Re: small problems after installing potato

1999-05-15 Thread Pollywog

On 15-May-99 Martin Bialasinski wrote:
> 
>>> "P" == Pollywog  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> P> software with dselect, it tries to upgrade my custom kernel to the
> P> default 2.2.5 kernel (my custom kernel is also 2.2.5).
> 
> How did you build it? When you use kernel-package, you can use a
> revision number that is higher than any that could possible be in the
> archive (well on reasonable grounds), so dselect and apt won't
> recognise the official one as a newer version.

I was wondering if I could do that, and avoid this problem without having to
download a newer kernel.
> 
> Either set the kernel-image package on hold ( "=" in dselect), or
> recompile you cuszom kernel with somthing like
> 
> make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel-image
> 

thanks, I was unsure if I could just put the kernel package on hold.

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Re: isapnp problems

1999-05-15 Thread Martin Bialasinski

Quoting Paul Nathan Puri([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

>> I'm trying to get the modem going.  Windows reported that it sat on
>> IRQ 4, on io port 0110-0117.

>> "WT" == Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

WT> That is a strange looking port address. Common address for COM 1
WT> is 3F8 on 'normal' PC hardware.

This is OK. It looks like it is an internal modem (evil), that's why
he uses isapnp

What modem is it anyway? It's not one of the winmodems that only work
with windows 95/98 ?

Ciao,
Martin


Re: packages for dialing isp

1999-05-15 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "M" == MallarJ  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

M> but KPPP refuses to do the job.  XISP is nice, but I couldn't get
M> it to dial over 38,000kbps for me for some reason.  WVDial is what
M> I use now.  It's not

Both are frontends to pppd, so as long as the same options are used,
the result should be that same.

Check if wvdial uses some special init string for your modem, and
entre in into options->communication options. Also make sure that
Serial Port Rate in the same dialog is set to 115200, Flowcontrol
Hardware.

Other than that, I can't think of any reason why the result could be
different.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Need help installing - can't find hdd

1999-05-15 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Need help installing - can't find hdd
Date: Sat, May 15, 1999 at 02:40:43PM -0700

In reply to:freefood

Quoting freefood([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I cannot figure out how to get the debian boot program to recognize my
> hdd. I have a 13.5GB hdd, so I know there are issues with drives larger than
> 8GB, but I don't know how to resolve them. This is what I've done:
> 
 
Check the mail archives for the last 2 months.  I seem to recall a
discussion on that here and there were IIRC solutions posrted.

HTH

-- 
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is for compulsive neurotics who were prematurely toilet-trained.  They 
wear neckties and carefully line up pencils on otherwise qclear desks.
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Re: Kernel 2.2.x: PPP routing problem?

1999-05-15 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Kernel 2.2.x: PPP routing problem?
Date: Sat, May 15, 1999 at 05:46:14PM +0100

In reply to:Kris

Quoting Kris([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Problem: PPP works fine under kernel 2.0.36; under 2.2.x it connects, but 
> it seems like no packets go in or out. tcpdump only shows what looks like 
> things trying to get out, but not getting anything back (really technical, 
> huh?). I can ping myself (localhost & local IP), but not _any_ remote IPs 
> (including my nameservers). All IRQs, nameservers, & so on are set correctly.
> 
> PPP is compiled into the kernel (of 2.2.9), and I'm using the latest 
> version of PPP. It's slink, but I've tried it with apt-get update & upgrade 
> using the unstable area; makes no difference. Re-installed many times. 
> Booting from floppy due to a resistant HD/BIOS. I've spent about two weeks 
> on this problem, scouring searchlinux.com, deja(news), the HOW-TOs, Google, 
> and so on. And I reckon I've spent about £5 on phone bills trying things.
> 
> Here are various outputs while connected (my apologies if everything gets 
> munged by Eudora):

[ snip ]

> # egrep -v '#|^ *$' /etc/ppp/options
> asyncmap 0 authcrtscts   lock   hide-password   modem
> noipdefault-am -vj   debug  lcp-echo-interval 30
> lcp-echo-failure 4 noipx

I have a working ppp on kernel 2.2.9. my pppd command is 

exec /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS0 115200 lock modem crtscts \
 asyncmap 0 defaultroute connect $DIALER_SCRIPT
pppd --version
(pppd version 2.3 patch level 5)

egrep -v '#|^ *$' /etc/ppp/options
domain mindspring.com
mru 1500
mtu 1500
name 

 I don't recall making any changes to the above when going to the 2.2.x
kernel.  The only differences I can see are what i show above.

HTH

Wayne 

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revitalize the corner saloon.
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[ ppp-2.3.8 is out]

1999-05-15 Thread Wayne Topa


Thought that this might be of interest to the Debian group.


- Forwarded message from Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Date:   Fri, 14 May 1999 16:27:20 +1000
From:   Paul Mackerras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: linux-ppp@vger.rutgers.edu
Subject: ppp-2.3.8 is out
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ppp-2.3.8 is available now, in the usual place:

ftp://cs.anu.edu.au/pub/software/ppp

Mostly bug fixes and minor pppd improvements this time.  There are a
couple of bug fixes in the kernel PPP driver for Linux.  These fixes
are already in linux-2.2.8 (and 2.2.9).  Here's the "what's new"
section from the README:

What's new in ppp-2.3.8.


* The exit status of pppd will now indicate whether the link was
  successfully established, or if not, what error was encountered.

* Pppd has two new options: fdlog  will send log messages to file
  descriptor  instead of standard output, and nofdlog will stop log
  messages from being sent to any file descriptor (they will still be
  sent to syslog).  Pppd now will not send log messages to a file
  descriptor if the serial port is open on that file descriptor.

* Pppd sets an environment variable called PPPLOGNAME for scripts that
  it runs, indicating the login name of the user who invoked pppd.

* Pppd sets environment variables CONNECT_TIME, BYTES_SENT and
  BYTES_RCVD for the ip-down and auth-down scripts indicating the
  statistics for the connection just terminated.  (CONNECT_TIME is in
  seconds.)

* If the user has the serial device open on standard input and
  specifies a symbolic link to the serial device on the command line,
  pppd will detect this and behave correctly (i.e. not detach from its
  controlling terminal).  Furthermore, if the serial port is open for
  reading and writing on standard input, pppd will assume that it is
  locked by its invoker and not lock it itself.

* Chat now has a feature where if a string to be sent begins with an
  at sign (@), the rest of the string is taken as the name of a file
  (regular file or named pipe), and the actual string to send is taken
  from that file.

* Support for FreeBSD-2.2.8 and 3.0 has been added, thanks to Paul
  Fulghum.

* The Tru64 (aka Digital Unix aka OSF/1) port has been updated.

* The system panics on Solaris SMP systems related to PPP connections
  being established and terminated should no longer occur.

* Fixed quite a few bugs.


Paul.

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Re: Partitioning hard disk

1999-05-15 Thread Michelle Maria Coelho
Thank you for the prompt replies.
I'll try what you said and I think it will work. I decided to split the
swap among the disks because the Howto on Partitonioning a Hard Disk
suggested this.
I guess since I'll be the only user, I needn't have a /home partition.
Are  any other partitions besides / and /usr needed in my situation?
Thanks.
Michelle

> On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 05:33:01PM -0500, Michelle Maria Coelho wrote:
> ...
> > This is how I plan to partitiion the disks:
> > /hda1 40MB
> > swap   hda2 8MB
> > /usr  hda3  68MB
> > swap   hdb1  8MB
> > /usr  hdb2  250MB
> >
> > where hda is the 116MB disk and hdb is the 258MB disk.
> > Will the above configuration work..and can I split /usr across 2
> > partitions or will X complain?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Michelle

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Re: smail problem

1999-05-15 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "SZ" == Shao Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

SZ> Some sites block the emails sent from an unqualified domain.  How
SZ> do I configure smail so that I can send the mail via a qualified
SZ> smtp, or as it looks like my domain is qualified.

First make sure you don't deliver mail directly to the destination,
but use your ISP's mailhost. This will save you some trouble.

If you have a smart_host entry in /etc/smail/routers, then this is set 
up this way, otherwise rerun smail-config.

Then, make sure masquerade your host on smtp handshaking. In
/etc/smail/config you should use 

visible_name=cia.com.au

or such some.

You may also want to rewrite your Sender: header if it contains an
internal hostname (can't check this, I read the list through a
local mail2news gateway). See http://www.debian.org/fom/137.html

If hostname --fqdn doesn't show a hostname in the form of host.net for 
your box, then you should fix this as well. Refer to this list about
it.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: small problems after installing potato

1999-05-15 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "P" == Pollywog  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

P> software with dselect, it tries to upgrade my custom kernel to the
P> default 2.2.5 kernel (my custom kernel is also 2.2.5).

How did you build it? When you use kernel-package, you can use a
revision number that is higher than any that could possible be in the
archive (well on reasonable grounds), so dselect and apt won't
recognise the official one as a newer version.

Either set the kernel-image package on hold ( "=" in dselect), or
recompile you cuszom kernel with somthing like

make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel-image

Ciao,
Martin


Re: icewm-gnome config files

1999-05-15 Thread Tommy Malloy
Hi Tim

Thanks for the help.  Perhaps I was not clear
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Well what you want to look at, is the menu of the gnome panel :-) That
> will contain StarOffice.

This is correct.  Staroffice does appear in the menu of the gnome panel.
I added it using the gnome menuing utility.  However Staroffice does not
appear anywhere when I use icewm-gnome. icewm-gnome is a version of
icewm preconfigured to run gnome.  It is a separate deb and a separate
manager from regular icewm.  This must mean that gnome runing in
icewm-gnome must be reading a different config file from regular gnome.
fvwm+gnome has staroffice, fvwm2+gnome has staroffice, windowmaker+gnome
has staroffice icewm+gnome has staroffice etc.  
icewm-gnome does not have staroffice.  icewm-gnome must be reading a
differnet menu file. Running as root, I issued the following  command   
 "find / -name ice* | most"   I found no icewm-gnome config files


> I'm not sure where the ICEWm menu is stored, probably in the ~/.icewm
> directory :-)

There is no ~/.icewm or ~/icewm-gnome directory
I can live without this. I am actually using windowmaker now.  It seems
pretty cool  I looked briefly at enlightenment. It is quite hedious, but
that another story.  I just don't like when I don't understand stuff
that should be pretty simple.  Anyway thanks again for the help


error in read()ing first

1999-05-15 Thread Pollywog
I am getting lots of these errors and have no idea what they mean.

What is it all about?  I have not seen these before.

> May 15 22:35:16 lilypad /usr/sbin/gpm[156]: Error in read()ing first: No
> such file or directory
> May 15 22:35:16 lilypad /usr/sbin/gpm[156]: Error in read()ing first: No
> such file or directory

thanks

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Re: Partitioning hard disk

1999-05-15 Thread William Park
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 05:33:01PM -0500, Michelle Maria Coelho wrote:
...
> This is how I plan to partitiion the disks:
> /hda1 40MB
> swap   hda2 8MB
> /usr  hda3  68MB
> swap   hdb1  8MB
> /usr  hdb2  250MB
> 
> where hda is the 116MB disk and hdb is the 258MB disk.
> Will the above configuration work..and can I split /usr across 2
> partitions or will X complain?
> 
> Thanks,
> Michelle

No, you cannot do that --- one partition, one mounting point.
Also, try to increase swap size to 32Mb.

Why are you making 2 8Mb swap partitions, when single 16Mb will do?

My recommendattion is 
use 116Mb hard disk for / and swap
use 258Mb hard disk for /usr, /home/, or whatever.
 


Re: Partitioning hard disk

1999-05-15 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 05:33:01PM -0500, Michelle Maria Coelho wrote:
> Hi,
> I read your FAQ and so I was wondering if you   (or anyone elae out
> there) could help me:
> I have 2 disks:
> 1) 116 MB 8 heads, 762 cylinders, 39 sectors per track
> 2)  258MB  14 heads, 944 cylinders, 40 sectors per track
> 
> 16MB of RAM
> Debian Linux version 2 is the only operating system I plan to install.
> I want to use my PC solely for dialing into my university (ISP) and
> working from there.
> I also want to have the minimal X11 system.
> I want to install an Internet browser and maybe a few games.
> I will be the sole user.
> It's a 486SX processor.
> 
> This is how I plan to partitiion the disks:
> /hda1 40MB
> swap   hda2 8MB
> /usr  hda3  68MB
> swap   hdb1  8MB
> /usr  hdb2  250MB
> 
> where hda is the 116MB disk and hdb is the 258MB disk.
> Will the above configuration work..and can I split /usr across 2
> partitions or will X complain?

You cannot mount two partitions to the same mount point.  I'd recommend
something like:

/   hda186 MB
swaphda232 MB
/usrhdb1258 MB

Bob

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Re: How do I load CDRom driver?

1999-05-15 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 05:35:15PM -0500, Michelle Maria Coelho wrote:
> Hi,
> I read your article on command-line arguments at boot time and I was
> wondering if you or anyone else
> out there could perhaps help me out since you seem to be in the know of
> this..
> I have installed Debian Linux Version 2.x from floppies. I had no CDRom
> Drive at the time of installing.
> I bought a Matsushita IDE CDRom. How do I go about telling the kernel
> about it.
> I tried this, I don't know if it's the right thing to do:
> I ran modconf at root, and loaded cdrom module (Common utilities for
> CDRom drivers. Loaded
> automatically).
> 
> So, now how do I access the CDRom drive? Is it /dev/?

Assuming it is the master drive on the secondary IDE interface, it will
be /dev/hdc.  This should show up in the boot messages 'dmesg | less'.

Typically you mount it to /cdrom, 'mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /cdrom'.

Bob

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How do I load CDRom driver?

1999-05-15 Thread Michelle Maria Coelho
Hi,
I read your article on command-line arguments at boot time and I was
wondering if you or anyone else
out there could perhaps help me out since you seem to be in the know of
this..
I have installed Debian Linux Version 2.x from floppies. I had no CDRom
Drive at the time of installing.
I bought a Matsushita IDE CDRom. How do I go about telling the kernel
about it.
I tried this, I don't know if it's the right thing to do:
I ran modconf at root, and loaded cdrom module (Common utilities for
CDRom drivers. Loaded
automatically).

So, now how do I access the CDRom drive? Is it /dev/?

Thanks,
Michelle

--
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Department of Computer and Information Science
Purdue School of Science

Phone: 1-317-278-2948
Fax  : 1-317-274-9742




Partitioning hard disk

1999-05-15 Thread Michelle Maria Coelho
Hi,
I read your FAQ and so I was wondering if you   (or anyone elae out
there) could help me:
I have 2 disks:
1) 116 MB 8 heads, 762 cylinders, 39 sectors per track
2)  258MB  14 heads, 944 cylinders, 40 sectors per track

16MB of RAM
Debian Linux version 2 is the only operating system I plan to install.
I want to use my PC solely for dialing into my university (ISP) and
working from there.
I also want to have the minimal X11 system.
I want to install an Internet browser and maybe a few games.
I will be the sole user.
It's a 486SX processor.

This is how I plan to partitiion the disks:
/hda1 40MB
swap   hda2 8MB
/usr  hda3  68MB
swap   hdb1  8MB
/usr  hdb2  250MB

where hda is the 116MB disk and hdb is the 258MB disk.
Will the above configuration work..and can I split /usr across 2
partitions or will X complain?

Thanks,
Michelle


--
Michelle Maria Coelho
Department of Computer and Information Science
Purdue School of Science

Phone: 1-317-278-2948
Fax  : 1-317-274-9742




exim and UUCP

1999-05-15 Thread Thomas Adams
I need info on exim and UUCP. In slink's exim I found a little snippet about
UUCP which allowed me to receive mail. I have no idea about sending mail via
UUCP 'though. How should I do this?

BTW, which config is best as preparation for a UUCP configuration, the SMTP
or the local delivery?


Need help installing - can't find hdd

1999-05-15 Thread freefood
I cannot figure out how to get the debian boot program to recognize my
hdd. I have a 13.5GB hdd, so I know there are issues with drives larger than
8GB, but I don't know how to resolve them. This is what I've done:

hard boot using rescue floppy.
F4 info screen says that I need to specify params for hd and floppy
hit  at boot prompt to try default/auto-detect.
choose color monitor
it then says No hard disk drives could be found and wants me to specify
 network params since it thinks I'm diskless. I notice a console message
 that is obscured by the install windows. Some of the things I can read
 are ":hdd:I", "-floppy", "ide-flop".

I retried this procedure using "linux hd=16383,16,63" - which I think is the
upper limit that IDE drives can report. If I'm supposed to put the "real"
values, then
I don't know where to find them. Can't find them in the BIOS setup or on my
drive label itself or at the manufacturer website. All I can determine from
the specs is 16383 cyl, 16 logical heads, 6 physical heads, and 26,520,480
total sectors.

I also tried this param "hda=16383,16,63".
This time the boot procedure hung for a while and I could see these relevant
messages:
hda: no response {status = 0xff}
hda: non-IDE drive, CHS=16383,16,63
hda: drive not ready for command
ide0: reset timed-out, status = 0xff

Then the config stuff hangs for a long time in between steps with the
message "Please wait. The installation system is determining the current
state of your system...". I assume it keeps trying to probe the drive. I
went to the Partition a hard drive step and selected /dev/hda (only option)
and I got "Fatal Error: Cannot read disk drive".

Any help is much appreciated. Here's the relevant info for my system.

Gateway Performance 500
Western Digital AC313500 13.5GB, EIDE
Promise Ultra ATA/66 drive controller
128M ram
win98

I partioned my disk using fips and left 2GB at the end for linux, which is
fat32 formatted.


thanks mucho!
jeff


Re: Packages.gz

1999-05-15 Thread Pollywog

On 15-May-99 Bob Nielsen wrote:
> On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 06:37:30PM -, Pollywog wrote:
>> Now that I upgraded to Potato, with apt-get, I am unable to use dselect to
>> update packages.  It wants Package.gz files but I am uncertain how
>> to proceed.  Can anyone suggest where I might find step-by-step information
>> on
>> this?  Will I have to wait until a Potato CD is released or should I forget
>> about dselect and stick with apt?
> 
> Why not use the apt method with dselect and get the advantages of both.
> 

Thanks, I forgot about that.

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Re: Kernel patches needed for running Informix Dynamic Server Linux Edition

1999-05-15 Thread Adam Di Carlo
"F. Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'd like to know where can I find the patches to recompile the kernel
> 2.0.36 and/or 2.2.x so that the system supports more open files.
> 
> [...]They also say that the 2.2.5 that comes with
> RH6.0 already has been patched to work with Informix and Oracle.
> 
> Are those patches available in Debian? If not, anyone knows where
> to find them?

Pretty much any linux kernel works with Debian.  We provide images to
get people started but you don't have to run a stock Debian kernel
image to run Debian.  By no means.

In some cases, we provid kernel patch packages to solve problems,
generally, patches required for certain architectures.

I guess, basically, we just don't feel the need to provide this
functionality by default, since most people don't need it, and if you
do need it, tweaking the kernel and patching is so easy there's no
reason to provide a package.

I suggest you just

 . get the kernel-source package, or download sources from kernel.org
 or whereever you like to get kernel sources

 . ferret out the proper kernel patch for whatever kernel you are
running (I think it's just a tweak to an include file), then

 . use kernel-package to compile a new kernel

Voila.

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Re: Mouse problems

1999-05-15 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 03:51:25PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i'm trying to run X Windows, but it appears I never installed my mouse.  Is 
> there any way to do this once I'm past the initial setup?  I really don't 
> want to reinstall the entire thing, because I'm doing it off floppies.  I 
> have a 3 button Logitech Mouseman...does anyone know a way I can install it?  
> Thanks.

If it's a serial mouse, you don't need to do anything with the
installation.  Just run XF86Setup and choose the corresponding pointer
device. 

Bob

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Re: Packages.gz

1999-05-15 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 06:37:30PM -, Pollywog wrote:
> Now that I upgraded to Potato, with apt-get, I am unable to use dselect to
> update packages.  It wants Package.gz files but I am uncertain how
> to proceed.  Can anyone suggest where I might find step-by-step information on
> this?  Will I have to wait until a Potato CD is released or should I forget
> about dselect and stick with apt?

Why not use the apt method with dselect and get the advantages of both.

Bob

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Re: icewm-gnome config files

1999-05-15 Thread deblists
On 14 May, Tommy Malloy wrote:
> I added Staroffice to the Gnome menu, but it does not appear when I use
> icewm-gnome as my window mangager.  It does appear if I run gnome with
> other window managers including icewm.  icewm-gnome must be reading a
> different config file or something.  Can anyone tell me how to get it to
> do what I  want?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
Well what you want to look at, is the menu of the gnome panel :-) That
will contain StarOffice.

The window-manager specific menus will indeed not contain programs you
added manually, since they are configured from the Debian menu system;
ie; when you add a Debian packages it can register itself with the
windowmanager menus. But the windowmanager menus don't have much to do
with the Gnome panel menu...

I'm not sure where the ICEWm menu is stored, probably in the ~/.icewm
directory :-)
Also, there's supposedly a way to add your own entries to the Debian
menus, but I don't yet know how exactly that works :-)

--Tim



Re: Mouse problems

1999-05-15 Thread Patrick Kirk
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 03:51:25PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i'm trying to run X Windows, but it appears I never installed my mouse.  Is 
> there any way to do this once I'm past the initial setup?  I really don't 
> want to reinstall the entire thing, because I'm doing it off floppies.  I 
> have a 3 button Logitech Mouseman...does anyone know a way I can install it?  
> Thanks.
Just run x setup again and it will ask if you want to use your existing server 
as a base.  Say yes and just make the changes you need.

Patrick

> 
> 
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Re: Where is gnulibc2.1?

1999-05-15 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Sat, 15 May 1999, George Bonser wrote:

> > Is gnulibc2.1 available as a debian package somewhere?  If so, then where? 
> > The [EMAIL PROTECTED] client requires it now.  Any help would be 
> > appreciated.
> 
> That would be libc6.1 or glibc2.1  same thing.

Yes, but it doesn't do a slink user much good!  :-(

...RickM...


Re: making linux look bad

1999-05-15 Thread Patrick Kirk
Linux is a very intense learning experience that forces you to ponder security, 
the right gui, the nature of your hardware and the applications you really need 
and to configure programs to implement ways of managing all these things.  I am 
new to this in that I installed Debian for the first time a couple of days ago. 
 The support from this list way great.  But the support only can go so far; 
when you install Debian you take control of your PC and that does require a 
certain amount of learnin.

In my case, the key element was someone local who was a debian fan and allowed 
me to pohone him when dselect got very hairy.  He didn't help much but knowing 
there's someone to talk to if you get stuck is great.  Why not see if there's a 
Debian user near you who would be willing to help?

Patrick

 On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 08:05:31AM -0500, tf wrote:
> Hey everybody
> 
> I make linux look bad.  I've been messing with it for almost 2 years and have 
> never had it running well enough to use.  So.  can 
> someone give me a strategy to follow?  I'm obviously going about this  the 
> wrong way.  I think it would help if I got ppp 
> working-both pon and wvdail dial out, but leave the line open and not 
> connected to anything.  right now, my only internet 
> connection is via windows.
> 
> "RTFM" would be warrented, probably, but I already know that one!
> -t
> 
> 
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RE: Apt-get (dselect) wants to remove everything, by default

1999-05-15 Thread Pollywog

On 15-May-99 Pollywog wrote:
> Did you upgrade with 'dist-upgrade' or with some other command?
> Even I did not experience anything this bad.  I have a few problems, but I
> think apt-get is great.
> 
> I did have to manually install a few held back packages for which I did not
> have requisite packages installed, though.

I did just notice a small problem, when I used  'apt-get dselect-upgrade', apt
wanted to install three additional packages.  Two of these I could use, but
there is one I do not know ("lintian") and another I don't want anything to do
with (emacsen-common).

I am having problems with just plain dselect now.  It cannot find Packages.gz
files.

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Re: printing broken

1999-05-15 Thread dyer
Sheehan wrote:

> hi,
>
> I recently upgraded my system from  2.0 to 2.1. After the upgrade, ppp was
> broken. Because I had been using an old kernel (2.0.36) I decided to
> upgrade the kernel.  I upgraded to 2.2.5, and everything eweny ok. I
> compiled parrallel port support and parallel printer as  modules.
>
> Now when I try to print, I get the following message from the lpr command
>
> Printer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  'Lexmark'
>  Queue: 1 printable job
>  Server: pid 351 active
>  Unspooler: pid 352 active
>  Status: cannot open '/dev/lp1' - 'Operation not supported by device',
> attempt 1, sleeping 10 at 20:46:43
>  Rank   Owner/ID   Class Job  Files   Size
> Time
> active  [EMAIL PROTECTED] A  350 (stdin)5193
> 20:46:43
>

2.2 kernels now use lp0, not lp1 as the first printing device. Change lp1 to 
lp0 in
your /etc/printcap file and you should be OK.

--

dyer




Get thee behind me emacs20!

1999-05-15 Thread Bob Bernstein
I have never got the install of emacs20 (the deb package) right on this
machine. Since it was cluttering up every use of apt, I decided to put emacs19
 on the machine and remove emacs20. I can't remove it. A typescript of the
remove attempt is provided.

Here's what 'dpkg --list' shows for these creatures:

ii  emacs19 19.34-21   The GNU Emacs editor.
ii  emacs19-el  19.34-21   GNU Emacs LISP (.el) files.
rF  emacs20 20.3-7 The GNU Emacs editor.
ii  emacsen-common  1.4.8  Common facilities for all emacsen.

So, is there either a) a way to fudge the status of the package so that apt
will not attempt on every use to straighten it out, or b) a way to 'force'
dpkg to remove it?

Here's the 'dpkg -r' run; sorry about the length...

=== snip ===

(Reading database ... 58270 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing emacs20 ...
Checking available versions of ctags, updating links in /etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.)
Leaving ctags (/usr/bin/ctags) pointing to /usr/bin/ctags.xemacs20.
Leaving ctags.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/ctags.1.gz) pointing to
/usr/man/man1/ctags.xemacs20.1.gz.
Checking available versions of etags, updating links in /etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.)
Leaving etags (/usr/bin/etags) pointing to /usr/bin/etags.xemacs20.
warning: /usr/man/man1/etags.1.gz is supposed to be a slave symlink to
 /etc/alternatives/etags.1.gz, or nonexistent; however, readlink failed:
Invalid argument
Leaving etags.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/etags.1.gz) pointing to
/usr/man/man1/etags.xemacs20.1.gz.
Checking available versions of b2m, updating links in /etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.)
Leaving b2m (/usr/bin/b2m) pointing to /usr/bin/b2m.xemacs20.
Leaving b2m.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/b2m.1.gz) pointing to
/usr/man/man1/b2m.xemacs20.1.gz.
Checking available versions of emacsclient, updating links in
/etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.)
Leaving emacsclient (/usr/bin/emacsclient) pointing to
/usr/bin/emacsclient.emacs19.
Checking available versions of rcs-checkin, updating links in
/etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.)
Leaving rcs-checkin (/usr/bin/rcs-checkin) pointing to
/usr/bin/rcs-checkin.xemacs20.
Leaving rcs-checkin.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/rcs-checkin.1.gz) pointing to
/usr/man/man1/rcs-checkin.xemacs20.1.gz.
Checking available versions of emacs, updating links in /etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.)
Leaving emacs (/usr/bin/emacs) pointing to /usr/bin/emacs-19.34.
warning: /usr/man/man1/emacs.1.gz is supposed to be a slave symlink to
 /etc/alternatives/emacs.1.gz, or nonexistent; however, readlink failed:
Invalid argument
Leaving emacs.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/emacs.1.gz) pointing to
/usr/man/man1/emacs.1emacs19.gz.
emacs-remove emacs20
remove/auctex: Removing for emacs20...rmdir:
/usr/share/emacs20/site-lisp/auctex//style: No such file or directory
rmdir: /usr/share/emacs20/site-lisp/auctex: No such file or directory
done.
remove/bbdb: Handling removal of emacsen flavor emacs20
remove/bbdb: remove Info links for emacs20
remove/bbdb: purging byte-compiled files for emacs20
remove/calc: Handling removal of emacsen flavor emacs20
remove/calc: remove Info links for emacs20
remove/calc: purging byte-compiled files for emacs20
remove/elib: Handling removal of emacsen flavor emacs20
remove/elib: remove Info links for emacs20
remove/elib: purging byte-compiled files for emacs20
emacsen-common: Handling removal of emacsen flavor emacs20
emacsen-common: purging byte-compiled files for emacs20
remove/gettext: Purging byte-compiled files for emacs20
remove/hyperlatex: Handling removal of emacsen flavor emacs20
emacsen-common: purging byte-compiled files for emacs20
install/octave: Purging byte-compiled files for flavour emacs20
rmdir: /usr/share/emacs20/site-lisp/octave: No such file or directory
emacs-remove: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/remove/octave emacs20 emacs19
xemacs20 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-remove line 28.
dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--remove):
 subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 29
Checking available versions of ctags, updating links in /etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.)
Leaving ctags (/usr/bin/ctags) pointing to /usr/bin/ctags.xemacs20.
Leaving ctags.1.gz (/usr/man/man1/ctags.1.gz) pointing to
/usr/man/man1/ctags.xemacs20.1.gz.
Checking available versions of etags, updating links in /etc/alternatives ...
(You may modify the symlinks there yourself if desired - see `man ln'.)
Leaving etags (/usr/bin/etags) pointing to /usr/bin/etags.xemacs20.
warning: /usr/man/man1/etags.1.gz is supposed to be a slave symlink to
 /etc/alternatives/etags.1.gz, or

Re: x problem

1999-05-15 Thread Andrei Ivanov
xvidtune could be the answer. At least this is how I deal with my monitor
screen problems, when I start it up. Sounds exactly like your problem. 
Andrew

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RE: Apt-get (dselect) wants to remove everything, by default

1999-05-15 Thread Pollywog

On 15-May-99 Bryan Scaringe wrote:
> Another stupid dselect question:
> 
> I have upgraded my system to potato.  Now, whenever I start up dselect,
> (using apt-get, and set to the unstable branch), nearly everything
> is set to "remove" by default.  I'm talking about required stuff
> like "bash" and "tar"!  I know I can go through by hand and fix it,
> but this seems like an ass-backwards way.  If I wanted to remove a
> package,
> I'd have to fix everything by hand or risk trashing damn-near everything
> on my system.  Considering the number of packages, that could take days.

Did you upgrade with 'dist-upgrade' or with some other command?
Even I did not experience anything this bad.  I have a few problems, but I
think apt-get is great.

I did have to manually install a few held back packages for which I did not
have requisite packages installed, though.

I did 

# apt-get update
# apt-get dist-upgrade

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printing broken

1999-05-15 Thread Sheehan
hi,

I recently upgraded my system from  2.0 to 2.1. After the upgrade, ppp was
broken. Because I had been using an old kernel (2.0.36) I decided to
upgrade the kernel.  I upgraded to 2.2.5, and everything eweny ok. I
compiled parrallel port support and parallel printer as  modules.

Now when I try to print, I get the following message from the lpr command

Printer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  'Lexmark'
 Queue: 1 printable job
 Server: pid 351 active
 Unspooler: pid 352 active
 Status: cannot open '/dev/lp1' - 'Operation not supported by device',
attempt 1, sleeping 10 at 20:46:43
 Rank   Owner/ID   Class Job  Files   Size
Time
active  [EMAIL PROTECTED] A  350 (stdin)5193
20:46:43

/proc/devices reads :

Character devices:
  1 mem
  2 pty
  3 ttyp
  4 ttyS
  5 cua
  7 vcs
 10 misc
128 ptm
136 pts

Block devices:
  2 fd
  3 ide0
 22 ide1

lsmod reads :

ppp_deflate38504   0  (autoclean)
bsd_comp3456   0  (autoclean)
lp  4768   0  (autoclean) (unused)
serial 18112   1  (autoclean)
nls_iso8859-1   2024   1  (autoclean)
vfat   11304   1  (autoclean)
fat23904   1  (autoclean) [vfat]

Any help appreciated

Brian Sheehan


x problem

1999-05-15 Thread Steve Kondik
i'm using slink, with xfree upgraded to 3.3.3.1, with a diamond viper 550
and a sony 100es monitor.  in the console, the screen is perfectly centered,
while in x at any resolution, the screen is moved (black gap) down and to
the right about a half an inch.  it looks like the screen is being drawn too
late.  any suggestions on how to fix this?  i can't seem to find anything
relevant anywhere.

thanks, 
steve


Mouse problems

1999-05-15 Thread Morgoth3
i'm trying to run X Windows, but it appears I never installed my mouse.  Is 
there any way to do this once I'm past the initial setup?  I really don't 
want to reinstall the entire thing, because I'm doing it off floppies.  I 
have a 3 button Logitech Mouseman...does anyone know a way I can install it?  
Thanks.


Apt-get (dselect) wants to remove everything, by default

1999-05-15 Thread Bryan Scaringe
Another stupid dselect question:

I have upgraded my system to potato.  Now, whenever I start up dselect,
(using apt-get, and set to the unstable branch), nearly everything
is set to "remove" by default.  I'm talking about required stuff
like "bash" and "tar"!  I know I can go through by hand and fix it,
but this seems like an ass-backwards way.  If I wanted to remove a
package,
I'd have to fix everything by hand or risk trashing damn-near everything
on my system.  Considering the number of packages, that could take days.

So:  What am I doing wrong?  How do I get dselect to leave everything
as is, by default, and only deal with those packages that I specifically
want to remove/install (and the correcponding dependencies/conlicts)?

Thanks,
Bryan


Re: VIM questions

1999-05-15 Thread flip
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 10:45:48AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  > 3) In the long running debian coding standards debate on devel, it was
  > mentioned that tabs shouldn't be used to indent, but spaces instead. How do
  > I set up vim to insert n amount of spaces when I press the TAB key? Or is
  > there some other key that is used for that purpose?
  
  I disagree w/ using spaces, tabs are nice and allow each user to set their own
  tab space (i like 4, you like 3 so we each set our tabset appropriately and
  never have to edit the code)

Or, if you disagree with that sentiment, you can execute 
expand --tabs x filetoexpand > someotherfile ; mv someotherfile filetoexpand

DON'T expand a file and redirect the output to itself...you will lose
the file (learned this the hard way...makes perfect sense in retrospect :)

 - flip

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Packages.gz

1999-05-15 Thread Pollywog
Now that I upgraded to Potato, with apt-get, I am unable to use dselect to
update packages.  It wants Package.gz files but I am uncertain how
to proceed.  Can anyone suggest where I might find step-by-step information on
this?  Will I have to wait until a Potato CD is released or should I forget
about dselect and stick with apt?

thanks

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Re: Gnome

1999-05-15 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "RM" == Richard Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> xterm -ls -geometry 80x24+0+63 &
>> xterm -ls -geometry 80x24+515+63 &
>> /usr/bin/X11/fvwm2 &
>> /usr/bin/panel

RM> I have a couple of questions concerning the .xsession script.
RM> Will calling gnome session load enlightenment, and whatever other
RM> programs I have loaded?

It will load the windowmanager defined in gnome-control-center, I
believe.

RM> also, what is the "&" for at the end of each line above?

"Execute in the background, don't wait until it finishes, go to next
instruction". As .xsession is a usual sh script, this is usual shell
semantic.

RM> My .xsession looks something like this:

RM> /usr/local/bin/licq
RM> /usr/local/bin/gaim
RM> /usr/share/enlightenment/enlightenment
RM> exec gnome-session

Hmm. This should start licq, wait until it is closed, start gaim, wait
until it is closed, start E, wait until it is closed, start
gnome-session.

If you use gnome-session, you are supposed to define these extra
applications in the gnome-control-center I believe.

RM> The first few times I have shut down and restarted, everything
RM> came back just as above, with the exception that gaim was not
RM> loading, but now, when I start xwindows, E loads, along with my
RM> gnome panel, and two (sometimes three) cases of licq

The joys of a session management :-) It's purpose is to recreate the
state as it was when you logged off. So if you start programms in
.xsession, they are started from there, but the session manager will
start another copy. Roughly. I don't understand it completely.

I don't use it gnome-session because of similar problems. Maybe there
is a way to make it work correctly, but I don't know it. Check the
gnome user manual at www.gnome.org.

RM> 1. Sometimes when I shut down and restart, my panel settings are
RM> saved, and still there, but sometimes they are not, and I have to
RM> re-do my panel setup.

Maybe a bug. Do you use the latest version 1.0.5 from the staging area?

RM> 3. I had the power go out during a storm a couple of days ago,
RM> while netscape was running, now everytime I start up, netscape is
RM> started as well.

Again the session manager? Well, as I said, I know nil about this.

RM> 4. what is the meaning of life? :>

42.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: Glade for Slink

1999-05-15 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "PHBdO" == Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

PHBdO> But gnome-stage-slink (and now slink dist) doesnt have glade,
PHBdO> only potato.

It does now.

Ciao,
Martin




Re: Where is gnulibc2.1?

1999-05-15 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Sat, 15 May 1999, Eric Bass wrote:

> Is gnulibc2.1 available as a debian package somewhere?  If so, then where? 
> The [EMAIL PROTECTED] client requires it now.  Any help would be appreciated.

Have they said that they aren't putting out a glibc2 version like they did
for all the betas? I sent this question to them just this morning.

BTW, you might be interested in TkSETI:

http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~macdonal/tkseti

...RickM...


Re: timzones and libc6 in the unstable branch

1999-05-15 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 12:54:44PM -0400, Bryan Scaringe wrote:
> I was trying to update some packages off of the unstable branch,
> and noticed that required package "timezones" was selected for removal.
> Upon setting it for installation, I was greeted with the
> conflicts/dependancy screen (in dselect) wich stated that timezones
> conflicted with libc6.  However, libc6 is supposed to suggest timezones.
> As dselect put it:
>   libc6 conflicts with timezones.
>   timezones depends on libc6.
> 
> The result, libc6 was set to "remove" as were several hundred packages
> with dependancies on it.
> 
> I checked the bug reports on www.debian.org for timezones, and found
> this problem listed in the "resolved" section, which leeds me
> to believe that I am doing something wrong.
> 
> So, all you slink->potato folks, what do I do?

Upgrade to the potato libc6, which includes timezones.

Bob

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Re: Where is gnulibc2.1?

1999-05-15 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 02:00:29PM -0400, Eric Bass wrote:
> Stupid question of the day. :)
> 
> Is gnulibc2.1 available as a debian package somewhere?  If so, then where? 
> The [EMAIL PROTECTED] client requires it now.  Any help would be appreciated.

Get the libc6 package(s) in unstable.

Bob

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Re: Where is gnulibc2.1?

1999-05-15 Thread Alec Smith
glibc2.1 is basically Potato -- Debian 2.2. Take a look in there, and
beware... Things might break.



On Sat, 15 May 1999, Eric Bass wrote:

> Stupid question of the day. :)
> 
> Is gnulibc2.1 available as a debian package somewhere?  If so, then where? 
> The [EMAIL PROTECTED] client requires it now.  Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
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Where is gnulibc2.1?

1999-05-15 Thread Eric Bass
Stupid question of the day. :)

Is gnulibc2.1 available as a debian package somewhere?  If so, then where? 
The [EMAIL PROTECTED] client requires it now.  Any help would be appreciated.

Eric


Re: Kernel 2.2.x: PPP routing problem?

1999-05-15 Thread John Hasler
Kris writes:
> Problem: PPP works fine under kernel 2.0.36; under 2.2.x it connects, but
> it seems like no packets go in or out.

Ppp is known to have problems with 2.2.X.

> ...not _any_ remote IPs (including my nameservers).

How about the far end of the ppp link?

> -am and -vj make no difference.

Option names have changes and the old ones may not be supported anymore.
To turn off compression use 'nobsdcomp', 'nodeflate', and 'novj'.  I no
longer recall what '-am' did.  Check the man page.

As a long shot, try turning off all compression.
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Re: dpkg problem

1999-05-15 Thread Khalid EZZARAOUI
download the package : et
and do :
dpkg -i your_package_name.deb

after what try to remove it with apt-get like you do before


Wordperfect Display

1999-05-15 Thread Michael Laing
The characters are awfully ugly

Is there any way to improve the on-screen display?

Michael Laing


small problems after installing potato

1999-05-15 Thread Pollywog
I have had some small problems after installing potato. (I upgraded via the
web from Slink). 

The worst problem is that whenever I try to configure the newly installed
software with dselect, it tries to upgrade my custom kernel to the default
2.2.5 kernel (my custom kernel is also 2.2.5).  If I say 'no' to this, all
configuration ceases.  To configure remaining software, I must say 'yes' and
after dselect finishes, I reinstall my custom kernel and do 'lilo' and reboot.

Is there a fix for this?

thanks

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Re: apt sources line

1999-05-15 Thread Dietmar Schultz
On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Mark Wagnon wrote:

> > Then you need a sources.list line of
> > deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists proposed-updates/
> when apt-get tried to download them I got some error messages telling me
> that the files weren't plain files (or something to that effect).
> 
> What does that mean?


You should better try this:

deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian dists/proposed-updates/

Works fine for me...

-- 
Tschüß, Dietmar


lost keyboard config file

1999-05-15 Thread Monte Copeland
I actually have two problems. The first is that I have no backspace
button. A previous debian-user email had a solution to get the ALT key
to act as the META key in emacs. Well , unfortunately when I tried the
solution,  the only result was the deletion or misplacement of my X
keyboard config file. When I go to XF86Setup program it comes back with
the following  message :

"Not all of the X keyboard extension programs and configuration files
are installed. The file /usr/X11R6/lib/X11xkb/symbols/us is missing.
 "

And then it promptly exits. I have made a major BOO BOO and I haven't a
clue how to fix it due to my ignorance of the Linux system. This is VERY
aggravating not being able to use the backspace  button.

My second question is not nearly a priority as the first one. When
I boot my Linux from lilo and fsck performs a file system check on my
/dev/hda3, I get 4 or 5 lines saying I have a segmentation fault in line
such and such. Everything seems to work fine after the boot up but it is
annoying that I have a 'segmentation fault" and I don't know what to do
to fix it. Do I use fsck or e2fsck  to fix it or is it a problem to be
concerned with.


Monte Copeland
Knoxville, TN



Kernel 2.2.x: PPP routing problem?

1999-05-15 Thread Kris
Problem: PPP works fine under kernel 2.0.36; under 2.2.x it connects, but 
it seems like no packets go in or out. tcpdump only shows what looks like 
things trying to get out, but not getting anything back (really technical, 
huh?). I can ping myself (localhost & local IP), but not _any_ remote IPs 
(including my nameservers). All IRQs, nameservers, & so on are set correctly.


PPP is compiled into the kernel (of 2.2.9), and I'm using the latest 
version of PPP. It's slink, but I've tried it with apt-get update & upgrade 
using the unstable area; makes no difference. Re-installed many times. 
Booting from floppy due to a resistant HD/BIOS. I've spent about two weeks 
on this problem, scouring searchlinux.com, deja(news), the HOW-TOs, Google, 
and so on. And I reckon I've spent about £5 on phone bills trying things.


Here are various outputs while connected (my apologies if everything gets 
munged by Eudora):


# route -n
Destination   Gateway   Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
195.147.160.5 0.0.0.0   255.255.255.255 UH0  0 0 ppp0
127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0   255.255.255.255 UH0  0 0 lo
0.0.0.0   195.147.160.5 0.0.0.0 UG0  0 0 ppp0

^- I only get loopback when I do 'route add -host 127.0.0.1'

# ifconfig
loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:0
ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
  inet addr:195.147.165.134  P-t-P:195.147.160.5  Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:15 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:0

# tcpdump -i ppp0 (single telnet to my POP3 mailbox (there are no problems 
at the ISP end: it's fine within Windows))
195.147.165.134.1024 > 194.126.82.5.domain: 55880+ A? mail.globalnet.co.uk. 
(38)
195.147.165.134.1024 > 194.126.86.9.domain: 55880+ A? mail.globalnet.co.uk. 
(38)
195.147.165.134.1024 > 194.126.82.5.domain: 55880+ A? mail.globalnet.co.uk. 
(38)
195.147.165.134.1024 > 194.126.86.9.domain: 55880+ A? mail.globalnet.co.uk. 
(38)
195.147.165.134.1024 > 194.126.82.5.domain: 55880+ A? mail.globalnet.co.uk. 
(38)


# egrep -v '#|^ *$' /etc/ppp/options
asyncmap 0 authcrtscts   lock   hide-password   modem
noipdefault-am -vj   debug  lcp-echo-interval 30
lcp-echo-failure 4 noipx

-am and -vj make no difference.

# /var/log/ppp.log (start and end trimmed, only showing pppd)
Serial connection established.
Using interface ppp0
Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS2
sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1   ]
rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x5b
]

sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x5b ]
rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x5c   ]
sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x5c   ]
rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0xc6  ]
sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1   ]
rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x5d
]

sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x5d ]
rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1   ]
rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x5e   ]
sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x5e   ]
sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x277274c6]
sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ]
sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1   ]
rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0xc7  ]
sent [IPCP ConfRej id=0xc7 ]
rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x19227e9]
rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x5f 80 fd 01 01 00 0f 1a 04 78 00 18 04 78 00 15 03 2f]
rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0xc8 ]
sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0xc8 ]
rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0xc9 ]
sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0xc9 ]
sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ]
rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 ]
sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 ]
rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 ]
local  IP address 195.147.165.134
remote IP address 195.147.160.5
Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started; pid = 159
Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 159), status = 0x0

#

That's it. If you need more info then just say. I'm really lost with this, 
so if any of you live near me and know how to sort this out, then you can 
have a couple of free pints someday.


Finally, I'm _really_ sorry if this is all a waste of bandwith. (Just 
remember to snip plenty if you're kind enough to reply).


Thanks,
  Kris


timzones and libc6 in the unstable branch

1999-05-15 Thread Bryan Scaringe
I was trying to update some packages off of the unstable branch,
and noticed that required package "timezones" was selected for removal.
Upon setting it for installation, I was greeted with the
conflicts/dependancy screen (in dselect) wich stated that timezones
conflicted with libc6.  However, libc6 is supposed to suggest timezones.
As dselect put it:
  libc6 conflicts with timezones.
  timezones depends on libc6.

The result, libc6 was set to "remove" as were several hundred packages
with dependancies on it.

I checked the bug reports on www.debian.org for timezones, and found
this problem listed in the "resolved" section, which leeds me
to believe that I am doing something wrong.

So, all you slink->potato folks, what do I do?

TIA,
Bryan


Re: Minimal requirements for xwindows and slave hard disk installation

1999-05-15 Thread Michelle Maria Coelho


I installed these packages, and then ran XF86Setup. After that I ran startx,
all I got was a checkered (very fine checks) screen..No menu bar, etc..Also,
my mouse seems only to remain in row 1. What could be the problem.
Also, I did the installation for the latest version odf Debian as of
December last year. So maybe, the version are incompatible.
Also, would you know if the latest Debian kernel come with ppp support?
Cause when I installed it on another disk it and did pon (after configuring
appropriately) it complained that ppp support was not enabled for the kernel.
Thanks.
Michelle
Branden Robinson wrote:
You might appreciate the X reorganization that took
place for slink, then
-- one of its advantages is the ability to strip X down a lot more
than you
used to.
You'll need:
xfree86-common
xserver-common
xserver-vga16 (only if you want to use the XF86Setup tool)
xf86setup (only if you want to use it)
xserver- (probably xserver-svga, but this depends on
the video card)
xlib6g
xbase-clients
xfonts-base
xfonts-75dpi
xfonts-scaled (maybe)
xterm (or some other X terminal emulator, like rxvt -- which is smaller)
twm (or some other window manager, like fvwm)
I think that should do it.  If I forgot something, apt should haul
it in
for you.
If you decide to use XF86Setup, you can remove it and xserver-vga16
once
you have configured the X server.
This may look like a long list of packages, but the old X arrangement
required xbase, and xbase had a *lot* of stuff in it.
I do suggest, however, moving your entire /usr over to the new drive.
Debian does not support, for instance, /usr/bin on one disk partition
and
/usr/X11R6 on another.  (It's an issue of symbolic links mandated
in the
Policy Manual.)
--
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|   "Why do we have to hide from the police,
Debian GNU/Linux
|   Daddy?"
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|   "Because we use vi, son.  They use
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Phone: 1-317-278-2948  
Fax  : 1-317-274-9742
 


Re: making linux look bad

1999-05-15 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: making linux look bad
Date: Sat, May 15, 1999 at 08:38:58AM -0400

In reply to:David B.Teague

Quoting David B.Teague([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> 
> On Sat, 15 May 1999, tf wrote:  
> > > Hey everybody 
> 
> > > I make linux look bad.  I've been messing with it for almost 2
> > > years and have never had it running well enough to use.  So. 
> > > can someone give me a strategy to follow?  I'm obviously
> > > going about this the wrong way.  I think it would help if I got
> > > ppp working-both pon and wvdail dial out, but leave the line
> > > open and not connected to anything.  right now, my only
> > > internet connection is via windows.  
> > >
> > > "RTFM" would be warrented, probably, but I already know that
> > > one!  
> > -t
> 
> Hi t
> 
> Yes, RTFM, but these guys will try to help you if you make that
> effort.
> 
> BUT to help you, there is a strong need for you to carefully
> describe your hardware and software: motherboard, CPU, RAM, disk
> interface, amount of disk, video card, video card memory size,
> modem, Debian distribution version, where you are getting your
> distribution, (if a CD, who the vendor is, or if from a web site,
> perhaps from whence you are down loading) 
> 
> As important as the hardware information, you should be quite
> specific about the problems you are experiencing. Error messages
> would be a big help.
> 
> You will find this list to be thick with really good experts who
> are willing to help, given the needed information! 
> 
> Lots of luck,
> 

In addition to David's comments, you could also go to www.debian.org
and look tru the archives of this list.  There have been 'many'
problems solved on this list, and the answers are in the archives!

If you find the answer there and solve some of your problems your
confidence will rise, along with with you Linux/Debian knowledge.
It's a win win!


-- 
Real Users hate Real Programmers.
___
Wayne T. Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


[off topic] Where have all the remailers gone

1999-05-15 Thread Damon Muller
Hi Folks,

Apologies for the slightly OT posting, but I was playing around with
premail (which doesn't work), and decided to create myself another
nym.alias.net address. Used to have one years ago, but it dies thru lack
of maintentnce.

I seem to have hit a snag tho... none of the finger addresses (ie.
kiwi.cs.berkeley.edu) or web sites I could find have an up-to-date list
of anonymous remailers.

It's a while (a year or more) since I last investigated this sort of
thing... have they all dissapeared? Does anyone know of any up-to-date
lists of remailers? I'd hate to think that such a thing wasn't available
anymore!

Cheers;

damon

--
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([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | As my head fell in the basket,
Network Administrator | And was everyone dancing on the casket...
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Re: Emacs and suidunregister

1999-05-15 Thread Rob Browning
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I read the man page for suidregister, and it seems to me that when I
> purged Emacs19 and Emacs20 (and all related binaries), not
> everything was cleaned-up.  It also seems to me that this might be a
> bug.
> 
> Can anyone confirm, or suggest what I did wrong?  (I don't think it
> will be any problem to correct.)

This was a bug in the way I was calling suidunregister in the emacs20
postinst.  I *think* it's fixed in the newer packages.  If you have a
reasonably inexpensive net connection, try installing the current
emacs20 and then purging it.  If that doesn't fix the problem, let me
know.

If you pay for downloads by the byte, then let me know and I'll
investigate it here first.

Thanks.

-- 
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Re: ssh @ pseudo ttys

1999-05-15 Thread Rob Browning
Ian Keith Setford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just installed a new box but when I try to ssh in I recieve this
> error:
> 
> Warning: Remote host failed or refused to allocate a pseudo tty
> 
> Thisonly happens with sshas I can telnet in and out with no
> problems.  Anybody know where the problems is?  Or how I can turn
> off the pseudo ttys altogether?

My experience was that I had to recompile my kernels with psuedo-tty
support (this meant that I had to have a new enough kernel).  This was
a fairly aggravating problem for one remote install.  It might be nice
if the preinst warned about this, especially if it can check in /proc
to see if ssh is likely to be hosed after the install.

-- 
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Re: What to do with a tape drive?

1999-05-15 Thread Rob Browning
Carl Mummert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The easiest way to do incremental backups is to use a prewritten
> package.  I used 'tob' for a while, and it worked fine, although you
> may have to spend an hour or two configuring it the first time.

Also well worth investigating is amanda (www.amanda.org).  It's
probably more complex than most single machine users need, but it's
certainly a solution you're unlikely to outgrow.  I use it both at
home and at work.  However, it does require that you be willing to
accomodate its model...

-- 
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Re: disabling sshd and gpm

1999-05-15 Thread Rune Linding Raun
i dont understand the removal at all its sounds crazy
ssh is THE way of remote login
and gpm is very essential in handling a virtual term

On 14-May-99 Michael Procario wrote:
> You only need to remove it from /etc/rc?.d. That way if you want to
> turn it back on at some later time the actual script still lives in 
> /etc/init.d.
> 
> I do not understand your statement about some other package using the gpm 
> library.  I thought the gpm library allowed applications to talk to the gpm
> server, so the server needs to run for the library to be useful.
> 
>  
> __
> 
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Department of Physics  PHONE: 412/268-3887
> Carnegie Mellon University  
> 
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> __

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Re: PPP problems.

1999-05-15 Thread John Hasler
Daniel Sladic writes:
> Anyone know offhand what is causing this problem or what I can do to
> figure out what is the problem?

Did you run pppconfig?  If so, post your /etc/chatscripts/provider,
/etc/ppp/peers/provider, and the output of the 'plog' command.  If not, put
the options file back the way it was and run pppconfig.
-- 
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Re: PPP woes

1999-05-15 Thread John Hasler
David Teague writes:
> ppp has not been in default kernels I use.

Only if you did not select it as a module when you installed.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI


Re: VIM questions

1999-05-15 Thread shaleh
> 
> I have a few questions regarding VIM that have been nagging at me for a
> while, and I'm hoping someone can help me out...
> 
> 1) For some reason vim inists on showing file stats at the bottom of the
> screen whenever I edit a file. It isn't too bad normally, but when I
> invoked from mutt it waits for me to press a key. Very annoying. How do I
> get rid of that behaviour?
> 

Never seen this behaviour.

> 2) How do I make use the dark background syntax settings? I've set
> background to dark, but it makes no difference - it still inists on using
> such groovy combinations as dark blue on black. In the past I have edited
> /usr/syntax/vim directly, commenting out the dark settings, and changing
> the colours in the light scheme more to my liking. However, it tends to get
> hosed every time I upgrade vim, which is a PITA. How do I set up vim to use
> my personal colour settings? (FWIW I think the doc system on vim is awful -
> the one thing I really don't like about it)
> 

Make a ~ entry for vim rather than using the global settings.

> 3) In the long running debian coding standards debate on devel, it was
> mentioned that tabs shouldn't be used to indent, but spaces instead. How do
> I set up vim to insert n amount of spaces when I press the TAB key? Or is
> there some other key that is used for that purpose?
> 

I disagree w/ using spaces, tabs are nice and allow each user to set their own
tab space (i like 4, you like 3 so we each set our tabset appropriately and
never have to edit the code)


VIM questions

1999-05-15 Thread Dave Swegen
I have a few questions regarding VIM that have been nagging at me for a
while, and I'm hoping someone can help me out...

1) For some reason vim inists on showing file stats at the bottom of the
screen whenever I edit a file. It isn't too bad normally, but when I
invoked from mutt it waits for me to press a key. Very annoying. How do I
get rid of that behaviour?

2) How do I make use the dark background syntax settings? I've set
background to dark, but it makes no difference - it still inists on using
such groovy combinations as dark blue on black. In the past I have edited
/usr/syntax/vim directly, commenting out the dark settings, and changing
the colours in the light scheme more to my liking. However, it tends to get
hosed every time I upgrade vim, which is a PITA. How do I set up vim to use
my personal colour settings? (FWIW I think the doc system on vim is awful -
the one thing I really don't like about it)

3) In the long running debian coding standards debate on devel, it was
mentioned that tabs shouldn't be used to indent, but spaces instead. How do
I set up vim to insert n amount of spaces when I press the TAB key? Or is
there some other key that is used for that purpose?

Any illumination will be much appreciated

Cheers
Dave

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netscape help

1999-05-15 Thread Andrea Merello
Hello World!
>
> When, in X Windows, I try to start netscape 3.04
> it says :"Can't open display !!"
> What can I do ? Please Help me




Re: netscape

1999-05-15 Thread Petru Paler
> Hello World!
> 
> When, in X Windows, I try to start netscape 3.04
> it says :"Can't open display !!"
> What can I do ? Please Help me

just start netscape *AFTER* your start X Windows.



Emacs and suidunregister

1999-05-15 Thread sgore
I'm getting this from cron:

> /etc/cron.daily/suidmanager:
> File /usr/lib/emacs/20.3/i386-debian-linux-gnu/movemail registered but not
> installed
> File /usr/lib/emacs/19.34/i386-debian-linux/movemail registered but not
> installed

I read the man page for suidregister, and it seems to me that when I purged
Emacs19 and Emacs20 (and all related binaries), not everything was cleaned-up.
It also seems to me that this might be a bug.

Can anyone confirm, or suggest what I did wrong?
(I don't think it will be any problem to correct.)

Steve


netscape

1999-05-15 Thread Andrea Merello
Hello World!

When, in X Windows, I try to start netscape 3.04
it says :"Can't open display !!"
What can I do ? Please Help me

Andrea





netscape

1999-05-15 Thread Andrea Merello
Hello World!

When, in X Windows, I try to start netscape 3.04
it says :"Can't open display !!"
What can I do ? Please Help me

Andrea



netscape

1999-05-15 Thread Andrea Merello
Hello World!

When, in X Windows, I try to start netscape 3.04
it says :"Can't open display !!"
What can I do ? Please Help me

Andrea


PPP problems.

1999-05-15 Thread Daniel Sladic

 Up until now I have been using a Redhat 5.2 system and haven't had
problems running PPP over a modem. I want to switch over to a Debian
system but I can't get PPP to run for some strange reason. Here's some
info. Hopefully someone can help.

 The Redhat system is using kernel 2.2.5 and pppd 2.3.5. Here's the
entries in my options file:

defaultroute
lock
crtscts

 The Debian system is a stock 2.0 system (I want to use PPP to upgrade
once it's working) with kernel 2.0.34 and pppd 2.3.5. I added the
defaultroute line to the options file (also tried without it) and
turned off auth on the command line. (Also tried with it.) What happens
when I try to connect? Using the debug option, my pppd is sending
LCP config requests but eventually times out. I KNOW ppp is running on
the remote end since I log in manually and it's the same place I connect
to using the Redhat system. Using the 'silent' option prevents the
timeout, but doesn't provide a solution.

 Anyone know offhand what is causing this problem or what I can do to
figure out what is the problem?

 Thanks,
 Dan.


Re: dselect and the unstable branch

1999-05-15 Thread Khalid EZZARAOUI
try to see if you can change some files here or get the old dselect setting :
/var/lib/dpkg


Umm... slink and potato bug?

1999-05-15 Thread Jim B
The version of lsof that I see in the slink and potato dists is only usable
on kernels up to 2.0.35.  Yet slink is a 2.0.36 kernel, and potato is a
2.2.x kernel... which means the lsof included with the distro is unusable.

Is this a distro bug or am I just missing something?



Re: making linux look bad

1999-05-15 Thread David B.Teague


On Sat, 15 May 1999, tf wrote:  
> > Hey everybody 

> > I make linux look bad.  I've been messing with it for almost 2
> > years and have never had it running well enough to use.  So. 
> > can someone give me a strategy to follow?  I'm obviously
> > going about this the wrong way.  I think it would help if I got
> > ppp working-both pon and wvdail dial out, but leave the line
> > open and not connected to anything.  right now, my only
> > internet connection is via windows.  
> >
> > "RTFM" would be warrented, probably, but I already know that
> > one!  
> -t

Hi t

Yes, RTFM, but these guys will try to help you if you make that
effort.

BUT to help you, there is a strong need for you to carefully
describe your hardware and software: motherboard, CPU, RAM, disk
interface, amount of disk, video card, video card memory size,
modem, Debian distribution version, where you are getting your
distribution, (if a CD, who the vendor is, or if from a web site,
perhaps from whence you are down loading) 

As important as the hardware information, you should be quite
specific about the problems you are experiencing. Error messages
would be a big help.

You will find this list to be thick with really good experts who
are willing to help, given the needed information! 

Lots of luck,

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (Hope this qualifies:) 



making linux look bad

1999-05-15 Thread tf
Hey everybody

I make linux look bad.  I've been messing with it for almost 2 years and have 
never had it running well enough to use.  So.  can 
someone give me a strategy to follow?  I'm obviously going about this  the 
wrong way.  I think it would help if I got ppp 
working-both pon and wvdail dial out, but leave the line open and not connected 
to anything.  right now, my only internet 
connection is via windows.

"RTFM" would be warrented, probably, but I already know that one!
-t


Glibc 2.1 Applixware problem solved

1999-05-15 Thread Phillip Deackes
Those of you who use Applixware and have had problems when you have
glibc 2.1 on your system might like to know that the fix is as follows:

Add this line to your ~/axhome/ax_prof (mine is ax_prof4) file:

axGFSName:tcp/host:7001

Replace 'host' with your machine's hostname.

The fix makes the previous fix of adding a spurious directory to the
config file
in /opt/applix/axdata/fontmetrics/gallium/fs/ unnecessary.

Hope this helps someone.


--
Phillip Deackes
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Linux (Potato) 


Re: 2 network cards revisited

1999-05-15 Thread Khalid EZZARAOUI
use :
dmesg
and look for info about eth0, eth1 or the name of your card


Re: Mouse installation

1999-05-15 Thread Khalid EZZARAOUI
use :
XF86Setup


Re: automatic load of modules ?

1999-05-15 Thread Khalid EZZARAOUI
use modconf too
if your card's driver is in module.


Re: PPP woes

1999-05-15 Thread David B.Teague

On Fri, 14 May 1999, William R Pentney wrote:

> A couple of questions.
> 
> 1) I have not yet recompiled my Debian kernel. (no lectures,
> please ...)  Is PPP built into the default kernel? 
> 
> 2) I am having problems getting chat to speak to my modem. It
> simply isn't recognizing it. Is there some configuration I must
> perform before chat will work? Any ideas? 

Bill

ppp has not been in default kernels I use. You will need to
recompile a kernel to get ppp either as a module or built into the
kernel. I recommend building it in, but many do not agree. No big
thing, I think.

I seem to recall that nothing about ppp works until you have 
kernel support. Try that then see if things will work for you.
I got mine working with difficutly in 0.93 and 1.1, but 2.0 was
much easier. It won't be difficult for you.

Ping the list back if you continue to have problems once you
recompile the kernel. I will try to help you, as many have
helped me.

BTW -- You will find the kernel package easier than bare-handed
kernel recompile. Besides, I am under the impression that there
are some things in the kernel how-to that aren't quite correct.

Will someone else please remark on kernel compiles?

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (Hope this qualifies:)


Re: What happened to the list?

1999-05-15 Thread David B.Teague
On Fri, 14 May 1999, Matthew Wade Roberts wrote:
> 
> I was getting list mail for about a week and then it abruptly
> stopped.  Did something happen?  Please respond to me since
> a response to the list will obviously not get through!

Matt

Did something happen to make your system reject mail for
a period of time (bounce, what have you)? The mailing list
will unsubscribe you automatically if that happens. 

This happens to me occasionally when my system hangs.

To resubscribe, visit www.debian.org, or use the command
line incantation:

mail -s subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null


--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
(Thanks guys!)


> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 


Re: missing files: 'no' and library panel

1999-05-15 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
>-Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> when trying to compile a few programs writen for gtk (to run under
> gnome) i got mesages that /bin/sh: couldn't find no ...

Hm. That sounds like a mistake in the configuration scripts.
It seems like it couldn't find a program but then tries to
run it (with the name 'no').

> and "... -lpanel ... can't find library".
> anyone knows where i can find these to files?

'apt-get install libncurses4-dev' perhaps

-- 
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service attack. It is commonly disguised as an operating system.
The easiest fix is to install a freenix.


Re: unzip

1999-05-15 Thread David B.Teague


On Sat, 15 May 1999, Shao Zhang wrote:
>   Is there a version of unzip which supports encryption?

Shao

You should find zip-crypt and  unzip-crypt in non-US. On my
system, I find:

$/var/local/debian/debian-non-US/dists/slink/non-US/binary-i386[1]$ls*zip*
bzip_0.21-3.1.debunzip-crypt_5.32-1.deb  zip-crypt_2.20-1.deb

Hope this helps.

--David
David Teague, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian GNU/Linux Because software support is free, timely,
 useful, technically accurate, and friendly.
 (Hope this qualifies on all these accounts;)


Hardware working with Linux

1999-05-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Good morning fans,

I have noticed that several HOWTO's are way out-dated.  For example
the Hardware-HOWTO is from July 1998.  Same goes for the
Ethernet-HOWTO etc.  Thus they doesn't cover hardware which is
supported by Linux 2.2.x and newer.

However, there is a new service which has been opened to the Linux
community, called linuxhardware.net.  The maintainer, Mark Griskey,
told me that it is his goal to provide a list of user experiences with
hardware.  Thus the kernel source is not compiled to produce such a
list.

This is why I would like you to check out the website
http://www.linuxhardware.net/ and submit your experiences with your
hardware.  All Linux users would benefit from this since they could
easily find out if their hardware works well with Linux.

This is what Marc told me:

  Joey, thanks for the input.  However, although this site strives to
  collect as much information about harware as possible, the goal is
  to provide a list of user experiences with hardware.  If a piece of
  hardware is not mentioned, that is because no one submitted any
  information about it.  The goal is provide listing of people's
  experiences with a piece of hardware, complete with additional
  comments and updates chronicaling everything that was done to get it
  to work properly.  The site will only have as many items as users
  have submitted.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: Display issues

1999-05-15 Thread deblists
On 13 May, Pollywog wrote:
> 
> On 13-May-99 Brian Servis wrote:
>> So they(.xinitrc and .xsession) are the same but originated from
>> different camps(startx and xdm).  The Debian way is to use .xsession. 
>> To be safe you can soft link .xinitrc to .xsession.
> 
> I dislike having xdm start when I start the machine, so I removed the xdm
> stuff from init.  Then, much to my surprise, kdm started when I started the
> machine, so I removed that from init.  All is well now, and I get a plain,
> simple console, just the way I like it.
> 
> I will put .xinitrc back, just to be safe.
> 
> thanks
>

What you're supposed to do, really, is change the file /etc/inittab and
set the default runlevel to 2 ( I think that is the runlevel for non-X
startup, and 3 the runlevel for startup with X) :-)

Regards and happy hacking,

--Tim :-)


 
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FW: Kernel 2.2.7 and Sound

1999-05-15 Thread Ralf Comtesse
Hello,

I have just upgraded to Kernel 2.2.7 and compiled sound support as a
module. 

When I try to play a sound file, I get sth like

splay: Failed to open sound device.

/dev/dsp[1] and /dev/audio[1] exsist. The logfile shows: 

May 15 11:18:34 socrates modprobe: can't locate module sound-slot-0
May 15 11:18:34 socrates modprobe: can't locate module sound-service-0-3

My /etc/conf.mod says: 

alias char-major-14 soundcore

It seems to have to do with the dma and irqs of the SB-SoundCard, since
they are not the defaults. 

How can I set the sound card up correctly. I guess, I have to give some
options in /etc/conf.mod, but I could not find any hints on how to do
that. What is the correct syntax of the option line? Any help would be
greatly apprecitated.

Thanks
Ralf




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Re: Debian 2.0 Install

1999-05-15 Thread Kirk Noonan
You probably want to use the multiple cd option. Your CD-Rom is most likely
/dev/cdrom or /dev/hdb for ATAPI or /dev/scd0 for SCSI. I would recommend the
KDE desktop manager, as you will probably find it very familiar and there is
alot of good documentation built in to it. I'm not sure if it automatically
gets installed. I usually have to install it after the rest is completed. You
can install it with dselect. Just hit a '/' in the selection screen to search
the database for all of the KDE packages. You theoretically don't need them
all, but it doesn't hurt anything. The best way to start your new kde is to
change to your new home directory ' cd ' with no arguments and create a file
called '.xinitrc' you can use 'ee' to do that, as it is the easiest editor and
is installed. .xinitrc should contain the line ' kde' . After that, just type
'startx' after you log in and it will start. There are plenty of better or
more elegant ways to start your kde, but this is the easiest (in my opinion).
Good Luck, and have fun.
Kirk

 On Fri, 14 May 1999, Denis A wrote:
> I'm a Linux beginer and i try since 2 days to install linux system on my
> IBM machine. All process run well until the dselect program. I don't
> know there what to do. I suppose that all packages are located on CDrom.
> SO I
> choose Access 'CDROM'.
> Then i got the message "Insert the CD-ROM' and Enter the block device
> name."
> I don't know yet what is the bock name and i supposed that by hit the
> Enter key, i will get the list as prviously had during kernel and based
> program. But no. So i reinstall since 2 days about 10 times  Linux and
> no success. I only want to have a Xwindows (graphical environment with
> Linux.)
> Please Help me.
> Brgds Denis
> 
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Re: Kernel 2.2.1

1999-05-15 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Kernel 2.2.1
Date: Fri, May 14, 1999 at 11:07:11PM +0200

In reply to:R.Feenstra

Quoting R.Feenstra([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Hello again :)
> 
> Is kernel 2.2.1 still regarded as Slink ?

Hope not!  Kernel 2.2.1 had problems and AFAIR wasn't included with
slink.  The kernel is now up to 2.2.9 and it flies!!


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Re: clock

1999-05-15 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: clock
Date: Fri, May 14, 1999 at 10:43:23PM +0100

In reply to:Patrick Kirk

Quoting Patrick Kirk([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> What is the man page for info on setting the clock to salmon.maths.tcd.ie 
> which is a time server near a lovely pub in Dublin?
> 
> Patrick
> 

man netdate ought to take care of it.  Now as to what the pub time is,
that depends on how many pints of the 'Great Dark Brew' have been
downed.
  I had a great time learning to drink that, my last time in Dublin.

HTH

Wayne

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Re: update-menus, does it work? UPDATE 2

1999-05-15 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: Re: update-menus, does it work? UPDATE 2
Date: Fri, May 14, 1999 at 03:53:16PM -0800

In reply to:Adam Shand

Quoting Adam Shand([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > > It may not be pretty or proper but it seems to work.  Putting this is 
> > > either
> > > ~/.menu/ or /etc/menu and running update-menus as a user or root causes 
> > > the
> > > menu item to appear properly.  Hope this helps.
> > 
> > Right!!  I found this out at 2 AM this morning!
> > 
> > Two kudos tho, it works here in only /etc/menu or ~/.menu. It doesn't
> > seem to work in /root/.menu.
> > 
> > Checking the output of update-menus doesn't even indicate it even checks
> > /root/.menu.  So I have not been able to remove the netscape entries
> > from Apps/net, yet.
> 
> i was poking around here and found this in the man page for update-menus.
> 
> ~/.menu/*
> Menu files added by the user. (Isn't read if 
>   root runs update-menus)
> 
> so it looks like root isn't supposed to be able to do this.
> 

  I didn't read it like that.  I thought it meant that if ~user/.menu
had an item it wouldn't be picked up by root running update-menus.  It
never occured to me that it wouldn't allow root to do it for him/her
self. 

 Shades of RedHat, root isn't smart enough to run Netscape
(because it's a Security issue) and just to rub it in he can't remove 
it from his X menu!

 
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Re: automatic load of modules ?

1999-05-15 Thread Wayne Topa

Subject: automatic load of modules ?
Date: Fri, May 14, 1999 at 11:05:39PM +0200

In reply to:R.Feenstra

Quoting R.Feenstra([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> hello
> 
> I finally got my SB AWE32 pnp soundcard running on my slink system
> loading the module with modprobe.
> Is there a way to load the module automaticly ? Without including it in the
> kernel I tried that but i can't get the card to work without isapnp
> 
> regards Rene

 man modules tells all you need.  Look in /etc/modules for examples.

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info

1999-05-15 Thread Charles Demers




Hi, maybe you can help me. I am a new linux 
user, and bought debian 2.1.
But each time i try to install it, my computer 
locks up, and i have to cold boot to restart. Each and every time, it locks up 
after sdb: cdrom atapi (or somethimg like that). Hopefully, you can tell me ow 
to fix this problem, so that i can run it.
Thanks you
Charles Demers


Re: Shell for gunzip so I don't have to remember?

1999-05-15 Thread Krzysztof Ogrodnik
Dnia Fri, 14 May 1999 14:18:32 -0700, napisałeś:

>On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 06:52:39PM -0500, André Bell wrote:
>> ...now if I can only figure out which of the hundreds of files is the
>> executable...
>
>Use ls -l and look for the executable bit (x) or use ls --color and look for
>the green ones.
>
>-- 
>Ray
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Hi,

Maybe some of these aliases will help you.

alias lsx='ls -F|grep "\*$"| cut -d \* -f 1|column'

alias ll='ls -l|cut -b "31-41,55-"|column'
alias lsd='ls -F| grep /|cut -d / -f 1|column'
alias lsh='ls -A|grep "^\..*"|column'

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Re: Error in kernel compile

1999-05-15 Thread wcurry
I had identical problems compiling the same kernel on my potato system.
I was only successful after I reinstalled gcc2.7.2.3 and made sure 
/etc/alternatives pointed cc at it (dont forget to go into the top level
Makefile to change the compiler to cc).

Lance Hoffmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am using kpkg to compile (or trying to compile) kernel 2.2.5.  I have used 
> this before with success but I am currently having
> problems and am wondering if someone can help me figure out where to start on 
> fixing this error.
> 
> ../../gcc/haifa-sched.c:6749: Internal compiler error in function 
> schedule_block
> cpp:  output pipe has been closed
> make[3] *** [swapfile.o] Error 1
> make[2] *** [first_rule] Error 2
> make[1] *** [_dir_mm] Error 2
> make: *** [build] Error 2
> 
> I don't have a clue what all of this means!


Re: ESS1868

1999-05-15 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, 15 May 1999, add|ct|on wrote:

> i have the same sound card and i never could make my sound work properly
> until i upgraded to a 2.2.x kernel. they have great support for ESS cards.

Same sound card, works fine for me since 2.0.30.

I use isapnp after using windows, (only for those short gaming cravings)
so that may be a help..

kernel config section follows:

#
# Sound
#
CONFIG_SOUND=m
# CONFIG_PAS is not set
CONFIG_SB=y
# CONFIG_ADLIB is not set
# CONFIG_GUS is not set
# CONFIG_MPU401 is not set
# CONFIG_UART6850 is not set
# CONFIG_PSS is not set
# CONFIG_GUS16 is not set
# CONFIG_GUSMAX is not set
# CONFIG_MSS is not set
# CONFIG_SSCAPE is not set
# CONFIG_TRIX is not set
# CONFIG_MAD16 is not set
# CONFIG_CS4232 is not set
# CONFIG_MAUI is not set
CONFIG_AUDIO=y
CONFIG_MIDI=y
CONFIG_YM3812=y
SBC_BASE=220
SBC_IRQ=5
SBC_DMA=1
SB_DMA2=5
SB_MPU_BASE=330
SB_MPU_IRQ=-1
DSP_BUFFSIZE=65536
# CONFIG_LOWLEVEL_SOUND is not set


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apt saves the day :)

1999-05-15 Thread Pollywog
I started downloading potato this morning, with apt.
A while ago, when I had 1 hour or so of downloading left, KDE locks up, but
the download continues for a while.

I had to reboot the machine from my laptop and started the entire process
again and I get a very pleasant surprise.  Apt-get does not start over, but
picks up right where it left off.  Wonderful :)

12 hr download, btw.


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Re: ESS1868

1999-05-15 Thread add|ct|on
i have the same sound card and i never could make my sound work properly
until i upgraded to a 2.2.x kernel. they have great support for ESS cards.


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help, I got sucked into /dev/null


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From: budi w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 1999 3:06 PM
Subject: ESS1868


> i  have ESS 1868 soundcard but slink can't detect it .
> i've tried to recompile my kernel sound modules installed and it still
> didn' work
> then i use oss but it's not free :(
> any one can help me pl?
>
> regards
> budi wibowo
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ESS1868

1999-05-15 Thread budi w
i  have ESS 1868 soundcard but slink can't detect it .
i've tried to recompile my kernel sound modules installed and it still
didn' work
then i use oss but it's not free :(
any one can help me pl?

regards
budi wibowo
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dpkg problem

1999-05-15 Thread Brian Schramm
I have a package that has the following code in dselect:
RI--  

Package name et 80b2-8

I cannot install or remove this package.  It is stoping me from using apt-get
to update some files for me.  I have tried everything that I can think of to
install or remove this package.  I have used dpkg, dselect, apt-get with all
the opthions that I could find.  How do I corect this so I can use apt-get?

Here is the error message I get from using apt-get:

schramms:/home/schrambm# apt-get -yfm install
Updating package status cache...done
Checking system integrity...ok
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  et
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 38 not upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0b of archives. After unpacking 314k will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
dpkg: error processing et (--remove):
 Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
 reinstall it before attempting a removal.
Errors were encountered while processing:
 et
E: Sub-process returned an error code
schramms:/home/schrambm#
 
Thanks for your help.

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Re: missing files: 'no' and library panel

1999-05-15 Thread zephyr1
i wish i knew. i'm having the same problem and i can't find out what it is, 
either. if you find out please let me know!


Re: Upgrading to Potato over dial-up connection

1999-05-15 Thread zephyr1
i love potato :)


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