[CTRL] Waking The Left Up To Skull And Bones
-Caveat Lector- http://rense.com/general58/waking.htm Waking The Left Up To Skull And Bones By Chuck Zlatkin 10-7-4 The world is still here, so I can continue to wonder about how my friends, who once agonized about having to vote for John Kerry, and are now happy about voting for him. I think when you have the need to be on the winning side against Bush; you can even convince yourself that you really like him. Kerry supported the war in Iraq, along with NAFTA, GATT, the WTO, the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, the Telecommunications Act of 1996 and so on and so forth. Kerry is called a liberal as Clinton was, but really he follows the Democratic Leadership Council line. That line was once called Republican. It will be a heavy price to pay when John Kerry,s version of anybody but Bush, turns out to be surprisingly close to the original. I will assume that you are really knowledgeable about the issues. I am confused as to how are you not terribly concerned about the fact that both George W. Bush and John F. Kerry are blood brothers in the most exclusive secret society? The Skull and Bones Society admits only fifteen new members each year. So if you figure that the average new member is 21 years old when tapped there can,t even be as many as 800 living members in the world. What is the population of the United States now? According to the Census Bureau PopClock at http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html the current population is 294,423,981. Do you really think that the odds would point to the two presidential candidates coming from the same secret society with not even 800 living members? When I talk to people about this I always ask them how much they really know about the Skull and Bones Society? They usually say not that much. Most people that I know are left of center and so am I. But being left of center didn,t stop me from reading Fleshing Out Skull and Bones: Investigation Into America,s Most Powerful Secret Societies by Antony Sutton, Howard Altman, Kris Milligan, Dr Ralph Bunch, Anton Chaitkin Webster Griffin Tarpley, Edited by Kris Milligan. Published 2003. http://www.fleshingoutskullandbones.com/ Last night Norman Nobody Sommer called me. He is the founder and president of the Umbrella Movement to Counteract the Right. Its web site is www.therightiswrong.us and you might see why what he has to say interests me (at least Alan Colmes credited me when he lifted my name). Sommer claims he got the phrase from his granddaughter and it was all innocent. As Sommer pitched me to get involved with his movement, I got into conversation with him about Kerry. Sommer is an erudite, politically astute gentleman. But when I asked him how much he knew about the Skull and Bones society, he mentioned that he didn,t know much. I,m going to send him a copy of Milligan,s book. When it comes to understanding who the powers-that-be are and what they do, I have found much valuable information from the work of Alex Jones. Jones uncovers plenty. He filmed inside the Bohemian Grove compound showing all the world what depravity goes on there. I would recommend going to Alex Jones two websites www.infowars.com and www.prisonplanet.com to witness for yourself what Jones make available to you. I would also suggest seeing American Dictators by Alex Jones and Kevin Booth. In this videotape Jones makes a strong argument that we are a lot further along the road to fascism than most of us want to admit. Alex Jones is a broadcaster out of Austin, Texas. I,m afraid that too many people on the left are unable to hear what Jones is telling them. Alex Jones is a 2nd Amendment, anti-abortion, United Nations-fearing, Christian patriot. He also is unrelenting in his quest for the truth about those who wish to enslave us. Jones,s personal beliefs didn't stop Cynthia McKinney from respecting him for the truth that he has unearthed, and it doesn,t stop me, either. I would submit to you that requiring people to pass litmus tests before we allow them to share truth with us, is a true failing of much of the left. I remember when George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography by Webster G. Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin was originally published, many people on the left doubted the work or ignored it completely because of the authors rumored association with Lyndon Larouche. How foolish. Tarpley and Chaitkin,s work was groundbreaking. You can check it out for yourself. It is available for free on the web at http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm and by the way Lyndon Larouche is supporting Kerry. I haven,t really changed, in the sense that I still feel much more comfortable with sources from the left. But what am I supposed to do when Noam Chomsky, Ronnie Dugger, Barbara Ehrenreich, Richard Falk, Jim Hightower, Saul Landau, Michael Lerner, Manning Marable, Robert McChesney, Marcus Raskin, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Studs Terkel, Harvey Wasserman, and Howard Zinn have all joined the Kerry for President movement? I have been predicting that Kerry would be the
Re: [CTRL] The Order of Skull Bones,CIA-Drugs and why Marijuanais'illegal.' - 2003 Cann
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Subject: [blue honey] Jack Herer and James Arthur Cannabis Cup Nov. 20th 2003 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 05:54:12 - From: toosirius666 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Herer and James Arthur Cannabis Cup Nov. 20th 2003 LIVE From Amsterdam Cannabis Cup (This year it is themed as the Conspiracy Cup). Jack Herer is being inducted into the Counter Culture Hall of Fame (He also received earlier this year the NORML lifetime achievement award) he was awarded Man of The Century from High Times Magazine for uncovering the greatest conspiracy of all time (The Conspiracy against Hemp/Marijuana) in Dec 1999. Jack herer has been working with James Arthur on a new beek entitled The Most High, Plants of The Gods, an Exploration into The End Of The World , As You Know It. Check out the links below. Amsterdam Cannabis Cup http://www.420tours.com/sched2003.html http://www.jackherer.com http://www.jamesarthur.net www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Order of Skull Bones,CIA-Drugs and why Marijuana is'illegal.' - 2003 Cann
-Caveat Lector- Congratulations, you lucky f*ck! Kris Millegan wrote: Howdy One and All, I shall be at the High Times 2003 Cannabis Cup in Amsterdam,Netherlands on Tuesday, November 25th at 1:00 p.m. for a presentation,The Order of Skull Bones, CIA-Drugs and why Marijuana is'illegal.' 2003 Cannabis Cup Schedule Stop by if you can. It shall be my first time in Amsterdam. Thanks, Peace, Om Kris Millegan Fleshing Out Skull Bones If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for. . . greed and love of power. - P.J. O'Rourke www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Corporate Media abandons the sinking Ship-of-Fools in Washington
-Caveat Lector- http://www.albawaba.com/news/index.php3?sid=263105lang=edir=news The Corporate Media abandons the sinking Ship-of-Fools in Washington by Les Blough 11-11-2003, 09:44 The real story in the New York Times article about Paul Bremer's complaints about the media is not just about a political bum moaning about a great media-watchdog - as the NYT would have us believe. Quite the contrary. Lest we forget, - this same media about which Paul Bremer bitterly complains - is the media that supported the war on Iraq until the destruction was complete. The Neocons in Zionist think-tanks who served as advisors to the Bush regime - engineered the war. The corporate media garnered and maintained the support of the flag-waving U.S. population for the war. The U.S. economy is weakened. The media is reporting a surging stock market to be enjoyed by the rich. - while the national debt grows to burden future generations of young American taxpayers and joblessness, homelessness, personal bankruptcies, home foreclosures and living-on-debt become a fact-of-life for the bourgeois and poor. Funds have been diverted from education, healthcare and support for our poor to war on others. The assault on civil liberties in the U.S. is now institutionalized in the Homeland Security Act. U.S. soldiers are being critically wounded and dying in Iraq in increasing numbers. And U.S. citizens are enjoying the status of the most hated people in the world. Ordinary Muslims and Arabs have been successfully villainized by a new, virulent, media-driven racism. The Zionists have been given the greenlight for escalated atrocities, destruction and land-theft in Palestine. The guns are cocked in other Middle-Eastern nations and Russia. The Middle East is now destabilized. Israel is prowling the seas with submarines equipped with America's nuclear warheads. Israel has cash-on-demand as never before at the U.S. Congressional ATM. $$Billions are tucked away in the coffers of the corrupt Rebuild Iraq corporations and the industrial military complex. Iraq and Afghanistan - whatever their prewar conditions - have been destroyed as a nation with tens of thousands of Afgans and Iraqis dead and maimed, their infrastructure in ruins, their way of life turned to chaos and anarchy, tribal wars, chaos and heroin thriving in Afghanistan, Iraq's antiquities looted by foreigners and their proud history - as humans - our history - the cradle of civilization - devastated. Now this same corporate-media - distances itself from the war it wanted all along, burning it's U.S. and U.K. lapdog-governments along the way - with headlines that scream about the injustice of this ill-conceived, criminal war against the sovereign nations of Afghanistan and Iraq. Justification for pre-emptive wars has been established as a valid way of dealing with conflict for all nations. The world may be skirting the edges of thermonuclear war and anyone who says so is marginalized by the media as a conspiracy-kook. In the article cited above, the New York Times has it both ways - preserving it's status as a watchdog, victimized by Bremer and Bush-administration, but also selling the propaganda for the regime in Washington that things aren't as bad as they seem to be in Iraq. So I ask, - What did Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rumsfield, Ashcroft, Bremer crowd think? - Were they really stupid enough to believe that the media who helped them get appointed by the U.S. Supreme Court - would remain on-board and go down with the sinking ship-of-fools in Washington? Throw the Bush regime out of Washington in 2004? Of course! But make no mistake, whatever regime takes their place - Republican or Democrat - it will be owned and operated by the same neocons and their media backers who managed the Bush regime. Do we really want to address the atrocities of the U.S. government in the Middle East? Are we willing to pay the price for real change? If our answer is Yes! to these questions, we will not have it by voting for the next corrupt politician offered to us by this corporate owned democracy in 2004. We will only have it by turning out en-masse on Pennsylvania Avenue. Watch for the next national protest and march against Washington. Even if you have never participated in a political demonstration before, make plans to be there. Les Blough is an editor at Axis of Logic - a webiste committed to publishing news and commentary that is often not presented in the major news outlets. The website can be visited at www.axisoflogic.com www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the
[CTRL] Outsourcing is tantamount to legalized slave labor
-Caveat Lector- http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5190.htm NEWS YOU WON'T FIND ON CNN OR FOX Mo's American Workers can safely say, Bye, Bye to the Slice of the American Pie Norma Sherry 11/11/03: (ICH) Im just going to blurt it out; tell it like it is. In the words of the venerable, Walter Cronkite, thats the way it is. Here it is folks; outsourcing is tantamount to legalized slave labor. Of course, its much more than that to the American worker. Ask anyone who is out of work, out of unemployment, on the verge of losing their home and all that they worked for and thought was their American dream come true. Their jobs by the multi-millions have left the shores of the U.S. for greener, cheaper labor. Slave labor. A dollar an hour versus twenty-five or fourteen, or even ten, you figure the math, big business, not-so-big business, even the little businesses are moving in droves to lands faraway. The problem with doing so, however, is multi-dimensional. For the millions of American workers who have lost their jobs, the prospects are very dim. Jody, who has worked as an IT professional for twenty years, lost her job when her company outsourced its workforce to a foreign land and foreign workers. In five months, she hasnt been interviewed even once despite her very marketable skills. When her unemployment runs out, she fears shell have no recourse but to sell their home. Beverly says, I completed my graduate degree in engineering and truly thought that I was living the American dream. That is until three years ago when she and her co-workers watched as the jobs dwindled down and were shipped first to Mexico and then elsewhere. All the years of bettering herself, securing her future in the finality were measured in her ability to instruct her replacement to do her job. Humiliation and degradation were her reward. Fern was in healthcare for thirty years. She watched as nursing jobs were given to immigrant nurses rather than American graduates. Sadly, she laments observing sweet, dedicated and idealistic young women she trained become hardened and embittered. How did this happen. Where were we? Did we have our heads buried in the sand? Or were we preoccupied with the realities of everyday life? Perhaps thats what our policy makers counted on. But I can tell you one thing for certain. It didnt happen overnight. In fact, it began to surface in the late 70s championed by the very conservative Heritage Foundation. Under the auspices of President Ronald Reagan, free trade throughout the hemisphere was borne. But truth be known, the seeds were sown long before Ronald Reagan. Richard Milhous Nixon was the first President given authority in the 1974 Fast Track Bill. It was awarded every president thereafter through 1998. Fast Track gives the President sole authority over trade negotiations. Congress, after the fact, can accept or reject the negotiation, but it cannot amend it in any way whatsoever. In effect, Fast Track effectively removes Congress from the process of world trade negotiations. Ronald Reagan, however, was the first to propose a free trade agreement in his 1980 presidential campaign. Proudly, The Heritage Foundation boasts its role in articulating President Reagans vision in no less than three dozen reports. The Heritage Foundation predicted that free trade would, over a fifteen-year time span, create the world's largest market: some 360 million people, with an economic output of more than $6 trillion a year. Moreover, they asserted that NAFTA would guarantee that American workers would remain the most competitive in the world. That American consumers would continue to have access to the world's finest goods and services. They also emphasized that NAFTA would assure Americans cheaper goods while increasing U.S. exports to the rest of the world. Moreover, the American workforce was told NAFTA would stimulate and create an estimated 200,000 jobs annually. Later, The Heritage Foundation wrote, Economists are virtually unanimous in their conclusion that the NAFTA will have a strongly positive impact on job growth throughout the US, with most estimates in the hundreds of thousands. They also predicted NAFTA would effectively reduce illegal immigration from Mexico, would be instrumental in tackling drug trafficking, would strengthen Mexican democracy and human rights, and above all else, would serve as a model for the rest of the world. It all sounded so cheeky. Lofty predilections. The only aspect that has proven true for Americans is cheaper goods. Instead of the 200,000 promised new jobs yearly for Americans, American workers are losing their jobs to date, conservatively speaking by 2.7 million. The rate of which is growing steadily. As a matter of fact, 200,000 additional jobs were lost to American workers in September alone. However, The Heritage Foundation and the Office of the US Trade Representative (USTR) say the converse is true. The USTR
Re: [CTRL] December 8, 2002
-Caveat Lector- Eric Stewart wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2550513.stm Sunday, 8 December, 2002, 01:22 GMT Israel 'faked al-Qaeda presence' Officials from the Palestinian Authority have accused the Israeli spy agency Mossad of setting up a fake al-Qaeda terrorist cell in Gaza. In George Orwell's 1984, the state aka Big Brother needed an enemy to keep the population scared and obedient. Lacking an enemy who was credible as a threat without actually being one, the state invented Emmanuel Goldstein, a fictitious enemy splashed across the view-screens as a target for the public two minute hate. Orwell wrote 1984 as a warning of the depths that governments would sink to to maintain power. And, it appears that he was correct if underscoring the creation of fake villains. http://whatreallyhappened.com/palqaeda.jpg The above photo is of the arrest of an Al Qaeda cell in Palestine. Surprise, surprise, the arrested men turned out to be working for Israel's Mossad, tasked with CREATING an Al Qaeda menace where none actually existed. This raises the interesting question that if at least SOME of Al Qaeda are Mossad, what if they all are? Just as Big Brother needed Emmanuel Goldstein to justify its policies, so to does the US and Israel NEED an Al Qaeda to justify expansion into oil-rich Arab nations. As this Christian Science Monitor article suggests, the claim of a unified Al Qaeda may be a manufactured myth, as fake as Saddam's nuclear bombs. - M. R. whatreallyhappened.com http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0523/p11s02-coop.html Mossad Exposed In Phony 'Palestinian Al Qaeda' Caper by Michele Steinberg, Tuesday, February 11, 2003 http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/02/1572495.php BY WAY OF DECEPTION by Justin Raimondo Israel pulls a fast one and gets caught http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j120902.html Did Jewish Diamond Merchants, Israeli Arm Smugglers and Jewish/Russian Mobsters Finance Al Qaeda? http://www.libertyforum.org/showthreaded.php?Board=news_membersNumber=376601 And if they did, doesn't it support the theory that, like the cell arrested in Palestine, Al Qaeda is a Mossad operation. - M. R. Does Al-Qaida exist? http://www.bond.org.uk/networker/july03/opinion.htm An Al Qaeda magazine? Tell me another one. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/135456p-120644c.html Disinformation Busted! CIA posing as Al Qaeda muslamaniacs at jihadunspun.com http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=Board=news_internationalNumber=803075t=-1 -- Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear -- kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor -- with the cry of grave national emergency... Always there has been some terrible evil to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant sums demanded. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real. --General Douglas MacArthur The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. --H.L. Mencken The people never give up their liberty but under some delusion. --Edmund Burke www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rothschilds Conduct 'Red Symphony' - The 20th Century Unveiled
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rense.com/general44/rek.htm Makow - Rothschilds Conduct 'Red Symphony' The 20th Century Unveiled By Henry Makow PhD 11-9-3 Incredible and bizarre as it sounds, humanity is indeed the victim of a diabolical conspiracy. War, depression and genocide in the past century were not accidental or inevitable but the result of a malevolent design. Shocking evidence is a 1938 Stalinist police (NKVD) interrogation of a founder of the Communist International, Christian G. Rakovsky, 65, who was facing the firing squad for plotting to overthrow Stalin. The 50-page transcript of his interrogation, dubbed The Red Symphony, was not meant to become public. It confirms that the Rothschild-Illuminati planned to use Communism to establish a world dictatorship of the super rich. This is perhaps the most explosive political document in modern history. It reveals why the Illuminati financed Hitler and then tried to destroy him, and why Stalin made a pact with Hitler in 1939. Christian Rakovsky was a veteran Communist insider. Born Chaim Rakeover in 1873, he studied medicine in France before becoming a revolutionary. He was the leader of a terror group that attacked government officials. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/RUSrakovsky.htm In 1919, Lenin put him in charge of the Soviet Ukraine government. He successfully kept the area for the Bolsheviks during the Civil War. Stalin appointed him Russian ambassador to Paris in 1925, Rakovsky belonged to the powerful Trotskyite faction that took their orders from the Rothschilds. Many of this group were shot in Stalin's 1937 Communist Party purge. MIDNIGHT INTERROGATION Thus, the circumstances of the midnight interrogation Jan. 26, 1938 were very dramatic. What could Rakovsky say that would save his life? Rakovsky appears to use the tactic of deceiving with the truth. He wins trust by revealing the truth but leaves some of it out. He tries to impress Kus'min that he and Trotsky represent an invincible power he calls the Capitalist-Communist Financial International. He confirms that the revolutionary movement was designed to enlist support by pretending to serve mankind's moral and collective ideals. The real aim, however, is to divide society, undermine established authority and create totalitarian rule. Revolution really means, overturning Western civilization. Christianity is our only real enemy since all the political and economic phenomena of the bourgeois states are only its consequences, Rakovsky says. (Griffin, p. 264) Peace is counter-revolutionary since it is war that paves the way for revolution. Rakovsky refers to the Illuminati as they or them. He claims he does not know them but I suspect he does. He explains that the Illuminati is a Masonic secret society dedicated to Communism. Significantly, its founder Adam Weishaupt took the name from the second anti-Christian conspiracy of that era, gn osticism. (249) HOW THIS GRIPPING ACCOUNT SURFACED The interrogator was one of Stalin's cleverest agents, Gavriil Kus'min known as Gabriel. Apart from him and a hidden sound technician, a doctor Jose Landowsky was the only other person present. Conscripted by the NKVD to help loosen the tongues of detainees, Dr. Landowsky was sickened by the many tortures he witnessed. The interrogation of Rakovsky, however, was cordial. Dr. Landowsky doubts if the mild euphoric he put in Rakovsky's drink had much effect. The interrogation, conducted in French lasted from midnight until 7 a.m. After, Kus'min ordered Landowsky to translate the interview into Russian and make two copies. The content was so mind boggling that Landowsky made an additional carbon for himself. I am not sorry that I had the courage for this, he wrote. (279) (The Bolsheviks had shot Landowsky's father, a Tsarist colonel, during the 1917 revolution.) A Spanish volunteer later found the manuscript on Landowsky's dead body in a hut on the Petrograd front during World War Two. He took it back to Spain where it was published as Sinfonia en Rojo Mayo. in 1949. A person with the nickname Yamaguchi has posted the first half of Red Symphony on the Internet at http://yamaguchy.netfirms.com/symphony/red1.html The whole transcript was published in English in 1968 as The Red Symphony: X-Ray of Revolution. You can find it in Des Griffin's Fourth Reich of the Rich. (1988) I recommend this book. REVELATIONS Rakovsky gives his interrogator an astonishing inside view of modern history in order to prove that his sponsors control the world. Money is the basis of power, Rakovsky says, and the Rothschilds manufacture it thanks to the banking system. The Revolutionary Movement was an attempt by Meyer Rothschild and his allies to protect and extend this monopoly by establishing a New World Order using the revolutionary movement. According to Rakovsky, The Rothschilds were not the treasurers, but the chiefs of that first secret Communism...Marx and the highest chiefs of the First
Re: [CTRL] Sept. 11 panel to subpoena NORAD
-Caveat Lector- Eric Stewart wrote: http://www.msnbc.com/news/990850.asp?pne=msntv Sept. 11 panel to subpoena NORAD Air defense command promised records but didnt deliver http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3253401.stm 9/11 inquiry subpoenas Pentagon A United States federal commission investigating the 11 September 2001 attacks has voted to subpoena the Pentagon. The panel said they were dismayed that documents they had requested about the country's air defences on the day of the attack had not been provided. They subpoenaed the Federal Aviation Administration last month, accusing the organisation of slowing down their inquiry. The 10-member, bipartisan panel has until May to report on its investigation into lapses in national security relating to the plane hijackings that led to the deaths of about 3,000 people. They had requested information from the North American Aerospace Defense Command, Norad, which is responsible for protecting North American airspace. Ministerial backing The commission has encountered some serious delays in obtaining needed documents from the Department of Defense, they said in a statement. We are especially dismayed by problems in the production of the records of activities of ... Norad and certain Air Force commands on September 11, 2001. The commission has therefore voted to issue a subpoena requiring the production of these records. They issued a subpoena to the Federal Aviation Administration in October requesting information on air traffic control tracking of hijacked aircraft. Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was said to back the commission's request for documentation. The commission has a statutory deadline to meet, said Defense Undersecretary for Intelligence, Stephen Cambone. The Secretary has directed that the department be responsive to held ensure the commission can meet its deadlines. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Iraq is not America's to sell
-Caveat Lector- They lacked legitimate authority to invade and occupy, why would they care about having legitimate authority to loot and plunder? They're cowardly and vicious, with no legal or moral scruples, only pretentions. Once one understands this fact, the activities and motivations of these cheats, and usurpers, and robbers, and murderers should be of no surprise: 200 Iraqi state companies would be privatised; decreed that foreign firms can retain 100% ownership of Iraqi banks, mines and factories; and allowed these firms to move 100% of their profits out of Iraq. The Economist declared the new rules a capitalist dream. Eric Stewart wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4791982-103677,00.html Iraq is not America's to sell International law is unequivocal - Paul Bremer's economic reforms are illegal Naomi Klein Friday November 7, 2003 The Guardian Bring Halliburton home. Cancel the contracts. Ditch the deals. Rip up the rules. Those are just a few of the suggestions for slogans that could help unify the growing movement against the occupation of Iraq. So far, activist debates have focused on whether the demand should be for a complete withdrawal of troops, or for the United States to cede power to the United Nations. But the troops out debate overlooks an important fact. If every last soldier pulled out of the Gulf tomorrow and a sovereign government came to power, Iraq would still be occupied: by laws written in the interest of another country; by foreign corporations controlling its essential services; by 70% unemployment sparked by public sector layoffs. Any movement serious about Iraqi self-determination must call not only for an end to Iraq's military occupation, but to its economic colonisation as well. That means reversing the shock therapy reforms that US occupation chief Paul Bremer has fraudulently passed off as reconstruction, and cancelling all privatisation contracts that are flowing from these reforms. How can such an ambitious goal be achieved? Easy: by showing that Bremer's reforms were illegal to begin with. They clearly violate the international convention governing the behaviour of occupying forces, the Hague regulations of 1907 (the companion to the 1949 Geneva conventions, both ratified by the United States), as well as the US army's own code of war. The Hague regulations state that an occupying power must respect unless absolutely prevented, the laws in force in the country. The coalition provisional authority has shredded that simple rule with gleeful defiance. Iraq's constitution outlaws the privatisation of key state assets, and it bars foreigners from owning Iraqi firms. No plausible argument can be made that the CPA was absolutely prevented from respecting those laws, and yet two months ago, the CPA overturned them unilaterally. On September 19, Bremer enacted the now infamous Order 39. It announced that 200 Iraqi state companies would be privatised; decreed that foreign firms can retain 100% ownership of Iraqi banks, mines and factories; and allowed these firms to move 100% of their profits out of Iraq. The Economist declared the new rules a capitalist dream. Order 39 violated the Hague regulations in other ways as well. The convention states that occupying powers shall be regarded only as administrator and usufructuary of public buildings, real estate, forests and agricultural estates belonging to the hostile state, and situated in the occupied country. It must safeguard the capital of these properties, and administer them in accordance with the rules of usufruct. Bouvier's Law Dictionary defines usufruct (possibly the ugliest word in the English language) as an arrangement that grants one party the right to use and derive benefit from another's property without altering the substance of the thing. Put more simply, if you are a housesitter, you can eat the food in the fridge, but you can't sell the house and turn it into condos. And yet that is just what Bremer is doing: what could more substantially alter the substance of a public asset than to turn it into a private one? In case the CPA was still unclear on this detail, the US army's Law of Land Warfare states that the occupant does not have the right of sale or unqualified use of [non-military] property. This is pretty straightforward: bombing something does not give you the right to sell it. There is every indication that the CPA is well aware of the lawlessness of its privatisation scheme. In a leaked memo written on March 26, the British attorney general, Lord Goldsmith, warned Tony Blair that the imposition of major structural economic reforms would not be authorised by international law. So far, most of the controversy surrounding Iraq's reconstruction has focused on the waste and corruption in the awarding of contracts. This badly misses the scope of the violation: even if the sell-off of Iraq were
[CTRL] Sign, Sign, Everywhere A Sign
-Caveat Lector- Sign, Sign, Everywhere A Sign! Part 1 Free Press International 11.06.2003 By Greg Ericson http://www.freepressinternational.com/hints.html www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Activists Distribute Red Pill to Matrix Movie Goers
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/11/1657708.php Activists Distribute Red Pill to Matrix Movie Goers November 6, 2003 SAN FRANCISCO, A group of East Bay activists showed up at San Francisco movie theaters yesterday to distribute red pills, or New World Order matrix cards, to Matrix Revolutions moviegoers. The activists, known as Neo, Morpheus, Trinity and Agent Smith, hit the Loews and the Coronet theaters with exhortations for people to take the red pill and learn about the REAL matrix that we live in. The cards list twenty websites where people can learn about the New World Order -- the World Bank, the neo-cons, privatization, militarization, enemy creation and the corporate media -- and how these bodies and agents are working for social and structural control the world and crafting the scenarios to make it happen. People in the lines enthusiastically started reading the cards including a Trinity Trio, three women dressed in patent leather and dark sunglasses, who instantly got the connection between the movie and the cards. Oh, we know we are living in another matrix. These are wonderful, one Trinity said about the cards. http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/matrixcard.jpg -- Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted - Martin Luther King, Jr. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Shock And Awe Not Only For Iraqis
-Caveat Lector- http://www.rense.com/general44/shockandawenotonly.htm Shock And Awe Not Only For Iraqis By Joan Veon WomensGroup.org 11-7-3 While Americans can't help but be fixated by America's Revolutionary military operation called Shock and Awe, designed to render great physical and psychological damage to the enemy by raining down a huge number of devastating cruise missiles in a short period of time, most are not aware that Americans are about to receive their own economic Shock and Awe. Many forget that while Rome burned, Nero was busy deflecting attention away from the real center of action. The front page of Saturday's Washington Post featured a huge picture showing the burning of Baghdad with all but five percent of the front page devoted to the war in Iraq. However, at the bottom was the bunker buster which will shatter our own field of dreams here in America. The Post reported that a few hours before the Senate action, the House--meeting well past midnight on its version of the budget--voted 215 to 212 to approve Bush's full $726B tax cut request. Furthermore with the House and Senate controlled by the GOP, it is expected that by Wednesday, a final version of Bush's growth and stimulus bill will be ready. Unfortunately, our government has not really made clear what this tax law is all about. I consider this proposal to be the most heinous change as it will destroy the ability of the middle class to sustain their economic power while enhancing the upper classes. If enacted, this legislation which will deliver the final blow to the ability of Joe and Jane Average to get ahead. It should be pointed out that its title is a misnomer. This plan will not stimulate the economy but will cause much larger deficits, which will be borne by Americans as a result of the war, which is being waged. According to many key economists, the proposed legislation will change the ENTIRE TAX CODE OF AMERICA from a tax on income to a tax on consumption. At this point in history, we are the only developed country not to have this form of taxation which means Bush is globalizing our tax laws. In other words, he is harmonizing our tax laws and system to conform to what the major European industrial countries have. In my opinion, this basically will set the platform for a global IRS. Under this Value Added Tax-VAT, every time a purchase is made, there will be up to a possible 27% tax on it. This tax will replace the tax on income, making only consumption taxable while all forms of income are tax-free. For those who have enough savings to live off of their income, this is a windfall, but for those who have only debt with little or no savings, this will create a financial burden equal to the Israelites having to make bricks without straw. At the heart of this plan is the elimination of tax on corporate dividends. Again, if you obtain your living from stock dividends, this will be like going to heaven. No tax on INCOME--only a tax on what you buy. Let's look at three different sets of individuals. First we have Old Money Harry. He has never had to have a real job because he gets his living from the family trust. All of the family assets--the fabulous house, the cars, the summer homes, the yacht, the Mercedes and Rolls are held by the family trust, along with title to three large commercial pieces of real estate. Harry made several killings buying and selling real estate because the gains were tax-free since they were inside the family trust. The only downside is that the income from the trust is taxed. However, under the proposal to reduce tax brackets from 38% to 21%, it won't hurt as much. Harry will have 17% more to spend. Only what you buy--will be taxed, however, if you have it in a trust--NO TAX. Old Money Harry will achieve growth unsurpassed under the proposed tax stimulus plan, just like the Kennedy's the Rockefellers, the Mellon's and anyone else with this arrangement. Next are John and Jane Middleclass. Both have reasonably good jobs with attractive incomes. They both have advanced degrees and live in the executive home to match their rising social status. They lease a Lexus and Jaguar and think nothing of packing up and going to Vale or to the Bahamas at a moments notice. They have re-financed the house several times to add a new wing, exceptional landscaping and a pool. While they know they are basically spending everything they are bringing in, they rationalize by thinking about the rising equity in their home and how much they will be able to cash out when they retire. Unfortunately their 401k's got zapped during the NASDAQ crash. Donnie and Susie Squeeze are twenty-five years old. Donnie served in the military and works as a mechanic for the local Honda dealer. They have three small children and Susie works part-time at the local grocery store. They are saving for a down payment on a home and hope to send their kids to college if they can afford it. Right now they are just barely making ends meet.
Re: [CTRL] Faction 2 3
-Caveat Lector- Daniel Harrison wrote: Can anyone enlighten myself on the origans of Faction 2 3? http://rumormillnews.com/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Billions are wondering why
-Caveat Lector- http://www.mediamonitors.net/johnkaminski1.html Billions are wondering why by John Kaminski Several billion people in the world including myself are wondering why: America is hell-bent on destroying its own Constitution. The first Patriot Act torpedoed most of it, but now the new Patriot Act II currently under wraps and about to be deployed secretly for a rigged vote in Congress actually contains a provision to revoke the citizenship of American citizens if they are deemed to be connected with a terrorist organization. This decision would require no proof, only an assertion by the government. It means that people who attend peace protests are now eligible for indefinite detention without access to lawyers or phone calls to family. To be clear, it means quite literally that America is no longer a free country, and that its citizens are no longer Constitutionally protected from arbitrary punishment by its war-mad government. Several billion people don't understand why all Americans aren't out screaming in the streets that their freedom has been taken away by rich fascists who don't tell the truth about anything. Nobody is talking about the experiments by an Israeli astronaut that may have brought down space shuttle Columbia. Despite controversial photos of lightning hitting the craft, and knowledge that Ilan Ramon was working on a new way to spy on Iraq, the phrase americium-242 which is apparently the new technology to take us to Mars remains hidden from the public. As Yoichi Clark Shimatsu wrote: The negative charge of the high-energy electron pulse from the americium-242 would attract the positive charge of the gas plasma generated by sprites (lightning is positive in the upper elevations)... A lightning burst would account for the sudden surge in temperature, the immediate shutdown of heat sensors and communications systems (why the ghostly last words were never transmitted to NASA monitors), and for the tumbling that sent Columbia, a flaming chariot of the heavens, to her doom. Ramon was testing an infrared spy camera that can see through clouds. Anyone believes these terror alerts so frequently declared by the American government. More people are beginning to notice that these things are called for one of two reasons: either when some nasty bit of political revelation threatens to further tarnish the already-trashed reputation of the Bush regime as most recently when Secretary of State Powell used plagiarized material to impress the world about how dangerous Iraq was or, when the Bush regime wants to clandestinely sneak another repressive legislative measure past American's comatose Congress, as it does now, with Patriot Act II. Because the spin-off stories completely seize control of the attention of the prostituted major news media, these terror alerts are clearly meant to distract the public from the actual news, as in the current case, which is the dismantling of the Constitution, and the continued cover-up of Bush financial crimes. There has never been an effort to investigate the events of 9/11 and explain what happened on this sad day to the general public. Clearly most of the several billion including myself believe that the reason is obvious: because the people who did the crime are doing the cover-up. How else could eight of the named hijackers still be alive? A good point made by a friend the other day was that how could Osama bin Laden have been praising the devotion of suicide hijackers when eight of them were still alive. Or how about: how does Colin Powell already know what bin Laden is saying before the TV station which is going to reveal the piece has done so? Did you know al-Jazeera used to be a BBC outlet? Who is bin Laden, what is his purpose, and who does he really work for? Um-hmm. Few people are raising questions about the obviously false statements we have been told about 9/11? Why did it take 28 minutes for flight controllers to notify NORAD two planes had been hijacked when the average time to do so in such a case is 3 minutes? Why were fighters scrambled from a base 180 miles away when seven other bases had fighter jets ready that could have done the job in a fraction of the time? Why was FEMA in New York the night before the crashes? Why did those fires at the base of the towers burn for 100 days? Why did Bush read a book for a half hour when he knew two planes had hit and two more were hijacked? Why was the bin Laden family flown out of the country when all flights were grounded? Why did the FBI chief say we had no warning this was coming and everybody else in the FBI say we had plenty of warning? Who did make the millions of dollars from all those put options on two airlines the day before the attacks? These are only a fraction of the questions the government continues to cover up, as several billions of people know. All the targets of American aggression in recent history have been former allies who were armed and
[CTRL] Russia Ready to Vaporize the Jewish State
-Caveat Lector- http://www.joevialls.co.uk/myahudi/sunburn.html Russia Ready to Vaporize the Jewish State And then kick America out of the Eastern Hemispheres oilfields Copyright Joe Vialls, 28 October 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] During the Cold War of the sixties, the only thing stopping American or Russian psychopaths from taking over the entire world was the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction [MAD], where a multiple ICBM launch by America on Russia or vice versa, would automatically lead to a doomsday response by the nation under attack. Mutual destruction of both America and Russia was thereby guaranteed, resulting in nearly thirty years of unprecedented peace and quiet, caused solely by mutual nuclear fear. About one month ago, Russia discreetly invoked MAD again, but this time in the Middle East in direct response to hysterical Israeli threats to nuke Iran with submarine-launched American Harpoon missiles. Quietly and with the minimum of fuss, Russia deployed its most advanced tactical nuclear missiles and crews to both Syria and Iran, thereby sending an unmistakable diplomatic signal that if Israel attacked Tehran or Damascus with nuclear weapons, Russia would in return instantly and anonymously vaporize the Jewish State. This is not an idle or exaggerated threat. The Russian missile type deployed in Syria and Iran is the P270 Moskit [Mosquito], known in NATO circles as the SS-N-22 Sunburn, once described by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher as the most dangerous anti-ship missile in the Russian, and now the Chinese, fleet. The ship borne version of this missile is launched from deck mounted quad tubes, but since Rohrabacher made his comments, Russia has adapted the Sunburn for submerged launch from submarines, air launch from Sukhoi 27s, and single surface launch from modified 40 flatbed trucks. Nowadays, western defense experts unambiguously view all versions of Sunburn as the most dangerous missiles in the world. To see exactly how the Zionists drove us to this nuclear flash point, it is necessary to go back a few years to discover how the Jewish State managed to acquire sophisticated German submarine launch platforms, and American nuclear-tipped Harpoon missiles, thereby allowing a bunch of psychotic religious crazies in Tel Aviv to bring the Middle East, and perhaps the entire world, to the very brink of thermonuclear war. Around 1989 Israel was trying to replace its obsolescent Gal-class submarine fleet, while simultaneously whining that it didnt have the funds to do so. Predictably perhaps, the Jewish State was looking for a free hand out. Having failed to extract these big-ticket items as gifts from America, in 1991 Israel turned its sights on Germany, perpetually in moral debt to the Zionists because of the brilliantly managed and highly successful holocaust industry. After a pathetically short period of Zionist arm wrestling in Berlin, Germany caved-in and agreed to build and provide the first two Dolphin class submarines free of charge, and extend a loan to Israel for the third. Naturally this loan was never repaid, meaning that German taxpayers had unwittingly funded Israels entire submarine fleet, custom-designed to launch nuclear-tipped missiles from specially designed torpedo tubes. Obtaining the deadly American Harpoon missiles was relatively easy. For decades American taxpayers have unwittingly provided the Jewish State with enough free expendable munitions to crush the Palestinian people in their own country, and the Harpoon missile is classed as an expendable munition. What this means is that Harpoon falls into the same generic category as rifle bullets and hand grenades, so Washington went ahead and gifted the Jewish State with more than fifty nuclear-capable Harpoons. The nuclear warheads for these missiles can be either American or homegrown Dimona products, but no matter which, Israel had to make it known that the nuclear capability was real, for there is no point making a nuclear threat if you cannot back it up with real nuclear muscle. This was achieved by leaking the information through high profile Israeli media assets, who initially plastered the information all over the Internet. This completed stage one of the exercise, which then had to be swiftly followed by a quasi-official statement of absolute deniability. Think about this one carefully people, think about it very carefully. If Damascus or Tehran should suddenly turn into heat and light any time soon, the Israelis will instantly get the blame, in the first place because of their leaked high-profile threats, and secondly because of their known hatred of anything even remotely related to Islam or Arabs. We did not have very long to wait for this on the record deniability statement, which was issued less than 24-hours after the initial threats. Former Israeli deputy defence minister
[CTRL] Too many Journalists parrot the establishment's spin on 9/11
-Caveat Lector- http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/1740/?PHPSESSID=aeb94088c1423cb3fc65af22c2efa4fd Too many Journalists parrot the establishment's spin on 9/11 by Paul Donovan (Friday, October 24, 2003) The willingness of journalists to accepts the establishment's view of events during and after 9/11 is truly staggering. One of the major weaknesses of journalism today is how easily some are seduced by power. The premier role of the journalist should be as a check on power; however, many seem to turn this dictum on its head and seek greater job satisfaction as parrots of the official truth. Nowhere is this tendency more prevalent than amongst Parliamentary lobby correspondents in Westminster. It has been the supine nature of many of these individuals that has allowed the likes of Alastair Campbell and his cohorts to become so powerful in spinning their version of events to the wider world. There is much rubbish given our about spin when what it really amounts to is putting an emphasis on a story that is favourable to a valued contact and acceptable to the owner of the media organization concerned. The easiest spinning comes, of course, when the interests of the source and the owner coincide. The ease with which journalists are seduced by the powerful was nicely illustrated recently by Simon Hoggart in the Guardian. Hoggart went into some detail as to why Dr. David Kelly could not have been murdered. Justifying the depth of his analysis, he stated I mention this only because the internet mill, favoured by Michael Meacher in his researches into 9/11, will no doubt grind out more conspiracy theories. Hoggart continued, confirming his touching relationship with power, describing Lord Hutton's soft, educated almost beguiling Ulster accent. In these few words Hoggart proved himself to be completely taken in by the establishment figure whilst dismissing anyone, like Meacher, who might suggest the whole train of events that led to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan had more than a touch of coincidence to them. For those who inhabit a world outside of the Parliamentary lobby, the views expressed by Meacher as to the way the whole 9/11 scenario and what followed so easily fitted with the Bush administration's agenda is anything but conspiratorial. In his piece Meacher quoted from sources across the media including the Times, the Daily Telegraph, Newsweek, the BBC and Time magazine. His crime for establishment journalists is in putting together the various pieces of information to come up with a credible rationale for what has happened over the past two years. The fact that the account seems so incredible is reflective of how poorly others have done their jobs in terms of informing the public. Meacher is not the first to raise questions regarding the sequence of events post-9/11. John Pilger and Noam Chomsky have consistently exposed the truth and put the sequence of events of the past two years in context. Another is American writer (and confidante of the late President John F. Kennedy), Gore Vidal, who in the Observer last year suggested that George W. Bush will be impeached for his handling of 9/11 and events thereafter. In his excellent book, Dreaming War, Vidal continues to ask crucial questions that until recently have been swept under the carpet. He quotes at some length from retired U.S. army veteran Stan Goff, who taught military science and doctrine at West Point. Goff is astonished that people are not asking questions about the actions of Bush and company on the day of the attacks. As some will remember, Bush went to a school on that day to talk to the children. In the U.S. there is a standard order of procedure that once a plane has deviated from its flight plan, fighter planes are sent up to find out why. The planes are all hijacked between 7:45 and 8:10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time. Who is notified? This is an event already that is unprecedented. But the president is not notified and [is] going to a Florida elementary school to hear children read, says Goff. By around 8:15 a.m. it should be very apparent that something is terribly wrong. The President is glad-handing teachers. By 8:45 when American Airlines Flight 11 crashes into the World Trade Centre, Bush is settling in with children for his photo ops at Booker Elementary. Four planes have obviously been hijacked simultaneously, an event never before seen in history, and one has just dived into the world's best-known twin towers, and still no-one notifies the nominal Commander in Chief. At 9:03 a.m. the second plane crashes into the World Trade Centre. Bush is told but continues with his school visit. Some 25 minutes later Bush tells the public what they know already; namely, that there has been an attack by hijacked planes on the World Trade Centre. At this time, an airliner is heading for Washington DC, but still no fighter planes have been scrambled. At 9:35 one of the hijacked planes does a 360-degree turn over the Pentagon, all
[CTRL] Looters in the White House
-Caveat Lector- http://www.unknownnews.net/031023a-llo.html Looters in the White House by Liberez L'Ours, Unknown News Oct. 23, 2003 Is it a rat I smell? No. Worse ... It is the aroma of the Bush Regime preparing to loot the USA as never before ... as never before even imagined! Here's the deal: Fannie Mae (FNM, Federal National Mortgage Association) and Freddie Mac (FRE, Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation) are pseudo-government agencies that fund mortgages in a big way. They are actually private companies but have the implicit backing of the US government and have parlayed that implicit backing into outstanding debts of $1.5 trillion dollars. Those debts are leveraged 50:1, by the way, meaning that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have 2% collateral supporting their merry business. This summer, accounting scandals rocked Freddie, and neither company is required by law to make normal corporate disclosures to the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) -- even though their stock trades on the New York Stock Exchange! It gets even worse: they are regulated by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)! Ho ho. And ... their business has involved lending huge sums of money at the lowest interest rates in 40 years, with derivative wagers used to offset the risk of rising interest rates. But with 50:1 leverage, a tiny error would wipe out their balance sheets. That is where the fun really begins. You see, the U.S. dollar has been tanking, big time, thanks to the Bush Regime treating the U.S. Treasury like its own piggy bank or rather, behaving like a military junta in a banana republic. Right now people aren't freaking out about the U.S. dollar falling because foreign countries still recycle their export earnings back into U.S. debts, such as debts of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. You can tell the worry factor is small because, though the dollar is falling, interest rates are stable. If and when the disaster hits, the dollar will fall and the stock markets will fall but interest rates will rise. And when that day happens, a mere 2% jump in interest rates that Fannie and Freddie cannot hedge away will mean that they are technically broke. Now, the government won't really want to allow Fannie and Freddie to stop creating mortgages, but according to the latest news, Congress isn't particularly interested in restructuring these casino-like corporations either. From the Bush Regime's perspective, it will be better to allow Fannie and Freddie to fail momentarily, and then swoop in and seize the assets which can then be salvaged with money from the U.S. Treasury, and re-sold to FOB (Friends of Bush) for pennies on the dollar. Nice theory? Crazy? Well, that's basically what happened in the Savings and Loan crisis. Pennies on the dollar, baby. Hundreds of billions of dollars in free profits to connected insiders (anyone who wants to see the correct details, send an email...). Historians will recall the name of Neil Bush in the SL debacle. Neil Bush served no jail time for that, either. He's still in business, but of course he'll never be able to run for public office. Why? Because he is a crook? No, because he got caught. (Heheh.) www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Truth, Lies, and The Legend of 9/11
-Caveat Lector- There's Something About Omar: Truth, Lies, and The Legend of 9/11 by Chaim Kupferberg www.globalresearch.ca , 21 October 2003 What follows is a reconstruction of one of the most extensive disinformation campaigns in history, and the chronicle of a legend that may now shine a devastating spotlight on some of the cliques behind 9/11 - and the FBI Director covering the paper trails. http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP310A.html (280k - text) www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] 9/11 Conspiracy Theory Books Dominate Debate at Frankfurt Book Fair
-Caveat Lector- http://new.globalfreepress.com/article.pl?sid=03/10/10/2212209 posted by ewing2001 on Friday October 10, @11:00AM from the Deutsche-Welle dept. 9/11 Conspiracy Theory Books Dominate Debate at Frankfurt Book Fair Deutsche Welle -October 10 At the Frankfurt Book Fair, 9/11 conspiracy theory books are a hot topic of conversation. And three books -- all by German authors -- are topping the country's bestseller list. Why are the works such a focus of interest? At this year's Frankfurt Book Fair, the world's largest gathering of publishers, editors and writers, everyone's talking about 9/11 conspiracy theory books. Organizers may have highlighted Russia as the official country of this year's conference, but it's the United States -- particularly its role in 9/11 -- that has captured the popular imagination. Three books, all by German authors currently topping the German bestseller list, are conspiracy theory accounts about 9/11. Perhaps the most famous of the bunch is written by Andreas von Bülow entitled The CIA and September 11 . A former government minister of Research and Technology, von Bülow suggests that U.S. and Israeli intelligence services blew up the World Trade Center from the inside and that the two planes were flown in by remote control. Why? This, quite obviously to von Bülow, was part of a plot by the neoconservatives to give the Bush administration the necessary cover to launch an attack against Iraq and, ultimately, take over the world. Perhaps von Bülow could be dismissed as a one-off crack-pot, if there weren't so many others peddling similar tales of deleterious intent. Von Bülow is joined by fellow authors Mathias Bröckner and Gerhard Wisnewski. Wisnewski, in his book Operation 9/11, also believes that the towers were toppled using explosives, and Bröckner, in Conspiracies, Conspiracy Theories and the Secrets of September 11th, offers, as the title suggests, a similar catalogue of such notions. Profits driving publishing buzz Clearly, writers making such allegations are open to criticism. And the best means of isolating themselves from attack would be to rely on iron-clad sources and systematically substantiate each and every one of their claims. Yet, these books largely rely on dubious sources, and that is why they have become a subject of debate at this year's book fair. Editors are not only debating the validity of the claims made by von Bülow and friends, but they are debating whether the publishing industry is doing itself a disservice by distributing work based on questionable reporting. Klaus Stadler, the editor of Piper Publishers, which published von Bulow's book, knew his company would face criticism. We told ourselves that we would take it seriously, but we do not feel obligated to independently check each and every detail, Stadler told Deutsche Welle. And my own personal position is that Mr. von Bülow poses a number of very interesting and important questions. The answers to these questions should be weighed by responsible readers, who should take time to consider them. We don't want to patronize people. Others, however, who have observed the German book industry of late, believe that the drive to increase profits is what has prompted publishers to accept and distribute such books. They are likely to sell, and in a competitive market -- 90,000 new titles appear every year -- publishers must take on ever more spectacular tomes in an effort to gain an edge over their competitors. The pressure to be successful has increased, Christoph Heimann, from German bookstore Börsenblatt said. And that might help explain why some books that are appearing today might not have appeared five or six years ago -- or at least not so quickly. Conspiracy theories finding increasing takers? But it's not just the publishers who have shown interest in the conspiracy theory books. A recent poll published in German weekly newspaper Die Zeit, found one in five Germans believe Bush orchestrated 9/11 as a pretext to further his aims of world domination. In some ways, these books are not entirely out of the ordinary in Germany. They are simply an extreme example of books and journalism critical of the U.S. government, which increasingly resonates with the German public. Michael Moore's Stupid White Men, a biting criticism of the Bush administration, has enjoyed great success. German editorials and magazines too have hinted that a sinister plot -- though perhaps not so malefic as suggested by von Bülow -- is behind the Bush administration's foreign policy. In a cover story earlier this year, respected German news magazine Der Spiegel suggested that U.S. policy, largely influenced by the oil industry and the religious right, was driven by a desire to control the world. Top 20 German 9/11 Sites (compiled by ewing2001, October 2003) http://www.broeckers.com http://www.medienanalyse-international.de http://www.911truth.org http://www.osamaskidneys.com
Re: [CTRL] New World Order Quotes
-Caveat Lector- William Shannon wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://www.freedomdomain.com/nwoquote.htm Ron Paul Admits Conspiracy to Create World Government from: http://911exposed.com/ and http://www.propagandamatrix.com/260903ronpaul.html Eric Rainbolt - audience member asking question of Congressman Paul at event near Austin, Texas on August 30th, Congressman Paul, I have a question... Moderator: Over here (pointing to Eric Rainbolt.) Eric Rainbolt: Great! If we can take a look at the big picture, could you tell us, the people in this room, any information that you may have of an international and deceptive conspiracy to overthrow the American Republic and its Constitution Bill Of Rights in order to set up and usher in a totalitarian World Government likely espoused under the UN also.. Congressman Paul: He asked if there was an international conspiracy to overthrow our government. The answer is 'Yes'. I think there are 25,000 individuals that have used offices of powers, and they are in our Universities and they are in our Congresses, and they believe in One World Government. And if you believe in One World Goverment, then you are talking about undermining National Sovereignty and you are talking about setting up something that you could well call a Dictatorship - and those plans are there! RealPlayer http://www.free911dvd.com/TruthTV.ram Windows Media Format http://free911dvd.netfirms.com/RonPaul-NewWorldOrder.wmv www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) MSNBC: Positive test for terror toxins in Iraq
-Caveat Lector- So a toxin derived from castor beans - a trace of which was found on soles of a boot - is Saddam's big, bad WMD threat? klewis wrote: --- Forwarded message follows --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.msnbc.com/news/895185.asp?0sl=-32 Positive test for terror toxins in Iraq EXCLUSIVE By Preston Mendenhall, MSNBC MSNBC.com tests reveal evidence of the deadly toxins ricin and botulinum at a laboratory in a remote mountain region of northern Iraq allegedly used as a terrorist training camp by Islamic militants with ties to the al-Qaida terrorist network. The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency is conducting its own tests at the same area, but has not yet released the results, according to officials in northern Iraq. MSNBC.COM'S TESTS were conducted over a two-day period at Sargat, an alleged terrorist training camp a mile from the Iraq-Iran border. The camp, set back in an isolated valley and surrounded by snowcapped peaks, was home to the radical Islamic militant group Ansar al-Islam, which counts among its some 700 followers scores of al-Qaida fighters. In a Feb. 5 speech to the U.N. Security Council, U.S. Secretary ofState Colin Powell showed a satellite photo of the Sargat camp and described Ansar al-Islam as teaching its operatives how to produce ricin and other poisons. U.S. officials have repeated the allegations in recent weeks. In an operation timed to coincide with the war on Iraq,U.S. special operations forceshave targeted Ansar al-Islam's militants in northern Iraq. Hundreds of Islamists, including al-Qaida fighters who took refuge in northern Iraq after the fall of the Taliban in Afghanistan, have been killed. Although U.S. officials for months have leveled charges that the Ansar al-Islam and al-Qaida militants were producing poisons in northern Iraq, it wasn't until this week that specialist American teams were able to gain access to the Sargat camp to test for traces ofbiological and chemical weapons. Experts believe the Islamic group was producing the substances in the camp as both toxins can be created from everyday products and simple procedures. TERRORISTS TEMPTED BY TOXINS MSNBC.com's samples of ricin and botulinum, two deadly biological agents, were taken from the soles of a boot and a shoe recovered from the Sargat camp. The facility has been flattened by several Tomahawk cruise missiles, fired as part of the U.S. campaign against Ansar al-Islam. The thick rubber boot twice tested positive for ricin, a toxin derived from castor beans. Ingesting a pinch of ricin, which causes shock and respiratory failure, can kill a human being within 72 hours. There is no cure. A black running shoe, shredded by the U.S. bombing, tested positive for botulinum. U.S. officials say terrorists have a particular interest in botulinum and ricin toxins, which may be delivered through release in food and water. Botulism, the illness resulting from botulinum ingestion, is a muscle- paralyzing disease that can cause a person to stop breathing and die, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control. Since Sept. 11, 2001, law enforcement officials have seen an increase in attempts to produce deadly toxins like ricin and botulinum. In Britain, anti-terrorism authorities in January charged four men with producing deadly agents after they found traces of ricin in a north London apartment. More than a dozen arrests have been made in the investigation. On Thursday, the FBI issued a warning to Americans that deadly agents like ricin and botulinum could be used to contaminate the nation's water or food supply. And in France, police are on alert after recently finding traces of ricin in flasks in a train station locker in Paris. The territory of northern Iraq where the traces of ricin were detected is not under the control of Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. Baghdad admitted to U.N. weapons inspectors in the 1990s that it had successfully weaponized ricin, botulinum and anthrax. There is no immediate evidence that suggests Saddam's regime provided the easily produced toxins to Ansar al-Islam or al-Qaida. A test for anthrax at the Sargat camp gave a negative result. WIDELY USED TEST The tests, developed by Osborn Scientific Group in Lakeside, Ariz., are widely admired by experts. Called BioWarfare Agent Detection Devices, they were used by U.N. weapons inspectors in Iraq before their departure ahead of the U.S.-led war against Saddam. Dr. Robert Bohannon, the inventor of the test, said in a phone interview that numerous U.S. federal agencies employ the tests in the field. He said the tests were developed to give a rapid yes-no result. In recent days, specialist chemical-biological survey teams, some from the CIA, have collected samples from camps used by Islamic militants in northern Iraq. At least two teams visited the Sargat camp, taking similar rapid fields tests and
[CTRL] Gas Baghdad, blame Saddam
-Caveat Lector- This assertion (about a possible use of UW by the coalition) explains: a) why the military campaign's been so poorly prepared; b) why there aren't enough ground forces for its realisation; c) why reserves are far from the battleground and, correspondingly, won't be able to approach it in the moment when unconventional weapons are used, something that'll spare unnecessary coalition victims; d) why a force that's not enough to capture the city, is longing towards Baghdad, in spite of an impossibility of taking over the town with such forces; e) why exactly in the final stage of the attack an outrageously false information of victories in the operation, has started to be fed - exactly so as to present the use of UW as a desperate gesture on behalf of the defenders. April 3rd, 2003 http://www.irakwar.ru/iraq-read_article.php?articleId=1555lang=en About A Possible Use of Unconventional Weapons in the Conflict Between Iraq and the Anglo-American Coalition Today a feeling of concern wouldn't leave since the morning. 1. The war's been planned, especially, as an elimination of Iraq's UW. 2. Routinely since the beginning of the conflict, the coalition's asserting that Saddam's going to use UW, although the only place where he could succeed in doing so, is his own territory. 3. In recent reports the coalition speaks of a 95% probability of its (UW's) use (a precise probability! not clear how exactly counted), and about a certain red line around the city, although it's obvious that the use of chemical weapons in one's own capital is a suicide of the regime, and something Saddam shall never do. 4. The coalition's forces weren't enough even to capture a single town, excluding the scarcely populated regional seaport Umm-Qasr. 5. The ground forces' insufficiency has been revealed as early as after a week of fighting, in the beginning of the battle for Nasiriya, when the coalition's troops had to retreat for a day to regroup. However, in spite of the necessity of reinforcement with reserves, troops were sent round the town, without capturing it, and such a tactic has been observed during the entire course of the operation. 6. The impossibility of seizing any specific town is being ignored, and a movement towards a next town up north happens, up-stream the Euphrates. 7. In spite of the insufficiency of the ground forces and reserves present in the combat area that could enter combat immediately, the troops are shoving towards Baghdad. 8. To capture a city such as Baghdad, at least an equality in the numbers of the attacking and defending, is needed, something that really isn't there. 9. Despite an amassing superiority in the air, use of aviation and armoured vehicles inside a city is difficult, without carpet bombings and a complete destruction of the defending living blocks. 10. The only possible choice for attackers to win - is to use weapons of mass destruction. Having claimed the enemy's used it. 11. It's obvious that Iraq's inability to use nuclear weapons leads to a simple conclusion - Iraq's application of chemical or bacteriological weapons on a large scale. 12. Because it'd be impossible to find out the producer of chemical weapons used on the battlefield, there's absolutely no doubt that its use is going to be written off to the insane malicious tyrant, who's already used it in the past. And who won't forgo losing lives of the town's civilians. 13. This assertion (about a possible use of UW by the coalition) explains: a) why the military campaign's been so poorly prepared; b) why there aren't enough ground forces for its realisation; c) why reserves are far from the battleground and, correspondingly, won't be able to approach it in the moment when unconventional weapons are used, something that'll spare unnecessary coalition victims; d) why a force that's not enough to capture the city, is longing towards Baghdad, in spite of an impossibility of taking over the town with such forces; e) why exactly in the final stage of the attack an outrageously false information of victories in the operation, has started to be fed - exactly so as to present the use of UW as a desperate gesture on behalf of the defenders. 14. It's obvious that a very narrow circle of people is initiated into the plan of use of chemical weapons - that explains the appearance of conflicts between the military and political command of the entire operation. The military haven't been cleared on the true reason of their movements towards Baghdad. 15. This explains an absolute confidence in victory after two weeks of protracted battles without capturing cities, without much-needed reserves and without a sufficient number of troops to storm the city. 16. A quick ending to the operation and its justifying in the eyes of the world community shall make up for the losses that the coalition suffered and shall suffer as a result of using UW on its own troops. 17. Furthermore, it shall allow to hide any previous combat
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: CAS: British Link Iraq to al-Qaeda
-Caveat Lector- klewis wrote: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/3/28/90101.shtml British intelligence officers have learned that up to a dozen al-Qaeda volunteers were fighting alongside the pro-Baghdad guerrilla forces in As Zubaya, a town outside Basra. Russian intel reports that since Bush's illegal conquest of Iraq began, Islamic radicals from all over Eurasia have come to Iraq to fight alongside the so-called pro-Baghdad guerrilla forces. The fact that some of these Islamic radicals that have come to Iraq to fight alongside the pro-Baghdad guerrilla forces happen to al-Qaeda should surprise no one. Obviously, al-Qaeda members in Iraq are not fighting for Saddam as much as they're fighting against Anglo-American imperialism in the Middle East. They would be fighting alongside guerrilla forces if this illegal invasion had taken place in Iran, Syria, Libya, etc., or any of the Mid-East countries on the 'neocon' wish list. Implying that al-Qaeda presence in war-torn Iraq signifies a link between Saddam and 9-11 is absurd. Hell, its been a year and a half since 9-11 and I'm still waiting for them to present any type of compelling evidence that links al-Qaeda itself to 9-11! A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Allies not telling truth - things are going wrong
-Caveat Lector- http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3300530 Allies not telling truth - things are going wrong Robert Fisk (26.03.2003) So far, the Anglo-American armies are handing their propaganda to the Iraqis on a plate. First, on Sunday, we were told - courtesy of the BBC - that Umm Qasr, the tiny Iraqi seaport on the Gulf, had fallen. Why cities have to fall on the BBC is a mystery to me; the phrase comes from the Middle Ages when city walls literally collapsed under siege. Then we were told - again on the BBC - that Nasiriyah had been captured. Then its embedded correspondent informed us - and here my old journalistic suspicions were alerted - that it had been secured. Why the BBC should use the military expression secured is also a mystery to me. Secured is meant to sound like captured but almost invariably means that a city has been bypassed or half-surrounded or, at the most, that an invading Army has merely entered its suburbs. And sure enough, within 24 hours, the Shia Muslim city west of the junction of the Euphrates and Tigress Rivers proved to be very much unsecured, indeed had not been entered in any form - because at least 500 Iraqi troops, supported by tanks, were still fighting there. With what joy did Taha Yassin Ramadan, the Iraqi Vice-President, inform us all that they claimed they had captured Umm Qasr but now you know this is a lie. With what happiness did Mohamed Said al-Sahaff, the Iraqi Information Minister, boast that Basra was still in Iraqi hands, that our forces in Nasiriyah were still fighting. And well could they boast because, despite all the claptrap put out by the Americans and British in Qatar, what the Iraqis said on this score was true. The usual Iraqi claims of downed US and British aircraft - four supposedly shot down around Baghdad and another near Mosul - were given credibility by the Iraqi ability to prove the collapse of their forces in the south was untrue - quite apart from the film of prisoners. We know that the Americans are again using depleted uranium munitions in Iraq, just as they did in 1991. But yesterday, the BBC told us that US Marines had called up an A-10 strike aircraft to deal with pockets of resistance - a bit more military-speak from the BBC - but failed to mention that the A-10 uses depleted uranium rounds. So for the first time since 1991, we - the West - are spraying these uranium aerosols in battlefield explosions in southern Iraq, and we're not being told. Why not? And where, for God's sake, does that wretched, utterly dishonest phrase coalition forces come from? There is no coalition in this Iraq war. There are the Americans and the British and a few Australians. That's it. The coalition of the 1991 Gulf War does not exist. The coalition of nations willing to help with this illegitimate conflict includes, by a vast stretch of the imagination, even Costa Rica and Micronesia and, I suppose, poor old neutral Ireland, with its transit rights for US military aircraft at Shannon. But they are not coalition forces. Why does the BBC use this phrase? Even in World War II, which so many journalists think they are now reporting, we didn't use this lie. When we landed on the coast of North Africa in Operation Torch, we called it an Anglo-American landing. And this is an Anglo-American war, whether we - and I include the embedded ones - like it or not. The Iraqis are sharp enough to remember all this. At first, they announced that captured US or British troops would be treated as mercenaries, a decision that Saddam himself wisely corrected yesterday when he stated that all prisoners would be treated according to the Geneva Convention. All in all, then, it has not been a great couple of days for Bush and Blair. Nor, of course, for Saddam although he's been playing at wars for almost half the lifetime of Blair. So here's a question from one who believed, only a week ago, that Baghdad might just collapse and that we might wake up one morning to find the Baathist militia and the Iraqi Army gone. If the Iraqis can still hold out against such overwhelming force in Umm Qasr for four days, if they can keep fighting in Basra and Nasiriyah, why should Saddam's forces not keep fighting in Baghdad? Of course, this might all be a miscalculation. The pack of cards may be more flimsy that we think. But suddenly, the quick and easy war, the conflict of shock and awe, doesn't seem so realistic. Things are going wrong. We are not telling the truth. And the Iraqis are riding high on it all. - INDEPENDENT A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and
Re: [CTRL] More Bush/Cheney Crimes
-Caveat Lector- Steve Wingate wrote: Thorn in the side of the American administration, and former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter, has warned that America will loose the Iraq war and the American military: will leave Iraq with its tail between its legs. http://www.gulufuture.com/news/scott_ritter030325.htm Vincent Browne: Scott Ritter... are you surprised by how the assault in Iraq is going? Scott Ritter: No actually, I wrote a paper that was published last Fall, that predicted just this. And i'm a little disturbed in listening to some of the analysis going along here. I think that one of the reasons the American find themselves in such difficulties in Iraq, is that so many in the Pentagon have listened to the... blithering of Iraqi expatriots who have spoken out --rightly so-- against Saddam Hussein, and who think that it's a) the role of the United States to liberate Iraq; and b) think that the Iraqi people want us to liberate them from Saddam. And I think that the harsh reality is that in buying off on the expectations of being greeted in the streets of Iraq with song and flowers... we now find we are being greeted with bullets and bombs. And it's the Shia in the south who are fighting us. They're not doing it because Chemical Ali is down there with his death squads threatening to execute 'em. They're doing it because, the American Crusader Infidel has invaded and violated Holy Iraq, and they will resist us, and they will resist us strongly. And no matter how many Iraqi's we kill and slaughter, I predict that America will loose this war and ultimately the American military will leave Iraq with its tail between its legs. Unfortunately, we're going to inflict a tremenduous amount of death and destruction on the people of Iraq; the American soldiers and Marines will also pay a price. And all those who sit outside of Iraq and courageously encourage Americans to go in and slaughter Iraqi's should be ashamed of themselves. Vincent Browne: ...You think the Americans will loose this war? Scott Ritter: We lost Vietnam Remember we can kill many, many Iraqui's and we will do so. But I am telling you right now, that we do not have sufficient combat power in Iraq --as we speak-- to win this battle. So we will have to reinforce considerably. The current posture, in terms of American deployment, is predicated on a presumption that the Iraqi Army would surrender; that the Iraqi people would welcome; that the internsational community would support. The exact opposite is happening. And now we find ourselves with fewer than 120,000 boots on the ground; facing a nation of 23 million, with armed elements numbering around 7 million --who are concentrated at urban areas. We will not win this fight. America will loose this war. Saddam Hussein may die... But you know what? I'm betting that Saddam's gonna be around a lot longer than anyone can predict. I'm betting that we don't capture Bhagdad. I'm betting that we stall outside Bhagdad. I'm betting that this becomes an absolute quagmire. I hope I'm wrong, for the sake of the American lives that are going to be lost. Remember I'm a 12 year veteran of the Marine Corps. I fought in the first Gulf War. I know what war is about. I know what defending my country is about. This is a bad war, because it has nothing to do with the defense of the United States of America. Iraq doesn't have weapons of mass destruction. The Bush Administration has pulled an enormous lie to the international community; to the American people. And now we're in Iraq --carrying out the right-wing neo-conservative motives of a handful of people; the Richard Perle's, Paul Wolfowitz's; the Dick Cheney's. And we've allowed them to hijack our foreign policy. And they've been cheered on by these Iraqi expatriots, who have zero credibility in my eyes. They're so brave and they want Iraq liberated... Then my goodness man, go to Iraq... fight and die for your country... But don't ask Americans to do it. Listen to full Gulf War Analysis Segment Audio - 25 minutes Realplayer rtsp://streaming2.rte.ie/2003/0324/tonightvb.ra?start=%2200:14:00%22end=%2201:00:00%22 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Am I getting this right?
-Caveat Lector- All right, let me see if I understand the logic of this correctly. We are going to ignore the United Nations in order to make clear to Saddam Hussein that the United Nations cannot be ignored. We're going to wage war to preserve the UN's ability to avert war. The paramount principle is that the UN's word must be taken seriously, and if we have to subvert its word to guarantee that it is, then by gum, we will. Peace is too important not to take up arms to defend. Am I getting this right? Further, if the only way to bring democracy to Iraq is to vitiate the democracy of the Security Council, then we are honor-bound to do that too, because democracy, as we define it, is too important to be stopped by a little thing like democracy as they define it. Also, in dealing with a man who brooks no dissension at home, we cannot afford dissension among ourselves. We must speak with one voice against Saddam Hussein's failure to allow opposing voices to be heard. We are sending our gathered might to the Persian Gulf to make the point that might does not make right, as Saddam Hussein seems to think it does. And we are twisting the arms of the opposition until it agrees to let us oust a regime that twists the arms of the opposition. We cannot leave in power a dictator who ignores his own people. And if our people, and people elsewhere in the world, fail to understand that, then we have no choice but to ignore them. - PETER FREUNDLICH A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) [I-S] I was a naive fool to be a human shield for Saddam
-Caveat Lector- klewis wrote: Anyone with half a brain must see that Saddam has to be taken out. It is extraordinarily ironic that the anti-war protesters are marching to defend a government which stops its people exercising that freedom. Deep down everyone agrees that Saddam is a tyrant, and Iraqis would be better off if he were taken out. Its a matter of legitimacy. If it was proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Saddam had stashes of WMD, that he was supplying terrorists with WMD, etc., then perhaps, within the pretext of the war on terror, this invasion would be legit. It's not about whether Bush has the power to topple Saddam, it's whether he has the legitimate right to. If Saddam is going to be taken out, he needs to be taken out within the established bounds of law and justice, not on the whim of the US prez. It's an absurdity for Bush to claim he going to enforce international law and treaties, and take out Saddam; while at the same time he violates numerous international laws and treaties in order to take him out. This is an attempt to falsify the very nature of things. It is, in short, the assumption of a right to banish the principle of justice itself, from off the earth, and set up Bush's own personal will, pleasure, and interest in its place. War is the greatest of all crimes - the prime evil. It is only justified in self-defense. This pre-emptive war is not in self defense. It is evil no matter how noble the professed intentions may be. That's something worth protesting over (being a human shield for Saddam is taking it a bit too far though). A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Iraqi Scuds were US, sea-launched cruise missiles
-Caveat Lector- http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news070.htm At least two of the eight supposedly Iraqi missiles that hit Kuwait turned out to be US sea-launched cruise missiles that strayed off course. This can be clearly seen even from the craters left in the ground by the explosions of these missiles. After detonation the Scud warhead leaves a crater as much as 8 meters deep. What was observed in Kuwait, however, is the typical crater left by the detonation of a cruise missiles warhead. The story with the rest of the Iraqi missile launches is also unclear. Experts are leaning toward a possibility that the explosions in the Kuwaiti border regions were caused not by missiles but by 120-mm mortar shells fired by the Iraqi mobile units. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] In regards to 911 we find the Israelis involved with many things
-Caveat Lector- http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=2Board=cage; Number=503742page=view=collapsedsb=5o=21vc=1t=0 The Mountain of Evidence! So in regards to 911 we find the Israelis involved with many things. . . . 1. It was Israelis who were caught watching the WTC burn and crumble and celebrating it with joy. . . . 2. It was Israelis whose van was stopped and maps and other paraphernalia were found leading the FBI to believe that they had definite involvement with 911. 3. It was the Israeli owner of the Moving van company that immediately shutdown his business, put his house up for sale and fled to Israel when his employees were caught. Arent these drastic actions and shouldnt we want to know why the owner behaved that way? 4. It was Israelis who were caught spying on the US and lived in the same vicinity as the supposed hijackers. 5. It was Israelis who were part of a spy ring that Carl Cameron reported about in Foxx News saying that government officials stated that they had tie-ins to 911. By the way this news was suppressed and the story taken off the Foxx News website. The people responsible for that were JINSA (the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs). JINSA President and CEO David Steinmann is also a director of CAMERA (Committee for Accurate Middle East Reporting in America), the group that actually staged the e-mail, fax, letter, and phone call mobilization that squeezed Fox TV, to the point that they removed the transcripts of the four Carl Cameron segments from their own web site. . . . 6. It was Israelis who the following was reported about by U.S. government authorities when the Israeli spies were found: An Israeli government spokesman reported a few days ago the news of arresting a number of Israelis by the US intelligence bodies in Florida. This might seem strange but what is more significant is the deliberate ignorance by the Israeli government of the reason for the arrests. The Israelis did not even mention the reason or the case for which their subjects were detained. The point is that a big quantity of the Anthrax germ was held with the Israelis when they were arrested. Moreover, the detainees had 15 charts of the New York Trade Center and eight charts of the Pentagon building which were attacked on September 11th. This is in addition to other six charts of the White House, which was among the would-be targets of the September 11th attacks. According to discreet US reports, the charts found with the Israelis had accurately drawn the Pentagon building and the World Trade Center and defined their geometric projections, as well as, precisely depicted the many floors. Further, some data included in the charts define the itineraries of civil passenger planes and their destinations!!!... 7. It was Israelis who the Jerusalem Post reported about that 4000 were missing or expected to be dead as a result of doing business and working at the WTC on 911. 8. It was the Israeli general counsel Alon Pinkas who reported that out of the 4000 Israelis dead or missing actually only one was killed, a visitor. The statistics of this happening is IMPOSSIBLE. The only reason this could happen is if somehow Israelis were warned ahead of time about the planes crashing into the WTC. The natural question to ask is are there any evidence of prior warnings of the impending WTC attacks given to anyone in the world? If there is lets narrow the list down to see if any warnings happen to be given to Israelis. Well it just so happens that there were prior warnings and the only people in the world to receive them were Israelis 9. It was Israelis who received Odigo warnings two hours before the planes struck the WTC buildings. This was reported both in the Haaertz and Washington Post newspapers. This is proof positive that someone who cares for the lives of Israelis knew that planes were going to be crashed into the WTC ahead of time and wanted to make sure Israelis were not killed. I am sure the identity of that person was not Bin laden. This succinctly explains why only one Israeli got killed on 911 although the number was expected to be as much as 4000. 10. It was Israelis who were armed with 9mm pistols, nine grenades, explosives, three detonators and 58 bullets and caught in Mexico in an attempt to blow the Mexican Congress up on October 10, 2001. The Israelis were booked for conspiracy to destroy a building by means of an explosive by the Mexican police. If they were successful in blowing up the Mexican Congress then like 911 it would have been blamed on Muslim terrorists. They got caught red-handed here and only God knows how many other incidents that innocent Muslims are being blamed for that were really done by Israelis. 11. General Gul, who at one time was a close ally of the U.S. and a staunch supporter of western values, who could have blamed 911 on his Russian or Indian enemies but instead choose to blame 911 on Israelis. This former director of the Pakistani
[CTRL] LaGuardia Powder Incident (tests positive for anthrax)
-Caveat Lector- INCIDENT AT LAGUARDIA http://whatreallyhappened.com/lindex.html 3/22/03 LaGuardia Airport evacuated The central terminal of LaGuardia Airport was evacuated. It happened Friday when a gas mask and white powder were found in an Israeli woman's bag. She was traveling from Israel to Texas. The first test came up positive for anthrax, but a second test proved negative. http://whatreallyhappened.com/laguardiastory.htm 3/22/03 LaGuardia Powder Incident This seems to be the same story which was initially reported, then removed, on CNN. This version says the powder was harmless, but fails to say why the screeners still had to be decontaminated. Note that in this version of the story, the powder was found in a checked bag and the woman was on the plane before she could be questioned. 3/22/03 La Guardia: Ten People felt sick from powder Symptoms were minor 3/22/03 Ten people made ill by harmless powder 3/22/03 In this story, the powder was found on the Israeli woman's handbag, not the checked luggage So how did she escape arrest and get on the plane to Texas? 3/22/03 Another report on the harmless powder that made people ill. Again the report that the powder was found in the woman's handbag, so why wasn't the woman detained? 3/22/03 Powder was in 9 inch cylinder alongside gas mask. Screener developed rash on hands after handling. Powder and gasmask found in luggage but Israeli woman not detained, allowed to board plane to Texas. The Texas FBI won't return calls asking if the woman has actually been interviewed. The powder tests positive for anthrax, then is declared to be harmless, but ten people become sick and are treated, plus the screeners (one of whom gets a rash on his hands) are decontaminated. Why do I get the feeling that a staged terror attack to blame on Iraq just fell apart? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] US is hard at work to fool the world again
-Caveat Lector- RevCOAL wrote: Paul Meares wrote: I only wonder how long it takes the world to figure out just why the twelve(?) odd missiles that were purchased from North Korea by this North African Country You really need to invest in an atlas if you believe that Iraq is anywhere in the African continent... ;-) I didn't write that. It was a letter sent in by a reader to Rivero's site. I assumed the author was saying that missiles were intercepted on the way from N.Korea to a N.African country - not to Iraq - and these intercepted missiles (paid for by the cia?) were smuggled into Iraq by US or Israeli special forces, and launched by them to make it appear that Saddam had fired off some 'illegal' missiles; whereby justifying Bush's illegal invasion in the eyes of the international community. Much like reports by '91 vets saying US special forces set off the oil well fires in the last war, and blamed it on Saddam. I'm not saying that I believe this, or many of the other speculations in the letter. But there were a few underlying themes that seemed to make it worth passing on. I wonder, too, with all this talk of Saddam Hussein's having many 'body doubles', if he is reported dead how can we be sure that the body is really his, and not one of his doubles? Also amusing that when some researchers were questioning whether the Bin Laden in the post-9/11 videos was actually Bin Laden, they were quickly dismissed as 'conspiracy kooks' by the establishment types. Yet now these same establishment feebs promoting the Hussein 'body doubles' theory. Shameless hypocrites. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Geopolitical Grease and Death
-Caveat Lector- Dave wrote: Well he must like you. Ray is, after all, putting into practice what you preach - dissent. I suppose Ray just feels there is an inordinate amount of consensus reality being projected on this forum. His role is that of the nonconformists nonconformist. Translation: Ray was your garden-variety, establishment shill. A HREF=""www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=""Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Marine would serve time rather than serve bush
-Caveat Lector- I wouldnt go to war again as I have done to defend some lousy investment of the bankers. We should fight only for the defense of our home and the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. - Smedley Butler, USMC NEWS YOU WON'T FIND ON CNN http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2357.htm Marine would serve time rather than serve bush Michael Mayo March 20, 2003 This is the point where some confused souls -- mistaking paternalism for patriotism -- think we should all shut up, rally around the flag and stand behind President Bush, no matter what dark alley he's leading us down or how we feel about this war. These are not easy days for dissenters. But Travis Clark doesn't care. This is completely crazy, Clark said Wednesday, each minute bringing the United States closer to invasion of Iraq. We're about to step off a moral cliff. We're talking about bombing a whole region, killing lots of innocent people and inflaming things around the world. This is the time we as Americans should be questioning and reviewing everything that's happening, not just going along with everything the president says. Clark spent five years in the Marines on active duty, in Hawaii and Asia, but he will not serve a day more. Now he is willing to make a different sacrifice for the country he loves. He is ready to go to jail. He might be arrested in the next few days for an act of civil disobedience near the United States Courthouse in Fort Lauderdale, where several organizations plan to protest. We've told people to turn out at 5 p.m. the day the war starts, said Clark, 26, an activist with Peace South Florida. We've told people to bring their banners, posters, whistles and drums. We want to make a lot of noise. I think it'll be chaotic. Or he might be jailed if he formally breaks his military contract, which runs through 2004. Every day, he goes to his mailbox in Plantation wondering whether the papers summoning him from his 3-year call-up period will arrive. If they do, he will refuse reinstatement and apply for conscientious objector status. Clark moved to South Florida from Michigan last fall. He now works at a Starbucks, and you can make all the jokes you want about him being some latte liberal or cappuccino commie. Since he was quoted in a South Florida Sun-Sentinel story about conscientious objectors a few weeks ago, he's been called everything from a hippie to a terrorist. It's been kind of bizarre, Clark said. He said his transformation has been a gradual process, born of self-education and exposure to the world. It wasn't one moment where I said, that's it, I'm a pacifist, Clark said. I just started reading some different things and thinking. His influences include Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., Henry David Thoreau and George Orwell. Orwell came to his mind as he listened to President Bush's speech on Monday night. He couldn't help but notice how some of the language used to indict Saddam Hussein's regime (reckless aggression, thugs and killers) might also apply to the United States if bombs harm innocent civilians in Baghdad. And Clark wondered what would happen if American troops followed the same logic Bush demanded of Iraqi officers when Bush said, War crimes will be prosecuted ... and it will be no defense to say, `I was just following orders.' Totally hypocritical, Clark said. According to American military law, if a superior gives an unlawful order, you're not allowed to obey it. To me, invading Iraq would be unlawful. He noted how Bush is quick to trumpet U.N. resolutions as justification for war even as Bush has turned his back on the United Nations and even though the United States will violate the U.N. demilitarized zone along the Iraqi-Kuwait border to launch a ground attack. Clark now considers himself a different kind of freedom fighter, one who follows his conscience and not his commander in chief. His thoughts as the deadline approached? I'm excited in a way, because all the peace movements will kick up a step when the war starts. I'm pretty horrified, because Americans are for the most part supporting it and cheering it on. And I'm scared, because I've got a cousin and some friends in Kuwait. None of us know how this is going to turn out. Michael Mayo is the metro columnist for Broward County. He can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 954-356-4508. Copyright (c) 2003, South Florida Sun-Sentinel -- A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be
[CTRL] US is hard at work to fool the world again
-Caveat Lector- http://whatreallyhappened.com/letters.html So if anyone needs confirmation that Saddam is a threat, here it is: Scuds at Kuwait. So far six were supposedly launched. I am awaiting another six for Isr. Isn't it just great, our foreign minister a.downer already used them as proof that Saddam is just the liar he was said to be. Isn't it amazing, everyone thought that the us would attack big time and then just a quick little target of opportunity... And guess what? Here's the proof that bush was right and the world was wrong: six scuds! I only wonder how long it takes the world to figure out just why the twelve (?) odd missiles that were purchased from North Korea by this North African Country (paid for by the cia?) and that were intercepted and then quickly released could be the same ones now used by none other then the us or isr. spec. forces to give the world some of the massive overkill proof the world is bound to see within the next few days and weeks. ANY proof that Saddam had WMD's is suspicious from now on, we all know that the us and isr. forces have been deep inside Iraq for months, trying to bribe locals and obviously staging just the events that you are going to see in the coming days. The us wasn't able to provide the un with and real hard evidence, but now, as if by a miracle they have all these suspect sites where these wmd's are fabricated and stored... doesn't that beg the question? Hollywood has had months to prepare the slides and grapics and animations that we will be shown of bunkers loaded with chemicals etc. ANY scud, any chemical bio or nuke attack is now more likely to be set up by the same people that will N E E D them to be used to justify their wilful act of aggresion, them being the zionist lot behind the puppet bush. Oh, check how many times you'll hear the words: Oh, we seem to have lost him when interviews are being held, especialy when isr. or saddams non-guilt is being discussed... Be warned, the us is hard at work to fool the world again. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Iraq - The Torrent Of Deceit
-Caveat Lector- RENSE.COM Iraq - The Torrent Of Deceit By Robin Miller Liberal Slant.com c. 2003 All Rights Reserved 3-18-3 The Bush team's campaign for war on Iraq would have made Nazi master propagandist Joseph Goebbels proud. Fabrications are announced as facts. Lies are repeated until they displace the truth. Deception is the order of the day.[1] And demagoguery supplants democracy. Sadly, this deceit has born fruit: At least 60 percent of Americans think Iraq is close to having, or already has, nuclear weapons,[2] and more than half believe Saddam Hussein was personally involved in the September 11 atrocities,[3] although there's no significant evidence for either proposition. Even proof of the Bush team's duplicity doesn't derail the propaganda train. Case in point: Administration spokespeople have characterized testimony by Hussein Kamal, the director of Iraq's weapons program prior to his 1995 defection, as proving that Iraq still possesses chemical and biological weapons.[4] Now a transcript of Kamal's testimony has surfaced, and he actually said exactly the opposite--that he had personally ordered the destruction of all of Iraq's nonconventional weapons.[5] But Bush, Powell and the rest didn't miss a beat. Our government's propaganda began with the first Gulf War. Americans were told that Iraqi soldiers were pulling Kuwaiti babies from incubators to die, and that Iraq was massing hundreds of thousands of troops to invade Saudi Arabia. Both stories were fabrications. The incubator babies ruse, in particular, galvanized America. In October 1990 a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl, identified only as Nayirah and described as a refugee, appeared at a congressional hearing. She claimed that Iraqi soldiers had pulled hundreds of babies from hospital incubators and left them on the cold floor to die. It was all a lie cooked up by public relations powerhouse Hill Knowlton under a $12 million contract with the Kuwaiti aristocracy. Nayirah was actually the daughter of Kuwait's ambassador to the U.S. She had never been to the hospital she described.[6] (Of course, real babies died during the Gulf War when U.S. bombing knocked out Iraqi electrical supplies.[7] And real babies die today in Iraq because U.N. sanctions prohibit importing necessary medical equipment.[8]) And as for the first Bush administration's dire warnings that Iraq had massed 250,000 troops preparing to invade Saudi Arabia? Another lie. Jean Heller, an enterprising reporter for the St. Petersburg Times newspaper, persuaded her employer to buy two photographs from a Russian commercial satellite. Massed Iraqi troops were notably absent from the photos' panoramic expanse. The intelligence photographs allegedly showing the Iraqi formations remain classified to this day.[9] Now, fast forward to the present. (Pause briefly, though, to recall the leaks suggesting September 11 mastermind Mohammed Atta met an Iraqi agent in Prague.[10] Richard Perle, now deeply entrenched in Bush's circle, even claimed that Atta met Saddam Hussein himself in Baghdad: We have proof of that, and we are sure he wasn't just there for a holiday.[11]) Today, the administration's torrent of deceit flows unabated. Bush claims Iraq presents a nuclear threat, yet according to head U.N. nuclear weapons inspector Mohamed ElBaradei, three months of intrusive inspections have found no evidence or plausible indication of an Iraqi nuclear program--and documents allegedly describing Iraqi attempts to buy uranium in Niger were fabricated.[12] Bush calls Iraq's disarmament a charade, but Hans Blix, the chief chemical and biological weapons inspector who has found no evidence of either, insists that Iraq has undertaken a substantial measure of disarmament.[13] And South African disarmament experts visiting Iraq maintain it's doing its best.[14] Bush asks America to go to war based on secret evidence, but weapons inspectors complain that the intelligence given them by the U.S. has been garbage after garbage after garbage.[15] Insisting that Resolution 1441 gives the U.S. authority to attack Iraq unilaterally, Bush seems to feel he can wish away the historical record: After that measure was adopted, the U.N. ambassador of every Security Council member--including the U.S. and U.K.--affirmed that it didn't provide for automaticity--the resort to force without a further vote.[16] Nor does 1441 authorize member states to use all necessary means, the accepted language for military force.[17] (It should be unnecessary to observe that neither 1441 nor any prior resolution authorizes, or could authorize, forcible regime change in any country.) Bush continues to link Saddam with al Qaeda, even though the CIA, FBI and Britain's MI6 all disagree.[18] Bush invokes the U.N.'s failure to prevent genocide in Rwanda while concealing the reason for that failure: Washington's own opposition. (During his 2000 campaign, Bush expressly rejected the use of U.S. troops in Rwanda, even
[CTRL] Warmonger Explains War With Iraq To Peacenik
-Caveat Lector- RENSE.COM Warmonger Explains War With Iraq To Peacenik Author Unknown 3-18-3 Peacenik: Why did you say we are invading Iraq? Warmonger: We are invading Iraq because it is in violation of security council resolution 1441. A country cannot be allowed to violate security council resolutions. PN: But I thought many of our allies, including Israel, were in violation of more security council resolutions than Iraq. WM: It's not just about UN resolutions. The main point is that Iraq could have weapons of mass destruction, and the first sign of a smoking gun could well be a mushroom cloud over NY. PN: Mushroom cloud? But I thought the weapons inspectors said Iraq had no nuclear weapons. WM: Yes, but biological and chemical weapons are the issue. PN: But I thought Iraq did not have any long range missiles for attacking us or our allies with such weapons. WM: The risk is not Iraq directly attacking us, but rather terrorists networks that Iraq could sell the weapons to. PN: But couldn't virtually any country sell chemical or biological materials? We sold quite a bit to Iraq in the eighties ourselves, didn't we? WM: That's ancient history. Look, Saddam Hussein is an evil man that has an undeniable track record of repressing his own people since the early eighties. He gasses his enemies. Everyone agrees that he is a power-hungry lunatic murderer. PN: We sold chemical and biological materials to a power-hungry lunatic murderer? WM: The issue is not what we sold, but rather what Saddam did. He is the one that launched a pre-emptive first strike on Kuwait. PN: A pre-emptive first strike does sound bad. But didn't our ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie, know about and green-light the invasion of Kuwait? WM: Let's deal with the present, shall we? As of today, Iraq could sell its biological and chemical weapons to Al Qaida. Osama BinLaden himself released an audio tape calling on Iraqis to suicide attack us, proving a partnership between the two. PN: Osama Bin Laden? Wasn't the point of invading Afghanistan to kill him? WM: Actually, it's not 100% certain that it's really Osama Bin Laden on the tapes. But the lesson from the tape is the same: there could easily be a partnership between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein unless we act. PN: Is this the same audio tape where Osama Bin Laden labels Saddam a secular infidel? WM: You're missing the point by just focusing on the tape. Powell presented a strong case against Iraq. PN: He did? WM: Yes, he showed satellite pictures of an Al Qaeda poison factory in Iraq. PN: But didn't that turn out to be a harmless shack in the part of Iraq controlled by the Kurdish opposition? WM: And a British intelligence report... PN: Didn't that turn out to be copied from an out-of-date graduate student paper? WM: And reports of mobile weapons labs... PN: Weren't those just artistic renderings? WM: And reports of Iraqis scuttling and hiding evidence from inspectors... PN: Wasn't that evidence contradicted by the chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix? WM: Yes, but there is plenty of other hard evidence that cannot be revealed because it would compromise our security. PN: So there is no publicly available evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? WM: The inspectors are not detectives, it's not their JOB to find evidence. You're missing the point. PN: So what is the point? WM: The main point is that we are invading Iraq because resolution 1441 threatened severe consequences. If we do not act, the security council will become an irrelevant debating society. PN: So the main point is to uphold the rulings of the security council? WM: Absolutely. ... unless it rules against us. PN: And what if it does rule against us? WM: In that case, we must lead a coalition of the willing to invade Iraq. PN: Coalition of the willing? Who's that? WM: Britain, Turkey, Bulgaria, Spain, and Italy, for starters. PN: I thought Turkey refused to help us unless we gave them tens of billions of dollars. WM: Nevertheless, they may now be willing. PN: I thought public opinion in all those countries was against war. WM: Current public opinion is irrelevant. The majority expresses its will by electing leaders to make decisions. PN: So it's the decisions of leaders elected by the majority that is important? WM: Yes. PN: But George B- WM: I mean, we must support the decisions of our leaders, however they were elected, because they are acting in our best interest. This is about being a patriot. That's the bottom line. PN: So if we do not support the decisions of the president, we are not patriotic? WM: I never said that. PN: So what are you saying? Why are we invading Iraq? WM: As I said, because there is a chance that they have weapons of mass destruction that threaten us and our allies. PN: But the inspectors have not been able to find any such weapons. WM: Iraq is obviously hiding them. PN: You know this? How? WM: Because we know they had the weapons ten years
Re: [CTRL] Byrd
-Caveat Lector- From your postings, sounds like you believe Bush's words are almost as infallible and divinely inspired as those in the Bible. Ray Boeche wrote: No, you see, I, like George Bush, your Great Satan, am a Christian. In fact, I'm a priest in the Reformed Episcopal Church (that's the one that actually believes in the Bible as God's Word [The Bible is] an anthology of ancient literature that contains sublime wisdom along with barbaric histories and the war songs of tribes on the rampage. All this is taken as the literal Word and counsel of God, as it is by fundamentalist sects, which by and large know nothing of the history of the Bible, of how it was edited and put together. So we have with us the social menace of a huge population of intellectually and morally irresponsible people. [The Bible is a] translation of Hebrew and Greek documents composed between 900 B.C. and A.D. 120. There is no manuscript of the Old Testament; that is, of the Hebrew Scriptures, written in Hebrew, earlier than the Ninth Century B.C. But we know that these documents were first put together and recognized as the Holy Scriptures by a convention of rabbis held at Jamnia (Yavne) in Palestine shortly before A.D. 100. On their say-so. Likewise, the composition of the Christian Bible, which documents to include and which to drop, was decided by a council of the Catholic Church held in Carthage in the latter part of the Fourth Century. The point is that the books translated in the . . . Bible were declared canonical and divinely inspired by the authority (A) of the Synod of Jamnia and (B) of the Catholic Church, meeting in Carthage more than 300 years after the time of Jesus. It is thus that fundamentalist Protestants get the authority of their Bible from Jews who had rejected Jesus and from Catholics whom they abominate as the Scarlet Woman mentioned in Revelation. -- Alan Watts A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Education's Hidden Agenda
-Caveat Lector- John Taylor Gatto; audio interview Award winning teacher of 30 years says public schools hidden agenda is to produce good worker and consumer bees for corporate and economic benefit. Education used to be about developing the human character and soul. http://lauralee.com/archives/asx/080802.asx Tracing the militaristic and historical models for todays schools. How the soul is psychologically ensnared. How to fix the system. What true education could do, and how http://lauralee.com/archives/asx/080902.asx A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Washington or Wilson?
-Caveat Lector- Ray Boeche wrote: I believe you may be too deeply mired in the nonsensical fiction of deconstructionism. You wrote, ...Britain, Spain, Greece, Hungary, Poland and the other 80+ nations who are in support of our actions..., implying that a MAJORITY OF THE INDIVIDUALS who populate those 80+ nations support our actions (our actions being warfare: the work of murder the Bush regime has planned for the people of 'Iraq'). If less than a MAJORITY OF THE INDIVIDUALS who populate those 80+ nations support the Bush regime's scheme, then how can the claim that those 80+ nations, as a whole, support it, have any legitimacy? Implying that the miscreants and scoundrels who call themselves the leaders of those 80+ nations support the work of murder the Bush regime has planned for the people of 'Iraq' is a bit more believable. They have supporters in each of their respective nations as well. You can toss them into the mix too. Yet when you add it all up you'll still fall far short of having a majority of the individuals who populate the 80+ nations actually supporting the work of murder the Bush regime has planned. Even if a majority of individuals are included, it doesn't change the fact that the entire science of justice is based on the right to defend oneself against an aggressor. Bush's claim that an invasion of Iraq is for the defense of America is absurd, and contradicts the most basic principles of natural law and justice. The official FBI definition of terrorism: Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. What the Bush regime has planned for the people of 'Iraq' is nothing less then the unlawful use of force and violence against persons and property to intimidate and coerce the 'Iraqi government', the 'Iraqi' civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of the Bush regime's political objectives. In other words: terrorism. Or does one have to be deeply mired in the nonsensical fiction of deconstructionism to get it? -- All the great governments of the world -- those now existing, as well as those that have passed away -- have been of this character: They have been mere bands of robbers, who have associated for purposes of plunder, conquest, and the enslavement of their fellow men. And their laws, as they have called them, have been only such agreements as they have found it necessary to enter into, in order to maintain their organizations, and act together in plundering and enslaving others, and in securing to each his agreed share of the spoils. - Lysander Spooner, Natural Law A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Washington or Wilson?
-Caveat Lector- Ray Boeche wrote: I'm sure Britain, Spain, Greece, Hungary, Poland and the other 80+ nations who are in support of our actions appreciate your consideration of them as non-entities. The State is the great fictitious entity by which everyone expects to live at the expense of everyone else. -- Frederic Bastiat Every body politic on this planet is a corporation, an artificial entity, a fiction at law. They only exist in your mind. When you write of Britain, Spain, Greece, Hungary, Poland and the other 80+ so-called nations you're referring to non-entities. At most, you're referring to a number of hucksters who masquerade around styling themselves as government and a multitude of suckers who support them. As Frederick Mann put it: In his book Cat's Cradle, Kurt Vonnegut coined the word granfalloon to describe abstract concepts like nation, state, country, government, society, IBM, etc. He wrote, To discover the substance of a granfalloon, just prick a hole in a toy balloon. In his book The Incredible Secret Money Machine, Don Lancaster explains: A granfalloon is any large bureaucratic figment of people's imagination. For instance, there's really no such thing as the Feds or General Veeblefeltzer Corporation. There are a bunch of people out there that relate to each other, and there's some structures, and some paper. In fact, there's lots and lots of paper. The people sit in the structures and pass paper back and forth to each other and charge you to do so. All these people, structures, and paper are real. But nowhere can you point to the larger concept of government or corporation and say, There it is, kiddies! The monolithic, big they is all in your mind. A granfalloon is the lumping together of many diverse elements into an abstract collection, and to then think and speak as if the abstract collection is one single entity capable of performing actions. This phenomenon leads people to say things like the government runs the country. I hope you realize (or will soon) just how absurd the previous sentence is. Government Consists of Individual Human Beings The human brain is an abstracting device. We might call the first level of abstraction the concrete abstract. Consider the concept table. The concept or word corresponds to and represents a physical object table. However, the concept table is more general than the object table - because the concept table can be applied to any of a large number of objects with flat surfaces and (usually) four legs; whereas the physical object table is one specific object. Our next level of abstraction we might call the collective abstract - for example, furniture. It's very useful to lump together a number of diverse but related objects and use the abstract word or concept furniture to represent all of them. It makes thinking and communicating more efficient. Instead of saying, Clean the chairs, the tables, the shelves, the mirrors, the cupboards, etc., you can simply say, Clean the furniture. It's much more efficient. But with the increase in efficiency comes a potential lack of distinction... Government can be described as a collection of individuals, pieces of paper, buildings, weaponry, etc. Let's take a look at what becomes possible when we think in terms of individual human beings, instead of the monolithic collective abstract government - a two-sentence refutation of all the arguments for government: Government consists of individual human beings - or people. When people say government is necessary to do X (whatever), or only government can do X, or government must do for people what they can't do for themselves - what they're really saying is: people are necessary to do X, or only people can do X, or people must do for people what they can't do for themselves. http://buildfreedom.com/tl/tl07b.shtml A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A
[CTRL] American State Terrorism
-Caveat Lector- The UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT is the Worlds Greatest TERRORIST ORGANIZATION The greatest acts of terrorism are not committed by furtive gangs of masked desperados in foreign lands. The most horrific acts of terrorism in world history have always been committed by governments and their militaries. The government and military of the United States of America have committed massive acts of international terrorism and brutal genocide from 1899 to the present day. Official FBI definition of terrorism: Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives. Even by its own definition the hypocrite U.S. government is guilty of terrorism on a massive, international scale. And for over 100 years! The U.S. government has broken international law and the Geneva Convention many times with its brutal use of force and horrific violence against persons and property, to intimidate and coerce governments, civilian populations, and many segments thereof, in furtherance of political, social and especially *economic* objectives. more: http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/AmericanStateTerrorism.html -- I wouldnt go to war again as I have done to defend some lousy investment of the bankers. We should fight only for the defense of our home and the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket. There isnt a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It had its 'finger men' to point out enemies, its 'muscle men' to destroy enemies, its 'brain men' to plan war preparations and a 'Big Boss' - supernationalistic capitalism. - USMC Major General Smedley Butler, Common Sense (1935) A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://archive.jab.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Best News, Information And 911 Sites - 4th Edition
-Caveat Lector- from: http://rense.com/general34/vest.htm Best News, Information And 911 Sites - 4th Edition By John Kaminski [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2-4-3) If you were to read every story on every website mentioned in this post, we wouldn't hear from you for years. However, if you were to scan all the sites mentioned here, and picked out stories that piqued your interest, something profound would happen. You would never trust what you read in your local newspaper or believed what you heard on TV ever again. And that is exactly the point of this list. The World Wide Web is where the genuine information is today. The mass media have deteriorated into a deceptive and delusional miasma of propaganda pitches designed not to tell the truth about current events, but to spin them in ways that will be profitable to the patricians who own the media outlets and pay for the deceptive advertising that ruin the health and the fortunes of ordinary citizens who are just trying to live their lives in a peaceful and orderly manner. Print and broadcast mass media are the agents of deception and delusion - no exceptions. The corporate mainstream media are all colluding in a criminal obstruction-of-justice coverup with corrupt government officials who have morphed the United States of America from a relatively functioning democratic republic into a private plunder preserve for the rich where ordinary people are regularly robbed of their hard-earned money and the privileged yet uneducated elite are free to trash the resources of the world's most gifted nation and sell them to the highest bidder. With the help of corrupt judges and conscienceless politicians, America has become the scourge of the world as it loots country after country at the same time it deprives its own citizens not only of their basic rights that were once protected by a functioning Constitution, but also of their security, their wealth, and their self-respect as scam after scam drugs, wars, and products you don't need that don't work are foisted on unsuspecting consumers. The information contained on these websites will help you see things differently, and more accurately. This is the fourth time I've compiled this list. Each time it has expanded and changed slightly. A few sites have dropped off. Many more have been added. If you're reading this, it's because we write regularly, you've sent me an interesting e-mail, or you are the creator of or work for an interesting website. This list is only one person's opinion of what's out there on the web regarding information about the coverup of 9/11. This list as meant as a recommendation of where to find valid information not curdled by corporate contempt. It is not meant to be a complete list, and apologies to all those great sites out there I haven't found yet. I always like getting recommendations and I understand that what I like might not be what you like. Nevertheless, after a year of surfing every day, these are the sites I've found to be most valuable. I would sincerely urge you to check all of them out at your leisure and support them financially if you are able. Everything recommended on this list is free (although with some, you can get add-ons that do cost money). I have taken pains not to include any sites of an overtly religious or spiritual nature, being a believer in the following statement: Anytime an adherent of one religion says anything at all about another religion, it is not to be taken seriously because the speaker can't help but be completely biased, and is therefore unreliable. I have also excluded the categories of economics and the law, because not being an economist or a lawyer, I'm not sure when I'm being bamboozled by fancy rhetoric and references to documents with which I am unfamiliar. BEST 911 SITES - 4th EDITION Most Important Site http://www.copvcia.com/ Best News Sources http://www.rense.com/ http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ http://www.globalresearch.ca/ http://www.questionsquestions.net/ (See note at end) http://www.guerrillanews.com/ http://www.apfn.org/apfn/kenvardon.htm http://www.communitycurrency.org/index.html http://www.onlinejournal.com/ http://www.lovearth.net/ http://www.madcowprod.com/ http://www.tomflocco.com/ http://www.lewisnews.com/ Best 9/11 Timelines http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/home.htm http://home.att.net/~Resurgence/CIAtimeline.html http://www.911pi.com/ Best Liberal Leftie Sites http://www.wsws.org/index.shtml http://www.legitgov.org/ http://www.iacenter.org/ http://www.freedomroad.org/home.html http://www.yellowtimes.org/index.php http://globalcircle.net/00globalization.htm http://www.flybynews.com/ Best Patriot Right Sites http://www.americanfreepress.net/ http://proliberty.com/observer/index.htm http://www.public-action.com/ http://www.sierratimes.com/ http://www.savethemales.ca/index.html http://www.thenewamerican.com/ Best Mainstream Right Sites http://www.lewrockwell.com/ http://www.antiwar.com/
Re: [CTRL] The Reluctant Anarchist
-Caveat Lector- klewis wrote: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/sobran-j1.html Murray died a few years ago without quite having made an anarchist of me. It was left to his brilliant disciple, Hans-Hermann Hoppe, to finish my conversion. Hans argued that no constitution could restrain the state. Once its monopoly of force was granted legitimacy, constitutional limits became mere fictions it could disregard; nobody could have the legal standing to enforce those limits. The state itself would decide, by force, what the constitution meant, steadily ruling in its own favor and increasing its own power. This was true a priori, and American history bore it out. `The thing I keep running into with libertarians is that they are purposely blind to the following: if you start with a weak state and a laissez-faire economy, eventually megacorporations will coalesce and become a defacto state, usually fascist and obviously not held accountable by the democratic process. And the megacorps will mold and embolden the state so that it has the authority and agenda to serve them. I don't have to wonder about the viability of this theory, since I have discovered that the US is more or less living proof.' -Daniel Pouzzner A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Shocking Pagan Origin Of Christmas
-Caveat Lector- from: Jeff Rense - Fri., Dec. 19 '02 http://www.crncast.com/asxautomagic.asp?ArchiveDate=12-19-02 A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The End of the World...Maybe
-Caveat Lector- William Shannon wrote: http://www.lewrockwell.com/wallace/wallace37.html The End of the World...Maybe by Bob Wallace Wow, this guy's a REAL trip! Lots of ass-kickin' articles in his archive. Ayn Rand, Science-Fiction Writer was an *extremely* entertaining read, as were several others I've just had the pleasure to go through. Thanks! http://www.lewrockwell.com/wallace/wallace-arch.html A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skousen On Vreeland Red Mercury 4/12/02
-Caveat Lector- Jeff Rense Interview (RealPlayer - 3 hrs): April 17th Michael Ruppert Delmart 'Mike' Vreeland: Russian Documents and 911 Controversy http://globalplaylist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1033401 William Shannon wrote: In a message dated 4/13/02 1:05:07 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you think Bill? Has Mike Ruppert backed Vreeland at great risk to himself and his reputation? Ruppert has indeed put his credibility on the line for Vreeland and I'm torn here as I like and trust both Ruppert and Skousen. If push came to shove I'd probably have to side with Ruppert. But it is an interesting analysis from Skousen and it is merely his opinion. Bill. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ctrl To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] So much for Conservative TalkRadio
-Caveat Lector- InfoWarz wrote: They viciously attacked the idea that Bush and high government officials had prior knowledge of the 9-11 attack. No mention of any evidence, or intelligent discourse, just total denigration of the whole notion of prior knowledge and involvement. Of course, the talking heads on the idiot tube yesterday morning were all frothing at the mouths over this issue as well - except one. A guest on the C-SPAN morning show, Peter Jennings was taking calls from listeners; most of the ones I caught were conspiracy theories dealing w/ 911, etc., (the callers sounded like a bunch of well-informed, Jeff Rense-type listeners, one right after the other - you could tell that the host was getting pissed) and SURPRISINGLY Jennings didn't dismiss them with the usual ad hominem attacks and other BS fallacies the media often use. Instead he seemed to enjoy them - even said as much at one point. And when the host was trying to smear the callers as nutty conspiracy theorists who should be ignored, Jennings pointed out that he was in the media business long enough to have seen far too many things he initially dismissed as BS, turned out to be true, so he tries to keep an open mind. The entire time he was on, he did. Pleasant surprise, to say the least. Every time the C-SPAN host tried to get Jennings to denounce or ridicule conspiracy theory (which he did on several occasions), Jennings left him hanging. No shit. Seems that Jennings was sleeping through Bush's 911 speech at the UN, Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th - either that, or he just flipped 'em the bird. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hiding Humanity's True History - 'The Brain Police' and 'The Big Lie'
-Caveat Lector- Rense.com Hiding Humanity's True History 'The Brain Police' and 'The Big Lie' By Will Hart © 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Extracted from Nexus Magazine Volume 9, Number 3 April-May 2002 4-8-2 Any time you allege a conspiracy is afoot, especially in the field of science, you are treading on thin ice. We tend to be very sceptical about conspiracies--unless the Mafia or some Muslim radicals are behind the alleged plot. But the evidence is overwhelming and the irony is that much of it is in plain view. The good news is that the players are obvious. Their game plan and even their play-by-play tactics are transparent, once you learn to spot them. However, it is not so easy to penetrate through the smokescreen of propaganda and disinformation to get to their underlying motives and goals. It would be convenient if we could point to a plumber's unit and a boldface liar like Richard Nixon, but this is a more subtle operation. The bad news: the conspiracy is global and there are many vested interest groups. A cursory investigation yields the usual suspects: scientists with a theoretical axe to grind, careers to further and the status quo to maintain. Their modus operandi is The Big Lie--and the bigger and more widely publicised, the better. They rely on invoking their academic credentials to support their arguments, and the presumption is that no one has the right to question their authoritarian pronouncements that: 1. there is no mystery about who built the Great Pyramid or what the methods of construction were, and the Sphinx shows no signs of water damage; 2. there were no humans in the Americas before 20,000 BC; 3. the first civilisation dates back no further than 6000 BC; 4. there are no documented anomalous, unexplained or enigmatic data to take into account; 5. there are no lost or unaccounted-for civilisations. Let the evidence to the contrary be damned! Personal Attacks: Dispute over Age of the Sphinx and Great Pyramid In 1993, NBC in the USA aired The Mysteries of the Sphinx, which presented geological evidence showing that the Sphinx was at least twice as old (9,000 years) as Egyptologists claimed. It has become well known as the water erosion controversy. An examination of the politicking that Egyptologists deployed to combat this undermining of their turf is instructive. Self-taught Egyptologist John Anthony West brought the water erosion issue to the attention of geologist Dr Robert Schoch. They went to Egypt and launched an intensive on-site investigation. After thoroughly studying the Sphinx first hand, the geologist came to share West's preliminary conclusion and they announced their findings. Dr Zahi Hawass, the Giza Monuments chief, wasted no time in firing a barrage of public criticism at the pair. Renowned Egyptologist Dr Mark Lehner, who is regarded as the world's foremost expert on the Sphinx, joined his attack. He charged West and Schoch with being ignorant and insensitive. That was a curious accusation which took the matter off the professional level and put the whole affair on a personal plane. It did not address the facts or issues at all and it was highly unscientific. But we must note the standard tactic of discrediting anyone who dares to call the accepted theories into question. Shifting the focus away from the issues and personalising the debate is a highly effective strategy--one which is often used by politicians who feel insecure about their positions. Hawass and Lehner invoked their untouchable status and presumed authority. (One would think that a geologist's assessment would hold more weight on this particular point.) A short time later, Schoch, Hawass and Lehner were invited to debate the issue at the American Association for the Advancement of Science. West was not allowed to participate because he lacked the required credentials. This points to a questionable assumption that is part of the establishment's arsenal: only degreed scientists can practise science. Two filters keep the uncredentialled, independent researcher out of the loop: (1) credentials, and (2) peer review. You do not get to number two unless you have number one. Science is a method that anyone can learn and apply. It does not require a degree to observe and record facts and think critically about them, especially in the non-technical social sciences. In a free and open society, science has to be a democratic process. Be that as it may, West was barred. The elements of the debate have been batted back and forth since then without resolution. It is similar to the controversy over who built the Giza pyramids and how. This brings up the issue of The Big Lie and how it has been promoted for generations in front of God and everyone. The controversy over how the Great Pyramid was constructed is one example. It could be easily settled if Egyptologists wanted to resolve the dispute. A simple test could be designed and arranged by impartial engineers that would either prove or disprove their
