[CTRL] US Queers

2001-12-02 Thread Euphorian

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From WND

Seems like they're not unique in their views about their chosen
few.

Another article @
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25518

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Tuesday, November 27, 2001
Homosexual site advocates death of opponents
Reagan, Falwell, Dobson urged to 'die soon' a 'horrible death'
By Jon Dougherty
© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com
A radically pro-homosexual website has published a list of notable
people its creators hope will die soon because the activists and
lawmakers cited oppose the gay lifestyle.

The site, called usQueers.com, is similar to a pro-life website
that once published names and addresses of abortion doctors and
providers before being forced to pull its pages by a court after
being sued.

UsQueers.com says it is not anti-heterosexual, claiming it is merely a collection of 
gays, lesbi
ans, bisexuals, transgendered, intersexed, questioning and our supporters who are 
dedicated to a
mission of assisting wi
th the recognition, protection and defense of the rights to 'Life, Liberty and the 
Pursuit of Happi
ness' which belong to Queers. …

However, listed on one page are the names of several notable religious, cultural and 
political figu
res historically opposed to homosexuality that the group says it hopes will die soon 
… preferably
a horrible death.

usQueers.com does not authorize, ratify or directly threaten acts of violence toward 
the people or
 organizations on this list, said the site's creators. If a person on this list dies 
(preferably
a horrible death), a li
ne will be drawn through their name, and then the deceased will be added to the 
site's good ridda
nce list.
Included on the die soon list are:

Former President Ronald Reagan, who deserves to experience a horrible death soon and 
is getting wh
at he deserves, the latter a reference to Reagan's worsening Alzheimer's disease;
Donald E. Wildmon, president of the American Family Association;
Tim Wildmon, the AFA's vice president;
Sens. Strom Thurmond, R-S.C., and Jesse Helms, R-N.C.;
Pat Robertson, the anti-Christ, if there is one, according to the site;
James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family.
Paul Weyrich, founder of the Free Congress Foundationm is also listed, as is Rep. J.C. 
Watts, R-Okl
a., nationally known evangelist and WND columnist Rev. Jerry Falwell, and Gary Bauer, 
the former he
ad of the Family Resear
ch Council.
UsQueers.com mocks Reagan as it blames him for what site creators say was his lack of 
proper attent
ion to such issues as HIV/AIDS research and funding for drug treatment.

Ronald Reagan is personally responsible for the long and torturous deaths of hundreds 
of thousands
 of gay men in the USA from AIDS. Today, he can't remember not to go to the bathroom 
in his pants,
and he deserves worse,
 said the site.

We're listing him as wounded because the way he is dying is horrible (Alzheimer's) 
and irreversibl
e, even if he isn't aware of it anymore, and not soon enough we will happily add him 
to our 'Good R
iddance!' section, the
 site said.

Creators called Thurmond doddering, old and useless, and says is rotting to 
death while the
nation watches and laughs.

Helms, meanwhile, can't walk anymore, so he qualifies as being a bit wounded, but 
unfortunately, h
e is not suffering much, said site creators.

Rev. B. Allan Ross of San Diego – the officially designated spokesman and the only 
contact person l
isted for the site – refused an interview with WorldNetDaily.

Barring the unforseen (sic), we're not doing any more interviews with anybody about 
anything until
 next year, Ross said in his reply to an e-mail interview request. That page has 
been there since
 March without comment,
 by the way.

Site creators already may be anticipating a backlash from some of what they have 
published online b
ecause the site is billing itself as a news service doing online news reporting that 
no one else i
s doing.

As journalists, creators said in the site's About Us section, if it ever comes 
down to a court
 order to reveal anonymous sources, we will reluctantly go to jail to protect our 
right to practice
 our art without interf
erence or restrictions, rather than break our word to keep such information 
confidential.

However, they added, we don't expect to be forced to reveal sources.

The usQueers.com site is similar to another website, Christian Gallery, publisher of 
the so-calle
d Nuremberg Files – which compared abortion doctors to Nuremberg defendants and also 
provided the
 names and addresses of
 those physicians, as well as their clinic and home addresses.

When physicians who appeared on the site's list were killed, the Christian Gallery 
site would put a
 line through their names. The site eventually garnered the attention of the Justice 
Department aft
er representatives of t
he American 

[CTRL] Another Sad Day

2001-12-02 Thread Steve

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Senseless killing continues. We need to find a way to eliminate this kind of
violent thinking, and the resulting destructive behaviors, while preserving
freedom and self-determination. This is a difficult proposition in the current
context. The problem is complex. What will the solution be, and how will our
society and civilizations change as a result of these tragic and sensless acts
of terrorism by religious extremists in the name of their God?

Steve


If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.
 -GW Bush during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on 12/18/2000.
As broadcast on CNN and available in transcript on their website
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html

Steve Wingate, Webmaster
ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES
http://www.anomalous-images.com

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[CTRL] Anyone seen Neil ?

2001-12-02 Thread Euphorian

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Former largess buys little sympathy
By Nancy Dunne and Peter Spiegel in Washington - Nov 29 2001 23:22:46
On Inauguration Day this year, no business leader seemed better
positioned politically than Kenneth Lay, Enron chairman and
significant financial backer of both Presidents Bush.
Mr Lay had supported George W. Bush to the tune of nearly $2m, first
when he ran for governor and later in his race for president. He was
a respected adviser on energy issues to both Mr Bush and Dick Cheney,
the vice-president.
But on Thursday, as the Enron empire lay in ruins, the White House
seemed in no way inclined to mount a rescue. Instead, Tom Daschle,
the Senate leader, said Congress would have to ask hard questions.
We certainly need to try to find answers to the questions involving
the collapse of Enron, said the South Dakota Democrat.
Like dozens of other members of Congress, Mr Daschle had been a
recipient of Enron's campaign largess, but in the end it bought the
company little sympathy. Some say Enron has been a force for good in
Washington, including Roger Ballantine, a former Clinton White House
official, who described the company as progressive and cutting-
edge.
Others have been less kind. They were ruthless. That's why they had
no friends when they were in trouble, said one investor.
Besides a possible congressional inquiry, Enron is still subject to a
Securities and Exchange Commission probe investigation, which is
looking at partnerships run by Andrew Fastow, Enron's ousted chief
financial officer.
You can be sure that we will investigate the situation thoroughly
but quickly, and if wrongdoing occurred, make sure that the people
who are responsible for that will answer, Harvey Pitt, SEC chairman,
said. yesterday.
The SEC began the probe last month, and it is believed to focus on
how Enron reported and accounted for the partnerships in its legally-
mandated financial disclosure statements.
Mr Pitt said one of the issues the Enron collapse has raised was the
extent to which corporations disclose to their shareholders
information that can have a material impact on what the shareholders
equitable investment and interest is in the corporation.
Enron has insisted Mr Fastow's dealings were legal and properly
disclosed, but experts familiar with the SEC probe have said
executives could face criminal charges. Mr Daschle's comments also
seem to suggest trouble ahead for electricity deregulation. A broad,
free market in electricity was vital to Enron's trading business, and
that is where Mr Lay wielded influence.
Few people noticed when Curtis Hebert, chairman of the Federal Energy
Regulatory Commission, appointed by Mr Bush, was replaced after six
months in office by Patrick Wood. , former head of the Texas public
utilities commission.
According to Mr Hebert, Mr Lay offered to back him against Mr Wood if
he would speed the creation of large regional transmission
organisations. , which would broaden the trading market. Mr Hebert
refused. He was soon replaced.
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JP Morgan Chase to face greater fallout from Enron
By Gary Silverman in New York - Nov 30 2001 23:05:14
JP Morgan Chase, a lender and adviser to Enron, could face greater
fallout from the energy company's collapse than first thought.
It was learned on Friday that JP Morgan Chase was also a investor in
companies that traded with Enron and could be hurt by its demise.
Bankers fear such secondary exposures could be significant because
Enron was such a big derivatives dealer.
The analyst who uncovered the investments in Enron's counterparties
said they also could raise questions about JP Morgan's role as an
adviser to Enron.
JP Morgan and Citigroup advised Enron in its efforts to sell itself
to Dynergy, a rival energy firm. The deal fell apart on Wednesday as
Enron's credit was downgraded.
Whose interest were they working on? said Charles Peabody, analyst
at Ventana Capital, a research boutique. There are natural conflicts
between the lending side, the advising side and the investing side.
JP Morgan said it has about $500m of unsecured exposure to Enron
entities, including loans, letters of credit and derivatives.
Another $400m of Enron loans are secured.
Securities and Exchange Commission filings also show that Enron
counterparties have ranked among the top 10 holdings of JP Morgan
Partners, the company's venture capital arm.
As of September 30, JP Morgan said it owned 6.4m shares, worth $97m,
in Encore Acquisition. Encore, an energy company, said on Thursday it
had paid Enron $1.8m for derivatives hedging its exposure to oil and
natural 

Re: [CTRL] State's Data Marketing

2001-12-02 Thread Jim Rarey



In most cases, however, a person would need at least one other piece of 
information -- suchas a bank account number or Social Security number 
-- to access a financial account.
Of course, that also becomes available once the federal mandate to the 
states that Social Security Numbers be shown on drivers' licenses is fully 
implemented The Attorney General in Michigan fought against that mandate in 
court and lost.

Jim Rarey

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Subject: [CTRL] State's Data Marketing
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way to clone?}}}BeginState sells birth data to Web 
site, raising ID theft fearsSACRAMENTO -- The birth records of more than 24 
million Californianshave been sold by the state and posted on the Internet, 
offering easyaccess to critical information needed to create fake 
identities.By logging onto a genealogy Web site, people can gain access to 
suchpersonal data as someone's place of birth and mother's maiden 
name,which can then potentially be used to access bank records and 
othersensitive material.While the sale of the database was legal, a 
leading state senator andexpert on privacy said Wednesday that she was 
``appalled'' by thenews and wanted to find ways to restrict access to such 
information.``The time has come for us to recognize that identity theft 
hasbecome a big problem,'' said state Sen. Jackie Speier, D-San 
Mateo.``The fact that this information is public should raise a red 
flag.''The ongoing war on terrorism has sparked a renewed nationwide 
debateover how to balance personal privacy and national security. Since 
theSept. 11 attacks, experts from Washington to San Jose have 
beendiscussing everything from a national identity card to 
extensivebackground checks for people who buy airline tickets.Concerns 
about false IDs were heightened by news that several of the alleged Sept. 11 
hijackers were able to get fake driver's licenses in Florida and Virginia. 
Several states have already started to tighten rules for getting driver's 
licenses.At a special hearing Wednesday on privacy, state leaders 
demonstrated how easy it is to get the building blocks for identity theft. Using 
the free genealogy Web site with the California birth information, a legislative 
aide typed in the name of California Attorney General Bill Lockyer and 
quickly came up with his mother's maiden name, along with the date and county of 
his birth.That could provide a thief with enough information to check 
Lockyer's bank accounts or get a new birth certificate, Speier said. In most 
cases, however, a person would need at least one other piece of information -- 
suchas a bank account number or Social Security number -- to access a 
financial account.Under current law, California sells birth and death 
records. The site, Rootsweb.com, claims to be the oldest and largest free 
genealogy Web site. The site lists 24.5 million California birth records and 9 
million death records from the state.One other state, Texas, has 
provided similar information to the company.Lea Brooks, a spokeswoman for 
the state Department of Health Services, said birth records from 1909 to 1995 
sell for about $900 and that just two people had bought the information in the 
past year. She could not identifythe buyers.California is one of just a 
few states that make birth certificates easily available, one privacy expert 
said.Making it more difficult to get that information seems both reasonable 
and necessary, said Jamie Love, director of the Consumer Project on Technology, 
a Washington, D.C.-based privacy protection group created by Ralph 
Nader.``If identity theft wasn't a problem, this wouldn't be a 
problem,'' he said. ``But, given the limited number of data points that banks 
and other institutions ask for before they grant access to your information, it 
seemslike this creates a problem.''Not everyone was as concerned about 
the database.State Sen. Debra Bowen, a Redondo Beach Democrat and member of 
theSenate Privacy Committee, said there was little evidence to 
suggestthat thieves are taking such information to create fake 
identities.Bowen said that the Internet site contains only basic information 
andthat anyone can legally get any California birth certificate 
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going down toget the birth certificate and using that fraudulently, what's 
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Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals help syphilis comeback/stuns officials

2001-12-02 Thread dig Lola Fox

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In a message dated 11/30/01 0:38:46 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 History shows that the rise of and acceptance of homosexuality always
occurs, without exception, just befor
 e a nation is destroyed.
 Homosexuality is the terminal cancer of any nation. 


Wait - a few e-mails back you said exactly the same thing about the pagans

You're an idiot.

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[CTRL] Police State: Brink of Destruction

2001-12-02 Thread THe eXTReMiST

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November 30, 2001

Dear Newswatch Magazine Listeners/Readers:
The September 11, 2001 terrorist attack upon the United States was a terrible crime 
against our nation. Those who are working for a One-World-Government look for 
opportunities to use crises to further their aims and purposes. Legislators rush to 
pass Laws that they say are designed to protect America from future terrorist attacks. 
One such Law has now been passed with only three no votes. The short name for it is 
the USA PATRIOT ACT. Critics, on both the left and right politically, are saying the 
Act does nothing to secure our nation from terrorist attacks, but it only STRIPS 
Americans of fundamental Constitutional rights. THEY SAY IT HAS SET THE STAGE FOR A 
POLICE STATE IN AMERICA.

Representative Ron Paul from Texas is one of the three who voted against it. WHY? He 
claims the Act is a wholesale abrogation of civil liberties and totally 
unconstitutional. Ron Paul revealed that this monumental act of congress was not 
printed and a copy delivered to each congressman BEFORE it was introduced to be voted 
upon. No one knew WHAT was inside the pages of it. Only those who wrote it knew the 
true ramifications of the Act. He reported that the committee stonewalled as to what 
the contents of the Act was - yet it was passed!!!

Ron Paul said the worst part of the antiterrorism bill is the increased ability of the 
federal government to commit surveillance on all of us without proper search warrants. 
He referred to Section 213 which allows police to avoid giving prior warning when 
searches of personal property are conducted. This totally eliminates OUR Fourth 
Amendment rights against unreasonable searches and seizures.

I, Editor of Newswatch Magazine, have said for years that their plan is to erode the 
constitution piece-by-piece until we have a police state. The Fourth Amendment states: 
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, 
against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall NOT be violated; and no warrants 
shall issue, BUT UPON PROBABLE CAUSE, supported by oath or affirmation, and 
particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be 
seized. Ron Paul says the new Law clearly authorizes illegal search and seizure. Our 
founding fathers rebelled against the British government for less.

Representative Bernie Sanders from Vermont is an independent. He voted against the Act 
also because: I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United 
States, and I'm concerned that by voting for this legislation fundamentally violates 
that oath. And the full contents of the legislation have no been subjected to serious 
hearings and searching examination.

Representative C. L. Otter [R-Idaho], one of the three who voted against the Act, 
found the legislation unconstitutional and said he knew the provision would be a 
problem. Section 215 authorizes the FBI to confiscate any business records by order of 
A SECRET U.S. COURT. The person searched is FORBIDDEN from telling any person that he 
has received such a request [to be searched]. This is a violation of the First 
Amendment right to free speech and the Fourth Amendment protection of private 
property. Otter said that some of these provisions place more power in the hands of 
law enforcers than our Founding Fathers could have dreamt and severely compromises the 
civil liberties of law abiding Americans. This bill…is rife with constitutional 
INFRINGEMENTS I could not support.

America - we are on the brink of destruction as a nation the way we have known it.

Sincerely,
David J. Smith
http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/
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If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the 
dictator.
-George W. Bush,  The man who has out-Clintoned Clinton.

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Re: [CTRL] Strieber intelligence

2001-12-02 Thread Samantha L.

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  There's an unofficial Whitley Strieber website that has info on Strieber's
books (including book jacket info) and interviews.

http://www.beyondcommunion.com/

  In the text for the book jacket on The Hunger it says, He has traveled
through many parts of the world, working in fields as diverse as intelligence
and filmmaking.  (Synopsis courtesy of William Morrow  Company, Inc.)

  Whitley has been defending himself against accusations that he works/worked
for intel for years, but this book jacket bio has been at the Beyond
Communion site for a very long time.  What's so funny is that only recently
has there been a disclaimer added to this synopsis:

[This bio, from the first edition of The Hunger was not written by Whitley
Strieber. According to the author, the publisher sensationalized some parts
of his life in this bio, particularly the part about having worked in fields
as diverse as intelligence...]

  To prove that this disclaimer was only a recent addition, I looked up
beyondcommunion.com at archive.org.  Sure enough, there was no such
disclaimer  as recently as the July 22, 2001 archived site.  The next archive
date was Sept. 24, 2001, and there it is.  What a hoot - a how about that
timing?

  For the July 22, 2001 archive, go to:

  http://web.archive.org/web/20010722184842/http://www.beyondcommunion.com/

  scroll down to The Wolfen, The Hunger, Black Magic, Night Church and
click on it - it can be seen sans disclaimer under The Hunger section.

  For the Sept. 24, 2001 archive, go to:

  http://web.archive.org/web/20010924021037/http://www.beyondcommunion.com/

  and do the same as above - and Whoop! there it is.  LOL.

Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals help syphilis comeback/stuns officials

2001-12-02 Thread THe eXTReMiST

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At 08:51 AM 12/2/01 , diggy wrote:
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In a message dated 11/30/01 0:38:46 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 History shows that the rise of and acceptance of homosexuality always
occurs, without exception, just befor
  e a nation is destroyed.
  Homosexuality is the terminal cancer of any nation. 


Wait - a few e-mails back you said exactly the same thing about the pagans

You're an idiot.

Wrong, my exact quote was:
Popular paganism and modern churchianity are just different flavors of the same 
product.  And history shows a direct correlation between paganism and the fall of 
nations.  As a nation becomes paganized, it becomes more corrupt, the people become 
more decadent and unjust, and ends up destroying itself from the inside and then 
gobbled up by it's enemies.  Can't think of one exception. And the unseen powers that 
be ( the illuminati, international bankers, etc.), love both churchianity and 
pagans, because they are easy to herd and control through lies.

Now that's the third time you have missed the point.
I may be an idiot but you're dense as a rock.
---
-THe eXTReMiST
And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: 'Hearing you will hear 
and shall not understand, And seeing you will see and not perceive; For the hearts of 
this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, And their eyes they have 
closed, Lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, Lest they 
should understand with their hearts and turn, So that I should heal them.'
-Matthew 13:14-15

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[CTRL] Fw: Fw: [CTRL] Ariel Sharon, Architect of 9-11?

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Kalivas

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I followed up on the quote below. A friend of mine is a NY Policeman and I
forwarded the quote about Giuliani. My friend's comments are below. Just
wanted to get a local's take on it. Hope this is helpful


  And Giuliani this sick twisted man - counts body parts - 180 body parts
  he said.while placing police and firemen in jail for protesting
  their brothers being scooped up and placed in dumpsters AFTER they
  reached the load of gold?


 There was an incident several weeks ago when the FD announced they
were going to cut back the personnel digging at Ground Zero. The FD
demonstrated, and it got ugly, to the point of a few hitting the police.
These guys did go to jail. While there is some heavy machinery scooping up
the rubble and putting it into dump trucks, along with any human remains, it
is all carted to a land fill in Staten Island where it is gone through by
police and firemen with rakes to recover any parts, rather a grisly bit of
work, I haven't been there but others I know have.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [AL-AWDA-News] ACT NOW! CALL, FAX EMAIL: DEMAND SHARON BE BROUGHT TO J...

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Department today, to express concern about Israeli Prime Minister Ariel
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bringing him to justice on charges of war crimes and crimes against
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The United States actively supported indictments against former Yugoslav
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would be evidence of a gross double-standard and a signal that the United
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as they are committed by the leaders of friendly states.

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*The U.S. government should investigate and pursue evidence that Sharon is
responsible for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Such investigations
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ordered the deliberate bombardment of residential neighborhoods of Beirut,
Sidon and other cities in Lebanon during the Israeli invasion, killing
thousands of Lebanese and Palestinian civilians; directly ordered the siege
of west Beirut, deliberately depriving civilian residents of food, water,
safe passage and access to medical care; and that Sharon and other Israeli
officers and officials were responsible for arming, training and protecting
the perpetrators of the massacres of Palestinian and Lebanese refugees in
Sabra and Shatila camps in September 1982, including providing protection
and illumination so that the butchers could carry out their work more
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*These charges, if proven, would constitute grave breaches of the Fourth
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*Three decades earlier, as a young military officer, Sharon led an
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October 14, 1953, was perhaps the most notorious. According to Israeli
historian Avi Shlaim, Sharon's unit blew up 45 homes in the village,
killing 69 civilians, two-thirds of them women and children.

*Sharon has appointed to his government at least one minister who openly
espouses such crimes against humanity as forcing the entire Palestinian
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [AL-AWDA-News] ACT NOW! CALL, FAX EMAIL: DEMAND SHARON BE BROUGHT TO J...

2001-12-02 Thread Saba

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Well Bush should protect his Public Image for does  he want to go down
in history as in league with War Criminals?

Take a look at our friends in Afghanistan - women slaughtered, babies
murdered, men castrated - it seems this certain element always goes for
castration, just like this jewish Mafia - very notice in their history
they love to emasculate men?

So guess it runs in the family..Bush Leaguers?

Before it is all over with, well look what had been planned for the end
of September and then BOOM..but Larry Silverstein comes out with
SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS

The country was falliong, Silverstein had already bankrupted
once.and now neat and handy deal -

So Bush entertains the Slaughterman Ariel Sharon?   Well Woe to Ariel
and Bush..many eyes are on them and I don't just mean Texas.

Whatever happened to that bunch and the big meeting set in Washington -
where the fences six feet tall we placed in order to keep protesters
out?

How much did this cost us?   And for whom and for what?

So BOOM..Fiery Flying Serpents take on Godzilla and win?

Saba

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[CTRL] IT/Ginger revealed!

2001-12-02 Thread Kelly

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http://www.drudgereport.com/matt91j.htm

X DRUDGE REPORT X SUN DEC 02 2001 10:54:28 ET X

DEVELOPING: 'IT' REVEALED; 'SEGWAY' SELF-BALANCING PEOPLE MOVER

TIME MAG REVEALS INSIDE DETAILS OF WHAT INVENTION 'IT' IS

Award-winning Journalist John Heilemann Spent Three Months on Story for
TIME 'IT' UNVEILS THIS WEEK UNDER OFFICIAL NAME: SEGWAY

The Segway 'Will Be to the Car What the Car was to the Horse and Buggy,'
Inventor Dean Kamen tells TIME

'The Big Idea is to Put a Human Being into a System Where the Machine
Acts an Extension of your Body'

MORE

New York -- Dean Kamen's long-awaited, secret invention, the Segway
will be to the car what the car was to the horse and buggy, he tells
TIME on the eve of his product's unveiling.

Kamen imagines them everywhere: in parks and at Disneyland, on
battlefields and factory floors, but especially on downtown sidewalks
from Seattle to Shanghai. Cars are great for going long distances,
Kamen says, but it makes no sense at all for people in cities to use a
4,000-lb. piece of metal to haul their 150-lb asses around town.

In the future he envisions, cars will be banished from urban centers to
make room for millions of empowered pedestrians - empowered,
naturally, by Kamen's brainchild, reports John Heilemann in next week's
issue.

The invention is set to be unveiled Monday morning during ABC's GOOD
MORNING AMERICA.

MORE

The Segway is a self-balancing people mover - powered by batteries and
controlled by tilt-sensors and five solid state gyroscopes - that looks
like a rotary lawnmower. The magic is in the balancing act   no matter
how hard you try, it won't let you fall.

For the past three months, Kamen allowed TIME behind the veil of secrecy
as he and his team grappled with the questions that they will confront -
about everything from safety and pricing to the challenges of launching
a product with the country at war and the economy in recession.

There is no denying that the Segway, previously code-named IT and
Ginger, is an engineering marvel, reports Heilemann, who rode on the
machine many times. Developed at a cost of more than $100 million,
Kamenis vehicle is a complex bundle of hardware and software that mimics
the human bodys ability to maintain its balance. Not only does it have
no brakes, but also no engine, no throttle, no gearshift, and no
steering wheel. And it can carry the average rider for a full day,
nonstop, on only five cents' worth of electricity.

Kamen explains how the Segway works: When you walk, youire really in
what is called a controlled fall. You off-balance yourself, putting one
foot in front of the other and falling onto them over and over again. In
the same way, when you use a Segway, thereis a gyroscope that acts like
your inner ear, a computer that acts like your brain, motors that act
like your muscles, wheels that act like your feet. Suddenly, you feel
like you have on a pair of magic sneakers, and instead of falling
forward, you go sailing across the room.

As Kamen and his team were working on the IBOT wheelchair - a six-wheel
machine that goes up and down curbs, cruises effortlessly through sand
or gravel, and climbs stairs - it dawned on them that they were onto
something bigger. We realized we could build a device using very
similar technology that could impact how everybody gets around, he
says. The IBOT was also the source of Gingeris mysterious codename.
Watching the IBOT, we used to say, Look at that light, graceful robot,
dancing up the stairsi so we started referring to it as Fred Upstairs,
after Fred Astaire, Kamen recalls.

After we built Fred, it was only natural to name its smaller partner
Ginger. With Ginger, as with the IBOT, Kamen explains, the big idea is
to put a human being into a system where the machine acts an extension
of your body.

With the Segway, Kamen plans to change the world by changing how cities
are organized. To Kamenis way of thinking, the problem is the
automobile. Cities need cars like fish need bicycles, he says.
Segways, he believes, are ideal for downtown transportation. Unlike
cars, they are cheap, clean, efficient, maneuverable. Unlike bicycles,
they are designed specifically to be pedestrian friendly. A bike is too
slow and light to mix with trucks in the street but too large and fast
to mix with pedestrians on the sidewalk, he argues. Our machine is
compatible with the sidewalk. If a Segway hits you, it is like being hit
by another pedestrian.

Ordinary consumers won't be able to buy Segways for at least a year, a
consumer model is expected to go on sale for about $3,000, Heilemann
reports. For now, the first customers will be deep-pocketed institutions
such as the U.S. Postal Service and General Electric, the National Parks
Service and Amazon.com  institutions capable of shelling out $8,000
apiece for industrial-strength models.

TIME also takes a hard look at the question of whether this product will
really make it in the consumer market. The consumer 

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Fw: [CTRL] Ariel Sharon, Architect of 9-11?

2001-12-02 Thread Saba

-Caveat Lector-

So Bill the day they cut back was when they pulled out the truck loaded
with gold, and it took two Brinks trucks to unload which made me wonder
- whose and what truck was this upon which the Twin Tower landed?

Further my son returned from New York and said he visited to site - not
right on it but the stench is in the air...he hopes he does not have
to go back too soon.

Further this plane crash Globe carried an article just picked it up
where they believe somebody messed with the bolts on the engines of the
planes for they may have been loosened and this ship had been gone over
by mechanics, the night before.

So yesterday I had put out on the web story about the racketeering
involved selling inferior bolts and materials to certain Airlines which
were causing crashes way back in 1996, believe it was dated.

So a big plane comes down in Queens and oh how they close this one up.

They have introduced and pushed the enemy within...but yet the call
is to come to New York to see the shows?

Tell me did this guy mention the stench from burning flesh 

My son returned last week and this guy likes to have fun..but it
would take years before he would return to New York - so back to
Paradise Island, I presume.

What I cannot forget is the day after this demolition with burning flesh
smouldering at the botton of the Twin Towers - Larry Silverstein already
had plans on his drawing board for new Twin Towers or maybe 4 - this man
who held the 99 year lease?   Herein lay the truth of the
matterfurther Giuliani - in 7 World Trade Center with CIA and
Silverstein?

Well over the world people begin to believe it was CIA and Mossad that
pulled this off - but the word is MAFIA MAFIA MAFIA.so they call
Osama the Contractor and out of Afghanistan came the killers?

This was all home grown stuff and for over two years people have
questioned the activity of foreign agents and intruders and military
invading this Country?

So go to Queens and see that mess - they got off pretty lucky at
that...

The start checking pedigress and find who are saying they are Muslims
and are not?

The pictures I saw on these terrorists - well speaks for itself, from
Kenya, Tanzinia, but we slaughter people in Afghanistan?

How did they know there was a gold truck caught under the rubble?
Whose gold was it.why was it not in a Brinks truck...was their a
heist at the bottom of the Center for billions of gold down there and
most of it Saudi gold.what about this FBI agent who went to work for
Silverstein who had lost briefcase containing TUNNELS UNDER THE WORLD
TRADE CENTER..where the gold was.and part of their terrorism
program.

What about that plane in Queens..oh so unfortunate - more living
burnt sacrifices.a plane dropping big engines like hailstones from
the sky?

It will get worse - for Sharon was here yeser and left chaos for
Jerusalemthat guy is already described as the Slaughterman and he
sets such a nice stage

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] I play chess ...

2001-12-02 Thread Saba

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Wondered how anybody could sit through a chess game and enjoy it on TV
for example...this item explains Bobby Fischer a little better - this
man is a genius and had jewish mother?Or does he just know how to
make a fast buck when need be - while others lay in wait to steal and
claim his ideas for their very own profitting from same big time?


So sounds like Bobby victim of say like a 109th Psam conspiracy...as
a jew who is not so jewish anymore - well takes one to know one for they
have blotted this man's nae out of the book

Saba


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Bobby Fischer interview no 9
Report on Radio Bombo interview (18 Sep 2000) by Vincent Cabreza, source
below.
BAGUIO'S BEST-KEPT SECRET

The enigma that is Bobby Fischer
MANONG Andres, 58, a retired Ibaloi miner, said he spends hours of
pawn-baiting at a local grove in the center of Baguio City called the
Igorot Garden, retracing the chess moves he picked up from Bobby
Fischer's 1970 classic ''My 60 Memorable Games.''

Manong Andres belongs to the Garden's daily huddle of retired Ibalois,
hyperactive Ilocano and Tagalog vendors, street-smart students and bored
jeepney drivers who pit their skills every morning in non-stop street
chess tournaments in the city.

But he said he could never get his Fischer right. Here's one reason why:

The irrepressible Fischer, the most celebrated world chess champion and
a self-styled American outlaw, surfaced in Baguio recently to denounce a
conspiracy between the US government and the international Jewish
community for stealing and tainting some of his best chess ideas.

In a Sept. 18 broadcast over Bombo Radyo Philippines, Fischer cited key
trademark violations by a CD-ROM producer who had effectively stolen his
name, and crucified the faulty editing of new editions of his
best-selling chess books, including ''My 60 Most Memorable Games.''
Fischer had been enumerating page-by-page alterations of his original
chess manuscripts and their new editions over Philippine public radio
since 1999.Because of these changes, Fischer said the world had been
receiving tainted ''Fischer concepts'' in the last few years.
But that wasn't all.
Copyright infringement

Fischer said he was a victim of international corporations that stole
his own name for a series of sports merchandises.

''Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess'' has become a trademark of Time-Lerner
International, and is currently selling as a CD-ROM. Fischer turned to
the Internet to launch his new chess variant called FischeRandom, partly
to escape corporate intervention. Most of these copyright infringement
cases were opportunities opened up by Fischer's fugitive status.

A Sept. 1, 1992 rematch between Fischer and East European chess champion
Boris Spassky earned unusual media attention when Fischer announced that
he had become a US fugitive for rebuking a US Treasury directive
supporting United Nations sanctions against war-torn Yugoslavia.

Yugoslavia was his first media presentation since he retired 20 years
ago. He surfaced in Sveti Stefan, Yugoslavia, for a rematch with
Spassky.
Their first match in Mar del Plata, Argentina, in 1960 bought them a tie
for first place.

Fischer was immediately indicted by the US federal government in
December 1992, and had been on a self-imposed exile in defiance of the
Bush administration.

For nearly nine years, Fischer had turned into a mythical self-creation,
shunned by most of the Western world because of his radical fight
against everything Jewish. But he had always been Baguio City's
best-kept secret.

Chess-happy Baguio dwellers often spin rumors of secluded chess matches
with Fischer. Some stories place him huddled with the likes of Manong
Andres and other Ibaloi retirees, making magical moves on chess boards
engraved on park benches.

But not a single park dweller could describe the legendary chess
champion. None has reviled him for his hard-core hostility against the
international Jewish community. Fischer himself portrayed this one
Filipino character as a disappointment.

Broadcasting his anti-Jewish sentiments, Fischer pulled back to praise
the Filipino media's forthright perspectives about the world. But he
later mused about the Filipinos' inability to appreciate the grand
Jewish conspiracy he preaches regularly over Baguio radio.

It's a Jewish conspiracy that Fischer predicts would soon engulf the
Philippines, through ''Jewish-sponsored'' corporations.

This statement immediately attaches itself to activist attacks against
gene mapping--a serious political issue in a region dominated by
indigenous Filipinos.
Pablo Mercado, Bombo Radyo manager in Baguio, suggested the connection
to Fischer during the radio station's most recent broadcast.

He asked Fischer to comment on speculations that a series of
gene-mapping activities by Europe were dedicated to patenting the human
genome signature of the Ifugaos and other indigenous peoples of the
region.

This matter 

[CTRL] U.S. Citizens Could Be Tried By Military Tribunals

2001-12-02 Thread William Shannon
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1002,155%257E243420,00.html



What about evidence?

By Reggie Rivers
Denver Post columnist

 Thursday, November 29, 2001 - U.S. citizens could be tried in military tribunals.

That's not part of President Bush's current executive order - which gives him the power to hand any non-citizen over to the Department of Defense for a quick trial and execution - but the Supreme Court's oft-cited 1942 Quirin decision clearly states that citizens are fair game.

Quirin was the World War II case in which the Supreme Court ruled that eight German saboteurs, who entered the United States illegally with illegal weapons, intent on destroying military targets, could be prosecuted in tribunals.

According to the international law of war, lawful combatants are soldiers in uniform fighting for their respective militaries, and unlawful combatants are people not in uniform who sneak into the opposing territory to wreak havoc.

With regard to unlawful combatants, the Supreme Court's Quirin opinion reads in part: "The spy who secretly and without uniform passes the military lines of a belligerent in time of war, seeking to gather military information and communicate it to the enemy, or an enemy combatant who without uniform comes secretly through the lines for the purpose of waging war by destruction of life or property are familiar examples of belligerents who are generally deemed not to be entitled to the status of prisoner of war, but to be offenders against the law of war subject to trial and punishment by military tribunals."

The court went on to state that citizenship is no barrier to military commissions. The justices wrote: "Citizenship in the United States of an enemy belligerent does not relieve him from the consequences of a belligerency which is unlawful because in violation of the law of war. Citizens who associate themselves with the military arm of the enemy government, and with its aid, guidance and direction enter this country bent on hostile acts, are enemy belligerents within the meaning of the Hague Convention and the law of war."

It may be easy to support the use of tribunals when they're aimed at non-citizens, whose rights we seem eager to throw away, but what if all of us lost the guarantee of a fair trial? Significantly, the president's order gives him sole authority to decide who is or who is not the enemy.

That's a departure from the Quirin decision. In 1942, the question before the court was whether the men should be tried in civilian court or by military tribunal. The government presented a great deal of evidence to prove that the men were indeed enemy agents.

The opinion reads: "The following facts appear from the petitions or are stipulated. Except as noted they are undisputed." The justices then begin a recitation of facts, including that all eight men were born in Germany; seven were admittedly members of the German Reich, with which the United States was at war.

All attended a sabotage school near Berlin and were instructed in the use of explosives and secret writing. They were delivered to the United States in two submarines. They were wearing German Marine Infantry uniforms carrying explosives, fuses and incendiary and timing devices. Immediately after arriving, they discarded their uniforms, buried their weapons and traveled farther into the country. All received instructions from an officer in the German High Command to destroy war industries and war facilities in the United States.

The court ruled that, based on "the admitted facts," the trial of these men was clearly within the jurisdiction of the military commission.

Shouldn't that be the model we use now? The government should be required to go to federal court to prove that the suspect is an enemy agent. If the proof is compelling, the court can hand that person over to the department of defense for trial by military tribunal. But, at the very least, shouldn't we require evidence?




[CTRL] Secret US plan for Iraq war

2001-12-02 Thread William Shannon
http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,610461,00.html



Secret US plan for Iraq war

Bush orders backing for rebels to topple Saddam


Peter Beaumont, Ed Vulliamy and Paul Beaver
Sunday December 2, 2001
The Observer

America intends to depose Saddam Hussein by giving armed support to Iraqi opposition forces across the country, The Observer has learnt.

President George W. Bush has ordered the CIA and his senior military commanders to draw up detailed plans for a military operation that could begin within months.

The plan, opposed by Tony Blair and other European Union leaders, threatens to blow apart the increasingly shaky international consensus behind the US-led 'war on terrorism'.

It envisages a combined operation with US bombers targeting key military installations while US forces assist opposition groups in the North and South of the country in a stage-managed uprising. One version of the plan would have US forces fighting on the ground.

Despite US suspicions of Iraqi involvement in the 11 September attacks, the trigger for any attack, sources say, would be the anticipated refusal of Iraq to resubmit to inspections for weapons of mass destruction under the United Nations sanctions imposed after the Gulf war.

According to the sources, the planning is being undertaken under the auspices of a the US Central Command at McDill air force base in Tampa, Florida, commanded by General Tommy Franks, who is leading the war against Afghanistan.

Another key player is understood to be former CIA director James Woolsey. Sources say Woolsey was sent to London by the hawkish Deputy Defence Secretary, Paul Wolfowitz, soon after 11 September to ask Iraqi opposition groups if they would participate in an uprising if there was US military support.

The New York Times yesterday quoted a senior administration official who admitted that Bush's aides were looking at options that involved strengthening groups that opposed Saddam. Richard Armitage, the Deputy Secretary of State, said that action against Iraq was not imminent, but would come at a 'place and time of our choosing'.

Washington has been told by its allies that evidence it has presented of an Iraqi link to 11 September is at best circumstantial. However, US proponents of extending the war believe they can make the case for hitting Saddam's regime over its plan to produce weapons of mass destruction.

A European diplomat said last week: 'In the past week the Americans have shut up about Iraqi links to 11 September and have been talking a lot more about their weapons programme.'

The US is believed to be planning to exploit existing UN resolutions on Iraqi weapons programmes to set the action off.

Under the pre-existing 'red lines' for military action against Iraq - set down by Washington and London after the Gulf War - evidence of any credible threat from weapons of mass destruction would be regarded as sufficient to launch military strikes along the lines of Operation Desert Fox in 1998, when allied planes made large-scale strikes against suspected Iraqi weapons complexes.

Opposition by Blair and French President Jacques Chirac may not be enough to dissuade the Americans. One European military source who recently returned from General Franks's headquarters in Florida said: 'The Americans are walking on water. They think they can do anything at the moment and there is bloody nothing Tony [Blair] can do about it.'

Bush is said to have issued instructions about the proposals, which are now at a detailed stage, to his Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, three weeks ago. But Pentagon sources say that a plan for attacking Iraq was developed by the time Bush's order was sent to the Pentagon, drawn up by Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, chairman of the joint chiefs General Richard Myers, and Franks.

The plan is to work with a combination of three political forces: Kurdish rebels in the north of Iraq, radical Sunni Muslim groups in and around Baghdad, and, most controversially, the Shia opposition in the south.

The most adventurous ingredient in the anti-Iraqi proposal is the use of US ground troops, Pentagon sources say. 'Significant numbers' of ground troops could also be called on in the early stages of any rebellion to guard oil fields around the Shia port of Basra in southern Iraq.






[CTRL] Fwd: THE BUDDHA, THE GOLD, THE MYTH

2001-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan



---BeginMessage---


Hi Kris:

Thanks for sending this.  McDougal is a former US Spec Forces guy who was
personally involved in the recovery of the Fort Santiago stash in the
mid-Eighties.  He then wrote a book (Asian Loot) in which he artfully
propagated the myth that there was no Marcos gold.  He subsequently wrote
another book saying there was Marcos gold and a lot of it.  Not to be
trusted, I think.

regards

David




 McDougal, Charles. THE BUDDHA, THE GOLD,  THE MYTH. San Francisco: San
 Francisco Publishers, 1997. 211p. Notes. Bibliography. Index.
 Softcover
 $ 24.50
 Finally there is a book that exposes the truth about one of the greatest
 myths ever perpetrated on the Filipino and is still being perpetrated
today.
 from the book's back cover.


 ?

 Om
 K



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[CTRL] Report-Over 50 American Soldiers killed during Botched Attack on Helmand

2001-12-02 Thread William Shannon
http://66.96.205.195/~azzam/afghan/news/news.php?id=21



02 December 2001 : Over 50 American Soldiers killed during Botched Attack on Helmand

A large number of American troops backed by tanks and helicopters, launched a new attack on the 'strategic' city of Helmand. The Mujahideen awaited them patiently, and at the right time ambushed them using heavy artillery, BM rockets and ZSU-23 Anti-Aircraft guns in the area of Koumalk, south of Helmand, close to the River Douistan .

As a result of this offensive by the Mujahideen, around 80 US soldiers were killed, three tanks belonging to the United Nations (but used by the US) were destroyed, and two American Apache AH-64 helicopters were brought down, killing all occupants. All praise be to Allah who grants these victories.

A number of Mujahideen were injured during the attack, but were taken back to their base for treatment, along with significant hi-tech spoils of war. The whole operation was filmed and the video will be soon be made public insha-Allah to prove to the whole world, and especially the American people, the truth about the Afghan Jihad and the lies spread by the US government.

In a separate incident Saturday, the Mujahideen shot down an American warplane near Kandahar airport. As expected, this news was denied by the Pentagon, since American soldiers are never killed in combat, nor do they ever lose any aeroplanes nor equipment nor vehicles. The thousands of American soldiers killed in Vietnam was a myth.

The CIA continues to assist drug barons and highwaymen in order to cause disorder and try to destabilise the Taliban between Spin Boldak and Kandahar. The Taliban launched an attack around the mountain areas of Spin Boldak to crush this US-supported militia. Following the attack, approximately 100 of the enemy (composed mainly of drug dealers and highway robbers) as well as 17 of their US military 'advisors' were killed. These advisors organize the aerial cover and plan the militia's ground operations.

The Taliban reconfirm that the town of Spin Boldak is still under their control and that all is well. The Taliban has also set up special patrols to pursue and engage the remaining militia who were fleeing to the mountains in the east.

Since the arrival of the Northern Alliance in areas previously held by the Taliban, poppy cultivation has been started again on a very large scale (confirmed by the UN) with the encouragement of Americans. This higlights the hypocrisy and lies against the Taliban, who were accused by the West, of still cultivating and profiting from the Poppy farms. However, the reality is that the Taliban had completely banned the cultivation of the crop, thereby reducing the country's production by nearly 95%, and it was America's beloved Northern Alliance who were responsible for all the remaining production and trade. This was even confirmed by the United Nations.

The Taliban reported that they had carried out a lightening attack against the American forces in Shandan, which resulted in the deaths of well over 100 American soldiers. More details on this will be provided soon insha-Allah.

Human Rights 'Respected' in Mazar-i-Sharif

In the presence and auspices of American soldiers, the protectors of human rights, General Dostum walked over the bodies of the martyred Mujahideen in the prison fortress of Qala-e-Jhangi, while his soldiers drove tanks over their bodies to make sure they were dead. It is reported that an incredible number of rapes by his soldiers took place, also under the observation of US troops. These uncivilized soldiers were also seen by the whole world beating and shooting prisoners, kicking the bodies of the Mujahideen and even extracting the golden fillings from the mouths of Taliban who were martyred.

The soldiers of the Northern Alliance captured around 10 wives of the Foreign Mujahideen and raped them several times before making them slaves. These women were from families who had tried to cross over to Pakistan, but were prevented at the border by Pakistani troops under the orders of the US Government.

America and the whole world are accessories to these mutilations, massacres, rapes and mass injustices and owing to the fact that they are committed under their own eyes and protection. May Allah help all those who are oppressed.

The Mujahideen inform the people that they are well and remind the Muslims not to be deceived or depressed by reading the lies of the Western media. They ask all viewers to pass on the true information of the situation that they receive from the Internet, not to forget them and the people of Afghanistan in their duas and increase the duas against those who cause corruption and oppression on the Earth.





[CTRL] THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION THE MOST DANGEROUS, THUS FAR

2001-12-02 Thread William Shannon
http://www.centrexnews.com/columnists/skousen/2001/1123.html



THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION THE MOST DANGEROUS, THUS FAR 

by Joel Skousen
www.joelskousen.com 

WORLD AFFAIRS BRIEF
November 23, 2001
Copyright Joel M. Skousen
Partial Quotations with attribution permitted.

Cite source as Joel Skousen's World Affairs Brief (http://www.joelskousen.com).

[Excerpt] I never imagined that any US administration could surpass the egregious and treasonous acts of the Clinton administration. However, the Bush administration has not only failed to stop, overturn or dismantle any of the significant evil acts of the former administration, but it is continuing the cover-up of illegal government activities: e.g., surveillance without a warrant, withholding of crucial intelligence regarding national defense threats, corruption of evidence in ongoing investigations, money laundering, collusion with judges to imprison whistleblowers, and massive drug control and importation schemes to finance black budget operations. While most Bush administration advisors claim conservative leanings, in reality all belong to the same internationalist group (Council on Foreign Relations) to which advisors in previous administrations have belonged. This Council is dedicated to subtly eroding American sovereignty and even encouraging its demise, an objective hardly in line with its members' professed dedication to American values.

Why is the Bush administration more dangerous than the lawless corruption of the Clinton-Reno days? Simply because the current administration does it under the cover of an even bigger lie: that what they do is out of genuine love of country, duty to God, patriotism, and love of the Constitution. In short they claim to be God-fearing, constitutional conservatives, and nothing could be further from the truth. Each of these national leaders, including Bush, Cheney, Powell, and Ashcroft have agreed to follow a control agenda formulated by others who do not respect God, nor the Constitution, nor national sovereignty. This administration is dangerous because its lies are believable. Clinton's lies were not. 

The Bush administration is rapidly undermining many American constitutional rights, in the oft-repeated name of fighting terrorism. Local police forces are being corrupted into serving as federalized police under a variety of circumstances. Indeed, the administration is now openly talking about instituting a federal police force, under the aegis of "increased coordination." Bush all too willingly signed legislation federalizing airport security workers, even though he claimed to oppose it. The US is now in a continuous state of emergency, which justifies tremendous expansions of federal powers. Though Bush ostensibly champions religious liberty, the Justice Department has failed to intervene in the ongoing oppression of certain fundamentalist Christian churches in their battles with the IRS over improper tax control of churches. Verbiage is cheap and goes a long way toward keeping Christians thinking that they have one of their own in the White House. It's hard for most people to detect a lie when the person is telling them what they want to hear.

Speaking of lies, this administration is engaging in cover-ups that will exceed the Clinton record. Not only has Attorney General Ashcroft refused to prosecute any of the Clinton-Reno crimes, he has refused to even meet with those who have the evidence, in particular Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch and former Clinton impeachment prosecutor David Schippers, who is representing FBI agents who have evidence of official Justice Department suppression of evidence in the OKC bombing. There are other would-be whistle blowers who are also having no luck with justice. No conservative with crucial evidence on government wrongdoing has been able to gain meaningful access to the White House or the Justice Department in this, the supposed paragon of all conservative administrations. 

The Bush administration is also rapidly undermining our defense against strategic threats (Russia and China) while claiming to be building up our military forces. In fact, we are wasting our military stores in an interventionist war in Afghanistan that only superficially has anything to do with terrorism, and that primarily serves US and Russian oil interests and increases the number of countries that hate America. While a billion dollars a month goes down the drain in this war, the money we need to counter the more dangerous long term threats continues to diminish. Despite the propaganda, it isn't the tiny "rogue nations" with cobbled-together, second-rate weapons of mass destruction (WMD) that are the big threat--it's the two predator nations in the world that provide those rogue states with weapons and material on an ongoing basis. Not only do Russia and China continue to finance, train and feed terrorism (albeit through client states), but both of these nations are also building for a much larger future 

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Fw: [CTRL] Ariel Sharon, Architect of 9-11?

2001-12-02 Thread RevCOAL

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From: Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They have introduced and pushed the enemy within...but yet the call
is to come to New York to see the shows?

Tell me did this guy mention the stench from burning flesh 

First off, the 'stench' is due to ALL the materials that are burning, not
just any potential human flesh.

Secondly, the WTC center is MILES from midtown where Broadway is -- one
can't smell the burning WTC in midtown...


June

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: THE BUDDHA, THE GOLD, THE MYTH

2001-12-02 Thread Saba

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Ever hear story about the dead volcano where heliocopters were seen to
enter and emerge - is this where Marco's gold was stashed?

Now the Shah of Iran had a solid gold John and who the hell would want a
solid gold John - he probably had 1000's of Golden Johns and used a
different John each time he flew in?

Maybe many buddahs.   Buddah's from same mold..be nice way to get
into the import export business where all corruption lay in drugs and
the treasures of the world.

Years ago I was sent  saphire and emerald ring total 5 carats each -
stuffed in with some junk - worth big bucks today, but oh so easy to
smuggle gemstones into this country.

You find more of this stuff on Home Shopping including Mel Fischer's
gold sometimes than you do in the Diamond Cellar?

So many diamonds - so now our FBI traitors are paid in diamonds like
this Hannsen - KGB stuff and Israel has billoins in diamonds which they
do not mine?

From whence do these treasures come?   Poor South Africa why so poor -
the treasures of the world sitll lay under their feet.

But this is too much..strange the volcano looked like a huge
pyramid..something straight out of a James Bond movie?

Bet Mrs. Marcos with all those shoes, was it 2,000 pair - had heels of
gold?

Then we have the Columbian gold and big ships in the night landing at
private docks and landing strips in Florida 

But hey as my old MI6 friend said after threatened for exposing Big Ship
Rio (and that was my ship for I found out about it) - she was lectured
later by a deputy Sheriff, friend of hers about how they all knew about
this smuggling of Columbian Gold and worse - but it was necessary - and
suddenly poof - not too long before she died her last words to me were
I have brought trouble into my own housere my bible calendar
linked to drugs, murder, slaughter and sabotage - real heavy Mafia
stuff.

So much for Marcos gold.but what concrns me now is this gold at the
bottom of the World Trade Center.

You see if it has been stolen, which I think much of it was..it is
all insured - watch your insurance go up and not in smoke if this be
true..

the World Trade Center Caper and the gold, always the gold...7
billion to Silvrstein..but what about all that gold.

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[CTRL] Confound It

2001-12-02 Thread Euphorian

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From
Working For A Change (URL @ bottom)

}}}Begin
Confounding Carnivore
How to protect your online privacy
By Omar J. Pahati

AlterNet.org

11.30.01 |
Ever since the FBI confirmed the existence of their Internet
wiretapping device -- a device they named Carnivore -- cyberprivacy
activists have been up in arms. Carnivore promised to be their worst
nightmare: a technology that could track and record every email sent,
every Web page browsed, every chat room visited.
Today, those fears are more likely to come true than ever before. The
passage of anti-terrorism laws in the wake of Sept. 11, and the
extended powers of the FBI, CIA and police agencies everywhere, make
it likely that Carnivore will see more use in the near future.
Congress has been quite willing to trade some privacy for security,
and the Bush Administration -- especially Attorney General John
Ashcroft -- has been no defender of online privacy. With
Constitutional protections being chipped away, what can civil
liberties-minded citizens do to maintain their privacy online?
Though the technology behind the mysterious Carnivore box (officially
renamed DCS1000 in early 2001, though that name hasn't stuck) has
been portrayed as quite sophisticated, it's actually very simple.
When attached to se
rver computers at an Internet service provider (ISP), the device records the details 
of all traffic coming through that ISP. It can snatch email headers and content, and 
keep a history of Web pages accessed. This data can
 then be saved onto disk and admitted as evidence in court.
Similar devices have long been used in private enterprise, allowing cautious business 
administrators to monitor the Internet activity of employees. In network security 
circles, these devices are referred to as sniffers.

As common as this technology is, its potential uses give security specialists great 
power to track electronic communications. Sniffers can produce a list of Web sites 
visited so that ISPs can block access to sites deemed
questionable or subversive. Carnivore can also keep track of whom you send email to 
and who sends you email, shedding light on the company you keep and potentially tying 
you to activities you know nothing about. Aside fro
m these scary scenarios, the mere fact that someone is watching is disconcerting.
But before you panic about the government tracking those flirty emails you sent to a 
co-worker last year, consider that the FBI is reported to have used Carnivore only 13 
times between October 1999 and August 2000 (the la
test figures available). That's not very much, given the enormous amount of Web 
traffic. So the chances that Carnivore has been watching you are incredibly low -- 
you're much more likely to have been sniffed by your emplo
yer.
Nevertheless, with the passage of the USA Patriot Act, Carnivore's use is very likely 
to increase. In addition to committing unprecedented resources to security, the new 
law drops some of the checks and balances once requ
ired for getting permission to eavesdrop. Futhermore, rumors that Osama bin Laden has 
used encrypted messages, images, and Web sites to communicate with the global Al Qaeda 
network, and fears that unknown terrorists are u
sing the Web as a tool, has upped Carnivore's value in law enforcement's eyes. The FBI 
has even begun to enhance Carnivore, effectively broadening its net and fortifying its 
encroachment into once private sectors of cyber
space.
Cyber-libertarians determined to maintain anonymity have already found ways to 
circumvent Carnivore's watchful eyes. Most of the methods were developed by hackers to 
cover their tracks when engaging in questionable, somet
imes illegal activity. But these techniques work just as well for the law-abiding 
citizen who wishes to uphold the right to privacy. And thankfully, you don't have to 
be a hacker to use these tools effectively.
Controversial, but legal, encryption software has been publicly available for years. 
Encryption allows users to maintain a high level of secrecy when sending email or 
files over the Internet.
The most storied of encryption tools is a free program called PGP. PGP stands for 
Pretty Good Privacy, but it's a whole lot more than just pretty good. PGP is strong 
crypto, geek speak for encryption that is nearly impo
ssible to break. PGP is so strong that after releasing PGP to the public in 1991, 
Philip Zimmermann, the program's creator, drew immediate attention from federal 
prosecutors intent on preventing its distribution.
Zimmermann says, PGP empowers people to take their privacy into their own hands. 
There has been a growing social need for it. That's why I wrote it.
And that's why governments are so afraid of it. As a result, Zimmermann became the 
target of a three-year criminal investigation that questioned the legality of 
exporting PGP to users in other nations. But by 1996, the in
vestigation had produced no evidence of wrongdoing and PGP had become the most 

Re: [CTRL] It's Not Bush's Land to Give Away

2001-12-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 12/1/01 1:00:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

 Bush's decision to support Palestinian statehood can only be regarded as
 abject appeasement to Islamic terrorists. The grandfather of all modern-day
 terrorists is Yasser Arafat. For the Bush administration to promote making
 Arafat the president of his own country while at the same time sending
 American warriors to fight Osama Bin Laden is the height of hypocrisy. Such
 deluded thinking betrays logic not to mention our friends in Israel. 

I think Begin and Sharon might have had a slight headstart on Arafat, and if
not they certainly can be considered contemporaries in terrorism.  Our
friends in Israel are the same folks who fired on the Liberty.  Israel seems
to be a friend of the United States only when the US is following Israel's
directions to the letter.  Israel seems to be less a friend than a commander.
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Re: [CTRL] Fw: Fw: [CTRL] Ariel Sharon, Architect of 9-11?

2001-12-02 Thread Saba

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Well ask again, my son was there and the next time he said its Paradise
Island - he never wants to return to New York.

So go join the circus - but the thought of all those bodies somehow puts
a damper on anything you might call - well fun?

Planes dropping from the skies?

But come see the show - the circus is in town.

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] ARABS WON'T SAVE IRAQ FROM PREZ

2001-12-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 12/1/01 1:18:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 November 30, 2001 -- WASHINGTON - Team Bush yesterday signaled Arab
 objections won't stop the United States from acting against Iraq's Saddam
 Hussein if the president believes it's needed in the war on terror.
 The White House comments came after Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Maher met
 with Secretary of State Colin Powell and relayed Arab concerns about a
 possible U.S. strike against Iraq. 

Hey, Dubya is aching to bomb Iraq.  I've occasionally wondered if Hussein has
some kind of proof of something unsavory regarding Bush the First.  Maybe
it's just that Dubya likes to kill people in the name of Christ.  That's
happened before.  Wasn't he the one who called it a Crusade?  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Sharon to tell Bush: If Iraq attacks us, we will respond

2001-12-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 12/1/01 1:24:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Prime Minister Ariel Sharon leaves tonight for a five-day visit to the
 United States where he will reportedly tell President George W. Bush that
 should Saddam Hussein attack Israel after an American strike on Iraq, Israel
 would respond. 

What's wrong with that?  I expect any country that is attacked to
reciprocate.  Isn't that why we are bombing Afghanistan?  Hasn't the present
administration decided that Afghanistan is to blame for the WTC?  Israel has
every right to respond to an attack, and if I know Israel, we might see a
premptive strike.  Israel would love to loose its atomic weapons on Iraq.
Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals help syphilis comeback/stuns officials

2001-12-02 Thread Damaeus

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On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:13:52 -0500, in
news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, THe eXTReMiST
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 Wrong, my exact quote was:
 Popular paganism and modern churchianity are just different flavors
 of the same product.  And history shows a direct correlation between
 paganism and the fall of nations.  As a nation becomes paganized, it
 becomes more corrupt, the people become more decadent and unjust, and
 ends up destroying itself from the inside and then gobbled up by it's
 enemies.  Can't think of one exception.  And the unseen powers that be
 ( the illuminati, international bankers, etc.), love both
 churchianity and pagans, because they are easy to herd and control
 through lies.

 Now that's the third time you have missed the point.
 I may be an idiot but you're dense as a rock.

I can see you learned nothing from my earlier post in this thread.

Damaeus

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Re: [CTRL] Are we being watched?

2001-12-02 Thread Euphorian

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On 1 Dec 01, at 0:27, Steve wrote:

 I feel better, but it was recording since 11/24. Are we being
 watched?

Go here
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[CTRL] THE ENRON BLACK MAGIC, PART ONE

2001-12-02 Thread Steve

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THE ENRON BLACK MAGIC, PART ONE
by Sherman H. Skolnick 12/02/01
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In the often evil world of oil and natural gas, and other energy, they
became the seventh largest of the Fortune 500. What has happened to put
them as the largest of the No Fortune 100? How did they become, so far,
the biggest loser?

The real operators of Enron Corporation are, to some, great sorcerers.
They have waved their magic wand, and turned paper promises into black
gold and vice versa. Sort of latter day alchemists. Later in this series
we will explore the role of Dick Cheney and George W. Bush. Now just
look at some of the other names.

A Director of Enron has been Wendy Gramm, wife of U.S. Senator Phil
Gramm [R., Texas]. A former Professor, supposedly adept in economics and
banking, Senator Gramm has been the Chairman of the Senate Banking,
Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee, and  member of the Budget and the
Finance Committees. He has blocked laws against money laundering.
Convenient to the Enron mess, he decided ahead of time not to run for
re-election.

For some twelve years during the Reagan/Daddy Bush Administrations,
Wendy was Chairperson of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. As a
highly corrupt federal regulatory agency, CFTC wields  great power and
influence over markets, often little understood by commonAmericans.

Spreading out in the 1980s worldwide was the Bank of Credit and Commerce
International, BCCI. Some called them, with their hundreds of branches
round the world, the Bank of Crooks and Criminals International. They
were actually a huge money laundry for political assassination and dirty
tricks funding, as well as espionage proprietaries, for the American
CIA, British MI-6, French CIA, and The Mossad of Israel.
BCCI had or were planning some five branches in the U.S. For their U.S.
agenda, they needed to put the arm on the U.S. government. Elsewhere in
the world, BCCI had already honed the real world specialty of buying and
bribing public officials.

BCCI as a foreign entity not only dealt in secret transactions in
banking but were a highly mostly covert player on the world markets,
particularly the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, the Chicago Board of
Trade, and on markets such as LIFFE in London. Through six La Salle
Street brokers, BCCI bribed and blackmailed its way into the U.S. House
of Representatives and the U.S. Senate. Key law-makers were invited to
come to Chicago, all expenses paid, to supposedly give a speech for the
CME, or Merc as some call it, and the CBOT. While in the Windy City,
the law-makers were informed that their hosts, the market honchos, were
opening courtesy accounts for them. And, that they would be informed
of the good results that developed. In some instances, the so-called
courtesy account was not told to the Representatives and Senators, but
was set up in their name anyway as a blackmail device on the date of
their Chicago visit.

Through a hocus-pocus series of transactions, the Chicago accounts
showed a supposed loss while the London acounts showed a huge profit. In
the lingo of the markets, it was called a straddle. The Senators and
Congressmen themselves, or most often their known agents, from time to
time personally picked up the huge profits in London. On other
occasions, someone identifying themselves with credentials as their
known agents, likewise picked up the heavy profits from the courtesy
accounts, in the British money center. It was either a direct provable
bribery payment to the law-makers or verifiable record-kept blackmail.
Either way, twenty five per cent of both houses of the American
legislature were hooked.

By the time BCCI supposedly collapsed in the summer of 1991, some five
billion dollars had disappeared. It was used in great part to buy, that
is, to bribe, 28 U.S. Senators and 108 members of the U.S. House of
Representatives. The Bank of England, by a series of circumstances,
became the kingpin in supervising and overseeing the supposed demise of
BCCI. [BUT, see Foonote One, how BCCI rose from the ashes under another
name.]

Notice the strange happenings. For only thirty days, the Bank of England
had as an open record, the list of those bought and bribed, whether
directly or through the blackmail devices, of the legislative branch of
the U.S. Government. A major media correspondent got wind of this and
before secrecy was clamped on the records, got a copy of the entire list
of bribery/blackmail.

Part of one of the largest media operations worldwide, he went to his
media editor with the details. The editor was thunder-struck. Here was
documented proof that twenty five per cent of the House and Senate were
bribed. We cannot publish the list and the details that go with it,
the journalist was told. The media mogul added the obvious, It would
cause the scandal downfall of the American Government, as the
journalist later related the editor's statements to an
independent-minded confidant.


[CTRL] Oregon To Ashcroft: Get Lost

2001-12-02 Thread eric stewart


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Corvallis Police Refuse To Question Foreign Visitors

Corvallis Joins Portland Police

Posted: 11:42 a.m. PST November 29, 2001 Updated: 12:42 p.m. PST
November 29, 2001

PORTLAND, Ore. -- Portland police are no longer alone in their
refusal to interview foreign visitors as part of a federal terrorism
probe.

Corvallis police joined their Portland counterparts Wednesday, and
the Eugene police might soon follow suit.

The City of Eugene was awaiting its lawyers' advice before making
a decision.

Until Wednesday, Portland had been the only city in the nation to
refuse a request by the U.S. Department of Justice to participate
in the interviews, citing state privacy laws. As many as 5,000
foreign visitors will be questioned nationwide, some 200 of them
in Oregon.

Corvallis Police Chief Pam Roskowski believes the city's officers
can legally participate in the federal probe, according to a
statement released Wednesday.

However, Roskowski believes the city will be better served if
officers concentrate on criminal investigations rather than in
interviewing people on the federal list who are not criminal
suspects, police spokesman Lt. Paul Miller said in the statement.

It is incumbent on all law enforcement agencies to promote the
balance of protecting the community ... while preserving the freedoms
and civil liberties of all residents, the statement said.

Eugene police were waiting Wednesday for advice from city attorneys
before deciding whether to participate in the FBI interviews. Salem
police said federal agents have not yet asked them for help.

Give us some legitimate reason to talk to the people -- other than
that they're from the  Middle East -- and we'll be glad to,

said Pam Alejandere, a Eugene police spokeswoman.

Federal agents will likely question 23 foreign visitors in the
Portland area, the U.S. Attorney's office said Wednesday. Another
40 will be questioned in Eugene. About 30 people will be interviewed
in Corvallis.

The state attorney general on Tuesday said there is nothing in
Oregon law that prevents state investigators from helping with the
interviews, but Portland officials have a different interpretation.

City attorney Jeffrey Rogers said Wednesday a few of the Justice
Department's questions could violate state privacy laws protecting
people not accused of crimes.

Federal authorities want to question about 200 people in Oregon
who are in the state on student, work or tourist visas. All have
come to the state in the past two years from countries known to
harbor terrorists.

The people on Oregon's list will be questioned, one way or another,
said Kent Robinson, chief of the criminal division at the U.S.
Attorney's office in Portland.

The Oregonian newspaper obtained a partial list of the questions
federal agents instructed local police officers to ask as part of
the probe.

The paper identified three guidelines issued by federal authorities
that Portland city officials believe would violate state law if
posed during interviews.

They are:

You should obtain all telephone numbers used by an individual and
his family or close associates.  If he lives with others you
should inquire as to their identities. You should note  any
information that would assist us in locating the individual in the
future. You should inquire specifically whether he or anybody he
knows has ever visited Afghanistan.

Those were among the guidelines sent to U.S. Attorneys on Nov. 9
by U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, the newspaper said.

A group called the Portand Peaceful Response Coalition (PPRC) is
holding a march in support of the Portland police decision not to
take part in the questioning. The group plans to meet at Pioneer
Courthouse Square in downtown Portland at 5 p.m. Friday and will
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[CTRL] CNN, your coverage is incredible

2001-12-02 Thread eric stewart

don't forget, israel moved forces into palestine and
THEN this bombing occurred...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agentsmiley/message/1148

Israeli Terrorist Forces Invade Palestinian Cities

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Subject: CNN, your coverage is incredible


Dear CNN,

I was completely disgusted by your coverage of the attack that took place in
Jerusalem last night. At a particularly sensitive time, in which lives were
lost and many more were at stake, you allowed Mr. Netanyahu to spew racist
blood-thirsty hate and right-out lies as well as ridiculously comparing to
the Taliban, Palestinians living under a prolonged Israeli occupation
recognized by international law and community as illegitimate! CNN gave Mr.
Netanyahu, a self-admitted Jewish supremacist and right wing extremist and
fascist, by any standard, the forum to war monger with lies, to dehumanize
an entire people with full intent to cause more suffering and destroy any
hope for a just and lasting peace.

CNN, your coverage is uninformed, racist and totally unbalanced. It is often
disgusting. I am not aware of a single occasion in which you interrupted
your regularly scheduled programs to report extensively on even one of the
many daily attacks Palestinian men women and children suffer at the hands of
Israel's terrorist army and settlers, whether in the besieged refugee camps,
villages or cities behind the barbed wire. Even during your extended
coverage last night, you failed to report, give brief mention or simple
acknowledgement of the attacks Israel's terrorist army launched in the West
Bank and Gaza just hours prior to the Jerusalem attack! Why?

Alas, CNN is not a credible, reliable, professional and unprejudiced source
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[CTRL] Israel Turns Palestinian Towns into Prisons

2001-12-02 Thread eric stewart


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Israel Turns Palestinian Towns into Prisons

2 December 2001
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Israeli occupation authorities declared during the afternoon hours of 2
December, that all Palestinian civilians would be barred from exiting or
entering Palestinian-controlled areas. According to the Israeli media,
Palestinian traffic is not to leave any Palestinian-controlled area (area A)
or travel between area A and villages in areas B and C throughout the West
Bank. The move effectively turns every Palestinian population center, no
matter how large or small, into a prison.
Israeli media purports that the Israeli occupation authorities have stated
that travel exemptions would be permitted in humanitarian cases only.
However, such claims or announcements have been proven false on the ground
on numerous occasions, often leading to deaths and health complications of
Palestinian civilians in need of medical attention. The Israeli human rights
organization B'Tselem has previously condemned the Israeli occupation army
for obstructing Palestinian patients' passage to hospitals. According to
various Palestinian sources, these draconian measures, which contravene
international humanitarian law, have lead to at least thirty-three deaths of
kidney patients. They have also caused at least twenty-two cases of
miscarriages and labor at the various Israeli military checkpoints, in the
West Bank alone.
On 16 October, B'Tselem stated, The [Israeli occupation forces]
spokesperson has repeatedly stated that: The [Israeli occupation forces] has
regulations whose purpose is to ensure the passage of urgent medical cases
at roadblocks. The regulations may exist, but the soldiers at the roadblocks
have apparently not heard about them.

Earlier in the morning, Israeli occupation authorities sealed off all
passages, including the international crossing points between the West Bank
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[CTRL] bombings

2001-12-02 Thread iggy

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hi all,

Does anyone have a list of the contries that the USA/NATO has dropped
bombs on, and comitted militaty actions in, along with the dates?
mostly looking for the last twenty years, and the leaders, presidents
involved..
thx
iggy

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[CTRL] NOSTRADAMUS: Did Nostradamus Predictions include Osama Bin Laden? Find links to Nostrodamus, Nostradamus Predictions and Osama Bin Laden related web sites.

2001-12-02 Thread iggy


http://216.15.252.253/nostradamus-osama-bin-laden.html

Title: NOSTRADAMUS: Did Nostradamus Predictions include Osama Bin Laden? Find links to Nostrodamus, Nostradamus Predictions and Osama Bin Laden related web sites.





Did Nostradamus Predictions includereferences to Osama Bin Laden?





Did Nostradamus Predictions link Osama bin laden, the taliban, afghanistan, recent attack on america that include the world trade centre, the pentagon,have correlations with a number of nostradamus predictions? Are nostrodamus, nostradamus predictions and osama bin laden related? Recent events alleged against Osama Bin Laden, aka Bin Laden, appear to be linked to a number of nostradamus predictions. Note correlations between ecent terrorism at New York state, the twin towers of the World Trade Centre, the pentagon, etc., as well as the use of several american airlines as delivery systems targeted at not only the twin towers of the World Trade Center, New York, New York City (potentially empire state building), as well as the pentagon, White House, Camp David, Air Force One and the general american population through coordinated attacks untilizing the auspices of american airlines. Indeed, alleged actions perpetrated by a person fitting Nostradamus Quatrains indicate an person fitting Osama bin Laden. Nostradamus predictions may contain prophecy of unknown origin which may have great predicitive value to modern man. While a variety of world news media have focused on multiple allegations of Bin Laden related terrorism, televised and online news sources such as Cnn News and Cnn Headline News (CNN and CNN News: see cnn.com, www.cnn.com, CNN.COM,), as well as aol (see aol.com), yahoo (see: yahoo.com and/or www.yahoo.com), msn (see; msn.com), MSNBC (also see: Msnbc News) and msnbc (see: msnbc.com), nbc and nbc news, cbs and cbs news (see cbs.com), abc (see abc.com), abc news, BBC, (bbc, Bbc World News and bbc news systems), together with news papers such as boston herald, washington post, boston globe, new york times, new york post, usa today, associated press, etc., have placed news media focus on terrorist attack focused upon osama bin laden as prime suspect.



















We find it particularly noteworthy and associate some predictive value to contemplate various nostradamus predictions in hopes of deriving practical insights worthy of inspiring useful tactics and strategies for coping with increasingly difficult political, social and economic uncertaintities which apparently relate Bin Laden to Nostradamus. Is osama bin laden attempting to lure the Great Satan into an islamic jihad as set forth in Nostradamus Prophecies and/or Nostradamus Predictions? as set forth in the sites and links to Nostratdamus Predictions and Osama bin Laden related web pages.

Predictions may relate directly to Osama Bin Laden, the Taliban, Afghanistan and the attack on America as a catalyst to Islamic jihad. Why were american airlines used by alleged terrorist Osama Bin Laden to target the world trade center, pentagon, and american citizens in acts of terrorism? Were the Twin Towers located in New York at the world trade centre merely one of many targets focused on initiating an Islamic jihad?  While Nostradamus never depicted in direct fashion the use of american airlines as airborn missles destroying New York's world trade center twin towers, let alone the pentagon, Nostradamus quatrains evoke an uncanny interpretation of modern terrorist activities not unlike those of unleashed in centuries past.  Given the scrutiny of modern news media such as CNN, events involving the world trade center and pentagon to alleged terroist activities by Osama Bin Laden, the FBI and American Red Cross have taken the world news stage, just as the american flag has in general, in ushering in what looks to be a new era in conflict caused by taliban leaders in afghanistan refusing to release Osama Bin Laden to the FBI as leading suspect in the use of american airlines as guided missles aimed directly at the New York's twin towers of the World Trade Center,  pentagon, as well as number of other suspected targets that include the empire state building, the president, the White House, Air Force One, Camp David as well as american airlines in general.




















In addition, intense efforts by the FBI which have news media worldwide focused upon keeping these events in the world limelight, similarliy depicted by Nostradamus. Has the FBI identified Osama Bin Laden as sole suspect, or are there other co-conspirators supporting terrorist activity upon the United States, such as Iran, Iraq, Lybia and Palestine? in the year 1654.  Were the coordinated attacks upon New York, the twin towers of the World Trade centre and Pentagon in Nostradamus Prophecy for Century VI, Quatrain 97? ..."By fire he will destroy their city, A cold and cruel heart, blood will pour, mercy to none. Earth-shaking fire from the center of the earth. will cause the towers around 

[CTRL] Fwd: YES, GEORGE W. BUSH HAS STATED HE'D PREFER TO BE A DICTATOR AT LEAST 3 T...

2001-12-02 Thread Samantha L.

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http://www.buzzflash.com/BuzzScripts/Buzz.dll/sub2

From Paul Begala's Is Our Children Learning

You don't get everything you want.  A dictatorship would be a lot easier. Describing 
what it's like to be governor of Texas.
(Governing Magazine 7/98)


December 18, 2000 CNN.com

I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each 
other, but that's OK. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, 
just so long as I'm the dictator, Bush joked.


July 27, 2001 Associated Press

A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it,  
[Bush] said.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] Antiwar News...(# 38)

2001-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan



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Antiwar News...(# 38)
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Contents:

--[British MP] Alan Simpson on bombing Afghanistan
--The Wizard of Bombs
--Pakistani paper says 45 US special forces killed after raid
--Relief Effort Races Winter to Save Millions
--Depleted Uranium Toxicity in Afghanistan
--26 more body bags in Jacobabad
--U.S. is Dropping World's Biggest Non-Nuclear bomb in Afghanistan
--130-plus civilians killed: report
--Women Oppose War
--Embrace the refugees
--Appeals to halt cluster bombs

Also of interest (links only):
 *Afghanistan Through the Eyes of an Aid Worker
 *The War's Dispensable People
 *Generals leery of war?
 *Global toll; Various Reports
 *The war at home
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[British MP] Alan Simpson on bombing Afghanistan

Question: Why have you called for a pause in the bombing of
Afghanistan?

Alan Simpson: Partly because I think the war is wrong full stop. It's
just the wrong way of seeking to track down terrorists and bring them
to justice. The second is that I am really fearful that we're sitting
on the edge of a humanitarian catastrophe in Afghanistan for which
the West will legitimately be blamed.

The aid agencies reckon that there's maybe ten more delivery days
before the Afghan snow cuts the lorries off. They have fallen behind
the delivery rate that they needed to be able to keep people alive
through this winter. The current position, irrespective of the
numbers who are in refugee camps on the Pakistani/Iranian borders, is
that two million people have been displaced inside the country. One
million children are at the edge of starvation. When the winter snows
go and we start to count the bodies of those who didn't make it
through, I believe the Muslim or Arab countries within the region
will blame us for that catastrophe.

It won't wash that it was the Taliban that delayed things. Everyone
knows that the aid agencies have delivered food through famine or war
zones in the past. They are used to having to pay food taxation, they
are used to the delays and frustrations that they've had to face from
both the Taliban and the Northern Alliance, and in the past three
years under the Taliban governments when the droughts have still been
in place, the aid agencies have managed to get the food through.

Simpson on humanitarian efforts

Question: But the US and UK governments say that the action they are
taking is in co-ordination with humanitarian efforts. Does that not
wash with you?

Alan Simpson: It doesn't make any sense at all. You can't drop bombs
and bread in alternating consignments. The absurdity is compounded by
the fact that some of the food packages look like the cluster bombs
that have been strewn across the landscape, and children have been
sent out to collect them. This is just a wretched and stupid way of
trying to deliver humanitarian aid.

We've changed the targets ­ this is the worst part about the
strategy. All of a sudden we talk about this war with the Taliban -
it has become a war with Afghanistan. We're not pursuing Bin Laden in
the mountains where he is, we're bombing the plains and the cities,
and we're taking out the power and the infrastructure, the fragmented
infrastructure that existed to prop the country up. And the people on
the frontline are those who are homeless, starving, or living on
grass. They are the frontline of reprisals and the rest of the world
knows this. In fact large numbers of people in Britain know this,
which is why I think that the whole momentum of public opinion has
shifted dramatically over the last couple of weeks. There is now a
majority of people who oppose bombing.  They want to let the food get
through to the people of Afghanistan who really need it.

Question: What's your proof of that?

Alan Simpson: The opinion polls in last week's press found that 54
per cent of the population in Britain currently favour halting the
bombing to get the food through.

Simpson on the role the UK should be playing

Question: So how do you think the US and UK should have reacted to
the atrocities of September 11?

Alan Simpson: I think the role the UK should have played was to
rescue America from a mindset that makes it its own worst enemy. At
the moment it's almost as though if America can't bomb, it can't
think. And our own experience of terrorists' attacks and atrocities
across mainline Britain has given us definite experience of how you
deal with terrorism. It never made the outrages any more acceptable.
Never once did we say that the sensible strategic response was
saturation bombing of Dublin, or if the killings and atrocities were
committed by protestant paramilitary groups, that we should flatten
the protestant communities in the 

[CTRL] Fwd: [ctrl] The Oil War: UNOCALs once-grand plan for Afghan pipelines

2001-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan



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The Oil War

UNOCAL's once-grand plan for Afghan pipelines

by Jim Crogan

A victory by the U.S.-led coalition and its Northern Alliance supporters
would not only boost America's power and influence in this strategic Caspian
region, but it would reopen the door to a potential energy windfall for the
West.

Afghanistan's oil, gas and coal reserves are waiting to be exploited. And
neighboring Turkmenistan, the former Soviet Republic, is loaded with
resources, waiting to go to market. But landlocked by Uzbekistan and
Kazakhstan on the north and east, Afghanistan and Iran on the south, and
bordered by the Caspian Sea to its west, Turkmenistan has struggled to find
a viable supply route.

A 1995 proposal by UNOCAL, the Southern California oil giant, shows what
might be in store and gives a hint of influence the oil-friendly Bush
administration could have in charting the future of the strategic region.
UNOCAL proposed building twin oil and gas pipelines from Turkmenistan, south
through Afghanistan and Pakistan, to a shipping terminal on the Arabian Sea,
with a possible pipeline extension into India. To date, the roadblocks have
been twofold: Afghanistan's ongoing civil war and the lack of international
recognition for the Taliban government. UNOCAL says it has pulled out of the
project.

A U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) report, issued in June, ranked
Turkmenistan's reserve of natural gas, with more than 101 trillion cubic
feet, as the fifth largest in the world. After the breakup of the USSR, this
newly independent nation became embroiled in a payment dispute with the
Russian gas giant Gazprom, and lost its access to the region's only
pipeline.

UNOCAL, which has been publicly criticized for alleged human-rights abuses
involving its Burma pipeline operation, signed an agreement in 1995 with
Turkmenistan's president for life, Saparmurat Niyazov, to build the
890-mile, $2 billion pipeline. Its goal was to transport 1.9 billion cubic
feet per day of natural gas from the country's giant Dauletabad Field into
Pakistan's energy grid. The project has been on hold for several years.

Barry Lane, a UNOCAL spokesman, says there were only two viable routes for
this pipeline: Iran or Afghanistan. And the U.S. sanctions against doing
business with Iran left us only one option, he says. Hoping to hedge its
bets against Iran or future OPEC cutbacks, the Clinton administration
offered backing for the projects.

In 1997, UNOCAL joined with Turkmenistan and six international companies:
Delta Oil company (Saudi Arabia), Indonesia Petroleum and ITOCHU Oil
Exploration Co. (Japan), Hyundai Engineering  Construction Co. (South
Korea), Crescent Group (Pakistan) and the Russian company Gazprom to form
the Central Asia Gas ä Pipeline consortium (CentGas). However, UNOCAL
remained the driving force, controlling nearly half of its shares.

In addition to the natural-gas pipeline, UNOCAL also proposed building a
second 1,000-mile, $2.5 billion oil pipeline to take 1 million barrels per
day from Turkmenistan's proven reserves of 546 million barrels. The country
also has an estimated 1.7 billion barrels in offshore areas under the
Caspian Sea.

After UNOCAL completed negotiations with Niyazov, it opened talks with the
Taliban and opposition groups in the north, which later became the Northern
Alliance. The proposed deals would have paid Afghanistan up to $100 million
per year for access across its territory.

To show its good will, UNOCAL donated money to CARE projects in Afghanistan
and provided support for in-country earthquake relief efforts. The oil giant
also gave nearly a million dollars to the University of Nebraska's Center
for Afghan Studies. The money was used to provide pipeline-construction
training for Afghans and schooling for their children.

At the time UNOCAL was also being attacked by feminist groups for working
with the Taliban, whose regime denies human rights to women. But Lane
insists that issue was repeatedly raised during their pipeline talks, and
company-financed schooling was given to both boys and girls.

Lane says that CentGas met several times with Taliban delegations and
factions of the Northern Alliance. The meetings occurred during 1997 in
Afghanistan and at UNOCAL's Texas office. But little headway was made. The
project quickly began to deteriorate, he says. We emphasized to the
Taliban they had to form a stable government that would be internationally
recognized, before any construction could begin.

Lane says he wasn't involved in the Texas meetings and doesn't know whether
then-Governor George W. Bush, an ex­oil man, ever had any involvement.
UNOCAL's Texas spokesperson for Central Asia operations, Teresa Covington,
said the consortium delivered three basic messages to the Afghan groups. We
gave them the details on the proposed pipelines. We also talked to them
about the projects' benefits, such as the transit fees that would be 

[CTRL] An Organizational Framework for Homeland Defense

2001-12-02 Thread eric stewart

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An Organizational Framework for Homeland Defense
TERRENCE KELLY
© 2001 Terrence Kelly

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From Parameters, Autumn 2001, pp. 105-16.

Go to Autumn issue Table of Contents.

Go to Cumulative Article Index.


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One of the most difficult problems facing government
today is the question of how to organize to address
new threats to national security. Noteworthy among
these are threats from terrorism, proliferation of
weapons of mass destruction, and attacks on our
critical infrastructures. Others include the
international drug trade, organized crime, and
assorted transnational threats. These are
nonconventional threats, and no single department or
agency of the federal government can address them
alone. They require coordinated policies, planning,
and execution by agencies that fall on both the
national security and domestic sides of the
government, and they often involve cooperation with
state and local governments, nongovernmental
organizations (NGOs), and the private sector as well.
Responses to them are crosscutting, involve
non-federal organizations, and draw on assets that are
already committed to other important missions. For the
federal government, this creates problems of issue
ownership (turf), and resource allocation--in both
the annual President's Budget Submission, and in the
congressional authorizations and appropriations
processes. A lot of people have given a lot of thought
to these issues, and it has become apparent that there
will be no simple organizational solution.

Another important aspect of this problem of organizing
for homeland defense is the difficult questions it
raises about the role of government in society. When
individual actors have the ability to launch
cyber-attacks that shut down major corporations (as in
February 2000) and madmen with modest assets can
culture and spread pathogens that have the potential
to kill thousands or even millions of citizens,[1]
government must carefully consider how it should
organize to address such potentially disastrous
threats. In this process, important tradeoffs must be
considered between catastrophic damage to the nation
and an expanded (and possibly more intrusive) role for
government. The prospect of an expanded government
intruding on its citizens' rights is of such major
importance that it must be addressed in full
partnership with the Congress and, to the greatest
extent possible, in open forums.

A Recommendation

A solution to this organizational issue can be based
loosely on the military combatant command model.[2] In
this model, the military's regional Commanders in
Chief (CINCs) conduct operations (warfighting,
peacekeeping, humanitarian operations) and report to
the Secretary of Defense and the President. The forces
they use to conduct these operations are raised,
trained, and supplied by the military services. Almost
all resources come through the military services as
well.[3] And while the CINCs do not own the forces
they use to conduct operations (these forces are
assigned to them by the Secretary of Defense for
specific missions), the CINCs have a loud voice in
setting the requirements that shape them. In fact, the
entire military model for the structuring and
equipping of forces is driven by the requirements set
by doctrine and warfighting demands. This model could
provide a framework for solving some of the most
pressing problems of organization and resource
allocation for homeland defense. The framework could
include:

The creation of a Homeland Defense Agency (HDA) with a
headquarters staff similar to that of a regional CINC.

The identification of government agencies that could
be permanently moved under the HDA without adversely
affecting their home agency.
The identification of government agencies that could
not be permanently moved under the HDA without
adversely affecting their home agency, and the
establishment of habitual, plan-driven relationships
with them to address specific homeland defense
missions.
The placement of the resource allocation decision
authority for homeland defense issues that span more
than one department or agency with the Vice President.

The elevation of the position of National Coordinator
for Security, Critical Infrastructure, and
Counterterrorism to Assistant to the President, and
the dual placement of this position under both the
Vice President and National Security Advisor.
The stipulation of specific engagement considerations.

The exact structure and missions of the Homeland
Defense Agency would depend on the outcome of the
debates on the larger issues concerning the role of
government in society. The goal here is simply to
recommend a framework, highlight important
considerations, and stimulate discussion.

Background

It is useful to note that homeland defense has
multiple meanings. In the 

Re: [CTRL] An Organizational Framework for Homeland Defense

2001-12-02 Thread eric stewart

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Reviewed 15 August 2001

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drafted and reviewed on Aug. 15 and implemented about
a month later...h

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[CTRL] Victor Ostrovsky: Experiences with Mossad

2001-12-02 Thread Eric Stewart

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Ostrovsky on Experiences with the Mossad

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When Israels Mossad set out to break me,
it found its helpers here at home

by Victor Ostrovsky

[Victor Ostrovsky published two books on his experiences as a former
Intelligence agent working for the State of Israel: By Way of
Deception and The Other side of Deception.

In these he recorded his personal observations made within Israel's
external security service, The Mossad. He wrote an article on what
subsequently happened to him for the authoritative journal, The
Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (October/November 1997, pp
37, 84-85). Here we reproduce the article.]


We will get to him by other means, we will break him economically,
stated the chief of the Mossad, Israel's CIA, to a Knesset committee
after the failure of the government of Israel's attempt to ban
publication of my first book, By Way of Deception, in the U.S. and
Canada. This statement made on camera was purposely leaked to an
Israeli reporter and printed in the weekend edition of Ma'ariv,
Israel's leading daily newspaper, with the military censor's
approval.

Since that day, Israel's foreign intelligence agency has waged a war
of attrition against me with the enthusiastic cooperation of its
cabal of North American Zionist organizations.

For years as a Canadian-born, Israel-raised former Mossad caseworker
I was unwilling to accept the possibility of a wide conspiracy
against me. After all, my book had finally been published. What more
harm could I do to the country I had left in disgust to return to the
land of my birth. Only hitting rock bottom has finally jolted me out
of this state of innocence - and optimism that a change of luck is
just around the corner. I'm now convinced that I am the target of a
broad collusion between elements of the Israel government and their
gofers, mostly in the American Jewish community.

Following publication of my By Way of Deception I wrote a spy novel,
Lion of Judah, using the spycraft I'd learned with the Mossad as
background. The book described a fictional Mossad operation aimed at
thwarting a secret peace process underway in the Middle East. (The
book was written and published before the real-life, year-long secret
negotiations that led to the Oslo accord came to light.)

In the book I revealed considerably more about Mossad techniques than
I had in By Way of Deception. But, despite the wide publicity
garnered by my first book due to the Israeli government's
unsuccessful effort to suppress it, my second book was ignored.

Radio and television interviews that were scheduled by my publisher
were canceled almost as soon as they were booked. A speaker's bureau
in Toronto, which seldom had trouble arranging speaking engagements
with student and other groups eager to have me as a speaker, found
that the engagements were cancelled before I could appear. In fact,
the cancellations occurred each time a loal B'nai B'rith
Anti-Defamation League (ADL) chapter got wind of them, and they
always did.

But, of course, the less I spoke, the more time I had to write. In
1995, when my third book, The Other Side of Deception, another work
of non-fiction, was published, the efforts against me were stepped
up.

So, on Oct. 21, 1995, I was surprised to be invited by Canadian
Television (CTV) producer Ron Fine to do a guest appearance on
Canada AM, the widely viewed Canadian version of Good Morning
America. Scheduled to appear on the same program, via satellite from
Israel, was Israeli journalist Yosef Lapid, the former head of
Israeli television.


An Appeal To Murder

Lapid had earned his 14 minutes of North American media fame by
appealing openly on the Israeli television show Popolitica for the
Mossad to seek me out in Canada and kill me for writing my books. He
had followed this with an article making the same appeal in the Tel
Aviv daily Ma'ariv headlined By Virtue of Murder.

On cue, Lapid repeated, as I listened, his call for my assassination
on the Canadian television show, but this time with a twist. He said
that, since Israel's Mossad could not kill me in Canada without
causing a diplomatic incident, I hope that there would be a decent
Jew in Canada who would do the job for us.

My reaction was horror mixed with relief. Now it was going to be hard
for media gatekeepers to pretend that there were not ugly Israelis
every bit as vicious and fanatical as the Iranian ayatollah who had
called for the assassination in Britain by a British Muslim of author
Salman Rushdie.

Along with the producers of the show, a large percentage of the
Canadian public had just seen for themselves a former Israeli
government official calling upon Canadian Jews to murder me on
Canadian soil for the books I had written. But, to my astonishment,
there seemed no inclination by the Canadian media to follow up 

[CTRL] Ashcroft: Groups Could be Monitored

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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Ashcroft: Groups Could be Monitored

By JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - Attorney General John Ashcroft (news - web sites) warned
Sunday that religious or political groups normally free from government
intrusion could be monitored by agents if they are suspected of engaging in
terrorism.

``People who hijack a religion and make out of it an implement of war will
not be free from our interest,'' he declared as officials took to the Sunday
news shows to debate America's new anti-terrorism police powers.

The Senate's top Democrat said he might support the narrow use of one of the
most controversial tactics - secret military tribunals to try terrorists.

``Under certain circumstances, very, very restricted circumstances, depending
on how it's handled, I'm willing to look at it,'' Senate Majority Leader Tom
Daschle of South Dakota said.

``With regard to the situation in Afghanistan (news - web sites) in
particular, trying a Taliban or terrorist or ... people involved in terrorist
activity, clearly there's at least the possibility that something like that
might have merit,'' Daschle said on NBC's ``Meet the Press.''

The debate offered a preview of a Senate hearing this week at which Ashcroft
will address criticisms of both liberal Democrats and conservative
Republicans concerned the new tactics will erode civil liberties.

Meanwhile, law enforcement officials told The Associated Press that
investigators have gathered evidence showing similarities among the last
three terrorist attacks against Americans by Osama bin Laden (news - web
sites)'s supporters.

Those attacks include the Sept. 11 suicide hijackings, the October 2000
bombing of the USS Cole (news - web sites) in Yemen and the 1998 bombings of
two U.S. embassies in Africa.

The officials, who spoke only on condition of anonymity, said the
similarities included the way the attacks were planned, communicated and
carried out, and the way the attackers were trained. The officials declined
to be more specific.

``There are certainly similarities among the three, some of which have
emerged more clearly in the last few weeks,'' one official said.

The investigators said they also are examining whether some of the same
people were involved in planning and assisting the three attacks. One
official said authorities are waiting for more information from authorities
in Yemen and other countries about certain suspects.

On the news shows, Ashcroft previewed his appearance Thursday before the
Senate Judiciary Committee (news - web sites), where he will confront
criticism about some of his department's hardest line tactics.

``We're going to do what we need to do to protect the American people,''
Ashcroft said on ABC's ``This Week'' when asked whether restrictions designed
in the 1970s to protect religious and political groups from government
monitoring were being eased.

``If a religion is hijacked and used as a cover for killing thousands of
Americans, we're interested in that,'' he said.

He added, ``We will respect the rights of political freedom and religious
freedom, and we are deeply committed to that. But for so-called terrorists to
gather over themselves some robe of clericism ... and claim immunity from
being observed, people who hijack a religion and make out of it an implement
of war will not be free from our interest.''

Ashcroft told ``Fox News Sunday'' that military tribunals would be limited to
non-U.S. citizens and ``not just normal criminal activity, but war crimes.''
He refused to rule out military tribunals for any foreigners detained on U.S.
soil.

``Can you imagine apprehending a terrorist, either in the deserts of
Afghanistan or on the way to the United States to commit a crime, and having
to take them through the traditional justice system?'' Ashcroft asked.

``Reading them the Miranda Rights? Hiring a flamboyant lawyer at public
expense? Having sort of Osama television ... allowing that kind of propaganda
to go out, jeopardizing American assets in the intelligence community and in
the war? Putting a courthouse and a community as a target for terrorism?''

Rep. Bob Barr (news - bio - voting record), R-Ga., a conservative former
federal prosecutor, said he opposed tribunals for any suspect detained on
U.S. soil. ``I'm not worried about tribunals, for example, overseas, but
domestically we have to abide by the Bill of Rights,'' he told ABC.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman (news - bio - voting record), D-Conn., the former vice
presidential candidate, said he supported using tribunals for terrorists who
engaged in acts of war but opposed them if used against people legally in the
United States.

In other developments:

-Ashcroft said there continues to be no evidence the deadly anthrax mailed in
four recent letters was the work of foreign terrorists or a foreign

Re: [CTRL] An Organizational Framework for Homeland Defense

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[CTRL] 25 Israelis killed by suicide attacks

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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25 Israelis killed by suicide attacks



Israeli medics remove a body from the site of a bus suicide attack in the
coastal city of Haifa on Sunday.




MSNBC’s Gregg Jarrett reports from Tel Aviv and talks with MSNBC’s Alex Witt
about an explosion that rocked a busy pedestrian street in central Jerusalem.



MSNBC STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS

  Dec. 2 —   Israel’s troops surrounded cities in the West Bank Sunday
and shot dead four armed Palestinians outside Jenin. The military took action
after suicide bomb attacks in two Israeli cities killed at least 25 people
and left more than 200 injured. The blasts — one on a crowded bus in Haifa
and two more in a Jerusalem shopping mall — brought a furious reaction from
the government of Israel’s Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who on Sunday met
with President Bush in Washington.


 December 1 — Former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu talks via
phone with MSNBC’s Alex Witt about his reaction to reports of the suicide
bombing attacks and car blast in a busy pedestrian mall in Jerusalem.



 ISRAEL IMMEDIATELY blamed the bombings on Yasser Arafat’s
Palestinian Authority, which controls areas that have been used by militants
to mount such attacks on Israeli civilians in the past.
   The militant Islamic group Hamas, which opposes Israel’s existence,
claimed responsibility for the attacks in both cities to avenge Israel’s
killing of one of its top military leaders in November.
   The Israeli military statement said Israel’s decision to encircle
Palestinian cities was a direct result of inaction by Arafat’s own security
forces. “This action is carried out because of the numerous warnings of
future attacks and the lack of any actual Palestinian action to prevent the
exit of terrorists from their territories or the stopping of terrorist
attacks,” the statement said.
   Israel surrounded Jenin and two other West Bank cities on Saturday,
citing warnings that Palestinian militants were planning new attacks on
Israelis in a 14-month-old Palestinian uprising against occupation. The army
encircled additional cities in the West Bank on Sunday after the attacks.
   In an exchange of fire south of the West Bank city of Jenin on Sunday,
Israeli paratroopers shot dead four armed Palestinians, an army spokesman
said.
   “There was an exchange of fire and they were killed,” he said.
   Palestinian officials could not immediately comment on the
circumstances of the men’s death.

‘ONE OF THE WORST’
   Israeli officials said all three of the blasts were believed to be the
work of suicide bombers. Witnesses said the Haifa blast, which occurred at
12:12 p.m. local time (5:12 a.m. ET), was so intense it damaged a second bus
nearby as well.

  Haim Erovsky, a witness, told Israel Radio, “One bus is totally
burned out, charred.” He said it was at a busy intersection and that the
second damaged bus belonged to the Israeli military.
   Only 12 hours earlier, two more suicide attacks tore through an
outdoor Jerusalem pedestrian mall packed with young shoppers. Israeli Foreign
Minister Shimon Peres described the attack as “one of the worst we have ever
seen.” NBC’s Keith Miller in Jerusalem reported that most of the dead
appeared to be teen-agers.
   Eli Shetreet, who witnessed the Jerusalem blasts, said he saw bodies
being hurled in the air. “A lot of people were crying, falling and there was
the smell of burning hair,” said Shetreet, 19.
   Images of the carnage — blanket-covered bodies lying on sidewalks,
blood-smeared survivors crying out in agony — filled TV screens without
letup, and there was a growing sense that 14 months of Israeli-Palestinian
fighting had reached a crossroads. “It must be understood that we are at a
turning point,” said Cabinet Minister Matan Vilnai, without saying how Israel
would retaliate.
   In a first step, the Israeli military further tightened travel
restrictions, barring Palestinians from driving on most West Bank roads.

PALESTINIANS ORDER CRACKDOWN
   With Israeli troops poised to re-enter Palestinian-held territory, the
Palestinian leadership gave its security forces new powers to rein in
militants on Sunday.
   “The Palestinian leadership has decided to declare a state of
emergency throughout the Palestinian territory,” the statement said. Security
forces were ordered to detain “the planners and executors of these attacks so
that they could face justice.”
   Arafat also called an emergency meeting of the Palestinian leadership
following the deadly bombings. An aide to the Palestinian leader said they
were about to make “a very serious and urgent decision” but he gave no
details.
   A senior Palestinian security source said 50 militants had been
arrested in the West Bank and 

[CTRL] MILITANT LEADERS CELEBRATE BLASTS

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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MILITANT LEADERS CELEBRATE BLASTS
By BASSEM MROUE Associated Press Writer


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BEIRUT, Lebanon (AP) . Palestinians in refugee camps across Lebanon fired
rifles into the air Sunday to celebrate a series of anti-Israeli suicide
attacks that killed more than two dozen people.

After news emerged of the bombings in Jerusalem and the northern Israeli city
of Haifa, refugees in at least six camps in Lebanon celebrated in the
streets, Lebanese security officials said on condition of anonymity.

``These great achievements restore the spirit of victory and jihad to the
people and the nation,'' said Ramadan Abdullah Shallah, leader of the
Syrian-based Palestinian militant group Islamic Jihad.

Another extremist group, Hamas, claimed responsibility for the wave of
attacks. The suicide bombings . one Sunday against a Haifa bus and another
Saturday night in a Jerusalem pedestrian mall . killed 25 people, along with
an Israeli slain in a gun attack on cars in the Gaza Strip.

The refugee camps in Lebanon, like others in Syria and Jordan, are populated
by Palestinians who lost their homes in Israel during the 1948 war and their
descendants.

The attacks, which also injured nearly 200 people, came as a U.S. envoy was
in the region trying to forge an Israeli-Palestinian truce after more than 14
months of fighting.

``The Americans have come to the region with one goal . an Israeli goal . to
liquidate the intefadeh (uprising) and resistance,'' Shallah said in comments
to Lebanon Hezbollah's al-Manar Television.

Shallah said the series of attacks was motivated by Israeli killings of
militant Palestinian leaders, in particular the Nov. 23 slaying of a top
Hamas militant in the West Bank, Mahmoud Abu Hanoud.

``The death of a commander will lead to the emergence of tens of commanders
who will horrify the enemy and make them feel the pain like last night and
today,'' he said.

Egypt and Jordan called for and end to Israeli-Palestinian violence.

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said that his country deplores all violence
against innocent people and that ``there is no alternative but to return to
negotiations and dialogue.''

Jordanian Foreign Minister Abdul-Ilah Khatib expressed his country's deep
concern about the bombings, calling them ``another episode in the vicious
circle of the Palestinian-Israeli violence.''

The latest casualties should ``persuade everybody that the bloody
confrontations will not lead to any benefit for any party,'' Khatib said in a
statement carried by the official Petra news agency.





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[CTRL] Britain asked to prepare strikes against terror bases in Somalia

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Britain asked to prepare strikes against terror bases in Somalia
By Robert Fox and Jessica Berry
(Filed: 02/12/2001)


BRITAIN has been asked by America to help prepare military strikes against
Somalia in the next phase of the global campaign against Osama bin Laden's
al-Qa'eda network.


US Marines prepare a mortar position on their frontline in southern
Afghanistan

President Bush indicated last week that Somalia, Yemen and Sudan were likely
to be the next targets in the war on terrorism because of their links to
al-Qa'eda.

A team of senior British military officers who visited US Central Command in
Tampa, Florida, last week was asked to prepare the strategy for attacks on
sites in Somalia. They have returned to London to discuss the plan with MoD
ministers.

The request was made as it emerged that Saddam Hussein is funding a number of
terrorist training camps in Somalia used by a militant Islamic group with
close ties to al-Qa'eda. According to Iraqi dissident groups based in London,
Saddam has agreed to provide funding, training and equipment to the Somali
Islamic group al-Itihaad al-Islamiya in return for assistance from the Somali
authorities in avoiding United Nations sanctions. Mr Bush placed al-Itihaad
on his list of outlawed terrorist groups after the September 11 incident.

Bin Laden's network is known to have several training camps in southern
Somalia and it has been rumoured that he would seek sanctuary in Somalia if
forced to flee Afghanistan. Western intelligence agencies have said that
members of al-Itihaad have been trained at al-Qa'eda camps and are suspected
of involvement in the 1998 bombings of the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

Pentagon officials have confirmed that American naval ships have been
stationed just off the Somali coast to prevent bin Laden from trying to enter
by sea.




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[CTRL] Secret US plan for Iraq war

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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Secret US plan for Iraq war

Bush orders backing for rebels to topple Saddam

War on Terrorism: Observer special

Peter Beaumont, Ed Vulliamy and Paul Beaver
Sunday December 2, 2001
The Observer

America intends to depose Saddam Hussein by giving armed support to Iraqi
opposition forces across the country, The Observer has learnt.
President George W. Bush has ordered the CIA and his senior military
commanders to draw up detailed plans for a military operation that could
begin within months.

The plan, opposed by Tony Blair and other European Union leaders, threatens
to blow apart the increasingly shaky international consensus behind the
US-led 'war on terrorism'.

It envisages a combined operation with US bombers targeting key military
installations while US forces assist opposition groups in the North and South
of the country in a stage-managed uprising. One version of the plan would
have US forces fighting on the ground.

Despite US suspicions of Iraqi involvement in the 11 September attacks, the
trigger for any attack, sources say, would be the anticipated refusal of Iraq
to resubmit to inspections for weapons of mass destruction under the United
Nations sanctions imposed after the Gulf war.

According to the sources, the planning is being undertaken under the auspices
of a the US Central Command at McDill air force base in Tampa, Florida,
commanded by General Tommy Franks, who is leading the war against
Afghanistan.

Another key player is understood to be former CIA director James Woolsey.
Sources say Woolsey was sent to London by the hawkish Deputy Defence
Secretary, Paul Wolfowitz, soon after 11 September to ask Iraqi opposition
groups if they would participate in an uprising if there was US military
support.

The New York Times yesterday quoted a senior administration official who
admitted that Bush's aides were looking at options that involved
strengthening groups that opposed Saddam. Richard Armitage, the Deputy
Secretary of State, said that action against Iraq was not imminent, but would
come at a 'place and time of our choosing'.

Washington has been told by its allies that evidence it has presented of an
Iraqi link to 11 September is at best circumstantial. However, US proponents
of extending the war believe they can make the case for hitting Saddam's
regime over its plan to produce weapons of mass destruction.

A European diplomat said last week: 'In the past week the Americans have shut
up about Iraqi links to 11 September and have been talking a lot more about
their weapons programme.'

The US is believed to be planning to exploit existing UN resolutions on Iraqi
weapons programmes to set the action off.

Under the pre-existing 'red lines' for military action against Iraq - set
down by Washington and London after the Gulf War - evidence of any credible
threat from weapons of mass destruction would be regarded as sufficient to
launch military strikes along the lines of Operation Desert Fox in 1998, when
allied planes made large-scale strikes against suspected Iraqi weapons
complexes.

Opposition by Blair and French President Jacques Chirac may not be enough to
dissuade the Americans. One European military source who recently returned
from General Franks's headquarters in Florida said: 'The Americans are
walking on water. They think they can do anything at the moment and there is
bloody nothing Tony [Blair] can do about it.'

Bush is said to have issued instructions about the proposals, which are now
at a detailed stage, to his Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, three weeks
ago. But Pentagon sources say that a plan for attacking Iraq was developed by
the time Bush's order was sent to the Pentagon, drawn up by Rumsfeld, Paul
Wolfowitz, chairman of the joint chiefs General Richard Myers, and Franks.

The plan is to work with a combination of three political forces: Kurdish
rebels in the north of Iraq, radical Sunni Muslim groups in and around
Baghdad, and, most controversially, the Shia opposition in the south.

The most adventurous ingredient in the anti-Iraqi proposal is the use of US
ground troops, Pentagon sources say. 'Significant numbers' of ground troops
could also be called on in the early stages of any rebellion to guard oil
fields around the Shia port of Basra in southern Iraq.





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[CTRL] Nurse claims she was fired for talking with FBI

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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Nurse claims she was fired for talking with FBI
FBI: Nurse had tip on September 11 attacks
November 30, 2001 Posted: 8:42 PM EST (0142 GMT)



Eileen Luongo says she was fired for speaking with the FBI.


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FORT LAUDERDALE, Florida (CNN) -- A nurse who says a hospital fired her after
she spoke with the FBI about people allegedly involved in the September 11
terrorist attacks has filed suit against the facility.

Eileen Luongo is seeking back pay, compensatory damages, attorneys fees and a
return to her job in the lawsuit filed Wednesday in Broward County Circuit
Court against Fort Lauderdale Hospital. She claims her rights were violated
under Florida's whistleblower act.

I'm angry that a person who would try to help out in a situation like that
could lose their job, she said.

The hospital, which was under investigation by the FBI for Medicare and
Medicaid fraud, objected to her talking to the FBI agents in the facility,
she said.

Luongo, an admissions nurse at the hospital, said she recognized four of the
suspected September 11 hijackers when their photos were published in a local
newspaper in October. Among those she recognized, she said, were Mohamed Atta
and Marwan Al Shehi, suspected to be the pilots of the planes that crashed
into the World Trade Center in New York.

She said she called the FBI, and agents agreed to meet her at the hospital.

Hospital officials objected to the FBI being inside the facility and asked
the two investigators to leave, Luongo said. She finished talking with them
outside.

When she returned to work her supervisor, Susan DelValle, told her, Turn in
your badge and your keys. You're fired, Luongo alleges.

And I said, 'Am I fired because I talked to the FBI?' and she said, 'Yes,' 
Luongo said, adding that she was later told that it was inappropriate to
bring the agents into the hospital.

Luongo said the terrorist suspects had visited SeaWinds Healthcare services,
a chemical dependency program in Miami Shores, where she had worked over the
summer, and which has since shut down. They walked into the clinic one day to
use a computer, she said, and she helped them compose a letter.

She said Atta appeared to be the leader. Once the letter was finished he held
it up and smiled, and they all left.

The clinic's owner, Mohammed Ibrahim, an Egyptian, was deported by the
Immigration and Naturalization Service in June.

FBI spokesman Judy Orihuela in Miami said Luongo's information provided
credible leads we needed to follow up on.

After she was fired, Luongo said, she asked the FBI to intervene.

FBI agents assured the hospital's administrator that Luongo was cooperating
in the September 11 investigation and not in the FBI's fraud investigation of
the facility, but to no avail, the FBI said.

Robert Casey, assistant special agent in charge of the Miami FBI Field
Division, told CNN that he would hope that employers would understand the
need for cooperation in such a mammoth terror investigation.

He said the information Luongo provided is still being followed up on, and
was critical to our investigation.

Luongo said she would do it all over again.

I didn't know if there was more danger ... who those people were linked with
down here. I thought anything could happen any day. It could be my life, my
grandchildren's life ... anyone's, she said. I thought it was urgent. I
thought it was life-threatening.





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[CTRL] SAS to assault Bin Laden cave

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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SUNDAY DECEMBER 02 2001

SAS to assault Bin Laden cave

JAMES CLARK, DAVID CRACKNELL AND MATTHEW CAMPBELL

BRITAIN'S SAS is poised to lead an attack on the underground fortress in the
White Mountains of eastern Afghanistan where Osama Bin Laden is thought to be
preparing for a last stand.

The 60-strong SAS Sabre squadron that captured a cave complex near the
southern city of Kandahar last month has been told to prepare for the even
tougher mission of hunting down Bin Laden in his Tora Bora stronghold.

A senior British defence source said yesterday that the SAS soldiers had
honed and developed unique skills and experience during the raid, in which
18 Afghans were killed and four Britons injured. The British troops are
planning a joint attack with American special forces on Tora Bora, where Bin
Laden is reported to be surrounded by hundreds of followers ready to fight to
the death.

It will be in partnership with the Americans, who have some very good
people, but what we learnt in the other cave was crucial, the British source
said.

The most seriously injured SAS soldier was hit in the leg and abdomen by
enemy fire. A 26-year-old married man, he recovered consciousness last
Wednesday and is expected to survive, but may lose a leg.

SAS commanders in Afghanistan and Britain are briefing American Delta Force
officers on the lessons of the earlier raid in preparation for an assault on
Tora Bora, which is likely to follow an exhaustive intelligence effort.

Dr Abdullah Abdullah, the foreign minister of Afghanistan's Northern
Alliance, said last night he believed Bin Laden was still hiding in the south
of the country, where coalition intelligence agencies thought they had him
cornered two weeks ago. However, senior figures on both sides of the Atlantic
indicated they were confident Bin Laden had since reached Tora Bora. Planning
for an attack intensified as it emerged that Britain is to double the
strength of its special forces, partly to cope with an expansion of the war
on terrorism in other countries next year.

Geoff Hoon, the defence secretary, will say in a speech on Wednesday that a
review of UK armed forces following the September 11 terrorist attacks on
America had shown the need for an urgent reorganisation.

Although the SAS and the Special Boat Squadron (SBS) will remain virtually
unchanged for fear that their expertise would be diluted if they were
enlarged, a new tier of special forces will be formed as part of a £100m
initiative.

The defence review has concluded that the Parachute Regiment and Royal
Marines have been overstretched by events. Hoon wants entire regiments
retrained to similar standards, creating more elite infantry to fulfil
difficult roles abroad. They could be asked to assist states such as Yemen,
whose government has been unable to prevent terrorists from controlling large
areas of the country. Under the plans Britain's 2,000-strong rapid-reaction
force, dominated by marines and paratroopers, would be bolstered by about
1,800 more elite infantry.

Candidates for retraining and re-equipping include the Hampshire-based
Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment and the Royal Green Jackets.

The review will also see an important change in the ethos of the Territorial
Army (TA). Since 1996 it has been sent to serve abroad as much as possible.
Hoon will say this week that it should make homeland defence its priority.
The 1997 strategic defence review suggested that the UK did not face the
possibility of attacks from the air, a perception transformed by the events
of September 11.

The reorganisation to meet new threats will represent a victory for the
Ministry of Defence over the Treasury. In recent weeks Gordon Brown, the
chancellor, has resisted Hoon's calls for extra money to fund the expansion
of special forces. But, after consulting senior military advisers, Tony
Blair, the prime minister, has ruled that the expansion should go ahead. He
believes the war against international terrorism has demonstrated the need
for more flexible fighting forces.

Blair has also written to security and intelligence chiefs, praising them for
their work during the conflict. He has told the heads of MI5, MI6, the joint
intelligence committee and GCHQ, the communications centre, that the
government and British people are fortunate to be served by security and
intelligence organisations whose professionalism is admired by our enemies
and feared throughout the world.
Brown, however, is annoyed by a section of the defence review that says MI5,
MI6 and GCHQ, as well as military intelligence, will need far more money in
next summer's spending round to protect the UK against terror threats.

The review concludes that if the regular army is tied up on home defence, and
intelligence services are so overworked preventing attacks here that they
cannot 

[CTRL] Eighty Taliban prisoners in mass suicide

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/12/02/wkand10

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Eighty Taliban prisoners in mass suicide
By Damien McElroy
(Filed: 02/12/2001)


EIGHTY Taliban prisoners of war have apparently blown themselves up rather
than surrender to the Northern Alliance.

The troops, captured after the fall of the northern city of Kunduz, had been
herded into a makeshift jail - a freight container - by soldiers loyal to the
Afghan warlord Gen Rashid Dostum, whose fighters were involved in last week's
slaughter of more than 600 prisoners of war in the uprising at the
Qali-i-Jhangi fortress.

Yesterday, 80 survivors of the massacre emerged from the basement of the
ruined fortress. They had hidden without food for days in the hope of
escaping the Northern Alliance.

Gen Dostum was in the process of bringing two Taliban leaders from Kunduz -
Mullah Faizal and Mullah Dadullah - to persuade the prisoners to accept their
defeat, when the men apparently took a decision to commit suicide en masse by
setting off at least one grenade.

There was a loud rumble from inside one of the containers, said Abdullah
Ismail, one of Gen Dostum's commanders. We opened it up to find that one or
more of the Taliban had triggered an explosion inside. It was a mess. There
were about 80 in there. There was stinking smoke and the walls were smeared
with flesh.

The incident in Sherberghan, near Mazar-i-Sharif, will raise new concerns
over the treatment of prisoners by the Northern Alliance. Gen Dostum's troops
are holding a further 6,000 former Taliban fighters.

The suicides, which took place on Friday afternoon, have stalled efforts to
get prisoners to hand over arms and ammunition. Northern Alliance guards have
been ordered to stop body searches of the captured troops, mainly Uzbeks and
Pakistanis. We will not start to examine them until the Taliban mullahs
address them, said Commander Ismail.

Yesterday, Gen Dostum's lieutenants nervously patrolled the huge encampment
of prisoners. There are fears of a revolt that might lead to an even greater
slaughter than that at the Qali-i-Jhangi prison fortress.

The three-day uprising there, apparently sparked by the belief that prisoners
were to be executed, led to the death of a CIA officer and to US planes
bombing the prisoners.

Mindful of the fate of their colleague Johnny Mike Stunn, a CIA specialist
in paramilitary activities, Americans waiting to question the prisoners at
Sherberghan are keeping away, at least until the Northern Alliance confirm
that they have been searched.

Yesterday, at a guesthouse in the grounds of a grand villa a few miles away,
six American special operations personnel were waiting for word that they can
begin interrogations.

The six, who would not give their names but were happy to show photos of
their children back home, were given a tour of the compound on Thursday
evening by Gen Dostum, a man whose easy-going manner belies his reputation as
having the bloodiest hands in Afghanistan.

When Gen Dostum controlled Mazar in the mid-1990s, he disliked visiting the
city and instead spent his time at his walled-in villa in Sherberghan, with
its crystal chandeliers and swimming pool, receiving envoys such as Bill
Richardson, the former US ambassador to the United Nations.

A visitor last week said that the compound now resembled a vandalised version
of a Miami drug dealer's mansion. The Taliban had even chipped the heads of
animals in the mosaics that cover the walls in its grandest rooms.

During his heyday, a 2,000-strong militia was based at the nearby fort on the
outskirts of the dusty city to protect their leader and enforce his commands
across the region disparagingly nicknamed Dostumia, seized by the general
after he turned on former comrades in the pro-communist regime of President
Najibullah.

The Dostum army last week returned to Sherberghan to corral the prisoners
from Kunduz. After the fall of the last Taliban stronghold in the north, the
regime's fighters were packed into steel shipping containers and put on open
lorries.

The lorries were interspersed with the general's personal Washington-procured
cavalry: armoured personnel carriers and 4x4 off-roaders with satellite
telephone links.

Gen Atta Mohammed, a Tajik whose forces entered Mazar with Gen Dostum, told
The Sunday Telegraph last week that foreign prisoners would be handed over to
the United Nations.

He said: We have taken all the prisoners to Sherberghan where they will be
quite safe. We have decided to forgive some of them, especially the Afghans.
The decision over what to do with the foreign ones we will leave with the UN.




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[CTRL] US seeks tribal help to hunt out Osama

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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US seeks tribal help to hunt out Osama

JALALABAD: The US has enlisted tribal warriors in its hunt for Osama bin
Laden in the inaccessible network of caves cut into a rugged mountain south
of here. The self-appointed government has agreed to help the US flush
hundreds of suspected terrorists and hard-line Taliban forces out of a
honeycomb of caves and tunnels around the village of Tora Bora, commander
Haji Mohammed Zaman said.


Developed by mujahedeen fighters with the CIA’s support, Tora Bora served as
an underground hide-out and headquarters during the war against the former
Soviet Union in the 1980s. Having seized control two weeks ago, officials
claimed that bin Laden is hidden with as many as 2,000 foreign fighters and
terrorists in Tora Bora. Zaman said, last week, that he was ready to surround
Tora Bora and cut off its supply lines — but not without money and arms from
Western allies.

Zaman refused to elaborate the action the two governments might consider and
what contribution each would make. ‘‘We’ve asked for a variety of opposition
leaders to help us find al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders wherever they may be in
Afghanistan,’’ Rear Adm. Craig Quigley, spokesman for the US Central
Command, said.

Tora Bora is an attractive hide-out: remote, relatively close to an isolated
stretch of the Pakistani border and a nearly untouchable target. The caves
can only be reached by walking three hours from the nearest village. Thick
canopies of trees camouflage the headquarters from the sky, and nobody can
approach on the ground without being spotted.

Some of Zaman’s 6,000 fighters know the terrain intimately, having helped
build the complex two decades ago. The commander has insisted he needs no
men, only money and weapons.

Bin Laden’s ties to this mountain city are strong. When the government of
Sudan asked him to leave that country in 1996, he flew to Jalalabad. He built
a home on the hilly outskirts of town, brought in a wife and children and
erected terrorist training camps. —



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[CTRL] 'Patriot Act' or privacy slap? Part 1

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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Editor's Note: The latest round of anti-terrorism legislation wasn't the
first time the U.S. Department of Justice and the FBI misled Congress to
obtain new tools to perform surveillance on ordinary Americans, says
economist Charlotte Twight, a contributing editor of the Independent Review
and professor at Boise State University.
Although represented prior to passage as an innocuous measure intended only
to maintain existing government authority, writes Dr. Twight, [the 1994
federal Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA)]
immediately became a springboard in the government's quest for increased
surveillance power.

WorldNetDaily writer and talk-show host Geoff Metcalf interviewed Twight
about government abuse of power, particularly as it relates the new Patriot
Act, recently signed into law by the president.

Metcalf's daily streaming radio show can be heard on TalkNetDaily weekdays
from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. Eastern time.

By Geoff Metcalf
© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com


Q: I continue to hear from readers and listeners (including some real snotty
e-mail) who say, Hey, if you don't have anything to hide, what do you care
if the government is looking into your stuff?

A: Oh, I know a lot of people have that belief. My answer to it is, first of
all, we can't be sure if we have anything to hide, because nowadays there are
so many vague and conflicting laws and so many laws and regulations that an
ordinary person can't know if he or she is in compliance with all those
things.

Q: Ayn Rand had it right: They'll eventually make everything illegal, and
then they can just cherry pick who they want to go after.

A: Right. And also, from my point of view, the logical implication of that –
the argument that I have nothing to hide – is that if you have nothing to
hide, then it would be perfectly OK for the government to have a surveillance
camera in your home. And I don't think that's the kind of country I grew up
in or the type of country that most Americans want to live in and have lived
in historically. Also, there is the danger of abuse of power that we always
have to be concerned about.

Q: Some folks come back and say, Yeah, but it's been sunsetted! So that at
the conclusion of the Bush administration it has to be revisited. But hey,
come on … we know the way these things happen. At the eleventh hour, late
night in Congress: All in favor, opposed, so voted, and you've got these
draconian powers gifted to arguably another administration like the one we
just survived for the last eight years.

A: Exactly so. And as you say, some of the provisions in the new, so-called
U.S. Patriot Act don't actually expire. They just have to be looked at
again. I think there is a good likelihood that they will just continue.

Q: This isn't a unique happenstance. I wrote a piece a while back, noting
that multiple times in U.S. history – going back to the Alien and Sedition
Act of 1798, the McCarren Act, the Smith Act – the government has pretty
regularly chosen either to undermine or abrogate the First Amendment. Your
piece on Privacy and the 1994 federal Communications Assistance for Law
Enforcement Act (CALEA) was fascinating.

A: What was very interesting to me about that 1994 law was, again, the
rationale was simply to help law enforcement maintain existing powers. The
whole idea was simply to sort of bring law enforcement up to the modern
technological standard. The FBI made very clear, repeated, but false claims
that it did not intend to do certain things with this legislation, that it
would not create any new authority, that it would not give them authority to
go after cell-phone location information, that it would increase, rather than
decrease privacy protection, and almost as soon as …

Q: In other words, they lied!

A: Exactly. Almost as soon as the ink was dry on that statute, they
completely reversed the position they had taken before Congress in their own
testimony.

Q: Echelon has been around for about 50 years, Carnivore – they can change
the name as many times as they want – and now there's a new one. What's the
latest one?

A: There is one called Digital Storm that they are after. But I read a very
charming article a few months ago saying it really seemed like the FBI and
the Department of Justice had a tin ear on these things. One commentator
suggested that perhaps their program should be called Vegetarian.

Q: I don't find this stuff funny.

A: I don't either.

Q: Obviously, the opportunity for abuse of power is legion. I want to ask
you, when the FBI was trying to sell the 1994 CALEA thing, were they
intentionally being duplicitous and lying? You try 

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Q: I don't feel real warm and fuzzy with the fact that this latest
anti-terrorism legislation is supposedly sunsetted. I'm not a betting man,
but I would bet it doesn't go away.

A: I bet that it won't go away either.

Q: Government is not ever in a great big hurry, notwithstanding the fact that
the Constitution was designed as a government-limiting tool. It wasn't
intended to give us stuff. It was intended to control government. I'm not
sure where that concept got lost, but it got lost. Once they have acquired a
new power, I can't see a government willingly, anxiously giving it up again.

A: I really agree with you about that. And we see it with this 1994 statute,
the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act. They got that through.
They keep trying to expand it, and then we see it flowering anew with even
broader powers through the U.S. Patriot Act.

Q: In that 1994 legislation, CALEA, the way that was sold, it was sold to
Congress and to the American people. It was going to improve privacy
protection.

A: Yes.

Q: Now even people that don't understand this stuff empirically will say
that's good. I want my privacy protected. But it did just the opposite of
that. At what point is anyone, the FBI or Congress, to be held accountable
for that fraud?

A: I think they should be held accountable immediately. But within the way
the system is structured. But ordinary Americans are just thinking about
their business and taking care of their families, and they trust their
elected officials, or at least some of them. Ordinary people don't have time
to investigate these things. Then you have the reality that elected officials
are sometimes trying to hide what is being done, or heads of agencies are
trying to misrepresent what is being done, so it is a very challenging thing.
All we can hope for is that ordinary people take it upon themselves to become
informed and do some of their own research, like you did in reading NAFTA.

Q: I don't think I'd do it again.

A: I always tell my students when I'm teaching international economics that
if NAFTA were only designed to establish free trade between the countries, it
wouldn't have taken thousands of pages to do it.

Q: Hey, GATT was probably 10 times bigger. They killed a lot of trees to
print that sucker. Actually, Dr. Pat Choate was kind of my mentor throughout
the NAFTA/GATT battles. Pat kept telling me all this stuff, and I was in
denial. I said, Come on, that just can't be right. Then I took a weekend
and plowed through it, and then I had my epiphany. The dispute resolution
stuff with executive session committees, real Star Chamber stuff that most
Americans to this day don't understand, and arguably don't care about.

A: And I'm thinking about that Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement
Act, and also especially the new Patriot Act. You've seen all the provisions
where you can't even understand what they are doing from the actual language.
It is referring to some other section, a completely different statute, and
they are just saying change this and insert the words …

Q: I hate that! That should be illegal for them to do that. You read
something, and they say change the 'therefore' to a 'whereas' in
subparagraph (d), page 832, and they don't show you what they are changing.

A: Yes, and so they aren't even straightforward enough with us to list out
what the new wording will be and what the implications of that will be.
Instead, you have to do weeks of research to figure out what is actually
coming down.

Q: In the long piece you wrote on CALEA, once that filters down to the states
and counties and municipalities, who holds their hands to walk them through
the revisions?

A: I don't know the answer to that in detail.

Q: Do they just get a memo from the FBI saying this is a policy directive,
and you are to do it this way because we tell you to?

A: Basically, the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act allows
the government to require the telecom carriers to install certain equipment
that will make surveillance easier. The issue then is what kind of authority
the law-enforcement officials have to have to gain access to that, and I
don't know the details, but I know there are memos that go from the FBI on
down to the local law enforcement.

Q: I remember there was some software that the FBI was supposed to install at
the ISPs (Internet service providers) and Earthlink for one told them no.

A: And the court said that they had to accept it anyway.

Q: Wasn't there more to it though? Earthlink didn't object for the altruistic
reasons of protection of privacy. They were concerned techno-geek-wise,
because the software the FBI had messed up their system somehow.

A: Yes, they were worried about that, but it is my understanding that they
lost in court.

Q: I am sorry to hear that. Buried in the middle of your language, there is
one phrase that 

[CTRL] Pics suggest deep ocean in Jupiter moon

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Pics suggest deep ocean in Jupiter moon
November 30, 2001 Posted: 12:32 PM EST (1732 GMT)



A heavily cratered portion of the surface of Callisto in an image taken by
the Galilieo spacecraft.


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PASADENA, California -- New close-up pictures from a deep space probe offer
tantalizing evidence that one of Jupiter's largest moons contains a sizable
ocean in its interior, scientists said this week.

Callisto, the outermost of four large jovian satellites, was rocked in the
past by a collision in an area known as the Valhalla basin.

Newly released images of the region directly opposite the basin, which
Galileo took when it flew by Callisto in May, suggest that an underground
ocean cushioned the blow of the impact, NASA planetary geologists said.

The opposition point shows no effect from the impact, NASA's Jet Propulsion
Laboratory said in a statement.

Other bodies such as the moon and Mercury have similar impact basins. But
unlike Callisto, they have grooved and hilly terrain on the other side,
attributed to intense seismic shocks from the collisions. Planetary
geologists theorize that those bodies do not have underground reservoirs to
soften the blow.

Galileo snapped the photographs in May when it flew to within 20,000 miles
(32,000 km) of Callisto, an icy, rocky moon that is the most heavily cratered
in the solar system.

The new discovery parallels a 1990s theory that a liquid layer inside
Callisto could cushion collisions on the exterior, according to David A.
Williams of Arizona State University. But he cautioned that the photos are
not proof of an ocean.

A lot more evidence needs to be uncovered before we will know for sure
whether Callisto has a subsurface ocean, the planetary geologist told the
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[CTRL] Daschles lies and his attempt to sabotage the US economy

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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Daschle’s lies and his attempt to sabotage the US economy
by Gerard Jackson
TNA News with Commentary
Monday 3 December 2001

Last January I predicted that Daschle and his fellow patriots on the Hill
were moving to try and sabotage any economic recovery so that they could
blame the continuing recession on President Bush’s economic policies
(Democrats move to sabotage US economy). Since then the situation has
deteriorated with the Daschle led Democrats shamelessly lying to their
constituents and the media about the tax cuts and what really caused the
recession.

Dick Morris, former adviser to Clinton, has publicly said that the Democrats
are working to sabotage economic recovery. In his own words:
Sen. Daschle
“The obvious central political fact of the stimulus package debate now
gridlocking Congress is that the Republicans want the recession to end and
the Democrats have to pretend to want it to end” (The Hill 29/11). So now we
have it: Daschle, Dodd, Lowey, etc., are working to create longer dole
queues, more bankruptcies, more poverty and more misery just so they can
retake the House in November 2002. Apparently there is no amount of bastardry
this lot are not prepared to resort to in order to win. And if that means
deepening America’s recession — so be it.

Daschle revealed his ruthless contempt for Americans’ welfare when he refused
to schedule a vote on the energy security bill because it would interfere
with his fund-raising tour. Daschle is deeply concerned about the welfare of
the unemployed that when Sen. Charles, Grassley, the Finance Committee’s
ranking Republican, offered to extend benefits for workers who had used up
the benefits, Daschle and his fellow Democrats rejected the offer. The
opportunity to cause more economic misery and then blame it on Bush was just
too good a chance to pass up. So not only is Daschle planning more
unemployment for Americans he is even fighting against more energy for them.
What a sweet guy.

With a Goebbelesque flourish in perfect keeping with Daschle’s deceitful
strategy DCCC Chairman
DCCC Chairman
Nita M. Lowey
Nita M. Lowey of New York brazenly misdescribed the economic slowdown as the
“Bush recession.” Clearly. Lowey is as big a liar as Daschle, according to
whom the recession is a direct result of his tax cuts.

Let’s do this by the numbers so that even callous economic dummies like
Daschle and Lowey can understand it. Last October was the 15th consecutive
month that manufacturing had contracted. That means for those like Lowey who
can’t count that manufacturing officially went into recession in September
2000. Now if my memory serves me right, and I’m sure it does, the priapic
Clinton was still president.

Our readers will know that I frequently stated early last year that the US
economy was going into recession. I emphasised that recession would first
emerge in manufacturing and then work its way down through the production
structure until it reached the point of consumption, which is exactly what
happened. It should be self-evident, therefore, that the recession was well
underway during the last three months of the Clinton administration. No
matter how dumb Lowey is, and she’s pretty dumb, she cannot possibly be
ignorant of this fact, particularly when we consider that it was discussed at
length in every leading paper. And in my book that makes her an unmitigated
and callous liar.

Which brings me to the lying Daschle. His claim that tax cuts caused the
recession are utterly absurd. As I have already pointed out, America went
into recession last year under Clinton. Moreover, even though the recession
has only been made official from March this year the tax cut bill was only
passed in June. Perhaps the brilliant Senator Daschle and the equally
brilliant little Miss Lowey could tell us how June’s tax bill was able to
trigger a recession in March. (It should be noted that even if the March date
for the recession was correct it would still mean that recessionary forces
must have been operating for sometime beforehand). Blaming the recession and
the shrinking surpluses on tax cuts is like blaming the fire brigade for
fires. The sequence is so blindingly out of order that even most of media
hasn’t swallowed the Daschle line, at least not yet.

What Daschle has not been called upon to explain is how tax cuts can cause a
recession. If he were right about the tax cuts then consumption would have
fallen. But consumption continued to rise even as manufacturing contracted,
something else I predicted. To my knowledge no economist ever called tax cuts
contractionary. On the contrary, they are usually opposed for being too
expansionary! According to the Keynesian Paul Samuelson:

“...dollars of tax reduction are almost as powerful a weapon against mass
unemployment as are increases in dollars 

Re: [CTRL] An Organizational Framework for Homeland Defense

2001-12-02 Thread Jim Rarey



The plan most certainly predates August 15th.


Legislation to set it up was introduced in the Congress in March of this 
year. It is based on the recommendations of the "Commission on National 
Security for the 21st Century." Congress, evidently, will be 
relying on the recommendations of this commission as the basis for the countrys 
national security and foreign policy for the next twenty-five years. The 
commission comprises fourteen members of which eleven are members of the CFR 
including the two co-chairmen as well as the top executive of the CFR itself. 
(Doesnt that give you a warm feeling?)
The actual legislation is HR 1292 The Homeland Security Strategic Act 
introduced on March 29, 2001 by Representative Ike Shelton.
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[CTRL] Marines Land, Seize Desert Strip

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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Marines Land, Seize Desert Strip
Submitted by: 15th MEU
Story Identification Number: 2001121163443
Story by Sergeant Joseph R. Chenelly



MARINE FORWARD OPERATING BASE, Southern Afghanistan(November 25, 2001) -- The
thunderous thumping of Marine CH-53E Super Stallion helicopters ripped
through the cold, black desert night signaling the start of Operation Swift
Freedom as the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit (Special Operations Capable)
seized a forward operating base in southern Afghanistan November 25, 2001.

Marines with Charlie Company, Battalion Landing Team 1/1, 15th MEU (SOC)
charged down the helicopter ramps through clouds of dust and into the
darkness sweeping across vast areas of deep sand, clearing buildings and
establishing a secure airstrip for hundreds of follow-on forces who arrived
before dawn.

The airstrip was setup less than an hour after the first helicopter stirred
up the Afghan sand. Lights were added to the runway allowing KC-130 aircraft
filled with Alpha Co. Marines and tactical vehicles to land here. Planes and
helicopters continued the inflow of troops and gear non-stop through the
night and early morning.

It was exciting seeing the Marines going into action, Fascetti said. You
know there is a possibility that there could be enemy forces out there.

The raid force flew several hundred miles directly from the USS Peleliu to
the desert strip aboard six Super Stallions. The long flight required tricky
nighttime aerial refueling with the KC-130 Hercules aerial refueling and
transport aircraft.

Hundreds of hours of planning, rehearsals and briefs preceded the mission
back aboard the Peleliu in the North Arabian Sea. Terrain models were built.
The raid force kept a special sleep schedule to prepare for the all-night
mission. Fast attack vehicles, weapons and other gear were painted with
desert camouflage patterns. Packs were put on pallets and flown in later to
keep the force light on their feet.

The new chapter of the international war on terrorism began without
contacting enemy forces. Not a single shot was fired during the raid.

A base camp was established and security positions were dug as the sun
rapidly climbed above the Marines in occupied Afghan territory.

One the first platoons on the ground raised an American Flag high into the
new dawn sky on a makeshift pole proudly marking the Marines' successful
landing.

This is for our great country, the United States, and the great city of New
York, Staff Sgt. Norris, a platoon sergeant with Charlie Co. and Brooklyn,
NY native. Marines take pride in raising the flag, and pride doesn't begin
to describe our feelings today. I hope these colors can be seen all the way
across Afghanistan.
Marines overcame temperatures that dipped below freezing and howling winds
kicking up cyclones of sand that engulfed aircraft and blasted marching
troops.

It's cold, said 1st Sgt. Phil Fascetti, Charlie Co. 1st Sgt and Spokane,
Wash. native. You're disoriented by the dust blowing all around you.

Marines used ingenuity to combat nature's wrath. They stripped cardboard
boxes from numerous pallets being offloaded and erected walls around the
combat operations center shielding them from blowing sand and maintaining
light discipline. Adrenalin and constant movement kept Marines warm
throughout their first sleepless night.


15th MEU (SOC) Dig In Afghanistan
Submitted by: 15th MEU
Story Identification Number: 2001121163651
Story by Sergeant Joseph R. Chenelly



MARINE FORWARD OPERATING BASE, Southern Afghanistan -- Within striking
distance of the Taliban held city of Kandahar, the 15th Marine Expeditionary
Unit (Special Operations Capable) stands ready for follow on missions after
seizing a forward operating base here in southern Afghanistan.

A large percentage of the 15th MEU (SOC) is working around the clock within
the confines of the compound's walls keeping the base secure and building it
up for the continuous in-flow of Marines.

Infantrymen occupy fighting holes around the entire perimeter. Armored
vehicles, heavily armed vehicles and reconnaissance Marines patrol the
immense desert outside the boundary. Helicopters and jets keep watch even
farther out.

We all want to do our part just like every other American said Capt. Eric
Putnam, Alpha Co. commander. We are morally right. We are defending our
country, and we're going to win.

Marines occupy guard towers that were already in place when the compound was
seized Nov 25. The elevated observation posts allow the Marines to see nearly
20 miles across the flat terrain.

There is ice in our canteens in the morning and the parkas we have
practically save our lives, said Sgt. Anthony Anguiano, a squad leader with
Alpha Co., Battalion Landing Team 1/1, 15th MEU (SOC) and Houston native.
Our focus keeps us awake 

[CTRL] Russian admiral, chief of staff sacked after Kursk sinking

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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Russian admiral, chief of staff sacked after Kursk sinking



The commander of the Russian Northern Fleet, Admiral Vyacheslav Popov, has
been fired after making serious mistakes in connection with the sinking of
the Kursk submarine 16 months ago, Interfax reported.

Popov, along with the head of the joint chiefs of staff of the Northern
Fleet, Mikhail Motsak, were relieved of their functions and demoted for
serious mistakes in organizing the fleet's manoeuvres, Admiral Vladimir
Kuriedov said according to Interfax.

But Kuriedov said that there was no direct link between the dismissals and
the sinking of the Kursk.

Earlier Saturday, Russian President Vladimir Putin met Admiral Kuriedov,
Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov, army chief Anatoly Kvashin and chief
prosecutor Vladimir Ustinov to discuss the provisional conclusions of the
Kursk inquiry.

Putin underlined afterwards that it was not possible given the available
evidence to establish a direct connection between the actions of those
responsible on board the Kursk and the heavy consequences that followed.

He added that all the various hypotheses put forward for the disaster were
still being examined.

The nuclear-powered Kursk sank under still unexplained circumstances in the
Barents Sea on August 12, 2000, killing all 118 men aboard.



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[CTRL] Anti-gun Measure Billed as Anti-terror

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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Anti-gun Measure Billed as Anti-terror
Kevin Curran, NewsMax.com
Friday, Nov. 30, 2001
Two Republican senators want to close the so-called gun show loophole in
federal firearms laws. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Mike DeWine, R-Ohio, sent a
note to fellow GOP senators that they would attach a rider addressing gun
shows in the next appropriate bill. Their reasoning for backing the measure:
that it will help stop terrorists.
Under this proposal, all vendors at gun shows would be required to have a
background check before selling a gun.

McCain and DeWine are joining two Democrats, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and
Charles Schumer of New York, as sponsors of the measure.

It may seem like a strange position for a politician from a state in which
open carrying of handguns is allowed without a permit, but McCain said this
was just another move to make life more difficult for potential terrorists.

He backs his position with three examples of terrorists who bought firearms
at gun shows without background checks.


Federal agents witnessed a man in Michigan with ties to Hezbollah buy guns at
three shows. Ali Boumelhem has since been convicted of weapons smuggling.

A Pakistani being held in the Sept. 11 attacks had been a customer at gun
shows for seven years. He has pleaded guilty to immigration and weapons
charges.

A Florida man with ties to the Irish Republican Army testified to buying
thousands of dollars in weapons and ammunition at gun shows to send to
Ireland.
In an interview on KTAR radio in Phoenix, McCain wondered, If these three
have been caught, how many haven’t we caught?

McCain acknowledged the past difficulties in getting the measure passed, but
said he had no doubt as to how people feel about this. He pointed to recent
initiatives in Colorado and Oregon that closed the loophole in those states
and passed with more than 70 percent of the vote.

McCain’s feeling that attitudes have changed since the prior bill doesn’t
sit well with top officials at the National Rifle Association.

Will Box Cutters Be Banned?

NRA legislative director James Jay Baker told USA Today on Nov. 28 that none
of the terrorism we saw visited on this country on September 11th had
anything to do with firearms.

McCain admitted that NRA lobbying had stalled this proposal before. He said
he could not understand the NRA’s position given the organization’s stand
that existing gun laws need to be enforced. If you want to enforce existing
laws, don’t you want to close the loopholes? McCain asked.

McCain is confident that closing the so-called loophole will not prevent
legitimate buyers from obtaining guns. He pointed to General Accounting
Office figures showing that 90 percent of background checks take just a few
minutes and that 95 percent of them are completed within two hours. Checks
that take longer are 20 times more likely to turn up a felon.

Asked about the chance of the measure becoming law should it pass Congress,
McCain said he had very little doubt that the president would sign the bill.




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[CTRL] Leading Taliban officers 'ready to surrender'

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Leading Taliban officers 'ready to surrender'
By Alex Spillius in Chaman
(Filed: 03/12/2001)


MORE than 20 high-ranking Taliban figures led by the justice minister were
said to be on the verge of surrender yesterday, as opposition forces closed
in on Kandahar, the militia's last urban bastion, in the face of fierce
resistance.


Moving out: US Marines march to the frontline in southern Afghanistan

As American bombers pounded the city, United States commanders said the
battle might be reaching culmination point.

A senior US marine officer told journalists in southern Afghanistan that he
had expected the city to fall last week but the Taliban were still in control.

But you have a lot of forces at play. Opposition groups coming from the
north down, from the south-east up, and us coming potentially from where we
are, said Major James Higgins.

Everywhere the Taliban are looking [they are under] a lot of pressure, kind
of a snake squeezing in on them, and hopefully we can get them out of there
in the near future.

The marines acknowledged for the first time yesterday that British, German
and Australian military liaison officers were working at the airstrip they
seized on Nov 25 to co-ordinate coalition forces.

A leading anti-Taliban commander, Abdul Khaliq, said he had received reports
that the Kandahar governor, Mullah Mohammed Hassan, had been killed during US
bombing on Friday.

Hassan was a founder of the radical Afghan movement and a confidant of its
leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar. His death would be a considerable blow to the
militia as it struggles to withstand the continued American aerial
bombardment.

Afghans arriving in Pakistan from the city said the Taliban had ordered that
violators of a night time curfew would be shot on sight. Two suspected spies
have already been hanged in public. Other travellers reported dozens of
civilian casualties from recent air strikes.

Last week Omar suffered the defection of the intelligence minister, who may
well soon be followed by a mass desertion.

Mr Khaliq said he held secret talks with the justice minister, Nuruddin
Turabi, in the Pakistani border town of Chaman late last week. The minister
said he was ready to capitulate with about two dozen other ministers, members
of the Kandahar ruling council or military commanders, who could bring
thousands of troops with them.

Omar would then be reduced to a few diehard ministers and commanders, in
addition to the 4,000 to 5,000 foreign fighters mostly recruited by Osama bin
Laden's al-Qa'eda organisation and now spread across the south of the
country. Several thousand Afghan Taliban would also stay loyal and fight to
the death.

Mr Khaliq, speaking in Quetta, said: There are a lot of Taliban commanders
who don't want to fight opposition groups and who don't support Omar's ideas.
I have given guarantees of their safety.

I met Turabi and he agreed with us that we shouldn't fight. He said he would
meet friends who agree with him and try to convince Omar [to surrender].

If Omar refuses to compromise, Mr Khaliq expects a delegation from the
justice minister, who is now back in Kandahar, to return to the border within
the next few days and finalise the surrender.

The tribal leaders still hope that the south, the birthplace of the Taliban,
can be won with a combination of military pressure and political persuasion.
Like the Taliban, they are Pathans, and have appealed to potential defectors
on the basis of ethnic unity.

Kandahar is now virtually surrounded. The roads north to the capital Kabul,
and the western city of Herat are in opposition hands. The main road south to
the frontier with Pakistan has been cut.

Tribal leaders are loath to engage in too close combat with the Arab and
Chechen fighters. They hope that American bombs and marines will do most of
the work for them.

According to reports the Americans are still awaiting orders. Their mission
will focus as much on hunting bin Laden as attacking Kandahar.

The opposition has suffered heavy losses in a battle for Lashkargar, the
capital of Helmand province, one of three still mostly controlled by the
Taliban, while Arab allies of the militia were said to be putting up stiff
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[CTRL] Turn Someone In - Get a Visa!

2001-12-02 Thread Eric Stewart

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[In another indication of Law Enforcement's ineffectiveness,
The government of Dummy, Rummy  Scummy are now offering to
help aliens with their residency problems if they turn someone
in to the Feds. Wonderful -- that's a GREAT way to get accurate
information, Scummy, almost as unreliable as torture! Turn someone
in and get a visa!

They've coached Ashcroft on how to look more relaxed in a bid
to be reassuring, perhaps, and they've taught him how to smile.
He's now doing more PR touring around, visiting Muslims for dinner
and talking about how it's all designed to protect innocent
Americans. He keeps his news fixed smile on his face, like a corpse,
and folds his hands together, like an undertaker. He seems to be
quivering less these days. Maybe they have him on drugs.

Thursday November 29 12:26 PM ET (via Yahoo)

U.S. Anti-Terror Bid Dangles Carrot for Foreigners

By Deborah Charles

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Thursday launched a
program to lure foreigners into informing on suspected terrorists in
exchange for help with visas and citizenship, following the Sept. 11
attacks on America.

U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, who has come under a barrage of
criticism by civil rights groups in recent months, announced the
Responsible Cooperators Program, promising foreigners that for the
right information they would get help with visas and other
immigration issues.

It is designed to say to people that if you would like to have an
improved visa status for your own presence in the United States and a
pathway to citizenship, one of the ways you can do that is by
providing reliable and useful information about terrorism, said
Ashcroft.

While it was important for everyone to help save American lives,
visitors might have valuable information because of their language
skills and things they know from home, Ashcroft told ABC's Good
Morning America program.

Ashcroft told NBC's Today show, while it was not an amnesty
program, people without proper documentation who come forward should
not fear for their futures.

We will be interested in the information they have and not
interrogating them and not about their own status, he said.

The United States currently issues a small number of 3-year S visas
every year to noncitizens who provide critical and reliable
information concerning a terrorist organization.

The criteria to qualify for an S visa require the applicant to have
placed his or her life in danger as a result of providing that
information and to be eligible to receive a government reward.

This is useful program but we want to go beyond this, said a
Justice Department official. Only 50 S visas are granted each year.

RELIEF FOR INFORMATION

Ashcroft offered an alternative if a foreigner was not eligible for
an S visa but still provided useful information in the fight
against terrorism.

I am directing the INS, the criminal division and the United States
attorneys in appropriate cases to defer action on placing the alien
into removal proceedings or to grant parole in the public interest to
allow the alien to enter and remain in the United States, his
three-page directive said.

The United States is seeking to find out who was behind the Sept. 11
hijacked plane attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon,
which killed more than 3,900 people.

With respect to terrorists who are being sought by the United States
or who plan to commit further violent acts against the United States,
there may be aliens who have useful and reliable information as to
their whereabouts, their organizations and their plans, but who may
be reluctant to provide that information to law enforcement
officials, Ashcroft said in the directive.

The Department of Justice ... has the legal authority to offer
incentives to those aliens, whether living in the United States or
abroad, to provide reliable and useful information about the
terrorists and their plans, he said.

He did not detail what information had to be provided.

Ashcroft has launched an aggressive arrest and detention program
aimed at finding those responsible and preventing another attack from
occurring.

But he has been criticized by civil rights groups for allowing
hundreds of people to be rounded up. Ashcroft announced this week
that federal criminal or immigration charges have been brought
against more than 650 people since the attacks.

U.S. attorneys have also been ordered to question 5,000 foreign men
living in the United States to see if they have information about the
attacks. The men, who are not suspects, are aged 18 to 33 and entered
the country since January 2000.

The new program is partially aimed at ensuring many of those 5,000
men -- including those who may be in the country illegally -- take
part in the interviews and answer questions.

In an interview with CNN, Ashcroft declined to comment on 

[CTRL] Fun and Games With Anthrax

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Fun and Games With Anthrax
Richard Poe
Dec. 1, 2001

What is the purpose of these anthrax attacks? I can't figure it out.

As a weapon of mass destruction, anthrax is a dud. The stuff only seems to
kill occasional senior citizens by accident.

Were the terrorists simply idiots for choosing anthrax? Or does this
operation serve some purpose other than killing?

I suspect the latter. Anthrax has failed dismally to hurt, kill or even
frighten most of its intended victims. But it has proved remarkably effective
in poisoning American unity.

Consider the sequence of events.

After the 9/11 attacks, Americans stood united. The sleeping giant had
awakened. Terrorist leaders from Cairo to Baghdad trembled.

Then the Middle East propaganda mills started grinding. The Sept. 13 edition
of Iran's Tehran Times declared:

After the bombing in Oklahoma City, the U.S. officials under the influence
of the Zionist lobby immediately pointed their fingers at Muslims and
Palestinians. However, later it was revealed that a U.S. citizen Timothy
McVeigh was behind the bombing. ...

Homegrown extremists must have carried out the Sept. 11 attacks as well, the
editorial implied. Throughout the Muslim world, journalists, government
officials and terrorist leaders took up the chant.

But Americans wouldn't buy it. The role of radical Islam in the 9/11
atrocities seemed too obvious.

Then came the anthrax offensive. Suddenly, things got hazy.

Harvard University terrorism expert Juliette Kayyem led the way. An
Arab-American and former Clinton political appointee, Kayyem told the New
York Times on Oct. 15 that right-wing groups in America were likely behind
the anthrax attacks.

As soon as I heard the word anthrax, that's what I thought of, she told the
L.A. Weekly.

And what made her jump to that conclusion?

Well, it seems that right-wing extremists in America have, on occasion,
scared people with fake anthrax hoaxes.

Saddam Hussein, on the other hand, uses the real stuff.

Saddam has the anthrax, noted Wall Street Journal editor Robert L. Bartley
on Oct. 29. After his defeat in the Gulf War, U.N. inspectors found he'd
deployed missiles and artillery shells loaded with anthrax, botulism toxin
and nerve gas. … We know that he's capable of milling anthrax to military
grade. ...

Government leaks have only muddied the waters, following a kind of Newton's
Law of action and reaction. For every leak blaming Muslim terrorists, an
equal and opposite leak fingers domestic hate groups.

For instance, leading U.S. intelligence sources told the London Observer
that Iraq was the prime anthrax suspect. Two weeks later, anonymous sources
from the security services and Justice Department told the same newspaper
that Aryan militants were the likeliest culprits.

Such contradictory leaks may signal a dangerous rift in the counterterror
community.

On Oct. 27, NewsMax.com investigative reporter Carl Limbacher exposed serious
mishandling of the anthrax investigation by what he called a Clintonized
FBI, obsessed with pinning blame on right-wing extremists.

Nothing [about the anthrax attacks] seems to fit with an overseas
terrorist-type operation, one senior FBI official assured the Washington
Post on Oct. 27.

So why was terrorist Mohamed Atta looking at cropdusters in Florida? And why
did a newspaper in Pakistan receive an anthrax envelope?

The Clintonized FBI may have similarly whitewashed the 1995 Oklahoma City
bombing. Former KFOR-TV reporter Jayna Davis told Fox News Channel's Bill
O'Reilly in a March 20, 2001, broadcast, that the FBI ignored massive
evidence linking Timothy McVeigh to Osama bin Laden's terror network.

The alleged OKC whitewash has received extensive coverage on Internet news
sites such as WorldNetDaily.com. But mainstream media favor their own
conspiracy theories, in which right-wing Americans are the sole villains.

On Nov. 16, for instance, CNBC Hardball reporter Dan Abrams proposed that
some sort of right-wing group may have sent anthrax to Democratic senators
Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy.

That's been my theory since the beginning, replied host Chris Matthews, a
Democrat.

On Tuesday, the U.S. military identified over 40 sites in Afghanistan with
possible connections to chemical and biological warfare operations. Stay
tuned for a rash of government leaks debunking this claim.

I don't want to be a bad sport. Disinformation is inevitable in war. Lies and
counter-lies are all part of the game.

But I'm getting worried. Eight years of Clinton appointments seem to have
packed our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the sort of people
who believe the NRA, the Republican Party and the Christian Broadcasting
Network constitute greater threats to our nation than Al-Qaeda.

We are going to have a very hard time winning this war if we can't agree on
who the 

[CTRL] Week Ending: 1 December 2001/16 Kislev 5762

2001-12-02 Thread Bill Richer

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TZEMACH NEWS SERVICE
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A weekly update of news and events regarding the nation and the people of
Israel

Week Ending: 1 December 2001/16 Kislev 5762

O G-d, do not remain quiet; Do not be silent and, O G-d, do not be still.
For behold, Your enemies make an uproar, and those who hate You have
exalted themselves. They make shrewd plans against Your people, and
conspire together against Your treasured ones. They have said, 'Come, and
let us wipe them out as a nation, that the name of Israel be remembered no
more.' For they have conspired together with one mind; Against You they
make a covenant Let them be ashamed and dismayed forever, and let them
be humiliated and perish, that they may know that You alone, whose name is
the L-rd, are the Most High over all the earth. Psalm 83.1-5, 17-18


This Week's Headlines:

:: DEVASTATION AND DESTRUCTION IN JERUSALEM
:: JERUSALEM BOMBINGS FOLLOW EARLIER MURDERS
:: IDF REENTERS PALESTINIAN AREAS IN WAKE OF ATTACKS
:: ZINNI GETS BIRDS-EYE VIEW OF KILLINGS
:: FOR SEVEN DAYS OF QUIET, SHARON WILL REWARD ARAFAT WITH A STATE
:: WAQF IS DESTROYING TEMPLE MOUNT WALL
:: ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS THWARTED
:: CHANUKAH SITES
:: IRAQ ALSO GETS INVOLVED
:: IDF TOO MUCH FOR SYRIA


:: DEVASTATION AND DESTRUCTION IN JERUSALEM: At about 11:30 pm Saturday
night, two suicide bombers detonated powerful explosive devices seconds
apart on Ben Yehuda Street in Jerusalem, near Zion Square. The suicide
bombers had laced their bodies with nails and screws in order to inflict as
much harm as possible to the many civilians who were dining in the nearby
restaurants and coffee shops in Jerusalem's outdoor pedestrian mall. About
15-20 minutes later, a car bomb exploded on Rabbi Kook Street near Jaffe
Street, intended to strike persons that fled the earlier attack as well as
emergency personnel responding to the scene. As of this report, there are
11 persons dead and 180 wounded, with 17 in serious and very serious
condition. Many of the people are in their late teens and 20s. About thirty
minutes before the attack, an anonymous telephone call was received by Beit
Shemesh police, with the caller telling the dispatcher that a car bomb
attack would be taking place in downtown Jerusalem. Units were dispatched
and a search conducted but nothing was found. The attack came at a time
when the Ben-Yehuda pedestrian mall was filling with teens, as is the
Saturday night custom. The blast location is a well-known Jerusalem spot
for the young that take advantage of the many cafes and other eateries,
opting to spend their Saturday nights on the Ben-Yehuda Mall.

Officially no organization has taken credit for the brutal murders.
However, a Hamas radio station in Palestinian Authority [PA/PLO] controlled
areas was broadcasting joyous music and congratulating those who carried
out the attack, Israel CHANNEL ONE television said. Israeli government
officials blamed the PA/PLO and its leader Yasir Arafat.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, who is in New York City ahead of a planned
White House meeting on Monday, was informed of the situation shortly
following the attack. PM Sharon has conferred with Defense Minister
Binyamin Ben-Eliezer and Foreign Minister Shimon Peres. Officials have
confirmed that the prime minister has requested that US President George W.
Bush move up the planned meeting. According to a senior official
accompanying PM Sharon, the meeting will take place in Washington at noon
on Sunday, after which the prime minister will head home.


:: JERUSALEM BOMBINGS FOLLOW EARLIER MURDERS: By Friday, Palestinian
terrorists had murdered seven Jews. Two Palestinian terrorists opened fire
while running from the Afula Central Bus Station to the nearby open-air
market Tuesday morning, killing two Jews and wounding over 30 others. The
victims were Michal Mor, 25, a mother of three from Rechasim (southeast of
Haifa), and Noam Guzovsky, 23, of the nearby moshav Ramat Tzvi. Security
forces gave chase, and a soldier finally shot and killed the terrorists.
Islamic Jihad and Fatah [which is led by PLO leader Yasir Arafat] took
joint responsibility for the attack, in revenge for Israel's killing of Abu
Hanoud last Friday. Abu Hanoud was a leader in the Hamas terrorist
organization.

Some 20 kilometers [12.5 miles] to the west, police thwarted another
serious attack when they caught two Arabs carrying a bag with a bomb and
other explosive materials. Police safely detonated the bomb nearby.

Later that night, Ettie Fahima, 45, of Netzer Hazani in Gush Katif, mother
of four, was murdered near Kfar Darom as she was driving home. A terrorist
crawled undetected from a house near the Kisufim junction and then opened
fire on a bulletproof bus carrying children and on several cars.
Miraculously, Ettie was the only fatality; three others were wounded.

Four more Israelis were murdered 

[CTRL] CONGRESS ACTION: December 2, 2001

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CONGRESS ACTION: December 2, 2001

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TERROR TRIALS: Senate democrats are confirming Bush judicial nominees at a
rate significantly slower than prior administrations, according to the
Congressional Research Service. Despite democrat whining over slow
confirmations during the Clinton years, Clinton-appointed judges dominate the
federal bench, accounting for more active federal judges than Reagan, Bush
senior, and G.W. Bush combined. The longer they can keep Bush's judges off
the bench, the more mischief those liberal activist judges can make, says
Thomas Jipping of the Free Congress Foundation.

What Democrats have done..is try to thoroughly politicize the confirmation
process. Thus, in June, and again in early September, they held hearings not
on the nominations but on whether nominees should have to pass an ideological
litmus test, made up by Democrats, before being confirmed. What's the point
of having judges hear cases on abortion, gun control, or affirmative action
if you're going to decide those cases, in effect, during the Senate
confirmation process? To listen to the Democrats, judges should decide cases
not on the facts and the law but on the basis of their ideology. That's the
death of the rule of law. -- Roger Pilon, at the Cato Institute.

But Democrat Senator Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary
Committee, has other things to do beside starting to restore the rule of law
and hold hearings on judicial nominees. Many of Bush's judicial nominees
haven't even had a committee hearing yet, let alone a Senate vote on
confirmation. Instead, this week Leahy's committee began hearings to showcase
criticism of the military tribunals established by Bush's Military Order of
November 13, 2001, Detention, Treatment, and Trial of Certain Non-Citizens
in the War Against Terrorism. Leahy's complaint that Congress wasn't
consulted about the tribunals, or the other law enforcement activities that
he objects to, is completely without merit. Leahy himself approved those
activities, by voting for Senate Joint Resolution 23 -- as did every other
democrat on his committee.

The November 13, 2001, Military Order is explicitly limited to any
individual who is not a United States citizen, and that such individual.is
or was a member of the organization known as al Qaida; has engaged in, aided
or abetted, or conspired to commit, acts of international terrorism, or acts
in preparation therefor, that have caused, threaten to cause, or have as
their aim to cause, injury to or adverse effects on the United States.; or
has knowingly harbored one or more individuals who fit that description. The
trial procedure is set out in the Military Order: they .may be punished in
accordance with the penalties provided under applicable law, including life
imprisonment or death; the trials shall at a minimum provide for.a full and
fair trial, with the military commission sitting as the triers of both fact
and law; admission of such evidence as would.have probative value to a
reasonable person; in a manner consistent with the protection of information
classified or classifiable; conviction only upon the concurrence of
two-thirds of the members of the commission; sentencing only upon the
concurrence of two-thirds of the members of the commission, and the trials
shall be subject for review and final decision by [the President] or by the
Secretary of Defense.

Conservative columnist William Safire (in a seriously over-wrought editorial)
wrote, .the President of the United States has just assumed what amounts to
dictatorial power.. And in a startling insult to the military, .we are
letting George W. Bush get away with the replacement of the American rule of
law with military kangaroo courts. Safire's alternative? .turn [bin
Laden's] cave into his crypt. So for all of Safire's hysteria about
kangaroo courts, Safire proposes to dispense with trials altogether! If bin
Laden tries to surrender, Safire says that we should refuse to accept
surrender without what he calls a policy of universal surrender: all of al
Qaeda or none. The instantaneous and simultaneous surrender of every member
of al Qaeda around the world would clearly be impossible, even if bin Laden
desired it, so Safire's doctrine can thus be simply stated -- no surrender,
no trial, simply have him killed.

The New York Times claims that American civilian courts have proved
themselves perfectly capable of handling terrorist cases without overriding
defendants' basic rights. Where the Times thinks that a non-citizen
terrorist, caught and brought to trial outside the U.S., gets those basic
rights, is unstated, and since the Constitution obviously does not apply to
non-citizens captured and dealt with overseas during wartime, it would be
interesting to know exactly what the Times thinks those basic rights are.
But the globalists at the Times, and elsewhere, have a 

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HITRAP
Honesty, Integrity, Trust, Responsibility, Accountability and People.
by Robert L. Pappas,
Col. USMC (RET)

It's time to get this off my chest On November 26th, Larry King hosted US
Secretary of State Colin Powell for a wide-ranging discussion of the War on
Terrorism. It was an excellent performance by General Powell who deftly
maneuvered through the maze of King's land mines. A long time commentator,
anchor and moderator of FACE THE NATION, CBS News chief Washington
correspondent, Bob Schieffer, followed General Powell. It was the latter
interview that prompts this essay. Messieurs King and Schieffer were involved
in a dialogue about how the American people are reacting to the War on
Terrorism.

SCHIEFFER: ... it's a story on two fronts, but it's a story that we not only
are covering, it's a story that we know whose side we're on here. This is not
covering Vietnam, where there's a big debate over whether American troops
ought to be sent off to some country that none of us had ever heard of before
the troops went there. To help people, form a democracy, or whatever it was
we were trying to do. ...And I'm still not sure we really know.

SCHIEFFER: This (ed. note, the attack on America) is something where these
are our people. These were Americans, innocent Americans, women and children.
I now know two people who died.

KING: Do you?

SCHIEFFER: As a result of this. And I mean, this is something we were all
involved in. So this is different.

Ah, yes. How marvelously arrogant and blissfully ignorant, THIS IS
DIFFERENT.

With that pile of bovine scatology, scar covered wounds that have been slow
healing for decades were reopened as with a rusty knife. The wounds came, not
just from the 500 missions this writer flew, not only from being shot down,
and not even from enduring the capture or loss of close friends. The lasting
wounds came from serving the interest of a nation whose political,
educational, entertainment, and spiritual leaders understood pathetic little
of the reasons for US involvement, and could have cared less about the men
and women who served there.

The scars came from protecting the broad interests of a generation that did
not deserve it, and who to this day are so arrogant and ignorant as to
believe that they were righteous in their opposition to the Vietnam War. It
is this writer's assertion that it was the United States' action in Vietnam,
in conjunction with the brilliant geopolitical skills of Richard Milhous
Nixon notwithstanding his lack of other virtues, that rendered the first body
blow to the Soviet Union, thus stemming its quest for world domination and
resulted in its eventual collapse both as an economic system and
totalitarian, evil empire and has made possible unprecedented economic
well-being.

The beauty of this great Republic is that Americans are able to exercise
constitutionally guaranteed freedoms without fear of government reprisal. In
this land, unlike most others, reasonable people can disagree on issues of
importance without resorting to violence, as was eloquently illustrated
during the 2000 elections. It was for the Constitution, for freedom and the
blessings of liberty that the writer devoted a major portion of his adult
life in the armed service of this great nation.

Schieffer's manifest bewildering, arrogant and ignorant attitude about the
Vietnam War reflects the attitude of many during the sixties and early
seventies. In fact, his and others with similar attitudes grown large
gradually affected the outcome of that war and the loss of 58,000 patriots.
Although the writer has strongly held opinions about that war, they are about
the conduct thereof not about its underlying purpose.

In the early 1990s, Mr. Russ Davis wrote a commentary in the Utica, New York,
Observer Dispatch titled, Let God sort sinners from the saints. In the
article he exemplified a segment of the U.S. population whose behavior during
the Vietnam War was characterized as heroic by some and dishonorable by
others. Fleeing to Canada or spending time in jail was for them a welcome
alternative to the risk of dying in a poorly understood and worse, poorly
executed war.

Traditionally, through the elective process, patriotic loyalty has been
imputed in the nation's elected leaders; and by extrapolation to the nation,
states, communities, and ultimately to one another. Mr. Davis' article noted
above touched lightly on the essence of loyalty when he described a man who
he greatly respected, but who did not come to grips with the reality of his
own student deferment until he faced the names on The Wall. There, in front
of Davis' friend was the name of someone he knew and who out of loyalty to
his fellows, to the Constitution of the United States, had the personal
integrity to do what was difficult but right; and that made it possible for
Davis' friend 

[CTRL] Fwd: Arutz-7 News: Sunday, Dec. 2, 2001

2001-12-02 Thread Tenorlove

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1. 24 HOURS OF TERROR IN ISRAEL
2. TEN MURDERED IN JERUSALEM
3. FIFTEEN DEAD IN HAIFA
4. ONE KILLED IN GAZA, AND OTHER SHOOTINGS
5. REACTIONS
6. ARAFAT GAVE THE ORDERS, NOW HE CONDEMNS
7. PERES MAY HAVE TO GIVE IN

 1. 24 HOURS OF TERROR IN ISRAEL
 Israel has suffered a catastrophic 24 hours of terrorism  - the worst
 since
 the Oslo Peace War began - with the murder of 26 people in a series
 of
 Palestinian terror attacks throughout the country.  Ten teenagers
 lost
 their lives late last night in downtown Jerusalem at the hands of two

 suicide bombers; a professor was murdered by two Arabs as he drove in

 northern Gaza early this morning; and fifteen bus passengers were
 murdered
 when a suicide bomber blew himself up in Haifa this afternoon.

 2. TEN MURDERED IN JERUSALEM
 Two young suicide murderers from Abu Dis, east of Jerusalem, blew
 themselves up shortly before midnight in a crowded outdoor restaurant
 area
 in Jerusalem, off Ben Yehuda St.  The ten murdered victims were all
 males
 between 14 and 20 years old:
 Adam Weinstein, 14, Givon HaHadasha, north of Ramot
 Golan Turjeman, 15, Pisgat Ze'ev, Jerusalem
 Assaf Avital, 15, Pisgat Ze'ev, Jerusalem
 Yisrael Yaakov Danino, 17, Har Nof, Jerusalem
 IDF St.-Sgt. Nir Heftzadi, 19, of Gilo, Jerusalem
 Guy Vaknin, 19, Beit Yisrael, Jerusalem
 Yosef Elezra, 19, from Jerusalem
 Moshe Yedid Levy, 19, Gilo, Jerusalem
 Moshe Michael Dahan, 20, Beit HaKerem, Jerusalem
 Yoni (Yuri) Korganov, 20, from Maaleh Adumim

 About 20 minutes after the double suicide attack, a car bomb exploded
 on
 Rabbi Kook St., around the corner.  About 85 people are still
 hospitalized
 from the triple attack, including 14 in serious condition.

 President Moshe Katzav accompanied Gen. Anthony Zinni to the site of
 the
 Jerusalem attack this morning.  This is the deepest evil
 imaginable,
 Zinni said, after placing a wreath at the site.  To attack young
 people
 and children, and then to attack rescue personnel - this is the
 lowest form
 of humanity that can be imagined.  He called off his meetings with
 Israeli
 figures for today.

 The Cabinet convened this morning, before the Haifa massacre, and
 decided
 unanimously to adopt recommendations made by Defense Minister
 Binyamin
 Ben-Eliezer and IDF Chief of Staff Lt.-Gen. Sha'ul Mofaz.  No Arabs
 from
 Judea, Samaria, and Gaza will be allowed to travel outside of Yesha
 until
 further notice; only food, gas, and other essential supplies will be
 allowed into the Arab-populated areas there.

 The Cabinet meeting will continue tomorrow, after Prime Minister
 Sharon
 returns from his abbreviated trip to the U.S.  American President
 Bush
 agreed to hold his meeting with Sharon at noon today (Washington
 time),
 instead of tomorrow, to facilitate Sharon's early return.  Washington

 correspondents say that Bush had been planning to make some demands
 of
 Sharon, but that in light of the terrorist onslaught on Israel, the
 Americans are now placing the onus entirely on the Palestinian
 Authority.  Bush called on the PA to take action against the
 murderers and
 the organizations that support them.

 In the meantime, the IDF has tightened its encirclement around all
 the PA
 cities.  PA officials have emptied out their headquarters, for fear
 of
 Israeli strikes.  Dozens of intelligence warnings of still more
 terrorist
 attacks continue to be examined by Israel's security bodies.  A
 police
 search continues for an Arab who attempted to enter two schools in
 Talpiot,
 Jerusalem; they suspect that he was planning to carry out more
 terrorist
 carnage.

 An Arutz-7 correspondent participated in one of the ten
 terrorist-victim
 funerals in Jerusalem today - that of Moshe Michael Dahan - and
 reported
 that the speakers hailed him as a true model of the synthesis of
 Torah and
 

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Fw: [CTRL] Ariel Sharon, Architect of 9-11?

2001-12-02 Thread Tenorlove

-Caveat Lector-

Uptown is another story.. My friend who lives on East 85th Street
said on Sept. 11 that she had to close her windows and crank up the air
because outdoors it reeked, and she said it smelled not only like fire,
but like dead people. I couldn't smell anything when I was at Lincoln
Center and Carnegie Hall in October.

Tenorlove

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[CTRL] Forbidden Cures

2001-12-02 Thread eric stewart

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By Ken Adachi, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://educate-yourself.org/forbiddencures.html

Introduction  Overview

There are a number of alternative healing therapies
that work so well and cost so little (compared to
conventional treatment), that Organized Medicine, the
Food  Drug Administration, and their overlords in the
Pharmaceutical Industry (The Big Three) would rather
the public not know about them. The reason is obvious:
Alternative, non-toxic therapies represent a potential
loss of billions of dollars to allopathic (drug)
medicine and drug companies.

The Big Three have collectively engaged in a medical
conspiracy for the better part of 70 years to
influence legislative bodies on both the state and
federal level to create regulations that promote the
use of drug medicine while simultaneously creating
restrictive, controlling mechanisms (licencing,
government approval, etc) designed to limit and stifle
the availability of non-drug, alternative modalities.
The conspiracy to limit and eliminate competition from
non-drug therapies began with the Flexner Report of
1910.

Abraham Flexner was engaged by John D. Rockefeller to
run around the country and ‘evaluate' the
effectiveness of therapies taught in medical schools
and other institutions of the healing arts.
Rockefeller wanted to dominate control over petrolem,
petrochemicals, and pharmaceuticals (which are derived
from 'coal tars' or crude oil). He arranged for his
company, Standard Oil of New Jersey to obtain a
controlling interest in a huge German drug cartel
called I. G. Farben. He pulled in his stronger
competitors like Andrew Carnegie and JP Morgan as
partners, while making other, less powerful players,
stockholders in Standard Oil. Those who would not come
into the fold were crushed according to a
Rockefeller biographer (W. Hoffman, David: Report on a
Rockefeller {New York:Lyle Stuart, Inc., 1971}page
24.)

The report Flexner submitted to The Carnegie
Foundation was titled Medical Education in the United
States and Canada. Page 22 of the report said: the
privileges of the medical school can no longer be open
to casual strollers from the highway. It is necessary
to install a doorkeeper who will, by critical
scrutiny, ascertain the fitness of the applicant, a
necessity suggested, in the first place, but
consideration for the candidate, whose time and
talents will serve him better in some other vocation,
if he be unfit for this, and in the second, by
consideration for a public entitled to protection from
those whom the very boldness of modern medical
strategy equips with instruments that, tremendously
effective for good when rightly used, are all the more
terrible for harm if ignorantly or incompetently
employed.

All too often, politicians are prepared to enact laws
that rob citizens of yet another constitutional
freedom under the banner of public protection.
Needless to say, congress swallowed the
recommendations of this report hook, line, and sinker.
It was decided that the American Medical Association
(AMA), would be the doorkeeper. The AMA was now
empowered to certify or de-certify any medical school
in the country on the grounds of whether that school
met the AMA's standards of approved medicine.

The AMA came into existence in 1847. It is a private
organization of allopathic physicians which serves the
interests of its members, especially when it comes to
influencing favorable legislation. It functions in
every sense of the word as a union, although its
members wear white collars instead of blue. Giving the
AMA the power over the certification of medical
schools is the equivalent of giving the Teamsters
Union the exclusive right to decide on the laws of
interstate commerce and transportation. Is it any
wonder that the total number of medical schools in the
United States went from 160 in 1906 (before the
Flexner Report) to 85 in 1920 and further down to 69
schools in 1944? A little like putting the fox in
charge of the hen house, no?

Not surprisingly, Flexner ‘found' that any discipline
that didn't use drugs to help cure the patient was
tantamount to quackery and charlatanism. Medical
schools that offered courses in bioelectric Medicine,
Homeopathy or Eastern Medicine, for example, were told
to either drop these courses from their curriculum or
lose their accreditation and underwriting support. A
few schools resisted for a time, but eventually most
schools cooperated (or were closed down). A similar
scenario was played out in Canada. It was attempted in
England against Homeopathy, but it failed due to the
personal intervention of the Royal Family who had
received much relief and healing at the hands of
Homeopathic healers in the 19th century. By the way,
the AMA was found guilty of conspiracy against
chiropractors in 1987 by a federal judge and fined a
couple of million dollars. Here in America, a
relentless campaign of misinformation, fraud,
deception, and suppression of alternative therapies
and healers has been in place for 

[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: remember, we have some good guys on board

2001-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan



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Austin Fitts [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:20 PMSubject: remember, we have some 
good guys on board


Keep in mind that Mr. Levitt is on board, former 
Director of the SEC . more news on Carlyle from today's "San Francisco 
Chronicle" that may fit nicely into data dump ...


 
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   Return 
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  CalPERS, Carlyle profit from Afghan war 
  David LazarusSunday, December 2, 2001 ©2001 San Francisco 
  Chronicle 
  URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/12/02/BU172807.DTLtype=business 
  
  
  As America's military involvement abroad deepens, profits are increasing 
  for the Carlyle Group -- and, it turns out, for thousands of California civil 
  servants. 
  The Carlyle who, you ask? 
  The Carlyle Group, as in a secretive Washington, D.C., investment firm 
  managing some $14 billion in assets, including stakes in a number of defense- 
  related companies. 
  Carlyle counts among its chieftains former Defense Secretary (and deputy 
  CIA Director) Frank Carlucci, former Secretary of State James Baker and, most 
  notably, former President George Bush. 
  Until October, the Carlyle Group also maintained financial ties with none 
  other than the family of Osama bin Laden, but those links were severed when it 
  was agreed that the relationship was becoming a tad embarrassing for all 
  concerned. 
  What is not well known is that Carlyle's profits also benefit the 1.2 
  million members of the California Public Employees Retirement System, or 
  CalPERS, the largest public pension fund in the United States. 
  CalPERS has about $730 million invested in Carlyle itself and in various 
  Carlyle funds. It owns 5.5 percent of the Carlyle Group in a minority equity 
  stake and has an option to double that holding during the next two years. 
  "We're not too keen on discussing anything related to the political nature 
  of the people at Carlyle," said Pat Macht, a spokeswoman for the fund. But she 
  noted that "Carlyle is among the top five largest private equity partners of 
  CalPERS." 
  Senior Carlyle officials are scheduled to brief CalPERS' investment 
  committee later this month in Sacramento on the performance of the company's 
  assets. 
  The Carlyle Group has cultivated and enjoyed a decidedly low profile for 
  the past 14 years. Yet it has succeeded in attracting to its ranks not just a 
  who's who of Republican bigwigs but also a dazzling array of international 
  politicos. 
  John Major, the former British prime minister, is a Carlyle adviser, as are 
  former Philippine President Fidel Ramos and former Thai Premier Anand 
  Panyarachun. So is a former president of Germany's Bundesbank and a former 
  head of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. 
  Connected? That's an understatement where Carlyle is concerned. 
  And because the Carlyle Group remains privately held, it is not required to 
  disclose details of its investments or business activities. It is commonly 
  known, though, that the firm favors the defense and aerospace sectors, with a 
  wide array of investments in Pentagon affiliates. 
  "Their defense holdings are quite extensive," said Tom Fitton, president of 
  Judicial Watch, a Washington public interest law firm. "Because of their 
  investments, they are a major contractor for the Pentagon." 
  Among Carlyle's holdings is United Defense Industries, a maker of armed 
  vehicles and weapons, which filed in October to raise up to $300 million in an 
  initial public offering of its shares. 
  Judicial Watch filed suit last week to obtain documents shedding light on 
  Carlyle business activities undertaken by President Bush's father, who 
  reportedly met with bin Laden's family in Saudi Arabia at least twice prior to 
  the Sept. 11 attacks. He also has had dealings with a variety of foreign 
  governments. 
  "The appearance is awful," Fitton said. "For the father of our current 
  president to be doing business with foreign governments, there is a clear 
  conflict of interest." 
  Carlyle spokesman Chris Ullman said the elder Bush does little more than 
  give speeches on Carlyle's behalf when abroad and does not call up his son to 
  lobby for Carlyle's business interests. 
  Ullman also said there is nothing improper about the Carlyle Group's 
  phenomenal political connections throughout the world. 
  "These are all former government officials who have chosen to team with us 
  in various capacities," he said. "I stress the fact that they are former 
  government officials." 
  Critics of the Carlyle Group have grown increasingly vocal in recent weeks, 
  particularly over the perception that a private organization with unmistakable 
  links to the White House is benefiting from America's military action in 
  Afghanistan. 
  Because 

[CTRL] mixed muck 12-2

2001-12-02 Thread eric stewart

-Caveat Lector-

Dear President Bush,

Mr. Sharon's warm welcome to the White House today has
many Americans very concerned and wondering if perhaps
you have not been informed of the recent charges that
have been leveled against the Prime Minister of Israel
in the courts of Belgium.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agentsmiley/message/1190

The Process By Which Forced Relocation And Neglect
Combined With The Phony Drug War Are Being Used For
Ethnic Cleansing And Genocide In Thailand
http://www.akha.org/deathofavillage.htm

Because the vast majority of the roughly 30,000 people
who took Cipro in the anthrax scare were treating fear
rather than exposure, the effectiveness of the
bestselling drug was undermined even as its sales were
skyrocketing. The more people who don't have bacterial
infections take antibiotics, the less effective the
drugs are when treating real problems, including TB,
pneumonia, and bad colds.
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0148/lerner.php

The modern western establishment is a vast and cryptic
cult that aggressively infiltrates and consolidates
positions of social influence and control throughout
western civilization, with ambitions that encompass
the entire world. It is a functionalistic hierarchy.
The greater one's proximity to and involvement with
the establishment, and the higher that proximal
portion of the establishment is in the hierarchy, the
more thorough and insistent is the enforcement of
establishment codes of conduct (many of which are
fluid and unwritten).
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/

Attorney General John Ashcroft is considering a plan
to relax restrictions on the F.B.I.'s spying on
religious and political organizations in the United
States, senior government officials said today.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agentsmiley/message/1161

Internal opposition to the plan will exacerbate an
already fractious atmosphere in the FBI since
President Bush took office.
http://www.observer.co.uk/Distribution/Redirect_Artifact/0,4678,0-610381,00.html

Not only has Washington ignored increasing evidence
of Northern Alliance brutality, say critics, but the
Bush administration has gone so far as to signal its
approval for whatever Alliance commanders decide to do
with captured Taliban troops

`Well, the president's policy is dead or alive.'
Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld joked last week with
reporters. `I have my preference.'
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1c=Articlecid=1006902671234call_page=TS_Newscall_pageid=968332188492call_pagepath=News/News

Portland police are no longer alone in their refusal
to interview foreign visitors as part of a federal
terrorism probe.
http://www.koin.com/c6k/news/stories/news-109721420011129-131127.html

The Pandora's box of the American empire is still
open, releasing its monsters and fears on a world
still not fully under its control. The Northern
Alliance is a confederation of monsters. Attaching
dissidents to the chains of a tank and crushing them,
executing defenceless prisoners, raping men and women,
these are all in a day's work for the guardians of the
heroin trade.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/agentsmiley/message/1170

What goes down comes around. Amidst all the attention
to United Airlines' post-September 11 woes, no one
noticed the ringing irony of its tapping John W.
Creighton Jr. as the new CEO to pull it out of a
downward spiral. John Creighton is best known as the
Weyerhaeuser president who turned the timber giant
around in the early 1990s, but he's held another
position closer to the events that sent one United jet
crashing into the World Trade Center and another into
the Pennsylvania countryside two months ago. Creighton
has sat on the board of the California-based oil
multinational Unocal since 1995--the period in which
Unocal became the main American corporate suitor
seeking to do business with the Taliban.
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=specials=scigliano20011108

October 29, 2001- The World Bank has invested over $20
billion in more than 200 projects that extract,
transport, or burn fossil fuels since 1992, according
to a first-of-its-kind global database launched by
SEEN today. SEEN research found that the sum of
lifetime emissions from World Bank projects financed
from 1992 to the present will exceed 40 billion tons
of carbon dioxide, a figure almost two times that of
all global emissions from burning or flaring fossil
fuels in 1998.
http://www.seen.org/

The Bretton Woods Project works as a networker,
information-provider, media informant and watchdog to
scrutinise and influence the World Bank and
International Monetary Fund (IMF). Through briefings,
reports and the bimonthly digest Bretton Woods Update,
it monitors projects, policy reforms and the overall
management of the Bretton Woods institutions with
special emphasis on environmental and social concerns.
http://www.brettonwoodsproject.org/

For decades, individuals and broad-based movements in
the Global 

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**The Myths of Democracy and Pluralism vs Ruling Class/Conspiracy Theories
  
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plethora of interests have hand or is democratic process a myth by which
a ruling class obtains the consent of the governed for its exploitive,
parasitical social and economic engineering?

 If the ruling class/conspiracy paradigm is correct, is the ruling
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Re: [CTRL] Article by Robert L. Pappas, Col. USMC (RET)

2001-12-02 Thread John A. O'Neal

-Caveat Lector-

Bob Pappa's Article should be included as an epilog to the
treatment  afforded to the Vietnam War in *every* American History textbook
, in *every* classroom in America. Maybe the GOD of us all, who has those
58,151 patriots in HIS presence will see to it that those Colonel Pappas
mentionsAND others of the same ilk, who have not sought forgiveness and
done penance,spends their eternity in the presence of the Custodian of
Hell.  This Nation *STILL* owes a  debt to the 8,744,000 who served in that
war, including those who served, were wounded or died there between 1959
and 1964. I would remind  ALL, that  those serving now and going in harm's
way, under this Nation's banner, deserve no less than 100% support from
it's citizens. Failure to give this support *should* preclude their
enjoyment of *any* benefit accrued from being an American. Bitch all you
want, *after* they are out of harm's way...but then, the bitching should
*never* be directed  toward them, individually or collectively.

I'm sure that on this list will  take issue with what I've said..Please
do so, privately.

John A. O'Neal




At 10:15 PM 12/02/2001 -0500, you wrote:
-Caveat Lector-

http://www.gulf1.com/COLUMNS/Pappas/20a.htm

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Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War!


HITRAP
Honesty, Integrity, Trust, Responsibility, Accountability and People.
by Robert L. Pappas,
Col. USMC (RET)

It's time to get this off my chest On November 26th, Larry King hosted US
Secretary of State Colin Powell for a wide-ranging discussion of the War on
Terrorism. It was an excellent performance by General Powell who deftly
maneuvered through the maze of King's land mines. A long time commentator,
anchor and moderator of FACE THE NATION, CBS News chief Washington
correspondent, Bob Schieffer, followed General Powell. It was the latter
interview that prompts this essay. Messieurs King and Schieffer were involved
in a dialogue about how the American people are reacting to the War on
Terrorism.

SCHIEFFER: ... it's a story on two fronts, but it's a story that we not only
are covering, it's a story that we know whose side we're on here. This is not
covering Vietnam, where there's a big debate over whether American troops
ought to be sent off to some country that none of us had ever heard of before
the troops went there. To help people, form a democracy, or whatever it was
we were trying to do. ...And I'm still not sure we really know.

SCHIEFFER: This (ed. note, the attack on America) is something where these
are our people. These were Americans, innocent Americans, women and children.
I now know two people who died.

KING: Do you?

SCHIEFFER: As a result of this. And I mean, this is something we were all
involved in. So this is different.

Ah, yes. How marvelously arrogant and blissfully ignorant, THIS IS
DIFFERENT.

With that pile of bovine scatology, scar covered wounds that have been slow
healing for decades were reopened as with a rusty knife. The wounds came, not
just from the 500 missions this writer flew, not only from being shot down,
and not even from enduring the capture or loss of close friends. The lasting
wounds came from serving the interest of a nation whose political,
educational, entertainment, and spiritual leaders understood pathetic little
of the reasons for US involvement, and could have cared less about the men
and women who served there.

The scars came from protecting the broad interests of a generation that did
not deserve it, and who to this day are so arrogant and ignorant as to
believe that they were righteous in their opposition to the Vietnam War. It
is this writer's assertion that it was the United States' action in Vietnam,
in conjunction with the brilliant geopolitical skills of Richard Milhous
Nixon notwithstanding his lack of other virtues, that rendered the first body
blow to the Soviet Union, thus stemming its quest for world domination and
resulted in its eventual collapse both as an economic system and
totalitarian, evil empire and has made possible unprecedented economic
well-being.

The beauty of this great Republic is that Americans are able to exercise
constitutionally guaranteed freedoms without fear of government reprisal. In
this land, unlike most others, reasonable people can disagree on issues of
importance without resorting to violence, as was eloquently illustrated
during the 2000 elections. It was for the Constitution, for freedom and the
blessings of liberty that the writer devoted a major portion of his adult
life in the armed service of this great nation.

Schieffer's manifest bewildering, arrogant and ignorant attitude about the
Vietnam War reflects the attitude of many during the sixties and early
seventies. In fact, his and others with similar attitudes grown large
gradually affected the outcome of that war and the loss of 58,000 patriots.
Although the writer has strongly held opinions about that war, they are about
the conduct thereof not about 

Re: [CTRL] Article by Robert L. Pappas, Col. USMC (RET)

2001-12-02 Thread Joe Gillaspie

-Caveat Lector-

 FYI

 http://www.gulf1.com/COLUMNS/Pappas/20a.htm

 WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War!

 HITRAP
 Honesty, Integrity, Trust, Responsibility, Accountability and People.
 by Robert L. Pappas,
 Col. USMC (RET)

 It's time to get this off my chest On November 26th, Larry King hosted US
 Secretary of State Colin Powell for a wide-ranging discussion of the War on
 Terrorism. It was an excellent performance by General Powell who deftly
 maneuvered through the maze of King's land mines. A long time commentator,
 anchor and moderator of FACE THE NATION, CBS News chief Washington
 correspondent, Bob Schieffer, followed General Powell. It was the latter
 interview that prompts this essay. Messieurs King and Schieffer were involved
 in a dialogue about how the American people are reacting to the War on
 Terrorism.

 SCHIEFFER: ... it's a story on two fronts, but it's a story that we not only
 are covering, it's a story that we know whose side we're on here. This is not
 covering Vietnam, where there's a big debate over whether American troops
 ought to be sent off to some country that none of us had ever heard of before
 the troops went there. To help people, form a democracy, or whatever it was
 we were trying to do. ...And I'm still not sure we really know.

 SCHIEFFER: This (ed. note, the attack on America) is something where these
 are our people. These were Americans, innocent Americans, women and children.
 I now know two people who died.

 KING: Do you?

 SCHIEFFER: As a result of this. And I mean, this is something we were all
 involved in. So this is different.

 Ah, yes. How marvelously arrogant and blissfully ignorant, THIS IS
 DIFFERENT.

 With that pile of bovine scatology, scar covered wounds that have been slow
 healing for decades were reopened as with a rusty knife. The wounds came, not
 just from the 500 missions this writer flew, not only from being shot down,
 and not even from enduring the capture or loss of close friends. The lasting
 wounds came from serving the interest of a nation whose political,
 educational, entertainment, and spiritual leaders understood pathetic little
 of the reasons for US involvement, and could have cared less about the men
 and women who served there.

 The scars came from protecting the broad interests of a generation that did
 not deserve it, and who to this day are so arrogant and ignorant as to
 believe that they were righteous in their opposition to the Vietnam War. It
 is this writer's assertion that it was the United States' action in Vietnam,
 in conjunction with the brilliant geopolitical skills of Richard Milhous
 Nixon notwithstanding his lack of other virtues, that rendered the first body
 blow to the Soviet Union, thus stemming its quest for world domination and
 resulted in its eventual collapse both as an economic system and
 totalitarian, evil empire and has made possible unprecedented economic
 well-being.

 The beauty of this great Republic is that Americans are able to exercise
 constitutionally guaranteed freedoms without fear of government reprisal. In
 this land, unlike most others, reasonable people can disagree on issues of
 importance without resorting to violence, as was eloquently illustrated
 during the 2000 elections. It was for the Constitution, for freedom and the
 blessings of liberty that the writer devoted a major portion of his adult
 life in the armed service of this great nation.

 Schieffer's manifest bewildering, arrogant and ignorant attitude about the
 Vietnam War reflects the attitude of many during the sixties and early
 seventies. In fact, his and others with similar attitudes grown large
 gradually affected the outcome of that war and the loss of 58,000 patriots.
 Although the writer has strongly held opinions about that war, they are about
 the conduct thereof not about its underlying purpose.

 In the early 1990s, Mr. Russ Davis wrote a commentary in the Utica, New York,
 Observer Dispatch titled, Let God sort sinners from the saints. In the
 article he exemplified a segment of the U.S. population whose behavior during
 the Vietnam War was characterized as heroic by some and dishonorable by
 others. Fleeing to Canada or spending time in jail was for them a welcome
 alternative to the risk of dying in a poorly understood and worse, poorly
 executed war.

 Traditionally, through the elective process, patriotic loyalty has been
 imputed in the nation's elected leaders; and by extrapolation to the nation,
 states, communities, and ultimately to one another. Mr. Davis' article noted
 above touched lightly on the essence of loyalty when he described a man who
 he greatly respected, but who did not come to grips with the reality of his
 own student deferment until he faced the names on The Wall. There, in front
 of Davis' friend was the name of someone he knew and who out of loyalty to
 his fellows, to the Constitution of the United States, had the personal
 

[CTRL] HR 3162 -The Police State is Here!

2001-12-02 Thread THe eXTReMiST

-Caveat Lector-

HR 3162 -The Police State is Here!
http://www.infowars.com/HR_3162.html
Here It Is: A Wish List Granted That Would Make Adolph Hitler Proud.

 From Warantless Secret Searches to Defining Any Criminal Activity as Terrorism, Our 
Constitutional Republic Was Gutted on Friday, October 26.

H.R.3162 Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to 
Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (USA PATRIOT ACT) Act of 2001 (Received in the 
Senate)

Authority For Delaying Notice Of The Execution Of A Warrant.
http://www.infowars.com/HR_3162/Sec_213.htm

Newsflash: The Secret Warantless Searches And Other Police State Measures In The Bill 
Are Not Sunsetted. The Media And The Government Are Lying To You.
http://www.infowars.com/HR_3162/Sec_224.htm

Your So-called Protection Gives You No Protection. It Is Under Admiralty And Maritime 
Jurisdiction
http://www.infowars.com/HR_3162/Sec_316.htm

SEC. 802. Definition Of Domestic Terrorism.
http://www.infowars.com/HR_3162/Sec_802.htm

Bulk Cash Smuggling Into Or Out Of The United States
http://www.infowars.com/HR_3162/Sec-371.htm

Reporting Of Suspicious Activities By Underground Banking Systems.
http://www.infowars.com/HR_3162/Sec_359.htm

Use Of Authority Of United States Executive Directors.
http://www.infowars.com/HR_3162/Sec_360.htm


-THe eXTReMiST
http://www.geocities.com/apatriot_2000/
Hear my voice, O God, in my prayer: preserve my life from fear of the enemy. Hide me 
from the secret counsel of the wicked; from the insurrection of the workers of 
iniquity: Who whet their tongue like a sword, and bend their bows to shoot their 
arrows, even bitter words: That they may shoot in secret at the perfect: suddenly do 
they shoot at him, and fear not. They encourage themselves in an evil matter: they 
commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them? They search out 
iniquities; they accomplish a diligent search: both the inward thought of every one of 
them, and the heart, is deep. But God shall shoot at them with an arrow; suddenly 
shall they be wounded. So they shall make their own tongue to fall upon themselves: 
all that see them shall flee away. And all men shall fear, and shall declare the work 
of God; for they shall wisely consider of his doing. The righteous shall be glad in 
the LORD, and shall trust in him; and all the upright in heart shall glory. -Ps
alms: 64:1-9

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[CTRL] Groups criticize use of cluster bombs

2001-12-02 Thread Steve

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Last month, Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said
it was unfortunate that the bomblets and aid packages were the same color
and said the Pentagon would change the color of the food rations. 
 -- DUH!

Groups criticize use of cluster bombs

By ED JOHNSON, Associated Press

LONDON (December 2, 2001 11:27 p.m. EST) - The war on terror in
Afghanistan has left a deadly legacy of unexploded cluster bombs capable of
maiming or killing thousands of civilians, campaign groups said Monday.

Landmine Action and the Diana, Princess of Wales Memorial Fund claim
U.S.-led bombing missions have dropped some 600 cluster bombs, each
containing 202 bomblets, on Afghanistan.

They estimate up to 30 percent of the bomblets would not have exploded on
impact, and, in a statement released Monday, called for an international law
requiring nations who drop the bombs to clear them.

Like land mines, unexploded cluster bombs represent a lethal threat, said
Andrew Purkis, chief executive of the fund set up in Diana's memory. They
can lie in the ground for years, until a child or a farmer disturbs them.

Cluster bombs drop smaller bombs, called bomblets, over a wide area.
Some explode on contact. Others delay exploding until a certain amount of
time has passed, becoming what amounts to an air-dropped minefield.

Richard Lloyd, director of Landmine Action, said Afghan children had already
been injured, after mistaking the bomblets for aid packages dropped by the
U.S. Air Force. Both are the same bright yellow color.

The United States has defended the use of cluster bombs in its campaign to
topple the Taliban regime and force out Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida
terrorist network.

Last month, Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said it
was unfortunate that the bomblets and aid packages were the same color
and said the Pentagon would change the color of the food rations.

Lloyd called for a debate on cluster bombs at a conference in Geneva later
this month to review the 1980 United Nations Convention on Certain
Conventional Weapons.

He said nations who use cluster bombs should be legally responsible for
clearing them away, for providing appropriate warnings to civilians and for
giving the United Nations and mine clearance groups information about the
types of bombs used.

Campaigners also called for a permanent ban on the use of cluster bombs
against military targets in civilian areas and said they should be fitted with
self-destruct mechanisms which would cause them to detonate if they did not
explode on impact.

Last month, leaders of Green parties with government roles in France,
Belgium and Finland condemned U.S. use of cluster bombs in Afghanistan,
echoing the concerns of several humanitarian groups.


If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator.
 -GW Bush during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on 12/18/2000.
As broadcast on CNN and available in transcript on their website
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] good thinking

2001-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan



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===
A quick scratch w/o notes
Om
K

In a message dated 12/2/01 6:01:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 - Original Message -

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 1:00 PM

Subject: Re: [CIA-DRUGS] good thinking



Actually, not answering you was the one remotely interesting or honest point
the rabid hyena made just now, so I will answer you.





 In a message dated 12/1/01 7:33:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



  native Arab Jihadists don't commit suicide for the CIA, they commit

 suicide for Osama  Allah. 



  Your acceptence of party line when it serves your paranoia and  your

 unability to progress beyond physical death will keep you playing the game

 and a usefool tool carrying water for the death merchants.


You mean native Arab Jihadists will commit suicide for the CIA - given the
right mind control - deus ex machina - a very remote possibility, given their
roots and connections.  And all those UN reports about mass murder in the
Nuba (not the Skull and Bones, the Nuba) is all a paranoid dream - the Nuba
should just 'progress beyond it'?  the Hazara too?  we don't have to think in
detail about that?  - just get over it?  It's all my ethnic paranoia?  Boy -
I'm glad I got that straight.



=
The CIA ain't no HQ, nothing but a useful arm as are many orgs. There has
been extensive contact between arab nationalists and many original
mind-control operatives, especially Egypt. And there is an interesting
history of islamic use of mind control and exstensive contact between
cultures, especially at the secret society level.  Paperclip was not just a
US phenom.

I said nothing of tragedies being dreams, hasn't there been enough? Some
folks get reports, some get task forces, - it is the same ole story   - kill
the indians and take the land - by any means possible.
=




I thought it would be redundant to say that 'progressing beyone death' does
not have any practical political meaning for me - I don't think of warfare as
a metaphysical experience, and hundreds of thousands, literally, hundreds of
thousands, of Nuba, Hazara and on and on, have 'progressed beyond physical
death' the hard way at the hands of the fascist Islamic Jihad.  Chinese
military intelligence had hegemony in the Sudan - not the CIA.  I have no
intention of 'progressing beyond' political discussion of that.  Genocide is
on the table.  We talk about genocide - and by all means, the death merchants
that finance these regimes.



==
Yes, and you have asserted that Ghandian principles are not valid and I would
gather that you saw no practical political meaning in Ghandi's sea salt
production either.

Many hoodwinks are used, playing all and any cards that blot out reason in
favour of emotional predicated reactions. The fear of death being one very
subtle one and some times an all but real one.

Gee, the Chinese are now in the WTO, hire Kissassinger for their pipeline, 90
percent of santa's sleigh is made in chinese factories, etc, etc and you want
to cast them as a heavy? Well, I guess it works if ya don't look too hard.

Yeah Genicide and you are being a cheerleader for one cideside.

Don't ya know the death merchants bombs have shelf life and they need their
kitty refilled.

War is not the amswer and what is going on is not organic.
=




 Let me add another wrinkle  . . .



 When and why did Persia change its name to Iran?


1935 - nationalist rejection of the ancient/colonial Greek/European
appelation.  No doubt you have a point about Schroeder banking and Iranian
oil here.

==
Hmm, when did Hitler come into power. What did hitler want to do? What was
hitler's realpolitick plan? - Gee is it similar to what is playing out?
==




 Where does die spinne have a rather large presence?


The Dulles-built Peronist league of cooperating intelligence agencies.

=
Dulles is from an old family of traitors. yes, they have many contacts in
South America as do their nazi friends. But the Dulles family is from
switzerland, where allen spent the war, where he accepted surrender from
certain Italian and German forces the day before the official surrender.  And
die spinne has a huge egyptian/syrian/irani/iraqi/saudi presence.
=




 Does Marionette Programming mean anything to you?


Project Monarch, the resumption of a mind-control project called Marionette
Programming, which started in Nazi Germany. The basic component of the
Monarch Program is the sophisticated manipulation of the mind, using extreme
trauma to induce Multiple Personality Disorder - ie - the intentional public
trauma of the JFK murder to induce political docility - the analogy being to
9/11.  Equally obvious, and useful, to Osama bin Laden, and his publicly
repeated methodology - to use terrorist Marionette Programming to trigger a
massive regional Islamic Jihad - it's on almost every video he made.

=
As far as the american political reality and real-politic who 

[CTRL] Fwd: Inside The Enron Meltdown

2001-12-02 Thread Kris Millegan



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lacking from the nation's largest hosting provider--financial stability.

U.K.-based Cable  Wireless said on Friday it is buying some of the assets and most of 
the business activities of Exodus for about $850 million, and will invest another $250 
million in the company. Exodus had filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in 
September, and William Krause, Exodus CEO was expected to reveal a plan to its board 
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[CTRL] The Name's the Game

2001-12-02 Thread Euphorian

-Caveat Lector-

Go here to find out the most statistically popular names in the U.S.
for many a year (over 120 of them years).

Note:  at the site you will see the hot linques.

http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/NOTES/note139/note139.html

}}}Begin
ACTUARIAL NOTE

Number 139
SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION
Originally published June 1998 (updated September 2001)
Office of the Chief Actuary
Name Distributions in the Social Security Area
by Michael W. Shackleford, A.S.A.
Beginning in 1998, for births in 1996 and 1997, the Office of the
Chief
Actuary has published lists of given names in popularity order
by gender
and year of birth.  The original version of these lists
were published
as Actuarial Note 139.
Since the inception of this
project updates have been added for births in
1998, 1999, 2000, and
2001 as well as years prior to 1996.
The source of the data have been samplings from Social Security
Number
card applications.  The size of the sample has ranged from 1%
to 100%
depending on the data available at the time the list was
compiled.  The
selection criteria is based on the last four digits of
the Social Security
Number, which are random and not correlated with
a particular geographical
region.  In cases where multiple cards
were issued to the same
person, a rea
son for this might be a lost card or a name change, the name on
the last application was used.  Unless otherwise stated birth on U.S. soil
is not required for inclusion in the sample.  An exception to this rule are
the t
op 1000 lists for each decade.
The following is a listing of information available since the inception of
this project.
Original actuarial note.

Original actuarial note,
including top three names of each year, 1900-1997.
Top names in recent years.

 Top 100 names for births in 2001.
Top 1000 names for births in 2000.
Top 5 names by state for male births in 2000.
Top 5 names by state for female births in 2000.
Top 100 names for births in 2000.
Top 1000 names for births in 1999.
Top 5 names by state for male births in 1999.
Top 5 names by state for female births in 1999.
Introduction to 1998 update including top 40 names for
births in 1998.
Top 1000 names for births in 1998.
Top 5 names by state for male births in 1998.
Top 5 names by state for female births in 1998.
Large list of names for girls born in 1997.
Large list of names for boys born in 1997.
Large list of names for girls born in 1996.
Large list of names for boys born in 1996.
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[CTRL] Holiday Cheer

2001-12-02 Thread Euphorian

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From
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/scotland/newsid_1687000/1687918.st
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Sunday, 2 December, 2001, 13:26 GMT
Church concern over 'Satan's Grotto'

The display opens in two weeks (mock-up image)
Religious groups are appealing to parents to keep their children away
from a new visitor attraction called Satan's Grotto.
The Christmas display at the Edinburgh Dungeon opens to the public on
15 December and features elves impaled on spikes and robins roasting
on an open fire while Santa gently boils in a witch's cauldron.
But religious leaders have branded the site, which shows Satan
sitting on a throne surrounded by books on Devil worship, as
blasphemous and dangerous.
A leading psychologist also said there are dangers in allowing
children as young as eight to see the display.

We have turned the nice idea of Santa's Grotto into something bad but
we are not out to offend anyone

Scott Williamson, Edinburgh Dungeon







The marketing company behind the grotto announced its plans on Sunday 2 December  - 
the first Sunday of Advent.
Merlin Entertainments said actors playing Satan would ask children who enter the 
grotto if they have been bad and offer nasty presents instead of sweets.
A coffin pulled by skeletons will be erected in place of Santa's usual sleigh and 
reindeers.
The display will add to other attractions at the Edinburgh Dungeon near Waverly 
Bridge, which features the lives of Scotland's most macabre crimes and criminals, 
including the Galloway cannibal Sawney Bean and bodysnatche
rs Burke and Hare.
But Edinburgh Dungeon manager, Scott Williamson, 24, said the event was just harmless 
fun.
Devil worship
From a holier-than-thou perspective, I can see why the churches are upset, he said.
We have turned the nice idea of Santa's Grotto into something bad but we are not out 
to offend anyone.
It is aimed at adults and children. We leave it to parents' discretion to allow young 
children.

Glorifying and promoting the occult as a Christmas attraction is not only very 
tasteless but sad and very dangerous

Colin Hart, Christian Institute







There is a slight occult idea behind it, but we are not trying to promote Devil 
worship.
This view however was not shared by church groups and a leading psychologist.
Jim Cowie, convener of the Church of Scotland's Board for Social Responsibility, urged 
parents to keep their children away from the display.
He said: This could become the focus of an anti-Christ view of Christmas.
Christmas for most people is in the realms of the commercial world where there are no 
moral values and this is a very sad example of it.
The organisation will doubtless say that there is nothing religious in what they are 
doing but they are of playing on the idea of torture and evil.
'Bizarre and blasphemous'
It is very dangerous to highlight the dark and evil side at Christmas, and aim it at 
children. It is terrible to use the image of glorifying Satan to make money.
Colin Hart, director of the Christian Institute, called for Edinburgh City Council to 
ban the grotto.
He said: This is bizarre and blasphemous. Glorifying and promoting the occult as a 
Christmas attraction is not only very tasteless but sad and very dangerous.

Operating this grotto runs completely contrary to the virtues that Christmas is about, 
such as sharing and goodwill

Dr Geoff Scobie, Glasgow University







Peter Kearney, spokesman for the Roman Catholic, said that Christmas
should be about celebrating the birth of Christ.
Glasgow University psychologist Dr Geoff Scobie said the display
could be easily played down but there were dangers in letting
children see it.
What one really has to be careful of is giving children the
impression that being bad or evil gets you gifts, he said.
It is very dangerous to reward children for being bad. It could
encourage them to be violent, aggressive and intimidating to others.

Operating this grotto runs completely contrary to the virtues that
Christmas is about, such as sharing and goodwill. It extols the
virtues of being bad.
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[CTRL] Goldbergs: A Family Affair

2001-12-02 Thread Euphorian

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First Mom and her Jonah ... now Bernie ...

From
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Goldberg on CBS: Nothing Good to Report
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, December 3, 2001; Page C01
It's not every day that someone likens Dan Rather and CBS News to the
Mafia.
Or declares that the don in this case is The Dan, who wanted me
whacked.
Or calls the CBS brass a bunch of hypocrites so consumed by liberal
bias that they reflexively slant the news.
The source of this vitriolic attack is none other than Bernard
Goldberg, a CBS correspondent for 28 years who left the network last
year. In his forthcoming book, Bias, published by the conservative
house Regnery Publishing, Goldberg unloads on his ex-employer.
What's striking is the intensely personal nature of Goldberg's
assault. He describes Rather as a generous man who is also ruthless
and unforgiving, with a touch of Richard Nixon's paranoia. He
accuses one corresponden
t of junk journalism. And he says CBS News President Andrew Heyward once told him: 
Look, Bernie, of course there's a liberal bias in the news. All the networks tilt 
left. . . . If you repeat any of this, I'll deny it.

Heyward declined to be drawn into a debate with Goldberg, saying: Bernie asked to see 
me before the book was published and said he didn't want to be portrayed as a liar or 
a disgruntled employee. Therefore, I have no com
ment.
Goldberg became something of a pariah at CBS after accusing the network of liberal 
bias in a 1996 op-ed piece for the Wall Street Journal.
Some CBS insiders describe Goldberg as a talented journalist who became increasingly 
bitter and isolated at the network. They are stunned that he would betray Heyward, a 
longtime friend who refused to fire him during the
Journal controversy, pushed to get him a spot at 60 Minutes II and kept him on the 
payroll until Goldberg could qualify for a larger pension at 55.
In the end, he seemed to think his job was to report on CBS News instead of reporting 
for CBS News, said Bob Schieffer, chief Washington correspondent. Bernie just seemed 
to be upset about everything. He was upset with
 the world.
Correspondent Eric Engberg said Goldberg committed an act of treason and decided the 
best way to sell a book is to trash your friends and former colleagues. . . . He 
didn't have many friends in this organization becaus
e he was a selfish, self-involved guy who was not a team player.
Engberg accused Goldberg of a sleazy, snake-in-the-grass style for not complaining 
to him before blasting him in the Journal over his report ridiculing Steve Forbes's 
flat-tax plan.
Goldberg, who now works for HBO's Real Sports, said yesterday he wrote the book 
because he cares about journalism and that he left out a bunch of things that might 
really embarrass people. . . .
Whenever you raise an issue like this, they close ranks and close their minds. 
They're just going to call me these terrible vicious names instead of looking at the 
problem. . . . They don't like the people they're broadc
asting to. I can't tell you how many times I heard the term 'white trash' thrown 
around. I come from a lower-middle-class background and I resent that.
Rather declined to comment, but told the Dallas Morning News in 1996 that he wouldn't 
let anyone intimidate him into reporting the news their way.
To which Goldberg writes: Why is it that when journalists write something tough about 
other people it's called 'news,' but when someone writes something tough about news 
people like Dan Rather it's called 'intimidation'?

In Goldberg's view, CBS staffers are too arrogant to examine the leftward tilt of 
their reporting, which he says is shared by the other major networks. (Only Andy 
Rooney sent a supportive note after the Journal article.
)
Goldberg describes a CBS conference call in which a Washington staffer nonchalantly 
referred to a presidential candidate as 'Gary Bauer, the little nut from the Christian 
group.'  No one, says Goldberg, raised an object
ion.
Bias devotes considerable attention to the subject of race. During the May 2000 
sweeps, Goldberg says, CBS's 48 Hours and NBC's Dateline ran no stories involving 
blacks, and ABC's 20/20 ran two. (The lone exceptio
n was 60 Minutes, on which seven of 12 stories featured blacks as main characters.)
During a 1999 story for 48 Hours on a  teenager in jail, Goldberg says, a New York 
producer asked his field producer, What is she?
 'She's black,' the producer told his boss in New York, 'but she's light-skinned.' He 
felt he had to say that to get the okay to proceed with the story. Another producer 
is quoted as saying the bosses were not subtle a
t all. They made it pretty damn clear to me that 'we want stories with white folks.' 
Susan Zirinsky, executive producer of 48 Hours, says Goldberg is merely making 
assumptions.
There's not one fact in there, she says. These are charges without validation. If 
you can't