Re: L'oeuf et la poule, version Build-Depends
Jeremie Koenig wrote: Évidemment, pour compiler la libc, j'ai besoin du cross-compilo. Donc je Build-Depends: c-compiler-i386-msdosdjgpp. Seulement, pour compiler gcc, j'ai besoin des headers de la libc, donc je Build-Depends: djgpp. Et hop, une build-dépendence circulaire. Ca me tracasse quand même. Est-ce un problème ? Les build-dépendences circulaires existent: - libxerces2-java: ant, libxalan2-java - libxalan2-java: ant, libxerces2-java - ant: libxalan2-java, libxerces2-java La circularité n'est pas un problème. Y rentrer peut-être mais pas y être. Il faut rentrer dans le cycle. Une fois dedans, se débarasser de ce qui a permis d'y entrer.
Re: ITO packages: ntop, apt-show-source
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:20:53PM +0200, Dennis Schoen wrote: Hi, On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 05:03:47PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 01:42:32PM +0200, Dennis Schoen wrote: Package: ntop Description: display network usage in top-like format ntop is a Network Top program. It displays a summary of network usage by machines on your network in a format reminiscent of the unix top utility. . It can also be run in web mode, which allows the display to be browsed with a web browser. I'd like to take this one. I have been using it for a long time and is quite experienced with the code. Ok, it's yours. I hoped you would step forward as you have already done some work on it. :) Ok, thanks. Please try to upload a package in the next days. I'll do that, hopefully today. Regards, // Ola Ciao Dennis -- Wanting to kill yourself after loosing a game of Go is extreme, sure, but not unheard-of. Hell, it's practically a sign of progress. -- - Ola Lundqvist --- / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Annebergsslingan 37 \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 654 65 KARLSTAD | | +46 (0)54-10 14 30 +46 (0)70-332 1551 | | http://www.opal.dhs.org UIN/icq: 4912500 | \ gpg/f.p.: 7090 A92B 18FE 7994 0C36 4FE4 18A1 B1CF 0FE5 3DD9 / ---
Re: Debian conference in the US?
On Sun, 2003-05-18 at 22:07, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: [I've already asked a few relevant individuals about this, but am opening it up to the list at their suggestion.] I've recently been in touch with somebody (a lawyer and professor concerned with government open source policy) who is interested in sponsoring a Debian conference here in Washington, DC, next spring, in conjunction with an international conference on open source in government. Sounds like a good idea to me! If we have a sponsor, it makes sense to use the opportunity.
Re: Firebird 0.6
Eric Dorland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So unless you have a better reason then PCness, I'll use either as the mood strikes me :) To be accurate, I don't think this is an example of PCness, but rather of PR-speak, the same sort of thing that goes into press releases (though I mean `public relations' when I say PR). It's amazing how even quite clueful people can end up producing a meaningless mush of empty-but-safe-and-vaguely-positive-sounding adjectives when they write a press release. I must admit I got a bit worried when I saw the mozilla screed on `promoting brand awareness'... -Miles -- `Cars give people wonderful freedom and increase their opportunities. But they also destroy the environment, to an extent so drastic that they kill all social life' (from _A Pattern Language_)
Re: Debian conference in the US?
Simon Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please don't hold the conference in the U.S. I am a Canadian who has not stepped foot on American soil since your government declared it was at war. You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel about the U.S. governments acts or positions? -Miles -- A zen-buddhist walked into a pizza shop and said, Make me one with everything.
second for John's amendment
Hello, I think that John's modification is a good thing. Hereby I second the amendment quoted below. Jochen On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 12:19:33PM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: --- proposal-srivasta Fri May 16 09:42:59 2003 +++ proposal-jaqque Mon May 19 11:43:13 2003 @@ -1,139 +1,139 @@ PROPOSAL __ Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying: __ Under 4.2 Procedure [for developers during a general resolution or election], change item 3 to read: 3. Votes are taken by the Project Secretary. Votes, tallies, and results are not revealed during the voting period; after the vote the Project Secretary lists all the votes cast. The voting period is 2 weeks, but may be varied by up to 1 week by the Project Leader. __ Under 5.2 Appointment of project leader, change item 7 to read: 7. The decision will be made using the method specified in section A.6 of the Standard Resolution Procedure. The quorum is the same as for a General Resolution (s.4.2) and the default option is None Of The Above. __ Under 6.1 Powers [of the technical committee], change item 7 to read: 7. Appoint the Chairman of the Technical Committee. The Chairman is elected by the Committee from its members. All members of the committee are automatically nominated; the committee votes starting one week before the post will become vacant (or immediately, if it is already too late). The members may vote by public acclamation for any fellow committee member, including themselves; there is no default option. The vote finishes when all the members have voted, or when the voting period has ended. The result is determined using the method specified in section A.6 of the Standard Resolution Procedure. __ Under A.2 Calling for a vote, change items 2 and 4 to read 2. The proposer or any sponsor of a resolution may call for a vote on that resolution and all related amendments. 4. The minimum discussion period is counted from the time the last formal amendment was accepted, or since the whole resolution was proposed if no amendments have been proposed and accepted. __ Replace A.3 with: A.3. Voting procedure 1. Each resolution and its related amendments is voted on in a single ballot that includes an option for the original resolution, each amendment, and the default option (where applicable). 2. The default option must not have any supermajority requirements. Options which do not have an explicit supermajority requirement have a 1:1 majority requirement. 3. The votes are counted according to the the rules in A.6. The default option is Further Discussion, unless specified otherwise. 4. In cases of doubt the Project Secretary shall decide on matters of procedure. __ Replace A.5 with: A.5. Expiry If a proposed resolution has not been discussed, amended, voted on or otherwise dealt with for 4 weeks the secretary may issue a statement that the issue is being withdrawn. If none of the sponsors of any of the proposals object within a week, the issue is withdrawn. The secretary may also include suggestions on how to proceed, if appropriate. __ Replace A.6 with: A.6 Vote Counting 1. Each voter's ballot ranks the options being voted on. Not all options need be ranked. Ranked options are considered preferred to all unranked options. Voters may rank options equally. Unranked options are considered to be ranked equally with one another. Details of how ballots may be filled out will be included in the Call For Votes. - 2. If the ballot has a quorum requirement R any options other -than the default option which do not receive at least R votes -ranking that option above the default option are dropped from + 2. If the ballot has a quorum requirement R, and less then R votes are +cast, the entire vote is thrown out. The amendment may be withdrawn, +or a discussion period may be resumed at the sponsor's discretion. + 3. Any option
Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge
Le dim 18/05/2003 à 16:52, Martin Schulze a écrit : I also wonder if there are efforts in progress to unify the kernel source through more than two architectures? This would require a group or architecture maintainers (current kernel package mantainers) to work collaboratively towards this goal. Maybe the modules situation is even worse, as rebuilding the kernel may or may not break some of them. Is it possible to reliably guarantee the binary-compatibility of a newer (patched) kernel-image with modules built against the previous one ? Using explicit dependencies for the compiler, for example. Otherwise, maybe it would be better to include *all* extra modules we want to build in the kernel build process, and just provide them in separate packages, as we already do for pcmcia-modules. This would make these modules more difficult to maintain in sid, but it would vastly improve the maintainability of the kernel itself. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette/\./\ : :' : [EMAIL PROTECTED] `. `'[EMAIL PROTECTED] `- Debian GNU/Linux -- The power of freedom signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian conference in the US?
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 04:06:17PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: Simon Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please don't hold the conference in the U.S. I am a Canadian who has not stepped foot on American soil since your government declared it was at war. You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel about the U.S. governments acts or positions? I think he meant the war against terrorists, which could potentially include anyone as ennemy. Friendly, Sven Luther
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Re: [OT] Storms (Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue))
On Wed, 14 May 2003 09:28:53 +0200 Martin Godisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 09:02:20 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: Tormenta en un vaso de agua in Spanish. So it seems that french and spanish drink more water than tea. Sturm im Wasserglas in German. ;-) Storm in een glas water in Dutch. Tim
Re: Debian conference in the US?
Hi Greg, Now that you've got this release out, have you given any thought to the message I sent earlier about merging gdb server versions? Here it is again in case you've forgotten: Hi, The current version of gdbserver in uClinux-dist only works on the m68k. In my v850-specific version of uClinux-dist, I include a version of gdbserver that works on the v850, which I created based on gdb-5.3. I think it should generally be much more portable than the old version, as it's far less hacked up (the only changes I made to put it into the uClinux-dist/user tree are to move the files around to fit the old scheme better; I have a shell script that does that automatically). I haven't yet sent my patches to gdb-central because I'm waiting to get a copyright disclaimer, but perhaps you might want to include this newer version in uClinux-dist? I suppose it will work on other platforms too; the issues that I know about are: (1) In linux-low.c, I do this to get the various address offsets (similar to the code in the old m68k gdbserver, which uses hard-wired constants): text = ptrace (PTRACE_PEEKUSER, pid, (long)PT_TEXT_ADDR, 0); text_len = ptrace (PTRACE_PEEKUSER, pid, (long)PT_TEXT_LEN, 0); real_data = ptrace (PTRACE_PEEKUSER, pid, (long)PT_DATA_ADDR, 0); I defined PT_TEXT_ADDR, PT_TEXT_LEN, and PT_DATA_ADDR in include/asm-v850/ptrace.h in the kernel: /* These are `magic' values for PTRACE_PEEKUSR that return info about where a process is located in memory. */ #define PT_TEXT_ADDR(PT_SIZE + 1) #define PT_TEXT_LEN (PT_SIZE + 2) #define PT_DATA_ADDR(PT_SIZE + 3) Could you add similar to defines to the other uClinux ports, so that the linux-low.c code will work on them too? BTW, notice that I used `PT_TEXT_LEN' instead of `PT_TEXT_END_ADDR' (which is what the m68k uses), as addr-len pairs generally seem cleaner to me than addr-endaddr pairs (makes the code slightly simpler too). (2) Since stuff in uClinux-dist comes `pre-configured' (i.e. doesn't get to run the configure script), and I of course configured it for the v850, the gdbserver Makefile needs to somehow select the proper machine-dependent files to use. Currently the only machine-dependent bits seem to be these: DEPFILES = reg-v850e.o linux-low.o linux-v850e-low.o Perhaps it would be good enough to change this to something like: DEPFILES = reg-$(CPU).o linux-low.o linux-$(CPU)-low.o But I'm not sure where I can get CPU from; is there something handy in the uClinux-dist Makefiles that could be used? The set of CPU values used in (my version of) gdbserver are: v850e, s390, arm, x86-64, i386, mips, ppc, sh, ia64, m68k So it seems that the most `obvious' value should work OK Hmmm, perhaps I ought to change `v850e' to be `v850' for compatibility with the kernel, etc... sigh. What are your thoughts? Thanks, -Miles -- `To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems' --Homer J. Simpson
Bug#194280: ITP: dcraw -- This is a small utility which converts proprietary image formats used in various digital cameras into ppm
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-05-22 Severity: wishlist * Package name: dcraw Version : 1.110 Upstream Author : Dave Coffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.shore.net/~dcoffin/powershot * License : Unknown free (see below) Description : This is a small utility which converts proprietary image formats used in various digital cameras into ppm Alternative URL: http://www2.primushost.com/~dcoffin/powershot/ Copyright message: From dcraw.c Raw Photo Decoder (formerly Canon PowerShot Converter) Copyright 1997-2003 by Dave Coffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... This code is freely licensed for all uses, commercial and otherwise. From other components, messages similar to this: * Copyright (C) 1991, 1992, Thomas G. Lane. * Part of the Independent JPEG Group's software. * See the file Copyright for more details. [Copyright file MIA] * Copyright (c) 1993 Brian C. Smith, The Regents of the University * of California * All rights reserved. * * Copyright (c) 1994 Kongji Huang and Brian C. Smith. * Cornell University * All rights reserved. * * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its * documentation for any purpose, without fee, and without written agreement is * hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice and the following * two paragraphs appear in all copies of this software. * This is a cool utility that turns incomprehensible, proprietary RAW files from digital cameras into nice ppm files. For my own camera, the cpu time and quality is comparable to the utility provided by the manufacturer (canon). In case it shows, too much, This is my first interaction with the debian project except as a happy user. -- Steve King -- System Information Debian Release: 3.0 Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux eagle 2.4.18-xfs-evms #1 Fri Jan 10 16:29:33 GMT 2003 i686 Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C
Bug#194286: ITP: labrea -- a sticky honeypot and IDS
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-22 Severity: wishlist * Package name: labrea Version : 2.5.beta1 Upstream Author : Tom Liston [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://labrea.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description : a sticky honeypot and IDS LaBrea takes over unused IP addresses, and creates virtual servers that are attractive to worms, hackers, and other denizens of the Internet. The program answers connection attempts in such a way that the machine at the other end gets stuck, sometimes for a very long time. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux cthugha 2.4.21-rc2 #12 Sun May 18 19:59:00 CEST 2003 i686 Locale: LANG=C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- When all the network has eyes, even if we were to send out minds turned into light or electrons... It is a time when one is not able to make a solid, a complex, into data yet...
Error in upgrading libgd-perl?
Hi all, While trying to upgrade libgd-perl I get the following error: vivacia:/home/maulkin# apt-get install libgd-perl Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgd-perl: Depends: libgd-gd1-perl (= 1.41-6) but 1.41-5 is to be installed E: Broken packages vivacia:/home/maulkin# apt-get install libgd-gd1-perl Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done libgd-gd1-perl is already the newest version. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. This has been like this for a week or so. Anyone have any more info? Cheers, Neil -- 16 Channels in mode 4 I disclaim everything I can under English law. gpg key - http://www.halon.org.uk/pubkey.txt ; the.earth.li 8DEC67C5
tagcolledit: first infancy of a GUI editor for package tags
Hello. I've started working at a GUI editor for package tags. It's called tagcolledit and you can find it in my apt repository: deb http://people.debian.org/~enrico/ unstable/$(ARCH)/ deb http://people.debian.org/~enrico/ unstable/all/ deb-src http://people.debian.org/~enrico/ unstable/source/ So far it has no editing functions, but it can be used to navigate the tag database in an original, non-hierarchical way. It can already be useful as a way to have alternative views of the tag database, that could help in having ideas for better tag informations, and then go and input them at http://debian.vitavonni.de/packagebrowser/ . I welcome feedback and suggestions, both for navigating the database and for editing functions. Only one problem is already known: it's quite slow when listing large groups of items. Ciao, Enrico -- GPG key: 1024D/797EBFAB 2000-12-05 Enrico Zini [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpl4lOubtw49.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian conference in the US?
On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote: You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel about the U.S. governments acts or positions? When tourism goes down the hotel, entertainment, and airline industries suffer. If enough people boycott the US because of this then it'll keep the American economy down. If the US economy stays down long enough then the current government won't last. Rhetoric about imaginary enemies in Iraq doesn't satisfy people who lose their jobs because of the economy sucking. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page
Re: Debian conference in the US?
* Simon Law ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Please don't hold the conference in the U.S. I am a Canadian who has not stepped foot on American soil since your government declared it was at war. If we have a sponsor and there are enough interested parties to warrent it I think we should do it. I certainly think there's enough interest and it sounds like we have a sponsor. Those who have concerns or political issues need not attend but that should not stop the conference from happening if there are enough people who are interested. Stephen pgpXTYNQtYtpC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian conference in the US?
Hi, On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:39:02PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote: You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel about the U.S. governments acts or positions? When tourism goes down the hotel, entertainment, and airline industries suffer. If enough people boycott the US because of this then it'll keep the American economy down. If the US economy stays down long enough then the current government won't last. Rhetoric about imaginary enemies in Iraq doesn't satisfy people who lose their jobs because of the economy sucking. Hm, as could be seen in Iraq, boycotts only strenghen the position of the rogue leaders (See? They are all against us! We need to protect ourselves! You need a strong man to protect you! Etc.) Cheers, Emile. -- E-Advies - Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. +31 (0)70 3906153 http://www.e-advies.nl
Re: Firebird 0.6
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Eric Dorland wrote: Could you be more specific? If there's a permission problem I'd like to fix it :) I've used the root account to install some mozilla - modules into /usr/lib/mozilla-firebird/chrome. After i changed into my normal user account I couldn't start mozilla, I could call 'mozilla' from shell, but it would return me back into the shell without any information. I've tried to strace mozilla and found out that I was lacking read access to a module file and that crashed mozilla. Dunno which specific module that was (the problem was resolved to quick to remeber), but you could just try the standard get extensions plugins.. Andreas
lintian: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath, --disable-rpath doesn't help
Hello all! I am getting a lintian error, binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath although i run configure with --disable-rpath option. It is no automake problem... i've remake all automake stuff to check this. ./configure --disable-rpath works in so far that it sets or unsets $KDE_RPATH but -rpath appears nevertheless in the Makefile: $(CXXLINK) -rpath $(kde_moduledir) $(libkimagemapeditor_la_LDFLAGS) $(libkimagemapeditor_la_OBJECTS) $(libkimagemapeditor_la_LIBADD) $(LIBS) Is it a libtool problem?! What can i do? At http://cojobo.bonn.de/~muszynski/debian/ you can find sources, diff etc. Many thanks, Sebastian
Re: Error in upgrading libgd-perl?
This is a consequence of its broken build-depends (Bug #193602). -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT a valid e-mail address) for more info.
Re: ITP: codestriker -- A web based collaborative code review tool
I know have a working package (lintian clean). Can be found here : deb http://nthomas.free.fr/debian sid main deb-src http://nthomas.free.fr/debian sid main Hope this helps, Nicolas ps: still looking for a sponsor..
Orphaning my packages
Hello! [Please CC me!] I have some packages left I'd like to orphan: fltk, fltk1.1: The Fast Light Toolkit (www.fltk.org). A C++ GUI toolkit. spiralsynthmodular (http://www.pawfal.org/Software/SSM/) : a modular software synth. Needs fltk. aseqview: displays ALSA synthesizer events. I'd be glad if someone could orphan the packages that nobody wants to take right now, because I don't have access to a debian system to do it myself. Thanks, Stefan
Re: HylaFax
I have heard that Hylafax has a Windows client available. (I am not sure if this just gives the ability to send faxes or if it also lets you view received faxes though). Yes, there's WHFC ( http://www.uli-eckhardt.de/whfc/download.shtml ) a client program for windows to send faxes through a hylafax server. My clients use it normally. It includes a small addressbook, it asks for the fax number, a cover, and you can check and use the queue. Diego
Re: Debian conference in the US?
Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : Hi, On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:39:02PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote: You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel about the U.S. governments acts or positions? When tourism goes down the hotel, entertainment, and airline industries suffer. If enough people boycott the US because of this then it'll keep the American economy down. If the US economy stays down long enough then the current government won't last. Rhetoric about imaginary enemies in Iraq doesn't satisfy people who lose their jobs because of the economy sucking. Hm, as could be seen in Iraq, boycotts only strenghen the position of the rogue leaders (See? They are all against us! We need to protect ourselves! You need a strong man to protect you! Etc.) Both points of view make sense. Fact is selecting a location for an event which is outside USA seems a good compromise for everybody. People that do not want to go to USA are not forced to, others that do not think USA should be avoided would surely agree to go elsewhere too. -- Mathieu Roy Homepage: http://yeupou.coleumes.org Not a native english speaker: http://stock.coleumes.org/doc.php?i=/misc-files/flawed-english
Re: Orphaning my packages
Stefan Schwandter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd be glad if someone could orphan the packages that nobody wants to take right now, because I don't have access to a debian system to do it myself. I'd be willing to adopt fltk1.1, and will also upload a new build of spiralsynthmodular shortly unless somebody takes it before then. -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT a valid e-mail address) for more info.
Re: Debian conference in the US?
* Mathieu Roy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Both points of view make sense. Fact is selecting a location for an event which is outside USA seems a good compromise for everybody. People that do not want to go to USA are not forced to, others that do not think USA should be avoided would surely agree to go elsewhere too. As one of the 200+ developers in the USA I don't feel it should be avoided and I feel quite out in the cold most of the time when these conferences come around because I don't have the funds to go elsewhere. I don't see any problem with having conferences in the USA, or other places for that matter, provided there are enough people who will go to warrent it and there is someone willing to sponsor it. Lots of people might not be willing to go to the USA for political reasons, probably more would find it cost prohibitive. The same is true for conferences outside the USA, I'm sure quite a few developers find that cost prohibitive too, and I imagine there are USA developers who dislike the actions of other countries and would avoid conferences there too. This doesn't mean we shouldn't have any conferences. Stephen pgpDXiyWkGeQo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian conference in the US?
On Fri, 23 May 2003 01:06, Mathieu Roy wrote: If the US economy stays down long enough then the current government won't last. Rhetoric about imaginary enemies in Iraq doesn't satisfy people who lose their jobs because of the economy sucking. Hm, as could be seen in Iraq, boycotts only strenghen the position of the rogue leaders (See? They are all against us! We need to protect ourselves! You need a strong man to protect you! Etc.) Both points of view make sense. Fact is selecting a location for an event which is outside USA seems a good compromise for everybody. People that do not want to go to USA are not forced to, others that do not think USA should be avoided would surely agree to go elsewhere too. I have no objections to a conference in the US. If there are enough people interested in attending to make it a good conference then it should be run. The US has a large population, they should be able to justify a conference without any visitors from other countries. I can't rule out the possibility of attending myself. I was merely pointing out one of the reasons why many people are avoiding the US. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page
Re: Orphaning my packages
This one time, at band camp, Stefan Schwandter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fltk, fltk1.1: The Fast Light Toolkit (www.fltk.org). A C++ GUI toolkit. I'd be interested in taking these over if no one else wants to, because one if my ITPs (Quat) depends on these. Morgon -- You said homosexuals form a small percentage of the population. So do Jews. Is that a reason to deny someone equality? - Richard Marceau
Re: Debian conference in the US?
On Thu, 22 May 2003 22:39:02 +1000, Russell Coker [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote: You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel about the U.S. governments acts or positions? When tourism goes down the hotel, entertainment, and airline industries suffer. If enough people boycott the US because of this then it'll keep the American economy down. I see. You all are personally taking action to make it harder for my friends and relatives to find a job, or get decent health care (my ex-boss has been looking for employment for 27 months now, and my step daughter does not have a job with benefits), and you expect me to have sympathy for your views? You are taking personal actions inimical to the standard of living of me and my loved ones in retaliation for actions by my government (which I have little control over), and you expect me to roll over and congratulate you all on your stance? Hell, my first instinct is to try and see how I can retaliate. Let me clue all of you in: anyone who takes a stand and tries to hurt the US economy, I see as a taking action inimical to me, and my loved ones, and I do *NOT* see that as friendly action. manoj -- A countryman between two lawyers is like a fish between two cats. Ben Franklin Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C
Re: Debian conference in the US?
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 12:17:32PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: As one of the 200+ developers in the USA I don't feel it should be avoided and I feel quite out in the cold most of the time when these conferences come around because I don't have the funds to go elsewhere. I don't see any problem with having conferences in the USA, or other places for that matter, provided there are enough people who will go to warrent it and there is someone willing to sponsor it. Lots of people might not be willing to go to the USA for political reasons, probably more would find it cost prohibitive. The same is true for conferences outside the USA, I'm sure quite a few developers find that cost prohibitive too, and I imagine there are USA developers who dislike the actions of other countries and would avoid conferences there too. This doesn't mean we shouldn't have any conferences. exactly. Michael
Re: Debian conference in the US?
Stephen Frost wrote: I don't see any problem with having conferences in the USA, or other places for that matter, provided there are enough people who will go to warrent it and there is someone willing to sponsor it. Lots of people might not be willing to go to the USA for political reasons, probably more would find it cost prohibitive. The same is true for conferences outside the USA, I'm sure quite a few developers find that cost prohibitive too, and I imagine there are USA developers who dislike the actions of other countries and would avoid conferences there too. It's really not any more expensive to travel to Toronto or Vancouver than it is to travel a similar distance inside the US[1]. Once you get there you'll find that the conference is cheaper since the Canadian dollar is (still) weaker than the US dollar. And I know of approixmatly zero Americans who have reason to boycott Canada. Sorry, argument does not fly. Anyway, I'd love to see a conference in DC, since I have family there, and it's only 5 hours away by car. I'm looking forward to Oslo more though, if I can find cheap plane tickets! -- see shy jo [1] If you're low on cash and it's on the right side of the continent, you go by car. Or greyhound! pgpWCSZ4tvI9z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian conference in the US?
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 05:06:24PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: Emile van Bergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] a tapoté : On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:39:02PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote: You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel about the U.S. governments acts or positions? When tourism goes down the hotel, entertainment, and airline industries suffer. If enough people boycott the US because of this then it'll keep the American economy down. If the US economy stays down long enough then the current government won't last. Rhetoric about imaginary enemies in Iraq doesn't satisfy people who lose their jobs because of the economy sucking. Hm, as could be seen in Iraq, boycotts only strenghen the position of the rogue leaders (See? They are all against us! We need to protect ourselves! You need a strong man to protect you! Etc.) Both points of view make sense. Fact is selecting a location for an event which is outside USA seems a good compromise for everybody. The sponsors aren't *offering* to sponsor a conference outside the US. Most of the arguments against holding a conference in the US are therefore irrelevant. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgpkWQY1fcQmw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian conference in the US?
Miles Bader dijo [Thu, May 22, 2003 at 04:06:17PM +0900]: Simon Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please don't hold the conference in the U.S. I am a Canadian who has not stepped foot on American soil since your government declared it was at war. You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel about the U.S. governments acts or positions? It may be too little if only one person does it... But I know *MANY* people who simply will avoid (to de extent possible in Mexico, at least) buying any American goods. In my particular cas -and I think many other developers will agree- this did not suddenly start with the Iraqi war - The USA have long been a country with little or none respect for privacy and freedom, standing in the way of technological advance. How will it help anything? First of all, if they notice that they are ceasing to be the focus of technological development, they might understand that they are doing something wrong. And even if they don't, at least I feel better ;-) -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)5630-9700 ext. 1366 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF
Re: Accepted ptkei 1.18.0-4 (all source)
On Wed, 21 May 2003 12:24:42 -0700, Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: reopen 192068 thanks John O'Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:40:18 +0100 Source: ptkei Binary: ptkei Architecture: source all Version: 1.18.0-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John O'Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John O'Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: ptkei - Python TK Empire Interface Changes: ptkei (1.18.0-4) unstable; urgency=low . * Fixed Bug#192068 ...another fine example of changelog abuse. How is that changelog abuse? Methinks this is a case of hair trigger reopen closed bugs stupidly. Note that the changelog did not actually close the bug. manoj -- Smoking is, as far as I'm concerned, the entire point of being an adult. Fran Lebowitz Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C
Re: Debian conference in the US?
* Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It's really not any more expensive to travel to Toronto or Vancouver than it is to travel a similar distance inside the US[1]. Once you get there you'll find that the conference is cheaper since the Canadian dollar is (still) weaker than the US dollar. And I know of approixmatly zero Americans who have reason to boycott Canada. Sorry, argument does not fly. It's alot cheaper if the conference is in DC for me since there'd be basically no additional cost involved. A conference in Toronto or Vancouver would be more expensive due to travel time, hotel cost, etc. Though I might be as willing to go to Toronto as NYC if there was a conference there. It seems the conferences are often in Europe though which is definitely more expensive than pretty much anywhere on the east coast for me. Stephen pgpalPImAnWu0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: * Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616) Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. Do it using BTS directly. -- Francesco P. Lovergine
Re: Debian conference in the US?
As other people have said: I'm not going, but I don't object to a conference in the US per se. Same here. Even if I had the money to attend, I wouldn't like to travel to the US because of the new copyright and anti-terrorist laws. Still, I think it's a good idea to arrange a conference for the American developers. - Jarno
Re: Accepted ptkei 1.18.0-4 (all source)
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 21 May 2003 12:24:42 -0700, Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: reopen 192068 thanks John O'Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:40:18 +0100 Source: ptkei Binary: ptkei Architecture: source all Version: 1.18.0-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: John O'Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: John O'Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: ptkei - Python TK Empire Interface Changes: ptkei (1.18.0-4) unstable; urgency=low . * Fixed Bug#192068 ...another fine example of changelog abuse. How is that changelog abuse? Uhh, there's no description of the bug. If you're not going to describe any of the fixes in the changelog, why even use a changelog at all? Methinks this is a case of hair trigger reopen closed bugs stupidly. Note that the changelog did not actually close the bug. Right, I did not realize that. Nonetheless, it is still a very poor changelog entry. -- Poems... always a sign of pretentious inner turmoil. pgpLdyLnUbg96.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
This one time, at band camp, Francesco Paolo Lovergine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: * Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616) Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. Do it using BTS directly. Debian Developers' Reference actually recommends doing that on the first line of the new changelog entry. Morgon -- You said homosexuals form a small percentage of the population. So do Jews. Is that a reason to deny someone equality? - Richard Marceau
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:49:52PM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: * Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616) Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. Do it using BTS directly. Come on. This is getting a bit over the top, IMHO. After all, he *did* merge those changes from the NMU into his local tree. Or even if he just pulled the lastest debian source, it would still be a change. I think it's entirely reasonable to do this. What is the current consensus on this? Michael
Re: Orphaning my packages
Morgon Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This one time, at band camp, Stefan Schwandter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fltk, fltk1.1: The Fast Light Toolkit (www.fltk.org). A C++ GUI toolkit. I'd be interested in taking these over if no one else wants to, because one if my ITPs (Quat) depends on these. No offense, but are you actually a DD? I can't seem to find you in the database, or even the new-maintainer queue. -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT a valid e-mail address) for more info.
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
* Francesco Paolo Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: * Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616) Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. Do it using BTS directly. He's officially closeing NMU's because he's uploading an actual maintainer upload. I think that's very appropriate for the changelog. Stephen pgpzacJVxdall.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
El día 22 may 2003, Francesco Paolo Lovergine escribía: On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: * Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616) Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. Do it using BTS directly. This use of changelog is fine, IMO. You make a mantainer upload using the modifications made in NMUs, which has yet the Closes line. But they only tag the bugs as fixed. I even think this is written somewore -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpuwWysSbZ0Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
* Francesco Paolo Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030522 21:35]: On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: * Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616) Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. Do it using BTS directly. The developers references tells that both methods are allowed in 5.11.4 http://www.debian.de/doc/developers-reference/ch-pkgs.en.html#s-ack-nmu I for myself prefer the changelog entry because it shows direct which bugs are closed by the maintainer. Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:49:52PM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: * Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616) Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. Do it using BTS directly. Uh, nope. See the developers' reference, chapter 5.11.5. The idea is: if you're not uploading a new version, the NMU is still not 'worked away'. By closing fixed bugs directly, one could forget to incorporate the changes of the NMU... -- Wouter Verhelst Debian GNU/Linux -- http://www.debian.org Nederlandstalige Linux-documentatie -- http://nl.linux.org An expert can usually spot the difference between a fake charge and a full one, but there are plenty of dead experts. -- National Geographic Channel, in a documentary about large African beasts. pgpRVUUnKi7rk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Orphaning my packages
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron M. Ucko) wrote: fltk, fltk1.1: The Fast Light Toolkit (www.fltk.org). A C++ GUI toolkit. I'd be interested in taking these over if no one else wants to, because one if my ITPs (Quat) depends on these. No offense, but are you actually a DD? I can't seem to find you in the database, or even the new-maintainer queue. None taken. And no, I am not. Morgon -- You said homosexuals form a small percentage of the population. So do Jews. Is that a reason to deny someone equality? - Richard Marceau
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 03:33:29PM -0400, Morgon Kanter wrote: * Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616) Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. Do it using BTS directly. Debian Developers' Reference actually recommends doing that on the first line of the new changelog entry. No, it does not _recommend_ that, don't misrepresent it! -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
This one time, at band camp, Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616) Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. Do it using BTS directly. Debian Developers' Reference actually recommends doing that on the first line of the new changelog entry. No, it does not _recommend_ that, don't misrepresent it! [...] It is an old tradition to acknowledge bugs fixed in non-maintainer uploads in the first changelog entry of the proper maintainer upload, for instance, in a changelog entry like this: old tradition usually seems to mean good idea to me. Morgon -- You said homosexuals form a small percentage of the population. So do Jews. Is that a reason to deny someone equality? - Richard Marceau
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:10:28PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Francesco Paolo Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030522 21:35]: Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. Do it using BTS directly. The developers references tells that both methods are allowed in 5.11.4 http://www.debian.de/doc/developers-reference/ch-pkgs.en.html#s-ack-nmu I for myself prefer the changelog entry because it shows direct which bugs are closed by the maintainer. There's another interesting approach: use 'dpkg-buildpackage -vlast version you uploaded'. That way you don't even need to include another changelog entry, but the generated .changes will include a Closes: line for all the NMU-fixed bugs. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 05:27:40PM -0400, Morgon Kanter wrote: * Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616) Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. Do it using BTS directly. Debian Developers' Reference actually recommends doing that on the first line of the new changelog entry. No, it does not _recommend_ that, don't misrepresent it! [...] It is an old tradition to acknowledge bugs fixed in non-maintainer uploads in the first changelog entry of the proper maintainer upload, for instance, in a changelog entry like this: old tradition usually seems to mean good idea to me. For some people, rebooting machines at first sight of trouble is an old tradition, too... :) -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness.
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
Guido Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: directory-administrator (1.3.5-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New Upstream Version (closes: #176227, #188308, #90276) Changelog abuse. This is only a valid entry if all 3 of these bugs were requests for a new version, which they were not. The features included in that version (and listed in upstream changelog) solve the problems reported in the other two report... Then please use a changelog entry for each change, such as * New Upstream Version (closes: #176227) - Fixes error after updating user entry (closes: #188308) - Fixes segfaults on connect (closes: #90276) If you don't do this, the original bug submitters will see a bug has been fixed, but probably not remember what the bug was, especially if he or she filed multiple bugs for the package. Furthermore, it's a real pain to have to look at the BTS, and then search through the upstream changelog to find the corresponding fix. This should be described in the developer's reference (as if anyone actually follows it). -- Poems... always a sign of pretentious inner turmoil. pgpmug8d5aEfe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:55:36PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: It's much more helpful to write this as: yes of course, but the question is where the line between helpfulness and usefulness is :) At least I think it is not a good idea to talk about abuse if maintainers save themself some work. This might have the opposite effet than desired. Well in that case, let's just use changelog entries like * Closes: #1234, #2345, #3456, #4567 That will save developers some work, right? Or, even better, let's just drop usage of that work and time-consuming BTS altogether. To save developers even more work, let's allow them to never test, or even build, a package before upload. And, let's not fix security holes either, because that takes too much effort. Shall I go on? -- Poems... always a sign of pretentious inner turmoil. pgpbLeTlp2cL2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: lintian: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath, --disable-rpath doesn't help
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 03:58:35PM +0200, Sebastian Muszynski wrote: Hello all! I am getting a lintian error, binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath although i run configure with --disable-rpath option. It is no automake problem... i've remake all automake stuff to check this. ./configure --disable-rpath works in so far that it sets or unsets $KDE_RPATH but -rpath appears nevertheless in the Makefile: $(CXXLINK) -rpath $(kde_moduledir) $(libkimagemapeditor_la_LDFLAGS) $(libkimagemapeditor_la_OBJECTS) $(libkimagemapeditor_la_LIBADD) $(LIBS) Is it a libtool problem?! What can i do? At http://cojobo.bonn.de/~muszynski/debian/ you can find sources, diff etc. Hello, I have the same problem with a ocaml compiled binary and i use chrpath to remove the rpath ( seems to work great ). regard Sylvain LE GALL
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
This one time, at band camp, Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it does not _recommend_ that, don't misrepresent it! [...] It is an old tradition to acknowledge bugs fixed in non-maintainer uploads in the first changelog entry of the proper maintainer upload, for instance, in a changelog entry like this: old tradition usually seems to mean good idea to me. For some people, rebooting machines at first sight of trouble is an old tradition, too... :) Point taken! Morgon -- You said homosexuals form a small percentage of the population. So do Jews. Is that a reason to deny someone equality? - Richard Marceau
Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying
Hello Raul, On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 04:57:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: Hard to understand? We'd require a certain level of voter approval before we'll consider an option -- options which don't achieve that can't win. How is this hard to understand? The thing which is hard to understand, is the following. Dropping the option which nobody likes can change the winner among the interesting options. This is explained in detail at http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~wwwstoch/voss/comp/quorum.html There you will find an example, where voting in favor of an option B will make this option loose, because of the quorum interferes. I hope this helps, Jochen -- Omm (0)-(0) http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~wwwstoch/voss/index.html pgpjjuEZF02fg.pgp Description: PGP signature
voting system overview
Hello, For those of you, who want to make a well-informed decision in the upcoming general resolution about our voting system, the following web page should be interesting. http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~wwwstoch/voss/comp/vote.html There I put together pointers to all relevant information which I did find. Comments and suggestions for improvement are always welcome. I hope this helps, Jochen -- Omm (0)-(0) http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~wwwstoch/voss/index.html pgprz5XlkCQKM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 03:33:05PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: Shall I go on? No. Michael -- -!- bunny is now known as trinityBunny trinityBunny =) * trinityBunny doubles flips in the room, slow motion rotates around jbailey waves h at him in fast motion and stands still.
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
Em Thu, 22 May 2003 01:26:27 +0200, Bernd Eckenfels [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:55:36PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: It's much more helpful to write this as: yes of course, but the question is where the line between helpfulness and usefulness is :) At least I think it is not a good idea to talk about abuse if maintainers save themself some work. This might have the opposite effet than desired. That's *very* useful, too. And that would save people a lot of work when tracking problem causes, etc. It will not kill adding a few more details when closing a bug, and that makes the changelog much more useful. This is the way I do: * New upstream release - it seems like the lng CC is not a problem anymore (Closes: #182003) - IMAP has gone through a lot of work, so I believe this should be fixed. Also, this version is supposed to fix the 'io blocking' thingy. (Closes: #164101) Damn, it evens helps the submitter to understand what problem has been fixed when he receives the notification. []s! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gustavo Noronha http://people.debian.org/~kov Debian: http://www.debian.org * http://www.debian-br.org Dúvidas sobre o Debian? Visite o Rau-Tu: http://rautu.cipsga.org.br
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:10:28PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: * Francesco Paolo Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030522 21:35]: Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs. Do it using BTS directly. The developers references tells that both methods are allowed in 5.11.4 http://www.debian.de/doc/developers-reference/ch-pkgs.en.html#s-ack-nmu I for myself prefer the changelog entry because it shows direct which bugs are closed by the maintainer. There's another interesting approach: use 'dpkg-buildpackage -vlast version you uploaded'. That way you don't even need to include another changelog entry, but the generated .changes will include a Closes: line for all the NMU-fixed bugs. This is the best method, I think. IIRC, bug submitters don't receive an acknowledgment for bugs fixed in an NMU; they only receive them when closed by the maintainer. Consequently, they only get an acknowledgment that says something like * Acknowledge NMU (closes: xxx) which is not informative at all. I would much rather see the changelog entry made by the NMU-er. -- Poems... always a sign of pretentious inner turmoil. pgp6yX3vYc00j.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 04:57:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: Hard to understand? We'd require a certain level of voter approval before we'll consider an option -- options which don't achieve that can't win. How is this hard to understand? On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:50:02AM +0200, Jochen Voss wrote: The thing which is hard to understand, is the following. Dropping the option which nobody likes can change the winner among the interesting options. This is explained in detail at http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~wwwstoch/voss/comp/quorum.html There you will find an example, where voting in favor of an option B will make this option loose, because of the quorum interferes. I'm going to focus only on your claim that this page shows an example of the violation of monotonicity by Manoj's proposal. Monotonicity (http://electionmethods.org/evaluation.html#MC) requires With the relative order or rating of the other candidates unchanged, voting a candidate higher should never cause the candidate to lose, nor should voting a candidate lower ever cause the candidate to win. But, on your page, I don't see any examples of voting a candidate higher with the relative order or rating of other candidates unchanged. Instead, I see one example of an introduced vote where B, C and A are all changed with respect to the default option. -- Raul
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Brian Nelson wrote: If you don't do this, the original bug submitters will see a bug has been fixed, but probably not remember what the bug was, especially if he or she filed multiple bugs for the package. Furthermore, it's a real pain to have to look at the BTS, and then search through the upstream changelog to find the corresponding fix. That's the wrong reason. Consider the admin, who discovers some bug. They look at the changelogs for the problem package, seeing if it had a similiar bug. Also, consider that this system is not online, and the admin has no network connection.
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:11:23PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: Consider the admin, who discovers some bug. They look at the changelogs for the problem package, seeing if it had a similiar bug. Also, consider that this system is not online, and the admin has no network connection. Well, an admin who is not online but do has changelogs which are more recent that his installed packages is for sure quite seldom. I wonder is that is a very common reason at all. For those admins i would suggest to mirror mozilla bugtracker in addition to mozilla archive. :) Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (OO) When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl!
Re: Orphaning my packages
Morgon Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: None taken. And no, I am not. [a DD] OK, then, I'm going ahead and taking fltk1.1. -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT a valid e-mail address) for more info.
Re: Debian conference in the US?
On Thu, 22 May 2003 12:20:39 -0500 Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me clue all of you in: anyone who takes a stand and tries to hurt the US economy, I see as a taking action inimical to me, and my loved ones, and I do *NOT* see that as friendly action. What you say is just bad, bad, bad, and you should be ashamed. In the least it implies you personally are only friendly with people when you are taking their money. In other words, you dont have any true friends. On the Australia-US trade deal thats being worked on. If it worked out to be better for Australia than for the US, would you bear a grudge against all individual Australians ? If it was more benificial to the US would you be friendlier to Australians ? If your countrymen share that sort of attitute it explains why the USA is in so many wars. There is a layer of abstraction been government and people, any action by or against your government is not necesarily an action from or against individual US'ians. I hope you can see the obvious flaws in your comments, and can learn from your mistakes. Glenn
Re: Debian conference in the US?
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And I know of approixmatly zero Americans who have reason to boycott Canada. Er, well. I doubt there's a government in existance that hasn't done something objectionable enough to piss off a foreigner somewhere (e.g., recent european attempts to export their censorship laws on the net). I seem to recall Canada doing some very moronic things with respect to free speech in the '80s that engendered a fair amount of anger among people I knew (Americans), though I can't recall why it was of cross-border significance [The U.S. has been unusually moronic lately though (the basic `anti-people' stance of Bush's minions is pretty scary).] -Miles -- Come now, if we were really planning to harm you, would we be waiting here, beside the path, in the very darkest part of the forest?
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:11:23PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: Consider the admin, who discovers some bug. They look at the changelogs for the problem package, seeing if it had a similiar bug. Also, consider that this system is not online, and the admin has no network connection. Well, an admin who is not online but do has changelogs which are more recent that his installed packages is for sure quite seldom. I wonder is that is a very common reason at all. You misunderstand. Admin installs from cd. Admin runs programs. Admin finds something he thinks is a bug. Admin reads changelog to see if the bug existed previously.
Re: Debian conference in the US?
On Fri, 23 May 2003 03:20, Manoj Srivastava wrote: You are taking personal actions inimical to the standard of living of me and my loved ones in retaliation for actions by my government (which I have little control over), and you expect me to roll over and congratulate you all on your stance? Hell, my first instinct is to try and see how I can retaliate. Great! Now we are making some progress. The US (both government and people) does this sort of thing routinely to other countries. Most Americans can't understand why it will make people outside the US unhappy. Let me clue all of you in: anyone who takes a stand and tries to hurt the US economy, I see as a taking action inimical to me, and my loved ones, and I do *NOT* see that as friendly action. It seems that a large portion of the US population is trying to hurt the economy of any country that doesn't follow the US line (see France as an example). What do you think of the boycots of French products? Do you oppose them on principle? PS How exactly would you retaliate against the rest of the world? PPS Be grateful that you have more control over your government than I have over mine. My government obeys yours. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page
Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 09:51:33PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: Admin installs from cd. Admin runs programs. Admin finds something he thinks is a bug. Admin reads changelog to see if the bug existed previously. hmm.. why would he do that? Greetings Bernd -- (OO) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ( .. ) [EMAIL PROTECTED],linux.de,debian.org} http://home.pages.de/~eckes/ o--o *plush* 2048/93600EFD [EMAIL PROTECTED] +497257930613 BE5-RIPE (OO) When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl!
Re: Debconf 3
Pero si nos ponemos las pilas, se puede organizar en España. Al fin y al cabo, sólo es que alguien se mueva un poco para buscar un sitio y empezar a conseguir patrocinadores. Pues a mí se me ocurre hacer la en el sur, rollo Mérida, en plan colegio mayor y muy muy secta :-) No jodas. ¿En verano? A la playita de Cadiz, niña. En Extremadura paramos a comer, en todo caso. ;-) Estimados, hagámonos un favor: Las veces que he estado en España en verano, hace un calor insoportable. Si hace un calor insoportable, es imposible pensar. Si es imposible pensar, lo único que lograríamos en un DebCong (en español es congreso, no conference) es juntarnos a emborracharnos. Y... No, no, no, no digo que juntarnos a emborracharnos esté mal, pero es que es mejor si también podemos trabajar :) Además, falta todo un año para el próximo verano. ¿Primavera? ¿Fines de invierno? :) Saludos, -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)5630-9700 ext. 1366 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF pgppDJmKIGFUS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debconf 3
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 10:20:47PM +0200, Amaya wrote: No tiene por qué llamarse Debconf ;-) Le podemos llamar la European Debian Celebration si queremos ;-) O DefCon en memoria de esa gran pelicula que nos intrudujo los terminos anglosajones para denominar guerra nuclear inminente =) (Estoy de coqa, porque al principio yo confuni el termino) EuDeCo (European Debian Conference) mooch aka data -- Jesus Climent | Unix SysAdm | Helsinki, Finland | pumuki.hispalinux.es GPG: 1024D/86946D69 BB64 2339 1CAA 7064 E429 7E18 66FC 1D7F 8694 6D69 -- Registered Linux user #66350 proudly using Debian Sid Linux 2.4.20 The world doesn't just disappear when you close your eyes, does it? --Leonard Shelby (Memento)
DebConf4, España si España no y tal y tal
Hola a todos, sólo deciros que: Algunos estamos intentando que la DebConf4 sea en nuestra tierra, motivos hay suficientes: * Unos proyectos en marcha que hace EMHO la comunidad de usuarios Debian mayor del mundo, al menos por kilómetro cuadrado. * Un horizonte de proyectos a realizar, de los que se beneficiaría el Proyecto Debian de forma directa. * Recursos económicos, materiales y humanos para realizarla. Más otros motivos que ayudan: * Buen clima (estoy con el amigo Gunnar, igual un cambio de fechas sería bueno). * Buena gastronomía. * Hombres bravos y mujeres hermosas X- Pues eso, no estoy de broma en absoluto, esto va en serio. No quiero dar más datos ni mover más el tema porque odio el ruido, cuando se tenga algo más sólido lo haré saber. Obviamente se necesitará colaboración de la comunidad de desarrolladores hispana y concretamente la de aquí para arrimar el hombro pero bueno, eso lo doy por supuesto y sigo con mi labor de gestión };-) Saludos y ánimo, que esto se pone cada vez más interesante y en forma de espiral ;-) -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ingeniero Industrial - YACO S.L. Albareda 24, 41001 Sevilla - España Tfno: 954293600 FAX: 954210326 GnuPG public key: http://db.debian.org signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: DebConf4, España si España no y tal y tal
On May/22, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez wrote: * Unos proyectos en marcha que hace EMHO la comunidad de usuarios Debian mayor del mundo, al menos por kilómetro cuadrado. Hombre, no creo que éste sea buen argumento. No sé cuántos desarrolladores hay entre España y Sudamérica, pero supongo que habrá tantos o menos que en USA o el resto de Europa :-m No lo he mirado para asegurarme, pero esa es mi impresión O:-) * Buen clima (estoy con el amigo Gunnar, igual un cambio de fechas sería bueno). Y sin duda será algo que les gustará a los desarrolladores de climas más fríos :-) ¿Cuál era la fecha original? O:-? * Buena gastronomía. Ah, ¿es que quieres que se celebre en Galicia? :-? };-D * Hombres bravos y mujeres hermosas X- X- algo más sólido lo haré saber. Obviamente se necesitará colaboración de la comunidad de desarrolladores hispana y concretamente la de aquí para arrimar el hombro pero bueno, eso lo doy por supuesto y sigo con mi labor de gestión };-) A mí lo de viajar me molesta, pero si se trata de ayuda virtual, y según qué fechas, a lo mejor puedo ayudar :-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto Alfa21 Outsourcing [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.alfa21.com
Re: DebConf4, España si España no y tal y tal
El jue, 22-05-2003 a las 10:24, Roberto Suarez Soto escribió: On May/22, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez wrote: * Unos proyectos en marcha que hace EMHO la comunidad de usuarios Debian mayor del mundo, al menos por kilómetro cuadrado. Hombre, no creo que éste sea buen argumento. No sé cuántos desarrolladores hay entre España y Sudamérica, pero supongo que habrá tantos o menos que en USA o el resto de Europa :-m No lo he mirado para asegurarme, pero esa es mi impresión O:-) Ha puesto usuarios, no desarrolladores :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hispalinux.es http://www.monohispano.org http://www.es.gnome.org Debian GNU/Linux Sid Llevamos cadenas aunque no las veamos, y somos esclavos aunque nos llamemos hombres libres. -- Oscar Wilde.
Re: DebConf4, España si España no y tal y tal
El día 22 may 2003, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez escribía: Hola a todos, sólo deciros que: Algunos estamos intentando que la DebConf4 sea en nuestra tierra, motivos hay suficientes: * Unos proyectos en marcha que hace EMHO la comunidad de usuarios Debian mayor del mundo, al menos por kilómetro cuadrado. * Un horizonte de proyectos a realizar, de los que se beneficiaría el Proyecto Debian de forma directa. * Recursos económicos, materiales y humanos para realizarla. Lo único que digo yo es que la próxima toca en el continente americano, por el acuerdo tácito que hay de hacer una un año en un lado y otra en el otro. Otra cuestión es que aquí se pueda organizar una cosa grande con mucho apoyo. Sería cosa de verlo. El thread sobre una posible conferencia en EE.UU. está aquí (d-devel) http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200305/msg01374.html -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpRYYZWmGxxO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DebConf4, España si España no y tal y tal
El jue, 22-05-2003 a las 10:52, Roberto Suarez Soto escribió: De todas formas, sigue habiendo más usuarios potenciales en USA o Europa que en España/Sudamérica, simplemente porque un ordenador es más asequible en USA y Europa que en Sudamérica. Y sí, otra vez es una opinión personal no especialmente documentada :-D Es una cuestión de proporción. En Extremadura todos los niños usan debian en el colegio. No creo que los yankis puedan decir lo mismo. :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hispalinux.es http://www.monohispano.org http://www.es.gnome.org Debian GNU/Linux Sid Llevamos cadenas aunque no las veamos, y somos esclavos aunque nos llamemos hombres libres. -- Oscar Wilde.
Re: Un par de problemas empaquetando aplicaciones KDE
Al mié 21 de may de 2003 a las 02:28 +0200, Alex escribió: Hola. Antes de nada, un par de cosas. En primer lugar, saludar a los miembros de la lista (es mi primer correo aquí), y felicitar a todos los que ayudan a Debian de cualquier forma. Esta distribución a mí me está encantando en muchos sentidos, y veo que a mi alrededor muchos más se están apuntando. Por algo será... En segundo lugar, disculparme si este mensaje está fuera de tema en esta lista. Tal vez sea más apropiado preguntar en debian-mentors, pero como aún me siento un poco perdido, prefería hacerlo aquí, y en castellano O:-). Llevo unas semanas apuntado a la lista, y todavía no me he quedado bien con cual es el topic, lo siento. Bueno, a lo que iva... Estoy intentado empaquetar KMess para una máquina con Woody, más las actualizaciones de KDE (es lo que tengo yo, y casualmente he visto que más gente tiene la misma combinación de paquetes). El código compila sin problemas, y estuve probando el programa durante bastantes horas ayer. Todo correcto. Luego me dispongo a empaquetarlo, y en el dh_make, uso -t /usr/share/doc/kdelibs4-dev/dh-make como recomendaba Ralf Nolden, que por lo que veo, usa las rutas correctas al ejecutar el configure. Reviso, corrijo y añado lo que haga falta del directorio debian (siguiendo la Guía del Nuevo Desarrollador de Debian), y luego lo intenté compilar, tanto con debuild, como con dpkg-buildpackage, y usando el -rfakeroot. Entonces me da errorres... ¡en los encabezados de las Qt! -8 In file included from /usr/include/qt3/qtoolbar.h:42, from /usr/include/qt3/qmainwindow.h:43, from /usr/include/kde/kmainwindow.h:28, from kmessinterface.h:24, from kmessinterface.cpp:18, from kmess.all_cpp.cpp:11: /usr/include/qt3/qdockwindow.h: At top level: /usr/include/qt3/qdockwindow.h:83: parse error before `2' /usr/include/qt3/qdockwindow.h:83: missing ';' before right brace /usr/include/qt3/qdockwindow.h:85: parse error before `=' /usr/include/qt3/qdockwindow.h:86: parse error before `*' /usr/include/qt3/qdockwindow.h:87: destructors must be member functions [...] Que contiene el Build-Depends de debian/control ? -- Eric VAN BUGGENHAUT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DebConf4, España si España no y tal y tal
On May/22, Jesus Climent wrote: De todas formas, sigue habiendo más usuarios potenciales en USA o No da una. por kilometro cuadrado ¿Y eso? :-? Por extensión, es más grande el territorio de Sudamérica y España sumado que el de USA o el resto de Europa. No creo que sea mucha diferencia que diga por kilómetro cuadrado :-) A menos que sea una broma, claro, pero entonces no la pillo ;-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto Alfa21 Outsourcing [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.alfa21.com
Re: DebConf4, Espaa si Espaa no y tal y tal
El 22-may-2003 a las 10:24:21, Roberto Suarez Soto escribió: On May/22, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez wrote: * Unos proyectos en marcha que hace EMHO la comunidad de usuarios Debian mayor del mundo, al menos por kilómetro cuadrado. Hombre, no creo que éste sea buen argumento. No sé cuántos desarrolladores hay entre España y Sudamérica, pero supongo que habrá tantos o menos que en USA o el resto de Europa :-m No lo he mirado para asegurarme, pero esa es mi impresión O:-) En db.debian.org puedes hacer busquedas de desarrolladores, pero en usuarios por Km² ganamos de fijo :) * Buen clima (estoy con el amigo Gunnar, igual un cambio de fechas sería bueno). Y sin duda será algo que les gustará a los desarrolladores de climas más fríos :-) ¿Cuál era la fecha original? O:-? Creo que una fecha adecuada es a principios de mayo, por que en Abril suele llover más a menudo. Véase la Guadec3. * Buena gastronomía. Ah, ¿es que quieres que se celebre en Galicia? :-? };-D Jias, tu preguntale a los escoceses y portugueses que han estado en Sevilla para la final de la Copa de la UEFA a ver si tenemos, o no, buena gastronomía. * Hombres bravos y mujeres hermosas X- X- Repito, preguntale a los escoceces :-D algo más sólido lo haré saber. Obviamente se necesitará colaboración de la comunidad de desarrolladores hispana y concretamente la de aquí para arrimar el hombro pero bueno, eso lo doy por supuesto y sigo con mi labor de gestión };-) A mí lo de viajar me molesta, pero si se trata de ayuda virtual, y según qué fechas, a lo mejor puedo ayudar :-) A mi lo de viajar me encanta O:-) -- Teófilo Ruiz Suárez ||(teo)|| Sevilla, España [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG Key ID: 420718E6 FPR: 0280 862C 064B FA76 9A1C EB64 5755 A66C 4207 18E6 pgpTBfe23zdQo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DebConf4, España si España no y tal y tal
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 11:20:42AM +0200, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: Lo único que digo yo es que la próxima toca en el continente americano, por el acuerdo tácito que hay de hacer una un año en un lado y otra en el otro. A ver, distingamos dos cosas: 1.- la Debconf que se hace todos los años, y a la que va (o quiere ir) los DDs. Esa se cambia de continente cada año, para evitar partidisimos, como las Olimpiadas. Es a nivel _mundial_. 2.- mini-Debconfs (llamadla X) que organiza alguien porque hay interés _local_ en hacerla. Esa es la que se hace en Australia. No quita que se invite a gente de fuera (y venga). Yo creo que el 1) se puede plantear cuando toque otra vez Europa (se nos adelantó Tollef en proponerla esta año en Oslo) pero el 2) se puede hacer cuando se quiera. Por ejemplo, el próximo año. Si se hace en fechas que _no_ coincidan con la Debconf más posibilidades de poder traer a gente importante (con matices :-) como el DL. Yo propondí hacer una votación para ver cómo respiraría la gente en: - lugar (aquí hay que tener en cuenta que si quieres que venga gente de fuera, como en 1) tienes que tener muy en cuenta las comunicaciones, hoteles, residencias...) - fechas Una vez decidido que hay gente que puede moverlo en el lugar decidido se pone en marcha. ¿No? :-) Javi pgpnRhK8Mfo5T.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DebConf4, España si España no y tal y tal
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 12:03:52PM +0200, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: On May/22, Jesus Climent wrote: De todas formas, sigue habiendo más usuarios potenciales en USA o No da una. por kilometro cuadrado ¿Y eso? :-? Por extensión, es más grande el territorio de Sudamérica y España sumado que el de USA o el resto de Europa. No creo que sea mucha diferencia que diga por kilómetro cuadrado :-) Hablamos de Andalucia+Extremadura = (pongamos 1 km) Si en esa zona todas las escuelas y organismos publicos usan debian... OTTIA! una densidad impresionante. data -- Jesus Climent | Unix SysAdm | Helsinki, Finland | pumuki.hispalinux.es GPG: 1024D/86946D69 BB64 2339 1CAA 7064 E429 7E18 66FC 1D7F 8694 6D69 -- Registered Linux user #66350 proudly using Debian Sid Linux 2.4.20 This was to be my final hit, but let's be clear about this. There's final hits and final hits. What kind was this to be? --Renton (Trainspotting)
Re: DebConf4,España si España no y tal y tal
Mensaje citado por: Jesus Climent [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:52:12AM +0200, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: On May/22, tapia wrote: * Unos proyectos en marcha que hace EMHO la comunidad de usuarios Debian mayor del mundo, al menos por kilómetro cuadrado. Ha puesto usuarios, no desarrolladores :-) De todas formas, sigue habiendo más usuarios potenciales en USA o No da una. por kilometro cuadrado Entonces la hacemos en mi casa, que tiene 45 m cuadrados y mis dos hermanos ya usan tb http://metadistros.hispalinux.es ;) ¿cuantos vendreis? lo digo para decirle a mi padre el numero de cochinos que tiene que criar este año ;) Abrazos desde el frente data aka mooch -- Jesus Climent | Unix SysAdm | Helsinki, Finland | pumuki.hispalinux.es GPG: 1024D/86946D69 BB64 2339 1CAA 7064 E429 7E18 66FC 1D7F 8694 6D69 -- Registered Linux user #66350 proudly using Debian Sid Linux 2.4.20 - ... todos necesitamos creer en algo. - Si, yo también creo... Creo... que me voy a tomar una cerveza. --Sor Trini (Año Mariano) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ¡¡ÑU!!
Re: DebConf4,España si España no y tal y tal
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 02:42:02PM +0200, Roberto Santos wrote: ¿cuantos vendreis? lo digo para decirle a mi padre el numero de cochinos que tiene que criar este año ;) Y para los que no comemos carne sin plumas, una ensaladita? data -- Jesus Climent | Unix SysAdm | Helsinki, Finland | pumuki.hispalinux.es GPG: 1024D/86946D69 BB64 2339 1CAA 7064 E429 7E18 66FC 1D7F 8694 6D69 -- Registered Linux user #66350 proudly using Debian Sid Linux 2.4.20 So much to do, so little time... --Joker (Batman)
nuevo y pregunta
Hola, llevo ya un tiempo lurking esta lista de correo. Así que sirva este mensaje de presentación. Hace ya tiempo que uso debian y cada día estoy más encantado. Tengo en mi casa un sistema de sensores de temperaturas conectados a una caja debian que me va registrando la temperatura y haciendo unas bonitas gráficas (http://www.roncero.org/temp). Utilizo un programa que lee de los sensores http://www.brianlane.com/digitemp.php y, al no encontrarse este empaquetado para debian ni tenerlo el autor en su web me gustaría crearle unos debs. Teo Ruíz Suárez me animó a empaquetarlo y que si tenía algún problema le preguntase (gracias). Como veo que lee esta lista, hago mis preguntas aquí y así las comparto con todos vosotros (¿es la lista correcta?). El programa en sí no es mucha cosa, se compone de un binario y poco más, algo de documentación y los readme. No tiene ni página man (se qu epara debian hay que hacer una). el fichero de configuración se guarda en el directorio que tu le especifiques (no tiene por qué ser el $HOME/), con lo cual es más fácil hacerlo. He estado haciendo un paquete siguiendo la guía del nuevo mantenedor de debian y, la verdad, no he tenido muchos problemas después de leerme casi todo el tema. Aunque tengo algunas dudas/problemillas que me gustaría comentar. La primera dificultad que le veo, es que los fuentes y el makefile están preparados para crear dos tipos de binarios. Resulta que el sistema éste de los sensores puede utilizar dos tipos de adaptadores (para el puerto serie), uno pasivo (que te puedes hacer tu si tienes maña y soldando) y otro activo, que le puedes comprar al fabricante (que lleva unchip para gestionar toda la comunicación con el bus). El makefile está diseñado para que construyas o bien un binario u otro, eligiendo algunos ficheros fuente en C u otros, dependiendo del tipo de adaptador que tengas. El resultado es que tienes un binario, con el mismo nombre pero preparado para un sistema u otro. O sea, yo hago make ds9097 y tengo soporte para el adaptador pasivo. Si hago make ds9097u tengo soporte para el adaptador activo. Para hacer unas pruebas, modifiqué el makefile para que hiciese sólo el binario para el ds9097, que es el adaptador que yo tengo. Y creé el deb. Sólo tuve un problema y es que no me incluyó la página man que están en debian/digitemp.1 (¿hay que ponerlo así, no?). De todas formas, la página era la de ejemplo y no se si hice algo mal. tengo que seguir investigando. Hacer un paquete único así, con este, me ha resultado en cierto punto fácil, pero supongo que la aproximación para tratar este software (los dos binarios) es un tanto diferente. Primeramente, había pensado en hacer dos paquetes, uno para que tuviese cada binario, a partir de los mismos fuentes. Supongo que eso se hace eligiendo multiple package con el dh_make, ¿no? y luego modificando los ficheros debian/* en concordancia pero, si en ámbos paquetes el binario ses llama igual, tendrán que ser incompatibles, no? Otra forma sería que el binario se llamase de de distinta forma, ie digitemp y digitempu, pero eso debería depender del upstream, no? Me gustaría recibir algún consejo de cómo hacer esto y/o alguna indicación al respecto para ir trabajando sobre el paquete y,si tengo alguna duda, preguntarlo aquí. Sin más, pues un saludo y muchas gracias. -- JRF
Re: Un par de problemas empaquetando aplicaciones KDE
Hola Alex y Eric, On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 11:29:28AM +0200, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote: Al mié 21 de may de 2003 a las 02:28 +0200, Alex escribió: Bueno, a lo que iva... Estoy intentado empaquetar KMess para una máquina con Woody, más las actualizaciones de KDE (es lo que tengo yo, y casualmente he visto que más gente tiene la misma combinación de paquetes). El código compila sin problemas, y estuve probando el programa durante bastantes horas ayer. Todo correcto. [...] Luego me dispongo a empaquetarlo, y en el dh_make, uso -t /usr/share/doc/kdelibs4-dev/dh-make como recomendaba Ralf Nolden, que por lo que veo, usa las rutas correctas al ejecutar el configure. Reviso, corrijo y añado lo que haga falta del directorio debian (siguiendo la Guía del Nuevo Desarrollador de Debian), y luego lo intenté compilar, tanto con debuild, como con dpkg-buildpackage, y usando el -rfakeroot. Entonces me da errorres... ¡en los encabezados de las Qt! -8 In file included from /usr/include/qt3/qtoolbar.h:42, from /usr/include/qt3/qmainwindow.h:43, from /usr/include/kde/kmainwindow.h:28, from kmessinterface.h:24, from kmessinterface.cpp:18, from kmess.all_cpp.cpp:11: /usr/include/qt3/qdockwindow.h: At top level: /usr/include/qt3/qdockwindow.h:83: parse error before `2' /usr/include/qt3/qdockwindow.h:83: missing ';' before right brace /usr/include/qt3/qdockwindow.h:85: parse error before `=' /usr/include/qt3/qdockwindow.h:86: parse error before `*' /usr/include/qt3/qdockwindow.h:87: destructors must be member functions [...] Que contiene el Build-Depends de debian/control ? Hmmm, pero si le compila sin debianizar, las Build-Depends _tendrian_ que estar bien. Puede que el problema venga de los flags que se le pasa al compilador o de que compilador se use, o ... Alex puedes colgar el source del deb para que nos lo miremos ? Y tu sources.list ? saludos, guillem
Re: Debconf 3
El jue, 22-05-2003 a las 03:40, Gunnar Wolf escribió: Pero si nos ponemos las pilas, se puede organizar en España. Al fin y al cabo, sólo es que alguien se mueva un poco para buscar un sitio y empezar a conseguir patrocinadores. Pues a mí se me ocurre hacer la en el sur, rollo Mérida, en plan colegio mayor y muy muy secta :-) No jodas. ¿En verano? A la playita de Cadiz, niña. En Extremadura paramos a comer, en todo caso. ;-) Estimados, hagámonos un favor: Las veces que he estado en España en verano, hace un calor insoportable. Si hace un calor insoportable, es imposible pensar. Si es imposible pensar, lo único que lograríamos en un DebCong (en español es congreso, no conference) es juntarnos a emborracharnos. Y... No, no, no, no digo que juntarnos a emborracharnos esté mal, pero es que es mejor si también podemos trabajar :) Además, falta todo un año para el próximo verano. ¿Primavera? ¿Fines de invierno? :) Hola El VI Congreso de Hispalinux es en Octubre de este año, quizá hacerlo tan cerca (pj fin de semana antes) que permitiese aprovechar el viaje Solo es una idea O:-) Un Abrazo desde el frente Saludos, -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)5630-9700 ext. 1366 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF -- ¡¡Ñu!! tiorober/ P.D. Conste que sé ortografía, pongo faltas para que veais que no lo escribe un script ;-P
Re: DebConf4, España si España no y tal y tal
On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 03:24, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: On May/22, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez wrote: * Unos proyectos en marcha que hace EMHO la comunidad de usuarios Debian mayor del mundo, al menos por kilómetro cuadrado. Hombre, no creo que éste sea buen argumento. No sé cuántos desarrolladores hay entre España y Sudamérica, pero supongo que habrá tantos o menos que en USA o el resto de Europa :-m No lo he mirado para asegurarme, pero esa es mi impresión O:-) Opinión ¿Y si se celebrara en algún lugar con no muchos desarrolladores de Debian, precisamente para difundir y predicar Debian? :-D No sé... Me viene a la mente algún país de Latinoamérica, donde no hay una gran cantidad de desarrolladores ;) /Opinión Saludos! ;) -- Damog * Perdónenme por ser pandroso y tener mal aspecto... Sólamente quiero bailar ska. http://www.damog.org - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 33111272 - M$N: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DebConf4, España si España no y tal y tal
On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 04:20, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: Lo único que digo yo es que la próxima toca en el continente americano, por el acuerdo tácito que hay de hacer una un año en un lado y otra en el otro. ¿Por qué no se intenta como con la Copa Mundial? ;) ¿O bueno, lo que se intentaba? Hacer una, cada año, en un continente. Ya es en Europa, luego en América, luego en África, Asia, Oceanía. ;) Sería un lindo juego mundial ;) Saludos. -- Damog * Perdónenme por ser pandroso y tener mal aspecto... Sólamente quiero bailar ska. http://www.damog.org - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 33111272 - M$N: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Un par de problemas empaquetando aplicaciones KDE
El Jueves, 22 de Mayo de 2003 15:19, Guillem Jover escribió: [...] Que contiene el Build-Depends de debian/control ? Hmmm, pero si le compila sin debianizar, las Build-Depends _tendrian_ que estar bien. Puede que el problema venga de los flags que se le pasa al compilador o de que compilador se use, o .. Alex puedes colgar el source del deb para que nos lo miremos ? Y tu sources.list ? Mi sources.list está algo liado :-(. Tengo debian woody más unos cuantos backports (puede que ahí esté el problema). Los backports eran los que había en el repositorio de Ralf Nolden, pero ahora están retirados algunos de esos paquetes. Según recuerdo, no solo eran de KDE, ya que también estaban versiones actualizadas de bash, autoconf, y automake. Ahí va el sources.list, y si sirve, he hecho un dpkg -l paquetes, y lo he puesto en: http://lacurva.net/misc/paquetes -[sources.list]-- # Mirror de RedIris para kde (download.kde.org) deb ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/kde/stable/latest/Debian woody main #open office para woody (i386) deb http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/ftp.vpn-junkies.de/openoffice/ woody main contrib # Fuentes de Debian _sid_ (ojo!) #deb http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free # Fuentes para Debian woody deb ftp://ftp.debian.nl/debian/ woody main non-free contrib deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.nl/debian/ woody main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ woody/updates main contrib non-free --[sources.list]-- El resto que me pides... no estoy muy seguro de qué es O:-), pero ahí va un tar del directorio justo antes del dpkg-buildpackage: http://lacurva.net/misc/kmess-1.2.1-debianized.tar.gz (el directorio dentro del tar tiene el nombre cambiado, lo sé... cuando lo construía, tenía el correcto de nombre-versión). El resto de ficheros generados: http://lacurva.net/misc/kmess_1.2.1-0woody1.dsc http://lacurva.net/misc/kmess_1.2.1-0woody1.tar.gz http://lacurva.net/misc/kmess-1.2.1.tar.gz Ahora que lo pienso... Cambié el valor que aparece en el changelog (siguiendo lo poco que ponía en el redme de Nolden para hacer paquetes para KDE), y le añadí 0woody, ¿es posible que falle por no haber cambiado también el nombre del directorio? Muchas gracias por el interés :-). Saludos! -- Alex (a.k.a. suy) - GPG ID 0xAA8D2A01 http://lacurva.net/ - Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Teclado no encontrado. Para continuar pulse F1.
Re: DebConf4, España si España no y tal y tal
(por favor, no me incluyáis en el CC, leñe!) El día 22 may 2003, David Moreno Garza escribía: On Thu, 2003-05-22 at 04:20, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: Lo único que digo yo es que la próxima toca en el continente americano, por el acuerdo tácito que hay de hacer una un año en un lado y otra en el otro. ¿Por qué no se intenta como con la Copa Mundial? ;) ¿O bueno, lo que se intentaba? Hacer una, cada año, en un continente. Ya es en Europa, luego en América, luego en África, Asia, Oceanía. ;) La cuestió es hacerlo cerca de la gente que va a ir. Y la mayor concentración de desarrolladores está en Europa y Norteamérica. Hacerlo en Australia o América del Sur significa viajes muy caros para mucha gente, lo que no se puede sufragar a menos que haya un patrocinador muy muy fuerte detrás. Sin esto, la mayor parte de los desarrolladores se abstendrán de ir. -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpmyH7SZ2uH3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nuevo y pregunta
El día 22 may 2003, Jesús Roncero escribía: Hola, llevo ya un tiempo lurking esta lista de correo. Así que sirva este mensaje de presentación. Hace ya tiempo que uso debian y cada día estoy más encantado. Tengo en mi casa un sistema de sensores de temperaturas conectados a una caja debian que me va registrando la temperatura y haciendo unas bonitas gráficas (http://www.roncero.org/temp). Utilizo un programa que lee de los sensores http://www.brianlane.com/digitemp.php y, al no encontrarse este empaquetado para debian ni tenerlo el autor en su web me gustaría crearle unos debs. Teo Ruíz Suárez me animó a empaquetarlo y que si tenía algún problema le preguntase (gracias). Como veo que lee esta lista, hago mis preguntas aquí y así las comparto con todos vosotros (¿es la lista correcta?). Sí. El programa en sí no es mucha cosa, se compone de un binario y poco más, algo de documentación y los readme. No tiene ni página man (se qu epara debian hay que hacer una). el fichero de configuración se guarda en el directorio que tu le especifiques (no tiene por qué ser el $HOME/), con lo cual es más fácil hacerlo. He estado haciendo un paquete siguiendo la guía del nuevo mantenedor de debian y, la verdad, no he tenido muchos problemas después de leerme casi todo el tema. Aunque tengo algunas dudas/problemillas que me gustaría comentar. La primera dificultad que le veo, es que los fuentes y el makefile están preparados para crear dos tipos de binarios. Resulta que el sistema éste de los sensores puede utilizar dos tipos de adaptadores (para el puerto serie), uno pasivo (que te puedes hacer tu si tienes maña y soldando) y otro activo, que le puedes comprar al fabricante (que lleva unchip para gestionar toda la comunicación con el bus). El makefile está diseñado para que construyas o bien un binario u otro, eligiendo algunos ficheros fuente en C u otros, dependiendo del tipo de adaptador que tengas. El resultado es que tienes un binario, con el mismo nombre pero preparado para un sistema u otro. O sea, yo hago make ds9097 y tengo soporte para el adaptador pasivo. Si hago make ds9097u tengo soporte para el adaptador activo. Para hacer unas pruebas, modifiqué el makefile para que hiciese sólo el binario para el ds9097, que es el adaptador que yo tengo. Y creé el deb. Sólo tuve un problema y es que no me incluyó la página man que están en debian/digitemp.1 (¿hay que ponerlo así, no?). De todas formas, la página era la de ejemplo y no se si hice algo mal. tengo que seguir investigando. Hacer un paquete único así, con este, me ha resultado en cierto punto fácil, pero supongo que la aproximación para tratar este software (los dos binarios) es un tanto diferente. La página de manual la tienes que incluir tú mediante una orden en el debian/rules. Como supongo que estarás usando debhelper, mírate la página de dh_installman. Primeramente, había pensado en hacer dos paquetes, uno para que tuviese cada binario, a partir de los mismos fuentes. Supongo que eso se hace eligiendo multiple package con el dh_make, ¿no? y luego modificando los ficheros debian/* en concordancia pero, si en ámbos paquetes el binario ses llama igual, tendrán que ser incompatibles, no? Otra forma sería que el binario se llamase de de distinta forma, ie digitemp y digitempu, pero eso debería depender del upstream, no? Me gustaría recibir algún consejo de cómo hacer esto y/o alguna indicación al respecto para ir trabajando sobre el paquete y,si tengo alguna duda, preguntarlo aquí. Lo de los dos paquetes es un poquillo complicado, porque tienes que hacer que el programa se compile dos veces, una con cada opción. No es que sea imposible, sólo digo que no es trivial y hay que entender el proceso. Dos ejemplos de cómo hacer esto los tienes en abiword y vim. Bájate las fuentes y mírate cómo lo hacen. Básicamente la cosa consiste en tener objetivos del debian/rules paralelos. Así tendrías un build-serial y un build-smart (por ejemplo), un install-serial y un install-smart y así. Lo que tienes que hacer es que el dpkg-buildpackage los llame en el orden correcto (clean, cofigure, build-serial, install-serial, clean-serial, build-smart, install-smart). El problema de los nombres se soluciona o haciendo los paquetes con un conflicts o cambiando el nombre al binario. Lo más fácil es lo primero, porque en el otro caso, aunque cambiar el nombre es fácil (es un 'mv' en el debian/rules) te deberías meter con historias de alternativas para que haya un comando 'digitemp' que es el que espera el usuario. Un saludo y ánimo :) -- Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpe6IgTsEEoc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Problema con apt-get update
Hola a todos Hace una semana o asi que instale knoppix v3.2 en el disco duro y ademas de algun otro problema no tan grabe hoy no he conseguido actualizarla ya ke al hacer un apt-get update me responde tal ke asi.. Fetched 9546kB in 6m10s (25.8kB/s) Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing 3dchess (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. ... he probado comentando ese mirror en mi source.list .. pero da error en todos.. como lo arreglo??.. alguna idea?? -- Daniel Firvida Linux user #279011 --
Re: Problema con apt-get update
El Thu, May 22, 2003 at 06:49:47PM +0200, Daniel Firvida escribió: Hola a todos Hace una semana o asi que instale knoppix v3.2 en el disco duro y ademas de algun otro problema no tan grabe hoy no he conseguido actualizarla ya ke al hacer un apt-get update me responde tal ke asi.. Fetched 9546kB in 6m10s (25.8kB/s) Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing 3dchess (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. ... he probado comentando ese mirror en mi source.list .. pero da error en todos.. como lo arreglo??.. alguna idea?? Supongo que estás en sid, yo que tu descargaría la última versión del 'apt' con el wget y la instalaría con el 'dpkg': # wget http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.5.5.1_i386.deb # dpkg -i apt_0.5.5.1_i386.deb Con esto creo que resolverás tu problema ... -- Sergio Talens-Oliag [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~sto/ Key fingerprint = 29DF 544F 1BD9 548C 8F15 86EF 6770 052B B8C1 FA69 pgpN4QRtmRMl8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problema con apt-get update
El Jueves, 22 de Mayo de 2003 19:14, Sergio Talens-Oliag escribió: El Thu, May 22, 2003 at 06:49:47PM +0200, Daniel Firvida escribió: Hola a todos Hace una semana o asi que instale knoppix v3.2 en el disco duro y ademas de algun otro problema no tan grabe hoy no he conseguido actualizarla ya ke al hacer un apt-get update me responde tal ke asi.. Fetched 9546kB in 6m10s (25.8kB/s) Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing 3dchess (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_stable_main_binary- i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. ... he probado comentando ese mirror en mi source.list .. pero da error en todos.. como lo arreglo??.. alguna idea?? Supongo que estás en sid, yo que tu descargaría la última versión del 'apt' con el wget y la instalaría con el 'dpkg': # wget http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.5.5.1_i386.deb # dpkg -i apt_0.5.5.1_i386.deb Con esto creo que resolverás tu problema ... Pues .. no ;( aunke efectivamente esto es Sid y tenia un apt-get version 0.5.4.x sigue tal cual.. ami lo ke me descoloca un poco es Dynamic MMap ran out of room .. ke no tengo ni idea ke kiere decir.. pero ke suena mal -- Daniel Firvida Linux user #279011 --
Re: DebConf4, España si España no y tal y tal
David Moreno Garza dijo [Thu, May 22, 2003 at 09:15:06AM -0500]: ¿Y si se celebrara en algún lugar con no muchos desarrolladores de Debian, precisamente para difundir y predicar Debian? :-D No sé... Me viene a la mente algún país de Latinoamérica, donde no hay una gran cantidad de desarrolladores ;) Ah, mi querido Damog... Creo que sí hace falta que haya un par más de DDs por acá, por lo menos para la cuestión logística - ¿Recuerdas que no quiero aventarme otro congreso este año? ;-) Yo sugeriría fuertemente que fuera por acá, pero en un par de añitos. -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)5630-9700 ext. 1366 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF
Re: Problema con apt-get update
El Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:02:23PM +0200, Daniel Firvida escribió: El Jueves, 22 de Mayo de 2003 19:14, Sergio Talens-Oliag escribió: El Thu, May 22, 2003 at 06:49:47PM +0200, Daniel Firvida escribió: Hola a todos Hace una semana o asi que instale knoppix v3.2 en el disco duro y ademas de algun otro problema no tan grabe hoy no he conseguido actualizarla ya ke al hacer un apt-get update me responde tal ke asi.. Fetched 9546kB in 6m10s (25.8kB/s) Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing 3dchess (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_pub_debian_dists_stable_main_binary- i386_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. ... he probado comentando ese mirror en mi source.list .. pero da error en todos.. como lo arreglo??.. alguna idea?? Supongo que estás en sid, yo que tu descargaría la última versión del 'apt' con el wget y la instalaría con el 'dpkg': # wget http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.5.5.1_i386.deb # dpkg -i apt_0.5.5.1_i386.deb Con esto creo que resolverás tu problema ... Pues .. no ;( aunke efectivamente esto es Sid y tenia un apt-get version 0.5.4.x sigue tal cual.. ami lo ke me descoloca un poco es Dynamic MMap ran out of room .. ke no tengo ni idea ke kiere decir.. pero ke suena mal Pues no se que decirte, a un amigo mío le pasaba lo mismo y al instalar el apt lo solucionó, aunque creo que actualizó también el dpkg (yo tengo la 1.10.10, si tienes una más vieja prueba a actualizar tambien). -- Sergio Talens-Oliag [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~sto/ Key fingerprint = 29DF 544F 1BD9 548C 8F15 86EF 6770 052B B8C1 FA69 pgpeRBQjiLGXX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problema con apt-get update
Daniel Firvida [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo:
El Jueves, 22 de Mayo de 2003 19:14, Sergio Talens-Oliag escribió:
Pues .. no ;( aunke efectivamente esto es Sid y tenia un apt-get version
0.5.4.x sigue tal cual.. ami lo ke me descoloca un poco es Dynamic MMap ran
out of room .. ke no tengo ni idea ke kiere decir.. pero ke suena mal
Estos mensajes deberían ir a debian-user-spanish en lugar de a
debian-devel-spanish ... de todos modos para solucionar tu problema basta
con que crees un fichero /etc/apt/apt.conf y escribas lo siguiente en el:
APT
{
Cache-Limit 141943904;
}
Salud
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it was only because I stood on the shoulders of giants.
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