Real Patriots Defend the Constitution
http://www.guerrillanews.com/war_on_terrorism/doc1034.html Real Patriots Defend The Constitution Assessing the Impact of Post-9/11 Anti-Terror Legislation GNN: Hey Riva. Why don.t we start by asking you what your name is, where we are right now. and what organization you.re from. Riva Enteen: I.m Riva Enteen. I.m the Program Director with the National Lawyers Guild San Francisco Bay Area Chapter. We.re the largest chapter in the country and this is our building, which we share with the Tenants Union in the mission in San Francisco. GNN: Great. Maybe you could tell us a little bit about the history of the organization. like, how and why it got started and what was the need for the organization at that time. Riva: Sure. We have a proud history. We formed in 1937 because then- President Franklin Delano Roosevelt asked progressive attorneys to come together to defend the .New Deal. which was under attack in the courts. So we formed at his request to defend the .New Deal.. Secondly, the American Bar Association was, at that time, segregated, so we were the first racially integrated bar. And that was our founding in 1937. And we.ve been through the periods from the labor struggles, civil rights, Japanese internment, McCarthy period, anti-war, and now this incredible period of repression that, frankly, our elder members say is unprecedented. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :NSA got $20Bil/year |Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :and didn't stop 9-11|share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:Instead of rewarding|monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :their failures, we |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :should get refunds! |site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net
Re: aljazeera.net hacked again?
> Nslookup www.aljazeera.net now fails. As does ping 213.30.180.219 > > Looks like they got them again Be aware of one gotcha: in case of flood attack, ISPs often filter ICMP and UDP (ports >1023) packets. So ping and traceroute won't work to the last hop there. More reliable is a telnet attempt to port 80. If successful, enter these three lines: GET / HTTP/1.0 Host: www.aljazeera.net (the third line is empty) and watch if you get some HTML back. It seems the server is up but heavily overloaded. I can't find out if the machine is overloaded because of a DDoS attack or because too high interest of viewers or combination of both.
Re: Quote of the Day, Re: Usenet as solution to Al-Jazeera jamming problem
On Friday 28 March 2003 00:10, Major Variola (ret) wrote: > "Sometimes when you're in government you have to do things for the > people > whether they like it or not. That's what governing is all about," > said Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno, R-Brunswick. Hitlary, Chucklehead Schumer, the now-deceased Pat "Old Drunk" Moynihan, George Pataki, Al Sharpton, and now Joe Bruno. Tell ya, I'm damn proud to be a New Yorker. -- Steve FurlongComputer Condottiere Have GNU, Will Travel Guns will get you through times of no duct tape better than duct tape will get you through times of no guns. -- Ron Kuby
Use firewall or a remailer, go to jail?
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000336.html According to this source, there are state-level law proposals which could make firewalls, anonymizers, FreeNet servers, steganography software, and distributed proxies illegal, despite of being originally intended against cable and sat descramblers. (See eg. the Texas law, http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlo/78R/billtext/SB01116I.HTM - section 6.a.1.B - I'd check more, but such dense legalese makes me feel nauseous.) I don't think it's a real intention to put it there, but I also think that once there, it'll be sooner or later used by some trigger-happy prosecutors.
Al-Jazeera tells the truth about war
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4635417,00.html and for the crap filled regular web version: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,924494,00.html My station is a threat to American media control - and they know it Faisal Bodi Friday March 28, 2003 The Guardian Last month, when it became clear that the US-led drive to war was irreversible, I - like many other British journalists - relocated to Qatar for a ringside seat. But I am an Islamist journalist, so while the others bedded down at the #1m media centre at US central command in As-Sayliyah, I found a more humble berth in the capital Doha, working for the internet arm of al-Jazeera. And yet, only a week into the war, I find myself working for the most sought-after news resource in the world. On March 23, the night the channel screened the first footage of captured US PoW's, al-Jazeera was the most searched item on the internet portal, Lycos, registering three times as many hits as the next item. I do not mean to brag - people are turning to us simply because the western media coverage has been so poor. For although Doha is just a 15- minute drive from central command, the view of events from here could not be more different. Of all the major global networks, al-Jazeera has been alone in proceeding from the premise that this war should be viewed as an illegal enterprise. It has broadcast the horror of the bombing campaign, the blown-out brains, the blood-spattered pavements, the screaming infants and the corpses. Its team of on-the-ground, unembedded correspondents has provided a corrective to the official line that the campaign is, barring occasional resistance, going to plan. Earlier in the week Arab viewers had seen the gruesome aftermath of the coalition bombing of "Ansar al-Islam" positions in the north-east of the country. All but two of the 35 killed were civilians in an area controlled by a neutral Islamist group, a fact passed over with undue haste in western reports. And before that, on the second day of the war, most of the western media reported verbatim central command statements that Umm Qasr was under "coalition" control - it was not until Wednesday that al-Jazeera could confirm all resistance there had been pacified. Throughout the past week, armed peoples in the west and south have been attacking the exposed rearguard of coalition positions, while all the time - despite debilitating sandstorms - western TV audiences have seen litte except their steady advance towards Baghdad. This is not truthful reporting. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :NSA got $20Bil/year |Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :and didn't stop 9-11|share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:Instead of rewarding|monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :their failures, we |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :should get refunds! |site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net
Re: aljazeera.net hacked again?
At 07:51 AM 3/28/2003 -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Ken Brown wrote: > It looks like they were blocked in the USA (or else suffered reallly > badly from hacking) and have maybe re-established the service in the > Land of Freedom. > > aljazeera.net, www.aljazeera.net, and english.aljazeera.net all give me > 213.30.180.219 All of that is blocked in the US. > I can browse it, it gives me a page in Arabic, which is not one of my > language. The source code & URLs are in Latin script of course so I can > just about navigate. > > http://www.aljazeera.net/Cartoons/index.asp?cu_NO=1&Temp_id=197 has > some cartoons which are quite good > > Take a look at > http://www.aljazeera.net/Cartoons/index.asp?cu_NO=1&Temp_ID=197&Index=3 > I do not think any COW-friendly hackers would be publishing it - it > shows some starving kids hoping that the invaders are bringing them food > but getting blown apart by a bomb. I'm having no problem accessing this site via JAP from the U.S., probably since the servers are in Dresden (how ironically appropriate). steve
voting, social net analysis, reputation, authentication in the desert
One interesting application of voting, social net analysis, and reputations is figuring out who are the bad guys (tm) if they don't wear uniforms. Seems you'd have to isolate each person and ask them about everyone in town they know. In smaller towns the militia [1] would stand out, of course (no privacy in small towns) but in larger ones you'd need to manage large reputation nets. [1] The psyops folks were not prepared for the Iraqi minutemen, and are now sputtering with "terrorist death squads" as their best namecalling, an irritating mix of Reagan-era latin american and 21st century propoganda. There is also an authentication issue, given that the bad guys (tm) are wearing the same uniform. According to one stream, if you're not wearing some part of your chemical suit, you are suspect. So this extra piece of gear is an authenticator. Boggle ---maybe none of the POWs had that piece of gear? At 12:36 PM 3/28/03 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: >If it wasn't for actual people being shredded this war would be one >colossal joke. Are you ready kids? Aye aye George! I can't hear you! Aye aye George! Ooh Who lives in a bunker under the sand? Saddam Squarepants! Despotic and dug in and cunning is he! Saddam Squarepants! If chemical nonsense be something you wish, Saddam Squarepants! Then put on a mask and flub like a fish! Saddam Squarepants! Saddam Squarepants! Saddam Squarepants! Saddam Squarepants! Saddam Squarepants! --- Rumsfeld's daily vitamins: potassium iodide, atropine, sodium thiosulphate.
Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV
Um, watch your attributions, I didn't write that paragraph. :) --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :NSA got $20Bil/year |Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :and didn't stop 9-11|share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:Instead of rewarding|monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :their failures, we |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :should get refunds! |site, and you must change them very often. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sunder.net On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, 'Gabriel Rocha' wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, at 01:12PM, Sunder wrote: > > The site was defaced last I saw it, I would suspect that to still be the > case, or it is down for other reasons (overloaded, etc...) For those of > you who are getting a dotster page, try using a different dns server > than what your isp is giving you. It may not be 'jammed' from the US, > but if ISPs want to use an easy way to stop average users from going > there, they can just make their dns servers give false answers, which > would explain what you're getting.
Re: aljazeera.net hacked again?
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Ken Brown wrote: > Nslookup www.aljazeera.net now fails. As does ping 213.30.180.219 > > Looks like they got them again It's now 12:40 local or 18:40 UTC and I got www.aljazeera.net ok. The english.aljazeera.net comes in as arabic too, so obviously they are dealing with it still. dig aljazeera.net ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> aljazeera.net ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; aljazeera.net, type = A, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: aljazeera.net. 15M IN A213.30.180.219 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: aljazeera.net. 15M IN NS ns1sa.navlink.com. aljazeera.net. 15M IN NS ns3.aljazeera.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns3.aljazeera.net. 15M IN A213.30.180.218 So it looks like they at least got a new set of servers. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
Re: aljazeera.net hacked again?
Nslookup www.aljazeera.net now fails. As does ping 213.30.180.219 Looks like they got them again Mike Rosing wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Ken Brown wrote: > > > It looks like they were blocked in the USA (or else suffered reallly > > badly from hacking) and have maybe re-established the service in the > > Land of Freedom. > > > > aljazeera.net, www.aljazeera.net, and english.aljazeera.net all give me > > 213.30.180.219 > > All of that is blocked in the US. > > > I can browse it, it gives me a page in Arabic, which is not one of my > > language. The source code & URLs are in Latin script of course so I can > > just about navigate. > > > > http://www.aljazeera.net/Cartoons/index.asp?cu_NO=1&Temp_id=197 has > > some cartoons which are quite good > > > > Take a look at > > http://www.aljazeera.net/Cartoons/index.asp?cu_NO=1&Temp_ID=197&Index=3 > > I do not think any COW-friendly hackers would be publishing it - it > > shows some starving kids hoping that the invaders are bringing them food > > but getting blown apart by a bomb. > > Which is why the US can't get it of course! That it's blocked here > is good proof the US government is really pretty sick. Can you forward > some of the best ones? I can put them on a US server and see how long > it takes before that goes down :-) > > Patience, persistence, truth, > Dr. mike
COWed news networks not showing Baghdad market dead
I'm scanning all four COWed networks--CNN, Fox, MSNBC, CNBC--for images
from the downtown Baghdad market and housing area strike. Supposedly Al
Jazeera is showing the images of dismembered children, frantic searches
under rubble, body parts blown against walls. Estimates are of 50 dead,
though this may change.
But are the Coalition networks showing any of this? No. At least not
after having had plenty of time to either steal the Al Jazeera and
other feeds, or make the usual reciprocal arrangements. Al Arabia out
of Dubai and Al Jazeera out of Qatar are showing the images. Fox News
("Fair AND Balanced!") says the images are "harrowing" (this from a
British reporter, as the word "harrowing" is far too harrowing for
Americans to understand) and Fox says they do not plan to show the
images.
Instead, we get pictures of Tomahawk launches and the usual rhetoric.
"Our glorious forces of liberation continued their march to liberate
the den of the evil doers and the despot Soddom. Our noble embedded
reporters say our forces of liberation are repelling illegal attacks by
illegal combatants who are illegally defending their country against
our Coalition of the Willing.
"Coalition of the Willing forces have fire-bombed the city of Dresden,
deep inside the Axis of Evil nation of Germany, for its hosting of the
illegal information service Al Jazeera Web mirrors. General Tommy
Franks pointed out that we have to incinerate the city to save the
city, that we have met the enemy and he is us, and that there's light
at the end of the tunnel."
--Tim May
""Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who
approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but
downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined."
--Patrick Henry
Trials for those undermining the war effort?
On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 09:45 AM, 'Gabriel Rocha' wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, at 10:27AM, Sunder wrote: | Um, watch your attributions, I didn't write that paragraph. :) My apologies, I wrote the paragraph below. Must have missed your attribution while deleting stuff. --Gabe We probably all ought to be very careful about who said what, versus who was quoting what, in these dangerous times. As we saw in the Bell and Johnson cases, courts are often careless about how e-mail is handled, with authorship often attributed by ignorant DAs to those merely quoting (and with rebuttal blocked by equally ignorant judges). If nothing else, the national security fascista may take a "Joe Blow said" as grounds for a no-knock raid, with pumped-up ninja soldiers anxious to deal with "those who undercut our boys in Iraq." The First Fascist is getting increasingly irritable about what the proles are saying, lashing out at reporters for undermining the war effort. The U.S. may be heading for massive losses along the Convoy of Death. Torrie Clark, spokesbimbo for the Defense Department, refers to Iraqis defending their country as "thugs." (As they may be, but this whole clusterfuck is showing the well-known problems with invading another country with strung-out supply lines and with urban/guerilla battles. We could all write for pages and pages on what's going wrong, so I won't.) To cut to the chase, several of my former friends are calling me a traitor and claiming to have reported me to the FBI for my statements about how the war machine ought to be hacked and undermined. This may be one of my famous "it could happen" statements which don't go as "predicted," but, like the Siege of Baghdad, life is unpredictable. To wit, it seems to me that a war-torn U.S., with a PATRIOT Act and a Homeland Security Act, plus a Congress more interested in debating child safety seats in SUVs during this crisis, plus a Supreme Court overseeing the repealing of the Bill of Rights, may very well lash out and those seen as a "Fifth Column" in their Iraq fiasco. Daniel Ellsberg was not successfully prosecuted, nor was the "New York Times" successfully enjoined, in 1971's "Pentagon Papers" case. Different times. A different court. Today, would such a dismissal of charge and failure to enjoin occur? I think not. We may see some major prosecutions of alleged sedition and treason. (Recall that Eugene Debs, a very public figure, was convicted and imprisoned for speaking out against forced enslavement of free persons into an army butting in in Europe. Speaking out, not bombing, not derailing trains, just speaking. So much for the First Amendment. This was one of many disgraces in American history.) I expect Homeland Security to push to prosecute similar cases. --Tim May "They played all kinds of games, kept the House in session all night, and it was a very complicated bill. Maybe a handful of staffers actually read it, but the bill definitely was not available to members before the vote." --Rep. Ron Paul, TX, on how few Congresscritters saw the USA-PATRIOT Bill before voting overwhelmingly to impose a police state
Re: Quote of the Day, Re: Usenet as solution to Al-Jazeera jamming problem
At 09:10 PM 3/27/2003 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: "Sometimes when you're in government you have to do things for the people whether they like it or not. That's what governing is all about," said Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno, R-Brunswick. http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20030327/1028333.asp Re: Usenet as solution to Al-Jazeera jamming problem I suspect that Usenet groups containing tens-o-megabyte files are often blocked by ISPs (and public sources would be overwhelmed). Also, wasn't Usenet plagued by evil message-cancellers? Yes, people sometimes try to thwart postings, esp. muliti-part postings common for video. Speaking of which, I think you should visit Usenet sometime and look at the alt.binaries.multimedia hierarchy. People routinely post movies in Divx/avi, vcd, svcd and now even dvd format (we're talking about a full 4.3 GB disk!). If someone wanted to create a plug-in for popular multimedia viewers (e.g., RealOne or Windows Media Player) that could resolve and automatically assemble Usenet postings it could work very well (there are already a number of newsgroup readers out there specialized for such work) as a broadcast video tool for any commercial or non-commercial application. steve
Re: aljazeera.net hacked again?
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Ken Brown wrote: > It looks like they were blocked in the USA (or else suffered reallly > badly from hacking) and have maybe re-established the service in the > Land of Freedom. > > aljazeera.net, www.aljazeera.net, and english.aljazeera.net all give me > 213.30.180.219 All of that is blocked in the US. > I can browse it, it gives me a page in Arabic, which is not one of my > language. The source code & URLs are in Latin script of course so I can > just about navigate. > > http://www.aljazeera.net/Cartoons/index.asp?cu_NO=1&Temp_id=197 has > some cartoons which are quite good > > Take a look at > http://www.aljazeera.net/Cartoons/index.asp?cu_NO=1&Temp_ID=197&Index=3 > I do not think any COW-friendly hackers would be publishing it - it > shows some starving kids hoping that the invaders are bringing them food > but getting blown apart by a bomb. Which is why the US can't get it of course! That it's blocked here is good proof the US government is really pretty sick. Can you forward some of the best ones? I can put them on a US server and see how long it takes before that goes down :-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Sarad AV wrote: > All this happening on the worlds greatest demcoracy. > may be you read this news. The worlds greatest democracy is India. Over 500 million people vote in one election. > In any case US military pow's are going to have a hard > time and since U.S didnot give pow status to > *suspected* Al-Queda/taliban militants captured in > afghan war-no body is going to put pressure on iraq > either. Yup, hypocrisy is the US philosophy. The US can break the rules, but nobody else can. Unfortunatly, the people who should be suffereing won't. Check out Robert Fisk at the Independent in UK for some secondary reports from Al-Jazeera. I don't think the US propaganda machine is going to hold up under the real images of kids with their heads blown open. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike
Re: aljazeera.net hacked again?
I got www.aljazeera.net for a short bit this morning, but not english.jazeera.net at all, but now the former just goes on trying to load forever, as did the cartoon section Ken posted. I sure hope some mirrors get set up. On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 07:51:06AM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Ken Brown wrote: > > > It looks like they were blocked in the USA (or else suffered reallly > > badly from hacking) and have maybe re-established the service in the > > Land of Freedom. > > > > aljazeera.net, www.aljazeera.net, and english.aljazeera.net all give me > > 213.30.180.219 > > All of that is blocked in the US. > > > I can browse it, it gives me a page in Arabic, which is not one of my > > language. The source code & URLs are in Latin script of course so I can > > just about navigate. > > > > http://www.aljazeera.net/Cartoons/index.asp?cu_NO=1&Temp_id=197 has > > some cartoons which are quite good > > > > Take a look at > > http://www.aljazeera.net/Cartoons/index.asp?cu_NO=1&Temp_ID=197&Index=3 > > I do not think any COW-friendly hackers would be publishing it - it > > shows some starving kids hoping that the invaders are bringing them food > > but getting blown apart by a bomb. > > Which is why the US can't get it of course! That it's blocked here > is good proof the US government is really pretty sick. Can you forward > some of the best ones? I can put them on a US server and see how long > it takes before that goes down :-) > > Patience, persistence, truth, > Dr. mike -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com We are now in America's Darkest Hour. http://www.oshkoshbygosh.org hoka hey!
Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV
On Fri, Mar 28, at 10:27AM, Sunder wrote: | Um, watch your attributions, I didn't write that paragraph. :) My apologies, I wrote the paragraph below. Must have missed your attribution while deleting stuff. --Gabe | On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, 'Gabriel Rocha' wrote: | | > On Thu, Mar 27, at 01:12PM, Sunder wrote: | > | > The site was defaced last I saw it, I would suspect that to still be the | > case, or it is down for other reasons (overloaded, etc...) For those of | > you who are getting a dotster page, try using a different dns server | > than what your isp is giving you. It may not be 'jammed' from the US, | > but if ISPs want to use an easy way to stop average users from going | > there, they can just make their dns servers give false answers, which | > would explain what you're getting. | |
Re: Al-Jazeera website [was: Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV]
> Maybe someone should tell them about Spam Assassin. In this case, SpamAssassin would most likely bring the machine further down by eating all the RAM and CPU. It's likely that separation of mail and web services would be a wise move here; DNS MX records allow a comfortable way to achieve this.
RE: Quote of the Day, Re: Usenet as solution to Al-Jazeera jammin g problem
> Kazaa Inc should encourage this, since it is a Valenti-free Can you say "substantial non-infringing use" ? :) Some P2P companies would (should) love that... -- Vincent Penquerc'h
RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV
Steve Schear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >At 01:46 AM 3/28/2003 +1200, Peter Gutmann wrote: >>John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>>Whether either of these work as bragged or are psyop mirages is worth betting >>>an WMD Indian nickle on. >> >>It's a cool toy, but I can't see someone using a $1M e-bomb when a $1000 Mk.82 >>will do the same thing, especially if there's any chance it'll be captured >>intact by an enemy who can... hmm, there's a thought: > >According to Carlo a E-WMD can be constructed, by a knowledgeable person, >in a home garage machine shop from parts costing << $5000. This is the Pentagon we're talking about here. The spanner used to tighten the bolts costs $5000. (I've also been told that a Mk.82 wholesales for around US$250, so I guess we're being overcharged at NZ$1K. Maybe it's because we don't buy 'em in bulk). Peter.
Quote of the Day, Re: Usenet as solution to Al-Jazeera jamming problem
"Sometimes when you're in government you have to do things for the people whether they like it or not. That's what governing is all about," said Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno, R-Brunswick. http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20030327/1028333.asp Re: Usenet as solution to Al-Jazeera jamming problem I suspect that Usenet groups containing tens-o-megabyte files are often blocked by ISPs (and public sources would be overwhelmed). Also, wasn't Usenet plagued by evil message-cancellers? The problem with Freenet, Tarzan, etc. is they aren't deployed. Kazaa is, so widely that its robust. Simply putting "Al Jazeera" in files' metainfo will work. Kazaa Inc should encourage this, since it is a Valenti-free social good (to some of us, anyway).
Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV
On Thu, Mar 27, at 01:12PM, Sunder wrote: The site was defaced last I saw it, I would suspect that to still be the case, or it is down for other reasons (overloaded, etc...) For those of you who are getting a dotster page, try using a different dns server than what your isp is giving you. It may not be 'jammed' from the US, but if ISPs want to use an easy way to stop average users from going there, they can just make their dns servers give false answers, which would explain what you're getting. >From Switzerland: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ traceroute -I www.aljazeera.net traceroute to aljazeera.net (213.30.180.219), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 193.247.37.1 (193.247.37.1) 1.695 ms 1.531 ms 1.530 ms 2 i68ges-021-Serial4-4.ip-plus.net (164.128.74.85) 3.840 ms 3.741 ms 3.688 ms 3 i68ges-000-FastEthernet1-0.ip-plus.net (164.128.76.33) 3.714 ms 10.697 ms 3.661 ms 4 i68ges-005-fas2-2.ip-plus.net (164.128.35.73) 3.683 ms 3.701 ms 6.341 ms 5 UTA-Innsbruck.ip-plus.net (164.128.34.42) 14.780 ms 18.669 ms 14.908 ms 6 completel.sfinx.tm.fr (194.68.129.188) 16.237 ms 16.561 ms 15.889 ms 7 pos9-0-0.bbr1.ntr.completel.fr (213.244.1.226) 261.116 ms 18.268 ms 20.955 ms 8 213.30.128.94 (213.30.128.94) 44.155 ms 49.592 ms 43.292 ms 9 * * * >From Massachussetts: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ traceroute -I www.aljazeera.net traceroute to aljazeera.net (213.30.180.219), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 E19-RTR-2-E2.MIT.EDU (18.244.0.1) 0.459 ms 0.372 ms 0.362 ms 2 EXTERNAL-RTR-2-BACKBONE.MIT.EDU (18.168.0.27) 0.470 ms 0.445 ms 0.438 ms 3 p4-1.cambridge1-cr1.bbnplanet.net (4.1.80.29) 1.162 ms 0.825 ms 0.988 ms 4 p4-2.cambridge1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.1.80.6) 0.907 ms 0.992 ms 0.893 ms 5 p5-0.cambridge1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.110) 1.126 ms 1.052 ms 1.140 ms 6 so-4-2-0.bstnma1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.2.249) 0.998 ms 1.145 ms 1.145 ms 7 p9-0.nycmny1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.6.50) 7.161 ms 7.269 ms 7.041 ms 8 so-7-0-0.nycmny1-hcr3.bbnplanet.net (4.0.7.13) 7.389 ms 7.380 ms 7.464 ms 9 interconnect-eng.NewYork1.Level3.net (63.211.54.121) 7.453 ms 7.255 ms 7.524 ms 10 so-4-0-0.gar2.NewYork1.Level3.net (209.244.17.81) 7.488 ms so-4-0-0.gar1.NewYork1.Level3.net (209.244.17.73) 7.510 ms so-4-1-0.gar2.NewYork1.Level3.net (209.244.17.85) 8.414 ms 11 unknown.Level3.net (209.247.9.205) 7.755 ms 7.381 ms so-7-0-0.mp1.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.1.181) 7.513 ms 12 so-0-0-0.mp1.London1.Level3.net (212.187.128.157) 73.252 ms 73.321 ms 73.260 ms 13 so-1-0-0.mp1.Paris1.Level3.net (212.187.128.41) 86.229 ms 86.054 ms 85.886 ms 14 unknown.Level3.net (212.73.240.71) 86.283 ms 86.235 ms 86.132 ms 15 212.73.242.66 (212.73.242.66) 86.943 ms 87.274 ms 87.239 ms 16 213.30.129.210 (213.30.129.210) 101.833 ms 103.349 ms 101.809 ms 17 213.30.128.126 (213.30.128.126) 103.526 ms 104.286 ms 103.711 ms 18 * * *
Al-Jazeera website [was: Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV]
'Gabriel Rocha' wrote: > it is around 1130, local time, Geneva, Switzerland and > http://www.aljazeera.net/ is working just fine. (well, it might be a > fake, but not having ever seen the original, I don't know) It looks like over here in Europe we're getting DNS to aljazeera.net pointing to a French site. I don't know if that would have been the case a few days ago. http://www.cursor.org/aljazeera.htm has pointers to news items claiming that: "Launch of English website delayed until mid-April Doha - Waves of spam kept Al-Jazeera's website down for a third day on Thursday and officials at the satellite channel said it was coming from US e- mailers apparently angry over its coverage of the Iraqi war. The Qatar-based network, which has broadcast graphic footage of dead US and British soldiers, also said it would now have to delay the introduction of an English-language site for several weeks due to the barrage of spam, or junk electronic mail. "English.aljazeera.net will not be launched until mid-April," online editor-in-chief Abdel Aziz Al-Mahmud told AFP." Which, if true (could be COW-a-ganda) means AJ are victims of successful DoS. Maybe someone should tell them about Spam Assassin. aljazeera.com.qa gives me 64.70.250.49 which ARIN assign to cybergate in Florida. Last stages of traceroute are: Nuts! That has a website pointing to "Al-Jazeera Islamic Bank" For all I know Al-Jazeera may be the Qatari equivalent of Acme and Ace in Roadrunner cartoons. Default corporate brand name.
Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV
it is around 1130, local time, Geneva, Switzerland and http://www.aljazeera.net/ is working just fine. (well, it might be a fake, but not having ever seen the original, I don't know)
Re: aljazeera.net hacked again?
Harmon Seaver wrote: > >Hmm, weird -- I just got 64.106.174.80 on a lookup for aljazeera.net, and the > same for english.aljazeera.net, but now I'm getting nothing for both. So trying > from another server in AL, I get the same IP and can also actually lynx to the > site (which I couldn't do from here) but only get a 404 for either one. >This is not the IP that was reported before. It looks like they were blocked in the USA (or else suffered reallly badly from hacking) and have maybe re-established the service in the Land of Freedom. aljazeera.net, www.aljazeera.net, and english.aljazeera.net all give me 213.30.180.219 I can browse it, it gives me a page in Arabic, which is not one of my language. The source code & URLs are in Latin script of course so I can just about navigate. http://www.aljazeera.net/Cartoons/index.asp?cu_NO=1&Temp_id=197 has some cartoons which are quite good Take a look at http://www.aljazeera.net/Cartoons/index.asp?cu_NO=1&Temp_ID=197&Index=3 I do not think any COW-friendly hackers would be publishing it - it shows some starving kids hoping that the invaders are bringing them food but getting blown apart by a bomb. I think they may be being hosted in France: Traceroute, once I get beyond the UK academic network, shows: 7 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms gi2-0.linx-gw1.ja.net [146.97.35.126] 8 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms ldn-b1-geth14-1.telia.net [195.66.224.97] 9 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms ldn-bb2-pos1-2-0.telia.net [213.248.74.13] 10 <10 ms10 ms10 ms prs-bb2-pos1-1-0.telia.net [213.248.64.166] 11 <10 ms10 ms10 ms prs-b3-pos5-1.telia.net [213.248.65.66] 1240 ms 300 ms 351 ms competel-01748-prs-b3.c.telia.net [213.248.71.10] 1330 ms30 ms30 ms 213.30.128.94 14 *** Request timed out. The timeouts repeat continuously after that. 213/8 is assigned to RIPE who assign it to ATT-GLOBAL-NETWORK-SERVICES what looks like a French company called CompleTel (http://www.completel.fr) http://www.ripe.net/perl/whois?form_type=simple&full_query_string=&searchtext=213.30.180.219&do_search=Search netnum: 213.30.180.208 - 213.30.180.223 netname: ATT-GLOBAL-NETWORK-SERVICES descr:NOISY LE GRAND country: FR admin-c: SW1043-RIPE tech-c: SW1043-RIPE tech-c: DC425-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: COMPLETEL-MNT changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030325 source: RIPE route:213.30.128.0/18 descr:CompleTel France NET origin: AS12670 mnt-by: AS12670-MNT changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20001004 source: RIPE person: STANKIEWICZ WLODEK address: ATT-GLOBAL-NETWORK-SERVICES address: 1 Place JEan Baptiste CLEMENT address: 93160 address: France phone:+33 4 97 23 22 62 nic-hdl: SW1043-RIPE notify: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mnt-by: COMPLETEL-MNT changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20030324 source: RIPE person: DATA COMPLETEL address: COMPLETEL address: 15 rue des sorins address: 92741 NANTERRE address: France phone:+33 1 72 92 47 04 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] nic-hdl: DC425-RIPE notify: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mnt-by: COMPLETEL-MNT changed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010717 source: RIPE
iraqi civilians
hi, well here is the news on death of iraqi civilians in basra. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030328/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_basra&cid=716&ncid=716 I think the reverse is true.After the 'desert rats' were forced out of basra-the iraqi's were using anti air craft guns on US solidiers. After this set back-US must have gone for a big offensive. Regards Sarath. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: Email traffic can reveal ringleaders (New Scientist)
On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 06:29 PM, Thomas Shaddack wrote: ...or, the importance of foiling the traffic analysis. http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns3550 By looking for patterns in email traffic, a new technique can quickly identify online communities and the key people in them. The approach could mean terrorists or criminal gangs give themselves away, even if they are communicating in code or only discussing the weather. "If the CIA or another intelligence agency has a lot of intercepted email from people suspected of being part of a criminal network, they could use the technique to figure out who the leaders of the network might be," says Joshua Tyler of Hewlett-Packard's labs in Palo Alto, California. At the very least, it would help them prioritise investigations, he says. Tyler and his colleagues Dennis Wilkinson and Bernardo Huberman, study email communication patterns and communities among networks of people. The trio wondered if they could identify distinct communities within Hewlett-Packard's research lab simply by analysing the IT manager's log of nearly 200,000 internal emails sent by 485 employees over a couple of months. This was talked about at least 7-9 years ago. Affinity groups, clusters, etc. I remember this being discussed here on the list, in terms of CIA plots of affinity groups. Also, rumor tracing (figuring out where initial statements emanate from, partly by pattern analysis and causal graphs). The math was basically done 60 or 80 years ago: Ramsey theory. Wedding party problems (who knows whom at parties, how many can't know N other people, etc.) Graphs, partitions, combinatorics. The stuff Paul Erdos used his amphetamines to drive. I expect the news releases now are just part of the usual pattern of recycling old results to glom on to research dollars. --Tim May --Tim May "To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists." --John Ashcroft, U.S. Attorney General --Tim May (.sig for Everything list background) Corralitos, CA. Born in 1951. Retired from Intel in 1986. Current main interest: category and topos theory, math, quantum reality, cosmology. Background: physics, Intel, crypto, Cypherpunks
Re: Enraptured in Babylon
At 10:04 PM 03/27/2003 -0600, Neil Johnson wrote: Tim, you must be psyhic ... Just saw this banner ad at wired.com (They must be real hard up for revenue). The text of the ad: SHOWDOWN: IRAQ -> IS THIS THE SIGN OF END TIMES ? Find out from Tim LaHaye and other end time scholars ! Subscribe to the "Left Behind" Prophecy Club ! Clicking on the ad sends you to: http://secure.agoramedia.com/index_leftbehind.html [] Guess the revenue from "Left Behind" Books is starting to slip... While that's possible, it's also possible that somebody's trying to exploit an already-working popularity trend. Agoramedia sells self-help books and such.
RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV
hi, All this happening on the worlds greatest demcoracy. may be you read this news. http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=tech&cat=hackers_and_crackers Unofficial reports are that 500 iraqi's died 2 days ago and day before yesterday another 1000 died.This is the word comming from Saudi-from friends.Dunno if the casualities are iraqi civilains or the army. US bombers are any way doing cluster bombing in civilian areas.They are finding it hard to hit armoured vehicles since they are well spread out in distinct patterns.US has told iraq to treat US soldiers as pow's and follow the geneva convention.they showed images of 3 US pow's,one women and 2 men-one of them were bandaged on their head.These had appeared a few hours after US made a press conference saying that they had taken 3000 iraqi's pow's and there were no US pow's. Iraq replied by asking them to follow the geneva convention and not to do cluster bombing in civilan areas. In any case US military pow's are going to have a hard time and since U.S didnot give pow status to *suspected* Al-Queda/taliban militants captured in afghan war-no body is going to put pressure on iraq either. Regards Sarath. --- Mike Rosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Vincent Penquerc'h wrote: > > > Yup, I get it from the UK, though I didn't get it > two and three > > days ago. URLs are all in English, though this may > be normal. > > > > BTW, does anyone know about www.aljezeerah.info ? > I've been > > getting my news from there since the start of the > war, but I don't > > know what links it has with, say, > www.aljazeera.net, since I never > > got there before. It's all in English, but I'm not > sure about the > > actual affiliation and editorial "line", if anyone > can shed some > > light. > > It's definitly jammed in the US. I get "503 - out > of resources error". > Maybe you guys can set up a mirror that isn't jammed > and the US can see it > that way (at least until the feds catch wind of it). > > Patience, persistence, truth, > Dr. mike > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: aljazeera.net hacked again?
On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Jamie Lawrence wrote: > Any other images? any Photoshop-pro can handle that. So... what are you > showing me and mine? Even no need for photoshoppery. These deeply embedded "reporters" have been producing fake fights (and badly faked at that so you could see it for yourself), as evidenced by frame-by-frame analysis. Moreover, same imagery has been sold as different fights in different locations by the idiot press. Made quite a splash on kraut "Panorama" yesterday (or day before). If it wasn't for actual people being shredded this war would be one colossal joke.
Re: aljazeera.net hacked again?
AJ are being hammered at the moment - I'm getting timeouts to them & the picture I'm trying to look at is loading at 91 bits a second Either they are very popular or else the DoSsers are onto them big-time.
Re: Enraptured in Babylon
Tim, you must be psyhic ... Just saw this banner ad at wired.com (They must be real hard up for revenue). The text of the ad: SHOWDOWN: IRAQ -> IS THIS THE SIGN OF END TIMES ? Find out from Tim LaHaye and other end time scholars ! Subscribe to the "Left Behind" Prophecy Club ! Clicking on the ad sends you to: http://secure.agoramedia.com/index_leftbehind.html There they will send you a free sample of their weekly newsletter, IF you send them your e-mail address. If you want more, its ONLY $29.95 for a subscription which includes access to their "members only" website. >From the Web Page: Join Now and Find Out ! - Is the UN a precursor of the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT prophesized in the Bible ? - Could the ANTICHRIST be alive now? If so, how can he identify so does not deceive us? (That's the exact way the text is written) - Are ATM's and other revolutions in global banking foretelling of THE MARK OF THE BEAST ? (I always thought RAH might be an agent of Satan :) ) Guess the revenue from "Left Behind" Books is starting to slip... -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.
Re: Things are looking better all the time
hi, That cannot possibly even happen-by mistake.Al-jazeera is qatar based.They might hit a chinese embassy but not AL-Jazeera. 1500 turkish troops moved into north iraq-US cannot immediately do any thing about it since flying over Turkish air space is important for them. Sarath. (Before Al Jazeera is > accidentally bombed off the > air.) > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: Things are looking better all the time [TERROR ALERT: Cerenkov Blue]
John Kelsey wrote: > I wasn't thinking of Al Qaida. There are a *lot* of people who might like > to have a last-ditch deterrent against a US invasion or other action. I can think of a few workable deterrents against US invasion: - ICBMS - an army with a reputation of fighting nastily when attacked - a serious US-based political lobby friendly to the country Russian, China, and Britain have all three. France has one and two halves these days. The logic is that Israel should join the permanent membership of the Security Council - and India is a candidate as well. That's all the permanent members are really, a gang of countries who agreed not to fight each other because they had the nukes, so had to be sure to tell the others when they were going to pick on third-party country in case two of them picked on the same victim and ended up fighting each other by accident. The Security Council was nothing to do with the rule of international law (bye-bye Richard-Might-is-Right-Perle, I hope the rest of the warmongers take the pension-reducing plunge soon) and everything to do with the logic of MAD and carving up the world into spheres on influence. (And North Korea is in the Chinese sphere of influence, which is why the US leaves policing their nukes up to China.)
