[CTRL] The Catholic Connections to Lincolns Murder
http://www.weirdload.com/lincoln.html The President, the Pope, and the Pastor The Catholic Connections to Lincoln’s Murder Pastor Charles Chiniquy , born in 1809, was a noted French Canadian ex-priest who left the Roman confession after a long struggle with the bishop of Chicago over property (among other issues). His most important book, Fifty Years in the Church of Rome is powerful, part autobiography, part diatribe, and a scathing indictment of the Roman Catholic Church. The grim picture he paints of greedy bishops and lascivious priests sounds so familiar, it proves that in some respects at least the Church is indeed changeless through the ages. Charles Chiniquy was a famous and respected priest known as “apostle of temperance to Canada” for his work promoting sobriety. Hence the shock of his leaving was that much greater. No taint of scandal clung to him, despite the efforts of the Catholic hierarchy to discredit him after he left the Roman Church. In his book, he claims he was physically assaulted numerous times, even being stoned on occasion, by papist mobs for speaking out. He ultimately became an independent Catholic bishop and a revered founder of the Community Church movement. Chiniquy may have had an ax to grind but he was no raving lunatic. After all, he was a personal friend of Honest Abe’s and owed him his freedom, if not his life. He even visited him several times at the White House. The future president had saved him from prison and probable death during his legal battles with the minions of the bishop of Chicago in the late 1850s, and Chiniquy said he told Lincoln at the time that that alone was enough to make him a marked man. The evidence Chiniquy gathered was highly circumstantial but intriguing, nonetheless. The Conspirators and the Church In the first place, Booth and the other conspirators, Chiniquy claimed, were devout or at least closet Roman Catholics. Priests frequented Mrs. Surratt’s boardinghouse, which served as the plotters’ rendezvous. Indeed, several priests actually lived there. Her son, John Surrat, escaped the noose (unlike his devout mother), by fleeing to Canada where priests harbored him. When he was finally discovered and returned for trial in 1867, believe it or not, he was serving in the Pope’s guard at the Vatican. Chiniquy claimed that the Roman Church, because of its autocratic principles, favored the South, and in any case wanted civil war to weaken America and its support of liberty in general. He claimed that Lincoln was well aware of this, and that the hierarchy had fomented conspiracies against him, but did not make it publicly known, lest it “become a war of extermination on both sides.” The false rumors that Lincoln had been born Catholic, Chiniquy said, were spread by the Jesuits to make it appear that Lincoln was an apostate and renegade, and thus deserving of the ultimate fate the Church saved for heretics — death. Chiniquy claimed that the South would never have dared attack the North without assurances of covert assistance from the Church. He did make some extreme claims, such as that Beauregard was chosen to fire the opening shot at Ft. Sumter because he was Catholic, that the bishop of New York was responsible for the anti-draft riots and the failure of Meade, a Catholic, to pursue Lee after Gettysburg was due to the direct intercession of a Jesuit. Even more intriguing is the fact, attested by sworn affidavits, that priests at the monastery near the town of St. Joseph in Minnesota, far beyond the reach of train and telegraph, were talking about the killings of both Lincoln and Seward some four hours before the attacks occurred. Chiniquy claimed that the clergy in Minnesota were “intimate friends” of those lurking at Mrs. Surratt’s nest of spies, though he produced no proof of this. However, in 1864 Pope Pius IX wrote Jefferson Davis a letter that was made public, addressing him as the President of the Confederacy — in effect becoming the only foreign power to recognize the South. Chiniquy claimed that he told Lincoln that this was “a poisoned arrow thrown by the pope at you personally and it will be more than a miracle if it be not your irrevocable warrant of death.” Why would the Pope favor the South? The papacy had been humiliated, if not humbled, by Napoleon and the excesses of the French Revolution. Pius, though he ascended to the throne as a liberal, became a bitter reactionary. More than once, the French army had to save him from the Italians rebels seeking to reuinte the peninsula. During his extremely long reign, the Papal States were forever lost and the pope became a prisoner of the Vatican. But having lost his grip on the state, Pius acted ruthlessly to make sure he had total control over the Church, by convening the First Vatican Council and ramrodding through the doctrine of “papal infallibility.” This new dogma, like that of the Immaculate Conception of Mary
[CTRL] FAA Confirms Milops Over East Coast
http://www.geocities.com/lord_visionary/faa_confirms.htm FAA CONFIRMS ONGOING MILITARY OPERATION OVER U.S. EAST COAST PORTLAND, ME -- An FAA official in charge of air traffic control over the northeastern United States has confirmed an ongoing military operation in America’s skies. In an exclusive taped interview with freelance radio reporter S. T. Brendt, the Air Traffic Control (ATC) manager said he was told on as many as four occasions in March, 2001 to re-route commercial air traffic around military aircraft taking part in an undisclosed aerial operation over the northeastern seaboard. On her way to the interview location, Brendt observed six big jets laying brilliant white lines above a broken cloud layer. Instead of dissipating like normal condensation trails, these lingering plumes grew wider and wider, intersecting and merging. Speaking on condition of strict anonymity as intense Chemtrail activity continued overhead, this Deep Sky federal aviation source expressed concern over the classified nature of military operations repeatedly conducted at altitudes between 37,000 and 40,000 feet. While air traffic controllers normally ignore air traffic above 10,000 feet, the ATC manager said he was ordered to divert incoming European air traffic away from the military planes. When asked why, he said, I was told there was a military exercise in the area. Of course, they wouldn't give me any of the particulars. The initial FAA disclosure came on March 12, as mass aerial maneuvers saturated northeastern U.S. skies with Xs, circular patterns and parallel lines characteristic of Chemtrail activity reported by pilots, police officers and former military personnel across the United States. Brendt contacted the FAA official after counting more than 30 big jets spreading persistent plumes within 45 minutes. Lou Aubuchont confirmed Brendt's count, noting that during his stint in U.S. Navy intelligence he had never seen a military exercise of such magnitude. After Brendt called in her sightings, assistant WMWV news director Richard Dean counted 370 chemical trails criss-crossing his nearby location for six-and-a-half hours. But local Air Traffic Controllers reported only nine commercial jets on their radars at the time. Thousands of eye-witnesses have reported similar spray activity obscuring North American skies over the past two years. In December, 2000 Canadian aviation authority Terry Stewart investigated a Victoria caller's complaint of intensive Chemtrail activity over the British Columbia capitol. In a taped message, the environmental manager for the Victoria International Airport checked with the control tower and reported, it's a military exercise, U.S. and Canadian air force exercise that's going on. They wouldn't give me any specifics on it. Stewart added that he found the incident - one of hundreds reported over B.C. since the fall of 1998 - very odd. [contact William Thomas for a copy of this audio tape.] The aircraft laying lingering X's and grids over Vancouver Island have been photo-identified as USAF KC-135 and KC-10 aerial refueling tankers. U.S. Air Force Weather Force Specialists intent on fulfilling an official USAF mission to Own The Weather refer to chemical cloud cover spread by high flying tankers as aerial obscuration. Outbreaks of acute upper respiratory and gastrointestinal illness, fatigue, headaches, joint pain, dizziness, and nose bleeds have filled hospital emergency rooms across the U.S. and Canada following heavy spray days. In November, 1999, 550 residents of the small town of Espanola, Ontario presented a petition to the Canadian government demanding an explanation and an end to aerial spraying by USAF tankers they claimed was making children and adults sick over a 55 square mile area. The Air Force denied flying tankers over Espanola. The Canadian defense ministry has yet to respond to the citizens’ complaint. On Nov. 20,1999, Brendt was admitted to hospital with a gushing nosebleed and pains in her chest after inadvertently photographing dozens of Chemtrail's over Parsonsfield, Maine. Nosebleeds are a common symptom of Chemtrail exposure. Now I know what this is, Brendt says. I never get nosebleeds. About S. T. Brendt Tiffany Brendt has been a broadcast journalist and on-air personality for the past eight years with Maine and New Hampshire radio stations WMWV, WCYY AND WLKZ. Working primarily in the political arena, Ms. Brendt has interviewed candidates for the House of Representatives - most recently Martha Fuller Clark - as well as Presidential candidates Al Gore and Bill Bradley. Her interviews air on the award winning Drive Time News Hour on WMWV. contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph. 207-625-3759 http://pub25.ezboard.com/fsurfingtheapocalypsefrm4.showMessage?topicID=25.topi c
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The U.N. Plan for Global Control
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:06:52 -0400, Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted article [EMAIL PROTECTED], which said: THE U.N. PLAN FOR GLOBAL CONTROL The Habitat II Agenda by Berit Kjos Bicycles instead of cars? Dense apartment clusters instead of single homes? Community rituals instead of churches? "Human rights" instead of religious freedom? The UN Conference on Human Settlements (Habitat II) which met June 3-14 in Istanbul, painted an alarming picture of the 21st century community. The American ways-free speech, individualism, travel, and Christianity-are out. I would think that the statements quoted below would preserve individualism and protect it. It seems to revere the right to belong to the religion of your choice without experiencing the persecution some like to throw around if you belong to "the wrong religion". It's a matter of rights. And anytime we discuss rights, someone always chimes in and says, "You have the right to do anything you want to do as long as it does not infringe on MY rights!" continued below A new set of economic, environmental, and social guidelines are in. Citizenship, democracy, and education have been redefined. Handpicked civil leaders will implement UN "laws", bypassing state and national representatives to work directly with the UN. And politically correct "tolerance"-meaning "the rejection of dogmatism and absolutism" as well as "appreciation" for the world's religions and lifestyles-is "not only a moral duty, it is also a political and legal requirement."1 ...Well, does using free speech to criticize members of another religion infringe on that person's right to practice that religion? Or does the right to free speech have precedence over the freedom to choose your religion? I don't see anything wrong with tolerating or appreciating all the world's religions and lifestyles. I think it's a good thing. Apparently some people can't handle having both freedom of religion and freedom of speech at the same time because it causes too much unrest. Perhap laws against condemning religions and the people who practice them would be something that promotes peace, falling back on the old adage, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." Some might say that once free speech is limited, the arts would certainly suffer since film makers and authors could no longer openly attack things they might personally disagree with. However, other artists would come forward to glorify what was once condemned. I would welcome that with open arms. I enjoy films that show the beauty of different cultures and religions, rather than exploiting and judging their faults, as if ours are superior in some way. Hard to believe? Not for veteran UN observers who faced boos and hisses for expressing concern in open UN assemblies. Nor for pro-family members of NGOs (Non-Governmental Organizations) who faced exclusion from public dialogues for opposing feminist commander Bella Abzug and her radical agenda. And not for those who watched the ecstatic welcome given Fidel Castro and his anti-American diatribe. Yet, our president and our non-elected American delegates, headed by U.S. Secretary Henry Cisneros, endorse this revolutionary plan, and our U.S. Department of Education is already establishing the framework for its local implementation. Why? What is happening? PRO-COMMUNIST IDEALS. "We are the world and the world does not yield to masters nor to suicidal policies," declared Castro, concluding his June 14 plenary remarks aimed at Western capitalist nations. "The world does not accept that a minority of selfish, insane and irresponsible people lead it to annihilation." Sounds like a wise statement to me. Have you watched the business news lately? We are referred to as "consumers". They expect us to consume, and when you consume, some finite resource gets used, whether it be electricity produced by coal and oil, gasoline, or whatever. When "consumers" stop spending their money, capitalists start wrenching their hands in panic and "the economy" is plastered all over the news with politicians and businessmen yelling at each other to do something about it. It IS suicidal! We have a society in America that thrives on the consumption of natural resources, and now the destruction of natural resources, since Bush decided that the economy is more important than the environment. Everyone breathes a sigh of relief when the Dow Jones Industrial Average rebounds and closes 400 points up because it means the gravy train hasn't come to an end yet. "Fidel, Fidel..." shouted the audience. The thunderous applause followed him all the way back to the Cuban section on the other side of the hall, where fans lined up to shake his hand. Why are you so enthusiastic?" I asked some of his fans after the session. "Because he stood up to America," someone answered. "Because he is a living myth," explained another. "He was a simple
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Media Lies Once Again to Declare Bush the Winner
-Caveat Lector- Bill, Unfortunately, I do not think we will ever hear the end of this whining and disinformation from the Gore camps. I do wonder just what they think would have been so different and marvelous had we been treated to yet another term of 'the most ethical'? Did we have more secrets to sell to the Chinese? Did Al and Tipper also need furniture? Were there still people with enough money to buy pardons? Corporations left on which to play the old extortion/racists game? I know they are all corrupt but the lies Gore had already told left him totally without credibility. "I drank a lot of iced tea and was in the bathroom" being my personal favorite, I don't think most Americans could have stomached another four years! But the number of votes left in question are not the 'tens of thousands' of the original lies. Now they want to quibble over every vote! This was to have been the biggest civil rights violation since the legislation of '64! I guess this was an example of telling the "Big Lie." And with the economy in the tank, I cannot imagine why some are so desperate about this. They wanted the stock market to totally crash? More environmental extortion? I just do not understand how the election of an all-but-admitted communist (and we all know that did not work) would have been a good thing. Perhaps we need a few more details and scandals of the inner workings of the past administration to come to light. And they will. Amelia - Original Message - From: "Bill Howard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Media Lies Once Again to Declare Bush the Winner -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/6/01 4:14:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Media Lies Once Again to Declare Bush the Winner It doesn't matter. Gore conceded, Bush was sworn in as President. The end. Bill Howard A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Media Lies Once Again to Declare Bush the Winner
-Caveat Lector- surprisingly naive to see a difference in either party amelia. do oyu really think politics are aboout morals? don't you think that all politicians are in power to serve their own interests? the only difference between left and right is that with the right wing you know where you are with them- they are self confessed protectors of themselves and their business, while the left purport to be speaking and working in the interests of the people while screwing as much out of the people as they can. this is especially easy to see in th UK. forget the personalities involved- anyone with integrity has a hard time in politics- any integrity will be compromised out of them after a short while or else thier carreers will be subdued as soon as integrity shows it's face. forget the personalities- all politicians are interchangeable in the pyramid of power. no party is more moral than the other in practice- especially in a two party state where the differences between the two parties seem as little to be two halves of the one party, nothing more. - Original Message - From: "Amelia" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 9:55 AM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Media Lies Once Again to Declare Bush the Winner -Caveat Lector- Bill, Unfortunately, I do not think we will ever hear the end of this whining and disinformation from the Gore camps. I do wonder just what they think would have been so different and marvelous had we been treated to yet another term of 'the most ethical'? Did we have more secrets to sell to the Chinese? Did Al and Tipper also need furniture? Were there still people with enough money to buy pardons? Corporations left on which to play the old extortion/racists game? I know they are all corrupt but the lies Gore had already told left him totally without credibility. "I drank a lot of iced tea and was in the bathroom" being my personal favorite, I don't think most Americans could have stomached another four years! But the number of votes left in question are not the 'tens of thousands' of the original lies. Now they want to quibble over every vote! This was to have been the biggest civil rights violation since the legislation of '64! I guess this was an example of telling the "Big Lie." And with the economy in the tank, I cannot imagine why some are so desperate about this. They wanted the stock market to totally crash? More environmental extortion? I just do not understand how the election of an all-but-admitted communist (and we all know that did not work) would have been a good thing. Perhaps we need a few more details and scandals of the inner workings of the past administration to come to light. And they will. Amelia - Original Message - From: "Bill Howard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Media Lies Once Again to Declare Bush the Winner -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/6/01 4:14:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Media Lies Once Again to Declare Bush the Winner It doesn't matter. Gore conceded, Bush was sworn in as President. The end. Bill Howard A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said,
Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won
Mr. Shannon, You seem like another dime-a-dozen Limb Idiot clinton-Gore-freak! Those two bungling idiots along with the rest of the traitors in their administration should be arrested, tried, convicted and properly executed for their high treason! Try that on for size Mr. Shannon Butch - Original Message - From: William Shannon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Media try to con the people into believing Bush won In a message dated 4/6/01 8:30:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can't believe anyone is still wasting time about this. You better believe that if Gore really won, the NY TIMES and THE WASHINGTON COMPOST and the other liars would put it in the HEADLINES!Can't believe any self-respecting collie would take the time to essentially defend a Bush either!!! Are you totally ignorant or are you not aware of the SPOOKY and quite questionable bloodline and heritage of the Bush Dynasty??? You seem like another dine-a-dozen LimbIdiot...a Rush-freak. Are you? You're CLEARLY kontrolled...are you clear enough to admit it? Bill.
[CTRL] Capitalism at work: So you think businessmen should control your energy eh?
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/starticles/2001/apr/arst01-040701.htm PGE Bankruptcy Bombshell Deepens California Energy Crisis by Andrew Quinn - Reuters - 04.07.01 SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - California's energy crisis lurched into a dangerous new phase on Friday as Pacific Gas Electric, the state's largest utility, declared bankruptcy and accused Gov. Gray Davis of woefully mismanaging the emergency. While officials vowed that the largest utility bankruptcy in U.S. history would not turn the lights off for the 13 million Californians Pacific Gas Electric serves, it threw a new question mark over the state's ability to get through the summer without more power blackouts. The bankruptcy filing came just one day after Davis outlined a bailout strategy designed to help the cash-strapped utility back to its feet after months of bleeding money thanks to California's botched 1996 power deregulation law. Pacific Gas Electric blamed Davis for forcing it into bankruptcy, saying his plan to save it was unacceptable and charging that in the last three weeks the governor had only bothered to hold one face-to-face meeting to bargain directly with the utility. "The regulatory and political processes have failed us, and now we are turning to the court,'' Robert Glynn, chairman of Pacific Gas Electric, said in a statement. Davis reacted angrily, saying the massive utility had ''dishonored itself'' by asking for bankruptcy protection. "PGE was not pushed into bankruptcy but plunged themselves into bankruptcy for their own strategic advantage -- not the best interests of the people of California,'' Davis said. Analysts said the filing marked the biggest utility bankruptcy in U.S. history and could throw a wrench into Davis' efforts to resolve the power crunch hobbling the nation's most populous state. In its Chapter 11 filing with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Northern District of California, the utility said it owed close to $9 billion because state power deregulation laws block utilities from passing along skyrocketing wholesale power costs to consumers. This law, combined with soaring demand and a lack of new power plants, has created a disastrous energy crunch in California and already caused four days of rolling blackouts across the state and forced state agencies to spend more than $50 million per day for emergency power purchases. More blackouts are feared this summer as higher temperatures lead to increased energy demand, and the growing uncertainty over Pacific Gas Electric's future Friday only added to fears of continued chaos. "This certainly changes the situation pretty significantly and will probably lengthen the crisis rather than shorten it,'' said Gerald Keenan, lead strategy partner at PricewaterhouseCoopers. Utility Will Continue To Operate Pacific Gas Electric is a unit of PGE Corp. which did not file for court protection. The utility, which serves a vast stretch of northern and central California, said it would operate ''subject to the jurisdiction of the Bankruptcy Court,'' meaning the lights will stay on for its customers. The utility has 15 days to complete the paperwork for the bankruptcy filing, and Federal Bankruptcy Judge Dennis Montali has set a May 8 meeting to discuss the next step. In a statement, PGE Corp. Chairman Robert Glynn said the utility felt that talks with regulators and the Davis administration had failed, leaving it no choice but to turn to the court as the best venue to protect its shareholders. With unrecovered costs increasing by more than $300 million per month, Glynn accused Davis of ignoring the deepening financial peril of a company that has been a pillar of California business for almost 100 years. The last straw, Glynn said, was Davis' live television speech on Thursday evening in which the Democratic governor said that any bailout deal would hinge on the utilities' agreement to sell their vast power transmission grid to the state -- a demand that Pacific Gas Electric has resisted. "We listened carefully to the statement and the commentary that followed and this decision is the result,'' Glynn told a news teleconference following the bankruptcy filing. Confusion In Sacramento For Davis, who had billed his Thursday speech outlining rate hikes and conservation as a major step toward resolving the energy crisis, the bankruptcy move came as a shock. While upbraiding Pacific Gas Electric's "selfish'' move, Davis pledged Friday to continue bailout negotiations with Edison International unit Southern California Edison (news - web sites) and hoped to have a result within days, "proving that negotiation, not bankruptcy, is the appropriate path.'' But Glynn said Davis' concentration on the Southern California Edison talks had cost PGE dearly, noting that it had been three weeks since the two sides had had "face-to-face'' talks before one meeting during the last couple of days. "The negotiations we have been involved in since
Re: [CTRL] Capitalism at work: So you think businessmen should control your energy eh?
-Caveat Lector- Joshua forwards PGE Bankruptcy Bombshell Deepens California Energy Crisis MJ WHERE was the demonstration of 'capitalism at work' you claimed in your thread title? Regard$, --MJ Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. -- Martin Luther King, Jr A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Who's to Blame on Global Issues? j2
-Caveat Lector- Please see comment on this article below. -- Nurev = Source: CommonDreams Published on Friday, April 6, 2001 in the Boston Globe Who's to Blame on Global Issues? by Derrick Z. Jackson IT IS NO secret why President Bush is tightening his colonial grip on Earth's environment. He is doing it for us, the ugly Americans who must confess that we enjoy this modern imperialism, our sovereign right to suck the planet dry. Except for some howling environmentalists, there still is no major sign that the average American is seriously offended by Bush's rampage of environmental reversals. The most flagrant have been his abandonment of his campaign promises and the Kyoto accords to curb the industrial carbon dioxide emissions that contribute to global warming. This week USA Today reported that Bush is preparing a blueprint to open up millions of acres of federally protected lands for oil and gas drilling. These lands are currently for scenic or wildlife protection purposes. Bush does not care one whit that he has become a lightning rod of protest from world leaders, ranging from the European Union to the Maldives. British Prime Minister Tony Blair is warning that global warming could be ''catastrophic.'' France's minister for the environment, Dominique Voynet, said that Bush's actions are ''completely provocative and irresponsible.'' German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder said, ''Nobody should be relieved from his responsibility for climate control.'' How the tables have turned on these former imperialists. The British once said the sun never set on their empire. Now it is America that boasts that Sunoco will never set. The environment has become the issue that most nakedly fixes the arrogance of the United States toward the rest of the world, an arrogance not seen since Vietnam. Our notion of globalism is a one-way street. Our corporations exploit the cheapest of labor for our clothes. Our oil companies foul the marshlands of the poorest of people for our gasoline. Our cigarette companies dump cancer on the least healthy, and our trash food and soda companies addict the most malnourished to our sugar, for what? The sake of our 401(k)s. But when it comes to the fact that our 4 percent of the world's population belches out 25 percent of the industrial greenhouse gases into Earth's atmosphere, we invoke the Global Rule. ''Them that gots the globe make the rules.'' You would expect nothing less in a nation where indulgence is now an imperative. The proof is in the polls. A new Time/CNN poll found that 75 percent of Americans considered global warming a very serious or fairly serious problem. Last year a Gallup Poll found that 67 percent of Americans said that the environment should be given a higher priority than economic development. All that goes up the exhaust pipe when decisions get personal. Now that gasoline prices are up and Californians are being held hostage by the power companies and their suppliers, a Fox/Opinion Dynamics poll found that 46 percent of Americans favor relaxing environmental standards to build more power plants, compared with 39 percent that do not. In the Time/CNN poll only 48 percent of Americans said that they would be willing to pay 25 cents more for a gallon of gasoline. Earth Day is now officially marked on many calendars, but in America, the percentage of Americans who consider themselves ''environmentalists'' has plummeted from 78 percent in a 1991 Gallup/CNN/USA Today poll to 50 percent in 1999. So Bush did speak for us when he said, ''In terms of the CO2 issue ... we will not do anything that harms our economy. Because, first things first, are the people who live in America.'' Translated, Bush said, ''We will not do anything that restricts our right to drive SUVs that get 12 miles a gallon in the city.'' Bush did speak for us when he said he wanted more ''energy supply so that businesses can grow and people can heat their homes. We've got a shortage of energy in America.'' Translated, Bush said, ''I'm interested in getting more energy supply so that we can have more Wal-Marts and Best Buys, help the wealthy heat and cool their 10,000-square-foot homes, and maintain night-game revenues for the Giants, Dodgers, A's, and Angels.'' Bush does speak for us because we are now the world's most self- absorbed people. Our desires have become a demand on global resources that too much echoes the imperialism that once sucked developing continents dry of people and raw materials. The sun has set on that kind of an empire. Americans are not ready for Sunoco to set. The way we behave, we will not believe in global warming or the end of our empire until we cannot see the sun at all. Copyright 2001 Globe Newspaper Company I have no qualms with anything mentioned in this article. I agree with it. But, I do
Re: [CTRL] Eli Lilly's Sarafem -- same as Prozac?
-Caveat Lector- Personally, I'd rather have a pill that GIVES me PMS the other 24 days of the cycle... Think of the fun I could have inflicting my moods on my family and friends! wicked grin Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bush nominees under fire for link with Contras
-Caveat Lector- BUSH NOMINEES UNDER FIRE FOR LINK WITH CONTRAS Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles The Guardian (london) Friday April 6, 2001 Duncan Campbell in Los Angeles George Bush's nominee for the post of US ambassador to the United Nations concealed from Congress human rights abuses in central America that were carried out by death squads trained and armed by the CIA. John Negroponte, Mr Bush's choice for the UN job, and Otto Reich, who has been named by the president to a senior Latin American post, were also both closely linked with the illegal contra war against the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. Their nomination has dismayed human rights activists in the US and Latin America. Critics hope that previously secret information about their former roles may emerge as the battle against the appointments begins. Mr Negroponte was US ambassador to Honduras from 1981 to 1985 and as such was in a key position to assist in the war against the Sandinista government in Nicaragua and rebels in El Salvador. At the time, Honduras was known as "USS Honduras", such was its position as a base for attacks against leftwing groups. The CIA helped to train an organisation called Battalion 3-16, which carried out the torture and "disappearing" of 184 people in Honduras deemed to be politically suspect or communist sympathisers. Until recently, some members of the battalion had been living in the US, but were deported just as Mr Bush's selection of Mr Negroponte was announced. Now one of the battalion members is threatening to blow the whistle on US involvement in training the death squads. General Discua Elvir, a founder of the battalion, who has been deported to Honduras from Miami, appeared on television in Honduras and told the local newspaper La Prensa that he was brought to the US to coordinate the battalion with the contras. The rightwing contras were illegally funded by arms sales to Iran. One of George Bush senior's parting acts as president in 1992 was to pardon those implicated, thus ending the possibility of the full exposure of his and the Reagan administration's involvement. Mr Negroponte's predecessor in Honduras, Jack Binns, was replaced after alerting Washington about extra-judicial executions by the Honduran authorities. Mr Binns has now told In These Times magazine: "Negroponte would have had to be deliberately blind not to know about human rights violations... One of the things a departing ambassador does is prepare a briefing book, and one of those issues we included [in the briefing book] was how to deal with the escalation of human rights issues." "It's very troubling", Reed Brody, of Human Rights Watch in New York, said yesterday. "When John Negroponte was ambassador he looked the other way when serious atrocities were committed. One would have to wonder what kind of message the Bush administration is sending about human rights by this appointment." Mr Negroponte is said to be the specific choice of Colin Powell, the secretary of state. An ex-Honduran congressman, Efrain Diaz, told the Baltimore Sun which investigated US involvement in the region in 1995: "Their attitude [Mr Negroponte and other senior US officials] was one of tolerance and silence. They needed Honduras to loan its territory more than they were concerned about innocent people being killed." On several occasions, Mr Negroponte also met Colonel Oliver North, who coordinated support for the contras within the White House. The Sun's investigation found that the CIA and US embassy knew of numerous abuses but continued to support Battalion 3-16 and ensured that the embassy's annual human rights report did not contain the full story. Mr Negroponte, who retired from government service in 1997, has claimed that when abuses were brought to his attention he took action. Mr Bush has also nominated another figure from the Iran-contra era as assistant secretary of state for western hemisphere affairs. Cuban-born Otto Reich headed the state department's now defunct office of public diplomacy for Latin America and the Caribbean between 1983 and 1986. It was accused of engaging in illegal propaganda activities to promote the Reagan administration's policies in support of the contras. http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,7369,469208,00.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
Re: [CTRL] The Sixth Extinction --- Reply J2
-Caveat Lector- William Shannon wrote: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/9902/fngm/index.html The Sixth Extinction Text by Virginia Morell The first orange rays of the sun are just beginning to touch the saw grass prairie of Everglades National Park in Florida when our helicopter pilot lifts off from a small airport nearby. He turns low over the park, skimming above the gray-green grasses and morning mist. Here and there small stands of pencil-thin native slash pine show dark green against the pale grasslands. But its the open marshy prairie that we seek, home to the endangered Cape Sable seaside sparrow. Heading south, the pilot searches for a particular point on a transect map, then banks and flies due west. Twenty minutes later were on the ground. Heres your first spot, he says over the radio to Stuart Pimm, the conservation biologist seated beside me in the back. In front another biologist, Sonny Bass, gives us the thumbs-up sign. Pimm and I, dressed in olive green flight suits and white helmets, jump into the wet marsh and run a short way from the helicopter. For a moment this seems almost like a scene from Apocalypse Now. The helicopters blades whip the air, bending the grasses in a wide swath all around and obliterating every sound except the wap-wap-wap of its rotors. As it peels away, ferrying Bass to the next site a kilometer away, Pimm removes his helmet and turns to me. Welcome, he says, his voice rising above the fading roar of the helicopter, to the front lines of saving biodiversity. An avuncular researcher from the University of Tennessee, Pimm is not merely being theatrical. Based on his and his colleagues calculations, some 50 percent of the worlds flora and fauna could be on a path to extinction within a hundred years. And everything is affected: fish, birds, insects, plants, and mammals. By Pimms count 11 percent of birds, or 1,100 species out of the worlds nearly 10,000, are on the edge of extinction; its doubtful that the majority of these 1,100 will live much beyond the end of the next century. The picture is not pretty for plants either. A team of respected botanists recently reported that one in eight plants is at risk of becoming extinct. Its not just species on islands or in rain forests or just birds or big charismatic mammals, says Pimm. Its everything and its everywhere. Its here in this national park. It is a worldwide epidemic of extinctions. Such a rate of extinction has occurred only five times since complex life emerged, and each time it was caused by a catastrophic natural disaster. For instance, geologists have found evidence that a meteorite crashed into Earth 65 million years ago, leading to the demise of the dinosaurs. That was the most recent major extinction. Today the Earth is again in extinctions gripbut the cause has changed. The sixth extinction is not happening because of some external force. It is happening because of us, Homo sapiens, This is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. Enviros are going to have to stop saying this if they want credibility. This global warming IS A NATURAL PROCESS OF THE ICE AGE CYCLE. Humans are NOT responsible. Humans are accelerating the process and degrading the environment indeed. BUT THEY ARE NOT THE CAUSE Joshua2 an exterminator species, as one scientist has characterized humankind. The collective actions of humansdeveloping and paving over the landscape, clear-cutting forests, polluting rivers and streams, altering the atmospheres protective ozone layer, and populating nearly every place imaginableare bringing an end to the lives of creatures across the Earth. I think we must ask ourselves if this is really what we want to do to Gods creation, says Pimm. To drive it to extinction? Because extinction really is irreversible; species that go extinct are lost forever. This is not like Jurassic Park. We cant bring them back. In Pimms eyes people should be stewards of their neighboring species. Thats why hes here at dawn in the Everglades, fighting to save the life of a little brown-and-white songbird with a smattering of gold feathers above its eyes. Found only in this park, Big Cypress National Preserve, and nearby areas, the Cape Sable sparrow was once fairly common in the Everglades hundred square miles [160.9 square kilometers] of prairie lands, which lie adjacent to its better known river of grass. In 1992 the sparrows population registered a healthy 6,400 individuals. By 1995 the sparrows numbers had taken a nosedive: Its population dropped by 60 percent to 2,600. It was clearly on its way out, says Pimm, turning to set his helmet on the ground. And to me that was unconscionable. In a national park of this size [the Everglades encompasses 1.5 million acres] (.6075 million hectares) and in the richest country in the world, species shouldnt be going
Re: [CTRL] There's hope for Colleen/Saba after all. Thank youRobertWhite.
-Caveat Lector- YnrChyldzWyld wrote: -Caveat Lector- On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Nurev Ind. wrote: I think that a replacement head from a monkey would greatly improve Saba's IQ. Science is a glorious thing when put to humanitarian use. "Humanitarian" according to whom? Seems to me that transplanting a monkey head onto Aleisha/Colleen would be demeaning to the whole simian race... What do you have against the poor monkey? ;-) June I'm sorry June. I believe that humans are more important than animals. Now I do admit that classifying Colleen/Saba as a human is quite a stretch. I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt because I have yet to see a simian work a keyboard. But I might be wrong. In any case, there has never been a more obvious need for a monkey head transplant. A successful head transplant would mean that it would take eons for her to learn how to use a keyboard again. This could only be a good thing considering all the stupid shit she constantly throws like feces onto our screens. I would even offer to do the transplant myself. But I suspect she doesn't like me. I think this because she keeps calling me an asshole. Here I try to be considerate and caring, and she calls me an asshole. Sheesh! Even if she doesn't let me do it, I would be willing to take up a collection from list members and find a retarded monkey to improve Coleen/Saba's condition. Any takers? I mean givers? J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] How it works: NAFTA does it's job.
-Caveat Lector- http://www.essential.org/monitor/mm2001/01april/corp1.html The Multinational Monitor April 2001 - VOLUME 22 - NUMBER 4 ___ T R A D E M A D N E S S ! ___ NAFTA's Investor "Rights" A Corporate Dream, A Citizen Nightmare By Mary Bottari The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) includes an array of new corporate investment rights and protections that are unprecedented in scope and power. NAFTA allows corporations to sue the national government of a NAFTA country in secret arbitration tribunals if they feel that a regulation or government decision affects their investment in conflict with these new NAFTA rights. If a corporation wins, the taxpayers of the "losing" NAFTA nation must foot the bill. This extraordinary attack on governments' ability to regulate in the public interest is a key element of the proposed NAFTA expansion called the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA). NAFTA's investment chapter (Chapter 11) contains a variety of new rights and protections for investors and investments in NAFTA countries. Specifically, Article 1110 of NAFTA guarantees foreign investors compensation from the NAFTA governments for any direct government expropriation (i.e., nationalization) or any other action that is "tantamount to" an "indirect expropriation." In addition, Article 1102 provides for "national treatment," which means that governments must accord to companies of other NAFTA countries no less favorable treatment than they give to their own companies. Article 1105 contains a "minimum standard of treatment" provision, which includes vague prose about fair and equitable treatment in accordance with international law. If a company believes that a NAFTA government has violated these new investor rights and protections, it can initiate a binding dispute resolution process for monetary damages before a trade tribunal offering none of the basic due process or openness guarantees afforded in national courts. These so-called "investor-to-state" cases are litigated in the special international arbitration bodies of the World Bank and the United Nations, which are closed to public participation, observation and input. A three-person panel composed of professional arbitrators listens to arguments in the case, with powers to award an unlimited amount of taxpayer dollars to corporations whose NAFTA investor privileges and rights they judge to have been impacted. Corporate investors have used these unprecedented NAFTA investment protections to challenge national and local laws, governmental decisions and even governmental provision of services in all three NAFTA countries. To date, companies have filed more than a dozen cases, claiming damages of more than US$13 billion [see "The Chapter 11 Dossier"]. "TANTAMOUNT TO EXTORTION" In the largest Chapter 11 suit yet brought against the United States, the Canadian corporation Methanex in 1999 sued the U.S. government for $970 million because of a California executive order phasing out the sale of a Methanex product. Methanex claims that California's phase-out of methyl tertiary butyl ether (MTBE), a gasoline additive, violates the company's special investor rights granted under NAFTA because the California environmental policy limits the corporation's ability to sell MTBE. If a NAFTA tribunal decides that California's environmental policy violates NAFTA's investor protections, the U.S. government can be held liable for the corporation's lost profits from not selling MTBE. The case is "a clear threat to California state sovereignty and democratic governance," says Martin Wagner of the California-based Earthjustice Legal Defense Fund. If Methanex succeeds, California will be under pressure to rescind its executive order, to lessen the damage award. Associated with human neurotoxicological effects, such as dizziness, nausea and headaches and found to be an animal carcinogen with the potential to cause human cancer, MTBE has been found in ground water and drinking wells around California. On March 25, 1999, California required the removal of MTBE from gasoline sold in the state by December 31, 2002. Governor Gray Davis declared that "on balance, there is significant risk to the environment from using MTBE in gasoline in California." Methanex claims that adding MTBE to gasoline reduces air pollution. However, a 1998 University of California at Davis (UC-Davis) report, which informed the government action, found that "there is no significant additional air quality benefit to the use of oxygenates such as MTBE in reformulated gasoline." The report found "significant risks and costs associated with water contamination due to the use of MTBE." The report noted that "MTBE is highly soluble in water and will transfer readily to groundwater from gasoline leaking from underground storage tanks, pipelines and other components of the
[CTRL] Guns deter crime (Duh!)
-Caveat Lector- ...and the deterrent effect is difficult to measure. Another fascinating example of what the gun haters "think": Maybe the police could carry fake guns. http://news.excite.com/news/uw/010407/university-212 Marquette U. police say wearing guns makes them more effective Updated 12:00 PM ET April 6, 2001 By Becca Mader Adam S. Kirby The Marquette Tribune Marquette U. (U-WIRE) MILWAUKEE -- In the minds of criminals, perception is reality. At least, that is the belief of Department of Public Safety Chief Larry Rickard and Crime Prevention Specialist Lt. Michael McNiel. They feel that officers who carry guns are more powerful on the streets and in the face of danger. Their thoughts aren't isolated. They echo those expressed by police and public safety officers from college campuses in rural areas such as Cornell University to urban centers such as the University of Detroit-Mercy. With arming "the perception from the criminal element is that you are the real police," said Chief Robert Morse of the Boston College Police Department. According to Morse, a weapon acts as a strong deterrent to criminals. In fact, some students -- including former MUSG President senior Andy Stith -- have wondered aloud if simply carrying a fake gun would have the same deterrent effect. McNiel said he thought having the gun is more important than actually using it. "Criminals really do look at us, and based on what they see, what equipment we have, they make a determination on whether they're going to resist us," McNiel said. "Having a firearm, the criminals will take us more seriously." When posed with the suggestion of carrying a fake gun, McNiel thought about the idea and pulled an unloaded dart gun from his file cabinet. He looked it over, cocked it and pulled the trigger. "This would look pretty real at night," McNiel said, further considering the fake gun. "But if you're in a situation where you're being faced with great bodily harm, would you rather the officer have a real gun or a fake gun to stop that person?" GUNS MORE THAN APPEARANCE Lt. Frank Dale, a 15-year veteran of the Loyola University Chicago Department of Public Safety, doesn't believe the specific purpose of arming is to deter crime. "It is not going to deter anything," Dale said. "I look at it as another tool to have in their system to utilize as necessary." Like Marquette, Loyola is a Jesuit institution located in a neighborhood with a relatively high crime rate. Yet despite the Loyola department's insistence that it arm its 26 officers, the university hasn't budged on the issue, Dale said. "Our recommendation is to arm," Dale said. "We are probably going through the same pangs that Marquette is going through. I sympathize with Marquette. I would go their route." But not everyone with experience in campus security agrees. Brendan Dooley, a 2000 Marquette alumnus and former public safety officer with the Milwaukee School of Engineering and Grossmont College in El Cajon, Calif., said arming DPS would create an undue liability for Marquette. "Having a gun can escalate a situation that doesn't need to escalate," Dooley said. "That's where I see guns as the biggest liability." Dooley -- who never carried a gun while on patrol -- said he understands why an officer would want to do so. However, he said any situation that might involve the use of a firearm is easily recognizable, and that the officer should immediately contact the Milwaukee Police Department without getting involved. "There should be nothing that public safety officers encounter that with proper presence can't be diffused with pepper spray or a baton," Dooley said. DETERRENCE IS HARD TO MEASURE Ever since the topic of arming arose, DPS and University President the Rev. Robert A. Wild have stressed that it would lead to deterrence. "Deterrence of crime is clearly something that we look for," Wild said in his open forum Tuesday in the AMU. "It is hard to measure, but it is something that we look for." Rickard stressed that deterrence can't be measured. He pointed out that LIMOs have made over 4 million transports since the 1980s, but there is no way to know how many crimes the LIMO program actually prevented. In addition, there are many factors that go into crime deterrence, and often the exact causes are impossible to pin down. "Really, if you think about it, the only way to know about a deterrent is to contact the criminals," McNiel said. Opponents of arming have attacked DPS because of its lack of statistics regarding crime reduction that other colleges have experienced since arming their campus security departments. The opponents argue that the proposal lacks substance because it cannot be backed up by cold, hard facts. However, finding those statistics can be a chore. Most college
[CTRL] Terrorists freed
-Caveat Lector- http://my.abcnews.go.com/PRINTERFRIENDLY?PAGE=http://abcsource.starwave.com/wire/US/ap20010403_817.html Charges dismissed against students who played with paper gun NEWARK, N.J. (AP) A judge dismissed charges Tuesday against two 8-year-old boys who had been accused of making terroristic threats for pointing paper guns at other students. Judge Peter V. Ryan agreed with prosecutors' recommendation to drop the charges against Hamadi Alston and Jaquill Shelton, of Irvington. Police said Hamadi stood up at his desk at the Augusta Street School on March 15, pointed a piece of paper folded to look like a gun at his classmates and said "I'm going to kill you all." Hamadi said he was imitating what Jaquill had done earlier that day. Under the school district's zero-tolerance policy on violence, school officials notified police, who questioned the boys for nearly five hours before filing charges. Hamadi's father called the charges an inappropriate reaction to recent school violence across the nation. "It was crazy," Ron Alston said. "You can't hurt nobody with a piece of paper." Irvington police and School Superintendent Ernest Smith did not return calls seeking comment. Representatives of several black organizations attended Tuesday's juvenile hearing to support the boys and said authorities need to be more prudent, despite school shootings elsewhere. "Now it seems that even the slightest thing may trigger someone to put the legal process into motion," said Lawrence Hamm, president of People's Organization for Progress. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Letter from Planet of the Apes
Lots of monkey heads to transplant in big cities, but blue bloods do not mix with monkies from Planet of Apes...letter from head honcho who used bible calendar code.for you see the call to Macedonia was a call for the street people to destroy America - burning Washington, then you had other disasters Watts... Now from where I came, nice people did not mix with monkiesbut since you June and Joshua seem to have already had your transplants - would seem your blood types mix. Letter from Head Monkey - who did not use real name - letter coded - anyone with half brain can see that, for this man used the bible calendar - he lived by it and he died by it - all timed.Come to Macedonia was the call for rioting.. Note: Jack Ruby knew what was what; in his little jail cell after he silenced Owald he cried over and over and over again - Shadrach, Meschenk and Abenego.. From where I come - no we will never have such people reign over us.as our leader said Keep Your Powder Dry and this time when the Come to Macedonia Call is given - many a hand will reach for a rifle and be prepared to defend themselves. So as Clinton said - Let them get the first shot? Saba This Event In Black History 8: "Letter From A Birmingham Jail " by Martin Luther King written: April 16 1963 I got this from a mailing by Art "Spook sitting at the proverbial door" McGee (Note from the author: This response to a published statement by eight fellow clergymen from Alabama (Bishop C. C. J. Carpenter, Bishop Joseph A. Durick, Rabbi Hilton L. Grafman, Bishop Paul Hardin, Bishop Holan B. Harmon, the Reverend George M. Murray. the Reverend Edward V. Ramage and the Reverend Earl Stallings) was composed under somewhat constricting circumstance. Begun on the margins of the newspaper in which the statement appeared while I was in jail, the letter was continued on scraps of writing paper supplied by a friendly Negro trusty, and concluded on a pad my attorneys were eventually permitted to. leave me. Although the text remains in substance unaltered, I have indulged in the author's prerogative of polishing it for publication.) MY DEAR FELLOW CLERGYMEN: While confined here in the Birmingham city jail, I came across your recent statement calling my present activities "unwise and untimely." Seldom do I pause to answer criticism of my work and ideas. If I sought to answer all the criticisms that cross my desk, my secretaries would have little time for anything other than such correspondence in the course of the day, and I would have no time for constructive work. But since I feel that you are men of genuine good will and that your criticisms are sincerely set forth, I want to try to answer your statements in what I hope will be patient and reasonable terms. I think I should indicate why I am here In Birmingham, since you have been influenced by the view which argues against "outsiders coming in." I have the honor of serving as president of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, an organization operating in every southern state, with headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia. We have some eighty-five affiliated organizations across the South, and one of them is the Alabama Christian Movement for Human Rights. Frequently we share staff, educational and financial resources with our affiliates. Several months ago the affiliate here in Birmingham asked us to be on call to engage in a nonviolent direct-action program if such were deemed necessary. We readily consented, and when the hour came we lived up to our promise. So I, along with several members of my staff, am here because I was invited here I am here because I have organizational ties here. But more basically, I am in Birmingham because injustice is here. Just as the prophets of the eighth century B.C. left their villages and carried their "thus saith the Lord" far beyond the boundaries of their home towns, and just as the Apostle Paul left his village of Tarsus and carried the gospel of Jesus Christ to the far corners of the Greco-Roman world, so am I. compelled to carry the gospel of freedom beyond my own home town. Like Paul, I must constantly respond to the Macedonian call for aid. Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states. I cannot sit idly by in Atlanta and not be concerned about what happens in Birmingham. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds. You deplore the demonstrations taking place In Brimingham. But your statement, I am sorry to say, fails to express a similar concern for the conditions that brought about the demonstrations. I am
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Media Lies Once Again to Declare Bush the Winner
-Caveat Lector- Tis just a HegelianTango with some cha-cha-chas tossed in for wiggle room. The object of the operation is the cessation of our republic, the continued oppression of natural sovereignties and attempted perpetual domination through elite deviance. The fact of the matter is that our electoral system is highly controlled. There are very few windows of honest operations, mostly in small rural areas. The elections industry is quite interesting and very corrupt. It is not a topic of discussion of the major media. Another fact is that Al Gore won the presidential election of 2000, both the electoral and popular vote. What you are getting the "privilege" of existing through is a psy-war op directed us hoi polloi. The overriding theme on the world stage has been the planned Hegelian play of the US as a caricature of capitalism and the USSR as caricature of socialism. The play is very exploitive of many different "subplots." There has been mucho dinero spent on understanding group dynamics. Much of the news is just plain false, directed toward hardening of the differing sides so that they can then be controlled by constructed events. The psychological effect of the 2000 elections is very similar to the JFK assassination in operation, play and affectations. MHO Om K A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Paul Harvey impersonation
my website NEWSGROUP < center> Click to subscribe to crimgov IF PICTURE DOES NOT OPEN , CLICK "UNWRAP LINES" AT BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE , THEN RETRY . http://www.zing.com/mypictures/inbox/view.html?id=4276245014url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zing.com%2Fpicture%2Fp9dca14b4f70ee8f4615a2286238a11f6%2Ffee25216.jpgcaption=Picture%20001 The rest of the( Owen )story. On the above URL, just under the "NViets break..etc" is a little blob from the NY Times which reports the death of a CIA officer,on the ground, in NE Laos, from hostile small arms fire. That was supposed to be me. Odom jr and Col Arnold pulled a switch and it was ( I believe) ROB OWEN'S older brother instead, which might explain why Shackley was always looking out for R.O., who was QUAYLES constituent. I don't know . I was in the dark too. On Hull. I dont expect anyone to take this seriously but neiter Bush nor Quayle knew what was going on till fairly late in the game , and then only by chance landing of Hull plane in middle of Bush grouse hunt in w.Texas. Bush was shook-up. Casey managed to fix it all up somehow. Regarding FTW(Ruppert/hopsicker july2000) I dont know anything about Dem. Laundry ops. but I know the original money for the 1980 Reagan/cocaine deal (which DID purchase the election) came out of profits of ODESSA (I mean the real Odessa) gold swindle of 1979. The SD originals with their WWII ID papers started re entering Bolivia in Oct 1979. One of them is pictured in the BOWERS book . That guy laid out the whole plan for me in July1979 and advised me to invest in gold cause they were finally able to sell their WWII hoard but they would drive the price way way up first. Kenneth B Thomas my website NEWSGROUP < center> Click to subscribe to crimgov IF PICTURE DOES NOT OPEN , CLICK "UNWRAP LINES" AT BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE , THEN RETRY .
Re: [CTRL] Eli Lilly's Sarafem -- same as Prozac?
-Caveat Lector- mmm, most of my ex's convinced me pms is a 24 day event followed by 4 days of "don't touch me i have cramps, damnit, men, pah..." or is that just me? - Original Message - From: "Tenorlove" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Eli Lilly's Sarafem -- same as Prozac? -Caveat Lector- Personally, I'd rather have a pill that GIVES me PMS the other 24 days of the cycle... Think of the fun I could have inflicting my moods on my family and friends! wicked grin Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] spy plane
U.S. spy plane was probing china air defenses Free Email Offers Delivered to Your Inbox! Win a $500 Shopping Spree SmarterLiving Travel Deals Win $5000 from Lifeminders! $25,000 from GeckoPrizes! Monday, 2 April 2001 19:41 (ET) U.S. spy plane was probing china air defenses By RICHARD SALE, UPI Terrorism Correspondent The U.S. spy plane which made an emergency landing in China was on a mission to eavesdrop on military radio traffic in the area and probe Chinese air defenses, administration officials told United Press International Monday. The Navy EP-3 surveillance aircraft collided Sunday with a Chinese fighter jet sent to intercept it. The U.S. plane made an emergency landing at a Chinese military base on Hainan Island in the South China Sea, and American officials have been denied access to the plane and its crew, provoking a tense diplomatic standoff between Beijing and Washington. In part the war of words that has ensued is attributable to the lack of any ground rules governing interaction between Chinese military forces and U.S. planes and ships trying to spy on them, according to a U.S. naval source. Guidelines were worked out during the Cold War between the U.S. and Russia, but never with China, the source said. The EP-3 Aries II aircraft has four propeller engines, and a low wing with a span of nearly 100 feet. It is capable of flying for more than 12 hours at a time with a 3,000 nautical mile range. The Navy owns only about a dozen of the aircraft. Each one carries a huge collection of highly classified sensitive radio receivers and high-gain dish antennae that can detect, record and analyze electronic emissions from deep within enemy territory, according to the Navy. According to one U.S. official, the Navy EP-3 II Aries flight Sunday was part of a National Security Agency program -- missions that the NSA operates in conjunction with all three branches of the U.S. armed forces. The Navy's component service is known as the Naval Security Group and its primary mission in the Far East is to monitor Chinese Naval activity. According to U.S. intelligence experts, this means gathering information on the type and number of ships and the patterns of operation, logistical organization and re-supply. In a war situation, the aircraft provides data for commanders to make targeting decisions and avoid enemy defenses. Its unique feature is the capability to offer near real-time intelligence by beaming its data directly to U.S. ships and planes while in flight. Intelligence experts say the plane would also collect data on how Chinese naval units operate in coordination with shore-based aircraft and ballistic missile submarines. A key goal, they say, is to watch for activation of special command links on which ships talk to commanders on special circuits or frequencies. But another part of the EP-3's mission has been to probe Chinese air defenses -- to get data facilities like radar and the fire control systems that drive surface-to-air missile and air interceptor systems, they said. These facilities reveal themselves when they start to track potential targets. "When the Chinese spot one of our planes, they light up, and we can watch them watching us. That's what it's about," said one U.S. government official. The EP-3s fly a fixed track, or route, in order to report on the signals and emissions coming from the many radars and guidance systems along the Chinese coast. Radars, whether linked to an anti-aircraft system or to ground station, produce distinctive electronic impulses or signatures. A quick glance from the crew of the EP-3 or an NSA analyst at a relay station can tell whether the radar is aboard a Chinese aircraft or coming from a surface-to-air missile battery, intelligence experts said. In wartime, data about the location of these facilities help U.S. weapons systems, ships and planes to penetrate air defenses and hit targets. In days of the Cold War, the United States would deliberately violate Soviet airspace in order to provoke the Soviets to turn on their air defense radars, enabling NSA experts to collect data, according to a U.S. Navy official. After the Soviets rammed a U.S. spy ship -- the USS Caron -- in the Black Sea in 1988, the official said a set of ground rules were drawn up between military officials of both nations. "We got together and said, 'look, this is an dangerous game. Aren't there some rules we can establish that will keep the lives of crews and officers from being in danger?'" the official told UPI. The agreement even covered interaction in the seas and airspace around North Korea. One intelligence official told UPI that both the Russians and the Chinese intercept reconnaissance planes in international airspace on nearly every flight to demonstrate they know the aircraft is there. But there is no agreement in place with the Chinese military, and China's interception of EP-3 flights has steadily become more aggressive, according to U.S. military
[CTRL] Fwd: Madelline Albright has stolen jewells - nothing new
So Madelline Albright has not turned in her loot from Arafat?Well so much for this "good Ctholic".like Japanese Catholic Sharpshooter and if that guy is Catholic I am a Zen Buddist? West Point may not have had a temple suitable for this Kamakazi killer who did not self destruct after murdering a litle 8th Grader and his dog at Ruby Ridge and then took careful aim and murdered mother too? Ah what breed of Catholic is this Albright and Japanese Sharpshooter? Anyway Madeline did find out lo and behold she was after all Jewishbut never returned the stolen art and jewellry stolen from those left for Hitler to excomunicate to the Zionist State of Israel? Tell me where is Israel getting billions and billions in diamonds that they do not mine? Saba Better get that stuff Madeline and send her back to Balkans for trial where war criminal charges were also ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\©http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! * * * * * * * IF YOU DON'T GET MER, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT! To receive MER regularly email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] THE PATHETIC ARAFAT - Giver and Beggar MID-EAST REALITIES © - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 4/08: This guy Arafat, and those who advise him, are truly getting ore pathetic all the time. We now learn that while his people suffer even worse than before as a result of what he and his cronies have done, and not done, Arafat has been busy giving expensive jewelry gifts to the former American President, First Lady, and Secretary of State (and no doubt there is a larger list!). And while the Israelis are busy shelling his people and assassasinating potential opposition Arafat is on the phone calling Sharon to wish the Jewish people a Happy Passover and beg Sharon to return to the dastardly "Oslo Peace Process" which has provided the Israelis the smokescreen that have wanted to create today's neo-Apartheid conditions in the first place! Meanwhile, partially thanks to Arafat's "leadership", corruption, and incompetence, the Palestinian people are forced to prepare for even worse times ahead, as the third article below details. It is Arafat who had lead everyone into this unbelievable situation having squandered so much time, money, and support for so long; having been used and co-opted and corrupted for so long. And it is surely long overdue that Arafat, Sha'ath, Abu Mazen, Erakat and Abed-Rabbo and that whole discredited cabal of Palestinian "leaders" and "negotiators" and "VIPs" resign in disgrace; and if they refuse they should be removed and indicted for gross corruption and malfeasance as has happened in recent history to other despicable regimes in other parts of the world. ARAFAT GAVE CLINTONS, ALBRIGHT, THOUSANDS IN DIAMOND JEWELRY Clintons left the gifts behind in White House By Shlomo Shamir [Ha'aretz - 6 April]: Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat gave diamond jewelry worth thousands of dollars to then-president Bill Clinton and his wife, Hillary, and to then-secretary of state Madeleine Albright during their terms in office,the New York Observer reported yesterday. According to the report, the Clintons left the gifts behind when they left the White House. The newspaper did not say what happened to the gifts Albright got. The Clinton gifts included braceletes, necklaces and earrings studded with diamonds, said the newspaper, and were worth some $12,000. The gifts to Albright were worth $17,400 the newspaper said. Arafat's gifts to the Clintons went to the U.S. National Archive, along with other gifts the First Couple received from world leaders. A State Department spokesman said he did not know what happened to the Albright gifts. According to the newspaper, the Clinton's accounting of their official gifts did not specify that they were from Arafat. ARAFAT CALLS SHARON IN GOODWILL GESTURE AMIND TENSION JERUSALEM (Reuters - 7 April) - Palestinian President Yasser Arafat delivered a goodwill message on Saturday to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon for the Jewish Passover holiday after a week of violence in the West Bank and Gaza. Israel Radio said Arafat spoke by telephone with Sharon to wish the Jewish people a happy holiday and also invited leftist Mertez party leader Yossi Sarid to meet him in the next few days. A Palestinian official said Arafat also spoke with Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres and expressed hope that stalled peace talks would resume. Sharon's office said his response to Arafat's gesture on the eve of Passover, which commemorates the Israelites' biblical
[CTRL] Fwd: Ed Dames China! [MC] Remote viewing for kids dark force
PRE Exclusive: ½ Price Omaha Steaks Top Sirloins- Only $22! Order today and well add 6 Burgers FREE when you checkout. 100% guaranteed to thrill; order today! A HREF=" http://click.topica.com/caaabM0bz8QXLbAgkRya/OmahaSteaks "http://click.topica.com/caaabM0bz8QXLbAgkRya/OmahaSteaks/A /PRE Heads up, "UFO" OpForce! Re "Ed Dames" and his Mind Kontrol for Kids! Responding to Battle Stations. Info Collection Requests Targeting: Llewellyn and FATE Mag; UFO Mag.; Antonio Huneeus; Michael Drosnin; Scott Jones; CUFOS; MUFON; The NINE; Ira Einhorn; Kathy Kasten @ UCLA; Don Vicki Ecker; Art Bell; Whitley Strieber; Linda Moulton Howe; Bruce Maccabee; and John Mack. We need updates on Ed Dames' revenue stream; also ops status of David Morehouse. Is Michael Lindemann still functioning? Revenue $tream $tatus update. Follow $$. Close loops! "Lace up the football, then punt it away." As per contingencies. (Exorcists at their stations? "Spirit Releasement Therapy" locked and loaded?) Move all data public and into policy control venues immediately. Expose funding. Open source only. Expect collateral confusion-seeding, (disease, urban panic). Dames attempting to torch disaffected youth "alien huggers" created in 1990s, as a perverted "Children's Crusade." See European history for parallels. Same "energy." Hitler Youth under SS tutelage inspired by same "philosophies" "mythologies." This is not a drill. :-( DF [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - + Subj:RE: [MC] "Mind Kontrol for Kids?" Battle Stations! Sound General Quarters! Date: 4/7/01 5:44:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wes Thomas) Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mc@Topica. Com), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ewar@Topica. Com) Update: Major "Head Games" Dames AKA "Dr. Doom," who claims to speak fluent Cantonese/Mandarin from his Army intel training, also said on the show that he's planning to go to China to mind-dazzle and recruit children as remote viewers (spies). Which either means Dames has gone completely insane (he'd last there about 2 nanoseconds before being arrested and imprisoned as a spy) or he knows the Art Bell audience (if the typical zombie callers are any indication) will believe any fool thing he says. ~ - - - - + See attached, FYI and context. (forwarded...) - - - - + PRE Improve your personal productivity. And gain time to focus on your favorite topics. It's simple and free when you use the productivity-packed email subscription tools at My Topica. Sign up today at A HREF=" http://click.topica.com/caaabHJbz8QXLbAgkRyf/register "http://click.topica.com/caaabHJbz8QXLbAgkRyf/register/A /PRE __ Post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List info: www.topica.com/lists/mc. ==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?bz8QXL.bAgkRy Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Learn More. Surf Less. Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Topics You Choose. http://www.topica.com/partner/tag01 ==^ PRE X SAVE 50%-70% OFF INK JET CARTRIDGES LASER TONER!! X FREE SHIPPING, All Major Brands, Cartridges Starting at $4.95 Satisfaction Guaranteed or your Money Back without question! A HREF=" http://click.topica.com/caaabKjbz8QXLbAgkOBa/inkjet "http://click.topica.com/caaabKjbz8QXLbAgkOBa/inkjet/A /PRE The following was sent to me by a list member who gave me permission to post it but prefers to remain anonymous. I agree that Dames' so-called "remote viewing" (I prefer to call it "posthypnotic psychotomimetic") protocols, like any uncontrolled hypnosis induction procedures (especially when the subject is not given a command to come out of it), have unpredictable side effects ... such as insanity. "In my opinion Ed Dames is possessed. It is a low-grade possession but he has no mental defenses. The dark force he's talking about is real and it is absorbing his attention. Eventually he'll be able to see nothing else. He's on his way to the rubber room. "This is partly a result of channeling, a sloppy and hazardous behavior. I also think that his practice as an intelligence agent, of taking a script and making himself believe that it is real (a practice that went far beyond method acting) was damaging to him. It enabled him to utter absurd disinformation with sincerity, but it destroyed his ability to relate to reality." Re Pat's comment that the purpose of "Mindazzle" is "to upgrade intuition, awareness
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The U.N. Plan for Global Control
-Caveat Lector- Well I think there is something wrong when one's religion forbids sodomy and the UN aids in the teaching of same as method of first, birth control; and second, genocide - 1 of 3 black homosexuals have AIDS? Nice plan for murder, in the name of humanitarian efforts? UN Plan for Global Control - by what authority? UN Secretary met with Castro while we were entertaining the little red herring Elian and planned for emmigrants to the USA for jobs, only they must be black or non-white? No Europeans, who made this country unless you think picking cotton took a lot of genius? UN does what by what authority? This nation was born at the business end of a gun, and believe me if our government will not defend this country, the patriots will so do in the name of the USA, not some god damned UN God of their choice. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WSJ Republican Strategy
-Caveat Lector- Wall Street Journal Headline: "Republicans need to keep courting Jewish and black voters." VDARE: Make that counting! (Not COURTING!) By Steve Sailer The battle to spin the ethnic vote continues, with many Republican commentators arguing that George W. Bush's resounding failure among their favorite minority constituencies only means that Republicans should redouble their efforts to appeal to that group in the next election. One of the most far-fetched was "Wall Street Journal" editorial page columnist Seth Lipsky's piece "No Majority Without Minorities: It won't be easy, but Republicans need to keep courting Jewish and black voters." The only plausible Republican strategy for attracting significant numbers of Jews or blacks is to nominate a Jew or a black for President. And the bounce from that would be short-lived, just as regional pride enabled Jimmy Carter to carry white Southerners in 1976, but not in 1980. An article by Ralph Z. Hallow in The Washington Times quoted a black Republican suggesting a more hard-headed tactic for the GOP: payoffs to black leaders. Former chairman of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, William B. Allen advises targeting black politicians and ministers. "The time has come to recognize that the Republican Party has to co-opt -- I may even say to buy -- the black vote. You make it too valuable for them to say no to you. Everybody has something to offer, whether positions, whether money, you name it." While certainly a bracing alternative to Lipsky's woozy wishing, Allen's plan probably wouldn't work. Although the Democrats have been paying "walking-around" money to black ministers for decades, it is considered scandalous when the GOP tries to match the Democrats. Recall how political consultant Ed Rollins sank his career by boasting that he'd handed out walking-around money to New Jersey ministers to get Christine Todd Whitman elected. Further, Democrats can offer above-board policy payoffs to black leaders that Republicans just can't match, at least not without eliminating what little difference is left between the parties. Consider why the Bush Brothers didn't win easily in Florida: because Governor Jeb infuriated the black elite with his One Florida plan. When Ward Connerly, the black hero of California's anti-quota Proposition 209 campaign, came to Florida, Jeb thunk and thunk and finally came up with what he reckoned was the perfect plan to squelch Connerly. Jeb would eliminate overt racial preferences in state university admissions, but actually increase the number of black students by guaranteeing college admission to any kid finishing in the top 20% of his high school class. Since lots of poor blacks attend schools where even the valedictorian is hard pressed to score above the national average on the SAT, this would be a boon to black college admissions. Of course, what Jeb forgot was that black elites are not comprised of average blacks. Black leaders mostly send their kids to integrated schools, where their scions find it hard to rank in the top fifth. However, black leaders' kids tend to outscore the poor black kids on the SAT, so One Florida would tend to make affluent black kids worse off to the benefit of their poorer brethren. Enraged, black leaders ran a tremendous get out the vote campaign, driving the black share of the vote up from 10% in Florida in 1996 to 15% in 2000. And Florida's African Americans votes 93% to 7% against Jeb's brother Dubya. Now, Mr. Lipsky might suggest that all Jeb had to do was explain to poor black Floridians why his plan was better for them than their leaders' quota plan. Maybe but let's be frank about the difficulties of getting a complex logical argument across to poor blacks. Consider this: The only reason Dubya is carrying Florida is because a sizable fraction of the black electorate there botched up their ballots. Although I implied in VDARE that the 26,000 ballots disqualified in Republican Duval County showed that Republicans could be as clueless as Democrats, I was wrong. In Duval's black precincts, 20% of the voters had their ballots disqualified for, well, for stupidity. The get-out-the-vote workers had told inexperienced black voters "to vote on every page." Since the ten Presidential candidates were spread across two pages, many voted for two men for President. [See the amusing New York Times account]. Similarly, The Palm Beach Post reported that the butterfly ballot baffled 16% of the voters in Palm Beach's black districts. In contrast to Allen's interesting but probably impractical idea, Donald J. Devine, a veteran Republican campaign staffer suggested in The Washington Times article that the GOP not waste party resources on blacks other than carefully selected intellectuals. "Black intellectuals, on our side at least, have made the black intellectuals on the other side listen to our arguments on school vouchers and other issues." Recall the old joke: Q. What do you call
[CTRL] No Diversity of Ideas on Campus Today (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- No Diversity of Ideas on Campus Today Having observed both the Democratic and Republican conventions of 2000, it was quite evident that each party attempted to portray itself as the true champion of genuine diversity. In true form, both political parties made a concerted effort to appeal to African Americans, Hispanics, Asians, gays and lesbians in order to win their support for this year's presidential election. Diversity is the 'politically correct' idiom for discrimination. In other words, it is liberal newspeak for the same old agenda of affirmative action, quotas, and preferences. Now I don't want to come off as callous or apathetic towards real victims of racism or discrimination. I acknowledge that both exist. However, I would like to apply the dogma of diversity to academia. In an article in the August 13th issue of the Washington Times Weekly entitled "No diversity of ideas on campus today," Jeffrey Hart stumbles on a fascinating contradiction in liberal thought concerning cultural diversity and ideas. Hart analyzes an investigation conducted by the independent student newspaper, The Dartmouth Review, concerning the political affiliation of professors in six academic departments at Dartmouth College: economics, English, government, history, philosophy, and religion. The results of the survey were not surprising to me! Any serious scholar of American education is aware of the fact that most educators are affiliated with the Democratic Party. This fact alone opens up a whole can of worms relating to worldview and the concept that "ideas have consequences" which this commentary has not the time to address. The Dartmouth Review found that 79 percent of the faculty were Democrats, 18 percent Independents, and 3 percent Republicans. Democrats outnumbered Republicans 25 to 1. Hart also points out that we hear a great deal about diversity these days from spokesmen for the universities nationwide. I say it's time they simply practice what they preach. One way academia could show its good faith and true commitment to genuine diversity is to have quotas for professors on the basis of ideas, religion, and political affiliation. Universities and colleges should scrap tenure and provide real equal opportunities for people with different viewpoints than their own in order to bring actual diversity and balance to academia. However, there is not a chance this will happen anytime soon. Academia is entrenched! Liberals are alleged to champion respect for the rights and privileges of others, the promotion of understanding and appreciation of human differences, and the guardians of constructive expression of ideas. Where's their respect, understanding, and appreciation for the Judeo/Christian tradition and worldview on the campuses of America today? I tell you, it's no where to be found! That's because the only legitimate form of discrimination allowed in America today is towards Christians. The Left's call for diversity is merely talk. In other words, it's nothing more than symbolism over substance! http://www.gostrategic.org/dtt/DTTP09A2000.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] LewRockwell.com -- China is right.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: "Nurev Ind." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: LewRockwell.com -- China is right. If J2 is now quoting libertarian sourcesI might actually start to take him seriously!!! flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Capitalism at work: So you think businessmen should control your energy eh?
-Caveat Lector- PGE Bankruptcy Bombshell Deepens California Energy Crisis The only thing dumber then thinking that the purpose of corporations is to further the public good is to think that politicians can "manage" energy production. flw A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FC: Sorry, you can't register Jesus Christ or Santa under .name (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- * From: "Russ Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: sorry Pop ... and Jesus Christ and Santa Claus Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:31:40 -0400 The domain name "pop.name" will not be allowed to be registered by any user. jesus.christ.name santa.claus.name will also not be permitted http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/name/registry-agmt-appx-05mar01.htm http://www.icann.org/tlds/ has the updates for the new tld's. Russ Smith http://TheNic.com - POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if it remains intact. To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ - A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Well duhhhhhh!!!!- OR - Welcome to the New World Order.
-Caveat Lector- Published on Sunday, March 25, 2001 in the Independent (UK) The Crazy Logic of the Continental Food Swap By Caroline Lucas From culling times, vaccination, army involvement, and the effects on election dates to the far more fundamental question of the malign role of meat imports and exports in this tragic fiasco. Ben Gill, president of the National Farmers' Union (NFU), pointed the finger at globalisation, when he asked: "Is it a coincidence that we had classical swine fever in East Anglia last year, of an Asian origin, and foot and mouth now, also of an Asian origin? It raises questions about freer world trade." In my report Stopping the Great Food Swap -- Relocalising Europe's Food Supply, published today, I ask why is it that foot and mouth, a disease that doesn't harm humans and from which most animals recover in a matter of weeks, has virtually shut down the countryside, led to the mass slaughter of healthy animals, and crippled our tourist industry. The answer is: to ensure that we can continue to export meat in a world where politicians treat globalisation like a god. Yet, according to the NFU, the UK earns 630m per year from meat and dairy exports. Compare this with the estimate of the cost of the foot and mouth epidemic of 9bn. This means that it will take more than 14 years of exports to match the cost of the damage done by the present "cull to eradicate" approach to foot and mouth. The disaster now spreading across Britain and appearing on the Continent must result in a radical rethink of the need for an ever more international food trade. For it is this that exacerbates climate change, forces down food and animal welfare standards and contributes to disasters such as as foot and mouth and BSE. Over the past 30 years, the rise in the trade in meat, live animals and other agricultural products in and out of Europe has been dramatic, yet this often involves, simultaneously, a reverse trade in precisely the same products. The sheer absurdity of this "food swap" is shown by the fact that Britain imported 61,400 tonnes of poultry meat from the Netherlands in the same year that it exported 33,100 tonnes of poultry meat to the Netherlands. We also imported 240,000 tonnes of pork and 125,000 tonnes of lamb, while at the same time exporting 195,000 tonnes and 102,000 tonnes of pork and lamb respectively. Dramatically curbing world food trade and relocalising production must be central to the debate about transforming the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP. The chairman of the European Parliament's influential Committee on Agriculture and Rural Development, the Green MEP Friedrich Wilhelm Graefe zu Baringdorf, has welcomed this approach. He has asserted that this is a key issue for debate not just in Brussels, but also in the World Trade Organisation and in environment and agricultural ministries everywhere. Germany's new Green agricultural minister, Renate Kunast, has also demanded changes. It is time to consider how we replace globalisation with localisation. The CAP must be replaced by a localist rural and food policy. Its goal would be to keep production much closer to the point of consumption and to help protect and rebuild local economies around the world. As a member of the European Parliament's Trade Committee, I am committed to working to achieve this. It is the race for ever greater international trade and competitiveness that should go up in smoke, not our animals and the future for our farmers, tourism and the countryside. --Dr Caroline Lucas is Green MEP for South-east England. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ritual Murders Keyed to Bible
-Caveat Lector- Aleisha Saba wrote: -Caveat Lector- No Johannes, no the asshole of the year wrote this one .Joshua 2 was that you asshole? Off List Joshua was voted Asshole of the Year - and understand they give him a big plaque when the funds are raised. Saba Actually one might call this bible code Jewish Ritual Murder dating back to Jack the Ripper for it is said the Ripper was a Meyer Lansky in disgused on drugs and involved in old Illuminati of the day? So write me off that one Johannes - it was the hand of a brain dead asshole who wrote that one. Beware of Mad Cows spouting disinformation. Joshua2 with my shiny new plaque. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Ritual Murders Keyed to Bible
In a message dated 4/8/01 2:14:56 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Joshua2 with my shiny new plaque. Ahhh, the much-coveted Golden Sphincter!! I put mine on the mantle next to my bong! Bill.
[CTRL] Waco cover-up: The FLIR Project (fwd)
-Caveat Lector-
Waco cover-up: "The FLIR Project"
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=528
Original Message
Subject: McNulty on Sunday Show
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 11:09:23 -0500
From: "Oceana Investigations" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Ken Vardon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike McNulty, nationally known for his indefatigable research and reporting
of the Waco cover-up, has done it again! This time he has exposed the
cover-up of the cover-up.
Followers of the story will be remember that Janet Reno hired John Danforth
as an independent "investigator" last year in order to "clear up the
matter." Danforth cleared it up for the news media by finally concluding
last fall that " . . . we are 100% certain that the FBI did not fire a shot
that day (April 19, 1993)."
The dispute had begun brewing a couple of years before when Mike McNulty et
al. produced a documentary video which included the FBI's own FLIR (Forward
Looking Infrared) tapes shot from an airplane at 4,000 feet during the
massacre. FLIR reflects heat, and the hotter it is the whiter it appears on
the film. With the hundreds of white spots appearing from three sides of the
building, the researchers believed they had the video evidence of a planned
government execution of the Davidians.
The government based its "final conclusion" that this was not so largely on
the point that the the white blips on the screen were of "too long a
duration" to be gunfire and decided that they were simply reflections of
sunlight.
McNultey's new video, "The FLIR Project", destroys this hoax and makes one
100% certain that the FBI and Delta Force ground troops DID fire hundreds of
rounds that day. With new and different technology, McNultey was able to
pull up magnified images of men in uniform moving and firing around the
Davidian church home. The men, women, and children were brutally murdered in
the doorways as they attempted to escape the raging inferno.
Mike McNulty will be our guest for the full hour this evening and will
welcome your call-in questions.
This 34-minute piece of irrefutable evidence is available through the
website below for $22, shipping and handling included.
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Film Resurrects Waco
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=443
Why Waco?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wacopg.htm
Justice Department investigation should target UT campus
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37cd145368df.htm
Bring The Waco Murders To Justice! CLASS ACTION SUIT
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/CAS.htm
American Spectator Online April 5, 2001
The Latest Waco Fireball
http://www.spectator.org
by James Bovard
The Waco ghost may be rising from the grave once more to place its ice-cold
hand again on the neck of the Washington establishment. A new film and a
new book by top Waco experts achieve the miraculous -- further shredding
government credibility on the FBI's April 19, 1993 attack on the Branch
Davidians.
Back in September 1999, Attorney General Janet Reno hand-picked
establishment eminence and former U.S. Senator John Danforth (R-MO) to put
the wooden stake in the heart of the Waco issue once and for all. Danforth,
operating supposedly as an independent counsel, did his pious best -- and
raced to release his report last summer just as rumor had it that he was a
top prospect to be Bush's vice presidential candidate. Danforth basically
exonerated the feds, saving his scorn for low-life Americans who dared
criticize the government tank assault and gassing of the women, children,
and men in the Davidians' home.
A key issue in Danforth's investigation was whether FBI agents fired on
Davidians during the final attack. Rhythmic patterns on Forward Looking
Infrared ("FLIR") tapes made from an FBI plane strongly suggested automatic
weapons fire came from positions near the FBI tanks. Danforth persuaded
federal Judge Walter Smith to conduct a re- enactment last year of the
final day's action. Danforth then proclaimed that the film from the
re-enactment proved beyond a doubt that federal agents did not shoot at
Davidians -- in large part because the muzzle flashes on the re-enactment
were much shorter than the shots from the April 19, 1993 tape.
A new film, entitled "The F.L.I.R. Project," produced by Mike McNulty (one
of the masterminds behind the 1998 Academy Award finalist documentary,
"Waco: Rules of Engagement") reveals fatal flaws in Danforth's re-
enactment. (The film is available at www.flirproject.com)
On April 19, 1993, FBI agents relied on a commercial, off- the-shelf ammo
-- the type that would be used by any hunter or shooter. For the March 19,
2000 Danforth-FBI
[CTRL] Radioactive Tumbleweeds
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/science/04/06/radioactive.tumbleweeds.ap/index.ht ml Latest nuclear menace: radioactive tumbleweeds RICHLAND, Washington (AP) -- The Cold War may be over, but Hanford nuclear reservation continues to battle Russian invaders: radioactive tumbleweeds. Russian thistle is a dead menace here on the windswept desert of south-central Washington. Each winter, the deep tap root on the plant decays, and the spiny brown skeleton above ground breaks off and rolls away. "Our dream is that we have this place tumbleweed-free," says Ray Johnson, a biological control manager for radiation protection at Fluor Hanford, the contractor managing the U.S. Department of Energy site. But that's about as likely as a Soviet reunion. While less than 1 percent of the tumbleweeds corralled and compacted at Hanford are radioactive, the cost of cleanup can run into millions of dollars. Hanford is the most contaminated nuclear site in the country, built in 1943 for the top-secret Manhattan Project. For 40 years, Hanford made plutonium for the nation's nuclear arsenal, including the atomic bomb that was dropped on Nagasaki, Japan. The last reactor was shut down in 1986. Russian thistle, a nonnative or invader species, is a particular problem at underground burial sites for radioactive waste, where their tap roots reach down as far as 20 feet (6 meters) and suck up such nasty elements as strontium and cesium. A stiff winter wind can push the tumbleweed as far away as four miles, and then "we've lost control of our contamination," Johnson says. But most get hung up within a few hundred yards, usually on sagebrush, fences or in stairwells at the buildings scattered across the site. Two years ago, uncontrolled contamination spread by fruit flies made Hanford a national laughingstock, spoofed by humor columnist Dave Barry and in the syndicated comic strip "Sylvia." The flies had been attracted to a soil fixative with saccharin in the base that was being sprayed on a contaminated site. They flew to a lunch room, and spread the taint to nearby trash bins, which wound up at the Richland municipal landfill. Johnson can chuckle about it now, recalling attempts to find the source of the contamination. As crews ran radiation detectors around the lunch room and passed over a fruit fly, "the contamination flew away," he recalls. The journeys of a few thousand fruit flies cost $2.5 million to clean up. Riding herd on Hanford's tumbleweeds, and its flying insects, is part of an annual $4 million integrated soil, vegetation and animal control (ISVAC) program, run by subcontractor DynCorp. for Fluor Hanford. Radiation control specialists survey the tumbleweeds on the 560-square-mile (1,450-square-kilometer) reservation, using Geiger-Mueller counters that click when radioactivity is present. If contaminated tumbleweeds are found, an ISVAC crew disposes of them. "The weeds are fairly low danger," says Todd Ponczoch, a radiation control technician, using a Geiger counter to scan tumbleweeds along a fenceline. None registered radioactive on a recent trip. A large, three-pound (1.3-kilogram) radioactive tumbleweed might measure out at 150 millirads, or about 1/100th of the allowable annual dose of radiation per person at Hanford. Radioactive tumbleweeds are pitchforked by specially trained and clothed workers into a regulated garbage truck, compacted and disposed of at an on-site low-level waste dump. A trail of paperwork is required as well. The sites must be satisfactorily cleaned up and covered with six inches of clean soil or gravel. Nonradioactive tumbleweeds are territory for the Teamsters. "It's an easy job. It gets us outside," says Joe Aldridge, a Teamster from Richland, as he pitchforks a plant into the garbage truck which can hold about 1,800 pounds (810 kilograms) of tumbleweeds. The uncontaminated tumbleweeds are dumped in an open pit. Up until five or six years ago, the "clean" tumbleweeds were burned and the ash buried. But the state Department of Health put a halt to that practice for fear that some radioactive tumbleweeds might find their way into the mix and disperse contamination into the air. Preventive measures are also part of the control program, and include backpack, roadside and aerial spraying with herbicide to kill the thistle. Sometimes a bio-barrier -- a costly engineered textile -- is laid down to block the formation of thistle roots. "What you've got to do is make sure your contaminated areas are tumbleweed-free," Johnson says. Clearly, this isn't Kansas, where at least two enterprising souls are raising Russian thistles, turning them into tumbleweeds and selling them for home decor. But in the vast, open and uncontaminated portions of the reservation, some areas are simply left to nature. Even Johnson can acknowledge their rightful place in the world. "If we didn't have them, the West wouldn't be the West," he says, "and we couldn't sing 'Tumblin' Tumbleweeds."'
[CTRL] Witness To Kabila Shooting In Prison
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/ Witness to Kabila shooting in prison By Alex Duval Smith, Africa Correspondent 09 April 2001The only known witness to the assassination of President Laurent-Désiré Kabila is being held in solitary confinement in a Kinshasa jail and is receiving food only every other day, according to diplomats and sources in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Emile Mota, the late president's economics adviser, was briefing Mr Kabila on 16 January when an assassin shot the DRC leader at point-blank range. A week later, a terrified Mr Mota gave The Independent an exclusive account of events. It is understood that Mr Mota, 44, a doctor in mining economics, was arrested on 14 March as part of a security sweep including several other men who were close to Mr Kabila. The country is now being led by his son, Joseph Kabila. According to sources in Zimbabwe which is an ally of Kinshasa in the war against rebels backed by Rwanda and Uganda Mr Mota is being held in Block 1, Cell 5 of the notorious Makala prison in the capital. Another source, which contacted The Independent, from the DRC said: "He is being held under the pretext that he is the only witness. During his only contact with the outside, he expressed that his case be known to The Independent. The DRC ambassador to Zimbabwe, Kikaya Bin Karubi, said Mr Mota was being held to facilitate investigations into Mr Kabila's murder.
[CTRL] US hawks push Bush to get tough on China
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! US hawks push Bush to get tough on China Michael Sheridan and Tony Allen-Mills Pitching in: Bush relaxes in Milwaukee but is under pressure to play hardball with China. Photograph: Larry Downing PRESIDENT George W Bush faced mounting pressure from American conservatives to get tough with China yesterday, as Beijing jolted hopes of an imminent breakthrough in talks over the return of a US navy spy plane and its 24 crew. The wife of a Chinese fighter pilot missing since a collision with the American plane last Sunday sent a bitter personal letter to Bush, and China's foreign policy supremo told the United States its expressions of "regret" were not enough. In the letter, Ruan Guoqin, wife of Lieutenant Colonel Wang Wei, 33, the pilot the Americans accuse of causing last Sunday's collision with the EP-3E Aries spy plane, told Bush: "You must understand what it means when an old couple lose their only son, when a tender child loses his dear father and when a young wife loses her husband. What is incredible is you and your government's apathetic attitude to my husband's life. "You are too cowardly to voice an apology and have been trying to shirk your responsibility repeatedly and defame my husband groundlessly. Can this be the human rights . . . that you talk about every day?" In a letter to Colin Powell, the secretary of state, Qian Qichen, the Chinese vice-premier, wrote: "Regrettably, the US statement on this incident so far is unacceptable." He reiterated Chinese demands for a formal apology. Diplomats in Beijing said the moves seemed to undermine negotiations over the text of a possible compromise. Bush and Powell are pinning their hopes on an exchange of formal letters that would repeat American "regrets" and revive a 1988 agreement that provides for consultations on military activities. In Washington there were signs of growing impatience in Republican ranks at Bush's reluctance to threaten retaliation. Donald Rumsfeld, the hawkish Pentagon chief, was reported to be "worn out by the diplomats . . . He wants to stop the pattycakes". Several prominent conservatives were appalled when Condoleezza Rice, Bush's national security adviser, spoke of the need to preserve good relations with Beijing. American officials in Hainan prepared for a drawn-out saga yesterday, purchasing items such as contact lens solution and nail clippers for the 21 men and three women of the crew. But they were refused permission to take a mobile phone into a meeting with them. The Americans claim that private Chinese negotiating positions are more reasonable than their public rhetoric. But not even the behind-the-scenes involvement of Henry Kissinger, a veteran of talks with China, was having much impact on a snakepit of contending factions in Beijing. Meanwhile, US spy plane flights appear to be continuing. Chinese officials claim that 10 of their fighters "chased away" five intruders last week. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. rchives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF!ttp://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF!ttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A o subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] China raises new obstacle to spy plane crew deal
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! China raises new obstacle to spy plane crew deal By David Wastell, Washington, and Damien McElroy, in Haikou, Hainan Island Bush looks China in the eye Never judge a president by appearances CHINA last night threw up a fresh obstacle to a deal aimed at freeing the 24 American aircrew held on Hainan Island, by reissuing a demand for an apology and making clear that it expected America to cut surveillance flights over the South China Sea. George W Bush: accused by hard-line Republicans of "weakness" in his dealings with the Chinese As US diplomats waited for a promised third meeting with the crew, detained near the military airfield where their spyplane crash-landed last weekend after colliding with a Chinese fighter, the country's top foreign policy official, Vice-Premier Qian Qichen, sent a letter to Washington declaring that an apology from President George W. Bush remained of the "utmost importance" to China. At the same time, Chinese officials told American diplomats that they want electronic reconnaissance flights close to their coastal waters, which were stepped up to four or five flights a week from last summer, to be curtailed. China warned last May that the flights were coming "too close to the coast, and might cause trouble", according to a Chinese officer quoted in the Washington Post. Neither option would be acceptable to Mr Bush, who has strong public backing for the firm line that he has taken in his first foreign policy challenge since entering the White House less than three months ago. Some Republicans are privately expressing unease at the softly-softly approach of the past few days, and an editorial entitled "A National Humiliation", planned for a forthcoming edition of the Weekly Standard - a touchstone for many conservatives, describes the crew as held "hostage" and accuses Mr Bush of "weakness" in his dealings with the Chinese. American officials warned that they expected more "ups and downs" before the dispute was resolved, but remained optimistic that a solution was within reach. However, the new Chinese move appeared to dash hopes that an exchange of drafts of a proposed joint letter between America and China, being studied by President Bush and the Chinese President, Jiang Zemin, would end the stand-off this weekend. The letter, to be signed by Adml Joseph Prueher, America's ambassador to Beijing, and a senior Chinese official, would contain face-saving expressions of regret at the collision, in which a Chinese fighter pilot died, but avoid any admission of blame. It would also refer detailed examination of the accident and issues arising from it - including future surveillance flights - to a joint military and maritime commission set up by the two countries three years ago. Henry Kissinger, a former secretary of state, has privately warned the Chinese leadership that it must release the crew by today or face a damaging and enduring reaction from the American public, according to diplomatic sources. A poll for the Washington Post found opinion hardening, with 74 per cent saying that the Bush administration should restrict trade with China to force the return of the plane and its crew. Last night's letter from the Chinese vice-premier to General Colin Powell, America's Secretary of State, said: "Up to now, the American attitude is still unacceptable to the Chinese side, and the Chinese people are extremely dissatisfied with this." Communist officials also delivered a letter to the US embassy in Beijing from Ruan Guoqing, the wife of the missing Chinese fighter pilot, Wang Wei. Apparently written as she shed tears in her hospital bed, the letter called on President Bush to take responsibility for the incident. It said: "You are too cowardly to voice an apology and have been trying to shirk your responsibility repeatedly and defame my husband groundlessly." China maintains that the EP-3, which carried the latest American eaves-dropping equipment, "suddenly swerved" during a routine flight along its coast last Sunday, knocking the Chinese fighter out of the sky. Washington contests this, arguing that the Chinese pilot came too close to the American plane. In the Hainan capital, Haikou, where the crew is being held in a People's Liberation Army guesthouse, American diplomats spent most of the day in a hotel waiting for a telephone call from Chinese officials with a time and a place for a third meeting with the aircrew. In the wait for a breakthrough on the release of the crew, the Lockheed EP-3 surveillance aircraft spent a seventh day at a closed military airbase in the sweltering heat of the garrison island in the South China Sea, where it has been all but gutted by Chinese security experts. Carefully controlled attempts to raise public anger against America continued yesterday, amid stalling by Beijing as it attempts to wring concessions on curtailing future
[CTRL] How we spy on our friends
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! How we spy on our friends OUR PART IN THE SPY WARS By BRENDAN NICHOLSON Sunday 8 April 2001 Uncovered: why the US used Melbourne to spy on China Tensions ease in US, China stand-off Dutiful pilot or just one big show-off? Gallery: Spy plane photos The Cold War drama played out between a Chinese jet fighter and a US spy plane off Hainan island has focused attention on a global intelligence jigsaw in which Australia plays a clandestine but pivotal part. Australia's main role involves massive satellite surveillance of its Asian neighbors' civil and military communications that extends over a third of the planet. But it includes regular flights around Indonesia and as far afield as India and Pakistan by RAAF P-3 Orion patrol planes carrying equipment similar to that aboard the US plane at the centre of the row. Many Americans were startled to discover their aircraft were carrying out potentially dangerous spying missions off the Chinese coast. But Australians would be equally surprised at the extent of their country's surveillance. Since 1947, Australia has been part of a highly sensitive intelligence-gathering alliance with the US, Britain, Canada and New Zealand approved by the Chifley government. It was top secret for 40 years until revealed by strategic analysts Des Ball and Jeffrey T. Richelson in their book The Ties That Bind. The agreement divides the planet into spheres of intelligence-gathering responsibility, with Australia's Defence Signals Directorate covering the eastern Indian Ocean, parts of South-East Asia and the western Pacific. But technology has given it a much wider range. Last year Indonesia claimed RAAF aircraft were carrying out "black" (secret) flights over its territory. Australia denied the claims, but Indonesia repeated them in an official protest and threatened to shoot down the aircraft. The magazine Flight International said intelligence-gathering flights were carried out by two RAAF EP-3 Orion maritime-surveillance planes which were converted to operate as intelligence platforms under a classified project called Peacemate. These aircraft were joined during the Timor crisis by an even more sophisticated US EP-3E Aeries II. Indonesia issued a NOTAM (notice to airmen), warning pilots to watch out for RAAF Orions. In another incident, Indonesia claimed that two of its fighters intercepted a RAAF Boeing 707 air tanker and four Australian F/A-18 fighters in its airspace. An Indonesian fighter was alleged to have come to within eight metres of a Hornet. Flight International believed the Indonesian jets were armed and the Australian aircraft were not. The Australian aircraft were enroute to Singapore and the Australian Defence Force said they were in international air space in a recognised air corridor. Australia is also believed to use the reconnaissance version of the F-111 bomber, the RF-111C, to overfly Indonesia. The plane carries a long-range imaging pod able to record a mass of signals and sounds over a great distance. The RAAF's aircraft regularly find themselves much further afield and are believed to have collected information about Indian and Pakistani missile and nuclear bomb tests. In 1997, India formally protested to Australia that an RAAF Orion flew low over the pride of its fleet, the new destroyer INS Delhi, south of India's Andaman Islands. The Orion photographed the ship and dropped sonar buoys near it. These would have collected enough information about noises emitted by the destroyer to paint a comprehensive picture of its power plant and propulsion system. This "signature" would be stored to enable Australia and its allies to later identify the ship by its noise alone. The US aircraft involved in last week's incident is believed to have been trying to find or listen to either a new Chinese destroyer or one of two new Chinese submarines the Americans are worried about. One is a variant of the Russian Kilo Class sub and the other a variant of the Victor III, designed to launch cruise missiles while submerged. That would make it ideal for attacking US aircraft carriers. Professor Ball told The Sunday Age the RAAF Orions constantly patrolled a massive area of the Pacific between Australia and Butterworth in Malaysia. They would also head out across the South China Sea, around New Guinea and back over the Coral Sea. Along the way they would intercept VHF and microwave signals from as far as 200 kilometres away. "Our coverage is both what we're interested in, Indonesia basically, and broader coverage on behalf of the UK/USA community, which means from Burma across to the Coral Sea," Professor Ball said. US liaison officers were stationed in the intercept facilities and processing facilities and at headquarters in Australia and the US. "It's key stuff. You can't do anything unless you know what the electronic environment you're going to be operating
[CTRL] US denies arms sale an issue in crisis
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! US denies arms sale an issue in crisis AFP AND CNA WASHINGTON The White House said on Friday that US arms and equipment sales to Taiwan were not a part of negotiations aimed at resolving a standoff with Beijing over a US spy plane and crew stranded in China. Asked whether the sales, a major irritant in relations between Washington and Beijing, were being discussed by officials from both sides seeking to end the dispute, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer replied: "no they are not." The spy plane row has blown up as US President George W. Bush mulls a decision on whether to provide Taiwan with naval destroyers equipped with the AEGIS radar system and other weaponry. US officials have insisted that the sole factor in Washington's decision on what arms to provide Taipei will be based on Taiwan's defense needs, as required under the 1979 Taiwan Relations Act. Meanwhile, Kurt Campbell, a former US defense official in charge of Asia Pacific affairs, said at a recent seminar that he believes the new US administration will make a "robust" decision to sell arms to Taiwan in accordance with the Taiwan Relations Act. He added that because Asian countries do not want to see the US and China in conflict, the Bush administration should continue to engage Beijing. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] US Presses China for Free Access to Crew
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! US Presses China for Free Access to Crew Photos Reuters Photo Audio/Video Washington Diplomats Move Forward in Spy Plane Negotiations - (KHOU, Houston) Diplomats Wait For Another Meeting With Detained Crew - (Reuters) By Andrew Browne BEIJING (Reuters) - As 24 U.S. air crew began their second week in detention on Sunday, U.S. diplomats pressed China for unrestricted access while officials from both sides hammered out a joint letter to try to resolve the standoff. Efforts to end the crisis, which threatens China-U.S. relations if it drags on much longer, appeared to hinge on a choice of words in the letter that would allow a face-saving way out for both Chinese President Jiang Zemin (news - web sites) and President Bush (news - web sites). China wants a full apology for last Sunday's crash between a U.S. spy plane and Chinese fighter, but the United States insists it will not go further than an expression of regret for the lost pilot of the Chinese aircraft. In Haikou, U.S. diplomats were awaiting word on a fourth meeting with the crew after seeing them on Saturday and passing on e-mails from home, toiletries and the latest American sports scores to boost their morale. ``With regard to future access, we are still working hard for unfettered daily access to the crew and we asked to see them twice a day,'' Defense Attache Brigadier-General Neal Sealock told reporters. ``I trust that we will continue to have this access on a daily basis,'' he said. Speaking of Saturday's late-night meeting with the crew in Haikou's military-run Nanhang No 1 Guesthouse, Sealock said: ''It was very heartening to see them in very high spirits in very good health and good condition.'' Free access to the 21 men and three women crew may buy time for what could be a long and tortuous negotiation over the letter, which U.S. officials said would also set out a mechanism for an exchange of views on the incident. Patience is wearing thin among U.S. lawmakers and there is talk of trade retaliation and other sanctions. Palm Sunday Service In Beijing, U.S. Ambassador Joseph Prueher headed off to church on Palm Sunday. He told reporters he was awaiting word on another meeting from the Chinese Foreign Ministry (news - web sites) and ``we'll interrupt whatever we're doing for that next meeting.'' ``The air crew is well, they're doing fine, we're hoping to get them out of here before too long,'' Prueher said. Sealock, dressed in a dark polo shirt and tan trousers, delivered his remarks in a monotone voice and declined as usual to take any questions. Several U.S. diplomats in Haikou, including Mark Canning the public affairs officer for the U.S. Consulate in Guangzhou, would be flown out of Hainan on Sunday and replaced by fresh arrivals, diplomats said. U.S. political analysts said an apology was out of the question because it would imply that the U.S. pilot was guilty and it was wrong for the EP-3 plane to be patrolling the sea near Asia's major military power. But in a sign of hardening Congressional sentiment, Henry Hyde, the Republican head of the House International Relations Committee, described the U.S. crew as ``hostages.'' Photos Reuters Photo ``I would call them hostages. They are being held against their will, and five days is a rather long time, especially if you're the one being held in detention,'' ``I don't know why they're demanding we apologize. We ought to be demanding that they apologize for surveilling our planes and flying so closely to them,'' Hyde said in taped remarks for CNN. In a letter to Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) released by the Chinese news agency Xinhua on Saturday, Vice Premier Qian Qichen said Beijing was ``dissatisfied'' with Bush's expression of regret, adding an apology was of ``the utmost importance.'' ``Up to now the American attitude is still unacceptable to the Chinese side, and the Chinese people are extremely dissatisfied with this,'' the letter said. Biggest Ever Search China's main army newspaper, the People's Liberation Army Daily, on Sunday condemned what it called hostile U.S. spy flights off the Chinese coast. ``Frequent military surveillance activities along China's coast do not have a good and peaceful objective, rather they are clearly hostile in nature,'' an editorial said. The newspaper called for the United States to take responsibility, apologize to the Chinese government and people, stop similar surveillance flights and pay compensation. The People's Daily reported on a visit by Defense Minister Chi Haotian to the wife of missing fighter pilot Wang Wei. ``The U.S. government until now has still not apologized for the act of hegemony, increasingly arousing the anger of all the people of the world,'' the Communist Party flagship daily said in a front-page commentary. Chinese media coverage has increasingly focused on the distress of
[CTRL] Turner forced out of CNN by money men
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Turner forced out of CNN by money men Edward Helmore Sunday April 8, 2001 The Observer Ted Turner, the most voluble and compelling media titan of his time, now cuts a ghostly figure. In the last month, the billionaire founder of CNN, erstwhile husband of Jane Fonda, the largest private landowner in the US, environmental campaigner, United Nations benefactor, yachtsman, and irrepressible loud mouth, has been cut adrift from the US media empire he created by rivals with no tolerance for an outspoken individualist. Three years ago, Turner sold TBS, the cable TV network he founded, to Time Warner, which was itself purchased by America Online last year. He was expected to run his share of the empire for five years, but was suddenly replaced in a boardroom coup by a younger man, James Kellner, in February. 'I've already been fired,' he said last week. He has seen CNN upstaged by younger rivals such as Rupert Murdoch's Fox and gutted of staff and correspondents by the new management. And one of his first profitable channels, the professional wrestling station WCW, has been shut down and sold to its main competitor. The 62-year-old 'Mouth from the South' may still have plans - last week he bought a 20 per cent stake in NTV, the troubled independent Russian TV company, hoping that he can rescue it from looming state control - and he still officially holds the title of vice-chairman at AOL Time Warner, the world's largest media company, but his is a dwindling role. He is no longer listed as owner of the Atlanta Braves, and team's stadium - Turner Field - may now be renamed AOL Field. According to former employees in Atlanta, the biggest symbolic blow came when AOL closed the Turner Environmental Division, which produced environmental documentaries for CNN. 'Hell, I said they should put a banner ad on my tombstone. It should read "Here lies Ted Turner, sponsored by Coca-Cola". We could get $25,000 for that. It would help them make their numbers,' he told the Washington Post. 'I'm in spiritual and mental pain. When you've worked to build a company for 40 years and you know all the people there, and one day it's gone, well, that's a hard transition for anyone. It's like taking your pencil away and telling you you can't write anymore.' But Turner is hardly ready to disappear. In recent weeks, he's hit the university lecture circuit doing what he does best - leading with his mouth, stirrings things up and voicing his reliably contentious opinions on topics such as nuclear weapons, global warming and other environmental issues. For the first time in his career, Turner has nothing to run. The TV networks he nurtured through several brushes with bankruptcy are beset with ratings declines and he worries that the new management at CNN is concerned less with the news than with meeting bottomline targets. 'When we got into covering Kosovo and Baghdad, I would just tell them, "If we bust the budget, we bust the budget". We put journalism first,' he says. 'They say they're doing that, but when these companies get so big, they get under pressure to run it by the numbers.' Though Turner is AOL Time Warner's biggest shareholder, holding stock valued at $6 billion, he has clearly been outmanouvered by AOL chief Steve Case, says Reese Schonfeld, who helped found CNN. Turner says his main enthusiasms now are his philanthropic crusades. He contributes to hundreds of causes from the Bat Conservation Society to healthcare for girls in Mali and the campaign to eliminate the last vestiges of polio. Noticing that there were fewer bees polinating the flowers on his Florida plantation, he came up with $500,000 for a project to address the problem. He has acquired vast tracts of land - 1.7 million acres in all - in New Mexico, Montana, Nebraska, Kansas and South Dakota that he says will be preserved in its natural state in perpetuity. He has 25,000 head of bison and has attempted to reintroduce various endangered species, such as black-footed ferrets and desert bighorn sheep. Turner may have a bad case of the billionaire blues and have taken to quoting the soliloquy about mortality and humility from Richard II , but, says Robert Wussler, head of the NTV negotiations: 'Nobody should be in the process of discounting Ted Turner. I don't think he'll ever rest.' *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing
[CTRL] Defending America Newsletter 4 April 2001 Part 1
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Soldiers For The Truth Defending America Newsletter Situation Report - 4 April 2001 Growing Decent Leaders Excessive Perks TABLE OF CONTENTS SITREP From The President - 4 April 2001 Through Zmanâs Gun Sight - Green to Gold or Green to Broke? HACKâs Target For The Week - Jerk This Perk The Big Picture: Article 1 â U.S., Chinese Warplanes Collide Over S. China Sea Article 2 â Bush Offers Support in Macedonia Article 3 â Defense Secretary Outlines Military Overhaul Article 4 â Distrust For Anthrax Policy Article 5 â Is This The Military I Will Join? Article 6 â Navy League and Fun Rides serve a Purpose Article 7 â Small Arms Training Not Up to Par Article 8 â Air Force: We Need Reform, Not More Badges Voices of the Troops: Article 9 â The Sergeantâs Corner: Donât Bring a Knife to a Gunfight Article 10 â Your Move, Mr. Bush Article 11 â Jungle Tankers Article 12 â Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program (AVIP) G.I. Humor: Article 13 â Recruiting for The Army Of One? Medal of Honor: Article 14 â WOMACK, BRYANT E., Korea 1952. Admin / Log Net Editors Note - Article Submission - Contacts - Service Editors Donations - Subscribe - Unsubscribe - File Archives Text Only - Printer Friendly Version SITREP: SITUATION REPORT: 04 APRIL 2001 A. Main topics: 1) Growing Leaders 2) Macedonia 3) Anthrax 4) Awards/Recognition B. HOT BUTTONS: * WE NEED YOUR CONTINUED FINANCIAL SUPPORT IN 2001. Please send a few Dollars our way if you believe that our troops need an independent voice for the opinions of the "Little Man," too often drowned out by the brass and the many so-called experts. THANK YOU to all SFTT warriors who have made it possible for us to stay on the forefront of fighting for change and access to the truth. Questions of the Week: 1. Do you think that the recent military mishaps, such as the Kuwait bombing, the Greenville collision, the China Spy Plane incident, the USS Cole sabotage etc. are purely mishaps or an indication that our military is malfunctioning? 2. Could your unit perform its combat mission or is it ready on paper only? Feel free to send me hot topics directly, if you canât get through the admin/log net, or you donât get a response within 72 hours â [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Keep the mail coming! We wonât reveal your true identity unless you give us your approval. We know how vindictive the "system" can be. How you can help: Credit Card donation via our Secure Web Site at SFTT.org. !!! If you think we HIT a target, forward the newsletter to TV, radio and your local papers. YOU are the frontline recruiters and intel gatherers for SFTT. Check or Money order: Send to and make payable to: Soldiers For The Truth Foundation, PO Box 63840, Colorado Springs, CO 80962-3840. Important: Your donation is tax deductible! SFTT is a 501 (c) 3 non-profit educational foundation, IRS # 31-1592564. If you send us an E-MAIL address with your donation we can immediately mail you a RECEIPT. Multiple contributions: Please remind us when you submit your donation. We will send you a cumulative statement. Prepare for Action - "Crew Ready! - LOAD SABOT - DRIVER MOVE OUT!" R.W. Zimmermann President SFTT E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zman Through Zmanâs Gun Sight Green to Gold or Green to Broke? By R.W. (Zimm) Zimmermann President, Soldiers For The Truth SFTT Dateline USA - 4 April 2001 Note: Green to Gold is part of the Reserve Officer Training Program, that select enlisted personnel can apply for while on active duty. Once accepted, they are discharged until graduation. When it comes to supporting its prior enlisted troops, enrolled in the "Green to Gold" Reserve Officer Training (ROTC) Program, the US Army deserves a big "F" and I urge all concerned about "home growing" talented leadership, to examine how the program is funded and run. Ignoring the economic plight of the troops in the program, in favor of other priorities such as $10,000.00 rifles, tin cans on wheels and a $26 million beret contract, demonstrates that our political and military leaders still donât believe that good people are the best remedy to the persisting readiness and morale crisis. I have corresponded with many enlisted troops in the Green to Gold program and what Iâve heard convinces me that something should be done. If the Rangers could command the attention of political leaders to preserve their beret with a march on Washington, maybe the patriotic young troops, who want to make a difference as future officers, should do the same to make the big wigs pay attention. Dan Crumby is a Green to Gold scholarship recipient at the University of Texas, El Paso, one of 277 colleges and universities that offer ROTC. A former military police sergeant with 4 years and 11
[CTRL] Parental Alienation Syndrom
-Caveat Lector- Im researching an article on Parental Alienation Syndrom. Im looking for leads like these: http://www.join-hands.com/domestic_relations/pennsylvania_grieco2.html http://www.rgardner.com http://newtimesla.com/issues/1999-03-04/feature.html/page1.html Know any good ones? Im also very interested in personal accounts. As always, Im willing to preserve your anonymity if thats what you want. I always protect my sources. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] STOLEN FOOT-AND-MOUTH VIRUS 'RELEASED DELIBERATELY'
STOLEN FOOT-AND-MOUTH VIRUS 'RELEASED DELIBERATELY'18:30 Sunday 8 April 2001 The foot-and-mouth outbreak could have been started deliberately by someone who stole a test-tube of the virus from a laboratory.The Sunday Express says a container of foot-and-mouth virus went missing from a secret Government lab at Porton Down in Wiltshire two months before the crisis began.The disappearance was discovered during a routine audit of the sensitive unit, which also houses smallpox, TB, anthrax and Ebola. The newspaper says there are rumours the missing test-tube could have been taken by an animal rights activist.The paper quotes a 'senior military source close to Porton Down' as saying: "A phial appears to have gone missing from one of the labs following a routine audit last year."Ministry officials were informed immediately and an investigation was launched initially by Special Branch and then by MI5, who are interested in the activities of animal rights protesters."It says questions will be tabled in parliament about the Porton Down link this week. A Department of Health spokesman wouldn't comment but the paper said an agriculture ministry spokesman said the matter was being investigated.The paper also claims it has seen documents confirming some sheep carried the virus long before the outbreak was confirmed on February 20. According to a Welsh vet, it was in Wales as early as January, says the paper.Timber merchants say they were approached by the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food in early February to supply wood for pyres. Agriculture minister Nick Brown insisted this was part of a "regular contingency planning exercise".He told the paper: "There are a number of urban legends doing the rounds that the ministry knew about this disease before. That is not true."© Ananova_ Latest
[CTRL] Hitchens' Royalty
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.guardian.co.uk/monarchy/story/0,2763,407341,00.html The answer is as I have suggested innumerable time: Britlandia }}Begin End of the line For years we have gawked as the ancient dignity of the royal family has vanished in a flood of scandal and dysfunction. So is it finally time to abolish the monarchy? No, says Christopher Hitchens - but it is time we grew out of it Join the debate online Special report: the future of the monarchy Christopher Hitchens Wednesday December 6, 2000 The Guardian For my parents and my teachers, it was - and they meant it unironically - "something to look up to". I invite readers who are of my generation to remember that familiar, modest, slightly embarrassing mantra, if only as a measure of how old they are. Something up to which to look would be more grammatical, of course, but no less archaic. Nowadays, the royal family is at best something to look at, and at worst something to look away from, or look down upon. It unavoidably remains, however, something to contemplate. The gaze cannot be averted for long. The Windsor clan still compels attention even from the reluctant or the sated. It does so either by pervading the showbiz media, or by occupying the no man's land that separates us from the constitutional future. Whichever direction we may be taking, there is a monarchy-shaped blur that obscures the view. More worrying in a way, there seems to be a fear of what might be revealed if that blur was dispelled. Events, many of them biological, have done what republican propaganda could not and forced at least a surmise about what lies on the other side of the fog. It will come as sad news to some people, but within a few years t he Queen Mother will be no more, the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh will be on their last legs, and the mass-circulation papers will be forced to write in earnest about the really serious matters, such as whether or not "It's Queen Camilla!", or with which "supermodel" Prince William will compromise himself. And all of this tripe, at which the heart sinks in anticipation, will occur in a parallel universe reported less luridly on other pages. (Sample headlines: "Catholics outnumber Protestants in new Ulster census"; "Scotland says 'Aye' to self-government"; "Blur in Channel - EU isolated.") At around that time, if I'm spared, I will no doubt be hearing from Windsor partisans who demand to know if I'd really prefer President Bush, or what it is I have against our tourist trade. Who knows: I may even meet a ch eery old pearly king or queen who will spontaneously exclaim: "I wouldn't have her job, mate. Not for a million smackers!" (Oh do shut up. Nobody's going to offer you the job - you weren't born into the right family for a start - and if they did, a million "smackers" wouldn't be the half of it.) But deference has become an irrelevant curio, and tourists will probably manage to get here anyway, and the American presidential system will (with any luck at all) be coming under increasingly strenuous criticism precise ly for being too monarchical and ceremonial. We shall still be faced with the question of how to make a devolved and Europeanised parliamentary system out of the sow's ear of "the crown in parliament" and the ramshackle i nsular union for which it stood. Understand that there is no avoiding this; we can do many things but we cannot go on as we have. And there may be a variety of potential solutions, but King Charles III is not one of them, not even on an exceptionally goo d day. Walter Bagehot's famous distinction between the "dignified" and the "efficient" parts of our unwritten constitution is in reality a distinction without a difference. If efficiency can be assumed of the functioning parts, then dignity is at least probable in the decorative ones. But something that is by definition inefficient is fairly certain also to be undignified. And the House of Windsor has overdetermined this outcome by sacrificing w hat remained of its rather heavy dignity in a welter of family dysfunction. In addition to this, it almost imposes irrelevance. Recall the chancellorship of Norman Lamont; that amazing interlude in the history of our great currency. As the debate on the euro began to become real for the first tim e, he returned from a tense meeting with his fellow European finance ministers with the breathless intelligence that, whatever shape the future money was to take, he had ensured that the British version would still have t he sovereign's head inscribed upon it. Imagine the effort that was involved in this Treasury triumph. And those who believe that monarchy acts as a solvent upon local differences have only to look at the recent symbolic tussles in the six counties, where the first step - the necessary if not the sufficient condition - tow ards a redefined and non-sectarian police force was the removal of the word "royal" from its name. This country for some reason does
[CTRL] Fwd: [FUTURE-CITIES] Re: H SPACE: Scientists predict Moon base by 2007 (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 00:02:18 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: H SPACE: "Scientists predict Moon base by 2007" J Corbally wrote: Sad thing is, in 10 years time people will complain about "whacky" Scientists "predicting" a moon base back in good old '01. If we really want it, we can have tele- and automation operated lunar factories in a decade (by 2011). You could do it on your own if you're worth a few G$. In the meantime, what would be the pros and cons of a Lunar as opposed to a Martian base? Luna would be nearer, but wouldn't Martian gravity be better? Would we be in a situation of having to "justify" a Lunar base like needs to be done for ISS? GAR. There's no point in sending people to Mars. There's little point in sending people to the Moon either, but you at least can do it with current technology, and have decent supplies and rescue infrastructure. With Mars, you've got one terribly expensive one-short mission. For the same resources you could establis a permanent bridgehead on the moon. As to gravitation, 1/6 g plus vigorous training should contain osteoporosis and provide guidance for the cytoskeleton. Forget Mars. By the time you can go to Mars you wouldn't want to. If we were to design a city with surroundings according to a George Bush "Culture of Life" would it be the same as a Vatican "Culture of Life"? Can the Bush Administration even with the help of HUD or Vatican with the help of 1,000,000,000 Roman Catholics tell us what their Culture of Life would be like? Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[CTRL] Fw: CONGRESS ACTION: April 8, 2001
- Original Message - From: Kim Weissman To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: CONGRESS ACTION: April 8, 2001 CONGRESS ACTION: April 8, 2001 = RINOs: The economy is going downhill. Consumers are experiencing what Wall Street calls a "negative wealth effect", that is, they are feeling poorer by the day as they watch so much of their paper wealth, built up over the years of the bull market, evaporate almost overnight. So they are pulling back on spending. As a result, corporate income and profits are declining, and companies are responding by cutting back on their own spending, and by laying off employees. The ripples of the negative wealth effect spread. The question everyone is asking is whether spending by consumers, who makes up seventy percent of the economy, can revive the economy. But consumers cannot spend what they do not have. Thus the case for large, across the board tax cuts, to put more money into the hands of consumers. Our government now taxes at levels not seen since the end of the Second World War, and the combined taxes extracted by all levels of government take more than food, clothing, and housing, combined. So how do the grand poobahs in Congress propose to stimulate the economy? Senator Joe Lieberman, fresh from patting himself on the back for his role in telling the peasants to shut up by voting for John McCain's campaign finance reform, proposes to throw you a one-time crumb of $300. Now that will certainly make everyone feel wealthy again and begin spending again, won't it? But Lieberman is a democrat, and spending money to expand government is what democrats do. Then there are the republicans-who'd-rather-be-democrats in the Senate, the so-called "RINOs" (republicans in name only) like James Jeffords, Lincoln Chaffee, and Arlen Specter, who voted to reduce the amount of Bush's already anemic $1.6 trillion tax cut, and voted to expand government spending instead of giving you back your money. Isn't that just what our economy needs right now -- bigger government bureaucracies? That will certainly boost consumer confidence and spending. There is one more thing our economy doesn't need, and our nation's future certainly can do without -- a reinvigorated democrat party imposing its tax, spend, and regulate agenda, all thanks to GOP "moderates". Senate Democrat leader Tom Daschle crowed, "This is a huge victory.'' Bush's tax cuts "could be officially proclaimed as dead. Of course, these days, with modern medicine, anything can be revived ... but it is looking deader and deader.'' Thanks to Senators Jeffords, Chaffee, and Specter. Without solid republican support, Senator Pete Domenici submitted Senate Amendment # 170, in the nature of a substitute to House Concurrent Resolution 83 (Concurrent Resolution on the Budget for Fiscal Year 2002), in which the proposed $1.6 trillion tax cut over ten years, enacted by the House, was reduced to about a $1.3 tax cut over ten years. The Domenici amendment passed the Senate on Friday (roll call vote # 86) with a vote of 65 -- 35, all 50 republicans being joined by 15 democrats in favor, 35 of the most left-wing democrats opposed. It should be recalled that when candidate George W. Bush began his quest for the presidency, his proposal was for a tax cut in the neighborhood of $1.5 trillion, while candidate Al Gore and his democrat cohorts wanted a tax cut limited to $200 billion. And back in 1998, Al Gore led what the Washington Post called "a raucous democratic pep rally on the steps of the Capitol", vehemently opposing any tax cut at all. In fact, in the heat of the 2000 election campaign, Al Gore proposed such massive spending increases that any projected budget surpluses would have been devoured, and a tax increase of $1.6 trillion would have been necessary. Since then, democrats have been negotiating themselves upward in terms of how large a tax cut they would accept, and they finally agreed to a tax cut more than 600% larger than their original maximum. What the Senate finally passed on Friday was a tax cut more than six times larger than the previous democrat maximum, and less than 15% below Bush's original proposal. To paraphrase Tom Daschle, if this is a "huge victory" for democrats, lets have more of the same. The budget outlines enacted by the House and Senate are just that, outlines and not final legislation, and since the House and Senate blueprints are in conflict, the differing plans have to be reconciled in a conference committee. It is Senator Domenici's expectation that the final tax cut compromise will end up somewhere between the two plans, larger than the Senate's $1.3 trillion, but smaller than the House's $1.6 trillion. ENVIRONMENTAL EXTREMISM: Thanks to the policies pushed by radical environmentalists, California is in the process of reverting to the status of a Third World economy, complete with
Re: [CTRL] There's hope for Colleen/Saba after all. Thank youRobertWhite.
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Nurev Ind. wrote: What do you have against the poor monkey? ;-) I'm sorry June. I believe that humans are more important than animals. Now I do admit that classifying Colleen/Saba as a human is quite a stretch. No argument from me on both points...but in the case of Colleen, a monkey is of far more value...at least in the intellectual arena... ;-) I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt because I have yet to see a simian work a keyboard. But I might be wrong. It used to be said that if you had a roomful of monkeys with typewriters, given enough time they would type out the complete works of Shakespeare Nowadays, put a bunch of monkeys in a room full of desktop computers, and in a short time you will have any number of posts more meaningful than the blathersings of Colleen... In any case, there has never been a more obvious need for a monkey head transplant. I still say it would be cruel and unusual punishment for the monkey... ;-) June *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [narconews] Peru News Flash: Polls Close - It's Garcia v. Toledo
April 8, 2001 Breaking News Polls have closed in the Peru presidential election, and exit polls show that the top two candidates will go to a run-off election in May: former World Bank employee Alejandro Toledo v. former President Alan Garcia. Narco News reminds that for months, Clifford Krauss of the New York Times and other U.S. correspondents claimed the race was between two candidates expected to tow Washington's line and support Plan Colombia: Toledo and conservative candidate Lourdes Flores. Days ago, Narco News (still on page one: see "Here Comes Garcia?) suggested strongly that Garcia, under the slogan "neither neoliberalism nor neo-fascism," could pull off an upset. Thus, the Peruvian government's support for the $1.3 billion US- imposed Plan Colombia military intervention is now an open question. The May election will draw clear distinctions between the pro-U.S. position of Toledo and the historic anti-interventionist tendency of Garcia and his supporters. According to exit polls, Toledo received 41.3% of the vote, followed by Garcia with 24.7 percent (prior polls had listed Garcia in third place at 18%). The campaign was marked by savage personal attacks between Toledo and third-place finisher Lourdes Flores, making it very difficult for supporters of Flores (with 22.5% of the vote) to support Toledo in the final round next month. Garcia remained above the fray, praising all candidates and criticising the Fujimori-Montesinos regime that had deposed him in military coup a decade ago. The final election will be held 30 days after the votes are officially counted. You heard it here first... From somewhere in a country called Amrica, Al Giordano Publisher The Narco News Bulletin http://www.narconews.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[CTRL] Bravo for Mr. Aken's US History Class
-Caveat Lector- The following letter to Congress was written recently by a high school history class in San Antonio. This letter was written by students in a public high school. I find this very encouraging. The government indoctrination centers (a.k.a. the public schools), haven't yet managed to completely dumb down and brainwash all of our young people. Bravo for Mr. Aken's US History Class! Nakano ___ We the students of John Jay High School have learned that we are penalized (taxed) by the United States Government when we participate in the act of marriage. It is not enough that the government requires that we be licensed(taxed) when two people choose to live as one. The government taxes us when we make the decision to live as one, raises our tax bracket when we combine our incomes as one and penalizes us every year for the rest of our lives because we made this decision. We, the next generation, are of a mind not to get married, rather just to live together bypassing the government tax system. This nation was founded on the principal of individual freedom, personal liberty, and a removal of unjust taxes throughout history dictates this action. The highly unconstitutional inheritance tax is an example of how intrusive the federal government has become. If any American citizen purchases property or saves income and wishes to have these effects given to their children at the time of death, it shouldn't be taxed. Having paid Income tax on any saved funds and sales tax on purchased property, the government should not tax these items again when it passes between family generations. The government of the United States, under the control of a modern Congress, seems to forget the roots of the Constitution. The Congress seems to think money earned by the American people belongs to the government. Perhaps members of Congress should resign and move to a socialist country where they will feel more comfortable. As the next generation of Americans, we are being taught about Congress. We are being taught about unjust taxes. We are being taught how Congress violates the Constitution. We are being taught how our Constitutional rights are being removed or eroded. Soon we will be voting you and people like you out of office. If you cannot uphold the Constitution and the rights of the individual, you do not deserve to hold office in the United States. We understand that many of our parents are ignorant of Congress and how it works. We will not be used. We will not be ignorant. We will take control. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Media Lies Once Again to Declare Bush the Winner
-Caveat Lector- AMEN! AMEN! WELL SAID! On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 03:55:08 -0500 Amelia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Caveat Lector- Bill, Unfortunately, I do not think we will ever hear the end of this whining and disinformation from the Gore camps. I do wonder just what they think would have been so different and marvelous had we been treated to yet another term of 'the most ethical'? Did we have more secrets to sell to the Chinese? Did Al and Tipper also need furniture? Were there still people with enough money to buy pardons? Corporations left on which to play the old extortion/racists game? I know they are all corrupt but the lies Gore had already told left him totally without credibility. "I drank a lot of iced tea and was in the bathroom" being my personal favorite, I don't think most Americans could have stomached another four years! But the number of votes left in question are not the 'tens of thousands' of the original lies. Now they want to quibble over every vote! This was to have been the biggest civil rights violation since the legislation of '64! I guess this was an example of telling the "Big Lie." And with the economy in the tank, I cannot imagine why some are so desperate about this. They wanted the stock market to totally crash? More environmental extortion? I just do not understand how the election of an all-but-admitted communist (and we all know that did not work) would have been a good thing. Perhaps we need a few more details and scandals of the inner workings of the past administration to come to light. And they will. Amelia - Original Message - From: "Bill Howard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Media Lies Once Again to Declare Bush the Winner -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/6/01 4:14:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Media Lies Once Again to Declare Bush the Winner It doesn't matter. Gore conceded, Bush was sworn in as President. The end. Bill Howard A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [news] Hiding W's Illegitimacy
In a message dated 4/8/01 12:01:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.consortiumnews.com consortiumnews.com - http://www.consortiumnews.com --- ListBot Sponsor -- Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/links/joinlb -- Additional votes for Al Gore continue to pile up in unofficial Florida recounts, showing that under any rational standard, Gore beat George W. Bush in Florida. But the national news media continues to slant the stories in the most bizarre ways to give Bush the nod. It's as if the national press corps feels the American people just can't handle the truth: that Bush is an illegitimate president who really did steal the White House. For the full story on this bizarre chapter in the history of American journalism, go to Consortiumnews.com at http://www.consortiumnews.com __ To unsubscribe, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Caveat Lector- From http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a77bd7a2537.htm }}Begin FreeRepublic.com "A Conservative News Forum" [Last | Latest Posts | Latest Articles | Self Search | Add Bookmark | Post | Abuse | Help! ] Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. Firearms--Fantasy and Fact. Debunking the myths surrounding the new CCW law News/Current Events Front Page News Keywords: MICHIGAN CCW Source: Michigan Coalition of Responsible Gun Owners Published: January 31 Author: several Posted on 01/30/2001 23:23:38 PST by Dan from Michigan New Page 1 Firearms--Fantasy and Fact. Debunking the myths surrounding the new CCW law Submitted on: January 30, 2001 The governor's signing of Michigan's concealed weapons reform bill, HB 4530, on Jan. 2, 2001 has spawned a most incredible collection of media lies, fantasies, and distortions regarding firearms and crime. In order to pro vide thinking and rational people with facts to be used as rebuttal, this piece lists some of the more flagrant fantasies, followed by the relevant facts. Please feel free to use any or all of these data without attributi on as to source. It is more important to present these facts to people who are able to comprehend them. Fantasy: Michigan's new concealed weapons licensing law liberalizes the carrying of concealed pistols. Fact: Instead of liberalizing existing law, the new law provides much tighter requirements on applicants than does the current law. The new law "de-elitizes" current law and provides very strong restrictions on recipients of concealed weapons licenses, and is the most stringent law of any of the 32 "shall-issue" states. Current (pre-2001) law contains virtually no restrictions on who can receive a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Detailed studies of licensees in Kent County and Washtenaw County, as well as numerous reported experience s of applicants throughout the state, have shown that the most important criterion for receiving a license is to have friends on the concealed weapon licensing board. Permits are issued preferentially to ex-police, judges , politicians, rock stars, and the very wealthy, and few are granted to competent law-abiding citizens. The new law mandates state-wide uniformity in issuing concealed weapons licenses, and requires the following, where in each instance the old law required nothing: Anyone who has been convicted of a misdemeanor in the past 3 years is ineligible. Anyone under the age of 21 is ineligible. Anyone with a diagnosed mental health illness is ineligible. Every applicant must complete an 8-hour training course. Licensees cannot carry in any of the following locations: schools and school property, public and private; day care centers, public and private; college dormitories and classrooms; bars and restaurants that serve alcoho l; property of churches, synagogues, and mosques; sports arenas and stadiums; casinos; hospitals; auditoriums seating more than 2500. Licensees with blood alcohol greater than 0.02 percent are forbidden to carry. Current law allows some 3.5 million non-Michigan concealed weapon licensees and some 25,000 Michigan licensees to carry in *all* of the above locations. If the new law is repealed by initiative, this situation will contin ue. Fantasy: There will be "blood in the streets" from crimes committed by concealed weapons licensees if shall-issue becomes law. (Senator Alma Wheeler Smith, 18th District [Washtenaw County], personal correspondence.) Fact: It hasn't happened, anywhere. Concealed weapons licensees are incredibly law-abiding citizens. It hasn't happened in Florida, which was the first state with shall-issue laws: Since adopting CCW (1987), Florida's homicide rate has fallen 21% while the U.S. rate has risen 12%. From start-up 10/1/87 - 2/28/94 (over 6 years) Florida issued 204,108 permits; only 17 (0.008%) were revoked because per mittees later committed crimes (not necessarily violent) in which guns were present (not necessarily used). It hasn't happened in Kentucky: "None of our concerns have been borne out," said Hazard police Chief Rod Maggard, president of the Kentucky Chiefs of Police Association, which opposed the concealed-carry bill for fear it would invite citizens to take th e law into their own hands. A [Louisville, KY] Courier-Journal comparison of state police figures on the crime rate of permit holders with the crime rate of the state population at large shows that murder charges were pla ced against permit holders at a rate of 3.8 per 100,000 compared with 6.1 per 100,000 for the population at large during the three most recent years available. It hasn't happened in Texas: "I'm detecting that I'm eating a lot of
