debian + win95

1997-07-16 Thread blsecres
im trying to install debian to my pc which already has win95 on it. ive
partitioned my drive using fips but when i attempt to initialize or mount i
encounter problems. ive looked for documentation for the proper procedure
but couldnt find any. directions to documentation or suggestions would be
appreciated.

ben s


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rawrite2 and OS2?

1997-07-16 Thread badams
Hi all:

I'm attempting to create a first time Linux installation using the
3.0 raw *.bin files from debian.org.  I found that I was unable to
write the disk images using rawrite2.exe from OS2 on either an
hpfs or fat partition.  I was able to create the disks from win95. 
Under OS2 rawrite2.exe reports attempting to cross DMA 64k
barrier, or something like that shrug.  Am I doing something
wrong?

The reason I ask is that the W95 partition is the partion that I
want ot use to install linux.  I figure I just might need to be
able to make more disk images at some point, g.

Also the base-1 to base-5 bin disks, plus the driver and rescue
bin disks are a minimum install?  Does this include tcpip stuff or
is that extra?  I've only got 100 megs to play with so I would
appreciate some advice on what kind of stuff a newbe should try
etc, oh and where to go get it ... g.  Thanks in advance

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xlock and NIS

1997-07-16 Thread Michele Dalla Silvestra
I have a net with NIS and clients running xdm. It work all without xlock
(it say that there are shadow password) and wu-ftpd (non-anonimous,
NIS-users).

There are some .deb package that fix them or how I must recompile xlock
and wu-ftpd for NIS support? (I've look for hours at the source of xlock,
and tried without success, and I haven't tried with wu-ftpd yet.)

Thank's.

Michele

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Re: NSLOOKUP don't work

1997-07-16 Thread Michele Dalla Silvestra
On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Tony Koehn wrote:

 I do have nameserver 127.0.0.1 in my /etc/resolv.conf file.

If you are quering bind at 127.0.0.1, bind *must* resolve
1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa. in localhost.

This is done enabling localhost entry when configuring bind.

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Re: debian + win95

1997-07-16 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, 15 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 im trying to install debian to my pc which already has win95 on it. ive
 partitioned my drive using fips but when i attempt to initialize or mount i
 encounter problems. ive looked for documentation for the proper procedure
 but couldnt find any. directions to documentation or suggestions would be
 appreciated.

I believe that fips leaves the new partition marked as MS-DOS, so
you may need to delete it, which will leave empty space on the
drive and then create new partitions (with Linux fdisk).

Bob


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man page viewer

1997-07-16 Thread Paul Miller
How can I change the program used to view the manual pages from more to
less?

-Paul


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Re: man page viewer

1997-07-16 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 How can I change the program used to view the manual pages from more to
 less?
 
If you want it system wide add the following line to /etc/profile

export PAGER=less

If you only want it on an account basis, the line goes in the users
.bash_profile.

Luck,

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Beginning documentation

1997-07-16 Thread Bobhume
I have the basic debian system installed after some trial and error.  Problem
is that I now need pointers to basic unix/linux.  Am working through Running
Linux Welsh  Kaufman, but would appreciate a good unix source.  Thanks in
advance.


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RE: Beginning documentation

1997-07-16 Thread David Puryear
Hi,

Try this link:

http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/linux.html#ldp

I would recommend starting with The Linux System Administrators' Guide

Happy reading,
David

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  advance.
  
  
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Upgrade to Debian 1.3.1: Xserver says can't find default font fixed

1997-07-16 Thread Steve Hsieh

After upgrading to Deiban 1.3.1 from 1.2, my xserver no longer runs.  It 
dies with:

Fatal server error:
Could not open default font 'fixed'.

Yet the fixed font definitely exists... 

Can someone tell me what is wrong?
Thanks.



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Re: Upgrade to Debian 1.3.1: Xserver says can't find default font fixed

1997-07-16 Thread Rob Duncan
 SH == Steve Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

SH After upgrading to Deiban 1.3.1 from 1.2, my xserver no longer
SH runs.  It dies with:

SH Fatal server error: Could not open default font 'fixed'.

SH Yet the fixed font definitely exists...

SH Can someone tell me what is wrong?  Thanks.

I had the same problem.  I fixed it by running mkfontdir in each of my
font directories:

/usr/lib/X11/fonts/*

Rob.


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What's the best products for linux?

1997-07-16 Thread PYR
Please help me!!
I need to know what the best products are for linux:
I need to buy a new video card (accelerator), a new modem, and a new HDD w/
EIDE controller.
any opinions?

Also If you could give me resonably priced products...


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Re: logon message

1997-07-16 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 how do I change the logon message?

 Note that the first line of /etc/motd is automatically edited at boot
time to include system information. You may disable this feature in
/etc/init.d/boot (look there, it's easy).

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Re: man page viewer

1997-07-16 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 How can I change the program used to view the manual pages from more to
 less?

Add

export PAGER=less

to your /etc/profile (for a system setting) or to your ~/.bash_profile
(for a per user setting).

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Machine rebooting randomly

1997-07-16 Thread Marcelo E. Magallón
Hi,

A couple of people here (including myself) are trying to set up a 
router (IP forwarder really) based on Debian. We have an old 486 (it's a Cyrix 
486-40) with 4 MB of RAM for the router. According to what I have found on the 
web, this should do the work.

We have installed Debian using the lowmem procedure (kudos to the developers, 
very very cleaver!) and it works. I replaced the kernel with a custom version 
that has EVERYTHING stripped (I mean it... this thing has the necessary network 
functions, netcard, IDE, ELF and nothing else) and uses as little memory as 
possible. I started stripping other things too, for example, there aren't 
virtual terminals, the only way to get in is via telnet or rescue floppy. 
setserial is gone, and I was thinking of disablig the syslog daemon, too.

The problem I have right now (and this showed up long before I started tweaking 
the computer) is that the machine reboots randomly. For example, I was using ae 
to edit /etc/init.d/network to add a second interface, and the machine 
rebooted. I was looking for /etc/modules to remove the modules for the ethernet 
card and the machine rebooted. Sometimes the machine boots, stays there for a 
while minding its own bussiness and it suddenly reboots. Sometimes it sits 
there for a little longer. In fact, I used dselect to fetch some upgraded 
packages via ftp, and it completed successfully (even installed perl... which I 
didn't want, WTH!)

While I was recompiling the kernel I read something about no-hlt, but I haven't 
tried it yet. Also, I read about no-387 but I guess this disables FPU (which I 
didn't know was requiered) emulation. I'm recompiling the kernel optimized for 
a 386 not a 486, and I stripped the floppy (physically and from the kernel).

Pointers are sincerely welcomed...

Marcelo


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Re: Machine rebooting randomly

1997-07-16 Thread Jason Gunthorpe


On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, [ISO-8859-1] Marcelo E. Magallón wrote:

 
 The problem I have right now (and this showed up long before I started 

Check the voltages from the power supply, some older cases tend to fall 
a bit low and will cause exactly this, should be close to 5 and close to
12.

Jason


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Re: Machine rebooting randomly

1997-07-16 Thread George Bonser

Make sure that the system has a CPU fan and that it is WORKING. Heat
problems are one common cause of random reboots.

If using 2.0.30, you might go back to 2.0.29 or .27  .30 really should
not have been released in the state that it was in (IMHO). .31 might be
out in a couple of weeks from what I have been reading in the kernel
developers list.



 
 Pointers are sincerely welcomed...
 
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Re: md5sum failure update

1997-07-16 Thread Carey Evans
Chris Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[snip]

 Now once I 
 figure out how to concatenate these files with whatever is in my NT box, 
 and write a CD, I may be on my way to more wonderful Linux thrills.

I found out the hard way, that the equivalent of

cat foo bar  wibble

in MS-DOG is

COPY FOO+BAR WIBBLE

I suspect you might want to scatter some /B switches among these.

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Re: ip-up question

1997-07-16 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Foltz) writes:

 Is it safe to put these lines in the /etc/ppp/ip-up scripts? $6 is passed 
 to the script using the ipparam option of pppd and is the name of the 
 user initiating the ppp link.

[snip executing file in home]

Since ip-up is executed as root, that depends on exactly how little
security you want.

If you want to do this, you should probably give up root priviliges
before running ~/ip-up.  But you can't trust $6 anyway, so you'll need
to get the userid from somewhere else.  I use the GID to identify
users in my Perl ip-up script.

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Debian for PPC Macs

1997-07-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello,

I want to buy a new box and wonder about some alternatives to the
Intel (compatible ... I think of K6) architecture.  I've got the
following information from Johannes Ramm-Ericson:

 I just came across the following information:
 *
 
 This announcement is from:
 
 Apple PR
 
 Apple Computer, Inc. today announced that it has reduced prices made 
 available to resellers on select Power Macintosh 6500 and Macintosh 
 Performa 6400 series computers. Effective July 12, 1997, this move cuts 
 prices on these popular computers by up to U.S. $300. The price cuts are 
 consistent 
 with Apple's strategy of providing the industry's most 
 powerful and easy-to-use computers at competitive prices.
 
 ... (some stuff deleted -- ask me if you are interested in the complete text)

 The PowerMac 6500 series does not yet fully support MkLinux
 but there are people who have reported being able to install it.
 
 Also, some have installed Linux for PMacs (www.linuxppc.org)
 on the 6500 series.
What about Debian on Macs? If I'm right, in the unstable times of bo there
was a binary-m68k - tree.  This tree now has moved to unstable/hamm.
Does this mean that Linux for Macs is only unstable??

I havn't compared the contents of the m68k tree with the i386 tree.  Is the
amount of packages the same?

I need a very stable system on my new box because I will use it far distant
from the internet (the prices of phone calls are quite high in Germany).
I can't relay on the good support of the mailing lists and can't load some
packages via ftp.

Is there anybody who would recommend to by a PowerMac if it is the better
(faster) hardware or shoul I stick to the Intel compatible?

Thanks for advance

   Andreas.


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Re: Debian for PPC Macs

1997-07-16 Thread Dan Hugo
Andreas Tille wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I want to buy a new box and wonder about some alternatives to the
 Intel (compatible ... I think of K6) architecture.  I've got the
 following information from Johannes Ramm-Ericson:

[Apple stuff snipped]

 I need a very stable system on my new box because I will use it far distant
 from the internet (the prices of phone calls are quite high in Germany).
 I can't relay on the good support of the mailing lists and can't load some
 packages via ftp.


Stable could be defined as Time Tested or perhaps Self-Proven
which is what Linux on intel machines seems to be.  It doesn't hurt that
it started there and tends to be the first place where new software runs
on.  That damn market share thing is definitely a factor also...
 
 Is there anybody who would recommend to by a PowerMac if it is the better
 (faster) hardware or shoul I stick to the Intel compatible?


BUT, I myself have used MkLinux (I know, it's slower) to do real work at
work for CHRP development (that's Common Hardware Reference Platform),
and it is pretty stable even though it is pretty young.

The new PowerPC chips (the next generation, called G3 or 740/750 or
Arthur or Mach V...) are, well, FAST.  I haven't run any linux
benchmarks on them, but I intend to once the Money-making OS is
running on them officially.

So, basically, the decision is similar to decing between Alpha and Intel
linux... the Alpha is FAST, but there are still more linux pieces out
there built and tested on intel boxes.  Personally, I have a PPro box,
it works, and I will probably end up with a CHRP box running some PPC
Linux as well (when we ship the darn thing!).


Hope that helped in some way

-dh 

ps I recall reading somewhere that there would eventually be a
Debian-PPC, which would most likely support CHRP hardware, but I'm not
sure where that is in reality.  Check http://www.linuxppc.org for more
info on kernel ports, and the site at apple
(http://www.mklinux.apple.com) has info and links.


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missing file

1997-07-16 Thread Jason Westervelt
Anyone know what package stddef.h is in?  I had to re-install debian in
attempts to get my AWE32 drivers to work.  I had this problem the first
time around and can't remember how I fixed it.  BTW, someone mentioned
running   'make-kpkg clean'  to get things into order so that the AWE
drivers package would take hold, but I still try to compile the kernel
and the driver is not evident, there are no questions relating to the
AWE driver during   'make config'.   the install.sh  script executes
without error, and the files are moved into /usr/src/linux's
subdirectories.  Anyone know what might be going on?

jason


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ncurses3.4 not found

1997-07-16 Thread Paul Miller
the ncurses3.4 package is not available in the hamm version of Debian. 
Where can I get this package?

-Paul


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sunsite symlink problem

1997-07-16 Thread Paul Miller
Sunsite is missing the unstable - hamm/hamm symlink  ... for now I'll
just use Debian's ftp until sunsite it fixed (sunsite it faster from my
location)

-Paul


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Re: Linux Journal Reader's Choice Awards

1997-07-16 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jul 15, 1997 at 01:28:00PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
 Vote for Debian as your favorite distribution at
 http://www.ssc.com/lj/readchoice.html .

Unfortunate that it seems to be very commercially-oriented.
Under X servers, Accelerated X, then Metro X, then XFree was third,
while I suspect XFree would be the most popular of the three by far.
Similarly all the backup tools listed are commercial AFAIK.


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Re: missing file

1997-07-16 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Hi Jason,

you can find out to which package a certain file belongs with:

dpkg -S file name

E. g. 'dpkg -S stddef.h' on my system yields:

gcc: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/include/stddef.h
kernel-source-2.0.30:
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.30/include/linux/stddef.h
libc5-dev: /usr/include/linux/stddef.h
libg++27-dev: /usr/include/g++/std/stddef.h
libg++27-dev: /usr/include/g++/std/cstddef.h

As for your problem with AWE32 support, did you get the current driver
from

http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/awedrv/ ?

It should cleanly integrate into both kernel sources and kernel
configuration. I have not used it myself, however.

Regards,

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Re: missing file

1997-07-16 Thread Jason Westervelt
ok, well when running   'make config'  it gets to the sound driver part
and lists 4 or 5  *.h files that call for stddef.h, which can't be
found.   This happened the first time I tried compiling my kernel.
Copying /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/include/stddef.h into
/usr/include   seems to do the trick..   I am going to try one more
thing, but I still can't get  the AWE drivers/util package to do
anything during kernel compilation.  I'll try the other site you gave
me, thanks Andree for the blazing fast response.  =)

With 'real' help like this ML offers, why stick with other commercial
OSs?  ;)

jason


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Re: missing file

1997-07-16 Thread joost witteveen
 Anyone know what package stddef.h is in?

Although I knew the answer, I asked it
  http://sunsite.tut.fi/finder/
and it also told me your package is libc5-dev or libc6-dev.

 I had to re-install debian in
 attempts to get my AWE32 drivers to work.  I had this problem the first
 time around and can't remember how I fixed it.  BTW, someone mentioned
 running   'make-kpkg clean'  to get things into order so that the AWE
 drivers package would take hold, but I still try to compile the kernel
 and the driver is not evident, there are no questions relating to the
 AWE driver during   'make config'. 

Ah, you're compiling your kernel and then you get a missing file
stddef.h? Although I've never kompiled a kernel the debian-way,
I'd say your kernel package isn't installed properly, as the kernel
provides (and uses) it's own header files. Don't know what went wrong.

 the install.sh  script executes
 without error, and the files are moved into /usr/src/linux's
 subdirectories.  Anyone know what might be going on?

I really should take alook at the debian kernel packagre some day!
Looks rather strange to me, but never mind.

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Re: ncurses3.4 not found

1997-07-16 Thread joost witteveen
 the ncurses3.4 package is not available in the hamm version of Debian. 
 Where can I get this package?


In master's incoming, or it's mirror:

  ftp://cfni.com/pub/linux/debian/Incoming

 
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$/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1
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Re:Netscape Mail 3.x

1997-07-16 Thread W Paul Mills
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Curt Howland wrote:

 After installing this at other times and having the 
 same problem, you'd think I might remember. It was the
 FCC File Not Found that threw me. Why FCC of all the
 words they could have used...

Because that is what everyone uses. Stands for something like
File Carbon Copy. If I remember right.

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Re: Linux Journal Reader's Choice Awards

1997-07-16 Thread Joergen Haegg

I wonder if the survey is still useful when it is published. ;-)

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Thanks for helping us with the Reader's Choice survey!
The results of this poll will be printed in the December 1998 issue, #44.
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Re: Debian for PPC Macs

1997-07-16 Thread Andreas Tille
 The new PowerPC chips (the next generation, called G3 or 740/750 or
 Arthur or Mach V...) are, well, FAST.  I haven't run any linux
 benchmarks on them, but I intend to once the Money-making OS is
 running on them officially.
 
 So, basically, the decision is similar to decing between Alpha and Intel
 linux... the Alpha is FAST, but there are still more linux pieces out
 there built and tested on intel boxes.  Personally, I have a PPro box,
 it works, and I will probably end up with a CHRP box running some PPC
 Linux as well (when we ship the darn thing!).
My conclusion is if I buy my new boc next week I should buy a Intel,
if I buy next year PPC or Alpha. Right?

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compiling ftools on debian machine

1997-07-16 Thread Debian email
Hi 

I have been trying to compile a package called ftools on my debian P5-166.
Initial problems with X libs were solved by installing xlib6-dev_3.2-6.deb,
but now I have a problem with termcap. According to the FAQ on compatiblity
one must replace all references to libtermcap with libncurses to get stuff
to compile on debian. I have a two lines in the ftools makefile:

LIB_COMMON =-lcftools -lcfitsio -lftools -lxanlib -lfitsio \
-ltermcap -lpgplot

LIBXSEL_COMMON = -L${FTOOLS_LIB} -lxron -lftools -lxanlib -lfitsio \
 -ltermcap -lpgplot

I have tried changing -ltermcap to -lncurses, but get:

ld: cannot open -lncurses: No such file or directory

Anybody have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Matt.

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me in the past than any commercial support service.

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Re: missing file

1997-07-16 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Oh, your're very welcome!

Btw, after installing the awe-package, did you also execute the install
script that patches the kernel sources before trying to reconfigure the
kernel?

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Re: ncurses3.4 not found

1997-07-16 Thread Shaya Potter
On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Paul Miller wrote:

 the ncurses3.4 package is not available in the hamm version of Debian. 
 Where can I get this package?
 

It's still in Incoming on master.

Shaya


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Named problem..

1997-07-16 Thread Carlos Marcos Kakihara

Hi, I'm using bind 4.9.5-1 and I'm getting the following warning:
[stress]:~# tail -f /var/log/daemon.log

Jul 16 09:59:00 stress named[4921]: localhost.rev: WARNING SOA refresh value is 
less than 2 * retry (3600  3600 * 2)

What does it mean?

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Re: Named problem..

1997-07-16 Thread Lindsay Allen

On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Carlos Marcos Kakihara wrote:

 
   Hi, I'm using bind 4.9.5-1 and I'm getting the following warning:
 [stress]:~# tail -f /var/log/daemon.log
 
 Jul 16 09:59:00 stress named[4921]: localhost.rev: WARNING SOA refresh value 
 is less than 2 * retry (3600  3600 * 2)
 
   What does it mean?

Here is an extract from my /var/named/main-dns-file:

; Authoritative data for ax
;
@   IN  SOA elm.ax. hostmaster.elm.ax. (
4   ; Serial
10800   ; Refresh 3 hours
3600; Retry   1 hour
360 ; Expire  1000 hours
86400 ) ; Minimum 24 hours
IN  A   192.168.1.2
;
; Name servers
;
@   IN  NS  elm.ax.

etc.etc...   Note my refresh perion of 10800 seconds.

If you are running bind you should have some such file yourself, putting
names to IP numbers and so on.  Check the DNS howto for details.

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Re: Named problem..

1997-07-16 Thread Martin Schulze
On Jul 16, Carlos Marcos Kakihara wrote

   Hi, I'm using bind 4.9.5-1 and I'm getting the following warning:
 [stress]:~# tail -f /var/log/daemon.log
 
 Jul 16 09:59:00 stress named[4921]: localhost.rev: WARNING SOA refresh value 
 is less than 2 * retry (3600  3600 * 2)
 
   What does it mean?

Look at your SOA the error message is clear.

You can specify several values in your SOA, at least one of them
is incorrect.

Joey

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XFree86 3.3 on ThinkPad 365XD.

1997-07-16 Thread Timothy J. Miller

Someone sent me mail with the comment that X11_SVGA on the
non-TFT displays is a bear to configure properly.

He's right.

Unfortunately I lost his email address, and need to correspond
with him a bit more on the matter. 

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Re: cp command

1997-07-16 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Bob Clark wrote:

:Syd Alsobrook wrote:
:
: Really easy
:
: The best way to copy a directory tree from one drive to another is
:
: cp -pr /usr /hd
:
: Thanks
:
: Syd
: 
:
:Hmm... The _best_ way?  I not so sure.  Like most things in
:*nix where there are lots of ways to get the job done there
:is usually not a _best_ way.  A major problem with cp -pr is
:that linked-files, both hard and soft, are broken and all
:links are copied individually as regular files.  This can
:cause MAJOR problems as well as consuming more disk space.

Also, the cp command doesn't always do so well with device files, fifos,
etc.  The tar command has some of these problems as well.

:A couple of ways to avoid this problem are:
:
:mkdir newDir
:cd oldDir
:find . -print | cpio -pdm newDir

This is my preferred method, except I usually do a cpio -padm ... makes
it a little more transparent that things have been moved.  Aethetics,
mostly. 

:
:OR
:
:mkdir newDir
:cd newDir
:(cd oldDir;tar cf - .) | tar xpf -

This won't work on the /dev directory, I don't think.

:I'm sure these are not the _best_ way, but as far as I know
:there are no hidden side-effects with links, permissions,
:etc.
:
:My $0.02
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Re: man page viewer

1997-07-16 Thread Nathan E Norman
One way is to set the PAGER environment variable to '/usr/bin/less'  I
do this in /etc/profile.  I'm sure there are other ways.

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Re: Linux Journal Reader's Choice Awards

1997-07-16 Thread Paul Seelig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hamish Moffatt) writes:
 On Tue, Jul 15, 1997 at 01:28:00PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
  Vote for Debian as your favorite distribution at
  http://www.ssc.com/lj/readchoice.html .
 
 Unfortunate that it seems to be very commercially-oriented.
 Under X servers, Accelerated X, then Metro X, then XFree was third,
 while I suspect XFree would be the most popular of the three by far.
 Similarly all the backup tools listed are commercial AFAIK.

And under file managers they didn't even mention the most powerful and
versatile of them all, the GNU Midnight Commander.  Seems to be very
GUI oriented rather than geered towards true usefulness.
 
Cheers, P. *8^)
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Re: Linux Journal Reader's Choice Awards

1997-07-16 Thread icon

There is always the other switch.

Shaya


On 16 Jul 1997, Paul Seelig wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hamish Moffatt) writes:
  On Tue, Jul 15, 1997 at 01:28:00PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
   Vote for Debian as your favorite distribution at
   http://www.ssc.com/lj/readchoice.html .
  
  Unfortunate that it seems to be very commercially-oriented.
  Under X servers, Accelerated X, then Metro X, then XFree was third,
  while I suspect XFree would be the most popular of the three by far.
  Similarly all the backup tools listed are commercial AFAIK.
 
 And under file managers they didn't even mention the most powerful and
 versatile of them all, the GNU Midnight Commander.  Seems to be very
 GUI oriented rather than geered towards true usefulness.
  
 Cheers, P. *8^)
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Selecting the location for the swap partitionx

1997-07-16 Thread Evil Twin
Hi.

I'm new to Linux.  And I'm definitely still in the playing around stage.
I've installed Debian 1.3.1 on a 486/50Mhz with a 233mb hard drive.  I
didn't make my Linux partition big enough, so I'm going to repartition
and reinstall Linux.  My question is about the partitioning for swap.
If I keep MSDOS in hda1, should my swap (24mb) be hda2, or hda3?  My
question stems from having the swap file closer to or further from the
front of the disk for access speed... like it matters on an older slower
drive like that. ;-)

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Re: major PPP packet loss

1997-07-16 Thread sjg


 Well, after several more hours of tinkering, I'm tracking down my 
 problem.  I changed the USR factory settings on my modem.  My 
 connection would still crash out.  So I let a ping session run for an 
 hour to see what happened.  Here is a sample of the results:
 round-trip min/avg/max = 210.0/361609.2/2969940.0 ms
 
 So my connection isn't dropping completely.  I'm just losing an 
 insane amount of packets.  Any suggestions?

   If all else fails, try upgrading the ROM in your modem. I haven't been
following this thread, but just recently I put in a new ROM for my
Sportster 28.8 (which now makes it a full 33.6 FWIW). In doing so, it did
actually increase the stability of me connection (ie., quakeworld runs
better, longer ;)
Of course, this may not apply if you already have a newer modem. I
wasn't paying attention very well ;)

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Modem

1997-07-16 Thread Jason Killen

I was bored the other day so I decided to grab my old modem and try it out.
(It's an internal with a Rockwell(eek) chipset)  I slapped it in and
booted the machine, everything looked ok.  But when I ran kermit after
setting the speed, line and hitting c kermit hangs. I get the connection
info but when I try to type commands nothing happens, my keystrokes don't 
don't even get echoed.

Along those lines.  What tty is my modem  I have two working com
ports and an internal modem.  Is there a way to say the internal is number 1
or number 2 if I want.  

And I though getting the ethernet stuff up was crazy.  (Actually it wasn't
that bad.)

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Routing of bounced mail

1997-07-16 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
 What is the standard (if there is a standard) routing that MTAs
use to route bounced mail?  Do they use the FROM: field or the
Return-Path: field?

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Re: Linux Journal Reader's Choice Awards

1997-07-16 Thread Paul Seelig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (icon) writes:

 There is always the other switch.
 
 On 16 Jul 1997, Paul Seelig wrote:
 
  And under file managers they didn't even mention the most powerful and
  versatile of them all, the GNU Midnight Commander.  Seems to be very
  GUI oriented rather than geered towards true usefulness.
 
Guess what i chose!? ;-) But nonetheless MC is not featured in the
list which strikes me as ratther ignorant regarding it's still
unreached overall quality in the Linux world.  Or have i overlooked
something?
  Cheers, P. *8^)
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Re: Debian for PPC Macs

1997-07-16 Thread Rick Hawkins
 My conclusion is if I buy my new boc next week I should buy a Intel,
 if I buy next year PPC or Alpha. Right?

this is pretty much what i've come to.  If i could buy an atx ppc
motherboard now, I would.  but i can't, so i won't :(  And I'm not
willing to own another apple proprietary design which is, for all
intents and purposes, not upgradable ($1500 to replace the motherboard
so that i can have a ne $500 processor is not upgradable).

IBM's workstations with ppc are a bit much for my taste, leaviang intel
 alpha.

And an alpha seems to start at an extra $1000.

I'm leaving in a few days for a workshop, so I'll buy second week of
august.  If the Hot 603 motherboard is out, and reasonably priced,
i'll try for one of those with a k6.  If not, I think it's a FIC 2011
with a K6-200.  I've found I can get that in a full tower with 3gb, 32mb
sdram, video card, and cheap tape drive for about $1200.

rick


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ethernet error

1997-07-16 Thread K.Y.Lo
Hi, i just run 'modconfig' to install the network driver, it found the 
problem. My ethernet is called SMC8000 16-Bit ISA(10Mbp), which it can
run Novell IPX and TCP/IP software.

SMC9194: You shouldn't use auto-probing with insmod!
loading device 'eth0' ...
/lib/modules/2.0.29/net/smc9194.o :init_modules Device or resource busy

Installation failed.

Any clue?

Kam


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Re: Modem

1997-07-16 Thread Brian K Servis
Jason Killen writes:

Along those lines.  What tty is my modem  I have two working com
ports and an internal modem.  Is there a way to say the internal is number 1
or number 2 if I want.  

This is usually set by jumpers on the modem along with the interupt.  If
you have 2 builtin com ports you need to put your modem at com3(ttyS2) or
com4(ttyS3).  If you are not using the builtin's and your mother board
has jumpers you can also disable the on board com ports and make your
modem be com1(ttyS0) or com2(ttyS1).

And I though getting the ethernet stuff up was crazy.  (Actually it wasn't
that bad.)
My guess is that modems are a bit more work since you have to first 
establish a connection and then you are at the point of the ethernet
cards. But this is only my opinion since I have never set up an ethernet
card.(Somebody want to drop a T1 in my house?)

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setting time via a server?

1997-07-16 Thread Colin R. Telmer
I currently use a small script/executable combination named st/gettime to
set my system clock via an atomic server. This is done as a cronjob at
3am and immediately after the system time is written to the cmos time
(clock -w). For some unknown reason, once and awhile when I come in to my
office in the morning, the time is correct, but the date is advanced
forward by one day. Is there some other method of doing this that will set
the date as well as the time from a internet server? st will only do the
time. Also, I would prefer not to run xntp - it seems wasteful to me to
have it running continuously to just set the clock every 24 hours. Can
xntp be used as a one-off program and put into a crontab? Cheers.

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Re: ethernet error

1997-07-16 Thread Andree Leidenfrost
Hi Kam,

you have to specify io port and interrupt for your ethernet card.

Via 'modconf':

Under net/your_card/Install in the box below Please enter bla bla bla
write the parameters

io=0 irq=n (replace xxx and n with the proper values, maybe you can
even omit irq)

Via '/etc/conf.modules:

Open the file and give the following parameters

alias eth0 name of ethernet module without trailing '.o'
options wd io=0 irq=n

with xxx and n as above


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efax problem

1997-07-16 Thread Johann Spies
Hallo,

I am using efax with a Zoltrix 14400 modem.  I have no problem with faxes
sent from my machine, but the ones I received so far are all vertically
compressed.  The width is ok but the height is about half what it should
be.

Is there a way to fix this?

Johann.


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Re: Debian for PPC Macs

1997-07-16 Thread Rick Hawkins

 For those of you interested in CHRP PPC machine, take a look at
 www.pios.de. Seems like a very flexible system, and it will be shipping
 with Linux and BeOS. I know what my next computer will be.

They certainly look interesting, at least eventually.  But at the moment
it seems to be an almost finsihed machine running an almost finished
port of linux which is only avaialble in a developers version for
several hundred dollars more than comparable x86 systems.  Oh, well.
Next time . . .


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Re: Debian on Compaq Deskpro 6000 [Summary and Solution]

1997-07-16 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
I'm sorry for starting a thread and then not responding but I got really
busy.  I thought I'd post a summary of the advice I got and what I
eventually did to get Debian up and running on this system.

Thanks to the many people who responded to my question both on the list
and privately.  Special thanks to Igor Grobman and Peter Galbraith who
offered to provide a custom kernel for me.  Luckily I have other Debian
systems so I could compile this myself but I appreciate the offer.

This was the problem.  After much whining and pleading I was given the
Compaq to replace a 486 as my Linux system at work.  I made a rescue disk
and began the install but part of the way through the boot process, the
machine would spontaneously reboot.  I assumed it was because of a bad
probe of some peripheral most likely the network card.

The simplest suggestion was to disable the network card.  I tried this but
the problem remained.  So it must have been some other device.  I tried to
disable as much as possible from the BIOS but I couldn't figure out the
culprit.  Carey Evans described a way to stop probing certain memory
addresses which maybe could have worked -- if I knew which were the right
addresses.  I tried to guess a couple of ranges based on its DOS
configuration but no dice.

Another suggestion was to compile a custom kernel to replace the one on
the rescue disk.  This kernel would only have the exact drivers needed by
my hardware.  After some research into exactly what I had (no
documentation :-( )  I did this.  Still didn't work.  I discovered I also
needed to copy the System.map.  Ok try again.  Still didn't work.  Hmmm
maybe I'd guessed some of the devices wrong?  That's when I had an idea. 
I found out the Deskpro 6000 can boot directly from CD.  So I tried it
and... didn't work.  The next time, out of sheer desperation, I tried
typing linux rescue at the boot prompt instead of just enter. 
Miraculously, this worked!  After that it was plain sailing.  The only
other hitch is for the Ethernet card to be reliably detected, you have to
do some trickery with a boot floppy and loadlin but this is explained in
the Ethernet HOWTO and is quite straightforward. 

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Crazy Ultrasound card

1997-07-16 Thread Jason Killen
I just bought a Ultrasound sound card, used.  It's up and working fine
but the audio cable that came with my cdrom drive wont fit the pins on the card.

Did I miss something?
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make-kpkg build error

1997-07-16 Thread Karlheinz Nolte
I get the following error, if I try to build a custom kernel with
make-kpkg:

--snip
make[3]: Entering directory
`/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27/arch/i386/boot'
as86 -0 -a -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.s
make[3]: as86: Command not found
make[3]: *** [bbootsect.o] Error 127
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27/arch/i386/boot'
make[2]: *** [bzImage] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27'
make[1]: *** [build] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27'
make: *** [stamp-image] Error 2
--snap

Is there a solution? I have Debian 1.2.2.

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Re: Crazy Ultrasound card

1997-07-16 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
You probably only miss the right kind of connector on the Ultrasound or the 
right kind of cable, depends on how you think about it :).

My SB 32 has two CD audio connectors. They both have left, right and two 
ground pins but the shape of the connector and the pin assignment is 
different. The CD-rom also has left, right and two ground pins.

I think there are three things you can try. Ask for a working cable from the 
place you bought the Ultrasound from, ask your friends for any extra cables or 
try to fix the existing cable. Both my CD-rom and SoundBlaster manuals have 
the pin assignments printed on them.

// Heikki

Jason Killen wrote:

 I just bought a Ultrasound sound card, used.  It's up and working fine
 but the audio cable that came with my cdrom drive wont fit the pins on
 the card.
 
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Q: gcc/g++ test programs, xmkmf local config files, ...

1997-07-16 Thread Steve Yang
Hi,

I've installed stabled gcc/g++ recently without any problem. However,
when I tried to compile dxpc-3.6.0, the script complains that g++
is not able to create binary. Should I suspect any problem with
gcc/g++ installation? If so, how would I be able to confirm this?
Are there any test programs out there that I can test?


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Re: Debian for PPC Macs

1997-07-16 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
Hello,

I want to buy a new box and wonder about some alternatives to the
Intel (compatible ... I think of K6) architecture.  I've got the
following information from Johannes Ramm-Ericson:

momentan ist nicht viel da, soweit ich weis.
du kannst aber ein redhat draufspielen, grundprogramm kompilieren,
und dadurch deine eigenes debian boot strappen. ich würde es ja selbst
machen, habe aber momentan einfach keinen zugang zu einer ppc kiste.

wenn du soweit bist, kannst du alles kompilieren.  ich lasse gerade
einen auto compiler auf meine kiste los, und er kompiliert recht viele
packete problemlos.

debian aktuell auf dem ppc einzusetzen ist also noch nicht drinn,
aber es wäre ein interessantes projekt (and dem auch schon einige andere
arbeiten, die arbeit teilt sich also auf ...).

debian für alpha ist um weilen weiter, soweit ich weis. debian 2.0 (in
2.3 monaten) wird offiziell mehrere platformen unterstützen, inclusive
alpha (vielleicht auch ppc - je nachdem wie schnell es geht).

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Re: SCSI CD-PD problem

1997-07-16 Thread Peter S Galbraith

F. L. Szot/Dr. Lightning wrote:

 Anyway, my Compaq 9240 came with a combination CD-Rom/Optical drive.

Recompile a kernel, enabling Multiple LUNs in the SCSI stuff.
The PD-CD should then be detected as two separate devices.

A note to Compaq buyers:  They don't ship a SCSI PD-CD anymore!
Now it's a IDE/ATAPI interface model and doesn't work with Linux 2..0.X
kernels.  I have heard that it may be possible to get it to work
under 2.1.X kernels, but haven't tried yet.  I'm stuck with one
but Compaq said they `may' replace it.
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Re: Debian for PPC Macs

1997-07-16 Thread Stig Are M. Botterli
On 16-Jul-97 Rick Hawkins wrote:

 For those of you interested in CHRP PPC machine, take a look at
 www.pios.de. Seems like a very flexible system, and it will be shipping
 with Linux and BeOS. I know what my next computer will be.

They certainly look interesting, at least eventually.  But at the moment
it seems to be an almost finsihed machine running an almost finished
port of linux which is only avaialble in a developers version for
several hundred dollars more than comparable x86 systems.  Oh, well.
Next time . . .

As the only proprietary part is the motherboard, which includes sound/midi,
while the rest is made up of industry standard components, I very much doubt
your estimate. Esp. as they haven't announced a price yet. You are probably
confusing it with the Keenya, which is a Mac clone based on Motorola's
Tanzania board.

The reason I am considering this system is that I am also very attracted to the 
BeOS and the fact that it will most probably run a CHRP version of Rhapsody.
For a Linux-only system it makes sense to stick to x86, esp. considering the
competition Intel is seeing from Cyrix and AMD.

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Re: Debian for PPC Macs

1997-07-16 Thread Rick Hawkins


 As the only proprietary part is the motherboard, which includes sound/midi,
 while the rest is made up of industry standard components, I very much doubt
 your estimate. Esp. as they haven't announced a price yet. You are probably
 confusing it with the Keenya, which is a Mac clone based on Motorola's
 Tanzania board.

is it an at or atx format board then?  I don't recall seeing anything to
that effect (but would be very happy if it were atx).

rick


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Re: make-kpkg build error

1997-07-16 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas

You need to install the as86 package from devel.

-- Jaldhar 

On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Karlheinz Nolte wrote:

 I get the following error, if I try to build a custom kernel with
 make-kpkg:
 
 --snip
 make[3]: Entering directory
 `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27/arch/i386/boot'
 as86 -0 -a -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.s
 make[3]: as86: Command not found
 make[3]: *** [bbootsect.o] Error 127
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27/arch/i386/boot'
 make[2]: *** [bzImage] Error 2
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27'
 make[1]: *** [build] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.27'
 make: *** [stamp-image] Error 2
 --snap
 
 Is there a solution? I have Debian 1.2.2.
 
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Re: efax problem

1997-07-16 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Johann Spies wrote:
 
 Hallo,
 
 I am using efax with a Zoltrix 14400 modem.  I have no problem with faxes
 sent from my machine, but the ones I received so far are all vertically
 compressed.  The width is ok but the height is about half what it should
 be.
 
 Is there a way to fix this?

Most likely they're not vertically compressed. Rather they are 
simply Standard, rather than Fine, resolution. There's a program
included with efax to stretch them the way you expect to see them.

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ppp traps script output

1997-07-16 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
 I have a script to start ppp that was written when I was running
slackware.  This script allows me to choose among several isp numbers
and several option files.  It displays the number being called,
reports when the connection is up, and records the time connection is
made.  When ppp is stopped it reports that ppp is down and displays
the length of time the connection was up.  These messages are
displayed using the echo command.  It is rather verbose, but that is
the way I like it.

 When I started using debian 1.2.0 last winter, I found that this
script worked, except that the output while the connection is being
made is suppressed.  I have just discovered the file
/etc/ppp/connect-errors, which contains all of the messages I have
been missing.  I can not find any reference to this file in the
documentation, and I don't know if pppd or chat is responsible for
redirecting these messages to the file.  How can I cause these
messages to be echoed to the console as I intended rather than being
redirected to this file?

Bob


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/etc/ppp/ip-up behavior

1997-07-16 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
 The pppd man pages say that the ip-up and ip-down scripts are
executed with standard input, output and error streams redirected
to /dev/null. 

 I would like to use these scripts, but I want them to echo
messages to the console.  How can I overcome this redirection to
/dev/null?

Bob


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Re: Debian for PPC Macs

1997-07-16 Thread Stig Are M. Botterli
On 16-Jul-97 Rick Hawkins wrote:
 As the only proprietary part is the motherboard, which includes sound/midi,
 while the rest is made up of industry standard components, I very much doubt
 your estimate. Esp. as they haven't announced a price yet. You are probably
 confusing it with the Keenya, which is a Mac clone based on Motorola's
 Tanzania board.

is it an at or atx format board then?  I don't recall seeing anything to
that effect (but would be very happy if it were atx).

ATX. You will find the technical spcifications following the transAM/Maxxtrem
links.

rick

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Re: Gigabyte 586S and Cyrix 200+ (was Dual Pentium Machines)

1997-07-16 Thread Kevin M. Bealer
Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Kevin M. Bealer wrote:

 Kevin M. Bealer wrote:

 Following up on this:
 
 After:
 
 1) installing set6x86
 2) Setting all BIOS settings to maximum delay timings (for RAM)
 3) Setting the ISA bus frequency to 7.159 MHz (lowest setting)
(only my CDROM, modem, and ethernet card are on the ISA anyway.)
 
 Everything seems to be stable.  The serial ports don't work as
 far as I can tell, but the modem works fine, and the PS/2 mouse
 works fine.

Just a suggestion, but if you bought a board it should be able to run at
'normal' clock rates and not require adjusting like that. IMHO you have
some kind of faulty hardware if this is required. You might have some
device/memory/whatever that doesn't like the 75MHz bus speed however...

I had a board that would nuke Win95 in some strange cases, mostly due to
PCI bustmastering it seemed, turned out to be bad ram -- though the ram
didn't fail any of the tests the supplier put it through after I told him
about it. I'm sure if I put linux on it I would see symptoms like you do,
crashing during kernel compiles and such. 

Is this a 430TX based MB?
 
Jason


Nah, it's a Gigabyte GA-586S, based on the SiS5571 chipset, Award
BIOS.  32 MB EDO, 512K cache plus whatever the internal cache
on a 6x86L 200+ is.

It is on the Cyrix recommended list as well, and has specific
documentation for setting up with this CPU (Cyrix 200+ has a 75 MHz
bus speed; if your MB runs it at 60 MHz bus, you effectively have
a 200 * (60/75) = 160.)

I guess it's going back... I don't know whether I want to get another
clone on another kind of board, or go to intel and get a Pent 120 for
the same price.


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Re: Debian for PPC Macs

1997-07-16 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Can we participate or this is a private conversation? :-)

E.-

Andreas Jellinghaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: momentan ist nicht viel da, soweit ich weis.
: du kannst aber ein redhat draufspielen, grundprogramm kompilieren,
: und dadurch deine eigenes debian boot strappen. ich w|rde es ja selbst
: machen, habe aber momentan einfach keinen zugang zu einer ppc kiste.

: wenn du soweit bist, kannst du alles kompilieren.  ich lasse gerade
: einen auto compiler auf meine kiste los, und er kompiliert recht viele
: packete problemlos.

: debian aktuell auf dem ppc einzusetzen ist also noch nicht drinn,
: aber es wdre ein interessantes projekt (and dem auch schon einige andere
: arbeiten, die arbeit teilt sich also auf ...).

: debian f|r alpha ist um weilen weiter, soweit ich weis. debian 2.0 (in
: 2.3 monaten) wird offiziell mehrere platformen unterst|tzen, inclusive
: alpha (vielleicht auch ppc - je nachdem wie schnell es geht).

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upgrading

1997-07-16 Thread Paul Miller
I installed Debian 1.3.1 about a week ago and I'm wondering if I need to
uninstall packages that I want to upgrade to hamm.. or will if uninstall
the automatically?

-Paul


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