can't locate module ppp0

1999-03-13 Thread Pollywog
Whenever I reboot my machine (Debian Hamm with kernel 2.0.36) I get this:

Unusual System Events
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Mar 13 18:20:11 lilypad kernel: registered device ppp0 
Mar 13 18:20:10 lilypad modprobe: can't locate module ppp0
Mar 13 18:20:11 lilypad kernel: registered device ppp0 

We are having high winds and that rebooted my machine this morning. Everything
seems to work, but I see that error.

Is there a fix?

thanks


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Re: ssh problem on potato

1999-03-13 Thread Martin Bialasinski

 FK == Ferenc Kiraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

FK I have a fresh potato install and I cannot log in to
FK the machine from a remote host using ssh. I get an
FK error message like this:

FK Warning: Remote host failed or refused to allocate a pseudo tty.

Maybe you installed glibc2.1? Check with dpkg -l libc6.1

This is part of a message someone sent on debian-devel:

===
Glibc 2.1 has the support for new pty system. I had the same problem.
From Chages file in 2.2.x kernel:
   Optional support for Unix98 pty devices has also been added. If you
   want to use the Unix98 ptys, you should be running at least
   glibc-2.0.9x, and you must switch completely to Unix98 pty's.  The
   general procedure for configuring Unix98 pty support is:

   - Compile your kernel with CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS and CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS.
   - mknod /dev/ptmx c 5 2
 chmod 666 /dev/ptmx
 mkdir /dev/pts
   - Add to /etc/fstab:

 none/dev/ptsdevptsgid=5,mode=6200 0

 (Note:  gid=5 is applicable for RedHat systems for which group tty has
 gid 5.  Adjust according to your distribution.  Use mode=600 if you want
 mesg n to be default.)
   - Mount /dev/pts

I did this and sshd is working again.
===

Ciao,
Martin


Re: I've been cracked! (hamm, 2.0.35)

1999-03-13 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Sat, 13 Mar 1999,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:

 On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Don Erickson wrote:
 
  Somebody (through jhb60.jaring.my) wandered into my system, set up a user
  account for themselves and set up a couple of programs, eggdrop and smurf.

Also, upgrade your kernel when you reinstall - a notice was posted to this
list a couple of days ago mentionting an exploit in 2.0.35

Matthew

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Awk scripts Debian awk version

1999-03-13 Thread Wayne Topa

  I have some small scripts that keep a log file of notes.  The
searchlog feature uses awk.  Now that I have decided to move my 
operating from the Slackware box that the scripts work in to debian,
the scripts no longer work.

  Doing some research I found that the boxes have different versions
of awk/mawk.

  The slackware system:  awk -W version  GNU Awk 3.0.3  
and debiam Slink awk -W version  mawk 1.3.3 Nov 1996.

Questions.  
  Rather than load up the newer awk from the tarball at the
GNU site, are there, or will there be, an updated awk in the base
package of potato?  

  Would moving to the GNU awk affect any debian specific items?
Namely deselect, apt-get, dpkg?

  Should I just bite the bullet, bone up on awk, and fix the damm
scripts?  Yes I know, I _should_ know awk.

  Which is the newer/better/most compatiable Awk?


Thanks in advance.


Wayne

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gcc 2.8.x deb-package

1999-03-13 Thread Holger Mense
Hello...

I am searching for a debian package of gcc 2.8.x . In an old mail of this
list I found a statement, that such a package should be somewhere in
projects/experimental... but I only find a deb package for gcc 2.9.x
(gcc_2.91.63-1.1.deb) in the potato directory.

Can someone help?


 CU, Holger

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Re: gcc 2.8.x deb-package

1999-03-13 Thread Stephen Pitts
On Sat, Mar 13, 1999 at 07:16:32PM +, Holger Mense wrote:
 Hello...
 
 I am searching for a debian package of gcc 2.8.x . In an old mail of this
 list I found a statement, that such a package should be somewhere in
 projects/experimental... but I only find a deb package for gcc 2.9.x
 (gcc_2.91.63-1.1.deb) in the potato directory.
 
 Can someone help?
 
 
  CU, Holger
 
 -- 
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That gcc package is for egcs, a compiler which some believe is superior to GCC 
because
it is more actively developed. Right now, Debian uses egcs for its C++ compiler 
(i.e.
g++ filename.cc uses egcs to compile it). I believe that one of the goals of 
Debian 2.1
is to offer egcs as a c compiler as well.
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Re: Awk scripts Debian awk version

1999-03-13 Thread Stephen Pitts
On Sat, Mar 13, 1999 at 01:48:57PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:
 
   I have some small scripts that keep a log file of notes.  The
 searchlog feature uses awk.  Now that I have decided to move my 
 operating from the Slackware box that the scripts work in to debian,
 the scripts no longer work.
 
   Doing some research I found that the boxes have different versions
 of awk/mawk.
 
   The slackware system:  awk -W version  GNU Awk 3.0.3  
 and debiam Slink awk -W version  mawk 1.3.3 Nov 1996.
 
 Questions.  
   Rather than load up the newer awk from the tarball at the
 GNU site, are there, or will there be, an updated awk in the base
 package of potato?  
 
   Would moving to the GNU awk affect any debian specific items?
 Namely deselect, apt-get, dpkg?
 
   Should I just bite the bullet, bone up on awk, and fix the damm
 scripts?  Yes I know, I _should_ know awk.
 
   Which is the newer/better/most compatiable Awk?
 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 
 Wayne
 
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Have you looked at the gawk pacakge? I think it does what you want. AFAIK,
the mawk package is installed by default in the base system because it
is smaller and space on the floppies is a premium.
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Re: Floppy Drive Problem.

1999-03-13 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Floppy Drive Problem.
Date: Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 09:23:24AM -0500

In reply to:Person, Roderick

Quoting Person, Roderick([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Hey guys,
 
 The first question of the day for me has to due with Debian and Floppy
 drives. When I first installed debian, I had no problems with floppy drives,
 and in the quest for the perfect Deb Box something when wrong, I guess. 
 
 It seems that I can format ext2 fs on floppy. At first I thougth my FD was
 just dying, so I replaced it. Now when I make a ext2 disk it won't mount and
 info to it is not copied to it. Now, I can read DOS, ext2 floppys that I
 already have but once I write to them, I can no longer read them. I have
 tried changing fstab fd0 entry from auto to ext2 to msdos, but it all the
 same. Anyone have a clue on this one.
 
 Roderick P. Person
 ?
 454-2616
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

As I see no one has answered I'll give it a shot.

To use a floppy it first has to be formated.  superformat /dev/fd0 hd.
That low level formats the disk. Then you have to put a file system on
the disk  So mkfs -t ext2 /dev/fd0 will do that.  To copy to the
floppy it must first be mounted, so mount /dev/fd0 -t ext2 /mnt.  Then 
a cp xyx /mnt will copy file xyz to the disk. 


You could put a line in /etc/fstab to speed up the process.  I will
leave that for you to research.

See man page mkfs for other options to mkfs.

Are these the steps you used?

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us who are fortunate enough never to have been one -- like watching
Charlie Chaplin trying to cook a shoe.
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Re: C Program confused me

1999-03-13 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Mar 13, 1999 at 01:57:58PM +0800, ivan wrote:
 
 Check out sci.math  the sci.math FAQ (lost the url-sorry) - the faq has
 extensive descriptions of several different algorithms for calculating pi.

I don't know if it's there, but I like the Monte Carlo method the best.

You draw a circle in a square (diameter two, square has edges of length two,
too). Then you throw stones and count the nr of stones in the circle, C, and
the number of stones in the square but not in the circle, S, (stones outside of
the square don't count at all --- ignore them).

Then 4*C/(C+S) is near pi.

Of course, you would need a good random number generator to implement this.
/dev/urandom will be slow, but a good choice. Also, to implement this, I
would use coordinates that go diagonally through the square (then a stone
is inside the square iff |x+y| = 1, which is hopefully faster then |x|=1
and |y|=1, and in the circle, iff x²+y²=1, which is fast, too)

If you use  or = shouldn't matter, because a line has no area (the limit
should be the same).

But then, this is not the best method to calculate PI, but it has
interesting philosophical implications if you try to define it this way (or
even if you want to proof that this definition is equal to other).


Sorry, I was carried away :) Maybe we need debian-math.
Marcus
 

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Enlightenment 0.15 .debs

1999-03-13 Thread Brian Almeida

Enlightenment 0.15 .debs are out. They will not be uploaded into the
distribution, they are placed in the GNOME staging area. This is so that
Debian can make sure all the packages for gnome/gtk/imlib work together, and
working packages will be uploaded, not broken ones. In the meantime, you can
access the .debs at http://www.debian.org/~bma/enlightenment/
They are also apt-accessible. Add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://www.debian.org/~bma enlightenment/

If you encounter any problems with these, please email me directly, instead of
using Debian's bug tracking system, since they are not released officially yet.

Enjoy!

bma
Uber-E maintainer for Debian



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Re: lilo.conf problems

1999-03-13 Thread Mark Wagnon
Nicholas W Kopan wrote:
 
 I am having problems configuring lilo to dual boot to debian and
 win98.  I have two hard drives:
 Primary /dev/hda, one partition, /dev/hda1 = win98 boot FAT32 3.2Gb
 Secondary /dev/hdb, two partitions, /dev/hdb1 = linux boot 4.0Gb
 

[snippage]

 Here is lilo.conf
 
 boot = /dev/hda1

That should be boot=/dev/hda

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new user unable to install Slink

1999-03-13 Thread Olivier Ripoll
Hi everybody,

I am trying to install slink for CDs (I' ve just burned them).
During the boot process, I got the following (after indentification of
cd and hard drive)

(scsi0) Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra SCSI host adapter found at PCI 11/0
(scsi0) Wide channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 SCBs
(scsi0) Downloading sequencer code ... 419 instructions downloaded

and the computer got frozen

My computer is a Dell OptiPlex GXa :
Pentium II 300Mhz
96 Mb ram
scsi adapter : Adaptec AHA-2940 (SCSI ID =7)
network card : com fast etherlink XL PCI adapter 3c905
cd-rom : don't know
no pcmia

I hope someone can help me ...

Sincerely,

Olivier Ripoll.



Re: Awk scripts Debian awk version

1999-03-13 Thread Dale Scheetz
I believe you only need to install the gawk package (from the
/interpreters section) to get what you want. You will have to repair any
explicit references to awk (changing them to gawk), but that should be
enough to make the scripts work. I got bit by mawk myself.

Also, I believe that mawk/gawk use update alternatives, with the
priorities set to prefer mawk over gawk. You can change this preference by
changing the symlink (see the docs on update-alternatives). This could
allow you to avoid any changes to your scripts.

Luck,

On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Wayne Topa wrote:

 
   I have some small scripts that keep a log file of notes.  The
 searchlog feature uses awk.  Now that I have decided to move my 
 operating from the Slackware box that the scripts work in to debian,
 the scripts no longer work.
 
   Doing some research I found that the boxes have different versions
 of awk/mawk.
 
   The slackware system:  awk -W version  GNU Awk 3.0.3  
 and debiam Slink awk -W version  mawk 1.3.3 Nov 1996.
 
 Questions.  
   Rather than load up the newer awk from the tarball at the
 GNU site, are there, or will there be, an updated awk in the base
 package of potato?  
 
   Would moving to the GNU awk affect any debian specific items?
 Namely deselect, apt-get, dpkg?
 
   Should I just bite the bullet, bone up on awk, and fix the damm
 scripts?  Yes I know, I _should_ know awk.
 
   Which is the newer/better/most compatiable Awk?
 
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 
 Wayne
 
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newbie unable to install Slink

1999-03-13 Thread Olivier Ripoll
Hi everybody,

I am trying to install slink for CDs (I' ve just burned them).
During the boot process, I got the following (after indentification of
cd and hard drive)

(scsi0) Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra SCSI host adapter found at PCI 11/0
(scsi0) Wide channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 SCBs
(scsi0) Downloading sequencer code ... 419 instructions downloaded

and the computer got frozen

My computer is a Dell OptiPlex GXa :
Pentium II 300Mhz
96 Mb ram
scsi adapter : Adaptec AHA-2940 (SCSI ID =7)
network card : com fast etherlink XL PCI adapter 3c905
cd-rom : don't know
no pcmia

I hope someone can help me ...

Sincerely,

Olivier Ripoll.

PS : I am not sure the first message was correctly sent, so I resent
this. Sorry if there are two.



Re: Kernel 2.2.3

1999-03-13 Thread Mark Wagnon
I have couple of questions about upgrading my kernel to 2.2.3.

I downloaded the full source and went through all the steps to compile,
but when I rebooted I received an error telling me that modules.dep was
empty. I took a look at /lib/modules/2.2.3/modules.dep and yep, it's
empty. I looked at the modules.dep file under my 2.0.34 directory and it
looks like this file tells where all the modules are.

Since mine is empty, where can I find a replacement, or how do I get it
populated?

I ran through the compilation sequence twice, with the same results.

Any ideas/suggestions?

TIA
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Slink CDs.

1999-03-13 Thread shaul
1) I saw some CD vendors who claim that they ship their CD with a multi-cd 
method. Isn't the multi-cd method part of the official CD ? Is it required 
inspite the inclusion of apt ?
2) Some CD vendors say that their CDs include contrib + non-US + parts of 
non-free. Others only mention non US. However, if the official CD has about 
1150 packages then is it wrong to conclude that any vendor who ships 4 or 5 
CDs with about 2550 packages must have include contrib + non-US + parts of 
non-free ?




Re: Awk scripts Debian awk version

1999-03-13 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: Awk scripts  Debian awk version
Date: Sat, Mar 13, 1999 at 01:25:15PM -0600

In reply to:Stephen Pitts

Quoting Stephen Pitts([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 On Sat, Mar 13, 1999 at 01:48:57PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:
  
I have some small scripts that keep a log file of notes.  The
  searchlog feature uses awk.  Now that I have decided to move my 
  operating from the Slackware box that the scripts work in to debian,
  the scripts no longer work.
  
  
 Have you looked at the gawk pacakge? I think it does what you want. AFAIK,
 the mawk package is installed by default in the base system because it
 is smaller and space on the floppies is a premium.
 -- 
 Stephen Pitts
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 webmaster - http://www.mschess.org

Thanks Stephen, that was the fix.  doh!  Why I hadn't looked for gawk
I don't know.  I sure knew about cut I guess I got lost in the trees!

Changing the awk call to gawk fixed it

Thanks!!

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Re: I've been cracked! (hamm, 2.0.35)

1999-03-13 Thread Don Erickson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:

 Then they typically use a rootkit to get root access and replace files,
just as you've seen. ls is usually the first one they hack. 

Thanks to all for the good advice, I'm using this as an excellent excuse
to upgrade my creaky 486 and start over with a whole new system and a
whole new machine. 

Rooting around on rootshell.com, it's possible that the cracker got in
through wu-ftpd.  I'd noticed some odd things in the logs before, and
there were two times that my root partition had filled up for no
discernable reason.  A classic sign of system compromise, I understand. 
 
Both my ls and du executables were replaced by bogus versions, which is
why it took me a week to figure out what had happened.  Yeah, some weird
things were happening, but one hates to get paranoid, you know.

Regards,

-Don
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Re: kernel Image Size.

1999-03-13 Thread Pedro Guerreiro
On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 11:04:21AM -0500, Person, Roderick wrote:

 What FF is the larges size a Kernel can be to get mounted!! My smallest
 kernel so far is 808,536 in size. My largest was over a Meg. Help ! All I
 maked was to hear Window Maker! That's all

Try installing the kernel-package and using make-kpkg to compile the kernel.
It's the _right_ way to do it under Debian, and I've _never_ and any problems
with it.

BTW, my kernel (2.2.3) is 664Kb compiled with egcs. Under gcc it was only
652Kb.

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Diplomacy: the art of letting someone have your own way.


ping script for isp autologout

1999-03-13 Thread Bob Bernstein
My local mom 'n pop ISP (brainiac) was sold to a large ISP (who shall for the
moment remain anonymous) that - I *think* - engages in the practice of logging
users out after a certain period of idle time. (I'm waiting for their
support to get back to me on this question.)

I know folks have devised scripts to auto-ping remote sites in order to defeat
this practice. 

Could someone give me a steer towards one or two of these scripts?


Re: ping script for isp autologout

1999-03-13 Thread thomas lakofski
there's a debian package for it, `pppupd':

pppupd - Keeps a ppp connection alive

PPPupd, is a simple daemon which maintains a dialup PPP connection. PPPupd
is able to:
   + Execute a redial script, should the connection drop.

   + Send out periodic pings to keep a connection up, which might
   be disconnected by unruly ISP's who kick their well paying
   members off, after a predetermined number of minutes of
   inactivity.


On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Bob Bernstein wrote:

 From: Bob Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 21:20:45 + (GMT)
 Subject: ping script for isp autologout
 
 My local mom 'n pop ISP (brainiac) was sold to a large ISP (who shall for the
 moment remain anonymous) that - I *think* - engages in the practice of logging
 users out after a certain period of idle time. (I'm waiting for their
 support to get back to me on this question.)
 
 I know folks have devised scripts to auto-ping remote sites in order to defeat
 this practice. 
 
 Could someone give me a steer towards one or two of these scripts?
 
 
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xtrememleyyhiclmelyey  BAD hiccuppy etc must sign off - 
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Re: lilo

1999-03-13 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: lilo
Date: Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 06:51:33PM +1100

In reply to:Shao Zhang

Quoting Shao Zhang([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Hi,
 I have got a 4.3GB harddisk, and due to that, lilo cannot see my
 kernel which is stored outside 1024 cylinders.
 The following is my configuration file, but I still cannot get it
 working. AmI missing anything below? Thx.
 install=/boot/boot.b
 map=/boot/map
 vga=normal
 disk=/dev/hda
 bios = 0x80
 sectors = 63
 heads = 16
 cylinders = 8400
 root=/dev/hda1
 boot=/dev/hda1
 image=/vmlinuz
 append=hd=8400,16,63
 label=Linux
 read-only
 
 I also tried the linear option. But it does not work
 
 Thx.

# Start LILO global section
boot = /dev/hda # Device containing boot sector
compact # faster, but won't work on all systems.
prompt  # Force boot prompt
map = /boot/map # Default   = /boot/map
Default = Slink2.2.3# Default   = /boot/boot.number
Timeout = 250   # Wait val/10 sec. after prompt then
boot default# End LILO global section
# Start LILO global section

boot = /dev/hda # Device containing boot sector

compact # faster, but won't work on all systems.
prompt  # Force boot prompt
map = /boot/map # Default   = /boot/map
Default = Slink2.2.3# Default   = /boot/boot.number
Timeout = 250   # Wait val/10 sec. after prompt then
boot default
# End LILO global section


Image= /boot/Slink-2.2.3
  label  = Slink2.2.3
  Root   = /dev/hdb2
  VGA= 0xb
  append  = lp=parport0 parport=0x378,none


I think your boot = has to be changed, but I am not a lilo expert!

HTH

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Re: I've been cracked! (hamm, 2.0.35)

1999-03-13 Thread thomas lakofski
Probably a good idea long-term to subscribe to BUGTRAQ, or at least,
debian-security-announce.  usually you'll have some leeway between
discovery of an exploit and potentially being attacked with it, but if
you're wide open for weeks it's definitely asking for trouble.

it's also worth shutting down as much on the machine as possible -- only
run minimal services necessary, and be aware of what net-facing services
you're running when following security news.

-thomas

On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Don Erickson wrote:

 Thanks to all for the good advice, I'm using this as an excellent excuse
 to upgrade my creaky 486 and start over with a whole new system and a
 whole new machine. 

..
please forgive my abrupt ending hre - but my conection is  
xtrememleyyhiclmelyey  BAD hiccuppy etc must sign off - 
EF D8 33 68 B3 E3 E9 D2  C1 3E 51 22 8A AA 7B 98 umbra (!)



Re: auto sorting mail clients

1999-03-13 Thread John Leget
Hmmm, would this sort of set up work for netscape, then i can just set up a 
cron to fetch
the mail and have it ready when i get home ;0).  To read with netscape say.

cheers

Nicolas PROCHAZKA wrote:

 Try procmail, it's very good stuff, and it's independant of your email
 client , an example of procmailrc :
 :0:
 * ^Cc:.*debian.*
 myEmail/Mailing

 :0:
 * ^To:.*debian
 myEmail/Mailing

 Put all debian mailing list into myEamil/Mailing mailbox
 then I use pine for example to read them

 NP

 On 11 Mar 1999, Ole J. Tetlie wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Hi !
  im looking for a good email client (graphical and non-graphical) w/c 
   can automatically sort out emails like put all mails where either the to: 
   or the cc: fields contain debian-user@lists.debian.org etc etc.  seems 
   like there are just too many of them to try out one by one.
  can anyone suggest something to me and maybe tell me in a few lines 
   why they prefer that client ?
 
  I prefer gnus. The reason is that it is shamelessly general
  and can do almost anything you want, including sorting (I
  still haven't managed to tell it to get me cup of tea for
  every message with exactly 395 bytes, but I expect that it were
  possible if my robotics skills improved).
 
  I wouldn't really recommend gnus if you don't program in lisp.
 
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HELP INSTALLING X USING DPKG FOR A NEWBIE

1999-03-13 Thread Robert Aisenberg
Hi-
I am trying to install X and have posted about 5 messages. I am new
to Linux and Unix (I'm running WIN95) currently I have not done anything
productive with it except get frustrated. I downloaded Debian 2.1 onto a
80386 with 250 MB of disk space for / and a 30 MB swap. I want to get
X running so I downloaded it from XFree86.org there I ran the setup
script and it said something about a.out and that it could not run. So I
tried a dpkg. I downloaded several .deb files and every time it said
something about a package list not comple or a broken package or a
dependancy probelem. All of it was greak to me so I came to this list. I
tried dselect but I could not figure that out even after reading the
readme. If someone could tell me how to use dpkg correctly, I've been
using a command like dpkg -i /dos/floppy/xserve~1.deb, and tell me
what packages to download plus the order in which to install them that
would be great.

Thanks in advance
-James


elm sending blank mails

1999-03-13 Thread Max Kamenetsky
I just upgraded my potato system to the latest version of libc and exim,
and I'm not faced with the problem of elm sending blank e-mails.  If I
send a test message or reply to someone else's e-mail, the message comes
out blank.  The mail buffer gets written to a file in /tmp just like it's
supposed to, and I can see that it's there right before I press s to
send.  The strange thing is that the message is sent empty, even though
it gets written properly to my sent folder.  There are no error messages
in exim's mainlog.  What is even stranger is that if I send a MIME
message, it goes through OK.  Pine also works fine.  So, does anyone know
what's going on?  I'd really like to get this fixed ASAP, but it seems
that the Debian version of elm wasn't compiled with debugging support.

I'm running glibc2.1 under kernel 2.1.121.

Thanks, and please reply via e-mail!

Max Kamenetsky


Re Installing X to Debian for a Newbie

1999-03-13 Thread Robert Aisenberg
Hi-
I will mail an answer to you if I can find one. And if you find out
could you mail how to me?
-James


Re: elm sending blank mails

1999-03-13 Thread John Goerzen
Max,

I don't know if this is a problem with glibc2.1 or Exim -- neither of
which I have the opportunity to test (my development platform is Alpha 
running sendmail).

It is possible that your kernel version is causing trouble; being an
unstable and development kernel could have its risks.

Have you tried downgrading system components one by one to make sure
that it's really an elm problem and not a glibc2.1 one?  What happens
with other MTAs?

Max Kamenetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I just upgraded my potato system to the latest version of libc and exim,
 and I'm not faced with the problem of elm sending blank e-mails.  If I
 send a test message or reply to someone else's e-mail, the message comes
 out blank.  The mail buffer gets written to a file in /tmp just like it's
 supposed to, and I can see that it's there right before I press s to
 send.  The strange thing is that the message is sent empty, even though
 it gets written properly to my sent folder.  There are no error messages
 in exim's mainlog.  What is even stranger is that if I send a MIME
 message, it goes through OK.  Pine also works fine.  So, does anyone know
 what's going on?  I'd really like to get this fixed ASAP, but it seems
 that the Debian version of elm wasn't compiled with debugging support.
 
 I'm running glibc2.1 under kernel 2.1.121.
 
 Thanks, and please reply via e-mail!
 
 Max Kamenetsky


Re: Slink CDs.

1999-03-13 Thread Ray
On Sat, Mar 13, 1999 at 10:56:27PM +0200, shaul wrote:
 1) I saw some CD vendors who claim that they ship their CD with a multi-cd 
 method. Isn't the multi-cd method part of the official CD ? Is it required 
 inspite the inclusion of apt ?

The problem is that even Just main is bigger than 1 CD and APT doesn't
have a multi-cd option yet (not that I know of anyway).

 2) Some CD vendors say that their CDs include contrib + non-US + parts of 
 non-free. Others only mention non US. However, if the official CD has about 
 1150 packages then is it wrong to conclude that any vendor who ships 4 or 5 
 CDs with about 2550 packages must have include contrib + non-US + parts of 
 non-free ?

If you are getting just 1 CD than you get most of main and that's it.  It
has everything needed for the default package selections (workstation,
server etc.).  If you get more CDs then CD-2 has the rest of main and all of
contrib.  I think CDs 3  4 are source and 5 is non-free.  I'm not sure
where non-us goes but there should be room on either 2 or 5.

BTW this is from memory so if anyone has a correction then please...


-- 
Ray
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: HELP INSTALLING X USING DPKG FOR A NEWBIE

1999-03-13 Thread servis
*- On 13 Mar, Robert Aisenberg wrote about HELP INSTALLING X USING DPKG FOR A 
NEWBIE
 Hi-
 I am trying to install X and have posted about 5 messages. I am new
 to Linux and Unix (I'm running WIN95) currently I have not done anything
 productive with it except get frustrated. I downloaded Debian 2.1 onto a
 80386 with 250 MB of disk space for / and a 30 MB swap. I want to get
 X running so I downloaded it from XFree86.org there I ran the setup
 script and it said something about a.out and that it could not run. So I
 tried a dpkg. I downloaded several .deb files and every time it said
 something about a package list not comple or a broken package or a
 dependancy probelem. All of it was greak to me so I came to this list. I
 tried dselect but I could not figure that out even after reading the
 readme. If someone could tell me how to use dpkg correctly, I've been
 using a command like dpkg -i /dos/floppy/xserve~1.deb, and tell me
 what packages to download plus the order in which to install them that
 would be great.
 
 Thanks in advance
 -James
 
 

James, X is not any easy thing, so don't get too frustrated.  Also,
this don't expect all questions to get answered on this list.  It is
a very high traffic list and lots of users just skim the subjects,
skipping as they see fit.

Have you looked at the deselect-beginners guide at 
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/dselect-beginner.html
 ?
It might be of some additional help.

You will probably need the following to get started.

xfree86-common
xbase-clients
xserver-common
xfonts-75dpi
xfonts-base
xfs
xlib6g
xpm4g
xterm
zlib1g

and

xserver-{your video cards chipset} , like xserver-mach64 for most ATI
cards.

If you can not figure out dselect, download all the files to an empty
directory and then install them all at once with 'dpkg -i *'.  I did
not check all the dependcies of the above but I think that should be a
complete set.

Good luck,

-- 
Brian 
-
Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes,  
 because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. 
   - unknown  

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Purdue University   http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis
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Re: Kernel 2.2.3

1999-03-13 Thread Roy-Anders Larsen


On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Mark Wagnon wrote:

 I have couple of questions about upgrading my kernel to 2.2.3.
 
 I downloaded the full source and went through all the steps to compile,
 but when I rebooted I received an error telling me that modules.dep was
 empty. I took a look at /lib/modules/2.2.3/modules.dep and yep, it's
 empty. I looked at the modules.dep file under my 2.0.34 directory and it
 looks like this file tells where all the modules are.
 
 Since mine is empty, where can I find a replacement, or how do I get it
 populated?

I also noticed this when I first started compiling kernels, and soon found
out that the computer automatically made modules.dep on boot.  I don't
know what makes it or how.  It just does..
Anyone know what package/program does this ?


Roy
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ether= parameter doesn't work

1999-03-13 Thread Peter Paluch
Hello,
==

I am using 2.2.1 kernel and I have 3 Ethernet cards in my Linux box (all
are Realtek 8029 PCI). The 3rd was added recently. I wanted to preserve my
settings - I knew that adding the 3rd card would change my present eth0 and
eth1 name-to-adapter assignments. 

So I added an append line to my lilo.conf, filled it with proper values,
ran lilo and restarted my server. After booting it up I ended up with
swapped names of cards so I thought I made a mistake somewhere. I made more
experiments - and I observed that the ne2k-pci driver completely ignored
the values specified in ether= parameters. Is it possible that ne2k-pci
looks for more than one network card automatically (and therefore
disregards the ether= parameter)? If so, do all drivers do the same, or
is this just a speciality of ne2k-pci? I haven't noticed any message
telling me that I've supplied a wrong parameter to the kernel.

Does any of you know if something has changed in 2.2.x about that ether=
parameter? Again, I am using 2.2.1 kernel with built-in ne2k-pci driver
(not as a module). By the way, where can I get some information about new
parameters which can be passed to 2.2.x kernels? Is BootPrompt HOWTO
updated already? 

Thank you in forward.

All the very best, 
Peter
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Re: elm sending blank mails

1999-03-13 Thread Max Kamenetsky
On 13 Mar 1999, John Goerzen wrote:
 I don't know if this is a problem with glibc2.1 or Exim -- neither of
 which I have the opportunity to test (my development platform is Alpha 
 running sendmail).
 
 It is possible that your kernel version is causing trouble; being an
 unstable and development kernel could have its risks.
 
 Have you tried downgrading system components one by one to make sure
 that it's really an elm problem and not a glibc2.1 one?  What happens
 with other MTAs?

No, I haven't tried downgrading yet, though I know that the problem is not
with the kernel version.  I get the same problem with kernel 2.2.3.  I'd
also be very surprised if this were an MTA problem because pine works
fine.  I haven't tried downgrading glibc because that is a major task
(it's a whole bunch of packages, I'm not even sure where to begin with
those).  So, is there anyone out there using elm with exim and glibc2.1?
There's got to be at least one person!

Max

 Max Kamenetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I just upgraded my potato system to the latest version of libc and exim,
  and I'm not faced with the problem of elm sending blank e-mails.  If I
  send a test message or reply to someone else's e-mail, the message comes
  out blank.  The mail buffer gets written to a file in /tmp just like it's
  supposed to, and I can see that it's there right before I press s to
  send.  The strange thing is that the message is sent empty, even though
  it gets written properly to my sent folder.  There are no error messages
  in exim's mainlog.  What is even stranger is that if I send a MIME
  message, it goes through OK.  Pine also works fine.  So, does anyone know
  what's going on?  I'd really like to get this fixed ASAP, but it seems
  that the Debian version of elm wasn't compiled with debugging support.
  
  I'm running glibc2.1 under kernel 2.1.121.
  
  Thanks, and please reply via e-mail!


SMP with kernel 2.2.3

1999-03-13 Thread Max Kamenetsky
Has anyone here tried running an SMP system with kernel 2.2.3?  If so, can
you get it to use both processors?  For some reason, I can get it to
recognize two processors (this shows up in xproc), but top shows that at
most 50% of the CPU is getting used, i.e. only one of the processors.  At
first I thought that top was wrong, but it does seem much slower than with
kernel 2.1.121.  

Thanks for any help!

Max Kamenetsky


Re: which package provides ldd

1999-03-13 Thread Pedro Guerreiro
On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 12:01:39AM +0100, Laurent PICOULEAU wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Mar, 1999 à 10:46:59PM -0500, dyer wrote:
  Matt Garman wrote:
  
   Which package has the ldd program in it?  I could swear this utility
   used to be on my computer, now it's not (I had that dselect removal
   disaster mentioned in an earlier post).
  
  
  base/ldso
 
 And what about slink ???
  
 turing:/home/lcrpic# dpkg -l ldso
 Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
 | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
 |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: 
 uppercase=bad)
 ||/ NameVersionDescription
 +++-===-==-
 ii  ldso1.9.10-1   The Linux dynamic linker, library and 
 utilit
 turing:/home/lcrpic# dpkg -L ldso
 /.
 /sbin
 /sbin/ldconfig.new
 /usr
 /usr/bin
 /usr/lib
 /usr/lib/lddstub
[snip rest of listing]

 There's still a man page for ldd but no more ldd :-?

Try to install this package again. I've had the same problem but it did went
away when I reinstalled the package.

root:~ # dpkg -l ldso
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ NameVersionDescription
+++-===-==-
ii  ldso1.9.10-1   The Linux dynamic linker, library and utilit
root:~ # dpkg -l ldso
/.
/sbin
/sbin/ldconfig.new
/usr
/usr/bin
/usr/bin/ldd
/usr/lib
/usr/lib/lddstub
/usr/man
/usr/man/man8
/usr/man/man8/ld.so.8.gz
/usr/man/man8/ldconfig.8.gz
/usr/man/man1
/usr/man/man1/ldd.1.gz
/usr/doc
/usr/doc/ldso
/usr/doc/ldso/copyright
/usr/doc/ldso/README.gz
/usr/doc/ldso/changelog.gz
/lib
/lib/ld.so.1.9.10
/lib/ld-linux.so.1.9.10
/lib/ld-linux.so.1
/lib/libdl.so.1.9.10
/lib/libdl.so.1

What's going on guys?
-- 
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Diplomacy: the art of letting someone have your own way.


freshmeat crashes Netscape

1999-03-13 Thread Pollywog
This is odd.  freshmeat.net crashes my Netscape 4.5 (on Debian Hamm) and has
been doing so for at least a week.  Anyone else have this experience?

--
Andrew


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Re: [Systalk] freshmeat crashes Netscape

1999-03-13 Thread Jeffrey Borg

 This is odd.  freshmeat.net crashes my Netscape 4.5 (on Debian Hamm) and has
 been doing so for at least a week.  Anyone else have this experience?

me too BUT only on 1 box my other box is fine (altough it's slower)
netscape 4.5 on a PII233 with 256Mb of ram will crash displaying freshmeat
sometimes

BUT on a P200 with 64Mb ram (mostly used and going into major swap) it
works perfectly , go figure? and the netscape tree was just copied out of
the other box.

netscape 4.08 on a sun sparc running solaris (don't know what version)
works perfectly with freshmeat

oh yes netscape 4.51 is out also

go figure?

Jeffrey Borg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Upgrade to 2.2.1 kernel, sound problems

1999-03-13 Thread Pedro Guerreiro
On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 10:32:04PM -0600, Mark Panzer wrote:

 I upgraded to the 2.2.1 kernel (it should be somewhat stable being an
 even release number) and my AWE 64 sound card now fails to work. I have
 isapnp installed to configure the soundcard on bootup, that works fine
 (prints out board id etc...). However when I attempt to use mpg123 to
 play mp3 files I recieve the following error.
 
 Can't open /dev/dsp!
 
 However I do have dsp in my device driver dir (/dev/).
 
 ls -l /dev/dsp
 crw-rw1 root  audio   14, 3 May 12 1998 /dev/dsp

Make sure you belong to group audio, or you'll never get permition to
write/read from /dev/dsp.

 Can you shed any light on my problem? (I also noticed that the config
 script for the kernel never asked for io/irq/dma etc.. addresses what's
 up?)

Just add the configuration to the /etc/modutils/options file and then run
update-modules, that will do the trick. It did for me:-)

I've got an AWE32 PNP with a 2.2.3 kernel running with no problems.
-- 
Pedro Guerreiro (aka digito)([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
Diplomacy: the art of letting someone have your own way.


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