Re: gtk

1998-12-06 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
El Fri, Dec 04, 1998 at 12:41:07PM +0100, Santiago Vila dijo:
 On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Angel Vicente Perez wrote:
 
  Hola a todos.
  
  He instalado gimp,y he visto que depende de gtk 1.0.6.Tambien he visto que 
  gnome depende de gtk 1.1, sin embargo en los fuentes de gimp dice que no 
  funciona con gtk 1.1.
  
  ¿Pueden coexistir las dos versiones?
 
 Deberían, y si no lo hacen, `bug' al canto.

Pues a mí se me funcionan.

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Parche WindowMaker 0.20.2 - 0.20.3

1998-12-06 Thread Juanmi Mora
Hola!!!

Alguien ha probado el parche del subject. Le funciona?


Gracias.



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  Barcelona - España

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apt-get wants to remove my packages ?

1998-12-06 Thread Eric Jacoboni
Hi,

I ran apt-get today and some strange things happen : as usual, apt-get 
update ; apt-get dist-upgrade found new packages to upgrade but, for
the first time, it removes some of my installed packages, even
sysvinit, bsdmainutils and bsdutils. Last but not least, it ended with 
removing dpkg himself ! 

Good thing to not have dpkg installed anymore... Easy to regenerate
the whole stuff ! So, with alien and some patience, i've corrected the 
trouble, but when i try apt-get again, i get the following messages : 

=-=-=-=-=
titine:/var/cache/apt/archives# apt-get dist-upgrade
Updating package status cache...done
Checking system integrity...ok
Note, a broken or group was found in gnus.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  gnus xemacs20-nomule bsdutils modutils emacsen-common xemacs20-bin bbdb
  bsdmainutils xemacs20-support sysvinit dpkg inn cron 
The following packages have been kept back
  gtop imlib-dev doc-linux-text 
3 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 13 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0b/1923k of archives. After unpacking 45.1M will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
=-=-=-=-=-

I don't understand why apt-get wants to remove these packages ?

Ok, i know 'unstable' is unstable... but this message comes from a
'frozen' update.

My dpkg version is 1.4.1, and my libc6 version is 2.0.7u-6.

Any idea ?
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RE: ISP username for diald

1998-12-06 Thread Colin Telmer
On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, Chris Stalker-Herron wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 4:56 PM
  To: Chris Stalker-Herron
  Cc: Debian User List
  Subject: Re: ISP username for diald
 
 
  Chris Stalker-Herron writes:
   When trying to connect through diald, I am seeing PAP authentication
   failed in my ppp.log.  I think it's because diald does not know what
   user to pass to pppd.
 
  No.  It is because pppd is not being called with the 'noauth' option, and
  so is demanding that the ISP authenticate to it.  Add this to
  /etc/diald/diald.options:
 
  pppd-options noauth
 
 Actually, I already have that line.  Here is the ppp.log showing it being
 used.
 
 Dec  5 13:19:37 piglet diald[295]: Running pppd: /usr/sbin/pppd -detach
 modem crtscts mtu 1500 mru 1500 netmask 255.255.255.0 noauth
 
 Don't I have to somehow pass a username and password to the ISP?  I doubt
 they would let me connect without one.

Maybe this will help - from the ppd man page. set it in /etc/ppp/peers/file

   user name
  Sets the name used  for  authenticating  the  local
  system to the peer to name.


Cheers.

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Phillips PCA20TV TV card

1998-12-06 Thread claydona
This is still kind of hypothetical at this stage as I think I need 
isapnptools installed even to get my soundcard working , but the hardware 
HOWTO had a link to PCA10TV which no longer works; the ftp site is down or
no longer existant. Does anyone know if I was able to find this package 
whether it would work on PCA20TV and whether I need some kind of plug and 
play tools?

 

Many thanks

Angus CLaydon 
.


Re: ICQ over IP Masquerading

1998-12-06 Thread Allan M. Wind
On 1998-12-05 11:43, Guoqiang Dai wrote:

  2) socks can be used by a variety of other client software as well.
 
 I don't know much about socks, but can it support things like
 realplayer, internet phone, etc? My impression is that socks is good for
 access control, but you have to set everything on the client side.
 (Well, I could be wrong on this.) On the other hand, with packet filter
 firewall you don't have to do anything on the client side, just set the
 default gateway...

Almost...

They used to have a feature to automaticly sockify an app given that
the app adhered to certain restrictions on how calls to the scoket
library was made.

If your app didn't adhere to these restrictions, you would have to
recompile the app (or make special provisions) with socks header files.


/Allan
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Re: apt-get wants to remove my packages ?

1998-12-06 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On 6 Dec 1998, Eric Jacoboni wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I ran apt-get today and some strange things happen : as usual, apt-get 
 update ; apt-get dist-upgrade found new packages to upgrade but, for
 the first time, it removes some of my installed packages, even
 sysvinit, bsdmainutils and bsdutils. Last but not least, it ended with 
 removing dpkg himself ! 

 =-=-=-=-=
 titine:/var/cache/apt/archives# apt-get dist-upgrade
 Updating package status cache...done
 Checking system integrity...ok
 Note, a broken or group was found in gnus.
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   gnus xemacs20-nomule bsdutils modutils emacsen-common xemacs20-bin bbdb
   bsdmainutils xemacs20-support sysvinit dpkg inn cron 
 The following packages have been kept back
   gtop imlib-dev doc-linux-text 
 3 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 13 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
 1 packages not fully installed or removed.
 Need to get 0b/1923k of archives. After unpacking 45.1M will be freed.
 Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
 =-=-=-=-=-
 
 I don't understand why apt-get wants to remove these packages ?

Upon carefull inspection it seems that I omitted the check for essential
packages for dist-upgrade. Woops. There is supposed to be a big warning
that looks something like:

Wakko{jgg}~/work/apt/build/bin#./apt-get -o debug::nolocking=true -o
debug::pkgproblemresolver=false dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  at anacron mutt mailx bsdutils modutils isapnptools kernel-package dpkg-perl
  dpkg-ftp alsa-modules bsdmainutils kbd sysvinit dpkg cron exim 
WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed
This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing!
  bsdutils sysvinit (due to bsdutils) dpkg (due to sysvinit) 
28 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 17 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 22.0M of archives. After unpacking 5021k will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n

The trouble is that Dale made libc conflict with the only dpkg in slink.
APT and dist-upgrade considers a new libc6 to be more important than dpkg
so sacrifices dpkg. Neat eh? No this is not a 'bug' the entire point of
dist-upgrade is to purge obsolete packages.

I might twiddle with this and see if I can tweak things to be better
behaved, but that might cause side effects for people upgrading from
rexx or bo.

This libc should have NEVER been allowed into slink when it conflicts with
dpkg.

Jason


Re: suid script

1998-12-06 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Jiri Baum wrote:

   1) kernel opens the file, finds it suid
   2) kernel executes the shell with that uid
   3) shell opens the same filename
 ...
  I think it's probably the kernel that does the open on step 3,
 
 No, it's the shell - it gets passed the filename. If it was the kernel opening
 the file, there wouldn't be any problem, just like there's no problem with
 ordinary executables.

That explains the weird behavior I was having when I tried getting a
counter example working.  I've been taking a course in OS and when I
implemented this in my kernel I had to do two opens because of the way I
was setting up my address space.  If I had implemented it right, I could
have seeked back to the original open file.  But considering I never got
to multiuser stuff, this wasn't a problem.  I guess this just adds to the
list of things that would be nice to have changed in the kernel, the unix
way seems better to me.

Thanks for the bonk with the clue stick :-)
Brandon

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latex2html image generation

1998-12-06 Thread Chris Frost
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When trying to run latex2html on a document, it complains that it can't
find the images for gs to translate. Errors such as this:
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---
Error while converting image: No such file or directory
GS
Error while converting image: No such file or directory
pstoimg: Cannot find file
/home/chris/school/archive/science/11th/labs/formation_constant/l2h4131/image001.ps:
No such file or directory
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---

If I cd to the directory containing images that it says it can't find,
they're there (and readable by gs). I'm running hamm, and when I was using
rh 5.1 it worked fine fwiw.

tia,
Chris
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Re: libstdc++.so.2.8 problem (solution)

1998-12-06 Thread Peter Berlau
On Sat, Dec 05, 1998 at 03:10:44AM +0200, Janne Lof wrote:
 
 Problem solved!
 
 I upgraded to following packages and the problem went away.
 
 libstdc++2.8_2.90.29-2.deb
 libstdc++2.9_2.91.60-1_i386.deb
 libstdc++2.9-dev_2.91.60-1_i386.deb
 
Does the 2.8_2.90 not conflict with the 2.9_2.
or can it coexistent and,
who and from where did You install the 
g++ compiler and the gcc compiler
assuming from `slink', than versions are
egcs-1.1.1 pre-release #3 ??
gcc version egcs-2.91.59
dated 19982411
ok ?
gcc 2.7.2.3 (only needed for compiling kernels ?)
ok ?
I've just done this before reading Your email on list
my /usr/lib shows
libstdc++-2-libc6.0-1-2.9.0.a
libstdc++-2-libc6.0-1-2.9.0.so
libstdc++-libc6.0-1.a.2 - libstdc++-2-libc6.0-1-2.9.0.a
libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2 - libstdc++-2-libc6.0-1-2.9.0.so
libstdc++.so.2.7.2 - libstdc++.so.2.7.2.8
libstdc++.so.2.7.2.8
libstdc++.so.2.8 - libstdc++.so.2.8.0
libstdc++.so.2.8.0
libstdc++.so.2.9
libstdc++.so.272 - libstdc++.so.2.7.2.8

Do I really need to hold the 2.8.x.x libs on hd or can 
I remove it.
I'm not sure, but I think there is no need for this, 
or need the gcc 2.7.2.3 this libs during compiling kernel ?
I've just compiled some of my own programmings and the whole
QT-1.42 libs, examples included,
all very fine executables lightly smaller than with old egcs 1.1.rb

Do You hav any tip

THANKS
excuse my english, hard stuff, I know ;)
-- 
   Peter


Re: Subjects not so comfortable (OFF TOPIC)

1998-12-06 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

 Or X-Loop, or Resent-Sender (which is what I use here).

Is it just me, or does Resent-Sender sound somewhat anti-social?


Jiri [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: why are win/dos files UPPER CASE ?

1998-12-06 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

 Windows (and dos) has no concept of case, Linux chooses to show them as
 uppercase.

This is not completely true. For Samba, it's actually DOS choosing to show
them in upper case. If you have Win95, you'll see long names in the correct
case, 8.3 names in all-caps.

That said, Samba does allow you to mangle the names. See: man smb.conf

 You will also note that if you mount a fat partition in linux all
 the files have the x bit turned on, even txt files. 

If you are mounting it directly, you can choose the case, and in fact I
believe the default is lower-case. See: man mount


HTH

Jiri [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: ssh with password

1998-12-06 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

 ssh -l login -p password host.com
 ?
 or is there a way to specify the password for this host so it doesnt ask
 you?

If you use RSA authentication, and leave the passphrase blank, it won't ask
you. You'll need to put the corresponding public key on host.com in your
~/.ssh/authorized_keys (sp?)

Works for me...

Alternatively, you could open a little window, and then somehow make it
disappear after you type in the passphrase. Check the -f option. The man page
has an example there, which might even be exactly what you are trying to do!


HTH

Jiri [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: surprise! was( USR; dialing wrong number)

1998-12-06 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello,

Eugene wrote:
 It seems that this modem is very special thing. Might be it was made at
 April 1. The matter is that during dialing from minicom it performs kind
 of maping. So 1-9, 2-8, 3-7...9-1, 0-0. The same is under Norton
 Terminal Emulation. :)))

It thinks it's in New Zealand.


HTH

Jiri [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: dselect question

1998-12-06 Thread Kent West
On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the access part I selected Harddrive and I put in the directory where I put
 the packages.gz file
 
 it said it found it but then after I selected the packages I wanted it gave me
 a ton of errors
 

When you say you put the packages.gz file this indicates that you've
gotten the file from a CD or from an FTP site, etc. The location of the
.deb packages is relative to the location of the packages.gz file, so if
you've copied/moved this file, you'll need to point dselect to where the
packages.gz file came from (or close thereby; I'm not sure of the exact
relationship).

The packages.gz file is merely a table of contents for the many .deb
packages. Pointing dselect to a packages.gz file won't do you much good
unless you can also get to the actual .deb packages.

Let's make this easier; what tools do you have? Do you have a Debian CD,
or do you have network access?

If you have network access, probably the easiest way to install is to tell
dselect to use the ftp method. It'll ask for a site to connect to;
although ftp.debian.org is pretty busy, it's the one I always choose,
simply because as a relative beginner myself I take the smooth road; also
since I'm in the US, it seems to be the closest site to me that I know of.
Then it'll ask about the path; mine is simply:
  debian
I answer the next couple of questions as stable; then main, contrib, and
non-free. Then I'd do an Update, then go into Select and mark the packages
I want to install, then Install, then Quit.

If you don't have network access but you have a CD, you do a similar sort
of thing, but you tell it to use the CD access; I've only tried this once
and, being a newbie, didn't have a whole lot of success, but I'm sure if
you have a CD and you reply to the list instead of just to me you'll get
someone's help who knows what they're doing on this issue.

If you don't have either, you're getting into territory I'm not at all
familiar with. But just as you can't install Netscape on a Win95 box if
you don't have access to the Netscape installer via network or CD, or etc,
you can't install Debian packages unless you have access to those packages
via network or CD or etc. As I said, just having the packages.gz file only
gives you the listing of available packages; it doesn't actually give you
the packages.

So let us know what kind of tools you have (network access, Debian CD,
etc), and we'll go from there.


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RE: ISP username for diald

1998-12-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, Chris Stalker-Herron wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 4:56 PM
  To: Chris Stalker-Herron
  Cc: Debian User List
  Subject: Re: ISP username for diald
 
 
  Chris Stalker-Herron writes:
   When trying to connect through diald, I am seeing PAP authentication
   failed in my ppp.log.  I think it's because diald does not know what
   user to pass to pppd.
 
  No.  It is because pppd is not being called with the 'noauth' option, and
  so is demanding that the ISP authenticate to it.  Add this to
  /etc/diald/diald.options:
 
  pppd-options noauth
 
 Actually, I already have that line.  Here is the ppp.log showing it being
 used.
 
 Dec  5 13:19:37 piglet diald[295]: Running pppd: /usr/sbin/pppd -detach
 modem crtscts mtu 1500 mru 1500 netmask 255.255.255.0 noauth
 
 Don't I have to somehow pass a username and password to the ISP?  I doubt
 they would let me connect without one.

That's correct.  Both of these should be in /etc/diald/connect, which
should have been installed as part of the diald package.  You will need to
edit this file to put your ISP's phone number plus your username, password
and and possibly some other customizations to match the connect dialog
which your ISP requires. 

Bob


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Dselect and Block Device?

1998-12-06 Thread Tom Anzalone
I have just installed Debian 2.0.2 and am trying to use the deselect
program to install packages.  I haven't found any good tutorials or info
on how to use dselect so I decided to write and see if anyone could help
me out. When I choose the method of installing during the first stage of
dselect I choose my CD-ROM as the method but it then asks for the block
device name?  I typed CD-ROM, hdc1, and numerous other names but none
work. What are they asking for her?  I am a newbie so forgive my
ignorance.

Thanks for any help,

Tom Anzalone
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: ISP username for diald

1998-12-06 Thread john
Chris writes:
 Don't I have to somehow pass a username and password to the ISP?  I doubt
 they would let me connect without one.

If you are using a scripted login the chatscript will take care of that.
If you are using PAP add 'user username' to the 'pppd-options' line.
Pppd will look up the password in pap-secrets.
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mime-support and streaming mp3

1998-12-06 Thread Colin Telmer
Previously I could click on an mp3 file in netscape and it would stream
like realaudio. For some reason unknown to me this does not work anymore.
After some investigation, I am actually curious why it worked in the first
place:) Examining the postinst script for my mp3 player, there is no
mime stuff at all. So I assume that it must have been included in the
stock mailcap/mime.types included in mime-support in an older version.
Anyway, other than setting the suid bit on the player, can someone tell me
the exactly how to add support to my mime files for mp3 files? Cheers.

--
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[no subject]

1998-12-06 Thread n0cwr
subscribe


Re: Dselect and Block Device?

1998-12-06 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Dec 05, 1998 at 09:23:26PM -0600, Tom Anzalone wrote:
 device name?  I typed CD-ROM, hdc1, and numerous other names but none

try /dev/hdc

Block devices for ide drives/cdrom's always start with /dev/hd and the
third letter corresponds to where it is installed in the drive chain. 

a = primary ide chain, master drive
b = primary ide chain, slave drive
c = secondary ide chain, master drive
d = secondary ide chain, slave drive

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Re: surprise! was( USR; dialing wrong number)

1998-12-06 Thread Carey Evans
Eugene Sevinian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It seems that this modem is very special thing. Might be it was made at
 April 1. The matter is that during dialing from minicom it performs kind
 of maping. So 1-9, 2-8, 3-7...9-1, 0-0. The same is under Norton
 Terminal Emulation. :)))

Are you using Pulse dialing?

The American standard for Pulse dial phones is different than the New
Zealand standard, at least.  (I just tried and the digits map like
your example above, i.e. ATDP1494050 dials my ISP at 9616050.)  I
thought tone dial was the same everywhere, but this may be too
optimistic.

Anyway, the simple solution would be to rewrite the phone number
you're calling according to these rules.  Maybe your Win95 setup does
this automatically - try dialing out manually from HyperTerminal.  If
this works, display the settings with ATI4 and see if they're the same 
under Linux.

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intellectually honest as to be unable to find someone to sue? - Cameron Laird


xfig and meta key

1998-12-06 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer
I have a two button mouse and in xfig I am supposed to be able to
simulate the middle button of a three button mouse by pressing the meta
key and the right mouse button at the same time.  This does not seem to
work but in emacs I can use the alt key as as meta so it does not appear
to be that my meta key is not functional at all but rather that it is
simply not functional in xfig.  Does anyone know what I can try to
correct this?  I need the meta key so I can draw lines in xfig.

Thanks

lance


Re: ISP username for diald

1998-12-06 Thread john
Bob Nielsen writes:
 That's correct.  Both of these should be in /etc/diald/connect, which
 should have been installed as part of the diald package.  You will need
 to edit this file to put your ISP's phone number plus your username,
 password and and possibly some other customizations to match the connect
 dialog which your ISP requires.

This will work if his ISP requires a scripted login.  Better, though, to
point the 'connect' option in diald.options at the the same
/etc/chatscripts/ file that you use with pon.  If you are using PAP or
CHAP, just add user username to the arguments to 'pppd-options' in
diald.options.
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Re: Dselect question again

1998-12-06 Thread David Z. Maze
WuArMy490  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
WAM then it asks me what partition I want but then it goes filesystem
WAM type and I pick msdos, but in an msdos filesystem the change all
WAM the - and the _ to ~1 and so on

Try using a vfat filesystem instead; it's just like an msdos
filesystem except that it understands the Win95 filename weirdness.

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Re: surprise! was( USR; dialing wrong number)

1998-12-06 Thread Thomas Adams
On Sat, Dec 05, 1998 at 08:19:13PM +0400, Eugene Sevinian wrote:

 April 1. The matter is that during dialing from minicom it performs kind
 of maping. So 1-9, 2-8, 3-7...9-1, 0-0. The same is under Norton
 Terminal Emulation. :)))

Are you using pulse dialling? Somewhere I read that there are countries (I 
think Scandinavian countries were mentioned) where numbers are represented 
with an amount of pulses which differ from the usual amount of pulses for a 
given number.

Check your init string, maybe it switches your modem to such a weird mode of 
operation. If it's just ATZ then I would do an ATFW and see if it works.


monolith woe / dynamic domains

1998-12-06 Thread chadi
hello everyone !
  i really am so very dissapointed w/ monoliths (*.ml.org) decision to end 
their services, specially now that i just acquired myself a static ip from my 
isp.
  does anyone here know of any other companies/organizations who provides the 
same service as monolith once did ?

cheers,
chad


RE: ISP username for diald

1998-12-06 Thread Chris Stalker-Herron
 If you are using PAP add 'user username' to the 'pppd-options' line.
 Pppd will look up the password in pap-secrets.

That worked great.  Thank you.

Chris


Graphic Libs for WindowMaker 0.20.1

1998-12-06 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer
I have WindowMaker 0.20.1.  I cannot get the theme jpeg's to come up and
I get 'unsupported image' message when I try to open a theme.  What
graghic libraries to I need to get the jpeg backgrounds to come up?

Lance


Re: why are win/dos files UPPER CASE ?

1998-12-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Dec 05, 1998 at 09:27:36AM -0500, Shaleh wrote:
 Windows (and dos) has no concept of case, Linux chooses to show them as

That's not quite correct. Windows with VFAT is case preserving but
not case sensitive. Linux will show the files as whatever they were
created as in Windows.


hamish
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Latest Debian packages at ftp://ftp.rising.com.au/pub/hamish. PGP#EFA6B9D5
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Re: gnome-core dependencies ?

1998-12-06 Thread Jim Pick

Marcus Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 
 today I tried a download of the gnome-packages (0.30-2). But I can't
 figure out how to solve the dependency problems of gnome-core. The
 dpkg packaging tool tells me that gnome-core (and so on
 libgtkxmhtml0) depends libgnome0_0.30.1-3.deb; But where can I get
 it ?

I messed up the original upload, and the replacement gnome-libs
packages were stuck in incoming for a long time.  They've just been
installed into slink, and should pop up on the mirror sites tomorrow.

Cheers,

 - Jim


Problems building kernel for sound: dmabuf.c not compiling

1998-12-06 Thread Eric House
I'm trying to build the kernel (2.0.34) with sound support.  I've
turned it on in the 'make config' step, and build happily until I get
this error message:

drivers/sound/sound.a(dev_table.o): In function `sound_install_audiodrv':
dev_table.o(.text+0x9fe): undefined reference to `DMAbuf_init'
dev_table.o(.text+0xa03): undefined reference to `audio_init'
make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1

The routines DMAbuf_init and audio_init live in the files dmabuf.c and
audio.c, respectively.  As far as I can tell, neither is being
included in the build by the config script.  They don't get compiled,
even after a 'make clean'; and in fact I can 'touch' them and they
still don't compile.  Manually compiling and 'ar'ing dmabuf.c got rid
of the first problem error message, but I can't get rid of the second.

Besides, there must be something more serious wrong.  Any ideas?

I have been trying to add sound support for at least a year now, on several
machines running bo and hamm.  All fail in the same way.

Thanks,

--Eric House


Re: matrox marvel-TV

1998-12-06 Thread Jim Pick

AJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 hi again,
 i was thinking about upgrading to a matrox marvel-tv which supports
 video in and video out... is there anyway to watch video in linux i know
 that ouput will be fine i just didnt know if it was possible to watch
 TV in linux or do video editing,
 thanx,

Check out Video4Linux:

  http://roadrunner.swansea.linux.org.uk/v4l.shtml

Not much mention of the Matrox card there though...

Cheers,

 - Jim


PPP question.

1998-12-06 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi all,
In my /var/log/ppp.log, I have a line saying that:

Dec  6 19:17:50 virge pppd[558]: Serial connection established.
Dec  6 19:17:51 virge pppd[558]: speed 112150 not supported
Dec  6 19:17:51 virge pppd[558]: Using interface ppp0


What did I do wrong??

Thanks.


Shao.


Re: PPP question.

1998-12-06 Thread Ruud de Bruin
On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Shao Zhang wrote:

 Hi all,
   In my /var/log/ppp.log, I have a line saying that:
 
   Dec  6 19:17:50 virge pppd[558]: Serial connection established.
   Dec  6 19:17:51 virge pppd[558]: speed 112150 not supported
   Dec  6 19:17:51 virge pppd[558]: Using interface ppp0
 
 
   What did I do wrong??
 

The speed should be 115200 I guess...

Regards, Ruud.



w3-el, Howto?

1998-12-06 Thread Kent West
Having become more comfortable with Linux after playing with it for a
couple of months, I thought it might be good to fire up dselect and see
what neat packages there might be. One I found interesting is w3-el.

Near as I can tell from the description, it's a graphical web browser that
doesn't require X. This is EXACTLY what I've been wanting. (My home
machine is too underpowered to run Netscape (taking 15-20 minutes just to
start up), and lynx doesn't let me see images or view frame-based pages,
etc.)

Problem is, I know nothing about emacs (apparently required for w3-el),
and I can't find any documentation for w3-el. I can start emacs(20?), and
after pressing 7 or 8 different key strokes finally figure out how to exit
emacs, but I haven't a clue as to how I run w3-el from within it (or
beside it, or below it, or above it, or behind it, or in front of it).

So two questions:

1) Is this what I've been wanting: a graphical web
browser that does not require X? Or have I misunderstood its capabilities?

2) How do I get started with it?

Thanks!

-- 
Kent West
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails.
Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC!
Life is an ongoing classroom. - Capt. James T. Kirk, Dreadnought


Re: PPP connection speeds...

1998-12-06 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
  So how do I improve the browser speeds??

  Again, I have the exactly same set up in both redhat  debian. I must be
missing something here...

  I have three ISPs, the best ISP works well in bothe RH  debian. But the
other two only works ok in redhat, not debian. I believe they are using
relatively old technologies..


  Please help...



Shao.

On 5 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Shao Zhang writes:
  At a moment, I am trying to install some network packages to speed up the
  connection. I have tried to install squid, mtr, apache and so on. I don't
  know if they can help, but redhat has got all of these installed.
 
 None of these will change the speed of your ppp connection.
 
  One other thing that I found is that It seemed that lynx's transfer rate
  is much faster than netscape. That's why I had a go on installing the
  package squid.
 
 I think you may be confusing the performance of your browser with the speed
 of your ppp connection.
 
  Also, Redhat has got a RPM called caching-nameserver. Do we have one in
  debian??
 
 Install bind and give the correct answers when you run bindconfig and you
 will get a caching-only nameserver.
 -- 
 John Hasler
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
 Dancing Horse Hill
 Elmwood, WI
 



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Re: PPP question.

1998-12-06 Thread Kent West
On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Shao Zhang wrote:

 Hi all,
   In my /var/log/ppp.log, I have a line saying that:
 
   Dec  6 19:17:50 virge pppd[558]: Serial connection established.
   Dec  6 19:17:51 virge pppd[558]: speed 112150 not supported
   Dec  6 19:17:51 virge pppd[558]: Using interface ppp0
 
 
   What did I do wrong??
 
   Thanks.
 
 
 Shao.
 
 
 
I think you need to change the speed specified in /etc/ppp/peers/provider
(or whatever you named your connection) to 115200. I think the system
chokes on non-standard speeds.

-- 
Kent West
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails.
Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC!
Life is an ongoing classroom. - Capt. James T. Kirk, Dreadnought


Re: new libc6 problem?

1998-12-06 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Sat, Dec 05, 1998 at 16:48:06 -0600, Evan Van Dyke wrote:
 Hrrm, I just ran update from w/in dselect, and the new version of libc6
 conflicts with dpkg... and hence pulls out lots of needed utils including
 dpkg...  anyone know what's up?

More aftermath of the __register_frame_info problem. Joel Klecker has done
an NMU of libc6 (which is now installed in the master archive and can be
expected to be propagated to the mirrors soon) which fixes its dependencies
to conflict with the libraries that were compiled with the broken version,
rather than the binaries broken by the problem.

I suggest postponing updating until that libc6 has hit your mirror.

Ray
-- 
UNFAIR  Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried 
to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, 
UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. 
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan  


Make xconfig

1998-12-06 Thread Alan Tam
Hi all;

How to run a ' make  xconfig ' ?

I have installed the base of Debian 2.0.34 and tcl8.0,
tcl8.0-dev, tk8.0, tk8.0-dev. When I do a  ' make xconfig ' it runs
untill finally comes
to an error ( see attached log file )
What packages do I need for the proper 'make xconfig ' to run ?

I have tried ' make config ' and ' make menuconfig ' both runs
fine.

Thanks in advance.

Alan Tam
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
make -C scripts kconfig.tk
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/scripts'
make -C /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/drivers/sound mkscript
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/drivers/sound'
Compiling Sound Driver v 3.5.5-beta1 for Linux
rm -f configure
gcc -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/include -o configure configure.c
./configure script  Config.in
cat lowlevel/Config.tmpl  Config.in
./configure fixedlocal  local.h
./configure fixeddefines  .defines
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/drivers/sound'

./tkparse  ../arch/i386/config.in   kconfig.tmp
cat header.tk  ./kconfig.tk
cat kconfig.tmp  kconfig.tk
rm -f kconfig.tmp
echo set defaults \arch/i386/defconfig\  kconfig.tk
cat tail.tk  kconfig.tk
chmod 755 kconfig.tk
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/scripts'
wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk
Application initialization failed: no display name and no $DISPLAY environment 
variable
Error in startup script: invalid command name button
while executing
button .ref
(file scripts/kconfig.tk line 26)
make: *** [xconfig] Error 1



Re: Make xconfig

1998-12-06 Thread Frank Smith
All you may need is to set an environment variable. For sh and bash,
export DISPLAY=:0.0
for csh
setenv DISPLAY :0.0

That tells it which display (screen) to open the xconfig window on. This
is assuming you already have Xwindows up and running, otherwise you can't
use xonfig.

Frank

--On Sunday, December 06, 1998, 10:26 PM +1200 Alan Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi all;
 
 How to run a ' make  xconfig ' ?
 
 I have installed the base of Debian 2.0.34 and tcl8.0,
 tcl8.0-dev, tk8.0, tk8.0-dev. When I do a  ' make xconfig ' it runs
 untill finally comes
 to an error ( see attached log file )
 What packages do I need for the proper 'make xconfig ' to run ?
 
 I have tried ' make config ' and ' make menuconfig ' both runs
 fine.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Alan Tam





Re: Oops! Sent that too soon.

1998-12-06 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
On: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 22:35:00 AST Jeff Browning writes:
 
 And another thing. Is it possible to get back into the drivers
 configuration thing that I used after installing the drivers disk?

modconf

Torsten

BTW: I just noticed that modconf speaks German to me, impressive.


Re: ssh with password

1998-12-06 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
On: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 10:52:33 -0500 AJ  writes:

 hey,
 im trying to set most of my commands to windows in windowmaker to
 make things easier and i cant get ssh to work because i cant type my
 password in the opening command.. is there a way to edit ssh so that
 u can type something like:
 
 ssh -l login -p password host.com
 ?
 or is there a way to specify the password for this host so it doesnt
 ask you?

Use ssh-keygen with an empty password[1] and follow the instruction in
ssh(1):

   Ssh  implements  the RSA authentication protocol automati-
   cally.  The user creates his/her RSA key pair  by  running
   ssh-keygen(1).   This stores the private key in .ssh/iden-
   tity and the public key in .ssh/identity.pub in the user's
   home  directory.   The  user  should  then  copy the iden-
   tity.pub to .ssh/authorized_keys in his/her home directory
   on  the  remote  machine  (the authorized_keys file corre-
   sponds to the conventional .rhosts file, and has  one  key
   per line, though the lines can be very long).  After this,
   the user can log in  without  giving  the  password.   RSA
   authentication is much more secure than rhosts authentica-
   tion.

I just tried it and it works in the way you probably want.

Torsten

Footnotes: 
[1]  The use of empty passphrases is strongly discouraged in
 ssh-agent(1).


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1998-12-06 Thread Gerd Messidat
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Re: w3-el, Howto?

1998-12-06 Thread Carey Evans
Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 1) Is this what I've been wanting: a graphical web
 browser that does not require X? Or have I misunderstood its capabilities?

Emacs is a HUGE editor, that runs either in text mode (console or
xterm) or X11 mode.  In X11 mode, W3 runs graphically.  In either
case, it tries to do frames.  (The same applies to XEmacs.)

 2) How do I get started with it?

Alt-X W 3 Enter

Better would be control-h i, and read the info documentation.

-- 
 Carey Evans  http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/

Is there anyone who actually believes that USAicans are so modest or
intellectually honest as to be unable to find someone to sue? - Cameron Laird


Re: multiple X servers?

1998-12-06 Thread Alexander N. Benner
hi

Ship's Log, Lt. Shaleh, Stardate 051298.1716:
 
 simply xinit -- :1 --bpp 16
 

I would also add a vtXX to the server args.
It then opens the Xserver on a destinkt vt terminal (replace XX with the term.
of choice ;) otherwise you may end up creating more and more vt's as one after
an other gets filled with some pieces of text.

Greetings
-- 
Alexander N. Benner  -  The Seven Promises of a Promise Keeper:  -1-

A Promise Keeper is committed to honoring Jesus Christ through worship,
prayer, and obedience to God's Word in the power of the Holy Spirit.


Re: Make xconfig

1998-12-06 Thread Alan Tam
Hi Frank;

Thanks for your quick answer. I've never installed X windows. For
now, I am going to install one.

What is the difference between window manager and X windows. Do I
have to install X windows and then window manager or window manager means X
windows ?

Thank you.
Alan Tam

Frank Smith wrote:

 All you may need is to set an environment variable. For sh and bash,
 export DISPLAY=:0.0
 for csh
 setenv DISPLAY :0.0

 That tells it which display (screen) to open the xconfig window on. This
 is assuming you already have Xwindows up and running, otherwise you can't
 use xonfig.

 Frank

 --On Sunday, December 06, 1998, 10:26 PM +1200 Alan Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Hi all;
 
  How to run a ' make  xconfig ' ?
 
  I have installed the base of Debian 2.0.34 and tcl8.0,
  tcl8.0-dev, tk8.0, tk8.0-dev. When I do a  ' make xconfig ' it runs
  untill finally comes
  to an error ( see attached log file )
  What packages do I need for the proper 'make xconfig ' to run ?
 
  I have tried ' make config ' and ' make menuconfig ' both runs
  fine.
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Alan Tam


Quake maps

1998-12-06 Thread M.C. Vernon
Dear all,
Has anyone got .bsps to work with squake? I just get 
Findfile: can't find file maps/try2.bsp

Please cc replies to me.

Thanks,

Matthew

-- 
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo

Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society
Selwyn College Computer Support
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/
http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/
http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/


Re: Quake maps

1998-12-06 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, M.C. Vernon wrote:

 Dear all,
   Has anyone got .bsps to work with squake? I just get 
 Findfile: can't find file maps/try2.bsp

They have to be in ~/.quake/id1/maps/ , as the wrapper script does not
link .bsp's, only .pak files.


   Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

   PGP Key available, reply with pgpkey as subject.
 -
  Velcro, super glue, duct tape, post-its, and Linux.
 -
Debian GNU/Linux  Ooohh You are missing out!



Re: xfig and meta key

1998-12-06 Thread Richard Lyon
You could setup the mouse so pressing the left+right buttons
simultaneously is equivalent to the the middle button. This
works OK for me in xfig.

(sigh if only there was an xfig port for windows NT)

-Original Message-
From: Lance Hoffmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sunday, 6 December 1998 15:07
Subject: xfig and meta key


I have a two button mouse and in xfig I am supposed to be able to
simulate the middle button of a three button mouse by pressing the meta
key and the right mouse button at the same time.  This does not seem to
work but in emacs I can use the alt key as as meta so it does not appear
to be that my meta key is not functional at all but rather that it is
simply not functional in xfig.  Does anyone know what I can try to
correct this?  I need the meta key so I can draw lines in xfig.



Re: Quake maps

1998-12-06 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Mon, 7 Dec 1998, Michael Beattie wrote:

 On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, M.C. Vernon wrote:
 
  Dear all,
  Has anyone got .bsps to work with squake? I just get 
  Findfile: can't find file maps/try2.bsp
 
 They have to be in ~/.quake/id1/maps/ , as the wrapper script does not
 link .bsp's, only .pak files.

This still doesn't work :( well, not running as root anyway...

would ~/maps do?

Matthew

-- 
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo

Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society
Selwyn College Computer Support
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Chamber/8841/
http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/
http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/


Re: surprise! was( USR; dialing wrong number)

1998-12-06 Thread Eugene Sevinian
On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, Thomas Adams wrote:

 On Sat, Dec 05, 1998 at 08:19:13PM +0400, Eugene Sevinian wrote:
 
  April 1. The matter is that during dialing from minicom it performs kind
  of maping. So 1-9, 2-8, 3-7...9-1, 0-0. The same is under Norton
  Terminal Emulation. :)))
 
 Are you using pulse dialling? Somewhere I read that there are countries (I 
 think Scandinavian countries were mentioned) where numbers are represented 
 with an amount of pulses which differ from the usual amount of pulses for a 
 given number.
 
 Check your init string, maybe it switches your modem to such a weird mode of 
 operation. If it's just ATZ then I would do an ATFW and see if it works.

Yes, I am using pulse dialling. It was working correct while tone
dialing from another telephone company. However, using ATFW instead
of ATZ did not fixed the problem.

Thanks to all who have helped me to understand what kind of modem is it. 

Eugene Sevinian



Re: libstdc++.so.2.8 problem (solution)

1998-12-06 Thread Janne Lof


On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, Peter Berlau wrote:

clip
 Does the 2.8_2.90 not conflict with the 2.9_2.
 or can it coexistent and,

They coexist fine.

 who and from where did You install the 
 g++ compiler and the gcc compiler
 assuming from `slink', than versions are
 egcs-1.1.1 pre-release #3 ??
 gcc version egcs-2.91.59
 dated 19982411
 ok ?

I have egcc 2.91.58-5 package from slink.

 gcc 2.7.2.3 (only needed for compiling kernels ?)
 ok ?

Correct

 I've just done this before reading Your email on list
 my /usr/lib shows

clip

I have the exactly same libraries. 

 Do I really need to hold the 2.8.x.x libs on hd or can 
 I remove it.
 I'm not sure, but I think there is no need for this, 
 or need the gcc 2.7.2.3 this libs during compiling kernel ?

There are still programs linked against 2.8.x.x library but I think you
are correct about not needing 2.7.x libs.


-- 
Janne


Re: Recommendation for PGP

1998-12-06 Thread Andre Koopal
On Wed, Dec 02, 1998 at 08:15:04AM +0100, Erik van der Meulen wrote:
 Could anyone help me in getting the right PGP. There seem to
 be two versions, 2.6.3i and 5.0i. I have not been using PGP
 for quite some time, but need it again. In the old days there
 was no 5.
 Thanks up front
 
Phil Zimmerman asks everyone to upgrade to 5.0, also users in europe.

If that isn't enough reason ...

He told it at his lecture at SANE.

Regards,

Andre


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dists/frozen/main/disks-i386/2.1.0_1998-10-31/linux

1998-12-06 Thread Ben Bucksch
Hi,

the file
dists/frozen/main/disks-i386/2.1.0_1998-10-31/linux
is missing. what should I do to install slink from Inet?

Thanx

Ben


Re: new libc6 problem?

1998-12-06 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| On Sat, Dec 05, 1998 at 16:48:06 -0600, Evan Van Dyke wrote:
|  Hrrm, I just ran update from w/in dselect, and the new version of libc6
|  conflicts with dpkg... and hence pulls out lots of needed utils including
|  dpkg...  anyone know what's up?
| 
| More aftermath of the __register_frame_info problem. Joel Klecker has done
| an NMU of libc6 (which is now installed in the master archive and can be
| expected to be propagated to the mirrors soon) which fixes its dependencies
| to conflict with the libraries that were compiled with the broken version,
| rather than the binaries broken by the problem.
| 
| I suggest postponing updating until that libc6 has hit your mirror.

Which version of libc? I mirror directly off of ftp.debian.org and
with the version there I still have the same problem. After just a
couple of invocations of apt-get upgrade I now get:

% apt-get upgrade
Sorry, but the following packages are broken - this means they have
unmet dependencies:
  libc6: Conflicts:dpkg
E: Internal Error, AllUpgrade broke stuff

How do I fix this?

Installed versions:

dpkg: 1.4.0.23.2
libc6: 2.0.7u-7

When I try to install the new version of dpkg I get:

% dpkg -i dpkg_1.4.0.31.deb
dpkg: regarding dpkg_1.4.0.31.deb containing dpkg:
 libc6 conflicts with dpkg (= 1.4.0.31)
  dpkg (version 1.4.0.31) is to be installed.
dpkg: error processing dpkg_1.4.0.31.deb (--install):
 conflicting packages - not installing dpkg
Errors were encountered while processing:
 dpkg_1.4.0.31.deb

So, I'm stuck! Any help is greatly appreciated!!

Gary


Mutt and PGP folders?

1998-12-06 Thread Erik van der Meulen
After all the praise here for the Mutt mail client, I decided to give
it a try and upgraded from elm. Now after a week I do not know if I can 
do without! Wonderful stuff.
It has so many possibilities that it makes me hungry for more. I would
really like to be able to have PGP encrypted mail folders, accessible
through Mutt. Does anyone know of a way to make Mutt open encrypted
folders and display contents and also have me add message again? This
would be fantastic!
Much less of a problem but nice to have: is there a simple way to change
ispell's default language on the fly? I usually type in Dutch, this is
my default. Now after finishing this mail I would like to run ispell
English (as you can imagine). Can this be done without exiting Mutt and
having to change links and the like?

Thank you very much fo you attention.

Regards,

--
  Erik van der Meulen [EMAIL PROTECTED]


pgpVBgN12eduP.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Upgrading from hamm to slink

1998-12-06 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
Mitch Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
| Jiri Baum wrote:
|  Hello,
|  
|   I've decided I can't wait any longer and want to perform the upgrade
|   from hamm to slink this weekend. Is there anything I need to watch out
|   for?
|  
|  __register_frame_info
|  
|  Not sure if the fix has progressed from Incoming yet, but the
|  problem breaks 
|  dselect and apt.
| 
| Don't do it yet.  The current version of libc6 conflicts with the current
| version of dpkg.  It's a bad thing.

Shoot! If I'd gotten your warning about 2 hours earlier I'd be sitting 
pretty. Unfortunately, now I'm stuck. How/when will this be fixed?

Fortunately, my system is still usable, and some of the stuff upgraded 
quite nicely so I'm not desperate, yet!

Thanks,
Gary


Re: w3-el, Howto?

1998-12-06 Thread Kent West
On 6 Dec 1998, Carey Evans wrote:

 Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  1) Is this what I've been wanting: a graphical web
  browser that does not require X? Or have I misunderstood its capabilities?
 
 Emacs is a HUGE editor, that runs either in text mode (console or
 xterm) or X11 mode.  In X11 mode, W3 runs graphically.  In either
 case, it tries to do frames.  (The same applies to XEmacs.)

In other words, No, this doesn't do what you want, Kent. Bummer.


 
  2) How do I get started with it?
 
 Alt-X W 3 Enter
 
 Better would be control-h i, and read the info documentation.
 
 

Thanks.

-- 
Kent West
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails.
Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC!
Life is an ongoing classroom. - Capt. James T. Kirk, Dreadnought


KDE problem

1998-12-06 Thread Daniel Elenius
I'm having some trouble with KDE. I installed the hamm deb packages,
and when i run startkd, I get this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ startkde
Using old audio server with talk id 259

/usr/bin/X11/startkde: krdb: command not found
kcontrol: cannot connect to X server 
kwm: cannot connect to X server 
kbgndwm: cannot connect to X server 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ krootwm: cannot connect to X server 
kwmsound: cannot connect to X server 
kpanel: cannot connect to X server 
kfm: cannot connect to X server 


At first I got a lot of messages about .so-files, but I ran ldconfig,
and that fixed that. The important thing above seems to be the bit
about krdb. find -name krdb* yields nothing. But this should be
installed somewhere, right? I use *mostly* hamm. 


resolve.conf specification

1998-12-06 Thread AJ
hey i was wondering if when u did 'pppconfig' and created a new ppp
account if u can specify what /etc/recolve.conf file u want cause i have
access to a few ISPs around here that use different primary/secondary
dns entries..
So is there  any file i can edit to specify what file i want to use?

AJ


Majordomo

1998-12-06 Thread Amanda Shuler
Does anyone here know the particulars of installing and configuring the
majordomo thing for Debian?
I downloaded and did dpkg -i majorodomo.deb but I can't really figure
out where to go from there.  There isn't really a very clear Debian
specific README and I just don't know enough about it to get anywhere.
What do I do after I've dpkg -i majordomo.deb?  How do I set it up so
that it works?  How how how?
I am sooo lost.

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Re: Make xconfig

1998-12-06 Thread AJ
either type 'startx' as root then when your in Xwindows start an xterm:
cd /usr/src/linux
make xconfig

or if your a normal user in xwindows type:
xhost + localhost  (note you must have X started to do this)
su root
cd /usr/src/linux
make xconfig

hope this helps,

AJ

Frank Smith wrote:

 All you may need is to set an environment variable. For sh and bash,
 export DISPLAY=:0.0
 for csh
 setenv DISPLAY :0.0

 That tells it which display (screen) to open the xconfig window on. This
 is assuming you already have Xwindows up and running, otherwise you can't
 use xonfig.

 Frank

 --On Sunday, December 06, 1998, 10:26 PM +1200 Alan Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Hi all;
 
  How to run a ' make  xconfig ' ?
 
  I have installed the base of Debian 2.0.34 and tcl8.0,
  tcl8.0-dev, tk8.0, tk8.0-dev. When I do a  ' make xconfig ' it runs
  untill finally comes
  to an error ( see attached log file )
  What packages do I need for the proper 'make xconfig ' to run ?
 
  I have tried ' make config ' and ' make menuconfig ' both runs
  fine.
 
  Thanks in advance.
 
  Alan Tam

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Re: resolve.conf specification

1998-12-06 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Dec 06, 1998 at 11:45:47AM -0500, AJ wrote:
 hey i was wondering if when u did 'pppconfig' and created a new ppp
 account if u can specify what /etc/recolve.conf file u want cause i have
 access to a few ISPs around here that use different primary/secondary
 dns entries..
 So is there  any file i can edit to specify what file i want to use?
 
 AJ

Since resolv.conf doesn't directly have anything to do with ppp you would
probably have to have some kind of script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d that would
check the new ip address and rotate resolv.conf's based on that. So you
would have:

/etc/resolv.conf.isp1
/etc/resolv.conf.isp2
/etc/resolv.conf

the script would check the ip and do a

`cp -f /etc/resolv.conf.isp? /etc/resolv.conf'

depending on which isp you connected to.

There may be an easier way, but this is off the top of my head.

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Re: Majordomo

1998-12-06 Thread Erik van der Meulen
On Sun, Dec 06, 1998 at 11:46:46 -0500, Amanda Shuler wrote:

 Does anyone here know the particulars of installing and configuring the
 majordomo thing for Debian?
 I downloaded and did dpkg -i majorodomo.deb but I can't really figure
 out where to go from there.  There isn't really a very clear Debian
 specific README and I just don't know enough about it to get anywhere.
 What do I do after I've dpkg -i majordomo.deb?  How do I set it up so
 that it works?  How how how?
 I am sooo lost.
 
Hi Amanda. Basically you need to set up a few aliases in your
/etc/aliases. Than create a list by placing a file in
/var/lib/majordomo/lists and edit the configuration file which
is generated. Documentation along isn't all that bad.
If you need more specific details or examples, let me know.

Good luck.

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Re: resolve.conf specification

1998-12-06 Thread john
AJ writes:
 hey i was wondering if when u did 'pppconfig' and created a new ppp
 account if u can specify what /etc/recolve.conf file u want cause i have
 access to a few ISPs around here that use different primary/secondary dns
 entries..

At present there is no simple way to use a different set of nameservers
with each ISP.

 So is there  any file i can edit to specify what file i want to use?

The nameservers are in /etc/resolv.conf.  For now the simplest solution is
just to pick one ISP and use his nameservers all the time.
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Re: sudo doesn't ask for passwd

1998-12-06 Thread Alexander N. Benner
hi

Ship's Log, Lt. D'jinnie, Stardate 051298.1329:
 
 Ok, I suspect this comment is going to brand me as permanently clueless,
 but...debian has some thing where you can authorize your users to su
 without supplying a password.

that's for example secure-su which I used to have installed
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
rc  secure-su   980403-0.3 su with more security options

however /etc/suauth looks still ok:

# /etc/suauth - secure-su control file.  See suauth(5) for full documentation.

# Uncommenting this line will only allow members of group root to su to root.
root:ALL EXCEPT GROUP sudo:DENY
root:GROUP sudo:OWNPASS

it schould still ask me for my own passwd 

 Since sudo -s seems to be rather analogous
 to that, i.e. it runs a root shell for you, could this configuration
 somehow work for both su and sudo? What happens when you try to su?

As I skipet back to normal su (suspeckting secure-su) it now asks me for the
root passwd as su is ment to be :)

But anyway, I cannot find anything weired going on 

I did a su -c 'strace sudo -s' 2sudo.trace

grep etc sudo.trace show this:

open(/etc/ld.so.preload, O_RDONLY)= 3
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 3
open(/etc/nsswitch.conf, O_RDONLY)= 3
read(3, # /etc/nsswitch.conf\n#\n# Examp..., 4096) = 406
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 3
open(/etc/passwd, O_RDONLY)   = 3
open(/etc/shadow, O_RDONLY)   = 3
open(/etc/localtime, O_RDONLY)= 3
open(/etc/resolv.conf, O_RDONLY)  = 3
open(/etc/hosts, O_RDONLY)= 3
lstat(/etc/sudoers, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0440, st_size=302, ...}) = 0
lstat(/etc/sudoers, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0440, st_size=302, ...}) = 0
open(/etc/sudoers, O_RDONLY)  = 4
open(/etc/group, O_RDONLY)= 5
open(/etc/group, O_RDONLY)= 5
open(/etc/group, O_RDONLY)= 4
open(/etc/passwd, O_RDONLY)   = 4
open(/etc/ld.so.preload, O_RDONLY)= 4
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 4
open(/etc/nsswitch.conf, O_RDONLY)= 4
read(4, # /etc/nsswitch.conf\n#\n# Examp..., 4096) = 406
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 4
open(/etc/passwd, O_RDONLY)   = 4
open(/etc/terminfo/s/screen, O_RDONLY) = 4
stat(/etc/inputrc, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=315, ...}) = 0
open(/etc/inputrc, O_RDONLY)  = 4
read(4, # /etc/inputrc - global inputrc ..., 315) = 315


nothing bad as far as I can tell.

grep var sudo.trace shows (among other) this:

lstat(../../var, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
stat(/var, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
stat(/var/run, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
stat(/var/run/sudo, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
stat(/var/run/sudo/root, 0xb3c0)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
utime(/var/run/sudo/root, NULL)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/var/run/sudo/root, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0600) = 4

timestamp does not exist and is therefor created ...
/me joins the cluless party and aplies to be president ...


Greetings

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Re: new libc6 problem?

1998-12-06 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Sun, Dec 06, 1998 at 08:27:55 -0700, Gary L. Hennigan wrote:
 J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 | More aftermath of the __register_frame_info problem. Joel Klecker has done
 | an NMU of libc6 (which is now installed in the master archive

 | I suggest postponing updating until that libc6 has hit your mirror.
 
 Which version of libc?

2.0.7u-7.1

 I mirror directly off of ftp.debian.org

There is nothing directly about ftp.debian.org. It's a mirror like any
other. (The master site is master.debian.org, which is only accessible to
developers)
 
Ray
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Re: new libc6 problem?

1998-12-06 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, George Bonser wrote:

 : On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, Evan Van Dyke wrote:
 : 
 :  dpkg...  anyone know what's up?
 : 
 : Yeah ... frozen isn't really frozen, we seem to have two unstable releases
 : at the same time (slink and potato). Wonder when we will get the
 : announcement that slink is really-REALLY frozen.

Quitchercomplainin - you've used Debian long enough to know that frozen
usually gets WORSE after it's frozen as the bugfixes begin to pour in.
It will get better, and achieve the same standards that the other stable
distributions always have.

I really wish you'd quit using non-stable packages if you're going to
cry about it all the time ...

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Problems with Intel 740 Chipset

1998-12-06 Thread JAM
hi, can anybody tell me how can i to setup my new display board?,
actually i use Debian 2.0, my display board is an AGP with chipset I740,
exactly a DFI 7410 with 8 Mb of SDRAM, but i only can run X with 16
colors and 640x480, because of  actually i am using the 2 option  VGA
16 colors with no acceleration...

Thanks.

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Re: Problems with Intel 740 Chipset

1998-12-06 Thread Evan Van Dyke
JAM wrote:
 
 hi, can anybody tell me how can i to setup my new display board?,
 actually i use Debian 2.0, my display board is an AGP with chipset I740,
 exactly a DFI 7410 with 8 Mb of SDRAM, but i only can run X with 16
 colors and 640x480, because of  actually i am using the 2 option  VGA
 16 colors with no acceleration...

I have an i740 board myself, just download redhat's binary-only Xserver
for it and you're all set.  there's a link off of the XFree86 FAQ.
Just search for 'i740' in the faq and you'll find it.

--Evan

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re: Majordomo

1998-12-06 Thread Amanda Shuler
ok..  I got is sorta woring.  I can subscribe users to majordomo.  But
when the users try to send mail to the list, it fails.
They don't get a bounce mail back, but the postmaster on the system gets
mail with the following error in it.

|- Failed addresses follow: -|
 /var/lib/majordomo/lists/computer-club ... failed: transport file: failed
to
open output file: Permission denied


How do I fix this?

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install slink from Inet

1998-12-06 Thread Ben Bucksch
Hi,

the file
dists/frozen/main/disks-i386/2.1.0_1998-10-31/linux
is missing. What should I do to install slink from Inet?

Can I also use the hamm base system with the packages of slink? And later
update to the slink base?

Thanx

Ben


Re: Make xconfig

1998-12-06 Thread David Z. Maze
AJ  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AJ or if your a normal user in xwindows type:
AJ xhost + localhost  (note you must have X started to do this)
AJ su root
AJ cd /usr/src/linux
AJ make xconfig

You shouldn't use xhost, and for exactly this reason: you meant to say 
'xhost +localhost', which would let any user on the local machine
connect to your X server (possibly questionable in and of itself).
Instead, you said 'xhost + localhost', which disables X access control 
(anybody on any machine anywhere can connect to your X server, and say 
watch the password you type when you 'su root') and incidentally lets
localhost connect if access control was enabled.

A much better way is to su to root, and then do something like

XAUTHORITY=/home/me/.Xauthority
export XAUTHORITY

(assuming root uses some Bourne-shell derivative), replacing me with 
your username.  This tells X to get access-control cookies from your
home directory, where things should already be set up properly.

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Jaz 1Gb on hamm dist

1998-12-06 Thread BOHICA
I have recently gotten v2.0 installed on my desktop, however, due to space
restrictions on my primary disk I am keeping the binaries, etc on a Jaz 1Gb
cartridges.

These cartridges were low leveled by the SYMBIOS 22801 controller prior to
being formatted by MS-DOS 6.22
MS-DOS 6.22 scandisk reported no errors or surface flaws.

Currently the Jaz device resides at /dev/sdc2, SCSI ID 6 on the A channel of
the controller.

In all version of DOS that I own (going back to PC-DOS v2.04) when I boot
with the Iomega drivers I can read the cartridges without any problems,
however, from Linux I get a mount error that reads: MSDOS filesystem not
found or too many devices mounted.

Since this is the only device I am trying to mount when this error occurs
and I have successfully mounted the CD-ROM I do not think I am out of mount
points.

I have tried the following methods:
mount -t vfat /dev/sdc2 /jaz
mount -t msdos /dev/sdc2 /jaz
mount /dev/sdc2 /jaz
mount -t nfs /dev/sdc2 /jaz

All return the same error about incorrect/unknown file system.

Can anyone enlighten me as to the correct method to mount this bugger?

- BOHICA


X 11 vs. window manager (was: Re: Make xconfig)

1998-12-06 Thread Frank Smith
   I haven't been on this list long enough to know if this has strayed too
far
off-topic (since it isn't debian-specific) to include the cc: to the list,
but
I'm sure I'll hear about it if that's the case ;-)
   X windows (or X or X11 or X11R6, all names for the same thing) is the
displayserver that creates windows on a graphical screen. You can run it by
itself,but normally don't since there is no easy way to control the windows
you create.
   A window manager is usually started after X, it puts frames and titles on
the windows, allows you to easily move or resize them, and gives pop-up
menus
for various functions.  The window manager is what gives the look and feel
to the display. Common window managers are mwm (Motif) and fvwm2. There is
also
an fvwm95 that gives the look of Microsoft Windows 95, and several others
such
as fvwm (the predecessor to fvwm2), olwm (with the old Sun OpenLook look),
and
cde/kde.
   I believe the X HOWTO goes into most of these in pretty good detail and
may help you decide which ones you might want to try out.

Frank

--On Monday, December 07, 1998, 12:15 AM +1200 Alan Tam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
 Thanks for your quick answer. I've never installed X windows. For
 now, I am going to install one.
 
 What is the difference between window manager and X windows. Do I
 have to install X windows and then window manager or window manager means
 X windows ?
 



Mouse Question

1998-12-06 Thread WuArMy490
Hey I was wondering if there was a way to get my system to auto detect my
mouse so I know who to use while installing X

Does anyone know if there is a program out there that does that

thanks


Re: install slink from Inet

1998-12-06 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Ben Bucksch wrote:

 the file
 dists/frozen/main/disks-i386/2.1.0_1998-10-31/linux
 is missing. What should I do to install slink from Inet?
 
 Can I also use the hamm base system with the packages of slink? And later
 update to the slink base?

Ben,
   I'm not quite sure what file you are looking for.  The install images
are the resc* and drv* files.  You also need the base* file accessable,
either as the full tarball on a harddrive or zip, or as the split up files
that can be written to a disk.  With that said, the resc disk is not ready
in the above directory (unless my mirror is out of date).  You can get the
latest from ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian/Incoming/ (warning, you will
have to look through a lot of files).  I have heard one report that the
drivers disks wasn't working properly (and a verification was also made).

   To answer you second question, you can install hamm and upgrade to
slink.  Doing this will end up replacing everything from the install
(except the configs and other necessary stuff).  Therefore, there is no
reason to try to update to the slink base, it's already been done.

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: Jaz 1Gb on hamm dist

1998-12-06 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, BOHICA wrote:

 In all version of DOS that I own (going back to PC-DOS v2.04) when I boot
 with the Iomega drivers I can read the cartridges without any problems,
 however, from Linux I get a mount error that reads: MSDOS filesystem not
 found or too many devices mounted.

Can you send me (and the list too) the output of dmesg and fdisk -l
with the cartridge in the drive?  This will help verify you are using the
correct device.

Brandon

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Re: Mouse Question

1998-12-06 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sun, 6 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey I was wondering if there was a way to get my system to auto detect my
 mouse so I know who to use while installing X
 
 Does anyone know if there is a program out there that does that

Install gpm and run gpmconfig.  I prefer the trial and error approach to
going through the autodetect procedure.

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: Quake maps

1998-12-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
 They have to be in ~/.quake/id1/maps/ , as the wrapper script does not
 link .bsp's, only .pak files.

This still doesn't work :( well, not running as root anyway...

would ~/maps do?

Simple suggestion - try running it under strace and see where it looks for
them...

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Re: install slink from Inet

1998-12-06 Thread Ben Bucksch
 the file
 dists/frozen/main/disks-i386/2.1.0_1998-10-31/linux
 is missing. What should I do to install slink from Inet?
 Can I also use the hamm base system with the packages of slink? And later
 update to the slink base?
I'm not quite sure what file you are looking for.  The install images
are the resc* and drv* files.  You also need the base* file accessable,
either as the full tarball on a harddrive or zip, or as the split up files
that can be written to a disk.  With that said, the resc disk is not ready
in the above directory (unless my mirror is out of date).  You can get the
latest from ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian/Incoming/ (warning, you will
have to look through a lot of files).  I have heard one report that the
drivers disks wasn't working properly (and a verification was also made).

Running the install.bat from the above dir will fail, lacking a kernel 2
load. Using the 2.0-linux-file ends up root fs not found or so after
starting Linux from install.bat.

To answer you second question, you can install hamm and upgrade to
slink.  Doing this will end up replacing everything from the install
(except the configs and other necessary stuff).  Therefore, there is no
reason to try to update to the slink base, it's already been done.

I don't know much about Linux. I thought dselect will only uograde the
(add.) progams and the kernel is made by the install-procedure at the
disks.



probs: color printing with canon bjc620

1998-12-06 Thread Peter Bartosch
hello debians

i configured my printcap to print with my canon bjc620 using the bjc600 filter

it works fine -- but only black and white (i´ve tested with SO5, Netscape, xv)

i remember some time ago it works! (this was on my server which is momentaly
down)

i´m using

ii  magicfilter 1.2-21 automatic printer filter.
ii  lpr 5.9-27 BSD lpr/lpd line printer spooling system


is there anyone who prints color with this machine??

or: is there a better (special filter) for the bjc-620??


any hint is welcome

until next mail ;)

Peter
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Re: install slink from Inet

1998-12-06 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Ben Bucksch wrote:

 I'm not quite sure what file you are looking for.  The install images
 are the resc* and drv* files.  You also need the base* file accessable,
 either as the full tarball on a harddrive or zip, or as the split up files
 that can be written to a disk.  With that said, the resc disk is not ready
 in the above directory (unless my mirror is out of date).  You can get the
 latest from ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian/Incoming/ (warning, you will
 have to look through a lot of files).  I have heard one report that the
 drivers disks wasn't working properly (and a verification was also made).
 
 Running the install.bat from the above dir will fail, lacking a kernel 2
 load. Using the 2.0-linux-file ends up root fs not found or so after
 starting Linux from install.bat.

Ok, you want to do a 0 floppy install.  I don't have a whole lot of
experience with those (my bios didn't support the bootable cd's from 2.0
and I don't use win/dos anymore).  Where did you get your install.bat
from?

 To answer you second question, you can install hamm and upgrade to
 slink.  Doing this will end up replacing everything from the install
 (except the configs and other necessary stuff).  Therefore, there is no
 reason to try to update to the slink base, it's already been done.
 
 I don't know much about Linux. I thought dselect will only uograde the
 (add.) progams and the kernel is made by the install-procedure at the
 disks.

There is no need to reinstall debian (unless you are a crazy tester like
me :-)  There also isn't much of a reason to upgrade your kernel unless
there is a feature that you need/want.  If you want the stock debian
kernel, download the kernel-image package (I think).  I tend to grab the
raw kernel tarball and compile my own so I have just what I need (and
bootup is much quicker).  Which ever way you want to go is fine, but I'd
avoid the install disks if you alreay have debian installed.

HTH,
Brandon

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Not that simple (was Re: ICQ over IP Masquerading)

1998-12-06 Thread Guoqiang Dai

 [long boring :) text removed]

You need to study a bit more into the subject to back yourself up before
laughing at other people.
 
 ICQ worked out of the box for me. I just did:
 /sbin/ipfwadm -F -a masquerade -P all -D0.0.0.0/0 -S192.168.99.0/24

Of course you can make icq connect to icq server and show yourself as
online without any additional configuration. *BUT*, when others try to
send you message, they have to send it through server, and that is about
all they can do about you. Let them try to initialize a chat with you.
Let them try to send a file to you. Let them try to initialize a
internet phone application with you. I'm quite positive they will *NOT*
work. In other words, anything that requires direct host connection will
*NOT* work. With my configuration, it will work.

The only situation where my configuration will not work is when both
machines are behind the same firewall, which could be what Hamish
pointed out early in this thread. When I did that, I found weird entries
in the masq table. I haven't tried machines behind different firewalls.

Next I'll try socks 5 when I have time.

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Re: install hamm from Inet (was: Re: install slink from Inet)

1998-12-06 Thread Ben Bucksch
Ok, you want to do a 0 floppy install.  I don't have a whole lot of

I MUST do a 0 floppy install, lacking a floppy. :-)

experience with those (my bios didn't support the bootable cd's from 2.0
and I don't use win/dos anymore).  Where did you get your install.bat
from?
Used the hamm one.
(ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/hamm/disks-i386/2.0.10_1998-07-21/in
stall.bat)

Now tried 2 install hamm, also failed. dinstall says: File Error: There is
a problem extracting the Base System from base2_0.tgz.
1. Downloaded using WinNT4.0 base2_0.tgz from
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/hamm/hamm/disks-i386/2.0.10_1998-07-21/
2. Copied to c:\ (Pri-DOS) (together with drv1440.bin, install.bat, linux,
loadlin.exe, md5sum.txt, resc1440.bin, root.bin)
3. Started DOS
4. Ran install.bat
5. Went throught dinstall
6. Selected hd as source, selected the found base2_0.tgz
7. Got the Error-Msg
8. Went 2 tty2
9. cped base2_0.tgz to /target
9a. Tried to use erm gzip, no command found.
10. Selected Mounted as source, selected the found base2_0.tgz
11. 7. Repeated
Repeated 1. - 11.

Any idea?



I have trouble with my Hd...

1998-12-06 Thread Bengt Johanson
Hi!
I had debian linux on one of my hd's, but now I have removed it because
I'm going to put linux on a smaller hd. The hd I had it on was 2.5Gb,
gonna move it to a 2Gb hd.
But now I have a problem, I have formatted the 2.5 hd to fat32 and it
shows in win98 and everything, but when I try to copy something to it,
it goes vry slow or it doesn't work at all.
I'm just wondering if someone has any clue to what this might depend on.

Sincerely,
Bengt Johanson

PS. I'm a newbie to Linux. DS.


RE: Jaz 1Gb on hamm dist

1998-12-06 Thread BOHICA
Thank You,

Here they are:

 dmesg -

1: copying script fragments into the on-board RAM ...
ncr53c875-0: command processing resumed
ncr53c875-1: command processing resumed
Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
ppa: Version 1.42
ppa: Probing port 03bc
ppa: Probing port 0378
ppa: SPP port present
ppa: ECP with a 16 byte FIFO present
ppa: PS/2 bidirectional port present
ppa: Failed Intel bug check. (Phony EPP in ECP)
ppa: Probing port 0278
ppa: SPP port present
ppa: PS/2 bidirectional port present
scsi0 : ncr53c8xx - revision 2.5f.1
scsi1 : ncr53c8xx - revision 2.5f.1
scsi : 2 hosts.
  Vendor: MICROPModel: 4345WVRev: AV10
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 8, lun 0
  Vendor: QUANTUM   Model: QM39100TD-SW  Rev: N1B0
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 10, lun 0
  Vendor: TANDBERG  Model:  TDC 4200 Rev: =07:
  Type:   Sequential-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
  Vendor: iomegaModel: jaz 1GB   Rev: H.72
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi removable disk sdc at scsi1, channel 0, id 5, lun 0
  Vendor: TOSHIBA   Model: CD-ROM XM-3801TA  Rev: 3386
  Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 6, lun 0
scsi : detected 1 SCSI cdrom 3 SCSI disks total.
ncr53c875-0-8,0: WIDE SCSI (16 bit) enabled.
ncr53c875-0-8,0: FAST-20 WIDE SCSI 40.0 MB/s (50 ns, offset 15)
SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 8890029 [4340 MB] [4.3 GB]
ncr53c875-0-10,0: WIDE SCSI (16 bit) enabled.
ncr53c875-0-10,0: FAST-20 WIDE SCSI 40.0 MB/s (50 ns, offset 16)
SCSI device sdb: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 17783249 [8683 MB] [8.7
GB]
ncr53c875-1-5,0: FAST-10 SCSI 10.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 15)
SCSI device sdc: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2091050 [1021 MB] [1.0 GB]
sdc: Write Protect is off
Partition check:
 sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
 sdb: sdb1 sdb2
 sdc: sdc1 sdc2 sdc3 sdc4
ide-floppy: hdc: I/O error, pc = 5a, key =  5, asc = 24, ascq =  0
ide-floppy: Can't get drive capabilities
hdc: 123264kB, 963/8/32 CHS, 533 kBps, 512 sector size, 720 rpm
hdc: The drive reports both 126222336 and 0 bytes as its capacity
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Adding Swap: 130748k swap-space (priority -1)
linear personality registered
Module inserted $Id: cdrom.c,v 0.8 1996/08/10 10:52:11 david Exp $
lp0 at 0x0278, (irq = 9)
PS/2 auxiliary pointing device detected -- driver installed.
Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
tty01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16450
tty02 at 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16450
tty03 at 0x02e8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
Equalizer1996: $Revision: 1.9 $ $Date: 1996/10/12 11:14:37 $ Simon Janes
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation)
PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc.
PPP line discipline registered.
Detected scsi tape st0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 4, lun 0
Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.0.0
  kernel build: 2.0.34 unknown
  options:  none
Intel PCIC probe: not found.
Disc change detected.
VFS: Disk change detected on device 08:20
SCSI device sdc: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 2091050 [1021 MB] [1.0 GB]
sdc: Write Protect is off
 sdc: sdc1 sdc2 sdc3 sdc4
VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00
VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00
VFS: Disk change detected on device 02:00
ide-floppy: hdc: I/O error, pc = 1b, key =  2, asc = 3a, ascq =  0
hdc: The drive reports both 126222336 and 0 bytes as its capacity
VFS: Wrong blocksize on device 08:20
ll_rw_block: device 08:20: only 512-char blocks implemented (1024)

--- fdisk -l 

Disk /dev/sda: 138 heads, 63 sectors, 1022 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 8694 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *11  302  1312762+   6  DOS 16-bit =32M
/dev/sda2  303  303  962  2869020   83  Linux native
/dev/sda3  963  963 1022   260820   82  Linux swap

Disk /dev/sdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1106 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb111  522  4192933+   7  OS/2 HPFS
/dev/sdb2  523  523 1106  46909807  OS/2 HPFS

Disk /dev/sdc: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 1021 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc1   ?   937318   937477  1203315272218546+  20  Unknown
Partition 1 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
 phys=(356, 97, 46) logical=(937476, 3, 15)
Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
 

Re: install hamm from Inet (was: Re: install slink from Inet)

1998-12-06 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Ben Bucksch wrote:

 Ok, you want to do a 0 floppy install.
 
 I MUST do a 0 floppy install, lacking a floppy. :-)

I start to wonder why this is done now-a-days.  They are cheap and
convienent for many things.  Although, having them may create security
problems for some.  But I'm babling :-)

 Now tried 2 install hamm, also failed. dinstall says: File Error: There is
 a problem extracting the Base System from base2_0.tgz.

I believe the utility is called star.  Try cd'ing to /target and running
star base2_0.tgz from tty2.  Maybe you can get a better error message
than File Error.  I.e. this won't fix your problem, but let us know what
the problem is.

HTH,
Brandon

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RE: Jaz 1Gb on hamm dist

1998-12-06 Thread Brandon Mitchell
I wrote:

 Can you send me (and the list too) the output of dmesg and fdisk -l
 with the cartridge in the drive?  This will help verify you are using the
 correct device.

On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, BOHICA wrote:

  dmesg -
 
   Vendor: iomegaModel: jaz 1GB   Rev: H.72
   Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
 Detected scsi removable disk sdc at scsi1, channel 0, id 5, lun 0

Ok, sdc is correct.

 --- fdisk -l 
 
 Disk /dev/sdc: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 1021 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes
 
Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sdc1   ?   937318   937477  1203315272218546+  20  Unknown
 Partition 1 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
  phys=(356, 97, 46) logical=(937476, 3, 15)
 Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
  phys=(357, 116, 40) logical=(1203314, 30, 19)
 Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary:
  phys=(357, 116, 40) should be (357, 63, 32)
 /dev/sdc2   ?   648482   649505   912677269488144   6b  Unknown
 Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
  phys=(288, 110, 57) logical=(649504, 0, 11)
 Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
  phys=(269, 101, 57) logical=(912676, 1, 10)
 Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary:
  phys=(269, 101, 57) should be (269, 63, 32)
 /dev/sdc3   ?   262490   263179   945973699181456   53  Unknown
 Partition 3 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
  phys=(345, 32, 19) logical=(263178, 26, 16)
 Partition 3 has different physical/logical endings:
  phys=(324, 77, 19) logical=(945972, 51, 15)
 Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary:
  phys=(324, 77, 19) should be (324, 63, 32)
 /dev/sdc4   *   680024   680971   68098110668+  49  Unknown
 Partition 4 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
  phys=(87, 1, 0) logical=(680970, 34, 16)
 Partition 4 has different physical/logical endings:
  phys=(335, 78, 2) logical=(680980, 61, 8)
 Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary:
  phys=(335, 78, 2) should be (335, 63, 32)
 
 -- end -

Ack, looks like the standard dos/mac formatting trick.  Try sdc4:
mount /dev/sdc4 /jaz
Or if it doesn't detect it:
mount -t vfat /dev/sdc4 /jaz
mount -t msdos /dev/sdc4 /jaz

You may also want to try sdc1 and sdc3 if 4 doesn't work.

HTH,
Brandon

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2.0.36 compile prob

1998-12-06 Thread Graham Ashton
I've just tried compiling 2.0.36 with SMP support on my brand new and
shiny debian box (hamm), but it broke halfway through.

I'm asking the question here as I think I'm missing an important system
file, and was hoping somebody would be able to tell me which .deb it's in.

make menuconfig and make dep; make clean work fine, but after a fair
degree of success with make zImage I get;

--
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/include -E -D__ELF__ -D__SMP__
-traditional trampoline.S -o trampoline.s
as86 -0 -a -o trampoline.o trampoline.s
make[1]: as86: Command not found
make[1]: *** [trampoline.o] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/arch/i386/kernel'
make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
--

It compiles cleanly without SMP support (i.e. with SMP=1 commented out in
/usr/src/linux/Makefile).

Thanks in advance.

P.S. not really sure what I'm doing with dpkg yet, as I've just switched
from using Red Hat (which may explain a few things).

--
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Fw: install hamm from Inet

1998-12-06 Thread Ben Bucksch
 I MUST do a 0 floppy install, lacking a floppy. :-)
I start to wonder why this is done now-a-days.  They are cheap and
convienent for many things.  Although, having them may create security
problems for some.  But I'm babling :-)

My IBM 8870 at the cellars has one. It's useful for many things. The best
thing is: it heats up the hole house cause of it's power consumption. But
I'm kidding :-)

 Now tried 2 install hamm, also failed. dinstall says: File Error: There
is a problem extracting the Base System from base2_0.tgz.
I believe the utility is called star.  Try cd'ing to /target and running
star base2_0.tgz from tty2.  Maybe you can get a better error message
than File Error.  I.e. this won't fix your problem, but let us know what
the problem is.
star base2_0.tgz doesn't work, star uses standard input. I'm fully used to
it, tried star  base2_0.tgz and echo base2_0.tgz | star.

Both result in Error in archive format or so.

Ben



Re: 2.0.36 compile prob

1998-12-06 Thread AJ
artlu !find as86
dpkg artlu: behold, as86 is in this package: devel/bin86 (/usr/bin/as86)
i asked that on irc.debian.org #debian go there to find backages so what u do 
is:
goto your favorite debian ftp site
then:
/dists/slink/main/binary*/devel
and get the backage: bin86,

AJ

Graham Ashton wrote:

 I've just tried compiling 2.0.36 with SMP support on my brand new and
 I'm asking the question here as I think I'm missing an important system
 file, and was hoping somebody would be able to tell me which .deb it's in.

 make menuconfig and make dep; make clean work fine, but after a fair
 degree of success with make zImage I get;

 --
 gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/include -E -D__ELF__ -D__SMP__
 -traditional trampoline.S -o trampoline.s
 as86 -0 -a -o trampoline.o trampoline.s
 make[1]: as86: Command not found
 make[1]: *** [trampoline.o] Error 127
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/arch/i386/kernel'
 make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
 --

 It compiles cleanly without SMP support (i.e. with SMP=1 commented out in
 /usr/src/linux/Makefile).

 Thanks in advance.

 P.S. not really sure what I'm doing with dpkg yet, as I've just switched
 from using Red Hat (which may explain a few things).

 --
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Re: 2.0.36 compile prob

1998-12-06 Thread Oliver Elphick
Graham Ashton wrote:
  make[1]: as86: Command not found

Install the package bin86, which contains this program.

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backpack CD on Toshiba laptop

1998-12-06 Thread Vazquez Jr, E A
Anyone willing to educate me on how to mount a parallel port CD in
Linux?

All the HOWTO's, FAQ-O-MATIC's and FAQ pages for both Debian and Linux
that I can find say things like after mounting an external CD device
through the parallel port... without ever actually telling me HOW to
mount the doggone thing.

Since this particular laptop doesn't have a built in CD and the only
PCMCIA NIC I currently have is a Xircom and thus not supported by the
installation drivers.  The CD is so that I can get access to the
LinuxPress distribution CD and install the aditional PCMCIA support sot
hat _then_ I can go online and get everything else installed.

Responses?  Flames?

- Ed


diald documents

1998-12-06 Thread wax_man
Where can I find some documentation that is specific to the Debian way
or running diald?  I've been reading the docs in the /usr/doc/diald
directory, but they don't seem to touch on how the .deb file setup the
stuff in the /etc/ dirs.

Thanks,

Chris


SQUAKE SVGALIB problems

1998-12-06 Thread Mark Panzer
Well, I tried to use xquake but my system locked up 3 times after about
two seconds of use. I then decided to try out squake however when I run
squake I recieve the error: 

svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions.

I checked the permissions on the lib files and changed them so group and
user could read and execute them, but there was no change. Suggestions?

Panz


Re: SQUAKE SVGALIB problems

1998-12-06 Thread Brandon Mitchell
As root: chmod u+s /usr/games/squake

It needs root to use svgalib, and permissions are then dropped to play
quake.

On Sun, 6 Dec 1998, Mark Panzer wrote:

 Well, I tried to use xquake but my system locked up 3 times after about
 two seconds of use. I then decided to try out squake however when I run
 squake I recieve the error: 
 
 svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions.
 
 I checked the permissions on the lib files and changed them so group and
 user could read and execute them, but there was no change. Suggestions?
 
 Panz
 
 
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