Problem compiling Gzilla

1998-02-24 Thread James Dietrich

Has anyone successfully compiled Gzilla recently?  I just downloaded version
0.1.5 from http://www.levien.com/gzilla/ and tried to compile it following the
directions in the INSTALL file.  However, the compilation failed with:

gcc -DPACKAGE=\gzilla\ -DVERSION=\0.1.5\ -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_LIBM=1 
-DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_FCNTL_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_SOCKET=1  -I. -I.  
-I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include  -g -O2 -Wall -c gtkgzwscroller.c
gtkgzwscroller.c: In function `gtk_gzw_scroller_get_type':
gtkgzwscroller.c:72: `GtkArgFunc' undeclared (first use this function)
gtkgzwscroller.c:72: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
gtkgzwscroller.c:72: for each function it appears in.)
make: *** [gtkgzwscroller.o] Error 1

I am running the latest from hamm, and I have both libgtk-dev 0.99.3-1 and
libgtk1 0.99.3-1 installed.  In any case, I'm quite sure that it found my
gtk stuff because it compiled the file before this one (commands.c) with only
a few warnings about unused variables.

Interestingly, the command
 find /usr/include/gtk -name '*.*' -print | xargs grep GtkArgFunc
reports no matches.

Thanks for any and all help!

James


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Re: Strangeness at boot

1998-02-24 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Dominic Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Recently, I have started getting messages like this at boot and
shutdown:

trap: illegal number SIGHUP
trap: illegal number SIGINT

Aha, your /bin/sh is probably not bash, but ash. Older versions of ash
do not reckognize the (posix) signal names (as opposed to numbers). This
should have been fixed AFAIK. Try to update whatever your /bin/sh is
to the latest version ..

Mike.
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Re: BGP

1998-02-24 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Joel Klecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 20:23 +0100 1998-02-23, Peter Paluch wrote:
I would like to ask - is there any package which enables routing using
BGP (Border Gateway Protocol) ? I know that there is routed, but it
doesn't seem to be able to use BGP.

gated, but there is no Debian package for it due to licensing[1] (there was
talk of doing an installer package, but nothing ever came of it). gated is
available at http://www.gated.org/.

There are 2 more packages under development that speak bgp:

1. MRT, see http://www.merit.edu/net-research/
2. Zebra, see http://www.zebra.org/

Both are not as mature as gated but look promising.

I am still waiting for both of them to get OSPF support, but that will
probably take a lot longer ..

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mgetty voice/fax/data

1998-02-24 Thread Paul Miller

I have a SupraFAXModem 288i v.34 (33.6kbs) and I'm wondering how to
configure mgetty to distinguish voice/fax/date calls and use caller id. 

From looking at the mgetty logs, mgetty sends AT+FAA=1 to my modem after
the init_chat initialization strings.. +FAA=1 is 'Adaptive Answering' for
class 2 fax modems, which distinguishes between fax and data.  There is
another type of answering called 'Silent Answer Plus' (AT+FAA=4 for class 
2) that also determines voice.  What is the deference between silent
answer and adaptive?  Does mgetty support silent answer?  And how can I
send the +FAA=4 command to my modem instead of +FAA=1?

For caller id, what format does mgetty expect it to be in?  My modem
supports 'readable format' (#CID=1) and 'ascii printable characters in
hex' (#CID=2).  Also, how do I tell mgetty that I'm using caller id  to
check the dialin.config file?

For voice calls, I'd like to send a message (smbclient) to another
computer.  How can I monitor the caller id strings and if mgetty
determines that it is voice?

Anyone had any experiance with this setup?  I'd like to hear how well it
works (please also include your modem type).

Thanks
-Paul


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mgetty voice/fax/data

1998-02-24 Thread Paul Miller
I have a SupraFAXModem 288i v.34 (33.6kbs) and I'm wondering how to   
configure mgetty to distinguish voice/fax/date calls and use caller id. 

From looking at the mgetty logs, mgetty sends AT+FAA=1 to my modem after
the init_chat initialization strings.. +FAA=1 is 'Adaptive Answering' for
class 2 fax modems, which distinguishes between fax and data.  There is
another type of answering called 'Silent Answer Plus' (AT+FAA=4 for class
2) that also determines voice.  What is the deference between silent
answer and adaptive?  Does mgetty support silent answer?  And how can I   
send the +FAA=4 command to my modem instead of +FAA=1?
   
For caller id, what format does mgetty expect it to be in?  My modem
supports 'readable format' (#CID=1) and 'ascii printable characters in
hex' (#CID=2).  Also, how do I tell mgetty to use caller id and look at
the dialin.config file?

Finally, how can I monitor what mgetty is doing?  I want smbclient to send
a message with the caller id strings to another machine when a voice call
is detected. 

Anyone have experiance with this type of setup?  If so, I'd like to hear
from you (please also include your modem type).

Thanks
-Paul


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Re: BGP

1998-02-24 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 02:36:16PM -0800, Joel Klecker wrote:
 At 20:23 +0100 1998-02-23, Peter Paluch wrote:
 I would like to ask - is there any package which enables routing using
 BGP (Border Gateway Protocol) ? I know that there is routed, but it
 doesn't seem to be able to use BGP.
 
 gated, but there is no Debian package for it due to licensing[1] (there was
 talk of doing an installer package, but nothing ever came of it). gated is
 available at http://www.gated.org/.
 
 [1] The gated consortium requires that groups who wish to distribute gated
 apply for a distribution license, such a license is free, but the DFSG
 requires that a license not be specifically for Debian.

Could we then apply for a license and put it in non-free?  It makes sense
to me...  People keep asking for gated.  I'd like to play with it myself.

Otherwise, perhaps some individual could apply for a license and then
redistribute a .deb via FTP or HTTP.

Jeff


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How to run multiple X display servers?

1998-02-24 Thread Richardson,Anthony

I'm working thru some of the exercises in the book A Practical Guide to   
Linux.
In the GUI chapter the author mentions that you can start multiple X   
servers in
different blank virtual consoles.  I thought this would be neat and   
thought I'd try it.
When I do startx -- :1.0  the server starts, but the clients complain   
about
not having authorization to connect to the server.

I played around with xauth to add an entry to the .Xauthority file and   
got
everything to work.  The xauth man page mentions that entries in the
.Xauthority file are normally created by xdm, so I don't believe the way   
I got
things to work is proper.  (Something seemed strange about the way I just
typed in a long, random, hex number.)  Would someone please provide   
provide
enlightenment as to the correct procedure or point me to appropriate
documentation?

Thanks,
Tony Richardson
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Debian Installation

1998-02-24 Thread Your Name
I have the debian 1.3.1 cd and am trying to make a boot(Rescue)disk of
the file resc1440.bin with no avail. I keep getting a message stating
that the file is too large for a 1.44 floppy. I've tried new disks,
reformatted disks, different computers, and even tried downloading the
file from the debian site. Please advise if I'm doing something wrong.

Thanks,
Tom Zelazny


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compiling and installing non deb stuff

1998-02-24 Thread tmalloy
1. Is is normally best to try something out in my home directory  before 
installing it as root?  Will this always be possible?

2.  Should source file normally be (tar -zxvf *.tar.gz) in /, or /usr, or
/usr/local, or somewhere else?  Do most programmers expect that you are
installing from a particular directory?

3.  What fundamental differences are there in the file system structure of
debian as compared to say other Linux distributions, or other Unix's  
(sun-OS, hpux, aix), that are relevant to compilation and installation
issues.   That is what kinds of changes commonly need to be
made to make files and install scripts.

4.  Are there established procedures and practices that professional
system administrators follow when compiling and installing software that
could be recommended as good guidelines for me or any other less
experienced person to follow.

Thank you for any help.  




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Re: Debian Installation

1998-02-24 Thread aqy6633
 I have the debian 1.3.1 cd and am trying to make a boot(Rescue)disk of
 the file resc1440.bin with no avail. I keep getting a message stating
 that the file is too large for a 1.44 floppy. I've tried new disks,
 reformatted disks, different computers, and even tried downloading the
 file from the debian site. Please advise if I'm doing something wrong.

Tom,

are using 'rawrite' to create the floppies? You CAN'T just copy
resc1440.bin over to the formatted floppy.

Alex Y.
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Re: How to run multiple X display servers?

1998-02-24 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Richardson,Anthony wrote:

 
 I'm working thru some of the exercises in the book A Practical Guide to   
 Linux.
 In the GUI chapter the author mentions that you can start multiple X   
 servers in
 different blank virtual consoles.  I thought this would be neat and   
 thought I'd try it.
 When I do startx -- :1.0  the server starts, but the clients complain   
 about
 not having authorization to connect to the server.
 
 I played around with xauth to add an entry to the .Xauthority file and   
 got
 everything to work.  The xauth man page mentions that entries in the
 .Xauthority file are normally created by xdm, so I don't believe the way   
 I got
 things to work is proper.  (Something seemed strange about the way I just
 typed in a long, random, hex number.)  Would someone please provide   
 provide
 enlightenment as to the correct procedure or point me to appropriate
 documentation?

Looking at the startx script, I'd say you should use :1 (without quotes)
instead of :1.0. They both mean the same to the X server but the former
isn't recognised as a local display by the startx script.

If it doesn't work, your startx script is probably one of those that don't
really support multiple local X servers. I'd be happy to send you mine.
It's not that big.

Remco


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Re: two keyboards, two monitors, two users, one processor?

1998-02-24 Thread Britton

This question or ones very like it seem to come up fairly often.  Of
cource the critical (and hard) part is driving two video cards.  It is
possible.  There was an article in LJ a bit ago describing the Metro-X
X server, which can control multiple video cards (though they may have to
be a particular type and/or brand.  I don't know how interrupts and the
like fit in the picture (your average video card uses two of them if I
understand correctly).  I don't know if XFree has any support for this
sort of thing, or exactly how the kernel would be involved (seems it would
have to be some way...).  If anyone finds anything out, please post it to
this list, I am curious also :)

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Jameson Burt wrote:

 I seek to use one computer with two full X-windows users.
 This would be a cheap in time/money approach for my wife and I simultaneously 
 using Linux.
 I believe I could get a dummy terminal working through the serial port,
 then display on a second monitor (though I don't know any approach for a 
 second mouse).
 Is this reasonable, or is there another approach?
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Re: two keyboards, two monitors, two users, one processor?

1998-02-24 Thread Britton

On 23 Feb 1998, Carey Evans wrote:

 Jameson Burt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I seek to use one computer with two full X-windows users.
  This would be a cheap in time/money approach for my wife and I 
  simultaneously 
  using Linux.
 
 It might be worthwhile finding a cheap 386 or 486 with a good graphics
 card.  Install a minimum of programs on it, just the X server.  If you
 run xfs on your main computer, you won't even need the fonts.  You
 could do this with even a 200 MB hard disk, I think.
 
 You *will* need 2 network cards for this, but setting up two computers 
 on a network under Linux is easier than some single-computer stuff.  X 
 is probably too slow over serial.

I think most X apps would run tolerably over a null modem cable.  If I
understand these gadgets right, the can operate at the speed of the serial
port, which is about 120 kbps, I think.  Even over ppp (33k modem) many
apps function reasonably well.

 (Just another option.)
 
 It is easy to plug in two mice, dodgy to plug in two monitors, but
 pretty much impossible to plug in two keyboards at the moment, IMO.

Good point, I hadn't even thought about it.  How sad that the part with
bandwidth 1/100Mth video is what you can't do. 

 
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Re: compiling and installing non deb stuff

1998-02-24 Thread Shaleh
It is recommended that any local software -- not a debian package -- be
installed in /usr/local.  dpkg/dselect ignores this directory(for the
most part).  There is a file system standard the all linux dists are
supposed to follow.  It is currently called the FSSTND, soon to be the
FHS.  It should be in /usr/doc/debian I think.  Not 100% sure.


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Re: Debian Linux and Non-Free Packages.

1998-02-24 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Alex Yukhimets wrote:

   Also on another note, does anyone knoe if there is a graphical front end 
   to the
   ipfwadm (Firewall) program?  If not then I am currently considering 
   writing
   one.  The current plan is to produce both a  ncurses version, and a HTML
   version.  But why reinvent the wheel if there is already one.
  
  I hope you'll put it under the GPL.
 
 Hope you wouldn't :) 
 
 Since I wouldn't be able to create a Motif interface in case you put
 it under GPL. I am having a big problems with GPL'd software now:
 I am writing a Motif clone of WS_FTP and while the front-end is almost
 ready, I am forced to write my own back-end because the usable ftp
 software is GPL'd! I feel more then frustrated about it now. 

You must also realise that some people don't have motif, so that this
doesn't affect them. There is also the static motif option (i'm guessing
here...), like the gimp-smotif package, is there not?

I would like a front end to ipfwadm, as I have no idea how to use it... I
haven't spent my customary hour reading docs on it yet... 
Here's another question, is there a usermod frontend? For example, setting
groups and things?

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Binary Directorys

1998-02-24 Thread Michael Beattie

Is there any significant difference between /bin|/sbin and
/usr/bin|/usr/sbin ??? I am just interested as to why there are two bin
and sbin directorys.


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problems while updating packages with dpkg

1998-02-24 Thread José
Hello,
Sometime ago I got the Debian GNU/Linux 1.1.4.Sept96 release. Working
with it, I managed to set up my little system at home.(I was very proud
of myself ;-)).
Two months ago, I borrowed from some friends the Debian 1.3.1. release.
Eagerly :-) I began updating packages, installing this, purging that,...

In the middle of the fun, it ocurred to me that it could be interesting
to have the new dpkg package(s) on my system. So I installed
dpkg1.4.0.8.deb, dpkg_cross_0.1.deb, dpkg -dev_1.4 and dpkg_ftp_1.9.8,
well the dpkg-related packages appearing in my new distribution.
 
A few days ago, I ran 'dpkg -l' and I got a message reading something
like 'problems while parsing /var/lib/dpkg/available'. I realized that
this database was corrupted!. Lots of package info lines were repeated
even twice or more times. I tried to restore it (by hand) and finally I
achieved to leave it operative (that means I can do dpkg -l, -s,
-iGOEB, --purge,... ) but there are still repeated lines (that someday I
will have to delete). 
The question is : is there somebody out there with an idea of what
happened in my sistem?. Could it happen again and under what
circunstances?.

Thanks for your time. bye!
jl.


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Re: How to run multiple X display servers?

1998-02-24 Thread Michael Beattie
 Looking at the startx script, I'd say you should use :1 (without quotes)
 instead of :1.0. They both mean the same to the X server but the former
 isn't recognised as a local display by the startx script.

 If it doesn't work, your startx script is probably one of those that don't
 really support multiple local X servers. I'd be happy to send you mine.
 It's not that big.

Yes please :)

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Re: smail problems with smarthost

1998-02-24 Thread john
Bill Leach writes:
 I think that you still have a problem in that your Return-Path:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] will route (at least some) replies and bounced
 mail messages to someone else.

I have 'visible_name=win.bright.net', which gets my mail past brightnet's
ever vigilant anti-relay software.  Many of my bounces probably go to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], who probably does not exist.  How is that worse than
having them go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Next time I dial in I will
be elk12-cs or some such.
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Re: BGP

1998-02-24 Thread Joel Klecker
At 19:22 -0600 1998-02-23, Jeff Noxon wrote:
>On Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 02:36:16PM -0800, Joel Klecker wrote:
>> At 20:23 +0100 1998-02-23, Peter Paluch wrote:
>> >I would like to ask - is there any package which enables routing using
>> >BGP (Border Gateway Protocol) ? I know that there is routed, but it
>> >doesn't seem to be able to use BGP.
>> 
>> gated, but there is no Debian package for it due to licensing[1] (there was
>> talk of doing an installer package, but nothing ever came of it). gated is
>> available at http://www.gated.org/>.
>> 
>> [1] The gated consortium requires that groups who wish to distribute gated
>> apply for a distribution license, such a license is free, but the DFSG
>> requires that a license not be specifically for Debian.
>
>Could we then apply for a license and put it in non-free?  It makes sense
>to me...  People keep asking for gated.  I'd like to play with it myself.

I mentioned this on IRC (irc.debian.org; #debian) and here's the response:
17:44:58:  * Espy notes that someone on -user asked about something capable of BGP, I mentioned gated(along with the distribution license stuff), someone else mailed me wondering why someone doesn't get a license and put a gated package in non-free. Should I bring this up in -devel again?
17:45:55: netgod> Espy:  because a key part of gated has a license that you have to sign, to distribute it
17:46:17: netgod> Espy:  this is what prompted debian to form a formal board of directors, who then decided debian wasnt going to sign any such document -- 
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Re: Beeping the Speaker

1998-02-24 Thread Norbert Veber
On Sun, Feb 22, 1998 at 02:15:46AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In bash or sh or ksh -
 
  echo ^g^g
 
 Doesn't work for me.

come on, its not rocket science, echo -e \a will do the trick.


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Re: Debian Linux and Non-Free Packages.

1998-02-24 Thread Norbert Veber
 Also on another note, does anyone knoe if there is a graphical front end to 
 the
 ipfwadm (Firewall) program?  If not then I am currently considering writing
 one.  The current plan is to produce both a  ncurses version, and a HTML
 version.  But why reinvent the wheel if there is already one.

yes, if you are in hamm, install the dotfile generator, if not, then
http://www.imada.ou.dk/~blackie/dotfile/  It supports emacs, bash, ipfwadm,
procmail, and a few others, more to come..


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Re: Executing a process on another virtual terminal

1998-02-24 Thread Norbert Veber
On Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 12:19:26PM -0700, Fulgham, Brent/SCO wrote:
 Is there an easy way to start a process on another virtual terminal?
 For example, I would like to run the RC5DES client from Distributed.net
 on a virtual terminal, so I can alt-f7 over to it and see how it is
 doing from time to time.  I tried cat rc5des  /dev/tty7, which doesn't
 work...

the command is called open, and its in the package called.. umm open.. :)


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Re: Upgrading to hamm

1998-02-24 Thread Daniel Martin at cush
Bill Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Also, if you installed the specially compiled for bo bash 2.01 package
 be CERTAIN that you look back through the recent archives (this month)
 for note about the upgrade process -- the upgrade WILL fail.

Specifically, check
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9802/msg01524.html
for my description of what goes wrong (and a way around it),
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9802/msg01605.html
for someone's independent confirmation of the problem, and
http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-9802/msg01767.html
for a version of bash 2.01 for bo that won't break the upgrade
process.


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Re: So what is ksmbfs pkg for?

1998-02-24 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:So what is the ksmbfs pkg for anyway? 
:
: I think that the ksmbfs stuff got merged in samba a few versions
: back.  Perhaps the ksmbfs package will disappear eventually.

To summarize:

Package samba: it allows to convert your Linux box in a SMB server,
just like Windows 95 and NT computers (NT Domain support is not there
yet although the Samba team are working on ti - this will allow you to
get rid of Windows NT boxes that are PDC and BDC for domains). The
smbclient program is part of the Samba package. Status: current and
maintained.

Package smbfs: smbmount and smbumount userland utilities that allow you
to mount a smbfs file system. This package is for kernels  2.1.70.
This package _replaces_ package ksmbfs which should be removed from
Hamm (I already filed a bug against ftp.debian.org about this).
Status: current and maintained.

Package smbfsx: smbmount and smbumount userland utilities that allow you
to mount a smbfs file system. This package is for kernels  2.1.70.
The sources for this package are the same as for the Samba package
(smbfs utilities were merged with Samba 1.9.18). Status: current and
maintained.

Package ksmbfs: is obsolete, is obsolete and must be removed from
Debian 2.0 and above. It is not even libc6 compliant. Don't use it,
use package smbfs instead. Status: obsolete.

Please note that I have been asked to merge packages smbfs and smbfsx
in just one package and provide stub scripts to call the right binary
depending on the kernel version. I don't like this idea and I don't
think I'll have the time to think about it before Debian 2.0.

Regards,

E.-
(maintainer of smbfs, smbfsx and samba)

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Re: How to track hard drive seeks?(more info/questions)

1998-02-24 Thread Brian White
 I attached strace to the update process and it is doing as it says,
 sleeps for 5 seconds and then calls bdflush(). I can't watch bdflush
 because it is a new process everytime.

Have you tried strace with the -f option and friends (-o, -ff)?

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Getting Started

1998-02-24 Thread Robert Smith
Unfortunatly I can't install Linux on any of my
machines, but I can  use the ASH Shell from the
rescue disk, as I am a complete novice to Linux, I
was wondering what to do next, where can I find some
*simple*, and small programs on the net, how to unzip
them, and if I need to format a drive for linux, if
so how do I format a floppy, or my syquest backup
drive. The reason I can't install is because I can't
put anything decent on my work computer, HR thinks
that would make me less productive, and  my home
computer has some propriety hardware. Also I can't cd
to some Rescue files, particulary proc/net/tcp, and a
few others.



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Re: Beeping the Speaker

1998-02-24 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Norbert Veber wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 22, 1998 at 02:15:46AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   In bash or sh or ksh -
  
   echo ^g^g
  
  Doesn't work for me.
 
 come on, its not rocket science, echo -e \a will do the trick.

Sure, that does the same as `echo ^g`. The question was how to make two
beeps. Both `echo ^g^g` and `echo -e \a\a` give you one beep.

Remco


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Re: compiling and installing non deb stuff

1998-02-24 Thread David Z. Maze

tmalloy  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
t 1. Is is normally best to try something out in my home directory  before 
t installing it as root?  Will this always be possible?

It's often a good idea, though in the past I haven't necessarily.  :-) 
If you install things in /usr/local so that they don't overwrite
Debian's files, you'll probably be able to avoid problems.

t 2.  Should source file normally be (tar -zxvf *.tar.gz) in /, or /usr, or
t /usr/local, or somewhere else?

Probably not, possibly, likely, and likely.  :-)  I usually unpack
sources in /usr/local/src or under my home directory.  I'd recommend
avoiding unpacking sources in /usr/src since that is technically
Debian's space and not the local administrator's.

t Do most programmers expect that you are installing from a
t particular directory?

No.  Well-written programs should make no assumptions about the
directory you are installing _to_, either.

t 3.  What fundamental differences are there in the file system structure of
t debian as compared to say other Linux distributions, or other Unix's  
t (sun-OS, hpux, aix), that are relevant to compilation and installation
t issues.   That is what kinds of changes commonly need to be
t made to make files and install scripts.

Usually, very few.  Most modern Un*ces have a /var filesystem, and I
believe the majority of source packages out there use it properly.
Similarly, I believe the majority of systems have /sbin and /usr/sbin
directories; system executables (i.e. init) no longer go in /etc.

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Re: Getting Started

1998-02-24 Thread aqy6633
 Unfortunatly I can't install Linux on any of my
 machines, but I can  use the ASH Shell from the
 rescue disk, as I am a complete novice to Linux, I
 was wondering what to do next, where can I find some
 *simple*, and small programs on the net, how to unzip
 them, and if I need to format a drive for linux, if
 so how do I format a floppy, or my syquest backup
 drive. The reason I can't install is because I can't
 put anything decent on my work computer, HR thinks
 that would make me less productive, and  my home
 computer has some propriety hardware. Also I can't cd
 to some Rescue files, particulary proc/net/tcp, and a
 few others.

Well, playing with Linux from the rescue disk is no fun at all :(

I would suggest you installing Linux on your syquest (syjet?) drive.

Alex Y.


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Re: X Windows 16-bit

1998-02-24 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Peter Paluch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 But I have another question: in bo, I was able to move windows between
 screen by simple dragging them. However, in hamm this is not possible. I
 don't want to have EdgeScroll disabled (in bo this wasn't needed). Why
 is this, and how to solve it?

The behaviour has changed upstream. The only way to reenable this is to
change this is the code and recompile. I also wanted to do this, but never
got enough time for this. I had the patch somewhere, but can't find it at
the moment.

Maybe you could check the fvwm2 mailinglist archive, as it was posted
there. 

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: Debian Linux and Non-Free Packages.

1998-02-24 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Alex Yukhimets wrote:

   Also on another note, does anyone knoe if there is a graphical
   front end to the ipfwadm (Firewall) program?  If not then I am
   currently considering writing one.  The current plan is to produce
   both a ncurses version, and a HTML version.  But why reinvent the
   wheel if there is already one.
 
  I hope you'll put it under the GPL.

 Hope you wouldn't :)

 Since I wouldn't be able to create a Motif interface in case you put
 it under GPL. I am having a big problems with GPL'd software now:  I
 am writing a Motif clone of WS_FTP and while the front-end is almost
 ready, I am forced to write my own back-end because the usable ftp
 software is GPL'd! I feel more then frustrated about it now.

Q: ouch!  it hurts when i do this.

A: don't do that then.

in other words, if motif is causing you problems then don't use motif.
there are several GPL-ed alternatives available, including lesstif.

craig

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Re: Beeping the Speaker

1998-02-24 Thread Michael Beattie
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Norbert Veber wrote:
 
  On Sun, Feb 22, 1998 at 02:15:46AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In bash or sh or ksh -
   
echo ^g^g
   
   Doesn't work for me.
  
  come on, its not rocket science, echo -e \a will do the trick.
 
 Sure, that does the same as `echo ^g`. The question was how to make two
 beeps. Both `echo ^g^g` and `echo -e \a\a` give you one beep.
 

Well echo ^G;sleep 1;echo ^G works, but the pause is a bit long.. need
it to be about 1/3 to 1/2 of a second... just sounds better :)


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Signify and Pine

1998-02-24 Thread Michael Beattie
My signify signature's, when used with pine sometimes die completely, and
I am completely frustrated :) And to top it all off, I only sometimes get:

[1]+  Broken pipe signify --fifo=$HOME/.signature

I suppose I should mention that I use the fifo option...
Has anyone had something similar happen to them? Or would I be best to use
a cron job and be done with it?


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Re: two keyboards, two monitors, two users, one processor?

1998-02-24 Thread Carey Evans
Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 23 Feb 1998, Carey Evans wrote:

[snip]

 I think most X apps would run tolerably over a null modem cable.  If I
 understand these gadgets right, the can operate at the speed of the serial
 port, which is about 120 kbps, I think.  Even over ppp (33k modem) many
 apps function reasonably well.

OK, you're probably right.  I forgot how much faster a null-modem is
than a 28.8K modem.

  It is easy to plug in two mice, dodgy to plug in two monitors, but
  pretty much impossible to plug in two keyboards at the moment, IMO.
 
 Good point, I hadn't even thought about it.  How sad that the part with
 bandwidth 1/100Mth video is what you can't do. 

Actually, I seem to remember now reading that it could be possible to
plug a PS/2 keyboard into a PS/2 mouse port and use it, with a bit of
work.  This might have been in some GGI documentation.

XFree86 is very unlikely to support this usage unless the kernel does
first.

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Re: How to run multiple X display servers?

1998-02-24 Thread Michael Beattie
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:

 On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:

   Looking at the startx script, I'd say you should use :1 (without quotes)
   instead of :1.0. They both mean the same to the X server but the former
   isn't recognised as a local display by the startx script.
  
   If it doesn't work, your startx script is probably one of those that don't
   really support multiple local X servers. I'd be happy to send you mine.
   It's not that big.
 
  Yes please :)

 Ok, here it is.

Ta... 

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expand for UNIX

1998-02-24 Thread Luiz Otavio L. Zorzella

Is there any program where I can extract files from that MS-DOS
expand/compress format under UNIX?

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Re: netscape communicator

1998-02-24 Thread Martin Pelikan
Hi,

so I finally fixed it up. After I installed few libraries from oldlibs
section of hamm distribution it began to work. I didn't know it was
possible to install xpm4.7 when having libc6.

thanx for help

Martin


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Free X server for Win95

1998-02-24 Thread pai

Is there a free X server for Win95 / WinNT ? If so where ? 


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Sorry This is probably a stupid question.

1998-02-24 Thread Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131
Hi all,

Sorry to ask this but what is hamm,  

I guess i should know, but I am new to this list, and Debain(after just moving
from RedHat), so if someone could please let me know, I would be grateful,
especially if anyone could give me the URL of any information.

Regards

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Re: Free X server for Win95

1998-02-24 Thread Massimo Manghi
 
 Is there a free X server for Win95 / WinNT ? If so where ? 
 

Try

http://www.microimages.com/freestuf/mix.htm

If I well remember it emulates the twm window manager.

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Fetchmail Smail Problems

1998-02-24 Thread Deniz Dogan
Hi,

I`m getting this error:

$fetchmail -k -v
[snip]
fetchmail: POP3 RETR 1
fetchmail: POP3 +OK 7064 octets
reading message 1 (7064 bytes)
fetchmail: SMTP connect to (null) failed
fetchmail: POP3 QUIT
fetchmail: POP3  ListProcessor 6.0
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from
service.raksnet.com.tr
fetchmail: normal termination, status 9

And I can`t telnet to localhost.
My /etc/hosts.deny has the `ALL: ALL` line,
/etc/hosts.allow has `ALL: 127.0.0.1`.

I`m also having trouble with smail, configured as internet
site uses smarthost for all outgoing mail. In logs there is no
error, but I the mails sent are lost. Local delivery works.

Any help will greatly appreciated.
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Re: Beeping the Speaker

1998-02-24 Thread Wojciech Zabolotny



On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Norbert Veber wrote:
 
  On Sun, Feb 22, 1998 at 02:15:46AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In bash or sh or ksh -
   
echo ^g^g
   
   Doesn't work for me.
  
  come on, its not rocket science, echo -e \a will do the trick.
 
 Sure, that does the same as `echo ^g`. The question was how to make two
 beeps. Both `echo ^g^g` and `echo -e \a\a` give you one beep.
 
What about: echo -e \a; sleep 0; echo -e \a ?

Wojtek Zabolotny
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Re: two keyboards, two monitors, two users, one processor?

1998-02-24 Thread Wojciech Zabolotny



On 24 Feb 1998, Carey Evans wrote:

 Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On 23 Feb 1998, Carey Evans wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
  I think most X apps would run tolerably over a null modem cable.  If I
  understand these gadgets right, the can operate at the speed of the serial
  port, which is about 120 kbps, I think.  Even over ppp (33k modem) many
  apps function reasonably well.
 
 OK, you're probably right.  I forgot how much faster a null-modem is
 than a 28.8K modem.
 
However using the null modem cable one must be very carefull about power
supply! Sometimes it is possible to destroy serial ports, when two
computers are connected to the sockets powered from different phases.
I've done it :-(.
The safest solution is to power both of them right from the same socket. 

Wojtek Zabolotny
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Re: Speak-Freely Problems

1998-02-24 Thread Wojciech Zabolotny
AFAIK the standard version of speak-freely is compiled with the DUPLEX
option, so it works only with the fully duplex capable hardware-driver.
AFAIK most of the drivers available in OSS-Free included into Linux system 
do not support the full duplex.
Get the source version of speek-freely package, set the
DUPLEX= -HALF_DUPLEX 
in the Makefile, and rebuild the package.

Wojtek Zabolotny
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Luke Bussanmas wrote:

 I am unable to get Speak-Freely to work on my system.  The sfspeaker
 program outputs:
 
 opening audio output device: Device or resource busy
 
 Repeated several dozen times after attempting to communicate with an echo
 server.  I realize this means that /dev/audio is still being controlled by
 another program, however I don't see a way to fix the problem.
 
 I can also easliy do cat /dev/audio  temp.au; cat temp.au  /dev/audio;
 and hear what I spoke into the microphone.
 
 TIA
 
 
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Re: Binary Directorys

1998-02-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

/bin and /sbin are usually on the root partition, availabel at
 startup; but th eroot partition has generally been small. /usr is
 generally larger, but not available at boot.

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Re: Jetdirect

1998-02-24 Thread Rolf Obrecht
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Asher Haig wrote:

 How do I go about setting up linux to print to a Jetdirect printer? The 

Hi,
I'd recommend the lprng package.

1) Install lprng
2) assign an ip-address/name to the jet-direct device
   (e.g. netprint.my.domain/192.168.1.100) and add it to /etc/hosts or
your nameservice database (remember to restart named ;)
3) Configure your jetdirect printserver according to its docs, or:
Look up its MAC-Address in the documentation,
do an arp -s netprint MAC-Address
telnet to netprint and configure it
3) put an entry in your /etc/printcap
netprint:\
:lp=netprint.my.domain%9100:\
:other-options-e.g.-input-filters/spool-dirs-et-cetera:
4) start/restart lprng

The JetDirect cards listen to tcp port 9100, and you can access the
printing engine by just forwarding the printing stuff to this port
(for example netcat can be used to do this together with stock bsd lpd,
but lprng supports the port argument directly as shown above and has a
number of additional nice features that bsd lpr lacks).

Regards
Rolf

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Re: Binary Directorys

1998-02-24 Thread Oliver Elphick
Michael Beattie wrote:
  
  Is there any significant difference between /bin|/sbin and
  /usr/bin|/usr/sbin ??? I am just interested as to why there are two bin
  and sbin directorys.

Stuff in /usr may not be present when the machine first boots - if /usr is
a separate partition.  Programs in /bin and /sbin are needed in single user
mode when /usr is not mounted.


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Re: C locale

1998-02-24 Thread Carey Evans
Corey Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I use the tcsh shell, and couldn't find any scripts that could
 possibly be setting LANG to us. Just to be sure, I manually did 'setenv
 LANG EN_us'. However, I still get the error message as follows:

Oops.  That should be en_US.  Make sure you've got wg15-locale
installed too.

Anyway, being in the US the default locale should work.  Check what
printenv says about your environment, and unset any of the locale
variables.  *Something* must be setting them, so try to find out what
it is.

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Re: formatting a floppy

1998-02-24 Thread Carey Evans
Tonetti.doc, R Tonetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How can I format a 3.5 floppy disk in Linux, either bootable or not?

% superformat /dev/fd0

(superformat is from the fdutils package.)

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Re: RFC1035 and MTA's

1998-02-24 Thread Carey Evans
Thomas Lakofski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was wondering if anyone else was feeling constrained in their choice of
 MTA's on debian because of complaints about RFC1035 and their FQDN.
 Neither smail or exim will work on my system, because, apparently, my
 domain name does not comply to RFC1035 (if this is so, neither does
 3com.com or 1800flowers.com, etc. etc.).

RFC1912 (Common DNS Operational and Configuration Errors) says:

   Allowable characters in a label for a host name are only ASCII
   letters, digits, and the `-' character.  Labels may not be all
   ^^
   numbers, but may have a leading digit  (e.g., 3com.com).  Labels must
   ^^^
   end and begin only with a letter or digit.  See [RFC 1035] and [RFC
   1123].  (Labels were initially restricted in [RFC 1035] to start with
   a letter, and some older hosts still reportedly have problems with
   the relaxation in [RFC 1123].)  Note there are some Internet
   hostnames which violate this rule (411.org, 1776.com).

[...]

   If a domain name is to be used for mail (not involving SMTP), it must
   follow the rules for mail in [RFC 822], which is actually more
   liberal than the above rules.  Labels for mail can be any ASCII
   character except specials, control characters, and whitespace
   characters.  Specials are specific symbols used in the parsing of
   addresses.  They are the characters ()@,;:\.[].  (The !
   character wasn't in [RFC 822], however it also shouldn't be used due
   to the conflict with UUCP mail as defined in RFC 976)  However, since
   today almost all names which are used for mail on the Internet are
   also names used for hostnames, one rarely sees addresses using these
   relaxed standard, but mail software should be made liberal and robust
 ^^~~^^^
   enough to accept them.
   ^

I don't think exim and smail should refuse to work just because
they're trying to be strict (it *is* just possible to run email
without DNS) but I'm not surprised if they don't work.

There's nothing wrong with 3com.com, btw, which upgrading *really* old
DNS servers wouldn't fix.

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wwwcount from hamm

1998-02-24 Thread Bujtar Janos
HI!


Is there anybody who uses wwwcount package fro hamm?


THNX

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Re: two keyboards, two monitors, two users, one processor?

1998-02-24 Thread Carey Evans
Wojciech Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 However using the null modem cable one must be very carefull about power
 supply! Sometimes it is possible to destroy serial ports, when two
 computers are connected to the sockets powered from different phases.
 I've done it :-(.

You're probably lucky it was just the serial ports.  :-/

One of my company's new shops had trouble with getting the Ethernet
going properly and continuously.  It was eventually discovered that
one PC was on the same circuit as an air conditioner, and switching
them to the same socket completely fixed the problem.

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Netscape error

1998-02-24 Thread K.Y.Lo

I had installed Netscape 4.04 communicator on Linux done.
everything is ok but it has a problem.

I tried to resize Netscape on Xwindows then later, logging off.
Next day, I loaded Netscape with Xwindows. It went crash back to 
the user prompt. 

Fatal server error:
Free: mismatched size.

What does that mean? Help me!

I enjoy surfing the www.

thank you.
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Unidentified subject!

1998-02-24 Thread Elias G. Gounaris




I am trying to downlod the resc1440.bin and it 
seems that is larger than a WIN95 formated disk do you have any 
suggestions
Thanks in advance
Elias G. Gounaris
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



/var/log/messages

1998-02-24 Thread K.Y.Lo
Hi

I had set up PPP then check /var/log/messages..

I accidentally deleted in /var/log/messages.  I want it back
How?

Help me!

Thank youz

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Re: Sorry This is probably a stupid question.

1998-02-24 Thread Frank Barknecht
Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 hat gesagt: // Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 
wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Sorry to ask this but what is hamm,  
 
 I guess i should know, but I am new to this list, and Debain(after just moving
 from RedHat), so if someone could please let me know, I would be grateful,
 especially if anyone could give me the URL of any information.
 

hamm is the codename of the current unstable distribution on the debian 
ftp-servers. It is named after a character of the film Toy Story.
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isdn shorthold support - eicon/diehl diva2

1998-02-24 Thread Piers Barber

 I want to run PPP over ISDN into an NT4 RAS. I could use diald to give 
 me connectivity on demand, but if the shorthold feature is possible, 
 I'd like to use that.
 
 I need to be able to re-establish the link with activity from either 
 end, and by using shorthold I could achieve this with just the D 
 channel and avoid the authentication dialogue each time.
 
 I'm using an Eicon DIVA 2.0 an anticipate using HiSax. Perhaps its 
 already built in, but I've RTFMed and can't find anything.
 
 Any less than obvious pitfalls in getting this to fly?
 
 Thanks for your time.
 
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Re: Getting Started

1998-02-24 Thread iquest
Hi,

  I've a Syquest (1.5 G) drive and I do not seem to be able to mount
  it onto any partition:

 mount /dev/sdca /syquest

  Always gave me some error on unknown ftype...  Did I do something
  wrong?

  Thanks!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Unfortunatly I can't install Linux on any of my
  machines, but I can  use the ASH Shell from the
  rescue disk, as I am a complete novice to Linux, I
  was wondering what to do next, where can I find some
  *simple*, and small programs on the net, how to unzip
  them, and if I need to format a drive for linux, if
  so how do I format a floppy, or my syquest backup
  drive. The reason I can't install is because I can't
  put anything decent on my work computer, HR thinks
  that would make me less productive, and  my home
  computer has some propriety hardware. Also I can't cd
  to some Rescue files, particulary proc/net/tcp, and a
  few others.

 Well, playing with Linux from the rescue disk is no fun at all :(

 I would suggest you installing Linux on your syquest (syjet?) drive.

 Alex Y.

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Re: Unidentified subject!

1998-02-24 Thread Joost Kooij
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Elias G. Gounaris wrote:

 I am trying to downlod the resc1440.bin and it seems that is larger than
 a WIN95 formated disk do you have any suggestions
 Thanks in advance
 Elias G. Gounaris
 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You have to write it to the raw disk, not to the dos filesystem.
The rawrite2.exe utility will help you do that in dos or win95.

Cheers,


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mount dos partition

1998-02-24 Thread iquest
Hi,

  I'd like to know how can 'root' mount a msdos/vfat partition
  that would allow other users (non-'root') to write file onto
  it?

  Thanks!

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Re: Getting Started

1998-02-24 Thread Tim Sailer
iquest wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
   I've a Syquest (1.5 G) drive and I do not seem to be able to mount
   it onto any partition:
 
  mount /dev/sdca /syquest
 
   Always gave me some error on unknown ftype...  Did I do something
   wrong?
 
   Thanks!

Do you have a valid partition and filesystem created on the drive?

Tim

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dpkg thinks my pentium is an i486 ?

1998-02-24 Thread Joost Kooij
Hi,

I've been playing with some package's source and now I have a question:

When I run ./debian/rules it prints lines containing:
-DHOSTTYPE='i486' -DOSTYPE='linux-gnu' -DMACHTYPE='i486-debian-linux-gnu'
I think that the it is the line
  ARCH = $(shell dpkg --print-gnu-build-architecture)
that causes this, because it outputs i486

Why does dpkg think that I have a 486 (it is a pentium)?

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Matrox Millenium II again

1998-02-24 Thread Antti Arola
Hello Debian-users,

I have installed Debian Linux 1.3.1 (from InfoMagic CD-set dated 
Aug 97). Next I would like to have XFree86 running, but with my
Matrox Millenium II I have faced some problems (I have Nokia 447Xpro 
terminal with line frequency range from 30 to 96 kHz and refresh 
frequency range from 50 to 150 Hz). I have made extensive search for 
help through newsgroups and several Linux links. It seems that in this
mailing list there have been discussions about Millenium II as well. 
But it seems to me that there are various ways to deal with this
problem and as a new Linux user I am a bit confused. XSuSE servers 
have been mentioned, on the other hand somebody says that only latest 
version of XFree86 is needed from XFree86 ftp site (they should have 
experimental version that supports Millenium II). 

I have tried XSuSE-server. I strictly followed the instructions in their
web-page under Installation of the XSuSE-X-Server, ie. I downloaded the
relevant *.tgz files (both the server and xf86config) and untarred them as
instructed. Then I run xf86config. If I then run XF86Setup, while
selecting card I get an error message. Matrox Millenium II is on the
list, but apparently cannot be selected. 

I would be extremely happy if somebody could write down short step by 
step instructions for the XFree86 installation with Matrox Millenium II,
either with XSuSE-server or some other valid way.

Best regards,

Antti


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Re: Sorry This is probably a stupid question.

1998-02-24 Thread tko
Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 writes:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Sorry to ask this but what is hamm,  

No stupid questions, just information requests 8-)

Anyhow, to answer your question, hamm is a project name for the _next_ stable
release of Debian. The current stable release is bo. Debian provides 2 kinds
of releases (distributions), stable and unstable. The stable release is the
older, least-amount-of-bugs, distribution (as the catagory implies). The
unstable release is the cutting-edge, developmental, distribution. When you
install an unstable distribution, you can expect problems, crashes,
installation variations, afterall, it is unstable! OTOH, the stable release
should install with the least number of problems. Once installed correctly, it
should not crash - because it is stable. hamm is currently unstable.

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anonymous ftp permissions

1998-02-24 Thread Paul McDermott
Hello everybody, I have an anonymous ftp site up and running.  I want to
add some debian stuff to it.  The debian is on another drive.  There was
talk about mounting the drive under the anonymous directory tree.  I can't
use hardlinks on different drives and/or partitions or filesystems.  I was
wondering why I can't use symbolic links.  I am using ncsa and there is a
config file access.conf that has an option of allowing symlinks.  What is
up I checked my permissions and ownerships for the directory that I want
to add to my ftpsite.  Can anyone help me.  I would really appreciate it.
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Some module missing...?

1998-02-24 Thread Joakim Burman
Hi, debian users

When I try to use pppd, the program is halted. 'In TOP I see insmod 
-k at the top displaying that /sbin/insmod -k consumes 90 % of CPU-time 
searching a modul (probably some PPP-modul). How do I solve this 
problem. I have to first Ctrl+C and then kill the above running.

Is there a inbound ppp-modul in Debian 1.3-kernel?

Thanks,

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Re: Getting Started

1998-02-24 Thread Alex Yukhimets
   I've a Syquest (1.5 G) drive and I do not seem to be able to mount
   it onto any partition:
 
  mount /dev/sdca /syquest
 
   Always gave me some error on unknown ftype...  Did I do something
   wrong?
 
   Thanks!

To mount the disk in syjet, you should know the partitions you have on
that disk.

Just run fdisk -l, it will list all the partitions you have on your
system. If your syjet is really /dev/sdc device, and have only one
dos partition, then mount it with
mount -t msdos /dev/sdc1 /mnt

But if you want just to install linux on the drive, you don't even need to
do that. Just insert the disk into the drive, rescue floppy into the
floppy drive and reboot the computer. Configure the keyboard and go
to the partition the hard drive menu. Select the syjet drive from there
(/dev/sdc, if it is correct) and repartion it the way you like.
You will create /dev/sdc1, /dev/sdc2, etc. partitions.
You will be prompted on where these partitions should be mounted, respond
to that and just follow the installation path. Everything will be done
automatically. Just don't try to make the hard drive bootable! Create a
boot floppy! Now, each time you want to boot linux, insert the boot floppy
you created and the syjet disk and reboot. You may remove the floppy
after booting.

Alex Y.

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re: wwwcount from hamm

1998-02-24 Thread Bujtar Janos
Bujtar Janos wrote:
 
 HI!
 
 Is there anybody who uses wwwcount package fro hamm?


Solved !!


I called the cgi script like that:   (Debian hamm / Apache) 
img src=/cgi-bin/wwwcount.cgi?df=counter.dat   Does NOT work !!

BUT:
img src=http://my.ip.addrr/cgi-bin/wwwcount.cgi?df=counter.dat; 
WORKS fine


Can anybody tell me what i did wrong 



Thnx
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GhostView / GhostScript problem...

1998-02-24 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
I have GhostView 1.5-16.1 and gs-aladdin 5.10-3 / gs 3.33-6.
Using either gs and gs-aladdin, all the files i've tried to open in
GhostView (eps,ps,pdf), have given some sort of errors, such as:
Unknown paper size: (A4).
Unrecoverable error: stackunderflow.
Unexpected interpreter error -17.
Error in object: dup
in dup
and then lots of hex numbers..

Any ideas?
Thanks,
Timothy.


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Re: bbs for debian?

1998-02-24 Thread Pere Camps
Hamish,

Sorry for taking so long in replying.
 
 Ugly solution: I'm running my RA 2.50/Bink 2.60/IMAIL 1.75/Squish 1.10
 system under dosemu on Debian 1.3.
 I just unplugged the hard drive from my DOS BBS machine and plugged
 it into my Linux box, mounted all the drives, set up dosemu
 to map them in as DOS drives and off it goes.

I was tempted to do that, but somebody told me that dosemu hangs
every two days or so of continous use. Is that true?

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Re: Matrox Millenium II again

1998-02-24 Thread Chi Wong
I think Xinside Accelerated X 4.1 supports the Matrox Series. I thikn it is
overall better than XFree86 since most of the drivers are optimized for the
specific cards. 

check it out youreself  www.xinside.com

The package doesn't come free though. It cost $100 but I think it is well
worth it.

 
 Hello Debian-users,
 
 I have installed Debian Linux 1.3.1 (from InfoMagic CD-set dated 
 Aug 97). Next I would like to have XFree86 running, but with my
 Matrox Millenium II I have faced some problems (I have Nokia 447Xpro 
 terminal with line frequency range from 30 to 96 kHz and refresh 
 frequency range from 50 to 150 Hz). I have made extensive search for 
 help through newsgroups and several Linux links. It seems that in this
 mailing list there have been discussions about Millenium II as well. 
 But it seems to me that there are various ways to deal with this
 problem and as a new Linux user I am a bit confused. XSuSE servers 
 have been mentioned, on the other hand somebody says that only latest 
 version of XFree86 is needed from XFree86 ftp site (they should have 
 experimental version that supports Millenium II). 
 
 I have tried XSuSE-server. I strictly followed the instructions in their
 web-page under Installation of the XSuSE-X-Server, ie. I downloaded the
 relevant *.tgz files (both the server and xf86config) and untarred them as
 instructed. Then I run xf86config. If I then run XF86Setup, while
 selecting card I get an error message. Matrox Millenium II is on the
 list, but apparently cannot be selected. 
 
 I would be extremely happy if somebody could write down short step by 
 step instructions for the XFree86 installation with Matrox Millenium II,
 either with XSuSE-server or some other valid way.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Antti
 
 
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Re: netscape communicator

1998-02-24 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 but how can I install the libraries depending on libc5 when I have
 libc6?

You can. If you install those from hamm/ tree - there would be no problem.
They are just installed in an alternative location.
Check out oldlibs/ section in hamm.

Alex Y.

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Re: Debian Linux and Non-Free Packages.

1998-02-24 Thread Alex Yukhimets
   I hope you'll put it under the GPL.
 
  Hope you wouldn't :)
 
  Since I wouldn't be able to create a Motif interface in case you put
  it under GPL. I am having a big problems with GPL'd software now:  I
  am writing a Motif clone of WS_FTP and while the front-end is almost
  ready, I am forced to write my own back-end because the usable ftp
  software is GPL'd! I feel more then frustrated about it now.
 
 Q: ouch!  it hurts when i do this.
 
 A: don't do that then.
 
 in other words, if motif is causing you problems then don't use motif.
 there are several GPL-ed alternatives available, including lesstif.

Hi.

I expected this :)
Guys, what I am doing is a high-quality gui programming. 
(sorry if it sounds a bit ... not humble). Even Motif is not enough
for this kind of task. I am using most of the features of Motif 2.0
(those which are also present in 2.1) - this rules lesstif out.
And still, it was not enough. I even thought of using the VERY non-free,
(check out the prices on www.klg.com), the XRT PDS widget set for Motif.
There were several other alternatives though, due to the very long history
of Motif many free widgets were created. I compared several of them
and found that the gain from XRT PDS would be minimal, ended up with using
some free (but still Motif-based) widgets (XbaeMatrix comes to mind).

If you like, I can send you a pilot prototype so that you can compare its 
look with the one of, say, gzilla. 

Thanks.

Alex Y.
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diald with dynamically assigned IP?

1998-02-24 Thread Thomas Lakofski
Hi,

Has anyone got diald running with an ISP who does not give you a static
IP?  From what I can see the slip proxy that diald uses requires you to
know what address your localhost will be assigned beforehand -- which is
tricky if it changes every time you dial up.  Has anyone experienced this
problem?

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looking for hamm/binary-all/oldlibs

1998-02-24 Thread Mike Miller
The oldlibs directory at several Debian ftp mirrors is empty?
Anyone know where they went?


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Re: Matrox Millenium II again

1998-02-24 Thread Jeff Alami
I have a Matrox Millenium II PCI with 4 MB WRAM. One of the best
resource for information on how to upgrade and configure XFree86 for
the Millenium II is the Web site for the XFree86 Matrox Team at
http://matrox.alloy.net. I got it working with the Matrox Team's
download and installation instructions.

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---Antti Arola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Debian-users,
 
 I have installed Debian Linux 1.3.1 (from InfoMagic CD-set dated 
 Aug 97). Next I would like to have XFree86 running, but with my
 Matrox Millenium II I have faced some problems (I have Nokia 447Xpro 
 terminal with line frequency range from 30 to 96 kHz and refresh 
 frequency range from 50 to 150 Hz). I have made extensive search for 
 help through newsgroups and several Linux links. It seems that in this
 mailing list there have been discussions about Millenium II as well. 
 But it seems to me that there are various ways to deal with this
 problem and as a new Linux user I am a bit confused. XSuSE servers 
 have been mentioned, on the other hand somebody says that only latest 
 version of XFree86 is needed from XFree86 ftp site (they should have 
 experimental version that supports Millenium II). 
 
 I have tried XSuSE-server. I strictly followed the instructions in
their
 web-page under Installation of the XSuSE-X-Server, ie. I
downloaded the
 relevant *.tgz files (both the server and xf86config) and untarred
them as
 instructed. Then I run xf86config. If I then run XF86Setup, while
 selecting card I get an error message. Matrox Millenium II is on the
 list, but apparently cannot be selected. 
 
 I would be extremely happy if somebody could write down short step by 
 step instructions for the XFree86 installation with Matrox Millenium
II,
 either with XSuSE-server or some other valid way.


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Re: aha2920, no disk found

1998-02-24 Thread TW Kayos
 doesn't anyone have experience installing Debian on this hardware?
Perhaps
 the card should be removed from the working hardware list, as it
doesn't
 work with linux.

What makes you think aic7xxx supports your controller?

The hardware FAQ

http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO-7.html:

7.1 Supported

 AMI Fast Disk VLB/EISA (BusLogic compatible)
 Adaptec AVA-1505/1515 (ISA) (Adaptec 152x compatible)
 Adaptec AHA-1510/152x (ISA/VLB) (AIC-6260/6360)
 Adaptec AHA-154x (ISA) (all models)
 Adaptec AHA-174x (EISA) (in enhanced mode)
 Adaptec AHA-274x (EISA) / 284x (VLB) (AIC-7770)
 Adaptec AHA 2920
 .. 



/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/drivers/scsi/README.aic7xxx says:

Supported cards/chipsets

 Adaptec Cards
---
AHA-274x
AHA-2842
AHA-2940
AHA-2940W
AHA-2940U
AHA-2940UW
   AHA-2944D
   AHA-2944WD
AHA-3940
   AHA-3940W
AHA-3985
AHA-3985W





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Re: BGP

1998-02-24 Thread Stephen Zedalis
On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Joel Klecker wrote:

gated, but there is no Debian package for it due to licensing[1] (there was
talk of doing an installer package, but nothing ever came of it). gated is
available at http://www.gated.org/.

[1] The gated consortium requires that groups who wish to distribute gated
apply for a distribution license, such a license is free, but the DFSG
requires that a license not be specifically for Debian.

Ok, but then it belongs in non-free right?

gated is too important to NOT do it at all.




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error in fdisk/cfdisk ?

1998-02-24 Thread Helmut Leinfellner
Hi there !

I've partitioned my hard drive with fdisk / cfdisk this way:

Pri 1 Linux Swap (64 MB)
Pri 2 Linux native (1200 MB)
Pro 3 DOS (2 GB)
Pri 4 Extended DOS (4-part. 800 MB)

When I verify with fdisk it (correctly!) tells me that partition 3 starts
WITHIN partition 2 !
As a consequence, DOS can't read the partition and doesn't give the correct
sizes of partitions 3+4 (only about 249 MB).

It can't use DOS FDISK to correctly set the partitions either, because it
doesn't even recognize the overall size of the hard drive (4.3 GB) !

What now ?   =:o

Thanks a lot, Helmut



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Re: BGP

1998-02-24 Thread Stephen Zedalis


On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Peter Paluch wrote:

Hello, friends,
===

I would like to ask - is there any package which enables routing using
BGP (Border Gateway Protocol) ? I know that there is routed, but it
doesn't seem to be able to use BGP.

gated, but there doesn't seem to be a debian package for it.  RedHat is
packaging gated now in 5.0.




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`icmplogd: destination unreachable from localhost'

1998-02-24 Thread Ben Pfaff
What does `icmplogd: destination unreachable from localhost' mean when
it appears in my system log?  I just installed iplogger, and I'm
curious as to what this implies.  I don't have any connectivity
problems AFAIK, yet this message appears at least once every couple of
minutes in the log.


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Backspace in Netscape

1998-02-24 Thread Bob Nielsen
I installed Netscape 4.04 with the installer in hamm.  The backspace key
results in delete rather than backspace.  I recall there was a fix for
this in earlier versions but I can't seem to find any reference about it
(3.02 didn't have this problem for me).  Backspace works correctly for
other X applications.

Any ideas?

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Re: diald with dynamically assigned IP?

1998-02-24 Thread Erv Walter
Thomas Lakofski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 Has anyone got diald running with an ISP who does not give you a static
 IP?  From what I can see the slip proxy that diald uses requires you to
 know what address your localhost will be assigned beforehand -- which is
 tricky if it changes every time you dial up.  Has anyone experienced this
 problem?

The slip proxy can have any ip you want.  They are only used to trap
the network requests while the net is down anyway.  For example, I
ahve remote set to 127.0.0.2 and local set to 127.0.0.3 for the
proxy.  Diald will detect the new ip when you connect and make the
needed adjustments (assuming you have configured it right).

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Re: /var/log/messages

1998-02-24 Thread David Stern
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 12:40:24 GMT, K.Y.Lo wrote:
 I had set up PPP then check /var/log/messages..
 
 I accidentally deleted in /var/log/messages.  I want it back
 How?

AFAIK, there's no backup copy. I'd avoid writing manually to your log 
files.  (Last night I typed mailstat and a string of text was output 
to the screen: Most people don't write to their log files manually, 
but what do I care.. :-)

If you deleted /var/log/messages (the file), then you can create a new 
one, in various ways, one of which is:

touch /var/log/messages  (you gotta be root)

I think it would be best to reboot after this, and pay attention to 
your messages, then look at /var/log/messages, to make sure it's 
logging.

One way to open a file read-only is using a pager(more, less, most):

less /var/log/messages  (or: cat /var/log/message | less)

(As always, see the respective man pages for more details.)
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Re: aha2920, no disk found

1998-02-24 Thread Richard B. Talley
On 24 Feb 98 at 9:56, TW Kayos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[back and forth about deciding if 2920 is supported snipped]

This is a perfect example of why computers (any OS, any platform) are such 
a pain (can't find the one detail you need) and why the 'net is such a 
wonderful tool.

The hardware howto does in fact list the 2920 as supported.
However, the aic7xxx readme does NOT list the 2920.

Conclusion: 2920 is supported, but not by the aic7xxx driver.

I did some searching using Dejanews and the archives for this mailing 
list. Here's what I found:

The Adaptec 2920 is in fact a Future Domain TMC3260.

Windows 95 correctly identifies it as a Future Domain (score 1 for 
Redmond).

To use this SCSI adapter with Linux you need to use the fdomain driver 
*not* the aic7xxx driver.

At the LILO boot you should add
fdomain=0xEFA0,11
(These are my settings, YMMV)

or add the command to lilo.conf thusly:
append=fdomain=0xEFA0,11

The fdomain driver can be compiled into the kernal (recommended) or added 
as a module.

I don't have Linux (yet) on my box with the 2920. Would someone please 
confirm that my research is correct and that this procedure does in fact 
work?


Richard B. Talley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: looking for hamm/binary-all/oldlibs

1998-02-24 Thread aqy6633
 The oldlibs directory at several Debian ftp mirrors is empty?
 Anyone know where they went?

My guess would be that you are looking for hamm/hamm/binary-i386/oldlibs/

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How can I create new dpkg status file?

1998-02-24 Thread Patrick Ouellette
My status file got clobbered (ok, it was removed from /var while I was looking 
for more space to work in).  Is there any way to get dpkg to look at my system 
and update the installed packages list based on what is actually on the system?

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Re: aha2920, no disk found

1998-02-24 Thread David Stern
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 09:56:28 CST, TW Kayos wrote:
  [..]
 What makes you think aic7xxx supports your controller?
 
 The hardware FAQ
 
 http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO-7.html:
 
 7.1 Supported
 [..]
 Adaptec AHA 2920
 .. 

It does NOT say that the 2920 is supported by the aic7xxx driver (it 
only says that it's supported).  If you use the wrong driver, it's not 
going to work.

Someone already wrote and said they did a dejagnus search and found 
that this was a Future Domain chipset.

Get a cup of coffee and wake up! :-)
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Re: Free X server for Win95

1998-02-24 Thread mike
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, pai wrote:

 
 Is there a free X server for Win95 / WinNT ? If so where ? 
Well this isn't exactly a X server but it's the next best thing
*AND* it's gpl'd look at http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc/  The win32 server is a
little slow, but the win32 client is pretty peppy.

mike...

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Re: Viewing bootup message

1998-02-24 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Mon, Feb 23, 1998 at 10:32:47PM +0800, Lindsay Allen wrote:
 I have spent quite some time on this one.  Reverting to the bo
 svgatextmode does not help.  The thing that makes the difference is the
 particular font chosen.  If I use 80x25, 80x25x9 or 80x25x8 I can still
 scroll right back to the bios messages.  But if I use 116x34x9 I cannot
 scroll back at all.  It appears, then, that a significant change of font
 causes a reset.  

Maybe there is not enough video ram to have any scroll-back? I have a 2MB
card and at 100x37 (and 110Hz thanks to SVGATextmode :-) ) I can press 
S-Up about six or seven times.

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Re: lpr remote printing

1998-02-24 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Sat, Feb 21, 1998 at 02:49:36AM -0600, Alex Romosan wrote:
 the problem is the missing link to /var/spool from /usr/spool. since

base-files_1.6.1 has removed this link as it is against FHS, it might be put
back in before the release, but it is good that we can find broken
packages now. 

 there are no references to /usr/spool/lpd in lpd, this most certainly
 comes from the /etc/printcap file. it certainly does on my system (the
 printcap is generated automatically by the distributed printing
 people). which brings up one of the things that i am beginning to find
 annoying about linux these days: this so called file system standard,
 which seems to be getting weirder and weirder every day, and more and
 more different than the other unixes. i used unix long before there
 was even linux, and for a while it was a pleasure to watch linux
 transform itself into a full fledged unix-like operating system. but
 now it is beginning to suffer from the emacs syndrome, insisting on
 doing things its own way for the sake of being different (or so it
 seems to me). don't get me wrong, i love linux and emacs (i am typing
 this in emacs on a debian/linux machine) but i do think that the fsf
 people suffer form terminal grandeur and debian, by choosing to follow
 them so closely, is beginning to exhibit the same symptoms.

There is no correct level of backwards compatability, I find Linux
refreshing that it doesn't shy away from severing backwards compatibly links
although your point is a good one. Indeed one of the main reasons for the
DFSG is that it means that we *can* fix all the packages in main. We have
twenty different unixes and one NT - which do *you* think is
easier^H^H^H^H^Hcheaper to port to :-(

Unfortunately the computer industry is the most backwards one in the world
IMHO. VHS vs Betamax is often quoted as an example of bad technology winning
over good technology, but the computer industry is just depressing:

   PCs, x86 chips, (E)IDE, TCP/IP, Ethernet, MS-DOS, Windows 3.x, Windows 95, 
NT,
   the list goes on... 

One of the few exceptions seem to be 3.5 disks which did eventually oust
5.25.

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Re: X-Windows Question

1998-02-24 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Fri, Feb 20, 1998 at 12:28:32AM +0100, Hubert Fauque wrote:
 Fulgham, Brent/SCO wrote:
  
  I get the dread:
  _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno=111
  xinit: Connection refused (errno 111) unable to connect to X
  
 try
 xhost name of your computer
 in your .xsession

Wah! This is a *big* security risk - anyone one your computer can see your
screen (and passwords, keystrokes,...)

You need a file called .Xauthority in your home directory - AFAIK it is made
by the Xserver on startup. It should look something like this (the
permissions are important - it must not be readable by anyone else):

[2]wyvern:~$ ls -l .Xauthority
-rw---   1 bridgett mdev2 150 Feb 23 19:27 .Xauthority

Try looking at the xauth manpage.

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Re: BGP

1998-02-24 Thread Scott Ellis
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Stephen Zedalis wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Joel Klecker wrote:
 
 gated, but there is no Debian package for it due to licensing[1] (there was
 talk of doing an installer package, but nothing ever came of it). gated is
 available at http://www.gated.org/.
 
 [1] The gated consortium requires that groups who wish to distribute gated
 apply for a distribution license, such a license is free, but the DFSG
 requires that a license not be specifically for Debian.
 
 Ok, but then it belongs in non-free right?

Nope.  You need to sign a licence to distribute it at all (including in
non-free) and Debian isn't willing to sign the licence (and you can't just
have someone else sign the licence and then upload it to non-free).

 gated is too important to NOT do it at all.

While gated is important, it is more important for Debian to adhere to its
stated policies and goals which are located at:
http://www.debian.org/social_contract.html

Gated source is out there, if you need it you can compile it and install
it yourself (or build yourself a Debian package of it for your own use).

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Re: Getting Started

1998-02-24 Thread Keith Beattie
Robert Smith wrote:

 drive. The reason I can't install is because I can't
 put anything decent on my work computer, HR thinks
 that would make me less productive, and  my home
 computer has some propriety hardware. Also I can't cd

I'd consider searching for an old 486 (or even a 386) beater system
to learn on.

Keith


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Port Scanning

1998-02-24 Thread matthew tebbens

Is there anything out there to stop people from port scanning my system ?
I had someone last night scan my system from port 1 to 50,000 !

I heard that there is a portscand out there somewhere, if so where ?

Thanks,
Matthew


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Cyrix 586/100

1998-02-24 Thread Matthew Vernon
Can anyone tell me if this processor is compatible with debian, and if any
special installation procedures will be required?

Thanks,

Matthew

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Re: GhostView / GhostScript problem...

1998-02-24 Thread Jens Ritter
Timothy M. Hospedales [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have GhostView 1.5-16.1 and gs-aladdin 5.10-3 / gs 3.33-6.

Both gs? They conflict. Ah, one after the other

 Using either gs and gs-aladdin, all the files i've tried to open in
 GhostView (eps,ps,pdf), have given some sort of errors, such as:

different sort`s of errors? Or always the same?

 Unknown paper size: (A4).
 Unrecoverable error: stackunderflow.
 Unexpected interpreter error -17.
 Error in object: dup
 in dup
 and then lots of hex numbers..

is libpaperg installed and configured?

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Re: Strangeness at boot

1998-02-24 Thread Dominic Davidson
On Tue, Feb 24, 1998 at 01:50:54AM +0100, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
 Aha, your /bin/sh is probably not bash, but ash. Older versions of ash
 do not reckognize the (posix) signal names (as opposed to numbers). This
 should have been fixed AFAIK. Try to update whatever your /bin/sh is
 to the latest version ..

Doh! I set this myself the other day, for some reason or other. Nice
to know that it's nothing to do with hardware at all :-).

Thanks,

-Dom


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Bug in EGCS?

1998-02-24 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Hi,
this small program doesn't seem to work properly with egcs. I was wondering if
this is a kwown bug/problem or if I am just doing something *very* stupid:


#include iostream.h
#include iomanip.h
main()
{
 cout.fill(' '); 
 for(float i=0;i10;i+=0.1)
  cout  setprecision(2)  setw(5)  i  endl;
}

Output:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@0.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@0.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@0.3
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@0.4
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@0.5
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@0.6
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@0.7
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@0.8
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@0.9
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@1.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@1.2
...

AFAIK, there should be no ^@ in the output but spaces. 
This works OK. with the old
gcc.

Thanks,
Luis.

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