Re: modutils
I was worried yesterday that I would not be able to boot the box, but the upgrade went quite well. Thanks, Debian. On that box dselect shows: -**modules ***modutils and does not have a modules.prerm. My box at home shows ***modules ***modutils and modules.prerm has no checks. On neither box did /etc/init.d/boot get changed to reference modutils. So I edited it with vi g. Everything works. but I thought this should be reported in view of the approach of 1.3. Thanks for the help Lindsay =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perth, Western Australia voice +61 9 316 2486modem +61 9 364-9832 http: Real soon now. debian linux =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Clint Adams wrote: I'm trying to upgrade modules to modutils but dpkg says: Kernel was compiled with module support Modules package cannot be removed Ideas? I'm in the field at the moment. What I did was to edit the modules.prerm file in /var/lib/dpkg/info and delete the check described above. Then the upgrade proceeded smoothly. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Dial-in Config Problem
Rick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- This is from the NET-2-HOWTO. You can find more in the ppp-HOWTO and I believe the serial howto. Configuring a PPP server is similar to establishing a SLIP server. You can create a special `ppp' account, which uses an executable script as its login shell. The /etc/passwd entry might look like: ppp:EncPasswd:102:50:PPP client login:/tmp:/etc/ppp/ppplogin and the /etc/ppp/ppplogin script might look like: #!/bin/sh exec /usr/sbin/pppd passive :192.1.2.23 The address that you provide will be the address that the calling machine will be assigned. Naturally, if you want multiple users to have simultaneous access you would have to create a number of startup scripts and individual accounts for each to use, as you can only put one ip address in each script. Sure, you could do that if you want. Actually though, you don't even have to go that far. mgetty is smart enough to detect PPP on it's own so you don't really even need an account (read: entry in /etc/passwd) for a dialin user, or your dialin user can use their *same* login and password. This can be accomplished by using the following line in your /etc/mgetty/login : /AutoPPP/ - - /usr/sbin/pppd proxyarp auth -chap +pap login modem crtscts 1.2.3.4:5.6.7.8 That way you never even have to spawn a shell. If you wanted a fixed IP for each user, you could configure that almost the same way, by using the login instead of /AutoPPP/ but in that case the user (or their script, rather) would have to type their login name at a login: prompt, after which mgetty would start pppd. Note that doing this also makes it so that pppd doesn't *have* to be setuid since mgetty can run pppd as root or what ever user-id you like. Long live the venerable mgetty! -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Frontpage and Linux (again)
Hi. I thought I had everything sorted with FP and Linux sigh... yet I now find that when I customer goes to upload a large web page I am getting this error in the apache error file. access to /var/web/electricity.co.nz/_vti_bin/_vti_aut/author.exe failed for port45-athene.es.co.nz, reason: Premature end of script headers I have the old library files installed as per the FAQ on RTR and it is still doing it. As an aside does anyone know of a reason why I can't put the SetEnv LD_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/local/frontpage/libs:/lib:/usr/lib line in the VirtualHost directive so that CGI scripts only get munged for that virtual host? Thanks for any and all help... this is driving me nuts! Adam. - Earthlight Communications Limited P.O. Box 5301 Adam Shand (fax) +64 3 477 5463 Dunedin, New Zealand Systems Manager(voice) +64 3 479 0303 http://www.earthlight.co.nz/larry/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: FINALLY! Relay control for smail
I have investigated exim ... I am part of a 50+ site uucp network with 6 uucp neighbors of my own. If each site changes connectivity only once per year, that is one change per week. smail's usage of pathalias uucp routing is great. Exim is fine if you have only smtp or maybe one uucp site. On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Tony Finch wrote: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to a posting in comp.mail.smail by Bruse Becker, relay control has been added to smail as of version 3.2.0.93 This is a MOST WELCOME feature and a security asset to any site on the net running smail. Do we have this verison as a package yet? You might want to investigate Exim, which has more security facilities than you can shake a stick at, and is just as easy to configure as smail. Tony. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xlock and shadow passwords
Is there a version of xlock with shadow passwords? -- Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t You tell me and we'll both know. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xlock and shadow passwords
On Apr 16, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote Is there a version of xlock with shadow passwords? Use xlockmore instead. It comes with a newmail binary which is aware of shadow passwords. It's quite nicer than the original xlock, too. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xlock and shadow passwords
On Apr 17, Martin Schulze wrote Is there a version of xlock with shadow passwords? Use xlockmore instead. It comes with a newmail binary ^^^ Errr... I meant an xlock binary. Sorry, should go to bed... which is aware of shadow passwords. It's quite nicer than the original xlock, too. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bi (Please stop it)
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Leslie Mikesell wrote: The issue relevant to this group is: what editor should someone expect to find on a system's boot/rescue disk? That someone presumably being a person with enough unix experience to recover from the usual problems that can make your machine fail to boot. The last thing you need at that point (especially if this is a server for many people) is a surprise from the editor or to have to learn a new one. So why is the issue that _seems_ to be relevant to the group (or at least the posters within) the minimization of the number of keystrokes or the level of injury supposedly inflicted by its interface? Besides, wouldn't a discussion of an appropiate boot/rescue disk editor be better suited for the developer's list? It would seem to me that they are the ones responsible for developing the actual boot disks. I agree with Joey's original message: let's let the editor debate rest a bit, folks, or give it focus and a new thread name. Thanks, Pete -- Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: routing setup question
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
lisa.thenet.ch icemark.thenet.ch firefranc
ppp0193.135.252.75 193.135.252.47
eth0192.168.101.1 192.168.101.2
[...]
The new setup should look like:
ISP My systems
lisa.thenet.ch icemark.thenet.ch firefranc.thenet.ch
--- ppp0 --- --- eth0 ---
193.135.252.75 193.135.252.47 193.135.252.179
Ok, I'm not sure why Rick wanted to swap the IP addresses for icemark
and firefranc, but here's a setup that should work based upon the
info you provided.
Icemark will use 193.135.252.47 as the IP address for *both* the
ppp interface and the ethernet interface. That is, icemark's
/etc/init.d/network should look like this:
#!/bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=193.135.252.47
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=193.135.252.0
BROADCAST=193.135.252.255
#GATEWAY=none
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
#route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
You won't set the default route at boot time since it doesn't exist.
Instead, make sure that you include the 'defaultroute' option in
your /etc/ppp/options or on the command line for pppd. Now, on
firefranc, you'll have the following for you /etc/init.d/network
#!/bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=193.135.252.179
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=193.135.252.0
BROADCAST=193.135.252.255
GATEWAY=193.135.252.47
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
This should do the trick. Yes, this means that if you do an ifconfig -a
when the ppp link is up on icemark, you'll see that ppp0 and eth0
*both* have 193.135.252.47 as their IP Address. This is ok, as long as
the netmasks are right.
but the netmasks are wrong. 255.255.255.0 is for a /24 (i.e. class C)
network. The network and broadcast addresses are wrong too, for the same
reason.
The reason you saw looping before when you tried a traceroute to
firefranc from icemark was probably because you still had the eth0's
IP address set to 192.168.101.1. Thus icemark routed the packet
for 193.135.252.179 to it's default route, the only one it knew.
lisa justly sent the packet back to icemark since it is set up to
route 193.135.179 to icemark. This behavior is as expected from your
settings. Now you know why IP packets have a Time-To-Live field!
The only problem with this is that neither machine will be able to
communicate directly with other machines on the 193.135.252/24 network -
with a netmask of 255.255.255.0 they will expect the entire 193.135.252
network to be on the local ethernet.
This could be a big problem if, for example, you need to communicate
directly with other customers of your ISP who use the same class C or
even worse if your ISP's news or www or www-proxy machines are on the
same class C.
NOTE: your network configuration would be **much** simpler if your ISP
would give you a small subnet rather than just two random ip addresses.
Ask your ISP to do this for you.
If your ISP can't or won't, then the only way i can think of at the
moment for getting the routing (almost) correct is to set up both
machines so that two small /30 subnets of 193.135.252 are routed via
the ethernet, and everything else is routed via the default gateway
(firefranc's def gw is icemark, icemark's def gw is the ppp interface).
Even this isn't perfect because there will be two subnets which your
machines wont be able to communicate with.
Alternatively, just use private 192.168.1.x addresses for the ethernet
and set up icemark to do IP masquerdading and transparent proxying.
There are very few limitations on what can be done with masquerading
these days, so this is probably the best (least messy!) solution for
you.
craig
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Re: FINALLY! Relay control for smail
I have investigated exim ... I am part of a 50+ site uucp network with 6 uucp neighbors of my own. If each site changes connectivity only once per year, that is one change per week. smail's usage of pathalias uucp routing is great. Exim is fine if you have only smtp or maybe one uucp site. This is true -- exim may no longer be EXperimental, but it's still an Internet Mailer even if people have nade it work with UUCP... T. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DEITY TEAM -- one comment
Francois Gouget writes: Unfortunately in some cases it is not so simple to check for space availability as /var may be on one partition, /usr on another and /lib yet somewhere else. Should be doable. df to get all the partitions and their capacities, df /var, df /usr, etc to get the filesystems containing these directories, and a script to sort it all out. Yet for most newbie installations it should be no problem (just one partition anyway),... Why do you think so? They will have been strongly advised to partition. ...those that made up many partitions probably already know what the space requirements will be. How? Otherwise how did they decide on the partition sizes ! The same source that told them to partition will also have suggested sizes. They may also have multiple disks. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Ping o' Death is killing pppd on my router.....
I use that fun awk stuff since my dialup is a dynamically assigned IP
address.
why not just use the arguments passed to /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down} by pppd?
They are documented in the comments at the beginning of the scripts
included with the ppp .deb package:
# $Id: ip-up,v 1.1 1996/01/31 21:25:59 alvar Exp $
#
# This script is run by the pppd after the link is established.
# It should be used to add routes, set IP address, run the mailq
# etc.
#
# This script is called with the following arguments:
#Arg Name Example
#$1 Interface name ppp0
#$2 The ttyttyS1
#$3 The link speed 38400
#$4 Local IP number12.34.56.78
#$5 Peer IP number12.34.56.99
PPP_ADDR=`ifconfig ppp0|grep inet|awk -F: '{print $2}'|awk -F '{print
$1}'`
ipfwadm -F -p deny
ipfwadm -I -f
ipfwadm -I -a reject -b -P icmp -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D ${PPP_ADDR}/32
ipfwadm -I -a reject -b -P tcp -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D ${PPP_ADDR}/32 1:1023
ipfwadm -I -a reject -b -P udp -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D ${PPP_ADDR}/32 1:1023
becomes:
ipfwadm -F -p deny
ipfwadm -I -f
ipfwadm -I -a reject -b -P icmp -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D $4/32
ipfwadm -I -a reject -b -P tcp -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D $4/32 1:1023
ipfwadm -I -a reject -b -P udp -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D $4/32 1:1023
craig
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Re: bi (Please stop it)
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Pete Templin wrote:
I agree with Joey's original message: let's let the editor debate rest a
bit, folks, or give it focus and a new thread name.
i disagree. I see two valuable results from the thread:
1. people get to show off neat tricks that they've learnt/figured out
with their favourite editor, whether it be vi or emacs or something
else. This is good because by writing it in a form for other
people to understand they achieve a greater understanding for
themself...teaching others is a great way to learn.
2. people get to see useful features, tips tricks, etc for the editors -
possibly helping them to learn how to use their editor more effectively,
or even helping them to make a choice as to which editor to focus their
learning on.
newbies hear all sorts of claims that 'vi is powerful' and 'emacs
is powerful' - but unless they have the opportunity to see some
examples then they should take these claims with a huge grain of
salt.
isn't the self-education process a big part of what this mailing list
is about?
Both emacs vi are good editors - i personally prefer vi but
acknowledge that emacs has some neat features too (every so often i try
to learn emacs properly but give up because it doesn't give me anything
that vi doesn't give me in less memory and less keystrokes - i have
no use for elisp or gnus in a text editor)
If the thread devolves into '{vi/emacs} is an abomination' then it
becomes useless...but while it remains friendly, helpful rivalry it is
very useful.
craig
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Re: Help with using ISP name for email
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Jason Ish wrote: To fix this I have starting using pine, I start it using sudo as user jbi130 on my home system but these becomes a pain (as far as file permissions) are concerned when add folders and deleting stuff and so on. Is there a better way to go about this. I use fetchmail ro retrieve from Thanks for any help. Jason Ish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jason, I see you've received other replies, but I think it is as simple as setting up pine to send the from: you want. The following is from the section in the config menu for pine which should do what you wish. [ ] use-sender-not-x-sender [ ] use-subshell-for-suspend initial-keystroke-list = No Value Set default-composer-hdrs= No Value Set customized-hdrs = From: Richard Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ If this isn't doing what it should let me know so I can play with my configs a little more too. :-) Richard Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Murphy's Fifth Law: If anything just cannot go wrong, it will anyway. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
master.debian.org???? BIG PROBLEMS??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- What happened? I was downloading bo from frozen on master. It should have taken about 4 - 5 hours. I reduced my terminal and did other things. about 18 pkgs were recv'd when, evidently, the entire Debian directory tree disappeared. I thought it was the program. How could it just disappear? I used three different ftp clients with the same results. There is nothing listed under /pub/Linux/Debian any more. Did you hide the directories for some reason? Is this a, dreaded, file system problem? What happened guys? Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16-Apr-97 Time: 22:45:20 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM1WOwAi+Ph+i3TgpAQFo4gQAxA+B9HR8DCc/dgdDbg+qk81KmtecL0VA Mrj14l10gOUj1FGiHA0HM2+QRslEyUEThi698KFOV7nc3MyYMoETzujqL+kQM/iB tMz0Wohedk9t5ElXcasiN5RcjUxHynGtGT96OfojcHUaEjD83w4zEdk3k8ZkdpBb hqxFUtF6owU= =eeKY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: master.debian.org???? BIG PROBLEMS??
I was downloading bo from frozen on master. It should have taken about 4 - 5 hours. I reduced my terminal and did other things. about 18 pkgs were recv'd when, evidently, the entire Debian directory tree disappeared. I just checked... master:8 - ~/Debian/frozen/binary find . -type f | wc 817 817 22230 Everything seems to be okay. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: master.debian.org???? BIG PROBLEMS??
On Apr 16, Rick wrote There is nothing listed under /pub/Linux/Debian any more. Did you hide the directories for some reason? Is this a, dreaded, file system problem? What happened guys? This sounds like a ftp daemon problem on master. The files are still there when I log in to master. Mike: wouldn't it be a good idea to make ftpd print out a please report any problems with this server to [EMAIL PROTECTED] blurb? That way problems with the ftp server would mailed to your private mailbox (faster response time) instead of being posted on debian-user. snip [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~/debian] ftp ftp open localhost Connected to localhost.i-Connect.Net. 220 master.debian.org FTP server (Version wu-2.4(7) Thu Aug 1 02:34:14 MET DST 1996) ready. Name (localhost:chrish): anonymous 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. Password: 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp cd /pub/Linux/Debian 250 CWD command successful. ftp ls 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. total 0 226 Transfer complete. pgpyMi0Nig2C7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: master.debian.org???? BIG PROBLEMS??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I just checked again. It's not there. I get all the other directories but nothing under Debian. I just got a msg from Christian saying it may be an ftpd error. What did you use to check this? On 17-Apr-97 Brian C. White wrote: I was downloading bo from frozen on master. It should have taken about 4 - - 5 hours. I reduced my terminal and did other things. about 18 pkgs were recv'd when, evidently, the entire Debian directory tree disappeared. I just checked... master:8 - ~/Debian/frozen/binary find . -type f | wc 817 817 22230 Everything seems to be okay. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) - - -- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16-Apr-97 Time: 23:18:38 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM1WWjgi+Ph+i3TgpAQFqrAP/aRCG0g+PtPvMYhk3i0tcQNdkCjzqoLxk +0JeUpPTOnxC5hTVZ6V0IhG39RFkzmcGzbwnhWSF+kgGfUPV0K2xj/1p1P5JKmKd ZNAavzgDUObXD/dB1Zwm/EawVj9woMx9eo+CdDhr/TKL6F2rwYZrlTSpfPzj8CTo n2rOEn5yxRU= =1JOb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: master.debian.org???? BIG PROBLEMS??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Thanks. I thought I was going nuts. On 17-Apr-97 Christian Hudon wrote: On Apr 16, Rick wrote There is nothing listed under /pub/Linux/Debian any more. Did you hide the directories for some reason? Is this a, dreaded, file system problem? What happened guys? This sounds like a ftp daemon problem on master. The files are still there when I log in to master. Mike: wouldn't it be a good idea to make ftpd print out a please report any problems with this server to [EMAIL PROTECTED] blurb? That way problems with the ftp server would mailed to your private mailbox (faster response time) instead of being posted on debian-user. snip [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~/debian] ftp ftp open localhost Connected to localhost.i-Connect.Net. 220 master.debian.org FTP server (Version wu-2.4(7) Thu Aug 1 02:34:14 MET DST 1996) ready. Name (localhost:chrish): anonymous 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. Password: 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp cd /pub/Linux/Debian 250 CWD command successful. ftp ls 200 PORT command successful. 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls. total 0 226 Transfer complete. Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 16-Apr-97 Time: 23:21:28 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM1WXOAi+Ph+i3TgpAQHHEAQAqj2HErcjc8f70kSifd7QmnlHOSfOg+X+ /X50+BvRLaLbGrzTTLtQjsy8ZYVpDEPU6DxWntJAUmRAAVnsrNUAlCzClS9zFsFq 9N4RFW5LtaYbSdSVYhdW5XJehHY1RIe7WIntdzoLYUoycMLr6PYW0c1ckK09cOmG L75ulcXNICs= =kf/N -END PGP SIGNATURE- pgptwjY5EcfIw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Trouble installing PCMCIA.
Summary: Have base packages installed. Need to install pcmcia packages so that ethernet card can be used for the remaining packages. Can't get pcmcia packages to install. Background: I'm trying to install Debian on a Compaq Aero 4/33. I can get the base installion just fine (version 1.2.9). I would like to install the rest of the packages over ethernet, but I need to get the pcmcia services working. I have an IBM cardit card ethernet adaptor. Problem: When I try to install the pcmcia-modules-2.0.27 package (the kernel that came with the base was 2.0.27), it says I don't have the kernel-image-2.0.27 package installed. Well, as I understand it, that package was supposed to be included with the base. But nevertheless I tried installing the kernel-image package manually. This allowed me to install the pcmcia-modules pcmcia-cs packages, but when I reboot, it give me errors like bad symbol in table and messages saying the module doesn't match the kernel version. It scrolls by too fast for me to catch it all. Are these bootup messages logged somewhere? I am used to slackware and haven't found my way completely around debian yet. Thanks, Rajpaul - Rajpaul - Abilene Christian University - Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACM @ ACU home page: http://babel.acu.edu -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Do teTeX packages work well?
I notice there are several teTeX packages available. Have many people tried them? Are there any problems with the packages or are they stable enough for me to install them and be confident things are going to work properly? Is the teTeX distribution complete, or is it missing a few things? Thanks for your help. Mark. - Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them! - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DEITY TEAM -- one comment
François Gouget writes: robert havoc pennington wrote: When I first installed debian I selected more packages than would fit on the disk, and so I ended up with tons of broken packages and had to install again. dselect recovered nicely (something other distributions don't do) but since each package has a predictable size it seems dselect could have predicted the problem, which would have been even nicer. [...] Unfortunately in some cases it is not so simple to check for space availability as /var may be on one partition, /usr on another and /lib yet somewhere else. Yet for most newbie installations it should be no problem (just one partition anyway), those that made up many partitions probably already know what the space requirements will be. Otherwise how did they decide on the partition sizes ! Yes, it may not be foolproof, but it would be useful to be able to give a grand total. For someone just starting who has maybe partitioned but not loaded yet they could at least see if their partition is big enough before they start (rather than doing an install and then find they have to go back to the vey beginning). (I'm thinking here of someone who has started from DOS, used fips (? I think) to reclaim space from their DOS partiion and created a Linux one.) Now, if it could also give totals by the first filename of the path, I mean like /var 2,134 K /usr 203,837 K / 12,232 K this would be useful for people who are looking at having multiple filesystems -- a separate one for /usr for example. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
General help needed ! Linux
Please help me to get started !!! I am new to Linux and basic help will br greatly appreciated. I know already ls, pwd, cd, edit. But how to read floppy or change current drive to floppy (dos's cd a: command) how to go to cd-rom, how to distinguish executable files out of regular ones, somebody told me befor but i forgot it ( something like alias ls=...) and how to make it permanent. How to take out all that stuff what comming durring boot up prosses, I don't have so many hardware what linux is showing Any thing Thank you very much [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Do teTeX packages work well?
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Mark Phillips wrote: I notice there are several teTeX packages available. Have many people tried them? Are there any problems with the packages or are they stable enough for me to install them and be confident things are going to work properly? While installing it is a little bit hard to remove the remainder of the older installed TeX packages. (I had to edit some removal script of the old packages but it was no problem in the end.) TeTeX works very good and I'm very happy about the change to TeTeX. Is the teTeX distribution complete, or is it missing a few things? Nothing is missing. Thanks for the developers to include TeTeX into Debian. Andreas. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: vi
Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow, you guys sure think fast :) But I know where you are coming from. I am a pretty speedy typist and have often been annoyed by odd keys. Now I am wondering: is there an easy way with emacs or some other editor to assign a short string to a 'wierd key'? I hate parenthesies for example (I can't even speell them). It would be nice if I could just type pn and have it immediately subbed out for the char (. cn could close it. Anything out there that lets you set things like this? Parentheses really are your friend : , but you can get the effect you want a number of different ways in emacs. The best is probably to investigate abbrev-mode which makes emacs auto-substitute something you type for something else as soon as you type the last character. Another trick that many emacs/lisp programmers use is to switch the parens and brackets on their keyboards so you don't have to reach or hit shift to get to them... Finally, not that you'd want to do this, but this would make f5 be open paren. (defun open-paren () (interactive nil) (insert ()) (global-set-key [f5] 'open-paren) I'm sure there are even better ways to do this... -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Emacs keys differences between console and X
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Rick wrote: Activating meta in X is in the XF86Config file. Here is an extract from my /etc/X11/XF86config: # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: LeftAlt Meta # this line was commented out before #RightAltModeShift #RightCtlCompose #ScrollLock ModeLock I deleted the `#` before LeftAlt Meta according to the hint of Rick but it didn't help. The answer to Alt-x is only `beep` end I have to type ESC x anyway. By the way: what do I have to read to learn more about the purpose of `ModeShift`, `Compose` and `ModeLock`? Thanks to Rick, but are there any mor hints Andreas. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Trouble installing PCMCIA.
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Rajpaul Bagga wrote: Summary: Have base packages installed. Need to install pcmcia packages so that ethernet card can be used for the remaining packages. Can't get pcmcia packages to install. Background: I'm trying to install Debian on a Compaq Aero 4/33. I can get the base installion just fine (version 1.2.9). I would like to install the rest of the packages over ethernet, but I need to get the pcmcia services working. I have an IBM cardit card ethernet adaptor. Problem: When I try to install the pcmcia-modules-2.0.27 package (the kernel that came with the base was 2.0.27), it says I don't have the kernel-image-2.0.27 package installed. Well, as I understand it, that package was supposed to be included with the base. But nevertheless I tried installing the kernel-image package manually. This allowed me to install the pcmcia-modules pcmcia-cs packages, but when I reboot, it give me errors like bad symbol in table and messages saying the module doesn't match the kernel version. It scrolls by too fast for me to catch it all. Are these bootup messages logged somewhere? I am used to slackware and haven't found my way completely around debian yet. Just use the 'dmesg' command and you'll see the boot messages. The messages also show up in your log under /var/log In regards to fixing your module problem...It's been a while since I did an install but I recall that the modules.tgz on the device driver disk included pcmcia modules in it and that the modules on that disk worked with the install/rescue kernel. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Perry -- If red tape were nutritious, we could feed the world. Perry Piplanihttp://perrypip.netservers.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netservers.com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Matrox Millenium with Sony Multiscan 300sf
Hi, I just downloaded Debian but wasn't able to correctly configure the X server. Does anybody have a working XF86Config for a Matrox Millenium 4 MB PCI with a Sony Multiscan 300sf ? Thanks, Markus Diesmann -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Getting X to run with a Tseng ET6000
Has anyone had any success getting this to run with the svga server in Xfree86 3.2A ?? I tried it, but it puked on me, gave me a screen full of garbage. when i ctrl alt bkspace to kill the server, I seem to lose all signal from the card, because my monitor goes into powersaving mode. I was then forced to reboot. Any suggestions on making this work?? joe | joseph robert palicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] |.|--| .| [_] [] \ / http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/palicke Thou shalt not commit adulthood -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Do teTeX packages work well?
On Apr 17, Mark Phillips wrote I notice there are several teTeX packages available. Have many people tried them? Are there any problems with the packages or are they stable enough for me to install them and be confident things are going to work properly? Is the teTeX distribution complete, or is it missing a few things? At home I have my own teTeX installation but in the office I use the Debian teTeX and i only can say: It works fine. Regards, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: master.debian.org???? BIG PROBLEMS??
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Christian Hudon wrote: On Apr 16, Rick wrote There is nothing listed under /pub/Linux/Debian any more. Did you hide the directories for some reason? Is this a, dreaded, file system problem? What happened guys? This sounds like a ftp daemon problem on master. The files are still there when I log in to master. No, we were asked not to mount it there anymore. It is now available again. Mike Michael Neuffer i-Connect.Net, a Division of iConnect Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED]14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 140 Beaverton, OR 97005 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape/Lynx long startup time - why?
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Geoff R Deasey wrote: If you type ping -c 5 www.microsoft.com how long does it take before you see the first line ? This almost sounds like a DNS timeout. Here is the output: bridge:~ ! ping -c 5 www.microsoft.com PING www.microsoft.com (207.68.137.59): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 207.68.137.59: icmp_seq=0 ttl=49 time=214.8 ms 64 bytes from 207.68.137.59: icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=213.0 ms 64 bytes from 207.68.137.59: icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=218.7 ms 64 bytes from 207.68.137.59: icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=207.3 ms 64 bytes from 207.68.137.59: icmp_seq=4 ttl=49 time=207.4 ms --- www.microsoft.com ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 207.3/212.2/218.7 ms bridge:~ ! Just for comparison the central communication host of our university: bridge:~ ! ping -c 5 mlucom PING mlucom.urz.uni-halle.de (141.48.3.3): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 141.48.3.3: icmp_seq=0 ttl=251 time=5.6 ms 64 bytes from 141.48.3.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=251 time=5.5 ms 64 bytes from 141.48.3.3: icmp_seq=2 ttl=251 time=6.0 ms 64 bytes from 141.48.3.3: icmp_seq=3 ttl=251 time=5.8 ms 64 bytes from 141.48.3.3: icmp_seq=4 ttl=251 time=13.6 ms --- mlucom.urz.uni-halle.de ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 5.5/7.3/13.6 ms bridge:~ ! I don't know what times to expect. But why have lynx to look at www.microsoft.com (or any other host for instance). How to avoid looking at hosts which are situated oversea? Andreas. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Emacs keys differences between console and X
Ok. Try reading the man page XF86Config. It explains those settings. If you run xf86config (note the syntax) it will configure this file asking questions. It will also ask if you want to map the meta key etc... I don't use the meta key otherwise I could tell you more. On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Rick wrote: Activating meta in X is in the XF86Config file. Here is an extract from my /etc/X11/XF86config: # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: LeftAlt Meta # this line was commented out before #RightAltModeShift #RightCtlCompose #ScrollLock ModeLock I deleted the `#` before LeftAlt Meta according to the hint of Rick but it didn't help. The answer to Alt-x is only `beep` end I have to type ESC x anyway. By the way: what do I have to read to learn more about the purpose of `ModeShift`, `Compose` and `ModeLock`? Thanks to Rick, but are there any mor hints Andreas. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: General help needed ! Linux
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, val.tamarov wrote: Please help me to get started !!! I am new to Linux and basic help will br greatly appreciated. I know already ls, pwd, cd, edit. But how to read floppy or change current drive to floppy (dos's cd a: command) You have to either mount the floppy under a dir, such as floppy, or use mdir for dos floppies. You have to mount CD's. Best advise is read the man page (manual page) on mount. To read a man page type man subject. i.e. man mount It may be a good idea to do man man to read up on using the man command since you may need to specify args to get the right page. how to go to cd-rom, how to distinguish executable files out of regular ones, somebody told me befor but i forgot it ( something like alias ls=...) and how to make it permanent. How to take out all that stuff Anything you want permanent you have to put in your shell's profile file. Default is bash so in your home dir there should be a file named .bash_profile The easiest ay to distinguish between file types is to use colordir's In the bash profile add dir='ls -a --color'. The -a will make sure you are shown all files, including hidden files. There are many args to use for the ls command. It's best to read the man page on ls to set them the way you want them. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bi
[ I do not like this kind of discussion but I thing some things could be helpful to some people. Indeed, I have been using emacs for a long long time and I started to read this trhead because I would like to learn some things about vi. Perhaps I will stop writing in this thread. ] Vadim Vygonets [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Emacs is powerful, but in vi the work is faster not only because the editor is faster, but also because you don't have to move your fingers off the letters. Neither do I. Even in X, I almost do not use the mouse. Indeed, inside a console or inside an xterm (emacs -nw) I could only use the mouse if I have done some non-standard configuration. Just don't use the mouse if you prefer. You can do everything without the mouse. I like [x]jed too. Indeed I use jedfor small editions. Besides, my .emacs, site-start.el and default.el load many many things and takes some seconds to start. Mine too. cc-mode, font-lock, etc... I use auto-load for almost everything. Font-lock is loaded the first time I use a mode with Font-lock capabilities. I think font-lock (and I use colors here) increases the readability. Get fvwm-mode (from fvwm-mode.el somewhere) for instance. IMHO, it is much more simple to edit fvwm configuration files using this mode. I think this mode was also helpfull when I was configuring apache since the configuration files syntax are not so different. BTW, use lazy-lock if you are concerned about font-lock CPU consuming. So? I use pine, and emacs as the alternative editor. I use pine sometimes too. Sometimes I just use mail. I usually use Gnus inside emacs for reading and writing news and mail. I like to be able to score messages according to the subject, for instance. Those people who would not like to read this thread, for instance, could just underscore this thread. I can also score messages according to the author or according to strings present in the subject field. Well, I use emacs for mail and programming, and vi for configs and patches. Sometimes I use ed. If I have not started an emacs and I wanna do small edition I usually prefer an other editor too. Sometimes jed. Sometimes others. Emacs is good to be loaded all the time. Perhaps in my swap, if I am not using it. Well, both vi and emacs have its own purposes. I agree with you. I don't like incremental search because it's slow. I sincerely disagree here. I sincerely do not see how typing 'monitor' and ENTER in a search field can be faster than typing just 'mon' when I am looking for the section monitor in my /etc/X11/XF86Config. On my good ol' 486 I have just tested in an 8M 486 DX2/66 and incremental search was faster than I could type. And I tried to be fast. I used emacs only when I needed something really big. I used to do my LaTeX edition in my old 8M 386 DX/40 box using GNU Emacs with font-lock-mode. My file was 200Kbytes large. Sometimes, I was doing that with latex running in background... Now I have a Pentium 133, but I'm too used to vi to forget it :) Vadik. -- Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal, Fall 1990. -- Alair Pereira do Lago [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ime.usp.br/~alair Computer Science Department -- Universidade de S~ao Paulo -- Brazil -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Do teTeX packages work well?
Andreas Tille writes: On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Mark Phillips wrote: I notice there are several teTeX packages available. Have many people tried them? Are there any problems with the packages or are they stable enough for me to install them and be confident things are going to work properly? While installing it is a little bit hard to remove the remainder of the older installed TeX packages. (I had to edit some removal script of the old packages but it was no problem in the end.) TeTeX works very good and I'm very happy about the change to TeTeX. Is the teTeX distribution complete, or is it missing a few things? Nothing is missing. Thanks for the developers to include TeTeX into Debian. Has anyone else tried NTeX at all? I have that installed here; I chose it because it comes with more documentation than teTeX did. The installer is Debian compatible; it even provides the right packages for things that depend on them. I'm a LaTeX newbie, so cannot make a very good judgement about which distribution works better. The main thing I noticed was that NTeX seemed to have a lot more documentation along with it than teTeX. I've got Knuth's TeXbook in TeX now; that comes with NTeX, along with some other books in markup form. -- Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.30t You tell me and we'll both know. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: General help needed ! Linux
val.tamarov writes: Please help me to get started !!! I am new to Linux and basic help will br greatly appreciated. I know already ls, pwd, cd, edit. But how to read floppy or change current drive to floppy (dos's cd a: command) how to go to cd-rom, how to distinguish executable files out of regular ones, somebody told me befor but i forgot it ( something like alias ls=...) and how to make it permanent. How to take out all that stuff what comming durring boot up prosses, I don't have so many hardware what linux is showing Any thing Thank you very much [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you have WWW access? If you do, go to YaHoo, and look up Linux. Search there for documentation about it. Another thing to do is look on your system under /usr/doc/ and see if there is a FAQ and HOWTO directory there. Reading that stuff will teach you a lot more than I can type in a minute or two. :-) To start out, you can view a file with `less filename`. Do `cd /usr/doc`, and then `ls | less` and see what's there. I would highly recommend installing Midnight Commander, (`mc`) which gives you a 'norton commander' like interface. With that, you can browse your filesystem, and view files. It's a really great way to read the HOWTO's and FAQ's, and it formats man pages really nicely too; so you can browse in the man directories with it. You can find `mc` on the Debian ftp sites. :-) -- Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.30t You tell me and we'll both know. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Do teTeX packages work well?
On Apr 17, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote Has anyone else tried NTeX at all? I have that installed here; I chose it because it comes with more documentation than teTeX did. The installer is Debian compatible; it even provides the right packages for things that depend on them. AFAIR Debian came with NTeX before. I seem to remember that there were several problems with it. Now it comes with teTeX which is a better maintainet package. I have used teTeX some years before it was packaged with Debian and it just worked. Before that I have used NTeX and it was a pain. Anyway there should be sufficient documentation about LaTeX across the net. I just re-read the german lkurz alias LaTeX2e-Kurzbeschreibung. I'm sure that a similiar english document does exist, too. There are some resources which use the advantages of www. At the moment I'm not sure if it is a german or an english documentation, but you might try http://escher.north.de/~soenke/ for a LaTeX cookbook. There's also a german server called ftp.dante.de which is maintained by the german (La)TeX association. It is full of TeX related stuff - documentation, too. Regards, Joey -- Individual Network e.V._/OrgaTech KG i.Gr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Geschaeftszeit: Di+Mi+Fr, 15-18 Uhr _/Tel: (0441) 9808556 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Ping o' Death is killing pppd on my router.....
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Craig Sanders wrote:
why not just use the arguments passed to /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down} by pppd?
Sure, I could do that, but suppose pppd changes the order in which it
passes parameters with the next pppd upgrade... I'll still be running, if
I used $4, and didn't know about the change, I'd be dead.
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Re: Do teTeX packages work well?
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: Has anyone else tried NTeX at all? I have that installed here; I chose it because it comes with more documentation than teTeX did. The installer is Debian compatible; it even provides the right packages for things that depend on them. I'm a LaTeX newbie, so cannot make a very good judgement about which distribution works better. The main thing I noticed was that NTeX seemed to have a lot more documentation along with it than teTeX. I've got Knuth's TeXbook in TeX now; that comes with NTeX, along with some other books in markup form. I've seen a NTeX version comming with SlackWare one year ago. Hmm, lots of fonts, lots of documentation but useless in my opinion. (I never had the feeling to write like the Klingons and why should I read the documentation for that stuff.) By the way SlackWare switched to TeTeX, too. I think that's a sign if such a distribution does a change. This shouldn't be a flame against NTeX, but I know many users of TeTeX and NO user of NTeX. If you miss any documentation try a CTAN-mirror for instance ftp.dante.de There is nothing important in the world of TeX which you would not find there. Hope this helps Andreas. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Emacs keys differences between console and X
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Andreas Tille wrote: Here is an extract from my /etc/X11/XF86config: # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: LeftAlt Meta # this line was commented out before #RightAltModeShift #RightCtlCompose #ScrollLock ModeLock I deleted the `#` before LeftAlt Meta according to the hint of Rick but it didn't help. The answer to Alt-x is only `beep` end I have to type ESC x anyway. By the way: what do I have to read to learn more about the purpose of `ModeShift`, `Compose` and `ModeLock`? Thanks to Rick, but are there any mor hints I had a problem like this, and I think the main thing I had to do to get the behaviour I wanted was to uncomment XkbDisable in my /etc/X11/XF86Config. (I had guessed wrong when the setup had asked about xkb...) -- David Pfitzner -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bi
On 17 Apr 1997, Alair Pereira do Lago wrote: Neither do I. Even in X, I almost do not use the mouse. Indeed, inside a console or inside an xterm (emacs -nw) I could only use the mouse if I have done some non-standard configuration. Just don't use the mouse if you prefer. You can do everything without the mouse. I wasn't talking about the mouse (I use it mostly to travel; between X windows), I was talking about all the Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift and arrows... Get fvwm-mode (from fvwm-mode.el somewhere) for instance. IMHO, it is much more simple to edit fvwm configuration files using this mode. I think this mode was also helpfull when I was configuring apache since the configuration files syntax are not so different. BTW, use lazy-lock if you are concerned about font-lock CPU consuming. I'm not using fvwm. I use font-lock for C. Yes, it does increase readability. Both vi and emacs are good for programming, because programmers are the ones who write editors :) Well, I don't think ed is good for programming, but sometimes you just have to use it. I usually use Gnus inside emacs for reading and writing news and mail. I hate using emacs as something but an editor. I can also score messages according to the author or according to strings present in the subject field. I think other mailers / newsreaders can do it too... Emacs is good to be loadedall the time. Perhaps in my swap, if I am not using it. Well, that's right. Emacs seems to be designed to run from .xsession and to stay somewhere on the background until you logout. The only thing it can't do is to be a window manager ;) I don't like incremental search because it's slow. I sincerely disagree here. I sincerely do not see how typing 'monitor' and ENTER in a search field can be faster than typing just 'mon' when I am looking for the section monitor in my /etc/X11/XF86Config. Well, it's slow because it takes resources. When you type m, it finds something like XConsortium, when you type o, it finds modify, and it searches all the time... Give your processor a brk! I have just tested in an 8M 486 DX2/66 and incremental search was faster thanI could type. And I tried to be fast. Well, I didn't say it's _so_ slow, I just said it's heavy. Use ed! As long as you don't know teco. Vadik. -- Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal, Fall 1990. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: WINE
Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has wine been pkged for deb? If so where can I find it? Have a good one. You can find a really old version of wine in project/experimental. I have a newer version compiled on my machine and will be uploading a new package before the release of 1.3. You can always debianize a new version yourself. Get the .diff.gz file in the source, apply the patch to a new version of wine, and run debian/rules binary Perhaps you should do some small edition like in debian/changelog. -- Alair Pereira do Lago [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ime.usp.br/~alair Computer Science Department -- Universidade de S~ao Paulo -- Brazil -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DEITY TEAM -- one comment
Francois Gouget writes: Unfortunately in some cases it is not so simple to check for space availability as /var may be on one partition, /usr on another and /lib yet somewhere else. Should be doable. df to get all the partitions and their capacities, df /var, df /usr, etc to get the filesystems containing these directories, and a script to sort it all out. Does this mean that each package will have to list the space it requires in every directory and the packaging software will figure out if each of those directories is on a separate partition? I have seen a user that had separate /var, /usr/lib, and /home partitions. Please figure out how much space to report for postgres and how it will be reported. I think figuring out how much space is required for the installation may be more difficult than just doing 'df' on each partition and sorting it all out. -- Lamar Folsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~fols9488 Life is wasted on the living. - The Master -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bi (Please stop it)
The issue relevant to this group is: what editor should someone expect to find on a system's boot/rescue disk? That someone presumably being a person with enough unix experience to recover from the usual problems that can make your machine fail to boot. The lastthing you need at that point (especially if this is a server for many people) is a surprise from the editor or to have to learn a new one. What I'm saying is: Ok, emacs is great, we all (well, almost all) use it, I use it too. But if you have your system on the knees, and you have enough Unix experience to know how to get it up, you surely know vi, and most chances are that you also know ed. Emacs surely doesn't belong to base, and at least one of ed or (I'm not saying xor!) vi surely does. ae is good for newbies, but have you ever seen a newbie recovering your system? BTW, I work as a sysadmin, and I learned a little of ed just because I knew that it's better to learn it before you need it. Vadik, who uses ed when he can't get his beloved vi. -- Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin If you think C++ is not overly complicated, just what is a protected abstract virtual base pure virtual private destructor, and when was the last time you needed one? -- Tom Cargil, C++ Journal, Fall 1990. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: General help needed ! Linux
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, val.tamarov wrote: Please help me to get started !!! I am new to Linux and basic help will br greatly appreciated. I know already ls, pwd, cd, edit. But how to read floppy or change current drive to floppy (dos's cd a: command) To begin, there's nothing like a good reference book. I would recommend Running Linux by Matt Welsh and Lar Kaufman. If you don't want to buy a book, look at sunsite.unc.edu for the LDP archives. Look at the various HOWTOs as well. In brief, you need to mount a drive in order to see it. When you do this, you essentially link it to a directory on your main drive. Look at 'man mount' for help with this. To have it always mounted (not a good idea with a floppy, as you will need to change it occasionally), make entried in /etc/fstab. how to go to cd-rom, how to distinguish executable files out of regular ones, somebody told me befor but i forgot it ( something like alias ls=...) and how to make it permanent. How to take out all that stuff what comming durring boot up prosses, I don't have so many hardware what linux is showing Treat the cdrom the same as any other drive with the mount command, as above. To slim down the probing for nonexistent devices, you can recompile the kernel to remove support for anything you don't have. See the Kernel-HOWTO for more information on this. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Mounting a floppy
What would be the best way to mount a floppy drive and have it readable and/or writable by ONLY 2 users ? I notice that after I mount the floppy I can't change the mode to have it readable by a group. I'm probably doing something wrong, or not understanding something.. Thanks, Matthew -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: master.debian.org???? BIG PROBLEMS??
I just checked again. It's not there. I get all the other directories but nothing under Debian. I just got a msg from Christian saying it may be an ftpd error. What did you use to check this? I logged on to master directly and checked. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- You can never be too good looking or too well equipped. -- Dilbert -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Do teTeX packages work well?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Schulze) writes: Anyway there should be sufficient documentation about LaTeX across the net. I just re-read the german lkurz alias LaTeX2e-Kurzbeschreibung. I'm sure that a similiar english document does exist, too. Actually Joerg Knappens LaTeX2e-Kurzbeschreibung l2kurz.dvi is based on l2short.dvi by Tobias Oetiker et al. The wonderful thing about teTeX is that it comes along with lots of documentation. You can find the aformentioned documents and some more in your texmf hierarchy under doc/latex/general/. I don't know the exact place in a Debian setup because i prefer to maintain my own TeTeX installation under /usr/local/. That way i can upgrade my teTeX by using Thomas Esser's fine update sharfiles without compromising the Debian package management. I'm probably an idiot for not using Christoph Martin's really great prepackaged Debian version of teTeX. ;-) Regards, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bi -- should have been: vi vs emacs
On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Vadim Vygonets wrote: [ a bunch of correct things about emacs and vi] An anecdote regarding vi and emacs use: We had a whole department who were using vi under System V.2 on 3b2/400s back in the middle 80s. I installed microEmacs (whatever was current at the time). By the middle of the next month there was not a single faculty member and few students who were still using vi. MicroEmacs commands are similar in flavor to (big) emacs. Once we had a decent Linux system running, everyone used (big) emacs. The only reversions to vi were folk who had already leared vi somewhere else and were committed to it. I know both vi and emacs fairly well, and *much* prefer emacs' damned peculiarities to vi's equally damned pecularities. So much for vi being in any sense a casual user's editor. This is a religeous war, and I apologise for continuing the discussion. --David emacs, the one true editor! vi, because it takes too much time to type emacs! - LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [345]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | User interface copyrights software patents make [EMAIL PROTECTED] | programing a dangerous business. Ask me or [EMAIL PROTECTED] spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NFS and debian packaging system
Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Portuesi Simone wrote: I've to install debian linux in 4 PCs here at the university (now they have an old slackware). My idea was to have one of them to export users and their directories plus a directory with apps not in the debian distribution (a sort of non-local). Up to here no problems arise. But I'd like also to share man pages, info files and documentation across the 4 systems but that will break the packaging handling of Debian (ex. removing a package in one PC will remouve all the documentation and help on the others), is there a work-around? In particular is there a way to inform the debian packaging system of shared files ? I maintain a Debian system with a workstation as NFS server. That means the /usr tree resides on a drive mounted via NFS (ro) and some parts of var resides also there. I linked /var/texmf and /var/catman on a NFS mounted drive (rw). This works fine for me and I'm intended to use this server from several other Linux PCs (but not tried yet). I have to mention that I had serious trouble while installing and if you have problems don't hesitate to ask me special problems. But once installed (using some tricky workarounds) it works fine (but slightly slower). The problem is that I would like to reduce workarounds as much as possible as I'me not the only one to administrate it. Probably the best solution is to un-mount the shared partitions when removing packages, but: I don't know how dpkg and dselect are going to react to this. When installing poackages unmounting is not strictly neccesaire, but it'll be safe to unmount it and the compare the files installed withe the new ones. Anyway the shared parts are not in anyway vital (documantation, mans and info) Also is there a method to install part of a Debian package in a different directory? (I think the only one is to modify packages by hand). That's not necessary in any way. The only thing is to link some files in /etc to a common tree but I think this is not necessary and too much work. Even if it is complex it would be nice if future versions of Debian would permit such kind of installation or have tools to permit it. It was just a proposal. Having such feature will make this kind of installation simpler. Thus making all the debian installation more flexible. OK, tell me your problem. I think you will cope with them with the actual version. Yep, I think I can, I just wanted to make installation as clean as possible as University installation with many people administrating or working at root level (S.O. and network) experimenting tend to enhance over time all the initial installation flaws, thats why we chose debian (as well with others considarations), it's packaging system permits to renew and maintain installations at lower risks. Andreas. Thanks , Simone Portuesi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Multilink PPP vs. EQL
After burrowing around some, I finally found some info and docs on EQL; however, Multilink PPP is mentioned as a newer, and improved alternative. However, I can't find any info on Multilink PPP in any of the HowTo's, etc. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Or, is it not yet available on the Linux platform? TIA, Kevin Traas Systems Analyst Edmondson Roper CA http://www.eroper.bc.ca -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
at doesn't nice its jobs
A previous version of at started its at-jobs with a nice of 2 and its batch-jobs with a nice of 4. The latest doesn't nice at-jobs at all and only has a nice of 1 on batch-jobs. I quite liked having these jobs put somewhat in the background. Could this be reinstated? Also, batch jobs are now started as long as the load is under 1.5 instead of the previous value of 0.5. I couldn't find anything in the documentation to explain why. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.01. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: routing setup question
Craig Sanders wrote: On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: [ all my config info deleted ] The only problem with this is that neither machine will be able to communicate directly with other machines on the 193.135.252/24 network - with a netmask of 255.255.255.0 they will expect the entire 193.135.252 network to be on the local ethernet. This is true. This could be a big problem if, for example, you need to communicate directly with other customers of your ISP who use the same class C or even worse if your ISP's news or www or www-proxy machines are on the same class C. NOTE: your network configuration would be **much** simpler if your ISP would give you a small subnet rather than just two random ip addresses. Ask your ISP to do this for you. If your ISP can't or won't, then the only way i can think of at the moment for getting the routing (almost) correct is to set up both machines so that two small /30 subnets of 193.135.252 are routed via the ethernet, and everything else is routed via the default gateway (firefranc's def gw is icemark, icemark's def gw is the ppp interface). Even this isn't perfect because there will be two subnets which your machines wont be able to communicate with. Alternatively, just use private 192.168.1.x addresses for the ethernet and set up icemark to do IP masquerdading and transparent proxying. There are very few limitations on what can be done with masquerading these days, so this is probably the best (least messy!) solution for you. I agree with everything here *except* for the assertion that using IP masquerading and transparent proxying are the best or least messy solution. The issue you're not addressing at all is that proxy solutions work only for *outgoing* connections--that is, connections which would be initiated by firefranc. What if Benedikt needs two hosts connected because he intends to run DNS and has to have a primary and secondary server in order to register his own domains? This *would* *not* *work* using IP masq or transparent proxying. And let's be realistic here. Do you think you could go to your ISP and say 'Hey, I'd like a subnet please. I've got two hosts and I need my own subnet so please give up 4 IP address from the 253 (yes 253, 0 255 can't be used) available just because I want them.' They'll say 'Sure, let me just ask my manager how much we'll have to charge you for that privilege.' I think the possibility that Benedikt will not be able to reach a few people who use his same ISP is probably the least of his concerns. That said, looking at a DNS dump from thenet.ch, if hostnames are any indication of allocated addresses, it would appear that only 27 addresses within 193.135.252 are currently used, so they could do this without much pain. I appreciate your efforts, Craig, to try to point out all the factors here which should go into a determination of what Benedikt should do. There are many ways to skin this cat. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: portmapper problems
I bet your problem is that one of that package that you installed killed your /etc/inetd.conf file. At least that's what happened to me last week. I never did figure out who did it. Check to see if it's there. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Is there a ncftp package?
Hi, is there a package of the FTP client ncftp? The one that comes standard with Debian isn't as nice as ncftp. Thanks, E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9431645 Cel.: +58-16-234700 Where does this path lead? said Alice Depends on where you want to go. Said the cat (Alice in Wonderland, by Lewis Carroll.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there a ncftp package?
Eloy A. Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is there a package of the FTP client ncftp? The one that comes standard with Debian isn't as nice as ncftp. Check in non-free. It's there. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
DEITY TEAM -- Response to call for comments
I will try to address your call for comments, though it will be a matter of several responses, and not one. My machine is minute (though I hope to replace it fairly soon). I have been running a Debian system for well over a year. All my maintainance has been done using FTP to get the packages. My experience with the Debian system has led to the impression that the developers must all have terabytes of storage at their disposal---I do not, and I have found myself up against the ceiling consistently ,for example for the past several months. I do have a fairly substantial (in my terms) swap partition. Maybe I have missed the point, but I would really like to be able to install a package without having the package file left on the system to deal with. Would it be possible to build an option into the package tool to install from FTP without saving the package? Somewhere between an NFS mount and dftp, which has to get the files first. Another thing that would help would be to HAVE ALL FILES IN /var/lib/dpkg/info IN GZIPED FORMAT. My little system now has 893KB in that directory, and I have gziped almost all the postinst scripts by hand. I haven't mentioned the over 700,000 bytes in the Packages file. Maybe a bit excessive on a system with a 200MB hard disk. Why not gzip this too? This is beyond the scope of your request and your work, but I might mention that perhaps a year ago there was a thread on this mailing list, with vehement arguements both for and against gziped man pages. One of the arguments against it was the time it takes to unzip a file when reading a manpage. Now, I laugh at that argument---when I call for a man page, on my 486SX-33 notebook, the greater part of the time of getting the man page displayed is not in formatting it, or ungziping it, but maintainance of the database---it can 30 seconds to update the database. What was that to do? Slackware was a lot faster, using all catman pages. SURELY there is a faster man utility. Is there an alternate manpage facility that is any faster? Debian has recently evolved toware fragmentation of single packages into many has left me confused. What does it take just to know what packages are needed? Some way is needed to keep track of which packages are needed for a single package install. Maybe the package info headers are not informative enough. I don't use dselect. Perhaps things are getting better. It is really nice to be able to install a working package without hassle, and to have the configuration well organized by a good package developer---I might mention smail. I applaud the suggestion to handle the configuration scripts in a consistent way, but if this gets too complicated, it will probably add to complexity. I would also like to see more meaty documentation on some of the packages, along with some possibility of getting information about the configuration. I don't think this is so far from actuality, though, as many package developers have provided this in README.debian files, etc. Perhaps more encouragement of good practices will be enough. Debianized source code confuses me. I have not been able to make sense of debianized source. Is the putative advantage of debian's method of handling kernel headers sufficiently better to justify the ensuing confusion? (Not withstanding problems I had myself with a recent kernel and modutils/modules compiling). I use my linux system to learn, and I have been able to install many well designed packages by compiling them. But debian is going off in some direction of its own, leaving me behind. I don't want an idiotproof linux. Well, all that being said, I hope the alternative insights of one man out, the user with a small system, will be useful in some way. Alan Davis -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Linux Help Needed.
Hi. Hey, you shouldn't begin with 'I have a PPro ...'. It make me jaleous and I don't want to help you ! ( the 486 is great, but still...) I suppose your CD-rom is IDE, so your block device name should be /dev/hdc1 I'm not sure because mine is different. hda is the master on the first interface, ( C: ) hdb - slave --, ( D: ) so I suppose the next is hdc the number is for the partition. As there is only one in a cd-rom, it sould be 1. Oops, I checked the Linux File System Standart, and it says /dev/hdc (master cdrom on the second interface) Bye, Alexandre On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, val.tamarov wrote: Hi there !!! I installed Linux in my system but i can't run dselect to install all the packages. Please help me what to write when dselect asks me for the locations and some blocks, what I have to type there. I have Pentium Pro (686) with to HD controllers on board. So my 2 HD's are conected to first controller and my primary master (c: drive) is for windows and dos, and second HD- primary slave (d: drive) is for Linux. My CD-ROM is conected to second conntroller as secondary master. If anything else needed please e-mail me. Thanks for your time and help [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
more nis problems
My nis server crashed yesterday. I have re-set it up, following the nis.debian.howto documantation, re-added my users, and ran make in the /var/yp directory. Yet when a user tries to login from the client machine, they get this error: YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: No bound server for domain my_domain How do I bind a server to my_domain? I have tried telling the client who its master is, according to nis.debian.howto. The file says to add a list of servers after the call to ypbind, like this: ypbind -S nisserver I'm not to sure what this means. I have tried adding the -S switch, followed by the server name, to a few different calls to ypbind (in the test line, in the start-stop-daemon line, even in the echo ypbind line). I also have tried to add a new command after the start-stop-daemon and test lines: ypbind -S torvalds torvalds is the server name here. I either get an illegal switch error, in the case of adding the switch, or get a another ypbind already running error, in the case of the added ypbind call. If anyone out there sees my glaring mistake, please let me know. Reply both to the list and my personal account, please. Thanks in Advance... Mike Eastern Washington University -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: more nis problems
My nis server crashed yesterday. I have re-set it up, following the
nis.debian.howto documantation, re-added my users, and ran make in the
/var/yp directory. Yet when a user tries to login from the client machine,
they get this error:
YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: No bound server for domain my_domain
How do I bind a server to my_domain?
I have tried telling the client who its master is, according to
nis.debian.howto. The file says to add a list of servers after the call
to ypbind, like this:
ypbind -S nisserver
The -S switch just restricts what servers the ypbind is allowed to connect
to. What happens is that ypbind asks the rpc mechanism to send out a
broadcast to see what servers are running the ypserv process. Then ypbind
will reject any servers that aren't in the list specified by the -S
switch. I think you need something more like -S my_domain),nisserver if
you want to do this.
However, it seems that ypbind can't find a server in your case. I have
similar problems here. The solution (in my case) is to run ypbind with
the -ypsetme flag, and then use ypset to bind it to the server you want.
Here are the lines from my /etc/init.d/nis file:
start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec ${NET}/ypbind -- -ypsetme
/usr/sbin/ypset fleming
I don't know if this is the correct way to do things -- but I've found nis
to be very frustrating, and at least this seems to work a bit.
Cheers,
- Jim
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Re: Is there a ncftp package?
On Apr 17, Eloy A. Paris wrote is there a package of the FTP client ncftp? The one that comes standard with Debian isn't as nice as ncftp. Did you take a look at either /debian/bo/binary/net and /debian/non-free/binary? I installed ncftp today so there obviously is a similar package. :-) Regards... Joey -- Individual Network e.V._/OrgaTech KG i.Gr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Geschaeftszeit: Di+Mi+Fr, 15-18 Uhr _/Tel: (0441) 9808556 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: more nis problems
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Pick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --==_Exmh_1602868732P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: No bound server for domain my_domain How do I bind a server to my_domain? However, it seems that ypbind can't find a server in your case. I have similar problems here. The solution (in my case) is to run ypbind with the -ypsetme flag, and then use ypset to bind it to the server you want. This usually indicates that the network/broadcast address is not set up correctly. Then nothing that relies on broadcasting works. Check /etc/init.d/network Mike. -- |Miquel van |I know one million ways, to always pick| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |the wrong fantasy --- the Black Crowes| | PGP fingerprint: FE 66 52 4F CD 59 A5 36 7F 39 8B 20 F1 D6 74 02 | -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DEITY TEAM -- one comment
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Lamar Folsom wrote: Francois Gouget writes: Unfortunately in some cases it is not so simple to check for space availability as /var may be on one partition, /usr on another and /lib yet somewhere else. Should be doable. df to get all the partitions and their capacities, df /var, df /usr, etc to get the filesystems containing these directories, and a script to sort it all out. Does this mean that each package will have to list the space it requires in every directory and the packaging software will figure out if each of those directories is on a separate partition? It does this already, doesn't it. I can see all the file sizes when I browse a .deb file in mc. I have seen a user that had separate /var, /usr/lib, and /home partitions. Please figure out how much space to report for postgres and how it will be reported. df on its own produces a list of mounts and their available space which can be reverse sorted by mount. Given a file to install, a forward search for the first matching start of the path tells you which available space to decrement, because the most specific match will be found first. I think figuring out how much space is required for the installation may be more difficult than just doing 'df' on each partition and sorting it all out. This calculation seems to me to be just what computers were invented for. -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Amiga Filesystem mounting bother.
Hi there, After some very successful tests with UAE I`ve decided to strip my A1200 drive out and shove it in my PC. I`ve recompiled my kernel with both affs and loop device support (not moduled, compiled straight in). But I`m still unable to mount this drive. The drive is a 420 Conner drive. It`s configured correctly in the BIOS as Secondary slave (/dev/hdd?). The drive is split into 4 partitions all formatted on the amiga using standard FastFileSystem. SYS: DH0: DH1: DH2: I`ve created a mountpoint called /AMIGA. Doing... mount /dev/hdd /AMIGA -t affs produces the following; # mount /dev/hdd /AMIGA -t affs mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd, or too many mounted file systems # Here`s the bootup log from /var/log/messages. Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: loop: registered device at major 7 Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: hda: QUANTUM FIREBALL1080A, 1039MB w/83kB Cache, LBA, CHS=528/64/63 Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: hdb: WEARNES CDD-120, ATAPI CDROM drive Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: hdc: ST3660A, 520MB w/120kB Cache, LBA, CHS=1057/16/63 Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: hdd: Conner Peripherals 420MB - CFS420A, 406MB w/64kB Cache, CHS=826/16/63 Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: Started kswapd v 1.4.2.2 Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: md driver 0.35 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8 Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: Partition check: Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: hda: hda1 Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: hdc: hdc1 hdc2 Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: hdd:Dev 16:40 Sun disklabel: bad magic Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: Dev 5696: RDB in block 0 has bad checksum Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: unknown partition table Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Apr 17 20:21:21 scorch kernel: Adding Swap: 41324k swap-space Apr 17 20:21: Judging by this the kernel isn`t understanding the partition table for some reason. 2 of the partitions used to be AFS (another new miggie file system) but have now been formatted to FFS. Am I on the right track? The drive is fine in the amiga but linux just can`t seem to mount it. The drive I`m sure is on /dev/hdd as it spins down now and again then when tryingt to mount it it spins back up. Ozzy, __ _ _ / \ \ \ / / / / / |-Brian SkreegIRC:_Ozzy-| \__/ \ \ |-Lead guitarist extraordinaire-| \__/_/ |-I don't look like two zombies-| -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: What is the proper way
Hi, If you already have compiled the Kernel yourself, just do make *config; make modules; make modules_install and perhaps depmod -a; After that the modules can be inserted automatically by kerneld. No need to recompile or reboot. If you still run the kernel from the distribution floppy, I **Highly** recommand that you recompile it anyway. For me that spares 400 KB of memory, avoids hangs and warnings at boot time. (there is still a lot of non-modules drivers in). Alexandre On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Geoff R Deasey wrote: I was about to recompile the kernel to add support for the soundblaster 16 and wondered should I remove any modules and rebuild them even though I am only adding one module ? Can I run make modules only ? Or do I have to do make dep;make clean;make zImage;make modules;make modules_install ? Advice requested. thanks --Jeff -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DEITY TEAM -- REQUEST FOR FUNCTIONALITY and COMMENTS
One more idea to throw in the pot: How about including smbfs in the base kernel and allowing installation from a Win95 or NT share? Almost every office is going to have one of those around where you can share out a CDROM with a couple of mouse clicks. You could even do from with Windows-for-WorkGroups if you mangle the names to fit but that probably isn't worth the trouble. This might help a lot of people get their first Linux system up on machines that don't have their own CDROM drives. Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Linux Help Needed.
Hi there !!! I installed Linux in my system but i can't run dselect to install all the packages. Please help me what to write when dselect asks me for the locations and some blocks, what I have to type there. I have Pentium Pro (686) with to HD controllers on board. So my 2 HD's are conected to first controller and my primary master (c: drive) is for windows and dos, and second HD- primary slave (d: drive) is for Linux. My CD-ROM is conected to second conntroller as secondary master. If anything else needed please e-mail me. Thanks for your time and help [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
What is the proper way
I was about to recompile the kernel to add support for the soundblaster 16 and wondered should I remove any modules and rebuild them even though I am only adding one module ? Can I run make modules only ? Or do I have to do make dep;make clean;make zImage;make modules;make modules_install ? Advice requested. thanks --Jeff -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: more nis problems
Is it my imagination, or does the NIS included with Debian not pay any attention to the services map? I've got an application (DQS from FSU) that won't run on a Debian box running NIS because it can't find the services entry that's in the database, but runs just fine on a RedHat box using NYS... Is there an NYS.deb out there somewhere? Dean -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
DEITY TEAM: Minor query re: .deb format
Just out of curiosity, why did Debian decide to use a .deb package format, as opposed to, say, a debian_control file inside the .tar archive? So far as I can see: PROS: .deb format allows easy ID of packages that can be installed on Debian systems. CONS: Cannnot use the Debianized package without dpkg. Difficult to unDebianize. Twice the effort of maintenance - either developer must release two versions or a separate (and possibly out-of-synch) package maintainer must be recruited. Using the universally (well, Unixversally) supported .tar standard has only one con that I can see - you have to at least use tar -t to see if the package has been Debianized. This seems a small price to pay to avoid the other disadvantages. Sincerely, Ray Ingles (810) 377-7735[EMAIL PROTECTED] If all the muscles in your body pulled in the same direction, you could lift over twenty tons. But you'd walk funny. - L. M. Boyd -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DEITY TEAM: Minor query re: .deb format
On Apr 17, Raymond A. Ingles wrote Just out of curiosity, why did Debian decide to use a .deb package format, as opposed to, say, a debian_control file inside the .tar archive? So far as I can see: PROS: .deb format allows easy ID of packages that can be installed on Debian systems. CONS: Cannnot use the Debianized package without dpkg. false Difficult to unDebianize. false .deb is a very simple ar archive. You can use ar to display its contents and to extract data.tar.gz which contains the package, control.tar.gz contains the pre/post inst/rm scripts. (filenames from memory, might be called slightly different) Using the universally (well, Unixversally) supported .tar standard has The package inside .deb is a simple compressed tar archive. Regards... Joey -- Individual Network e.V._/OrgaTech KG i.Gr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]_/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Geschaeftszeit: Di+Mi+Fr, 15-18 Uhr _/Tel: (0441) 9808556 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Simple Unix question
How does one extract a .zip archive in unix?? joe | joseph robert palicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] |.|--| .| [_] [] \ / http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/palicke Thou shalt not commit laundry -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Simple Unix question
Use the unzip program from the unzip package. Cheers, - Jim pgpzlY0SIrRyi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Any good book on numerical analysis?
Hi, I am a beginner in C/C++ and i search a book on numerical analysis. Anyone know a book accessible for me? I have the Numerical Recipies and i woulk like to have a book in C/C++ training me in numerical analysis. Thanks, Dany Dionne -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Simple Unix question
Unfortunatly I'm away from my linux system right now, and the computer I'm on dosent have unzip installed. Is there anything else I can use than unzip?? joe | joseph robert palicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] |.|--| .| [_] [] \ / http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/palicke On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Jim Pick wrote: Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:47:04 -0700 From: Jim Pick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Klaus Hergerschiemer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian Users Discussion List debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Simple Unix question Use the unzip program from the unzip package. Cheers, - Jim pgpdTWevzoKiQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Simple Unix question
Try doing a keyword search through the man pages for the word zip: man -k zip Maybe a custom utility has been installed. -Rajpaul On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Klaus Hergerschiemer wrote: Unfortunatly I'm away from my linux system right now, and the computer I'm on dosent have unzip installed. Is there anything else I can use than unzip?? joe | joseph robert palicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] |.|--| .| [_] [] \ / http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/palicke On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Jim Pick wrote: Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 12:47:04 -0700 From: Jim Pick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Klaus Hergerschiemer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian Users Discussion List debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Simple Unix question Use the unzip program from the unzip package. Cheers, - Jim -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DEITY TEAM: Minor query re: .deb format
.deb is a very simple ar archive. You can use ar to display its contents and to extract data.tar.gz which contains the package, control.tar.gz contains the pre/post inst/rm scripts. (filenames from memory, might be called slightly different) Using the universally (well, Unixversally) supported .tar standard has The package inside .deb is a simple compressed tar archive. I'd think the info-zip package would have been a better choice since you can extract individual elements without uncomressing the whole mess and you wouldn't need two layers of archiving. Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Does this list still work?
Does the list still work, or have I been cut of for some reason? John Foster -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Does this list still work?
It seems to still work. joe | joseph robert palicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] |.|--| .| [_] [] \ / http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/palicke On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, John Foster wrote: Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 06:10:46 +1000 (EST) From: John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Does this list still work? Resent-Date: 17 Apr 1997 21:10:05 - Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Resent-cc: recipient list not shown:;@cs.purdue.edu Does the list still work, or have I been cut of for some reason? John Foster -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: 1.2.4 list of known problems
On 16 Apr 1997, Alair Pereira do Lago wrote: If I understood right, this is known bug on which order the packages are installed and has being worked. You can solve this by choosing 'install' again in dselect. BTW, put /usr/X11R6/lib in yout /etc/ld.conf and run ldconfig if you have not done it. Thank you very much. I had also another reply via private e-mail, Marco Frattola [EMAIL PROTECTED] kindly sent the following to me (pointing out that it may not be up to date): Subject: List of installation problems for 1.2 The following list was composed from reports of those who have already installed Debian GNU/Linux 1.2. If you are having any trouble with your installation, consult this list for possible solutions. 1. Already reported as a bug: Can't find xlib6 so file. Add /usr/X11R6/lib to ld.so.conf and run ldconfig. 2. Dselect fails to satisfy pre-depends for perl (libdl1) Installing ldso by hand solves the problem. 3. Bug#5659: dpkg-gencontrol fails in chown new files listfile. Possible patch. 4. New sendmail fails to use old .cf file One report indicates re-installation fixes the problem. 5. Cron dies. (actually never starts) Run update-rc.d cron defaults 6. Gcc depends on cpp, but cpp conflicts with gcc. Retag gcc and re-run deselect. 7. Modconf messes up screen display on some lines. Possible dialog problem? 8. /bin/perl disapears and reappears during installation. Replace link by hand: ln -s /usr/bin/perl /bin/perl 9. Bug#5479 dpkg fails to preserve set id bits when copying files. No fix reported (possible patch) 10. gpm preinstall can't remove old gpm Remove by hand using dpkg --purge. 11. xbase can't remove xdm and xfs Remove by hand using dpkg --purge. 12. libg++ and libg++-dev conflict. Re-running the installation fixes it. 13. dependent packages bomb because libc5 is not installed first Upgrade base first. 14. no /dev/sr0 from MAKEDEV New version fixes this. 15. Gimp fails because there is no .gimprc file Create an empty .gimprc 16. Base-files should Provide: base Was: Smartlist and possibly other programs as well, depend on base. Fixed in the next version. 17. Adduser depends on perl-suid, not in base. Install by hand using --force-depends 18. Mc fails to declare it's dependence on libgpm. Should declare dpendence on libgpm. Install the gpm package. See you again. Nicola Bernardelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You can use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for messages not coming from any kind of robot, such as mailing lists. From that address some autoresponse messages may return when I'm not at home. --- Potete utilizzare [EMAIL PROTECTED] per messaggi non provenienti da sistemi automatici di qualunque tipo, per esempio mailing list. Da quell'indirizzo potranno venire risposte automatiche quando sono fuori citta`. --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there a ncftp package?
Hi, Did you take a look at either /debian/bo/binary/net and /debian/non-free/binary? I installed ncftp today so there obviously is a similar package. :-) Nope. I was looking at Rex. I'll look at bo and non-free this time. Regards, E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Simple Unix question
Klaus Hergerschiemer wrote: How does one extract a .zip archive in unix?? Besides the unzip that people mentioned, if your .zip archive is very simple (contains only one file), you can use gzip to uncompress it. gunzip something.zip should do it. -- -=- Rjs -=- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: DEITY TEAM -- Response to call for comments
Alan Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Another thing that would help would be to HAVE ALL FILES IN
/var/lib/dpkg/info IN GZIPED FORMAT. My little system now has 893KB in
that directory, and I have gziped almost all the postinst scripts by hand.
The vast majority of the files in this directory are already smaller
than 1K, so gzipping them would be of dubious benefit. It would be
more beneficial to combine the database into a few files, which would
benefit from compression and also save the time spent scanning
directory entries.
It would probably not be useful to combine the {pre,post}{inst,rm}
files because these are handy to have around, but the list, checksum
and conffiles definitely would benefit, from what I can see.
This is really a dpkg issue, and so of little relevance to Deity.
Tony.
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Memory Gobbler
I have 128MB RAM and 256KB cache. My machine has been up 32 days. For the first 3 weeks it went really nicely, didn't get anywhere near using any swap. However this week it's usage has got over 100MB (now up to 120MB, after deducting buffers and cached, i.e. the second row of free output) and there's plenty of swap being used! I just can't figure out what's eating it. I wrote a script to total the figures produced by ps aux in the VSZ and RSS columns. At present these come to: 192452 20612 respectively. To me this means there is only 20MB of RAM actually used by processes, and the 192MB of virtual memory is probably not correct because some is shared. So: what's eating it? If it's any help, here's the output of some commands: % free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:127756 126048 1708 17040304 3528 -/+ buffers: 122216 5540 Swap: 128484 27208 101276 % ps aux USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT START TIME COMMAND daemon 210 0.0 0.0 832 0 ? SW Mar 17 0:08 rpc.portmap dennis 844 0.0 0.0 1452 0 pf SW Apr 16 0:00 bash dennis 880 0.0 0.8 3492 1032 pf SApr 16 0:16 ical dmneal 17887 0.0 0.0 1072 0 q4 SW Mar 27 0:00 csh nobody1586 0.0 0.0 100460 ? SApr 15 0:00 httpd nobody1587 0.0 0.0 100456 ? SApr 15 0:00 httpd nobody1588 0.0 0.0 100460 ? SApr 15 0:00 httpd nobody 21109 0.0 0.3 3328 440 q4 S N Apr 15 0:23 cached nobody 21110 0.0 0.0 816 0 q4 SWN Apr 15 0:00 dnsserver nobody 2 0.0 0.0 816 0 q4 SWN Apr 15 0:00 dnsserver nobody 21112 0.0 0.0 816 0 q4 SWN Apr 15 0:00 dnsserver operator 2132 0.0 0.0 1484 0 q6 SW Apr 16 0:00 bash operator 2245 0.1 0.7 4364 920 q6 SApr 16 4:09 wish -f /usr/bin/ex richards 1053 0.0 0.2 1484 300 2 S 09:07 0:00 bash richards 5020 0.0 0.3 1484 504 4 SMar 20 0:00 -bash richards 8248 0.0 0.7 2420 980 2 S 10:18 0:00 pine richards 9166 0.0 0.3 928 440 4 R 10:27 0:00 ps aux richards 31895 0.0 0.0 1488 0 pb SW16:41 0:00 bash root 1 0.0 0.0 81216 ? SMar 17 41:31 init root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Mar 17 0:03 kflushd root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Mar 17 4:42 kswapd root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Mar 17 0:00 nfsiod root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Mar 17 0:00 nfsiod root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Mar 17 0:00 nfsiod root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW Mar 17 0:00 nfsiod root13 0.0 0.0 78848 ? SMar 17 17:58 update root 196 0.0 0.2 1084 336 ? SMar 17 1:50 /sbin/syslogd root 198 0.0 0.0 964 0 ? SW Mar 17 0:01 klogd root 206 0.0 0.0 80048 ? SMar 17 0:00 /sbin/kerneld root 212 0.0 0.0 81224 ? SMar 17 0:13 inetd root 281 0.0 0.0 936 0 ? SW Mar 17 0:02 au root 291 0.0 0.0 1068 124 ? SMar 17 4:11 /usr/sbin/snmpd -f root 303 0.0 0.0 92476 ? SMar 17 1:52 /usr/sbin/rpc.nfsd root 305 0.0 0.0 88872 ? SMar 17 0:10 /usr/sbin/rpc.mount root 309 0.0 0.0 84488 ? SMar 17 13:49 /usr/sbin/atalkd root 319 0.0 0.0 89252 ? SMar 17 0:10 /usr/sbin/afpd root 322 0.0 0.0 828 112 ? SMar 17 1:22 /usr/sbin/cron root 329 0.0 0.0 200480 ? SMar 17 0:08 xdm root 331 0.0 0.0 804 0 1 SW Mar 17 0:00 getty root 335 0.0 0.0 804 0 5 SW Mar 17 0:00 getty root 336 0.0 0.0 804 0 6 SW Mar 17 0:00 getty root 843 0.0 0.0 1076 0 ? SW Apr 16 0:00 in.telnetd root 1428 0.0 0.0 274080 ? S 17:03 0:01 xterm root 1487 0.0 0.3 2740 420 ? S 17:04 0:01 xterm -bg LavenderB root 2131 0.0 0.0 1076 0 ? SW Apr 16 0:00 in.telnetd root 2443 0.0 0.0 283620 ? SApr 16 0:01 xterm root 2780 0.0 0.0 274064 ? SApr 14 0:01 xterm root 3537 0.0 0.1 1232 232 ? SMar 18 0:36 sendmail: accepting root 3766 0.0 0.0 848 0 ? SW Mar 20 0:00 papd root 4518 0.0 0.1 2044 208 ? SApr 11 0:01 -massiveduck.cc. root 7126 0.0 0.0 1048 0 q4 SWN Apr 9 0:01 RunCache root 9156 0.0 0.0 294832 ? SApr 14 0:15 xterm root 9161 0.0 0.3 1456 416 ? S 10:27 0:00 bash ./monitor.sh m root 9162 0.0 0.2 864 360 ? S 10:27 0:00 /bin/ping -q -i 1 - root 9163 0.0 0.2 896 272 ? S 10:27 0:00 fgrep % root 9164 0.0 0.2 808 268 ?
Re: DEITY TEAM -- one comment
Lamar Folsom writes: Does this mean that each package will have to list the space it requires in every directory... It would be sufficient to provide the complete path and size of each file. ...and the packaging software will figure out if each of those directories is on a separate partition? 'df /some/arbitrary/path/to/some/directory' reports which partition that directory is on. I have seen a user that had separate /var, /usr/lib, and /home partitions. Please figure out how much space to report for postgres and how it will be reported. Please supply a list of paths to each file with the size of each file. The report could take many different forms: for instance, a list of partitions giving the free space that will remain on each after installing postgres. I think figuring out how much space is required for the installation may be more difficult than just doing 'df' on each partition and sorting it all out. First, I was talking about figuring out how much space is *available*. Second, I did not propose doing 'df' on each partition, but on each directory in which the package under consideration would put stuff. 'df /var/lib/games' tells me what partition /var/lib/games is on, and how much free space it has. This would allow me to build a little database to which the package manager could direct queries such as 'If I put 17M in /var/lib/games and 2.1M in /usr/bin, how much space will be left on each partition?'. This could be used to provide the user with a report showing him how much space he has left after each selection. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: routing setup question
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
[ all my config info deleted ]
Let me comment: Except for one minor flaw, those configs are working. The
only flaw in there was, that in the setup for icemark, the route to
firefranc needs to be a host route (root add -host ${FIREFRANC} eth0)
instead of a net route (route add -net ${NETWORK} eth0). The net route
resulted in me being unable to reach other thenet hosts, like for instance
www.thenet.ch...
Apart from that Jens help was exactly what I asked for...
What if Benedikt needs two hosts connected because he intends to run DNS
and has to have a primary and secondary server in order to register his
own domains? This *would* *not* *work* using IP masq or transparent
proxying.
Excellent guess, because that is *exactly* what I needed this information
for... ;)
Setting up the nameservers will be the next job.
That said, looking at a DNS dump from thenet.ch, if hostnames are any
indication of allocated addresses, it would appear that only 27
addresses within 193.135.252 are currently used, so they could do this
without much pain.
Nope, actually most addresses are in use, the 193.135.252 net is also used
for their dialins. The 27 registered names are the only *fixed* numbers in
there.
Benedikt
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