[CTRL] The coming end-2- the reversion to group identity

1999-12-22 Thread Taylor, John (JH)

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> The chapters below are on the formation of the Jewish group identity.
> however the point is that the creation of group identities is a universal
> phenomenon between humans. In times of trouble in particular people will
> revert to the group that they trust.
>
> To say that there is no such thing and that we are all world citizens is
> an illusion only prevalent in the west. Say that to the chinese they will
> either laugh or set of to live in your country.
>
> what defines the group identity
> Your :-
> Race(appearance)
> Religion
> Language
> Land
> Culture
> Customs and symbols(inc Sporting)
>
> In the modern western world the major media is the TV and the people who
> control the TV attempt to define your your identity for you, for your own
> good.
>
> Politics is essentially the ability to define and manipulate group
> interests and trying to incorporate as many people/ resources whithin
> your group interest to carry through your main agenda.
>
>
> In times of  deep trouble group interests will often become violent. Again
> politicians step in to manipulate and control these primeval emotions.
>
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> From separation and its discontents-Mr K Mac Donald
> http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/
>
> 1
> A Social Identity Theory of Anti-Semitism
>
>
> The theory of group evolutionary strategies described in A People That
> Shall Dwell Alone: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy (MacDonald
> 1994; hereafter PTSDA) argued that Judaism may be understood mainly as a
> cultural invention, maintained by social controls that act to structure
> the behavior of group members and characterized by a religious ideology
> that rationalizes ingroup behavior both to ingroup members and to
> outsiders. Although evolved mechanisms of group cohesion are also
> important, it was shown that social controls acting within the group were
> able to structure the group to facilitate ingroup economic and political
> cooperation and resource competition with outgroups, erect barriers to
> genetic penetration from outside the group, and facilitate eugenic
> practices aimed at producing high intelligence and high-investment
> parenting ideally suited to developing a specialized ecological role
> within human societies. Because of these traits, and particularly an IQ
> that is at least one standard deviation above the Caucasian mean, Judaism
> has been a powerful force in several historical eras.
> The proposal that Judaism may be usefully conceptualized as a group
> evolutionary strategy suggests that anti-Semitism be defined as negative
> attitudes or behavior directed at Jews because of their group membership.
> This is a very broad definition-one that is equally applicable to
> anti-Jewish attitudes in any historical era. It is also consistent with a
> very wide range of external processes contributing to anti-Semitism in a
> particular historical era, and also with qualitative changes in the nature
> of anti-Jewish attitudes or the institutional structure of anti-Semitism
> at different times and places.
> One type of evolutionary approach to anti-Semitism considers the
> possibility that humans have mechanisms that cause them to favor relatives
> or others who share genes. There is little doubt that kin recognition
> mechanisms exist among animals (see Rushton 1989), and some evolutionists
> (e.g., Dunbar 1987; Shaw & Wong 1989; van der Dennen 1987; Vine 1987) have
> proposed genetic mechanisms based on kin recognition as an explanation for
> xenophobia, although others have proposed that the genetic mechanism may
> well depend on learning during development (e.g., Alexander 1979,
> 126-128). Genetic Similarity Theory (GST) (Rushton 1989) extends beyond
> kin recognition by proposing mechanisms (possibly based on kin recognition
> mechanisms) that assess phenotypic similarity as a marker for genetic
> similarity. These proposed mechanisms would then promote positive
> attitudes and a lower threshold for altruism for similar others. There is
> indeed considerable evidence, summarized in Rushton (1989) and Segal
> (1993), that phenotypic similarity is an important factor in human
> assortment, helping behavior, and liking others, although whether GST can
> account for these phenomena remains controversial (see commentary in
> Rushton 1989).
> Mechanisms based on kin recognition and phenotypic similarity may have
> some role in traditional anti-Semitism, since in traditional societies
> there would be much more phenotypic similarity among gentiles than between
> Jews and gentiles, due to differences in clothing, language, appearance
> (e.g., hair style), and quite often their physical features. Moreover,
> among Jews, there are anecdotal reports of very high levels of rapport and
> ability to recognize other Jews which are consistent with the existence of
> some sort of kin recognition system among Jews.  As Harvard sociologist
> Daniel Bell notes, "I was born in galut and I accept-now gladly, though
> once

Re: [CTRL] Fondly remembering Isvestia and Pravda News Services.

1999-12-22 Thread Das GOAT

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Well, isn't that what the revered Capitalist idea of "competition" is all
about -- a brief interim stage, usually in a new market, ultimately resulting
in cartels or a monopoly?

And isn't that what the sacred Capitalist concept of the "free market" is --
an economy in which the bigger fishes are FREE to eat all the littler ones,
until the market winds up CONTROLLED by the biggest fish of all, who can then
ELIMINATE any challengers?

Capitalist "economics" evolved as an economic expression of "Social
Darwinism" --a modernized version of the philosophy behind FEUDALISM-- and it
must follow its basic tenet: "Survival of the 'fittest' -- by any means
necessary."  All power comes from the capital of the most exploitative, most
usurious bankers -- until the GUNS come out ...

"Work makes free," "slavery is freedom," "supply and demand" ...  Barnum was
right!

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Re: [CTRL] Phoenicians in ancient New Zealand ? (fwd)

1999-12-22 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-12-21 17:48:50 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>This is probably true also. But only because the Phoenicians traded along
>the coasts. Many nations, including Egypt, sailed along the coasts.

Egypt had an AVERSION to the sea.  So, when it came to seafaring, the
Egyptians "contracted out" to the Phoenicians, Mycenaeans, and perhaps
earlier the Minoans.
The Phoenicians were tolerated as "colonial governors" for absentee-landlord
Egypt, particularly around the time of the early Israelite "Kingdom."  The
Mycenaeans were virtually nobodies until they settled in the Delta and signed
on as Egypt's mercenaries, to fill the vacuum left by the deterioration of
Phoenician control of its "colony" Canaan.
After the civil war under King Solomon (who married an Egyptian princess as a
token of his "fealty" to the Pharaoh) which split Israel into Judah, isolated
inland in the far south, and  Israel (the Ten Tribes) in the north, nextdoor
to Tyre and Sidon, Judah declined in all aspects of culture while the
Northern Kingdom, "Phoenicia's" partner, prospered and
excelled in its culture -- reflecting its mercantile relations with both
Egypt and Greece.
Only the Assyrians, elbowing into the area from Mesopotamia, hoping to gain
control of Mediterranean trade by conquering "Phoenicia" plus "Israel,"
changed that equation.
The Canaanite-Phoenicians were THEN driven more westward into the
Mediterranean and became primarily "Phoenicians," i.e., COLONIAL seaport
settlers, instead of urban Canaanites on Near Eastern coastlines.  The
histories of the Canaanite-Phoenicians written by Sancthuniathon  et
al., who had access to more ancient archives still in Byblos, referred
explicitly to their origin as an URBANIZED people in the Holy Land who LATER
just happened to develop a sea trade (after the MINOAN civilization fell).
They too declined as the Mycenaeans, evolving into "Greeks," grew in greater
favor with Egypt, who, as "breadbasket of the Mediterranean," was always in
"remote-control" of the Levant -- until itself conquered by Persia, and by
Persia's conqueror, Alexander.
The sea-rule of the Phoenicians and Mycenaeans spanned a mere 500 years, 1100
to 600 BC, coinciding with Israel's history.  That was "Egypt's" only great
maritime period too -- excluding seafaring feats attributed to Old Kingdom
pharaohs 1500 years earlier.
(And that EARLIER epoch, according to Herodotus, was when Egypt founded
Byblos, first of its "colonies" in the Near East [and ALSO when Egyptians
colonized Crete?].)

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[CTRL] Export-Import Bank and US Foreign Policy

1999-12-22 Thread Das GOAT

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 "Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, in an unusual meeting with
Export-Import Bank bank chairman James Harmon, at first tried to persuade the
bank, an independent federal agency, to do as the Clinton administration
wished.  Later, she formally invoked an obscure law that allows the
administration to intervene in the Bank's decisions."


US Gov't Bank Blocks Russian Loans

By DAVID BRISCOE
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Clinton administration is blocking $500 million in
loans to an oil company partially owned by the Russian government. Proceeds
would have gone directly to American companies.

With U.S. officials expressing concern about dealings of Russia's Tyumen Oil
Co. and about maintaining ``the rule of law'' in Russia, Secretary of State
Madeleine Albright invoked a provision late Tuesday that compelled the U.S.
Export-Import Bank to temporarily reject guarantees for the loans.

The Russian Fuel and Energy Ministry declined to comment today on the move.

Administration officials denied her decision was related to strong U.S.
objections to Russian military actions in Chechnya, although it came amid
calls for a halt to such loans over Chechnya from members of Congress and
Democratic presidential hopeful Bill Bradley.

``He welcomes the State Department decision,'' Bradley spokesman Eric Hauser
said, noting that for several weeks the candidate has been saying it is
inappropriate to give assistance to Russia while it is engaged in ``the
brutal war in Chechnya.''

Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., had called for the bank to stop the loans to
Tyumen because of reports it forced a company with partial American ownership
into bankruptcy to obtain its oil fields.

She also praised Tuesday's decision, saying it will allow ``scrutiny of the
report of manipulation of bankruptcy law involving this company.''

Albright, in an unusual meeting with bank chairman James Harmon, at first
tried to persuade the bank, an independent federal agency, to act on its own
Tuesday.

Later, she sent a letter to the bank, formally invoking a law that allows the
administration to intervene in its decisions.

``The State Department has determined that it is in the national interest and
would advance U.S. policy with Russia not to approve the loan guarantees for
the time being,'' said Alan Larson, undersecretary of state for economic
affairs.

Bank officials said the loan guarantees would not be approved until the State
Department withdraws its objections.

Loan proceeds, to be extended by private banks with the Ex-Im bank
guarantees, would have gone to Halliburton Co. of Dallas and 24 other U.S.
companies in payment for U.S.-made oil and gas equipment and services to be
purchased by the Russians.

``All money authorized remains in the United States,'' the bank said.

Bank officials insist they are required to consider transactions based only
on ``commercial reasons and creditworthiness and their positive impact in
creating or sustaining U.S. jobs.''

The bank staff had recommended approval of two loans for Tyumen to bolster
Russia's oil industry: $295 million for oil field services and $203 million
in engineering services and equipment for upgrading a refinery.

State Department spokesman James Foley said the department has been concerned
with Tyumen over issues of openness, management of bankruptcy proceedings and
protection of the rights of shareholders and creditors.

These issues are related to a larger goal of ``promoting the rule of law in
Russia,'' he said.

He also noted that Tyumen Oil was changing the makeup of its ownership
Tuesday, requiring further examination by the bank before approving the
loans.

In the past, U.S. officials have resisted pressure to impose sanctions
against Russia, and Albright and others have said they do not want to do
anything that would impede Russian economic progress.

On that issue, a senior administration official, briefing reporters on
condition of anonymity after the decision, said the department eventually
hopes to support the loans.

``We certainly hope it will be possible for this project to go forward under
the right conditions,'' the official said, adding that it would improve
Russian oil fields and benefit U.S. suppliers.

``It has economic advantages on both sides,'' the official said. ``At the
same time, the establishment of the rule of law is really fundamental to any
kind of long-term economic progress.''

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[CTRL] Demo Donors: First Red China, Now Russian Mafia

1999-12-22 Thread Das GOAT

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Political Donor Said Tied to Mob

By TIMOTHY WILLIAMS
.c The Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) - A campaign contributor to Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and Sen.
Charles Schumer has been identified by the FBI as a member of a Russian crime
syndicate whose company has laundered millions of dollars.

Semyon ``Sam'' Kislin, 64, along with family members and businesses, gave
$46,250 to the mayoral campaigns of Giuliani in 1993 and 1997 and $8,000 to
the Senate campaign of Schumer last year.

Schumer is a New York Democrat. Giuliani is a Republican. Kislin and his
family have also donated to the re-election campaigns of President Clinton
and former Sen. Alfonse D'Amato, R-N.Y.

Kislin, a commodities trader prominent in the Russian Jewish emigre community
in Brooklyn, has denied any wrongdoing. He was vacationing in the Bahamas and
could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

Kislin is also a board member of the city's Economic Development Corp., which
is charged with protecting the city's job and economic base.

Giuliani, a likely candidate for a New York Senate seat, said he knew Kislin
and his wife but was not aware of Kislin's reputed mob ties.

``I'm not aware of any of the allegations,'' the mayor said. ``They have not
contributed to the federal (Senate) campaign...They have not raised any money
(for me) since, I think, September 1997.''

A spokeswoman for Schumer said the senator had also been unaware of Kislin's
ties.

``Our campaign policy was to do background checks on our donors,'' said the
spokeswoman, Cathie Levine. ``Our research raised no red flags. If any of the
allegations prove true, we will absolutely return the money.''

Kislin's suspected involvement with organized crime was first reported
Tuesday by the Center for Public Integrity, a nonprofit, nonpartisan group
based in Washington.

Despite internal FBI reports on Kislin alleging money laundering and mob
ties, the bureau has not pursued charges. FBI spokesman Joe Valiquette
declined to comment Tuesday.

A 1994 FBI intelligence report obtained by The Associated Press claims Kislin
is a ``member or associate'' of a Brighton Beach crime operation headed by
Vyacheslav ``Little Japanese'' Ivankov, who got 10 years in prison in 1997
for extortion and a fraudulent marriage aimed at preventing his deportation.

The FBI report said Trans Commodities ``is known to have laundered millions
of dollars from Russia to New York.''

In an interview with the center, Kislin said he doesn't know Ivankov and
noted that he has never been charged with a crime. He also denied that his
company, Trans Commodities, laundered money for Russian organized crime
figures.

As for the mayor, he said: ``I did a lot of fund raising for Giuliani. ...
He's a good man, doing a good job for the city of New York.''

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[CTRL] Quarantine the US to Prevent "Terrorism" ?

1999-12-22 Thread Das GOAT

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 Seal the borders, ground all flights, search all automobiles ...
 But that sword cuts both ways.  If no one can get IN, how can anyone get
OUT?


Tension Growing at Nation's Borders

By DAVID GRAM
.c The Associated Press

MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) - If authorities are right, Lucia Garofalo had tried
repeatedly this month to enter the country at remote spots along Quebec's
border with New England. Once, she got in.

But on Sunday evening, bomb-sniffing dogs at the Beecher Falls border station
in northern Vermont indicated they had found something in her car. No bombs
were found, but Ms. Garofalo, 35, and Bouabide Chamchi, 20, were arrested
anyway and accused of conspiring to use a false passport and other
immigration violations.

It is the latest sign of growing tension along the nation's borders. As the
government warned Tuesday that Americans around the world may be the target
of terrorist attacks over the next two weeks, airport security was being
tightened at home and federal officials beefed up personnel at border
stations from Maine to the Pacific Northwest and south to the border with
Mexico.

The Vermont arrests came only a few days after another man, Ahmed Ressam, was
arrested in Port Angeles, Wash., on charges of carrying explosives.
Authorities are checking for any links. Chamchi and Ressam are Algerians.

As for Ms. Garofalo, authorities said she was allowed to cross into the
United States on Dec. 6. She returned to Canada on Dec. 12.

Noel Induni, agent in charge of the Immigration and Naturalization Service in
St. Albans, said Ms. Garofalo also tried to cross from Canada into New
Hampshire on Dec. 15 with a different man. They were turned away because the
man did not have proper identification and their car held more luggage than
was consistent with the story they gave for visiting.

Along the normally open and porous northern border, the Border Patrol and
Customs Service are urging longer hours and higher alertness from their
officers.

``We have what's referred to as an open border with Canada,'' said Charles
Tetzlaff, U.S. attorney for Vermont. ``Many of us on the northern border have
been concerned with certain aspects of it for some time'' - particularly with
law officers spread thin.

``There are areas along the border that just aren't covered on a given
shift,'' added Keith Olson, president of the local Border Patrol officers'
union in Bellingham, Wash., about 25 miles south of the crossing at Blaine.

>From Blaine to Maine, as officers are fond of saying, there are only 289
border patrol officers guarding the areas outside official ports of entry.
Along the U.S.-Mexican border, there are 8,200 agents, according to the INS.

In Washington state, fewer than 50 officers patrol about 150 miles of border
from the tip of the Olympic Peninsula to the foothills of the Cascade
Mountains.

``We have three agents here in Port Angeles to cover the entire peninsula,''
said Mike Baker, patrol agent in charge of the Port Angeles office. ``We have
really good people, but we don't have the resources.''

There are similar stories elsewhere. Carol Jenifer, the INS district director
in Detroit, said the agency has 150 agents and Customs has 300 to do
inspections and patrol Michigan's 700-mile border with Canada.

During the last fiscal year, the INS did 45 million inspections in Michigan
and denied access to about 17,200 people.

In Detroit, where the Ambassador Bridge is the busiest U.S.-Canada border
crossing, an Arab family crossing from Windsor, Ontario, was stopped for 45
minutes Tuesday.

``They have the right to ask because some idiot, they do some bad things,''
said Freddy Zouki, who is from Algeria but works for a Montreal oil company.
``I absolutely agree with what they are doing. They are doing their job.''

But his wife's brother, Roger Malki, 24, a Syrian national who is a student
at the University of Montreal, was angry that agents asked them to pull over
at a secondary inspection point.

``Is this just because we are Arabs?'' he yelled at the agent.

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[CTRL] FCC: TV Station Had To Run Bush Ad

1999-12-22 Thread Das GOAT

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FCC: TV Station Had To Run Bush Ad

MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) - New Hampshire's biggest television news station had
no choice about running an ad by a Florida lawyer that says Texas Gov. George
W. Bush used cocaine and suffered from ``alcohol abuse,'' even if the
allegations are false, federal officials said Tuesday.

Andy Martin, a West Palm Beach lawyer and perennial candidate for various
political offices, is running the ad on WMUR-TV, an ABC affiliate that has
aired presidential debates.

The Bush campaign said it had not asked WMUR to stop running the ad.
Spokesman Ari Fleischer said the station would have to decide that on its
own.

Fleischer said: ``These things are as mean-spirited as they are inaccurate.''

But WMUR spokeswoman Julie Campasano said the station never considered
withholding the ad.

``It wasn't even an issue. The law is the law,'' she said. ``The FCC says
clearly, a legally qualified candidate can say whatever they want to say in
their message, and we as a station have no authority, permission or right to
censor or otherwise edit any of the spots.''

A Federal Communications Commission official said Tuesday the station has no
choice but to accept the ad if it is paid for by a qualified candidate for
federal office and the candidate appears in the ad. Courts have ruled that
broadcasters cannot be held liable for running false ads, he said.

Bush has refused to answer some questions about his past, saying only that he
has not used illegal drugs since 1975. No evidence has surfaced that he ever
used cocaine.

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[CTRL] Al Fayed Jury In

1999-12-22 Thread Das GOAT

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Harrods Boss Wins Legal Victory

By ROBERT BARR
.c The Associated Press

LONDON (AP) - Mohamed Al Fayed, the flamboyant merchant whose son died with
Princess Diana, exulted Tuesday in a legal victory over a legislator he
accused of accepting wads of cash for parliamentary favors.

``Christmas has come early. This is total vindication,'' Al Fayed said after
the jury rejected the libel suit by former Conservative Party lawmaker Neil
Hamilton.

The Egyptian-born owner of Harrods department store said he would now renew
his pursuit of a British passport, which has been denied because of questions
about his honesty and his admission that he put legislators on his payroll.

Al Fayed had been sued by Neil Hamilton, a former member of Parliament whose
career was ruined by the allegations that he accepted envelopes of cash and a
lavish stay at Al Fayed's Ritz Hotel in Paris in return for favors.

``At the moment, I just feel cold inside,'' said Hamilton, who told reporters
he was broke after losing the case.

Earlier, he had sued The Guardian newspaper for printing Al Fayed's claims,
but dropped that case claiming lack of money.

The Hamilton case contributed greatly to the ``sleaze'' issue that damaged
Prime Minister John Major's government before its defeat in the 1997 general
election.

Another Conservative lawmaker admitted taking Al Fayed's money, and the store
owner's accusations started a complex series of investigations that put
former Tory Cabinet minister Jonathan Aitken in jail for perjury.

``I hope that this is the end of a sad and unpleasant episode which has been
damaging to our party,'' Conservative Chairman Michael Ancram said. ``I trust
that the personalities involved will now retire from the scene.''

The monthlong trial, billed by the British Broadcasting Corp. as ``the best
show in town,'' had attracted full galleries in court each day.

Lawyers for the two sides dissected Hamilton's lavish room-service bill at
the Ritz, and sparred over Al Fayed's belief that the British secret
services, directed by Queen Elizabeth II's husband, Prince Philip, had
engineered the death of his son, Dodi, and Princess Diana in a Paris car
crash.

``Let Prince Philip sue me. Let MI5 and MI6 sue me,'' Al Fayed testified.
``They know they are above the law.''

Though Al Fayed won, the trial did little to enhance his reputation.

In his summation, Justice Michael Morland suggested Al Fayed's ``obsessional
attitude and beliefs have distorted his perception of the truth,'' and that
the jury should decide whether Al Fayed's version was adequately supported by
other witnesses.

Hamilton resigned from his government post in 1994 and lost his seat in 1997
after Al Fayed's accusations.

A parliamentary committee reported in 1998 that there was compelling evidence
Hamilton accepted up to up to $40,000 from Al Fayed, but ``no absolute
proof.''

It concluded that Hamilton's conduct fell ``seriously and persistently below
the standards'' expected of a lawmaker, and said he likely would have been
suspended if had not already lost his seat.

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[CTRL] Let Them Eat Bush

1999-12-22 Thread Das GOAT

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Bush Questions Hunger Report

By JIM VERTUNO
.c The Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - If Texas Gov. George W. Bush doubts the number of hungry
people in his home state, he can come see them himself, say advocates for the
poor and food bank officials.

Food is flying off the shelves as food banks try to serve poor people during
the holiday season, food bank officials said.

Bush sparked criticism from advocates for the poor across the state Monday by
saying he doesn't believe a federal report that the country's second-largest
state is also the second hungriest.

``I'm sure there are some people in my state who are hungry,'' Bush said at a
campaign stop in Manchester, N.H. ``I don't believe 5 percent are hungry.''

Food bank officials, however, say distribution in some areas is 38 percent
higher than 1998 while an 8 percent increase in contributions has failed to
keep pace.

``Where can I get hold of Mr. Bush? I'd like him to come visit our food bank
to see how empty our shelves are right now. We're scrounging for food,'' said
Amelia Gonzalez, executive director of the Community Food Bank of Victoria,
Texas.

``Oh my. How can I put this tactfully? If he says he will see to it there are
no hungry people in Texas, that's good news,'' said Judy Carter, executive
director of the Capitol Area Food Bank in Austin.

``Certainly, our experience is there are many hungry people.''

Bush, who is running for the Republican presidential nomination, also
questioned the timing of the Agriculture Department report that said 5
percent of Texas families sometimes go hungry.

Bush, who is running on a theme of ``compassionate conservatism,'' suggested
the report released in October might have been released to embarrass him.

``Yeah, I'm surprised a report floats out of Washington when I'm running a
presidential campaign,'' he said. ``It seems like a lot of reports are
floating out of Washington.''

Agriculture Department spokesman Andy Solomon denied there was any intent to
embarrass Bush.

``It might be tough to believe that during the best economy in generations
hunger persists in America and in Texas, but as our study and as food banks
in the governor's state can tell you, it does,'' Solomon said. ``Part of the
difficulty in addressing the problem of hunger is getting people to
acknowledge it.''

The report covered the years 1996-98. Bush took office in 1995.

``Its a shame he's not better informed about such an important issue,'' said
Celia Hagert, nutrition policy analyst for the Center for Public Policy
Priorities, an advocacy group for poor Texans. ``It's not some new report
from some left-wing organization. It's not telling a new story. Texas has
always had high levels of poverty and high levels of hunger.''

The report measured the percentage of households that experience ``food
insecurity'' - defined as difficulty in getting adequate, nutritious and safe
food - as well as hunger - an ``uneasy or painful sensation caused by lack of
food.''

The report found 12.9 percent of Texas households experienced food
insecurity, compared with a national average of 9.7 percent. Five percent
experienced hunger, compared with 3.5 percent nationally. Only Oregon had a
higher proportion of hungry families, 5.8 percent.

In 1995, Bush vetoed a bill that would have created the Texas Food Security
Council to study hunger in Texas and help local officials solve their hunger
problems. The council would have included members from state agencies as well
as from nonprofit food policy councils and agriculture sectors.

Bush's veto said a private entity could be more effective.

Americans often don't recognize hunger in the United States, said Liz Morris,
spokeswoman for Interfaith Ministries in Houston, which coordinates a network
of 90 church food pantries.

Hungry children won't have the bloated bellies of starvation but still need
food, she said.

``Hunger looks different in the United States than it does in Third World
countries,'' she said. ``We don't have a lot of starvation but we do have
chronic malnutrition - people who water down cereal or skip breakfast for
their children.''

``People may be employed but not making enough to feed their families,'' she
said. ``At the end of World War II, somebody with the sweat of his brow and
labor of his hands could feed their family. Today, without a degree, you
can't make enough to feed your family.''

Bush sounded of like mind on that last point in a speech to students Monday
afternoon. He told them how important it is to work hard in school, go on to
higher education and become conversant with the Internet.

``Years ago, you could make a pretty good living if you could lift things,''
he said. ``Today, you need to think.''

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[CTRL] Journalist Indicted for Seeking Info in Ramsey Case

1999-12-22 Thread Das GOAT

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Tabloid Editor Arrested Over Ramsey

GOLDEN, Colo. (AP) - An editor of a supermarket tabloid was arrested Monday
after being indicted on extortion and bribery charges for his efforts to
obtain information about the JonBenet Ramsey murder case.

A grand jury in Jefferson County returned an indictment last week charging
Globe editor Craig Lewis, 44, with criminal extortion and commercial bribery,
the district attorney's office said. He faces up to nine years in prison if
convicted.

A jail officer said he was released on $5,000 bond after he turned himself
in.

``Mr. Lewis has done nothing wrong,'' said his lawyer, Jeffrey Pagliuca. ``He
was working as a journalist and trying to obtain information. Legally,
morally and ethically, he is wrongfully accused.''

The indictment accuses Lewis of offering $30,000 for a copy of the ransom
note that JonBenet's mother, Patsy Ramsey, reported finding hours before her
daughter was found dead.

``We believe the conduct as set forth in this indictment clearly crosses the
line of legitimate news gathering activity and violates Colorado law,''
District Attorney Dave Thomas said in a statement.

Mrs. Ramsey told police she found the 2 1/2-page ransom note on the back
stairs of the family's home in Boulder on Dec. 26, 1996, hours before
6-year-old JonBenet was found beaten and strangled in the basement.

The grand jury in August indicted Boulder attorney Thomas C. Miller, 48, on
commercial bribery charges, alleging he brokered an April 1997 attempt to buy
a copy of the then-unreleased ransom note for $30,000.

Lewis is accused of accompanying Miller and offering to buy the note from a
document examiner employed by attorneys representing JonBenet's parents. The
examiner declined the offer.

The extortion charge centers on allegations that Lewis planned to force
former Boulder police Detective Steve Thomas into an interview about JonBenet
by threatening to publish photographs of Thomas' deceased mother and a story
saying she committed suicide.

The district attorney's office waited to announce Thursday's indictment until
it was filed in court Monday.

Last week, a judge rejected a defense request to block the indictment.
Lawyers for Lewis and the tabloid said the laws being used against him were
unconstitutionally broad and would have a chilling effect on reporters' First
Amendment rights.

A Boulder County grand jury that investigated the Ramsey case ended more than
a year of work in October without an indictment.

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[CTRL] OEN 12/22/99

1999-12-22 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
Click Here: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin
Grabbe
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Information Warfare


Be Afraid. Be Very Afraid.


Janet Reno, Louis Freeh, Sandy Berger, and Madeleine Albright are
"protecting" you from terrorists.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The State Department issued a new worldwide warning
Tuesday night that Americans may be the target of terrorist attacks in the
New Year period.

Large groups of people, assembled for religious festivals or to mark the
millennium, may be especially at risk, the department said.

Arrests in Jordan last week have produced information that hotels, tour buses
and tourist sites in the Arab kingdom may have been targeted, the statement
said.

However, even after the arrests of 13 suspects, ``we cannot rule out the
possibility that attacks still may be planned for this and other parts of the
world,'' the department said.

Amid heightened concerns about the possibility of a holiday terrorist attack
at home as well as abroad, security was ordered tightened Tuesday at American
airports and the Pentagon said it was taking ``appropriate action'' to
protect U.S. forces overseas.

White House spokesman Joe Lockhart reiterated a State Department warning that
there was ``credible information'' about potential terrorist threats abroad,
and that Americans should stay in touch with U.S. embassies or consulates.

An earlier worldwide caution was issued Dec. 11. At the time, a senior U.S.
official said, the U.S. government knew a plot had been uncovered in Jordan.

``The announcement was designed to keep Americans abreast of the
counter-terrorism operation,'' said the official, who spoke to The Associated
Press on condition of anonymity.

The official also said authorities were looking for a 31-year-old U.S.
citizen from California with ties to Osama bin Laden, the Saudi exile the
Clinton administration considers the mastermind of a worldwide terrorist
operation.

Anxiety has increased since last week's arrest of an Algerian who crossed
into Washington state from Canada in a car carrying bomb-making materials.

The Federal Aviation Administration said travelers should expect tightened
security precautions at airports, including stricter enforcement of parking
regulations.

The agency said it would make more use of devices to check airline passengers
for small traces of explosives and additional bomb-sniffing dogs and
uniformed police would patrol airports as the new year approaches.

In another development, law enforcement officials said they were searching
for as many as three people they believe may have been accomplices to the
Algerian arrested last week.

The new warning to Americans was stated clearly: ``The U.S. government
believes that terrorists may be planning to conduct attacks, including
against official and non-official Americans, in and around the New Year
period, from now through mid-January 2000.''

At the Pentagon, spokesman Kenneth Bacon said the Defense Department last
week sent to U.S. military commanders worldwide two advisories highlighting
State Department cautions about terrorist threats against Americans abroad.

The messages also provided ``other information'' relevant to the security of
U.S. forces. Bacon would not be more specific, although he said no commanders
abroad had requested additional equipment or other assets to increase
security on their bases.

Asked specifically if the Pentagon had taken any new precautions or put any
additional military assets on standby, Bacon said only, ``We're taking
appropriate action.''

Also Tuesday, Federal Election Commission employees in Washington were told
to evacuate their building shortly after 5 p.m. because of a threat directed
against the FBI building across the street, FEC spokeswoman Sharon Snyder
said. The FBI denied there was a problem.
The U.S. Embassy in Quito, Ecuador, was closed Friday over concern it might
be targeted by terrorists, the State Department's deputy spokesman, James B.
Foley, said Tuesday.

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, CIA Director George Tenet, Gen. Henry
H. Shelton, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, and several other senior
U.S. officials met for two hours Monday at the White House to consider
issuing new public warnings about the potential for yearend terrorist attacks
here and abroad.

Various statements were drafted for their review, but none was approved, a
senior government official told AP.

The primary causes of concern are the travel of some suspected terrorists
from one country to another, and reports that a terrorist group linked to bin
Laden may be planning attacks, said another official, who spoke on condition
of anonymity.

Last week, Jordanian authorities announced the arrest of 13 members of the
terrorist group linked to bin Laden and said they were planning attacks
against Americans, Israelis and other targets.

Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi, long accused by the United States of
supporting terrorism, 

[CTRL] The Best of Seasons to Ya'll . . .

1999-12-22 Thread Kris Millegan

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To you and yours.

Have a happy, merry time.   ;-)

Ho Ho Hosanna!!!

Om
K

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[CTRL] GOLD

1999-12-22 Thread Kris Millegan

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from: a friend
As, always, Caveat Lector
Om
K
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Robert Chapman

December 22, 1999


GOLD


The manipulation continues unabated. The Dutch central bank has announced it

intends to sell 300 tons of its gold reserves over the next five years.

Nederlandsche Bank will sell 100 tons initially and then 200 tons over five

years. That will leave them a reserve of 700 tons. They will not be

announcing the sales beforehand. These sales are part of a plan of the 15

European central banks to limit their total gold sales to 2000 tons during

the next five years and to freeze gold lending levels. There was no need to

make such an announcement other than to influence a sensitive gold market.


There is no question the FED is operating in the gold derivative markets.

This is why Alan Greenspan was so animate during the Congressional hearings

that there should be no regulation of over-the-counter derivatives.

Legislation would have stopped the FED's manipulation of the gold market.

The FED's actions particularly facilitates the gold carry trade which keeps

sustained downward pressure on gold prices and creates bogus liquidity,

which keeps the world stock markets well oiled. Recent and future gold sales

by the BofE rendering their gold reserve position to that of a third world

nation, and the subsequent sale announcement by the Dutch central bank, were

certainly engineered in their fashion to lower gold bullion prices and in

all likelihood to bail out the FED's put or short position. Every single

move or announcement by any central bank, government spokesman, politician,

investment banker or broker, regarding gold has been calculated to drive it

lower. There is an institutional commonality of interest for lower gold

prices. That is to reflect stability in their non-gold paper system, which

is systemically bankrupt. If gold goes higher many might think the stock

markets are going lower. A break below 9000-9200 on the Dow would signal a

correction of more than 20% and thus a bear market, which would bring this

monetary and financial charade to an end. Thus there is much at stake. If,

as we have predicted, the 20% barrier is reached, we can assure you the FED

will be in the stock market at any cost keeping it from going lower. Since

its 1913 inception the FED has been a disaster for the American public, but

it has made untold trillions for bankers and brokers. The bubble is there.

It will be pricked and we ultimately will have a bear market no matter what

the FED does. Conversely, gold will rise again from its depths and reassert

its position as the only real money.


There is 13,000 tons a gold in India, almost all of which is in private

hands. It buys 1/5 of world production and demand is increasing due to good

harvests and over 6% growth this year and next. The government regards

owning gold as barbaric and medieval, a threat to the balance of payments

and a wasteful diversion of savings into a non-productive asset. Last year

600 tons of gold was imported at a cost of $7 billion. In January, the

government increased customs duty on gold by 160%in an effort to curb the

outflow of funds. The government has offered a gold deposit scheme. An

individual company or trust can deposit as little as 200 grams of gold for 3

to 7 years for a gold certificate which pays an interest rate of 3-4%, tax

free. At the end of the term the certificate can be exchanged for gold or

the market value of the gold with no capital gains tax. The certificates are

transferable and can be used as security for a loan. Jewelers can borrow

gold at 9 to 10% less than the cash borrowing rates. The goal is to borrow

100 tons a year saving about $1.2 billion in foreign exchange. Most of the

gold is in the form of jewelry that would have to be melted down, destroying

the value of work, which is usually 15%. A major problem for the government

program is most of the gold was bought with unreported funds. If exposed to

the government it makes the owner liable to prosecution. Our guess is they

may get 20-50 tons the first year and less later. Those who own gold trust

neither the government nor the financial system, thus we forecast the

program as another bureaucratic failure to control citizen wealth and gold

prices.


Gold industry officials have been contacted by government regulators, such

as the British Financial Services Authority and the FED, in regard to the

firms' gold hedge-book exposures stemming from a little-known detail about

producers' hedge contracts, especially in regard to lack of margin calls,

which was part of the contract agreement. As gold prices fell commercial

hedgers gave increasingly favorable terms rationalizing it by thinking

margin calls are only for speculators. What pray tell were the producers

doing if not speculating. The banks who wrote the derivatives are over

extended by billions of dollars and liquidity is now since absent from the

market. The ba

[CTRL] Fwd: [apfn] Re: ~~~Federal Detention Centers~~~ Follow up Intel]

1999-12-22 Thread Kris Millegan







From: APFNetwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks John for the effort, research and report;

APFNetwork

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: ~~~Federal Detention Centers~~~
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 18:30:27 -0800
From: "Deuce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "APFN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ok. I went down there myself and can confirm that the building does indeed
exist. I also took a few pictures. I'll comment on the different parts of
this email.

> > The building looks like a cross between a prison and a hospital.  It is
> > huge -- about the height of the Federal Murrah Building but twice the
> > depth -- square rather than rectangular with a gray concrete facade
> > punctuated with small, vertical slit windows.  The lower two or three
> > stories are decorated with red brick.

Basically true, though the design of the building is not quite square.

>>The marquee out in front of the
> > building reads "Federal Detention Center" with a UN insignia above it and
> > address number 2425 below it,

False. There is NO UN insignia. Only a US Department of Justice emblem. I
will forward the photo of this marquee when the film is developed.

> > which piqued my interest, inasmuch as word
> > number 2424 in the New Testament lexicon is the word "Iesous" (Jesus).
> > Words> of opposite meaning are very often found next to each other in
> > alphabetic sequence.

No comment.

> > When he was in Seattle recently, my friend drove with a friend of his to
> > this "Federal Detention Center."  They parked in a spot marked for
> > "visitors," went into the reception area and asked when tours were held.

There are no parking spots marked for visitors, and I highly doubt they were
able to just walk right up to the reception area. I parked on the street
after seeing (and taking a photo) of the sign to the only two entrances of
the parking lot that gave clear warning that all vehicles and people are
subject to search. I then walked onto the parking lot and was immediately
met by a guard who told me to put my hands in the air where he could see
them. He then asked me if I had a camera and told me that I was only allowed
to take pictures from the sidewalk along the main roads. I asked him about
tours. He told me I could talk to the PR guy named Lawrence Tubbs Mon-Fri
between 8:00AM-3:00pm. He was friendly, but said he was not allowed to
answer any other questions. I'll follow up if possible with Mr. Tubbs next
week.

 (about the alledged tour inside. I wasn't allowed in, so can't
comment)

> > My friend said that every one of the detention center personnel he saw was
> > black and very large in stature.

I saw the one guard who was shorter than me (I'm 6'0) and not all that large
in stature. He was Asian.

 (more about the inside...can't comment)

> > Outside the facility were parked five or six unmarked busses and several
> > white semi trailers.  Upon looking closer, my friend could see that behind
> > the dark tinted windows of the bus were bars.  He showed us photos of two of

> > the buses.  They were like brand new Greyhound Busses, minus any writing on
> > the thick white line background running the length of the bus with a thin
> > red line above it.

I saw two greyhound-type busses that matched the description above. I wasn't
allowed to get close enough to see in the windows, so I can't confirm bars.
There were no semi trucks or trailers. There were a few white vans and small
delivery-type trucks with the Department of Justice emblems.

> > When they asked what a "Federal Detention Center" was for and how it
> > differed from a State or Federal Prison, they were told that these centers
> > were built under the direction of President Clinton for those who committed
> > federal crimes which fit into three basic categories:
> >
> > (1) Gun Violations
> > (2) Crimes crossing state borders
> > (3) Crimes committed on Indian Reservations
> >
> > Apparently there are eight such structures in the U.S.  My friend showed us
> > a photo of another Detention Center under construction in Oklahoma.

The above info doesn't seem to be correct in that these are no different in
nature from other federal prisons. It is listed with a whole host of others
found on the Federal Bureau of Prisons website.

Main page
http://www.bop.gov/

Directory:
http://www.bop.gov/facilnot.html

Here's the info this site gives for what kind of criminals are held in these
buildings:

Who is a Federal Inmate? http://www.bop.gov/inmate.html
With a few exceptions, only inmates convicted of violating Federal laws
(laws of the United States) are sent to Federal prisons. Individuals
awaiting trial for violating Federal laws are also held in Federal prisons.
The Federal Bureau of Prisons also houses a few state inmates. However, most
inmates convicted of violating state or local laws are sent to state prisons
or city or county jails. If you are not sure whether a particular prison is
Federal, check Directory on this Web page for a complete list.

Re: [CTRL] Anarchism: Two Kinds / Wendy McElroy

1999-12-22 Thread nessie

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> Property is theft.
  Property is liberty.
  Property is impossible.



Proudhon is obviously talking about three different things. The word
"property" is like the word "love." It has more than one meaning. You
"love" your girlfriend. You "love" your mother. You "love" pizza. These
are obviously different things. So too are the three different kinds of
property.

"Property is theft" refers to private property, i.e., a factory where
workers toil to produce goods the owner sells back to us. We built those
factories. They rightfully belong to us. We were robbed.

"Property is liberty" refers to personal property. If the things you
actually use, your home, your car, your tools, your toys, etc. are not
entirely immune to confiscation and forfieture, your "liberty" is an cruel
illusion.

"Property is impossible" refers to public property. A long as the things
we all use, the roads, the schools, the airwaves, etc. are under control
of the state and of private capital and not of the public, public property
is impossible.

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Re: [CTRL] GOP senator vows to block Clinton picks

1999-12-22 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 12/21/1999 7:25:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

<<
 A Republican senator said yesterday he will block all of President Clintons
 judicial nominees next year because Mr. Clinton on Friday quietly broke his
 written promise to notify the Senate before making recess appointments.

 A Republican senator said yesterday he will block all of President Clintons
 judicial nominees next year because Mr. Clinton on Friday quietly broke his
 written promise to notify the Senate before making recess appointments.
  The presidents reappointment of Sarah Fox, a labor-friendly member of
 the National Labor Relations Board, came without the required notice before
 the Senate left town, said Sen. James M. Inhofe, Oklahoma Republican. >>

So what's new.  The Republicans have been doing this for the past seven
years.  If they can't appoint the people, they'll keep the people from being
appointed.  Inhofe is a notorious idiot anyway.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Re-Formed IRS

1999-12-22 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

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 Some 16 months later, the real motivation behind the “reform” campaign has
 become clear. The American tax system has been skewed even more to favor the
 rich at the expense of working and poor people. >>

What a surprise!   Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] [EWAR] New Worm virus - from "CTRL List"

1999-12-22 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Fortunately this worm, W32.NewApt.Worm, (which is NOT a virus) is "only"
annoying. The answer to all virus issues is ALWAYS: KEEP YOUR ANTI-VIRUS
DEFINITIONS UP TO DATE. If your AV program allows you to opt for automatic
updating, select that. If you have to update manually, make an appointment
to do it at the same time each week. There are a godawful lot of viruses,
worms, "joke" programs, and other stuff going around right now, and it's up
to individual users to defend themselves.

> -Original Message-
> From: Kris Millegan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 7:23 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] [EWAR] New Worm virus - from "CTRL List"
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 12/21/99 3:54:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > Watch your Off-List e-mail messages for the following .EXE
> >
> > attachments, comprising the "W32.NewApt.Worm" worm virus.
> >
> > I received two of them recently, from the same virus brain:
>
>  Bill, I am confused, I do not see the attachment in the CTRL archives and
> you yourself sent the email on the topic from Orbit.
>
> Did someone send you something in response, personally?
>
> Om
> k
>
>

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[CTRL] The East India Company…

1999-12-22 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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69685-4821620">Amazon.com: buying info: The East India Company…
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yowche on price . . . Why? Ain't in any libraries, i found yet, either.

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k
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Re: [CTRL] Zipped File-Report To Pres. And Congress Re:Terrorism and ...

1999-12-22 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Bill, if you have a very large item to send to the list, save it as a text
file and then split it into two or three separate messages. Sending stuff
from AOL is a problem anyway; when I am using MS Outlook Web Access to read
mail from my company's e-mail server over the Web, I can't open AOL
attachments...and AOL treats any forwarded message as an attachment, which
is a royal, ah, bain in the putt.

> -Original Message-
> From: William Shannon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 7:31 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Zipped File-Report To Pres. And Congress
> Re:Terrorism and ...
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 12/20/99 9:47:11 PM Central Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << better send
>  it as text or you may be making a wasted effort.  Also, please refrain
> from
>  using cute background colors and patterns as this makes reading difficult
> and
>  I usually dump them, without reading. >>
>
> Uh, yeah well this "text" would exceed the lomits imposed on me by my
> e-mail
> server, it's a huge file...and I certainly didn't use any "cute" colours
> or
> patterns...
> Otherwise, thanks a ton for your advice...
> Bill
>
>

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Re: [CTRL] Paradigms

1999-12-22 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 12/22/1999 2:47:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< (Shell came to the conclusion that it is perceived to be both internally
and
 externally as big, rich focussed on governments, obsessed with consensus,
 gentelmanly and preoccupied with safety) >>

That's amazing.  When I think of Shell I think of the execution deaths of
anyone who doesn't agree with Shell.  I must have missed their gentlemanly
moment.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Cases to highlight Bush's death penalty role

1999-12-22 Thread DIG alfred webre

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Cases to highlight Bush's death penalty role

By John Aloysius Farrell
c.1999 The Boston Globe

AUSTIN, Texas -- George W. Bush is proud to call himself
"the
law-and-order governor." And rightly so. In five years in
office, he
has overseen the executions of 113 death row inmates,
more than
any other governor in any state since the death penalty
was
reinstated in 1976.

But the relentless efficiency of his state's death row
machinery is
about to intersect, vividly, with Bush's pursuit of his
party's
presidential nomination. In the five weeks before the
Iowa and New
Hampshire presidential contests, Texas is scheduled to
execute
eight more people, among them convicts whose cases put the
debate about the death penalty into high relief.

Two of the eight committed their crimes as juveniles. One
claims to
have been convicted on the basis of a faulty DNA test.
One is a
paranoid schizophrenic whose condition went untreated --
until he
killed.

And then there's Johnny Paul Penry.

Even supporters of capital punishment have been troubled
by the
Penry case. There is no excusing his heinous crime: In
1979, while
on parole for a previous rape conviction, he broke into
the home of
Pamela Carpenter, raped her, and then stabbed her to
death with
the scissors she was using to make a Halloween costume
for her
niece.

But Penry has the intellectual capacity of a 7-year-old.
He never
got past the first grade and spent his childhood years in
and out of
mental institutions. Court records describe how his
mother beat him
as a baby and dipped him in scalding water. She forced
him to eat
his bodily wastes, according to those records.

Penry's execution is sure to gain national attention, for
it was in his
case in 1989 that the US Supreme Court issued a
controversial
ruling that the death penalty for retarded individuals is
not a
constitutionally prohibited "cruel and unusual
punishment." He is
scheduled to die by lethal injection on Jan. 13.

Bush has not spoken publicly about the Penry case and, in
keeping
with his normal practice, he would not examine the facts
of the
case until the date set for execution. Bush has never
granted such
a reprieve. And it was the governor's opposition last
spring that led
to the scuttling of a bill that passed one house of the
Texas
Legislature. It would have banned executions of the
mentally
retarded.

The case of another Texas convict, Larry Robison, who has
been
diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, poses another
issue:
whether the mentally ill should be executed. In a bloody
rampage,
Robison slaughtered two men, two women, and an
11-year-old boy
near Fort Worth in 1982.

Before he launched his murderous spree by decapitating and
sexually mutilating his male housemate, Robison had no
history of
violence. His illness had been diagnosed when he was 21,
but he
was turned away from treatment because he lacked health
insurance. He has requested Jan. 21 as an execution date,
because
he wants to die on a night of a full moon.

The scheduled executions of Glen McGinnis (Jan. 25) and
Anzel
Jones (Jan. 26) and David Hicks (Jan. 20) offer other
windows onto
the death penalty and how determinedly Texas and Bush
enforce it.
McGinnis and Jones were both juveniles, 17 years old,
when they
committed their brutal crimes. Hicks, meanwhile, claims
that faulty
DNA analysis helped convict him of a crime he did not
commit -- the
rape and murder of his grandmother.

The death penalty has not yet emerged as a campaign issue
in a
nation where roughly two of three voters, and three of
four
Republicans, endorse the practice. Here in Texas, the most
prominent victims' rights organization speaks for many
when giving
Bush its whol

[CTRL] Fwd: Draft Cosmic Revolution

1999-12-22 Thread DIG alfred webre

>From UFOTruth list 12/22/99:

 Draft Statement on Cosmic Revolution

 Our planet and our culture are in crisis. Humanity is faced with a
 constellation of problems that may very well threaten the basis of our
 civilization. Industrial environmental pollution is a driving force
 behind global warming. This in turn has led to radical changes in
 weather that has triggered a series of unprecedented catastrophes,
 storms, droughts and enormous forest fires are threatening the well
 being of millions.

 Nationalistic rivalry among the worlds nations has created a situation
 where weapons of mass destruction are becoming increasingly
 widespread. Tens of thousands of nuclear weapons exist that if
 detonated could kill billions of people. The refusal of political
 leaders to create a disarmament regime spurs others to join the
 nuclear club. For those poor nations or fanatical movements that can't
 afford atomic devices, biological and chemical weapons are tempting
 means for terrorism.

 Racial, ethic, and religious discrimination and intolerance are causes
 of  civil wars and social unrest that are prevalent. A day does not go
 by when there is standstill in the, bombings, shootings, beatings and
 cursings that human kind carries out against fellow human beings
 because of perceived differences.

 Against this tragic backdrop of human folly a new development has
 arisen. Anomalous structured craft that appear to defy the laws of
 science as we know them are being seen in the sky. Stories of contact
 with strange beings of a presumed extraterrestrial nature are being
 circulated non-stop. The exact nature of this phenomenon defies
 explanation. No one knows from where these creatures come, whether
 from other star systems or from other dimensions in time space. They
 have remarkable powers to alter our perceptions of reality, to erase
 memory, to create illusion and  and perhaps over time even change our
 belief systems.

 The response of the planet's elites has been to simply try to ignore
 this phenomenon. It is my assessment that the presence of non-human
 intelligence threatens all terrestrial power. This would include the
 political, economic, religious and academic elites of planet Earth.
 Whether this phenomenon is one, with different manifestations, or
 represents an array of intelligences is not crucial to this
 discussion. Whether this "otherness"  be extra-terrestrial, inter
 dimensional, spiritual or physical is not so important at this time.
 What is important is that the people of our planet are being
 systematically denied information about this phenomenon, that
 witnesses are being ridiculed into silence, and that  academic centers
 have refused to initiate even an introductory investigation concerning
 the presence of non-human intelligence.

 Rumors of a secret war being fought by so called "Black Operations"
 against et spacecraft have surfaced. Back engineering of flying
 saucers have been the declared efforts of government sanctioned UFO
 groups in China. It may turn out that some of the great scientific
 breakthroughs of the 20th century were the result of integrating
 extra-terrestrial technology into our industrial culture.

 How can enlightened people respond to this crisis? For those of us who
 are aware of these developments, what can we do?. One approach has
 been for citizen investigators to carry out their own research into
 the phenomenon. Limited resources and lack of access to the corporate
 or government controlled media has marginalized the impact of citizen
 investigators.

 Others who have experienced positive contact with non-human
 intelligence have formed loose networks. They are called "contactees"
 and have shared their experiences and beliefs with those few who are
 willing to listen. Despite the growing number of contacts and
 investigations, the flying saucer culture has continued to been
 marginalized by general society. The elites' programs of secrecy and
 denial, and the understandable fear of the masses of something so
 strange, have been major forces  pushing this issue off the central
 stage that it rightfully deserves.

 What then is to be done? It is my hope that those who feel great love
 for our planet and its people and are working for peace, environmental
 protection and social justice, might be able to unite with those
 groups that are promoting contact. Such a notion is radical in the
 extreme. It is a process that should not be taken lightly. It would
 require nothing less than the creation of a new kind of revolutionary
 movement. One that could explore the links between acknowledging the
 presence of non-human intelligence, and finding solutions to the
 terrible problems that confront humanity.

 Such a peaceful revolutionary movement will likely face enormous
 obstacles. It is my judgment that it will require years to organize.
 Its true impact might not be felt for decades.  The stakes are high
 enough however, the protection of our planet and the

[CTRL] algore's $50B pre-school brain-washing suck plan

1999-12-22 Thread BARD

 -Caveat Lector-

far and wide!
The Fabian Socialists are determined to bend the mind of your children.
They can't wait until your child enters the corrupt public elementary
school,
they want your child as soon as you've finished breast-feeding.
IT'S UP TO YOU TO STOP THIS INSANITY in 11/2000.
The media thugs have warped your mind into believing that know best what
is good for you;
don't you get it?
Wake up from your state of denial as to what is going on!
Algore, the phony shyster, wants your child to suck the tits of the
bureaucrats
instead of you caring for your child as YOU deem best.


Bard

"They have a bigger army, but that doesn't matter.
We have spirit and we are fighting for our country.
Chechnya has God on her side and
the Russians have got vodka and cigarettes."
-- President Aslan Maskhadov, head of the
self-declared independent Chechen
nation.
(it's too bad our Nation no longer
"has God on her side..."
Before you dig in to that wonderful
Christmas dinner before you, take a moment
and pause to Pray for the ragged Chechen
refugees in their effort to be Free
of New World Order organizations funded
by your tax dollars.
Is your Soul satisfied/fulfilled with the trinkets
of your Master?
Not too long ago we had the Spirit of
our Lord to nourish our needs.)
The Truth can be very painful!!, but that's
no excuse for you to continue its suppression.
You will only shed your shackles after
you have endured maximum pain of shedding your
sinful behaviour which is the
price you have to pay to be truly Free.)


22.12.1999


  Gore
Pitches Universal

Preschool Plan


Wednesday December 22, 1999   4:40
  pm

  DES
MOINES, Iowa (AP) - Pitching a $50

billion plan for universal preschool, Vice

President Al Gore said today ``we're going
  to be
a better nation'' if kids get an early
  start
on learning.

  ``All
the research, and all the experience
  of
parents, has shown clearly that most

learning takes place in the first few years,''
  he
said. ``We have to do more for the
  young
kids to prepare them for better

schools.''

  Gore
spoke about his plan on ABC's
  ``Good
Morning America'' and took a few

questions from audiences in Des Moines
  and
New York.

  The
Democratic presidential candidate

recently has begun filling in some of the

details of his earlier campaign pledge to

strengthen public education and expand

preschool.

  As his
education proposals have finally
  become
more specific, Gore has stepped
  up
attacks on rival Bill Bradley for lacking
  a
comprehensive plan for the nation's

schools.

  ``I
think it's important to have a bold plan,
  and I
don't think you can nibble around the

edges,'' Gore said. ``I think it's the number
  one
investment priority.''

  He
argued that Bradley ``continues to be

fascinated'' with school vouchers and
  ``that
is a very sharp contrast to the

proposal I'm offering.''

  Gore
rejected suggestions he was

resorting to attack politics, arguing there's

nothing wrong with pointing out

differences.

  ``When
I point out these shortcomings, I
  think
that's what Democracy ought to be
  all
about,'' Gore said.

  While
that sp

Re: [CTRL] Canadian Scientist Hopes Y2K Will Shut Down Planet

1999-12-22 Thread nessie

 -Caveat Lector-

> Suzuki believes humans can have an immediate impact on the environment
by limiting consumption.


Consumerism is slavery.

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[CTRL] Fwd: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] Tales of old Shanghai - Opium (http://www.shanghai-ed.com/tales/t-opium.htm)

1999-12-22 Thread Kris Millegan





From: "Catherine Austin Fitts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Brian:

Since Bill and George are having a food fight, we can feed information out
into the market that will accelerate their foodfight and we can also provide
people a vision of what they can do to build alternatives and live safely
outside the system. That is, accelerate the implosion of the Titanic by
causing George and Bill's fight to get worse (Mike and I refer to this is
the Midianite strategy based on how Gideon's army of 300 defeated 100,000
Midianites --see the story in Judges 6-9) and use ideas like community
databanks and alternative media and voting with our money and getting off of
central utility and banking systems to start to build organized crime
resistant alternatives.

For example, on exacerbating the fight between Bill and George, it seems to
Mike---and I agree---that the real fight is over New York, Texas and Florida
being locked by the Bushes, and California being unlockable. The BONY story
and the HUD story are part of the New York food fight. Cuomo and Hillary are
central players on the Bill team. Who is the other side and how does NY
money feed into this? Anyway, a focused effort on exacerbating the fight by
leaking Cuomo dirt and role of HUD tax shelters and real estate in NY and
HUD single family fraud and money laundering and Rubin/Goldman Sachs dirt
and Hillary dirt (How about alleged M&L Business Machines secret settlement
with DOJ Public Integrity Unit to cover up Rose law firm money laundering
for Iran Contra money laundering out of Mena) and more on other
sidethese are just some ideas.

Bottom line, one thing we can do is focus our efforts on concerted actions
where our research and dissemination of stories to alternate media and our
networks is designed to create maximum Midianite squabbling.

Catherine

> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Downing Quig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 1:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CIA-DRUGS] Tales of old Shanghai - Opium
> (http://www.shanghai-ed.com/tales/t-opium.htm)
>
>
> From: Brian Downing Quig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> I learned about the ORDER OF THE SKULL AND BONES or before that
> it was called the BROTHERHOOD OF DEATH before the rest of
> the world because Anthony Sutton was a good friend of my
> publisher Johnny Johnson and they would confer on his books in
> progress  whenever Sutton was in town for a conference or to
> speak.  I had seen the preparation of TRILATERIALS OVER
> WASHINGTON with Pat Wood which was the first book that brought
> heavy repression down on Anthony.  That was years before he
> discovered the SKULL AND BONES.
>
> In may ways Anthony Sutton is the grandfather of what we are
> doing on this list.  Fletcher Prouty, Dr. Alfred McCoy and Dr.
> Peter Dale Scott of course must be mentioned.
>
> MONETARY AND ECONOMIC REVIEW was read by 100% Republican
> multi-millionaires.  It cost more than $400 for 12 monthly issues.
> My report on the intelligence community was the most popular
> column.  I had an enthusiastic following from all around the
> world.  It was not until I published THOSE WHO DISMANTLED OUR
> CONSTITUTION http://www.dcia.com/dismantl.html that I was
> confronted with a tidal wave of unbelief.  HOW COULD GEORGE
> BUSH'S ANCESTORS POSSIBLY BE THE TOP OPIUM TRADERS OF THEIR TIME
> AND WE DO NOT KNOW IT?
>
> I knew at the time that there were so many historic records by
> the harbor masters of the world's great harbors that
> documented what Linda and Mike are presenting below that it had
> to be true.  I think the bright students at YALE knew it
> also and that is wy they called George Bush Poppy Bush.
>
> If there is one thing that is a matter of consensus on this list
> it is the belief that the two highest and most visible of
> the public politicians in this nation, George Bush and Bill
> Clinton, are treasonably involved in the importation of narcotic
> drugs into their own nation.  What can be done about that?
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
> Linda Minor wrote:
>
> > http://www.shanghai-ed.com/tales/t-opium.htm
> >
> > In Shanghai, the trade prospered and huge fortunes were made, financing
> > profligate lifestyles and magnificent castles back home in Scotland
> >
> > In 1870, opium accounted for 43 percent of China's total imports, with
> > cotton goods a distant second at 28 percent. Huge hulks were
> moored off the
> > Bund to store the opium which was used in the city's opium dens
> or sent on
> > along the Yangtze River. Inevitably but gradually, the days of
> quick opium
> > profits were coming to an end. The trading house of Jardines, the Noble
> > House, had basically pulled out of the trade by 1870 due to the fierce
> > competition, and was instead pouring its drug-based fortunes into new
> > ventures such as banking, mining and railways. The anti-opium lobby,
> > meanwhile, was gaining ground and the Shanghai Municipal Council stopped
> > issuing licences for opium dens in 1907. 

[CTRL] Earth suffers disaster record in 1999-insurer

1999-12-22 Thread David Crockett Williams

 -Caveat Lector-

http://news.excite.com/news/r/991221/13/life-disasters

World suffers new disaster record in 1999-insurer

Reuters News Service
Updated 1:04 PM ET December 21, 1999

By David Crossland

FRANKFURT (Reuters) - Nature plagued the world with a record number of
disasters in 1999 but the death toll fell far short of the worst single
catastrophe of the last 1,000 years, a Chinese flood that killed 900,000 in
1887.

Munich Re, one of the world's largest reinsurers, said that about 70,000
people were killed in well over 700 disasters this year, including up to
30,000 who died in floods and mudslides in Venezuela this week.

Climatic changes such as global warming were partly to blame, but it was
impossible to say to what extent, Munich Re said.

"We have a feeling that climate changes will play an increasing role in the
future," said Gerhard Berz, head of a Munich Re research team that has been
collecting worldwide data on disasters for the last 25 years.

Economic losses resulting from catastrophes surged to $535 billion per
decade in the 1990s from $38 billion in the 1950s in price-adjusted terms,
Munich Re said.

Insurance losses have risen at almost twice that rate as worldwide insurance
cover has increased, Munich Re said.

Alongside environment changes, urban growth and growing population density
are causing the increase in catastrophe losses. A violent storm in a desert
is a natural spectacle but it becomes a disaster if it strikes a town.

MAN A BIGGER KILLER THAN NATURE

More than 15 million people died in over 100,000 natural catastrophes over
the last thousand years, with some 3.5 million deaths this century alone,
Munich Re said.

The total amounts to less than half the fatalities of World War II but
excludes the unquantifiable millions who died of drought and famine.

Munich Re has written a review of the millennium based on what it says is a
unique archive of data used by scientists, engineers and authorities all
over the world.

But contrary to the impression given by the record number of disasters and
the thousands of deaths this year, death tolls seem to be declining, Munich
Re said. Improved early warning systems and protection systems are helping.

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[CTRL] Judge: Indian fund totally mismanaged (fwd)

1999-12-22 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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December 22, 1999

Judge: Indian fund totally mismanaged

By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth said the Interior and
Treasury departments have severly mismanaged millions of dollars
in trust fund accounts for more than 300,000 American Indians.

A federal judge yesterday said the Interior and Treasury
departments so mismanaged millions of dollars in trust fund
accounts for more than 300,000 American Indians that the
government has no idea how much money is missing or where it can
be found.

 U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth said in a strongly
worded, 142-page ruling in a class-action lawsuit brought by the
Native American Rights Fund that he would personally oversee
efforts by government officials to fix the failed system.

 While Judge Lamberth ruled against lawyers for the Indian
account holders, who sought the appointment of a court-appointed
monitor, he said they had established a right to "ongoing
judicial review of trust reform efforts for the next five years —
or longer if necessary — and a role for their own continued,
close involvement in reform efforts."

 "Although plaintiffs may be dissatisfied with the court's
decision to not appoint another special master or monitor at this
time, plaintiffs should take great satisfaction in the stunning
victory they have achieved today on behalf of the 300,000-plus
Indian beneficiaries" in the trust fund accounts, he said.

 "That is enough for today. If more becomes necessary, the
court will be available," he said. "If the defendants carry out
what they now say they will do and comply with the court's order
. . . more should not be necessary. In that case, trust reform
should become a reality rather than a dream."

 Judge Lamberth said it was "entirely possible" that tens of
thousands of Indian account holders "should be receiving
different amounts of money — their own money — than they do
today."

 But, he said, government officials could not say how much
money was due, "which is the crux of the problem."

 He also said he would hold a second "minitrial" to determine
how much the Indian account holders are due because of lost
records and mismanagement.

 Eloise Pepion Cobell, head of a group that represents
account holders, said the trial is expected to begin in June and
account holders are likely to seek $10 billion in lost funds.

 The Interior Department described the judge's ruling as a
victory, saying in a statement it was "gratified that Judge
Lamberth is allowing the federal government an opportunity to
move forward and implement the Department of the Interior's plan
to manage the Indian Trust Funds."

 "We welcome the opportunity to prove that the Department of
the Interior and the Bureau of Indian Affairs, with help and the
guidance from the Congress, can move forward from almost a
century of inadequate accounting systems and antiquated record
keeping," the statement said. "We are determined to meet the
challenges and overcome obstacles that lie ahead and we welcome
the continued oversight from the court as we continue to put
plans into action."

 Native American Rights Fund lawyers said they were
"comfortable" with the judge's ruling and hopeful the government
would make efforts to correct the problems. The fund is a
Colorado-based, nonprofit legal organization that defends and
promotes the legal rights of Indians.

 "I think the judge was fair and has given the government one
last chance to correct the problem," said Mrs. Cobell, a member
of the Blackfeet tribe in Montana. "Let's see if they do it."

 Lawyer Keith Harper said he was pleased with the ruling,
calling it a "prudent, judicious approach."

 The judge ordered Interior to come up with an accurate
accounting of the trust fund accounts; to provide for the
retention of trust fund documents; and to provide adequate
staffing for trust fund management functions.

 Four months ago, he ordered the government to pay $625,000
for the failure of Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt and former
Treasury Secretary Robert E. Rubin to turn over documents sought
in the pending suit. The records had been requested by attorneys
for the Native American Rights Fund to document how payments were
made to Indian trust account holders.

 The lawyers had sought the records and other materials
involving more than 300,000 individual accounts and 2,000 tribal
accounts managed by the Interior and Treasury departments. The
departments manage money from, among other sources, land
settlements, royalties from minerals and other resources, and
companies that use Indian land.

 Interior and Treasury officials have been unable to produce
accounting records or statements to verify how much cash has been
collected. An audit by the Arthur Andersen accounting firm said
the Bureau of Indian Affairs could not account for $2.4 billion
in transactions involving the funds.

 In February, Judge Lamberth h

[CTRL] The New World Disorder

1999-12-22 Thread Tatman, Robert

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http://www.marxist.com/Theory/worldrelations.html
The New World Disorder
World Relations at the dawn of the 21st Century
"Just as the 19th century came to a close with the outbreak of the first
world war in 1914, the war that has started in Kosovo, Europe's first since
1945, marks our true entrance into the 21st century. That we should be
entering a new era in the same tragic way we did the previous one, and more
or less in the same place, is highly symbolic... The events taking place
there reflect the changing clout of the various international actors..."

"The United States is clearly the sole 'hyper power', an imbalance that
could prove damaging."

Dominique Moisi, deputy director of the Paris-based Institut Francais des
Relations Internationales writing in the Financial Times (29/3/99)

Exactly one hundred years ago Kropotkin wrote that war is the normal
condition of Europe. Yet for a long period--half a century--this dismal
prediction appeared to be contradicted by reality. In the period after the
Second World War, world capitalism experienced a strong period of growth.
This was the objective basis for the relative stability of relations between
the classes, and also between the national states in the post-war period. It
was this long period of economic upswing--together with the division of the
world between US imperialism and the USSR--which gave rise to this relative
stability in world relations. But now everything has changed.

The reason why they could get this so-called peace was because of the
balance of terror between mighty Stalinist Russia on the one hand and mighty
American imperialism on the other. The struggle between two mutually
contradictory social systems with the so-called 'cold war'.

The changing face of war

For a period of 50 years after the Second World War, there was relative
stability in world relations, based on the balance of terror between
Stalinist Russia on the one hand and American Imperialism on the other. They
divided the whole world up into what seemed to be immutable blocs and
spheres of influence. At that time there would have been no question
whatever of the Americans attacking Yugoslavia or bombing Iraq. It would
have led to war between the USA and the Soviet Union, and such a war was
ruled out for 50 years. It was impossible for the reasons that Engels
anticipated over a hundred years ago. At that time it was wrong--as the
great slaughter of 1914-18 subsequently showed. But it was right for the
last 50 years. The Cold War was the manifestation of a struggle between two
mutually contradictory social systems on a world scale. In this so-called
period of peace, the fundamental contradictions were not removed. On the
contrary. Tremendous contradictions were building up. This was revealed by
the monstrous arms race, which devoured a large part of the wealth of
society. The question is: why these contradictions did not lead to war
between America and Russia at that time?

Towards the end of his life, old Engels wrote of the development of
imperialism and militarism, which were then new phenomena. Up until the
French revolution there were never standing armies. The monarchical states
of the 18th century maintained small professional armies. The French
Revolution changed all that. Before the French Revolution, it was fairly
common for the generals of two contending armies to arrive at a gentleman's
agreement to avoid a costly battle by deciding which side had "won". War was
an expensive business! This kind of warfare was undermined, first by the
American revolutionary War of Independence, when the colonial irregulars, in
Engels' words, refused to dance the military minuet with the forces of the
English crown. But it was completely destroyed by the French revolution
which, for the first time, confronted reactionary-feudal Europe with the
spectacle of an armed revolutionary people.

Brilliant revolutionary generals like Lazare Carnot evolved entirely new
military tactics and methods, especially the leveé en masse, in effect a
mobilisation of the whole people, which carried all before it. Bismarck
learnt that from the French Revolution. As early as 1807 Hardenberg wrote to
the king of Prussia: "We must do from above what the French have done from
below." The Prussians based themselves on Carnot's idea of an armed people,
but did so in the reactionary spirit of militarism. Nevertheless, the
Prussian military machine was perfected and won a series of spectacular
victories. This enabled the conservative Junker Bismarck to carry out the
historically progressive task of German unification, but in a reactionary
way--under the domination of feudal-bureaucratic Prussia.

By the 1890s the Prussian state, always bureaucratic and militaristic in
spirit, had evolved into a vast monster, spending unprecedented sums on
armaments. The French and others naturally followed the trend. The whole of
Europe was becoming transformed into a huge armed camp. When Engels saw the

[CTRL] Feds Seize City's 60M In Funds for Homeless (fwd)

1999-12-22 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

A couple exerpts from the NY Daily News Online this morning.

Is it my imagination, or do I smell Hillary's fetid fingerprints ALL OVER
this?

http://www.mostnewyork.com/1999-12-22/News_and_Views/City_Beat/a-51190.asp

>
>
> Housing Secretary Andrew Cuomo yesterday yanked the city's
> power to spend federal funds for the homeless...
>
> The move will make New York the only city in the nation whose
> federal aid for the homeless is controlled directly by the
> Clinton administration.
>
> Cuomo — whose father is former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo —
> denied that his motives were political. But when asked about
> the Senate race, he said: "Hillary Rodham Clinton is going to
> be the next senator from New York. You heard it here first."
>


-- The above looks like it may be part of an emerging pattern of
using federal agency clout to help Hillary ...


Slate Magazine
December 18, 1999, Saturday

Creeping Rodhamism!

By: Mickey Kaus

BODY:

   Paranoid's Corner: There's a Hillary angle to the previous,
epic-length kausfiles item on the Clinton administration's
decision to promote food stamp receipt. It's this: Is the
president's new emphasis on food stamps an attempt to create an
issue for the first lady to use against New York mayor Rudolph
Giuliani, whose administration has been accused of making it too
hard to get the stamps? ... I'm not saying the White House
suddenly ordered the federal department of Health and Human
Services to champion food stamps as a way to help Hillary's
campaign. The repackaging of food stamps as "critical work
supports" (rather than welfare handouts) has been pushed for
years by influential liberal antipoverty 'advocates' such as
Wendell Primus of the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities.
Plenty of career HHS officials undoubtedly agree with Primus. But
Primus hasn't won many battles with the triangulating,
welfare-reforming White House lately. Why did the administration
suddenly now agree to give him a victory by taking a "food stamps
are good for you" line? What tipped the balance? Maybe they were
spooked by Primus' statistical calculations showing some
deterioration in the income of the bottom 10% of single parents,
even though those numbers have been looking a lot better
recently. Maybe...  If you believe that, you probably believe
it was also just a coincidence that Housing and Urban Development
secretary Andrew Cuomo's press release promoting a fairly dry
national study of the homeless happened to mention an advocacy
group's estimate "that in New York City in 1998 it cost $40,000
per year to jail someone, compared with just $12,500 to provide
affordable housing and a variety of supportive services." This
after Giuliani announced a controversial homeless policy that
involved police officers rousting homeless people, with some
going to jail. ... Michael Kelly already noted the leftward drift
of the waning Clinton administration in a recent column. Kelly
blames both Hillary's campaign and Gore's need for liberal
primary voters. But food stamps are more clearly an issue in
Hillary's race than in Gore's.


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Re: [CTRL] Anarchism: Two Kinds / Wendy McElroy

1999-12-22 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Thanks, Nessie! A very cogent explanation. Of course, where the worshippers
of the marketplace go wrong is that they define "property" in terms of
*private* property and extend the statement that "property is liberty" to
include General Motors, Bertelsmann, and Mitsubishi...which is a logical
absurdity.

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>
> > Property is theft.
>   Property is liberty.
>   Property is impossible.
>
>
>
> Proudhon is obviously talking about three different things. The word
> "property" is like the word "love." It has more than one meaning. You
> "love" your girlfriend. You "love" your mother. You "love" pizza. These
> are obviously different things. So too are the three different kinds of
> property.
>
> "Property is theft" refers to private property, i.e., a factory where
> workers toil to produce goods the owner sells back to us. We built those
> factories. They rightfully belong to us. We were robbed.
>
> "Property is liberty" refers to personal property. If the things you
> actually use, your home, your car, your tools, your toys, etc. are not
> entirely immune to confiscation and forfieture, your "liberty" is an cruel
> illusion.
>
> "Property is impossible" refers to public property. A long as the things
> we all use, the roads, the schools, the airwaves, etc. are under control
> of the state and of private capital and not of the public, public property
> is impossible.
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Re: [CTRL] The East India Company

1999-12-22 Thread Bob Stokes

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Sounds like this could be very interesting reading, but $865 for a single
hard cover book?  Maybe it's really several books, like an encyclopedia.
Published in 1998?  Must be a misprint.  Inflation is getting a little high.

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[CTRL] The Phoenix Gazette April 5, 1909

1999-12-22 Thread earthman

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Passing this on

Peter
An oldie, but goodie...

In the light of Art Bells incredible "shock" at the artifacts found in the
middle United States, let be said, as it already has been several times,
this is old news.  Take the following for example:


"According to he story related to the Gazette by Mr. Kinkaid, the
archaeologists of the Smithsonian institute, which is financing the
expeditions, have made discoveries which almost conclusively prove that
the race which inhabited this mysterious cavern, hewn in solid rock by
human hands, was of oriental origin, possibly from Egypt, tracing back
to Ramses."

The Phoenix Gazette April 5, 1909
EXPLORATIONS IN THE GRAND CANYON
Mysteries of Immense Rich Cavern Being Brought to Light
JORDAN IS ENTHUSED
REMARKABLE FINDS INDICATE ANCIENT PEOPLE MIGRATED FROM ORIENT
___

The latest news of the progress of the explorations or what is now
regarded by Scientists as not only the oldest archaeological discovery
in the United States, but one of the most valuable in the world, which
was mentioned some time ago in the Gazette, was brought to the city
yesterday by G.E. Kinkaid, the explorer who found the great underground
citadel of the Grand Canyon during a trip from Green river, Wyoming,
town the Colorado, in a wooden boat, to Yuma, several months ago.
According to he story related to the Gazette by Mr. Kinkaid, the
archaeologists of the Smithsonian institute, which is financing the
expeditions, have made discoveries which almost conclusively prove that
the race which inhabited this mysterious cavern, hewn in solid rock by
human hands, was of oriental origin, possibly from Egypt, tracing back
to Ramses. If their theories are borne out by the translation of the
tablets engraved with hieroglyphics, the mystery of the prehistoric
peoples of North America, their ancient arts, who they were and whence
they came will be solved. Egypt and the Nile, and Arizona and the
Colorado will be linked by a historical chain running back to ages,
which staggers the wildest fancy of the fictionist.

A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION

Under the direction of Professor. SA. Jordan, the Smithsonian Institute
is now prosecute-ing the most thorough explorations, which will be
continued until the last link in the chain is forged. Nearly a mile
underground, about 1480 feet below the surface, the long main passage
has been delved into, to find another mammoth chamber from which
radiates scores of passageways, like the spokes of a wheel. Several
hundred rooms have been discovered, reached by passageways running from
the main passage, one of them having been explored or 854 feet and
another 634 feet. The recent finds include articles, which have never
been known as native to this country and doubtless they had their origin
in the orient. War weapons, copper instruments, sharp - edged and hard
as steel, indicate the high state of civilisation reached by these
strange people. So interested have the scientists become that
preparations are being made to equip the camp for extensive studies, and
the force will be increased to thirty or forty persons. "Before going
further into the cavern, better facilities for lighting will have to be
installed, for the darkness is dense and quite impenetrable for the
average flashlight. In order to avoid being lost, wires are being strung
from the entrance to all passageways leading directly to large chambers.
How far this cavern extends no one can guess, but it is now the belief
of many that what has already been explored is merely the "barracks", to
use an American term, for the soldiers, and that far into the
under-world will be found the main communal dwellings of the families.
The perfect ventilation of the cavern, the steady draught that blows
through, indicates that it has another outlet to the surface.

MR. KINKAID'S REPORT

Mr. Kinkaid was the first white child born in Idaho and has been an
explorer and hunter all his life, thirty years having been in the
service of the Smithsonian Institute. Even briefly recounted, his
history sounds fabulous, almost grotesque. First, I would impress that
the cavern is nearly inaccessible. The entrance is 1,486 feet down the
sheer canyon wall. It is located on government land and no visitor will
be allowed there under penalty of trespass. The scientist's wish to work
unmolested, without fear of the archaeological discoveries being
disturbed by curio or relic hunters. A trip there would be fruitless,
and the visitor would be sent on his way. The story of how I found the
cavern has been related, but in a paragraph: I was journ-eying down the
Colorado River in a boat, alone, looking for mineral. Some forty two
miles up the river from the El Tovar Crystal canyon, I saw on the east
wall, stains in the sedimentary formation about 2,000 feet above the
river bed. There was no trail to this point, but I finally reached it
with great difficulty. Above a shelf, which hid it from view from the
river, was the mouth of the cave. T

[CTRL] Who Wants to Live Forever?

1999-12-22 Thread earthman

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From: "J. R. Molloy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

December 20, 1999
http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/oped/20groo.html

Who Wants to Live Forever?
By JEROME GROOPMAN

My grandmother lived vigorously to the age of 100. She was raised in an
impoverished shtetl in czarist Russia, arrived in America the day McKinley
was
shot, lived in a cold-water tenement, sewed garments in a crowded, filthy
sweatshop and delivered four children at home. I always assumed she carried
genes for longevity and a strong constitution. There were some in her
family,
similarly healthy and long-lived, who inherited those genes, and others,
less
blessed, who did not.

It was a matter of good fortune, and nothing fundamental could be done to
alter
the outcome. Yet as we look into the next century, we see science poised to
determine a person's life span directly, by modifying his genes. Pills would
replace parents as the key to vigorous longevity. Although providing long
and
healthy lives is a laudable goal, the consequences of this approach raise
deeply
disturbing questions.

Genes for long life were first found in fruit flies. Last month, a
breakthrough
occurred in higher animals. Mutant mice were created, through genetic
engineering, that lacked a normal cell protein called SHC. All mammals,
including human beings, have this SHC protein. The mutant mice were healthy
and
lived one third longer than their normal counterparts. Their cells were
notably
resistant to oxidants, molecules that wear down tissues the way they rust
metal.
Of course we are not mice, and the SHC protein may not have the same effects
on
oxidation in our cells. But the proof of principle is powerful. Analogous
genetic changes in people could routinely make us into centenarians.

Genetic diagnosis, though, will come before any specific treatment. People
will
learn of their natural chances to live to a certain age and their risks of
having a variety of diseases. This knowledge will make it increasingly
urgent to
create drugs to modulate the effects of genes linked to illnesses. Such
drugs
will be designed, in large part, using supercomputers that will screen
chemicals, to see which ones might work, in a virtual format before
empirical
testing in cells and animals.

The natural and steady degeneration of tissues is accelerated by disease.
Illnesses become deadly when they overwhelm the body's defenses and its
mechanisms for repair. Longevity appears to involve delaying normal aging
while
protecting against disease.

Data on centenarians published this year suggest what is needed to live past
100. Many centenarians had close relatives in their 90's and early 100's.
They
were like my grandmother, physically and mentally vigorous, and were largely
free of illness until shortly before their deaths. Their survival apparently
involved not only genes for longevity, but also genes that reduce
susceptibility
to disease.

The converse painfully makes the same point: families with genes that
predispose
them to serious illness, like the genes for breast cancer or the
hyperlipidemia
genes for heart attack and stroke, are marked by untimely deaths.

We will be faced with the difficult decision of which life-limiting genes
and
proteins to remedy first. Should we address the most prevalent killers, like
atherosclerosis, or the maladies that affect younger people, like juvenile
diabetes? Will some racial and ethnic groups be given short shrift, since
minorities often have unusual genes predisposing them to rarer disorders?
Will
diseases that happen to affect congressmen, celebrities and corporate chief
executives be favored, getting periodic infusions of money for research and
development?

No American believes that anyone should be denied the benefits of science
for
financial reasons. So, even after priorities are set, who will pay for the
longevity treatments, which probably will begin at an early age and extend
100
years or more? Certainly the drugs will be costly, but might health costs
ultimately be reduced if we can successfully delay illness and extend
productivity for five or more decades? Will the process of dying also become
less costly, since it may occur rapidly as the drugs wane in effect or are
withdrawn, in contrast to the slow, stuttering decline that is now the
expensive
norm?

Regardless of who is first in queue, and regardless of the
cost-effectiveness of
the treatments over time, only those in wealthy and prosperous nations will
have
access to them. This will make global demographics even more lopsided than
they
are now, as people in the United States and Europe live well past 100 while
Africans and Asians continue to die young, as they have for centuries.

In the industrialized world, family dynamics will change as five or more
generations know each other. The ballooning healthy population will sharply
increase global demand for food, shelter and everything else. The natural
resources and cheap labor to respond to these material needs will come from
the
d

Re: [CTRL] Christ Killer

1999-12-22 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

http://www.gettingit.com

To see the article (and some cool links and graphics):

  In reply to a post forwarded by Bob Sterling (The Konformist):

In a message dated 99-12-22 16:43:46 EST, Robalini writes:

<< Konspira-palooza

<< Christ Killer
Shooting down the Jesus myth
BY ROBERT STERLING
[ 12.20.99 ]



<< For her stunning allegations, Acharya has gathered a mountain of
evidence that would shake even the most devoted Jesus-lovers. Most
impressive is her comparison of the Jesus tale to that of earlier
savior-gods Krishna and Horus (as well as Mithras, Hercules and
Dionysus, among others.)

Here's a list of some facts on Horus alone: >>

He was born of a virgin on December 25th. His birth was announced by an
eastern star and visited by three wise men. He was a child teacher at 12
and was baptized at 30 after disappearing for 18 years (with the priest
who baptized him later decapitated). He had 12 disciples. He performed
miracles, walked on water, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus from
the dead. He was crucified between two thieves, buried three days in a
tomb, and then resurrected. He was given the titles "Messiah," "Son of
Man," the "Good Shepherd," and "Lamb of God." Oh yeah, he was also
called the "Anointed One," spelled out as "KRST." >>

NOT A SINGLE STATEMENT made above is TRUE about the Egyptian god Horus!

I've read all, or nearly all, the primary Egyptian source documents, plus
most of the later Greek commentaries on the gods of the Egyptians.  The above
is a total fabrication.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] FW: Khun Sa, Burma's heroin king

1999-12-22 Thread Kris Millegan





From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

forwarded...

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave


-Original Message-
From: Roger Bunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 10:18 AM
To: Dave
Subject: Re: Khun Sa, Burma's heroin king


Sorry for such a long posting. But this seems
to be the whole works on the narco side of what's
going on in Burma. And could be of use to you?


  __,,+,,__
  \  \  \
\  \  \

^^^\| ||\
| Opium EXPRESS   | ||','''|'''\___,
|  __ | ||__|'__|___||
['''(@)'(@)**|(@)(@)  *'(@)*



For Reference.   Relayed by Angwa House
BURMA:  DRUG WATCH(December 1999)

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Shan Herald Agency for News - 2 December 1999,  No: 12 - 1

Junta Encourages Poppy Cultivation?

Junta officers across the border are rallying for increased cultivation of
poppies in their respective areas, reported Maihoong from southern Shan
State.

On 22 November, Captain Han Sein, Commander, Company 4, IB 65 (Mongton)on
his arrival in Mong Kyawt village, Mongton Township, Monghsat District,
opposite Chiangmai Province, summoned a meeting at the village temple where
one member from each household was ordered to attend.

"He told the villagers they would be free to grow opuim, for half a viss of
opium (1.8 kg) per field as tax", said Maihoong. "For those who are short of
capital a loan of Kyat 10,000 - 30,000 would be provided".

The produce must be sold, at market price, only to Chinese or Lahu traders
who held letters of authorization from either him or Ltc. Myint Sway,
Commander, IB 65, he said. Any sale without their knowledge would be faced
with severe punishment.

"He therefore urged them to recall all the villagers who had left Mongkyawt
since 1994, when Khun Sa's troops attacked the Burmese garrison there", said
Maihoong.

Afterwards, Capt. Han Sein and his 50-odd troops set out to visit other
villages in the surrounding areas until 26 November before returning to
Mongton.

According to the junta's own statistics, altogether 101,845 acres of land
were cultivated last year for opium under official supervision. (Opium
Acreage, S.H.A.N. 25 November).

'

Shan Herald Agency for News - 2 December 1999,   No: 12 - 2

Chinese and Kokang Flocking To the Thai Border

Wa, Chinese and Kokang settlers are coming to the border areas opposite
Thailand in droves, said an informed source who recently returned from
Kengtung, the capital of eastern Shan State.

"Altogether 15,000 settlers are due to arrive in Mongyawn and Mongmai
(formerly Banhoong) from the beginning of December to mid-December from the
north", said the source who requested anonymity. "Some of them will resettle
in Mongtoom and Monggarn, opposite Ban Hintack, Mae Faluang District,
Chiangrai Province".

Although 7,000 of them are registered as Kokang and the rest as Wa, the
majority is believed to be Yunnanese Chinese, he said.

Another batch of 50,000 settlers is expected to travel to the area during
the next year.


It was reported earlier by S.H.A.N. that the Wa leadership in Pangsang had
applied to the military government in Rangoon for the inclusion of Mongton
and Monghsat townships in the "Wa Autonomous Region". (Big Power Play in the
Wa Region, 20 August 1999) "Another reason for the exodus", said the source,
"is the UN's drug program in the Wa areas along the Chinese border. As it is
becoming difficult for the people to grow poppies in the north, many have
opted to move are moving out to friendlier areas".

The overall poppy cultivation, and output, therefore, would not change much,
he added.


'

Shan Herald Agency for News - 8 December 1999,No: 12 - 7

Ex-MTA Can Deal In Drugs: Junta Commander

A high commander in the Shan State had recently told the ex-MTA officers, in
effect, that they would be officially permitted to engage in the drug
business, reported SNA from Kengtung.

According to an unconfirmed report, on 20-21 November, an ad hoc meeting was
called by Maj-Gen Maung Bo "Rambo", Commander of the Eastern Command, in
Taunggyi where ex-prominent leaders from Khun Sa's Mong Tai Army like
Mahaja, Khun Aung Htoon, Sao Zarmmai and Sao Khwanmong attended.

"He was unusually cordial to the Shan dignitaries whom he used to mistreat",
said the source to SNA. "He had probably received some new instruction from
his Rangoon bosses".

According to SNA's source, Maung Bo told his rather pleasantly surprised
audience that: First, any business investment they would like to make, he
would be happy to receive direct applications from them;  Two; any business
venture that might bring them swift prosperity 

[CTRL] re Paranormal Experiences

1999-12-22 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

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-Original Message-
From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 2:33 PM
Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Dr. X's Files: Paranormal Phenomena...or "Miracles".


>Dear Centre For The Scientific Investigation of the Paranormal:
>
> Further to the invitation on your web site to "ask the answer man", let me
ask a few questions to help you and The Wizard (JR) adjust to (scientific)
reality:
>
>It is very scientific to give definitions, don't you agree? Now, JR
thinks that this is just "semantics" but any bona fide scientist is very
careful about definitions. Let us define phenomena considered to be
"paranormal" and then ask if such phenomena happen in reality.
>
>What if something (anything) can be both here and there at the same time?
Sometimes the term "bi-location" is used. I think there are anecdotes of
Padre Pio being seen at two places at the same time.
>I'm not going to deal with whether this particular case is valid or not. I
just present it as an example of what you might deal with in field
observations of X Files. Bi-location is a paranormal phenomenon. Do you have
any sound reason for saying that a large object which allegedly bi-locates
fits the definition of a paranormal phenomena to be proved or disproved
while a small object which bilocates is not a paranormal phenomenon?
>   Obviously the reason I mention this is that quantum effects include
bi-location as in the Two Slit Experiment. See
http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology.htm Chapter 10,
"Robotwilightzone". The standard interpretation of this experiment by (very
scientific) physicists is that when the second slit is opened the SAME
particle acts as if it is going through both slits at the same time. If it
is not both here and there at the same time, what then is another
explanation for the results?
>Furthermore, do you know any reason why such quantum effects could not
occur with larger physical units? For example at
http://www.quantum.univie.ac.at/research/c60 we are told about laboratory
demonstrated quantum effects with molecules. At the theory level, the Oxford
Centre for Quantum Computation, http://www.qubit.org/ talks about a
"...Multiverse, which contains many universes like ours, interacting through
quantum interference". (By the way, I think the "Spooky Agent" Fox Mulder
from TV X Files was said to have been educated in psych/parapsych at
Oxford).
>
>Now I can go on to other paranormal phenomena to help cure your "adjustment
disorder" but I want to see if you can accept reasoning with this one
example before I waste my time. You will be much better off if you accept
the scientific realities of this world. I refer to James Randi's "naive
rationalism" and pseudo-science repeatedly in Machine Psychology. He is
prejudiced, ie he pre-judges what can and cannot happen in nature...and that
is NOT SOUND SCIENCE. When I  designed and taught SS205, Parapsychology, at
Douglas College I presented it as the scientific investigation of the
paranormal. I didn't have a prejudice for or against any alleged paranormal
phenomenon. What I taught first was that there are many mysteries in nature,
mysteries which will expectedly go on without known limit. We then let
nature tell us what is and is not reality. By the way, when Life Gazette was
a tabloid, I wrote under the pen name of Dr. X and that was years before the
TV X Files so I can lay claim to my own X Files. These X Files may help you
to deal with scientific reality but first you need an "attitude adjustment".
The attitude required is one of honest acceptance of what reality tells you
reality is. Are you willing to make such a "leap of faith" beyond your
present dogmatic naive rationalism?
>Sincerely-FWP.
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Re: [CTRL] GOP senator vows to block Clinton picks

1999-12-22 Thread Damian B. Cooper

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At 12:07 PM 12/22/99 EST, "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>

>
>So what's new.  The Republicans have been doing this for the past seven
>years.  If they can't appoint the people, they'll keep the people from being
>appointed.

The Republicans are not known for their originality.  They merely learned this
from past Democratic regimes, and finally got enough sense to grasp that
politics, as practiced by the Party of Henry Waxman, Tom Lantos,
and Henry B. Gonzales is full contact, kick for the groin street warfare.

If the Republicans had any conviction, they would not only hold up ALL remaining
Clinton nominees, they would immediately convene NEW impeachment hearings
that the majority of voters now support, as indicated by the Zogby poll.

Then, in addition to impeaching Clinton again, they should ALSO start impeaching
and removing sitting judges appointed by Clinton.



> Inhofe is a notorious idiot anyway.  Prudy
>

More vicious, hateful personal attacks.  Undoubtedly, learned at the knee
of Saul Alinskey, Hillary Rodham, and the rest of the neo-Bolshevik claque.

DBC

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Re: [CTRL] Zipped File-Report To Pres. And Congress Re:Terrorism and ...

1999-12-22 Thread William Shannon

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You could try http://www.rand.org/organization/nsrd/terrpanel/terror.pdf
or...http://jya.com/crypto.htm...the latter is likely the better choice...

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Re: [CTRL] GOP senator vows to block Clinton picks

1999-12-22 Thread Xena - Warrior Princess

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On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Damian B. Cooper wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> At 12:07 PM 12/22/99 EST, "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Inhofe is a notorious idiot anyway.  Prudy
> >
>
> More vicious, hateful personal attacks.  Undoubtedly, learned at the knee
> of Saul Alinskey, Hillary Rodham, and the rest of the neo-Bolshevik claque.

this, of course, is not a personal attack.

ObConspiracy:

AP articles seem to support the widespread flu outbreak in southern CA,
though they don't mention the chemtrails spotted beforehand.  Does anyone
have any stats on flu in northern CA, adjusted for the winter season, of
course?

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[CTRL] NBC To Zionist Blackmailers-"Piss Off"

1999-12-22 Thread William Shannon

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Tuesday December 21 04:26 PM EST

NBC Flip-Flops on "Saturday Night Live"
Seems like NBC's got this whole holiday thing backwards--in what should be
the season of giving, the Peacock network is taking back its holiday gift to
the Anti-Defamation League.
Just last week, a network executive promised the ADL that NBC would remove a
controversial skit from the December 4 Saturday Night Live for any future
airings of the episode.

The ADL, a group that has been fighting anti-Semitism since 1913, had
complained that "And So This Is Hanukkah" sketch, featuring parodies of pop
stars singing holiday songs, was offensive. The group particulary fumed over
a mock Britney Spears singing that Christians have forgiven Jews for "having
killed our Lord." ADL national director Abraham Foxman wrote a letter to the
network saying the skit's gags "represented anti-Semitic stereotypes at their
worst." He called SNL's "lame attempt" at humor "unacceptable."

That prompted NBC's Rosalyn Weinman to write Foxman back with the promise
that the "problematic" skit would be cut from reruns. (SNL executive producer
Lorne Michaels, however, reportedly did not go along with Weinman, and said
the decision to excise the sketch was "still under discussion.")

But after the news broke that the bit would be edited out, some SNL viewers
called in to say they weren't really offended. So Weinman, the network's vice
president of broadcast standards, issued a statement Monday saying she had
changed her mind. "We have reviewed the viewer response to the 'And So This
Is Hanukkah' sketch and have decided that it will air again unedited.

"Today's environment makes our judgment calls in these situations
increasingly difficult because we must find a balance between being
politically correct and being funny in a non-hurtful way."

Weinman says the decision to do a 180 was hers and hers alone.

For his part, Foxman was saddened by NBC's about-face. "We find selected
portions of the skit offensive and not funny...We, too, have heard from
viewers, most of whom are avid SNL fans, who, nevertheless, believed a fine
line was crossed."

The SNL incident is the second time in a month that NBC has waffled over
content matter. Earlier this season, the network decided to delete the word
"tamale" from an already-filmed episode of Will & Grace after Hispanic groups
objected to its use in a scene between a white woman and her Latina
housekeeper.

When the episode was repeated a few weeks ago, "tamale" was edited back into
the dialogue.

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[CTRL] Israel Mutilates 20 Children...Shrugs.

1999-12-22 Thread William Shannon

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Thursday December 16 2:51 PM ET

20 Kids Wounded in Israeli Shelling

By AHMED MANTASH Associated Press Writer

ARAB SALIM, Lebanon (AP) - Shells fired by an Israeli-allied militia
exploded
at an elementary school in southern Lebanon on Thursday, wounding 20
children
and sending hundreds scurrying for cover.

Israel apologized for the casualties.

One of the three shells struck a wall around the school, shattering windows
and littering classrooms with debris and broken glass. Small pieces of human
flesh were spattered on a desk and blood stained the walls. Desks and chairs
were overturned by fleeing pupils.

``The class immediately broke up in panic amid the screams of the wounded
and the frightened,'' said geography teacher Mohammed Farhat, who was
instructing students about the continents when the first two shells landed
near the school in the village of Arab Salim.

The attack heightened tensions on the last active Arab-Israeli war front a
day after Syria and Israel, the key players in Lebanon, resumed negotiations
in Washington. The talks are expected to increase the chances of a peaceful
solution for southern Lebanon.

While Hezbollah officials in the south threatened to retaliate - they have
in the past fired rockets on northern Israel - their leader said he will
hold his fire this time but warned patience has run out.

``This deserved the shelling of Zionist (Israeli) settlements by the Islamic
resistance,'' said Sheik Hassan Nasrallah. ``But we will not take such
measures but we reserve the right to retaliate and we say, `Our patience
has run out.'''

Lebanese security officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said a
120mm mortar shell hit a wall outside the third and fourth grade classrooms
on the school's ground floor. Two other shells fell in a nearby bush. The
school faces a military outpost manned by Israeli and allied militiamen on
the opposite side of the valley.

Twenty students, aged 9 to 15, were wounded by shrapnel, said the officials,
who spoke on condition of anonymity. The children were taken to a hospital
in Nabatiyeh, four miles away. At least three were in serious condition
with wounds to their heads and faces, the officials said. Others suffered
cuts from shrapnel and glass shards.

The remaining 400 students were shepherded by teachers to sandbagged rooms
that are used as shelters and later sent home.

In the northern Israeli town of Kiryat Shemonah, underground shelters were
opened as a precaution against possible reprisal attacks and parents were
asked to pick up their children from school.

The Israeli military said its allied South Lebanon Army militia shelled
the village after its outposts came under guerrilla attack Thursday morning
from a residential area of Arab Salim.

``The Israel Defense Forces have no intention of causing escalation in
south Lebanon,'' said a statement by the Israeli military. ``The injury
to the civilians was caused accidentally. The IDF expresses regret over
the injury of civilians.''

In the past, Israeli warplanes and artillery have pounded suspected
guerrilla bases in a valley near Arab Salim.

The three-story school has been hit four times before, most recently in
May. The school's only other casualties came in 1991, when seven students
were wounded by shelling.

``We heard the shelling but we did not care. This is part of our daily
life in the south,'' Ali Yussef Ibrahim, 11, who suffered shrapnel wounds,
said at a hospital in Nabatiyeh.

President Emile Lahoud said the attack threatened to undermine the Middle
East peace efforts, his office said. Prime Minister Salim Hoss called on
a multinational committee monitoring combat in southern Lebanon to convene
to discuss Israel's ``criminal aggression'' against civilians. The committee
of American, French, Lebanese, Israeli and Syrian representatives has sought
in the past to contain hostilities.

The Israeli military's statement said the committee will meet Friday in
special session to discuss the attack on the school.

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[CTRL] The False Paragon

1999-12-22 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From
http://www.antiwar.com/goldstein/pf/p-g122299.html

{{}}
Airstrip One
by Emmanuel Goldstein
Antiwar.com
December 22, 1999
What is Blair Really Like?
A Corrupt, Bloodthirsty, Third World Tyrant

THE FALSE PARAGON
Tony Blair is portrayed by many as the paragon of all that is virtuous in the
New World Order. Despite the strong moral purpose that seems tattooed on his
forehead, Mr. Blair’s real character is somewhat different. The perception of
virtue is another element of the frantic bloodthirstiness that seems the raison
d’être of this deracinated Socialist regime.

BLOOD LUST
The lack of concern for Iraqi victims of genocide and the election oriented
blood lust is all of a piece to a man for whom murder is just another vote
winner. He tells Catholic audiences that he regards abortion as an abhorrent
act of murder, yet he has always voted to extend the availability of abortion.
Now it is possible to believe that abortion is sadly necessary or that it is
not murder. Nevertheless, to claim that it is unnecessary and murderous and
still vote for it repeatedly shows certain hypocrisy surprising in so publicly
religious a man. The reason for this strange behaviour is the knowledge that
advancement is harder in the feminist dominated Labour Party. Advancement is
still possible, as Mr. Blair’s predecessor as Labour leader, John Smith, showed
by consistently voting Pro-Life. Another sign of this man’s murderous
tendencies us the unfolding scandal of involuntary euthanasia in our state run
National Health Service. While we (rightly) deplore the Chinese one child
policy, our disposal of "useless mouths" is swept under the carpet. Our senior
citizens are obviously more like Iraqis than Albanians in Mr. Blair’s Manichean
worldview. The man responsible for this genocidal policy, Frank Dobson, is not
taken to the dank gaol cell where he belongs, but is instead promoted
energetically and illegally as Tony Blair’s candidate for London mayor. Just
remember this fact when you next hear him talking of another country’s
atrocities.

THE COMMIE LOVER
For a man who leans on America so much, Mr. Blair had a strange hatred of it.
Three of his main lieutenants, Peter Mandelson, Charlie Whelan and Jack Straw
where either members of the communist party, or very closely allied to it. Tony
Blair himself was a member of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, which was
run by and for the British Communist Party. The leap to Europhilia is not so
hard to understand when bearing in mind that with Moscow gone Brussels is the
new foreign power to betray your country to.

THE RAW EXERCISE OF POWER
Mr. Blair is fond of power, and contemptuous of opposition. The use of FBI
files and the Waco massacre would find approval with Mr. Blair. He has his own
pending Watergate in his treatment of Michael Ashcroft, the man keeping the
dissident Conservatives afloat, now that Mr. Blair has been successful in
scaring off many of its other backers. It is now becoming clear that the
Government has selectively leaked a mass of documents to the friendly Murdoch-
owned press to smear this man. If they have not hacked the opposition party’s
bank accounts, they definitely provided the bank transactions through the Times
(which they got through money laundering regulations). The Government has made
sustained attempts to deny this man his vote and his right to donate money. It
is also clear that the Labour Party had offered him the opportunity to switch
sides, in return for which he would be ennobled. To Michael Ashcroft’s credit,
he stuck with his convictions.

SNOUTS AT THE TROUGH
Other rich men are more easily bought than Mr. Ashcroft is. Take David
Sainsbury, the former patron of the small centre-right Social Democratic Party.
In return for a ministerial post (minister for science), an about turn on
Genetically Modified Foods (in which he is the largest single investor) and a
Peerage, he gave two million pounds ($3 million) a year to Labour Party funds.
Surely, the media will protest? Well no, because the state owned broadcaster,
the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC – Broadcasting By Coercion), has just
appointed Greg Dyke. Mr. Dyke is not only Mr. Blair’s former next door
neighbour, but has also admitted to giving Mr. Blair personally $8,000 just
before he became leader of the Labour Party, and giving the Labour Party ten
times as much. It seems that Slobodan Milosovic has a lot to learn.

ANOTHER PLANET
What about Mr. Blair’s pathological propensity to lie? Well this is also true
to form. I can not do any better than the leader of the dissident Conservative
Party, William Hague in Parliament:
"The Prime Minister finds it difficult to tell the truth about many matters,
however trivial. Three years ago, he confided to Des O'Connor that when he was
14, he stowed away on a plane from Newcastle to the Bahamas. In Newcastle
airport's 61-year history, there has never been a flight to the Bahamas. In
1969, the only exotic destinations served

[CTRL] Pollard

1999-12-22 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/Dec1999/122199/pollard122199.htm

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Clinton considering pardon for Pollard
Tuesday, December 21, 1999
By Ben Anderson
CNS Staff Writer
Senior Clinton Administration officials met recently with an Israeli military
attorney who traveled to Washington to negotiate the release of convicted spy
Jonathan Pollard.

Israel's Defense Ministry attorney Moshe Kochnovsky, who serves as deputy
director of special affairs, reportedly met with White House officials to
discuss a possible presidential pardon for Pollard despite uniform
recommendations against his release from throughout the Administration.
Pollard is serving a life sentence for releasing classified information to the
Israeli government in the mid-1980s when he served as a civilian intelligence
analyst for the US Navy.

In 1986, Pollard confessed to spying for the Israeli government. He was
convicted of giving away intelligence information revealing diplomatic
communication codes and detailing data the United States kept on Soviet Union
missile sites.

As a civilian employee of the U.S. Naval Investigative Service, Pollard
supplied Israel with 360 cubic feet of classified documents. The federal
attorney who prosecuted Pollard, Joseph diGenova, said in a prior interview
that Pollard's actions put "tens of thousands of American lives at risk."
Kochnovsky was recently appointed by Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak to
manage the Pollard case between the U.S. and Israel.

When Barak and President Bill Clinton met in July, the two agreed to negotiate
the terms in more private manners rather than opening the issue to public
scrutiny which have soured previous attempts.

During a turn of events during the October 1998 Middle East peace talks in
Maryland, then Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu raised the possibility
of Pollard's release as a condition of signing the peace agreement. That effort
to secure his released was foiled when word of the negotiations were leaked to
the press.

A report in the Ha'aretz, an Israeli newspaper, suggests that Clinton may use
Pollard's release as a final bargaining tool in the Israel-Syria peace talks.

If Clinton grants Pollard a pardon, he would do so over the objections of every
cabinet member whose advice he sought in the matter. Such a move would also
come when First Lady Hillary Clinton has been under increasing pressure from
various New York Jewish delegations that she support Pollard's release.

Last year, Clinton sought the advice of four cabinet members, giving them a
January 18, 1999 deadline to make their recommendations on Pollard's case.
Attorney General Janet Reno, Secretary of State Madeline Albright and Defense
Secretary William Cohen each recommended Pollard continue serving his life
sentence. CIA Director George Tennet reportedly threatened to resign if Clinton
released the confessed spy.

In addition to the opposition Pollard faces from Clinton's cabinet members, he
also faces growing opposition from members of Congress. In January, 14
Democrats and 44 Republican Senators signed a bi-partisan letter to the
President expressing disapproval of any effort to pardon Pollard. One week
later, Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI) introduced a sense of Congress Resolution calling
on Clinton not to abandon any clemency considerations.

In August, New York state Assemblyman Dov Hikind, pushing for Pollard's
release, called on Mrs. Clinton to use her status and clout to persuade the
President to grant Pollard clemency. Hikind said that Pollard's case would
become a serious issue in the campaign.


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[CTRL] Remains of the Day

1999-12-22 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From
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INSIGHT Alert!
12/20/99 - The FBI’s top brass is hoping no one will notice much — after all
the American media are notoriously slothful in following up on stories. And
with any luck Christmas celebrations will so befuddle reporters that none of
them will remember to ask about those mass narco-graves in Mexico that the
bureau was making so much of a few weeks back. The bureau is praying they will
just assume that the 100 or so corpses, with half-a-dozen Americans supposedly
among them, must have been unearthed.

In fact, only nine bodies have been recovered, and there are unlikely to be any
more, say sources in U.S. law-enforcement agencies and at the White House. It
now appears that the FBI was fed a fast one by its original “narco-grave”
informant, a double-crossing Mexican federal cop who was on the run from the
Juarez drug cartel and desperately in need of securing sanctuary north of the
border, according to Insight’s sources.

So far the Mexican government has held off adding to the bureau’s misery by
highlighting its embarrassment. On Dec. 17, 1999, Mexico’s attorney general did
confirm to the Los Angeles Times that the sweeping investigation of suspected
mass graves containing victims of Juarez drug traffickers now is expected to
yield far fewer bodies than originally reported. While characterizing the
initial claim of more than a hundred bodies “an error,” Jorge Madrazo Cuellar
went easy on the bureau by opining that there may be “a few more,” but he
declined to give an estimate of how many.

Sources in Washington say that nine is likely to be the final tally — with not
one dead American among them. In short, the unprecedented three-week-long
operation involving scores of white-frocked FBI forensic experts and hundreds
of masked Mexican police and soldiers descending on ranches close to the border
city of Juarez is “one big crock.”

When the joint dig got under way on Nov. 29, 1999, it was described by U.S.
authorities as a model of U.S.-Mexican cooperation in fighting the drug
cartels. It now turns out that behind the scenes the Mexicans were doubtful of
the informant’s claims but were pressured by Washington after the FBI insisted
there could be Americans buried down there.

How come the bureau made such a mistake? One excuse being put out is that
agents just assumed that the graves would contain the bulk of the 200 or so
people who have been reported missing in recent years from the border city. But
U.S. law-enforcement sources involved in the operation say the informant
overstated the number of dead on purpose in his bid to get placed in the
American witness-protection program. They also say there are grounds to believe
that the informant was in some way involved in the murders of the victims who
actually have been recovered.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Insurance

1999-12-22 Thread Kris Millegan





From: "Catherine Austin Fitts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have finally decided to write up a summary of what I know that could help
us get the Midianite squabble in NY into something that would help punch a
whole in the Shadow Government dam. While I work on it through the holidays,
I am posting up my plan as isurance. Here is my off the cuff title.

NEW YORK SENATORIAL WARFARE…..a  opportunity for us members of the CIA-Drug
list to punch a whole in the Shadow Government dam?

Andrew Cuomo, Mario Cuomo, Hillary, Bill, Gulliani, D'Amato, the Tishes, the
Millsteins, Continental Wingate, Boston-Financial, BONY, Dick Ravitch & the
AFL-CIO, all the Wall Street law firms and investment bank partners with HUD
tax shelter liability, not to mention Jack Kemp, Frank Keating and some
other Midianites who have done time within three miles of Time's Square, the
Rockefeller Foundation and LISC and other not for profits who make the game
go for MDC, AIMCO, Harvard Endowment, Winokaur Investments and various other
folks who can access the stock market, manipulation of mortgage insurance,
mortgages, properties for financial fraud and money laundering, how it fits
with the S&L's and what a map of the Piping Rock Club and other wasp mafia
havens and golf courses in Locust Valley and the Hamptons teaches you about
how the money works at HUD and how the New York Fed (the real power in the
system) can't not know.

I have recorded six cassettes of my recollection of working in the Bush
administration. If any of you would like copies send me your name and
address and I will send those as well. Useful for a piece of the financial
fraud I saw that connects to Iran Contra. I have to do the same for what I
saw on the S&L's and BCCI and later HUD fraud.

If I do get whacked before I get this posted (my key man insurance physical
person just pulled a no show on our appointment today...not a good
sign).here are the people you want to look deep at to make some money
off of the event, not to mention the fun we could have. Just be advised that
all roads will lead back to Iran Contra and Mena, Arkansas though we may
start and stop in HUD and New York:

Frank Keating, Governor of Oklahoma
Andrew Cuomo, Secretary of HUD
His inlaw, formerly activing on the House Housing Subcommittee, Joe Kennedy
Howard Glasser, Deputy General Counsel of HUD
Dick Ravitch, Chairman, AFL-CIO Housing Trust
Lee Redick, Head, Public Integrity Unit, DOJ
Jerry Constandine, CEO, AIMCO, Denver
All large asset management contractors...single family and multifamily, HUD
Howard Millstein
Millstin and Tisch Family holdings in NY
All HUD taxshelters owned by Sullivan & Cromwell, Cravath, Cahill, Skadden,
Whachtel and Cleary partners.
Bob Rubin and Goldman Sachs
BlackRock/PNC
Larry Maezel(/), CEO MDC, Denver
Leonard Millman, Denver
NYHDC and Housing Authority money flows and properties and financing of
private owners
LISC and other NY not-for profits funded by Rockefeller and/or buying up
liquidated HUD properties from AIMCO
  now that the tax liabilities and criminal liabilities have been washed by
AIMCO/CUOMO
Roderick Heller III, former CEO NHP, former partner Wilmer Cutler and
Pickering
Pug Winokaur, Winokaur Investments, former VP of Penn Central
Mike Eisensohn, Harvard Endowment and Harvard Management and related
investment vehicles.
Jack Kemp (formerly of Buffalo)
Scott Reed (Kemp'former chief of staff and former Dole campaign manager)
Al DelliBovi (D'amato team; head of NY Federal Home Loan Bank)
Scott Nordheimer, The Noah Group
Gene Ford, DC and Michigan Developer
Conrad Egan, National Housing Conference
National Association of Homebuilders/Kent Colton
Randy Hawthorne, Boston Financial Group
Patrick Dober, former National MultiHousing Group
Nicholas F. Brady, Former Chairman of Dillon Read & Secretary of Treasury,
US Senator
Peter Flanigan, former partner of Dillon Read, former Special Assistant to
Nixon
Lloyd Cutler, Wilmer Culter and Pickering
Andrew Farkas, former CEO, Insignia
Sales of DRG and other Coinsurance portfolios to AIMCO via DOJ settlements
Alleged secret settlement between Millman, Maezel, Norman Brownstein and the
DOJ regarding Mena money laundering on M& L Business Machines out of Denver.

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[CTRL] Polly Klass And Lady Di-Masonic Connection.

1999-12-22 Thread William Shannon

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Mary Ann (Polly) Nichols and Princess Diana
Mary Ann (Polly) Nichols and Princess Diana The Full Moon of Virgo will occur
this evening. For clandestine Luciferian Masons (CLuMs) the zodiac sign of
Virgo (the virgin) is important for women in general, in their states of
young girl, mother, and old woman. In many cases human sacrifices of women
are carried out by CLuMs during this zodiac sign.

This was the case with the death of Princess Diana who was killed by CLuMs on
August 31, 1997, just before the New Moon of Virgo (9/1/97). CLuM human
sacrifices are also sometimes synchronized with the New Moon, or the Full
Moon, according to the sacrificial timetable of the Temple of Solomon, the
central object of Masonic mythology.

As far as the French police investigation itself is concerned, the fact that
they have not publicly identified the white Fiat that collided with Diana's
car shows that they are unable or unwilling to conduct a thorough inquiry, no
matter how many "millions of dollars" they have spent.

Diana's death occurred 109 years to the day after the first murder attributed
to the CLuM serial killer Jack the Ripper. The number 109 contains the digits
of 19, a reminder of the 19-year Metonic cycle of the moon, another regulator
of CLuM outrages. The Ripper's first victim was Mary Ann (Polly) Nichols,
killed on August 31, 1888.

It is a little known fact, but the name "Polly" is a variant of the name
"Mary" (see the note at the end of this article for a reference on this). The
combinations "Mary Ann", or "Marianne", or "Pollyanna", etc., are common
because St. Anne was the mother of the Blessed Virgin Mary: "Mary Ann" simply
means "Mary, daughter of Anne".

As CLuM luck would have it, on October 1, 1993, a young girl named Polly
Klaas was abducted from her house in Petaluma, CA, and killed. It is a little
known fact, but Polly's full name was Polly Hannah Klaas. "Klaas", of course,
is the Dutch version of "Nicholas". Therefore, Jack the Ripper's first
victim, Mary Ann (Polly) Nichols, had the same name form as Polly Hannah
Klaas, or "Mary Ann Nicholas". Moreover, as CLuM luck would have it, Polly
Klaas' mother is named Eve Nichol.

Petaluma, CA, is located in Sonoma County, just north of San Francisco Bay.
"SONoMA" is a Baconian cypher for "Mason". "San Francisco Bay" is an anagram
for "Say Francis Bacon", a reminder of the very important CLuM Sir Francis
Bacon, the author of "The New Atlantis" and one of the real authors of the
Shakespearean works. Another landmark near Petaluma is the Jack London State
Historical Park, a reminder of JACK the Ripper, the CLuM serial killer active
in LONDON.

Polly Hannah Klaas' murder happened on the day after the Full Moon of the
Blue Moon of September 1993. That Blue Moon had marked the signing of the
first accord between the Zionist entity, the so-called State of Israel, and
the PLO. This event had taken place on the 13th day of September 1993 at the
White House. It seems that poor Polly Klaas, "America's child", was chosen as
a sacrificial victim for the success of that CLuM agreement on behalf of New
Atlantis.

The Polly Hannah Klaas case began to be "solved" by the police two Full Moons
later on November 28, 1993, when a woman named Dana Jaffe called them and
said that some items related to Polly had been found on her property on
Pythian Road. "Pythian" is one of the names of Apollo, the sun god, a
Greco-Roman version of Lucifer/Satan. "Pythian" refers to the Python, a large
snake, or dragon, that Apollo had slain at Delphi, according to Greek
mythology. "Pythia", of course, was also the title of the woman fortune
teller of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi.

The name "Dana Jaffe" is also very significant. The main Masonic hero, Hiram
Abiff, was a "son of a widow", a woman of the tribe of Naphtali (Kings 7:14),
or the tribe of Dan (2 Chronicles 2:14). The tribe of Dan had settled two
areas of Canaan: one at the northern border and another along the coast,
where the cities of Jaffa (Joppa) and Tel Aviv are. Therefore, the CLuM
meaning of "Dana Jaffe" is "a woman of the tribe of Dan from the Jaffa area".
(Remember, also, the case of "Dana" Plato.)

Eventually a "usual suspect", the career criminal Richard Allen Davis, was
charged with Polly's murder and sentenced to death in 1996. "Davis", of
course, means "a descendant of David", keeping things tightly in the family
of Mary and Anne, who were also descendants of King David, according to the
Bible.

In case you are still wondering about the origin of the English name Polly,
here is a URL address:

http://www.p arenthoodweb.com/parent_cfmfiles/babynames.cfm

It states that "Polly" is derived from "Molly", which is another form of
"Mary". The consonant changes are not unusual for baby-talk, or the Celtic
languages (the original languages of the British Isles). That is why Mary Ann
Nichols, the first Jack the Ripper victim, was also known as Polly Nichols.

"Polly Hannah Klaas" is indeed equivalent t

[CTRL] Freerepublic [Top 5 website] is Down

1999-12-22 Thread Gavin Phillips

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We have been unable to access the Free Republic website
at http://freerepublic.com since early yesterday afternoon, Pacific Standard Time, 
Dec. 21.

Anyone with information as to the reason it's down, alternate website locations for 
Free Republic, status on the safety and well-being of Jim Robinson, etc., please post 
bulletins in any or all of these newsgroups.

If the situation warrants, we will open up a temporary
web site to carry the information posted on USENET until
Free Republic comes back on line.

We are hoping and praying that Free Republic has not been forced off the Internet by 
Executive diktat or other unconstitutional action.

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Re: [CTRL] Freerepublic [Top 5 website] is Down

1999-12-22 Thread William Shannon

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In a message dated 12/22/99 7:01:15 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

<< Anyone with information as to the reason it's down, alternate website
locations for Free Republic, status on the safety and well-being of Jim
Robinson >>

Ummm, perhaps he tried to overload his tiny memory with spurious information
and crashed his (abnormally) undersized hard drive...
Really, c'mon...a fantatic's server is down, or he needs to visit his
(overprotective) mother for the holidays and all of a sudden it's a
CONSPIRACY???
Good GAWD y'all...I understand a bit o' paranoia...but C'MON!!

Bill

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[CTRL] Most Americans Oppose Panama Canal Turnover, Fear Chinese Control

1999-12-22 Thread Bill Richer

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Peace at any cost is a prelude to war!

Poll: Most Americans Oppose Panama Canal Turnover, Fear Chinese Control
NewsMax.com
December 22, 1999

Most Americans oppose the transfer of the Panama Canal, officially slated for
Dec. 31, and fear Chinese influence over the strategic waterway.
In a NewsMax.com/Zogby International poll released today, nearly 50 percent
of Americans polled oppose the turnover of the Panama Canal to the Panamanian
government. Only 29 percent of respondents thought turning the canal over to
the government of Panama was a good idea.

The NewsMax.com/Zogby poll also found that Americans are deeply worried that
a Chinese-controlled company, Hutchison Whampoa, will control and operate the
canal and its facilities.

A majority, 58 percent, agreed that Hutchison Whampoa's influence over the
canal "threatens U.S. national security."

The survey — which sampled the opinions of 1,005 registered voters last week
— indicated Americans are far more concerned about the Panama Canal than
official Washington or the media pretend to be.

Administration officials, however, may have quietly done their own polling
and also discovered voters are not so happy about the canal transfer.

When Panamanian and U.S. officials held a ceremony on Dec. 14 in Panama
marking the turnover, Panamanian officials openly expressed disappointment
that no ranking American official — President Clinton, Vice President Al
Gore, Madeleine Albright, or any Cabinet member for that matter — bothered to
show.

Former President Jimmy Carter, who shepherded the 1977 treaty that led to the
transfer of the canal, led the U.S. delegation to the ceremony.

Critics of the transfer have cited increasing concerns about the military
dangers posed by the American withdrawal. Panamanian polls show that the
citizens there wish the United States had not withdrawn, and have voiced
concerns that Marxist guerrillas in Colombia, backed by Cuba and China, have
been making incursions into Panama's southern provinces. Panama has no
standing army.

American groups have also expressed fears that Hutchison Whampoa, a company
with close ties to China's military and intelligence agencies, will have de
facto control of the canal.

Adm. Thomas Moorer, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has
testified before Congress that by turning over the canal, the United States
may lose critical time in deploying forces if war erupts in Korea, Taiwan or
elsewhere in the world.

Howard Phillips, chairman of the Conservative Caucus, a group that has been
spearheading efforts to maintain U.S. control of the canal, said that it is
"in the common interest of both the United States and Panama to restore a
U.S. military presence in Panama."

Phillips is calling on Congress to intervene and force Hutchison Whampoa's
contract for the canal to be revoked, and for U.S. troops to be permanently
stationed there.

NEWSMAX.COM/ZOGBY POLL

Question: On Dec. 31, 1999, the Panama Canal will be turned over to the
government of Panama. Do you think . . . ?

1. The United States should remain in control of the canal — 49 percent

2. Panama should take possession of the canal — 29 percent

3. Neither — 10 percent

4. Not sure — 12 percent.

Question: A Chinese company will control and operate the Panama Canal. Do you
think . . . ?

1. This threatens U.S. national security — 58 percent

2. Does not threaten U.S. national security — 31 percent

3. Not sure — 12 percent.






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Re: [CTRL] Freerepublic [Top 5 website] is Down

1999-12-22 Thread Bill Richer

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In a message dated 12/22/99 8:01:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 We have been unable to access the Free Republic website
 at http://freerepublic.com since early yesterday afternoon, Pacific Standard
Time, Dec. 21.

 Anyone with information as to the reason it's down, alternate website
locations for Free Republic, status on the safety and well-being of Jim
Robinson, etc., please post bulletins in any or all of these newsgroups.

 If the situation warrants, we will open up a temporary
 web site to carry the information posted on USENET until
 Free Republic comes back on line.

 We are hoping and praying that Free Republic has not been forced off the
Internet by Executive diktat or other unconstitutional action.
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I was able to get on the web site!
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[CTRL] Freerepublic [Top 5 website] is Down

1999-12-22 Thread Gavin Phillips

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In a message dated 12/22/99 7:01:15 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

<< Anyone with information as to the reason it's down, alternate website
locations for Free Republic, status on the safety and well-being of Jim
Robinson >>

Ummm, perhaps he tried to overload his tiny memory with spurious information
and crashed his (abnormally) undersized hard drive...
Really, c'mon...a fantatic's server is down, or he needs to visit his
(overprotective) mother for the holidays and all of a sudden it's a
CONSPIRACY???
Good GAWD y'all...I understand a bit o' paranoia...but C'MON!!

Bill



Hello Bill:

Your sarcastic comments about Jim Robinson aside. My original message was a forward 
from a Usenet group. I do not believe it is a "conspiracy," just information for 
people trying to access freerepublic. Gavin.

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Re: [CTRL] Freerepublic [Top 5 website] is Down

1999-12-22 Thread William Shannon

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In a message dated 12/22/99 8:16:59 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

<< Your sarcastic comments about Jim Robinson aside. My original message was
a forward from a Usenet group. I do not believe it is a "conspiracy," just
information for people trying to access freerepublic. Gavin. >>


Actually, I read the comment on alt.illuminati...or
alt.conspiracy...somewhere...and I was jus' joshin'
So to you Gavin, a BIG "PEACE"...but it DID seem that the author of this WAS
looking for a (far-fetched) conspiracy...and I'm sorry that I took it out on
you!

Peace!
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[CTRL] Opium Fields

1999-12-22 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
 Opium Fields
ISBN 974-7047-00-4
Jon Boyes & S. Piraban©1991 All rights reserved
Silkworm Books
Bankgok, Thailand 10150
pps. 134
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--even more astonishing is the very number of people, organisations, and even
national governments that have had a hand in creating this situation. For the
Golden Triangle did not appear overnight. It was planned. Its growth was
fostered and nurtured over decades by various interested parties--

--Who was behind the 1971 heroin plague? The North Vietnamese? The Viet Cong?
China? Evidence suggests it was America's allies, the South Vietnamese. It is
thought the Vietnamese navy and airforce were the prime importers, and the
army the distributors, with high-ranking officials in the customs, port
authority, National Police and National Assembly all playing important
supporting roles. In an unstable wartime economy, few could resist taking
part in a booming service industry which grossed an estimated eighty-eight
million dollars a year.

And behind it all, lurking in the shadows, lay the CIA,--

Om
k
-

1
INTRODUCTION
The Golden Triangle

The world's press conjured up the name 'Golden Triangle' to describe a vast,
virtually impenetrable region of rolling, jungle-clad hills, wide plateaus
and towering, jagged, limestone peaks embracing the northern reaches of
Thailand, the Shan, Wa and Kachin States of eastern Burma and much of
northwestern Laos.

It describes a region without defined limits, a land of narrow, twisting
mountain trails, jungle-flanked rivers, and in Thailand at least, government
built strategic roads.

An ethnological crossroads, it is an anthropologist's paradise, or nightmare
perhaps. A land whose bedrock of Thai, Shan and Lao peoples has been overlain
by a multitude of minority tribes and peoples — the Akha, Lisu and Lahu,
originally from Tibet and southwestern China, the Hmong and Yao from South
China, the many Karen peoples: Sgaw, Pwo, Kayah, Padaung, and others, whose
precise origins are unknown, the Kachin, originally from China, where they
are called Jing Pu, and the Haw Chinese from Yunnan Province.

It describes a land whose inhabitants are principally farmers, some of whom
till the rich valley floors, while others scratch a living from the steep
mountain slopes; one where valleys and mountains are sun-drenched in the hot,
dry season, blanketed in smoke and ash during the seasonal burn-off, a
quagmire in the long, wet monsoon months and subject to bitterly cold
Himalayan winds in winter.

It is a place where a force of one hundred armed men constitutes an army,
where rebellions against the state, whether against communist Laos, socialist
Burma or democratic Thailand are a way of life.

And it describes a region whose chief product has determined the history of
whole nations, the source of a substance that has been the cause of major
wars, a commodity that today is threatening the very fabric of our societies.
This product is, of course, opium, the so-called mother drug, the raw base
that is refined to produce heroin, one of the most destructive recreational
drugs known to mankind. Opium to the Golden Triangle is what coal was to
northern England, or corn to the American Midwest. It is the trade in illicit
drugs that makes the Triangle... Golden.

The 1988/89 Golden Triangle opium harvest was of record breaking proportions
with a bumper crop of 2,400 tonnes harvested. The 1989/90 harvest is thought
to have matched the previous year's. Two thousand four hundred tonnes of
opium translates roughly into 240 tonnes of refined heroin, or nearly forty
times the estimated annual consumption of the United States. These two giant
harvests will result in the Golden Triangle remaining as one of the most
significant — if not the most significant — heroin producing regions of the
world, and will contribute massively to the heroin addiction numbers reported
around the world. Thailand already has over 400,000 addicts, Malaysia 180,000
(heroin and opium), India 200,000 to 300,000, Pakistan over one million (in
1980 the number of addicts in Pakistan was considered so few as to be not
worth reporting) and the United States, possibly as many as 750,000. The flow
of heroin, it seems, cannot be stopped.

This book looks at the development of the Golden Triangle. It examines some
of the influences that have contributed to its creation.

We explore the link between the activities of certain European trading powers
in centuries past, and the growth in opium addiction in Southeast Asia and
China — which in consequence paved the way for the emergence of the Golden
Triangle during the present century. We review the actions of the French in
Indochina which directly led to the expansion of opium cultivation in
northern Vietnam and northeastern Laos -lands bordering today's Golden
Triangle, and consider the United States involvement with opium growing
hilltribes in northern Laos during the 1960s, an indirect result of which was
the heroin epidem

[CTRL] Fwd: "Halfbright's State, Soros' Estate?" - a letter to the editor of the Wall Street Journal (Dec. 22, 1999)

1999-12-22 Thread Kris Millegan






FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA

Thought you may be interested in the enclosed letter to the Wall Street 
Journal, "Halfbright Stands Up for Soros State" (Dec. 22, 1999). The letter 
is also available at the Truth in Media Web site - www.truthinmedia.org in 
the "TiM Activism" section.

You can also check out Djurdjevic's weekly columns on New World Order at 
"beograd.com" in English - 
http://news.beograd.com/english/articles_and_opinion/djurdjevic/index.html 
, or in Serbian - 
http://news.beograd.com/srpski/clanci_i_misljenja/djurdjevic/index.html .
---

December 22, 1999; 05:05 PM

Ned Crabb
Letters Editor
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
New York, NY

Subject: A letter to the editor re. "U.S. Blocks $500M Aid Deal for 
Russians,” a WSJ news story (Dec. 22, 1999)

Dear Ned,

Here's a $500 million-question for you: Since when do the U.S. national 
interests coincide with private affairs of business tycoons?

Answer: Since yesterday, Tuesday, Dec. 21, 1999.

For, that's when our Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, blocked a $500 
million loan guarantee by the U.S. Export-Import Bank to the Russian 
company, Tyumen Oil, invoking the 1978 Chafee Amendment, i.e., claiming 
that the deal was supposedly contrary to the U.S. national interests.

Albright's move is the latest example of abuse of power and public office 
by the Clinton administration officials.  For, the only entities which 
benefit from it are one George Soros, a business tycoon, and BP Amoco, a 
foreign-owned multinational.  Certainly not the United States of America, 
whose interests these officials have sworn to uphold.

If in doubt, consider what the Ex-Im loan guarantee was to be used for. 
Tyumen wants to buy American-made oil equipment and services!  About $295 
million from the Dallas-based Halliburton; and some $203 million from ABB 
Lummus Global of Bloomfield, NJ.  And that's protecting the U.S. national 
interests?  No wonder Mrs. Albright's detractors call her Madam Halfbright.

But the Secretary is "Madam Fullbright" when it comes to knowing which side 
the Clinton administration's bread is buttered on.

And which side is that?  Amazingly, the same as that of the self-proclaimed 
"conservative" voice in the media, one Wall Street Journal, judging by some 
omissions from your news story "U.S. Blocks $500M Aid Deal for Russians” 
(International Page, Dec. 22, 1999).

The Journal never mentions, for example, that George Soros is an investor 
in a company which Tyumen has been trying to acquire.  Why not?

Nor that Soros, as well as BP Amoco, have been using high-powered lobbyists 
to bring about this Halbright decision.  Why not?

Nor that the "troika" (BP, Soros, Tyumen) have been embroiled in a classic 
commercial dispute for over a year.  Why not?

Because none of the above has anything even remotely to do with the U.S. 
national interests?  True.  But silence is acquiescence.

The Journal's cover-up-by-omission suggests that your paper seems to be 
representing the same interests as our sorry Foggy Bottom secretary of the 
Soros Estate seems to be doing - those of George-the-Shark's and BP's, 
rather than those of the American people - your readers.

For, as a result of this State Dept. decision, the deficit-ridden U.S. 
economy will be deprived of another $500 million of exports which it badly 
needs, so as to offset some of the soaring imports from the Clinton 
administration's "most favorite nations," such as China, for example.  And 
stave off Clinton's most favorite export - American jobs.

If the Journal were really a voice of "conservative" business interests in 
America, it would have screamed bloody murder on account of the former 
travesty (export of goods restriction), if not the latter (export of jobs).

Thankfully, the Journal's silence and acquiescence has at least one 
redeeming virtue.  Now we know for sure whose interests both the State 
Dept. and the Journal serve: Those of George.  Not the magazine's.  And not 
George-the-Washington's.  Those of George-the-Shark's.  Who hails from a 
state called Soros.  Not a part of the United States.  It's an alien state 
(of mind).  To most Americans…

Merry Christmas, Ned!  For I suspect you keep looking out your window at 
the fading Miss Liberty - wistfully and misty-eyed?  For, her image is 
getting more blurred with each passing year of the New World Order 
era.  Blurred by its moral, not only physical, pollution.

Time to wipe off the mist from our eyes?  And feed the wist in our 
hearts?  By slaying the beast of the NWO?  What a Christmas gift that would 
be...

Best regards,

Bob Djurdjevic,
Founder, Truth in Media
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[CTRL] Re: [CTRL] The East India Company…

1999-12-22 Thread Linda Minor

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The East India Company 1600-1858
By Patrick Tuck (Editor). This is a six-volume hardcover set published in
1998 by Routledge.

Here's another interesting site:
http://www.theeastindiacompany.com/history3.html

The Company Bahadur
By the early nineteenth century the East India Company's writ extended
across most of India, Burma, Singapore and Hong Kong, and a fifth of the
world's population was under its authority. The Company had at various
stages defeated China, occupied the Phillipines, conquered Java and
imprisoned Napoleon on its island of St. Helena. It had neatly solved its
perennial need for bullion to buy tea by illicitly exporting Indian-grown
opium to China. It was the largest single commercial enterprise the world
had ever seen, with revenues derived not only trade but also tax-collecting.
Yet as it became the administrative arm of the fledgling Empire, the Company
attracted men of selfless zeal -- Bentinck, the Lawrences, Edwardes -- who
saw their work in India as an opportunity to bring an enlightened regimen to
bear on a country that had suffered under the yoke of previous conquerors.

The constitution, the law, the irrigation and railways of India still owe a
great debt to these men, and the 'Company Bahadur' (powerful) they served.
When the East India Company finally reverted to the Crown in 1874, the Times
reported, "It is just as well to record that it accomplished a work such as
in the whole history of the human race no other company ever attempted and
as such is ever likely to attempt in the years to come."


http://www.theeastindiacompany.com/company.html
Founded by the Royal Charter of Queen Elizabeth the First in 1600, The East
India Company was once the single most powerful economic force that the
world has ever seen.

Based in London, its influence reached out to all continents, and the
consequences of its actions, both great and small, are the very fabric of
history itself -- the Company, for example, created British India, caused
the Boston Tea Party, founded Hong Kong and Singapore, employed Captain Kidd
to combat piracy, established tea in India, held Napoleon captive, and made
the fortune of Elihu Yale. Its flag inspired the Stars and Stripes, its
shipyards provided the model for St. Petersburg, its administration still
forms the basis of Indian bureaucracy, and its corporate structure was the
earliest example of a joint stock company.

http://www.theeastindiacompany.com/archives/north_america.html

 The East India Company in North America
Although its Charter only gave the East India Company a monopoly on trade to
the east of the Cape of Good Hope, the sheer scale of its enterprise meant
that the Company had a significant influence on the newly emerging American
colonies. Indeed the American historian Henry Newton Stevens maintained that
the Mayflower which participated in the third voyage of the Company was the
same ship that later was to take the Pilgrim Fathers on their voyage from
Plymouth.

The Virginia Company
In the early days of the seventeenth century the small circle of influential
merchants in the City of London who formed the East India Company in 1600
had their fingers in a number of other trading pies. The Governor of the
East India Company in its first decade, Sir Thomas Smyth, was also the first
Governor of the Virginia Company founded in 1606, and the two Companies
shared their headquarters in Smyth's house, along with that of the Levant
Company. The Virginia Company was the first British colonial enterprise in
North America, following on the naming of that state after the Virgin Queen,
Elizabeth I. The Virginia Company founded the colonial port of Jamestown on
Chesapeake Bay, now a Colonial Heritage site.

Captains from Hudson to Kidd
One of the key issues at the time of the foundation of the Company was the
search for the "North West Passage" over the top of North America to the
Indies, considered of vital interest because of the continued dominance of
the sea routes east by the Spanish and Portugese. The Company financed
expeditions in order to find the supposed passage, and on one such voyage
the Captain, Henry Hudson, was cast ashore to die by his mutinous crew in
the bay which now bears his name. Forced to share the sea-lanes on the more
conventional route to China and the Spice Islands, the Company had little
contact with America until it had successfully established its trade in
India; then private traders or "interlopers" based in New England caused
many headaches for the Company by joining in with the trade and, as the
Company saw it, interfering with their monopoly. The situation was
aggravated by the activities of American pirates on the trading lanes
between India and the Middle East. Eventually the Company gave a contract to
the newly-appointed Governor of New York to get rid of this menace. He found
a well-armed ship and an experienced commander named Captain Kidd, who soon,
far from suppressing piracy, became one of its most

[CTRL] More About Rat's Nests/Curmudgeons/Christ's Story

1999-12-22 Thread Jabr 333

 -Caveat Lector-

Listers:  Here is an email I sent to someone today -- helping to try and
explain a mind control victim's situations in another country.  Perhaps this
will help other victims...Judith
_

XXX:

Good to hear from you -- good to get your update. I am still pleased that XXX
is living back in X -- just sounds like the best idea.  At least you are
around for her.  Assuming  is dealing still with a crime assault, you
can't expect that she can handle stuff like school problems, lots of people
in the US now are home schooling kids.  Are her parents still alive?  What
happened to the sister?  Did  get any financial help from parents deaths
at all?  Since my trip to midwest, last August, I really learned a lot about
what this thing appears to be now.  And it is phenomenal how this thing plays
out.  Please give  copies, if you can, of any of my emails, encourage her
to write me, if she needs, wants support.  There is a "good luck" scheme
behind these victims of sort, where contacting a victim can give others
benefits with their lives.  She contacting me might help her, and vica versa.
 And your contacting me may give you good luck, help with life.  I know this,
I have watched this occur for years now around me.  And it has to do partly
with a real phenomena.  This is, I believe the wares games stuff.   LIke
, I believe that some of these implants may be organic -- they may be
small worms in fact, Z.  LIke I said before, they may live, even grow in
body -- like eels they may conduct electrical charges.  Which is why when
they are accessed, the person winds up tortured in body.  But, I also believe
that strong antibiotics may kill them and eventually their waste does go.
But during the time that they are in body they may put out chemicals,
constantly dousing the victim with drugs, which are psychotic to experience.
The implants, and/or creatures in body, may also contain small transmitters
which make the asaults upon the person that much worse.  Doctors may not like
to try to remove them because the worms are hard to kill -- hard to get at,
they move fast when doctors go for them and hide in other parts of the body.
And this is considered really seedy stuff -- satanic-cult stuff. Possibly
Wicca cults too (I am not sure).

What is is probably is a satanic cult's assault upon a person they believe
has gone astray, probably from their mother's "covent" plans, or covenant
chain (hidden-secretive social plans of the cult).  The deal is that most
mothers in the world design plans for kids with local cults for the future of
the child. IF the child doesn't get involved in picking up these plans, the
mother's coven group then goes after the child and assaults it.  OR a sister
or relative too might also use the cult to force, the hard way, a child to
behave as they feel it should.  Then the WHOLE community gets involved
against the kid.  Using chemicals on them, local syndicates can begin
assaulting them, etc.  And these specialized, secretive "curmudgeon" couples,
living in all communities everywhere practically now, control the implanting,
 and druggings of victims like .  The curmudgeons use victims in wares
games -- implanting them with more electric worms and transmission devices --
and then they obtain these wares fish off of the victims in public and
stalking them in their homes.  The wares fishes are seen on the sidewalks,
dead ones, as large black tar spots.  When the fishes are accessed by crime
syndicates and when they get big ones, these are amazing to see arrive or
materialize.  They appear to come through the air, out of nowhere.  The
electrical pull of these worms & transmitters, attracts them, and they appear
as small as a tiny dot or as large as a 5-6" in diameter.  The larger the
better for pimps.  The fishes put off frequency sends which people use to get
favors with--some people carry these things around with them in public in
purses, etc.  The sends attract suitors.  Etc.  Pimps use them with
prostitutes.  And the fishes when they appear have an amazing frequency
charge to them, it is hard to get near them, and they gravitate to people's
hands.  They look like a large lump of black jelly.  They have a halo which
appears at first in the center, a circle of light, and a white pearl in the
center.  They have an eye of sorts and underneath, I think a mouth.  These
are the large ones...which pimps covet.  The pearls give people sends too --
and can get people favors for their lives.  So people pay handsomelyfor them.
 People everywhere have used the system for favors.  They like it because it
had helped them in the past.  And they also appear to liek the tagging system
in this which targets dissidents and so-called "wayward" people in the
community.  Of this last statement, probably nothing could be farther from
the truth.  As I see this as a male game, of assault usually upon women.  And
the women's mothers' cults.  Once someone

Re: [CTRL] legal cases involved with recovered memory and ritual abuse.

1999-12-22 Thread Smart News

 -Caveat Lector-

Hi !

Below please find a web page with numerous links about recovered memory and
the legal cases involved with recovered memory and ritual abuse.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

Our listing these resources does not necessarily constitute our endorsement
of them. Resources mentioned in this resource list are mentioned for
educational value only. Using these resources may or may not help your
recovery process, so use caution when reading anything or contacting anyone
mentioned in this resource list.
This page may be triggering for survivors.

excerpt from http://members.tripod.com/~Curio_5_/index.html

Satanic Cults and Ritual Abuse

There are several individuals and groups around the country who are claiming
that there are no sadistic sex rings who prey on children or adults. That is
a misperception perpetuated by sex rings and the fronts that protect them.
The scientific and clinical community have inadvertently helped confuse the
issues by continually changing the name of this activity in order to make it
more palatable to the public. In fact, child victims don't care if the
clinical community call this "ritual abuse," "satanic ritual abuse," or
"sadistic abuse." Kids are only concerned about being safe and having adults
around them who will have the knowledge to recognize what was done to them
and who will help protect them.

We all should know that it is wrong to target groups simply because they hold
beliefs different than our own. As long as people are obeying the law and not
hurting others, they should be free to explore any belief system they so
choose. But when people are using their belief systems as rationalizations to
prey on others, and that belief system or modus operandi is used to
perpetuate abuse, then we need to address the crime both therapeutically and
in a court of law. And because of that there are several States that have
enacted ritual abuse laws that were meant to help in the recognition of these
crimes in order to address their complexity. I am in favor of this legal
recognition and I will explain in detail why.

However, to confuse the issues, there are several reports, like the Ken
Lanning report on ritual crime and the Gail Goodman report from UC Davis,
that have been misrepresented and mischaracterized. There are many people in
the FMSF community claiming that Gail Goodman "unsubstantiated" 12,000 ritual
abuse allegations. Of course, that claim is absurd and in the coming weeks
that will be addressed. In addition to which, an appellate court reviewing
the Damien Echols ritual murder case was not persuaded that this area needed
to be recognized by the scientific community in order for courts to address
its reality:

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[CTRL] A "Patriot" Christmas (A poem)

1999-12-22 Thread True Patriot

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A Militia Man's Christmas
by Santa Zog


'Twas the night before Christmas, and in the condominium
Not a patriot was stirring, not even a Davidian.
The duffels were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that Mark from Michigan soon would be there;
The troops were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of Ruby Ridge danced in their heads;
And Linda in her camos and I in my helmet,
Had just settled down to sleep for a bit,
When out on the lawn there arose such a clamor,
I grabbed a revolver and pulled back the hammer.
Away to the window I flew to defend
My home from the ravenous liberal fiends.
The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow
Made it seem like the body of Janet Reno.
When, what through my wandering scope should appear,
But a miniature troop-carrier, complete with full gear,
With a fatigue-clad driver, so lively and sharp,
I knew 'twas from Michigan--the guy they called Mark.
More rapid than jack-booted thugs did he come,
And he ranted and raved and at the mouth he did foam.
"Now, U.N.! Now, Clinton! Now Brady and Schroeder!
"On, Boutros! On, Hillary! On, New World Order!
To the compound at Waco! To the OKC faxes!
Now dash away! dash away, all income taxes!"
Like liberals, wanting to have one-world rule,
At the thought of banning our guns do so drool,
So too did Mr. Koernke drive to our door
Avoiding the land mines I'd placed there before.
And then, in a twinkling, I saw that he'd drawn
A Chinese assault weapon right there on my lawn.
As I readied a grenade and was turning around,
With a fiery cascade, he shot my door down.
He was dressed all in green from his cap to his trousers
And his clothes were all tarnished with reloading powder.
Three Sam Brownes full of ammo were slung on his back,
And he looked like Attila getting ready to sack.
His eyes--how they twinkled! His mustache how Nazi!
His cheeks were like roses, his demeanor so ROTC!
His droll little mouth was all set to grin
As if a microchip had been emplanted within.
The stock of his AK he gripped tight with care
As a thin whisp of smoke rose from it through the air.
He had a broad face and a little round belly,
That shook, when his videos were played on the telly.
He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old sort,
The kind that would kill government agents for sport.
A wink of his eye and a twist of his hairs
Suggested to me there was no light on upstairs.
He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work
And rearmed all our weapons; then turned with a jerk,
And laying his finger on his safety release,
He reentered the confines of his great armored beast.
He turned on the engine and away did he speed,
Following street signs that had been secretly keyed.
But I heard him exclaim, ere he turned round the corner,
"God bless the Republic, and Death to the New World Order!"

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