Re: [CTRL] Veterans, Women become Homeless under Clinton/Gore

2000-12-29 Thread Eagle 1

-Caveat Lector-

And who do we suppose is going to come in and champion this cause?
Surely it isn't Clinton or Gore!  Perhaps a supernatural intervention is
close at hand???  This story you've sent Amelia is sad, but a rude awakening
for some.

Thanks for the reminder,  that not all Americans have had a Merry Christmas
sitting by the fireplace.  And as pointed out,  THIS is under the Clinton
Administration.  Unfortunately,  it mattered not who got the Presidency,
the new admin was going to inherit this travesty regardless.  We will also
reap the bombshells of a declining economy, not a bounding economy as the
Clinton admin would propagandize us to believe.  Soon we will see just how
bad of condition this country really is in,  and though it will come out
during the Bush admin,  it won't be Bush who created it.  Clinton will leave
behind a legacy of failures.  Only the tip of the iceburg has begun to be
exposed.

eagle 1


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From: "Amelia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 1:55 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Veterans, Women become Homeless under Clinton/Gore


> -Caveat Lector-
>
>  {It has bee suggested that people are homeless somehow because of Ronald
> Regan,  of all people.  This current survey says these people are newly
> homeless and one-third are veterans.  This is not surprising under the "We
> loathe the military" Clinton reign.  What is sad is that 25% of them are
> women, a group this administration pretended to champion.  Regan had no
> power to close STATE institutions for the mentall ill.  Only states can do
> that.  If he cut federal funding to them, good for him!  The federal govt
> has no business in the treatment and care of the mentally ill.  That is
the
> responsibility of each state and if they fail to do so, it is their shame
> and responsibility.  The idea of "federally controlled asylums" sounds
like
> a KGB plot.  The majority of these people surveyed appear to be victims of
> the false prosperity currently in this country and not mentally ill.  Most
> are homeless for the first time or have been so for less than five years,
> 65% less than a year.  I don't believe we can blame Regan for these.  AKE}
>
>
> Women, Vietnam vets make up growing percentage of homeless, survey shows
> The Associated Press
> 12/29/00 1:29 AM
>
>
> BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) -- A survey of rescue missions across the country,
> including one in Birmingham and one in Bessemer, shows that women and
> Vietnam veterans make up an increasing percentage of homeless people.
>
> The survey, which included the Jimmie Hale Mission in Birmingham and City
of
> Hope in Bessemer, was compiled by the Association of Gospel Rescue
Missions.
> It included interviews of 20,250 homeless people who were staying at
> shelters during October 2000. Of those surveyed, 22 percent were younger
> than 25.
>
> "There are several surprises. One is how young they are," said Tony
Cooper,
> executive director of the Jimmie Hale Mission. "About a third were
homeless
> for the first time. It destroys the idea all the homeless are old and it's
a
> chronic thing."
>
> The survey also shows a shift over the last five years to an older
homeless
> population, and a third of those surveyed said they were never before
> homeless, while 65 percent said they had been homeless less than a year.
>
> "The streets of America are full of new homeless people," said the Rev.
> Steve Burger, executive director of the Association of Gospel Rescue
> Missions.
>
> Veterans make up a third of homeless people and 47 percent of the homeless
> veterans served in Vietnam, up from 38 percent in last year's survey.
>
> Nationally, about 24 percent of the homeless are women, up from 19 percent
> in 1995, according to the survey.
>
> The survey also showed that 29 percent of men and 27 percent of women are
in
> rehabilitation. Racially, the breakdown was 42 percent white, 41 percent
> black and 13 percent Hispanic.
>
>
> Copyright 2000 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may
not
> be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
>



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[CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] WODs

2000-12-29 Thread Amelia

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Did anybody else see former Sec. of Labor Robert Reich (sp ?) on TV recently
saying he was present when Clinton smoked marijuana and Clinton did, indeed,
appear to inhale?  LOL! You gotta love it!
Amelia

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Subject: [CTRL] WODs


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> From
> http://www.lewrockwell.com/wilkerson/wilkerson27.html
>
> }}>Begin
> The
>   War on Drugs Is a War on Liberty
> by
>   Scott Wilkerson
>
> William
>   S. Burroughs, the visionary novelist and social critic,
warned that
>   the United States government's war on drugs was nothing more
than
>   the pretext for establishing in our culture a vast police
apparatus
>   that would forever supercede all our claims to privacy and
property.
>

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[CTRL] Fw: IRS Cause of Boston Shootings

2000-12-29 Thread Amelia


Legal Scholars Say 
Government Regs. Led to Boston Shootings

  
  
By Sierra Times - Posted: 12.29.00
  
Government’s Warrantless Search & 
  Attempted Warrantless Seizure Leads to Shooting Rampage; Boston Again the 
  Scene of Tax Revolt; Legal Scholar Says Government Evasion of 
  Constitutional Requirements for Tax Searches and Seizures Led to Killings 
  
  

  
Reports indicate an employee of a Boston Internet consulting 
  firm shot and killed seven co-workers who apparently participated in plans 
  to honor warrantless government searches for and seizures of the 
  employee’s earnings, accrued and future.
  

  
The law, constitutional and statutory, requires a Fourth 
  Amendment warrant, executive or judicial, for tax searches and seizures, 
  but the IRS has routinely operated without them, provoking an outcry, 
  producing litigation, and fomenting office stress that has now resulted in 
  violence. "Without a valid warrant, no legally valid proof of a tax debt 
  exists," said Virginia L. Cropsey, J.D., a graduate of Wayne State 
  University School of Law and the University of Michigan, and author of an 
  Internet newsletter and new 
  website that expose the legal insufficiency 
  of IRS notices of levy. 
  

  
"The Fourth Amendment accords protection to a person’s 
  "effects," Cropsey says, "and that includes a person’s accounts 
  receivable." The Fourth Amendment was inspired by the 1761 speech in 
  Boston against the writs of assistance by James Otis, an attorney engaged 
  by the merchants of Boston. British issuance of the writs of assistance, 
  which are similar to the current IRS "process" led to the Revolutionary 
  War. A young John Adams, later second President of the United States, 
  heard the Otis speech and was inspired to draft a provision, Article XIV, 
  for the 1780 Massachusetts Declaration of Rights, which later became the 
  basic language for the Fourth Amendment, Cropsey says. At the time of the 
  construction of the Bill of Rights, Richard Henry Lee, Senator from 
  Virginia, and an ancestor of Robert E. Lee, saw to it the word "effects" 
  rather than "possessions" was used in the Fourth Amendment, so that 
  accounts receivable, which would include the apparent shooter, Michael 
  McDermott’s earnings, have Fourth Amendment protection. This means, and 
  the 4th and 5th Amendment pre-judgment seizure case law shows, that a 
  warrant is required, according to Cropsey. Additionally, wages are special 
  property for purposes of pre-judgment seizure under the Supreme Court 
  decision in Sniadach v. Family Finance Corp. You can’t seize property for 
  taxes in this country pre-judgment without a sworn statement, says 
  Cropsey. "Certainly the government should have to swear the debt is owed 
  and demonstrate probable cause for these searches and seizures. The IRS 
  has no business writing your employer about you and interfering with your 
  employment relations without proper authorization."
  

  

  
Recently Cropsey showed that the Fourth Amendment’s "no 
  warrants" clause was intended by the Framers to require at a minimum, an 
  executive branch warrant for tax seizures. “I call it ‘all about 
  adjectives,’” said Cropsey. “I read the case law more carefully than most 
  attorneys, and noted that the Supreme Court said in its 1977 opinion in GM 
  Leasing that a judicial warrant was necessary for entry into private 
  premises for tax seizures. I knew from the plain language of the Fourth 
  Amendment, and from research I did on the 1762 case of Entick v. 
  Carrington & Three Other King’s Messengers, a British sedition case, 
  and from other research, that at least an executive branch warrant was 
  necessary for other tax seizures. I’m a bit like the kid in “6th Sense” – 
  I don’t see dead people, but I see something the others didn’t due to my 
  careful reading of the Fourth Amendment’s 'no warrants' clause – I see 
  executive branch warrants."
  

  
These executive branch warrants were held to be required for 
  federal tax seizures. Pre-1954 case law exposed in a 1998 opinion in 
  Williams v. Boulder Dam Credit Union by Clark County Nevada Magistrate 
  Victor Miller held the executive branch warrant is required, Cropsey says. 
  Cases concerning the issue of the warrant requirement are just beginning 
  to make their way through the courts, she says. In order to avoid a Fourth 
  Amendment test, the government does not cross the line and technically 
  seize the property; it has not been using the language obfuscated case law 
  says is required for seizure – "is seized and levied upon," according to 
  Cropsey, who says she spent over 1000 hours r

[CTRL] Veterans, Women become Homeless under Clinton/Gore

2000-12-29 Thread Amelia

-Caveat Lector-

 {It has bee suggested that people are homeless somehow because of Ronald
Regan,  of all people.  This current survey says these people are newly
homeless and one-third are veterans.  This is not surprising under the "We
loathe the military" Clinton reign.  What is sad is that 25% of them are
women, a group this administration pretended to champion.  Regan had no
power to close STATE institutions for the mentall ill.  Only states can do
that.  If he cut federal funding to them, good for him!  The federal govt
has no business in the treatment and care of the mentally ill.  That is the
responsibility of each state and if they fail to do so, it is their shame
and responsibility.  The idea of "federally controlled asylums" sounds like
a KGB plot.  The majority of these people surveyed appear to be victims of
the false prosperity currently in this country and not mentally ill.  Most
are homeless for the first time or have been so for less than five years,
65% less than a year.  I don't believe we can blame Regan for these.  AKE}


Women, Vietnam vets make up growing percentage of homeless, survey shows
The Associated Press
12/29/00 1:29 AM


BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) -- A survey of rescue missions across the country,
including one in Birmingham and one in Bessemer, shows that women and
Vietnam veterans make up an increasing percentage of homeless people.

The survey, which included the Jimmie Hale Mission in Birmingham and City of
Hope in Bessemer, was compiled by the Association of Gospel Rescue Missions.
It included interviews of 20,250 homeless people who were staying at
shelters during October 2000. Of those surveyed, 22 percent were younger
than 25.

"There are several surprises. One is how young they are," said Tony Cooper,
executive director of the Jimmie Hale Mission. "About a third were homeless
for the first time. It destroys the idea all the homeless are old and it's a
chronic thing."

The survey also shows a shift over the last five years to an older homeless
population, and a third of those surveyed said they were never before
homeless, while 65 percent said they had been homeless less than a year.

"The streets of America are full of new homeless people," said the Rev.
Steve Burger, executive director of the Association of Gospel Rescue
Missions.

Veterans make up a third of homeless people and 47 percent of the homeless
veterans served in Vietnam, up from 38 percent in last year's survey.

Nationally, about 24 percent of the homeless are women, up from 19 percent
in 1995, according to the survey.

The survey also showed that 29 percent of men and 27 percent of women are in
rehabilitation. Racially, the breakdown was 42 percent white, 41 percent
black and 13 percent Hispanic.


Copyright 2000 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not
be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

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[CTRL] FOT - WTO

2000-12-29 Thread Euphorix

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From
http://www.focusweb.org/focus/pd/apec/fot/fot43.htm

}}>Begin
Saturday, Dec. 30, 2000

Number 43, January 2000

IN THIS ISSUE:
Post Seattle, there has been a lot of talk about how to reform the WTO. In this
issue,
Walden Bello argues that in the case of both the IMF and the WTO, NGOs must be aware
of the
pitfalls of the reform agenda.

 Why Reform of the WTO is the Wrong Agenda
By Walden Bello*


 In the wake of the collapse of the Seattle Ministerial, there has emerged the
opinion that reform of
the WTO is now the program that NGOs, governments, and citizens must embrace. The
collapse of
the WTO Ministerial is said to provide a unique window of opportunity for a reform
agenda.


 Cited by some as a positive sign is United States Trade Representative Charlene
Barshefsky's
comment, immediately after the collapse of the Seattle Ministerial, that "the WTO
has outgrown the
processes appropriate to an earlier time." An increasing and necessary view,
generally shared
among the members, was that we needed a process which had a greater degree of
internal
transparency and inclusion to accommodate a larger and more diverse membership." (1)



 Also seen as an encouraging gesture is UK Secretary of State for Trade and Industry
Stephen Byers'
recent statement to Commonwealth Trade Ministers in New Delhi that the "WTO will not 
be able to
continue in its present form. There has to be fundamental and radical change in order 
for it to meet
the needs and aspirations of all 134 of its members." (2)


 These are, in our view, damage control statements and provide little indication of 
the seriousness
about reform of the two governments that were, pre-Seattle, the stoutest defenders of 
the inequalities
built into the structure, dynamics, and objectives of the WTO. It is unfortunate that 
they are now being
cited to convince developing countries and NGOs to take up an agenda of reform that 
could lead
precisely to the strengthening of an organization that is very fundamentally flawed.


 What civil society, North and South, should instead be doing at this point is 
radically cutting down the
power of the institution and reducing it to simply another institution in a 
pluralistic world trading
system with multiple systems of governance.


 Is the WTO Necessary?


 This is the fundamental question on which the question of reform hinges.  World trade 
did not need
the WTO to expand 17-fold between 1948 and 1997, from $124 billion to $10,772 billion. 
(3) This
expansion took place under the flexible GATT trade regime.  The WTO's founding in 1995 
did not
respond to a collapse or crisis of world trade such as happened in the 1930's. It was 
not necessary
for global peace, since no world war or trade-related war had taken place during that 
period. In the seven major inter-state wars that took place in that period-the Korean 
War of 1950-53, the Vietnam
War of 1945-75, the Suez Crisis of 1956, the 1967 Arab-Israeli War, the 1973 
Arab-Israeli War, the
1982 Falklands War, and the Gulf War of 1990-trade conflict did not figure even 
remotely as a cause.


 GATT was, in fact, functioning reasonably well as a framework for liberalizing world 
trade. Its dispute-
settlement system was flexible and with its recognition of the "special and 
differential status" of
developing countries, it provided the space in a global economy for Third World 
countries to use trade policy for development and industrialization.


 Why was the WTO established following the Uruguay Round of 1986-94?


 Of the major trading powers, Japan was very ambivalent, concerned as it was to 
protect its
agriculture as well as its particular system of industrial production that, through 
formal and informal
mechanisms, gave its local producers primary right to exploit the domestic market. The 
EU, well on
the way of becoming a self-sufficient trading bloc, was likewise ambivalent, knowing 
that its highly
subsidized system in agriculture would come under attack. Though demanding greater 
access to
their manufactured and agricultural products in the Northern economies, the developing 
countries
did not see this as being accomplished through a comprehensive agreement enforced by a 
powerful
trade bureaucracy but through discrete negotiations and agreements in the model of the 
Integrated
Program for Commodities (IPCs) and Commodity Stabilization Fund agreed upon under the 
aegis of
UNCTAD in the late seventies.


 The founding of the WTO served primarily the interest of the United States. Just as 
it was the US
which blocked the founding of the International Trade Organization (ITO) in 1948, when 
it felt that this
would not serve its position of overwhelming economic dominance in the post-war world, 
so it was
the US that became the dominant lobbyist for the comprehensive Uruguay Round and the 
founding
of the WTO in late eighties and early nineties, when it felt that more competitive 
global conditions had
created a situation where its corporat

[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Fw: Environmental

2000-12-29 Thread Amelia

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Certainly.  That is what I meant by "mood swings of Mother Nature."
Amelia


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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Fw: Environmental


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Amelia said
> >>I cannot help but wonder if we are being HAARP'ed!<<
>
> Have you considered the possibility of it (the weather)
> just being an "act of God"?  Or perhaps the simple solution,
> an "act of nature"...
>

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[CTRL] Jerry Brown: Clinton Will Look Better After More Impeachments

2000-12-29 Thread Amelia

-Caveat Lector-

{Now here is a novel suggestion. AKE}

Thursday Dec. 28, 2000; 11:41 p.m. EST

Jerry Brown: Clinton Will Look Better After More Impeachments

One-time Democratic presidential hopeful Jerry Brown says that Bill
Clinton's impeachment will be no big deal to historians, especially "if we
get a couple more presidents impeached."

Brown, now mayor of Oakland, Calif., was grilled on the topic of Clinton's
legacy Thursday night by Fox News Channel's Laurie Dhue, who was filling in
on "The Edge with Paula Zahn."

DHUE: We know Bill Clinton is very concerned with his place in the history
books, particularly in his last term. What was his legacy and will the
history books remember him more for being impeached than anything else?

BROWN: Well, that's an easy footnote on his eight years. But I think

DHUE: A footnote?

BROWN: Yeah, it will be a footnote. Look at history. Go back 50 years and
these things all fall into perspective. I think you can't say what the
legacy's going to be In 50 years, you don't know what will happen. There
could be global warming. There could be nuclear war. And all this stuff will
be trivial. So the context from history's point of view is not available for
our examination.

DHUE: That is true. But I would argue with you that it is not trivial that a
standing president of the United States was impeached. I would argue that,
that, perhaps, will be remembered more than NAFTA or welfare (reform).

BROWN: Well, it's memorable because it doesn't happen that often. But what
happens if we get a couple more presidents impeached? Then it will be no big
deal.

Brown may have a longer wait than he thinks. In America's 224 year history,
Clinton is the only elected president to have ever been impeached.

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[CTRL] Justice Department - the Clintons' Caretakers

2000-12-29 Thread Amelia

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Justice Department - the Clintons' Caretakers
Neal Boortz
Thursday, Dec. 21, 2000
Here's more proof that the Justice Department under Bill Clinton has existed
primarily to keep criminal investigations and embarrassment away from the
Clintons.
Do you remember Adelaide Abankwah?

She is the woman who appealed for asylum in the United States, claiming to
have been chosen "queen mother" of her tribe back in Ghana. She said, too,
that if she returned there, she would be forced to undergo female
circumcision because she is not a virgin.

Politicians, pretty celebrities and human rights activists hopped on the
bandwagon. Luminaries such as Hillary Clinton, Julia Roberts and Vanessa
Redgrave supported her case. Abankwah eventually won asylum in a federal
appeals court.

Now it turns out to be a lie. Another fraud endorsed by feminists and other
leftists. The truth is that this woman's genitals were in no danger
whatsoever from any ritual in Africa.

An investigation by the Immigration and Naturalization Service revealed that
Abankwah is actually Regina Norman Danson, a former hotel worker from Ghana.
She made up the "queen mother" story after she was caught entering the
United States in 1997 with a stolen passport. She's a criminal, not a queen.

The real Adelaide Abankwah is a former college student who lives near
Washington. Her passport was stolen in Ghana four years ago.

Time for the Justice Department to step in and prosecute, right?

Wrong. It's not time for prosecution, it's time for cover-up. It's time to
sweep this all under some convenient rug somewhere.

Why is Danson not being prosecuted or deported for illegally entering this
country with a stolen passport? Well, because it might embarrass some
people, that's why.

The Washington Post reports that Clinton Justice Department officials were
reluctant to prosecute Regina Dawson because they didn't want to embarrass
Hillary Clinton or the Clinton administration. And they didn't want to
embarrass all of those wonderful leftists/feminists who came to her rescue.

Hillary was running for the U.S. Senate and there was no sense in Justice
giving any ammunition to her opponent, right?

Snowmen Are Men and That's Politically Incorrect

A British professor isn't too keen on snowmen. Yes, the professor is a
woman, Tricia Cusack, an art historian from Birmingham University in
England.

Art historian - now, there's a stunning career choice. Anyway, Cusak says
snowmen reinforce gender stereotypes by portraying men in prominent public
roles. In promotional literature from the university, Cusack writes that
"the snowman's location in the semi-public space of garden or field
reinforces a spatial-social system marking women's sphere as the
domestic-private and the men's as the commercial-public."

What kind of an idiot walks around talking about "spatial-social systems"?
People who wouldn't have a prayer of earning a decent living in the private
sector, that's who. People who are so impressed with their own so-called
intelligence that they have no hope of ever identifying with real-world
people living and working outside the hallowed fantasy world of academe.

Bottom line: This lady thinks snowmen reinforce the old idea that a woman's
place is in the home. Yeah, that's what I think when I see a snowman. I
think he's just an instrument of male oppression against women. Not only
that, he's made out of white snow! That means he's also an instrument of
white male oppression against women and minorities. That snowy bastard!

Then again, we are talking about merry old England, where political
correctness runs rampant.

So, are we going to ban snowmen?

Can't Afford to Travel? That's Because of the Taxes!

The Libertarian Party issued a press release yesterday with some figures
tabulated by the Americans for Tax Reform. They took a look at local, state
and federal government taxes on hotels and lodging, fuel, bus, train and
airline tickets, and other travel-related items. And they discovered that
the tax bill adds about 41 percent to the overall cost of your trip. No
misprint there - 41 percent of your travel costs!

Just look at the savings you'd realize without the taxes:

· A $400 airline ticket would cost only $240. You'd save $160 in federal
excise taxes, passenger facilities charges, fuel taxes, arrival and
departure taxes, air traffic control surcharges, customs, immigration, and
agricultural inspection fees, and the additional taxes airlines pay directly
to the government.

· An $80-a-night hotel room would cost $45.60. Forty-three percent of the
cost of a hotel room comes from states' sales and use taxes, occupancy taxes
and tourism taxes - combined with all the employment, income, and property
taxes the hotel owner pays directly to the government.

· That $50 restaurant bill would cost $36.20, if not for sales taxes on food
and drinks, plus taxes on alcohol, property taxes, income taxes, and payroll
taxes.

· A $20 tank of gasoline would cost $9.80.

[CTRL] WODs

2000-12-29 Thread Euphorix

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From
http://www.lewrockwell.com/wilkerson/wilkerson27.html

}}>Begin
The
  War on Drugs Is a War on Liberty
by
  Scott Wilkerson

William
  S. Burroughs, the visionary novelist and social critic, warned that
  the United States government’s war on drugs was nothing more than
  the pretext for establishing in our culture a vast police apparatus
  that would forever supercede all our claims to privacy and property.
  Nowhere is this nightmarish scenario more visibly prescient than
  in the case of actor Robert Downey Jr.
We all remember the details. The ghastly spectacle of Al Gore’s
  Thanksgiving voting piracy was briefly punctuated by news of how
  the police stormed into Downey’s Palm Springs hotel room on an
anonymous
  tip that he was inside with illegal narcotics and a gun, two things
  the government would love to keep from all citizens.
Indeed, they found him with cocaine, his drug of choice, and some
  other neuro-morphic delights. His mug shot was, of course, splayed
  endlessly across the entertainment news, but quickly coopted by
  the "important" news segments as evidence of the increasing
  dissolution of Hollywood and further proof that white males are,
  after all, the real problem in America.
The prosecutor from the District Attorney’s office in his case now
  reports that it is very likely a deal between the "authorities"
  and Downey’s defense will result in another engagement with a 
rehabilitation
  center instead of prison. Even the system recognizes that it is
  absurd to pursue non-violent drug offenders as though they were
  rapists or murderers or secessionists.
Strangely, the same Hollywood Left that loves Downey’s oblique sexuality
  and his campy wit, that has given him a splendid guest starring
  spot on Ally McBoring, that has recognized his comic genius with
  a Golden Globe nomination, and has rightly ignored the "authorities’"
  hysterical demands for his head did not publicly condemn the gratuitous
  invasion of his civil liberties when he was arrested because someone
  made a phone call! What in the world is going on here? Just more 
confusion because of loose equivocation on the meaning of words
  like "laws" and "rights."
The government does seem intuitively to understand that Downey is
  more useful to society than some wacked out crack-fiend robber gangsta
  from South Central and, therefore, extends to him a modicum of 
indulgence.
  But rather than re-examine the entire construction of its narcotics
  policies, the government merely renegotiates, every ninety days,
  the terms of Downey’s case. And the same Hollywood, that threatens
  to relocate to Europe every time a conservative dares to utter a 
discouraging word about some group’s victimological drivel, remains
  silent when one of its own becomes the poster boy for Federal Usurpation
  of Individual Liberty because it cannot discern whether Downey’s
  "right" to privacy is more or less fundamental than the
  state’s "laws" against doing to your own body whatever you like
Let us celebrate Robert Downey Jr.’s drug habit and his heroic serial
  returns to the front lines of this central debate. Burroughs correctly

  perceived that the government secretly resents those liberties it
  presumes to protect. We are complicit in the delusion that we are
  safe as long as we play it straight. But the war on drugs is a war
  on the individual. And each of us is a soldier in that battle.
December
  30, 2000
Scott
  Wilkerson is curator of the Ward Library at the Mises
  Institute.

End<{{

&&


From
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/steinreich3.html

}}>Begin
Leave
  Robert Downey Jr. Alone
by
  Dale Steinreich
Last
  Wednesday actor Robert Downey Jr. pleaded innocent to charges of
  drug possession and being under the influence of a controlled
substance
  during Thanksgiving weekend in Palm Springs, California. An anonymous
  phone tip had led police on November 25 to Downey’s room at a resort
  where he was found with cocaine and diazepam. For possessing both
  substances Downey could face up to 6 years in prison.
Downey’s
  struggle with drug addiction is anything but new. His run-ins with
  the law began on June 23, 1996, when he was stopped for speeding
  and police found cocaine and heroin in his vehicle. A m

[CTRL] They're Taking the Joy Out of Soy

2000-12-29 Thread Steve Wingate

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They're Taking the Joy Out of Soy

Does soy shrink the brain? Leave you anemic? Promote
rather than prevent cancer? Interfere with your thyroid
hormones? Is soy a toxin, a food or a drug? If you eat 
soy,
look out, here come the soy bashers. And you won't 
believe
who they are.

By Bill Sardi - Health Reporter Knowledge of Health, 
Inc.
May 2000
c. 2000 The Townsend Letter For Doctors
http://www.tldp.com/issue/11_00/joysoy.htm 12-29-00


 It went from being the darling of the natural products
 industry to being labeled as a potential toxin. Not
 even a year ago it was heralded in Time Magazine
 as the bean that brought down cholesterol and the
 risk of heart disease. Time Magazine said the Food
 & Drug Administration was soon to approve a health
 claim for soy protein - that it reduced cholesterol for
 people with elevated fatty plaque levels in their
 blood circulation. Just 1.5 ounces of soy, said Time,
 can lower both total and LDL "bad" cholesterol
 levels. [The Joy of Soy, Time Magazine, June 7,
 1999]

 What a joy, that soy, a natural food product, would
 gain such credibility that the FDA would grant a
 health claim for it. It was time for a soy festival. The
 normally pro-pharmaceutical FDA had finally
 succumbed to the reality that foods are a good way
 to prevent and even cure disease. The FDA says
 scientific studies confirm that 25 grams of soy has a
 significant cholesterol-lowering effect.* There was
 an asterisk attached to the FDA announcement
 however (see below). A soy burger has 9 to 18
 grams, and soy milk about 4 to 9 grams of soy
 protein, according to the Soyfoods Association of
 North America. The cardiovascular health claim was
 issued October 26, 1999. [FDA T99-48 Talk Paper]

 Just a relatively short time ago soy was considered
 a yucky un-American food. But today two-thirds of
 American consumers now believe it is healthy to
 consume soy, which is a big jump from the 14% who
 felt so in 1997. Soy sales were over $1 billion in
 1997 and are expected to soon jump over the $2
 billion mark. Health Products Business Magazine
 reports that the number of new soy beverages is
 growing at an astounding pace. More soy, more
 soy!

 But no sooner had the FDA approved a
 cardiovascular health claim for soy protein than the
 critics came out of the woodwork, and not from
 places one would expect. The greatest criticism of
 soy has come from natural health advocates
 themselves. Hold up on that soy protein bar, the
 tofu scramble and the soy milk. You might come
 down with Alzheimer's disease, your growing
 children may shows premature signs of puberty,
 your thyroid gland may malfunction and your body
 may not be able to absorb essential minerals,
 according to reports on soy now circulating in
 natural health publications.

 It took less than a month from the date of the
 issuance of a soy health claim for a bombshell to hit
 the soy industry. On November 19, 1999, the
 Honolulu Star Bulletin reported on a study
 conducted by Lon White, MD, MPH, formerly of the
 National Institute on Aging and now with the Pacific
 Healt

[CTRL] Ashcroft Nomination for Attorney General Bodes Ill for Drug Policy Reform

2000-12-29 Thread William Shannon
Ashcroft Nomination for Attorney General Bodes Ill for Drug Policy Reform In a decision with important implications for drug policy, President-elect George W. Bush has nominated Senator John Ashcroft (R-M)) to be his Attorney General. Ashcroft, who lost a November Senate race to the late Gov. Mel Carnahan, is also a former Missouri governor and attorney general. He is also a self-described Christian conservative who neither smokes, drinks, nor dances, and has a long record as staunch drug warrior. An anti-abortion, pro-death penalty ideologue, Ashcroft stands to be a polarizing figure. His !
ratings by various advocacy groups suggest a sharp divide: He scores 100% with the conservative Christian Coalition and Phyllis Schafly's Eagle Forum, but gets a big fat goose egg from liberal groups such as the National Organization for Women and the League of Conservation voters. The Leadership Conference for Civil Rights gave Ashcroft a 10% rating. Civil rights, civil liberties, and women's groups are already gearing up to challenge the nomination in the Senate, and drug policy activists are busily plotting whether and how to help, though the conventional wisdom is that Ashcroft will be seated as the next Attorney General. Ashcroft !
introduced the Methamphetamine Anti-Proliferation Act to increase penalties for manufacturing or trafficking that drug, and some of his comments on that occasion give insight into both Ashcroft's thinking and why drug reformers are worried about it: "... But there is another factor that motivates my opposition to meth: I want to fight meth because its use and production is wrong. And too few people are willing to stand up these days and call drugs wrong... much of our current predicament stems from the permissive attitudes that emerged from the 1960s. The decay of enforcement that began in the 1960s helped to cause the problems of the succeeding decades... Laws are what protects society from anarchy. And when we choose not to enforce our laws, our laws lose their effectiveness, an!
d the bulwark against anarchy withers." The Meth Act was just Ashcroft's main attraction this year. Outside the spotlight, he was busy preparing legislation crafted to ensure that no one escapes the drug war dragnet and to punish and punish again those who get caught. For instance: S. 587: A bill to provide for the mandatory suspension of federal benefits to convicted drug traffickers. S. 2008: A bill to require the pre-release drug testing of federal prisoners. (This masterpiece of vindict!
iveness demands that prisoners be tested prior to release and, if their tests are dirty, that the information be turned over to local prosecutors for possible new charges of violating drug or prison contraband laws.) S. 2517: A bill to amend the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act and the Gun-Free Schools Act of 1994 to allow school personnel to apply appropriate discipline measures to all students in cases involving weapons, illegal drugs, and assaults upon teachers. (Just because a kid is crippled doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to get him on drug charges.) Ashcroft has been riding the meth menace for some time, and has bragged!
 on his campaign web site and on the Senate floor about such victories as the "one strike and you're out" policy for methamphetamine violators living in public housing, securing the death penalty for some methamphetamine offenses, and securing High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area (HIDTA) status for his state. But his concerns with drug policy extend far beyond the borders of the Show-Me state. In 1998, he co-authored measures preventing Washington, DC's needle exchange program from obtaining local funding. In fact, he went further than that. He even attempted to block studies of the efficacy of needle exchange programs, arguing that determining that the programs work "is an intolerable message that it's time to accept drug use as a way of life," according to the Washington Post. When faced with a contradiction between the bedrock conservative principles of morality and free enterprise, Ashcroft has no problem choosing morality when it comes to illicit drugs. But his moral compass begins to gyrate when it comes to other addictive or abused substances. He has taken $44,500 dollars from beer companies since 1993, including $20,000 from St. Louis-based Anheuser-Busch, and he lauded the beer industry in a video tribute produced by the Beer Institute of America. When Mother Jones magazine took him to task for the contradiction, Ashcroft feebly replied, "It's a product that is in demand. And when it's used responsibly, it's like other products." He also stuck up for big tobacco, although he hasn't taken any tobacco money since accepting $8,000 for his 1994 Senate race. Oddly, in arguing against the tobacco bill, he suggested that people should be free to make bad choices. While drug policy reformers generally fear and loathe the prospect of an Ashcroft Department of Justice, early indications

[CTRL] Jesse Jackson villifies Robert E. Lee and today's conservative Christians - 4/11/2000

2000-12-29 Thread Aleisha Saba

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http://www.layman.org/layman/news/news-from-pcusa/jackson-villifies-lee.htm

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[CTRL] The Year of Living Endlessly

2000-12-29 Thread radman

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The Year of Living Endlessly



Finally we were ushered into a victory celebration where gray-haired,
somber, expensively tailored
Republicans murmured comradely remarks

By Larry Bensky

Forty years ago: A chill New York November morning, despite bright sun
bouncing from the tall, red brick walls across the wide upper Manhattan
avenue, through the dirty bay window of the tiny, one-bedroom apartment I
shared with two other guys just out of college. The three of us rotated our
six-month shifts in the coveted narrow bedroom with its attendant sexual
privacy privilege, the other two crashing on the cot and couch in our
shabby living room, scheming our intimate liaisons for times when the
others were supposedly away. It's only safe to get out of bed a half hour
at least after the heat clangs its way to the third of four floors in the
narrow brownstone building. Up too early, you'd measure the seconds by your
breath steaming in the overnight air.
But, today, cold be damned; it's election day! That sunny wall across the
street belongs to an armory; inside it is a polling place. A warm glow
suffuses the cold, dry sinuses, radiating from the fact that I'm finally
old enough to vote for the first time and today's the day I get to vote
against Richard Nixon!
Yes, even on my Election Day One, it was not about voting for that year's
windbag phony, the designated scion of the insular, prejudiced, narrowly
materialist Kennedy clan. It was about voting against Nixon, that
ever-shifting, ever-discomforting, ever-ambitious, ever-grim purveyor of
the deadly, divisive anti-communist
demonology which smothered social discussion, intellectual debate, and
communal development.  Kennedy's minions managed to steal that election for
him, one of the closest in history to that point,
with classic vote count manipulations in boss-rotten Democratic Chicago and
parts of running mate Lyndon Johnson's Democratic Texas fiefdoms as well.
And, of course, Nixon, far from disappearing, lurked around politically, to
reappear and claim his presidency eight years later in plenty
of time to continue the world-wide carnage Kennedy and Johnson had
escalated from Dwight
Eisenhower, who, in turn, had received the tools of cataclysmic,
ideologically inescapable overt and covert conflict from Democrat Harry
Truman.
I knew of this disillusioning bipartisan disgrace, of course; it was hardly
a secret at the time (and has been even better documented now, almost half
a century later). Nevertheless, I continued not only to vote, but to
organize others to vote.
When it was time to cast my next presidential ballot, in 1964, it was as an
absentee, while I was living in near-homeless poverty in Paris. Crashing in
two-dollar-a-night hotels with single fifteen-watt light bulbs and no
visible means of heat in a dark northern European winter, I learned which
cafés were likely to have the best collection of the newspapers I couldn't
afford to buy. Between the lines of those papers one could read that the
man I was organizing and intending to vote for, Lyndon Johnson, was a vulgar,
corrupt power junkie, whose pious rhetoric belied his miserable personal
and professional behavior,
only occasionally leavened by some vestigial concern for human welfare. But
here again, it was time not to vote for LBJ, but against Republican Barry
Goldwater, known, however falsely, as avatar of humankind's direst
potential: nuclear war, environmental degradation, ethnic apartheid.
By 1968, newly arrived in San Francisco with its intense menu of electoral
and non-electoral
leftisms, after the assassination of Bobby Kennedy and the milding out of
Eugene McCarthy, my
choice was between Dick Gregory and Eldridge Cleaver (I chose Cleaver, who,
as the years evolved, arguably turned out to be as despicable an option as
Nixon or Goldwater would have been).
The last Democrat on my electoral resumé, and probably the last one who
will ever be inscribed
thereupon, was George McGovern in 1972. Here, for once, I was not just
voting against someone
(Nixon, redux, now having acquired the power, which he used fully, to turn
his heretofore
rhetorical bellicosity into vast oceans of real blood and horror) but for a
man I had interviewed at
length, and whose comportment I had observed close-up during the campaign.
(Nixon clobbered him, of course, with a vicious campaign that succeeded in
submerging McGovern's sensible, gentle humanism in a fog of
pseudo-patriotic blather and youth-bashing.)
I had by then developed quite an obsession with electoralism, leavened with
a massive skepticism about its practitioners. In fact, that skepticism may
have dated back to an encounter that predated the casting of my first vote,
when I met the father and now grandfather of ex- and elect-Presidents Bush.
It happened when I was a sophomore in college the very same college which
allowed both Bushes to glide through on their pedigrees and privile

[CTRL] Conspiracy in the Gulf

2000-12-29 Thread William Shannon
Published 29 December 2000 in the Lisbon weekly newspaper Tal&Qual, in Portuguese. Translation by Mr. Duarte.
http://cryptome.org/pt-surprise.htm

Conspiracy in the Gulf 

International plot killed in Camarate 

The tragedy in Camarate* was provoked by arms deal during the Iran-Iraq war. This is the theory defended by the lawyer Ricardo Sa Fernandes in a book to be soon published Frederico Duarte Carvalho If the crash of the plane that carried Sa Carneiro and Adelino Amaro da Costa was an assassination, then what constituted the origin of those deaths were the arms deals during the Iran-Iraq war. This theory is going to be defended by the lawyer of the families of the victims, Ricardo Sa Fernandes, on his book The Crime of Camarate, which is due to be published 20 January. Ricardo Sa Fernandes will explain that the assassination was directed at the Minister of Defense, Adelino Amaro da Costa, while the death of the Prime Minister Sa Carneiro was an accident because he wasn't supposed to be on the fatal plane. Amaro da Costa was an undesirable person to the military because he would have received information from our embassies in the Middle East saying that there were important military men involved on the arms deal during the Iran-Iraq war. Portugal on the route Such weapons from the Americans went through Portugal using the ports of Lisbon, Leixues and Setzbal. With Portuguese military personnel, it is alleged, getting their share on the deal. It is known that the Minister of Defense at the time, Adelino Amaro da Costa, was investigating a secret slush fund controlled by the military. To give a little taste to this situation, let us just say that before taking office as President of the United States, one of Ronald Reagan's first actions was to send the former US Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger to Portugal. Kissinger was in Portugal on 12 November 1980, and held meetings with the then President Ramalho Eanes, the Prime Minister Sa Carneiro and Minister of Defense Amaro da Costa, as well with the then Socialist Party leader Mario Soares and the presidential candidate Soares Carneiro. Officially, Kissinger came to talk about the crisis in Zambia and came to Portugal just in the role of an official adviser to the pharmaceutical company Merck, Sharp & Dohme. Now with the Sa Fernandes theory, it is strange indeed that the Republicans rushed to send such a prestigious man to our country. Tal&Qual has made some investigations about a conspiracy theory that runs in Washington corridors, since 1988, the time when it became normal to use the expression "October Surprise," and the connection with this theory of Sa Fernandes. Let us remember that since the fall of the Shah of Iran, in the beginning of 1979, there were 52 Americans hostages held at the US embassy at Teheran, capital of Iran. Ronald Reagan and George Bush had just became elected, respectively, President and Vice-President of the USA, in a fight won over the former President, the Democrat Jimmy Carter. The inaugural address of Ronald Reagan happened on 21 January 1981. Soon after that speech the 52 American hostages in Teheran were released after 444 days of captivity. Only in 1988 did the first questions emerge: Why wasn't Jimmy Carter able to negotiate the release of the hostages, losing that way an important card in the elections that had given the victory to the Republicans? In fact, Jimmy Carter got the honor of going to welcome the hostages at the US military base in Frankfurt, Germany, just because Ronald Reagan granted that permission. And the rest of the so-called conspiracy began to grow. __
Extra for Cryptome readers: For those not familiar with the Camarate case: Camarate is the name of the area on the outskirts of the Lisbon airport where a small Cessna plane crashed on the night of 4 December 1980. On that plane were the Portuguese Prime Minister Sa Caneiro, the Minister of Defense Amaro da Costa, their wives, the Chief of Cabinet Patricio Gouveia and the two pilots. The real facts regarding the crash of the plane, even after 20 years, have never been determined. But there is strong evidence of an explosion soon after the take-off. The families of the victims are still fighting to take the case to court. A Portuguese film , Camarate: Acident ou Atentado?, has just been made. Some pictures can be seen at the site www.camarate.com. In the film the name of Frank Carlucci is mentioned. He was at the CIA in 1980 and had been Ambassador to Portugal from 1974 until 1979. 



[CTRL] LaRouche 2004!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2000-12-29 Thread William Shannon

LaRouche Announces New 
Presidential Campaign For 2004


12-29-00
(EIRNS) - Lyndon LaRouche, world-renowned economist and former candidate for the Democratic Party Presidential nomination, announced that he will run for the Democratic party nomination for President in 2004, and released the following statement today:   "I herewith set my guidon at the top of the hill; those supporters of the Democratic Party, and others, who recognize the need to return to that quality of leadership out of a great financial crisis which President Franklin Roosevelt represents, must have a rallying-point around which to transform the efforts into an effective, mission-oriented mobilization, a mobilization to save this republic from what appears, presently, to be our assured ruin.   "Although the outgoing President Bill Clinton will be, still, the leading institutional figure around which the Democratic Party will continue to be rallied as a party, that is not sufficient. The world is gripped by a great moral crisis, which is also a great economic crisis. The great need, is to return this nation, from the past thirty-five years direction in policy-making, by which the nation has ruled and ruined itself, to those successful principles of policy-shaping by means of which the nation survived the great crises of 1933-1945. The fate of this nation depends upon our ability to choose, now, a kind of leadership qualified to lead our republic out of the great catastrophe which thirty-five years of national folly have dumped upon us now.   "Look at the spectacle of confusion raging throughout the Democratic Party today. I am reminded of a once-famous
play by a Sicilian author, `Six Characters In Search of An Author,' an hysterical search for a consensus, which is reminiscent of panicked cockroaches in a New York City apartment's kitchen, or of hungry prostitutes after a nuclear holocaust, each and all competing for the last surviving prospective customer. Typical is the virtual application for Republican Party membership, as might have been expected, as submitted on a recent CNN television broadcast by the Rev. Jesse Jackson. In short, the images of the Party's reaction to the Supreme Court decision, are each only more disgusting than the next.   "The immediate, urgent practical importance of presenting my candidacy now, is not the November 2004 vote; the issue is whether this nation reaches November 2004 intact. Someone, a person actually qualified for this role, must place the guidon on the top of the hill, to rally the forces into order of battle, around urgent, fundamental changes in economic policy, for the days and months immediately ahead. At the moment, I am the only living person both situated and qualified to supply that quality of leadership.   "The follies of the Gore candidacy, including the follies of those who relied upon that candidacy, are not clarified by the results obtained. The Democratic Party's campaign for the year 2000 election-campaign, was a terrible mistake, a terrible error of substituting unprincipled political opportunism, in place of judgments based upon honest principle. To resume its proper role, the Party need not resort to public mea culpas; it will be sufficient to signal the turn, by doing the right thing, for a change.   "This means a return to the principles set forth in the 1776 Declaration of Independence and the Preamble to the 1789 Federal Constitution. This means, once again, a repudiation of the legacy of Theodore Roosevelt, of Ku Klux Klan enthusiast Woodrow Wilson, of Coolidge, and of Nixon and Carter, too. It means to do what is equivalent, for today, to what Franklin Roosevelt did in his campaign of 1932. Our nation's survival, and also that of your family, depends upon making that kind of change, now.   "I take my stand. We shall sort out the succession in the leadership as the fight develops over the weeks and months to come." _     EIR - Executive Intelligence Review PO Box 17390 Washington DC 20041 www.larouchepub.com   Seminar invitation   On Wednesday, Jan. 3, at 1 p.m. EST, newly-announced Presidential candidate LaRouche will address the following and related issues at a Washington, D.C. seminar, the third in the series of EIR seminars held since the outbreak of the U.S. election crisis. The seminar will also be broadcast live on the internet, in English and Spanish translation, at www.larouchespeaks.com and www.larouchepub.com.   To participate in the seminar, or for more information, please call Mark Sonnenblick (703) 771-8490.





Re: [CTRL] Hangover Cures From The Land O' Science

2000-12-29 Thread Kelly

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William Shannon wrote:

> That was meant for another list...as they say on Springer..."MY
> BAD"...sorry
> folks!!

heehee - I just did the SAME thing!

Kelly

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[CTRL] HOLIDAY HANGOVER CURES FROM THE LAND OF SCIENCE

2000-12-29 Thread Kelly

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http://www.whitleysworld.com/news122900a.html
12/29/00

HOLIDAY HANGOVER CURES FROM THE LAND OF SCIENCE

Just in time for New Year's Eve, the London Science Museum has a new
exhibit on hangover cures. It turns out that the headache and flu-like
feelings are caused by dehydration, despite the fact that you've been
drinking all night, because alcohol removes precious water from the
body's cells. First: Eat a big meal before the party and eat while you
drink. This slows down the rate of alcohol absorption by the body. This
works best if the foods you eat contain plenty of fat, so wait until
after New Year's Eve to begin your annual diet. Fat is digested slowly,
so it will stay in the stomach and protect it from the irritating
effects of alcohol. If you don't have time to eat a meal, drink a glass
of milk before you go.

Second: Take lots of vitamin B6 before and after drinking. This can
reduce the severity of a hangover by half, although scientists don't
know why it works.

Third: Stick to white drinks like white wine, vodka and gin, because the
fewer additions to the pure spirits, the less chance for a hangover.
Substances called congeners that are found in red wine and colored
liquors magnify the effects of a hangover. Mixed drinks like Brandy
Alexanders are a killer.

Fourth: Have a glass of water between each alcoholic drink, but avoid
carbonated sodas because they increase the amount of alcohol that gets
into the blood stream. This is why people who stop at a couple of
drinks, then stick to soda for the rest of the evening, may find that
this strategy doesn't help. Drinking lots of water along with the
alcohol stops your brain from shrinking so much, which is a common
side-effect of alcohol consumption.

Fifth: After you get home, drink lots of water and take a vitamin C,
which speeds up the metabolism of liquor by the liver. You might also
drink a sports drink like Gatorade, which replaces lost electrolytes and
body sugars.

Sixth: The next day, if the above preventatives didn't work, don't
believe the old advice about "the hair of the dog." Drinking more
alcohol only puts off the inevitable reactions. Along with the aspirin,
take more vitamin C.

Eat eggs, because they contain cysteine, a substance that cleans out the
destructive chemicals that build up in your liver.

Good luck and Happy New Year!

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[CTRL] Â HOLIDAY HANGOVER CURES FROM THE LAND OF SCIENCE

2000-12-29 Thread Nurev Ind Research

-Caveat Lector-

http://www.whitleysworld.com/news122900a.html
12/29/00:Â HOLIDAY HANGOVER CURES FROM THE LAND OF SCIENCEhttp://www.whitleysworld.com/news122900ap.html">text version
Just in time for New Year’s Eve, the London Science Museum has a new exhibit
on hangover cures. It turns out that the headache and flu-like feelings are
caused by dehydration, despite the fact that you’ve been drinking all night,
because alcohol removes precious water from the body’s cells. First: Eat a
big meal before the party and eat while you drink. This slows down the rate
of alcohol absorption by the body. This works best if the foods you eat
contain plenty of fat, so wait until after New Year’s Eve to begin your
annual diet. Fat is digested slowly, so it will stay in the stomach and
protect it from the irritating effects of alcohol. If you don’t have time to
eat a meal, drink a glass of milk before you go.
Second: Take lots of vitamin B6 before and after drinking. This can reduce
the severity of a hangover by half, although scientists don’t know why it
works.
Third: Stick to white drinks like white wine, vodka and gin, because the
fewer additions to the pure spirits, the less chance for a hangover.
Substances called congeners that are found in red wine and colored liquors
magnify the effects of a hangover. Mixed drinks like Brandy Alexanders are a
killer.
Fourth: Have a glass of water between each alcoholic drink, but avoid
carbonated sodas because they increase the amount of alcohol that gets into
the blood stream. This is why people who stop at a couple of drinks, then
stick to soda for the rest of the evening, may find that this strategy
doesn’t help. Drinking lots of water along with the alcohol stops your brain
from shrinking so much, which is a common side-effect of alcohol consumption.
Fifth: After you get home, drink lots of water and take a vitamin C, which
speeds up the metabolism of liquor by the liver. You might also drink a
sports drink like Gatorade, which replaces lost electrolytes and body sugars.
Sixth: The next day, if the above preventatives didn’t work, don’t believe
the old advice about "the hair of the dog." Drinking more alcohol only puts
off the inevitable reactions. Along with the aspirin, take more vitamin C.
Eat eggs, because they contain cysteine, a substance that cleans out the
destructive chemicals that build up in your liver.
Good luck and Happy New Year!
For more details from BBC Health, http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/features/hangovers.shtml">click here.

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[CTRL] Sexbots

2000-12-29 Thread Kelly

-Caveat Lector-

>From http://slashdot.org/features/99/03/09/1544207.shtml

Engineers, programmers and futurists believe that programmable robots
that provide sexual companionship are likely to be commonplace in
the 21st century, at more or less the same time as computers become able
to process information as quickly as the human brain. The implications
of tactile sexbots, likely to contain vibrators, sound systems and other
equipment, are as significant as they are unexamined.

If you thought the fight over the CDA was bad, wait till
Rev.  Falwell and his many pious friends in Congress discover Sexbots.
For better or worse, computing might be breaking down another big wall.
Techno-futurists have a sorry record when it comes to predicting
technology and the future. Remember the intergalactic travel that was
the centerpiece of Disney's Tomorrowland? The magnetic hover cars,
cancer cures, and climate-control systems that were supposed to have
been long in place by the Millenium? And only a handful of technologists
imagined how big the Net would get.

But here's a futuristic vision that's a far surer and troubling bet than
e-sex: sexbots.  For several years now, engineers and futurists have
been writing (quietly) in academic journals and other venues about the
intuitive computer-programmed robots - sexual companions that contain
vibrators to provide tactile stimulation and sounds systems to provide
love talk - that some researchers believe are likely to become
commonplace in the next century.  A few years ago, these predictions
could have been brushed off as more digital hype, but computers
are obviously becoming more intelligent and intuitive, and are
fast processing information as rapidly as the human brain. Inventors and
futurists like Ray Kurzweil (author of The Age of Spiritual Machines),
are guaranteeing that computers will equal or surpass human intelligence
early in the 21st century.  So sexbots not only don't seem far-fetched,
they seem likely.

The contemporary news media, odd in many ways, are never more so
than when it comes to their reticence to talk openly about sex (unless
it's Presidential). They talk about sex scandals and Viagra, but
the ordinary experience of sexuality is almost a taboo. The Net has
liberated sex from XXX-rated movie theaters and porn parlors - it's the
third biggest money-maker online, after e-trading and shopping.  For
better or worse, it's hard to think of a bigger killer app for computing
and software than sexbots.

According to a computing engineer who asked not to be quoted, prototypes
of sexbots already exist in Japan.  "I guarantee you," he e-mailed me,
"that within 25 years, programmable, digital sexbots will be in many, if
not most, American homes and apartments."  The idea of sexbots will be
horrifying to many, for whom the very idea of mechanized, roboticized
human passion is beyond any Orwellian nightmare.

Mary Shelley, who warned in the novel "Frankenstein" about scientists
playing God, and the horrors of unthinking technology, would have
flipped-out over the very idea of sexbots. Yet for some people - the
lonely, the severely handicapped, the isolated - sexbots could be a
great relief and release. And for others - unhappy spouses, troubled
adolescents - digitalized, mechanized sexuality is an open invitation to
addiction or to avoiding problems of face-to-face human contact.
Robotic sex would also eliminate the emotional component of sex. Like
fertility drugs and cloning, this is the kind of technological issue in
urgent need of discussion and consideration, even though history
suggests it won't be thought about much at all in advance. Like the
drugs that give couples the option of having seven or eight children at
once, or the medical technology that prolongs life sometimes beyond
reason, sexbots, will simply be here one day, and we'll be on our own
when they appear.  But sexbots are a techno-prediction that has the ring
of truth.

Writer Joel Snell predicted in l997 (he's quoted in Richard Rhodes new
book Visions of Technology) that robots providing sexual companionship
were likely to see widespread use in the future.  Snell could foresee
the problems. Marriages might be damaged or destroyed if spouses choose
sex with sexbots over making love with their mates. Jealous lovers might
destroy sexbot rivals, or sue manufacturers for emotional damage.  On
the other hand, Snell pointed out, people seeking clarity about their
sexual identities would have a safe, reliable way to experiment.
Heterosexuals might use same-sex sexbots to experiment with
homosexuality or bi-sexuality. Gay people might use other-sex sexbots to
try out heterosexuality. Predators with sexual addictions might
no longer prey on human beings.  Given that people become addicted to
all sorts of pleasures from slot machines to e-mail, sexbot addiction
might be inevitable. Users could become obsessed by their ever-faithful,
willing-to-please sexbot lovers that never say no or get headaches, and

[CTRL] New CFR members.

2000-12-29 Thread Nurev Ind Research

-Caveat Lector-

This is from The John Birch Society. An extreme Right Wing organization.

Nurev


Vol. 17, No. 1
January 1, 2001


Insider Report
New CFR Pick-ups
The elitist Council on Foreign Relations, a private organization
headquartered in New York City, is the nexus (and most visible manifestation)
of America’s globalist Establishment. The organization’s 3,819 members
include the captains and kings of business, finance, government, the
military, and the media.
The latest CFR membership roster, published in its recently released Annual
Report for the year ending June 30, 2000, embraces 207 new regular members
and 103 five-year "term" members (age 34 or younger). Those chosen include:
• Karen J. Alter (term), professor, Department of Political Science,
Northwestern University;
• Mira Radielovic Baratta, former foreign policy adviser to erstwhile senator
(and Republican presidential nominee) Bob Dole (R-Kan.);
• Janet Benshoof, president of the abortionist Center for Reproductive Law
and Policy;
• Ken A. Bode, former moderator of the Public Broadcasting System program
Washington Week in Review;
• John R. Bolton, senior vice president of the American Enterprise Institute;
• Max Boot (term), editorial features (op-ed) editor of The Wall Street
Journal;
• Richard M. Cohen, columnist for the Washington Post;
• Justin Doebele, staff writer for Forbes magazine;
• Wyche Fowler Jr., ambassador to Saudi Arabia, and former Democratic U.S.
senator (Georgia) and U.S. representative;
• James E. Johnson, assistant secretary of the Treasury for Enforcement;
• James L. Jones, Marine Corps commandant;
• U.S. Senator J. Robert Kerrey (D-Neb.);
• Tod Lindberg, editor of the Heritage Foundation’s Policy Review, columnist
for the Washington Times, and regular contributor to The Weekly Standard;
• Herbert I. London, dean of the Gallatin Division of New York University;
• Glenn Cartman Loury, professor of economics at Boston University;
• David R. Malpass, chief international economist for the investment banking
and brokerage firm Bear, Stearns & Company;
• Thomas F. McLarty, chairman of the natural gas company Arkla, Inc. and
former chief of staff and counselor to President Clinton;
• General Joseph Ralston, supreme allied commander, Europe;
• William K. Reilly, former administrator of the Environment Protection
Agency (1989-1993);
• Gideon Rose, Olin senior fellow and deputy director for National Security
Studies at the CFR;
• General Eric Shinseki, U.S. Army chief of staff;
• Jean Kennedy Smith, former ambassador to Ireland (1993-1998);
• Daniel K. Tarullo, senior fellow in U.S. foreign economic policy at the
CFR, and (among other positions during the Clinton administration) former
assistant to the president for International Economic Policy (1997-98); and
• Stephen Jerome Yates (term), senior policy analyst (China) at the Heritage
Foundation.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2001/01-01-2001/insider/vo17no01_ins_cfr.htm

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Re: [CTRL] Hangover Cures From The Land O' Science

2000-12-29 Thread William Shannon
That was meant for another list...as they say on Springer..."MY BAD"...sorry folks!!



Bill.


[CTRL] Hangover Cures From The Land O' Science

2000-12-29 Thread William Shannon
http://www.whitleysworld.com/news122900a.html
12/29/00: HOLIDAY HANGOVER CURES FROM THE LAND OF SCIENCEtext version
Just in time for New Year’s Eve, the London Science Museum has a new exhibit on hangover cures. It turns out that the headache and flu-like feelings are caused by dehydration, despite the fact that you’ve been drinking all night, because alcohol removes precious water from the body’s cells. First: Eat a big meal before the party and eat while you drink. This slows down the rate of alcohol absorption by the body. This works best if the foods you eat contain plenty of fat, so wait until after New Year’s Eve to begin your annual diet. Fat is digested slowly, so it will stay in the stomach and protect it from the irritating effects of alcohol. If you don’t have time to eat a meal, drink a glass of milk before you go.
Second: Take lots of vitamin B6 before and after drinking. This can reduce the severity of a hangover by half, although scientists don’t know why it works.
Third: Stick to white drinks like white wine, vodka and gin, because the fewer additions to the pure spirits, the less chance for a hangover. Substances called congeners that are found in red wine and colored liquors magnify the effects of a hangover. Mixed drinks like Brandy Alexanders are a killer.
Fourth: Have a glass of water between each alcoholic drink, but avoid carbonated sodas because they increase the amount of alcohol that gets into the blood stream. This is why people who stop at a couple of drinks, then stick to soda for the rest of the evening, may find that this strategy doesn’t help. Drinking lots of water along with the alcohol stops your brain from shrinking so much, which is a common side-effect of alcohol consumption.
Fifth: After you get home, drink lots of water and take a vitamin C, which speeds up the metabolism of liquor by the liver. You might also drink a sports drink like Gatorade, which replaces lost electrolytes and body sugars.
Sixth: The next day, if the above preventatives didn’t work, don’t believe the old advice about "the hair of the dog." Drinking more alcohol only puts off the inevitable reactions. Along with the aspirin, take more vitamin C. Eat eggs, because they contain cysteine, a substance that cleans out the destructive chemicals that build up in your liver.
Good luck and Happy New Year!
For more details from BBC Health, click here.






Re: [CTRL] Bush Aide Tells Council on Foreign Relations He Will Attack Columbia.

2000-12-29 Thread T Nohava

-Caveat Lector-

This is getting as bad as the local News at 11. The link on the originator
of this article is a dead one. A search on that site produced two relevant
articles.

1. Bush Team Likely To Escalate US War on Colombians
Breaking News Views for the Progressive Community 2000 Headlines Published
on Wednesday December 27 2000 by the Bush Team Likely To Escalate US War on
Colombians by George Gedda W
Monitor page: URL: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/122700-03.htm

2. Bush Adviser Talks Tough on Colombia
Breaking News Views for the Progressive Community 2000 Headlines Published
on Thursday December 28 2000 in the of London Bush Adviser Talks Tough on
Colombia Aligns the new admini
Monitor page: URL: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/122800-01.htm

> Subject:
>   Bush Aide Tells Council on Foreign Relations He Will
> Attack Colombia :
>   "Drug War" Will Be Excuse Says Advisor ; LSN Staff

The originator of this message had some major toys in his head or just
decided to embellish the article, definitely misleading. Attack
Columbia...yeah right! Then we'll attack Cuba to get Elian back, then Panama
to get the canal back, what's next?




Hmmm...seems this article is no longer on the originator's web site or never
was. The Libertariansocalist website references the Commondreams website as
the originator. A search of Commondreams website produced two articles
relating to the content of the article below but nothing

> -Original Message-
> From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Nurev Ind Research
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 10:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [CTRL] Bush Aide Tells Council on Foreign Relations He Will
> Attack Columbia.
>
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> To understand the Game, you must know the Players.
>
> OK. So who exactly is this asshole?
> He is Bush Adviser Robert B. Zoellick. Zoellick is ex vice president of
> the Federal National Mortgage Association, an under Secretary of State,
> a member of the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, and a former
> director ( and current member )of the Council on Foreign Relations.
>
> This is a fine example of impeccable credentials for the aparatchiks of
> the American Ruling Elite.
>
> Nurev
>
> =
> Subject:
>   Bush Aide Tells Council on Foreign Relations He Will
> Attack Colombia :
>   "Drug War" Will Be Excuse Says Advisor ; LSN Staff
> Date:
>   Fri, 29 Dec 2000 09:55:56 -0500 (EST)
>From:
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   To:
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Bush Aide Tells Council on Foreign Relations He Will Attack Colombia
> "Drug War" Will Be Excuse Says Advisor
>
> Fri Dec 29 09:55:55 2000
> LSN Staff
>
> Washington, DC -- Bush Adviser Robert Zoellick, who is in
> line to become US Trade Representative,
> told the Council on Foreign Relations
> last month that George Bush will attack
> Colombia, according to a news story
> released today by commondreams.org, a
> progressive left-leaning anti-war news
> source.
>
> (http://commondreams.org/headlines/12280
> 0-01.htm)
>
> According to the article Zoellick
> proposed a major policy shift in his
> November 7 speech.  Though the current
> president of Colombia, Andres Pastrana,
> appears on the verge of a peace treaty
> to end the 30-year old civil war,
> Bush's policy will be to break up any
> peace agreement, and aggressively
> pursue a US presence in the South
> America nation.
>
> Under the guise of supporting
> the "forces of democracy", Zoellick
> said the US should fund militia groups
> who have tortured and executed at least
> 4000 non-combatant civilians, and that
> the current policy, of limiting aid to
> anti-drug efforts was misguided,
> because South American who oppose the
> US agenda and drugs were essentially
> the same thing.
>
> The deal is also likely aimed at
> limiting Cuban influence in the
> region.  Cuba is a major player in the
> peace negotiations, and recently
> negotiated the release of 42 Colombian
> soldiers and policement who had been
> taken prisoner by the guerillas.
>
> The Council on Foreign Relations is
> a "think tank" group that believes war
> and government should be used to
> further the interests of big business.
> The incoming Secretary of State, Colin
> Powell, is a prominent member of the
> Council.
>
>
>
> Libertarian Socialist News
> Post Office Box 12244
> Silver Spring, MD 20908
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> major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of t

[CTRL] Fwd: Donald Rumsfeld, Hollow Man : 10 Facts Aboute Defense Secretary Rummy ; ...

2000-12-29 Thread William Shannon





Donald Rumsfeld, Hollow Man
10 Facts Aboute Defense Secretary Rummy

Fri Dec 29 11:57:21 2000
LSN Staff

Washington, DC -- George Bush has named Donald Rumsfeld
as Defense Secretary.  Here are some
background points (correction:
Rumsfeld is a board member of the
Jamestown Foundation):

1)  Rumsfeld is known to friends for
always being politically "safe".  When
asked policy questions, he always
equivocates and never gives a policy
answer.  Some question whether or not
he actually has any opinions.  Despite
that, he has a history of membership in
war-mongering organizations, and is
tied to several major nefarious
corporations.

2)  Rumsfeld is known to friends
as "Rummy".

3)  Rumsfeld is closely tied to
Monsanto, and has been an outspoken
advocate of genetically modified food.

4)  Rumsfeld publicly criticized the
Democrats in 1995 for inviting Jewish-
Russia mafia boss Grigory Loutchansky
to a fundraiser.

5)  Rumsfeld is a board member of an
anti-Soviet group known as the
Jamestown Foundation, which assisted
Russian dissidents in coming to America
in the 1980s, and is now working on
assisting "Russia's transition to a
free-market economy."

6)  Rumsfeld sits on the board of the
Balkan Action Committee.  Fellow board
members include Elie Wiesel, Paul
Wolfowitz, and Richard Perle.  The
board recommended a US ground invasion
of Serbia during the Kosovo
bombardment.  All of the board members,
except Geraldine Ferraro, were involved
in the Committee on the Present Danger,
chaired by Jeane Kirkpatrick, which
promoted US "interventions" in Central
America, Afghanistan, and Angola.  For
those interested in such things, at
least ten of the twenty five board
members are Jewish.  The remainder are
white.

Further research:  Other "Steering
Committee" members include:  Walter
Cronkite, Bianca Jagger, Norman
Podhoretz and George McGovern (wasn't
he a pacifist?).  Of the 56 "Steering
Committee" members,  at least 28 are
Jewish, 28 are white.

7)  Rumsfeld headed a Congressional
Committee that investigated the Bay of
Pigs Invasion and found no CIA
wrongdoing, and is seen by some as a
major advocate in Congress for expanded
CIA powers during the 1960s.

8) Rumsfeld has spoken at "Solidarity
with Israel" dinners hosted by
the "International Fellowship of
Christians and Jews".  Other speakers
have included Jerry Falwell and Pat
Robertson.

>From their website:
"'For Zion's sake I will not keep
silent; and for Jerusalem's sake I will
not rest.' (Isaiah 62:7)

The Fellowship has, over the years,
organized a variety of leadership
programs fostering Christian and Jewish
support for the State of Israel. These
have included tours to Israel with
celebrities like Pat Boone and with
groups like Pat Robertson's CBN, the
National Religious Broadcasters, and a
special trip for Christian media
leaders in the immediate aftermath of
the Gulf War. "

9)  Rumsfeld is a strong advocate of
Missile Defense and has written papers
on the "threats" that China, North
Korea, Syria, Iraq and Iran pose to the
United States and/or Israel through
their missile programs.

10)  Rumsfeld, as a member of
the "Committee for Peace and Security
in the Gulf" has urged US support,
funds, arms and intervention on behalf
of the anti-Hussein opposition in Iraq.
other members of the Committee include
Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Martin
Peretz (publisher of the New Republic),
Casper Weinberger and Paul Wolfowitz.
Of the 38 committee members, at least
17 are Jewish, 21 white.


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[CTRL] Is Jesse for Sale?

2000-12-29 Thread Nurev Ind Research

-Caveat Lector-

> >http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0052/noel.shtml
> >
> >Village Voice
> >
> >December 27 - January 2, 2001
> >
> >Jackson-Watchers Claim Wall Street Contributors Arranged His
> >Phone Call to Bush
> >
> >Is Jesse for Sale?

Is Jesse a professional Elite millionaire with no visible means of support?
Is Jesse a Democrat sheepdog whose job it is to keep the Black sheep in line?
Is Jesse ( unlike M.L.King ) a capitalist? Is Jesse a member of the Council
on Foreign Relations? Is Jesse ( the not so reverend Jackson ) a professional
race hustler, as he is accused by the Right?

If you're answer is no to any of the above, then you are not talking about
Jesse Jackson the Elder.

Joshua2

> >
> >By Peter Noel
> >
> >Downcast Wall Street investors whose fears had been focused
> >on a slowing economy demanded that Reverend Jesse Jackson
> >curtail his blistering attacks on George W. Bush. These
> >financiers arranged the controversial phone call that
> >Jackson made to the "president-select" shortly after Al
> >Gore conceded the race, key business figures told the Voice.
> >
> >Corporate moguls contribute heavily to Jackson's Wall Street
> >Project, an economic-development program intended to persuade
> >New York's financial leaders to steer big-business bucks to
> >minority communities and entrepreneurs. The Project is, in
> >fact, the Wall Street office of Jackson's Rainbow-PUSH
> >Coalition. "These guys on Wall Street aren't Democrats or
> >Republicans -- they're capitalists," says one investor.
> >"When they saw the tide turning, some of Reverend
> >Jackson's top contributors put a call in to him."
> >
> >Jackson did not return Voice calls for comment.
> >
> >Even before the U.S. Supreme Court had ruled in favor of
> >Bush on the night of December 12, Jackson was promising to
> >"take to the streets" with a "civil rights explosion." Prior
> >to his phone call, Jackson had compared the Supreme Court's
> >ruling to the 1857 Dred Scott decision in which the Court
> >declared that blacks, slave or free, did not have the rights
> >of citizens. After the Supreme Court ruling, Jackson said he
> >rejected Bush as the successor to President Clinton "with
> >every bone in my body and every ounce of moral strength in
> >my soul." He also said that "to lose by racial targeting
> >is dishonorable."
> >
> >With Wall Street having factored in a Bush victory, sources
> >in the financial community say, it was only a matter of time
> >before major movers and shakers muzzled Jackson and other
> >Gore loyalists crying thievery. "These contributors told
> >Reverend Jackson, 'You better hold this down because we
> >won't back you anymore if you are adverse to the new
> >administration in Washington,'" a financial insider claims.
> >"They said, 'We certainly can't give you the floor of the
> >New York Stock Exchange and all these other perks if you
> >are out there taking shots at a president we now have to
> >lobby to get what we want.' My understanding is that
> >they told Reverend Jackson, 'You better call Bush.'"
> >
> >The source adds that one business figure also told
> >Jackson he would call Bush "and tell him to take your
> >call." On December 14, Bush took a call from the civil rights
> >leader. They talked about "healing the nation and bringing
> >it together," according to a Bush aide. Bush offered to meet
> >with Jackson "for further discussions on election reform" in
> >the aftermath of allegations that black voters were unfairly
> >treated in some Florida voting precincts. The next day,
> >Jackson, appearing on NBC's Today show, said of Bush: "It
> >is his burden to bring some closure to that [allegation]
> >in some fair and open way."
> >
> >That Jackson could be pressured by Wall Street investors to
> >scale down his rhetoric intrigued a civic leader who is a
> >close associate. "Why would Jesse make the call? Why would
> >Bush accept the call?" he asks. Without confirming that is
> >exactly what happened, this Jackson supporter adds, "There
> >must be somebody who is bigger than both of them to put
> >that together."
> >
> >Some in the black activist community are steaming over
> >Jackson's phone call. They use words like "sellout" and
> >"race merchant" and "two-faced" to describe the nation's
> >best-known civil rights activist. One even asked, "Who's
> >betraying Dr. Martin Luther King?" Jackson, one incensed
> >black leader declares, believes that the civil rights
> >movement marches to his dictates.
> >
> >None of the Congressional Black Caucus members or any
> >civil rights leaders contacted by the Voice was aware
> >that Jackson had planned to talk to Bush. Asserts one
> >exasperated politician: "He didn't touch base with anyone."
> >A source says that Florida congresswoman Corrine Brown was
> >particularly outraged by Jackson's "shameful turnaround,"
> >which seemed to dampen anti-Bush sentiments built up during
> >the postelection crisis. Brown and Jackson had filed a
> >lawsuit claiming 

[CTRL] [Fwd: Clinton Follows the Money - The Nation]

2000-12-29 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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 Original Message 
Subject: Clinton Follows the Money - The Nation
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 22:08:35 -0600 (CST)
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The Nation  December 22, 
2000

Clinton Follows the Money

A few weeks ago, the Democrats' nominee was promising to fight for
"the people against the powerful." Now the election's over, so hold
that talk about "the people" until the next campaign.

by William Greider

The power play was swift, effective and ugly. Within hours of Albert
Gore's concession, Bill Clinton was moving the levers of insider politics to
install his personal money guy, Terry McAuliffe, as the next chairman of
the Democratic National Committee. Mr. Albert is already history because
Mr. Bill intends to run this party for the next four years. That is terrible
news for any hope that the out-of-power Democrats might regenerate
themselves as the party of new ideas and fundamental reforms. Clinton
will defend his checkered legacy and advance his own unspecified
ambitions by dispensing the mother's milk of politics--money--to those
Democrats who adhere to his manipulative, hollow style of leadership.
Think small, act symbolically. Talk reform, but stick with the New
Democrat moneybags on the big economic questions. Among other
things, this move makes a weak joke out of the Democrats' supposed
commitment to campaign finance reform. Indeed, it insures that the
stench of extralegal money scandals that Clinton-McAuliffe generated will
continue to hang over the party. Only now, George Bush's Justice
Department will be in charge of the investigations and may show more
thoroughness than Clinton's has. Has the statute of limitations expired on
the 1996 election and other money schemes connected to McAuliffe?
Democrats must hope so if they allow this guy to become nominal party
leader.
The DNC has not been a meaningful institution for many years--it's a
mail drop for political money, that's all--and normally no one except
insiders should care who's in charge. But Terry McAuliffe is special. This
man has fabulous connections--he reeks of them--but party-building is not
among his talents. He raises big bucks for the Clintons' personal debts
and the presidential library, even offered to put up $1.35 million in earnest
money for their mortgage. He was leading co-engineer of the 1996
fundraising scandals when Clinton blew out the gaskets on the campaign
finance laws, when reformers plausibly argued that the "soft money" law
(not to mention perjury laws) had been violated by the Clinton money
machine. McAuliffe, furthermore, was named in court testimony by a
former DNC finance director as the inside player who repeatedly
promoted an illegal money swap between the Teamsters and party
donors. Teamsters president Ron Carey, the supposed reformer, was
tossed from office, two aides pleaded guilty and a third was convicted.
McAuliffe's ascension should provide good grist for Senator John
McCain's floor speeches on campaign finance reform.
Party leaders and rank-and-file activists should rise up in anger and
reject Clinton's clever ploy, though there is little reason to hope they will
do so. This deal is wired at the top. House minority leader Dick Gephardt
was an usher at McAuliffe's wedding. Democratic Senate leader Tom
Daschle bubbles up with praise. Leaders of organized labor are cozy with
Terry, too. They do union business deals and pension-fund investments
with him (including one Florida real estate project the Labor Department
investigated because, according to the Orlando Sentinel, McAuliffe
realized a $2.4 million profit without investing any money of his own).
Friendship trumps principle, especially when money makes the friends.
If McAuliffe gets the DNC job, he will be a living window on the party's
cynicism. A few weeks ago, its nominee was promising to fight for "the
people against the powerful." The election's over--hold that happy talk
about "the people" until the next campaign.

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[CTRL] How it works: Why corporations buy the Presidency.

2000-12-29 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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12/30/00

Because the President and the Senate choose who heads up the departments
of government with whom they do business.

No matter which candidate wins, our tax money is channeled to companies
who back him.

This is the permanent wealth transfer scheme we exist for. Under Corporate
Capitalism, wealth is drained from the Middle Class and the Working Class,
and transferred to the Rich who own the Military Industrial Complex which
Eisenhower warned us about.

Nurev

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Subject:
  Rumsfeld: Star Wars Booster
Date:
  Fri, 29 Dec 2000 13:51:54 -0600
   From:
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  To:
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Institute for Public Accuracy
915 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045
(202) 347-0020 * http://www.accuracy.org * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
 Friday, December 29, 2000

 Rumsfeld: Star Wars Booster

WILLIAM HARTUNG, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
http://www.worldpolicy.org/projects/arms/reports.html
Senior research fellow at the World Policy Institute and co-author of the
recent report "Tangled Web: The Marketing of Missile Defense, 1994-2000,"
Hartung said today: "Donald Rumsfeld has a reputation as a moderate, dating
back to his days as secretary of defense in the Ford administration in the
mid-1970s, but during the 1990s he has become a darling of right-wing
Republicans and a member in good standing of the Star Wars lobby. As Newt
Gingrich and Trent Lott's handpicked chairman of a congressionally-mandated
commission on Third World ballistic missiles that bore his name, Rumsfeld
grossly exaggerated the ballistic missile threat to the United States posed
by so-called rogue states such as Iran and North Korea. At the same time
that he was providing this allegedly objective assessment of missile
threats, Rumsfeld was a close associate of Frank Gaffney's Center for
Security Policy, a corporate-financed, ideologically driven think tank that
serves as the nerve center of the missile defense lobby. He also served on
the board of Empower America, which ran misleading, pro-Star Wars ads
against Democratic senators who opposed the plan during the 1998 mid-term
elections. Before Rumsfeld is confirmed as secretary of defense, he needs
to answer some tough questions about whether he has the temperament and the
objectivity to be entrusted with decisions about a National Missile Defense
system that could cost hundreds of billions of dollars and spark a new
nuclear arms race in the bargain."

KARL GROSSMAN, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.globenet.free-online.co.uk
Author of the forthcoming "Weapons In Space" and professor of journalism at
the State University of New York/College at Old Westbury, Grossman said
today: "Star Wars has received a huge push with the assumption of power by
the Bush-Cheney administration, intimately linked to corporate interests
committed to expanding space military activities. The goal, as U.S.
military documents state [e.g., http://www.spacecom.af.mil/usspace], is to
have the U.S. 'control space' and from space 'dominate' the Earth below.
That's why, in November 2000, some 160 nations voted in the United Nations
-- the U.S. abstained -- to reaffirm the Outer Space Treaty, the basic
international law on space, enacted in 1967 to keep war out of space. Now
the U.S. would push full-speed-ahead to make space a new arena of war.
Spearheading the drive will be Rumsfeld and Richard Cheney, a former member
of the TRW board. His wife, Lynne Cheney, remains on the Lockheed Martin
board but is on a 'leave of absence.' (Lockheed Martin, the world's biggest
weapons manufacturer, and TRW are major Star Wars contractors -- and have
spent many millions of dollars lobbying for the program.) A main player,
too, will be National Security Council deputy director-designee Stephen J.
Hadley, a Star Wars advocate whose Washington law firm represents Lockheed
Martin. And they will be working from a foreign policy platform put
together at the Republican National Convention by a committee chaired by
Bruce Jackson, vice president for corporate strategy and development at
Lockheed Martin."

For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy:
Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020

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[CTRL] How it's done: CHENEY'S ROLE

2000-12-29 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Subject:
   [Spy News] Dick "Scratch my Back" Cheney
 Date:
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AUDREY'S MISSILES
A weekly newsletter dedicated to the peaceful
reform of the United States government.
CHENEY'S ROLE

 In his farewell address to the nation in 1961,  President Dwight
Eisenhower warned about the dangers of the military industrial
complex.  Eisenhower's warning should have been a wake up call, but America
continued on her complacent path.  With the end of the cold war,  needs for
military equipment should have dwindled, but it didn't happen that
way.  The arms manufacturers just shifted gears and began to redouble their
lobbying efforts.  There was still plenty of trouble in the world, and they
used every means possible to make sure that the U.S. was  involved.  The
money many of the corporations began to make in the drug trade gave them
even greater access to the government, thus exacerbating the problem.  The
deepest (and most easily tapped)  pocket belonged to Uncle Sam.  You just
had to know the right people.

 Dick Cheney, our newly elected Vice President, belongs to that
group of people. He was  Bush Senior's defense secretary and commanded the
Pentagon during the Persian Gulf War.   There he controlled the allocation
of billions in government contract money, and he built relationships,
especially with those who control oil resources (domestic and foreign),
that have helped to put him where he is now.   That is the way the game is
played.  You make sure the "right people" get government favors, and then
when you need campaign money it is there.  This guarantees that you will
keep on giving favors to those people who furnished financial support when
you needed it the most.  In simple language, "You scratch my back, and I'll
scratch yours."

 If we put aside all the speeches, press releases, and other spin
doctor products, we get to the essence of the Cheney philosophy, because
nothing tells more about a man than what he has actually done in the
past.  Cheney served as CEO of  Halliburton from 1995 to 2000.  To
understand Cheney we need to understand  Halliburton and their famous
subsidiary, heavy construction and oil giant, Brown and Root.  Once source
says, (listed below) " A deeper look into history reveals that Brown and
Root's past as well as the past of Dick Cheney himself, connect to the
international drug trade on more than one occasion and in more than one
way."  It is on the record that Cheney supported Oliver North's bid for the
U.S. Senate, even though North had been engaged in the "arms for drugs"
deals in the Bush Administration.   Any reasonably diligent researcher can
find boatloads of information on Papa Bush's CIA drug dealings, from the
Iran Contra affair, the downing of Eugene Hassenfaus's airplane, to the San
Jose Mercury stories (Dark Alliance series) which were true, even though
they were later retracted (no doubt, under heavy pressure).  Cheney is a
man with a history of four (now five) heart attacks; why did they choose
him?   The answer is plain.  Dick Cheney's record at Halliburton is a link
to the drug trade, and the Bush family felt that they could trust him.  An
attorney for a major Russian oil company which has been connected to heroin
smuggling (and also a beneficiary of US backed loans for Brown and Root
contracts in Russia) held a 2.2 million fund raiser for Bush-Cheney.  And
Dick Cheney, as Halliburton's largest individual shareholder ($45.5
million), has a vested interest in seeing to it that Brown and Root's
successes continue.  We know there will be no questions about heroin
smuggling and probably no questions about sales of embargoed oil machinery
to Saddam Hussein,  but will anyone question Dick Cheney about his stock
holdings?
  Some believe that relationships between key institutions, players
and the Bushes themselves suggest that under Bush Junior's administration
the Bush family and its allies may well be able to control the drug trade
all the way from Medellin to Moscow.  Happy New Year!



Sources: (Fourteen links)
http://www.lycos.com/srch/?lpv=1&loc=fromnetscape&src=NETSCAPE&query=Eugene+Ha

ssenfaus
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/cheney1.html
http://www.weeklywire.com/ww/08-28-00/austin_pols_feature2.html
http://www.campaignwatch.org
http://www.weeklywire.com/ww/08-28-00/austin_pols_feature2.html
http://www.l0pht.com/pub/blackcrwl/patriot/north_and_constitution.txt
http://www.osha-slc.gov/OshDoc/CWSA_data/CSA19871229.html
http://www.findarticles.com/m1295/9_64/65014757/p1/article.jhtml
http://www.monitor.net/monitor/0008a/cheneydislike.html
http://www.motherjones.com/news_wire/cheney.html
http://www.foreignpolicy-infocus.org/papers/micr/introduction.html#Figure 1
http://www.l0pht.com/pub/blackcrwl/patriot/north_and_constitution.txt
http://www.foreignpolicy

[CTRL] Prophecy

2000-12-29 Thread Johannes Schmidt III

-Caveat Lector-

I am going to go out on a limb here. My grandmother was 1/8th Romany, and as a result 
I have always had the misfortune to be able to foretell the future.

Here are my prefictions for 2001

The Pope will die of natural causes,
A major city in South America will be devastated by a natural disaster,
There will be war in the Middle East,
There will be terrorist bombings and shootings all over the United States,
The Dalai Lama will become very ill and may die in 2002,
A scandal will result in the removal from the bench of a member of the US Supreme 
Court,
Leonard Peltier, Charles Manson, David Berkopwitz and Timothy McVeigh will not be 
released from prison.
Bill Gates will no longer be the world's richest man,
Christ will not return, but an imitator will.
Terrible forest fires will threaten one of Canada's state capitols,
Secret DNA cloning experiments in the 1970s will come to light in a newspaper expose,
The Russian Government will fall and be replaced with a similar gang of criminals,
Malaysian Prime Minister Mahatir will resign.

Please archive these as they will be irrefutable evidence of my powers when they come 
true.

I will be happy to give personal predictions for an obscene amount of money.

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[CTRL] Bush Aide Tells Council on Foreign Relations He Will Attack Columbia.

2000-12-29 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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To understand the Game, you must know the Players.

OK. So who exactly is this asshole?
He is Bush Adviser Robert B. Zoellick. Zoellick is ex vice president of
the Federal National Mortgage Association, an under Secretary of State,
a member of the Bilderbergers, the Trilateral Commission, and a former
director ( and current member )of the Council on Foreign Relations.

This is a fine example of impeccable credentials for the aparatchiks of
the American Ruling Elite.

Nurev

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  Bush Aide Tells Council on Foreign Relations He Will Attack Colombia :
  "Drug War" Will Be Excuse Says Advisor ; LSN Staff
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Bush Aide Tells Council on Foreign Relations He Will Attack Colombia
"Drug War" Will Be Excuse Says Advisor

Fri Dec 29 09:55:55 2000
LSN Staff

Washington, DC -- Bush Adviser Robert Zoellick, who is in
line to become US Trade Representative,
told the Council on Foreign Relations
last month that George Bush will attack
Colombia, according to a news story
released today by commondreams.org, a
progressive left-leaning anti-war news
source.

(http://commondreams.org/headlines/12280
0-01.htm)

According to the article Zoellick
proposed a major policy shift in his
November 7 speech.  Though the current
president of Colombia, Andres Pastrana,
appears on the verge of a peace treaty
to end the 30-year old civil war,
Bush's policy will be to break up any
peace agreement, and aggressively
pursue a US presence in the South
America nation.

Under the guise of supporting
the "forces of democracy", Zoellick
said the US should fund militia groups
who have tortured and executed at least
4000 non-combatant civilians, and that
the current policy, of limiting aid to
anti-drug efforts was misguided,
because South American who oppose the
US agenda and drugs were essentially
the same thing.

The deal is also likely aimed at
limiting Cuban influence in the
region.  Cuba is a major player in the
peace negotiations, and recently
negotiated the release of 42 Colombian
soldiers and policement who had been
taken prisoner by the guerillas.

The Council on Foreign Relations is
a "think tank" group that believes war
and government should be used to
further the interests of big business.
The incoming Secretary of State, Colin
Powell, is a prominent member of the
Council.



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Re: [CTRL] License to Kill

2000-12-29 Thread Johannes Schmidt III

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I believe there was some serious public debate at the time about whether Negros had 
souls, and this was somewhat of a compromise. And I'm not being fecetious either.

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 20:20:26 -0500 "M.A. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>Nessie
>They did no such thing. Slaves were considered
>three-fifths of a human being.
>MJ
>Bullshit.
>Point to the specific article, section and clause.
>Nessie
>Article 1, Section two of the American
>Constitution:
>  "The House of Representatives shall be composed of
>  Members chosen every second Year by the People of
>  the several States . . .
>  "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned
>  among the several States which may be included within
>  this Union, according to their respective Numbers,
>  which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number
>  of free Persons, including those bound to Service for
>  a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed,
>  three fifths of all other Persons."
>
>MJ
> You confuse a formula for determining Representation with
>  people.
>  Nowhere in the citation YOU provided does it claim that,
>  "Slaves were considered three-fifths of a human being."
>c.
>  so what does it refer to? it is a formula for measuring people and those
>  people are measured at 3/5s of the value of a free person. and the
>  group of people being measured at 3/5s are who?
>
>MJ
>Since you have such trouble with the English language in ALL of
>its simplicity ...
>
>For mathematical purposes ...
>
>The Country has 1300 persons who do not fit the criterion
>listed within the formula. There are 52 Representatives so
>allotted.
>
>State One has 200 persons
>State Two has 160 persons plus 67 persons that fit the description.
>
>State One receives 8 Representatives OR 1 per 25 persons
>State Two receives 8 Representatives OR 1 per 28 persons
>
>Where are people 'measured'?
>Where are 'slaves considered three-fifths of a human being'?
>
>Regard$,
>--MJ
>
>Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.  -- Euripides
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[CTRL] Indians, Slaves, Paupers etc.

2000-12-29 Thread Johannes Schmidt III

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Looking at the Articles of Confederation, the 'first' US Constitution, we find a 
telling sentence.

http://search.britannica.com/frm_redir.jsp?query=articles+of+confederation&redir=http://kuhttp.cc.ukans.edu/carrie/docs/texts/confeder.htm

...the free inhabitants of each of these States, paupers, vagabonds, and fugitives 
from justice excepted, shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of free 
citizens in the several States..

paupers and vagabonds? People of no fixed address or without means? IE The homeless, 
itinerant workers, prisoners, Indians, Blacks and etc. There is nothing new under the 
Sun.

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Re: [CTRL] License to Kill

2000-12-29 Thread Johannes Schmidt III

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I believe they made the same distinction for Indians.

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>> -Caveat Lector-
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>> >It is time to go back to the wisdom of the Founders, who wrote a
>> constitution without reference to ethnic or gender groups. They did so
>> in order to render us equal before the nation's system of law.
>>
>>
>> They did no such thing. Slaves were considered three-fifths of a human
>> being.
>>
>>
>
>That is because the northern non-slaveholding states feared that
>counting them as a whole human being would give the southern
>states too much influence.  This was a compromise position.
>
>
>
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>
>No one can read our Constitution without concluding that the people who wrote it 
>wanted their government severely limited; the
>words "no" and "not" employed in restraint of government power occur 24 times in the 
>first seven articles of the Constitution a
>nd 22 more times in the Bill of Rights. - Edmund A. Opitz
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[CTRL] Interesting Email

2000-12-29 Thread Johannes Schmidt III

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This was forwarded to me recently, while I don't necessarily agree with all the 
soapboxing about how people living in Auschwitz shouldn't be allowed to earn a living, 
the substance is interesting.

Disco Inferno

A recent newspaper article, which I'd assume is from API or UPI, and was buried
on the 18th page of my local paper, totally floored me. I'll quote the title
verbatim : "Investor allowed to open disco near Auschwitz ". Anyone with a
decent knowledge of the WWII era would have to be appalled. For those young
enough to have had high school history courses that skip WWII in favor of, say,
the 1960's civil rights movement, I should point out that Auschwitz was the site
of the most notorious of the Nazi death camps. Approximately 1 million people
were killed there, either by injection of phenol into the heart or by cyanide
gas. Some of the camp buildings and structures have been preserved, more or less
as a memorial to those killed, and as a reminder to future generations of what
happens when goons like Janet Reno are given unchecked power. It is, or was,
unthinkable that anyone would try to exploit the site for commercial profit.

The Polish name for the town is Oswiecim, the name that appears on current
European road maps. The town's administrator is Adam Bilski, who is quoted in
the article about the disco : "One can consider whether it is moral or not, but
that's another matter." Well, duh, I have considered it and I think it sucks.
Just recently I flew to Warsaw on unrelated business ( arranging for the
purchase of surplus small arms and ammunition for my employer ) and wound up
having a few days to kill at the conclusion of the negotiations. I decided to
rent a car and drive to Oswiecim to see whether the club really existed and, if
so, to try to learn more about it. Folks, it is not a pretty picture.

The disco is located in a former tannery that employed slave labor from the
camp. Although the club's Polish name, Dyskoteka Smierc, is on a neon sign on
the roof, what caught my eye was a reproduction wrought iron gate with the
inscription ( in German ) "Arbeit Macht Frei" over the gateway. Knowledgeable
readers will recognize this as the same inscription on the actual front gate to
the death camp which has been preserved all these years. A loose translation is
"Through Work, Freedom". I arrived in the late evening in time for the second
floor show. ( Two floor shows each evening intermix with the usual DJ and public
dancing.) This floor show was the most tasteless display of public obscenity
I've ever witnessed.

The featured "musical" group this evening used the English name "Nat Negritti
and His Nasty Nigger Nazis". I wish I was making this up. The group consisted of
5 extremely faggy black males who wore nothing but crotchless lavender leotards,
Nazi armbands, and SS Officers caps. Between mincing and strutting about the
stage they belted out horribly accurate versions of 1970's disco vomit like
"YMCA" and "Disco Inferno". The latter number included a stage set where
effeminate young Jewish boys ( local talent ? ) were fed into a mock oven by
members of the band. Needless to say, I left early.

Next morning I was moaning about the revolting act to a Polish associate. He
reproached me saying that Americans were the largest investors in the club. I
couldn't believe it, and asked him to get a listing of the investors backing the
club. ( In Poland, a small bribe will buy any government or banking information.
) That afternoon, he gave me a computer printout with 20 or so
corporate/investment group names on it which I had time to glance at on my
flight back to the U.S.

The printout did not list the dollar amounts of the investments, just names and
addresses. All but one were European. The one U.S.entity was T.E.I of Little
Rock, Arkansas. It didn't ring a bell, so I forgot about it for a couple of
weeks. Then I got a tip from a more or less disreputable private investigator
from Arkansas I'd done business with before, telling me I should check out
T.E.I. Well, hold onto your hats. T.E.I. turns out to be Tyson's Entertainment
Investments, an Arkansas company headed by Tyson of Tyson's Chicken fame - the
same puke who made Hillary's cattle futures account blossom illegally. After
much pain and agony I obtained a list of the top 5 shareholders in T.E.I. ( drum
roll ):

1) Donald Tyson

2) Hillary Rodham Clinton

3) Steven Spielberg

4) Barbara Streisand

5) Jesse Jackson, Jr.

Have the Clintons no shame at all ? What would Hillary's N.Y. Jewish
constituents-to-be think of her latest investment ? The other 4 people on the
list are known crooks, moral defectives, and flatulent gasbags, but surely the
N.Y. citizenry deserve more from their future Senator, no ?


George Kranz,
Dachau-on-Hudson, NY


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Re: [CTRL] Zulfikar says, "I told you so"

2000-12-29 Thread PM Kansan1225

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  Illuminated Lies wrote:

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Subject:  Re: Zulfikar says, "I told you so"
From: "illuminatedlies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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One of the first rule of disinformation is to ridicule anyone who have
anything positive and interesting to say. With all the troubles you have
gone through to produce all of these garbage - the man is probably worth
listening to. Your tactic seem so familiar to what is used in so many of the
other newsgroups.

Sending messages using a person's alias and email address! - there should be
a law against that since there are so many loony about with no integrity
whatsoever to determine that it is wrong.

Kansan1225 ignore the loony! Jim Keith was a brillant writer.

  Answer:  Oh, don't worry, I ignore him.  Thank you for your support.


"Kansan1225" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>   Zulfikar had to alert the media.  Captain Zulfikar "Zodiac"
> Zolkoski of the Mosquitoes Police Department (MPD) intended to
> let everyone know the true character of the notorious Dr. K, also
> known as Kansan1225.
>
>   Zodiac called up his pal, CNN's roving correspondent Rhonda
> Schlepper:
>
>   Zulfikar "Zodiac" Zolkoski:  "As-Salaam 'aleykum, ya Rhonda!"
> ("Peace be unto you, oh Rhonda!")
>
>   Rhonda Schlepper:  "Wa 'aleykum as-Salaam, ya Zulfikar!"
> ("And unto you Peace, oh Zulfikar!")  "Eid Mubarak!"  ("Blessed is
> the Feast at the end of Ramadan!")
>
>   Z.Z.Z.:  "Eid Mubarak!  Merhaba!"  ("Hello!")
>
>   R.S.:  "Merhabteyn!"  ("Two hellos!")
>
>   Z.Z.Z.:  "Alf merhaba!"  ("One thousand hellos!")
>
>   R.S.:  "Keyf hal-kom fee Mosquitoes?"  ("How are you all
> doing in Mosquitoes?")  (Mosquitoes:  the Texas metropolis
> formerly known as Houston.)
>
>   Z.Z.Z.  "Kulu tamaam!  Everything is A-OK, except, of course,
> for the matter of the Catholic Protest compound and that trouble-
> maker, the notorious Dr. K."
>
>   R.S.:  "What's up with Kansan1225?"
>
>   Z.Z.Z.:  "As I have told you before, he is continuing on his
> leftist deviationist path.  He is indulging himself in a cult of
> personality of his own creation."
>
>   R.S.:  "I heard that he is capitalizing on the fact that his
> birthday is Christmas Day.  He was born just before the Blue Moon
> of December 1952."
>
>   Z.Z.Z.  "Yes, and he even thinks that the first hydrogen bomb
> explosion in November 1952 was the star in the East that marked
> his birth."
>
>   R.S.:  "Do you think he will claim that Hiram "Hank" Williams,
> Senior's musical talent has been transferred to him, since Hank died
> one week after Kansan's birth?"
>
>   Z.Z.Z.:  "No, he hasn't done that yet, but I will tell you what:
> it's more likely that Joseph Stalin's spirit was transferred to Kansan,
> since Stalin died on March 5, 1953."
>
>   R.S.:  "I can see that.  Stalin was an Orthodox seminarian in his
> youth, studying to be a priest.  That fits with Kansan's religious
> posturing, while using Stalinist methods all along."
>
>   Z.Z.Z.:  "I told you so, he is KGB all the way."
>
>   R.S.:  "Captain, you, as a Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD)
> expert, what do you think of Nikolai Alexandrovich, the self-
> proclaimed Czar Nicholas III?"
>
>   Z.Z.Z.:  "That fraud claims that his father, Alexander, named
> him after the late Czar Nicholas II.  He forgets to mention that his
> father was a minor Communist Party functionary and named him
> after another Nick, after Nikolai Lenin."
>
>   R.S.:  "Well, I'm glad you are on the case, Zodiac.  Lupus will
> be pleased, too."
>
>   Z.Z.Z.:  "I always try to do what is needful.  And how is your
> wonderful husband, Mr. Lupus Blister?  I never miss his show on
> CNN."
>
>   R.S.:  "He is thinking of coming down to Texas to cover the
> transition."
>
>   Z.Z.Z.:  "Acha'"  ("Good.")  (Zulfikar reverted for a moment to
> his mother tongue, Urdu.)  "I hope I can meet him then.  I have
> some more background information for him."
>
>   R.S.:  "What about?"
>
>   Z.Z.Z.:  "I can not go into too many details over the phone, but
> Law Enforcement Officials (LEO) suspect Kansan's involvement in
> the heart attack suffered by Dick Cheney on November 22, the
> anniversary of President Kennedy's death."
>
>   R.S.:  "Wow, he would stop at nothing to make his theories
> come true.  And what about the young Jenna Bush?"
>
>   Z.Z.Z.  "LEO think that Kansan may have cast a spell on her to
> get acute appendicitis on Christmas Day, on this fiend's birthday."
>

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[CTRL] LLF: Podesta's Brother Lobbies for Hillary's Publisher

2000-12-29 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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December 27, 2000


Senator Pat Roberts
Select Committee on Ethics
United States Senate
2200 Hart Office Building
2nd & Constitution Avenue, NE
Washington, D.C.  20510


Re: Ethics Inquiry Involving Hillary Rodham Clinton: Supplemental
Information


Dear Chairman Roberts:


This letter is in furtherance of Landmark Legal Foundation’s
(Landmark) ethics inquiry of December 18, 2000.


In that letter, Landmark raised the likelihood that Senate Rule
37, involving conflicts of interest, may be violated by
Senator-elect Hillary Rodham Clinton’s $8 million book deal
inasmuch as Mrs. Clinton’s publisher – Simon & Schuster -- is a
subsidiary of Viacom, Inc.  (Viacom).


Landmark has since learned that Viacom employs several lobbyists
to advance its interests in communications, copyrights, patents
and trademarks, including: Ann Delory, Kimber Fritts, Matthew
Gelman, Charles Hansen, Claudia Jones, Andrew Littman and Anthony
Podesta. Clearly Viacom frequently has numerous interests before
Congress and federal agencies.


Anthony Podesta, a Viacom lobbyist, is the brother of John
Podesta, Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton.  The fact that
Mrs. Clinton’s $8 million book advance from a Viacom subsidiary
is far in excess of publishing industry norms, and that the
Clintons have a unique relationship with the Podestas, raises
questions about the special nature of this book deal under Senate
Rule 36.


Rule 36 provides that limits on outside earned income do not
include “copyright royalties or their functional equivalents from
the use or sale of copyright, patent, and similar forms of
intellectual property rights, when received from established
users or purchasers of those rights pursuant to usual and
customary contractual terms.”


This information underscores the need for the Senate Select
Committee on Ethics (Committee) to examine Mrs.  Clinton’s book
deal. Moreover, Landmark repeats its request that the Committee
make public the means by which it will ensure that Mrs.  Clinton
does not act on legislation that may benefit Viacom or any of its
business entities in violation of Rule 37.


Sincerely,


Mark R. Levin President


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Re: [CTRL] Remembering President Clinton

2000-12-29 Thread kl

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On 29 Dec 2000, at 19:01, Bill Richer wrote:

> -Caveat Lector-
>
>
> No question that Bill Clinton had brains and charisma and a big
> opportunity to make this country a better place. For lack of a better
> phrase, he blew it.
>
>

I think this will be his legacy:  He exposed the hypocrisy of the
radical feminists.

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[CTRL] Bush Names Four to New Team

2000-12-29 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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12/29/00

Does anyone have a recent CFR membership list? From 1998 on.
If so, or if you know where to get a reliable one, could you
please post to list.

With this list, you can look for Bush's appointees' names. My guess is
that 50 - 80% of the key jobs are CFR, or a related Think Tank.

Joshua2
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> Bush Names Four to New Team
> Friday, December 29, 2000
>
> George W. Bush nominated four new members of his Cabinet on Friday, filling
> slots in the Education, Interior, Health and Human Services, and Veterans
> Affairs departments.
>
> Jeff Mitchell/Reuters
>
> Friday: Tommy Thompson speaks after Bush announced four additions to his
> Cabinet. Bush also announced appointments (pictured from his left) of Rod
> Paige, Gale Norton and Anthony Principi.
>
> Houston schools chief Rod Paige will serve as education secretary; former
> Colorado Attorney General Gale Norton will take over at Interior; Wisconsin
> Gov. Tommy Thompson will helm HHS; and Anthony Principi will lead Veterans
> Affairs.
>
> Bush has three remaining Cabinet posts to fill, which he said he hopes to do
> by the end of next week. They include secretaries for the departments of
> Energy, Labor and Transportation.
>
> Bush announced his Cabinet nominees at a short Washington ceremony before
> flying back to Austin, Texas, for the holiday weekend.
>
> Education: Bush described Paige, widely credited with creating one of the
> country's best urban school districts, as a "reformer, and someone who had a
> record of results, who understands that it's important to set the highest of
> high standards."
>
> Test scores and academic performance improved under Paige's tenure as
> superintendent of the 90 percent-minority Houston Independent School
> District, the largest district in Texas and seventh-largest in the nation.
>
> Paige said he will expand on the work he and Bush have done in Texas. "The
> bottom line is this: When we set high standards for our schools and our
> children, and when we give our schools and our children the support they need
> and hold them accountable for results, public education can get the job
> done," he said.
>
> Interior: Norton, 46, previously served in President Reagan's Interior
> Department, where she worked to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, a
> key item on the Bush agenda that has drawn fire from environmentalists.
>
> She served two terms as Colorado attorney general and was barred by state law
> from running for re-election in 1998. One of her major accomplishments in
> that office was negotiating the national tobacco settlement.
>
> AP/Wide World
>
> Friday: Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson is credited with a decline in the
> state's welfare case load.
>
> Norton said she will work with all levels of government to protect natural
> resources.
>
> "An entire one-third of our land is owned by the federal government," she
> said. "Together with the other departments that own that land, the Department
> of the Interior faces the challenge of seeing that our land is used in an
> environmentally responsible way."
>
> Health and Human Services: Once confirmed, Thompson, 59, would head one of
> the government's largest departments, which includes the Food and Drug
> Administration, Medicare and Medicaid health insurance programs, and the Head
> Start program for children. As well, it provides financial assistance to
> low-income families.
>
> Thompson is credited with lowering the number of people on welfare in his
> state. Since he was first elected governor in 1986, the number of welfare
> families in Wisconsin has fallen from more than 98,000 to just over 16,000.
>
> David Zalubowski/AP
>
> Friday: Former Colorado Attorney General Gale Norton, nominated for interior
> secretary, previously served in that department in the Reagan administration.
>
> He pledged to make similar progress nationally on such social issues as
> health-care reform, opportunities for the disabled and "helping the poor find
> work and helping the working-poor find rewards in their efforts."
>
> "These are all tough issues," Thompson said, "but solving tough issues is why
> I got into this business, and I know it is why President-elect Bush sought
> this job and why he traversed such a grueling road to get the opportunity to
> lead this great nation."
>
> The Planned Parenthood Federation of America immediately announced that it
> would strongly oppose Thompson's confirmation.
>
> Veterans Affairs: Bush said Principi, a decorated Vietnam War veteran, will
> modernize the veterans' health care system "so all our veterans are treated
> with dignity."
>
> "Tony understands that one of our goals will be to make sure that claims will
> be processed faster," he said.
>
> Principi said the country must make sure its military personnel are provided
> for.
>
> "America now reaps the frui

[CTRL] Remembering President Clinton

2000-12-29 Thread Bill Richer

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Remembering President Clinton

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© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

First of all, Merry Christmas to all WorldNetDaily readers. Thanks for taking
the time this year to read my musings. Right now with George W. Bush warming
up in the bullpen, a description he would like, some in the media are
beginning to analyze Bill Clinton's eight years in office. Alas, I am one of
those.
As some of you know from watching my television program "The O'Reilly
Factor," Mr. Clinton is not my favorite guy. But not for the reasons he and
others of the Democratic persuasion think. You see, I want my president to be
a problem solver and to put the folks ahead of his own self in the pecking
order of life. Let's take a look at the record regarding President Clinton.

As far as the economy is concerned Mr. Clinton did a good job managing it up
until this year when he went into the tank and stopped governing. The
president said not a word when OPEC slowed down production, and that action
is going to cause us a mini-recession in 2001. Since Mr. Clinton had no
energy policy to fall back on, the OPEC production cut and subsequent higher
oil prices were a disaster for working Americans and corporate profits. The
reason the president did not aggressively fight the OPEC action is that he
desperately wanted Arab cooperation in a Middle East peace deal, and he was
too busy raising money for the Democratic Party and himself to pay close
attention to macroeconomics. Mr. Clinton knew that any recession in 2001 was
going be somebody else's problem.

Thus the champion of the phrase "it's the economy, stupid," leaves the
American people with a very shaky and somewhat stupid economy, and it did not
have to be that way.

The situation points up what I believe is Mr. Clinton's biggest fault -- he's
selfish. The presidency was all about him, not us. He is quoted as saying he
doesn't know how history will treat him but no one had more fun in office
than he did. Swell. I'm glad he had so much fun. That's where I want my tax
dollars to go -- fun for the president. Are you getting the picture here?

If not, here are a few more things that offended me about President Clinton.
He spent lavishly on himself and his family to travel the world, and many of
those trips were little more than fabulous junkets. I know some of the people
who went on them -- no expense was spared. We're back to fun again.

Mr. Clinton also did nothing about the drug problem in America, the illegal
immigrant problem on the southern border, high health costs, poor public
school education and a deteriorating military. I repeat -- he did nothing
about those problems in eight years. In fact some of them got worse.

The president fiddled while America's airline industry fell apart. He
appointed the incredibly incompetent Rodney Slater as Transportation
Secretary. Mr. Slater ran up huge expenses while doing nada.

And we all know about the nuclear secrets debacle and the campaign finance
illegalities. Also, I hope you have noticed that I did not mention Monica
Lewinsky one time.

On the plus side, Mr. Clinton cut the welfare rolls, increased home ownership
in America, kept inflation under control by balancing the budget and kept
crime down by effective use of block federal grants to local law enforcement
agencies.

But the American worker got slaughtered under Mr. Clinton, even if Joe and
Betty America don't really know it. Taxes are the highest since World War II
and individual spending depletes almost all personal income. In other words,
many American workers are living paycheck to paycheck. And those paychecks
are no longer secure.

So I believe Mr. Clinton did little of lasting importance. Nobody is going to
remember the go-go economy of the '90s 30 years from now. But after eight
years of Mr. Clinton, our kids still face a rampant narcotics infestation,
sky-high medical costs, poor public education, a wobbly Social Security
system and a jaded social outlook where about half the population feels it is
quite OK to lie under oath if you're talking about sex.

No question that Bill Clinton had brains and charisma and a big opportunity
to make this country a better place. For lack of a better phrase, he blew it.




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Re: [CTRL] NYT: Clinton Names a Black Judge; Skirts Congress

2000-12-29 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Well one more thing you see how Clinton plays the "race card" yet behind
blacks back he is alleged to have used term "nigger"this is to
appease white voters who say - well you see he feels as you do and I
do..

As Hiliary called this one man a jew bastard was it.so people know
she does not really like jews and this too confuses a voter.all this
after kissing an Arab on the cheek?

Keeping in mind of course it was Gore and Clinton who were behind Black
Panthers who stalked Mrs Bush who had Uzis..and Jesse Jackson who
threated to crea mayhem and violence in the streets  as they once did in
Cleveland where 4 young white policemen were killed by a fruit cake who
believed white man blue eyed devil, and followed astrologer (for he was
of the tribe of Gad - according to bible, the Overcomers).

Why isn't Jesse Jackson in jail charged with inciting to riot?
Blackmail - threatening to loose a force against this
country..Jackson is guilty of sedition...any white man would
have been arrested for making such public statements

Any militia member would have been arrested for sedition.

So I wonder - inasmuch as he had already nominated this man to the bench
- did he violate any laws or rules by not withdrawing the nominantion
first?

Seems Clinton and Gore want to unlease a violent mob against white
America so as George Bush warned - keep your powder dry.

Maybe somebody will file charges against Jackson for sedition for this
is exactly the proper charge to file.

Give us Barabas - wasn't he too charged with sedition and was he not a
murderer?   Inciting to riot?   But who paid the price.

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] NYT: Clinton Names a Black Judge; Skirts Congress

2000-12-29 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Now this man was nominated by Clinton in June of 2000 - and Charles Robb
on his web site pushed to get him into hoffice.

I am wondering inasmuch as this man was already nominated how Clinton
can pull this of now - wouldn't he have had to withdraw he nomination he
previously made in order to now by pass all legal requirements?   I
always hated Robert Rules of Order - but something is wrong here.

Robb married Linda Johnson the daugher of former Presidient Lyndon
Johnson but he just GOT BEAT..

I am not familiar with this stuff but supposedly it was felt a judge was
not needed - be big waste of taxpayers money - this man has personal
vested interests in federal funding if he is in this renovation thing
for Richmond.

It seems the only reason he was nominated by Clinton, was the man is
black.

Clinton seems to be very color conscience but why is this post which has
remained open for ten years, suddenly so important..maybe Clinton
needs a friend on the bench - but the Supreme Court would have last say
in matter.

Saba

Date of this item is June of 2000...



FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE JUNE 30, 2000
ROBB APPLAUDS PRESIDENT CLINTON'S NOMINATION OF RICHMOND'S ROGER GREGORY
TO THE FOURTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS

Washington, DC – Senator Chuck Robb (D-VA) today announced that
President Clinton has nominated Roger Gregory of Richmond, Virginia for
a seat on the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Senator Robb worked closely with the White House in identifying
candidates and strongly supported the nomination of Roger Gregory. Mr.
Gregory's nomination has garnered bipartisan support in the Senate and
his confirmation is expected to move swiftly.
"President Clinton has chosen a highly respected lawyer who would bring
impressive trial experience to the appellate bench," Senator Robb said.
"I am very proud to support his nomination."
"Roger Gregory is a highly visible member of the legal community in
Richmond and beyond,"
Robb said. "Mr. Gregory has a proven commitment to the judicial process,
in addition to having a strong background as a community leader in both
education and civic organizations." Robb continued, "Roger Gregory will
make a great addition to the United States judicial system and the U.S.
Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit."
Gregory spent about two years with the Richmond firm of Hunton &
Williams before starting his own law practice. Currently, Gregory is
both managing partner of the firm Wilder & Gregory, and head of the
firm's litigation section.
Gregory, a former President of the Old Dominion Bar Association and
Rector at Virginia Commonwealth University, is currently a member of the
Fourth Circuit Judicial Conference, and serves on the Board of the
Richmond Bar Association, the Virginia Association of Defense Attorneys,
and the Central Virginia Legal Aid Society. Additionally,

###
he is heavily involved in the Renaissance Executive Committee, a
partnership dedicated to revitalizing downtown Richmond.

Saba note:  federal money here?   A Partnership
Lots of big bucks here or do we have another Holy Man?
##

Gregory received his undergraduate degree from Virginia State
University, summa cum laude, in 1975. He received his J.D. from the
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[CTRL] Bush Names Four to New Team

2000-12-29 Thread Bill Richer

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Bush Names Four to New Team
Friday, December 29, 2000


George W. Bush nominated four new members of his Cabinet on Friday, filling
slots in the Education, Interior, Health and Human Services, and Veterans
Affairs departments.


Jeff Mitchell/Reuters

Friday: Tommy Thompson speaks after Bush announced four additions to his
Cabinet. Bush also announced appointments (pictured from his left) of Rod
Paige, Gale Norton and Anthony Principi.



Houston schools chief Rod Paige will serve as education secretary; former
Colorado Attorney General Gale Norton will take over at Interior; Wisconsin
Gov. Tommy Thompson will helm HHS; and Anthony Principi will lead Veterans
Affairs.


Bush has three remaining Cabinet posts to fill, which he said he hopes to do
by the end of next week. They include secretaries for the departments of
Energy, Labor and Transportation.

Bush announced his Cabinet nominees at a short Washington ceremony before
flying back to Austin, Texas, for the holiday weekend.

Education: Bush described Paige, widely credited with creating one of the
country's best urban school districts, as a "reformer, and someone who had a
record of results, who understands that it's important to set the highest of
high standards."

Test scores and academic performance improved under Paige's tenure as
superintendent of the 90 percent-minority Houston Independent School
District, the largest district in Texas and seventh-largest in the nation.

Paige said he will expand on the work he and Bush have done in Texas. "The
bottom line is this: When we set high standards for our schools and our
children, and when we give our schools and our children the support they need
and hold them accountable for results, public education can get the job
done," he said.

Interior: Norton, 46, previously served in President Reagan's Interior
Department, where she worked to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, a
key item on the Bush agenda that has drawn fire from environmentalists.

She served two terms as Colorado attorney general and was barred by state law
from running for re-election in 1998. One of her major accomplishments in
that office was negotiating the national tobacco settlement.


AP/Wide World

Friday: Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson is credited with a decline in the
state's welfare case load.


Norton said she will work with all levels of government to protect natural
resources.

"An entire one-third of our land is owned by the federal government," she
said. "Together with the other departments that own that land, the Department
of the Interior faces the challenge of seeing that our land is used in an
environmentally responsible way."

Health and Human Services: Once confirmed, Thompson, 59, would head one of
the government's largest departments, which includes the Food and Drug
Administration, Medicare and Medicaid health insurance programs, and the Head
Start program for children. As well, it provides financial assistance to
low-income families.

Thompson is credited with lowering the number of people on welfare in his
state. Since he was first elected governor in 1986, the number of welfare
families in Wisconsin has fallen from more than 98,000 to just over 16,000.



David Zalubowski/AP

Friday: Former Colorado Attorney General Gale Norton, nominated for interior
secretary, previously served in that department in the Reagan administration.


He pledged to make similar progress nationally on such social issues as
health-care reform, opportunities for the disabled and "helping the poor find
work and helping the working-poor find rewards in their efforts."

"These are all tough issues," Thompson said, "but solving tough issues is why
I got into this business, and I know it is why President-elect Bush sought
this job and why he traversed such a grueling road to get the opportunity to
lead this great nation."

The Planned Parenthood Federation of America immediately announced that it
would strongly oppose Thompson's confirmation.

Veterans Affairs: Bush said Principi, a decorated Vietnam War veteran, will
modernize the veterans' health care system "so all our veterans are treated
with dignity."

"Tony understands that one of our goals will be to make sure that claims will
be processed faster," he said.

Principi said the country must make sure its military personnel are provided
for.

"America now reaps the fruit of the service of 24 million veterans," he said.
"However, their service imposes upon us a reciprocal obligation. The
president-elect has charged me with the mission of transforming that
obligation into the benefits and services earned by generations of veterans."

— The Associated Press contributed to this report



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[CTRL] INDIA AND RUSSIA SIGN $3bn FIGHTER JET CONTRACT

2000-12-29 Thread Bill Richer

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INDIA AND RUSSIA SIGN $3bn FIGHTER JET CONTRACT

22:02 Thursday 28 December 2000

Russia and India have signed a $3 billion contract for India to produce a
leading-edge Russian jet fighter under licence, the largest single arms
contract ever signed between the two countries.

The contract calls for Russia's Irkutsk Aviation enterprise to help India's
Hindustan Aeronautics produce 140 Su-30MKI jets over the next 17 years.

The slender, twin-engine aircraft is a multi-role fighter that Russia began
design work on in 1991, and first demonstrated at an airshow in 1994.

The aircraft is noteworthy for a unique design feature that allows the
nozzles of the two jet engines to swivel, giving the pilot another method to
control the plane along with flaps.

In demonstration flights, pilots have flown the aircraft through graceful
loops and brought it to a near standstill in the air using the swivel jets,
showing a degree of maneuverability unusual for a supersonic aircraft.

Dating back to Soviet times, India has purchased copious supplies of weapons
from Russia, including large weapons systems such as submarines and surface
ships. India has already purchased Su-30 MKI jets from Russia and equipped
them with avionics and weapons systems from other countries.




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[CTRL] U.S. discovers uranium being channeled from Ukraine to Iraq, Iran

2000-12-29 Thread Bill Richer

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U.S. discovers uranium being channeled from Ukraine to Iraq, Iran

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM

Thursday, December 28, 2000
LONDON — The United States is trying to block the flow of uranium from
Ukraine to Iraq and Iran, a prominent Arab daily said.

The London-based A-Sharq Al Awsat daily reported on Wednesday that the United
States is monitoring what the newspaper termed a channel of uranium and
plutonium from Ukraine to Iraq and Iran. The flow of the nuclear material is
said to be passing through Bulgaria and Turkey.

The newspaper said the United States was informed of the channel after the
arrest by Bulgarian authorities of a Turkish national identified as Hani
Yukazan. Yukazan was said to have been in possession of nuclear equipment
when he was arrested on May 29.

Later, the suspect was said to have provided details of the flow of uranium
from Ukraine through Bulgaria and to Iraq.

A Bulgarian source told the newspaper that weapons grade material produced in
Russia was found by custom authorities.

The United States and Bulgaria have been cooperating in stopping the flow of
uranium, plutonium and other nuclear material from the former Soviet Union
through eastern and central Europe. The newspaper said Washington has sent
experts from top U.S. laboratories to examine the seized material in Bulgaria.

The flow of uranium through Bulgaria was a leading topic on the agenda of CIA
director George Tenet during his visit to Sofia in August. The CIA has warned
that Iraq, in the absence of United Nations inspectors, is believed to have
resumed its nuclear weapons and missile programs.

For their part, Bulgarian officials have acknowledged that the country is
being used as a route for the flow of uranium to Middle East countries.


Thursday, December 28, 2000



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[CTRL] U.S. Worried About Russian Plans to Sell Arms to Iran

2000-12-29 Thread Bill Richer

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Thursday December 28 5:33 PM ET
U.S. Worried About Russian Plans to Sell Arms to Iran

By Elaine Monaghan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States said on Thursday it was very worried
about reports Russia was planning to sell arms to Iran, saying they would
pose a threat to its interests in the Middle East.

``We are particularly disturbed by Russian press accounts that we've seen
today of Defense Minister (Igor) Sergeyev's discussions with the Iranians
which suggest that Russia is ready to sell Iran missiles, submarines and
other equipment,'' State Department spokesman Philip Reeker told a news
briefing.

The U.S. embassy in Moscow will seek an opportunity to clarify Russia's
intent ``sooner rather than later,'' another State Department official said,
just hours after Sergeyev and his Iranian counterpart agreed in Tehran on
broad, long-term military cooperation.

They also declared a 1995 Russia-U.S. deal that prevented Moscow from selling
Iran conventional arms effectively dead.

Such sales would ``clearly place the national security interests of the
United States, its allies and friends in the region at risk,'' said Reeker.

On Wednesday, Sergeyev said in Tehran that Moscow would honor its
international agreements and any arms sales would not ''prejudice a third
country''.

Russian officials have also offered assurances that any arms sales would be
``defensive'' in nature, mostly spares for Soviet-era equipment.

Reeker did not specify which Russian media reports he was referring to and
administration officials say they have not yet had a chance to seek
clarification about them from Moscow.

But Reeker said, ``It's not sufficient for Russia to simply call this type of
equipment, quote, ``defensive.'' Some of the equipment reportedly being
discussed ... would pose a serious threat.''

Bush Seen Tougher On Russia

As President-elect George W. Bush (news - web sites) prepares to take office,
U.S. officials have pointed out to Moscow the inconsistency in their
relations, with solid coordination on the Middle East peace process but mixed
signals on Iran, U.S. officials say.

The United States views with suspicion any sales of military technology to
Iran, which it sees as a destabilizing influence because of its stance on the
peace process, nuclear activities and backing for anti-Western ``terrorist''
groups.

Iran denies Washington's assertion it has an active nuclear arms program and
says all work in that field is for peaceful purposes such as power generation.

Worries in Washington about Russia's stance on Iran are heightened because of
Russia's withdrawal from the pact struck by Vice President Al Gore (news -
web sites) and former Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin not to sell
conventional arms to Iran.

Bush is expected to take a tougher line with Moscow than President Clinton
(news - web sites)'s administration did earlier in the post-Soviet years.

But even before Bush was declared president, U.S. officials were warning of
possible sanctions against Moscow if arms sales to Iran went ahead.

``This is something, obviously, we will watch very closely and continue to
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[CTRL] Question of secret influence continues to haunt Vatican

2000-12-29 Thread Kelly

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http://www.spiritdaily.com/cabal.htm

Question of secret influence continues to haunt Vatican

by Michael H. Brown

   The notion that a secret cabal of men intent on controlling or
even destroying the Church has established itself at key positions in
the Vatican is again gaining currency with a hotly controversial book
that's about to hit the U.S. after some officials of the Church sought
to have it banned.

   The book, Shroud of Secrecy, was written by a group of purported
prelates and insiders who have remained anonymous except for a former
official named Monsignor Luigi Marinelli, who for years worked in the
Vatican department of the Congregation of Eastern Churches and who died
last October.

   The fact that the others are anonymous gives me pause, leaving
little chance of analyzing motives and verifying some of the claims.
Moreover, there should be a wariness with conspiracy theories: it's
always exciting to imagine great intrigue.

   But the allegations are serious enough to warrant further
investigation, and what the authors claim is dramatic indeed: that the
Vatican's bureaucracy has been contaminated by careerism, homosexuality,
and outright corruption. They also indicate influence by a "Masonic"
element that has installed a group of cardinals known as the "Emilia
Romagna group," which according to an archconservative Catholic
newspaper, The Wanderer, includes cardinals who have served as officials
in congregations or delegations dealing with foreign affairs, education,
and even consecrated life.

   "A comparison of various papal yearbooks over the last twenty
years would reveal the overwhelming influence the Church has endured at
the hands of harmful conniving people," asserts the book, which is being
distributed by an organization called Roman Catholic Faithful in
Petersburg, Illinois. "With this kind of ruling influence, the ways of
the Lord are few, and the followers of those with power adorn all of the
curial ministries with their presence. They are almost all either
members of the gang from Piacenza or from Emilia Romagna, whose names,
even as simply priests, appeared twenty years ago on the Masonic list"
-- a reference to a list of more than a hundred names published in the
1980s after a Vatican banking scandal.

   The Masons are a cult based on medieval occultism (and even
further back on Egyptian rituals). It is the claim of Shroud of Secrecy
that Church officials with Masonic leanings have not only influenced
financial and state decisions but also the appointments of bishops. They
claim that at least a hundred cardinals, bishops, and monsignors belong
to the "Ecclesia Lodge," which has close ties to a Masonic lodge in
England.

   The Masons have long been the bane of the Vatican. In 1884 Pope
Leo XIII wrote an encyclical warning of their danger, and there have
been rumblings of their influence at the Vatican itself since the
pontificate of Pius IX. In one case the authors claim the files of
Cardinal Edouard Gagnon (at the time a monsignor) were burgled and his
report stolen after he had completed an investigation of the Curia.

   Although no proof has ever been established, there have even been
speculation that a secret element was behind the untimely death of Pope
John Paul I, who died in 1978 after just a month on the Throne of Peter
and who had expressed an intent to clean up the Vatican.

   Whether or not the Masons are directly involved, for years there
has been concern that a small group of liberals and modernists have
sought to undermine Church traditions. In distributing the book the RCF
describes it as "a sizzling account of intrigue, homosexuality, and
corruption within the Vatican bureaucracy."

   Once more, we have to warn that this is a controversial view that
needs far more scrutiny. Indeed, some Vatican officials have sought to
have the book, known in Italy as Gone With the Wind in the Vatican,
banned.

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[CTRL] Chris O'Brien: SLV: Fall 2000 Reports (fwd)

2000-12-29 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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0100,0100,0100Arial NarrowCurrent 
Report # 646

Reported Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) Sightings, Abductions,
Unusual Animal Death reports (UAD), Unexplained Occurrences and
Suspected Military Activity


Greater San Luis Valley CO-NM

Including Colorado Counties:

Saguache, Alamosa, Conejos, Costilla, Rio Grande, Huerfano, Custer, Chaffee,
Fremont

New Mexico Counties:

Taos, Rio Arribas, Mora, Colfax

with Date, Time, Location, County, Vallee' Classification, Type of Report,
(Investigator(s), Type of EVIDENCE, media coverage) SAME 
DAY/NIGHT and
Monotype SortsèArial Narrowtmv 
subjective highlights.  Suspected Unexplained phenomena, UFO sighting
dates / times and UAD discovery dates in BOLD Suspected military activity 
in
ITALICS.  Regional reports listed when concurrent SLV activity.
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223 Crestone, CO USA81131]

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Re: [CTRL] gun control

2000-12-29 Thread mirage

-Caveat Lector-

Good one Nessie!  I completely agree.  When well-meaning, law-abiding citizens
relinquish gun rights they are not ridding society of the 'evils' of guns, but
aiding and abetting the evil guns are capable of, as well as their own increased
vulnerability.Statistics available from the Australian government
demonstrate the rise in rates of violent crime, burglary and robbery since the
populace has been disarmed.  Below is a timely article about this very subject.
 ~ M
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http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/363/oped/What_we_can_do_after_Wakefield+.shtml

What we can do after Wakefield

By John R. Lott Jr., 12/28/2000

WITH A GUNMAN'S attack that killed seven people at a Wakefield Internet company
on Tuesday, the question is simple:  What can be done to stop similar shootings
in the future?

For many the answer is more government regulation. The creation of gun-free
zones, waiting periods, background checks, and safe storage regulations are just a
few of the laws typically proposed. Yet, Massachusetts already has these
restrictions and many more.

Surely the intentions of these laws are noble. The goal of preventing concealed
handguns or creating gun-free zones is to protect people. But what might appear
to be the most obvious policy may actually cost lives.

When gun control laws are passed, it is law-abiding citizens, not would-be
criminals, who obey them. Unfortunately, the police cannot be everywhere, so
these laws risk creating situations in which the good guys cannot defend
themselves from the bad ones.

This point was driven home to me when I received an e-mail from a friend
recently, telling me that he had just dropped off his kids at a public school and
outside the school was a sign that said ''This is a gun-free zone.'' I couldn't help
think, if I put up a sign on my home that said, ''This home is a gun-free zone,''
would it make it more attractive or less attractive to criminals entering my home
and attacking myself or my family?

While horrible crimes like the one in Wakefield get the attention they deserve,
rarely mentioned are the many attacks that are stopped by citizens who are able
to defend themselves. About two million times a year people use guns
defensively. Few realize that some of the public school shootings were stopped
by citizens with guns.

For example, in the first public shooting spree at a high school, in Pearl, Miss.,
in October 1997 that left two dead, an assistant principal retrieved a gun from
his car and physically immobilized the shooter for more than five minutes before
police arrived.

A school-related shooting in Edinboro, Pa., in spring 1998 that left one dead,
was stopped after a bystander pointed a shotgun at the shooter when he started to
reload his gun. The police did not arrive for another 11 minutes.

But anecdotal stories cannot resolve this debate. A study at the University of
Chicago by a colleague and myself compiled data on all of the multiple-victim
public shootings that occurred in the United States from 1977 to 1999. Included
were incidents in which at least two people were killed or injured in a public
place; to focus on the type of shooting seen in Wakefield, we excluded gang
wars or shootings that were the byproduct of another crime, such as robbery.
The United States averaged more than 20 such shootings annually, with an
average of 1.5 people killed and 2.5 wounded in each one.

So what can stop these attacks? We have examined a range of different gun laws,
such as waiting periods, as well the frequency and level of punishment.
However, while arrest and conviction rates, prison sentences, and the death
penalty reduce murders generally, they do not consistently deter public
shootings.

The reason is simple: Those who commit these crimes usually die. They are
either killed in the attack or commit suicide. The normal penalties rarely apply.

To be effective, policies must deal with what motivates these criminals, which is
to kill and injure as many people as possible. Some appear to do it for the
publicity, which is itself related to the amount of harm they inflict.

The best way to stop these attacks is to enact policies that can limit the carnage.
We found only one policy that effectively accomplishes this: the passage of
right-to-carry laws.

With Michigan's adoption this month, 32 states now give adults the right to carry
concealed handguns as long as they do not have a criminal record or a history of
significant mental illness. When states passed such laws during the 23 years we
studied, the number of multiple-victim public shootings declined by a dramatic
67 percent. Deaths and injuries from these shootings fell on average by 78
percent.

To the extent that attacks still occur in states after these laws are enacted, they
disproportionately occur in areas in which concealed handguns are forbidden.
The people who get these permits are extremely law-abiding and rarely lose their
permits for any reason. Without

[CTRL] JW: CLINTON PLANS TO STAY AT WHITE HOUSE COMPLEX DURING BUSH PRESIDENCY

2000-12-29 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

-Caveat Lector-

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
December 29, 2000
Contact: Press Office
(202) 646-5172

CLINTON PLANS TO STAY AT WHITE HOUSE COMPLEX DURING BUSH
PRESIDENCY

Judicial Watch Sources: Clinton To Use White House Complex
Townhouse After He Leaves Presidency - Set to Use Jackson Place
Townhouse Teddy Roosevelt Used

Seeks to Improperly Use White House Resources to Fund
Post-Presidency Operation


(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch has learned through sources that
Bill Clinton is seeking improperly to use White House funds to
help pay to set up office space in government townhouses across
the street from the White House. Clinton plans, according to
sources, to use the space for his post- presidency offices. The
space, part of the White House complex, is in a Jackson Place
townhouse once used by Teddy Roosevelt after he left the
presidency.  Normally, such offices are for the use of the
current administration, and not for the use of a past
administration. In other words, according to Judicial Watch's
sources, Clinton is trying to ensconce himself in White House
complex offices that normally would be used by the incoming Bush
Administration.

According to these sources, Clinton is trying to use White House
funds, rather than lawful funds designated for his
post-presidency, to pay for key aspects of his White House
complex offices. (Normally, an ex- president uses private office
space after he leaves the White House.)

Judicial Watch's sources on this story are well-placed and have
proved reliable in the past.

"In essence, Bill Clinton has no intention of leaving the White
House after his term ends. He seems intent to set up a shadow
presidency within the White House complex itself. His improper
plan to use White House resources to further his scheme is
outright theft of government property. Even in the waning days of
his regime, Clinton's lawlessness continues," stated Judicial
Watch President Tom Fitton.

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[CTRL] NYT: Clinton Names a Black Judge; Skirts Congress

2000-12-29 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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http://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/28/politics/28JUDG.html

December 28, 2000

Clinton Names a Black Judge; Skirts Congress

By NEIL A. LEWIS
New York Times


WASHINGTON, Dec. 27 ó Skirting Republican opposition to his
judicial choices, President Clinton today appointed the first
black judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth
Circuit in Richmond, Va. It was a move not only of historical
significance but one also carefully calculated to create
political difficulties for the Republican Party.

By using his power to make appointments during congressional
recesses to name Roger Gregory to the appeals court, Mr. Clinton
was able to bypass the Senate confirmation process temporarily.
As he made the appointment, Mr. Clinton complained about how
Republicans had blocked his efforts to nominate an
African-American to the long-vacant seat on the Fourth Circuit.

The circuit court covers five mid- Atlantic states and has a
greater percentage of black citizens than the other 10 regional
circuit courts, yet it is the only court never to have had a
black member.

"It is unconscionable that the Fourth Circuit has never had an
African-American appellate judge," the president said in an Oval
Office ceremony. "It is long past time to right that wrong.
Justice may be blind, but we all know that diversity in the
courts, as in all aspects of society, sharpens our vision and
makes us a stronger nation."

In naming Mr. Gregory, a corporate lawyer from Richmond to the
post, Mr. Clinton followed a long line of historical precedents.
The last time a president named a judge as a recess appointee was
in 1980, but the practice has been used many times to integrate
the federal bench.

William H. Hastie, the first black named to the federal bench,
was a recess appointment to a federal appeals court in
Philadelphia by President Harry S. Truman in 1949. Others who
became judges as recess appointees included Thurgood Marshall,
who went on to become the first black justice on the Supreme
Court, and A. Leon Higginbotham, who later became the chief judge
of the Third Circuit in Philadelphia.

But while the president's action resonates with this history, it
is also a highly confrontational political act in today's
circumstances.

White House officials and other Democrats said that they thought
Mr. Clinton's action was especially politically astute because it
could put the Republicans on the defensive on the issue of race
as President-elect George W. Bush tries to put together a new
administration.

Although the process by which senators block presidential
nominations is partly secret, Senator Jesse Helms, Republican of
North Carolina, is widely viewed as the main figure in foiling
Mr. Clinton's efforts to name a black to the Fourth Circuit.
Eddie Woodhouse, a spokesman for Mr. Helms, said today that the
senator had no comment.

But Senator John Ashcroft, Mr. Bush's choice to be attorney
general, has blocked at least one other black judicial nominee,
and Democrats have already said it would be an issue in his
confirmation hearings. White House officials said that the
planning for the appointment of Mr. Gregory was under way before
the Mr. Bush announced his plan to make Mr. Ashcroft attorney
general.

By naming Mr. Gregory as a recess appointee, Mr. Clinton assures
he will serve until at least the end of the first session of the
next Congress, which will probably be next October or November,
unless he is confirmed by the full Senate for life.

But White House officials and Democrats in the Senate say they
have made an intricate plan to press the issue publicly and
embarrass the Republican majority in the Senate by nominating Mr.
Gregory formally after the new Senate is sworn in Jan. 3.

That move by Mr. Clinton is especially confrontational as it
seems to rely on the highly unusual circumstance in which the
Democrats will control the Senate briefly from Jan. 3 to Jan. 20.

The Senate through that time will be evenly divided 50 to 50 and
Al Gore will still be vice president and thus able to break any
ties until he is replaced on Jan. 20 by Dick Cheney.

But even in that extraordinary window of Democratic control, the
Republicans will maintain their control of the Judiciary
Committee, which usually has to vote to send nominations to the
full Senate.

Nonetheless, it will provide an opportunity for Democrats to
discomfit the Republicans on the issue of race, an issue Mr.
Clinton suggested today.

"I have tried for five years to put an African-American on the
Fourth Circuit ó for five years," Mr. Clinton said as he
presented Mr. Gregory before reporters. "I think it is most
unfortunate that it has not been done, and I just determined to
do it. It's just time to do it."

Elaine Jones, the director of the NAACP Legal Defense and
Educational Fund Inc. said Mr. Clinton had been unable to name a
black to the Fourth Circuit because "the senior senator from
North Carolina, Mr. Helms, has seen to it that the nominations
langu

[CTRL] S&B 1890, BAYARD, Thomas Francis, Jr (1868-1942) Biography

2000-12-29 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=B000252
Click Here: http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=B000252">
BAYARD, Thomas Francis, Jr (1868-1942) Biograph…
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BAYARD, Thomas Francis, Jr, 1868-1942

Years of Service: 1922-1929
Party: Democrat

Library of Congress
BAYARD, Thomas Francis, Jr,  son of Thomas Francis Bayard, Sr., and grandson
of James Asheton Bayard, Jr., a Senator from Delaware; born in Wilmington,
Del., June 4, 1868; attended the common schools of Wilmington and St. Paul’s
School, Concord, N.H.; was graduated from Yale University in 1890; was a
student at the Yale Law School in 1890 and 1891; was admitted to the Delaware
bar in 1893 and commenced practice in Wilmington; moved to New York City, and
was appointed an assistant corporation counsel in 1897; practiced law in New
York until September 1901, when he returned to Wilmington, Del., to practice
law; served as chairman of the Democratic State committee 1906-1916;
solicitor of the city of Wilmington 1917-1919; elected on November 7, 1922,
as a Democrat to the United States Senate to fill the vacancy caused by the
resignation of Josiah O. Wolcott; on the same day was also elected for the
full term commencing March 4, 1923, and served from November 8, 1922, to
March 3, 1929; unsuccessful candidate for reelection in 1928; resumed the
practice of law in Wilmington, Del.; unsuccessful Democratic candidate for
election to the United States Senate in 1930; died in Wilmington, Del., July
12, 1942; interment in Old Swedes Cemetery.
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[CTRL] Genealogies of the presidents of the USA

2000-12-29 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Click Here: http://users.legacyfamilytree.com/USPresidents/Index.htm">Genealogies
of the presidents of the USA
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Genealogy of the presidents of the USA
Welcome to the site with the genealogy of all the presidents of the USA
Click the picture of the president to see his family



George Washington
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Re: [CTRL] Environmental warfare, Chossudovsky

2000-12-29 Thread mirage

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Much of my research the last 3 years has been devoted to the 'chemtrails'
mystery.  You may already know about Ed Teller's 'band-aid' proposal to stop or
slow global warming; a relatively (monetarily) inexpensive method to deny and
further delay the need to switch to or invest in repressed alternative energy
sources while allowing 'bizness as usual' for the petroleum industry and its
dependent industries.  However, I believe that this is only one of the
explanations for the ubiquitious artificial clouds we in the US and other NATO
countries have witnessed for the last few years.  I also believe other programs
involving aeriel spraying are and have been in operation concurrently, each
providing 'cover' for the others.  And since these are black or grey projects,
biowarfare experimentation on the environment and populations can easily be
confused with efforts to create a 1% 'sunscreen' to reduce global warming, even
by those who are involved in one of the projects.  So I do believe that Teller's
'sunscreen' project has been ongoing along with other programs that are
undermining the health and wellbeing of the ecosystem and animal and human
populations.

There's been constant dissemination of chemtrails over the Pacific ocean,
largely unseen by populations on land.  After spraying over and off the
California coast temperatures drop 10 or 15 degrees.  If this offshore spraying
is an attempt at blocking 1% of the sun's warmth, it certainly would cool the
temperatures of the ocean.  If the ocean temperature is cooled the moisture will
not have the energy of heat, characteristic of Summer ocean temperatures, to
lift and propel moisture inland, at least very far inland.  So in the Summer,
moisture masses seem to now stop at the Rockies rather than continuing to the
East Coast, which is why I believe that there have been droughts in states east
of the Rockies.

Could this be an unfortunate consequence with Teller's 'band-aid' approach to
global warming or is it a more sinister attempt to engineer weather to create
crop failure thereby giving more control and power to the multinational
corporations who want to alter, patent and own all food crop seeds?  Clinton
recently recommended that our nation get out of the agriculture business and use
the 3rd world nations for our source of foods, which certainly ties in.

HAARP also may be used in conjunction with the artificial cloud cover, bouncing
a frequency signal off them for reasons I do not have the expertise to even
speculate about.  But it would be very naive to think that weather experiments
are not taking place.  If nothing else, if moisture levels are lower than
normal, then the interaction/interrelationship between ground and atmospheric
energies (frequencies) are changed and 'normal' weather will be destabilized.
Everything in manifestation here is a function of frequency and its relationship
with other frequencies.

When necessary resources, such as water and food, of this normally bountiful
continent become scarce, the potential for total social control will be
realized.  The food and seed corporations such as Monsanto are well-positioned
for the part they are to play in the planned corporate totalitarian coup of
Humanity.

On a more positive level, I have reason to believe that people can play a large
part in moderating the frequencies that they are a part of by association of
their location as well as globally.  People are not as helpless as they believe
—we have largely undiscovered individual and collective abilities, but that's
another story and one which must be assessed not by the intellect alone, but by
a combination of logic, heart and soul which constitutes an integrated form of
intelligence.  We have seen some proofs of what collective intention can
accomplish as witnessed by the experiments of intentional prayer and meditation
done over the air on the Art Bell Show.

What has been discouraged, ridiculed and hidden from us is information that
validates our potential power, our abilities to interact intentionally on a
quantum level, replaced by paradigms that fortify and encourage our dependence
and helplessness — psychically, spiritually, psychologically and materially.  An
escalation of individual and collective consciousness and acceptance of this
responsibility is the key to victory over the planned, reptilian-brained,
engineered 'hive' society of the future.  IMHO

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Re: [CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Fw: Environmental

2000-12-29 Thread Eagle 1

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Amelia said
>>I cannot help but wonder if we are being HAARP'ed!<<

Have you considered the possibility of it (the weather)
just being an "act of God"?  Or perhaps the simple solution,
an "act of nature"...

The earth was created with it's own resillience to certain cause and
effects...  perhaps we are reaping what we've long sowed in the earth.

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Subject: [CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Fw: Environmental warfare, Chossudovsky


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> June,
> First we had a weekend of 35 mph sustained winds.  Next the killer
> tornadoes.  Now we have had 5 ice/snow events in 10 days.  I cannot help
but
> wonder if we are being HAARP'ed!  Clinton tried for years to have our
local
> weather station shut down in retaliation for Sen Shelby's "defection" to
the
> Republican party.  He also moved as many NASA jobs to Texas as he could
for
> the same reason but the weather station is the only one that can cover
this
> area because of the elevation and mountains.  We are not covered by either
> Birmingham or Nashville for some weather events.  The only ski resort in
the
> entire State is actually open. Cajuns on skis!  What fun! Then the ice in
> the Southern plains.  This is such extreme and drastic weather for this
> region.  We are also entering the fourth year of a drought and have had
the
> hottest summers on record.  Not the best time for me to start a commercial
> greenhouse & nursery. :)
>
> What I wonder is IF this is "modified" weather, is it "us" practicing or
> "them" inflicting harm.  Or is it just "Mother Nature" having mood swings?
> And we have more ice/snow forecast for tonight!  The temperatures are far
> below normal, killing all sorts of vegetation which can sustain a couple
of
> bitterly cold nights but not two weeks of it.  Things like young pecan
trees
> and fruit trees under 4 yrs old will die.
>
> Granted, it could be just natural variation but when I read about weather
> modification and climate change, I really wonder.  Post or send me
anything
> new on HAARP even if it feeds my paranoia.
> Amelia
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 8:51 PM
> Subject: [CTRL] Fw: Environmental warfare, Chossudovsky
> >
> > > Environmental warfare, Chossudovsky, 2000
> > > The Americans and the Russians have developed capabilities to
manipulate
> the
> > > World's climate.
> > > Dr. Rosalie Bertell confirms that "US military scientists are working
on
> > > weather systems as a potential weapon."
> > >
>
>

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Re: [CTRL] New rules on the horizon

2000-12-29 Thread Eagle 1

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Thanks for the article, kl.
A reflection of the true heart of the liberal aka: "Democrats", and what
they've become.  Kennedy should be turning in his grave.

Shame on the Republicans, tho'...  for not buckling up and calling a spade a
spade aka:  Democratic voter fraud.  Shame on the Democrats who tried to
bait and switch the blame on to the Republicans.  Though the truth be known,
most will never accept it.

eagle 1

"And because I tell you the truth,  ye believe me not."
~John 8:45  (KJV)


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Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 8:36 AM
Subject: [CTRL] New rules on the horizon


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> http://www.townhall.com/columnists/paulcraigroberts/pcr20001227.
> shtml
>
> December 27, 2000
>
> New rules on the horizon
>
> 2001 arrives without the manned
>  space flights to Jupiter and Saturn envisioned by Stanley Kubrick
> and Arthur C. Clarke. The U.S. space program was a casualty of
> the end of the Cold War. Could the next casualty be American
> constitutional democracy now that we no longer have a foreign
> opponent to unify us?
>
> The last election revealed a country split not only geographically
> between urbanized areas with large minority populations and the
> rest of the country, but also between those committed to the
> constitutional process and those who believe the ends justify the
> means.
>
> This fissure is not a split over policy issues, such as whether to
> privatize Social Security, cut tax rates or build a missile defense
> system. The country is divided by the Democrats' claim that their
> party's causes are so moral as to place them above the
> Constitution. When one party sees its causes so imbued with
> morality as to justify any action to retain power, constitutionalism
> is dead.
>
> Much has been written about the challenges to the Florida vote,
> and readers grew tired of it before the real lesson was learned. The
> important point is not that the judiciary decided the presidential
> election. The vital fact is that the Supreme Court had to deal with
> the astonishing claim that the election of Al Gore was so important
> that Democrats were entitled to revote already cast ballots until
> Gore won.
>
> Democrats demanded a revote, not in counties that Gore lost but in
> counties he carried. In the close election Democrats saw an
> opportunity to reinterpret spoiled ballots and ballots that did not
> mark a choice for president as votes for Al Gore. There were similar
> ballots in every county in the United States, but the revote game
> was only to be played by Democrats in three Florida counties.
> There was no evidence of vote fraud, except on the part of
> Democrats. The attempt to revote was clearly a violation of Florida
> law and the U.S. Constitution. To deflect attention from this highly
> visible exercise in vote fraud, Democrats conducted a defamatory
> campaign, alleging that blacks had been intimidated (in counties
> controlled by Democrats) and that ballots (designed by Democrats)
> were deceptive and confused the elderly.
>
> In a country with a nonpartisan media, such a visible attempt to
> steal an election would have been mercilessly exposed. But
> Democrats knew the media would serve as the propaganda arm of
> their party. Eight years of Bill Clinton have made clear that the
> media judges politicians by their stand on "the issues," not by their
> behavior. A stolen election is OK if it is stolen for the right causes.
> Consequently, the media served as an amplifier for lies and
> defamation. One result is that blacks believe they were
> disenfranchised despite hard evidence that a larger percentage of
> blacks voted than whites.
>
> Certain of the media's support, Democrats turned for help to the
> Democratic Florida Supreme Court. This court actively participated
> in the vote fraud. Without authority, cause or legal reason, the
> court ignored the state's election rules and U.S. Constitution to
> order a continuation of the revote. The Florida Supreme Court
> agreed with the media that Gore's election justified the raw use of
> power.
>
> Although checked at the last moment by the U.S. Supreme Court,
> this blatant use of power to steal an election evoked no shame or
> remorse in Democrats. Democrats have passed beyond that.
> Democrats are liberated from constitutional process by the sanctity
> of their ends. This is the important change.
>
> The Democrats almost succeeded in stealing the election.
> Republicans found themselves so much on the defensive that they
> were afraid to call vote fraud by its own name. Instead, Republicans
> argued the legal and constitutional case for the existing rules and
> were accused of using technicalities to frustrate the will of the
> people.
>
> In a word, Republicans uncharacteristically stood up to the
> Democrats' power play but acquiesced in the pretense that the
> issue to be resolved was contending interpretations o

[CTRL] William Graham Sumner S&B 1863 US Political Thought, Lecture 12"

2000-12-29 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.bartleby.com/65/su/Sumner-W.html
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Sumner, William Graham


1840–1910, American sociologist and political economist, b. Paterson, N.J.,
grad. Yale, 1863, and studied in Germany, in Switzerland, and at Oxford. He
was ordained an Episcopal minister and from 1872 was professor of political
and social science at Yale. In economics he advocated a policy of extreme
laissez-faire, strongly opposing any government measures that he thought
interfered with the natural economics of trade. As a sociologist he did
valuable work in charting the evolution of human customs—folkways and mores.
He concluded that the power of these forces, developed in the course of human
evolution, rendered useless any attempts at social reform. He also originated
the concept of ethnocentrism, a term now commonly used, to designate
attitudes of superiority about one’s own group in comparison with others. His
major work was Folkways (1907). The massive Science of Society by Sumner and
Albert G. Keller, a colleague, was not completed and published until 1927 (4
vol.; Vol. IV by Sumner, Keller, and M. R. Davie).  1

See H. E. Starr, William Graham Sumner (1925); A. G. Keller, Reminiscences
(Mainly Personal) of William Graham Sumner (1933); W. G. Green, Sumner Today
(1940, repr. 1971); R. G. McCloskey, American Conservatism in the Age of
Enterprise (1951, repr. 1964); M. R. Davie, William Graham Sumner (1963).   2
The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. Copyright © 2000 Columbia
University Press.
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from:
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~jboland/lect_12.html
Click Here: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~jboland/lect_12.html">US
Political Thought, Lecture 12
-
U.S. Political Thought


Lecture 12



November 9, 1995
Joseph Boland

Outline


Announcements and Reminders *   Readings for the next Tuesday, read Dewey,
Addams and Debs.

*   See posted notes on Herbert Croly’s The Promise of American Life.




Lecture Outline *   William Graham Sumner -- Social Darwinism and ne
o-liberalism in defense of laissez-faire capitalism
*   Introduction -- Social Darwinism in Sumner
*   Elements of Sumner’s doctrine
*   The minimal state
*   Glorification of economically acquisitive individualism
*   the desirability of large fortunes
*   denigration of workerS

*   Repudiation of republicanism



William Graham Sumner-- Social Darwinism and neo-liberalism in defense of
laissez-faire capitalism

Sumner sought to justify the new socio-economic order by marrying Social
Darwinism with a liberalism almost exclusively concerned with the
economically acquisitive individual. Social Darwinism was an application of
Darwin’s ideas of natural selection and biological evolution to human
societies. Its proponents were bent on naturalizing the social conditions of
the period, particularly those conditions which aroused the greatest
controversy and conflict--the rapid growth of an impoverished working class,
the huge gulf that had opened up between rich and poor, and the often filthy
and disorganized conditions in the burgeoning industrial cities. Social
Darwinists like Sumner argued that social existence was a competitive
struggle among individuals possessing different natural capacities and
traits. Overall, those with better traits succeeded, becoming wealthy and
powerful, while those lacking in inner discipline or intelligence sank into
poverty. Thus the very conditions that reformers decried were, to Sumner,
indications that society was functioning as it should. Government must not
interfere to ameliorate conditions because this would only result in the
preservation of bad traits even while penalizing those who possessed good
ones. Thus social evolution was best served by a minimal state. Social
Darwinism eliminated any sense of moral obligation to the poor or (as we see
in Sumner) to virtually anyone else beyond one’s family.
Social Darwinism has been criticized on many grounds, two of which I’ll
mention here. First, it lacked an ability to conceptualize the structural
dynamics of the industrialization process. Such things as the emergence of
new classes or the tendency toward economic concentration and limitation of
competition cannot be accounted for by Social Darwinism. Nor is this
blindness accidental. To give prominence to structural factors would undercut
the Social Darwinist emphasis on individual attributes and action as causes
of social conditions and of the individual’s sole responsibility for his or
condition.
Second, human societies have developed--for better and for worse--by applying
human ingenuity to the design of tools and of ways of organizing work and
concerted action generally. Hence human societies are certainly not natural.
In fact, Locke, the philosopher usually cited as the originator of
liberalism, argued that human governments were not natural but conventional.
If the economies, technologies, and institutions of human societies are
pro

Re: [CTRL] WT: Youths remain lit up

2000-12-29 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Yet it is okay for the Democrat Party to have Michael Jackson,
pedophile, roming on the stage with the children - and lesbian Rosie
O'Donnel appearing with Sesame Street characters and adopting children -
oh the love of the children - it is the children they worry about..

The health of the children - so how about AIDS?   That creep Michael
Jackson lost his nose with some of this stuff he took.

Clinton has HIV it is said - and presumably Mrs. Clinton might be
affected.
And we worry so about the children and yet look at the role models?

See the garbage on television - and have you noticed in all the movies
now we see movie actors smoking - even Arnold Schwartnegger who had a
heart attack - wonder what happended to his shoulders, for he has none?

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[CTRL] WT: Youths remain lit up

2000-12-29 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Washington Times-December 28, 2000

Youths remain lit up

Pete du Pont

 A lasting legacy of the Clinton administration will be its
legal battle against the nation's four largest tobacco companies.
As with almost all of his other "legacies," it is unlikely to
garner rave reviews from future historians.

 In late 1998, shortly after 46 states settled their
differences with Big Tobacco in a $206 billion agreement, Mr.
Clinton decided to get the federal government a slice of the
lucrative action.

 He threw down the gauntlet in his 1999 State of the Union
speech, asking the Justice Department to claim damages against
Big Tobacco under three federal statutes. As Mr. Clinton leaves
office, however, it is worth asking if there has been a winner.

 The Master Settlement Agreement reached with those 46 states
forced onerous concessions from the nation's four big tobacco
companies — Philip Morris, Brown and William son, R.J. Reynolds
and Lorillard. To their credit, they have fulfilled their end of
the bargain, and then some.

 First, the companies were required to pay $206 billion over
25 years to the states, including an upfront payment of nearly
$13 billion through 2003 and $9 billion each year after.

 In addition, the MSA banned the sale and distribution of
apparel and merchandise with cigarette brand logos. No more
tobacco brand names at stadiums and arenas. Restrictions were
extended on outdoor advertising. No free samples are allowed
except at adult-only facilities. They even limited the size of a
pack of cigarettes.

 My personal favorite, though, is the ban on cartoon
characters in cigarette advertising. For the common link in all
legal action against the tobacco industry, you see, is kids. The
states, the Justice Department and the Clinton administration
claim one unifying goal: Stop kids from smoking.

 If the overarching goal of litigation against Big Tobacco is
to save our children from the unhealthy effects of smoking by
breaking the industry, the four largest U.S. tobacco companies
sure don't look like losers.

 RJR will report a growth rate of more than 32 percent for
the year 2000, Lorillard projects almost 42 percent. Brown and
Williamson forecasts 19 percent and change.

 Speaking of change, the National Association of Convenience
Stores reports cigarettes continue to account for nearly 30
percent of all in-store purchases.

 In addition, the U.S. tobacco industry generated annual
trade surpluses totaling more than $50 billion for the decade
ending in 1999, according to the Tobacco Merchants Association.

 Of course, tobacco's 1999 surplus contribution of nearly $4
billion was the best since 1988. Then there's the stock market.

 R.J. Reynolds and Lorillard Tobacco are trading at 52-week
highs, and Brown and Williamson and Philip Morris contribute
heavily to large margins reported by their parent companies.

 So much for crippling the tobacco industry. But there's
always the settlement money. The stated purpose of those payments
was to educate kids against smoking.

 A tally last year by the National Conference of State
Legislatures shows some of the money has been distributed for
health-care services and children's programs, but a lot of it
also has been spent on private lawyers who helped negotiate the
MSA.

 Recent word comes from North Carolina that several
legislators there want to use part of an estimated $4.6 billion
in settlement money to patch holes in the state's budget.

 In California, Orange County supervisors are challenging the
constitutionality of a measure mandating that most of the
county's $750 million in settlement money be spent on
health-care. They want to use it to pay off the county's debts.

 So what about the kids? The latest count we could find (for
1999) shows less than 10 percent of tobacco settlement funds are
actually being spent to keep kids from smoking.

 The latest figures from the Centers for Disease Control show
the percentage of eighth-, tenth- and 12th-grade students who
smoke daily hasn't changed much in the past 20 years.

 Eighth- and 10th-grade usage is down slightly, and
12th-grade usage is up slightly, but the difference from rates in
the 1990s shows little statistical significance.

 While America's big four tobacco companies report record
share prices, almost 1 in 4 American 12th-graders claims to smoke
cigarettes daily.

 Perhaps they're rebelling against the nonstop nagging of
federal nannies and sniffian groups like the Campaign for
Tobacco-Free Kids.

 So who is winning the Clinton administration's war against
tobacco? Only the lawyers. Celebrity ones like Dickie Scruggs and
David Boies, sitting on top of huge tobacco windfalls, are filing
class-actions against HMOs — a move they themselves concede will
result in dramatic increases in health-care premiums for most
Americans.

 The Scruggs, the Boies and their cohorts already have walk

[CTRL] IRNA: Russia dumps Gore-Chernomydrin agreement

2000-12-29 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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hr 003

Iran-Russia-Sergeyev  /POL/

Sergeyev: Russia to forge long-term cooperation with Iran

Tehran, Dec 28, IRNA -- Russian President Vladimir Putin's
diplomacy gives a special status to independent states and
expansion of ties with them and because of this, Russia is
pursuing long-term cooperation with Iran, announced the visiting
Russian Defense Minister Igor Sergeyev here Wednesday evening.

In a meeting with the Secretary of the Supreme National Security
Council Hassan Rowhani, the visiting Russian minister said that
Russia is unilaterally and formally withdrawing from the 1995
Gore-Chernomydrin agreement which bans military cooperation
between Iran and Russia.

Sergeyev stressed that no country outside the region should
intervene in settlement of the issues concerning regional states
because it would be threat to regional stability and security.

He said political understanding and cooperation at highest level
would serve as a basis for cooperation in the economic, security
and military fields.

Rowhani said that Iran welcomes Russian Government's new policies
on expansion of cooperation with the independent states. Russia's
new foreign policy is deserving of a powerful country like
Russia, he said.

The top SNSC official said that mutual interests, especially
security and stability in the region, serve as the basis for
bilateral cooperation.

The Caspian Sea, said Rowhani, should remain non-military as well
as the sea of peace and stability, without intervention of
countries outside the region.

He further called on Russia to adopt due policies to find a
political solution to the problems in northern Caucasus,
especially Chechnya. He said that Iran is ready to contribute to
the issues.

Rowhani said Muslim nations of the region expect Russia to play
more active role in the developments in the Middle East and
support its `traditional friends'.

He said support for the oppressed Palestinian nation is the human
duty of all countries.

The two sides also stressed the need to step up serious campaign
against narcotic drugs and terrorism, and preparation of ground
for a successful visit of President Mohammad Khatami to Russia
and the drawing up of comprehensive plans for mutual cooperation.

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Re: [CTRL] Boy Scouts

2000-12-29 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Jayson R. Jones wrote:

> This Pro Boy Scout spam also showed up on the archaeology list I am a
> denizen of (SUB-ARCH, a specialized list for Underwater Archaeology).  It
> met with criticisms because it was out of place on that, or any other
> professional list.  Our individual personal feelings on the matter were
> beside the point.  The effect of the Boy Scout ban has had NO DISCERNABLE
> EFFECT on Archaeology.

Your not a gay archeologgist, huh?  I bet you might se it a tad
differently if you were.


 It is an internal issue for the Boy Scouts to
> deal with.  It is up to those who contribute to the Boy Scouts to
> evaluate how the decision to ban gays affects them, and decide for them
> selves whether to continue to contribute money.  Personally, I think the
> Boy Scouts made a decision that they had every right to make.


Like I said


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[CTRL] Fwd: Bush/Moon/CNP

2000-12-29 Thread Kris Millegan





Columbus Free Press

Bush moons America
by Bob Fitrakis, April 01, 2000

Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush ‹ the son of former CIA
Director George Herbert Walker Bush ‹ found himself in trouble and faltering
after his New Hampshire defeat to Senator John McCain. A shadowy, secretive
and spooky network centered around right wing religious organizations and
causes rushed to his rescue in South Carolina.
At the crux of this network is the Council for National Policy (CNP) founded
in 1981 by the Rev. Tim LaHaye and T. Cullen Davis, members of the
ultra-right John Birch Society with financial backing from Nelson Bunker
Hunt. Currently, the clandestine CNP has over 500 members and serves as the
Who¹s Who network of the United States¹ right wing. At the center of the
CNP, with a seemingly endless supply of questionable cash, is
self-proclaimed Messiah and mind control cult leader Rev. Sun Myung Moon.
Ron Godwin, Senior Vice President of the Moon-owned Washington Times, and
Robert Grant, President of Moon-affiliated American Freedom Coalition (AFC),
are CNP members. The main function of the Moon organization seems to be
providing media propaganda and financially propping up failing right wing
organizations. In the mid-1980¹s when New Right direct mail king Richard
Viguerie fell into debt, Moon¹s Unification Church bought his building for
ten million dollars. Viguerie served on the Board of the AFC and has done
mailings for that organization and the Washington Times. When the Rev. Jerry
Falwell fell on hard times, once again, it was the Moonies to the rescue.
Moon has reportedly lost a billion dollars in the 1980¹s and 90¹s operating
the Washington Times. In 1992, a PBS Frontline investigative report claimed
that a key money source for Rev. Moon¹s far-flung world financial empire was
Ryoichi Sasakawa, the self-proclaimed ³world¹s richest fascist² who died in
1995. At the time of his death, Sasakawa administered a ³charitable
foundation² taking in nearly $24 billion a year from a monopoly on legalized
gambling in Japan. 
Sasakawa was one of Japan¹s foremost fascists in the 1930¹s. He modeled his
own private army of 15,000 men and 20 warplanes after Mussolini¹s Black
Shirts. After the World War II, Sasakawa, a classified Class A war criminal,
awaited death in a military prison before suddenly being released by General
Douglas McArthur. Also released with Sasakawa was leading Japanese organized
crime syndicate leader Yoshio Kodama of the Yakuza.
The Japanese News Service KYODO released documents linking Sasakawa to U.S.
military intelligence. Declassified documents link Kodama¹s release to the
CIA. Both Kodama and Sasakawa played a key role in the rise of the Moon
organization. In 1977, Congressman Donald Fraser launched an investigation
into the Moonie organization. The 444-page Congressional report alleged
Moonie involvement in arms sales, bribery, bank fraud and illegal kickbacks.
Not surprisingly, the report suggested that Moon¹s Unification Church was a
tool of the Korean Central Intelligence Agency (KCIA) and was being used to
influence U.S. foreign and domestic policy. The U.S. CIA created the Korean
KCIA and also established the ties between Sasakawa, Kodama and Moon.
Moon, a Korean, and his two Japanese buddies, first joined forces in the
1960¹s to form the Asian people¹s Anti-Communist League with the aid of KCIA
agents and allegedly financed by Japanese Yakuza money. In 1964, League
money set up Moon¹s ³Freedom Center² in the U.S. with crime boss Kodama
serving as Chief Advisor to the Moon subsidiary ³Win Over Communism.² In
1966, the League merged with the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations, a group
with strong fascist ties to form the World Anti-Communist League led by
retired U.S. Major General John Singlaub. Singlaub, a good friend of the
Bush family, serves on the CNP and enlisted paramilitary organizations to
support the contra cause in Nicaragua. These are the FOBs (Friends of Bush),
a shadowy network connected to the CIA, mind control, fascism and arms and
drug-running.  Articles
Spring2000





[CTRL] gun control

2000-12-29 Thread Nessie

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My latest column on SFBG.com sparked some lively debate over on
Indymedia.  According to some people, I’m “acting like a typical
white/male/suburban paranoid nut”  and have “something seriously messed
up, upstairs.”  My opposition to victim disarmament is compared to
telling “you about how great it is to eat babies every now and then.”

Needless to say, I put them in their place. Check it out. You may get a
kick out of it:

http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=15983

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[CTRL] Suprynowicz: Blocking Cheaper Drugs: Corporate Toadies To The End

2000-12-29 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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http://www.ajtoogood.com/column/general/suprynowicz/122800.htm

Blocking Cheaper Drugs: Corporate Toadies To The End

Vin Suprynowicz
Toogood Reports [Thursday, December 28, 2000; 12:01 a.m. EST]


Ever mindful of the wishes of their corporate backers, the
Clinton administration first balked at the bill proposed by Sen.
James Jeffords, R-Vt., to allow the re-importation of
U.S.-manufactured pharmaceuticals which sell at lower prices
overseas.

(U.S. prices for popular arthritis, depression, and
cholesterol-lowering medications are often 30 to 50 percent
higher than in other nations - even after factoring in the cost
of shipment.)

But the idea of allowing pharmacies to re-import the less
expensive drugs won bipartisan congressional approval when
Democrats and Republicans proved unable to agree on any more
comprehensive scheme to federally subsidize prescription drugs,
particularly for the elderly (an expenditure which, for the
record, the Congress has no constitutional authority whatever.)

Faced with widespread popular support for the re-import measure,
President Clinton finally signed it, praising GOP congressional
leaders at the time for agreeing "in the face of the drug
companies' opposition, to give Americans access to prescription
drugs that are cheaper in other countries."

But implementation procedures contained a loophole - they were
subject to an OK from the Secretary of Health and Human Services.

And guess what? Tuesday, outgoing HHS Secretary Donna Shalala -
think there's any chance of landing some hefty new drug research
grants down at the U of Miami next year, Madame Secretary? -
again placed the ongoing pharmaceutical industry protection
racket above the ability of America's poor and elderly to buy
affordable prescription medicines, announcing she would not even
request the $23 million appropriated to start the program because
"Flaws and loopholes ... make it impossible for me to demonstrate
that it is safe and cost effective."

Humbug. If it's not cost-effective, pharmacies simply won't
re-import. But how could it not be cost-effective to re-import
drugs which sell at half price overseas? And as for safety - does
the Secretary imply she's allowing U.S. manufacturers to ship out
unsafe drugs to our foreign friends and allies?

The great Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises - whose English was
far from perfect in the early years after he immigrated here -
once halted a discussion between Murray Rothbard and others of
his New York students to ask "What is this word 'loophole' you
keep using?" When the young Americans had finished explaining the
colloquialism, von Mises sagely observed, "Ah. So you call it a
'loophole' when the government still allows you some freedom."

A theoretical objection can be raised that by re-importing these
drugs, Americans to some extent embrace the anti-free-market
price caps imposed by more or less fascist foreign governments.
But no one forces the drug firms to sell overseas under those
conditions - if they're not making a profit, they can refuse to
export there, in the first place.

All forms of competition work to the advantage of the consumer -
including the breakdown of arbitrary price supports imposed by
the government's monopoly on armed force through arbitrary bans
on "re-importation."

The real question is why millions of dollars need to be spent
simply to tear down these protectionist tariff walls, allowing
U.S. pharmacies to re-import any drug which meets their own
safety standards. Clearly, the extra tens of millions are for
hundreds of new inspectors to make sure we're not allowed too
much commercial freedom ... when the real solution would be to
declare all pharmaceutical imports duty free on humanitarian
grounds, from penicillin to Prozac, from coca leaves to Indian
hemp.

Thank goodness this current batch of corporate toadies - any more
Tyson Chicken executives in need of pardons, Mr. President? Any more
convicted cocaine smugglers to whom you'd like to restore the right to
carry a handgun? - will be gone inside a month. Perhaps Mr. Bush's
nominees can do a little better.

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[CTRL] AP: Were there two Old Testaments?

2000-12-29 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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http://www.msnbc.com/news/480683.asp


Were there two Old Testaments?

New  interpretation of Dead Sea Scrolls poses a puzzler

ASSOCIATED  PRESS


SOUTH BEND, Ind., Dec. 17 - The Dead Sea Scrolls, hidden away in
Holy Land caves 2,000 years ago and unearthed after World War II,
are often rated the 20th century's greatest archaeological find.
The chief reason for most people: the rediscovery of 230 texts of
biblical books, which have begun to change details in the
Scriptures read by millions.

'If it could be demonstrated we have two biblical traditions
arising independently of one another, then which one are you
going to call God's Word?' - JOHN WALTON Moody Bible Institute

FOR INSTANCE? The height of Goliath. "He's barely tall enough to
make the All-Star Game," said Frank Cross, a Harvard University
expert on the official team working on the scrolls.

   That is, in 1 Samuel 17:4 most English translations say
Goliath stood "six cubits and a span," meaning a towering nine
feet plus. But a damaged Dead Sea scroll can be read as saying
"four cubits and a span," a mere six and a half feet.  That's why
the official U.S. Catholic Bible gives Goliath the shorter
stature.

   Or consider Psalm 145, an acrostic in which each verse
begins with a successive letter of the Hebrew alphabet. This
chapter was always a head-scratcher because the verse for one
letter is missing in the standard Hebrew text. But a phrase with
that letter turned up in a Dead Sea scroll and is tacked onto
145:13 in most recent translations: "God is faithful in his words
and gracious in all his deeds ..."

   Further rewordings are expected, and some of them could
shift meaning. In all Bibles, Deuteronomy 8:6 speaks of "fearing"
or "revering" God, but a Dead Sea scroll says "loving," instead.
Should scholars consider this change?

To those for whom each word of the Bible was inspired by
God, even such small alterations are significant.

   Still, as Cross puts it, "There is no 11th Commandment."
The rewording prompted by the scrolls does not challenge basic
beliefs.


SWEEPING IMPLICATIONS


But a fellow researcher, Eugene Ulrich, professor of Hebrew at
the University of Notre Dame and chief editor of the Dead Sea
biblical materials, sees far more sweeping implications for the
Old Testament (the Christian term for what Jews call the Tanakh).

   "I feel like the person who put the last stone atop the
pyramids," Ulrich said. "I'm as weary as can be, but I'm glad I
did it."

   Ulrich was polishing the last volume on biblical texts for
the official scholarly series from Oxford University Press, which
will be a landmark in this painstaking and highly technical
project. The overall effort hit the headlines in 1991 when two
independent groups, frustrated with the slow pace of the official
scholarly team, rushed unauthorized editions of the texts into
print so all scholars could begin assessing them.


Dead Sea Scrolls

 Sample differences between the Dead Sea Scrolls and the standard
Old Testament:

 . JEREMIAH: Although manuscripts are fragmentary, it appears a
Dead Sea version of the book was 13 percent shorter than the
Masoretic one. For example, verses 10:6-8 are missing ("O Lord,
there is none like you ...").

 . 1 SAMUEL:  Before verse 11:1, the scrolls include a paragraph
on an Ammonite eye-gouging rampage that standard Bibles omit.

 .  DEUTERONOMY: In verse 8:6, one Dead Sea manuscript has
conventional wording and tells us to "fear" God, but another text
says to "love" God.

 . ISAIAH: In a poetic passage on the fall of Moab, a Dead Sea
manuscript omits half the wording of verses 16:8-9.

Ulrich's assessment? He repeatedly encountered scrolls that "did,
and didn't, look like what we call the Bible."

   His conclusion: In ancient times, two or more contrasting
editions of many biblical books existed side by side and were all
regarded as Scripture. In other words, back then, the Old
Testament was far different from what we think of today.

   He concludes that there were multiple editions for at
least these books: Genesis, Exodus, Numbers, Joshua, Judges, 1
and 2 Kings, 1 and 2 Samuel, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Psalms
and Song of Solomon. Ulrich spelled out his theory in "The Dead
Sea Scrolls and the Origins of the Bible."

   An example of the problems he and others ponder: In two of
the Dead Sea Scrolls, Psalm 33 directly follows Psalm 31,
skipping number 32. Did the scribes who wrote those manuscripts
believe 32 was not God's Word?

   And the opposite situation: Various scrolls include 15
psalms that are not found in standard Bibles. Sample: "Blessed be
he who has made the earth by his power, who has established the
world in his wisdom ... ." Was this Scripture that was later
lost, or did Dead Sea scribes merely collect devotional poetry
and mix it with biblical psalms?

   "If Ulrich is on the right track, we've got some major
thinking to do," said John Walton, a co

Re: [CTRL] War Is Our Mother! (rough translation)

2000-12-29 Thread Michael Pugliese

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   Alexander Dugin is a Russian neo-fascist who co-wrote the program of the
Zyuganov led Russian Communist Party. Leads a group called the National
Bolshevik Party. Shame on Jared Israel's Bulgarian contributor, Blagovesta
Doncheva, for heeding the words of this freak. (Albeit, a highly educated
one!)

Michael Pugliese
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Date: Friday, December 29, 2000 8:12 AM
Subject: Fw: War Is Our Mother! (rough translation)



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Subject: War Is Our Mother! (rough translation)


ADuginWarIsOurMotherTransl261200

Alexander DUGIN

WAR IS OUR MOTHER


We published that essay more than two years ago but then only a small part
of our readers understood its essence.  Nevertheless, from the perspective
of the time that had passed away that essay’s truth is getting more and more
horrible. Because the utter defeat of Bulgaria, of both its past and future,
of the social fabric of the Bulgarian national spirit - including the right
to life! - confirm with tragic weight DUGIN’s essay. There is only one way
out of the situation; there is only way to throw off the gang that has got
hold of the power in our country; there is only one way to stop the Genocide
against Bulgaria and the Bulgarians. That is the conscious resistance, that
is the personal war of every Bulgarian, that is the inevitable way out, when
all the other means prove to be useless…

“Top Confidential”, a monthly
newspaper, November, p.7

A prejudice exists that “peace at all costs” is better than war. Against the
human history realities, against the pacifists utopias’ constant refutation,
that most naïve position do not disappear. On the contrary.
The apologists of “peace at all costs” base their arguments on the Gospel
and the anti-militaristic character of the Christian ethics. But that is a
free interpretation. Because the eternal peace of the heavenly world opposes
to the basic characteristics of the down world, moved by the frantic
violence of the elements.
That is what Heraklit (?) writes about too: “The enmity is the father of all
things.” The Upper World, the world of the true peace, is at war with the
Down World, fallen under the Devil’s power. These two camps - these two
groups - will be in a constant state of hostility, of war till the end of
the world. The reconciliation between them is impossible. The appeals for
such reconciliation are sacrilegious - blasphemous. There cannot be any
consensus between the Good and Evil. That’s why to base the pacifism on the
Christianity is incorrect from a theological view too. The preached love for
the enemy cannot revoke the battle.
One cannot escape from war. That world’s bases are built up on the war. They
are its main quality. The moment we were thrown into the Earth World we were
mobilized and called at the front. We should accept that fact.
Without solving the problem with the war, without reacting to its appeal we
can move to neither side of Life. At the moment of our birth we are doomed
to a definite part of the Down World. Consequently, we are automatically
mobilized to fight for its defense, to stand up for the community, society,
their interests.
On principle all people are in a state of constant war. They are forced to
defend their roots, their land, their state, themselves, from the aggressive
waves of the Earth realities. Man was born from the war, was constituted by
it and tempered in its fire.
It is strange that the more obstinately Humanity runs away from the war
realism, the more terrible and inhumane the wars get, and the more deeply
Humanity goes down the Spiral of Horror into Vileness. The Pharisaic
juridical rule forbidding the war propaganda is based on that. What a
hypocrisy!
War is sniggering at these pitiable attempts. And it revenges itself on us.
It is irrevocable as Death. The one who is not getting ready for a
participation in the Battle is not signing oneself among the deserters but
among the victims. Sooner or later war overtakes him. But He will be caught
up not as an alive and free being, capable to accept with dignity the
challenge as a noble creature, but as a piteous inanimate doll, a passive
thing, intending to cheaply slip out of the mighty challenge.
It is impossible to run away from war. On the contrary. It is important to
define our affiliation to our army and our military unit. It is not
important if the war is declared or not. It will not delay too much. It is
irrevocable. It is everywhere around us.
But war has not only spiritually existential aspect. It has also another
component concerning the common system of values. War makes man confirm with
tremendous personal effort again and again his belonging to the community.
War social, and even national, sense is hiding here. It is always a
collective action, alwa

[CTRL] Fwd: Sham Sharm

2000-12-29 Thread Aleisha Saba




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"In return for keeping settlements
illegally built on occupied
territory, Mr Arafat would be
the recipient of a patch of sand."

"And the Palestinian Authority knows all
too well what 'control' would mean in
Jerusalem. While Arafat's men collected
garbage, supplied the traffic cops
and kept their own people in order,
the Israelis would continue to hold
sovereign power over all Jerusalem."

"Bundled in with the rest of the Clinton
proposals, Mr Arafat and Mr Barak
were never going to make a deal.
That much is certain. Along with the
fact that the ever-more humiliated Mr
Arafat is going to be blamed yet again
for turning down that infamous
'last chance for peace'."


   THE SHAM SHARM SUMMIT

MID-EAST REALITIES © - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 12/29:
Shame on the American media for their feebleness, cowardice, and shallowness
when it comes to reporting what is really going on in the Middle East "Peace
Process".  Even the term itself of course should be put in quotes, for it has
always really been a control and domination process, "peace" thrown in purposefully
to deceive and manipulate.  You won't find such honest analysis and such succinct
quotes as above in the New York Times, or Washington Post, or LATimes; and certainly
not on CNN or Lehrer News Hour.  For that, in English, we have to turn to the
British press, in this case the longest servicing U.K. journalist in the region
Robert Fisk writing in The Independent.  Many may remember that MER-TV featured
an exclusive 2-hour interview with Fisk a few years ago, when he pretty much
foretold then what is happening now.



  SHAM SUMMIT PROMISED LITTLE FOR THE PALESTINIANS
  By Robert Fisk

[The Independent - December 29, 2000]:
In the end, it was the same old story. The Israelis would make "one last step
for peace". They would probably concede  -- according to a number of inaccurate
Western newspaper reports -- Palestinian "sovereignty" over the Temple Mount/
Haram al-Sharif mosques in Jerusalem. And Yasser Arafat would be blamed if he
turned down the last chance he would ever get for a real peace in the Middle
East.

Thus was yesterday's doomed summit at Sharm el-Sheikh promoted -- and upon
these factual untruths it died before it was ever held. Of course, Ehud Barak
pulled out. Of course, Mr Arafat could not accept the terms, because Israel
was offering the Palestinians "control" of the surface of the mosques, it
never offered "sovereignty". And by midday yesterday, Mr Barak's security
adviser, Danny Yatom, was saying just that. Mr Barak, he announced, "will not
sign an accord which transfers sovereignty [over the Temple Mount/ Haram
al-Sharif] to the Palestinians".

The result? The world believes that Mr Arafat turned down what he had always
demanded, and the cancellation of the Sharm el-Sheikh summit was entirely his
fault. Having claimed in the past that Israel was offering 92 per cent of the
West Bank  -- and then 94 per cent  -- to the Palestinians, the Americans
insisted that the latest Clinton proposals would give Mr Arafat 95 per cent.

But a careful reading of the Clinton document proves this to be untrue. With
the Dead Sea waters that would become Palestinian "territory", with the
Israeli army "buffer zones", with the "rental" of the Kiryat Arba settlement
land, with the exclusion of the West Bank land illegally annexed into
Jerusalem by the Israelis (including the massive Male Adumim settlement),
Arafat was still likely to get no more than 64 or 65 per cent. And the
Palestinian Authority knows all too well what "control" would mean in
Jerusalem. While Arafat's men collected garbage, supplied the traffic cops
and kept their own people in order, the Israelis would continue to hold
sovereign power over all Jerusalem.

Palestinian "control" of Palestinian "neighbourhoods" of Jerusalem would
recreate the insanity of West Bank areas A, B and C where Israelis and
Palestinians variously "control" all of an area or share parts of it. One
Jerusalem street would have Palestinian policemen, the next Israelis. And the
Israelis, of course, could besiege a street just as they can currently
besiege a town on the West Bank.

Then there was the "swap" of Palestinian land on the West Bank that Israel
would keep in return for "some land outside the Gaza Strip in the sou

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Fulton J. Sheen Accused of Plagiarism

2000-12-29 Thread Nessie

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THe title is misleading. It is not Sheen who is being acused, but a guy
who  wrote a book about him.

"An expert on the late Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen has accused a New York
priest of plagiarizing her work in his biography of the Roman Catholic
televangelist."
  

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[CTRL] FW: VATICAN ATTACKS CALIFORNIA HOLOCAUST LAW AS UNCONSTITUTIONAL

2000-12-29 Thread Nessie

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News for Immediate Release
December 29, 2000
Easton & Levy, Attorneys
Jonathan Levy (513) 528-0586
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VATICAN ATTACKS CALIFORNIA HOLOCAUST LAW AS UNCONSTITUTIONAL

The Vatican Bank which purports to be part of the Vatican and has been
caught up in Holocaust era restitution lawsuits in California federal
courts since November 1999, is attempting to have a California law
designed to help elderly Holocaust achieve resolution of Nazi slave
labor claims within their lifetimes declared unconstitutional. The law
permits victims of World War II slave labor camps to file claims in
California courts until year 2010. The Vatican Bank argues all the
Holocaust slave labor claims should be dismissed as untimely.

A lawsuit, Alperin v. Vatican Bank, filed in November 1999 by Serb,
Jewish, and Ukrainian Holocaust survivors against the Vatican Bank seeks
return of Nazi loot stolen from wartime Yugoslavia which included the
profits of slave labor. According to a 1998 US State Department report,
the money known as the Ustasha Treasury, is thought to have been
concealed in the Vatican and used in part to fund the escape of Nazi war
criminals to South America.

The Vatican Bank is based in Vatican City and conducts worldwide banking
operations. Its Board includes Cardinal Maida of Detroit and the Vatican
Secretary of State, Cardinal Sodano, one of the highest-ranking members
of the Cardinals' College. According to one of the plaintiffs'
attorneys, Jonathan Levy, "I find the conduct of the Vatican
incomprehensible. On the one hand the Pope preaches forgiveness while
his Cardinals and Bank seek to overturn a law that helps thousands of
elderly survivors in all sorts of claims, not just the ones against the
Vatican Bank. One wonders who is in charge at the Holy See?"

The lawsuits in California against the Vatican Bank seek an accounting
to determine the status of the disputed funds and then restitution if
needed. Federal Judge Maxine M. Chesney has ordered the Vatican Bank's
attorney to officially notify the California Attorney General of the
challenge to the constitutionality of Code of Civil Procedure section
354.6 by January 6, 2001.

For more information contact:
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[CTRL] Fw: War Is Our Mother! (rough translation)

2000-12-29 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic


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[CTRL] Fw: Bulgaria Today - Yugoslavia Tomorrow!

2000-12-29 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic


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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Clinton Legacy

2000-12-29 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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<<  some in the media are
 >beginning to analyze Bill Clinton's eight years
 > in office. Alas, I am one of
 >those. >>

Alas is the word.   Prudy

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[CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] Fw: Environmental warfare, Chossudovsky

2000-12-29 Thread Amelia

-Caveat Lector-

June,
First we had a weekend of 35 mph sustained winds.  Next the killer
tornadoes.  Now we have had 5 ice/snow events in 10 days.  I cannot help but
wonder if we are being HAARP'ed!  Clinton tried for years to have our local
weather station shut down in retaliation for Sen Shelby's "defection" to the
Republican party.  He also moved as many NASA jobs to Texas as he could for
the same reason but the weather station is the only one that can cover this
area because of the elevation and mountains.  We are not covered by either
Birmingham or Nashville for some weather events.  The only ski resort in the
entire State is actually open. Cajuns on skis!  What fun! Then the ice in
the Southern plains.  This is such extreme and drastic weather for this
region.  We are also entering the fourth year of a drought and have had the
hottest summers on record.  Not the best time for me to start a commercial
greenhouse & nursery. :)

What I wonder is IF this is "modified" weather, is it "us" practicing or
"them" inflicting harm.  Or is it just "Mother Nature" having mood swings?
And we have more ice/snow forecast for tonight!  The temperatures are far
below normal, killing all sorts of vegetation which can sustain a couple of
bitterly cold nights but not two weeks of it.  Things like young pecan trees
and fruit trees under 4 yrs old will die.

Granted, it could be just natural variation but when I read about weather
modification and climate change, I really wonder.  Post or send me anything
new on HAARP even if it feeds my paranoia.
Amelia
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From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 8:51 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Fw: Environmental warfare, Chossudovsky
>
> > Environmental warfare, Chossudovsky, 2000
> > The Americans and the Russians have developed capabilities to manipulate
the
> > World's climate.
> > Dr. Rosalie Bertell confirms that "US military scientists are working on
> > weather systems as a potential weapon."
> >

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[CTRL] Fwd: Bush Aide Tells Council on Foreign Relations He Will Attack Colombia : "...

2000-12-29 Thread William Shannon





Bush Aide Tells Council on Foreign Relations He Will Attack Colombia
"Drug War" Will Be Excuse Says Advisor

Fri Dec 29 09:55:55 2000
LSN Staff

Washington, DC -- Bush Adviser Robert Zoellick, who is in
line to become US Trade Representative,
told the Council on Foreign Relations
last month that George Bush will attack
Colombia, according to a news story
released today by commondreams.org, a
progressive left-leaning anti-war news
source.

(http://commondreams.org/headlines/12280
0-01.htm)

According to the article Zoellick
proposed a major policy shift in his
November 7 speech.  Though the current
president of Colombia, Andres Pastrana,
appears on the verge of a peace treaty
to end the 30-year old civil war,
Bush's policy will be to break up any
peace agreement, and aggressively
pursue a US presence in the South
America nation.

Under the guise of supporting
the "forces of democracy", Zoellick
said the US should fund militia groups
who have tortured and executed at least
4000 non-combatant civilians, and that
the current policy, of limiting aid to
anti-drug efforts was misguided,
because South American who oppose the
US agenda and drugs were essentially
the same thing.

The deal is also likely aimed at
limiting Cuban influence in the
region.  Cuba is a major player in the
peace negotiations, and recently
negotiated the release of 42 Colombian
soldiers and policement who had been
taken prisoner by the guerillas.

The Council on Foreign Relations is
a "think tank" group that believes war
and government should be used to
further the interests of big business.
The incoming Secretary of State, Colin
Powell, is a prominent member of the
Council.



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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Another JFK Murder Red Herring

2000-12-29 Thread Carl Amedio

-Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 12/29/00 10:18:25 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< lights a little-known CIA document that reveals the presence of a Fren=
 ch
 > terrorist/mobster on Dealey Plaza the day of JFK's murder. >>

THIS IS OLD NEWS.THEY WERE CORSICAN HIT MEN HIRED FOR THE JOB

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[CTRL] Fwd: Illuminati infiltrated Pentecostal movement

2000-12-29 Thread Kris Millegan





Wayne Morris:

Is it because you were the firstborn that you were chosen for this kind of
vitimization or were there other reasons?

Cisco Wheeler:

In part. In the late forties the Illuminati wanted to infilitrate the
churches because they understood the power of God within the structure of
the church, and they had to find a way to infiltrate the church to break
down that spiritual strength within the church, the power of the holy spirit
that works within the church. They had to find a way to infiltrate that, and
they wanted to bring the world into the churches so that the churches
wouldn't be so strong spiritually. That was part of my father's job. In
order to do that my father married my mother who was not Illuminati, nor was
she ritual, but she did have a very strong religious background. She was
that perfect example for the world, that perfect wife for the church, to set
examples for other young women in the church. When my father married her,
that was his way to infiltrate the church, through my mother.

Wayne Morris:

Throughout your father's life, how did he go about infiltrating during this
process?

Cisco Wheeler:

By becoming part of the church, by being a minister, by being ordained, by
getting into the youth groups, becoming very friendly with the Elders and
the Board of Directors within the congregation itself. This was the
Pentecostal churches.

Wayne Morris:

You mentioned your father's role in drug trafficking within the Vietnam War.
Could you expand on that?

Cisco Wheeler:

When the Vietnam soldiers were killed and they brought their bodies back,
drugs were hidden in the cavities in their bodies. My father's
responsibility was to get that from the mortician and it would be a
controlled substance at that point, and he was the handler of that
controlled substance. He wasn't active in Vietnam. He was just the extended
hand that was used within our government to make sure the drugs met their
destination.

Wayne Morris:

Do you consider yourself completely free now of the influence from the
Illuminati and your former perpetrators?

Cisco Wheeler:

No I do not consider myself completely free from the cult influence. We are
continually harassed by external threats. We get a lot of phone calls, we
get bullets in our windows, we get run off the road, we get letters, we get
people that walk up to us in the grocery store and they threaten us. They
let us know in their little way that they know where I am, what I am doing,
and what I am up to, and that it's not over until they say it's over. They
are calling the shots.

Wayne Morris:

Have they been able to access parts of you that you have not dealt with in
terms of healing?

Cisco Wheeler:

In the past they have; at the present time, no. I am very careful on where I
am and what I am doing. I am not careless with my time or my energy, and I
don't set myself up so that they can access me. I have other people answer
my phone. I have other people read my letters. I have other people that walk
before to make sure everything is okay before I walk into anything that I
can't handle.

Wayne Morris:

What effects has the trauma conditioning that you have undergone throughout
your life do you have to deal with currently?

Cisco Wheeler:

I continue to suffer with the trauma based mind control in every aspect of
my life. I have to deal with the fact that my father had a beautiful little
girl and he didn't want her love as that beautiful little girl that was born
to him. I have to deal with the fact that he wanted a little girl but he
wanted her to be shattered into a million pieces so he could structure every
aspect of my life. And then I have to ask myself what did it take to
splinter this 18 month old child into a million pieces? And you deal with
questions like that. It is hard for the mind to comprehend what has been
done to you because the mind always wants to protect itself to some degree
so you take little 'bites' of it. But the mind is always processing
material. Then I have to deal with the fact that they planned this - that's
what structured is. Structured MPD/DID was planned from the time of my
conception and I am afraid that kind of hurts my feelings when I think about
it.

Wayne Morris:

They had a definite structure in terms of knowing what they were doing when
they were traumatizing you, and what the effects that would bring about ...

Cisco Wheeler:

Exactly. They knew from A to Z what they wanted to do with my life and how
they wanted to structure, what they wanted me to be, and what they wanted me
to become. That is slavery. I had to deal with the body, soul and spirit
because all parts of myself have been raped. I continually have to deal with
memories; with spirit issues; issues within me - in my programming; how they
dehumanized me; how they shamed me; how they traumatized me to the point
that I didn't even know who I was, what I was, where I was going. I didn't
even know I was a little girl at some points in my traumatization. They 

[CTRL] Fwd: [A-M] Cheney

2000-12-29 Thread Kris Millegan






AUDREY'S MISSILES
A weekly newsletter dedicated to the peaceful
reform of the United States government.
CHENEY'S ROLE

 In his farewell address to the nation in 1961,  President Dwight
Eisenhower warned about the dangers of the military industrial
complex.  Eisenhower's warning should have been a wake up call, but America
continued on her complacent path.  With the end of the cold war,  needs for
military equipment should have dwindled, but it didn't happen that
way.  The arms manufacturers just shifted gears and began to redouble their
lobbying efforts.  There was still plenty of trouble in the world, and they
used every means possible to make sure that the U.S. was  involved.  The
money many of the corporations began to make in the drug trade gave them
even greater access to the government, thus exacerbating the problem.  The
deepest (and most easily tapped)  pocket belonged to Uncle Sam.  You just
had to know the right people.

 Dick Cheney, our newly elected Vice President, belongs to that
group of people. He was  Bush Senior's defense secretary and commanded the
Pentagon during the Persian Gulf War.   There he controlled the allocation
of billions in government contract money, and he built relationships,
especially with those who control oil resources (domestic and foreign),
that have helped to put him where he is now.   That is the way the game is
played.  You make sure the "right people" get government favors, and then
when you need campaign money it is there.  This guarantees that you will
keep on giving favors to those people who furnished financial support when
you needed it the most.  In simple language, "You scratch my back, and I'll
scratch yours."

 If we put aside all the speeches, press releases, and other spin
doctor products, we get to the essence of the Cheney philosophy, because
nothing tells more about a man than what he has actually done in the
past.  Cheney served as CEO of  Halliburton from 1995 to 2000.  To
understand Cheney we need to understand  Halliburton and their famous
subsidiary, heavy construction and oil giant, Brown and Root.  Once source
says, (listed below) " A deeper look into history reveals that Brown and
Root's past as well as the past of Dick Cheney himself, connect to the
international drug trade on more than one occasion and in more than one
way."  It is on the record that Cheney supported Oliver North's bid for the
U.S. Senate, even though North had been engaged in the "arms for drugs"
deals in the Bush Administration.   Any reasonably diligent researcher can
find boatloads of information on Papa Bush's CIA drug dealings, from the
Iran Contra affair, the downing of Eugene Hassenfaus's airplane, to the San
Jose Mercury stories (Dark Alliance series) which were true, even though
they were later retracted (no doubt, under heavy pressure).  Cheney is a
man with a history of four (now five) heart attacks; why did they choose
him?   The answer is plain.  Dick Cheney's record at Halliburton is a link
to the drug trade, and the Bush family felt that they could trust him.  An
attorney for a major Russian oil company which has been connected to heroin
smuggling (and also a beneficiary of US backed loans for Brown and Root
contracts in Russia) held a 2.2 million fund raiser for Bush-Cheney.  And
Dick Cheney, as Halliburton's largest individual shareholder ($45.5
million), has a vested interest in seeing to it that Brown and Root's
successes continue.  We know there will be no questions about heroin
smuggling and probably no questions about sales of embargoed oil machinery
to Saddam Hussein,  but will anyone question Dick Cheney about his stock
holdings?
  Some believe that relationships between key institutions, players
and the Bushes themselves suggest that under Bush Junior's administration
the Bush family and its allies may well be able to control the drug trade
all the way from Medellin to Moscow.  Happy New Year!



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ssenfaus
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/cheney1.html
http://www.weeklywire.com/ww/08-28-00/austin_pols_feature2.html
http://www.campaignwatch.org
http://www.weeklywire.com/ww/08-28-00/austin_pols_feature2.html
http://www.l0pht.com/pub/blackcrwl/patriot/north_and_constitution.txt
http://www.osha-slc.gov/OshDoc/CWSA_data/CSA19871229.html
http://www.findarticles.com/m1295/9_64/65014757/p1/article.jhtml
http://www.monitor.net/monitor/0008a/cheneydislike.html
http://www.motherjones.com/news_wire/cheney.html
http://www.foreignpolicy-infocus.org/papers/micr/introduction.html#Figure 1
http://www.l0pht.com/pub/blackcrwl/patriot/north_and_constitution.txt
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[CTRL] Fwd: Another JFK Murder Red Herring

2000-12-29 Thread Kris Millegan





 "New evidence surrounding the JFK assassination is exposed in THE
DEATHS OF THE COLD WAR KINGS, a just-released trade hardcover by former
political consultant Bradley S. O'Leary and freelance writer Edward Lee:
"Former American Assn of Political Consultants pres Bradley S. O'Leary is a
political fundraiser that has raised millions of dollars for conservative
candidates such as Jesse Helms, Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole, Newt Gingrich and
Oliver North." ‹ Amazon Web site.
‹‹
on 12/28/00 5:15 PM, Remy C. at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Cemetery Dance Publications
> P.O. Box 943
> Abingdon, MD 21009
> 
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> 
> December 28, 2000
> Contact: Cemetery Dance Publications
> 
> Phone: 410 569 5683
> Fax: 410 569 2449
> Email: cdancepub@ aol.com
> 
> Book Takes Fresh, Well-Documented Look at JFK Assassination; French Assassin
> Had Motive
> 
> New evidence surrounding the JFK assassination is exposed in THE DEATHS OF
> THE COLD WAR KINGS, a just-released trade hardcover by former political
> consultant Bradley S. O'Leary and freelance writer Edward Lee. The book
> highlights a little-known CIA document that reveals the presence of a French
> terrorist/mobster on Dealey Plaza the day of JFK's murder.
> 
> An exact duplication of this actual document is featured in the book, along
> with many other curious, never-before-seen federal records that seem to
> dismantle the plethora of more mainstream theories involving the CIA and
> U.S. military/industrial complex.  Instead, O'Leary and Lee, with over 300
> footnotes of documentation, scrutinize a core theory that connects the
> Kennedy-approved overthrow of South Vietnamese president Ngo Dinh Diem on
> November 1, 1963.  Diem was assassinated as a result of that overthrow, and
> JFK himself was assassinated just 21 days later.
> 
> From there, an intricate conspiratorial web between the French global heroin
> syndicate,  kingpins in the U.S. Mafia, and the South Vietnamese executive
> branch is proposed in some rather shocking factual connections.  Other
> revelations include an updating (and some interesting debunking) of
> perennial JFK-assassination lore: indications that JFK had no intention of
> withdrawing from Vietnam, the results from a 1998 ballistic re-enactment on
> Dealey Plaza, more reasons why Lee Harvey Oswald couldn't have been the
> shooter, etc.
> Assassination theorists will be doubly interested in the convincing
> biography, connections, and motives of one Michel Victor Mertz, the French
> spy-turned-heroin-smuggler whom the authors suspect as being one of the men
> who killed JFK.
> 
> 
> 





[CTRL] Fwd: Fulton J. Sheen Accused of Plagiarism

2000-12-29 Thread Kris Millegan





Professor accuses New York priest of plagiarism
The Associated Press
COLUMBUS, Ohio (December 27, 2000 9:23 a.m. EST http://www.nandotimes.com) -
An expert on the late Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen has accused a New York
priest of plagiarizing her work in his biography of the Roman Catholic
televangelist.
Some stores have withdrawn the book but Kathleen Riley, an assistant history
professor at Ohio Dominican College, has asked for an apology and attorney's
fees. She also wants the remaining books destroyed.
Riley, 46, has sent a lawyer's letter to Rev. Myles P. Murphy accusing him
of lifting quotations and footnotes from her doctoral dissertation to use in
"The Life and Times of Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen."
Murphy, 42, an assistant pastor at St. Gabriel's Church in New York City,
cited Riley's dissertation 11 times in his book. He agreed she deserved more
credit but denied plagiarism and refused to apologize, saying the two had
used the same research archive.
Sheen gained immense national popularity with his 1950s broadcasts of "Life
Is Worth Living." He died in 1979.
The book's publisher, Alba House of the Society of St. Paul, pulled the
books from some stores after receiving Riley's letter. An Alba spokesman
would not comment on the recall Tuesday.
The priest's book builds on research he did while working on a thesis at the
University of Dayton. After Riley contacted the university, the school
sanctioned Murphy, spokeswoman Pam Huber said, declining to release details
because of privacy laws.





[CTRL] Fwd: Source: Suspect was taking drugs for depression

2000-12-29 Thread Aleisha Saba

So McDermott - drugs the usual suspect, Paxil, Prozac - and another
drug.then today 7 more people gunned down to do with a "crack
house", and 3 wounded.   14 people in two days and drugs seems to be the
culprit.

Seems drugs - legal and illegal - behind these murders...of
interest, why was he attempting, and I say attempting supposedly, to
destroy his computer files..remember Littleton and two kids who
would have done more damage with the propane tanks than with their Uzi
or whatever there guns were - seems these kids and McDermott might have
all had a mentor - egging them on.

Saba


    

 
Source: Suspect was taking drugs for depressionAccused killer Michael M.
McDermott at his arraignment Wednesday. -- Matthew West
Dave Wedge, Tom Farmer and Jose Martinez
Dec. 29 -   The hulking computer technician accused of gunning down
seven of his co-workers at a Wakefield high-tech firm this week suffered
from a host of mental illnesses - including schizophrenia - for which he
was taking a trio of antidepressants, a source told the Herald
yesterday.
  
 ?HE'S GOT SOME serious psychological issues and a long
(psychiatric) history,? the source said of 42-year-old Michael ?Mucko?
McDermott.
 McDermott, a divorced Navy veteran from Marshfield who
lived most recently in Haverhill, suffered from severe depression,
paranoia and schizophrenia, and had been in psychiatric treatment for
some time, according to the source who spoke on condition of anonymity.
 To cope with his mental disorders, McDermott was
prescribed several Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, or SSRIs,
designed to increase brain serotonin. Low levels of brain serotonin can
lead to depression and anxiety disorders.
 A source familiar with the investigation said McDermott's
supervisors at Edgewater Technology Inc. did not appear to know he was
using the medication.
 McDermott is being held without bail on seven counts of
first-degree murder in Tuesday's massacre at Edgewater. Prosecutors have
said McDermott wielded a shotgun and semiautomatic rifle with
premeditated precision and extreme atrocity, hunting down workers in the
company's accounting and human resources offices but letting others flee
unharmed.
 MSNBC: Memorial held for Wakefield victims

 He was arrested by police who found him sitting in the
lobby near the bodies of two of his victims. At least two Edgewater
employees witnessed the rampage, including one woman who hid behind a
chair and her coat beneath a desk in the accounting office, where two of
her co-workers were killed.
 Middlesex County District Attorney Martha Coakley has
said McDermott may have been seeking vengeance over the impending
docking of his paychecks by Edgewater to satisfy an IRS demand for back
taxes. Sources say the IRS orders would have left McDermott with just
$275 every two weeks.
 But investigators also are looking for clues about what
drove the man to kill by delving into the contents of computers seized
from McDermott's office and home, where police also found bomb-making
literature and materials. One source said McDermott had attempted to
wipe out the hard drive of his office computer the day of the shootings.
 Yesterday, neither Coakley nor McDermott's defense
attorney, Kevin Reddington, would discuss the case or McDermott's mental
state and psychological history. However, at Wednesday's arraignment,
Reddington raised the specter of an insanity defense by saying his
client had been seeing psychiatrists and asking the judge to OK his
continued medication.
 Insanity defenses rarely succeed. The so-called Prozac
defense has been unsuccessfully attempted in dozens of murder cases
nationwide, including in the case of Kip Kinkel, the teenager who killed
his family and two schoolmates in Springfield, Ore.
 According to the source, who is familiar with the still
mounting case, McDermott had been taking Paxil, Prozac and Desyrel - all
of which are SSRIs designed to treat depression, social phobias or
anxiety.
 The source also said orders have been sent by doctors to
the Middlesex County Sheriff's office so McDermott can receive his
medications in the Cambridge jail. He will be examined by psychiatrists
some time in the next week, the source said.
 The revelations about McDermott's psychiatric history
emerged as his co-workers returned to St. Joseph's Church - where so
many of them had sought refuge and solace in the hours after the
shootings - for a memorial service in honor of their seven slain
colleagues.
 ?We're all hurting and grieving, but I can't tell you how
much we're pulling together as a team,? Edgewater Technology Chief
Executive Officer Shirley Singleton said after meeting with her
employees for the first time since the shootings.
 The company has started a memorial fund for the families
of the slain workers with a $70,000 donation. Singleton also said grief
counseling, which began yesterday at the firm, would continue as long as
emplo

[CTRL] Wounded Knee - Chilling Modern Parallels

2000-12-29 Thread kl

-Caveat Lector-

The 110th Anniversary of the Wounded Knee Massacre
Some Chilling Modern Parallels
by  S. Leon Felkins, Major, US Army (Retired)

While it is a popular theme of books and movies, many of us are
quite tired of hearing about the evils of the past. After all "it didn't
happen on my watch" as we used to say in the Navy. Not only did
I have nothing to do with these atrocities, there is nothing I can
do about it now. Sure the President can issue official apologies
and token compensations but these actions fall far short of curing
the ills of the past. They are essentially useless if not harmful.

So, that is not the reason for this report. No, there is a far more
important reason to take time to note the 110th anniversary of the
Wounded Knee Massacre and to once again examine what
happened on that very cold 29th day of December, 1890, on
Wounded Knee creek in South Dakota. That reason is that the
specific activities and causes of that tragedy are not as far removed
from some recent events in the U.S. Given that, let us consider
once again Santayana's famous quote:

 "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to
  repeat it."
   ~ from George Santayana's The Life of Reason

What Actually Happened?

I will not go into a detailed discussion of the events surrounding
the massacre of these "Native Americans", a.k.a. "Indians",[Note
1] as they are covered extensively elsewhere. The web
page of the Library Of Congress introduces the subject this way:

"On December 29, 1890 at Wounded Knee Creek, on the Pine
Ridge Reservation, South Dakota, some 500 soldiers of the United
States Seventh Cavalry opened fire on approximately 350 Lakota
(Sioux) Indians of Chief Big Foot's Miniconjou band. At the end of
the confrontation, between 150 and 300 Sioux men, women, and
children, including Chief Big Foot, were dead. This event marked
the end of Lakota resistance until the 1970s. Apart from the few
minor skirmishes that followed, the Wounded Knee massacre
ended the Indian Wars."

Further details will be provided below as necessary to support my
major points. However, if you would like to examine the event in
further details now, here are some of the better links on the web:

 - A brief but informative introduction by PBS is here.
   The PBS site has a few photographs, including a picture
   of Soldiers posing with three of the four Hotchkiss Guns used
 against the Lakota at Wounded Knee.

 -Massacre At Wounded Knee, 1890 (includes eye-witness
accounts from both sides as well as pictures). A photo of mass
burial is here.

  -Wounded Knee Home Page (includes several links to related
issues).

   -THE MEDALS OF WOUNDED KNEE (about the issue of the
awarding of the Medals of Honor).

  -Doctor Sally Wagner Testifies At Wounded Knee Hearings
   1890

  -Massacre at Wounded Knee (includes references to books and
videos).

Events and Issues Closely Related to Concerns We Have Today

In reading the various documented reports of this incident, some
statements are eerily close to events in our modern times.
Following is a list of the major ones.

The Cruel Blunders and Inaction of our Government – Including
Congress

Massive bureaucracy and Congressional inaction was a serious
and often disastrous problem then as it is today. By a series of
shenanigans and bogus treaties, the Indians had been
progressively relieved of their land and pushed into relatively small
reservations. This greatly reduced their hunting range while at the
same time, the animals to hunt were becoming scarcer and
scarcer (the buffalo had been exterminated by the white settlers
and government hired hunters). The efforts of the natives at farming
in these barren "Badlands" was a total failure. For the winter of '90,
they were facing starvation and death by freezing as they had
little food or clothing – both of which were promised by
Congress and were part of the terms of the treaties.

Congress was not giving the problem much attention. They were
taking as long to approve the budget then as they do today --
except then thousands of people were suffering and dying. You can
imagine how serious it is for the Lakotas to be without food and
clothing in the blizzards of the Dakotas while Congress continued
to debate the budget in the nicely heated Washington Capitol
building. The desperate situation is best described by a message
General Miles sent to his superior in Washington on December 19,
pleading for action by Congress (from Dr. Sally Wagner's
Testimony).

"The difficult Indian problem cannot be solved permanently at
this end of the line. It requires the fulfillment of Congress of
 the treaty obligations which the Indians were entreated and
 coerced into signing. They signed away a valuable portion of
 their reservation, and it is now occupied by white people, for
 which they have received nothing. They understood that ample
 provision would be made for their support; ins

[CTRL] Black Disenfranchisement and Mandates

2000-12-29 Thread Amelia

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 {Tsk, tsk!  Looks like Jesse made the whole thing up and not the first
time.  In his defense, that man does more for a tailor-made white shirt than
any politician in the country.  Such a waste of a gifted speaker.  AKE}

Black Disenfranchisement and Mandates
Neal Boortz
Wednesday, Dec. 27, 2000
Editor's Note: Neal Boortz is on vacation. While he's away, we will be
publishing material he has submitted recently, much of which we were unable
to find space for before.
Where's the Disenfranchisement?

The Florida attorney general has failed to turn up evidence of what race
warlord Jesse Jackson called "a systematic plan to disenfranchise black
voters." Still you hear the Rev. Jesse ranting about this plan that included
racist vote-counting machines that could sense whether a ballot was cast by
a black person.

Jackson claims that Florida officials and members of law enforcement worked
to prevent black voters from entering polling precincts statewide with
roadblocks and such. Then we had Gore campaign manager Donna Brazile saying
that black voters faced "dogs and guns" while trying to get to the polls.

But the Florida Highway Patrol says a police roadblock set up near a
predominantly black precinct near Tallahassee had been set up in the same
spot a month earlier and was designed to conduct inspections of every fifth
car that passed through it.

There was no regard for the race of the driver. Yet Jackson and others
insisted that only black drivers were targeted. And reports of police
intimidating black voters outside voting precincts proved groundless; they
were searching the area for a robbery suspect.

Fact is, neither Jesse, nor Al Sharpton, nor Joseph Lowery, nor Donna
Brazile - not one of them - has been able to come to the table with one
single black voter from anywhere in the entire state who can show that they
were (a) properly registered to vote and (b) denied the opportunity to cast
a ballot on Election Day.

Jesse saw a huge story - the election recount - and wanted his face right in
 the middle of it. To get there, Jesse had to bring the same dance partner
he brings to every publicity party: Madame Race. Now we're finding out that
the old broad didn't dance all that well.

Jackson's response to this news will be sheer outrage. He may even stomp his
feet and hold his breath until he turns blue! Then Jesse will turn around
and blame the Republicans' dominance of politics in Florida.

Yeah, that's right. It's those evil, Nazi Republicans. They've taken all of
those black folks they wouldn't let vote and they've either bribed them or
hidden them away somewhere where they won't talk to the press. It's those
nasty Republicans suppressing the evidence of the disenfranchisement of his
people.

No Mandate for a Tax Cut?

Will George W. Bush try to push his promised tax cut through a tight
Congress? Many guessers and pundits in the media are saying that he won't,
because there's no "mandate" for a tax cut.

Of course there's no mandate for a tax cut. What do you think the leftists
have been working toward for so many years? Do you think there's going to be
a huge popular mandate for an across-the-board tax cut when the vast
majority of the taxes are being paid by only a small percentage of our
income earners?

In effect, most of the taxes are paid by about the top 30 percent to 35
percent of income earners. The bottom 40 percent pay nothing at all. How are
you going to get a huge demand generated for a tax cut when taxes are
concentrated in such a small portion of our populaton?

It's been a brilliant strategy! You weed the majority of the people off the
tax rolls - put them on an essentially free ride - and then ask them if they
feel strongly about a tax cut. Hell no, they don't! Why should they?

We will only get a meaningful tax cut for the folks who are really paying
the bills if the D.C. power structure recognizes that we need to put some
more money back into the hands of the people who earned it to get our
economy cranked again. That's when the high producers once again become the
friends of the great unwashed.

Neal Boortz is the hugely popular nationally syndicated radio host.

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[CTRL] New rules on the horizon

2000-12-29 Thread kl

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http://www.townhall.com/columnists/paulcraigroberts/pcr20001227.
shtml

December 27, 2000

New rules on the horizon

2001 arrives without the manned
 space flights to Jupiter and Saturn envisioned by Stanley Kubrick
and Arthur C. Clarke. The U.S. space program was a casualty of
the end of the Cold War. Could the next casualty be American
constitutional democracy now that we no longer have a foreign
opponent to unify us?

The last election revealed a country split not only geographically
between urbanized areas with large minority populations and the
rest of the country, but also between those committed to the
constitutional process and those who believe the ends justify the
means.

This fissure is not a split over policy issues, such as whether to
privatize Social Security, cut tax rates or build a missile defense
system. The country is divided by the Democrats' claim that their
party's causes are so moral as to place them above the
Constitution. When one party sees its causes so imbued with
morality as to justify any action to retain power, constitutionalism
is dead.

Much has been written about the challenges to the Florida vote,
and readers grew tired of it before the real lesson was learned. The
important point is not that the judiciary decided the presidential
election. The vital fact is that the Supreme Court had to deal with
the astonishing claim that the election of Al Gore was so important
that Democrats were entitled to revote already cast ballots until
Gore won.

Democrats demanded a revote, not in counties that Gore lost but in
counties he carried. In the close election Democrats saw an
opportunity to reinterpret spoiled ballots and ballots that did not
mark a choice for president as votes for Al Gore. There were similar
ballots in every county in the United States, but the revote game
was only to be played by Democrats in three Florida counties.
There was no evidence of vote fraud, except on the part of
Democrats. The attempt to revote was clearly a violation of Florida
law and the U.S. Constitution. To deflect attention from this highly
visible exercise in vote fraud, Democrats conducted a defamatory
campaign, alleging that blacks had been intimidated (in counties
controlled by Democrats) and that ballots (designed by Democrats)
were deceptive and confused the elderly.

In a country with a nonpartisan media, such a visible attempt to
steal an election would have been mercilessly exposed. But
Democrats knew the media would serve as the propaganda arm of
their party. Eight years of Bill Clinton have made clear that the
media judges politicians by their stand on "the issues," not by their
behavior. A stolen election is OK if it is stolen for the right causes.
Consequently, the media served as an amplifier for lies and
defamation. One result is that blacks believe they were
disenfranchised despite hard evidence that a larger percentage of
blacks voted than whites.

Certain of the media's support, Democrats turned for help to the
Democratic Florida Supreme Court. This court actively participated
in the vote fraud. Without authority, cause or legal reason, the
court ignored the state's election rules and U.S. Constitution to
order a continuation of the revote. The Florida Supreme Court
agreed with the media that Gore's election justified the raw use of
power.

Although checked at the last moment by the U.S. Supreme Court,
this blatant use of power to steal an election evoked no shame or
remorse in Democrats. Democrats have passed beyond that.
Democrats are liberated from constitutional process by the sanctity
of their ends. This is the important change.

The Democrats almost succeeded in stealing the election.
Republicans found themselves so much on the defensive that they
were afraid to call vote fraud by its own name. Instead, Republicans
argued the legal and constitutional case for the existing rules and
were accused of using technicalities to frustrate the will of the
people.

In a word, Republicans uncharacteristically stood up to the
Democrats' power play but acquiesced in the pretense that the
issue to be resolved was contending interpretations of election
rules. Republicans lacked the confidence and moral strength to
stand up to Democrats on the issue of vote fraud.

Republican timidity showed itself again immediately following the
party's rescue by the Supreme Court. A bill to permit military
personnel to vote where stationed passed the House by a lopsided
vote of 297 to 114. But Senate Republicans deferred to Democrats'
objections and refused to bring up the bill for a vote. Once again,
Republicans protected their enemies and took no action to counter
Democratic propaganda about disenfranchised voters.

This bodes ill for the future. Unless Republicans can secure a
larger percentage of the white vote, defamatory post-election
campaigns, lawyers and judges will determine future election
outcomes. For Democrats, power has become a divine right
justified by the superiority 

[CTRL] What we can do after Wakefield

2000-12-29 Thread kl

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http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/363/oped/What_we_can_do_aft
er_Wakefield+.shtml

THIS STORY HAS BEEN FORMATTED FOR EASY PRINTING

What we can do after Wakefield

By John R. Lott Jr., 12/28/2000

WITH A GUNMAN'S  attack that killed seven people at a Wakefield
Internet company  on Tuesday, the question is simple: What can
be done to stop similar shootings in the future?
For many the answer is more government regulation.  The creation
of gun-free zones, waiting periods, background checks, and safe
storage regulations are just a few of the laws typically proposed.
Yet, Massachusetts already has these restrictions and  many
more.
Surely the intentions of these laws are noble. The goal of
preventing concealed handguns or creating gun-free zones is to
protect people.  But what might appear to be the most obvious
policy may actually cost lives.
When  gun control laws are passed, it is law-abiding citizens, not
would-be criminals, who obey them. Unfortunately, the police
cannot be everywhere, so these laws risk creating situations in
which the good guys cannot defend themselves from the bad ones.
This point was driven home to me when I received an e-mail from a
friend recently, telling me that he had just dropped off his kids at a
public school and outside the school was a sign that said ''This is a
gun-free  zone.'' I couldn't help think, if I put up a sign on my home
that said, ''This home is a gun-free zone,'' would it make it more
attractive or less attractive to criminals entering my home and
attacking  myself or my family?
While horrible crimes like the one in Wakefield get the attention
they deserve,  rarely mentioned are the many attacks that are
stopped by citizens who are able to defend themselves.  About two
million times a year people use guns defensively.  Few realize that
some of the public school shootings were stopped by citizens with
guns.
For example, in the first public shooting spree at a high school, in
Pearl, Miss., in October 1997 that left two dead, an assistant
principal retrieved  a gun from his car and physically immobilized
the shooter for more than five  minutes before police arrived.
A  school-related shooting in Edinboro, Pa., in spring 1998 that left
one dead, was stopped after a bystander pointed a shotgun at the
shooter when he started to reload his gun. The police did not arrive
for another 11 minutes.
But anecdotal stories cannot resolve this debate.  A study at the
University of Chicago by  a colleague  and myself compiled data on
all of the multiple-victim public shootings that occurred in the
United States from 1977 to 1999. Included were incidents in which
at least two people were killed or injured in a public place; to focus
on the type of shooting seen in Wakefield, we excluded gang wars
or shootings that were the byproduct of another crime,  such as
robbery.  The United States averaged more than 20 such shootings
annually, with an average of 1.5 people killed and 2.5 wounded in
each one.
So what can stop these attacks? We have examined a range of
different gun laws, such as waiting periods, as well the frequency
and level of punishment.   However, while arrest and conviction
rates, prison sentences, and the death penalty reduce murders
generally, they do not consistently deter public shootings.
The reason is simple: Those who commit these crimes usually die.
 They are either killed in the attack or commit suicide.  The normal
penalties rarely apply.
To be effective, policies must deal with what motivates these
criminals, which is to kill and injure as many people as possible.
Some appear to do it for the publicity, which is itself related to the
amount of harm they inflict.
The best way to stop these attacks is to enact policies that can
limit the carnage. We found only one policy that effectively
accomplishes  this: the passage of right-to-carry laws.
With Michigan's adoption this month, 32 states now give adults the
right to carry concealed handguns as long as they do not have a
criminal record or a history of significant mental illness. When
states passed such  laws during the 23 years we studied, the
number of multiple-victim public shootings declined by a dramatic
67 percent. Deaths and injuries from these  shootings fell on
average by 78 percent.
To the extent that attacks still occur in states after these laws are
enacted, they disproportionately occur in areas in which concealed
handguns are forbidden. The people who get these permits are
extremely law-abiding and rarely lose their permits for any reason.
Without letting law-abiding citizens  defend themselves, we risk
leaving victims as sitting ducks.
John R. Lott Jr. is a senior research scholar at Yale University Law
School and the author of ''More Guns, Less Crime.''
This story ran on page A15 of the Boston Globe on 12/28/2000.

© Copyright 2000 Globe Newspaper Company.


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to crack down on criminals.  W

[CTRL] American Anarchism / Libertarianism vs Socialism

2000-12-29 Thread flw

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Hello List:

For those poor misguided souls who still think Socialism as reflecting
the true spirit of American Reform and Progressive Politics.
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[CTRL] Psychiatric Racketeers II

2000-12-29 Thread PM Kansan1225

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  Darius wrote:

>Subject: Re: Psychiatric Racketeers
>From: "Darius" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: 12/28/00 1:43 PM Central Standard Time
>Message-id: 
>
>Robin Faichney: God, he's good!
>Kansan1225: Thank you for your comments.  Of course, God knows I am good, He
>made me this way.
>
>Try reading the last two lines, but give Kansan the voice of HAL9000.
>Creepy, huh?
>
>Sometimes I am gripped with the suspicion that Kansan1225 is actually an
>artificially intelligent computer program run by a malevolent yet fun-loving
>computer genius. The AI is hooked up to the Encyclopedia Britannica and is
>programmed to search for coincidences which it then cross-references with a
>database of CLuM-related facts that were written by Thomas Pynchon in the
>mid 1960s and donated to this mad genius. The end result is page after page
>of conspiratorial fun.
>
>But I must congratulate Kansan1225 on one thing: he provides original (maybe
>even insightful) postings laden with facts and analysis, always a welcome
>breather from the usual "What's your favorite book, everybody?" kind of
>tripe that one usually finds on a newsgroup.
>
>Kansan1225 gives us something to think about.
>
>Huzzah!
>
>-Darius
>http://classicgames.org : Biting sarcasm. Classic DOS shareware.
>
>

  Hello.  I am not a computer expert, just a Conspiracy investigator.  I
think the reason my posts remain interesting is because my theories dovetail
with reality.

  Case in point:  I had written in 1999 that November 22 is a favorite
day for U.S. Presidents and Vice-Presidents to die on.  And here it happens
that Dick Cheney has a heart attack on November 22, 2000.

  Was his heart attack a "preventive sacrifice"?

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[CTRL] Fwd: Legal Scholars Say Government Regs. Led To Boston Shootings

2000-12-29 Thread kl

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Legal Scholars Say Government Regs. Led to Boston Shootings
By Sierra Times - Posted: 12.29.00

Government’s Warrantless Search & Attempted Warrantless
Seizure Leads to Shooting Rampage; Boston Again the Scene of
Tax Revolt; Legal Scholar Says Government Evasion of
Constitutional Requirements for Tax Searches and Seizures Led to
Killings

Reports indicate an employee of a Boston Internet consulting firm
shot and killed seven co-workers who apparently participated in
plans to honor warrantless government searches for and seizures
of the employee’s earnings, accrued and future.

The law, constitutional and statutory, requires a Fourth Amendment
warrant, executive or judicial, for tax searches and seizures, but the
IRS has routinely operated without them, provoking an outcry,
producing litigation, and fomenting office stress that has now
resulted in violence. "Without a valid warrant, no legally valid proof
of a tax debt exists," said Virginia L. Cropsey, J.D., a graduate of
Wayne State University School of Law and the University of
Michigan, and author of an Internet newsletter and new website
that expose the legal insufficiency of IRS notices of levy.

"The Fourth Amendment accords protection to a person’s "effects,"
Cropsey says, "and that includes a person’s accounts receivable."
The Fourth Amendment was inspired by the 1761 speech in
Boston against the writs of assistance by James Otis, an attorney
engaged by the merchants of Boston. British issuance of the writs
of assistance, which are similar to the current IRS "process" led to
the Revolutionary War. A young John Adams, later second
President of the United States, heard the Otis speech and was
inspired to draft a provision, Article XIV, for the 1780
Massachusetts Declaration of Rights, which later became the
basic language for the Fourth Amendment, Cropsey says. At the
time of the construction of the Bill of Rights, Richard Henry Lee,
Senator from Virginia, and an ancestor of Robert E. Lee, saw to it
the word "effects" rather than "possessions" was used in the
Fourth Amendment, so that accounts receivable, which would
include the apparent shooter, Michael McDermott’s earnings, have
Fourth Amendment protection.

This means, and the 4th and 5th Amendment pre-judgment seizure
case law shows, that a warrant is required, according to Cropsey.
Additionally, wages are special property for purposes of pre-
judgment seizure under the Supreme Court decision in Sniadach v.
Family Finance Corp. You can’t seize property for taxes in this
country pre-judgment without a sworn statement, says Cropsey.
"Certainly the government should have to swear the debt is owed
and demonstrate probable cause for these searches and seizures.
The IRS has no business writing your employer about you and
interfering with your employment relations without proper
authorization."


Recently Cropsey showed that the Fourth Amendment’s "no
warrants" clause was intended by the Framers to require at a
minimum, an executive branch warrant for tax seizures. “I call it ‘all
about adjectives,’” said Cropsey. “I read the case law more
carefully than most attorneys, and noted that the Supreme Court
said in its 1977 opinion in GM Leasing that a judicial warrant was
necessary for entry into private premises for tax seizures. I knew
from the plain language of the Fourth Amendment, and from
research I did on the 1762 case of Entick v. Carrington & Three
Other King’s Messengers, a British sedition case, and from other
research, that at least an executive branch warrant was necessary
for other tax seizures. I’m a bit like the kid in “6th Sense” – I don’t
see dead people, but I see something the others didn’t due to my
careful reading of the Fourth Amendment’s 'no warrants' clause – I
see executive branch warrants."

These executive branch warrants were held to be required for federal
tax seizures. Pre-1954 case law exposed in a 1998 opinion in
Williams v. Boulder Dam Credit Union by Clark County Nevada
Magistrate Victor Miller held the executive branch warrant is
required, Cropsey says.  Cases concerning the issue of the
warrant requirement are just beginning to make their way through
the courts, she says. In order to avoid a Fourth Amendment test,
the government does not cross the line and technically seize the
property; it has not been using the language obfuscated case law
says is required for seizure – "is seized and levied upon,"
according to Cropsey, who says she spent over 1000 hours
researching the issue and who has 60 pages briefed on the subject
in the Michigan Court of Appeals, as well as on the question of
whether private sector employers are required to withhold wages
without a signed wage withholding order in effect.

"They used quite a few standard legal tricks. It was a textbook case
of stealthy encroachment." The levy situation leaves banks and
employers subject to suit on contracts, and without a defense that
they honored a levy under 26 U.S.C. 6331 & 6332 since no levy

Re: [CTRL] What Bush Should Do In His First 24 Hours as President-OFF list answer

2000-12-29 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld

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From: "Birds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> You have not changed one bit.  You say some great things here.
> Then you turn around and attack someone.  This is called flaming.
> You seem to like to flame.  There is debating and there is flaming.
> I did not know what I did was a bad thing to do.  I was not
> flaming Amelia.  I was angry and expressing my feelings.

Oh, so when YOU do it, it is just a case of being 'angry and expressing my feelings'; 
but when anyone else
expresses their feelings towards you, that is 'flaming' in your opinion?



> Why are you always so defensive when it comes to child abuse?

Show one post of mine where I am 'so defensive when it comes to child abuse'...


> You are not qualified to talk
> about the tunnels because you do not know nothing about.

And we are to presume YOU do?



> The McMartin case involved way more than just the preschool.

Which is EXACTLY what I have been saying...yet all the posts focus solely on the 
preschool faculty who went to
trial...


> I will delete
> your post and not read it.  Because you will draw me in just
> like you want to so I will take the bait.  Well, I don't like to fish.

So you are admitting that you have no backbone or strength of character...?   ;-)


June

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[CTRL] What Bush Should Do In His First 24 Hours as President-OFF list answer

2000-12-29 Thread Birds

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June,

You have not changed one bit.  You say some great things here.  Then you turn around 
and attack someone.  This is called flaming.
You seem to like to flame.  There is debating and there is flaming.  I did not know 
what I did was a bad thing to do.  I was not
flaming Amelia.  I was angry and expressing my feelings.  Something that you are 
unable to do.  You are a flamer and will always be
a flamer.  What are you so angry about that you have to flame others?  Why me?  Why 
not just give me your opinion.  This was a
direct attack on my character and this is what Kris said he wanted to stop.  I don't 
attack your character.

Regarding Smart News, Neil Brick has done many many wonderful things about ritual 
abuse, the Masons and mind control and etc.  He
continues to post wonderful things that are true.  He helps people all the time.  He 
is a very kind man who gives and gives.  His
newsletters help a lot of people.  Why are you always so defensive when it comes to 
child abuse?  You are not qualified to talk
about the tunnels because you do not know nothing about.  The McMartin case involved 
way more than just the preschool.  The
Illuminati helped with this place.  Now they are very intelligent on how to build 
anything they need to.  Tunnels were found on this
property afterwards and the DA did not want to hear anything about it and as soon as 
possible, someone bought the house so no one
could go on the premises anymore.  Ted Gunderson is the one who has researched this 
and I do not have the literature right now.
About unsubbing, I am not going to unsub because of someone like yourself and others 
who like to flame.  I know who they are and I
will start using my delete key.  I also will not continue this thread either.  This is 
all I am going to say on this.  I will delete
your post and not read it.  Because you will draw me in just like you want to so I 
will take the bait.  Well, I don't like to fish.

Birds
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From: "Birds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The
> question was what Bush should doI said get killed.
> I did not say that I was going to kill  him.

What you said is enough to get a list closed down.


> I was making a joke which I thought was good.

It was pretty sick -- which explains why YOU thought it was good.


> This list just is not healthy for me.

So unsub.



> The only reason I stay on is the good information Kris gives and Smart
> News and and others with some real truths.

The only thing I've seen lately from 'Smartnews' is rehashing the same old articles 
about the McMartin
tunnels -- while pointedly ignoring the points I raised on the subject.



> It appears people are challenging
> the McMartin tunnels and how is it possible?

Who?

I've never questioned the tunnels, only pointed out that the people who went to trial 
are NOT the ones who
should be focused on.



> Anyone could build a tunnel who is strong enough.

Exactly.

Although it takes a fair amount of skill to build a complex of them, and never have 
the neighbors suspect
anything.  Also takes skill to build a complex of them that last for decades without 
collapsing.  Hardly
something capable of a weekend handyman.

Who poured those cement slabs, and why didn't anyone in the area notice?


June

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[CTRL] What Bush Should Do In His First 24 Hours as President

2000-12-29 Thread Birds

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Amelia,

Please accept my humblest apologies. I just got so angry and it is probably just that 
Bush did win and is in office.  But a lot of
the anger is that he got there fraudently.  Was not a fair election.  You were just 
trying to educate me.  I never did think about
the words I was saying.  Something better would have been "remove him from office".  
My anger is at this country because I am a
survivor and really know just like all of you here know what really goes on.  My anger 
is now into some grieving.  Anyway, this was
off-list stuff so very sorry.
It really was meant to be a joke and nobody else complained except one person.

Birds
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Birds,
Re-read my post.  It is to Jayson and no where do I mention you at all.  I
was referring to his stating that he had the ammo and how many would need to
be taken down to find an acceptable one, etc.  I am merely stating a fact
that ANY threat against a presidential party is required by law to be
thoroughly investigated by the Secret Service.  That is the law and I did
not write it.  It was written in a time of actual political assassinations
and attempts.  It was meant as a word of caution as one never knows who is
on a large list such as this one.
Amelia

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[CTRL] Superbugs' soar

2000-12-29 Thread Amelia

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'Superbugs' soar

Hospitals report rise in multidrug-resistant infections
A new report says samples of the deadly Streptococcus bacteria that resist
not only penicillin but also two other powerful antibiotics jumped 64 per
cent in only three years.


By Robert Bazell
NBC NEWS

Dec. 27 -  It's a danger of staggering proportions. Every year, one in 20
hospitalized Americans - 1.8 million people - develop an infection, with
88,000 of them dying. The biggest threat: "supergerms" resistant to
antibiotics.
THE PROBLEM IS growing worse. In a new study out Wednesday, the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that samples of the
deadly Streptococcus bacteria that resist not only penicillin but also two
other powerful antibiotics jumped 64 per cent in only three years.
   "The key finding is that we discovered strains that were already
resistant to one drug were picking up additional resistance to other
antibiotics," said the CDC's Dr. Cynthia Whitney. Her research appears in
The New England Journal of Medicine.

In the decades since the first life-saving antibiotic, penicillin, was
discovered, the inappropriate use of antibiotics has yielded these wonder
drugs less and less effective. Read on to learn more about antibiotic
resistance and what you can do to help prevent it.





   Michael Fowler knows the deadly threat all too well. While
hospitalized for arthritis surgery, his wife Dulcey was infected with
antibiotic-resistant bacteria. Doctors struggled in vain to save her.
   "Then they told me they could keep her alive on the ventilator for a
while," Fowler recalls, "but she was just sinking and it was kinda
 hopeless."

  Can anything be done to combat the danger? Dr. Barry Farr, head of
infection control program at the University of Virginia Medical Center in
Charlottesville, says hospitals are more dangerous than ever. With shorter
stays for many procedures mandated by insurance, patients who remain in the
hospitals are often seriously ill, with weakened immune systems.
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 "They're very sick," Farr says. "They're at higher risk and the
infection, the bugs, that are around are more of a risk to them."
   To cut the risk, UV Medical Center frequently takes cultures from
patients - five to 10 times as often as many similar hospitals. The goal: to
spot antibiotic-resistant germs before they make a patient sick.
"It's only when you have a sort of a surveillance culturing
mechanism, a policy, and are regularly looking for them that you know they'
re there," he explains.
   A patient carrying resistant germs is placed in isolation. The
hospital staff, even visitors, must wear gowns and gloves when they visit to
stop the infection from spreading.
   How well do the infection control methods work? Officials at UV
surveyed several similar-sized hospitals that don't use this strict method
and found that their rates of antibiotic resistant infection were, on
average, five times higher.
   Unfortunately patients are often kept in the dark. Hospitals are not
required to reveal their infection rates. In fact, experts say, many are
actually cutting infection control programs in order to save money.
   "A lot of hospitals and long-term care facilities are putting their
heads in the sand regarding infection control," says UV's Michael Osterholm.
   And that, experts say, will only increase the deadly threat.

   Robert Bazell is the chief science correspondent for NBC News.

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[CTRL] Research

2000-12-29 Thread Amelia

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> Just as there is "junk science" and "junk law" there is also "junk
research."  One type of "junk research" is what I think of as "Kevin Bacon
research."

Most of you are familiar with the game of "Kevin Bacon" but I will very
briefly explain for those who may not be.  The pretext of the game is that
any contrmporary film star of any significance can be connected to Kevin
Bacon is five moves or fewer.  In other words, the film star may not have
actualy been in a film with Kevin Bacon but will have been in a film with
someone who was and if not, thta person will have been in a film with
someone who was and so on up to five times removed from qctually starring in
a film with Bacon.  But the connection is always there.

This is the way many people research.  It especialy lends itself to someone
striving to obtain a predetermined result--their "Kevin Bacon."  This is
also how things like the McCarthy hearings ALWAYS found a communist
connection in their investigations.

Given enough moves, virtually anything can be connected, anything and
anybody.  It can connect a current US President to a defunct and defeated
European political party of fifty years ago with all sorts of non-existent
implications.  It can find a communist behind every bush or a government
agent.

To aid all those who really love this "connection" method of research and
think it "proves" something, here is a little tool to help you out in making
wild and meaningless "connections."

Try it!  It's fun.
Amelia


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