[CTRL] Russia 'can't allow' U.S. to widen war to Iraq
Russia 'can't allow' U.S. to widen war to Iraq Thursday, October 18, 2001 MOSCOW — Russia has already signalled its opposition to a U.S. offensive against Iran and Iraq.Russian officials said Moscow would help Washington with the war on terrorism. But they said President Vladimir Putin would not allow the regime of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein or Iran to become a U.S. target in such a war.Moscow has sent weapons and troops to help the opposition Northern Alliance overthrow the Taliban regime in Afghanistan. Russia has also agreed to U.S. troops and combat planes in neighboring Uzbekistan, Middle East Newsline reported.Both Iran and Iraq are on the U.S. State Department list of terrorist sponsors. The Bush administration has been engaged in a debate over making Iraq a target in Washington's war on terrorism.Moscow has indicated that this is where it would draw the line. Russia has emerged as an ally of both Baghdad and Teheran."We can't allow the United States to wield its club the way it wants," Col. Sergei Goncharov, a leading Russian military analyst, said. "We are on good terms with Iran. We have tremendous economic investments in and expectations of Iraq. We can't afford to sever all these ties in one stroke. I foresee a major debate along these lines."Arab diplomatic sources said Moscow has relayed assurances to Washington that it will oppose a strike against Iraq.But Goncharov said Moscow might not oppose a surgical strike on Iraq should Washington bring proof that Saddam was involved in the Sept. 11 Islamic suicide attacks on New York and Washington."It's quite obvious: if there is proof that, say, Iraq harbors terrorists, then action is fair," Goncharov said. "But if they want to start carpet bombings, like in Yugoslavia, and then see what happens, it can't be allowed." Print this Article Email this article Free Headline Alerts 30 Percent Commission on Advertising Sold for World Tribune.com. Inquire Within. See current edition of Return toWorld Tribune.com Front Cover Contact World Tribune.com at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CTRL] Schools Hand Out 'Morning After' Pill (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- October 18, 2001 Schools Hand Out 'Morning After' Pill By Charles R. MiVille, Washington, D.C., correspondent http://www.family.org/cforum/fnif/news/a0018198.html For over a year, public schools have been using tax dollars to distribute the so-called morning-after pill to teens. Now, pro-lifers in and out of Congress are working to ban the practice by hitting abortionists where it hurts the most - in the pocketbook. The abortion industry calls it emergency contraception, but Carrie Gordon Earll, bioethics analyst for Focus on the Family, says it's more than that. Once a pregnancy has occurred and you take this high dose of birth control pills, it is a chemical abortion, Earll said. Many public schools now distribute this so-called morning after pill to teens, but some members of Congress are trying to stop the practice with legislation that would block federal funding to any school that gives out the pill. If you're going to do that, you can't have federal dollars, Earll said. We are not going to give federal dollars to schools that distribute abortion pills to teen-age girls. Rep. Melissa Hart, R-Pa., had planned to offer the amendment to an appropriations bill last week, but withdrew it from consideration at the last minute at House Speaker Dennis Hastert's request. John Cusey, executive director of the congressional Pro-Life Caucus, said most parents don't know this is happening. One of the most shocking things is people don't think that this is going on in schools, Cusey said. He noted that out of the 1,200 schools with clinics, 15 percent are giving out the drug. At least 180 schools do this right now, he said. Earll added: Schools have absolutely no business handing out morning after pills to teenage girls, especially without parental notification. . . . Schools are there to educate our children they are not there to encourage promiscuity and the types of behavior that are going to lead girls into risky behavior. Some schools give out the drug without a prescription. Earll and Cusey say one of the dangers of the morning after pill is that it creates a false sense of security. They say teens need to be warned of the severe health risks from the drugs as well as the danger of catching sexually transmitted diseases. [Forwarded For Information Purposes Only - Not Necessarily Endorsed By The Sender - A.K. Pritchard] -- A.K. Pritchard The Republican Web pages and email list And to the Republic for which it stands http://members.ll.net/chiliast/ God, Guns, Government History http://members.ll.net/chiliast/GGGH/index2.html Republic USA http://www.republicusa.org/ To Join The Republican Email List mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject=JOIN body=SUBSCRIBE To Leave The Republican Email List mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject=LEAVE body=UNSUBSCRIBE ... our efforts as educators must not be directed to restoring the past order of morality but to participating in creating a new one... when it is shed there will be a new moral order to take it's place... a counterculture that will burst through the surface. (Roberta T. Ash; Durkheim's Moral Education Reconsidered: Toward the Creation of a Counterculture. In SCHOOL REVIEW, November, 1971, p. 112) To be removed from this list, please click the link below. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=LEAVEbody=UNSUBSCRIBE A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Survival instincts vs. political correctness
-Caveat Lector- Survival instincts vs. political correctness http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20011018-27353210.htm Mona Charen Most of us can live with fear not happily, of course, but you endure what you must and people are more resilient than our therapeutic culture has suggested lately. But while Americans are flinty and will be courageous as required, we ought not be asked to withstand more than necessary. There are two ways in which our government may be asking that of us. The first is political correctness. While it is very true that we cannot and should not declare war against all Muslims worldwide, and while we cannot and should not persecute, insult or harass Arabs and Muslims within our borders, we must take steps to reduce our vulnerability to those who mean us terrible harm. If we are truly facing the threat of radiation weapons, biological agents or chemical weapons, then we are dealing with threats to our very survival as a nation. And if that is so, then should delicacy about political correctness inhibit us from doing everything necessary to defend ourselves? The FBI, reports Time magazine, is urgently searching for a group of about 30 Arab men who have received licenses to transport hazardous materials. These men, some of whom spoke little or no English, enrolled in a driving school in Denver, Colo., in groups of two and three over the past two years. Each small group was accompanied by the same interpreter. They paid in cash, and after receiving their licenses, never looked for work. They have disappeared. Attorney General John Ashcroft informs us there are at least 190 individuals associated with al Qaeda inside the United States whom authorities have been unable to apprehend. Those are the 190 we know about. We keep congratulating ourselves on what an open society we are. Fine, but let's not congratulate ourselves into an early grave. There are thousands of Arabs in the United States at this moment on student and travel visas. They should all be asked, politely and without prejudice, to go home. This will work hardships in many cases, and that is regrettable. But, there is no constitutional right to visit the United States. There is no constitutional right for foreign students to study here. This is not a proposal for concentration camps or even preventive detention (and this would not apply to citizens of Middle Eastern origin though they, too, should receive some scrutiny). It should be done more in sorrow than in anger, because we know only a tiny fraction of these people mean us harm. But we cannot take chances. This is no more than common sense. As for those missing hazardous materials drivers, the only answer is ethnic profiling. Every Middle Eastern-looking truck driver should be pulled over and questioned wherever he may be in the United States. There is a second fear that looms even larger: smallpox. Unlike anthrax, it is highly contagious and easy to transport. Unlike chemical weapons, it is easy to distribute. It could easily overwhelm us. All Americans born after about 1972 are unvaccinated. As for those over age 30 who received the vaccine at birth, there is serious doubt that the vaccine remains effective, since booster shots would have been required every decade. Something like 30 percent of those who contract smallpox will die a slow and painful death. Our health systems would be rapidly overwhelmed by such an epidemic. The economy would be destroyed, and national morale could crack as nearly every family buried at least one member. The government was ahead of the curve (for once), appropriating several million dollars in the late '90s for smallpox vaccine. But even the most optimistic assumptions cannot get all 280 million of us inoculated in less than two years (three is more realistic.) During the Gulf war, the United States privately warned Iraq that if chemical or biological weapons were used against our troops, we would consider all forms of retaliation. That was a balance of terror just what we need now. Nations can be deterred, but can terrorists? Only perhaps, by this: the certainty that in the 21st century, an epidemic cannot be contained on one continent. Even without a threat of retaliation in kind, the terrorists must be given to understand, by whatever method, that once unleashed, smallpox cannot be controlled. And the Muslim world would surely be even more devastated by it than would we. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity
[CTRL] So You Want To Be An Orthodoctor?
Original Message From: Chris Case [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some excerpts from: SO YOU WANT TO BE AN ORTHODOCTOR? http://www.nancho.net/memes/orthodoc.html by W.David Kubiak >>>"Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of our own choosing." George Orwell >>>..What orthodoctors essentially do (is to) configure the psychic attention fields, the habits of mind, that animate and synchronize vast social bodies and render them agreeably servile to the current tenants in head-quarters. >>>Threats are obvious tools of the trade, but threats are tricky. The efficiency of a body that must individually threaten its members into line is abysmal. An orthodoctrinal threat must not just inspire a specific fear, it must conjure a nameless dread. The best threats are thus implicit, generic, and external to the hierarchy they benefit. >>>Threats justify emotional appeals for individual self-sacrifice in the name of the Greater Good, which inexorably entail the sacrifice of personal rights, freedoms and liberties - "since we must single-mindedly resist this terrible scourge, you will immediately renounce any mind of your own..." >>>...All viable orthodoxies dominate not only the content of their constituents' vision, but also its inclination. They must control who members look up to or down upon, what rules will be observed or overlooked, and how frequently their unifying symbols receive ritual re-spect and re-gard. >>>Without historical exception, orthodoxies exist solely to enforce and embody egregious inequalities. The social bodies they in-form are always vertically aligned - whether by caste, race, class or corporate ranking - with all those beneath the noble brow inescapably working more, owning little, deciding less, and being steeply looked down upon to boot. >>>It appears so self-evident that challenging the corporate crew's invulnerable power today would be so clearly, plainly and obviously futile, that we may justifiably suspect we are caught up in some vast translucent orthodoxy ourselves. For even if we do not personally inhabit either a major corporate org or recognizable hierarchy, we all still abide in a psycho-social environment that has for many intensive generations been cultured from Big Bodies, by Big Bodies, and for Big Bodies. And that ubiquitous miasma just has to affect our air, not to mention taste and vision. >>>An orthodoxy is not merely a static assortment of canons, codes and myths of regulation. It is above all a vital morphogenetic force field that aligns and synchronizes our beings within a hierarchical Greater Whole. Over time, these Wholes become tightly integrated entities bonded with common symbols, customs, language, etc. But the key adhesive is attention. Ultimately, it matters little how unified your values, myths or goals if your members don't pay any attention to them. Rapt attention, whether elicited with fear, love or fascination, is thus the vital precursor of all social synchronization and the life force that in-forms, nourishes and animates all corporate bodies. >>>Next to Japan, Inc., the happiest exemplar of social organismics has to be our ancient amigo, the slime mold. The slime mold is not a civilized beast but, for a brief and shining moment at least, it is a paragon of orthodoxy and a startling corporate parable. A typical specimen starts off as hundreds of thousands of rugged individual amoebas trysting and boogying across the forest floor. One day, however, if the good life starts to wane and the living gets un-easy, low frequency angst starts to reverberate through the population. Out of this troubled time, a leader or "founder cell" rises up and sends forth a gaseous clarion call. The masses quickly throng to its charismatic chemistry, swarm atop its bandwagon, and eventually form a micro skyscraping spire of sweaty melded bodies called a grex. This pulsing phallic collective then magically comes alive with its own esprit de corps, subordinates all individual liberties to the Will and Progress of the Greater Whole, and single-mindedly inches off toward a promised Babylon. OK, that part is civilized enough. The wild part is that grex leaders keep their promises. After long but swift migrations, they bring their incorporated brethren to some auspicious eminence and expose them to the light. When a shaft finally strikes a grex from behind, it reacts with yet another miracle. Its leadership hunkers down and launches its members aloft in a glowing group gondola where each working class cell reclaims its individuality, identity and a buoyant spore parachute. They burst free, ride the wind and resume singular life in some brave new world. This final rite of passage is called fruition, and is doubly wondrous because the leaders profit not. In a truly mythic display of public spirit, they selflessly deliver their charges, re-equip them for independence, and philosophically remain behind
[CTRL] Danish FM Slaps Israel. (fwd)
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2001/10/19/News/News.36549.html Danish FM: Ze'evi murder same as targeted killings By Herb Keinon JERUSALEM (October 19) - Danish Foreign Minister Mogens Lykketoft infuriated Israeli diplomatic officials following tourism minister Rehavam Ze'evi's assassination, when he said on a Danish television program Wednesday night that there is no difference between the assassination and Israel's targeted killing of terrorists. "Political murder in that area is not anything new," Lykketoft said. According to Lykketoft, "all these types of murder, including what is called Israel's extrajudicial killing of Palestinian leaders," constitute a real danger and harm any chances of reaching a diplomatic solution. Lykketoft also said that he does not hold Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat responsible in any way for the assassination, adding that it is a mistake "to give the last terrorist veto rights over diplomatic negotiations." One senior government official in Jerusalem labeled Lykketoft an anti-Semite, and said that he is "the most anti-Israel foreign minister in Europe." This was not the first time that Lykketoft has enraged Israel with anti-Israel comments, yet it is the first time that officials have "taken off the gloves" in this manner in reaction to his comments. Victor Harel, the Foreign Ministry's deputy director-general for Europe, said the ministry was "shocked" by Lykketoft's comments. "We received dozens of condolence messages from Europe, and were touched by them," Harel said. "At the same time, we were shocked by declarations made by Lykketoft, in particular the comparison he made between Ze'evi's assassination and the targeted killing of terrorists." "We fail to understand how he can compare terrorists planning or on their way to commit terrorist acts, with a prominent political figure who has acted always in a democratic way." Harel said the comments were "completely unacceptable," and that the ministry has instructed Israeli Ambassador Carmi Gillon to convey Israel's "strong views" on the matter. = http://al-awda.org To sign Al-Awda's petition to terminate US aid to Israel go to: http://al-awda.org/terminate_aid_petition.htm To sign a letter asking Intel Corporation to disinvest from Israel go to: http://al-awda.org/campaign/intel_letter.htm = Al-Awda, The Palestine Right to Return Coalition is the largest network of grassroots activists dedicated to Palestinian human rights. Al-Awda develops, coordinates, supports and guides as needed global and local grassroots initiatives for action related to Palestinian refugee rights. Unless indicated otherwise, all statements posted represent the views of their authors and not necessarily those of Al-Awda or this list's management who may be reached anytime at [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To find out how to join an Al-Awda action committees in your area, please visit our website at http://al-awda.org. = Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[CTRL] Sharon warns of war.......
-Caveat Lector- http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001350019-2001363406,00.html 10/18/01 Israel says Arafat era is over FROM CHRISTOPHER WALKER IN JERUSALEM PLO fears leader is target of assassination plot Sharon warning of war within a week THE Middle East moved closer to a new war yesterday as Ariel Sharon declared the Arafat era over and moved tanks into three West Bank towns. Israel also killed a leading Palestinian militant, and the PLO claimed to have evidence that the Jewish state was plotting to assassinate its leader, Yassir Arafat. The rapid collapse of the peace process followed the murder of Rehavam Zeevi, the Israeli Tourism Minister, by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) on Wednesday. Mr Sharon said: Arafat has seven days to impose absolute quiet in the (occupied) territories. If not, we will go to war against him. As far as I am concerned, the era of Arafat is over. The Palestinians suspect that Israel has decided on its response to the killing of Mr Zeevi. Nabil Abu Rdainah, an Arafat aide, said that the Palestinian Authority had evidence that Israel was planning to assassinate Mr Arafat. Israels Security Cabinet is understood to have sent a blunt message to Mr Arafat that unless Israels conditions for the extradition of the killers and the outlawing of all Palestinian terror organisations were adhered to within one week he would be treated in the way in which the US treats the Taleban. Although there was some confusion about the precise timing of the new Israeli deadline for the surrender of the PFLP killers whose identity ministers claimed to know officials said that it would run out at the end of the seven-day mourning period for Mr Zeevi. In a reflection of the mood across much of Israel as Mr Zeevi, a former army general, was buried with full military honours in Jerusalem, his family and other mourners called for retaliation on a massive scale to avenge his murder. The latest Israeli targeted killing near the West Bank town of Bethlehem was that of Ataf Abayat, a member of the Tanzim militia of Mr Arafats Fatah faction. He died instantly in a car bomb explosion. He was high on Israels wanted list and blamed for the recent death of a woman settler. At least three other Palestinians were killed in clashes across the West Bank, as Israeli tanks entered the Palestinian towns of Jenin, Nablus and Ramallah. A 10-year-old schoolgirl was killed in Jenin and two Palestinian security men using automatic rifles to try to prevent tanks advancing into Ramallah also died. The Palestinians said that four other schoolgirls and three adults were wounded in Jenin. The killing of Mr Abayat, and two other Palestinian militants who were with him, led to reprisals by Palestinian gunmen, who fired on the Jerusalem suburb of Gilo, which Palestinians regard as an illegal Jewish settlement. A mortar bomb was fired late in the evening but there were no reports of injuries. In another incident an Israeli man was shot and killed and two of his companions were wounded in a drive-by shooting on the road between Jerusalem and the West Bank town of Jericho. Israeli sources refused to comment on the killing of Mr Abayat, who had recently been picked up by the Palestinian police and released soon after. He was on a wanted list Israel had given to Mr Arafat. The Palestinian Authority said that it had arrested 11 PFLP members, although it was not clear if they included the suspected assassins. Ziad Abu Zayad, a Palestinian Cabinet minister, said: If indeed the people behind Zeevis murder are inside Palestinian Authority territory, Arafat needs to arrest them and
[CTRL] 2 found with video of Sears Tower
-Caveat Lector- http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=2506013BRD=1674PAG=461dept_id=1 8041rfi=6 2 found with video of Sears Tower MICHELLE MOWAD, Special to The Mercury October 17, 2001 PLYMOUTH -- Two men whom police described as Middle Eastern were detained in the township by federal immigration authorities after being found with detailed video footage of the Sears Tower in Chicago. Plymouth Police encountered the men after an officer responded to Pizzeria Uno on the 1000 block of West Ridge Pike at 2:40 p.m. Thursday for a report of illegal dumping, according to reports. A manager there advised the police officer that a tractor-trailer was observed backed up to the Dumpster at the rear of the restaurant. The manager noticed a freshly dumped pile of furniture adjacent to the Dumpster, according to police. The manager confronted the vehicle's operator, a Middle Eastern man, police said. The man, who later identified himself as Moshe Elmakias, 30, denied that he did anything and fled the scene, heading west on West Ridge Pike, according to police. The manager was able to provide township police with the Florida registration number of the tractor-trailer and said that a sign posted on the side of the vehicle read Moving Systems Incorporated and included a phone number, police said. The area was searched by township police, and the vehicle was spotted parked on the curb in front of John Kennedy Ford on Ridge Pike, just west of Industrial Way. An officer proceeded to make contact with the occupants of the truck by knocking on the cab, according to reports. A Middle Eastern man, later identified as Ron Katar, 23, exited the sleeper area of the cab and said that the operator was across the street as he pointed toward the Don Rosen Porsche dealer, reports said. Elmakias and a white female, Ayelet Reisler, 23, were approaching the vehicle from the dealership, but the female then began walking in a different direction, acting as if she were not with Elmakias, according to reports. Reisler was detained and checked for identification. She had a German passport in her name and medication in a different name, police said. Plymouth Police Sgt. Thomas Longo was notified and responded to the incident. Elmakias allegedly admitted to being behind Pizzeria Uno, although he said that he did not dump furniture, he was only turning around. Elmakias said that his destination was New York and that he was also coming from New York. He said he was in Plymouth because he was supposed to make a pickup from a male in the morning and pointed toward the Storage USA facility on Belvoir Road and West Ridge Pike, police said. Elmakias could not, however, provide a name or telephone number of the customer. Township police dispatched a request for a Motor Carrier Safety Assistance Program Inspector. Officer Gerald Schwartz of the Whitpain Police Department responded. Schwartz discovered through his investigation that the operator's log had been falsified and put the truck out of service due to violations, police said. In addition, the vehicle reportedly had numerous equipment violations that rendered the truck unsafe. Inspection of the tractor-trailer's contents revealed a load three-quarters full containing household items, including furniture and boxes. Among the items in the truck was a Sony video camera. Plymouth Police Officer David McCann reviewed the tape found inside the camera. The tape had video footage of Chicago with zoomed-in shots of the Sears Tower, according to police. The Federal Bureau of Investigation was notified of the incident and all three subjects were transported to the Plymouth Police station. The subjects were then processed through the National Crime Information Center and placed into detention, according to the report. FBI Agents James Sweeney and Richard Tofani arrived at the station and proceeded to investigate both the subjects and their belongings with the assistance of Immigration and Naturalization Services. Elmakias and Katar were eventually detained by INS and transported to a federal facility, said police. Reisler was released. All evidence collected by Plymouth and Whitpain officers was transferred to federal facilities with the exception of a VCR. Special Agent Linda Vizi, a spokeswoman for the Philadelphia FBI, could not be contacted for comment on further investigations. ©The Mercury 2001 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives
Re: [CTRL] Sharon warns of war.......
-Caveat Lector- Se viene la segunda en la zona matan al pelotudo de Arafat (un tipo poco luchador y de mucho negociar y ceder), viene uno más jodido y aguerrido, se juntan los estados árabes entre las dos guerras y se arma el gran quilombo. Hablaste con Tati? Qué ondina? Qué llevamos? Qué so? Qué mado? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19/10/01 08:03 -Caveat Lector- http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001350019-2001363406,00.html 10/18/01 Israel says Arafat era is over FROM CHRISTOPHER WALKER IN JERUSALEM PLO fears leader is target of assassination plot Sharon warning of war within a week THE Middle East moved closer to a new war yesterday as Ariel Sharon declared the Arafat era over and moved tanks into three West Bank towns. Israel also killed a leading Palestinian militant, and the PLO claimed to have evidence that the Jewish state was plotting to assassinate its leader, Yassir Arafat. The rapid collapse of the peace process followed the murder of Rehavam Zeevi, the Israeli Tourism Minister, by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) on Wednesday. Mr Sharon said: Arafat has seven days to impose absolute quiet in the (occupied) territories. If not, we will go to war against him. As far as I am concerned, the era of Arafat is over. The Palestinians suspect that Israel has decided on its response to the killing of Mr Zeevi. Nabil Abu Rdainah, an Arafat aide, said that the Palestinian Authority had evidence that Israel was planning to assassinate Mr Arafat. Israel's Security Cabinet is understood to have sent a blunt message to Mr Arafat that unless Israel's conditions for the extradition of the killers and the outlawing of all Palestinian terror organisations were adhered to within one week he would be treated in the way in which the US treats the Taleban. Although there was some confusion about the precise timing of the new Israeli deadline for the surrender of the PFLP killers * whose identity ministers claimed to know * officials said that it would run out at the end of the seven-day mourning period for Mr Zeevi. In a reflection of the mood across much of Israel as Mr Zeevi, a former army general, was buried with full military honours in Jerusalem, his family and other mourners called for retaliation on a massive scale to avenge his murder. The latest Israeli targeted killing near the West Bank town of Bethlehem was that of Ataf Abayat, a member of the Tanzim militia of Mr Arafat's Fatah faction. He died instantly in a car bomb explosion. He was high on Israel's wanted list and blamed for the recent death of a woman settler. At least three other Palestinians were killed in clashes across the West Bank, as Israeli tanks entered the Palestinian towns of Jenin, Nablus and Ramallah. A 10-year-old schoolgirl was killed in Jenin and two Palestinian security men using automatic rifles to try to prevent tanks advancing into Ramallah also died. The Palestinians said that four other schoolgirls and three adults were wounded in Jenin. The killing of Mr Abayat, and two other Palestinian militants who were with him, led to reprisals by Palestinian gunmen, who fired on the Jerusalem suburb of Gilo, which Palestinians regard as an illegal Jewish settlement. A mortar bomb was fired late in the evening but there were no reports of injuries. In another incident an Israeli man was shot and killed and two of his companions were wounded in a drive-by shooting on the road between Jerusalem and the West Bank town of Jericho. Israeli sources refused to comment on the killing of Mr Abayat, who had recently been picked up by the Palestinian police and released soon after. He was on a wanted list Israel had given to Mr Arafat. The Palestinian Authority said that it had arrested 11
[CTRL] Excuse me
-Caveat Lector- Sorry, that mail was to my sister, not to CTRL ! Fer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19/10/01 09:26 -Caveat Lector- Se viene la segunda en la zona matan al pelotudo de Arafat (un tipo poco luchador y de mucho negociar y ceder), viene uno más jodido y aguerrido, se juntan los estados árabes entre las dos guerras y se arma el gran quilombo. Hablaste con Tati? Qué ondina? Qué llevamos? Qué so? Qué mado? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19/10/01 08:03 -Caveat Lector- http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2001350019-2001363406,00.html 10/18/01 Israel says Arafat era is over FROM CHRISTOPHER WALKER IN JERUSALEM PLO fears leader is target of assassination plot Sharon warning of war within a week THE Middle East moved closer to a new war yesterday as Ariel Sharon declared the Arafat era over and moved tanks into three West Bank towns. Israel also killed a leading Palestinian militant, and the PLO claimed to have evidence that the Jewish state was plotting to assassinate its leader, Yassir Arafat. The rapid collapse of the peace process followed the murder of Rehavam Zeevi, the Israeli Tourism Minister, by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) on Wednesday. Mr Sharon said: Arafat has seven days to impose absolute quiet in the (occupied) territories. If not, we will go to war against him. As far as I am concerned, the era of Arafat is over. The Palestinians suspect that Israel has decided on its response to the killing of Mr Zeevi. Nabil Abu Rdainah, an Arafat aide, said that the Palestinian Authority had evidence that Israel was planning to assassinate Mr Arafat. Israel's Security Cabinet is understood to have sent a blunt message to Mr Arafat that unless Israel's conditions for the extradition of the killers and the outlawing of all Palestinian terror organisations were adhered to within one week he would be treated in the way in which the US treats the Taleban. Although there was some confusion about the precise timing of the new Israeli deadline for the surrender of the PFLP killers * whose identity ministers claimed to know * officials said that it would run out at the end of the seven-day mourning period for Mr Zeevi. In a reflection of the mood across much of Israel as Mr Zeevi, a former army general, was buried with full military honours in Jerusalem, his family and other mourners called for retaliation on a massive scale to avenge his murder. The latest Israeli targeted killing near the West Bank town of Bethlehem was that of Ataf Abayat, a member of the Tanzim militia of Mr Arafat's Fatah faction. He died instantly in a car bomb explosion. He was high on Israel's wanted list and blamed for the recent death of a woman settler. At least three other Palestinians were killed in clashes across the West Bank, as Israeli tanks entered the Palestinian towns of Jenin, Nablus and Ramallah. A 10-year-old schoolgirl was killed in Jenin and two Palestinian security men using automatic rifles to try to prevent tanks advancing into Ramallah also died. The Palestinians said that four other schoolgirls and three adults were wounded in Jenin. The killing of Mr Abayat, and two other Palestinian militants who were with him, led to reprisals by Palestinian gunmen, who fired on the Jerusalem suburb of Gilo, which Palestinians regard as an illegal Jewish settlement. A mortar bomb was fired late in the evening but there were no reports of injuries. In another incident an Israeli man was shot and killed and two of his companions were wounded in a drive-by shooting on the road between Jerusalem and the West Bank town of Jericho. Israeli sources refused to comment on the killing of Mr Abayat, who had recently been picked up by the Palestinian police and released soon after. He was on a wanted list Israel
Re: [CTRL] Sharon warns of war.......
-Caveat Lector- Hables espanol? Something like that - so, Sharon now wants to murder Arafat? Big deal - the guy is so old now he needs help to get to the john. So what we need and this is my game plan we poison the water with aphrosdiacs, that is a sex drug - make love not war... Like K 9 dogs, they have to neuter those dogs before they go to war because, dogs will be dogs, but then men will be men too and for every goodlooking man, there is a woman who lets him believe, he is doing the chasing, while she lays the trap. So much for Peace In Our Time - to be continued. Imagine sending in all these handsome men with bright cheery handsome faces - true Sons of the Prophets - run for office and take over. You know that guy that was just assassinated was going to nail Sharon, so Sharon nailed him first..why the hell would the Palestinians knock off this Minister of Tourism who had just resignedthink about that - so are some of these so called terrorists in the employ of the Mossad. stop the welfare to Israel and stop the war. And this Ariel Sharon - now imagine a Rudolph Valentino with love in his eyes, running against this fat assed creep. Saba A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] RE: [CTRL] Interview W/ Michael Ruppert
-Caveat Lector- Bear in mind that Senator Carl Levin (D-Mich.) has documented that 300 billion dollars a year in drug money moves through the US banking system. And that was in a minority report to the Senate Banking Committee released this February, I believe it was. But that money is now an integral component to sustaining the bubble. They're not teaching my daughter about that in economics class, that's for sure. The fact is, any money spent is good according to the economists; that's the dirty little secret of the American way of life. The worst thing for the US economy is a consumer who is not consuming (spending). That's why we have personal bankruptcy, which basically allows people to resume consumption. So the moral answer, decriminalizing drugs so the price drops and profits shrivel, is in opposition to expanding the economy, which I contend is the real religion of the USA at this point. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) LP RELEASE: Anthrax attacks
-Caveat Lector- the interesting thing of course is that all this anthrax is being mailed domestically, and no one knows who is doing it. hard to blame foreign policy when you dont know who the perpetrator is yet -- --- - Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won out over it Elwood P Dowd NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Euphorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:11:48 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] (Fwd) LP RELEASE: Anthrax attacks -Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:05:45 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:LP RELEASE: Anthrax attacks From: Libertarian Party Announcements [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- === NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100 Washington DC 20037 World Wide Web: http://www.LP.org === For release: October 18, 2001 === For additional information: George Getz, Press Secretary Phone: (202) 333-0008 Ext. 222 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === There's only one way to protect the U.S. against anthrax terrorist attacks WASHINGTON, DC -- The outbreak of anthrax on Capitol Hill is ultimate proof that nothing can protect all Americans from unpredictable retail terrorist attacks -- and that the only long-term solution is to move towards a Protect America First foreign policy to deprive terrorists of their rationale for targeting us, the Libertarian Party said today. With these anthrax attacks, terrorists have demonstrated that they have the ability to attack and injure Americans in grisly ways no one predicted, and in ways that are all but impossible to protect against, said Steve Dasbach, the party's national director. That's why, even as we pray for the men and women in Washington, DC who have been exposed to this deadly disease, we must point out: A non- interventionist foreign policy is the only real protection against ruthless, cunning, and savage terrorists. Only a non-interventionist foreign policy will help keep Americans safe from hijackings, bioterrorism, and whatever vicious and evil future attacks such terrorists might conceive. This week, 31 Congressional staffers and police tested positive for anthrax exposure, causing panic on Capitol Hill and prompting the U.S. House to temporarily shut down. The airborne anthrax spores that triggered the infections had apparently been mailed in an envelope to Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle's office. The anthrax is believed to be the same strain that caused outbreaks in at least two other states and killed one man in Florida, leading the FBI to speculate that the attacks are the work of terrorists. If that is indeed the case, the anthrax assault is evidence that law enforcement can never completely stop unconventional terrorist attacks, said Dasbach. Most of the U.S. government's anti-terrorism plans revolve around what might be called wholesale terrorism: Airline hijackings, truck bombs, poisoned water supplies, and so on, he said. Those kinds of attacks focus on killing large numbers of people, and are best thwarted by heightened vigilance and traditional law enforcement techniques. But with the anthrax assault, the terrorists have begun to engage in retail terrorism -- using methods that kill individually, but are designed to strike fear into the entire population. The problem with such retail terrorism, said Dasbach, is that it is nearly impossible to individually defend 280 million Americans from such threats, especially if the terrorists continue to use original and innovative methods. If you look at countries that are most vigilant against terrorism -- like Israel -- you see that terrorists are still able to assassinate politicians, bomb restaurants, and launch sniper attacks on remote farms, he said. The danger is even greater in the United States, since we are a more open nation. Who knows what terrorists might do next: Plant anthrax spores in food products in your local supermarket? Put smallpox bacteria in a public swimming pool? Drop plague-causing agents into the ventilation system of a hotel? Or launch some other kind of deadly offensive we can't even predict? That's why the only viable long-term solution is to make sure that terrorists have less incentive to try to kill Americans, said Dasbach. And the only way to accomplish that is to adjust our foreign policy so it focuses on defending America, while steering clear of foreign conflicts, hatreds, and feuds. Our foreign policy
Re: [CTRL] 2 found with video of Sears Tower
-Caveat Lector- so now anyone who took a picture of the WTC is a suspect? -- -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - - - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. Edward R. Murrow NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew From: Yardbird [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:07:26 -0300 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] 2 found with video of Sears Tower -Caveat Lector- http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=2506013BRD=1674PAG=461dept_id=1 8041rfi=6 2 found with video of Sears Tower MICHELLE MOWAD, Special to The Mercury October 17, 2001 PLYMOUTH -- Two men whom police described as Middle Eastern were detained in the township by federal immigration authorities after being found with detailed video footage of the Sears Tower in Chicago. Plymouth Police encountered the men after an officer responded to Pizzeria Uno on the 1000 block of West Ridge Pike at 2:40 p.m. Thursday for a report of illegal dumping, according to reports. A manager there advised the police officer that a tractor-trailer was observed backed up to the Dumpster at the rear of the restaurant. The manager noticed a freshly dumped pile of furniture adjacent to the Dumpster, according to police. The manager confronted the vehicle's operator, a Middle Eastern man, police said. The man, who later identified himself as Moshe Elmakias, 30, denied that he did anything and fled the scene, heading west on West Ridge Pike, according to police. The manager was able to provide township police with the Florida registration number of the tractor-trailer and said that a sign posted on the side of the vehicle read Moving Systems Incorporated and included a phone number, police said. The area was searched by township police, and the vehicle was spotted parked on the curb in front of John Kennedy Ford on Ridge Pike, just west of Industrial Way. An officer proceeded to make contact with the occupants of the truck by knocking on the cab, according to reports. A Middle Eastern man, later identified as Ron Katar, 23, exited the sleeper area of the cab and said that the operator was across the street as he pointed toward the Don Rosen Porsche dealer, reports said. Elmakias and a white female, Ayelet Reisler, 23, were approaching the vehicle from the dealership, but the female then began walking in a different direction, acting as if she were not with Elmakias, according to reports. Reisler was detained and checked for identification. She had a German passport in her name and medication in a different name, police said. Plymouth Police Sgt. Thomas Longo was notified and responded to the incident. Elmakias allegedly admitted to being behind Pizzeria Uno, although he said that he did not dump furniture, he was only turning around. Elmakias said that his destination was New York and that he was also coming from New York. He said he was in Plymouth because he was supposed to make a pickup from a male in the morning and pointed toward the Storage USA facility on Belvoir Road and West Ridge Pike, police said. Elmakias could not, however, provide a name or telephone number of the customer. Township police dispatched a request for a Motor Carrier Safety Assistance Program Inspector. Officer Gerald Schwartz of the Whitpain Police Department responded. Schwartz discovered through his investigation that the operator's log had been falsified and put the truck out of service due to violations, police said. In addition, the vehicle reportedly had numerous equipment violations that rendered the truck unsafe. Inspection of the tractor-trailer's contents revealed a load three-quarters full containing household items, including furniture and boxes. Among the items in the truck was a Sony video camera. Plymouth Police Officer David McCann reviewed the tape found inside the camera. The tape had video footage of Chicago with zoomed-in shots of the Sears Tower, according to police. The Federal Bureau of Investigation was notified of the incident and all three subjects were transported to the Plymouth Police station. The subjects were then processed through the National Crime Information Center and placed into detention, according to the report. FBI Agents James Sweeney and Richard Tofani arrived at the station and proceeded to investigate both the subjects and their belongings with the assistance of Immigration and Naturalization Services. Elmakias and Katar were eventually detained by INS and transported to a federal facility, said police. Reisler was released. All evidence collected by Plymouth and Whitpain officers was transferred to federal facilities with the exception of a VCR. Special Agent Linda Vizi, a
[CTRL] The Rifle and the Veil
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/19/opinion/19GOOD.html?search pv=nytToday October 19, 2001 The Rifle and the Veil By JAN GOODWIN and JESSICA NEUWIRTH Anyone who has paid attention to the situation of women in Afghanistan should not have been surprised to learn that the Taliban are complicit in terrorism. When radical Muslim movements are on the rise, women are the canaries in the mines. The very visible repression of forced veiling and loss of hard-won freedoms coexists naturally with a general disrespect for human rights. This repression of women is not about religion; it is a political tool for achieving and consolidating power. Sher Abbas Stanakzai, then the Taliban regime's deputy foreign minister, admitted as much in a 1997 interview. Our current restrictions of women are necessary in order to bring the Afghan people under control, he said. We need these restrictions until people learn to obey the Taliban. In the same way that many Islamic extremist crusades use the oppression of women to help them gain control over wider populations, the Taliban and Osama bin Laden are now employing the tactics of terrorism to gain control. The Taliban did not start the oppression of Afghan women, nor have they been its only practitioners. In 1989, Arab militants working with the Afghan resistance to the Soviet Union based in Peshawar, Pakistan and helping to finance the resistance fighters issued a fatwa, or religious ruling, stating that Afghan women would be killed if they worked for humanitarian organizations. At that time, a third of the Afghan population of 15 million were displaced from their homes, and many were heavily dependent on humanitarian groups for food and other necessities. Among the 3.5 million of these refugees who were then living in Pakistan, many were war widows supporting their families by working for the aid groups. After the fatwa, Afghan women going to work were shot at and several were murdered. Some international aid groups promptly stopped employing Afghan women, and though many women were infuriated, most complied after being intimidated by the violent attacks. Soon afterward, another edict in Peshawar forbade Afghan women to walk with pride or walk in the middle of the street and said they must wear the hijab, the Arab black head and body covering and half-face veil. Again, most women felt they had no choice but to comply. In 1990, a fatwa from Afghan leaders in Peshawar decreed that women should not attend schools or become educated, and that if they did, the Islamic movement would meet with failure. The document measured 2 feet by 3 feet to accommodate the signatures of about 200 mullahs and political leaders representing the majority of the seven main mujahedeen parties of Afghanistan. The leading school for Afghan girls in Peshawar, where many Afghan refugees still lived, was sprayed with Kalashnikov gunfire. It closed for months, and its principal was forced into hiding. When an alliance of mujahedeen groups took over in Kabul in 1992, it forced women out of news broadcasting and government ministry jobs and required them to wear veils. But it was the Taliban who institutionalized the total oppression of women after Kabul fell to them four years later, and who required the total coverage of the now familiar burqa. Now, as Afghans, Pakistanis and Americans look to the future of Afghanistan, most plans call for a broad-based new government giving representation to all of Afghanistan's ethnic groups and major political parties, including the Taliban. No one, however, has called for the participation of women, even though women, after many years of war, now almost certainly make up the majority of the adult Afghan population. Afghan women gradually gained rights in the first decades of the 20th century. Women helped write their country's Constitution in 1964. They served in parliament and the cabinet and were diplomats, academics, professionals, judges and even army generals. All of this happened well before the Soviets arrived in 1979, with their much-touted claim of liberating Afghan women. Many of the forces now opposing the Taliban include signatories of the later fatwas that deprived Afghan women of their rights. History is repeating itself. Any political process that moves forward without the representation and participation of women will undermine any chances that the principles of democracy and human rights will take hold in Afghanistan. It will be the first clue that little has changed. Jan Goodwin is author of Price of Honor, a book on women and Islamic extremism. Jessica Neuwirth is president of Equality Now, an international women's rights group. -- Best wishes I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are the good people and the bad peopleYou're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, *but some of them are on opposite sides.* ùThe Patrician, character in _Guards, Guards_, Terry Pratchett
[CTRL] The Aliens Amongst Us (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- [Note: Personally I believe that the radical elements of Islam, those who are NOT following the dictates of the Koran, are those who proclaim peace. The Islamic Arab who is waging war against us is indeed following the Koran rather than the other way around, and they are in the majority. I also believe that Islam sees this war as the beginning of a new world totally under Islam, as Yousef Salem proclaimed to Joseph Farah in an email to WorldNetDaily The days of light will soon dawn and you will find yourself in the dark along with your ilk. - Tony] NewsMax-Savage October 19, 2001 The Aliens Amongst Us Hello infidels! I feel as though I am living in a science fiction movie of the 1950s. You know - where the aliens have invaded and they're killing us. That's where the analogy with the 1950s science fiction movie ends. You see, in the 1950s science fiction movies, when the thing invaded us, or when the aliens invaded us, we called out the military and they threw everything they had at the aliens. We have been invaded by the aliens who are killing us, and yet we act as though we do not know what they look like, nor where they live. Yes, ladies and gentlemen we are fighting a politically correct war and the outcome is not certain. Unless there is a systemic change in the mentality of our government, I do not predict an early victory. There's a situation going on that we all know is getting out of control and yet we have the same group of people who let it happen, telling us to trust them. The very same people, who like the Keystone Cops let the terrorists do this to us, are now telling us to have perfect confidence in them. They have yet to fire anybody, they have yet to arrest anybody in the government for having failed us. They have not replaced any heads of the security agencies, but we're supposed to say everything is good now, because the government is all perfect. Think back to a 1950s sci-fi movie. We've been invaded by aliens. They're killing us and they're spreading a toxin throughout the nation. They blew up two of our biggest buildings; they killed five thousand beautiful people, each one of who is worth one thousand or ten thousand of them. I see beautiful men and women who kissed their husband or wife goodbye and worked so hard to raise their families right. And they were killed for nothing by degenerate, jealous, low-life scum who have never created anything, who live only to kill, and who are jealous of what we have and what we've created. We've been invaded by these aliens; we know just what they look like and we know where they live, and yet we hear, Leave it to us, leave it to us. Aliens have invaded us, they are amongst us, they're killing us, yet we act as though we do not know what they look like, nor where they live. Why do you suppose that is? You wouldn't know it by watching the news. You would think they are talking about a nefarious group of people called terrorists. Well, they have names and faces and I am getting good and sick of pretending that we do not know where they are! Michael Savage is America's fastest growing nationally syndicated talk show host. Visit his Paul Revere Society Web site at http://www.thepaulreveresociety.com [Forwarded For Information Purposes Only - Not Necessarily Endorsed By The Sender - A.K. Pritchard] -- A.K. Pritchard The Republican Web pages and email list And to the Republic for which it stands http://members.ll.net/chiliast/ God, Guns, Government History http://members.ll.net/chiliast/GGGH/index2.html Republic USA http://www.republicusa.org/ To Join The Republican Email List mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject=JOIN body=SUBSCRIBE To Leave The Republican Email List mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject=LEAVE body=UNSUBSCRIBE Freedom is strangely ephemeral. It is something like breathing; one only becomes acutely aware of its importance when one is choking. William E. Simon Secretary of the Treasury (Nixon Ford) A Time for Truth, 1978 To be removed from this list, please click the link below. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=LEAVEbody=UNSUBSCRIBE A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives
Re: [CTRL] The Aliens Amongst Us (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Michael Savage is America's fastest growing nationally syndicated talk show host. Does that mean he will soon be 8 feet tall? Or is he just getting fat? Visit his Paul Revere Society Web site at http://www.thepaulreveresociety.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) LP RELEASE: Anthrax attacks
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/19/01 7:35:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the interesting thing of course is that all this anthrax is being mailed domestically, and no one knows who is doing it. hard to blame foreign policy when you dont know who the perpetrator is yet The only thing we know about the anthrax situation is that it is intended to cause panic and fear. Anthrax as a weapon is hard to produce and hard to deliever, there are better choices, i.e., West Nile fever, small pox, flu. This is being done to scare the bee Jesus out of us as a nation, and it is working. BHoward Never engage in a philosophical debate on the battlefield of the absurd. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 2 found with video of Sears Tower
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/19/01 7:37:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so now anyone who took a picture of the WTC is a suspect? Could be. But, then, they could be innocent tourists. What about the young man who was denied boarding in Philly because the book he was reading had a piture of a bomb on the jacket. Our duly deputized law enforcement officials are losing it, big time. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Mogen David over Foggy Bottom-Some interesting quotations (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:05:39 -0500 From: Robert E. Nordlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PalestineDiary] Mogen David over Foggy Bottom-Some interesting quotations The Zionist lobby has a hobby Leading Congress by the nose, So anywhere the lobby points There surely Congress goes. Dr. Edwin Wright former US State Dept. employee and interpreter for President Eisenhower We can't have all our policies made in Jerusalem. WARRIORS AT SUEZ by Donald Neff, p. 432 Secretary of State John Foster Dulles I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy not approved by the Jews. Marshall and Forrestal learned that. I am going to try to have one. Ibid., p. 433 --- I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get Congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the Congress through influential Jewish people in this country. Ibid. -- A great deal depends on whether Ben Gurion can control our government through the Jewish pressure here. Ibid. --- There is a strong Jewish lobby. I do not understand why the Jewish community should resent it being labeled as such. They are a very effective lobby. (Rep. Paul M. McCloskey, July 7, 1981, A CHANGING IMAGE: AMERICAN PERCEPTIONS OF THE ARAB-ISRAELI DISPUTE. Richard H. Curtiss, p. 262.). We have to respect the views of our Jewish citizens, but not be controlled by them. (IBID., p .268). I've never seen a President--I don't care who he is-- stand up to them...They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip these people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms. (Admiral Thomas Moorer, Former Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff, 1984, IBID., p. 267). Don't look to Congress to act. All we know is how to increase aid to Israel. (Rep. Lee Hamilton, IBID., p. 339). The death of U.S. Senator Henry Jackson has been one of the greatest losses Israel has suffered during the past 10 years...He was a one-man Israeli Army. (IBID., [Editorial in Israeli newspaper YEDIOT AHARONOT, November 9, 1983]). Long ago I decided that I'd vote for anything AIPAC wants...I don't need the trouble (pro-Israel lobbyists) can cause. I made up my mind I would get and keep their support... (Rep. Clarence D. Long, 1982, IBID.). ...It is no overstatement to say that AIPAC has effectively gained control of virtually all of Capitol Hill's action on Middle East policy. Almost without exception, House and Senate members do its bidding, because most of them consider AIPAC to be the direct Capitol Hill representative of political forces that can make or break their chances at election time. (Paul Findley, Former Representative, 1985, IBID.). At the State Department we used to predict that if Israel's prime minister should announce that t he world is flat, within 24 hours Congress would pass a resolution congratulating him on the discovery. (Don Bergus, Former Ambassador to Sudan, 1985, IBID.). The discussion in this chapter [The Israeli Lobby] leads to the conclusion that the power of the Israeli lobby over the formation and execution of U.S. Middle East policy has become a virtual stranglehold. (p. 374, University of Illinois Press, Chicago.). Cheryl Rubenberg, --- At 07:41 AM 10/19/01 -0700, you wrote: The Arabists have been steering the State Department now for decades. Even after 11 September we hear the fiction that Islam is a religion (howzzat grabya?) of peace. State even compelled the Zionists to recognize and aid Croatia. A refreshing change from the Clinton administrations when the Zionists ran the show. RN Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/hkJplB/TM -~- To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ A
[CTRL] Words of Wisdom About Gas, Germs, and Nukes (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Excerpt: These weapons are made to cause panic, terror, and to demoralize. If we don't run around like sheep, they won't use this stuff after they find out it's no fun and does them little good. The government is going nuts over this stuff because they have to protect every inch of America. You only have to protect yourself, and by doing that, you help the country. Words of Wisdom About Gas, Germs, and Nukes By SFC Red Thomas, Armor Master Gunner U.S. Army (Ret) 10.19.01 http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/oct/19/arrt101901.htm Since the media have decided to scare everyone with predictions of chemical, biological, or nuclear warfare on our turf I decided to write a paper and keep things in their proper perspective. I am a retired military weapons, munitions, and training expert. Lesson number one: In the mid 1990s there was a series of nerve gas attacks on crowded Japanese subway stations. Given perfect conditions for an attack, less than 10% of the people there were injured (the injured were better in a few hours) and only one percent of the injured died. CBS-Television's 60 Minutes once had a fellow telling us that one drop of nerve gas could kill a thousand people. He didn't tell you the thousand dead people per drop was theoretical. Drill Sergeants exaggerate how terrible this stuff is to keep the recruits awake in class (I know this because I was a Drill Sergeant too). Forget everything you've ever seen on TV, in the movies, or read in a novel about this stuff, it was all a lie (Read this sentence again out loud!). These weapons are about terror, if you remain calm, you will probably not die. This is far less scary than the media and their experts make it sound. Chemical weapons are categorized as Nerve, Blood, Blister, and Incapacitating agents. Contrary to the hype of reporters and politicians, they are not weapons of mass destruction. They are means of Area Denial, effective to keep an enemy out of a particular zone for a limited period of time: terror weapons that don't destroy anything. When you leave the area you almost always leave the risk. That's the difference; you can leave the area and the risk. Soldiers may have to stay put and sit through it and that's why they need all that spiffy gear. These are not gasses; they are vapors and/or airborne particles. Any such agent must be delivered in sufficient quantity to kill or injure, and that defines when and how it's used. Every day we have a morning and evening atmospheric inversion where stuff, suspended in the air gets pushed down. This inversion is why allergies (pollen) and air pollution are worst at these times of the day. So, a chemical attack will have its best effect an hour of so either side of sunrise or sunset. Also, being vapors and airborne particles, the agents are heavier than air, so they will seek low places like ditches, basements and underground garages. This stuff won't work when it's freezing, it doesn't last when it's hot, and wind spreads it too thin too fast. Attackers have to get this stuff on you, or, get you to inhale it, for it to work. They also have to get the concentration of chemicals high enough to kill or injure you: too little and it's nothing, too much and it's wasted. What I hope you've gathered by this point is that a chemical weapons attack that kills a lot of people is incredibly hard to achieve with military grade agents and equipment. So you can imagine how hard it would be for terrorists. The more you know about this stuff, the more you realize how hard it is to use. A Case of Nerves We'll start by talking about nerve agents. You have these in your house: plain old bug killer (like Raid) is nerve agent. All nerve agents work the same way; they are cholinesterase inhibitors that mess up the signals your nervous system uses to make your body function. It can harm you if you get it on your skin but it works best if you to inhale it. If you don't die in the first minute and you can leave the area, you're probably going to live. The military's antidotes for all nerve agents are atropine and pralidoxime chloride. Neither one of these does anything to cure the nerve agent. They send your body into overdrive to keep you alive for five minutes. After that the agent is used up. Your best protection is fresh air and staying calm. Listed below are the symptoms for nerve agent poisoning. Sudden headache, Dimness of vision (someone you're looking at will have pinpointed pupils), Runny nose, Excessive saliva or drooling, Difficulty breathing, Tightness in chest, Nausea, Stomach cramps, Twitching of exposed skin where a liquid just got on you. If you are in public and you start experiencing these symptoms, first ask yourself, did anything out of the ordinary just happen, a loud pop, did someone spray something on the crowd? Are other people getting sick too? Is there an odor of new mown hay, green corn, something fruity, or camphor where it shouldn't be? If the answer is
Re: [CTRL] The Aliens Amongst Us (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/19/01 8:13:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Note: Personally I believe that the radical elements of Islam, those who are NOT following the dictates of the Koran, are those who proclaim peace. The Islamic Arab who is waging war against us is indeed following the Koran rather than the other way around, and they are in the majority. I also believe that Islam sees this war as the beginning of a new world totally under Islam, as Yousef Salem proclaimed to Joseph Farah in an email to WorldNetDaily The days of light will soon dawn and you will find yourself in the dark along with your ilk. - Tony] Yup, I agree, totally. BHoward A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) LP RELEASE: Anthrax attacks
-Caveat Lector- From: thew [EMAIL PROTECTED] the interesting thing of course is that all this anthrax is being mailed domestically, and no one knows who is doing it. The anthrax letter mailed to Microsoft in Reno, Nevada was mailed from Malaysia Ju A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Rifle and the Veil
-Caveat Lector- In 1990, a fatwa from Afghan leaders in Peshawar decreed that women should not attend schools or become educated, and that if they did, the Islamic movement would meet with failure. It would seem that the extreme Islamic fundamentalists don't want male children educated, either...read the articles about the fundamentalist schools that Islamic boys are being sent to, schools that are thought to be 'breeding grounds for future terrorists', and you read that the only thing the boys are taught are passages from the Koran...probably selective passages, and considering that they are taught these passages in Arabic, which is not their native tongue, it is doubtful that they are taught how to critically read and THINK about the Koran, only to blindly obey the passages they are taught like parrots to repeat, taken out of context These boys aren't being taught grammar and writing skills, they aren't taught math, geography, science... So it would seem that an uneducated populace is the crux of the extreme Islamic fundamentalists' power... I wonder what would happen if Pakistan, while allowing these fundamentalist schools to continue within its borders, also passed a law requiring these children to attend classes in reading, writing, math, and physical and social sciences...how many future fanatical terrorists would be turned out then? Ju A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CTRL CHANGES . . . Please read!!!!!
-Caveat Lector- Howdy One and All, Been giving some thought and have been watching and listening to the list, and am going to try something. After the events of 9/11 CTRL opened up its daily limit of total posts and amount that folks may post. Then on 10/3 AOL had an event with their List Server and the List was down for almost three days. And the archive server at http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ also stopped it archiving. Because of these things I activated a spare list -ctrl- I was running on yahoo. There has always been a bit of a balancing act between discussion and info-exchange posts on the list Here is what I am proposing to do. Make CTRL primarily info-exchange with a small ability for discussion. For people that want more discussion they may use ctrl. It would work as such: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. CTRL will go back to a 100 per day limit - Long-time listees know that I do free the list as soon as I become aware that the list is held because it has hit its daily limit. 2. CTRL will have a 5 per day post limit, except for editors AND there will be quite a few editors so that CTRL can continue to supply many points of view and we may see info and spin, etc. 3. To Post to CTRL one must be a member. 4. CTRL will be archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/ -- The site is back up. Archives are public. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. ctrl will have no daily total post limit 2. ctrl will have no per day post limit. It will also be a place where folks who wish to be editors at CTRL may show their stuff. 3. Anyone may post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. ctrl is archives at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ctrl and are public , so you may read online if you wish. How will this work? Hopefully well and a goal is t o make CTRL more useful in quality not quanity. I and some editors will be sending the same items to both list and I and others will be watching ctrl and fowarding any interesting items to CTRL. Thoughts??? I will be implementing this Saturday 10/20. Om K - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: Carlyle Group
While I don't have the NY Times articles, I do know that in 1999 Carlyle acquired EGG (Edgarton, Germhausen Greer). EGG is so deeply involved with almost every aspect of US Government black projects that you could consider it a tentacle of the Octopus. Their web site: http://www.egginc.com/index.htm The following is a list of recently awarded contracts that EGG is proud to tell the public about: Recent Contract Awards Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) EGG's Science Engineering Division, as a teaming partner with the Raytheon Technical Services Company, was one of five teams selected for award of a Defense Threat Reduction Agency contract to eliminate Weapons of Mass Destruction in the Former Soviet Union. Each of the teams will receive IDIQ contracts valued at $1 Billion for a period of five years beginning on October 1, 2001. EGG will perform chemical demilitarization services as a subcontractor to Raytheon. The estimated value of EGG's effort is anticipated to be $50 Million over the period of performance. National Aeronautics and Space Administration EGG's Installations Logistics Division, as part of The CubeCorp/EGG/Unisys Team, has been awarded the Wallops Institutional Consolidated Contract (WICC) by NASA Goddard Space Flight Center (GSFC). The Team will provide institutional services at GSFC's Wallops Flight Facility located at Wallops Island, VA. This contract is a performance-based, cost-plus-incentive-fee, award-term contract with EGG's effort being over 110 employees with an annual estimated value of $7M. U.S. Air Force Joint Test, Tactics and Training, Las Vegas, NV, has been awarded a $96,779,436 cost-plus-award-fee/term-cost-reimbursable/no-fee contract to provide support of Joint Range Technical Services Program fiscal year 2002 requirements including engineering and technical support services in support of research, development, test and evaluation and the training mission of the Nevada Test and Training Range, the Utah Test and Training Range, the Air Force Flight Test Center at Edwards Air Force Base, CA, and the Navy's Electronic Combat Range at China Lake, CA. This work is expected to be completed September 2002. The Air Logistics Center, Hill Air Force Base, Utah, is the contracting activity (F42650-01-C-7218). [taken from U.S. Department of Defense, DefenseLINK News, No. 269-01, June 15, 2001] U.S. Customs Service EGG Technical Services, Inc. was recently awarded a contract with the U.S. Customs Service, as the Treasury Department's prime contractor responsible for managing and disposing of seized/forfeited real property which includes homes, buildings, commercial properties, and vacant land. The total value of this contract is estimated at $51 million. U.S. Department of Energy EGG's Science Engineering Division has been awarded a contract by Wackenhut Services, Inc. to operate the Emergency Operations Training Academy (EOTA) at the U.S. Department of Energy's Nonproliferation and National Security Institute (NNSI), located at Kirtland Air Force Base, Albuquerque, New Mexico. This contract, commencing in July 2001, has a three-year base period, with two one-year options, and an estimated value of over $6.5 million. U.S. Navy EGG's Defense Systems Services Division has been awarded a Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEASYSCOM) Schedule award to provide Submarine Towed Array and Towed Array Handling System Management, Engineering and Logistic Support Services to PMS 435. This cost-plus- fixed-fee award is for 3.5 years with an expected total value of $7.7 million. The award provides for a continuation of current EGG support being provided under a General Services Administration Schedule contract. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FONT COLOR=#99Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/xYTolB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A -~- Please let us stay on topic and be civil. To unsubscribe please go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs -Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[CTRL] Enduring Diversity
-Caveat Lector- [INLINE] [ Home ] [ Why VDARE? ] [ VDARE People Pages ] [ VDARE Links ] [ Search ] [ Letters ] [ Archive ] [ Email VDARE Writers ] [ Email For Publication ] [ Email Not For Publication ] [ Make Tax-Deductible Credit-Card Contribution ] [ Center For American Unity ] [INLINE] Email a Friend... NOTE: PLEASE say if you DON'T want your name and/or email address published when sending VDARE email. Letter Archive... TODAYS LETTER: An LA Fireman Endures Diversity Training. From: Kevin Rudd Your piece on the abolition of the West was dead on. All this talk about the peaceful religion of Islam, and how it is one of the three great traditions that recognizes the people of the book is sheer fantasy. I think it is just part of the delusion that all people are in almost all ways just like themselves. We hear it constantly about all the cultures that have established themselves in the United States. I'm a firefighter in the city of Los Angeles and was recently required to attend our department's Diversity Training. I'm sure you're well aware of the Orwellian nature of these exercises. There were two specific aims to our particular training. The first was to try to convince us that despite all evidence to the contrary, no one is ever promoted or treated differently on the basis of sex or race. The second was to help us to acknowledge that there are basically two groups in this world: privileged white males, and persecuted women and people of color. My session turned out to be quite revealing. The instructors weren't all that well versed in their subject and seemed to count on the squeamishness that most have in talking about race in a mixed crowd to prevent any opposition. I had heard enough of this garbage before though, and I asked some general questions to demonstrate they were bald-faced liars. The first part of their presentation explained how much more diverse the country, as well as our fire department had become in recent history.[VDARE.COM note: LAFD is under a consent decree to increase minority representation.] They then tried to define diversity. They took great pains in explaining that while many think of diversity in terms of gender and race, this is inaccurate, and that diversity is really all about our uniqueness as individuals i.e. our talents, abilities, and points of view. I asked, excluding race and sex, in what ways has our country or department become more diverse? I also asked, according to your definition, how will the department measure itself with respect to diversity? They told me they would cover that later and couldn't give an answer then (of course they never did). The part that was most infuriating, though, was when they stated, Diversity recognizes no one culture as being intrinsically superior to any other. I asked that in light of the recent attacks on the United States we might be able to proclaim that the Taliban was inferior to another culture? No, was the answer. I restated, you mean you do not believe that your own culture is superior to one that is dedicated to the destruction of your own? No, was the reply along with the question, well, what are you going to do if you meet a Muslim on the street? I replied that I had said nothing of Islam or any individual, only of the culture of the Taliban. I then asked, how about the Nazi culture, you know, the one dedicated to the extermination of the Jews, inferior to our own? Well not all Germans were Nazis, was the reply. I again noted that I had said nothing of Germans only of the Nazi culture. The response was that people are the product of their environment and thus can't be judged. The whole exchange was like beating one's head against the wall. The last part of the training was a personal inventory consisting of 80 questions designed to measure one's conformity to the diversity dogma. All responses were graded from 1-4 and the higher number was the correct answer. Some highlights: you received the minimum points for 1. Not believing that Whites benefit from diversity programs in the workplace. 2. Not believing that Whites have more advantages than any other group in America. 3. Not believing that minorities are never promoted for any reason other than merit. 4.
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: REVLATION$ - Book details now available
It's taken a few days as I have been trying to reach Denis Roberts, the author of the explosive book REVELATION$. He is away and not reachable at present. This important book is only available in a French Language edition so far. I have, therefore, written a summary of the basic core of the book that I have been able to assemble from other European journalists and friends of Denis Roberts. There are many aspects of the story that will be of considerable interest to American readers,I think, and it is my hope to be able to bring a lot more detail about the book forward once i am in direct contact with the authors. Rather coincidentally, I met the two central characters, Gerard Soisson and Ernest Backes in the mid 1970's when I visited Luxembourg for a Wall Street firm I had been headhunted by. Such is life, I guess. Anyway, go to: http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk and read what I have written in the Bulletin just posted on this subject. David Guyatthttp://www.deepblacklies.co.uk THE PROJECT HAMMER FILETHE SECRET GOLD TREATYTHE BILDERBERG FILE Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Please let us stay on topic and be civil. To unsubscribe please go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs -Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[CTRL] Fwd: 70,000 Graduates of Bin Laden University
Gary North's REALITY CHECK Number 84 October 18, 2001 70,000 GRADUATES OF BIN LADEN UNIVERSITY On October 11, Winston Churchill spoke to the National Press Club in Washington. Shirley MacClaine served as his channel. Actually, it was Winston Churchill, the grandson, son of Randolph Churchill and Pamela Beryl Digby Churchill Hayward Harriman. His mother was the lady who, in 1992, introduced Washington Democrats socially to W. J. Clinton of Arkansas. She held one of her famous Party parties for him. For this, late in her maritally astounding career, Clinton appointed her the U.S. Ambassador to France. Churchill gave a rousing speech on the war against terrorism. Midway in the speech, he got to the topic at hand: funding. I find it ominous. It is impossible to guess how long it will take to apprehend bin Laden and his henchmen and to bring them to justice. That it will be done in time, I have no doubt. Meanwhile, the overthrow of the cruel, barbaric Taliban regime which harbors him is clearly the top priority. This is an alien regime, established only in the past five years with funding and arms from the Arab countries, by way of Pakistan, which acted as godfather to the creation of the Taliban. Their rule has been so brutal and so disastrous that an estimated one in four Afghans have fled as refugees to Iran or Pakistan, creating a massive humanitarian crisis in the region. Once the Taliban have been overthrown, a high priority must be to cut off the funding -- not only for the terrorists, but also for the fundamentalist madrassas, the theological schools established in numerous countries around the world where the gospel of Islamic purity and anti-Western hatred is preached. Unbelievable though it may seem, no country has been more responsible for this than Saudi Arabia, the West's principal ally in the Middle East. In order to appease and deflect criticism of their pro-Western leanings and opulent lifestyle, the Saudi ruling family, in an act of consummate folly, has poured vast resources into the establishment of these schools and religious universities in their own countries and overseas. They now find that they are riding a tiger of extreme fundamentalism, entirely of their own creation, which threatens the very foundations of their hold on power. As a result, today almost half the young Saudi males coming onto the jobs market have only religious qualifications, making them not only unemployed, but effectively unemployable. In consequence, barely one in four is able to find a job. The rest make a fertile field of disaffection, from which bin Laden is able to recruit new generations of suicide bombers, hijackers and terrorists. And it is no coincidence that many of last month's hijackers were Saudi citizens. More horrifying yet, if that were possible, if estimates attributed to the CIA are to be believed, in recent years some 70,000 militants have passed through bin Laden's terrorist training camps in Afghanistan, and are currently dispersed across no fewer than 55 countries around the world, including our own. New attacks are inevitable, and some undoubtedly will succeeded before this hydra-headed monster of international terrorism is destroyed. While it will be difficult for the Saudi government to bring its extremist theological schools under control and integrate them as they must within the state education system, if it fails to do so it is inevitable that the Saudi ruling family will sooner or later -- and probably sooner than later -- forfeit its hold on power and be drowned in a tidal wave of fundamentalism. What is the likelihood that the Saudis will shut down these schools? Not high, surely. The Saudis are already distancing themselves from the United States. This article appeared the day after we began bombing Kabul. RIYADH: The US ally Saudi Arabia said on Monday that it was unhappy about the bombing of Afghanistan, sending the clearest signal yet that its relations with Washington are being tested by the war on terrorism. Interior Minister Prince Naif broke Saudi silence on the bombing late on Sunday, telling reporters that the kingdom opposed terrorism but did not approve of the US response. We wish the United States had been able to flush out the terrorists in Afghanistan without resorting to the current action ... because this is killing innocent people, he said. . . . It's unbelievable the way the feeling here has changed from sympathy to anger in such a short
[CTRL] Fwd: Saudi Amb Bandar Badly Fails, Saudi Royals in Paralysis, US Relations in Doubt
___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_ / /\\ Making Sense of the Middle East /_/ /_/ /___/ /_/ \\©http://www.MiddleEast.Org News, Information, Analysis That Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Don't Want You To Know! To receive MER regularly and free - http://www.MiddleEast.Org/subscribe --- To comment on this article or on the article earlier this week What Can We Do About Terrorism? by Lt. Col. Robert Bowman please use the new MER FORUM at -- http://www.MiddleEast.Org/forum --- WASHINGTON SCENE: This is a moral crusade. Oh, I suppose we're not supposed to use that word.. This is a moral campaign... Sir David Frost - on CNN, 10/17 SAUDI AMBASSADOR' BANDAR'S STRATEGY FAILS Abdullah Will Not Really Be King As Long As Bandar Is On His Washington Throne One sign of how things are really going in Arabia will be just how much longer Bandar bin Sultan remains on his own throne in the American capital. For if Bandar is left to work his own will in modern- day Rome then Abdullah will not truly be King. MID-EAST REALITIES © - MER - www.MiddleEast.Org - Washington - 10/19: Prince Bandar bin Sultan's 20+ year strategy has now substantially failed. Years ago, very much behind-the-scenes of course, the very controversial and in some circles much despised Saudi Ambassador in Washington began a relationship with the some of the most conservative and militant circles in Washington, very much including those associated with the powerful Israeli/Jewish lobby. His goal was quite simple -- by ingratiating himself within these circles; by spreading around much money, influence and favors; Bandar felt he could assure that those who run the big corporations and own the major media, along with those who dominate on Capitol Hill, as well as those in the Executive Branch of the U.S. Government, could be counted on to support, and if necessary defend, the Saudi Royal family come what may. It is Bandar who has personally acted as intermediary all these years as the U.S. has spent an estimated $300+ billion dollars to build up military infrastructure and stockpile vast quantities of military hardware in the Kingdom. But all that was before Osama bin Laden and 11 September 2001, before the Royal elders of the Kingdom decided that the just completed U.S.regional military command center at Prince Sultan Airbase could not in fact be used as the Americans at first demanded. And from that disguised confrontation decision a counterflow of news leaks, pressures, and threats have started flowing -- including from many of those long courted and essentially paid by Bandar -- which is seriously undermining al-Saud/Wahabi control over Arabia in this new millenium. Bandar is now the dean of the Washington Ambassador corp -- simply meaning he's been representing Saudi Arabia in Washington longer than any other country's ambassador here. Bandar has spent a great deal of money in the past two decades (multi-billions), hired a great many people, been a primary force in creating a network of influence-peddling centers, some of the client organizations we have spoken about that are creatures of the client regimes -- including the Arab American Institute (AAI - Zogby), ANA, American Muslim Council (ADC - Alamoudi), Washington Report, ADC and the list goes on. As for the Kingdom Bandar so ostentatiously represents, for more than 50 years now Saudi Arabia has served as a kind of oil cow for the U.S.; and for the fast few decades a petrodollar recycling and arms buying megacenter as well. The real need for Saudi Arabia's Royal family has not been just oil supplies which are actually plentifully available in many places, but rather controlling OPEC on behalf of Western countries thus assuring plentiful amounts of very cheap Middle Eastern oil -- as well as a recycling of all those petrodollars into U.S. and Western banks and corporations. Even today one can purchase a gallon of oil that started life in the deserts of Arabia, was transported halfway around the world, then refined, then shipped, then pumped, for about the same price as a gallon of locally bottled water at the neighborhood grocery store -- this while so many in the Middle East region itself remain destitute and impoverished. The United States especially has floated its modern prosperous economy on very cheap very plentiful foreign oil, with the Saudis playing the central role in this whole historic arrangements. But in the process, the al-Saud's have wasted and squandered so many
[CTRL] REVELATION$
-Caveat Lector- from http://www.deepblacklies.co.uk/bulletin.html REVELATION$ A book by Denis Robert Ernest Backes Summary by David Guyatt Inquisitive French journalist and writer Denis Robert teamed up with Ernest Backes, a former senior banking executive, to reveal the money laundering scandal buried deep within one of Europe's top international securities clearing systems, Cedel International which owns a 50% stake with the Deutsche Bourse of Clearstream International. Located in the very heart of Luxembourg City, CEDEL was one of two European based clearing systems used by the worlds banks and securities houses to clear securities transaction. The other, located in the centre of Brussels is Euroclear. Cedel was founded in 1970 by 66 banks and financial institutions from eleven countries. Today, it is owned by 92 banks and institutions from around the world. On the board of Cedel International are bankers from Banco de Bilbao Vizcaya Argentaria, Sanpaolo IMI, the Bank of China, the Industrial Bank of Japan and ING Group. The Chairman of the Board, Robert R. Douglas, is a former secretary to the Rockerfellers, say the authors. What is significant about this French language book, published by Editions Arenas in Paris, is that the co-author, Ernest Backes, was formerly the number three man at Cedel and so is speaking from personal insiders knowledge. Back in the mid 1970's, Backes along with the then number one man at Cedel, Gerard Soisson, were asked to set-up secret accounts by Mafia financier Michele Sindona and Roberto Calvi, the former Chairman of Banco Ambrosiano. Thus began a snowball of secret accounts being established for international banks like the French state-owned Credit Lyonnais, as well as leading central banks. For example the General Division the Foreign Services (DGSE) of the Banque de France had an unpublished account with Cedel. The laundry operation started off slowly but soon began to explode as the good word began to spread. In 1983, there were just two unpublished accounts. Over a decade later this had spiked upwards alarmingly, with around 2,000 secret accounts being operated. Last year, 2000, as many as 8 ,000 unpublished accounts were active. According to the account of insider, Ernest Backes, Cedel was used to launder a payment of $7 million dollars from Chase Manhattan and Citibank to National Bank of Algeria. This Backes says was part of a larger sum (as much as $150 million he believes) transferred as part of the negotiations between Vice President Bush and Iran. Known as October Surprise this was a secret plan for Iran to keep US hostages captive in order to discredit US President, Jimmy Carter, thus clearing the way for the election of President Ronald Reagan. Other scandals that Cedel were a party to included the collapsed Pakistani bank BCCI, that laundered huge sums of Columbian drug money amongst many other highly illegal activities. BCCI's head office, the Bank of Credit and International Trade was in Luxembourg and used Cedel accounts to effect transfers of one hundred million French Francs to an unpublished Cedel account for the Bank General of Luxembourg. This, Backes says, took place, o ne month and a day after the liquidation of BCCI. At that time, Bank General of Luxembourg was managed by Marcel Marthe, a former Economic Minister for :Luxembourg who had a very close and friendly relationship to the royal family of Luxembourg. Another former employee of Cedel, interviewed by Denis Robert, stated that Russian banks controlled by the Russian Mafia also laundered large volumes of funds through Cedel. There is a personal aspect to this story so far as I am concerned. During a whistle-stop tour of Paris, Brussels and Luxembourg in 1976, I met Gerard Soisson along with Ernest Backes, Roland Hoffman and a few others when I spent a day visiting Cedel on behalf of Wall Street investment bank, Blyth Eastman Dillon. This followed my recruitment by them to set-up the operations side of their new London based Eurobond trading arm Blyth Eastman Dillon International Limited. The account I opened with Cedel was a published account, I hasten to add. Some years following the opening of the first two accounts Roberto Calvi was later found hanging beneath London's Blackfriars Bridge (1982). Sindona died following a sip of cyanide laced coffee in his prison cell in Milan. He was pronounced dead on 22 March 1986. Gerard Soisson's fate was sealed in Corsica in 1983, where he died under mysterious circumstances, according to the authors. Ever since I began investigating the shadowy world of Collateral Trading Programmes (see the on-site downloadable dossier The Project Hammer File), I have often heard mention of Cedel (and, in fact, Euroclear). I have not, thus far, been able to verify that these clearing systems are used to settle collateral trades but common sense
[CTRL] Fwd: Who is Unocal, and what are its true motives and links to Bush?
American Patriot Friends Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:37 AM Subject: U.S. INTERESTS IN THE CENTRAL ASIAN REPUBLICS Two major infrastructure projects are seeking to meet the need for additional export capacity. One, under the aegis of the Caspian Pipeline Consortium, plans to build a pipeline west from the northern Caspian to the Russian Black Sea port of Novorossiysk. Oil would then go by tanker through the Bosporus to the Mediterranean and world markets. http://www.cpc-ltd.com/ Click on public information in frames. Then click on Project Description, then CPC Ownership Structure. (Attachment CPC Owners.pdf) Click on Pipeline Route. (Attachment CPC route.pdf) The political map can be viewed under Public Information--Pipeline Route. This shows the pipeline to be built will connect two ports across Russia, one on the Caspian Sea and one on the Black Sea. Afghanistan does not appear on this map. Access is denied on all topics other than public information. The other project is sponsored by the Azerbaijan International Operating Company, a consortium of 11 foreign oil companies, including four American companies, Unocal, Amoco, Exxon and Pennzoil. This consortium conceives of two possible routes, one line would angle north and cross the north Caucasus to Novorossiysk. The other route would cross Georgia to a shipping terminal on the Black Sea. This second route could be extended west and south across Turkey to the Mediterranean port of Ceyhan. http://www.azer.com/aiweb/categories/magazine/62_folder/62_articles/62_socar _aioc.html [This shows ownership pie map. BP owns 34%, Unocal 10.3%, Lukoil 10%, Exxon 8%, Pennzoil 5.6%, Socar 10%, Statoil 8.6%, with other companies at less than 7%.] http://www.azer.com/aiweb/categories/topics/Oil/oilcontracts_map.html [Shows a map of each consortium member's drilling contracts in Azerbaijan and offshore in the Caspian Sea.] The main part of the Early Oil Project has been concluded which included the refurbishment of the Chirag-1 platform, the construction of a new onshore terminal at Sangachal and a 230 km subsea pipeline system, and the rehabilitation of two existing export pipelines to transport Early Oil to the Black Sea north through Russia to Novorossiysk and west through Georgia to Supsa. The Russian route has been operational since last year and the first tanker lifted 80,000 tons of AIOC-produced oil on March 24, 1998. AIOC plans to lift 2-3 tankers per month for the remaining months of 1998 to total 1.5 million tons this year. Meanwhile, the second Early Oil Export Pipeline (via Georgia) is still under refurbishment, and work continues on selecting the ultimate Main Export Pipeline. ... Newly Independent States of the former Soviet Union are all slow growth markets where demand will grow at only a half a percent to perhaps 1 .2 percent per year during the period 1995 to 2010. Asia is a different story all together. It will have a rapidly increasing energy consumption need. Prior to the recent turbulence in the Asian Pacific economies, we at Unocal anticipated that this region's demand for oil would almost do uble by 2010. Although the short-term increase in demand will probably not meet these expectations, we stand behind our long-term estimatesIf Asia's energy needs are not satisfied, they will simply put pressure on all world markets, driving prices upwards everywhere. [There are two options.] The second option is to build a pipeline south from Central Asia to the Indian Ocean. One obvious route south would cross Iran, but this is foreclosed for American companies because of U.S. sanctions legislation. The only other possi- ble route is across Afghanistan , which has of course its own unique challenges. The country has been involved in bitter warfare for almost two decades, and is still divided by civil war. From the outset, we have made it clear that construction of the pipeline we have proposed across Afghanistan could not begin until a recognized government is in place that has the confidence of governments, lenders, and our company Unocal foresees a pipeline which would become part of a regional system that will gather oil from existing pipeline infrastructure in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Russia. The 1,040-mile long oil pipeline would extend south through Afghanistan to an export terminal that would be constructed on the Pakistan coast. This 42-inch diameter pipeline will have a shipping capacity of one million barrels of oil per day. The estimated cost of the project, which is similar in scope to the trans-Alaska pipeline, is about $2.5 billion. ... Unocal and theTurkish company Koc Holding are interested in bringing competitive gas supplies to Turkey. The proposed Eurasia natural gas pipeline would transport
[CTRL] Fwd: U.S. INTERESTS IN THE CENTRAL ASIAN REPUBLICS
U.S. INTERESTS IN THE CENTRAL ASIAN REPUBLICS - FEBRUARY 12, 1998 COMMITTEE ON INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS - U.S. HOUSE http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495article=10389 [SNIP] Mr. BEREUTER. Mr. Rohrabacher, I certainly do agree with you with respect to the contributions and plight of the Afghan people, and also the importance of what we have to do with respect to the Central Asian republics. I hope that the hearing today helps contribute to what you and I will have to pursue with our colleagues. [SNIP] GO HERE FOR THE FULL STORY: http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/intlrel/hfa48119.000/hfa48119_0f.htm THIS TELLS IT ALL, NOW WHAT? Donna K wrote: Excuse me Sir, but your slip is showing .. Article written by Mr. E. Avatar a freelance reporter. October 12, 2001 On October 12, 2001 Friday evening, nightly broadcast of the KPBS news program called: The Jim Lehrers News Hour Vice President Dick Cheney gave a fairly long sit down interview to Jim Lehrer, in the office of the Vice President. A significant part of the interview focused on the fact that Mr. Cheney has been at an undisclosed, secured facility and has not appeared in public together with the President for several days, if not for weeks. In fact he was absent for sometimes from the news. The nation who looked for the experience and management skills of Mr. Cheney to support a somewhat inexperienced President in foreign policy issues was getting anxious to see Mr. Cheney absent in these days of tension filed hours. Mr. Cheney explained that due to security considerations they have agreed to be at different locations and never travel together since the Presidential campaign was over, but never the less they are constantly in touch via secured high quality, video conferencing numerous times daily. During the interview Jim Lehrer commented to the Vice President about the fact, that only a few hours after the 11th of September attack was launched against the World Trade Center and targeting the Pentagon, a number of Government Officials who were contacted from the news station were already saying: Yes we know exactly who is responsible, we know who is behind these terrorist attacks. We are certain that its Osama Bin Laden and his international terrorist network thats resp onsib le for these attacks. Lehrers question to the Vice President was coined Well, Mr. Vice President if we knew that Osama Bin Laden have posed such threat to us that mere hours after the attack everybody knew who was responsible, how come we didnt do anythin g about preventing it from happening, or trying to stop him from carrying out these attacks against us? Cheney response was: Well if you recall, right after the US Embassy bombings the Clinton administration made an attempt to launch a missile attack on Bin Ladens terrorist training camp inside Afghanistan, but failed to get Bin Laden . Here Lehrer did not pursue the subject but simply continued the interview to focus on how the administration functioned and how the Vice President remains involved while living in an undisclosed location. And how come that each Governme nt Agency is intensifying the fear, wile issuing assurances, but meanwhile supplying the foreign Embassies with antibiotics and the US Congress with gas masks. Later, during the same interview Jim Lehrer asked the Vice President to explain how the actual decision making process worked within the administration and how the President would be directly involved in the decision making process and in the daily supervision of a military actions. The Vice President, Mr. Cheney assured Jim Lehrer that the President was intimately involved with issuing orders and signing off on the different phases of the military response launched against the Taliban and Afghanistan. Almost immediately at the very beginning, starting from the 12th of September certain preparations and orders of deployments were authorized personally by the President, to start mobilizing the forces and start deployment into position around Afghanistan. Cheney went on explaining. It takes times to move forces and military assets into position half a world away. A military deployment also requires the support of a coordinated diplomatic effort, and that takes time. It is up to the President to instruct his cabinet and to dispatch Colin Powell and Rumsfeld to visit certain regions, world leaders and have a coordinated diplomatic effort undertaken along with the military ones. Jim Lehrer in my opinion has missed two of the most obvious questions thats still awaiting answers. How could everybody in the administration know that it was Osama Bin Laden who was responsible, only minutes or even hours after the attack? The second very
[CTRL] Date with Destiny?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://citypaper.net/articles/101801/sl.howcol.shtml Click Here: A HREF=http://citypaper.net/articles/101801/sl.howcol.shtml; Date with Destiny?/A - October 1825, 2001 pretzel logic Date with Destiny? by Howard Altman It is a matter of public record that the bin Laden family has vociferously disavowed their wayward 17th child. And who could blame them? No mere wanton wastrel, the worlds most wanted man has brought great shame upon this wealthy family. Even worse than shame, though, Osamas actions have endangered the clans coffers. So it is not surprising that the bin Ladens have cut ties to the evildoer, as George Dubya likes to refer to him. Or did they? A web domain registered to the Saudi Binladin Group (the megabucks corporation uses the alternate spelling of the family name) raises questions about what role, if any, the family has played in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The domain was registered on Sept. 11, 2000, with a preset expiration date of Sept. 11, 2001, according to a technician with VeriSign, an Internet domain registry service formerly known as Network Solutions. Coincidence? Or was this website set up to start the countdown on the most devastating attack in U.S. history? Like a lot of information that has been pouring in to me since shortly before 9 a.m. Sept. 11, the tidbit about www.saudi-binladin-group.com was amazingly tantalizing. Unlike a lot of the tidbits, however, this morsel, delivered last week by an anonymous source I will refer to as Deep Spore, has a paper trail attached to it. The paper trail began with a web search of the Binladin Group that revealed the aforementioned website. A check of that site showed that it no longer existed. A quick whois check on VeriSigns website which lists who set up a particular site and when showed that, unlike Binladin-related sites that were taken down right after the attacks on New York and Washington, saudi-binladin-group.com expired on the day of the attacks. This was no accident, according to a VeriSign technician in Mountainview, Calif. This was timed so it would expire on that date, says the technician, who identified herself only by her first name, Antonette, and by her employee number, 001. Antonette also verified that the information listed in the whois search was accurate and not tampered with by an outside party. Antonette added that VeriSign had already been contacted by law enforcement about other attack-related domain names the company had registered. I had a call from the L.A. police, she said. He was also asking about a domain name that expired on Sept. 11. I cant remember the name of it, but it had something to do with the WTC. The Binladin website was created by a company called Arq Limited, a U.K. web design firm. The administrative, technical and billing contact listed on the whois search is a man named Philip Lumsden. After several calls to the U.K., I learned that Arq Limited went out of business, replaced by a company called Active 8 Solutions, which shares the same Bath, England, mailing address and a telephone number that is only one digit off from Arq Limiteds old number. I learned one more interesting thing. Mr. Lumsden left a week ago, said a man who answered the phone at Active 8 Solutions. I am not aware of why he left. The man, who would not give his name, added that he had no clue about the saudi-binladin-group.com website. A half-dozen odd calls Tuesday, October 15, to the Saudi Binladin Groups headquarters in Jedda, Saudi Arabia, turned up little other than assurances that if I called back in 20 minutes or a half-hour, then somebody would be able to give me some information about the website. Each time I called, I explained that I wanted to ask somebody at the company why the website expired on Sept. 11, 2001, a rather significant date in world history. Each time I was told to call back until, finally, I spoke with someone who could answer my questions. But not for long. You can check with VeriSign, said a man who did not identify himself. VeriSign has all the details. The man then asked me to hold on because he had to take another call. Then I was disconnected. I called back, only to be disconnected again. When I called back a third time, another man answering the phone asked if I could send an e-mail listing my questions. It is already after 6 p.m. here, said the man. Nobody is in anymore. The next day, I called again and again was told to call back later. By deadline, neither of the two emails I sent seeking comment were answered. If the attackers did use this website, the FBI, which is tracking down thousands and thousands of leads, may be interested. I am not aware of [the website], and I do not know whether the FBI is aware of it, but I cant speak for the entire FBI, said Joe Valiquette, spokesman for the FBIs New York office. Generally speaking, we would be interested in something like that. © Copyright 19952001 CP
[CTRL] Illogic of India's wish for non-involvement of third party in Kashmir settlement (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Assalamu'alaikum, World Kashmir Freedom Movement, Kashmir Centre, Brownlow Road, London W13 0SQ. Phone:0044(020)8840 7999; Kashmiri Scandinavian Council (KSC) Grensevien-61-0663 Oslo Tel:+47 90091376 www.kashmir.no 19 October, 2001 Illogic of India's wish for non-involvement of third party in Kashmir settlement From the day one of the Kashmir conflict more than half a century ago, Delhi's stand not to entertain third -party involvement in settling the conflict is as illogical as it is unmistakable. The absurdity of Delhi's view in not wanting third party participation has been the principle cause of the trauma of the Kashmiri people. India took the Kashmir conflict to the United Nations Security Council with a complaint against Pakistan of intrusion into Kashmir. Indian expectations were dashed when the Security Council questioned India's legitimacy over Kashmir and turned down its manipulated accession. And the Security Council directed that the will of the Kashmiri people is paramount and must be determined in a free and fair plebiscite under UN auspices. Since the resolutions of the Security Council of 13 August 1948 and 5 January 1949, Indian leaders have stuck to their illogical stand and have not allowed Kashmir decide their political future, though they did not make their views public till 1954 when Pakistan became a member of western alliance. Soon after 1954, Delhi started harping loudly about its unwillingness to allow any third-party involvement in settling the Kashmir conflict. The reason was obvious. Allowing such a participation - which would be none other than an outside government fully conversant with the causes of the conflict and UN's involvement with it and its resolutions, would reiterate the universal principle of letting the Kashmiris decide their political future. To let Kashmiris freely decide their political future has been an abomination with Delhi hence its unwillingness about the idea of third-party involvement. Delhi also fears that in the presence of a third party, it would be confronted with its very weak case on Kashmir, and that it would be required to accord serious consideration to the settlement of the conflict without wasting time on subjects having little or no bearing on the crux of the problem. To counter the argument why Delhi is against allowing Kashmiris freely decide their future, a lame excuse has often been put up by Delhi that Kashmiris have already decided to be part of India. That decision was taken by a tame assembly. In fact all elections in Indian occupied Kashmir since Delhi's take-over of Kashmir has been rigged at Delhi's behest. And soon after the that decision, the UN Security Council warned India it would not recognise the faked decision of the Kashmir state assembly and that only a free and fair process of self-determination of the Kashmiri people under independent auspices would be acceptable as envisaged in Security Council resolutions. Now in the wake of the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington and the US- led coalition war on Afghanistan, Delhi has been shouting about its own fight against so-called terrorism in occupied Kashmir and has been desperate in bringing US and UK attention to it. However, its assumed fears are getting cold response from world's major capitals. Delhi has now resorted to military attacks on positions across the cease-fire line in Kashmir, hoping its action would be duly noted as Delhi's concern over the Kashmir situation. But again Delhi failed to provoke the coalition partners raising noises in favour of India. One hopes that Delhi realises that in wanting the world to respond appropriately against what it terms 'Pakistan sponsored terrorism' in occupied Kashmir, it is, indeed, inviting a third-party involvement in occupied Kashmir. Under the circumstances, Delhi should also understand that it cannot impede real progress towards the settlement of the conflict, and would bury half a century of its illogic associated with third-party involvement in Kashmir. ININ List Archives Found Here: http://www.egroups.com/messages/inin TO SUBSCRIBE: To subscribe please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body type: subscribe inin-net TO UNSUBSCRIBE: To unsubscribe please e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body type in: unsubscribe inin-net ISLAMIC NEWS AND INFORMATION NETWORK: HTTP://WWW.ININ.NET VISIT: HTTP://WWW.MEDIAMONITORS.NET WE AFFIRM THAT INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the
[CTRL] Gulag Britannia
-Caveat Lector- From www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : Britain Britain: Labour government plans to introduce internment By Richard Tyler 19 October 2001 Back to screen version| Send this link by email | Email the author Last October, the Labour government incorporated the European Convention on Human Rights into British law. Its passage was supposed to enshrine certain fundamental civil liberties in Britains statue books. Just one year later, Home Secretary David Blunkett has told parliament he would be seeking the derogation of the Conventions Article 5 outlawing arbitrary detention and imprisonment. This would effectively enable the British authorities to introduce internmentdetention without trial for foreign nationals who are considered a threat to national security. The Home Secretary said that the emergency anti-terrorist legislation was needed for specific and targeted measures. However, the new laws will be cast so broadly that they could be used not just against alleged terrorists but anyone engaged in acts of civil disobedience or protest. Labour is seeking to rush through legislation for the war against terrorism with a minimum of debate or scrutiny. Speaking in the Commons on Monday, Blunkett announced a swathe of new measures that overturn basic democratic and legal norms. This includes an Emergency Anti-Terrorist Bill and Extradition Bill, expected to be presented to parliament over the next days, as well as a series of non-legislative regulations stepping up state powers. Significantly, the Anti-Terrorist Bill will include an enabling power, allowing measures to be implemented by affirmative order, i.e. without extensive parliamentary scrutiny. Blunketts speech was a concoction of hypocrisy and barely concealed threats. None of those measures is intended to stifle free speech, dialogue, or debate, the Home Secretary claimed, but There is a compelling need for more effective powers to exclude and remove suspected terrorists from our country. In the name of defending democracy and safeguarding freedoms, the Labour government proposes to turn back the clock to a time when mere suspicion of committing a crime, or an accusation from those in authority, was sufficient to justify incarceration. Detention could be based on membership of the 21 organisations outlawed in the Terrorism Act 2000, which includes the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam and the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), as well as a host of Islamic groups such as Hamas. The Labour government is using the September 11 events to introduce far harsher asylum and immigration provisions. Under the emergency legislation, claims for asylum from those suspected of terrorist associations can be rejected without any recourse to appeal or judicial review. The state, and its various agencies will become judge, jury and executioner for those seeking to claim asylum. Once a refugee is labelled a terrorist they can be locked up without the need for a court appearance, or be deported without any recourse to legal redress. Blunkett also announced that he would be undertaking a review of Britains extradition procedures, with a view to enabling a suspects rapid expulsion to a third state. This forms part of moves initiated at European Union level to scrap existing national extradition laws and replace them with an EU arrest warrant that would be recognised in all 15 member states. It has been mooted that such warrants might also be extended to enable the authorities in one EU state to order a search or seizure of goods in another. Other non-legislative measures include forcing communication service providers, such as telecoms firms and Internet Service Providers, to retain data from their customers for up to twelve months, which the police and secret services can then trawl though to extract information. This would include all emails sent or received over an ISPs network, logs recording an individuals visits to websites, as well as details of phone and fax calls. Stressing the need for good intelligence, Blunkett said police would be given access to passenger lists and freight manifests, with customs and revenue departments also being able to share data with the police and other agencies. In addition to strengthening airport security, wider powers would be granted to British Transport Police, as well as Ministry of Defence and Atomic Energy Authority police, enabling them to operate outside their normal jurisdictions. One insidious proposal is the introduction of a new offence of incitement to religious hatred, punishable by up to seven years imprisonment. This has been justified by claims it will be used against those expressing anti-Muslim sentiments. While it is far more likely to be turned against more militant Islamic groups, it also has the potential to stifle any public criticism of religion. Given the seriousness of the planned legislation, the response from the liberal media and human rights groups
[CTRL] ME Illegals From the South
-Caveat Lector- From WND }}}Begin This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24987 Friday, October 19, 2001 COMING TO AMERICA 'Arab terrorists' crossing border Middle Eastern illegals find easy entrance into U.S. from Mexico By J. Zane Walley © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com COCHISE COUNTY, Ariz. -- The U.S.-Mexican border here is the most heavily used corridor for illegal alien traffic on America's southern boundary. With its difficult topography that is folded, creased and convoluted, it is a land that yields well to smuggling. The Huachuca, Chiricahua, Dragoon and Whetstone Mountains are riddled with hundreds of deep canyons, caves and arroyos that offer superb concealment for the hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens that annually cross here. The numbers of unauthorized immigrants smuggled across this porous border dumbfound the imagination. To date, the U.S. Border Patrol has apprehended 158,782 illegals in 2001. By the Border Patrol's own admission, it catches one alien in five, and admits that around 800,000 have slipped across the U.S. line this year. The local ranchers, who have been watching the border for several generations, strongly disagree. They contend the agency only nets one in 10, and estimate that in 2001 over 1.5 million unlawful immigrants have crossed into America in what the Border Patrol calls the Tucson Sector. Many border ranch-owners are validly apprehensive of speaking about their desperate situations because of likely retribution by narco-militarists (drug runners) and coyotes (smugglers of humans). Unsolved murders and arso ns are alarmingly ordinary in Cochise County, so pure fear keeps locals from speaking on the record. Line of illegals moving across a ranch on the Cochise County, Ariz.-Mexican border. Photo by Donald Barnett, Bisbee, Ariz. The foot traffic is so heavy that the backcountry has the ambience of a garbage dump and smells like an outdoor privy. In places, the land is littered a foot deep with bottles, cans, soiled disposable diapers, sanitary n apkins, panties, clothes, backpacks, human feces, used toilet paper, pharmacy bottles and syringes (the drug runners inject stimulants to keep their energy up). U.S. Border Patrol agents are doing the best they can, considering their sparse numbers and the impossible terrain they patrol in four-wheel-drive vehicles, quad-runners and on foot. Agents of the Border Patrol have thei r other fears besides being ambushed by rock-chucking illegals and confrontations with assault-rifle-armed narcos: They are not allowed to speak about what they cope with each day. As one agent who spoke anonymously said, Look, I can tell you a lot of stories, but I have to remain unnamed or I will be blackballed and might lose my job. Then, worriedly, he added, I have a family depending on me. Another agent, of supervisory rank, stated, The smuggling traffic of Mexicans has really slowed. We are experiencing a tremendous increase in OTMs border lingo for other than Mexicans. When queried about the ethni c make up of the OTMs, he answered, Central and South Americans, Orientals and Middle-Easterners. Middle-Easterners? Yeah, it varies, but about one in every 10 that we catch, is from a country like Yemen or Egypt. Border Patrol spokesperson Rene Noriega stated that the number of other-than-Mexican detentions has grown by 42 percent. Most of the non-Mexican migrants are from El Salvador and other parts of Central America, she said, but added that agents have picked up people from all over the world, including the former Soviet Union, Asia and the Middle East. Pick-up truck load of mixed-nationality illegals destined for Tucson or Phoenix, Ariz. Once in those cities, an organized pipeline disburses them across America. The trucking is generally handled by street gangs. Photo by Donald Barnett, Bisbee, Ariz. Arabs have been reported crossing the Arizona border for an unknown period. Border rancher George Morgan encounters thousands of illegals crossing his ranch on a well-used trail. He relates a holiday event: It was Than ksgiving 1998, and I stepped outside my house and there were over a hundred 'crossers' in my yard. Damnedest bunch of illegals I ever saw. All of them were wearing black pants, white shirts and string ties. Maybe they w ere hoping to blend in, he chuckled. They took off, I called the Border Patrol, and a while later, an agent, Dan Green, let me know that they had caught them. He said that they were all Iranians. According to Border Patrol spokesperson Rob Daniels, Ten Egyptians were arrested recently near Douglas, Arizona. Each had paid $7,000 to be brought from Guatemala into Mexico and then across the border. According to the San Diego Union-Tribune, hours after the 9-11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, an anonymous
[CTRL] [Spy News] FW: Who Terrorizes Whom? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 04:21:54 +0200 From: Mario Profaca [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [Spy News] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Spy News] FW: Who Terrorizes Whom? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Michael Albert Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ZNet Update - News and Herman Peterson Essay... WHO TERRORIZES WHOM? October 18 By Edward S. Herman and David Peterson One of the marks of exceptional hegemonic power is the ability to define words and get issues framed in accord with your own political agenda. This is notorious at this moment in history as regards terrorism and antiterrorism. Since the September 11 attacks, two truths have been indisputable and universally reported. One is that the hijacker bombings of the World Trade Center and Pentagon were atrocities of a monumental and spectacular scale (and media coverage of that day's events alone may have generated more words and graphic images than any other single event in recent history). A second truth is that the bombings were willful acts of terrorism, accepting the basic and widely agreed-upon definition of terrorism as the use of force or the threat of force against civilian populations to achieve political objectives. And let us also recognize that sponsorship of terrorism means organizing, and/or underwriting and providing a safe harbor to state or nonstate agents who terrorize. But there is a third indisputable truth, although much less understood, let alone universally reported: namely, that from the 1950s the United States itself has been heavily engaged in terrorism, and has sponsored, underwritten, and protected other terrorist states and individual terrorists. In fact, as the greatest and now sole superpower, the United States has also been the world's greatest terrorist and sponsor of terror. Right now this country is supporting a genocidal terrorist operation against Iraq via sanctions of mass destruction and regular bombing attacks to achieve its political objectives; it is underwriting the army and paramilitary forces in Colombia, who openly terrorize the civilian population; and it continues to give virtually unconditional support to an Israeli state that has been using force to achieve its political objectives for decades. The United States has terrorized or sponsored terror in Nicaragua, Brazil, Uruguay, Cuba, Guatemala, Indonesia/East Timor, Zaire, Angola, South Africa, and elsewhere. And it stands alone in both using and brandishing the threat to use nuclear weapons. It has for many years provided a safe harbor to the Cuban refugee terror network, and it has done the same for a whole string of terrorists in flight from, among other places, El Salvador, Haiti, Vietnam, and even Nazi Germany (see Christopher Simpson's Blowback). Even in its response to the September 11 terrorist events the United States resorted instantly to its own terrorism. Ignoring legal niceties-- despite its supposed devotion to the rule of law- -the United States immediately began to threaten to take out states harboring terrorists, threatened the Afghans with bombing--itself an act of terrorism--and by such threats succeeded in blocking the flow of food supplies to a starving population, which is yet another act of terrorism, and a major one. (A spokesman for Oxfam International stationed in Islamabad recently stated that Prior to this crisis, the World Food Program, with the help of Oxfam and other groups, was feeding 3.7 million [Afghan] people. But with the onset of the bombing campaign, this has stopped as the aid workers have been force to withdraw. The airdrops will--at their very best--feed 130,000 people, or only 3.5 percent of those facing winter and starvation). On October 7 the United States then began to bomb this impoverished country--not just a further act of terrorism, but the crime of aggression. All serious observers recognize that the U.S. actions against Afghanistan have and will cause many, many more deaths than the 6,000 killed in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. But U.S. power and self-righteousness, broadcast and justified to the whole world by a subservient media machine, assure that what the United States does will neither be called terrorism, nor aggression, nor elicit indignation remotely comparable to that expressed over the events of September 11--however well its actions fit the definitions. The same bias extends to other Western countries, diminishing in scope and intensity from Britain to the others, and weakening further in the Third World. In the Middle East, for most of the population the bias disappears and U.S. terrorism is called by its right name, although the U.S.-dependent governments toe their master's line, if nervously. In these more remote areas the press speaks a different language, calling the United States a rogue state par
[CTRL] How Many American Elite ... ?
-Caveat Lector- NewsMax.com How Many American Elite Does It Take to Screw In a Lightbulb? Diane Alden Oct. 18, 2001 Even while courage and American can-do are being exhibited and celebrated hither and yon among the common folk, America's evil, banal and stupid other self is still running true to form. In Washington, the bureaucrats, academe, politicos, celebrities, the media, and ninnies of various kinds -- our elite -- are once more showing us that America's brightest and best have a very difficult time learning life's lessons. We don't know our friends from our enemies. We marginalize Israel and turn a blind eye to a despotic ruling family in Saudi Arabia, which gives or launders money to the Taliban. When the royal house of Saudi crumbles, so will our interests there. The result will be a nearly catastrophic situation in which it will be war over oil as we fight the warriors of Islam here and abroad. It is no small deal that bin Laden and his minions are serious about American presence near the holy places of Mecca and Medina being one of the root causes of their hatred for the U.S. Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh tells us in a recent article in The New Yorker: The American intelligence officials have been particularly angered by the refusal of the Saudis to help the F.B.I. and the C .I.A. run 'traces' -- that is, name checks and other background information -- on the nineteen men, more than half of them believed to be from Saudi Arabia, who took part in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. They knew that once we started asking for a few traces the list would grow, one former official said. It's better to shut it down right away. Hersh points out that thousands of disaffected Saudis have joined fundamentalist groups throughout the Middle East. Other officials said that there is a growing worry inside the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. that the actual identities of many of those involved in the attacks may not be known definitively for months, if ever. Last week, a senior intelligence official confirmed the lack of Saudi cooperation and told me, angrily, that the Saudis 'have only one constant -- and it's keeping themselves in power.' Meanwhile, investigative journalist Paul Sperry reports that it's business as usual at America's small private airports. Flying is again allowed in and around our major cities. What is really truly weird is that as soon as the ban against flying out of private airports was lifted, 14 Syrians were allowed into the United States to take flying lessons. Syria, by the way, is listed as one of those nations that harbors terrorists. But we are giving their sons flying lessons. Why is that? Is it merely to make a buck? Or are we being a sympathetic ally in some phantom coalition we wish we had with Syria. Or is it because we are incompetent boobs who keep doing dumb things because no one is talking to anyone else and no one is really in charge? We are telling everyone we are a free nation for foreign residents, but on the other hand we seek to inflict heavy penalties on our legal citizens. We do that through hundreds of gun control laws even as we keep the door ajar for the odd terrorist who might slip in. So you thought now that we have Homeland Defense czar Tom Ridge we have nothing more to worry about? Try this on for size. According to the Washington Times, Floyd Horn, administrator of the Agriculture Research Service, warned the food industry and farmers to watch for unusual plant and animal diseases because terrorists might resort to biological weapons that can infect and destroy them. There are diseases that can wipe out our herds and crops, he said. How might those be spread? Could a number of pilots from Middle Eastern countries trained and HERE in the U.S. be the corn crop bombers, the dust off in the Central Valley, the wheat rot in Kansas, the cow deaths in Colorado? The government asks us to remain calm and go about our daily lives as usual. How can we do that when that same government can't do commonsense preventive measures -- like not allowing Middle Eastern men from countries that are acknowledged homes to terrorists to take flying lessons in the U.S.? One would think that the brain trust in D.C. would order a little more vigilance at the gates of the U.S., considering we are in a sorta kinda war? Think again. For every detainee that John Ashcroft talks about putting in federal detention, we are letting twice and three times that many into the U.S. right at this very moment. Did you know that since Sept. 11 there has been no change in our visa program and that the same laws still apply? Did you know that last year around 80,000 people came into the U.S. from Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Algeria, Libya and even Afghanistan? Did you know that up to 250,000 a year can get into and out of the United States from the Middle East? As Martin Gross states in his Washington Times piece, The most generous visa is granted to citizens of
[CTRL] The Cursed at Amherst
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Anyone who touches an American Flag and obviously disgraces it
needs to find another place to live. What it represents is not
perfect but there are a whole bunch of people who make the journey to
American shores each an every day because, although not perfect, it
comes a whole lot closer to perfection than where they came from.
I don't get really upset about the Flag burners because burning the
Flag is actually the proper way to dispose of it when it is soiled,
and those who engage in such activities are - ironically - doing the
correct thing.
Now we get these spoiled brats at Amherst College who have taken upon
themselves to trample on it and chanting various things. These are
the first that should be grouped and inducted into the Cannon Fodder
Corps and sent somewhere, where they can see what some other parts of
the world looks like. A thousand to one, none of them have had any
credible experience outside of the United States and been able to see
at ground level (away from the tourist busses) how different things
are for their counterparts in many if not most other countries.
Having grown up on foreign shores, and having spent many years
overseas as an adult, the first thing I wanted to see in case of
trouble in that Flag. This is the lesson these exponentiated naives
have never had to learn, having been able to take for granted that
all the things OTHER people fought and died for are theirs gratis.
Bring back the draft. Anyone can peel a potato or rake a lawn.
AER
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Campus protesters ignite U.S. flags
Friday, October 19, 2001
By PATRICK JOHNSON
AMHERST Amherst College students were stunned moments after a
pro-America rally involving more than 100 people ended yesterday when
several protesters emerged from the crowd to set fire to a U.S. flag.
As the sounds of God Bless America continued through the public
address system in front of the Keefe Campus Center, as many as 10
demonstrators doused two flags with lighter fluid and set them on
fire.
Five members of the group then spread a larger flag on the ground and
stood on it while chanting This flag doesn't represent me; this flag
doesn't represent us.
The crowd of more than 100 people, mostly Amherst College students
who moments before rallied around the flag, stood in stunned silence
as the same flag was desecrated.
This is really upsetting to me, said Christopher Palacios, a
sophomore from Miami.
Palacios, who said his parents fled Cuba in the 1960s to escape Fidel
Castro, said, It makes me sick when American kids say the American
flag scares them.
The pro-America rally yesterday was organized by a new student group
called Amherst Assembly for Patriotism.
The group formed in response to peace rallies at each of the Five
Colleges in recent weeks as well as the controversial decision by the
town of Amherst to limit flag displays downtown.
Amherst is 25 square miles surrounded by reality, said Theodore Hertzberg, a
sophomore from Long Island. I'm relieved the rest of the country does not feel the
same way.
The crowd had just finished a group recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance and was
beginning to disperse when as many as 10 protesters came forward.
Most of those protesting the flag declined to be interviewed.
One who did, 19-year-old Dan Griffin of Minneapolis, Minn., said the protest sought to
show that the United States is responsible for much of the pain and suffering in the
world.
The United States has helped continue a spree of genocide that dates back to Columbus
in 1492, he said.
How people take it is how they take it, he said.
Griffin identified himself as a student but declined to say at which college. He said
the others are from different area colleges but would not say which.
Hampshire College officials confirmed a student named Dan Griffin is registered.
The University of Massachusetts records show a Daniel Griffin was enrolled but he
withdrew at the start of the semester.
Michael Flood, co-founder of the Amherst Assembly for Patriotism,
said he found the actions of the protesters to be inappropriate,
especially since he suspects none of them are from Amherst College.
I believe they have a right to burn the flag, but this is
inappropriate, he said.
Sophomore Nick Echelbarger from Seattle said the burning was free
speech of the lowest form.
It doesn't make a point. It's just poor taste, he said.
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-Caveat Lector- Subj:SOMETIMES A STRANGE NOTION -- AND A PARTISAN ONE AT THAT Date: 10/18/01 12:42:46 PM Central Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BuzzFlash.com) http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/18/business/18TRAD.html BUSH PROPOSES A PECULIAR NOTION: WE WILL DEFEAT TERRORISM BY GIVING HIM FAST-TRACK TRADE AUTHORITY. POLITICS AS USUAL AMIDST A NATIONAL CRISIS. From the NEW YORK TIMES: October 18, 2001 Bush Links Terror Attacks to Trade Bill By THE NEW YORK TIMES RAVIS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif., Oct. 17 â President Bush used the terrorist attacks today to press for a quick vote on new authority to negotiate trade agreements without allowing amendment by the Senate. The terrorists attacked the World Trade Center, and we will defeat them by expanding and encouraging world trade, Mr. Bush said, seeming to imply that trade was among the concerns of terrorists who brought down the towers. In order to help me expand world trade, I've asked the Congress to give me what's called trade promotion authority â the ability to seek America's interests around the world. Opponents of the bill, which would limit Congress to approving or denying accords, say Mr. Bush is trying to force it through by wrapping it in the attacks, even though the connection is tangential at best. The strategy came from Robert B. Zoellick, the United States trade representative, who began making the argument soon after Sept. 11. Copyright 2001 The New York Times Company RECEIVE TALIBAN: Militant Islam, Oil Fundamentalism in Central Asia With a $30 Voluntary Subscription to BuzzFlash.com (Not Tax-Deductible) Yale University Press. http://www.buzzflashcom.bigstep.com/item.html?PRID=1065697 __ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Washington Plots, Moscow Crawls, Kabul Burns
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by Jared Israel [19 October 2001]
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We in India have always been victims of terrorists from Pakistan. Many
times the Pakistan government would be on the Terrorist Watch List of
the U.S., but the U.S. would never brand them terrorists. How can the
Pakistan government be an ally to fight terrorism? They are the
terrorists. Remember that the 1993 bomber of WTC found sanctuary in
Pakistan. As for the U.S., when Indians were being killed by the Islamic
terror groups from Pakistan and Afghanistan, it wasn't terrorism - it
was a dispute. But when the exact same groups attack the U.S., it is
World Terrorism. (Arvind Kumar, a reader in California)
Colin Powell flew into Pakistan and gave a press conference two days
ago. U.S. fighter-bombers have been flying into Afghanistan all week.
On 17 October, the 'New York Times' reported:
American pilots have for the first time been freed to choose their own
targets and fire at will within specific zones around Taliban
strongholds in Afghanistan, senior Pentagon officials said today. United
States commanders warned that none of the Kabul leadership's forces were
immune from attack.
Tell that to the Red Cross. While President Bush was exhorting school
children to:
'go out and mow a lawn or do somebody a favor to earn a dollar' to help
the children of Afghanistan, and told them to send it directly to the
White House to be turned over to a Red Cross fund. ('Washington Post,'
17 October)
U.S. planes were bombing the Red Cross in Afghanistan:
'U.S. forces did not know that I.C.R.C. was using one or more of the
warehouses,' a Pentagon statement said. The Red Cross said each of five
warehouses in its compound was marked on the roof with a large red
cross. The raids occurred at about 1 p.m., in daylight, the agency
said. ('N.Y. Times,' 17 October 2001)
This is strikingly reminiscent of U.S. military crimes and
justifications in the 1999 war against Yugoslavia. There too, buildings
with red crosses on the roofs were bombed in daylight, though always by
accident. (1)
If clearly marked Red Cross buildings are not safe in the bright light
of day, then any structure, animal or person, with the bad luck to be
situated in a 'fire at will' zone may be blown to pieces. And we will
never hear about most such crimes because a) the U.S. military is
enforcing tight media control and b) most of the victims won't have the
Public Relations clout of the International Red Cross. Here's a
philosophical problem for you: if a child screams in pain but you are
not there to hear it, is he or she actually wounded?
[Residents of Kabul, Afghanistan look for belongings amid the rubble of
their home, Oct. 18. Four children were killed. Sayed Salahuddin/Reuters]
Why isn't this terrorism?
Because the U.S. government says it's not. Instead, we are told, it is
the unfortunate but unavoidable consequence of war, as if some natural
process were in control, as if the U.S. military command were helpless
to prevent the occurrence of 'fire at will' zones.
According to Washington, which has yet to present evidence that the WTC
horror was in fact masterminded from Afghanistan, it has no choice. but
to bomb. Thousands of hours of media broadcasts and miles of newsprint
support this claim, so who are we to ask for evidence?
Government officials and the media say: Bin Laden's terrorists are
attacking us. We have no choice but to wage 'infinite war' to root out
such terrorism.
Elsewhere we have argued that this answer is either weak or crazy. But
as more facts come to light, it becomes increasingly clear that this
answer is a conscious lie. (2)
The proof lies in one word: Pakistan. Pakistan is a key supporting
player in the infinite war, supposedly against terrorism.
On the 16th, Secretary Colin Powell held a joint press conference in
Islamabad with Gen. Pervez Musharraf, military dictator of Pakistan.
Here's what the 'New York Times' reported:
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The United States and Pakistan agreed today to work urgently for the
creation of a new, broad-based government in Afghanistan that both sides
said could include moderate elements of the Taliban movement whose
present leadership is now a target for the American-led military
campaign.
Secretary Powell said he had come to tell Pakistan that the United
States -- long chastised here as having abandoned its cold war ally
following the collapse of the Soviet Union -- was returning to
demonstrate our enduring commitment to a great Muslim nation. ...
The high praise heaped on Pakistan provided a curious sight: an
American secretary of state standing next to a general in uniform who
seized power in a military coup, and lauding his achievements.
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-Caveat Lector- I ordered this video and watched it last night. I knew most of what was presented already, but seeing the images made a deep impression. I learned new things about Panama, and especially about East Timor. Needless to say, I didn't sleep very well last night. People need to know this stuff, though it will probably cost a few nights' sleep. Samantha In a message dated 9/28/01 12:03:17 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My name is Frank Dorrel. I live in Culver City, California. I consider myself to be a peace activist. I am a Veteran for Peace. I work with the Save the Iraqi Children Coalition, and with many of the other peace organizations here in Los Angeles. I put together video compilations on U.S. foreign policy. My best video is called WHAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT U.S. FOREIGN POLICY, CIA Covert Operations and U.S. Interventions Since World War II- What You Didn't Learn in School and Don't Hear on the Mainstream Media. It is available for a $5 donation, plus postage. I am willing to mail it to you before receiving payment. It is a 2-hour compilation featuring 10 segments which I have edited. They are as follows: 1. Martin Luther King Jr., Civil rights leader who was killed after he spoke out against the U.S. war in Vietnam. 2. John Stockwell, Former CIA Chief of Station in Angola in 1975, working for then CIA Director, George Bush Sr. 3. Bill Moyers' The Secret Government Played on PBS-1987. Excellent! 4.Coverup:Behind the Iran-Contra Affair, What we did to Nicaragua. Narrated by Elizabeth Montgomery. Produced by the Empowerment Project. 5.School of Assassins with Father Roy Bourgeois on the School of the Americas at Fort Benning, Georgia. Narrated by Susan Sarandon. 6.Genocide by Sanctions shows the effects of the sanctions in Iraq, with Ramsey Clark talking to Iraqi doctors. Made by Gloria La Riva. 7.The Panama Deception Won the academy award for best documentary. Narrated by Elizabeth Montgomery, made by The Empowerment Project. 8.Ramsey Clark, Former Attorney General, talking on U.S. militarism. Very powerful! Filmed by Ralph Cole of JusticeVision. 9.Amy Goodman, Host of Democracy Now, FM Radio NY, talking on two genocides committed by the Indonesian military. First against it's own people then against the people of East Timor, both aided by the CIA. Filmed by Ralph Cole of JusticeVision. 10. S. Brian Willson, Vietnam Veteran who lost his legs when he was run over by a naval train carrying weapons headed to kill innocent civilians in Central America. Brian wages Unconditional Peace. Brian is introduced by Kris Kirstofferson. This video is an excellent educational tool that reveals the true nature of U.S. foreign policy. It has been seen in college classrooms, at churches and at various political groups. It is very convincing! People such as Howard Zinn, Brian Willson, Blase Bonpane, Ed Asner, Amy Goodman, Michael Parenti, Oliver Stone, Father Roy Bourgeois, Ramsey Clark, Casey Kasem, Ralph Cole and many others have seen this video and find it very worthwhile and informative. If you are interested in getting a copy of this video, email me your mailing address and I will mail you the tape. I do ask for a $6 donation, which includes postage. I will send you the video before I receive the payment. I do this in good faith and as a way to protect you. The donations do help me to keep this project going. My goal is to provide this information to as many people as possible. This is difficult because the mainstream media is owned by the multi-national corporations and the military-industrial-complex. They do not want to the truth to be known by the masses. This information is not what we learned in school. It is not what we see on TV, hear on the radio, read in the newspapers or experience in our own lives. The people on these videos are telling a truth that all Americans need to hear, if we are ever going to put a stop to U.S. imperialism. We have been lied by experts in propaganda and misinformation. We live in a state of mass denial, of mass hypnosis. If you really care about having Peace in the world, if you care about Justice and Freedom for all of the people who share the Earth with us, I believe the first step is to educate yourself to the true nature of U.S. foreign policy and then begin to share this information with other people. That is what this tape is about. And to those of you whose primary concern is the environment, you should be aware that United States militarism is one of the main contributing factors in polluting the Earth. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its
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10/18 Brendan: Coulter goes even farther off the deep end
After reading the Washington Monthly's compilation of past statements
by conservative commentator Ann Coulter, it seems hard to imagine how
she could be any more strident or irresponsible. Not anymore.
Despite the National Review Online's decision to stop running her
column and plagiarism charges from a former co-worker at Human
Events, Coulter continues to turn up the volume. Her newest
syndicated column opens with this jaw-dropper: Liberals are up to
their old tricks again. Twenty years of treason havent slowed them
down.
It is difficult to condemn this statement strongly enough. Coulter
is known for her sweeping ad hominem attacks, which we have strongly
criticized. Weve also denounced her recent foray into ethnic slurs.
But making a cavalier charge of treason against American liberals is
simply unconscionable, especially in a time of war. It is an
accusation of criminal disloyalty against millions of Americans.
After claiming that liberals have returned to their typical hysteria
and defeatism, Coulter goes on to argue that the thought that
America may lose the war on terrorism perks [them] up ... because it
reminds them of th
eir favorite war - Vietnam. They are only disconsolate when America wins wars.
Mid-diatribe and in search of a new target, she then trots out this
ethnic slur: Camel-riding nomads may excel at the sucker punch, but
wait until they see Western Civilizations response. Of course,
many of the terrorist hijackers were middle class college graduates,
and Osama Bin Laden himself is a multi-millionaire from a wealthy
Saudi Arabian family. But such complexity is always lost in
Coulter's cartoonish worldview.
For her grand finale, Coulter attacks a New York Times editorial
praising President Bush for repeatedly extolling the crucial role of
the federal government in providing for the safety of the American
people:
If you support the Marines, then how in God's name can you oppose
taxpayer-funded photos of bullwhips up men's anuses? At least I think
that's the logic.
Coulter's propagandizing has become completely incoherent. This is a
farcically heavy-handed and illogical attempt to inflame readers with
no relevance to the Times editorial.
In general, these grossly manipulative arguments are shameful. But
the charges of treason Coulter levels against liberals deserve
especially strong condemnation from all quarters.
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Threats Prompt U.S. to Close Embassies in Bosnia
By Beth Kampschror
CNSNews.com Correspondent
October 18, 2001
Sarajevo (CNSNews.com) - The United States has shut down its embassy
in Sarajevo until further notice, citing security threats throughout
Bosnia. Two embassy branch offices, in Mostar and Banja Luka, have
also been closed, as have the British embassy and its cultural center
in Sarajevo.
This step has been taken due to a credible security threat to the
official U.S. presence in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the U.S. embassy
said in a statement.
The U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), a high-profile
institution employing dozens of Americans, is also closed until
further notice.
The nature of the threat has not yet been disclosed, but a Mostar
daily reported that the threat is connected with a bomb that was
reportedly found outside Sarajevo Airport on Tuesday.
The police minister for the Muslim-Croat portion of Bosnia said the embassy closures
were preventative measures.
You know that the U.S. operation in Afghanistan is entering an important phase,
Tomislav Limov said Wednesday. It's estimated that there could be reactions, and that
is why the American embassy decided on the steps tha
t they took.
The embassy urged American citizens in Bosnia to maintain the highest level of
vigilance for the foreseeable future and warned them to be careful of establishments
where Americans or other members of the international c
ommunity were known to gather.
Security had been increased at the embassy following the Sept. 11 attacks on New York
and Washington.
Bosnian Prime Minister Zlatko Lagumdzija announced Wednesday that the government would
provide extra security for the embassies. Both buildings are now under heavy guard,
and armed guards could be seen patrolling outside
several other countries' embassies in Sarajevo Thursday.
A spokesperson for the 20,000-strong international peacekeeping force in Bosnia said
that the Stabilization Force (SFOR) has not taken any extra precautions in connection
to the latest threat. About 3,500 American troops
currently serve in SFOR.
SFOR is aware of the most recent events. We haven't taken any additional measures
besides those taken after the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, spokesperson Daryl
Morrell told reporters.
SFOR's recent new measures have included arresting people suspected
of being linked to international terrorism. At the beginning of
October, the forces arrested four men, who were later released.
Another man, Bensayah Belkacem, was arrested last week, found to be
carrying Algerian and Yemeni passports.
He is accused of having telephone conversations with an aide of Osama
bin Laden on how to procure foreign passports.
Local police are currently questioning 20 other people at the request
of the United States.
The United Nations war crimes tribunal's chief prosecutor, Carla del
Ponte, also turned over documents to the U.S. last week concerning
people in Bosnia who have connections to terrorist groups. Those are
thought to include some of the about 420 Islamic fighters who settled
in the country after fighting with the mainly Muslim Bosnian Army
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Hola Samantha Could you provide an address or phone/e0mail for this guy. Thanks, Ham In a message dated 10/19/01 7:19:21 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I ordered this video and watched it last night. I knew most of what was presented already, but seeing the images made a deep impression. I learned new things about Panama, and especially about East Timor. Needless to say, I didn't sleep very well last night. People need to know this stuff, though it will probably cost a few nights' sleep. Samantha In a message dated 9/28/01 12:03:17 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My name is Frank Dorrel. I live in Culver City, California. I consider myself to be a peace activist. I am a Veteran for Peace. I work with the Save the Iraqi Children Coalition, and with many of the other peace organizations here in Los Angeles. I put together video compilations on U.S. foreign policy. My best video is called "WHAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT U.S. FOREIGN POLICY, CIA Covert Operations and U.S. Interventions Since World War II- What You Didn't Learn in School and Don't Hear on the Mainstream Media". It is available for a $5 donation, plus postage. I am willing to mail it to you before receiving payment. It is a 2-hour compilation featuring 10 segments which I have edited. They are as follows:
[CTRL] More On Arlington Road: The Terrorist Next Door
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/offline6.htm Offline Illumination More On Arlington Road: The Terrorist Next Door by Uri Dowbenko The power elite cryptocracy has a special message for you in Arlington Road -- no matter, what you see on the evening news, you'll never know the real story. By thinly disguising traumatic events like the Oklahoma City Bombing and the Ruby Ridge Shootout, the film subverts them in a mind-bending conclusion that the forces of the cryptocracy, always behind the scenes, are always in control. In the movie, in fact, the mad bomber-terrorist tricks the chump, the protagonist, into doing the dirty deed for him. Set in the midst of a melange of conspiracy theories and homegrown terrorism, in a kind of 1950s Leave it to Beaver style Washington, D.C. suburbs, Arlington Road is about the subversion of history, and ultimately its unknowability, when the string-pullers are pulling the strings. Michael Faraday (Jeff Bridges), a history professor at George Washington University, becomes obsessed while teaching his course on American Terrorism. Explaining the bombing of an IRS Building, he tells his students, The Feds did this huge investigation, but the investigation didn't satisfy me. We want one man, and we want it fast because we want our security back, he continues, regarding the media coverup and killing of the lone-nut bomber scapegoat patsy supposedly responsible. Michael's wife, meanwhile, was an FBI agent, killed in a botched Ruby Ridge style assault in West Virginia. She died for her country, an agent named Carver (Robert Gossett tells him. 'She shouldn't have, re lies Michael. Regarding his bitterness toward the government, Michael says, When she died, all I wanted was someone to say we made a mistake. Meanwhile Michael's girlfriend, a former teaching assistant, Brooke Wolfe (Hope Davis) tries to help him get on with his life and become more than his significant other. The movie begins with a David Lynch styled scene of disorienting trauma in which a boy wanders in the streets with blood all over him, the result of an apparent explosion. It turns out he's the son of Michael's neighbors, Oliver Lang (Tim Robbins) and his wife Cheryl (Joan Cusack). At a backyard barbeque, later, Cheryl desribes her husband to Michael, He's such a good man; he's such a good father. But Michael becomes suspicious when he sees engineering plans at his neighbor's house. Checking him out, Michael finds out that his neighbor changed his identity, possibly stealing his best friend's name. As a 16- year old, he was also involved in a bombing when his father killed himself after the Bureau of Land Management absconded with the family' farm's water, thus driving them into bankruptcy. This supposedly turned the mild-mannered farm boy into a Unabomber clone bent on destruction. Then to compound his motives, the movie posits a conspiracy of like-minded individuals, a veritable army of homegrown lone-nut bombers living right next door to you. Arlington Road is mass mind control at its classiest. First, in the standard divide- and-rule tactics of the cryptocracy, it directs suspicion at so-called normal people in any typical neighborhood suburb. In other words, you might be unaware, living across the street from some nut-case who's planning to blow up the FBI Building. The movie also perpetuates the Big Media myth of armed and dangerous militia members who operate in an organized army against the federal governnent. And it promotes the concept that the Internet is too dangerous and must be controlled. Why? Because people can get information which violates others' right to privacy. The parallels between the scapegoat bomber of Arlington Road and the so-called Unabomber are striking. For example, in a fascinating piece called Profiling the FBI's Unabom Charade' (http:/ /wwwhoffman-info.com/unabom.html), Michael A. Hofftnan II describes Ted Kaczynski, the Designated Bomber, with the following, As for his alleged guilt, it should be recalled that the Unabomber is the FBI's concoction. The grouping of various bombings since 1978 under the 'Unabom' nomenclature is their invention. No credible evidence has been put forth to link Kaczynski to all or even most of these cowardly and reprehensible bombing. Tbe most prominent sketch of an alleged 'Unabom' suspect by a witness emanated from the 1987 bombing of a computer store in Salt Lake City. It depicts a hooded man with sunglassses, a mustache, curly red hair and bears no resemblance to Kaczynski, continues Hoffman. The drawing was executed by forensic artist Jeanne Boylan, an FBI contract employee. The female witness who provided the details upon which the drawing is based, apparently could not identify Kaczynski as the man she saw in 1987. Remember the mysterious John Doe II from the Oklahoma City Bombing? Was he another FBI concoction, a suspect who was first touted as an accomplice of Timothy McVeigh, then mysteriously
[CTRL] BRAINWASHING
-Caveat Lector- http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac/warfare.htm BRAINWASHING: How The British Use The Media for Mass Psychological Warfare by L. Wolfe Printed in The American Almanac, May 5, 1997. End of Page Mass Brainwashing Site MapOverview Page ``I know the secret of making the average American believe anything I want him to. Just let me control television You put something on the television and it becomes reality. If the world outside the TV set contradicts the images, people start trying to change the world to make it like the TV set images'' --Hal Becker, media ``expert'' and management consultant, the Futures Group, in an interview in 1981 [1] In the 15 years since Becker's comment, Americans have become even more ``wired'' into a mass media network that now includes computer and video games, as well as the Internet--an all-surrounding network whose power is so pervasive that it is almost taken for granted. As the standup comic said, ``We are really a media conscious people. I know a guy who was run over by a car in the street. He didn't want to go to the hospital. Instead, he dragged himself over to the nearest bar, to check out whether he made it onto the evening news. When it wasn't on, he said, `What does a guy have to do, get killed, to get on television?'|'' In the highest circles of the British monarchy and its Club of Isles, this great power is not taken for granted. Rather, it is carefully manipulated and directed, as Becker describes from a limited standpoint, to create and mold popular opinion. In a 1991 report published by the Malthusian Club of Rome, entitled ``The First Global Revolution,'' Sir Alexander King, top adviser on science and education policy to the royal family and Prince Philip, wrote that new advances in communications technology will greatly expand the power of the media, both in the advanced and developing sectors. The media, he proclaimed, is the most powerful weapon and ``agent of change'' in the fight to establish a ``one-worldist,'' neo-Malthusian order that will transcend and obliterate the concept of the nation-state. ``It is certainly necessary to engage in a broad debate with the journalists and the top media executives involved to study the conditions for them to be able to define this new role,'' King wrote. In his project, King's Club of Rome can count on cooperation from the media cartel, which is a British asset, as documented in our report. It can also call on the capabilities of a mass psychological warfare machine, also run by the British and their assets, which extends into key phases of media production, and includes writers and psychiatrists who help shape the content, and the pollsters who fine-tune and analyze the impact on targetted populations. Beyond this interacting network, there are millions of participants involved in the production, distribution, and transmission of media messages, whose thinking, in turn, has been shaped by the content of the media product, and who are, effectively, self-brainwashed by the culture within which they live. The Tavistock Mother The historic center of this mass psywar apparatus is based outside London, in the Tavistock Center. [2] Established in the aftermath of World War I under the patronage of the Duke George of Kent (1902-42), the original Tavistock Clinic, led by John Rawlings Rees, developed as the psychological warfare center for the royal family and British intelligence. Rees and a cadre group of Freudian and neo-Freudian psychiatrists, applied wartime experience of psychological collapse, to create theories about how such conditions of breakdown could be induced, absent the terror of war. The result was a theory of mass brainwashing, involving group experience, that could be used to alter the values of individuals, and through that, induce, over time, changes in the axiomatic assumptions that govern society. In the 1930s, Tavistock's extended networks developed a symbiotic relationship with the Frankfurt Institute for Social Research, created by European oligarchical networks, which focussed on the study and criticism of culture from a neo-Freudian standpoint. In the late 1930s, with its operations transferred from Germany to the New York area, the Frankfurt School coordinated the first analysis of the impact of a mass media phenomenon, i.e., radio, on culture--the Princeton-based ``Radio Research Project.'' [3] With the outbreak of World War II, Tavistock operatives took effective control of the Psychological Warfare Directorate of the British Army, while its allied network in the United States embedded itself in the American psychological warfare apparatus, including the
[CTRL] The Cartelization of the News Industry
-Caveat Lector- from: http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac/cartel.htm The Cartelization of the News Industry by Jeffrey Steinberg Printed in The American Almanac, May 5, 1997. End of Page Mass Brainwashing Site MapOverview Page In 1996, the 104th Congress, with overwhelming bipartisan support, and with the backing of the White House, passed a telecommunications bill that removed the last remaining obstacles to the complete cartelization of America's mass media and ``news'' industry. The door was opened for a handful of predominantly British and British-allied media giants to take over the newspaper, radio, and television markets in the major urban centers of the United States. Perhaps one reason that the sweeping deregulation of the communications, entertainment, and news media took place, with hardly a whimper of opposition from any factions in government, is that the process of corporate cartelization and mass-media tyranny had already advanced so far, that the new law represented merely a codification of something that had already been consolidated. In a rapidly growing number of cases, these media giants are not even American companies. Many of the most influential media conglomerates are directly British owned and operated: * The Hollinger Corporation, a direct outgrowth of World War II British Secret Intelligence Service operations, housed in Canada and the United States, owns more than 100 daily and weekly newspapers in the United States, concentrated in the Midwest. The Hollinger Corp. has been the driving force behind the campaign to destroy the institution of the U.S. Presidency, through what has come to be known as ``Clintongate.'' Hollinger has been acting as a branch of British intelligence in this effort, employing the most advanced methods of psychological warfare, and deploying its own resources as well as those of allied media organizations, private tax-exempt foundations, and ``wanna-be'' Tory factions of the U.S. Republican Party, to sink the Presidency. Hollinger is at the forefront of the Redcoat-media invasion of America, but they are not alone. * The Thomson Group, another British media conglomerate with long-standing ties to the British monarchy and British intelligence, owns over 100 newspapers all across America. Pearson, another Fleet Street giant, owns a large stake in the London Economist, the chief propaganda organ for the City of London financial establishment. * Rupert Murdoch, the Australian media mogul and personal protégé of Britain's World War II propaganda chief, Lord Beaverbrook, has spread his News Corporation all across the United States, in print media, radio, and television, while at the same time owning the semi-official organ of the British monarchy, the Times of London. A Near-Total Monopoly Among the American-owned media giants, a half-dozen companies share, with their British cousins, a near-total monopoly over the news. The Associated Press, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Los Angeles Times (Times Mirror Corp.) are, along with Reuters and the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC, and its U.S. de facto subsidiaries, National Public Radio and the Public Broadcasting System), almost the sole sources of news for the overwhelming majority of Americans. Except, that is, for the four television news departments at NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN (FOX-TV has recently built up its own news department). But, these four companies are themselves subsidiaries of even larger multimedia conglomerates: General Electric owns NBC; Time Warner recently absorbed CNN; Disney/Capital Cities owns ABC; and Westinghouse owns CBS. Each of these mega-media-entities owns local TV and radio stations in major urban centers, as well as magazines, motion picture companies, and record companies, (in addition to their more familiar product lines), throughout the United States. The reach of this cartel extends far beyond the borders of the United States, to reach English speakers around the world. For example, the International Herald Tribune, the English-language ``newspaper of record'' abroad, is a joint venture of the Washington Post and New York Times. Whereas, not too long ago, various trade journals would compile a profile of the 100 most powerful media executives, the list has now dwindled down to no more than 20 multimedia CEOs. This, then is the structure of an enormous cartel, operating in a mode that British Intelligence official H.G. Wells dubbed an ``open conspiracy.'' Murdoch, Ted Turner and similar media moguls have been trumpeted in the pages of the British-influenced ``American'' society journal, Vanity Fair as holding the ``real power'' in what is called the ``New Establishment.'' But, that too, like the
[CTRL] Fwd: Assassinated Israeli Minister Had Ties To Jewish-Russian Organized Crime...
Assassinated Israeli Minister Had Ties To Jewish-Russian Organized Crime Had Been Denied Government Most In 1980s Because Of Links To Sex Slavery / Prostitution 10/19/01 10:59:28 AM LSN Staff Jerusalm, Occupied Palestine -- Assassinated Israeli Tourism Minister Rehavem Ze'evi had ties to ethnically- based Jewish criminal organizations in Russia and the Former Soviet Union, and has been praviously tied to the trafficking of prostitutes and sex slaves into Israel from Russia and Eastern Europe, according to a series of Israeli newspaper articles that ran in 1990 when Ze'evi was nominated to be Minister of Police by the government of Yitzhak Shmair. Organized Jewish criminals in Russia, as highlighted in a Jeruslam Post article in 1999, have been involved in the transport of Russian and Eastern European women, either through actual kidnap or through promises of a new job and a new life, into Israel, where the women are raped and forced into prostitution. This activity is tacitly approved of by extreme racist elements in the Israeli government, who upon ecnountering a sex slave, promptly arrest them for entering the country without a visa and deport them before they can testify against their accusers. The Jeruslam Post article also discusses how there is no law in Israel against slavery, and thus police could not arrest the slave- traders in most situations even if they wanted to. The articles regarding Ze'evi are not available on line, as no Israeli newspapers have their articles archived back to 1990, but an article that appeared in a recent edition of Forward hints at Ze'evi's connections to organized crime (for those who want an immediate reference): http://www.forward.com/issues/2001/01.10.19/news2.html Libertarian Socialist News Post Office Box 12244 Silver Spring, MD 20908 http://www.overthrow.com (check out our messageboards -- discuss this story on-line!) (Formerly http://www.libertariansocialist.com)
[CTRL] The end of an unserious decade
This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24997 Friday, October 19, 2001 The end of an unserious decade By Patrick J. Buchanan © 2001 Creators Syndicate, Inc. In September 1929, "the Roaring Twenties," "the Era of Wonderful Nonsense," of sex, booze and jazz, ended with the stock market crash that began the Great Depression. There followed the "low dishonest decade" of poet W. H. Auden's depiction, as Western statesmen sought to appease their way to security and peace. On Sept. 11, 2001, as the 767s smashed into the twin towers of the World Trade Center and Pentagon, killing 5,000 Americans, another unserious era of sex scandals and stock market silliness came to an end. Recall, if you will, the summer of 2001. The story that had CNN, MSNBC and FOX News transfixed was the saga of Gary Condit. Nightly, talk-show hosts demanded answers to the great questions: Why did Gary throw away the watch box? Where did stewardess Anne Marie Smith spend her D.C. nights? By Sept. 11, the story seemed about to end in a great courtroom drama, with Anne Marie charging Gary with libel – for denying she committed adultery. What will the decade be remembered for? The Trial of O. J.? Who killed Jon-Benet Ramsey? The Oval Office trysts of Bill and Monica? Condit summer? Meanwhile, not to worry about the world. For America is "the last superpower," the "indispensable nation." The New Economy will take us to "Dow 36,000!" "Pax Americana" and "Global Democracy" are our destiny. On Sept. 11, the frivolous era came to an end. Suddenly, for the first time since Gen. Jackson drove the British army out of Louisiana, the enemy was inside the gates, slaughtering thousands. Why? Because we adopted an open-borders policy that left tens of millions of illegal aliens wandering about America, few of whom had any loyalty to us, some of whom were willing to murder us on the orders of their foreign masters. To keep the cost of labor down, we let millions of strangers, and not a few enemies, into our home. Never before has America been so vulnerable, and corporate greed and craven politics did it to us. Tuesday, the U.S. reported that industrial production fell for the 12th straight month. Bethlehem Steel became the latest U.S. company to go Chapter 11. U.S. factories now produce at 75 percent of capacity. Last year, the U.S. trade deficit in manufactureds hit $324 billion and the merchandise trade deficit $450 billion. The de-industrialization of America is well advanced. In a triumph of the globalists, America has become again what she has not been in generations: a dependent nation. For the loss of our economic independence, we may thank the free-trade-uber-alles crowd. They tell us their high principles prevent them from saving the U.S. industries their policies are designed to kill. But, routinely, they loot our tax dollars to bail out their banker friends and foreign collaborators from Indonesia to Russia to Argentina. With the collapse of the Soviet Empire, the U.S. had a chance to dissolve old Cold War alliances and adopt an America First policy of non-intervention in wars that were none of our business. Instead, we launched the Gulf War, expanded NATO to Russia's border, went nation-building in Somalia, invaded Haiti, plunged into the Balkans, smashed Serbia and imposed sanctions that may have killed half a million Iraqis. Today, U.S. war commitments in Eastern Europe, the Balkans, the Gulf, Central Asia and the Taiwan Strait exceed those of Ronald Reagan. Yet, Mr. Bush has only half the Army, Navy and Air Force Mr. Reagan had. Never has America been so over-extended. How has the American Empire profited the American people? Only the Brits are with us in Afghanistan, and they will take a pass on the next war planned by our war hawks: The invasion of Iraq. Meanwhile, once-friendly regimes from Jordan to Malaysia squirm to distance themselves from "the indispensable nation." With the FBI warning of a 100 percent chance of terrorist attacks, with anthrax scares shutting down Congress, with daily calls to curtail civil liberties, questions arise: Are we more or less free and secure than when we began to build this "New World Order"? Are we better off now than we were before we ignored our founding fathers and decided to go abroad "in search of monsters to destroy"? The president has moved with great prudence in the Afghan war. Let us go in, get them, get out and go home – and let the Arab and Islamic world work out its own destiny. But of this we may be sure: History will hold the globalists and latter-day imperialists of left and right accountable. Their epitaph is already written: "On the altar of global empire, they sacrificed their country."Pat Buchanan has been a senior adviser to three presidents, twice a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination and the presidential nominee of the Reform Party in
[CTRL] Bush,Cheney The Saudi Status Quo
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?ItemID=12172 Oil omissions Bush Sr., Cheney have big stakes in Saudi status quo The New York Times ran an interesting article Sunday, as interesting for what it did not say as for what it did. Headlined, "Fears, Again, of Oil Supplies at Risk," the piece by Neela Banerjee addressed the nightmares that George W's war has raised among those concerned about oil. Politicians and oil executives imagine, says Banerjee, a potential domino effect that could end up with angry Persian Gulf states cutting off the flow of oil to the west, terrorism blocking its transport through the Strait of Hormuz and even Osama bin Laden taking control of Saudi Arabia from a toppled Saud family. "If bin Laden takes over and becomes king of Saudi Arabia, he'd turn off the tap," Roger Diwan, a managing director of the Petroleum Finance Company, a consulting firm in Washington, told Banerjee. "He said at one point that he wants oil to be $144 a barrel - about six times what it sells for now." And Saudi Arabia, the Times reminds us, is Osama bin Laden's Enemy No. 1: "Mr. bin Laden has long made clear that his ultimate goal, more than wreaking havoc in the West, is toppling the Saud family. And Saudi Arabia would be a crucial target for anyone seeking to cut deeply into the world oil flow." Banerjee restates other points that need emphasizing, such as the fact that while U.S.-dependence on Gulf oil is down to 13 percent of overall use, Saudi Arabia is still the country's biggest single supplier of crude. Moreover, "The Saudis are the only ones with enough spare oil-field capacity to call on if there is a severe disruption elsewhere," he writes. There are some major omissions, however, in Banerjee's piece. The first of these is that in an article focusing on Saudi Arabia, oil and the United States, there is no acknowledgement of the Bush family's ties to the corrupt Kingdom of Saud, and its explicit investment in maintaining the status quo in that fundamentalist country. Most obviously, ex-President and ex-CIA Director George Bush has been working his assets for the Washington-based Carlyle Group, a $12 billion private equity firm, since he left office. He specializes in Saudi Arabia and certainly has in interest in the Kingdom's enduring profitability. The public-interest law firm Judicial Watch earlier this year strongly criticized this situation, pointing out in a March 5 statement that it is a "conflict of interest [which] could cause problems for America's foreign policy in the Middle East and Asia." In a Sept. 29 statement, Judicial Watch added that, "This conflict of interest has now turned into a scandal. The idea of the president's father, an ex-president himself, doing business with a company under investigation by the FBI in the terror attacks of September 11 is horrible." They demanded President Bush make his father pull out of the Carlyle Group. Additionally, an article about oil supplies that doesn't mention the Caspian Sea is quite something to see. Banerjee entirely ignores the story that is burning up progressive talk radio waves this month, and buzzing around thoughtful alternative Web sites. Hidden behind President Bush's war to avenge the victims of September 11, could there be an Oil Agenda? Michael Klare, author of "Resource Wars," has suggested that the long-term Bush/Cheney plan is to establish a Pax Americana in Central Asia and secure the vast oil resources of the Caspian Basin. U.S. oil companies have been negotiating with the post-Soviet republics of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan for access to the oil for years, but have been stymied by political instability in the region. Oil conglomerates were torn between two possible pipeline routes to Western markets: west through the war-torn Caucasus Mountains to Turkey, or south through war-torn Afghanistan to Pakistan and the Arabian Sea. Until it was put on hold in 1998, Unocal, which spearheaded the Afghan project was to have built a 1,005-mile oil pipeline and a companion 918-mile natural gas pipeline, in addition to a tanker loading terminal in Pakistan's Arabian Sea port of Gwadan. The company projected annual revenues of $2 billion, or enough to recover the cost of the project in five years. As reported by journalist Jan Goodwin, Unocal opened offices in Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan and Turkmenistan and got every faction of the Afghan Northern Alliance to sign on. Even former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger got on board to help sell the project in the region. [See: New York Times, 12/5/98] Backing the Caspian plan is none other than Vice President Dick Cheney, who, as CEO of Halliburton was successful in winning contracts from Caspian Sea states to be part of any future development. In 1994, Cheney helped to broker a deal between the oil company Chevron and the state of Kazakhstan when he sat on the Oil Advisory Board of that former soviet state. The Amarillo Globe-News reported on a 1998 talk
[CTRL] [ctrl] Ted Turner Alcholic Bum to Decide Who Lives and dies? (fwd)
visit my web site at http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon My ICQ# is 79071904 for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.voicenet.com/~wbacon/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 22:22:40 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ctrl] Ted Turner Alcholic Bum to Decide Who Lives and dies? this man has given oh so much money to the UN and this man has always been a front man for someone else. In this item this alcoholic bum, Ted Turner is alleged to have said 98 percent of the people are not fit to live where they are permitted to pollute the earth. This drunken bum, is nothing but a front man for organized crime and always has been the fact that he married a woman who, had Viet Nam been a legal war, could have been executed for treason like a Tokyo Rose or a Lord Haw Haw - does not seem to phase him but he did sober up long enough to get a good look at what he had married, and gave her the boot. This item is very long, but in it is big germ of truth from the population control to even mention of Green Berets. It is obvious to me the Calendar of Death I have keyed to the Stars and the Testaments is not only the Communist Timetable, but is used by the head assassins who put out the hits on unsuspecting heads of the countries wth whom they disagree - and all roads do lead, to this Christian Zionist crap. Anyway, if you pull up this article think those on list interested in this kind of material will enjoy same for herein lay part of the great conspiracy as old as the original bible itself and the bible in the wrong hands, is a very dangerous book.but then Hitler found that out in the end, didn't he? Saba Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/Gi0tnD/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/xRZolB/TM -~- To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Om Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Transcripts/babylon_video_trans_hym.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Om Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [CTRL] US Troops Abandoning Army,Seeking Conscientious Objector Status...
-Caveat Lector- Samantha L wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/18/01 6:06:26 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yantis also said it would be disingenuous, for a soldier to say, 'Oh, I joined up to be an infantryman. I never knew that that meant I might have to go to war.' I agree. The military is a large, organized killing apparatus. That's all it is and all it's ever been. How can anyone not know this? If the military tried to seduce them into joining this killing apparatus by misrepresenting the facts, who is surprised? An organization that prides itself on researching and implementing various ways to cause suffering and death is not exactly above lying. This situation now increases the probablility of a draft for those young people who knew enough not to volunteer. Basic Training should have erased all doubts as to purpose of the armed forces. -- ´´ Mark McHugh A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [BIOWAR] Cipro Takers Developing Toxic Shock
Can anyone corroborate this? http://www.lucianne.com/ LUCIANNE.COM EXCLUSIVE - Cipro Takers Developing Toxic Shock Lucianne.com, by LComStaff Original Article Posted By: LComStaff - 10/19/2001 5:18:19 PM Sources close [to] the American Media in Florida reporting a problem no one wants to talk about. Several people taking Cipro have developed toxic shock reactions. A half-dozen ambulance calls to new building in last couple days. . . people having convulsions. As Drudge would say..developing. PREPost to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List info: www.topica.com/lists/biowar /PRE PRE==^ EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: A HREF= http://topica.com/u/?bz8Q0W.bAgsdR http://topica.com/u/?bz8Q0W.bAgsdR/A Or send an email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! A HREF= http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register/A ==^/PRE
[CTRL] Fwd: FTW SUBSCRIBER BULLETIN 01-19 Terrorist Surface to Air Missiles May Be in U.S. - Nuke Plants Possible Targets
Terrorist Surface to Air Missiles Possibly in U.S. Government is in No Comment Mode by Michael C. Ruppert [© Copyright 2001, Michael C. Ruppert and From The Wilderness Publications. All Rights Reserved. May be recopied or distributed for non-profit purposes only.] (Editorial Note: Although FTW has received many reports pertaining to the likely nature of future terrorist attacks we have refrained from publishing them because we either felt that they were unsubstantiated or risked causing unnecessary alarm. This story is the first such story that we have felt it essential to report. We view the anthrax outbreaks of recent weeks as a distracting form of psychological warfare, which do not pose an immediate risk to any large numbers of people.) FTW, October 19, 2001, 1400 PDT Credible information received by FTW from a source long connected to intelligence operations, and circumstantially supported by recent but little publicized events including government alerts - indicates that a number of hand-held surface-to-air missiles, perhaps as many as 35, may have been smuggled into the U.S. from Canada. Events in the last two days at U.S. and French nuclear generating plants lend credibility to the sources claims. On October 15 Michael Riconosciuto, a computer programmer connected by government documents to CIA and FBI intelligence operations involving Promis software, made contact with a radio talk show host who has requested anonymity. Riconosciuto passed on a warning that as many as 35 Russian-made surface to air missiles had been smuggled across the Canadian border into the U.S. The movement of the missiles reportedly occurred within the last week to ten days. According to the broadcaster the missiles were part of a two-phase attack on the United States that began with the World Trade Center attacks on September 11. The second phase of the plan was to shoot down large aircraft over population centers and/or high value targets. Although Riconosciuto is currently an inmate in the federal penitentiary at Allenwood, PA serving a sentence on a drug conviction - he has repeatedly been the source of highly accurate information as documented in a number of press stories, even while in prison. His status as a credible intelligence source, both for U.S. and foreign agencies was confirmed last year in an investigation by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) national security staff. During that investigation, members of the RCMP tracking developments around an intelligence software program known as Promis - visited FTW editor Michael Ruppert and acknowledged that Riconosciuto was a key player with highly sensitive intelligence knowledge. However, both the RCMP investigators and Ruppert shared the opinion that Riconosciutos information was not always 100% accurate. (To read a fuller description on the RCMP/Promis investigation please visit http://www.copvcia.com/stories/may_2001/052401_promis.html.) In a recent and unrelated development, United States government agencies, including the Department of Justice and the FBI, acknowledged in FOX News reports on October 17, that they had stopped using Promis. FTW has confirmed that the FBI now admits use of the software. These sudden reversals came after years of denials - including court testimony - from those agencies that they had ever used the software. These confirmations support longstanding claims made by Riconosciuto. On the evening of October 17, as confirmed by brief but unpublicized stories by the Associated Press and in direct interviews by FTW, the Three Mile Island (TMI) nuclear plant outside of Harrisburg, PA was put on a state of high alert. At the same time the FAA ordered an immediate and unexplained shutdown of the Harrisburg airport located just a few miles from the plant. On October 19, an AP report disclosed that France had suddenly set up a radar system in northwest France to sweep the skies above Europes largest nuclear reprocessing plant as a precaution against airborne suicide attacks. Taken at its face the AP story seems to indicate preparations for a different kind of attack. However, it raises questions about why military and civilian radar systems currently in operation would not detect an aircraft moving off course toward the plant and might possibly be a cover to disguise other kinds of preparations. There are too many operational variables to determine, one way or another, if the French move is connected to events at TMI. Harrisburg airport spokesperson, Scott Miller, told FTW that he had no knowledge of why the FAA ordered the shutdown of the Harrisburg airport on Wednesday night. We were just following orders from the FAA. FAA Eastern Regional spokesperson Jim Peters told FTW, Even if I knew, Id have to refer you to the FBI. An unidentified spokesperson at FBI headquarters in Washington, D.C. told FTW, No comment. The Harrisburg airport reopened
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Was CIA Running Terrorist Flight School?
from www.madcowprod.com October 19--Your legend is your cover story, in intelligence parlance; the lie that holds together long enough to let you skip the country... The legends of Rudi Dekkers as flight school owner and Mohamed Atta as fanatic 'Islamic fundamentalist have been fraying at the edges since the collapse of the World Trade Center. Still, they may have lasted long enough to do the job for which they were intended. With a war on, no one seems to be losing sleep over the fact that the version of events currently being peddled about the September 11th disaster relies on what one law enforcement source wryly calls 'the magic Dutch boy' theory. In the Kennedy assassination 'the Magic Bullet' theory allowed the FBI to apply Lee Harvey Oswalds lone nut gunman tag. The current 'lone nut cadre theory' of the FBI for the Sept 11 disaster, goes this latest reasoning, will only fly through use of a similarly-twisted logic trail, one now being called 'the magic Dutch boy theory.' It goes like this: Both of the pilots who guided planes into the twin towers of the World Trade Center had trained at Rudi Dekkers Huffman Aviation when they first got to America. Dekkers, a Dutch national, had only recently purchased the flight school located at the small out of the way Venice Florida Airport. The terrorist duo practicing touch and gos in the humid September air on Floridas Gulf coast were soon joined by a third student terrorist pilot, the one on UAL Flight 93. He signed up at the Florida Flight Training Center almost next door to Dekkers Huffman Aviation, making it a terrorist trifecta out at the unsuspecting Venice Airport. Just like Dekkers Huffman Aviation, this second flight school had also just changed owners. And the new owner of this flight school too turns out to be a Dutch national. His name is Arne Kruithof, from Rotterdam in the Netherlands. The magic Dutch boy theory says that the appearance of these two foreign nationals, both Dutch, purchasing flight schools at the same time at the same airport is merely a 'magical' coincidence... Because if the appearance of a second Dutch national purchasing a flight school right as the terrorist cadre show up isn't just the a strange coincidence belonging on Ripleys Believe it Or Not... then they're hiding what looks unmistakably like a covert intelligence operation down in Venice Florida. It being Florida, that means the CIA, reputed to be active in the state. "Two Dutch boys buying adjacent flight schools which shortly thereafter get 'overrun by terrorists is one damn Dutch boy too many," stated our law enforcement source. "Its untidy." Was the CIA running a covert, or black, operation out of the Venice, Florida Airport? Might they have been training pilots for Bin Laden in an effort to penetrate his organization that went more-than-just-slightly-horrifically awry? Will we someday be adding Magic Dutch Boy to the 'Magic Bullet' Wing of the Secret History Museum? The local Venice Gondolier two days after the disaster ran a huge black headline reading: "Evil in our own backyard." Underneath it they had placed a picture of Rudi Dekkers facing a phalanx of TV cameras out at the Venice Airport. The irony of the juxtaposition did not go unnoticed. "At first everyone just thought it was kind of amusing," an aviation employee at the airport said, "because it made Dekkers look like he was the evil in our backyard, which the newspaper probably didnt mean." Pause. "And then it hit me. Dekkers had purchased his aviation school at just about the time the terrorist pilots moved into town and began their lessons." Is Rudi Dekkers just an innocent aviation executive whose flight school received the most unfortunate business publicity since Ryder Trucks at the time of the Oklahoma City bombing? Or is there a darker reality lurking behind his widely promoted public persona? Reporters swarmed the Venice airport in the days after the identity of the terrorist pilots and their relationship with the local flight schools became known. An analysis of their stories reveals that there were two different versions of events being given by flight school representatives, that were in disagreement even on basic chronology, like which of their schools the terrorists attended first. A flight instructor at Jones Aviation Flying Service Inc. which operates from the Venice-adjacent Sarasota Bradenton International Airport, told the Associated Press that Atta and Al-Shehhi arrived in "September or October" and asked to be given flight training. Jones Instructor Ivan Chirivella said the two came to Jones Aviation from Huffman Aviation in Venice. Chirivella said he spent four hours almost every morning from September to October last year instructing Mohamed Atta, 33, and Marwan Yousef Alshehhi, 23. But Rudi Dekkers at Huffman Aviation, who has been getting all the national face-time, had been telling a different tale.They signed up at Huffman in late July, he stated in innumerable
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: What I've Learned About U.S. Foreign Policy
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 10/19/01 4:08:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hola Samantha Could you provide an address or phone/e0mail for this guy. Thanks, Ham Oops, I thought I'd included that portion. I also left out another important part, about a reprint of a book. Here is all the additional info: In Peace, Truth, Justice Hope for All of the People of the Earth! Frank Dorrel 3967 Shedd Terrace Culver City, Calif. 90232 310-838-8131 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ALSO IN THE WORKS ADDICTED TO WAR, WHY THE U.S. CAN'T KICK MILITARISM by Joel Andreas We are also reprinting this brilliant 64 page illustrated expose, first published in 1993, which is now out of print. This is the best book I have ever read on this subject! It is endorsed by Howard Zinn, Michael Parenti, Blase Bonpane, S. Brian Willson, Ed Asner, George Carlin, Casey Kasem, Susan Sarandon, Michael Ruppert and many others. Addicted to War takes on the most powerful and destructive military in the world. Hard-hitting, carefully documented, and heavily illustrated, it reveals why the United States has been involved in more wars in recent years than any other country. Read it to find out who benefits from these military adventures, who pays, who dies. This book is easy to read and understand. It has 161 footnotes. It also has great quotes from some of the military, government business leaders who have been in control of our American system. Our tax dollars have been used to exploit the people of the Third World, while many of the problems here at home have not be taken care of. At this point I can send you a xerox copy of Addicted to War for $6, or you can send me an email letting me know that you would like to get a new copy ($8), as soon as it is reprinted, hopefully sometime in December. Joel Andreas will be updating this book, as it was written in 1993. He will include the events of September 11th, asking the question, Why did this happen? It is my belief that in order to bring about peace in this world, the truth needs to be understood by a certain percentage of the American people. This tape and this book will go along way in doing just that. They are learning tools that each of you can use in the struggle for Peace and Justice. Thank you for being concerned and involved. And thanks to Ralph Cole for the work he has done in order to bring to you the best speakers and events on these issues, all across the country. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ron Bonds - Rarely fatal bacteria contributed to his death
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Subj:[the_octopus] {Ron Bonds} Rarely fatal bacteria contributed to
diner's death
Date: 10/19/01 8:25:06 PM Central Daylight Time
http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/2001-08-08/news_feature2.html
Widow sues restaurant
Rarely fatal bacteria contributed to diner's death
BY MARA SHALHOUP
Just after noon on April 7, Ron Bonds and his wife sat down to lunch at the
El Azteca restaurant on Ponce de Leon Avenue. They both ordered and ate
meals that contained ground beef. An hour later, they paid their bill and
left.
At 9 p.m., a wave of nausea hit Bonds. Then the vomiting and diarrhea set
in. Six hours later, his condition alarmed him enough to ask his wife, who
had become slightly ill, to call an ambulance. Shortly after it pulled up to
their Morningside home, Bonds collapsed on the bathroom floor.
For years, Bonds had suffered both gastritis, a swelling of the stomach, and
diverticulosis, a tiny pouch-like scarring of the colon and intestinal
walls. Those pouches, when irritated by a foreign substance such as
food-borne bacteria, can swell and cause painful inflammation and bleeding.
When Bonds arrived at Grady Memorial Hospital, tubes were inserted into his
nose and mouth, reaching into his intestines and lungs. But doctors could do
little to stop the internal swelling or to rouse him from unconsciousness.
At 5:30 a.m. April 8, Bonds died. He was 48.
Nancy Kratzer didn't believe the doctors when they told her her husband was
dead. According to her attorney Mark Harper, she kept repeating, No, that
can't be; it was only food poisoning.
A Fulton County medical examiner performed an autopsy April 9. According to
the death certificate, severe swelling of the stomach and the intestines
killed Bonds. The swelling was triggered by bacteria called Clostridium
perfringens, the certificate states. It describes the injury as ingested
contaminated food and lists the place of injury as restaurant ... 939
Ponce de Leon Ave.
On the day following the autopsy, the medical examiner notified the county
health department that a large amount of Clostridium perfringens had been
found in Bonds' stool. The day after, county health inspectors visited El
Azteca. Four days had passed since Bonds ate there. The inspectors took
samples of beef from a steam table and delivered them that afternoon to a
state lab, according to the health department's investigative report. State
epidemiologists found 6 million cells of the bacteria per gram of beef.
Fulton health department officials said those numbers warrant attention,
since as few as 10,000 cells per gram can cause illness. But the numbers
don't indicate how harmful the beef could be, because different people have
different reactions to the bacteria, officials told CL.
Clostridium perfringens multiplies in cooked food that is cooled too slowly,
according to Michael Doyle, a professor at the University of Georgia's
Center for Food Safety. Even if cooked ground beef is refrigerated
immediately, a big vat can take hours or even a day to cool, Doyle says. To
kill the bacteria, food must be reheated to a specific degree.
Doyle says ingesting too much of the bacteria typically entails a day or two
of diarrhea and, sometimes, vomiting. But on rare occasion, especially when
somebody has underlying illnesses, it can be worse, he says.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported in a 1999 study that
a fatal reaction to Clostridium perfringens food poisoning occurs in .0005
percent of cases.
A week after health inspectors took El Azteca meat samples, the health
department obtained credit card receipts from all of the customers who ate
at the restaurant the day Bonds and his wife did, according to the
department's report.
From 217 names, the inspectors tracked down 118 potential customers. Seven
said they'd had diarrhea anywhere from 12 to 81 hours after eating at El
Azteca. Five said they had suffered cramps in that time period. Three said
they had vomited.
Although none of those people was able to submit a stool sample, the
department report states that one suffered a probable case of Clostridium
perfringens infection, judging from the length of incubation time and the
characteristics of the symptoms.
After identifying the other possible illness, the department put the
restaurant on probation, testing samples of El Azteca beef weekly until two
consecutive weeks passed without notable amounts of the bacteria. Because
the next two tests proved relatively bacteria free, the department ceased
testing after two weeks and concluded its investigation.
In order to suspend or revoke a restaurant's permit following a food-borne
illness outbreak, the health director must determine that the outbreak is a
substantial or imminent health hazard to the public, according to
department rules. Fulton Health Director Adewale Troutman did not reach that
finding.
Although inspectors haven't checked the restaurant for Clostridium
perfringens since April, three routine
Re: [CTRL] Americans Target Of Largest Brainwashing...In History (Pt.2)
-Caveat Lector- Bill - I'm late in reading these articles. This part really surprised me. These are exact quotes from The Siege? Amazing! Samantha In a message dated 10/16/01 6:58:38 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Somewhere in your memory banks, were planted the pictures in your head of the WTC attack. New Yorker film critic Anthony Lane writes in the magazine's Sept. 24 issue, How often have we listened to these words [since Sept. 11]. The statement of fact: `The worst terrorist bombing since Oklahoma City.' The promise: `Make no mistake about it--we will hunt down the enemy, we will find the enemy, and we will kill the enemy.' The caution: `You can't fight a war against an enemy you can't see.' And the ominous look ahead: `This is a time of war; the fact that it is inside our border means that it is a new kind of war.' We have learned such sentiments like a script; that we have heard it again and again [in the days since Sept. 11] has not diminished the sternness with which we have given our assent. Just one problem: it IS a script. All the lines quoted come from `The Siege,' a 1998 thriller directed by Edward Zwick. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Returnees From Albania
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/2001/556/11war3.htm }}}Begin Al-Ahram Weekly Online 18 - 24 October 2001 Issue No.556 Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875 Current issue | Previous issue | Site map Egypt's most wanted Egyptian Afghans, the hard core of Al-Qa'ida, are based not only in Afghanistan but across Europe. In the United Kingdom, Germany, and Austria, Bin Laden's lieutenants have for years enjoyed political asylum. Only recently have some found their way to prison, or were delivered -- handcuffed -- to Egypt. Ahmed Moussa reports Afghan Arabs. Al-Qa'ida. If they stick, these labels can elevate people to the dubious ranks of the most-wanted list. Since 11 September, members of Osama Bin Laden's outfit, blamed for the attacks on New York and Washington, have been the subject of one of the largest manhunts known in modern times. The men often referred to as Afghan Arabs were mostly young people when they headed to Afghanistan in the early 1980s to fight the Soviets. Mission accomplished, many of them returned home after the war, only to face and cause trouble. Others moved on, taking residence in over 25 countries, obtaining political asylum, often with the blessing of the intelligence services of the host countries. Some, it is claimed, even worked for these int elligence services. Now the focus of international attention is: who are these men, where are they, and what links have they kept with Bin Laden? The Egyptian roster of most-wanted men is long. Below is a list of the key figures. 1. Ayman Rabi' El-Zawahri, leader of Al-Jihad group. El-Zawahri was sentenced to death in Egypt in 1999 in a case dubbed the Returnees from Albania. Born in Giza in 1951, El-Zawahri was the eldest son in the family. Two of his brothers are known militants. Mohamed is in charge of Al-Jihad's military wing. Hussein was convicted for his role in the assassination attempt against former Interior Minister Hassan Abu Basha in 1987. Security records say El-Zawahri began his terrorist career in 1974 with a group dubbed Yehya Hashim. In the late 1970s, El-Zawahri joined Al-Jihad and was sentenced to three years in prison in connection with the assass ination of President Anwar El-Sadat in 1981. He was released in 1984 and left the country for Saudi Arabia. Later, he moved to Pakistan, where he set up an Al-Jihad office in Peshawar. He met Bin Ladin for the first time in 1989 and the two men became virtually inseparable. In the absence of Bin Laden, security sources believe El- Zawahri is the only man capable of leading Al- Qa'ida. This is why the two have taken shelter in separate hid ing places, in anticipation of US strikes. Former colleagues of El-Zawahri say he travelled in the mid-1990s to the United States where he collected donations to support his group. He is also said to have instructed his aides to buy sophisticated communications te chnology capable of tracing satellite radio frequencies. El-Zawahri's name appears on US terror lists with a promise of a $5 million reward to anyone providing information leading to his capture. Egypt had given his name to Interpol in 1996 and again in 1997, requesting his arrest and extradition. El-Zawahri kept in touch with his followers in Europe and other countries, particularly after the 1998 US air raid on Bin Laden's camps in Afghanistan, which he narrowly survived. Two years earlier, he had visited several countries including the United States and the United Kingdom, at one point staying with Bin Laden in a villa in Wembley, north London, owned by the latter. El-Zawahri joined the World Front for the Fight Against Jews and Crusaders, set up by Bin Laden in 1998 with the purpose of striking against US and Jewish interests. 2. Rifa'i Ahmed Taha, a key official of Al- Gama'a Al-Islamiya, received a death sentence in absentia in connection with the case dubbed the Returnees from Afghanistan. Taha, 51, with a degree in commerce from Assiut Un iversity, served a five-year sentence for terrorist activities. Following his release, he left the country and settled in Afghanistan. He is credited with planning the massacre of tourists in Luxor in 1997. He signed the statement Bin Laden issued in support of operations against US interests and Israelis. But he did not join the World Front, the keystone of Al-Qa'ida. 3. Subhi Abdel-Aziz El-Gohari Abu Sittah, who also goes by the names Abu Hafs El-Masri and Mohamed Atif. He is wanted by the United States and is believed to be one of Bin Laden's key planners and a mastermind of Al-Qa'id a's military operations. Abu Sittah went to Afghanistan in the early 1980s, where he worked in training camps for Arab mujahidin. He became the top military officer in Al-Qa'ida after the death of Ali Amin El- Rashidi, who drowned in Lake Victori a in 1994. A year ago, a daughter of his married one of Bin Ladin's sons. 4. Nasr Fahmi Nasr Hassanein, also known as Mohamed Salah. He received a
[CTRL] Backdoor to Afghania
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/2001/556/2war4.htm }}}Begin Al-Ahram Weekly Online 18 - 24 October 2001 Issue No.556 Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875 Current issue | Previous issue | Site map Backroom diplomacy and street violence While the streets of Peshawar are wracked by virulent anti-US protests, the Pakistani city is playing host to scores of secret meetings that are likely to determine the shape of the future government in Kabul, reports Khaled Dawoud Since the former Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in 1979, the Pakistani border city of Peshawar has been the city most affected by developments taking place in its war-torn neighbour. Out of the more than 2.5 million Afghan refugees who fled to Pakistan over the past two decades, over one million have settled in Peshawar, which, at an hour's drive from the border, is the major Pakistani city closest to the Afghan capital, Kabul. This city of five million people, which has a strong rural character, was also the last transit stop for thousands of young Arab and Muslim militants from throughout the world before they entered Afghanistan to take part in the US-funded war against the former Soviet Union. Accordingly, extremist Islamist parties and groups in Pakistan wield considerable influence in Peshawar, and the city has witnessed some of the most violent anti-US protests since the US initiated its military campaign ag ainst Afghanistan nearly two weeks ago. Armoured vehicles and trucks carrying Pakistani army soldiers have established a foreboding presence on the main streets of the overcrowded and largely impoverished city. Pakistani forces are taking stringent security measures to quell anti-US violence in the city of Quetta in Baluchistan province, also bordering Afghanistan and the closest Pakistani urban centre to the Taliban's headquarters in Kan dahar. Pashtun tribes -- of the same ethnic origin as the ruling Taliban and half of Afghanistan's population, and living along the border near Peshawar -- have also been staging heated protests in which they brandished their we apons and announced the recruitment of thousands of young men to join the war alongside the Taliban against the United States. The tribal area is untouched by Pakistani law and governed only by tribal codes of honour, u nder which the most important rule is to provide unconditional support to members of the same tribe. Yet, extremely tight security measures were also in evidence outside the luxurious villa of Commander Abdel-Haq, a former Afghan warlord who took part in the war against the Russians, but later disagreed with the Taliban and fled to Peshawar. When Al-Ahram Weekly tried to meet Abdel-Haq in Peshawar, his assistant, Abdel- Rehim Zalmai, who speaks fluent English, apologised, saying that Abdel-Haq had meetings with dozens of people who came from Afghanistan to s ee him. Added to this startling revelation, Zalmai said Abdel-Haq's appointment agenda included meetings with Japan's ambassador and French diplomats. He added that since it became clear to exiled anti- Taliban Afghan groups that the days of the extremist regime were numbered, many similar meetings have been taking place. According to informed Pakistani sources, intensive secret contacts that enjoy the backing of President Pervez Musharraf's government are being conducted by the former Pashtun commander to determine the nature of a post- T aliban government in Afghanistan. Abdel-Haq is a key figure in the Assembly for Peace and National Unity of Afghanistan (APNUA). The leader of this group, Pir Syed Ahmed Gillani, is a powerful religious leader. He left on Saturday for Rome to hold talks w ith former Afghan King Zaher Shah. The United States, the United Nations and Pakistan have circulated the 86-year-old monarch's name as the possible leader of a post-Taliban government. Pakistani sources said, however, that Shah is not foreseen as the actu al future ruler of Afghanistan, but more as a symbol that could help unite the various Afghan factions. King Zaher Shah's Pashtun ethnicity is a key requirement for Pakistan to give its approval for any future leader of a government in Kabul. Other Afghan anti-Taliban groups fear that the king would not last for long due to his age, and that his son and family members would seek to restore the monarchy, which was toppled in 1973. Before his departure for Rome to meet the former king, APNUA leader Gillani renewed an appeal for unity among exiled Afghan groups. We are inviting all Afghans, whoever they are and wherever they may be, to come and disc uss the ongoing crisis and find ways to restore peace in their war-torn country. He added that he includes members of the ruling Taliban in his call, but only those committed to ending the violence that has left our cou ntry in ruins. Gillani said that there are those Taliban who find that their personal, spiritual and national duty is to stand with, not
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Al-Ahram Weekly
2 - 8 March 2000
Issue No. 471
Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875
Egypt
Region
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Opinion
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Focus
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Time Out
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Letters 'Albanian returnees' executed
By Jailan Halawi
Two leading figures in the militant organisation Jihad, Ahmed Ibrahim El-Naggar and
Ahmed Ismail Osman, were hanged last Thursday at a Cairo prison. Both, along with 10
others, had been extradited to Egypt by Albania in 1
998. The 12 were put on trial, along with 97 other Jihad members, before a military
tribunal last year in a case dubbed by the local press as the returnees from Albania.
El-Naggar, a key defendant in the case, was sentenced to life with hard labour, but
had been sentenced to death in absentia in October 1997 for his role in a 1995
conspiracy to blow up Cairo's historic Khan El-Khalili baz
aar.
Osman was sentenced to 15 years hard labour in the returnees from Albania case, but
had been sentenced to death in absentia in 1994 for ordering a failed assassination
attempt on then Prime Minister Atef Sidki.
A number of Jihad members are known to be close associates of Saudi dissident Osama
bin Laden, accused by the United States of masterminding the August 1998 twin bombings
of its embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Jihad, led
by Ayman El-Zawahri, joined the Front for the Liberation of Islamic Holy Sites set up
in February 1998 in Peshawar, Pakistan, under the leadership of bin Laden.
The confessions of the two prominent Jihad members helped authorities get a better
understanding of how the group is organised overseas, dismantle Jihad cells in Egypt
and arrest members infiltrating from abroad, security
sources said.
Although none of the defendants who faced the death penalty was accused of having
carried out attacks themselves, they were charged with having headed an organisation
whose aim was to thwart the working of state institut
ions and using terrorism to achieve its aims.
They were also accused of having set up paramilitary training camps and ordering
insurgency against the government, the tracking and assassination of public figures
and security officials and attacks on public and econom
ic institutions.
Jihad and Al-Gama'a Al-Islamiya have been fighting since 1992 to topple the government
and establish an Islamist state. More than 1,200 people have died in the insurgency,
mostly militants and policemen.
The number of clashes between security forces and militants has fallen steeply since
the November 1997 Luxor massacre which claimed the lives of 58 foreigners and four
Egyptians. The Ministry of Interior has stepped up se
curity measures in line with the preemptive strategy adopted by Interior Minister
Habib El-Adli. This strategy focuses on reining in terrorism while reintegrating
militants into society once they repent and are released
.
During the past two years, thousands of detained militants have been released, prison
conditions have been improved and detainees allowed more visits.
The Luxor carnage was followed by a cease-fire declaration from what could be
described as the moderate wing of Al-Gama'a's incarcerated leaders. This campaign
was spearheaded by lawyer Montasser El-Zayat who was detain
ed for seven months in 1995 for acting as Al-Gama'a's de facto spokesman. He and
others inside this wing maintain that violence has harmed the group and denied it the
benefits of public activities. The government had tole
rated the group before it took up arms in mid-1992.
Tough state security tactics appear to have broken the power of the
militant groups, whose leaders are mostly dead, in prison or on the
run. Many of the networks they once used to coordinate the flow of
orders, guns and money have folded.
We are now in a much better situation, a security source, speaking
on condition of anonymity, told Al-Ahram Weekly.
Contacts between the terrorists abroad and their followers at home
have been cut off almost completely and those hiding in Egypt have
been deprived of their sources of finance and arms. The expatriates
are constantly on the run and do not have the opportunity to
mastermind fresh attacks. However, we will remain alert because we
cannot trust terrorists or their declarations, the source said.
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Excerpted from: ERRI DAILY INTELLIGENCE REPORT-ERRI Risk
Assessment Services-Tuesday, April 20, 1999; Vol. 5 - 110, 10:32CDT
LEAD FOCUS
COUNTERTERRORISM ANALYSTS TAKE NOTE OF NEW THREATS FROM EGYPTIAN
TERRORIST GROUP
By Steve Macko, ERRI Risk Analyst
UNITED KINGDOM/EGYPT (EmergencyNet News) - This past weekend there
was a report of
interest in the Al-Quds Al-'Arabi newspaper that warned of plans for
a fundamentalist Muslim attack against United States and Persian Gulf
interests. ERRI analysts have several
