Re: [darktable-user] Darktable 4.4 on Ubuntu 22.04

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,

On 04/07/2023 02:50, Niranjan Rao wrote:
It's not clear to me if latest release of darktable is supported on 
22.04. Opensuse OBS repository shows darktable 4.4 only for 23.04. Is 
it supported on Ubuntu 22.04? 



I run 22.04.  This morning DT updated to 4.4.1 via a simple nala update 
/ upgrade.  Still running terribly slow though when compared to prior 
4.2 version.  Opencl is showing as activated so I am at a loss how to 
investigate this slow performance further.



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Re: [darktable-user] 4.4.0 on Ubuntu 22.04 UPDATE

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Update

On 02/07/2023 23:11, Francesco Scaglioni wrote:
Thank you for the latest update to 4.4.0 but I have a problem.  Prior 
to this opencl was working fine and no issues.  Received the update 
automatically and although DT states that opencl is enabled when I 
enter darkroom mode the performance seems to be that of a non-opencl 
system ie. very slow when compared to prior version.


Running on an nvidia / dell system that has not had any issues with DT 
in the past.


Running darktable -d opencl -d perf reveals that all processes seem 
blisteringly fast except demosaic which took 3.7 seconds.  Camera is 
fuji X100V with which DT 4.2 was much faster.


Still any suggestions much appreciated.


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[darktable-user] 4.4.0 on Ubuntu 22.04

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,

Thank you for the latest update to 4.4.0 but I have a problem.  Prior to 
this opencl was working fine and no issues.  Received the update 
automatically and although DT states that opencl is enabled when I enter 
darkroom mode the performance seems to be that of a non-opencl system 
ie. very slow when compared to prior version.


Running on an nvidia / dell system that has not had any issues with DT 
in the past.


Any suggestions much appreciated.

Regards,

Francesco


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[darktable-user] DT 4.0 - show all images ? problem

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,

I have failed to find the answer for this but apologies if I have missed 
it.  Historically I have had DT set zero stars on import ( I then add 1 
star to images I might want to look further at, 2 starts for images that 
I am working on etc etc ).


I cannot find a way to show images with 1 star at the same time as all 
unstared / not yet assessed images.


Is there an easy solution or should I try and re-work my workflow ?

Cheers,

F


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Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] 3.8.1 Under expose / black level warning error ?

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,

On 14/02/2022 21:24, Bruce Williams wrote:

Also, try disabling filmic RGB temporarily.
That will allow shadows to clip, where filmic is rounding them off 
gently to prevent clipping.



Interesting.  I disabled filmic and pushed the black level up ( RGB 
levels ) until the darkest part of the image showed 1,1,0 ( Colour 
picker ).  That area was showing as underexposed ( Blue in my case ).  I 
then re-engaged filmic, the chosen area then registered as 0.0.0 but the 
underexposure / blue warning disappeared for that area.  Almost as if 
filmic, under certain circumstances, is disabling the underexposure 
warning ( or am I just miserably failing to understand what filmic is 
actually doing - quite possible ).






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[darktable-user] 3.8.1 Under expose / black level warning error ?

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi

Running 3.8.1 on Ubuntu 20.04 with images from a Fujifilm XT-3.

I often use the ( " Keyboard default  O " ) highlights and shadows 
warning.  It appears that the highlights warning is working but that the 
shadows ( defaults to blue ) may not be ?  Or am I missing some numpty 
configuration option ?


Any suggestions much appreciated.

Cheers,

F



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Re: [darktable-user] Numpty EXIF display question

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,
On 25/01/2022 14:14, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
make the displayed image fit within the size of the display 


So simple and obvious - apologies and may thanks


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[darktable-user] Numpty EXIF display question

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,

Using DT 3.8.  If, when in light table, I hit W to show a full size 
image the exif display box shows exif data, stat rating, duplicate or 
not, modified in DT or not and then a small grey box ( lower right 
corner ) with the letters "fit" within it.


What does the FIT stand for ??

Many thanks,

F


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Re: [darktable-user] Logitech mouse for DT

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,

On 31/12/2021 15:20, Frank J. wrote:
Has anybody managed to configure the Logitech-mouse "MX Master" to 
control darktable on Linux (via logiops or solaar)?
For example: Use the thumb-wheel for exposure-slider. 


FWIW I have a logitech M330 set to control exposure : Ctrl + e ( 
Keyboard ) + mouse wheel will increment and decrement exposure ( Worked 
on 3.6 and now works on 3.8  )


Cheers,

F




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Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.8.0 released

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi

Oddly when I download DT 3.8 for ubuntu 20.04 from the open build 
service apt informs me that my current DT 3.6.1 will be downgraded.  If 
I try and install the downloaded deb via the gui installer I am informed 
that DT will be removed ??  When I add the open repository to sources 
and apt update I am informed that all packages are up to date.


Guess I need to wait a while.

F



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Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.8.0 released

[Francesco Scaglioni]

On 24/12/2021 20:09, Willy Williams wrote:


And in a rare stroke of brilliance, I decided to switch the "A" 
machine to display-referred, exit darktable, restart darktable, switch 
processing back to scene-referred, and /VOILA!/, the module order on 
the "A" machine is now in the preferred order.  Now I must display my 
penance to the module order gods by consuming a moderate quantity of 
Claret.




:)  :)

Nuff said



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Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.8.0 released

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,
On 24/12/2021 10:02, Pascal Obry wrote:

We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.8.0!


Thank you so much to all who have worked so hard to make DT available to 
us.  We are forever in your debt.


Best Wishes to you all

Cheers

Francesco




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Re: [darktable-user] New here, in over my head . . .

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Just a thought - if it is possible to scan the film to a raw format then you 
might get better results from the final jpegs when exported from DT.



From: Tanya Riseman 
Sent: 22 December 2021 16:25
To: Mediacombb; darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] New here, in over my head . . .

Try the negadoctor module. Type negadoctor in the search module spot. In the 
upper right hand corner, select "black and white film" from the drop-down menu.

For some reason, this module does not show up in the default suggested modules.

Hope this module does what you want. I have just played with it.

Tanya Riseman


On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 10:37 AM Mediacombb 
mailto:alfic...@mediacombb.net>> wrote:
. . . and possibly looking at entirely the wrong app.

I play with a camera that produces 6x4.5 120 negatives. I scan (photograph) 
those B/W  film negative images using my Nikon Zfc digital camera, saving the 
digital images as JPGs on an SD card.

What I want from this app, or for that matter some other app I'm apparently 
unawares, is to take the B/W digital negative images from the SD card in my MAC 
AIR and convert them into positive image JPGs, permitting me to then save them 
in the MAC AIR.

THAT's all I want; just convert negative images into positive images.

Is this the right app for me? Thanks for any advice,

alf, in Iowa
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Re: [darktable-user] Memory clock speed, any impact on darktable?

[Francesco Scaglioni]

FWIW : I have a GTX 1070 ( Ubuntu 20.04 ) and opencl makes a very 
significant difference for the better.



On 25/09/2021 08:33, Jack Bowling wrote:
Looks like your system is stable at 2400MHz so I would leave it there. 
However, I see you are running a GTX 1660 as am I. The best thing you 
could do to speed up processing if you haven't done it already is to 
activate opencl in darktable perferences. I run darktable on Ubuntu 
20.04 also but with opencl activated and it is noticeably faster than 
leaving the processing to the cpu (not all modules have been 
opencl-enabled, though).


Jack

On 2021-09-25 12:02 a.m., Michael Staats wrote:

Hi
It's actually a bit embarrassing to ask a hardware related question
here, I have never bothered much about hardware in the last 20 years ;-)

But ok, I recently checked my memory clock speed in the BIOS, it's set
to "Auto", which results in 2400 MHz. My memory modules should support
up to 3000 MHz. But when I set to 3000 MHz manually, the machine does
not boot, and I have set it back to "Auto" now.
.
Question: Is it worth to play around with some settings between 2400 MHz
and 3000 MHz? Is there any downside if, say, 2800 MHz works?

And most of all: Does it make any difference for darktable? Darktable is
the only program which challenges my hardware, I'm not a gamer or so.

For the records, my machine is an

ASUS PRIME B450M-A
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, 8x 3700 MHz
GeForce GTX 1660 StormX OC
4 x 8 GB DDR4 ("Ballistix Sport", 3000 MHz)
running Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS

Thanks in advance, best regards,
Michael

--
Michael Staats
michael.sta...@gmx.de
 


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Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.6 released

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Bernhard you are a star - thank you.  It was the ctrl-double_click bit 
that I was missing.


On 05/07/2021 21:57, Bernhard wrote:
In collection you select "folder", navigate to the parent folder 
(holiday) - you see nothing.
You press "ctrl" and double click - you see every picture of every 
subfolder




Francesco Scaglioni schrieb am 05.07.21 um 20:20:
Firstly and most important - many thanks to all that have worked so 
hard to make this major release possible.


I am however, confused about one thing ( so far, I am sure that there 
will be more ) :


In the past, when in light table view it was possible to navigate to 
a directory ( that contained several several sub-directories that had 
all previously been imported ) and select it for opening.  I believe 
there was a setting that determined the max number of sub-directories 
that could be traversed / nested ).


Use case : I have a folder from a holiday that contains sub-folders 
of images by date.  I then wish to open all images from that holiday.


I cannot seem to find this option within 3.6.

Apologies if this is a numpty question but any suggestions much 
appreciated.


Cheers,

F






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Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.6 released

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Firstly and most important - many thanks to all that have worked so hard 
to make this major release possible.


I am however, confused about one thing ( so far, I am sure that there 
will be more ) :


In the past, when in light table view it was possible to navigate to a 
directory ( that contained several several sub-directories that had all 
previously been imported ) and select it for opening.  I believe there 
was a setting that determined the max number of sub-directories that 
could be traversed / nested ).


Use case : I have a folder from a holiday that contains sub-folders of 
images by date.  I then wish to open all images from that holiday.


I cannot seem to find this option within 3.6.

Apologies if this is a numpty question but any suggestions much appreciated.

Cheers,

F



On 03/07/2021 09:14, Pascal Obry wrote:
We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.6.0! 
The github release is here: 
[https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.6.0) 
. As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by 
github, but only our tar.xz file. the checksums are: ``` $ sha256sum 
darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz 
86bcd0184af38b93c3688dffd3d5c19cc65f268ecf9358d649fa11fe26c70a39 
darktable-3.6.0.tar.xz $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg 
12c9319d68dac5b1b5602bf470254467b90f5c5b9d2e93ea081d42884cfd4f80 
darktable-3.6.0.3.dmg $ sha256sum darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe 
aad925988545ff3c50f54243520e8481c695b38b209daa808a490113f6400374 
darktable-3.6.0-win64.exe ``` When updating from the currently stable 
3.4.x series, please bear in mind that your edits will be preserved 
during this process, but the new library and configuration will not be 
usable with 3.4.x any more. You are strongly advised to take a backup 
first.  Important note: to make sure that darktable can keep on 
supporting the raw file format for your camera, *please* read [this 
post](https://discuss.pixls.us/t/raw-samples-wanted/5420?u=lebedevri) 
on how/what raw samples you can contribute to ensure that we have the 
*full* raw sample set for your camera under CC0 license! - Almost 2680 
commits to darktable+rawspeed since 3.4 - 954 pull requests handled - 
290 issues closed ## The Big Ones - Full rework of the import module. 
The new module allows you to see thumbnails of your images before 
import and makes it easier to handle multiple import tasks. The same 
dialog is now used for importing from disk, card or camera. When 
importing "in-place", images that are already present in darktable are 
flagged and can be automatically excluded from the import. Importing 
from a local drive won't use gphoto and so should work more reliably 
on Windows. - A vector-scope is added to complement the current 
histogram, waveform and parade views. - A new default demosaic 
algorithm (RCD) has been introduced, which should provide better 
quality than the current default (PPG) without the long run- times of 
AMaZE. the order of the demosaic algorithms has also been adjusted for 
clarity. - Support for "dual demosaic" has also been added, allowing 
you to combine "RCD + VNG4" and "AMaZE + VNG4" for bayer sensors, for 
xtrans sensors there is "Markesteijn 3-pass + VNG". This allows you to 
use an algorithm better resolving fine detail and another one 
delivering smoother output depending on local image content. - You can 
now create an opacity mask based on the sharpness of the image. This 
uses a similar algorithm to that used in dual demosaic. - Drawn shapes 
are drawn on the original RAW image and then distorted through the 
pixelpipe. This previously led to, for example, circles becoming 
ellipses (due to lens distortion) after being placed on the image. All 
drawn shapes can now be pre-visualized and moved prior to placement, 
with full deformation applied. This makes the editing of masks easier 
fully WYSIWYG. - A new Color Balance RGB module has been added. This 
can be used as a one stop module for all color grading work. - A new 
censorize module has been added. This allows you to hide parts of the 
image by adding a blur/pixelization. - A new crop module has been 
added. This new module has been added late in the pixelpipe and makes 
it possible to use cropped parts of the image for source spots in the 
retouch module, for example. - A new section has been added to the 
color calibration module to allow you to calibrate colors using a 
color checker chart. - The map module has been enhanced in a number of 
ways: - When importing a GPX the trace can be displayed. - Location 
can be set using polygons and directly created from information 
reported by Open Street Map. As a reminder, all locations create tags 
automatically for images placed into the area. - The basic adjustments 
module has been replaced with the quick access panel, which can be 
used to group controls from multiple different modules in one place. 
Currently, only 

[darktable-user] OT ( Completely ) - reg ex advice

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi

On the off chance that the FOSS community are more likely to know about 
reg excs


I have a number of docs that contain on a single line ( multiple times ) :

FName SName - Month D,   ( Then names and dates vary )

I wish to change these to :

-mm-dd - FName SName

The system proves a "Find and replace" option using regular expressions.

Is anyone able to point me in a suitable direction ?

Many, many thanks,

Cheers

Francesco


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Re: [darktable-user] darktable 3.4.1 released

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Many thanks to all.  The PPA for ubuntu 20.04 has already been updated 
to 3.4.1 which was a pleasant surprise this morning



On 06/02/2021 14:06, Willy Williams wrote:


Thank you, Pascal and all the developers!

Willy

***

On 2/6/2021 at 04:33, Pascal Obry wrote:
We're proud to announce the new feature release of darktable, 3.4.1! 
The github release is here: 
[https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.4.1](https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.4.1) 
. As always, please don't use the autogenerated tarball provided by 
github, but only our tar.xz. the checksums are: ``` $ sha256sum 
darktable-3.4.1.tar.xz 
7fc3f851da9bcd7c5053ecd09f21aa3eb6103be98a6c58f52010b6f22174941e 
darktable-3.4.1.tar.xz $ sha256sum darktable-3.4.1.dmg 
e13112ed1d5f9c55e5287aa9d7276f04b90909b2e356640f36227a0a53321658 
darktable-3.4.1.dmg $ sha256sum darktable-3.4.1-win64.exe 
94f6f0999378a541b25bd030838b508882d2bace86a95c898a30ca32c406c3f8 
darktable-3.4.1-win64.exe ``` When updating from the currently stable 
3.2.x series, please bear in mind that your edits will be preserved 
during this process, but the new library and configuration will not 
be usable with 3.2.x any more, so you are strongly advised to take a 
backup first.  Important note: to make sure that darktable can 
keep on supporting the raw file format for your camera, *please* read 
[this 
post](https://discuss.pixls.us/t/raw-samples-wanted/5420?u=lebedevri) 
on how/what raw samples you can contribute to ensure that we have the 
*full* raw sample set for your camera under CC0 license! - Almost 100 
commits to darktable+rawspeed since 3.4 - 25 pull requests handled - 
18 issues closed ## The Big Ones None ## New Features And Changes - 
Faster thumbnail generation during import. - Some minor CSS 
improvements. ## Bug fixes - Fix color correction RGB handling and 
saturation normalization. - Fix smooth scrolling on MacOS. - Fix Lr 
metadata import, this is done only if no other XMP present. - Fix 
metadata export which must be done only if the corresponding setting 
is activated. - Fix combo-box popup scrolling. - Properly restore 
collection hinter messages when needed. - Fix stars display in 
overlay. - Fix black point setting when dragging the histogram. - Fix 
help links for technical group module. - Properly discriminate 
cameras with the same prefix in collect module. - Fix bold rendering 
on Windows (for selected presets for example). - Fix support of 
Windows PATH to configuration and libraries when the path name 
contains non ASCII characters. - Properly hide the selected tag tick 
when a tag is not selected anymore. - Fix search on collect module 
for multiple filename separated with coma. - Fix size of clipping 
handle when preview down-sampling is activated. - Fix metadata 
comment reading from exif. - Fix a case where the thumbnail could be 
out of synchronization with the darkroom edit. - Never show filmstrip 
cursor on selected image on other views. - Skip possible null dates 
on the collect module which could then crash darktable. - Fix 
waveform histogram rendering on MacOS. - Fix some memory leaks. ## 
Notes ## Lua ## Changed Dependencies ## RawSpeed changes ## Camera 
support, compared to 3.4.0 ### White Balance Presets - Fujifilm 
X-Pro3 - Fujifilm X100V - Olympus E-M10 Mark IV ### Noise Profiles - 
Canon EOS 1500D - Canon EOS 2000D - Canon EOS Rebel T7 - Canon EOS-1D 
X Mark II - Fujifilm X-Pro3 - Fujifilm XF10 - Nikon Z 5 - Panasonic 
DC-S1R - Pentax K-1 Mark II - Sony DSC-RX10M4 ## Translations - 
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Re: [darktable-user] DT 3.4.0 : export print size issue

[Francesco Scaglioni]

In Bruce's excellent video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7adCF2FvU8 
at 6 mins 10 => ) the long axis dimension is shown.


If a raw image is cropped during "developing" then at present the final 
image size cannot be see from any lightable view apart from 
theoretically in export for print module.  In the video max image 
dimension is autopopulated into the relevant field.  In my installation 
that data entry box remains at zero.  At the same time the "Export 
width" and "Export height" fields under "Image information" ( on the 
left ) remain empty.  ( See attached ).  What I am trying to find is an 
indication of the max available dimensions without having to open the 
image in darkroom mode and fiddle with the crop module.


Any suggestions much appreciated

Cheers

F



On 03/01/2021 13:37, Willy Williams wrote:


Read section 2.3.14.1 in TFM online, if you haven't already.  You can 
tell darktable what size you need (in. or cm.), but if you tell it 
only one dimension needed (height or width), darktable will not 
automagically "fill in the blank" such that you can see it. It will 
scale appropriately, though.


Willy Williams

-- "You don't take a picture. You ask quietly and humbly to borrow 
it." - Unknown --

On 1/3/21 7:58 AM, Francesco Scaglioni wrote:


Hi

Using DT 3.4.0 on ubuntu 20.04 ( from deb ).  Please forvgive me if 
numpty question.


Take a fuji raw file that has been "processed" but not exported.

My understanding of the intention of this is that I can set 300 dpi 
and the export dialogue would show me the max sixe of print possible 
at that resolution.  If I choose to enter eg 9 inches ( long axis ) 
the module would show the short axis dimension and then output a jpeg 
at that size.  The jpeg does get exported at 2700 which is correct 
but there is no given indication of the max print size or of the 
short axis.


Any suggestions much appreciated - or am I just a numpty and am 
missing the obvious.


Many Thanks

F


 
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[darktable-user] DT 3.4.0 : export print size issue

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi

Using DT 3.4.0 on ubuntu 20.04 ( from deb ).  Please forvgive me if 
numpty question.


Take a fuji raw file that has been "processed" but not exported.

My understanding of the intention of this is that I can set 300 dpi and 
the export dialogue would show me the max sixe of print possible at that 
resolution.  If I choose to enter eg 9 inches ( long axis ) the module 
would show the short axis dimension and then output a jpeg at that size. 
The jpeg does get exported at 2700 which is correct but there is no 
given indication of the max print size or of the short axis.


Any suggestions much appreciated - or am I just a numpty and am missing 
the obvious.


Many Thanks

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Re: [darktable-user] Importing from camera

[Francesco Scaglioni]

FWIW : "Rapid photo downloader" is a superb piece of software for card 
imports


On 31/12/2020 14:14, DougC wrote:
I concur with Anton. I use Beyond Compare from Scooter Software for 
file copying to/from SD cards. Works far faster and more reliably than 
native operations. Available for Windows, Mac, and Linux. Well worth 
the small price.


I've never understood why photo editing software needs to include the 
file copying operation. Not an essential feature, IMO.




 
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Re: [darktable-user] Images disapear when switching from Darkroom to lightable view

[Francesco Scaglioni]

FWIW : darktable 3.2.1 from ubuntu repos on a dell desktop.  Nvidia 
driver and opencl working.  Sometimes ( I cannot yet blame a specific 
module ) when finished with am image, press L to return to filemanager ( 
I never use light table ) and I am presented wiht a uniform grey 
rectangle filling the space where the thumbnails should be.  This slab 
of grey does not respond to either keyboard or mouse input.  Solution : 
select a previous film roll ( images appear stat ) then reselct the 
current roll ( images also appear stat - ie no processing delay ).  The 
issue is intermittent and I have not yet figured out a consistent set of 
circumstances.  There is an issue - albeit a trivial one with an easy 
work around.


( Also posted at the bottom for those that prefer it )

On 25/09/2020 22:00, Marc Sitkin wrote:

Hi Patrick,

Not sure I need to. My problem comes and goes, and I can work around 
it. More curiosity than anything else. Thanks


On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 4:36 PM Patrick Shanahan > wrote:


* Marc Sitkin mailto:marcsit...@gmail.com>>
[09-25-20 15:29]:
> OP here. To replace my library, do I need to toss the old one
and reimport
> all my images? If so, do I lose my module presets, or are these
stored
> elsewhere? Thanks
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 1:42 PM Patrick Shanahan
mailto:p...@opensuse.org>> wrote:
>
> > * David Vincent-Jones mailto:david...@gmail.com>> [01-01-70 12:34]:
> > > Slightly different:
> > >
> > > While in the file-manager view I am finding 'misplaced'
images ... images
> > > from another roll ... and when I try to open them another
image from the
> > > loaded roll appears in the darkroom view. It looks like a
data-base
> > error.
> > >
> > > Current daily git ..Manjaro/Arch/XFCE
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > On 2020-09-24 9:00 p.m., Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > > > * Terry Pinfold mailto:tpinf...@gmail.com>> [09-24-20 23:48]:
> > > > > " get out of "zoomable lighttable" into "filemanager"
mode and you
> > will not
> > > > > have this confusion."
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for this simple solution.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 13:39, Patrick Shanahan
mailto:p...@opensuse.org>>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > * Terry Pinfold mailto:tpinf...@gmail.com>> [09-24-20 23:21]:
> > > > > > > In zoomable lighttable mode I can move the images
around and
> > tend to lose
> > > > > > > them. However, I discovered today that if I minimise
the left or
> > right
> > > > > > > panels that they are hiding there. Not a major
problem to me,
> > but makes
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > look stupid when I am teaching students how to use
the program
> > and I lose
> > > > > > > the images.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 12:58, Andrew Greig <
> > and...@algphoto.com.au >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Terry,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On reading your message, I tried to move my images
around in
> > > > > > Lighttable,
> > > > > > > > but the only setting which allowed that was
"custom sort" and
> > having
> > > > > > moved
> > > > > > > > an image from one place to the other on the light
table I
> > tried (CTRL+
> > > > > > z)
> > > > > > > > to no effect, of course I could manually move the
image back
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Andrew Greig
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 25/9/20 11:06 am, Terry Pinfold wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In lighttable if you left click and drag your
mouse around the
> > > > > > placement
> > > > > > > > of the images is changed. While this can be
helpful, sometimes
> > I
> > > > > > manage to
> > > > > > > > completely lose the images and have to get out of
that film
> > roll and
> > > > > > come
> > > > > > > > back into it. This might be similar to your
problem. I would
> > benefit
> > > > > > from a
> > > > > > > > keyboard shortcut to bring back the images
quickly. There may
> > be one
> > > > > > > > already, but I don't know what it would be. In Adobes
> > Lightroom they
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > the letter G to return to grid view.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > cheers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dr Terry Pinfold
> > > > > > > > Cytometry & Histology Lab Manager
> > > > > > > > Lecturer in Flow Cytometry
> > > > > > > > University of Tasmania
> > > > > > > > 17 Liverpool St, Hobart, 7000
> > > > > > > > Ph 6226 4846 or 0408 699053
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > *From:* Marc Sitkin 

Re: [darktable-user] Adding/changing datetime

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Slightly OT : "Rapid photo downloader" ( Damon Lynch ) - all images in 
folders by date and image filenames by date, "JobCode" and unique 
number.  Easiest system I have found.



On 16/08/2020 08:02, David Vincent-Jones wrote:


All of my folders carry the date ... and I generally download daily 
 that makes it easy.


On 16.08.20 08:52, Tobias Krause wrote:

Hi,

in my database there are a bunch of pictures missing the "datetime"
information. Unfortunately there is now way I could get the original 
files.


Is there a way add/change datetime within darktable - have at least the
correct day would be key to filtering by date...

Regards,
Tobias
 


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[darktable-user] OT : printer in the UK

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,

Subject says it.  Any suggestions for a good photo print service in the UK

Cheers

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Re: [darktable-user] 2.6.0 ? altered export behaviour

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Thanks Isabelle - I am being dumber than usual and cannot seem to find 
the setting for filter group leaders ??


On 17/01/2019 09:58, Isabelle Hurbain-Palatin wrote:

Hi Francesco,
Since I ran into that one as well, and looked into it yesterday - this 
comes, as far as I can tell, from the fix of 
https://redmine.darktable.org/issues/8968
To go back to the previous behaviour, you need to add a filter on the 
collection to only consider "group leaders" in the grouping - then 
whatever you do only applies to the "group leader" of the group, which 
in your case (and mine ;) ) would be the RAW file.

HTH,
Isabelle

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:53 AM Francesco Scaglioni <mailto:f...@mossdog.net>> wrote:


Hi,

Thanks to all for DT in the first instance.

Historically when shooting raw + jpeg, displaying only raw on
light table, selecting raw image and clicking export only the raw
would be exported.  I now find that when only raw is displayed an
I select the visible image for export that the accompanying camera
jpeg gets exported as well ( unaltered ).  I presume that I have
changed a setting but cannot for the life of me figure out which.

Any suggestions much appreciated

Cheers

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[darktable-user] 2.6.0 ? altered export behaviour

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,

Thanks to all for DT in the first instance.

Historically when shooting raw + jpeg, displaying only raw on light 
table, selecting raw image and clicking export only the raw would be 
exported.  I now find that when only raw is displayed an I select the 
visible image for export that the accompanying camera jpeg gets exported 
as well ( unaltered ).  I presume that I have changed a setting but 
cannot for the life of me figure out which.


Any suggestions much appreciated

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RE: [darktable-user] Batch renaming software?

[Francesco Scaglioni]

FWIW : I use rapid photo downloader for import and then ( when I mess up the 
import ) thunar for renaming.  Seems to do the job.

From: kneops [kne...@gmail.com]
Sent: 09 November 2018 09:34
To: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Batch renaming software?

I always use Geeqie (on Linux). Great and fast image viewer (including raw) and 
supports wildcards.




Op 09-11-18 om 02:21 schreef August Schwerdfeger:
Can anybody recommend any good batch-renaming packages? I am specifically 
looking to replace a homebrew Python script that uses exposure-compensation 
metadata to identify sets of photos taken using autobracketing (preferably with 
something I can invoke from within Darktable).

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Re: [darktable-user] The Good Knight

[Francesco Scaglioni]

+1 a bog / fat another one :))

On 02/04/18 17:51, Jean-Luc CECCOLI wrote:


+1

> Message du 02/04/18 09:49
> De : "Bernd" 
> A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
> Copie à :
> Objet : Re: [darktable-user] The Good Knight
>
>I although want to complain!
>
> But only about people who always have to complain about everything!
>
> Hey here are some developers who do a great job with DT and they
want to have some fun as well.
> Everybody get the Software for free. If you dont like it spend
several hundred $ and buy you some software without fun.
>
> But dont complain here.
>
> The detail with the easter egg was very nice, too.
>
> To the developers from DT: Great job!
>
> Best regards bernd
>
>
>
Am 2. April 2018 04:44:53 MESZ schrieb August Schwerdfeger
:

From the joke screen, you can press "L" to go to the light table.
>
>
People complain about this every year. I myself was just using
Darktable today to show some photos on a projector and had to
explain the joke to my audience when the screen came up.
Perhaps, since the developers assure us
 that it is not
going to be removed from Darktable, a section should be added
to the user manual to explain how to make the joke screen go away.
>

>
--
>
August Schwerdfeger
>
aug...@schwerdfeger.name 
>

>
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 8:03 PM, Charlie Goodwin
>
wrote:
>

This is incredibly stupid. I cannot get to the program.

>
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 3:25 PM, J Albrecht
> wrote:
>


>

On 01 Apr 2018, at 21:22, Chris
> wrote:

> Hi,

> What is this 'The Dark Table Team Presents The
Good Knight' rubbish that appears when I try to
open DarkTable?

> Some random DOS game? Makes me not trust this
app one bit any more!

> Chris
>


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>
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that this is darktable’s annual April Fool’s joke.
Don’t sweat it, it’ll be gone tomorrow!


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Re: [darktable-user] Export preset

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,

On 04/03/18 16:02, darkta...@911networks.com wrote:


Exactly. I'd like 3 different sizes and resolutions and add a suffix
to the filename to indicate each resolution/size



I routine export twice ( 2 different sizes into 2 different target 
folders ) with an S-filname.jpeg for the small one.  To be able to do 
this semi-automagically would be a real winner.


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Re: [darktable-user] Move folder with sub-folders ?

[Francesco Scaglioni]

On 26/12/17 14:54, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Francesco Scaglioni <f...@mossdog.net> [12-26-17 09:34]:

On 26/12/17 14:01, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Francesco Scaglioni <f...@mossdog.net> [12-26-17 08:00]:

Hi,

An old chestnut but hoping there may be a solution now.  I need to move a
years worth of images to a different drive.
They are organised by folder :
2016/1601-January/160102-project
  /160124-another-project etc etc
2016/1602-February/160215-project

What I would like to do is simply just move the 2016 folder.

Thus not have to manually recreate a folder structure, open every folder
again in DT to confirm xmp files exist, remove all images ( a folder at a
time from the database ), move them a folder at a time and then re-import
them. !

There must be a easier way

Any suggestions much appreciated.


if you are moving *all* which contain "/2016/" in the directory/file
structure, consider:
   in lighttable view
 collect images reset parameters
 collect images folders %/2016/%
 select select all
 selected imagesremove

move the complete structure "/2016/*" to the new location

   in lighttable view
 import
 folder choose new location: xxx/xxx/2016   

to hedge against mistakes, make a copy of your library.db before starting
and copy your images to the new location rather than moving them.

if all appears to be as desired, delete the old location images and the
library.db copy



Thanks so much for the quick reply.  I'll run a couple of backups and then
will give it a go.


backups are always good, but not always necessary.  you just need a backup
(or copy) of ~/.config/darktable/library.db and to retain your present
photo structure until satisfied with the move.

ps: unless containing private/sensitive information conversations should
remain on list where other interested might follow.

ps1: there is another way to accomplish your move but probably somewhat
slower and maybe safer but safer is debatible.  instead of "remove" the
images after selecting all, you could "move" the images using dt as the
file handler.  you can even create the new file structure with dt.
  personally, I would do as I first stated.  I believe it will be safe
  and much faster.

ps2: and I might even be an "older chestnut" :)

ymmv, gud luk



Apologies - like a young dolt I just keyboarded to reply rather than 
mouse click to reply-list ( Alzheimer's is a terrible thing you know ).


I certainly am an old chestnut !

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[darktable-user] Move folder with sub-folders ?

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,

An old chestnut but hoping there may be a solution now.  I need to move 
a years worth of images to a different drive.

They are organised by folder :
2016/1601-January/160102-project
 /160124-another-project etc etc
2016/1602-February/160215-project

What I would like to do is simply just move the 2016 folder.

Thus not have to manually recreate a folder structure, open every folder 
again in DT to confirm xmp files exist, remove all images ( a folder at 
a time from the database ), move them a folder at a time and then 
re-import them. !


There must be a easier way

Any suggestions much appreciated.

Cheers,

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Re: [darktable-user] Filter by star ? not working

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,

Am not sure if this is relevant ( cannot see how but then I am not 
technical )


On 27/11/17 18:21, Francesco Scaglioni wrote:

Hi,

DT 2.2.5 on ubuntu 16.04 via PPA.

Scenario : 22 images showing in a folder ( shot raw + jpeg ) and show 
groups set to off.  Apply 1 star to 4 raw images.  Select show 1* or 
more from dropdown and no images displayed ( screen message says no 
images in this collection ).  If I select show unstared images only then 
the started images are excluded ( ? ! ).  Turning groups on / off makes 
no difference.




On launching DT from command line I get the following error(s) repeated 
many times


X server found. dri2 connection failed!
DRM_IOCTL_I915_GEM_APERTURE failed: Invalid argument
Assuming 131072kB available aperture size.
May lead to reduced performance or incorrect rendering.
get chip id failed: -1 [22]
param: 4, val: 0

The failure of filter by star rating still applies.

Any suggestions appreciated

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[darktable-user] Filter by star ? not working

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,

DT 2.2.5 on ubuntu 16.04 via PPA.

Scenario : 22 images showing in a folder ( shot raw + jpeg ) and show 
groups set to off.  Apply 1 star to 4 raw images.  Select show 1* or 
more from dropdown and no images displayed ( screen message says no 
images in this collection ).  If I select show unstared images only then 
the started images are excluded ( ? ! ).  Turning groups on / off makes 
no difference.


Any suggestions much appreciated.

Cheers

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Re: [darktable-user] 01:04:2017

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Excellent and many thanks. Takes me back to college days.

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>> Can it be made a
>> > >> permanent module?
>> > Hint: Konami code ;)
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Re: [darktable-user] Move to new dual drive machine advice

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Hi

However I am not sure exactly what the above should achieve ( mu
failing )


The rewrites the folders location in the db. (I tried it once and it
worked for me)



Sounds exactly what I need - need to experiment in a " sandbox " as teh 
thought of losing the sync between images and db is scary.


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Re: [darktable-user] Move to new dual drive machine advice

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi,

On 05/02/17 17:00, darkta...@911networks.com wrote:

On Sun, 5 Feb 2017 13:18:14 +
Francesco Scaglioni <f...@mossdog.net> wrote:


I recreated the folder structure for /home/me/photos/2003
in /home/me/Media/MediaPhotos/2003

Imported original 2003 recursively in to DT, select all and copy
to /home/fgs/media/MediaPhotos/2003

All images ended up in home/fgs/media/MediaPhotos/2003 and the
subdirs there were ignored :((


Hopefully, you a backup.

1. Restore from the library.db from before the move
2. lighttable > collect > folders

In the box: right click > search film rolls:

http://i.imgur.com/T8G258l.png

Would that help?



I copied 2016 and 2017 ( with sub-dirs ) to the correct locations. 
Swapped in the " new " DT db ans replaced it with the old one and tried 
the above and ended up with a screen full of skulls (::


However I am not sure exactly what the above should achieve ( mu failing )

Cheers

Francesco

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Re: [darktable-user] Move to new dual drive machine advice

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi

On 05/02/17 13:00, Remco Viëtor wrote:

Does darktable have a problem with symbolic links? If not, why not have:
"/home/me/Photos/2017/..." for current year as direct storage on SSD
"/home/me/Photos/2016" as a symbolic link to "/home/me/media/photos/2016"
?
And the same for 2003--2015, so 14 folders to move, 14 symlinks to create;
sounds like a job for a bash script. Note that the number of folders under
the year is not important here.

At the end of the year:
*close DarkTable*
move /home/me/Photos/2017/... to /home/me/media/photos/
create a new directory for 2018
create a symlink for 2017



Darktable exports via a symlink to the correct target directory ( as 
pointed to via the link ) fine.  However if you try and delete an image 
from a directory accessed by symlink then DT fails to delete the image.


Cheers

Francesco

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Re: [darktable-user] Move to new dual drive machine advice

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi

If I ask DT to import recursively eg 2013 it will load the images from all
sub-folders.  If I then ask DT to copy or move them to a new 2013
destination it will do so but the folder structure below the original 2013
is not recreated in the new target folder and all images end up getting
placed in the new 2013 folder root.


Francesco, did you try creating the file system first?  Then try moving
recursively.




I recreated the folder structure for /home/me/photos/2003 in 
/home/me/Media/MediaPhotos/2003


Imported original 2003 recursively in to DT, select all and copy to 
/home/fgs/media/MediaPhotos/2003


All images ended up in home/fgs/media/MediaPhotos/2003 and the subdirs 
there were ignored :((


Cheers

Francesco

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Re: [darktable-user] Move to new dual drive machine advice

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi


If I ask DT to import recursively eg 2013 it will load the images from all
sub-folders.  If I then ask DT to copy or move them to a new 2013
destination it will do so but the folder structure below the original 2013
is not recreated in the new target folder and all images end up getting
placed in the new 2013 folder root.

With images going back to 2003, generally 12 sub-folders per year and then
sub-sub folders below that doing the whole thing one folder at a time would
be a real PITA.

Googling the issue resulted in a post from 2014 that suggested manually
editing the DB to change image paths - again, not only does this sound risky
but would need to be done for every folder thus not much to gain over using
the GUI.  What I was looking for was a way to eg select 2013/* and move it
en bloc whilst preserving the existing directory structure below 2013.






Francesco, did you try creating the file system first?  Then try moving
recursively.




I'll give it a go but that would still mean manually creating aprox 300 
folders ( I have no scripting ability and it is far too many years since 
I last wrote any perl to remeber how to do it )


Cheers

Francesco

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Re: [darktable-user] Move to new dual drive machine advice

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi

On 04/02/17 16:59, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Francesco Scaglioni <f...@mossdog.net> [02-04-17 11:50]:

Explain more to me the problem with dt not preserving the directory
structure.  And I do not know if dt's moves are recursive, you may need to
move each individual directory.



I can create the new folder structure locally that is not a problem.

The existing structure is :

home//me/Photos/year/month/projects( maybe up to 4 or 5 )/? sub-projects

If I ask DT to import recursively eg 2013 it will load the images from 
all sub-folders.  If I then ask DT to copy or move them to a new 2013 
destination it will do so but the folder structure below the original 
2013 is not recreated in the new target folder and all images end up 
getting placed in the new 2013 folder root.


With images going back to 2003, generally 12 sub-folders per year and 
then sub-sub folders below that doing the whole thing one folder at a 
time would be a real PITA.


Googling the issue resulted in a post from 2014 that suggested manually 
editing the DB to change image paths - again, not only does this sound 
risky but would need to be done for every folder thus not much to gain 
over using the GUI.  What I was looking for was a way to eg select 
2013/* and move it en bloc whilst preserving the existing directory 
structure below 2013.


Cheers

Francesco

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Re: [darktable-user] Move to new dual drive machine advice

[Francesco Scaglioni]

Hi

On 04/02/17 15:29, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> if your old system was /home/me/media
> why not set up your new system the same way, move the photos and
> accompanying xmp files from your old system to the new.  Don't forget to
> move the old /home/me/.config/darktable/* to the new
> /home/me/.config/darktable/
>
> (and maybe ~/.cache/darktable )

old system was /home/me(hdd)/Photos/***/*** etc ( Folders by year, month 
and sub-project)


new system : home/me(ssd)/media(hdd)/old photos
   : home/me(ssd)/something with current year image folders

I can easily move current year from within DT and preserve the DB that 
way.  The problem is to move /home/me/photos/old_stuff to :

/home/me/media/photos/**/**/** etc

Regards

Francesco

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