Re: Adpkg (was Re: How to trick debian into thinking a package is installed)
On 12 May 1997, Ed Donovan wrote: While the topic is raised--I installed adpkg a while ago, mistakenly thinking it could come out cleanly if I wanted to remove it. I haven't used deb2asc or asc2deb yet, and don't think I'm using anything else provided by adpkg. I'd like to remove it for now, but as an 'Essential' package dpkg/dselect doesn't want to let it go. I could force-remove-essential it, but with it being tied so closely to dpkg, I haven't wanted to risk that going wrong (not fully confident in my prediction of dpkg's actions). Or I could purge it out manually. I like to leave my dpkg and debian installation as clean and uninterfered-with as possible, so I'm curious to hear what the group knows before trying anything more. if you install dpgk again before removing adpkg, nothing will break: dpkg -i dpkg_1.4.0.8.deb dpkg -r --force-remove-essential adpkg I've successfully removed adpkg from at least a dozen systems like this. I used adpkg for a while - i really like the way it's dselect scans the binary directories first and builds a list of packages to install, and i also like the way it configures packages immediately. Unfortunately, it needs some dependancy ordering so that it doesn't try configuring a package before all packages it depends on are configured - which leads to having to run Install about a million times and also manually install some packages. There are other problems with adpkg as well. adpkg shows a lot of promise, but it needs more work. craig -- craig sanders networking consultant Available for casual or contract temporary autonomous zone system administration tasks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: magicfilter entry for pdf files?
On Mon, 12 May 1997, Colin Telmer wrote:
I added the following two lines to my /usr/sbin/dj500-filter to print
pdf files:
# PDF files added by MWB
0 %PDFpipe/usr/bin/acroread -toPostScript
Would this not just transform the pdf input to ps output? Is magicfilter
then smart enough to run this output through its postscript filter?
Yes, that's what is great about magic filter.
Incidentally, I found another message today:
-
To make printing work from acroread, I had to add the following line
/Default currenthalftone /Halftone defineresource pop
at the end of the file /usr/share/ghostscript/4.03/gs_init.ps.
Great little patch, but I found that printing directly from .pdf files,
e.g.
gs -sDEVICE=ljet2p -dFirstPage=2 -dLastPage=10 \
-sOutputFile=ofile pdf-file
was broke. Therefore I made made the above conditionally:
/Default /Halftone resourcestatus { pop pop }
{ /Default currenthalftone /Halftone defineresource pop } ifelse
---
This seems to suggest that the problem is a bug in Acroread, and not
gs, but the gs_init.ps file is a work around.
Mark
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Problems with Frozen
I am attempting to install frozen on a spanking clean system, it has no DOS, no nothing. It has a single IDE disk drive (/dev/hda). It appears that the only rescue disk in .../frozen/disks-i386/current is the low memory disk. This causes me a problem when I try to install, it asks me if I want to create partitions, I do, but it takes me right back to the menu, it will not launch cfdisk. Then I attemted to use the rescue disk from stable with the base disks from frozen. When I get to the device drivers disk, it dies with zcat not found. I then created a symlink from gunzip to zcat and it appeared to work but during the configure device driver modules phase, it died with not finding something in /usr/lib/modules... (it flashed so quickly I could not catch all of it.) Where can I find good installation disks for frozen?? George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SGML ??
Rick Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm looking for the linuxdoc-sgml package. It's not in the directory it was reported in. There are some packages called sgml-tool and docs. Has the one linuxdoc-sgml.deb been replaced by the sgml packages? If so what packages would I need to have the entire thing? As I recall, sgml-tools replaces linuxdoc-sgml. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PPP doesn't like anyone but root???
On Mon, 12 May 1997, Francis Swasey wrote: Ok, I give up. I've tried everything I can think of -- including reading the instructions. I still cannot get PPP to work for anyone other than root. I have put my userid in the /etc/group file as a member of group dialout and made sure that the modem device (/dev/ttyS0) is owned by group dialout. However, after the chat script finishes and the connection is made, I get the following messages in /var/adm/ppp.log and everything dies! pppd[300]: Serial connection established. pppd[300]: ioctl(PPPIOCGUNIT): Operation not permitted pppd[300]: ioctl(PPPIOCGDEBUG): Operation not permitted pppd[300]: Exit. What trivial piece of the installation have I messed up this time? pppd should be setuid root (chmod u+s /usr/sbin/pppd), otherwise it can't issue the proper ioctls to put the port in the correct state for ppp. If you do this, remember to install the suid-manager package and edit /etc/suid.conf so that the permissions arent lost next time you upgrade ppp. NOTE: doing making pppd setuid root is a potential security hole. alternatively, write a wrapper shell script which calls pppd with the appropriate parameters, and then configure sudo or super to allow certain users/groups to run your shell script as root. another option is to use diald to cause your system to connect to your ISP automatically on demand - it will run as root, so there will be no permissions problems. The wrapper script is most useful when you have users dialing IN to your system. diald is better when your system needs to dial out to connect to your ISP. craig -- craig sanders networking consultant Available for casual or contract temporary autonomous zone system administration tasks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape 4 ...
John Burwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This question may have already been answered, so please excuse me if this redundtant. I have checked the Netscape web and ftp sites, and did not see a version of Netscape Communicator 4 for Linux. I have seen it running in a number of screen shots and read abt in this mailing list. Is there a version for Linux? or which version works under Linux?? You're probably looking in the wrong directory. Its in ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.0b3. You'll probably also want the debian installer package. Get that from unstable/contrib (I think) on any debian ftp site. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with Frozen
On Mon, 12 May 1997, George Bonser wrote: I am attempting to install frozen on a spanking clean system, it has no DOS, no nothing. It has a single IDE disk drive (/dev/hda). It appears that the only rescue disk in .../frozen/disks-i386/current is the low memory disk. This causes me a problem when I try to install, it asks me if I want to create partitions, I do, but it takes me right back to the menu, it will not launch cfdisk. Did you try using fdisk? It's not as attractive as cfdisk but it does the job. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: LPRng and remote HP Laserjet 4M
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: : I just install lprng on our debian box. I happy to see that lprm work : correctly (with lpr we need to be root to used lprm). However, i have some : problems. Our HP Laserjet 4M has a ethernet card. Ok. I'm using a Laserjet Series II (ancient) with a JetDirect EX box, which works just like your setup. : 1)lpq doesn't appear to work correctly. If nothing is in the print : queue, everything goes well and i receive the message: : : Printer: lp is [EMAIL PROTECTED] : JetDirect lpd: no entries : : However, if something is in the print queue, i receive the error message: : : Printer: lp is [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Host '132.203.76.89' - cannot open connection to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' - : Connection refused This is absolutely correct. You are using the lpd emulation in the JetDirect card on your laser printer. That emulation only allows one connection at a time since it has no queue and is just pasing data to the printer. Therefore, if a job is busy printing, you can't get a second lpd connection to the card to request status information. You can't have everything... : 2)If think that the filter doesn't work properly because if i print text : document with specific french caracters (caracters with accents) the : caracteres printed are not right. : : My /etc/printcap is: : :lp= : :rm=132.203.76.56 : :sd=/var/spool/lpd/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-mono : :lf=/var/spool/lpd/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-mono/log : :af=/var/spool/lpd/PS_600dpi-letter-auto-mono/acct : :if=/usr/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-PS_600dpi-letter-auto-mono : :rp=text : :mx#0 : :sh : : Anyone can help me? I try to read in the doc but : it's to hudge. If anyone used succesfully LPRng and filter with a ethernet : Laserjet printer, i would appreciate to obtain copy of it's configuration : files. I can't help with the French-specific issues, but I'm using lprng with magicfilter quite happily. The big difference I see is that since I allow magicfilter to process all the files, I can use the 'raw' device on the JetDirect and avoid any processing outside of my control. My printcap looks like (with hostnames changed to help show what's going on): laser|HP Laserjet 2 on JetDirect :[EMAIL PROTECTED] :[EMAIL PROTECTED] :sd=/var/spool/lpd/laser :if=/usr/sbin/ljet2-filter :mx#0 :sh My ljet2-filter is a simple hack of one of the filters provided with the magicfilter package, which implements some local preferences. Note that I'm using a bounce queue in lprng lingo to have this machine do magicfilter processing, and then bounce the file over to the JetDirect unit. All my other hosts send their jobs to this machine for processing, and this is the only Linux host that talks directly to the printer. The Win95 boxes all send to the printer directly, which works great since the JetDirect can happily interleave jobs from the different protocol stacks. Bdale -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
PPP doesn't like anyone but root???
Ok, I give up. I've tried everything I can think of -- including reading the instructions. I still cannot get PPP to work for anyone other than root. I have put my userid in the /etc/group file as a member of group dialout and made sure that the modem device (/dev/ttyS0) is owned by group dialout. However, after the chat script finishes and the connection is made, I get the following messages in /var/adm/ppp.log and everything dies! pppd[300]: Serial connection established. pppd[300]: ioctl(PPPIOCGUNIT): Operation not permitted pppd[300]: ioctl(PPPIOCGDEBUG): Operation not permitted pppd[300]: Exit. What trivial piece of the installation have I messed up this time? Thanks, Frank -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with Frozen
On Mon, 12 May 1997, George Bonser wrote: Uhm, how do you tell the doggone boot disk that you want to run fdisk from the menus? At that point you have no prompt ... remember, this is a CLEAN system, there is no fdisk (or anything else) on it. In your explaination you explain that you are asked to create partitions but returned to THE MENU. This leads me to believe you are at the installation menu. The last entry on the menu will let you drop to the console. At the prompt type fdisk /dev/hda. On Mon, 12 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: On Mon, 12 May 1997, George Bonser wrote: I am attempting to install frozen on a spanking clean system, it has no DOS, no nothing. It has a single IDE disk drive (/dev/hda). It appears that the only rescue disk in .../frozen/disks-i386/current is the low memory disk. This causes me a problem when I try to install, it asks me if I want to create partitions, I do, but it takes me right back to the menu, it will not launch cfdisk. Did you try using fdisk? It's not as attractive as cfdisk but it does the job. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PPP doesn't like anyone but root???
Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NOTE: doing making pppd setuid root is a potential security hole. alternatively, write a wrapper shell script which calls pppd with the appropriate parameters, and then configure sudo or super to allow certain users/groups to run your shell script as root. I strongly recommend that you use sudo, super, or only launch pppd as root rather than making pppd suid root. sudo's easy to use, and much safer. You don't even need the wrapper script (at least not with sudo), it'll take arguments for the command it's going to execute as root. So if you enable sudo access to pppd for yourself, you can just say (for example): sudo pppd file /etc/ppp.options_out connect 'chat -f /etc/ppp.chatscript' to launch pppd. Note that you *can* use a wrapper script if you want, but you don't have to. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with Frozen
Uhm, how do you tell the doggone boot disk that you want to run fdisk from the menus? At that point you have no prompt ... remember, this is a CLEAN system, there is no fdisk (or anything else) on it. On Mon, 12 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: On Mon, 12 May 1997, George Bonser wrote: I am attempting to install frozen on a spanking clean system, it has no DOS, no nothing. It has a single IDE disk drive (/dev/hda). It appears that the only rescue disk in .../frozen/disks-i386/current is the low memory disk. This causes me a problem when I try to install, it asks me if I want to create partitions, I do, but it takes me right back to the menu, it will not launch cfdisk. Did you try using fdisk? It's not as attractive as cfdisk but it does the job. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Squid: list of currently cached objects?
On Sun, 11 May 1997, J.H.M. Dassen wrote:
How can I get a list of the URLs of the objects that squid has currently
cached?
awk '{print $6}' /var/spool/squid/log
The 'log' file format depends on the squid version. This is for squid
1.1.x - if you're still using the old squid 1.0.x you'll have to look at
the file to figure out which field to print with awk.
Having such a list would allow me to use 'wget' to refresh the cache; this
would be useful for my laptop system, which is not alway on the net.
#! /bin/sh
proxy=some.host
port=3128
http_proxy=http://$proxy:$port/
ftp_proxy=http://$proxy:$port/
gopher_proxy=http://$proxy:$port/
awk '{print $6}' /var/spool/squid/log | \
wget -q -nh -i /dev/stdin -O /dev/null
This is untested but it should work. If wget doesn't like working with
/dev/stdin then you'll have to redirect the output of awk to a temporary
file (e.g. tmpfile=/tmp/wget.$$) and use that instead.
The -q is for quiet, the -nh is to disable DNS lookups of hostnames
(let squid do that as required). The -O /dev/null should make wget
just dump everything it fetches into the bit-bucket.
If you wanted to exclude certain URLs then you could insert a 'grep -v
regexp | \' line in between the awk and the wget.
e.g.
$exclude=foo.com\|bar.org\|ftp://\|gopher://;
awk '{print $6}' /var/spool/squid/log | \
grep -v $exclude \|
wget -q -nh -i /dev/stdin -O /dev/null
excludes all ftp gopher URLs, as well as everything from domains
foo.com and bar.org
I also have a sample perl script posted by Duane Wessels (squid author)
on the squid-user list for converting the log file into pathnames (this
only works if you have a single cache_dir):
#!/usr/bin/perl
$L1= 16; # Level 1 directories
$L2= 256; # Level 2 directories
while () {
$f= hex($_);
$path= sprintf(%02X/%02X/%08X, $f % $L1, ($f / $L1) % $L2, $f);
print $path ;
}
(modified slightly from Duane's original to suit my purposes)
Converts log lines like:
6075 3373d9ac fffe 33054581 1667 http://foo.com/path/file.html
into lines like:
05/07/6075
which are pathnames relative to the cache_dir (/var/spool/squid by
default on debian systems)
You can use this to extract information about URLs from the cache - the
first few lines (usually approx 6 or 8) of each cached file contain
header information about the URL for squid's use. e.g.
$ head -6 /var/spool/squid/00/00/7001
HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Server: Netscape-Commerce/1.12
Date: Tuesday, 29-Apr-97 11:45:24 GMT
Last-modified: Friday, 28-Mar-97 01:11:23 GMT
Content-length: 656
Content-type: image/gif
head -6 is inadequate - sometimes there are more than 6 headers. I
don't think there is ever less than 6. Unfortunately, the 'header'
program which comes with deliver doesn't work on these files (probably
because the HTTP/1.0 . first line doesn't have a : in it)
have fun!
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Re: Debian as a server.
On 12 May 1997, Chris Brown wrote: I would like to hear from folks that are running medium to high volume servers related to their experiences. My boss was talking to folks at Netcom and was convinced by them, to some extent, that BSD was far superior to any Linux. That BSD was based on being a network oriented system and that Linux was designed as a general purpose system that was not really suited to being an effective and stable server. Stability is certainly a large concern of mine since I really don't want to have to baby sit the thing much once it is set up. As long as other folks don't get in and screw with it, I don't see that that is much to ask. Part of the key to this may be in selecting proper hardware to enable us to utilize the most stable drivers etc. This is one of the things that I often see people neglect in the concept of a high reliability system. It is unbelevable the sacrifice in reliability I see in the name of minimal performance increases that is after unnecessary. I use Debian Linux boxes for nearly all important (i.e. can't afford any downtime) internet related servers. I also use it as the main Windows SMB file server (with samba) at my main job. Linux's reliability can't be beat, especially if the core kernel is surrounded by an excellent quality distribution like debian. some examples from my primary workplace: - a 32MB Pentium file server running samba, supporting about a dozen users. This machine is faster and far more reliable than either of the two main NT boxes we have, and does a better job in about half of the memory that NT requires. - a 192MB Pentium with 8GB disk running squid, acting as the parent proxy for about 60 other squids and about 100 dial-up users. This machine averages about 25000 hits/hour over a day (over 3/4 of these hits are between the hours of 8.30am and 4.00pm). This machine gets used hard. It could probably use more memory (big squid caches need lots of RAM) but it's working fine as is. Originally, this machine was a freebsd box. It crashed regularly (several times per week), and the squid process died several times per day. From the day it was converted to a debian Linux box it has performed flawlessly. It only ever gets rebooted for hardware upgrades...more disk, more ram, a better motherboard. - a 32MB Pentium running squid. This one has only a tiny cache (it uses the machine above as a parent) but has about 5 or 6000 acl rules to restrict access to porno sites. Most of our school customers choose to use this. This machine really needs more memory and probably a faster processorthose acls really take a lot of processing power. - a 32MB news server with about 3 gig of scsi disk. enough to keep all but *binaries* for about a week or so. - (at another site) another news server, nearly identical except it has IDE disks instead of scsi, and has 40MB RAM instead of 32MB. - approx two dozen 8MB AMD586-133 boxes with 8-port MOXA serial cards installed at various schools as dialin servers for staff and students to access the internet, SMB file services, and/or Novell file servers from home - I have also set up Debian machines for several small to medium sized ISPs here in Melbourne. Usually to replace broken Slackware or occasionally RedHat systems. The upgrade to debian has always been appreciated by my customers - they like it that their servers don't crash any more: part of that is because i know what i'm doing and know how to configure a machine properly, but a lot of it is due to the fundamental stability of Debian. - numerous routers, dial-in servers, internet gateways, squid proxy caches, news servers, DNS servers, mail servers etc etc installed at various locationssome machines performing only or two heavy load functions, others doing just about everything. all are working well and require little maintainence. All of these machines are extremely reliable and stable. They fall over when there's a power outage. Occasionaly I've had a hard disk die on me. Other than that, they work. I build them, they stay running. I like Linux. I would have no hesitation in using a Linux machine for any server task unless there was some requirement to run commercial software which is not available for Linux (even then I'd prefer to use some alternative which DID run on Linux) In short, I *trust* Debian. I haven't found any other operating system which I trust anywhere near as much. In my experience, NONE of the commercial unixes I have worked with (*) come close to Linux for stabilityand NT is basically a joke. (*) lots of SCO (hate it), some Solaris (i like it), lots of NextStep (loathe it!), a few Irix boxes, a couple-of-dozen SunOs boxes in the old days (too BSD-ish for my liking, but quite stable nonetheless). Dabbled with several others. In fact, my experiences over the last 4 or 5 years have convinced me
Re: NEED info concerning US Robotics modem
On Mon, May 12, 1997 at 01:27:32PM -0300, Nelson Posse Lago wrote: On Tue, 6 May 1997, ychim wrote: The only modem from US Robotic not works under Linux is WinModem :) The Sportster Si (I think only 14400 versions exist) is a RPI model, and therefore doesn't work under linux as well. I doubt USR would be making RPI (Rockwell Protocol Interface) modems. Probably it is a form of WinModem. Same effect though. (Actually, Winmodem is even more braindead than RPI; RPI just leaves out the hardware error correction and compression, WinModem leaves out almost everything.) hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, StudIEAust[EMAIL PROTECTED] Student, computer science computer systems engineering.3rd year, RMIT. http://yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au/~moffatt (PGP key here) CPOM: [ ] 42% -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Netscape 4 ...
This question may have already been answered, so please excuse me if this redundtant. I have checked the Netscape web and ftp sites, and did not see a version of Netscape Communicator 4 for Linux. I have seen it running in a number of screen shots and read abt in this mailing list. Is there a version for Linux? or which version works under Linux?? Thanx again for your patience and assistance. Thanx. See ya round. -jOHN --- John Burwell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Transylvania University, Computer Science Division The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist. - Verbal Kent (The Usual Suspects) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: InfoMagic's new LDR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benedict Chong) writes: Is anyone going to come up with a similar install guide? It is maintained with the boot-floppies package by Sven Rudolph. A german version is (will be) available to (from my homepage). Bye Christian -- Christian Leutloff, Aachen, Germany eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oche.de/~leutloff/ Debian/GNU Linux! Mehr unter http://www.debian.org/ pgp9qqTV1oXy6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Adpkg (was Re: How to trick debian into thinking a package is installed)
Thanks, Craig - Craig == Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Craig if you install dpgk again before removing adpkg, nothing will Craig break: Craig dpkg -i dpkg_1.4.0.8.deb dpkg -r --force-remove-essential Craig adpkg Craig I've successfully removed adpkg from at least a dozen systems Craig like this. That's very good to know, will do. Craig I used adpkg for a while - i really like the way it's dselect Craig scans the binary directories first and builds a list of Craig packages to install, and i also like the way it configures Craig packages immediately. Unfortunately, it needs some dependancy Craig ordering so that it doesn't try configuring a package before Craig all packages it depends on are configured - which leads to Craig having to run Install about a million times and also manually Craig install some packages. There are other problems with adpkg as Craig well. I hadn't been aware of that stuff; it's interesting. (I wasn't sure what, if, or how much adpkg was doing for the standard dpkg dselect commands. Adpkg says it replaces provides dpkg, but dpkg's files are still listed in dpkg.list, and its status is 'installed'; I haven't know what to consider whose.) Is there a doc source you know about, or is that from the source or debian-devel, or general smarts? :-) Maybe I could bone up on adpkg before I remove it. Craig adpkg shows a lot of promise, but it needs more work. (Not just for Craig; he's helped enough :) Is there still work being done on adpkg, or are the ideas being moved into the deity project or some such? Well, I'm chattering a bit, those are just browsing-level interest questions, I know what I need to know practically now. Thanks again, Craig, Ed -- Ed Donovan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian as a server.
Hi Chris, Just a note to tell you that I have been using Debian here on all my servers. I am currently a low to medium voulme system and so I am unable to say what the stability of the system would be like at high traffic levels. Upon initial setup, the Debian systems have been preforming flawlessly, including online, no downtime upgrades to the latest packages. (Not kernel upgrades) Each system is running multiple servers including www, ftp, dialin PPP, telnet etc. What can I say? It works for me and I would not change at this point! Regards, Rowan - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rowan Deppeler System administrator Cybernex Networking http://www.cybernex.net.au vk3vw / vk3rcr - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I have been using Debian for a while now as a work station for a little bit now and have been pleased with it. I was originally quite surprised at the performance and reliability that I experienced. VERY soon I will have to install a server here at work for FTP and WWW services. [Snip] I would like to hear from folks that are running medium to high volume servers related to their experiences -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with Frozen
Oh, I see. No, it never got to the installation menu .. it was still text at that point. Told me I needed a swap partition to run the GUI installation program ... then asks for the partition name or enter to create one. I pressed enter and it kicked me back to the selection again without creating the swap partition. I used the installation disk from stable to create the partitions then re-ran the disk from frozen and all is well. I am installing the base diskettes as I type this. In your explaination you explain that you are asked to create partitions but returned to THE MENU. This leads me to believe you are at the installation menu. The last entry on the menu will let you drop to the console. At the prompt type fdisk /dev/hda. George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PPP doesn't like anyone but root???
Rob Browning wrote: to launch pppd. Note that you *can* use a wrapper script if you want, but you don't have to. I,ve had good results with the little C program shown in Linux Journal, May 1997, Issue #37, Page 10. Its also available for ftp from ftp.ssc.com. Jim -- Debian Linux! Where I REALLY went today! Jim Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oz.net/~jim/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with Frozen
I'm about to do the sameinstall frozen on a brand new system. Whats the deal with the Base Disks, will they cause problems like what happened below ? Also, do problems still exist when rawriteing the base disks on a dos/windows system ? I know I had trouble with that before..its difficult to write the disks on a linux system when you are installing your only linux system, and rawriteing the disks on a dos/windows system has problems. Thanks, Matthew On Mon, 12 May 1997 21:42:04 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: On Mon, 12 May 1997, George Bonser wrote: I am attempting to install frozen on a spanking clean system, it has no DOS, no nothing. It has a single IDE disk drive (/dev/hda). It appears that the only rescue disk in .../frozen/disks-i386/current is the low memory disk. This causes me a problem when I try to install, it asks me if I want to create partitions, I do, but it takes me right back to the menu, it will not launch cfdisk. Did you try using fdisk? It's not as attractive as cfdisk but it does the job. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with Frozen
I had no trouble with the base disks but I created them from another system running Linux using dd. The important thing is to use FRESHLY FORMATTED diskettes. Do not overwrite a diskette with stuff on it. Use MS-DOS to format the diskette and then use rawrite. It is the boot disk (resc1440.bin) that I had trouble with. Grab the one out of stable/disks-i386/current/rsc1440.bin (note rsc vs. resc) and run that as far as creating and initializing the partitions, then put in the diskette from frozen and select reboot system from the installation menu and start over again with the frozen rescue drive. It worked well for me and I am installing via FTP using dselect as I type this. On Tue, 13 May 1997, Matthew Tebbens wrote: I'm about to do the sameinstall frozen on a brand new system. Whats the deal with the Base Disks, will they cause problems like what happened below ? Also, do problems still exist when rawriteing the base disks on a dos/windows system ? I know I had trouble with that before..its difficult to write the disks on a linux system when you are installing your only linux system, and rawriteing the disks on a dos/windows system has problems. Thanks, Matthew On Mon, 12 May 1997 21:42:04 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: On Mon, 12 May 1997, George Bonser wrote: I am attempting to install frozen on a spanking clean system, it has no DOS, no nothing. It has a single IDE disk drive (/dev/hda). It appears that the only rescue disk in .../frozen/disks-i386/current is the low memory disk. This causes me a problem when I try to install, it asks me if I want to create partitions, I do, but it takes me right back to the menu, it will not launch cfdisk. Did you try using fdisk? It's not as attractive as cfdisk but it does the job. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with Frozen
DOS is more forgiving of bad disks than linux is. This is about the only disk problem you might have. The only one I've heard of so far. If you put it on a bad disk use another one. Don't use DOS as aguage of a good disk or bad disk, it might be fine for DOS but not for linux. Disable all the BIOS goodies according to the instructions and it should go well. On Tue, 13 May 1997, Matthew Tebbens wrote: I'm about to do the sameinstall frozen on a brand new system. Whats the deal with the Base Disks, will they cause problems like what happened below ? Also, do problems still exist when rawriteing the base disks on a dos/windows system ? I know I had trouble with that before..its difficult to write the disks on a linux system when you are installing your only linux system, and rawriteing the disks on a dos/windows system has problems. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with Frozen
On Tue, 13 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: DOS is more forgiving of bad disks than linux is. This is about the only disk problem you might have. The only one I've heard of so far. If you put it on a bad disk use another one. Don't use DOS as aguage of a good disk or bad disk, it might be fine for DOS but not for linux. Be careful when DOS formatting a floppy to see if format reports any bad areas. If so, toss the disk. Compuserve and AOL will be sending you an adequate supply for free in any case. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AX.25:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian setup?
Hello there everyone. I have a couple of questions here tonight. I have been running Slackware for quite some time now, and am thinking of switching over (I amready have Debian 1.2 installed on a spare partition to try it out). One of the questions are -- How much work is involved to upgrade to oh, say 1.3 (when it comes out?) from 1.2? How much of my already configured stuff will I have to re-configure or re-install? If any of you have switched from Slackware to Debian, and would like to share any pointers that may help me along with the switch-over, I would gladly accept them. When is shadow going to be included with the distribution (if it isn't already). I haven't seen it recently on one of the mirrors. Thank you JoKeR -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian setup?
I installed the 1.3 distribution in Frozen it asked me if I wanted shadow passwords ... YES!!! On Mon, 12 May 1997, JoKeR wrote: When is shadow going to be included with the distribution (if it isn't already). I haven't seen it recently on one of the mirrors. Thank you JoKeR -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Complaint about default install
Well it sure sucks that I have to pick through the list of default packages. emacs slipped past me and here I am on the end of a slow dial-up downloading a 5 Meg behemoth that I will never use. :( Sure would be nice if the defaults were a little more dial-up friendly. I would like to not have to worry so much about these little gotchas. George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Complaint about default install
Hit ctrl-C to stop it. recycle to install and answer no to continuing the download of the emacs file. On Mon, 12 May 1997, George Bonser wrote: Well it sure sucks that I have to pick through the list of default packages. emacs slipped past me and here I am on the end of a slow dial-up downloading a 5 Meg behemoth that I will never use. :( Sure would be nice if the defaults were a little more dial-up friendly. I would like to not have to worry so much about these little gotchas. George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problems with Frozen
On Mon, 12 May 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote: Be careful when DOS formatting a floppy to see if format reports any bad areas. If so, toss the disk. Compuserve and AOL will be sending you an adequate supply for free in any case. The disks they send you are junk. Don't bother with them. --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape 4 ...
It's been moved to ftp.netscape.com: /pub/communicator/4.0/4.0b3/unix/other On 12 May 1997, Rob Browning wrote: John Burwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This question may have already been answered, so please excuse me if this redundtant. I have checked the Netscape web and ftp sites, and did not see a version of Netscape Communicator 4 for Linux. I have seen it running in a number of screen shots and read abt in this mailing list. Is there a version for Linux? or which version works under Linux?? You're probably looking in the wrong directory. Its in ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.0b3. You'll probably also want the debian installer package. Get that from unstable/contrib (I think) on any debian ftp site. -- Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Complaint about default install
Thanks ... think I will keep it on the system at this point ... will delete it if space becomes a problem ... somebody, someday might want it. Hit ctrl-C to stop it. recycle to install and answer no to continuing the download of the emacs file. George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
SSH problem?
When I telnet to localhost from localhost I get the following: Trying to negotiate SSL [SSL starting] [SSL Connected - Cipher RC4-MD5] [SSL subject=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [SSL issuer=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Password: Is ther a file similar to /etc/issue.net that I can edit to clean this up? What is this for? Is this some kind of error? Thanks, --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian 1.2 is broken out of the box.
Speaking as someone who has spent lots of spare time over the last few weeks trying to install Debian w/ only limited success, I feel I have earned the right to criticize you Debian folks for not bothering to test your stuff. Did the basic diskette installation that I got from ftp.kernel.org's mirror site. And here is a short list of the stuff that's broken straight out of the box: 1) eepro module does not work w/ Intel Ether Express Pro/10+ (It worked fine when I compiled it under Red Hat) 2) There is no help available at install time for what options are valid and/or required for each ethernet card. I had to guess the options. Red Hat doesn't suffer from this problem, why should Debian? 3) Using a mirror and installing via ftp, I allowed the default selections to be installed. THE DEFAULTS FAIL!! Here is a complete list of DEFAULT packages which won't install right out the box and other mistakes: -inn - requires pgp, but since that's not available, not even as a stub, on US servers, it refuses to install AND, the package description makes no mention of the pgp issue or which servers to get it from or the readme that you carefully put into the bottom drawer of a locked filing cabinet on a planet orbiting alpha-centuri :) (Gratuitous Hitchhiker's Guide reference) -debianutils_1.4.deb - predependency prob. requires libc5>=5.4.17-1 but only 5.4.13-1 installed -base-passwd_2.0-3.deb - predep. probl. requires libreadline2>=2.1 but only 2.0.1-2 installed -libc6_2.0.3-2 - predep. probl. requires ldso>=1.8.10-1 but only 1.8.5-1 installed -hostname_2.01.deb - predep. probl. requires libc5>-5.4.17-1 but only 5.4.13-1 installed -netstd_2.13-1 - predep. probl. requires netbase>=2.08 but only 2.06-1 installed -perl_5.003.07-10 - overwrites files /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.00307/auto/Socket/Socket.so Socket.bs and Config.pm, Find.pm, Basename.pm, Path.pm...etc. which are also in package perl-base. It says that it succeds because --force enabled. However, I wonder what damage is being done. -perl-base - predep. probl. requires libdl1 to be configured but it can't possibly be since this is the DEFAULT and first package installation. -psnfss texpsfnt conflict but --force overcomes this conflict. What damage is being done here?? -The tex setup produces so much output it's useless. -teTeX is NOT the default package, yet, its installation information indicates that it is the successor to all other Tex's and is recommended. Why is the teTeX stuff not installed by default?? -xserver-vga16 allows you to install w/o requiring all the essential fonts. It fails during configuration when it goes looking for its 75dpi fonts. I overcame this by going back and installing every X font package in sight. Still, it's BROKEN! I already sent mail to package maintainer. 4) dselect uses the power of perl to create an installation package worthy of DOS shell script. Basically, the logic chart of dselect is: DEPENDENCIES SATISFIED -- YES -- > install | | -- NO -- > THROW A FIT The proper way to do things is to keep pitching stuff that can't immediately be installed to the end of the list so that prerequisites have a chance to be installed and configured. Should be easy enough to do. At least you picked the right tool :) 5) Any upgrades of dselect or dpkg should be done FIRST so that other packages which depend on the installation program knowing what is going on won't fail. 6) dselect uses perl to install. However any problems during a perl installation (as happened to me previously ) and dselect now fails. This is BAD, VERY BAD. dselect and dpkg are supposed to be the means to correct installation problems and they should not be affected by installation problems, especially perl which is non-trivial. I would suggest a protected copy of perl be included with upgrades of dselect. 7) Debian should really request that their description on www.linux.org be changed to: "Debian is maintained by 120 voluteers who can't be bothered to test their stuff." And you may think this is cruel, but Microsoft is still winning and I have a bad feeling about Red Hat. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Message for Dale Scheetz and sendmail question for list
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: You should see something like the following in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: # Alias for this host Cw I have: Cwbraincells.com # Virtual email domain # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) DMyourdomain.com I have: # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) (see also $=M) DMbraincells.com # Smart host DSmail.yourISP.net I have: # Use this mailer to reach the Smart host DNesmtp The only line I have that begins with Dn is: # my name for error messages DnMAILER-DAEMON The only line that mentions esmtp is: # SMTP daemon options #O DaemonPortOptions=Port=esmtp As you can see, it's commented out. # Smart relay host (may be null) DS Hmm...what is a smart host anyway? As far as I know my mail comes directly to braincells.com not forwarded from the upstream ISP. # Central host for local mail DHlocalhost I have: # who gets all local email traffic ($R has precedence for unqualified names) DH Is any of this significant? Thanks for your help. -- Jaldhar -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Message for Dale Scheetz and sendmail question for list
On Mon, 12 May 1997, Nicola Bernardelli wrote: (I think I'm not giving any help... anyway:) I've left it blank but it uses smail (pine 3.95q, Debian 1.2.4), not sendmail... or better: 1) I have smail installed and not sendmail, 2) that field in pine configuration is blank, 3) changing configuration of smail DOES change the results, both for local delivery and for mail to be sent over the Internet via dialup PPP to my ISP. As Rick says, pine actually calls sendmail which in your case is symlinked to smail. So I think sendmail is the cause of my problem not pine. Though I do think it is suspicious this only occurred after I upgraded pine... -- Jaldhar -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian 1.2 is broken out of the box.
I'm only one person on this list that isn't going to bother trying to decypher this HTML message to see what you are complaining about. Sending a message to a linux mailing list in HTML format isn't the brightest thing I've ever seen. If it's any indication of the content, I suspect that others will send this to /dev/null as well. On Tue, 13 May 1997, Jim wrote: HTML Speaking as someone who has spent lots of spare time over the last few weeks trying to install Debian BRw/ only limited success, I feel I have earned the right to criticize you Debian folks for not bothering BRto test your stuff. PDid the basic diskette installation that I got from ftp.kernel.org's mirror site. BRAnd here is a short list of the stuff that's broken straight out of the box: P1) eepro module does not work w/ Intel Ether Express Pro/10+ (It worked fine when I compiled it under BRRed Hat) BR2) There is no help available at install time for what options are valid and/or required for each ethernet BRcard.nbsp; I had to guess the options.nbsp; Red Hat doesn't suffer from this problem, why should Debian? BR3) Using a mirror and installing via ftp, I allowed the default selections to be installed.nbsp; THE DEFAULTS FAIL!! BRHere is a complete list of DEFAULT packages which won't install right out the box and other mistakes: P-inn - requires pgp, but since that's not available, not even as a stub, on US servers, it refuses to install BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; AND, the package description makes no mention of the pgp issue or which servers to get it from or BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; the readme that you carefully put into the bottom drawer of a locked filing cabinet on a planet orbiting BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; alpha-centuri :) (Gratuitous Hitchhiker's Guide reference) BR-debianutils_1.4.deb - predependency prob. requires libc5=5.4.17-1 but only 5.4.13-1 installed BR-base-passwd_2.0-3.deb - predep. probl. requires libreadline2=2.1 but only 2.0.1-2 installed BR-libc6_2.0.3-2 - predep. probl. requires ldso=1.8.10-1 but only 1.8.5-1 installed BR-hostname_2.01.deb - predep. probl. requires libc5-5.4.17-1 but only 5.4.13-1 installed BR-netstd_2.13-1 - predep. probl. requires netbase=2.08 but only 2.06-1 installed BR-perl_5.003.07-10 - overwrites files /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.00307/auto/Socket/Socket.so Socket.bs and BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Config.pm, Find.pm, Basename.pm, Path.pm...etc.nbsp; which are also in package perl-base.nbsp; It says that it succeds BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; because --force enabled.nbsp; However, I wonder what damage is being done. BR-perl-base - predep. probl. requires libdl1 to be configured but it can't possibly be since this is the DEFAULT and BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; first package installation. BR-psnfss amp; texpsfnt conflict but --force overcomes this conflict.nbsp; What damage is being done here?? BR-The tex setup produces so much output it's useless. BR-teTeX is NOT the default package, yet, its installation information indicates that it is the successor to all other BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Tex's and is recommended.nbsp; Why is the teTeX stuff not installed by default?? BR-xserver-vga16 allows you to install w/o requiring all the essential fonts.nbsp; It fails during configuration when it goes BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; looking for its 75dpi fonts.nbsp; I overcame this by going back and installing every X font package in sight.nbsp; Still, it's BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; BROKEN!nbsp; I already sent mail to package maintainer. P4) dselect uses the power of perl to create an installation package worthy of DOS shell script.nbsp; Basically, the BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; logic chart of dselect is: Pnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; DEPENDENCIES SATISFIED -- YES -- install BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; | BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; | -- NO -- THROW A FIT PThe proper way to do things is to keep pitching stuff that can't immediately be installed to the end of the list so that BRprerequisites have a chance to be installed and configured.nbsp; Should be easy enough to do.nbsp; At least you picked the BRright tool :) P5) Any upgrades of dselect or dpkg should be done FIRST so that other packages which depend on the installation BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; program knowing what is going on won't fail. P6) dselect uses perl to install.nbsp; However any problems during a perl installation (as happened to me previously ) and dselect now fails.nbsp; This is BAD, VERY BAD.nbsp; dselect and dpkg are supposed to be the means to correct installation BRproblems and they should not be affected by installation problems, especially perl which is non-trivial.nbsp; I would suggest a BRprotected copy of perl be included with upgrades of dselect. P7) Debian should really request that their description on www.linux.org be changed to: PDebian is maintained by 120 voluteers who can't be bothered to test their stuff. PAnd you may think this is cruel, but Microsoft is still winning and I have a bad
Re: failed installation of 1.2 on thinkpad. Tips?
As others have noted, the Debian 1.1 disks work for installation on Thinkpads. That is how I originally bootstrapped mine. Apologies if this has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread, but I believe that the culprit is the bzImage kernel format. When compiling a custom kernel for my Thinkpad 760ED, I had to make sure that I used make zImage rather than make bzImage or I could never get it to boot. This means that you have to take care not to let the kernel proper get too big, so don't include anything you don't need and make everything a module that you can. I assume that the 1.1 disks use zImage and the 1.2 and onward disks use bzImage, which would explain why the old disks work. -- Robert Coie Implementor, Intrigue Ltd. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian 1.2 is broken out of the box.
Hmmm, I could not see the original with my basic pine setup but I could finally see the message in your reply. If this fellow has been struggling for weeks trying to get the basic system installed, my guess is that he has not been reading the instructions. It is not something that can be figured out as you go along for the first time user. Suggestions: Once you get the partitions built and the base disks installed, run dselect but DO NOT PICK any additional programs other then what is preselected the first time through. If you are installing over FTP, you might have to cycle through the install/setup a few times to get everything installed. You might want to remove some of the larger programs (like emacs ... you can install them later if you need them). I have had problems this evening with the FTP connection freezing and timing out causing me to have to recycle through the install option of the dselect menu. Once you have the preselected stuff downloaded, installed, and configured, run dselect again to pick up the other software that you want. Take one thing at a time. Get the network running if you have one. Get your news and mail working in text mode first. Get PPP working. Then worry about X. Do not try to do too nuch all at once. Break it up into a series of phases and get one thing working before you try to move on to the next thing. Trying to do to much at once will likely swamp a newbie in so many error messages that he might not know where to start. Take it slow. On Tue, 13 May 1997, Jim wrote: HTML Speaking as someone who has spent lots of spare time over the last few weeks trying to install Debian BRw/ only limited success, I feel I have earned the right to criticize you Debian folks for not bothering BRto test your stuff. PDid the basic diskette installation that I got from ftp.kernel.org's mirror site. BRAnd here is a short list of the stuff that's broken straight out of the box: P1) eepro module does not work w/ Intel Ether Express Pro/10+ (It worked fine when I compiled it under BRRed Hat) BR2) There is no help available at install time for what options are valid and/or required for each ethernet BRcard.nbsp; I had to guess the options.nbsp; Red Hat doesn't suffer from this problem, why should Debian? BR3) Using a mirror and installing via ftp, I allowed the default selections to be installed.nbsp; THE DEFAULTS FAIL!! BRHere is a complete list of DEFAULT packages which won't install right out the box and other mistakes: P-inn - requires pgp, but since that's not available, not even as a stub, on US servers, it refuses to install BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; AND, the package description makes no mention of the pgp issue or which servers to get it from or BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; the readme that you carefully put into the bottom drawer of a locked filing cabinet on a planet orbiting BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; alpha-centuri :) (Gratuitous Hitchhiker's Guide reference) BR-debianutils_1.4.deb - predependency prob. requires libc5=5.4.17-1 but only 5.4.13-1 installed BR-base-passwd_2.0-3.deb - predep. probl. requires libreadline2=2.1 but only 2.0.1-2 installed BR-libc6_2.0.3-2 - predep. probl. requires ldso=1.8.10-1 but only 1.8.5-1 installed BR-hostname_2.01.deb - predep. probl. requires libc5-5.4.17-1 but only 5.4.13-1 installed BR-netstd_2.13-1 - predep. probl. requires netbase=2.08 but only 2.06-1 installed BR-perl_5.003.07-10 - overwrites files /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.00307/auto/Socket/Socket.so Socket.bs and BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Config.pm, Find.pm, Basename.pm, Path.pm...etc.nbsp; which are also in package perl-base.nbsp; It says that it succeds BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; because --force enabled.nbsp; However, I wonder what damage is being done. BR-perl-base - predep. probl. requires libdl1 to be configured but it can't possibly be since this is the DEFAULT and BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; first package installation. BR-psnfss amp; texpsfnt conflict but --force overcomes this conflict.nbsp; What damage is being done here?? BR-The tex setup produces so much output it's useless. BR-teTeX is NOT the default package, yet, its installation information indicates that it is the successor to all other BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Tex's and is recommended.nbsp; Why is the teTeX stuff not installed by default?? BR-xserver-vga16 allows you to install w/o requiring all the essential fonts.nbsp; It fails during configuration when it goes BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; looking for its 75dpi fonts.nbsp; I overcame this by going back and installing every X font package in sight.nbsp; Still, it's BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; BROKEN!nbsp; I already sent mail to package maintainer. P4) dselect uses the power of perl to create an installation package worthy of DOS shell script.nbsp; Basically, the BRnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; logic chart of dselect is: Pnbsp;nbsp;nbsp; DEPENDENCIES SATISFIED -- YES -- install
Re: Debian as a server.
Thanks, really. Thank you very much for your comprehensive good news! Andreas. : I use Debian Linux boxes for nearly all important (i.e. can't afford any : downtime) internet related servers. I also use it as the main Windows : SMB file server (with samba) at my main job. : : Linux's reliability can't be beat, especially if the core kernel is : surrounded by an excellent quality distribution like debian. ... : In fact, my experiences over the last 4 or 5 years have convinced me : beyond *any* doubt that commercial software vendors can NOT even begin : to approach either the stability OR the speed of development cycle which : freeware community-developed systems like Linux have. : : New features are developed and debugged in about a tenth of the time on : Linuxmostly because of the huge number of enthusiastic volunteers, : and partly because the development is driven by tech-heads who (mostly : :-) know what they're doing rather than by marketing-droids who probably : can't even set the clock on their VCRs. : : Craig -- Uni Wuppertal, FB Elektrotechnik, Tel/Fax: (0202) 439 - 3009 Dr. Andreas Wehler; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian as a server.
I missed the original messages but I will add my $.02 worth here. I have used Debian as a server for a lightly used home LAN and SMTP -- UUCP mail and news gateway for about 9 months. SOme of the things that I am most pleased with are the continuing upgrades and ease of upgrading, stability, and the configuration of the packages. For the most part, software is in a standard configuration that conforms to the author's documentation and files are located in accordance with the Linux Filesystem Standard making things easy to find when you need to. The Debian system also uses samba for acting as the LAN print server. It is also the SMTP and POP mail gateway and a news server for local machines as well as providing mail and news for UUCP neighbors. All of this functionality would cost a fortune from Microsoft and I would probably spend many hours on the telephone with them trying to get things to work if my employer's NT network is any example. With the addition of shadow password support in 1.3, I have chosen Debian over Caldera Open Linux - Standard for a system that will have a permanent high-speed connection to the internet. NOTE that I like Caldera ... it is just that their software has not yet arrived and I am under a time constraint. You can always grab a copy of Debian ... even if it isn't ready yet, there are always folks here to lend a hand in getting me over the rough spots. This favor is returned when possible. Debian is not point and click or plug and play but then again, neither are the operating systems that claim to be, really. On Tue, 13 May 1997, Dr. Andreas Wehler wrote: Thanks, really. Thank you very much for your comprehensive good news! Andreas. : I use Debian Linux boxes for nearly all important (i.e. can't afford any : downtime) internet related servers. I also use it as the main Windows : SMB file server (with samba) at my main job. : ... George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Hanging diald connections
Francois == Francois Gouget [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Francois Are you using PPP with a dynamically assigned address? Yes I am. Francois I suspect that the first packet gets sent with the FROM IP Francois address being that of the serial device and not the address Francois that was assigned to the PPP link when it came up. Sounds plausible and fixable. ---+-- Christian Lynbech | Computer Science Department, University of Aarhus Office: R0.32 | Ny Munkegade, Building 540, DK-8000 Aarhus C Phone: +45 8942 3218 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- www.daimi.aau.dk/~lynbech ---+-- Hit the philistines three times over the head with the Elisp reference manual. - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael A. Petonic) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
dselect X-front-end?
Is there a xwindows-front-end of dselect? I just wondered because Redhat has such a cute tool for setting up/installing the system made with Tcl/tk. Im quite into tcl now so maybe I would do a front-end... Gernot - Gernot Bauer University of Linz, Austria eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The answer is yes - me. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: InfoMagic's new LDR
Hi, I've been a buildmaster making deliveries for commercial products in the past and religiously followed a build--install-clean-and -test-before-delivery method. (See summary at end.) start ramble [ ramble sounds good to me ] end ramble You're responsible for what you deliver--they're responsible to faithfully reproduce what you point them at. You might be responsible to verify a master CD before it goes to press. I just looked at another tiny point: $ df /cdrom Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/hdd 663260 6632600100% /cdrom Does anyone know how much fits on one CD? I'd guess this one (InfoMagic's Debian CD) is quite close to the limit. On the CD there is a project directory: $ du project/ 13393 project/experimental 640 project/misc 14036 project I guess this could be done away with. If you want to use experimental stuff, you probably should get updates from the internet quite regularly. Imo, a CD should be a solid, working set of packages that you can rely upon. In the README.cds file in the root, it specifies which files to omit when making a one-CD distribution of the stable release. I think the project directory should be omitted. However, as it stands, it won't be possible anymore to put Debian on one CD within a short period of time. It should probably be suggested to put binary and source directories on separate CD-s. Also it appears possible that the current omissions are due to the fact that these packages simply didn't fit on the disk. In that case, Infomagic should have noticed it. Any thoughts on this one? Eric Meijer E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Digitizing tablets
Are digitizing tablets supported? Does linux allow the use of a digitizing tablet as a surrogate mouse? What drawing programs make good use of tablets? Alan Davis -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Voice: (670) 235-6580 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands ---===+++#+++===--- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dselect X-front-end?
Wolfgang Bauer (WS) wrote: Is there a xwindows-front-end of dselect? I just wondered because Redhat has such a cute tool for setting up/installing the system made with Tcl/tk. It would be nice to have a tcl/tk program as an extention to dselect. Once you have installed your system you could run the tcl/tk program to either add/remove packages or to configure existing packages. This could be tied in to the existing documentation about each package allowing the user to know what the possible configurations are (and what will happen if they change them). I would feel that this sort of tool would be invaluable for the novice user of Linux and would help convince others to switch to Linux. -- John Stevenson 3rd Yr BSc Soft. Eng. ** Staff/Student Representative ** E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.ncl.ac.uk/~n4215605 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
post news periodically, how?
Hi, Is it possible to post the same news to newsgroups automatically and periodically, say bi-weekly? Lawrence, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
CD organization (was Re: InfoMagic's new LDR)
RE: this product in general: What would be expected? The product contains multiple distributions and is not oriented towards Debian. The vendor has quite a range of products. Those who want Debian Linux should get it from vendors who use Debian, like Debian, advocate Debian, breathe Debian, eat Debian, and even dream Debian. I see that one vendor (not Debian-oriented) is now offering a weekly release for $35. My answer to this is to offer a fresh for much less. By fresh I mean that I will freeze the mirror as often as possible. Usually daily, but you can't always count on the ftp sites you mirror from. On Tue, 13 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just looked at another tiny point: $ df /cdrom Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/hdd 663260 6632600100% /cdrom Does anyone know how much fits on one CD? I'd guess this one 681984000 bytes raw / 1024 = 666000 blocks there is some overhead used for the iso9660 filesystem (InfoMagic's Debian CD) is quite close to the limit. On the CD there is a project directory: I guess this could be done away with. If you want to use experimental stuff, you probably should get updates from the internet quite People who want source/experimental/developmental CD's want them in order to save space and bandwidth regularly. Imo, a CD should be a solid, working set of packages that you can rely upon. In the README.cds file in the root, it specifies which files to omit when making a one-CD distribution of the stable release. I think the project directory should be omitted. However, as it stands, it won't be possible anymore to put Debian on one CD within a short period of time. It should probably be suggested to put binary and source directories on separate CD-s. Also it appears possible that the current omissions are due to the fact that these packages simply didn't fit on the disk. In that case, Infomagic should have noticed it. Any thoughts on this one? Yes, it is better to have more available packages even if it requires a second CD. But dependencies have to be analyzed to organize a CD set. If people have problems installing packages because a depency is on the unmounted volume, this list will get busier. CD 1 boot/install/base - Put everything on this for installing a new system or upgrading the base packages of an existing one. Multiple releases and target architectures could probably fit on this. CD 2 binary packagemaster - Put the rest of the binaries here for a target platform. The idea is that after basics are taken care of, this one has all the stuff that dselect/dpkg looks for. Now fill in the remaining space on CD 1 and 2 with miscellaneous extras CD n.. Additional source, docs, etc. thought - Perhaps the new dselect will go through a collection/unpack phase which will allow a mix of CD's, already downloaded updates, and ftp access. I considered the symlink approach, but think that a database would work best. This would also help for the creation of customized package sets. I would like the idea of putting good skeletal package sets on a CD and ftp site for typical orientations (webserver, lanserver, workstation, router/gateway, etc). thought - I suppose that machines like the Alpha compile very fast. If we had a dselect install and build from source option, then fast platforms would need fewer precompiled target binaries. They would use the universal source CD for adding packages. Along this line, my 386 takes hours to build a kernel. I wouldn't be happy if this was the only machine I had and I received a distribution that was source oriented. I usually create Debian packages on faster machines and then install the binaries on the slower ones. afterthought - the previously mentioned collection/unpack phase would help in 2 other ways: binary-all might be on the other CD unstable contains symlinks to frozen and/or stable (other CD) +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.greenbush.com/ + +--+ + http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide! + +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Digitizing tablets
On Tue, 13 May 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are digitizing tablets supported? Does linux allow the use of a digitizing tablet as a surrogate mouse? What drawing programs make good use of tablets? The S3 Xserver in the XFree relese included with Debian 1.2 do have support for some Wacom and others. You have to switch betwen the mouse and the table manualy :(. I dont know about the other X-Servers (Sorry, I am not at my debian box so I have no details. Do You have a tablet? In that case, tell the list what model. I use GIMP, a real good paint program. I have not got it to use the tablets Z (pessure) parameter jet (have not tryed jet) and dont know if it is possably. More irritated about the manuel switch betwin tablet and mouse as my tablet only have two buttons :(. HTH (some) /Lars Alan Davis -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Voice: (670) 235-6580 Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands ---===+++#+++===--- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . / / _/_ _/_ Välkommen till Micro++ Lars Hallberg /\_/\ / /WWW-hemsida [EMAIL PROTECTED] / Micro++http://www.micropp.se/ http://www.micropp.se/lah/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Linux Standard File System
I've seen references a couple of times to something like a Linux Standard File System (of course, now I can't quite locate the document(s) where I saw it). Is that a document that exists somewhere like HOWTO or similar? A pointer would be appreciated. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
It works!(was Re: 'talk' does not work)
Thanks Jens, It is great! Eugene. On Mon, 12 May 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Eugene Sevinian wrote: As I know in order to allow some service to work I should put corresponding string in /etc/hosts.allow and now it looks like : in.ftpd: ALL in.telnetd: ALL in.rlogind: ALL in.talkd: ALL in.fingerd: ALL However everything is working but 'talk'. It hangs with: [Checking for invitation on caller's machine]. What did I do wrong? Thank you in advance, You're almost there. Add another line to /etc/hosts.allow: in.ntalkd: ALL 8) debian talk uses the new talk protocol, not the old. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eugene Sevinian Cosmic Ray Division Yerevan Phisics Institute Alikhanian's Brothers str.2 375036 Yerevan 36 Armenia URL: http://www.yerphi.am/crd/prs/sevinian.html Phone: 374-2-352041 (YerPhI), 374-2-344873 (aprt.) Fax: 374-2-350030 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Linux Standard File System
On May 13, Brent Hutto wrote I've seen references a couple of times to something like a Linux Standard File System (of course, now I can't quite locate the document(s) where I saw it). Is that a document that exists somewhere like HOWTO or similar? A pointer would be appreciated. You're looking for the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard), formerly known as FSSTND (Linux Filesystem Standard); Dan Quinlan maintains its homepage at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: magicfilter entry for pdf files?
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On Mon, 12 May 1997, Mark W. Blunier wrote:
Incidentally, I found another message today:
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To make printing work from acroread, I had to add the following line
/Default currenthalftone /Halftone defineresource pop
at the end of the file /usr/share/ghostscript/4.03/gs_init.ps.
Great little patch, but I found that printing directly from .pdf files,
e.g.
gs -sDEVICE=ljet2p -dFirstPage=2 -dLastPage=10 \
-sOutputFile=ofile pdf-file
was broke. Therefore I made made the above conditionally:
/Default /Halftone resourcestatus { pop pop }
{ /Default currenthalftone /Halftone defineresource pop } ifelse
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This seems to suggest that the problem is a bug in Acroread, and not
gs, but the gs_init.ps file is a work around.
Could you correct me if I am wrong in this line of reasoning: Acroread
coverts pdf files to ps files but does so in an incorrect manner and
therefore (because acroread source is unavailable) gs is altered to make
up for the bug in acroread and then all goes as planned. I think I am
correct about this but it leaves the question: Can't you use gv to print
pdf files and therefore (1) avoid altering gs for acroread's shortcomings,
and (2) use all free software? Cheers, Colin.
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School of Policy Studies, Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario, Canada, K7L-3N6
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Re: Help- fdisking large IDEs for Win95/Debian
On Mon, 12 May 1997, Ken Gaugler wrote: Having moved my Debian system from a 850Meg IDE to a 1.2 Gig IDE that had been previously used for Win95 [I know, but I _have_ to use Win95 for certain apps], it appears that the partition table is really messed up. Using LBA in the BIOS settings, Debian seems to be happy with it, but DOS/Win95 doesn't report the sizes correctly. If I use Extended CHS for the BIOS, DOS/WIn95 is happy but Debian is not. Sounds as if you're just casually switching between ECHS and LBA. This is very risky, from what I understand. You could mangle the whole disk contents if you're unlucky. Perhaps it might be worth reading the EIDE ATA FAQ whose home page is http://thef-nym.sci.kun.nl/~pieterh/storage.html At this point I am beginning to think that for a 2-disk system, I should make the first one Win95 exclusively, and make the second one strictly a Linux disk (and use LBA on the Linux disk). That's what I'm doing at the moment, but I don't think my methods will apply because my Win95 disks are a mere 170MB (the University gives these away nowadays) and my Linux disks are SCSI. -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SSH problem?
Rick Jones wrote: When I telnet to localhost from localhost I get the following: Trying to negotiate SSL [SSL starting] [SSL Connected - Cipher RC4-MD5] [SSL subject=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [SSL issuer=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Password: Is ther a file similar to /etc/issue.net that I can edit to clean this up? What is this for? Is this some kind of error? Isn't that the ssltelnet diag messages? Maybe the telnet you're using isn't the telnet you think it is (but rather ssltelnet). -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SSH problem?
This is generally construed as a feature. It is telling you that a) you installed SSLtelnet and that b) it has successfully connected to a system that also has SSLtelnet. What just happened is that public keys were exchanged and everything from that point on is encrypted. Guess what? No more password sniffing attacks! You wouldn't want to turn off those messages, because they assure the user that encryption ins being used. As far as how to get the actual /etc/issue file to be displayed, I wish I knew. I haven't read through the docs thoroughly yet. Of course, since you're telnetting to yourself it's not too useful yet, but if more people ran SSLtelnet (or ssh) we'd be that much closer towards closing another security hole. BTW, SSL stands for Secure Socket Layer. It's quite cool, imho. -- Nathan Norman:Hostmaster CFNI:[EMAIL PROTECTED] finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key and other stuff Key fingerprint = CE 03 10 AF 32 81 18 58 9D 32 C2 AB 93 6D C4 72 -- On Tue, 13 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: :When I telnet to localhost from localhost I get the following: : :Trying to negotiate SSL :[SSL starting] :[SSL Connected - Cipher RC4-MD5] :[SSL :subject=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] :[SSL :issuer=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Password: : :Is ther a file similar to /etc/issue.net that I can edit to clean this up? :What is this for? Is this some kind of error? : :Thanks, : : : :--Rick : :[EMAIL PROTECTED] : : :-- :TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to :[EMAIL PROTECTED] . :Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . : -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dselect X-front-end?
Is there a xwindows-front-end of dselect? I just wondered because Redhat has such a cute tool for setting up/installing the system made with Tcl/tk. Something like that is in the works as part of the deity project. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SSH problem?
I wanted to know if there is a way to clean that up so it's displayed in some kind of format, instead of being spewed on the screen like that? I know it's ssltelnet. For some reason I was thinking it came in the ssh package. Now that you have corrected me I remember it was a seperate package. On Tue, 13 May 1997, Nathan E Norman wrote: This is generally construed as a feature. It is telling you that a) you installed SSLtelnet and that b) it has successfully connected to a system that also has SSLtelnet. What just happened is that public keys were exchanged and everything from that point on is encrypted. Guess what? No more password sniffing attacks! You wouldn't want to turn off those messages, because they assure the user that encryption ins being used. As far as how to get the actual /etc/issue file to be displayed, I wish I knew. I haven't read through the docs thoroughly yet. Of course, since you're telnetting to yourself it's not too useful yet, but if more people ran SSLtelnet (or ssh) we'd be that much closer towards closing another security hole. BTW, SSL stands for Secure Socket Layer. It's quite cool, imho. -- Nathan Norman:Hostmaster CFNI:[EMAIL PROTECTED] finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key and other stuff Key fingerprint = CE 03 10 AF 32 81 18 58 9D 32 C2 AB 93 6D C4 72 -- On Tue, 13 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: :When I telnet to localhost from localhost I get the following: : :Trying to negotiate SSL :[SSL starting] :[SSL Connected - Cipher RC4-MD5] :[SSL :subject=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] :[SSL :issuer=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Password: : :Is ther a file similar to /etc/issue.net that I can edit to clean this up? :What is this for? Is this some kind of error? : :Thanks, : : : :--Rick : :[EMAIL PROTECTED] : : :-- :TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to :[EMAIL PROTECTED] . :Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . : --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
printcap for SUN Solaris 2.0
I am using /etc/printcap under SUN-OS and I'd like to export this file onto SUN SOLARIS 2.0. Which file should I write this to? Is there any changes to make? Thanks, -- Mr. Guerlain APPRIOU Tel: -work: 0171 417 8880 ext. 121 -home: 0171 387 9135 Homepage: http://www.cs.bris.ac.uk/~appriou/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xdm-screen 16 bit?
Hi, what do I have to change if I want the xdm-login and all further screens to be at least 16 bit (when I dont use xdm I get the right screen depth with xinit -- -bpp 16 but how does this work with xdm)? Thanx, Gernot - Gernot Bauer University of Linz, Austria eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The answer is yes - me. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: help: mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered
Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Terrence M. Brannon wrote: I get the above error on my Debian system when I try to mount NFS disks on a Solaris system. How can I possibly fix this? Are you sure rpc.mountd and nfsd are running on the remote system? Try 'rpcinfo -p slowlaris-system'. You should see mountd and nfsd in the output. mountd and *nfs* not nfsd are running on the solaris system. Here are the failure reports I get back from my cron job: masterOrderNum: RPC: Procedure unavailable masterOrderNum: RPC: Procedure unavailable masterOrderNum: RPC: Procedure unavailable masterOrderNum: RPC: Procedure unavailable [EMAIL PROTECTED] /felix/brannon : rpcinfo -p quake program vers proto port 104 tcp111 portmapper 103 tcp111 portmapper 102 tcp111 portmapper 104 udp111 portmapper 103 udp111 portmapper 102 udp111 portmapper 1003003 udp727 nisd 1003003 tcp728 nisd 173 udp 32775 ypbind 172 udp 32775 ypbind 171 udp 32775 ypbind 173 tcp 32771 ypbind 172 tcp 32771 ypbind 171 tcp 32771 ypbind 142 udp727 ypserv 142 tcp728 ypserv 141 udp727 ypserv 141 tcp728 ypserv 100087 10 udp 32791 admind 1000111 udp 32792 rquotad 1000121 udp 32793 sprayd 112 udp 32794 rstatd 113 udp 32794 rstatd 114 udp 32794 rstatd 1000682 udp 32795 1000683 udp 32795 1000684 udp 32795 1000241 udp 32806 status 1000241 tcp 32783 status 1000211 udp 32807 nlockmgr 1000211 tcp 32784 nlockmgr 1000213 udp 32807 nlockmgr 1000213 tcp 32784 nlockmgr 1000202 udp 4045 llockmgr 1000202 tcp 4045 llockmgr 1000212 udp 32807 nlockmgr 1000212 tcp 32784 nlockmgr 151 udp 32872 mountd 132 udp 2049 nfs 152 udp 32872 mountd 151 tcp 32786 mountd 152 tcp 32786 mountd 1000261 udp 32876 bootparam 1000261 tcp 32787 bootparam 1000831 udp956 1000831 tcp957 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /felix/brannon : -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- oo Sending unsolicited commercial e-mail (UCE) to this address Legal Notice is indication of your consent to pay me $120/hour for 1 hour oo minimum for professional proofreading technical assessment. terrence brannon * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://rana.usc.edu:8376/~brannon -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xdm-screen 16 bit?
On Tue, 13 May 1997, Gernot Bauer wrote: Hi, what do I have to change if I want the xdm-login and all further screens to be at least 16 bit (when I dont use xdm I get the right screen depth with xinit -- -bpp 16 but how does this work with xdm)? Change the entry in your /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file to :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -bpp 16 Regards Rolf -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xdm-screen 16 bit?
On May 13, Rolf Obrecht wrote On Tue, 13 May 1997, Gernot Bauer wrote: what do I have to change if I want the xdm-login and all further screens to be at least 16 bit (when I dont use xdm I get the right screen depth with xinit -- -bpp 16 but how does this work with xdm)? Change the entry in your /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file to :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -bpp 16 Or, generically, set DefaultColorDepth 16 in the Screen section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config. Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re: InfoMagic's new LDR
Even better would be a tool for the end user with ftp/http capability to compare his CD against the current image over the internet and pick up any updates automatically. How about something that built a symlink tree on the HD with all symlinks initially pointing to the CD copy of each file, then using a directory with timestamps and CRC's update the files that differ? You might also want a brute-force approach that re-read the file's sizes and timestamps at both ends like the perl mirror program so the same thing would work for other CD distributions that didn't have a matching directory file or if you suspect those files are corrupt. Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like just to add one thing to it, it'll be confortable (at least for me) that the mirroring can be done from another computer. I'll explain better: you che the Packages file on a PC connected to internet, bring it to a PC not connected to the net, the script will determine the files changed, missing or corrupt from the distribution at home, write a list to a file or even genarate a script. Bring it then to the first PC connected to the net and get the packages files through ftp, substitue at the second PC. It looks complicated and clumsy but will help people (like me :) ) that don't have a PC connected to the internet but can connect from another PC to update their off-line system automaticaly. Just an idea, Simone Portuesi -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
bison C++
Hi. The bison package for debian is not capable of producing C++ code. Anyone knows of such a (free) package like bison with C++ support? Thanks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: printcap for SUN Solaris 2.0
Guerlain Appriou wrote: I am using /etc/printcap under SUN-OS and I'd like to export this file onto SUN SOLARIS 2.0. Which file should I write this to? Is there any changes to make? 1) This is a Debian Linux list, not a SunOS/Solaris list. 2) In answer to your query, printing is *completely* different between SunOS/Solaris. SunOS uses the BSD LPR style of printing while Solaris uses a heinous (SVR4-derived, I think) style of printing where you have to run all kinds of commands--I don't think there's a single file to edit to tell you the truth. I don't envy you--I had to transition and it wasn't fun. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xdm-screen 16 bit?
Gernot Bauer wrote: Hi, what do I have to change if I want the xdm-login and all further screens to be at least 16 bit (when I dont use xdm I get the right screen depth with xinit -- -bpp 16 but how does this work with xdm)? /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers contains the list of local servers to be managed by xdm (unless you changed something). It has the command-lines which are used to start up the servers. Add the '-bpp 16' to the command line. For instance, in my /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers, I have a line: :0 DEC-P90 local /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_S3 :0 Which would change to :0 DEC-P90 local /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_S3 :0 -bpp 16 to have 16 bits-per-pixel. Yes, my friend, had you Read The Fine xdm Manpage you would have easily discovered the answer. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SSH problem?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 13 May 1997, Rick Jones wrote: When I telnet to localhost from localhost I get the following: Trying to negotiate SSL [SSL starting] [SSL Connected - Cipher RC4-MD5] [SSL subject=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [SSL issuer=/O=cyberdynamics.com/OU=panther/CN=telnetd/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Password: Is ther a file similar to /etc/issue.net that I can edit to clean this up? What is this for? Is this some kind of error? Actually, these are the SSL negotiation messages from the ssltelnet package that you have obviously installed. I don't know any way of disabling them, they tell you that you have connected with a SSL secured path and that the telnet traffic is being encrypted. ++ | Scott K. Ellis | Argue for your limitations and | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | sure enough, they're yours. | ||-- Illusions | ++ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM3iYAtH31Ek1qsc9AQEpNwQAs970n/PYgDEiYpN0JQHwnMDFUCcvTx9N jhV77lVN9k5mdARq47gYvVSEGrrWNpUBoIjc9ROGRmBSik/0rf8qyzrjWFKpmqHN FBm4MSouHgxg09BHzRqs81Los9eqgRjnWPQOvbIYd9gQPAtoAB+MnA+Sl5VigJs+ Jct9LrIY1zQ= =qBL2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: help: mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered
Terrence M. Brannon wrote: Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Terrence M. Brannon wrote: I get the above error on my Debian system when I try to mount NFS disks on a Solaris system. How can I possibly fix this? Are you sure rpc.mountd and nfsd are running on the remote system? Try 'rpcinfo -p slowlaris-system'. You should see mountd and nfsd in the output. mountd and *nfs* not nfsd are running on the solaris system. Here are the failure reports I get back from my cron job: masterOrderNum: RPC: Procedure unavailable masterOrderNum: RPC: Procedure unavailable masterOrderNum: RPC: Procedure unavailable masterOrderNum: RPC: Procedure unavailable [EMAIL PROTECTED] /felix/brannon : rpcinfo -p quake program vers proto port 104 tcp111 portmapper 103 tcp111 portmapper 102 tcp111 portmapper 104 udp111 portmapper 103 udp111 portmapper 102 udp111 portmapper 1003003 udp727 nisd 1003003 tcp728 nisd 173 udp 32775 ypbind 172 udp 32775 ypbind 171 udp 32775 ypbind 173 tcp 32771 ypbind 172 tcp 32771 ypbind 171 tcp 32771 ypbind 142 udp727 ypserv 142 tcp728 ypserv 141 udp727 ypserv 141 tcp728 ypserv 100087 10 udp 32791 admind 1000111 udp 32792 rquotad 1000121 udp 32793 sprayd 112 udp 32794 rstatd 113 udp 32794 rstatd 114 udp 32794 rstatd 1000682 udp 32795 1000683 udp 32795 1000684 udp 32795 1000241 udp 32806 status 1000241 tcp 32783 status 1000211 udp 32807 nlockmgr 1000211 tcp 32784 nlockmgr 1000213 udp 32807 nlockmgr 1000213 tcp 32784 nlockmgr 1000202 udp 4045 llockmgr 1000202 tcp 4045 llockmgr 1000212 udp 32807 nlockmgr 1000212 tcp 32784 nlockmgr 151 udp 32872 mountd 132 udp 2049 nfs 152 udp 32872 mountd 151 tcp 32786 mountd 152 tcp 32786 mountd 1000261 udp 32876 bootparam 1000261 tcp 32787 bootparam 1000831 udp956 1000831 tcp957 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /felix/brannon : Well, they sure are running. I don't know what could be wrong. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Problems adding swap files
Hello! I'm having some difficulty creating special swapfiles to be able to test swapping to/from an md device (raid0). I've followed the manpage hints as indicated below, and think that it's complaining about the individual file(s). Can anyone guide me in the right direction? tcsh# df /server/ Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/md0 5970540 3908064 1753225 69% /server tcsh# cd /server/ tcsh# mkdir swap tcsh# cd swap tcsh# dd if=/dev/zero of=swapfile bs=1024 count=8192 8192+0 records in 8192+0 records out tcsh# mkswap swapfile 8192 Setting up swapspace, size = 8384512 bytes tcsh# sync tcsh# swapon swapfile swapon: swapfile: Invalid argument tcsh# Any ideas? Thanks, Pete -- Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: stable or not stable?
At 09:03 09/05/97 -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: The latest stable/release kernel is version 2.0.30 and will be the kernel released with Debian 1.3 (bo). Which reminds me to ask -- when's release 1.3 expected to be out? I want to order a CD but I also want to ensure I get 1.3. --Gord -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
BusLogic FlashPoint LT SCSI BT
Being a fan of Debian Linux for some time, I wanted to install Debian on my own computer in my office (to replace Windows 95 especially). Unfortunately, I have a BusLogic FlashPoint LT PCI SCSI adapter, and it's not supported currently. I found the latest version of the driver which supports my adapter, BusLogic-2.0.9.tar.gz, but its documentation seems to be for other flavors of Linux. It generates the following files: BusLogic.h FlashPoint.cREADME.BusLogic RELEASE_NOTES BusLogic.c BusLogic.patch LICENSE.FlashPoint README.FlashPoint How can I apply the patch and compile a new kernel to support this driver? Can I get this onto my boot disk? Dave May -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X packages
I had some questions about the Xwindows packages. Are they based on the stable 3.2 release? Has the public patch that is mentioned on www.xfree86.org been applied? I am asking because I have just bought an ATI 3D Expression + PC2TV card and am having trouble getting it to work with the Mach64 X server that is supplied with Debian. I have read that this card will work under the 3.2A beta. Is there any plans to package up this beta? If not, I was curious if there was somewhere that documents the changes made to the debian X distribution ie which files go in /etc/X11 so that I can make a package up that will reflect the future release because I need this beta in order for X to work. Any help will be appreciated. Dale Miller -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X packages
On 13 May 1997, Dale Miller wrote: I had some questions about the Xwindows packages. Are they based on the stable 3.2 release? Has the public patch that is mentioned on www.xfree86.org been applied? I am asking because I have just bought an ATI 3D Expression + PC2TV card and am having trouble I just got a ATI 3D Expression 2MB and I'm using the Mach64 (3.2-5). I configured it using XF86Setup, works fine. Although the card is not recognized by linux at boot time: May 12 22:01:01 macrae kernel: Warning : Unknown PCI device (1002:4754). Please read include/linux/pci.h John * John Maheu Queen's University Dept. of Economics Kingston ON Canada K7L 3N6 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Q: Update from 1.2 to 1.2.14!
Hi,
I'm new user of the Debian distribution and I've purchased a
1.2 CD a while back and had some problem installed some of
the packages onto my system. I'd like to know:
1. How do I upgrade this broken 1.2 system to the 1.2.14.
2. How do I find out what are the updated/changed packages.
Many thanks!
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Incomming mails..
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Re: X packages
In message 5mupn2.0.MF5.WECUp@debian, Dale Miller writes: I had some questions about the Xwindows packages. Are they based on the stable 3.2 release? Has the public patch that is mentioned on www.xfree86.org been applied? I am asking because I have just bought an ATI 3D Expression + PC2TV card and am having trouble getting it to work with the Mach64 X server that is supplied with Debian. I have read that this card will work under the 3.2A beta. Is there any plans to package up this beta? If not, I was curious if there was somewhere that documents the changes made to the debian X distribution ie which files go in /etc/X11 so that I can make a package up that will reflect the future release because I need this beta in order for X to work. Any help will be appreciated. Some peple have reported sucess to this list with using the debinn X-free releas and simply replasing the server binary with the beta one. Might work for You. HTH /Lars Dale Miller -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: stable or not stable?
On Tue, 13 May 1997, Gord Jeoffroy wrote: At 09:03 09/05/97 -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: The latest stable/release kernel is version 2.0.30 and will be the kernel released with Debian 1.3 (bo). Which reminds me to ask -- when's release 1.3 expected to be out? I want to order a CD but I also want to ensure I get 1.3. Within a week...hopefully ;-) If you order a CD from me you only need to specify which release you wish. I will gladly hold your order until the desired version has been released. I also have subscribers (who pay for a number of CDs in advance) who have a standing order for The last minor version of a given release who will be getting copies of the last 1.2 image (1.2.14 hopefully) when the release of 1.3 is final. (and some 1.3.x version when 1.4 gets released) I'm very Flexible ;-) so just ask for what you want. Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: BusLogic FlashPoint LT SCSI BT
There shouldn't be any difference in compiling the kernel from one distribution to another. The different distributions just package linux in different ways and maybe change some boot scripts to make things run out of the box. The source it's self is all the same. Unless your talking about going from an alpha machine to an x86 machine. It should compile fine following the instructions for any x86 linux distribution. You may have to change a path but for the most part all distributions use the standard file system tree. On Tue, 13 May 1997, Dave May wrote: Being a fan of Debian Linux for some time, I wanted to install Debian on my own computer in my office (to replace Windows 95 especially). Unfortunately, I have a BusLogic FlashPoint LT PCI SCSI adapter, and it's not supported currently. I found the latest version of the driver which supports my adapter, BusLogic-2.0.9.tar.gz, but its documentation seems to be for other flavors of Linux. It generates the following files: BusLogic.h FlashPoint.cREADME.BusLogic RELEASE_NOTES BusLogic.c BusLogic.patch LICENSE.FlashPoint README.FlashPoint How can I apply the patch and compile a new kernel to support this driver? Can I get this onto my boot disk? Dave May -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . --Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Primary vs. Extended partitions
Hi, the docs. in /usr/doc/lilo are very good to understand the concept of primary and extended partitions (and the logical partitions contained in these extended partitions). However, I would like to know if there is any perfomance hit if extended partitions are used instead of primary partitions. I guess more calculations are needed to access a specific sector in the hard disk in the case of extended partitions. Any suggestions on which kind of partitions is better? Thanks in advance. E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
