[CTRL] Let's Learn From (and About) Other World Religions, Speaker Says
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sltrib.com/10142000/utah/33022.htm Let's Learn From (and About) Other World Religions, Speaker Says Be it Jesus, Buddha, Moses or Mohammed, understanding the meaning today of the religions they founded requires mining truth from myth and exploring the hearts of the sects' believers, a noted theologian says. Still, it is only Christianity, its holy writ subject to centuries of critical study unparalleled in non-Western religious traditions, that has been examined with unbridled academic freedom, contends James M. Robinson, an emeritus professor of religion at Claremont Graduate University in California. Robinson spoke Thursday at the "Great Religious Teachers and Their Contemporary Relevance" conference hosted by the Center for the Study of Ethics at Utah Valley State College. In a paper prepared for the conference, Robinson said he lamented that "the founding figure of most ancient religions is so taken up into the mythology of the religion that a distinction can hardly be drawn between fact and fiction. "What can be said about the historical Zarathustra [founder of Zoroastrianism] and [Buddhism's] Gautama, or even Moses and Mohammed, in distinction from the religious image?" he asked. But much can be, and has been, said on the subject regarding Jesus of Nazareth. For at least two centuries since the dawn of the Enlightenment, "Christian origins can be sifted through with some reliability, to distinguish what can be traced back to Jesus himself and what can be best explained as derived from Christian faith," Robinson said. Such academic freedom has not come without heated debate, with fundamentalist Christians denouncing any effort to strip Jesus of his deity and liberal Christians trying to define a so-called "historical Jesus" while applying his message in modern contexts. Still, that such discussion is tolerated and even encouraged about Christianity's roots and applications today remains a rarity for other faiths of antiquity, Robinson said. "One may merely compare the status of the author ofThe Satanic Verses [Salman Rushdie, forced into hiding after Muslim leaders threatened him with death for heresy] in Islam today with the status of members of the Society of Biblical Literature in America [a respected center for critical biblical scholarship]," he said. The relevance of Buddhism to the West was addressed in a paper by California State University's James Santucci, one of several other scholars participating in the two-day conference. The comparative-religion professor maintained that the West, moving toward secularism, may be ripe for the ancient ethical teachings of the Eastern religion. "[Buddhism] represents more of a challenge to those within the Judeo-Christian tradition because of teachings that appear to be counterintuitive to the concept of a religion," Santucci said, noting that Buddhism does not teach the existence of a Supreme Being and differs on the nature of sin. While Judeo-Christian and Islamic teaching is that sin is an act of disobedience to God, Buddhists tend to see sin as more equivalent to action taken out of spiritual ignorance. Both faiths offer rewards for adhering to their founders' teachings: Christianity promises salvation and heaven, while Buddhism holds out hope for an eventual end to the cycle of rebirth and achievement of spiritual purification and bliss, Nirvana. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
[CTRL] [Regarding that steal tape] REU: U.S. Wants Access to Port Video Held by Yemen
-Caveat Lector- Sunday October 15 11:59 AM ET Report: U.S. Wants Access to Port Video Held by Yemen WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. investigators struggling to discover who ordered last week's deadly attack on the USS Cole are especially anxious to get their hands on video from four port surveillance cameras seized by Yemeni secret police, Newsweek magazine said in a report to appear on newsstands on Monday. U.S. investigators in the Yemeni port of Aden, including agents from the FBI (news - web sites), a marine security platoon and the Foreign Emergency Support Team, also want to talk to port workers and relatives detained by police after Thursday's blast, Newsweek reported. U.S. Navy officials say a small boat helping to moor the Cole had been laden with explosives in advance and blew up alongside the ship, punching a huge hole in one of the world's most sophisticated guided missile destroyers. Seventeen U.S. sailors were killed in the blast. Two little-known Muslim groups have said they attacked the destroyer. One group has previously been linked to the kidnapping of tourists and the bombing of a hotel in Aden. However, such claims are often suspect because ``terrorists share resources and use different identities to suit their needs,'' Newsweek reported, citing unidentified U.S. sources. Saudi exile Osama bin Laden, has repeatedly vowed to strike U.S. military targets in the Middle East, Newsweek noted, citing a video aired by a satellite television station in the Emirate of Qatar two weeks ago in which bin Laden appeared flanked by two Egyptian lieutenants. Citing the need to free militants in prisons in the United States, Egypt and Saudi Arabia, one of bin Laden's lieutenants said it was ``time to take action against the iniquitous and faithless force (the United States) which has spread troops through Egypt, Yemen and Saudi Arabia,'' the magazine reported. Intelligence analysts took special note of the reference to Yemen following last week's attack, Newsweek said. Other possible culprits include Iraq, Yemeni Marxists and the Lebanese fundamentalist group Hizbullah, Newsweek said in an article to appear in its Oct. 23 issue. In that article, Newsweek cited ``authoritative'' U.S. sources as saying U.S. intelligence has thwarted at least two other terrorist plots directed at U.S. Navy ships visiting ports around the Arabian Peninsula in the last two years. The magazine, citing sources privy to an April meeting between Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh and President Clinton (news - web sites), said Saleh expressed a willingness to cooperate but at the same time told Clinton he did not believe terrorists were operating in his country. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Y2k problems for Commonwealth Bank?
-Caveat Lector- I struck trouble with this this morning. All the (Australian) Commonwealth Savings Banks ATMs, Australia wide, wouldn't give out more than $50. I believe this was clearly a Y2K contingency in case of a run on the bank. http://www.theage.com.au/frontpage/20001016/A54106-2000Oct16.html Commonwealth ATMs working again By XAVIER LA CANNA THE AGE ONLINE Monday 16 October 2000 Commonwealth Bank automatic teller machines across Australia malfunctioned this morning, stopping thousands of customers withdrawing more than $50 or using EFTPOS facilities. Bank spokesman Byran Fitzgerald said the cause of the mishap was unknown, but all facilities were operational again at 11.45am. He said any customers who used another bank's ATM during the disruption would not be charged a fee for the transaction. Mr Fitzgerald said the cause of the problem is still unknown, but it was fixed after technicians reset the bank's computer system. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Australian inhabitants
-Caveat Lector- Well at least you got that right. Most of history's conflicts were about shifting populations. With the exception of Australia's Aboriginals, no group is sitting on real estate that wasn't someone else's NOT EVEN THE AMERICAN INDIANS Well, there are signs of previous peoples on the Australian continent (particularly the Bradford art people), either before or coexisting with the Aborigines (depending who'se dates you accept). However it's a big place and given the rough conditions there probably weren't large populations, so it wasn't much of an issue. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Symbolism and bombings
-Caveat Lector- It just came to me, reading one of these posts, that the bombing/sabotage of the USS 'Cole' could be a symbolic psy-op to affect the American Psyche. Cole of course = Coal (the subconscious doesn't make such distinctions" What do you think of when you think of coal? Oil. Coal and Oil. Biscuits and cheese. bread and butter. So if a war apparently over oil starts (which is odd as has been pointed out, Israel seems to be one of the few places in the Mid East without Oil) people will accept it as being inevitable. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The controversy continues over Jesus being married (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:06:57 + From: Ancient Manuscripts Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The controversy continues over Jesus being married Ancient Manuscripts Mailing List - http://www.ancientmanuscripts.com THE CONTROVERY CONTINUES: JESUS WAS MARRIED Perhaps the most compelling argument against the fact that Jesus was married has been the issue of sex becoming the Original Sin in our day. Certainly if sex were a sin then Jesus could not have participated. Nowhere in the Old Testament does God define the Original Sin as the sexual act. In fact before Adam and Eve were cast out of the Garden of Eden God told them in Gen 1: 28 to multiply and replenish the earth. If anything the act of procreation was a commandment and not a sin. The Original Sin is defined in Gen 2: 16-17. God told Adam that he could partake of any fruit of the Garden except the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Notice that Eve is not present at this time. She is created as a helpmate for Adam in the next two verses Gen: 18-19. One can only suspect whether or not Eve completely understood the commandment if she was not there when God presented it in the first place. Certainly Adam explained the idea to her somewhere along the line, but perhaps there continued to be a difference in understanding between Adam and Eve on this particular point. It wouldnt have been the first time in history that man and woman had different ideas about the same subject. Now lets look at the punishment attached to the violation of the partaking of the fruit of the tree. God said in Gen 1: 17, For in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. There are two very import types of death implied by this eating of the fruit. Lets focus on the word Day. When Eve gave to Adam of the fruit that day they were cast out from the Garden of Eden. That was a spiritual death of sorts because it separated Adam from the immediate and continuous presence of God, which he enjoyed in the Garden of Eden. In the Garden Adam walked and talked with God. The second issue concerning the word day is a much broader concept. Physical death was introduced into the Garden the day Adam partook of the fruit. Enoch in the book Secrets of Enoch at http://www.ishopper.com/manuscripts/~RN=5002 was among the first to suggest that the Day of the Lord was equal to a thousand mortal years. If that is true then we understand why the oldest man on record who has ever lived was Methuselah. (Gen 5: 25-26) He was 969 years old when he died, just short of a day in the Lords time clearly qualifying, as For the day thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. He died within one day of the Lords time. Having voluntarily come into the world he participated in the consequences of Adams partaking of the fruit. Subsequently the Day of this Life has been confusing for many who have read the ancient texts. The day of this life begins at birth but does not end at death. I really extends until the end of the Final Judgment no so coincidentally at the end of the thousand years of Millennial Era. Therefore, the judgment for Original Sin was death. (Romans 6: 23) Certainly under the broadest interpretations of the consequences for the fall of Adam we cannot conclude that the wages of sin are caused by sex. Procreation was a commandment before Eve arrived on the scene. Adam and Eve could not procreate in the Garden of Eden. They didnt even understand their own nakedness until after they partook of the fruit. (Gen 3: 7-11) Therefore, the sin could not have been sex. They didnt understand their nakedness until after they partook. Notice what the Devil said to Eve in order to entice her to eat of the fruit, (Gen 3: 3-7) Ye ahall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened and ye shall be as the gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof and did eat and gave also unto her husband with her: and he did eat. The serpent was only partially right. Eve didnt drop over and fall to the ground and return to the dust when she at the fruit. She did see the world differently and was able to distinguish good from evil. However, that act she committed was not a sexual act at all. The saga of Adam and Eve is much broader than is contained within the Bible. There are several places where additional information is available. The first is contained within the Forgotten Books of Eden. http://www.ishopper.com/manuscripts/~RN=3329 I really enjoyed this one and you will too. Notice what Adam did to punish Eve for her partaking of the fruit. He made her go and stand in the river. Perhaps that was the very first baptism ever performed. Another of
[CTRL] Yemen Observer: USS Cole repairs finished [???????]
-Caveat Lector- [Funny, I just heard on CNN not two hours ago that the ship MAY SINK, i.e., that they have not [can NOT, pumps ain't woikin] keep it from taking on water?!? --MS] http://www.yobserver.com/headline.html Repairing USS Cole Finished A very important Yemeni source in Aden informed the Observer that the technical team has finished repairing the giant hole resulted by the explosion of the American warship USS Cole. "It is really a dramatic achievement." He said. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ness Energy: Oil Under Dead Sea!
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nessenergy.com/ Post and discussion commencing at http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39ea1f9c5b1c.htm Related item to this from Yahoo re: press release about scheduled commencement of drilling. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/001003/tx_ness_en.html Tuesday October 3, 11:19 am Eastern Time Press Release SOURCE: Ness Energy Ness Signs With Drilling Contractor and Expects to Commence Drilling Before Christmas WILLOW PARK, Texas, Oct. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- Ness Energy International, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: NESS - news): Hayseed Stephens, President of Ness Energy International, Inc., returned from his 70th trip to Israel September 30, 2000, after days of meetings with parties connected to Ness' Israel oil project. During his trip, Mr. Stephens met with the Israel Petroleum Commissioner, principals of the Israel Oil Company, a joint venture partner in the Israel project, and executives of Lapidoth Israel Oil Prospectors Corporation, Ltd., a drilling contractor. As a result, a contract was signed with Lapidoth to commence the re-entry and deepening of the Har Sedom #1 well by December 31, 2000. Lapidoth will furnish all equipment and labor, working on a ``day-work basis''. They will perform drilling services as directed by the Operator, Ness Energy. The re- entry and deepening of Har Sedom #1 will be in addition to Elohim Perazim #1 on this lease. It will satisfy drilling commitments while Elohim Perazim #1 funding continues to be completed. Har Sedom #1 was spud-in on this location in 1985 by Ness of Texas and three major oil companies in Israel; Paz, Sismica and I.O.C. In this prospect, at a depth of 5,000 ft., a bit broke off at the time the worldwide energy market hit a low of $8.50 barrel. PAZ, Sismica and I.O.C. chose not to continue with the project. Current prices and new technological developments make economic opportunity more advantageous. In addition, a contract was signed with I.O.C., which extended the time to commence drilling, from September 10, 2000 to December 31, 2000, which conforms to the extended drilling commencement date provided for in the Lapidoth Drilling Contract. If production is achieved in Har Sedom #1, the lease will be held as long as the field is producing. The Petroleum Commissioner approved the request and issued a written extension of the Hesed License to Ness. This press release includes forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. Forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially and market products and/or services and other risks detailed from time to time in the Company's report filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission For additional information call Rick Palmer, 817-341-1477. SOURCE: Ness Energy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] LATimes/SF Examiner: What is it with white men and their buddy, Bush?
-Caveat Lector- [Is that "pampered son of the super-rich" referring to Bush or Gore? --MS] http://examiner.com/001015/1015op-scheer.html What is it with white men and their buddy, Bush? By Robert Scheer Contributing editor and columnist at the Los Angeles Times, Editor of USC's Online Journalism Review: www.ojr.org. SANTA MONICA - Why are white men so screwed up? If you can believe the polls, they identify by a huge margin with George W. Bush as one of them. What gives with these delusions of grandeur in which Joe Six-Pack puts himself in the same boat with a pampered son of the super-rich? Did average white males grow up in the lap of luxury and get to squander funds invested by family friends in failing oil ventures? Can they fashion a well-greased political career based solely on their fathers' names? Obviously not, but what has traditionally bound white males to men like Bush is that they, too, like to think of themselves as being winners simply as a perk of birth. That way, if they also got poor grades in college, they could still think of themselves as smart enough to be president, when even the brightest women couldn't. Not that all white males are actually winners, but they don't have to feel like losers, since they can still feel superior to women and minorities. But now, with equality growing between the sexes and even the races, white males feel their privilege threatened by the prospect of an even playing field. They blame this on the Democrats for pushing affirmative action, which started to break up the old-boy network. So they tend to vote for Republicans in large numbers, thinking that progress can be held back and traditional values restored, meaning that women will be put back in their place. Such a reversal of white female fortunes would be a disaster for white males, if they would only stop to think about it but being white males, they don't. The brute truth of the statistics on the boom in American family prosperity is that it is based on females entering the work force and obtaining better pay. Particularly white females, who have been the main beneficiaries of efforts to make the job market a bit less biased. White men are inclined to think that a rise in women's pay means a decline in males' standard of living. That's because white males have not grasped the fact that women tend to intermarry with men meaning that their incomes are shared with husbands and male offspring and even fathers, whom they occasionally help support. But beyond the economics of equal pay for equal work, there are those other "women's issues," which the Democrats support and to which men are indifferent, most significantly the issue of "choice." If males would just ponder for a second how women get pregnant, they might not be so quick to define abortion as a "women's issue." Let's say that George W. gets to make good on his expressed desire to pick U.S. Supreme Court justices in the mold of Anthony Scalia and Clarence Thomas, who then overturn Roe vs. Wade. Where does that leave men who have gotten women pregnant and decide they are not ready for fatherhood? Well, in the bad old days, it left them accompanying fearful women on a trip to Tijuana or some back-alley abortion mill in this country, in the process not only betraying the health needs of a woman they claimed to love but incurring legal risks as well. It's perplexing how a host of other issues that would seem to affect men equally with women got to be gender-defined in polls. Why are women more pro-environment, pro-children and pro-health care, or more concerned about saving Social Security? Is it that Darwinian nesting thing? Women want the civilizing effect of government to protect the vulnerable. Men see themselves as cowboys at war on the frontier in need of personal arms and a strong cavalry at the fort to back them up. Do men not know that if Social Security gets wrecked with this privatization gamble Bush is hustling, they will be hurt? Even younger men who might have to cut into their discretionary income to take care of their aging parents could be at risk. As for the environment, one has to assume men's lungs are not gender-protected from the poisonous fumes that now make Houston the pollution capital of the nation. Surely males can appreciate the wonders of hunting and fishing in the pristine environment of Alaska that is threatened by the Bush-Cheney team's promise to rape its energy resources and turn it into another Texas. If being pro-choice, pro-environment and in favor of the security of older people makes Al Gore a wimp, shouldn't we men re-examine our macho standards? Remember that limp cigarette in the mouth of the cowboy in those anti-tobacco ads that link smoking with impotency? Macho men are a dying breed. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] IMPORTANT: WARNING FROM ISLAMIC TERRORISTS (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:44:20 +1000 From: Rachav [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[Moderated] Noahides" [EMAIL PROTECTED], Leadership [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IMPORTANT: WARNING FROM ISLAMIC TERRORISTS Original Message Subject: Faces of Islam Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 12:17:41 -0400 From: Murray Kahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: (Recipient list suppressed) 10/15/2000, 9:04 am 195.22.198.8 Assalaamu Alaykum Brothers and siters in Al-Islam. THE TIME IS NOW !!! Let us put aside our evil and corrupted desires and return to the Book of Allah (s.w.a) and the Sunnah of His Beloved Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w). Brothers let us march forward to JIHAD, sisters raise your sons for JIHAD, prepare your daughters for none other than a MUJAHID, and let us raise the banner of Al-Islam HIGH. LA HAWLA WALL QUWATA ILL BILLAH. Remeber - your account is with Allah, my account is with Allah (s.w.a), therefore, let us ALL take account of ourselves before the day comes when we will ALL BE TAKEN ACCOUNT OF. YOUR BROTHER IN AL-ISLAM Allahu Akhbar! Allahu Akhbar! Allahu Akhbar! The mujahidin will deal with Isreal first, then the apostate rulers, and then U.S. U.S. vacationers in the Islamic peninsula are warned they should leave these areas and keep away, because they are not the target, but death comes quickly comes to those who are in targeted areas. And the Mujahidin are not fighting tourists, but tourists are not welcomed in these areas. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NYT: Cole Struggles to Stay Afloat After a Bulkhead Collapses
-Caveat Lector- [I just heard that a preliminary conclusion from those shards, other Navy officials, said, was that the attack was not carried out from a Zodiac-type rubber inflatable as originally believed, but from a boat with a white fiberglass hull. Also, I thought that even LARGE vessels could be raised and/or kept afloat by inflating ballons within the hull?? --MS] Cole Struggles to Stay Afloat After a Bulkhead Collapses By JOHN F. BURNS DEN, Yemen, Oct. 15 With 12 dead crewmates still lying trapped in buckled, flooded compartments below decks, sailors of the destroyer Cole struggled again today to keep their stricken ship afloat, winning praise for their heroism from commanders who were forced to cancel a memorial service for the dead. The collapse of an underwater bulkhead early this morning sent tons of water flooding back into parts of the Cole that had been pumped out in the frantic struggle that began when a small boat laden with explosives rammed the guided missile destroyer on Thursday morning. Seventeen sailors died in what American investigators describe as a terrorist attack. By nightfall today, more than 16 hours after the bulkhead caved in, the task force commander assigned to head efforts to save the Cole and bring the ship home safely described the collapse as a "catastrophe," but said that worse had been averted. "We've got it patched up," said Rear Adm. Mark Fitzgerald, deputy commander of the Navy's Central Command, based in Tampa, Fla. "They've stopped the flooding and saved the ship." Admiral Fitzgerald, like others who have visited the Cole and seen the devastation caused by the explosion, spoke with emotion about the crew, many of them recent enlistees and most in their late teens or early 20's. He said the sailors had shaken off the shock of the attack and worked relentlessly, with little sleep, to keep the ship from sinking. "It was a heroic effort," he said. The crisis occurred when generator-driven pumps on the Cole failed, causing water pressure to build up and collapse the bulkhead. American officials, describing the ship as "a crime scene," said evidence gathered so far had thrown into question one element in initial accounts of the explosion, the kind of boat used in the attack. A senior Navy officer said "thousands of pieces" of "confetti sized" debris from the boat, including possibly human remains from the two men who were believed to have carried out the attack, were spread over the decks of the Cole. A preliminary conclusion from those shards, other Navy officials said, was that the attack was not carried out from a Zodiac-type rubber inflatable as originally believed, but from a boat with a white fiberglass hull. The Navy was forced to cancel the memorial service for the dead that was to have been held at midmorning on the Cole's upper deck. Then, worried about men and women who had worked four days in debilitating heat to keep the ship afloat, it began rotating crew members onto three other Navy ships that have formed a protective cordon around the Cole since the blast. Sailors from the other ships were transferred to the Cole to take over. Eventually, but probably not for a week or more, the Navy plans to make the Cole sufficiently seaworthy to tow it from its sheltered position in the Bay of Aden to a rendezvous with a Norwegian-owned ship that is a combination of a seagoing flatbed and drydock. A Navy announcement in Washington said plans were made for the Norwegian ship, the 700-foot Blue Marlin, now in dock in the Persian Gulf state of Dubai, to build blocks on its deck to support the Cole. It will make the five-day journey to Aden, then slide under the Cole in the open sea and begin a 25-day piggyback journey back to the United States. For now, the 9,100-ton Cole, a four- year-old, billion-dollar vessel packed with some of the most advanced military technology afloat, still lies listing heavily, several feet lower in the water than normal. But with onshore fire mains linked up after the bulkhead collapse, it is successfully pumping water out faster than it can flow back in. As water levels receded, the search for the missing crewmen, described by the Navy as its next highest priority, began again. This afternoon, teams of Navy divers with underwater strobe lights and metal-cutting equipment began probing the twisted, blackened compartments behind the gaping hole on the destroyer's port side, trying to cut through twisted steel, collapsed deckheads and masses of tangled cables to reach the areas where the dead sailors were believed to lie. Having concluded from searches of the harbor floor that none of the dead sailors were thrown out of the ship, the Navy was hoping to begin recovering the bodies during daylight on Tuesday before starting them on the long journey home. Navy officials said probes conducted soon after the blast had fixed the location of two dead crew members, whose bodies had been identified but not removed
[CTRL] AP: USS Cole blast 'more than just TNT,' says official
-Caveat Lector- Monday, October 16, 2000 USS Cole blast 'more than just TNT,' says official The Associated Press and The Stars and Stripes newspaper ADEN, Yemen A blast more powerful "than just TNT" buckled the USS Cole's deck and turned the attack boat into "confetti size" pieces that rained down on the crippled destroyer, officials said Sunday in accounts that shed light on the enormous devastation of the bombing. The details, provided by senior U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity, also raised questions about the level of security in a port selected last year as a key refueling point for U.S. warships traveling between the Mediterranean and the Persian Gulf. There has been no credible claim of responsibility from Thursday's apparent suicide attack, which killed 17 sailors, wounded 39 others and punched a 40-by-40-foot chasm in the hull. Yemeni security forces have detained more than a dozen people for further questioning, but no arrests have been announced. "Now exactly who was behind it, what their motivation was and how they were able to arrange it, that we can't speculate on," said Barbara Bodine, the U.S. ambassador to Yemen. "The ship has suffered a tremendous blow," said Rear Adm. Mark Fitzgerald, the military commander of the U.S. task force sent to the ship. On the listing deck of the Cole, crew members gathered for religious services and offered prayers for their dead shipmates some still wedged behind contorted metal below. A planned formal memorial was delayed because the crew worked through the night to control flooding after another bulkhead collapsed, officials said. Also on Sunday, the plane carrying 33 injured crew members landed at the Norfolk Naval Station in Norfolk, Va. Wearing donated track suits against the fall chill at Ramstein Air Base in Germany, the sailors gave thumbs-up signs as they boarded the gray C-141 plane taking them to Norfolk. Most were well enough to clamber up the rear ramp, but several were taken aboard on stretchers, including one brought by ambulance to the waiting plane. Six shipmates who were more seriously hurt stayed behind. The bodies of five of the sailors killed arrived back on United States soil on Saturday. Defense Secretary William Cohen said there was no doubt that the explosion was an intentional bombing. "We don't know who did it but ... we're satisfied this was clearly an act of terrorism," he said on CBS. "We will be relentless in tracking down the individuals or groups who are responsible for this and we will see to it that they are held accountable." President Clinton's national security adviser defended the Navy's decision to dock ships in Yemen. Sandy Berger said limited fueling options in the Persian Gulf require such stops despite the high risk of terrorism. "This entire area is a high threat area. The military has taken substantial steps in this area," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press." Berger said 25 ships have refueled in the Arabian Peninsula port of Aden in the past 18 months "without incident." "Obviously we have to find out what if anything happened in this particular case," Berger said. U.S. officials believe the ship was the target of a suicide attack from a small vessel packed with powerful explosives. If terrorism is proved, it would be the deadliest such attack on the U.S. military since the bombing of an Air Force barracks in Saudi Arabia in 1996 that killed 19. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said on ABC's "This Week" that she thinks the inquiry is "moving" and the United States is "getting a lot of people in there." Meanwhile, experts began scouring the ravaged ship in search of clues and the bodies of sailors still missing. Divers began searching water-filled compartments. Crews with powerful metal cutters will try to slice through the wreckage to reach bodies: two visible and 10 still missing and perhaps trapped behind floors and walls bent wildly by the blast. Terrorism and explosive experts combed through scenes described by a U.S. official as "utter devastation." On the deck, "confetti size" pieces from the wooden attack boat were collected, the official said. Among the tasks for the investigators: looking for residue that could indicate the type of explosives. One of the officials said the power of the blast suggested "more than just TNT" which could suggest a well-organized and supplied group. The officials said the blast occurred shortly after the ship was secured to two buoys to begin refueling in the harbor, which was full of pleasure boats, fishing vessels and merchant ships. About two to three support vessels were around the Cole, including pilot craft and a garbage barge. There was no cry of alarm from the Cole's crew. Two people on the attack boat reportedly stood at attention briefly before the explosion. The blast at the waterline was close to the dining area for senior enlisted officers. Most hands were busy finishing the docking. A
[CTRL] Fw: Fw: The Future and Its Enemies: The Growing Conflict Over Creativity, Enterprise, and Progress.(Reviews) -- Virginia Postrel
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: Fw: The Future and Its Enemies: The Growing Conflict Over Creativity, Enterprise, and Progress.(Reviews) -- Virginia Postrel Date: Friday, September 29, 2000 5:43 AM http://www.dynamist.com --- Virginia Postrel Website = Source: Forbes, Sept 18, 2000 p108. Title: Looking Forward.(Brief Article) Author: Virginia Postrel Subjects: Medal of Freedom - Achievements and awards People: Galbraith, John Kenneth - Achievements and awards Locations: United States Full Text COPYRIGHT 2000 Forbes, Inc. The U.S. government's highest civilian award is the Presidential Medal of Freedom. It goes to people the President believes have made "especially meritorious contributions." Why, then, did President Clinton recently give this prestigious award to John Kenneth Galbraith? The official citation says it's because Galbraith "has made complex economic theories and processes comprehensible to a wide audience and highlighted the social and ethical impacts of economic policies." In fact, Galbraith has spent his career peddling nonsense. His work, long scoffed at by serious economists of all political stripes, has been utterly discredited by the experience of the past several decades. His influential 1967 book, The New Industrial State, declared that Western corporate managers and Soviet planners were doing basically the same thing: maintaining the economic certainty that large-scale investment requires. Market competition is dead, he said, killed by technology and large-scale development. "The enemy of the market is not ideology but the engineer," he wrote. "In the Soviet Union and the Soviet-type economies, prices are extensively managed by the state. Production is not in response to market demand but given by the overall plan. In the Western economies, markets are dominated by great firms. These establish prices and seek to insure a demand for what they have to sell The modern large corporation and the modern apparatus of socialist planning are variant accommodations to the same need." It's as though Ronald Reagan had given a Medal of Freedom to his wife's astrologer. But Nancy Reagan presumably trusted her infamous adviser. Even the Clinton Administration does not believe Galbraith's economics. From its earliest days, for instance, the Administration has been acutely aware of the power of international capital markets. Neither business investment nor government borrowing can escape the pressures of competition. Galbraith, by contrast, saw an easy way out for companies--just rely on retained earnings, which he considered completely under management's control. A firm that "has a secure source of capital from its own earnings" can avoid all sorts of problems, he wrote. "It no longer faces the risks of the market. It has full control over its own rate of expansion, over the nature of that expansion and over decisions between products, plants and processes." Back in the real world the Clinton Administration takes pride in an entrepreneurial boom. Along with a host of well-funded startups, today's economy is marked by mature enterprises--Microsoft, Intel, Oracle and so forth--that are still closely connected to their owners and founders. And the quality of individual leaders makes an enormous difference in how companies of all vintages perform. Impossible, declared Galbraith. A bureaucratic "Technostructure" had taken over business. The Technostructure insulated firms from competition and manipulated consumers with ease. And it had no place for entrepreneurs. They might run the corner dry cleaner, but entrepreneurs could not run any business that required capital and planning. "The entrepreneur no longer exists as an individual person in the mature industrial enterprise," he wrote. Galbraith spoke in a tone of resigned superiority, as though reciting obvious facts that other, less-sophisticated sorts were too romantic to face. "There is no more pleasant fiction than that technical change is the product of the matchless ingenuity of the small man," he wrote in his 1952
Re: [CTRL] Kansas State Senate Prayer
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/15/00 1:58:31 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With the LORD'S help, may this prayer sweep over our nation and wholeheartedly become our desire so that we again can be called one nation under GOD. Excuuse me while I throw up. Is this the grand One World Religion we now get to go along with our One World Government? Or doesn't Kansas have any Muslims, Jews or Athesists, etc.? You think shoving YOUR beliefs down OUR throats is a good thing to do? Snert Alert! Samantha A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Origins of anti-Semitism
-Caveat Lector- Aleisha Saba wrote: I understand you are a very ugly person Joshua.. Actually, I'm very pretty. Kind of a cross between Rock Hudson and Bette Midler. one who tries to censor and suppress the truth... I don't censor anyone, but I do challenge idiots like you who talk out of their ass and don't even realize how dumb they are. you once stated you were a mechanic - I doubt you are a very goodo mechanic. I never stated I was a mechanic because I'm not. What else do you know Einstein? J2 Compare story on USS Liberty attack.a lot of web about this ship but the truth has yet to come out about the timely near demise of the USS Cole - and how many of our sailors murdered in this attack. Doubt a few camel drivers could get that close to this USS Cole - but Israelie spies are being caught dressed in palestinian garb - snipers murdering children and now the USS Cole - one could have concluded in advance such an attack would soon be forthcoming for this seems to be an old trick used by Israelies - like Remember the USS Liberty and 34 dead sailors, 171 wounded laying on deck while Israelie planes for which we paid, napalmed them for 45 minutes more.nice people? As a taxpayer to Israel I protest my money being spent on Uzzies for their little hoodlums to carry about the streets which are used to then murder children .the use of silencers on guns shows how sneaky these bastards really are. Slaughter of the innocents..Ashkenazi Zionists are ready to slaughter all the domesmtic jews and arabs - who are true brothers. Saba A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Remember the Maine! And the Other Ships Sunk To Start a War
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ [Title 17 U.S.C. section 107] Remember the Maine! And the Other Ships Sunk To Start a War by Bill Sardi February 15, 1898: "Remember the Maine." Mysterious explosion rocks the battleship MAINE in Havana Harbor, Cuba. 266 men were killed. Initally it was believed a torpedo or mine caused the explosion. On April 25, 1898 the US declared war on Spain. A 1976 investigation found that the Maine was sunk due to a self-inflicted blast, probably as a result of coal bunker fire on board. May 7, 1915: The British steamship Lusitania was sunk by a German torpedo on the high seas of the Atlantic Ocean. 100 Americans lost their lives. The result was the the US was brought into WWI. It was not revealed at the time that the Lusitania, a passenger boat, was carrying arms. December 7, 1941: How was President Roosevelt going to convince the American public to enter into war with the Japanese when they were wrapping up their war in Europe? Japanese bombers, launched from aircraft carriers, bombed Pearl Harbor and sunk the US Pacific Fleet. Over 2000 died. The US knew of the threat of war and had intercepted the "East-Wind Rain" secret code of the Japanese Pacific fleet. Japan had closed all its embassies in the Pacific rim the week prior to Pearl Harbor, which is an overt sign of war. The US aircraft carriers had been removed from Pearl Harbor days before the bombing. Admiral Kimmell in Hawaii was intentionally kept in the dark that the Japanese fleet was nearby. President Roosevelt appeared before Congress, declared Pearl Harbor a "day in infamy," and the rest is history. August 5, 1964: President Johnson orders the US to take retaliatory action against Vietnam after "renewed attacks against American destroyers in the Gulf on Tonkin" (Vietnam). There were no new attacks against American ships. The news media reported a lie, leading over 50,000 Americans to their death and millions of casualties. October 12, 2000: USS COLE, an American destroyer, docking in Yemen to re-fuel, was approached by a small docking vessel that carried a bomb. 18 sailors are believed dead and 35 others were wounded. The bombing occurs on the eve of the Presidential debates, and as rumors that Iraq is moving troops in the Middle East, as well as riots in Jerusalem. Benjamin Netanyahu, former prime minister of Israel, says during television interview that the same people who conducted terrorism in Jerusalem bombed the USS Cole. Don't be duped into going to war solely over reports of bombings of US Navy boats in far off lands where we the facts of the event are completely controlled by one source, the government. Remember the Maine! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Rebirth of Israel, Jews and Anti-semitism
-Caveat Lector- From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So where did the word Nazi originate - that Nazi bunch sure as heck were not Nordic Gods. The word 'nazi' was a shortened form of "National Socialist" (in German, of course). June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WND: MYTHS OF THE MIDDLE EAST Shocked? You Should Be!
-Caveat Lector- From: "Nurev Ind Research" [EMAIL PROTECTED] But as an Arabic people, they can claim descent from Abraham... Anybody can claim descent from Abraham. You obviously don't know the Old Testament... Abraham had two children. The first, from Hagar his wife's servant, became the forefather of the Arab people. The second, from his wife Sarah, became the forefather of the Jewish people. Only the Jews allowed the other religions to worship there when in control. Strange then that there were Christian churches and Jewish synagogues in Palestine pre-1948...many going back hundreds of years... Not really. The Dome of the Rock is built on a church, which was built in the Temple area. Pre 1948 Palestine was controlled by the Britts, and before that the Ottoman Turks who were fairly liberal about religion in their empire. And so the claim that 'only the Jews allowed the other religions to worship there when in control' IS false, isn't it? Your own words make that point, in that both the British and the Ottomans also allowed 'other religions' to worship in Jerusalem. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Article by Jewish Professor regarding Jewish hatred for Christianity
-Caveat Lector- Jews do not have an IQ gene like Hitler seemed to believe, they are just as dense as anyone else. For the real reason behind Hitler http://www.trufax.org/avoid/nazi.html Sounds like the rabbi may know about Jews but has a rotton knowledge of history. Laura 16Oct2000 Justine Blake wrote: -Caveat Lector- Dear Carl, Here is the truth about the Talmud and Jewish fundamentalism. http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0300/0003105.html Washington Report on Middle East Affairs MARCH 2000, pages 105-106 Book Review Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel By Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky. London: Pluto Press,1999, 176 pp.List: $18.95; AET: $16.00 Reviewed by Allan C. Brownfeld In recent years there has been a dramatic growth of Jewish fundamentalism in Israel which has manifested itself in vigorous opposition to the peace process and has played a key role, as well, in the assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and the murder of 29 Muslims at prayer by the American-born fundamentalist, Baruch Goldstein. Few outside of Israel have been properly informed about the extent of the fundamentalist movement or the theology upon which it is based. American Jews, in particular, seem unaware of the narrow ethnocentrism which is promoted by the movement's leading rabbis, or of the traditional Jewish sources they are able to call upon in drawing clear distinctions between the moral obligations owed to Jews and non-Jews. In an important new book, Jewish Fundamentalism In Israel, Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinksy provide a thorough assessment of this phenomenon in modern Israel. The authors trace the history and development of Jewish fundamentalism, examining the various strains, and identify the messianic tendency which they believe to be the most dangerous. Israel Shahak, an Israeli and a Holocaust survivor, is a retired professor at the Hebrew University and a leading human rights activist. Norton Mezvinsky is a professor of history at Central Connecticut State University who has written and lectured extensively on the modern Middle East. The authors point out that "the adherents of Jewish fundamentalism in Israel oppose equality for all citizens, especially non-Jews." The respected Israeli sociologist Baruch Kimmerling, citing evidence from a study conducted by other scholars, declared: "The value of the [Jewish] religion, at least in its Orthodox and nationalistic form that prevails in Israel, cannot be squared with democratic values. No other variable neither nationality, nor attitudes about security, nor social or economic values, nor ethnic descent and education so influences the attitudes of [Israeli] Jews against democratic values as does religiousity." What particularly concerns the authors is the total contempt which Jewish fundamentalists show toward non-Jews. Rabbi Kook the Elder, the revered father of the messianic tendency of Jewish fundamentalism, said, "The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews all of them in all different levels is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle." Rabbi Kook"s entire teaching, which is followed devoutly by, among others, those who have led the settler movement on the occupied West Bank, is based upon the Lurianic Cabbala, the school of Jewish mysticism that dominated Judaism from the late16th to the early 19th century. "One of the basic tenets of the Lurianic Cabbala," the authors write, "is the absolute superiority of the Jewish soul and body over the non-Jewish soul and body. According to the Lurianic Cabbala, the world was created solely for the sake of Jews; the existence of non-Jews was subsidiary. If an influential Christian bishop or Islamic scholar argued that the difference between the superior souls of non-Jews and the inferior souls of Jews was greater than the difference between the human soul and souls of cattle, he would incur the wrath of all and be viewed as an anti-Semite by most Jewish scholars regardless of whatever less meaningful, positive statements he included." The scholarly authors of books about Jewish mysticism and the Lurianic Cabbala, such as Gershon Scholem, have, the authors charge, "willfully omitted reference to such ideas. These authors are supreme hypocrites. They are analogous to many authors of books on Stalin and Stalinism. Until recently, people who read only the books written by Stalinists could not know about Stalin's crimes and would have false notions of the Stalinist regimes and their real ideologies." According to the ideologies which underlie Gush Emunim, the militant West Bank settlers group, and Hasidism, non-Jews have "satanic souls" Shahak and Mezvinsky note that "the role of Satan, whose earthly embodiment according to the Cabbala is every non-Jew, has been minimized or not mentioned by authors who have not written about the Cabbala in Hebrew. Such authors,
Re: [CTRL] IMPORTANT: WARNING FROM ISLAMIC TERRORISTS (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- When I read this item I thought about the Navy spies - Jonathan Pollard and the Walker family spies Now the Walker spies and the KGB had formed a KKK - and later after Walker spies captured, the KGB was caught sending out phoney messages using KKK letterhead and logos, etc. This letter strikes me as such a letter - phoney, and typical KGB games - so cui bono if we go to war in the Holy Land? Regardless, if you read this warning from Islamic Terrorists, check the postage - bet comes out of Moscow... The work of rank amatuers.. At least that is what I think - but in my opinion Ehud Barak is a communist working with KGB - maybe a plant, this Ashke-nazi European Jew who slaughters the innocents. Had Rabin lived - but with a Barak waiting in the wings, a possible plant - well Occidental Oil is up - the games people play. Saba A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Peace Based on Surrender - Two Palestinian Articles
Barak is using Putin KGB tactics in not permitting Paletinians medical treatment. Chechnya - Putin warned he would make public examples and as it was, the "iniquities of the fathers were visited upon the children"a little 14 year old boy had his legs amputated because Russians refused medical treatment, and gangrene set in - they did then accommodate the parents by amputating the child's legs.then the picture of the mother and child was placed in the Russian papers and in Chechnya as a example - the one Putin declared would be set. It is my belief that Barak is KGB serving two masters - a plant...and true biblical OT style, the iniquities of the fathers is being visited upon the children..Elridge Cleaver, a phoney baloney psuedo intellectual who is alleged to have written Soul on Ice - loved to quote this line. Ashke-nazi Jew - Barak plays the role well, this phoney jew in sheeps clothing. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\ TWO PALESTINIAN ARTICLES http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! * * * * * * * IF YOU DON'T GET MER, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] PALESTINE'S MEDICAL SYSTEM ON VERGE OF COLLAPSE By Dr. Mustafa Barghouthi The Union of Palestinian Medical Relief Committees October 15, 2000: The West Bank and Gaza Strip is under complete siege. Every village and town has been cut off, making travel between regions impossible. The Gaza airport has been closed, and Palestinians are not allowed to leave the country via land borders or Tel Aviv airport. Palestinians have become virtual prisoners in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The closure has gravely impacted health service delivery to Palestinians. Patients with serious injuries requiring referral to Jordan, Saudi Arabia, or Egypt for specialized care are unable to be transported. UPMRC's and other health organizations' medical teams are facing incredible difficulties reaching sick patients. The Primary Health Care system in Palestine has become paralyzed since doctors cannot access clinics and patients in rural areas cannot access city hospitals. The closure constitutes a clear-cut, serious violation to Palestinian citizens' health and human rights. For example, on Friday, 27-year-old Nimr Mahmoud Sha'ban of Jiflik was bitten by a snake and needed immediate transport to a hospital. The Israeli army would not let him pass through the checkpoint for hours and when he finally reached a hospital, he needed to be admitted to the intensive care unit. Najat Abdel-Razek, age 20, sustained head and back injuries when her house collapsed during a storm. The ambulance called to take her to the hospital was not allowed through the checkpoint, and a doctor unsuccessfully tried to drive her in a private car. The doctor was finally permitted to carry her through the checkpoint on a stretcher only after arguing with IDF soldiers for an hour. She was then transferred to an ambulance waiting on the other side, and driven to a hospital for further treatment. Also, in Salfit, two sick Palestinians died because medical teams could not get through the checkpoints in time to reach them. The Israeli forces' closure will again create an Intifada-type situation where pregnant women deliver their children at checkpoints, and sick people die while waiting for Israeli permission to pass. --- TURNING POINT IN THE PALESTINIAN STRUGGLE DR. NAJED NASSAR Union of Health Work Commitees NASSER IBRAHIM Alternative Information Center "The extreme violence used by Israel against the Palestinian uprising is nothing but another attempt to coerce the world into buying into its understanding of 'peace,' namely, a peace based on surrender." Beit Sahour, 16 October 2000: A few days ago, the Palestinian people experienced a turning point in their lives. Their struggle against the Israeli occupation has reached a new peak. The people witnessed a savage bombardment using tanks, rockets, and helicopters. Forty rockets were fired over Ramallah and another 90 over Gaza and other cities. Fortunately, no one was killed but numerous people were injured. Many buildings were destroyed. The main aim of the Israeli government is to break the spirit of the Palestinian people. Barak announced that this is only a token of what the Palestinians can expect. The other aim is to bring the Palestinians to the negotiating table before the Arab summit. In view of what is happening in the Arab World: the mass
Re: [CTRL] Kansas State Senate Prayer
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Samantha L. wrote: In a message dated 10/15/00 1:58:31 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With the LORD'S help, may this prayer sweep over our nation and wholeheartedly become our desire so that we again can be called one nation under GOD. Excuuse me while I throw up. Is this the grand One World Religion we now get to go along with our One World Government? Or doesn't Kansas have any Muslims, Jews or Athesists, etc.? You think shoving YOUR beliefs down OUR throats is a good thing to do? Snert Alert! Say WHAT? Who the hell said I believe this shit? I wrote ONLY that this was "INTERESTING." The first two sentences of that post were my words...everything after that was said by the Senator, NOT ME. Sorry if I did not make that crystal clear...I'll be more careful in the future. I think I have mentioned MANY TIMES here that I post a lot of things I neither agree with, or like. Personally, now that I have been accused, and find myself having to offer some explanation, I have A LOT of problems with this prayer's content, and context, i.e., crap like this is not too righteous and/or appropriate ANYWHERE, let alone in the halls of any governmental body (except maybe inside the halls of the Vatican's hierarchical crap). If you would like details of my views in regards to this prayer, read MY veiws as follows (otherwise disregard the rest of this post): Unveiled condemnation of others does not qualify as prayer. These "We have... insert all sorts of evil things that SOME individuals may have or may have not done" so-called prayers are morally reprehensible when they suggest to the gathered listeners that they should confess what they have not done. This kind of thing is emblematic, in fact, of those who are dismally unaware of the personal nature of prayer. If "we" is ever used in communal prayer, it is for those things that are universal. The sins enumerated in the alleged prayer are not universal. I've seen this particular post elsewhere and found it just as ridiculous now as I did earlier. Who the hell is Joe Wright to lay this on all his listeners? In the Catholic Church (and most others I am aware of) there is a lot of communal prayer. The Church has a lot of experience with it and does it right. The author of this so-called prayer is confessing the very sins that would prevent most religious denominations from ordaining him to the ministry. How absurd! Warm regards, Mike Oh...and, try asking me what I believe IF IN DOUBT, rather than to attribute stuff to me that I am no where near in mind or spirit, K? And, thanks in advance for doing so from now on. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Important Vincent Foster FOIA News (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 00:00:11 -0700 From: Allan Favish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Important Vincent Foster FOIA News On October 13, 2000, a hearing was held before Judge William Keller of the United States District Court, Central District of California in Los Angeles. As you read the following, keep in mind that two and a half hours before the hearing I telephoned the Los Angeles office of the Associated Press to tell them about the hearing. Soon after I began my description of the event I stated that the subject matter was photographs of Vincent Foster's deceased body. As soon as I said Foster's name, the AP person interrupted me and said, "Thank you very much," and then she immediately hung up the phone. What occurred at the hearing will be a surprise to most people. Those with any interest in this case will want to read two documents in their entirety: 1) the transcript of the hearing, and 2) the draft motion I gave to the OIC's attorney. You need to read both to fully understand what is happening. To read them, go to my web site (address below) and go to the Foster section. Scroll down to the heading: "FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT LAWSUIT TO OBTAIN FOSTER INVESTIGATION PHOTOGRAPHS Case Documents for Favish v. OIC" You will find two additions to the table of documents dated October 13, 2000. There is much more to these documents than what I've put in these brief descriptions. The first one says: "The transcript of the hearing at which the OIC's attorney said that the OIC did not want to show the district court judge the original photos, but instead wanted to show him copies. The judge rejected that position and ordered the originals tobe produced to him.The OIC's attorney also said that the OIC did not want to release the original of the"gun-in-hand" photo. This wasdespite the fact that the OIC's only basis for arguing that the photo be withheld was that it was"graphic, explicit, and extremely upsetting," and the Ninth Circuit ruled that the OIC's description was "nottrue". At this hearing I also told the judge I intended to file a motion to compel testimony as described below." The second one says: "The draft motion (Adobe Acrobat PDF 25KB) given to theOIC's attorney that will be filed to insure that any photos produced bythe OIC are the pristine originals. The draft motion asks thecourt tocompel the testimony of former OIC prosecutor Miquel Rodriguez andhis former OIC assistant Lucia Rambusch regarding allegations of illegal conduct byOIC andFBI personnel as toone or more of the photos at issue in this case.The draft was given as part of a local court requirement that the parties disclose any proposed motions and try to resolve the matter informally before making a motion. The exhibits tothe draft are omitted from this online version, but the pertinent portions are quoted in the motion." All comments are welcome. _ Regards, Allan J. Favish http://members.aol.com/allanf8702/page1.htm = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] IMPORTANT: WARNING FROM ISLAMIC TERRORISTS (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Aleisha Saba wrote: When I read this item I thought about the Navy spies - Jonathan Pollard and the Walker family spies Now the Walker spies and the KGB had formed a KKK - and later after Walker spies captured, the KGB was caught sending out phoney messages using KKK letterhead and logos, etc. This letter strikes me as such a letter - phoney, and typical KGB games - so cui bono if we go to war in the Holy Land? Regardless, if you read this warning from Islamic Terrorists, check the postage - bet comes out of Moscow... I had the same initial thoughts, however, when I checked it out, it seems to have originated legitimately... I noted the IP address (195.22.198.8) and ran it through VisualRoute (http://www.visualroute.com): inetnum: 195.22.198.0 - 195.22.198.255 netname: SYRIATEL descr: Syrian Telecommunication Establishment country: SY admin-c: AM7633-RIPE tech-c: AM7633-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: AS6762-MNT changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2124 source: RIPE = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Humor: New Regs at Los Alamos
-Caveat Lector- This was sent to me by a friend. I believe that for something to be really funny, there must be an element of truth in a story. Unfortunately, there are several elements of truth in this story. -- To: All staff, Los Alamos National Laboratory From: Bill Richardson, Secretary of Energy Dear staff members: Due to an unfortunate overreaction by the Republican Congress to our minor difficulties in the security area, we're being forced to tighten up just a bit. Effective Monday: 1. The brown paper bag in which we store the computer disk drives that contain the nation's nuclear secrets will no longer be left on the picnic table at the staff commissary during unch hour. It will be stored in "the vault." I know this is an inconvenience to many of you, but it's a sad sign of the times. 2. The three-letter security code for accessing "the vault" will no longer be "B-O-B." To confuse would-be spies, that security code will be reversed. Please don't tell anybody. 3. Visiting scientists and graduate students from Libya, North Korea and mainland China will no longer be allowed to wander the hallways without proper identification. Beginning Monday, they will be required to wear a stick-on lapel tag that clearly states, "Hello, My Name Is . . . ."The stickers will be available at the front desk. 4. The computer network used for scientific calculations will no longer be hyper linked via the Internet to such Web sites as www.moammar.com, www.swedechicks.com, or www.hackers-r-us.com. Links to all Disney sites will be maintained, however. 5. Researchers bearing a security clearance of Level 5 and higher will no longer be permitted to exchange updates on their work by posting advanced-physics formulas on the men's room walls. 6. On "Bowling Night," please check your briefcases and laptop computers at the front counter of the Bowl-a-Drome instead of leaving them in the cloakroom. Mr. Badonov, the front-counter supervisor, has promised to "keep un eye on zem" for us. 7. Staff members will no longer be allowed to take home small amounts of plutonium, iridium or uranium for use in those "little weekend projects around the house." That includes you parents who are helping the kids with their science fair projects. 8. Thermonuclear devices may no longer be checked out for "recreational use." We've not yet decided if exceptions will be made for Halloween, the Fourth of July or New Year's Eve. We'll keep you posted. 9. Employees may no longer "borrow" the AA batteries from the burglar alarm system to power their Game Boys and compact-disc players during working hours. 10. And, finally, when reporting for work each day, all employees must enter through the front door. Raoul, the janitor, will no longer admit employees who tap three times on the side door to avoid clocking in late. I know this crackdown might seem punitive and oppressive to many of you, but it is our sworn duty to protect the valuable national secrets that have been entrusted to our care. Remember: Security isn't a part-time job-it's an imperative, all 37 1/2 hours of the week! Sincerely, Bill = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Yemen admits attack was planned
Marxist Yemens alleged suspects list...KGB Putin and Barak? Cui Bono? Yemen admits attack was planned An unidentified sailor, injured in the attack on the USS Cole, is greeted by a family member on the tarmac at the Norfolk Naval Station in Norfolk, Va. on Sunday. NBC's Pat Dawson in Yemen reports that the destroyer sat helplessly for hours Sunday after a collapsed bulkhead prompted another scramble on board. Divers continue effort to retrieve bodies from USS Cole MSNBC STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS ADEN, Yemen, Oct. 16 Yemen said on Monday the explosion that crippled a U.S. Navy warship and killed 17 American sailors was a "planned criminal act," as salvage operations on the stricken vessel continued in the port of Aden. October 15, 2000 For families of dead and missing sailors aboard the USS Cole, the grieving process has already begun, NBC News' Joe John reports. YEMEN'S OFFICIAL Saba news agency said President Ali Abdullah Saleh told General Tommy Franks, the commander-in-chief of U.S. Central Command, that "preliminary results and important evidence reached by security forces in Yemen...indicate that it [the explosion] was a planned criminal act." The agency said the president expressed "his regret and strong condemnation for this shameful act which was aimed at harming the relations of friendship and cooperation between Yemen and the United States." Attack in YemenComplete coverageLatest News Latest on Mideast U.S. warned of Aden risks Survivors, relatives mourn Yemen's history of conflict Newsweek slideshow: U.S. under attack Join our discussion USS Cole state of the art Saleh had initially said the explosion was not a deliberate act.U.S. Defense Secretary William Cohen said on Sunday there was little doubt the incident was a terrorist attack. He said the United States was no closer to determining who carried out the suicide attack against the USS Cole but that Saudi exile Osama bin Laden was among those investigated. At least two Muslim groups have said they were responsible for the bombing and while Cohen said investigators take all claims seriously, it was "premature to speculate." He said bin Laden, the exiled Saudi financier wanted by the United States for allegedly masterminding the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in East Africa, could be responsible. Saleh said Yemen and the United States would continue to cooperate to uncover further information and track down those behind the attack, Saba reported. Yemen has arrested dozens of suspects for questioning in connection with the incident. SALVAGE OPERATIONS CONTINUE U.S. Navy divers were trying to retrieve bodies from the mangled wreck of the USS Cole in Aden's port on Monday as plans were made to take the warship to the United States for repairs, U.S. officials said. A list of those killed on the USS ColeElectronics Technician Richard Costelow Morrisville, Pa. Signalman Seaman Recruit Cherone Louis Gunn Rex, Ga. Seaman James Rodrick McDaniels Norfolk, Va Seaman Recruit Lakiba Nicole Palmer San Diego Specialist 2nd Class Timothy Lamont Saunders Ringgold, Va Ensign Andrew Triplett Macon, Miss. Seaman Apprentice Craig Bryan Wibberley Williamsport, Md Hull Maintenance Technician 3rd Class, Kenneth Eugene Clodfelter, Mechanicsville, Va. Mess Management Specialist Seaman Lakeina Monique Francis, Woodleaf, N.C. Information Systems Technician Seaman Timothy Lee Gauna, Rice, Texas Engineman 2nd Class Marc Ian Nieto, Fond du Lac, Wis. Electronics Warfare Technician 3rd Class Ronald Scott Owens, Vero Beach, Fla. Engineman Fireman Joshua Langdon Parlett, Churchville, Md. Fireman Apprentice Patrick Howard Roy, Keedsyville, Md. Electronics Warfare Technician 2nd Class Kevin Shawn Rux, Portland, N.D. Mess Management Specialist 3rd Class Ronchester Mananga Santiago, Kingsville, Texas Fireman Gary Graham Swenchonis Jr., Rockport, Texas US Navy Specialist teams have been brought into the poor Arab state to salvage the destroyer, which lies stricken in the southern Yemeni port with a gaping hole in its side. "The divers are in the water," said one U.S. defense official. "There are groups working to get rid of the twisted metal and carry out remains recovery." The divers are among about 100 U.S. personnel sent to Yemen to conduct the investigation and salvage operation, codenamed Determined Response, and which includes Federal Bureau of Investigation agents and a marine security platoon. U.S. Navy officials have said a small boat in a group helping to moor the Cole for refueling had been laden with explosives and blew up alongside the ship, one of the world's most sophisticated guided missile destroyers. Witnesses described two men aboard the boat standing to attention just before it exploded. The blast at the waterline was close to the dining area for senior enlisted officers. Most hands were busy finishing the
[CTRL] GORE WANTS YOUR GUNS
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: "Dave Kuehne" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Dave" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GORE WANTS YOUR GUNS Date: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:56 AM From: "Weldon Clark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- THE GORE GUN AGENDA: Al's ultimate objective would be to abolish all firearms privacy. By Dave Kopel, Independence Institute What's in the future for the anti-gun agenda, should Al Gore be elected President? Just drop by the website for Handgun Control, Inc., to find out. There's only a short interval from the keyboards at HCI to the lips of the President and Vice President. On the site, you'll find details about what comes next - but not what comes after that. Nor will you find any details on what HCI Chair Sarah Brady says is her long-term objective: a "needs- based licensing" system, in which gun ownership is allowed only when the police determine that the would-be owner "needs" the gun. How does one get from the current Clinton/Gore/HCI program to the needs-based licensing system? In other words, what would a Gore administration push for, if it achieved the current items on the anti-gun agenda? Perhaps the best guide is the 1994 report of the White House Working Group, a secret memo which was uncovered by U.S. News and World Report. Here's the long-term strategy: Complete Gun Licensing and Registration First, the attack on the non-existent "gun show loophole" is only a warm-up. The ultimate objective is to abolish all firearms privacy. Every firearms transfer - including a Christmas gift from one's cousin - would have to be routed through a federally-licensed dealer, and recorded by the federal government. A government license would also be needed to purchase ammunition. All currently owned firearms would have to be registered with the federal government, and non-registration would be a federal crime. During the Democratic primaries, Bill Bradley called for national gun registration, while Gore rejected Bradley's plan as politically unrealistic. Gore was correct; for registration to be politically possible, it needs to be built on an existing system of licensing. Salami tactics are the essence of successful gun control. The Clinton/Gore proposal for a national ID card for handgun purchasers is a sensible "moderate" and "common-sense" step toward the goal of total licensing and registration for all guns. Politically speaking, it is best if the initial stages of gun licensing can be implemented liberally (as rifle licensing was in Britain in the 1920s and 1930s) so that most people can get the license. Once licensing is in place, the bureaucracy can take care of gradually tightening the licensing process (without ever needing to ask the legislature to change the law), so that hardly anyone qualifies for a license (as rifle licensing currently is enforced in Britain). Hunting Restrictions While the White House licensing and registration system would apply to all guns, especially strict rules would be imposed on owners of handguns and for self-loading long guns (such as the Marlin Camp Carbine or the Ruger .22 rifles). Appropriating a term of art from Canadian gun law, the White House would designate all handguns and all self- loading long guns as "restricted weapons." Owners of "restricted weapons" could possess them only at home, at work, or at a target range. In other words, it would be a federal crime to go bird hunting with a Remington 1100 shotgun. Handgun hunting, which is legal in every state in the Union, would vanish. President Clinton and Vice President Gore strenuously insist that none of the laws which they have signed, and none of the regulations they have created, have interfered with hunting. Although Clinton and Gore are not correct in their claim, their "restricted weapons" agenda would remove their pro-hunting mask, and take away the primary sporting arms of millions of American hunters. Bans on Defensive Gun Use and Possession It would also be a federal crime to carry a handgun in public for protection - even for people with state licenses authorizing them to carry. The White House memo also recommends consideration of a federal law to outlaw "the carrying of firearms in...work sites." The White House proposal would override current laws of many states, which allow a person who runs a dry cleaning shop that stays open late to choose to carry a concealed gun for protection. Or an accountant who stays at work late during March and April, can choose whether to keep a handgun in her desk, and carry it with her when she walks to the parking lot late at night. The White House Working Group praises the 1976 Bartley- Fox law in Massachusetts. This law imposes a mandatory one year term
[CTRL] Fwd: NCCB/USCC - New American Bible
First official assassinJudges in bible. Interesting rendition of great modern truths... So is someone about to settle some accounts? Saba Judges Chapter 3 1 The following are the nations which the LORD allowed to remain, so that through them he might try all those Israelites who had no experience of the battles with Canaan 2 training them in battle, those generations only of the Israelites who would not have had that previous experience): 3 1 the five lords of the Philistines; and all the Canaanites, the Sidonians, and the Hivites who dwell in the mountain region of Lebanon between Baal-hermon and the entrance to Hamath. 4 These served to put Israel to the test, to determine whether they would obey the commandments the LORD had enjoined on their fathers through Moses. 5 Besides, the Israelites were living among the Canaanites, Hittites, Amorites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. 6 In fact, they took their daughters in marriage, and gave their own daughters to their sons in marriage, and served their gods. 7 2 Because the Israelites had offended the LORD by forgetting the LORD, their God, and serving the Baals and the Asherahs, 8 the anger of the LORD flared up against them, and he allowed them to fall into the power of Cushan-rishathaim, king of Aram Naharaim, whom they served for eight years. 9 But when the Israelites cried out to the LORD, he raised up for them a savior, Othniel, son of Caleb's younger brother Kenaz, who rescued them. 10 The spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he judged Israel. When he went out to war, the LORD delivered Cushan-risha-thaim, king of Aram, into his power, so that he made him subject. 11 The land then was at rest for forty years, until Othniel, son of Kenaz, died. 12 Again the Israelites offended the LORD, who because of this offense strengthened Eglon, king of Moab, against Israel. 13 In alliance with the Ammonites and Amalekites, he attacked and defeated Israel, taking possession of the city of palms. 14 The Israelites then served Eglon, king of Moab, for eighteen years. 15 But when the Israelites cried out to the LORD, he raised up for them a savior, the Benjaminite Ehud, son of Gera, who was left-handed. It was by him that the Israelites sent their tribute to Eglon, king of Moab. 16 Ehud made himself a two-edged dagger a foot long, and wore it under his clothes over his right thigh. 17 He presented the tribute to Eglon, king of Moab, who was very fat, 18 and after the presentation went off with the tribute bearers. 19 He returned, however, from where the idols are, near Gilgal, and said, "I have a private message for you, O king." And the king said, "Silence!" Then when all his attendants had left his presence, 20 and Ehud went in to him where he sat alone in his cool upper room, Ehud said, "I have a message from God for you." So the king rose from his chair, 21 and then Ehud with his left hand drew the dagger from his right thigh, and thrust it into Eglon's belly. 22 The hilt also went in after the blade, and the fat closed over the blade because he did not withdraw the dagger from his body. 23 Then Ehud went out into the hall, shutting the doors of the upper room on him and locking them. 24 When Ehud had left and the servants came, they saw that the doors of the upper room were locked, and thought, "He must be easing himself in the cool chamber." 25 They waited until they finally grew suspicious. Since he did not open the doors of the upper room, they took the key and opened them. There on the floor, dead, lay their lord! 26 During their delay Ehud made good his escape and, passing the idols, took refuge in Seirah. 27 On his arrival he sounded the horn in the mountain region of Ephraim, and the Israelites went down from the mountains with him as their leader. 28 "Follow me," he said to them, "for the LORD has delivered your enemies the Moabites into your power." So they followed him down and seized the fords of the Jordan leading to Moab, permitting no one to cross. 29 On that occasion they slew about ten thousand Moabites, all of them strong and valiant men. Not a man escaped. 30 Thus was Moab brought under the power of Israel at that time; and the land had rest for eighty years. 31 After him there was Shamgar, son of Anath, who slew six hundred Philistines with an oxgoad. He, too, rescued Israel. Table of Contents Previous Chapter Next Chapter Footnotes 1 The Philistines: non-Semitic invaders who gave their name to all Palestine, although they occupied only its south-western plains. Their confederation embraced the five leading cities of Gaza, Ashkelon, Ashdod, Gath and Ekron. 2 Asherahs: elsewhere rendered "sacred poles." See note on Exodus 34:13 and on Deut 7:5. Here the word seems to mean "goddesses." New American Bible Copyright © 1991, 1986, 1970 Confraternity of Christian Doctrine, Inc., Washington, DC. All rights reserved. Neither this work nor any part of it may be reproduced, distributed, performed or displayed in any medium, including
Re: [CTRL] WND: MYTHS OF THE MIDDLE EAST Shocked? You Should Be!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/15/2000 6:16:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Strange then that there were Christian churches and Jewish synagogues in Palestine pre-1948...many going back hundreds of years... Absolutely true. Don't forget that many Palestinians are Christians and they aren't welcomed by the Israeli either. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] GORE WANTS YOUR GUNS
-Caveat Lector- Now how does Lieberman and Gore feel about Israelies walking around with little Uzzis terrorizing the neighborhood and slaughtering the innocents in Palestine? When they take the guns away from the Israelies who have been known to turn them on US ships (USS Liberty) and take away their little bombs and napalm fire - perhaps the USA could feel safe - but since I pay to arm the Israelies to the teeth, I feel I have the same right - to arm myself against possible Israelie attack - for you see, there is this thing about cowards with big guns and big mouths shooting off both, that I cannot tolerate.. Easy to slaughter the innocents - Palestinians armed with stones against Uzzis and missiles? Call that a fair fight? A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Uganda Ebola Outbreak Kills 33
In a message dated 10/16/00 5:23:39 AM Central Daylight Time, AOL News writes: Subj:Uganda Ebola Outbreak Kills 33 Date: 10/16/00 5:23:39 AM Central Daylight Time From: AOL News BCC: Ahab42 Uganda Ebola Outbreak Kills 33 .c The Associated Press By HENRY WASSWA KAMPALA, Uganda (AP) - The death toll from an Ebola virus outbreak in northern Uganda has risen to 33 people and left another 63 hospitalized, a government-owned newspaper reported Monday. The Ministry of Health had said in a statement Saturday that at least 31 people had died, but New Vision newspaper said two more people died Sunday in Gulu, a town about 225 miles north of Uganda's capital, Kampala. Reports from the site of the outbreak say the victims are bleeding from the mouth, nose and ears. The area is unsafe due to attacks by the rebel Lord's Resistance Army. The hemorrhagic virus, which kills with devastating speed, turned up two weeks ago and the victims include three student nurses who treated the first Ebola patients in Gulu, the Ministry of Health said. Ninety percent of Ebola victims die, according to the World Health Organization. While not as deadly as HIV, Ebola is terrifying because of it's speed and how it kills. Within four days of coming in contact with the bodily fluids of someone carrying the virus, flu-like symptoms set in, followed by vomiting and diarrhea. Ten to 15 days later, the victim ``bleeds out'' through the eyes, nose, ears and other bodily orifices. Ebola outbreaks usually only last a few weeks since the victims die faster than they are able to spread the virus. The Ebola virus then disappears, only to re-emerge later. Four investigators from the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control will leave for Gulu either Monday or Tuesday to confirm the Ugandan diagnosis and determine how to contain it, CDC spokeswoman Barbara Reynolds said. There is no known cure for Ebola and it is not understood why some patients survive. Scientists also do not know where the virus lives when it is not infecting humans, though contact with monkeys has led to many cases in humans. Uganda had never before recorded an outbreak of Ebola, but there have been cases of the closely related Marburg virus. Ebola was named after a river in Congo, where it was first detected in a number of villages in 1976. Ebola first gained worldwide attention in Richard Preston's 1994 best seller ``The Hot Zone,'' which recounted how the virus turned up in research monkeys in Reston, Va. It was also the subject of the 1995 fictional film ``Outbreak,'' starring Dustin Hoffman. The last major Ebola outbreak struck Kikwit, Congo, in 1995, and killed 245 people. The last recorded outbreak was in Gabon in February 1997, when 10 people died. AP-NY-10-16-00 0623EDT Copyright 2000 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without prior written authority of The Associated Press. Announcement: America Online has added Reuters newswires to News Profiles. To add Reuters articles to your daily news delivery, go to KW: A HREF="aol://5862:146"News Profiles/A and click on "Modify Your News Profiles." Then click "Edit" and add Reuters from the list on the left. To edit your profile, go to keyword A HREF="aol://1722:NewsProfiles" NewsProfiles/A. For all of today's news, go to keyword A HREF="aol://1722:News"News/A. Uganda Ebola Outbreak Kills 33 .c The Associated Press By HENRY WASSWA KAMPALA, Uganda (AP) - The death toll from an Ebola virus outbreak in northern Uganda has risen to 33 people and left another 63 hospitalized, a government-owned newspaper reported Monday. The Ministry of Health had said in a statement Saturday that at least 31 people had died, but New Vision newspaper said two more people died Sunday in Gulu, a town about 225 miles north of Uganda's capital, Kampala. Reports from the site of the outbreak say the victims are bleeding from the mouth, nose and ears. The area is unsafe due to attacks by the rebel Lord's Resistance Army. The hemorrhagic virus, which kills with devastating speed, turned up two weeks ago and the victims include three student nurses who treated the first Ebola patients in Gulu, the Ministry of Health said. Ninety percent of Ebola victims die, according to the World Health Organization. While not as deadly as HIV, Ebola is terrifying because of it's speed and how it kills. Within four days of coming in contact with the bodily fluids of someone carrying the virus, flu-like symptoms set in, followed by vomiting and diarrhea. Ten to 15 days later, the victim ``bleeds out'' through the eyes, nose, ears and other bodily orifices. Ebola outbreaks usually only last a few weeks since the victims die faster than they are able to spread the virus. The Ebola virus then disappears, only to re-emerge later. Four investigators from the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease
[CTRL] Fwd: 01/02 STOCK BROKERS SEE REAL PROBLEMS AHEAD ....
A funny thing happened on the way to the "bull" market...the "bull" just stopped moving. The stock market lives in real time. It reacts instantly to the invisible hands that are able to secretly manipulate it. So, when the market catches the average middle class investor who doesn't fathom the depths or motives of the money barons behind the market, they are usually caught with their pants down around their ankles...with all of their assets exposed. Stock brokers see real problems ahead not only for the American stock market, but its currency, as the European Union fights to save the Euro from collapse. On June 5, 2000 the Bank of International Settlements predicted that the stock market in the United States was about to crash. The 200-page report which was cited by Reuters, Bloomberg, and the Associated Press in Europe, was not mentioned in the United States media. U.S. newspapers which have foreign editions, printed the story in the foreign editions but did not mention the predicted crash in their U.S. papers. IF YOU HAVE MONEY TIED UP IN THE STOCK MARKET, YOU NEED TO READ THIS STORY...ALL OF IT. AT THE PRESENT TIME, THE NATION'S LARGEST STOCK PORTFOLIO MANAGERS ARE VERY QUIETLY DISPOSING OF STOCK AND FILLING THEIR PORTFOLIOS WITH GOLD. HISTORY IS ABOUT TO REPEAT ITSELF, AND ONCE AGAIN, IT WILL BE THE SMALL INVESTOR WHO IS GOING TO SUFFER. If you compare this decade with the roaring 20s when the stock market explosion made millionaires of taxi drivers and housewives investing their milk money, we are at about 1928...just at the time when the nation's wealthiest families were very quietly withdrawing their money from the market and investing it in gold. When the crash hit on October 29, 1929, only the middle class investors were left in the market. At that precise moment, the Federal Reserve contracted the money supply. When the first major sell-off occurred, the middle class investor, who had bought "on margin" discovered he could not borrow money from his local bank to meet his margin calls because they had none to loan. The market crashed. The victims--the middle class investors--were blamed for crash because they "panicked under stress" and sold when they should have held. In reality, their stock was taken at massive losses (along with their collateral) because they couldn't borrow enough to meet the margin calls when they came. When the carnage was over, those who had traded their stock certificates for gold in 1928 and early 1929, came back into the market like vultures picking the bones of the dead, and reaped the rewards. It may be the year 2000, but BLACK THURSDAY IS COMING...and it is coming much sooner than you think. PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT AND READ THE SIDEBAR BEFORE CONTINUING WITH THIS REPORT. NOTE TO THE READER: I had planned to do so, but I will not apologize for the length of this article. The information contained within it is critical to your "investment survival" if you are one of the millions of Americans who invest their own retirement nest egg in the stock market, in mutual funds, or in any securities which are affected by a volatile stock market. The American stock market is being "set up" to crash. And, within the next 6 to 18 months it will suffer a major correction. This "correction" which will be brought about by our massive trade deficits and the devaluation of the American dollar, will be followed shortly thereafter by a major crash that will be felt all over the world, resulting in the merging of the four regional currencies (which will be discussed here) into one global currency. If the globalists behind the New World Order can do so, they will crash the market within 18 months to 2 years. Given that, the crash will likely occur by July, 2004. Something funny happened on the way to the stock market on September 1--only the middle class American investor was not laughing. Nor were the stock analysts who were attempting to figure out why the market is behaving so erratically. Many of those middle class investors who were suddenly puzzled by strange reports coming from Wall Street are "amateur" investors who have assumed the responsibility--and the liability--of investing their own retirement nest eggs in mutual funds, bonds, T-bills, and other various "safe" stocks and securities. When the bull was "roaring," just about any "buy" would increase the value of their personal retirement portfolios. It was 1923 to 1928 all over again. Buying stocks was, once again, becoming a national craze. Everyone wanted a piece of the action. For that reason, most people failed notice, or question, why it was that suddenly their employers--particularly the large, transnational employers--were suddenly so agreeable to turning over to them the right to "manage" their own retirement accounts. And, for the most part, they didn't care. They were, after all, making more money "on paper" than they ever thought possible. Many, in fact, have since
[CTRL] Fwd: 02/02 STOCK BROKERS SEE REAL PROBLEMS AHEAD ...
[ Continued from Part 01/02 ] The Warning Flags Are Up Today's analysts also see the warning signs. However, instead of viewing them as such, they appear to be confused. Most see the bull continuing at a somewhat slower pace. Jeffrey Applegate, chief investment strategist for Lehman Brothers see growth in the 7% to 8% range with rising interest rates from the Fed to slow the economy. "We're in the same bull market that got under way in October of 1990," Applegate said. No warning flags here. John Bogle, the founder of Vanguard Group (mutual funds) offers a less rosy picture, but still sees "bull market" growth continuing at a much slower pace--around 2%. Abby Cohen, chief U.S. investment strategist for Goldman Sachs sees steady growth over the next 3 to 5 years--but in the 7% to 8% range rather than the 20% to 30% range. No warnings to get out of the market here. Byron Wien, chief U.S. strategist for Morgan Stanley Dean Witter believes the 20% returns are over for a while, admitting "...there is not [enough] money around to drive stocks a lot higher." He predicts returns in the 4% range. Wien is correct when he says the money is not there. The money is now in gold. It is important to note that each of these market forecasters represent the interests of the transnational investment banking groups who pays their salaries, and not the middle class investors who stands to lose their retirement nest eggs if, and when, the market heads south. The Stock Market Bellwethers Most stock analysts judge the merit of the offering on its "valuation" which is, itself, theoretically based on the corporation's earnings performance. Earnings, or earning potential, the amateur has been advised, should be the sole determining factor applied when buying, since earnings determine valuation. That is why, we have been told, the market corrected itself earlier this year. But, we have a problem. It is the problem noted by Greg Ip of the Wall Street Journal. Cisco System and JDS Uniphase show all the healthy signs that say "buy," yet their stock plummeted in value. Wal-Mart posted a 28% sales gain, and their stock floundered like a fish out of water. The bellwether isn't working...or, someone is manipulating the market in an attempt to slow it down. The question is, why? Corporate earnings across the board remain robust, signifying that even with an alarming loss of thousands of middle to high income jobs since the passage of NAFTA and, in many cases, the loss of entire industries from the industrial corridor of the Northeast and the texile corridor of the South, the American people still have confidence in the economy and in the business sector. And that is part of the problem. The American economy is killing the Euro Americans today are complaining about the $1.60 to $2.00 per gallon they were forced to suffer throughout much of the late summer. Yet, in England, motorists are paying $4.60 per gallon; in the Netherlands, $4.15 per gallon; in France, $4.10 per gallon; and in Italy and Sweden, $3.85 per gallon. British farmers, German truckers and Italian fishermen are protesting the surging prices (much like American truckers did earlier this year) because the deliberately staged oil shortages by the oil producing cartels are playing havoc with the European economy much more so than the American economy. (It is important to note that in the European Union, gasoline taxation is the universal revenue generator for the EU government. The income taxes paid by the citizens of the Euro States are currently retained by those nations.) The European Union tax problems are compounded by the sagging Euro, a victim of the soaring American economy. What is most problematic is that on July 1, 2002, the Euro will become not only the official currency of all the European Union states, it will also become the model for the regionalization, and ultimately, the globalization of money. If the Euro cannot hold its own against the dollar or, for that matter, the pound sterling, it will have trouble replacing the lira, the mark, the franc, and the pound as the official currency of the European Union. In England, Margaret Thatcher has launched a miraculous comeback campaigning against the Euro. It is likely that Thatcher's revived Tories will challenge the Labor Party's control of the House of Commons with a "no confidence" vote on the issue of the Euro by the first of the year and willl successfully force Prime Minister Tony Blair to stand for re-election. To avoid that "no confidence vote," the Euro--the root of all of Blair's political problems--needs to be able to challenge the American dollar as the world's preferred currency. Even with massive trade imbalances, rising unemployment, and the threatened exodus of over 60% of America's industrial base to the emerging nations because of greatly enhanced environmental regulations if Al Gore is elected the 43rd President of the United States, the iindustrial
Re: [CTRL] IMPORTANT: WARNING FROM ISLAMIC TERRORISTS (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Not doubting your integrity Mike.but some of the terminology used here came from even the Curse of the Pharaohs.death comes swift - certain phrases I have read before So food for thought; enjoyed the item - but it is as if everything old is new again? But then the show must go on for the tickets have already been sold? Cui bono. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] School shooters: Secret service findings
School shooters: Secret service findings http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/find15.html October 15, 2000 Here are preliminary findings from the Secret Service's study of 41 school shooters in 37 incidents. The Secret Service shared the findings with the Sun-Times, without confidential information from the files. The Sun-Times selected quotations from public records to illustrate the findings. PLANNING: They don't "snap." These attacks were neither spontaneous nor impulsive. In almost all cases, the attacker developed the idea in advance. Half considered the attack for at least two weeks and had a plan for at least two days. Two years before the shootings at Columbine near Littleton, Colo., Dylan Klebold wrote in his journal, "I'll go on my killing spree against anyone I want." One student showed his friends four bullets: three for people he hated and one for himself. And that's just how he used them. CONCERN: Almost all attackers had come to the attention of someone (school officials, police, fellow students) for disturbing behavior. One student worried his friends by talking often of putting rat poison in the cheese shakers at a pizza restaurant. Others wrote poems about homicide and suicide. Adults usually didn't investigate, remaining unaware of the depth of the problem. Few of the boys had close relationships with adults. Few participated in organized sports or other group activities. Q. Where were the grown-ups? A. Luke Woodham in Pearl, Miss., recalls, "Most of them didn't care. I just felt like nobody cared. I just wanted to hurt them or kill them." Before Columbine, the local sheriff had been given copies of Eric Harris' Web site, describing his pipe bombs, with page after page of threats: "You all better f-- hide in your houses because im comin for EVERYONE soon, and I WILL be armed to the f-- teeth and I WILL shoot to kill and I WILL f-- KILL EVERYTHING." COMMUNICATION: They aren't "loners." In more than three-fourths of the cases, the attacker told someone about his interest in mounting an attack at school. In more than half the incidents, the attacker told more than one person. Some people knew detailed information, while others knew "something spectacular" was going to happen on a particular date. These communications were usually with friends or schoolmates; in only two cases was the confidant an adult. In fewer than one-fourth of the cases did the attacker make a direct threat to the target. "I'm going to kill her sometime today or tomorrow," a student warned. BYSTANDERS: Those who knew in advance sometimes encouraged the attack and sometimes urged an escalation of the plan, but only rarely told anyone or shared their concern with others before the attack. In about one-third of the cases, the attack was influenced or dared by others or a group. A friend of Harris' asked him what he was going to do with bomb-making equipment. "He said he was going to blow up the school." A friend of of one shooter was told what would happen. "I was his friend. Calling someone would have been a betrayal. It just didn't seem right to tell." MENTAL ILLNESS: Few shooters had been diagnosed with a mental illness, or had histories of drug or alcohol abuse. But more than half had a history of feeling extremely depressed or desperate. About three-fourths either threatened to kill themselves, made suicidal gestures or tried to kill themselves before the attack. Six killed themselves during the attack. Luke Woodham's journal: "I am not insane. I am angry. I am not spoiled or lazy, for murder is not weak and slow-witted, murder is gutsy and daring. . . . I killed because people like me are mistreated every day. . . . I am malicious because I am miserable." Woodham says now, "I didn't really see my life going on any further. I thought it was all over with. . . . I couldn't find a reason not to do it." MOTIVES: Many shooters had more than one motive. The most frequent motivation was revenge. More than three-fourths were known to hold a grievance, real or imagined, against the target and/or others. In most cases, this was the first violent act against the target. In his journal, Kip Kinkel of Springfield, Ore., wrote, "Hate drives me. . . . I am so full of rage. . . . Everyone is against me. . . . As soon as my hope is gone, people die." Eric Houston: "My HATEtrid tord humanity forced me to do what I did. . . . I know parenting had nothing to do with what happens today. It seems my sanity has slipped away and evil taken it's place. . . . And if I die today please bury me somewhere beautiful." PROBLEM SOLVING: Many saw the attack as a way to solve a problem. Bullying was common. Two-thirds of the attackers described feeling persecuted, bullied or threatened--not teasing but torment. Other problems they were trying to solve: a lost love, an expulsion or suspension, even a parent planning to move the family. Loukaitis: "Some day people are going to regret teasing me." "I just
[CTRL] Protecting Bush-Cheney
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.consortiumnews.com/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.consortiumnews.com/101500a.html"The Consortium/A - October 16, 2000 Protecting Bush-CheneyBy Sam Parry The national news media have altered the course of Campaign 2000 perhaps decisively by applying two starkly different standards for judging how Texas Gov. George W. Bush and his running mate, Dick Cheney, handle the truth versus how Vice President Al Gore does. Bush and Cheney have gotten almost a free pass. They have been allowed to utter misleading statements and even outright falsehoods with little or no notice. By contrast, Gores comments have been fly-specked and every inconsistency trumpeted to support the medias theme reinforced by the Republicans that Gore is an inveterate liar. What the press rarely if ever admits is that many of Gores lies actually were cases of media mis-reporting. This litany of bungled stories includes many of the medias favorites: the I was the one that started Love Canal case, inventing the Internet, inspiring the male lead in Love Story (which author Eric Segal says was true), Gores work as a boy on the family farm (Gore's version again was true), the degree of danger he faced in Vietnam, his alleged misrepresentation of his fathers civil rights record, and his alleged exaggeration that his sister worked as a Peace Corps volunteer. The national news media mangled all these stories, a failure compounded by th e pundit shows that routinely reference these mythical stories as fact. On the Love Canal case, for instance, Gore actually referred to a Tennessee toxic waste dump and said that was the one that started it all. The Washington Post and The New York Times transformed the quote to I was the one that started it all. The Republicans refined it to say, I was the one who started it all. [For details, see our examination of the Love Canal case .] The other stories have been variations on the same sort of bogus reporting, with the Republicans spinning the news media in a calculated attempt to redefine Al Gore by all accounts, a hard-working, thoughtful public servant into a caricature and a laughingstock. Yet rather than proof of an unethical press corps (and another example of Republican dirty politics), these canards have become the historical backdrop a kind of accepted reference point that has sustained the depiction of Gore as a dishonest man. So, when Gore makes an innocuous mistake, such as remembering inaccurately being at a Texas disaster scene in 1998 with the director of the Federal Emergency Management Administration when he actually was with the directors deputy the news media go into a sort of press riot over its Gore-as-serial-exaggerator theme. Yet, saying you were on a trip with the FEMA director isnt exactly like claiming you were hanging out with Nelson Mandela. Indeed, it made no sense to think that the vice president of the United States would believe he was polishing his record by mentioning the FEMA director. Yet that was exactly the ugly conclusion that the Republicans and the press corps reached . [For the best overall coverage of the medias pattern of mis-reporting Gore, see Bob Somerbys Daily Howler ] By contrast to the front-page treatment given Gores FEMA mistake or the dispute over Gores description of an overcrowded Florida high school, the press shrugs its shoulders at false statements by Bush and Cheney. In the second presidential debate, for instance, Bush argued that a stronger hate-crimes law was not needed in Texas because three men were facing the death penalty for the racially motivated murder of James Byrd, a black man dragged to his death behind a pickup truck. Its going to be hard to punish them any worse after theyre put to death, Bush said, with an out-of-place smile across his face. But Bush wasnt telling the truth. One of the three killers actually had received life imprisonment, not the death penalty. Bush had misstated or exaggerated the facts of a major criminal case that had occurred during his tenure as Texas governor. One could only imagine how the press would have played up a similar mistake by Gore. It would have been all the voters would have heard about for a week. With its penchant for cookie-cutter themes used to define candidates, the press also might have seized on Bushs smirking comment about the condemned men and used it to remind the public about Bushs earlier insensitivity when he mimicked condemned murderess Carla Faye Tucker as she was pleading for her life. With pursed lips in mock desperation, [Bush said] Please dont kill me, wrote Talk magazines conservative columnist Tucker Carlson. Given the medias endless search for a personality flaw behind Gores supposed exaggerations, a similar standard applied to Bush might have led to a conclusion that he suffers from a personality defect that leads him to mock people he is about to put to
[CTRL] Fwd: Keep the faith: How to be a civil libertarian
-Caveat Lector- http://civilliberty.about.com/newsissues/civilliberty/li brary/howto/hthttp://civilliberty.about.com/newsissues/c ivilliberty/l ibrary/howto/h So, what are civil libertarians and why are they so damned annoying? And how can you join the club? Difficulty Level: medium Time Required: A lifetime Here's How: Recognize that the highest political value is personal freedom. Keep in mind that freedom is of utmost importance especially when it's inconvenient. Remember that the right to criticize the government doesn't end when a war begins; that's when it's especially needed. Be consistent. There are freedoms that you favor and freedoms you don't. The right to be left alone applies to them all, equally. Be consistent. There are people who you favor and people you don't. Respect for the rights of folks you despise is at the root of freedom. Don't support "reasonable" limits on freedom -- you'll get "reasonabled" into a police state over a generation. Don't support politicians who think that liberty is a privilege, not a right. Don't sell out one right to help another -- you lose allies that way and will lose the whole cause in time. Never let somebody convince you that the current political system is more important than specific rights. People will be here long after the government falls. Remember that in the cause of freedom, your strongest ally may be your worst enemy on other matters of policy or personality. Tips: Keep the faith. Freedom is often unpopular because it makes politics difficult and society tumultuous. It's supposed to do that! Related Features: Basics of liberty http://civilliberty.about.com/newsissues/civilliberty/ms ublib.htm"http://civilliberty.about.com/newsissues/civi lliberty/m sublib.htmhttp://civilliberty.about.com/newsissues/civil liberty/li brary/weekly/ahttp://civilliberty.about.com/newsissues/c ivilliberty/l ibrary/weekly/ A few rules to live by http://civilliberty.about.com/newsissues/civilliberty/li brary/weekly/ahttp://civilliberty.about.com/newsissues/c ivilliberty/l ibrary/weekly/ -- Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed. -- Dwight David Eisenhower www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What if Clinton decides to stay in office?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/15/2000 9:52:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After all, Clinton has managed to tear apart practically every restraint that was designed to arrest his insatiable lust for power. He has turned the Constitution upside down and turned Congress inside out. He has demonstrated that neither the media nor the military brass has the character to resist his tyrannical inclinations. Truly we have experienced Americaâs first imperial presidency. Therefore, why should he leave office gracefully? Some people donât think he will. What would the American people do if Clinton decided to stay in office? This is a strange posting, but I think if one puts the words George Bush (not W) in place of Clinton, we can come closer to something really interesting. Just the other day, someone on television (C-SPAN I think), was talking about how lucky we were all going to be if Dubya got in. We would have the expertise of (here a long list of people from the Reagan and Bush years) to run things. I noticed that most of the guys who were indicted and then pardoned by Reagan and bush were not included. In some ways it has been as if the Republicans never left office. They spent eight years subverting the Democrats, and now they hope to get back to what they were doing before. What fun. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] George Bush is dumb? That's stupid
-Caveat Lector- George Bush is dumb? That's stupid Besides, history shows 'wonks' don't make the best presidents Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush answers questions during a town hall style event in Langhorne, Pa. last week. By John H. Fund MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR Oct. 16 - "I've been known to mangle up a syl-LA-bull or two myself," said George W. Bush as he purposefully mispronounced a word in his second debate with Al Gore. Even Democrats who think of Bush as a "bumbler" must agree that he exhibits few of the signs of insecurity that often accompany people who are thrust into roles where they aren't ready. 'In his sophomore year at Harvard, Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale.' - WASHINGTON POST BUSH EXUDES confidence, purpose and a sense of humor about the grammatical mistakes that have earned him the nickname "the English patient" from reporters. Then is he smart enough to be president? A successful governor of Texas for six years, Bush has been accused of trading on his father's prominence by the state's Democrats, but until now they've hardly ever ventured to suggest he was dim. George W. Bush graduated from Yale and earned an MBA from Harvard, racking up a respectable academic resume that was clearly better than Gore's. A FOR EFFORT Earlier this year The Washington Post reported that Gore's college grades were studded with Cs and even a D in one science course. "In his sophomore year at Harvard, Gore's grades were lower than any semester recorded on Bush's transcript from Yale," the Post noted. The newspaper went on to outline Gore's spotty graduate school record. At Vanderbilt's divinity school he received five Fs out of the eight classes he took before dropping out. He then enrolled at Vanderbilt's law school, but dropped out after compiling a mediocre academic record. "This election is not an IQ test," says Jennifer Braceras, a columnist for The Boston Globe. "It is about which candidate has better judgment, and it's clear the affable, authentic and sensible Bush would make the better leader." Certainly intelligence or academic accomplishments haven't been a good gauge of who would make a good president. Jimmy Carter was extremely bright, but his presidency proved a failure in part because of his inability to delegate authority (Remember Carter assigning the White House tennis court times?) and his failure to command loyalty. Ronald Reagan, on the other hand, was often ridiculed as an "amiable dunce," but historians increasingly consider him one of the giants of the American presidency. It is true that Bush became his party's candidate with less relevant government experience and expertise in political debates than that of any modern nominee. Some of the rough edges that come from that lack of experience are painful to watch. But that was also true of Reagan and Harry Truman before him. October 3, 2000 At the first presidential debate Bush and Gore discuss issues of character and who is best qualified to lead the country. Former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan recounts how in a recent conversation with Reagan's former Secretary of State George Shultz, he surprised her when he said he was backing Bush. "Does he have enough experience?" she wondered. Shultz was impatient. "I've spent time with him," he said. "He's like Reagan. He's got it." By that he meant Bush had a Reaganesque view of how to make things work along with a similar charm. REAGANESQUE CHARM I've thought a lot about that anecdote. Of course, Bush has limitations, as we all do. But perhaps he's on his way to mastering some of the essential elements of leadership that Reagan had - including a limited, focused policy agenda and an ability to work well with others. An Opinion Dynamics poll found that by 84 percent to 6 percent, voters preferred having a candidate who occasionally misspeaks to one who "makes things up." We all know who that latter candidate is. I understand the qualms some people have about Bush, but after watching Gore's shape-shifting changes of personality and demeanor in the last two debates I'll take Bush's authenticity over Gore's policy wonkery any day. John H. Fund is a member of the Wall Street Journal editorial board and a regular contributor to MSNBC on the Internet. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always
[CTRL] Al Gore is a liar? That's not true
-Caveat Lector- Al Gore is a liar? That's not true Vice president's misstatements are minor - the media has committed the real transgressions Democratic presidential candidate Vice President Al Gore talks to supporters in Milwaukee last week. By David Neiwert MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR Oct. 16 - Al Gore is a liar, and George Bush is dumb: That seems to be the rap on the two men running for the presidency according to the national press. Bush demonstrated in the first two debates that the legend of his stupidity is nonsense, despite a couple of stumbles. Contrarily, at the Boston debate Al Gore seemed to provide grist for the mill of stories about his "truthfulness." But that charge, too, is mostly a myth - as are many of Gore's alleged lies. This "lying" is supposed to represent a deep-seated problem...of the vice president's - as though journalists and TV talking heads had suddenly sprouted psychology degrees on their résumés. THE "GORE IS A LIAR" tale is widely presented to the public as a reminder that personal character remains an issue for many voters. This "lying" is supposed to represent a deep-seated problem, possibly a psychological malfunction, of the vice president's - as though journalists and TV talking heads had suddenly sprouted psychology degrees on their résumés. But what the case represents is actually a breakdown in basic standards of journalism - simple factual accuracy - on a massive scale. Nearly the entire array of supposed "lies" uttered by Gore are gross distortions of what the vice president actually uttered. Almost all of these statements are partisan renderings of otherwise innocent remarks, and calling them "lies" or "fabrications" is at best a gross overstatement: Gore claims he "invented the Internet." Actually, Gore never said this. What he said, during a CNN interview with Wolf Blitzer on March 9, 1999, was this: "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." This is a clumsy rendition of a factual event: Gore was a key player in Congress in moving the network that became the Internet from the realm of the military and academia, where it originally was devised, and into the public realm, where it became the mass phenomenon it is today. October 11, 2000 Candidates Al Gore and George Bush respond to question on charges that Bush' s campaign called Gore a 'serial exaggerator' and Gore's campaign called Bush a 'bungler'. Vincent Cerf, the man widely credited as the actual "father of the Internet," argues that Gore should get a great deal of credit for playing a seminal role in creating the legal foundation for the Internet. And even former House Speaker Newt Gingrich - no ally of the vice president - agrees: "Gore is not the father of the Internet, but in all fairness Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet," he recently told a Washington gathering. SAYING SORRY ON 'LOVE STORY' Gore claims he was the role model for "Love Story." This tale originated with a 1997 story in the Nashville Tennessean in an interview with the book' s author, Erich Segal. The reporter wrote that Segal indicated that Gore and his wife, Tipper, were the role models for the book's main characters. Then, in December 1997, in a light, late-night conversation about favorite movies with a pair of reporters from Time magazine and The New York Times, Gore briefly mentioned the story, accurately, as a humorous aside. Later, after the tale had blown up and was distorted into one of Gore's "fabrications," the Times contacted Segal, and he told them the Tennessean was wrong: Gore in fact was one of the models for the Oliver Barrett character - along with the politician's roommate, actor Tommy Lee Jones - but Tipper had nothing to do with it. Nonetheless, despite the Times ' correction and the insistence of the original Time reporter, Karen Tumulty, that the remark wasn't a boast of any sort, and was factually correct - "He said, 'All I know is that's what he [Segal] told reporters in Tennessee' " - the fabricated "fabrication" remains a standard of TV and newspaper pundits. Gore was never a farm boy - he grew up in a posh Washington hotel. A number of critics, both in print and on TV, have castigated Gore for making remarks on the stump about the chores he performed on his family farm in Tennessee. They point to Gore's youth as a senator's son, his attendance at a private school and his residence at a Washington hotel. But that's only a half-truth; though his school years were spent in D.C., Gore spent his summers working on his parents' farm in Carthage, Tenn. Every biographer of Gore - including those critical of the presidential candidate, such as Bob Zelnick - has reported that the vice president performed strenuous daily chores every summer of his youth. And the summers on the farm have likewise been detailed in a number of in-depth Gore
[CTRL] OEN 10/16/00
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - October Surprise Will Bill Destroy More Aspirin Factories to Help Al? Cruise missiles pointed at Austin. NOW is the time for all medicine factory employees in the Muslim world to stay home from work. At least until after Tuesday night's final presidential debate. Given the Clinton administration's shameful record, there is every reason to expect Third World blood to be shed to save Al Gore's flagging bid for the presidency. To be sure, the prospect of Osama bin Laden and his fanatical cohorts turned into terrorist tartare by U.S. bombs is deeply satisfying to contemplate. And the cowards who murdered the men and women of the USS Cole have given the United States every reason to hit the guilty back hard, as we must. But who can trust Clinton to do it right, to act on hard facts and clear principle unsullied by selfishness? Our dog-wagging commander-in-chief is no stranger to committing acts of war to protect himself politically. As Christopher Hitchens points out in his devastating anti-Clinton screed "No One Left to Lie to," this president fired cruise missiles three times at foreigners on days when impeachment news was bad. * On Aug. 20, 1998, as Monica Lewinsky prepared to go before the grand jury and three days after Clinton's non-apology TV apology fell flat, the president ordered a missile attack on a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan. The administration said the factory was used to make chemical weapons. That turned out to be a lie - too late, alas, for the suffering Sudanese who depended on medicine made at that plant. * That same night, Clinton sent a barrage of expensive cruise missiles against purported terrorist training camps in Afghanistan. There was minimal damage, and one wonders why, if not for political reasons, a costly, fruitless attack was ordered in such haste. * On Dec. 15, 1998, Clinton ordered a missile attack on Baghdad, ostensibly to punish Saddam Hussein for not complying with U.N. weapons inspectors. Did Saddam have it coming? Absolutely. But he had it coming for a long time. It was curious indeed that the missiles went flying as the House was set to take up the impeachment debate, which was postponed for a few days. Strangely enough, the missiles stopped falling after the House impeachment vote showed Republicans would not be intimidated. Now, here we are less than a month away from Election Day, with the Mideast crisis putting Gore in a bad position on several fronts. Military readiness, for one. As The Post's Bob McManus discussed in his column Friday, the Cole incident indicates a Navy stretched too thin, and unprepared to counter threats in the post-Cold War world. Second, the prospect of a wider Mideast war is causing oil prices to spike and the stock market to tremble. A new Arab-Israeli war could cause the OPEC nations to shut off the West's oil pipeline. The Strategic Petroleum Reserve, released by Clinton to shield Gore from SUV drivers angry over high gas prices, was supposed to be for emergencies like this. As the Mideast situation deteriorates, that Clinton decision looks to have imperiled national security for the sake of a self-serving political stunt. Don't be surprised if the U.S. military strikes what we will be told is a terrorist target sometime between now and the start of Tuesday's debate, which should have an unusually large audience given the events of last week. Any attempt by George W. Bush to use the Mideast debacle to make sober, legitimate criticism of Clinton-Gore military and geopolitical policies will be met with pious demagoguery by scoundrel, pseudo-patriotic Democrats. I hope I'm wrong. But we have learned by now never to put anything past Clinton when his political legacy is at stake, as it certainly is in the Bush-Gore referendum. Team Bush had better be ready. So should the American people. The New York Post, October 15, 2000 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Inside China Today - Six Phony Stock Markets Closed
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.insidechina.com/localpress/chonline.php3?id=209249 Click Here: A HREF="http://www.insidechina.com/localpress/chonline.php3?id=209249"Inside China Today - Local Press - Six Phony St /A - Six Phony Stock Markets Closed in Shanxi after Scamming More than USD 1.2 Million SHANXI, China, Oct 13, 2000 -- (China Online) Imagine discovering that a whole new stock exchange had opened just around the corner. Ridiculous? Three hundred would-be investors in Shanxi didn't think so. And neither they nor the police are laughing. The Shanxi public security department and the Taiyuan Supervisory Office of the China Securities Regulatory Commission (CSRC) have closed six separate attempts to operate fake stock markets in the province since April. The bogus stock markets appeared in Taiyuan, Linfen and in other cities of Shanxi, reported the October 10 Hong Kong Ming Pao. The accused allegedly took money from would-be investors and sold fake shares to them, even charging commissions on the sales. Some operators also conducted a phony "futures and options exchange," the article said. To lure investors, some of these stock exchanges had computers displaying what appeared to be financial data. Authorities claim, however, that the data was counterfeitcreated and manipulated by the accused. In fact, orders could neither be passed to legitimate stock exchanges nor be legally registered for transfer. All funds invested by the victims were deposited into the personal bank accounts of the alleged perpetrators, according to the article. The Shanxi public security department and the securities supervisory department investigated a total of six illegal securities operations. Four companies named in the story are: Taiyuan Huihe Financial Consultative Co., Taiyuan Jinxuan Co. and Gujiao Jinsheng Investment Consultative Co. More than 300 investors claim to have been swindled out of nearly CNY 10 million (USD 1.21 million). To date, the police have recovered only a fraction of this figure, the story said. (C) 2000 Copyright ChinaOnline. All rights reserved. Republication or redissemination of the contents of this screen are expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of ChinaOnline. See the archive of the stories YOUR AD COULD BE HERE. Click for details! Connectivity: Illuminati Online Ad Serving: Open Ad Stream About EIN Advertising Info Privacy Policy © 1995-2000 European Internet Network Inc. All rights reserved. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Alquds Intefada UPDATE
-Caveat Lector- Alquds Intefada UPDATE every 30 min. 16/10/2000 Time: 11:30AM Bilateral meetings are taking place at the moment in Sharm Alshiek, Egypt. Mr. President Husni Mubarak, is a main party in these meetings for he is trying to come out with a common vision and work plan accepted by all concerned parties. Time: 11:00AM A large number of Palestinians are taking part in the funeral of martyr Raed Uoda in Ramallah, while the Palestinian territories witness a cautious calm in waiting for the Sharm Alshiek summit results. Time: 10:30AM Palestinian Medical Institutions have apparently declared a state of emergency. This can be seen in sevens ambulances that have been heading flashpoints in different parts of Gaza Strip today's morning. A large number of students from Nusairat refugee camp, Gaza Strip, are taking part in a demonstration inside the camp in protest of the Israeli occupation practices and in support of Alaqsa Intifada. Time: 10:00AM Late last night Jews from Tel-Abib attempted to burn tow Palestinian citizens. The incident resulted in light burns to the Palestinians. A large number of Palestinians are gathering at Alaqsa holly mosque to prevent the Jewish Temple Mount custodians from laying the foundation stone. Thousands of Jewish worshipers and settlers are gathered in the courtyard of the so-called Wailing Wall "Alboraq Wall" which is the real name of this Moslem place. Time: 9:30AM President Arafat leaves to Sharm Alshiek, Egypt. The National Security Directorate-Gaza issued yesterday an urgent press release stating that the Israeli occupation is continuing violating signed agreements. Such violations can be seen in expanding the Israeli military stronghold located at Aldshuhada junction, Gaza. Thousands of Palestinians take part in the funeral of martyr Raed Hamouda who fallen yesterday in Albeira city. All Palestinian national and Islamic forces called yesterday for a Day of Anger in the Palestinian territories, they also called Palestinians to go out into flashpoints in large numbers in order to escalate and continue Alaqsa Intifada. The Israeli occupation forces tighten the siege imposed on the Palestinian territories of which Hebron is under curfew. An Israeli patrol attempted late yesterday to enter Araba village "A" area, Jenin. Violent clashes erupted between citizens and the Israeli soldiers. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IEM 2000 US Presidential Winner-Takes-All
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.biz.uiowa.edu/iem/markets/pr_Pres00_WTA.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.biz.uiowa.edu/iem/markets/pr_Pres00_WTA.html" IEM 2000 US Presidential Winner-Takes-All Marke /A - IEM PROSPECTUS: PRES00_WTA 2000 US PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION Winner-Takes-All Market At noon (C.S.T.) on Monday, May 1, 2000, the Iowa Electronic Market (IEM) will open trading in a winner-takes-all market based on the November 7, 2000, U.S. Presidential election. The payoffs in this market will be based on the popular vote received by the official Democratic, Reform, and Republican nominees in the 2000 U.S. Presidential election. Payoffs are NOT affected by votes received by nominees from other parties, the outcome of the electoral college or any vote taken by the House of Representatives should such vote be necessary. This document describes that market and should be viewed as a supplement to the Trader's Manual. Except as specified in this prospectus, trading rules for this market are the same as those specified in the Trader's Manual for the Iowa Electronic Market. CONTRACTS The financial contracts initially traded in this market are: CodeContract Description Dem 1$ if the Democratic Party nominee receives the most popular votes, $0 otherwise Reform 1$ if the Reform Party nominee receives the most popular votes, $0 otherwise Rep 1$ if the Republican Party nominee receives the most popular votes, $0 otherwise DETERMINATION OF LIQUIDATION VALUES This is a winner-takes-all market. The payoff will be determined by which of the three nominees receive the biggest share of the popular vote cast for the Democratic, Reform, and Republican candidates in the 2000 U.S. Presidential election. Contracts associated with the two nominees that do not receive the bigger number of popular votes in the election will pay off $0. Contracts associated with the nominee that receives the bigger number of popular votes will pay off $1, provided that there have been no contract spin-offs in the market. In the event of spin-offs, payoffs are determined as described below. The Friday, November 10, 2000, New York Times will be the official source used to determine payoffs. In the event that the three parties' popular votes are not reported in that edition of the New York Times, the Friday, November 10, 2000, edition of the Washington Post will become the official source. Should neither paper report popular vote in their Friday edition, information last reported in the New York Times will be used. In the event that one of the parties' popular vote is not reported, that vote share will be assumed to be zero. For example, if the Reform Party chooses not to nominate a nominee, then the Reform vote may not be reported in the paper. In such a case, the Reform Party popular vote will be assumed to be 0 for purposes of determining liquidation values. Liquidation formulas can be viewed while you are logged into the IEM trading system by clicking on the market name, PRES00_WTA, at the upper right hand corner of the market window. The judgment of the IEM Governors and Directors will be final in resolving questions of typographical or clerical errors and ambiguities. CONTRACT SPIN-OFFS The Directors of the IEM reserve the right to introduce new contracts to the market as spin-offs of existing contracts. When a contract spin-off occurs, an original contract will be replaced by two or more new contracts which subdivide the payoff space of the original contract. For instance, the contract Dem could be split into two contracts, Dem_G50 and Dem_L50, where Dem_G50 denotes the case in which the Democratic nominee receives the most popular votes AND that the Democratic voteshare is 50% or more of the total three-party vote, while Dem_L50 denotes the case in which the Democratic nominee receives the most popular votes AND that the Democratic voteshare is less than 50% of the total three-party vote. No holder of the pre-spinoff contracts will be adversely affected. Traders will receive the same number of each of the new contracts as they held in the original, and the sum of the liquidation values of the new contracts will equal the liquidation value of the original. Outstanding limit orders to buy or sell the contract which is to be spun-off will be canceled just prior to the spin-off. Decisions to spin-off a contract will be announced at least two days in advance of the spin-off. The new contract names, the specifications regarding liquidation values and the timing of the spin-off will be included in the announcement. This announcement will appear as an Announcement on your WebEx login screen.
[CTRL] Israel's war measures and the legacy of Zionism
Israel's war measures and the legacy of Zionism By Chris Marsden and David North 16 October 2000 http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/oct2000/mide-o16.shtml MESSAGE ATTACHED Israelswar.doc
Re: [CTRL] Remember the Maine! And the Other Ships Sunk To Start a War
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/16/2000 7:43:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A 1976 investigation found that the Maine was sunk due to a self-inflicted blast, probably as a result of coal bunker fire on board. Interesting this, because I met a man in Tampa who told me that his grandfather had been on the dock looking at the Maine when the explosion occurred. He was only about l5 or l6 at that time. He had always told his family that the explosion was from within the ship. I talked with his descendent in l970. I guess we would be better off listening to curious teenagers than our Naval officers. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [Spy News] Things we didn't see on CNN
http://www.zmag.org/zmag/articles/chomup.htm Scenes from the Uprising Noam Chomsky June 1988 Z Magazine, July 1988 In 1982, a delegation of Labor Alignment leaders, including noted hawks, presented to Prime Minister Menahem Begin detailed accounts of terrorist acts against Arabs, including the collective punishment in Halhul: "The men were taken from their houses beginning at midnight, in pajamas, in the cold. The notables and other men were concentrated in the square of the mosque and held there until morning. Meanwhile men of the Border Guards broke into houses, beating people with shouts and curses. During the many hours that hundreds of people were kept in the mosque square, they were ordered to urinate and excrete on one another and also to sing Hatikva [the Israeli national anthem] and to call out `Long Live the State of Israel.' Several times people were beaten and ordered to crawl on the ground. Some were even ordered to lick the earth. At the same time four trucks were commandeered and at daybreak, the inhabitants were loaded on the trucks, about 100 in each truck, and taken like sheep to the Administration headquarters in Hebron. On Holocaust Day, ...the people who were arrested were ordered to write numbers on their hands with their own hands, in memory of the Jews in the extermination camps." -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~ FONT COLOR="#99"eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! /FONTA HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/15/_/7016/_/971698258/"BClick Here!/B/A -_- == SPY NEWS is OSINT newsletter and discussion list associated to Mario's Cyberspace Station http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html == *** NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to SPYNEWS eGroup members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml To subscribe SPYNEWS send a blank message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe SPYNEWS send a blank message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mario Profaca, SPY NEWS eGroup list owner, editor moderator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SPY NEWS home page: http://www.egroups.com/group/spynews =
Re: [CTRL] Remember the Maine! And the Other Ships Sunk To Start a War
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: I guess we would be better off listening to curious teenagers than our Naval officers. Then there was the Gulf of Tonkin Incident . . . A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Defense Foreign Affairs Daily Briefing 16 OCT 00
- Original Message - From: Hei Ron CONT DLPC To: Richard Holbrook (E-mail) Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:16 AM Subject: FW: FYI -- Defense Foreign Affairs Daily Briefing 16 OCT 00 FYI:Excerpt from:Defense Foreign Affairs Daily Briefing 16 OCT 00US Handling of Response to USS Cole Attack Seen as Critical to US Strategic Projection, Domestic Political SituationANALYSIS. By Gregory R. Copley,(see Note 1) Editor, GIS. The actual and perceived response by the United States Government to the terrorist attack on the Arleigh Burke-class Aegis destroyer USS Cole (DDG-67) in the port of Aden on October 12, 2000, is now seen as a critical milestone in US strategic credibility worldwide, and to the US domestic attitude toward the incumbent Clinton-Gore Administration. (See Note 2)The changing nature of international terrorism, in which there is now greater masking of the specific - but not the general - perpetrators of the terrorist acts increases the difficulty of formulating decisive responses and thereby increases the perception of impotence of the target government. The sense of impotence and frustration is only increased when the victim threatens strong retaliatory action and then cannot deliver.US Secretary of Defense William Cohen, shortly after the Cole attack (but after a sufficient timelag as to already indicate a lack of preparedness), made a statement which was almost identical to the US leadership statements following all recent incidents: "If ... we determine that terrorists attacked our ship and killed our sailors, then we will not rest until we have tracked down those who are responsible for this vicious and cowardly act."Despite (or perhaps because of) numerous recent visits to Yemen by senior US defense personnel, the US defense and intelligence community clearly failed to adequately assess the threat to visiting US warships and defense personnel. That is not to say that all terrorist acts can be prevented by good intelligence, but rather that terrorist acts can often be deterred through good physical security and better contextual intelligence.In the case of Yemen, it should have been clear that there was a heightened need for security, given Yemen's background, and particularly given the fact that some Yemeni and Islamist factions alike - and particularly the South Yemenis who fought a civil war in 1994 against North Yemen after national unification in 1990 - have a strong interest in embarrassing the Yemen Republic's (northern) President, Lt.-Gen. Ali Abdallah Salih.Those who follow the "global jihad" theory can make the case that the Cole incident was almost totally a response to the present Islamist war against Israel and (according to the fatwa issued by London-based Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed of the UK Shari'a Court) the United States.Those who have spent years following the South Yemeni revolt against the British colonialization of Aden, the overthrow of the traditional rulers, the earlier resentment of the Turkish and Egyptian overlords, and so on, and the more recent bitter South Yemeni guerilla war against Oman, can point - particularly following the relatively forced union of South Yemen (the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen, an extreme marxist state) with North Yemen (Yemen Arab Republic) - to the entrenched nature of guerilla warfare in Aden. There are many surviving members of the British Royal Marines, the British Army, the Royal Navy and the Royal Air Force who can attest to the fact that the Aden station was one of the toughest combat zones during the 1960s. And the people there continued their fighting after the UK withdrew from "East of Suez" in 1960.The reality is that the heightened threat to US naval transits through Aden was the culmination of a number of factors, which include the Bin Laden-led/coordinated jihad as well as the local factors. For many of the combatants, the jihad merely lent a new fervor to their xenophobia and their ongoing wars.What, then, does this mean in terms of the security of US warships transiting Aden? The refueling and transit arrangements were meant not only to assist the US Navy in its deployments, but also to signify and cement relations between the US and the Yemen Republic, controlled from the old northern capital, Sana'a' by the former YAR President (now Yemen Republic President), Gen. Salih. For the US to cease such visits now, after only a year, would clearly indicate weakness and fear on the part of the US, as far as regional observers are concerned. How, then, should the US secure its position without incurring major human and financial costs?To begin with, proper attention needs to be paid to routine security during refueling stops. This was clearly not the case with the Cole stopover, despite the reluctance of Washington
[CTRL] Tell A Viv
-Caveat Lector- From www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Middle East Israel's war measures and the legacy of Zionism By Chris Marsden and David North 16 October 2000 Back to screen version As US President Bill Clinton arrives in Sharm el-Sheik, Egypt to take part in an emergency summit aimed at halting two-and-a-half weeks of fighting, the policies of the Israeli regime increasingly resemble those of a military camarilla that has lost any sense of political reality. Despite the best efforts of the apologists of the Israeli regime to place the onus on Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) Chairman Yassir Arafat, it is obvious from the circumstances leading up to the past two weeks of bloodshed that the violence was provoked by right-wing forces within the Israeli establishment, to which Prime Minister Ehud Barak capitulated. The behaviour of the Israeli armed forces, which has left 3,000 Palestinians wounded and almost 100 dead, and has included the use of helicopter gunships to fire missiles into Palestinian villages, is symptomatic of a political leadership that has lost its head. Even Israel's allies in the US and Europe have been reduced to shaking their heads in astonishment. The sense of bewilderment in the highest circles of world imperialism was evidenced by a Financial Times editorial that characterised Israel's helicopter attack on Arafat's headquarters as insane. In politics, even what may appear to be insanity is ultimately dictated by a definite objective logic. To understand why events in the Middle East have taken their present course, one must, as always, begin with an examination of the historical background. Western government and media circles generally portray the struggle now unfolding solely in terms of an Israeli-Palestinian conflict, or a struggle between Israel and a monolithic Arab bloc. But the editorialists who are hurling verbal thunderbolts at the Palestinians for revolting against military repression would be better served by a serious examination of the present state of Israeli society and the historical conditions that have produced it. The nature of the Israeli state What is unfolding in Israel is the product of deep-rooted contradictions, both political and ideological, within the Zionist state. More than a half century has elapsed since Israel's establishment. Its foundation was rooted in the catastrophe that overtook European Jewry in the 1930s and 1940s, culminating in the extermination of six million European Jews in the Nazi holocaust. This was itself the horrendous consequence of the defeat of the European working class by fascism. The Stalinist degeneration of the Soviet Union and the Communist International, and the Soviet bureaucracy's betrayal of the struggle for world socialism, were politically responsible for fascism's victory. Moreover, the Kremlin's repressive methods and the anti-Semitic overtones of its policies played a profound role in discrediting the belief in a socialist alternative amongst Jewish intellectuals and workers. In the 1920s, Jews and Arabs in Palestine, inspired by the Russian Revolution, had come together to form the Palestinian Communist Party (PCP) and advocate a unified struggle for socialism against both the nascent Jewish bourgeoisie and Arab feudalists. Throughout the Second World War, Jewish and Arab workers fought together against their common foreign oppressor, leading to the creation of several joint labour organisations. The PCP could have mounted a successful challenge to the Zionists, but the divisive policies of the Stalinist bureaucracy and its manoeuvring with the imperialist powers prevented its healthy development. The PCP finally broke in two along ethnic lines before the end of the Second World War. Zionism worked to channel the discouragement and despair produced by the near destruction of European Jewry into its campaign to secure a separate Jewish state, which was accomplished in 1948 through the partition of the British protectorate of Palestine. The establishment of Israel was viewed with sympathy by millions around the world who were repelled by Nazism's crimes against the Jewish people. It was hailed as a new and progressive entity dedicated to building a democratic and even egalitarian home for the most terribly oppressed people of Europe and the world. But the Zionist state could never fulfil such promises. Israel was established through a military struggle to wrest control of the land from its Arab inhabitants, beginning with a systematic campaign of terror and intimidation that drove more than three quarters of a million Palestinian Arabs from their homes. The founding principle of the Israeli state was the assertion of the ethnic and religious interests of Jews over those of Arab Muslims. Any criticism of this inherently anti-democratic and repressive standpoint was denounced by Israel's Zionist rulers and their apologists as an expression of anti-Semitism. In order to justify Israel's
[CTRL] Fox News: FBI's Carnivore Just the First Step In Cyber Surveillance
-Caveat Lector- From Fox News: FBI's Carnivore Just the First Step In Cyber Surveillance Monday, October 16, 2000 By Patrick Riley Amid all the hubbub over whether the current system violates privacy rights, the agency has been quietly working on both "Carnivore 2.0" and "Carnivore 3.0," according to FBI documents released this month under a Freedom of Information Act claim filed by the Electronic Privacy Information Center. The current Carnivore is version 1.3.4, according to the documents. An "Enhanced Carnivore" program has been under development since last November #151; under a $650,000 contract scheduled to end in January 2001. Most of the details on the souped-up snoopers were blacked out in heavy black marker before the papers were released. The Federal Bureau of Investigation makes no bones about its plans for the system, which sifts an Internet Service Providers transmissions to track suspects' online activity. "As it looks today, it could be completely different a year from now," said FBI spokesman Paul Bresson. "Really, we've only seen the tip of the iceberg in terms of the change in technology." He said improving Carnivore is vital for keeping pace with criminal elements. "This is going to continue to be a cat-and-mouse game," he said. "There's always going to be software and other encryption technology that render a system less useful." He declined to give specific details. But privacy experts say an evolving Carnivore presents a problem for those trying to keep an eye on it. "It's a moving target," said David Banisar, a senior fellow at EPIC. "It means there needs to be continual oversight, not just onetime oversight. It means that if we get the source code we'll have to get the source code as it changes also, and do a re-analysis as the functions of the software change." The program's source code, the piece of information most sought after by activists trying to figure out if Carnivore reads the e-mail of more than just those targeted by a court order, was omitted from the 600-plus pages given to EPIC in the first of several planned releases. But the organization has vowed to continue fighting for it. Despite the incomplete technical blueprint, the newly public papers do shed some light on what sequels to Carnivore might look like. Three jargon-heavy lines of text that survived the FBI censor reveal that Version 2.0 will be capable of "built-in data analysis that Carnivore doesnt appear to do now," Banisar said. That means being able to display captured Internet data as soon as Carnivore intercepts it. The current system merely stores the data and two other programs #151; "Packeteer" and "Coolminer" #151; must be used to process and display it. No information was released from the Version 3.0 section but research mentioned elsewhere in the unclassified papers involves an aspect of the technology dubbed "Dragon Net" that captures telephone conversations held via the Web #151; a process known as "voice over IP" technology. Banisar suspects the FBI might also want its future sniffers to have the ability to track multiple targets simultaneously. That wouldn't bode well, he said. "The more capability it has to intercept more than one target, the more likely it is to be abused." While the current Carnivore is purely monogamous, it casts a wider net than commonly thought, according to an analysis of the FBI documents by anti-computer crime site SecurityFocus.com. Carnivore can "be programmed to watch for all the Internet activities of a particular person," said Kevin Poulson, editorial director at SecurityFocus and a former hacker. The system can even reconstruct Web pages viewed by a suspect. "All thats been talked about is its ability to monitor e-mail." In light of this, said EPICs Banisar: "It makes you wonder what else they could possibly want." = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
Re: [CTRL] IMPORTANT: WARNING FROM ISLAMIC TERRORISTS (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Aleisha Saba wrote: Regardless, if you read this warning from Islamic Terrorists, check the postage - bet comes out of Moscow... Mike Spitzer replied: I had the same initial thoughts, however, when I checked it out, it seems to have originated legitimately... I noted the IP address (195.22.198.8) and ran it through VisualRoute (http://www.visualroute.com): inetnum: 195.22.198.0 - 195.22.198.255 netname: SYRIATEL descr: Syrian Telecommunication Establishment country: SY admin-c: AM7633-RIPE tech-c: AM7633-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: AS6762-MNT changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2124 source: RIPE Tenorlove says: Anyone who DOESN'T believe Putin has a man or 3 in Syria, raise your hand. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] GORE WANTS YOUR GUNS
-Caveat Lector- --- Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - for you see, there is this thing about cowards with big guns and big mouths shooting off both, that I cannot tolerate.. I agree, but there is one closer to home, s/he goes by the name of Janet Reno. Easy to slaughter the innocents - Palestinians armed with stones against Uzzis and missiles? Women and children against 50mm machine guns, Bradleys and CS gas? Call that a fair fight? Yes, if your name is Lon Horiuchi, Richard Rogers, or Jeffrey Jamar, or the other "just regular guys" in the Fellowship of Baby Incinerators. Cui bono? Those who want us to lose our focus and forget that the USA is turning into a jackbooted police state. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DID DR. WEN HO LEE INVENT INTERDIMENSIONAL TRAVEL MACHINE?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nettoilet.com/news/getarticle.shtml?2000/10/02/item6.html InternetTrash News Tuesday, 03-Oct-2000 14:56:23 EDT DID DR. WEN HO LEE INVENT INTERDIMENSIONAL TRAVEL MACHINE? SACRAMENTO, Calif. (Wireless Flash) -- There may be a timely reason why the U.S. government dropped charges against scientist Dr. Wen Ho Lee: He's invented a machine that permits travel into other dimensions. That's the claim of Sacramento-based UFO expert Dr. Richard Boylan, who claims sources at Los Alamos Nuclear Labs told him Dr. Lee was part of a team of scientists that created a "holographic portal" that makes travel through space and other dimensions a reality. Boylan says his sources claim Lee used his inside information on time travel to bargain with the government and avoid several counts of breaching government security. Other Los Alamos physicists reportedly have information similar to Dr. Lee's and are preparing "insurance policies" by hiding sensitive documents just in case they're targeted by government agencies. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] GORE WANTS YOUR GUNS
-Caveat Lector- It indeed looks terrible when armed official Israeli troups fire into Palestinian crowds. Frankly, Palestine is showing extreme restraint in return. It is also outrageous and laughable--in an infuriating way--that in retaliation for the enraged civilian killing of two Israeli soldiers that Israel BOMBED Palestinian targets and killed many Palestinians in the process. One of the main targets of the Israeli missiles was the antennae array and building that broadcast Palestinian news--the Israeli argument was that Arafat had used it to "incite the mob to violence!" A reasonable observer would have thought that having foreign troups machine gun your unarmed civilians--including children-- might have been the MAIN motivator to violent revenge, with no "incitement" required . . . . Jenny Decker - Original Message - From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] GORE WANTS YOUR GUNS -Caveat Lector- Now how does Lieberman and Gore feel about Israelies walking around with little Uzzis terrorizing the neighborhood and slaughtering the innocents in Palestine? When they take the guns away from the Israelies who have been known to turn them on US ships (USS Liberty) and take away their little bombs and napalm fire - perhaps the USA could feel safe - but since I pay to arm the Israelies to the teeth, I feel I have the same right - to arm myself against possible Israelie attack - for you see, there is this thing about cowards with big guns and big mouths shooting off both, that I cannot tolerate.. Easy to slaughter the innocents - Palestinians armed with stones against Uzzis and missiles? Call that a fair fight? A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Wired News : Fear of a Pay-Per-Use World
-Caveat Lector- From Wired News, available online at: http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,39330,00.html Fear of a Pay-Per-Use World by Oscar S. Cisneros 3:00 a.m. Oct. 9, 2000 PDT Critics of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act are asking the librarian of Congress to preserve traditional fair-use and free-speech rights by carving out exceptions to the law. Unless some exceptions are created, they argue, the entertainment industry will have more control than the Constitution allows. One concern is that this could lead to a pay-per-use world where consumers don't truly own the books, movies and music they purchase. Enacted in 1998, the DMCA bans the circumvention of technical protection measures -- like password or encryption systems -- designed to prevent access to copyrighted works. But because Congress feared the potentially adverse effects of giving copyright owners lock-and-key rights to their works, it delayed the effective implementation date of this portion of the DMCA by two years and mandated a study period by the librarian of Congress and the Copyright Office. The two years are up, and on Oct. 28, the librarian of Congress will announce new rules governing the access provisions of the DMCA. The new rules could carve out exceptions to the access provisions for certain classes of copyrighted works. These exceptions would only occur if the librarian of Congress determines that the public's ability to make non-infringing uses of those works has been adversely affected. "The future of fair use and other traditional copyright defenses will be determined, in significant part, by the outcome of the current rule-making," wrote law professor Peter Jaszi, who wrote on behalf of the Digital Future Coalition, an online civil liberties organization composed of nonprofits and Internet companies. "The librarian should exempt from (the DMCA's access provisions) 'works embodied in copies which have been lawfully acquired by users who subsequently seek to make non-infringing uses thereof.'" For instance, a DVD sold in Japan will not play on a DVD player sold in the United States because of technical protection measures employed by the motion picture industry. Under the Digital Future Coalition's proposal, a user could legally bypass the access protections on the DVD. "As it stands, (the DMCA) provides content owners with the legal infrastructure required to implement a ubiquitous system of 'pay-per-use' electronic commerce," Jaszi said. Region controlling is only one example of access control. The motion picture industry could take it a step further and create controls where consumers would be obligated to pay each time they watched a particular copyrighted work. E-book and music publishers could do the same. "Access controls could be employed to prevent consumers from ... viewing the ... products they had purchased," Jaszi said. "Unless, of course, they were willing to pay again and again for the privilege!" Starting on Oct. 28, it will be illegal for consumers to circumvent access-control measures under the DMCA -- unless the librarian of Congress creates an exception. Jaszi's comments came as part of hearings held earlier this year by the U.S. Copyright Office on the DMCA's anti-circumvention provisions. Not everyone thinks society needs exemptions to the access-control provisions. The Motion Picture Association of America and other content producers have filed opposing comments with the Copyright Office. The MPAA argues that it needs access controls to prevent piracy of its copyrighted works. The legal backing of technical protections will lead to more works for consumers to enjoy, wrote Fritz Attaway, senior vice president of government relations for the MPAA. "We believe this impact is likely to be overwhelmingly positive," he wrote. "We do not believe that the users of any class of works are likely to be adversely affected, in their ability to make non-infringing uses of those works, by the coming into force of (the access provisions). "To the contrary, the use of technological measures in general, and of access-control technologies in particular, has already greatly increased the availability of a wide range of copyrighted materials to members of the public." Legal scholars, librarians, free-speech advocates and computer industry groups disagree. While the MPAA talks about the potential for piracy, opponents say the real issue is whether the DMCA will curb uses of lawfully acquired materials traditionally sanctioned by the law. "There is a strong likelihood that the increasing use of persistent access-control technologies will sharply curtail the access privileges that individuals have enjoyed under the fair-use doctrine and other limitations on copyright scope," wrote law professor Julie Cohen in her comments to the Copyright Office. Although fair use is a defense to copyright infringement, fair use is not a defense to the DMCA. Therefore, a person who circumvents an
[CTRL] GULAG AMERIKA.The latest on detention camps w/ maps.
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GULAG AMERIKA.The latest on detention camps w/ maps. Date: Monday, October 09, 2000 12:41 PM APFN WEBMASTER PLEASE ADD THE BELOW LINK TO APFN LINK: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/concentration.htm A HREF="http://www.apfn.org/apfn/concentration.htm"Concentration Camps CA /A I wish to make everyone aware of a brand-new website that has been established to document the growing threat of planned detention facilities throughout the USA and Canada. This site is more than just a "list" of designated sites, but rather a comprehensive clearinghouse for the latest on detention sites, foreign troops in the USA, UN training activities here on US soil, and more. The name of this new website is GULAG AMERIKA, and the name says it all!! Will you choose today to be free or be a slave? Share this URL with all your friends. Photo text submissions readily accepted! http://GulagAmerika.homestead.com/index.html Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CRYSTALS
Per intuitive knowledge (please forgive me for being so unprecise) I know, that crystals are used in communications, like crystals were used in early radio-sets. And some of you may remember the american magazine PLAIN TRUTH, edited and distributed for free by this amazing american individual Herbert Armstrong. The magazine was fundamentally Christian, and Armstrong visited state leaders all overthe planet to deliver the good message of the Lord, Christ, the Holy Ghost,etc. As a gift he always delivered avery large and beautifull crystal. It was so spektakular, that it almost begged to be put at the mantelpiece. So there it stood, and performed its job as a secret communication device enabling aliens in spacecrafts to pick up sound and sight in the prime ministers office. I told this to Steward Swerdlow once, and he confirmed, this is the way it works. Love, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark
Re: [CTRL] Wired News : Fear of a Pay-Per-Use World
-Caveat Lector- Something not mentioned in this article: will the Librarian of Congress have the authority to lock up works based on content as well as copyright? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Rosicrucians
-Caveat Lector- Rosicrucians A subgroup of the Order of Hermes By Anders Sandberg http://www.d.kth.se/~nv91-asa/Mage/roci2.html -- -- Copyright 1994 by Anders Sandberg. Version 2.0. This text mentions lots of things White Wolf has trademarked. -- -- The Rosicrucians are not a tradition, but a camp inside the Order of Hermes. After the failure during the middle ages of the false order, the Order was shaken to its foundations. Many mages simply left to other traditions or founded their own small groups. Many claimed that the failure was due to excessive contact with the mundane world, and retreated into pure study. The Rosicrucians were a more radical camp of the order. They claimed the failure was not due to the contact with mundanes, but due to the fact that they had initiated almost anybody into the false order. This led to the appearance of diabolists, power-hungry or destructive mages. The Rosicrucians wanted to continue to spread the hermetic ideas among the sleepers, but now only to the "worthy", who could handle them. During the period of 1500-1600 the Rosicrucians organized themselves, slowly preparing for their grand plan. They allied themselves with some Ahl-I-Batin sects, and exchanged information with them. To avoid the Technomancers they had invented a trick: to hide in the open. Their idea was to create as many false orders as possible, to confuse and annoy the Technomancers. In 1615 they publicised "Fama Fraternitatis" and "Confessio fraternitatis Roseae Crucis, ad eruditos Europae", two manifestos revealing their existence and some of their powers. They also contained a request to all the learned men in Europe to join them in their quest. Of course this lead to a lot of noise. The Traditions were furious. The technomancers were furious. The learned and not-so-learned men was curious, and wanted to join. Exactly what the Rosicrucians had planned. Soon a lot of people was searching for the elusive Rosicrucians. Learned men was writing their own books about them, subtly pointing out that the author was a very wise man and certainly a prospective member. Some people mistook these books for secret messages from the Rosicrucians themselves, and began to believe that the author was one of them. Others were writing texts condemning rosicrucianism, and after a while there was hundreds of manifestos, books and texts about the Rosicrucians. The Rosicrucians were quiet. Soon there began to start rosicrucian orders all around Europe. Secret societies began to flourish, and the Rosicrucians (the real ones) silently took control over some groups, using them as bases of operations. The Technomancers simply couldn't stop them, because for every genuine order there was hundreds of copycats, and most of them was secret. The Rosicrucian movement evolved. Today they are the secret masters of several Masonic groups and a lot of different secret societies. And they continually start new groups and movements. Using these as a front, they initiate the "worthy" into the secrets. Often they do not make them into full mages, preferring to diffuse their enlightenment into society. The orders are a very useful place to find new candidates for membership. They also try to contact as many powerful and wealthy patrons as possible, to protect themselves and expand the orders even more. The Technomancers are powerless against all these secret groups. They can't eradicate them, since that would be very suspicious, and they contain too many influential people. They instead try to infiltrate them or subverting them in order to stop the Rosicrucians. The Rosicrucians counter by creating even more new groups, and luring the technomancers into traps. Whole groups are faked, just to fool them into doing something stupid. The technomancers try to discredit the groups, hoping to erode their enemies power base. They also start new groups themselves, hoping to lure the Rosicrucians to try to take them over, and then catching the infiltrators. This secret war have been raging among the secret societies for several centuries, and there are no indications of an end. Everyone is tangled up in a web of intrigue, and paranoia is rampant among all involved. The Hermetic Order of The Golden Dawn was one of their most successful fronts. It initiated people in plain sight. Unfortunately it split up because of internal strife (and possible technomancer infiltration). This created a lot of new orders, some which evolved away from the Rosicrucians. Aleister Crowley used methods both from the Rosicrucians and the Cult of Ecstasy (to the Rosicrucians dismay). The splinter groups have influenced a lot of other groups, like wicca, chaos magic and lots and lots of "real" Golden Dawn orders. This has both helped the Rosicrucians, as there are now even more groups to hide in, but the unorthodox
[CTRL] Fwd: Who Killed Biggie Smalls?
Salon Who killed Biggie Smalls? A former LAPD detective charges that the top brass derailed his investigation of the rap star's murder when it pointed to a cop - - - - - - - - - - - - By Jan Golab Oct. 16, 2000 | LOS ANGELES -- It was L.A.'s boldest gangland killing of the decade. On March 9, 1997, Notorious B.I.G. (aka Biggie Smalls, whose legal name was Christopher Wallace) was gunned down while he was leaving a star-studded Vibe magazine party after the Soul Train Music Awards. As hundreds of revelers poured into the streets, Biggie's caravan entourage rolled out of the parking garage of the Petersen Automotive Museum in the mid-Wilshire district. The famed gangsta rapper, a former New Jersey crack dealer, was sitting in the shotgun seat of a green Chevy Suburban. Rap mogul Sean "Puffy" Combs was riding in the vehicle ahead of him. When the cars stopped at a traffic light, a dark Chevy Impala pulled up alongside Biggie's ride. The driver, a black male in a suit and bow tie, rolled down his window and fired seven shots from a blue steel 9mm semi-automatic into the green SUV's front passenger door. Four of the bullets hit their mark. Biggie, 24, was pronounced dead less than an hour later, shortly after he arrived at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. Although there were a dozen witnesses and hundreds of clues, the Biggie killing remains one of L.A.'s most notorious unsolved homicides. Now, a former Los Angeles Police detective charges that the department's failure to solve the case may be tied to an unfolding Rampart scandal coverup. Last month, former LAPD Rampart task force Det. Russell Poole went public with charges that Chief Bernard Parks suppressed a report he had written on corrupt cops at the Rampart Division a full year before the scandal erupted. Poole, who resigned from the department last year after the LAPD brass ignored his complaints, also filed a lawsuit, claiming his career suffered as a result of his attempts to bring the scandal to light. A member of LAPD's Robbery-Homicide Division elite, Poole was one of the first detectives on the special Rampart task force. His work led to the arrest of officer Rafael Perez, the rogue cop whose confessions later triggered the worst scandal in LAPD history. But Poole charges that Chief Parks suppressed his early report on troubles in the Rampart Division, and that Parks and top LAPD brass refused to adequately investigate dirty cops, even when obvious clues pointed to them. That reluctance to get to the bottom of police corruption, Poole says in his lawsuit, hampered his investigation of the Biggie Smalls murder. When he began turning up clues that pointed to involvement by David Mack, an LAPD officer and friend of Perez serving time for an armed bank robbery, he was prevented from aggressively pursuing the investigation. Poole's lawsuit has already made waves in Los Angeles. Days after he filed it, his attorney, Leo Terrell, presented his case at a hearing of the police commission, where he demanded Chief Parks' resignation. Parks issued a statement denying the allegations. Meanwhile, the Los Angeles District Attorney's office, which has been conducting grand jury hearings on Rampart, called Poole in for more interviews. Prosecutors also filed court papers charging that the LAPD had intentionally hindered the criminal case against four officers in the first Rampart trial, which started last week. Echoing charges made by Poole, the court papers stated that LAPD detectives have failed to conduct thorough investigations and failed to turn over vital information to prosecutors, causing the exclusion of at least five prosecution witnesses. And in a development the DA's office insists is unrelated, the head of its Rampart prosecution team, Dan Murphy, resigned from that post, citing health concerns. What may be the biggest new Rampart development, however, is the allegation by a former girlfriend of Rafael Perez that she saw Perez and fellow officer David Mack kill two people in the mid-1990s when a cocaine deal went bad. Sonia Flores, 23, made the allegations in an interview with the Los Angeles Times; last week she traveled to Mexico with an assistant U.S. attorney and FBI agents to show them a dump in Tijuana where she said the pair disposed of the bodies. Sources say federal authorities could seek an indictment against Perez, since the 1999 immunity deal he cut with the DA in exchange for his testimony on the Rampart scandal won't protect him from prosecution if the FBI turns up independent evidence against him. Attorneys for Perez and Mack deny the allegations. Despite what he learned, Poole says in his lawsuit that LAPD higher-ups prevented him from investigating Gaines any further. "I wanted to do a financial investigation on Gaines," says Poole. "You know what the department said? 'No. He's dead. This case is closed.'" His superiors also kept Poole from taking a harder look at David Mack and his friend, Rafael Perez. Like Gaines, Mack and
[CTRL] [Fwd: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: HoffmanWire: Dragon of the Double Standard]
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: HoffmanWire: Dragon of the Double Standard Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2000 15:59:49 -0400 From: Nurev Ind Research [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Nurev Independent Research To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/13/2000 5:19:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The dragon of the double-standard that haunts our dreams in the media monopoly has scorched the commonweal yet again. This past week, the Middle East reports of my old employer, the Associated Press, inspired newspaper headlines across the U.S. which read, "Barak calls on Arafat to Stop the Violence." The operant word in that headline is violence. It is an inaccurate word to use in describing a revolt by colonists against an occupier. An impartial headline would have read, "Barak Calls on Arafat to Stop the Protests." I can't tell you how good it is to read someone else who is trying to decide why this double standard exists. It is not that Palestinians do no harm. It is that Israeli do harm as well, but no one minds. Is it because the Palestinians are Moslem? Are we perhaps still fighting the Crusades? Prudy I just have one question for you. Do you think that the Palestinians really want peace? Or do you think that the Palestinians really want to get rid of the Jews and take back the real estate? A simple question. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Oh,oh! Cristiane Amanpour is in Jerusalem. You KNOWthere's...
-Caveat Lector- "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/14/2000 11:59:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know what kind of demented pictures you have of the Israelis, but you can bet your ass that if they wanted the Palestinians dead, they would be. Try to keep it real. The following is as real as it gets. The Israeli are not angels. They are human beings. They do bad things and good things. The things outlined below are bad. This material comes from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mario Profaca) And yes, Palestinians are also human and do bad things and good things. Nuff said. Prudy In the past two days, Israeli settlers have been on the rampage. Armed, protected and supported by Israeli troops, the Israeli settlers have killed five Palestinian civilians in the past twenty-four hours; three killed in the occupied Palestinian territory and two in the city of Nazareth in Israel. This is the behavior of religious fanatics. Must have learned it from Jihadists. Around one thousand Israeli extremist settlers from Natzrat Elite (Higher Nazareth), supported by the Israeli police, attacked East Nazareth; they broke into the homes of the Palestinian residents, and fired at Palestinian civilians killing Omar Ikawi, 42, and Wisam Yazbik, 26, and wounding thirty people, five of them critically. The deaths of Ikawi and Yazbik raise the death toll of Palestinians within the Green Line, (in Israel) to 13. In the occupied Palestinian territory, Israeli settlers have killed three Palestinians. Israeli settlers murdered Fahid Abu Baker, 23, from Bedia, Salfeet, in the occupied territories, on October 7, 2000. Settlers burned the body of Sayil Swaidan, 25, from Azoon, Qalqilia who disappeared during a settlers' attack on the Palestinian town. Farmers found the corpse of Swaidan in an olive feild. Swaidan had been shot in the back of his head, but it is not clear whether this was the cause of death. The body of Isam Hamad, 36, from Um Safa, Ramallah, was found in a field near his village. An eyewitness stated that he saw Hamad driving to his farm when an Israeli military vehicle stopped and took him away. Hamad was found dead today (October 9, 2000) in the morning near Pisgot settlement. Isam Hamad had been tortured to death. There is evidence that he was electrocuted, burned with a hot iron, and attacked with an axe. Law has asked a medical examiner to prepare a full report. Sorry don't buy this one. The witnesses are suspect, and the story sounds like bullshit. Israeli torture techniques are more sophisticated than this, and why would they torture a farmer? What could a farmer know that he would allow himself to be tortured for. But you'll buy anything won't you? For the past couple of days settlers attacked Palestinian citizens and their property and their homes. They used firearms in their attacks while the occupation army turned a blind eye to their aggressive acts. They attacked the Old City of Jerusalem and some parts of Shufat, Hizma, Shufat refugees' camp, Anata, Al Isawiyi, Al Ram, Dahiyit Al Bareed, and Harit Al Aqbat as well as Hebron and the main road junctions. This often occurred in sight of the Israeli army. This is what happens when violent chaos reigns. Everyone who wants to, tries to get their licks in. I have no intention of defending religious lunatics. I would like nothing better than to lock them all in a large room with automatic weapons and lots of ammunition. Then the Jihadists, and the Jewish Millenialists could solve the religious issues in the Mid-East in a brief period of time and go home to Allah, and YHVH respectively. Look. There is no shortage of nasty behavior on both sides. The point is that if the Palestinians think they can use violence against the Israelis as they have for fifty two years, they will lose. What is happening here is a PR tactic by Arafat to produce martyrs. No problem. The Israelis will give him plenty of martyrs. Then the settlers will push forth their racist agenda and use the chaos as an opportunity to get rid of local Palestinians. This makes the Palestinians suckers for keeping Arafat and the PNA as their leadership. In human evolution, stupidity leads to extinction. But the REAL TRUTH here is that the Palestinians love the opportunity to express their feelings in the form of killing Jews. When given the opportunity, they jump in with both feet. While the government of Israel is restricted by politics from simply wiping them out. That is why the IDF has ONLY killed about 100 Palestinians and reminded them with helicopter strikes that they are in no fucking position to be going ape shit. If war breaks out because of Arafat's uprising, ALL BETS ARE OFF and the IDF will do what all armies do. Kill the enemy. This is not a scenario I want to see happen. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ==
Re: [CTRL] 'Poof' goes the Liberals' bubble.
-Caveat Lector- "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/14/2000 10:57:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JERUSALEM, Oct 12 (IPS) -The killing of two Israeli soldiers in Ramallah Thursday by a mob of Palestinians, and Israel's attack on Palestinian Authority targets in the West Bank town, is accentuating the crisis gripping the beleaguered Israeli peace camp as Israeli-Palestinian fighting escalates. Hours after the killings, black smoke was billowing from central Ramallah after Israeli helicopters attacked in a major escalation that recalled Israel's tactics during its 1982 invasion of Lebanon. What bubble? There has not been any kind of peace process or whatever you call it since the days of Ralph Bunch. This is not a peace process, but a pacification and neutralization of the Palestinian problem by the NWO and as usual, it is a failure. It doesn't matter whether they are in the process of killing each other or not; there is not nor ever will be peace between the Israeli and the Palestinians. Prudy (Liberal) There could be. But the Palestinians would have to move 20 miles east. Then they would have a real state with a real army with a real economy with a real infrastructure, and then let's see how willing they would be to lose it all in a war with Israel. But evidently they like playing get the Jews better. By the way, 'Poof' goes the Liberals' bubble.- was intended for Jewish Liberals. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Palestinian ambulances being used to transport bombs and ammunition
-Caveat Lector- Israel Radio: Palestinian ambulances being used to transport bombs and ammunition Aaron Lerner Date: 4 October, 2000 Israel Radio Correspondent Nissim Keinan reported this evening from Netzarim Junction in the Gaza Strip that today he observed himself a Palestinian ambulance parked next to Netzarim Junction unloading crates of ammunition and fire bombs. He observed some of the bombs thrown. Keinan noted that the Palestinians are exploiting standing orders in the Israeli Army not to shoot at ambulances. Dr. Aaron Lerner, Director IMRA (Independent Media Review Analysis) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israeli polls - 10-16-00
-Caveat Lector- Smith Poll - October 11 2000 for The Jerusalem Post Aaron Lerner Date: 16 October, 2000 The following are the results of a Smith Institute Poll of a representative sample of 501 adult Israelis carried out on October 11 for The Jerusalem Post. Is it possible to reach a full peace agreement with the Palestinians? Total: Yes 32% No 61% Do not know 7% Jews: Yes 27% No 66% Do not know 7% Has the Oslo process succeeded or failed? Total: Succeeded 15% Failed 79% Do not know 6% Jews: Succeeded 14% Failed 81% Do not know 5% If a deal is reached based on the understandings reached at Camp David would you voted for or against it in a referendum? Total: For 39% Against 44% No opinion 17% Jews: For 35% Against 48% No opinion 17% To what degree are you satisfied with Prime Minister Ehud Barak's performance? Total: Satisfied 26% Not satisfied 73% No opinion 1% Jews: Satisfied 26% Not satisfied 73% No opinion 1% What should Prime Minister Ehud Barak do now? Total: Resign 14% Declare elections and run again 16% Set up a National Unity government and continue as PM 56% No opinion 14% Jews: Resign 14% Declare elections and run again 15% Set up a National Unity government and continue as PM 58% No opinion 12% If elections were held today between Ehud Barak and Binyamin Netanyahu whom would you vote for? Total: Barak 30% Netanyahu 43% Won't vote 11% No opinion 16% (Separate result for Jews not shown for this question) Dr. Aaron Lerner, Director IMRA (Independent Media Review Analysis) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Palestinian ambulances being used to transport bombs and ammunition
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/16/00 4:17:00 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Israel Radio: Palestinian ambulances being used to transport bombs and ammunition Aaron Lerner Date: 4 October, 2000 Israel Radio Correspondent Nissim Keinan reported this evening from Netzarim Junction in the Gaza Strip that today he observed himself a Palestinian ambulance parked next to Netzarim Junction unloading crates of ammunition and fire bombs. He observed some of the bombs thrown. Keinan noted that the Palestinians are exploiting standing orders in the Israeli Army not to shoot at ambulances. Dr. Aaron Lerner, Director IMRA (Independent Media Review Analysis) Sounds like propaganda to me... Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] RadTimes # 71
-Caveat Lector- RadTimes # 71 - October, 2000 An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities. "We're living in rad times!" --- QUOTE: "... the establishment can't admit [that] it is human rights violations that make ... countries attractive to business -- so history has to be fudged, including denial of our support of regimes of terror and the practices that provide favorable climates of investment, and our destabilization of democracies that [don't] meet [the] standard of service to the transnational corporation..." --Edward Herman, economist and media analyst --- Contents: --- --Radio Wars --A World Banker's Account of Prague --Anarchists Still Held in Prague --Hunters and the Hunted at US-Mexico Border --Seoul braces for protests at Asia-Europe summit Linked stories: *U.S. elections need international observers *Hacker targets Antiwar.com *Congress passes bill to punish those who leak classified information *USDOJ anoounces $38.9 million grant for COPS program *Chicago to Sue Vote Auctioneers *Drug Use Booming Among High-Tech Workers --- Begin stories: --- Radio Wars [This article was supposed to run in the Illinois Times, but got scratched at the last minute.] RADIO WARS: The United States of America Versus Mbanna Kantako by Sheila Nopper A preliminary injunction was issued to Mbanna Kantako at a Federal Court hearing on October 4th ordering him to "cease and desist" the micropower station, Human Rights Radio; whether a permanent injunction will be granted will depend on it being proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the source of the interference with air traffic communications at the Springfield Airport between September 22-25 was attributable to Kantako's 106.5 FM broadcasts. So far, no date has been set for the upcoming trial. Yet related issues that were raised--and absent---during the court proceedings, reveal certain ambiguities and irregularities about the case. Williford Gray, an electronics engineer from the FCC's Chicago office, testified that he had issued Kantako orders to stop broadcasting on several occasions during the 12 years that Human Rights Radio has been on the air. No planes have ever fallen out of the sky during that time. However, the FCC alleges that they monitored four days of potentially dangerous interference beginning this year on September 22 during which time Human Rights Radio was deemed by Gray to pose a "safety of life issue" that required an "immediate response." This latest FCC action came exactly one week after the FCC announced the names of Springfield area applicants for legalized Low Power FM licenses. In building her case, prosecuting attorney, Elizabeth Collins, used the FCC proposal for legalized LPFM to attempt to discredit Kantako's right to communicate via his radio station. Yet Kantako himself would not qualify for such a license given the lack of amnesty provisions for formerly illegal broadcasters in the FCC rules even if he wanted to, which he emphatically does not. Kantako, who is blind, said he "does not recognize the authority of the FCC or the authority of the United States government." He described himself as "an African P.O.W." with the "human responsibility to share information with my people and to defend ourselves against genocide." Ironically, it was Mbanna Kantako, who pioneered the micropower radio movement on whose coattails current LPFM applicants have ridden. Having grown into a nationwide grassroots civil disobedience campaign against corporate control of the airwaves, micropower broadcasting is arguably the catalyst which forced the FCC to develop the LPFM initiative in the first place in order to re-establish their regulatory control of the airwaves and, in so doing, create a Trojan Horse to divide the movement. Nevertheless, because of his prominence in the movement, Kantako's case sparked a successful international email campaign on his behalf aimed at getting the State Journal Register (SJR) to cover the story. The campaign was orchestrated by the IndyMediaCenter (a global network of activists who utilize media production and distribution as tools for promoting social and economic justice), which originated with the Seattle protests against the WTO in 1999. The SJR finally did publish a story on Kantako's case the morning of his court hearing---five days after the multi-jurisdictional police raid of his station led by Federal Marshals who surrounded his home and confiscated his transmitter, broadcast
[CTRL] Yellow Corn
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I would like to belive that yellow corn is ok.
I am getting a strange reaction to certain yellow corn.
It would be nice to know that the yellow corn was not bioenginerred and
unapproved. But hey, who really cares? Not the Republicans, or even the
Democrats. So who really cares? Does Ralph Nader? No?
Then who? Who cares about you? Nobody. That is the answer.
Really. Even god is absent. Who really cares about YOU?!!
The answer: NOBODY!!!
Really.
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UNDERNEWS Oct 16, 2000 THE PROGRESSIVE REVIEW Washington's most unofficial source Editor: Sam Smith 1312 18th St. NW #502, Washington DC 20036 202-835-0770 Fax: 835-0779 E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB SITE: http://prorev.com - WORD Eating through a text, leaf and branch, like tent caterpillars, leaving everywhere their mark -- Renata Adler's description of editors THE MEDIACRACY YOU MAY RECALL THE SAD PLIGHT of Sarasota High School, described by Al Gore as the place where a student had to stand in class for lack of a desk. That turned out to be a bit of an exaggeration, but not too many days later the NY Times went in for some re-revisionism, describing the place as have a "legitimate overcrowding problem in a system facing budget problems." Now the Wall Street Journal has checked the place out and reports on its web site that the school actually has a media center including a TV studio, as well as a football stadium with an air conditioned press box seating 60-70, and plans for an Olympic size swimming pool. Our recommendation is that syrupy sagas of suspicious specificity be banned during campaigns along with soft money. http://opinionjournal.com SMARTER TIMES notes that NY Times, which has been editorializing against Bush's tax breaks favoring the rich, is simultaneously seeking a tax break for its new headquarters at Times Square. http://www.smartertimes.com PALESTINE DR. MUSTAFA BARGHOUTHI, UNION OF PALESTINIAN MEDICAL RELIEF COMMITTEES: The West Bank and Gaza Strip is under complete siege. Every village and town has been cut off, making travel between regions impossible. The Gaza airport has been closed, and Palestinians are not allowed to leave the country via land borders or Tel Aviv airport. Palestinians have become virtual prisoners in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The closure has gravely impacted health service delivery to Palestinians. Patients with serious injuries requiring referral to Jordan, Saudi Arabia, or Egypt for specialized care are unable to be transported. Medical teams are facing incredible difficulties reaching sick patients. Doctors cannot access clinics and patients in rural areas cannot access city hospitals. MIDDLE EAST REALITIES: Egypt is essentially a police and military state with the veneer of civilian government and the facade of democracy. The president, a former air force general, is kept in power through the help of a vast intelligence apparatus and the American CIA. The "parliament" is not real by the standards of what is usually understood as democracy and the press is not "independent" or "free" as those words are usually applied. Ever since the days of the original Camp David where Anwar Sadat was badly mislead by then President Jimmy Carter, the Egyptians have craved their yearly handout of American billions. Sadat was soon assassinated at a military parade by his own soldiers. Since then Egypt has been under a form of emergency rule justifying not only the relentless repression of all opposition but censorship of the press and corruption in high places. HTTP://www.MiddleEast.Org JUST POLITICS PUBLIC INTEGRITY: There are 1,972 insurance companies or associations that lobby state legislatures -- one lobbying interest for every three state lawmakers. states with most insurance lobbyists: Texas: 185, Florida: 87, Michigan: 83, California: 82, New York: 80, Illinois: 76, New Jersey: 74, Massachusetts: 64, Missouri: 63 Arkansas: 55. Top companies with state insurance lobbyists: State Farm Insurance Companies: 48 states, Blue Cross Blue Shield: 47 states, Aflac: 43 states, Variable Life Insurance Company: 41 states, American Council of Life Insurers/Insurance: 36 states, Golden Rule Insurance Company: 31 states, Allstate Insurance Company: 30 states, Prudential Insurance Company of America: 27 states, Cigna Corporation: 26 states, Delta Dental: 25 states. http://www.public-i.org/50states_01_101100.htm. KELLY PATRICIA O'MEARA, INSIGHT: Billions of dollars are missing from the US Department of Housing and Urban Development's books. Some HUD officials blame computer glitches; others allege widespread graft. HUD has earned a failing grade from the House Government Reform subcommittee on Government Management for the way the agency manages taxpayers' money. Subcommittee chairman Stephen Horn, R-Calif., is said to be furious that HUD's most recent financial report shows the agency is unable to balance its checkbook and cannot account for $59 billion. http://www.insightmag.com/archive/200011065.shtml CAMILLE PAGLIA, SALON: There is no such thing as a wasted vote. The only wasted vote is the one not cast. Every vote is an expression of principle and an exercise in free speech. Too many Democrats are bowing to peer pressure from friends and associates and suppressing their revulsion from the gross ethical lapses of the Clinton-Gore administration. This kind of capitulation to the tyranny of the
Re: [CTRL] Australian inhabitants
-Caveat Lector- Well at least you got that right. Most of history's conflicts were about shifting populations. With the exception of Australia's Aboriginals, no group is sitting on real estate that wasn't someone else's NOT EVEN THE AMERICAN INDIANS Well, there are signs of previous peoples on the Australian continent (particularly the Bradford art people), either before or coexisting with the Aborigines (depending who'se dates you accept). However it's a big place and given the rough conditions there probably weren't large populations, so it wasn't much of an issue. that when the years ag tall and abov out, thinking they would consume all the available food. than their own. previous inhabitants. all can get along one da regards Duncan M. Roads Editor, NEXUS Magazine PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381 http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259 "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end." (Aldous Huxley) A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Peace Based on Surrender - Two Palestinian Articles
-Caveat Lector- Aleisha Saba wrote: Barak is using Putin KGB tactics in not permitting Paletinians medical treatment. Chechnya - Putin warned he would make public examples and as it was, the "iniquities of the fathers were visited upon the children"a little 14 year old boy had his legs amputated because Russians refused medical treatment, and gangrene set in - they did then accommodate the parents by amputating the child's legs.then the picture of the mother and child was placed in the Russian papers and in Chechnya as a example - the one Putin declared would be set. It is my belief that Barak is KGB serving two masters - This is why you are a ditzy twit. J2 a plant...and true biblical OT style, the iniquities of the fathers is being visited upon the children..Elridge Cleaver, a phoney baloney psuedo intellectual who is alleged to have written Soul on Ice - loved to quote this line. Ashke-nazi Jew - Barak plays the role well, this phoney jew in sheeps clothing. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: HoffmanWire: Dragon of the Double Standard]
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/16/2000 5:13:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just have one question for you. Do you think that the Palestinians really want peace? Or do you think that the Palestinians really want to get rid of the Jews and take back the real estate? No the Palestinians really don't want peace. They want the Jews to get out so they can have their land back. and the Israeli don't want peace either. They want the Palestinians to shut up and disappear. All this talk of peace is and has been ridiculous. A really good, all-out war, is much more likely, and perhaps even for the best. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Palestinian ambulances being used to transport bombs and ammunition
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/16/2000 5:17:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Israel Radio Correspondent Nissim Keinan reported this evening from Netzarim Junction in the Gaza Strip that today he observed himself a Palestinian ambulance parked next to Netzarim Junction unloading crates of ammunition and fire bombs. He observed some of the bombs thrown. Keinan noted that the Palestinians are exploiting standing orders in the Israeli Army not to shoot at ambulances. Wouldn't it be easier to stop the ambulances (they should not be armed), and verify whether or not there are wounded in side. If this guy can get close enough to see what's inside, it should be easy to tell them to stop for a check. Prudy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] REU: Russia's Chernomyrdin Threatens to Sue Bush
-Caveat Lector- Monday October 16 2:29 PM ET Russia's Chernomyrdin Threatens to Sue Bush MOSCOW (Reuters) - Former Russian Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin demanded a formal apology Monday from U.S. Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush for accusing him of stealing IMF money, and threatened to sue. Bush, who in last week's campaign debate attacked Vice-President Al Gore over the Democratic administration's ties with Russia, said some money lent to Russia by the International Monetary Fund had ``ended up in Viktor Chernomyrdin's pockets.'' ``Such statements are not only damaging but they are also dangerous to the public,'' Chernomyrdin told a news conference. ''That is why I insist on a public apology. I am sure you (Bush) will present it immediately,'' he said. ``Otherwise I will have to defend my honor in court.'' Chernomyrdin, who has called Bush an irresponsible politician, said the governor was well aware his remarks were also liable to affect Washington's relations with Moscow. ``He knows that for the sake of his ambitions he is putting at risk future relations between the United States and Russia, two nuclear superpowers with a special responsibility for world security,'' he said. The IMF lent money to Russia throughout the 1990s, but most accusations that some IMF money may have been stolen have surrounded $4.8 billion in loans made in the summer of 1998, several months after Chernomyrdin was sacked as premier. The IMF has repeatedly denied that any of the money it lent to Moscow was misappropriated by the Russians, though officials are still investigating whether some of the money was siphoned off via Swiss banks accounts. Chief IMF spokesman Tom Dawson has said he was not aware of any evidence to support Bush's allegation against Chernomyrdin. But some U.S. Republicans and other critics have suggested that since it is difficult to trace money once it reaches Russia the IMF should have been more vigilant about corruption generally, even if IMF money was not specifically diverted. The Bush campaign has stood by the Texas governor's statements, saying Chernomyrdin, a former head of natural gas monopoly Gazprom, ``made a fortune in personal profits'' in the Russian oil and gas business while in the cabinet. A spokesman for Bush has said the industry has benefited greatly from foreign aid, including aid from the IMF. Chernomyrdin has denied having made a fortune out of his connections with Gazprom. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rue: Yemen Says Has Evidence Ship Blast Planned
-Caveat Lector- Monday, Oct. 16, 2000 Yemen Says Has Evidence Ship Blast Planned ADEN (Reuters) - Yemen said on Monday it had evidence the blast that crippled a U.S. Navy warship killing 17 American sailors in the southern Yemeni port of Aden was a "planned criminal act." President Ali Abdullah Saleh told General Tommy Franks, the commander-in-chief of U.S. Central Command, that "preliminary results and important evidence reached by security forces in Yemen...indicate that it was a planned criminal act," the official Saba news agency reported. Saleh had initially said Thursday's blast was not a deliberate act, while U.S. officials said it was an apparent suicide attack. Saba did not say if the president briefed Franks, who later visited the ship, on the reported evidence. But U.S. officials said both sides have been working closely together. Rear Admiral Mark Fitzgerald said Yemen's support for the salvage and investigation operation "has remained outstanding and we're very happy with that." U.S. officials said work, including repairing leaks and restoring power, was continuing on the warship, anchored in port with a gaping hole clearly visible in its side. RETRIEVING BODIES U.S. Navy divers have been trying to retrieve more bodies from the tangled wreck, but none of the missing victims had been recovered by Monday evening. "They were primarily today doing survey. They did some repair work and were searching, but did not recover any bodies," Fitzgerald said of the divers. "It's a slow process." Five bodies of sailors have already been retrieved, while two are in view in the wreckage but so far out of reach, officials said. Ten sailors are missing and presumed dead. U.S. Navy officials have said a small boat in a group helping to moor the Cole for refuelling was laden with explosives and blew up alongside the ship, one of the world's most sophisticated guided missile destroyers. Witnesses described two men aboard the boat as standing to attention just before it exploded. A Yemeni official earlier said the authorities had arrested dozens of suspects for questioning in connection with the incident. NOT CLEAR WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE Defense Secretary William Cohen said on Sunday there was little doubt the incident was a "terrorist" attack, but said the United States was no closer to determining who carried it out. He said Osama bin Laden, the Saudi exile wanted by the United States for allegedly masterminding the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in East Africa, was among those being investigated. At least two Muslim groups have said they were responsible. Cohen said investigators took all claims seriously, but it was "premature to speculate." The United States has sent about 100 personnel to Yemen to conduct the investigation and salvage operation, codenamed Determined Response. They include Federal Bureau of Investigation agents and a marine security platoon. A U.S. defense official said talks were under way with a Norwegian firm to transport the 9,100-tonwarship back to the United States for repairs aboard a heavy-lift vessel, which has capacity to carry a 30,000-tonship. He said the operation could go ahead in a week to 10 days. Officials have said a patch-up job to sail the ship back was unlikely because the bomb, which had power akin to a sea- skimming missile, ripped a 30-by-40 foot (nine-by-12 meter) hole along the waterline and buckled the decks. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To
[CTRL] California Supreme Court validates search warrant with wrong address
-Caveat Lector- California Supreme Court validates search warrant with wrong address By DAVID KRAVETS Associated Press Writer SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The California Supreme Court delved into the sensitive area of police search-and-seizure law Monday, validating a warrant with the wrong address. Still, the unanimous decision did not break new ground in search- and-seizure law. Instead, the ruling reinstated the conviction of a Los Angeles County man in which authorities found drugs, weapons and bogus phone-access cards in his Santa Fe Springs residence. The high court said although the warrant's address was false, authorities searched the correct house in 1997. California and federal courts have upheld warrants that provided wrong addresses and faulty descriptions of houses subject to a search. Defense attorneys argued it was an illegal search because the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department searched a house not authorized by a warrant, in violation of the U.S. Constitution's Fourth Amendment. Defendant Luis Amador's attorneys claimed that a neighbor's house may have been the residence to be searched and that authorities illegally stumbled on his small amount of methamphetamine for sale, a loaded firearm and hundreds of counterfeited telephone access cards. The state Supreme Court held Monday that, despite the address error and an erroneous description of the residence, the officer who applied for and executed the warrant had previously viewed the house from the outside with an informant. And there were no other residences with the faulty address, the court noted. "The warrant and the officer's knowledge together leave no doubt that the magistrate found probable cause to search one particular house to the exclusion of all others, i.e., the house actually searched," Justice Ming W. Chin wrote for the court. Magistrates or judges issue warrants at the request of law enforcement authorities. An appeals court threw out Amador's conviction after concluding the search was reckless. In reinstating the conviction, the high court said that, to exclude evidence seized with a defective warrant, police conduct first must be examined. That is to avoid so-called "exploratory searches," which result when warrants do not clearly state a purpose or provide false information. But in this case, the court found, authorities' conduct was not in dispute. The court said that "complete precision" in describing a residence to be searched is not required. When warrants contain inaccurate descriptions, for example, they can be thrown out if they lead or could lead to the wrong house being searched, Chin wrote. "We find the executing officer was easily able to locate and identify the specified premises and there was little probability that another premise would be mistakenly searched," Chin wrote. ### A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. -- Daniel Webster A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ehud Barak Paid Hit Man????
-Caveat Lector- A Commanding Presence: Ehud Barak Well Ehud Barak is an assassin as this story portrays him for what he is - a reproduction of Ehud in Judges in the bible whose sneak attack against Eglon, resulted in a dagger being struck into his stomach - a present from God, said Ehud. This story is very interesting- Barak, charter member of the Elitist Group called Ashkenazi Jews who are of European descent and Zionist - whom Prince Faisal of Saudi Arabia warned were the real trouble makers in the holy land who would not let the domestic real jews and arabs, both semites, live in peace ..then, the father of the young Prince was murdered and the brother placed upon the Saudi throne - today Osama bin Laden tries to restore rightful heir to throne which was at that time Prince Turki Faisal. So this Ehud Barak fits the description of - beware of those who say they are jews and are not..Ashkenazi Jewthere is also a Kenaz mentioned in Judges associated with murder of the King as I recallmy my the story is so similar, and even some of the names in over 2,000 years, have not changed a bit have they - but then Gideon and his 300 - well they took the golden earrings of their prey - who were the Ishmalites but they never got that oil, did they. This is interesting story of who and what Ehud the Assassin really is - this man who dressed like a woman, and crossed a border line and murdered 3 PLO leaders in Beruit..none dare call this murder? Barak was a heartbeat away from Rabin? Saba MAN IN THE NEWS A Commanding Presence: Ehud Barak (New York Times, May 18, 1999) By WILLIAM A. ORME Jr. JERUSALEM -- The man who was elected prime minister of Israel on Monday is accustomed to being in command: Ehud Barak, 57, left the military just four years ago, after a beribboned 36-year career as platoon leader, tank-battalion chief, senior intelligence analyst and, from 1991 to 1995, head of the Israeli Army general staff. In a breathtakingly rapid political ascent, the freshly retired lieutenant general was appointed interior minister in the Labor government led by Yitzhak Rabin. After Rabin's assassination in 1995, Barak became foreign minister under Shimon Peres. In 1997, with the dust barely brushed off his epaulets, he seized control of the Labor Party in the aftermath of Peres' loss to Benjamin Netanyahu in 1996. As his television advertisements relentlessly reminded Israeli voters, Barak is the most decorated soldier in the country's history. The late Rabin, another general-turned-politician, was said to have remarked long ago that if Barak did not one day become chief of staff, "there is something wrong with the system." His most celebrated military exploit -- the 1972 storming of a Sabena airliner hijacked by Palestinian guerrillas at Tel Aviv's airport -- is seen in retrospect as a classic Barak operation in its meticulous planning and precise execution. All 97 hostages were freed. The elite antiterror unit he commanded, the Sayeret Matkal, included Netanyahu. ^^^ Burnishing his reputation, Barak crossed into Lebanon a year later disguised as a woman on a mission in which three leaders of the Palestine Liberation Organization were assassinated in their Beirut hideout. ^^^ But like many career military officers, Barak is not a man of bravado, associates say, but of "extraordinary caution," methodically assessing input from many sources before making irrevocable decisions. He approached the election campaign not like a former commando, they say, but like the Stanford-trained systems analyst that he also is. Stung by Labor's one-point defeat in 1996, when he served as campaign manager, Barak attributed the loss not to Netanyahu's hard-line nationalism or television skills, but to Labor's strategic mistakes and organizational oversights. As the Labor Party leader, Barak rebuilt a grass-roots get-out-the-vote machine, while recruiting high-priced American pollsters and media consultants. Barak graduated with a degree in physics and mathematics from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem in 1968, and received a master's in economic engineering systems from Stanford University a decade later. But as a schoolchild, his former classmates report, he was considered a bit dreamy, renowned more for his skill as a lockpicker than for his academic prowess. A charter member of Israel's Ashkenazi elite, Barak is the child of Zionist pioneers. He was born in Feb. 12, 1942, in a kibbutz his immigrant parents helped found in the remote Heffer valley, near the Lebanese border. The family drama was typical of early Zionist settlers: His father and uncle, after witnessing their parents' killing by Cossacks in Lithuania, had fled to what was then British-run Palestine as teen-agers, with little money and no local family or friends, hoping to build a new life and a new Jewish nation. Barak first met his wife, Nava, a teacher, while both were serving in the Army. They
[CTRL] Helen Chenowith-Hage: A Must Read Speech
-Caveat Lector- .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed] Note: We store 100's of related "conspiracy posts" at: http://www.msen.com/~lloyd/oldprojects/recentmail.html From: "Lloyd Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Helen Chenowith-Hage: A Must Read Speech Date: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 7:49 PM http://www.sierratimes.com/arhch101100.htm The Four Cornerstones Of My Season In The Congress (House of Representatives - October 06, 2000) [Page: H9456] Speech by Helen Chenoweth-Hage - Posted: 10.11.00 The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Smith of Michigan). Under the Speaker's announced policy of January 6, 1999, the gentlewoman from Idaho (Mrs. Chenoweth-Hage) is recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the majority leader. Mrs. CHENOWETH-HAGE. Mr. Speaker, I rise on this occasion to give a very special sort of address. I am not here today to talk about a specific piece of legislation or to discuss any one thing in particular that the administration is doing or failing to do, but my message here today is both personal in nature and something that I hope that my colleagues and future Members of this great body will find useful in times to come. Mr. Speaker, I am here to talk about the experience that one very average American citizen has had over the course of the past 6 years in being a part of what has been termed the greatest deliberative body on earth: The United States Congress. And although people call me Congressman, or sometimes Congresswoman, I am very much simply an average American citizen, an American citizen who took leave from her ordinary, average American life to serve for a time as an advocate for over half a million people in a State 2,000 miles away. And that can only happen in America. Now, after serving here for 3 terms, I am fulfilling a pledge that I made in 1994, and I am leaving this body of my own will, returning to a life of an average American citizen to live under the laws that I hope that we have made a little bit better here. I want to share with my colleagues and for the record some of my observations about this great government of ours, the daunting responsibilities we hold here, and my hope for the future. So I want to talk about several things. I want to discuss the purpose of this mighty Congress and what its proper role is in the lives of ordinary Americans. I want to discuss how certain matters become very real and very practical matters in our everyday life, matters that may have at one time been theory but have become reality. And I want to raise some real questions and concerns about the future. First, however, I would like to say a few words about some of the people who have worked for me and assisted me over the years. I feel that I have an extraordinary staff. I have been blessed, not through my own skill but I think it was just a blessing, that I was able to pull together a staff that I think are unusually brilliant and unusually fine Americans and who, within themselves individually, the flame for liberty and freedom beat within their hearts and, therefore, we were able to accomplish much together, this Chenoweth team. My staff consisted of: Lois Anderson, Judy Boyle, Chris Caron, Doug Crandall, Georgia Golling, Ann Heissenbuttel, Chad Hyslop, Dave Kroeger, Dean Lester, Lisa Lovell, Matt Miller, Linda Mullin, Nathan Olsen, Karen Roetter, Keith Rupp, Valerie Schatz, Elizabeth Schwarzer, Tereasa Sinigiani, and Rhonda Tilden. And to all of them I just want to say thanks so much for the wonderful job. There is a great deal of personal affection and admiration that I hold for my office staff, and there is among all of us the thing that has always bound us together and given purpose to our days here on Capitol Hill, which has been our shared commitment to a vision, a vision of our Nation and our government here in America. Let me tell my colleagues a little bit about that vision. My vision as a Congressman for the first district of Idaho has been that America would continue to be a land where people live in peace with one another; that they respect each other's individual rights and property; and that people are free to advance as far as their individual talents and commitments to work hard will take them. I believe that the rights of the people are not derived from government but, rather, the inalienable rights of the people to life, liberty, property and the pursuit of happiness are God-given rights that existed prior to the formation of any government. It is because these rights exist that governments are created by the people to help protect these rights that are God given. My vision is for a government that is keenly aware of this relationship between the governed and the governors, and which views its primary role as a protector of people's rights as opposed to a protector of people's persons or what they may think, and which
[CTRL] AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON BY JUANITA BROADDRICK 'DO YOU REMEMBER?' SUNDAY OCT 15, 2000 DRUDGE REPORT EXCLUSIVE As I watched Rick Lazio's interview on Fox News this morning, I felt compelled to write this open letter to you, Mrs. Clinton. Brit Hume asked Mr. Lazio's views regarding you as a person and how he perceived you as a candidate. Rick Lazio did not answer the question, but I know that I can. You know it, too. I have no doubt that you are the same conniving, self-serving person you were twenty-two years ago when I had the misfortune to meet you. When I see you on television, campaigning for the New York senate race, I can see the same hypocrisy in your face that you displayed to me one evening in 1978. You have not changed. I remember it as though it was yesterday. I only wish that it were yesterday and maybe there would still be time to do something about what your husband, Bill Clinton, did to me. There was a political rally for Mr. Clinton's bid for governor of Arkansas. I had obligated myself to be at this rally prior to my being assaulted by your husband in April, 1978. I had made up my mind to make an appearance and then leave as soon as the two of you arrived. This was a big mistake, but I was still in a state of shock and denial. You had questioned the gentleman who drove you and Mr. Clinton from the airport. You asked him about me and if I would be at the gathering. Do you remember? You told the driver, "Bill has talked so much about Juanita", and that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no time. As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip and I said nothing and left the gathering. What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question. Yes, I can answer Brit Hume's question. You are the same Hillary that you were twenty years ago. You are cold, calculating and self-serving. You cannot tolerate the thought that you will soon be without the power you have wielded for the last eight years. Your effort to stay in power will be at the expense of the state of New York. I only hope the voters of New York will wake up in time and realize that Hillary Clinton is not an honorable or an honest person. I will end by asking if you believe the statements I made on NBC Dateline when Lisa Myers asked if I had been assaulted and raped by your husband? Or perhaps, you are like Vice-President Gore and did not see the interview. Juanita Broaddrick Arkansas *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! ** *** A vote for Bush or Gore is a vote to continue Clinton policies! A vote for Buchanan is a vote to continue America! Therefore a vote for Gore or Bush is a wasted vote for America! Don't waste your vote! Vote for Patrick Buchanan! Today, candor compels us to admit that our vaunted two-party system is a snare and a delusion, a fraud upon the nation. Our two parties have become nothing but two wings of the same bird of prey... Patrick Buchanan A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Gore All Confused?
-Caveat Lector- FYI.from http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/responses.html?article_id=65000419 Yes, Gov. Bush did well in the most recent debate. As a matter of fact, he did very well. Some would even say that he surprised his opponent, Vice President Gore. But your suggestion that Mr. Bush did well on his own is only partly right. Mr. Bush did well not only because he's an intelligent and charismatic leader, but perhaps due to the fact that Mr. Gore has sadly, yet to decide who he wants to be. Mr. Gore is a confused soul, and that confusion only continues to help Mr. Bush. Big time! Instead of standing on his own two feet, and promote his own stands on issues, the vice president agreed with Mr. Bush on many points. That made Mr. Gore look weak and the Texas governor strong. Mr. Gore will not win this election unless he allows voters to see who he really is. Pretending to be someone he is not will lead him straight into the private sector and help catapult Mr. Bush into the presidency on Nov. 7, 2000. -A A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WP: Gore in nuclear hot water: Letter shows Gore made Russian deal
-Caveat Lector- October 16, 2000 Letter shows Gore made Russian deal By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES Vice President Al Gore, at the urging of Russian Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin, agreed to keep secret from Congress details of Russia's nuclear cooperation with Iran beginning in late 1995. = In a classified "Dear Al" letter obtained by The Washington = Times, Mr. Chernomyrdin told Mr. Gore about Moscow's = confidential nuclear deal with Iran and stated that it was = "not to be conveyed to third parties, including the = U.S. Congress." But sources on Capitol Hill said Mr. Gore withheld the information from key senators who normally would be told of such high-level security matters. The Gore-Chernomyrdin deal, disclosed in a letter labeled "secret," appears to violate a provision of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Act, which requires the Clinton administration to keep congressional oversight committees fully informed of all issues related to nuclear weapons proliferation. The Chernomyrdin letter on nuclear cooperation with Iran follows a report in the New York Times last week showing that Mr. Gore reached a secret deal with Russia several months earlier that appears to circumvent U.S. laws requiring the imposition of sanctions on Russia for its conventional arms sales to Iran. That arrangement also was kept secret from Congress, raising concerns among some lawmakers that the administration may be hiding other secret deals. Gore spokesman Jim Kennedy said: "It's obvious that the motivation for this leak is political." The letter "simply appears to be part of the overall United States effort to encourage the Russians to break off or limit their nuclear relationship with Iran," Mr. Kennedy said in a statement last night. The Dec. 9, 1995, letter on Iranian nuclear cooperation states that the two leaders' discussions as part of a special commission had resulted in "clarity and mutual understanding" on the matter. The letter said there were "no new trends" in Moscow's sale of nuclear equipment to Iran since a 1992 agreement. It also states that Russia and the United States would seek to prevent the "undermining of the nuclear arms non-proliferation program." Mr. Chernomyrdin said Moscow's program of building a nuclear reactor in Iran would be limited to training technicians in Russia, and the delivery of "nuclear fuel for the power plant for the years 2001 through 2011." "The information that we are passing on to you is not to be conveyed to third parties, including the U.S. Congress," Mr. Chernomyrdin said. "Open information concerning our cooperation with Iran is obviously a different matter, and we do no[t] object to the constructive use of such information. I am counting on your understanding." A classified analysis acompanying the letter stated that Russian assistance "if not terminated, can only lead to Iran's acquisition of a nuclear weapons capability." "Such a development would be destabilizing not only for the already volatile Middle East, but would pose a threat to Russian and Western security interests," the analysis stated. Russian promises to limit cooperation with Iran's nuclear program have been undermined by numerous U.S. intelligence reports showing Moscow is providing nuclear-weapons-related equipment to Tehran outside the scope of its declared limits, according to U.S. officials. A senior State Department official, Robert Einhorn, told a Senate subcommittee hearing earlier this month that Russian nuclear assistance is a "persistent problem" and that Russian companies linked to the government are providing Iran with "laser isotope separation technology" used to enrich uranium for weapons. Asked about the letter, congressional aides close to the issue said they knew nothing about the details that the Russian leader gave Mr. Gore. "All this nuclear cooperation is sanctionable," said a senior congressional aide. The secret Gore-Chernomyrdin dealings have become an issue in the presidential election campaign. Texas Gov. George W. Bush stated during a campaign stop in Michigan last week that the reported deal on Russian arms transfers to Iran was "a troubling piece of information." He demanded an explanation from the vice president. An earlier Gore-Chernomyrdin agreement, also obtained by The Washington Times, reveals that the United States would not impose sanctions on Russia required under U.S. law in exchange for Moscow's promise to end arms sales to Iran. That agreement, called an "aide memoire" and signed by Mr. Gore and Mr. Chernomyrdin on June 30, 1995, required Russia to halt all arms sales to Iran by Dec. 31, 1999. In exchange, the United States promised "to take appropriate steps to avoid any penalties to Russia that might otherwise arise under domestic law . . .," says the agreement, labeled "secret." The aide memoire also states that the United States would
[CTRL] Reu: Plane Carrying Missouri Governor Crashes
-Caveat Lector- Tuesday October 17 12:21 AM ET Plane Carrying Missouri Governor Crashes ST. LOUIS (Reuters) - A plane believed to be carrying Missouri Gov. Mel Carnahan crashed in rain and fog on Monday night and the Democratic state party chairman said that the governor was ``missing.'' Carnahan, who has been governor of Missouri for eight years, was running for the Senate and had been locked in a tight race with incumbent Republican Sen. John Ashcroft. The governor and two other people had been aboard a small, private plane that crashed 30 miles southwest (50 km) of St. Louis late on Monday. It went down shortly after takeoff. The three had been headed New Madrid, Missouri. Ray Temple, the Democratic state chairman, said the governor was ``missing'' but declined to say that he had been killed. = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WND: Nyquist: Things fall apart
-Caveat Lector- http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_nyquist/2717_xcjny_things_fal.shtml Things fall apart © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com In his poem, "The Second Coming," William Butler Yeats describes the circumstances surrounding the arrival of the Antichrist. He writes of a blood-dimmed tide which drowns the "ceremony of innocence." As anarchy is loosed upon the world, the "falcon cannot hear the falconer." In the midst of this, says Yeats, "the center cannot hold" and "things fall apart." The world system, as it stands today, is more fragile than most of us realize. And last week, as America moved pleasantly and comfortably along, there were indications of impending trouble. It is not yet the blood-dimmed tide that Yeats wrote about, but things could begin to fall apart. The oil problem, which affects us all, has been accentuated in recent months by repeated shortfalls in production. In fact, we are now facing a potential energy crisis. Since world oil production continues to decline as summer demand increases, economic growth could stall and markets could plummet. The situation is especially hazardous since stocks of gasoline in Europe and America are running low. Although key OPEC countries have promised to increase their production, it appears that Saddam Hussein has purposely thrown a monkey-wrench into the works, maliciously cutting his country's oil output by a whopping 490,000 barrels per day, lowering overall global production in June. The Iraqi dictator has long held a grudge against the West, which be blames for "centuries of wrongs." Pathologically animated by a lust for power, Hussein is not a normal human being. Testimony from Iraqi defector sources indicates that Saddam is a sadistic psychopath who revels in videos of torture and murder recorded by his secret police. A sick individual of this type is capable of anything. Recent history shows that Saddam is ready and willing to inflict great suffering on his own people to satisfy his general desire for revenge. In a recently published book by Shyam Bhatia and Daniel McGrory entitled, "Brighter Than the Baghdad Sun," it is revealed that Hussein was readying an atomic bomb at the outset of the Gulf War, which he intended to use on the allied forces during Operation Desert Storm. Luckily, an American F117 pilot, running out of fuel over Iraq, was advised to lose his last bomb by dropping it on an unimportant Iraqi building. As it happened, the unimportant building was the location of Iraq's atom bomb, then being assembled. It is said that upon hearing the bad news, Saddam sat alone in the dark for an hour, his face buried in his hands. Since Saddam Hussein isn't a man to let go of his anger, the radical decrease in Iraqi oil production is probably no accident. Saddam wants to hurt the United States and the West, using any and all means at his disposal. According to press reports, Saddam has recently received jamming equipment from Russia that can hamper U.S. missiles. Given a new lease on life, who knows what the wiley Arab dictator will do next? With Western economies in an especially vulnerable position with regard to Middle East oil output, it is more than a little ominous that Russia is beginning to mass 50,000 additional troops on its southern frontiers, which look down on the Middle East. These troop movements, announced on Friday and masked by a phony row between the Defense Minister and the Chief of the Russian General Staff, are supposedly linked to a series of bomb blasts that have recently rocked southern Russian cities. Kremlin military leaders are also pointing to an increased threat from Afghan and Chechen rebel forces in the Caucasus and Central Asia, respectively. But there may be more to it than that, because the Russians are now claiming that NATO has entered the Chechen conflict. Last week military sources in Russia unofficially alleged that a NATO country was involved in the terror bombing of the central market in Vladikavkaz, and that this same NATO country was directing Chechen forces to launch diversionary attacks against Russian positions at Gudermes and Grozny. According to ITAR-Tass, the diversionary attacks were intended to facilitate the insertion of 1,500 rebel reinforcements that have been massing in the former Soviet republic of Georgia. This entire operation, said ITAR-Tass, was planned "by officers from the general staff of a certain NATO country." It is further alleged that Russian intelligence has intercepted radio communications between the Turkish military and Chechen rebel commanders. Turkey is situated to the south of Russia, and serves to extend NATO's flank into the Middle East. As it happens, Turkey borders Iraq and Syria, and has friendly relations with Israel. Any military or diplomatic pressure placed on Turkey, could alter the political-military equation in the Middle East. It is somewhat dangerous, and certainly provocative, for Russia's official press to accuse a NATO country of
