Re: setting the date with date [ Netdate ]

1999-11-05 Thread Peter Ross
On 05-Nov-1999, Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter Ross said:
> > There is no difference between netdate and ntpdate, however the xntp
> > package provides some more services that allow a clock to be kept in
> > sync with another clock continuously.
> 
> Right, but, as I said in my original question, ntpdate is a package unto
> itself.  I don't know about the xntp package (according to my machines, it
> doesn't exist), but the ntp package recommends the ntpdate package.
> 
> So if netdate is in one of the standard/base networking packages and netdate
> is identical to ntpdate, why does the ntpdate package exist?
> 
OK.  You must be running potato, because ntpdate is not a seperate
package in slink but part of xntp3.

Sorry for the confusion.

Maybe the difference is that ntpdate can only connect to NTP (network
time protocol) servers, while most (all?) UNIX machines run a different
service which netdate connects to.  I think this is what is happening
after reading the respective docs.

Pete


Re: kernel upgrade options

1999-11-05 Thread Mike Nachlinger
On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, John wrote:

This may be a dumb question but are you linking your "kernel-sources-2.2.xx" 
directory to "linux"? The kernel patch system expects a directory of "./linux".



> on 05 Nov 99, Matthew Gregan wrote...
> 
> >
> >On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 06:07:31PM +, John wrote:
> >
> >> I've obtained patches 2 to 5 but now have a problem in applying them.
> >> My /usr/src had only 'kernel-sources-2.2.1' (and the .tar.gz source which
> >> I'm leaving there for the time being) until I moved 'patch-2.2.xx' from the
> >> download site.
> >> When I do 'zcat patch2.gz | patch -p0' I get:-
> >
> >Cd into your kernel source dir, and use '-p1' instead.
> >
> I couldn't get this to work. My patches were in /usr/src and I got 'no such
> file or directory', so I moved them into the kernel source dir. and did -p0
> thinking that should be right. No luck, so I did -p1 - there was action, but
> only 33 times 'Hunk xx failed at '  and quite a few 'succeeded' at
>  with fuzz 1 or 2 and a final line 'patch:  malformed patch at line
> 2121: s'.
> 
> After looking at the .rej's, which were enlightening but not helpful with 
> the problem, and not finding anything else to guide me, I tried to apply 
> patch 3 expecting some message indicating it was out of order. It, in
> fact, worked partially and said '2 out of 11 hunks failed'. Emboldened,
> I did patch 4 ( '1 out of 2 failed') and then 5 which seemed OK except
> for a final 'malformed patch at line 146'.
> 
> There was no real result from the exercise other than a lot of new
> knowledge. My 2.2.1 came from a Debian Official CD and the patches
> from ftp.kernel.org (no apparent problem with the download), so I
> presume my difficulty lies elsewhere.
> 
> >> I discover the quoted lines are the first three text lines of the patch,
> >> and the fourth is I presume machine instructions viz,
> >>   @@-1403,6 +1403,13@@
> >
> >These numbers are actually line numbers - it's telling patch the general
> >location of where to look in the file. I think the format is like this:
> >
> >- look at line 1403
> >- 6 lines are to be removed
> >- look at the new line 1403
> >- 13 lines are to be added
> >
> >Someone please correct me if I messed that up. :-)
> >
> Thank you - I've had a look, and think I can see what is being done.
> I don't understand the technicalities but can what is being changed.
> 
> >> Can anyone help - I feel I understand what is required generally,=20
> >> but not specifically. Is it that I don't have a directory called
> >> Linux in /usr/src? (everything I read seems to assume I have)
> >> I don't mind messing-up things and having to reinstall, but it
> >> wouldn't help I'd still not be able to apply patches.=20
> >
> >You could rename your kernel-source-2.2.1 to whatever the patch is
> >expecting and run patch again with the arguments you used, but you are
> >better off to cd into the the dir and use '-p1', since everybody seems
> >to have different names for their top level directory. :-)
> >
> My problem here is that I do not know what the patch is expecting. If
> I renamed to 'Linux-2.2.1' would it affect other things, maybe creating
> more difficulties? 
> 
> Another mystery to me arises from the fact that the command lines
> suggested in all the literature I've seem do not appear to say what
> is to be patched. Yet, according to O'Reilly's Linux in a Nutshell it's
> based on 'patch [options] [original [patchfile]].
> 
> Any suggestions where I should stumble next? Will the patches still be
> OK after what I've tried so far. My installation is appears undamaged 
>  - seems indestructible.
> 
> Grateful for any help. I could, despite the online time involved, 
> download 2.2.13 but would learn nothing further here and would
> have to face the problem later 2.4 if I want to keep up to date.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> 
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PING error

1999-11-05 Thread dodjee

Hello,

I think I screwed up something.
Has anyone ever seen the error :
"sendTo: Operation not permitted. wrote localhost 64 chars, ret=-1"
Or
"sendto: Network is unreachable. wrote hostname.bla.bla 64 chars, ret=1" ?
when pinging to localhost or hostname

ifconfig gives:
lo:  Inet addr  127.0.0.1,   Bcast  127.255.255.255,   mask   255.255.255.0

route gives:
localnet,   * ,255.255.255.0  ,   U  ,0   ,   0   ,   1   ,   lo


With regards,

dodjee 


Help: dhcp client problems

1999-11-05 Thread Albert Hurd



Several times in the last little while, Netscape and ping have had problems,
either hanging or responding with Unknown.  I then booted up in Windows95,
and no problem.   Then returning to Debian (1.3.1 still!) and the problem is
solved.  I am on @HOME cable. They tell me that their modem is in  constant
communication with the software  and that the Windows DHCP module is
effectively reseting the modem.  Apparently my DHCP client is periodically
failing. They say that some RH installs also have this problem ( this is why they
don't support Linux). Apparently  a DHCP client that has "pump7" would be desirable.  Can
anyone tell me what to do.  Before you tell me to do so, I should say that   I
installed Debian 2.0 on another drive, but have another problem--it won't
recognize that I have an ethernet card (3c509, I think), so I would like to get
1.3.1 working for the time being. Thanks.

 -- 
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richiesta driver

1999-11-05 Thread Vincenzo Striano




mi scuso anticipatamente per il disturbo, vorrei 
sapere se potresti fornirmi i driver per il touchpad del mio vecchio notebook 
PMD 5000 ( 486 DUAL SCAN) anno 1995 fornito dalla DUAL PENTIMEDIA GROUP, ti 
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[thaths@netscape.com: Re: Compiling ATA/66 support into the kernel?]

1999-11-05 Thread Rev GRC Sperry
I compiled it into my 2.3.24 kernel the other day. I haven't messed with it
yet since I run linux on a separate drive and just have the 'doze partition
on the ata/66 drive. It detected the drive anyway.

-Hellatio

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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 11:35:00 -0800
From: Sudhakar Chandrasekharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686)
To: aphro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Compiling ATA/66 support into the kernel?

aphro proclaimed:
> use 2.3.x kernel for ata/66

Does it support booting off a ata/66 drive?  The patches for 2.2.13 say
that booting off of ata/66 drive is not supported.

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Re: October GNOME for slink.

1999-11-05 Thread Daniel Ferrante


Hi Folks,

I am trying to install Debian 2.1 in my computer. I have an
Adaptec 2940U2W SCSI Host adapter and Linux is hanging right after
detecting it...

Any help?!

Thanks,

Daniel.

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Re: kernel upgrade options

1999-11-05 Thread Matthew Gregan
On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 05:57:58PM +, John wrote:
> I couldn't get this to work. My patches were in /usr/src and I got 'no
> such file or directory', so I moved them into the kernel source dir.
> and did -p0 thinking that should be right. No luck, so I did -p1 -
> there was action, but only 33 times 'Hunk xx failed at '  and
> quite a few 'succeeded' at  with fuzz 1 or 2 and a final line
> 'patch:  malformed patch at line 2121: s'.

Okay, it sounds like your kernel source isn't a pure one (I'm guessing
here). Patch is quite smart, and can patch files even if they're
different to what it's expecting, although it'll only work if they're a
little different, not a huge amount.

It might be easier to download a fresh kernel source tarball from one of
the kernel.org mirrors and try from there. You could download the
latest, so you don't have to do any patching - but if you want to learn
to patch, download an older one and apply the patches you've got to it.
The only problem is a kernel source tarball is about 13MB.

I'm pretty sure the source you extracted from the Debian package should
be a standard kernel though, so maybe there's something messed up. rm
the source dir and extract it again, then try patching it...

> After looking at the .rej's, which were enlightening but not helpful
> with the problem, and not finding anything else to guide me, I tried
> to apply patch 3 expecting some message indicating it was out of
> order. It, in fact, worked partially and said '2 out of 11 hunks
> failed'. Emboldened, I did patch 4 ( '1 out of 2 failed') and then 5
> which seemed OK except for a final 'malformed patch at line 146'.

The problem with patch is if it fails, generally you can consider that
kernel source trashed and kill it and start over. If you really know
what you're doing, the above isn't true, but for most people it's far
easier to just start over than try and reverse the failed patches and
find out what's gone wrong...

If you've only applied one patch and it failed, then you're pretty safe
to reverse it (option -R). You could probably reverse all of the patches
this way if you were patient, but it's easier to just reextract the
source and start over.

> My problem here is that I do not know what the patch is expecting. If
> I renamed to 'Linux-2.2.1' would it affect other things, maybe
> creating more difficulties? 

Normally the patches will expect /usr/src/linux to be your kernel
source, but some patches will look elsewhere instead. It all depends on
the struct of the filesystem where it was built. But that's what the
'-p' option is for - to tell patch your structure is a little different.

> Another mystery to me arises from the fact that the command lines
> suggested in all the literature I've seem do not appear to say what is
> to be patched. Yet, according to O'Reilly's Linux in a Nutshell it's
> based on 'patch [options] [original [patchfile]].

That's for patching single files, e.g.:

# patch hello.c hello-fix.patch

Which will apply hello-fix.patch to the hello.c source. With the kernel
sources (and most patches) you're applying it to a whole bunch of files.
Inside the patch file is where patch finds out which files it's supposed
to modified, all you need to do is be in the right directory and run
patch.

The reason we are piping the output of zcat to patch is two-fold.
Firstly, it needs to uncompress the file so patch can read it, and you
need to send the patch file to patch from STDIN for patches with
multiple files.

If the patch wasn't compressed, you could do something like:

# patch -p1 < patchfile

> Any suggestions where I should stumble next? Will the patches still be
> OK after what I've tried so far. My installation is appears undamaged
> - seems indestructible.

I'd be pretty surprised if the kernel compiles now, since some parts of
the patches you applied didn't work, so the kernel source is in quite a
messy state now... If you do something like

zcat patchfile | patch -Rp1

in *reverse* order from the order you applied them, it will try and
remov the patches you've applied. At the end you should have a copy of
the 2.2.1 sources exactly like you started with.

> Grateful for any help. I could, despite the online time involved,
> download 2.2.13 but would learn nothing further here and would have to
> face the problem later 2.4 if I want to keep up to date.

You could download something a wee bit earlier, like 2.2.9 and patch it
up from there. It'll be quite tedious to apply all of the patches from
2.2.1 up to 2.2.13, which is what you're going to have to do
otherwise... That way you get a 'clean' kernel source, you get to learn
how to use patch, and you get an up-to-date kernel at the end of it.

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Re: installing KDE

1999-11-05 Thread Corey Edwards
http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/doc/rman.html

That's just from a simple search at
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages.

--- Michael Hammonds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Im tyring to install  kdebase.1.1.2.xxx.deb but im
> grtting a dependency error saying that the rman package
> was'nt installed.
> anybody know where I can find the rman package?
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Re: Scrollback default in terminal emulators?

1999-11-05 Thread aphro
be careful how big your scrollback buffer is.  once upon a time i
increased kvt's (KDE's vt based on rxvt i think) scrollback buffer to some
insane amount each kvt consumed like 40megs of memory once enough stuff
was in the buffer. ever since i stuck with the default buffer.

nate


On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Brian Boonstra wrote:

boonst >Hi
boonst >
boonst >I've been spoiled by the OpenStep UI, and Terminal.app.
boonst >
boonst >I would love to set a (large) default scrollback buffer for a 
decent  
boonst >terminal application -- something like rxvt or kvt.  Is my best option 
here  
boonst >to find and compile the appropriate sources, or does someone know of a 
secret  
boonst >environment variable/config file?
boonst >
boonst >
boonst >- Brian
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Re: y2k hardware checking software for linux ?

1999-11-05 Thread aphro
thanks for the tips! i can now rest pretty easy :))

nate

On 5 Nov 1999, John Hasler wrote:

john >aphro writes:
john >> also, what are the chances that software on the system will check the
john >> date from the hardware clock and not the software clock (hwclock as
john >> opposed to date).
john >
john >Zero.
john >
john >> i don't want to feel rushed to shut down the main server if the danger 
is
john >> not that great.
john >
john >It isn't.  Linux only reads the hardware clock at boot (and when you tell
john >it to by running hwclock), and will almost certainly be able to figure out
john >the correct date even if the hardware clock does become confused.
john >
john >> I can't find any info on exactly what the problem is other then the
john >> boards are Y2K compliant as of bios rev X.
john >
john >The "noncompliance" may be something trivial like a setup screen that 
shows
john >a two digit year.
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Re: Compiling ATA/66 support into the kernel?

1999-11-05 Thread aphro
i cant say off the top of my head, ive only seen reports of it being
included in 2.3.x kernels, i think it would be more of a loader issue
(LILO in most cases) then a kernel issue. worht a try tho if you really
want ata/66, i wouldnt risk using ata66 on my bp6 though)(or on any system
of mine)

nate

On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:

thaths >aphro proclaimed:
thaths >> use 2.3.x kernel for ata/66
thaths >
thaths >Does it support booting off a ata/66 drive?  The patches for 2.2.13 say
thaths >that booting off of ata/66 drive is not supported.
thaths >
thaths >Thaths
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CR-563 CD-ROM error

1999-11-05 Thread BC895
I get the following error installing from CD-ROM under dselect:

sbpcd-0 [1]: sbp_data: CDi-status loop expired.
sbpcd-0 [2]: sbp_data: CDi-status timeout (timed_out_data) (FB).
sbpcd-0 [3]: sbp_data: read aborted by drive.
sbpcd-0 [4]: !st_diskok detected - retrying.
sbpcd-0 [5]: !st_diskok detected - retrying.
sbpcd-0 [6]: !st_diskok detected - retrying.
sbpcd-0 [7]: sbp_status: failed after 3 tries
end_request: I/O error, dev 19:00, sector 1227676

I am using a 2x CR-563 which uses the sbpcd driver

Can anyone help???


Re: system fubar after attempted upgrade to unstable, what now?

1999-11-05 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 11:43:52 -0900, Britton wrote:
> can't locate strict.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/
> 5.004 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/local/lib/site-perl/i386-linux
  ^

> What should I do first to try to fix my system?

If you have perl5.005 installed, make sure /usr/bin/perl points to
/etc/alternatives/perl and that to /usr/bin/perl-5.005 .

I've seen this on upgrades myself, and it's something we have to fix prior
to release.

HTH,
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depmod puts on wrong time stamp.

1999-11-05 Thread Account for Debian group mail

We are running Potato on one of our servers. We did some updating of the
files yesterday (using dselect). We are now having some problems with
depmod putting the wrong time stamp on the /lib/modules/2.2.12/modules.dep
file when the machine is booting up and the /etc/init.d/modutils runs.

It will put out warnings on the screen that /etc/modules.conf is newer
than the /lib/modules/2.2.12/modules.dep file is. After the machine boots
up we can go in and see that the date on the
/lib/modules/2.2.12/modules.dep file is wrong.  We have checked both the
hardware and system clock and they look the same. We run the depmod
program once the computer is up and running and it puts the proper time
stamp on the file. It's like the system clock is way off during boot up.

Has anyone else run into this problem?

Thanks,

Ken Rea



Re: Scrollback default in terminal emulators?

1999-11-05 Thread Riku Saikkonen
Brian Boonstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>   I would love to set a (large) default scrollback buffer for a decent  
>terminal application -- something like rxvt or kvt.  Is my best option here  
>to find and compile the appropriate sources, or does someone know of a secret  
>environment variable/config file?

If you start the terminal from a window manager menu entry, you should
be able to configure the window manager to automatically start it with
command-line arguments like "-sl 1000", which gives 1000 lines of
scrollback (for at least xterm and rxvt). For example, this is from my
~/.fvwm2/main-menu-pre.hook:
+ "%mini.xterm.xpm%xterm 80x58" \
  Exec xterm -geometry 80x58-0-0 -sb -sl 1000 -ls

If you can't give command-line arguments automatically, the default
number of lines can usually be set in a resource. From what I gather
of the manual pages, including the following line in your
~/.Xresources file should work for both xterm and rxvt:
XTerm*saveLines: 1000

See "man X" for details on X resources in general.

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Re: Having trouble with acrobat reader and wordperfect

1999-11-05 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 14:55:52 -0500, James Carscadden wrote:
> xwp: can't load library 'libXt.so.6'
> or
> /usr/local/Acrobat4/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread; can't load library
> 'libXt.so.6'

Check the mailing list archives.

Both are still libc5 binaries; they need the 'xlib6' (note: no 'g') package
from 'oldlibs' installed (WordPerfect also needs the xpm library from
there).

HTH,
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system fubar after attempted upgrade to unstable, what now?

1999-11-05 Thread Britton

Like the idiot that I am, I didn't read things beforehand since I hadn't
heard any buzz about not using dselect, and I know people who are using
unstable happily.  So I pointed the ftp upgrad option to unstable,
downloaded everything, tried to install it, and apparently really screwed
things up badly.  dselect was having all kinds of pre-depend
errors and eventually gave up saying there had been too many
errors.  Basicly, almost nothing runs on my system, not pon, not X,
etc, they all die with seg faults or the like.  dselect does run, but when
I try to do install again in the hope of getting whatever library I need,
I get the following (hand transcribed) error:

can't locate strict.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/
5.004 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/local/lib/site-perl/i386-linux
/usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/lib/dpkg//methods/ftp/install line 10.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/dkpg//methods/ftp/install
line 10.  Installation script returned error exit status 2.

which I suppose means my perl is screwed up.  

What should I do first to try to fix my system?


Britton


Printing with a Laserjet 1100

1999-11-05 Thread Alisdair McDiarmid
I've got a Laserjet 1100 here, and under Windows it prints things
like photos and other such dithery stuff wonderfully, with barely
a trace of dottiness.

While magicfilter does a good enough job for text, its graphics
performance is shocking. It's like it's doing it at 150dpi. I'm
stuck with the Laserjet 4L driver, as there's nothing later there.

I tried apsfilter, but it seemed the same, roughly, and the
Laserjet 5L driver didn't work. I expect a Laserjet 6L driver
would work (it's the same engine, I think) but I can't find a
filter for one anywhere. Can't I print better quality than this
from Linux?


installing KDE

1999-11-05 Thread Michael Hammonds
Im tyring to install  kdebase.1.1.2.xxx.deb but im grtting a dependency error 
saying that the rman package was'nt installed.
anybody know where I can find the rman package?


Re: October GNOME for slink.

1999-11-05 Thread Martin Weinberg
Vincent Renardias wrote on Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:18:10 -
>
>I've just compiled the lastest GNOME release (October GNOME) for slink
>(i386) and uploaded it on www.debian.org.
>The corresponding apt line is:
>
>deb http://www.debian.org/~vincent/ unstable main
>
>It's been somewhat tested.
>Comments, suggestions, constructive criticism is welcome.
>

Vincent,

Has worked well for me after a day of casual testing.  Thank you!

--Martin



Re: Good books to learn python

1999-11-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
Joe Block said:
> I like and still use _Programming Python_ by Mark Lutz.  I hear they
> came out with _Learning Python_, but haven't read it.

_Learning Python_ by Mark Lutz & David Ascher is out, I've bought it, but I
haven't had a chance to read it yet.  Just flipping through it looks good,
though...

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Having trouble with acrobat reader and wordperfect

1999-11-05 Thread James Carscadden

Right, hopefully this is a simple problem.

I am running a recent version of Potato, with 2.2.12 kernel. When I try
to run Acrobat reader or wordperfect I get the following error:

xwp: can't load library 'libXt.so.6'
or
/usr/local/Acrobat4/Reader/intellinux/bin/acroread; can't load library
'libXt.so.6'

anybody have any suggestions ? libXt.so.6 does seem to exist on the
system in /usr/X11R6/lib so I don't know what is wrong.

In a related problem when I try to run netscape calendar I get a similar
problem

nscal: can't load library 'libXmu.so.6'

again the file does exist in /usr/X11R6/lib, so I don't know what is
going on.

Please reply to me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] since I am not on the
user list.

Thanks

James Carscadden




Re: y2k hardware checking software for linux ?

1999-11-05 Thread John Hasler
aphro writes:
> also, what are the chances that software on the system will check the
> date from the hardware clock and not the software clock (hwclock as
> opposed to date).

Zero.

> i don't want to feel rushed to shut down the main server if the danger is
> not that great.

It isn't.  Linux only reads the hardware clock at boot (and when you tell
it to by running hwclock), and will almost certainly be able to figure out
the correct date even if the hardware clock does become confused.

> I can't find any info on exactly what the problem is other then the
> boards are Y2K compliant as of bios rev X.

The "noncompliance" may be something trivial like a setup screen that shows
a two digit year.
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Re: kernel upgrade options

1999-11-05 Thread John
on 05 Nov 99, Matthew Gregan wrote...

>
>On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 06:07:31PM +, John wrote:
>
>> I've obtained patches 2 to 5 but now have a problem in applying them.
>> My /usr/src had only 'kernel-sources-2.2.1' (and the .tar.gz source which
>> I'm leaving there for the time being) until I moved 'patch-2.2.xx' from the
>> download site.
>> When I do 'zcat patch2.gz | patch -p0' I get:-
>
>Cd into your kernel source dir, and use '-p1' instead.
>
I couldn't get this to work. My patches were in /usr/src and I got 'no such
file or directory', so I moved them into the kernel source dir. and did -p0
thinking that should be right. No luck, so I did -p1 - there was action, but
only 33 times 'Hunk xx failed at '  and quite a few 'succeeded' at
 with fuzz 1 or 2 and a final line 'patch:  malformed patch at line
2121: s'.

After looking at the .rej's, which were enlightening but not helpful with 
the problem, and not finding anything else to guide me, I tried to apply 
patch 3 expecting some message indicating it was out of order. It, in
fact, worked partially and said '2 out of 11 hunks failed'. Emboldened,
I did patch 4 ( '1 out of 2 failed') and then 5 which seemed OK except
for a final 'malformed patch at line 146'.

There was no real result from the exercise other than a lot of new
knowledge. My 2.2.1 came from a Debian Official CD and the patches
from ftp.kernel.org (no apparent problem with the download), so I
presume my difficulty lies elsewhere.

>> I discover the quoted lines are the first three text lines of the patch,
>> and the fourth is I presume machine instructions viz,
>>   @@-1403,6 +1403,13@@
>
>These numbers are actually line numbers - it's telling patch the general
>location of where to look in the file. I think the format is like this:
>
>- look at line 1403
>- 6 lines are to be removed
>- look at the new line 1403
>- 13 lines are to be added
>
>Someone please correct me if I messed that up. :-)
>
Thank you - I've had a look, and think I can see what is being done.
I don't understand the technicalities but can what is being changed.

>> Can anyone help - I feel I understand what is required generally,=20
>> but not specifically. Is it that I don't have a directory called
>> Linux in /usr/src? (everything I read seems to assume I have)
>> I don't mind messing-up things and having to reinstall, but it
>> wouldn't help I'd still not be able to apply patches.=20
>
>You could rename your kernel-source-2.2.1 to whatever the patch is
>expecting and run patch again with the arguments you used, but you are
>better off to cd into the the dir and use '-p1', since everybody seems
>to have different names for their top level directory. :-)
>
My problem here is that I do not know what the patch is expecting. If
I renamed to 'Linux-2.2.1' would it affect other things, maybe creating
more difficulties? 

Another mystery to me arises from the fact that the command lines
suggested in all the literature I've seem do not appear to say what
is to be patched. Yet, according to O'Reilly's Linux in a Nutshell it's
based on 'patch [options] [original [patchfile]].

Any suggestions where I should stumble next? Will the patches still be
OK after what I've tried so far. My installation is appears undamaged 
 - seems indestructible.

Grateful for any help. I could, despite the online time involved, 
download 2.2.13 but would learn nothing further here and would
have to face the problem later 2.4 if I want to keep up to date.

Regards.


Re: Compiling ATA/66 support into the kernel?

1999-11-05 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
aphro proclaimed:
> use 2.3.x kernel for ata/66

Does it support booting off a ata/66 drive?  The patches for 2.2.13 say
that booting off of ata/66 drive is not supported.

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Re: Recommendations for Laptop

1999-11-05 Thread Mike Werner
Charles Lewis wrote:
> Speaking of laptops, I have a Compaq Presario 1920 that I have been dreaming
> for a long time of installing Debian on it, but I've been too chicken.
> Anyone else had a successfuly experience with one of these?

See http://members.xoom.com/joey/linux.htm  Seems to have worked
decently for him - though he used Red Hat 5.2 that shouldn't differ
too much.
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Re: notifying

1999-11-05 Thread Marc Mongeon
Interesting...  Here are some thoughts:

Do you manage your own mail server?  You could use the "user+" convention,
by configuring exim appropriately, to send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
then use the .forward file to pipe the message to a script that sends a sound
file to /dev/audio.

/home/wife/.forward:

# Exim filter
if $local_part_suffix is "+alert" then pipe "/home/wife/alert.sh"

/home/wife/alert.sh:

#!/bin/sh
# The incoming message is available on standard input, but you can just
# ignore it
cat alert.au > /dev/audio

This is kind of off the top of my head, so I welcome other comments.  I guess if
you are using fetchmail and a POP account, you could just filter on a subject
line instead of an address suffix.

Marc

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>>> Brian Schramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/05 11:48 AM >>>
I would like to set it up so I can send an email or some other message
from a machine over the net or locally to another user to tell them to log
in a check for messages.  I know if they are on I can get their attention
but a lot of times I would like to have my wife log in when I send her a
message that I need to have her look at right away.  The computer is
usually in ear shot so the sound card or speeker can be trigured.  

I would love to have it run by an email address so I can do it from
anywere.  

Any ideas??

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motherboard temperature alarm beeps during screen-saver activity

1999-11-05 Thread Bruce Perens
I have a "SuperMicro" motherboard with a temperature alarm. The alarm beeps
intermittently during screen-saver activity. There is no temperature problem.
Either there's some I/O port being touched that should not be, or the beeper
is going off due to some motherboard-detected error. I have parity enabled,
I wonder if that's it?

Has anyone seen this?

Bruce


Re: notifying

1999-11-05 Thread Martin Fluch
On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Brian Schramm wrote:

> I would like to set it up so I can send an email or some other message
> from a machine over the net or locally to another user to tell them to log
> in a check for messages.  I know if they are on I can get their attention
> but a lot of times I would like to have my wife log in when I send her a
> message that I need to have her look at right away.  The computer is
> usually in ear shot so the sound card or speeker can be trigured.  
> 
> I would love to have it run by an email address so I can do it from
> anywere.  
> 
> Any ideas??

try to use procmail to start some other notification scripts...

Martin

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Scrollback default in terminal emulators?

1999-11-05 Thread Brian Boonstra
Hi

I've been spoiled by the OpenStep UI, and Terminal.app.

I would love to set a (large) default scrollback buffer for a decent  
terminal application -- something like rxvt or kvt.  Is my best option here  
to find and compile the appropriate sources, or does someone know of a secret  
environment variable/config file?


- Brian


Re: Printers..

1999-11-05 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  5 Nov, David Wright wrote about "Re: Printers.."
> Quoting Brian Servis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>> 
>> A long standing question though is which postscript printer driver to
>> use on the windows machine?  I usally choose an Apple driver since they
>> tend to stick to the true postscript format and don't add proprietary
>> formats like HP sometimes does.  I also select the Archive Format in the
>  --
>  what does that do? /
> 

I am not 100% sure but from what I have gathered over the years it makes
the postscript code more portable and turns off lots of the proprietary
code in the postscript.  It may be one of those "it works so why change
it" type of deals.

>> driver. Someone needs to write a GPL'ed ghostscript windows printer
>> driver(maybe it already exists?).
> 
> I'm interested in this too, as I have a linux box serving an HP 895
> to an NT box as well as other linuxes. I actually use the HP 895
> driver, but I had to trick NT into install it. What I did was to
> borrow the 895 for NT just to install the HP driver (which insists
> on seeing the printer - I guess it talks back).
> 
> After I'd returned the 895 to linux, I set up my default printer on NT
> with some driver already present, and then changed its Properties to
> the HP 895 driver ("keep this version" option).
> 
> Are there any advantages in having done this?
> 

Hmmm. I don't recall having this problem when I setup my 660C.  I would
assume that by telling it that it was a network printer it would not try
and establish 2-way communication.  Then again it is Windows so you
can't assume anything in confidence.

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Re: what a hack (dselect solution)

1999-11-05 Thread James Pullman
That happened to me.  I symlinked them instead :-D

Seems harmless enough, but those are famous last words.  Nothing has died on me 
(yet)

On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 11:08:10AM -0500, Aaron Solochek wrote:
> Ok, as regular readers probably know, I was having problems with
> dselect.  It was complaing about not finding
> /usr/share/debconf/confmodule or something similar.  There was a
> /usr/share/debconf/confmodule.sh, so I decided, to cp that file leaving
> out the .sh, to appease dselect.  It seems to have worked, WTF?  What
> did I do?  why would this problem have surfaced in the first place.  Was
> it just checking for the existance of that file, and not actually
> reading or writing it?
> 
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notifying

1999-11-05 Thread Brian Schramm
I would like to set it up so I can send an email or some other message
from a machine over the net or locally to another user to tell them to log
in a check for messages.  I know if they are on I can get their attention
but a lot of times I would like to have my wife log in when I send her a
message that I need to have her look at right away.  The computer is
usually in ear shot so the sound card or speeker can be trigured.  

I would love to have it run by an email address so I can do it from
anywere.  

Any ideas??

Brian Schramm
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www.linuxexpert.org



Questions on X

1999-11-05 Thread Brian Schramm
I run Debian Slink 2.2 fully updated from debian.org.

I have 2 machines setup on a network in my house.  One of them has a lot
of ram and HD space for use and the other is very limited in both.  I have
my home directory maped by nfs to the large machine.  What I want to do is
use xdm to act as a x terminal on the small machine so it will not be so
slow in X when I want to use it.

I am asuming that it is posible but I cannot figure out how to configure
that.  Can anyone help me?

Thanks.

Brian Schramm
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How to use my modem as a phone

1999-11-05 Thread Sami Dalouche
Hello everyone !

I'd like to use my Olitec Speed Voice 56000 as a phone, just as I can under
Windoze. Is it possible ? Which software must I use (I prefer packaged in
.deb, but I can compile the sources too.)

Thank you very much.

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y2k hardware checking software for linux ?

1999-11-05 Thread aphro
was curious if anyone knew if such stuff exists.  my main server, claimed
by one of the admins is not y2k compliant (the mainboard, which is an ASUS
P2B-D).  I don't know the bios rev, and i dont want to reboot the machine,
i'm also 2000 miles away from the machine with the only people that have
access to it, although bright, do not have a lot of experience (if any) in
doing this kind of work like flashing a bios.

so it brings me to the question is there a hardware tester for
linux? something i could run w/o a reboot.

also, what are the chances that software on the system will check the date
from the hardware clock and not the software clock (hwclock as opposed to
date).  see:

galactica:/users/admin/aphro# hwclock --show ; date
Fri Nov  5 15:31:12 1999  -0.478007 seconds
Fri Nov  5 08:59:17 PST 1999

they are different now, and always have been and it has yet to cause a
problem.  i still plan to flash update if needed *EVENTUALLY*, i don't
want to feel rushed to shut down the main server if the danger is not that
great.  Im sure all the critical software on the system is y2k compliant
(latest apache, latest sendmail, latest ipop3d etc)

I'm shocked that a company like ASUS would have Y2K issues on a Dual PII
mainboard thats barely a year old.  I can't find any info on exactly what
the problem is other then the boards are Y2K compliant as of bios rev
X.  the latest bios rev inclnudes no additional info as to what is
changed.

thanks to all..

nate

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Problems during installation of LINUX

1999-11-05 Thread Claus Kensy
German part see below.


I want to install LINUX on my PC. For this I created a rescue floppy
disk
(LINUX) under DOS to be able to boot the PC.
After I have booted the PC and I answered some questions the step
appears
to select a harddisk for partitioning.
Now the problem occurs.
I have connected one HD on IDE1, one HD on IDE2 and one on an SCSI
adapter
(Adaptec 1542).
I want to use the SCSI HD for Linux installation, but the window on the
screen
only shows  /dev/hda and /dev/hdc to be selected ( the IDE HDs).
What has to be done to use the SCSI HD for partitioning and installing
LINUX?

Kind regards

Claus


Ich moechte gerne LINUX auf meinem PC installieren. Deshalb habe ich mir
eine rescue Floppy erzeugt, mit der ich den PC boote. Das funktioniert
wunderbar.
Danach komme ich -nach mehreren Schritten- zu dem Punkt eine Harddisk
auszuwaehlen.
Hier beginnt mein Problem.
Ich habe je eine HD an IDE1 und IDE2 und eine HD an SCSI ( Adaptec
1542 ) angeschlossen.
Zur Auswahl bekomme ich nur /dev/hda und /dev/hdc angeboten ( die IDE
HDs ).
Die SCSI HD erscheint nicht im Menue.

Was muss ich beim Prompt "boot:" angeben oder sonst tun, damit die SCSI
HD erkannt wird, sodass dann LINUX von CD auf dieser HD installiert
wird.

Vielen Dank fuer Ratschlaege.

Claus



diald won't connect a second time

1999-11-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
Since the latest potato update to diald 0.99.1-0.1, I have found that
after the link goes down, I have to kill diald and restart it before it
will dial again.  /var/log/ppp.log shows:

Nov  5 07:05:36 nielsen diald[9081]: Closing down idle link.
Nov  5 07:05:36 nielsen diald[9081]: start sl0: SIOCSIFMETRIC: Invalid argument
Nov  5 07:05:36 nielsen diald[9081]: bind snoopfd: Bad file descriptor
Nov  5 07:05:36 nielsen pppd[9095]: Terminating on signal 2.
Nov  5 07:05:54 nielsen pppd[9095]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Nov  5 07:05:54 nielsen pppd[9095]: Modem hangup
Nov  5 07:05:54 nielsen pppd[9095]: Connection terminated.
Nov  5 07:05:54 nielsen pppd[9095]: Connect time 14.2 minutes.
Nov  5 07:05:54 nielsen pppd[9095]: Sent 0 bytes, received 0 bytes.
Nov  5 07:05:54 nielsen pppd[9095]: Exit.
Nov  5 07:05:54 nielsen diald[9081]: start sl0: SIOCSIFMETRIC: Invalid argument
Nov  5 07:05:54 nielsen diald[9081]: Disconnected. Call duration 865 seconds.
Nov  5 07:05:54 nielsen diald[9081]: IP transmitted 18201 bytes and received 
239701 bytes.
Nov  5 07:05:55 nielsen diald[9081]: Delaying 5 seconds before clear to dial.

As far as I can tell, this is similar to what I was seeing with the
earlier version, except for the SIOCSIFMETRIC error, which also occurs
when the connection is made (previously there was a SIOCDELRT error
instead).

I also get a message "unknown option 'reroute'" when the connection is
initiated.  I don't see anything in the changelog about reroute being
discontinued.

Prior to the latest upgrade, diald ran flawlessly for me.  Running

/etc/init.d/diald stop ; /etc/init.d/diald start

will reset things so diald works again, but this shouldn't be
necessary.  Does anyone know what changed here and what to do about it?

System is potato (nearly up-to-date, except for a few packages which
won't update correctly, like mutt and console-data), kernel 2.0.38.

Bob

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Re: Booting from floopy slow

1999-11-05 Thread aphro
On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:

arodri >accelerate it? Is there any command to type that will speed it, say
arodri >redirect it to hdb1? When I made the installation I also enabled booting
arodri >from hard disk.

boot to dos, and use loadlin, which boots linux from dos, be careful there
are no TSRs loaded (drivers) unless you really need them.  loadlin
requires a copy of the kernel to reside on the dos partition so it can
boot it.  boots much faster then floppy.

nate

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Re: HD problem/kern.log.3gz

1999-11-05 Thread aphro
the hard drive is dieing..recover data from it while you still can.  i had
a root drive fail in a server a couple months ago(running slackware
3.2) it ran for about 3 weeks (barely, no new processes would spawn) while
the drive was clanging away ..(i was astouneded) then it finally died and
remained offline (totally) for about a week.  then we powered it back up
and it worked ok, shut it down a few minutes later and it was dead
again.  so if data is on the rive that u cant recover now, let the drive
rest some, and try again in a week or 2.  in any case the drive is dead.  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] can do this(like any memory intesenive porogram) if u dont 
have
enough memoruy and the drive is constantly (and i mean
_CONSTANTLY_) swapping to disk, one machine i got was doing this for about
2 months and started getting bad sectors, so i stopped using seti on it
and increased the ram from 16mb to 96mb.

nate


On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, ktb wrote:

xyf >I was running the [EMAIL PROTECTED] program a month or so back and got up 
in the
xyf >morning and found my X screen completely frozen.  Ctrl-alt-delete or
xyf >Ctrl-alt-backspace had no effect. So I did a hard reset.  I got the
xyf >forced check as expected but in the final stages of the boot routine I
xyf >received errors flying by and couldn't boot into Debian.  I should
xyf >mention that my hard drive made a loud clunking noise I had never heard
xyf >before.  I tried several times to boot and the same thing happened.  I
xyf >gave up thinking my HD was blown.  A couple days ago I accidentally
xyf >booted the HD Debian is on and it booted fine.  I have booted twice now
xyf >and everything is ok.  I've looked at the log files but don't understand
xyf >what the error messages mean.  I was hoping someone could clue me in on
xyf >what is going on with my HD.  Sorry for the length of this message.
xyf >Thanks,
xyf >kent
xyf >
xyf >/var/log/kern.log.3gz
xyf >
xyf >
xyf >Sep 28 12:29:13 www kernel: PPP line discipline registered. 
xyf >Sep 28 12:29:13 www kernel: Partition check: 
xyf >Sep 28 12:29:13 www kernel:  hda: hda1 
xyf >Sep 28 12:29:13 www kernel:  hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3 < hdb5 hdb6 > 
xyf >Sep 28 12:29:13 www kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
xyf >readonly. 
xyf >Sep 28 12:29:13 www kernel: Adding Swap: 72288k swap-space (priority -1) 
xyf >Sep 28 12:30:53 www kernel: registered device ppp0 
xyf >Sep 29 07:53:24 www kernel: hdb: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } 
xyf >Sep 29 07:53:24 www kernel: ide0: reset: success 
xyf >Sep 29 10:24:24 www kernel: hdb: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } 
xyf >Sep 29 10:24:25 www kernel: ide0: reset: success 
xyf >Sep 29 19:43:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
xyf >SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
xyf >Sep 29 19:43:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
xyf >LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
xyf >Sep 29 19:43:52 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
xyf >53750 
xyf >Sep 29 19:43:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
xyf >SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
xyf >Sep 29 19:43:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
xyf >LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
xyf >Sep 29 19:43:52 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
xyf >53750 
xyf >Sep 29 19:53:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
xyf >SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
xyf >Sep 29 19:53:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
xyf >LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
xyf >Sep 29 19:53:52 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
xyf >53750 
xyf >Sep 29 20:03:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
xyf >SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
xyf >Sep 29 20:03:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
xyf >LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
xyf >Sep 29 20:03:52 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
xyf >53750 
xyf >Sep 29 20:13:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
xyf >SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
xyf >Sep 29 20:13:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
xyf >LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
xyf >Sep 29 20:13:52 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
xyf >53750 
xyf >Sep 29 20:23:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
xyf >SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
xyf >Sep 29 20:23:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
xyf >LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
xyf >Sep 29 20:23:52 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
xyf >53750 
xyf >Sep 29 20:33:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
xyf >SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
xyf >Sep 29 20:33:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
xyf >LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
xyf >Sep 29 20:33:53 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
xyf >53750 
xyf >Sep 29 20:43:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
xyf >SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
xyf >Sep 29 20:43:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },

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1999-11-05 Thread Gianmario Nava



 
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Re: Printers..

1999-11-05 Thread David Wright
Quoting Brian Servis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> *- On  5 Nov, Joe Block wrote about "Re: Printers.."
> > Brian Servis wrote:
> >> Samba will make this possible.  Just make a local printer available that
> >> passes the print data from the win machines directly to the printer
> >> without using a filter.  That way you can install the printer driver on
> >> the win machines and take full advantage of the native win print
> >> drivers.  Read the SMB-HOWTO and the doc in the samba-doc package.
> > 
> > It's also worth it to set the printer up as a postscript printer as well
> > on the windows machines - magicfilter will autodetect postscript and
> > render it using ghostscript.  Sometimes you can get better output from
> > software by using a postscript printer, especially when you're using
> > Adobe programs.
> > 
> 
> Very true.  I do this as well.  Works great for Word and such when
> including .eps files in the document.  You can also set up some nice
> 2-up or 4-up print filters using postscript post processing programs in
> the psutils package.
> 
> A long standing question though is which postscript printer driver to
> use on the windows machine?  I usally choose an Apple driver since they
> tend to stick to the true postscript format and don't add proprietary
> formats like HP sometimes does.  I also select the Archive Format in the
 --
 what does that do? /

> driver. Someone needs to write a GPL'ed ghostscript windows printer
> driver(maybe it already exists?).

I'm interested in this too, as I have a linux box serving an HP 895
to an NT box as well as other linuxes. I actually use the HP 895
driver, but I had to trick NT into install it. What I did was to
borrow the 895 for NT just to install the HP driver (which insists
on seeing the printer - I guess it talks back).

After I'd returned the 895 to linux, I set up my default printer on NT
with some driver already present, and then changed its Properties to
the HP 895 driver ("keep this version" option).

Are there any advantages in having done this?

Cheers,

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Re: Apache & Listening on another IP...

1999-11-05 Thread aphro
On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Brant Wells wrote:

dafyre >computer while it's running Debian) has the Apache web
dafyre >server.  How can I make Apache listen to the IP address of

you dont.  if the ip is bound to another machine you cant listen to the
http port on that machine from another machine.  you may be able to setup
some kind of firewall to forward connections to your linux box
though. since its win2k i dont envy your task.  in debian it would be as
easy as setting up rinetd (internet redirection daemon)


nate

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Re: Printers..

1999-11-05 Thread aphro
andrew >Also is it possible to set a printer on a Linux box on a LAN and have
andrew >the Win9x/NT machines print on it?  If so is it really hard to setup?

print sharing in samba is a snap, for me it was much harder getting my
deskjet 500 to work in linux then getting it to print iover a network.

nate

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Re: how to compile packages optimized for Pentium or Pentium-II?

1999-11-05 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 11:08:34AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 09:57:07AM -0600, Brian Boonstra wrote:
> > Ingo wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 05:08:04PM +0100, Robert Varga wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How can I recompile the packages so that they be optimized for running 
> > > > on
> > > > Pentium or Pentium-II or else?
> > 
> > Does that mean that gcc normally is NOT Pentium optimized?
> 
> No. GCC can optimize for pentiums, by default it compiles for i386 though.
> This is needed so that we don't produce code which wont run on some
> systems that we want to support. All that is need is the proper CFLAGS set
> (which I assume the scripts that replace the normal gcc and g++ merely add
> these manually, and without the need for modifying the build).

Don't expect too much of these pentium-specific options.  The biggest
speedup I have seen for a fractal generator on a PentiumII, was the one
I got with -Os.  This is not pentium-specific at all.  It reduces the
code size, so that it fits better in the processor cache.  It was only
12% faster than the regular -O2 optimization, which everybody uses.
Adding -ffast-math made the program slower (sic), and -march=pentiumpro
did not do anything noticable at all.  I personally don't think you
will note a big difference if you recompile all of debian with
pentium-specific optimization options.  This may change once the intel
optimizations are built into gcc though.

HTH,
Eric

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Re: Compiling ATA/66 support into the kernel?

1999-11-05 Thread aphro
use 2.3.x kernel for ata/66

make sure there is no device on the 2nd channeln for the ata/66 or the
machine will crash

nate

On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:

thaths >How do I compile ATA/66 support into the kernel?  And what version of 
the
thaths >kernel should I use?  The slink boot floppies have 2.0.36 and this 
kernel
thaths >is not currently recogonizing my ide2 and ide3 interfaces.
thaths >
thaths >Here is my setup:
thaths >
thaths >Abit BP6 MoBo.
thaths >128M PC100 SDRAM
thaths >2 * 466MHz Celeron PPGA
thaths >
thaths >ide0 (ATA/33)   Matshita ATAPI CDROM (master)
thaths >ide1 (ATA/33)   nothing
thaths >ide2 (ATA/66)   Western Digital 20.5 G HDD (supports ATA/66)
thaths >ide3 (ATA/66)   nothing
thaths >
thaths >scsi0   Tekram 390U Ultra Wide II card (ncr53x875E)
thaths >sda Quantum 9.1G HDD
thaths >
thaths >Another strange problem I have been having.  When I install slink (on
thaths >/dev/sda) the ncr SCSI controller is detected fine.  No SCSI errors even
thaths >when doing a lot of disk I/O.  But the kernel is UP.  When I compile a
thaths >custom kernel (2.0.36 or 2.2.13) for SMP with support for  ncr53c8xx 
and /
thaths >or sym53c8xx I keep getting time-out messages from the scsi driver like 
the
thaths >following whenever I do a lot of disk I/O (like an apt-get upgrade 
pointing
thaths >to potato):
thaths >
thaths >scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 6167, scsi0, channel 0, id 
0,
thaths >lun 0 Write (10) 00 00 8f f7 27 00 00 02 00 
thaths >sym53c8xx_abort: pid=6167 serial_number=6182 
serial_number_at_timeout=6182
thaths >SCSI host 0 abort (pid 6167) timed out - resetting
thaths >SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
thaths >sym53c8xx_reset: pid=6167 reset_flags=2 serial_number=6182
thaths >serial_number_at_timeout=6182
thaths >sym53c875E-0: restart (scsi reset).
thaths >sym53c875E-0: Downloading SCSI SCRIPTS.
thaths >sym53c875E-0-<0,*>: FAST-20 WIDE SCSI 40.0 MB/s (50 ns, offset 16)
thaths >scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 6572, scsi0, channel 0, id
thaths >0, lun 0 Write (10) 00 00 8f f7 0f 00 00 02 00 
thaths >sym53c8xx_abort: pid=6572 serial_number=6599
thaths >serial_number_at_timeout=6599
thaths >SCSI host 0 abort (pid 6572) timed out - resetting
thaths >SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
thaths >sym53c8xx_reset: pid=6572 reset_flags=2 serial_number=6599
thaths >serial_number_at_timeout=6599
thaths >sym53c875E-0: restart (scsi reset).
thaths >sym53c875E-0: Downloading SCSI SCRIPTS.
thaths >sym53c875E-0-<0,*>: FAST-20 WIDE SCSI 40.0 MB/s (50 ns, offset 16)
thaths >
thaths >
thaths >Thaths
thaths >-- 
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thaths >   as, 'The process of removing weeds from one's garden.'"
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Re: Printers..

1999-11-05 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  5 Nov, Joe Block wrote about "Re: Printers.."
> Brian Servis wrote:
>> Samba will make this possible.  Just make a local printer available that
>> passes the print data from the win machines directly to the printer
>> without using a filter.  That way you can install the printer driver on
>> the win machines and take full advantage of the native win print
>> drivers.  Read the SMB-HOWTO and the doc in the samba-doc package.
> 
> It's also worth it to set the printer up as a postscript printer as well
> on the windows machines - magicfilter will autodetect postscript and
> render it using ghostscript.  Sometimes you can get better output from
> software by using a postscript printer, especially when you're using
> Adobe programs.
> 

Very true.  I do this as well.  Works great for Word and such when
including .eps files in the document.  You can also set up some nice
2-up or 4-up print filters using postscript post processing programs in
the psutils package.

A long standing question though is which postscript printer driver to
use on the windows machine?  I usally choose an Apple driver since they
tend to stick to the true postscript format and don't add proprietary
formats like HP sometimes does.  I also select the Archive Format in the
driver. Someone needs to write a GPL'ed ghostscript windows printer
driver(maybe it already exists?).

Brian Servis
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what a hack (dselect solution)

1999-11-05 Thread Aaron Solochek
Ok, as regular readers probably know, I was having problems with
dselect.  It was complaing about not finding
/usr/share/debconf/confmodule or something similar.  There was a
/usr/share/debconf/confmodule.sh, so I decided, to cp that file leaving
out the .sh, to appease dselect.  It seems to have worked, WTF?  What
did I do?  why would this problem have surfaced in the first place.  Was
it just checking for the existance of that file, and not actually
reading or writing it?

-Aaron Solochek
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Re: Printers..

1999-11-05 Thread Joe Block
Brian Servis wrote:
> Samba will make this possible.  Just make a local printer available that
> passes the print data from the win machines directly to the printer
> without using a filter.  That way you can install the printer driver on
> the win machines and take full advantage of the native win print
> drivers.  Read the SMB-HOWTO and the doc in the samba-doc package.

It's also worth it to set the printer up as a postscript printer as well
on the windows machines - magicfilter will autodetect postscript and
render it using ghostscript.  Sometimes you can get better output from
software by using a postscript printer, especially when you're using
Adobe programs.

jpb
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Re: Snapshot for debugging network problems

1999-11-05 Thread Onno

Hmmm, 'ipchains -L' or 'ipchains -L -v' could be useful
here. If the i/o chains filter or accept packets that
could be (part of) the problem you're a step closer to
the solution.

I use ipchains sometimes to block/accept packets to see
what will happen in some circumstances.

I'm very curious what will come of this thread...

Regards,

Onno

At 02:48 PM 11/5/99 +, David Wright wrote:

While tracking down network problems of any kind, it's quite handy
to take a snapshot of the networking parameters so you can look at
it after the event. I have a bash function which is currently:

/bin/uname -a
/sbin/ifconfig
/sbin/route -n
/usr/sbin/arp -n -a
/bin/netstat -n -a -e
/bin/ps auxwww
/bin/date

Then I use
tcpdump -l -n -i  [host ] | tee 
to watch the traffic and
/bin/fuser -n  -v 
to see what might be causing trouble. The last one I really stumbled
across, only having seen fuser used for investigating busy files and
directories in the past.

Are there any useful commands I've missed? What's the best tool for
translating the output from tcpdump?[stop here if you like]

For those that might be interested, the last problem I was trying
to solve was a dramatic slowdown in ppp from my home machine to work.
So slow that ssh just wouldn't connect, and telnet would take more
than five minutes. Characters could take up to a minute to reflect.

I was at work and had initiated the ppp connection. Looking at the
traffic with tcpdump -l -i ppp0, it was completely dominated by traffic
to the nameservers, and with the fuser command on the port numbers
being shown, I was able to pin it down to icmplogd and tcplogd which
were running on the m/c at home. (No longer.)

I have no idea why this slowdown had happened only a couple of times
in the past, but previously I'd put it down to a bad line or some
ethernet problem at work. (It never seemed to affect the CHAP
handshaking, though.) I attacked the problem this time because I was
sitting at the work end, so I could easily confirm that everything
on the ethernet was functioning. (And I really needed to transfer a
file home.)

It took me most of an hour to realise I should kill the two offending
daemons. I'm still not sure what they were asking the nameservers,
but I have a large traffic file available. I'm used to seeing messages
like (from memory) "bar > 255, who is foo, tell bar" and "foo > bar,
foo is on 0:1:2:3:4:5" but this stuff was all numerical. Is there
something that can print what it thinks it all means?

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Re: how to compile packages optimized for Pentium or Pentium-II?

1999-11-05 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 09:57:07AM -0600, Brian Boonstra wrote:
> Ingo wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 05:08:04PM +0100, Robert Varga wrote:
> > >
> > > How can I recompile the packages so that they be optimized for running on
> > > Pentium or Pentium-II or else?
> 
> Does that mean that gcc normally is NOT Pentium optimized?

No. GCC can optimize for pentiums, by default it compiles for i386 though.
This is needed so that we don't produce code which wont run on some
systems that we want to support. All that is need is the proper CFLAGS set
(which I assume the scripts that replace the normal gcc and g++ merely add
these manually, and without the need for modifying the build).

Ben


Re: printing to shared remote printer (Win95) using lpr

1999-11-05 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  5 Nov, Charles Lewis wrote about "printing to shared remote printer 
(Win95) using lpr"
> I apologize if this has been discussed already or if this is off topic, but
> I'm still learning samba and I can't figure out this problem. I'm trying
> configure my samba/debian box to allow printing to a shared printer on a
> win95 machine. Any help is appreciated.
> 
> In printcap:
> 
> ljsaturn|HP Laserjet 6P
>  :rm=saturn.ois.swau.edu
>  :rp=hplj6p
>  :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljsaturn
>  :mx#0
>  :lp=/dev/null
>  :sh
>  :sf
> 
> I can print from another Windows machine (through the samba share
> \\saturn\hplj6p). However, when I'm on the samba server and type 'lpr -P
> hplj6p /etc/samba/smb.conf' for instance, I get the following errors:
> 

Windows doesn't have by default an lpr daemon so you can not use the rp
rules in printcap.  You need to have an input filter(if) that sends the
print job out via smbclient to the windows machine.  A sample
script(smbprint) is provided in the samba-doc package in the examples
directory under /usr/doc/samba-doc.  There is documentation in the
smbprint file on how to set it up.  I have never done it but it looks
pretty straight forward.

Brian Servis
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Re: how to compile packages optimized for Pentium or Pentium-II?

1999-11-05 Thread Brian Boonstra
Ingo wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 05:08:04PM +0100, Robert Varga wrote:
> >
> > How can I recompile the packages so that they be optimized for running on
> > Pentium or Pentium-II or else?

According to the docs, this

Replaces gcc, cc, and g++ with scripts that build with
pentium optimizations, using egcc.

By default, after installing this package, the compilers
will behave normally. However, if the environment variable
DEBIAN_BUILDARCH=pentium is set, they will enter pentium
optimized compile mode.


Does that mean that gcc normally is NOT Pentium optimized?


- Brian


Re: Recommendations for Laptop

1999-11-05 Thread Charles Lewis
Speaking of laptops, I have a Compaq Presario 1920 that I have been dreaming
for a long time of installing Debian on it, but I've been too chicken.
Anyone else had a successfuly experience with one of these?

===
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Southwestern Adventist University, Keene, TX
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> On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Anthony Campbell wrote:
>
> > On 05 Nov 1999, Andrew Clark wrote:
> > > I would like to get a laptop and run Debian on it.  Does anyone have
> > > any recommendations for machines/manufactures to buy or avoid?
> > >
> > > Regards, Andrew Clark.
>
> IBM ThinkPads are marvelous ... I by myselfe have an TP 770, and I use it
> as an desktop alternative. Some links on Linux on ThinkPads:
>
> http://mfluch.uni-hd.de/tp770.html
> http://www.bm-soft.com/~bm/tp770x.html
> http://www.baiti.net/tp770x
> http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~thood/tp600lnx.htm
>
> Martin
>
>
> PS: I've never seen a better keyboard, than on my machine...
>
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Re: Good books to learn python

1999-11-05 Thread Joe Block
Andrew Clark wrote:
> 
> Any recommendations for good books to learn python for a programmer with
> a background in C/C++ ?

I like and still use _Programming Python_ by Mark Lutz.  I hear they
came out with _Learning Python_, but haven't read it.

jpb
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printing to shared remote printer (Win95) using lpr

1999-11-05 Thread Charles Lewis
I apologize if this has been discussed already or if this is off topic, but
I'm still learning samba and I can't figure out this problem. I'm trying
configure my samba/debian box to allow printing to a shared printer on a
win95 machine. Any help is appreciated.

In printcap:

ljsaturn|HP Laserjet 6P
 :rm=saturn.ois.swau.edu
 :rp=hplj6p
 :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljsaturn
 :mx#0
 :lp=/dev/null
 :sh
 :sf

I can print from another Windows machine (through the samba share
\\saturn\hplj6p). However, when I'm on the samba server and type 'lpr -P
hplj6p /etc/samba/smb.conf' for instance, I get the following errors:

sending job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
connecting to 'localhost', attempt 1
connected to 'localhost'
requesting printer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
error 'LINK_TRANSFER_FAIL' sending str '^Bhplj6p' to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
job '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' transfer to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed

Is this a samba config problem or a printcap config problem?

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Re: setting the date with date [ Netdate ]

1999-11-05 Thread Dave Sherohman
Peter Ross said:
> There is no difference between netdate and ntpdate, however the xntp
> package provides some more services that allow a clock to be kept in
> sync with another clock continuously.

Right, but, as I said in my original question, ntpdate is a package unto
itself.  I don't know about the xntp package (according to my machines, it
doesn't exist), but the ntp package recommends the ntpdate package.

So if netdate is in one of the standard/base networking packages and netdate
is identical to ntpdate, why does the ntpdate package exist?

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Snapshot for debugging network problems

1999-11-05 Thread David Wright
While tracking down network problems of any kind, it's quite handy
to take a snapshot of the networking parameters so you can look at
it after the event. I have a bash function which is currently:

/bin/uname -a
/sbin/ifconfig
/sbin/route -n
/usr/sbin/arp -n -a
/bin/netstat -n -a -e
/bin/ps auxwww
/bin/date

Then I use
tcpdump -l -n -i  [host ] | tee 
to watch the traffic and
/bin/fuser -n  -v 
to see what might be causing trouble. The last one I really stumbled
across, only having seen fuser used for investigating busy files and
directories in the past.

Are there any useful commands I've missed? What's the best tool for
translating the output from tcpdump?[stop here if you like]

For those that might be interested, the last problem I was trying
to solve was a dramatic slowdown in ppp from my home machine to work.
So slow that ssh just wouldn't connect, and telnet would take more
than five minutes. Characters could take up to a minute to reflect.

I was at work and had initiated the ppp connection. Looking at the
traffic with tcpdump -l -i ppp0, it was completely dominated by traffic
to the nameservers, and with the fuser command on the port numbers
being shown, I was able to pin it down to icmplogd and tcplogd which
were running on the m/c at home. (No longer.)

I have no idea why this slowdown had happened only a couple of times
in the past, but previously I'd put it down to a bad line or some
ethernet problem at work. (It never seemed to affect the CHAP
handshaking, though.) I attacked the problem this time because I was
sitting at the work end, so I could easily confirm that everything
on the ethernet was functioning. (And I really needed to transfer a
file home.)

It took me most of an hour to realise I should kill the two offending
daemons. I'm still not sure what they were asking the nameservers,
but I have a large traffic file available. I'm used to seeing messages
like (from memory) "bar > 255, who is foo, tell bar" and "foo > bar,
foo is on 0:1:2:3:4:5" but this stuff was all numerical. Is there
something that can print what it thinks it all means?

Cheers,

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How do I enable gnome environment?

1999-11-05 Thread Stan Brown
I am setting up a new unstable installation. I have X configured and
working with xdm. I have run dselect and installed a the gnome
packages, and enlightenmnet.

How do I enable this to be used? In the past Debian distributions
usally had a very nice set of default dotfiles etc.

Am I missing a step here or what? When I log in the xdm session I get
no window manager at all. Just the defaul session with an xterm in the
uper left hand corner, and a error log in the lower left one.


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Forcing Netscape to use MTA

1999-11-05 Thread Matthew W. Roberts
My slink box is using a dial up connection with exim.  When I enter
localhost as the outgoing server, Netscape complains.  I've configured
exim as a `satellite' system -- is this the problem?  Is there any
way to force Netscape to use exim configured this way?

Thanks,


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Re: Booting from floopy slow

1999-11-05 Thread Jean-Yves BARBIER
On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 07:55:59AM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> I installed Debian slink in a second hard drive, which is hdb1 (there
> are hda1 to hda4), my system does not allow booting from a slave hard
> drive, so I use the floppy system, but it is very slow. What can I do to
> accelerate it? Is there any command to type that will speed it, say
> redirect it to hdb1? When I made the installation I also enabled booting
> from hard disk.

For the diskette, just answer YES when you've compiled a new kernel to the
question 'Make a boot diskette ?'.

For the HD, read /usr/doc/LILO-HOWTO

JY
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potato install and boot floppies

1999-11-05 Thread Ethan Benson

hello,

I have to repartition my disk (completely) and have  potato system 
there now, but would just like to install it directly this time since 
upgrading from slink did not go very well the first time.


I downloaded the boot floppy and root disk and the base2_2.tgz files 
et al, I intend to install the base though nfs, however when I 
configured the network in dbootstrap it failed to initialize my NIC, 
ok so they did not include a driver for it, I so i recompile a new 
kernel with the appropriate options and install it on the floppy, 
everything seems to work, except now dbootstrap wants to have 
drivers-2.2.13.tgz and resc1440-2.2.13.bin instead of drivers.tgz and 
resc1440.bin (I did run the rdev.sh script btw)


is this just because I used a 2.2.13 kernel instead of 2.2.12?  I 
don't see why this would matter...  would renaming the files be an 
acceptable solution?


if I missed a piece of documentation somewhere please point me in 
that direction :)


also will it work to restore my current /var/cache/apt/ with the one 
i have now to save downloading packages that are there now?


thanks


Best Regards,
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Re: Printers..

1999-11-05 Thread Brian Servis
*- On  5 Nov, Andrew Clark wrote about "Printers.."
> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good printer?  (I can get a HP
> DJ 550 off my dad, will that work ok with Linux?)
> 

No problem.  Install the gs-aladdin package which is compiled with the
hpdj driver and has a specific driver for the 550 and many other hpdj
printers.

> Also is it possible to set a printer on a Linux box on a LAN and have
> the Win9x/NT machines print on it?  If so is it really hard to setup?
> 

Samba will make this possible.  Just make a local printer available that
passes the print data from the win machines directly to the printer
without using a filter.  That way you can install the printer driver on
the win machines and take full advantage of the native win print
drivers.  Read the SMB-HOWTO and the doc in the samba-doc package.

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Re: gtk+ 1.2?

1999-11-05 Thread Kenneth Scharf
libgtk++ is one of a few 'moving targets' that debian
can't keep up with.  Another is wine.  Also VDK and
gEDA.  So I have been downloading sources from their
home sites and building my own in /usr/local/src. 
This works but you must include /usr/local in your
path.  Also add /usr/local/lib to your /etc/ld.so.conf
and run ldconfig after building the libraries.  You
could also download the source from unstable and then
use dpkg-source -x and dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc to
build your own .deb's under your current version of
libc.  Only problem is I think that when you DO
upgrade to potato dselect won't grab the latest
versions of the packages you built since it will think
they are the same version and then you will still have
the versions built against the older libc.  You of
course could un-install and re-install the packages. 

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Booting from floopy slow

1999-11-05 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
I installed Debian slink in a second hard drive, which is hdb1 (there
are hda1 to hda4), my system does not allow booting from a slave hard
drive, so I use the floppy system, but it is very slow. What can I do to
accelerate it? Is there any command to type that will speed it, say
redirect it to hdb1? When I made the installation I also enabled booting
from hard disk.
Thanks,
Antonio


Re: SB Live

1999-11-05 Thread Jean-Yves BARBIER
On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 02:29:44AM +0100, Jean-Yves BARBIER wrote:
> Raaahhh, too simple: there are many things to change :((

Sorry, forget it: the PB was comming from the include directories
as many people, I began with 2.0.36, which is always set in /usr/include;
so I just changed, in Makefile INLCUDEDIR from /usr/include to :
/usr/src/linux/include. And now everything's allright :))

JY
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Re: Menus in X Windows

1999-11-05 Thread Wouter Hanegraaff
On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 10:11:38PM -0600, David J. Kanter wrote:
> Just how is it that all my window managers can essentially show the same
> menu entrues, such as when I click on the root window? For instance, in E I
> can click Debian, and I see all the selections that I'd see with Window
> Maker, fvwm2, etc.
Menus in debian are handled by the menu package.
Not only window manager menus btw: have a look at pdmenu

Wouter


Re: Obscure Hardware

1999-11-05 Thread Jean-Yves BARBIER
On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 01:50:51PM +1100, Andrew Clark wrote:
> I'm wondering if anyone out there knows where I could get a pH probe
> with serial output and a water hardness probe with serial output.

Hi Andrew,

You can call HANNA INSTRUMENTS, they have a Ph-meter with RS232

Sorry I don't have the address nor ohne number.

JY
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Re: uninstall/reinstall

1999-11-05 Thread Ingo Reimann
On Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 02:08:50PM -0800, Corey Edwards wrote:
> Your idea sounds good to me, but I'm new to apt having just
> installed it last week. I do know, however, that dpkg -i
> package-name.deb will replace the package and keep all the
> dependencies correctly, so if you want to download the
> actual deb file, you could do that.
>

Thanks Corey,

my problem is, that i don't see the most simple solution. 
apt-get install checks, if the package is already installed
dpkg -i does not, so you are right. 

Regards,

Ingo



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Re: Bug in smbmount?

1999-11-05 Thread Åsmund Ødegård
Thu, 04 Nov skrev Debian Mail:
> I again have an 
> ls: n: Input/output error
> Now I'm quite sure smbmount is causing these troubles. Anyone
> experienced similar problems with smbmount?

We have the same problems with several linux-boxes here. umount once a day keep
the problem away...

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Re: Recommendations for Laptop

1999-11-05 Thread Martin Fluch
On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Anthony Campbell wrote:

> On 05 Nov 1999, Andrew Clark wrote:
> > I would like to get a laptop and run Debian on it.  Does anyone have
> > any recommendations for machines/manufactures to buy or avoid?
> > 
> > Regards, Andrew Clark.

IBM ThinkPads are marvelous ... I by myselfe have an TP 770, and I use it
as an desktop alternative. Some links on Linux on ThinkPads:

http://mfluch.uni-hd.de/tp770.html
http://www.bm-soft.com/~bm/tp770x.html
http://www.baiti.net/tp770x
http://jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu/~thood/tp600lnx.htm

Martin


PS: I've never seen a better keyboard, than on my machine...

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Re: scsi boot install

1999-11-05 Thread Onno

This is an old slink bug, there are install disks for the
Adaptec SCSI controller you have, look at the mail
archives.

The potato indtall disks seems to work fine...

Regards,

Onno


At 10:04 PM 11/4/99 -0600, Lyno Sullivan wrote:

At 05:10 PM 11/1/99 -0500, Joe Miklojcik wrote:
>Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
>scsi : 0 hosts.
>scsi : detected total.

I don't know if your problem is related to mine but I also cannot boot 
Debian 2.1 with an Adaptec SCSI controller.  Redhat works fine for me 
too.  I was advised in a previous post that the scsi driver in Debian 2.1 
has problems.  I have given up on Debian for now and will try again with 
the next release.  I am playing with Redhat while I wait.  I do not know 
what else I can do for now since I am too inexperienced to force my way 
through with Debian.


Re: console-tools-data errors on install.

1999-11-05 Thread Yann Dirson
Christian Dysthe writes:
 > On  2 Nov, Joey Hess wrote:
 > 
 > > console-tools does different things depending on if debconf is installed or
 > > not, but the bug is in console-tools.

Nope, it's in console-data ;)

 > I just want to make sure I understand this. If I install cosole-tools
 > without having debconf installed will console-tools be operating
 > differently than if I install it with debconf already present? 

Yes.  Without debconf, the old kbdconfig stuff will be used.

 > Also, will installing debconf later "update" console-tools to do these
 > "different things", or does "different things" just means it does the
 > same things differently?

On next console-data upgrade, the debconf-based stuff will be used.
New console-tools depending on new console-data this should work fine.

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Re: Driver for Compaq Netelligent network card

1999-11-05 Thread Onno

What chipset does it use???

Some Compaq cards use the intel pro 100
chipset, you could try that one...

Regards,

Onno

At 09:16 AM 11/4/99 -0500, Tim Ayers wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to install Debian GNU/Linux on a Compaq Deskpro 6000. I'm
stuck on getting the network to work. As far as I can tell the network
card is a "Netelligent 10/100 TX Embedded UTP Bus 0." Can anyone tell
me which driver goes with that? Thanks!

Hope you have a very nice day, :-)
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Re: (no subject)

1999-11-05 Thread Onno

At 05:38 PM 11/4/99 -0400, marin fernandez wrote:

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Not quite yet ;-)

Regards,

Onno



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Re: Installationsproblem bei Linux

1999-11-05 Thread Onno

To read German is easy for me (I'm Dutch) but to write in
German is not my best side so the answer is in good ol' plain
English:

Go to the second console with , hit enter,
and use: 'fdisk /dev/sda' for the first SCSI drive.
Make your Linux partition(s) here and a swap partition.
Make sure you make a boot floppy at the end of the install
process. If you can't boot LILO from the SCSI drive use
the boot floppy you made at the end of the install.
Boot into Linux, do the rest of the install. Then
edit /etc/lilo.conf and add at the top:

disk=/dev/sda
bios=0x80
disk=/dev/hda
bios=0x81

Add other SCSI and IDE disks if necessary.
Run 'lilo' to make things permanent.

See 'man lilo.conf' for more details.

Regards,

Onno



At 08:47 PM 11/4/99 +0100, Claus Kensy wrote:

Ich moechte gerne LINUX auf meinem PC installieren. Deshalb habe ich mir
eine rescue Floppy erzeugt, mit der ich den PC boote. Das funktioniert
wunderbar.
Danach komme ich -nach mehreren Schritten- zu dem Punkt eine Harddisk
auszuwaehlen.
Hier beginnt mein Problem.
Ich habe je eine HD an IDE1 und IDE2 und eine HD an SCSI ( Adaptec
1542 ) angeschlossen.
Zur Auswahl bekomme ich nur /dev/hda und /dev/hdc angeboten ( die IDE
HDs ).
Die SCSI HD erscheint nicht im Menue.

Was muss ich beim Prompt "boot:" angeben oder sonst tun, damit die SCSI
HD erkannt wird, sodass dann LINUX von CD auf dieser HD installiert
wird.

Vielen Dank fuer Ratschlaege.

Kensy


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Re: Recommendations for Laptop

1999-11-05 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 05 Nov 1999, Andrew Clark wrote:
> I would like to get a laptop and run Debian on it.  Does anyone have
> any recommendations for machines/manufactures to buy or avoid?
> 
> Regards, Andrew Clark.
> 
I'm using a Toshiba Satellite 4000CDT which is working very well; in
fact I use it in place of a desktop. If you are interested in this or a
similar machine, have a look at my website for some notes on setting up
Linux on it.

Anthony

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V99 #1917

1999-11-05 Thread Onno

At 10:35 AM 11/4/99 -0800, Glen S Mehn wrote:

>

The things:

Lilo must be on a primary, and bootable. Or at least shoudl be on a
primary. It can point whatever.

NT can be on whatever, but if you're using the NT bootloader, it needs
to be on primary. Highly suggested to use NT with FAT and not NTFS if
it's a dual boot machine.


I -NEVER- had any problems with NT and NTFS dual booting, I use
System Commander Deluxe 4.0 or LILO as a boot loader.

I strongly recommend to use NT with NTFS, the reasons are numerous
and obvious.

Regards,

Onno


Thassall.

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>
> Subject: Re: debian installation woes
> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 18:22:54 -0600
> From: John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Wayne Topa wrote:
> >
> > Subject: Re: debian installation woes
> > Date: Tue, Nov 02, 1999 at 10:59:08AM -0800
> >
> > In reply to:aphro
> >
> > Quoting aphro([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > > you can't boot a logical drive, it must be primary..
> > >
> > > nate
> >
> > OH??  Gee, I wonder why my potato dist is working so well
> > on hdb10.  A 1 gig logical partition, the last partition,
> > on a 6.4 gig drive.  Am I just lucky, or might you be mistaken?
> >
> > Where did this gem "it must be primary.." come from anyway?  I've
> > heard others "quote" this before.
> --
> Same here! I have both slink and potato each on logical partitions as
> well as Win98 with no probs. The only thing that I ever ran into was
> NT: that's one cow that will never fly, unless it's on the primary
> partition. That's likely because NTFS is incompatible with most
> anything
> else.
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Re: Menus in X Windows

1999-11-05 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 10:06:38PM -0600, David J. Kanter wrote:
> Just how is it that all my window managers can essentially show the same
> menu entrues, such as when I click on the root window? For instance, in E I
> can click Debian, and I see all the selections that I'd see with Window
> Maker, fvwm2, etc.
The wonderful debian menu package...You can even add your own entries in
/etc/menu. There should be some docs in /usr/doc/menu.

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Re: What 'keeps back' packages from apt-get?

1999-11-05 Thread Greg Starkes
Mark Zimmerman wrote:
> 
> Lately, I've been doing a 'apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade' every day
> to check up on how far I've drifted from the current potato baseline.
> There has been a gradually increasing number of packages that are
> 'kept back'; currently I get:

This should answer your question:

file:/usr/doc/apt/users-guide.html/ch4.html#s4.2.4

It reads:

4.2.4 The Kept Back list 

The following packages have been kept back
  compface man-db tetex-base msql libpaper svgalib1
  gs snmp arena lynx xpat2 groff xscreensaver

Whenever the whole system is being upgraded there is the possibility
that new versions of packages cannot be installed because they require
new things or conflict with already installed things. In this case the
package will appear in the Kept Back list. The best way to convince
packages listed there to install is with apt-get install or by using
dselect to resolve their problems.

Remember, when all else fails, read the documentation. I ran into this
earlier tonight. So the first place I looked was in /usr/doc/apt/

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Re: debian installer and adaptec 2940

1999-11-05 Thread Lyno Sullivan

At 09:25 PM 11/1/99 -0600, Gregory T. Norris wrote:
>Assuming that you're trying to install slink (2.1, stable
branch)
>rather than potato (unstable), I've got a set of unofficial
>install-disks setup specifically for this situation.  You can
snarf
>them from
.

I have wandered no less that 40 days and 40 nights in the darkness, yea,
I had drawn nigh unto the very gates of Debian hell and was in despair,
until you showed me your image.  Thank you, kind sir, it works like
a charm.

I had looked all over the Debian site and used several search engines and
tried one image after another, but I did not discover your solution,
until you posted to debian.user.  I have known that the problem was
my scsi driver for many days but I could not figure out how to get around
it.



What 'keeps back' packages from apt-get?

1999-11-05 Thread Mark Zimmerman
Lately, I've been doing a 'apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade' every day
to check up on how far I've drifted from the current potato baseline.
There has been a gradually increasing number of packages that are
'kept back'; currently I get:

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back
  lesstif-bin mutt netatalk 
67 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.

Is this normal? I don't have any packages deliberately put on hold in
dselect. I am wondering if these packages are flagged as held back at
the server or if there is some dependency problem on my end. If it is
on my end, how can I find out exactly what the problems are?

-- Mark Zimmerman


fvwm2 question

1999-11-05 Thread David J. Kanter
How can I get an xterm to start on a specific virtual desktop in fvwm2?

I've got this in my init-restart.hook:
+ "I" Exec xterm -xrm "*Page:0 2 1"

but that doesn't seem to work. I'm using the default Debian system.fvwm2rc
with one desktop but a 3x3 virtual set up.

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"Humans have an innate tendency to attribute significance to anomalies
and coincidences."
  -- John Allen Paulos, mathematics professor at Temple University


HD problem/kern.log.3gz

1999-11-05 Thread ktb
I was running the [EMAIL PROTECTED] program a month or so back and got up in the
morning and found my X screen completely frozen.  Ctrl-alt-delete or
Ctrl-alt-backspace had no effect. So I did a hard reset.  I got the
forced check as expected but in the final stages of the boot routine I
received errors flying by and couldn't boot into Debian.  I should
mention that my hard drive made a loud clunking noise I had never heard
before.  I tried several times to boot and the same thing happened.  I
gave up thinking my HD was blown.  A couple days ago I accidentally
booted the HD Debian is on and it booted fine.  I have booted twice now
and everything is ok.  I've looked at the log files but don't understand
what the error messages mean.  I was hoping someone could clue me in on
what is going on with my HD.  Sorry for the length of this message.
Thanks,
kent

/var/log/kern.log.3gz


Sep 28 12:29:13 www kernel: PPP line discipline registered. 
Sep 28 12:29:13 www kernel: Partition check: 
Sep 28 12:29:13 www kernel:  hda: hda1 
Sep 28 12:29:13 www kernel:  hdb: hdb1 hdb2 hdb3 < hdb5 hdb6 > 
Sep 28 12:29:13 www kernel: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
readonly. 
Sep 28 12:29:13 www kernel: Adding Swap: 72288k swap-space (priority -1) 
Sep 28 12:30:53 www kernel: registered device ppp0 
Sep 29 07:53:24 www kernel: hdb: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } 
Sep 29 07:53:24 www kernel: ide0: reset: success 
Sep 29 10:24:24 www kernel: hdb: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy } 
Sep 29 10:24:25 www kernel: ide0: reset: success 
Sep 29 19:43:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Sep 29 19:43:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
Sep 29 19:43:52 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
53750 
Sep 29 19:43:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Sep 29 19:43:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
Sep 29 19:43:52 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
53750 
Sep 29 19:53:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Sep 29 19:53:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
Sep 29 19:53:52 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
53750 
Sep 29 20:03:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Sep 29 20:03:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
Sep 29 20:03:52 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
53750 
Sep 29 20:13:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Sep 29 20:13:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
Sep 29 20:13:52 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
53750 
Sep 29 20:23:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Sep 29 20:23:52 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
Sep 29 20:23:52 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
53750 
Sep 29 20:33:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Sep 29 20:33:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
Sep 29 20:33:53 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
53750 
Sep 29 20:43:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Sep 29 20:43:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
Sep 29 20:43:53 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
53750 
Sep 29 20:53:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Sep 29 20:53:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
Sep 29 20:53:53 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
53750 
Sep 29 21:03:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Sep 29 21:03:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
Sep 29 21:03:53 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
53750 
Sep 29 21:13:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Sep 29 21:13:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
Sep 29 21:13:53 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
53750 
Sep 29 21:23:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 
Sep 29 21:23:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0xa0 { BadSector },
LBAsect=4696598, sector=53750 
Sep 29 21:23:53 www kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:46, sector
53750 
Sep 29 21:33:53 www kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataReq

Can't change window managers "on the fly"

1999-11-05 Thread David J. Kanter
I used to be able to change window managers "on the fly" by selecting a
manager from the Window Managers menu. But after updating a few managers to
the Potato version, selecting a new manager from the Window Manager menu
kicks me out to the xbanner login. Any ideas?

-- 
David J. Kanter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Humans have an innate tendency to attribute significance to anomalies
and coincidences."
  -- John Allen Paulos, mathematics professor at Temple University


Menus in X Windows

1999-11-05 Thread David J. Kanter
Just how is it that all my window managers can essentially show the same
menu entrues, such as when I click on the root window? For instance, in E I
can click Debian, and I see all the selections that I'd see with Window
Maker, fvwm2, etc.

How does this happen? Is there a central menu file that all the managers can
read? Or is it that the packages are maintained so nicely that part of the
installation is to put menu entries in the appropriate "language" for each
window manager?
-- 
David J. Kanter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Humans have an innate tendency to attribute significance to anomalies
and coincidences."
  -- John Allen Paulos, mathematics professor at Temple University


Re: Sources of linux documentation

1999-11-05 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 03:50:55AM +, Chris Schleifer wrote:
> > Now you can compile the file debian-tutorial.tex by using latex. In my 
> > linux box the
> > compiling process stops because the file "html.sty" is not installed. Where 
> > can this
> > file by obtained from? Is it available in any package?

Actually, it's in the latex2html package.

Ben


Re: Sources of linux documentation

1999-11-05 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 03:50:55AM +, Chris Schleifer wrote:
> >
> > Now you can compile the file debian-tutorial.tex by using latex. In my 
> > linux box the
> > compiling process stops because the file "html.sty" is not installed. Where 
> > can this
> > file by obtained from? Is it available in any package?

Do you have tetex-extra installed?

Ben


Re: scsi boot install

1999-11-05 Thread Lyno Sullivan

At 05:10 PM 11/1/99 -0500, Joe Miklojcik wrote:
>Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
>scsi : 0 hosts.
>scsi : detected total.

I don't know if your problem is related to mine but I also cannot boot
Debian 2.1 with an Adaptec SCSI controller.  Redhat works fine for
me too.  I was advised in a previous post that the scsi driver in
Debian 2.1 has problems.  I have given up on Debian for now and will
try again with the next release.  I am playing with Redhat while I
wait.  I do not know what else I can do for now since I am too
inexperienced to force my way through with Debian.



Re: Sources of linux documentation

1999-11-05 Thread Chris Schleifer
Hi,
I don't know a thing about the debian-guide package and this answer seems 
obvious so
forgive me if I'm offbase here.
I see html.sty in the directory you listed but the permissions are wrong. Doing 
a
'chmod o+r html.sty' in that directory should fix your problem.

Chris Schleifer

Manuel Arenaz Silva wrote:

> > I've tried some three times to get a book compressed in that bz2 format
> > uncomperessed to a readable version. But no LaTex, TeX or LyX ever could
> > read that stuff.
> >
> > Is there something in general wrong with that bz2 format or are there
> > available some brand new TeX formats, which no Slink latex can read?
>
> In first place, you have to decompress the debian-guide.tar.bz2 file by using:
>
>   tar -xvIf debian-guide.tar.bz2
>
> This command generates following files:
>
> -rwxr-xr-x   1 1000 arenaz 55 Jun 10 21:02 clean.sh
> -rw-r--r--   1 1000 arenaz 412100 Jul  1 18:16 coart.eps
> -rw-r--r--   1 1000 arenaz 347507 Nov  3 12:26 debian-tutorial.tex
> -rw-r--r--   1 1000 arenaz  27378 Jun  6 21:32 debian.cls
> -rw-r--r--   1 1000 arenaz   8606 Jun  7 03:37 debian10.clo
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root 1048 Nov  3 12:05 debian10.log
> -rw-r-   1 arenaz   340024367 Nov  3 12:11 html.sty
> drwxr-sr-x   2 1000 arenaz   1024 Jul  1 18:16 images
> -rwxr-xr-x   1 1000 arenaz258 Jun 11 17:39 remake.sh
>
> Now you can compile the file debian-tutorial.tex by using latex. In my linux 
> box the
> compiling process stops because the file "html.sty" is not installed. Where 
> can this
> file by obtained from? Is it available in any package?
>
> Thanks,
>
>   Manuel Arenaz
>
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Apache & Listening on another IP...

1999-11-05 Thread Brant Wells

Hi all

I have apache installed on my Linux boxI need to get apache to listen on 
another ip address in order to be my web server... Can someone tell me how 
to do that?


TCP/IP is working. This is a home network, btw  My main Server, DaHouse 
is running windows 2000, with the dialup connections shared.  Linuxbox (my 
computer while it's running Debian) has the Apache web server.  How can I 
make Apache listen to the IP address of DaHouse?


Thanks,

Brant Wells

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eql

1999-11-05 Thread steve j . kondik
i've been trying to get eql working on a potato box without much luck.
the two ppp links come up fine (and i've set nodefaultroute in the options),
i do and ifconfig eql up ip, eql_enslave eql pppx 57600 for each of the
links, then route add default eql, and it refuses to route.  the isp
is set up correctly to handle the connection, and it is a static ip.  if
anyone has any experience with this, or could point me to some better
documentation, i'd appreciate it.

thanks!
-steve


fvwm beta packages

1999-11-05 Thread Dale Miller
Does anyone know if the beta fvwm2 2.3.x have been packaged for Debian.
I have tried to find this information but have had no luck. If so could
someone point me to where I could find these packages.

Thanks

Dale


Re: Printers..

1999-11-05 Thread Mark Zimmerman
On Fri, Nov 05, 1999 at 01:23:24PM +1100, Andrew Clark wrote:
> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good printer?  (I can get a HP
> DJ 550 off my dad, will that work ok with Linux?)

Yes, I used to have one and it worked fine.

> Also is it possible to set a printer on a Linux box on a LAN and have
> the Win9x/NT machines print on it?  If so is it really hard to setup?

Look into samba. It's easy to do what you need; there is a HOWTO
somewhere.


Obscure Hardware

1999-11-05 Thread Andrew Clark
I'm wondering if anyone out there knows where I could get a pH probe
with serial output and a water hardness probe with serial output.

--
Regards,
Andrew Clark.



Problems printing from one box to another

1999-11-05 Thread Alec Smith
In the past I've been able to print from one Debian 2.1 box to another
Debian 2.1 box without difficulty. However I recently reinstalled
Debian 2.1 on the server machine, and can't do any printing from
remote machines unless I'm using Samba. I'd like to know what's going on
so I can get back to a "normal" configuration involving just lpr/lpd.


The Workstation setup:

Debian 2.1 / kernel 2.3.25
Machine IP: 130.108.229.32

/etc/printcap looks like:

lp|dj870|HP DeskJet 870Cse:\
:lp=:\
:rm=130.108.229.38:\
:rp=lp:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:


The sever box:

Debian 2.1 / kernel 2.2.13
Machine IP: 130.108.229.38

/etc/hosts.allow has:

ALL: 130.108.229


/etc/hosts.lpd has:

ALL: 130.108.229


Printing on the server machine itself works fine, so the /etc/printcap
there should be OK. Any ideas where to go next?


TIA,
Alec


Re: Minicom and LISP

1999-11-05 Thread John Hasler
Randy M.Kaplan writes:

> Does anyone Minicom or LISP are included with the Debian distribution?

Minicom is in Debian, as are several dialects of the computer language
lisp.  Look for clisp.

> I am trying to get my machine in a state where I can connect it to the
> web and download stuff onto it.

Do you have your network connecion working?  If so dselect can download
stuff itself.
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Printers..

1999-11-05 Thread Andrew Clark
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good printer?  (I can get a HP
DJ 550 off my dad, will that work ok with Linux?)

Also is it possible to set a printer on a Linux box on a LAN and have
the Win9x/NT machines print on it?  If so is it really hard to setup?

Any info is appreciated.

--
Regards,
Andrew Clark.



Re: SMTP with password on Pine?

1999-11-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
Uurcus the Swale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Does Pine work with SMTP servers that require login/password?

That is not SMTP.  First, find out what protocol it's really using
(some proprietary extension to SMTP, perhaps?).

Normally, pine does not communicate via SMTP at all.  It should be
invoking a local MTA (e.g., /usr/sbin/sendmail) to perform the SMTP
mail delivery.  So whatever messed-up protocol your "SMTP server" is
actually speaking, make sure your local MTA speaks it.

Or just bypass your service provider's "SMTP server" altogether.
Your copy of exim, sendmail or whatever should be capable of delivering
mail to its final destination.  (The drawback is that if a message can't
be delivered immediately, it will sit in a queue on your local system.
If you're not permanently connected to the Internet, you would have to
account for this -- there are several methods.)

-- 
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