[CTRL] Infuriating Story - Drug War Casualties
-Caveat Lector- Infuriating Story - Drug War Casualties This story made me so mad to think that an innocent person, much less anybody, was treated this way: Source: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,53470,00.html Samantha Monroe was 12 years old in 1981 when her parents enrolled her in the Sarasota, Fla., branch of Straight Inc., an aggressive drub rehab center for teens. Barely a teen, Samantha also had no history of drug abuse. But she spent the next two years of her life surviving Straight. She was beaten, starved and denied toilet privileges for days on end. She describes her "humble pants," a punishment that forced her to wear the same pants for six weeks at a time. Because she was allowed just one shower a week, the pants often filled with feces, urine and menstrual blood. Often she was confined to her closet for days. She gnawed through her jaw during those "timeout" sessions, hoping she'd bleed to death. She says that after she was raped by a male counselor, "the wonderful state of Florida paid for and forced me to have an abortion." There are hundreds of Straight stories like Samantha's. Wes Fager enrolled his son in a Springfield, Va., chapter of Straight on the advice of a high school guidance counselor. Fager didn't see his son again until three months later after he'd escaped and developed severe mental illness. Since then, Fager's set out to clear the air on Straight. He has accumulated stories like Samantha's and his son's on a clearinghouse Web site. They are stories of suicides and attempted suicides, rapes, forced abortions, molestations, physical abuse, lawsuits, court testimonies, and extensive documentation of profound psychological abuse at Straight chapters all over the country. Yet, the Straight model of drug treatment is thriving, with the trend toward "boot camp" style rehab centers growing more and more en vogue and Straight's founders, high-powered Republican boosters Mel and Betty Sembler, wielding enormous influence over U.S. drug policy. Mel Sembler is currently serving as President Bush's ambassador to Italy, and the Semblers serve on the boards of almost every major domestic anti-drug program. They are longtime close associates of the Bush family, and are behind efforts to defeat medicinal marijuana initiatives all over the country. Despite the horrors that have surfaced about Straight's history, they are proud and unrepentant about the program. With more and more U.S. states turning to mandatory treatment instead of incarceration for minor drug offenses with Mel and Betty Sembler continuing to flex political muscle in the power corridors of the drug war the story of Straight is one worth hearing. Straight was spun off of a rehab program called The Seed based on the "synanon" method of treatment. Established in 1972, the program lost its funding after a congressional investigation turned up evidence of brainwashing and cult-like mind control tactics. But a Florida congressman named Bill Young persisted. He found advocates in the Semblers and persuaded them to start a similar rehab center in St. Petersburg, which they called "Straight Incorporated." Despite allegations of abuse from escaped members and pending lawsuits, over the next 15 years Straight won laudatory praise in Republican circles. Luminaries from Nancy Reagan to Princess Diana visited Straight branches and touted their successes (though by most estimates only about 25 percent of Straight "clients" ever completed the program). But Straight's tactics soon caught up to it in the courts. A college student won a false imprisonment claim of $220,000 in 1983, and another claim cost Straight $721,000 in 1990. A Straight spin-off called Kids of North Jersey lost a $4.5 million claim in 2000. Straight chapters across the country began to shut down, culminating with the last branch in Atlanta closing in 1993. But the Straight philosophy was far from finished. Many chapters and directors reopened new clinics that employed the same tactics under different names such as KIDS, Growing Together and SAFE. Florida Gov. Jeb Bush visited and praised SAFE, despite the fact that a Miami television station reported widespread Straight-like abuse at the facility in a 2000 expose. Amidst mounting lawsuit losses and bad publicity throughout the 1990's, the umbrella organization Straight Inc. changed its name in 1996 to the Drug Free America Foundation. DFAF thrives today receiving $400,000 in federal subsidies in 2000 and $320,000 from the Small Business Administration. "It amazes me that despite the pattern of complaints and abuse allegations, Straight chapters can simply change their names and continue to operate," says Rick Ross, a cult expert and intervention specialist. Ross says there's an unfortunate market for "rehab" centers that take burdensome children off the hands of troubled parents. Most troubling, however, is the considerable and continuing political clout of Straight Inc.'s founders. For
[CTRL] Research and Drugs How Investigators are Influenced
-Caveat Lector- http://www.mercola.com/2000/may/21/research_and_drugs.htm Drug companies that pay for research and clinical tests of new medicines have been suppressing or manipulating the results. The prestigious, peer-reviewed Journal also warned the likelihood that drug test results will be manipulated or suppressed is even greater when for-profit companies set up specifically to test drugs conduct the trials. The findings and the drug studies, along with a sharply worded editorial where Dr. Marcia Angell raises the question "Is Academic Medicine For Sale?" appears one week after the Journal's publisher, the Massachusetts Medical Society, announced it would replace her as editor with a prominent asthma researcher who has strong ties to the drug industry. This report comes at a time when "academic medical centers are no longer the sole citadels of clinical research and the industry is wielding more power in conducting large-scale drug tests. Six of the 12 investigators interviewed cited cases of articles whose publication was stopped or whose content was altered by the funding company. The companies are not identified. In one instance, a drug maker delayed publication of a study's results by requesting changes to the manuscript to make the product look better. During the delay, the company secretly wrote a competing article on the same topic, which was favorable to the company's viewpoint. Another investigator found that a drug he was studying caused adverse reactions. He sent his manuscript to the sponsoring company for review. The company vowed never to fund his work again and published a competing article with scant mention of the adverse effects. The New England Journal of Medicine -- May 18, 2000 -- Vol. 342, No. 20 The following is the full article that appears in this week's New England Journal: Uneasy Alliance -- Clinical Investigators and the Pharmaceutical Industry Thomas Bodenheimer Clinical practice is changing rapidly. New cardiovascular drugs, antiinflammatory drugs, cancer chemotherapy, and other pharmacologic weapons are being added to physicians' therapeutic armamentarium virtually daily. Most clinical studies that bring new drugs from bench to bedside are financed by pharmaceutical companies. Many of these drug trials are rigorously designed, employing the skills of outstanding clinical researchers at leading academic institutions. But academic medical centers are no longer the sole citadels of clinical research. The past 10 years have seen the spectacular growth of a new research model. Commercially oriented networks of contract-research organizations (CROs) and site-management organizations (SMOs) have altered the drug-trial landscape, forcing academic medical centers to rethink their participation in industry-funded drug research. The infusion of industry dollars into an industry-investigator partnership has clearly improved clinical practice. Yet the medical literature contains many articles expressing concern about industrial funding of clinical research. Stelfox et al. found that authors whose work supported the safety of calcium-channel antagonists had a higher frequency of financial relationships with the drugs' manufacturers than authors whose work did not support the safety of these medications. (1) Davidson reported that results favoring a new therapy over a traditional one were more likely if the study was funded by the new therapy's manufacturer. (2) Cho and Bero demonstrated that articles from symposiums sponsored by a single drug company were more likely than articles without company support to have outcomes favorable to the sponsor's drugs. (3) Friedberg et al. reported that 5 percent of industry-sponsored pharmacoeconomic studies of cancer drugs reached unfavorable conclusions about the company's products, as compared with 38 percent of studies with nonprofit funding that reached similar conclusions. (4) How much influence does industry have over the work and products of the research community? Can practicing physicians trust the information they receive about the medications they are prescribing? Does the shift from the academic to the commercial research sector give industry too much control over clinical drug trials? In this report, I discuss some of the problems raised by pharmaceutical-industry funding of drug trials, problems that may deepen as trials are increasingly conducted by commercial organizations. I interviewed 39 participants in the process: 6 pharmaceutical executives, 12 clinical investigators, 9 people from university research offices, 2 physicians with CROs, 8 people who have studied the process of clinical drug trials, and 2 professional medical writers. Each interview consisted of standard questions plus an opportunity for the interviewees to discuss the industry-investigator relationship in a general way. Several interviewees preferred not to allow the use of their names in the article. The Clinical-Drug-Tria
Re: [CTRL] Soon to Be - No More Privacy in EU
-Caveat Lector- In news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, Jei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted on Fri, 17 May 2002 13:01:50 +0300: > SonicBlue said the court order "violates consumers' privacy rights, > including those guaranteed by the First and Fourth Amendments". And then we compromise to shoot a few more holes in those Amendments before they finally come crumbling down. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] L-Soft Problems?
-Caveat Lector- Recently all the messages I've been receiving on this list have been indented about five spaces. It's really annoying. Anybody know what's causing it? Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Apparently these rather dumb duplicates are going to continue
-Caveat Lector- Statistically, which CTRL has the highest traffic? I'm so sick and tired of these duplicate posts that I'm either dropping the Yahoo and Topica versions and sticking to the AOL Listserv version, or I'm leaving all three. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Laden looks haggard, at last!
-Caveat Lector- In news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did make a wise decision to post: > On 31 Dec 01, at 15:18, thew wrote: > > > no cocaine growing in that part of the world > > > > all that drop in cocaine prices came about with iran contra > > He was saying that CIA importing drugs was ok because pot prices were > low. Not as low as they would be under legalization. Under legalization, even being taxed, I imagine a quarter ounce of pot would sell for around $5.00. Right now it sells for anywhere from $25 to $75. Maybe even more in some areas. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Laden looks haggard, at last!
-Caveat Lector- In news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did make a wise decision to post: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 12/31/01 6:06:13 AM Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > I don't mind if the CIA sells me some budz, as long as they do it at a > > reasonable price and as long as they don't lace it with some uncool > > additives. > > Or sell it to you and ensure you're caught with it so you can spend 25 > years in prison providing cheap labor for multinational corporations all the > while being subjected to mind control or other experiments without your > consent? Okay, I hear ya. Yeah, that, too. They buy drugs, sell them, confiscate them along with dealer money and assets, sell them again, confiscate them again with even more dealer money and assets, sell them yet again, etc If there is a reason the USA goes to such ridiculous lengths to keep marijuana illegal, it has to be because they make so much money off civil asset forfeiture that making drugs legal would severely cut their funding, not because of taxpayer funding. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Laden looks haggard, at last!
-Caveat Lector- In news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did make a wise decision to post: > In March 2000 already, the weekly magazine Asia Week published in Hongkong > worried about the health of Ben Laden, giving a report on a serious physical > problem specifying that its days were in danger because of a "renal infection > which is propagated with the liver and requires specialized care". According > to authorized sources', Ben Laden would have been made deliver in his Afghan > den of Kandahar the whole of a mobile material of dialysis during the first > half of 2000. According to our sources, "displacement for health reasons of > Ben Laden" is not the first. Between 1996 and 1998, Oussama Ben Laden went > several times to Dubaï for its business. end quote > > So he probably really is in some palace in Saudi Arabia right now... All this could be a conspiracy being built. If they can't find Usama, they'll just pull out the old renal story and claim that he's dead, then just hope he doesn't pop up someplace. Then again, that would be foolish because if he does pop up somewhere, then the USA would look very foolish. Oh...they already look foolish. Oh well. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Laden looks haggard, at last!
-Caveat Lector- In news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did make a wise decision to post: > On 31 Dec 01, at 5:58, Damaeus wrote: > > > 2,500? The last number I heard was closer to 6,000. > > You have not been keeping up with the news. The current number is about > 2500, decreased due to many duplicate names and the fact that some of the > missing later were found alive. Well, you're correct. I haven't been keeping up with the news. I got so bored with hearing about the war effort that I just turned it off altogether. I figure that when they find Usama, I'll hear about it here. :-) Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Laden looks haggard, at last!
-Caveat Lector- In news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did make a wise decision to post: > On 31 Dec 01, at 6:04, Damaeus wrote: > > > I don't mind if the CIA sells me some budz, as long as they do it at a > > reasonable price and as long as they don't lace it with some uncool additives. > > Buds? What about cocaine? I'm not particularly interested in cocaine unless I get a sore throat. Lick some cocaine up and your whole mouth will go numb instantly. It would make a great throat lozenge. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Laden looks haggard, at last!
-Caveat Lector- On around Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:59:44 -0800, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted this message in news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl . . . > This is so very true, and belies the actual motive for the War in > Afghanistan, which is to pave the way for an oil pipeline to the > north, and to gain control of the drug trade for the benefit the CIA's > secret, self-funded budget. They don't call it 'The Enterprise' for > nothing. I don't mind if the CIA sells me some budz, as long as they do it at a reasonable price and as long as they don't lace it with some uncool additives. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Laden looks haggard, at last!
eks because it's been the same old stuff day after day and hour after hour. I've been watching prime time TechTV instead -- The Screen Savers, Big Thinkers, Silicon Spin, etc > If Osama bin Laden is looking haggard, that means he's scared - or > tired or eaten something that disagrees with him - but at least it > means he's not enjoying himself as he was in his previous video. He shouldn't be scared since he's going to a wonderous paradise when he diesthe same one Hitler went to when he died. > This is a considerable triumph for the US forces, for the brave bomber pilots > who release their bombs from such considerable and dangerous heights > above the ground, and for Tony Blair, who has so fearlessly led his entire > nation into the position of being terrorist targets for no good reason that any > of us can think of. So in other words, you're mad that you played a role in possibly saving the world from a fascist dictator, and you would have rather seen only Americans take on the task of protecting the rest of the world. Funny how so much of the world sees America as an imperial dictatorship, and when we try to eliminate a dangerous person, suddenly we're foolish. Believe me, I'm no friend of war, but I certainly don't want some asshole like bin Laden coming over here and telling me exactly how to live my life. We have enough of that going on in Amerika as it is. But as bad as Amerika is now, I'd rather live here the way it is now than to live here after someone like Usama bin Laden takes power. Hopefully if someone like bin Laden is ever elected president, one of those psychotic people in the counrtry will do us all a favor and assassinate him. > So keep up the good work, President Bush and Prime Minister Blair, let's > see if we can continue in this vein "Vein" . . . I can see us all doing the backstroke through some coronary artery. > and perhaps - at the cost of only another few billion dollars, a lot > more innocent lives, many more civil rights, and the stability of the > Middle East, India and Pakistan, and perhaps a Third World War, we > might even be able to make Osama bin Laden frown. Maybe we should stop all this and see what happens. Maybe we should all erect a giant statue of bin Laden's phallus and let it flow with a fountain of Karo corn syrup as we bow and worship it. Then we could hand him the seat to be the King of Earth and we can all reward him for what he did. I'm certain he would be quite good at running the planet the way he said he wanted to run it. No movies, no amusement parks. Women are backslapped until their heads spin like tops just because a lock of hair falls out of place. Yeah... He's my kinda guy. Usama bin Laden: You're my hero, my inspiration and my God. I worship you forever and always, Amen. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals help syphilis comeback/stuns officials
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:13:52 -0500, in news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, THe eXTReMiST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted: > Wrong, my exact quote was: > "Popular paganism and modern "churchianity" are just different flavors > of the same product. And history shows a direct correlation between > paganism and the fall of nations. As a nation becomes paganized, it > becomes more corrupt, the people become more decadent and unjust, and > ends up destroying itself from the inside and then gobbled up by it's > enemies. Can't think of one exception. And the unseen powers that be > ( the illuminati, international bankers, etc.), love both > "churchianity" and pagans, because they are easy to herd and control > through lies." > > Now that's the third time you have missed the point. > I may be an idiot but you're dense as a rock. I can see you learned nothing from my earlier post in this thread. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals help syphilis comeback/stuns officials
public mind that was already morally unprincipled, Romans 3:10 through 12: ROMANS 3 - [10] As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: [11] There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. [12] They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. So God wasn't giving "straight people" permission to judge. God was simply noticing what was true and accepting it--accepting the fact that the world consists of all the types of people described in verses 29 through 32: Romans 1:29-32 - [29] Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, [30] Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, [31] Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: [32] Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. And Romans goes on to say: Romans 2 - [1] Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. [2] But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. [3] And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? So a man who is gay is judged by a murderer, who is judged by a backbiter, who is judged by a boaster, who is judged by the unmerciful, who is judged by a hater of God, who is judged by a gossiper, who is judged by the haughty, who is judged by the deceitful. Is any one person better than the other? Does any one have the right to judge another when we're all part of the same reprobate mind? I can answer that one by requoting something from above: ROMANS 3 - [10] As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: [11] There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. [12] They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals help syphilis comeback/stuns officials
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:33:36 EST, in internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl you wrote: > In a message dated 11/29/01 6:21:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Very well put!!! They want to enjoy watching fags burn in hell. >> > > You are, of course aware that the term faggot referred to gays in the middle > ages who were tied up and placed at the base of the stake when someone was > burned at the stake? This was done for two reasons, one to slow the fire so > that the person being burned at the stake would get the full treatment, and > two, to get rid of the gay person. Sheesh... I'm glad I wasn't alive in the middle ages! Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals help syphilis comeback/stuns officials
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:56:37 EST, in internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl you wrote: > In a message dated 11/28/01 4:32:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Funny how people who are not in heaven are so confident in their > > judgment of other people who are also not in heaven. > > Could it be that we are confusing wishful thinking with condemnation? THEY > say they are consigning people to the eternal flames, but it reality, it is > just wishful thinking. Very well put!!! They want to enjoy watching fags burn in hell. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals help syphilis comeback/stuns officials
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:17:53 -0800, in internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl you wrote: > image Funny how people who are not in heaven are so confident in their judgment of other people who are also not in heaven. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Large attachments -- PLEASE READ was I pledge Allegiance
-Caveat Lector- Tenorlove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:16:56 -0800 in news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, which said: > What I highly recommend, folks, is that if you have a large attachment, > say over 150-200K, that you would like to share with the list, send a > brief note and just include the link, if it's on the Web, or a request > for people to email you off list for the attachment, if it's on your > hard drive. Not everyone has unlimited mail storage space. Well, compression is always a nice thing. Given the time duration of the file and the wonderful MPEG format, that file probably could have been reduced to about 350k or less. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I pledge Allegiance
-Caveat Lector- Bill Richer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:55:12 EST in news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, which said: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 11/21/01 2:46:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > Did you hear the WAV file? It's nothing but static. That's why it's > > garbage. > > There's nothing to hear but static. I'm so glad you're so easily > > entertained. > > > > Damaeus > > > > PS - Learn to spell my name. > If its static all you have to do if you want the file is write directly to me > and I can send it direct. For some reason, files don;t seem to go through > list very well! Okay, that's fine. BTW, I don't know why I've been such a prick lately. Forgive me all. :-( Don't males have periods, too? Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I pledge Allegiance
-Caveat Lector- Saba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 20 Nov 2001 19:41:47 -0500 in news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, which said: > This was a beautiful story Bill Richer; and for this Dameas to call it > garbage - well that little creep is the biggest piece of crap to come > down the pike since Jane Fonda. Did you hear the WAV file? It's nothing but static. That's why it's garbage. There's nothing to hear but static. I'm so glad you're so easily entertained. Damaeus PS - Learn to spell my name. http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] I pledge Allegiance
-Caveat Lector- Bill Richer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:53:08 EST in news:internal.mailing-list.independent.ctrl, which said: > (Also attached to this email is a wav (sound file) by Red Skelton about the > Pledge of Allegiance) Did you bother listening to this garbage before you sent it? It's nothing but static. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Albertson's has started a card program:
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:00:58 EST, Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > From: Katherine Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I am unhappy to report that Albertson's has introduced a loyalty card > in its Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas region. This is the worst news we > have had in the two years since CASPIAN was formed. If Albertson's > falls the game is over. And we will have lost. Surely the card is not required. Tom Thumb has a card system, but they are not required to shop there. You simply get more "sale items" than people who do not have the card. > Albertson's owns stores in 36 states and had sales of over $37 billion > last year. > > The top ten grocery chains now stack up as follows: > > 1. Kroger (card)..3127 stores > 2. Albertson's (???).2514 stores > 3. Safeway (card)...1689 stores > 4. Ahold (card)1229 stores > 5. Costco (card)335 stores > 6. WalMart (no card).953 stores Wal-Mart opened its 1,000th supercenter in August of 2001, not counting their ~1,700 regular Wal-Mart stores. Counting the Sam's, Wal-Mart, Supercenters, and Neighborhood Markets, they have 3,500 locations in the United States alone. Add the 1,000 international locations and that brings them up to 4,500 locations and over one million employees. They do 191 billion per year in sales. They're planning to open another 180-185 supercenters in 2003, plus more Sam's and regular Wal-Marts. [...] > Current Dallas/Ft. Worth consumer research revealed two out of three > Albertson's primary shoppers would spend more on groceries if a > savings card were available. Additionally, more than sixty percent of > top competitors' primary shoppers who do not currently shop at > Albertson's said they would if the Company offered a savings card. [...] > Applications for the free card were mailed to thousands of customers and > are available this week at all Dallas/Ft. Worth Albertson's stores. [...] I saw absolutely nothing in the article saying that a loyalty card was required. So don't get the card and you will have nothing to worry about. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Albertson's has started a card program:
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:00:58 EST, Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > From: Katherine Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I am unhappy to report that Albertson's has introduced a loyalty card > in its Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas region. This is the worst news we > have had in the two years since CASPIAN was formed. If Albertson's > falls the game is over. And we will have lost. Surely the card is not required. Tom Thumb has a card system, but they are not required to shop there. You simply get more "sale items" than people who do not have the card. > Albertson's owns stores in 36 states and had sales of over $37 billion > last year. > > The top ten grocery chains now stack up as follows: > > 1. Kroger (card)..3127 stores > 2. Albertson's (???).2514 stores > 3. Safeway (card)...1689 stores > 4. Ahold (card)1229 stores > 5. Costco (card)335 stores > 6. WalMart (no card).953 stores Wal-Mart opened its 1,000th supercenter in August of 2001, not counting their ~1,700 regular Wal-Mart stores. Counting the Sam's, Wal-Mart, Supercenters, and Neighborhood Markets, they have 3,500 locations in the United States alone. Add the 1,000 international locations and that brings them up to 4,500 locations and over one million employees. They do 191 billion per year in sales. They're planning to open another 180-185 supercenters in 2003, plus more Sam's and regular Wal-Marts. [...] > Current Dallas/Ft. Worth consumer research revealed two out of three > Albertson's primary shoppers would spend more on groceries if a > savings card were available. Additionally, more than sixty percent of > top competitors' primary shoppers who do not currently shop at > Albertson's said they would if the Company offered a savings card. [...] > Applications for the free card were mailed to thousands of customers and > are available this week at all Dallas/Ft. Worth Albertson's stores. [...] I saw absolutely nothing in the article saying that a loyalty card was required. So don't get the card and you will have nothing to worry about. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Disgusting TV Ad Glorifying the Almighty Dollar
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:44:16 EST, Bill Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 10/28/01 10:35:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Oh, also the costs of imprisoning > all the drug users costs 7 times more than just making enough treatment > programs available, yet no one seems to complain about the costs of > throwing them in the slammer. >> > > The healthy ones could be rented to drug companies for use as lab people thus > reducing the cost of keeping them in the slammer. So people who decide to use various drugs and herbs recreationally are somehow subhuman? I hope you apply the same criteria to alcohol and tobacco. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Disgusting TV Ad Glorifying the Almighty Dollar
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 27 Oct 2001 16:03:36 EDT, Bill Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 10/27/01 8:57:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << But aside from all that, recreational drugs are > illegal everywhere, prostitution is illegal almost everywhere, >> > > I don't care if you want to get drugged up, prosititue yourself and have > people take pictures of the act. What I do care about is you getting drugged > up and going out in pulic and hurting someone by driving or doing some other > act. And I do care about you getting drugged up and hurting yourself to the > point where you need mecical care, and then you want me to pay for it! I would assume the same goes for drinking & driving and eating and driving. Yeah, people have had wrecks with half a Big Mac in their hand with the rest stuffed into their faces. Oh, also the costs of imprisoning all the drug users costs 7 times more than just making enough treatment programs available, yet no one seems to complain about the costs of throwing them in the slammer. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Disgusting TV Ad Glorifying the Almighty Dollar
-Caveat Lector- On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:58:46 EDT, Bill Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 10/25/01 3:55:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Anybody seen the NYSE ad on Fox News Channel lately that glorifies money? > >> > > Damaeus, there is only one thing that money can't buy: Poverty Basically the point I'm making is that, as I suspected, the kind of freedom Amerika offers is freedom of "free enterprise", at least until you're so successful that you have a monopoly. But even though a monopoly isn't illegal, the FTC sure does nitpick at companies who have a significant market share. But aside from all that, recreational drugs are illegal everywhere, prostitution is illegal almost everywhere, and hardcore porno is illegal in certain communities around the country, even when viewed in the privacy of your own home. What kind of freedom are we defending when we go to war? Certainly the freedom we have now is better than what Usama bin Laden's vision of a perfect world. But my gosh... 1.6 million drug arrests? National law enforcement budgets are $130 billion per year. $60 billion goes toward the drug war. Office of National Drug Control Policy gets 19.5 billion per year. That's 79.5 billion per year for the drug war. With 1.6 million arrests, that's $49,687 per arrest. Seems like a waste to me, not to mention the fact that even more than that is probably going to the terrorists. The costs would be dropped so much by ending prohibition and diverting the money to "legitimate" companies. Yeah, it's still blatant capitalism, but at least the burden on the tax payer is lessened drastically. I mean, imagine what kinds of advances we could make if all the money spent on fighting drugs and Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Disgusting TV Ad Glorifying the Almighty Dollar
-Caveat Lector- Anybody seen the NYSE ad on Fox News Channel lately that glorifies money? This is a disgusting ad. It actually glorifies the almighty dollar. I think the ad is one step away from ending with a glowing, golden $ right in the middle of the screen with a light from Heaven shining on it. I'm not saying that ALL Americans worship money, but this ad sure does try to draw up love for it. Have a looksie. It's been playing on Fox News Channel. If anybody's interested, do have another MPEG file with a higher quality sound and video, but it has the same physical dimensions. If you want to see it, I uploaded (or actually am now uploading) it to usenet in these two newsgroups: news:alt.binaries.sounds.tv news:alt.binaries.sounds.tv-commercials Look for the subject header that reads: > TVAD_Let-Freedom-Ring-LQ.mpg - Disgusting Commercial Proving that America's God is >TVAD_Let-Freedom-Ring-LQ.mpg Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Miss Afghanistan
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 15:34:52 -0400, Saba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > Dameaus? Is that you Involuntary? Yeah. > Now you are too young to be engaging in this type of conduct. > > Shame on you - too much Playboy Magazine and wait until your mother gets > home. Heh... And my mother would scold me if she knew, even at my age. :-D Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Miss Afghanistan
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 00:25:11 -0400, RevCOAL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > I didn't see the picture, but if you feel that a woman needs to shave under > her arms to be beautiful, I suggest you take a stroll along the French > Riviera, where you will find any number of beautiful women who don't shave > their legs or their armpits... > > Your juvenile chauvinism would perhaps be better served on another type of > list than one devoted to conspiracy research... Well, you've just played the part of judge, jury and executioner without even giving me a chance to defend myself. The picture was a parody and the woman pictured had "shag" hair and lots of it. I've known females from France and Spain and I was not bothered by their hairy legs. But if I found something like what was pictured coming after me in heat, I would RUN like hell. But then I'm gay, so I have the right. And besides it was supposed to be comic relief. And no, I'm not planning on censoring myself for the benefit of those who might be offended. I think that's like ONE humor post I've made to this list in probably three years or more of being on this list (under various user names). I think the government is doing enough censoring to cover my part. Renaming the war from Infinite Justice to whatever it's called this week just because Muslims think that only Allah can deliver infinite justice? Jeez The way I see it, if I have a problem with something, it's my responsibility to change the way I see things instead of trying to force the rest of the world to conform to my ideas about decency. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Miss Afghanistan
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:47:13 -0400, foxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <01f001c1598f$47009360$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > I think women everywhere would resent your hatred of females. Where did you get the idea that I hate females? > I am no exception. There is no need for you to do this. It is > not funny to half of the people in the world. Well, you can say it's not funny to you, and I can accept that. But I don't think you can accurately judge what's funny to others from your little chair. > Actually it's not even that clever. It is if you live in a country where women normally shave their pits. > Shame on you. Pity on your wife and children. I don't have a wife or children. I'm too young. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Miss Afghanistan
Miss Afghanistan <>
[CTRL] "Fascinating," said Mr. Spock.
-Caveat Lector- Starting at 6, count up through the alphabet with increments of 6, as follows: A 6 B12 C18 D24 E30 F36 G42 H48 I54 J60 K66 L72 M78 N84 O90 P96 Q 102 R 108 S 114 T 120 U 126 V 132 W 138 X 144 Y 150 Z 156 = Now take the following phrases and cross-reference them to the appropriate number. After you have all the numbers for each phrase, add them up: 1. "SON OF SIN" S 114 O90 N84 O90 F36 S 114 I54 + N84 --- 666 2. "SATANIC KILL" S 114 A 6 T 120 A 6 N84 I54 C18 K66 I54 L72 + L72 --- 666 3. "NEW YORK" N84 E30 W 138 Y 150 O90 R 108 + K66 --- 666 Heh... -- .. | AIM:Damaeus |Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cool New TV Show Coming Sunday, October 7, 2001 on The Learning Channel
-Caveat Lector- This is a new mini-series I've never seen listed before. All three shows air on the same night: Sunday, October 7, 2001: 7:00pm The Learning Channel - Hyperspace: Life How the solar system was created, how the sun will expand with age and the successes planet hunters have had in finding new planets. 8:00pm The Learning Channel - Hyperspace: Survival What could happen if a black hole, which has the potential to destroy everything in its path, sets a collision course with Earth. 9:00pm The Learning Channel - Hyperspace: Destiny A possible escape route that stretches into deep space which could be used if the Earth, the sun and the solar system vanished. -- .. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] No Regrets About Developing PGP
eceived hundreds of supportive emails, flooding in at two or three per minute on the day of the article. I have always enjoyed good relations with the press over the past decade, especially with the Washington Post. I'm sure they will get it right next time. The article in question appears at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1234-2001Sep20.html -Philip Zimmermann 24 September 2001 (This letter may be widely circulated) - End forwarded message - -- .----. | AIM:Damaeus |Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] IS THIS PICTURE FOR REAL?
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 25 Sep 2001 19:28:28 EDT, William Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > It's fake and its pretty funny in a slightly warped way... Pretty obvious, too, since, if I recall correctly, both planes were tilted when they struck the towers. Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Statue of Liberty Speaks
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:00:02 EDT, Bill Richer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > > [Unable to display image] Both of the images were screwed up. And try compressing them to JPEG so the files won't be so large. Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus |Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Woe to Ariel?
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 13:43:30 +, Jacob Sabat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > -Caveat Lector- > > What area do you in? ??? > >From: Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >What difference would it have made? If someone had predicted this before > >it happened, people would call him a complete nut. If it actually > >happened, they would have called him a conspirator and turned him in to > >the FBI. Prophets can't win. It's the nature of the job. Prophets > >throughout history have been hunted, tortured and crucified. -- .--------. | AIM:Damaeus |Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Slovakia Opens Airspace to American Warplanes
-Caveat Lector- Slovakia has opened their airspace to American warplanes, but they're so far from Afghanistan that it makes me wonder why they've done this. If Russia has allowed use of their airspace, having Slovakia seems sort of odd. Any terrorists around Slovakia? Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Woe to Ariel?
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:16:37 -0700, The Public Image <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > Saba wrote: > > > You do not like my stuff do not read it and I am sick of your > > crap. I know what you are...maybe not who, but what. > > firstly, i don't post things on this list often enough for you to > be sick of my crap. i only toss in my two cents when i think > i've got something of value to add. perhaps you might follow my > example. and frankly, i ignore very nearly everything you post, > but your stupid bible code bit tonite was downright offensive. > if you can predict major events with such accuracy, why weren't > you talking about this shit yesterday, or the day before that? What difference would it have made? If someone had predicted this before it happened, people would call him a complete nut. If it actually happened, they would have called him a conspirator and turned him in to the FBI. Prophets can't win. It's the nature of the job. Prophets throughout history have been hunted, tortured and crucified. Damaeus -- .----. | AIM:Damaeus |Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Saddam Hussein Sounds Off
-Caveat Lector- Have you heard the latest comments from Saddam Hussein? He says he's disappointed in the rescue workers at the World Trade Center. He says that Iraqi workers would have been able to find more survivors in the rubble. Now ain't that somethin'? Has somebody on this group been jerkin' his chain? Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Barbara Olson
-Caveat Lector- I just found this out. Barbara Olson has been mentioned many times as a lady who regularly appeared on the Fox News Channel. She was on one of the four planes that crashed. I don't remember which one. Anyway, supposedly Barbara was on C-SPAN the Sunday morning before the WTC incident and a lady called up, told her she was filled with evil and would soon die. I dunno if this story is actually true or not, but I see no reason for anyone to make up something like that. Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WHAT WILL THIS WAR BE CALLED?
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 15 Sep 2001 22:19:03 -0700, Nakano Nakamura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > -Caveat Lector- > > The U.S. Government lied to the American People about > the following events. Each of these incidents led the > United States into War. > > 1898..THEY LIED about the sinking of the battleship > Maine. (Spanish American War) > 1915..THEY LIED about the sinking of the ocean liner > Lusitania (World War I) > 1941..THEY LIED about the attack on Pearl Harbor. > (World War 2) What was the lie about Pearl Harbor? > 1964..THEY LIED about the Gulf of Tonkin affair. > (Vietnam War) > 2001..THEY are now telling us the truth about the > attacks in the U.S. last Tuesday Sept. 11th? > > QUESTION: WHAT WILL THIS WAR BE CALLED? -- .----. | AIM:Damaeus |Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WTC - Microsoft codes
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:31:20 -0400, RevCOAL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > If you do "WTC" in Wingdings, you get a celtic cross, a snowflake, and > the 'thumbs up' sign...I'll leave the interpretation of THAT to each > person's imagination... Then I guess Pat Robertson was right. God meant for it to happen. Damaeus -- .----. | AIM:Damaeus |Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WTC - Microsoft codes
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:01:34 -0700, Tenorlove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > Yep. Enlarge the fonts to 72 pt. they are much easier to read. You know, believe it or not, I posted this to one of my favorite newsgroups I've participated in for at least three years and the dozen or dozen and a half people who responded, except for one, laughed me out of the newsgroup saying that people could find anything they want in any event, including this font trick, just like faces in clouds. Good lord. Some things are just too obvious to have happened by chance. I mean, we're talking about a skull which appeared in a cloud, and I'm not talking about the kind of thing you see in the clouds, like Snoopy riding a hot dog. I'm talking about a small skull that actually looks like a skull, not to mention what some have called "the face of Satan" in another billow of smoke. Dr. Tom van Flandern, Astronomer/Editor of the Meta Research Bulletin, said in reference to the face on Mars that the chances have all of the facial features in the Mars formation appear by accident is 100 quadrillion to one. Seems like the same odds would apply to a puff of smoke. 100 quadrillion to one does not make it impossible, but so unlikely as to make it absurd to think it was an accident, especially when it happens twice in one day. I just think some people are probably too terrified by what's going, not only with the WTC event, but with skulls and satan-heads in clouds, this font trick, the CD from The Coup with the WTC explosion, months before it happened, and the TV series "Lone Gunmen". I think people are shitting themselves, but they're too macho to admit it. I find that more likely for that to be true than to simply think all these things happened by accident. One or two events I could call a coincidence, but this is too much. I can't say it was a deliberate action, but it could have been people doing things that were prophetic, even though they didn't realize it themselves. Damaeus -- .----. | AIM:Damaeus |Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WTC - Microsoft codes
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:35:36 -0300, Fernando Sobral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > -Caveat Lector- > > Write NYC in MS-Word and change its font to wingdings. What about that thumb up? Try it with the Webdings font. Just as strange, but a little more positive. Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] WTC - Microsoft codes
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:35:36 -0300, Fernando Sobral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > Write NYC in MS-Word and change its font to wingdings. What about that thumb up? Holy Crap!!! Now that is just too freakin' much!!! Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A much larger flag...
-Caveat Lector- Someone requested a larger flag, so I made a much larger one that would be suitable for any screen resolution. This flag is 2000x1040 and is a 35k GIF download and very crisp and bright. It also has more blue around the borders of the stars to make it more "real". http://home.earthlink.net/~tribalzidane/images/AmericanFlagLarge.gif Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] For Your Websites - American Flag
-Caveat Lector- Graphic I threw together. I hope its proportions are correct, or at least respectable. Both are the same. GIF and PNG formats. I provide these, hoping you will understand that I really wish we had an Earth flag to fly instead of just an American or British or Pakistani or Afghani flag. Resize as needed. I recommend retaining the GIF or PNG formats as JPEG will make them look like crap. http://home.earthlink.net/~tribalzidane/images/AmericanFlag.gif http://home.earthlink.net/~tribalzidane/images/AmericanFlag.png Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus |Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] CONTINUUM: RE: PERSPECTIVE
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:46:00 -0700, "Lancaster, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <6F42D9CD28D2D31199C300508B939AE8E6A59A@WA-EXPO1>, which said: > And then I click over to the BBC, the only "world" TV channel I can think > of, and glimpse a scene that brings more gasps than any concrete demolition. > A video of people dancing in the streets, in Palestine. Palestinian people > holding up their fingers up in a "V" for victory symbol. Take that, damn > Yankees, they seem to say, you've got your comeuppance. > > How many of my American friends got to see that on live TV? They showed the dancing on Fox News Channel. -- .--------. | AIM:Damaeus |Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Who is bombing Kabul?
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:09:28 EDT, Bill Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > CNN is reporting live that cruse missiles are incoming at Kabul? This is > faster response that I antisipated. Russia is on alert and Putin has expressed his support for the USA. The attack could be from Russia, but I've heard nothing on the news proclaiming that this is so. Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus |Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Crash at the Pentagon
-Caveat Lector- I find it interesting that the plane crashed right at the HELipad. HELLipad? I wonder if it was a message that either (a) they say America is going to Hell, or (b) they think America is Hell. They do think America is The Great Satan. Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus |Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Fall of the World Trade Center
-Caveat Lector- Watch the fall of the buildings carefully. It looks like it's exploding from the top down. It looks very similar to how it looks when buildings are demolished. I think it's likely the top half of the building could have been rigged with explosives. Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | ICQ:18405845 |New Age, Conspiracy, UFO, Alien TV Listings | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | http://www.web-recon.com | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Television of Interest... I stuck it on the web
-Caveat Lector- Okay, I'm trying something new here. You may remember that I used to occassionally post TV listings to this mailing list. Well, I decided to try simply sticking them up on the web. I only have two days done so far, September 2 and September 3, and I'm only putting up listings for programs that start from 5pm to programs that start in the 11pm hour. This is because I'm actually typing these listings manually and to try to cover the whole 24 hours each day would leave me barely able to do anything else in life. Besides, most of the best programming comes on during the Prime Time hours. The channels I'll be monitoring for programming are listed here: http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv/channels.html Of course, I won't be listing every single thing on these channels, just stuff relating to our changing world, conspiracies, space exploration, aliens, UFO's and various historical topics including Atlantis, Lemuria and mythology. These listings are meant to be used as a guide to what's coming on. Please check your own program guide for a complete listing because I'm a human prone to mistakes like everyone else and I might actually miss something, or my source for program listings might be inaccurate. The TV listings can be accessed by either going to the main page at http://www.web-recon.com and clicking on TV Listings under "Continuum and Beyond" on the left side of the page, or you can access the index directly by going here: http://www.web-recon.com/continuum/tv/index.html I got a lot of positive feedback when I was sending these listings out via e-mail, but by the time I tried to put together a whole week's worth of listings, my hair was hanging in a heap around my face and I looked like I'd been in a turkey bake-off. Maybe this way I can do one day at a time and keep things up to date on the web. Right now I'm working on getting the week caught up so I can stay about 5-6 days ahead of things. I'm planning to keep archives of the listings so if you ever remember seeing a program you saw listed before, you might be able to find it in the archives. Right now there's no search engine because that's beyond my technical knowledge at this point. I'll work on it in the future because I think that would make it a nice addition to having an archive. Well, that's it. I hope you like it. Damaeus -- .--------. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>| | ICQ:18405845 | Loosen Up! | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | Continuum and Beyond | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NYT: As Cable Applies Pressure, Network TV Spouts Expletives
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 1 Sep 2001 23:43:35 -0700, Steve Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > The give-and-take between censors and producers is a time-honored > ritual in broadcast television, and standards have eased > gradually over the decades. But the struggles behind the scenes > are growing more strident and more complicated making some > people wonder where the boundaries of taste will settle in the > next few years. I think having a free for all with language on TV would be a good thing. I think it would open people's minds more. I mean, how bad is it when an old woman hears you say, "dang" and she nearly hyperventilates and falls on the floor. I think it's time to bring this "fucking" profanity problem to an end. There's absolutely nothing wrong with any of those words. It's just that people feel the need to set aside a few words and call them dirty just in case they one day need to really vent their anger, then others will know that when they hear the word "fuck" that the person is really pissed off and should be left alone. > So network censors are becoming more lenient. Last television > season, CBS allowed the use of the commonly used word for dung in > a live production of "On Golden Pond" and received no major > protest. David Letterman did a spot on that fact. He went on and on about how a 13-year-old punk kid can say "bullshit" on prime time TV, so he felt he should be able to say it, too. CBS said, "No no Dave!" And they went on about the fact that since On Golden Pond was a play, then such language was allowed because it was art. Dave was disappointed that he, a mature adult in a suit, cannot say "bullshit" on TV. > An entire episode of "The Job," on ABC, revolved around the > joyous visits by the main characters, police officers, to a > massage parlor that offered a particular sort of sexual favor. I think that's refreshing, too. I find it horribly distasteful that movies can glorify violence, but shame sexual ecstasy. > "What's really happening now is a transformation to the daily normalization of > this," said Robert Thompson, professor of media and pop culture at > Syracuse University. "It's commonplace to hear erection jokes on `Friends' at > 8 o'clock; even gentle little programs like `Everybody Loves Raymond' have > the kind of stuff that, when it played on `Three's Company' 20 years ago, > made the PTA go completely ballistic." And yet Three's Company was one of the most popular sitcoms of its time and it now the most popular show on Nick-at-Nite. Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>| | ICQ:18405845 | Loosen Up! | |---'. http://www.web-recon.com | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | Continuum and Beyond | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] SETI Comments on Arecibo Glyph
cibo message. Another weak argument. They are assuming, and predictably so, that we have ALL the answers to the mysteries of the universe right here on Earth, so if "we know" that something is impossible, then it is impossible. I'm sorry, but the universe is a very old place and the Earth is fairly young in comparison to it all. It's highly likely that life has evolved somewhere else in the universe millions of years before Earth was even around. Naturally these beings, with all their extra experience in the universe, would know things about the universe and technology that we do not yet know. Evidence? We're bursting at the seams with theories and speculations, but still there are many mysteries we have yet to solve. How long will it take us to solve them? How much longer have aliens been around than us? They could well have the technology to actually SEE radio transmissions moving through space. They could then move to intercept the transmission. Even that is crude. They could have the technology to extend a field of some sort to read the information. And going back to seeing the radio transmission moving through space, how do we know they don't have a space station positioned 26 light years away--something so small that Hubble cannot detect it? They may have figured out how to travel faster than light, so even if they missed the transmission when it flew by, they could chase it down and get into position to receive it. I understand that these people want to be scientific, but when we look at what happens and apply our own primitive science to it, then what we're saying is that our own physics says it is impossible, so it is impossible. It doesn't mean it's TRULY impossible. It simply means we don't know how it could be done. > The biochemistry information in the crop circle is the same as the Arecibo > message, although the DNA seems to have an extra strand and a somewhat > different number of nucleotides. It has also been suggested that silicon is > now part of the biological construction kit, although this element, while > popular in science fiction, is rather poor at making the complex molecules > required for life. Still, it's remarkable how similar the aliens' biology > is to ours, even to the point of sporting a helical DNA molecule. The same > is true for the sugars and bases that make up human DNA, and it's remarkable > (but undoubtedly a sign of a boo-boo on the crop circle's constructor's > part) that the silicon mentioned above doesn't figure into the formulae of > any of these alien DNA components. Keep in mind that of the hundreds of > possible amino acids, only 20 are used for earthly life. Our biochemistry > is somewhat specific. How curious (and unlikely!) that theirs would match > ours so closely! Redundant. It goes back to what I suggested above. The reason we have similar biochemistry is because they may have had something to do with our evolution. > Finally, the whole matter of crop circles fails the baloney test, as Sagan > would put it. They can be easily (and quickly) made by people interested in > creating a stir, and there is never any convincing physical evidence that > anyone else has made them. You might also wonder why, despite its ample > supply of wheat fields, the U.S. is almost never the target of this type of > alien graphic: nearly two-thirds of all crop circles are in England United Nations. Aliens would want to talk to us as a planet. They would not, I don't believe, favor one nation over another one. > (only one major one has appeared in the U.S. We also note that Chilbolton > was the location of other crop circles in 1999 and 2000.) Why would aliens > resort to a signaling system that conveys so little information (as above) > and can only be used during the growing season! > > Bottom line? The crop circles are decorative, but not informative. We can > expect better from true extraterrestrial intelligence. Which is exactly why aliens don't go through SETI. They want their messages found and seen by everyone NOW, not filtered through bureaucracies. Do they honestly think that aliens are as clueless as we are? It's likely that these beings have done this thousands of times before so they know what works and what doesn't. Damaeus -- .. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>| | ICQ:18405845 | Loosen Up! | |---'. | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ===
[CTRL] Dutch Scientists to Try to Create Crop Circles Using Plasmas
-Caveat Lector- Dutch Scientists to Try to Create Crop Circles Using Plasmas Every year in The Netherlands 20 to100 crop circles mysteriously appear in wheat fields. They remain a mystery, but new research, reported in the scientific journal Physiologia Plantarum, may help clear up their origins. Dr. Eltjo Haselhoff is the author of the article. Hes a physicist and also a member of the Dutch Center for Crop Circle Studies Full Story http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=729 -- .. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>| | ICQ:18405845 | Loosen Up! | |---'. | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Emotions, DNA and Psychedelic Herbs
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:56:02 EDT, "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > Damaeus, > > First, thank you for breathing, and for thinkling out loud on this forum. > Secondly, the people you ask about do not want benefit. That would be > healthy and they do not want a thing to do with emotional, spiritual or > genetic health. Why? I'm not sure, except that healthiness has nothing in > common with control, which they need. It all has to do with fear, and with > them being either very young souls or very old (but sickly) souls. They may be neither young nor old souls -- just patient souls who are allowing confused brains to do what they wish. I think that's why some form of "alien contact" may be a necessary component to ensure the survival of mankind. If left to our own devices, I think we would always have these confused, power-hungry souls who either do the wrong things for the right reasons, or the wrong things for the selfish reasons. Eventually I think things like alien sightings, crop circles, and close encounters can get the attention of even the most dispicable hard-head. Therefore, that's why I think certain physical events are necessary for our collective ascension. Damaeus -- .----. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>| | ICQ:18405845 | Loosen Up! | |---'. | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Emotions, DNA and Psychedelic Herbs
-Caveat Lector- A recent guest on Art Bell mentioned that ones emotions caused their DNA to change -- that the decisions a person makes in life and the resulting experiences actually affects how their DNA is going to develop. I believe this was the 8/24/2001 program with Gregg Braden and this topic was being discussed when Art was talking about modulated and unmodulated sound and gave us a dose of radio silence to exemplify this. Our choice and experiences influence which components of our DNA are goign to activate and which ones are going to remain "silent". It just hit me here as I hit a bowl of Salvia Divinorum. If experiences can cause your DNA to change, and since your mind perceives everything as real, (even if you decide that it's your imagination playing tricks on you, that experience of realization that it was a trick of the imagination is real) then these trippy experiences we have on psychedelic drugs would also affect our DNA, would it not? I tell you that many of the spiritual and eternal things I have "philosophized" about before I ever tried drugs I found to be true after the fact. Certainly one cannot see any outward evidence that my DNA has been changed, but who says that all DNA has to do with appearance or even health? If we are both body and soul or body and spirit, then naturally our DNA would be connected to the soul. The development of our DNA might actually affect what kind of relationship we will have with our connection to the universe -- our soul. A psychedelic experience, which to many is an exeperiencing of the solving of the mysteries of the universe, may actually change our DNA in such a way to make us more open to an experience of a future metamorphosis, ascension or a larger conduit to universal understanding or what have you. So what does this mean? It just throws another plus in my hat. If the government knows about the research Gregg Braden mentioned -- this proven research with experiments which have been repeated -- and who knows how long this research has been around -- then if the government has so far refused to seriously consider the existence of other races of beings in the universe, and since they seem to be ignoring these recent formations in England, and if they feel that drug use will affect our DNA in such a way as to make us more open to these energies that exist all around us, then apparently they do not want us to know or understand. If that is the case, then what is their plan? Why do they want to keep the masses ignorant when they themselves could benefit greatly from a more open relationship with the universe and its other inhabitants? Damaeus -- .----. | AIM:Damaeus | Damaeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>| | ICQ:18405845 | Loosen Up! | |---'. | | YahooMessenger:Damaeus | | ''---' http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No...
-Caveat Lector- On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:57:23 -0500, Marilyn Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > Moreover, I have also noticed in just the past month that the six > o'clock news is punctuated with advertisements for "Songs of > Worship"--CDs that center on hymns and songs of Christian > worship. I have no objection whatsoever to these ads in and of > themselves and have seen them often on late nite time slots but > find it disturbing to see them mixed in the with daily news. > This is upstate NY and I am wondering if the ads are playing on > the six o'clock news in the cities, too. I wonder how long it's going to be before they put Jesus on a Wheaties box. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israeli right wing DEMANDS no compromise with thePalestinians!!!!!!
-Caveat Lector- On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:36:58 -0500, Nurev Ind Research <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > Damaeus wrote: > > > I guess neither side has figured out that God, if he resides > > anyplace, would be in the heart and not on a pile of dirt. > > I guess you haven't figured out that god isn't the big issue ( > except as motivational propaganda,) but rather TOURIST DOLLARS! Well, you're right. I never thought that they would have been arguing over that location for thousands of years just for tourist income. Maybe they could let Isreal have the mount and they could build Disney Arabia in Palestine. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Israeli right wing DEMANDS no compromise with the Palestinians!!!!!!
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:25:55 EST, William Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > Since Barak himself has made clear that he has no intention of > ceding ground on this issue, however, the right wing has focused > its campaign on the question of his acceptance of Clinton's > proposal for shared sovereignty over Jerusalem's Temple > Mount/Al-Aqsa mosquea holy-place for both Jews and Muslims. I guess neither side has figured out that God, if he resides anyplace, would be in the heart and not on a pile of dirt. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Ashcroft Christian Nation Speech at Bob Jones Univ. Should Disqualify No...
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:05:29 EST, William Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > Transcripts made available today of attorney general-nominee John > Ashcroft's speech at Bob Jones University in 1999 demonstrates > the former Senator's contempt for the nation's religious > liberties, according to Americans United for Separation of Church > and State. > > In the speech, Ashcroft said that America has "no king but > Jesus." Isn't this becoming dangerous? How many times in history have people invited themselves to be the interpretor and arbiter of God's laws and principles, only to end up killing thousands or even hundreds of thousands, thinking he's doing the work of God? Hitler believed he was doing the work of God. Of course, how do we know he wasn't? After all, look at all the disembodied spirits that would have been rising from the ashes of the holocaust. > "Ashcroft obviously believes the United States is a Christian > nation," continued Lynn. "He is woefully misinformed. Our > Constitution guarantees unqualified religious liberties for each > of us, regardless of our beliefs. The fact that Ashcroft rejects > this basic principle should be startling to all Americans of good > conscience. Well, he just wanted to say something that he thinks will get him support from all the Christians who would like hearing such a thing -- people who want to see a man in a postion of political power make everybody behave and act according to the Bible. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The KING Revealed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Caveat Lector- On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:30:31 EST, William Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > Stern Lecture > > > > have a PhD from Yale University. I am a college professor. I am a feminist > and a social activist. And yet, most mornings, from the hours of 7:30 to 10 > o'clock, I listen to the Howard Stern radio show on The X at 105.9. Moreover, [...] > writer: KATHY NEWMAN This must be the retraction somebody forced Kathy to write after she trash-talked Stern in a news article. Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] So, you thought it was the tar that caused cancer...
-Caveat Lector- So, you thought it was the tar that caused cancer... by Sol Lightman Think again. Cigarette companies will have you believing anything just as long as you continue to buy their products. The fact is, although insoluble tars are a contributing factor to the lung cancer danger present in today's cigarettes, the real danger is radioactivity. According to U.S. Surgeon General C. Everette Koop (on national television, 1990) radioactivity, not tar, accounts for at least 90% of all smoking related lung cancer. Tobacco crops grown in the United States are fertilized by law with phosphates rich in radium 226. In addition, many soils have a natural radium 226 content. Radium 226 breaks down into two long lived 'daughter' elements -- lead 210 and polonium 210. These radioactive particles become airborne, and attach themselves to the fine hairs on tobacco leaves. Studies have shown that lead 210 and polonium 210 deposits accumulate in the bodies of people exposed to cigarette smoke. Data collected in the late 1970's shows that smokers have three times as much of these elements in their lower lungs as non smokers. Smokers also show a greater accumulation of lead 210 and polonium 210 in their skeletons,though no studies have been conducted to link these deposits with bone cancer. Polonium 210 is the only component of cigarette smoke which has produced tumors by itself in inhalation experiments with animals. When a smoker inhales tobacco smoke, the lungs react by forming irritated areas in the bronchi. All smoke produces this effect. However, although these irritated spots are referred to as 'pre-cancerous' lesions, they are a perfectly natural defense system and usually go away with no adverse effects. Insoluble tars in tobacco smoke can slow this healing process by adhering to lesions and causing additional irritation. In addition, tobacco smoke causes the bronchi to constrict for long periods of time, which obstructs the lung's ability to clear itself of these residues. Polonium 210 and lead 210 in tobacco smoke show a tendency to accumulate at lesions in specific spots, called bifurcations, in the bronchi. When smoking is continued for an extended period of time, deposits of radioactivity turn into radioactive 'hot spots' and remain at bifurcations for years. Polonium 210 emits highly localized alpha radiation which has been shown to cause cancer. Since the polonium 210 has a half life of 21.5 years (Due to the presence of lead 210), it can put an ex-smoker at risk for years after he or she quits. Experiments measuring the level of polonium 210 in victims of lung cancer found that the level of 'hot spot' activity was virtually the same in smokers and ex-smokers even though the ex-smokers had quit five years prior to death. Over half of the radioactive materials emitted by a burning cigarette are released into the air, where they can be inhaled by non-smokers. In addition to lead 210 and polonium 210 it has been proven that tobacco smoke can cause airborne radioactive particles to collect in the lungs of both smokers and non-smokers exposed to second hand smoke. Original studies conducted on uranium miners which showed an increased risk of lung cancer due to exposure to radon in smokers have been re-run to evaluate the radioactive lung cancer risk from indoor air radon. It turns out that tobacco smoke works as a kind of 'magnet' for airborne radioactive particles, causing them to deposit in your lungs instead of on furniture. (Smoking indoors increases lung cancer risks greatly.) It has been estimated that the total accumulated alpha radiation exposure of a pack-a-day indoor smoker is 38 to 97 rad by age 60. (Two packs a day yields up to 143 rad, and non-smokers receive no more than 17 rad.) An exposure of 1 rad per year yields a 1% risk of lung cancer (at the lowest estimate.) Don't smoke. Or if you do, smoke lightly, outdoors, and engage frequently in activities which will clear your lungs. Imported India tobacco has less than half the radiation content ofthat grown in the U.S. Nicotine, the active ingredient in tobacco smoke, has long been known to be highly addictive. In fact, doctors and pharmacologists are not in consensus as to which is more addictive -- nicotine, or heroin. Many people think smoking marijuana is just as harmful as smoking tobacco, but this is not true. Those who hold that marijuana is equivalent to tobacco are misinformed. Due to the efforts of various federal agencies to discourage use of marijuana in the 1970's the government, in a fit of "reefer madness," conducted several biased studies designed to return results that would equate marijuana smoking with tobacco smoking, or worse. For example the Berkeley carcinogenic tar studies of the late 1970's concluded that "marijuana is one-and-a-half times as carcinogenic as tobacco." This finding was based sol
Re: [CTRL] Biometric Identification Schemes
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:53:41 -0600, Joe Gillaspie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, which said: > Charlie and Carolyn > Glad to hear from you all and all is well. Run across all kinds of stuff that is > not in the news, TV and print. Everything is ok down here as far as I know. Did > you hear from Suzanne over the New year? Love Ya. > Uncle Joe Need I ask who Charlie and Carolyn are? Nobody here by that name. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Biometric Identification Schemes
-Caveat Lector- If there was ever a full-scale opportunity to database who we are, this has to be it: JotterSAF eases your security and privacy concerns through biometric solutions. Use the unique characteristics of your voice, fingerprints, iris, or face to authenticate you. http://www.jottersaf.com/2001.html Imagine -- you use voiceprint identification and with one of those audio spectrographs of your voiceprint is on record. Then when you ask for a cherry ICEE at the corner 7-Eleven, if some black government op has some need to know, he can pull up your entire history without even getting an ID number or fingerprint from you. You didn't use a credit card, didn't show a driver's license, didn't write a check. All you did was ask for an ICEE. It's on record. But yes, it would make life easier. I would love to chunk all my passwords and simply use my fingerprint or iris scan or voiceprint to prove I am who I say I am. Of course, with voice print ID, if our voiceprints are kept on file someplace, then it only gives dark hackers a new way to rip us off. Break into a database, download a voiceprint and use that voiceprint to withdraw a few hundred dollars from an ATM. I guess for every new technology there is a new can of worms. I know they say it's bad to give up freedom for more security. I guess in this case we're giving up security to get more freedom -- freedom from password lists, etc... I wonder if this is one step toward everybody implanted with a microchip. For example, let's say we do have a problem with people "stealing" your identity with voiceprint and probably even fingerprints before long. Or we'll have rashes of crimes where people end up with their thumbs chopped off so the robber can run around and steal money left and right until the thumb rots and is no longer usable. What is the solution but to give people a choice of going back to passwords (less secure) or get a unique chip implanted for the ulimate security. perhaps the chip would be so small that even if somebody wanted to cut it out of you, it would be nearly impossible to find in the mass of tissue and blood, especially if one can pick where they want it implanted. People seem to have a hard time reverting back to the old days, so probably most people will go with the implant, I imagine. Damaeus Damaeus http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Charles Manson Tidbit
-Caveat Lector- Picked this up off a Bizarre Newsletter I get in e-mail from time to time. It's about Charles Manson and some things he's said. In particular I find his comment "In the world of the blind, the one-eyed man is king" to be quite interesting. I think he's saying that blind people have a more active third eye than one who is not blind. Greetings Fellow Bizarros: Have any of you seen a report circulating on the Internet that is supposedly penned by Charles Manson? Well, it looks like he wants peace in the Middle East NOW! Yeah, since he cannot get paroled, he wants to add his name to the long list of people who are praying for peace. Obviously I cannot verify the authenticity of this story, but it is one of the more wacky things I have read online. When I told the chief editor about this, he suggested that I fly to California to interview Manson about this. He reasoned that even if the story was a dead end, I should be able to cajole something "bizarre" from this mass murderer. Now, call me a coward, but visiting Charles Manson in person is not something I really want to do. Put me in for a road trip to a brothel, a cockfight, a tattoo parlor, but I draw the line with mass murderers. After I suggested that the chief editor at Shagmail replace me for an issue and take the assignment himself, he muttered that he was too busy. Instead of seeing this guy in person, I figured to bone up on some of his homespun philosophy. Here are some short quotes attributed to him: "The most happy marriage I can picture or even imagine to myself would be the union of a deaf man to a blind woman." "I think the best candidate for President of the United States is Al Gore. But, I wish he wasn't so stiff." "In the world of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." "The wishbone will never replace the backbone." And my favorite: "When you have got an elephant by the hind legs and he is trying to run away, it's best to let him run." Thanks Charlie, and if you ever get out on parole, drop my editor a line. I think he admires your philosophy of life. Bizarrely, Lewis http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Planet Project - November 15 - 18, 2000
-Caveat Lector- Planet Project http://www.planetproject.com/index.html You're invited to participate in an event that may become a part of history. For four days, November 15 - 18, 2000, you and millions of other people around the world are invited to answer a series of questions about what it's like to be a human being at the beginning of the millennium. As soon as you finish answering questions on topics ranging from health to religion, sleep to sex, marriage to child rearing, and crime to politics, you can immediately compare your answers to those of others who are answering the same questions at that very moment. Using a wide range of technologies never combined before, the project's goal is to involve people of all nations in an experience that enables them to instantly share and compare their thoughts, beliefs, opinions, fears, similarities, and differences. The Planet Project, aimed at being the largest collaborative online event ever, will be conducted on the Web and in the field and will include 500 "Planet Pollsters." These individuals will be sent to remote corners of the globe equipped with laptops, handheld computers, modems, and portable satellite up-links. These Pollsters will ensure that the voices of people without access to technology will also be included in the Planet Project. A parallel Student Underground version of the project will be conducted simultaneously and will consist of questions created by an international team of students around the world. Please mark the date on your calendar, and remember to tell your friends. See you on November 15! http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Crop Circles - Technical Blueprints of Future Human Inventions?
-Caveat Lector- Something I found on a web discussion board. Anybody ever heard of this? > Now try this on for size. What if advanced societies have > determined that drawing renditions of > soon-to-be-innovated-devices by the lesser advanced society is > the perfect & safest way of introducing themselves to that lesser > advanced civilization? That way, as soon as the less advanced > society innovates those "new" devices they will recognize those > drawn renditions for what they really are. And soon figure out > that they where drawn in the first place as an invitation to be > responded to rather then as an enigmatic oddity. Think about it. > If our advanced brethren where to land unannounced & en mass upon > the White House lawn what kind of reaction would ensue. > Pandimonium & hostilities come to mind, don't they? BUT,, by > going about initiating contact in this manner all the options are > in our hands. We decide when to meet & we will be expecting them > when they do come. http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
