Re: [CTRL] Drum Beats in the Night
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/30/99 12:28:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hiya Prudy, I would hope the real goal is too clean up the corruption in all parties and not to emphasize which "party" is put into power, but rather which "views" are supported (IMHO). Hilary Vain hope there Hilary. To Prudy Democrat = GOOD; Republican = BAD, except as she says "maybe" Clinton and Gore who are really Republican (maybe) and therefore BAD. Don't worry everyone who is aware of the back and forth Prudy and I have had over this issue, I have no intention of starting it again. Still love you Prudy! I just can't seem to understand you that's all! Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FWD: Snoops snooping in your biz
-Caveat Lector- Snoops and Spies By Timothy W. Maier The newest twist in the privacy wars: A federal regulatory proposal would bring Big Brother to your bank, where he'd be counting more than just your pennies the squirming beneath the microscope? SEE http://www.insightmag.com/articles/story1.html . . Across the nation -- in Maryland, for instance -- camera cops are replacing the squad car. In New York, witnesses are frisked like suspects as part of a crackdown on violent crime. In New Jersey, critics charge that "Megan's Law," which requires child sex offenders to register with the local cops, turns neighbors into spies and vigilantes. In Chicago, U.S. Customs agents routinely strip search and probe body cavities of black females traveling internationally if authorities believe they fit a certain profile. . . . . Not personal enough? Ask your local motor-vehicle administration if they are selling your driver's-license photograph and personal data. Do you live in South Carolina or Florida? The authorities there have sold some 17 million such photographs to a New Hampshire company, claiming to be building a national database to identify theft. On Capitol Hill, medical-identity cards and even universal identity cards top political agendas, while the Federal Communications Commission hopes to turn your wireless telephone into a personal tracking device so the government can keep tabs on you -- for your own good, of course. And personal computers built by Intel Corp. were to contain silicon chips allegedly to protect electronic transactions but, as it happens, also to let marketers track consumers' every move in cyberspace. . . . . So it should come as no surprise that your trusted banker has been enlisted by Big Brother to help him watch every financial move you make..SNIP DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Turtlings
-Caveat Lector- From Christian Science Monitor http://www.csmonitor.com/durable/1999/01/29/fp1s1-csm.shtml FRIDAY, JANUARY 29, 1999 Launching a 'homeland' defense To protect itself from terrorism, United States embarks on protection program reminiscent of early cold-war days. Jonathan S. Landay ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor WASHINGTON There is not yet an equivalent of "Bert the Turtle," a cartoon made by the US government in the 1950s to teach elementary school students about surviving a Soviet nuclear attack. But the United States is now engaged in the most intensive self-protection drive since the civil-defense programs of those early years of the atomic age. Instead of nationwide fallout-shelter construction and urban-evacuation plans, dozens of federal, state, and local agencies are pursuing a welter of programs - from developing a 50-state defense against limited missile strikes to shielding power grids from cybersabotage. The military is training police, fire, and medical personnel in cities to cope with biological and chemical terrorism, and there are proposals to inoculate these "first responders" against anthrax. A national stockpile of antidotes and antibiotics is being built. The military is mulling over creating a commander for national defense, and some officials see a not-too-distant day when all Americans may be offered shots against biological-warfare agents. Since 1995, President Clinton and the Republican-led Congress have boosted spending on these programs by billions of dollars. In the last two weeks, Mr. Clinton has announced he will add billions more for counterterrorism and national missile defense (NMD) in the fiscal 2000 budget he sends next month to Congress. Lawmakers are expected to embrace his plans, and perhaps inject more money than he seeks. These efforts have come to be known as "homeland defense." It is, asserts Deputy Defense Secretary John Hamre, "the defense mission of the next century." Yet at a time when the US is enjoying global military supremacy and its longest stretch of peacetime economic growth, the preoccupation with self-defense is raising a host of concerns. Advocates say it is precisely because of its status as the world's sole superpower that the US is facing new "asymmetric" threats. Unable to match conventional US military capabilities, rival nations and terrorists are looking to harness the massive killing potential of chemical and biological weapons, the recipes and components of which are widely available, they say. Potential foes are also bent on disrupting communications and computer systems critical to US defenses, financial systems, and utility sectors. And "rogue" states like North Korea and Iran are developing missiles that might reach the US mainland, advocates of homeland defense warn. Clinton faces a delicate balancing act in selling these arguments to a complacent public. "I have tried as hard as I can to create the right frame of mind in America for dealing with this," he said Jan. 22 when unveiling plans for dealing with terrorism and cybersabotage. "This is not a cause for panic. It is a cause for serious, deliberate, disciplined, long-term concern." One major question is the extent of the threats facing the US, which saw its first international terrorist strike in 1993 against New York's World Trade Center and hasn't been hit by another nation since Japan sent bomb-bearing balloons across the Pacific. There is a major disagreement on the need for a limited NMD system. Republicans and many experts are demanding deployment, citing a growing threat of long-range missile attacks by rogue states. But others dispute such forecasts, question the technical feasibility of such a system, and warn that its construction could ignite a new nuclear-arms race with Russia and China. "Because of the likely response of the nuclear powers, we end up losing more than we gain," says Carl Conetta of the the Cambridge, Mass.-based Commonwealth Institute's Project on Defense Alternatives. Clinton is taking a politically cautious middle path. He is proposing to boost NMD spending by $6.6 billion to $10.5 billion but delay possible deployment until 2005, two years later than planned, to allow more time for resolving technical problems. There is greater agreement on the need to improve federal, state, and local abilities to detect chemical or biological terrorism and cope with the aftermath. Yet the explosion in programs has raised concerns about coordination and waste. Clinton last year created a new National Security Council post to oversee the efforts, and some officials want the military to create a commander for homeland defense. But the idea dismays some senior officers, who want to focus on war-fighting. Another issue is whether the government, in striving to protect Americans, limits freedoms. Clinton conceded this concern in his Jan. 22 speech, saying "it is essential that we do not undermine
[CTRL] Iraqiana: 01-30: Opposition
-Caveat Lector- From Fed of am Scientists http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/crs-iraq-op.htm CRS Report Iraq's Opposition Movements Kenneth Katzman, Specialist in Middle Eastern Affairs, Foreign Affairs and National Defense Division March 26, 1998 Summary Many in Congress believe that the only way to blunt the term threat from Iraq is to remove Saddam from power, but the Administration is skeptical of new proposals to rebuild the opposition movement. The Iraqi opposition has been generally ineffective in shaking Saddam Husayn's grip on power, in part because differences within and between different dissident groups and with the regional backers of these groups. The conference report on the State Department authorization for FY1998-99, as well as the Senate version of S.1768, a supplemental appropriation, includes U.S. funds for opposition activities. This report will be updated to reflect legislative and other developments. Introduction1 During the latest crisis over access to suspected weapons production sites in Iraq, a growing number of foreign policy experts and Members of Congress have called for a long term U.S. effort to overthrow Iraq's President Saddam Husayn. These critics of current policy maintain that confrontations between Iraq and the United States and United Nations will flare repeatedly, and Iraq will pose a constant threat to its neighbors and the international community, as long as Saddam remains in power. Some Members, including Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, Senator John McCain, and others, have said the Administration should look beyond the immediate crisis and consider steps including: recognizing a coalition of opposition groups as the legitimate government of Iraq; releasing Iraqi frozen assets to those groups; granting export licenses for the purchase of arms by those groups; lifting sanctions for those portions of Iraq controlled by the opposition; establishing an opposition Radio Free Iraq; extending no fly zones to cover the entire country; and barring Iraq from moving armor in all or parts of Iraq. The Administration has said it would continue to have ties to the opposition and look for ways to support it more effectively but that some of the above ideas are impractical. (For further information on Iraq, see Issue Brief 92117, Iraqi Compliance With Cease-f re Agreements; and Issue Brief 94049, Iraq-U.S. Confrontations. ) Postwar Attempts to Oust Saddam Both the Bush and the Clinton Administrations previously pursued unsuccessful efforts to topple Saddam Husayn. Many of the past difficulties are relevant to the current debate on whether or how to oust the Iraqi President. Prior to Desert Storm, which began January 17, 1991, President Bush called on the Iraqi people to overthrow Saddam. Opposition Shiite Muslims in southern Iraq and Kurdish factions in northern Iraq, heartened by the U.S. call (and probably anticipating U.S. support) launched all-out rebellions against Saddam and his Sunni Muslim-dominated regime2 within days of the end of the Gulf war (February 28, l991). The rebellion in southern Iraq spread northward and reached the suburbs of Baghdad, but Republican Guard forces gained the upper hand against the rebels by mid-March 1991, and the uprising there petered out. (Saddam had largely kept the Republican Guard out of the fighting in Desert Storm for the purpose of preserving his hold on power after the war.) The Kurds in the north, benefitting from a U.S.-led no fly zone established in April 1991, were able to carve out an autonomous enclave in northern Iraq, free of Iraqi troops and governmental presence. However, Iraq is an Arab state that would not accept Kurdish independence or leadership, and the 4 million Kurds in northern Iraq did not represent a major threat to Saddam's rule. According to press reports, in May 1991, about two months after the failure of the Shiite and Kurdish uprisings, President Bush notified Congress of an intelligence finding justifying new U.S. efforts to topple Saddam Husayn. Press accounts indicate that about $15 - $20 million were allocated to efforts to cultivate ties to military and security officials around the Iraqi leader in the hopes of fomenting a coup d'etat.3 The published accounts suggest that some funds might have gone to opposition Shiite, Kurdish, and other exiled opponents of Saddam, but that Bush Administration officials reportedly focused on promoting a narrowly-based military takeover. These officials reportedly believed that a military coup offered the best hope of bringing to power a more favorable regime while preserving Iraq's integrity. It was feared that Shiite and Kurdish groups, if they succeeded in ousting Saddam, would fragment the country into warring ethnic and tribal groups, and open Iraq to political and military influence from neighboring Iran, Turkey, and Syria. Saudi Arabia, in particular, was said to fear that
[CTRL] Fw: PI says Landow hired him re: Clinton victim Willey
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: FightBack2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 9:25 PM Subject: PI says Landow hired him re: Clinton victim Willey Private Investigator Says Landow Employed Him in Willey Matter Washinton Post Saturday, January 30, 1999; Page A10 By Susan Schmidt Democratic Party fund-raiser Nathan Landow hired a private investigator for a project involving Kathleen E. Willey, the former White House volunteer who has testified that President Clinton groped her, the private eye said yesterday. Independent counsel Kenneth W. Starr has been investigating Willey's claims that Landow and others tried to influence or intimidate her to chill her testimony about Clinton when she was a witness in the Paula Jones case. Jarrett Stern, a private investigator, told ABC News in an interview broadcast last night that he was hired for an unspecified project by Landow, a wealthy Maryland developer who has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for Clinton-Gore campaigns. Stern's lawyer, Edouard Bouquet of Bethesda, told the network his client felt uneasy about what he was asked to do and called Willey, using an alias, to warn her someone was out to do her harm. "I think that he perceived a situation where he was being asked to do something he wasn't comfortable with," Bouquet said of Stern. The lawyer declined to be more specific. Landow flatly denied he engaged any private investigator to look into Willey's life or background. "Absolutely not," Landow said. "There is no evidence, no allegation, no proof on me." Landow's lawyer, Joe Caldwell, said he could not comment on Stern's claims because of Starr's ongoing criminal investigation, but Caldwell added, "There is absolutely no issue here." Landow refused to testify before Starr's grand jury last summer, citing his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. He has denied any wrongdoing and said he invoked the right on the advice of lawyers when prosecutors refused to give him immunity in exchange for his testimony about his dealings with Willey. He has described her as a social friend he met through his daughter, who also worked as a White House volunteer. Stern declined to detail what he had been asked to do in connection with Willey, but he told ABC that he "wholeheartedly" believes that Willey was approached with a menacing message by a stranger jogging near her Richmond home two days before her Jones case testimony. Willey has said the man inquired about her children by name, about her missing cat and about whether she'd gotten the tires on her car repaired after they were mysteriously vandalized by someone who drove masses of nails into all four of them. "Don't you get the message?" she has said the man asked. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: The Secret Sex Addict Speech Dick Morris Offered Clinton-
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Gary Cruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 11:35 PM Subject: The Secret Sex Addict Speech Dick Morris Offered Clinton- The New York Observer 1/29/99 by Philip Weiss The Secret Sex Addict Speech Dick Morris Offered Clinton by Philip Weiss Like all addictions, impeachment has 12 steps toward emotional clarity. These were mine: 1. Is Hillary Depressed? Hillary Rodham Clinton is scheduled to speak to the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League on the 26th anniversary of Roe v. Wade. It is at the same time that the question-and-answer phase of the impeachment trial is to begin in the Senate, and I choose Hillary. The First Lady wears a gray suit and is obviously depressed. She may as well be speaking to a funeral. Her voice is a monotone. She does not move her body at all for more than 30 minutes, merely moves her head in a practiced manner from one side of the audience to another. Dip to the lectern to get a line of text. Look up left. Look right. Open eyes to make some sort of connection. Dip back to lectern. Her text is laced with bitterness about men. She speaks with anger of visiting pregnant girls who have been abandoned by the fathers, of the stories these young lied-to women told her about their men"with a straight face," she says cuttingly. If only boys and men would think about what they are doing before they had sex, Hillary says, then goes on to denounce the preoccupation with "sexual prowess" in the media and among sports figures. The speech seems somewhat castrating. The 2,000 people in the audience, mostly women, absorb the depth of her feeling. The applause is subdued. No one calls out for her to run for Senate. 2. Z-z-z-z-z-z-z. Later, as I enter the Senate periodical gallery, the guard at the door takes my elbow. "Do me a favor, wake that guy up." He points at a tall reporter in the second row. Not relishing the assignment, I say, "Is he asleep?" A second guard comes over to confer. "I dont think hes sleeping, I just saw his jaw move." I sit next to the reporter, who is in fact sound asleep, and pretend not to notice him as I watch the Presidents private lawyer, David Kendall, speak, soporifically, on the floor. The guard must come down and, squeezing in front of a row of people to get to us, rouse the man. The reporter denies that he was asleep. They argue and the guard retreats. The reporter spends the next half-hour trying to win the argument retroactively by maintaining his sleepy posture even as he mocks attentiveness. 3. Oedipus at the Senate. Rumpled, cerebral, white-haired Senator Carl Levin of Michigan reminds me of my father, and I get into an argument with him during a little press conference he gives outside the Senate floor. He says that the House managers have misrepresented Vernon Jordans motives for finding a job for Monica Lewinsky. He has uncovered a fact that contradicts one of their points. I break in. "Lets say youre right. They got this point wrong. Still, what is a reasonable person supposed to conclude, that this was routine? How often have you called the chairman of General Motors?" My Oedipal outburst frightens old Senator Levin. He raises his hand and becomes flustered, then goes on, ignoring me. Under his arm are stacks of photocopies of the critical documents. Pathetically, he hands them out to the reporters. It is simply obvious that Vernon Jordan was putting out supreme effort for Monica Lewinsky. Ronald Perelman testified that in Mr. Jordans 12 years on Revlon Inc.s board, he only called him once on behalf of a job candidate: a "terrific young girl," Monica Lewinsky. Mr. Jordans call to Mr. Perelman came immediately after a five-minute conversation with Ms. Lewinsky, who called him from the residence of her mothers then-fiancé in New York, at about the time that she was filing her false affidavit in the Paula Jones case. After talking to Ron Perelman, Vernon Jordan called Monica Lewinsky back to tell her he had made the call. The next day, when she got the job, she called him and spent seven minutes on the phone with him, celebrating her success, then an hour later he called her and they had a three-minute conversation in which he says he urged her to accept that $40,000 was good pay. It is one of the great wastes of this process: critical minds like Charles Schumers and Carl Levins turned by the Clinton defense into bales of hay. 4. Going Mad With Lindsey Graham. I walk out of the Capitol with Lindsey Graham, the Republican House manager. A small man from a rural district of South Carolina who wears Brooks Brothers ties, he is the Frank Capra figure in the drama, soulful, emotional, sincere. People swarm around him, even Democrats, to urge him on or to fence with him. Representative Graham has a pastoral air. He talks about "the sins you carry and the sins I carry." He offers moral
[CTRL] Fw: MOB TRIES TO KILL CIA PILOT - JAMES FILES MAY BE NEXT
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Bob Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 2:12 AM Subject: MOB TRIES TO KILL CIA PILOT - JAMES FILES MAY BE NEXT We received an unexpected call from CIA pilot TOSH PLUMLEE this evening. He informed me that he had sent me an email regarding what had just happened to him. He informed me that he had just been set up by a Federal Agent and that the Mob had sent a Miami Cuban hitman to kill him. Plumlee told me that he had lost a part of his thumb in a knife fight with the hitman. Plumlee said that they were trying to take him out over his knowledge of the missing CIA decoding devices known as EARLICON devices. Plumlee said these devices were flown by the 82nd Airbonre - 101st Division - into Honduras and that the equipment disappeared in Panama. Plumlee said that Pablo Escobar ended up with the equipment and was able to track the DEA in their efforts to bust Escobar in the 80s. Plumlee said this is the reason that Escobar was hunted down and killed. The complete text of Plumlee's UNEDITED e-mail can be seen at: http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/9747 Under the menu link "DOCUMENTS" Dr. Truth DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Starr--protective order
-Caveat Lector- from: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ap/washington/story.html?s=v/ap/1999012 9/pl/starr_steele_1.html Friday January 29 12:26 PM ET Some Starr Files To Be Kept Secret By PETE YOST Associated Press Writer ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) - A federal judge today ordered some material kept secret in a case stemming from Kenneth Starr's investigation of President Clinton after a prosecutor expressed concern that disclosure would ``tip off targets'' in the ongoing probe. U.S. District Judge Claude Hilton said lawyers for Julie Hiatt Steele, who is accused of obstruction and making a false statement in Starr's investigation, must not disseminate material they receive from Starr's office in preparing for trial. The material includes FBI interviews with witnesses. Ms. Steele was a witness in Starr's investigation of a suspected cover-up of an alleged unwanted sexual advance by Clinton on former White House volunteer Kathleen Willey. Steele lawyers Nancy Luque and Dan Marino said Starr's request for a court order to restrict use of the material was highly unusual. Eight news organizations including The Associated Press asked Hilton to deny Starr's request for a protective order that will keep the material off the public record. Records turned over to Ms. Steele's lawyers before the trial should not be used for ``fund-raising purposes, ... on the Geraldo show or on the Larry King show or to tip off targets of other pending investigations,'' prosecutor Jay Apperson argued. Hilton said Starr's prosecutors have an ``ongoing investigation'' and ``they are entitled'' to not have material divulged. He directed the prosecutors to identify what they consider to be sensitive information that must be kept confidential as it is turned over to Ms. Steele's lawyers. Hilton's order means that portions of court motions by Ms. Steele's lawyers which ordinarily would be filed on the public record before trial now will be filed in secret with the judge. Asked outside court what prosecutors are trying to keep confidential, Luque replied ``the truth.'' She declined to elaborate. The indictment accuses Ms. Steele of filing a false affidavit in Paula Jones' sexual harassment suit against Clinton, lying to two grand juries and attempting to influence the testimony of other witnesses. Ms. Steele in the affidavit denied that Mrs. Willey told her about the president's alleged sexual advance and asserted that Mrs. Willey asked Ms. Steele to lie to a Newsweek magazine reporter about it. Copyright © 1999 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Turtlings
-Caveat Lector- anyone read "Alas Babylon" by Pat Frank If we do not acknowledge how bad the chemicals are now, what would happen if we had a war? Water tablets would not clean the water supply. Food, animals might have springform. Crops, fungus. It could all be blamed on a war and we would have no choice but to see our rescuers as the ones that had the genetic codes that would allow us to eat cloned water, meat and crops. A monopoly - let's say a world monopoly! Wonder if they would copyright those DNA codes, since of course the original animals and plants would no longer be in existence for any one to get more. If they were able to get rid of the original plants like with Monsanto's Roundup Soybeans then they would not even have to worry that much. Now what war has been tried to be started - which President originally set that situation up, and does that particular ex-President have any children that might follow in his shoes? Could the Internet already - have nullified the first part of World War #3? Fundamentalism. Intresting word. Keeps some of us from really checking out the dinosaurs. Some Presidents have supported that idea by declaring them selves part of one or another religion. Some have tried to help the religions to go to the next evolution. My father and yours. "It is not up to thee to finish the task, but neither is it up to thee to exempt thyself from it." or You may not be able to replace them but can you learn enough to succeed them? Who would want us to not learn enough to succeed them or to know the task that is never ending. To think that everything is A-OK. Jefferson said something about "I can not replace him, I can only try to succeed him" By saying that he took all the sins away and leaving it at that - it implies that they do not have to continue his work. Think about what he really did. By some saying that he did it all it Makes Christians mental enuches to keep them from thinking about it - the resurrection - tag they are it. Remember the Holy Spirit. So some have gotten in and then publicly became pedophiles and have done other things - but they were religious leaders, what religion were they truly following? Laura AKA The Pied Piper DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Drum Beats in the Night
-Caveat Lector- You can choose to get all hot and bothered and fume or to do something constructive about it. It's a choice for all of us. -- ALL of our actions originate in our beliefs. Getting to the nitty gritty of the paradigms we all hold so dear is the way. NOTHING is going to change if we don't change the way we think. "It only takes a liberal twenty years to become a conservative without changing a single idea." - Robert Anton Wilson __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BROADDRICK STORY!
Your suppression will cause me to suppers all NBC TV and Cable channels on my Remote. ...the Truth shall set us Free... May God Bless You to see the error of your ways. Bard Baird of Downey, California I'm not anti-government!I'm anti-corrupt government!NEVER FORGET the Waco Massacre of April, 1993!Federal Government defined:a benefit/subsidy protection racket!Democracy=ChaosRepublic=Order
[CTRL] Fw: The Texas Atheist # 22
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 8:20 AM Subject: The Texas Atheist # 22 [ Subscribe or Remove to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]=== THE TEXAS ATHEIST January 31, 1999 # 22 Copyright © 1999 by Howard Thompson ==[ Pass it on and help the community grow ]= IN THIS ISSUE 1. Texas Events 2. News/Science Briefs O'Hairs, Ex-Cons and a Headless Body Atheist Invasion' T-Shirts for Comfort Visit Darwin's Birthday Houston Party Nurses Gotta Pray for Catholic Employer God Don't Know Much About Geometry Atheist Alliance Austin Convention Activities Correction: Atheists United Claims Biggest' Title Atheist Retirement Communities?? ACA newsletter Recommended Freethinkers Quiz Senator on Religious Freedom' Bill Court Upholds Legalized Religious Discrimination IRS Auctions O'Hair Possessions - Not Diaries American Atheists Chat Exclusive and Secret California Freethought Church' Forming 3. Groups Television 4. Letters "trashed the first few issues ... brought my atheism towards the forefront" "I am one of those get up in your face atheists.'" 5. Commentary: Successful Arlington Conference - TEXAS EVENTS HOUSTON - DARWIN DAY CELEBRATION: The Secular Humanists of Houston will have a Darwin Day Celebration' February 20th, 12:00 - 6:00 PM at the BORDER's Books Music, 9633A Westheimer, Houston, TX 77063. See article for more info. Contact Keith Irish [EMAIL PROTECTED]. ATHEIST INVASION' OF COMFORT, TEXAS: Freethinker shopping expedition, visit to Freethinker Cenotaph True to the Union' Monument. Date to be announced, see article for more details. Contact Julie Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] AUSTIN - ATHEIST ALLIANCE 1999 NATIONAL CONVENTION: April 2-4. Sponsored by the Atheist Community of Austin. Contact: Don Rhoades [EMAIL PROTECTED] or Mary Sue Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]. [See longer description below.] SAN ANTONIO - FREEDOM FROM RELIGION FOUNDATION 1999 CONVENTION: Contact: Catherine Fahringer (210) 824-5061, FAX: (210) 820-3239. - NEWS/SCIENCE BRIEFS [Send items of interest to [EMAIL PROTECTED]] O'HAIRS, EX-CONS AND A HEADLESS BODY The January 31st edition of the San Antonio News-Express has three articles by John MacCormack about the O'Hairs' disappearance. The main article is at: http://www.expressnews.com/pantheon/news-bus/metro/101arp1.shtml Two or three ex-convicts were possibly acting with or against the O'Hairs during September 1995 in San Antonio. The headless, handless body of wannabe con man Danny Fry has now been identified. Fry's body was found in Dallas county October 2nd, 1995, three days after the Jon Murray-O'Hair's last known phone call. This was also two days after Fry's last phone call from the Austin apartment of ex-con David Waters. Convicted murderer Waters was the O'Hair's former office manager who pleaded guilty to stealing $54,000, and who purchased a Cadillac with $13,000 cash in San Antonio during September 1995. A third ex-con, from the same Illinois prison as Waters, was tentatively identified by the San Antonio buyer of Jon Murray's Mercedes as the person claiming to be Murray who sold him the car. Waters is apparently still living in his Austin apartment and denies knowledge of some events and any wrong-doing. At this point, the story's details can depict the O'Hairs as victims or accomplices of well, something. There has been no mention of what may have been more than $ 8 million squirreled away by Madalyn from atheist donations over the years, lest we forget the IRS criminal investigation into money laundering. Clearly, the creativity of rumors and speculations will have to improve to compete with reality. 'ATHEIST INVASION' T-SHIRTS FOR COMFORT VISIT [From Julie Fisher] It won't be long until area atheists will be invading' Comfort as foretold by local Episcopal prophet Roy Perkins. Perkins led a petition drive against a Monument to Atheism' in Comfort, located about 50 miles west of San Antonio on IH 10. Petitioners characterized the now canceled Freethought Celebration 1998' dedication of the Freethinker Cenotaph in the town's park as an atheist invasion'. D-Day for the invasion' to be announce later. The invasion' will include antiquing, shopping, dining and a visit to the still bare Freethinker Cenotaph. Come as part of the invasion force' wearing Atheist Invasion' T-shirts or as a Friend of Atheists (FOA) in plain clothes. Contact Julie Fisher of the Hill Country Freethinkers [EMAIL PROTECTED] to order your Atheist Invasion' T-shirt. DARWIN'S BIRTHDAY HOUSTON PARTY' Charles Darwin was born on February 12, 1809. The Secular Humanists of Houston will have a Darwin Day Celebration' February 20th, 12:00 - 6:00 PM at the BORDER's Books Music (9633A Westheimer,
[CTRL] Fwd: A bill has been introduced to Repeal Term limitations for the President
A HREF="http://rs9.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query"A President For Life Received Data/A A bill has just been introduced in the House which will repeal the 22nd amendment there by allowing the President to serve as many terms as he can get elected. In other words, we may end up with a President/dictator for life. I have no further information on this. If anyone else does, please email me. I consider this an extremely troubling and dangerous development. I believe we need to follow up on this as soon as possible. I have enclosed the email address to the House Judiciary committe. We need to find out what the status of this bill is. the bill is: H.J. Res 17 Ru [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.house.gov/judiciary/"Welcome to the Judiciary Committee Home Page!/A The link at the top of the page will open up to the following: GPO's PDF version of this billReferences to this bill in the Congressional RecordLink to the Bill Summary Status file.Full Display - 1,508 bytes.[Help] Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual... (Introduced in the House) HJ 17 IH 106th CONGRESS 1st Session H. J. RES. 17 Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES January 6, 1999 Mr. SERRANO (for himself and Mr. SHAYS) introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary JOINT RESOLUTION Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President. Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three- fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification: `Article-- `The twenty-second article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.'.
[CTRL] OEN 1/31/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Impeached POTUS Starr Is Sure He Has Constitutional Authority to Indict Clinton in Office by Don Van Natta Jr. WASHINGTON -- The independent counsel, Kenneth W. Starr, has concluded that he has the constitutional authority to seek a grand jury indictment of President Clinton before he leaves the White House in January 2001, several associates of Starr said this week. While the President's legal team has fought in the Senate chamber for the President's political survival, Starr and his prosecutors have actively considered whether to ask a Federal grand jury here to indict Clinton before his term expires, said Starr's associates, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. But these associates emphasized that Starr had not decided whether, or when, to ask the grand jury to charge Clinton with perjury and obstruction of justice in the Monica S. Lewinsky matter. "He is persuaded by precedent and logic that a sitting President can be indicted," said an associate who speaks frequently with Starr. "But he has given no hint about whether he would do it, either now or sometime down the road." Before taking such unprecedented action, Starr would be guided by a number of factors, including the impact that an indictment of the President would have on the nation and the Government, said the associates and others with whom Starr has discussed the matter. The associates say that Starr agrees with the conclusion of his office's two constitutional law scholars, who say that the Constitution and legal precedent provide a prosecutor with the authority to seek the indictment, trial and conviction of a sitting President. The scholars concluded that the 1997 Supreme Court decision allowing the Paula Jones sexual misconduct lawsuit to proceed while the Clinton was in office greatly increased the chances that an indictment of the President would survive a constitutional challenge by his lawyers, the associates said. Although most constitutional scholars say that a sitting President can be indicted, the majority of them who have written or spoken on the subject believe that a trial would have to wait until the President left office. Lawyers in Starr's office have been poring over the record of the debates within the office of Leon Jaworski, the Watergate special prosecutor, over whether to indict President Richard M. Nixon, both before and after his resignation, the associates said. To do that, Starr's lawyers scoured autobiographies, including Jaworski's, and obtained copies of prosecution memorandums in the National Archives written by the Watergate prosecutors, the associates said. These discussions in Starr's office occur at a highly sensitive time. Several Senate votes on procedural issues this week made it all but certain that there was not the two-thirds majority, 67 votes, required to convict Clinton on the two articles of impeachment and remove him from office. Starr and his prosecutors have had no communications with the House managers or the White House about the possibility of including Clinton's future criminal jeopardy in negotiations over a censure, the associates said. Charles G. Bakaly 3d, the spokesman for Starr, declined to discuss the matter. "We will not discuss the plans of this office or the plans of the grand jury in any way, shape or form," he said. Clinton Lawyers Cite Possible Indictment As recently as this week, the President's lawyers had argued in the Senate trial that they were deeply concerned that the Office of Independent Counsel would seek the indictment of Clinton after his term expired on Jan. 20, 2001. David E. Kendall, one of the President's personal lawyers, has demanded that House managers provide access to about 55,000 pages of unreleased documents compiled by Starr that lawyers for Clinton said he would need to defend himself against a criminal indictment. Kendall also threatened to seek testimony from witnesses in the Senate trial to explore what he said was improper collusion between Ms. Jones's lawyers and Starr's prosecutors in late 1997. Bakaly has denied that there was collusion between his office and Ms. Jones's lawyers. Starr's associates said that the independent counsel had several options in the coming weeks or months. It is possible that he could choose not to seek an indictment of Clinton, they said. Or he could decide to seek the indictment after Clinton's term expires. Another option that has been discussed is to seek an indictment in the next few months, but asking a judge to keep it under seal, meaning that it would remain a secret for some time. If Starr chose to postpone a trial of the President until after he left office, a sealed indictment would keep the charges secret and spare Clinton the indignity of trying to lead the country while under the cloud of a public indictment. A fourth option would be to indict him
Re: [CTRL] Free Speech Is Whatever the Government Allows
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/26/99 1:43:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But when our interests happen to coincide with the interests of one of these industries, it would be stupid to dump a rare opportunity. If it suits the Pharmaceutical industry to keep down competition by making someone else adhere to rigorous scientific standards for their claims, WE BENEFIT. To have an economic libertarian blow that too because he doesn't like govt. regulation is yet another indication of the twisted mentation processes of defective libertarian ideology. EVERYTHING IS OK IF IT MAKES MONEY. No, I don't defend the FDA or their sponsors. I'm just protecting MY interests from the lunacy of free market Libertarians, who, if they were ever taken more seriously, would be as hazardous to our health as the chemical, medical, and food industries combined. Joshua2 Ha Ha. Here we go. P.A.N.G. (People Are No Good) J2? So you believe that "The People" are too stupid to make their own choices? I don't want "The Government" protecting me from my own stupidity. What a joke. The F.D.A. (like all gov't agencies that "regulate") is really a protection racket for multi national chemical corporations. I thought J2 was smarter then that. Facism exists in order to protect "The People" from "The People". flw DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] live
-Caveat Lector- The Important Things Life Teaches You... ~ 1 ~ Most Important Question During my second month of nursing school, our professor gave us a pop = quiz. I was a conscientious student and had breezed through the questions, until I read the last one: "What is the first name of the woman who cleans the school?" Surely this was some kind of joke. I had seen the cleaning woman several times. She was tall, dark-haired and in her 50s, but how would I = know her name? I handed in my paper, leaving the last question blank. Before class ended, one student asked if the last question would count = toward our quiz grade. "Absolutely," said the professor. "In your careers you = will meet many people. All are significant. They deserve your attention and = care, even if all you do is smile and say 'hello'. "I've never forgotten that lesson. I also learned her name was Dorothy. ~ 2 ~ Pickup in the Rain One night, at 11:30 PM, an older African American woman was standing on = the side of an Alabama highway trying to endure a lashing rain storm. Her car = had broken down and she desperately needed a ride. Soaking wet, she decided = to flag down the next car. A young white man stopped to help her - generally unheard of in those conflict-filled 1960s. The man took her to safety, helped her get assistance and put her into a = taxi cab. She seemed to be in a big hurry! She wrote down his address, = thanked him and drove away. Seven days went by and a knock came on the man's = door. To his surprise, a giant console color TV was delivered to his home. A = special note was attached. It read: "Thank you so much for assisting me on the highway the other night. The rain drenched not only my clothes but my spirits. Then you came along. Because of you, I was able to make it to my dying husband's bedside just before he passed away. God bless you for helping me and unselfishly = serving others. Sincerely, Mrs. Nat King Cole" ~ 3 ~ Always remember those who serve In the days when an ice cream sundae cost much less, a 10 year old boy = entered a hotel coffee shop and sat at a table. A waitress put a glass of water in front of him. "How much is an ice cream sundae?" "Fifty cents," replied = the waitress. The little boy pulled his hand out of his pocket and studied a number of coins in it. "How much is a dish of plain ice cream?" he = inquired. Some people were now waiting for a table and the waitress was a bit = impatient. "Thirty-five cents," she said brusquely. The little boy again counted the coins. "I'll have the plain ice cream," he said. The waitress brought the = ice cream, put the bill on the table and walked away. The boy finished the ice cream, paid the cashier and departed. When the waitress came back, she began wiping down the table and then swallowed hard at what she saw. There, placed neatly beside the empty = dish, were two nickels and five pennies - her tip. ~ 4 ~ The Obstacle in Our Path In ancient times, a king had a boulder placed on a roadway. Then he hid himself and watched to see if anyone would remove the huge rock. Some of the king's wealthiest merchants and courtiers came by and simply walked around it. Many loudly blamed the king for not keeping the roads = clear, but none did anything about getting the big stone out of the way. Then a peasant came along carrying a load of vegetables. On approaching = the boulder, the peasant laid down his burden and tried to move the stone to = the side of the road. After much pushing and straining, he finally succeeded. = As the peasant picked up his load of vegetables, he noticed a purse lying in = the road where the boulder had been. The purse contained many gold coins and a note from the king indicating that the gold was for the person who removed = the boulder from the roadway. The peasant learned what many others never understand. Every obstacle presents an opportunity to improve one's condition. ~ 5 ~ Giving Blood Many years ago, when I worked as a volunteer at Stanford Hospital, I got = to know a little girl named Liz who was suffering from a rare and serious disease. Her only chance of recovery appeared to be a blood transfusion = from her 5-year old brother, who had miraculously survived the same disease and = had developed the antibodies needed to combat the illness. The doctor = explained the situation to her little brother, and asked the boy if he would be = willing to give his blood to his sister. I saw him hesitate for only a moment = before taking a deep breath and saying, "Yes, I'll do it if it will save Liz." = =20 As the transfusion progressed, he lay in bed next to his sister and = smiled, as we all did, seeing the color returning to her cheeks. Then his face grew = pale and his smile faded. He looked up at the doctor and asked with a trembling voice, "Will I start to die right away?" Being young, the boy had misunderstood the doctor; he thought he was going = to have to give his sister all of
Re: [CTRL] Fascism On The Move Toward New Order
-Caveat Lector- But none of this is real democracy. The writer said so himself earlier.It's Fascism diguised as democracy. Fascism is Capitalism plus state power. Joshua2 I don't think so. Fascism = Communism = Statism. There is no effective difference between Fascism, Communism. They are both Statism. The Communists replaced the Owner Elite with the Party Elite. The Fascists left the Owner Elite but made them subservient to The Party. Hitler's plan was for The Party to then replace the Owner Elite with the Party Elite. WWII intervened. In the US we have the Owner Elite allied with the Polito Paths. One supplies money, the other supplies them services. Smiley Face Fascism/ Corporate Socialism. Suits and ties rather then Brownshirts or Red Banners. People broken by the IRS rather then the Gestapo. Why bother to put them in camps, just take their money, businesses or professions. They will then become Nonpersons. Sad shells that put the fear of God (The Govt?) in others who have politically incorrect thoughts. The really obstreperous ones? Gas and burn them. They are only "cultists." Show it live on CNN. The Attorney General will proudly take credit for the massacre and "the media" will applaud her. God Bless America! flw DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NBC panics.
-Caveat Lector- With NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Friday January 29, 9:53 AM Broaddrick Blockbuster Set to Run Friday -- Before NBC Panicked Inside Cover has learned that Juanita Broaddrick, who gave an exclusive bombshell interview to NBC's Lisa Myers a week ago Wednesday, was told her story would be broadcast this Friday on the network's "Dateline NBC" newsmagazine. But at last word, network executives have come down with a bad case of cold feet. A source who was present the entire time NBC grilled Broaddrick has revealed exclusively to Inside Cover that Myers' team put the Clinton accuser and her family through the wringer. NBC's private investigators combed through her backround to make sure the alleged assault victim had no hidden skeletons that might undermine her believability. Their verdict: She's "squeaky clean". NBC cameras rolled for eight hours, recording interviews with both Broaddrick and her husband at the family's Arkansas home. "Dateline" came away with some five hours of usable footage. "Dateline" also interviewed nurse Norma Rogers, a key corroborative witness who treated Broaddrick's bruises after her alleged attack by then-Arkansas Attorney General Bill Clinton. Rogers would not appear for any on camera close-ups out of concern for her young children's privacy, telling her story instead on audiotape. Broaddrick is said to be exhausted and deeply frustrated that NBC, after chasing her story for nine months, had persuaded her to go public only to lose their own nerve at the eleventh hour. She got the first hint of trouble on Tuesday, when Myers called her to warn that NBC brass were panicking. "The good news is, you're credible. The bad news is, you're very, very credible," Myers told Broaddrick, according to our insider. Our source said Broaddrick had decided the "Dateline" interview would be a one shot deal, and that she had hoped to retreat into anonymity after NBC made her story public. Inside Cover has confirmed reports of NBC's skittishness and learned that other networks have approached Ms. Broaddrick. She is said to be weighing a change of venue should NBC execs go into the tank. Another source close to the story told Inside Cover, "If 'Dateline' doesn't run Broaddrick Friday night, you'll know NBC has either postponed it or cancelled it." Inside Cover will be monitoring "Dateline" tonight to see if NBC has regained their nerve. [Read NewsMax.com's earlier reports on Jane Doe #5] Subject: Corporate news sucks! Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 00:14:45 -0800 From: nurev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Nurev Independent Research To the Suits at NBC and especially Brokaw: RE: Squelching the Juanita Broderick interview. You have lost all credibility for your news division. Corporate news departments are incapable of being a watchdog for the people. They are a lapdog for the government of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich. I'm glad you fucked up. Now all the world will see what a worthless bunch of shits you are. Joshua2 That J2 is a very smart man. (Often). flw DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Colby, the FLIR tape, and a new Waco documentary (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:38:47 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Colby, the FLIR tape, and a new Waco documentary (fwd) *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send "Subscribe Future-Cities" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex *** -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:54:44 -0800 From: Jon Roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Colby, the FLIR tape, and a new Waco documentary In response to a message I forwarded from Ian Goddard, in which he cited an article from _American Freedom_ magazine, Vol. 1, No. 7, October, 1996, consisting of a report by Gordon Novel of an interview with former CIA Director William Colby, and in which Goddard recalls Novel to have claimed to have received the FLIR footage that appeared in the Academy Award nominated documentary _Waco: the Rules of Engagement_ from Colby, who is also supposed to have said that President Clinton was "behind" the Oklahoma City bombing on April 19, 1995, I received an email message from Michael McNulty, a producer of the Waco documentary, asking me to call him to get some corrections on that initial report. I called him January 29, 1999. The following is extracted from my telephone conversation with McNulty: In late 1993 the Davidian defense team received a copy of the FLIR footage from the FBI through discovery, but they were unable to play it in their machines. McNulty says he got the tape several months later, about April, 1994, after the Davidians had been convicted and while they were awaiting sentencing. The defense team had been unable to play the tape because it was in a super VHS format that was unlabeled. McNulty says the lack of a label was at least unprofessional, and at worst an attempt at obfuscation. McNulty provided a lengthy analysis of the tape in June, 1994, and returned the tape, after making a dub of it with the permission of the defense team, onto a digital D2 format. The defense team sent McNulty's analysis to the U.S. prosecutor, although McNulty's analysis did not identify the flashes as automatic firearms fire. It was about 18 months after McNulty got the tape that former CIA Director William Colby contacted Gordon Novel, who said that Colby sent two men to show Novel a high-quality, probably 1st-generation copy, of the FLIR footage, who pointed out to Novel what to look for on the tape and where to find it. However, they did not leave a copy of the tape with Novel at that time. What they pointed out were the signatures of automatic gunfire by assaulting troops directed at the only exits of the buildings, which the Davidians would have had to use to escape the fire. At that point McNulty had the only copy of the tape, a 3rd-generation digital D2 copy, other than the one retained by the Davidian defense lawyer he had obtained it from, and he refused to release it to anyone. He had already become friends with Gordon Novel, who had begun working as an investigator for the firm of Ramsey Clark, who had become one of several law firms representing the Davidians in their civil case. Novel told McNulty what Colby's men had told him, and McNulty then took his tape and the information delivered from Colby through Novel and sought an expert in interpreting FLIR footage who was not associated with the government in a way that the expert would not have wanted to work with McNulty. He found one in Dr. Edward Allard, who appears in the documentary with his analysis. In the meantime, Novel got himself in trouble and was put in jail in Ohio, and was interviewed by Don Weideman for a series of articles. It was during these interviews that Novel revealed he had a copy, probably a 3rd- or 4th-generation copy, of the FLIR footage. McNulty's 3rd-generation copy is the FLIR footage that was used in the documentary. Another dub was made of the 2nd-generation copy the defense attorney had, and it was that copy which was later passed on to the firm of Caddell and Chapman, and from them to the firm of former Attorney General Ramsey Clark. Novel got his 3rd- or 4th-generation copy from Jim Brannen, one of the civil litigation attorneys. Impatient with the delay in getting the footage to the public through the documentary, Novel took his 3rd- or 4th-generation copy of the FLIR footage to CBS Sixty Minutes, who sought their own expert analyst in the firm Infraspections, and that analyst confirmed Allard's analysis of the flashes as automatic weapons fire. Later, CBS Sixty Minutes personnel went to members of Congress on the committee investigating the incident, and misrepresented the results of their expert's analysis to those congressmen, saying the analyst found no sign of gunfire. They did not provide a copy of the tape or the analysis of their expert to those congressmen, who obtained the short segments they
Re: [CTRL] SNET: Who should control USA Gov't?
-Caveat Lector- Agent Polecat: I see you are still playing that weak agent provocateur role. If I were you I wouldn't give up my day job. I find it quite illuminating that you run that ALLIGATOR MOUTH about THIS country so much in all of your boring posts -- while your HUMMINGBIRD ASS is parked over there in some OTHER country. What's wrong with that picture? Who is pulling YOUR chain? Why don't YOU express YOUR displeasure with this government TO the government entities personally, instead of trying to manipulate/agitate everyone else to do it? Here are some links for your complaining convenience: http://www.thecodex.com/ My 2 cents' worth. ME On Sunday, January 31, 1999 1:46 PM, Franklin Wayne Poley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: - SNETNEWS Mailing List On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, J FROST wrote: Subject: 021.001 "PATRIOTS" or FASCIST AGENTS? Should the American people be in control of their own government? I don't think the American people have the WILL to control their own government so I suggest you turn it over to us in BC with our new "Cyberdemocracy". If yo'all insist on having someone else tell you how to think we'll do it for you. FWP. - Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: IS BILL CLINTON A RAPIST???? (new evidence) (u)
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Walt Horning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.politics,dc.politics,alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater,alt.fan.rush- limbaugh,alt.impeach.clinton,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.gossip,alt.fe minism Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 8:57 AM Subject: IS BILL CLINTON A RAPIST (new evidence) (u) Here are some details of the allegations of sexual assault and rape by Bill Clinton of nine women. Sources: NBC, ABC, Wash Post, AP, FreeRepublic, Drudge, "Partners in Power" (Roger Morris) (1) JULIA BROADDRICK -- RAPE -- NBC national news on Saturday, March 28, 1998: "The explosive new allegation tonight is that President Clinton sexually assaulted a woman 20 years ago in Arkansas. It involves an alleged encounter at this Little Rock hotel in the late 1970s, between then Attorney General Bill Clinton and campaign worker, Juanita Broaddrick. In court documents today, Jones' lawyers claim Clinton quote 'forcibly raped and sexually assaulted' Broaddrick, then quote "bribed and intimidated her" to remain silent. Sources say that Broaddrick, now 54, recently denied under oath that such an assault occurred. But Jones' lawyers claim she had told their investigator she had suffered a quote 'horrible thing' at the hand of Clinton, and did not want to relive it. And NBC NEWS has talked to FOUR people from Arkansas who say Broaddrick told them of such an assault years ago. Today's charge is largely based on a letter from this man, Philip Yoakum, a friend and business associate of the alleged victim. In a letter to Broaddrick, written in 1992, Yoakum, a Republican writes, I was particularly distraught when you told me of your brutal rape by Bill Clinton, how he bit your lip until you gave into his forcing sex upon you.' In an interview with NBC NEWS, Yoakum said Broaddrick told him that Clinton invited himself to her hotel room, allegedly to discuss her nursing home business. Reporter: She told you in 1981 that Bill Clinton assaulted her? Mr. PHILLIP YOAKUM (Arkansas Businessman): Mm-hm. Yes, 1981 is when she told me. Reporter: Did you believe her at the time? Mr. YOAKUM: I believed her. MYERS: Yoakum admits he is no fan of the president and that he unsuccessfully tried to get Broaddrick to tell her story when Clinton first ran for president. Mr. YOAKUM: And she says, Who would believe me, little old Juanita from Van Buren?' MYERS: There was another woman at that hotel that day, a nurse and friend of Broaddrick who says she iced her friend's face after the assault. In a telephone interview with NBC News, this woman, who admits she dislikes Clinton, said Broaddrick was distraught, her lips were swollen at least double in size. She told me they had intercourse against her will.' Again a White House spokesman dismissed the charge as outrageous, false, and the work of the president's long-time political opponents.' The White House also noted that Broaddrick herself already denied the allegation under oath. Tonight, Broaddrick had no comment. (ABC, AP, Drudge and Wash Post some or all of the above.) After Broaddrick reported this did not happen in an avidavit in the Jones case, Drudge reported on Dec 27, 1998 that Ken Starr gave her full immunity from prosecution for filing the false avidavit, at which time she told Ken Starr about the incident, and broke down in tears over it. So, there is Broaddrick's own testimony, plus that of FOUR witnesses, one of whom personally put the ice pack on her swollen lip. http://www.ishius.com/broaddri.htm click on ABC report. NBC pulled their hyperlink. http://www.dallasnews.com/clintoncrisis/crisis232.htm (Broaddrick is mentioned only) http://www.dallasnews.com/clintoncrisis/crisis157.htm (some details) http://reports.guardian.co.uk/papers/19980401-02.html (little details) FLASH: NBC news crew filmed Broaddrick at her home, just a week or so agon and its reported that she feared what would happen, now that she reported to NBC the truth about the rape. --- (2) JANE DONE #?-- RAPE -- "A young woman lawyer in Little Rock claimed that she was accosted by Clinton while he was attorney general and that when she recoiled he forced himself on her, biting and bruising her. Deeply affected by the assault, the woman decided to keep it all quiet for the sake of her own hard won career and that of her husband. When the husband later saw Clinton at the 1980 Democratic Convention, he delivered a warning. If you ever approach her,' he told the governor, 'I'll kill you.' Not even seeing fit to deny the incident, Bill Clinton sheepishly apologized and duly promised never to bother her again." [page 238, "Partners in Power (Roger Morris)] --- (3) KATHLEEN WILLEY -- SEXUAL ASSAULT -- There were two witnesses to what happened to Willey: Linda Tripp and a Ms Steele. Ms Steele reported the story to Newsweek per Willey's request. Ms Steele claimed later that Willey said she was lying but asked her to tell
Re: [CTRL] SNET: Who should control USA Gov't?
-Caveat Lector- Weak? You went for it bung hole. FWP. (Agent Polecat). On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Michael Estes wrote: - SNETNEWS Mailing List Agent Polecat: I see you are still playing that weak agent provocateur role. If I were you I wouldn't give up my day job. I find it quite illuminating that you run that ALLIGATOR MOUTH about THIS country so much in all of your boring posts -- while your HUMMINGBIRD ASS is parked over there in some OTHER country. What's wrong with that picture? Who is pulling YOUR chain? Why don't YOU express YOUR displeasure with this government TO the government entities personally, instead of trying to manipulate/agitate everyone else to do it? Here are some links for your complaining convenience: http://www.thecodex.com/ My 2 cents' worth. ME On Sunday, January 31, 1999 1:46 PM, Franklin Wayne Poley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: - SNETNEWS Mailing List On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, J FROST wrote: Subject: 021.001 "PATRIOTS" or FASCIST AGENTS? Should the American people be in control of their own government? I don't think the American people have the WILL to control their own government so I suggest you turn it over to us in BC with our new "Cyberdemocracy". If yo'all insist on having someone else tell you how to think we'll do it for you. FWP. - Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: Michael Estes [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send "Subscribe Future-Cities" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.jiwalu.demon.co.uk/ Updated 30-01-99 Freemasonry is.. Corruption is. Injustice is. Freemasonry. I, Maurice Kellett, of, 16A The Lyons, Hetton-le-Hole, Tyne and Wear, DH5 0HT, England, hereby declare that the statements contained in the documentation indexed below are true to the best of my knowledge and belief. Christopher the Whitehall Masonic Civil Servant told the late Stephen Knight, author of " The Brotherhood", "Get your man involved in something legal - it need not be serious - and then you have him". The full account of Stephen's meeting with Christopher is included in chapter sixteen of his book. I stepped into the trap of believing that British justice could not be as corrupt as some had alleged. How wrong I was. Masonic injustice has been instrumental in the destruction of my thirty year marriage. My wife and family were the best things in my life. I am now determined that those who have assisted this situation will be called to account for their actions. I understand that moves are now in progress to declare me bankrupt because I have not paid the £16,000 Order of costs in the Civil litigation. That Order was made by the former Recorder Mr. Fryer-Spedding. In the below index listing, Affidavits 1 and 2 detail some of his acts. Am I to abide by the judgment and Order for costs when a man can stoop this low to ruin a man? Am I not only to be subject of Masonic injustice, but to concede an Order that I must pay for it? Justice is the basic foundation of any democracy. Without it democracy is called into question. Those in high places of authority who continue to ignore the facts that I have supplied to them can only be regarded as accessories after the fact. They are not above the law. Within the British House of Commons, there exists a Masonic Lodge for Members of Parliament and the Press Gallery. Therefore it is shown that Freemasonry has an influence within government and I would suggest that it is substantial. Member of Parliament Chris Mullin's Secret Societies Declaration Bill, which he placed before Parliament a few years ago failed to become law. His Bill, had it became law, would have helped to protect the British public from the influence of all Secret Societies. Then Prime Minister John Major, said that he would try to make time for another reading of the Bill. That has never happened. Perhaps it's not happened because there are so many Masonic Members of Parliament who don't want it to happen? Where any Society maintains such secrecy as that of Freemasonry, the reasons for it must be given all due consideration. I have done this. I think it is very clear to me now, more especially after what has been done to me, why they exercise such secrecy. Page 2. Background History. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: business update -Humour
MERGERS IN THE WIND FOR 1999 Xerox and Wurlitzer: They're going to make reproductive organs. Fairchild Electronics and Honeywell Computers: New company will be called Fairwell Honeychild Polygram Records, Warner Brothers and Keebler: New company will be called Poly-Warner-Cracker W. R. Grace Co., Fuller Brush Co.: Mary Kay Cosmetics and Hale Business Systems: New company will be called Hale Mary Fuller Grace 3M Goodyear: mmmGood John Deere Abitibi-Price: Deere Abi Honeywell, Imasco, and Home Oil: Honey, I'm Home Denison Mines, Alliance, and Metal Mining: Mine, All Mine 3M, J.C. Penney, Canadian Opera Company: 3 Penney Opera Grey Poupon Dockers Pants: Poupon Pants Knott's Berry Farm National Organization of Women: Knott NOW! Zippo Manufacturing, Audi, Dofasco, Dakota Mining: Zip Audi Do-Da
[CTRL] Fwd: Aspartame Alert
Debunking Internet Health Alarms By LAURAN NEERGAARD .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) -- An e-mail campaign attacking an artificial sweetener was spreading fear fast: ``Could I have been misdiagnosed? Will eliminating the aspartame in my diet eliminate the MS symptoms?'' a panicked patient asked the Multiple Sclerosis Foundation. Absolutely not, the MS Foundation replied, furious that whoever wrote the e- mail not only frightened vulnerable patients but falsely used the group's name as part of the campaign. ``We've been completely inundated with calls about this,'' said the MS Foundation's Cliff Roer. ``It was very alarming.'' Welcome to the latest health scare on the Internet, where e-mail or ``consumer alerts'' can suddenly spark panic by blaring about ``DEADLY POISONS.'' ``I call them toxic terrorists,'' said Jeff Stier of the American Council on Science and Health. He investigated after his New York City group got calls from frightened Internet users last week. Consumer scares are nothing new, but the Internet lets rumors spread faster -- and archives them forever, he said. ``It's so easy to play on people's fears.'' The scare du jour is over claims that aspartame, sold under such brand names as NutraSweet, causes MS or another disease, lupus. For the record, the Food and Drug Administration says that is false. MS and lupus have been around a lot longer than aspartame has, and repeated scientific studies have found no connection between the sweetener and such symptoms. An MS Foundation neurologist also investigated and calls the allegations ``rabidly inaccurate.'' But it is not the only scare. Last fall, a ``Shampoo Alert'' claimed an ingredient that helps the suds form in almost every shampoo is really an ``engine degreaser'' that causes cancer. Today, Internet chat rooms still show people asking if they should toss their shampoo. In fact, the ingredient might irritate your eyes or your skin, but cancer experts agree there is no sign it is carcinogenic. ``This is something we're going to see a lot more of,'' cautioned Dr. Randolph Wykoff of the FDA, which received more than 100 questions about the shampoo scare and dozens so far about aspartame. The Internet is full of important, even lifesaving, medical information, Wykoff stressed. The quandary is one of consumer savvy: How do you filter out the exaggerations, misinterpretations or falsehoods? For people searching for information on the Internet, it is less of a problem: Just use Web sites operated by reputable groups such as the National Institutes of Health or medical journals, and be wary of cure-all claims. The bigger question is what to believe when an alarming e-mail shows up unsolicited -- but with just enough science to sound credible, and then snowballs into frightened discussions on Internet bulletin boards. Take aspartame, which long has been controversial. Some people do say they are sensitive to it. But the FDA insists that 20 years of research has not found evidence of serious side effects -- except in some people with the rare genetic disease PKU or phenylketonuria, who cannot properly process an aspartame component called phenylalinine. The new scare, however, argues that aspartame causes MS and lupus symptoms by breaking down into toxic methanol. Attempts to find the e-mail's author have failed. Very high doses of methanol can be toxic, but aspartame causes only the same tiny amounts you would get from fruits or vegetables such as tomatoes and tomato juice, which also produce methanol during digestion, said FDA food safety expert Dr. David Hattan. Both MS and lupus are diseases that wax and wane, so if a person felt better or worse in connection with how much diet cola she drank, it is pure coincidence, Wykoff added. But how is a consumer to sort out such claims? Call your doctor, check science books in libraries or on science-based Web sites, or call reputable consumer groups. Remember, ``if there's a breakthrough, they're not going to read it in a secret message on the Internet,'' says Dr. John Renner of the National Council for Reliable Health Information. EDITOR'S NOTE -- Lauran Neergaard covers health and medical issues for The Associated Press in Washington.
Re: [CTRL] Fw: IS BILL CLINTON A RAPIST???? (new evidence) (u)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/31/99 5:56:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Today's charge is largely based on a letter from this man, Philip Yoakum, a friend and business associate of the alleged victim. In a letter to Broaddrick, written in 1992, Yoakum, a Republican writes, I was particularly distraught when you told me of your brutal rape by Bill Clinton, how he bit your lip until you gave into his forcing sex upon you.' In an interview with NBC NEWS, Yoakum said Broaddrick told him that Clinton invited himself to her hotel room, allegedly to discuss her nursing home business. Isn't it amazing how many women have been in hotel rooms with Bill Clinton? Seems like he hardly ever met one anywhere else. I was probably wrong when I said he touched my leg in a dark movie theater. Now that I think of it, I'm sure it was a hotel room somewhere. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [CIA-Drugs] Colby, the FLIR tape
-Caveat Lector- From: Michael Novick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 21:54:44 -0800 From: Jon Roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Colby, the FLIR tape, and a new Waco documentary In response to a message I forwarded from Ian Goddard, in which he cited an article from _American Freedom_ magazine, Vol. 1, No. 7, October, 1996, consisting of a report by Gordon Novel of an interview with former CIA Director William Colby, and in which Goddard recalls Novel to have claimed to have received the FLIR footage that appeared in the Academy Award nominated documentary _Waco: the Rules of Engagement_ from Colby, who is also supposed to have said that President Clinton was "behind" the Oklahoma City bombing on April 19, 1995, I received an email message from Michael McNulty, a producer of the Waco documentary, asking me to call him to get some corrections on that initial report. I called him January 29, 1999. The following is extracted from my telephone conversation with McNulty: In late 1993 the Davidian defense team received a copy of the FLIR footage from the FBI through discovery, but they were unable to play it in their machines. McNulty says he got the tape several months later, about April, 1994, after the Davidians had been convicted and while they were awaiting sentencing. The defense team had been unable to play the tape because it was in a super VHS format that was unlabeled. McNulty says the lack of a label was at least unprofessional, and at worst an attempt at obfuscation. McNulty provided a lengthy analysis of the tape in June, 1994, and returned the tape, after making a dub of it with the permission of the defense team, onto a digital D2 format. The defense team sent McNulty's analysis to the U.S. prosecutor, although McNulty's analysis did not identify the flashes as automatic firearms fire. It was about 18 months after McNulty got the tape that former CIA Director William Colby contacted Gordon Novel, who said that Colby sent two men to show Novel a high-quality, probably 1st-generation copy, of the FLIR footage, who pointed out to Novel what to look for on the tape and where to find it. However, they did not leave a copy of the tape with Novel at that time. What they pointed out were the signatures of automatic gunfire by assaulting troops directed at the only exits of the buildings, which the Davidians would have had to use to escape the fire. At that point McNulty had the only copy of the tape, a 3rd-generation digital D2 copy, other than the one retained by the Davidian defense lawyer he had obtained it from, and he refused to release it to anyone. He had already become friends with Gordon Novel, who had begun working as an investigator for the firm of Ramsey Clark, who had become one of several law firms representing the Davidians in their civil case. Novel told McNulty what Colby's men had told him, and McNulty then took his tape and the information delivered from Colby through Novel and sought an expert in interpreting FLIR footage who was not associated with the government in a way that the expert would not have wanted to work with McNulty. He found one in Dr. Edward Allard, who appears in the documentary with his analysis. In the meantime, Novel got himself in trouble and was put in jail in Ohio, and was interviewed by Don Weideman for a series of articles. It was during these interviews that Novel revealed he had a copy, probably a 3rd- or 4th-generation copy, of the FLIR footage. McNulty's 3rd-generation copy is the FLIR footage that was used in the documentary. Another dub was made of the 2nd-generation copy the defense attorney had, and it was that copy which was later passed on to the firm of Caddell and Chapman, and from them to the firm of former Attorney General Ramsey Clark. Novel got his 3rd- or 4th-generation copy from Jim Brannen, one of the civil litigation attorneys. Impatient with the delay in getting the footage to the public through the documentary, Novel took his 3rd- or 4th-generation copy of the FLIR footage to CBS Sixty Minutes, who sought their own expert analyst in the firm Infraspections, and that analyst confirmed Allard's analysis of the flashes as automatic weapons fire. Later, CBS Sixty Minutes personnel went to members of Congress on the committee investigating the incident, and misrepresented the results of their expert's analysis to those congressmen, saying the analyst found no sign of gunfire. They did not provide a copy of the tape or the analysis of their expert to those congressmen, who obtained the short segments they viewed during the hearings from Paul Gray and James Quintiari, federal arson investigators on the government team. That incident, and others, will be coming out in a new documentary McNulty is producing called _Waco: A New Revelation_, due out in late February or early March, 1999. In 1998, attorney David Hardy, also allied with the civil litigation team, was able to obtain a 1st-generation copy of
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Aspartame Alert
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/31/99 6:11:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The scare du jour is over claims that aspartame, sold under such brand names as NutraSweet, causes MS or another disease, lupus. I don't care what the FDA says about aspartame. Remember a few years ago when Cher was choosing a it over sugar. (I won't repeat the brand name.) Well, I'm sure she did, and right after all that she was diagnosed with Epstein Barr. The good word is don't use fake food. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Dutch Fraternal Order of Knights Templar
-Caveat Lector- from: http://welcome.to/tempeliers A HREF="http://welcome.to/tempeliers"Dutch Fraternal Order of Knights Templar /A - COMMANDERY OF THE LOW LANDS Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed Nomini Tuo da gloriam ©1998 Templar Fraternity GLADIUS DEI. The Dutch Templar Fraternity GLADIUS DEI is not affiliated with Freemasonry, the SMOTJ, the OSMTH or the IFA. This Knights Templar Research Ring site owned by Donato Ranzato. [ Previous 5 Sites | Previous | Next | Next 5 Sites | Random Site | List Sites Want to Join the Knights Templar Research Ring My URL: http://welcome.to/tempeliers - from: http://welcome.to/tempeliers A HREF="http://welcome.to/tempeliers"Dutch Fraternal Order of Knights Templar /A - AN ANCIENT CHIVALRIC BROTHERHOOD XHISTORY The original medieval templar fraternity was founded in 1264 and it was called Spada del Dio by its founder, a Venetian Knights Templar called Giovanni di Ranza Santone. The name of the fraternity is the Italian translation of the name of a special group of Knights Templar he belonged to called Gladius Dei. Gladius Dei (Sword of God) was founded by the Italian Knight Rosalli in 1124. This corps d'elite was the secret honour guard of the Magister Templi of Italy (Umbria) and one or more Gladius Dei would always escort him to wherever the Master went. Its membership was by invitation only and its members were considered to be the ideal Knights Templar. Hist orically, members of Gladius Dei were hand selected by the Master himself and acted under his direct authority. Invitation to join Gladius Dei was often also an invitation to join the ranks of glorious martyrdom, but it's members were among the most respected and effective templars - while alive. The Dutch Priory is named Gladius Dei in memory and honor of the original fraternity which still exists until this day in Italy only under a different name. XORIGINS The fraternity has a strong chivalric/templar flavor but mixed with arabic/sufi mysticism. Why the orginal templar fraternity used arabic/sufi symbolism as part of the initiation ceremonies of the different grades is a matter of debate both in and outside the current fraternity. The author Idries Shah in "The Sufis"suggests some interesting things about a possible link between on of the possible offshoots of the fraternity - the Carbonari - and the Sufi brotherhood. "It has been said by some historians that the inspiration of the Carbonari and similar societies came from pre-Christian times, for there were settled in the Alps communities which seemed to owe allegiance to Gnostic and other ideas which some profess to see reflected in Freemasonry, Templarism and the discipleship of the way of the Sufis." - Arkon Daraul, Secret Societies Idries Shah suggests Sufic origins for a number of other Western occult societies - the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians, the Order of the Garter and the Templars. It is highly possible that the Sufis in some way influenced the Order of the Temple and that the Order used some of its sufi-influenced mysticism in its templar fraternities. These templar fraternities have possibly influenced other Orders and fraternities, such as the Carbonari and the Freemasons. General E-mail enquiries to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] The West Legacy OKC
Have you seen this one yet? -- NOTE: While we are remembering the demonic Dr. Louis Jolyon West, I'd like to remind listees that Dr. West showed up in Oklahoma City three days after the bombing (April 21st, 1995) and was present when McVeigh was transferred to the El Reno Federal Correction Facility where he remained until being transferred to Colorado for trial. West later came to town again at the end of September 1995 -- at which time his visit was the headline story on the front page of the Daily Oklahoman. In light of those things, it seems appropriate to reprint this interesting though somewhat speculative article by Alex Constantine who, toward the end of the material, writes: "But CIA watchers everywhere caught their breath when CNN announced that a psychological trauma team, mustered by the American Psychological Association, would converge in Oklahoma City to treat survivors of the explosion and the victims' families - led by none other than Dr. Louis Jolyon West of UCLA's Neuropsychiatric Institute. Dr. West is a sinister creation of the Agency's mind control fraternity. Among other totalitarian projects, he has studied the use of drugs as "adjuncts to interpersonal manipulation or assault," and employed pioneers in the field of remote, electronic mind control experimentation at UCLA. West has recommended to federal officials that drugs be used to control "bothersome" segments of the population" -- Source: http://www.fringeware.com/~hambone/arch/mcveigh.html Mind Control Timothy McVeigh's Rise from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber By Alex Constantine The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it. - Joseph Mengele The popular conception was spun by the press corps like a clay urn: McVeigh, the volatile minute man, was so bitter after failing to make the Army's "elite" Special Forces, so stuffed full of the froth of the Turner Diaries, that he vented his rage on the Alfred Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. But Captain Terry Guild, McVeigh's' former platoon leader, told reporters that the failure to become a Green Beret left the Iraq War veteran "upset. Not angry. Just very, very disappointed." In the Army, he demonstrated a willingness to carry out orders, any orders. He trained on his own time while other soldiers languished in their bunks or caroused at the PX. As a civilian, Timothy McVeigh continued to dwell on the military. In 1992 he took a job with Burns International Security Services in Buffalo and was assigned to the security detail at Calspan, a Pentagon contractor that conducts classified research in advanced aerospace rocketry and electronic warfare.Al Salandra, a spokesman for Calspan, told reporters that McVeigh was "a model employee." "He was real different," Todd Regier, a plumber, told the Boston Globe. "Kind of cold. He was almost like a robot." Within a few months, his manager planned on promoting McVeigh to the supervisory level. But McVeigh's bitterness, once directed at the military, "was becoming directed at a much larger, more ubiquitous enemy." It was in Buffalo, as a civilian, that McVeigh's rage peaked. He complained that federal agents had left him with an unexplained scar on his posterior, implanted him with a microchip. It was painful, he said, to sit on the chip. It's conceivable, given the current state-of-the-art in classified mind control technology, that McVeigh had been drawn into an experimental black project. Jeff Camp, who worked as a guard with McVeigh in upstate New York after high school, told Newsweek that the bomber was "a very strange person. It was like he had two different personalities." The press has ignored the rise of mind control operations and technology, but electronic monitoring of the brain has been perfected in research laboratories more secretive than the military science units that once tested nuclear isotopes on crippled children. The generals keep it close to their armored vests, but the miniature implantable monitor was declassified long ago. Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico, for instance, markets a sensor implant sealed inside a "hermetic biocompatible package" that runs on a tiny power coil, complete with a programmable sensor and telemetry circuits. Sandia's sales literature notes that the implant's design "is founded on technology originally developed for weapons." The Pentagon's electromagnetic arsenal is cloaked by the "nonlethal defense" program the media has been busily selling as a "humane" alternative to conventional death-dealing conventional arms. From the Pentagon's electromagnetic underworld came Timothy McVeigh, the "robotic" recruit obsessed with visions of Waco and Ruby Ridge. If he had indeed been implanted, McVeigh marched in step with a small army of glassy-eyed assassins. No Programmed Killer's Hall-of-Fame would be complete without a bust of Dennis Sweeney, the student
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-Caveat Lector- from: alt.conspiracy.jfk Clark Wilkins wrote: Please excuse my interruption. I feel I probably know as much about Ferenc Nagy and Permindex as anyone on this site. Nagy has been identified here as a Nazi, a Hungarian, and a former premier. He was all of those things. By 1957 he was trying to free Hungary from Soviet oppression and probably for the purpose of placing it under his own oppression. In doing so, he sought aid from the US State Dept (arms) and the Italian royal family which had supported him in his days as a Nazi. Nagy envisioned smuggling arms into Europe via "trade marts". He did not then know that Shaw already operated a Trade Mart. With State Dept knowledge (and probably at the suggestion of CD Jackson) Nagy called on Shaw and formed Permindex. The CIA denies Permindex was a front company of theirs but they do admit to keeping a file on Permindex. Supporting the CIA's claim, the company was predominately foreign owned. Contradicting the CIA's claim, however, is the fact that the Tolstoy Foundation, which obtained CIA funding, was electing directors to the board in equal proportion to the directors being elected by the Italian royal family. Again, Nagy's Fascist buddies were elected to the board in the exact same numbers. Still others were elected to the board for no apparent political reason. Many, if not all, of these latter directors were unaware of Permindex's true purpose and operations. Clay Shaw falls in this group. Tracking Permindex's bank financing leads back, in part, to the US and was almost certainly done with CIA knowledge and approval. The CIA knew Nagy well. Still, there is no indication that the CIA was providing any leadership role in Permindex. It simply did not interfere with it's existence. Instead, the evidence indicates that the officers, directors, and stockholders looked to British intelligence for leadership. The US and Britain have formed coalitions in the past (WWI, WWII, Korea, and Iraq) and Permindex appears to have been an Italian, American, and British coalition organized and led by the British (for purposes I won't go into here). As for the claim that Permindex was kicked out of Switzerland, it was not. Permindex moved out of Switzerland because "someone else" was kicked out of Switzerland who they were working very closely with and they needed to maintain that relationship. That's how that story got started. It's really not that far off base anyway. I have no idea if DeGaulle ever publicly accused Permindex of trying to kill him. I doubt it. DeGaulle was provided a report by French SDECE intelligence which identified Permindex as trying to assassinate him on behalf of Israel. There is some misinformation and many false conclusions in this report (It's about as accurate as the President's Commission on Pornography). It's purpose was more political than accurate. By way of comparison, it was a French SDECE agent that wrote "Farewell, America". So you can get idea of the work. Anyway, Charles DeGaulle did not believe any reports issued to him at the time by the SDECE so I doubt if he took it seriously. Did Permindex get involved in assassination? I would say yes. Did that include JFK's assassination? As a corporate effort I can state with 100% certainty that Permindex was not involved. Some Permindex connections to Dallas do exist, however, which deserve attention but I don't think Clay Shaw is amongst them. That's my 2 bits worth. Hope it helps. .Clark British intelligence for leadership you say? Yet at least two company officers were ex OSS. Bloomfield who was president I think and Shaw. Knowing Shaw's history makes it unlikely that he was one of these unaware directors you are referring to. It has been said on this group recently that the major funding came from Canada. I forget his name but it was said to be the then head of Seagrams. This poster is an anti Zionist Hollocaust Revisionist also tho and was grinding his own axe at the same time. I refer to B. Flat of course. Tony DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] Fwd: Possible Terorist at White House
Possible Terrorist Nabbed in D.C. WASHINGTON (AP) -- U.S. Park Police working the perimeter of the White House on Saturday arrested a man described to them by the Secret Service as a possible terrorist. Police detained the man at mid afternoon near the Ellipse, a grassy area outside the White House's south gate, and took him to the Secret Service's Washington field office for questioning, said Park Police Lt. Cheryl Braun. Officers had been on the lookout since just after 12:00 p.m. for a man in his mid 30's, wearing sunglasses, a hooded sweatshirt and sweatpants, who had been spotted near the White House. Park Police Sgt. Michael Keenan said the Secret Service identified the man as a possible terrorist and ordered him detained. Keenan said he did not know why the man was suspected of being a terrorist. Secret Service spokeswoman Chaun Young did not immediately return a call for comment. President Clinton and the first lady left the White House at mid day and helicoptered to the presidential retreat at Camp David for a long-planned weekend respite.
[CTRL] Fwd: Have a Safe Trip on Y2K
Drip, drip, drip . . . (From the JAPANESE press.) Americans warned of traveling abroad at turn of 2000 .c Kyodo News Service WASHINGTON, Jan. 29 (Kyodo) -- The U.S. government cautioned Americans on Friday against traveling abroad at the end of the year or the start of the next year due to the possible mishaps that might be caused by the ''Y2K'' computer glitch. The State Department issued the notice citing possible transportation disruptions and financial problems, including malfunctioning of credit cards and ATM machines, related to the millennium bug. The department also referred to possible disruption of electricity and water services overseas. The notice did not refer to specific countries, and only said, ''It is difficult to forecast where the Y2K problem will surface.'' The department stressed that those with special medical requirements should especially take care around Jan. 1, 2000, saying they should not assume that medical facilities and services will be available at their travel destination. The notice also advised travelers to confirm with insurance companies whether they will be covered by insurance when faced with damages related to the Y2K problem. The department said it plans to provide information about how countries around the world are dealing with the problem. Specialists point to the possibility that Russia may face electrical power failures in severe cold weather due to computer problems related to the Y2K issue, and the lack of a response to the problem in the developing world. The Y2K problem involves the systemic failure of computers running on software that identifies years by their last two digits, leading computers to read ''2000'' as ''1900'' past midnight Jan. 1, 2000.
[CTRL] Fwd: It's the WEATHER, Stupid
Typical headlines from AP, Reuters, Bloomberg business summaries: Famine may persist in North Korea Soybeans could fall on Brazilian weather Natural gas falls on anticipation of warmer winter weather Heavy November rain to delay Brazil cocoa mid-crop China wheat - Drought sparks import speculation Fiji sugar crop again hit by severe flooding January rain reduces Iran drought threat - USDA UK potato sowing delayed by heavy rain for 2nd year, BPC says Cold front expected in German crop regions Coffee falls; ample supply outweighs earthquake worry Drought threatens 1999 Mauritian sugar production ... US science group calls for action on climate change WASHINGTON, Jan 28 (Reuters) - A leading group of U.S. scientists called on Thursday for continued efforts to curb man made carbon emissions despite scientific uncertainties about the causes and impacts of climate change. The Council of the American Geophysical Union released a statement calling for enhanced international research on climate change. But it said science could not be the only guide on society's response to changing world temperatures and seemingly erratic weather patterns. ``AGU recommends the development and evaluation of strategies such as emissions reduction, carbon sequestration, and adaptation to the impacts of climate change,'' the council statement said. ``AGU believes that the present level of scientific uncertainty does not justify inaction in the mitigation of human-induced climate change and/or the adaptation to it.'' The statement drew a sharp response from groups opposed to Clinton administration's policies on global warming and a warning that the AGU declaration would be used by proponents of government mandates, like those contained in the international Kyoto climate change treaty negotiated in late 1997. The Kyoto Protocol framework calls for industrial nations to cut heat-trapping emissions from burning fossil fuels by an average of 5.2 percent below 1990 levels in the years 2008-12. The United States signed the treaty last November, but details of how the agreement would work have not been decided. President Bill Clinton has not submitted the treaty for Senate ratification due to opposition from Republicans, and some Democrats. The Competitive Enterprise Institute, a free market, ``limited government'' group, said the AGU had ``betrayed science and embraced politics'' in announcing its position. ``In rendering a policy judgment favourable to the Clinton-Gore administration, the AGU statement has crossed the line separating science from advocacy,'' said Paul Georgia, research associate for the CEI. The AGU, which represents some 35,000 members, was also criticised for issuing an opinion from its leadership even though the rank and file had not signed off on the position. AGU's statement emphasised the uncertainties about what should be the proper response to the global warming phenomenon, noting the inherent complexities of the climate system. ``The increase in global mean surface temperatures over the past 150 years appears to be unusual in the context of the last few years, but it is not clearly outside the range of climate variability of the last few thousand years,'' the AGU said. The group said evidence suggested the ``close coupling'' between atmospheric carbon dioxide and climate change. AGU added that public concern over rising temperatures was warranted, noting it could lead to not only warmer weather, but increases in rates of precipitation and evaporation, rising sea levels and changes in the biosphere. The Global Climate Coalition, a business and trade group opposed to the Kyoto treaty but in favour of voluntary actions to battle climate change, said the AGU position verified their concerns that more knowledge is needed on the issue. Small U.S. banks ask Congress for billions in year 2000 farm aid WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Small U.S. banks urged Congress on Thursday to spend more money in the fiscal 2000 budget to fix the safety net for farmers with expanded crop insurance, market loss payments and other aid. The Independent Bankers Association of America said the extra funding was essential to help U.S. farmers survive another year or two of expected low commodity prices and depressed exports. President Bill Clinton is scheduled to unveil his budget proposal for fiscal year 2000 on Monday. Congressional aides and industry analysts said they expect the proposal to have only $100 million or so included in extra funding for crop insurance. Last October, lawmakers rushed to put together an emergency package with a record $6.9 billion package of help for farmers. The bankers' group, which represents mostly small and community banks, said Congress should not wait until the last minute again to help farmers. ``We believe Congress and the administration should pursue several courses of action early this year to enhance the farm safety net without eliminating the planting flexibility in the
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Possible Terorist at White House
-Caveat Lector- Bonzo is at it again. Has anybody else read Buchwald's "While Reagan Slept"? FWP. *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send "Subscribe Future-Cities" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [FUTURE-CITIES] Re: Citizens on the Web: Pope warms up to put the devil on ice (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Ok, funny joke, but sometimes jokes can get out of hand. Let us please not to resort to personal attacks. Wes, trys keep the noise level down, so be it, the list are his. I have found them to be very useful and helpful in understanding. CTRL covers a bit more ground than his more selected lists, but we overlap and many folks are members of many lists. I do find some noise interesting and inevitable. For among the mis, dis and noise one can find some interesting corelations. Because some is deliberate and some is 'filtered' through someone's psyche and put in 'active' play. With the internet anyone with a computer can make actiove plays. Ya got to read the river to keep afloat and moving along. Om K In a message dated 1/30/99 1:49:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Caveat Lector- Wes is a prawn/jumbo shrimp. Dan - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [mindcontrol] Re: Wes Thomas and the Need for Genetic Improvement of the Plan... (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/30/99 1:52:50 PM, Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've made yourself a topic of discussion Wes. So I suggest you not harass me again by whining to my ISP webmaster. FWP. Frank, Please do not keep us informed of your personal affrontations. They are off- topic and do not belong on this list. so keep it up or you can go whine about ME on some other lists. Om K Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: COX - CLINTON GIVES REDS THE FULL LEWINSKY
COX - CLINTON GIVES REDS THE FULL LEWINSKY Capitol Hill - Washington, D.C. At a recent RNC event in Washington Chris Cox (R-CA) said Clinton has given "a full Lewinsky" to China's communist leadership. According to Cox, Clinton has engaged in a "craven" attempt to suck up to the Chinese Communist leadership. Cox noted that Clinton had blown an opportunity to get the reds to stop beating off on human rights or at least... to stop beating up dissidents. COX DIX IN ACTION! Capitol Hill - Washington, D.C. Cox also noted that his secret report on President Clinton and Chinese espionage for advanced U.S. military technology includes whole chapters on John Huang. BURTON BLASTS RENO AS SHAM Capitol Hill - Washington D.C. Janet "Stonewall" Reno has nixed the last possible independent counsel for Harold Ickes. Rep. Dan Burton reacted swiftly issuing a statement through Will Dywer. "It is clear to me that the Attorney General is once again protecting the President and his friends," stated Burton. "Janet Reno has defied the spirit and the letter of the Independent Counsel statute for so long and has so defiantly ignored the advice of the FBI Director and her Chief Prosecutor, that her investigation has become a sham." BARR TELLS ALBRIGHT - FARC OFF Capitol Hill - Washington D.C. Rep. Bob Barr released a letter strongly critical of Secretary of State Albright. Albright has opened negotiations with the Revolutionary Forces of Colombia (FARC). FARC, according to Barr, is one of the most notorious terrorist groups in Latin American. It would seem that Albright's own State Department agrees. According to the State Department's unit on terrorism, FARC is an "international terrorist organization". CHINA CYBER CRACK DOWN Beijing - Communist China. Chinese police now have standing orders to arrest anyone making negative comments about the PRC on the Internet. FIN 1 if by land, 2 if by sea. Paul Revere - encryption 1775 Charles R. Smith SOFTWAR http://www.softwar.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pcyphered SIGNATURE: BE0A8AA963BE0BC06D8436700CB7480FB890FF332A7BED9FD440729A9C7E907C 5CAF0ACBAF20054097A8132AD6EB08115D88B6342FB712EEE18B8D64FEA8F6C3 EADD3B32A579CDF0 SOFTWAR EMAIL NEWSLETTER01/30/99 *** to unsubscribe reply with "unsubscribe" as subject***
[CTRL] Fwd: CTRL: Daily error monitoring report
Well, It is quite obvious that aols problems are still continuing. Hopefully they are getting equipment online to help with their mail delivery. As you can see aol is deleting even owners of the list. I myself have been deleted twice. Also I have beeen busy and gone much of the weekend. So, I have been able to respond to this and other 'problems' quickly, my apologies. And have to leave again, but will be able spend some time tommorrow. Other than that, life seems well. Om K - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris The following 1 subscriber was deleted from the CTRL list today: "(Charles Overbeck)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error was: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" The following 43 subscribers are currently being monitored: Err First Last Address --- - - --- 3 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 AOL User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 Teo One Thousand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 Jolly Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 Lou Minichini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air01.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last error: Mailer air02.mail.aol.com said: "550 MAILBOX NOT FOUND" 1 01/29 01/29 [EMAIL
[CTRL] Fwd: Gospel According to John, Written by - Mary ?
Subject: Mary Magdalene: Author of the Fourth Gospel? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Jan 29, 1999 12:55 EST Message-id: 78sslt$soo$[EMAIL PROTECTED] On July 13, 1998 I posted the following article on the Internet. I thought it might be of some interest to you. It is written for a "non-expert" audience. However, several prominent scholars have already said that this thesis has merit. Here are the first few paragraphs and the URL address for the complete text -- == MARY MAGDALENE: AUTHOR OF THE FOURTH GOSPEL? by Ramon K. Jusino, M.A. © 1998 INTRODUCTION This article makes a case for ascribing authorship of the Fourth Gospel (the Gospel of John) in the New Testament to Mary Magdalene. As far as I know -- no previously published work has made an argument in support of this hypothesis. Most biblical scholars today assert that the Fourth Gospel was authored by an anonymous follower of Jesus referred to within the Gospel text as the Beloved Disciple. It is posited here that, in an earlier tradition of the Fourth Gospel's community, the now "anonymous" Beloved Disciple was known to be Mary Magdalene. It is further posited that Mary Magdalene is the true founder and hero of what has come to be known as the Johannine Community (i.e., Mary Magdalene was one of the original apostolic founders and leaders of the early Christian church). I realize that this hypothesis may seem very radical and perhaps unorthodox to you. However, I believe that it is well-founded and I respectfully offer the following in support of it. The evidence supporting this thesis includes some of the Gnostic Christian writings of the Nag Hammadi Library, and internal evidence from the text of the Fourth Gospel itself. This study also relies heavily on the Johannine Community research done by Raymond E. Brown (America's foremost Catholic biblical scholar). I have made every attempt to write this article in such a way that it can be easily followed and understood by those without prior biblical scholarship knowledge. It is written and dedicated to those who embrace the love of God, who love and respect the church, and who are open-minded enough to investigate new ideas without feeling threatened by them. = You can access the full-text of this article right now, completely free of charge, at the following URL address: http://members.tripod.com/~Ramon_K_Jusino/magdalene.html If you like the essay -- please pass it along to anyone else who may be interested. I'd like to get your feedback on this. Peace, Ramon K. Jusino E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==-- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
[CTRL] Fwd: Life At the Top for Public Servants
Blair Defends Cabinet `High Living' By EMMA ROSS .c The Associated Press LONDON (AP) -- Prime Minister Tony Blair's government is fighting back against accusations that its Cabinet ministers are living it up at the British taxpayers' expense. After a string of media reports of ministerial trips involving Concorde flights, luxury resorts and chartered helicopters, the prime minister's spokesman, Alastair Campbell, insisted that the travel arrangements were necessary and governed by strict rules. Blair's Labor government swept into office in May 1997 on a public vow to clean up what it labeled the excesses of the Conservative Party, which was often accused of cronyism and sleaze during its 17 years in power. But a story in last week's Sunday Times, headlined ``Seduced by the perks of power,'' questioned whether Blair's government was falling into the trap it vowed to avoid. And in the House of Commons on Thursday, the government faced criticism both from Conservative politicians and from within its own Labor Party ranks. ``Some of us on this side of the House are not very happy about the way in which people want to live the high life and fly in Concorde and all the rest of it,'' said Dennis Skinner, a veteran left-wing Labor member of Parliament. Conservative Party member John Wilkinson dubbed Home Secretary Jack Cunningham ``Concorde Jack,'' a reference to a flight the minister had taken to the United States earlier this month. He also accused the government's top finance minister, Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown, of abandoning ``frugality.'' Brown reportedly chartered a plane in September 1997 to travel from South Africa to Thailand for a meeting after he missed a connecting flight, and then hired a helicopter to move around Bangkok. On Thursday, in a letter to the tabloid Daily Mail, Health Secretary Frank Dobson defended his decision to travel to Barbados in mid-November for a three-day conference of Commonwealth health ministers. ``I left the conference a day early and did not take part in any cruise, go swimming or sunbathing,'' he wrote. ``We can either have politics run on the level of gossip with the media trying to turn everything into a scandal or we can have a government getting on addressing the real problems facing this country,'' he added. Alan Milburn, the chief secretary of the Treasury, also defended his colleagues' travel choices, saying they met the regulations. ``We abide by those rules and they are the same rules that applied when the Conservative Party were in government,'' he said. The rules state that ministers ``must always make efficient and cost-effective travel arrangements.'' The Cabinet Office said Friday that ``there are clearly instances when a more expensive means of travel is the only way of meeting ministerial obligations.''
[CTRL] Fwd: Flirting with Death -- the Latest Turn-On
"... a subculture of gay men who eroticize risky sexual practices and embrace the prospect of becoming infected. "Across a network of Web sites, gay men from Wichita to Rotterdam advertise group sex parties for men who actively seek to become infected with HIV (a practice called "bug chasing") or seek to infect others with the virus (called "giving The Gift") ..." (And who, no doubt, are big Anne Rice fans.) "Russian Roulette" Sex Parties Gay fringe group's unsafe practices alarms AIDS experts by Sabin Russell, Chronicle Staff Writer San Francisco Chronicle, January 29, 1999 In a Castro district apartment house, an $8 admission fee promises a night of communal gay sex. The only rules: no clothes, no condoms, no discussion of HIV. Two decades into an epidemic that has taken the lives of nearly 18,000 San Franciscans, a new homosexual subculture is emerging: Healthy men are seeking unprotected sex with HIV-infected men, for the erotic thrill of communion with the deadly AIDS virus. For years, AIDS experts have been concerned about the growth of a practice known as ``barebacking,'' where condoms are abandoned, usually based on assumptions that partners are both HIV positive or both negative. Now a fringe element, linked by the Internet, is taking it even further. Web sites are offering lists of "extreme sex" party sites where the prospect of becoming infected or of infecting others is part of the erotic allure. At a "Russian roulette party" set for next month in Houston, a posting seeks three healthy men to have sex with five other men. Four of those must be HIV negative, but the fifth is already infected with the AIDS virus. Only a tiny fraction of gay men are believed to frequent such venues. Even so, many veteran AIDS activists, who championed the "safer sex" ethic that has checked the spread of the AIDS virus since the mid-1980s, are disturbed by the trend. "More than anger, I find it heartbreaking and tragic," said Daniel Zingale, executive director of AIDS Action of Washington, D.C., the nation's most powerful AIDS lobby. New research from San Francisco confirms that an increasing number of gay men are having sex with multiple partners, and without the protection of condoms. Yesterday, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that among men who have anal sex with other men, the portion of men who did so without condoms rose to 39 percent in 1997, from 30 percent in 1994. Rates of sex with more than one partner also rose, and of those engaged in the riskiest practices, 68 percent did not know whether their partner was infected with the AIDS virus. "Groups of men engaging in high-risk sex with multiple partners, that is the kind of behavior that caused the epidemic to explode," said Robert Perez of the Stop AIDS Project in San Francisco. The practice of barebacking has been fiercely debated in the gay community for several years. But nothing is creating quite the stir as the lastest issue of POZ, a glossy monthly magazine brimming with ads for AIDS drugs, featuring a sympathetic portrayal of the barebacking phenomenon. The cover features a handsome gay model, Tony Valenzuela, resting naked atop a black stallion. While the story describes the plight of Valenzuela as an outcast in the San Diego gay community for publicly advocating barebacking, the photos and graphic images portray a glamorous, sexy new icon. "The cover photo definitely turns him into a sex object. I understand people's criticisms," said POZ editor-in-chief Walter Armstrong. "We wanted to provoke people. We're willing to take the heat for that." But AIDS Action's Zingale finds this "bareback chic" appalling. "Anything that glamorizes putting your own health at risk is irresponsible and threatens to unravel all our progress," he said. POZ, which has a modest national circulation of 130,000 is not just trying to sell magazines, said Armstrong. "It's not that we wanted to defend barebacking," he said. "We wanted to try to give a fair, and considered, and nonjudgmental analysis of why this is taking place ... We want to see less condemnation of it as a behavior, and more discussion about why gay men are wanting to stop using condoms." The subculture of barebacking is explored in depth in a second POZ article "A Ride on the Wild Side," by San Francisco free-lance journalist Michael Scarce. It uncritically explores the methods and motives of men who have rejected condoms and are having unprotected sex in organized venues. It includes a visit to the Castro "Bareback House" and an account of what goes on inside. Scarce, 28 years old and HIV-negative, describes a subculture of gay men who eroticize risky sexual practices, and in some cases, are embracing the prospect of becoming infected. Across a network of Web sites, gay men from Wichita to Rotterdam advertise group sex
[CTRL] Fwd: Real-Life Justice in the Courts
Study finds DA's ROUTINELY LIE, CONCEAL EVIDENCE to win cases by Ken Armstrong and Maurice Possley Chicago Tribune, January 10, 1999 With impunity, prosecutors across the country violated their oaths and the law, committing the worst kinds of deception in the most serious of cases. They have prosecuted black men, hiding evidence the real killers were white. They have prosecuted a wife, hiding evidence her husband committed suicide. They have prosecuted parents, hiding evidence their daughter was killed by wild dogs. They do it to win. They do it because they WON'T get punished for it. They have done it to defendants who came within hours of being executed, only to be exonerated. In the first study of its kind, a Chicago Tribune analysis of thousands of court records, appellate rulings and lawyer disciplinary records from across the United States has found: *Since a 1963 US Supreme Court ruling designed to curb misconduct by prosecutors, at least 381 defendants nationally have had a homicide conviction thrown out because prosecutors concealed evidence suggesting innocence or presented evidence they knew to be false. (Of all the ways prosecutors can cheat, those two are considered the worst by the courts.) And that number represents only a FRACTION of how often this occurs. *The US Supreme Court has declared such misconduct by prosecutors to be so reprehensible that it warrants criminal charges and disbarment. But NOT ONE of those prosecutors was convicted of a crime. NOT ONE was barred from practicing law. Instead, many saw their careers advance, becoming judges, district attorneys, or [POLITICIANS]. *Of the 381 defendants, 67 had been sentenced to death ... Nearly 30 of those 67 death row inmates --about half of those whose cases have been resolved-- were subsequently freed. But almost all spent at least 5 years in prison. One served 26 years before his conviction was reversed and charges dropped. Next week three former DuPage County, Ill. prosecutors will face trial on charges of conspiring to frame Rolando Cruz, who served about 10 years on death row before being acquitted at his third trial on charges of murdering 10-year-old Jeanine Nicarico. The case is exceptionally unique -- not because prosecutors have been accused of concealing evidence and knowingly using false evidence, but because they have been INDICTED for doing so. If convicted of a felony for such misconduct, it would be the FIRST TIME that has happened in the United States. ... The kind of DELIBERATE misconduct that contributed to those 381 defendants' homicide convictions is so grave that courts believe it should NEVER [be allowed to] occur. But, although prosecutors often downplay individual cases involving such deceit as "aberrations," the body of cases turned up by the Tribune's search reveals that it happens FREQUENTLY and in nearly limitless ways ... Prosecutors have concealed evidence that discredited their star witnesses, pointed to other suspects, or supported a defendant's claim of self-defense. They have suppressed evidence that a murder occurred when the defendants had alibis, or that it occurred not in a defendant's home, as alleged, but in a someone else's cornfield far away. In one case prosecutors depicted red paint as blood. In another they portrayed hog blood as human ... In 1998 alone, at least three people were freed after being retried because prosecutors had concealed evidence ... In a 1963 case, Brady vs. Maryland, the US Supreme Court ruled that prosecutors must disclose evidence favorable to a defendant (exculpatory evidence). But even when prosecutors are caught hiding evidence, courts [[often staffed by judges who began as prosecutors themselves]] will reverse a conviction only if the evidence was so strong that its disclosure would have created a "reasonable probability" of a different verdict. Courts use a similar threshold in cases where prosecutors presented evidence they knew to be false. The result is that courts frequently uphold a conviction EVEN WHEN prosecutors suppress evidence or allow witnesses to lie -- ruling that the prosecutor's actions, while reprehensible, "probably" would not have changed the trial's outcome ...
[CTRL] Fwd: Business As Usual Typical in a Demo Town
Slices of Life in a Major Democrat-Run City -- Nose Downwind from San Francisco's Version of Billy Blythe POTS OF CASH, SECRET DONORS: Nonprofit groups that pay for mayor's trips and gifts may skirt disclosure laws by Erin McCormick San Francisco Examiner, Jan. 25, 1999 Mayor Willie Brown, perhaps the most astute political fund-raiser in California history, has found a multimillion-dollar way around the tough disclosure laws governing public life in San Francisco and the state. Three nonprofits set up to fund mayoral junkets to foreign cities, gifts and events have been collecting money from secret donors at a rate of $3.5 million a year, according to reports filed with the Internal Revenue Service covering parts of 1997. The donations, which are allowed under laws governing nonprofits, have even outpaced the record-setting $2.8 million Brown raised for his 1995 election. But critics question whether the nonprofits' fund-raising is skirting strict San Francisco campaign contribution laws that require public disclosure of all donors and limit gifts to $750. "Three million dollars is an amazing amount," said Supervisor Leland Yee. "The mayor's got a lot of activities he's involved in, and I guess he's got to find some way to pay for them. But people are being kept in the dark as to who is giving donations. I think it skirts the reporting process under fair political practices laws." Brown refused an Examiner request that he make public the names of donors to the mayoral nonprofits: the San Francisco Special Events Committee, the San Francisco Host Committee and the Mayor's Youth Fund. "By law we are not required to do that and the mayor does not choose to do it," said Ron Vinson, a spokesman for Brown. "If the donors wish to make their donations public they can." Federal returns from the three nonprofits show such expenditures as $182,000 for the mayor's overseas junkets, $192,000 to buy gifts for visiting dignitaries and $2.2 million to host the 1997 U.S. Conference of Mayors. Vinson said the Conference of Mayors, which brought the top officials from more than 300 cities to San Francisco, drove up the amount of fund-raising. "It was a big deal," he said. "More money was raised for that event because of the magnitude of hosting mayors from all over the country." All three nonprofit organizations were in place before Brown took office in 1996. But, since his term began, Brown has increased the organizations' annual intake by more than 800 percent - turning a kitty that once provided city leaders a few hundred thousand dollars a year in extra spending money into a multimillion-dollar mayoral war chest. A few names made public While most of the groups' federal filings bear headings stating that names of donors are "not open to public inspection," a few donor names have been made public. Records for the San Francisco Mayor's Youth Fund show that the nonprofit, which paid for two citywide youth conferences sponsored by the mayor, received large contributions from several corporations that were involved in development deals and contracts with the city during 1997. *The San Francisco 49ers, which won a ballot measure to use city bonds to finance a new stadium and mall with the mayor's support in June 1997, gave $10,000. *The Crystal Springs Golf Partners company, which holds a city contract to run a golf course on public land, gave $20,000. *The foundation for the Gap, which got help from The City Redevelopment Agency in 1997 to win the exclusive right to buy a prime piece of state-owned waterfront property for a proposed headquarters building, gave $10,000. Other contributions to the youth fund came from the McDonald's Corp., Levi Strauss Foundation, Macy's department stores, Sumitomo Bank, J.C. Penney Co., the Charles Schwab Foundation and Nestle. Only one donor to the other two nonprofits has been revealed. Democratic booster and Ralph's grocery chain owner Ron Burkle, who is seeking an exclusive Treasure Island development contract from The City, gave $100,000 to the San Francisco Special Events Committee to help Brown pay for the Conference of Mayors events. "It's vexing because of the inability to find out who these donors are," said former state Sen. Quentin Kopp last month, days before he won an appointment to a San Mateo judgeship. "There's a question of whether they're buying influence. I bet if you look at the list you'll find more than one (donor) who's seeking some sort of public benefit." While politicians must file disclosures several times a year about their political contributions, only the sketchiest information is available about money given to nonprofits - even those controlled by politicians. The only public information about charities' fund-raising activities comes from annual IRS returns that don't have to be filed for more than a year
[CTRL] Fwd: Two-Thirds into a Great Depression
WHY WE'RE IN _TWO-THIRDS_ OF A GREAT DEPRESSION by Richard N. Bolles (author of "What Color is Your Parachute?") San Francisco Examiner, Sunday, January 24, 1999 When you are out of work during a prosperous time like the present, it's easy to get the feeling that everyone in the country has a job except you. As you walk the streets, seeing everyone laughing around you, with no one guessing the depth of your loss or the sorrow of losing your job, it can be a mighty lonely feeling. You are not alone So let's put that feeling in some kind of perspective, with actual numbers. Turn to the Great Depression. During the height of that Depression, in 1933, the government says there were more than 12 million Americans out of work. We all would agree that's an awful lot of people out of work at the same time. Now turn to the present time, and what do we see? We see 7 million Americans currently out of work -- which is close to two- thirds of the number of people who were ought of work at the height of the Depression. Oops! Why didn't you know that? Well, it's not ever popular to talk about how many people are out of work. Year in or year out, regardless of whether the Republicans or the Democrats are in power, it's more popular to talk about the unemployment rate. "Rate" is so clinical, so objective, so removed from the thought of actual souls going through a very difficult period in their lives. Also "rate" can be made to sound good. For example, the unemployment rate in 1933 was 24.9 percent, which sounds terrible, while the unemployment rate recently has been hovering around 4.4 percent, which sounds great. Hiding suffering We rarely think to ask: 24.9 percent of what? And, 4.4 percent of what? The answer is: "the number of people in the labor force at that time." That can vary greatly over time. In 1933, 12.8 million people were out of work, but because the labor force was much smaller than it is today, this worked out to the 24.9 percent rate. Today, the government admits there are 6.1 million people out of work, but because the labor force is much larger than it was in 1933, this has worked out to a 4.4 percent unemployment rate. That sounds like a small figure, but it masks the large figure beneath it. And it masks a lot of suffering. Unhappily, the true figure is even worse. The government now counts unemployment in a different way than it did in 1933 -- it no longer considers people "unemployed" if they haven't looked for a job in the last four weeks. Those people, 1.2 million in number currently, are now classified as "discouraged workers." (!!??!!?) Add their number to the unemployment figure currently, as any sane person would, and you find there are actually 7.3 million people out of work. So you are anything but alone if you are out of work in these prosperous times. Don't go it alone But you can sink into a depression -- not the economic kind but the emotional kind -- if you try to go it alone. You need to find some of those 7 million other unemployed people and work together on your job hunt ... [Blah blah, blah blah blah, blah ] snip cliche advice
[CTRL] Fwd: Il Papa Meets Ol' Bubba
Papal visit, presidential bull by columnist Rob Morse San Francisco Examiner, Jan. 28, 1999 Pope John Paul II met with Bill Clinton and didn't whack his hand with a ruler. That's the take most news organizations had on Tuesday's meeting of the world leader of Catholicism and the world's most famous sinner. That didn't surprise me, because the pope is concerned with higher moral issues than those that concern hypocritical home wrecker Henry Hyde. What surprised me was the stark political contrast between these two world leaders. On all but one very important issue, the Democratic president is the conservative, and the pope is the progressive. In every way but one, the pope has the same political program as the Bay Guardian and the Nation magazine. In every way but one, not counting his own impeachment, Bill Clinton is a Republican fellow-traveler. The pope is against the death penalty. The president is in favor of it. He's even used lethal injection as a tool for election. While he was running for president in 1992, then-Gov. Clinton denied clemency for a brain-damaged cop-killer named Rickey Ray Rector, and even left the campaign trail to go back to Arkansas for the execution. The pope is against the bombing of Iraq. The president is ordering the bombings, which have had excellent political timing, but sometimes poor accuracy. This week 11 civilians were killed by errant bombs. The Clinton administration said it was Iraq's fault. At least they didn't try to redefine "killed." The pope backed the worldwide treaty banning land mines, signed by 122 countries. The president refused to sign it. The pope wants the United States to lift sanctions against Cuba. The president won't. The pope has lectured against the evils of "exploitative capitalism." The president has fought for big business and a global economy that sends jobs across borders to the cheapest labor. The pope has fought against "every form of violence," including "the violence of poverty and hunger." The president threw the poor off welfare. The pope has spoken out against "the culture of selfishness." The president is the poster boy for selfishness. Clinton risked his family and the Democratic Party for a few goatish moments with a nubile intern, and then convinced his cabinet members to repeat his untrue denials to save his hide. The pope and Clinton do agree on a few things. Like the pope, Clinton and his wife have called on young people to use abstinence as a mainstay against unwanted pregnancy. Clinton himself has another method of preventing pregnancy, but however you define it, it's not abstinence. That brings us to the one big issue that gets the pope defined as a conservative, and Clinton defined as a liberal: abortion. It's also the issue that has kept Clinton from being forced to walk the gangplank onto Marine One and fly away to his place in history and continuing prosecution by Ken Starr. Clinton is in favor of women's right to abortion, so we liberals, leftists, feminists, civil-libertarians and suckers can't allow the anti-abortion fanatics on the right to drive him out of office. Thus we have the sight of feminists defending a president who cheated on St. Hillary by messing around with a 21-year-old intern in the Oval Office. Thus the cognitive dissonance among all us liberal Clinton dislikers. We know he's a sleaze in many ways, and now we have to defend him even though he had sleazy sex with a subordinate almost as young as his daughter. He did it while Ken Starr was trying to find any reason to nail the pasty presidential skin to the wall. We have to defend Clinton because his enemies are bigger jerks than he is. They want to chain women to the Hotpoint, put gays in religious re-education camps and teach social Darwinism, but not Darwinism. That's what they'd do right after they finish wrecking our political system, and outraging our sense of fairness, just to ruin a president who represents everything they don't like. To them, Clinton represents the '60s. For me, Clinton simply represents old-fashioned amoral electoral politics, the kind we repudiated in the '60s. The Republicans won't be able to nail him because he's better at that game than they are. If anyone represents the '60s, it's his fanatical opponents. They're like the Weather Underground, willing to blow up anything to make a symbolic point, even if they destroy themselves. I'm not a Catholic or a Clintonite, but I find much to admire in both the pope and the president - yes, the president. Anybody who can survive what Clinton has been through for the last six years has the kind of moxie it takes to be president in bad times. Too bad the Republicans had to invent bad times for him, and for us. It's nice that Clinton and the pope got together in these times, but here's what really ticks me off.
[CTRL] Fwd: Mass Poisoning? An UPDATE
I just got the following message from William Thomas (http://www.islandnet.com/~wilco) a veteran journalist covering military activity who broke the story on wide- spread accounts of spraying from USAF jets that makes people sick and leaves local hospitals overflowing. USAF Jets Said To Be Spraying Something That Sickens: http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-12-01.html http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jan99/1999L-01-08-05.html Since the story broke, William has been flooded with accounts from around the nation of massive jet-spray operations followed by widespread illness below. I've received many such accounts and I don't know what to make of this: Are these false associations? Are people pulling my leg? Or is this true? Will Thomas says yes! To get an idea of how widespread these jet-poisoning reports are, listen to the 1/25/99 Art Bell show here: http://ww2.broadcast.com/artbell/archive99.html#jan99 As we have seen, with respect to the now-repealed U.S. Code 10(1520), the use of entire "civilian populations" for the testing of any chemical or biological warfare agent has been fully permitted, subject only to minor conditions. The new law, USC 10(1520(a)), puts limits only on any public poisoning conducted by one official. If mass poisoning is defined in the law, can we really say that reports of jets spraying sickness down from the skies is such a big surprise? -- Ian Goddard This could be the biggest and most-covered-up story ever: == FORWARDED MESSAGE == Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:03:48 -0800 (PST) To: Ian Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: William Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Foreign Troops? Hi Ian, . . . please issue the following alert. The clock is tickin... Something huge is going on. In many regions, I can confirm that hospital emergency rooms are filled to overflowing with a sudden epidemic of acute respiratory patients suffering from something doctors cannot diagnose - and that is NOT the flu. Newspapers in Bakersfield, California are reporting jammed emergency rooms. Here's a typical story from a North Carolina newspaper: "FEELING ROTTEN? Outbreak of respiratory illnesses has doctors' offices full, but it's probably not the flu." by Rebecca Lentz, Staff Writer "Call it the creeping crud. Call it a virus. Call it whatever you'd like. But whatever it is, it's miserable. "Adults and children alike are down for the count with the virus. Upper respiratory infections are keeping doctors' offices hopping and the hospital seeing record numbers of patients. "Medac, a walk-in clinic, has been busy with patients complaining of similar symptoms. New Hanover Regional's patient count has been at its highest level in history, with 503 of its available 504 inpatient beds filled on Jan. 7. On Sunday, the patient count stood at 454. Even so, the majority of illnesses aren't influenza, health officials said. This much we know: 1. Reports of odd "contrails" are coming in from 22 states so far. Many sightings occurred months or years before this story was made public - prompting impromptu snapshots and video recordings and calls to the attention of friends and bystanders by people who are quite used to seeing commercial airplanes and normal contrails - and were astonished to see giant X's and grid-patterns woven "like Tic-tac-toe" by large aircraft criss-crossing the sky, often for hours over the same area. 2. These are not "contrails" being reported. The aircraft have been positively identified as USAF Boeing KC-135 and KC-10 air-to-air refueling aircraft spraying an unidentified substance from their tail-booms. 3. The observed tanker aircraft are not engaged in routine formation flying or air-to-air refueling. JP8 fuel inadvertently spilled or dumped to lower landing weights atomizes at jet speeds and does not fall as "cobwebs" observed by police officers and other reliable witnesses. Routine fuel dumping does not continue over hours by multiple aircraft weaving furrows over the same area until clear blue skies are completely hazed over. 4. Now occurring daily, this extremely expensive nationwide "spraying" is deliberate and laid down in specific patterns over hours. 5. These are not "cloud-seeding" activities as no clouds are present and local weather does not turn to rain immediately after these events. 6. In some notable cases, violent and unseasonal storms such as the recent flurry of "summer" tornadoes over Tennessee and heavy snowfall in Bakersfield, CA and Phoenix, AZ have occurred within days of documented (videotaped) spraying. Sharp "spikes" in power output from the USN/USAF "ionospheric heater" known has HAARP have were recorded just before last December's "horizontal snowstorm", localized around Turret Peak, AZ. These weather anomalies - and HAARP - may be related to aerial spraying using fast-dissolving, "smart plastic"
[CTRL] Fwd: Adm. Thomas Moorer on PRC Control of Panama
Admiral Thomas Moorer was one of the people who believed, after a presentation by Cmdr. William Donaldson, that TWA 800 was downed by a missile. Disinformationists, such as Elmer Barr tend to attack him for his advanced age, as senility. But I think his mind is very sharp and that he makes some very good points. He was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs during the Reagan Administration. He makes some excellent points about his concerns over Panama and the Clinton Administration. Best Regards. Marshall Houston Portland, Oregon http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_excomm/19990129_xex_chokehold_ch.shtml FRIDAY JANUARY 29 1999 Chokehold for China By Thomas H. Moorer, USN Ret © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com Any one who has been involved, as I have, in logistic planning to support the entire "forward-deployed" military capacity of the United States, where the time of transit from sources of supply to the deployed forces is so critical, knows the danger faced when choke points are controlled by unfriendly forces. In the case of the Isthmus of Panama, any entity that controls the anchorages has the capacity to control and disrupt the flow of shipping. Panama's enactment of its Law #5 in 1997 has enabled the Hutchison Whampoa interests, closely allied with the military interests of Communist China, to do just that. This law was passed by the Balladares clique in Panama with the tacit support and encouragement of the present administration, which has sought to prevent the public from knowing the full extent to which that law, and its implementation to date, pose a threat to our national security by giving Communist China the capability to prevent our support of our forward deployment at will. Has the president stated to the public that our entire military capability is now hostage to the very oppressive government which financed his campaigns from their outset? Or has he blocked the attempts to bring out that truth? In June, responding to an invitation from Sen. Helms, I testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on the clear and present danger created by Panamanian Law #5, which was passed under extremely suspicious circumstances indicating a motive far beyond the commercial on the part of the Hutchison Whampoa interests of Mr. Li Ka Sheng, a gentleman very close to the communist rulers of China. There are signs that this Law #5 does not reflect the will of a majority of Panamanians. In fact, although the constitution of Panama requires all laws which involve foreign nations to be submitted to a popular plebiscite, that was not done with Law #5, apparently out of fear that it would not pass such a test. The American public needs to know of the pressing strategic danger posed by the capacity of our most likely strategic foe to control the Canal in the event of a military confrontation thanks to this law. China can prohibit America's ability to act effectively, whether acting on its own behalf in taking Taiwan, or on behalf of any other hostile power with which it might seek to ally to advance its strategic ambitions, e.g., Iran moving in the Persian Gulf or North Korea advancing across the 38th Parallel. To correct such action would require military force by the U.S. with a high cost in American lives. This threat is not remote in time nor geographic distance; it exists today and is not a function of further development of technology by the Communist Chinese. It is "low tech" and all the more effective for being so. The administration saw fit to have its ambassador to Panama, former Rep. William Hughes, D-NJ, criticize my testimony and seek to undermine it. Why did an American administration take such steps to prevent the correction of such an obvious breach of our national security? Given the "two ocean" strategy which we have relied upon since the Panama Canal was built and our present reliance upon "forward deployment" within that strategy, this amounts to resisting examination of a strategic vulnerability which makes our entire present defense planning inoperable at the will of China. It is as if, during the Revolution, Benedict Arnold had quietly been allowed to give the British access to West Point so as to enable their army to divide the country in half at their whim and an experienced commander raising the issue of the foolishness of such a breach was opposed for attempting to point out the folly. Ambassador Hughes opened his remarks by criticizing my testimony about the danger posed by the Chinese Communist control of ports at the ends of the Canal. He did so by attempting to distinguish the ports from the Canal, as if a ship could use the Canal without using the ports and their anchorages. He thus sought to avoid the point of my comments and to assuage fears about the administration's tactical assistance in turning those ports, and their anchorages, over to commercial interests that are closely allied with and,
[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] OKC-(PSYOPs) Operation For The New POLICE STATE!
[ I was told by one of the mind bomb experts from the UK, not to worry about the future it was all taken care of??? He was sent here to help the good people of OKC cope with the lies and cover-up. If you thought there was a cover-up your must need medication and Pro. Help. I am a earwitness to the bombs, yes bombs I heard two different events one about 5 or 6 sec. after the other, then a long rumble of debries falling. Then the police scanner went nuts and the rest is history. (NOT) --- fao : BBC Newsroom : Foreign Desk. Private Eye Amnesty (UK) NY Times. The original "evidence" was "tainted by the FBI". So the UK then provided the only squeaky clean "expert" for the McVeigh Denver trial. Of course, if what follows is to be believed, the Home Office, (the explosion experts of the UK) have then cooperated with a politicised FBI, way beyond the "call of duty" and well beyond what could be termed as the "explosive truth". *** FBI expert had different opinion in Oklahoma case DENVER (Reuters) - If a controversial former FBI chemist had been allowed to testify at the Oklahoma City bombing trial he would have disputed government witnesses on the cause of the blast, according to a court document unsealed Thursday. A judge unsealed the document so defense attorneys for Terry Nichols can use it to appeal his life sentence for conspiracy to bomb the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in 1995 that killed 168 people. Judge Richard Matsch did not allow chemist Frederic Whitehurst to testify. If he had testified he would have rebutted conclusions of two major witnesses that the explosion was caused by an ammonium-nitrate based bomb, Nichols' lawyer said. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2556842191-525 -- Anyone seen "Andy"?- German (miltary intelligence) citzen, and Elohim City resident Andreas Strassmeir, son of politician Gunther is still (after hanging out in Dublin witb the IRA) at large, in Europe and unquestion? "" A German national, the 38-year-old Strassmeir is the son of Guenter Strassmeir, former Secretary of State to Berlin, and a top aid to German Chancellor Helmut Kohl. (Andreas Strassmeir's uncle is in the German parliament and a brother sits on the Berlin City Council.) .Strassmeir's father was also reported to have worked for the CIA. The younger Strassmeir served as a lieutenant in the German Panzer Grenadiers (the equivalent of US Special Forces), had military intelligence training, and did a stint as a liaison officer with the Welsh Guards. He told the London Sunday Telegraph that part of his work was to detect infiltration by Warsaw Pact agents, and then feed them disinformation. While Strassmeir would not admit it, it is reported that he is an agent for the German national anti-terrorist police, the GSG-9.* "Andy the German," as he became known, arrived in the U.S. in May of 1991, and then lived illegally in the country for some considerable time."" ** MINDCONTROL-L Mind Control and Psyops Mailing List To unsubscribe or subscribe: send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text: "unsubscribe MINDCONTROL-L" or "subscribe MINDCONTROL-L". Post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wes Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED], list moderator
[CTRL] FWD: CBS News reports Air Force Guard Top Guns Refuse Anthrax Vaccine
-Caveat Lector- Sunday, 1.31.99 -- CBS News reports about several "Top Gun" Air Force reservists who are refusing to get vaccinated for anthrax. Their unit, along with millions of other U.S. soldiers, especially those doing stints in Iraq, have been getting vaccinated due to concerns of chemical warfare. The report, airing on CBS only (ABC News broadcast mentioned nothing), had a news reporter interviewing 5 -6 reserve officers who have refused to get vaccinated for anthrax. The pilots say that the vaccine "will do more harm than good," and that while they "love to fly," they refuse to get stuck with a needle the DoD says contains vaccine for anthrax. Why are they refusing? The CBS report maintains it's because of an Internet web site where a doctor has posted medical information supporting their claims that the vaccine is harmful. The DoD says there's no justifiable reason for their refusal, and will ground them unless they agree to being vaccinated. Bad rap for the Net? Is the doc a wacko? Will they get court-martialed? Have they really gone off the deep end? --snip Anyone have the URL? I saw the report too and the picture of the computer screen aired during the report was too small to read the URL. -A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] FWD: CBS News reports Air Force Guard Top Guns Refuse ...
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-01-31 21:05:48 EST, you write: Bad rap for the Net? Is the doc a wacko? Will they get court-martialed? Have they really gone off the deep end? --snip Anyone have the URL? I saw the report too and the picture of the computer screen aired during the report was too small to read the URL. -A I've recently read a lot on the web about vaccines. Here's one url whcih may be a good starting point for general information: http://pages.prodigy.com/gval/facvac.htm Things I've learned on the web and in print have made me deeply concerned about general vaccine safety. Samantha DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Awakening the Centers - The Prophets Conference
- SNETNEWS Mailing List The Prophets Conference Tulum - Chichen Itza - Coba - Yucatan Playa del Carmen on the magnificent Caribbean coast of Mexico Spring Equinox -March 15-22, 1999 Called for by the Mayan Calendar Hosted by Maya Mysteries School K'u-Kuul-Kaan Academy __ A good many of you requesting information or registering for this coming Caribbean Prophets Conference are telling us that you feel as if you are being 'called' to participate in the sacred spring equinox ceremonies at the Mayan sacred sites - Tulum, Chichen Itza, and Coba. Prophets Conference host Mayan Elder Hunbatz Men, in the following excerpt, brings us clarity toward the understanding of this 'calling' going out to the planet from these ancient sacred sites. -Cody http://www.greatmystery.org/conference.html _ Elder Hunbatz Men of the Maya tradition - Awakening the Centers Excerpted from "Profiles In Wisdom: Native Elders Speak About The Earth" by Steven McFadden "For the Maya," Hunbatz teaches, "it is the new age-time to give away the knowledge again, to raise the frequency of the global mind. Now the world has a dark civilization, a dark culture. We need to reestablish a high culture." One important part of doing this, according to Hunbatz, is reopening the Mayan initiatic centers, the temples and pyramids of the Yucatan, Guatemala, and Honduras. "As foretold in the Mayan sacred calendars," Hunbatz says, "now is the time to reconsecrate the sacred pyramids and temples, and all the other sacred sites of the Americas. In so doing, we can help bring about the respiritualization of the people and the healing of the Earth. Pilgrimages to the magnetic center of Mayan lands are necessary to assist in the enlightenment of the human race." According to Hunbatz, the magnetic energy of the Earth and the cosmos flows more fluidly in sacred sites. When humans make ceremony there, it helps the energy to flow even better. Hunbatz works not only with the Maya, but also with native people all over the Americas-North and South. "Most of the elders," he says, "know about this-that it is time to reopen the old centers, to go there with respect, and to begin to receive information." "We must reopen these places where the knowledge of the great mysteries is deposited," Hunbatz urges, "because the spirits of the ancient teachers are awaiting the new mind of humanity in order that these sacred places might be revived and indicate the correct path to humanity." The pyramids of Mesoamerica are not tombs, Hunbatz explains, but places to work with other dimensions of consciousness, places to understand time. The Mayan word for the pyramids is k'u-part of the name of God, Hunab K'u. "We go to the pyramids because the energy flow in there makes for a different vibration. We can use this to help make subtle changes in the frequency of our brain waves. In there we can make a connection with the magnetic forces of the Earth and the cosmos. The geometrical form of the pyramids helps people to transform themselves, to raise their consciousness by raising the frequency of their brain waves. We hope something big is going to happen because of these ceremonies and all the other sacred activities around the world-that the frequency of the modern mind is going to change in a positive way. "Now, I invite people to come and reopen the sacred centers. When thousands of people work like this, it will change the mind of all-even those who do not believe. You can't save the Earth by dictating laws-no one believes or cares. They will keep doing what they are doing to make money. We must change the frequency of the human mind." You are invited, and in many cases called, to join the exceptional faculty of The Prophets Conference~Tulum/Caribbean during the powerful and highly significant spring equinox, March 15-22, 1999. This unparalleled event is considered by many to be the constantly manifesting edge of ideas, bringing together Mayan Elder Hunbatz Men, Bob Frissell, Hyemeyohsts Storm, James Twyman, Aluna Joy Yaxk'in, Hank Wesselman, Ph.D., Serge Kahili King, Ph.D., Ilona Selke, Swan Storm, Mayan Master Miguel Angel Calleros, and Mary Lightning Locke. Sacred ceremony will be conducted by these presenters, along with the teachers from the Maya Mysteries School and K'u-Kuul-Kaan Academy. The conference takes place at the sacred Mayan sites of Tulum, Chichen Itza, Coba, and Playa del Carmen on the beautiful Caribbean coast of Mexico. Mayan sacred site ceremony; the highest quality of information; powerful teachings of the North American Native Medicine Wheels; shamanic Huna teachings of Hawaii; interdimensional Merkaba creation; dolphin communication and knowledge; future visions of Mother Earth; and the messages from the Emissaries Of Light, all come together March 15-22 to create a
[CTRL] TRAGEDY AND HOPE Chapter XVII-XVIII [b]
-Caveat Lector- from LETS digest 28 - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K --[b]-- Page 956 Jerome Green is a symbol of much more than the Wall Street influence in the IPR. He is also a symbol of the relationship between the financial circles of London and those of the eastern U.S. which reflects one of the most powerful influences in 20th century American and world history. The two ends of this English-speaking axis have sometimes been called, perhaps facetiously, the English and American Establishments. There is, however, a considerable degree of truth behind the joke, a truth which reflects a very real power structure. It is this power structure which the Radical Right in the U.S. has been attacking for years in the belief they are attacking the Communists. These misdirected attacks did much to confuse the American people in 1948-1955. By 1953 most of these attacks had run their course. The American people, thoroughly bewildered at the widespread charges of twenty years of treason and subversion, had rejected the Democrats and put into the White House a war hero, Eisenhower. At the time,two events, one public and one secret, were still in process. The public one was the Korean War; the secret one was the race for the thermonuclear bomb. CHAPTER XVIII: NUCLEAR RIVALRY AND COLD WAR, RACE FOR THE H-BOMB 1950-1957 Page 965 On March 1, 1954, we exploded our first real thermonuclear bomb at Bikini atoll. It was a horrifying device which spread death-dealing radioactive contamination over more than 8,000 square miles and injurious radiation over much of the world. Page 968 To prepare public opinion to accept use of the H-bomb, if it became necessary, Strauss sponsored a study of radioactive fallout whose conclusion was prejudged by calling it "Project Sunshine." By selective release of some evidence and strict secrecy of other information, they tried to establish in public opinion that there was no real danger to anyone from nuclear fallout even in all-out nuclear war. This gave rise to controversy between the scientists and the Administration on the danger of fallout. The Eisenhower through the Dulles doctrine of "massive retaliation" was so deeply committed to nuclear war that it could not permit the growth of public opinion which would refuse to accept the use of nuclear weapons because of objections to the danger of fallout to neutrals and non-combatants. By 1953, this struggle became so intense that supporters of massive retaliation decided they must destroy the public image and public career of Oppenheimer. THE KOREAN WAR AND ITS AFTERMATH, 1950-1954 Page 970 The emphasis on nuclear retaliation to Communist aggression anywhere in the world made it necessary to draw a defence perimeter over which such aggression would trigger retaliation. At the insistence of MacArthur, that perimeter was drawn to exclude Korea, Formosa and Mainland China; accordingly, all American forces had been evacuated from South Korea in June 1949. Page 971 The Soviet Union interpreted this to mean that the U.S. would allow South Korea to be conquered by the North. Instead, when Russia, through its satellite North Korea, sought to take Korea, this game rise to an American counteraction. Page 972 For forty-eight hours after the Korean attack, the world hesitated, awaiting America's reaction. Truman immediately committed American air and sea forces in the area south of 38 degrees and demanded a UN condemnation of the aggression. Thus, for the first time in history, a world organization voted to use collective force to stop armed aggression. This was possible because the North Korean attack occurred at a time when the Soviet delegation was absent from the UN Security Council, boycotting it as a protest at the presence of the delegation from Nationalist China. Accordingly, the much-used Soviet veto was unavailable. Page 974 The frontier was reached by UN forces as the month ended. The Red Chinese decision to intervene was made nine days after American troops crossed the 38th parallel into North Korea. It was inevitable as Red China could hardly be expected to allow the buffer North Korean state to be destroyed and American troops to occupy the line of the Yalu. As soon as it became clear that American forces would continue past the 38th parallel to the Yalu, the Chinese intervened, not to restore the 38th parallel frontier but to clear the U.N. forces from Asia completely. Page 975 The Truman Administration, after the victory at Inchon, did not intend to stop at the 38th parallel and hoped to reunite the country under the Seoul government. It is probable that this alone triggered the Chinese intervention. On October 9, 1950, two of MacArthur's planes attacked a Russian air base sixty-two miles inside Russian territory. Page 977 After Truman removed MacArthur, Republican leaders spoke publicly of impeaching the President. Senator William Jenner said: This country today is
[CTRL] TRAGEDY AND HOPE chapter XIX-XX [b]
-Caveat Lector- from LETS digest 28 - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K --[b]-- THE ECLIPSE OF COLONIALISM Page 1178 The massive economic mobilization for World War II showed clearly that there could be an equally massive post-war mobilization of resources for prosperity. Page 1184 It is usually not recognized that the whole economic expansion of Western society rests upon a number of psychological attitudes that are prerequisites to the system as we have it but are not often stated explicitly. Two of these may be identified as: 1) future preference and 2) infinitely expandable material demand. In a sense, these are contradictory since the former implies that Western economic man will make almost any sacrifice in the present for the same of some hypothetical benefit in the future while the latter implies almost insatiable demand in the present. Nonetheless, both are essential features of the overwhelming Western economic system. Future preference came out of the Christian outlook and especially the Puritan tradition which was prepared to accept almost any kind of sacrifice in the temporal world for the sake of future eternal salvation, willing to restrict their enjoyment of income for the sake of capital accumulation. The mass production of this new industrial system was able to continue and to accelerate to the fantastic rate of the 20th century so that today, the average middle-class family of suburbia has a schedule of future material demands which is limitless. Without these two psychological assumptions, the Western economy would break down or would never have started. At present, future preference may be breaking down and infinitely expanding material demand may soon follow it in the weakening process. If so, the American economy will collapse unless it finds new psychological foundations. Page 1187 In Asia, as is traditional along the Pakistani-Peruvian axis, the structure of societies had been one in which a coalition of army, bureaucracy, landlords, and moneylenders have exploited a great mass of peasants by extortion of taxes, rents, low wages, and high interest rates in a system of such persistence that its basic structure goes back to the Bronze Age empires before 1000 B.C. CHAPTER XX: TRAGEDY AND HOPE, THE FUTURE IN PERSPECTIVE THE UNFOLDING OF TIME Page 1200 Weapons will continue to be expensive and complex. This means that they will increasingly be the tools of professionalized, if not mercenary, forces. All of past history shows that the shift from a mass army of citizen-soldiers to a smaller army of professional fighters leads, in the long run, to a decline of democracy. Page 1204 When Khrushchev renounced the use of both nuclear war and conventional violence, and promised to defeat the West by peaceful competition, he was convinced that the Soviet Union could out-perform the U.S. because it could, in his opinion, overcome the American lead in the race for economic development that the Socialist way of life would become the model for emulation by the uncommitted nations. Page 1213 In other economies, when additional demands are presented to the economy, less resources are available for alternative uses. But in the American system, as it now stands, additional new demands usually lead to increased resources becoming available for alternative purposes, notably consumption. Thus if the Soviet Union embraced a substantial increase in space activity, the resources available for raising Russian levels of consumption would be reduced while in America, any increases in the space budget makes levels of consumption also rise. Page 1214 It does this because increased space expenditures provide purchasing power for consumption that makes available previously unused resources out of the unused American productive capacity. This unused capacity exists in the American economy because the structure of our economic system is such that it channels flows of funds into the production of additional capacity (investment) without any conscious planning process or any real desire by anyone to increase our productive capacity. It does this because certain institutions in our system (such as insurance, retirement funds,social security payments, undistributed corporate profits and such) and certain individuals who personally profit by the flow of funds not theirs into investment continue to operate to increase investment even when they have no real desire to increase productive capacity (and indeed many decry it). In the Soviet Union, on the contrary, resources are allotted to the increase of productive capacity by a conscious planning process and at the cost of reducing the resources available in their system for consumption or for the government (largely defence). Thus the meaning of "costs" and the limitations on ability to mobilize economic resources are entirely different in our system from the Soviet system and most others. In the
Re: [CTRL] A bill has been introduced to Repeal Term limitations forthePresident
-Caveat Lector- If everyone has a "computer fingerprint" sort of speaking, why couldn't the american citizen vote via computer on these bills that our representatives do not even seem to have time to read? With all the technology we have today, people can order just about anything by computer, send in their I.D. to confirm their identity, and bingo, their merchandise is on the way to their house. Now I ask you, why, in a nation that has such technology couldn't a simple vote through the computer be possible ? I realize the technology is available to insure that tampering with the votes could be impossible, and of course anyone found guilty of voter fraud would be punished severly, say 10 to 20 years in jail without chance of parole. I would think that a voter result printout could confirm everyones vote was registered as it was intended also. This computer vote casting ,(cvc), could be used on all house and senate bills, as well as replacing the over abused presidential decision directives which have virtually put america at the mercy of the president of the U.S. I do not believe citizens should sit back any longer and use their computer to send messeges to friends telling each other of another bill that ensnares america. But instead, let's unite, and do what our representatives were sent to Washington to do. Keep America of the people, by the people, and FOR THE PEOPLEharry ( aka H. O. Nesty ) -- From: J FROST [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] A bill has been introduced to Repeal Term limitations forthePresident Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 7:43 PM -Caveat Lector- We need to find out what the status of this bill is. the bill is: H.J. Res 17 /// Then what, send post back and forth to others. Send faxes to politicians. What people need to do is to join their forces together to DO SOMETHING other than "finding out things" and passing each other little notes. Look at the list of things people have "found out" or revealed on all the newsletters you have read. So what, what has anyone did about anythng? We need to find out what the status of this bill is. Why? . DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
