Re: [CTRL] I Was Albright's First Love

[Colleen Jones]

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Will nothing rid us of this meddlesome woman

Colleen (borrowed from Shakespeare who new a shrew when he saw one)

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Re: [CTRL] "The First Casualty"

[Colleen Jones]

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I must add with regard to the word "propaganda"; when I was going after
Jeanne Dixon for marking the Kennedy family for murder, over and over
again, by what a major newspaper described as "divine revelations" in a
story - lead headline story on the front page of thieir newspaper, I
looked up the word "prophecy"...and the word prophecy means
propagandathe same meaning.

That is why the old King said in the bible "did I not tell you he would
prophecy no good to me, but only evil"..and Churchill and Hitler,
with their propaganda relied a lot of the so called "prophecies" of
Nostradamus.both Hitler and Churchill had their astrologers working
overtime too, and Sybil Leek, my old friend, was one of them

If we want to enter religion in this - you are told to test the
prophets..a propagandist spreads rumor and seeds of destruction
directed at the enemythe USA right now, if they are serious about
this police action as they call it because it cannot legally be a war,
they better hire a Minister of Propagandacan't think of anyone
better than CNN - or are they already on the payroll.

I must add, during the Persian Gulf - the one commentator (not Wolfe)
reminded America they were going to tell it like it was, and not take
sides..this way the enemy let them sit in a fancy hotel while the
bombs burst in air.smartest thing theg Serbs did was to kick them
all out.   If CNN's idea of a good evening of entertainment is to bring
you a war, where people are blown out of existance - well, this whole
country is sick for permitting it.

Colleen

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[CTRL] War Coverage to Die For

[philately]

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Over 20 imbedded links in this article's webpage...


from:
http://www.free-market.net/features/spotlight/media/balkans.html">FMN: Media 
Spotlight,
May-June 1999, War in the Balkans


Media Spotlight
by J.D. Tuccille


War Coverage to Die For
April 15, 1999


As the Balkan War was heating up, the BBC,
that eminence grise of British talking-head-ism,
ran an article called "US press backs strikes."
The premise of the piece was that American news
outlets were cheerleading NATO's aerial tour of
Yugoslavia and pushing for blood and iron in a
way not seen since a newspaper circulation war
in 1898 turned a mysterious accident aboard a
battleship into the demise of the Spanish empire.
In particular, the Beeb singled out The New York
Times, The Washington Post, and the Miami Herald
for their hawkish drumbeating.

Although its point is well taken, the BBC's
choice of news outlets is probably a sign of
an old-fashioned fixation with musty newsprint.
The real drumbeater among American news
organizations is CNN, which made its name
with the Gulf War and seems dead-set on
holding that reputation -- while dodging
any repeat of the charges of insufficient
patriotism with which it was hit during
the Iraqi fireworks.

In fact, CNN's coverage was singled out
for criticism in an opinion piece published
in the Australian Financial Review. That
column referred to the cable operation's
coverage as "emotionalism now masquerading
as news" and focused on the widespread
failure to look at the underdog KLA's
rather spotty qualifications for anointment
as the democratic world's chosen champion
in the spat between "bad" Serbs and "good"
Kosovar Albanians.

A look at CNN's Web site bears out that
assessment. The lead story is usually the
latest atrocity committed by the minions
of the Butcher of Belgrade, there's a
prominent link to a gee-whiz "military
databank" info sheet on all the cool
things-that-go-bang involved in the war
(sorted by country), as well as a Strike
at a Glance breakdown of what those cool
weapons have been blowing up.

Of course, this could be characterized as
nothing more than thorough coverage, but
there's an unseemly video-game air to the
whole presentation.

The Washington Post, on the other hand,
though singled out by the BBC for its
hawkish stance, has done a comparatively
good job of keeping its cheerleading to
the editorial page. The paper does give
significant coverage to Serb atrocities,
but that's only fair, since the Serb
government is competing flat-out for
the "Huns and Vandals of the 1990s"
award. The Post was also the scene of
the already infamous "U.S. Miscalculations
Traced to Albright" headline that seemed
to give the commander-in-chief a pass
on any booboos.

Beyond that, though, the Post has refrained
from treating NATO strikes as if they were
bloodless surgical procedures against Yugoslav
President Milosevic and his military; the
death of 11 innocent civilians and destruction
of homes and businesses in one bombing raid
gone awry made headlines (even if on page A16).
That story quoted a woman whose home was
destroyed as calling Clinton "worse than
the Nazis."

The New York Times has also done a credible
job of balancing discussion of the horrors
visited upon the Kosovars by Serbs with a
look at the long-standing ethnic and religious
minefield that NATO is strolling across.
That's in pleasant contrast to the more-bombs-now
stance favored by the editors.

To its credit, The Washington Post was relatively
early to ask what would happen if the bombing didn't
work and to report that President Clinton appeared
unprepared for such an eventuality. That was a timely
question to ask, since the Post also reported that
Milosevic's political opponents seemed to be rallying
around the dictator in response to the hail of
explosives rained on their heads by foreign forces.

But what of political opposition in the NATO countries?

Reports of protests and opposition are hard to
come by in U.S. news outlets -- which has made
the news itself. MSNBC went so far as to say
that the anti-war movement is "missing in action"
and that "[f]ormer doves have defected to become
hawks" -- at least on the traditionally pacifistic
political left. The New York Times, in its familiar
gray-lady way, said that most American college
students had their heads too far up their butts
to know what to do about the war.

Fox News covered the opposition of some conservatives
to the Balkan War, but in the context of disarray
in Republican ranks over how to address the issue
in the lead-up to the next election. H.
How does flattening cities play in Iowa?

Such coverage might lead observers to believe
that there's no significant U.S. opposition to
NATO's adventure in the Balkans, which would be
curious since Agence France Presse reported that
American public support for the bombings was
holding at a whopping 51 percent, a figure
confirmed by Reuters. Given Americans' usual
tendency to rally 'round the fla

Re: [CTRL] "The First Casualty"

[philately]

 -Caveat Lector-

flw wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> "The committee had not personally interviewed a single witness. The report
> was based on 1,200 depositions mostly from refugees, taken by 22 barristers
> from Britain. None of the witnesses were placed on oath, their names were
> omitted (to prevent reprisals against their relatives), and hearsay
> evidence was accepted at full face value...[Later] a commission of inquiry
> ...failed markedly to corroborate a single major allegation on the report"
>
> . -- Phillip Nightly in "The First Casualty" describing how Britain used
> refugees to manufacture atrocity stories in order to bring the US into World
> War I
> flw


The first World War was the first time there was
highly organized state propaganda. The British had
a Ministry of Information, and they really needed
it because they had to get the U.S. into the war
or else they were in bad trouble. The Ministry of
Information was mainly geared to sending propaganda,
including huge fabrications about "Hun" atrocities,
and so on. They were targeting American intellectuals
on the reasonable assumption that these are the people
who are most gullible and most likely to believe
propaganda. They are also the ones that disseminate
it through their own system. So it was mostly geared
to American intellectuals and it worked very well.
The British Ministry of Information documents (a lot
have been released) show their goal was, as they put
it, to control the thought of the entire world, a
minor goal, but mainly the U.S. They didn’t care
much what people thought in India. This Ministry
of Information was extremely successful in deluding
hot shot American intellectuals into accepting
British propaganda fabrications. They were very
proud of that. Properly so, it saved their lives.
They would have lost the first World War otherwise.

In the U.S., there was a counterpart. Woodrow Wilson
was elected in 1916 on an anti-war platform. The U.S.
was a very pacifist country. It has always been. People
don’t want to go fight foreign wars. The country was
very much opposed to the first World War and Wilson
was, in fact, elected on an anti-war position.
"Peace without victory" was the slogan. But he
was intending to go to war. So the question was,
how do you get the pacifist population to become
raving anti-German lunatics so they want to go
kill all the Germans? That requires propaganda.
So they set up the first and really only major
state propaganda agency in U.S. history. The
Committee on Public Information it was called
(nice Orwellian title), called also the Creel
Commission. The guy who ran it was named Creel.
The task of this commission was to propagandize
the population into a jingoist hysteria. It worked
incredibly well. Within a few months there was
a raving war hysteria and the U.S. was able to
go to war.

A lot of people were impressed by these achievements.
One person impressed, and this had some implications
for the future, was Hitler. If you read Mein Kampf,
he concludes, with some justification, that Germany
lost the first World War because it lost the propaganda
battle. They could not begin to compete with British
and American propaganda which absolutely overwhelmed
them. He pledges that next time around they’ll have
their own propaganda system, which they did during
the second World War. More important for us, the
American business community was also very impressed
with the propaganda effort. They had a problem at
that time. The country was becoming formally more
democratic. A lot more people were able to vote
and that sort of thing. The country was becoming
wealthier and more people could participate and
a lot of new immigrants were coming in, and so on.

So what do you do? It’s going to be harder to run
things as a private club. Therefore, obviously, you
have to control what people think. There had been
public relation specialists but there was never a
public relations industry. There was a guy hired
to make Rockefeller’s image look prettier and that
sort of thing. But this huge public relations industry,
which is a U.S. invention and a monstrous industry,
came out of the first World War. The leading figures
were people in the Creel Commission. In fact, the
main one, Edward Bernays, comes right out of the
Creel Commission. He has a book that came out right
afterwards called Propaganda. The term "propaganda,"
incidentally, 

Re: [CTRL] TWA 800 wrong target

[Rich Zaengle]

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--

On Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:45:08   David Crockett Williams wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
>From: Gary Vesperman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Subject: Finally, a motive for shooting down TWA 800
>Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 11:25 AM
>
>(Now, from a researcher and writer of advanced technologies,
>comes his report on the probable motive for shooting down
>TWA 800. Gary)
>
>Gary:
>
>I've been collecting information about this event since the day it
>happened.  A serious mistake most conspiracy theorists make about this
>event is the assumption that TWA 800 was either an accidental target of
>a FUBAR missile test or a deliberate target. No one has yet provided any
>information on any of the publicly available resources which tells me
>either of these ideas is correct.  I believe the real answer is to be
>found in the context of the event.
>
>Consider this:
>
>(1)The site at which all particle beam accelerator technologies are
>being developed and tested is the Brookhaven National Laboratories on
>Long Island - parallel to the flight path of TWA 800 and 12 miles
>distant.
>
>(2)The witnesses who reported seeing the "missile tail" almost
>universally reported that the light path was illuminated in a searing
>blue-green color.  No rocket fuel ever employed by US military arsenals
>creates a blue green exhaust stream.
>
>(3)For years, every night three 747's depart from Kennedy on their
>way across the Atlantic.  They are headed for Tel Aviv, Paris and
>London, in that order, within 15 minutes of each other. This flight
>schedule has not varied for more than 7 years. On the night TWA 800 was
>felled from the sky, the Tel Aviv flight was diverted at the last minute
>from its takeoff position - the official report says that the flight
>engineer advised the pilot that he had a red system warning light come
>on just as this plane was about to take off.  Flight 800 was two planes
>behind. When it took off, it was in the airspace which would
>ordinarily have been occupied by the Tel Aviv flight on its normal run.
>
>(4)The flight manifest for the Tel Aviv flight was seized within
>minutes after the downing of TWA 800 - someone was standing at the
>console in the control center with their finger on the button, waiting
>for a signal.  The flight manifest for the Tel Aviv flight has never
>been released - the odds are that it was destroyed and no longer exists.
>
>I believe the real question here is not how TWA 800 was brought out of
>the sky - rather, I believe we should be asking who was aboard the
>aborted Tel Aviv flight.  If we ever get our hands on this manifest, I
>believe we will discover that there were passengers aboard who were
>prominent in the middle east conflict and whose continued presence and
>involvement were in conflict with the agendas of the Clinton
>Admininstration and the intelligence services. My opinion is that the
>Tel Aviv flight was the intended target - TWA 800 just happened on that
>fateful night to be in the wrongest possible place at the worst possible
>time.  We will probably never know the real truth about this event - but
>I believe it is the sign of a healthy society that so many people are
>asking so many really tough questions.
>
>
>   U
>
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So you're saying the Navy didn't shoot it down?


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[CTRL] What Budget Surplus? Fraudulent Accounting Practices

[David Crockett Williams]

 -Caveat Lector-

One of those emails I received that has "slipped through the cracks" was one
I received a couple of months ago and kept meaning to send out with a
commentary but never got around to it and now can't find it.  Perhaps
someone can verify exact details.

The gist of the story is that Barrons financial magazine, I believe, was
quoted as publishing the Federal deficit for each of the last two years and
the cumulative annual Federal deficit increased by something on the order of
$300 billion I believe.

What is the point?  The much ballyhooed 1999 "Federal Budget Surplus" is a
fraud perpetrated by a change in accounting procedures completely unreported
in the mainstream media whereby all of a sudden without any public
indication of what was happening, the money that normally goes into social
security was reallocated as part of the federal budget.  Then the actual
annual deficit was subtracted from this amount and the balance was renamed
the "budget surplus" and all this talk about how it should be spent "to save
social security", etc., is a big con job because we are talking about an
amount of money in fact equal to what was previously allocated to social
security, LESS the actual last annual DEFICIT in the Federal budget.

Now if my understanding is correct here, wouldn't this be quite a scandal
with the media complicit in this coverup of the truth?  That is:  There is
no budget surplus, only a change in accounting and nominclature to fool the
people!   wouldn't any accounting firm be censured and any company fined for
using such deception in fiscal reporting?

Now they are talking about "oh well , looks like we will have to use some of
this budget surplus to pay for the war in Kosovo".   This is in reality then
the money that under last year's accounting vocabulary was the normal
deposit to the social security program being used instead to fight a war.
What do you think the vote would have been if people were asked, "shall we
take money from the social security budget and use it to bomb a bunch of
folks in Europe?"

This is such a outright fraud on the American people that it amazes me
almost as much as the history behind how the most valuable plant in human
history, the hemp plant, has been fraudulently outlawed as marijuana,
expunged from the historical record, and the government and media are still
complicit in this parallel historical fraud on the American people and
Congress.  (see http://www.jackherer.com)

I hope that my posting this poor excuse for the original email with the
exact source of the deficit numbers will at least suffice to inspire someone
to find the proper numbers and sources to verify this easy to confirm or
refute thesis that I have faithfully depicted above, i.e.,

The "Federal Budget Surplus" is a Fraud

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[CTRL] Unusual book

[Gerry Forbes]

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Of course these days when they screw with the virgin queen
they're hoping for a kid named Oscar.


 Forwarded message 
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:29:47 -0500
From: "Hardy M. Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SHK 10.0512  Re: THINKING, Feeling and Meaning, and Writing


[3]-
From:   Peter Groves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:52:55 +1100
Subject:Re: SHK 10.0493 Re: Acting, Feeling and Meaning, and Writing

>The matter of being "well educated" depends on how you define that
>term.  No, he didn't go to university, but from what evidence exists of
>grammar schools, such as the one in Stratford, I doubt that many of my
>current crop of undergraduates would have been able to hack it in that
>educational environment.  Also, like many other intelligent people, then
>and now, Shakespeare seems to have read widely (as has been noted in
>some other recent postings).  Reading need not occur only in the
>classroom.

Well said.  Incidentally, it is sometimes argued (more in the spirit of
a lawyer than a scholar) that no records survive of Shakespeare's
attendance at the grammar school, but the fact is that no records
survive of anyone's attendance there in that period.

>And about whether there would be an authorship question...you're
>probably right.  No one argues about whether Marlowe or Sidney wrote
>those works which have been attributed to them.  Or maybe they do and I
>just am not aware of it?  Information, anyone?
>
>Karen Peterson-Kranz
>University of Guam

I once came across (in Cambridge University Library, which allows you to
browse its collection, unlike the Bodleian) a book called (I think) *The
Rosicrucians*, by someone called Olive Wagner Driver, which argued (?)
that all Elizabethan literary works of any note (with the sole exception
of Jonson's) were produced by a cabal of noblemen, all illegitimate sons
of Queen Elizabeth.  The _Faerie Queene_, for example, was the work of
Leicester, her sixth son.  The book, I suspect, was 'donated by the
author'-still, there's nothing like a little Looney-ness to brighten
one's day.

Peter Groves,
Department of English,
Monash University

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[CTRL] TWA 800 wrong target

[David Crockett Williams]

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From: Gary Vesperman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Finally, a motive for shooting down TWA 800
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 11:25 AM

(Now, from a researcher and writer of advanced technologies,
comes his report on the probable motive for shooting down
TWA 800. Gary)

Gary:

I've been collecting information about this event since the day it
happened.  A serious mistake most conspiracy theorists make about this
event is the assumption that TWA 800 was either an accidental target of
a FUBAR missile test or a deliberate target. No one has yet provided any
information on any of the publicly available resources which tells me
either of these ideas is correct.  I believe the real answer is to be
found in the context of the event.

Consider this:

(1)The site at which all particle beam accelerator technologies are
being developed and tested is the Brookhaven National Laboratories on
Long Island - parallel to the flight path of TWA 800 and 12 miles
distant.

(2)The witnesses who reported seeing the "missile tail" almost
universally reported that the light path was illuminated in a searing
blue-green color.  No rocket fuel ever employed by US military arsenals
creates a blue green exhaust stream.

(3)For years, every night three 747's depart from Kennedy on their
way across the Atlantic.  They are headed for Tel Aviv, Paris and
London, in that order, within 15 minutes of each other. This flight
schedule has not varied for more than 7 years. On the night TWA 800 was
felled from the sky, the Tel Aviv flight was diverted at the last minute
from its takeoff position - the official report says that the flight
engineer advised the pilot that he had a red system warning light come
on just as this plane was about to take off.  Flight 800 was two planes
behind. When it took off, it was in the airspace which would
ordinarily have been occupied by the Tel Aviv flight on its normal run.

(4)The flight manifest for the Tel Aviv flight was seized within
minutes after the downing of TWA 800 - someone was standing at the
console in the control center with their finger on the button, waiting
for a signal.  The flight manifest for the Tel Aviv flight has never
been released - the odds are that it was destroyed and no longer exists.

I believe the real question here is not how TWA 800 was brought out of
the sky - rather, I believe we should be asking who was aboard the
aborted Tel Aviv flight.  If we ever get our hands on this manifest, I
believe we will discover that there were passengers aboard who were
prominent in the middle east conflict and whose continued presence and
involvement were in conflict with the agendas of the Clinton
Admininstration and the intelligence services. My opinion is that the
Tel Aviv flight was the intended target - TWA 800 just happened on that
fateful night to be in the wrongest possible place at the worst possible
time.  We will probably never know the real truth about this event - but
I believe it is the sign of a healthy society that so many people are
asking so many really tough questions.


 ÿ U

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[CTRL] I Was Albright's First Love

[flw]

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Unrequited love?
flw

South China Morning Post 4/17/99
I Was Albright's First Love: Serb

REUTERS in Nicosia

US Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, fleeing Nazi persecution as a
small child during World War II, was reportedly sheltered by a Serbian
family in Yugoslavia.

Ljutko Popic, a Serb from the village of Vrinjetska Banja who produced
photographs said to be of the Czech-born Ms Albright as a child, told his
story to a visiting Greek-Cypriot journalist last week.

An article in To Periodiko yesterday said Mr Popic claimed he was Ms
Albright's "first love" and said he could not understand why US planes were
now bombing his village.

The story was accompanied by old black and white photographs, one of which
shows a small boy and a plump little girl with their arms around each
other.

The pictures were said to have been taken in 1939.

Mr Popic said he was the boy in the picture and the girl was Ms Albright at
age four.

He claimed Ms Albright's Jewish-Czech family took refuge in his village and
stayed at his home.

He had sent a letter asking her to halt the air strikes but had not
received a reply. The report said Vrinjetska Banja was hit in the Nato
bombing raids.

In response, the article says, villagers scrawled a message on an
unexploded Nato bomb saying: "Thank you, Ms Albright, for the presents you
send us in return for our hospitality."









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Re: [CTRL] Autism up 273% in 10 years in Calif. (fwd)

[Liz Schumacher]

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i would really look into who?what organization is doing the diagnosis. Govt
agencies look to survival.
the more you have, the longer you last- then you get to retire and its
someone elses problem
(no foolin)
liz

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[CTRL] Appeal Against Suspension of Moscow Case

[jabriol]

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To the Moscow City Court
 In the civil case concerning the application of the prosecutor of the
Northern Administrative Circuit of Moscow of April 20, 1998,
No. N-7-02/98.
 From the Religious Community of Jehovah's Witnesses in Moscow

LIMITED APPEAL

AGAINST THE RULING FOR SUSPENSION OF THE CASE

By ruling of the Golovinskiy Intermunicipal Court of the city of Moscow of
March 12, 1999, a composite expert study was appointed in the civil case
concerning the application of the prosecutor of the Northern Administrative
Circuit of the city of Moscow for the liquidation of the religious community
of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Moscow and banning its activity, and the case was
suspended pending the completion of an expert study.

We believe this ruling is without grounds and illegal for the following
reasons.

1. A trial on the religious beliefs and the means for their expression
violates the legally protected rights and interests of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

First, the Federal Law “On the Freedom of Conscience and on Religious
Associations”, in particular Article 14, violates Article 9 of the European
Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Basic Freedoms, as well as
Article 28 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, since it allows
for a trial on religious beliefs, and not specific illegal acts of specific
individuals.

Even if it were to be assumed that this Law does not violate Article 9 of
the Convention and Article 28 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation,
then its application in this case should have been excluded, since this is a
trial on the religious beliefs and the means for their expression.

This is confirmed by the fact that the prosecutor’s application and the
subsequent supplement are knowingly unfounded and have no legal subject
matter.

They contain no legally significant facts that relate to the allegations to
be proven in the civil case.

The criminal case (which was handled by the prosecutor’s office of the
Northern Administrative Circuit of the city of Moscow) concerning the very
same evidence on which the application was submitted, was closed four times
on exonerating grounds.

The prosecutor is attempting to retroactively apply the law, referring to
alleged violations of the law that took place before the Federal Law “On the
Freedom of Conscience and on Religious Associations” came into force.

There were no warnings issued or negotiations held for correcting supposed
violations of the law before the application was filed with the court.

The prosecutor has based his accusations on the publications of Jehovah’s
Witnesses, and not on illegal actions of specific officers or members of the
community that have been established in the procedure stipulated by law.

Instead of testifying concerning specific violations by members of the
community, witnesses for the prosecution primarily spoke critically about
the teachings of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

The nature and content of the application demonstrates a blatant disregard
for the Russian Constitution and the European Convention for the Protection
of Human Rights and Basic Freedoms.

Secondly, the subject of the court’s investigation is excerpts from the
religious literature and internal canonical documents of Jehovah’s Witnesses
that are not even published by the community.

Thus, the court is asking secular experts to evaluate the religious beliefs
of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the means for expressing them in the context of a
trial, which is a violation of the rights to freedom of thought, conscience,
and religion, which are guaranteed by Articles 28 and 29 of the Russian
Constitution and Article 9 of the European Convention for the Protection of
Human Rights and Basic Freedoms. According to the September 26, 1996
decision of the European Court of Human Rights in Manoussakis v. Greece,
“the right to freedom of religion excludes any freedom on the part of the
State to act with the goal of determining the legitimacy of religious
beliefs or the means for their public expression.”

Thirdly, the court repeatedly denied individuals (elders and believers of
the religious community of Jehovah’s Witnesses) participation in this case
for the direct defense of their individual rights in Articles 6, 9, 10, 11,
13, 14, and 17 of the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights
and Basic Freedoms, as well as the corresponding freedoms provided for by
the Russian Constitution.

Thus, this trial is a violation of Article 1 of the European Convention for
the Protection of Human Rights and Basic Freedoms, which obligates the
Russian Federation to guarantee the rights and freedoms defined in Section I
of the Convention, since it consists of a trial on religious beliefs, and
not legally significant facts.

It is noteworthy that on March 11, 1999, the European Parliament passed a
resolution “On Respect for Human Rights in Russia”, in which it called of
the Russian government, as well as officials on the central and local le

[CTRL] Serbs dig in for land war

[flw]

 -Caveat Lector-

The Serbs used to terrorize the Nazis by kidnaping a lone German soldier,
cutting
off his face, and hanging him upside down before sunrise near the German
camp.
flw

The Times: 4/16/99
April 17 1999  BALKANS WAR: SCORCHED EARTH

Serbs dig in for land war with history on their side

FROM TOM WALKER IN BREZOVICA

LARGE tracts of southern Kosovo lie abandoned, with houses broken and burnt
and fields untended. Three weeks of Nato bombing has given Serb forces the
lawless vacuum in which to uproot and destroy - in the most Balkan manner -
the Kosovo Liberation Army and the community it fought for.

As hundreds of thousands of Albanians have fled, the Serbs have dug in,
using distinctly low-tech cunning inherited from their partisan ancestors
to counter Nato's sophisticated threat.

During an extended press trip to the now infamous six-mile stretch of death
where Nato mistook refugees for a military convoy, the Yugoslav Army gave
us ample time to view the new Kosovo. Most impressions were gleaned through
a bus window, but the picture was clear.

The Serbs are preparing to fight Nato ground forces, and would rather have
their historically troublesome Albanian neighbours elsewhere - preferably
over the mountains which form Kosovo's natural frontier.

Nowhere is Serb resistance more evident than in the Lepanac Valley,
threading across the southern border of Kosovo and Macedonia, towards the
ski resort of Brezovica. The natural beauty is written into Serb folklore:
it was here that resistance to the Nazis and Italian Fascists was strongest
during the Second World War, and it is here that men reliving the youth of
Tito are ready to spill Nato's blood on the eve of the millennium.

Bereft of its Albanian population, the valley is almost completely
militarised. Beaten up lorries and stolen cars rattle about, filled with
regular Yugoslav Army soldiers and new recruits from the local population
who hardly needed any prompting. Many wear the old, rough woollen khaki
uniforms of their fathers and grandfathers, and all look natural fighters.

Radovan Urosevic, who is in charge of the Serb media centre in Pristina,
told me that his father fought hand-to-hand with the retreating Germans and
Italians and their Albanian collaborators. The Italians, he said, were
captured and kept as cheap labour. Albanians were killed.

In today's Brezovica, blanketed by primroses and walnut blossom, the Serbs
are ready again. Peasant farmers and soldiers are digging into the steep
hillsides. Burning piles of tyres send thick, choking smoke into the sky to
confuse Nato's smart bombs.

Nearby Albanian villages have been emptied. Many of their houses were still
burning yesterday.

The Serbs can hold out for a long time; make no mistake about it.

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[CTRL] FROM A BELGRADE GREEN

[flw]

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FROM A BELGRADE GREEN
Milica Dedijer

~~ I directly urge you to do everything to stop the NATO intervention
against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, because it will not bring peace
and because now it has already brought about the ethnic cleansing in Kosovo
- not only aimed at Albanians, but at Serbs as well. ~~ The actions of NATO
Pact are so wide, that in the first phase they can already be characterized
as absolute war which means the destruction of the cultural, spiritual and
natural lives of millions of people of all our country.

~~ Serbia is one of the greatest sources of underground waters in Europe
and
the contamination will be felt in the whole surrounding area all the way to
the Black Sea. NATO Pact is bombing factories. The workers in the greater
part of our great industrial complexes have decided to make a "living wall"
around their working places. They are not doing this because they are only
defending their country, but also because they have become so impoverished
by the years of sanctions, that the destruction of factories would mean the
condemnation to the unequalled poverty equal to execution. Such poverty
will
soon cause the long lasting crisis in this area, and will become the center
of potential terrorism.

~~ I am pointing out that four national parks were hit - all members of the
international association of national reservations. You have to realize
that
FR Yugoslavia is among 13 of the world's richest bio-diversity countries.
On
the third day, the Avala area was aimed at, where the psychiatric division
of the neuro-psychiatric clinic of Belgrade is situated. The Yugoslav
Cinematheque was also put in danger - one of the richest film archives in
the world, listed among the world cultural heritage. The village of
Gracanica was also shelled: there is situated one of the most important
monasteries of the medieval orthodox culture and the candidate for the
UNESCO heritage list. Numerous civil targets in other cities were hit -
schools, hospitals, the sites considered as the cultural monuments.

~~ I am deeply convinced that I am speaking in the name of all the citizens
of Yugoslavia when I say that we have the capabilities and the political
will to find a solution for the Kosovo and Metohija problem, if we are
allowed to seek this solution together with the Albanians, and if we take
into consideration the fact that all of us have the right to participate in
this solution. All one-sidedness and media manipulation are a part of the
mechanism bringing suffering, destruction and death.

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[CTRL] "The First Casualty"

[flw]

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"The committee had not personally interviewed a single witness. The report
was based on 1,200 depositions mostly from refugees, taken by 22 barristers
from Britain. None of the witnesses were placed on oath, their names were
omitted (to prevent reprisals against their relatives), and hearsay
evidence
was accepted at full face value...[Later] a commission of inquiry ...failed
markedly to corroborate a single major allegation on the report"

. -- Phillip Nightly in "The First Casualty" describing how Britain used
refugees to
manufacture atrocity stories in order to bring the US into World War I
flw

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[CTRL] Autism up 273% in 10 years in Calif. (fwd)

[Lloyd Miller]

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-Original Message-
From: Bill Kingsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 4:17 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Autism up 273% in 10 years in Calif. (fwd)


-Caveat Lector-

Vaccinations, Aspartame, pesticides, Prozac
Whadda ya got?

--- forwarded message ---
From: Muriel Hykes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999
Subject:  [PSYPHY] Autism Report 237% Increase in Cases

See  http://www.dds.ca.gov/new.htm

California Cries "273% Increase in Autism - We Don't Know Why"
Thursday, April 15, 1999

A new state report released today raises troubling questions about
why California's developmental services system is experiencing a
large unexpected increase in the numbers of children with autism,
announced by State Senate President pro Tem John Burton and Senator
Wesley Chesbro, Chair of the Senate Select Committee on
Developmental Disabilities and Mental Health.

"In the past 10 years, California has had a 273% increase in the
number of children with autism who enter the developmental services
system - 1,685 new cases last year alone," Burton said.  "What is
generally considered a rare condition is increasing faster here
than other developmental disabilities.  We need to find out why."

"The number of children with autism greatly exceeds the numbers
you'd expect from traditional incident rates," Chesbro said.
"The findings and conclusions of this report show we need to take
action now to figure out where this increase is coming from, what
the causes of autism are and what we as a state can do."

The Department of Developmental Services report, "Changes in the
Population of Persons with Autism and Pervasive Developmental
Disorders in California's Developmental Services System: 1987-1998"
was released to the Legislature this morning.  While it confirms
the increased incidence, the report does not examine factors
leading to the increase.  The report was required as a result of
legislation developed after parents, human services professionals
and educators expressed concern that they were seeing a dramatic
increase in children with autism.

In addition to special legislative hearings in the issue, Burton
and Chesbro called for funding an independent epidemiological study
to help identify the causes of autism and the factors leading to
California's increase in autism cases.  The Senators suggested that
the  U.C. Davis Medical Investigation of Neurological Disorders
Institute, (M.I.N.D.) would be the appropriate organization to do
the research.

Autism exacts a tremendous cost on children, on families and the
developmental disabilities system," Burton said.  "The system is
getting seven new kids with autism seven days a week.  Is this
because families are coming to California for services?  A change
in diagnostic practices? Something environmental?  We need to get
to the bottom of this and we need to do it right," Chesbro added.

For copies of the report contact Paul Verke a the California
Department of Developmental Services 916 654-1820.  The report
is also on the Department's website:  http://www.dds.ca.gov ,
or will be there by the end of the day.  The contact for the
M.I.N.D. Institute is Carole Gan 916 734-9047


EXCERPTS OF THE REPORT
by Michael McIntire
FEAT Director

If there was ever any doubt about the rise in Autism Incidence,
this will forever dispel it.  Following is an excerpt from a CA
Department of Developmental Services report released today by
state Senator John Burton.

While the 273% increase is quite notable in the face of 50%
increases for other disabilities, it is notable that data for the
13,000+ children in the the early start program for 0 to 3 year
olds was NOT included.  The numbers will also show that the rate
of increase is accelerating at 3% per year.

If you really want to be scared: for the calendar year 1998,
there were 1,685 NEW diagnosis, or 16% of the total population -
in ONE YEAR.

Michael McIntire



excerpt:

Table 1 shows the number and percent change in the number of
persons with autism and other PDDs counted from all four levels of
CDER classification in the 11 years between 1987 and 1998.  The
population of persons with autism increased from 4.85 to 9.37
percent of the total state wide client population.  At the end of
1998 there were 12,780 persons, of all ages, with autism listed on
the CDER.  Autism as a percent of the total client population
nearly doubled.

   Table 1 - Number of Persons with Autism in 1987 and 1998
1987  1998
   Total Client Population 80,483   136,383
   Persons with Autism (Levels 1,2&4)   3,90212,780
   Percent of Total Client Population   4.85% 9.37%

Table 2 presents the total number and percent change between 1987
and 1998 for persons with autism, cerebral palsy, epilepsy and
mental retardation.  To maintain equival

[CTRL] Scotlands main Templar 'players'

[Andrew Hennessey]

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Scottish Knights Templar: Militi Templi Scotia

   ABRIDGED TEMPLAR HISTORY in Scotland

The history of Scottish Templarism is long and complex. Today it is
difficult to decypher between the facts and fiction that is reported in the
Media and in the evergrowing Templar Bookshelf.

This web site has been set up as a guide to one Branch of Scottish
Templarism, namely Militi Templi Scotia or the The Scottish Knights Templar.

The history provided below is not complete. It our Quest as Templars to
find out the Truth, "as Truth is the strongest of All!". In the midst of
all the confusion that has emanated from various books, Militi Templi
Scotia has set its task on finding the evidence of what did happen to the
Order of the Temple in Scotland.


  1118
 The Knights Templar were founded to protect pilgrim routes in the
 Holy Land by Hugh de Payen in the reign of Baldwin II who granted
 quarters in Jerusalem on the site of the Temple of Solomon; hence the
 name Knights of the Temple or Knights Templar. The secular overlord
 was the Count of Champagne with spiritual leadership given by St.
 Bernard of Clairvaux.
  1128
 Council of Troyes under the guidance of St. Bernard of Clairvaux
  1128-9
 Hugues de Payen visits Scotland.
  1147
 Use of the red cross of the Order was initiated.
  1154
 The act of Louis VII King of France in 1154 AD recognising the
Authority of the Grand Master of the Order.
  1274
 Robert the Bruce is born.
  1291
 With the fall of Acre, the Templars found themselves distanced
from the Holy Land and having a fast failing raison de etre.
  1306
 On March 27th, Robert the Bruce is crowned King at Scone.
  1308
 The arrest of Jaques De Molay, the Grand Master of the Temple, by
Philip of France.
  1312
 Following false charges the Order is dissolved by Papal decree and
 subjected to a cruel persecution. However, no Order of Suppression
was
 ever issued in Scotland and Charges against the Order were found "Not
 Proven". Under its excuminicated King, Robert the Bruce, the Nation
 provides a "safe-haven" for fugitive Templars.
  1314
 Legend tells us that fugitive Templars fought at Bruce's side at
Bannockburn on the 24th June, Midsummer's day, the Feast day of John the
Baptist. The Legend also informs us that Bruce creates the Order of Heredom
as a mark of appreciation to the Templar  Knights.
  1315
 Bruce protects the Order and the Temple lands in Scotland.
  1320
 The Signing of the Declaration of Arbroath by Scottish Nobles.
  1329
 King Robert the Bruce dies and is buried in Dunfermline Abbey in
the Kingdom of Fife.
 His tomb becomes a place of special pilgrimage.
  1330
 A group of Scottish Knights try to take Bruce's Heart to the Holy
Land. The group encounters a Moorish Army and after a fierce battle only a
few Knights survive to return to Scotland. The Heart is returned to
Scotland as a mark of respect by the Moors and it is claimed that the Heart
is buried in a casket in Melrose Abbey.
  1398
 Earl Henry Sinclair voyages from Orkney to Nova Scotia using
acquired Templar  knowledge in navigation and ship-building.
  1431
 Earl William Sinclair becomes a Knight of the Golden Fleece and
Knight of the Cockle  at Santiago de Compostello. (see Robert Brydon's "The
Guilds, The Masons and The Rosy Cross" available from Rosslyn Chapel).
  1445
 Earl William Sinclair lays plans to build Rosslyn Chapel to
contain some of the Old  Mystery Traditions, creating a book in stone to
enshrine these for posterity.

 The Templar Order is never proscribed in Scotland, it's lands are
administered by the Hospital, but ownership is never transferred to the
Hospitallers.
  1689
 It is reported that John Grahame of Claverhouse (Bonnie Dundee)
died at Killiecrankie wearing the Grand Cross of the Order.
  1705
 General Statutes and Election Charter of the Order at the Covenant
General in  Versailles.
  1738
 Chevalier Andrew Michael Ramsay gives in Paris an Oration where he
claims that the True origin of Freemasonry came from Knights during the
Crusades.
  1742
 Karl Gotthelf, Baron Von Hund, is received into the Order of the
Temple in Paris.
  1745
It is reported that Prince Charles Edward
Stewart, gives a soiree for the Chivalry of the
Order of the Temple in Holyrood Palace,
Edinburgh.

  1790
 Alexander Deuchar becomes the Heritor to the Scottish Templar legacy.
  1804
 The Sovereign Military Order of the Temple is restored by Dr.
Bernard-Raymond Fabre-Palaprat.
  1807
 It is recorded that Alexander Deuchar holds a meeting of Knights
Templar in Edinburgh.
 Alexander Deuchar becomes Master of Militi Templi S

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Pro Wrestling's "NWO" linked to the REAL NWO?

[Bill Richer]

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In a message dated 4/16/99 7:13:05 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of Am,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Ted Turner (a man who donated $1,000,000 to the UNITED NATIONS!!!) has on
>>
Wasn't it $1,000,000,000.00?  Same man who said we should have only 200 to
500 million people in world!

Bill

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[CTRL] Fw: Pro Wrestling's "NWO" linked to the REAL NWO?

[Lloyd Miller]

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-Original Message-
From: The Yellow and Black Dog Riding a Scorpion at Midnight
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups:
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Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 9:43 PM
Subject: Pro Wrestling's "NWO" linked to the REAL NWO?


Ted Turner (a man who donated $1,000,000 to the UNITED NATIONS!!!) has on
his
World Championship Wrestling program a stable called the New World Order.
This New World Order have been 'heels' (bad guys for the
non-wrestling-initiated) for the past couple years.  Their frontman has been
none other than wrestling's most recognised mainstream crossover star,
"Hollywood" Hulk Hogan.

Recent developments in the wrestling storylines have turned Hogan's greatest
enemy, Ric Flair, and his 4 Horsemen group (which represent 'tradition',
something of course both the fictional and real NWO groups are against) into
'heels'...as things are setting up for Hogan to go back to his 'babyface'
(good guy) ways of the 80s...turning the NWO into something that is loved by
the fans

As we can see, UN sympathizer and one world government proponent Ted Turner
and his wife Hanoi Jane have no doubt planned this for years.  With pro
wrestling at record popularity, surpassing even the Hulkamania 80s, Turner
could not have picked a better time to pollute millions of children's minds
with One World Government rhetoric through something as seemingly innocuous
and harmless as pro wrestling...

Rest assured, Turner's media will find no depths too low to stoop to in
order
to foist the vision of One World Government and the New World Order upon our
world.

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[CTRL] Fwd(3): (en) Chomsky replies re Kosovo

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Noam Chomsky Replies re Kosovo From the ZNet Forum System
http://www.znet.org
Chomsky was asked first about support among progressives for the
position that "military intervention is needed to stop Milosevic from
committing genocide, regardless of whether NATO's motivations are pure,"
with comparisons about "WWII being necessary to stop Hitler, even if the
U.S. did not have truly humanitarian objectives." As well as, "Is the
Yugoslavian government genocidal" and "Will the NATO intervention have
the effect of stopping Milosevic and/or saving the people of Kosovo from
extermination?"

I don't want to say anything about the people you are referring to,
because I don't know, but it seems to me reasonably clear that if we
think the matter through, the arguments you report are untenable, so
untenable as to raise some rather serious questions.

First, let's consider Milosovec's "genocide" in the period preceding the
NATO bombings. According to NATO, 2000 people had been killed, mostly by
Serb military, which by summer 1998 began to react (with retaliation
against civilians) to guerrilla (KLA) attacks on police stations and
civilians, based from and funded from abroad. And several hundred
thousands of refugees were generated. (We might ask, incidentally, how
the US would respond to attacks on police stations and civilians in New
York by armed guerrillas supported from and based in Libya). That's a
humanitarian crisis, but one of a scale that is matched or exceeded
substantially all over the world right now, quite commonly with decisive
support from Clinton. The numbers happen to be almost exactly what the
State Department has just reported for Colombia in the same year, with
roughly the same distribution of atrocities (and a far greater refugee
population, since the 300,000 resulting from last year's atrocities are
added to over a million from before). And it's a fraction of the
atrocities that Clinton dedicated substantial efforts to escalating in
Turkey in the same years, in the ethnic cleansing of Kurds. And on, and
on. So if Milosovic is "genocidal," so are a lot of others -- pretty
close to home. That doesn't say he's a nice guy: he's a monstrous thug.
But the term "genocidal" is being waved as a propaganda device to
mobilize the public for Clinton's wars.

Second, the US ("NATO") intervention, as predicted, radically escalated
the atrocities, maybe even approaching the level of Turkey, or of
Palestine in 1948, to take another example. I wouldn't use the term
"genocide" for such operations -- that's a kind of ultra-right
"revisionism," an insult to the memory of the victims of the Holocaust,
in my opinion. But it's very bad, and it suffices to undermine the claim
that "military intervention is needed to stop Milosevic from committing
genocide," on elementary logical grounds.

About "WWII being necessary to stop Hitler," that's not what happened at
all. The US/UK were rather sympathetic to Hitler (and absolutely adored
Mussolini). That went on to the late '30s, with varying defections in
the latter stages (much the same was true of Japanese fascism). When
Hitler invaded Poland, Britain and France went to war -- called "a phony
war," because they didn't do much. When Hitler attacked them, it became
a real war. When Germany declared war on the US, after Japan had
attacked mainly US military facilities in US colonies that had been
conquered (in one case, with extraordinary violence) half a century
before, the US went to war. No one went to war "to stop Hitler."

There's always more to say: history is too complex to summarize in a few
lines. But the basic assumptions you describe are so far off the mark
that discussion is hardly even possible.

 Chomsky was also asked: "To what extent could US resort to military
force in the Balkans be related to Caspian Sea oil and concerns over
declining reserves, uncertainty about Russia and its former empire, the
threat to Western interests of increasing conflict in the Balkans, the
desire to increase the Pentagon budget, or maybe other factors, since
the professed humanitarian concerns seem `dubious.'"

On the last, "dubious" is too kind. If a Mafia don who runs the local
branch of Murder Inc. shows some kindness to children, the humanitarian
concerns don't rise to the level of "dubious" -- and that's even more so
if he shows his humanitarian concerns by kicking the kid in the face. We
can put that aside, as sheer hypocrisy.

More plausible, in my view, is just what Clinton, Blair, etc., have been
saying from the start. It's necessary to ensure the "credibility of
NATO." But that phrase has to be translated from Newspeak.

The US is not concerned with the "credibility" of Italy or Holland:
rather, with the US (and its British attack dog). And what does
"credibility" mean?

Here we 

[CTRL] Gore Worked to Soften South Africa Health Law

[Robert Tatman]

 -Caveat Lector-

What price profits?
==

Gore Worked to Soften South Africa Health Law


Reuters
16-APR-99

WASHINGTON, April 16 (Reuters) - Vice President Al Gore, who has called for
urgent measures to slow the AIDS epidemic in Africa, has at the same time
quietly worked to soften a law that consumer groups say could help AIDS
victims there, according to a government report provided to Reuters.

As head of the U.S.-South Africa Binational Commission, Gore pressed South
Africa to refrain from using some of its obscure trade powers designed to give
its people better access to cheaper medicines, the State Department report
said.

U.S. officials and drug makers argue the law giving South Africa the trade
powers violates patent rights.

"U.S. government agencies have been engaged in a full court press with South
African officials ... to convince the South African government to withdraw or
amend the offending provisions" from the law, the report said.

The report was sent to Congress in February just ahead of Gore's latest trip
to South Africa. The document has outraged consumer activists and AIDS groups,
who say Gore is putting the interests of drug companies above the welfare of
AIDS victims.

"Gore is representing the profit-glutted pharmaceutical industry, using the
facilities of the U.S. government, to browbeat the South African Ministry of
Health," consumer advocate Ralph Nader said.

A Gore spokesman, however, said the vice president was working to help AIDS
patients by making sure drug companies maintain profit levels to develop new
AIDS medications.

Gore and South African Deputy President Thabo Mbeki "are committed to working
together to chart a course that will meet the medical needs of those infected
with HIV or AIDS, without cutting off the commercial incentives that fuel
medical research in the first place," the spokesman said.

At issue is a section of the South African Medicines and Related Substances
Act, a complicated law that aims to expand access to medicines in a country
where 3 million of the 43 million citizens have HIV or AIDS.

Drug makers say this particular law goes too far in giving officials broad
authority to ignore patents needed to protect their research.

During a meeting in Washington last August, Gore made protection of
pharmaceutical patents a central focus in talks with Mbeki, the State
Department report said.

The leaders agreed the United States would restore trade benefits suspended
last year over this issue to South Africa if the countries made progress on
patent issues, the report said.

Standing next to Mbeki at a February news conference in Cape Town, Gore, the
favourite for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2000, called AIDS "a
crisis for South Africa" and said the problem "must be faced with a new level
of urgency."

AIDS activists, however, criticised Gore for publicly promising to fight AIDS
while working behind the scenes against South Africa's medicines law.

"It really is hypocritical for the administration to pretend to be concerned
about AIDS when they're taking actions ... that are denying people access to
very essential medicines," said Eric Sawyer, executive director of the
HIV/AIDS Human Rights Project.

South Africa has not used the disputed portions of its Medicines and Related
Substances Act, now tied up in court over a constitutional challenge.

But health and consumer groups have urged South Africa to use the law's power
to bring cheaper AIDS drugs to the country's poor.

The groups are pushing for compulsory licenses, giving a local company the
right to produce generic copies of drugs or import U.S. products through third
parties at a lower price.

Gore, however, was more worried about competing for campaign dollars from drug
companies than in helping AIDS patients, Nader charged.

Drug makers say they are unfairly being singled out as the bad guys in the
debate. They say other factors besides price contribute to access problems,
and they are working on ways to bring AIDS drugs to the most needy.

"There are ways to make drugs available to the poor in a country like South
Africa," said Tom Bombelles of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers
of America, a trade association. "We need to look for economic answers to
economic questions... and not say the answer to this economic question is
we'll just steal (patents)."


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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] American UN Official Gang-Raped in S. Africa]

[Howard R. Davis III]

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Robert Tatman wrote:
>
>
> I'm not trying to justify this behavior, which is clearly beyond the pale of
> any sort of civilized conduct. But has it occurred to anyone that when the ANC
> took power in South Africa, its supporters had the not unreasonable
> expectation that they would share in the wealth so egregiously displayed by
> the country's ruling class? I know that a lot of the crime is directly
> attributable to the culture of lawlessness and rebellion bred into an entire
> generation of black South Africans. All I am suggesting is that if the
> universally lionized Nelson Mandela had used his very considerable personal
> charisma to validate a true redistribution of economic resources, instead of
> focussing on electoral politics and his own lovelife, much of the crime and
> violence could have been avoided. Crime is, no matter where it takes place, in
> the final analysis a political act, and political courage is required to deal
> with it.
>
In other words, have the goods stolen by the government and
redistributed? That was certainly what was expected of Mandela by many,
both white and black. But then who would run things? Look what happened
to Mozambique after that was done.

Howard Davis

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[CTRL] Jackbooted Thugs Raid Hospital

[Mike Moxley]

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Jackbooted Thugs Raid Hospital

The Associated Press
  KNOXVILLE -- A small rural hospital in McMinn County with no history
of violence was raided by 37 armed, flak-jacketed agents on a mission to
collect Medicare and Medicaid records.
The American Hospital Association and the Tennessee Hospital
Association are outraged by the Feb. 24 seizures at four locations owned
or operated by the 72-bed East Tennessee facility, Woods Memorial
Hospital District, Etowah.
"Send in the accountants with pocket protectors to seize the records
Don't send in the FBI agents with guns and flak jackets," Craig Becker
of the Tennessee Hospital Association told the Knoxville News--Sentinel.

"This is inappropriate behavior,"  said Mary Grealy, chief counsel
for the American Hospital Association.  :I don't think this should ever
occur at a hospital.  This is not the same as if you were dealing with
drugs or something like that.
Hospital employees claim agents "constantly trampled through sterile
areas" where patients receive dialysis treatment, wouldn't let them use
the restore or answer a phone without permission and kept a dozen
workers in a small room for about an hour while records were checked.
The inspector general's office at the U.S. Department of Health and
Human Services oversaw the operation.  Agents involved came from the
FBI, the Internal Revenue Service, the Tennessee Valley Authority and
the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.
Judy Holz, a spokeswoman for the HHS' inspector general, disputed
some of the employees' claims.  She said no one was detained more than
10 minutes.
"Our policy is to go in and cause minimal disruption and have utmost
respect for both the patients and the employees," she said.
Agents routinely carry weapons during a seizure, she said, in case
they must "protect themselves...(or) control the environment."
But hospital spokesman Chris Trew said, "This is a modern hospital
facility with well-educated physicians, well-educated staff.  There was
no danger that was posed to these folks (agents).  They did not have to
come in armed."
Holz said no charges have been filed in the Etowah hospital case,
though such investigations can take two to five years.
Meantime, the hospital groups are lobbying Congress to require the
Justice Department to establish guidelines for future raids at hospitals
so agents will have to leave their guns and bulletproof vests at the
door.

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Re: [CTRL] Cold War Is Back, With Nuclear Threat - 2

[Bill Kingsbury]

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 Re:  Clinton's PDD-60
  Monica Lewinsky was used to deflect attention
  from Clinton's death wish for America:


 A Nuclear Knife Aimed at America's Heart

 Joel M. Skousen - March 25, 1999
 NewsMax.com

 In November 1997, President Clinton signed a top-secret
 Presidential Decision Directive (PDD-60) directing U.S. military
 commanders to -abandon- the time-honored nuclear deterrence of
 "launch on warning."

 Ironically, this was done in the name of "increased deterrence."
 Every sensible American needs to understand why this reasoning is
 fraudulent at best and deadly at worst.  First, some background.

 The impetus to change U.S. strategic nuclear doctrine came on the
 heels of Clinton's demand to the Joint Chiefs of Staff in early
 1997 that they prepare to unilaterally reduce America's nuclear
 warhead deployment to 2,500 in eager anticipation of the
 ratification of the START II disarmament treaty.  This pact
 has yet to be ratified by the Russian Duma.

 Gen. John Shalikashvili, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, responded
 that he couldn't comply, since the U.S. military was still
 operating on a former Presidential Decision Directive of 1981 to
 prepare to "win a protracted nuclear war."  A winning strategy
 couldn't be implemented without the full contingent of current
 nuclear strategic warheads.

 According to Craig Cerniello of Arms Control Today
 (November/December 1997 issue), "the administration viewed the
 1981 guidelines as an anachronism of the Cold War.  The notion
 that the United States still had to be prepared to fight and win
 a protracted nuclear war today seemed out of touch with reality,
 given the fact that it has been six years since the collapse of
 the Soviet Union."

 Certainly, the apparent collapse of the Soviet Union is the
 linchpin in every argument pointing toward the relaxation of
 Western vigilance and accelerated disarmament.  Indeed, it is
 the driving argument that is trumpeted constantly before Congress,
 U.S. military leaders, and the American people.

 Almost everyone is buying it -- even most conservatives who should
 know better.  However, the most savvy Soviet-watchers can point to
 a host of evidence indicating that the so-called "collapse" was
 engineered to disarm the West and garner billions in direct aid to
 assist Russia while inducing the West to take over the economic
 burden of the former satellite states.

 But the most ominous evidence is found in defectors from Russia
 who tell the same story:  Russia is cheating on all aspects of
 disarmament, and is siphoning off billions in Western aid money to
 modernize and deploy top-of-the-line new weapons systems aimed at
 taking down the U.S. military in one huge, decapitating nuclear
 strike.

 Contrast this with the Clinton administration's response.
 Incredibly, while still paying lip service to nuclear deterrence,
 Assistant Secretary of Defense Edward L. Warner III went before
 the Congress on March 31, 1998, and bragged about the litany of
 unilateral disarmament this administration has forced upon the
 U.S. military:

 Warner noted the "success" the Clinton administration has had in
 recent years, which has:

 Eliminated our entire inventory of ground-launched
 non-strategic nuclear weapons (nuclear artillery and Lance
 surface-to-surface missiles).

 Removed all nonstrategic nuclear weapons on a day-to-day basis
 from surface ships, attack submarines, and land-based naval
 aircraft bases.

 Removed our strategic bombers from alert.

 Stood down the Minuteman II ICBMs scheduled for deactivation
 under Start I.

 Terminated the mobile Peacekeeper and mobile small ICBM
 programs.

 Terminated the SCRAM-II nuclear short-range attack missile.

 In January 1992, the second Presidential Nuclear Initiative took
 further steps which included:

 Limiting B-2 production to 20 bombers.

 Canceling the entire small ICBM program.

 Ceasing production of W-88 Trident SLBM (submarine-launched
 missile) warheads.

 Halting purchases of advanced cruise missiles.

 Stopping new production of Peacekeeper missiles (our biggest
 MIRV-warhead ICBM).

 "As a result of these significant changes, the U.S. nuclear
 stockpile has decreased by more than 50 percent," Warner enthused.

 All of this has been done without any meaningful disarmament by
 the Russians.

 The Clinton administration would counter this charge by citing the
 "successful" dismantling of 3,300 strategic nuclear warheads by
 Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and Belarus, and the destruction of their 252
 ICBMs and related silos -- all paid for with U.S. taxpayer funds to
 the tune of $300 million per year. But the real story is otherwise.

 Yes, Americans paid for the dismantling of these systems -- the
 oldest and most out-of-date in the Soviet inventory.  They were
 scheduled for replacement anyway, so the U.S. taxpayer ended up
 saving the Russians over a billion dol

[CTRL] Russia Mobilizes, America Sleeps

[Bill Kingsbury]

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 NewsMax.com  - April 8, 1999

 http://38.201.154.103/articles/?a=1999/4/8/73748


  Analysis: Russia Mobilizes, America Sleeps

  J.R. Nyquist and Christopher Ruddy

  LONDON AND WASHINGTON -- Bill Clinton's use of NATO
  forces to bomb Yugoslavia could trigger global war.

  Over the weekend, Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji hinted
  that the crisis in Kosovo could lead to a world war. At
  the same time, Russia -- a long-time ally of the Serbs
  -- has begun a large-scale mobilization of its military
  forces.

  While NATO countries are engaging in military
  operations, not one Western country is mobilizing for a
  larger war, as is Russia.


  THE NEW STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP OF RUSSIA AND CHINA

  NATO's soporific reaction to Russia's mobilization
  should also be viewed, not in the context of the
  Yugoslavia bombing, but in the broader context of the
  new China-Russia relationship -- one that has
  dramatically altered the balance of power in the world.

  In November 1998, Russia and China officially formed a
  "strategic partnership." According to the official
  Chinese news agency, this partnership is meant to
  challenge the "perceived global dominance of the U.S."
  In plain English, the primary enemy Russia and China
  plan to fight is the United States and its allies.

  Together, Russia and China have the world's most
  powerful military, including over 30,000 nuclear
  weapons, armies of 6 million men with hundreds of
  battle-ready combat divisions, and thousands of tanks.
  Their new alliance should have rung warning bells
  throughout the world. Instead the Western media,
  Clinton and other Western leaders have ignored it,
  continuing to insist that Russia and China are our
  "friends."


  WHILE CLINTON DIDDLES, RUSSIA AND CHINA PREPARE FOR WAR

  In recent months, Russia and China have jointly
  demilitarized their 2,500-mile border. Three hundred
  Russian combat units were withdrawn from the Chinese
  frontier. A similar number of Chinese units were
  withdrawn.

  China has also been rapidly building up its ballistic
  missile forces opposite Taiwan -- forces that could be
  used against the U.S. military in the Far East. An
  attack against Taiwan could come at any time. Carl Ford
  of the Heritage Foundation, testifying before the
  Senate Foreign Relations Committee on March 25, said
  that the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) has
  changed its military strategy from one of a
  slowly-developed assault and blockade against Taiwan,
  to "more intense, quick-hitting attacks using ballistic
  missiles."

  For many years, Russian military theory has held that
  ballistic missile weapons can be used to accelerate
  attacks, allowing for rapid victories over powerful
  opponents. The Chinese missile buildup together with
  its shift in military strategy suggests that China's
  generals have fallen under the spell of Russian
  military theory.

  At the same time, the Russian units moved off the
  Chinese border are now free to threaten Europe.

  As the NATO bombing began, Russia talked of moving
  heavy bombers and tactical nuclear weapons into
  Belarus, the traditional invasion route from Russia to
  Europe.

  Still, NATO is oblivious to the tremendous shift in the
  global balance of power caused by the new Russia-China
  military alliance.


  NORTH KOREA JOINS THE RUSSIA-CHINA AXIS

  There are strong indications that the Russia-China
  alliance also includes other sworn enemies of the West,
  including the North Korean military dictatorship.
  During the Korean War, tens of thousands of Chinese
  troops fought against the US in support of the North
  Korean dictatorship, and China continues to be North
  Korea's principal ally. It is virtually unthinkable
  that the North Koreans would launch a new war against
  South Korea or the West without Chinese approval and
  support.

  In the past year, North Korea has become increasingly
  bellicose, repeatedly threatening to launch nuclear
  weapons against US cities if we interfere with their
  activities on the Korean peninsula. In just the last
  month, Korea has also deployed a new three-stage
  missile capable of hitting most US cities.

  A major obstacle in any war launched by North Korea is
  America's ally, Japan. According to the nationally
  circulated Japanese newspaper Sankei, on March 23,
  North Korea used a naval diversion to cover the
  insertion "dozens" of special operations commandos into
  Japan. According to unidentified sources, these North
  Korean infiltrators are trained in the sabotage of
  trains, bridges, and communications.

[CTRL] Russia's Operational Starwars Defense System

[Bill Kingsbury]

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http://www.pufori.org/starwars1.htm
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Russia's Operational Starwars Defense System

   By Robert E. McElwaine

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 RUSSIA'S OPERATIONAL STARWARS DEFENSE SYSTEM
 -

 In February 1992, Russian President Boris Yeltsin proposed to the
 United States and the United Nations a global defense shield (with
 "Star Wars"-type weapons) BASED ON RUSSIAN TECHNOLOGY.

 Some people might wonder what the "backward" Russians could
 possibly have that would be of value for the S.D.I. research and
 development program.

 The little-known TRUTH is that the Russians started deploying an
 OPERATIONAL "Star Wars" defense system in September 1977, and it
 has greatly grown and improved since that time.  It is a
 SPACE TRIAD built around CHARGED-PARTICLE BEAM and NEUTRON
 PARTICLE BEAM WEAPONS.

 In this article I will describe the Russian system as it developed
 from 1977 to 1983, and give several examples of how it was used
 during that period.  But first I will try to convince readers of
 the credibility of my main source of information about it.

 My main source is articles published in a weekly legislative
 newspaper, WISCONSIN REPORT (WR), of Brookfield, Wisconsin, (P.O.
 Box 45, zip 53005), written by the late Dr. Peter David Beter, a
 well-respected Washington, DC attorney, Doctor of Jurisprudence,
 and expert and consultant in international law, finance, and
 intelligence, who received much of his information from associates
 in the CIA and other intelligence groups of other countries who
 disapproved of many of the things happening or being planned behind
 the scenes.  They believed that at least limited public exposure
 might delay and ultimately prevent the worst of those things, such
 as NUCLEAR WAR and NATIONAL DICTATORSHIP, from taking place.

 Dr. Beter started appearing on local radio and TV talk shows, but
 soon found himself being BANNED from them, as a result of
 government THREATS to cancel broadcast licenses.  So he started
 producing monthly one-hour cassette tapes and sending them to a
 growing list of subscribers.  From June 21, 1975 until November 3,
 1982 he recorded eighty (80) "Dr. Beter Audio Letters", plus eight
 "Audio Books", and three special topic tapes.  On September 1, 1977
 Wisconsin Report started publishing transcripts of those Audio
 Letters.

 Based on information from his sources, Dr. Beter PREDICTED the
 bombing of the Marines in Beirut A FULL YEAR BEFORE IT HAPPENED,
 WARNING that the U.S. Pentagon and the Israeli Mossad were
 CONSPIRING TO DELIBERATELY ARRANGE IT in order to try to get
 Americans angry at the Arabs and generate public support for
 PLANNED military action against them.  He reported the impending
 assassination of Anwar Saddat of Egypt SIX DAYS BEFORE IT HAPPENED.
 And Dr. Beter predicted what he called the "retirement" of Leonid
 Brezhnev one week before Brezhnev officially "died", [note that the
 word "retirement" was used for the TERMINATION OF REPLICANTS in the
 1982 movie "Blade Runner"], and his quick replacement with Andropov
 which occurred only three days after the "death" of Brezhnev, to
 the surprise of all government and media analysts.  Subscription
 application and renewal forms for Dr. Beter's tapes would usually
 say, "Subscribe to the Dr. Beter Audio Letter and watch the news
 start making sense."


 RUSSIA'S SPACE TRIAD OF STAR WARS WEAPONS

 In September 1977 the Russians started launching MANNED killer
 satellites, called "COSMOS INTERCEPTORS", armed with
 CHARGED-PARTICLE BEAM weapons, into earth orbit, (12-15-77 WR; and
 Dr. Beter Audio Letter (AL) #27, Topic 1).  By April 1978 there
 were about THREE DOZEN of them, and they had FINISHED DESTROYING
 all American spy and early warning satellites, (5-18-78 WR, and AL
 #33, Topic 2).

 On September 27, 1977, in what Dr. Beter called "THE BATTLE OF THE
 HARVEST MOON", a Cosmos Interceptor in Earth orbit used a
 NEUTRON-PARTICLE BEAM to wipe out a secret American laser-beam base
 nearing operational status in Copernicus Crater on the Moon,
 (11-3-77 WR; and AL #26, Topic 1).  The Russians quickly deployed
 their own military bases on the Moon, the second leg of their space
 triad, starting on October 4, 1977, with seven EXTREMELY POWERFUL
 charged- particle beam weapons BASES on the near side of the Moon
 and three support bas

Re: [CTRL] Cold War Is Back, With Nuclear Threat - 3

[Bill Kingsbury]

 -Caveat Lector-

 Re:  Clinton's PDD-60
  Monica Lewinsky was used to deflect attention
  from Clinton's death wish for America:

 from:  http://www.armscontrol.org/ACT/novdec97/pdd.htm

 Clinton Issues New Guidelines on
 U.S. Nuclear Weapons Doctrine

 Craig Cerniello

THE CLINTON administration quietly made a significant change
in U.S. strategic nuclear doctrine in November by formally
abandoning guidelines issued by the Reagan administration in
1981 that the United States must be prepared to fight and
win a protracted nuclear war.  The new presidential decision
directive (PDD), details of which were first reported in The
Washington Post on December 7, operates from the premise
that the primary role of nuclear weapons in the post-Cold
War era is deterrence.  In a December 23 interview, Robert
Bell, senior director for defense policy and arms control at
the National Security Council, provided additional
information about the PDD and clarified some misperceptions
in the press with respect to the Clinton administration's
policy on "launch on warning" and the use of nuclear weapons
against a chemical or biological weapons attack.

 New Guidelines

Due to its highly classified nature, many specific details
about the PDD have not been made public.  Nevertheless, Bell
confirmed that "We have made an important change in terms of
strategic nuclear doctrine in reorienting our presidential
guidance away from any sense that you could fight and win a
protracted nuclear war to a strategic posture that focuses
on deterrence."

The administration made the decision to rewrite the old
nuclear guidelines early in 1997.  At that time, General
John Shalikashvili, then-chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
Staff, explained to President Clinton that the United States
could not reduce its nuclear arsenal to the level that was
being discussed for START III (2,000 to 2,500 deployed
strategic warheads) and carry out the objectives of the 1981
nuclear guidelines.  Bell pointed out that this assumed that
the goals of the old guidelines could ever have been
realized -- a skepticism that has  been voiced by former
Reagan administration officials.  Hence, one key factor
influencing the administration's decision to rewrite the old
guidelines was that they were not compatible with the U.S.
objective of achieving further strategic force reductions
with the Russians.

Moreover, the administration viewed the 1981 guidelines as
an anachronism of the Cold War.  The notion that the United
States still had to be prepared to fight and win a
protracted nuclear war today seemed out of touch with
reality given the fact that it has been six years since the
collapse of the Soviet Union.  In this connection, Bell said
the 1981 directive "reads like a document you would expect
to have been written at the height of the Cold War, not
something that you would want operative today"

 Launch on Warning

Bell said the press had incorrectly indicated that the PDD
"still allows" the United States to launch nuclear weapons
upon receiving warning of an attack.  Bell emphasized that
"there is no change in this PDD with respect to U.S. policy
on launch on warning and that policy is that we do not, not
rely on it."  In fact, Bell said "in this PDD we direct our
military forces to continue to posture themselves in such a
way as to not rely on launch on warning -- to be able to
absorb a nuclear strike and still have enough force
surviving to constitute credible deterrence."

Bell pointed out that while the United States has always had
the "technical capability" to implement a policy of launch
on warning, it has chosen not to do so.  "Our policy is to
confirm that we are under nuclear attack with actual
detonations before retaliating," he said.

 Negative Security Assurances

Bell also dispelled the published report that the PDD
expands U.S. nuclear options against a chemical or
biological weapons attack.  "This PDD reaffirms explicitly,
virtually verbatim, the policy of this administration as we
stated it the last four or five years, including during the
extension of the Non-Proliferation Treaty [NPT], the
negotiation of the CTB [Comprehensive Test Ban] and the
ratification of the Chemical Weapons Convention," he said.

Specifically, the PDD reaffirms the 1995 statement on
negative security assurances issued by Secretary of State
Warren Christopher on behalf of President Clinton at the
time of the indefinite extension of the NPT.  This statement
reiterated in a slightly more restrictive form the 1978
statement on the non-use of nuclear weapons issued by
Secretary of State Cyrus Vance on behalf of President
Carter.

In this context, Bell explained that i

Re: [CTRL] Cold War Is Back, With Nuclear Threat - 1

[Bill Kingsbury]

 -Caveat Lector-

 from:  http://209.67.114.212/forum/a456837.htm

" More than three-fourths of the electorate, 78 percent,
  were "surprised" or "shocked and angry" or "skeptical" of
  "government documents that indicate the U.S. military cannot
  destroy even a single incoming missile."  What's more,
  86 percent favor deployment of a missile defense system. "


 Missile shield a common misbelief
 --
 THE WASHINGTON TIMES
 July 31, 1998 Ralph Z. Hallow

 A new poll shows that more than three-quarters of Americans wrongly
 believe the U.S. military can destroy an incoming missile.

 "The American people are being lulled into a false sense of
 security by the Clinton administration," Rep. Floyd D. Spence, the
 House National Security Committee chairman, said Thursday at a
 Capitol Hill press conference.

 The South Carolina Republican said President Clinton has repeatedly
 and wrongly claimed that there are no missiles pointed at the
 United States.

 Republican National Chairman Jim Nicholson and Family Research
 Council president Gary Bauer joined Mr. Spence in urging the
 deployment of a missile defense for America, a measure supported
 by 86 percent of Americans, according to the new poll.

 The press conference, presented by a broad coalition of leaders
 including military and missile experts, came in the wake of a
 report by a bipartisan commission chaired by former Defense
 Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

 The Rumsfeld Commission report found that North Korea, Iran and
 other countries are hiding their ballistic missile development
 programs from U.S. satellites. It said these countries are using
 huge underground laboratories and factories to make and test
 missiles.

 Mr. Nicholson, who has been touting a missile shield on radio and
 in signed opinion columns in newspapers, said Democrats are
 filibustering a bill that would begin development of such a shield.

 The RNC chairman, a retired Army colonel who once commanded a
 tactical nuclear weapons unit, said his party is doing fine going
 into the fall elections.

 "So we don't need this as a partisan issue," Mr. Nicholson said,
 but then called on the president "to begin to lead" on the issue.

 Citing what he called the "decline in our military and the lack of
 a missile defense system," Mr. Bauer said, "We are on road right
 now that will lead inevitably to a disaster on American soil that
 will make Pearl Harbor fade from our memory."

 "The people here [at the press conference] are trying to prevent
 that from happening and for that reason they are the Paul Reveres
 of our age," he said.

 David A. Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union, agreed
 with Mr. Nicholson that missile defense need not be partisan but,
 he claimed, the Democrats are making it partisan.

 "What people need to ask those Democrats who are trying to stop
 this is, what in God's name possessed them to think they were doing
 their job by leaving the American people naked in an extremely
 dangerous world," he said.

 Frank Gaffney Jr., coordinator of the Coalition to Defend America,
 took the lead in organizing the joint press conference.  He called
 it "the most extraordinary display of broad-based concern about a
 national security problem that I've seen in 20 years."

 The survey by GOP pollster Kellyanne Fitzpatrick found that 79
 percent of the electorate is "very" or "somewhat" concerned about
 a possible missile attack on the United States, its forces or its
 allies.

 More than three-fourths of the electorate, 78 percent, were
 "surprised" or "shocked and angry" or "skeptical" of "government
 documents that indicate the U.S. military cannot destroy even a
 single incoming missile."  What's more, 86 percent favor
 deployment of a missile defense system.

 The poll of 800 registered voters was commissioned by the Center
 for Security Policy, the Claremont Institute and the Heritage
 Foundation.


 Posted for educational and discussion purposes only,
 not for commercial use.

 ---

 Posted by: donna () *
 07/31/98 04:00:38 EDT

 ---
 To: donna

  "The American people are being lulled into a false sense of
  security by the Clinton administration," Rep. Floyd D. Spence,
  the House National Security Committee chairman, said Thursday
  at a Capitol Hill press conference.

 The Clinton administration, with the aid of a complicit broadcast
 media, have lulled 65% of the American people into a seemingly
 impenetrable stupor incapable of outrage -- despite their heinous
 high crimes and misdemeanors.

 God, help us all...

 From: Car Reporter () *
 07/31/98 04:07:57 EDT

 ---
 To: Car Reporter

 78% are surprised that we cannot predict the incoming tragetory of
 a supersonic missile and hit it with another miss

[CTRL] Autism up 273% in 10 years in Calif. (fwd)

[Bill Kingsbury]

 -Caveat Lector-

 Vaccinations, Aspartame, pesticides, Prozac
 Whadda ya got?

 --- forwarded message ---
 From: Muriel Hykes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999
 Subject:  [PSYPHY] Autism Report 237% Increase in Cases

 See  http://www.dds.ca.gov/new.htm

 California Cries "273% Increase in Autism - We Don't Know Why"
 Thursday, April 15, 1999

 A new state report released today raises troubling questions about
 why California's developmental services system is experiencing a
 large unexpected increase in the numbers of children with autism,
 announced by State Senate President pro Tem John Burton and Senator
 Wesley Chesbro, Chair of the Senate Select Committee on
 Developmental Disabilities and Mental Health.

 "In the past 10 years, California has had a 273% increase in the
 number of children with autism who enter the developmental services
 system - 1,685 new cases last year alone," Burton said.  "What is
 generally considered a rare condition is increasing faster here
 than other developmental disabilities.  We need to find out why."

 "The number of children with autism greatly exceeds the numbers
 you'd expect from traditional incident rates," Chesbro said.
 "The findings and conclusions of this report show we need to take
 action now to figure out where this increase is coming from, what
 the causes of autism are and what we as a state can do."

 The Department of Developmental Services report, "Changes in the
 Population of Persons with Autism and Pervasive Developmental
 Disorders in California's Developmental Services System: 1987-1998"
 was released to the Legislature this morning.  While it confirms
 the increased incidence, the report does not examine factors
 leading to the increase.  The report was required as a result of
 legislation developed after parents, human services professionals
 and educators expressed concern that they were seeing a dramatic
 increase in children with autism.

 In addition to special legislative hearings in the issue, Burton
 and Chesbro called for funding an independent epidemiological study
 to help identify the causes of autism and the factors leading to
 California's increase in autism cases.  The Senators suggested that
 the  U.C. Davis Medical Investigation of Neurological Disorders
 Institute, (M.I.N.D.) would be the appropriate organization to do
 the research.

 Autism exacts a tremendous cost on children, on families and the
 developmental disabilities system," Burton said.  "The system is
 getting seven new kids with autism seven days a week.  Is this
 because families are coming to California for services?  A change
 in diagnostic practices? Something environmental?  We need to get
 to the bottom of this and we need to do it right," Chesbro added.

 For copies of the report contact Paul Verke a the California
 Department of Developmental Services 916 654-1820.  The report
 is also on the Department's website:  http://www.dds.ca.gov ,
 or will be there by the end of the day.  The contact for the
 M.I.N.D. Institute is Carole Gan 916 734-9047


 EXCERPTS OF THE REPORT
 by Michael McIntire
 FEAT Director

 If there was ever any doubt about the rise in Autism Incidence,
 this will forever dispel it.  Following is an excerpt from a CA
 Department of Developmental Services report released today by
 state Senator John Burton.

 While the 273% increase is quite notable in the face of 50%
 increases for other disabilities, it is notable that data for the
 13,000+ children in the the early start program for 0 to 3 year
 olds was NOT included.  The numbers will also show that the rate
 of increase is accelerating at 3% per year.

 If you really want to be scared: for the calendar year 1998,
 there were 1,685 NEW diagnosis, or 16% of the total population -
 in ONE YEAR.

 Michael McIntire

 

 excerpt:

 Table 1 shows the number and percent change in the number of
 persons with autism and other PDDs counted from all four levels of
 CDER classification in the 11 years between 1987 and 1998.  The
 population of persons with autism increased from 4.85 to 9.37
 percent of the total state wide client population.  At the end of
 1998 there were 12,780 persons, of all ages, with autism listed on
 the CDER.  Autism as a percent of the total client population
 nearly doubled.

   Table 1 - Number of Persons with Autism in 1987 and 1998
1987  1998
   Total Client Population 80,483   136,383
   Persons with Autism (Levels 1,2&4)   3,90212,780
   Percent of Total Client Population   4.85% 9.37%

 Table 2 presents the total number and percent change between 1987
 and 1998 for persons with autism, cerebral palsy, epilepsy and
 mental retardation.  To maintain equivalency in the way each
 diagnostic condition is counted, only CDER classification Levels 1
 and 2 for persons with autism are used in this table. 

[CTRL] FBI occupation of Andrews, North Carolina

[Peter L. Sroufe]

Following are facts provided to us by the people of Andrews. Judge for
yourself if you think there is reason to be suspicious of the feds'
activities there.

1. Federal agents were stationed in Andrews months before any concern about
Eric Rudolph began. (Testimony by agents stationed through the first
rotation of personnel.)

2. Federal agents are commonly brash, rude, and offensive, and sometimes
outright violent and oppressive to the locals of Andrews.

3. An individual reportedly fitting the description of Eric Rudolph was
gunned down in his trailer during a "no-knock" entry under warrant. The feds
claimed that the individual was startled and leaped in the direction of a
firearm, thus justifying the severe response by the government henchmen.
(Since the object to be seized under the search warrant was a person, why
was a "no-knock" warrant considered necessary? What's the suspect going to
do? Flush himself down the toilet?)

4. On the evening in which Philip Rogers allegedly shone his daughter's
laser pen light across a chopper pilot's helmet, he and Ramon Sparks were
chased, captured, handcuffed, and beaten by the feds, when Ramon attempted
to get Philip to the local sheriff's department for safety.

5. During a "town meeting" with the feds, the feds denied it when locals
asked about federal agents systematically eliminating the deer population
(thus eliminating a possible emergency food supply for the locals). When
eyewitnesses came forward to confront them, the meeting was abruptly ended.

6. During the initial stages of the occupation in Andrews, two federal
officials interrupted a Sunday service at a local church where they thought
Eric Rudolph might be in attendance. The minister sternly asked them several
times to stop being disruptive. "This is God's house and his time. You may
join us for worship, or wait to ask your questions." The feds responded by
saying to each other that they wouldn't get any information out of those
"dumb hillbillies." (Those "dumb hillbillies" at least have enough sense to
behave themselves in a civilized manner!)

7. Throughout the entire operation in Andrews, the FBI and their hirelings
have conducted themselves in oppressive and overbearing ways. They take what
they want, when they want, from whomever they want. The people of Andrews
are tired of the government presence. Some businesses have prospered, but
for the most part, it isn't enough to compensate for the rights and privacy
they have been forced to surrender.


 http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/8796/andrews.html

 andrews.html.url

Re: [CTRL] Fw: [ma] Shampoo?

[Bill Kingsbury]

 -Caveat Lector-

Here's another viewpoint - SLS may be safe (?)
-Bill

 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 from:  http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa090998.htm

 David Emery - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Wed, Oct  7,   1998

 What is sodium laureth sulfate
 ---
 ...and why are people saying those awful things about it?

 Dateline: 09/09/98

 The latest dire health warning to circulate by email claims that
 sodium laureth sulfate, a synthetic chemical commonly found in
 brand-name shampoos, causes cancer.

 As is typical of such warnings, the message is unsigned and cites
 no references to support its claims. "This is not a chain letter,"
 the message concludes, but it is one. As you shall see, its purpose
 is not to inform, but to frighten:

 Subject: FW: SHAMPOO ALERT!!! MUST
 READ!!!
 Importance: High

 Check the ingredients listed on your
 shampoo bottle, and see if they have
 this substance by the name of Sodium
 Laureth Sulfate or simply SLS.

 This substance is found in most
 shampoo, the manufactures use it
 because it produces a lot of foam
 and it is cheap. BUT the fact is
 that SLS is used to scrub garage
 floors, and it is very strong.

 It is also proven that it can cause
 cancer in the long run, and this is
 no joke. Well, I went home and check
 my shampoo (Vidal Sasoon), it hasn't
 got it, but others such as Vo5,
 Palmolive etc..they've got this
 substance, so I've called up to one
 of the company (u must think I had
 nothing better to do, no, I am just
 concerned about our health) well, I
 told them their product contains a
 substance that will cause people to
 have cancer, and u know what they
 said, they said "Yeah.we knew about
 it but there is nothing we can do
 about it coz we need that substance
 to produce foam, oh, by the way the
 Colgate toothpaste also contains the
 same substance to produce the
 bubbles". Oh my God, I've been using
 the Colgate since when I was born,
 what the world is that, are we going
 to die very soon. They said they are
 going to send me some info.

 Research have shown that in the
 1980s, the chance of getting cancer
 is 1 out of 8000 and now in the
 1990s, the chances of getting cancer
 is 1 out of 3 which is very serious.
 So I hope that you will take this
 seriousness and pass on this to all
 the people you know, and hopefully,
 we can stop "giving" ourselves the
 cancer virus.

 This is serious, after you have read
 this, pass it on to as many people
 as possible, this is not a chain
 letter, but it concerns our health.


 Questions and answers:

Q: Is sodium laureth sulfate commonly found in shampoos and
toothpastes?
A: Shampoos, yes; toothpastes, no.

Q: Is sodium laureth sulfate known to cause cancer?
A: No. The chemical does not appear on any official list of
known or suspected carcinogens.

Q: Is sodium laureth sulfate properly abbreviated as "SLS?"
A: No. The correct abbreviation is "SLES." The chain letter
confuses this compound with another: sodium lauryl sulfate,
which is abbreviated "SLS." The two substances are related, but
not the same.

Q: Is sodium laureth sulfate used to scrub garage floors?
A: No.

Q: What about the other one – sodium lauryl sulfate – is it
used to scrub garage floors?
A: No doubt. SLS is a powerful surfactant (wetting agent) and
detergent. It has industrial uses, but can also be commonly
found in shampoos, toothpastes, shaving creams, etc.

Q: Ah. Well, then, is SLS a known carcinogen?
A: No. But it's not as harmless as SLES. Sodium lauryl sulfate
is a skin and eye irritant and can cause dermatitis with
prolonged contact. Results of some tests on animal tissues
indicate that it can cause abnormal cell mutations, though I've
seen conflicting evidence.

Q: Would a manufacturer freely admit, as claimed in the message,
that it knowingly uses a carcinogen in its products "because we
need that substance to produce foam?"
A: Are you kidding? Of course not.

Q: Is it true that my chances of getting cancer are "1 out of 3"
in the '90s?
A: The short answer is no, but that shouldn't necessarily set
your mind at ease. According to the most recent U.S. study,
cancer strikes approximately 1 in 250 people. Of course, that's
the incidence rate, which is not the same as someone's odds of
getting cancer.

The problem with stating probabilities in this case is that
there's no way to generalize accurately. The reasons are: 1)
cancer risks for individuals vary according to a host of
factors, including gender, race, habits, and family history; and
2) the likelihood of any individual contracting cancer is also a
f

[CTRL] "The Government is Lying!"

[Peter L. Sroufe]

 -Caveat Lector-

. . . Polls say that 2/3 of the people are happy with the way things are
going in the country. Unemployment is low, the stock market is high;
everything seems to be just fine. Is it?


http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/8796/gov_lie.html

===


NEVER FORGET "Waco":

Between the days of February 28, 1993 and April 19th, 1993, approximately 80
men, women, and children living peacefully in their home near Waco, Texas,
were killed by the combined efforts of the US Defense Department and other
government paramilitary units: the US Treasury Department's Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF), and the Federal Bureau of
Investigation (FBI). The incident also claimed the lives of four ATF agents

Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum

http://www.monumental.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/

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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fw: [ma] Shampoo?]

[Robert Tatman]

 -Caveat Lector-

Alamaine Ratliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  -Caveat Lector-

> :
> : Dear family and friends:
> : Check the ingredients listed on your shampoo bottle, and see if they
> : have a substance by the name of Sodium Laureth Sulfate, or simply
> : SLS.
> :
> : This substance is found in most shampoos, and the manufacturers
> : use it because it produces a lot of foam and it is cheap. BUT the fact
> : is that SLS is used to scrub garage floors, and it is very strong.  It is
> : also proven that it can cause cancer in the long run, and this is no
> : joke. I went home and checked my shampoo (Vidal Sasoon); it
> : doesn't contain it; however, others such as Vo5, Palmolive, Paul
> : Mitchell, the new Hemp Shampoo, contains this substance.  The first
> : ingredient listed (which means it is the single most prevalent
> : ingredient) in Clairol's Herbal Essences is Sodium Laureth Sulfate.
> : So I called one company, and I told them their product contains a
> : substance that will cause people to have cancer. They said, "Yeah,
> : we knew about it but there is nothing we can do about it because we
> : need that substance to produce foam.
> :
> : By the way, Colgate toothpaste also contains the same substance to
> : produce the "bubbles." They said they are going to send me some
> : information.
> :
> : Research has shown that in the 1980s, the chance of getting cancer
> : is 1 out of 8000 and now, in the 1990s, the chances of getting cancer
> : is 1 out of 3, which is very serious.
> :
> : So, I hope that you will take this seriously and pass this on to all the
> : people you know, and hopefully, we can stop "giving" ourselves the
> : cancer virus (I hate wrong information!  Cancer is not caused by a virus!
> : See Part X of my series to understand. - David).  This is serious. After
> : you have read this, pass it on to as many people as possible, this is not
> : a chain letter, but it concerns our health.
> :
> : Michelle Hailey
> : Executive Secretary
> : University of Pennsylvania Health System Office of Legal Affairs
> : (215) 662-2546
> :


According to the Mining Co.--
(http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa090998.htm?pid=2733&cob=home)

What is sodium laureth sulfate ...and why are people saying those awful things about 
it?

Dateline: 09/09/98

The latest dire health warning to circulate by email claims that sodium laureth 
sulfate, a synthetic chemical commonly found in brand-name shampoos, causes cancer.

As is typical of such warnings, the message is unsigned and cites no references to 
support its claims. "This is not a chain letter," the message concludes, but it is 
one. As you shall see, its purpose is not to inform, but to frighten:

 Subject: FW: SHAMPOO ALERT!!! MUST READ!!!
 Importance: High

 Check the ingredients listed on your shampoo bottle,
 and see if they have this substance by the name of
 Sodium Laureth Sulfate or simply SLS.

 This substance is found in most shampoo, the
 manufactures use it because it produces a lot of foam
 and it is cheap. BUT the fact is that SLS is used to
 scrub garage floors, and it is very strong.

 It is also proven that it can cause cancer in the long
 run, and this is no joke. Well, I went home and check
 my shampoo (Vidal Sasoon), it hasn't got it, but others
 such as Vo5, Palmolive etc..they've got this substance,
 so I've called up to one of the company (u must think I
 had nothing better to do, no, I am just concerned about
 our health) well, I told them their product contains a
 substance that will cause people to have cancer, and u
 know what they said, they said "Yeah.we knew about it
 but there is nothing we can do about it coz we need
 that substance to produce foam, oh, by the way the
 Colgate toothpaste also contains the same substance to
 produce the bubbles". Oh my God, I've been using the
 Colgate since when I was born, what the world is that,
 are we going to die very soon. They said they are going
 to send me some info.

 Research have shown that in the 1980s, the chance of
 getting cancer is 1 out of 8000 and now in the 1990s,
 the chances of getting cancer is 1 out of 3 which is
 very serious. So I hope that you will take this
 seriousness and pass on this to all the people you
 know, and hopefully, we can stop "giving" ourselves the
 cancer virus.

 This is serious, after you have read this, pass it on
 to as many people as possible, this is not a chain
 letter, but it concerns our health.


Questions and answers:

Q: Is sodium laureth sulfate commonly found in shampoos and toothpastes?
A: Shampoos, yes; toothpastes, no.

Q: Is sodium laureth sulfate known to cause cancer?
A: No. The chemical does not appear on any official list of known or
suspected carcinogens.

Q: Is sodium laureth sulfate properly abbreviated as "SLS?"
A: No. The correct abbreviation is "SLES." The chain

Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Cold War Is Back, With Nuclear Threat]]

[Robert Tatman]

 -Caveat Lector-

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> Robert Tatman wrote:
> >
> > I believe that Tesla was Croatian, not Serbian.
> >
> > Bob
> >
>
> Well, you would be half right. Sort of. His family was Serbian, but had
> lived in the Croatian area for several generations. His father was an
> Orthodox priest. I am not sure, but I think they lived in the Kryiena
> (sp?) region mentioned as having recently gone through ethnic cleansing.
>
> Howard Davis
>
Right. Thank you. I had a feeling there was something confusing about it. Just
goes to point up the thoroughly jumbled nature of the populations in the
Balkans. BTW, it's "Krajina," IIRC--and that region has somewhat the same
historical meaning for the Croats that Kosovo does for the Serbs.

Bob

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Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] American UN Official Gang-Raped in S. Africa]

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Das GOAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Crime has become a major campaign issue ahead of South Africa's second
> all-race elections on June 2. Mainly white opposition parties have been
> pressing the governing African National Congress on the issue.
>
> More than 60,000 women and girls are raped every year in South Africa.


I'm not trying to justify this behavior, which is clearly beyond the pale of
any sort of civilized conduct. But has it occurred to anyone that when the ANC
took power in South Africa, its supporters had the not unreasonable
expectation that they would share in the wealth so egregiously displayed by
the country's ruling class? I know that a lot of the crime is directly
attributable to the culture of lawlessness and rebellion bred into an entire
generation of black South Africans. All I am suggesting is that if the
universally lionized Nelson Mandela had used his very considerable personal
charisma to validate a true redistribution of economic resources, instead of
focussing on electoral politics and his own lovelife, much of the crime and
violence could have been avoided. Crime is, no matter where it takes place, in
the final analysis a political act, and political courage is required to deal
with it.

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Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Info on Spear of Destiny]

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> Just ran across a couple of Wagner jokes that I thought might be of
> interest. I have seen a movie of Parsifal and have listened to it many
> times on records and CDs. It is one of my favorites, but I know that
> many don't enjoy his work as much as I.
>
> Also, I might mention that I once heard his granddaughter speak. This
> was about 30 years ago and she was fairly old at the time. I think her
> name was Winnefred. She spoke of the relationship of her grandfather's
> music to the Nazis and how much of her family had supported Hitler. She,
> however, said that she thought that the "Ring" was symbolic of the Nazis
> in that at the end greed destroyed the gods. In fact, the last music the
> Berlin Philharmonic played at the end of WW2 was from the "Twilight of
> the Gods".
>
> "Parsifal - the kind of opera that starts at six o'clock and after it has
> been going three hours, you look at your watch and it says 6:20." --
> David Randolph
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> "One can't judge Wagner's opera Lohengrin after a first hearing, and I
> certainly don't intend hearing it a second time." -- Gioacchino Rossini

My father studied Germanic philology at the University of Munich in the summer
of 1937. While there, he was part of a *Studentenkreis* (student circle) that
got together regularly at the Hotel Vier Jahreszeiten--some foreigners, some
Germans. One of the members of the group was a guy named Hermann, who happened
to belong to the Allgemeine SS ("General" SS, sort of like the National
Guard). Now, Hermann was not really a Nazi. He had joined the SS because of
the fancy uniforms, which (according to my father) made it easy for him to
pick up girls... Well, one day Reichsmarschall Goering came to Munich for a
performance of one of Wagner's operas, and Hermann was one of the local SS
called out to serve as an honor guard. They duly lined up along the great
staircase leading into the operahouse, waited while Goering lumbered up the
steps, and then--because they couldn't be expected to hang around for the five
or six hours the opera would take--their commander dismissed them, with orders
to return in time to form up for the Reichsmarschall's departure. So Hermann
headed on over to the Vier Jahreszeiten, in uniform of course, and in short
order had picked up an American girl and headed out to Schwabing, where they
went swimming in the moonlight... Needless to say, Hermann did *not* make it
back to the operahouse for Goering's departure. In fact, as it happened, he
didn't even stay in the SS. When war was declared, he transferred to the
Wehrmacht as a medic, and managed to get himself interned in Sweden for most
of the war. (Shades of Yossarian...!)

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Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Cold War Is Back, With Nuclear Threat]

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Robert Tatman wrote:
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> I believe that Tesla was Croatian, not Serbian.
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> Bob
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Well, you would be half right. Sort of. His family was Serbian, but had
lived in the Croatian area for several generations. His father was an
Orthodox priest. I am not sure, but I think they lived in the Kryiena
(sp?) region mentioned as having recently gone through ethnic cleansing.

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Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Cold War Is Back, With Nuclear Threat]

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"Howard R. Davis III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Nicola Tesla, the inventor of the alternating current generator and
> motor (upon which our present civilization is based), claimed to have
> invented a "death ray". It sounded suspiciously like some sort of
> particle beam accelerator which he claimed would protect any country
> from invasion. Most thought he was a crackpot and his later writings
> were ignored. However, all his writings were confiscated by the US
> government in 1943 when he died. Some may never have been released to
> his relatives (who incidentally were Serbians, they went to a museum in
> Belgrade). However, in thinking about this possible weapon, I realized
> that it may not be to the advantage of some to have such a weapon
> available to all countries. It certainly would make things difficult for
> NATO right now. So, it seems to me that it may be quite possible that
> such a weapon has already been invented, but that it is under wraps.
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I believe that Tesla was Croatian, not Serbian.

Bob

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Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

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Colleen Jones wrote:
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> Hitler, gave the people Wagner; this is wht put them to sleep;  after
> watching the Ring he knew he could not be a martyer; but as did we, with
> propaganda music, we used to send our boys to war on a songthat does
> not go over any more as pepole are too sophisticated.
>

Hitler gave the German people Wagner? Wagner had his own theater in
Bayreut (sp?) long before Hitler was even born. His music was played all
over the world. There was a reaction against Wagner's music among French
composers in the late 1890s. The Metropolitan Opera of New York had a
whole group of singers devoted to nothing but singing Wagner's operas
before the turn of the century. To say that Hitler gave the people
Wagner is non-sense.

Howard Davis

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Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

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Well, I had to answer you Juneam getting ready to go outthanks
for the offer to look up the info.

Now as you know, I am not an expert on anything; I am just a researcher
into certain areas, who got in deep  in some of this stuff re the
assassinations.

Hitler, gave the people Wagner; this is wht put them to sleep;  after
watching the Ring he knew he could not be a martyer; but as did we, with
propaganda music, we used to send our boys to war on a songthat does
not go over any more as pepole are too sophisticated.

I turned on Wagner last night, and this music is incredible = it is so
beautiful, true a lot of it boring

In the Revelations you will find Hitler's attempt at the 1000 Year
Reichif I am right, according to this old concordance I have made
especially for the SS Teachers Edition Oxford University, etc., Seig
Heil, meant God Is aliveand of course, Hitler had assumed that
role.how anyone could send boys to war on the music of Wagner - no
they could not.  But supposed the water of the German people had been
drugged...(you know prior to the sinking of the Titanic, the Germans
were working on "artificial icebergs"  I always wondered about that -
easy to engineer an iceburg loaded with explosives)

Anyway, have lost the thread of my own communication - as am in
rushHitler sent his youth and men to war on Marching Bandslike
we used Philip Sousaand the South went to war on Dixie, which still
stirs the heart of every rebel in the states.  Music is perhaps the
greatest psychological weapon  remember back in the 60 period, in
Czeckloslavikiawhen they revolted, I noted they sent in their music
makers

The Serbs are hold music feststhis stuff is so old hat -

There is a certain type of German, whom I always called the Prussian
Princesand the German people, who love to dance, love music, home
and Tannenbaum... you now, maybe these Bilderbergers have been around a
lot longer than we thought, only under a different name.

got to go.   thanks...this is a hodge podge.   but, look at the
music makers in the Balkans working overtime.  If they read our music
today, well even Rocky Racoon is old hat.and he was done in by a
traveling salesman named Gideon, I think.

Colleen

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[CTRL] A Hidden Room - conspiracy web site is open

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A Hidden Room - conspiracy web
site is open

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Subject: A Hidden Room - conspiracy web site is open
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>From assassination to vaccine contamination, mind control and the octopus, a
hidden room covers a variety of subjects which affect our lives and sounds a
wake up call for the naive among us.

The site address is http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/mindgame/hiddenroom/index.html

You are welcome to submit suggested links and forward articles of concern.

Anita

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A Hidden Room




In A Hidden Room can be found doors to a variety of topics which tend to
be buried under our carpets. The darker sides of our experiences can be
examined here.

aspartame - look at the first three letters and ask yourself if someone
intended to market poison as a sweetener (appropriately ironic).
Apparently, it was once listed by the pentagon as a biochemical warfare
agent.

fluoride - have you been drinking bitter water?

vaccine contamination - mankind innoculates himself with vaccines
cultured from animals and creates new plagues.

JFK - why was the coup master, General Ed Lansdale, on site in Dallas?
He's been positively ID'd by big guns, General Victor Krulak and Col.
Fletcher Prouty.

MKUltra - definitely not suitable for children. The horrors behind these
doors are difficult to come to grips with even for the hardened
researcher. A good introduction to this subject is The Manchurian
Candidate. The fragmenting of personalities for the creation of mind
control slaves involves torture and hypnosis, often started at a very
young age. What Dr. Cameron did to his patients was only the beginning.
Lack of awareness of these types of shadow government programs allows
them to continue. For the good of your fellow man, please open your
eyes, have the courage to enter this doorway.

the octopus - Danny Casolaro died trying to get this information to you,
and this investigative reporter has had to go into hiding. She writes
under an alias. Those wishing to understand how the beast can gain world
domination should look closely at the Inslaw stolen software case.

the money changers - is it time to throw them out of the temple? A few
presidents have tried, even Jesus was steaming mad, yet here they are...

Col. L. Fletcher Prouty - Col. Prouty tells it as he recalls and gives
us all the gift of insight into the mechanics behind the development of
the modern military industrial world. His experiences with the overt and
covert control of world governments are first hand. From assassinations
to coups, third world debt and Indonesia, Col. Prouty has some
surprising answers.

Mae Brussell - an exremely dedicated conspiracy researcher, the archives
of Mae Brussell can help us unravel an intricate power network which
embraces and seeks to control.

testimonial - at the time unnoticed by the Vancouver police, several of
us witnessed the severe police beating of a man who offered no
resistance once he was arrested.

copyright - the protectionist stopper of progress.

conspiracy links - here are some web sites to check out.

Perhaps it is most healthy to remember that to conspire is in human
nature, and not always to the detriment of the greater good. We do not
need to persecute those who fall by the moral wayside, all we need to do
is change the frameworks which allow victimization and abuse of power
and a natural evolution of change results. Instead of fearing change, we
can learn how to embrace it.

A good place to start is to lift the veil of naive trust. For those with
eyes to see, let them have the courage to look. For those with ears to
listen, let them find the wisdom to understand. Ultimately, if there is
corruption, it is because we have allowed it. We are responsible.

A first positive step is to take responsibility for the fact that there
may be many instances in which we continually allow ourselves to be
deceived. A second positive step is to shed ourselves of the invisible
culprit, the hidden "they". "They" did this. "They" are out to get us.
By resorting to such a depersonalized system of identification, we
remove people from the overall picture, replacing them with a robot
fantasy model fitting to our imaginations. Ultimately, we betray the
most valuable and precious gift we have, free individual thought. The
moment we decide what any other person is thinking, we rob that person
of the right to be heard as an individual. We also have much more
difficulty confronting a ghostly "they" as opposed to the real humans
involved. "They" are vast and untouchable, leaving us feel

[CTRL] The Articles of Confederation (1781)

[Robert Tatman]

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from http://libertyonline.hypermall.com/ArtConfed.html
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The Articles of Confederation (1781)

To all to whom these presents shall come, we the undersigned delegates of the
states affixed to our names, send greeting:

Whereas the delegates of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
did, on the fifteenth day of November in the year of our Lord seventeen
seventy-seven, and in the second year of the Independence of America, agree to
Certain Articles of Confederation and perpetual union between the states of
New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations,
Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia,
North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia in the words following, viz:

Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union Between the States of New
Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations,
Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia,
North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia.

ARTICLE I. The style of this Confederacy shall be "The United States of
America."

ARTICLE II. Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom and independence, and
every power, jurisdiction and right which is not by this Confederation
expressly delegated to the United States in Congress assembled.

ARTICLE III. The said states hereby severally enter into a firm league of
friendship with each other for their common defence, the security of their
liberties, and their mutual and general welfare, binding themselves to assist
each other against all force offered to, or attacks made upon them, or any of
them, on account of religion, sovereignty, trade, or any other pretence
whatever.

ARTICLE IV. The better to secure and perpetuate mutual friendship and
intercourse among the people of the different States in this Union, the free
inhabitants of each of these states, paupers, vagabonds and fugitives from
justice excepted, shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of free
citizens in the several states; and the people of each state shall have free
ingress and regress to and from any other state, and shall enjoy therein all
the privileges of trade and commerce, subject to the same duties, impositions
and restrictions as the inhabitants thereof respectively; provided, that such
restrictions shall not extend so far as to prevent the removal of property
imported into any state, to any other state of which the owner is an
inhabitant; provided also, that no imposition, duties or restriction shall be
laid by any state on the property of the United States, or either of them.

If any person guilty of or charged with treason, felony, or other high
misdemeanor in any state, shall flee from justice, and be found in any of the
United States, he shall upon demand of the governor or executive power of the
state from which he fled, be delivered up and removed to the state having
jurisdiction of his offense.

Full faith and credit shall be given in each of these states to the records,
acts and judicial proceedings of the courts and magistrates of every other
state.

ARTICLE V. For the more convenient management of the general interests of the
United States, delegates shall be annually appointed in such manner as the
legislature of each state shall direct, to meet in Congress on the first
Monday in November, in every year, with a power, reserved to each state, to
recall its delegates, or any of them, at any time within the year, and to send
others in their stead, for the remainder of the year.

No state shall be represented in Congress by less than two, nor by more than
seven members; and no person shall be capable of being a delegate for more
than three years in any term of six years; nor shall any person, being a
delegate, be capable of holding any office under the United States, for which
he, or another for his benefit receives any salary, fees or emolument of any
kind.

Each state shall maintain its own delegates in a meeting of the states, and
while they act as members of the committee of the states.

In determining questions in the United States, in Congress assembled, each
state shall have one vote.

Freedom of speech and debate in Congress shall not be impeached or questioned
in any court, or place out of Congress, and the members of Congress shall be
protected in their persons from arrests and imprisonments, during the time of
their going to and from, and attendance on Congress, except for treason,
felony, or breach of the peace.

ARTICLE VI. No state without the consent of the United States in Congress
assembled, shall send any embassy to, or receive any embassy from, or enter
into any conference, agreement, alliance or treaty with any king, prince or
state; nor shall any person holding any office of profit or trust under the
United States, or any of them, accept of any, present, emolument, office or
tit

[CTRL] NWO stuff

[Kris Millegan]

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Subject: NWO stuff
From: Philippe Gensou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, Apr 15, 1999 3:34 PM
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>
> ==
> U.S. Senate Republican Policy Committee
> ==
>
> March 31, 1999
>
> The Kosovo Liberation Army: Does Clinton Policy Support Group
> with Terror, Drug Ties?
>
> (...)
>
> Iranian arms shipments to Bosnia: The Clinton Administration
> concealed its active cooperation with the Iranians for arms
> shipments to the Muslim fundamentalist regime of Alija
> Izetbegovic in Bosnia in violation of the United Nations arms
> embargo on the former Yugoslavia. [For details on the Clinton
> Administration's active connivance with the Iranians, see RPC's
> "Clinton-Approved Iranian Arms Transfers Help Turn Bosnia into
> Militant Islamic Base," 1/16/97.] This track record undermines
> the Clinton Administration's insistence that Russia, as a
> permanent member of the U.N. Security Council, is obligated to
> observe the same embargo with respect to Serbia [as stated by
> State Department spokesman James Rubin, daily briefing, March 24,
> 1999].
>
> Eradication of the Serbs in Krajina: The Clinton Administration
> has stalled efforts to investigate what has been called the
> "biggest ethnic cleansing" of the Balkan wars, one which the
> Clinton Administration may itself have helped to facilitate:
>
> "Investigators at the international war crimes tribunal in The
> Hague have concluded that the Croatian Army carried out summary
> executions, indiscriminate shelling of civilian populations and
> 'ethnic cleansing' during a 1995 assault that was a turning point
> in the Balkan wars, according to tribunal documents. The
> investigators have recommended that three Croatian generals be
> indicted, and an American official said this week that the
> indictments could come within a few weeks. . . . Any indictment
> of Croatian Army generals could prove politically troublesome for
> the Clinton Administration, which has a delicate relationship
> with Croatia, an American ally in preserving the peace in Bosnia
> with a poor human rights record. The August 1995 Croatian
> offensive, which drove some 100,000 Serbs from a large swath of
> Croatia over four days, was carried out with the tacit blessing
> of the United States by a Croatian Army that had been schooled in
> part by a group of retired American military officers. Questions
> still remain about the full extent of United States involvement.
> In the course of the three-year investigation into the assault,
> the United States has failed to provide critical evidence
> requested by the tribunal, according to tribunal documents and
> officials, adding to suspicion among some there that Washington
> is uneasy about the investigation. Two senior Canadian military
> officers, for example, who were in Croatia during the offensive,
> testified that the assault, in which some 3,000 shells rained
> down on the city of Knin over 48 hours, was indiscriminate and
> targeted civilians. . . . A section of the tribunal's 150-page
> report is headed: 'The Indictment. Operation Storm, A Prima Facie
> Case.': 'During the course of the military offensive, the
> Croatian armed forces and special police committed numerous
> violations of international humanitarian law, including but not
> limited to, shelling of Knin and other cities,' the report says.
> 'During, and in the 100 days following the military offensive, at
> least 150 Serb civilians were summarily executed, and many
> hundreds disappeared.' The crimes also included looting and
> burning, the report says." ["War Crimes Panel Finds Croat Troops
> 'Cleansed' the Serbs," New York Times, 3/21/99]
>
> The Krajina episode -- the largest in the recent Yugoslav wars,
> at least until this week in Kosovo -- exposes the hypocrisy of
> the Clinton claims as to why intervention in Kosovo is a
> humanitarian imperative:
>
> "Within four days, the Croatians drove out 150,000 Serbs, the
> largest [until this week] ethnic cleansing of the entire Balkan
> wars. Investigators in the Hague have concluded that this
> campaign was carried out with brutality, wanton murder, and
> indiscriminate shelling of civilians. . . . Krajina is Kosovo
> writ large. And yet, at the same time, the U.S. did not stop or
> even protest the Croatian action. The Clinton Administration
> tacitly encouraged it." [Charles Krauthammer, "The Clinton
> Doctrine," Time magazine, 4/5/99]
>
> In short, the absence of official confirmation of the reports
> cited below can hardly be considered the last word in the matter.
> And given this Administration's record, one might treat with some
> degree of skepticism even a flat denial of KLA drug and terror
> ties -- which thus far has not been offered. As the Clinton
> Administration searches for ne

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

[Howard R. Davis III]

 -Caveat Lector-

My brother was at a gym once where kids were working on gymnastics. I
believe it was a summer camp. Anyway there the regular pop music of the
day on the radio (70s). The coach said to my brother that he was going
to show him something interesting. He said notice how well the gymnasts
are doing right now. He watched for a minute or two. Then he put on a
record of German marches. The kids improved immediately.

BTW. If you want to hear real Nazi music, listen to Carl Orff's Carmina
Burana. It was commissioned by the Nazis and I have heard that it was
commissioned by the head of the SS, Himmler. I don't know the latter for
sure, but I do know the former. I was in an orchestra that played it
once. The conductor announced that one of our very own members was in
the orchestra that first premiered it in Vienna and he introduced a
cellist and asked him to speak about it. He started telling about the
performance being severely booed. But said it wasn't necessarily because
the people didn't like the music. Rather that this was their way of
demonstrating against Hitler since the nazis had commissioned the music
and this was just after Austria's takeover by Germany. You should have
seen the face on the conductor. Our rehearsals were held in the local
Jewish community center.

Howard Davis

ps. The nazi connection to the occult and also to "butch" homosexuality
seem to have been covered up. I once read a book about Jan Karski the
Polish underground courier who purposely went into a Nazi death camp so
he could report on it when he got to England. He had been picked up
earlier by the Gestapo and had been interrogated by a twentish SS
officer. He noticed that the officer treated him very warmly and
respectfully, etc. And also that he had spoken extensively about his
years as a Hitler youth. He had told Karski how he had been the
protogete of the leader of the Hitler youth, but had fallen out of
favor, etc. It sounded to me like the guy was trying to get Karski to
become his lover. I looked up the name of the guy who had been the
leader of the Hitler youth and it turned out that he had had an
extensive background of problems with pederasty. I wrote to Karski
suggesting that the SS officer was trying to seduce him. Karski replied
that "I seemed to have a deep knowledge".

As for the occult. I too have read those books. I did an extensive study
of the Holocaust and in arguing with some of the Holocaust deniers I
finally came to the realization that they were not merely arguing over
facts and interpretation, but rather that they were coming from a deep
spiritual attachment to Hitler. This was evidenced to me by one who
finally admitted that the Holocaust may have happened, but that Hitler
did not know about it. This, of course, is ridiculous. But it did seem
to indicate a strong belief in Hitler going far beyond anything
explainable from a rational point. After reading the connections between
Hitler and the occult, I began to think that this whole thing was more
explainable on a spiritual level. I had never believed much in demon
possession, but it began to be more understandable to me after these studies.


YnrChyldzWyld wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Colleen Jones wrote:
> >Now is has been a long time since I read the above book (1980 about) and
> >hear Wagner's ring.
>
> I still have my copy, I believe, if you want me to look anything up...
> I know my local library still has it, since I noticed it on the shelf a
> few weeks ago...
>
> An even more interesting book (which I haven't been able to finish) goes
> by the title of Fire and Ice, I believegoes into the history of the
> occult movements which were going strong in Germany in general, and
> Vienna in particular, in the 19th and early 20th century, and how such
> societies had an influence on Hitler, and eventually the whole Nazi
> party.
>
> >People have been waiting for the Messiah's return now for nearly 2,000
> >years;
>
> Ignoring the fact that:
>
> a) 2000 years ago, they were on a totally different calendar
>than we are now, and
>
> b) the Bible states that no one knows the time that Jesus will
>return, that it does NOT go by any one date; it only states
>that the discerning will recognize certain signs, which it
>describes in Daniel and Revelations, amongst other books...
>
> >some believe he will be reincarnated,
>
> Which is not scripturally supported...
>
> >So, I think we have another thousand years to gotwo thousand years
> >is a long time to wait on anyone, but when he descends, allegedly his
> >heel will hit the top of a mountainbook called Footsteps of Orpheus
> >stated there are people drilling at the foot of this mountain now
>
> Perhaps you can point out the actual passages of SCRIPTURE which purport
> to make these claims?
>
> >Such is lifeHitler thrived on Nazi Marching bands, not Wagner.
>
> Wagner was his favorite 

Re: [CTRL] Bilderberg SECRET meeting - June 3-6, Portugal

[Colleen Jones]

 -Caveat Lector-

Okay...so much for SECRET meetings.  I love this.years ago
Gerald Ford attended a Bilderberg meeting, and did not know it was
secret.he blabbed and shocked a lot of people - it was though that
it was because of playing football with out a helmet incident caused
this intelligence leak.

Now there they are - this is the REAL FAMILY MAFIA.remember years
ago, when the poor man's mafia got caught at a meeting - it was on
November 14th, as I recalla young highway patrolman wondered why all
the strange license plates and lo and behold - a meeting of the mob -
they didn't even have time to open their bibles.

Now I imagine the Bilderbergers will have an open bible in every
roomGideon style.

What about sunshine laws; is our national security involved here when
one has the feeling our country is being sold out?  What about the
Beverly Hllls years ago burning down; a meeting ground for
spies..this is the real thinghere we have them.except for
one thing.

WHO CALLED THE MEETING OF TIHIS MOBfind them, and you find the big
Kuhanathe leader of the Band...the big Enchillada (forgive my
spelling); the big cheesewho will it be.Red Shield (that means
Rothschild.Red Shield, their real name was Baur)or who could
this be now behind this entire group.   Who Called this meeting.

Now we know everybody jumps on all fours when William Jefferson Clinton
calls a meetingbut what will these bilderbergers discuss.further
genocide of the masses,  how to isolate AIDS - or how to stay in the CYA
Club without getting tripped.

Who Called the Meeting.   Who sent out the invitationsand who is the
God Father of this mercenary bunch of thieves.

Colleen

Should we use the 109th Pslam against them as they did Kennedy?And
blot their names out of the book; well, that just isn't possible,
because they are writing it.

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[CTRL] Ky. steelmakers, users square off on import law

[Carl Amedio]

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Ky. steelmakers, users square off on import law

By Gail Gibson
HERALD-LEADER WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON -- The glut of cheap, foreign steel that touched off this
year's biggest trade fight in Congress hit the bottom line at the Gallatin
Steel Co. in Northern Kentucky.

Since late last year, production at the mini-mill in Ghent has dropped to
50 percent of capacity. Prices for the hot-rolled steel the company sells
to businesses like automotive stamping plants have fallen from $300 a
ton to $200.

``That just comes out of your pocket, because costs don't drop like
that,'' said Ed Puisis, Gallatin's chief financial officer.

Last month, lawmakers in Washington stepped in to try to help
domestic steelmakers like Gallatin, who say increased imports are
crushing their business. In a 298-141 vote, the U.S. House approved
legislation that would impose quotas on steel imports for three years.

But a solution may not come that easily. The quota bill already faces
criticism from leading economists, a veto threat from the White House
and an uncertain future in the Senate as lawmakers return to work this
week after a two-week recess.

And in Kentucky, the story isn't just in the old steel mills in towns like
Newport or Ashland. On the other side of the fight is the state's
burgeoning auto industry -- including leading employers like Toyota
Motor Manufacturing of North America -- which says the import
restrictions would hurt business.

``It's a question of whose margin is at stake,'' said Dennis Cuneo,
Toyota's vice president for corporate affairs.

Cuneo said that Toyota-North America buys roughly $300 million worth
of steel each year, about 95 percent of it from U.S. producers. Import
restrictions would push up steel prices across the board. And that
increase could force carmakers to respond by cutting costs -- trimming
wages or laying off employees -- or raising sticker prices.

``I do feel for the individual steelworker who may lose his or her job,''
Cuneo said. ``But on the other hand, I don't think it justifies losing
three or four other jobs in the steel industry so the government can prop
up that job.''

Worries of `protectionism'

By sheer employment numbers, steelmakers in Kentucky don't have the
same strength as steel users -- particularly major operations like
Toyota's Georgetown plant or Ford's truck plants in Louisville.

In 1998, carmakers Toyota, Ford and General Motors employed 17,000
people in the state. The state's 56 steel companies combined to employ
6,199, state figures show.

But the steelmakers showed their muscle on the import restriction bill.

Of Kentucky's six U.S. House members, only two -- Republican Reps.
Ernie Fletcher of Lexington and Anne Northup of Louisville -- voted
against the bill.

It wasn't an easy decision, Fletcher said in a recent interview.

``My dad worked in the steel mills when he was younger, and we were
talking to the steel workers coming in, and I'm very concerned about
their jobs and their well-being,'' Fletcher said.

Fletcher balanced that view against the concerns of Toyota, a major
player in his Central Kentucky district, and other steel users like heavy-
equipment manufacturer Caterpillar Inc., which produces tractor treads
at a Danville plant.

``I came down on the fact that in the long run, our protectionism is going
to have a greater ill effect on our citizens than in the short term,'' he
said.

Some of the nation's leading economists have sounded the same
concerns. Testifying at a House Ways and Means committee hearing
this winter, Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan warned that a
``drift toward protectionist policies, which are always difficult to reverse,
is a much greater threat than is generally understood.''

Writing in the Wall Street Journal last month, economist Robert
Crandall, a senior fellow with the Brookings Institution, called the steel
bill ``one of the most blatantly protectionist pieces of legislation since
the
1930s.''

The debate highlights some of the nation's free-trade angst, which has
been exacerbated in parts of Kentucky by the closings of textile plants in
the wake of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

House members split

Rep. Ken Lucas of Union is a conservative Democrat and businessman
who generally favors free trade. But his Northern Kentucky district also
includes some of the larger steel mills, and on this issue, Lucas said,
the ``benefits outweighed the negatives.''

Other Kentucky House members who backed the steel quota bill said
they did so to signal concerns that the Clinton administration is not
adequately enforcing existing trade laws.

``Unfortunately, President Clinton has refused to stand up for American
steelworkers; therefore, the responsibility fell to Congress,'' said Rep.
Ron Lewis, R-Cecilia.

Big U.S. steel companies and their workers also say the administration
isn't doing enough to crack down on increasing imports.

And they say the impact on their business has been great. Thr

Re: [CTRL] Limitations on E.O.'s?

[Colleen Jones]

 -Caveat Lector-

Years and years ago, a friend of mine gave me the huge Ohio Revised Code
in one bookI read it all, but got really bored when it came to the
banking and money stuff, where most of the dirty work is usually done -
securities and all that.

There was one law on the books then, that I still remember and did not
question or wonder why:   (Actually, believe was two laws).

One law forbid Greek Fraternities..

Other Law forbid anyone other than a Mason from wearing Masonic
regalia(and the word I think was regalia).

I do not know if this law is still on books; but would have to be under
Chapter 29 criminal code.I ran across it again in 1969 when I filed
the soothsaying without a license charge against Jeanne Dixon, the Tokyo
Rose of Washington Square.but again, do not believe any of these
laws were repealed and still stand.

Why would it be illegal to wear Masonic Regalia..yet on the other
hand, why would it bann fraternities using Greek letters  etc.   All
these fraternities use the King James Bible for their rituals.just
like the Mafia.

Do not have this huge law book anymore; and have no access to Ohio code
at this point in time.

Colleen

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[CTRL] ECB's Liebscher `Not Concerned' About Euro's Slide vs Dollar

[Carl Amedio]

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ECB's Liebscher `Not Concerned' About Euro's Slide vs Dollar
Bloomberg News
Apr 16 1999 7:10AM ET
ECB's Liebscher `Not Concerned' About Euro's Slide vs Dollar

Vienna, April 16 (Bloomberg) -- European Central Bank council member Klaus
Liebscher said he isn't concerned about the euro's fluctuating exchange rate
against the dollar, even as Europe's four-month-old single currency sinks to
its lowest level since its inception.

Though the euro sank to as low as $1.0622 in London trading today, the lowest
since it first began trading at $1.16675 on Jan. 4, Liebscher, the Austrian
National Bank governor, said ``psychological factors'' and concern about
``how economies are performing'' are commonplace in exchange rates between
two currencies.

``I'm not really concerned about the exchange rate because we more or less
have the same situation that the dollar-yen had last year,'' Liebscher said.
``We will watch it carefully, but one should not be too concerned about the
development in the exchange rate. It's not the goal of the ECB council.''

The euro slid to a new low against the dollar today, as hopes for an end to
the war over Kosovo faded after U.S. President Bill Clinton warned attacks on
Yugoslavia would intensify.

While ECB officials say the euro's development is no cause for concern,
analysts say the ongoing conflict will be costly to European governments and
could hurt Eastern European economies. Even so, some commentators point out
that a less valuable euro can encourage Western European growth by making
products less expensive for customers abroad.

``The lower exchange rate is an indirect sponsorship program for the European
economy,'' Johannes Farnleitner, the Austrian Minister for Economic Affairs,
said today.

ECB's Contribution

While Liebscher downplayed concerns about the European economy, he added the
ECB council did its part for the euro bloc's growth by cutting its benchmark
refinancing rate half a percentage point to 2.5 percent last week.

He said it's now up to each government to change economic policies in line
with the euro countries' so-called stability pact, which is intended to
reduce government deficits and debt.

``The prime goal for me is that policy makers really stick to the stability
pact...and reach balanced budgets or even surpluses,'' said Liebscher,
attending the launch of an education package to boost schoolchildren's
awareness of Europe's single currency.

Governments ``are forced to, and they should, speed up structural reforms
like deregulation, getting rid of bureaucracy, and creating new jobs in
respect of new enterprises,'' he said.

Liebscher highlighted the importance of tackling unemployment in the euro 11
countries, though said he was satisfied with Austria's own jobless rate.

Austria's Low Unemployment

``The Austrian situation itself is quite different because we have an
unemployment rate of 4.2 percent, which is, fortunately, one of the lowest
rates within the European Union,'' he said. ``But on the other side,
according to national standards, it's rather high.''

Austria's coalition government last month agreed on a 30 billion schilling
($2.4 billion) tax package aimed at boosting consumer spending, encouraging
companies to invest and creating more jobs.

``I'm convinced we've already seen certain improvements in the last two or
three months, so the situation here is improving,'' Liebscher said.

Austria, which with 3 percent of the euro bloc's output is the area's
seventh-largest economy, also announced plans at the start of the year to
continue posting budget deficits in a four- year deficit-limitation plans.

Reducing Speculation

Liebscher said last week's ECB interest rate reduction, the size of which
surprised many economists, was aimed at bolstering growth in the region and
stamping out speculation about further rate cuts in the future.

While the central bank's independent reputation may benefit from springing
``surprises'' on the market, he said, the decision was based wholly on
policy, since ``we are faced with a quite favorable outlook for price
stability on the one side. And this was, of course, our main basis for that
decision.''

The European Commission forecast last month that economic growth in the euro
11 may slow to 2.2 percent in 1999, from 3 percent last year.

``This is a realistic outlook but optimistic on the other hand because they
say it's more or less a temporary development and we will see the situation
recover next year,'' Liebscher said.

``I also share the feeling that we have seen a robust economy internationally
-- we have improvement in some of the Asian countries and a stabilizing
situation in Latin America. So I think the international environment is quite
favorable for the future,'' Liebescher said.

Liebescher is one of 17 members of the ECB Governing Council, which meets
twice a month to discuss monetary policy and interest rates for the 11
countries that adopted the euro common currency. The council nex

[CTRL] Assassination spreads fear in Belgrade

[Kris Millegan]

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Assassination spreads fear in
Belgrade

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Subject: Assassination spreads fear in Belgrade
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Xjr3000)
Date: Fri, Apr 16, 1999 3:40 AM
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Just last week, a Yugoslav journalist called Slavko Curuvija to ask if he'd
been having any problems since the start of the NATO bombing. "I'm just
waiting," Curuvija answered.  Five months earlier, Curuvija, the editor of
Dnevni Telegraf, or Daily Telegraph, had been sentenced to five months in
prison. He'd been convicted under Yugoslavia's draconian Information Law over
an article he'd published concerning a scandal involving the Yugoslav United
Front, an organization associated with Mijiana Markovic, wife of the Yugoslav
president Slobodan Milosevic. He had yet to begin serving his sentence.
   But instead of a prison cell, Curuvija received several bullets in the back
-- gunned down in front of his house Sunday evening by masked youths. His
companion, the historian Branka Prpa, was beaten. The assailants left 17 empty
bullet casings on the street and a widespread climate of fear throughout
Belgrade.
   "The killing of Curuvija is a message for people in the inner circle who
might plot against Milosevic," said one Belgrade human rights activist. "Now
they are all trembling."
  Curuvija's death may be considered the first political assassination of the
war in Serbia proper (excluding Kosovo). It may well presage a crackdown on
any
opposition to the regime -- whether among opposition politicians, human-rights
activists and the independent media or any potential plotters amid the ruling
circle itself. It continues the campaign against the press which has been
under
way since last fall when the Belgrade regime imposed its Information Law.
Curuvija himself had been one of its first victims. In the days preceding the
October agreement on Kosovo between Milosevic and U.S. envoy Richard
Holbrooke,
Curuvija published a scathing attack on the regime's ten years in
power in his monthly magazine European. "Serbia," he wrote, "is dead already."
He was fined $240,000.
  -Anthony Borden, _Global Beat_ news, April 14, 1999

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Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
Kris

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[CTRL] What's Wrong with USPS? - 1 of 2

[Kris Millegan]

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Om
K
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What's  Wrong with USPS? - 1
of 2

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Subject: What's  Wrong with USPS? - 1 of 2
From: Col Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, Apr 16, 1999 7:30 AM
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WHAT’S WRONG WITH THE POSTAL SERVICE? * - 1 of 2

“We labour first of all to draw into our Association all good and
learned writers. This we imagine will be the easier obtained, as they
must derive an evident advantage from it. Next to such men we seek to
gain the masters and secretaries of the Post-Offices, in order to
facilitate our correspondence.”

>From the papers of the German Union, which, with the Grand Orient Lodge
in Paris, comprised THE ILLUMINATI, a secret society founded by Adam
Weishaupt, in Bavaria, on 1 May 1776, and financed, in part by an
international banking cartel. Quotation published in the book, “Proofs
of a Conspiracy”, by John Robison, p. 169, (1798).
  
In a series of carefully orchestrated moves the spiritual heirs of Adam
Weishaupt, author of the grand design for world government, have
succeeded in gaining control over the U.S. Postal Service to
“facilitate” their correspondence and, ultimately choke off dissenting
voices.

The unfolding plan began in Paris in 1947, when the United Nations
established a world mail scheme called, “The Universal Postal System”.

At this juncture, the U.S. Postal System was still under the supervision
of Congress. On 4 April 1967, however, the first serious assault, which
was to transfer control of U.S. mails to a private corporation, was made
against the American people. On this date The Wall Street Journal ran a
propaganda feature, “Converting Post Office to Nonprofit Firm Run by
Government Is Proposed by O’Brian”.

Mr. Lawrence O’Brian, then Postmaster General, said that turning the
Post Office into a corporation “is the only way to achieve the
superlative service President Johnson has mandated, postal service
worthy of the American Standard”.

O’Brian was not merely the Postmaster General. He was an influential
Wall Street executive with offices at 120 Broadway, New York City. Close
contact with international banking interests made O’Brian the perfect
tool for effecting transfer of authority over U.S. mails into private
hands. Next to command of money and military (achieved by the Federal
Reserve Act of 1913 and the United Nations Treaty of 1945) the mails was
third in Association priority to achieving mastery over the American
society.

CITIZENS’ COMMITTEE FOR POSTAL REFORM
Five days following O’Brian’s improbable declaration, President Lyndon
Johnson appointed a “blue ribbon” panel to “examine the structure of the
postal system”. The New York Times, in an article dated 9 April 1967,
“Johnson Asks Mail Study; Names Survey Panel of 10” revealed the men on
the panel. It then became apparent that only one result could be
expected - a postal system under the control of multi-national
financiers and industrialists!

THE PRESIDENT'S PANEL ON U.S. POSTAL SYSTEM SURVEY
FREDERICK R. KAPPEL, Member, Council on Foreign Relations, Chairman.
Former board member, American Telephone & Telegraph Company.
GEORGE BAKER, Member, Council of Foreign Relations, Dean of Harvard
Graduate School of Business Administration.
DAVID BELL, Member, Council on Foreign Relations; President, Ford
Foundation.
FRED BORCH, President, General Electric Company.
DAVID GINSBURG, Attorney, Washington, D.C.
RALPH LAZARUS, Grand Operator, international finance. Featured in
announcements of the Business Advisory Council, a CFR affiliate. BAC was
established by Sidney Weinberg of Goldman Sach’s & Co., one of eight
interlocking financial groups which control U.S. economy.
GEORGE MEANEY, President, American Federation of Labor & Congress of
Industrial Organization.
WILLIAM BEVERLY MURPHY, Member, Business Advisory Council, inner circle
of the Council on Foreign Relations; President, Campbell Soup Company.
J. IRWIN MILLER, Member, Council on Foreign Relations; Board member,
Cummins Engine Company.
RUDOLPH A. PETERSON, Associate of Fred Lazarus in Committee for Economic
Development; President, Bank of America.

Upon announcement of the “Citizens’ Committee for Postal Reform,”
O’Brian proposed the establishment of “… a Government corporation to
handle the mails,” and called for a non-profit organization operated by
a board of directors appointed by the President and confirmed by the
Congress. This window dressing lulled the people into a belief that
Washington would act in their best interest.

INDEPENDENT POST OFFICE
A year and a half went by. Then, on 16 July 1968, the “President’s
Panel,” announced their proposal for an “Independent Post Office” (New
York Post, 16 July 1968).

“A commission named by President Johnson urged today the creation of a
special corporation to operate the nations’ postal service,” said the
Post, “and the elimination of all political jobs in the m

[CTRL] Luciferian fraud in Yugoslavia

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

from alt.conspiracy
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As always, Caveat Lector.
Om
K
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Luciferian fraud in Yugoslavia

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Subject: Luciferian fraud in Yugoslavia
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kansan1225)
Date: Fri, Apr 16, 1999 7:30 AM
Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The clandestine Luciferian Masonic Conspirators who control the governments of
this world are perpetrating another scam in Yugoslavia to bring in the New
World Order,
a.k.a. the Kingdom of the Antichrist.

No Luciferian scam production is carried out without the appropriate
symbolism. In
this case, the bombing by NATO started on March 24. This date happens to be a
feast day
for Zacharias, the father of St. John the Baptist, one of the two "patron
saints" of Free
Masonry. March 24 is also exactly three months from June 24, the feast of the
birthday of
St. John the Baptist himself. Apparently, the Conspirators are planning to
keep this
"conflict" going for at least three months.

Many Luciferian attacks against the people of God take place around Easter
time. For
example, Abraham Lincoln was assassinated on Good Friday in 1865. On April
19, 1995,
the Federal Government cleansed 168 citizens of Oklahoma City, three days
after Easter
Sunday. The reason that this time of the year is picked is to conduct
counterfeit Paschal
Lamb sacrifices.

After the bombing started, on March 24, Moslems celebrated the Eid al-Adha,
or Feast
of Sacrifice, on March 27. This Moslem feast is associated with the annual
pilgrimage to
Mecca and commemorates Abraham's sacrifice. Lambs and other animals are
sacrificed by
Moslems to celebrate this Eid. A few days later, on March 31, on the second
Blue Full
Moon of this year, Jews started the celebration of Passover, another
religious feast
commemorating the slaughter of innocent lambs. On April 4 Catholics and
Protestants
celebrated Easter, the Resurrection of the True Paschal Lamb, Jesus Christ.
Finally, on
April 11, Orthodox Christians celebrated their Easter. This last holiday fell
on the
nineteenth day of the bombing campaign. This was a Luciferian reminder of the
19-year
Metonic cycle of the moon. The Metonic cycle is used to calculate the date of
Easter
Sunday and other movable feasts.

The slaughter of innocent lambs in Yugoslavia has continued unabated. The
murderers are equal opportunity butchers. Serbs are killing Albanians,
Albanians are
killing Serbs, while NATO conducts multicultural massacres. Meanwhile, CLuM
Brothers
Billy Blythe Clinton, Slobodan "The Slave" Milosevic, Ibrahim "The Rat"
Rugova, Javier
"Solo" Solana, Wesley "Supreme Being" Clark and the rest are crying crocodile
tears all
the way to their banks. And let us not forget CLuM Sisters Madeleine "Brooch"
Albright
and CIA plant Christiane "A Man" Amanpour.

We should not also forget that, during this crucial time in NWO developments,
the
highest-ranking U.S. military officer is General Hugh "Who?" Shelton, the
Chairman of
the Joint Chiefs of Staff. This gentleman used to be the commander of Special
Forces
before this appointment. Of course, the Special Forces carry out sabotage
behind enemy
lines and other assorted black projects. Remember that Timothy McVeigh was
supposed
to join the Special Forces, but was "rejected". My theory is that he was
given a more
"special" assignment by the military, the extermination of 168 fellow
citizens in OKC for
the greater glory of the NWO. General Hugh "Who?" Shelton is also responsible
for the
market-place bombing in Sarajevo (February 1994), the "terrorist" bombings
against
Americans in Saudi Arabia (Riyadh, 11/13/95; Khobar, 6/25/96), and many other
"atrocities".

These serial mass murderers are helping to bring about the Kingdom of the
Antichrist.
They work through the Masonic-blue NATO, or the Masonic-blue U.N., however,
their
real master is always Lucifer/Satan.

My guess is that by the time June 24, 1999, the Birthday Feast of St. John
the Baptist,
comes about, another, much greater scam will be in full swing in Israel and
the Middle East.
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Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
Omnia Bona Bonis,
All My Relations.
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
Roads End
Kris

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[CTRL] Fwd: [MC] AN APPEAL TO TROOPS FROM RAMSEY CLARK

[Kris Millegan]

--- URGENT: Please forward this to everyone you know who is
in contact with troops in Europe. This is a mind control issue
because we're dealing with the same twisted mentality. --

ALERT 4/13/99
AN APPEAL TO TROOPS FROM RAMSEY CLARK

http://www.iacenter.org/bosnia/troops.htm
[Ramsey Clark is the former U.S. Attorney General of the United States]

The International Action Center urges all anti-war and anti-imperialist
forces to find ways to deliver this message to the rank-and-file troops of
the U.S. military.

AN APPEAL TO TROOPS
 Are you a member of the U.S. Armed Forces? Do you have a friend or
relative who is a member of the U.S. Armed Forces? If so, this message
is meant for you.
 President Clinton and the Pentagon generals have put you in harm's way.
They pretend they care about you. They say they would do anything to
protect your life. But they have put you in danger.  They did this by
ordering
an attack on Yugoslavia.  Clinton has said U.S. aims are "humanitarian."
But Clinton has lied before. He lied about his personal relations. He lied
about his political fund-raising. He lied about the pharmaceutical plant in
Sudan being a "chemical-weapons factory." He lied about getting U.S.
troops out of Bosnia by the end of 1996. They're still there.
 He is lying about the attack on Yugoslavia.   U.S. planes are bombing
a sovereign country. Yugoslavia's soldiers have crossed no borders. They
threaten no other country. Yet they are under NATO attack.  The Pentagon
generals say NATO is only bombing military targets--anti-aircraft batteries,
command centers, air defense centers, etc. But pictures from Serbia and
Montenegro show bombed schools, hospitals, houses and factories.
 Yugoslavia is a small country with several different national
groupings.
The U.S. and its allies are much bigger and more powerful. But the 11
million people who live there are furious that U.S. bombs are killing their
children. They know they are defending their country. They feel the moral
right to strike back. And because Clinton and the generals have ordered
the attack, you will be a target of this fury.
 If-- and the generals are talking about it already--they send you into
Yugoslavia to kill, you will find the entire population ready to rise up
against you. And though Yugoslavia is small, during World War II
Yugoslav partisans--guerrillas-pinned down 300,000 troops from the
German Wehrmacht and finally defeated them.  On demonstrations here
against the U.S. bombing assault, thousands of people are chanting,
"Kosovo is Vietnam." It brings up the memory of the last time U.S.
troops tried to occupy a country. All Vietnam rose up against them
and drove them out.
 During that war, a U.S. lieutenant--William Calley--led his troops in
the burning of a Vietnamese village, killing 330 women, men and children.
Calley just took a little further what the Pentagon had ordered--a burn all,
kill all assault on the civilian population. Atrocities like that also led
many
U.S. soldiers to drug addiction, suicide and mental breakdowns.
But there were other U.S. troops who resisted the war. Hundreds of
thousands refused to go into aggressive action. Others refused to fight.
Some actively organized their buddies against the war. Some felt the war
was so unjust that they went over to the other side. Finally the generals
decided they had better get out.
 Some 55,000 U.S. troops were killed in that aggression on the other
side of the world. Many young men were sent home in body bags before
thousands began to resist.  You still have the chance to resist this war--
before you become a target. You have the right to speak out against it.
You have the right to pass out leaflets and organize against this war.
You can refuse to re-up as a protest. You can refuse to take the anthrax
vaccine and other preparations for chemical and biological warfare.
 You have the power to stop the Pentagon's unjust war against the
people of Yugoslavia.  Use it.

Ramsey Clark
International Action Center
39 West 14 Street, Room 206
New York, NY 10011
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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(212) 633-6646 fax:  (212) 633-2889

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[Kris Millegan]

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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe
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Cypherpunks on Trail

Days 3 and 4 of the Carl Johnson Show Trial

Expert testimony on the nature of a "mailing list"

Subject: FC: Day 3 of Washington State Cypherpunk Trial
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:59:02 -0700
From: Declan McCullagh
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am writing this from the 16th floor of the Sheraton in Tacoma,
Washington, overlooking a humorless and silent downtown. Somewhere
nearby -- I don' t know exactly where -- a cypherpunk is sitting behind
bars waiting for his trial to resume in the morning. The charge: That he
is guilty of posting three threatening messages to the cypherpunks
mailing list. The government is asking for years and years of prison
time as punishment. I suppose the exact number (a decade? 20 years?)
will depend on the federal sentencing guidelines, rules that I've never
been quite able to figure out myself.

On Thursday morning John Gilmore will take the witness stand again. He
testified on Wednesday about what a mailing list is, and the defense
counsel gets to ask him questions in the morning. A few government folks
are in line after him, but neither the prosecutor nor IRS agent Jeff
Gordon has revealed who will testify next.

I'm told there's no trial on Friday. So unless I get called to testify
Thursday-- a long shot, I'm told -- I will be back out here next week. I
don't know if the Department of Justice will try to force me to stay in
Tacoma over the weekend or not.


Free Speech on Trial in Tacoma

by Declan McCullagh

Wired News, April 15, 1999
TACOMA, Washington -- Very few Americans like the IRS, especially when
April 15 rolls around.

But most taxpayers are discreet enough to keep their feelings to
themselves, and not mouth off about how nice it would be to see the IRS
eliminated. At least, not on an electronic mailing list populated with
Treasury Department agents.

Carl Johnson, however, is not someone known for his discretion.

The gruff, bearded man, an itinerant musician and longtime computer
geek, spent much of last year railing online against Bill Gates, various
federal officials, and IRS agents.

The IRS claims he went too far, crossing the line from hypothetical
discussions of violence against "Law Enfarcement Offals" to actual
threats. Based on three email messages allegedly typed by Johnson and
sent to the cypherpunks mailing list, prosecutors arrested him and
charged him with five counts of threats and obstruction of justice.

The trial began here this week. Through his attorney, Johnson has denied
the charges, saying anything he wrote is protected by the First
Amendment's guarantees of freedom of speech.

He may have a point. The vast majority of messages the government says
Johnson wrote are darkly rambling satire, a kind of ASCII performance
art, with titles such as "SPACE ALIENS HIDE MY DRUGS!!"

One message likened the author to Patrick Henry. "The irony, of course,
is that I do not pose a great danger to anyone but myself as long as I
continue to have my human rights and my liberty unthreatened."

The Supreme Court has said that advocating violence against government
officials cannot be punished. In a 1969 case, the justices debated
whether a Ku Klux Klan leader could be jailed for saying: "If our
President, our Congress, our Supreme Court, continues to suppress the
white, Caucasian race, it's possible that there might have to be some
revengeance [sic] taken." The verdict: No. Such a law punishes "mere
advocacy," the court decided. Earlier that year the court ruled that a
man's stated wish to kill the president was political hyperbole.

Johnson's attorney says his client's statements were also simple
hyperbole.

"They're outrageous statements made in a political forum as part of a
political forum as part of a political discussion. It's obviously a
parody and a spoof," Gene Grantham said in an interview Wednesday. "No
rational person would be incited to do anything on the basis of those
communications."

The political discussion in question? A lawsuit sponsored by the
Electronic Frontier Foundation that challenges the White House's
restrictions on overseas shipments of encryption products. On 8 December
1997, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco heard the
government's appeal in the case.

The next day, a message titled "Encrypted InterNet DEATH THREAT!!!"
appeared on the cypherpunks mailing list. The loose-knit group discusses
the social and political impact of privacy-protecting software.

The note, which mentioned the names of the judges hearing the case,
read: "I will share the same 'DEATH THREAT!!!' with Judges Fletcher,
Nelson, and Bright that I have shared with the President and a host of
Congressional and Senatorial representatives. 'You can fuck some of the
people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you
are goi

[CTRL] Fwd: DRUDGE-REPORT 4/15/99

[Kris Millegan]

X DRUDGE REPORT X 04/15/99 23:58:22 UTC X


PENTAGON TO ASK FOR 30,000 RESERVISTS FOR WAR

The Pentagon plans to ask President Clinton to call up about 30,000
reservists and National Guard members to bolster the attack against
Yugoslavia, the NEW YORK TIMES is set to report in Friday editons. 

The Pentagon is still working out the details of which units will be called
up, the paper reports.  "While a senior defense official said the total
would be around 30,000, an administration official said it could be as high
as 33,000. By law, Clinton can authorize the activation of 200,000
reservists National Guard members."

The call up would be the largest single activation since the Persian Gulf
war in 1990.

Of the $5.9 billion in emergency spending the White House is expected to
request from Congress, a dramatic increase over previous estimates, nearly
5.4 billion would cover the cost of reservists' salaries, fuel and other
supplies and munitions, reports the TIMES in its Friday lead.


   X X X X X 

MONEY MAN CHUNG SUBPOENAED, WILL BE CALLED TO TESTIFY BEFORE CONGRESS

**Exclusive Details**

Dan Burton bounces back.  The DRUDGE REPORT learned late Thursday night that
former Democratic fund-raiser Johnny Chung will be subpoenaed to appear
before a congressional committee.  The subpoena, which will be issued in the
morning, calls for Chung to appear on May 27 and 28 before the House
Government Reform Committee.  

With TV cameras running, Chung will be questioned in great detail about what
he knows, and Chung has indicated that he will fully cooperate with the
committee, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

The House Government Reform Committee wrote Attorney General Janet Reno
requesting permission to question Chung on April 7 after a story appeared in
the LOS ANGELES TIMES.

The story stunned the city:  China's head of military intelligence took
funds from Beijing and secretly spent them to reelect President Clinton,
Chung has told federal investigators. 

"Chung's testimony has provided investigators the first, direct link between
a senior Chinese government official and illicit foreign contributions that
were funneled into Clinton's 1996 reelection effort," the TIMES reported.

Late Thursday, AG Reno gave the green light for the committee to subpoena Chung.

Reno put no limitations on the questioning, according to senior government
sources.

"Chung wants to tell his story, in public," one well-placed source told the
DRUDGE REPORT late Thursday night from Washington.

   X X X X X 


HOW CNN LEARNED TO LOVE THE BOMB, 'NIGHTLINE' TOO

There are reports tonight out of Yugoslavia of complete carnage and chaos in
the wake of the continued NATO bombing.

But hold on to your TIME WARNER stock, CNN again issues a press release
announcing that its TV ratings are booming with the bombings.

On the ground smoldering skeletons and a woman cut in half... a man's head
lying in a field with the wind blowing his brown hair against the grass, and
corpses lying in a squalid hospital nearby: details from the horror scene of
the refugee caravan bombing reported by London's INDEPENDENT newspaper on
Friday, coming only days after the passenger train bombing.

But to every story there's a silver lining.  And down in Atlanta at CNN
headquarters, it's been press release after press release during the Crises
in Kosovo.

"In primetime, the network posted a 1.1 rating...  an increase of 22%,"
rejoiced CNN's David Bittler and Alison Rudnick in a press release that
moved on AP EXPRESS wires midweek.

"The network series of four primetime Special Reports on the crisis in
Yugoslavia posted a 1.2 rating and delivered 895,000 households."  Up.

Bittler and Rudnick point out increase by increase, daypart by daypart.

LATE EDITION airing Sunday on CNN "experienced increases of 100%" during
last week's NATO runs.  CROSSFIRE lifts 38% over a year ago; INSIDE POLITICS
surged 80%.

The practice of issuing vaunting press releases celebrating increased
viewership during wartime is not a CNN exclusive.

On Thursday, ABC NEWS, in a press release, played up a NIGHTLINE win for
last week's 90-minute broadcast BAD OPTIONS: THE CRISIS IN KOSOVO, even
breaking the numbers down into Madison Avenue-friendly demographics.

Koppel's Kosovo coverage kicked Conan!

ABC NEWS declares in a press release:  In adults 25-54, Koppel pulled
2,210,000 over NBC's 2,150,000.

Lettermankilborn trailed with 1,890,000.

[Laugh track]

   X X X X X 

MONICA HURTS SHOULDER SIGNING AUTOGRAPHS

Monica Lewinsky is signing so many copies of her book on her European tour,
she actually dislocated her shoulder.  Michael Isikoff, also out on the
circuit, pushing a book, dreaming of the sensation...

   X X X X X 

POLL:  VOTERS WANT CELEBRITIES IN OFFICE

More and more it seems like national policy is being driven by polls:  

"Po

Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

[Kris Millegan]

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 4/16/99 2:48:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>The Freemasons didn't exist during Shakespeare's time (altho THEY
>might like to claim otherwise, there are no FACTS to support their
>existance before the 18th century)...
>
>
>June

 Well, June there are  ACTUAL lodge books from before the 18th century and
there is substantial evidence of exsistence before the given 1717 Hanoverian
supplication  and   consolidation date.

Cantankerous this morning?

OM
K

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[CTRL] Fw: LM COMMENTARY: New Britain's moral crusdae/04-16-99

[Alamaine Ratliff]

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- Original Message -
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To: LM-commentary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 5:10 AM
Subject: LM COMMENTARY: New Britain's moral crusdae/04-16-99


:
: 'The war against the Serbs is about projecting a self-image of the ethical
: New Britain bestriding the world. It is a crusade'
:
: Mick Hume, LM editor
:
: John Prescott, the deputy prime minister, can denounce 'Mr
: Milloffosoffeffic', but he cannot pronounce him. Robin Cook, the foreign
: secretary, seems to think that Kosovo is being ravaged by President
: Milosevic's 'Siberian forces'. Mr Cook has also assured us that he 'knows'
: that the Serbs executed 20 Albanian teachers in front of their pupils in
: Goden. What he does not appear to know is that Goden is a village with
just
: 200 inhabitants - yet, it seems, with a teacher/pupil ratio beyond even
the
: fantasies of the NUT conference fringe.
:
: The Balkans may no longer seem so faraway, but these are still countries
of
: which our government knows little and cares less. So what did Tony Blair
: mean when he told parliament that the war is being fought 'for a moral
: purpose as much as a strategic interest'? What moral purpose moved Mr
Blair
: to become the first Labour prime minister to lead Britain into a major
: international war, involving democratic socialist air strikes on passenger
: trains, TV transmitters and homes?
:
: The war's moral purpose clearly has little to do with the welfare of the
: region's peoples. Kosovo's Albanians are a hapless army of televisual
: victims whose suffering provides a convenient pretext for war. NATO
: contemptuously bombed their towns and cities. Then, when the air strikes
: precipitated a predictable humanitarian crisis, the 'shocked' West rushed
: in news crews to capture the refugees' tears - 'say "rape camp" for the
: cameras'.
:
: The true position that the Kosovo Albanians hold in Britain's official
: affections is best revealed by the magical transformation these people
: undergo when the lucky few step off the ferry at Dover. Under the terms of
: New Labour's asylum laws, it's goodbye refugees from hell, hello dirty
: scrounging gypsies.
:
: The 'moral purpose' of Mr Blair's war is not to be found in the Balkans,
: but at home. As ever, foreign policy is an extension of domestic politics.
: The war against the Serbs is primarily about giving Mr Blair's government
: an aura of moral authority and a sense of mission. It is about projecting
a
: self-image of the ethical New Britain bestriding the world. It is a
crusade.
:
: Like their medieval predecessors, new Labour's crusaders seem almost
: entirely ignorant of who they are off to fight and why. It is a case of
: 'insert appropriate enemy here', be it President Saddam Hussein or
Slobodan
: Milosevic. All that matters is to find a suitably ugly infidel against
whom
: to prove their own righteousness. Since the government finds it difficult
: to forge a moral consensus in Britain on everything from genetic
: engineering to road-building, it eagerly seizes opportunities to lay down
: the law about what is Right and Wrong on the world stage.
:
: This is what Mr Blair meant when he announced that the war against the
: Serbs is 'no longer just a military conflict. It is a battle between Good
: and Evil; between civilisation and barbarity'. Implicit in this statement
: is that, as a counterpoint to the Evil Mr Milosevic, Mr Blair is a force
: for Good in Britain and around the world. New Labour has appointed itself
: saviour of civilisation, on a noble mission to re-educate the barbarians.
:
: The self-image of New Britain which Mr Blair's crusade seeks to endorse is
: captured by touching pictures of British Army officers bottle-feeding
: Albanian babies and brushing the hair of young refugee girls separated
from
: their parents. This is a nanny state with a difference, claiming the right
: to act in loco parentis for all those it deems deserving. Armed with a
: brick of moral superiority in her handbag, Clare Short, the international
: development minister, can bully Macedonian border officials about not
: acting like civilised Europeans. And behind her, an army of radical
: activists, actors, journalists and others in search of a cause with which
: to make themselves feel better, have signed on for new Labour's religious
war.
:
: As a new crusade, Mr Blair's war need not be restrained by the rules of
: realpolitik. All that matters is that Something Must Be Done, and let's
: worry about the consequences later. The out-of-control character of this
: adventure raises serious questions about where it all might end.
:
: No doubt Mr Blair and his followers sincerely believe their war is a just
: moral cause. After all, the righteous (or in this case the self-righteous)
: can do no wrong. But those who think that anything goes so long as the
: Kosovo Albanians are saved might remember what happened to previous
victims
: picked by Western liber

[CTRL] VA Surgery

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R >>



>From Wash (DC) Post

VA Planning Major Layoffs
1,100-Plus Jobs May Be Lost at Medical Facilities
By Bill McAllister
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 16, 1999; Page A27

More than 1,106 workers at veterans hospitals face loss of their jobs under
reductions in force approved this week by Veterans Affairs Secretary Togo D.
West Jr.

VA officials said yesterday that requests for additional RIFs at nine VA
medical facilities are awaiting West's approval. Overall, it could be one of
the biggest layoffs any federal department has approved in recent years.

The VA was moving ahead with the reductions even as lawmakers were
squabbling over how much to add to the Clinton administration's $44 billion
VA budget for fiscal 2000. A senior VA official, speaking on condition of
anonymity, could not offer assurance that some layoffs would be averted even
with additional funds.

Some of the staff cuts stem from budgetary problems faced by the
department's network of nearly 170 hospitals, the official said. Others are
because of changes in how the VA delivers health care to the nation's 25
million veterans, he said. The department is moving away from hospital-based
care toward community-based outpatient clinics that offer preventive care.
The result is that many hospital workers are no longer needed, the official
said.

Most of the announced 1,106 layoffs would be at VA hospitals in the North,
mainly in New York, New Jersey and Illinois. They result, in part, from
recent legislation that directed the department to shift funds to hospitals
in the Sun Belt. The migration of elderly veterans to those states has
crowded VA hospitals there, creating longer waits for doctor appointments
and other services.

There was no mention of RIFs at any Washington area facilities in the
downsizings approved by West, officials said. The VA's Washington health
care headquarters lost about 253 positions, or 20 percent of its staff, in
1996. The VA has conducted a number of small RIFs at hospitals in other
areas in the past two years.

The department asked Congress this week for renewed authority for
buyouts--payments of up to $25,000 to encourage employees to leave the
payroll.

Under federal personnel law, federal workers must be given 60 days' notice
of a layoff. The RIF procedures triggered by the law then allow senior
workers to "bump" others in lower-level positions and to transfer to other
federal installations if comparable jobs are vacant.

As early as 1996, VA officials were warning that the department, without
sharp budget increases, faced layoffs of up to 10,000 workers, including
physicians and nurses.

Last year they issued similar warnings, saying the VA urgently needed new
sources of revenue, especially Medicare reimbursements, if it was to avoid
large-scale layoffs this year. Congress did not approve the Medicare plan
and the administration did not budge from its plans not to increase veterans
health care spending.

The flat VA budget has prompted an intense lobbying effort by veterans
groups and a firestorm between Democrats and Republicans over how much to
add to the VA budget. On Wednesday, several leaders of the Senate and House
Veterans Affairs committees hailed an agreement by budget conferees to add
$1.7 billion to the VA's 2000 health care budget.

Rep. Lane Evans (Ill.), ranking Democrat on the House panel, objected to the
spending agreement, however, calling it "a wolf in sheep's clothing." He
said it will cut the VA's discretionary spending, which goes largely to the
hospitals, by $1.4 billion in 2001.


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Subj:   I'm 25 miles from Ft. Carson...
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...shall I drive up, take pics, talk to people there...is there anything any
of you want me to do?
Lari



Army Builds Balkan Village In Rockies
(New York Times, April 15, 1999)

The Army is converting 150 square miles of Ft. Carson in the Rocky Mountains
into a Balkan stage set, complete with four villages and a copy of the U.S.
military base in Tuzla, Bosnia.  In 10 weeks, the site will be ready to train
soldiers of the Third Armored Cavalry Regiment, who ship out for Bosnia next
February.  "This is strictly for Bosnia, nowhere else," said a base
spokesman.  "I don't want anyone to get the impression that this is for
Kosovo."


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 WSWS : News & Analysis : Europe : The Balkan Crisis

The Kosovo refugee crisis and the Holocaust: How the German government
defends its military policy
By Ulrich Rippert
16 April 1999
Three weeks of permanent air attacks by NATO have been insufficient to bring
Serbia to heel. The commanders of the Alliance forces have reacted with
intensified air strikes and preparations for the intervention of ground
troops. Increasingly it is civilian targets which are being identified and
hit in the strikes. The NATO war is rapidly developing into a form of
general terror against the Serb population.

At the same time the doubts and questions regarding the purpose of the war
have grown. The original propaganda, which claimed that the offensive was
being waged for humanitarian purposes, has long since been overtaken by
reality. The editor of Germany's major news magazine Der Spiegel has posed
the question: "What are we doing in the Balkans?" The co-editor of the
weekly Die Zeit newspaper, Theo Summer, asks: "Is there the danger of a
fiasco?" and hesitatingly but clearly answers his own question in the
affirmative. Former SPD (Social Democratic Party) chancellor Helmut Schmidt
has delivered his own devastating judgement: "International law has been
broken at the behest of the Americans. This war is a mistake." Even the
ultra-patriotic Bild newspaper has expressed doubts: "Is the war correct?"

Under these conditions the ruling German coalition government of the SPD and
the Greens have pulled out all the stops and begun a propaganda campaign
which, in terms of demagogy and manipulation, puts all previous efforts in
the shade.

Defence Minister Rudolf Scharping (SPD), up until now a colourless political
technocrat with sleep-inducing rhetoric and the charisma of an office
manager, suddenly functions as the principal demagogue for the military
brass.

At the first press conference, immediately following the beginning of the
war, Scharping delivered a warning to journalists, demanding that they
openly exercise self-censorship. Every word critical of the NATO offensive
must be avoided, he argued, because it would strengthen the enemy, prolong
the war and therefore lead to increasing numbers of victims amongst the NATO
and German troops. However, this attempt to revive the infamous "Dolchstoß"
Legend* showed little signs of working. Critical voices became louder.

Over the past few days the government has stepped up the war of words. Now,
according to Defence Minister Scharping and Foreign Minister Joschka
Fischer, the behaviour of Slobodan Milosevic must be compared to the
"inhuman activities of Adolf Hitler". Fischer declared to journalists that
the actions of the Serb militias against the drained and exhausted refugees
reminded him of the worst pictures of the burning down of the Warsaw ghetto.
"For the first time in this century Germany is on the right side," Fischer
added. And at every available opportunity Scharping has repeated his formula
that the "unimaginable cruelty in Kosovo recalls the twisted face of
Germany's past".

With increasing clarity they draw a parallel with the National Socialist
holocaust. Every press statement by the foreign and defence ministries is
loaded with the appropriate vocabulary: "massacres, slaughterhouses,
selection, concentration camp, mountains of bodies".

Der Spiegel reported a week ago on a "media offensive" by the defence
ministry aimed at defusing the growing criticism. "Air reconnaissance photos
must prove the existence of concentration camps in Kosovo. Scharping and the
chancellor's office have ordered the urgent acquisition of such items of
evidence Since last Monday the German army sends out unmanned
reconnaissance planes stationed in Macedonia, Tornados are also taking part
in the search As soon as the photographic evidence has been acquired the
government intends to use it to justify its war effort. In this way the
Russians will also be publicly put under pressure. The search continued
until the middle of the week without success. A German reconnaissance plane
took photos of the sports stadium in Pristina--an alleged concentration
camp--but the stadium was empty."

The daily press conferences by the defence ministry are aimed exclusively at
issuing instructions, not providing information. Any critical questions are
sharply rebuffed. Die Zeit questioned: "What lay behind the furious
eruptions--on one occasion by Fischer, another time by Scharping--merely
because the media were not willing to clearly distinguish between
perpetrator and victim, were not prepared to accept as fact the 'cynicism',
the 'mountains of bodies', the 'concentration camps' or 'the slaughter
house'?"

Any comparison between Milosevic's soldiers and the bunch of murderers
organised in the SA and the SS, or the drawing of parallels between the
present refugee camps and the destruction chambers of the Nazis, involves a
massive distortion of history.

Six 

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The 1999 Pulitzers--prizes for Ken Starr's allies
By Martin McLaughlin
16 April 1999
The awarding of the Pulitzer Prizes for journalism is an incestuous process
in which the owners of the biggest newspaper monopolies pay tribute to each
other and reward their underlings among the editors, columnists and
reporters. But even by the dismal standards of the American press, the 1999
awards were scandalous, especially the two prizes given to representatives
of the New York Times: Maureen Dowd, for distinguished commentary, and Jeff
Gerth, for national reporting.

The Pulitzers are given out in a two-stage process. Juries of a half dozen
editors or specialists in particular fields choose three finalists in each
category. Then the larger Pulitzer board, consisting mainly of executives,
chooses the winners.

There is barely a pretense of impartiality. The Wall Street Journal 's
foreign editor was in the jury which selected the Journal as a finalist for
international reporting. The executive photo editor of the Associated Press
served on juries which selected the AP as a finalist for both spot news and
feature photography. William Safire, long-time conservative columnist for
the New York Times, is a member of the Pulitzer board which voted awards to
his colleagues Dowd and Gerth.

The awards to the two Times writers had a definite political significance.
They are an attempt by the media establishment to validate retroactively the
hysterical campaign waged against the Clinton White House, in collaboration
with Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr, the congressional Republican
leadership, and the extreme right-wing elements who financed and directed
the Paula Jones lawsuit.

Jeff Gerth won the award for national reporting on the alleged transfer of
American satellite technology to the Chinese military through contracts
approved by the Clinton administration. He is the Times reporter who, early
in the 1992 election campaign, penned the first story on Clinton's
involvement in the failed Whitewater real estate development. This story was
to be the starting point for the 1993 media frenzy which led to the
appointment of a special prosecutor, the protracted Starr investigation and,
ultimately, Clinton's impeachment trial.

Gerth's reporting on Whitewater has been exposed as shoddy and tendentious
in numerous publications and in a useful book, How the Media Invented
Whitewater, by long-time Little Rock columnist Gene Lyons. It was revealed
only a few weeks ago that Gerth's Whitewater "reporting" amounted to taking
handouts from Clinton's right-wing enemies in Arkansas. James McDougal,
Clinton's former partner in Whitewater and Gerth's principal source for the
story, received a five-figure sum from Sheffield Nelson, Clinton's
Republican opponent in the 1990 gubernatorial race, to speak to the Times
reporter.

Gerth's reporting last year on Chinese technology acquisition was part of an
abortive attempt by the media and congressional Republicans to attach
accusations of "selling secrets to China" to the overall Whitewater/Lewinsky
charges against the White House. Last month Gerth published a highly dubious
front-page report in the Times about alleged Chinese espionage at Los Alamos
National Laboratory, the latest effort to resuscitate the anti-Clinton
campaign.

Columnist Maureen Dowd is the personification of the subjectivism that
characterized the editorials, commentaries and news coverage of the Times
throughout the Monica Lewinsky affair. Many of her columns amounted to
little more than name-calling. Take, for example, one from last summer,
devoted to disparaging the character and personal appearance of Monica
Lewinsky, who was the target of the following epithets, all in the space of
800 words: "like a little girl," "pudgy," "a mallrat," "a plaything." Truly
prize-winning stuff.

In a column last fall Dowd reported she had accidentally encountered
Lewinsky at an airport. When Lewinsky asked her, quite understandably, why
her columns were so hateful and personally vicious, Dowd was unable to
respond. Yet according to the full-page celebratory ad published by the
Times on Tuesday, "nobody got to the heart of the story more quickly and
more consistently than she did."

In reality Dowd never displayed the slightest understanding of the objective
political significance of the attempt to overturn the results of two
presidential elections by a quasi-constitutional coup, utilizing the Starr
investigation. Fixated on Clinton's sex life, she functioned as an ally of
Starr and the right wing for nearly a year.

Then late in 1998, after the House Judiciary Committee had voted to move
ahead with impeachment proceedings, Dowd began to back away from the
anti-Clinton campaign. The Times ad covers up this 

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: Search by candidate, state, or zip code. If all the candidates had filed
: electronically with the FEC, you'd now have a full set of donors. Have
: fun.
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: In our general discussions and in my series, issues affecting health are
: a major part of what needs to be talked about.  And so I do.
:
: More people are sick than ever before, and medical costs continue to
: skyrocket.  Why?  Simply stated, their is an almost total lack of
: nutrition
: in the American diet.  This is not necessary, but it is true, and this
: will
: get much worse over the next several years.  This is one of the issues I
: go into in some depth in my series, and for the young and the elderly
: amoung us, it is a subject of paramount importance.  Of course, it is
: relatively important for those who wish to reach an advanced age as well.
:
: That being said, one of the big factors in the health problems facing
: many people, particularly those with weakened systems do to poor
: nutrition,
: is chemical factors we "voluntarily", generally through our ignorance and
: the
: culpability of the major, money-hungry corporations, introduce into our
: bodies.  In previous posts, we have discussed Aspartame and Canola Oil.
: But, it is not just what we put into ur mouths that causes a problem.
:
:
: Dear family and friends:
: Check the ingredients listed on your shampoo bottle, and see if they
: have a substance by the name of Sodium Laureth Sulfate, or simply
: SLS.
:
: This substance is found in most shampoos, and the manufacturers
: use it because it produces a lot of foam and it is cheap. BUT the fact
: is that SLS is used to scrub garage floors, and it is very strong.  It is
: also proven that it can cause cancer in the long run, and this is no
: joke. I went home and checked my shampoo (Vidal Sasoon); it
: doesn't contain it; however, others such as Vo5, Palmolive, Paul
: Mitchell, the new Hemp Shampoo, contains this substance.  The first
: ingredient listed (which means it is the single most prevalent
: ingredient) in Clairol's Herbal Essences is Sodium Laureth Sulfate.
: So I called one company, and I told them their product contains a
: substance that will cause people to have cancer. They said, "Yeah,
: we knew about it but there is nothing we can do about it because we
: need that substance to produce foam.
:
: By the way, Colgate toothpaste also contains the same substance to
: produce the "bubbles." They said they are going to send me some
: information.
:
: Research has shown that in the 1980s, the chance of getting cancer
: is 1 out of 8000 and now, in the 1990s, the chances of getting cancer
: is 1 out of 3, which is very serious.
:
: So, I hope that you will take this seriously and pass this on to all the
: people you know, and hopefully, we can stop "giving" ourselves the
: cancer virus (I hate wrong information!  Cancer is not caused by a virus!
: See Part X of my series to understand. - David).  This is serious. After
: you have read this, pass it on to as many people as possible, this is not
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: I urge you to pass this post on to others, as they may need to
: understand what is going on.  We all have a moral obligation
: to help understanding and knowledge spread across America.
: "But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet
: to warn the people and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them,
: that man will be taken away because of his sin, but I will hold the
: watchman
: accountable for his blood."  Ezekiel 33:6 (NIV)   
:
: The cost of liberty is eternal vigilance  
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: I am now selling copies of the book "Strategic Withdrawal; the Peaceful
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: Withdrawal in a Nutshell," please E-mail me and request it at
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: just like you (no cost; no obligation).  There are currently 18 papers in
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[CTRL] "Humanitarian" Becomes Scarey Word (fwd)

[Brian Redman]

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"HUMANITARIAN" BECOMES SCAREY WORD
==

(CNNS, 04/16/99)  --  Watch  out  when  you  hear,  "I'm from the
government, and I'm here to help you."  Likewise, a new  sign  of
danger   is   when   you   hear   the  government  start  saying,
"Humanitarian."

"Humanitarianism,"  like  "patriotism,"  may be turning into "the
last refuge of scoundrels."

True humanitarianism, like true patriotism, is a good thing.  But
just like politicians are known to pick up and kiss babies,  they
also are  known  to  wrap  themselves  in  "patriotism"  and now,
"humanitarianism."

In a press release from this news service, dated Dec. 6, 1998, we
reported   on   what  source  "Roland  Rocket"  (pseudonym)  knew
regarding how U.S. prisoners  are  reacting  to the perceived Y2K
threat.  "Rocket",  who  has  worked  in  American  "correctional
facilities"  (prisons)  and has officer-level military sources of
his own, recently contacted us with further info.

Rocket writes, in part, that "it  seems  ironic  that  situations
like  'humanitarian'  actions in Yugoslavia that are initiated to
'save lives'  create  tremendous  paranoia  and  panic  among the
inmate populations because they fear eradication  by  these  same
'humanitarians' under the Hoover amendment."

The Hoover amendment, according to Rocket, was set up by J. Edgar
Hoover,  long-time  FBI  Director,  in  the  1950s.   Hoover  was
concerned  that  the  U.S.  prison  population  would  be  likely
survivors of  nuclear  war,  and  arranged  that  in  such a case
prisoners were to be locked down  then  shotgunned  to  death  in
their prison cells.

Rocket's military sources are skeptical regarding the three  U.S.
soldiers  recently  captured  by  Serb  forces.   The  three U.S.
soldiers are reportedly Rangers, part  of an elite force, yet did
not follow established procedure when they contacted  their  base
by  radio.   Soldiers  in  their situation are supposed to send a
"S.A.L.U.T.E. report" regarding the enemy force encountered (Size
of  force,   Activity,   Location,   Uniform,  Time,  Equipment).
Instead,  says  Rocket,  they  gave  "less  information  than   a
frightened housewife in a 911 call."

"All of the  ex-Nam  boys  here  don't  believe the beating stuff
either," reports our source.  "Look at the uniforms:  no muss, no
mud, no blood.  Most of the marks on their faces are made  up  of
residual cammo face paint."

Sherman  Skolnick  of  the  Citizens'  Committee  to Clean Up the
Courts, in Chicago,  is  also  skeptical.   He has questioned the
authenticity of some  photos  of  the  three  captured  soldiers.
Reportedly,  some  photos  show  patch insignia on their uniforms
while other photos show no such patch insignia.

"Perhaps  the  most  terrible thing is that so many people in and
out of the service are  so  desperate to believe anything but the
fact that WE are the bad guys that they are beginning  to  parrot
the propaganda of the White House.  They really don't believe it,
but  it  has become a mantra oft repeated to ward off the specter
of the awful truth," adds Rocket.

Here at home, Sherman Skolnick has been reporting on intimidation
of Serb Americans and immigrant Serbs by the U.S. Immigration and
Naturalization  Service  (INS).   To  hinder  Serb  protests  and
demonstrations against the un-Constitutional and illegal U.S.-led
aggression against Yugoslavia, Serbs in the U.S.  are  reportedly
being threatened with deportation and detention.  INS spokeswoman
Barbara  Francis denies part of the allegation.  According to Ms.
Francis, under an "informal policy"  no  one is being deported to
Yugoslavia during the current conflict.  ("No Yugoslav  deportees
during  airstrikes,"  UPI,  4/13/99.)   But  no such denials were
issued by Ms.  Francis  regarding  Skolnick's  and others' claims
that some too-vocal Serbs are  targeted  to  be  rounded  up  and
placed  in  detention  camps,  for  example  a  detention camp in
isolated Alaska.

(Ms. Francis also, notably, calls the  erupting  Yugoslav  war  a
"conflict."   The  White  House also sticks to this nomenclature.
The Vietnam War was also  referred  to  as a "conflict" and not a
"war" during its initial first few years.  By  referring  to  the
Yugoslav  bloodbath  as a "conflict," tricky lawyer-minds thereby
hope to bypass Constitutional  restrictions stating that only the
U.S. Congress can declare "war."  So is it a "war"  or  is  it  a
"conflict"?  That depends on what you mean by "is.")

According to the latest report from Mr. Skolnick, the FBI has now
been brought in to help intimidate Serbs here in the U.S. The FBI
is  now  "demonizing  Serbian-Americans  in  general.  The Bureau
planted details making  it  seem  that  certain major Serb church
officials in the U.S., such as in the Chicago area,  urged  their
parishioners  to  murder U.S. soldiers in the U.S., as a reprisal
for the U.S. murder of  Serb  civilians  in Serbia by missile and
bomb  attacks 

[CTRL] Fw: U.S. Journalists to Jail

[Lloyd Miller]

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-Original Message-
From: Ian Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Committee to Protect Journalists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 8:21 PM
Subject: U.S. Journalists to Jail

  Dear Committee to Protect Journalists (www.cpj.org),

  I want to inform you about two American journalists
  and authors that are heading to jail as a result of
  their efforts to make their research findings known.
  Even as the U.S. Government decries the jailing of
  journalists in Serbia, jail cells in the U.S. are
  being readied to silence American journalists.

  DAVID HOFFMAN, editor of the Haight Ashbury Free
  Press (http://webcom.com/haight), is an American
  journalist facing jail time. Hoffman's crime was
  sending a copy of his book to a grand jury that
  was convened to investigate the Oklahoma City
  bombing. Hoffman's book alleges a government
  cover-up of a larger conspiracy in the OKC
  bombing. His book can be read on-line here:
  http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt.htm

  JAMES SANDERS is another American journalist that
  government prosecutors want to put in jail. Sanders
  was convicted for having accepted physical evidence
  from the Flight 800 crash that was given to him by
  a TWA pilot who was a member of the investigation.
  Sanders had that evidence tested and published the
  findings in his book and several newspaper reports,
  which claim that a Navy missile struck Flight 800.

  The effort by the U.S. Justice Department to track
  down Sanders's source by reading his email without
  a warrant was said to be a threat to journalism by
  The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press.

  The law that Sanders was convicted of violating was
  written to stop souvenir hunters from taking debris
  from a crash site. Sanders didn't try to remove the
  evidence from the public, in fact, only he made it
  available to the public, giving us a second opinion
  about the cause of the crash. For that most heinous
  "crime," Sanders now faces up to 10 years in prison.

  The TWA pilot, Terrell Stacey, was the person who
  removed the evidence, yet Sanders, who wrote about
  the evidence, was the primary target of the Federal
  prosecution. Captain Stacey was even given time off
  for testifying against Sanders. The motive of the
  Federal prosecution was therefore to punish the
  person who wrote about the evidence, not the
  person who may have broken the law by taking it.
  Clearly, the goal was to punish the act of speech.

  I hope that all organizations dedicated to freedom
  of speech like the Committee to Protect Journalists
  will speak out against jailing these journalists.
  The ability to investigate one's government free
  from fear of persecution is a defining feature of
  a free society, as it should be for America too.


James Sanders Database ==
http://www.mediainfo.com/ephome/news/newshtm/stories/082198n1.htm
http://members.wbs.net/homepages/r/o/b/robertd202/sanders.PDF
http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/CRASH/TWA/sanderscase.html
http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=1999/4/14/101749
http://www.angelfire.com/hi/TWA800/#sanders
http://members.aol.com/bardonia/sanders.htm
The residue Sanders tested was NOT glue, contrary to
FBI/media claims: http://www.twa800.com/affidavi.htm
http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/CRASH/TWA/BASS/bassett.html
http://www.multipull.com/twacasefile/residues.html
Seat cushions with the residue disappeared from the hanger:
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/2639/no_res.html

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checks payable to "United States Justice Foundation." Mail
to: James Sanders, P.O. Box 336, Charles City, VA, 23030.


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Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

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Of Hitler:

>Wagner was his favorite composer, and he not only attended performance
of
>Wagner, but would listen to him on records when relaxing...


There's also the apocryphal tale of Hitler whistling or humming
some passage from Wagner, and a staff officer remarking that he'd got a
note wrong.  Hitler, apparently, insisted that Wager had *written* the
passage incorrectly.

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Re: [CTRL] Turkey's Kurdish Time Bomb

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> The Kurds in pivotally-important-to-NATO Turkey are standing in
line
>hoping to become the next ethnic minority entitled to NATO firepower --
but
>NATO is foursquare behind the fascist military dictatorship that
presently
>governs Turkey, so the persecution of 12 MILLION people --treated worse
by
>Turks than the Kosovars by the Serbs-- is not so urgent a "holocaust"
as a
>few hundred thousand Albanians across the Straits ...

I'm with you on the main point of your slug for this forwarded article,
but the Turkish government is actually a democratically-elected
centre-right coalition.  Which, I should say, makes it rather worse,
because one expects democracies to know better than to indulge in the
kind of disgusting behaviour we see from the Turks  (not that the PKK
are that much better, but it does take two to tango).

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Re: [CTRL] JABRIWOCKY

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This must be the post of the month, The gran Jabriwocky insists ;-)



 > JABRIWOCKY
 >
 > 'Twas brillig, and the manpanzees
 >   Did flirt according to their kind;
 > While down below their happy trees,
 >   The Serbs on Muslims dined.
 >
 > "Beware the Jabriwock, my son!
 >   The tongue that lies without a clue!
 > Beware the Sinderbot, and shun
 >   The frumious Pseudo-Jew!"
 >
 > He brought his Darwin and his doubt;
 >   Logic and learning were his tools.
 > In uffish thought, he sought throughout
 >   The Godless public schools.
 >
 > And as he sought the monstrous dupes,
 >   The Jabriwock, with posts of flame,
 > Came spamming through the Usenet groups,
 >   And burbled as it came!
 >
 > He fought it with fossils and DNA,
 >   He pelted it with endless facts.
 > And yet the Jabriwock flamed away,
 >   Immune to his attacks!
 >
 > He fought it with logic, he fought it with care;
 >   It laughed off his luckless armory!
 > It dragged his corpse off to its loathesome lair:
 >   Jabriwock was a boojum, you see.
 >
 > "And hast thou slain my beamish youth?
 >   Curse you forever, O Jabriwock!
 > May someone, someday pierce you with truth
 >   And leave you as dead as a rock!"
 >
 > 'Twas brillig, and the manpanzees
 >   Did flirt according to their kind;
 > While down below their happy trees,
 >   The Serbs on Muslims dined.
 >
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[CTRL] NATO is hiding it's losses!

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Athens magazine Athinaiki, no. 599, page 9, 7th april 1999

"At the moment NATO is refusing Yugoslav ceasefire proposal , Athinaiki
discovers 100% correct information from the NATO HQ resources that current
Alliance loses are 88 death and missing soldiers and 32 airplanes and
hellicopters. In order to punish Yugoslavia, small town of Aleksinac was
heavily bombed resulting 7 dead and 30 wounded.

Informations obtained from highest level in Brussel are exposing Alliance`s
anger and fear because of current losses without eaven starting any ground
operation. Number of "missing " (most likely dead) collected by NATO
officers in Kosovo reached the number of 88. Meanwhile, the number of lost
airplanes and helicopters reached 32 so far. NATO hope that not all of 88
missing are dead and claim that Serbs don`t want to go with real number!
According to NATO sources, 44 are Americans, 11 are Germans, 7 are Brittish
18 are of miscellaneous nationalities. Those facts, still unpublished in
those countries, combined with reported aircraft losses, caused anger to
NATO generals who actually vote for different solution of crisis, There is
also an oppinion that action was headed wrong from the beginning. Due to all
the mentioned facts here, NATO is claiming political deal under the current
law in Yugoslavia without any changes of borders."

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Re: [CTRL] Info on 'Spear of Destiny'

[YnrChyldzWyld]

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On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Colleen Jones wrote:
>Now is has been a long time since I read the above book (1980 about) and
>hear Wagner's ring.

I still have my copy, I believe, if you want me to look anything up...
I know my local library still has it, since I noticed it on the shelf a
few weeks ago...

An even more interesting book (which I haven't been able to finish) goes
by the title of Fire and Ice, I believegoes into the history of the
occult movements which were going strong in Germany in general, and
Vienna in particular, in the 19th and early 20th century, and how such
societies had an influence on Hitler, and eventually the whole Nazi
party.


>People have been waiting for the Messiah's return now for nearly 2,000
>years;

Ignoring the fact that:

a) 2000 years ago, they were on a totally different calendar
   than we are now, and

b) the Bible states that no one knows the time that Jesus will
   return, that it does NOT go by any one date; it only states
   that the discerning will recognize certain signs, which it
   describes in Daniel and Revelations, amongst other books...


>some believe he will be reincarnated,

Which is not scripturally supported...


>So, I think we have another thousand years to gotwo thousand years
>is a long time to wait on anyone, but when he descends, allegedly his
>heel will hit the top of a mountainbook called Footsteps of Orpheus
>stated there are people drilling at the foot of this mountain now

Perhaps you can point out the actual passages of SCRIPTURE which purport
to make these claims?


>Such is lifeHitler thrived on Nazi Marching bands, not Wagner.

Wagner was his favorite composer, and he not only attended performance of
Wagner, but would listen to him on records when relaxing...

I had a friend of Germanic extraction who I knew from highschool, who
wrote a book (unpublished) about WWII from the German perspective, and
who would listen to Wagner at a drop of the hathence, I ended up with
a fair amount of interest in Nazi Germany myself, esp. the parts NOT
presented to the public, either by the Nazis themselves, or from the
mainstream history mavens...

But I could never get into Wagner...he's okay, I don't absolutely HATE
his music, The Ride of the Valkyries IS stirringbut give me Mozart,
Handel, Vivaldi, Tellemann, and Bach any day...

Or George Gershwin...


>Must get this stuff out again; but I had my favorite parts.   Always
>liked Midsummers Night Dream...which I nearly wore out on my "record
>player""I am sent with broom before to sweep the dust behind the
>door"Shakespeare held a lot of masonic stuff too.

The Freemasons didn't exist during Shakespeare's time (altho THEY
might like to claim otherwise, there are no FACTS to support their
existance before the 18th century)...


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Re: [CTRL] American UN Official Gang-Raped in S. Africa

[Taylor, John (JH)]

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Rape in the black community is at least 10x on a per capita basis(rape is so
high in the black community that many women dont go to the police) that in
the white and indian community. In the old SA rape was confined within each
of the race groups and the interacial rape was miniscule.

In the new SA that barrier has fallen away as has interacial violence(ie
black on white)
Political violence, although well publicised, was only 1-2% of the total
violence in the country.

What is not mentioned in the article was that she was 67 and raped by
mozambiquans  ..in one of the most exclusive suburbs in the country..you
are not safe anywhere.
Also in the news today was the story of another 70+ year old who was raped.
(my wifes aunt(72) was raped by a black teenager a few years back)

A Black school principle(56) gwendoline Jele was murdered for her car in the
school grounds.
A soccer official shot dead and referee wounded-
 which leads to the joke below.(A hooker by the way is a rugby
positionnot a sex position)


Rugby Coach Andre Markgraaf had put together the perfect Cats team.  The
only thing he was missing was a good hooker. He had scouted all
the varsities, and even the high schools, but he couldn't find a
really good hooker who could ensure a Super 12 win.

Then one night, while watching CNN, he saw a war-zone scene in
Kosovo. In one corner of the background, he spotted a young
soldier with a truly incredible arm.  He threw a hand grenade
straight into a 15th-story window 200 yards away -- ka-boom!  He
threw another hand grenade into a group of 10 soldiers 100 yards
away -- ka-blooey!  Then a car passed, going 150 kph--bulls-eye!

"I've got to get this guy!"  Markgraaf said to himself.  "He has
the perfect arm!"

So, he brings him to South Africa and teaches him the great game
of rugby, and the Cats go on to win the Super 12 for the first
time in history.

The young Kosovan is ionized as the Great Hero of Rugby, and when
Markgraaf asks him what he wants, all the young man wants to do is
to call his mother.


"Mom," he says into the phone, "I just won the Super 12."

"I don't want to talk to you," the old woman says.  "You deserted
us. You are not my son."

"I don't think you understand, Mother!" the young man pleads.  "I
just won the greatest sporting event in the world.  I'm here among
thousands of my adoring fans."

"No, let me tell you," the mother retorts. "At this very moment,
there are gunshots all around us and your father lies dying.
 The neighborhood is a pile of rubble.
 Your two brothers were beaten within an inch of their
lives last week, and this week your sister was raped in broad
daylight at the school."

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The old lady pauses, and then tearfully says "...I'll never
forgive you for making us move to Johannesburg."






U.S. Official Raped in S. Africa

By PAT REBER
.c The Associated Press

JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (AP) -- An American U.N. official on a visit to
South Africa was gang-raped Thursday during a robbery of the home she was
staying at, police said.

The woman, who was visiting from Washington, was first raped in the bedroom
of the Pretoria residence owned by the United Nations, then forced to help
carry stolen goods outside to a field where she was raped again.

``The men then pushed her down a steep slope, went after her, and she was
raped for a third time,'' police Inspector Gideon Thessner said.

Thessner said the woman -- a senior representative of UNICEF -- was
traumatized by the attack and could not say how many men had raped her.
Police have arrested nine men suspected of entering the home.

The woman didn't fight back in order to protect four other people sleeping
in
the house, authorities said.

``She was very brave. She actually wanted to save them,'' Thessner said.

The U.N. official is the most recent high-profile victim of crime in South
Africa.

Crime has become a major campaign issue ahead of South Africa's second
all-race elections on June 2. Mainly white opposition parties have been
pressing the governing African National Congress on the issue.

More than 60,000 women and girls are raped every year in South Africa.

Earlier this year, a South Korean businessman was killed in an apparent
carjacking attempt and the Canadian ambassador was beaten and robbed in his
Cape Town hotel room.

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[CTRL] House Examines Big-Bank Money-Laundering

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House Studies Money Laundering

WASHINGTON (AP) -- House members on Thursday discussed ways to attack money
laundering, examining the roles played by larger financial institutions and
small check-cashing businesses.

``Money laundering is the Achilles' heel of organized crime,'' said Rep.
Marge Roukema, chairwoman of the House Banking and Financial subcommittee on
financial institutions. ``Fighting money laundering is about fighting
drugs.''

The Treasury Department estimates that some $48 billion in drug-linked money
alone is laundered overseas.

One growing trend, involving ``money services business,'' has attracted
congressional scrutiny, but no consensus on how to crack down. In this
scheme, money is laundered in relatively small amounts through check-cashing
companies and sellers of traveler's checks.

Roukema, R-N.J., said 160,000 such companies do about $200 million in
business every year.

Critics of tighter reporting requirements on transactions said the changes
would represent an invasion of privacy, needless regulation and an impediment
to immigrants aiding families overseas.

``I'm more interested in the big boys'' of the money-handling world, said
Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif.

Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga., also said he opposes regulating the smaller businesses.

``There are legitimate tools already available to law enforcement to handle
money laundering,'' said Barr, a former U.S. attorney.

One case mentioned involved Citibank and Raul Salinas, the brother of Carlos
salinas de Gortari, Mexico's president from 1988 to 1994.

A report for Congress in December said Citibank officials violated their own
money laundering controls in helping Raul Salinas move as much as $100
million in alleged drug money out of the country.

But the report by the General Accounting Office, the investigative arm of
Congress, said it remained unclear whether the nation's second largest bank
broke any laws in moving the funds.

A Citibank spokesman said at the time that the report contained ``errors of
fact and interpretation'' but said the bank would cooperate fully with law
enforcement authorities.

The GAO said neither it nor the Federal Reserve could determine whether
Citibank broke any laws, and the Comptroller of the Currency found the bank's
actions ``did not result in civil violation of the Bank Secrecy Act.''

Raul Salinas has denied wrongdoing and said most of the money he moved came
from sale of a construction company.

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[CTRL] Turkey's Kurdish Time Bomb

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 The Kurds in pivotally-important-to-NATO Turkey are standing in line
hoping to become the next ethnic minority entitled to NATO firepower -- but
NATO is foursquare behind the fascist military dictatorship that presently
governs Turkey, so the persecution of 12 MILLION people --treated worse by
Turks than the Kosovars by the Serbs-- is not so urgent a "holocaust" as a
few hundred thousand Albanians across the Straits ...


Pro-Kurdish Pols Winning in Turkey

By SELCAN HACAOGLU
.c The Associated Press

KIZILTEPE, Turkey (AP) -- Cihan Sincar, running for mayor in Turkish
elections, pledges to struggle as long as she lives for the rights of
minority Kurds. But she knows that politics can turn deadly.

Her husband, Mehmet, a pro-Kurdish legislator, was killed in 1993, shot in
the back of the head.

Now Sincar and a half dozen other members of a pro-Kurdish party are expected
to win local elections Sunday in key towns in Turkey's predominantly Kurdish
southeast.

Their successful campaigns have created tensions with the government, which
is engaged in a bloody war with Kurdish rebels and is extremely wary of any
expression of Kurdish identity.

The vote is the first time that the People's Democracy Party, or HADEP,
Turkey's only legal pro-Kurdish opposition party, has contested the local
posts.

The party calls for greater cultural freedoms for Kurds. Prosecutors have
accused it of taking orders from Kurdish rebels fighting for autonomy in the
region since 1984.

Club-wielding police broke up a HADEP rally in the region's main city of
Diyarbakir on Tuesday, beating party supporters even as they fled the rally.

Dozens of police backed by an armored personnel carrier raided Sincar's
campaign office in the town of Kiziltepe a day later, recording the names of
party workers and frisking them.

Tensions are also higher in the region following a number of bombings thought
conducted by Kurds angered by the February arrest of rebel leader Abdullah
Ocalan, who now faces treason charges.

Sincar, 44, who faces trial on charges of aiding Ocalan's Kurdistan Workers
Party and was detained for nine days in November, vowed to continue her
fight.

``I will struggle for my people as long as I live,'' she said.

``There is an obstinate denial of a Kurdish entity,'' she said, sitting in
her apartment surrounded by scores of supporters. ``We are citizens of
Turkey, but we are Kurds.''

Sincar is widely expected to win the race for mayor of Kiziltepe, a town of
113,000 just north of the Syrian border. The town has often been the scene of
gunfights between Kurdish guerrillas and Turkish soldiers.

Two of Sincar's brothers-in-law were guerrillas killed in shootouts with
soldiers. She named her youngest son after one of them -- Kamuran.

Among the freedoms HADEP seeks is the right to use the Kurdish language --
which was only allowed to be used at all in 1991 -- in schools and
broadcasting.

But the issue is sensitive in Turkey, where the government is quick to see
any expression of Kurdish identity as a veiled attempt to break up the state.

The government denies discrimination against its 12 million Kurds and points
to Kurdish success stories, such as late President Turgut Ozal.

HADEP ran in 1995 national elections but did not get enough votes for a
parliament seat.

Pro-Kurdish candidates also demand more funding for the poor, largely rural
southeast, where many villages still lack running water and electricity.

The area is under a visible military presence. Four army checkpoints dot the
75-mile road between Diyarbakir and Kiziltepe. Nearby shantytowns are
populated by Kurdish villagers forced from their homes by government troops
during a scorched earth campaign to deny the rebels local support.

Sincar refused to speak about the upcoming trial for Ocalan or about the
rebels. But she said some of her supporters have sons fighting as guerrillas
and hiding in the nearby mountains. The fight has left 37,000 dead since
1984.

``I don't want Turkish or Kurdish mothers to suffer,'' said Sincar. ``I
pledge to my supporters to try to bring their sons from the mountains. We
need peace.''

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Re: [CTRL] Drug-Dealing Gun Runners with Badges

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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
>The accused officer, gang-crimes investigator Joseph Miedzianowski, has
>been
>indicted on charges of conspiracy to possess and distribute cocaine. He
>has
>not been charged with weapons violations.


was that specifically cocaine?; because the distribution of crack cocaine
carries a much heavier sentence. one of the racist laws that target the
poor and blacks. crack has less actual cocaine than regular coke; the law
distinguishes how it is ingested and increases the penalty for less of the
actual drug itself. it must be interesting what how they justify this.
anyone?

chris

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[CTRL] World Bank to Bribe Russia

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 Gee, only weeks ago --before Russia's outrage at Kosovo-- the IMF was
balking at offering Russia even HALF that amount ...


Russia Promised $2.3B in Loans

By ANNA DOLGOV
.c The Associated Press

MOSCOW (AP) -- Russian officials will fly to Washington next week to start
drafting an agreement with the World Bank on a $2.3 billion loan that it
promised Thursday.

World Bank President James Wolfensohn said in Moscow that Russia would
receive the money over two years once the government reaches agreement with
the International Monetary Fund.

``I'm very happy to reconfirm the confidence we have in Prime Minister
(Yevgeny) Primakov and the steps taken by his government,'' Wolfensohn said
after he met with government officials.

Wolfensohn said the loans, if finalized, will be used to restructure Russia's
industrial sector and finance social reforms.

Russia is trying to arrange new loans to meet at least some of its huge
foreign debt payments that fall due this year. It hopes that the resumption
of IMF loans will help attract money from other lenders and possibly persuade
them to write off some old debts.

The IMF and the World Bank orchestrated a $22.6 billion bailout package to
Russia last year, but disbursements were frozen in August when the government
defaulted on some debts and devalued the ruble under the impact of the global
financial crisis in developing countries.

A Russian delegation will fly to Washington on April 25 to begin drafting the
new loan agreement, which they hope to prepare by the end of the month, First
Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Maslyukov said after a meeting with Wolfensohn.

The Russian delegation will also meet IMF officials in Washington, Maslyukov
said. An IMF delegation was also in Moscow on Thursday.

The government has floated the idea of writing off up to $75 billion of
Russia's $103 billion Soviet-era debt, but western creditors have shown
little enthusiasm for the proposal so far.

``Creditors don't seem to be very happy with the idea of a massive reduction
of the (Russian) debt burden or a partial write-off,'' Deputy Finance
Minister Mikhail Kasyanov said during a meeting with the Paris Club of
creditor nations in France on Thursday.

Maslyukov insisted that creditors will back down and accept Russia's
proposals. ``We will definitely reach an agreement. The question of how much
(will be written off) depends on Kasyanov,'' he was quoted as saying by the
Interfax news agency.

Meanwhile, Russian tax chief Georgy Boos said Thursday that up to $14 billion
is taken out of Russia illegally each year, the ITAR-Tass news agency
reported. That's more than the Russian Central Bank's gold and currency
reserves, which stand at $10.8 billion, according to an Interfax report
Thursday.

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[CTRL] American UN Official Gang-Raped in S. Africa

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U.S. Official Raped in S. Africa

By PAT REBER
.c The Associated Press

JOHANNESBURG, South Africa (AP) -- An American U.N. official on a visit to
South Africa was gang-raped Thursday during a robbery of the home she was
staying at, police said.

The woman, who was visiting from Washington, was first raped in the bedroom
of the Pretoria residence owned by the United Nations, then forced to help
carry stolen goods outside to a field where she was raped again.

``The men then pushed her down a steep slope, went after her, and she was
raped for a third time,'' police Inspector Gideon Thessner said.

Thessner said the woman -- a senior representative of UNICEF -- was
traumatized by the attack and could not say how many men had raped her.
Police have arrested nine men suspected of entering the home.

The woman didn't fight back in order to protect four other people sleeping in
the house, authorities said.

``She was very brave. She actually wanted to save them,'' Thessner said.

The U.N. official is the most recent high-profile victim of crime in South
Africa.

Crime has become a major campaign issue ahead of South Africa's second
all-race elections on June 2. Mainly white opposition parties have been
pressing the governing African National Congress on the issue.

More than 60,000 women and girls are raped every year in South Africa.

Earlier this year, a South Korean businessman was killed in an apparent
carjacking attempt and the Canadian ambassador was beaten and robbed in his
Cape Town hotel room.

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[CTRL] Israel Seizes Lebanese Village

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 "A 20-man Israeli infantry unit moved into Arnoun, a village in Lebanon
near where one Israeli soldier was killed in a roadside bombing earlier, and
seized it, effectively annexing it to the 425-square-mile Israeli-occupied
zone"


Israel Seizes Village in Lebanon

NABATIYEH, Lebanon (AP) -- Israeli troops seized a village in southern
Lebanon on Thursday night, hours after their planes blasted suspected
guerrilla hideouts, Lebanese security officials said.

They said the jets fired at least four missiles near the Shiite Muslim
villages of Zibqine, Jebal al-Boutom and Sheyabieh. There was no immediate
word on casualties from the airstrikes and a ground clash that preceded it.

The Israeli army confirmed the airstrikes.

The security officials said a 20-man Israeli infantry unit, accompanied by
two Merkava tanks and a bulldozer, moved Thursday night toward Arnoun, an
inland village near the area where an Israeli soldier was killed in a
roadside bombing on Monday.

They met no resistance. They were apparently planning to seal off Arnoun and
effectively annex it to the rest of the 425-square-mile Israeli-occupied
zone, said the officials, speaking on customary condition of anonymity.

There was no confirmation from Israel that its troops had taken Arnoun, which
is about 4 miles southeast of the market town of Nabatiyeh and about the same
distance from the Israeli border to the south.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had said in Jersualem on Monday
that Israel would not accept ``as inevitable attacks on our soldiers.''

He said Lebanon had violated an unwritten agreement that no guerrilla attacks
would be launched from Arnoun.

``We are doing what we need to do to handle these threats,'' he said.

Arnoun has been a frequent target of Israeli retaliation for attacks by
guerrillas seeking to drive some 1,500 Israeli soldiers and 2,500 allied
militiamen from the occupied zone.

On Feb. 17, Israeli troops fenced off Arnoun in what they said was a bid to
reduce guerrilla infiltration. Lebanese university students marched and cut
down the barbed wire a week later.

Thursday night's Israeli incursion came a day after the Lebanese government
refused to heed a U.S. request to send its army to the village, a move that
could have forestalled the push.

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[CTRL] Drug-Dealing Gun Runners with Badges

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Chicago Cop Accused of Running Guns

By MIKE ROBINSON
.c The Associated Press

CHICAGO (AP) -- A police officer charged with running a drug ring has been
accused by a drug dealer of giving guns and bags of ammunition to one gang so
it could wage war on another.

The accusation was in a plea agreement between federal prosecutors and Joseph
DeLeon, 32, one of three men who pleaded guilty Thursday to being part of a
ring that put more than 220 pounds of crack cocaine on the streets of
Chicago.

The accused officer, gang-crimes investigator Joseph Miedzianowski, has been
indicted on charges of conspiracy to possess and distribute cocaine. He has
not been charged with weapons violations.

His attorney denied the charges.

``These are people who are narcotics peddlers, dope dealers, and they know
that their only way out so they can see the light of day again is to make up
stories about Joe Miedzianowski,'' Phillip Turner said.

Federal prosecutors have charged that Miedzianowski, 46, took part in the
drug trade he was hired to fight, distributing cocaine, supplying guns,
taking protection money and identifying undercover officers to gang members.

They also claim he supplied guns for DeLeon's Imperial Gangsters, who were
engaged in gang warfare with their rivals the Spanish Cobras.

The guns allegedly were stolen from the Cook County sheriff's shooting range.

DeLeon and the three others who pleaded guilty -- Francisco Figueroa, 29, and
David Ruiz, 28, and Yolanda Navarro, 26 -- are expected to be government
witnesses.

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[CTRL] Billions for the War Machine, "Good for Business"

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 NATO says to expect "months."  4-6 billion bucks?  Oh, just take it out
of "petty cash," i.e., the feds' Social Security surplus slush fund.  Or push
for more cutbacks in education, health, and welfare for our own "underclass,"
virtually refugees already ...


Conflict May Cost Over $1 Billion Monthly

By TOM RAUM
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Congress and the White House are sparring over the scope
of a still-evolving emergency spending bill to pay for the conflict in the
Balkans, with Republicans pressing for more money to meet some of the
Pentagon's long-term needs.

The air campaign alone, which began on March 24, cost the United States $600
million in the first three weeks and will cost an additional $1 billion a
month if sustained, congressional budget analysts said.

White House budget director Jack Lew said the Clinton administration was
``very close'' to putting the finishing touches on its measure after he met
late Thursday with leaders from House and Senate appropriations committees.

Administration officials had suggested the bill would be in the vicinity of
$4 billion, but congressional aides close to the process are now suggesting
it will probably be higher -- at least $5 billion. That figure will also
include direct humanitarian aid to refugees and assistance to countries in
the Balkans that are taking them in.

It may also include more money for the ongoing peacekeeping operation in
Bosnia and to help pay for last winter's airstrikes against Iraq.

Republicans, in general, were pressing for a more generous package than the
one the administration is considering.

``There is a stretching thin of our overall capacity,'' House Appropriations
Committee Chairman C.W. Bill Young, R-Fla., told Secretary of State Madeleine
Albright at a hearing. ``We have to do more than just replace the bullets and
the missiles,'' he said.

Some Republicans have suggested that the spending bill should also contain
money to shore up what they see as declining military readiness around the
world. Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., has even suggested it
could become a vehicle for paying for an across-the-board 4.8 percent
military pay raise approved earlier this year by the Senate, but for which
funds have yet to be provided.

Whatever the final cost, it appears likely that Congress will agree to take
it out of the newly found budget surplus, rather than from tapping into other
accounts. The surplus in the current fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30, is
projected at about $110 billion.

Democrats and Republicans have both pledged to save the surplus to help ease
future financial problems of the Social Security system. Republicans also
want to use some of it for a tax cut.

Asked if Congress could finance the operation through the usual spending
process, and within existing budget guidelines, Senate Budget Committee
Chairman Pete Domenici, R-N.M., said: ``No, we can't. What we need for Kosovo
has got to be an emergency declaration.''

When a spending bill is designated as ``emergency,'' it means that the money
for it comes out of the surplus, as in the current financial situation, or
adds to the deficit in the years when the government operates in the red.

The Congressional Budget Office said its estimates of the cost of the air war
did not include humanitarian aid, or certain procurement costs, such as
replacing the F-117 stealth fighter that was lost. That aircraft is no longer
being manufactured.

CBO Director Dan Crippen said that sending on ground troops -- an option the
administration says it is not currently considering -- could cost an
additional $200 million a month, assuming a force of one heavy division plus
support, or about 27,000 troops.

Meanwhile, the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, an independent
research organization, issued a report that was generally in line with the
CBO report. It put the price tag for U.S. participation for the first three
weeks of the air campaign at $400 million to $600 million.

It said that, with 300 more warplanes and 24 Apache attack helicopters on the
way, the campaign will soon be costing $25 million to $65 million a day.

The administration had hoped to get the spending bill to Congress by week's
end. But the timetable appeared to be slipping into early next week.

For one thing, both Young, the House Appropriations chairman, and Senate
Appropriations Committee Chairman Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, are part of a
congressional delegation leaving today for a weekend tour of military and
refugee sites in the Balkans.

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[CTRL] "Never-Told-A-Lie" Bill Warns of Serbian CBW

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US: Yugoslavia Has Chemical Agents

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Yugoslavia has reportedly stockpiled chemicals that could
be used as weapons and President Clinton promised a swift response to any
chemical attack.

Yugoslavia has made no threats to use deadly chemical weapons and Pentagon
officials said they have no intelligence indicating that Belgrade has any
such plans.

Speaking in San Francisco to the American Society of Newspaper Editors,
Clinton said U.S. intelligence has been closely watching Belgrade's chemical
agent supply.

``My response would be swift and overwhelming,'' Clinton said Thursday. ``And
we have, obviously, intelligence about the capabilities about the Serbs in a
number of areas militarily, just as we do with other countries. But I think
they are quite well aware of the dangers of overly escalating this.''

A Washington think tank reported that Kosovo rebel forces this week claimed
that Serb soldiers had attacked them using stun grenades with a
hallucinogenic gas. Kosovo rebels contacted by The Associated Press in
neighboring Albania could not affirm that report.

The most recent independent reports considered highly reliable by U.S.
intelligence indicate that the Belgrade government of Slobodan Milosevic
inherited most of the chemical weapons program from the communist era prior
to the breakup of Yugoslavia.

A 1997 report by Human Rights Watch, a group that watches for human rights
violations across the world, said there was evidence that Yugoslavia
continues to maintain an offensive chemical weapons capability. The group
cited research in the United States and Yugoslavia and interviews with people
in the Yugoslav chemical weapons program.

The stock of agents includes sarin, the blister agent sulfur mustard and the
incapacitating agent BZ, the Human Rights Watch report said. It said the
stockpile of both agents and weapons ``appears to remain active today.''

Kevin Kavanaugh of the Federation of American Scientists, a Washington-based
think tank that follows defense and intelligence matters, said Kosovo
Liberation Army rebels battling Serb regulars in southwestern Kosovo reported
they were attacked with grenades containing BZ.

The gas is intended to create debilitating hallucinogenic effects on
soldiers, rendering them helpless. U.S. defense and intelligence officials
consider BZ to be a riot control agent, not a chemical weapon. Kosovo rebels
were distributing gas masks among their ranks, Kavanaugh said.

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[CTRL] Cover-Up "By Order of Clinton's Deputy Energy Secretary"

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Energy Officials Avoided Spy Case

By JIM ABRAMS
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Energy Department officials say they kept a House Armed
Services subcommittee in the dark last year about alleged Chinese espionage
at a national weapons lab as part of a policy of limiting those being told of
the case.

Notra Trulock, the agency's special adviser for intelligence, told the
military procurement subcommittee Thursday that he was under specific orders
from Elizabeth Moler, then deputy energy secretary, not to talk about the
alleged Chinese theft of nuclear warhead secrets from the Los Alamos National
Laboratory in the 1980s.

``I did not make full disclosure'' at a closed hearing of the subcommittee
last October, Trulock said. ``I apologize.''

The panel's chairman, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., said the lawmakers were
``very upset'' by the failure of Trulock and Moler, who were under oath at
the time, to reply to questions about espionage at the national labs and
asked, ``Why weren't we told the whole truth?''

Since the alleged spy case was revealed earlier this year, congressional
Republicans have been strongly critical of what they say was the
administration's slow response to the case and its failure to keep Congress
adequately informed.

Trulock on Monday backed up their contentions, telling the Senate Armed
Services Committee that Moler last July prevented him from talking to the
House intelligence panel about the case.

On Thursday he said Moler edited the testimony he had prepared for the
October Armed Services Committee hearing to take out references to espionage
at the national labs.

Moler, who also appeared at both the Monday and Thursday hearings, took
strong issue with Trulock's version of events, saying she never tried to stop
him from testifying and did not edit his testimony.

But she acknowledged that Federico Pena, then energy secretary, had decided
the agency, because of the sensitive nature of the case, should limit its
Capitol Hill briefings to the House and Senate intelligence committees. She
said this was ``common practice.''

She said she told Trulock to limit his testimony to the subject of security
issues involved in visits to the labs by foreign nationals.

Hunter reminded her that his subcommittee oversees two-thirds of the Energy
Department's budget and said, ``We need candor from the department on
(security) losses this country has suffered.''

``With the benefit of hindsight,'' Moler said, ``we should have been more
responsive in this area.''

The Energy Department and the FBI in 1996 began an investigation into
suspicions that Taiwan-born American Wen Ho Lee, a scientist at Los Alamos,
transferred intelligence on the W-88 nuclear warhead during the Reagan
administration.

Lee was fired from his job at the New Mexico facility last month, but has not
been charged with any wrongdoing and the FBI has cautioned it may not have
the evidence for a criminal case.

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Re: [CTRL] Aw Shucks, Merely a Bit of Collateral Damage

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In a message dated 99-04-15 16:50:20 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>"Sometimes one has to risk the lives of the few to save the lives of the
many,"

In practice, it's actually the other way around.

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[CTRL] Limitations on E.O.'s?

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Fellow Lollards:

In a message dated 99-04-15 22:43:23 EDT, you write:
<< But, basically, I was wanting to know if EOs where designed to
specially and ONLY address land issues and if there is no amend-
ment in the Constitution to create them. >>

Executive Orders are of course UNconstitutional; and as they
circumvent the Constitution itself, it would be irrelevant whether
or not the Constitution attempted to regulate them.

Executive Orders are NOT limited to only addressing "land issues".

As example:

Executive Order 9066 signed by insider Franklin Delano Roosevelt
on February 19, 1942, gave the U.S. Army unprecedented powers
over civilians and allowed the removal of all persons of Japanese
ancestry--who lived on the west coast of the U.S.--to internment
camps during World War II.  We are not talking about simply
moving these people a few blocks down the street.

Japanese Californians were relocated as far as
any of the following locations might take them:

  1) Tule Lake, California
  2) Manzanar, California
  3) Poston, Arizona
  4) Gila, Arizona
  5) Topaz, Utah
  6) Minidoka, Idaho
  7) Heart Mountain, Wyoming
  8) Granada, Colorado
  9) Rohwer, Arkansas
10) Jerome, Arkansas

The majority of the approximately 120,000 Japanese who were detained,
were BORN in the United States of America.  They were not immigrants.

When talk surfaces of the "secret" prison camps being erected TODAY,
many people say, "That would NEVER happen in America"...

Our laughter only escapes in a sigh as
we realize their lack of knowledge...

 ...of their own American history.


BTW, this E.O. 9066 was not rescinded until Feb 19, 1976; and
this, only after the scuttle that came about when some people
realized it was still on the books and made a stink about it.

Another interesting point:

When the moment in time arrived, for those of Japanese ancestry
to "report in" for their relocationyou would never guess WHERE
they were supposed to report in to

All people of Japanese ancestry were ordered to report
to their local MASONIC HALL for further instructions.

Now *thats* brotherly love for ya.

Still muttering,
Tsadowq

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