How to multitask in X-windows?
Hi, I need to know if there a way in x-windows for example in the shell itself i would press the alt key and the F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 to open a new window is there a way to do this in X? Thanks in advance [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
flip binary
Hi I am including this binary which flips the screen on an xserver for a few seconds and then sets it back to normal. I was wondering if you have seen this before and if you know or can point me to the right person to find out what exactly this binary is doing as in the guts of the program? thank you akbar -- HAL Computer Systems, A Fijitsu Company, Campbell, California SQA Maintenance Group phone: 408-341-5630 fax: 408-341-5901 website: http://web.hal.com/~jaffer/ -- flip Description: Binary data
Re: flip binary
Akbar Jaffer wrote: Hi I am including this binary which flips the screen on an xserver for a few seconds and then sets it back to normal. I was wondering if you have seen this before and if you know or can point me to the right person to find out what exactly this binary is doing as in the guts of the program? This program is in debian in the xflip package. (I assume it's the same one, I can't run the sparc binary you attached to make sure ;-) You can look at the source. What I think it does is, it graps a snapshot of the screen, then pops up a window that covers the whole screen, paints it with the snapshot it took, and then modifies it to make it look like the screen is flipping. -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xemacs and mail
On 30 Sep 1997, Carey Evans wrote: Craig Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] yep, i read that. i even read the rest of the gnus docs on handling mail. it seems like it's not going to be any good for me because it doesn't want to read an mailbox which has new mail being appended to it. You can read existing mbox-type files with the nnfolder and/or nndoc backends. With efs, you can probably even do it over FTP. But not with IMAP yet. yes, but according to the documentation, reading an mbox file which is being appended to by another process (such as mail, deliver, procmail, etc) is a bad thing. the documented way around this, of course, is to have procmail filter mail into one mbox file and then have gnus regularly move it to an mbox of it's own. this would be ok if (a) i didn't have so many incoming folders and (b) i didn't also have to read my mail from numerous hosts with pine/imap...i don't want to have to reconfigure my mail filtering/reading tools on half a dozen hosts just to trial a new way of doing things. it's too much work, and if i end up not liking the new way then it's just as much work again to undo it. this wouldn't be an issue if gnus could do IMAP or if it could use a mail spool file which was shared RW with other processes. I'm sure that neither of these are in the too-hard basket for gnus (after all, pine can do it) but it's only going to get done if someone who can actually code emacs lisp (not me) has a need for it. so, i'll keep on using pine for email right now. and also keep on using gnus for reading news (and maybe set it up for reading/searching my archived mail folders). i've only been using gnus for a week now but i already like it better than anything i've used before (previously i was an 'nn' fan). if gnus ever does gain the capability to work with mail as i need it to then i'll happily switch to it. i am using gnus as a method of learning xemacs. i am really beginning to like the fact that in emacs and gnus i can switch from any buffer to any other buffer at any time. e.g. that means i don't have to finish writing a reply to a newsgroup in order to quickly scan another newsgroup for news of interest. i can see that would be very useful in mail too - i am often reading one of my mailing lists, or replying to a message in one, and need to read my main (/var/spool/mail/cas) inboxwith pine i have to close the current list and go to my inbox. with xemacs i wouldn't have to. i also like the fact that with VIPER, vi emulation is effectively built into the mail/news readerwith pine it takes a few seconds to run vi as an external process every time i want to edit a message. i'll gradually begin to use xemacs for other tasks too - editing config files and web pages and other text files that i currently use vi for. so yeah, i can see great benefitsbut not quite enough yet to make me change completely the way i deal with my mail. craig -- craig sanders networking consultant Available for casual or contract temporary autonomous zone system administration tasks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Printer-setup
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Gernot Bauer wrote: My printer prints all formats (ok, a printer is supposed to print ;) Thanx to all who replied. Especially Pat, Will and Lawrence. If others have the same problem: read the howto in /usr/doc/ (Printer-HOWTO), install magicfilter and run magicfilterconfig as root (delete /etc/printcap if you already got one that the config works). Is it as simple as that? Will I be able to print postscript to a HPLaserJet 5L without gs-alladin? Does magicfilter create a new /etc/printcap ?? Lucas Liacopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Concordia U.V. Montreal, Canada --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to multitask in X-windows?
On Tue, Sep 30, 1997 at 07:36:02PM -0400, ImmortaL wrote: : I need to know if there a way in x-windows for example in the shell itself : i would press the alt key and the F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 to open a new window is : there a way to do this in X? Uh, open another xterm. -- Jason Costomiris | VMS is about as secure as a poodle [EMAIL PROTECTED] | encased in a block of lucite http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom/ | about as useful, too. #include disclaimer.h | --some guy I read on Usenet -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
SVGALIB and S3 Virge.
Hello, I'm a _relative_ newbie to Linux. I'm a competent enough to get Debian 1.3.1 CD (from LSL) installed. I've gotten the kernel recompiled, and have gotten diald sound options compiled. My question, my only problem, the fly in the ointment of Linux, the black fly in my Chardonnay is that when I want to run a svgalib program (X works) at the console it doesn't recognize it and then -screws- it up.. basically, it runs, but it doesn't recognize my Virge chip. As I've looked through DejaNews for the solution to my problem, I've been unsuccessful in finding a solution that works. Some suggestions have hinted at faking svgalib into thinking it's the Trio chipset (which is basicially all Virge really is with some poor 3d functions strapped on top.) So, if anyone's had any luck getting this working, please post or email... Because xquake in a window simply doesn't cut it. :) Andrew Keen Student [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Is Debian Compatible?
Hi, I'm for the most part a unix novice. I would like to try the Debian package, but still be able to to use win95 on my machine (not simultaneously, of course). I would like Win95 to be my main operating system, and just use debian when i want to run unix based software. Is this possible? I'm also reluctant to use the HOWTO installation guide, because i don't want to wipe out my current windows setup, is the a HOWTO for people who want to use multi-OS's with debian? -Mike Manlief -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Announcing TIND: This Is Not Dselect
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Richard Kilgore wrote: It uses a /usr/bin/tixwish -- what package is this from? tix41 in section libs. Ahh yes, found it. The problem is that it depends on xlib6g, which conflicts with xlib6. Is there a bad side to removing xlib6 in favor of xlib6g? Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ * Good Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the Park. Bad Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the park ... to a bear. * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem installing debian
Hi, I have a quantum fireball ST6 IDE hardrive with Pentium II 233 cpu. I have 1 primary partion with win95 and 2 logical drives - one of them is empty for linux install the other one has windows nt. I am able to boot the rescue floppy but at the menu when I choose 'partition hard disk' I am getting a message thats saying hard drive could not be detected and to check cables or change driver settings at boot: prompt or load a driver. Thanks. Hasib _ Sent by RocketMail. Get your free e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is Debian Compatible?
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Michael Manlief wrote: Hi, I'm for the most part a unix novice. I would like to try the Debian package, but still be able to to use win95 on my machine (not simultaneously, of course). I would like Win95 to be my main operating system, and just use debian when i want to run unix based software. Is this possible? Surely. I do it (but I found eventually that I use Debian much more than Win95 :) ). You'll need to repartition your hard disk to make space for linux; this is possible with a few shareware utilities that are around. I've never had need for them, but I'm sure someone here can point you in the right direction. HOWTO for people who want to use multi-OS's with debian? I would check out the directory ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO for some of this info ... look for Howto's on Dos2linux, installation, etc. Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ * Good Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the Park. Bad Idea: Feeding Stray Cats in the park ... to a bear. * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Diald problem
Michael Legart wrote: Well, I just use the things scripts in /etc/diald. Not long ago, it worket fine but it looks like my isp has changest something... Before, the first question was : Annex username:, then Annex password:, and then at last: annex. The last one is now removed, but have have removed the part in the script, with the annex stuff. Allso, my modem hangs up, just 1-2 secs. after carrier detect. A quick look at the /etc/diald/connect script yielded the following: # When debugging a connection, set DEBUG to -v to increase chat's # verbosity and to report on this script's progress. WARNING: # THIS MIGHT CAUSE YOUR PASSWORD TO SHOW UP IN THE SYSTEM LOGS # DEBUG=-v I would suggest uncommenting the DEBUG=-v line and then looking in your system logs to see exactly what is going on. It should be a breeze to solve from there. Paul Serice -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is Debian Compatible?
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Michael Manlief wrote: Hi, I'm for the most part a unix novice. I would like to try the Debian package, but still be able to to use win95 on my machine (not simultaneously, of course). I would like Win95 to be my main operating system, and just use debian when i want to run unix based software. Is this possible? Surely. I do it (but I found eventually that I use Debian much more than Win95 :) ). You'll need to repartition your hard disk to make space for linux; this is possible with a few shareware utilities that are around. I've never had need for them, but I'm sure someone here can point you in the right direction. One word (3 times)...BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP!!! If you have stuff in your win95 drives that has value to you, then you *must* do the backup before you start. Having a known good backup of your data allows you the freedom to experiment with different configurations. It also provides for the inevitable Oops! that's sure to happen when you start doing some of this administrative-level stuff for the first time. It's easy to say that you won't do anything until you're *SURE* of the consequences. Much harder to pull it off. We've all had it happen to us one time or the other. If you don't have a backup device with enough capacity to backup your data easily, I'd suggest that you make that your next major purchase. After all, you are running Windows 95. I can't imagine that the DOS file-system takes kindly to the sorts of system crashes that seem to accompany some of the software that's out there... HOWTO for people who want to use multi-OS's with debian? I would check out the directory ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO for some of this info ... look for Howto's on Dos2linux, installation, etc. I agree with Will. Read the HOWTO's from Sunsite and ask the list if any specific issue seems to be confusing. FIPS is a nice tool for DOS file-systems - though you have to do some planning to make sure you don't end-up with a DOS partition that has a cluster size a lot bigger than you need! FIPS does not (at least the versions I used many moons ago...) change cluster size. Therefore, try to create a *new* partition that's the size you want for DOS. Format the partition and then copy the data over to the new one. Reboot to test things before you delete the original partition. Once you're sure that the DOS/Windows stuff is still OK (oxymoron anyone?) recreate the partition(s) needed for Linux. I'd recommend two partitions for the beginner - one as swap, one as file-system. Later, you can check the usage of various branches of the file-system and then backup/recreate/restore to a layout with multiple partitions (preferred). Good luck. Chuck -- Chuck Stickelman, Owner E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Practical Network DesignVoice: (419) 529-3841 9 Chambers Road FAX:(419) 529-3625 Mansfield, OH 44906-1302 USA -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ZIP IDE
The zip IDE is not a scsi device; the scsi driver won't work with it. However, I believe there is support for it in the new developmental 2.1.x kernels, something having to do with having full IDE ATAPI support. I don't know what the status of it is though. On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Chad D. Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Pierre GAMBAROTTO wrote: All is in the subject. How can I use a iomega zip with an IDE interface with linux ? By default the kernel has support precompiled in for zip. As long as it is connected at turn on, it will be found as /dev/sda4 (or sba4, i forget which) Other wise, compile a kernal, include scsi support, zip is under the scsi section. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southwest Technology Development Institute New Mexico State University --- HP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/ DBP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Debian/ LCAO: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Las_Cruces_Art/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ZIP IDE
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Steve Hsieh wrote: Actually ... it is a scsi... parallel port is a kind of scsi and under linux is seen as a true scsi device (and is faster than in dos) Here is how it comes up: scsi0 : PPA driver version 0.26 using 4-bit mode on port 0x378. scsi : 1 host. Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100 Rev: D.09 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 scsi : detected 1 SCSI disk total. SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 196608 [96 MB] [0.1 GB] sda: Write Protect is off Partition check: sda: sda4 My kernel is 2.0.30 Now, there have been troubles with the internal model, maybe we are talking about that one and not the external one? Chad The zip IDE is not a scsi device; the scsi driver won't work with it. However, I believe there is support for it in the new developmental 2.1.x kernels, something having to do with having full IDE ATAPI support. I don't know what the status of it is though. On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Chad D. Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Pierre GAMBAROTTO wrote: All is in the subject. How can I use a iomega zip with an IDE interface with linux ? By default the kernel has support precompiled in for zip. As long as it is connected at turn on, it will be found as /dev/sda4 (or sba4, i forget which) Other wise, compile a kernal, include scsi support, zip is under the scsi section. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southwest Technology Development Institute New Mexico State University --- HP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/ DBP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Debian/ LCAO: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Las_Cruces_Art/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Chad D. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Southwest Technology Development Institute New Mexico State University --- HP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/ DBP: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Debian/ LCAO: http://dabcc-www.nmsu.edu/~chad/Las_Cruces_Art/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bo-updates
Hi! I may be wrong, but: When bo-updates had the same structure as stable, non-free and contrib, one could in fact use dselect to install the bo-updates, just by typing Enter space seperated list of distributions to get [stable non-free contrib]: stable non-free contrib bo-updates This would be a good solution, stable stays stable! And creating these sub-directories wouldn't be _that_ hard... or am I missing something? Yes, you are :) You don't need those subdirectories, but just one plain Packages.gz file in bo-updates/ Alex Y. -- _ _( )_ ( (o___ +---+ | _ 7 |Alexander Yukhimets| \()| http://pages.nyu.edu/~aqy6633/ | / \ \ +---+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
ssh going nuts!
Hi, In our group we have a single Debian machine surrounded by a bunch of Redhats:( We have secure shell installed on all, but it behaves weird on Redhats from time to time. The problem is that when you try to get a remote shell using ssh, you may be denied access to the remote host and get the message you don't exist, go away!. I suppose it's a bug, as it doesn't happen all the time and moreover, if you keep on trying after a couple of failures, you finally get through! Any clue? Regards, Peyman -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
email to pager software???
Hello, I'm working on a project to handle email-to-pager service. I found a software tool to do so, but the C program segfaults. Can anyone suggest a software package, and/or volunteer to help me debug the problem? Thanks, Pete -- Peter J. Templin, Jr. Network Administrator JD-WEB Computer Sales and Service 429 Market St. (717) 523-6800 Lewisburg, PA 17837 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to multitask in X-windows?
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:04:53 -0400, Jason Costomiris wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 1997 at 07:36:02PM -0400, ImmortaL wrote: : I need to know if there a way in x-windows for example in the shell itself : i would press the alt key and the F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 to open a new window is : there a way to do this in X? Uh, open another xterm. Think you missed him. Under X it's crtl-alt-Fx instead of just alt-Fx - http://www.psychosis.com/emc/ Elite MicroComputers 908-541-4214 http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/ Linux Router Project -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ZIP IDE
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Chad D. Zimmerman wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Steve Hsieh wrote: Actually ... it is a scsi... parallel port is a kind of scsi and under linux is seen as a true scsi device (and is faster than in dos) Are you talking about the same thing as everybody else? (Hint: look at the subject.) Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mrouted?
Lawrence wrote: what is mrouted? where to get it? mrouted (multicast router daemon) is the daemon you run to enable your machine to be a part of the MBONE. It forwards IP multicast packets via a unicast tunnel past non-IP-Multicast-aware routers to another machine running mrouted or a router that can handle IP Multicast packets. The existance of the MBONE is rather ingenious: since most Internet routers can't handle IP multicast yet, the MBONE (Multicast backBONE) started out as a small (but now large) collection machines running mrouted and the unicast tunnels between them. As IP multicast becomes more common in routers, the MBONE will melt into the Internet as running mrouted will become unnecessary. I believe a similar approach will be taken for IPv6 and so on. Where you get it depends on the platform, I didn't look but there might be Debian package for it. There is a good collection of references at: http://www-itg.lbl.gov/mbone#reflinks HTH, Keith -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Announcing TIND: This Is Not Dselect
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Will Lowe wrote: Ahh yes, found it. The problem is that it depends on xlib6g, which conflicts with xlib6. Is there a bad side to removing xlib6 in favor of xlib6g? Yes, you'll break all your X packages. The proper solution is to upgrade to a version of xlib6 that xlib6g doesn't conflict with. That is also located in unstable. If you haven't upgraded yet, check out my howto at http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/ -- |The mark of your ignorance is the depth of Scott K. Ellis| your belief in injustice and tragedy. [EMAIL PROTECTED]| What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, | the master calls a butterfly. | -- Illusions -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Printer-setup
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, L. L. CoolAid wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Gernot Bauer wrote: My printer prints all formats (ok, a printer is supposed to print ;) Thanx to all who replied. Especially Pat, Will and Lawrence. If others have the same problem: read the howto in /usr/doc/ (Printer-HOWTO), install magicfilter and run magicfilterconfig as root (delete /etc/printcap if you already got one that the config works). Is it as simple as that? Will I be able to print postscript to a HPLaserJet 5L without gs-alladin? Does magicfilter create a new /etc/printcap ?? It probably will create a new printcap, but magicfilter, apsfilter, etc., still need ghostscript. Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to multitask in X-windows?
On Tue, Sep 30, 1997 at 10:57:00PM -0500, Dave Cinege wrote: : On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:04:53 -0400, Jason Costomiris wrote: : : On Tue, Sep 30, 1997 at 07:36:02PM -0400, ImmortaL wrote: : : I need to know if there a way in x-windows for example in the shell itself : : i would press the alt key and the F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 to open a new window is : : there a way to do this in X? : : Uh, open another xterm. : : Think you missed him. I dunno about that. He asked how to get another shell window under X. I told him how -- Jason Costomiris | VMS is about as secure as a poodle [EMAIL PROTECTED] | encased in a block of lucite http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom/ | about as useful, too. #include disclaimer.h | --some guy I read on Usenet -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is Debian Compatible?
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Michael Manlief wrote: Hi, I'm for the most part a unix novice. I would like to try the Debian package, but still be able to to use win95 on my machine (not simultaneously, of course). I would like Win95 to be my main operating system, and just use debian when i want to run unix based software. Is this possible? I'm also reluctant to use the HOWTO installation guide, because i don't want to wipe out my current windows setup, is the a HOWTO for people who want to use multi-OS's with debian? You don't have to wipe out Win95, but you should consider backing it up, as any repartitioning can be risky (although I have never had a problem with either fips or Partition Magic). Look in the mini HOWTO directory, which has quite a few examples: Linux+DOS+Win95+OS2 Linux+DOS+Win95 Linux+OS2+DOS Linux+Win95 Linux+WinNT Win95+Win+Linux Caution, you may find yourself using Win95 less and Linux more as time goes on. Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mono monitor with x (fwd)
Addressed to: Lazar Fleysher [EMAIL PROTECTED] debian-user@lists.debian.org ** Reply to note from Lazar Fleysher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 30 Sep 1997 13:16:14 -0600 (MDT) I have an old Hercules card and monitor. (I do not know whether being old matters). In /etc/X11/XF86Config file I use HorizSync 18.43 VertRefresh 50 Mode: 720x350 Modeline 720x350 18.43 720 760 800 820 350 360 475 400 Note: All numbers in Modeline I took from sky except 720 and 350 of course. Nevertheless, it works o.k. If the above is to the point I can send you full XF86Config file. If you (or anyone else who knows about doing this) could send me the config files, it would be very much appreciated. I just starting to setup Debian on an old system that uses a Herc monitor so being able to run XWindows on it sounds really interesting. Thanks for any info you can provide.:-) It's A Magical World, Hobbes, Ol' Buddy... ...Let's Go Exploring ! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Disapearing /dev/tty0's
Chad D. Zimmerman writes: I have had an interesting problem rear it's ugly head two times now .. my /dev/tty0's get SNAFUed for some reason. This is what they look like normally: tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16450 tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A tty03 at 0x02e8 (irq = 3) is a 16450 Remap either 01 or 03 to a different interrupt. The hardware interrupts are not able to realiably run multiple devices on the same interrupt. I had the same problem until I remapped ttyS03 to IRQ2. -- -= Sent by Debian 1.2 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK - member of ARRL @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Enlightenment setup
When firing up X (startx) with Enlightenment as wm the following error message appears: Cannot load root image: /usr/local/enlightenment/images/default/background.jpg Quitting... Any ideas, anyone? Background.jpg is in the specified directory. Both ImageMagick and Imlib are on the system (which is Debian 1.3.1) TIA Adrian Monk -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
pascal
Hi, Could someone tell me which debian package provides pascal support ? Thanks very much George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
wu-ftpd and Shadow Passwords
Greetings, Does the compiled version of wu-ftpd have support for shadow passwords. For some reason, as soon as anyone tries to log in (not anonymous) it says there are too many users and dumps you. I recently switched to shadow passwords and didn't know if there was a known problem. Also, I noticed the shadow file had a different group then root and I changed it ... perhaps that had something to do with it but I forgot what the group was. Any help out there? Thanks, -- Tim -- Timothy G. Wells Good News Internet Services E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 513-662-4443 Web: www.goodnews.net FAX: 513-662-8461 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Enlightenment setup
Adrian Monk hat gesagt: // Adrian Monk wrote: When firing up X (startx) with Enlightenment as wm the following error message appears: Cannot load root image: /usr/local/enlightenment/images/default/background.jpg Quitting... Any ideas, anyone? Background.jpg is in the specified directory. Both ImageMagick and Imlib are on the system (which is Debian 1.3.1) TIA Adrian Monk What version of Enlightenment are you using? The current ones keep all images, menu- and button-definitions in a tar(gz)ball, a so called theme e.g. DEFAULT. Take a tar-look (tar tzvf DEFAULT) in your theme to see if background.jpg is there. It should be possible to extract a theme ball into a directory, but I have seen this fail with enl_DR10 on my machine. Now I use [so slow :(] enl_DR12. -- Yours, Frank Barknecht a href=http://www.koeln-online.de/einblick/; Das Koelner Stadt- und Unimagazin /a --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
where is libjpegg
Where I can found libjpegg (I installed the glibc compiled xv and I can' use it without these libs :). Thanks. Andreas Arcangeli -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
what is the sticky bit?
I know this is a really stupid question.. but what is the sticky bit? -Paul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Advice printing on a network Laserjet 4L
I have read all the man pages and HOWTO but I still have a problem printing on a novel network laserjet. I have finally found a way to print postscript documents but I cannot print plain text or dvi format. Any ideas? // Daniel J. Mashao -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel // -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ssh going nuts!
On Sep 30, Peyman Gohari wrote In our group we have a single Debian machine surrounded by a bunch of Redhats:( We have secure shell installed on all, but it behaves weird on Redhats from time to time. The problem is that when you try to get a remote shell using ssh, you may be denied access to the remote host and get the message you don't exist, go away!. I suppose it's a bug, as it doesn't happen all the time and moreover, if you keep on trying after a couple of failures, you finally get through! Any clue? It could very well be PAM related. This came by on the PAM development list; as there is currently no archive of that list available, I'll include it. |Date: 22 Sep 1997 22:19:08 GMT |From: Henrik Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To: ssh@clinet.fi |Subject: Re: ssh redhat4.2: You don't exist, go away! |In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], |[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Henrik Seidel ) writes: | | I have the following problem with ssh 1.2.21 on a Redhat 4.2 Linux | system: I can call ssh once to connect to another of our local hosts | (with home crossmounted). However, after exiting that ssh any new attempt | fails with You don't exist, go away!. After some time (timeout??) I can | connect again. This time is in the range of minutes. | |Just some more information: The problem occurs only for users from NIS, not |for those with entries in /etc/passwd. Using something like this | | for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do ssh remotehost; done | |usually gives some successful ssh interspersed between many Go aways. | |This is not a general NIS or Linux problem but rather Redhat-specific, |since on another system I manage (Slackware 3.0) it does not occur. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: what is the sticky bit?
Paul Miller wrote: I know this is a really stupid question.. but what is the sticky bit? -Paul The sticky bit allows a UID to be the owner of a file while that file is being accessed by that user. In essence if a user opens a file, that user will be the owner of that file until it is closed. After closing, the file goes back to its original state. I THINK Peter -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: SVGALIB and S3 Virge.
Andrew Keen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My question, my only problem, the fly in the ointment of Linux, the black fly in my Chardonnay is that when I want to run a svgalib program (X works) at the console it doesn't recognize it and then -screws- it up.. basically, it runs, but it doesn't recognize my Virge chip. The svgalib (1.2.11) in unstable pretends a Virge is Trio. It's not as good as it could be, but it works for me (Diamond Stealth 3D 2000). You could have some trouble installing it on Debian 1.3.1. My advice would be to get the source and try to compile it yourself. -- Carey Evans * http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ gc kernel: Warning: possible SYN flooding. Sending cookies. kernel: validated probe(17f, 17f, 11557, 5010, -1645409555) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
problems posting news
Hi, I can't find anthing in the docs about this, and I'm sure it's something simple I've just overlooked... When I post news from my machine, I get mail back with inews: No valid newsgroups in misc.test The setup is my local machine, with: ii nntp1.5.12.1-1 A NNTP server for use with C News. ii inews 2.1-2 A replacement for the C News inews program. ii cnews cr.g7-4Simple News Server for Usenet news. and I'm trying to send news to an nntp server. Do I have to have an up-to-date /var/lib/news/active file? I guess I'd rather that the server looked after all that, since I have no local newsgroups (as yet...). Any ideas what I've missed? Thanks in advance. -- Tim Bell .--_|\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ Department of Computer Science \_.--._/ University of Melbourne, Australia v -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: wu-ftpd and Shadow Passwords
On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Timothy G. Wells wrote: I recently switched to shadow passwords and didn't know if there was a known problem. Also, I noticed the shadow file had a different group then root and I changed it ... perhaps that had something to do with it but I forgot what the group was. The group is shadow with read access only. Brandon - Brandon Mitchell E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7877/home.html PGP: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds. --Linus Torvalds -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Advice printing on a network Laserjet 4L
On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Dr. Daniel Mashao wrote: I have read all the man pages and HOWTO but I still have a problem printing on a novel network laserjet. I have finally found a way to print postscript documents but I cannot print plain text or dvi format. Any ideas? text: some printers (e.g. hplj6) see ascii as 'dos ascii': they need cr/lf instead of lf at the end of each line. So simply add the cr. dvi: use dvips to convert dvi to ps. // Daniel J. Mashao -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ee.uct.ac.za/~daniel // -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Printer-setup
On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Lucas wrote: I am presently using a2ps and gs-alladin to format text files into postscript and then print them using gs. If I create a script containing the gs command, this could be my print filter in the printcap file (don't remember if it's if or of). My problem is that whenever I issue the gs command to print something formatted by a2ps, the output always includes one extra blank page and the last printed page (before the blank one) always looks like the last line of print has been cut off by about a fraction of a millimeter. My theory is that the papersize used by either program is incompatible. I believe gs is using what it calls letter defined as 8.5x11 and a2ps is using something with some code which I can't remember but which looks like an ISO standard ... or something. Hi, i am the maintainer of gs-aladdin. Both gs-aladdin and a2ps use the libpaper library to set the papersize (in brief: they use the paper which appears in /etc/papersize), so the papersizes should be compatible. (Are you using old versions of the packages?) Anyway, you can select the papersize for gs-aladdin with option -sPAPERSIZE=a_known_paper_size, e.g., gs -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sDEVICE=lj_something test.gs or with the options -sDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=xxx and -sDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=yyy (probably there is also an option to select the papersize for a2ps, but it is not installed here...) You could also prove to redirect the output of a2ps to a file and to use ghostview to check if it looks correctly. Thanks, Marco == Marco Pistore email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Pisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: ++39 (50) 40031 Gnu/Debian Linux TeX/Latex fanfax: ++39 (50) 887 226 == -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: bo-updates
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Alex Yukhimets wrote: ... This would be a good solution, stable stays stable! And creating these sub-directories wouldn't be _that_ hard... or am I missing something? Yes, you are :) You don't need those subdirectories, but just one plain Packages.gz file in bo-updates/ So it would be even simpler!? So let's do it! Who can do it? -- Lukas Eppler (godot) http://www.fear.ch telnet://soil.fear.ch: talk:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Advice printing on a network Laserjet 4L
On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Dr. Daniel Mashao wrote: I have read all the man pages and HOWTO but I still have a problem printing on a novel network laserjet. I have finally found a way to print postscript documents but I cannot print plain text or dvi format. Any ideas? a2ps and dvips will do the requested conversions. Brandon - Brandon Mitchell E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7877/home.html PGP: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds. --Linus Torvalds -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: pascal
c Hi, Could someone tell me which debian package provides pascal support ? devel/gpc-doc_2.0-3.deb@ devel/gpc_2.0-3.deb@ -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/) #what's this? see http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ifconfig
At 12:51 PM 9/30/97 -0500, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote: Jimmy Lu wrote: Hi, Can someone tell me how to setup a machine with one network interface card(eth0) to respond to more than one IP address? FreeBSD seems to be able to do something as follows: ifconfig ep0 192.168.123.2 ifconfig ep0 192.168.123.3 alias netmask 0x I checked man page of ifconfig but I still don't know how to do it in under Debian. Please kindly let me know. I believe the syntax is: ifconfig eth0 192.168.123.2 ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.123.3 You're right. But you have to enable IP Aliasing in your kernel. Is your kernel enabled? Run make config and be sure to enable this option. Cheers Bruno This is from memory and I'm not positive. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: wu-ftpd and Shadow Passwords
Greetings, Does the compiled version of wu-ftpd have support for shadow passwords. For some reason, as soon as anyone tries to log in (not anonymous) it says there are too many users and dumps you. ii wu-ftpd 2.4-27 A powerful replacement for the standard ftpd Works OK for me (with shadow passwords switched on). This is on a computer wich I updated to unstable last friday. -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/) #what's this? see http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X and gpm mouse problem
I'm not sure if it's a bug, but it is an annoyance: When xdm is launched, and I do not move the mouse, i have no pointer on the virtual console. In fact, gpm is not working. When I switch back to X, I have to move the mouse. At the first time, there is a shortdelay, then the pointer follows. Switching back to console, gpm is working flawless. Befar that, all is working. I have gpm 1.12-6 and X 3.3-1, my mouse is a serial one. Any comments? Somebody else experience it? TIA, Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god. Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is Debian Compatible?
On Tue, Sep 30, 1997 at 09:09:08PM -0400, Will Lowe wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Michael Manlief wrote: Hi, I'm for the most part a unix novice. I would like to try the Debian package, but still be able to to use win95 on my machine (not simultaneously, of course). I would like Win95 to be my main operating system, and just use debian when i want to run unix based software. Is this possible? Surely. I do it (but I found eventually that I use Debian much more than Win95 :) ). You'll need to repartition your hard disk to make space for linux; this is possible with a few shareware utilities that are around. I've never had need for them, but I'm sure someone here can point you in the right direction. It is FIPS.EXE, available via ftp. (I can mail it, too). Read the doc before starting. Marcus -- Rhubarb is no Egyptian god. Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Advice printing on a network Laserjet 4L
I have read all the man pages and HOWTO but I still have a problem printing on a novel network laserjet. I have finally found a way to print postscript documents but I cannot print plain text or dvi format. Any ideas? Well, if you can print postscript, you can - use a2ps (from contrib/non-free in bo, or hamm main), or genscript/enscript to convert ascii to postscript (though most printers I know do accept straight ascii too) - use dvips (included in Debian's TeX packages) to convert dvi to ps. -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/) #what's this? see http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Advice printing on a network Laserjet 4L
HI! I have read all the man pages and HOWTO but I still have a problem printing on a novel network laserjet. I have finally found a way to print postscript documents but I cannot print plain text or dvi format. Any ideas? Convert anything you want to print to PostScript first, then send it to the printer. Magicfilter does this for me. feri. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to multitask in X-windows?
Actually your both right because my question can go both ways it doesnt matter they both are helpful BUT,i tried both ways and they dont work for example if i enter X and start netscape and then go back to Xterm i cant enter any commands its locked until i kill netscape,i tried it only with Xterm i opened two Xterms but the first one didnt work after i opened the second one.Then tried the Virtual way Ctrl-alt-Fx and when i did that and a new logon screen came on and then when i went back to X there was no X there was a shell screen and it showed all the usual commands when X starts and it was locked.and i cant do anything so i have to kill it.Do you have to be running XDM for it to work?Or do you have any idea why this wont work? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in article [EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Tue, Sep 30, 1997 at 10:57:00PM -0500, Dave Cinege wrote: : On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:04:53 -0400, Jason Costomiris wrote: : : On Tue, Sep 30, 1997 at 07:36:02PM -0400, ImmortaL wrote: : : I need to know if there a way in x-windows for example in the shell itself : : i would press the alt key and the F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 to open a new window is : : there a way to do this in X? : : Uh, open another xterm. : : Think you missed him. I dunno about that. He asked how to get another shell window under X. I told him how -- Jason Costomiris | VMS is about as secure as a poodle [EMAIL PROTECTED] | encased in a block of lucite http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom/ | about as useful, too. #include disclaimer.h | --some guy I read on Usenet -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
pascal (cont)
Hi, Thanks to all who replied to my question. I have juct installed gpc on my system . However, it requires gcc 2.7.2.2 So I downgraded gcc to 2.7.2.1 I was wondering whether it would be possible to have the newest gcc ( 2.7.2.3 ) together with gpc . Does anyone know if this is possible or when the newest version of gpc will be available Thanks very much George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X And Video
On Thu, 25 Sep 1997, Syd Alsobrook wrote: I am having an interesting problem now. I finally got my new machine to boot up and I reset my X configuration for my new video card. X works great but when I exit back to a stand tty the video is trashed (misc. characters, garbage, and general bad mood) reset does not work and all virtual tty are trashed. The video board is a STB Systems w/ an advanced logic chipset alg2301 1024 ram. STB's website was rather useless mostly windows crap the only thing I saw that might be of interest was the need to have a memory exclusion, but I don't know how to do that under linux. I have a 486 with an Avance card that uses this chip, and it had the same problem. The garbage that you see is actually a translation, something like abcdefgh - bcdefg0h, so you can actually read it. The workaround I used was to leave at least one VC logged in and type setfont default8x16 whenever I needed a VC, and the same when quitting X. I never found any documentation for memory exclusion, but perhaps it's in the X sources. I now use the machine as a laboratory winlose playground. -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mke2fs
On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, Philippe Troin wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:32:21 PDT David Stern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm having an irregular experience with mke2fs. I'm attempting to format /dev/sda16 and message says: debian# mke2fs -v /dev/sda16 mke2fs 1.10, 24-Apr-97 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09 /dev/sda16 is entire device, not just one partition! Proceed anyway? (y,n) But /dev/sda16 is just a 500MB partition, not an entire device: [...] I tried changing the beginning and ending cylinders, to no avail. Why does mke2fs think /dev/sda16 is the entire drive? Because /dev/sda16 has major 8, minor 16, which is the major/minor pair for /dev/sdb: look at 'ls -l /dev/sda16 /dev/sdb'. BTW, you have created sda16 yourself didn't you :-) There is an infortunate 15 partition limit on PCs. I think anyone who installed Debian 1.3 with the 1997-05-30 installation floppies will have exactly the same devices. All mine do. Now I feel guilty for complaining that Debian 1.2 only had sdx1 through 8 (which bit me badly). [BTW I think you posted that Because /dev ... didn't you :-) all on one line.] -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mke2fs
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, David Stern wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, Philippe Troin wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:32:21 PDT David Stern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I tried changing the beginning and ending cylinders, to no avail. Why does mke2fs think /dev/sda16 is the entire drive? Because /dev/sda16 has major 8, minor 16, which is the major/minor pair for /dev/sdb: look at 'ls -l /dev/sda16 /dev/sdb'. BTW, you have created sda16 yourself didn't you :-) I created it during the install procedure manually, yes. You created the device (with mknod), or created the partition? Do you have (as I do) /dev/sda16 = /dev/sdb /dev/sdb16 = /dev/sdc /dev/sdc16 = /dev/sdd /dev/sdd16 = /dev/sde /dev/sde16 = /dev/sdf /dev/sdf16 = /dev/sdg /dev/sdg16 = /dev/sdh -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: problems posting news
On 01-Oct-97 Tim Bell wrote: Do I have to have an up-to-date /var/lib/news/active file? I guess I'd rather that the server looked after all that, since I have no local newsgroups (as yet...). Yes, you will need an active file. Inews can not post to a group that is not found in the active file as it looks there to see if the group is moderated or not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
/msdos partition
Hi I'd like to know is it true that read/write file on a /msdos partition is slower than on the linux partition? I've a 60MB tar file that I tried to untar under both /msdos and linux ext2fs and the /msdos was extremely slow. Thanks! -- Timothy C. Phan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) NEC America, Inc. ASL 1525 Walnut Hill Ln. Irving, TX 75038 tel: (214)-518-3437 fax: (214)-518-3499 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: what is the sticky bit?
Forwarded with Changes --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at ~AMSCCSSW Date: 10/1/97 9:57AM To: James M. Lewis at ~TENCCT1 *To: debian-user@lists.debian.org at ~AMSCCSSW Subject: Re: what is the sticky bit? --- Actually, the sticky bit used to be for binary programs. It caused the program to be retained in the swap file after it was first run. This would cause the prog to run faster the next time it was invoked. Way back when (in the olden days), unix would exec a program by copying it into swap and then allowing the page mechanism to page it into memory for execution. This is not the case anymore. As far as I know, the sticky bit on an executable file does nothing. On some systems, the sticky bit on a _directory_ means that only the owner of a file in that directory can remove it. DEC OSF1 is like this, for example. jim __ Forward Header __ Subject: Re: what is the sticky bit? Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at ~AMSCCSSW Date:10/1/97 9:57 AM Paul Miller wrote: I know this is a really stupid question.. but what is the sticky bit? -Paul The sticky bit allows a UID to be the owner of a file while that file is being accessed by that user. In essence if a user opens a file, that user will be the owner of that file until it is closed. After closing, the file goes back to its original state. I THINK Peter -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
PVM packaging
Hi, I'm interested in packaging PVM for Debian. First, let me say that I'm aware that Drake Diedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] is working on it, but I've had the intention to package something big for Debian for couple of months (I've packaged small stuff locally) and I think this is be a good candidate since I need it for my work and I'm getting tired of woops, I forgot to do THAT on THIS machine kind of problems. Probably Drake can do a better job, but I'd like to try anyway. What I'm trying to say here is that I don't intend to make my packaging the official one, I just want to give it a shot. I've read the relevant documentation (debian/doc/package-developer) and I have a couple of questions. * Directory structure This thing wants to be installed with a tree structure like this: $PVM_ROOT +- bin/LINUX +- console/LINUX +- include +- documentation and stuff like that (tests, examples) That breaks the FSSTND. I can try to convince it to forget about the LINUX part (it's required for NFS hosted installations on a mixed OS enviroment), i.e., that means reading and fixing the code with each release... not funny. I checked some packages that are problematic on this respect, like Acroread, I've found that they get installed in /usr/lib/program/whatever_the_program_wants. Is that OK with the FSSTND? I may be misinterpreting the document, but IMHO, I don't think it is. /usr/lib says libraries, not entire programs. * Where do I have to develop things? The machine I use to compile and test pvm has bo; I cann't convert it to hamm, it's out of the question (I'd like to, but cann't). I have access to a least three computers running hamm. If I want to make the package official, I have to build it using hamm, don't I? * PVM has a very loose license (basically it says you can use it provided that you keep this copyright appears in all copies ...). Should a get something more specific or is it enough? (For an official package, that is) TIA, Marcelo E Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Astrophysics Lab -- University of Costa Rica -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: losing keys in fvwm2
I have found that, whenever I exit Netscape (3.01 in my case), I cannot alt-arrow to shift virtual screens. However, if I user the page and click into another virtual screen, the alt-arrow keys will again work. I have not tried other fvwm2 keystrokes and I am sure that I only see this happen when exiting Netscape. Paul On 29-Sep-97 Will Lowe wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote: At times, the keystrokes for fvwm2 simply stop working. Particularly, alt-arrow to shift virtual screens, alt-f9 (to icocnify) and the like, and teh alt-click combinations to move windows forward/back. Slap me if you've tried this, but turning numlock on in X does all sorts of funky things to alt and function keys. I often find (particularly using forms in netscape) that I turn on numlock, and then spend half an hour trying to figure out why my keyboard doesn't work anymore ... turn off numlock and it goes away. Will -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Advice printing on a network Laserjet 4L
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Dr. Daniel Mashao wrote: I have read all the man pages and HOWTO but I still have a problem printing on a novel network laserjet. I have finally found a way to print postscript documents but I cannot print plain text or dvi format. Any ideas? Install magicfilter. I love it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBNDJuRyqK7IlOjMLFAQHzJgP9EcUWqgCU5fjNMukn1iVOx1QYvt9BhHB+ lUnq5x0ojBffnmqzwLek6s6jY5AkSG7Fugx6hM6zo+a+QVBVd1SPh3ukrtD+fmMj VDv3h/YoyWEXmLvf1dzt+VXwbHSLhEfixyb6sELesyn6tJ+SgOF1fcd9VsxIVWH0 MJoIW7gqMHI= =eXsO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xdm problem
I recently installed 1.3.1 from CDROM; this is my first linux installation. Most of it went pretty smoothly, but I still have a couple of problems. One of that I can't get xdm to work. (If I reconfigure to use startx everything works fine). Running xdm -debug 2 gives the following output and then stops: DisplayManager.errorLogFile/DisplayManager.ErrorLogFile value /var/log/xdm-errors DisplayManager.daemonMode/DisplayManager.DaemonMode value true DisplayManager.pidFile/DisplayManager.PidFile value /var/run/xdm-pid DisplayManager.lockPidFile/DisplayManager.LockPidFile value true DisplayManager.authDir/DisplayManager.authDir value /var/lib/xdm DisplayManager.autoRescan/DisplayManager.AutoRescan value true DisplayManager.removeDomainname/DisplayManager.RemoveDomainname value true DisplayManager.keyFile/DisplayManager.KeyFile value /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-keys DisplayManager.accessFile/DisplayManager.AccessFile value /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess DisplayManager.exportList/DisplayManager.ExportList value DisplayManager.randomFile/DisplayManager.RandomFile value /dev/mem DisplayManager.greeterLib/DisplayManager.GreeterLib value /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/libXdmGreet.so DisplayManager.choiceTimeout/DisplayManager.ChoiceTimeout value 15 DisplayManager.sourceAddress/DisplayManager.SourceAddress value false creating socket 177 Created chooser socket 5 WaitForSomething How do I get this to work? -Chris --JAA29452.875712752/gatekeeper.wadsworth.org-- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Pascal question
Hi, I have installed the pascal package and downgraded my gcc to 2.7.2.1 for compatibility reasons. In the beginning I got some errors concerning files the package could find By linking then I got through that stage .Now I am getting the following errors garfield:/usr/home/guest$ gpc program~pdp~.txt ld:program~pdp~.txt: file format not recognized; treating as linker script ld:program~pdp~.txt:1: parse error Running the strace command gives access(/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/crtn.o, R_OK) = 0 access(/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/ld, X_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access(/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/ld, X_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access(/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/ld, X_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access(/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux/ld, X_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access(/usr/i486-linux/bin/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/ld, X_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access(/usr/i486-linux/bin/ld, X_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) fork() = 1160 wait4(-1, ld:program~pdp~.txt: file format not recognized; treating as linker script ld:program~pdp~.txt:1: parse error [WIFEXITED(s) WEXITSTATUS(s) == 1], 0, NULL) = 1160 --- SIGCHLD (Child exited) --- _exit(1)= ? It is looking for the command ld in /usr/lib/gcc... and can't find Can anyone tell me what is going on ? The program is not my own but the person who gave it to me told me it had no bugs. Any help will be appreciated Thanks George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: what is the sticky bit?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I know this is a really stupid question.. but what is the sticky bit? It's the tenth bit of the 12 bits of permission flags that are part of an inode (or file, though they're not really interchangable). The bits are Set uid, set gid, Sticky, read,write,execute for owner, rwx group, rwx other The sticky bit nowadays only has a function on directories, where it, when set, prevents anyone but the owner of a file in the directory from removing that file. It's commonly set on /tmp, /var/tmp, /var/spool/mail, and other directories where many people need permission to create files, but should be prevented from interfering with other peoples files. /Anders -- -- Of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong. Anders Hammarquist | Mud at Kingdoms| [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetGuide Scandinavia | telnet kingdoms.se 1812| Fax: +46 31 50 79 39 http://www.netg.se | | Tel: +46 31 50 79 40 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: what is the sticky bit?
Hi, From TFM: File: fileutils.info, Node: Mode Structure, Next: Symbolic Modes, Up: File p\ ermissions Structure of File Permissions = [...] A file's permissions have three special components, which affect only executable files (programs) and, on some systems, directories: 1. set the process's effective user ID to that of the file upon execution (called the setuid bit). No effect on directories. 2. set the process's effective group ID to that of the file upon execution (called the setgid bit). For directories on some systems, put files created in the directory into the same group as the directory, no matter what group the user who creates them is in. 3. save the program's text image on the swap device so it will load more quickly when run (called the sticky bit). For directories on some systems, prevent users from removing files that they do not own in the directory; this is called making the directory append-only. manoj -- All I kin say is when you finds yo'self wanderin' in a peach orchard, ya don't go lookin' for rutabagas. Kingfish Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: No Debian updates?
Hi, I think the company/ group of people who are supposed to create this distribution are called the quality control/testing group. This is theoretically composed of people who are not necessarily maintainers, so they do not have to worry about new software. Maybe this should be taken up with the people in charge of the testing/ quality assurance groups? Are the groups still active? Am I mis remembering things? manoj -- Remember thee Ay, thou poor ghost while memory holds a seat In this distracted globe. Remember thee! Yea, from the table of my memory I'll wipe away all trivial fond records, All saws of books, all forms, all pressures past, That youth and observation copied there. Hamlet, I : v : 95 William Shakespeare Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: what is the sticky bit?
Paul Miller wrote: I know this is a really stupid question.. but what is the sticky bit? The sticky bit overcomes a problem with file permissions in Unix. Specifically, the ability to create/delete a file in a given directory depends on the *directory permissions*. When the sticky bit is set, on a directory, the *owner* of files in that directory may remove the files. An example will make this clear. Suppose my system has a user, 'foo'. Let us assume the following commands are run by someone logged in as root: mylinux# cd ~foo mylinux# echo 'I dare you to delete this' make_my_day mylinux# chmod 600 make_my_day mylinux# pwd /home/foo mylinux# ls -l make_my_day -rw--- 1 root root0 Oct 1 11:11 /home/foo/make_my_day mylinux# Now user foo logs in and does the following: mylinux$ whoami foo mylinux$ pwd /home/foo mylinux$ cat make_my_day cat: make_my_day: Permission denied mylinux$ ls -ld . drwx--x--x 27 foo foo 3072 Oct 1 11:13 . mylinux$ rm make_my_day rm: remove `make_my_day', overriding mode 0600? y mylinux$ ls -l make_my_day ls: make_my_day: No such file or directory mylinux$ Suprised?! Don't be. In a unix file system a directory is basically a special file. The act of creating or deleting a file from a directory consists (obviously there's a little more which must happen) of creating/removing entries in this special file. Thus it is the permissions on a *directory* which determine whether or not a file may be created-in/removed-from a directory. Anytime you want to have a directory be shared by many users, this type of behavior causes problems: if you make the directory writable, so that anyone can create a file in the directory, you also make it so that anyone can delete a file from the directory, *regardless* of who owns the file. Usually, what you want is for anyone (or anyone in a given group) to be able to be able to create file in the shared directory but only allow the *owner* of the file to delete (or modify) the file. The sticky bit makes this possible. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: No Debian updates?
Hi, I think the company/ group of people who are supposed to create this distribution are called the quality control/testing group. This is theoretically composed of people who are not necessarily maintainers, so they do not have to worry about new software. Maybe this should be taken up with the people in charge of the testing/ quality assurance groups? Are the groups still active? Am I mis remembering things? I think the job of maintaining and updating a separate parallel distribution (integrating stuff from unstable into stable and making approximately monthly releases) is a much bigger undertaking than what the debian-qa group (as it currently exists) can pull off. The debian-qa group currently seems to focus on fixing orphaned packages and doing installation tests of frozen for major releases. I think that is what it should be doing. I think that a separate distribution based on stable would be best handled as a separate project (perhaps a sub-project of Debian). This would be the sort of thing that could work very well if it was organized as a consortium of companies that wish to market an up-to-date version of Debian to compete with Red Hat. It would involve a lot of time consuming grunt work, which is best done by paid employees, so it would fit well with Bruce's concept of using Debian as a base for commercial distributions. As far as the current set of volunteer maintainers go -- I'll repeat, I don't think any of us have enough time to do a really, really good job of maintaining a separate set of stable releases. That's were commercial distributions such as Red Hat are going to kick our butt. We'll leap ahead every six months or so when we do a major release based on the stuff in unstable. But then our user base will be sort of left behind for 6 months until the next major release. It's no surprise many users will choose a distribution such as Red Hat which has enough (paid) resources to put together up-to-date releases and updates on a tighter schedule. Where we excel is in development - because we have so many maintainers. Doing development is inherently parallellizable. Unfortunately, final release testing and integration testing isn't -- that's best done by a small close-knit teams. We don't really have any small close-knit teams. That's a key reason we have so many debacles around the time we come out with a major release. It's only the flexibility of our packaging system that enables us to save our butts come release time. I think it's time to 'fess up to the fact that we aren't really all that good at building polished, refined, fully tested 'releases' that cut it as 'product'. (no flames please) But the raw output of what we do is awesome. If somebody wanted to invest in doing the final polishing, testing, bug fixing, and releasing -- they would be rewarded with a highly marketable product. Cheers, - Jim pgpsKhG5gd5Uj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mke2fs
On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, David Wright wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, David Stern wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, Philippe Troin wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:32:21 PDT David Stern wrote: I tried changing the beginning and ending cylinders, to no avail. Why does mke2fs think /dev/sda16 is the entire drive? Because /dev/sda16 has major 8, minor 16, which is the major/minor pair for /dev/sdb: look at 'ls -l /dev/sda16 /dev/sdb'. BTW, you have created sda16 yourself didn't you :-) I created it during the install procedure manually, yes. You created the device (with mknod), or created the partition? Do you have (as I do) /dev/sda16 = /dev/sdb [..] Oops. I thought Phil was asking me about creating the partition, but apparently he was asking me about creating the device. I have up to /dev/sd[a..h]16, yes. I also have up to /dev/hd[a..h]20. The only devices I created were ttyS[0..3] and cua[0..3]. Are you merely a stickler for detail, or does it concern you that devices exist which have little (if any) practical use and are potentially problematic? Now that you brought it to my attention, I'm a little curious. Not only why there are 16 scsi devices, but also why there are 20 ide devices, i.e.: the difference, in addition to the number being more than 15. A distantly related question (and equally important, hehe) is why those plus signs show up in fdisk -l if the partition ends on an even numbered cylinder. /dev/sdb11 151 151 218 546178+ 83 Linux native ^ right there! :-) David Stern -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Xntp and GMT
I'm looking for advice on how to set one of my Debian 1.3 servers to GMT time. We are a smaller ISP and recently we've had a problem with theft of service. The clock on our RADIUS accounting needs to be synced with our telco's clock in order to make tracking of this sort of thing easier. Currently our clock is 8 minutes faster than their clock, and this is a bad thing. If anyone can give advice on a relatively painless way to do this it would be much appreciated. I've downloaded, installed, and began reading the html-docs for xntp. I figured I'd try a cry for help to the list as well in case someone here has had to do the same thing. mike... Micro$oft, what do you want to spend today? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Loading multiple GNU/Linux machines
I am looking for methods to efficiently load many (up to 200) Debian GNU/Linux machines. The machines are to be configured identically. TCP/IP connectivity is available. Any help will be appreciated. Tnx, Nick Gilliam Lockheed Martin For the IP configuration BOOTP is very useful for this kind of thing. You have a server machine which knows which IP address to hand out to any particular ethernet address, and when your clients boot they pick up their IP address, and other IP related information, such as the nameservers to use etc. We use it to allow us to distribute a single, identical system to several machines. The distribution we use is not Debian based at present, but I looking at migrating to Debian. Looking through the packages I see one called nfsroot, which looks as if it may be ideal for what you want - I have not tried it yet, but I certainly will when I get the chance. John Lines p.s. Bootp is well integrated with the PCMCIA support for laptops with ethernet cards. I take my laptop from one site to another, or to my home ethernet, and just plug it in and boot, and it picks up the appropriate IP configuration whereever it happens to be. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
GCC setup problem
Hi, My GCC setup doesn't appear to be correct on my Debian 1.3.1 and 1.2 system. Initially after installing it, whenever I tried to run it, the message: GCC installation problem: cannot find cc1: no such file or directory cc1 (and cc1plus, and libgcc.a...) were in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/, so I created links in /usr/lib to them. I could compile things and stuff then (like you'd want to do with gcc...). Recently, however, i was using make-kpkg to recompile the kernel and it puked out the following error messages including: dpkg: unexpected output from `gcc --print-libgcc-file-name': `/usr/lib/libgcc.a' dpkg: compiler libgcc filename not understood: no gcc-lib component The same error message comes from trying: #dpkg --print-architecture and #gcc --print-libgcc-file-name produces: /usr/lib/libgcc.a I tried removing and purging gcc. However, gcc was still in /usr/bin(version 2.7.2). But trying to compile with that 'residual' gcc gave as above: GCC installation problem: cannot find cc1: no such file or directory yet gcc -v worked. find /usr -name gcc gave: /usr/bin Re-installing gcc corrected the above problem but I _still_ get errors from dpkg --print-architecture which means i can't recompile my kernel using make-kpkg. Assistance is needed to identify exactly what's going on and how I can correct it...purging (_) and re-installing (*) after re-booting doesn't work. Thanks, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: pascal
Isn't gpc in the optional development section gnu's pascal compiler? Martin Hi, Could someone tell me which debian package provides pascal support ? Thanks very much George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problems posting news
Tim Bell writes: When I post news from my machine, I get mail back with inews: No valid newsgroups in misc.test ... and I'm trying to send news to an nntp server. Are you trying to post directly to a remote nntp server, or are you trying to post to your local server and have it feed the articles to a remote server? Is the mail coming from your system, or from the remote one? Do I have to have an up-to-date /var/lib/news/active file? If you are posting to your local server, all the groups you post to must exist on your system (/usr/lib/news/ctl/newgroup to create them) and be in your active file. The active file need not contain any groups you don't use. I operate a cnews leafnode which feeds off my isp. Email me if you have more questions. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to multitask in X-windows?
Hi ImmortaL: I have your problem with Netscape. I hope we both get an answer. I hope this helps part of your other window problem: It sounds a little like you have a 'focus' problem. I can click the mouse and create X windows that work if I move the mouse pointer into the window to get focus in that window. Notice the color changes when the mouse pointer is in a window or out of it. That's called having focus - (strange parlance, but what do you expect from computer types :) I can run stuff in the background and change windows if I have focus in that window. (X can be setup so you have to click a window to change focus, as in M$ LOSE 3.1 95) With regard to switching from text consoles back to X you use Control-Alt F1-6 to move to a virtual text console, and from one of them back to X you use Control-F7 (at least I do). MY PROBLEM is somewhat like ImmortaL's: Will someone PLEASE explain why when I suspend Emacs in X with control z, and try to restart it with fg, emacs does not reappear. Key strokes are echoed but no keystrokes are accepted by emacs. I wind up killing emacs. And tell me how to suspend and restart a program under X. Am I supposed to open a window and start an application there, changing from window to window to do various things? David - LINUX: the FREE 32 bit OS for [345]86 PC's available NOW! David B Teague | User interface copyrights software patents make [EMAIL PROTECTED] | programing a dangerous business. Ask me or [EMAIL PROTECTED] spy counter-intelligence wild porno sex gold bullion Soviet Bosnia clipper National Security Council explosion Treasury terrorist Delta Force bomb Iran Mossad data encryption munitions Serbian hydrazine ammonium nitrate fuel oil On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, ImmortaL wrote: Actually your both right because my question can go both ways it doesnt matter they both are helpful BUT,i tried both ways and they dont work for example if i enter X and start netscape and then go back to Xterm i cant enter any commands its locked until i kill netscape,i tried it only with Xterm i opened two Xterms but the first one didnt work after i opened the second one.Then tried the Virtual way Ctrl-alt-Fx and when i did that and a new logon screen came on and then when i went back to X there was no X there was a shell screen and it showed all the usual commands when X starts and it was locked.and i cant do anything so i have to kill it.Do you have to be running XDM for it to work?Or do you have any idea why this wont work? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in article [ useful stuff omitted ...] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to multitask in X-windows?
If you're starting a new xterm from the shell, type xterm instead of just xterm. This will run the new xterm in the background, so you will be able to execute more commands in that same window later. Many window managers allow you to start a new xterm from their menus, too. At 10:06 AM 10/1/97 -0400, ImmortaL wrote: Actually your both right because my question can go both ways it doesnt matter they both are helpful BUT,i tried both ways and they dont work for example if i enter X and start netscape and then go back to Xterm i cant enter any commands its locked until i kill netscape,i tried it only with Xterm i opened two Xterms but the first one didnt work after i opened the second one.Then tried the Virtual way Ctrl-alt-Fx and when i did that and a new logon screen came on and then when i went back to X there was no X there was a shell screen and it showed all the usual commands when X starts and it was locked.and i cant do anything so i have to kill it.Do you have to be running XDM for it to work?Or do you have any idea why this wont work? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in article [EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Tue, Sep 30, 1997 at 10:57:00PM -0500, Dave Cinege wrote: : On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:04:53 -0400, Jason Costomiris wrote: : : On Tue, Sep 30, 1997 at 07:36:02PM -0400, ImmortaL wrote: : : I need to know if there a way in x-windows for example in the shell itself : : i would press the alt key and the F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 to open a new window is : : there a way to do this in X? : : Uh, open another xterm. : : Think you missed him. I dunno about that. He asked how to get another shell window under X. I told him how -- Jason Costomiris | VMS is about as secure as a poodle [EMAIL PROTECTED]| encased in a block of lucite http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom/ | about as useful, too. #include disclaimer.h | --some guy I read on Usenet -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: problem installing debian
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Hasibul Haque wrote: I have a quantum fireball ST6 IDE hardrive with Pentium II 233 cpu. I have 1 primary partion with win95 and 2 logical drives - one of them is empty for linux install the other one has windows nt. I am able to boot the rescue floppy but at the menu when I choose 'partition hard disk' I am getting a message thats saying hard drive could not be detected and to check cables or change driver settings at boot: prompt or load a driver. Thanks. Hmmm... I've never had a problem detecting an IDE drive, but I've never seen a Pentium II system up close. Dale, do you have any ideas? Could there be a driver incompatibility with the new Pentium II motherboards? I have not yet heard any examples of people running Linux on Pentium II systems. Hasib, I suggest that you search through the newsgroups comp.os.linux.hardware and/or comp.os.linux.setup, comp.os.linux.misc for references to Pentium II systems, and see if there is any useful info. Thanks. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to multitask in X-windows?
ImmortaL writes: Actually your both right because my question can go both ways it doesnt matter they both are helpful BUT,i tried both ways and they dont work for example if i enter X and start netscape and then go back to Xterm i cant enter any commands its locked until i kill netscape,i tried it only with Xterm i opened two Xterms but the first one didnt work after i opened the you need to put the application in the background by following the cammand with a . % netscape % xterm second one.Then tried the Virtual way Ctrl-alt-Fx and when i did that and a new logon screen came on and then when i went back to X there was no X there was a shell screen and it showed all the usual commands when X starts and it was locked.and i cant do anything so i have to kill it.Do you have to be running XDM for it to work?Or do you have any idea why this wont work? If you started X from VC 2 for example that is were all the X output messages will go but with the default setup the actual X display will be on VC-7. So do a Ctrl-alt-F7 to get back to X. Brian -- Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PVM packaging
On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: I'm interested in packaging PVM for Debian. First, let me say that snip * Directory structure This thing wants to be installed with a tree structure like this: $PVM_ROOT +- bin/LINUX +- console/LINUX +- include +- documentation and stuff like that (tests, examples) That breaks the FSSTND. I can try to convince it to forget about the LINUX part (it's required for NFS hosted installations on a mixed OS enviroment), i.e., that means reading and fixing the code with each release... not funny. I checked some packages that are problematic on this respect, like Acroread, I've found that they get installed in /usr/lib/program/whatever_the_program_wants. Is that OK with the FSSTND? I may be misinterpreting the document, but IMHO, I don't think it is. /usr/lib says libraries, not entire programs. The FSSTND does support the /opt directory layout. Wouldn't this work for you? -- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to multitask in X-windows?
[Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] Actually your both right because my question can go both ways it doesnt matter they both are helpful BUT,i tried both ways and they dont work for example if i enter X and start netscape and then go back to Xterm i cant enter any commands its locked until i kill netscape,i tried it only with Xterm i opened two Xterms but the first one didnt work after i opened the second one. Solution 1: Start the programmes in the background, with an extra netscape xterm Solution 2: If you already started a programme on the forground (i.e. without ), you can make it go to the background by typing ^Z (Control_Z), and then bg (ENTER). Sample session: rulcmc:~$ xterm Press ^Z here: [1]+ Stopped xterm type bg ENTER: rulcmc:~$ bg [1]+ xterm Solution 3: (possibly need to install menu for this) Choose xterm or netscape from the menu, (in fvwm2, and most other window managers, click with the left mouse button to get the window's). Solution 4: Well, I'm trying to thing of other insane ways to do this. You _can_ also use screen: In the xterm, type screen (if the package is installed), and then, when you cannot type any more, (after you typed xterm without ), you can hit ^A-c (control-A c), to get a new screen session. Solution 5: Well, I don't want to bore you with even more solutions. There must be loads more (running two paralell X servers, more programmes like screen (splitvt for example), logging in remotely, and many I didn't think of. Then tried the Virtual way Ctrl-alt-Fx and when i did that and a new logon screen came on and then when i went back to X there was no X there was a shell screen and it showed all the usual commands when X starts and it was locked.and i cant do anything so i have to kill it. Ah, that's part of my solution 5, the not adviced one. You can type startx -- :1, and you will start a second X server. You can then switch between the X servers with Contr_Alt_Fx. But generally, you don't want this option. -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/) #what's this? see http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Pascal question
Hi, I have installed the pascal package and downgraded my gcc to 2.7.2.1 for compatibility reasons. In the beginning I got some errors concerning files the package could find By linking then I got through that stage .Now I am getting the following errors garfield:/usr/home/guest$ gpc program~pdp~.txt ld:program~pdp~.txt: file format not recognized; treating as linker script ld:program~pdp~.txt:1: parse error I don't do pascal myself any more, but I assume gpc, like gcc looks at the file extention to choose what type of file it is. Obviously, it doens't recognice .txt as a pascal file (I wouldnt' do that myself eighter), and it chooses to assume it's a linker script. Rename your file to eighter .p, or .pas (I just don't know which, but one must be the right one), and it should go OK. -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777iX+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0j]dsj $/=unpack('H*',$_);$_=`echo 16dio\U$kSK$/SM$n\EsN0p[lN*1 lK[d2%Sa2/d0$^Ixp|dc`;s/\W//g;$_=pack('H*',/((..)*)$/) #what's this? see http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xdm problem
On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Christopher Judd wrote: I recently installed 1.3.1 from CDROM; this is my first linux installation. Most of it went pretty smoothly, but I still have a couple of problems. One of that I can't get xdm to work. (If I reconfigure to use startx everything works fine). Running xdm -debug 2 gives the following output and then stops: have your /etc/X11/config file the right lines for xdm: start-xdm xdm-start-server also, after change this lines, you need run xbase-configure. this utility will create the file /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers with a line indicating where xdm should start the xserver: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -bpp 16 ^ ^ i think this could be your problem. hope this help []s, Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
midi software
Hi, I'm in the middle of learning to play keyboard/piano. I'd like to know if there is any MIDI software on Linux that can help me. I've AWE32 soundblaster card. I'd like to know what driver do I need. Currently, my Debian/Linux box can not play any sound and I guessed that I do not have the driver for the soundcard. So, I would like to know how do I go about install the driver. Thanks! -- Timothy C. Phan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) NEC America, Inc. ASL 1525 Walnut Hill Ln. Irving, TX 75038 tel: (214)-518-3437 fax: (214)-518-3499 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Deity Access
Thanks to Jason building a libc5 verison of the new CVS (with read-only patches), I've now made the Deity source archive available to everyone. To get it, go to the directory you want to place the source and do the following: cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs login (password: anonymous) cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvs co deity From then on, you can just go into the deity directory and do cvs update to get the latest version of the source. The deity mailing list is also available publicly in digest format. You can subscribe, I assume, by sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to multitask in X-windows?
( Re: Message from ImmortaL ) Actually your both right because my question can go both ways it doesnt matter they both are helpful BUT,i tried both ways and they dont work for example if i enter X and start netscape and then go back to Xterm i cant enter any commands its locked until i kill netscape,i tried it only with Xterm i opened two Xterms but the first one didnt work after i opened the second one.Then tried the Virtual way Ctrl-alt-Fx and when i did that and a new logon screen came on and then when i went back to X there was no X there was a shell screen and it showed all the usual commands when X starts and it was locked.and i cant do anything so i have to kill it.Do you have to be running XDM for it to work?Or do you have any idea why this wont work? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] One possibility which doesn't seem to have been mentioned, which would explain everything except your last item, is that your X windows are configured so that you have to left-button-click onto a window in order to change focus to it. There are several options for focus, the one I prefer being focus follows mouse plus autoraise, but it's also perfectly possible to have it set so that if the focus (i.e. the capability to receive input) is in one window then it stays there until you move the mouse over another window AND click on that window. Depending on the window-manager setup, it may be enough to click anywhere on the new window, or you may have to click on the top bar. Since, when you create a new xterm, the focus will automatically go to the new window, if that's how you're configured that's where will stay. However, your last point is more puzzling. From your description, the most likely thing is that when you first did Ctrl-Alt-F[x] out of X you ended up in a different terminal screen from the one you started X from (depending on the value of [x]); and then when you did Alt-F[y] to get back to X you chose the wrong value of [y] and ended up in the terminal screen you started X from, and not in the terminal on which X is running. If that's the case, since (usually) X is running in VT7 then Alt-F7 should get you back to X and all is well. You may start X from VT1, but X will run in VT7 (or whatever). If Alt-F7 doesn't work then try every possible Alt-F[y] and make a note of which one is the X terminal. (It won't be F7 if, in your /etc/inittab, you have it set to run gettys on /dev/tty[n] for [n] going up above 7 -- X runs in the first free VT, i.e. one with no getty on it). If it still doesn't work, then you might begin to think that your X installation is screwed. Hope this helps, Ted.([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
fw:[oclug] moving an open file
I'm forwarding this question from a local linux user group list. I thought someone could help. -- Todd Harper4 out of 5 dentists agree that 1 out of 5 dentists [EMAIL PROTECTED]is an idiot. ---forwarded-message In Slackware, I could be downloading a file in minicom then go to another VC and move the file to another directory without interrupting the file's growth. In debian, I can't do that anymore. Is there a way to switch this back on again? Why would they interfere with this capability? ORIGINAL.HEADER Description: Binary data
Re: Menu errors [fixed]
On Sep 29, Will Lowe wrote On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, Joey Hess wrote: You seem to have a number of executable menu files. Look in /usr/lib/menu and /etc/menu - remove the executable permissions of any files there that are executable (and file bugs on the packages that placed them there.) Ah, yes. It was /var/lib/menu/fvwm95 ... a simple sudo chmod -x fvwm95 seems to have been the fix, and I've filed a bug against fvwm95. Why does this cause a problem - surely update-menus only needs read permission on the files - any other permissions are just extra. I aggree the permissions shouldn't be there, and that a bug report should be filed against fvwm95, but I've been bitten by the same feature :-( NB: This feature was still present in menu 1.5-2. Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Artificial intelligence - the http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett | art of making computers act PGP key available on public key servers | like those in the movies -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Menu errors [fixed]
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, Adrian Bridgett wrote: On Sep 29, Will Lowe wrote On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, Joey Hess wrote: You seem to have a number of executable menu files. Look in /usr/lib/menu and /etc/menu - remove the executable permissions of any files there that are executable (and file bugs on the packages that placed them there.) Ah, yes. It was /var/lib/menu/fvwm95 ... a simple sudo chmod -x fvwm95 seems to have been the fix, and I've filed a bug against fvwm95. Why does this cause a problem - surely update-menus only needs read permission on the files - any other permissions are just extra. I aggree the permissions shouldn't be there, and that a bug report should be filed against fvwm95, but I've been bitten by the same feature :-( NB: This feature was still present in menu 1.5-2. The feature is that if the execute permissions are there, it will attempt to execute the file and use the output as the menu entry. It is basically trying to execute an non-executable file from fvwm95, and so it is a bug in fvwm95's menu. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian 1.3 problems
I installed Debian 1.3. Now, I am having problems logging in as a normal user. When logging in root, I got a message about delay bypassed, root allowed to log in. Also, when I shutdown, I got a prompt about logging in for maintenance mode, or control-d to shutdown. Pressing control-d does not do anything. Appreciate any comments/suggestions. Bao -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Is there a tool to mirror web sites?
I have some users that heavily use a couple of web sites that contain documentation and manuals. The standard mirror package is only for FTP from what I see. Is there a tool to mirror web sites too? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to multitask in X-windows?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually your both right because my question can go both ways it doesnt matter they both are helpful BUT,i tried both ways and they dont work for example if i enter X and start netscape and then go back to Xterm i cant enter any commands its locked until i kill netscape,i tried it only with Xterm i opened two Xterms but the first one didnt work after i opened the second one.Then tried the Virtual way Ctrl-alt-Fx and when i did that and a new logon screen came on and then when i went back to X there was no X there was a shell screen and it showed all the usual commands when X starts and it was locked.and i cant do anything so i have to kill it.Do you have to be running XDM for it to work?Or do you have any idea why this wont work? Thanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] From your original xterm, add an to the end of your commands to put the new job in the background and still be able to use the original xterm. Example: kayak- xterm kayak- netscape kayak- The first command will open a new xterm and and return the prompt in the original xterm. The second command will start netscape and return the prompt. The prompt in this case is kayak- . I assume xdm is being started on virtual console 1. The X screen is on the screen one number above your highest virtual console. For example, on my system ctrl-alt-F1 thru F6 will switch to virtual consoles. ctrl-alt-f7 (or just alt-f7) will switch back to my X screen. You might want to get a beginner's book on unix/x. I think the Linux documentation project has a beginner's guide which covers issues like this. O'Reilly generally publishes good unix books as well. Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Multiple PPP Configurations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Is there a way to have more than one pppd configuration? Getting another modem is not an option. What I would like is something along these lines: pon work poff pon internet where work has the ppp options/chatscript for dialing up the office, and internet has the ppp options/chatscript for going online. I have poured over the PPP Howto, and could not find anything. Also, as a side note, mgetty can do autoPPP. mgetty also has a callback utility. I have not tried this, but would it be possible for me to call work, and have work call me back, bringing up a ppp connection? Which is more preferable, PAP or CHAP? Does PAP/CHAP eliminate the need for callback(for security reasons)? Thanks, - -- Walter L. Preuninger IIwaldo @ irc.wasteland.org:#unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rapidramp.com/~walterp L I N U X Where You Really Should Be! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNDKxBSJO3DbZX8gpAQHcmwf9E7ATaD7KwtcZc1zdi9hQSgHM3bHqjt2O y+pRJUBABweyzIXVRXcmyrvcAJPXrIaaffX0SOZ0/YajOELBvMiOCD/TdJXS60a+ is4c59SH/x8h/VWXtUr/bDQC4CNdEIJMLnyu4xAw9NCJd1IMo65OV/LVU0nzFL5H I5WNbWevbp86QYrgnYLgTt7iaAYYsKwPg6I2KJE+FchwtOG39PhtytpN/nfjqJba gdyoLQXjkiiMONXzlDLs4005QOAwpqWeprONc88QJQkPyth9JGKaZh8cCHDyF2e1 fbfFi2IMHjdF3xUjYa1XO3CpeuocKuWnMugd0/jmx4spwoZZJekSiQ== =wov5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there a tool to mirror web sites?
R Chris Ross wrote: I have some users that heavily use a couple of web sites that contain documentation and manuals. The standard mirror package is only for FTP from what I see. Is there a tool to mirror web sites too? yup. try wget_1.4.4-6.deb ! m* -- The Shining One -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Iomega Ditto Tape drive on parallel port?
I want to by an external tape drive and am considering an Iomega Ditto that connects to the parallel port. However, the Howto's say that such drives (that use the parallel port) are unsupported. Is that also the situation with the 2.0.30-kernel? I do not have space in my computer box for another drive so I cannot consider an internal tape drive. I would appreciate some advice. Thank you. Johann. Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windsorlaan 19 Pietermaritzburg 3201 Suid Afrika (South Africa) Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: fw:[oclug] moving an open file
why you need this capability??? Todd Harper wrote: I'm forwarding this question from a local linux user group list. I thought someone could help. -- Todd Harper4 out of 5 dentists agree that 1 out of 5 dentists [EMAIL PROTECTED]is an idiot. ---forwarded-message In Slackware, I could be downloading a file in minicom then go to another VC and move the file to another directory without interrupting the file's growth. In debian, I can't do that anymore. Is there a way to switch this back on again? Why would they interfere with this capability? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there a tool to mirror web sites?
yup...install the mirror package. R Chris Ross wrote: I have some users that heavily use a couple of web sites that contain documentation and manuals. The standard mirror package is only for FTP from what I see. Is there a tool to mirror web sites too? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Is there a tool to mirror web sites?
Oops...please ignore my previous post:) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yup...install the mirror package. R Chris Ross wrote: I have some users that heavily use a couple of web sites that contain documentation and manuals. The standard mirror package is only for FTP from what I see. Is there a tool to mirror web sites too? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
man pages...
Greetings all, two quick questionsi installed debian on my box and when i'm running a shell trying to look up stuff on man pages, i can not. Did i miss something in the installation process How can i remedy this And how can i get a standard ppp-connectioni've downloaded all the ppp/slip packages and was wondering how to config them and use my modem Thank you in advanced.. jd? ---that newbie guy againbut hopefully not for logn!!! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: midi software
On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Timothy Phan wrote: Hi, I'm in the middle of learning to play keyboard/piano. I'd like to know if there is any MIDI software on Linux that can help me. I've AWE32 soundblaster card. I'd like to know what driver do I need. Currently, my Debian/Linux box can not play any sound and I guessed that I do not have the driver for the soundcard. So, I would like to know how do I go about install the driver. Thanks! First you need to get sound working, then you can see about midi progs. To get sound working,.. If you have the non-Plug-n-Play, you should be able to just compile sound into your kernel. (might need the awedrv kernel patch, below) If you have the Plug n Play version of the awe32, you can either.. get the commercial OSS Commercial driver for $20 (a five day free trial) at some web address I forget, something like www.4front-tech.com, (and then you're all done, no patches) or.. configure your Plug n Play devices by either.. switching to loadlin bootloader (if your bios does Plun n Play initialization), or.. get a plug n play initializer like isapnptools (should be in dselect), configure it (time-consuming), then.. recompile your kernel after adding the awedrv patch (also in dselect, you need to run an install script in /usr/src/awedrv to apply the patch). I don't have a keyboard recently, so I haven't got any tips on programs that would interest you. Try a search for 'rose' and 'octave' in dselect, though. David Stern -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .