Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable Q2 and Q4

[Tobias Ellinghaus]

Am Freitag, 14. April 2017, 19:48:35 CEST schrieb Dr. Georg Troska:
> Hello Tobias,
> 
> I tried around a bit. Thank you very much for your hints.
> 
> 
> In principle the presets (Voreinstellung in german) do what I want. But
> are there meant to be used for such a case?
> 
> What happens if I create 200 presets - one for each album I want to
> create? Therefore I'm asking: Is is meant to be used for such purposes.
> I would like to suggest to make the presets or something similar visible
> in the same combo box where I select filmroll or folder or ..

I wouldn't create that many presets, finding the correct one would be a 
nightmare. Maybe in your case tags/keywords are an alternative?

> Georg

Tobias

> Am 12.04.2017 um 22:59 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus:
> >> thanks a lot for your answer:
> >> 
> >> I understand that I can select a filmroll and make an AND-search on e.g.
> >> pictures with a yellow tag. But I do not see a way to store the this
> >> virtual filmroll so that it appears somewhere as further filmroll or so.
> > 
> > The collect module supports presets.
> 
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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable Q2 and Q4

[Dr. Georg Troska]

Hello Tobias,

I tried around a bit. Thank you very much for your hints.


In principle the presets (Voreinstellung in german) do what I want. But 
are there meant to be used for such a case?


What happens if I create 200 presets - one for each album I want to 
create? Therefore I'm asking: Is is meant to be used for such purposes. 
I would like to suggest to make the presets or something similar visible 
in the same combo box where I select filmroll or folder or ..


Georg


Am 12.04.2017 um 22:59 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus:

thanks a lot for your answer:

I understand that I can select a filmroll and make an AND-search on e.g.
pictures with a yellow tag. But I do not see a way to store the this
virtual filmroll so that it appears somewhere as further filmroll or so.

The collect module supports presets.




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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable Q2 and Q4

[Tobias Ellinghaus]

Am Mittwoch, 12. April 2017, 21:37:37 CEST schrieb Dr. Georg Troska:
> Hello Remco,

Hi.

> thanks a lot for your answer:
> 
> I understand that I can select a filmroll and make an AND-search on e.g.
> pictures with a yellow tag. But I do not see a way to store the this
> virtual filmroll so that it appears somewhere as further filmroll or so.

The collect module supports presets.

[...]

> I'm importing a new set of pictures, usually I'm taking three pictures
> of the same kind with different exposures, so I need to select the best
> of each kind and somehow cover the others, but I do not want to delete
> them. And of course I'm covering really bad ones too. So what can I do
> to hide the unused pics?

Rate the bad ones with less stars and filter on that in the end.

> On the other side I would like to put some pictures in a "virtual"
> folder (e.g. "best pictures of 2017"), so I can export them to my
> digital picture frame. I'm just afraid tagging good pictures in one
> color or so is ok, but I will forget to which virtual album they belong.

Maybe use keywords.

> Do you understand my concern?
> 
> 
> Georg

Tobias

[...]

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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable Q2 and Q4

[Dr. Georg Troska]

Hello Remco,

thanks a lot for your answer:

I understand that I can select a filmroll and make an AND-search on e.g. 
pictures with a yellow tag. But I do not see a way to store the this 
virtual filmroll so that it appears somewhere as further filmroll or so.


I agree completely with the exporting, you're so right. I need to export 
anyhow


Let me give you an example:

I'm importing a new set of pictures, usually I'm taking three pictures 
of the same kind with different exposures, so I need to select the best 
of each kind and somehow cover the others, but I do not want to delete 
them. And of course I'm covering really bad ones too. So what can I do 
to hide the unused pics?


On the other side I would like to put some pictures in a "virtual" 
folder (e.g. "best pictures of 2017"), so I can export them to my 
digital picture frame. I'm just afraid tagging good pictures in one 
color or so is ok, but I will forget to which virtual album they belong.



Do you understand my concern?


Georg

Am 12.04.2017 um 07:45 schrieb Remco Viëtor:

WRT one of your other questions about creating virtual albums:
that is possible (see "Collect images", section 2.3.2), but those collections
are/virtual/, i.e. have no existence outside the Darktable database. What I
do in a similar case: select the images to display, and "export" them in
optimal resolution to a directory outside the Darktable tree (see manual
section 2.3.12), dedicated to your shared data. If you are using darktable, I
expect you work with raw files, so you will have to export your images anyway
after editing to show them.




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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[Dr. Georg Troska]

Thank you very much to all of you for your hints.


I will start to try them out now :-)


Georg


Am 12.04.2017 um 09:49 schrieb Tobias Ellinghaus:

Am Montag, 10. April 2017, 22:38:41 CEST schrieb Dr. Georg Troska:

Hello,

Hi.

[...]


3.
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to recover the modifications I did to the
pictures. Luckily I didn't do much, as iPhotos feasibilty is very limited,
but Especially, I set thousands of geotags in the picutures manually,
which I would like to keep. I think I would be able with some scriping
magic to read in this information from iPhoto. Is there an easy way to tell
darktable "please use these geotags for these pictures"?  E.g. I saw one
can provide a file with the exif_date and the geotag and darktable will set
the geotag to the corresponding picture. So is it possible to do this on a
larger set of picture (lets say 30k??) How should the fileformat look like?

See if you can get the geotags from iPhoto into XMP files for each picture.
darktable should be able to read those.

[...]


Thanks a lot in advance

Georg

Tobias

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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[Tobias Ellinghaus]

Am Montag, 10. April 2017, 22:38:41 CEST schrieb Dr. Georg Troska:
> Hello,

Hi.

[...]

> 3.
> Unfortunately, I wasn't able to recover the modifications I did to the
> pictures. Luckily I didn't do much, as iPhotos feasibilty is very limited,
> but Especially, I set thousands of geotags in the picutures manually,
> which I would like to keep. I think I would be able with some scriping
> magic to read in this information from iPhoto. Is there an easy way to tell
> darktable "please use these geotags for these pictures"?  E.g. I saw one
> can provide a file with the exif_date and the geotag and darktable will set
> the geotag to the corresponding picture. So is it possible to do this on a
> larger set of picture (lets say 30k??) How should the fileformat look like?

See if you can get the geotags from iPhoto into XMP files for each picture. 
darktable should be able to read those.

[...]

> Thanks a lot in advance
> 
> Georg

Tobias

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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable Q2 and Q4

[Remco Viëtor]

On mardi 11 avril 2017 22:22:50 CEST Dr. Georg Troska wrote:
> Thank you very much for your answer.
> 
> I saw that feature to correct one folder in the docs, already. But I'm
> afraid to do this for 500 folders is a bit annoying :-)
> 
This may sound harsh, but if you have to correct 500 folders, it looks like 
you made a serious error in your initial setup.

*If* those albums correspond to physical folders on the hard disk, the best 
thing might be to start from scratch:
- make a backup of your current structure *and* of the current Darktable 
database (in case something goes wrong)
- quit darktable and drop the current database, 
- rename the folder structure to what you want
- re-import everything in Darktable.

All relevant data concerning each image are normally stored within the XMP 
files Darktable writes. That means that edits and geotagging will be recovered 
on the new import (see section 2.2.7 of the manual).
___

WRT one of your other questions about creating virtual albums:
that is possible (see "Collect images", section 2.3.2), but those collections 
are /virtual/, i.e. have no existence outside the Darktable database. What I 
do in a similar case: select the images to display, and "export" them in 
optimal resolution to a directory outside the Darktable tree (see manual 
section 2.3.12), dedicated to your shared data. If you are using darktable, I 
expect you work with raw files, so you will have to export your images anyway 
after editing to show them.

As that directory tree and the images in it are outside Darktable's data, you 
can also reorganise them at a later date with no problems.

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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[August Schwerdfeger]

I was talking about editing the database directly, outside of Darktable,
using SQL commands -- potentially dangerous, but the only viable way I
could find to relocate several hundred film rolls without re-importing
everything in them.

As far as I know, the Darktable database schema is not documented, but you
can use the 'sqlite3' command-line tool to examine your database for
yourself.

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aug...@schwerdfeger.name

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Dr. Georg Troska <
georg.tro...@uni-dortmund.de> wrote:

> Hello, thanks for your answser.
>
> I'm not sure if I understand you correctly.
>
> How do you edit the database? Opening darktable and then correcting the
> folder paths as mentioned in the docs? Or is there a way to start darktable
> using some parameters in order to correct some paths?
>
> If not would it be very hard to program a small tool working on the
> console to move the folder in the filesystem AND correcting the path in the
> database? Is there any doc how the database is organized. I can volunteer
> to do some programing, too
>
>
> Georg
> Am 10.04.2017 um 23:04 schrieb August Schwerdfeger:
>
> When I need to rename/relocate film rolls *en masse*, I usually rename
> each film roll's directory (in Bash or elsewhere) and then edit the
> database directly to apprise Darktable of the new paths (UPDATE film_rolls
> SET folder = "/new/path" WHERE folder == "/old/path"). Of course, it is
> very easy to mess up one's database this way, so some caution is advised.
>
> --
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> aug...@schwerdfeger.name
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Dr. Georg Troska <
> georg.tro...@uni-dortmund.de> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I finally managed to move from iPhoto to darktable by using the software
>> "phoshare" on the mac and a lot of bash-programming on linux. Now I'm
>> starting to use darktable and see how powerful it is. Already now I think,
>> moving was the correct choice.
>>
>> Still a few questions:
>> 1. Is there an easy way to make something like albums? I mean something
>> like a new folder with links to some selected pics, so that I have a
>> subselection? Background of this question is the fact, that I'm using my TV
>> with DLNA support as digital picture-frame. It would be very nice if I
>> could tag some pictures and a new folder per tag appears containing each
>> picture link. I guess darktable does not offer such a solution right?
>> Possible to make some scripts?
>> 2. I understand that darktable is not meant to be a used for filesystem
>> stuff. Anyhow I'm missing a possibility to rename a filmroll. I tried out,
>> renaming a filmroll in the filesystem is possible but then darktable needs
>> to re-import the folder. Is there an other way? Actually, I really have a
>> lot of problems as I didn't do the naming of my filmrolles accurately, In
>> iphoto I had one indicating photo and this was enough. Is there any plan
>> going on to change darktable for a better usability, here. Maybe I'm just
>> misunderstanding the concept. Currently I have more than 30k pics from the
>> last years imported as roughly 1000 filmrolls. So I'm just asking, what
>> do you do to find a picture??
>> 3. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to recover the modifications I did to the
>> pictures. Luckily I didn't do much, as iPhotos feasibilty is very limited,
>> but Especially, I set thousands of geotags in the picutures manually,
>> which I would like to keep. I think I would be able with some scriping
>> magic to read in this information from iPhoto. Is there an easy way to tell
>> darktable "please use these geotags for these pictures"?  E.g. I saw one
>> can provide a file with the exif_date and the geotag and darktable will set
>> the geotag to the corresponding picture. So is it possible to do this on a
>> larger set of picture (lets say 30k??) How should the fileformat look like?
>> 4. I didn't found a possibility in darktable to set a geotag manually.
>> There is only the workaround with the mentioned file. Is there something
>> going on into this direction?
>> 5. I'm missing a possibiliy to move one picture forward and backward in
>> the darkroom. Using the mouse on the lower part is very slow. Is there a
>> keyboard shortcut?
>>
>> Thanks a lot in advance
>>
>> Georg
>> Am 21.12.2016 um 21:38 schrieb Georg Troska:
>>
>> Hello to everybody,
>>
>> thank you very much for the very quick answers.
>>
>>
>> I think the idea with the xmp-files is brilliant. When started googleing
>> I found this:
>>
>> https://gist.github.com/lpar/2191225
>>
>> What do you think about it? Has somebody tried it out? Is is compatible
>> to darktable?
>>
>> I'm a bit afraid to let is run overy my whole library without fully
>> understanding what it does. maybe I create a copy first :-)
>>
>>
>> Georg
>>
>>
>> On 21.12.2016 21:27, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
>>
>> Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2016, 21:17:44 CET schrieb Georg Troska:
>>
>> Hello Hanatos,
>>
>> Not hanatos, but hi nevertheless. :-)
>>
>>
>> I 

Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Dr. Georg Troska  [04-11-17 16:29]:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> thank you very much for your answers. Unfortunately, my questions 1), 5) and
> a part of 2) are still open. Maybe someone else who can give me a hint?
> 
> very quick summary - for details please read below
> 
> 1) Can I create Albums?
> 
> 2) Best way to rename filmrolls?
> 
> 5) Shortcut for navigating though the filmroll in the darkroom?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Georg
> 
> 
> 
> Am 10.04.2017 um 22:38 schrieb Dr. Georg Troska:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I finally managed to move from iPhoto to darktable by using the software
> > "phoshare" on the mac and a lot of bash-programming on linux. Now I'm
> > starting to use darktable and see how powerful it is. Already now I
> > think, moving was the correct choice.
> > 
> > Still a few questions:
> > 1. Is there an easy way to make something like albums? I mean something
> > like a new folder with links to some selected pics, so that I have a
> > subselection? Background of this question is the fact, that I'm using my
> > TV with DLNA support as digital picture-frame. It would be very nice if
> > I could tag some pictures and a new folder per tag appears containing
> > each picture link. I guess darktable does not offer such a solution
> > right? Possible to make some scripts?
> > 2. I understand that darktable is not meant to be a used for filesystem
> > stuff. Anyhow I'm missing a possibility to rename a filmroll. I tried
> > out, renaming a filmroll in the filesystem is possible but then
> > darktable needs to re-import the folder. Is there an other way?
> > Actually, I really have a lot of problems as I didn't do the naming of
> > my filmrolles accurately, In iphoto I had one indicating photo and this
> > was enough. Is there any plan going on to change darktable for a better
> > usability, here. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the concept. Currently
> > I have more than 30k pics from the last years imported as roughly 1000
> > filmrolls. So I'm just asking, what do you do to find a picture??
> > 3. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to recover the modifications I did to
> > the pictures. Luckily I didn't do much, as iPhotos feasibilty is very
> > limited, but Especially, I set thousands of geotags in the picutures
> > manually, which I would like to keep. I think I would be able with some
> > scriping magic to read in this information from iPhoto. Is there an easy
> > way to tell darktable "please use these geotags for these pictures"?
> > E.g. I saw one can provide a file with the exif_date and the geotag and
> > darktable will set the geotag to the corresponding picture. So is it
> > possible to do this on a larger set of picture (lets say 30k??) How
> > should the fileformat look like?
> > 4. I didn't found a possibility in darktable to set a geotag manually.
> > There is only the workaround with the mentioned file. Is there something
> > going on into this direction?
> > 5. I'm missing a possibiliy to move one picture forward and backward in
> > the darkroom. Using the mouse on the lower part is very slow. Is there a
> > keyboard shortcut?
> > 
> > Thanks a lot in advance
> > 
> > Georg
> > Am 21.12.2016 um 21:38 schrieb Georg Troska:
> > 
> > > Hello to everybody,
> > > 
> > > thank you very much for the very quick answers.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think the idea with the xmp-files is brilliant. When started
> > > googleing I found this:
> > > 
> > > https://gist.github.com/lpar/2191225
> > > 
> > > What do you think about it? Has somebody tried it out? Is is
> > > compatible to darktable?
> > > 
> > > I'm a bit afraid to let is run overy my whole library without fully
> > > understanding what it does. maybe I create a copy first :-)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Georg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 21.12.2016 21:27, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> > > > Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2016, 21:17:44 CET schrieb Georg Troska:
> > > > > Hello Hanatos,
> > > > Not hanatos, but hi nevertheless. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > > I already tried my first importing on the dataset of the last year:
> > > > > 
> > > > > in iPhoto my photos are stored on a yearly basis followed by a daily
> > > > > basis (e.g. 2016/31.10.2016/1.NEF).
> > > > > 
> > > > > So when I am importing the folder 2016 recursively I will get as many
> > > > > filmrolls as there are folders in 2016 with the names of the
> > > > > folders. It
> > > > > would be very nice if the dates would be replaced by the names that I
> > > > > used in iPhoto. In iPhoto these names are stored in a sqlite3 
> > > > > database.
> > > > > I think when I would write a small programm I could receive the names
> > > > > per folder from that database. But how do I tell darktable "please
> > > > > import this folder and use this name"or "please import this folder use
> > > > > this name and use this geo-location"
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > > When I'm calling darktable using a folder as parameter you say it will
> > > > > import this folder. What will be the name of 

Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Dr. Georg Troska  [04-11-17 16:23]:
> Hello, thanks for your answser.
> 
> I'm not sure if I understand you correctly.
> 
> How do you edit the database? Opening darktable and then correcting the
> folder paths as mentioned in the docs? Or is there a way to start darktable
> using some parameters in order to correct some paths?
> 
> If not would it be very hard to program a small tool working on the console
> to move the folder in the filesystem AND correcting the path in the
> database? Is there any doc how the database is organized. I can volunteer to
> do some programing, too
> 
> 
> Georg
> 
> Am 10.04.2017 um 23:04 schrieb August Schwerdfeger:
> > When I need to rename/relocate film rolls /en masse/, I usually rename
> > each film roll's directory (in Bash or elsewhere) and then edit the
> > database directly to apprise Darktable of the new paths (UPDATE
> > film_rolls SET folder = "/new/path" WHERE folder == "/old/path"). Of
> > course, it is very easy to mess up one's database this way, so some
> > caution is advised.
> > 
> > --
> > August Schwerdfeger
> > aug...@schwerdfeger.name 
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Dr. Georg Troska
> > >
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I finally managed to move from iPhoto to darktable by using the
> > software "phoshare" on the mac and a lot of bash-programming on
> > linux. Now I'm starting to use darktable and see how powerful it
> > is. Already now I think, moving was the correct choice.
> > 
> > Still a few questions:
> > 1. Is there an easy way to make something like albums? I mean
> > something like a new folder with links to some selected pics, so
> > that I have a subselection? Background of this question is the
> > fact, that I'm using my TV with DLNA support as digital
> > picture-frame. It would be very nice if I could tag some pictures
> > and a new folder per tag appears containing each picture link. I
> > guess darktable does not offer such a solution right? Possible to
> > make some scripts?
> > 2. I understand that darktable is not meant to be a used for
> > filesystem stuff. Anyhow I'm missing a possibility to rename a
> > filmroll. I tried out, renaming a filmroll in the filesystem is
> > possible but then darktable needs to re-import the folder. Is
> > there an other way? Actually, I really have a lot of problems as I
> > didn't do the naming of my filmrolles accurately, In iphoto I had
> > one indicating photo and this was enough. Is there any plan going
> > on to change darktable for a better usability, here. Maybe I'm
> > just misunderstanding the concept. Currently I have more than 30k
> > pics from the last years imported as roughly 1000 filmrolls. So
> > I'm just asking, what do you do to find a picture??
> > 3. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to recover the modifications I did
> > to the pictures. Luckily I didn't do much, as iPhotos feasibilty
> > is very limited, but Especially, I set thousands of geotags in
> > the picutures manually, which I would like to keep. I think I
> > would be able with some scriping magic to read in this information
> > from iPhoto. Is there an easy way to tell darktable "please use
> > these geotags for these pictures"?  E.g. I saw one can provide a
> > file with the exif_date and the geotag and darktable will set the
> > geotag to the corresponding picture. So is it possible to do this
> > on a larger set of picture (lets say 30k??) How should the
> > fileformat look like?
> > 4. I didn't found a possibility in darktable to set a geotag
> > manually. There is only the workaround with the mentioned file. Is
> > there something going on into this direction?
> > 5. I'm missing a possibiliy to move one picture forward and
> > backward in the darkroom. Using the mouse on the lower part is
> > very slow. Is there a keyboard shortcut?
> > 
> > Thanks a lot in advance
> > 
> > Georg
> > Am 21.12.2016 um 21:38 schrieb Georg Troska:
> > 
> > > Hello to everybody,
> > > 
> > > thank you very much for the very quick answers.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I think the idea with the xmp-files is brilliant. When started
> > > googleing I found this:
> > > 
> > > https://gist.github.com/lpar/2191225
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What do you think about it? Has somebody tried it out? Is is
> > > compatible to darktable?
> > > 
> > > I'm a bit afraid to let is run overy my whole library without
> > > fully understanding what it does. maybe I create a copy first :-)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Georg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 21.12.2016 21:27, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
> > > > Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2016, 21:17:44 CET schrieb Georg Troska:
> > > > > 

Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable Q5

[Bernhard]

Dr. Georg Troska schrieb am 11.04.2017 um 22:27:

5) Shortcut for navigating though the filmroll in the darkroom?


Roman Lebedev schrieb am 10.04.2017 um 22:46:

5. I'm missing a possibiliy to move one picture forward and backward in the
darkroom. Using the mouse on the lower part is very slow. Is there a
keyboard shortcut?

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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[Dr. Georg Troska]

Hello everybody,

thank you very much for your answers. Unfortunately, my questions 1), 5) 
and a part of 2) are still open. Maybe someone else who can give me a hint?


very quick summary - for details please read below

1) Can I create Albums?

2) Best way to rename filmrolls?

5) Shortcut for navigating though the filmroll in the darkroom?


Thanks

Georg



Am 10.04.2017 um 22:38 schrieb Dr. Georg Troska:

Hello,

I finally managed to move from iPhoto to darktable by using the 
software "phoshare" on the mac and a lot of bash-programming on linux. 
Now I'm starting to use darktable and see how powerful it is. Already 
now I think, moving was the correct choice.


Still a few questions:
1. Is there an easy way to make something like albums? I mean 
something like a new folder with links to some selected pics, so that 
I have a subselection? Background of this question is the fact, that 
I'm using my TV with DLNA support as digital picture-frame. It would 
be very nice if I could tag some pictures and a new folder per tag 
appears containing each picture link. I guess darktable does not offer 
such a solution right? Possible to make some scripts?
2. I understand that darktable is not meant to be a used for 
filesystem stuff. Anyhow I'm missing a possibility to rename a 
filmroll. I tried out, renaming a filmroll in the filesystem is 
possible but then darktable needs to re-import the folder. Is there an 
other way? Actually, I really have a lot of problems as I didn't do 
the naming of my filmrolles accurately, In iphoto I had one indicating 
photo and this was enough. Is there any plan going on to change 
darktable for a better usability, here. Maybe I'm just 
misunderstanding the concept. Currently I have more than 30k pics from 
the last years imported as roughly 1000 filmrolls. So I'm just asking, 
what do you do to find a picture??
3. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to recover the modifications I did to 
the pictures. Luckily I didn't do much, as iPhotos feasibilty is very 
limited, but Especially, I set thousands of geotags in the 
picutures manually, which I would like to keep. I think I would be 
able with some scriping magic to read in this information from iPhoto. 
Is there an easy way to tell darktable "please use these geotags for 
these pictures"?  E.g. I saw one can provide a file with the exif_date 
and the geotag and darktable will set the geotag to the corresponding 
picture. So is it possible to do this on a larger set of picture (lets 
say 30k??) How should the fileformat look like?
4. I didn't found a possibility in darktable to set a geotag manually. 
There is only the workaround with the mentioned file. Is there 
something going on into this direction?
5. I'm missing a possibiliy to move one picture forward and backward 
in the darkroom. Using the mouse on the lower part is very slow. Is 
there a keyboard shortcut?


Thanks a lot in advance

Georg
Am 21.12.2016 um 21:38 schrieb Georg Troska:


Hello to everybody,

thank you very much for the very quick answers.


I think the idea with the xmp-files is brilliant. When started 
googleing I found this:


https://gist.github.com/lpar/2191225

What do you think about it? Has somebody tried it out? Is is 
compatible to darktable?


I'm a bit afraid to let is run overy my whole library without fully 
understanding what it does. maybe I create a copy first :-)



Georg


On 21.12.2016 21:27, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:

Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2016, 21:17:44 CET schrieb Georg Troska:

Hello Hanatos,

Not hanatos, but hi nevertheless. :-)


I already tried my first importing on the dataset of the last year:

in iPhoto my photos are stored on a yearly basis followed by a daily
basis (e.g. 2016/31.10.2016/1.NEF).

So when I am importing the folder 2016 recursively I will get as many
filmrolls as there are folders in 2016 with the names of the 
folders. It

would be very nice if the dates would be replaced by the names that I
used in iPhoto. In iPhoto these names are stored in a sqlite3 database.
I think when I would write a small programm I could receive the names
per folder from that database. But how do I tell darktable "please
import this folder and use this name"or "please import this folder use
this name and use this geo-location"

[...]


When I'm calling darktable using a folder as parameter you say it will
import this folder. What will be the name of the filmroll? Can I set it
manually?
For all intents and purposes "filmroll" is just a fancy name for 
"folder". More
precisely the last level of the hierarchy. So in order to have the 
filmrolls

named after the descriptions from iPhoto you have to rename the folders
accordingly. If you want to take over metadata like georeferencing I 
would
create an XMP file for the images before importing them with the 
data from your
sqlite db. Tools like "exiv2" and probably also "exiftool" should be 
able to

create such sidecar files for you.


Georg

Tobias

[...]

Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable Q2 and Q4

[Dr. Georg Troska]

Thank you very much for your answer.

I saw that feature to correct one folder in the docs, already. But I'm 
afraid to do this for 500 folders is a bit annoying :-)



The geotag thing with the map is exactly what I was looking for - thanks


Georg


Am 11.04.2017 um 18:44 schrieb Bernhard:




Dr. Georg Troska schrieb am 10.04.2017 um 22:38:
2. I understand that darktable is not meant to be a used for 
filesystem stuff. Anyhow I'm missing a possibility to rename a 
filmroll. I tried out, renaming a filmroll in the filesystem is 
possible but then darktable needs to re-import the folder. Is there 
an other way? Actually, I really have a lot of problems as I didn't 
do the naming of my filmrolles accurately, In iphoto I had one 
indicating photo and this was enough. Is there any plan going on to 
change darktable for a better usability, here. Maybe I'm just 
misunderstanding the concept. Currently I have more than 30k pics 
from the last years imported as roughly 1000 filmrolls. 

From the docs:



  updating folder path

While it is best to not touch imported files behind darktable's back, 
this module can help you recover from situations when you move 
imported folders after import. The collect images module has a 
feature that allows you to tell darktable about the new location of 
imported folders which have been moved. You set the combobox to 
/folders/ to find the original folder name in the tree. The folder 
name will be displayed striked-out to emphasize that it is no longer 
there. Then you right-click on the folder name, select “search 
filmroll...”, and then select the new location of the folder.




Dr. Georg Troska schrieb am 10.04.2017 um 22:38:

4. I didn't found a possibility in darktable to set a geotag manually.

just drag and drop the image to the map
--

regards
Bernhard

http://www.bilddateien.de

 
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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[Dr. Georg Troska]

Hello, thanks for your answser.

I'm not sure if I understand you correctly.

How do you edit the database? Opening darktable and then correcting the 
folder paths as mentioned in the docs? Or is there a way to start 
darktable using some parameters in order to correct some paths?


If not would it be very hard to program a small tool working on the 
console to move the folder in the filesystem AND correcting the path in 
the database? Is there any doc how the database is organized. I can 
volunteer to do some programing, too



Georg

Am 10.04.2017 um 23:04 schrieb August Schwerdfeger:
When I need to rename/relocate film rolls /en masse/, I usually rename 
each film roll's directory (in Bash or elsewhere) and then edit the 
database directly to apprise Darktable of the new paths (UPDATE 
film_rolls SET folder = "/new/path" WHERE folder == "/old/path"). Of 
course, it is very easy to mess up one's database this way, so some 
caution is advised.


--
August Schwerdfeger
aug...@schwerdfeger.name 

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Dr. Georg Troska 
> 
wrote:


Hello,

I finally managed to move from iPhoto to darktable by using the
software "phoshare" on the mac and a lot of bash-programming on
linux. Now I'm starting to use darktable and see how powerful it
is. Already now I think, moving was the correct choice.

Still a few questions:
1. Is there an easy way to make something like albums? I mean
something like a new folder with links to some selected pics, so
that I have a subselection? Background of this question is the
fact, that I'm using my TV with DLNA support as digital
picture-frame. It would be very nice if I could tag some pictures
and a new folder per tag appears containing each picture link. I
guess darktable does not offer such a solution right? Possible to
make some scripts?
2. I understand that darktable is not meant to be a used for
filesystem stuff. Anyhow I'm missing a possibility to rename a
filmroll. I tried out, renaming a filmroll in the filesystem is
possible but then darktable needs to re-import the folder. Is
there an other way? Actually, I really have a lot of problems as I
didn't do the naming of my filmrolles accurately, In iphoto I had
one indicating photo and this was enough. Is there any plan going
on to change darktable for a better usability, here. Maybe I'm
just misunderstanding the concept. Currently I have more than 30k
pics from the last years imported as roughly 1000 filmrolls. So
I'm just asking, what do you do to find a picture??
3. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to recover the modifications I did
to the pictures. Luckily I didn't do much, as iPhotos feasibilty
is very limited, but Especially, I set thousands of geotags in
the picutures manually, which I would like to keep. I think I
would be able with some scriping magic to read in this information
from iPhoto. Is there an easy way to tell darktable "please use
these geotags for these pictures"?  E.g. I saw one can provide a
file with the exif_date and the geotag and darktable will set the
geotag to the corresponding picture. So is it possible to do this
on a larger set of picture (lets say 30k??) How should the
fileformat look like?
4. I didn't found a possibility in darktable to set a geotag
manually. There is only the workaround with the mentioned file. Is
there something going on into this direction?
5. I'm missing a possibiliy to move one picture forward and
backward in the darkroom. Using the mouse on the lower part is
very slow. Is there a keyboard shortcut?

Thanks a lot in advance

Georg
Am 21.12.2016 um 21:38 schrieb Georg Troska:


Hello to everybody,

thank you very much for the very quick answers.


I think the idea with the xmp-files is brilliant. When started
googleing I found this:

https://gist.github.com/lpar/2191225


What do you think about it? Has somebody tried it out? Is is
compatible to darktable?

I'm a bit afraid to let is run overy my whole library without
fully understanding what it does. maybe I create a copy first :-)


Georg


On 21.12.2016 21:27, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:

Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2016, 21:17:44 CET schrieb Georg Troska:

Hello Hanatos,

Not hanatos, but hi nevertheless. :-)


I already tried my first importing on the dataset of the last year:

in iPhoto my photos are stored on a yearly basis followed by a
daily
basis (e.g. 2016/31.10.2016/1.NEF).

So when I am importing the folder 2016 recursively I will get
as many
filmrolls as there are folders in 2016 with the names of the
folders. It
would be very nice if the dates would be replaced by the names

Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[Dr. Georg Troska]

Hi thanks for your answer, please see below
[...]

pictures. Luckily I didn't do much, as iPhotos feasibilty is very limited,
but Especially, I set thousands of geotags in the picutures manually,
which I would like to keep. I think I would be able with some scriping magic
to read in this information from iPhoto. Is there an easy way to tell
darktable "please use these geotags for these pictures"?  E.g. I saw one can
provide a file with the exif_date and the geotag and darktable will set the
geotag to the corresponding picture. So is it possible to do this on a
larger set of picture (lets say 30k??) How should the fileformat look like?

I would try to save them to GPX, and then just apply it using
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch02s03s09.html.php


Ok. but does this work on thousands of pictures from different filmrolls 
too?





4. I didn't found a possibility in darktable to set a geotag manually. There
is only the workaround with the mentioned file. Is there something going on
into this direction?

https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch05.html.php


Great this was exactly what I was looking for

[...]

Georg

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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable Q2 and Q4

[Bernhard]

Dr. Georg Troska schrieb am 10.04.2017 um 22:38:
2. I understand that darktable is not meant to be a used for 
filesystem stuff. Anyhow I'm missing a possibility to rename a 
filmroll. I tried out, renaming a filmroll in the filesystem is 
possible but then darktable needs to re-import the folder. Is there an 
other way? Actually, I really have a lot of problems as I didn't do 
the naming of my filmrolles accurately, In iphoto I had one indicating 
photo and this was enough. Is there any plan going on to change 
darktable for a better usability, here. Maybe I'm just 
misunderstanding the concept. Currently I have more than 30k pics from 
the last years imported as roughly 1000 filmrolls. 

From the docs:



  updating folder path

While it is best to not touch imported files behind darktable's back, 
this module can help you recover from situations when you move 
imported folders after import. The collect images module has a feature 
that allows you to tell darktable about the new location of imported 
folders which have been moved. You set the combobox to /folders/ to 
find the original folder name in the tree. The folder name will be 
displayed striked-out to emphasize that it is no longer there. Then 
you right-click on the folder name, select “search filmroll...”, and 
then select the new location of the folder.




Dr. Georg Troska schrieb am 10.04.2017 um 22:38:

4. I didn't found a possibility in darktable to set a geotag manually.

just drag and drop the image to the map

--

regards
Bernhard

http://www.bilddateien.de



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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[August Schwerdfeger]

When I need to rename/relocate film rolls *en masse*, I usually rename each
film roll's directory (in Bash or elsewhere) and then edit the database
directly to apprise Darktable of the new paths (UPDATE film_rolls SET
folder = "/new/path" WHERE folder == "/old/path"). Of course, it is very
easy to mess up one's database this way, so some caution is advised.

--
August Schwerdfeger
aug...@schwerdfeger.name

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Dr. Georg Troska <
georg.tro...@uni-dortmund.de> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I finally managed to move from iPhoto to darktable by using the software
> "phoshare" on the mac and a lot of bash-programming on linux. Now I'm
> starting to use darktable and see how powerful it is. Already now I think,
> moving was the correct choice.
>
> Still a few questions:
> 1. Is there an easy way to make something like albums? I mean something
> like a new folder with links to some selected pics, so that I have a
> subselection? Background of this question is the fact, that I'm using my TV
> with DLNA support as digital picture-frame. It would be very nice if I
> could tag some pictures and a new folder per tag appears containing each
> picture link. I guess darktable does not offer such a solution right?
> Possible to make some scripts?
> 2. I understand that darktable is not meant to be a used for filesystem
> stuff. Anyhow I'm missing a possibility to rename a filmroll. I tried out,
> renaming a filmroll in the filesystem is possible but then darktable needs
> to re-import the folder. Is there an other way? Actually, I really have a
> lot of problems as I didn't do the naming of my filmrolles accurately, In
> iphoto I had one indicating photo and this was enough. Is there any plan
> going on to change darktable for a better usability, here. Maybe I'm just
> misunderstanding the concept. Currently I have more than 30k pics from the
> last years imported as roughly 1000 filmrolls. So I'm just asking, what
> do you do to find a picture??
> 3. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to recover the modifications I did to the
> pictures. Luckily I didn't do much, as iPhotos feasibilty is very limited,
> but Especially, I set thousands of geotags in the picutures manually,
> which I would like to keep. I think I would be able with some scriping
> magic to read in this information from iPhoto. Is there an easy way to tell
> darktable "please use these geotags for these pictures"?  E.g. I saw one
> can provide a file with the exif_date and the geotag and darktable will set
> the geotag to the corresponding picture. So is it possible to do this on a
> larger set of picture (lets say 30k??) How should the fileformat look like?
> 4. I didn't found a possibility in darktable to set a geotag manually.
> There is only the workaround with the mentioned file. Is there something
> going on into this direction?
> 5. I'm missing a possibiliy to move one picture forward and backward in
> the darkroom. Using the mouse on the lower part is very slow. Is there a
> keyboard shortcut?
>
> Thanks a lot in advance
>
> Georg
> Am 21.12.2016 um 21:38 schrieb Georg Troska:
>
> Hello to everybody,
>
> thank you very much for the very quick answers.
>
>
> I think the idea with the xmp-files is brilliant. When started googleing I
> found this:
>
> https://gist.github.com/lpar/2191225
>
> What do you think about it? Has somebody tried it out? Is is compatible to
> darktable?
>
> I'm a bit afraid to let is run overy my whole library without fully
> understanding what it does. maybe I create a copy first :-)
>
>
> Georg
>
>
> On 21.12.2016 21:27, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
>
> Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2016, 21:17:44 CET schrieb Georg Troska:
>
> Hello Hanatos,
>
> Not hanatos, but hi nevertheless. :-)
>
>
> I already tried my first importing on the dataset of the last year:
>
>
> in iPhoto my photos are stored on a yearly basis followed by a daily
>
> basis (e.g. 2016/31.10.2016/1.NEF).
>
>
> So when I am importing the folder 2016 recursively I will get as many
>
> filmrolls as there are folders in 2016 with the names of the folders. It
>
> would be very nice if the dates would be replaced by the names that I
>
> used in iPhoto. In iPhoto these names are stored in a sqlite3 database.
>
> I think when I would write a small programm I could receive the names
>
> per folder from that database. But how do I tell darktable "please
>
> import this folder and use this name"or "please import this folder use
>
> this name and use this geo-location"
>
> [...]
>
>
> When I'm calling darktable using a folder as parameter you say it will
>
> import this folder. What will be the name of the filmroll? Can I set it
>
> manually?
>
> For all intents and purposes "filmroll" is just a fancy name for "folder".
> More
>
> precisely the last level of the hierarchy. So in order to have the
> filmrolls
>
> named after the descriptions from iPhoto you have to rename the folders
>
> accordingly. If you want to take over metadata like georeferencing I 

Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[Roman Lebedev]

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Dr. Georg Troska
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I finally managed to move from iPhoto to darktable by using the software
> "phoshare" on the mac and a lot of bash-programming on linux. Now I'm
> starting to use darktable and see how powerful it is. Already now I think,
> moving was the correct choice.
>
> Still a few questions:
...

> 3. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to recover the modifications I did to the
> pictures. Luckily I didn't do much, as iPhotos feasibilty is very limited,
> but Especially, I set thousands of geotags in the picutures manually,
> which I would like to keep. I think I would be able with some scriping magic
> to read in this information from iPhoto. Is there an easy way to tell
> darktable "please use these geotags for these pictures"?  E.g. I saw one can
> provide a file with the exif_date and the geotag and darktable will set the
> geotag to the corresponding picture. So is it possible to do this on a
> larger set of picture (lets say 30k??) How should the fileformat look like?
I would try to save them to GPX, and then just apply it using
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch02s03s09.html.php

> 4. I didn't found a possibility in darktable to set a geotag manually. There
> is only the workaround with the mentioned file. Is there something going on
> into this direction?
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/ch05.html.php

> 5. I'm missing a possibiliy to move one picture forward and backward in the
> darkroom. Using the mouse on the lower part is very slow. Is there a
> keyboard shortcut?
space/backspace

> Thanks a lot in advance
>
> Georg
Roman.

> Am 21.12.2016 um 21:38 schrieb Georg Troska:
>
> Hello to everybody,
>
> thank you very much for the very quick answers.
>
>
> I think the idea with the xmp-files is brilliant. When started googleing I
> found this:
>
> https://gist.github.com/lpar/2191225
>
> What do you think about it? Has somebody tried it out? Is is compatible to
> darktable?
>
> I'm a bit afraid to let is run overy my whole library without fully
> understanding what it does. maybe I create a copy first :-)
>
>
> Georg
>
>
> On 21.12.2016 21:27, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
>
> Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2016, 21:17:44 CET schrieb Georg Troska:
>
> Hello Hanatos,
>
> Not hanatos, but hi nevertheless. :-)
>
>
> I already tried my first importing on the dataset of the last year:
>
>
> in iPhoto my photos are stored on a yearly basis followed by a daily
>
> basis (e.g. 2016/31.10.2016/1.NEF).
>
>
> So when I am importing the folder 2016 recursively I will get as many
>
> filmrolls as there are folders in 2016 with the names of the folders. It
>
> would be very nice if the dates would be replaced by the names that I
>
> used in iPhoto. In iPhoto these names are stored in a sqlite3 database.
>
> I think when I would write a small programm I could receive the names
>
> per folder from that database. But how do I tell darktable "please
>
> import this folder and use this name"or "please import this folder use
>
> this name and use this geo-location"
>
> [...]
>
>
> When I'm calling darktable using a folder as parameter you say it will
>
> import this folder. What will be the name of the filmroll? Can I set it
>
> manually?
>
> For all intents and purposes "filmroll" is just a fancy name for "folder".
> More
>
> precisely the last level of the hierarchy. So in order to have the filmrolls
>
> named after the descriptions from iPhoto you have to rename the folders
>
> accordingly. If you want to take over metadata like georeferencing I would
>
> create an XMP file for the images before importing them with the data from
> your
>
> sqlite db. Tools like "exiv2" and probably also "exiftool" should be able to
>
> create such sidecar files for you.
>
>
> Georg
>
> Tobias
>
>
> [...]
>
>
> 
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>
>
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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[Dr. Georg Troska]

Hello,

I finally managed to move from iPhoto to darktable by using the software 
"phoshare" on the mac and a lot of bash-programming on linux. Now I'm starting 
to use darktable and see how powerful it is. Already now I think, moving was 
the correct choice.

Still a few questions:
1. Is there an easy way to make something like albums? I mean something like a 
new folder with links to some selected pics, so that I have a subselection? 
Background of this question is the fact, that I'm using my TV with DLNA support 
as digital picture-frame. It would be very nice if I could tag some pictures 
and a new folder per tag appears containing each picture link. I guess 
darktable does not offer such a solution right? Possible to make some scripts? 
2. I understand that darktable is not meant to be a used for filesystem stuff. 
Anyhow I'm missing a possibility to rename a filmroll. I tried out, renaming a 
filmroll in the filesystem is possible but then darktable needs to re-import 
the folder. Is there an other way? Actually, I really have a lot of problems as 
I didn't do the naming of my filmrolles accurately, In iphoto I had one 
indicating photo and this was enough. Is there any plan going on to change 
darktable for a better usability, here. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the 
concept. Currently I have more than 30k pics from the last years imported as 
roughly 1000 filmrolls. So I'm just asking, what do you do to find a picture??
3. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to recover the modifications I did to the 
pictures. Luckily I didn't do much, as iPhotos feasibilty is very limited, 
but Especially, I set thousands of geotags in the picutures manually, which 
I would like to keep. I think I would be able with some scriping magic to read 
in this information from iPhoto. Is there an easy way to tell darktable "please 
use these geotags for these pictures"?  E.g. I saw one can provide a file with 
the exif_date and the geotag and darktable will set the geotag to the 
corresponding picture. So is it possible to do this on a larger set of picture 
(lets say 30k??) How should the fileformat look like?
4. I didn't found a possibility in darktable to set a geotag manually. There is 
only the workaround with the mentioned file. Is there something going on into 
this direction?
5. I'm missing a possibiliy to move one picture forward and backward in the 
darkroom. Using the mouse on the lower part is very slow. Is there a keyboard 
shortcut?

Thanks a lot in advance

Georg
Am 21.12.2016 um 21:38 schrieb Georg Troska:

> Hello to everybody,
> 
> thank you very much for the very quick answers.
> 
> 
> I think the idea with the xmp-files is brilliant. When started googleing I 
> found this:
> 
> https://gist.github.com/lpar/2191225
> 
> What do you think about it? Has somebody tried it out? Is is compatible to 
> darktable?
> 
> I'm a bit afraid to let is run overy my whole library without fully 
> understanding what it does. maybe I create a copy first :-)
> 
> 
> Georg
> 
> 
> On 21.12.2016 21:27, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2016, 21:17:44 CET schrieb Georg Troska:
>>> Hello Hanatos,
>> Not hanatos, but hi nevertheless. :-)
>> 
>>> I already tried my first importing on the dataset of the last year:
>>> 
>>> in iPhoto my photos are stored on a yearly basis followed by a daily
>>> basis (e.g. 2016/31.10.2016/1.NEF).
>>> 
>>> So when I am importing the folder 2016 recursively I will get as many
>>> filmrolls as there are folders in 2016 with the names of the folders. It
>>> would be very nice if the dates would be replaced by the names that I
>>> used in iPhoto. In iPhoto these names are stored in a sqlite3 database.
>>> I think when I would write a small programm I could receive the names
>>> per folder from that database. But how do I tell darktable "please
>>> import this folder and use this name"or "please import this folder use
>>> this name and use this geo-location"
>> [...]
>> 
>>> When I'm calling darktable using a folder as parameter you say it will
>>> import this folder. What will be the name of the filmroll? Can I set it
>>> manually?
>> For all intents and purposes "filmroll" is just a fancy name for "folder". 
>> More
>> precisely the last level of the hierarchy. So in order to have the filmrolls
>> named after the descriptions from iPhoto you have to rename the folders
>> accordingly. If you want to take over metadata like georeferencing I would
>> create an XMP file for the images before importing them with the data from 
>> your
>> sqlite db. Tools like "exiv2" and probably also "exiftool" should be able to
>> create such sidecar files for you.
>> 
>>> Georg
>> Tobias
>> 
>> [...]
> 
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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[Georg Troska]

Hello to everybody,

thank you very much for the very quick answers.


I think the idea with the xmp-files is brilliant. When started googleing 
I found this:


https://gist.github.com/lpar/2191225

What do you think about it? Has somebody tried it out? Is is compatible 
to darktable?


I'm a bit afraid to let is run overy my whole library without fully 
understanding what it does. maybe I create a copy first :-)



Georg


On 21.12.2016 21:27, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote:

Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2016, 21:17:44 CET schrieb Georg Troska:

Hello Hanatos,

Not hanatos, but hi nevertheless. :-)


I already tried my first importing on the dataset of the last year:

in iPhoto my photos are stored on a yearly basis followed by a daily
basis (e.g. 2016/31.10.2016/1.NEF).

So when I am importing the folder 2016 recursively I will get as many
filmrolls as there are folders in 2016 with the names of the folders. It
would be very nice if the dates would be replaced by the names that I
used in iPhoto. In iPhoto these names are stored in a sqlite3 database.
I think when I would write a small programm I could receive the names
per folder from that database. But how do I tell darktable "please
import this folder and use this name"or "please import this folder use
this name and use this geo-location"

[...]


When I'm calling darktable using a folder as parameter you say it will
import this folder. What will be the name of the filmroll? Can I set it
manually?

For all intents and purposes "filmroll" is just a fancy name for "folder". More
precisely the last level of the hierarchy. So in order to have the filmrolls
named after the descriptions from iPhoto you have to rename the folders
accordingly. If you want to take over metadata like georeferencing I would
create an XMP file for the images before importing them with the data from your
sqlite db. Tools like "exiv2" and probably also "exiftool" should be able to
create such sidecar files for you.


Georg

Tobias

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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[Tobias Ellinghaus]

Am Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2016, 21:17:44 CET schrieb Georg Troska:
> Hello Hanatos,

Not hanatos, but hi nevertheless. :-)

> I already tried my first importing on the dataset of the last year:
> 
> in iPhoto my photos are stored on a yearly basis followed by a daily
> basis (e.g. 2016/31.10.2016/1.NEF).
> 
> So when I am importing the folder 2016 recursively I will get as many
> filmrolls as there are folders in 2016 with the names of the folders. It
> would be very nice if the dates would be replaced by the names that I
> used in iPhoto. In iPhoto these names are stored in a sqlite3 database.
> I think when I would write a small programm I could receive the names
> per folder from that database. But how do I tell darktable "please
> import this folder and use this name"or "please import this folder use
> this name and use this geo-location"

[...]

> When I'm calling darktable using a folder as parameter you say it will
> import this folder. What will be the name of the filmroll? Can I set it
> manually?

For all intents and purposes "filmroll" is just a fancy name for "folder". More 
precisely the last level of the hierarchy. So in order to have the filmrolls 
named after the descriptions from iPhoto you have to rename the folders 
accordingly. If you want to take over metadata like georeferencing I would 
create an XMP file for the images before importing them with the data from your 
sqlite db. Tools like "exiv2" and probably also "exiftool" should be able to 
create such sidecar files for you.

> Georg

Tobias

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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[August Schwerdfeger]

As I understand it, film rolls in Darktable correspond directly to
filesystem directories, so if you want new names for the film rolls you
will need to rename the directories.

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On 12/21/2016 02:17 PM, Georg Troska wrote:
> Hello Hanatos,
>
> I already tried my first importing on the dataset of the last year:
>
> in iPhoto my photos are stored on a yearly basis followed by a daily
> basis (e.g. 2016/31.10.2016/1.NEF).
>
> So when I am importing the folder 2016 recursively I will get as many
> filmrolls as there are folders in 2016 with the names of the folders.
> It would be very nice if the dates would be replaced by the names that
> I used in iPhoto. In iPhoto these names are stored in a sqlite3
> database. I think when I would write a small programm I could receive
> the names per folder from that database. But how do I tell darktable
> "please import this folder and use this name"or "please import this
> folder use this name and use this geo-location"
>
> Most of picuters are RAW (I'm using an old Nikon D50). Additionally
> there are many photos I did before I figured what RAW is :-) and a
> photos from the iPhone (all JPG)
>
> importing 2000 pics worked in less than 3 minutes. I think performance
> is not a problem here.
>
> When I'm calling darktable using a folder as parameter you say it will
> import this folder. What will be the name of the filmroll? Can I set
> it manually?
>
> Georg
>
>
> On 21.12.2016 20:50, johannes hanika wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Georg Troska
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> I've been using Apples iPhoto since its beginning. I think now its
>>> the time
>>> to move to a better system like darktable.
>>>
>>> As I'm really familiar with iPhoto now, so maybe I just do not
>>> understand
>>> the mechanism how photos are arranged in darktable:
>>>
>>> I tried to import the "Originals" folder from my iPhoto-Library, but
>>> I do
>>> not get a clou how I can use the filmroll concept in a usefull way
>>>
>>> I think the filmrolls do have the meaning of events in iPhoto.. right?
>> hm. i have no idea about iphoto, so can't tell.
>>
>>> So what can I do to import my library to darktable? Is there a way
>>> to create
>>> filmrolls from the cli? I think I could manage to acquire the
>>> information
>>> from the sqlite3.db of iPhoto when using ruby. How can I apply
>>> further data
>>> (e.g. the modified fotos) to darktable.
>> you can import recursively (there's a checkbox for that if you're
>> importing with the dt gui).
>>
>> may i ask what kind of pictures that is? all jpg? different raws?
>> recursive import can be very slow on big collections and be very
>> frustrating if there is one corrupted picture that crashes the whole
>> process.
>>
>>> What I'm searching for is a shell-command like:
>>>
>>> darktable-import --filmroll  --modified  --geotag 
>>> >> files>
>> no clue what your options there suggest in terms of functionality. you
>> can call darktable with a folder as argument, it will be imported.
>>
>> cheers,
>>   jo
>> 
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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[Georg Troska]

Hello Hanatos,

I already tried my first importing on the dataset of the last year:

in iPhoto my photos are stored on a yearly basis followed by a daily 
basis (e.g. 2016/31.10.2016/1.NEF).


So when I am importing the folder 2016 recursively I will get as many 
filmrolls as there are folders in 2016 with the names of the folders. It 
would be very nice if the dates would be replaced by the names that I 
used in iPhoto. In iPhoto these names are stored in a sqlite3 database. 
I think when I would write a small programm I could receive the names 
per folder from that database. But how do I tell darktable "please 
import this folder and use this name"or "please import this folder use 
this name and use this geo-location"


Most of picuters are RAW (I'm using an old Nikon D50). Additionally 
there are many photos I did before I figured what RAW is :-) and a 
photos from the iPhone (all JPG)


importing 2000 pics worked in less than 3 minutes. I think performance 
is not a problem here.


When I'm calling darktable using a folder as parameter you say it will 
import this folder. What will be the name of the filmroll? Can I set it 
manually?


Georg


On 21.12.2016 20:50, johannes hanika wrote:

hi,

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Georg Troska
 wrote:

Hi everybody,

I've been using Apples iPhoto since its beginning. I think now its the time
to move to a better system like darktable.

As I'm really familiar with iPhoto now, so maybe I just do not understand
the mechanism how photos are arranged in darktable:

I tried to import the "Originals" folder from my iPhoto-Library, but I do
not get a clou how I can use the filmroll concept in a usefull way

I think the filmrolls do have the meaning of events in iPhoto.. right?

hm. i have no idea about iphoto, so can't tell.


So what can I do to import my library to darktable? Is there a way to create
filmrolls from the cli? I think I could manage to acquire the information
from the sqlite3.db of iPhoto when using ruby. How can I apply further data
(e.g. the modified fotos) to darktable.

you can import recursively (there's a checkbox for that if you're
importing with the dt gui).

may i ask what kind of pictures that is? all jpg? different raws?
recursive import can be very slow on big collections and be very
frustrating if there is one corrupted picture that crashes the whole
process.


What I'm searching for is a shell-command like:

darktable-import --filmroll  --modified  --geotag  

no clue what your options there suggest in terms of functionality. you
can call darktable with a folder as argument, it will be imported.

cheers,
  jo

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Re: [darktable-user] want to move from iPhoto to darktable

[johannes hanika]

hi,

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Georg Troska
 wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I've been using Apples iPhoto since its beginning. I think now its the time
> to move to a better system like darktable.
>
> As I'm really familiar with iPhoto now, so maybe I just do not understand
> the mechanism how photos are arranged in darktable:
>
> I tried to import the "Originals" folder from my iPhoto-Library, but I do
> not get a clou how I can use the filmroll concept in a usefull way
>
> I think the filmrolls do have the meaning of events in iPhoto.. right?

hm. i have no idea about iphoto, so can't tell.

> So what can I do to import my library to darktable? Is there a way to create
> filmrolls from the cli? I think I could manage to acquire the information
> from the sqlite3.db of iPhoto when using ruby. How can I apply further data
> (e.g. the modified fotos) to darktable.

you can import recursively (there's a checkbox for that if you're
importing with the dt gui).

may i ask what kind of pictures that is? all jpg? different raws?
recursive import can be very slow on big collections and be very
frustrating if there is one corrupted picture that crashes the whole
process.

> What I'm searching for is a shell-command like:
>
> darktable-import --filmroll  --modified  --geotag   files>

no clue what your options there suggest in terms of functionality. you
can call darktable with a folder as argument, it will be imported.

cheers,
 jo

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