Re: Cheap printer?

[Dave Sherohman]

Jeff Noxon said:
> I would personally suggest a used laser printer.  I see HP laserjets at
> garage sales all the time (although I am sure the situation may be very
> different where you are.)  Toner costs a LOT less than ink.

Not just garage sales - do a search on "printer postscript" on eBay and
you'll turn up all kinds of 'em.

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1024-char block ll_rw error...?

[Jeff Gordon]

(Forgive me if this is a repost; I subscribed this morning, confirming
-after- I'd sent this to the list, and never saw it appear, so...)

I'm trying to run a little program, 'pxcsvdump', that extracts the
contents of Paradox tables -- but I'm seeing this error:

  ll_rw error: only 1024-char blocks implemented
  
The author of 'pxcsvdump' doesn't know what to make of it, and says I'm
the first to report such an error -- so I'm guessing it's more about
the state of my Debian system than about his program.

(It's a mix of potato and woody, at this point.)

Any ideas, clues, about how I could fix this...?

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...Mutt / GnuPG...

[Jeff Gordon]

Since some recent updates, GPG reports it isn't allowed to handle the
already-open temp file Mutt points it to...?

Anybody else experiencing this; anyone got an answer to it?

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Re: Helix sawfish and minimizing

[Eric G . Miller]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:01:21PM -0400, Stuart Ballard wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed that it's impossible to minimize just one window
> if others have the same title? I frequently have lots of terminal
> windows up and if I try to minimize one, they all disappear.
> 
> I'm using up-to-the-second helix GNOME on woody - so I guess I should
> technically take it up with helix. Just wondering if anyone else has
> been seeing the same thing, though...

Perhaps, the "group windows" option is set in your sawfish
configuration?  I forget the title of the option exactly, but it sets a
variable for sawfish telling it to iconify all windows in a group (same
application).  I've always had that turned off when using saw{mill|fish}
so I don't know if that's the culprit.  Last I used sawfish it
apparently had a terrible memory leak (or at least, the memory leakage
went away when I switch to icewm-gnome -- the memory leak showed up
under the X server, but I suspect it was the window manager's fault).

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Newbie: How to get XFree... to work on my Compaq PC Ver. OF15; Model 1200-XL119

[Steve Voelkel]

I'd really appreciate some help: can't get X (graphics) to work on the
above machine.
Struggled through and finally got a largish set of packages installed
but can't get my graphics to work.  I guess it's because it doesn't
recognize my chipset.  Here are data the manual (O'Reilly) asks for on
pp. 3-4:
Hard drive: 6007MB; Toshiba MK6014MAP; IDE; Set for LBA Mode? (Large
disk
Access Mode= DOS... guess answer is NO.)
ATAPI CD-ROM; IDE Nec CD-Rom DRive: 282 CDROM; Firmware Rev. 5.12
Mouse: Snynaptics PS/2 TouchPad with IBM Model 001 M-L plugged into
keyboard/
mouse port; 2 buttons
Video Adapter (= Graphics Controller?): Trident CyberBlade i7 with 4MB
video RAM
I don't mind further reading of docs. if you can point to help (I've
been reading for about four wees now);  Problem seems associated with
configuring XFree... but I don't know how/whether the chipset is
recognized/workable.
Thanks a million for any help.

Re: Helix sawfish and minimizing

[Rogerio Brito]

On Jun 29 2000, Stuart Ballard wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed that it's impossible to minimize just one
> window if others have the same title? I frequently have lots of
> terminal windows up and if I try to minimize one, they all
> disappear.

I just tried this now and it seems to be working perfectly
well with Helix GNOME (the 2nd RC of theirs). Here is the
version:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
ii  sawfish0.27.2-helix3  a highly configurable window manager for X11
ii  sawfish-gnome  0.27.2-helix3  GNOME components for Sawfish
ii  sawfish-themes 0.2-helix1 A collection of sawfish themes from sawmill.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

So, they're not the bleeding edge like yours... Perhaps that
is the reason of the different behaviour?


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X Fonts

[Marcio Rosa da Silva]

Hi!

I installed debian on my laptop (yes, I know that there is a laptop list,
but I think the topic is more general) and I had a problem.

The default font in X (used in netscape and jpilot) are too big. It's good
when you use 1024x768 resolution, but my laptop only supports 800x600.

I looked for the file to change this behavior, but couldn't solve the
problem.

So, how can I change this?

Thanks!

Marcio


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Re: Trident giving me migraine

[Tom von Schwerdtner]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 09:38:52PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Mark Marburger wrote:
> > 
> > HELP!  my old video card sucked, so my friend gave me his Trident card.  I
> > put it in the box and now when i boot, the screen is friggin black  How
> > do I get into xf86config to change the settings??
> 

I had what could be a similar problem when I was trying to get my voodoo 3 to
work.  I had foolishly set my box to runlevel 5 so it kept trying to fire up
gdm on boot, and it would keep trying, failing, retrying without givimg me
enough time to even hig ctrl-alt-backspace or switch to another tty to shut
things down.  
I eventually fixed it by booting via the Mandrake CD (which is what's on that 
box)
and when I got to the installation part, I switched over to another tty (F4 I 
think) 
which was set up in single user mode (could be a nasty security flaw, but). 
 From 
there I could get to the main drive and alter the init files to change to 
runlevel 3, 
and reboot.

-tom

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Re: Trident giving me migraine

[Kent West]

Mark Marburger wrote:
> 
> HELP!  my old video card sucked, so my friend gave me his Trident card.  I
> put it in the box and now when i boot, the screen is friggin black  How
> do I get into xf86config to change the settings??

Are you automatically booting into X (via xdm, gdm, wdm, or startx in a
.bashrc/.bash_profile, etc) or into a text-mode console? If X, try
Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to the first virtual (text) console, where you can
then do what's needed to straighten out the problem.

If you're not booting into X, are you getting a black screen during the
boot process, or just at/about when you get to the login prompt, or
when?

Do you see the BIOS/POST messages? If not, the hardware has a problem,
and editing XF86Config won't do you any good.

> And how the hell do I keep from getting 27,000 emails from this user list???

You might unsubscribe from the list, and subscribe to the digest
instead. See www.debian.org, then follow the link on the left of the
page to subscriptions, then scroll down the page to subscribe to the
digest.

Re: free Internet access

[Kent West]

Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> 
>  Hello,
> 
> I recall many months ago that there was an ISP allowing linux users to
> use the free internet access as long as we set our "home" to there
> main page What was that provider? I need temporary access until
> I can find an affordabe DSL provider willing to provide a static IP.

The one I know of is www.freewwweb.com. I use it as my backup, and it
has been pretty reliable.

Re: FTP server and security

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya jay...

to enable anonymous user access to your server...
just remove "real" from the list  in /etc/ftpaccess
( real users ( people) won't be able to login..
( and play with the /etc/ftp* files to get what you looking for..

there are owner/group permissions and uid/gid that need to be
checked to minimize ftp problems. there was a site that had
 a list of stuff to check...stuff like "touch ~ftp/{.rhosts,.forward,
etc}"

if you want secure ftp ( encrypted sessions/passwds )..
i'd use sftpd/sftp instead from the ssh2 package...
donno of any other secure ftp...

have fun
alvin

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Jay Kelly wrote:

> Hello Group,
> I want to enable my potato box as a ftp server, I have removed proftpd
> and installed ftpd. I remember when install debian I said no to
> start the FTP server. Where do I enable this to start the server at
> boot time? Also is it true the enabling the ftp server will open
> up my server for attacks? How much security will be lost doing this?
> I want to enable anonymous login so I link my web to the ftp server.
> I read the man pages anf there is very little on setting this up.
> Thanks Guys for all your help.
> Jay
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GNOME+Sawmill workspaces

[Ed Cogburn]

I have GNOME and Sawmill/Sawfish (latest debs from potato/woody) and
I want to have 4 workspaces in a horizontal row.  The GNOME pager
works as I want it to, except that Sawmill allows moving the cursor to
the top or bottom of the screen as a way to change workspaces just
like moving the cursor to the left or right side of the screen, where
top=left and bottom=right.  I want it to not allow changing workspaces
by using the top and bottom of the screen so I can use Gnome's toolbar
along the bottom of the screen with auto-hide on without any annoying
interaction.  Does anyone know if this can be done?


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Re: Problem setting up Dialin PPP server

[Eric G . Miller]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 08:14:10PM +0530, Nagarjuna G. wrote:
> After setting up the ppp server, when I try to connect to the server
> ppp starts and immediately stops with the following error: peer refused to
> authenticate.  Any clues?

Dialin servers almost never will authenticate to the client (unless you
have a WAN).  Your client ppp setup apparently is asking the server to
authenticate itself to the client.  You'll have to turn that off.  Did
you use pppconfig for the client? If you want the server to authenticate
itself to the client, then you'll have to configure it to do so (but
probably not what you want).  The pap or chap authentication of the
server will refuse connections from clients that don't authenticate
themselves to the server (which is probably what you want) or when
authentication fails (bad user/password pair).

On your dialup, your /etc/ppp/peers/"provider" file should have an entry
of "noauth" so it doesn't ask the server to authenticate itself.

> Jun 29 20:10:32 hbcse pppd[31618]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x1d8b13a]
> Jun 29 20:10:32 hbcse pppd[31618]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x2afb0af]
> Jun 29 20:10:32 hbcse pppd[31618]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x3 "peer refused to
> authenticate"]
> Jun 29 20:10:32 hbcse pppd[31618]: LCP terminated by peer (peer refused to
> authenticate)
> Jun 29 20:10:32 hbcse pppd[31618]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x3]
> Jun 29 20:10:33 hbcse pppd[31618]: Modem hangup
> Jun 29 20:10:33 hbcse pppd[31618]: Connection terminated.
> Jun 29 20:10:34 hbcse pppd[31618]: Exit.
> Jun 29 20:12:00 hbcse /USR/SBIN/CRON[316
> 
> 
> Nagarjuna
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RE: How to get dependencies also ...

[Sven Richter]

Just use apt-setup an select a ftp-server as a source than dselect loads first
every package down which is needed
see ya
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free Internet access

[Jaye Inabnit ke6sls]

 Hello,

I recall many months ago that there was an ISP allowing linux users to
use the free internet access as long as we set our "home" to there 
main page What was that provider? I need temporary access until
I can find an affordabe DSL provider willing to provide a static IP.

Thank you
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Re: Booting from network

[Jim Koontz]

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, C. Falconer wrote:

> Sorry - missed the original on this...
> 
> Do you have a rarpd server on the network?  Later kernel 2.3 and all 2.4 
> does not support rarp any more (I have the same problem, and rarpd the new 
> daemon for rarp won't compile for me)

See, I knew I was overlooking something!  I loaded the kernel module for
rarp support, and added entries into the rarp tables for the client
machine, but neglected to start a listener -- rarpd!

Unfortunately, I had the same experience you did, there is no rarpd in my
distribution.  I was able to download the source for rarpd from
dimensia.org (found it on freshmeat).  Although it was somewhat of a PITA,
I did get it to compile.  I still am having the same errors though...

> 
> 
> At 08:46 AM 6/28/00 +1000, you wrote:
> > > "Jim" == Jim Koontz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > Jim> When I boot the sparc machine, it displays this message:
> >
> > Jim> "Timeout waiting for ARP/RARP packet"
> >
> > Jim>
> >
> > Jim> Obviously, the server is not seeing the sparc client's
> > Jim> request, but I don't know what else to check.  Does anyone
> > Jim> have any suggestions?

Brian May wrote:
> >
> >Are you sure the server is not seeing the request? Or perhaps,
> >the sparc client cannot see the reply?

Yes, I am sure because I can see the activity on the hub -- the client is
sending, but the server never responds.  Also, no connection is recorded
in the logs.

> >Use tcpdump on the server to find out if the server is responding or
> >not.

I'll give this a try, maybe I can get more debugging data...

Thanks guys!

Jim Koontz

Re: ip forwarding

[Chris Hellberg]

Nick wrote:
> 
> i have a 2.1 debain system w/ 2.215 kernel
> 
> i want to have a webserver inside my firewall.  Therefore i need to forward
> the requests for port 80 to the inside machine.  So far it is set up to do
> ipmasq w/ ipchains
> 
> i installed the ipportfw and ipmasq packages and tried the following at the
> command line.
> 
> ipportfw -A -t xx.200.24.2/80 -R 192.168.1.11/80
> 

Nick,

I got the same problem as well even though everything seemed to be
compiled in the kernel. I found that using ipchains to start up a port
redirection. Unfortunately I'm not at a place to check the command
syntax but it's in the man page :)

Chris

Trident giving me migraine

[Mark Marburger]

HELP!  my old video card sucked, so my friend gave me his Trident card.  I 
put it in the box and now when i boot, the screen is friggin black  How 
do I get into xf86config to change the settings??


And how the hell do I keep from getting 27,000 emails from this user list???

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Re: how to start gnome

[Mike Thompson]

startx gnome-session

or

edit ~.xinitrc
and add
gnome-session 

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 02:29:19PM -0700, Nick wrote:
> i loaded gnome a long time ago and forgot how to start it
> 
> i have tried
> gnome-sessionand not luck

Re: Manipulating file content

[Bolan Meek]

Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
> 
> Bolan Meek wrote:
> 
> > > this one is for all the regexp, shell, and editing-experts...
> >
> > How about us perl hackers, hunh?!  Got sumpin' g'inst us, buddy!?

Maybe I ought have said "perl slackers". (Well, I can get
away with that since I resigned from PHADL).

> > Well, you could use regexp in sed, or use an awk script, but if
> > I had only 3x3 matrices to transform, in text, I'd

 WARNING!  BAD CODE!  WARNING! 
> > perl -e 'for ($i=0;$i<3;++$i){<>;@entry = split ',';print
> > "$i[0],$i[1],$i[2]\n";}'
> > with a file directed into it, and stdout redirected to a file.

Here's the replacement code, in a script, instead of a one-liner.
(I could've one-lined it, but this'll be more understandable:
look!  I even added _comments_)

#!/usr/bin/perl


while (<>)
{
chop;   #chop \n
$origCols = (@entry = split /,/);
for ($i = 0; $i < $origCols; ++$i)
{
$newRow[$i] .= "$entry[$i], ";
 }
 }

for ($j = 0; $j < $i; ++$j)
{
chop $newRow[$j];   # chop trailing ' '
chop $newRow[$j];   # chop trailing ','
print "$newRow[$j]\n";
 }

> What about matrixes with a different number of columns and rows (e.g.
> 4x3 or 123x234)?

I tested it with a 5x3 matrix.  It ought to handle arbitrary sizes,
but it doesn't test for "irregular" matrices, you know: something like
1,2,3,4,5
A,B,C,D,E,F,G
a,b,c
I,II,III,IV,V

Re: Manipulating file content

[Bolan Meek]

Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
> 
> Bolan Meek wrote:
> 
> > > this one is for all the regexp, shell, and editing-experts...
> >
> > How about us perl hackers, hunh?!  Got sumpin' g'inst us, buddy!?
> 
> Of course not!  How could I?!  :)

Well, we members of the Perl Hackers Anti-Defamation League
sometimes are a little touchy...

> 
> > Well, you could use regexp in sed, or use an awk script, but if
> > I had only 3x3 matrices to transform, in text, I'd
> > perl -e 'for ($i=0;$i<3;++$i){<>;@entry = split ',';print
> > "$i[0],$i[1],$i[2]\n";}'
> > with a file directed into it, and stdout redirected to a file.
> 
> This ..., well ..., it doesn't work.

(Head under the arm) Guess I ought have _tested_ that first, hunh?

> At first I thought that you meant @entry[x] in your last line,

Actually, I meant $entry[x]...

> but that doesn't help either.

Yes, I see that now.

> I always get  3 pairs of commas without the values.
> Besides, the way I read the code,
> it doesn't do anything usefull, because a line with values seperated by
> commas, will become exactly the same line.  But then again, I don't know
> anything about Perl, so this is just guessing.

No, you're right.  That was a >quick & stupid< of me.
> 
> > Matrixes with unpredetermined columns or rows become slightly
> > trickier, but only by 1) keeping track of the length/breadth, and
> > 2) nesting another loop.
> 
> What about matrixes with a different number of columns and rows (e.g.
> 4x3 or 123x234)?

OK.  I'll figure out why I'm not getting from my split what I
expect, correct my script, extend it for arbitrary matrices,
and get back to you.

(Boy, do I feel foolish...)  That's what I get for not actually
_testing_ my code.  I guess I'd better resign from the PHADL,
since I'm going to give us a bad name

ip forwarding

[Nick]

i have a 2.1 debain system w/ 2.215 kernel

i want to have a webserver inside my firewall.  Therefore i need to forward 
the requests for port 80 to the inside machine.  So far it is set up to do 
ipmasq w/ ipchains


i installed the ipportfw and ipmasq packages and tried the following at the 
command line.


ipportfw -A -t xx.200.24.2/80 -R 192.168.1.11/80

i got the following:
ipfwadm: setsockopt failed: protocol not available

i compiled my kernel with most of the network options:

icmp, ip_masq, socket stuff

any suggestions?

have access to internet from inside, and have icmp to ping too

Re: Which PGP?

[Daniel Free]

for windows i suggest freePGP

you can get it from http://www.pgpi.org/

umm have not tried setting pgp up in linux so i do not know : (

At 11:47 29/06/00 +0100, Wilson Yau wrote:

A quick question:

Could anyone please (from your experience) suggest to me the best PGP
plug-ins for mail clients like Netscape (both on Linux & Windows),
outlook & outlook express?

Many thanks.

Wilson


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gnome for potato

[Nick]

is there a binary package for potato

i have found one for woody and slink
but i like my potato box

help if possible.

Re: quick directory question

[Daniel Free]

I am currently learning to use awk myself but i think a silmple

$ ls -all -F | grep /$ | awk -F/ '{print $8}'
 ^^^

sets the seperator to / instead of whitespace. if this doesnt work try

$ ls -all -F | grep /$ | awk '{print $8}'|awk -F/ '{print $1}'

and that should about do it off the top of my head,

At 13:44 29/06/00 +, Andrew Kae wrote:

Hello,

I am trying to list all the directories in a directory and put it into a file.

So far I have :
$ ls -all -F | grep /$ | awk '{print $8}'
./
../
.netscape/
mail/

which almost gives me what i want but i need to get rid of that / at the 
end, can someone help me out?


If anyone has an easier way, can you let me know?

Thanks



PS. I feel a little embarrased asking such a simple question but o well =)

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2 things (ipmasq & apache mod_include)

[Daniel Free]

now this is basicly trying to kill to bords with one stone althugh the 
problems are unrealted.


1) ipmasq: In my flat my k6 200 running debian 2.2 is the firewall/gateway 
box. dialing up with a 33k modem etc. I have installed the package ipmasq 
and it worked sweetly.
the only problem i have is on the client machines (1 or 2 windows depending 
on the day and 1 or 2 linux also depnding) napster wont download. ppl can 
download from the clients through the firewall without a problem and have 
been doing so, however when we try top get a file (un copyrighted clasical 
music of course) it will start stop retry and the say its unavailable.
I am also unsure as to what logs i would be looking in for entries about 
what is happening here, any assitance would be great.



2) This one is work related and should probly bother me more, one of the 
web servers here (Debian 2.2 apache 1.3 (i think) ) has a perl script/cgi 
that is a basic text counter. we have had it running on previous servers 
but i cant seem to get it running on this one.
the script requires mod_include which i have uncommented in 
/etc/apache/httpd.conf and then done a /etc/init.d/apache restart. all to 
no avail. i have made a small page to test if it works and it hasnt so far. 
page consists of



this is the counter 








Which should give at least a little output to let me know its working, 
unfortunately it doesnt.



TIA

Re: Problems installing Netscape

[Bruce Sass]

On 29 Jun 2000, Gary Hennigan wrote:
> Nitebirdz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Just one more little question, since I'm new to Debian.  How can I notice
> > which packages are virtual and which other are not?  
> 
> Hmm. There are very few "virtual" packages. That's the only one I've

Everything listed when you do "grep Provides: /var/lib/dpkg/status" is a
virtual package (some just happen to have the same name as real
packages, or so it could be argued ;).


later,

Bruce

Re: Problems installing Netscape

[Gary Hennigan]

Nitebirdz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> That did it!  Thanks a lot, Gary!
> 
> Just one more little question, since I'm new to Debian.  How can I notice
> which packages are virtual and which other are not?  

Hmm. There are very few "virtual" packages. That's the only one I've
ever run across, and in potato they were able to do away with them for
netscape and use full-blown packages. Best way to do it is use
dselect. It's not fun to learn but it gives you a nice concise
description, including the fact that a package is just an installer.

Other than that you can read the descriptions manually in the
"Packages" files that debian uses. For apt these files are kept in
/var/state/apt/lists with "_Packages" at the end of the file name.

Glad you're up and running!
Gary

Re: Subscription List

[Ewing, Jeff I]

You need to send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Please see instructions at http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe


On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 04:47:03PM -0400, Andy & Page Hess wrote:
> Please put me on your subscription list. I am new to Linux and I am

Jeff

Modconf and Soundblaster

[Dinesh Nadarajah]

The last time I installed Potato, I was able to
install Soundblaster support using modconf. I have two
systems with SB16 and Sb AWE 32 cards in them. Which
drivers do I use to get these going and how can I
install the drivers without having to recompile the
Kernel?

Thanks in advance.

-Dinesh

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Re: Filtering Email in Pine

[Mark Brown]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 04:01:37PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:

> config for a special setting.  IMO the biggest problem with pine is that

Aside from the licensing?  :-)

> UW wants it to be really dumbed down for the novice users so they turn
> most features off by default.  Maybe it'd be a good idea for our

That's a perfectly reasonable decision for the target audience.  It's
very easy for people who don't know what their doing to seriously
misconfigure a mail client.

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Ugly console font

[Dinesh Nadarajah]

After I installed Debian 2.2 (potato), I found that
the system was using VGA type fonts instead of the
standard terminal fonts (not X windows). How can I get
rid of this? There are more than 25 lines on the
screen and some applications (like man) scroll only
the last 25 (very annoying).

Thanks.

-Dinesh

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RE: dynamic IP addressing

[Brooks R. Robinson]

Greetings,
Check out http://www.dyndns.org!  They provide dynamic DNS service free 
of
charge.  I recommend a the ddup-client from http://www.ddup.org.  It's
really easy to use, just set it up as a cron job.

Brooks


> > hello.
> >
> > i have an ethernet card attatched to a DSL modem.
> >
> > i'll provide more hardware details, if requested, but for now
> i'm just wondering
> > if there's a quick way to setting-up the dynammic
> ip-addressing. (preferrably:
> > without having to go through the "DynIP howto" in order to get
> a net-connection,
> > though it is very neat that a person can learn about networking
> by installing
> > this system.)
> >
> > i've already tried to install debian, and need to re-check to
> see if there are
> > any "tulip" ethernet-card drives available in the standard
> distribution, but
> > figured i'd send this question for now. (hopefully to get
> encouraged about
> > giving it another shot)

how to start gnome

[Nick]

i loaded gnome a long time ago and forgot how to start it

i have tried
gnome-sessionand not luck

Re: Manipulating file content

[Viktor Rosenfeld]

Bolan Meek wrote:

> > this one is for all the regexp, shell, and editing-experts...
> 
> How about us perl hackers, hunh?!  Got sumpin' g'inst us, buddy!?

Of course not!  How could I?!  :)


> Well, you could use regexp in sed, or use an awk script, but if
> I had only 3x3 matrices to transform, in text, I'd
> perl -e 'for ($i=0;$i<3;++$i){<>;@entry = split ',';print
> "$i[0],$i[1],$i[2]\n";}'
> with a file directed into it, and stdout redirected to a file.

This ..., well ..., it doesn't work.  At first I thought that you meant
@entry[x] in your last line, but that doesn't help either.  I always get
3 pairs of commas without the values.  Besides, the way I read the code,
it doesn't do anything usefull, because a line with values seperated by
commas, will become exactly the same line.  But then again, I don't know
anything about Perl, so this is just guessing.

> Matrixes with unpredetermined columns or rows become slightly
> trickier, but only by 1) keeping track of the length/breadth, and
> 2) nesting another loop.

What about matrixes with a different number of columns and rows (e.g.
4x3 or 123x234)?

MfG Viktor
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Re: telnet vs ^Z

[Will Trillich]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:51:35AM -0700, Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo wrote:
> Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > i've got linux in the basement, cranking and serving
> > like a dream. to administer, i'm upstairs and i get
> > in via telnet on my local 192.168.*.* intranet.
> > 
> > on the console (linux keyboard/mouse/monitor) i can
> > use ^Z to suspend a foreground job, just like in the
> > documentation.
> > 
> > but ^Z seems to be ignored when i get in via telnet
> > even tho stty shows 'susp = ^Z'.
> > 
> > now in know that tcsh has command-line settings that
> > can override stty items, such as '^W = werase' but
> > there's nothing i can see (perhaps i'm blind) that
> > would alter ^Z for suspend.
> > 
> > what's interfering?
> 
> telnet is. Before connecting, telnet is likely setting the signal
> handler for SIGSTOP to SIG_IGN so that it can pass the suspend
> character (^Z) to the romte connection. To suspend telnet, hit th
> escape character (^] by default) and type z (enter).

whoops. i didn't include enough info.

i'm not trying to suspend my local telnet session
(which i'm running from my mac os box). i'm trying
to suspend, say, the remote 'vi' or 'mutt' session.
my telnet does send every keystroke (except for
mac-specific command-key combos) to linux.

when i type control-Z in full-screen environment
such as vi or mutt, i see my telnet display blank
and then reappear in a fraction of a second
(kinda like ^L in vi, but ^L does a full redraw
so fast you often don't even see the blink).

..

so when i telnet in from remote, how do i get
^Z to suspend the local linux process?

Re: Problems installing Netscape

[Nitebirdz]

On 29 Jun 2000, Gary Hennigan wrote:

> Nitebirdz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I just installed Debian for the first time.  It is Debian 2.1 slink.  When
> > I try to install Netscape via apt-get I get the following error message:
> > 
> > Setting up netscape4 (4.0-15) ...
> > 
> > ERROR: The Netscape archive must be in /tmp, owned by root,
> >and under a name matching one of the following:
> >  communicator*-v4*.x86-*-linux*glibc*.tar*
> >  navigator*-v4*.x86-*-linux*glibc*.tar*
> > 
> >Archive files can be found on ftp.netscape.com and its mirrors.
> > 
> > dpkg: error processing netscape4 (--install):
> >  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> > Errors were encountered while processing:
> >  netscape4
> 
> The package in slink is a virtual package, meaning it doesn't actually
> contain any netscape programs, it just knows where to install
> them. You must manually download the *.tar.gz file from
> ftp.netscape.com and make sure you get a version with a file name that
> matches the pattern you got above, eg.,
> 
> communicator*-v4*.x86-*-linux*glibc*.tar*
> 
> Once you download the file from netscape simply copy it to /tmp and
> rerun the installation via apt-get.
> 
> Gary
> 

That did it!  Thanks a lot, Gary!

Just one more little question, since I'm new to Debian.  How can I notice
which packages are virtual and which other are not?  


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Subscription List

[Andy & Page Hess]

Please put me on your subscription list. I am new to Linux and 
I am having some problems. Hopefully someone will have some solutions to the 
problems.
 
My e-mail addressis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Thanks, Andy Hess

Re: How to get dependencies also ...

[Robert Waldner]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:01:41 PDT, Dinesh Nadarajah writes:
>I want to install a software package but I don't want
>to download each of it's dependencies and install them
>one by one. For e.g. if I wanted to install fvwm2,
>then is there a command like:
>
>apt-get -install fvwm2
>
>which will download not only fvwm2 but also all of
>it's dependencies and install them (after informing me
>of those dependencies)?

apt-get install fvwm2

(without the "-")

hth,
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Re: Debian and Webmin

[John Foster]

Dinesh Nadarajah wrote:
> 
> Has anyone tried managing Debian systems with Webmin
> (www.webmin.com)? It is a browser based system admin.
> tool for multiple OSs.
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good book to understand Linux
> (esp. Debian and RedHat) administration (including
> network admin).
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Dinesh
=
I started using Webmin on a Debian bo system a couple of years ago. It
is quite helpful for persons who are newbies to use for administering
systems where they are somewhat reluctant to get down and dirty with
Linux. I usually install it on every Linux system that I sell with
Debian Installed.
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Re: Filtering Email in Pine

[Ernest Johanson]

To be able to select messages and perform commands on them choose the
enable-aggregate-command-set option in the config section.

Ernest Johanson
Web Systems Administrator
Fuller Theological Seminary


On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Nitebirdz wrote:

> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:17:17 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Nitebirdz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Philippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: adam.edgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Filtering Email in Pine
> 
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Philippe wrote:
> 
> > Hi Adam,
> > 
> > it takes just seconds to filter mail in Pine. From main menu, type S for
> > setup. Then R for rules. Then F for filter. Then A for add. Give the rule
> > a nickname by replacing the "no value set" in the menu. Put the Debian
> > user list address on the "Cc:" line. At the bottom, choose the Folder you
> > want it moved to. Exit. You're half-way done! Repeat to set another rule
> > for which "From:" is the Debian address while "Cc:" is unspecified. That's
> > it.
> > 
> > pine is great. I've never used mutt. What's good about it?
> > 
> 
> It may be a rhetorical question, but just in case... some people like the
> fact that mutt automatically shows all the messages in threads news-style,
> which makes it a lot easier to read messages from the mailing lists.  I
> found a workaround to do something similar in pine though by sorting the
> messages according to the subject line and the date, so that all messages
> on the same topic are bundled together.  I also like pine better.  ;-)
> 
> I got another question for you though.  How do you select say all messages
> in a certain folder in pine?  Or perhaps from message 1 to message 45, in
> order to save them, delete them... whatever.  
> 
> 
> - 
> Nitebirdz
> http://www.linuxnovice.org
> Tips, articles, news, links...
> 

Re: Filtering Email in Pine

[Stuart Ballard]

"Noah L. Meyerhans" wrote:
> 
> There might be a special config option you need in order to turn this
> feature on.  If it doesn't work for you, let me know and I'll check my
> config for a special setting.  IMO the biggest problem with pine is that
> UW wants it to be really dumbed down for the novice users so they turn
> most features off by default.  Maybe it'd be a good idea for our
> unofficial Pine maintainer to create a better default pine.conf.

First act for any (advanced) pine user should be to go into the config
and turn on just about every enable-*-command flag. It's been a long
time since I used pine (these days I have a graphical workstation ;) -
plus I try to keep my vrms output as small as possible) but you should
certainly turn on everything interesting-looking in the config before
you start :)

Stuart.

Re: Debian and Webmin

[Jaldhar H. Vyas]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:

> Webmin is a nice tool. Back in April, Jaldhar H. Vyas was working on
> packages to include it in Debian. Jaldhar, do you have any news on those?

Yes, I am happy to report that my packages have not destroyed anyones
systems :-) and as there is a newer version out, I'll be uploading it to
unstable this weekend.

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Re: Filtering Email in Pine

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Nitebirdz wrote:

> I got another question for you though.  How do you select say all messages
> in a certain folder in pine?  Or perhaps from message 1 to message 45, in
> order to save them, delete them... whatever.  
> 

Use the semicolon (;) to mark messages.  Hitting ; willl bring up a list
of selection criteria to use in marking the messages.  You can select by
numbers, dates, text matching, status, etc.  You'll notice an 'X' in the
leftmost column of the index screen next to each of the items that
matched.  Then hit the 'a' key to perform as action such as delete, reply,
pipe, etc.

There might be a special config option you need in order to turn this
feature on.  If it doesn't work for you, let me know and I'll check my
config for a special setting.  IMO the biggest problem with pine is that
UW wants it to be really dumbed down for the novice users so they turn
most features off by default.  Maybe it'd be a good idea for our
unofficial Pine maintainer to create a better default pine.conf.

HTH,
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Re: Debian and Webmin

[J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 12:58:54 -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote:
> Has anyone tried managing Debian systems with Webmin (www.webmin.com)? It
> is a browser based system admin. tool for multiple OSs.

Webmin is a nice tool. Back in April, Jaldhar H. Vyas was working on
packages to include it in Debian. Jaldhar, do you have any news on those?

Ray
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Re: Cheap printer?

[Ron Farrer]

Harald Thingelstad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> First: What kind of a cheap printer do you want?
> The inkjet printers are known to be cheap to buy, but they charge a leg
> and an arm for the ink. 
> Some manufacturers are known to sell their printers with a net *loss*,
> earning their money on ink alone. Let's say you have to change the
> cartridges twice a year, for keeping them from drying out alone, and I
> guess you have paid the printer over again in two years!

I've had pretty good luck with an Epson Stylus Color 900. It's not too
expensive and provides the best printout I've seen from anything short
of a >$1000 printer. With the gimp-print gs driver (stp) you can use
almost all of the printers features (360, 720, and 1440DPI works!) and 
it comes VERY close to rivialing the Epson Win/Mac driver.  

> You can, of course, get refiller ink for both types, and this makes inkjet
> printers look a little brighter. Be sure to find a place where you
> actually can *buy* this sort of stuff, as I'm sure original ink pays the
> shops better and the printer manufacturers shun no means of telling you
> unoriginal ink might destroy your printer. ("Fat chance!", in many cases.)
> Anyway.

I buy refill kits from nujet in Texas (USA). I can get a black refill
kit from them for the same price as the back cartridge and you can
refill the cartridge 10 times! 

#include 

Before I had an ESC Pro and had to finally replace it because it was
going through ink like there is no tomorrow. After I got the ESC900
hooked up I couldn't believe how fast it was (12PPM black), how little
ink it uses, and what good quality it prints at. Of course YMMV, but
I now deal with two ESC900's and they are both excellent printers.  


HTH,

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How to get dependencies also ...

[Dinesh Nadarajah]

I want to install a software package but I don't want
to download each of it's dependencies and install them
one by one. For e.g. if I wanted to install fvwm2,
then is there a command like:

apt-get -install fvwm2

which will download not only fvwm2 but also all of
it's dependencies and install them (after informing me
of those dependencies)?

Also, how do I browse through the contents of a *.deb
package? (dpkg -I *.deb ???).

Thanks.

-Dinesh



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Debian and Webmin

[Dinesh Nadarajah]

Has anyone tried managing Debian systems with Webmin
(www.webmin.com)? It is a browser based system admin.
tool for multiple OSs.

Can anyone recommend a good book to understand Linux
(esp. Debian and RedHat) administration (including
network admin).

Thanks.

-Dinesh

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Re: Cheap printer?

[Jeff Noxon]

There is no such thing as a cheap inkjet printer IMHO.  They all cost a
fortune to operate.  They work on the razor blade principle -- they give
away the handle and expect to make money on the blades.

I would personally suggest a used laser printer.  I see HP laserjets at
garage sales all the time (although I am sure the situation may be very
different where you are.)  Toner costs a LOT less than ink.

Regards

Jeff

On 29 Jun 2000, Vicente Torres wrote:
> 
> I have recently bought an EPSON Stylus color 480
> for my home use.
> 
> It was a surprise for me to note that this printer has 
> no button to push and everything must be controlled from
> Windows (including changing or installing the ink cartridge!).
> 
> So, I must return it and buy another printer.
> Wich one would you recommend to me?
> It must be cheap; I do not want to use color on my printings
> and it must work fine with linux.

Re: Cheap printer?

[Harald Thingelstad]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Harald Thingelstad wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Vicente Torres wrote:
> ...
> > So, I must return it and buy another printer.
> > Wich one would you recommend to me?
> > It must be cheap; I do not want to use color on my printings
> > and it must work fine with linux.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> 
> What type of printer?
> Check the compatibility lists. 
> This means, the "Hardware HOWTO" in your HOWTO archive. If you don't have
> any, install the necessary package(s).

Forgot something:
Many laser printers can emulate standard Epson or HP printers, which
may be just fine. Check for the emulated printers in your Hardware HOWTO.

Harald


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an ardent will and here I am, poor fool, just as far behind as ever. 
No more advanced than before.
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RE: Cheap printer?

[Bill Barnes]

FWIW
Got into a tangle on another mailing list regarding inks, but here goes 
anyway.

I buy Amazon inks for my Epson Stylus 800 and had no problems until I tried 
bulk ink and refilling cartridges.  Print quality went south and is recovering 
with a return to new cartridges, but still not up to snuff.

Ditto for a friend of mine with a Canon.

Bill Barnes

>= Original Message From Harald Thingelstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Vicente Torres wrote:
>...
>> So, I must return it and buy another printer.
>> Wich one would you recommend to me?
>> It must be cheap; I do not want to use color on my printings
>> and it must work fine with linux.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>First: What kind of a cheap printer do you want?
>The inkjet printers are known to be cheap to buy, but they charge a leg
>and an arm for the ink.
>Some manufacturers are known to sell their printers with a net *loss*,
>earning their money on ink alone. Let's say you have to change the
>cartridges twice a year, for keeping them from drying out alone, and I
>guess you have paid the printer over again in two years!
>
>Nope, if you're not interested in colors, buy a laser. The cartridges are
>perhaps even more expensive, but they last many times longer.
>
>You can, of course, get refiller ink for both types, and this makes inkjet
>printers look a little brighter. Be sure to find a place where you
>actually can *buy* this sort of stuff, as I'm sure original ink pays the
>shops better and the printer manufacturers shun no means of telling you
>unoriginal ink might destroy your printer. ("Fat chance!", in many cases.)
>Anyway.
>Buy the next cheapest you can get, the absolute cheapest ones tend to be
>money out your window.
>
>Second:
>What type of printer?
>Check the compatibility lists.
>This means, the "Hardware HOWTO" in your HOWTO archive. If you don't have
>any, install the necessary package(s).
>
>Harald
>
>Philosophy, law, medicine and even theology, alas! I studied everything with
>an ardent will and here I am, poor fool, just as far behind as ever.
>No more advanced than before.
>Goethe - Faust
>
>
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problem with cdrom

[ANGELADURAND]

hi,
Can you help me?  My CD-ROM on the CPU seems to stop 
working, I put my CD in the drive and it doesn't seen to know it's there. lights 
flash but no response.  It use to start automatically but not 
anymore.  Went into the Device Management, says it's working but still I 
get no response from it.
Please help.

Re: netscape 4.73 & fortify (potato)

[Brad]

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 09:02:45AM -0600, Gary Hennigan wrote:
> JudiElaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[SNIP]
> > 
> > Anyone have any recommendations as to forcing the fortify,
> > downgrading netscape, or waiting for fortify to be upgraded?
> 
[SNIP]
> 
> I believe that due to the "relaxation" of US export control on
> cryptographic technology fortify will not be supporting any of the
> Netscape 4.73 or greater products.
> 
> Personally I downloaded the 4.73 *.tar.gz navigator file directly from
> Netscape, with strong encryption built in, and installed it in
> /usr/local.

If you're ambitious and have a few hundred free megs, you can do as i
did and replace the .nif files from the debian sources with those from
the Netscape 128-bit tarballs (4 total, one each for navigator and
communicator libc5 and 6. Just get the ones you'll use), and recompile
it for yourself. Except for those .nif files, everything is the same
between the two except for some directory layout changes.

You might want to edit the debian/installer file and change all
occurances of "for LIBC in 5 6;do" to "for LIBC in 6;do" so that you
won't waste time building libc5 versions (or, do the same to kill libc6
if you use libc5). There's probably a similar change for nav/comm, but
as i keep both installed (just in case i need to fill out a mailto form)
i haven't bothered looking into that one.

The main advantages of this are that it keeps things managed with the
Debian package system, and you get some of the Debian helper scripts.


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Re: Cheap printer?

[Harald Thingelstad]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Vicente Torres wrote:
...
> So, I must return it and buy another printer.
> Wich one would you recommend to me?
> It must be cheap; I do not want to use color on my printings
> and it must work fine with linux.
> 
> Thanks
> 

First: What kind of a cheap printer do you want?
The inkjet printers are known to be cheap to buy, but they charge a leg
and an arm for the ink. 
Some manufacturers are known to sell their printers with a net *loss*,
earning their money on ink alone. Let's say you have to change the
cartridges twice a year, for keeping them from drying out alone, and I
guess you have paid the printer over again in two years!

Nope, if you're not interested in colors, buy a laser. The cartridges are
perhaps even more expensive, but they last many times longer.

You can, of course, get refiller ink for both types, and this makes inkjet
printers look a little brighter. Be sure to find a place where you
actually can *buy* this sort of stuff, as I'm sure original ink pays the
shops better and the printer manufacturers shun no means of telling you
unoriginal ink might destroy your printer. ("Fat chance!", in many cases.)
Anyway.
Buy the next cheapest you can get, the absolute cheapest ones tend to be
money out your window.

Second:
What type of printer?
Check the compatibility lists. 
This means, the "Hardware HOWTO" in your HOWTO archive. If you don't have
any, install the necessary package(s).

Harald

Philosophy, law, medicine and even theology, alas! I studied everything with 
an ardent will and here I am, poor fool, just as far behind as ever. 
No more advanced than before.
Goethe - Faust

Re: Cheap printer?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 29 Jun 2000, Vicente Torres wrote:
> 
> I have recently bought an EPSON Stylus color 480
> for my home use.
> 
> It was a surprise for me to note that this printer has 
> no button to push and everything must be controlled from
> Windows (including changing or installing the ink cartridge!).
> 
> So, I must return it and buy another printer.
> Wich one would you recommend to me?
> It must be cheap; I do not want to use color on my printings
> and it must work fine with linux.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 

I'm using a Brother HL1040 laser printer which works very well with
Linux. I think this has now been replaced with a different model but it
should be much the same. It's a straight-through printer, which I find
is a big advantage.

Be careful, however; there are some cheaper Brother printers that are
Windows only.

Anthony


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FTP server and security

[Jay Kelly]

Hello Group,
I want to enable my potato box as a ftp server, I have removed proftpd
and installed ftpd. I remember when install debian I said no to
start the FTP server. Where do I enable this to start the server at
boot time? Also is it true the enabling the ftp server will open
up my server for attacks? How much security will be lost doing this?
I want to enable anonymous login so I link my web to the ftp server.
I read the man pages anf there is very little on setting this up.
Thanks Guys for all your help.
Jay
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Re: Password Comlexity

[Ben Collins]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 11:37:15AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> 
> On 29-Jun-2000 Sajjad Haider wrote:
> > Hello, 
> > 
> > I am a graduate student, just started working on the area of computer
> > security. Few months ago, when I used Debian OS, I remembered when you 
> > create
> > a new account and enter password for it, the kernel warns you if it
> > categorize the password as simple. 
> > I want to learn about the procedure with which the kernel decides that
> > whether a particular password string is complex or simple.
> > 
> 
> all chars and less than 6 characters
> a word in the dictionary is also commonly tested.
> 
> In PAM there is a cracklib module which checks passwords constantly, you 
> should
> look there as well.

Plus, it's not really the "kernel" that does this, it's the passwd program
(and whatever modules it uses). Currently in potato, pam_unix.so has some
simple sanity checks for simple passwords. They include:

palindromes - words that read the same backward and forwards, like busub
min length check
repition, like "badbad"

and a few others. You can look at the source for it in libpam. As Shaleh
pointed out, cracklib has some extra strength checking, including a
password history (so ppl can't keep using the same two passwords
alternately) and dictionary matching.

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Re: Filtering Email in Pine

[Nitebirdz]

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Philippe wrote:

> Hi Adam,
> 
> it takes just seconds to filter mail in Pine. From main menu, type S for
> setup. Then R for rules. Then F for filter. Then A for add. Give the rule
> a nickname by replacing the "no value set" in the menu. Put the Debian
> user list address on the "Cc:" line. At the bottom, choose the Folder you
> want it moved to. Exit. You're half-way done! Repeat to set another rule
> for which "From:" is the Debian address while "Cc:" is unspecified. That's
> it.
> 
> pine is great. I've never used mutt. What's good about it?
> 

It may be a rhetorical question, but just in case... some people like the
fact that mutt automatically shows all the messages in threads news-style,
which makes it a lot easier to read messages from the mailing lists.  I
found a workaround to do something similar in pine though by sorting the
messages according to the subject line and the date, so that all messages
on the same topic are bundled together.  I also like pine better.  ;-)

I got another question for you though.  How do you select say all messages
in a certain folder in pine?  Or perhaps from message 1 to message 45, in
order to save them, delete them... whatever.  


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Re: Postfix troubles

[Mark Brown]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 10:25:25AM -0400, S.Salman Ahmed wrote:

> I'll give that a try to see if that fixes the problem. Is there a
> problem with my myorigin/mydestination variables above ?

That looks reasonable, but according to the bounce you posted earlier on
mail is actually being given a domain part of phoenix.phoenix.  Try
adding that to mydestination and see where that gets you.

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RE: Password Comlexity

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 29-Jun-2000 Sajjad Haider wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> I am a graduate student, just started working on the area of computer
> security. Few months ago, when I used Debian OS, I remembered when you create
> a new account and enter password for it, the kernel warns you if it
> categorize the password as simple. 
> I want to learn about the procedure with which the kernel decides that
> whether a particular password string is complex or simple.
> 

all chars and less than 6 characters
a word in the dictionary is also commonly tested.

In PAM there is a cracklib module which checks passwords constantly, you should
look there as well.

Password Comlexity

[Sajjad Haider]

Hello, 

I am a graduate student, just started working on the area of computer security. 
Few months ago, when I used Debian OS, I remembered when you create a new 
account and enter password for it, the kernel warns you if it categorize the 
password as simple. 
I want to learn about the procedure with which the kernel decides that whether 
a particular password string is complex or simple.

Thanks in advance
Sajjad


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Re: Problems installing Netscape

[Gary Hennigan]

Nitebirdz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I just installed Debian for the first time.  It is Debian 2.1 slink.  When
> I try to install Netscape via apt-get I get the following error message:
> 
> Setting up netscape4 (4.0-15) ...
> 
> ERROR: The Netscape archive must be in /tmp, owned by root,
>and under a name matching one of the following:
>  communicator*-v4*.x86-*-linux*glibc*.tar*
>  navigator*-v4*.x86-*-linux*glibc*.tar*
> 
>Archive files can be found on ftp.netscape.com and its mirrors.
> 
> dpkg: error processing netscape4 (--install):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  netscape4

The package in slink is a virtual package, meaning it doesn't actually
contain any netscape programs, it just knows where to install
them. You must manually download the *.tar.gz file from
ftp.netscape.com and make sure you get a version with a file name that
matches the pattern you got above, eg.,

communicator*-v4*.x86-*-linux*glibc*.tar*

Once you download the file from netscape simply copy it to /tmp and
rerun the installation via apt-get.

Gary

telnet vs ^Z

[Will Trillich]

i've got linux in the basement, cranking and serving
like a dream. to administer, i'm upstairs and i get
in via telnet on my local 192.168.*.* intranet.

on the console (linux keyboard/mouse/monitor) i can
use ^Z to suspend a foreground job, just like in the
documentation.

but ^Z seems to be ignored when i get in via telnet
even tho stty shows 'susp = ^Z'.

now in know that tcsh has command-line settings that
can override stty items, such as '^W = werase' but
there's nothing i can see (perhaps i'm blind) that
would alter ^Z for suspend.

what's interfering?

% bindkey | grep Z
"^Z"   ->  tty-sigtsusp
"^[^Z" -> run-fg-editor

% stty -a
speed 9600 baud; rows 32; columns 132; line = 0;
intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^D; eol = ; eol2 = ;
start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R;
werase = ^W; lnext = ^V; flush = ^O; min = 1; time = 0;
-parenb -parodd cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts
-ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr
-igncr icrnl ixon -ixoff -iuclc -ixany -imaxbel
opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill
-ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0 vt0 ff0
isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh
-xcase -tostop -echoprt echoctl echoke

% printenv
REMOTEHOST=jonathon
TERM=vt220
HZ=100
HOME=/home/will
SHELL=/usr/bin/tcsh
PATH=/usr/lib/postgresql/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
USER=will
LOGNAME=will
MAIL=/var/spool/mail/will
LANG=C
HUSHLOGIN=FALSE
HOSTTYPE=i386-linux
VENDOR=intel
OSTYPE=linux
MACHTYPE=i386
SHLVL=1
PWD=/var/www/agf
GROUP=serensoft
HOST=server
EDITOR=vi
HOSTNAME=server
HISTSIZE=1000
HISTFILESIZE=1000
LESS=-M-Q-s
LESSEDIT=%E ?lt+%lt. %f
LESSOPEN=| lesspipe %s
VISUAL=vi
LESSCHARSET=latin1
PAGER=less

Problems installing Netscape

[Nitebirdz]

I just installed Debian for the first time.  It is Debian 2.1 slink.  When
I try to install Netscape via apt-get I get the following error message:

Setting up netscape4 (4.0-15) ...

ERROR: The Netscape archive must be in /tmp, owned by root,
   and under a name matching one of the following:
 communicator*-v4*.x86-*-linux*glibc*.tar*
 navigator*-v4*.x86-*-linux*glibc*.tar*

   Archive files can be found on ftp.netscape.com and its mirrors.

dpkg: error processing netscape4 (--install):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 netscape4


It happens with both netscap3 and netscape4.  Any suggestions?



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Re: terminal programming

[Riku Saikkonen]

Atila Nemet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Are there some good texts (tutorials, faqs, anything?) on web about
>how to write terminal independent programs? I need to a make a very

See /usr/share/doc/libncurses5-dev/ncurses-intro.html on your Debian
system (in the package libncurses5-dev, which you need for compiling
applications that use this library). Ncurses is the standard library
for text-mode terminal control.

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...error: "only 1024-char blocks implemented"...?

[Jeff Gordon]

I'm trying to install a little utility program suite, that extracts
information from Paradox database tables.

All goes well when I run 'pxcsvdump' to stdout -- but when I try:

  pxcsvdump my_file.db > my_file.txt
  
...linux produces an error like so:

 'll_rw error: only 1024-char blocks implemented'
 
I've been in touch with the programmer of 'pxcsvdump'; he doesn't quite
know what to make of it, and says mine is the first report of this sort
he's received.

Any ideas what's up with this, and how I might go about fixing it?

Thanks kindly,

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autofs and nis

[Suresh Kumar. R]

Hi,

How do we know that the auto.master and other autofs files are available
on the client machine via nis ? What I mean is , on a client machine
we can check for the availability of  the passwd files by typing 
ypcat passwd. What is auto*.* equivalent. Should we do anything on the
nis server to make them(autofs files) shareable via nis ?

Pl sent a cc of your reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] also.

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...error: "only 1024-char blocks implemented"...?

[Jeff Gordon]

I'm trying to install a little utility program suite, that extracts
information from Paradox database tables.

All goes well when I run 'pxcsvdump' to stdout -- but when I try:

  pxcsvdump my_file.db > my_file.txt
  
...linux produces an error like so:

 'll_rw error: only 1024-char blocks implemented'
 
I've been in touch with the programmer of 'pxcsvdump'; he doesn't quite
know what to make of it, and says mine is the first report of this sort
he's received.

Any ideas what's up with this, and how I might go about fixing it?

Thanks kindly,

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Re: problems with "options" in modules.conf

[David Wright]

Quoting Oreste Salerno ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> 2.2.15 code is the same as the 2.2.10, as what regards this part. Adding
> these extra printk showed me that the string ignore is composed only by the
> first word, even if actually there are more than one. i.e if i put:
> 
> options ignore='aa hdb hdc'
> it will just appear:
> ide-cd: will ignore aa
> 
> I tried to find where does ignore come from and I found that it's determined
> by a function called MODULE_PARM(), which does not belong to ide-cd.c so I
> think the problem does not belong to the ide-cd module. But I couldn't do
> anything more 'cause my programming knowhow is very limited. anyway, thanks
> again for your hints.

In which case, I would try the effect of
a) playing with the quotation marks, i.e. try " " instead of ' '
b) playing with the separator, i.e. try hdb,hdc hdb-hdc or even hdbhdc.
   strstr() only looks for the first occurrence of a substring,
   and has no concept of separators.

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GDM don't load keyboard map.

[Paulo J. da Silva e Silva]

Hi,

I am running potato+last minute helix gnome.

The gdm login screen seems not configured to handle foreign
keyboards. Although I have a valid /etc/X11/Xmodmap for my Brazilian keyboard
(abnt2), gdm don't load till the beginning of a gnome session.

To solve this I have add a line to /etc/gdm/Init/Default that looks like

/usr/X11/bin/xmodmap /etc/X11/Xmodmap

Shouldn't gdm read the default keyboard map to make it available to the login
window?

Take care,

Paulo

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Helix sawfish and minimizing

[Stuart Ballard]

Has anyone else noticed that it's impossible to minimize just one window
if others have the same title? I frequently have lots of terminal
windows up and if I try to minimize one, they all disappear.

I'm using up-to-the-second helix GNOME on woody - so I guess I should
technically take it up with helix. Just wondering if anyone else has
been seeing the same thing, though...

Thanks,
Stuart.

Re: rpm2deb

[Christopher Splinter]

* "S. Champ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> does anyone have a URL for rpm2deb ?

Use alien.

RE: wallpaper/background

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 29-Jun-2000 Timothy C. Phan wrote:
> hi,
> 
>   I've recently install a lot of themes for the WindowMaker
>   and really enjoy.  I'm wondering if the wallpaper images
>   can also be installed in the console/tty (non-XWindow) 
>   mode?
> 

no, sorry.  console does not work that way.  GGI has succeeded here a bit, but
it requires heavy mods to practically all of the console subsystem.

RE: xterm cannot execute xterm

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 29-Jun-2000 Roy John Little wrote:
> Dear list:
> While upgrading my glib-gtk libraries, I tried to first uninstall the
> originals using dselect.  When I realized that my whole x-windows system
> was being uninstalled, I did a ^C.  What I notice now is that xterm, the
> window I use for most of my work, will not execute x-type commands: xterm,
> xvidtune, xlock, xdvi, etc.  If I call up a Bash window, using the Debian
> menu, this has no trouble with respect to executing x-commands.  What
> could have gone wrong?
> 

possibly the path is not getting set when you launch the xterm.  echo $PATH and
see if the X bins are in there.

Re: rpm2deb

[Sven Burgener]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 09:34:08AM -0700, S. Champ wrote:

> does anyone have a URL for rpm2deb ?

Why not use alien for this?

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rpm2deb

[S. Champ]

hello.


does anyone have a URL for rpm2deb ?



thank you.


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Re: dictd cannot access localhost

[Maciej Kalisiak]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 07:04:10AM -0400, Valdemir Melechco Carvalho wrote:
> Even if I restart dictd, it still doesn't work - it dies quickly, really 
> weird. It seens to be a dictd problem, I've already tried slink, potato
> and woody dictd versions but it's all the same...

Check your /var/log/{messages,syslog,...} for any relevant info on why it's
exiting/crashing.  There's bound to be some info.  You also might want to do
"ldd `which dictd`" to see whether all the required libraries are there.

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Re: Debian Installation -Simplest method

[brian moore]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 08:53:51AM -0700, Dinesh Nadarajah wrote:
> I want to install debian 2.2. Is there a simple way to
> install the system using a couple of floppies and a
> network connection. For e.g. I can install FreeBSD
> with 2 floppies and a network connection (the floppies
> contain the network card drivers, basic boot kernel, a
> dhcp client, etc.). There must be a way to do this in
> debian without having to download 12 floppies worth of
> data or 650MB iso image (and wait for 5 days for a CD
> to arrive; this is the easiest). Any
> recommendations/advice? :)

Yes.  See the 'compact' install disks.  Basically, you grab the rescue
disk and the root disk (ignore the 'drivers').  Boot from the rescue,
give it the root when it asks, and tell it you want to get the drivers
and base system from the network.

Two floppies.

I don't think it includes a DHCP client, though, so you may need to note
your assigned IP number and such instead of relying on DHCP to assign
that.

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Pb installing Debian 2.1

[Benoit NOSS]

Hello,
In the installation process of the Debian 2.1 distribution, I missed an
important step : I did something wrong and I could not choose an
installation profile. I have a base system working. Can I use dselect
with an option or something equivalent to install with a profile or do I
have to install the rest of my system package by package with deselect?
Thank you in advance

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Re: quick directory question

[Michalowski Thierry]

Hi,
your find is taking long time because find is recursive.
Add -prune to the list of its arguments and you will probably get what you want 
:-)
HTH

Andrew Kae wrote:

> Hello again
>
> A co-worker just helped me out and I think i found a quicker solution.  I
> noticed "find" can take some time.
>
> It's just:
> ls -all | grep "^d" | awk '{print $8}'
>
> Thanks again
> 
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Re: Debian Installation -Simplest method

[Derek Wueppelmann]

> I want to install debian 2.2. Is there a simple way to
> install the system using a couple of floppies and a
> network connection. For e.g. I can install FreeBSD
> with 2 floppies and a network connection (the floppies
> contain the network card drivers, basic boot kernel, a
> dhcp client, etc.). There must be a way to do this in
> debian without having to download 12 floppies worth of
> data or 650MB iso image (and wait for 5 days for a CD
> to arrive; this is the easiest). Any
> recommendations/advice? :)

Unfortunately, I think the only way to install using a network connection
and not waiting for a CD to arrive is to grab all the disks and install it
that way. I would also be very interested in an alternative way, but as of
yet have not found one.
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Re: free books on C in Unix and X programming using Athena widget

[David Z Maze]

a  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
a> Do you know any web site that has free books on C programming in
a> Linix and X programming using Athena widget?

I'd recommend against using the so-called Athena Widget Kit; it looks
ugly and it's hard to program in.  Many Linux developers these days
use the GIMP Toolkit, Gtk+, for GUI programming; details on it can be
found at http://www.gtk.org/.

If you really want to use Xt and Xaw, documentation for them is
included (in *roff and Postscript form) in the X source tarball (in
xc/docs/hardcopy, IIRC).

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Debian Installation -Simplest method

[Dinesh Nadarajah]

I want to install debian 2.2. Is there a simple way to
install the system using a couple of floppies and a
network connection. For e.g. I can install FreeBSD
with 2 floppies and a network connection (the floppies
contain the network card drivers, basic boot kernel, a
dhcp client, etc.). There must be a way to do this in
debian without having to download 12 floppies worth of
data or 650MB iso image (and wait for 5 days for a CD
to arrive; this is the easiest). Any
recommendations/advice? :)

Thanks.

-D

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Re: logrotate

[Sven Burgener]

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 06:33:57PM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote:

> Read the debian policy document.  Debian has additional crontabs
> (apart from user crontabs and the root crontab) in
> /etc/cron.{d,daily,weekly,monthly} 
> The logrotate thing is (not surprising) in /etc/cron.daily/logrotate.

Thanks for the infos!
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  the USA and London still means that the final price compared to surgery is 
  cheap.
  One difference that you are sure to 
  notice is that you won't be crippled for life as a result of 
  unnecessary spinal surgery. And how much is that worth to you in terms of 
  money?
  Yours faithfully,
  JOHN AIDINIANTZPRACTICE MANAGER
  http://www.back-pain.home.plPS: Please pass on this information if you know of somebody who has 
  a back 
problem.
 
 
 

Re: dynamic IP addressing

[Esko Lehtonen]

"S. Champ" wrote:
> 
> hello.
> 
> i have an ethernet card attatched to a DSL modem.
>
> i'll provide more hardware details, if requested, but for now i'm just 
> wondering
> if there's a quick way to setting-up the dynammic ip-addressing. (preferrably:
> without having to go through the "DynIP howto" in order to get a 
> net-connection,
> though it is very neat that a person can learn about networking by installing
> this system.)
> 
> i've already tried to install debian, and need to re-check to see if there are
> any "tulip" ethernet-card drives available in the standard distribution, but
> figured i'd send this question for now. (hopefully to get encouraged about
> giving it another shot)

See Ethernet-HOWTO if you have problems with your card.

When you have got your ethernet card ok, then take a look at this:

http://www.oswg.org/oswg-nightly/DHCP.html

You need to get dhcpcd client software working. If you don't already
have it, download the debian package. (You need it because you want to
get that dynamic ip from server). When you have the software, working
ethernet card and the document, rest is very simple.

First read the document. Make sure your ethernet card is working, then
install the software and reboot. You may need to change some
configuration options, but everything is hopefully explained in the
document. 



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Problem setting up Dialin PPP server

[Nagarjuna G.]

After setting up the ppp server, when I try to connect to the server
ppp starts and immediately stops with the following error: peer refused to
authenticate.  Any clues?

Jun 29 20:10:32 hbcse pppd[31618]: rcvd [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x1d8b13a]
Jun 29 20:10:32 hbcse pppd[31618]: sent [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x2afb0af]
Jun 29 20:10:32 hbcse pppd[31618]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x3 "peer refused to
authenticate"]
Jun 29 20:10:32 hbcse pppd[31618]: LCP terminated by peer (peer refused to
authenticate)
Jun 29 20:10:32 hbcse pppd[31618]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x3]
Jun 29 20:10:33 hbcse pppd[31618]: Modem hangup
Jun 29 20:10:33 hbcse pppd[31618]: Connection terminated.
Jun 29 20:10:34 hbcse pppd[31618]: Exit.
Jun 29 20:12:00 hbcse /USR/SBIN/CRON[316


Nagarjuna
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Re: Compiling a new kernel and dselect problems

[Bob Nielsen]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 10:28:12AM +0200, Luca De Giorgi wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm a new entry in the worderful Debian world.
> Previously i'd used Red Hat 6.x ad Mandrake but i thought i' was time to 
> make a jump in the real Linux world and started using a potato release
> Well, my problem arise when i want to build a custom kernel the Debian-way.
> When i built it i found a .deb package ready to install. I dpkg -i the 
> kernel image.
> My system warns me that there is a kernel image with the same name 
> installed yet (my version has a revision of my own) but i proceed.
> All goes well but whe i try to install a new package using dselect, in 
> the Install session, dselect tells me he wants to upgrade my custom 
> kernel with the standard kernel having the same name kernel so i've to 
> interrupt the installation of my packages.
> 
> Can somebody tell me ho to solve this problem ? Can i build the custom 
> kernel with a different name (not only the revision name) ?

What is happening is that Debian has a version of the same kernel with
a revision number higher than what you are using for your custom
kernel.  To prevent an "upgrade", you need to specify an epoch on the
make-kpkg command line, such as:

make-kpkg --revision=3:custom.1.0 kernel_image

This is discussed in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz.


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Re: quick directory question

[Andrew Kae]

Hello again

A co-worker just helped me out and I think i found a quicker solution.  I 
noticed "find" can take some time.


It's just:
ls -all | grep "^d" | awk '{print $8}'

Thanks again

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Re: Postgresql 7.02 and Debian

[jpb]

Bill Barnes wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the quick responses!
> 
> >
> >If you built postgresql on your own, you may find it easier in the long
> >run to build the 7.0.2 debian packages from source, especially if you're
> >planning on running it on more than one machine.
> 
> Sounds like the right thing to do.
> 
> >Briefly:
> >1) add deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib
> >non-free
> >   to your /etc/apt/sources.list
> 
> Here's the modified file:
[ snip ok sources.list]

> >2) apt-get update
> Here's the log:
> kgb10:/tmp# apt-get update
[ snip ]
> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/non-free/source/Sources
>   Connection timed out

Try apt-get update again.  It looks like you had network congestion when
you tried before. Or you can just use ftp and go to ftp.us.debian.org
and manually grab the postgresql source files (the .diff.gz, .dsc &
.orig.tar.gz) and use dbuild to extract them.

jpb
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Re: problems with "options" in modules.conf

[Oreste Salerno]

On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 07:11:00PM +0100, David Wright wrote:

> then my reaction would be to put an
> extra printk or two into the kernel source and see what it's actually
> doing.
> 
> 2.2.10 has:
> 
>   MOD_INC_USE_COUNT;
>   printk("ide-cd: will ignore %s\n", ignore);   <-
>   while ((drive = ide_scan_devices (ide_cdrom, ide_cdrom_driver.name, NULL, 
> failed++)) != NULL) {
> /* skip drives that we were told to ignore */
> if (ignore != NULL)
>   printk("ide-cd: checking drive %s\n", drive->name);   <-
>   if (strstr(ignore, drive->name)) {
> printk("ide-cd: ignoring drive %s\n", drive->name);
> continue;
>   }

2.2.15 code is the same as the 2.2.10, as what regards this part. Adding
these extra printk showed me that the string ignore is composed only by the
first word, even if actually there are more than one. i.e if i put:

options ignore='aa hdb hdc'
it will just appear:
ide-cd: will ignore aa

I tried to find where does ignore come from and I found that it's determined
by a function called MODULE_PARM(), which does not belong to ide-cd.c so I
think the problem does not belong to the ide-cd module. But I couldn't do
anything more 'cause my programming knowhow is very limited. anyway, thanks
again for your hints.
Bye!

wallpaper/background

[Timothy C. Phan]

hi,

  I've recently install a lot of themes for the WindowMaker
  and really enjoy.  I'm wondering if the wallpaper images
  can also be installed in the console/tty (non-XWindow) 
  mode?

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Re: quick directory question

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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Well, to answer your first question, remove '-F' from the options list to
ls.

Regarding your second question, do a 'find . -type d'.  Read the man page
for find.

HTH,
noah

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Andrew Kae wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to list all the directories in a directory and put it into a 
> file.
> 
> So far I have :
> $ ls -all -F | grep /$ | awk '{print $8}'
> ./
> ../
> .netscape/
> mail/
> 
> which almost gives me what i want but i need to get rid of that / at the 
> end, can someone help me out?
> 
> If anyone has an easier way, can you let me know?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> PS. I feel a little embarrased asking such a simple question but o well =)
> 
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RE: quick directory question

[Wesley A. Wannemacher]

you could use find:

find ./ type d > some.file

Wes


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Northwestern College
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-Original Message-
From: Andrew Kae [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 9:45 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: quick directory question


Hello,

I am trying to list all the directories in a directory and put it into a
file.

So far I have :
$ ls -all -F | grep /$ | awk '{print $8}'
./
../
.netscape/
mail/

which almost gives me what i want but i need to get rid of that / at the
end, can someone help me out?

If anyone has an easier way, can you let me know?

Thanks



PS. I feel a little embarrased asking such a simple question but o well =)

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quick directory question

[Andrew Kae]

Hello,

I am trying to list all the directories in a directory and put it into a 
file.


So far I have :
$ ls -all -F | grep /$ | awk '{print $8}'
./
../
.netscape/
mail/

which almost gives me what i want but i need to get rid of that / at the 
end, can someone help me out?


If anyone has an easier way, can you let me know?

Thanks



PS. I feel a little embarrased asking such a simple question but o well =)

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Re: Postfix troubles

[Mark Brown]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2000 at 01:19:06AM -0400, S.Salman Ahmed wrote:

> But then how come sending email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sends it correctly
> to my local user account ? Why should [EMAIL PROTECTED] be treated/relayed
> any differently than [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

Postfix does alias database rewrites at the local delivery stage.  What
is happening is that Postfix sees "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and tries to deliver
it locally.  If the account is just an account (as for your user
account) all is well.  If the account is an alias then Postfix replaces
the destination address with the address or addresses on the right hand
side of the alias and starts delivering them.  The problem is that your
aliases have no domain part so Postfix puts a default in but isn't
configured to deliver this default locally.

What are the values of mydestination, myorigin, myhostname and mydomain?  
What is the output of "hostname"?

A quick hack that should work around the problem would be to change your 
alias database to have right hand sides in [EMAIL PROTECTED] form.

> But if I remove the relayhost line from /etc/main.cf, how will I be able
> to send email to any other internet users e.g. this list, etc. ?

Removing the relayhost won't help at all.  By the time Postfix looks at
the relayhost it has already decided to try to deliver the mail
remotely.

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xterm cannot execute xterm

[Roy John Little]

Dear list:
While upgrading my glib-gtk libraries, I tried to first uninstall the
originals using dselect.  When I realized that my whole x-windows system
was being uninstalled, I did a ^C.  What I notice now is that xterm, the
window I use for most of my work, will not execute x-type commands: xterm,
xvidtune, xlock, xdvi, etc.  If I call up a Bash window, using the Debian
menu, this has no trouble with respect to executing x-commands.  What
could have gone wrong?

Thank you,
Prof. Roy J. Little
Dept. Chem.
Universidad de los Andes
Merida, Venezuela

Re: apt-get & kernel question

[Ian Stuart]

Dean wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric:
>  Thanks for the reply. I checked and there is no ppp.o
> in /lib/modules/2.2.15/net, but there is in my old
> kernel at /lib/modules/2.0.36/net. Can I just
> copy that to my 2.2.15 file? Or do I need to
> make up a module?  Dean
You need to make a module (and tell the kernel to use it, etc..)

New kernel time ;-)

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truetype fonts and xfree86 4

[Vincent Murphy]

 i installed the pre-compiled xfree86 4 binaries from ftp.xfree86.org on
a woody system, and have a

   Load "freetype"

line in my /etc/X11/XF86Setup.  it all works perfectly except xlsfonts
doesn't load Truetype fonts, and so i can't use them in gimp/netscape
etc either.

 what do i have to do to get truetype fonts working?  i presume i have
to put a directory in XF86Config (maybe another FontPath?), have the
fonts in the directory, and do something to create some sort of index.

 (please cc me privately as well as the list, i'm just reading the archives
this week.)

regards,
-vincent

.

Cheap printer?

[Vicente Torres]

I have recently bought an EPSON Stylus color 480
for my home use.

It was a surprise for me to note that this printer has 
no button to push and everything must be controlled from
Windows (including changing or installing the ink cartridge!).

So, I must return it and buy another printer.
Wich one would you recommend to me?
It must be cheap; I do not want to use color on my printings
and it must work fine with linux.

Thanks


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