[CTRL] Va. residents petition court to push Gilmore on UFO issues

2000-06-20 Thread DIG alfred webre

 http://www.jrnl.net/news/00/Jun/jrn3190600.html


 Va. residents petition court to push Gilmore on UFO issues

 Suit seeks to empanel grand jury for alien abduction investigations

 Suit seeks action on UFOs


 By JOSH LOFTIN
 Journal staff writer


 They have appeared in books as little green men, in movies as
 furry Wookies and on television as physics professors. Soon,
 aliens and unidentified flying objects could become the center of
 attention at Alexandria Circuit Court.

 Seeking to end decades of "government cover-up," Alexandria
 resident Larry W.  Bryant - along with Gretchen Condon of Hampton
 and Evelyn J. Goodwin of Newport News - has filed a civil suit
 against Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore asking a court to order Gilmore
 to address the issue of UFOs and alien abduction.

 "Our demand comes in the form of an extroadinary legal remedy
 that may or may not succeed in giving victims of the so-called
 UFO/E.T. abduction phenomenon their day in court," Bryant said in
 a news release.

 No other plaintiffs could be contacted because of unlisted
 numbers.

 The suit, filed June 5, does not seek any money. Instead, it has
 four primary goals.

 Bryant wants a special state grand jury empaneled to investigate
 the numerous UFO sighting and abduction claims.

 He wants Gilmore to create a task force to analyze all data
 related to the "alien invasion."

 The suit seeks to have Virginia's National Guard units trained to
 handle the continuing "alien invasion," as they might prepare to
 handle a terrorist attack.

 The suit wants Virginia to grant victims of alien abductions the
 same rights that victims of other attacks, such as rape, receive.

 Because of the continuing reports of strange encounters from
 people throughout the world, Bryant said in a telephone
 interview, "there is just too much smoke to ignore."

 So far, the case has garnered very little serious attention.
 Bryant has sent numerous e-mail messages to Gilmore and the
 Virginia Attorney General Mark Earley's office, most of which
 were returned because of computer errors. He also has sent
 certified letters with copies of the suit to both offices, yet
 has not received a response, he said.

 When contacted for this story, a spokesman for Earley had no
 comment.

 "Maybe they hope I'll just dry up and blow away, but that's a
 fruitless hope," Bryant said. "This is not some exercise in
 gamesmanship. This is a legitimate suit, and they should treat it
 as such."

 Bryant is well aware that filing a suit to force the government's
 hand on UFOs will look slightly crazy to some people. Because of
 the nature of the suit, he has failed to find an attorney willing
 to represent him and the other plaintiffs. Yet he said he remains
 undeterred and is convinced he has done enough homework and
 provided enough evidence to win the case.

 "The court has to take every lawsuit seriously and hear both
 sides equally,"  said Bryant, who retired from his job as a
 technical writer for the Army in 1994.

 Included in Bryant's case folder of more than 50 pages are police
 reports of abductions in surrounding areas, complete with one
 victim's drawings of the aliens. Also, Bryant cites numerous
 cases involving the governor's responsibility to protect the
 commonwealth from invasions, as well as UFO research by private
 citizens and government agencies.

 Although the suit is the first filed by Bryant, he is no stranger
 to UFO research. For 22 years, he has run the Alexandria-based
 Citizens Against UFO Secrecy, an organization which has a similar
 legal battle with Arizona officials. In the Arizona case, which
 seeks to have the Defense Department release all of the documents
 it has about UFO reports, CAUS is appealing a denial of its
 Freedom of Information Act request to the Ninth Circuit Court of
 Appeals in San Francisco.

 The time is right to begin battling the UFO "cover-up" in court
 because "the climate has changed," Bryant said.

 "There is so much research to do out there," he said.

 More than anything, however, Bryant want answers to all of the
 questions the public asks. After all, he said, "what's the big
 secret?"

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[CTRL] Fwd: They are rioting in L.A.

2000-06-20 Thread Bill Kingsbury

Marla wrote:
 I can't believe it ... they are rioting in LA, they destroyed a
 police car, there are fires everywhere, watching this on TV is
 so scary.  There was something brewing out there.  They just
 called for 200 more officers as reinforcement.  This is
 horrible.  This is also the venue for the Democratic Convention
 in about a month.


 On L.A. radio Sunday, I heard one key Hispanic leader
 directly implying that Los Angeles will be 'shut down'
 during the Democratic Convention by 'citizen' strikes and
 demonstrations, all demanding amnesty for ALL illegal aliens.

 As legal citizens, approx. 10 million people will become
 eligible for tens of billions of dollars of welfare programs.
 Millions of new 'citizens' are now rushing to California to
 get in on the action.  Democracy in action!  Wow!




 Today, Americans would be outraged if U.N. forces
 entered Los Angeles to restore order  [referring to
 the 1992 L.A. Riot].  TOMORROW, THEY WILL BE GRATEFUL.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: They are rioting in L.A.

2000-06-20 Thread Aleisha Saba

This is repeat of the sixties being engineered by the same people.
Black Panthers were nothing but pawns of organized crime.   Note:  the
destroyed democrat convenion in 1968 in order to take over party..this
is CFR stuff.   Like black from Berkley who murdered King Faisal in
1968.

And remember - California is where Bobby Kennedy ran and won so they got
a little programmed idiot to murder him and on the wall the words were
written "there is but one King"while a little girl ran from the
scene screaming "we killed him".   Later she was found in motel room
with words in lipstick writen on screen "Lord You Gave Me that Mountain
I Am Love to Climb"keeping in mind God knocked off Moses and Dr.
King, on Mt. Nebo all timed..

This is CFR stuff through Clinton, for the CFR is both Republican and
Democrat.   They want their man in period and now will terrify the city
and troops will come in wearng gas masks perhaps where the faces will
not be visible?

The the President elected this year will be murdered in office and the
number two man take over.3 Presidents, right out of Daniel.

Watch out for the soothsayers and astrologers - the little Princess of
Wales made mistake of meeting with her psychic spy day she was to die.
At a time certain, let me quote you chapter and verse.

So fasten up your seat belts and let us see now this great guestapo
force consisting no doubt of long knives of India and killers from Delta
and this Chinese Ninjh turned loose - and remember these Black Moslems
hate Catholics and Christians.never knock the Zionists, which I find
rather strange, in their new york publications that is.

Their master plan is rather obvious - they come in for the kill now for
watch that number 2 man, who will run for VP...they want to kill
this President to be elected as they did JFK, Reagan (they tried) and
even Lincoln

McKinley, and he too was of Scotch Irish Descen.

Now William Randolph Hearst got blamed for that one for his reporter
Ambrose Bierce wrote a little poem or quantrain, which read:

The Bullet that pierced Goebells breast;
Cannot be found in all the West.

Good reason, it is speeding here;
To put McKinley on the Bier.

Goebells was murdered governor of Kentucky and Ambrose Bierce like
little Sirhan Sirihan, was a Rosicrucian as is Pattie Hearst and the
Hearst famlynice peopleand those scorpions that were to be let
loose in the Democrat convention that year in 1968, were to be set by
Quakerstown Rosicrucians.

Burn Baby Burn.fasten up your seat belts, for this is Show Biz and
big time bucks for new media unless, that is - they hit those
communication towers - and then we will know what turned thee animals
loose - hey I witnessed this in the 60 period - met JFK, RFK and both
murdered..liked Reagan and they narly go him..Teddy almost killed
twice on bridge and in plane.

Note CIA lately losing agents.did Henry Kissinger turn loose another
list?

Shoot by?   Remembr the little old man a congressman who headed up
Senate Armed Force Committee gunned down in front of his house by
wayward blacks?

Everything old is new again?

A. Saba
Dare To Call It Conspiracy

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[CTRL] Fwd: DPFOR: Roger Ebert on GRASS

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan









Roger Ebert's review of the movie _GRASS_ is great stuff!

You can link to the review at
http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert1/grass16f.html.


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VOTE FOR WEED

***

GRASS / ** (R)

June 16, 2000


Unapix Films presents a documentary produced and directed by Ron Mann.
Narrated by Woody Harrelson. Written by Solomon Vesta. Running time: 80
minutes. Rated R (for drug content).


BY ROGER EBERT


It is agreed by reasonable people that one of the results of anti-drug
laws is to support the price of drugs and make their sale lucrative. If
drugs were legalized, the price would fall, and the motive to promote
them would fade away. Since anyone who wants drugs can get them now,
usage would be unlikely to increase. Crime would go down when addicts
didn't have to steal to support their habits, and law enforcement would
benefit from the disappearance of drug-financed bribery, payoffs and
corruption.

All of this is so obvious that the opposition to the legalization of
drugs seems inexplicable--unless you ask who would be hurt the most by
the repeal of drug laws. The international drug cartels would be put out
of business. Drug enforcement agencies would be unnecessary. Drug
wholesalers and retailers would have to seek other employment. If it is
true (as often charged) that the CIA has raised money by dealing in
drugs, it would lose this source of funds free from congressional
accounting. Who would benefit if drugs were legalized? The
public--because both drug usage and its associated crimes would diminish.

Despite the logic of this argument, few political candidates have had the
nerve to question the way our drug laws act as a price support system,
and encourage drug usage. "Grass," a new documentary by Ron Mann, traces
the history of the laws against one drug--marijuana--back to their
origins in anti-Mexican prejudice at the turn of the century, and forward
through periods when marijuana was seen as part of the Red conspiracy.
When New York Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia commissioned a study of the weed,
his commission found the "sociological, psychological and medical" threat
of the substance was "exaggerated." He called for its decriminalization.
Many years later, so did President Jimmy Carter--until he had to lay low
after an aide was nabbed on cocaine charges.

Other presidents, of course, have enthusiastically supported anti-drug
laws (Richard M. Nixon going so far as to swear in Elvis Presley in the
war against narcotics). "Grass" traces much of our national drug policy
to one man, Harry J. Anslinger, the first drug czar, who like J. Edgar
Hoover created a fiefdom that was immune to congressional criticism.

"Grass" is not much as a documentary. It's a cut-and-paste job,
assembling clips from old and new anti-drug films and alternating them
with pro-drug footage from the Beats, the flower power era and so on. The
narration by pro-hemp campaigner Woody Harrelson is underlined by the
kind of lurid graphics usually seen on 1940s coming attractions trailers.

The film is unlikely to tell many of its viewers anything they don't
already know, and unlikely to change our national drug policy. The
situation will continue indefinitely, corrupting politicians and whole
nations with billions of dollars of illegal profits. Those who use drugs
will continue to do so. Others will abstain, die or find a way to stop,
just as they do now. Prohibition proved that when the government tries to
come between the people and what the people want to do, laws are not
effective; statistically, Prohibition coincided with a considerable
increase in drinking.

Am I in favor of drugs? Not at all. Drug abuse has led to an epidemic of
human suffering. Grass seems relatively harmless, but I have not known
anyone who used hard drugs and emerged undamaged. Still, in most
societies throughout human history, drug use has been treated
realistically--as a health problem, not a moral problem. Have our drug
laws prevented anyone from using drugs? Apparently not. Have they given
us the world's largest prison population, cost us billions of dollars and
helped create the most violent society in the first world? Yes. From an
objective point of view--what's the point?




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[CTRL] Teaching Evolution Will Require No Disclaimer

2000-06-20 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

No Disclaimer Required

Supreme Court Lets Evolution Ruling Stand

By Richard Carelli
The Associated Press


W A S H I N G T O N, June 19 — The Supreme Court refused to let
a public school district require that the teaching of evolution
be accompanied by a disclaimer mentioning “the biblical version
of creation” and other teachings on life’s origin.

 The justices, by a 6-3 vote today, let stand rulings that
struck down a Louisiana school board’s disclaimer policy as a
violation of the constitutionally required separation of
government and religion.

 Today’s action was not a precedent-setting decision but
only a denial of review.

 Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices Antonin
Scalia and Clarence Thomas voted to hear arguments in the case.

 The Tangipahoa Parish school board in 1994 voted to require
teachers to tell students about to study the theory of evolution
that is “presented to inform students of the scientific concept
and not intended to influence or dissuade the biblical version of
creation or any other concept.”

 The disclaimer drafted by the school board also said: “It
is the basic right and privilege of each student to form his-her
own opinion or maintain beliefs taught by parents on this very
important matter. … Students are urged to exercise critical
thinking and gather all information possible and closely examine
each alternative toward forming an opinion.” Promoting Religion
Three parents of students sued in federal court to challenge the
policy, and a federal judge blocked its enforcement. The judge
said the disclaimer was unconstitutional because it had a
religious purpose.

 A three-judge panel of the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals
agreed that the disclaimer had to be struck down but cited a
different reason — it had the effect of promoting religion.

 The panel did not rule out the possibility that a school
board could require some type of disclaimer stating that
evolution was not the only accepted explanation of the origin of
life. But it said the Tangipahoa Parish disclaimer “under the
facts and circumstances of this case … is not sufficiently
neutral” to be constitutionally permissible.

 In the appeal acted today, lawyers for the school board
argued that “the mere mention of the biblical version of
creation by way of illustration does not present a significant
risk of perceived endorsement of Bible-based religion.”

 The appeal said reasonable high school or elementary
students would not interpret the disclaimer as a pro-religion
message.

 “The central message of the disclaimer resolution is that
there are no outsiders or insiders, no one who is favored or
disfavored, on the issue of life’s origin but persons of all
viewpoints are full members in the school community.”


Neutrality Toward Religion Lawyers for those who challenged the
disclaimer disagreed. “By disclaiming only evolution — the
one element of the school curriculum that generates religious
controversy — the school board has violated both the
constitutional mandate of neutrality toward religion and its
obligation to provide its students with secular educations free
from religious indoctrination or partisanship,” they said.

 They noted that the disclaimer was drafted shortly after the
school board voted 5-4 to reject a proposal to teach
“creation-science” in the district’s schools.

 Creation-science teaches that Earth and most life forms came
into existence suddenly about 6,000 years ago. Critics have
attacked it as a disguise for a literal translation of the Book
of Genesis.

 Evolution, first propounded by Charles Darwin, states that
Earth is billions of years old, and that life forms developed
gradually several million years ago.

 The Supreme Court in 1987 barred states from requiring the
teaching of creationism in public schools where evolution is
taught, calling such a Louisiana law a thinly veiled attempt to
promote religion.

 The teaching of evolution has been controversial since the
famous 1925 “monkey law” trial in which teacher John Scopes
was convicted and fined $100 for teaching evolution when
Tennessee law made it a crime to teach anything but the Biblical
version of creation.

 Scopes’ conviction later was overturned by the Tennessee
Supreme Court on a procedural matter, and never reached the
nation’s highest court.

 The case is Tangipahoa Parish Board of Education vs.
Freiler, 99-1625.

 Writing for the court’s three dissenters today, Scalia
criticized the court for standing by while an appeals court
“bars a school district from even suggesting to students that
other theories besides evolution — including but not limited
to, the biblical theory of creation — are worthy of their
consideration.”



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[CTRL] Exclusive: Photos Reveal Elian's Day Out

2000-06-20 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

From:

http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/6/19/200106

With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...

Monday June 19, 2000 9:09 PM EST

Neighbor: Elian Victimized by Voodoo


It was bad enough that Elian Gonzalez’s first venture out from
his detention at the Wye Plantation was to the Georgetown home of
wealthy donors to the Democratic Party.

Elian is, no doubt, a trophy for the Democratic Party and for
Castro.

Apparently, the Cuban government wants to pay homage to its pagan
gods for its custody of little Elian.

Yesterday Elian, his family and an entourage of Cuban officials
were escorted to the Silver Spring, Md., home of a
Cuban-American.

The next-door neighbor forwarded NewsMax.com pictures of the
event. The neighbor insists the Gonzalez party was participating
in Santeria activities.

Santeria is an Afro-Cuban religion in which animal sacrifices are
performed regularly to help the practitioner succeed in his
endeavors.

It has long being rumored that Castro and his thugs are involved
in these practices that some refer to as voodoo.

Another NewsMax.com reader also witnessed the Santeria conclave
yesterday and reported, "Based on what I saw and heard, I believe
the information provided by the next-door neighbor with respect
to Santeria activity is reliable."

He continued: "I can tell you that the sound of the drums was
deafening at times, and that Juan Miguel was drinking heavily.
The neighbor also pointed out a Santeria relic visible through
the window of the house. All this activity took place under the
noses of the U.S. Marshals Service and INS agents.

"... practically the entire staff of the Cuban Interests Section
was present at this event, including persons suspected of having
participated in the attack on peaceful demonstrators in
Washington, D.C., on April 14, 2000. Cuban diplomatic cars were
parked all along the street during this five-hour gathering."

Perhaps it’s time to call an exorcist.

http://www.newsmax.com/articles/?a=2000/6/19/95231

Exclusive: Photos Reveal Elian's Day Out

NewsMax.com Monday, June 19, 2000

Yesterday Elian, his father and their Cuban entourage attended a
Father’s Day outing at the home of a man identified in the press
as a "Cuban diplomat." The man resides on Connecticut Avenue in
Silver Spring, Md.

A NewsMax.com reader lives next door and took photos and offered
commentary. We are publishing this information for the benefit of
our readers (please click on the links to see the pictures
indicated): From the Neighbor:

"These photos were taken in a hurry and through the window of one
the bedrooms of my sister's house. I just wanted to post them as
soon as possible. Please, forgive the quality of some of the
photos, but there wasn't much time to prepare for this.

"In one photo, Elian can be seen through the bushes holding a
box.

http://www.newsmax.com/images/headlines/elianbox.jpg

While most of the kids played in the backyard of the house, Elian
was not allowed to be in the backyard for anymore than a few
minutes at a time.

http://www.newsmax.com/images/headlines/played.jpg

"Even though he tried to get out several times, he was prevented
from so doing.

http://www.newsmax.com/images/headlines/tried.jpg

"In another photo it can be appreciated to the left of the
Central AC unit, what appears to be a Gargoyle like figurine.

http://www.newsmax.com/images/headlines/santeria.jpg

It is a Santeria Deity, plain and simple. It used to be located
by the main entrance of the house on the steps leading to the
front door. Some have said that it is an effigy representing
Eleggua, the opener of the roads in the Santeria pantheon of
deities.

"I am thouroghly convinced that Divine Providence is at work
here. For Elian to wind up next door to a Cuban family while
visiting a Cuban house can't be considered a coincidence. A
Higher Power is at Work here.

"On the other hand, if Elian was spending Father's Day at the
'official residence of a Cuban diplomat' as stated by CBS
Affiliate Channel 9 here in the D.C. area last night in their
11:00 p.m. news program, then the U.S. Marshals Service was in
direct violation of the orders issued by the 11th District Court
of Appeals in Atlanta, which 'forbids Elian to be taken to any
and all diplomatic facilities while the appeals are in progress.'
Either way, someone will have a lot of explaining to do regarding
this 'outing'.

"Here is the balance of the photos taken from a bedroom window of
my sister's house. Some include the Cuban Diplomatic Hierarchy,

http://www.newsmax.com/images/headlines/diplo.jpg

A group with Elian,

http://www.newsmax.com/images/headlines/group.jpg

Juan Miguel (with video camera),

http://www.newsmax.com/images/headlines/JuanMiguel.jpg

His wife and Elian's baby half-brother.

http://www.newsmax.com/images/headlines/half2.jpg

"Also notice the Cuban 'diplomats' in control of everything.
During the brief moments Elian was allowed to be outside the
house, he was 

[CTRL] The Constitution is stupid, argues Census worker

2000-06-20 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

From:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_fosterj_news/2619_xnfoj_constituti.shtm
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YOUR PAPERS, PLEASE ...

'Constitution is stupid,' argues Census worker

Michigan family decries abuse by 'Cens-less' Bureau employee

By Julie Foster © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com


When Michigan resident Kim Carey refused to answer questions
about her neighbor posed by a Census Bureau employee making
follow-up visits, she cited her belief that the questions are
"unconstitutional," to which the enumerator retorted, "The
Constitution is stupid."

The government employee was attempting to fill out a census form
with information gathered by proxy -- a practice employed when
residents do not respond to follow-up visits.

According to the national Census 2000 office, proxy information
may be gleaned from neighbors, resident managers or any other
knowledgeable party over the age of 15.

Carey informed the enumerator that one person occupied the
residence in question, but would not answer queries related to
her neighbor's age or race.

According to Carey's sister, Shelah Balogh -- who was present at
the time of the visit -- the enumerator persisted after calling
the Constitution "stupid,"  saying, "Come on, how old is he ...
30, 40, 50?"

Balogh shut the door, and the enumerator, described as a young
man in his early 20s, went to an open window and began yelling,
"Is he black, white?  What is he?" before heading to another
neighbor's home.

"I was appalled at his belligerence.  I felt as if I were under
attack," Carey told WND.

"It's sad and scary that an apparently educated young American
representing our government could show such contempt for our
Constitution.  Think of the countless men who died defending
those ideals.  It's sick."

WorldNetDaily contacted the Troy, Mich., field office for the
U.S. Census Bureau in an attempt to identify the enumerator.
Pam Corby, assistant manager of field operations for the office,
was appalled at the behavior of the employee, but said there was
no way for her to determine exactly who he was.

"It's deplorable," Corby said in response to the enumerator's
comment about the Constitution.

She noted that all Census Bureau employees take an oath to uphold
the Constitution and that the young worker's actions violated
that oath.

The bureau hires thousands of people, she said, and offices are
required to hire anyone who passes a basic skills test
administered by the bureau.  The test consists of 28
multiple-choice questions "designed to measure the skills,
abilities and knowledge required to perform a variety of Census
jobs," says the bureau's website.

"There are five parts to the test: reading, clerical, numerical,
evaluative and organizational skills."  The test-taker has 30
minutes to complete the exam and may retake it "as often as
required."  Prospective employees must also pass a security
background check.

"Four of every five applicants achieve a score of 70 percent or
better," the bureau asserts, though it does not specify a
qualifying score for employment.  Veterans receive hiring
preference.  The policy "totally eliminates discrimination,"
Corby said.  "It's a good process, but it has its fall-backs
[sic] when these things happen."

Corby indicated her desire to "deal with" employees like the one
Carey and Barogh encountered, but her hands are tied in the
matter.  There is no mechanism in place by which supervisors can
find out what enumerators are in specific places at specific
times, she said.

Corby apologized for the employee's actions, noting the majority
of census workers are "there for the money."

Indeed, WND was contacted by an enumerator who admitted he is
financially motivated.

"I do it for the money," he wrote, noting that he earns $13.75
per hour and 33 cents per mile while on the job.

"The miles add up when it's a rural area and you have to go back
three times,"  he continued.  "So if a job address is a 20-mile
round trip, and the round trip takes one hour (they pay port to
port)" then the enumerator earns $41.25, he calculated.

"Easy money," he said, though he believes it is "a waste of
taxpayers' money.  We can't work more than 40 hours a week, but
mileage is pretty much open.  It's great part-time work -- no
pressure, fresh air, sunshine.  Hell, it pays for cigars and
beer, and on the way back, I do a little fishing."

With sworn government officials acting under oath for "easy
money" and a lack of accountability in hiring and employment
practices, as evidenced in the Michigan case, the Census Bureau
is losing credibility with many Americans.

"What scared me about the whole incident was how totally
indoctrinated this kid was," reflected Balogh.  "This is the same
type of person who would think nothing of going door-to-door
confiscating firearms if instructed.  It was a chilling
experience."

"At first, he tried to convince us that all of these intrusive
questions were outlined in the Constitution," she added.  "If we
had been at my house, I could have pulled 

[CTRL] Breaking News!: White House employee blows whistle on Al Gore!

2000-06-20 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

Whistleblower

Breaking News!  White House employee blows whistle on Al Gore!!


6/19/00 - In a stunning sworn statement, a current White House
employee blows the whistle on Al Gore and his staff involving the
storage -- and handling -- of emails into and out from the vice
president's offfice complex -- emails that recently were
discovered were lost due to technical glitches.

The staffer, Howard Sparks, has been at the White House for a
number of years and in a four-page "declaration" obtained by
Insight, he swears not only to having warned Gore's staff as far
back as 1993 about making sure to back up emails on tapes and to
put into place other safeguards, he also reveals that he warned
co-workers that there were legal problems with the old "Big
Brother" computer system officially known as the White House
Office Data Base, or WHODB that Insight first revealed in
exclusive stories years ago.

What is remarkable about Sparks' sworn statements made to
Judicial Watch on June 19, 2000, is that he's still an employee
of the White House in the Office of Administration, or OA, where
he's worked since 1987 and holds the rank of a GS 14 and branch
manager.

Sparks' statement about Gore concerning emails is sure to fuel
speculation concerning the vice president's recent admissions
that his office "lost" or otherwise failed to capture about a
year's worth of emails under subpoena covering the 1997 to 1998
time periods.  Gore and staff said they didn't know there were
problems or that they had options other than the systems they
claimed to have used that, admittingly, failed.

But Sparks, in a statement sure to cause great peril to his
employment, says that Gore's top guy way back in 1993, Mike Gill,
dismissed such issues and assured the support staff of OA that
Gore  Company would take care of their email systems separate,
effectively, from that offered by carreer folks like Sparks et
al.

"Mr.  Gill did not care about these legal requirements and
essentially told us to get lost, that the vice president's office
would take care its own records," Sparks says in a four-page
sworn statement.

Gore's office has said that this glitch occurred because of a
problem with computers and a failure of support staff to have
established an adequate system to protect such messages on backup
tapes.

Sparks' stunning "testimony" however puts to bed this reasoning
as false given that he claims the Gore camp as far back as 1993
was warned that emails had to be archieved and that, to comply
with the law, they needed to be backed up with duplicate tapes or
other devices.  However, this was not done -- a fact acknowledged
recently by Gore himself and his own staff.

Sparks also said that, despite warnings from professional staff
at the White House, Bill Clinton  Company failed to establish
adequate safeguards to both provide and safeguard electronic
communications as required by law.

In essence, the revelations of Sparks to Judicial Watch confirm
previous statements obtained initially by Insigtht from other
White House staff -- both current and former -- that despite
warnings and systems in place, the Clinton/Gore White House
dismissed or otherwise evaded systems to provide for adequate
record keeping of records.

Moreover, Sparks' testimony as an existing and valued employee of
the White House will add substantial credibility to issues raised
by Judicial Watch and others, including the federal Campaign Task
Force and Congress, that the Clinton/Gore White House has engaged
in schemes to avoid proper record-keeping notwithstanding various
laws and orders by courts to maintain such records.

For example, eamils: Sparks and Sheryl Mills (a former manager at
the White House telecommunications office who was, effectively
fired for blowing the whistle about WHODB and as-yet unseen
long-distance telephone records the White House says don't exist)
among others, have filed sworn statements (see Insight's web page
for related stories), that could leade investigators to hordes of
documents that have been under subpoena but never turned over by
the White House.

As with "Project X" involving the White House emails fiasco that
Insight first revealed to the public, it can now be revealed for
the first time that yet another unknown repository of data
concerning White House emails and related communications exists
that federal investigators have no knowledge of, nor does the
White House.

Just as with the the so-called emails involving Project X and the
missing long-distance telephone records the White House has long
maintained don't exist or, at best, claims shows no information,
Insight has been told that there apparently exists a secret
database of previously unknown information that, technically,
should have captured EVERY single communication INTO AND OUT FROM
the White House, the Executive Office of the President, and the
offices of Vice President Al Gore.

This potential "unknown" trove of treasures is located in the
automatic back up tapes of 

[CTRL] More on Los Alomos: Insecurity complex (fwd)

2000-06-20 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

Washington Times-June 20, 2000

Insecurity complex

Frank J. Gaffney Jr.

 Energy Secretary Bill Richardson's performance on the Sunday
morning television talk shows reminded one of a man sentenced to
death and pleading for his life. In the wake of the furor
unleashed by the latest security meltdown at Los Alamos National
Laboratory, the former congressman and U.N. ambassador whined,
blustered, admitted errors, promised to reform and begged for a
stay of political execution.

 While the White House professes its full confidence in him,
Mr. Richardson clearly no longer enjoys that of his former
colleagues on Capitol Hill — several of whom publicly called over
the weekend for his resignation. More importantly, the secretary
does not deserve the confidence of the American people.

 To be sure, Mr. Richardson can rightly claim to have
implemented various initiatives to tighten up security in the DOE
nuclear weapons complex. These were long-overdue and obviously
needed, even before the allegations that Los Alamos physicist Wen
Ho Lee may have compromised the nation's nuclear "legacy codes."

The trouble is that these steps have been wholly inadequate
to correct what is increasingly being seen as a "culture" under
the present administration — a phenomenon that might be called
the Clinton-Gore insecurity complex — characterized by
inattention to, if not actual hostility toward, the most
fundamental principles regarding personnel, information and
physical security.

 In particular, Mr. Richardson has done very little to undo
the "denuclearization" and "openness" agenda embraced by
President Clinton's first energy secretary, Hazel O'Leary. And he
has repeatedly allowed job actions to be taken against those in
his department who have had the temerity to oppose them.

 Mrs. O'Leary made no secret of her hostility to her
department's most important function — maintaining the nation's
strategic deterrent and the thermonuclear weaponry that underpins
it. She recruited a gaggle of anti-nuclear activists to staff
senior DOE positions, some of whom remain in place today; others,
like Assistant Secretary Rose Gottemoeller, have been brought in
under her successors Federico Pena and Bill Richardson.

 Consider a few illustrative examples of the troubling
O'Leary-Pena-Richardson record at DOE:

 • On April 17, 1995, President Clinton lent his authority to
an "openness" initiative championed by Mrs. O'Leary, the current
White House chief of staff, John Podesta, and then-National
Security Council staffer Morton Halperin, with his signature of
Executive Order 12958. This order called for the automatic
declassification by April 17, 2000, of all documents containing
historical information that are 25 years or older.

 To be sure, Mr. Clinton's directive did not try explicitly
to override the 1954 Atomic Energy Act, a statute designed
permanently to protect nuclear weapons-relevant — or "restricted"
— data. The practical effect of Executive Order 12958, however,
has been greatly to abbreviate the time and necessarily to
diminish the care with which classified documents are scrutinized
prior to their release to the public. j Leading senators were
horrified to learn in 1998 that Restricted Data (and "Formerly
Restricted Data") governed by the Atomic Energy Act were being
hastily thrown out with the bath water as officials were not
being given the time or resources to declassify sensitive
documents on a page-by-page basis. Instead, it had to be done by
the box, if not by the shelf. Mr. Podesta, apparently infuriated
at any interference with the declassification initiative,
instructed Secretary Richardson to have Miss Gottemoeller
reprimand a senior DOE bureaucrat, Joseph Mahaley, for
encouraging Congress to intervene.

 • Mrs. O'Leary banned personnel badges that clearly
indicated whether the bearer had a security clearance and, if so,
how high. Her reasoning: Such badges were discriminatory. She
also ended the practice of requiring reports to DOE headquarters
about foreign nationals from "sensitive countries" who visited
the unclassified areas of the nation's nuclear weapons
laboratories.

 Among those who had the unenviable task of dealing with the
deleterious consequences of this sort of security malpractice was
Notra Trulock. Until the Cox committee's findings about Chinese
espionage at Los Alamos came to light, Mr. Trulock was chief of
intelligence at DOE. When his years of warning about the
penetration of some of the United States' most sensitive
facilities — warnings that were suppressed by, among other
superiors, Rose Gottemoeller, to whom the intelligence office
reported until a reorganization in 1998 — were publicly
vindicated, Mr. Trulock was demoted and ultimately driven to
leave the department.

 • Then in 1999, Assistant Secretary Gottemoeller took
another personnel action, this time against Edward McCallum, a
retired Army colonel who headed DOE's Office of Security and

[CTRL] MCCALL CARRIES CLINTON'S WATER

2000-06-20 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

New York Post-June 20, 2000

OFF THE RECORD: MCCALL CARRIES CLINTON'S WATER


TALK about your team players! State Comptroller - and
gubernatorial aspirant - H. Carl McCall was hard at work on
Hillary Rodham Clinton's behalf yesterday - and after what she
did to him on Saturday!

McCall, ex officio, is solely responsible for the health and
well-being of New York's gazillion-dollar public-employee pension
funds - though, like all of his predecessors, the comptroller
leaves the nuts-and-bolts investing to the highly qualified
technicians.

Still, nobody doubts Democrat McCall's qualifications for casting
a gimlet eye on Rep. Rick Lazio's good fortune in the stock
market a little while back.

It's the comptroller's motives that are raising eyebrows.

Yes, Long Island's entry in the U.S. Senate sweepstakes turned
himself a tidy sum (600 percent!) by exercising some stock
options in a company owned by political supporters.

You know - sort of like when Mrs. Clinton parlayed $1,000 into
$100,000 playing the cattle-futures market.

Except that what Lazio did was a) apparently perfectly legal, and
b) not part of a larger pattern of bogus behavior.

But a comptroller can't be too careful.

Says McCall in a letter to Securities and Exchange Commission
Chairman Arthur Levitt Jr.: "[At] minimum there is an appearance
of a conflict of interest or other impropriety [which] the public
has a right to know [about] ..."

Now, Off the Record must have been out to lunch when McCall
queried Levitt about Clinton's cattle-futures deal.

What? He never did?

Wow! What a surprise.

Anyway, in the interests of the public's right to know, Mrs.
Clinton and the comptroller's arch-rival for their party's 2002
gubernatorial nominee, Housing and Urban Development Secretary
Andrew Cuomo, were simultaneously kissing babies behind McCall's
back Saturday at the annual Albany County Democratic picnic.

New York's former First Son was giving away "Cuomo 2002: Reason
to Believe" T-shirts (demonstrating, as did his dad before him,
that the Irish don't have a lock on political blarney).

Obviously, there's a race in the offing.

So why is McCall carrying water for Clinton - whose support for
his rival surely will carry over to 2002? (If, of course, she
wins herself. Whew, this gets complicated!)

Because this year's Senate race is seen around town as a dry run
for 2002.

Democrats smell blood in the water (so do Republicans; that's why
so many of them are acting like Democrats). The object is to get
the logistical kinks worked out this year for 2002.

Besides, analysts say, a Clinton win this fall would be the
second consecutive statewide Democratic victory (Exhibit A being
Alfonse D'Amato) - after a series of debilitating, demoralizing
losses.

Helping Hillary beat Lazio wouldn't energize the troops for 2002
like dumping Rudy Giuliani, but it's better than the first lady
losing.

So McCall, an overtly political comptroller (see above:
Giuliani), lends the prestige of his letterhead to the task.

Whether Levitt - whose dad, Arthur Sr., held McCall's job a
generation ago - will play the same game remains to be seen.

But he got his job via presidential appointment.

Just like Andrew Cuomo.

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[CTRL] Billy Dee Show Guest! Exclusive Info. Release!

2000-06-20 Thread Nicky Molloy

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Subject: Billy Dee Show Guest! Exclussive Info. Release!


"BILLY DEE SHOW"
 EXCLUSSIVE INFO. RELEASE!


  Starting this Weds, June 21st on the BillY Dee Show, we will be airing
an exclusive interview with Mr. Donald Bossack.  Mr. Bossack claims
to have been a director of an unamed top  organization, that is above the
government, and more powerful then  NSA, was instructed by his
organization just a few months ago, to  go public, start slowly releasing
information  about ET's, and the  power struggle, and involvement of his
organization and others in the UFO cover-up!

This startling over one hour interview, may very well be a first time   for
NEW information never before known to the public or the UFO
   community.

Mr. Bossack claims that with the release of his second book, (his first
book coming out very shortly) which will coming out late this year, he will
divulge the name of the most secret organization to the public.  Along
with that, he claims that he will be releasing   documentation and other
forms of information to prove he is the real deal, and that will back up
who he claims to have been.

Is this all true?  Is Mr. Bossack actually going to release long held
secrets
to the general public about such areas that have been kept secret and
covered up for the past almost 5 decades?

Well, Mr. Bossack states, that he wants the public to at least just  think
about what he knows and is revealing on the Billy Dee Show!   He says he
realizes it will be hard to accept and believe, but his second book he
promises to come out with confirming proof of  who he is and was with the
secret organization.  Keep in mind, he   claims that the organization he was
with, has instructed him to release information to the public.

Dennis worked side by side with many alien races for over 25 years,
when he was the director of the unamed top secret organization.  And he
claims the only reason that the public has not heard of this organization,
or
has not been aware of it since it formed in 1929, is  that fact they have
never left any paper trials behind them, which has been the downfall of
many covert operations like the one he worked for.

  This special, and what may very well be, an exclussive interview   with
Dennis Bossack, may just shake up the public with Dennis's
new information.

   I asked Dennis if his organization was aware of the chem-trail spraying,
He replied that they know very well it is going on, and he could tell on the
show, that the spray is to inoculate the public against the up coming BIO
war, that he claims is just around the corner, and the reason for the
chem-spraying.

Plus, a lot more startling information, including the account of his wife's
father being murdered because he talked about the famous
Roswell 1947 UFO crash, that he was at!

Don't miss this incredible interview.  Make sure to listen in starting  this
Weds.  The show is pre-recorded, and will be able to be heard
thru June 29th.

You be the judge!  Is Dennis Bossack who says he was, or not!  Youwill
have to listen to the show to draw your own conclusions.

 The Billy Dee Show URL is
"http://members.fortunecity.com/billy_dee/ufoshow/bdeeshow.html"
This is a new URL, as we were having problems with the other
   server we were on!

Don't miss this 1 hour and 45 minute special program, including the
regular weekly "UFOSSI UFO News Reports".

 Thank You
 Billy Dee
Host

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[CTRL] THE BRANTON REPORT

2000-06-20 Thread Nicky Molloy

UFO Sky Searchers International
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want children viewing these very graphic reports! PARENTAL DISCRETION
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that for those of you who have not seen it, should make it a must to do so.
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[CTRL] Court Cases

2000-06-20 Thread Fred R. Saluga

Greetings:

I would appreciate any information that anyone could send me on Court
Cases that were a result of MK-ULTRA, Radiation Experimentations, Germ
Warfare Experiments that were conducted on civilians and any other court
cases as a result of Mind Control experiments. I would also appreciate any
other information that you could also send me on the above as to specific
projects.

I would like to thank you in advance for your time and help in this
matter.

Fred

Fred R. Saluga,
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Tallahassee, Florida 323414

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Re: [CTRL] Verbose Idiocy Exposed, was Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-20 Thread Nicky Molloy

Right again FWP.

We should also beware of 1: those who say they are Freemasons and are
lucifer worshipers.
2: Christians who are Freemasons.
3: Fakes (Pass The Loot TV) and New Agers who say they are Christians.
I think Jesus was pointing out beware those who are lukewarm too. I think he
meant those Christians who are all for the global religion - motivated by
world peace and sharing of natural resources.

I think if we really did a census of who is following the rules to be a
Christian or Jew they'd be few.

Nicky


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Subject: [CTRL] Verbose Idiocy Exposed, was Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed


On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Aleisha Saba wrote:

 I think the most important statement attributed to Jesus the Christ, was
 "beware of those who say they are Jews and are not".   Zionists - are
 these those who say they are Jews and are not?

There are Mormon Zionists, Lutheran Zionists and Evangelical-Protestant
Zionists. Some have their own churches designated as Zionist
churches. When is this bunch of narrow-minded, bigoted know-nothings on
the right who post the same tired old lines as we see, going to learn?
In the same Chapter of Rev. you are told to beware those who say they are
Apostles (Christians) and are not. Like who? How about Pope Willie The
Idiot?
FWP
(Learned Elder of Zion)

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[CTRL] Talmud Unmasked

2000-06-20 Thread Nicky Molloy

Subject: Talmud Unmasked


Index to Talmud Unmasked
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmudx.htm#Talmud Unmasked
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/natural.htm

The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians

By

Rev. I. B. Pranaitis

Roman Catholic Priest; Master of Theology and Professor
of the Hebrew Language at the Imperial Ecclesiastical
Academy of the Roman Catholic Church
in Old St. Petersburg.

St. Petersburg
Printing office of the
Imperial Academy of Sciences
1892





ANTIPHONE
PROLOGUE
DESCRIPTION OF THE TALMUD
SOURCE
PART ONE
THE TEACHING OF THE TALMUD CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
CHAPTER I - JESUS CHRIST IN THE TALMUD
Article I. - CONCERNING THE NAMES OF JESUS CHRIST
Article II. - THE LIFE OF CHRIST
Note About The Cross
Article III. - THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST
CHAPTER II - CHRISTIANS IN THE TALMUD
Article I. - The Names Given to Christians in the Talmud
Article II. - What the Talmud Teaches About Christians
Article III. - Christian Worship
PART TWO
PRECEPTS OF THE TALMUD CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
CHAPTER I - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE AVOIDED
Article I. - Christians Unworthy to Share With Jews
Article II. - Christians Are Unclean
Article III. - Christians Are Idolaters
Article IV. - Christians Are Evil
CHAPTER II - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE EXTERMINATED
Article I. - CHRISTIANS TO BE HARMED INDIRECTLY
I. By not helping them
II. By interfering in their work
III. By deceit in legal matters
IV. By harming them in things necessary for life
Article II. - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE HARMED DIRECTLY
1. Renegades to be killed
2. Apostates
3. Princes, especially the Prince of Rome (the Pope) to be exterminated
4. All Christians to be killed
5. Killing a Christian is an acceptable sacrifice to God
6. Heaven promised to those who kill Christians
7. A Christian may be beheaded on the most solemn festivals
8. The Messiah expected will be revengeful
9. Jewish prayers against Christians
10. Christian prayers for the Jews
11. Objective of Jewish prayers is the destruction of Christianity
12. Jews pray for a revengeful Messiah

.../PART ONE
.../PART TWO
.../Back to Index





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Re: [CTRL] ELIAN VISITED BY ONE OF HIS RESCUERS

2000-06-20 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

 The visit marked the second time Ciancio has met with Juan
 Miguel.  At the first encounter in early April while Elian was
 still in Miami, Ciancio, the father of two, changed his mind
 about keeping Elian in the United States and publicly broke with
 Dalrymple and the Miami relatives.

From what I've read, Ciancio never aligned himself with his cousin and
the Miami Gang, but always believed that Elian should be returned to
Cuba to the custody of his father.


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[CTRL] AICS: Amnesty E-News, June 2000 (fwd)

2000-06-20 Thread Yardbird

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AMNESTY E-NEWS: June 2000
Featuring the latest news from Amnesty International

We appreciate your support of human rights and are glad to be
able to share our most recent news with you once again. In this
issue:
- Pierre Sané, Amnesty International's Secretary General, speaks
out on Sierra Leone
- Human rights defenders intimidated in India
- Released prisoner of conscience thanks Amnesty
- Amnesty International Report 2000 released
- Apply for your Amnesty International VISA card

*** Pierre Sané, Amnesty International's Secretary General,
speaks out on Sierra Leone

Following a successful mission to Sierra Leone in May 23-26,
Pierre Sané visited Canada to urge Canadian government
officials and Amnesty members not to forget the people of
Sierra Leone as media interest fades. Mr. Sané spoke movingly
to Amnesty members gathered in Hamilton, Ontario of the
450,000 citizens of Sierra Leone who have sought refuge in
neighbouring Guinea and the children forced to serve in the rebel
army. He underlined the need for an international commission of
inquiry to investigate and bring to justice rebel leaders like Foday
Sankoh to send the message to future generals and politicians
that the world will hold them accountable for their actions.

Read Pierre Sané's compelling statement made in Freetown,
Sierra Leone on behalf of Amnesty International at
http://www.web.amnesty.org/crisis/sierral.nsf/index?openview.
To find out more about the link between the international
diamond trade in the current conflict in Sierra Leone and how
you can take action, visit http://www.amnesty.ca/SierraLeone.

Earlier this month, Emergency Alert (ELERT) participants wrote
letters to the Canadian government on the subject of Sierra
Leone. ELERT participants are on call to respond to actions on
an infrequent basis in response to incidences of mass human
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Thank you for making us stronger and more effective!

*** Human rights defenders intimidated in India

Women in India have been subjected to violent harassment and
intimidation by police, local authorities and company workers for
their peaceful demonstrations against the mega-dam system
being constructed in the Narmada river valley. The dams will
displace some 1.5 million rural people, who fear they will lose
their only means of survival - their land base and their
community ties. Find out why women are being targeted for
human rights abuses in the Narmada valley and how you can
help at http://www.amnesty.ca/actnow.

*** Released prisoner of conscience thanks Amnesty

Two Tunisian prisoners of conscience were released from prison
by presidential pardon on June 10 following an intensive letter
writing campaign by Amnesty members around the world. One
of the released prisoners, Abdelmoumen Belanes, immediately
called Amnesty International to thank the organisation's
members for their support and help. Like many prisoners of
conscience, they were jailed solely for having suspected links
with an unauthorized political party.

The Amnesty members who wrote letters on behalf of this case
did so through the Urgent Action Network. To find out more
about this network or to join it, visit
http://www.amnesty.ca/join/uanpage.htm.
Here are three Urgent Actions requiring immediate attention:
  - On May 28 in southern Peru, 45 peasants were arrested as
they went to vote in the presidential elections simply because
their names were the same as, or similar to, those on the arrest
warrants. They risk false charges, unfair trials and torture.
  - Executions and amputations continue in Saudi Arabia
at an alarming rate, usually following grossly unfair trials and
confessions obtained under torture, duress or deception.
  - In Brazil last week, a neofascist group continued to send
death threats to human rights defenders for their work
defending the basic human rights of members of minority
groups.

*** Amnesty International Report 2000 released

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issues around the world of concern to Amnesty International
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Re: [CTRL] Verbose Idiocy Exposed, was Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

2000-06-20 Thread Tenorlove

We should also beware of believing everything we read on the Internet.

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Re: [CTRL] Exclusive: Photos Reveal Elian's Day Out

2000-06-20 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

 Elian is, no doubt, a trophy for the Democratic Party and for
 Castro.

Just as he was a trophy for the Miami Gang of fanatical
anti-Castro-ites...


 Apparently, the Cuban government wants to pay homage to its pagan
 gods for its custody of little Elian.

 Yesterday Elian, his family and an entourage of Cuban officials
 were escorted to the Silver Spring, Md., home of a
 Cuban-American.

 The next-door neighbor forwarded NewsMax.com pictures of the
 event. The neighbor insists the Gonzalez party was participating
 in Santeria activities.

When Elian was in the clutches of the Miami Gang, news reports showed
many supporters also worshipping Santerian 'gods'and showed them
claiming that Elian represented one of their gods...

So it seems that no one camp has a monopoly on the practicing of this
religion...


 Santeria is an Afro-Cuban religion in which animal sacrifices are
 performed regularly to help the practitioner succeed in his
 endeavors.

The same thing can be said of Voodoun, Yoruba, and many other pagan
religions with African roots...

So what's the point?


 It has long being rumored that Castro and his thugs are involved
 in these practices that some refer to as voodoo.

Santeria is not 'voodoo'.  The word 'voodoo' is a corruption of the
word 'Voodoun', a separate religion.

The writer has obviously watched too many Hollywood movies, which
mistakenly combine practices of Voodoun, Santeria, Yoruba, and the
other Caribbean and South American pagan religions, in a
melodramatic -- and factually inaccurate -- depiction designed to sell
tickets.


 Another NewsMax.com reader also witnessed the Santeria conclave
 yesterday and reported, "Based on what I saw and heard, I believe
 the information provided by the next-door neighbor with respect
 to Santeria activity is reliable."

Interesting that they also don't mention the neighbor across the street
from the Miami Gonzalez's -- one of their supporters -- who turned her
front porch into a Santerian alter, which many of the thousands of
loiterers on the street outside dutifully made offerings to...

No animal sacrifices were SHOWN, but since, as has been pointed out
above, it IS an integral part of the religion, one would expect the
supporters of the Miami Gang also made such sacrifices.

Again, what's the point the writer is trying to make?


 He continued: "I can tell you that the sound of the drums was
 deafening at times, and that Juan Miguel was drinking heavily.

Gee...this 'neighbor' seems to have a strange ability to see into
someone else's house.


 The neighbor also pointed out a Santeria relic visible through
 the window of the house. All this activity took place under the
 noses of the U.S. Marshals Service and INS agents.

And why not?  Why do you imply the U.S. Marshall (learn to spell it
correctly) Service has a right to interfere with the LEGAL practice of
this religion?


 Perhaps it’s time to call an exorcist.

Why?  Do you feel that all non-Christian religions worship the
Christian devil?


 A NewsMax.com reader lives next door and took photos

Why?  To sell to the highest bidder?


 While most of the kids played in the backyard of the house, Elian
 was not allowed to be in the backyard for anymore than a few
 minutes at a time.

How does the neighbor, admittedly peeking thru his bedroom curtains
nextdoor, 'know' that Elian 'was not allowed' to be in the backyard
'for anymore [sic] than a few minutes at a time'...?

Was this Peeping Tom able to see ALL of the backyard?  Was he able to
see inside?  Perhaps there was a Sega game Elian didn't want to
leave

The picture shows absolutely nothing.  Elian is not in this picture.
We don't know if he is to the right, behind the bushes in the far
corner of the yard.  We don't know if perhaps he is behind the bushes
in the center of the picture, between the bushes and the shed.  Perhaps
he is playing with some other children in the shed.  Perhaps he is
behind the group of people under the tent.  Perhaps he is in the
sideyard on the other side of the house.  Perhaps he is in the sideyard
to the left of the photographer.

And yes, perhaps he IS in the house.  But the picture doesn't prove he
was 'kept' in the house.  He may have been inside momentarily to use
the bathroom.  Or to get a glass of lemonade.  Perhaps he got dirty and
needed to have his clothes changed.

Perhaps the day was very hot, and he preferred to stay in the
presumably air-conditioned house and watch cartoons.

And perhaps it was noticed the nextdoor neighbor was taking pictures,
so Elian was brought back inside.


"Even though he tried to get out several times, he was prevented
from so doing.

The picture doesn't show this.  It shows a little boy running.  Little
boys do this all the time.

It doesn't show anyone chasing him.  It doesn't show anyone restraining
him.

It looks very much like Elian is doing exactly what Elian wishes to do.


 It is a Santeria Deity, plain and simple. It used to be located
 by the main 

Re: [CTRL] Mind Reading Machine, TIME- JULY 1, 1974

2000-06-20 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

This research seems very advanced at first, but I was doing EEG
biofeedback in a  mental hospital in the 1970's and it was considered as a
rather routine procedure even then. You train the patient to recognize the
association between particular EEG patterns and states of consciousness
(eg relaxation). When the patient is successful it means that person is
actually controlling the machine as well as the brain waves. For example
the alpha waves associated with relaxation might turn on a light or
tone. Today the control over such brain waves is then used to control a
cursor. No difference except that what science is going for now is much
greater control over machines by thought control. It gets rather spooky if
you project it to its ultimate state of development.
FWP


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 Subject: [CTRL] "Mind Reading Machine," "TIME"- JULY 1, 1974

 "TIME MAGAZINE" (JULY 1, 1974- page 37)

 "MIND-READING COMPUTER"

 The experiment looks like some ingenious test of
 mental telepathy. Seated inside a small isolation
 booth with wires trailing from the helmet on her head,
 the subject seems deep in concentration. She does not
 speak or move. Near by, a white-coated scientist
 intently watches a TV screen. Suddenly, a little white
 dot hovering in the center of the screen comes to
 life. It sweeps to the top of the svreen, then
 reverses itself and comes back down. After a pause, it
 veers to the right, stops, moves to the left,
 momentarily speeds up and finally halts - almost as if
 it were under the control of some external
 intelligence.

 In fact, it is. The unusual experiment, conducted at
 the Standford Research nstitute in Menlo, Park,
 California, is a graphic display of one of the newest
 and most dazzling breakthroughs in cybernetics.* It
 shows that a computer can, in a very real sense, read
 human minds. Although the dot's gyrations were
 directed by a computer, the machine was only carriying
 the orders of the test subject. She, in turn, did
 nothing more than think about what the dot's movements
 should be.

 Brainchild of S.R.I. Researcher Lawrence Pinneo, a 46
 year-old neurophysiologist and electronics engineer,
 the computer mind-reading technique is far more than a
 laboratory stunt. Though computers can solve
 extraordinarily complex problems with incredible
 speed, the information they digest is fed to them by
 such slow, cumbersome tools as typewriter keyboards or
 punched tapes. It is for this reasons that scientists
 have long been tantalized by the possibility of
 opening up a more direct link between human and
 electronic brains.

 [Brain Waves]

 Although Pinneo and others have experimented with
 computer systems that respond to voice commands, he
 decided that there might be a more direct method than
 speech. The key to his scheme: the
 electroencephalograph, a device used by medical
 researchers to pick up electrical currents from
 various parts of the brain. If he could learn to
 identify brain waves generated by specific thoughts or
 commands, Pinneo figured, he might be able to teach
 the same skill to a computer. The machine might even
 be able to react to those commands by, say, moving a
 dot across a TV screen.

 Pinneo could readily pick out specific commands. But,
 like fingerprints, the patterns varied sufficiently
 from one human test subject to another to fool the
 computer. Pinneo found a way to deal with this problem
 by storing a large variety of patterns in the
 computer's memory. When the computer had to deal with
 fresh pattern, it could search its memory for the
 brain waves most like it. So far the S.R.I. computer
 has been taught to recognize seven different
 commands-up, down, left, right, slow, fast and stop.
 Working with a total of 25 different people, it makes
 the right move 60% of the time.

 Pinneo is convinced that his barely passing grade can
 be vastly improved. He foresees the day when computers
 will be able to recognize the smallest units in the
 English language-the 40-odd basic sounds (or phonemes)
 out of which all words or verbalized thoughts can be
 constructed. Such skills could e put to many practical
 uses. The pilot of a high-speed plane or spacecraft,
 for instance, could simply order by thought alone some
 vital flight information for an all-purpose cockpit
 display. There would be no need to search for the
 right dials or switches on a crowded instrument
 pannel.

 Pinneo does not worry that mind-reading computers
 might be abused by Big Brotherly governments or overly
 zealous police trying to ferret out the innermost
 thoughts of the citizens. Rather than a menace, he
 says, they could be a high-civilizing influence. In
 the future, Pinneo speculates, technology may well be
 sufficently advanced to feed a computer directly back
 into the brain. People with 

[CTRL] VOTE DIRECTLY ON THE ISSUES! return the power to the people by eliminating the career politician

2000-06-20 Thread Ronald L. Wilson





  
  

  
CHECK THIS SITE OUT:  
  
  http://www.freedomsend.com/mindfood/gov_bash.html
  
  All those citizens who complain that their vote doesn't count have a 
  point but the problem isn't vote tabulation. The problem is that our votes 
  are ineffective because we are not voting directly on 
  issues, we just vote for those who do. So let's change the system. Let 
  congress continue proposing bills but let the people vote directly on 
  which ones to adopt. Instead of fighting each other lets cooperate and 
  remove the teeth of our real enemy, the huge controlling maw of the power 
  hungry government bureaucracy, which is devouring our money and our 
  individual freedoms at a prodigious rate. Stop your negative thinking; do 
  not assume that changing the status quo will result in our current 
  conditions worsening. Is it so unreasonable to think that by placing 
  control directly into the hands of American citizens it might actually 
  improve our lives and our country's condition? Wow, what a concept! Is 
  your comfort zone so precious that you are willing to preserve it at the 
  expense of your individual freedoms? What is second best to freedom that 
  makes giving up your constitutional rights worthwhile to achieve it? 

  
  Redundency
  We have at our disposal the means to create change that was not available 
  when our government was formed but the attitude of the average American 
  citizen still remains in the past. Modern technology has made our present 
  representative system redundant and gives us the means to directly control 
  America's destiny at the national and even state level. Unfortunately, 
  millions of American citizens would rather remain dependent on an archaic 
  system and under the control of bureaucratic politicians rather than 
  invest in a modern system to change the governmental bureaucracy that 
  controls us. So why don't we use modern technology to cast our votes on 
  important national issues and return the power to the people by 
  eliminating the career politician middlemen? The only thing that prevents 
  modernization is the will of the people. Just because the technology that 
  we have today was not available when our governmental system was created 
  doesn't mean that we can't use it now to give us direct control of our 
  destiny. It is time to take control of our government and our future and 
  it would probably cost the same as a trip to Mars. It is time to throw off 
  the constraining shackles of governmental control or is being a slave of 
  corporate America and the past much more appealing? 
 So, what's it going to be America, more government 
  control disguised as a "feel good" trip to Mars or power to the people? 
  
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[CTRL] Fwd: IMAGE MERCHNATS AND CULTURE MAFIAS

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan





Dear Friends:

Attached herewith is the latest column "Straight-Talk" [Who cares about
reality? The images is all] by John Samuel which was published in
Humanscape in March 2000, which may be of interest to you.

Kindly acknowledge the same.

Thaking you,

Yours sincerely

Balram Khandare
For NCAS Team.



IMAGE MERCHANTS AND CULTURE MAFIAS

 by  *John Samuel




INTRODUCTION:
In Indonesia, devout Muslim women named Gayatri or Laxmi read the
Bhagvad Gita . In India too, Muslims and Hindus have
shared a culture of co-existence and assimilation. But reality is
buried. The image that the cultural mafia markets, legitimises and uses
to subvert societies and cultures would have us believe that all Muslims
are fundamentalists, all Christians are out to convert the world, and
all Hindus are fanatics
--
What is Ganesha doing in the drawing room of a devout Muslim? How come
Muslim women who pray to Allah five times a day are named Parvati,
Laxmi, Gayatri or Devi? Is this a social aberration? No, it's the norm
in thousands of Muslim households in Indonesia.

In one of several Muslim homes I visited during my recent trip to
Indonesia, I was pleasantly surprised to find a copy of the Bhagvad
Gita. The volume was not just sitting on a shelf, it was being
assiduously studied, with paragraphs underlined, and notes in the
margin.

Back in Pune, I live near an important Muslim shrine -- of Sadal Baba.
Every day I notice that it's not just Muslim devotees who visit this
shrine, but Hindus as well. The annual festival transcends the
traditional boundaries of both  religions. Likewise, in  my village in
Kerala I grew up on legends surrounding the ancient Syrian Christian
church as much as legends about the Devi of the ancient local temple.

This is the reality. The reality of co-existence, reconciliation and
assimilation. But increasingly such realities are being rendered almost
invisible. What matters most is  the image. An image that is
constructed, marketed, legitimised and used to subvert society and
culture. Cultural policing is a strategy used by most chauvinistic and
fanatical elements across the world. We hear a lot of criticism about
bulldozing market globalisation. But knee-jerk cultural reactions are
equally dangerous and counterproductive, and yet this is not a
phenomenon that is being discussed.

Bulldozing market capitalism and knee-jerk cultural relativism feed into
each other in paradoxical ways. One  significant aspect of the
information and media revolution is the predominance of images in
determining reality. There was a time when reality shaped the image.
Reality found expression in innumerable creative ways and was
transformed into powerful images and metaphors in poetry, plays,
painting, art and architecture. Now the process seems to have been
reversed. Images are increasingly shaping our sense and sensibilities.
And images are being used to interpret and influence reality rather than
the other way around. In the image-saturated streets of the globalised
economies, poetry is dead and buried. There are few novels depicting the
nuances of living people. Instead, there is a proliferation of images of
the future, coalescing into science fiction.
Playgrounds are deserted because children no longer want to run around
getting their legs and hands dirty. They prefer simulated football
matches and motorcycle races in a cybercafe. Markets thrive on images.
So when an Indian writer gets a Booker Prize, the book is marketed more
like a consumer product based on its image rather than on the merit of
the work. Images of huge advances and box-office hits determine the
reality of whether a novel is read, or a film
watched.

Ironically, the construction and marketing of stereotypical images are
the strategies that are used by  emerging cultural mafias across the
world. We call them cultural mafias because they use culture unethically
and unscrupulously as a means of amassing wealth and power to subjugate
peoples and society.

So when you hear  the word `Islam', it is the image of the Taliban or
Osama bin Laden that immediately comes to mind. Not images of the
liberal, tolerant and  indigenous Muslims of Indonesia, a country  with
one of the largest Muslim populations. When one hears the word `Hindu
nationalist', it is not the image of Vivekananda, Gandhi or Aurobindo
that is summoned. It is the vandalism and the hooliganism of a minority
of Hindu fanatics that comes to mind. The image  of the Christian in
India is likewise slowly being constructed as someone with western
loyalty, out  to convert anybody and everybody.

These images are constructed over time to conceal reality and manipulate
middle class 

[CTRL] OEN 6/20/00

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan

from:
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Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin
Grabbe/A
-

Single Currency


Greece Joins EMU


Now the euro will suck even more.

SANTA MARIA DA FEIRA, Portugal - In what was called a step toward modernity,
Greece formally won acceptance as the 12th member of the European Monetary
Union on Monday, and the Greek prime minister, Costas Simitis, said the move
would quickly result in lower interest rates, long-term price stability and
faster economic growth.

''With this historic step, Greece makes a big leap toward stability,'' Mr.
Simitis said at a summit meeting of the European Union here.

The admission of Greece, the European Union's poorest country, leaves only
Britain, Sweden and Denmark among EU members outside the single currency, the
euro. Denmark will hold a referendum in September on joining. Meanwhile,
Britain's Labor government remains deeply divided over the issue.

Greece will join the single currency on Jan. 1 with an official conversion
rate of 340.75 drachmas to the euro, its current central rate in Europe's
exchange rate mechanism.

The move was a triumph for the modernizing policies of Mr. Simitis, who has
rescued the Greek economy from high inflation and excessive debt and brought
it closer to the standards in most of the rest of Europe. He said that many
had doubted in 1994 that he could succeed, but that the Greek people had
proved they were willing to make sacrifices to achieve membership.

The prime minister cautioned that membership was not a panacea for all of
Greece's economic problems, adding that the country would have to continue
working hard to restrain spending, achieve a budget surplus, bring down
interest rates and boost growth.

The Bank of Greece's 14-day deposit interest rate is more than double the
European Central Bank's main refinancing rate of 4.25 percent while economic
output per head is on average 30 percent higher in the rest of the EU than in
Greece. And at an annual rate of 2.6 percent, inflation in Greece is still
much higher than in other European countries.

Greece sought to join the euro in May, 1998 when the first 11 members were
chosen, but failed to qualify. This time around, EU economy ministers found
it had cut inflation, public deficits and debts to within the ''convergence
criteria'' needed for membership in the single currency.

Because the Greek economy's small bulk in the single currency, and because
the decision Monday was expected, the news had little impact on the markets.

As expected Monday, EU finance ministers failed to unblock a deadlock over a
community-wide tax on investment income. The best that finance ministers
could achieve was a paper that ''could form the basis of future work and
discussion,'' providing the heads of government accept it.

The paper calls for talks with the United States, Switzerland and other
countries to determine whether they would be willing to join an international
effort to prevent tax evasion by people who put their money in tax-free
investment accounts abroad.

Britain balked at the idea of an EU-wide tax on the income from such
investments.

EU sources said Austria, late Monday, was threatening to veto an alternative
suggestion that called for governments to eventually agree to lift banking
secrecy laws to enable governments to exchange information about such nomadic
investments. Austria was furious over EU diplomatic sanctions and believed
lifting bank secrecy would require a change in its constitution and could
provoke a serious political crisis.

Because the question of untaxed investment incomes is linked with other
elements of a tax package, the failure to agree has a broad impact on policy
within the euro zone. With out an agreement, member states are unable to
implement measures preventing double taxation of businesses or proposals to
eliminate so-called unfair tax breaks to attract jobs and investments from
one country to another, for example.

Austria was in no mood to cooperate given the refusal of its 14 partners to
lift the pariah status they imposed early this year when the far-right
Freedom Party joined the government in Vienna. Prime Minister Antonio
Guterres of Portugal told the Austrian chancellor, Wolfgang Schuessel, that
nothing had changed to alter the decision since it was imposed in February.

And while no decision would be made at the summit, he said, Portugal would
search for a solution during the remaining 10 days of its presidency of the
EU. Once France takes over, on July 1, there seemed little hope of a solution
because of President Jacques Chirac's open hostility to the Freedom Party.

The Portuguese European affairs secretary, Francisco Seixas da Costa, said
that although Joerg Haider, the Austiran rightist, had resigned leadership of
the Freedom Party, he was ''back in business'' behind the scenes and behaving
like ''a back-seat driver'' in Austrian politics.

The Portuguese minister said Mr. Haider's 

[CTRL] Nato creates computer virus that reveals its secrets

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan

from:
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/18/stinwenws01024.html
Click Here: A
HREF="http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/06/18/stinwenws01024.h
tml"THE SUNDAY TIMES: NEWS/A
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June 18 2000BRITAIN
Nato creates computer virus that reveals its secrets

Adam Nathan



BUNGLING Nato scientists have created a computer virus "by mistake", causing
military secrets to find their way onto the internet.

The virus, called Anti-Smyser 1, was created by scientists at Nato's Kfor
peacekeeping force headquarters in Pristina, Kosovo.

They were seeking protection from virus attacks similar to those launched at
Nato by the Serbs during the Kosovo conflict. But the experiment went wrong,
and scientists accidentally unleashed the virus on themselves.

Last week it emerged that the virus, which plucks documents from the hard
drives of computers and sends invisible attachments to e-mails, recently
resurfaced at the Czech ministry of defence.
"Following an investigation into the leaks, I can now tell you that this was
started at Kfor by our own people and subsequently spread to Nato
headquarters and to other Nato members." said Jamie Shea, a Nato spokesman.

According to Shea, Nato first became aware of the virus in December. It is
now believed to be responsible for the leak in April of a restricted
nine-page document detailing the rules of engagement for Nato soldiers
serving in Kosovo, which appeared mysteriously on the computer screens of a
London publishing company.

The document, dated December 23, 1999, set out circumstances in which "deadly
force" could be used, instructed Nato troops to hand over war criminals
within 48 hours to the International Criminal Tribunal for the former
Yugoslavia and covered riot control, media transmissions and authorisations
for everything from attack helicopters to tanks.

An e-mail with the document attached, seen by The Sunday Times, came with the
following message: "Hello, I am Anti-Smyser 1. This virus is an alteration of
a virus which was designed to delete all files from one's c:drive on December
13."

At the time of the leak becoming public, Shea was quoted as saying: "These
are sensitive Nato documents," but last week he was keen to play down the
importance of the leak.

An investigation was ordered by Nato chiefs still smarting from American
allegations that a spy at Nato headquarters had leaked details of bombing
plans to the Serbs during the Kosovo conflict. The claim was dismissed by
Lord Robertson, the Nato secretary-general.
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[CTRL] AOL Reston Next to CIA

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan

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As, always, Caveat Lector
Om
K
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Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:621802"AOL Reston Next to
CIA/A
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Subject: AOL Reston Next to CIA
From: Tommy the Terrorist A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
om/A
Date: Mon, Jun 19, 2000 2:17 AM
Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well for Fuck's sake... I finally found SOME of the information I was
looking for on A HREF="http://anti-aol.org/knightheart/realm.html"http://ant
i-aol.org/knightheart/realm.html/A

AOL Reston is IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE HIGHWAY from the building that the
Federation of American Scientists www.fas.org identifies as the CIA
TASC building.  This puts it directly in the district that FAS had
identified for other spy-related industries.  This was rather
predictable, as high bandwidth fiber optics are expensive to lay...

For a satellite shot of AOL Reston, look to the map at
A HREF="http://www.fas.org/irp/overhead/ciaode.htm"http://www.fas.org/irp/ov
erhead/ciaode.htm/A
it should be about in the middle - probably #16
(listed on the legend as COMSEARCH)
Note that these buildings are aligned directly across the Dulles
expressway from the CIA building.  (note that TASC is not the only CIA
building in Reston...)

Use mapquest.com to look up 12100 Sunset Hills Road... note that it is
immediately north of the expressway, while 12100 Sunrise Drive is
immediately south of it

P.S.  I still could sure use the AOL Vienna address (they laid fiber
optic between the two, as you see below; there are CIA buildings in
Vienna but are they adjacent?  Likewise, there's "Dulles"... I don't
even know for sure where it or "22000 AOL way" really is defined as,
but it's packed with CIA and AOL operations and should be somewhere
adjacent to Reston.

A HREF="http://www.fas.org/irp/facility/ciaode.htm"http://www.fas.org/irp/fa
cility/ciaode.htm/A

CIA Office of Development  Engineering
12020/12030 Sunset Hills Road, Reston, VA 22090

The compound at 12100 Sunset Hills Road in Reston was publicly
identified at the time of its construction as belonging to CIA. CIA's
Foreign Broadcast Information Service acknowledges that its primary
operating location is in Reston, and it may be assumed that one of the
buildings on Sunset Hill Road is used by FBIS. Jeff Richelson has
written that CIA's Directorate of Science and Technology Office of
Development and Engineering, which is the CIA component of the National
Reconnaissance Office, has a new location in Reston, and it may be
presumed that the other building at this site houses this office. The
proximity of TASC [at 12100 Sunset Hills Road], which is a siginificant
participant in the imagery intelligence activities of DST/ODE would
seem to confirm this assessment. This evaluation is further supported
by the presence on the other side of the Dulles Access Road of a number
of contractors [such as Lockheed Martin and Intergraph] associated with
imagery intelligence, as well as the Defense Mapping Agency, which is
slated to be consolidated, along with DST/ODE, into the new National
Imagery and Mapping Agency.

With the completion of the consolidation of NRO to the Permanent
Facility in Chantilly, there has been a significant reduction in
activity at this facility.


A HREF="http://anti-aol.org/knightheart/realm.html"http://anti-aol.org/knigh
theart/realm.html/A

  Write: America Online
12100 Sunrise Valley Drive
Reston, VA 20191
Phone: 703.265.4670

A HREF="http://www.sprocket.com/~marty/AOL/AOLMilestones.html"http://www.spr
ocket.com/~marty/AOL/AOLMilestones.html/A

May 22, 1995 - First network connectivity between Westwood Center
Drive, Vienna (WW-1) and Reston (RES-1); via FORE Systems
ASX-200 ATM Switches, on a MFS OC-3 SONET circuit (155 Mb/s).
June 15, 1995 - At 5:42 PM EDT, the Reston data center (RES-1) begins
accepting X.25 calls into AOL - the first production traffic.

A HREF="http://www.isoc.org/inet98/proceedings/3e/3e_3.htm"http://www.isoc.o
rg/inet98/proceedings/3e/3e_3.htm/A
The Internet Society (commenting on the 19-hour AOL outage, BTW)
11150 Sunset Hills Road, Suite 100, Reston, VA, USA 20190-5321
Tel: +1 703 326 9880 Fax: +1 703 326 9881

A HREF="http://the.ausmac.net/security/textfiles/CuD/cud946"http://the.ausma
c.net/security/textfiles/CuD/cud946/A
The meeting will be held at the Sprint/Global One Building in Reston, VA
(12524 Sunrise Valley Dr.) This is immediately off the Dulles Toll-road;
only minutes from Tysons Corner


In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tommy the Terrorist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 AOL and the CIA have one thing in common: lots of technical facilities
 in Reston, Virginia and the neigbhoring towns.  I was trying to figure
 out which locations are in the same or adjacent buildings.  For
 instance, Proxicom, which has AOL as a client according to the
 Washingtonian, has its main HQ at 11600 Sunrise Valley Drive in Reston,
 which is right next to the CIA Directorate of 

[CTRL] (Atlantic Monthly) Skull and bones in George W.'s closet

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan

from:alt.conspiracy
As, always, Caveat Lector
Om
K
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Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:621794"(Atlantic Monthly)
"Skull and bones in George W.'s closet"/A
-Subject: (Atlantic Monthly) "Skull and bones in George W.'s closet"
From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL PROTECTED] /A
(Tomoyuki Tanaka)
Date: Mon, Jun 19, 2000 1:25 AM
Message-id: 394dd909$[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 i just read the (Atlantic Monthly) article "The skull and
 bones in George W.'s closet".

 pretty interesting.
 too bad the article's gone from A HREF="http://www.theatlantic.com"http://w
ww.theatlantic.com/A


 to me, the most interesting tidbits were:

 --- "the Yale admissions committee that voted to admit
George W., despite his poor record at Andover, included
three members (out of seven) who were Bonesmen" (Page 26)

 --- "In 1971, having been rejected by the University of Texas
Law School and needing a job, Bush called a Bonesmen",
who wasn't looking for anyone at the time, but George
W. got a job from him. (Page 31)

 --- "In 1977, when Bush formed Arbusto Energy, his first
company, he once again applied to Skull and Bones for
financial aid.  [details]" (Page 31)

 --- George W.'s 1998 gubernatorial campaign (Page 31)

 --- "At least forty-six Bonesmen or sons of patriarchs have
given approximately $1,000 apiece to his presidential
campaign -- the maximum allowed by law." (Page 31)


Subject: Deja.com: George W. "Temporary" Bush
A HREF="http://www.deja.com/=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=612637267"http://www.deja.com/
=dnc/getdoc.xp?AN=612637267/A

   Author:   Harry Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date:   2000/04/18

From Reliable Source, Washington Post, 4/18/00:
A HREF="http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33392-2000Apr17.html"http
://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33392-2000Apr17.html/A

According to the latest Atlantic Monthly, George W. Bush had
trouble thinking up his own nickname for Skull  Bones, the
Yale secret society to which he belonged in the 1960s, so he
ended up as "Temporary," the moniker fellow Bonesmen still
call him.

Bush's dad, meanwhile, was given the nickname "Magog"--which,
writes the Atlantic's Alexandra Robbins, "is traditionally
assigned to the incoming Bonesman deemed to have had the most
sexual experience."


I'd say Georgie "Temporary" Dimwit at this point but,
unfortunately, it's permanant. And George "Magog" Bush would
account for the quote below.

Harry

Ten years ago, at the 1988 Republican Convention, Hartford
Courant associate editor David Fink struck up a conversation
with George W.

"When you're not talking politics," Fink asked the vice
president's son, "what do you and [your father] talk about?"

"Pussy," George W. replied.
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[CTRL] Fwd: Israel Raises Nuclear Stakes

2000-06-20 Thread Aleisha Saba

Well I guess it is genocide time now in India.

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 TAKE OUT PAKISTAN'S "MUSLIM" BOMB?

MID-EAST REALITIES - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 6/20/00:
   The "peace process" may be dominating the headlines; but it is the "arms race"
-- including its nuclear component -- which is also transforming the entire Middle
East region.
   Even as the Israelis push the U.N. into protecting its northern border, and even
while intense attempts are being made to consolidate the gains made in restricting
the Palestinians while Arafat remains alive, the Israeli military is racing ahead
with major new weapons systems to insure regional domination and impose political
will.
   These first two articles were published last weekend in the London Sunday Times,
the same newspaper that more than a decade ago first provided the public details
of Israel's extensive nuclear weapons capabilities.
   And the third article, this one from Ha'aretz about the still growing nuclear
cooperation between India and Israel, only hints at the extensive military ties
the two countries have had for some time, including still secret joint attempts
in the past to destroy Pakistan's nuclear capabilities.


 FEARS OF NEW ARMS RACE AS ISRAEL TESTS CRUISE MISSILES

Uzi Mahnaimi and Peter Conradi

   London Sunday Times, 18 June:
   ISRAEL has test-fired cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear
   warheads, fuelling fears of an escalation in the Middle East arms
   race.

   Israeli defence sources revealed that the tests, involving two
   German-built Dolphin-class submarines, took place last month off Sri
   Lanka.

   The Israeli-made missiles, which were equipped with conventional
   warheads, hit targets at sea at a range of about 930 miles, they said.
   Israel is the third country - after America and Russia - to be able to
   fire nuclear cruise missiles from submarines.

   The tests will alarm Israel's neighbours and embarrass the German
   government. It paid for the £200m submarines to compensate for
   Iraq's use of German-made weapons against Israel during the Gulf
   war. A third submarine is expected to be operational within weeks.

   Despite moves towards Middle East peace, Israel remains concerned
   about its vulnerability to attack, particularly from Iran. Israeli
   intelligence believes Tehran will develop nuclear weapons within
   two years.

   Israel has never acknowledged its nuclear programme, revealed by
   The Sunday Times in 1986. However, its military planners are
   believed to have produced between 100 and 200 nuclear weapons.
   Sources said these included several 200kg warheads - each
   containing 6kg of plutonium - that could be mounted on cruise
   missiles.

   Israel already has land and air-based nuclear weapons. It now plans
   to equip each of the three submarines, which have the advantage of
   being almost impossible to detect, with four cruise missiles.

   Their ability to strike back after a non-conventional attack on Israel
   makes them a formidable deterrent. Under a system of rotation, two
   of the vessels will remain at sea: one in the Red Sea and Persian Gulf,
   the other in the Mediterranean. A third would remain on standby.

   The missiles could be fired only after approval by four people: the
   prime minister, defence minister, chief of staff of the Israeli army and
   the commander of the navy.

   The 1,720-ton diesel-electric submarines, which are among the most
   technically advanced of their kind in the world, can remain at sea for
   up to 30 days.

  ---

 ISRAEL MAKES NUCLEAR WAVES WITH SUBMARINE MISSILE TEST

   Uzi Mahnaimi and Matthew Campbell

   London Sunday Times - 18 June:
   JUST as President Bill Clinton is engaged in a bitter public debate
   about how best to defend America from missile attacks launched by
   "rogue" countries such as Iran, Israel's intensely secretive military
   preparations against the same threat have gone a stage further.

   Israeli defence sources claim the country has secretly carried out its
   first test launches from submarines of cruise missiles capable of
   carrying nuclear warheads. The launches last month from
   German-built vessels in the Indian Ocean were designed to simulate
   swift retaliation against a pre-emptive nuclear attack from Iran.

   While Israel's generals may be jubilant at the 

[CTRL] Mexican Computer Hackers working 'round the clock'

2000-06-20 Thread nessie

From: "Alberto M. Giordano" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Mexican Hackers to the Rescue of Democracy

Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:57:26 CDT





Narco News publishes early tonight with

a bulldog edition:



"Mexican Computer Hackers working

'round the clock' to Open Fobaproa

File"



http://www.narconews.com/hackers1.html



and related story:



"PAN ACCUSES PRI: NARCO

Calls for Investigation of Labastida Money"



The web of drug money, the Fobaproa bank

bailout and electoral fraud explodes as an

issue in the final stretch to the July 2nd

Mexican elections.



Right now, the future is in the hands of

the hackers...



developing



Al Giordano

publisher

The Narco News Bulletin

http://www.narconews.com/

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[CTRL] Black leader defends Confederate Flag, responds to violent attackers

2000-06-20 Thread Ronald L. Wilson








Black leader defends Confederate Flag,
responds to violent attackers
By Dana Davis, The Tribune

Confederate Flag defender, political activist, former President of the 
Asheville chapter of the NAACP and 52-year-old black man, H.K. Edgerton was 
recently accosted by two black men while standing by his confederate flag 
in front of Asheville High School. Though he was appalled by the alleged 
violent actions of 19-year-old high school drop-out Andre Dewayne and 
32-year-old Kevin Miller, he concedes, I know and understand their pain 
because they've been lied to for so long. A lot of people know nothing 
about that time in history.

Describing the event, Edgerton recalls, A man approached me quickly and 
when he got a foot away from me, he lunged at me, tried to grab my flag, 
spit on me, spit on my flag, bent my flag pole. Then another man, who was 
older, came. I thought he was going to stop him, but he joined in, striking 
and spitting on me and bending my flag even more. Edgerton said the 
incident left lingering injuries to his shoulder.

Though Edgerton empathizes with the anguish of the two men he asserts,
You 
have to know how to conduct yourselves. And give a man a chance to speak. 
Many people have heckled me and cursed at me. When giving speeches I've had 
blacks heckle me and they had to be removed in Columbia and Charleston, but 
never has anyone accosted me or my flag. It is my 1st amendment right to 
take a stand, and you must not violate my right to do so.

Edgerton blames the media and the educational system for creating the 
perception that exists today regarding southern history. This is a 
continuation about the lies of the Christian southern white folks during 
the Civil War. African Americans in this country don't know a thing about 
that war and that time. They see that flag and someone says slavery and it 
all falls apart and they think of Southern Christian white folks as being 
evil.

We can't let the stars and stripes get away that easy. Never were the 
stars and bars flag flown over a slave ship. And you want to know why? 
Because it's a Christian Battle Flag that was emulated after St. Andrew, 
Jesus Christ's first disciple. In 69 A.D. in Petro, Greece -- now a part of 
Russia -- St. Andrew was jailed because of his teaching and preaching of 
Jesus Christ, his Lord and Master, and he was told he was going to be 
crucified on the cross. He begged that persecutor not to nail him to that 
Latin cross in the shape of T because he was not worthy of being
punished 
the way Jesus Christ had been nailed. So he begged to be tied in an X-shape 
to the cross and the persecutor did what he asked him to. That X is a Greek 
symbol to CH, the first two letters in Christ's name. When St. Andrew was 
on the cross he continued his teaching of Christ and all the folks started 
believing him and for three days he remained on that cross teaching and 
after three days they begged the persecutor to take him down and when he 
did, St. Andrew came down off that cross and died, and he became a martyr 
and a saint.

When (Civil War Confederate ) General Beaureguard decided they needed 
another flag, he chose the cross of St. Andrew for these reasons. Most 
Southerners, in fact, did not want to do away with the stars and stripes 
because they didn't feel they had done anything wrong. They thought it was 
the north who was eradicating the Constitution.

And as for President Lincoln, our American hero, who signed the 
Emancipation Proclamation. In march of 1861 Abraham Lincoln called all 
those black leaders in his office and he told them -- Even if I set you 
free you'll be inferior. You need to get out of the country because I will 
colonize you. Lincoln proposed the 13th Amendment, being the only President 
ever to do so. That amendment said Congress would never have the power to 
interrupt an institution of state. He told the southerners they could keep 
the slaves if they paid the North a 42% tariff. The South agreed to a 10% 
tariff but not 42%. So, who I am supposed to blame the institution of 
slavery on?

At that time, one of the richest men in the world, John D. Rothchild told

his family to put all their money into the Confederacy and described 
Lincoln as a crook. He said the slaves in the south were better off than 
the slaves in the north who had to work for next to nothing in the cotton 
mills.

The attack on the Confederacy doesn't get the attention it deserves.
These 
blacks today have no idea what took place back then. (Blacks) earned a 
place of dignity in that war. If it wasn't for Africans that war would have 
lasted four days, not four years. We made all of the implements of war, we 
fought, we participated -- not one slave insurrection happened during that 
period of time. They did not have whips and guns forcing them to be there. 
God and his infinite wisdom brought these people here. He brought about a 
love between master and slave that has never happened before. If you 

[CTRL] [7] The Thousand Conspiracy

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan

The Thousand Conspiracy - Secret Germany Behind the Mask
Paul Winkler
Charles Scribner’s Sons©1943
New York
381 pps. – First Edition – Out-of-print
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CHAPTER VII
PRUSSO-TEUTONIA-ALIAS NAZILAND

AFTER JANUARY 30, 1933, every one of Hitler's decisions, without exception,
accorded with Junker interests. No act of his can be found which in the
slightest degree harmed these interests. From the moment he took the reins of
power no one ever spoke of the Osthilfe scandal again (although previously it
had often been stirred up by Nazi Deputies in the Reichstag) or of
"colonization" on Junker land. The different antiJunker slogans of early
Nazism were definitely  buried by Hitler. The Junkers and Hindenburg breathed
a sigh of relief.

This business disposed of work began in earnest on the Prusso-Teutonic scheme.

The entire plan carried out by Hitler corresponded point by point with
Prusso-Teutonic intentions. The details are well known. Decree-laws gave
Hitler dictatorial powers all along the line. This meant the end of what
still survived of the representative system and individual liberties in
Germany. These transformations had been planned for. It was only the methods
of accomplishing them that were original and bore the Hitlerian stamp. The
burning of the Reichstag on February 27, 1933, was arranged to make people
believe that the Communists were responsible for it and make them admit that
it was necessary to vest unlimited power in Hitler to save the country from
Communism. In contrast to the previous regionalistic character of Nazism,
Hitler abolished every trace of autonomy in the various States, and
subordinated all Germany to the domination of Berlin. The masses, deprived of
their leaders by the Felime, did not protest.

Making use of his dictatorial powers Hitler took the neces-sary steps to
stand in well with every part of the PrussoTeutonic group. He introduced
measure after measure to satisfy the Junkers and the big industrialists. He
flattered the Reichswehr too and tried to make it forget that Schleicher, the
man of the Reichswehr, had been replaced by himself as the head of the
government. As for Schleicher, the latter's grudge was against von Papen
rather than Hitler-because he believed it was the former who had been
principally responsible for his downfall. He never realized that, in the last
analYsis, everything had been organized by Hitler.


Denying the Past

But Hitler had a revolutionary past which might be embarrassing to the
interests he was now serving. He had hoisted himself to power by fulminating
for years against existing power, including the Prusso-Teutonic forces.

Originally Hitler was simply an agitator without a definite purpose, ready to
ally himself with any group of interests, if he saw some advantage to himself
from such an alliance. Among his faithful followers were sincere men like
Gregor Strasser, who had strong German nationalist feelings but moved in a
direction opposed to Prussianism. They ardently desired a German Federation
free of any Prussian tinge. While the National Socialist party had had its
headquarters in Munich, it had often displayed a Bavarian-inspired regional
resistance to the centralizing pressure of Prussia. From time to time also,
the Nazi party had appeared to be a movement with socialistic tendencies,
opposed to Junker feudalism. Roehm's views were of this character, though
clearly he was Strasser's moral inferior. But Hitler, who did not feel
constrained by any basic principles and who made allies where he could (or
rather, wherever his alert opportunism might lead him), surrounded himself
also with men like Goering, the Prussian officer type; like Alfred Rosenberg,
who dreamed of a new Prusso-Teutonic religion; and like Goebbels, who would
have sold his soul to anyone, but who concluded that selling it to the
Prussians would be most profitable.

Despite his numerous ties with Prussian interests, for a long time Hitler
would eat at anyone's table. His definite alliance with the Prusso-Teutonic
forces was not consummated until early in 1933, Without it he would never
have been able to accede to power, nor could he have risen to international
importance. He would never have been more than a picturesque demagogue in the
arena of internal German politics. Hitler was never a world threat until the
support of Prusso-Teutonic forces gave him the key to power.

The left wing of his party, Roehm and his three million SA, had taken his
earlier promises seriously. These folk no longer understood what was
happening. They had believed that the hour of revolution had struck, and
demanded changes which might be extremely annoying to the Prussian clique
Hitler was now planning to serve. Roehm went so far as to demand control of
the Reichswehr by the SA and for himself powers superior to the generals.
Decidedly, he did not yet understand what was going on.

The man in Hitler's entourage who. had "understood" from the very beginning
was Goering. He had always 

[CTRL] Professor Peter Dale Scott, Phd.- 6/10/2000 - MP3 audio file - now available

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan

You  can download Professor Peter Dale Scott's recent address at the
CIA-Drugs Symposium in MP3 audio. Psst. pass it on.

This can be reached at www.ctrl.org   or   www.ctrl.org.cia-drugs  or
www.ctrl.org/ciadrugssymposium

A fact filled, awesome talk of about 70 minutes including question/answer
dialogue.

For those who care to try and understand the world we all live in.

Om
K

Tis a large file about 16k. takes a good hour and half to download at
57kbpps. But it is worth it.
MHO
Om
K

Shall be adding others.

Om
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[CTRL] NEURAL MANIPULATION

2000-06-20 Thread Mr.Rodriguez

Mills?
CHAPTER 13- ["The Mind Controllers"- Dr. Armen Victorian] In the 1960s, the US
Embassy in Moscow fell under attack from a microwave beam, targeted at the
building by the Soviets. This beam was used with the aim of controlling the
minds and actions of those within the embassy. The discovery and the
Communists were attempting such a sinister form of neural manipulation
prompted an urgent inquiry in the US and what follows draws from declassified
records on Operation Pandora (see later) released to me on DECEMBER 19 1994
after a Freedom of Information Act appeal filed in 1991. Pandora was the US
reaction to the events uncovered in Moscow. In 1961, Allan H. Frey provided
evidence that the perception of sound can be induced in hearing as well as
deaf humans by irradiating the head with low-power density, pulse modulated,
UHF (ultra high frequency) electromagnetic energy; a type of radio wave. It
had previously been shown that the UHF energy of wavelenghts smaller than 10cm
could produce a heating of the skin which could cause severe burning. Since
then, work by Frey and others has shown that this same microwave energy is
capable of producing selective tachy-cardia (a speeding up of the heartbeat)
and brachycardia (a slowing down of the heartbeat). In 1973, S.M. Bawin et al,
provided further evidence by low power VHF (very low frequency) energy.
[Bawin, S.M., Gavlas-Medici, R.J., and Adey, W.R., Effects of Modulated VHF
fields on specific brain rhythm in cats', in 'Brain Research,' Vol. 58, 1973,
pp. 365-384]. Studies have repeatedly shown since the 1950s that behavior can
be modified with auditory-cortex stimuly, peripheral heating, brain rythm
modification and many other biological application of microwaves. The energy
in question is used in radar which is capable of detecting a single insect at
a distance of over 1 kilometer and at an altitude of 600 meters. It is
therefore possible that radar-type energy could be used as a weapon focusing
either on an individual or on a mass of people. ['Microwave US-USSR', Vol. VI,
July-December 1976, p.4, Office of Security, US Department of State.] Although
the use of electromagnetic (EM) energy in bio-sciences is considered to be a
relative recent development, bio-electric research dates back at least as far
as 1786 when Galvani and Volta were arguing about electricity stimulating
frogs' legs. It was not until 1908 that the term 'diathermy' for the heating
of body tissues by high frequency current was coined by Von Zeyneck, the
pioneer in the use of direct electrodes. [Jaski, Tom and Susskind, Charles,
'Electromagnetic radiation as a tool in the life sciences', in 'Science',
vol.133, no. 3451, 1961, pp 443-447]



But the real problem was made in the 1920s when F. Cazzamali, an Italian
physician, discovered that he could induce hallucinations in the minds of
highly suggestible individuals, and claimed to have detected radiation from
the mind. His work, 'Radiating Brain', was translated in 1965 by the Foreign
Technology Division of the Wright-Patterson Air Force in the United States.
The Dutch physician, W.A.G. van Everdingen made further progress during
1938-43. He observed that microwave irradiation affected the heart action of
the chicken embryo in relation to its glycogen (a form of protein) level.
[Ibid.]



In 1946, J.E. Nyrop recorded specific effects on bacteria, viruses and tissue
cultures of exposure to short-pulsed EM radiation with the heating effect
deleted. [Ibid.] These early pioneers in biological manipulation with EM
energy paved the way for a new era of more detailed research. But it was not
until 1961 that the work of Dr. Alan H. Frey convinced the scientific
community that the radio-frequency (RF) energy could indeed do more than heat
a tissue culture.



The Pandora files also make reference to work on the direct stimulation of the
brain with electrodes. There was interest in how a reaction could be
artificially produced, dependent upon the region stimulated. Walter Hess, a
Swiss physiologist and Nobel Prize winner, was the first to pioneer the
implantation of electrical wires in animal brains in order to record
electrical activities. He found that the hypothalamus and associated neural
structures located in the rim of the brain stem, the limbic system, controlled
emotional and aggressive behavior. [Edson, Lee, "The psyche and the surgeon',
in New York Times Magazine, 30 September 1973.] It was also the site of
appetite, and sexual behavior, tied to the sense of smell.



W. Penfield, a neurosurgeon, took Hess' findings one step further. He used
electric currents to stimulate the cortex of his patients' brains while brains
were exposed during surgery. The results were astounding. Epileptic patients
would re-experience complete episodes from their past. They were so real that
it was as if they were literally re-living them. If the same spot was
stimulated twice, the entire sequence would repeat itself from the beginning.
[Steven, Leonard A., 

Re: [CTRL] alleged clergy abuse

2000-06-20 Thread Smart News

Hi !

Below please find the article "O'Shea's alleged victims describe pressures."

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

This may be triggering for survivors of abuse.

quote from
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/archive/2000/06/16/NE
WS7572.dtl

"by JIM HERRON ZAMORA
OF THE EXAMINER STAFFJune 16, 2000

Former altar boys testify ex-priest used alcohol to get sex

Several former altar boys testified that they felt confused and unable to
resist the sexual advances - and subtle pressures - of a San Francisco
priest, who has since been defrocked and charged with 224 counts of child
molestation.

The alleged victims, now adults, said in testimony to the San Francisco grand
jury in April that they were confused adolescents who succumbed to pressures
and temptations of their priest"

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Re: [CTRL] Exclusive: Photos Reveal Elian's Day Out

2000-06-20 Thread William Shannon

In a message dated 6/20/00 3:29:01 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The next-door neighbor forwarded NewsMax.com pictures of the
 event. The neighbor insists the Gonzalez party was participating
 in Santeria activities. 

So what??? Not that I believe this to be true...dubious source...but if it is
it's no more bizarre than practicing Catholic rites, or protestant
weirdness...a little snakehandling or poison-drinking anyone???

Bill.

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[CTRL] South Korea Asks US Status Change Re: North Korea

2000-06-20 Thread William Shannon

South Korea to ask US to remove North's terrorism status

Tuesday, June 20, 2000

ASIA | In an effort to build upon a reunification effort with Stalinist North
Korea, leaders in democratic South Korea said they will press the United
States to remove Pyongyang from a list of countries that sponsor terrorism.

According to the Korea Herald on Tuesday, officials in Seoul said that the
move is aimed at facilitating international support for the drive to rebuild
the North's battered economy.

One South Korean government official, speaking to the newspaper on the
condition of anonymity, said President Kim might hold talks with U.S.
congressional leaders to persuade them to remove Pyongyang from the terrorism
blacklist, compiled annually by the State Department and based on
intelligence from the CIA and other agencies.

"I understand that U.S. President Bill Clinton wants President Kim, who is
popular in the U.S. Congress, to persuade congressional leaders himself," the
official said.

He added that North Korea is in need of financial contributions from
organizations like the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development
and the International Monetary Fund.

The official said Pyongyang had to be removed from the U.S. list before it
qualified for the international aid.

Without specifying, the South Korean official said that the North now
satisfies five of the seven requirements to be dropped from the list.

The alleged diplomatic push comes at the same time that Secretary of State
Madeleine Albright mandated that the State Department would no longer refer
to adversarial governments as "rogue nations" and instead would call them
"nations of concern."

North Korea -- along with Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, and a few others -- is on
the list.

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[CTRL] E.U. Must be federal state w/ elected president

2000-06-20 Thread William Shannon

EU 'must be federal state with elected president'
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Strasbourg
 THE European Commission is considering radical plans for an elected
president and a federal constitution to bind the European Union closer
together before the next round of enlargement.
Michel Barnier, the European commissioner in charge of reform, has given
warning that the EU will slide into crisis, becoming "unpopular", "useless"
and "incapable of decision-making" unless Europe's leaders rise to the
challenge and draft a visionary document as the basis for the next
constitutional treaty in December.

At a meeting with fellow commissioners in Strasbourg, M Barnier said the
status quo was not sustainable. The only question was whether the EU should
be a "federal" state in the conventional sense, modelled on the United States
or Germany, or whether it should pursue the goal of political union through
other means.

"Everybody knows that Europe's current institutions can't work with 30
countries," he told The Telegraph after the meeting. "If we can't find the
courage to change the mechanism, we're going to face a general blockage of
all EU activity. The British Government sees this too, and I'm confident that
they will accept the need for fundamental change in the end."

M Barnier insisted that he was speaking in a "personal capacity" at the
meeting, but his proposals have acquired a quasi-official status, as part of
the commission's working text for this year's Intergovernmental Conference.

The plans buttress ideas put forward last month by Joschka Fischer, the
German Foreign Minister. M Barnier, a neo-Gaullist who has served as France's
minister for Europe, conceded that Britain would have "serious difficulties"
with his proposals for an abolition of the national veto in "all areas of
policy".

Under the plans, Britain would lose the veto in the fields of gender and race
discrimination, immigration and asylum and all tax policy and social
regulation "necessary for the proper functioning of the single market".
"What's the point of creating an economic world power if we deny it the means
to co-ordinate fiscal and social policy?" asked M Barnier.

Britain has already drawn a line in the sand on the question of majority
voting, with a pledge to fight to preserve its veto over taxation, defence,
immigration and border controls. The Government has the power to block all
treaty changes but risks incurring the wrath of its EU partners if it uses
this too aggressively.

Francis Maude, the shadow foreign secretary, said the Barnier proposals
showed that "the EU superstate agenda is alive and well" and the Government
must "stop pretending".

M Barnier said the creation of the euro entailed a "federal logic", arguably
requiring a new federal structure with a directly elected president and a
bicameral parliament with full legislative powers. It would also have a
"supreme court" to act as guardian of a "simple, clear constitution" that all
the children of Europe could learn by heart.

The revamped commission should have a directly elected president to give it
"democratic legitimacy", with a vice-president in charge of foreign policy
and defence and powers to dissolve the European Parliament.


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[CTRL] Drudge,Goldberg Co.-Bad Sports?

2000-06-20 Thread William Shannon

The new gatekeepers
Facing scrutiny for their own peccadilloes, Internet loose lips Matt Drudge
and Lucianne Goldberg undergo a Kafkaesque transformation.


- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Joe Conason

June 20, 2000 | Hypocrisy and cant infect the political spectrum from end to
end, especially when the subject is sexual morality. But rarely has there
been a display of indignation as phony and self-serving as the recent
campaign by Matt Drudge, Lucianne Goldberg and their cronies to suppress "The
Insane Clown Posse," a book by New York writer John Connolly that threatened
to expose titillating secrets of various figures on the Clinton-hating right.

Until Talk Miramax Books canceled Connolly's contract just over a week ago,
there was a deep sense of foreboding reflected in Drudge's dispatches about
the unfinished manuscript he had somehow obtained. How desperate were Drudge
and company to stop Connolly from publishing his still-unfinished work?
Evidently desperate enough to willingly embarrass Kenneth Starr, Supreme
Court Justice Anthony Kennedy and author Christopher Buckley by posting
canards about them that allegedly appear in the manuscript.

Not having examined that purloined document, I have no way of judging whether
it should be published. Nor can I say whether the information Connolly was
pursuing deserves to be publicized, or represents instead an unwarranted
inquisition into matters that ought to remain private. But what remains
striking about this episode is how quickly the freewheeling 'wingers mutated
into defenders of absolute privacy when their own peccadilloes faced
exposure.

What did stand exposed were the flexible ethics of a few conservative
activists and commentators. Even Drudge's own rather nihilistic notion of
press freedom gave way to his urge to protect his cronies. Not since Larry
Flynt offered a $1 million reward for proof of adultery by Republican
lawmakers have we seen such deep yearning on the right for a return to
old-fashioned civility and journalistic responsibility. (That mood quickly
passed, of course, and we were back to dirty business as usual.)

Coincidentally, just a few days before Drudge posted his first item about the
Connolly book, I listened to Lucianne Goldberg express her own very casual
attitude toward truth and consequences. We were discussing the question of
privacy and journalistic standards in the Internet era on a panel at the
annual convention of the Association of Alternative Newspapers, where I
insisted that Net media ought to be held to the strict reporting and libel
standards of print and broadcast journalism.

Goldberg demurred at any such strictures, cheerfully admitting that she had
quite recently published an unchecked, damaging and, as it turned out, wholly
false rumor on her Web site about someone she dislikes. She wanted it to be
true, so she posted it. After all, she explained, her false item had been
based on a "true rumor," meaning that someone had said it somewhere at some
time. In short, she had perpetrated a gross smear, which later showed up in
the pages of the New York Post.

Such are the moral habits acquired by the hard-bitten literary agent over the
years, ever since her brief employment in 1972 as a snitch for the Nixon
White House, spying on reporters, Secret Service agents and others aboard
George McGovern's campaign plane and turning in daily reports about alleged
sexual affairs and drug use. If she honors any limits whatsoever in political
warfare, it isn't obvious what those limits might be.

Flash forward to the blitz against Connolly, who apparently was tracking down
dozens of "true rumors" (and perhaps even some true facts) about Goldberg,
Drudge, Ann Coulter and others of the same anti-Clinton ilk. Although he
hadn't published anything yet, they were all outraged that he dared to
research or even discuss their private behavior -- rumored, alleged or
possibly true.

Somehow the subjects of Connolly's scrutiny regarded his project as different
from their own assaults on the president, his family and friends during the
past eight years. That was patriotic duty while this was "slash and trash," a
"sex witch hunt" and "defamatory slander" reeking of "scorched earth." They
were especially enraged about Connolly's employment of a private detective to
assist him in his research.

Scorched-earth tactics and sexual witch hunts are always deplorable, of
course. Yet this time it wasn't easy to sympathize with the scandal-singed
complainants, if only because they've all been spreading inflammatory
material and playing with matches themselves for so many years.





Consider the unappetizing example of David Bossie, the right-wing researcher
who worked on both the Senate Whitewater Committee and the Dan Burton-led
Government Reform and Oversight Committee in the House. According to Drudge,
Bossie was distressed because Connolly had supposedly promoted rumors that he
is gay. This is the same Bossie whose debut in national politics involved

[CTRL] [RMNEWS] NSC WARNS OF ELECTRONIC PEARL HARBOR TO SPARK MAYHEM IF WAR BREAKS OUT (fwd)

2000-06-20 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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OUT


From Rayelan, Publisher of RMNews

This "Electronic Pearl Harbor" story smells like a good cover
story --

First it was the Los Alamos hard drives and countless other
records that were lost due to the "fire". Now we are told that a
"foreign country" is probing our networks getting ready to create
electronic mayhem if war breaks out.

WAR??? What war is about to break out??? Has the United States
told its citizens anything about an imminent war? Is this the
first warning from our goverment that we are about to enter a
war? How long before Clinton committed the United States to the
war in Kosovo did America find out something was going on there?
A week -- two weeks? Did we get rumblings? Is this story a
rumbling of a coming war?

Where will the war break out?  the war that Richard Clarke, a
National Security Staffer and top aide to President Clinton, is
referring to?  He says that unspecified hostile countries were
probing U.S. computer networks for ways to spark mayhem if war
broke out.  "This is not theoretical. It's real,"  he said

What wars are threatening to burst forth on our front door? We
have the border war in Arizona, there is a war in the Chiapas
area of Mexico, there is something brewing in Central America and
South America is erupting in many different places.

There are several articles on Stratfor that support my feeling
that if there is a war looming in the fading months of Clinton's
regime, it will come from South of our border ---

The Latin American Left Re-emerges


http://www.stratfor.com/SERVICES/GIU/FORECAST/decadetocome/latindecade2.asp

Colombia Creates Second Guerrilla Sanctuary

http://www.stratfor.com/SERVICES/giu2000/042700.ASP

The following URLs are the world wide hot spots that Stratfor has
pinpointed -- Colombia is number 10 -- It is the only hotspot
identified that is in the western hemisphere.

http://www.stratfor.com/hotspots/default.htm?section=7

Former Stratfor hotspots include North Korea --

http://www.stratfor.com/hotspots/archive.htm

Even though it appears that North and South Korea are trying to
reach some sort of resolution to their 50 year war, reports from
RMNews Sources state that North Korea is poised and ready to
invade South Korea. Stratfor also agrees that while "North Korea
opens up diplomatic initiatives ...  (it)  continues to pose
threats to regional stability."


Which one of these hot spots is going to suddenly burst into a
war that will trigger an electronic Pearl Harbor for the purpose
of causing mayhem in the United States? Will this happen this
summer? Will Clinton somehow try to paylay this into martial law
-- which should be called "martial rule" because all "LAW" will
be suspended!

Coming on the heels of the Los Alamos debacle -- this smells like
a Clinton Scheme to shift the focus from the greatest loss of
national security secrets in the history of the nation -- to a
"hot" war and terrorist attacks by hostile forces in other
words -- A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER!!!

How many more times are the American people going to allow our
goverment to create wars, bombings, and terrorist attacks, and
then use the power of the government controlled media to whip up
anger at the aggressors and bring the nation together behind the
President. It doesn't matter what President.

George Bush used Kuwaiti infants being thrown on the floor by the
invading Iraqis to whip up the needed patriotism which allowed
him to send our boys into a war that has never stopped for them
 i.e.  Gulf War Syndrome.

Clinton did the same thing by talking about all the women who
were raped and the tens of thousands of dead Albanians who were
buried in mass graves after being butchered by the evil Serbs.

Both of these were later shown to be lies... but by the time the
American public put two and two together and realized they had
been duped again -- the wars were over. Serbia and Iraq were
bombed back into the stone age -- and America declared victory
and went back to football.

Get ready -- The following article makes me think that very soon
-- we are going to have another slight of hand charade performed
on us, and our exhausted and depleted army will be shipped out to
another foreign country.  Which one will it be this time?
Arizona? Idaho? Colombia? Mexico?

But then again -- maybe the Electronic Pearl Harbor is just a way
of hiding all the other national security secrets that are now in
the hands of our enemies. If all our computers crash and the
goverment loses all its documents, how can anyone every prove we
even HAD the national security secrets that were stolen by our
friends and enemies alike... with help from the White House?

Will there be a Clinton legacy? If the United States survives, he
will go down in history as the man who single handedly 

[CTRL] The Real 10 Commandments

2000-06-20 Thread William Shannon

The Real Ten Commandments
By Richard Carrier

 I keep hearing this chant, variously phrased: "The Ten Commandments are the
foundation of Western morality and the American Constitution and government."
In saying this, people are essentially crediting Moses with the invention of
ethics, democracy and civil rights, a claim that is of course absurd. But its
absurdity is eclipsed by its injustice, for there is another lawmaker who is
far more important to us, whose ideas and actions lie far more at the
foundation of American government, and whose own Ten Commandments were
distributed at large and influencing the greatest civilizations of the
West--Greece and Rome--for well over half a millennia before the laws of
Moses were anything near a universal social influence. In fact, by the time
the Ten Commandments of Moses had any real chance of being the foundation of
anything in Western society, democracy and civil rights had all but died out,
never to rise again until the ideals of our true hero, the real man to whom
we owe all reverence, were rediscovered and implemented in what we now call
"modern democratic principles."

The man I am talking about is Solon the Athenian. Solon was born, we believe,
around 638 B.C.E., and lived until approximately 558, but the date in his
life of greatest importance to us is the year he was elected to create a
constitution for Athens, 594 B.C.E. How important is this man? Let's examine
what we owe to him, in comparison with the legendary author (or at last, in
legend, the transmitter) of the Judeo-Christian Ten Commandments. Solon is
the founder of Western democracy and the first man in history to articulate
ideas of equal rights for all citizens, and though he did not go nearly as
far in the latter as we have come today, Moses can claim no connection to
either. Solon was the first man in Western history to publicly record a civil
constitution in writing. No one in Hebrew history did anything of the kind,
least of all Moses. Solon advocated not only the right but even the duty of
every citizen to bear arms in the defense of the state--to him we owe the 2nd
Amendment. Nothing about that is to be found in the Ten Commandments of
Moses. Solon set up laws defending the principles and importance of private
property, state encouragement of economic trades and crafts, and a strong
middle class--the ideals which lie at the heart of American prosperity, yet
which cannot be credited at all to Moses.

Solon is the first man in history to eliminate birth as a basis for
government office, and to create democratic assemblies open to all male
citizens, such that no law could be passed without the majority vote of all.
The notion of letting women into full political rights would not arise in any
culture until that of modern Europe, but democracy never gets a single word
in the Bible. Solon invented the right of appeal and trial by jury, whereby
an assembly of citizens chosen at random, without regard for office or wealth
or birth, gave all legal verdicts. Moses can claim nothing as fundamental as
these developments, which are absolutely essential to modern society. The
concept of taking a government official to court for malfeasance we owe to
Solon. We read nothing of the kind about Moses. The idea of allowing
foreigners who have mastered a useful trade to immigrate and become citizens
is also an original invention of Solon--indeed, the modern concept of
citizenship itself is largely indebted to him. There is nothing like this in
the Bible. And like our own George Washington, Solon declined the offer to
become ruler in his country, giving it a Constitution instead--unlike Moses
who gave laws yet continued to reign. And Solon's selfless creation of the
Athenian constitution set the course which led to the rise of the first
universal democracy in the United States, and it was to Solon's Athens, not
the Bible, that our Founding Fathers looked for guidance in constructing a
new State. Moses can claim no responsibility for this. If we had Solon and no
Moses, we would very likely still be where we are today. But if we had Moses
and no Solon, democracy might never have existed at all.

So much for being the impetus behind our Constitution. The Ten Commandments
of Moses have no connection with that, while the Constitution of Solon has
everything to do with it. But what about ethics? Let us examine the Ten
Commandments offered by each of these men and compare their worth and
significance to Western society. Of course, neither man's list was unique to
him--Moses was merely borrowing ideas that had already been chiseled in stone
centuries before by Hammurabi, King of Babylon (and unlike the supposed
tablets of Moses, the Stone of Hammurabi still exists and is on display in
the Louvre). Likewise, Solon's Ten Ethical Dicta were a reflection and
refinement of wisdom that was already ancient in his day. And in both cases
the association of these men with their moral precepts is as likely legend as
fact, but 

[CTRL] President Clinton moving to Britain; another lie?

2000-06-20 Thread Mr.Rodriguez

Please read:

http://www.thisislondon.com/html/news.html

"If" it's true, why?"


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Re: [CTRL] Sect Member Said Injected With Drug

2000-06-20 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

In a message dated 06/18/2000 9:35:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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 The Information Center said at least 22 Falun Gong practitioners
 have died of mistreatment and other reasons since the Chinese
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Isn't this amazing.  I thought the Chinese were kind to their citizens.
After all they're our trading partners.  It's only that nasty Cuba that needs
an embargo because Castro is mean to his people.  Oh well.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Clinton: The President Who Loved the Anti-Americans

2000-06-20 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

--

From NewsMax:

Clinton: The President Who Loved the Anti-Americans

John LeBoutillier Tuesday, June 20, 2000

Do you know why this poisonous, dishonest and devious
administration is not upset with the repeated violations of
national security at our research labs and government
installations?

Because they are not afraid of the very nations most Americans
regard as "our enemies."

In fact the top level of the Clinton government is more friendly
and more sympathetic to our adversaries than any other
administration in our history.

Proof of this ‘pro-anti-American’ tilt can be seen in a series of
amazing statements made yesterday on National Public Radio by
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.  As Reuters news service
reported, "Iran, Libya and North Korea are rogues no longer, the
U.S.  State Department has decided.

Now they're just "states of concern," Secretary of State
Madeleine Albright said in a radio interview.

"Some of those countries aren't as bad as they used to be.  They
say: 'We've done some stuff, so why are you still calling us a
rogue state?’ " one State Department official said.

Or, as State Department spokesman Richard Boucher put it more
carefully on Monday: "It's just a recognition that we have seen
some evolution in different ways in different places, and that we
will deal appropriately with each one based on the kind of
evolution we're seeing."

Iran, for example, has become more democratic, with presidential
and parliamentary elections.  Libya has handed over the suspects
in the Lockerbie case for trial and North Korea has declared a
moratorium on tests of its long-range missiles.

Even Iraq, a hardcore "rogue state" under the old description, is
now "a state previously known as rogue", to quote Boucher's
jocular formulation.

Albright, speaking on National Public Radio's Diane Rehm show,
said: "We are now calling these states 'states of concern'
because we are concerned about their support for terrorist
activities, their development of missiles, their desire to
disrupt."

No wonder the disappearance of the Los Alamos hard drives is
treated with a wink and a smile by Richardson et al!  Who cares
if the information they contain falls into Lybian or Iraqi or
North Korean hands.  They are no longer our enemies; no, there is
only some "concern" – a longtime liberal phony word spoken with a
pseudo-serious facial expression – about these no-longer-rogue
states.

What a total disaster this has become!

Any doubts about what the Clinton legacy is going to be are now
dispelled.

Simply stated, Bill Clinton gave America away.  Period!

Where Ronald Reagan made great strides at marginalizing these
outcast countries, Clinton sees himself as bringing these
‘misunderstood’ states back into the world community.

Dutch saw the likes of Quaddafi, Castro, Khomeini and Kim Il-sung
as "degenerates and lowlifes" – yes, he used those exact words.
Clinton sees them as "equals."

The softening of our description of these nations is Step One in
Clinton’s plan to re-arm and re-finance these already-dangerous
regimes.  Aid, loans, military tranfers and trade treaties are
now all in the cards for America’s most dangerous adversaries.

The potential damage to our country’s future is incalculable.
We are soon going to face not just a resurgent KGB state known as
Russia (which we have financed since the breakup of the Soviet
Union while they are still aiming ICBMs at our major cities) but
also the gargantuan known as China.  But now we are also going to
have to plan on these ‘rogue states’ once again becoming armed to
the teeth and financially solvent countries that still have
hostile intent toward us.

Bill Clinton, the president who loved the anti-Americans.


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[CTRL] AMERICAN HEALTHCARE: The Mess That Government Intervention Created

2000-06-20 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

[And to think that Clinton/Gore/Mrs. Clinton feel that the
solution to the problem of Health Care is yet more government
intervention!]


From PoliticalUSA.com,
by Dorothy Anne Seese


AMERICAN HEALTHCARE: The Mess That Government Intervention
Created

Two generations of American citizens, those born in the 1960's
and those born in the 1980's, have absolutely no idea that health
care used to be available to almost anyone in the United States
at reasonable cost.  My mother gave birth to me in a ten-bed
hospital where the doctor's office and waiting room were up
front, the nurses wore white-starched cotton uniforms and the
fees were something like $2.00 per office visit.  My birth cost
$50.00 including mother's ten-day stay in the hospital.  That was
July of 1935.  The place was Culver City, California, close to
Santa Monica.

In 1943 my dad had his appendix removed by our family doctor in
that same hospital.  He paid for the operation and after
approximately four days, came home and went back to work.
That's how we used to have health care in the United States for
the average working person.

In 1962 my mother and I moved from Southern California to the
Phoenix, Arizona area.  I had to locate a new doctor, and that
doctor became the family physician for the ensuing 22 years.  I
had health insurance through my employer, but my mother, who was
now my dependent, was not eligible for coverage under my
insurance plan.  Plans covered spouses and children, not
dependent parents.  I was still able to afford her annual
physicals and necessary doctor visits.

In 1967 the government unleashed Medicare, which I felt was
insurance against catastrophic medical costs such as major
surgery or hospitalization that my mother might need.  Little did
I realize that it was the first major step toward total disaster
for American health care as I had known it.  I was then 32 years
old, but my mother was almost 66 and I foresaw a time when I
would not be able to provide for all her medical needs.
Coverage for costs above and beyond the normal fees I had always
paid seemed like a good idea to me then.

Subsequently, I have observed what disasters even a small amount
of government intervention can cause.

By 1970 health care costs began to rise.  By 1980 they had
soared.  As long as I had the services of our long-time family
physician, I really didn't have to worry. He accepted the
Medicare that was provided for my mother, and the insurance
coverage I had.  Anything not covered could be paid out on a
monthly basis.

By 1990 health care costs were not only astronomical but the
family physician had retired.  This did not affect my mother
much, because she was in and out of care centers from 1982 to
1989 and finally, in 1993, became incapable of staying at home
alone while I worked and was placed in a long-term care facility.
She passed away in September, 1999 just three months short of age
98.

I am now a Medicare recipient as a result of disability.  Along
with the disability award from Social Security, I became eligible
for Medicare benefits.  I had not looked at the schedule of
deductibles for years. Shock is far too mild a word to describe
what I saw.  Now, I couldn't afford me!  The only option is the
Medicare HMO, so I enrolled in our area's major provider program.
The first doctor I saw disliked me intensely because I wanted
answers and felt that if I had medical questions and concerns, I
should be able to make an appointment to see the doctor and
discuss the problems.  His perspective was that he was to see me
every three months unless I had an emergency.  He refused further
treatment and told me to get another physician from my HMO Plan.

It was then that I began to really investigate what present-day
American health care is all about, and I was again shocked and
amazed.  The doctors in Medicare and other HMO groups are
rewarded for holding down costs, which often results in less than
adequate care.  Doctors are abrupt with patients.  I have
discovered that tossing out "nuisance" patients who want answers
and not excuses is commonplace.

What happened?  The government intervened to make health care
affordable and instead, it has become less affordable than ever.
The government's intervention fed the greed instinct of the
health care providers and sent costs soaring. The attorneys
fueled the cost problem with added litigation.  The United States
Congress began seeing the HMO as a way to cut costs, but instead,
it has cut the level of care for those who must use the HMO as
opposed to the private payee or covered insurance programs of the
past.

The only area of agreement I have found in my research on health
care in America is that it's a mess and likely to get worse.  It
is true that lives have been saved by transplants and other
exotic medical procedures that were unheard of 40 years ago.  It
is also true that many people who could afford a doctor in the
1950's can no longer do so.  HMO doctors aren't impressed with
one of 

[CTRL] The Barak Plan: A Lethal Danger to the State of Israel (fwd)

2000-06-20 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:46:35 +0200
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Subject: The Barak Plan: A Lethal Danger to the State of Israel

The Barak Plan: A Lethal Danger to the State of Israel
By Moshe Hagar

(Ed. note - Moshe Hagar served as a full colonel in the IDF and
is presently in the reserves. He resides in the Southern Hebron
Hills community, Beit Yatir.)

The following article is derived from my military experience,
from information available to me, and from my national
responsibility.  Unfortunately the deterioration is continuing
and intensifying. I cannot discern any red lines defined by the
government.  Therefore I am filled with a sense of obligation to
warn about the current steps being taken.

Many of the state's citizens are fooling themselves that Barak's
program only endangers residents living in Yesha (Judea, Samaria
and Gazza).  However, as opposed to the accepted opinion, the
program encompasses a real and serious danger to the existence of
the State of Israel. This article will analyze the dangers and
their significance, with the aim of attempting to prevent them
and save Am Yisrael. This is still possible, with G-d's help, if
we take the proper action.

The proposed withdrawal will include 92% of the land in Judea and
Samaria, and will, for all intensive purposes, return us to the
1967 borders.  The significance of this withdrawal spells
disaster, G-d forbid.

THE DANGER TO THE STATE OF ISRAEL

First and foremost, danger is masked in transferring territory
from the most important area, the Jordan Valley, which is our
defense line against the eastern front during a general war.
Accessibility to the Jordan Valley will be involve warfare; the
Palestinian army will delay or prevent access to this key
territory. During exercises conducted lately, it took the IDF a
full day to reach this key territory, as a result of Palestinian
roadblocks; this is prior to a full withdrawal.  In addition, our
emergency warehouses are located in their areas in Judea and
Samaria, around Jerusalem, in order to protect Jerusalem.  The
accessibility to these will be exceedingly difficult. The Israeli
army is based primarily upon reserve soldiers, making the time
schedule extremely significant. Every minute is liable to be
critical. For example, in order to access emergency war
reserve-warehouses between Jericho and Jerusalem, we must pass
through Anatot and Hizma, both in Palestinian territory. Every
person with any intelligence realizes the significance of such
happenings during a state of emergency.

AS A RESULT, FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE FOUNDING OF THE STATE,
THE NEXT ALL-OUT WAR WILL FACE THE ISRAELI ARMY FROM FRONT AND
BACK, with Jordanian and Iraqi forces from the east and with
Palestinian forces from behind.

In addition, within the framework of a withdrawal, the IDF will
be forced to abandon emergency warning stations, situated high in
the mountains, above Hatzur and Mt. Aival. As opposed to those
casting illusions, despite the technology, topographic height
was, and still remains the most significant factor when war
approaches.

These early warning stations are of vital importance, providing
critical data and warning. In place of this data we are offered
data via an American satellite. However, experience has taught us
that the Americans supply us with minimal data, and at times
intentionally block us out, as happened during the Gulf War.

Terrorists will easily be able to smuggle weapons into Yesha via
Jordan, for the security strip will be 2 - 3 kilometers wide. As
a result of the opening of the Gazza port to Palestinian ships,
weapons will flow freely, including missiles against tanks and
missiles against airplanes, which we will be faced with during
the next armed uprising. Judea and Samaria are liable to become a
second Lebanon, with all that implies.

Concession of the Jordan Valley to the Palestinians has
additional implications: the very real possibility that the
Hashemite Kingdom in Jordan will collapse. The majority of the
Jordanian population is Palestinian. This will create an eastern
front from Teheran and Baghdad, leading to the outskirts of Kfar
Saba and Netanya.

The greatest danger will be to Jerusalem, being adjacent to an
enemy Arab population of 250,000 people. This population will
have access to the center of Jerusalem, and will derive strength
from the Palestinian State in Abu Dis. Jerusalem will be
threatened by the possibility of a Palestinian take-over: Barak
plans on giving the PLO municipal autonomy within the city, as he
has with Abu Dis, and will make possible transfer, later on, of
the area's security.

An agreement is usually expected to prevent war. However,
unfortunately the opposite is true. These agreements create a
situation whereby it is worthwhile for the enemy to fight us,
because he will have the ablity to easily be victorious. The
Palestinians are today speaking of adopting the same tactics used

[CTRL] Black Leaders Blame Clinton and 'Gangsta Rap' for Sex Attacks

2000-06-20 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

For the story behind the story...


Tuesday June 20, 2000; 4:07 PM EDT

Black Leaders Blame Clinton and 'Gangsta Rap' for Sex Attacks

Two spokesmen for an African-American group calling itself the
New York Leadership Alliance cited President Clinton's conduct
with Monica Lewinsky, along with "gangsta rap" music, as the root
cause for last week's Central Park sex attacks, reported The
Associated Press on Monday.

Over 50 women say they were soaked with water, stripped and
groped in the melee that followed the Puerto Rican Day parade a
week ago Sunday.

"Look at the president, look what he did, and what kind of signal
that sends to young men of this nation," said Charles Barron,
president and CEO of Dynamics of Leadership Inc.

"Something's wrong with a society where a president can do that
and then get a 70 or 80 percent approval rating in spite of it,"
added Barron.

At a Central Park news conference Sunday, Barron and radio
personality Bob Law announced a new campaign entitled "Save Our
Sons" (SOS), which, they said, "will work to restore a sense of
respect and integrity to the way women are treated.  ...
particularly in the African-American community."

SOS would also target music companies that promote gangsta rap, a
musical genre they said tends to denigrate females and perpetuate
the image of women as "sex toys."

First lady Hillary Clinton criticized TV networks on Tuesday for
broadcasting video of the Central Park sex attacks.  But her
Manhattan campaign headquarters did not return a call for comment
on news that black leaders blamed the episode on her husband's
sexual misconduct.

In an online poll taken last week by WABC-NY talk radio, 50
percent of 4,500 self-selecting respondents said the president's
poor example was responsible for the Central Park sex assault
rampage.


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[CTRL] VATICAN (was) Talmud Unmasked

2000-06-20 Thread David Sutherland

Well, the "Talmud Unmasked", concocted by a stooge of a totalitarian
religio-political parasite of humankind, the Vatican.

ROTFLMAO Nicky Babe!!!

Bit like Dracula "unmasking" the Werewolf or closer to reality, Hitler
"unmasking" Stalin.

Try some of these:

THE VATICAN HOLOCAUST
http://www.reformation.org/holocaus.html

The Shocking Story of the Catholic "Church's" Role in Starting the Vietnam
War
http://www.reformation.org/vietnam.html

Secret Instructions of the Jesuits - Revealed at Last!!
http://www.reformation.org/secret.html

The Last Great Inquisition!!
http://www.reformation.org/inquisit.html

Assassination of President Kennedy - Solved at Last!!
http://www.reformation.org/kennedy.html

Assassination of President Lincoln
http://www.reformation.org/lincoln.html

 JUST for STARTERS Nicky! (ggg)



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 http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmudx.htm#Talmud Unmasked
 http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/natural.htm

 The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians

 By

 Rev. I. B. Pranaitis

 Roman Catholic Priest; Master of Theology and Professor
 of the Hebrew Language at the Imperial Ecclesiastical
 Academy of the Roman Catholic Church
 in Old St. Petersburg.

 St. Petersburg
 Printing office of the
 Imperial Academy of Sciences
 1892


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 ANTIPHONE
 PROLOGUE
 DESCRIPTION OF THE TALMUD
 SOURCE
 PART ONE
 THE TEACHING OF THE TALMUD CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
 CHAPTER I - JESUS CHRIST IN THE TALMUD
 Article I. - CONCERNING THE NAMES OF JESUS CHRIST
 Article II. - THE LIFE OF CHRIST
 Note About The Cross
 Article III. - THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST
 CHAPTER II - CHRISTIANS IN THE TALMUD
 Article I. - The Names Given to Christians in the Talmud
 Article II. - What the Talmud Teaches About Christians
 Article III. - Christian Worship
 PART TWO
 PRECEPTS OF THE TALMUD CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
 CHAPTER I - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE AVOIDED
 Article I. - Christians Unworthy to Share With Jews
 Article II. - Christians Are Unclean
 Article III. - Christians Are Idolaters
 Article IV. - Christians Are Evil
 CHAPTER II - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE EXTERMINATED
 Article I. - CHRISTIANS TO BE HARMED INDIRECTLY
 I. By not helping them
 II. By interfering in their work
 III. By deceit in legal matters
 IV. By harming them in things necessary for life
 Article II. - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE HARMED DIRECTLY
 1. Renegades to be killed
 2. Apostates
 3. Princes, especially the Prince of Rome (the Pope) to be exterminated
 4. All Christians to be killed
 5. Killing a Christian is an acceptable sacrifice to God
 6. Heaven promised to those who kill Christians
 7. A Christian may be beheaded on the most solemn festivals
 8. The Messiah expected will be revengeful
 9. Jewish prayers against Christians
 10. Christian prayers for the Jews
 11. Objective of Jewish prayers is the destruction of Christianity
 12. Jews pray for a revengeful Messiah

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Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celts

2000-06-20 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

A honky by any other name is still a honky.
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[CTRL] Fwd: Brenninkmeijer Family ( Nazis)

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan





Times O' London
June 16 2000 

Secrets and ties of Dutch family chain
FROM DAVID LISTER IN BRUSSELS

THEY are rarely seen in public, never give interviews and even their senior
employees are forced to communicate with them in code.
The super-secretive Brenninkmeijer family, with a fortune estimated at £1.6
billion, was coming to terms yesterday with having its business interests
suddenly forced into the limelight.
Until recently the Dutch family, who are said to have clothed Hermann
Goering during the Second World War, seemed to have hit on a money-making
formula. 
Their CA clothing chain, started by brothers Clemens and August in 1841,
boasted 577 stores in 12 European countries as well as shops in the United
States, Brazil, Mexico and Argentina and their secretivenes seemed an
acceptable price of their success.
The limits they were prepared to go to retain their affairs are legendary.
All staff were said to take an oath of loyalty to CA, while to get a job,
prospective employees used to have to subject themselves to a humiliating
grilling in front of the whole family.
Even senior executives had no idea how much money CA made because they were
never shown the company's accounts. According to one Dutch journalist, a
family elder once remarked that "openness is a sign of weakness", but the
Brenninkmeijers' secretiveness appears to have owed at least something to
history. 
Like most of Europe's great financial dynasties, the family is alleged to
have thrown itself behind the Nazis during the Second World War.
Over the past few years, however, the secrecy of their affairs has begun to
unravel as deepening financial losses forced them to look beyond the family
to fill top jobs at CA.
In Europe alone, the Brussels-based CA chain has been leaking money at the
rate of £1 million a week, or £140,000 a day. In America, the family's
experiment at running general department stores hit problems after a
disastrous expansion campaign, forced it to close 75 of its 1,000 stores in
July last year with the loss of 4,000 jobs.
For a family which prides itself on thrift and keeping out of the public
eye, it has been disastrous on both fronts.
According to a survey by America's Forbes magazine in 1998, the
Brenninkmeijers were worth £2.5 billion. In the same survey a year later,
the magazine re-estimated their wealth at £1.6 billion. In the 2000 Forbes
billionaires' list, published yesterday, the family has dropped out
altogether. 



















[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Gee Dubya's Money........

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan





Is THIS ALL??!!!

David Goldman

Bush Breaks $90M Fund-Raising
   Mark

   By Jonathan D. Salant
   Associated Press Writer
   Tuesday, June 20, 2000; 5:33 p.m. EDT

   WASHINGTON ?? George W. Bush broke through the
   $90 million fund-raising mark last month, but has less
   than $1 million a week to spend through the Republican
   National Convention in early August. Al Gore will be
   able to spend about the same amount each week.

   Bush reported Tuesday that he had $7.1 million in his
   campaign account at the end of May. He raised
   $650,000 so far this month, and has another fund-raiser
   scheduled Friday in Alabama.

   Gore reported a bank account balance of $8.3 million.
   He also expects an additional $1.3 million in federal
   matching funds. But the Democratic Party convention is
   Aug. 14-17, less than two weeks after the Republican
   meeting July 31-Aug. 3, and Gore's money will have to
   last until then.

   Following the national conventions, each candidate will
   receive $67.6 million in federal funds for the general
   election and cannot raise any more money except to
   cover legal and accounting costs.

   In his monthly filing with the Federal Election
   Commission, Bush reported raising $6 million in May ?
   10 times more than Gore ? bringing his fund-raising total
   to more than $90 million, twice as much as any
   presidential candidate ever.

   He received the maximum $5,000 contribution from the
   political action committee of CSX Corp., a major
   railroad company. Congress is considering legislation to
   renew the Surface Transportation Board, which
   regulates the railroad industry. He got $5,000 from the
   PAC of the lobbying firm of Gibson, Dunn  Crutcher,
   whose clients include defense contractors Boeing,
   Lockheed Martin, Loral and Northrop Grumman. Bush
   has called for boosting defense spending.

   Bush spent $4.9 million last month, bringing his
   spending total to $83 million, also a new mark for
   presidential campaigns. More than one-fourth of the
   total ? $22.4 million ? went for advertising.

   The Texas governor, who is not accepting federal funds
   for his campaign, can raise and spend as much as he
   wants. Gore is limited to spending $40.5 million on his
   campaign through the convention, plus legal and
   accounting costs, because he is accepting federal funds.

   Gore received $3.3 million in federal funding last
   month, bringing his total to $14 million. Aides said he
   expects to eventually get more than $15 million.
   Candidates are limited to a maximum of $16.9 million in
   matching funds.

   The vice president raised just $600,000 last month,
   bringing his fund-raising total close to $37 million,
   excluding the federal funds.

   Gore's campaign has spent $40.7 million, but reported
   that only $28 million of the total fell under the $40.5
   million spending cap. He spent $1.3 million last month,
   with $70,517 going to reimburse the government for
   trips on Air Force Two and government limousines

   In a separate FEC filing, Bush provided a recent look at
   his financial holdings.

   His financial disclosure report for 1999 showed that he
   had between $6.1 million and $12.6 million in U.S.
   Treasury bonds, providing him with between $358,750
   and $1.1 million in interest; a blind trust of between $1
   million and $5 million; and two money market accounts,
   valued at between $600,000 and $1.3 million.

   Bush earned between $500,000 and $1 million in
   capital gains by selling a lakefront home in eastern
   Texas; he now owns a 1,500-acre ranch in Crawford, in
   central Texas, valued at between $1 million and $5
   million.

   He also reported as much as $1 million in capital gains
   from his share of the partnership that formerly owned
   the Texas Rangers baseball team. Bush still holds a
   share of the partnership worth between $500,000 and $1
   million, but the group is being dissolved.

   He was paid $97,153 as governor of Texas and
   

[CTRL] CONTEMPORARY INDICATIONS OF A CONSPIRACY

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan

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As, always, Caveat Lector
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List of recent issues of the newsletter

"CONTEMPORARY INDICATIONS OF A CONSPIRACY"


November 1999   The Antichrist and George W. Bush 
  (No. 13 The secrets of Payne Stewart 
  Flight of Horrors, Flight of Horus (EgyptAir 990)

  and more.

December 1999The Masonic occupation of Germany 
  (No. 14) The CLuM meaning of the name "John McCain" 
   More of what the Harodim wrought in 1998 
   and more.

January 2000More on the "13"-Lines of New Atlantis (a.k.a. the
  (No. 15)

  USA) 
 Adolf Schicklgruber and his father 
 JFK, Jr., Monica Lewinsky, and Columbus (The
secret
 of Monica "S". Lewinsky) 
 and more 

February 2000  More on Luciferian technological advances 
  (No. 16)  More on Atlantis, and Avalon, and 
Supermodel Claudia Schiffer's role in the
Conspiracy 
Actress Catherine Zeta Jones and the Alaska
Airlines

261 "accident" 
March 14, 2000 
and more 

March 2000 Shania Twain and the Revlon commercials 
   (No. 17)   Atlantis, and Avalon, and Amenti, and 
and more 

April 2000The secrets of Patty/Tania Hearst 
(No.18)Remember the "Maine"! 
   More sinister Masonic secrets of the Oklahoma City

 bombing 
  Revisiting the two-party double-cross 
  and more 

May 2000 The gory saga of Albert A. Gore 
   (No. 19) The alien Elian 
Masonic-blue NATO protectorates in the Balkans

   The horrible secret of supermodel Linda Evangelista

and more 

June 2000  Why I believe what I believe 
   (No. 20) The Magic Kingdom of Saudi Arabia 
El Chupacabras 
and more 

July 2000   More on the Islamic fundamentalist menace 
   (No. 21) Leif Ericsson and Christopher Columbus 
and more 

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Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
All My Relations.
Omnia Bona Bonis,
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[CTRL] Clinton 'seeks British home'

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan

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Om
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Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:622074"Clinton 'seeks
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What a bunch of morons!!!  Everyone knows Clinton is moving
to Cuba!!!

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Clinton 'seeks British home'

President Clinton is planning to set up a second home in Britain when he
leaves the White House, according to security sources.

The Evening Standard has discovered the US leader is looking at houses in
the Oxfordshire countryside and British Special Branch officers are
preparing feasibility reports on a number of properties.

Mr Clinton hopes to become a visiting professor attached to Oxford
University, where he studied as a Rhodes scholar in the Sixties.

...The Standard has been told that Mr Clinton is house-hunting in the
picturesque village of Glympton, 12 miles north of Oxford. He has been
invited to look in the area by long-serving Saudi Arabian ambassador to
Washington, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, who in 1992 bought the Glympton Estate
which includes 21 properties.



...Mr Clinton leaves the White House in seven months and his plans are said
to include embarking on the lecture circuit, a career successfully pursued
by predecessors Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The Standard has been told he would like to make Oxford University his base.
He has spoken fondly of his time at Oxford and the countryside around it and
his close friendship with Mr Blair makes the move all the more likely.

Hillary Clinton will concentrate on her New York Mayoral bid


Mrs Clinton will stay in the US to pursue a political career in the Senate.
It is widely believed the couple are virtually estranged following the
scandal of his relationship with Monica Lewinsky and other allegations.

The couple are expected to lead separate lives when his presidency ends and
a move to the UK would mean he would not overshadow his wife's political
ambitions, although they have denied they plan to divorce.

Not unsurprisingly in the circumstances, there was an instant denial in
Washington last night despite evidence to the contrary. ...

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[CTRL] Barbara Marx Hubbard - Plus Ascension articles

2000-06-20 Thread Nicky Molloy

I posted some of this below previously on Hubbard but there is another
paragraph on this. Typical Illuminati philosophy. The thing is they follow
the belief that everything is maya in the physical world so its not really
important if people live or die, because life is an illusion anyway. Hubbard
worked out one quarter of humanity is electing to 'transcend'. What she
probably means is when the Pleiadians and Sirians have finished reactivating
the world gridlines with HAARP and they pull the switch to try to break the
barrier between the 3rd and 4th dimension they figure a quarter will survive
in an etherialized form.

If anyone has the time, energy and endurance to check these posts out, then
they will see exactly who is trying to bring this world into the next
dimension. It was the Philadelphia Experiment, an 'accident' caused by Ets
waiting hundreds of years for Aug 12 '43 for the biorhythms of this planet
to be ready for them to tear a 40 mile rip in time that brought this about.

Now after they saw that a person could dematerialise into the next dimesnion
and even reappear they, the scientists, want to join their ET buddies and
live in the next dimension too. Calling themselves the 6th Aryan race.
[coined by Blavatsky and Alice Bailey from the Tibetan called Dwul Kull]
They think it is the end of this physical cycle due to the Mayan prophecies
and other ancient texts.

We also have Dr Andrija Puharich who channelled Ets to find out about our
consciousness and now HAARP is cutting up the ionosphere, where channeled
Ets revealed our brainwaves operate from. Below is a post on the actual
channelled info. So they figure that by wiping the memories of our lives
they can put a new reality in electromagnetically. Just put Tom Beardon
through search this archive if you want more on this. Also The Philadelphia
Experiment and Ascension.

Subject: Top Scientist channeled ET for brainwave info in '67
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/1177?start=874

Subject: Implants to hasten ascension?
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/1367?start=874

Subject: Scientific Proof for the Reality of Ascension
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/1688?start=874

Subject: Ascension plan
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/916?start=895

Subject: Will 'Ascension' occur June 22?
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/2235?start=895

Subject: Highlights of Keys of Enoch
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/170?start=41

Subject: Council of 9 on timeportals Grid series No 11
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/697?start=277

Subject: Quantum physicist ready to 'ascend?'
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/675?start=277

Subject: What are we to believe?
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/711?start=277

Subject: The Philadelphia Experiment and Ascension
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/281?start=277

Subject: Conclusions on the Ascension 1/2
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/276?start=41

Subject: Conclusions on the Ascension 2/2
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/277?

Subject: Ascension/second coming links
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/285?start=277

Subject: The 'Matrix' revealed - Earth's techno Second Coming
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/286?start=277

Subject: Metatron on a flip the earth "Second Coming?"
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/493?start=277

Subject: Drunvalo on 4th Dimensional Shift 2/2
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/629?start=277

Subject: Philadelphia Experiment: Aliens, Time-Travel and Wormholes
Interview - Al Bielek
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/270

Subject: World ascension day miserable failure Grid series 8
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/187?start=41

Subject: Some will not make the transition - Ets tell us
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/124?start=41

Subject: Ascension or Wishful Thinking???
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/44?start=41

Subject: Becker/Hagens: The Global Grid Solution. Grid series No 9
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/47?start=41

Subject: Doorway Activations World gridline series No 7
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/48?start=41

Subject: HAARP'S COVERT AGENDAS--PART I
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/219?start=41

Subject: HAARP'S COVERT AGENDAS--PART II
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/220?start=41

Subject: The Keys Of Enoch by JJ Hurtak
http://www.egroups.com/message/armageddon-or-newage/1473?start=874



If you put the word Hurtak thru "search this archive" you will find out
about ascension and who is doing it.These posts will show up.
http://www.egroups.com/messages/armageddon-or-newage

Nicky


1931  MACK, MAUSSAN, HURTAK HIGHLIGHT 95 COSMIC CULTURE  Nicky 

Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celts

2000-06-20 Thread David Sutherland

Say FWP? - I thought that honky Pink Swatsika got the boot from here (g)

Homosexuality in the Nazi Party
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/pinkswastika/index.html

I see his kicked Nazi ass is still stinging on your forum FWP!



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 A honky by any other name is still a honky.
 FWP

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[CTRL] Fwd: Invasion of The Rebel Manhole Covers

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan





http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9853-2000Jun16.html

Invasion of The Rebel Manhole Covers
By Peter Carlson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, June 17, 2000; Page C01


Paschal McMahon was standing on a bar stool when the manhole cover took
flight.

No, he wasn't drunk. He was working. It was 7:30 on Sunday morning, June 4,
and McMahon was cleaning the windows of Mr. Smith's, the Georgetown saloon
where he tends bar, when a manhole launched its lid into the wild blue
yonder.

"All of a sudden, Boom!" he says. "Jesus Christ, my heart went into my
mouth!"

The manhole cover soared about three feet into the air and then plunged to
earth with a thundering thud. But it wasn't a particularly impressive
manhole cover flight, at least not by Georgetown standards.

These days, Georgetown is the Reagan National, the Dulles International, the
Cape Canaveral of flying manhole covers. It achieved this lofty status on
Feb. 18, when three M Street manhole covers abruptly abandoned their
traditional positions underfoot and zoomed toward Heaven, one right after
another.

This is disconcerting, disorienting, a tad distressing. Manhole covers are
not supposed to fly. Birds are supposed to fly. Planes are supposed to fly.
Flies are supposed to fly. Manhole covers are just supposed to sort of lay
there, preferably while covering manholes.

They're not designed for flight. They're heavy--80 to 300 pounds--and not
particularly aerodynamic. Even their mothers wouldn't call them streamlined.
And yet they're taking off, blasting into the heavens. It's the kind of
thing that makes you question your understanding of reality, like the time
you saw Sammy Davis Jr. give Richard Nixon a big hug: Apparently the world
is weirder than you ever imagined.

When manhole covers fly, you have to wonder: What next? Rocks that swim?
Trees doing the Lambada? Frogs raining from the heavens? Dogs playing poker?
Republicans taking over the House of Representatives? Oh, wait. That already
happened. See how strange life is getting?

This isn't just a Washington phenomenon. In San Juan, Puerto Rico, seven
manhole covers took flight in 1997, one landing on the roof of a nearby
child-care center. In New York in 1998, a manhole cover outside Radio City
Music Hall zoomed four stories into the air, which even the Rockettes can't
do. In New Orleans last summer, so many manhole covers started flying that
the local power company started chaining them to the earth, a public-utility
version of preventive detention.

But Washington is certainly in the forefront of manhole cover aerodynamics.
After Georgetown's iron geysers in February, manhole covers were flying all
over town. On March 8, one flew at 19th and K. On March 31, one manhole
cover exploded on the grounds of the White House and another flew into a car
at 13th and G.

Back in 1994, a manhole cover rocketed into the air over Connecticut Avenue,
and landed on the ninth-floor balcony of a building across the street.

The ninth floor? What's going on here?

There are, of course, a lot of theories.

Back in February, after the now-famous Georgetown launches, Pepco blamed
Washington Gas and Washington Gas blamed Pepco, and there was a lot of talk
about how maybe the salt spread on streets to melt snow had damaged cables
and caused the explosions. But that can't explain the flight that scared
McMahon, which occurred on a balmy spring morning.

Nancy Moses, spokeswoman for Pepco, which owns 57,000 manholes in
Washington, has a theory: Most flying manhole covers are caused by
electrical short circuits underground that shoot sparks: "And that flash
could ignite any gases present--I don't mean Washington Gas's gas but gas
from decaying leaves and gunk. There's a momentary heat buildup and pressure
that may dislodge the manhole cover."

"I have my own theory," says Patricia King of the Walking Company, a
Georgetown shoe store located right in front of the February launchings.
"The rats were chewing the wires and the wires exploded."

Maybe. But neither theory explains the flying manhole covers in San Juan.
Those manholes flew off sewer lines. Sewer lines don't contain wires. They
contain . . . well, something else.

So maybe we need to think outside the box, consider some alternate
explanations:

Maybe Mother Earth has been eating too many beans.

Maybe manhole covers watched Frisbees and got inspired.

Maybe this explains those flying saucer photos from the '50s--they were just
manhole covers out for a quiet romp in the sky.

Or maybe not. Maybe manhole covers are just beginning their own space
program and these little flights are their crude early attempts, like those
rockets that blew up on NASA's launch pads in the '50s. Maybe they'll work
the bugs out soon and be flying in formation over Georgetown like the Blue
Angels.

Or maybe manhole covers just got tired of being stepped on and spat upon and
decided to rise up--literally. And maybe flying manhole covers will inspire
other aspects of our 

[CTRL] Fwd: The book banned by the federal courts

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan









Subj:The book banned by the federal courts
Date:   00-06-19 02:46:19 EDT
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Ravnitzky)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

THE BOOK THAT¹S BEEN BANNED IN BOSTON, AND EVERYWHERE ELSE...BY THE FEDERAL
COURTS
By Michael Ravnitzky
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The administrative office operating the federal courts is protecting the
public from the most dangerous book in the country.  Or so it would appear
from the actions of the Administrative Office of United States Courts (the
AOUSC).  This office has essentially completely barred any distribution of
the  biographical  handbook  to the federal courts, judges and employees:  a
970-page volume entitled: "Justice and Judges of the United States Courts."
The most recent edition, published in 1999, is stamped "Restricted to
Official Use" but it contains no further explanation of why it is kept from
the public.

You can reach the Administrative Office of United States Courts at One
Columbus Circle N.E., Washington, D.C.  20544, or at: 202-273-0107.

It seems that the era where books are banned by the decree of the federal
courts has not yet ended.





[CTRL] Fwd: FW: Ted Kacyznski, brainwashed by OSS Psychiatrist Henry A. Murray

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan






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Subject: Ted Kacyznski, brainwashed by OSS Psychiatrist Henry A. Murray

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Subject: Ted Kacyznski, brainwashed by OSS Psychiatrist Henry A. Murray

see: OSS Psychiatrist  Henry A. Murray
"Multiform Assessments of Personality Development Among Gifted College Men,
1941-1965," by Henry A. Murray
Henry A. Murray's abstract of the study to which he subjected Theodore
Kaczynski and other Harvard students. Posted by the Henry A. Murray
Research Center of the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study.

ATLANTIC MONTHLY 
http://www.theatlantic.com/cgi-bin/o/issues/2000/06/chase.htm

J U N E  2 0 0 0 
Alston Chase is the author of Playing God in Yellowstone (1986) and In a
Dark Wood (1995). He is at work on a book about Theodore Kaczynski.
Picture: Harvard and the Making of the Unabomber

In the fall of 1958 Theodore Kaczynski, a brilliant but vulnerable boy of
sixteen, entered Harvard College. There he encountered a prevailing
intellectual atmosphere of anti-technological despair. There, also, he was
deceived into subjecting himself to a series of purposely brutalizing
psychological experiments -- experiments that may have confirmed his
still-forming belief in the evil of science. Was the Unabomber born at
Harvard? A look inside the files

by Alston Chase

(The online version of this article appears in four parts. Click here to go
to part two, part three, or part four.)


Picture: LIKE many Harvard alumni, I sometimes wander the neighborhood
when I return to Cambridge, reminiscing about the old days and musing on
how different my life has been from what I hoped and expected then. On a
trip there last fall I found myself a few blocks north of Harvard Yard, on
Divinity Avenue. Near the end of this dead-end street sits the Peabody
Museum -- a giant Victorian structure attached to the Botanical Museum,
where my mother had taken me as a young boy, in 1943, to view the
spectacular exhibit of glass flowers. These left such a vivid impression
that a decade later my recollection of them inspired me, then a senior in
high school, to apply to Harvard.

This time my return was prompted not by nostalgia but by curiosity. No. 7
Divinity Avenue is a modern multi-story academic building today, housing
the university's Department of Molecular and Cellular Biology. In 1959 a
comfortable old house stood on the site. Known as the Annex, it served as a
laboratory in which staff members of the Department of Social Relations
conducted research on human subjects. There, from the fall of 1959 through
the spring of 1962, Harvard psychologists, led by Henry A. Murray,
conducted a disturbing and what would now be seen as ethically indefensible
experiment on twenty-two undergraduates. To preserve the anonymity of these
student guinea pigs, experimenters referred to individuals by code name
only. One of these students, whom they dubbed "Lawful," was Theodore John
Kaczynski, who would one day be known as the Unabomber, and who would later
mail or deliver sixteen package bombs to scientists, academicians, and
others over seventeen years, killing three people and injuring twenty-three.

Picture: IHAD a special interest in Kaczynski. For many years he and I
had lived parallel lives to some degree. Both of us had attended public
high schools and had then gone on to Harvard, from which I graduated in
1957, he in 1962. At Harvard we took many of the same courses from the same
professors. We were both graduate students and assistant professors in the
1960s. I studied at Oxford and received a Ph.D. in philosophy from
Princeton before joining the faculty at Ohio State and later serving as
chairman of the Department of Philosophy at Macalester College, in
Minnesota. Kaczynski earned a Ph.D. in mathematics at the University of
Michigan in 1967 and then joined the Berkeley Department of Mathematics as
an instructor. In the early 1970s, at roughly the same time, we separately
fled civilization to the Montana wilderness.

In 1971 Kaczynski moved to Great Falls, Montana; that summer he began
building a cabin near the town of Lincoln, eighty miles southwest of Great
Falls, on a lot he and his brother, David, had bought. In 1972 my wife and
I bought an old homestead fifty-five miles south of Great Falls. Three
years later we gave up our teaching jobs to live in Montana full-time. Our
place had neither telephone nor electricity; it was ten miles from the
nearest neighbor. In winter we were snowbound for months at a time.

In our desire to leave civilization Kaczynski and I were not alone. Many
others sought a similar escape. What, I wondered, had driven Kaczynski into
the wilderness, and to murder? To what degree were his motives simply a
more extreme form of the 

[CTRL] Fwd: [corp-focus] Big Ideas on Corporate Accountability and Global Sustainability

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan





Big Ideas on Corporate Accountability and Global Sustainability
By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman

Sometimes, it is important to think big.

In an era where corporations trample across the globe with minimal
restraint, and citizen movements around the world are on their heels, it
is natural -- and necessary -- for those trying to check corporate power
to think defensively and, when they do reflect on affirmative proposals,
incrementally.

But it is important not to be overly constrained by the existing
balance of forces. If they are to engage, energize and mobilize large
numbers of people, citizen movements need to be animated by positive
visions, as well. And while there is a role for utopian outlines in
suggesting what society could be, even more important are concrete
medium-term proposals that suggest attainable aspirations and purposeful
direction.

One would not ordinarily look to the U.S. Congress for such ideas, but two
members of the U.S. House of Representatives have stepped forward to offer
sweeping proposals to regulate U.S.-based multinational corporations'
global operations and to reorient the global economy to the pursuit of
sustainable development, not corporate greed.

Representative Cynthia McKinney, D-Georgia, has introduced the Corporate
Code of Conduct Act (H.R. 4596, at
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?c106:./temp/~c106m53AT4) and
Representative Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont, has introduced
the Global Sustainable Development Resolution (H.Res 479, at
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?c106:./temp/~c106mO2BRH).

"It is time we reclaim the global economy for the people who make it
work," insists McKinney, "and stop pandering to corporate interests who
build their empires on the backs of the innocent."

"Corporate globalization is forcing men and women around the world to run
a destructive race to the bottom -- a competition in which workers,
communities and entire countries are forced to cut wages, environmental
protections, and social programs to attract footloose capital," says
Sanders.

To address these ills, McKinney's bill would require all U.S.-based
corporations with more than 20 employees abroad to enact a code of
conduct. Significantly, the code also would apply to the companies'
subsidiaries, subcontractors, affiliates, joint ventures, partners, or
licensees -- meaning companies like Nike would not be able to disdain
responsibility for the practices of their subcontractors.

The code would establish a floor for corporate behavior, requiring
companies in their overseas operations to:

* pay a living wage and ban specific practices, such as mandatory overtime
for workers under 18, pregnancy testing and retaliation against
whistleblowers;

* respect identified international labor standards (including the right to
organize, minimum wage guarantees and protections for occupational safety
and health);

* adhere to both international environmental standards and U.S. federal
environmental laws and regulations;

* provide public documentation of where they are doing business directly
or through subsidiaries or contractors, and extensive information on
employment and environmental practices.

The bill would enforce the code of conduct through two mechanisms. First,
the U.S. government would give preference to complying corporations in
contracts and in export assistance. The bill would include certification
and reporting requirements for companies, and would also establish an
investigative process, open to citizen initiation, to determine
compliance. Second, victims of violations of the bill -- including
non-U.S. citizens -- would be empowered to sue U.S. companies in U.S.
courts.

The Sanders resolution covers more territory than the McKinney bill. It
too includes a corporate code of conduct, to be negotiated
internationally, that contains many of the principles included in the
McKinney bill. But the heart of the Sanders resolution addresses the
institutions regulating international commerce.

One of the key mechanisms for developing its proposals is the creation of
U.S. and United Nations Commissions on the Global Economy. The U.S.
commission would hold town meetings and open hearings around the country
to investigate the effect of globalization on the workers, industry and
environment of the United States. The UN panel would both encourage other
nations to hold their own series of town meetings and would initiate a
global North-South dialogue aiming for negotiation of an international
agreement for global sustainable development.

The provisions that the Sanders resolution seeks to have enacted through
global negotiation or U.S. mandate include:

* a tax on international currency transactions, designed to stem financial
volatility;

* creation of a global investment fund, to heighten demand and meet
pressing needs in developing countries;

* cancellation of the debts of the poorest countries, with no structural
adjustment conditions (the package of 

Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celtic Mother Fuckers

2000-06-20 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, David Sutherland wrote:

 Say FWP? - I thought that honky Pink Swatsika got the boot from here (g)

 Homosexuality in the Nazi Party
 http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/pinkswastika/index.html

 I see his kicked Nazi ass is still stinging on your forum FWP!

Heil, General (John) Lee - Stupid honky mo fo doesn't realize that AOL
will allow you to

SHIT ON ALL THAT IS HOLY AND DECENT,

eg

Call the Virgin Mary a cheap whore which is the OFFICIAL POSITION OF
"ISRAEL" and Vatican, Inc. but

"Because filth and blasphemy was the way of AOL and all of its
Hitlerian-Stalinist 'lists'. Verily, verily."
-Laminations 1:666

The beat goes on.

FWP
(LEZ)

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[CTRL] Fwd: Money is Thicker Than Blood

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan





 INDICTED CITY OFFICIAL STILL ON THE JOB

 Mayor refuses to suspend top minority contract officer
pending her trial -- "Appearance of complicity"

 by Chuck Finnie and Lance Williams
 San Francisco Examiner, June 19, 2000


 On May 18, Zula Jones, a[n African-American] city official
indicted in an ongoing FBI corruption probe, was arraigned in
federal court on 16 charges of defrauding San Francisco's
minority contracting program.
 Hours after pleading not guilty, Jones was back at work as
chief contract compliance officer for The City's Human Rights
Commission, leading a training seminar on the very same
contracting program she is accused of abusing.
 That's the way it's been since a U.S. grand jury accused
Jones and four business executives of an alleged scheme to steer
millions of dollars in city contracts that were supposed to go to
local minority businesses to a white-owned corporation from the
East Bay instead.
 Jones is free while awaiting trial, and [African-American]
Mayor Willie Brown has balked at putting her on leave from her
$86,138-per-year job because he thinks she has done nothing
wrong, according to informed sources.
 As a result, Jones still plays a key role at the agency she
stands accused of corrupting: advising the interim director on
important decisions, working alongside staffers who have been
questioned by the FBI and the grand jury about her alleged
wrongdoing.
 Her office is about only 100 feet from the one used by
staffer Kevin Williams, who has claimed he was demoted as
punishment for testifying before the grand jury that indicted
Jones.
 Jones' boss, interim Director Virginia Harmon, said she
won't discuss why Jones is still on the job, and several city
commissioners also declined comment.
 But Jones' continued presence at work is prompting concern,
and one critic is attempting to use a little-known provision of
the city Charter to get The City to move Jones out of the HRC.

Appearance of complicity charged

 Dawn Clements, a San Francisco investment manager, sent a
letter June 8 asking the Civil Service Commission to put Jones on
administrative leave until her trial concludes.
 "Ms. Jones' ongoing access to staff members as well as the
department's records provides the appearance of complicity by The
City as it relates to these allegations," Clements wrote.
 The Civil Service Commission says it isn't sure it has
jurisdiction, but Board of Supervisors President Tom Ammiano said
he thinks Clements has a point.
 "It is in the mayor's court, but I don't think he has shown
a great deal of sensitivity to the situation," Ammiano said. "I
do know that some sort of administrative leave until the matter
is resolved would be reasonable."
 The City's minority contracting program - and the Human
Rights Commission's role in running it - have been under FBI
scrutiny for more than a year. Last July, FBI agents shut the
commission's offices for a weekend while they seized records of
19 companies holding city contracts under the set-aside program.

Indictments handed up

 On April 27, a U.S. grand jury indicted Jones along with
three executives of the Scott Co. of San Leandro, Joseph
Guglielmo, Robert Nurriso and Richard Davis, and the owner of a
Hunters Point firm called Scott-Norman Mechanical, Alvin Norman
Jr.
 Norman is African American, and the grand jury charged that
Scott-Norman Mechanical was a phony front set up so that the
Scott Co., which is owned by whites, could fraudulently obtain
city public works jobs set aside for minority firms.
 After the Human Rights Commission certified it as a
minority-owned business in March 1997, Scott-Norman Mechanical
obtained about $56 million in city contracts, city records show.
 According to the indictment, Jones helped the other
executives defraud the program. All have pleaded not guilty, and
no trial date has been set.
 The defendants were not required to post bail, and Jones was
back at work the day after she was indicted, commission staffers
said.

Witness says he was demoted

 Staffer Kevin Williams complained in an Examiner interview
last month that Jones telephoned him shortly after she was
indicted and accused him of "turning state's evidence" because he
had testified before the grand jury.
 Williams said he had merely told the truth after being
subpoenaed, but he claimed that Jones caused him to be demoted in
retaliation. Jones' lawyer, John Keker, denied the allegation.
 Some HRC staffers said Jones' presence at work was
particularly unsettling because she holds tremendous sway with
Harmon, the HRC's interim director.
 Until April, when she was appointed interim director, Harmon
was a contract compliance officer. Her boss was Jones.
 Under the city Charter, Harmon has the power to keep Jones
on the job, reassign her or place her on administrative leave
pending a personnel investigation and possible dismissal.

Commission 

Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celtic Mother Fxxxxxx

2000-06-20 Thread Kris Millegan

Please Mr. Foley, let us keep the headers "decent."

Thank-you.

Om
K

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Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celtic Mother Fxxxxxx

2000-06-20 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Kris Millegan wrote:

 Please Mr. Foley, let us keep the headers "decent."

 Thank-you.

 Om
 K

You are welcome, Om. IMe and Bender (my alter ego) are about to go out and
wash our mouths out with soap. And don't worry, Big Guy. We know that any
filthy and blasphemous scatological shit and crap and desecration is AOK
with CTRL as long as it doesn't deny THE holocaust (the only genocide that
matters to Babylon the Whore). So  "we" will abide by the rules of AOL.
...as will the "made-in-usa whores" like Grahams, Dobsons, Flawells, Pope
Willies, Van Imps, Hagees et albut for different reasons.
FWP

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Re: [CTRL] Very Important! RE: Corporate control of water.

2000-06-20 Thread Nurev Ind Research

"Robert F. Tatman" wrote:

 The next war will be fought over water rights.  It may be between Israel and
 Syria (the Jordan River and the Sea of Galilee);

Close RT but no cigar. More likely over the Litani River in S. Lebanon, some
springs and streams in the Golan, but almost certainly over the Mountain
Aquifer, 60% of which is under the West Bank and 40% of which is under Israel
and is under Israeli control.

I STRONGLY believe that this will break those bogus peace talks, and then the
shit will hit the fan.

Joshua2

 India and Pakistan (the
 Indus); Turkey, Syria, and Iraq (the Euphrates); or the U.S. and Mexico (the
 Rio Grande)--among many, many possibilities.  Oil is relatively passe; there
 are, after all, alternative sources of energy that can be developed when the
 petroleum runs out.  But there is *nothing* left when the water runs out...
 And we dare not deprive the rich of their swimming pools, do we?

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   water as a kind of petroleum for free trade purposes
Date:
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  Describing the Washington-based bank's water privatisation reforms as an
  "organised theft of water from the poor", Shiva added: "the moment you let
  the market determine the situation, all that will happen is that the
  swimming pool of the rich will get a higher priority over the drinking
  water of the poor".

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Re: [CTRL] AP: Nader Is Worth Nearly $4M

2000-06-20 Thread Nurev Ind Research

"Robert F. Tatman" wrote:

 Is it really possible to campaign against the system while personally
 profiting from it?

Yaeh sure why not?

J2

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 http://web.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/06/19/national/NADER19.htm

 Monday, June 19, 2000

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 Ralph Nader's worth is nearly $4 million

 ASSOCIATED PRESS

 WASHINGTON - Green Party presidential contender Ralph Nader, a longtime
 consumer advocate and critic of corporate America, is worth millions of
 dollars, thanks to investments in high-tech companies, according to
 published reports.

 For years, he refused to reveal even the slightest personal financial
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 Sun and Washington Post, detailing personal assets approaching $4 million.

 He also disclosed financial information in a report filed with the Federal
 Election Commission.

 Nader was unavailable for further comment yesterday.

 The Sun reported Saturday that Nader earned more than $512,000 over the last
 16 months, mostly in speaking fees. The newspaper also said Nader's personal
 holdings were conservatively valued at more than $3.9 million, including a
 stock portfolio heavy on high-tech holdings.

 He has nearly $1.2 million in stock in Cisco Systems, an Internet networking
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 unmarried, rents an apartment in Washington, and does not own a car or real
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 Nader said he did not take a salary from any of the public-advocacy groups
 he founded during his career as a champion of consumer rights, and lives on
 just $25,000 a year.

 In campaign speeches, Nader rails against the concentration of wealth and
 power by corporate America. But he makes no apologies for his own wealth,
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 His running mate, Winona LaDuke, is an American Indian activist.

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Re: [CTRL] Talmud Unmasked

2000-06-20 Thread tenebroust

Ah, yes.  Written by a Roman Catholic priest, so this is GOSPEL, eh?  What a bunch of 
tripe.  There is as much of a conspiracy to "get everyone else", in any other group, 
including Christians, whose own teachings condemn non-believers to an eternity of 
suffering.
Pure drivel.


On Tue, 20 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote:


 Subject: Talmud Unmasked


 Index to Talmud Unmasked
 http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmudx.htm#Talmud Unmasked
 http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/natural.htm

 The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians

 By

 Rev. I. B. Pranaitis

 Roman Catholic Priest; Master of Theology and Professor
 of the Hebrew Language at the Imperial Ecclesiastical
 Academy of the Roman Catholic Church
 in Old St. Petersburg.

 St. Petersburg
 Printing office of the
 Imperial Academy of Sciences
 1892


 
 

 ANTIPHONE
 PROLOGUE
 DESCRIPTION OF THE TALMUD
 SOURCE
 PART ONE
 THE TEACHING OF THE TALMUD CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
 CHAPTER I - JESUS CHRIST IN THE TALMUD
 Article I. - CONCERNING THE NAMES OF JESUS CHRIST
 Article II. - THE LIFE OF CHRIST
 Note About The Cross
 Article III. - THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST
 CHAPTER II - CHRISTIANS IN THE TALMUD
 Article I. - The Names Given to Christians in the Talmud
 Article II. - What the Talmud Teaches About Christians
 Article III. - Christian Worship
 PART TWO
 PRECEPTS OF THE TALMUD CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
 CHAPTER I - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE AVOIDED
 Article I. - Christians Unworthy to Share With Jews
 Article II. - Christians Are Unclean
 Article III. - Christians Are Idolaters
 Article IV. - Christians Are Evil
 CHAPTER II - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE EXTERMINATED
 Article I. - CHRISTIANS TO BE HARMED INDIRECTLY
 I. By not helping them
 II. By interfering in their work
 III. By deceit in legal matters
 IV. By harming them in things necessary for life
 Article II. - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE HARMED DIRECTLY
 1. Renegades to be killed
 2. Apostates
 3. Princes, especially the Prince of Rome (the Pope) to be exterminated
 4. All Christians to be killed
 5. Killing a Christian is an acceptable sacrifice to God
 6. Heaven promised to those who kill Christians
 7. A Christian may be beheaded on the most solemn festivals
 8. The Messiah expected will be revengeful
 9. Jewish prayers against Christians
 10. Christian prayers for the Jews
 11. Objective of Jewish prayers is the destruction of Christianity
 12. Jews pray for a revengeful Messiah

 .../PART ONE
 .../PART TWO
 .../Back to Index


 
 

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Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celtic Mother Fuckers

2000-06-20 Thread David Sutherland

ROTFLMAO

Whops! Sorry! Forgot -  this a serious list!!!

Well i see what you mean -  the honky "general" must be quite "eclectic" in
his tastes ... takes it from ALL SIDES ... (ggg)

 he's still in search of his Gnostic "Mysteries", even for the WORLDS
SMALLEST MAN, possibly an "alien" they "speak" to ... contained in the
Bible, in Job 2:11, one named Bildad the "SHUHITE"  ()


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 On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, David Sutherland wrote:

  Say FWP? - I thought that honky Pink Swatsika got the boot from here
(g)
 
  Homosexuality in the Nazi Party
  http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/pinkswastika/index.html
 
  I see his kicked Nazi ass is still stinging on your forum FWP!

 Heil, General (John) Lee - Stupid honky mo fo doesn't realize that AOL
 will allow you to

 SHIT ON ALL THAT IS HOLY AND DECENT,

 eg

 Call the Virgin Mary a cheap whore which is the OFFICIAL POSITION OF
 "ISRAEL" and Vatican, Inc. but

 "Because filth and blasphemy was the way of AOL and all of its
 Hitlerian-Stalinist 'lists'. Verily, verily."
 -Laminations 1:666

 The beat goes on.

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Re: [CTRL] Talmud Unmasked

2000-06-20 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, tenebroust wrote:

 Ah, yes.  Written by a Roman Catholic priest, so this is GOSPEL, eh?  What a bunch 
of tripe.  There is as much of a conspiracy to "get everyone else", in any other 
group, including Christians, whose own teachings condemn non-believers to an eternity 
of suffering.
 Pure drivel.

"Give us something better, bung hole."
-I Beavis and Butt-Head 7:11

FWP


 On Tue, 20 June 2000, Nicky Molloy wrote:

 
  Subject: Talmud Unmasked
 
 
  Index to Talmud Unmasked
  http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmudx.htm#Talmud Unmasked
  http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/natural.htm
 
  The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians
 
  By
 
  Rev. I. B. Pranaitis
 
  Roman Catholic Priest; Master of Theology and Professor
  of the Hebrew Language at the Imperial Ecclesiastical
  Academy of the Roman Catholic Church
  in Old St. Petersburg.
 
  St. Petersburg
  Printing office of the
  Imperial Academy of Sciences
  1892
 
 
  
  
 
  ANTIPHONE
  PROLOGUE
  DESCRIPTION OF THE TALMUD
  SOURCE
  PART ONE
  THE TEACHING OF THE TALMUD CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
  CHAPTER I - JESUS CHRIST IN THE TALMUD
  Article I. - CONCERNING THE NAMES OF JESUS CHRIST
  Article II. - THE LIFE OF CHRIST
  Note About The Cross
  Article III. - THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST
  CHAPTER II - CHRISTIANS IN THE TALMUD
  Article I. - The Names Given to Christians in the Talmud
  Article II. - What the Talmud Teaches About Christians
  Article III. - Christian Worship
  PART TWO
  PRECEPTS OF THE TALMUD CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
  CHAPTER I - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE AVOIDED
  Article I. - Christians Unworthy to Share With Jews
  Article II. - Christians Are Unclean
  Article III. - Christians Are Idolaters
  Article IV. - Christians Are Evil
  CHAPTER II - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE EXTERMINATED
  Article I. - CHRISTIANS TO BE HARMED INDIRECTLY
  I. By not helping them
  II. By interfering in their work
  III. By deceit in legal matters
  IV. By harming them in things necessary for life
  Article II. - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE HARMED DIRECTLY
  1. Renegades to be killed
  2. Apostates
  3. Princes, especially the Prince of Rome (the Pope) to be exterminated
  4. All Christians to be killed
  5. Killing a Christian is an acceptable sacrifice to God
  6. Heaven promised to those who kill Christians
  7. A Christian may be beheaded on the most solemn festivals
  8. The Messiah expected will be revengeful
  9. Jewish prayers against Christians
  10. Christian prayers for the Jews
  11. Objective of Jewish prayers is the destruction of Christianity
  12. Jews pray for a revengeful Messiah
 
  .../PART ONE
  .../PART TWO
  .../Back to Index
 
 
  
  
 
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Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celtic Mother Fuckers

2000-06-20 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

Go and kiss a few more of the world's most poisonous snakes, "Down Under"!
FWP

("On the Beach")
at Vancouver Centre,
FWP
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On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, David Sutherland wrote:

 ROTFLMAO

 Whops! Sorry! Forgot -  this a serious list!!!

 Well i see what you mean -  the honky "general" must be quite "eclectic" in
 his tastes ... takes it from ALL SIDES ... (ggg)

  he's still in search of his Gnostic "Mysteries", even for the WORLDS
 SMALLEST MAN, possibly an "alien" they "speak" to ... contained in the
 Bible, in Job 2:11, one named Bildad the "SHUHITE"  ()


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 Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 11:38 AM
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  On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, David Sutherland wrote:
 
   Say FWP? - I thought that honky Pink Swatsika got the boot from here
 (g)
  
   Homosexuality in the Nazi Party
   http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/pinkswastika/index.html
  
   I see his kicked Nazi ass is still stinging on your forum FWP!
 
  Heil, General (John) Lee - Stupid honky mo fo doesn't realize that AOL
  will allow you to
 
  SHIT ON ALL THAT IS HOLY AND DECENT,
 
  eg
 
  Call the Virgin Mary a cheap whore which is the OFFICIAL POSITION OF
  "ISRAEL" and Vatican, Inc. but
 
  "Because filth and blasphemy was the way of AOL and all of its
  Hitlerian-Stalinist 'lists'. Verily, verily."
  -Laminations 1:666
 
  The beat goes on.
 
  FWP
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Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celtic Mother Fxxxxxx

2000-06-20 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:

 On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Kris Millegan wrote:

  Please Mr. Foley, let us keep the headers "decent."
 
  Thank-you.
 
  Om
  K

 You are welcome, Om. IMe and Bender (my alter ego) are about to go out and
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Jeez Poley! You're such a fucking whoosey. Stand up for what you believe in.
You know Millegan is really an alien Jew from Jupiter don't you?

Hang tough baby.

Joshua2

PS: What do the X's stand for in Fxx?


 ...as will the "made-in-usa whores" like Grahams, Dobsons, Flawells, Pope
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Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celtic Mother Fxxxxxx

2000-06-20 Thread tenebroust

Profanity can serve a purpose when used for emphasis but profanity for the sake of 
shock is counterproductive.  What is your point anyway?  Do you want to post on and on 
about the holocaust "lie"?  Are you upset that people can say that some religions are 
full of bull?  Does it bother you that "jews" say the virgin Mary is a whore?  If you 
are trying to make a statement it is lost amidst the dross.


On Tue, 20 June 2000, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:


 On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Kris Millegan wrote:

  Please Mr. Foley, let us keep the headers "decent."
 
  Thank-you.
 
  Om
  K

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 Willies, Van Imps, Hagees et albut for different reasons.
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Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celtic Mother Fuckers

2000-06-20 Thread Nurev Ind Research

Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:

 On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, David Sutherland wrote:

  Say FWP? - I thought that honky Pink Swatsika got the boot from here (g)
 
  Homosexuality in the Nazi Party
  http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/pinkswastika/index.html
 
  I see his kicked Nazi ass is still stinging on your forum FWP!

 Heil, General (John) Lee - Stupid honky mo fo doesn't realize that AOL
 will allow you to

 SHIT ON ALL THAT IS HOLY AND DECENT,

 eg

 Call the Virgin Mary a cheap whore which is the OFFICIAL POSITION OF
 "ISRAEL" and Vatican, Inc. but

Poley you liar. No one ever said she was cheap. Let's see some documentation.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celtic Mother Fxxxxxx

2000-06-20 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote:

 Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:
 
  On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Kris Millegan wrote:
 
   Please Mr. Foley, let us keep the headers "decent."
  
   Thank-you.
  
   Om
   K
 
  You are welcome, Om. IMe and Bender (my alter ego) are about to go out and
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 You know Millegan is really an alien Jew from Jupiter don't you?

I stand, once again, humbled and corrected. Jupiter? How about Pluto?
FWP

 Hang tough baby.

 Joshua2

 PS: What do the X's stand for in Fxx?


  ...as will the "made-in-usa whores" like Grahams, Dobsons, Flawells, Pope
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Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celtic Mother Fuckers

2000-06-20 Thread David Sutherland

You do bitches in Vancouver?

We don't yet do snakes on Aussie beaches - but do have lotsa White
Poinders!!! (ggg)


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Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celtic Mother Fuckers


 Go and kiss a few more of the world's most poisonous snakes, "Down Under"!
 FWP

 ("On the Beach")
 at Vancouver Centre,
 FWP
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 On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, David Sutherland wrote:

  ROTFLMAO
 
  Whops! Sorry! Forgot -  this a serious list!!!
 
  Well i see what you mean -  the honky "general" must be quite "eclectic"
in
  his tastes ... takes it from ALL SIDES ... (ggg)
 
   he's still in search of his Gnostic "Mysteries", even for the WORLDS
  SMALLEST MAN, possibly an "alien" they "speak" to ... contained in the
  Bible, in Job 2:11, one named Bildad the "SHUHITE"  ()
 
 
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  Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 11:38 AM
  Subject: Re: [CTRL] SNET: Semitic Celtic Mother Fuckers
 
 
   On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, David Sutherland wrote:
  
Say FWP? - I thought that honky Pink Swatsika got the boot from here
  (g)
   
Homosexuality in the Nazi Party
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/pinkswastika/index.html
   
I see his kicked Nazi ass is still stinging on your forum FWP!
  
   Heil, General (John) Lee - Stupid honky mo fo doesn't realize that AOL
   will allow you to
  
   SHIT ON ALL THAT IS HOLY AND DECENT,
  
   eg
  
   Call the Virgin Mary a cheap whore which is the OFFICIAL POSITION OF
   "ISRAEL" and Vatican, Inc. but
  
   "Because filth and blasphemy was the way of AOL and all of its
   Hitlerian-Stalinist 'lists'. Verily, verily."
   -Laminations 1:666
  
   The beat goes on.
  
   FWP
   (LEZ)
  
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[CTRL] Tarot Card Assassins

2000-06-20 Thread Aleisha Saba

I have been working on something and Nicky I think you are in bed now,
but perhaps someone can assist me.

Has anyone ever heard of the Tarot Card Assassins.now Tarot Cards
are very sinister ancient Egyptian Cards.   Once my mother bought a deck
- her mother had photographic mind and was clairvoyant and had twin and
was like Corsican Brothers..he got hit, she felt it.   Boy when that
guy died I bet she sighed a sign of relief.

Anyway, the bible code/calendar is somehow keyed to Tarot CardsMEM -
stands for Hanged Man Fear Death by Waterfrom Ezekial's and the
Waste Land from where TS Eliot took samebut psychics play major
roles in murders of major importancemost royals follow astrology as
did Reagan.

Anyway - you have CUPS, WANDS, Slaughter of the Innocents, and so up.

Now following my code I believe little Jon Benet was murdered maybe
because of her mother too.remember how some called little JonBenet
"daddy's little whore" (forgive language).this stuff comes out of
bible and keyed to my bible code you have this scarlet evil lady - the
whore of Babylon with CUP in handCup signifies an award I think,
plus this little girl was not a Beauty Queen,maybe took little
Princess role, but she was only 6 years old and this equates also to
Moors Murders where a little girl tortured and murdered, and Detective
Tyrell (parents lived not far from me, but he was with Scotland Yard)
found key to murder IN BOOK OF PSALMS ON A SHELF.

Now also in book of Pslams Tyrell fund a slip of paper with locker
number leading to tapes of this murder - church bells tolled and the
music Santa Claus is Comin to town, because this little girl was
murdered on same date, as litle Jon Benet - Christmas Night..

Now CUPSPayne Stewart had just won the Ryder Cup.nest think you
know he was flying with his friends and all were dead.CUP is key
word here...JFK Jr., was Water for the Hanged Man fears death by
water, and is Catholic and hangs upside down.Teddy nearly met death
by water on this bridge and the Tarot Card Asassins were part of Mason
Famly and fronts for an intelligence operation for this I am positive.

Ancient Egyptian Cards.   Little Princess of Wales, said she wanted to
be Queen of Hearts and JFK Jr., was a King of Hearts as well.

So does anyone, maybe Nicky - undertand waht I am saying.

Last time my house was robbed my old information on Tarot Card Asassins
was lost, but I have enough yet to go on.

These are games people play - but the murder of Sharon Tate and little
JonBenet - these beautiful people - a little  6 year old girl and
Colorado Bundy had top off there and is place of intrigue.

Who are the Tarot Card Asassins.they have to be involved in deep
astrology and are spies for whom, assassins for whom - are familiar with
bible code and believe me - this stuff all merges into rings, and rings
- like old Anslinger once said - as for the Mafia, pulll up one string
of spagetti and up comes the whole plate.so they too thought Italian
when this thing is so evil, so deranged - it has to be a part of
MI6/CIA/Mossad/KGBbut I am thinking KGB involved and big money
involved.

Cui Bono?   Who profits..who would lose outif if JFK Jr. went for
that Senate seat?

119th Psalmsongs of degrees - MEM - remember.stands for Hanged
Man Fear Death by Watrelook at the plane crashes from Flight 800 and
even the Titanic keyed to ancient hymns of Atonthis is so evil it is
beyond belief.

Ramseys got away to safety for they feared for their lives.Look at
Littleton and say two kids pulled off all that stuff without having a
control?

The iniquities of the fathers visited upon the chidrenSlaughter of
the Innocents, Falling Towers (commu;nication breakdown), CUPS may stand
for Ryder Cup Stewart and his strange death and little JonBenet - so
strange that the murder was patterned after Moors Murders and Tyrell the
Inspector from Scotland Yard thought linked to JFK murders.

History is repeating itself again only this time it is only FORTY YEARS
LATER.the last push to take over and go into NWO and perform acts of
genocide- destroying the innocents of our children...and then
destroying our children with drugs and filth and garbage for their
innocent minds to see on TV and in movies - protect your children - for
they want to destroy this entire generation except for a select few -
the money changers.

A. Saba
Dare To Call It Conspiracy

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Re: [CTRL] Semitic Celts

2000-06-20 Thread Nurev Ind Research

 Nicky Molloy wrote:

Molloy, Molloy, h...Oh now I get it YOU are a Semitic Celt.
How blind are those who will not see. YOU are the chosenite. What a
fool I am. All these years I thought I was the chosenite.

Screw genetics. Nicky has presented PROOF up to her ususal standards.

Sad ex-chosenite,
Joshua2

 -Original Message-
 From: yair davidi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, 21 June 2000 09:19
 Subject: Semitic Celts

 Extract from "Lost Israelite Identity" by Yair Davidy
 Chapter Seventeen
 THE ISRAELITE AND NORTH AFRICAN LINKS OF THE INSULAR CELTS IN THE LIGHT OF
 LINGUISTICS. The Question of Alphabetical Lettering.
 
  The Irish legends are compatible with Israelite origins. They presuppose
 having originally come from the Middle East AND often speak of arriving in
 Spain via North Africa. A Moroccan Jewish legend1 says that when the Ten
 tribes were exiled part of the tribe of Ephraim reached Morocco. They ruled
 over the land until the time of Ezra (ca.457-445 b.c.e.) at which period
 their rule was lost.  In many respects North Africa and Spain in early
 times were often effectually one entity.
  The Irish, Scottish, and Welsh, and many of the ancient Britons and Gauls
 spoke forms of Celtic. Celtic is considered an Indo-European tongue related
 to Latin. The Celts apparently received the Indo-European aspects of their
 language and culture from peoples they had conquered on the Continent
 before continuing their westward trek. Linguistic examinations of the
 speech of the Welsh and Irish reveal a form of Celtic in which there is an
 underlying speech element similar to that found in North Africa. North
 African languages are classified as "Hamitic". Egyptian and Berber are
 Hamitic tongues. They have an affinity with Semitic languages and local
 dialects in various parts of the Middle East occasionally exhibit Hamitic
 features. Aspects of Hamitic speech are also found in Biblical Hebrew but
 they are not emphasised. Most of the ancient Canaanite peoples adopted a
 language similar to Hebrew though both Indo-European and Hamitic languages
 must also have been known to them . The Phoenician use of Hebrew has
 characteristics of a foreign tongue adopted by them2. There also exist
 Arabic dialects which are Hamitic or reveal a Hamitic substratum. Not only
 that but the impression is that much of the difference between Hamitic and
 Semitic is more one of emphasis than of substance. Dialects of Hebrew
 within the Land of Israel could well have absorbed Hamitic elements.
  Insular British Celtic tongues, especially colloquial Welsh, says
 W.H.Worrell3, show certain peculiarities which are reminiscent of Hamitic
 and Semitic tongues and are unparalleled in Aryan languages. Similarly,
 according to H.Wagner:
 
  "Irish..has as many features in common with non-Indo-European languages,
 especially with Hamito-Semitic languages, as  with other Indo-European
 languages"4.
 
 "Insular Celtic languages.. the grammatical categories having many
 affinities with non-Indo-European languages, in particular Basque and
 Berber"5.
 
  "The comparative typology of insular Celtic initiated by Morris Jones
 and further developed by Pokorny, G.B.Adams, and myself has revealed that
 most of the many peculiar features of insular Celtic rarely traceable in
 other Indo-European languages have analogies in Basque, Berber, Egyptian,
 Semitic, and even in Negro languages"6.
 
"Certain features [(of marginal influence only)] of Old Irish verb
 forms can be understood only in the light of Hittite, Vedic, Sanskrit, and
 Mycenean Greek"7.
 
 J.Morris Jones said that,
 
  "The pre-Aryan idioms which still live in Welsh and Irish were derived
 from a language allied to Egyptian  tongues"8.
 
  The above linguistic remarks show that Insular Celtic (i.e. of Britain
 and Ireland as distinct from the Continental forms which were somewhat
 different) is consistent with the claims proposed herein: i.e. The original
 tongue of the Insular Celts was Semitic (Hebrew) which marginally was
 influenced by Mycenean Greek, Hittite, Indo-European (Sanskrit), Syrian,
 Mitanni, and what not. Heavy Hamitic influences may be attributable to
 those of some of the neighbouring peoples, such as the Canaanites, and
 Egyptians, and to having sojourned in a North African environment. In
 addition, the natives of Spain amongst whom the Insular Celts or a good
 portion of them once dwelt, traded with, and fought against, were also at
 least in part of North African Berber related Hamitic origin. This
 explanation may sound involved and complicated but it accords with the
 evidence when archaeological, anthropological, mythological, and linguistic
 findings are compared with each other. At all events the natives of Ireland
 and Wales must have used a Hamitic and/or Semitic tongue(s) before they
 came into contact with Continental Indo-European ones.
 
 
 HEBREW  IN WELSH???
 
  It was seen above 

Re: [CTRL] Tarot Card Assassins

2000-06-20 Thread David Sutherland

Shesh

It IS "COLLEEN"

Last time i saw the Tarot used was in a film called the "Red Violin" - you
seen it?


- Original Message -
From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:51 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Tarot Card Assassins


 I have been working on something and Nicky I think you are in bed now,
 but perhaps someone can assist me.

 Has anyone ever heard of the Tarot Card Assassins.now Tarot Cards
 are very sinister ancient Egyptian Cards.   Once my mother bought a deck
 - her mother had photographic mind and was clairvoyant and had twin and
 was like Corsican Brothers..he got hit, she felt it.   Boy when that
 guy died I bet she sighed a sign of relief.

 Anyway, the bible code/calendar is somehow keyed to Tarot CardsMEM -
 stands for Hanged Man Fear Death by Waterfrom Ezekial's and the
 Waste Land from where TS Eliot took samebut psychics play major
 roles in murders of major importancemost royals follow astrology as
 did Reagan.

 Anyway - you have CUPS, WANDS, Slaughter of the Innocents, and so up.

 Now following my code I believe little Jon Benet was murdered maybe
 because of her mother too.remember how some called little JonBenet
 "daddy's little whore" (forgive language).this stuff comes out of
 bible and keyed to my bible code you have this scarlet evil lady - the
 whore of Babylon with CUP in handCup signifies an award I think,
 plus this little girl was not a Beauty Queen,maybe took little
 Princess role, but she was only 6 years old and this equates also to
 Moors Murders where a little girl tortured and murdered, and Detective
 Tyrell (parents lived not far from me, but he was with Scotland Yard)
 found key to murder IN BOOK OF PSALMS ON A SHELF.

 Now also in book of Pslams Tyrell fund a slip of paper with locker
 number leading to tapes of this murder - church bells tolled and the
 music Santa Claus is Comin to town, because this little girl was
 murdered on same date, as litle Jon Benet - Christmas Night..

 Now CUPSPayne Stewart had just won the Ryder Cup.nest think you
 know he was flying with his friends and all were dead.CUP is key
 word here...JFK Jr., was Water for the Hanged Man fears death by
 water, and is Catholic and hangs upside down.Teddy nearly met death
 by water on this bridge and the Tarot Card Asassins were part of Mason
 Famly and fronts for an intelligence operation for this I am positive.

 Ancient Egyptian Cards.   Little Princess of Wales, said she wanted to
 be Queen of Hearts and JFK Jr., was a King of Hearts as well.

 So does anyone, maybe Nicky - undertand waht I am saying.

 Last time my house was robbed my old information on Tarot Card Asassins
 was lost, but I have enough yet to go on.

 These are games people play - but the murder of Sharon Tate and little
 JonBenet - these beautiful people - a little  6 year old girl and
 Colorado Bundy had top off there and is place of intrigue.

 Who are the Tarot Card Asassins.they have to be involved in deep
 astrology and are spies for whom, assassins for whom - are familiar with
 bible code and believe me - this stuff all merges into rings, and rings
 - like old Anslinger once said - as for the Mafia, pulll up one string
 of spagetti and up comes the whole plate.so they too thought Italian
 when this thing is so evil, so deranged - it has to be a part of
 MI6/CIA/Mossad/KGBbut I am thinking KGB involved and big money
 involved.

 Cui Bono?   Who profits..who would lose outif if JFK Jr. went for
 that Senate seat?

 119th Psalmsongs of degrees - MEM - remember.stands for Hanged
 Man Fear Death by Watrelook at the plane crashes from Flight 800 and
 even the Titanic keyed to ancient hymns of Atonthis is so evil it is
 beyond belief.

 Ramseys got away to safety for they feared for their lives.Look at
 Littleton and say two kids pulled off all that stuff without having a
 control?

 The iniquities of the fathers visited upon the chidrenSlaughter of
 the Innocents, Falling Towers (commu;nication breakdown), CUPS may stand
 for Ryder Cup Stewart and his strange death and little JonBenet - so
 strange that the murder was patterned after Moors Murders and Tyrell the
 Inspector from Scotland Yard thought linked to JFK murders.

 History is repeating itself again only this time it is only FORTY YEARS
 LATER.the last push to take over and go into NWO and perform acts of
 genocide- destroying the innocents of our children...and then
 destroying our children with drugs and filth and garbage for their
 innocent minds to see on TV and in movies - protect your children - for
 they want to destroy this entire generation except for a select few -
 the money changers.

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Re: [CTRL] VATICAN (was) Talmud Unmasked

2000-06-20 Thread Nicky Molloy

Thanks David what would we do without you ; )

Actually he's not JUST a Catholic but he was

Master of Theology and Professor
 of the Hebrew Language at the Imperial Ecclesiastical
 Academy of the Roman Catholic Church
 in Old St. Petersburg.


A man,

with a foreign sounding name,

gee he may have even have been a Russian, and since they didn't have
communism then he MAY HAVE THE POTENTIAL to be a communist if he had lived
long enough,
 y'know actually living in St Petersberg,
I mean some of his rellies may have become communists, SO HE IS GUILTY BY
ASSOCIATION,

probably old,
probably heading towards alzheimers as they do get it sometimes when they
are old, and he was more than likely oldish

and

a Catholic.
oops he may have been in any one of those 6 divisions of Catholicism, y'know
Knights of Malta, opus Dei, heck we could blame that too for him writing
about the Talmud.

Nicky
ps 1 in 8 Aussies have criminal ancestors

-Original Message-
From: David Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Wednesday, 21 June 2000 12:02
Subject: [CTRL] VATICAN (was) Talmud Unmasked


Well, the "Talmud Unmasked", concocted by a stooge of a totalitarian
religio-political parasite of humankind, the Vatican.

ROTFLMAO Nicky Babe!!!

Bit like Dracula "unmasking" the Werewolf or closer to reality, Hitler
"unmasking" Stalin.

Try some of these:

THE VATICAN HOLOCAUST
http://www.reformation.org/holocaus.html

The Shocking Story of the Catholic "Church's" Role in Starting the Vietnam
War
http://www.reformation.org/vietnam.html

Secret Instructions of the Jesuits - Revealed at Last!!
http://www.reformation.org/secret.html

The Last Great Inquisition!!
http://www.reformation.org/inquisit.html

Assassination of President Kennedy - Solved at Last!!
http://www.reformation.org/kennedy.html

Assassination of President Lincoln
http://www.reformation.org/lincoln.html

 JUST for STARTERS Nicky! (ggg)



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From: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [CTRL] Talmud Unmasked


 Subject: Talmud Unmasked


 Index to Talmud Unmasked
 http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmudx.htm#Talmud Unmasked
 http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/natural.htm

 The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians

 By

 Rev. I. B. Pranaitis

 Roman Catholic Priest; Master of Theology and Professor
 of the Hebrew Language at the Imperial Ecclesiastical
 Academy of the Roman Catholic Church
 in Old St. Petersburg.

 St. Petersburg
 Printing office of the
 Imperial Academy of Sciences
 1892


 --
--
 

 ANTIPHONE
 PROLOGUE
 DESCRIPTION OF THE TALMUD
 SOURCE
 PART ONE
 THE TEACHING OF THE TALMUD CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
 CHAPTER I - JESUS CHRIST IN THE TALMUD
 Article I. - CONCERNING THE NAMES OF JESUS CHRIST
 Article II. - THE LIFE OF CHRIST
 Note About The Cross
 Article III. - THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST
 CHAPTER II - CHRISTIANS IN THE TALMUD
 Article I. - The Names Given to Christians in the Talmud
 Article II. - What the Talmud Teaches About Christians
 Article III. - Christian Worship
 PART TWO
 PRECEPTS OF THE TALMUD CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
 CHAPTER I - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE AVOIDED
 Article I. - Christians Unworthy to Share With Jews
 Article II. - Christians Are Unclean
 Article III. - Christians Are Idolaters
 Article IV. - Christians Are Evil
 CHAPTER II - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE EXTERMINATED
 Article I. - CHRISTIANS TO BE HARMED INDIRECTLY
 I. By not helping them
 II. By interfering in their work
 III. By deceit in legal matters
 IV. By harming them in things necessary for life
 Article II. - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE HARMED DIRECTLY
 1. Renegades to be killed
 2. Apostates
 3. Princes, especially the Prince of Rome (the Pope) to be exterminated
 4. All Christians to be killed
 5. Killing a Christian is an acceptable sacrifice to God
 6. Heaven promised to those who kill Christians
 7. A Christian may be beheaded on the most solemn festivals
 8. The Messiah expected will be revengeful
 9. Jewish prayers against Christians
 10. Christian prayers for the Jews
 11. Objective of Jewish prayers is the destruction of Christianity
 12. Jews pray for a revengeful Messiah

 .../PART ONE
 .../PART TWO
 .../Back to Index


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[CTRL] FW: Aspartame Toxicity 6.2.00: Trocho 6.26.98

2000-06-20 Thread lloyd

..

From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:

From: Alex Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: Aspartame Toxicity 6.2.00: Trocho 6.26.98
Date: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 4:50 PM


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From: Rich Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:44:24 -0600
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Subject: Aspartame Toxicity 6.2.00: Trocho 6.26.98


Aspartame Toxicity  6.2.00: Trocho 6.26.98

Rich Murray   Room For All
1943 Otowi Drive, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505
505-986-9103  505-920-6130 cell   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[B.A., M.I.T. 1964, M.A., Boston U. 1967: a layman committed to
facilitating civil debate on aspartame toxicity]

Aspartame (NutraSweet, Equal, Canderel, Benevia) is reported by many
scientific studies and case histories to be toxic: headaches, all kinds
of body and joint pain (or burning, tingling, tremors, twitching,
spasms, cramps, or numbness);  "mind fog", "feel unreal", poor memory,
confusion, anxiety, irritability, depression, mania, insomnia,
dizziness, slurred speech, ringing in ears, sexual problems, nausea,
seizures, poor vision, hearing, or taste; fever, fatigue;  red face,
itching, rashes, burning eyes or throat, dry mouth or eyes, mouth
sores; hair loss;  obesity, bloating, edema, poor or excessive hunger
or thirst, anorexia; coldness; diarrhea or constipation; breathing
problems; racing heart, high blood pressure, erratic blood sugar
levels; birth defects; brain cancers.

Users who quit often experience much immediate healing, but some
symptoms may last for weeks. Heavy users may suffer weeks of painful
withdrawal symptoms.  Also avoid all forms of MSG (glutamate),
legally mislabeled as "hydrolyzed vegetable protein" or even
"natural flavoring".  Some versions of RC Diet Rite Cola use Splenda
(sucralose) and Acesulfame-K, far less hazardous than asp., but
so far available only in a few areas. It's fun to mix club soda with
juices. A long-used herbal sweetener, stevia, is entirely safe and
widely available.  A corrupt FDA has refused to attest its safety:
www.holisticmed.com/sweet/stv-alert.txt

Read all labels!-- aspartame is in almost all diet sodas; many drink
mixes, instant breakfasts, cereals, cake mixes, yogurts, puddings,
jellos, chewing gums, breath mints, candies, toothpastes, laxatives,
cough syrups, even vitamins and medicines. Absorption through the skin
in the mouth may be especially strong.

Three careful double-blind experimental studies prove aspartame
causes headaches:  Koehler SM et al, 1988, Headache, 28(1), 10-14.
Shirley Koehler, PhD  904-858-7651  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Walton RG et al, 1993, Biological Psychiatry, 34(1), 13-17.
Prof. Ralph G. Walton  330-740-3621  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Van Den Eeden SK et al, 1994, Neurology, 44, 1787-93.
Steven K. Van Den Eeden, PhD  550-450-2202  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Woodrow C. Monte, Director, Food Science and Nutrition Laboratory
602-965-6938  Arizona State University, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Aspartame: Methanol and the Public Health," 1984,
J. Applied Nutrition, 36(1), 42-54 (62 references):
The methanol from 2 L of diet soda, 5.6 12-oz cans, 20 mg/can, is
112 mg, 10% of the asp. The EPA limit for water is 7.8 mg daily for
methanol (wood alcohol), a deadly cumulative poison.  Many users
drink 1-2 L daily.  The reported symptoms are entirely consistent
with chronic methanol toxicity.  (Fresh orange juice has 34 mg/L, but,
like all juices, has 16 times more ethanol, which strongly protects
against methanol.)  www.dorway.com/wmonte.txt

A radioactive tracer study proves that the methanol from a low dose of
of aspartame binds formaldehyde, a deadly cumulative poison, into
tissues: Trocho C et al, June 26 1998, Life Sci, 63(5), 337-349.
www.PRESIDIOTEX.COM/barcelona/index.html

Lennart Hardell, M.D., PhD, in 1999 reported in Sweden that both
cell phone use and heavy aspartame use correlate with increased
brain cancers:  www.medscape.com/MedGenMed/braintumors

Who pays the piper, calls the tune.  Ralph G. Walton, Prof. of
Clinical Psychology, Northeastern Ohio Universities, Youngstown,
OH 44501, 330-740-3621  [EMAIL PROTECTED] , in an unpublished
66-page study (1998), listed 166 studies about asp. and health. All
74 studies funded by the industry were favorable, whereas 84 of the 92
non-industry studies identified a problem. Moreover, many industry
studies were published repeatedly with slight changes, from 2 to 6
times each, violating scientific ethics.  www.dorway.com/peerrev.html
Al Raetz has justly criticized bias in both sides of the debate:
www.aspartametruth.freeservers.com/personal.html

Asp. Victims Support Group Home Page www.presidiotex.com/aspartame/

Aspartame Toxicity Information CenterMark D. Gold
www.HolisticMed.com/aspartame  603-225-2100
"Scientific Abuse in Aspartame Research"
www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/abuse/methanol.html
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  12 East Side Drive #2-18 Concord, NH 03301


Re: [CTRL] Americans Narrowing Support for Abortion

2000-06-20 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

Actually it's a control thing.  No woman who doesn't want an abortion will
ever be forced to have one, at least not by the State.  I remember laughing
when Casey said he thought women should be required to tell their husband.  I
laughed because the only two women I have ever known who had abortions did so
because their husbands required it.  One was a Catholic.  It was before
abortion was legal, but he told her she would either have an abortion or a
divorce.  The other woman was a Moslem, and her husband insisted she have
abortions after they had a certain number of children.  Notice he made no
attempt to practice birth control.  Not that birth control is a relative
issue, because those who think no woman should ever be allowed an abortion
also think no one should practice birth control.  You end up with the old
Romanian method.  Orphanages full of miserable, mistreated chidren--but no
nasty abortions.  Yes they tend to die fairly quickly if they are lucky, but
this way they get to suffer first.  Didn't Christ say, "Suffer the little
children to come on to me?  He probably just didn't phrase it right.  What he
meant was, "Be sure the little children suffer before they come on to me."
Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Tarot Card Assassins

2000-06-20 Thread Aleisha Saba

No - the Red Violin?  Give me run down and when was this movie made?
Was it ficton for these people are real.   And who is real - Colleen
Saba - the Sabeans were the spies in Job were they not?

I studied violin for over 12 years and I say I was good.   David
Sutherland is that an aka.maybe  have multpersonaliity to deal wth
multicultural world?

So Colleen - we had the same teacher - shared te same script.

Red Violin.was it Russian movie?

Thanks you David and will try to track that on down.   And I am so proud
to know FRANKLIN WAYNE POLEY who had ancestor who invented BAGELhas
anyone invened BAGAL HOLES yet.Dr. Poley could make fortune.

A Saba

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Re: [CTRL] VATICAN (was) Talmud Unmasked

2000-06-20 Thread David Sutherland

G'day "Prolly this, prolly that, prolly-prolly" Nicksie!!!

Nicksie - i think surely now you hold this forums reputation as the
"PROBABLY" girl (ggg) but i lovesya anyway!

Well Nick's, prolly if you leave off with them NZ gumboots and sheep one
day, and venture down to Aussie World - i'd sure like to buy you a Fosters
beer!!!  BURP!!!   Question is - are you a good looking FEMME to be seen
here??? (gg)

I mean, you've gotta be a top looking bird to be seen on the arm of this
blonde, blue-eyed, sun-bronzed, firmly-sculptured and stallionesque Aussie!
(ggg)

So don't say "prolly" Nicks, just come on "Down Under" toots - love to have
ya!!!


BTW - did you know that Jesuit priests wrote the "Protocols of Zion" another
anti-semitic piece of Vatican propoganda- one of hundreds from its centuries
old FORGERY MILL! Why does the pope - the pappa that dresses like mamma,
where that hilarious Rabbis cap? Did you know Fox saint Rupert Murdoch, in
one of his divine Catholic Knighlty gestures gave $10,000,000 to the Vatican
coffers - what a saintly chap he is ... eh? saint Nicks?





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From: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] VATICAN (was) Talmud Unmasked


 Thanks David what would we do without you ; )

 Actually he's not JUST a Catholic but he was

 Master of Theology and Professor
  of the Hebrew Language at the Imperial Ecclesiastical
  Academy of the Roman Catholic Church
  in Old St. Petersburg.


 A man,

 with a foreign sounding name,

 gee he may have even have been a Russian, and since they didn't have
 communism then he MAY HAVE THE POTENTIAL to be a communist if he had lived
 long enough,
  y'know actually living in St Petersberg,
 I mean some of his rellies may have become communists, SO HE IS GUILTY BY
 ASSOCIATION,

 probably old,
 probably heading towards alzheimers as they do get it sometimes when they
 are old, and he was more than likely oldish

 and

 a Catholic.
 oops he may have been in any one of those 6 divisions of Catholicism,
y'know
 Knights of Malta, opus Dei, heck we could blame that too for him writing
 about the Talmud.

 Nicky
 ps 1 in 8 Aussies have criminal ancestors

 -Original Message-
 From: David Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, 21 June 2000 12:02
 Subject: [CTRL] VATICAN (was) Talmud Unmasked


 Well, the "Talmud Unmasked", concocted by a stooge of a totalitarian
 religio-political parasite of humankind, the Vatican.

 ROTFLMAO Nicky Babe!!!

 Bit like Dracula "unmasking" the Werewolf or closer to reality, Hitler
 "unmasking" Stalin.

 Try some of these:

 THE VATICAN HOLOCAUST
 http://www.reformation.org/holocaus.html

 The Shocking Story of the Catholic "Church's" Role in Starting the Vietnam
 War
 http://www.reformation.org/vietnam.html

 Secret Instructions of the Jesuits - Revealed at Last!!
 http://www.reformation.org/secret.html

 The Last Great Inquisition!!
 http://www.reformation.org/inquisit.html

 Assassination of President Kennedy - Solved at Last!!
 http://www.reformation.org/kennedy.html

 Assassination of President Lincoln
 http://www.reformation.org/lincoln.html

  JUST for STARTERS Nicky! (ggg)



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 Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 9:35 PM
 Subject: [CTRL] Talmud Unmasked


  Subject: Talmud Unmasked
 
 
  Index to Talmud Unmasked
  http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmudx.htm#Talmud Unmasked
  http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/natural.htm
 
  The Secret Rabbinical Teachings Concerning Christians
 
  By
 
  Rev. I. B. Pranaitis
 
  Roman Catholic Priest; Master of Theology and Professor
  of the Hebrew Language at the Imperial Ecclesiastical
  Academy of the Roman Catholic Church
  in Old St. Petersburg.
 
  St. Petersburg
  Printing office of the
  Imperial Academy of Sciences
  1892
 
 

 --
 --
  
 
  ANTIPHONE
  PROLOGUE
  DESCRIPTION OF THE TALMUD
  SOURCE
  PART ONE
  THE TEACHING OF THE TALMUD CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
  CHAPTER I - JESUS CHRIST IN THE TALMUD
  Article I. - CONCERNING THE NAMES OF JESUS CHRIST
  Article II. - THE LIFE OF CHRIST
  Note About The Cross
  Article III. - THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST
  CHAPTER II - CHRISTIANS IN THE TALMUD
  Article I. - The Names Given to Christians in the Talmud
  Article II. - What the Talmud Teaches About Christians
  Article III. - Christian Worship
  PART TWO
  PRECEPTS OF THE TALMUD CONCERNING CHRISTIANS
  CHAPTER I - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE AVOIDED
  Article I. - Christians Unworthy to Share With Jews
  Article II. - Christians Are Unclean
  Article III. - Christians Are Idolaters
  Article IV. - Christians Are Evil
  CHAPTER II - CHRISTIANS ARE TO BE EXTERMINATED
  Article I. - CHRISTIANS TO BE HARMED INDIRECTLY
  I. By not helping them
  II. By interfering in their work
  III. By 

[CTRL] Doubles doubles toil and troubles

2000-06-20 Thread Kelly

Hello CTRL List!

Now, I hope someone here can help me.  My ISP changed my email address
from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] without telling me, as
netcom was taken over by ATT.

So.  I resubscribed under my new address and yet I cannot unsubscribe
from my old address, so I am getting doubles of everything.  What can I
do?  Any ideas?

Oh!  Also, I have started an email list to which I will post strange
news stories and other things - it is not a mainly conspiracy list, as
this one does that excellently!  But if anyone is interested, here's the
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If you would like to subscribe, just go to this URL:


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And thank you anyone who can help me with my doubles problem!

Oh!  Maybe you can Kris?  Can you unsubscribe the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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as all my messages now go out with the attcanada.ca address.

Sorry for bothering the list with this problem!

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Re: [CTRL] Tarot Card Assassins

2000-06-20 Thread Kelly

Aleisha Saba wrote:

 No - the Red Violin?  Give me run down and when was this movie made?

The Red Violin is an *excellent* movie - I believe it is Canadian - it
is well worth seeing, and you should be able to get it on video now.
The movie basically follows the owners of the red vilion from when it
was made centuries ago until the present day.  The tarot plays an
interesting role in the movie, as it shows how prophesy can be grossly
misinterpreted.

Kelly

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Re: [CTRL] Tarot Card Assassins

2000-06-20 Thread Aleisha Saba

Thank you Kelly.this essentially sounds like what I worked on in 70
and late 60 period - and these people were hooked up to Manson.

Like those ink blot tests, forget what they call them - different people
see different things.   This is how Tarot Cards and these phoney
psychics can like a Nostrodamus be used for political propaganda -
planting dangrous thoughts, and self fulfilling prophecies - planting
seeds of hatred and destruction - but someone let us say in the Royal
Society know the evil played out here and believe me this bunch is
alive.

My mother followed astrology and my friend was astrologer and knew how
it could be used for evil by wrong people..but it is a communication
also - like maybe a Tiger Bright in the Night .

So by the way - first write your listserver and tell them you get
duplicates - try to unsubscribe from 2nd list or one of the lists, but
you might lose your name in so doing.

Write them letter and they will fix it...E groups and One List had
similar problem - when they merged, you had two diffrent passwords
maybe, but I always used same password.

So tell them to get your account straightened out and at same time try
unsubscribing from one list and see what happens.   Worked for me but
for a while big pain in neck.

Thanks again...strange this movie has not been shown in USA to my
knowledge, but I am going to try to find on web.   Didn't know they made
Canadian moves - where is Canada (just kidding Dr. Poley)

A. Saba
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