Klyx Debian package available

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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Hey all.  I just finished putting together a Debian package of the KDE
based Klyx document processor.  The file is currently available from
ftp://spider.ddns.org

Hopefully I'll find a better place for it soon, though, as my bandwidth is
rather limited.  Here's a description of Klyx from the Klyx website
(http://www-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/users/ettrich/klyx/klyx.html)

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LyX is a modern approach of writing documents with a computer which breaks
with the tradition of the obsolete typewriter concept. It is designed
for people who want a professional output with a minimum of time effort,
without becoming specialists in typesetting. Compared to common word 
processors KLyX will increase the productivity a lot, since most of the
type- setting will be done by the computer, not the author. With KLyX the
author can concentrate on the contents of his writing, since the computer
will take care of the look. 
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If you have trouble downloading the file, let me know.

Noah

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more intellimouse

[Richard Sevenich]

The mouse works OK outside of X, started via
gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2
gpmconfig actually wants 'ms3' according to its help option, rather than ps2
but won't accept ms3 (maybe linux chokes on any 'ms' concatenation :)  ).

Still wanting hints to get this thing X happy.

TIA, Richard

Re: Best Way to Upgrade From 1.3 to 2.00

[Will Lowe]

> I have the cdroms from linux press and I was wondering if it would be
> easier to upgrade or start anew. how much downloading would i have to
> do?

I haven't noticed a reply to this,  so I'll reply.

It's not tough to upgrade via ftp.  Make sure you follow the directions on
the website or use autoup.sh,  though,  because you can trash a working
system by doing things in the wrong order.  Upgrading by ftp is pretty
easy -- once you get the base of the system upgraded,  use "apt" (from
within dselect) and try its http and ftp methods,  which are considerably
faster than dpkg-ftp for me.

You can probably download most of the package (apt will do it for you) in
a few hours over a modem link.  The problem with the 1.3->2.0 upgrade is
that you've got to install new versions of most of the packages on your
system.

On the other hand,  having a CD around isn't a bad idea,  either.  I keep
one around of the current stable release just in case I need to fix
something while someone's on the phone at my house.  They're pretty cheap.

 Will

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intellimouse

[Richard Sevenich]

I've just installed 2.0 Beta on my new-to-me Gateway. The mouse works, but
not well enough to be useful. For example, it does let me install X - but
it isn't able to operate coherently.
Details:
It is a microsoft intellimouse
Upon bailing out of X with , I get the message:
"Warning: /dev/psaux unable to unable to get status of mouse fd (Inappropriate
 ioctl for device)"

Any hints appreciated!
TIA, Richard

debian.org should be back in four hours (22:00 GMT)

[Martin Schulze]

I wrote:

> this morning the domain name 'debian.org' was removed from the
> root nameservers.

The issue is resolved in the first place now.  The domain name
will be re-activated at about 7pm NSI (InterNIC) time.  This
refers to ~22:00 GMT.

I'm sending a second mail to the lists where I tell you
how the lists will work meanwhile.

> As a result you might not be able to send mail to
> 
>  . lists.debian.org
>  . bugs.debian.org
>  . packages.debian.org
>  . debian.org itself

Since this is equal to debian.novare.net you can re-direct mail
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards,

Joey

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Re: RAM Sizing

[Robert J. Alexander]

Mike Barton wrote:
> 
> Hi all!
> 
> I've got a Debian 2.0 system running on a GateWay NS/7000 - 2 200 MHZ
> PPros & 256M RAM. My question is how to size the RAM. The machine
> currently reports 65M RAM so I assume that I'll need to specify the
> actual amount of RAM at startup. What's the best way to do this? Has
> anyone come up with a way for the loader/kernel to automatically do
> this?
> 
> Thanks
> ..
> 
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By default you will only see the first 64MB RAM (See the help in the
kernel source make xconfig).

To solve this you must simply pass the "mem=256M" parameter to your lilo
prompt.

You can make this permanent with an "append" line in you lilo config
(see mine):

boot=/dev/hda
   compact
   install=/WIN95_C/boot.b
   map=/WIN95_C/map
   vga=normal
   delay=100
image=/vmlinuz
   label=linux
   root=/dev/hdb1
   read-only
   append="mem=80M"

I have read that on some machines you could have problems with 80MB RAM
(what a lucky guy am I : have only 80MB 8->). 

Cheers.
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Re: RAM Sizing

[Will Lowe]

> I've got a Debian 2.0 system running on a GateWay NS/7000 - 2 200 MHZ
> PPros & 256M RAM. My question is how to size the RAM. The machine
> currently reports 65M RAM so I assume that I'll need to specify the
> actual amount of RAM at startup. What's the best way to do this? Has
> anyone come up with a way for the loader/kernel to automatically do
> this?
The kernel can't.  Apparently some older machines have screwy memory
systems that cause problems if you try to search for memory above 64meg,
so the kernel just doesn't.  You can convince it you've got more than 64
with the mem= parameter,  usually passed in at boot-time.  For you,  it'd
be mem=256M,  and you can do it in lilo by specifying

append="mem=256M" in the stanza for your linux kernel.

Will


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RAM Sizing

[Mike Barton]

Hi all!

I've got a Debian 2.0 system running on a GateWay NS/7000 - 2 200 MHZ
PPros & 256M RAM. My question is how to size the RAM. The machine
currently reports 65M RAM so I assume that I'll need to specify the
actual amount of RAM at startup. What's the best way to do this? Has
anyone come up with a way for the loader/kernel to automatically do
this?

Thanks
..

Re: xdm starts local server

[Daniel Martin at cush]

(This is being resent, as I have had to reconfigure my mail program to
get around internic's objection to the debian.org name)

Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Aug 12, 1998 at 03:20:30PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Why you get different behaviour from xdm and start might be explained by
> > this:  There's a script /etc/X11/Xsession that claims to be run by both
> > xdm and xinit (to which startx is a wrapper.)  The script seems to look
> > for ~/.xsession only though.  Maybe it isn't run after all from xinit on
> > Debian systems.  That means that the comments in the file are misleading. 
> 
> I don't actually have either ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc, which is why I find
> this all the more strange.

Ok - what about your /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file?  This should be a
symbolic link to ../Xsession; if it isn't, then I can understand why
you get this odd behavior.

If it is a symbolic link, then something must be going wrong in the
/etc/X11/Xsession script when started by startx.  Tell me, is the file 
~/.xsession-errors created when you start X with startx?  (Delete the
file first, as it's surely being created when you log in via xdm)  If
so, do the contents of that file after starting X with startx provide
any clue as to what's going on?

Re: resolv.conf, PPP and multiple providers

[Daniel Martin at cush]

(This is being resent because it was mercilessly bounced... :( )

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> *- Damon Muller wrote about "resolv.conf, PPP and multiple providers"
> | 
> | However, anyone have any hints on how to set up the resolv.conf file
> | when you have multiple ISPs? I guess I could have an ip-up script modify
> | it when it dials each ISP, but that's a bit of a pain.
> | 
> 
> That is about the only way to do it.  Read
> /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Dynamic-IP-Hacks.gz.  It is a little out of date
> but it has some good ideas.  Another file to modify is /etc/hosts.

Note that under Debian 2.0, /etc/ppp/ip-up is a script that runs every 
file under /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ - so if you want to add something it's
easiest to do it by adding a new file to that directory (note that the 
filename must only contain the alphanumeric characters and
underscore(_) ).

On simple way to do this is:

#!/bin/bash
get_ns () {
  case "$PPP_REMOTE" in
128.220.222.2)  echo "128.220.2.7 128.220.2.82" ;;
137.22.*) echo "137.22.1.13 137.22.1.15 137.22.1.4" ;;
203.20.*) echo "203.20.80.1 203.34.5.3" ;;
  esac
}
echo -n > /etc/resolv.conf
# Next line optional
echo "search empire.net.au" >> /etc/resolv.conf
for ns in `get_ns`; do echo "nameserver $ns" >> /etc/resolv.conf; done

Intent to Package kbackup

[Jens Ritter]

kbackup is a console backup solution primarily for single hosts and
tapes. It was shareware but not it´s GP licensed.

You can find it at:
http://www.phy.hw.ac.uk/~karsten/KBackup.html

Jens 
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Re: Sound cards

[Ehren Wilson]

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Panzer wrote:

> Can someone please recommend a good sound card for use with Linux,
> (~$30) I know that SB's are compatable but you can't find any without a
> PnP ISA interface.  Isn't there an easier way?  Also I've heard the OSS
> system is, well, crummy. Are they planning on replacing it?
> 
> Mark Panzer

If you are adventurous and wish to try something else than the OSS system
there is the alsa system which supports a fairly broad variety of sound
cards  and is supposedly fairly
backwards compatible with OSS applications.  If you decide to stick with
OSS there is a listing of sound cards that are supported by it, and
remember that SB compatible doesn't mean that will work with the SB drives
in OSS, although a few do.  Hope this helps steer you in the right 
direction towards a soundcard.

Ehren Wilson

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Re: 256MB RAM systems can need 1GB swap... Re: Partitioning....

[Michael Stone]

Quoting Liran Zvibel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 2. Putting the swap in several different disks does make the access time
> faster, but this is not the issue of RAID. RAIDs are good for their
> ability to continue working even though one of the disks is not working
> anymore (the RAID3 keeps an extra disk for parity bits, while the RAID5
> does it on the "regular" disks.)

You're forgetting RAID0, which stripes data across multiple drives but
does not include any error-recovery.

Mike Stone

Re: 256MB RAM systems can need 1GB swap... Re: Partitioning....

[Liran Zvibel]

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Christopher Barry wrote:

> 
> Anyone care to explain why huge swap spaces should be spread across
> multiple disks? I can understand the need for multiple partitions, as
> swap partitions bigger than 128MB IIRC won't be able to use more than
> 128MB of it, but why should the multiple partitions be spread across
> multiple disks? Does doing this automatically make them RAID like so
> that writes and reads for the swap space are distributed so that each
> additional disk you distribute swap across increases your overall swap
> speed as is true with some RAID levels?
1. It is not true (any more...) that the kernel doesn't use more then
128MB, it can use up to 4GB in one partition.
2. Putting the swap in several different disks does make the access time
faster, but this is not the issue of RAID. RAIDs are good for their
ability to continue working even though one of the disks is not working
anymore (the RAID3 keeps an extra disk for parity bits, while the RAID5
does it on the "regular" disks.)

> 
> If this is true, then in the name of the eaking out every last bit of
> swap performance that I'll never use I may just hook up an old unused
> 2GB SCSI disk I have (well, unused until I have enough other 'unused'
> parts to build a new computer to use it) and distribute my swap across
> it and my current disk (and mind as well make a few extra ext2
> partitions on it while it's sitting on the SCSI chain so it sees more
> use). Certainly couldn't hurt, but might give me a 1% performance boost
> .0001% of the time I'm using my computer. :)

You can do that, just remember that if you r computer has enough physical
memory, and you don't use a lot of "heavy" processes (Netscape + a mail
reader is not enough), the swap space will not be used, and if your system
will have to use 2GB worth of swap space it will crash because of the
thrashing...

> 
> Steve Lamb wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:31:14 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:
> > 
> > >Well,  give yourself at least twice as much swap space as physical memory
> > >(for 64 megs of ram,  go for 128 megs of swap).  Swap should be a seperate
> > >partition.
> > 

This is not true, you can use swap files, and not swap partitions.

Liran.
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xntp running behind

[Paul Reavis]

For some reason xntp is reading an hour early (correct time T-1hr). I'm
in Athens, GA, USA which is EST with daylight savings nonsense. Could
that have some affect? /etc/timezone reads EST. On a related note, where
do I look to understand timezone configuration?

Thanks-

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Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)

[Manoj Srivastava]

Hi,
>>"M" == M C Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 M> Hmm. I prefer Schildt's C the complete reference.

Gack! The annotations are kown to be incorrect; the man even
 fails to describe the standard he has in front of him. On the
 comp.lang.c newsgroup, people have stated they can open the book at
 any random page, and have so far not failed to find an error within
 two pages.

It is a cheap way to get the standard, though. Just ignore
 Schildt's own contribution.

manoj
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Re: printing not working

[Mark Phillips]

On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 09:43:56PM +0930, Mark Phillips wrote:
> > 
> > I'm trying to get printing working on a friend's new laptop.  He actually
> > had it working on his old laptop.  When we tried printing first up,
> > it didn't print, and we got the following error:
> > 
> > $ lpq
> > Printer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  'Generic dot-matrix printer entry'
> >  Queue: 1 printable job
> >  Server: pid 6836 active
> >  Unspooler: pid 6837 active
> >  Status: cannot open '/dev/lp1' - 'Device not configured', attempt 1,
> 
> Do you have printer support compiled in the kernel?

It is a module.  When I do lsmod I get:

Module PagesUsed by
serial_cs  10serial 8[serial_cs] 1
xirc2ps_cs 30ds 2[serial_cs
xirc2ps_cs]  4
i82365 54pcmcia_core8[serial_cs
xirc2ps_cs ds i82365]0
psaux  11 (autoclean)
ppp51slhc   2[ppp]   1
lp 20
 
So as you see, lp is loaded.

> does "echo "Here I am" > /dev/lp1" work? If not, recompile your kernel and
> activate parallel printer support.

When I do the echo command above it just hangs.

What does it mean?

Thanks,

Mark


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Sound cards

[Mark Panzer]

Can someone please recommend a good sound card for use with Linux,
(~$30) I know that SB's are compatable but you can't find any without a
PnP ISA interface.  Isn't there an easier way?  Also I've heard the OSS
system is, well, crummy. Are they planning on replacing it?

Mark Panzer

Re: 256MB RAM systems can need 1GB swap... Re: Partitioning....

[Mark Panzer]

Christopher Barry wrote:
> 
> The latest Debian install manual when addressing the need of how big you
> need to make your swap partition says:
> 
> "That still leaves the question of swap space. There are as many views
> on how much swap you need as there are Unix administrators. One rule of
> thumb which works well is to use as much swap as you have RAM, although
> there probably isn't much point in going over 64MB of swap for most
> users. If you start using that much swap, you should get more RAM. Of
> course, there are exceptions. If you are trying to solve 1
> simultaneous equations on a machine with 256MB of RAM you may need a
> gigabyte (or more) of swap. If your swap requirements are this high,
> however, you should probably try to spread the swap across different
> disks."
> 
> So I suppose the "For workstations the more RAM you have, the less
> you'll need SWAP" isn't true for 100% of workstations, but I'll be
> damned if my 64MB Pentium-MMX has ever swapped much even with Netscape
> mail and bunch of browsers open and a kernel compile running in the
> background.
> 

Wow are you lucky, for some reason when I run netscape it sucks all of
my RAM and uses ~30Mb of swap (and all my 32Mb of RAM).  I posted a
question about a month ago on this but those who helped me noticed some
of the same problems but not to the extent that I had.  

> Anyone care to explain why huge swap spaces should be spread across
> multiple disks? I can understand the need for multiple partitions, as
> swap partitions bigger than 128MB IIRC won't be able to use more than
> 128MB of it, but why should the multiple partitions be spread across
> multiple disks? Does doing this automatically make them RAID like so
> that writes and reads for the swap space are distributed so that each
> additional disk you distribute swap across increases your overall swap
> speed as is true with some RAID levels?
> 

If you spread the swap partitons across multiple disks then SCSI can do
some 'multitasking' buy telling disks to read or write data while
waiting for another disk to finish it's operation.

> If this is true, then in the name of the eaking out every last bit of
> swap performance that I'll never use I may just hook up an old unused
> 2GB SCSI disk I have (well, unused until I have enough other 'unused'
> parts to build a new computer to use it) and distribute my swap across
> it and my current disk (and mind as well make a few extra ext2
> partitions on it while it's sitting on the SCSI chain so it sees more
> use). Certainly couldn't hurt, but might give me a 1% performance boost
> .0001% of the time I'm using my computer. :)
> 

Yah, but it makes you feel good doesn't it?

> Steve Lamb wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:31:14 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:
> >
> > >Well,  give yourself at least twice as much swap space as physical memory
> > >(for 64 megs of ram,  go for 128 megs of swap).  Swap should be a seperate
> > >partition.
> >
> > Actually, this is antiquated advice to be handing out.  On my Debian
> > system this is what free turns up:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/morpheus}free
> >  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
> > Mem: 63332  61784   1548  27160  32000  16208
> > -/+ buffers/cache:  13576  49756
> > Swap:14328 16  14312
> >
> > 14Mb of SWAP and 63Mb of RAM.  For workstations the more RAM you have,
> > the less you'll need SWAP.  The only time this machine has touched swap was
> > because of the Netscape memory leak.  So why waste the HD space for 
> > something
> > that is never used?

Really?  What version of netscape do you have, and more importantly is
it fixed in the newer versions?

> >
> > Also, the 2x RAM rule of thumb is based on, IIRC, BSD systems which map
> > RAM into the swap space so to get any swap you had to make the swap 
> > partition
> > as large as RAM and then some.
> >
> > So, for a workstation, the lower the RAM I'd say the larger the swap.
> > Something like:
> > RAM/SWAP
> >   4/32
> >   8/32
> >  16/24
> >  32/16
> >  64/16
> >
> > Servers, the rule of thumb is, what do you plan to run on the machine 
> > and
> > make sure your RAM/SWAP covers it.
> >
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Re: clock skew ???

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Tue, Jan 13, 1998 at 01:10:47PM +0100, Jens Ch. Lisner wrote:
> I've got a strange warning after "make menuconfig" with
> kernel-source-2.0.34. It says "clock skew detected". I don't know what it
> means. Can you help?

Is your kernel source located on an NFS mount? If the NFS server's clock
is ahead of the local machine, files created due to make will have timestamps
in the future, which confuses make. Hence, it reports clock skew.

NFS is the most obvious reason for this to occur; there could be others
but I can't think of any, unless you changed the clock (either by hand
or xntp/netdate etc) while running make menuconfig.

Hamish
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Re: Burning Debian CDs with Windows/NT software

[Nathan E Norman]

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Arifi Koseoglu wrote:

 : Hello again,
 : 
 : This is the second time I am posting this message, since I find it
 : really hard to believe that no one in this list was able to suggest a
 : solution. I will be really thankful if someone can help me with this
 : question:
 : 
 : I downloaded the Debian CD images, and unsuccessfully tried to write
 : them to CDs using the following applications:
 : 
 : HP SureStore cd writer software
 : Adaptec EZ CD-Writer
 : 
 : Although I changed the .raw extensions to .iso, the software listed
 : above did not recognize them as ISO9660 CD images and attempted to 
 : just copy the file to the CD, which is of course useless.
 : 
 : The MD5 checksums of the files are correct.

Your CD software doesn't understand what to do with an .iso file.  Get
some software that can (RTFM the CD-writing HOWTO perhaps?)

I believe that with the Adaptec version, for example, you need the
CD-writer "Pro" software (or whatever it's called).

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multiple CDROM installation

[Richard L. Grabbe]

At 10:00 AM 8/12/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Ok, so it looks like you're using the right driver. Are you sure the
kernel you're
>trying to boot includes the mcdx support? Are you booting the debian
rescue disk? The
>CDROM-HOWTO says 'mcdx=,' so I don't know why you've got
that long
>string below. If you still have windows on the target machine, why not
find out from
>windows what io address and IRQ are being used?
>
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>
>
>
according to a document I found 
http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/PEOPLE/Linus/v1.3/patch-html/patch-pre2.0.1
3/linux_Documentation_cdrom_mcdx.html


+If you are using the driver as a module, you can specify your ports and IRQs
+like 
-and so on ("address,IRQ" pairs). When You intend to use more then one
-drive, it's necessary to edit the mcdx.h file found in
-/usr/src/linux/include/linux. Instead of providing the values on the
-command line, You can "hardwire" them all in mcdx.h. The command line
-values take precedence over the values in mcdx.h. 
+ # insmod mcdx.o mcdx=0x300,11,0x304,5
~~
I am running the new release "official" debian 2.0.

I am booting from the hard disk.

the system is total Linux

the system has 3 Mitsumi cdroms FX001D

and they all worked in DOS before i installed

linux. I couldn't get the system to load off the

cdrom. so I copied the files to the second drive

and installed to the first. then i ran cfdisk and

converted the second drive to Linux.


cdrom 1 address 310 irq 9
cdrom 2 address 360 irq 11
cdrom 3 address 390 irq 10

1 smc eithernet card address 280 irq 15

FTP works, cdrom 1 works, the mouse works on serial port 1.

when the document said You can "hardwire" them all in mcdx.h.

how do you incorporate that change into the kernel?

or does that document not apply to debian 2.0?



Richard Grabbe 
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debian.org removed from root nameservers

[Martin Schulze]

Hi,

this morning the domain name 'debian.org' was removed from the
root nameservers.

At the moment we don't know what has caused this.

We have sent an inquiry to the InterNIC about this and tried
to phone them up.  No response yet.

As a result you might not be able to send mail to

 . lists.debian.org
 . bugs.debian.org
 . packages.debian.org
 . debian.org itself

You might receive bounces saying 'host not found'.  In that case
please postpone your mail until this is fixed.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)

[Liran Zvibel]

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Liran Zvibel wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Where is the documentation for C ? i.e. language help?
> > > 
> > > I have a hard time remembering syntax and stuff.. :)
> > > 
> > >Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > If you know the name of the function just type 
> > man function
> 
> Perfect, but I have not got the appropriate package installed, and I cant
> seem to find it.. call me stupid, blind whatever... where can the C
> manpages / info pages be found. When I used DO$ to program, DJGPP had info
> pages on all sorts of things.. surely there is an equivalent? I just cant
> find the package :)
> 
Try the manpages-dev package.
> 
>Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: man missing :-)

[Alexey Vyskubov]

On Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 07:54:05AM -0400, Hersh, Harry wrote:
> I'm a new linux user (but an old unix hacker) who can't figure out what
> happened to man, the manpage reader. I've installed a system via
> floppies and the net (no cd yet on this machine), and can see the man
> directories and the compressed manfiles (using zmore dumps a page with
> all the nroff commands in it) , but cannot locate a reader on the
> system. 

Did you install "man-db" package? It contains /usr/bin/man.
And, of course, you *may* *read* man pages with zcat | nroff | less :)))
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Re: man missing :-)

[Frank Barknecht]

Hersh, Harry hat gesagt: // Hersh, Harry wrote:

> I'm a new linux user (but an old unix hacker) who can't figure out what
> happened to man, the manpage reader. I've installed a system via
> floppies and the net (no cd yet on this machine), and can see the man
> directories and the compressed manfiles (using zmore dumps a page with
> all the nroff commands in it) , but cannot locate a reader on the
> system. 
> 
> Have I failed to download a critical package? Is there some other
> utility to use instead to read the pages?

You want to install the package:

man-db - Display the on-line manual.
 
This packages provides the man command, this utility is the primary way of
examining the on-line help files (manual pages). Other utilities provided
include the whatis and apropos commands for searching the manual page
database; the manpath utility for determining the manual page search path  
and the maintenance utilities mandb, catman and zsoelim. This package uses
the groff suit of programs to format and display the manual pages. 

It's in the section "docs". 

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Re: man missing :-)

[Robert Ramiega]

On Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 07:54:05AM -0400, Hersh, Harry wrote:
> I'm a new linux user (but an old unix hacker) who can't figure out what
> happened to man, the manpage reader. I've installed a system via
 Try installing man-db =o)
> utility to use instead to read the pages?
 hmmm strnage way would be soemthnig like
groff -Tascii -man man_file | most

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man missing :-)

[Hersh, Harry]

I'm a new linux user (but an old unix hacker) who can't figure out what
happened to man, the manpage reader. I've installed a system via
floppies and the net (no cd yet on this machine), and can see the man
directories and the compressed manfiles (using zmore dumps a page with
all the nroff commands in it) , but cannot locate a reader on the
system. 

Have I failed to download a critical package? Is there some other
utility to use instead to read the pages?

Thanks,

Harry Hersh

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Re: [FAQ] Re: Partitioning....

[Frank Barknecht]

Will Lowe hat gesagt: // Will Lowe wrote:

> > I am about to install hamm.  I have dedicated 2.6gigs to it.  I have
> > seen several FAQs and HowTo's on the subject of partitions sizes,
> > unfortunately they all say something different.  What I want to know is
> > what is the best way to partition the 2.6 gigs?  
> 
> Well,  give yourself at least twice as much swap space as physical memory
> (for 64 megs of ram,  go for 128 megs of swap).  Swap should be a seperate
> partition.

AFAIK it is not nessecary to have twice as much swap space as RAM. I have 64 M
Ram but only 32 M swap and everything works fine - even compiling The Gimp...

Isn't this "twice as much swap"-rule a leftover from old commercial unix days?
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Re: clock skew ???

[Corey Popelier]

On Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:10:47 +0100 (CET), you scribbled:

>
>Hi all,
>
>I've got a strange warning after "make menuconfig" with
>kernel-source-2.0.34. It says "clock skew detected". I don't know what it
>means. Can you help?

Your post seems to think it was done in January :-) I would suggest checking
your BIOS and altering the system date/time there if necessary. This may/may
not correct this problem.


Cheers,
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 Technical Support Officer
 Q-Net Australia Pty Ltd

clock skew ???

[Jens Ch. Lisner]

Hi all,

I've got a strange warning after "make menuconfig" with
kernel-source-2.0.34. It says "clock skew detected". I don't know what it
means. Can you help?

thanx,
Jens

Re: Burning Debian CDs with Windows/NT software

[peloy]

Arifi Koseoglu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I downloaded the Debian CD images, and unsuccessfully tried to write
> them to CDs using the following applications:
> 
> HP SureStore cd writer software
> Adaptec EZ CD-Writer

I really prefer to use Linux to burn my CD's. I don't really like
booting into Windows NT just to burn CD's, and besides, I don't like
Windows NT as much as Linux :-)

I am using the latest 2.1.x kernels, mkeisfs/mkhybrid and cdrecord to
burn CD's with an external HP SureStore 7100e and haven't had any
problem at all. It works like a charm. And besides, you can do other
things with your machine while you are burning a CD (like compiling a
kernel :-). With Windows NT I wouldn't take that risk because it could
crash, or it could stop sending data to the writing software,
corrupting the CD you are burning.

peloy.-

Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)

[Michael Beattie]

On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
> | 
> | Well, the 'strcpy' man page is in the manpages-dev package, that sounds
> | like it might be what you want. The gcc docs ought to come with the gcc
> | package.
> | 
> 
> Don't forget the libc6-doc Debian package.  It contains the info files
> for the libc library, 'info libc'.

Ripper... they had what I want.. thanks :)


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RE: Nuking damned scrambled consoles.

[Hank Fay]

Well nothing seems to get rid of the little critters except shutdown.  I
had to switch to another VC this time, because something unknown was going
on in the first one.  It seems to be getting stuck in a different video
mode.

Hank

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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Nuking damned scrambled consoles.


On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 10:47:58PM -0400, Hank Fay wrote:
> Chris,
>
>   well, it helped jumble up the funny critters.   The only thing that
> works so far is shutdown
>
> Hank
>
>
> Using  VFP: MS's OOP Production Tool
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/fayhj
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ronn Pimentel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 10:12 AM
> To: Christopher Barry; debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Nuking damned scrambled consoles.
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 12:23:22PM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Every now and then I do a little goof-up that scrambles a virtual
> > console and I'm sure we all do sometimes but lately I've been doing a
> > little programming and if I accidentally gib a string argument then it
> > corrupts the console every single time so I quickly run out of all 6
> > consoles and am forced to reboot.
> >
>
> The way that I get ride of a scrambled console.
> 1.  Try typing "reset"
> 2.  Try typing "clear"
> 3.  Try running "top" This always seems to work.  don't know why but it
> does.
>
Try vo

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Re: Lilo, Dos, and an interesting attempt

[Tom Pfeifer]

DOS/Windows will not boot from other than the master drive if there are
any visible DOS primaries on any preceding drives. In other words, it
has to boot from what it interprets to be the C drive.

If you have any DOS primaries on the master drive, temporarily hiding
it/them will usually allow you to boot DOS from a another disk.

If you don't have a convenient way to hide DOS partitions, try this
freeware program, which is also a nice partitioning tool:

http://www.intercom.com/~ranish/part/

Tom

Robert Rati wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to setup my computer so that I can boot to Win95, Linux, and
> Dos (basically for dosemu).  I have the dos partition on a SparQ disk
> setup as master on the secondary controller.  When I disconnect my drive
> on the primary controller, I can boot to my SparQ just fine.  I setup Lilo
> to point to /dev/hdc (which is my SparQ in linux) and installed it.  Upon
> trying different variations to make sure mine was right, lilo installed
> itself on my drive on the primary controller.  I can boot to all
> partitions but DOS.  It tells me "Non-System disk or Disk error" when I
> try.  I'm assuming this message is coming from the boot record of my
> SparQ, but don't know why.  On the upside, dosemu gives me the same
> message when I try to use this partition, so if I fix one, I'll probably
> fix both.  Do MS OSes not allow themselves to be booted from a partition
> that is not the primary master or something?  Can anyone help me out or
> provide any help?  Thanks.
> 
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Parallel I/O

[Michael Beattie]

I am having trouble with porting a DOS prog to linux, It is used to
control a Parallel port interface card, which I bought as a kit from the
local electronics store. It works fine in DOS, but now, when I try to get
and send info to it ( inb([base]) and outb([value],[base]) ) nothing
registers. The control program that someone pointed to at:
http://www-ugrad.cs.colorado.edu/~rkirkpat/software/ppc-1.0.tgz
works quite well, but My program wont work.

Is there something I should do in my program to let the port be used
freely? ( Hex 0x378 ) I have the ioperm stuff from the ppc program.

Can anyone help? I would probably accept flames... :)


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You know, you really don't need to burn a CD....

[Christopher Barry]

Sean Peterson wrote:
> 
> I have downloaded the 2.0 images from 4 different servers now
> (from 3 different machines in case it was mine causing my
> problem...)
> 
> All 4 dl'ed copies have come in ok with one exception... the
> md5sums are _not_ what they are listed as in the md5sums
> file... they all come out as a different number but all for have
> come out with the _same_ md5sum number, it just does not
> match the one posted
> 
> Posted md5sum:
> e25491474227b42f61e4185201f4120b
> 
> All 4 copies came out with:
> aed2a0df92ba52878171fb24a911c6dd

Hi,

I have obtained 100% my Linux via ftp. It really is pointless to do a
+600MB download and then roast a perfectly good blank CD when you are
only going to use 10% of what you roast and then never use that CD
again. Unlike Redhat, you don't need to download 60MB distributed in
over 100 files and then edit the RPM availability file by hand to get a
minimal base system working. Debian doesn't seem to try to make things
impossible for you if you don't buy a CD.

And once you get all the stuff installed from the 2.0 CD you are going
to be updating half of it through ftp anyways in the near future and
you'll be grabbing Slink versions of most of your stuff as well which
isn't on that image.

My connection is a 56k analog modem. If you have ADSL, FTP makes _A LOT_
of sense for you.

If you insist on using the CD image you have right now, if it does
indeed not contain errors, then you can at least save yourself the
roasting of a perfectly good CD by using a bootable Linux floppy with
the loopback device supported in the kernel as well as the iso-9660
filesystem. The loopback device will let you mount the raw CD image on
your disk as though it were on a CD-ROM.

Good luck,
Chris

 
> Can anyone tell me what the <> is going wrong?
> Are 4 different servers (and three diffrent computers) screwing
> this up  or is it just me?
> 
> Systems:
> 
> One: PII300 with windoze98 (ok... I'm just getting into Linux
> and have yet to find someone in Edmonton Alberta CANADA
> willing to sell me a Debian 2.0 CD _CHEAP_ , they all have
> 1.31 but not 2.0 and I have ADSL and a CD-R...)
> 
> TWO: P-200 (win95a) on Cable
> 
> Three: P-166 (winNT) on ??? at school (I think  ISDN)
> 
> I am lost as to what to do (I know that I can do an FTP install
> and then make cd-packages for my friends afterwards but
> having a bootable CD to work with from the get-go makes life a
> little easier in my eyes)
> 
> Thanks in advance
> (BTW: if someone in the Edmonton region is reading this and
> you have a copy of 2.0 on CD, please PLEASE let me know :)
> 
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Re: Was the release of Debian 2.0 put on Linux Announce?

[Mario Filipe]

> makes sense...the more upstream developers, the more exposure debian gets
> lets face it...when you look around and see "Linux Software" the
> first name you see is RedHat and the first package format (not
> counting tarball) is RPM...
> And thats the kind of stuff that gives them real presense

I've been following this discussion and as such I decided to add my own
experience to it.

Last year i got my Computer Science degree. In the Univ. we used linux
(i think it was slackware). I used to say to my linux fanatic friends "linux
sucks! Windows is good!". I once had to install linux on my girlfriends
computer and i installed red hat. THe installation went ok for a windows
fanatic like me. To end the degree i had to make a large project. One of the
requesites that i was given was that i had to work with linux ("Oh no!" i
thought). During the first times i had lots and lots of hard fights with debian
and if it wasn't for this list i don't know what i would have done.

What does all this means. It means that IMHO the natural path for the
usesr is windows (until they get tyred of all the reboot's and start looking
elsewhere), then they find linux (and they with red-hat, Suse or Caldera, but
more red-hat) then they start to see the shortcomings (i for instance removed
some packages that i didn't need in my girlfriend's pc just to find out that
the whole system was lost! Didn't even  reboot)! And this is when they start
looking for sothing else and come to debian! Of course some people"die" during
the walk (windows fanatics and rh fanatics) but some survive to see the light.

See y'a

P.S : btw windows sucks. Debian is good!

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Re: KDE configuration

[Christopher Barry]

I once ran Windowmaker+GNOME as default, then I switched to KDE, but
lately KDE's been uninstalled on my machine and I'm using Windowmaker
again but this time without GNOME (which reminds me maybe it's about
time I grabbed .25 ;)  Anyways, IIRC KDE made dotfile directories for
each user's customizations in their respective home directories when I
installed it and I never encountered any permissions problems. Data that
could be shared between users was put in /usr/share/... (like
/usr/share/wallpaper/, a good idea). Also, I never had to add any export
statements or edit any config files by hand with KDE. You can do
everything from within it with a nice GUI.

When you installed KDE, did you grab the *.debs from their site? If you
didn't, but grabbed the tarball instead than this could explain your
woes. If you do grab the debs, be sure to get the *-dev packages to
because I heard some necessary run-time pixmaps are
mistakingly/non-intuitively packaged there.

Azog wrote:
> 
> Hello. I've recently switched from WindowMaker to KDE. I never run X from
> root, its always run from user azog. How can I get kde to read config files
> from ~/.kde (like it should... with $KDEDIR) instead of all the separate
> dirs like how its setup? azog has no write perms on /etc/kde, which makes it
> kinda hard to customize ;> And yes, I did 'export KDEDIR='/home/azog/.kde'
> (zsh). Any Help is appreciated.
> 
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Urgent ZED / STED !!!!

[Alfonso Balcells]

Hi

I need urgently the editor text ZED and STED with your code !!!
Someone can to say me where I can get it .

Thank
Alfonso Balcells
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Re: Burning Debian CDs with Windows/NT software

[Sean Peterson]

From:   Arifi Koseoglu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hello again,
> 
> This is the second time I am posting this message, since I > find it really 
> hard to believe that no one in this list was able > to suggest a solution. I 
> will be really thankful if someone can > help me with this question:
> 
> I downloaded the Debian CD images, and unsuccessfully 
> tried to write them to CDs using the following applications:
> 
> HP SureStore cd writer software
> Adaptec EZ CD-Writer
> 
> Although I changed the .raw extensions to .iso, the software
> listed above did not recognize them as ISO9660 CD images 
> and attempted to just copy the file to the CD, which is of 
> course useless.
> 
> The MD5 checksums of the files are correct.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Arifi Koseoglu
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ok, I think you _may_ be making a mistake with _how_ you 
are writing the iso to CD (Ok, I am assuming things here so 
don't get mad at me if you already tried this...)

To get the ISO's onto CD you have to tell the software to 
"create CD from ISO image." If you just tell it to make the cd 
and point to the data file, it will just write it as a data file on a 
(windoze system) Joliet format disk... (which is what I think 
happend to you...)

I Personally Use Adaptec EZ CD Creator but I have used EZ 
CD Pro

In Creator you have to either Double click on the ISO image 
file (assuming it shows up with the Creator icon in Windoze) 
and  it will start you right into pressing it _OR_ you have to go: 
FILE - CREATE CD FROM ISO IMAGE it then puts you at the 
dialog for starting the burn

Just look for that type of "option" in your authoring software
and it _should_ work.

I had a different problem where 4 copies of binary-i386.raw
all had a different md5sum than what's posted... (ALL 4 had 
the _same_ md5sum though)

Hope that helps...


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Re: Vfat & Long file names

[jdassen]

On Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 03:31:37AM -0500, Cristov Russell wrote:
> I have edited /etc/fstab and mounted my Win95 partitions as vfat. 
> When I boot into Linux I get a message saying:
> 
> Unable to load NLS charset cp437...
> Unable to load NLS charset ISO8859...
> 
> I can view files in these partitions so I know that the partitions are
> mounted but I'm unsure what the error means.

With recent kernel versions, proper VFAT support requires that you have the
right National Language Support code/modules available; they allow Linux to
properly deal with filenames containing non-ascii characters. (By e.g.
translating from DOS codepage 850 to ISO 8859-1 ("latin 1")).

> My other question is about long file names.  How does Linux handle long
> file names?  When I try to view a file with spaces (i.e. My Resume.txt)
> Linux seems to treat these as seperate files.  How do I correctly specify
> a valid long file name?

Put quotes around it, or use backslashes to quote, e.g.:
cat '/win/File name with spaces in it'
vim /win/My\ Documents/foo

HTH,
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Re: Debian 2.0 Problems in Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA

[Sean Peterson]

From:   Michael Tempsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On 13 Aug , Sean Peterson wrote:
> > I have downloaded the 2.0 images from 4 different servers now 
> > (from 3 different machines in case it was mine causing my 
> > problem...)
Blah blah blah

> > Can anyone tell me what the <> is going wrong? 
> > Are 4 different servers (and three diffrent computers) screwing 
> > this up  or is it just me?
> 
> Could it be that your FTP-program defaults to text-mode and you didn't
> explicitly state that you wanted binary mode?
> 

Nope... thanks fer the thought though... 

I have used CuteFTP 2.0 and FTPVoyager6.0.02 and WSFTP 
(not sure of the ver) and they all a) autodetect and set mode 
and b) I have cuteftp set to default to Binary unless told 
otherwise...

256MB RAM systems can need 1GB swap... Re: Partitioning....

[Christopher Barry]

The latest Debian install manual when addressing the need of how big you
need to make your swap partition says:

"That still leaves the question of swap space. There are as many views
on how much swap you need as there are Unix administrators. One rule of
thumb which works well is to use as much swap as you have RAM, although
there probably isn't much point in going over 64MB of swap for most
users. If you start using that much swap, you should get more RAM. Of
course, there are exceptions. If you are trying to solve 1
simultaneous equations on a machine with 256MB of RAM you may need a
gigabyte (or more) of swap. If your swap requirements are this high,
however, you should probably try to spread the swap across different
disks."

So I suppose the "For workstations the more RAM you have, the less
you'll need SWAP" isn't true for 100% of workstations, but I'll be
damned if my 64MB Pentium-MMX has ever swapped much even with Netscape
mail and bunch of browsers open and a kernel compile running in the
background.

Anyone care to explain why huge swap spaces should be spread across
multiple disks? I can understand the need for multiple partitions, as
swap partitions bigger than 128MB IIRC won't be able to use more than
128MB of it, but why should the multiple partitions be spread across
multiple disks? Does doing this automatically make them RAID like so
that writes and reads for the swap space are distributed so that each
additional disk you distribute swap across increases your overall swap
speed as is true with some RAID levels?

If this is true, then in the name of the eaking out every last bit of
swap performance that I'll never use I may just hook up an old unused
2GB SCSI disk I have (well, unused until I have enough other 'unused'
parts to build a new computer to use it) and distribute my swap across
it and my current disk (and mind as well make a few extra ext2
partitions on it while it's sitting on the SCSI chain so it sees more
use). Certainly couldn't hurt, but might give me a 1% performance boost
.0001% of the time I'm using my computer. :)

Steve Lamb wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:31:14 -0400 (EDT), Will Lowe wrote:
> 
> >Well,  give yourself at least twice as much swap space as physical memory
> >(for 64 megs of ram,  go for 128 megs of swap).  Swap should be a seperate
> >partition.
> 
> Actually, this is antiquated advice to be handing out.  On my Debian
> system this is what free turns up:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/morpheus}free
>  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
> Mem: 63332  61784   1548  27160  32000  16208
> -/+ buffers/cache:  13576  49756
> Swap:14328 16  14312
> 
> 14Mb of SWAP and 63Mb of RAM.  For workstations the more RAM you have,
> the less you'll need SWAP.  The only time this machine has touched swap was
> because of the Netscape memory leak.  So why waste the HD space for something
> that is never used?
> 
> Also, the 2x RAM rule of thumb is based on, IIRC, BSD systems which map
> RAM into the swap space so to get any swap you had to make the swap partition
> as large as RAM and then some.
> 
> So, for a workstation, the lower the RAM I'd say the larger the swap.
> Something like:
> RAM/SWAP
>   4/32
>   8/32
>  16/24
>  32/16
>  64/16
> 
> Servers, the rule of thumb is, what do you plan to run on the machine and
> make sure your RAM/SWAP covers it.
> 
> --
>  Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my
> http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus| employer's.  They hired me for my
>  ICQ: 5107343  | skills and labor, not my opinions!
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Debian 2.0 Problems in Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA

[Sean Peterson]

I have downloaded the 2.0 images from 4 different servers now 
(from 3 different machines in case it was mine causing my 
problem...)

All 4 dl'ed copies have come in ok with one exception... the 
md5sums are _not_ what they are listed as in the md5sums 
file... they all come out as a different number but all for have 
come out with the _same_ md5sum number, it just does not 
match the one posted

Posted md5sum:
e25491474227b42f61e4185201f4120b 

All 4 copies came out with:
aed2a0df92ba52878171fb24a911c6dd 

Can anyone tell me what the <> is going wrong? 
Are 4 different servers (and three diffrent computers) screwing 
this up  or is it just me?

Systems:

One: PII300 with windoze98 (ok... I'm just getting into Linux 
and have yet to find someone in Edmonton Alberta CANADA 
willing to sell me a Debian 2.0 CD _CHEAP_ , they all have 
1.31 but not 2.0 and I have ADSL and a CD-R...)

TWO: P-200 (win95a) on Cable

Three: P-166 (winNT) on ??? at school (I think  ISDN)

I am lost as to what to do (I know that I can do an FTP install 
and then make cd-packages for my friends afterwards but 
having a bootable CD to work with from the get-go makes life a 
little easier in my eyes)

Thanks in advance
(BTW: if someone in the Edmonton region is reading this and 
you have a copy of 2.0 on CD, please PLEASE let me know :)


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Re: New User

[Robert J. Alexander]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> On 13-Aug-98 Stanley Ish Dunn wrote:
> > Im trying to add a linux workstation to an NT network. I have a madge
> > nic tok0 and the base install is not seeing it.  any suggestions?

If it's a PCI token ring you are pretty out of luck AFAIK 8-<
-- 
Robert J. Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
AIX Certified System Administrator - Debian Linux addict - Win.\* victim
Via Sciangai, 53 - 00144 Rome, Italy

Re: Why Debian default kernel is bzImage ?

[Robert J. Alexander]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> hi-
> 
>   did you get any responses to your question?
> 
> 
> yup, me too.
> 
> 
> i do something similar -- though i put:
> 
> kimage := zImage
> 
> in /etc/kernel-pkg.conf (though i have to remember to do this for each
> installation).
>

Thank you sen. Yours is the only answer I got ... good to know I am not
alone in this Universe 8->

Good hint for the kimage := zImage 

Bye Bob
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AIX Certified System Administrator - Debian Linux addict - Win.\* victim
Via Sciangai, 53 - 00144 Rome, Italy

Re: gunzip - invalid compressed data?

[Robert J. Alexander]

Rich Hartman wrote:
> 
> ...HOWEVER, when I type in "gunzip linuxgui8.tar.gz", I get the
> message:
> 
>gunzip: linuxgui8.tar.gz: invalid compressed data -- format
>violated

Did you download BINARY ???

> On a related note, IF I do get it working (with all of your help, of
> course) - where should I place the "wordperfect" directory? Is there
> some type of UNIX standard for where this type of directory should go?
> 

It's only a matter of taste ... my reccomendation would be placing all
"non packages" under a /usr/local tree (/usr/local/bin, /usr/local/lib,
/usr/local/man etc.) and having the right pointers in your user's PATH
variable.

> Also, IF I get it to work, should I run the Runme file in X?
> 

If WordPerfect supports X yes if not you will not need this.

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AIX Certified System Administrator - Debian Linux addict - Win.\* victim
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Vfat & Long file names

[Cristov Russell]

I have edited /etc/fstab and mounted my Win95 partitions as vfat. 
When I boot into Linux I get a message saying:

Unable to load NLS charset cp437...
Unable to load NLS charset ISO8859...

I can view files in these partitions so I know that the partitions are
mounted but I'm unsure what the error means.

My other question is about long file names.  How does Linux handle
long file names?  When I try to view a file with spaces (i.e. My
Resume.txt) Linux seems to treat these as seperate files.  How do I
correctly specify a valid long file name?

TIA

Cristov Russell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Almost there. . .HELP

[Midgley John]

John

You've probably had loads of people reply to this, but better two than
none. If you
have access to a win95 machine that works on the net (ie can 'ping
www.digital.com'
and can therefore resolve names) try Start>Run>winipcfg. Click the
'Advanced' button
and it'll tell you the address of your net's DNS. In WfWG and NT the
equivalent is
ipconfig /all. Failing that, nslookup will tell you.

You might also need to know the default gateway that gets you out to the
Internet
(but you say you can already ping addresses? Maybe just in the internal
network?).
The winipcfg/ipconfig thing tells you the default gateway, too.

Now, I'm just getting started on Linux, but I think you need the address
of the DNS in
/etc/resolv.conf. There's a specific file format, but I don't know it
off-hand. The default
gateway goes somewhere too. There's a place for everything! I got this
working on a
Sun Solaris machine the other day - that OS seemed to want a
/etc/gateways file,
but it didn't actually work until I did a 'route add default a.b.c.d 1'
command. I'm a bit
hazy as to why it should need a gateway and a route (and also whether
the route
persists over a reboot), but perhaps someone will set us both straight?

Regards

John Midgley

>-Original Message-
>From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent:  12 August 1998 21:06
>To:Midgley John
>Cc:The recipient's address is unknown.
>Subject:   Almost there. . .HELP
>
>I have been trying to set-up a PC here at work without connecting to the
>NET( Boss won't let me :< ). After trying to copy the files from a Windows
>PC via a null-modem cable, I found I didn't have enough room on the hard
>drive for ALL the debian packages. I've decided to 'borrow' an IP address
>from another PC and can now ping IP addresses from the net, but I can't get
>access to a DSN because I'm not supposed to be connected to the net. Could
>someone tell me how I can connect to one of the debian mirror sites without
>using a DSN? I'm not very NET literate, I just know how to 'ping' and use
>the '?' command in ftp. If I could get connected via an IP address and run
>dselect, I could get my system up and running and dis-connect it during a
>night-shift when no-one can complain. I have been trying to get this system
>running for much longer that I care to think about, but work won't budge on
>letting me connect to the net, so I think this is the only way around them.
>Thanks very much for you help. Despite my current inability to get debian
>running on my system, I still recommend it to anyone who asks my opinion of
>Operating Systems, and some who don't ask : )
>
>Cheers,
>
> John Gay
>
>
>
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Re: moving partition boundries???

[Christopher Barry]

I used to have Partition Magic 3.0x installed back in the days when I
was using a 2GB disk and it was definately one of my favorite programs.
There was a posting on Slashdot awhile back that Partition Magic 4.0,
when released, will fully support Linux partitions with ext2 formating,
and IIRC this part would be available for free download. Definately a
good thing

I remember 3.0x would at least recognise ext2 partitions but you
couldn't move, resize, play with cluster sizes (don't know why you'd
want to do this with ext2 anyways though), etc... none of the cool
things PM lets you do with fat/vfat/fat32/hpfs/ntfs partitions. Another
cool thing about PM is that you don't need to manually defrag a
partition before resizing it. Quite an impressive piece of software
Powerquest managed to pull off

Of course, now that I have my 9.1GB disk I don't really need it anymore
since at any given time it seems I have at least 2GB of unpartitioned
space and I keep my disk _very_ split so if I want to move ext2
partitions around I can use the 2GB+ for temporary space to store the
files from an Ext partition while preparing where the files are to go.

The ability to change the boundaries of the extended partition sure is
something I miss though when I had PM 3.0x. This operation never took
more than a fraction of a second (unlike, say, resizing a partition and
changing the cluster size at the same time, which would take _FOREVER_,
understandably). Since the extended partition resize only takes a
fraction of a second and the extended partition itself has no formatting
of any kind to complicate matters then I suppose that fundamentally all
that defines an extended partition may just be a few bytes of data in
the MBR to set boundaries, so if that is true then AFAIK it couldn't be
modifying more than 512 bytes of data, which leads one to wonder if a
free extended partition resizer could be developed without taking too
much time/effort. Of course, I think partitioning software is the last
thing on the list of stuff most people would be willing to beta test


Hank Fay wrote:
> 
> I checked with PM tech, and they confirmed this. They can recognize and I
> think create; but that's it.
> 
> Hank
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ed Cogburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 11:37 AM
> To: Debian Users
> Subject: Re: moving partition boundries???
> 
> Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
> >
> > I thought I saw an option for this in fdisk along the way, but now i can't
> > find it.  Now that I've moved about 40 floppies over by hand (no network
> > card), I've found that if I set up a hibernation file in dos, the hardware
> > will automatically use it.  So I'd like to peel back the end of my
> > / partition by 20mb . . . Is there any way to do this, or am I stuck
> > with a complete reinstall if i want this?
> >
> > rick
> >
> 
> I'm afraid you are stuck.  I think somebody said the commercial app
> Partition Magic can do this, but I'll bet it can only split DOS/Win FAT
> type partitions.  There is no prog in the Linux world, that I've heard
> of, that can split an ext2 partition.
> 
> --
> Ed C.
> 
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RE: Almost there. . .HELP

[John_Gay]

I'm not sure what type of firewall we have but, I was able to re login to
the IP address and execute the commands after I wrote the last E-Mail. I
assume I would just need to run dselect, choose ftp for access mode, enter
the IP address and then just accept the defaults for everything else. Is
this correct? Or are there some settings I should be aware of. I don't
pretend to understand most of the settings dselect asks for, I just want to
make sure I can get connected, installed and dis-connected as quickly as
possible.
Thanks to everyone for putting up with my simple queries. I hope to be up
and running soon!

Cheers,

 John Gay

RE: Almost there. . .HELP

[jeff . hurst]

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On 13-Aug-98 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> John sends:
> 
> As you can see, I'm NOT very NET literate. Work uses WindowsNT and most of
> the info is restricted to Administrator access, which I don't have. I
> should be able to use the IP address you have given me though to get
> connected. Is there anything else I would need to know to make the
> connection work? I used a DOS window to ftp to the address and logged in as
> anonymous, but I can't seem to be able to use any of the ftp commands like
> dir, ls . . . I keep getting
> 
>  'Can't build data connection: Connection timed out.'
> 
> I haven't tried this from the Linux PC yet, I want to be sure I know what
> I'm doing before I connect incase someone gets suspicious.
> Thanks again for the help. This list seems to be the best I have found for
> getting help, and I've been on many lists for many things!

John, it sounds like you might be behind a SOCKS server or other type of
firewall that is limiting what you can get to.  One thing you might want to
try, is to simply load Netscape/Internet Explorer, and give it the URL
ftp:// as in some cases, a network is simply using a PROXY server to
allow normal access to the Internet which will only work through a Web Browser
(i.e. Apache Proxy Server)



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E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13-Aug-98
Time: 02:20:37

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Re: Burning Debian CDs with Windows/NT software

[Corey Popelier]

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:57:25 +0300, you scribbled:

>Hello again,
>
>This is the second time I am posting this message, since I find it
>really hard to believe that no one in this list was able to suggest a
>solution. I will be really thankful if someone can help me with this
>question:
>
>I downloaded the Debian CD images, and unsuccessfully tried to write
>them to CDs using the following applications:
>
>HP SureStore cd writer software
>Adaptec EZ CD-Writer
>
>Although I changed the .raw extensions to .iso, the software listed
>above did not recognize them as ISO9660 CD images and attempted to 
>just copy the file to the CD, which is of course useless.
>
>The MD5 checksums of the files are correct.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Arifi Koseoglu
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Arifi, we can burn them at our work (we have a Australian Debian Mirror) on a
Windows 95 box running a program called CDRWin v3.3E, on a Matshita CD-R
(SCSI) using the "Record an IS9660 Image File" Option, files as *.raw.

Works like a charm.



Cheers,
 Corey Popelier
 Technical Support Officer
 Q-Net Australia Pty Ltd

Re: Partitioning....

[Helge Hafting]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/12/98 
   at 03:26 PM, Rick Smorawski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I am about to install hamm.  I have dedicated 2.6gigs to it.  I have seen
>several FAQs and HowTo's on the subject of partitions sizes,
>unfortunately they all say something different.  What I want to know is
>what is the best way to partition the 2.6 gigs?  

Obviously this depends on how you want to use the machine!
If you plan on having lots of users, put /home in a partition of its own. 
A user using up the drive will then be unable
to steal space from more important stuff.  Determine how
many users and how much space each should have - then you
know how big /home you want. 

Many like to put /usr on a partition of its own.  It can
then be mounted read-only for normal use.  This is were
most programs goes, so make it big!

Putting /var and /tmp on a partition may be a good idea too.
Something going wrong could fill the drive with tmp-files,
but it won't fill outside this partition.

If you plan on running a big mailserver/webserver/ftp server/ database or
whatever, consider how much space that will need and the risk of full disk
(someone may upload a ton of garbage...)
 
My setup is like this:
/   30MB  (only 15 or so is used when /home /var /tmp & /usr is
elsewhere.) swap64MB  Enough for my use, I also have 32MB ram
var tmp 46MB  Seems enough for my use.
home   188MB  More than enough so far
usr500MB  enough so far, but this fill up as more packages are
installed.

I put var and tmp on the same partition.  This is done by creating a /var
partition and making a subdirectory /var/tmp
Then a link is made from /tmp to /var/tmp
This technique may be used whenever you want to keep several
directories on the same partition.

Everything in one partition will give the best utilization
of free space.  It is also most risky if you get
filesystem errors.  My recoomendation is to have at least three
partitions: root, swap, and one or more others for /home, /usr, /var and
/tmp You will then have a low risk for errors in the root partition, as
most of the action is in the other places.  The machine will boot no
matter what happens to other partitions, but it needs the root.
Swap should be in a partition of its own for performance reasons. Swap
size is determined like this: 
(largest amount of memory you'll ever want) - (amount of RAM installed)
Having a lot more swap than RAM and actually using it may not be fun.  You
will probably avoid such situations, so don't create  a swap partitions
many times your RAM size.
A swap partition is max 128MB If you need more you'll have to make
several.  You'll get better performance if multiple swap partitions are
located on different drives.

Helge Hafting
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Re: StarOffice on 2.0

[Alexey Vyskubov]

On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 09:14:19PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does Debian 2.0 install the correct libraries to
> run StarOffice 4.0 and 5.0 or do they need to
> be downloaded?

StarOffice 4.0 works fine on my Debian 2.0 box.

-- 
Alexey Vyskubov

Burning Debian CDs with Windows/NT software

[Arifi Koseoglu]

Hello again,

This is the second time I am posting this message, since I find it
really hard to believe that no one in this list was able to suggest a
solution. I will be really thankful if someone can help me with this
question:

I downloaded the Debian CD images, and unsuccessfully tried to write
them to CDs using the following applications:

HP SureStore cd writer software
Adaptec EZ CD-Writer

Although I changed the .raw extensions to .iso, the software listed
above did not recognize them as ISO9660 CD images and attempted to 
just copy the file to the CD, which is of course useless.

The MD5 checksums of the files are correct.

Thanks in advance,
Arifi Koseoglu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]--- Begin Message ---
Hello everyone,

I hope this is not a FAQ.

I downloaded the Debian CD images, and unsuccessfully tried to write
them to CDs using the following applications:

HP SureStore cd writer software
Adaptec EZ CD-Writer

Although I changed the .raw extensions to .iso, the software listed
above did not recognize them as ISO9660 CD images and attempted to 
just copy the file to the CD, which is of course useless.

The MD5 checksums of the files are correct.

I will appreciate very much if anyone here could shed some light
on the problem.

Thanks in advance,
Arifi Koseoglu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Almost there. . .HELP

[John_Gay]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 12/08/98 21:10:39

To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
cc:   John Gay/IE/3Com
Subject:  RE: Almost there. . .HELP




Hi John,

> I have been trying to set-up a PC here at work without connecting to
> the
> NET( Boss won't let me :< ). After trying to copy the files from a
> Windows
> PC via a null-modem cable, I found I didn't have enough room on the
> hard
> drive for ALL the debian packages. I've decided to 'borrow' an IP
> address
> from another PC and can now ping IP addresses from the net, but I
> can't get
> access to a DSN because I'm not supposed to be connected to the net.
>
Strange. You really mean DNS, right? Name resolution doesn't work?
All you have to do is to copy the DNS give on the Windows PC that
you disconnected to /etc/resolv.conf. Say if it's 192.168.1.1, make
that file contain a line

nameserver 192.168.1.1

This will tell your box the address of the dns server. If you have
several
servers, add more nameserver lines.

Then make sure /etc/host.conf contains the line

order bind,hosts

so that your box actually uses the DNS servers.

If your nameservers don't resolve addresses from the net, then you could
just add IP addresses and names to /etc/hosts, for example

130.207.7.21 ftp.debian.org

HTH,
Thomas


John sends:

As you can see, I'm NOT very NET literate. Work uses WindowsNT and most of
the info is restricted to Administrator access, which I don't have. I
should be able to use the IP address you have given me though to get
connected. Is there anything else I would need to know to make the
connection work? I used a DOS window to ftp to the address and logged in as
anonymous, but I can't seem to be able to use any of the ftp commands like
dir, ls . . . I keep getting

 'Can't build data connection: Connection timed out.'

I haven't tried this from the Linux PC yet, I want to be sure I know what
I'm doing before I connect incase someone gets suspicious.
Thanks again for the help. This list seems to be the best I have found for
getting help, and I've been on many lists for many things!

Cheers,

 John Gay

Re: Almost there. . .HELP

[jeff . hurst]

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On 13-Aug-98 Helge Hafting wrote:
> The nslookup command is available on most machines and
> os'es that connect to the internet.  It could be
> missing on dos/windows though.  

Just to add a bit of help, I've found that on a dos/windows machine, the
easiest way to find the IP of a host is simply to PING the host (since there is
almost ALWAYS a ping command on any network computer) and simply observe the
output, and get the IP from there.  The only disadvantage there, however, is
that you don't get the Nameserver IP used to lookup the host.  :(



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Jeff Hurst
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13-Aug-98
Time: 01:41:29

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Re: Installation Problems with Installing the base system

[jeff . hurst]

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On 13-Aug-98 Brooke Hedrick wrote:
> Yes, If I hadn't, I don't believe that my file sizes would have matched byte
> for byte either.  I have made that mistake before though!
> 
>>> I have compared the dates and files sizes of what I downloaded with what
>>> is out on the network and they match.

Try issuing the command:

tar -tzf

That should tell you if there is something wrong with the .tgz file that you
have downloaded.  As far as the idea of writing the disks on another computer,
it is along the idea that in some cases, the drive becomes minutely damaged
thus causing a problem with the direct sector by sector/track by track copy of
data to the diskettes.  However, personally I would recommend running the above
test command on the .tgz file first to find out if, perhaps, you did get a bad
copy of the file (Couldn't hurt anything to check)



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E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13-Aug-98
Time: 01:36:30

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RE: New User

[jeff . hurst]

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On 13-Aug-98 Stanley Ish Dunn wrote:
> Im trying to add a linux workstation to an NT network. I have a madge
> nic tok0 and the base install is not seeing it.  any suggestions?
> Second I thought there was a GUI in linux, but all i get is a $ prompt.
> I looked in the faq for a while but didnt see anything.  SO, here I am.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> thanks,
> sid

What you are looking for, Stanley, is the Xserver.  To make it easier, I would
recommend installing either XDM or KDM as well (I prefer KDM myself).
 

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Re: Almost there. . .HELP

[Helge Hafting]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/12/98 
   at 09:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Not using the nameservers isn't hard - you simply type IP
addresses instead of names.  Instead of www.debian.org you
type 209.81.8.242 for example.  This works with
ftp and lots of other software.  
The problem is of course knowing what IP-addresses the
various names corresponds to.  For this, use some
other machine connected to the network, and use the nslookup command:

nslookup ftp.debian.org

This command wil print out something like this:
Server:  ns.online.no
Address:  193.212.1.10

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:santanni.cc.gatech.edu
Address:  130.207.7.21
Aliases:  ftp.debian.org

Here we see that the IP address is 130.207.7.21
You could then use a command like "ftp 130.207.7.21"
(without the quotes) for connecting.

We also get the IP address of the nameserver used
(in this case 193.212.1.10) you may simply configure
your debian for using the nameserver now that you know
it and avoid the trouble of looking up addresses manually.

The nslookup command is available on most machines and
os'es that connect to the internet.  It could be
missing on dos/windows though.  

Helge Hafting
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New User

[Stanley Ish Dunn]

Im trying to add a linux workstation to an NT network. I have a madge
nic tok0 and the base install is not seeing it.  any suggestions?
Second I thought there was a GUI in linux, but all i get is a $ prompt.
I looked in the faq for a while but didnt see anything.  SO, here I am.
Any help would be appreciated.
thanks,
sid

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KDE configuration

[Azog]

Hello. I've recently switched from WindowMaker to KDE. I never run X from
root, its always run from user azog. How can I get kde to read config files
from ~/.kde (like it should... with $KDEDIR) instead of all the separate
dirs like how its setup? azog has no write perms on /etc/kde, which makes it
kinda hard to customize ;> And yes, I did 'export KDEDIR='/home/azog/.kde'
(zsh). Any Help is appreciated.  

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Re: Copying only root directory

[Nathan E Norman]

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Randy Edwards wrote:

 : Until I get to the root partition, that is.  I've been through a
 : half-dozen books reading up on cp and dd and various commands and I
 : can't come up with a way to copy only the subdirectories on my 64 meg /
 : partition to the new / partition.  I know this is an easy one; can
 : someone shed some light on me please?  Thanks in advance.

mount /dev/newrootdevice /mnt
cd /
find . -xdev | cpio -padm /mnt

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Re: VHDL design software for Linux?

[Lee Bradshaw]

On Wed, Aug 05, 1998 at 02:04:40PM -0600, Young, Ed wrote:
> 
> 
> I'll be taking a digital hardware design class soon and am wondering if
> there's any VHDL design software available for Linux. 
> 
> Open Source, free, or otherwise. 

I use verilog instead of VHDL, but these links might help. There was a free
VHDL simulator project going as well, but I can't remember where.

www.linuxeda.com 
www.jumbo.com/pages/utilities/linux/circuits/

free:
verilog mode for vim
verilog mode for emacs  www.silocon-sorcery.com

otherwise:
finsim verilog simulator www.fintronic.com   
speedsim verilog simulator   www.quicksim.com
www.veritoolsi-web.com   undertow waveform viewer
signalscan waveform viewer (maybe)   www.designacc.com   
virsim waveform viewer (maybe)   www.summit-design.com   
veriwell ??  wellspring

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Copying only root directory

[Randy Edwards]

I've got a simple question.  I'm in the process of switching from a 2.5
GB HD to a 4.3 GB drive.  I have my Linux box set up with a 64 meg /
partition, a 700 meg /usr, and separate /tmp, /home, and /var (etc.)
partitions.

Okay, so I partition my new drive with the various sized partitions that
I want.  Then I mount a partition under /mnt and do a "cp -axv /home/*
/mnt" (etc.) to copy the various "old" partitions to the "new" drive.
Everything works fine.

Until I get to the root partition, that is.  I've been through a
half-dozen books reading up on cp and dd and various commands and I
can't come up with a way to copy only the subdirectories on my 64 meg /
partition to the new / partition.  I know this is an easy one; can
someone shed some light on me please?  Thanks in advance.

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Re: nasty...

[Lindsay Allen]

On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, David Wright wrote:


> I think Bruce or some other god put together a posting which showed
> exactly what to do.

Here is that message:-


Quote.

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 13 12:09:47 1998
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 16:45 PDT
From: Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org,
"Eloy A. Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1.3.1 upgrade: getting rid of the package base 1.1.0-13 --
dselect and downgrading dosemu
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However, edit /var/lib/dpkg/status and remove the paragraph
about the "base" package, and that will effectively purge it.
Forcing dpkg to remove the package removes all of the files in /dev.
It's my error, sorry.

Bruce
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Re: Why Debian default kernel is bzImage ?

[sen_ml]

hi-

  did you get any responses to your question?

At around Wed, 12 Aug 1998 05:42:30 +0200,
 "Robert J. Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> may have mentioned:

> Every time I pick up a new Debian drop from scratch (ie use the install
> disks), I have to find the special "tecra" disks since on all portables
> I have installed Debian on, the standard disks, being bzImage do not
> boot.

i have a thinkpad for which even the tecra disks don't seem to work --
i have created a custom rescue disk (w/ a lot of help from this list)
that works.  i too would like to not have to go to this trouble.

> I also have to take care since after the base install, the standard
> kernel-image files which are usually preselected by dselect, would
> render my system unbootable again.

yup, me too.

> At the end of the base install, I must install the compiler, ther kernel
> sources and run a make-kpkg --zimage --revision mymachine.1 kernel_image
> and install the resulting package prior to the first reboot.

i do something similar -- though i put:

kimage := zImage

in /etc/kernel-pkg.conf (though i have to remember to do this for each
installation).

> All of this would not be necessary if Debian's kernel format was zImage.
>
> Why isn't this desirable ? In most contributions to this list, when it
> comes to kernel compiling I very often see make zimage or make-kpkg
> --zimage crop up ...


i have this vague recollection of reading that a patch was submitted
(to what i don't remember -- it might have been the kernel) to address
this problem and that it hadn't been incorporated yet.

if that is the case, then the tecra disks may be seen as a temporary
measure for a problem which may go away w/ time.


-sen

Re: starting ppp on host end

[Richard E. Hawkins Esq.]

jens wrote,

> Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
> >
> > > > OK, for the really dumb question:  how do I start ppp on the other end 
> > > > on
>  a
> > > > debian box?  it seems to be with pppd to start the daemon, but I'm 
> > > > having
> > > > trouble figuring out the man & doc pages.
> >
> > > Actually I recommend using mgetty. mgetty is capable of "auto sensing" 
> > > ppp 
> when
> > > it picks up the line so you don't even have to log in and start ppp, your
> > > script simply waits for connect and then you authenticate using PAP or 
> > > CHAP
> .
> >
> > so I merely need to install mgetty on the remote host, and it will
> > replace getty?
> >
> > > If
> > > you like you can have pppd use the regular user/password database to
> > > authenticate you. Having installed mgetty and made the necessary changes 
> > > to
> > > /etc/inittab you can put this line in /etc/mgetty/login.config (my email 
> > > cl
> ient
> > > might wrap the line but it's supposed to be a single line):
> > >
> > > /AutoPPP/ - -   /usr/sbin/pppd proxyarp auth -chap +pap login 
> > > modem
> > > crtscts 192.168.1.1:192.168.1.127
> >
> > I've tryied a PAP script, but I can't see a difference between it's end and 
> > t
> e plain chat script.  So let's see if I've got this straight:
> >
> > 1)  install mgetty on the remote host
> > 2) put the Autoppp line above in, but switch "local" for  "modem crtscts"
> >as this is coming in over ethernet by the time it gets to the remote
> >host.  And switch to IP numbers to the static addresses for my local
> >machine and the remote (i have a secon IP on the same subnet to use\
> >for the local machine).
> > 3) use pppconfig to get an initial PAP chatscript.
> > 4) add a few lines aftr connect to handle the network logon and machine
> >selection, stoppping right before the remote system would offer a login
> > prompt.
> 
> Ooops. Sorry, I forgot that you're not dialing into a modem. No, this won't 
> wor
> k because mgetty only works on modems. Hmmm. If you have a
> script on the remote end which just runs pppd you should be able to just run 
> th
> is. Is that what you had working before? You were using pon?
> Why?

months ago, I was using pon to go straight to an ISP.  Now i need to go
throught the university modem pool, login to that netwrok, issue a command 
to go 8 bit clean, then another to telnet to the ppp "host", at which time
I can initiate ppp.  Howe ef, this time I control the machines at both
ends; I just need to get them talking.

hmm, it must be time to o to bed--i'm trying to figure out if ppp stands
for "particularly painful protocol" :)


> 
> > 5) try pon again.
> >
> > > > I've figured out to insert
> > > > the ppp & shlc modules on the host, but I'm not clear on what else to 
> > > > do.
> >
> > > You shouldn't need to insert these modules if you have modules auto 
> > > loaded.
> >
> > that's my impression too, but my modules don't seem to autoload:

> Weird. Ok.

yeah, i've just learned to live with it.  It's not a big enough problem
to spend a day on.

rick

Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)

[servis]

*- Havoc Pennington wrote about "Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)"
| 
| On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
| > 
| > Perfect, but I have not got the appropriate package installed, and I cant
| > seem to find it.. call me stupid, blind whatever... where can the C
| > manpages / info pages be found. When I used DO$ to program, DJGPP had info
| > pages on all sorts of things.. surely there is an equivalent? I just cant
| > find the package :)
| > 
| 
| Well, the 'strcpy' man page is in the manpages-dev package, that sounds
| like it might be what you want. The gcc docs ought to come with the gcc
| package.
| 

Don't forget the libc6-doc Debian package.  It contains the info files
for the libc library, 'info libc'.

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Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)

[Havoc Pennington]

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
> 
> Perfect, but I have not got the appropriate package installed, and I cant
> seem to find it.. call me stupid, blind whatever... where can the C
> manpages / info pages be found. When I used DO$ to program, DJGPP had info
> pages on all sorts of things.. surely there is an equivalent? I just cant
> find the package :)
> 

Well, the 'strcpy' man page is in the manpages-dev package, that sounds
like it might be what you want. The gcc docs ought to come with the gcc
package.

Havoc Pennington  http://pobox.com/~hp

Re: ipmasq, winnt and isp homepage?

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 06:45:43PM -0700, tony mollica wrote:
> A debian 1.3.1 box is successfully ipmasqing for a small
> home network.  The win95 machines work nicely but an nt4
> computer will display any url except the isp's home page.
> The message is 'not able to connect to the server..' .
> 
> The default gateway looks ok.  I can ping the isp's address 
> by name or number.  Routing table on the nt machine looks good.
> ie4.01 is being used.

Do your Win95 machines use a proxy which your NT machine is not configured
to use? Some ISPs block the HTTP port to enforce proxy usage (mine does,
because we pay through the nose for bandwidth here in Australia).


Hamish
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Re: Silly Question... VERY simple :)

[Michael Beattie]

On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Liran Zvibel wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Where is the documentation for C ? i.e. language help?
> > 
> > I have a hard time remembering syntax and stuff.. :)
> > 
> >Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> If you know the name of the function just type 
> man function

Perfect, but I have not got the appropriate package installed, and I cant
seem to find it.. call me stupid, blind whatever... where can the C
manpages / info pages be found. When I used DO$ to program, DJGPP had info
pages on all sorts of things.. surely there is an equivalent? I just cant
find the package :)



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Re: Installation Problems with Installing the base system

[Brooke Hedrick]

-Original Message-
From: Richard E. Hawkins Esq. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Hedrick, Brooke - 43 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' 
Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: Installation Problems with Installing the base system


>
>> 4.  Everything went fine untill installing the base system (I skipped
>> network config. as I will be using ppp)
>
>did you remember to tell your ftp client "binary"?  this will happen
>if you do an ASCII download, which some clients default to.
>


Yes, If I hadn't, I don't believe that my file sizes would have matched byte
for byte either.  I have made that mistake before though!

>> I get an error that I cannot read because dinstall is covering it up.  I
>> think it says something about invalid archive format.
>
>> I even created floppies and tried, but had a checksum error on the 4th
>> disk 3 times with different disks.
>
>Try writing it on a different machine, this works sometimes.
>

Write the disks?  Any idea why there would be a problem with the base2_0.tgz
file, though?

>> I have compared the dates and files sizes of what I downloaded with what
>> is out on the network and they match.
>
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Re: Nuking damned scrambled consoles.

[Mike Schmitz]

On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 10:47:58PM -0400, Hank Fay wrote:
> Chris,
> 
>   well, it helped jumble up the funny critters.   The only thing that
> works so far is shutdown
> 
> Hank
> 
> 
> Using  VFP: MS's OOP Production Tool
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/fayhj
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ronn Pimentel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 10:12 AM
> To: Christopher Barry; debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Nuking damned scrambled consoles.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 12:23:22PM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Every now and then I do a little goof-up that scrambles a virtual
> > console and I'm sure we all do sometimes but lately I've been doing a
> > little programming and if I accidentally gib a string argument then it
> > corrupts the console every single time so I quickly run out of all 6
> > consoles and am forced to reboot.
> >
> 
> The way that I get ride of a scrambled console.
> 1.  Try typing "reset"
> 2.  Try typing "clear"
> 3.  Try running "top" This always seems to work.  don't know why but it
> does.
> 
Try vo

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Re: Clarification of Dselect & script question

[servis]

*- Cristov Russell wrote about "Clarification of Dselect & script question"
| > Subject: Dselect & script
| > 
| > Recently I read somewhere (possibly on this list) that there is a way
| > to capture what was done during dselect using something like
| > /.../script but they did not go into much detail.  Could someone
| > explain to me how to do this?
| 
[snip]
| 
| I would use man to read the documention but I can't seem to get it
| working with the base installation.  Can anyone explain exactly how to
| do this.  I'm very new to Linux and totally green with Unix.
| 
| My thanks to those who replied to the earlier message. :-)
| 

% script /tmp/dselect.txt
Script started, output file is /tmp/dselect.txt
# dselect

[run as normal]


# exit(or ctrl-d)
%

Then you can review the output in the file /tmp/dselect.txt.  Since
dselect uses screen codes to move around the screen there will be lots
of garbage but the text from the install phase will all be normal.

The man page for script is short so I have included it below. 

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SCRIPT(1)UNIX Reference Manual   SCRIPT(1)

NAME
 script - make typescript of terminal session

SYNOPSIS
 script [-a] [file]

DESCRIPTION
 Script makes a typescript of everything printed on your terminal.  It is
 useful for students who need a hardcopy record of an interactive session
 as proof of an assignment, as the typescript file can be printed out lat­
 er with lpr(1).

 If the argument file is given, script saves all dialogue in file. If no
 file name is given, the typescript is saved in the file typescript.

 Option:

 -a  Append the output to file or typescript, retaining the prior con­
 tents.

 The script ends when the forked shell exits (a control-D to exit the
 Bourne shell (sh(1)),  and exit, logout or control-d (if ignoreeof is not
 set) for the C-shell, csh(1)).

 Certain interactive commands, such as vi(1),  create garbage in the type­
 script file.  Script works best with commands that do not manipulate the
 screen, the results are meant to emulate a hardcopy terminal.

ENVIRONMENT
 The following environment variable is utilized by script:

 SHELL  If the variable SHELL exists, the shell forked by script will be
that shell. If SHELL is not set, the Bourne shell is assumed.
(Most shells set this variable automatically).

SEE ALSO
 csh(1) (for the history mechanism).

HISTORY
 The script command appeared in 3.0BSD.

BUGS
 Script places everything in the log file, including linefeeds and
 backspaces.  This is not what the naive user expects.

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Best Way to Upgrade From 1.3 to 2.00

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Hello,

I have the cdroms from linux press and I was wondering if it would be
easier to upgrade or start anew. how much downloading would i have to
do?

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RE: moving partition boundries???

[Hank Fay]

I checked with PM tech, and they confirmed this. They can recognize and I
think create; but that's it.

Hank

-Original Message-
From: Ed Cogburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 11:37 AM
To: Debian Users
Subject: Re: moving partition boundries???


Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
>
> I thought I saw an option for this in fdisk along the way, but now i can't
> find it.  Now that I've moved about 40 floppies over by hand (no network
> card), I've found that if I set up a hibernation file in dos, the hardware
> will automatically use it.  So I'd like to peel back the end of my
> / partition by 20mb . . . Is there any way to do this, or am I stuck
> with a complete reinstall if i want this?
>
> rick
>


I'm afraid you are stuck.  I think somebody said the commercial app
Partition Magic can do this, but I'll bet it can only split DOS/Win FAT
type partitions.  There is no prog in the Linux world, that I've heard
of, that can split an ext2 partition.


--
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RE: Nuking damned scrambled consoles.

[Hank Fay]

Chris,

well, it helped jumble up the funny critters.   The only thing that
works so far is shutdown

Hank


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-Original Message-
From: Ronn Pimentel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 10:12 AM
To: Christopher Barry; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Nuking damned scrambled consoles.


On Tue, Aug 11, 1998 at 12:23:22PM -0700, Christopher Barry wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Every now and then I do a little goof-up that scrambles a virtual
> console and I'm sure we all do sometimes but lately I've been doing a
> little programming and if I accidentally gib a string argument then it
> corrupts the console every single time so I quickly run out of all 6
> consoles and am forced to reboot.
>

The way that I get ride of a scrambled console.
1.  Try typing "reset"
2.  Try typing "clear"
3.  Try running "top" This always seems to work.  don't know why but it
does.

.ronn


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Clarification of Dselect & script question

[Cristov Russell]

> Subject: Dselect & script
> 
> Recently I read somewhere (possibly on this list) that there is a way
> to capture what was done during dselect using something like
> /.../script but they did not go into much detail.  Could someone
> explain to me how to do this?


I posed this question the other day but haven't gotten a response that
explains how to do this.  I found where  I read this.  It's in the
Dselect Beginners document.  Here's a qoute:


"The screen scrolls past fairly quickly on a new machine. You can
stop/start it with ^S/^Q and at the end of the run you will get a list
of any uninstalled packages. If you want to keep a
record of everything that happens use normal Unix features like tee or
script."

I would use man to read the documention but I can't seem to get it
working with the base installation.  Can anyone explain exactly how to
do this.  I'm very new to Linux and totally green with Unix.

My thanks to those who replied to the earlier message. :-)

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Re: new to networking question

[Asher Haig]

Lindsay Allen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 8/12/98 6:13 PM

>
>> You may also want to get midentd which allows you to set up ident to work 
>> through ipmasq.
>
>Where can I find that, please?  I have been try to do cuseeme through
>masquerade and this may be the missing link.
http://www.code.org/midentd/index.html


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ipmasq, winnt and isp homepage?

[tony mollica]

Hi.  Maybe there is a simple answer that I am overlooking 
for this small problem.

A debian 1.3.1 box is successfully ipmasqing for a small
home network.  The win95 machines work nicely but an nt4
computer will display any url except the isp's home page.
The message is 'not able to connect to the server..' .

The default gateway looks ok.  I can ping the isp's address 
by name or number.  Routing table on the nt machine looks good.
ie4.01 is being used.


Any suggestions?

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Re: bo -> hamm, network disappears! [SOLVED]

[Pann McCuaig]

> On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Pann McCuaig wrote:
> 
>> Yesterday I upgraded two machines from bo to hamm. The first went well,
>> and the second was fine until I rebooted, then the network disappeared.

For some reason the `-net' option had been left off the `route add' lines
in /etc/init.d/network. All better now.

Re: Windows95 programs and X-Windows

[Darryl Cording]

Only if you have an X-server for Win95.  There are several commercial ones on 
the market of
 which 'XVision' is the best one I have come across. There is also another 
commercial one that is
really good called 'Xwin' that has a free demo server for one machine per 
network. I got a copy
from the 'twocows' site - www.tucows.com (i think ??). It was still there last 
time I looked.

Hope that helps,
darryl

StarOffice on 2.0

[gbh]

Does Debian 2.0 install the correct libraries to
run StarOffice 4.0 and 5.0 or do they need to
be downloaded?

--Greg

Re: nasty...

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 07:00:10PM +0100, David Wright wrote:
> I think that answers all the points raised, except perhaps to say
> that it isn't in the spirit of unix/linux to prevent you (as root)
> from trashing the system if you really want to.

Of course. But all I did was pick purge in dselect and then run
Remove -- usually dselect won't trash your system on your behalf.
I didn't force it to remove something essential -- although apt
did.

All fixed up now, but I was a bit surprised something so obviously
bad remains. If base-files contained the devices, there would be no
problem, and why would you ever remove base-files? Hence your devices
would never be lost.

Hamish
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Re: gunzip - invalid compressed data?

[Keith Beattie]

Rich Hartman wrote:
> 
> Is this a problem with my version of gunzip? OR did I download 38MB
> worth of corrupted file?
> 

Uhm, I hesitate to even ask this, but did you specify binary mode
(typing "bin" at the ftp> prompt) when you ftp'd the file?

I'm not aware of anyway to convert a binary file accidentally
downloaded in ASCII mode, I think data is actually lost if Binary mode
is not used on a binary file.  If this is the case you will probably
need to download it again.

Let's hope I'm wrong!

Keith