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Now I ain't beatin' my own drum laydyes and gentermens, but I 've been watching
this seep up from the ground like an early spring fogginess off the bayou, misting
ever so slightly above the ground and then up through the trees ... we still got
visibility folks ... don't bail out ... keep your seats. Anyway, with the events in
Spain
(blocking the North Africans, the hostel burnings in Germany, the Belgians' elections,
and others, they themselves watching their aeons-old societies being eroded by
excessive (to them) immigration and dilution of the Old Stock, this is not surprising.
The Socialists are conceding.
AER
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Jospin quits after Le Pen beats him into run-off
By Robert Graham and Raphael Minder in Paris, and FT.com staff
Published: April 21 2002 19:00 | Last Updated: April 22 2002 07:57
Jacques Chirac on Sunday night looked set to retain the French presidency for a
second term as a disgruntled electorate gave a huge protest vote to Jean-Marie Le
Pen, the hard right leader of the National Front ejecting Socialist premier Lionel
Jospin from the second round contest.
Emerging victorious from the first round Mr Chirac immediately sought to rally the
nation warning of a threat to democracy should the extremist 73 year-old Mr Le Pen
be elected France's next head of state.
Mr Jospin on Sunday night conceded defeat after gaining a provisional 16 per cent,
behind the 17.2 per cent gained by Mr Le Pen and Mr Chirac's 20 per cent. He also
announced he would resign from the premiership and withdraw from politics once the
second round vote was over on May 5.
The vote was the biggest electoral upset in France's post-war political history. The
results are an enormous clap of thunder - the fact that the extreme right represents
20 per cent is a very worrying sign for France and our democracy, Mr Jospin said.
In addition to Mr Le Pen, Bruno Mégret, his onetime ally and dauphin in the National
Front, received 3 per cent of the vote.
The French electorate now faces a second-round choice between the 69 year-old
outgoing president, whose image has suffered from corruption scandals and Mr Le
Pen, a former paratrooper whose National Front has openly identified with racist
policies and has no parliamentary representation.
Thousands of anti-Le Pen protesters took to the streets of Paris early on Monday.
Reuters news agency reported that police had used tear gas against the
demonstrators, though there were no reports of injuries.
The contest raises the prospect of a tilt towards the right in France which will
further
affect the political colour of Europe after the impact of the Berlusconi government in
Italy.
What is at stake to day is national cohesion, said Mr Chirac on Sunday night. If an
election allows rejection and dissatisfaction to be expressed, this is not enough to
form the basis of a government's policy.
France's moderate and fragmented right is expected to rally round Mr Chirac for the
second round. On Sunday night pollsters forecast a 78-22 per cent split in favour of
Mr Chirac. But this may not provide enough momentum for the moderate right to win
a tough general election in June - and without control of parliament France would
face another left-right cohabitation.
All the ingredients are unfortunately now there to get a co-habitation, said Alain
Madelin, the liberal leader who won less than 4 per cent but who is a an important
potential Chirac ally.
Commentators said in the unlikely event of Mr Le Pen being elected president of
France, this would raise far worse problems for the European Union than those
presented by the entry of the Haidar faction into the Austrian government three years
ago.
This is a big defeat for the two leaders of the establishment, Mr Le Pen said on
Sunday night. This is first of all a rejection by the French people of the ineffective
way in which they have been governed.
Mr Le Pen profited from an election system which allowed 16 candidates to enter the
field. His support was eroded by the three hard left candidates, the Communist and
Green candidates Jean-Pierre Chevenement, his former interior minister. But none
of these candiates believed his presence in the second round was in doubt.
The vote saw an unprecedented level of abstention with 28 per cent of voters staying
away from the polling booths.
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Monday, April 22, 2002
French press agog at Le Pen poll shock
PARIS, April 22 (Reuters) - Following is a selection of headlines and commentary in
early Monday editions of French newspapers after far-right nationalist Jean-Marie Le
Pen unexpectedly won through to the final round of presidential elections.
Le Pen beat Socialist Prime Minister Lionel Jospin into third place in Sunday's first
round of voting and will face conservative President Jacques Chirac in the May 5
runoff.
Many newspapers, from Communist-supporting Humanite to the conservative le
Figaro, abandoned their usual format to splash banner one-word headlines after an
electoral upset that has sent shockwaves across France and its European
neighbours.
LIBERATION (left-leaning daily)
- Under a single-word front-page headline NON, the paper says thousands of
people descended into the streets to protest after far-right leader Le Pen gained a
place in the second round of presidential elections against Jacques Chirac.
In an editorial headlined Awful, the paper says the suicide of the left, defeated
in
the first round for the first time since 1969, leaves a caricature of a contest that
is in
many ways shameful.
LE FIGARO (conservative daily)
- Earthquake. For the first time since 1969 the left will be absent from the second
round.
The large number of candidates on the left and extreme left eroded the Jospin vote.
The prime minister also paid in stinging fashion for his five years in government and
a blurred political message throughout his campaign.
HUMANITE (former Communist party newspaper)
- The newspaper runs the headline NON! under a picture of Le Pen's face daubed
with a red cross. France does not deserve this. Exasperation and frustration
provoke a scathing disavowal of policies carried out for years. A dangerous situation
is created, reads the paper's front-page comment.
PARISIEN (tabloid)
- Shock.
FRANCE SOIR (tabloid)
- The Le Pen bomb.
A campaign focused on insecurity, a fragmented vote shared between 16
candidates and record abstentions led to this unimaginable result.
LES ECHOS (financial daily)
- Presidential earthquake. Shocked left-wing leaders urge voters to block the path to
power of Jean-Marie Le Pen.
Jean-Marie Le Pen profited from the rise of insecurity to the top of the political
agenda. Upsetting France's political life and its image abroad, the result places
Jacques Chirac in the position of almost certain victor in the second round.
LA TRIBUNE (financial daily)
- Le Pen imposes a duel laden with menace on Chirac.
Almost a third of voters supported candidates whose stock in trade is hatred of
parliamentary democracy. The result is above all an act of defiance to the governing
parties of both right and left who managed France over the years.
INTERNATIONAL HERALD TRIBUNE (published in Paris)
- In one of post-war Europe's most startling political implosions, Jean-Marie Le Pen,
the rightist extremist who has run on racially divisive platforms for three decades,
advances into final round of French presidential election. (web edition)
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This makes no sense at all. If they offend the leaders of a UN group, how is it
that any substitutes aren't gonna have an even stricter agenda to go by and bye (by
the book, by the numbers, bye-bye Ariel). Watch out for this when Foul is cried
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Israeli anger aimed at 'unfit' UN envoy
By Ross Dunn, Herald Correspondent in Jerusalem
April 22 2002
Israel yesterday launched unprecedented criticism against the United Nations special
Middle East envoy, Terje Roed-Larsen, saying he should be considered persona non
grata and was no longer fit to serve in the region.
The unusually harsh language used against him came after he described conditions
in the Jenin refugee camp after an Israeli Army incursion as horrifying beyond
belief.
Mr Larsen is among three leading UN officials whom Israel says are biased and must
be excluded from an inquiry into the army's military assault against Jenin.
Israel has agree to co-operate with the investigation, but officials in Jerusalem said
it
must not include Mr Roed-Larsen, the UN Human Rights high commissioner, Mary
Robinson, and Peter Hansen, who as director-general of the UN Relief and Works
Agency is responsible for the Palestinian refugee camps.
Israeli officials say all three have strongly denounced the army's actions in recent
days, thereby making them incapable of presenting a fair picture.
Mr Roed-Larsen, who during a tour of Jenin last week spoke out against the Israeli
Army's operations, came in for heavy criticism during a meeting of the Israeli cabinet.
The Attorney-General, Elyakim Rubinstein, said the Government should consider
declaring him persona non grata. Mr Rubinstein said he had reviewed Mr Larsen's
recent statements and described
them as lies. Some cabinet ministers were similarly outraged.
Larsen has disqualified himself from continuing as an honest broker between Israel
and the Palestinians, said the Trade and Industry Minister, Dalia Itzik.
The Defence Minister, Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, said Mr Roed-Larsen was guilty of
incitement against Israel.
It is not only UN officials who are viewing what happened in Jenin with alarm. The US
Under-Secretary of State, William Burns, toured the camp at the weekend and said
the situation there was a terrible human tragedy.
It is obvious that what happened in the Jenin camp has caused enormous human
suffering for thousands of Palestinian civilians, Mr Burns said.
But he and Mr Larsen have refused to say whether they had seen any evidence to
support the claims of the Palestinian leadership that a massacre had happened.
The Palestinian chief negotiator, Saeb Erekat, said he hoped the UN mission would
lead to an international force to protect Palestinians. We hope that the first stop
after
the panel submits this report is the creation of an international force, he said.
Also yesterday, Israeli troops began withdrawing from some parts of the West Bank,
while stepping up operations in other areas of the territory.
Tanks fired into the air as they began pulling out of Nablus, the largest Palestinian
self-rule area in the West Bank.
The soldiers also withdrew from most parts of Ramallah but continued to surround
the city headquarters of the Palestinian leader, Yasser Arafat.
Security officials were discussing the possibility of storming the compound. The
action would be designed to arrest four Palestinians holed up inside Mr Arafat's
offices who are wanted over the murder of the Israeli tourism minister, Rehavam
Ze'evi, last October.
And an elite Israeli commando unit raided the Qalandiyah refugee camp in Ramallah,
searching for what the army referred to as wanted Palestinian terrorists.
At least 13 armed Palestinians were arrested during the operation, amid heavy
exchanges of gunfire between Palestinian gunmen and Israeli troops.
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United States Senator Jim Inhofe, one of the leading conservative voices in the
Senate, is a strong advocate of common sense Oklahoma values including less
government, less regulation, lower taxes, fiscal responsibility and a strong national
defense
He was first elected to the Senate in 1994 to complete the unexpired term of Senator
David Boren who resigned to become president of the University of Oklahoma. He
was re-elected in 1996.
He is a member of the Armed Services Committee (Subcommittees: Readiness
Management Support- Ranking Member; Strategic Forces; and Airland); the
Environment Public Works Committee(Subcommittees: Transportation
Infrastructure-Ranking Member; Clean Air, Wetlands, Private Property Nuclear
Safety; and Superfund; Waste Control Risk Assessment); the Intelligence
Committee; and the Indian Affairs Committee.
Inhofe plays a leadership role on defense and national security issues. As the former
chairman, and now ranking member, of the Subcommittee on Readiness, he has
fought to improve the condition of the U.S. military, both by providing greater
resources and by fighting for necessary equipment and training. He believes
overseas military missions should serve vital national interests, and he is one of the
Senate's prime advocates for deploying a national missile defense system.
Inhofe is also a leader on important environmental and regulatory issues, fighting to
restore common sense and sound science to the regulatory decisions of the
Environmental Protection Agency on such issues as global warming, clean air
mandates, wetlands, and endangered species. As ranking member of the
Subcommittee on Transportation Infrastructure, he plays an important role in
overseeing the wise expenditure of Highway Trust Fund dollars.
Inhofe previously served four terms in the U.S. House of Representatives,
representing Oklahoma's First Congressional District which encompasses Tulsa
County. In 1993, he came to national attention when he succeeded in reforming the
arcane discharge petition rule which the Congressional leadership had long used to
keep popular bills bottled up in committees. The rule change he made possible
eliminated secrecy in the legislative process. One of the first bills to benefit from
this
reform was the landmark Inhofe-sponsored aviation liability bill which put America
back in the aviation manufacturing business.
Inhofe grew up in Tulsa and graduated from the University of Tulsa with a degree in
economics. He served in the U.S. Army and has been a small businessman (working
in aviation, real estate and insurance) for over 30 years. He was elected to the
Oklahoma State House of Representatives in 1966, served one term, and was then
elected to the State Senate where he served two terms and became Minority Leader.
From 1978 to 1984, he was Mayor of Tulsa. Active in aviation, Inhofe became the
only member of Congress to fly an airplane around the world when he recreated
Wiley Post's legendary trip around the globe. Inhofe has been married to his wife,
Kay, for 42 years and has four grown children and eleven grandchildren.
Inhofe: an act of political courage.
(Boston Herald)
(When) the Inhofe petition succeeds, we're talking about
a revolution in the House of Representatives.
(The Wall Street Journal)
Republicans will have to offer a bigger vision...
Jim Inhofe could be a model for that vision.
(The Washington Times)
U.S. Senator James M. Inhofe (R - Oklahoma)
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AN ABSOLUTE VICTORY
America's Stake in Israel's War on Terrorism Senate Floor Statement by
U.S. Sen. James M. Inhofe (R-Okla)
December 4, 2001
Willie George was right. Lest some of you do not know who Willie George is, some
people consider Willie George a preacher, but he is also a very able historian. As I
listened to him and added some perspectives on what the attack on America was all
about, I realized the inside-Washington mentality is sometimes and often flawed and
that mentality that comes from Oklahoma reflects more of real America.
The Apostle Paul gave us our marching orders in Ephesians 6, verses 10, 11, and
12. He said:
Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the
whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For
we wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against
the
powers, against the rulers of this darkness-- About which we are talking-- against the
spiritual hosts of wickedness in high places.
Make no mistake about it. This war is first and foremost a spiritual war. It is not a
political war. It has never been a political war. It is not about politics. It is a
spiritual
war. It has its roots in spiritual conflict. It is a war to be fought to destroy the
very
fabric of our society and the very things for which we stand.
Many of the wars in
[CTRL] Iraq attack could topple Blair
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Iraq attack could topple Blair
An attack on Iraq would split the Government down the middle and could even
topple Tony Blair's leadership, warns a Labour backbencher.
George Galloway says there is already a lot of unhappiness with the Prime Minister
on a range of policies. He suggests action against Saddam Hussein's regime could
be the last straw for Tony Blair.
The Glasgow Kelvin MP also suggests an attack on Iraq could see the overthrow of
the western states' puppet kings and stooge presidents.
I think it would split the Labour Party down the middle and it could lead to the
defeat
of the Blair leadership in the Labour Party, he said.
If he led us into such a disaster as this behind the generalship of George W Bush, it
could be the last straw for Tony Blair.
Earlier this week, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw tried to reassure MPs concerned
about possible action against the Iraqi dictator, insisting no decision on military
action
was likely to be made for some time.
But he warned Saddam Hussein's regime to allow weapons inspectors back into
Iraq, saying the country was in breach of nine separate United Nations Security
Council Resolutions.
Mr Straw told the Commons: Our message is clear, if (Saddam) has nothing to hide,
he has nothing to fear from weapons inspectors.
He added: As the Prime Minister said, no decisions about military action have been
made, nor, might I add, are likely to be made, if made at all, for some time.
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Al-Sudais said Arabs should bid farewell to peace with the Jews,
whom he described as the scum of the human race, the rats of the
world, the killers of prophets and the grandsons of monkeys and
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Saudi intellectuals say U.S. and Israel are axis of evil
Sun Apr 21,11:36 AM ET
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - A group of Saudi intellectuals and writers has condemned
the United States and Israel and described them as the axis of evil in the world
borrowing a phrase U.S. President George Bush has used for Iran, Iraq and North
Korea (news - web sites).
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The 113 Saudis, some of them prominent writers for respected Saudi papers, said
the American role in the Israeli military operation against the Palestinians was
shameful and said the Israeli massacres do not differ in shape or form from what
the Nazis did.
The writers called in a statement released Saturday on all Arab governments to
severe diplomatic, political and economic ties with Israel and urged Arabs to boycott
all American products.
We consider the United States and the current American administration the nurturer
of international terrorism with distinction and it, along with Israel, form the axis of
terrorism and evil in the world, said the statement.
The statement said Arab governments should take serious and responsible steps ...
and apply all means of pressure on the American administration to make it feel that
its huge interests in the Arab region are threatened.
It said failure to do so will lead to national disasters that will include everyone.
Among the signatories were a writer for the widely respected Al-Hayat and a former
undersecretary of the Saudi Interior Ministry.
The statement comes at a time when anti-American sentiment is at a high level over
what Arabs see as U.S. support for Israel in the conflict with the Palestinians.
On Friday, the chief cleric of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Sheik Abdul Rahman al-
Sudais, called on the Arabs to abandon peace efforts with Israel because they were
impossible.
Al-Sudais said Arabs should bid farewell to peace with the Jews, whom he described
as the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the killers of prophets and the
grandsons of monkeys and pigs.
He called on Muslims to stand with the Palestinians financially and in kind, saying
that peace with Israel was futile because it only accepts liquidating its opponent,
taking over his land, making his people homeless and canceling his dignity. They
want the state of Greater Israel. They want to eliminate the nation of one God and
the Quran.
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[CTRL] Bill Bennett and AVOT
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/fallavollita3.html }}}Begin Bill Bennett and AVOT: Intergenerational Thieves by Paul Fallavollita By now, most of us on the Old Right are painfully aware of the project spearheaded by Bill Bennett, the organization called Americans for Victory over Terrorism (AVOT). According to Jim Lobes AlterNet piece, War on Dissent Widens, one of the goals of AVOT is to propagandize college campuses in order to prevent a public backlash against the War on Terror similar to the one that doomed the Vietnam War. Bennetts choice of the Vietnam War as his point of departure reveals much about his statist commitments, and exposes him as an intellectual accessory to the crime that the War on Terror constitutes against Americas youth. Bill Bennetts statist roots stretch back to the 1960s, when he spent his time rooting for Martin Luther King, Jr. to encourage the government to abrogate the freedom of association. My parents spent those years going to school, working for a living, and then supporting Governor George Wallaces presidential campaigns. They hoped to defend the America they grew up in, and countervail both Bennetts efforts as well as those of the counter-cultural Left. Bennett, as a statist cheerleader of the 1960s Civil Rights Movement, harmed my generation before it was born. As a fervent war propagandist, Bennett again threatens to harm my Twentysomething generation, some forty years later. Bennetts warmongering activities constitute a theft of terrible and enraging magnitude, for it violates the pact between the dead, the living, and the yet unborn that was spoken of by Edmund Burke. It is sad and ironic that someone young like me has to remind Bennett about the implications of true conservatism. The short familial political history I provide above is meant to set the proper context in evaluating Bennetts Vietnam comparisons, which are straw men. Bennett is wrong to portray the anti-war position as Leftist or otherwise unpatriotic. The true opposition to the War on Terror does not come from the minuscule yet loudmouthed counter- cultural Left, which can always be expected to shill for the latest cause-of-the-month at a moments notice. The true opposition arises from those on the unreconstructed Right that Bennett and his neocon allies have forsaken, those who still love the more permanent things, the little platoons that make life worth living. AVOT proselytizes for a War on Terror that runs the risk of becoming perpetual and much more destructive. It is following a course that will needlessly sacrifice Americas flower, Midwestern farm boys, across the world, from far-flung Philippine jungles to the burning sands of the Middle East. My parents saw their friends return home in body bags from Vietnam. I do not want to see my friends (who are part of the little platoons that make life worth living) meet that same fate in the War on Terror, which is merely another war that is neither necessary nor justified. Bennetts Remember 9/11 crowd fails to grasp that 9/11 stems from an immigration problem, not a military problem. The events of 9/11 are ultimately traceable to the resentment caused by Americas interventionist foreign policy abroad. The very fact that 9/11 occurred is a striking testament to the congenital incompetence and malignancy of government. Government is forever cursed with the Midas touch in reverse. As my parents saw from its behavior in Vietnam, government always brings pain and betrayal. It never delivers on its promise of a quality product or outcome. It never restrains itself within limited, rational objectives. The War on Terror is a classic example of these inherent failures of the State. We still have not captured Osama bin Laden or Mohammed Omar, and the war has expanded across the world with no end in sight. The War on Terror reveals a slight difference between liberals and neocons in their orientation toward government: liberals want to spend other peoples money on projects intended to benefit special interests, while neocons prefer to sacrifice other peoples lives in service of their pet crusades. Life and private property are inextricable, so the varying tactics of the liberals and the neocons are equally dangerous and immoral. Another slight difference between the liberals and the neocons lies in their choice of which special interest they favor. Lobes article traces a major source of AVOTs funding to Lawrence Kadish, showing that the special interest that the neocons slavishly promote is the State of Israel. Israel is to the United States what Cuba was to the former Soviet Union: an entity that remains solvent only through massive transfer payments from the host nation. The liberals, in contrast to the neocons, have always tended to be fans of the Soviet Union privately, and of Cuba more openly. This analogy becomes stretched, however, when one considers what the United States gets in return from Israel.
[CTRL] America's Version of the Palestinians ?
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25625-2002Apr21.html }}}Begin washingtonpost.com Lost Trust: Billions Go Uncounted Indians in Century-Old Fight to Tally Money Owed for Land Use By Ellen Nakashima and Neely Tucker Washington Post Staff Writers Monday, April 22, 2002; Page A01 In the whispering grasslands of North Dakota, Tex Hall's family has grazed cattle for four generations. More than a century ago, most of their land was among Indian acreage taken by the U.S. government, held in trust and leased to strangers. When Hall was a boy, his parents, members of the Mandan-Hidatsa-Arikara tribes, would await the arrival of a U.S. Treasury check each December. Sometimes the check was for $5,000. The next year, perhaps $4,000. Another year, another sum. His mother wondered why the amounts varied. The yellow government envelope contained no explanation. His father would call the Bureau of Indian Affairs. We'll get back to you, the local officials said. But they never did. The frustration would mount. I want an accounting! his father would shout, startling his eight children. Now the parents are dead, and, come December, it is Hall and his remaining six brothers and sisters who await the checks. The amounts still vary, and the Halls still have no explanation. They are among hundreds of thousands of Indians in the West whose lands were taken into government trust -- and now lie at the center of one of the most intractable accounting messes in U.S. history. For more than a century, ranchers, miners and loggers have contracted with the government to harvest timber, graze cattle and extract oil, gas and minerals from Indian land; the money paid the government is supposed to be forwarded to each landowner. But from the beginning, the government paid little attention to which landowner was owed what. Over time, as Indians died and land was divided among heirs, the accounting problems grew exponentially. Tribes and individuals have never been sure they were getting their due. To this day, when I get my check there is nothing that shows what tract of land it's for, said Hall, president of the National Congress of American Indians. Isn't that crazy? Congress has tried to fix the system and failed. Accounting firm Arthur Andersen was paid $20 million in the early 1990s to reconcile tribal accountsand failed. The Interior Department, which oversees the BIA, tried to fix the system. It, too, failed and ended up in court with individual account holders. Evidence made it clear that relevant documents were shredded and e-mails deleted. Already, two Clinton Cabinet members have been found in contempt of court, and now Interior Secretary Gale A. Norton and 40 deputies face contempt charges. That case -- one of the largest class action lawsuits in history in terms of plaintiffs -- was filed six years ago to secure a reckoning of 300,000 accounts belonging to individual Native Americans. In separate litigation, tribesare seeking similar treatment for about 1,400 tribal accounts. The government, the Native Americans contend, still cannot provide an accurate balance sheet for a single one. We call this the Indian Enron case, Hall said. Even that may fail to capture the scope of an accounting disaster that has shaped the lives and lands of Indians since the 1820s. Plaintiffs in the class action, led by Elouise Cobell, treasurer of the Blackfeet Indians in Montana, say they are owed at least $10 billion. U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth has already found the government breached its fiduciary duty to the Indians; he is considering how the system might be repaired and will later determine damages. At least 18 tribal suits were filed in January and February, claiming billions of dollars in damages and seeking an accounting of their own. But there is no consensus on how to accomplish either an accounting dating back more than a century or a long- term fix for the future -- or even a settlement. Norton wants to create an agency to overhaul the trust fund -- the Bureau of Indian Trust Asset Management (BITAM). Cobell wants the judge to appoint an independent receiver, which would focus solely on the individual accounts. A task force of 36 tribal leaders is considering calling for legislation that would create a body akin to a Resolution Trust Corp., which restored the savings and loan industry in the 1980s and which would address both tribal and individual accounts. Some lawmakers are proposing their own fix. Senate Majority Leader Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.) and Sens. Tim Johnson (D-S.D.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) introduced legislation Friday to create an Interior Department position of deputy secretary for trust management and reform to handle all trust fund duties, and to make it easier for tribes to directly manage or co-manage their own trust funds, which few tribes do now. The way these trust fund holders have been treated . . . is a national disgrace, said Rep. Tom Udall
Re: [CTRL] Livin' On Tulsa Time / Integration of Church State
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[CTRL] America used Islamists
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.guardian.co.uk/yugo/article/0,2763,688327,00.html }}}Begin America used Islamists to arm the Bosnian Muslims The Srebrenica report reveals the Pentagon's role in a dirty war Richard J Aldrich Monday April 22, 2002 The Guardian The official Dutch inquiry into the 1995 Srebrenica massacre, released last week, contains one of the most sensational reports on western intelligence ever published. Officials have been staggered by its findings and the Dutch government has resigned. One of its many volumes is devoted to clandestine activities during the Bosnian war of the early 1990s. For five years, Professor Cees Wiebes of Amsterdam University has had unrestricted access to Dutch intelligence files and has stalked the corridors of secret service headquarters in western capitals, as well as in Bosnia, asking questions. His findings are set out in Intelligence and the war in Bosnia, 1992-1995. It includes remarkable material on covert operations, signals interception, human agents and double-crossing by dozens of agencies in one of dirtiest wars of the new world disorder. Now we have the full story of the secret alliance between the Pentagon and radical Islamist groups from the Middle East designed to assist the Bosnian Muslims - some of the same groups that the Pentagon is now fighting in the war against terrorism. Pentagon operations in Bosnia have delivered their own blowback. In the 1980s Washington's secret services had assisted Saddam Hussein in his war against Iran. Then, in 1990, the US fought him in the Gulf. In both Afghanistan and the Gulf, the Pentagon had incurred debts to Islamist groups and their Middle Eastern sponsors. By 1993 these groups, many supported by Iran and Saudi Arabia, were anxious to help Bosnian Muslims fighting in the former Yugoslavia and called in their debts with the Americans. Bill Clinton and the Pentagon were keen to be seen as creditworthy and repaid in the form of an Iran-Contra style operation - in flagrant violation of the UN security council arms embargo against all combatants in the former Yugoslavia. The result was a vast secret conduit of weapons smuggling though Croatia. This was arranged by the clandestine agencies of the US, Turkey and Iran, together with a range of radical Islamist groups, including Afghan mojahedin and the pro-Iranian Hizbullah. Wiebes reveals that the British intelligence services obtained documents early on in the Bosnian war proving that Iran was making direct deliveries. Arms purchased by Iran and Turkey with the financial backing of Saudi Arabia made their way by night from the Middle East. Initially aircraft from Iran Air were used, but as the volume increased they were joined by a mysterious fleet of black C-130 Hercules aircraft. The report stresses that the US was very closely involved in the airlift. Mojahedin fighters were also flown in, but they were reserved as shock troops for especially hazardous operations. Light weapons are the familiar currency of secret services seeking to influence such conflicts. The volume of weapons flown into Croatia was enormous, partly because of a steep Croatian transit tax. Croatian forces creamed off between 20% and 50% of the arms. The report stresses that this entire trade was clearly illicit. The Croats themselves also obtained massive quantities of illegal weapons from Germany, Belgium and Argentina - again in contravention of the UN arms embargo. The German secret services were fully aware of the trade. Rather than the CIA, the Pentagon's own secret service was the hidden force behind these operations. The UN protection force, UNPROFOR, was dependent on its troop-contributing nations for intelligence, and above all on the sophisticated monitoring capabilities of the US to police the arms embargo. This gave the Pentagon the ability to manipulate the embargo at will: ensuring that American Awacs aircraft covered crucial areas and were able to turn a blind eye to the frequent nightime comings and goings at Tuzla. Weapons flown in during the spring of 1995 were to turn up only a fortnight later in the besieged and demilitarised enclave at Srebrenica. When these shipments were noticed, Americans pressured UNPROFOR to rewrite reports, and when Norwegian officials protested about the flights, they were reportedly threatened into silence. Both the CIA and British SIS had a more sophisticated perspective on the conflict than the Pentagon, insisting that no side had clean hands and arguing for caution. James Woolsey, director of the CIA until May 1995, had increasingly found himself out of step with the Clinton White House over his reluctance to develop close relations with the Islamists. The sentiments were reciprocated. In the spring of 1995, when the CIA sent its first head of station to Sarajevo to liaise with Bosnia's security authorities, the Bosnians tipped off Iranian intelligence. The CIA learned that the Iranians had targeted him for liquidation and
[CTRL] Greece to crack down on sex traffickers
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Greece to crack down on sex traffickers
Helena Smith in Athens
Monday April 22, 2002
The Guardian
Greece is poised to pass draconian legislation to fight Europe's burgeoning trade in
people-trafficking, after revelations that one in two Greek men has used a sex slave.
Outrage at Greece's reluctance to combat the trade has been compounded by
growing evidence that the country is the transit route most favoured by traffickers
dealing in women and children.
Girls as young as 12, often abducted and then held in debt bondage, are among an
estimated 40,000 trafficked females serving more than a million Greeks - a third of
the sexually active male population - every year.
Greece's geographic position as a frontier state, at the crossroads of east and west,
has made it the centre of trafficking in Europe, criminology professor Grigoris Lazos
said.
Most victims come from the former Soviet Union, the Balkans and, increasingly,
Africa. In Albania, Moldova, southern Bulgaria and Romania, entire towns have been
robbed of their young female populations, sociologists say. While some victims are
kidnapped at gunpoint, others are lured by promises of marriage, jobs and better
living conditions.
At least one in two men, and half of all married men here, go with prostitutes who
are mainly foreign women forced into the sex trade, Thanos Askitis, a socialist MP
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Re: [CTRL] Why not be Anti, Semites?
Hello, Well, this is an interesting question. When you ask which is the most serious I suppose that depends on ones standards. Certainly the myth that Joseph and Mary were fleeing to avoid the killing of male Jewish babies by Herod is a myth. This was built upon the fact that Herod had married a Jew and in fact had her and eventually her offspring killed. This is a midrashing of the tale of Moses being secreted away as an infant to escape Pharaoh's killing of all male Jewish babies, another myth. It presents the same image/lessons with modern characters and places as the Old Testament. What occurred was that the writers of the Gospels used people and places from a period of about 100 years after the supposed times of Jesus and used them to weave tales that had lessons to their given communities spiritual needs. Geography is mistaken, times and dates are wrong in general and of course the whole clothe of the passion was formulated from common themes and myths of that era and joined with the "Christian Beliefs" of the time. At this time these stories were not taken literally. It was over a period of another 100 plus years that the case for an historical Jesus was put together. db In a message dated 4/21/02 11:17:37 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of all the alleged historical errors in the Gospels, which would you say is the most serious? POC
Re: [CTRL] Why not be Anti, Semites?
Hello, No. It cannot be proven by Roman tax records. All documents that have been recovered from that time have no reference to Jesus. If you know of some then you are the only person in this area of study that has seen them. I do not mean to be trite, those are just the facts. The introduction of letters, correspondences and other writings concerning Jesus in an historical setting are all later forgeries put out by church fathers from about 150CE onwards. Preposterous letters from Jesus to Pontius Pilate and from neighboring Communities from and to Jesus. In fact the forgeries became so embarrassing to the church in later years they were removed from circulation. At one time the Catholic church had 32 spears of Longinus. In a message dated 4/22/02 3:21:09 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: well, sorry to cut your post off like this, but i dunno about that. i'm no theist, and i certainly wouldn't call myself a christian, but can it not be proven that jesus was a real person that existed [through roman tax records]? i'm not referring to the census given as an excuse for him being born in bethlehem instead of nazareth; i'm quite certain that this information is out there from some tax record when he was a young adult. the fact that i can't seem to locate a source is not helping me. anybody know what the hell i'm talking about? of course, it could always be argued that they were forged. As to the next part: i look at jesus more as awella daniel boone type character, where stories are created around the person due to awe and admiration. who knows, if we ever go through a nuclear war then maybe when the people emerge they'll stumble upon data [electronic or, maybe, from a half destroyed library] describing george washington as a super human that can throw a rock across potomac bay, and, thus, assume him to be myth. but, we all know him to have existed. Well, they will find documents and writings of his contemporaries that will show that he was known and did walk on earth. This is not the case for Jesus. There are no contemporary writings of or about him until the first Gospel written after 100Ce. i *am* definately suspicious, and i take very little of what is in either testament at face value..but i don't see how you can flat out declare his existence to be a myth. i mean, how many sources are there *really* that prove thati dunnoramses II existed? alexander the great? that the pelopponesian war happened? maybe one or two or three at most. yet we take this as historical fact, even though it's probably quite embellished. the scriptures may not be a good source of real historical happenings, but they're good enough to prove that the guy actually lived as far as i'm concerned inri Well, I suppose that I would ask what is it that allows some one with no sources other than the bible to say he does exist? My friend, extraordinary claims need extraordinary proofs. As to my opinion, I have studied this subject for many years and have an extensive library on this subject. I have utilized web sources of early church documents and historical writtings of contemporary historians Jewish, Roman, Greek and others.I have found no writtings of that era, and this is crucial, to support the gospel version. As to the scriptures being all you need to establish proof that he existed, well that is why Zues and Thor were really here because the Greeks wrote of them. Horus was in fact a true life God because Egyptian writtings are abundant in reference to him. That is not a very good argument in regard to logic. Belief is another thing. However, it is this baseless belief that causes people to blow themselves and others up from the middle east to abortion clinics in the name of events and people that never existed or happened. db
Re: [CTRL] Why not be Anti, Semites?
Hello, Well, I appreciate the compliment. I have spent a lot of time and money in researching this field. I am however a part of no movement expect to try and eliviate ignorance and help people seperate from their superstitions whenever I can. When we talk about this, "here is a big academic religious movement bent on saying that nothing in Jewish or Christian history can be accepted with certainty. " Please remember that the historical study of the bible is only a couple of hundred years old. It was punishable by death, torture, banishment and a host of other nasties to even question Christian (or Judaic) dogma. That is why the meme of Christianity is so heavy with us still. We are fortunate to live in a time when so many archeological data and historical documents have been found and translated. For instance the Nag Hamadi library with early Christian writings that share a lot of common threads, but no historical Jesus. When we talk of a trend, I see it more as the natural evolutionary response from free thinking individuals to investigate and refute these age old myths. To be able to use logic and reason in attempting to piece together this Judeo/Christian history. I refer again to the amount of significant data recovered over the past 100 years that leads to a more realistic accounting of these times rather than simply accepting the, "you must believe because it is written" rhetoric. Remember, that brain washing begins in the crib. Of course there are religious conversions, but most people are a product of their spiritual upbringing. What I mean is that if you are from the Punjab, you are probably going to be Hindu. If you are from Tel Aviv, Jewish and from Birmingham, Alabama a Baptist or some such denomination. Of course these are generalities, but the gist is that parents start that process of belief in their offspring. I think that you presume to much in thinking that free thinking people are only exercising their options in regard to historical study in order to establish a new world order of secular zombie's or whatever. n a message dated 4/22/02 3:55:31 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hammurabi did a nice academic presentation of what some academics know about that part of history. Those who read here should know that there is a big academic religious movement bent on saying that nothing in Jewish or Christian history can be accepted with certainty. No Jesus, no apostles, no Abraham, no King David, no Exodus, no Moses, etc. There is no indication that Hammurabi is part of that movement, but he may be influenced by it. Why the trend? Well, if we are to move into one world religion, people must be convinced that humans all have some sort of good sweet center, kind of like a Fannie Mae chocolate, that has come out in every religious group to form the core of their beliefs. If we could just discard all of the outside shells, all of the sweet centers will come together to form a single candy that everyone can nibble from. As to: That the core of Christianity should be belief in a person makes it difficult. I don't believe in Christianity, but I also don't think the movement would have come together without a focal point. This is a weak argument. I like the quote from one of the Coral Ridge Ministry bigwigs that said the grand canyon was not made by a Hopi Indian dragging a stick and something as large as Christianity was not built on a myth. Well, he was wrong. There have been many cults that were powerful and far reaching that were based on religious texts and nothing more. Take Greek mythology for instance. Take Paganism. Take basicaly any religion and you must use the same criteria on them. People believe. People have holy text's. Therefore there must be historical God Men/Women at the core of their beliefs. In studying the history of Christianity, one must study it. Simple statement made here about Christianity must have had a focal point and that focal point was a living, breathing, tried, convicted, crucified and reborn Jesus is not an educated statement. The history of Christianity is a metamorphasising one sprung from Jewish cults and was a product of the times and events that transpired in Judah during the period of bout 200BCE (maybe further) to the canonization of text's by Constantine in the 4th century. From the advent of Greek influence with the invasion of Alexander in 330CE (or there abouts) to the Orient to the partial destruction of Judah in 70Ce and then total destruction in 135Ce by the Romans and onwards to the gathering of miscellaneous letters from religious communities (pauls epistles) and the writing of the Gospels from 100CE onward. There was a period in time that Paganism almost won out and we would be worshipping Mithra right now. These texts were not heavenly ordained, they were the product of men and women responding to their beliefs and the political and theological events of their time. And to this: We should look carefully at the promotion
Re: [CTRL] Why not be Anti, Semites?
-Caveat Lector- I dispute the word christian in this so-called history, and request that the word catholic be used instead. --- Don S. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Well, I appreciate the compliment. I have spent a lot of time and money in researching this field. I am however a part of no movement expect to try and eliviate ignorance and help people seperate from their superstitions whenever I can. When we talk about this, here is a big academic religious movement bent on saying that nothing in Jewish or Christian history can be accepted with certainty. Please remember that the historical study of the bible is only a couple of hundred years old. It was punishable by death, torture, banishment and a host of other nasties to even question Christian (or Judaic) dogma. That is why the meme of Christianity is so heavy with us still. We are fortunate to live in a time when so many archeological data and historical documents have been found and translated. For instance the Nag Hamadi library with early Christian writings that share a lot of common threads, but no historical Jesus. When we talk of a trend, I see it more as the natural evolutionary response from free thinking individuals to investigate and refute these age old myths. To be able to use logic and reason in attempting to piece together this Judeo/Christian history. I refer again to the amount of significant data recovered over the past 100 years that leads to a more realistic accounting of these times rather than simply accepting the, you must believe because it is written rhetoric. Remember, that brain washing begins in the crib. Of course there are religious conversions, but most people are a product of their spiritual upbringing. What I mean is that if you are from the Punjab, you are probably going to be Hindu. If you are from Tel Aviv, Jewish and from Birmingham, Alabama a Baptist or some such denomination. Of course these are generalities, but the gist is that parents start that process of belief in their offspring. I think that you presume to much in thinking that free thinking people are only exercising their options in regard to historical study in order to establish a new world order of secular zombie's or whatever. n a message dated 4/22/02 3:55:31 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hammurabi did a nice academic presentation of what some academics know about that part of history. Those who read here should know that there is a big academic religious movement bent on saying that nothing in Jewish or Christian history can be accepted with certainty. No Jesus, no apostles, no Abraham, no King David, no Exodus, no Moses, etc. There is no indication that Hammurabi is part of that movement, but he may be influenced by it. Why the trend? Well, if we are to move into one world religion, people must be convinced that humans all have some sort of good sweet center, kind of like a Fannie Mae chocolate, that has come out in every religious group to form the core of their beliefs. If we could just discard all of the outside shells, all of the sweet centers will come together to form a single candy that everyone can nibble from. As to: That the core of Christianity should be belief in a person makes it difficult. I don't believe in Christianity, but I also don't think the movement would have come together without a focal point. This is a weak argument. I like the quote from one of the Coral Ridge Ministry bigwigs that said the grand canyon was not made by a Hopi Indian dragging a stick and something as large as Christianity was not built on a myth. Well, he was wrong. There have been many cults that were powerful and far reaching that were based on religious texts and nothing more. Take Greek mythology for instance. Take Paganism. Take basicaly any religion and you must use the same criteria on them. People believe. People have holy text's. Therefore there must be historical God Men/Women at the core of their beliefs. In studying the history of Christianity, one must study it. Simple statement made here about Christianity must have had a focal point and that focal point was a living, breathing, tried, convicted, crucified and reborn Jesus is not an educated statement. The history of Christianity is a metamorphasising one sprung from Jewish cults and was a product of the times and events that transpired in Judah during the period of bout 200BCE (maybe further) to the canonization of text's by Constantine in the 4th century. From the advent of Greek influence with the invasion of Alexander in 330CE (or there abouts) to the Orient to the partial destruction of Judah in 70Ce and then total destruction in 135Ce by the Romans and onwards to the gathering of miscellaneous letters from religious communities (pauls epistles) and the writing of the Gospels from
Re: [CTRL] Why not be Anti, Semites?
Hi, Well, I am not talking about Catholic history. I am talking about Christian history and like it or not after about 350CE Christian history became Catholic but before that it was Christian history. There were Christians over a hundred years before the supposed birth of Jesus. There were no Catholics. If you are of a Christian faith then your root is Catholicism. That is the well spring of Protestant, Lutheran and other sects. db In a message dated 4/22/02 11:49:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I dispute the word "christian" in this so-called history, and request that the word "catholic" be used instead. --- "Don S. Brown" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Well, I appreciate the compliment. I have spent a lot of time and money in researching this field. I am however a part of no movement expect to try and eliviate ignorance and help people seperate from their superstitions whenever I can. When we talk about this, "here is a big academic religious movement bent on saying that nothing in Jewish or Christian history can be accepted with certainty. " Please remember that the historical study of the bible is only a couple of hundred years old. It was punishable by death, torture, banishment and a host of other nasties to even question Christian (or Judaic) dogma. That is why the meme of Christianity is so heavy with us still. We are fortunate to live in a time when so many archeological data and historical documents have been found and translated. For instance the Nag Hamadi library with early Christian writings that share a lot of common threads, but no historical Jesus.
[CTRL] Jenin: The Big Lie
-Caveat Lector- Jenin: The Big Lie Fighting the media war. By Ariel Cohen As the Israelis were busy hosing pools of blood off the streets after the latest murder-suicide bombing at Jerusalem's Machane Yehuda market, the Palestinian propaganda machine was busy churning out yet another Big Lie: the massacre of Jenin. alestinian mouthpieces claim that the Israeli military killed as many as 500 civilians in Jenin, a stronghold of Hamas and Islamic Jihad. When the Israelis cleared the booby traps and allowed Western media into the city on Monday, the reality turned to be completely different: difficult door-to-door infantry fight; 23 Israeli soldiers fallen in battle; dozens of terrorists killed. No massacre. When Israeli troops surrounded Jenin, it was widely reported by the Western and Arab media that the local terrorist commanders swore to fight them to the death. Arafat, holed up in Ramallah but still pushing for more violence, had called for a million martyrs to march to Jerusalem - and Jenin looked like a good place to start. There were important assets to be protected in the refugee camp. Several dozen chemical labs where explosives for suicide-bomber belts and Kassam rockets were being manufactured, and arsenals of machine guns and anti-tank weapons, and a cadre of would-be suicide bombers. Trapped. The fierce fighting went on for days in the small, winding alleys of the town and in the Jenin refugee camp that Arafat did not even think to eliminate despite years of his rule. Many houses were booby trapped by the terrorists who hoped to blow Israelis to smithereens. The IDF repeatedly ceased fire and demanded that all civilians leave the area, but the top Palestinian terrorists, true to form, were using them as human shields. If this action had taken place in Afghanistan, U.S. troops would have called in the vitamin B: B-1, B-2 and B-52 bombers. If it had happened in Chechnya, the Russian generals would have called in artillery and flattened Jenin, just as they did Grozny. Israeli tanks were there, and they could have shot straight into town and the refugee camp. Instead, Israelis fought on foot, placing themselves at risk while trying to protect Palestinian lives. One of the fighters, reportedly a young boy, detonated a booby trap in a building already taken by the Israeli reservists, and 13 were killed on the spot. After the city fell, 1,000 Palestinian fighters surrendered. In any other place, in any other war, there would be no one left to surrender. The air force, rockets, and artillery would have done the job. The Israeli Army is putting the number of Palestinians killed in a five-day battle at about 200, while 30 Israeli soldiers were killed. While crying foul in English, the Palestinian and Arab media are praising the martyrs in Arabic, and the Saudi TV has raised millions in a Jerry Lewis style telethon to pay off the families. The Jenin massacre that never was is yet another Big Lie in the Palestinian PR campaign, a campaign that for its persistence and audacity would have made Joseph Goebbels, Adolph Hitler's propaganda chief, proud. And with good reason. Goebbels's legacy lives today - from Damascus to Ramallah to Cairo. According to a prominent Egyptian writer, the Egyptian press ministry was set up in the early 1950s by the East Germans who learned the trade under Stalin, but before that, under Hitler and Goebbels. And Communist archives in Moscow demonstrate that many Palestinian leaders were trained at the Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow and KGB camps in the Crimea, both temples of Soviet propaganda and subversion. One of Goebbels's contributions to the world of black PR was the concept of the Big Lie - repeating something so loudly and persistently that people begin to believe it. Yasser Arafat is fond of blaming Israelis for using uranium shells against Palestinians, implying radioactive damage. The Egyptian propaganda machine made up the immoral Israeli chewing gum, purported to drive up the libidos of Egyptian women. President Bashar Assad of Syria accused Israel at the recent Arab League Summit of killing thousands of Palestinians a day. His long-time defense minister, Mustafa Tlas is getting into show business: He wrote a book called The Matsa of Zion, and is now producing a movie in Egypt that accuses Jews of using the blood of a Christian priest for baking Passover matzah breads. The Saudi government-owned newspaper recently also ran a story alleging that Jews use baby blood for another traditional food, the triangular cookies known as Hamentashen, baked for the holiday of Purim. It is no surprise, therefore, that Hitler's Mein Kampf is selling briskly on the Palestinian street. Other people at other times have used the Big Lie to dehumanize their targets. The Soviet KGB planted rumors that the CIA manufactured AIDS. Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam has said repeatedly that Jewish doctors infected black babies with AIDS. And the grand wizard himself,
Re: [CTRL] The Imperial Bush We Feared
"Every nation that joins our cause is welcomed. Every nation that needs our help will have it. And no nation continues (pause) -- around the world the nations must choose: They are with us or they’re with the terrorists."Significantly, there was no applause from the audience.How did we get from: "You are either with us or against us", elevated to support for terrorism? Are you saying that no one can or should question U.S. government definitions and identification of a terrorist ? Hey guys - our ex-colonial brothers [some would say not even ex !!] - THAT's A SCARY THING FOR DUBYA TO SAY. he didn't get the popular vote and he's activelyfomenting a global cataclysm. Does anyone ever step over the line in America ?? andrew
[CTRL] Prophetic Surveillance
By all means, let's ignore the in your face conspiracies on behalf of pursuing those which require wild speculation with no evidence :-): ~ Source: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/story.jsp?story=287307 Robot cameras 'will predict crimes before they happen' CCTV: By learning behaviour patterns, computers could soon alert police when an unmanned camera sees 'suspicious' activity By Andrew Johnson 21 April 2002 Computers and CCTV cameras could be used to predict and prevent crime before it happens. Scientists at Kingston University in London have developed software able to anticipate if someone is about to mug an old lady or plant a bomb at an airport. It works by examining images coming in from close circuit television cameras (CCTV) and comparing them to behaviour patterns that have already programmed into its memory. The software, called Cromatica, can then mathematically work out what is likely to happen next. And if it is likely to be a crime it can send a warning signal to a security guard or police officer. The system was developed by Dr Sergio Velastin, of Kingston University's Digital Imaging Research Centre, to improve public transport. By predicting crowd flow, congestion patterns and potential suicides on the London Underground, the aim was to increase the efficiency and safety of transport systems. The software has already been tested at London's Liverpool Street Station. Dr Velastin explained that not feeling safe was a major reason why some people did not use public transport. In some ways, women and the elderly are effectively excluded from the public transport system, he said. CCTV cameras help improve security, he said, but they are monitored by humans who can lose concentration or miss things. It is especially difficult for the person watching CCTV to remain vigilant if nothing happens for a long period of time, he said. Our technology excels at carrying out the boring, repetitive tasks and highlighting potential situations that could otherwise go unnoticed, he added. While recent studies have shown that cameras tend to move crime on elsewhere rather than prevent it completely, in certain environments, such as train stations, they are still useful. And Dr Velastin believes his creation has a much wider social use than just improving transport. His team of European researchers are improving the software so that eventually it will be capable of spotting unattended luggage in an airport. And it will be able to tell who left it there and where that person has gone. However, the computer is not yet set to replace the human being altogether. The idea is that the computer detects a potential event and shows it to the operator, who then decides what to do so we are still a long way off from machines replacing humans, Dr Velastin says Edward + If you have fifty problems and one of them is government, you have only one problem. http://www.global-connector.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reality_pump/
[CTRL] A School System Without Memory
-Caveat Lector- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18272-2002Apr19.html Copyright 2002 The Washington Post Company The Washington Post Saturday, April 20, 2002; Page A14 A School System Without Memory Palestinian Records, Computer Gear Seized in Israeli Raids By Doug Struck Washington Post Foreign Service RAMALLAH, West Bank, April 19 -- After the Israeli raids, computers lie scattered about the Palestinian Education Ministry, each machine neatly disemboweled of its hard drive. What do the Israeli authorities want, Palestinian school officials wondered, with the test scores of students? Or the minutiae of school construction contracts? Or the time sheets of clerks, teachers and secretaries? Israeli officials said they could not confirm what data were seized by troops who entered Palestinian Authority ministries in Ramallah. But in general, we are looking for documents that show a connection between the Palestinian Authority and terrorists, said Lt. Col. Adir Haruvi, a spokesman for the Israeli army. Israeli technicians spent nine hours removing the data storage units from more than 40 computers in the Education Ministry, according to two ministry workers forced at gunpoint to open the offices. The Israelis blew open two safes and cleaned them of official school seals, cash and other documents. They rifled through files, selectively removing some and leaving others. They took the high school graduation scores of more than 1 million students stretching back to 1960, the ministry officials said. The only conclusion I can make is they don't want to see any Palestinian institution able to work again, said Naim Abu Hommos, acting education minister, as he surveyed the damage during a brief break in the curfew that has locked down this town on the northern outskirts of Jerusalem. Asked why troops would seize education records of students, Haruvi replied, What we cannot understand is why they are educating 6-, 7-, 8-year-old students to say that 'I want to be a martyr.' You go in these schools and you see pictures of martyrs and students saying they want to grow up to be a martyr and explode [themselves] in the middle of Jerusalem. That turns the truth totally on its head, said Hommos. The pictures you see in the classrooms are of children killed by the Israelis. There have been 172 students killed since the current Palestinian uprising began in September 2000, he said. As the Israeli military begins to withdraw from some of the West Bank towns it has reoccupied, local officials are looking for ways to restore some semblance of normal life. Some of those towns, such as Jenin, still are reeling from extensive physical destruction. Here in Ramallah, the administrators in charge of nearly 2,000 Palestinian schools must deal with what they said was a longer-reaching attack -- the removal of key data. Salah Soubana, one of three ministry officials sleeping at his office because he could not return home during curfew, said 150 soldiers backed by several dozen tanks raided the offices April 3, five days after the start of Israel's West Bank attacks, and returned last Sunday. Soubana said he was used as a human shield, shoved first into each office by soldiers who apparently feared being shot at or blown up, even though he told them the building was empty. The soldiers then opened each computer to remove its drives and data needed to keep the school system running, according to Soubana and others. Schools for 650,000 students in the West Bank have been closed for the three weeks since the Israeli attacks began. When classes resume, officials must quickly try to retrieve thousands of scores on paper documents in storage and re-create student files, Hommos said. Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has said his intention is to destroy what he describes as the Palestinians' terrorist infrastructure. Army officials said they have found proof in captured documents linking the Palestinian leader, Yasser Arafat, and his Palestinian Authority to payments supporting attacks on Israeli targets. But Palestinian officials said they believe the Sharon government wants the school information to re-exert control over Palestinian daily life. Until 1994, when Arafat returned after signing the Oslo peace accords, the Israeli Civil Administration ran Palestinian schools and almost all other government functions. Sharon's strategy is to dictate everything, said Abdul Jawad Salah, a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council who, like others in Ramallah, went to the town market for fresh vegetables when the curfew was lifted for the first time in three days. Now, they don't want any municipality to work. Look at all the garbage. They don't allow us to collect it. Amid the piles of trash and stores darkened by power cuts, vendors worked at a furious pace to load shoppers' plastic bags with cucumbers and peppers before the curfew resumed. A block away, Israeli soldiers waited in a makeshift camp of armored
[CTRL] Palestinians Say Israeli Aim Was to Destroy Framework
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: International Justice Watch Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Thomas Keenan Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Palestinians Say Israeli Aim Was to Destroy Framework Serge Schmemann had an important story Tuesday in the Times which seems to have passed largely unremarked. Among the other casualties of the Israeli assault on the West Bank was most of the *information* produced over the years since Oslo by the Palestinian Authority. A senior Palestinian official called it an administrative massacre. Everyone recalls the outrageous stripping of Kosovar identity documents by the MUP and VJ in 1999; it seems that the IDF has chosen to work the other side of the data street, skipping the individuals and going directly to the source. [A]n abridged tour showed signs of a systematic effort by the Israeli Army to strip institutions of the Palestinian Authority of as much data as possible, with some apparent pillaging on the side. Officials at afflicted ministries and institutions said money was missing, as well as laptop computers, RAM modules, pocket organizers, video players and other items. What they are doing, and what is not being noticed enough, is that they are destroying all the records, all the archives, all the files, of the Palestinian Authority, said Yasir Abed Rabbo, the Palestinian minister of information. This is an administrative massacre, and this will lead to chaos. An Israeli military officer said the reason for seizing documents from the ministries was the same as for seizing them from Yasir Arafat's compound in Ramallah, namely, to see what's going on there. That's the idea, the officer said. A lot of these places turn up unexpected things, by accident. Documents have a very important value. But the officer said it was not Israel's intention to have the Palestinian Authority collapse. Officials of the various international organizations that have been trying to build Palestinian institutions for self-rule said the damage to Palestinian records and data was a very high price to pay for the possibility of finding some incriminating information. They said the Israelis seemed not to have made a distinction between the political leadership and the civil service. Thomas Keenan Human Rights Project Bard College = http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/16/international/middleeast/16RAMA.html Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company The New York Times Tuesday, April 16, 2002 Palestinians Say Israeli Aim Was to Destroy Framework By SERGE SCHMEMANN RAMALLAH, West Bank, April 15 -- In one room of the Palestinian Ministry of Education, the litter of papers, glass, paper clips and periodicals was ankle-deep. The filing cabinets had been ransacked, and some toppled. Personal computers sat on the desks, their hard drives ripped out. In another room, the Israeli soldiers had blasted open the safe. The explosion brought down the suspended ceiling there and in adjoining rooms, leaving a mess. Dr. Naim Abu Hommos, the deputy minister of education, said the safe had been used to keep all school test records since 1960. All were gone, he said, along with 40,000 shekels -- about $8,500 -- that had been kept there for petty cash. That was the Ministry of Education. The neighboring Palestinian Legislative Council meeting hall was torn apart, and officials said the video archives of its sessions were gone. At the Ministry of Agriculture, the door had been blasted open by an explosion that also took out all the windows, and a neighbor said Israeli soldiers had filled two armored personnel carriers with boxes, presumably of records. It was the same at the Ministry of Industry. At the Ministry of Health, visitors were blocked today by Israeli soldiers packing duffel bags and boxes of food into two armored personnel carriers. They had apparently stayed in the building, perhaps using it as a position for observation and sniping. An officer said the visitors could come back in an hour, but today's five-hour lifting of the curfew had almost run out. Similar reports came from all across Ramallah -- offices in ruins, files and hard drives gone. The Ministry of Civil Affairs, the Central Bureau of Statistics, the Ministry of Finance, the Land Registry, the municipal administration buildings of Ramallah and neighboring Al-Bireh, including its library, had all been raided. Many private institutions had been similarly invaded. The windows of the elegant Khalil Sakakini Cultural Center were smashed, the records of the Palestinian Insurance Company were gone, and there were many more examples. With only a few hours to circulate in the streets while the Israeli Army lifted the
[CTRL] U.S. Invents New Crimes for Tribunals
-Caveat Lector- Will the members of Israel's army and Ariel Sharon be tried on the same legal basis? -Original Message- From: International Justice Watch Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Thomas Keenan Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 8:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: U.S. Weighing New Doctrine for Tribunals Many have wondered over the last few months what exactly the U.S. was going to do with those guys in Camp X-Ray, and what the celebrated military tribunals would actually be trying. Were the prisoners simply POWs (whatever the U.S. claimed as to their 'combattant' status), subject to indefinite storage in the face of a war without end, or had they actually committed war crimes, and if so, what might the evidence and charges be? Neil Lewis writes on the front page of Sunday's New York Times that the U.S. is having a very difficult time getting the captives to talk, let alone finding out whether they've done anything particularly bad, and so Washington is producing a new legal doctrine that effectively criminalizes membership in Al Qaeda. He writes that the new guidance would probably require a finding that a prisoner was not only a member of Al Qaeda but also that he furthered its aims. But that's all. Having dramatically relaxed the evidentiary standards for criminal cases in the tribunals, it now appears that the Pentagon would (more or less) like to do away with the need for evidence of specific war crimes altogether: The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the questioning was going slowly and the prisoners were largely uncooperative. No one, the official said, has confessed to any atrocity or violation of the laws of war. Nor, the official added, have the interrogators had much success in getting prisoners to provide information that could be used against other captives. Another official said the new approach would allow military prosecutors to charge some captives even without evidence from witnesses or documents that they committed war crimes. It could be enough to show that they were part of a group and furthered its aims, this official said. They would be shown, the official said, to be a part of a group that did things like killing civilians and noncombatants, attacked targets with no military value or took or killed hostages - the traditional roster of war crimes. Also engaging in torture, the official said. Thomas Keenan Human Rights Project Bard College === http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/21/national/21TRIB.html Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company The New York Times Sunday, April 21, 2002; page one U.S. Weighing New Doctrine for Tribunals By NEIL A. LEWIS WASHINGTON, April 20 - Uncertain about how they will be able to prosecute many of the nearly 300 prisoners detained at a naval base in Cuba, Bush administration officials are considering a new legal doctrine that would allow prisoners to be brought before military tribunals without specific evidence that they engaged in war crimes. The new approach would make it an offense to have been a senior member or officer of a Qaeda unit that was involved in any of the regular crimes of war, like mistreatment of civilians. One administration official said the effort came out of increasing uneasiness that the interrogations of the prisoners, who were taken from Afghanistan to the naval base at Guántanamo Bay, had not yielded enough information to charge very many with traditional war crimes. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the questioning was going slowly and the prisoners were largely uncooperative. No one, the official said, has confessed to any atrocity or violation of the laws of war. Nor, the official added, have the interrogators had much success in getting prisoners to provide information that could be used against other captives. Another official said the new approach would allow military prosecutors to charge some captives even without evidence from witnesses or documents that they committed war crimes. It could be enough to show that they were part of a group and furthered its aims, this official said. They would be shown, the official said, to be a part of a group that did things like killing civilians and noncombatants, attacked targets with no military value or took or killed hostages - the traditional roster of war crimes. Also engaging in torture, the official said. Officials said the legal mechanism for charging someone with being a member of a Qaeda unit involved in crimes was not complete but would probably be detailed in a document to guide military prosecutors. Administration lawyers have already begun work on the issue, officials said, and expect that their efforts will produce the document, which would be formally issued by the Defense Department. Prof. Detlev Vagts of
[CTRL] U.S.-Saudi oil imports fund American mosques
Monday, April 22, 2002 BLACK-GOLD BLUES U.S.-Saudi oil imports fund American mosques Hijackers' homeland has pumped millions into some of largest Islamic centers here Posted: April 22, 2002 1:00 a.m. Eastern By Paul Sperry © 2002 WorldNetDaily.com Every time you fill up your tank, you may be helping to finance an Islamic mosque in America. If that sounds far-fetched, consider this: Some of the largest mosques and Islamic centers in America are funded by the royal government of Saudi Arabia, which gets most of its revenues from oil exports. And America is its biggest customer. "You certainly can say that U.S. oil purchases end up funding U.S. mosques," said Daniel Pipes, a former State and Defense department official who now heads the Middle East Forum in Philadelphia. So what? More and more, Saudi is embracing a radical and acutely violent strain of Islam called "Wahabbism," one that is spreading rapidly from its borders. Most of the Saudi people adhere to this increasingly anti-American sect. Saudi was home to 15 of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers, as well as their leader, Osama bin Laden. And it has been a reluctant ally in America's war on terror. Of the more than 1,200 mosques in America, more than 80 percent have been built within the last 20 years thanks in large part to Saudi money, according to Reza F. Safa, author of "Inside Islam." "Saudi Arabia alone has spent $87 billion since 1973 to spread Islam throughout the United States and the Western hemisphere," Safa said. For example, King Fahd of Saudi pledged as much as $8 million to build a new mosque at the site of the Masjid Bilal Islamic Center, the large black mosque in South Central Los Angeles. Last year, Saudi's Islamic Development Bank committed an additional $295,000 for the construction of the Bilal Islamic Primary and Secondary School. Bilal is just one of many black mosques funded by Saudi. Most of them, including Bilal, are associated with Imam W. Deen Mohammed, head of the Chicago-based Muslim American Society, or MAS, which has been credited with helping convert more than a million U.S. blacks to Islam. A spokesman for the group said "hundreds of American mosques are associated with" MAS, explaining that each major city has "one main mosque and two or three smaller centers in the suburbs." The Chicago area, for example, has a MAS mosque and three related centers, he says. Black converts make up the fastest-growing segment of the Muslim population in America. An estimated 60 to 90 percent of all U.S. converts to Islam are black, Safa says. "Eighty percent of these converts were raised in the church," he added. Christianity Today predicts that if the conversion rates continue, Islam could become the dominant religion in black urban areas by 2020. Nation of Islam Mohammed originally took over the Nation of Islam after the death of his father, Elijah Muhammad, who founded the group. A rift with Louis Farrakhan, then a rising Nation of Islam star, led him to found MAS, which is considered less radical than Farrakhan's Nation of Islam today. But Pipes notes that Mohammed has recently been steering MAS toward fundamentalism to cater to the growing number of immigrants attending his mosques. His for-profit Collective Purchasing Conference, also based in Chicago, sells members orthodox Muslim clothing and "halal" meats butchered according to the Koran, the sacred book of Muslims. Mohammed's father, Elijah, "hated" the U.S. and celebrated when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, Pipes said. He was arrested and served three years in jail for draft evasion. Though he expressed "shock" at the Sept. 11 terrorism, W. Deen Mohammed didn't categorically condemn the attacks in a statement to MAS members. That Saudi Arabia is stoking the black Muslim movement in America does not comfort Islam-watchers, given growing resentment of Saudis toward the U.S. which, as it happens, dovetails with black attitudes, recent polls show. Sixty-four percent of Saudis have an "unfavorable" view of the U.S., according to a Gallup poll taken December and January, after the terrorist attacks. That compares with 57 percent of black Muslims who think America is an "immoral society," according to a Zogby International poll taken November and December. Black attitudes Like the Saudis, the vast majority of black Muslims oppose U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. Fully 70 percent, in fact, blame the Sept. 11 attacks on that policy, the Zogby poll says. Echoing Saudis, most black Muslims say America should stop aiding Israel and support a Palestinian state. Tellingly, the Saudi government prevented Gallup from asking the following questions of its citizens: Is U.S. military action in Afghanistan morally justifiable? Do you believe news reports that Arabs carried out the Sept. 11 attacks? Do you like or dislike President Bush? Analysts speculate Saudi officials
[CTRL] SODOM GOMORRAH (must view website)
http://www.skinnedcat.net/mailer/wnd.swf While we were sleeping, the enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat. Matthew 13:25 Archibald BardICQ 83834746 TO KEEP THE PEACE,KEEP YOUR PIECE! wnd.url Description: Binary data
[CTRL] Enormous Taxpayers' Aid to Israeli Jews - US Congress
-Caveat Lector- Indeed, it pays well to have mind control over the US congress. - Over $1-2 per day to each Israeli Jew. A fraction of that very same money buys the control of the whole US Congress, in the form of campaign donations and other niceties ( namely press support cheap adds). Maybe Palestinians should learn to do the same? You need to learn to give some back, to get some. - From US Congress anyway. :-) Also other poor nations should perhaps take a note and learn how a few million rich Israelis can manage to leech the US taxpayers for insane amounts of money, when you look at the figures of what anyone else is getting and bring it into perspective. Creating a feedback loop for the money seems to be the key for winning support from US Congress. US should use aid to Israel as leverage for peace: Carter WASHINGTON, April 21 AFP http://www.theage.com.au/breaking/2002/04/22/FFXYQX68B0D.html US should use aid to Israel as leverage for peace: Carter WASHINGTON, April 21 AFP|Published: Monday April 22, 4:35 AM Former US president Jimmy Carter today suggested Washington use its considerable military and economic aid to Israel as leverage to persuade the Jewish state to accept a just peace settlement with the Palestinians. In an editorial carried in the New York Times, the former president said: Normal diplomatic efforts have failed. It is time for the United States, as the sole recognised intermediary, to consider more forceful action for peace. The rest of the world will welcome this leadership. Asked to comment on Carter's suggestion of an aid cutoff, US secretary of state Colin Powell told NBC Sunday: We are not considering any cutoffs at this time, and it would be hypothetical to talk about what we might do in the future. Israel receives roughly $US3 billion ($A5.58 billion) in aid, both military and economic, a year from the United States. Carter cited two factors that could persuade Israel to accept a settlement based on implementations of UN resolutions and on the recent Saudi proposal calling for Arab normalisation with Israel in return for Israeli withdrawal from territory captured in the 1967 Middle East war. One is the legal requirement that American weapons are to be used by Israel only for defensive purposes, a premise certainly being violated in the recent destruction in Jenin and other towns of the West Bank, he added. Carter pointed out that this requirement was imposed by the Richard Nixon administration to stop Israel's military advance into Egypt during the 1973 Middle East war and noted that he also used it to deter Israeli attacks on Lebanon in 1979. The Israeli Defence Force is heavily supplied with US weapons, so any operation they conduct, there are always US weapons involved, Powell told ABC. There are laws, and we're always examining those to make sure that use is consistent. Carter meanwhile also pointed to the approximately $US10 million ($A18.58 million) daily in American aid to Israel and noted that former president George H Bush had threatened to cut off this assistance in 1992 to prevent the building of Israeli settlements between Jerusalem and Bethlehem. I understand the extreme political sensitivity in America of using persuasion on the Israelis, but it is important to remember that none of the actions toward peace would involve an encroachment on the sovereign territory of Israel, he added. The former US president had some harsh words for Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. His rejection of all peace agreements that included Israeli withdrawal from Arab lands, his invasion of Lebanon, his provocative visit to the Temple Mount, the destruction of villages and homes, the arrests of thousands of Palestinians and his open defiance of President George W Bush's demand that he comply with international law have all been orchestrated to accomplish his ultimate goals: to establish Israeli settlements as widely as possible throughout occupied territories and to deny Palestinians a cohesive political existence, Carter said. He was also critical of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, citing his failure to exert control over Hamas and other radical Palestinians who reject the concept of a peaceful coexistence and adopt any means to accomplish their goal. And he slammed the abhorrent suicide bombings targeting Israeli civilians as counterproductive in that they discredit the Palestinian cause, help perpetuate the military occupation and destruction of villages, and obstruct efforts toward peace and justice. The Age America Can Persuade Israel to Make a Just Peace By JIMMY CARTER The New York Times, April 21, 2002 http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/21/opinion/21CART.html?pagewanted=print April 21, 2002 America Can Persuade Israel to Make a Just Peace By JIMMY CARTER ATLANTA - In January 1996, with full support from Israel and
[CTRL] But the practice of homosexuality is truly sinful.
Edward Cardinal Egan's stand-in at St. Patrick's Cathedral pointedly blamed the priest sex abuse scandal yesterday on homosexuality, a "sex-saturated" society and a constant assault on celibacy by liberals. http://www.nydailynews.com/today/News_and_Views/City_Beat/a-148459.asp While we were sleeping, the enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat. Matthew 13:25 Archibald BardICQ 83834746 TO KEEP THE PEACE,KEEP YOUR PIECE! New York Daily News Online News and Views City Beat St. Pat Msgr. Hits Gays on Scandal.url Description: Binary data
[CTRL] Valerie Wolf, dead at age 52
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nola.com/obits/index.ssf?/obituariesstory/obitsfeb06(39).html WOLF, VALERIE B. 02/06/02 Valerie B. Wolf, a graphic arts student and former social worker, died Monday of cancer at Memorial Medical Center. She was 54. Mrs. Wolf was born in Vancouver, B.C., Canada, and lived in New Orleans since 1975. She received a master's degree in social work from Syracuse University and a master's in physical education from Ithica College. She was enrolled at Tulane University. She was a member of Touro Synagogue, a past president of the New Orleans Chapter of the National Council of Jewish Woman and a member of Sweet Adelines. Survivors include her husband, Thomas M. Wolf; a son, Mark H. Wolf; a brother, Guy Winchester of Toronto, Canada; and two sisters, Holly Winchester of Halifax, Nova Scotia, and Deirdre Evans of Vancouver. A funeral will be held today at noon at Touro Synagogue, 4238 St. Charles Ave. Visitation will begin at 10:30 a.m. Burial will be in Hebrew Rest Cemetery. Tharp-Sontheimer-Tharp Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements. http://heart7.net/mcf/vwolfmctestimony.htm (Valerie Wolf's testimony before the President's Committee on Radiation, advocating for survivors of mind control experimentation and operations.) --- God Bless You, Valerie. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] NIGER - Is this hate language or another association?
-Caveat Lector- NIGER - Is this hate language or another association? (c)2002 Africa has many tribes and many different governments and because of the wars between those tribes selling a families children into slavery or prostitution has become the main commerce item of some African countries. Nigeria and Nigerians have been highlighted because the country seemingly has been emulating Nazi Germany - which means that the term Niger was for those that believed the end justifies the means or that they could steal what they wanted. Negro is a Spanish word that means black and considering that the underlying skin tones seem to be pink, yellow, brown or red; Negro describes the majority of people from Africa. The red man or American Indian is another example of a skin tone, and European Mediterranean area shading to the yellow. I am guessing that yellow man may not have become an established term because any skin color may have an yellowish cast from jaundice. To accuse a black of trying to be white is America seems to have come to mean that they are trying to be American and reap some of the advantages that being American brings. Black culture for some means the same as Nazi Germany which is in direct conflict with our constitution. I am writing this because I have met more white and yellow NIGERs than I have black ones. So, if I were to hear a Ku Klux Klan member say Niger I would reply You mean a white Nazi like you or someone from one of the African countries that does not have a Constitutional Government, yet? Laura Lee Lanning~Shipton (c)2002 http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/index.html -- LL Lanning~Shipton 1) Food reactions, lactose intolerance, gas, digestive problems? http://www.pbf-enzymes.org/piper/ http://enzymes.8k.com/index.html 2) Ellagic Insurance Formula with OPC and Graviola http://www.ellagicinsuranceformula.com/piper/ 3) Magic Links - promote your web site with the ability to earn extra income. http://magical-matrix.com/piper/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HELP-1/ makes NO medical claims nor are we saying that any products discussed will treat, diagnose, cure or prevent any problems you have. This information is intended as an educational guide only, and should not be used as a substitute for informed professional diagnosis, advice, therapy, or care of a qualified medical or educational professional. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Prophetic Surveillance
By all means, let's ignore the "in your face" conspiracies on behalf of pursuing those which require wild speculation with no evidence :-):~ c'mon edward whats evidence of rational conspiracy - that pseudo science article - certainly a software like that could never cut the mustard. it is a conspiracy that its inaccuracies will be misused - but I am starting to laugh at the people who conviently or naively associate reptiles with icke. my own group came to similar conclusions in 1996 with reference to the overabundant sumerian archaeological evidence - such as the solar system etched out amongst the hieroglyphs in a way/formation that nasa has only recently discovered and the planets named by colour - colours that nasa are only recently able to confirm, and by whom ?? the reptilian 'gods' for which there are heaps of staues and statuettes. I find that the reptilian issue is in our faces - if not usually up our other bodily orifices. and if you canot see anything reptilian about historical and archaeological evidence, you must either be stupid, or incapable of doing adequate research, or as steve suggests, alas, a pro-reptoid spook andrew hennessey www.trans4rm.co.uk
[CTRL] New Email Address! Please note change!
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Re: [CTRL] Prophetic Surveillance
everyone's a pro-reptoid spook when they disagree with you, aren't they? - Original Message - From: andrew hennessey To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] "Prophetic" Surveillance alas, a pro-reptoid spook andrew hennessey www.trans4rm.co.uk
Re: [CTRL] Prophetic Surveillance
C: everyone's a pro-reptoid spook when they disagree with you, aren't they? - Original Message - From: andrew hennessey To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:21 PM But alas, I AM a pro-reptoid spook (whatever that means) according to Andrew. You see, Andrew and ilk require no evidence beyond the paranoid whirring inside their own heads or the heads of their heroes (e.g., Cynthia McKinney or David Icke). So, in keeping with Andrew's rules, if I suggest that he has a special sexual fondness for tiny farm animals, it is true beyond question. There you have it. Andrew and company conspire to distract us from the fact that they screw chickens in their spare time. There's no doubt about it. ROFL! Subject: Re: [CTRL] Prophetic Surveillance alas, a pro-reptoid spook andrew hennessey www.trans4rm.co.uk Edward + If you have fifty problems and one of them is government, you have only one problem. http://www.global-connector.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reality_pump/
[CTRL] Evidence 101 for Andrew
Andrew: By all means, let's ignore the in your face conspiracies on behalf of pursuing those which require wild speculation with no evidence :-): ~ c'mon edward whats evidence of rational conspiracy Evidence: the material or, in certain instances, anecdotal indication of the existence of postulate fact in which either cannot be disputed by reasonable objective analysis or is otherwise acquired by objective (casual) observation. - that pseudo science article - certainly a software like that could never cut the mustard. it is a conspiracy that its inaccuracies will be misused - but I am starting to laugh at the people who conviently or naively associate reptiles with icke. And I am starting to get tired of those who associate whack jobs like Icke with any form of rational thought or inquiry. :-) my own group came to similar conclusions in 1996 with reference to the overabundant sumerian archaeological evidence - such as the solar system etched out amongst the hieroglyphs in a way/formation that nasa has only recently discovered and the planets named by colour - colours that nasa are only recently able to confirm, and by whom ?? the reptilian 'gods' for which there are heaps of staues and statuettes. Oh, so you have artifacts to present as evidence for the existence of an elite line of reptoids? By all means, dude, deliver it up for the world to see! But, if you don't mind, please spare us a hokey video of some alien autopsy :-) I find that the reptilian issue is in our faces - if not usually up our other bodily orifices. Is this like the running of the gerbils? Never mind. I don't want to know. What you do with lizards in your spare time is none of my business! :-) and if you canot see anything reptilian about historical and archaeological evidence, you must either be stupid, or incapable of doing adequate research, or as steve suggests, alas, a pro-reptoid spook Yep, that's me; lizard through and through. ROFLMAO! Edward + If you have fifty problems and one of them is government, you have only one problem. http://www.global-connector.com/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/reality_pump/
Re: [CTRL] Evidence 101 for Andrew
EDWARDEvidence: the material or, in certain instances, anecdotal indication of the existence of postulate fact in which either cannot be disputed by reasonable objective analysis or is otherwise acquired by objective (casual) observation.well that certainly fits the known sumerian archaeology, indian, chinese, south american and european ethnological evidence of beliefs and artefacts and other collected anecdotes from the 17 -19 century that substantiate reptoid civilisation. you plead ignorance of the supporting facts for the reptoid thesis edward. yetthere is a global museum full of reptoid references; material, anecdotal, objective and non-human. How do you rationally explain this empirical data ? lets get philosophy of science then How do you manage to refute the conjecture that the mountain of reptilian artefacts and ethnological evidence points to the existence of a reptilian species on this planet ??? What reason do you have to dismiss the more than obvious data ??? I really want to understand. There's me and my chickens and gerbils - and you with the ostriches and dinosaurs lets have one of your allegedly reasonable objective analysis of the known reptilian thesis - and frequent references to david icke wont be your get out here - lets deal with just the known facts - I want to see your rational mind at work here. What irrationally propels you to discount the known obvious empirical data and artefacts for reptilian civilisation - and don't be afraid to gimme philosophy of science, and all them rational stuff coz me and ma gerbils iz intae epistemology. andrew hennessey www.trans4rm.co.uk [ps. educated in scotland]
Re: [CTRL] Why not be Anti, Semites?
-Caveat Lector- Hammurabi, you are so sure of yourself. Every statement is a major pronouncement of The Truth. You have come as a messiah to save us from our lives based on ignorance of The Truth or at least that is how your writing appears to me. All of the scholars of the past in the area of religion were just ignorant, superstitious peasants compared to you and your peers. How interesting. You said you would answer questions, so let me ask youof all of the areas of knowledge in this wide world, past and present, that need debunking, what made you feel the world needed your efforts in the area of the history of religion? To those who might question the need for the exchange, exploring conspiracy is not just exploring the communicated word, but understanding why something has been communicated. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NIGER - Is this hate language or another association?
-Caveat Lector- laural wrote: -Caveat Lector- NIGER - Is this hate language or another association? (c)2002 Africa has many tribes and many different governments and because of the wars between those tribes selling a families children into slavery or prostitution has become the main commerce item of some African countries. Nigeria and Nigerians have been highlighted because the country seemingly has been emulating Nazi Germany - which means that the term Niger was for those that believed the end justifies the means or that they could steal what they wanted. Negro is a Spanish word that means black and considering that the underlying skin tones seem to be pink, yellow, brown or red; Negro describes the majority of people from Africa. The red man or American Indian is another example of a skin tone, and European Mediterranean area shading to the yellow. I am guessing that yellow man may not have become an established term because any skin color may have an yellowish cast from jaundice. To accuse a black of trying to be white is America seems to have come to mean that they are trying to be American and reap some of the advantages that being American brings. Black culture for some means the same as Nazi Germany which is in direct conflict with our constitution. I am writing this because I have met more white and yellow NIGERs than I have black ones. So, if I were to hear a Ku Klux Klan member say Niger I would reply You mean a white Nazi like you or someone from one of the African countries that does not have a Constitutional Government, yet? Laura Lee Lanning~Shipton (c)2002 http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/index.html Is this writer's native language English? Her syntax is that of a foreigner attempting expository writing. -- ´´ Mark McHugh A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Palestinians Say Israeli Aim Was to Destroy Framework
-Caveat Lector- Jei wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/16/international/middleeast/16RAMA.html Copyright 2002 The New York Times Company The New York Times Tuesday, April 16, 2002 Palestinians Say Israeli Aim Was to Destroy Framework By SERGE SCHMEMANN RAMALLAH, West Bank, April 15 -- In one room of the Palestinian Ministry of Education, the litter of papers, glass, paper clips and periodicals was ankle-deep. The filing cabinets had been ransacked, and some toppled. Personal computers sat on the desks, their hard drives ripped out. In another room, the Israeli soldiers had blasted open the safe. The explosion brought down the suspended ceiling there and in adjoining rooms, leaving a mess. Dr. Naim Abu Hommos, the deputy minister of education, said the safe had been used to keep all school test records since 1960. All were gone, he said, along with 40,000 shekels -- about $8,500 -- that had been kept there for petty cash. [snip] I saw a report on CNN this afternoon that echoed this article. Safes blown open, classroom computers and equipment crushed, evidence of an unsuccessful attempt at cracking an ATM and main vault at a private bank. Looking for terrorists...ja, right. I suppose the heroic IDF has looting yahoos and a slack discipline like many other invading armies. -- ´´ Mark McHugh A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Plot to get Bush now on drawing board
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, saba wrote: ... the name of the pilot is being withheld and I am wondering why. Was it even an American pilot?Sounded more like the attack on the USS Liberty. The polls tell us 84% of Canadians are not willing to buy the friendly fire explanation so glibly given. THEY WANT THE PILOT PUT ON TRIAL. There is something rotten in this alright. Let's find out what. If there is nothing to hide the pilot will be exonerated. Contact Defence Minister Eggleton at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. POC John Knight A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Vicious Federal Injustice System
-Caveat Lector- http://www.lewrockwell.com/anderson/anderson49.html The Vicious Federal Injustice System by William L. Anderson For the last several months, the LRC page has dealt with the U.S. war in Afghanistan, mistakenly called the War on Terror. (If President George W. Bush believes that he can use the U.S. Armed Forces to eliminate terror from the earth, perhaps he can use these guys to get rid of the scary monsters that seem to lurk in my two-year-old daughter's room at night.) One reason for the war, as we have been told ad nauseum, has been to punish those entities that helped plan and carry out the September 11 attacks. In theory, this is all well and good, provided the evil doers are punished and those who are innocents and noncombatants are spared, something that has not been the case in this era of collateral damage. However, this war has also been trumpeted as a mechanism to transfer our superior system of justice abroad, and for that Bush has sought the support both of liberals and conservatives. From what I see, however, I am not sure that people in Afghanistan or anywhere else will be better off by our exporting of the U.S. system of justice. For the past century, and especially in the last three decades, the U.S. Government has slowly been imposing a vicious, arbitrary, and unconstitutional regime of injustice, one that in some ways is as bad as anything that has been imposed by the worst totalitarian governments that we have come to vilify. Thanks to our various wars on crime, the U.S. Department of Justice has become the staging area for crimes against Americans who are not criminals themselves. While some of my article will be anecdotal, let me point out a chilling statistic that by itself tells the story of injustice in the USA. This nation, which has about five percent of the world's population, imprisons more people than any other country. At present, there are about eight million people in prison worldwide; two million of those are imprisoned in this country. To put it in plain arithmetic, the USA's prison hold one-fourth of the world's prisoners, while we have about one-twentieth of the world's population. Either Americans are more criminally oriented than anyone else on the face of the earth, or there is a real problem with our legal system. I'd like to think it is the latter. Libertarians are quite familiar with my last set of statistics, and many have pointed out that more than half of those imprisoned in the USA are incarcerated for crimes associated with the use, sale, and production of illegal drugs. People from Lew Rockwell to Gary Becker have correctly noted that this regime of prohibition criminalizes acts that by any stretch of the imagination are not criminal. Furthermore, even the violent crime associated with illegal drugs occurs mostly because prohibition destroys the property rights that permit the sale of other goods to be conducted in a peaceful manner. (As a libertarian friend of mine once said, one does not see drivers of beer trucks shooting at each other. However, one of the most infamous crimes in U.S. history, the St. Valentine's Day Massacre, involved the simple distribution and sale of alcoholic beverages during the infamous era of Prohibition during the 1920s and early 1930s.) Yet, the drug war is not the only federal government initiative that wrongfully fills our prisons. The most devastating weapon in the federal prosecutor's arsenal is the 1970 Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), and it has managed to send thousands of people to prison, even though few of those people actually were criminals by any stretch of the imagination. Passed in 1970 as the centerpiece of President Richard M. Nixon's War on Crime, RICO was an attempt to do an end run around constitutional protections of criminal defendants. Up to then, a number of alleged mafiosos were being acquitted in state courts - and especially those in New York City and Philadelphia - of serious charges such as murder and kidnapping. Frustrated with what they perceived to be a lack of justice, Nixon and numerous members of Congress sought a way to try these characters in federal courts and have what essentially would be a lower burden of proof to boot. Instead of having to prove to juries that Jimmy da Weasel had ordered the murder of Tommy da Capo, federal prosecutors simply had to allege a pattern of racketeering, that is to show that a number of illegal activities in which the defendant was directing constituted a conspiracy to violate the laws of the United States. The legalities are a bit complicated, but the end result was this: no longer did prosecutors have to prove murder or robbery or such cases. Rather, the prosecutor simply had to prove that that Jimmy seemed to be doing some illegal things, which in itself became a federal crime. While the burden of proof still remained guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, what was needed to be proven was much
[CTRL] Rioghjt On, Off, Away, Now, Field, ...
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ight-wing tide surges straight to the heart of Europe
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Brussels
(Filed: 22/04/2002)
EUROPE'S rising Right-wing tide swept into the core countries of the European
Union yesterday, rocking Germany's Social Democrats and threatening France's
socialist government.
Over the last two years, Austria, Italy, Denmark, Portugal, and Norway have all
turned against the centre-Left consensus that had such a lock on Europe during the
1990s, opting instead for law- and-order parties promising tax cuts, deregulation, and
a much tougher line on immigrants.
But the pace is now quickening as ever more radical figures build mass support,
often outflanking the conventional centre-Right with wild rhetoric.
Even Holland, the model of easy-going tolerance, has fallen under the spell of Pim
Fortuyn, an anti- Islamic populist who came from nowhere last month to take control
of Rotterdam.
Just across the border, the Flemish Vlaams Blok far- Right movement is now the
biggest party in Antwerp, much to the horror of Belgium's press and the political
establishment.
In both Rotterdam and Antwerp, Muslim populations dominate very large quarters,
living in uneasy truce with a white working class that has never accepted the
legitimacy of mass immigration from the Third World.
Now France's industrial cities, led by Marseilles, are following suit, and the
political
earthquake can no longer be ignored.
The second-place finish of Jean-Marie Le Pen is all the more stunning given that the
Right-wing vote was split so many ways - shared with the Hunting and Fishing Party;
a rival National Front candidate; another candidate promising zero-tolerance on
crime; and Jean-Pierre Chevenement extolling sovereignty.
Taken together they amount to a devastating defeat for all the forces of the French
Left, challenging the long-held assumption that the French nation is fundamentally
committed to a bedrock welfare state in a social Europe with high taxes.
The shift to the Right is subtly different across the mosaic of Europe's tribal
nations.
In Germany, the Christian Democrats increased their vote from 22 to 37 per cent in
the depressed rust- belt land of Saxony-Anhalt, carving into the core support of the
Left by turning the election into a verdict on Chancellor Schröder's failure to make a
dent on Germany's four million unemployed.
The pro-business Free Democrats went up from four to 13 per cent.
While in Denmark last November, the free-market Ventre Party swept the country
after 80 years in the wilderness, promising to preserve Denmark's public services,
but also tapping into fears that mass immigration threatened the nation's cradle-to-
grave welfare model, and the tight-knit feeling of Danish society.
In Brussels last night, European Union officials were remaining studiously silent
about the surging fortunes of M Le Pen's French National Front.
Nobody wants to repeat the disastrous mistake made two years ago when the EU
reacted precipitously to the triumph of Jorg Haider's far-Right Freedom Party in
Austria by issuing a formal warning that Vienna would face punitive measures if
Haider's party was allowed to join the ruling coalition.
The move was widely viewed as an attempt to overturn the result of a free
democratic election in a member state before there had been any violation of
civilized conduct or human rights.
In the end the EU was forced to climb down ignominiously.
At the time, the Left controlled most EU capitals. Now Silvio Berlusconi is in power in
Rome, backed by a coalition including the post-fascist Alleanza Nazionale, which
boasts Allesandra Mussollini as one of its leaders, as well as the anti-immigrant
Northern League of Umberto Bossi, who recently excoriated the EU as a relic of
Stalinism.
In Madrid, Spain's centre-Right prime minister, Jose Maria Aznar, holds the chair as
the EU's rotating president, and no EU initiative can get off the ground without his
blessing.
9 March 2002: 'Holland's Haider' wins elections in Rotterdam
22 November 2001: Denmark's Right ends 80 years in wilderness
15 May 2001: Berlusconi voted in to run Italy 'like a company'
13 September 2000: Victory for Austria as EU lifts sanctions
5 February 2000: Vienna is cold-shouldered by its European partners
5 February 2000: Jeers as far Right takes share of power in Austria
Related reports
Le Pen's poll triumph rocks France
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[CTRL] TB in Cattle
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And the beat goes on. I just don't get it. Animal husbandry has been an integral
part of human culture for aeons and for all the quarantines and restrictions that the
English have had on foreign animals for years and years, they keep getting worse
outbreaks of disease than nations who actually have rabies and such. Karma?
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Cattle TB could hit foot and mouth level
James Meikle
Saturday April 20, 2002
The Guardian
Farmers yesterday expressed fears that TB in cattle could become worse than the
foot and mouth epidemic. Evidence suggests that the disease, which should not
pose a major risk to people, is still spreading quickly in parts of Britain.
Ten beef cattle were culled at a farm in Denbighshire, north Wales, this week, the
first time TB has reached that part of the country. In the first three months of this
year, nearly 800 cattle on 130 farms in Wales tested positive and were slaughtered.
During the whole of 2000, 150 farms in Wales were affected by new TB cases.
Testing was suspended during most of the foot and mouth crisis, but has been
reintroduced.
The disease has been spreading for years, and the government has sparked anger
among wildlife campaigners by culling badgers to establish whether the popular
animals can be blamed for the sharp rise in cases in recent years.
Alan Morris, of the Farmers Union of Wales, said the organisation was deeply
worried that TB in cattle could get out of control and become worse than the foot
and mouth crisis.
Tony Edwards, chief veterinary officer for Wales, was worried by the spread to a new
area. We need to establish how it got there. We have tried to get the message to
farmers buying livestock to ensure the animals are not infected.
The latest figures for Britain as a whole, covering January and February, suggest 184
herds were confirmed as having new TB cases, 147 in England, 34 in Wales and
three in Scotland. This was fewer than the 311 in the first two months of last year,
and 478 cases for all of 2001. Unlike foot and mouth cases, only affected animals
are slaughtered, although others are put under restrictions and tested again two
months later.
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[CTRL] Jimmeh on the Mid East
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Carter Urges Economic Pressure on Israel
VOA News
21 Apr 2002 18:18 UTC
Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter says the United States should leverage
economic and military aid to Israel to persuade the Jewish state to withdraw from
Palestinian lands in exchange for Middle East peace.
Writing Sunday in The New York Times, Mr. Carter - who brokered the landmark
1979 peace deal between Israel and Egypt - said Washington provides nearly $10
million daily in aid to Israel. In calling for economic pressure on the Jewish state,
he
said normal diplomatic efforts to end Middle East violence have failed.
He called Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon a strong and forceful man. He said he
believes Mr. Sharon's ultimate goals are to establish Israeli settlements as widely as
possible throughout the occupied territories and to deny Palestinians what he called
a cohesive political existence.
He said there is adequate blame on the Palestinian side as well. He said Palestinian
leader Yasser Arafat has never exerted control over the radical Hamas movement or
other Palestinian groups who reject the concept of a peaceful Israeli existence. He
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Re: [CTRL] NIGER - Is this hate language or another association?
-Caveat Lector- This reminds of the guy that was either fired or asked to resign because he used the word niggard (meaning stingy). The interesting thingabout this is people are shooting first and aksing questions later based on appearance or sounds without having the depth of knowledge or experience to justify theiur reactions. Note that the country name of Niger is usually pronouced Nigh-jeer. And I don't know who named it that. Could it have been the indigenous population? AER On 22 Apr 2002 at 13:18, laural wrote: NIGER - Is this hate language or another association? Main Entry: Ni.ger Pronunciation: 'nI-jr, nE-'zher Usage: geographical name 1 river 2600 miles (4184 kilometers) W Africa flowing from Fouta Djallon NE, SE, S into Gulf of Guinea 2 country W Africa; a republic, until 1958 a territory of French West Africa capital Niamey area 459,073 square miles (1,188,999 square kilometers), population 8,516,000 - Ni.ger.ois /nE-zhr-'w@, -zher-/ noun Main Entry: Ni.ger-Con.go Pronunciation: nI-jr-'kä[ng]-()gO Function: noun Etymology: Niger (river) + Congo (river) Date: circa 1950 : a language family that includes the Mande and Kwa branches and that is spoken by most of the indigenous peoples of west, central, and south Africa A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] September 11: The circumstantial case Part 2 of a four-part series
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Molson041902/molson041902.html Part 2 of a four-part series September 11: The circumstantial case By Bill Molson Online Journal Contributing Writer The Pipeline April 19, 2002—In 1997, two things of note happened in Texas. Representatives of the Taliban, which had recently consolidated its power over most of Afghanistan, came to Houston. They were wined and dined by Unocal, one of the largest energy firms in the United States. Also, the governor of Texas, George W. Bush, was pushing legislation which would allow him to store all of his gubernatorial papers at his father's presidential library, away from the archivists in Austin, and be protected by the Federal Freedom of Information Act rather than Texas state law. Unocal was hoping to construct an ambitious pipeline project which would transport Central Asian oil to the Arabian Sea. Central Asia has what is estimated to be 30 percent of the world's proven oil reserves, second only to the Persian Gulf. Dick Cheney, who at the time was president of Halliburton, was quoted in 1998 as saying, "I cannot think of a time when we have had a region emerge as suddenly to become as strategically important as the Caspian." In 1998 after the U.S. Embassy bombings, talks with the Taliban were broken off. Then came the attack on the USS Cole. President Clinton ordered a cruise missile attack on al-Qaeda camps in Afghanistan. Despite a connection with al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden's shadowy terrorist organization, the FBI's chief anti-terrorism investigator was prevented from properly investigating the attack on the Cole. John O'Neill complained publicly that American and Saudi oil interests prevented him from tracking down or properly investigating Osama bin Laden and his network. He later resigned in protest. Relations with the Taliban got considerably warmer after George W. Bush came to office. With a cabinet of former oil executives and consultants, and bankrolled largely by energy companies, such as Enron, Bush wanted to try to get negotiations back on track. Much of what happened in those negotiations has been revealed by a book published in France, entitled "Bin Laden: La Verite Interdite" (Bin Laden: The Forbidden Truth). Its authors are former French intelligence agent Jean-Charles Brisard and investigative journalist Guillame Dasquie. They claim that the United States was negotiating with the Taliban up until August, just before the attacks. According to the authors, in August, only one month before the attacks, one of the negotiators warned the Taliban with the words, "either accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we'll bury you in a carpet of bombs." If their allegations are true, the words would prove an eerily accurate prediction of the future. In May 2001, as reported in the Los Angeles Times, the Bush administration gave the Taliban government $43 million dollars, ostensibly to offset farmers' losses for destroying their opium crops in the War on Drugs. This was at a time when only three governments in the world recognized the Taliban. Pre-planning? According to several British newspapers, the U.S. was planning military action against Afghanistan well before September 11. In an interview with the BBC, Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani diplomat and foreign secretary, said that he was told by senior American officials in mid-July that the U.S. was already planning an attack against Afghanistan. He received this information at a UN sponsored conference on Afghanistan in Berlin. This would seem to corroborate the "carpet of gold, carpet of bombs" speech claimed by the French authors. According to the BBC, Mr. Naik claimed that the U.S. objective was to capture bin Laden and install a moderate, Western-friendly government in Afghanistan. He added that the attack would take place from bases in Tajikistan, where military advisors were already in place, and that it would occur by mid-October at the latest. The presence of the military in Central Asia is confirmed by the British newspaper The Guardian. According to it, a U.S. department of defense official, Dr. Jeffrey Starr, visited Tajikistan in January, and U.S. Rangers were training special troops in Kyrgyzstan. The head of the current Afghan war, General Tommy Franks, visited Dushanbe on May 16, 2001, calling Tajikistan "a strategically significant country." This does not, by itself, indicate any guilt. It is entirely possible that the United States had tired of bin Laden's games, and decided to eliminate the danger once and for all. It is possible bin Laden got wind of this and decided to launch a preemptive strike. It would be an amazing coincidence, however, if the U.S. had planned to attack Afghanistan last October no matter what, and then terrorists loyal to bin Laden committed the worst terrorist atrocity in world history upon New York City only one month prior to the scheduled assault. A pre-emptive strike? Perhaps. But the pilots had been
[CTRL] ''Building an enemy''
http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=222mode=threadorder=0 ''Building an enemy'' Posted on Sunday, April 21, 2002 @ 11:26:32 EDT By Jak King YellowTimes.org Guest Columnist (Canada) (YellowTimes.org) – The corporations which are America require huge amounts of public money – taxpayers' money in the form of subsidies, tax breaks and purchase orders – simply in order to survive. Defense budgets, typically, provide massive amountes of such "free" money for corporations, expending trillions of public dollars on research and development to the ultimate benefit of private corporations. But a military funded in this way is hard to sustain in the face of the inevitable resistance to the constant drain on taxpayers’ resources in the absence of a clear and present danger. Therefore an enemy is always required. For over half a century, from the 1940s on, Soviet Communism was the perfect adversary; strong, vigorous, heavily armed, with an intellectually sustainable version of capitalism based on state enterprise rather than private enterprise. Both versions of capitalism needed the other to feed the military tax drain. Finally, the state enterprise model collapsed, throwing the now-former Soviet Empire into a phase of primitive capitalism that has taken them out of the game. For a moment there was a kind of peace. Then the Kuwaitis acted and Saddam Hussein took the bait; the good old days of million-man armies were back. But for only a season; Saddam was simply not strong enough to engage the superpower for long. Through most of the 1990s, the U.S. military-industrial complex found itself missionless, the victim of falling budgets and insistent demands for the fabled peace dividend, with a civilian leadership focused on a domestic agenda. Today, that vital need for the military-industrial complex to maintain taxpayer’s agreement to their depredations, meets the energy sector’s problem of trying to keep up with America’s insatiable demand for ever more of the earth’s limited resources. The resources they need are in the Middle East and Central Asia, and a ready-made enemy in the form of so-called Muslim extremists stands in the way of their seizure and control. As occasional American facilities and interests began to be attacked by “terrorists” around the world, as Palestinian resistance to the occupying American client state expressed itself in direct action “terrorism,” and as “terrorist” links could be found or manufactured to older foes such as Saddam and Qaddafi, the think tanks in and out of the bureaucracy began to weave the threads of the next enemy myth out of both truth and fantasy. Osama bin Laden’s mad attacks solidified the myth into reality. But the marketing of the myth need more work. Bush’s State of the Union speech tried to rally the country against an ill-defined “terrorism” that – in the Cole’s Notes version of the mass media – has become Iran, Iraq and North Korea. Now, most third-graders know that, if push comes to shove, the United States could destroy all three with its current manpower and weaponry without getting its heart rate up. This kind of threat doesn’t generate the enthusiasm that the crusade against Communism could inspire, and pretty soon there will be grumbling over the costs. Many Americans have already come to understand that most of the money spent in tax breaks is going to relatively few absurdly rich individuals and corporations, while the public has to make do with second class services in order to pay for them. Pretty soon they’ll begin to wonder why $400 billion a year – more than $1,400 from every man, woman and child in the United States – is being spent to defend against a motley crew of dirty riflemen currently being chased from cave to cave. What’s needed for the right wing is a new battle cry, carefully manipulated with Madison Avenue precision, to become the excuse to spend trillions of dollars on dangerous toys for the boys. The next stage, the demonization of Islam itself, is already well under way. Maggie Thatcher, the old girl of the old conservatism has been dragged out onto the stage for the last time to state the case directly, declaring Islam to be the new Bolshevism: "Islamic extremism today, like bolshevism in the past, is an armed doctrine," she declared. "It is an aggressive ideology promoted by fanatical, well-armed devotees. And, like communism, it requires an all-embracing long-term strategy to defeat it." Rudely reminiscent of previous campaigns launched in America to create the enemy – against Italian “anarchists” in the 20s, the “inhuman” Japanese of World War Two, the Red Menace and Yellow Peril from the 40s through the 1980s – the anti-Islamic “crusade” builds on the deep historical strains of anti-Other in American society. The Know-Nothings, the KKK, the America Firsters, McCarthyism, Organization Man, the homogeneity of American culture, moves to seal the borders, and growing protectionist sentiment all feed from a
[CTRL] Cross Crusaders
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.washtimes.com/world/20020422-41009042.htm This has to be taken in the context of their elections. It may be useful to some to try to pin it on the Arabs or other Moslems but one has to look at the leadership's composition. Recall that the little Austrian had his brownshirts do the dirty work before he got rid of them, too. AER }}}Begin The Washington Times www.washtimes.com Synagogues burn as Europeans rage Al Webb THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published 4/22/2002 LONDON A wave of anti-Jewish attacks ranging from hate mail and graffiti to stonings, shotgun blasts, gasoline bombs and synagogue bombings has swept Europe from Britain to Ukraine as the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians worsens in the Middle East. A streak of anti-Semitism, never far beneath the surface of the Continent since World War II, re-erupted with the latest Palestinian intifada, or uprising, in September 2000 and has taken a particularly ugly turn with Israel's campaign against Palestinian territories that started March 29. In recent days, one synagogue in Marseille, France, has been doused in gasoline and burned to the ground; another in Lyon, France, was damaged in a car attack; a third, in Brussels, was firebombed; and a fourth, in Kiev, was attacked by 50 youths chanting, Kill the Jews, who then beat up a rabbi. An unidentified assailant hurled a stone through the window of another synagogue in southern Ukraine yesterday. In Britain, which takes pride in a multicultural society, police have logged at least 15 anti-Jewish episodes this month, including eight physical assaults, synagogues daubed with racist slogans and hate mail sent to prominent figures among the nation's 300,000 Jews. The attacks prompted Jonathan Sacks, Britain's chief rabbi, to say that anti- Semitism is on the rise in Europe as a whole. He blamed Islamic extremists for whipping up sentiment against Jews in Britain and throughout the Continent. But it is in France, where some 700,000 Jews and 4 million Muslims uneasily coexist, that the problem is particularly acute. The French Interior Ministry has recorded nearly 360 crimes against Jews and Jewish institutions in April alone, coinciding with the escalating violence between Israelis and Palestinians. The destruction of the synagogue at Marseille was the sixth attack on a Jewish religious site in France in less than a week. In Lyon, 15 masked assailants smashed two cars into a synagogue and set it on fire. Other arsonists tried to set fire to a synagogue in Strasbourg, but the damage was minimal. There were also attacks on Jewish citizens. A man opened fire on a kosher butcher's shop in a village near Toulouse. A Jewish school at Sarcelles, near Paris, was ransacked. Youths stoned one Jewish school bus and set fire to two others in Paris, and a gang waded into a team of Jewish soccer players, beating them with iron bars. In Belgium, authorities blamed the increased tensions in the Middle East for the attack on the synagogue in the Anderlecht district of Brussels. There is really a climate of hostility, which is a result of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict being transposed into the most troubled district of our capital, said the local mayor, Jacques Simonet. With one eye on the growing anti-Jewish violence and another on the 113th anniversary of Adolf Hitler's birthday April 20, the Simon Wiesenthal Center, which keeps track of neo- Nazi activities around the world, issued a travel advisory urging Jews to exercise extreme caution in traveling to France and Belgium. In a telling reminder of the Holocaust, a synagogue in the German town of Herford was daubed with the words Six million were not enough a reference to the 6 million Jews who died at the hands of Nazis during World War II. The war did not eliminate anti-Jewish sentiment. Less than a year ago, a survey showed that 24 percent of all Austrians would prefer to live in a country without Jews. And even in supposedly neutral Switzerland, a survey reported by the BBC indicates that 16 percent of Swiss people are fundamentally anti-Semitic, while 60 percent have anti-Semitic views. In Lithuania, Jewish leaders on Friday reported a rise in anti-Semitism that they believe is related to the prospects that property seized from Jews before World War II will be returned to its original owners. Prime Minister Algirdas Brazauskas asked the international Jewish community on Tuesday to select representatives to open talks with the government on the issue of property restitution, Agence France-Presse reported. The extremist Freedom Union party then accused the government of groveling to Jews, while another group ripped up an Israeli flag at a protest the following day. Meanwhile in France, 70 persons have been questioned and 16 jailed in the latest attacks on Jews and Jewish interests violence that French authorities say has increased
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U.S., Clinton accused of war atrocities
Jeffrey T. Kuhner
THE WASHINGTON TIMES Published 4/22/2002
The lawyer for a Croatian general indicted by the war crimes tribunal in The
Hague says his client's case opens the possibility that former President Clinton will
be charged with crimes against humanity for authorizing a Croatian military offensive
in 1995 that recaptured territory from rebel Serbs.
According to the unjust indictment brought against my client, there is a basis
for
an investigation and indictment of high-ranking Clinton administration officials who
oversaw Operation Storm, said Luka Misetic, the defense attorney for Gen. Ante
Gotovina.
The high-ranking Croatian general was indicted in June 2001 by the prosecutor's
office at the U.N. War Crimes Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia in The Hague on
charges that he exercised command responsibility over the military campaign in
which 150 Serbian civilians were killed.
Secretly supported by the Clinton administration, Croatian forces launched a
three-day massive military offensive known as Operation Storm on Aug. 5,
1995 in which Croatia recovered territories occupied by rebel Serbs following
Croatia's bloody drive for independence from Yugoslavia in 1991.
Gen. Gotovina was the military commander of Sector South of the operation,
which was responsible for the capture of the rebel-held city of Knin. He is also
accused of overseeing the ethnic cleansing of 150,000 Serbs who fled from Croatia
during the military offensive.
The United States provided military and technical assistance to Operation Storm
in order to block then-Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic's goal of forging an
ethnically pure Greater Serbia.
The Clinton administration viewed Croatia's military campaign as pivotal to
tilting
the strategic balance of power in the region against Serbian forces, paving the way
for the 1995 Dayton Peace Accords that ended the war in neighboring Bosnia.
However, Mr. Misetic said U.S. support and approval for the military offensive
means the indictment against Gen. Gotovina could lead to the prosecution by The
Hague tribunal of Mr. Clinton and other high-ranking U.S. officials on charges of
having command responsibility for war crimes that were committed during the
operation.
The theory against Gotovina can now be brought against Clinton, [Assistant
Secretary of State Richard] Holbrooke and all the way down the U.S. chain of
command. On the prosecution's logic, they should be indicted as well. They knew the
attack was coming and gave it the green light, Mr. Misetic said.
The prosecutor's office is punting on an issue that is clearly there. They are
claiming that ethnic cleansing took place during this operation. They are claiming that
by virtue of his position, Gotovina had knowledge of war crimes. His knowledge was
shared and given to him by the Pentagon, he said.
Florence Hartmann, spokeswoman for chief prosecutor Carla del Ponte, said the
tribunal is not challenging the legitimacy of Croatia's military offensive but
individual
atrocities carried out by Croatian soldiers whose actions fell under the responsibility
of Gen. Gotovina.
It is not Operation Storm that is being indicted, but the crimes that were
committed during and afterward, Mrs. Hartmann said.
U.S. support for the operation has to be established, she said. I don't know
that
the [Clinton] administration was involved.
Asked whether the prosecutor's office was planning to issue indictments against
either Mr. Clinton or other administation officials, Mrs. Hartmann said: We have no
comment because there is no evidence to substantiate the charges of Gen.
Gotovina's lawyers. They can make their case with evidence to the court.
Mr. Misetic dismissed Mrs. Hartmann's comments as blatant hypocrisy.
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[CTRL] Fascist Netanyahu Didn't Get Expected Support in U.S
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2002/2916bibi_in_us.html This article appears in the April 26, 2002 issue of Executive Intelligence Review. Fascist Netanyahu Didn't Get Expected Support in U.S. by Scott Thompson Former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu, acting as spokesman for his Likud party rival Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, staged a Nuremberg Nazi Party-style rally on Capitol Hill on April 15, capping a week of openly defending a genocide policy. Despite Netanyahu's willingness to kill the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal statutes against "crimes against humanity" and international law when it comes to liquidating the Palestinian Authority, "Bibi" did not receive quite the red carpet treatment he had expected. At an April 10 visit to the U.S. Senate, for example, where that day's Roll Call had announced that most of the 100 Senators were expected, only 20 came—and many of them questioned the rabidness of Bibi's Clash of Civilizations approach to Israel-Palestine. At the National Press Club the same day, Netanyahu had been greeted by a half-empty room and almost no applause, and pelted by hostile questions, including one from EIR's Counterintelligence Editor Michele Steinberg. She demanded a response to the revelation of EIR and others, acknowledged by Sharon spokesman Ra'anan Gissen, that the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) were employing Nazi SS Gen. Jürgen Stroop's model for destruction of the Warsaw Ghetto, to destroy the Palestinian Authority. Seeking to threaten President George W. Bush with the combined clout of U.S.-based Zionists and "Christian Zionists" as an election draws near, Bibi's April 15 rally drew no more than 40,000 people, where "Christian Zionists" from the co-sponsoring National Unity Coalition for Israel had been trumpeting that there would be several hundred thousand, and where Minister Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam brought more than 1 million to the same spot in 1996. Phase One of Propaganda Blitzkrieg On April 4, according to the Israeli Press Office, Prime Minister Sharon had met with Netanyahu to discuss the "diplomatic-communications campaign in the United States and Europe." They apparently agreed to coordinate their wartime propaganda thrust, and Prime Minister Sharon, feeling the knife at his back from the Israeli extreme right wing which has made Bibi their poster boy, told him to become a spokesman for Israel. Netanyahu set off for the mecca of all would-be Israeli prime ministers, New York City. Already, on April 7, Bibi appeared on CBS's "Face the Nation," where he described his role to host Bob Schieffer: "I told the Prime Minister, when I met with him a few days ago, that I would gladly help present Israel's most basic case, but I'm not a spokesman for [the government's] day-to-day policies." The "basic case" is that Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat "must be removed," and the entire Palestinian Authority dismantled as "part of the infrastructure of terror." At the National Press Club in Washington, Netanyahu was all aggression, calling for a two-front war that would simultaneously eliminate Iraq's Saddam Hussein and Yasser Arafat—"Arafatistan must be destroyed like Afghanistan"—and denouncing Europe for "backing murderers" (i.e., the Palestinians) after Europe had remained silent 60 years ago when Jews were being slaughtered. The first two questions were hostile, and already got under Bibi's skin, especially a quote from columnist William Raspberry that Ariel Sharon "is no different from suicide terrorists." Then Steinberg's challenge—"Many people are comparing the attacks on Jenin exactly to that Warsaw Ghetto strategy. What is your comment on this; do you dissociate from this view?"—made Bibi furious. "This is obscene!" he spat, and warned that Israel "could be using squadrons and squadrons of air power" if it wanted to, but is being restrained, and "protecting civilians." When Steinberg reminded him that an Israeli daily newspaper had first revealed the IDF's study of Nazi Warsaw Ghetto methods, Netanyahu denounced that paper, Ha'aretz—whose articles are used by the Israeli Government Press Office in their daily report. Finally, when Steinberg asked about United Nations Resolutions 1402 and 1403 demanding IDF withdrawal from the Palestinian Territories, Netanyahu denounced them as well: "Look, if Israel listened to the UN, it wouldn't exist!! Do you know that the UN condemned Israel for destroying Saddam Hussein's nuclear bomb in 1981 just in the nick of time?" At the under-attended Senate event, organized by Sen. John Kyl (R-Ariz.), former Democratic Party Vice Presidential candidate Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.) introduced Netanyahu. "The suicide killers in Israel," pronounced Lieberman, "are cut out of the same cloth as the suicide killers who killed 3,000 Americans on Sept. 11th." President Yasser Arafat "had hijacked the legitimate Palestinian cause," he claimed, and added that "no one was better suited to
[CTRL] LaRouche Tells Bush: Do Not Repeat Bill Clinton's Mistake!
http://www.larouchepub.com/pr_lar/2002/020414clinton_mistake.html LaRouche Tells Bush: Do Not Repeat Bill Clinton's Mistake! Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. issued the following statement on April 14, 2002. President Bush has but one problem which he must face personally, if he is going to escape successfully from the "lame duck" trap being set for him currently by both the Lieberman- Brzezinski cabal, which is doing just that intentionally, and also the manifest majority among his relevant current advisors, who are doing it out of stupidity. He must dump every consideration but standing before a mirror, to ask himself, "Forget the election-campaign. Do what neither Senator Lieberman or Al Gore would be capable of doing: Think like the kind of President our Constitution implies." Remember President Eisenhower and the Suez Crisis. It would help the President to see his available pathway more clearly, if he would tell Ari Fleischer to dump the current White House line on Bill Clinton's performance. Clinton expressed excellent intentions, but he failed on four leading counts, four counts on which he acted more like a sponsor and lawyer for Ehud Barak's career, than as the President of the U.S.A. First, he entangled himself in Barak's career publicly. Second, when Barak set the President up as a patsy, Clinton swallowed it. To this he added two fatal mistakes which helped to make Ariel Sharon's currently ongoing, Nazi- Warsaw-Ghetto-like operations against the Palestinians possible. First, he evaded the fact that no peace between Israel and Palestine would ever become possible, without a major economic-development program based upon massive desalination and related water development programs. Second, when Chairman Arafat had been ready to sign on the dotted line, so to speak, the President publicly blamed Arafat, rather than Barak, for blowing up the Camp David negotiations, by bringing the issue of redistributing Middle East religious sites, such as Holy Mountain, thus creating the circumstances under which Sharon unleashed the present campaign of religious warfare and radical-right-wing Likud ethnic cleansing policies, into the situation. Clinton's biggest blunder of all, was his fatal error of allowing himself to be put in the position of presiding over a negotiation over Middle East religious sites, thus helping Sharon set the stage for unleashing a form of religious warfare in the Middle East which threatens to enflame most of the world. No inaugurated President of the U.S.A. should ever permit any political or personal pressures to cause him to forget the unique meaning of the words "President of the U.S.A." among the governments of the world. President Eisenhower typifies the quality of President who made a decision of that quality in the matter of the Suez Crisis. A President must put his political career at total risk, if need be, if he must take that risk by making a Presidential, rather than a partisan political or career decision, in any moment in which the nature of the constitutional office of President is a stake. Such a moment, such a decision, hovers before President Bush right now. Our Federal constitutional government is historically unique among the nations of the world. In spite of the several existential crises which our system of self-government has suffered, such as that of 1932-1933, it has never been necessary to disturb the principles of our Constitution, especially as this pertains to our Executive Branch, with its implicit constitutional personal powers and responsibilities of the President. The assurance that this will continue to be the case, depends upon the degree to which the incumbent President, as a person, is able to recognize that it is to that Constitution and its implications, that he must be faithful, above all other possibly conflicting considerations. The President who can say "No. Do not push me to cross this line," even when virtually all his advisors and constituents are pushing him, is a true President, whenever that decision is based on Constitutional considerations inherent in that office. The present Middle East crisis is such a point of decision, one of several most crucial such tests which are now piling up to confront the recently inaugurated President. The United States' most vital strategic and related interests, including the interests of our European partners, requires an immediate historic intervention establishing a just peace in the Middle East, meaning an immediate establishment of the Palestinian State under its currently elected head of government, Arafat. If President Bush makes that decision right now, it will happen, since the President's decision as President will set into motion the other forces, around the world, which would produce that result. Indeed, all things considered, the fate of the planet as a whole could depend upon just such a decision. Admittedly, it has been a long time, perhaps since President Johnson on civil rights,
[CTRL] THE MEANING OF JENIN
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html April 22, 2002 THE MEANING OF JENIN Is Israel still part of the West? Jenin – the name is now a synonym for the brutality of the Israeli war machine, and for the heroism of the Palestinian people as they seek to defend themselves against a merciless assault. The Israelis and their amen corner aren't going to spin their way out of this one, and they know it. Here's Janine di Giovanni in the London Times: "The refugees I had interviewed in recent days while trying to enter the camp were not lying. If anything, they underestimated the the carnage and the horror. Rarely, in more than a decade of war reporting from Bosnia, Chechnya, Sierra Leone, Kosovo, have I seen such deliberate destruction, such disrespect for human life." Using civilians as human shields, the Israelis went on a rampage of vengeance and bloodlust that only ran its course when the streets of Jenin were running with blood – not only the gore of fighters, as the Israelis are now claiming, but that of innocent civilians wantonly murdered. Here's Marie Colvin, of the Times, tracking down the horrific truth. Apparently, she had only to – literally – follow her nose: "The first medical teams allowed into the Jenin refugee camp last week followed the chickens. Human senses were overwhelmed by the devastation and the stench of death, but the birds were not distracted. They were hungry. Two rusty-colored fowl pecking away at a bundle in the street drew a Red Cross team to the remains of Jamal Sabagh. "He wasn't really recognizable to an untrained eye. His body had been lying there for more than a week. The Israeli army had banned ambulances from the camp for 11 days, and neighbors were too terrified to go to him." "Tank tracks led to his body, over it and onwards through the mud. What had once been a young man was rotting flesh mingled with shredded clothing, mashed into the earth. One foot was all that looked human." THE HOMICIDE OFFENSIVE Oh, can't you just hear Bill Bennett and his fellow Israel Firsters trying to justify this atrocity? After all, Sabagh was a terrorist, a potential suicide bomber, a fanatic bent on the destruction of Israel, and was killed in the course of what the IDF calls a "battle." Except that Sabagh wasn't a fighter. A diabetic too ill to flee, he was also fearful that he might be mistaken for a fighter if he left his house. So he stayed – definitely a mistake: "Two days later, he left his house when the Israelis yelled over megaphones that they were going to blow it up. He walked, directed by soldiers in armoured personnel carriers, with other men to Seha Street at the centre of the camp, carrying his bag of medicines. He joined the crowd. Soldiers yelled at him to take off his shirt, then his trousers. He clung to his bag of medicine as he tried to unbuckle his belt, and he was slow. The soldiers shot him, friends say." The editorially pro-Israel Telegraph was equally damning, with one story headlined "Horror Stories from the Siege of Jenin." Summary executions, including the murder of young children, vicious beatings of women, and a complete disregard for the elementary rules of war, marks the Israelis' "Operation Defensive Shield" – what a name! – as the devilish work of homicidal maniacs. Why else would the IDF have bulldozed houses, without warning, while whole families were still in them? This was the Homicide Offensive, meant to deliver a death blow to the Palestinian nation. But swiftly burying the bodies under tons of rubble wasn't deep enough: as Nahum Barnea, whom the Telegraph describes as Israel's leading newspaper commentator, put it: "If Israel does not find some way to give them a dignified burial, the bodies will bury Israel." SUDETEN PALESTINE Barnea recognizes that the main front in the war for a Greater Israel is not on the West Bank, but in the West Wing – and in the West generally. In the propaganda war for the hearts and minds of their American patrons – without whom Israel would not last a year – the Sharon government is conducting a desperate struggle to suppress the truth not only about Jenin, but about their own annexationist agenda. "Operation Defensive Shield," eh? Now comes the news that Sharon plans to absorb half the West Bank into Israel proper. The Israeli blitzkrieg was about as "defensive" as Germany's invasion of Czechoslovakia in the dark days prior to World War II – and just as ominous. HILLARY JOINS THE VRWC For weeks, the pro-Israel lobby in the US has been on the offensive, mirroring the IDF's scorched earth tactics with a take-no-prisoners propaganda blitz. Former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu led the charge up Capitol Hill, with the usual array of sniper pundits giving him plenty of cover. Bob Novak archly remarked that Bibi's trip seemed to be an electioneering jaunt – perhaps to get his old job back – but left tantalizingly open the question of which election in which country. In a dress rehearsal for the key
[CTRL] The C Word
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.newsmax.com/commentmax/print.shtml?a=2002/4/21/144258 }}}Begin NewsMax.com Stiff Right Jab The 'C' Word: An American Taboo Steve Farrell April 22, 2002 In journalism, some subjects are strictly taboo. Here's one: Politicians, pundits and professors can talk about capitalists conspiring together to form monopolies and cartels even to the point of rigid regulation and prosecution of such activity via the Justice Department. Politicians, pundits and professors can talk about right-wing religious fanatics conspiring together to form terrorist organizations even to the point of waging worldwide open-ended wars, in hopes of rooting them out. Politician, pundits and professors can talk about vast right-wing conspiracies burning down black churches, bombing abortion clinics, beating up on gays and blowing up federal buildings even to the point of radically reining in our freedoms in order to insure such activities never occur again. And politician, pundits and professors can talk about rich and greedy Enron executives conspiring together to deny the little man his fair share of a sinking ship's booty even to the point of moving the government ever closer to the elimination of all private economic activity so as to guarantee worker and investor security. But never, oh never, can The Three P's dare talk about, dare regulate or dare eradicate conspiring men on the left. This is why: Such men on the left don't exist and have, in fact, never existed, except in the minds of Art Bell fans. Admit it. The left (I include globalists) accuse and regulate the right for conspiracies. The right, however, is forbidden from counter-accusing, counter-regulating the left for conspiracies. Yet clearly, the left involves itself as principals, provocateurs, participants and partisans in the same activities, meaning in monopolies, terrorism, bombings and persecuting employees. Moreover, the left has a history of orchestrating protests, boycotts, parades, editorials, lawsuits, violence and revolution, with but one goal in mind: eradicating the Four Corrupt C's: Colonialism, Constitutionalism, Capitalism and Judeo- Christianity. But never mind. The right must keep its peace. The right must concede that the right, because it is the Capitalist, always exploits, bullies and conspires to sustain its profitable, ruling-class position; and that the left, because it is the victim, always spontaneously arises in loose temporary groupings and alliances, which of necessity step forward to correct social, economic and political injustice wherever it is found. If you believe that, I've got some white-sand, palm-tree-laden property to sell you in the tropics of Antarctica. But then again, this politically correct thinking prevails. And so, in honor of such thinking, this week's Leftist, Globalist Apologist, There- Ain't-No-Such-Thing-as-a-Left-Wing-Conspiracy Award goes to David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, for his Hah, Hah! Hee, Hee! retort in the April 6 Washington Times, in reference to conspiracy theories persistently besieging the Trilateral Commission. Before proceeding, for those unfamiliar with the Trilateral Commission, here's a quick synopsis: As the name Trilateral reflects, its mission is to divide the world into three regional trade regimes, or three regional super-governments, as an interim step toward world government. David Rockefeller, at the time of the commission's creation, confessed that Zbigniew Brzezinski's book Between Two Ages gave him the inspiration for the commission, and thus, the appointment of Brzezinski as its first director, was a natural. Yet in that book, Brzezinski called Marxism the best available insight into contemporary reality and outlined the goal of the Trilateral Commission as being [the forging of a] community of the developed nations that would embrace the Atlantic states, the more advanced European communist states, and Japan as a stepping stone to world government. Dub them, as did Orwell, Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia. I'm not sure what could be clearer, other than to add that an upfront call for world government was deemed too bold, too likely to arouse suspicion among America's sleeping conservatives. Progressive regionalization was thought better hence, the Trilateral Commission. All this is true, though known by too few Americans. Yet Mr. Rockefeller, in the aforementioned Washington Times article, responded to conspiracy/shadow government charges as being absurd ... but, to some extent, ... amusing, as did the commission's press officer, Francois Sauzey. The afraid to say the 'C' word Washington Times let the two dismiss the loonies on the right, without a thoughtful counterbalance. OK, fine. That's my point. What matters is intent. So, of course, when leftist globalists plan on regional government, leading to world government, leading to a world Marxist order, it is only like-minded individuals
[CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS APR 22
Post - Last year was the fifth year in a row that transit ridership grew faster than highway use, according to statistics compiled by the American Public Transportation Association . . . Americans made a record 9.5 billion trips on mass transit last year, 2 percent more than in 2000. Highway use grew 1 percent, with Americans driving 2.8 trillion miles. MORE http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4752-2002Apr17.html ||| LA had a 61% increase in subway ridership last year. Leaders in new commuter rail ridership include Burlington Vermont, Seattle, Dallas and San Jose. Denver, Phoenix, and Philadelphia all saw major jumps in bus ridership. ECOLOGY ||| Mark Henderson, times, London - The world will become up to 1.3C (2.3F) warmer over the next three decades, according to a new 30-year forecast of climate change prepared by British scientists . . . While the figures do not look large, the total warming effect seen during the entire 20th century was just 0.6C, and the predicted rise would have profound consequences for agriculture and sea levels around the world. MORE http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2-270173,00.html ||| KIM MURPHY, LA TIMES - While the Bush administration appears to have lost its bid to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil exploration, the Interior Department is preparing to allow oil leasing on an even larger tract of pristine coastal land on the other side of Alaska's North Slope. Unlike the refuge, the 9.6 million acres within the National Petroleum Reserve-Alaska, west of the Prudhoe Bay oil field, would not require further congressional approval before oil and gas exploration could expand in 2004 . . . The reserve is the summer home to millions of migratory birds, the largest lake in the American Arctic and half a million caribou. With 23.5 million acres, the NPRA is the largest tract of undeveloped land in North America. MORE http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-042102npra.story DRUG BUSTS The government of Bologna has acquitted a young man arrested for possession of 512 ecstasy tablets. According to the defence's plea, accepted by the court, quantity is not a determining factor for distinguishing between personal use and peddling. \ GREAT MOMENTS IN EDUCATION JOEL MILLER, WOLRD NET DAILY - A music teacher in an inner-city Michigan grade school is getting an earful from the higher-ups about the type of songs she can use in her classroom. According to the April 17 issue of the Rutherford Institute's Insider, the teacher isn't in trouble for having the children sing lines from the latest Snoop Dogg rap album or even getting the tykes to trot out with something as strictly verboten as Jesus Loves Me. No, said the Insider, school administrators informed her that she could not use any songs in class that contain the words 'freedom' or 'liberty.' Why not, you might wonder. Simple: Because some children in the school are not U.S. citizens. MORE http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27319 HEALTH ||| JOYCE Howard Price, WASHINGTON TIMES - A California dentist who has survived a heart attack, liver cancer and three liver transplants is trying to start a national campaign to pressure Congress to base funding for disease research on mortality, a move that would sharply reduce AIDS funding. Dr. Richard Darling, 55, of Palm Desert calls it grossly unfair that the money spent by the National Institutes of Health for research into AIDS which killed 15,245 Americans last year, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention exceeds the amount allotted for research into heart disease, which kills more than 700,000 Americans annually. The NIH research budget for cardiovascular diseases totaled $1.9 billion in this fiscal year, while its AIDS counterpart was $2.5 billion, according to NIH's Office of AIDS Research . . . The entire allocation system is outrageously biased toward AIDS. The system is extremely unfair to heart disease, lung disease, liver disease, diabetes, breast cancer, prostate disease, Alzheimer's and leukemia, Dr. Darling said in a telephone interview, citing some of the medical conditions that outstrip AIDS in terms of deaths but which lag far behind in funding . . . Dr. Darling, who's given up his dental practice and is trying to stay alive, notes that NIH's $900 million increase for AIDS research between fiscal 1998 and 2002 is more than the total $772 million research budget for diabetes in fiscal 2002. While AIDS has killed a total of fewer than 31,000 in the past two years, diabetes killed nearly 68,700 in 2000 alone MORE http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020422-69582976.htm\ ||| UN WIRE - Nearly 30 percent of South Africa's labor force will be infected with HIV by 2005, according to NMG-Levy Consultants and Actuaries' annual report on labor relations and employee benefits, released yesterday. Showing how hard the HIV/AIDS pandemic has hit South Africa, the report says the life expectancy of women
Re: [CTRL] Evidence 101 for Andrew
Andrew: Ok, since you appear to be serious this time, let's take this from the top--again. Evidence: the material or, in certain instances, anecdotal indication of the existence of postulate fact in which either cannot be disputed by reasonable objective analysis or is otherwise acquired by objective (casual) observation. well that certainly fits the known sumerian archaeology, Then you can cite examples (URLS to objective materials will do) of either reptilian cultural artifacts or of the remains of transgenic/xenomorphic life forms which do not fall within any terran phylogeny, AND which clearly depart from any known humanoid genome (e.g, Neanderthal, Homo Sapiens or any other primate in general). indian, chinese, south american and european ethnological evidence of beliefs and artefacts and other collected anecdotes from the 17 -19 century that substantiate reptoid civilisation. Likewise here, but I would only accept *multiple* (two or more) vicarious accounts of the *same phenomena* from the mythology/folklore of differing cultures as adequate anecdotal evidence--provided that all accounts are published side by side for comparison (for example, multiple accounts from differing cultures of the great flood). you plead ignorance of the supporting facts What supporting facts? I've seen none thus far. I've seen tons of speculation on the basis of remotely similar cultural anecdotes, but no facts. Here's your chance to convince me. for the reptoid thesis edward. That's just it. I've seen multiple theses, but no evidence to back any of them up. yet there is a global museum full of reptoid references; material, anecdotal, objective and non-human. Such as? I'm sure you could pop out a URL to some really good source. A page put up by some high school kid on Geocities doesn't count :-) How do you rationally explain this empirical data ? Such as? lets get philosophy of science then How do you manage to refute the conjecture that the mountain of reptilian artefacts and ethnological evidence points to the existence of a reptilian species on this planet ??? I don't refute it any longer. Quite honestly, after an initial--fruitless--search for rational information on the subject, I consigned the whole business to being the work of cheap shills who wanted nothing more than to sell books to sc-fi buffs. I then discovered that people were actually taking this nonsense seriously. What reason do you have to dismiss the more than obvious data ??? Simple: I've seen NO data. lets have one of your allegedly reasonable objective analysis of the known reptilian thesis - and frequent references to david icke wont be your get out here - lets deal with just the known facts - I want to see your rational mind at work here. OK, provide some facts, and we'll go from there. What irrationally propels you to discount the known obvious empirical data and artefacts for reptilian civilisation Uh, maybe the absence of known, obvious, empirical data propels me. :-) - and don't be afraid to gimme philosophy of science, and all them rational stuff coz me and ma gerbils iz intae epistemology. andrew hennessey www.trans4rm.co.uk [ps. educated in scotland] Educated in Scotland as what? :-) BTW, while you're rustling up the facts, could you please change the background image on your page? It sure would make the text easier to read :-) Edward + I'm not paranoid. I just wear this foil hat to keep the government mind control rays from penetrating my skull. http://www.global-connector.com ~~
[CTRL] Drug War: Covert Money, Power Policy: Propaganda
http://www.drugwar.com/propaganda.shtm Drug War: Covert Money, Power Policy: Propaganda Prohibition is about economic and military power, not health. It was the geopolitical utility of medical monopoly that saw it come to pass. The Harrison Act was conceived in China, at the 1909 Shanghai Opium Commission, the idea being that America should pass a model "no license" law it could then ask other nations to adopt. President Roosevelt had arbitrated the end of the Russo-Japanese War only to observe Russia and Japan dividing Manchuria, Mongolia and Korea between them. With China beginning to industrialize on a massive scale, all the imperial powers were delighted to have a "pro-Chinese" issue they could sell while competing for China. America, with never more than 2500 troops in China, had the weakest military position, and so led the fight for an "open door" and an end to the opium trade. The Chinese leadership had grown to hate opium because the British controlled the nationwide trade, and had used it as a lever to control China. Industrialization, however, with its mills, mines and railroads, had created different stakes. For America, Chinese cooperation in the industrial competition was essential. The weaker the British position, the stronger the U.S. The Chinese government encouraged groups like the Foochow Anti-opium Society, below, to express their politically correct feelings for the foreign press. Wright criminalized "nonmedical" use of "opium or coca leaves or any compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, or preparation thereof." Wiley's unempirical equation of herbs and alkaloids had already achieved the status of legal precedent. Lobbying Congress in 1910 for his new bill, Wright fretted about cocaine's "encouragement among the humbler ranks of the Negro population in the Southit has been authoritatively stated that cocaine is often the direct incentive to the crime of rape by the Negroes of the South and other sections of the country." Here you have the geopolitical, the economic utility of racism. Wright wrote the editor of the Louisville Journal Courier that "a strong editorial from you on the abuse of cocaine in the South would do a great deal of good - do not quote me or the Department of State." The 1912 Hague Opium Convention, which grew out of the Shanghai Commission, committed the U.S. by treaty to Wright’s law, the 1914 Harrison Act, a domestic law controlling opium and coca products. Below, Hearst’s Magazine revivifies the 1880’s pulp legend of the roué Clendenin, in time to support Harrison. Domestic drug propaganda is still the tool of imperial foreign policy. Today the operative treaties, also engineered by the U.S., are the 1961 Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, the 1971 Convention on Psychotropic Substances and the 1988 Vienna Antitrafficking Convention. Wright wrote Bishop Brent, his fellow delegate to the Shanghai Opium Commission, that the new Secretary of State Knox was "only now grasping the fact that in this opium business he has the oil to smooth any troubled waters he may meet with at Peking in his aggressive business enterprises there." The other delegate, future President William Howard Taft, the inventor of "dollar diplomacy," likewise worried about "one of the greatest commercial prizes in the worldthe trade with the 400,000,000 Chinese." America's "aggressive business enterprises" were challenged head-on by anti-prohibitionist Eugene Debs, leader of the powerful American Railway Union. Debs' moderate, libertarian Socialist Party was the electoral umbrella for scores of left-wing groups, including the industrial workers in the Northeast; German and Scandinavian enclaves in the upper Midwest; the radical populists of the Great Plains; Big Bill Haywood's tough miners and lumberjacks in the Western Federation of Miners - core group of the IWW; Margaret D. Robins' National Women's Trade Union League, and Alice Paul's direct action National Woman's Party - the radical spearhead that actually forced through woman suffrage. It was their ideas of the minimum wage, social security and unemployment insurance that helped stabilize capitalism during the Great Depression. And it was Lippmann who warned that "the manufacture of consent" by the corporate owners of the media was a deadly threat to real democracy. As corporate hit-man Edward Bernays, "the father of public relations" put it, in 1928, in Propaganda: "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country…it is the intelligent minorities which need to make use of propaganda continuously and systemically." Propaganda during these years meant William Randolph Hearst, who owned the most powerful chain of yellow journals in the country. Hearst built its core circulation, the
[CTRL] 3-year-old Palestinian shot dead by Israelis
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow.asp?art_ID=7582544 3-year-old Palestinian shot dead by Israelis AFP [ SUNDAY, APRIL 21, 2002 7:43:52 PM ] GAZA CITY: Four Palestinian children were wounded, including a three-year-old shot in the head, when Israeli troops fired on them as they threw stones at Israeli bulldozers in the Gaza Strip on Sunday, Palestinian witnesses and medics said. The children were lobbing stones at tanks and bulldozers trying to clear an area between the autonomous southern town of Rafah and the neighbouring refugee camp, both close to the border with Egypt. The soldiers opened fire with live bullets, witnesses said, hitting three-year-old Ahmad Zaanoun in the head. His condition was critical, medics said. On Saturday, the army wounded 20 Palestinians near Rafat and Khan Yunis, during a similar operation to clear an area of land, hospital sources said. Israel frequently raids Palestinian self-rule areas in Gaza to flatten areas that could be used by militants to launch attacks, although since the end of March it has concentrated its military might in the West Bank.
[CTRL] 2 Palestinian farmers shot by Jewish settlers who then steal their goats.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=7510323 2 Palestinian farmers shot by Jewish settlers AFP [ SUNDAY, APRIL 21, 2002 3:25:43 AM ] NABLUS: A gang of 20 Jewish settlers shot two Palestinian farmers, injuring one seriously, in the northern West Bank village of Urif near Nablus, Palestinian security sources told AFP late Saturday. The settlers, who were thought to be from the Jewish settlement of Yizhar, south of Nablus, busted into a Palestinian goat farm and shot two farmers, the sources said. A 42-year-old man was in very serious condition, while the other was only lightly wounded, the sources said. The group then stole some 50 goats from the farm, 10 of which they had shot, they added. Although the Israeli army appeared at the scene, they did nothing to stop the settlers, the sources told AFP. It was not clear where the settlers might have come from but Urif lies just a few kilometers southwest of the Jewish settlement of Yizhar. The Israeli police said it had no knowledge of the event, while the army had no immediate comment.
[CTRL] THE STATE OF ISRAEL WAS FOUNDED ON THE HOLOCAUST MYTH
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/04/10/27496.html Pravda.RU:Top Stories:More in detail 17:14 2002-04-10 THE STATE OF ISRAEL WAS FOUNDED ON THE HOLOCAUST MYTH April 9 was a memorial day for the victims of the Holocaust. “Holocaust” means “burnt-offering,” as translated from the ancient Greek language. The Nazis were trying to destroy Jews as a nation, sending them to concentration camps, gas chambers, and performing mass executions by shootings. Fascists reportedly killed about six million Jews during the years of the World War II. Why does this memorial day fall on April 9th? This was the day when prisoners rebelled in the Warsaw ghetto, but the prisoners were not only Jews by the way. Fifty-six thousand people were killed when the fascists suppressed the rebellion. Alla Gerber, the president of the Holocaust fund, remembers the following: “I know that my grandmother from Kiev did not have enough energy to get into the ghetto in the city of Odessa. She fell down and was shot. I know that the family of my other grandmother from Kiev was killed in Babiy Yar. I remember this, and I always will. I will never be able to forget this, because I do not want this to repeat again (Babiy Yar is a settlement on the outskirts of Kiev.) Thirty-five thousand Jews were shot in that village in 1941, and some 200-thousand civilians and prisoners were killed there during 1941-1943). The Russian Jewish Congress distributed a statement today, in which the following was said: “Paying tribute to the six million Jews who were killed in the fire of the World War II, we cannot separate the tragic events of sixty years ago from what is going on with Jews and the Jewish state. The Nazi genocide, from which many Jews suffered in the twentieth century, is not comparable with the current events in the Middle East. When anti-Semites raise their heads in “the tolerant Europe,” when skinheads are active in Russia, and when blood is being shed in the Middle East, we remember and mourn the millions of people who were killed just because for being different from their murderers.” What can be noticed about the Jews of the whole world is their unity and solidarity, which they have exercised throughout history. It seems that any unbiased observer can see the aggressiveness of the current Tel Aviv policy (of the policy since 1967, to be more precise) against the Palestinian autonomy and other countries of the Arab world. However, this is not the way that the Jews think. Moreover, the congress draws a parallel between the elimination of Jews of the past and their “genocide” today, allegedly, with the consent of the international community. This is an overwhelming feeling of offence for the whole world. The feeling that “everybody owes something to me,” is a peculiar feature of the Jewish national character. This feature dictates a certain stereotype of behavior: each Jew enjoys the full rights of being a citizen of Israel, even if this Jew lives in Zimbabwe or East Timor. Speaking about the Holocaust of the World War II, the latest research that has been conducted by scientists of different countries regarding the mass genocide against Jews and the real number of victims, testifies to multiple and unjustified exaggerations and distortions of the real events. There was a conference in Moscow devoted to the global problems of world history. One of the reporters said at the conference that, after performing a special electromagnetic examination of the “mass burial” in two camps (Treblinka and Belsits), it became known that the “official version” of the burial could not withstand any criticism: the soil could not be influenced with any external effect, ect. It should also be mentioned here that the adversaries of the Holocaust (or revisionists, as they are often called), do not try to prove it to the world that Jews were not persecuted in National-Socialist Germany, or that there were no losses among the Jewish nation during the war. It goes about the fact that Nazis were eliminating not only Jews. They were running the genocide policy against Gypsies, the Slavs, and other representatives of lower races. There is no other nation in the world that has suffered so much during the war, as the people of Belarus did. But everyone is silent about it. Valery Lebedev, who read The Myth of the Holocaust, said: “When I found out that the furnaces in the crematoriums of the fascist camps were muffle, and the Zyclone-B gas was insecticide (insect poison), that was enough for me. Those readers who do not know much of chemistry, may not understand anything here, but I know what muffle is, since I have worked in the gas industry. I even feel shame for myself. Why didn't I pay attention to that stupid Zyclone-B gas that was evolving from granules within two hours? There was no killing of Jews in gas chambers of the Nazi camps, since there were no chambers there. The bombing of Germany and the evacuation of the camps blocked
[CTRL] Fired-Up Fascists Fault Fuming Flames
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.au.org/churchstate/cs3023.htm }}}Begin Witch Hunt Why The Religious Right Is Crusading To Exorcise Harry Potter Books From Public Schools And Libraries By Rob Boston Robert Fichthorn had decided to take a stand. Fichthorn, captain of the Penryn, Pa., fire police, a volunteer body that provides traffic control services during fires, auto accidents and civic events, declared in late January that his officers would not help cordon off streets during a YMCA-sponsored triathlon scheduled for this September. Fichthorns reason surprised many in the community. Despite its Christian roots, Fichthorn asserted, the YMCA is in fact supporting witchcraft by allowing students taking part in an after-school program to read the popular Harry Potter books. The fire police would do nothing, he insisted, to aid this nefarious behavior. I dont feel right taking our childrens minds and teaching them [witchcraft], Fichthorn hold the Lancaster New Era. As long as we dont stand up, it wont stop. Fichthorns declaration hit the local papers and promptly sparked an uproar in the tiny central Pennsylvania community. But things really got interesting after the story was circulated nationally by the Associated Press and spread worldwide over the Internet. Irate residents squared off in letters to the editor. YMCA officials were swamped with messages from all over the country and even overseas as people offered to stand in for the fire police. Newspaper columnists blasted Fichthorn and the rest of his department as narrow- minded and silly. Sports Illustrated cited the flap as This Weeks Sign of the Apocalypse. The Denver Post gave Fichthorn its Doofus of the Month award. Many in the community and surrounding area were not pleased with the attention. Yes, all across the country, people are reading about the Penryn Fire Police decision to spurn the triathlon because Harry Potter goes against their Christian morals, groused Gil Smart, a columnist with the Lancaster Sunday News. And all across the country, people are thinking: What bumpkins. But if the Penryn Fire Police are bumpkins for hating Harry Potter, they are not the only ones. All over the country, Religious Right groups and local activists have put the Potter series in their theological crosshairs. The Penryn incident captured national headlines, but it is in no way an aberration. According to the American Library Association (ALA), the Potter series, authored by Scottish writer J.K. Rowling, now holds the dubious distinction of being the most censored books in America. Public schools and libraries in many communities are under siege as far-right forces demand that the books be removed outright or placed on restricted access. At first glance, the books look like unlikely candidates for all this fuss. Designed for pre- and early teens, the series recounts the adventures of Harry Potter, an orphan growing up in London. Verbally abused and forced to live in a dingy space at his domineering uncles house, Potters fortunes take a dramatic turn for the better when he learns he is descended from a long line of wizards and is invited to attend Hogwarts, a private academy for wizards in training. The series is phenomenally popular, and the four books so far have sold in the millions worldwide. Late last year, a movie based on the first book, Harry Potter and the Sorcerers Stone, opened to long lines and generally favorable reviews. But not everyone is wild about Harry. Religious Right forces, including TV preacher Pat Robertsons 700 Club, James Dobsons Focus on the Family, the Rev. Louis P. Sheldons Traditional Values Coalition and a host of far-right lesser lights are convinced that the books promote evil and the occult and they are spurring local activists to drive the books from public schools and libraries. A sampling of recent incidents includes: York, Pa.: Led by a local pastor who is also an elementary school teacher, a handful of parents demanded that the Harry Potter books be removed from the Eastern York schools, asserting that the tomes promote witchcraft. Its against my daughters constitution, its evil and it promotes witchcraft, parent Deb Eugenio told reporters. Im not paying taxes to teach my child witchcraft. The school board voted 7-2 in January to allow teachers to continue to use the Potter books provided that parents first sign permission slips. Sixth-grade teacher Ed Althouse had been using the first book, Harry Potter and the Sorcerers Stone, during a unit on fantasy literature. The parents of four students declined to sign the permission slips, and their children were given an alternate assignment. Alamogordo, N.M.: In an incident that captured headlines worldwide, Pastor Jack Brock of the Christ Community Church led a mass burning of Harry Potter books Dec. 30. Brock told reporters that the books encourage our youth to learn more about witches, warlocks and sorcerers, and those things
[CTRL] Ariel Sharon and Slobodan Milosevic- What's the difference?
http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=14524 Falling scales Arab News Editorial 20 April 2002 What is the difference between Ariel Sharon and Slobodan Milosevic, now on trial for war crimes? Apart from the fact that one killed Bosnians and Albanians while the other kills Palestinians, the answer is none whatsoever. At least, that is the answer heard across the Arab and Muslim world. Now, across the West too, the same judgment is heard. Public opinion has started to regard Sharon as a war criminal. Over the past couple of weeks, the scales have fallen from millions of eyes. No longer is it seen in the way it has long tired to present itself, as the underdog, the plucky little David battling against an Arab Goliath that seeks to destroy it. Rather, it is the Israelis who are seen as the jackbooted thugs, the Palestinians as the defenseless victims. If any one thing has changed Western views — and they have changed even in the US — it is Jenin. Taking the lead from the media, which has never been so uniformly hostile and critical of Israel, Western public has been visibly shocked and sickened by reports of innocent Palestinians civilians being slaughtered or being left to bleed to death and their newborn infants to perish because they were prevented from getting medical attention. There is still repugnance for the suicide bombers and little affection for the Palestinian leadership. But there is unprecedented sympathy for the Palestinians, mirrored by anger at Israel and disgust with Sharon. This is new, and its significance should not be underestimated. For example, for one of Britain’s leading Jewish politicians, former Labor government minister Gerald Kaufman, hitherto a strong supporter of everything Israel does, to describe the Israeli prime minister as a "war criminal" as he did in Parliament last week, is an unheard-of development. The shift is seen in other ways. When, again in the UK, the French ambassador was recently reported to have described Israel as that "shitty little state", there was little condemnation or outrage, other than from overtly pro-Israeli sources. Indeed, it now seems as if many concur, if not in words then in sentiment. Israel’s onslaught tops the news throughout the Western world, even in France which, with its presidential election just days away, might have been thought to be otherwise preoccupied. In London, Paris, Amsterdam people can be heard starting conversations with questions such as "What do you think about the Israelis?" (the inference being "Who would have believed it, or more bluntly: "Are the Israelis insane?" >From an Arab perspective, coming at a time when the news is otherwise depressing and cause for the deepest anger, this development is immensely encouraging. Already, the EU has floated the idea of sanctions against Israel. It may not happen; but Israel is fast assuming pariah status. The possibility that Sharon will one day be brought to international justice for his crimes certainly becomes daily more credible. For years, Arabs and Muslims have told an unreceptive world that Israel is a racist, militaristic state. Finally people are listening, thanks to Sharon. Just as Milosevic’s bigoted warmongering all but destroyed Serbia, he has ironically done more to undermine and destroy the credibility of Israel than any Palestinian. It is encouraging.
[CTRL] Ruppert:The Case For Bush Administration Advance Knowledge Of 911 Attacks
http://www.rense.com/general24/adv.htm The Case For Bush Administration Advance Knowledge Of 911 Attacks By Michael C. Ruppert 4-22-2 © COPYRIGHT 2002, Michael C. Ruppert and FTW Publications, http://www.copvcia.com/ all rights reserved. May be reprinted, distributed or posted on web sites for non-profit purposes only.] April 22, 2002, 1200 PDT (FTW) -- A dispassionate examination of existing reliable, open-source evidence on advance warnings of the Sept. 11 attacks provides strong and sustainable grounds to conclude the Bush Administration was in possession of sufficient advance intelligence to have prevented the attacks, had it wished to do so. With a known intelligence budget of approximately $30 billion, it must be assumed there are classified files that only add to the weight of the available data presented here. Is it reasonable to assume that what is presented here is the only intelligence the U.S. possessed? This article will focus on four primary areas where the U.S. had information that forewarned of the attacks in sufficient detail to have prompted their prevention. Those areas are: Documented warnings received by the United States Government (USG) from foreign intelligence services; Obvious and large scale insider stock trading in the days before the attacks; Known intelligence successes achieved by the USG in its penetrations of Al Qaeda; and, the case of Delmart Mike Vreeland, a U.S. Naval intelligence officer jailed in Canada at the request of U.S. authorities, who -- with his attorneys -- spent months attempting to warn USG and Canadian intelligence officials of the pending attacks, only to be rebuffed and ignored. This article will not focus on a number of well-known and documented instances where the Bush Administration actively interfered with or curtailed investigations into Al Qaeda-linked groups that could have provided even more intelligence. Included in this category are reports by the BBC s Gregg Palast, the French book The Forbidden Truth, and a lawsuit/OPR complaint filed by an active FBI agent alleging investigations that could have prevented the attacks were derailed by superiors, in some cases on orders from the White House. WARNINGS FROM FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE SERVICES This section focuses on known advance warnings received by the U.S. government from foreign intelligence services that proved to be specific enough to have identified the date (within one week), method, targets, and perpetrators of the attacks. It will not include warnings issued to the USG that could be considered vague or non-specific. The latter includes documented warnings sent by the governments of Egypt and Israel. However, in light of the specific warnings, these additional warnings add greater weight to the argument that the Administration was in possession of sufficient information to have prevented the attacks. As reported in the respected German daily Frankfurter Algemeine Zeitung (FAZ) on Sept. 14, 2001 the German intelligence service, the BND, warned both the CIA and Israel that Middle Eastern terrorists were planning to hijack commercial aircraft to use as weapons to attack important symbols of American and Israeli culture. The story specifically referred to an electronic eavesdropping system known as Echelon, wherein a number of countries tap cell phone and electronic communications in partner countries and then pool the information. The BND warnings were also passed to the United Kingdom. No known denial by the BND of the accuracy of this story exists, and the FAZ story indicates that the information was received directly from BND sources. According to a Sept. 14 report in the Internet newswire online.de, German police, monitoring the phone calls of a jailed Iranian man, learned the man was telephoning USG intelligence agencies in summer 2001 to warn of an imminent attack on the World Trade Center (WTC) in the week of Sept. 9. German officials confirmed the calls to the USG for the story but refused to discuss additional details. In August 2000 French intelligence sources confirmed a man recently arrested in Boston by the FBI was an Islamic militant and a key member of Osama bin Laden s Al Qaeda network. The FBI knew the man had been taking flying lessons at the time of his arrest and was in possession of technical information on Boeing aircraft and flight manuals, as reported by Reuters on Sept. 13. According to a story in Izveztia on Sept. 12, Russian intelligence warned the USG that as many as 25 suicide pilots were training for missions involving the crashing of airliners into important targets. In an MSNBC interview on Sept. 15, Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that he had ordered Russian intelligence to warn the USG in the strongest possible terms of imminent assaults on airports and government buildings before the attacks on Sept. 11. As reported by CNN s Daniel Seberg on Sept. 28, Newsbytes Brian McWilliams on Sept. 27 and the Israeli newspaper Ha aretz, Odigo, the
[CTRL] Army Aerial Spraying Tests Panic,Anger Florida Keys Residents
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/living/community/states/florida/counties/ Army Aerial Spraying Tests Panic, Anger Florida Keys Residents By Jennifer Babson 4-22-2 BOCA CHICA KEY - They worry about allergies and immune system difficulties and ailments yet to be diagnosed. A few bolted for points north; others shuttered windows and stayed inside. Word that the U.S. Army was conducting biological and chemical detection tests off Key West last week -- using a crop duster to spray what it says are benign substances over a small swath of the Gulf -- set alarm bells ringing for some on this island chain. ''Monday I had my house closed up all day and the air conditioner running because I was concerned and I couldn't find out what was going on. The newspaper didn't say exactly where they were dropping,'' said Bill Eardley, a retiree who lives on Sugarloaf Key. "If I had known in advance, and I was concerned, I would have jumped in a car or plane and gotten out of here.'' Using a small plane to release egg white powder, clay dust, ethanol, irradiated vegetable spores and a chemical compound commonly found in drugstore cosmetics -- all designed to simulate more ominous compounds -- Army and Environmental Protection Agency researchers were trying to determine whether civilian Doppler and drug interdiction radars can tell the difference between a raincloud carrying moisture and a cloud carrying something more ominous. The experiments -- concluded last week -- were deemed a success, though the Army still says it needs to conduct an additional $15 million to $20 million worth of testing in the U.S. Researchers are hoping software could be attached to civilian radars like those used by the National Weather Service to alert military and civilian authorities to unusual chemical or biological events or attacks. But some locals greeted the tests themselves as a kind of preliminary attack. ''The weirdest thing I heard from a couple of people was that spores can travel 1,300 miles. They said that there was a spore release in Texas that arrived in Florida,'' said Mickey Morales, an Army spokesman who was on hand for the drill. ``Some people have told me they have left the area or they have recommended to people that they leave the area.'' It probably didn't help matters locally that the Pentagon went public with details of the tests less than a week before they began. AN EXPOSE A few days earlier, a free Key West newspaper carried a front-page exposé on suspicious, Keys-photographed contrails that sources -- including an unnamed wife of a Navy service member -- insisted were actually ''chemtrails'' that could be the results of secret military experiments. Some worried residents contacted the Army, the media, municipal officials, the EPA and U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson with their concerns -- prompting Nelson's Washington office to inquire about the nature of the tests, Morales said. Last week, it was Morales' job to make the words ''military experiment'' seem palatable. It was a challenge in some quarters. ''A lot of people have claimed they have read X, Y, and Z on the Internet,'' Morales said. ``Somebody called me on his cell phone and wanted to know if it was OK to go boating.'' Liz Holloway's neighbor on Sugarloaf Key ''evacuated'' to a place north of the Everglades when she heard the tests were imminent. ''She has chronic fatigue syndrome and thought it might exacerbate her condition,'' Holloway said. ``Am I worried I am going to get sick 15 years from now? Maybe. But who knows?'' LITTLE NOTICE Holloway said she would have liked more advanced notice. ''My major problem was that I read the stuff in the newspaper and I called the agencies that were supposed to be responsible for the activity, and even their public information officers had no clue what was going on,'' she said. ``I don't begrudge them that they have to do this kind of thing, but at least give us a choice to not be here.'' Some in the Pentagon considered forgoing the public information campaign altogether, said Col. Stephen V. Reeves, program executive officer for the Chemical and Biological Defense program. Reeves was in the Keys Thursday to monitor testing. 'I received [a recommendation] from counsel, `Maybe we should just go ahead,' '' Reeves said. ``I decided not to do that. If we had been quiet about it and somebody had suddenly discovered it, it would have confirmed everybody's worst suspicions.'' The decision on how to publicize the tests apparently went all the way up the chain of command to Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld's office. And so, last week, a steady parade of Keys residents was escorted to a blue tent pitched next to a government RV across U.S. 1 from the entrance to the Boca Chica Naval Air Field. In an effort to allay local fears, Morales made a run to a local grocery, picking up an angelfood cake, Visine eyedrops and a mud mask of the kind used to combat acne -- all of which he
[CTRL] abuse figures, clergy abuse, Venezuela - NY Times
-Caveat Lector- With yesterday's resignation of President Hugo Chavez, Venezuelan democracy is no longer threatened by a would-be-dictator, the venerable newspaper intoned, matched only for boldness in mendacity by the White House's, Now the situation will be one of tranquility and democracy. Of course, the situation was neither one of tranquility nor democracy. Pedro Carmona Estanga, a former oil executive and head of the country's largest business organization, committed a series of monumentally authoritarian acts. With the stroke of a pen, without a mandate from the public, backed only by the authority vested in him by the country's generals, he dissolved the congress, disbanded the Supreme Court, closed the Attorney-General's and comptroller's offices... Study shows sex abuse figures here higher than Europe, US - by Kitty Holland Prof David Finkelhor, director of the Crimes Against Children Research Centre at the University of New Hampshire, said the figures were particularly stark for boys and men. He was speaking at a conference to mark the publication of a study which shows more than 40 per cent of women (42 per cent) and more than a quarter of men (28 per cent) here have been sexual abused or violated in their lifetimeSexual abuse is defined as either contact or non-contact abuse. Non-contact abuse could involve forcing someone to view pornography or watch sexual acts He compared child sexual abuse rates in the three areas and found that while 17 per cent of women in Europe had experienced sexual abuse as children and 29 per cent had in North America, some 30 per cent of Irish women said they had been sexually abused as children. Among men, 5 per cent in Europe and 7 per cent in North America had experienced sexual abuse as children. In Ireland, however, 24 per cent of men were sexually abused as boys. http://scripts.ireland.com/search/highlight.plx?TextRes=Study%20and%20shows%20 and%20sex%20and%20abuse%20and%20figuresPath=/newspaper/ireland/2002/0420/1575 587329hm3rape.html Sex Abuse by Clergy a Global Problem - By Richard N. Ostling AP - NY (AP) - Canada, Australia, Ireland, Britain, France, Germany, Mexico, Poland. It may be the American cardinals who are headed to the Vatican, but the Roman Catholic Church has faced clergy sex scandals around the globe - with the most widespread problems in English-speaking countries. from AOL 4/19/02 L.A. cardinal's role outrages abuse victims - Mahony lacks credibility to protect kids, critics say - Don Lattin, Chronicle Religion Writer 4/19/02 - Abuse victims familiar with a Stockton pedophile case are outraged that Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles -- one of eight U.S. cardinals called to Rome next week over the sex scandal rocking the Catholic Church -- is entrusted with carrying out new policies to protect children from harm. Testimony in the 1998 Stockton case, in which a jury awarded two brothers millions of dollars in damages, indicated that Mahony had knowingly allowed a pedophile priest to continue working and taken no action to keep him away from children. Http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/04/19/M N18747.DTL from Lynne Moss-Sharmann Suit alleges sex abuse at private school Boston Globe 4/22/02 A former employee of a Lenox school for girls with learning and emotional difficulties has sued the school, contending she was fired for complaining about sexual abuse and other problems at the school. Laura Knoepler worked as the clinical coordinator at the Valleyhead School. In her lawsuit filed April 11 in Berkshire Superior Court, she asserts she was fired last November after uncovering ''terrifying, shocking, repulsive, and illegal activities'' at the school. Knoepler alleges that staff members sexually abused students and did not provide proper health care or therapy. Valleyhead founder Matthew J. Merritt Jr. declined to comment on the suit. Knoepler's is the second lawsuit filed against Valleyhead in recent months. Former students filed the first, contending that students were regularly coerced to perform sexual favors for the staff. http://www.swans.com/library/art8/gowans28.html Orwellian Inversion, Or Just Another Day At The New York Times? by Stephen Gowans April 22, 2002 So it was that when Venezuela's military high command told the country's elected president, Hugo Chavez, that he would have to step down for the intolerable crime of supposing his countrymen, 80 percent of whom live below the poverty line, should share in the country's immense oil wealth, the Western world's newspaper of record cheered the coup as a victory for democracy. With yesterday's resignation of President Hugo Chavez, Venezuelan democracy is no longer threatened by a would-be-dictator, the venerable newspaper intoned, matched only for boldness in mendacity by the White House's, Now the situation will be one of tranquility and democracy. Of course, the situation was neither one of tranquility nor
Re: [CTRL] Evidence 101 for Andrew
Evidence: the material or, in certain instances, anecdotal indication of the existence of postulate fact in which either cannot be disputed by reasonable objective analysis or is otherwise acquired by objective (casual) observation.well that certainly fits the known sumerian archaeology,Then you can cite examples (URLS to objective materials will do) of either reptilian cultural artifacts or of the remains of transgenic/xenomorphic life forms which do not fall within any terran phylogeny, yes. firstly recently excavated reptilian statuettes for which I collected the photos. these came from mexico - I can send those on. plus the reptilian figures in egyptian and indian art. The story of the dogon tribe and its acquired knowledge of sirius from reptilians NOT THE THEORIES OF ***but the photographic/archaeological evidence of : SITCHIN, on nibiru and the sumerians great reptile art work and ET knowledge of the solar system that is thousands of years old - certainly before NASA GARDNER genesis of the grail kings great reptile photos/statues TEMPLE on Dogon and Sirius irrefutable in your face reptilian stuff. GILBERTSON 1985 the dark gods absolute seminal work on the ideas and symbolism of humanities dark influences. in these books are reference to xenomorphic life and intelligence and their artefacts and culture as they impacted on ancient human civilisation. with photographs of the reptilain statues eg . marduk GENISIS david wood which imparts the gnostic take on ophiucus and the 13 astrological house of the red serpent, and the origins of the mero and vingian dynasty. there are books of star charts published today whose 'horizon' of ground zero is the serpens constellation. The Norse and finnish eddae and kalevala which mention the giants and serpents and the ancient war between the species - commemorated in the reptilian hybrid statues of greece. eg. ophicius the greek serpent god of medicine - also poseidon etc The shapshifting legends of the naga from tibet collected by osendowski and nicholas roerich. the arhat legends of tibet, the rakshasha legends of india. the shapeshifting origins of the gorgon and athena came from africa originally south american reptilian art and artefacts, chinese and european and indian culture pays tribute to the serpent gods on vases, decorative artwork, dragonlore Countess Bathory [countess dracula] a recent book on an eastern european dark agesnoblewoman and murderer - the midwife tells of the newborn baby turning into a fish and slipping into the bowl. 1697ad the secret commonwealth of elves fauns and faeries by the rev robert kirk early academic treatise on the beings. GRIMMS TEUTONIC MYTHOLOGY icelandic folk tales scottish standing stones eg. st giles, brechin cathedrals, [pictish culture] the global myth of the sea goddess/princess and her blueblood is commemorated all over the planet in folk lore - and especially by the use of the clamshell in heraldry and in the legend of aphrodite. the writings and drawings of john dee elizabethan mage and his enochian script, he drew demonic beings. AND which clearly depart from any known "humanoid" genome (e.g, Neanderthal, Homo Sapiens or any other primate in general). the archaeological finds of benjamin cremo eg. giant related finds - 11 dollars from amazon - forbidden archaeology southern irelands coneheaded 10 foot knights of reknown, coneheaded skulls south america - I have those photos. fossilised giant footprints - eg. brad steiger, or check out the bibliography of the dragon and the disk by ew holiday 1973 isbn0860070565 gods and spacemen in the ancient east w raymond drake isbn 0722130449 1968 strange creatures from time and space. j keel isbn0722151470 1975 biblical references from the king james bible to the serpent of eden AND in conjunction with satanic ideologies and artwork. the pseudopiggrypha ie. the first book of adam. references to satan being a shapeshifter Likewise here, but I would only accept accounts of the *same phenomena* from the mythology/folklore of differing cultures as adequate anecdotal evidence--provided that all accounts are published side by side for comparison (for example, multiple accounts from differing cultures of the great flood).I hope that you don't expect me to research and write a book for you - what you need
[CTRL] Fwd: Orwellian Inversion
---BeginMessage--- Greetings from the Center for an Informed America! Please forward this message widely. If this message was forwarded to you and you would like to receive future mailings, e-mail a request to be added to this mailing list. This article comes courtesy of Swans. The original is at: http://www.swans.com/library/art8/gowans28.html [Editor's Note: In the time that I have been maintaining this web site and running this mailing list, I have never received a fraction of the hostile responses that have been generated by recent mailings concerning the current conflict in the Mideast. It amazes me, quite frankly, that so many people who describe themselves as 'progressives' can be so blinded by religious zealotry as to deny the atrocities being perpetrated by the nation of Israel. All is fine and dandy, it would appear, so long as criticism is directed at the foreign and domestic policies of the United States, but raise your voice to criticize Israel and suddenly one finds their mailbox overflowing with accusations of being an "anti-semite," a "terrorist sympathizer," or an "apologist for suicide bombers." Let's make one thing perfectly clear: there is a very real difference between attacking the policies of the government of Israel and attacking the Jewish faith -- something that any reasonable person should understand. Let's make a couple of other things perfectly clear: first, this web site and mailing list do not toe the media-imposed pro-Israel line; and, second, a fascist is a fascist -- whether sporting a swastika or whether sporting a star of David.] Orwellian Inversion, Or Just Another Day At The New York Times? by Stephen Gowans April 22, 2002 A lie so bold that it turns truth on its head is more likely to be believed than a little lie. Hitler said it, George Orwell explored it in his novel 1984 (whence comes the eponymous "Orwellian inversion"), and The New York Times -- and congeries of New York Times wanna-be's -- practice it. So it was that when Venezuela's military high command told the country's elected president, Hugo Chavez, that he would have to step down for the intolerable crime of supposing his countrymen, 80 percent of whom live below the poverty line, should share in the country's immense oil wealth, the Western world's newspaper of record cheered the coup as a victory for democracy. "With yesterday's resignation of President Hugo Chavez, Venezuelan democracy is no longer threatened by a would-be-dictator," the venerable newspaper intoned, matched only for boldness in mendacity by the White House's, "Now the situation will be one of tranquility and democracy." Of course, the situation was neither one of tranquility nor democracy. Pedro Carmona Estanga, a former oil executive and head of the country's largest business organization, committed a series of monumentally authoritarian acts. With the stroke of a pen, without a mandate from the public, backed only by the authority vested in him by the country's generals, he dissolved the congress, disbanded the Supreme Court, closed the Attorney-General's and comptroller's offices, repealed 48 laws that shifted some of the country's wealth from the elite and oligarchs to the country's poor, ripped up the constitution, and then announced a cabinet whose members comprised the country's most conservative elements. That, apparently, is democracy. Carmona, however, did a quick volte-face when the poor of the country poured into the streets and demanded Chavez's return. Dozens were killed in clashes with the police, a point the country's television stations, almost all controlled by the oligarchs, failed to mention. Unmentioned, too, was the fact that all was not well, and that the situation was neither one of tranquility nor democracy. As for The New York Times' reassurance that Chavez's ouster meant that no one could threaten Venezuela's democracy anymore, the absurdities were so rich, one hardly knew where to start. Since Carmona had cancelled democracy, exactly what democracy Chavez no longer threatened was never clear. Someone at the Times must have been reading Lady Thatcher's memoirs. "Pinochet restored democracy to Chile." Yes, after having cancelled it and making sure that everyone knew what would happen the next time democracy was carried too far to mean something for the majority. Chile's current "socialist" president, who would never dream of being as "socialist" as Salvador Allende (in some ways, an earlier version of Chavez), makes clear Pinochet's point sunk in. For that, Lady Thatcher, champion of that rhetorical form of democracy that reduces to the right of the wealthy to pile up profits unimpeded, and damn the consequences for everyone else, will be forever pleased. And what exactly is a "would-be" dictator, anyway? Something different, I imagine, than Pinochet, the Shah of Iran, Diem, Samoza, Saddam Hussein (when he was still in Washington's good books and before he became a convenient excuse to keep
[CTRL] Breakthrough in Calif power contracts
-Caveat Lector- (Take that, Bush, Cheney, Enron, and friends (fiends?). --SW) Breakthrough in Calif power contracts From the National Desk Published 4/22/2002 8:58 PM SAN FRANCISCO, April 22 (UPI) -- Eight long-term contracts between California and four private power suppliers have been renegotiated at a savings of $3.5 billion to the taxpayers, Gov. Gray Davis announced Monday. The revamped contracts are the first to be renegotiated by the state and could represent a breakthrough in what has become a major election-year issue for Davis, who has been criticized for signing long-term contracts last year that left the state locked in when prices on the open market collapsed. This was a team effort by all parties, Davis said in announcing the agreements in San Francisco. They brought back a better product for less money. The state has gotten the power it needs, where it needs it, when it needs it and at a more competitive rate. The original contracts were hurriedly negotiated by Davis' administration in order to secure a guaranteed supply of power for the state at prices below those being charged on the day-ahead, usually expensive spot market. While they may have accomplished their role last winter, spot market prices have since corrected to levels below the set prices of the long-term deals. The renegotiated contracts total around $11.4 billion, a 23-percent reduction from the original $15 billion; four of the eight pacts were with San Jose-based Calpine. Another was with High Desert Power Plant LLC, a subsidiary of Constellation Energy, which is building a 700-megawatt plant outside Los Angeles; the other three contracts were with renewable-energy companies Capitol Power, Cabazon and Whitewater Hill. Two of Calpine's contracts will provide a total of 1,400 megawatts of baseline power this year, an amount that will increase over the next two years. The other two contracts are for peaker generation that comes on line only during periods of extremely high demand. Some energy industry representatives had warned that pressing for a renegotiation of the contracts would sour the business climate in the California power market, possibly scuttling plans for new power plants and encouraging marketers to sell their electricity in other states. Davis's office said the new contracts provided stronger commitments for power plant construction. Calpine Executive Vice President Jim Macias said his company had no complaints about the new contracts. The state is assured that electricity will be available under more flexible terms when supplies will be critically needed, Macias said. Calpine continues to benefit from solid, long-term power contracts and increased revenue and cash flow in the early years. Macias said the growth potential of California made the state a desirable market that warranted some flexibility on the industry's part. Calpine remains bullish on the long-term California power market, he said. We believe the growing need for new power in California is significant -- particularly as the economy recovers, weather normalizes and older, less- efficient generating assets need to be replaced. (Reported by Hil Anderson, UPI Chief Energy Correspondent) Copyright © 2002 United Press International If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator. -GW Bush during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on 12/18/2000. As broadcast on CNN and available in transcript on their website http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Gore hits Bush on environment
-Caveat Lector- Gore hits Bush on environment From the Washington Politics Policy Desk Published 4/22/2002 7:40 PM NASHVILLE, April 22 (UPI) -- Former presidential candidate Al Gore used Earth Day to criticize President Bush, saying the administration's environmental policies focused on special interests instead of public interests. America is only as healthy as the air our children breathe, the water they drink and the earth they will inherit, Gore told students and environmental activists Monday at Vanderbilt University. But instead of embracing the bipartisan national consensus to improve our environment, the Bush administration has chosen to serve the special interests instead of the public interests and subsidize the obsolete, failed approaches of the past, instead of the exciting new solutions of the future, Gore said. The former vice president's speech was in stark contrast to one given earlier in the day by Bush who said, Limits on toxic emissions have greatly improved the quality of the air we breathe. Bush, who celebrated Earth Day with a brief hike in the snowy Adirondack Mountains in New York, said, The Clean Air Act has helped reduce acid rain and urban air pollution. We've done all this at a time when our economy and population grew dramatically, the president said. We have shown that we can expand our economy for the good of all of is, while also being good and conscientious stewards of the environment. Gore said instead of working to reduce air pollution, the Bush administration's so-called 'Clean Skies' initiative actually allows more toxic mercury, nitrogen oxide and sulfur pollution than if we enforced the laws on the books today. Gore, who was joined at the rally by his wife Tipper, also criticized the Bush administration for favoring increased domestic oil production over conservation. Obviously, we need to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, so that America cannot be held hostage to global chaos and tin-horn tyrants like (Iraqi President) Saddam Hussein, he said. However, Gore stressed that drilling in the Artic National Wildlife Refuge would cause decades of environmental damage -- to reap just a few months of increased oil supply. The fact is when 65 percent of the world's oil supply is in the Gulf and only 3 percent in America, we cannot drill our way to self-sufficiency, he said. Gore who has not announced whether he will challenge Bush in 2004, authored Earth in the Balance in 1992. Copyright © 2002 United Press International In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being transformed before our very eyes. http://www.truthout.com Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Probe into Cuba's possible sunken city advances
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:34:51 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[SO] Probe into Cuba's possible sunken city advances To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Probe into Cuba's possible sunken city advances By Andrew Cawthorne HAVANA, March 29 (Reuters) - Scientific investigators said on Friday they hope to better determine later this year if an unusual rock formation deep off Cuba's coast could be a sunken city from a previously unknown ancient civilization. These are extremely peculiar structures ... They have captured all our imagination, Cuban geologist Manuel Iturralde said at a conference after a week on a boat over the site. If I had to explain this geologically, I would have a hard time, he told reporters later, saying examination of rock samples due to be collected in a few months should shed further light on the formation off the Guanahacabibes Peninsula on Cuba's western tip. Iturralde, research director of Cuba's Natural History Museum, has joined Canadian exploration company Advanced Digital Communications (ADC) in efforts to solve the mystery of the smooth, geometrically shaped, granite-like rocks. They are laid out in structures resembling pyramids, roads and other structures at more than 600 meters deep (2,000 feet) in a 20 km-square (7-3/4 mile-square) area. ADC has suggested they might belong to a civilization that colonized the American continent thousands of years ago, possibly sitting on an island that was sunk to great depths by cataclysmic earth movement such as an earthquake. That theory, and its inevitable parallel with the myth of the lost city of Atlantis, has provoked skepticism from some scientists around the world who say the depth and age -- ADC has spoken of at least 6,000 years' old -- were not credible. Some European archaeologists said the stones, stumbled upon in July 2000 while ADC was hunting with sonar equipment for treasure and sunken Spanish galleons, could be formed by natural limestone. But Iturralde's conclusion that there is no immediately apparent natural explanation for the rocks has lent credence to ADC's theory. NEED FOR OPEN MIND It appears like there is some kind of intelligent design in the structure's configuration and planning, ADC's Soviet-born Canadian ocean engineer, Paulina Zelitsky, said on the sidelines of the geophysical conference in Havana. I have worked in this field over 30 years and I have never before seen natural structures shaped with such intelligent symmetry and plan. From the very first moment, I was suspecting that these structures were not natural. While Iturralde gave evidence in his paper on Friday for seismic movement at the site, and possible submerging of the land, he drew short of definitively concluding the rocks were not shaped by nature. If, however, that theory was proven, it would revolutionize understanding of the history of the Americas, he told reporters. It would change a lot our knowledge of humans and the evolution of the Americas, Iturralde said. Recently, a French archaeologist found some evidence of people being here in South America 40,000 years ago, something we never expect, so you need to be always open to things that you are not expecting, that are not in the framework of present-day knowledge ... We may have found something that nobody has thought about. ADC plans to take a specially designed robot to the site in a few months to take samples of the rocks and the sediment they are embedded in to try to date them and seek signs they may have once been on dry land. They will also be searching for any sign of human life such as drawings, sculptures or artifacts. To drill samples from these structures is not easy because they look like granite. And to drill granite at a depth of 600 meters is very difficult, Zelitsky said. She said their discoveries could make history. I think we are talking about the origins of the American continent. There are many hypotheses about how the continent was colonized ... There is quite a controversy, and I think our discovery will be the first physical evidence of the true origins of developed civilization in the Americas. 18:12 03-29-02 Copyright 2002 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content, including by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. --- End of forwarded message --- In little more than a year we have gone from enjoying peace and the most prosperous economy in our history, to a nation plunged into war, recession and fear. This is a nation being transformed before our very eyes. http://www.truthout.com Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES
