Re: Window manager ....

2001-05-30 Thread ktb
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:29:03PM +1000, Steve Kieu wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Anyone pls tell me how heavier the system resourses
> will suffer if I run sawmill wm versus icewm? My box
> only 35Mb RAM 100 Mhz CPU, ; icewm is good for all
> purpose (gnome compliant, light, nice looking and
> configure but not nice with netscape (see my last
> email :-) ). I have tested wmmaker but it is not fully
> gnome compliant. 

I would give PWM a try if I were you -
http://www.students.tut.fi/~tuomov/pwm/

It is light and keyboard friendly.  I run gnome-terminal on it.  I don't
run a lot of gnome applications but I haven't had any trouble so far.
The deb at the site didn't work for me.  It has a nice feature, you can
load xterms and Netscape automatically in the same window.  I dumped
window maker for it.
kent

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Window manager ....

2001-05-30 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi,

Anyone pls tell me how heavier the system resourses
will suffer if I run sawmill wm versus icewm? My box
only 35Mb RAM 100 Mhz CPU, ; icewm is good for all
purpose (gnome compliant, light, nice looking and
configure but not nice with netscape (see my last
email :-) ). I have tested wmmaker but it is not fully
gnome compliant. 

Regards, Steve

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Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-30 Thread Renai LeMay
I would suggest that that review is a little old.

It only has a very small section on kword, which after all, is currently one 
of the best Linux word processors out there.

If you want my advice (I'm a journalist and sysadmin), Kword is fast, free 
and approaching stability. It's now useable for daily work, and in about a 
year I would say it will probably be giving the proprietory word processors 
out there a run for their money.

Renai

On Thursday 31 May 2001 13:12, Kevin Ross wrote:
> LinuxPlanet has a side-by-side review of all the word processors for Linux,
> including:
>
> StarOffice 5.2
> WordPerfect 9
> AbiWord
> Applix Words
> Maxwell
> KWord (part of KOffice, for KDE)
>
> The review is at:
> http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/1762/1/
>
> -- Kevin
>
>
>
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mouseman wheel on X

2001-05-30 Thread tek kno3


Hi all,

i'like some help to make the mouseman wheel work on netscape (if it does!?). 
running  potato 2.2.19pre17-ide; XF 3.3.6, enlightenment 16.2, netscape 4.77


i managed ok (Zaxis on XFconfig) to make the wheel work (eg. w/ xterm) but 
nothing w/ netscape. later included definitions in .Xdefaults (as indicated 
in http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ ) and nothing...


so any help? where can i get more info/help about this definitions in 
.Xdefaults? or maybe you could suggest me another forum to look for it?


Cheers,

Guilherme


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Re: Adding stuff to menus

2001-05-30 Thread Erik Steffl
Cameron Matheson wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I have a bunch of programs that I've compiled over time, and I kind of want
> to add them to the debian menus.  How would I do this?  Is this window-manager
> specific, or is their a global way to do this?  It seems if I do use a window
> manager's configuration utility, everytime I install a new package, it 
> overrides
> the menu.

  it's fairly easy, check the docs for menu package, check also the
/usr/lib/menu directory where the menu files for various debian packages
are.

  you can add yours to /etc/menu

  run update-menus after you add/change menu, then restart you window
manager (it is usually possible without restarting X, so all your
applications etc. are intact...

erik



Re: The use of source cds.

2001-05-30 Thread Leonard Leblanc
> Dear Debian Group,
>
> I would like to know exactly what purpose the source cds serve and who
would
> need to use them. I will only be using Debian for things like word
> processing, email, the internet, etcetera and wouldn't be doing any
> development or performing any major alterations to the debian
distribution.
> My question then is do you think that I have any need for purchasing the
> source cds along with the main cds?
>
> Thank you for your time,
> Ry

I was working on a kde project a little while back and I never used the
source cd's once.  everything was available via cvs.

Leonard Leblanc
Webmaster / Intranet Administrator
www.emergeknowledge.com




Re: Bind stop working right.

2001-05-30 Thread Leonard Leblanc
i had the same problem a little while back

if you post your config files, i can check them out...

> I have some problems on one server.
>
> Some times bind doesn't respond any more until it is restarted.
>
> Then I only see domain traffic outgoing, not incoming and no reponses from
> others servers.
>
> It is the bind 1:8.2.3-0.potato.1
>
> Is there any fixes/know problems to this version?
>
> --
> Carlos Barros.

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Webmaster / Intranet Administrator
www.emergeknowledge.com



Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-30 Thread Kevin Ross
LinuxPlanet has a side-by-side review of all the word processors for Linux, 
including:

StarOffice 5.2
WordPerfect 9
AbiWord
Applix Words
Maxwell
KWord (part of KOffice, for KDE)

The review is at:
http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/1762/1/

-- Kevin




The use of source cds.

2001-05-30 Thread Simmons-Davis
Dear Debian Group,

I would like to know exactly what purpose the source cds serve and who would
need to use them. I will only be using Debian for things like word
processing, email, the internet, etcetera and wouldn't be doing any
development or performing any major alterations to the debian distribution.
My question then is do you think that I have any need for purchasing the
source cds along with the main cds?

Thank you for your time,
Ry



crontab running scripts

2001-05-30 Thread André Borman


Hi there,

I would like to know how I can get e.g. this crontab entry

* * * * * /usr/local/bin/foo -options arg1 arg2

to run right.

Foo is a script that calls external programs itself that need the mentioned
options and arguments. It seems that when foo is executed, the external
programs are not executed because they're not in the path. When I include
the absolute paths in the script everything works fine, but that's not
really satisfying.

I thought 

* * * * * /bin/bash foo -options arg1 arg2 

might do it because the path is defined somewhere in the bash config,
right? But it doesn't work.

Can somebody help me out?

Best regards,

André Borman.



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Re: ~/.Xmodmap (was: Customizing the console key map?)

2001-05-30 Thread Paul D. Smith
%% Mike Pfleger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  mp> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 04:01:13PM -0400, Paul D. Smith wrote:
  >> I'll repeat my previous advice: use xkeycaps.
  >> 
  >> Life is too short to futz with modmap.

  mp> Yes, well; using xkeycaps doesn't teach me anything, does it?

First, as someone else pointed out, it certainly _can_ teach you
something, if you want...

Second, my point is, with so many truly _useful_ and _interesting_
things to learn, why waste brain cells on something as basically useless
and uninteresting (and baroque) as modmap syntax?

Anyway that's my opinion but, of course, YMMV :).

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Problems with symbolic links under /dev

2001-05-30 Thread Stefan Srdic
I'm running Patato with kernel 2.4.4 (self compiled) and XFree 4.0.2 and
the XFce desktop from unstable.

I'm having problems with my CD-Burning device.

I have compiled ide-scsi support directly into the kernel as well as
SCSI CD support, this eliminates the need for any ide-cd drivers to be
compiled into the kernel.

When I test my kernel dmesg reports the following about my CD-Burning
device located on hdc.

SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
  Vendor: IDE-CDModel: R/RW 4x4x24   Rev: 1.2C
  Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12

This looks right to me, one thing that I have noticed thats different is
the vendor, my CD-R is an IOmega zip CD 4x4x24.

Anyway, after I compiled and tested the kernel I attempted to create a
symbolic link from scd0 to cdrom so that I could mount cd's and play
music through my cd-burner.

Basically, everything looks like:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev# ls -l cdrom hdc scd0 sr0
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 May 30 19:48 cdrom -> scd0
brw-rw1 root disk  22,   0 Apr 15 00:54 hdc
brw-rw1 root cdrom 11,   0 May 26 15:22 scd0
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 May 26 15:22 sr0 -> scd0

Now when I use cdrecord to test my cd-burner configuration I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev# cdrecord --scanbus
Cdrecord 1.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 Jörg Schilling
cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you
are root.

Can anybody point me towards insight?

Thanks

stef



Re: Netscape problem in debian. Found the cause :-)

2001-05-30 Thread Renai LeMay
no, the newer version of sawmill is called sawfish

the new version of icewm is called icewm

On Thursday 31 May 2001 11:20, Oki DZ wrote:
> Steve Kieu wrote:
> > I hope this infomation is usefull for some one using
> > icewm like me, and hope that if some one knows the
> > better version of icewm and make it to debian package
> > for potato, it will be great. Thanx.
>
> I heard that the newer version of icewm is called sawfish (which is
> neatly packaged in a .deb).
> CMIIW.
>
> Oki



Re: First Debian Install Question

2001-05-30 Thread francisco m neto
» Bill Witherspoon disse isso e eu digo aquilo:

> Hi all,
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to re-run the X setup proggy that
> you get through dselect?
> 
> I had to pop out of the configurator to install xfonts, and
> can't seem to get back into it. (I had to lie and tell it X was
> properly configed).

I don't know exaclty what you want to do, but you should try
xf86config for a start. There is also a tool named xf86cfg, but I've
never used it.

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Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-30 Thread Alan Shutko
"Steve R. Hastings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Corel is selling the whole WordPerfect Office suite, which includes
> WordPerfect and Quattro Pro.

Note that last I checked, there's no commitment to ongoing support of
this product, there was almost no support of WP8, and getting fixes
for any number of known bugs involves downloading the source to their
version of WINE from their CVS (which hasn't seen much update in the
last 6 months or so... and at the moment, isn't responding) and
hacking some changes to the startup script.  There have been no
patches since release (beyond an install script to cure the fact that
it won't install on some systems), and last I heard, the Linux product
manager couldn't get resources from management to do one.

In other words, if you want WPO2k/Linux, you'll be on your own.

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Re: Netscape problem in debian. Found the cause :-)

2001-05-30 Thread Oki DZ
Steve Kieu wrote:
> I hope this infomation is usefull for some one using
> icewm like me, and hope that if some one knows the
> better version of icewm and make it to debian package
> for potato, it will be great. Thanx.

I heard that the newer version of icewm is called sawfish (which is
neatly packaged in a .deb).
CMIIW.

Oki



Re: small school: replacements for MS Word and Excel

2001-05-30 Thread Steve R. Hastings
Corel is selling the whole WordPerfect Office suite, which includes 
WordPerfect and Quattro Pro.


http://linux.corel.com/products/wpo2000_linux/index.htm

The suite is about $150 a copy.  buy.com has a 5-pack which is a better 
deal, but it is back-ordered.




There is also Applix:

http://www.vistasource.com/products/axware

Applix is an office suite available for Linux.  It's inexpensive and I 
have heard good things about it but I have not tried it.  I think list 
price is $100 a copy, but you might be able to get a deal since you are 
a school.




Staroffice is very large and slow.  If AbiWord was too slow for you, 
Staroffice is a non-starter.  Probably Applix is the best bet: native, 
and small.  (Corel's stuff is Windows software ported using WINE libraries.)


Good luck.



First Debian Install Question

2001-05-30 Thread Bill Witherspoon



Hi all,
 
Can anyone tell me how to re-run the X setup proggy 
that
you get through dselect?
 
I had to pop out of the configurator to install 
xfonts, and
can't seem to get back into it. (I had to lie and 
tell it X was
properly configed).
 
TIA,
Bill


where oh where has my little kernal gone?

2001-05-30 Thread Paul Valley



Hello:
 
 
    I currently use Debian(I 
belieave its1.2)that came with corel and must compile sound support in what 
directory is the kernal it self??
 
 
Paul Valley


Re: ~/.Xmodmap (was: Customizing the console key map?)

2001-05-30 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 01:29:57PM -0700, Mike Pfleger wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 04:01:13PM -0400, Paul D. Smith wrote:
> > I'll repeat my previous advice: use xkeycaps.
> > 
> > Life is too short to futz with modmap.
> 
> Yes, well; using xkeycaps doesn't teach me anything, does it?

Sure it does ... write out a _complete_ map before you make changes,
copy it to a safe place, make changes, save them, and use diff to see
what changed.  Worked for me ... I now have no caps lock key, three
ctrl keys, and a compose key :)

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Re: One For The Record Books

2001-05-30 Thread Mike
Vinod Kurup wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:10:53PM -0500, will trillich wrote:
> > i once got an answer that predated my question, but temporal
> > displacement notwithstanding, it was attributable to borked
> > clock settings. 
>
> I need to get myself one of those temporal displacement machines. When's
> that going to get into 'testing'?

They should go into testing around 2035, and should then be in retail
outlets sometime around October of 2002.
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Re: Setting up NIS

2001-05-30 Thread Ian Greenhoe
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:31:22PM -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> I'm trying to get a NIS domain started and having little luck...  I've
> followed along through /usr/share/doc/nis/nis.debian.howto.gz (which is
> great to have there!), but it doesn't seem to have worked.
> 
> I started to suspect that things weren't working at step 3.6, starting the
> server, when it didn't seem to be able to bind to the YP server.  (I'm still
> not entirely clear on why it wants to bind to the server when /etc/init.d/nis
> is telling it that it's the master server, but I digress...)

1)  So that you can verify that it is working, w/o having a bunch of other
possible problems preventing verification.

2)  So that you can use NIS locally with the same client code.
[same client code == less code == less bugs]

> Then, in step 3.7, I knew things weren't working as I saw
> "/usr/lib/yp/ypinit -m" report "failed to send 'clear' to local ypserv:
> RPC: Timed out" for each and every map that it tried to update.

Until and unless you can get it to bind to the server, doing anything
else is useless.

> Just to be sure, though, I tried a ypwhich after ypinit finished and was
> told, "can't yp_bind: Reason: Domain not bound".

This says that ypbind is not talking to the server.

> Throughout all of this, nothing was logged to syslog.

Not necessarily suprising.  I've found the most useful way to get data
from ypserv is to run it from a seperate [aEwx]term with the -d
switch.  Word of warning:  It can produce a *lot* of data.

> So how do I troubleshoot this?  Is the problem obvious to anyone?

1)  Don't try anything else until ypbind/ypwhich works.

2)  There are a number of potential problems:

*  NIS was broken in testing due to recent glibc upgrade.
   [upgrade nis if you are using testing/unstable]

*  make sure that /etc/ypserv.conf is set up appropriately.  You might
   wish to add the following temporarily [for testing only, since it
   opens NIS up to anybody who can access your machine.  Better make
   sure that your passwords are good!]

   * : * : none

*  add a "ypserver" line to /etc/yp.conf if it doesn't exist.

*  make sure that NISSERVER=master in /etc/init.d/nis

*  make sure that nis was started *after* portmapper.  In fact, you may want
   to do the following:

   1) make sure that portmap is running.
  ("/etc/init.d/portmap start" sans quotes otherwise*)

   2) restart nis.
  /etc/init.d/nis start

   3) check that nis is registered with portmapper
(you'll see ypbind/ypserv, not nis, listed)
  pmap_dump
or
  rpcinfo -p

   * -- BTW, *stopping* portmap can have bad effects.  For example,
NFS requires portmap.

HTH,
-Ian



Re: Netscape problem in debian. Found the cause :-)

2001-05-30 Thread p
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:12:25AM +1000, Steve Kieu wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yeah finnally I found the cause that I have complained
> about netscape before, that ever you quit netscape by
> click File / Exit, Netscape will still remain in
> memory (actually still running but no window display).
> Always like that. The culprit is window manager, not
> debian itself. For some reason icewm 1.0.1-1 doesn't
> handle properly. I use for example blackbox and it is
> normal. AFAIK netscape sometimes crashes in another
> situation too but not so often like that case :-)
> 
> I hope this infomation is usefull for some one using
> icewm like me, and hope that if some one knows the
> better version of icewm and make it to debian package
> for potato, it will be great. Thanx.
> 
> Steve
> 
> =
> S.KIEU
> 
hi steve,

i, too, use icewm (with liquid theme).  i just close netscape by
clicking the "close" botton for the window; and i never get a "run-on"
process.  (is this method wrong?)

thx.

bentley taylor.

//
> 



looking for XMMS 1.2.5-pre1 deb-package

2001-05-30 Thread Thomas Hess
hi,

does someone know a location for a XMMS 1.2.5-pre1 deb-package?

tom

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Re: Printing using CUPS from the command line.

2001-05-30 Thread Mike Cook
You should install the cupsys-bsd package, then cups will print with the lp 
or lpr commands.

Mike




On Wednesday 30 May 2001 07:21, Cameron Matheson wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I have to use 'lp' instead of 'lpr' when I use cups.
>
> Cameron Matheson
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 01:10:30AM +0200, Alberto García wrote:
> > When I try to print a file from the shell ( lpr file ) the job is queued
> > and I fail to print, but using startoffice or mozilla, everything I
> > intend to print is printed with absolutley no problems. I´ve checked my
> > printer with lpstat and it "accepts requests", so I am a bit lost (should
> > I say completely?:-)). I sniffed around and found (to my surprise) that
> > the command line for printing in Mozilla was lpr, with no arguments. What
> > am I doing wrong? I use HP Laserjet 5L and have the ppd file for it.
> > Thanks in advance everybody. See you.
>
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Re: Printing using CUPS from the command line.

2001-05-30 Thread Cameron Matheson
Hey,

I have to use 'lp' instead of 'lpr' when I use cups.

Cameron Matheson

On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 01:10:30AM +0200, Alberto García wrote:
> When I try to print a file from the shell ( lpr file ) the job is queued and 
> I fail to print, but using startoffice or mozilla, everything I intend to 
> print is printed with absolutley no problems. I´ve checked my printer with 
> lpstat and it "accepts requests", so I am a bit lost (should I say 
> completely?:-)).
> I sniffed around and found (to my surprise) that the command line for 
> printing in Mozilla was lpr, with no arguments. What am I doing wrong? 
> I use HP Laserjet 5L and have the ppd file for it.
> Thanks in advance everybody. See you.

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pseudo-image

2001-05-30 Thread howard n perkins



hi im having problems using the pseudo-image kit 
install. i get the kit downloaded and umziped and i get the .list files but when 
i goto make the image file its self and start downloading everything it gets to 
the readme-non-us and then it says its getting the file and then it just sits 
there and the ms-dos prompt box says sleep in the upper left. i followed the 
readme with the kit and did what it said to do cause i use to get all those 
error msg's but now i dont even get that. could you possibly help 
me?


Printing using CUPS from the command line.

2001-05-30 Thread Alberto García



When I try to print a file from the shell ( lpr 
file ) the job is queued and I fail to print, but using startoffice or 
mozilla, everything I intend to print is printed with absolutley no 
problems. I´ve checked my printer with lpstat and it "accepts requests", so I am 
a bit lost (should I say completely?:-)).
I sniffed around and found (to my surprise) that 
the command line for printing in Mozilla was lpr, with no 
arguments. What am I doing wrong? 
I use HP Laserjet 5L and have the ppd file for 
it.
Thanks in advance everybody. See 
you.


Fw: Ximian Gnome Problem

2001-05-30 Thread Rafael Sasaki

One server to your sources.list can be: http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian
stable main


- Original Message -
From: "vester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Thomas H. George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "debian-user" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Ximian Gnome Problem



i had some problems with ximian too (on woody though) ...

for the alternative installation (the apt-get one) have you added the
particular ximian server to your sources-list? i don't remember the
address but you can find it at ximian.com

i remember in the beginning they actually forgot to add the task package,
but i think by now they've added it so basically, when you use potato and
added ximian to your sources list

# apt-get install task-ximian-gnome

should do the job. accordingly it should be easy to get rid of all ximian
packages and start over. i browsed through dselect and marked all packages
with "ximian" in the version number for deletion and that worked fine.

hope that helps!

vester




On Wed, 30 May 2001, Thomas H. George wrote:

> Installation of Ximian Gnome Desktop failed, left problems I can't
resolve.
>
> Last week I started download/installation of the full ximian gnome
> desktop from the ximian web site.  The lengthy download timed out at
> about 50%.  When restarted it completed the download of 319 files then
> the installation failed in mid-process.  A subseqent dpkg command found
> many conflicting dependencies and aborted unable to resolve them all.
> The next time I tried to use apt-get it removed 100 files.  After this I
> no longer had mozilla and when I tried apt-get --fix-broken
> --fix-missing install mozilla it reported that this could not be
> installed as an ximian file was to be installed.
>
> Not knowing how to find and remove the conflicting ximian files and
> having no mozilla, I thought to try again to install the ximian gnome
> desktop from the stable distribution (I'm running debian linux 2.2.19)
> with apt-get install task-ximian-gnome (an alternative listed at the
> ximian web site)  There is, however, no such .deb package in the stable
> distribution.  I next looked in ftp.ximian.com where I found a signature
> package for task-ximian-gnome but nothing else.
>
> I have sent a couple of emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and yesterday
> tried filing a bug report but as yet have received no response.
>
> Does anyone know how clean up - i.e. remove all the conflicting pieces
> of the ximian installation - other than wiping out my entire debian
> installation and starting over?
>
>
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Re: kernel 2.4.4 and ES1371 soundcard

2001-05-30 Thread Cameron Matheson
> Could you send me the output of lsmod (offline if you prefer).

Module  Size  Used by
analog  6816   0  (unused)
es1371 25632   2 
ac97_codec  8480   0  [es1371]

I have ns558 and gameport builtin.

Cameron Matheson


On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 02:37:13PM -0700, Mike Pfleger wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:27:13PM -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote:
> > Hey,
> > 
> > I'm having that same problem.  I haven't been able to figure out joystick on
> > my es1371 w/ any of the 2.4.x kernels (i've tried all the stable ones)
> 
> That's interesting.  What modules do you have that are involved with ES1371?
> Could you send me the output of lsmod (offline if you prefer).
> 
> TIA,
> -- 
> Mike Pfleger
> 
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> Where are they hiding?
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> 
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Setting up NIS

2001-05-30 Thread Dave Sherohman
I'm trying to get a NIS domain started and having little luck...  I've
followed along through /usr/share/doc/nis/nis.debian.howto.gz (which is
great to have there!), but it doesn't seem to have worked.

I started to suspect that things weren't working at step 3.6, starting the
server, when it didn't seem to be able to bind to the YP server.  (I'm still
not entirely clear on why it wants to bind to the server when /etc/init.d/nis
is telling it that it's the master server, but I digress...)

Then, in step 3.7, I knew things weren't working as I saw
"/usr/lib/yp/ypinit -m" report "failed to send 'clear' to local ypserv:
RPC: Timed out" for each and every map that it tried to update.

Just to be sure, though, I tried a ypwhich after ypinit finished and was
told, "can't yp_bind: Reason: Domain not bound".

Throughout all of this, nothing was logged to syslog.

So how do I troubleshoot this?  Is the problem obvious to anyone?

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Re: rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/

2001-05-30 Thread Ian Greenhoe
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:20:42PM -0700, Ian Greenhoe wrote:
> Edit (or create) /etc/apt.conf and add the following to it:

Feh.  That should be /etc/apt/apt.conf

-Ian



Re: kde.tdyc.com gone?

2001-05-30 Thread Peter Hicks
Thanks. That thread showed up in my mailbox moments after sending my question 
to the list.

On Wednesday 30 May 2001 13:53, DvB wrote:
> Peter Hicks wrote:
> > I cannot seem to reach this host. Is there another source for the kde
> > .debs?
>
>  From will trillich's follow up to the "KDE on stable" thread:
>  > has anybody got KDE to work in potato? if so could the apt lines please.
>
> # security stuff for potato
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main
> contrib non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib
> non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org potato/updates main contrib non-free
>
> # kde stuff for potato
> deb http://kde.rap.ucar.edu stable main crypto optional qt1apps
> deb
> http://ftp.sourceForge.net/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/latest/distribution/deb
> stable main
>
>
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USB CD burner recommendations?

2001-05-30 Thread Max Kamenetsky
Hi all!

Do you have any recommendations on a fast external USB-based CD burner
that works well with the latest kernels (we're running 2.4.5 here)?
Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Max

P.S.  Please cc me on replies.



Re: duplicating a partition

2001-05-30 Thread Shaul Karl
> i have ext2 but now i want to switch to reiserfs
> i have an empty partition, which is not being used
> now, i would like to copy the contents of /dev/hda5 (existing ext2
> partition) to /dev/hda8 (new empty reiserfs partition). but i donot know
> what is the best way to do it.
> 
> any hints?
> 
> thanx,
> amardeep
> 


I would consult the Hard-Disk-Upgrade mini-HOWTO.
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Re: rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/

2001-05-30 Thread Ian Greenhoe
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 03:28:16AM +0530, Rajkumar S. wrote:
> Thanks, it was done.

You're welcome.

> How can I make apt-get to ask to erase the downloaded debs after install?

Edit (or create) /etc/apt.conf and add the following to it:



// Things that effect the APT dselect method
DSelect 
{
  Clean "auto";   // always|auto|prompt|never
};



As you can see, I've got apt set up to do automatic cleaning.
Most times, the default is "prompt".

I'm seriously thinking about setting mine to never -- since I'm
running testing and have gotten burned by a few upgrades.

[Like the recent libc 2.2 -> 2.3 upgrade.  I *was* running a NIS
server on that box until that point.  Now I've got another box running
stable with my department's NIS server on it.  It also gave me an
excuse to set up a backup DNS server.  So, even tho there were a few
hair-raising moments, it all worked out in the end.]

-Ian



Sound on X

2001-05-30 Thread Rafael Sasaki
Hi,
  I`m still trying to tune my machine up, but I`m still having some
problems. Now I got one that I could not fix. I have an Ensonic board
(es1370). The Gnu/Linux can see it on the boot (dmesg) and it don`t cause
any error.
  I could play any kind of sound in the X, but just as root. Then i added
every other user to the audio group. Now every user can play sounds, but it
always hangs the machine. Actually, it hangs just the net board. I can leave
X and kill the processes that does not stops by themselves, but I cannot use
the net any more. Not just the internet, but any service from my home net.
  I`m running a Potato 2.2r3, a mozilla0.8... with Flash and Realplay
plugins and the Gnome I got from Ximian site.

Rafael Sasaki



Netscape problem in debian. Found the cause :-)

2001-05-30 Thread Steve Kieu
Hi,

Yeah finnally I found the cause that I have complained
about netscape before, that ever you quit netscape by
click File / Exit, Netscape will still remain in
memory (actually still running but no window display).
Always like that. The culprit is window manager, not
debian itself. For some reason icewm 1.0.1-1 doesn't
handle properly. I use for example blackbox and it is
normal. AFAIK netscape sometimes crashes in another
situation too but not so often like that case :-)

I hope this infomation is usefull for some one using
icewm like me, and hope that if some one knows the
better version of icewm and make it to debian package
for potato, it will be great. Thanx.

Steve

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Re: rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/

2001-05-30 Thread Shaul Karl
> Hi all,
> 
> Just before I found out the apt-get clean I wiped out the
> /var/cache/apt/archives/. As it can be expected I badly screwed my apt-get
> :)
> 
> How can I bring this back?
> 
> raj
> 


Just create the following and you are set:

 [01:00:32 tmp]$ ls /var/cache/apt/archives -ld
drwxr-xr-x3 root root 8192 May 31 00:38 /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:00:35 tmp]$ ls /var/cache/apt/archives -lR
/var/cache/apt/archives:
total 4
-rw-r-1 root root0 May 31 00:38 lock
drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 May 30 21:38 partial

/var/cache/apt/archives/partial:
total 0
[01:00:38 tmp]$ 

Of course you will need to download again every package that you want to 
upgrade.
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Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when?
  (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14)





Re: kde.tdyc.com gone?

2001-05-30 Thread DvB

Peter Hicks wrote:


I cannot seem to reach this host. Is there another source for the kde .debs?






From will trillich's follow up to the "KDE on stable" thread:


> has anybody got KDE to work in potato? if so could the apt lines please.



# security stuff for potato
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main 
contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib 
non-free

deb http://security.debian.org potato/updates main contrib non-free

# kde stuff for potato
deb http://kde.rap.ucar.edu stable main crypto optional qt1apps
deb 
http://ftp.sourceForge.net/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/latest/distribution/deb 
stable main



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Re: rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/

2001-05-30 Thread Colin Watson
"Rajkumar S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Just before I found out the apt-get clean I wiped out the
>/var/cache/apt/archives/. As it can be expected I badly screwed my apt-get
>:)
>
>How can I bring this back?

Removing /var/cache/apt/archives should be harmless; can't you just
update and continue using apt as usual?

-- 
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Re: rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/

2001-05-30 Thread Rajkumar S.
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Ian Greenhoe wrote:

> mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
> chmod 755 /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
>
> touch /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
> chmod 640 /var/cache/apt/archives/lock

Thanks, it was done.

How can I make apt-get to ask to erase the downloaded debs after install?

raj




Re: One For The Record Books

2001-05-30 Thread Robert L. Harris


Not a problem,  it's already gone into testing in about 6 months
from now.  Testing should only take a few weeks and be done about
4 months from now, but with possible governmental beurcacy and corporations
interferring it could take a few weeks longer so expect mass production
in about 13 years.


Thus spake Vinod Kurup ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:10:53PM -0500, will trillich wrote:
> > i once got an answer that predated my question, but temporal
> > displacement notwithstanding, it was attributable to borked
> > clock settings. 
> > 
> 
> LOL
> 
> I need to get myself one of those temporal displacement machines. When's
> that going to get into 'testing'?
> 
> Vinod
> 
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> 
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Re: Console: weird scrolling

2001-05-30 Thread Imre Vida
> 
> It would be nice if there was an option to disable that graphic
> entirely, or replace it with a user-defined pixmap...

read the Framebuffer-HOWTO, Chapter 19
it seems that it's not that easy and at the end
you have to recompile the kernel...

imre



Re: kernel 2.4.4 and ES1371 soundcard

2001-05-30 Thread Mike Pfleger
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:27:13PM -0600, Cameron Matheson wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I'm having that same problem.  I haven't been able to figure out joystick on
> my es1371 w/ any of the 2.4.x kernels (i've tried all the stable ones)

That's interesting.  What modules do you have that are involved with ES1371?
Could you send me the output of lsmod (offline if you prefer).

TIA,
-- 
Mike Pfleger

There's seventy brilliant people on earth.
Where are they hiding?
"Yashar" -Cabaret Voltaire (off of "2x45")



Re: file search in package archives?

2001-05-30 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 02:04:58PM -0500, DvB wrote:
> dpkg -S does this on installed packages but is there a way to search for 
> a file in packages that aren't installed yet? Does apt store this 
> information?

While not as exact as zgrep'ing the Contents-i386.gz file, as someone
else suggested, apt-cache search works well for most searches of that
nature.  For example, an 'apt-cache search as86' returns:

bin86 - 16-bit assembler and loader

-Rob



Re: rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/

2001-05-30 Thread David Z Maze
Rajkumar S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
RS> Just before I found out the apt-get clean I wiped out the
RS> /var/cache/apt/archives/. As it can be expected I badly screwed my apt-get
RS> :)

Why?  AFAIK that's pretty much what 'apt-get clean' does too.  How do
you think APT is broken now?

RS> How can I bring this back?

Is it just complaining because the directory is missing?  Try 'mkdir
/var/cache/apt/archives' as root.

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Re: rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/

2001-05-30 Thread Ian Greenhoe
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 02:13:45AM +0530, Rajkumar S. wrote:
> Just before I found out the apt-get clean I wiped out the
> /var/cache/apt/archives/. As it can be expected I badly screwed my apt-get
> :)
> 
> How can I bring this back?


Just do (as root, of course):

mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
chmod 755 /var/cache/apt/archives/partial

touch /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
chmod 640 /var/cache/apt/archives/lock

(You may not need to re-create the lock file, as apt-get will probably
do it.)

In any case, you can use the following commands to clean out your
cache (in the future):

apt-get clean

apt-get autoclean
  (my preferred way, only deletes old debs)

rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/*.deb

HTH,
Ian




kde.tdyc.com gone?

2001-05-30 Thread Peter Hicks
I cannot seem to reach this host. Is there another source for the kde .debs?



Re: One For The Record Books

2001-05-30 Thread Vinod Kurup
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 03:10:53PM -0500, will trillich wrote:
> i once got an answer that predated my question, but temporal
> displacement notwithstanding, it was attributable to borked
> clock settings. 
> 

LOL

I need to get myself one of those temporal displacement machines. When's
that going to get into 'testing'?

Vinod

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Re: apt-get --print-uris in NoLocking mode

2001-05-30 Thread will trillich
On Sun, May 20, 2001 at 01:56:23AM +0200, Santi B?jar wrote:
>I try to get a list of all the .deb to be installed (with
>--print-uris), but I have to do it like root. I thought that if I add
> a "-o Debug::NoLocking=yes" would make it possible to run it like
> user. But I get this:
> 
> bash$ apt-get --print-uris -o Debug::NoLocking=yes upgrade
> E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.

installing a package is something that'll affect anything from a
tiny pocket of a remote corner of a dusty drawer in the far
reaches of your system -- to upgrading your kernel.

you wouldn't want gomer or floyd or opie to be able to do that,
now, would you? gotta be root to do root-level things.

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kernel 2.4.4 and ES1371 soundcard

2001-05-30 Thread Mike Pfleger
Hello.

Well; I gave in and compiled a 2.4.4 kernel on testing the other day.
I set up a bunch of things as loadable modules, including soundcore,
es1371, gameport, input, joydev and analog.  To my surprise, a module
called:
ac97_codec
was also built, and is depended upon by es1371.  This wasn't a module
that showed up in 2.2.1x kernels I've built and used in the past.

Interestingly, the analog joystick port is not (apparently) visible to
the system, and my attempts to configure the module have failed.  Has
anyone had any luck with this configuration?

TIA,
-- 
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Where are they hiding?
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Re: file search in package archives?

2001-05-30 Thread Colin Watson
DvB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>dpkg -S does this on installed packages but is there a way to search for 
>a file in packages that aren't installed yet? Does apt store this 
>information?

No, but you could download dists/whatever/Contents-i386.gz (or similar
for other architectures) every so often from a nearby Debian archive and
run zgrep on that. That's usually the fastest way.

Cheers,

-- 
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rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/

2001-05-30 Thread Rajkumar S.
Hi all,

Just before I found out the apt-get clean I wiped out the
/var/cache/apt/archives/. As it can be expected I badly screwed my apt-get
:)

How can I bring this back?

raj



Re: galeon 0.10.6 Packages anywhere ?

2001-05-30 Thread Hall Stevenson
> > download the 0.10.6 source code .tar.gz and do the
> > following:
> >
> > tar -zxvf galeon-0.10.6.tar.gz
> > cd galeon-0.10.6
> > ./configure
>
> Done that, installed tons of .dev (and other) packages,
> but whatever I do, it will not get past the ./configure
> stage.
>
> The stage where things go wrong is:
>
> checking for gnome-config... /usr/bin/gnome-config
> checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.0... yes
> checking for additional GNOME modules...  vfs
> checking for oaf-config... /usr/bin/oaf-config
> checking for OAF - version >= 0.6.2... no
>
> When I run oaf, I get:
>
> $ /usr/bin/oaf-config --version
>
> So the configure script is obviousli wrong.

Have you deleted the config.cache file and tried it again ??
Actually, I think ./configure would output a line like

checking for gnome-config... /usr/bin/gnome-config
checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.0... yes (cached)

if you didn't. Just in case though...

Hall




Re: network performance

2001-05-30 Thread Colin Watson
"Alexander Gun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>how can i test my network performance
>without copying one file from maschine a to maschine b ?
>
>i dont want to test my harddrive speed!!

Set up a web server on one machine and download several large files
simultaneously from it on the other. After each file is sent for the
first time, it should be cached in memory, by which point any
half-decent web server should be able to saturate 100Mbit Ethernet and
more with ease.

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Re: Why everything in German?

2001-05-30 Thread will trillich
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 02:49:17PM -0600, Roberto Magana wrote:
> Good Day, has the language of the list being changed to German? If so,
> please announce it so I can switch to a list in english.

oui, monsieur.

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Why are *.rpm (RED HAT PACKAGES) considered spawn of Satan?
Because the Debian package system is a lot more sophisticated
than the one Red Hat uses; lots more inter-dependency information
is built in to a *.deb package. If you bypass that with an *.rpm
file, you're taking chances with your system. Try to "apt-get
install " packages if possible. (Also check out the
"alien" package if you must.)

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Re: fetchmail logs

2001-05-30 Thread Jeroen Valcke
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:20:20PM +0200, Jeroen Valcke wrote:
> I accidently deleted a mail. I would help me a lot if I could recover the
> email address of the mail. Does fetchmail keep any logs by default? I
> would think so? But can't find them, where can I find them?

Oke, I already figured this out myself with a little bit of help.
Fetchmail just hands the mail over too the MTA, exim in my case.
Found it in the exim logs.

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Re: ~/.Xmodmap (was: Customizing the console key map?)

2001-05-30 Thread Mike Pfleger
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 04:01:13PM -0400, Paul D. Smith wrote:
> I'll repeat my previous advice: use xkeycaps.
> 
> Life is too short to futz with modmap.

Yes, well; using xkeycaps doesn't teach me anything, does it?
-- 
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There's seventy brilliant people on earth.
Where are they hiding?
"Yashar" -Cabaret Voltaire (off of "2x45")



Re: One For The Record Books

2001-05-30 Thread will trillich
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 03:56:03PM -0500, Andrew D Dixon wrote:
> This is just a little rave about the "customer service" that you get
> when you "buy" a Debian GNU/Linux distribution.
> 
> At 16:29:21 (EST) on Wed, 23 May I posted a question "file types" to the
> list because I had a problem getting the LCD on the front of my box
> working.  I thought it was a tough question (how many times have you
> seen an lcd on a computer?), but FOUR MINUTES !!! later (15:33:35 CDT) I
> received a response that fixed the problem.
> 
> It's gotta be some sort of record.

pooh. four minutes? hell, i've posted questions that haven't got
answered for nearly an hour. four minutes ain't no record.

heck, microso~1 can take DAYS before telling you that you're not
allowed to access that information, or to provide you with
technically correct but completely irrelevant information, or to
tell you that broekn behavior is by design.


oh, you're gawking at the other end of the spectrum... :)


i once got an answer that predated my question, but temporal
displacement notwithstanding, it was attributable to borked
clock settings. 

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Did you know you have MORE THAN ONE CONSOLE to use? There's six,
by default: try Control-Alt-F6 to see console six, Ctl-Alt-F3 for
console 3, and so forth. (If you don't use the X window display
system, you don't need to include the control key.) Each console
can have its own login, running its own jobs. Very handy!

Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...



Re: oops

2001-05-30 Thread will trillich
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:15:39PM -0600, HAL 9000 wrote:
>The next day I was playing with a operational Linux system which would boot
> from the hard drive.  Since I'm a complete novice at Linux I didn't know even
> how to view a directory.  I had seen the install done so I thought I'd
> re-install and this time write down the error messages and try and decide if
> they were serious.
> 
> O O P S ! ! !
> 
> When I got into the "Install operating system kernel and modules" step I
> didn't know how to tell it to use the CD reader to input the drivers.  I
> couldn't figure out how to back out of that procedure.  So, I re booted.

you've been accustomed to using windo~1, haven't you? bad dog.

> O O P S ! !

why not re-boot from the CD and reformat, repartition and
reinstall, since you don't have diddly customized yet?

and yes, it's good to take notes.

--

uppercase and lowercase matter in the real world:

ls
dir
ls -a
ls -l
ls -F

and combining those last three,

ls -laF
ls -aFl

those are likely to show you which files you've got.

use

cd somedir
cd ../../xyz/otherplace

to move around. i'd recommend

apt-get install mc

to install the midnight commander utilities, then

mcedit somefile.xyz

to munge some text in file 'somefile.xyz' or just

mc

to snoop around your filesystem. a nice quickie start environment
for a newbie-type.

also check out the help-system newbieDoc at
http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/general/help-system.en.html

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Looking to run a command or two at REGULAR INTERVALS?  Try
"crontab -e" for starters (see "man cron" or "man crontab").
You might also investigate the "anacron" package.

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file search in package archives?

2001-05-30 Thread DvB
dpkg -S does this on installed packages but is there a way to search for 
a file in packages that aren't installed yet? Does apt store this 
information?


I found http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages which works fine but was 
wondering if there was a way to do it without a net connection.


Being able to do this probably would've saved me a lot of trouble when 
my kernel compile failed last night with "as86: Command not found"...


TIA


P.S. the installer in potato is a vast improvement over slink, IMO. The 
"simple" package selection makes a world of difference. I'm one step 
closer to switching over to Debian :-)




Re: ~/.Xmodmap (was: Customizing the console key map?)

2001-05-30 Thread Paul D. Smith
I'll repeat my previous advice: use xkeycaps.

Life is too short to futz with modmap.

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Re: Jumpstart install of debian?

2001-05-30 Thread Andrew D Dixon
Another solution would be to use cpio to make an archive of the file
system and then expand this out onto a clean machine.  I recently did
this and found it to be relatively painless.  I did only use one large
partition (well two but I'm not counting the swap ;).  On the machine
you want to mirror run:
#find / -xdev |cpio --create >arcive.cpio
Then on the clean machine (partition, mkswap, mke2fs):
#cpio --extract --no-absolute-filenames\ < archive.cpio
later,
Andy

"Robert L. Harris" wrote:
> 
> This looks like a great start.
> 
> Thanks
>   Robert
> 
> Thus spake Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > "Robert L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Has anyone got a "scripted jumpstart" to work?  I.E., for a very
> > >standard config things such as keyboard type, packages, etc are
> > >pre-configured and install/configure automatically?
> >
> > You could try this (although I admit I haven't), available in testing
> > and unstable:
> >
> > Package: fai
> > Priority: extra
> > Section: admin
> > Installed-Size: 1064
> > Maintainer: Thomas Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Architecture: all
> > Version: 2.0
> > Depends: bootp | dhcp, perl5, nfs-server, netboot
> > Recommends: tftpd, rsh-server, fai-kernels
> > Suggests: ssh, wget
> > Filename: pool/main/f/fai/fai_2.0_all.deb
> > Size: 283820
> > MD5sum: bdeeca32054f0447aab5c6de28dcab59
> > Description: fully automatic installation
> >  FAI is a non interactive system to install a Debian Linux operating
> >  system on a PC cluster. You can take one or more virgin PCs, turn on
> >  the power and after a few minutes Linux is installed, configured and
> >  running on the whole cluster, without any interaction necessary.
> >  Homepage: http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
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Re: galeon 0.10.6 Packages anywhere ?

2001-05-30 Thread joost witteveen
> download the 0.10.6 source code .tar.gz and do the following:
> 
> tar -zxvf galeon-0.10.6.tar.gz
> cd galeon-0.10.6
> ./configure

Done that, installed tons of .dev (and other) packages, but
whatever I do, it will not get past the ./configure
stage.

The stage where things go wrong is:

checking for gnome-config... /usr/bin/gnome-config
checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.0... yes
checking for additional GNOME modules...  vfs 
checking for oaf-config... /usr/bin/oaf-config
checking for OAF - version >= 0.6.2... no

When I run oaf, I get:

$ /usr/bin/oaf-config --version

So the configure script is obviousli wrong.

Looking at the conftest.c program the ./configure script generated,
it is obviously wrong:
it declares:
  int major, minor, micro;
but later uses:
  if ((liboaf_major_version != 0) ||
  (liboaf_minor_version != 6) ||
  (liboaf_micro_version != 5))

So it looks to mi like an error in the ./configure script 
(that script has nearly the same .c file in it)

$ md5sum ./configure ../galeon-0.10.6.tar.gz
8fa8cc7ca45b3d090029834a449ffbe1  ./configure
eda0f7dc904298dcdff09e871825eaf7  ../galeon-0.10.6.tar.gz

Am I going mad?



Below is the more complete ./configure log (from after it tests for
the oaf version):

checking for GNOME - version >= 1.2.0... yes
checking for additional GNOME modules...  vfs 
checking for oaf-config... /usr/bin/oaf-config
checking for OAF - version >= 0.6.2... no
*** Could not run OAF test program, checking why...
*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
*** exact error that occured. This usually means OAF was incorrectly installed
*** or that you have moved OAF since it was installed. In the latter case, you
*** may want to edit the oaf-config script: /usr/bin/oaf-config
checking for gconf-config... /usr/bin/gconf-config
checking for GCONF - version >= 0.12... yes
checking for libglade-config... no
checking for libglade... no
checking for orbit-config... /usr/bin/orbit-config
checking for ORBit - version >= 0.5.1... yes
checking for orbit-idl... /usr/bin/orbit-idl
checking for gdk-pixbuf-config... no
checking for GDK_PIXBUF - version >= 0.9.0... no
*** The gdk-pixbuf-config script installed by GDK_PIXBUF could not be found
*** If GDK_PIXBUF was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
*** your path, or set the GDK_PIXBUF_CONFIG environment variable to the
*** full path to gdk-pixbuf-config.
checking for PR_Init in -lnspr4... yes
checking for PL_strcmp in -lplc4... yes
checking for PL_NewHashTable in -lplds4... yes
checking for xpcom... yes
checking for gdk_superwin_get_type in -lgtksuperwin... no
checking for gtk_moz_embed_get_type in -lgtkembedmoz... no
checking for Mozilla... no
configure: error: 
*** Mozilla 0.9 is required 
*** A package for 0.9 is available here:
*** http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/software/.




$ dpkg -l mozil*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  mozilla0.9-0.0.3  An Open Source WWW browser for X and GTK+
ii  mozilla-dev0.9-0.0.3  Header files for Mozilla development
un  mozilla-dmotif  (no description available)
rc  mozilla-smotif 5.0b1-2Mozilla Navigator



Re: network performance

2001-05-30 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Alexander Gun wrote:

>how can i test my network performance
>without copying one file from maschine a to maschine b ?

bing, ping, sing, depending on what your needs are...

>i dont want to test my harddrive speed!!
>
>is there a tool out?
>give me ideas...
>
>
>thanks a lot
>ag
>
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>
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>

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Re: newbie: Help, I'm stuck!

2001-05-30 Thread will trillich
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 01:45:04AM -0400, Roderick Cummings wrote:
> >From: Scott Frankel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   Problem 2: dselect config file mulched
> >
> >I've inadvertantly hoarked whatever shoot-myself-in-the-foot.config
> >file it is that controls what the dselect program can access.  I can't
> >seem to get a package list update from the CD's I installed from.
> >With this remedied, maybe I could install the man pages!  In any event,
> >this leads to the frustrating:
> 
> Check out /etc/apt/sources.list Unless you totally deleted it, it probably 
> have a few default sources you can uncomment. Man/info will can provide more 
> info if not. also you could try re-running the first option on deselect and 
> resetup apt.

if you have apt-setup it'll get you started.

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Re: /etc/rc* and locate

2001-05-30 Thread joost witteveen
> > > I have no
> > > program which runs update nightly.
> > 
> > I think you do. see /etc/cron.daily/find
> >
> Sorry, I didn't know that. Makes the anomaly even more difficult to
> understand though

Yes.

It looks like your updatedb doesn't do what it should do.
You could try and remove the file /var/lib/locate/locatedb,
and then run updatedb. Does it re-create the file? If so,
does locate still show the /etc/rc* files?

Does  /etc/updatedb.conf have any funky contents?

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Re: `who' is broken?

2001-05-30 Thread will trillich
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 02:56:45PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i'm running i386 debian unstable.
> 
> the who program is cutting off the locations strangely, as you'll see
> below.  also when logged in from a dialup with a long reverse
> hostname, who will only print part of the first entry and segfault.
> 
> is this a known problem?  it's been pretty consistent for at least a
> month for me.  `w' and `last' work fine.

maybe the /var/run/utmp file gets borked?

the 'last' command has similar fuxnorication now and then as the
/var/log/wtmp gets corrupt. just a guess.

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(Different implementions have the  completion set up
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Re: Newbie questions !

2001-05-30 Thread will trillich
On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 04:10:57PM +1000, Steve Kieu wrote:
> If I dont want to run for example crond at boot time
> how can I disable it? it is not the way to delete the
> symlink in /etc/rc.2/ or chmod -x /etc/init.d/crond I
> think. 

update-rc.d crond remove

or to have it enabled only in runlevel 4,

update-rc.d crond start 50 4 . stop 50 2 3 5 .

(presuming a priority/sequence of 50 is kopacetic with you.)

man update-rc.d

for more info.

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Re: line numbers in code

2001-05-30 Thread will trillich
On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 03:41:38AM -0600, John Galt wrote:
> In vi, :1267 works...

Also, for vim, start your editing session right at the exact line
you're interested in via

vi +1267 filename.here

Or, if already editing the file, hop to that line with

1267G


You can also

:set ruler
or
^G (control G)

to see where you are in the file.


You can also try

:set number

to see line numbers.


Try :opt and search for /jumping to errors/ for ideas.  and :help
for more vim tips.

or, use emacs instead. choices, choices.

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fetchmail logs

2001-05-30 Thread Jeroen Valcke
I accidently deleted a mail. I would help me a lot if I could recover the
email address of the mail. Does fetchmail keep any logs by default? I
would think so? But can't find them, where can I find them?

Thanks

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X win sys 4.x and potato

2001-05-30 Thread MRZ
Hi folks.
I'm running an install of potato that I want to upgrade to the 4.0 version of 
X. Someone pointed me to the debs put together by Branden and I've been 
struggling with this ever since. 
After scouring the archives I've found a few answers which have moved me ahead 
somewhat, but I'm now totally stuck. 

I now get no actual errors and everything appears to be where it is expected to 
be but X fails to start correctly. More accurately, from the CLI when I 
"startx" the server seems to start but gives me a message "Waiting for X server 
to begin accepting connections". It will sit like that for as long as my 
patience holds out and I don't ctrl-break..

A quick recap of what I've done:
1. Added "deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf403_potato/i386/" and 
"...xf403_potato/all/" to my sources list.
2. Did an apt-get update
3. Did an apt-get dist-upgrade
4. Downloaded and installed (using dpkg) the libfreetype6 debs (also from 
Branden).
5. Did an apt-get xbase-clients (resolves dependency issue?)
6. Created the symlink "/etc/X11/X" pointing to /usr/bin/X11/Xfree86".
(I don't understand why I would create a symlink to a symlink instead of 
linking directly but there it is, and that's what I've done.)
7. ran "xf86config", and even tried "xfree86cfg" - successfully created the 
XF86Config-4 file.

I even tried to install those libfreetype6 packages before doing the 
dist-upgrade so as to head off the dependency issues. Strangely,  the 
libfreetype6 debs aren't seen as valid debs until AFTER I've done the 
dist-upgrade, at which point I understand that I must go back and do step#5 
(see above).

Thanks,
Marc.



cyrus imap sendmail debian

2001-05-30 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer
 am trying to configure a cyrus imapd with sendmail.  I have the Managing IMAP 
from O'Reilly that I am using to help configure.
Does debian sendmail compile with IMAP support?  Do I edit the sendmail.cf file 
to have sendmail route mail to the Cyrus spool?
O'Reilly talks about a different CF file for IMAP but it is not found in the 
directory with the sendmail.cf file.  This is why I was prompted
to ask if sendmail has IMAP support built in.


Lance



network performance

2001-05-30 Thread Alexander Gun
how can i test my network performance
without copying one file from maschine a to maschine b ?

i dont want to test my harddrive speed!!

is there a tool out?
give me ideas...


thanks a lot
ag

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Re: web management question

2001-05-30 Thread will trillich
On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 01:01:53PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> The directory ~/public_html is made accessible as:
> 
> http://server/~user/
> 
> ...with the appropriate configuration changes in /etc/apache/access.conf
> and /etc/apache/srm.conf.

LoadModule userdir_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_userdir.so
UserDir /var/something/student/*/personal-web-pages

so when apache got a request for your.domain.here/~bubba/something 
it'd use /var/something/student/bubba/personal-web-pages/something
as its file-path.

i'd either stick with "public_html" or "www".

> Files in these directories need to be world readable.

at least www-data readable, if you're using the default
User www-data
Group www-data

:)

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Framebuffer aty128fb - halfway

2001-05-30 Thread Imre Vida
i compiled kernel-2.2.19 to set up framebuffer dev.
during boot up kernel recognizes the card properly and
sets the default mode with 80x30 console screen.

so far good, however, i would love to use some xxx x yyy console
after all this is why i started this job on the first place. 
so i started to play with fbset and lilo append
with some funny outcome:

1) lilo append:
i tried several different cmdline versions eg.:
video=aty128fb:mode:1024x768,...
video=aty128fb:xres:1024,yres:768,
or 
video=aty128fb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] as suggested in the kernel-2.4.4
documentation of aty128
with "vga=792" 
the kernel boots and sets fb again and again to the default
640x480...

2) fbset: 
i can set any mode defined in /etc/fb.modes and the console
first looks OK  and works OK in a pure "forward" mode 
but if i start editing or searching back in the  history 
the cursor disappears and editing do not show up

on the other hand, midnight commander works absolutely fine and looks
gorgeous ;-)


can anyone, please, tell me what could be the problem?


thanks,

imre



Re: Using tar saving Disk-space [was: apt-get offline]

2001-05-30 Thread John Galt
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Joerg Johannes wrote:

>Hi list
>
>Now that I can transfer my downloaded .debs in a .tar file, I wonder if
>I could create this .tar file saving disk space, e.g. in the following
>way
>
>
>create a tar file (touch packages.tar?)

unnecessary, and in fact will break the script...

>for *.deb in this directory

foreach foo (./*.deb)

>   1.) add it to the tar file

tar -u $foo -f packages.tar

>   2.) rm this .deb

rm $foo

>end

end

>
>
>Is this possible for (non-GNU)-tar?

I think that I made it basic enough to be portable...

>How would this look for the csh?

That's what I was writing it for (actually, tcsh, but it should be
backwards compatible...)

>Even better: Could this be included in the wget-script?

?!  you have a script already that you want to add this stuff to?  That'd
be easier by far, because you'd only have to select once and not select,
then select on *.deb.

>thanks
>
>joerg
>

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Re: VM problem

2001-05-30 Thread D-Man
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 08:11:26PM +0400, Ilya Martynov wrote:
| 
| BF> Hi,
| BF> I have installed the Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r1 on my machine. A few days
| BF> after the installation I noticed some strange messages from the kernel
| BF> (samples below) concerning the virtual memory (do_try_to_free_pages failed
| BF> for...).
| BF> I have a second distribution on my machine (a RedHat GNU/Linux),
| BF> I haven't seen these error messages (althought I'm not working a lot with
| BF> this distribution). First I thought that there was a problem in the kernel
| BF> version (the first one was 2.2.17). My reflex was to recompile a new
| BF> kernel (new version : 2.2.18pre21) but the problem seems to endure.
| BF> I have already re-formatted my swap partition.
| 
| BF> If you have an idea of where the problem comes from please tell me.
| 
| AFAIK it is a bug in kernel. 2.2.19 should fix it.

Ok, I'll double check which kernel that box is running (probably
Potato's default).  Are there any docs that explain what apt does and
doesn't do and what must be done by hand (other than reconfiguring the
boot loader)?  I've upgrade kernels manually before, but that was on a
RH machine when I didn't know how to configure modules.

Thanks,
-D



Re: Jumpstart install of debian?

2001-05-30 Thread Robert L. Harris

This looks like a great start.

Thanks
  Robert


Thus spake Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> "Robert L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Has anyone got a "scripted jumpstart" to work?  I.E., for a very
> >standard config things such as keyboard type, packages, etc are 
> >pre-configured and install/configure automatically?
> 
> You could try this (although I admit I haven't), available in testing
> and unstable:
> 
> Package: fai
> Priority: extra
> Section: admin
> Installed-Size: 1064
> Maintainer: Thomas Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Architecture: all
> Version: 2.0
> Depends: bootp | dhcp, perl5, nfs-server, netboot
> Recommends: tftpd, rsh-server, fai-kernels
> Suggests: ssh, wget
> Filename: pool/main/f/fai/fai_2.0_all.deb
> Size: 283820
> MD5sum: bdeeca32054f0447aab5c6de28dcab59
> Description: fully automatic installation
>  FAI is a non interactive system to install a Debian Linux operating
>  system on a PC cluster. You can take one or more virgin PCs, turn on
>  the power and after a few minutes Linux is installed, configured and
>  running on the whole cluster, without any interaction necessary.
>  Homepage: http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
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Re: Jumpstart install of debian?

2001-05-30 Thread Colin Watson
"Robert L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Has anyone got a "scripted jumpstart" to work?  I.E., for a very
>standard config things such as keyboard type, packages, etc are 
>pre-configured and install/configure automatically?

You could try this (although I admit I haven't), available in testing
and unstable:

Package: fai
Priority: extra
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 1064
Maintainer: Thomas Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: all
Version: 2.0
Depends: bootp | dhcp, perl5, nfs-server, netboot
Recommends: tftpd, rsh-server, fai-kernels
Suggests: ssh, wget
Filename: pool/main/f/fai/fai_2.0_all.deb
Size: 283820
MD5sum: bdeeca32054f0447aab5c6de28dcab59
Description: fully automatic installation
 FAI is a non interactive system to install a Debian Linux operating
 system on a PC cluster. You can take one or more virgin PCs, turn on
 the power and after a few minutes Linux is installed, configured and
 running on the whole cluster, without any interaction necessary.
 Homepage: http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai

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Jumpstart install of debian?

2001-05-30 Thread Robert L. Harris


Has anyone got a "scripted jumpstart" to work?  I.E., for a very
standard config things such as keyboard type, packages, etc are 
pre-configured and install/configure automatically?


:wq!
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  at RnD Consulting |  and security just aren't
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DISCLAIMER:
  These are MY OPINIONS ALONE.  I speak for no-one else.
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 perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'



Re: ~/.Xmodmap (was: Customizing the console key map?)

2001-05-30 Thread Mike Pfleger
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:50:44AM -0400, John S. J. Anderson wrote:

> Have you tried using a real keysym for the menu key? I don't think
> 'Menu' is a real keysym -- try 'Multi-key' or 'Super_R' or 'Hyper_R',
> and then bind ModN (where N=(1..5)) to that keysym.
> 
> My Dvorak xmodmap file is at
> http://genehack.org/linux/dvorak.html>; it may be of help.

Hi John.

To answer your question, I used xev to grab the information on the 
dreaded "menu" key.  It reported (among other things):
keycode 117 (keysym 0xff67, Menu)
when the "menu" key was pressed with the pointer in the "Event Tester"
window.  Is there something I'm missing here?

I've actually checked a file (where, I can't remember) that lists the
various keycodes and keysyms, and that key wasn't in there (listed by
keycode).  I suppose I am wondering just where does xev get the info
for its interpretation of the keypresses?

I'll see if I can use your dvorak xmodmap file for enlightening my
confused self.

Thanks for the help so far.

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Re: Some sugestions of cheanges

2001-05-30 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 04:04:39AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 01:14:22PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 3. In new deb package of apache 1.3.19 every 
> > configuration is made in one file 
> > (/etc/apache/httpd.conf). I segest to make it like 
> > in version 1.3.9
> 
> i would agree with that, huge monsterous bloated monolithic
> configuration files suck IMO.  file a severity wishlist bug report
> against apache.  

The Apache Group decided to move to a single config file a while ago, so
that's the standard now.  Note that, if you still want multiple config files,
there is an Include directive which can be used to break your configuration
up into as many smaller config files as you want, following any scheme you
like.

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Re: VM problem

2001-05-30 Thread Casper Gielen
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:28:18PM +0200, BURLET Frederic wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have installed the Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r1 on my machine. A few days
> after the installation I noticed some strange messages from the kernel
> (samples below) concerning the virtual memory (do_try_to_free_pages failed
> for...).

Upgrade to kernel >= 2.2.19

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Re: the clip in windowmaker

2001-05-30 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 05:36:47PM +1000, Joel Mayes wrote:
> Run the wmpref program, the 7th icon will be "workspace navigation Features
> click on this, and there will be two icons down the right hand side of the box
> on of these enables/disable the application dock, the other enables/disables
> the Clip. ( probably the one with the big disabled cross though it ;-)

If you prefer wmakerconf, it's on the "Workspace" tab, fourth option.
"Open application clip on startup (startup option)"

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Re: KDE on stable

2001-05-30 Thread will trillich
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 12:04:01PM +0100, Ian Lee wrote:
> Why does KDE for potato, depend on libssl096?
> libssl096 is in woody and sid not potato (according to debian package search).

helli-phyno...

> has anybody got KDE to work in potato? if so could the apt lines please.


# security stuff for potato
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib 
non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org potato/updates main contrib non-free

# kde stuff for potato
deb http://kde.rap.ucar.edu stable main crypto optional qt1apps
deb http://ftp.sourceForge.net/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/latest/distribution/deb 
stable main


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contrib non-free
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Re: *** Newbie Question About PostgreSQL ***

2001-05-30 Thread will trillich
On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 07:49:46PM -0400, Arcadio A. Sincero Jr. wrote:
> Hello list,

wrong list. try pgsql-general@postgresql.org instead.

> I'd like to set up Postgresql so that users can have "read-only" access to a
> database.  Right now, I only know how to set it so a user can have all or
> nothing access by adding something like the following in the pg_hba.conf
> file:
> 
> localmydbcryptusers.mydb
> 
> And put the names of all the users I want to allow access to the "mydb"
> database into the users.mydb file.  But like I said, this only allows all or
> nothing access to the database.  A user can still do a CREATE TABLE and add
> additional tables to the database.  Is there anyway to have it so a user can
> only do SELECTs?  Thanks.

according to /usr/share/doc/postgresql-doc/html/user/sql-grant.htm
(apt-get install postgresql-doc) the objects you can grant and
revoke priviliges from tables, but not databases.

you can specity 'public' meaning "everyone at large that's not
specifically mentioned in a contrary access rule" but it looks
like you'll need to iterate for each table you've got.

unless i'm wrong, of course.

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Re: duplicating a partition

2001-05-30 Thread Dave Carrigan
Amardeep Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> i have ext2 but now i want to switch to reiserfs
> i have an empty partition, which is not being used
> now, i would like to copy the contents of /dev/hda5 (existing ext2
> partition) to /dev/hda8 (new empty reiserfs partition). but i donot know
> what is the best way to do it.

Assuming that the /dev/hda partition you want to copy is mounted on /data:

 mount /dev/hda8 /mnt
 cd /data
 find . -xdev -print0 | cpio -pvdm0 /mnt

If you want to move the / partition, do the same thing as above, then cd
to /mnt/etc, and change fstab and lilo.conf to represent the new root
disk. Then, do

 chroot /mnt lilo 

to install a new version of lilo. Alter instructions accordingly if you
use a different boot loader.

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Re: firewall log message question

2001-05-30 Thread will trillich
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 01:30:54AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Am 29. May, 2001 schwäzte will trillich so:
> > Security Violations
> > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > May 23 12:51:01 server kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth1 PROTO=1 
> > 192.168.1.62:3 208.33.90.85:13 L=56 S=0x00 I=30114 F=0x T=248 (#5)
> > May 23 12:51:05 server kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth1 PROTO=1 
> > 192.168.1.62:3 208.33.90.85:13 L=56 S=0x00 I=30125 F=0x T=248 (#5)
> > May 23 12:51:11 server kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth1 PROTO=1 
> > 192.168.1.62:3 208.33.90.85:13 L=56 S=0x00 I=30140 F=0x T=248 (#5)
> > May 23 12:51:23 server kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth1 PROTO=1 
> > 192.168.1.62:3 208.33.90.85:13 L=56 S=0x00 I=30167 F=0x T=248 (#5)
> 
> Don't know ICMP well enough to tell you the significance of 3 and 13.
> 
> Is eth1 your internal or your external interface, e.g. 192.168.1.0/24 or
> 208.33.90.85? If it's your external the packet was coming from upstream,
> e.g. your ISP connection.

ifconfig reminds me that it's 208.33.90.85, so it came from Out
There Somewhere.

> Did you ping and traceroute to 192.168.1.62 to make sure it's not out there?

all packets died. no such route, etc.

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ssh2 (open ssh) compiled for stable?

2001-05-30 Thread Bryan Walton
I have a firewall running Debian stable that I don't want to upgrade to
testing.  I see that Open SSH version 2.5.2 is in testing and unstable and
that 1.2.3 is the version in stable.  Am I correct in thinking that the
version for stable available at security.debian.org has the bug fixes
backportted to it?  Or are there bug fixes only available in the testing and
unstable versions?  If that is the case, is there a version of ssh 2.5.2
built for stable somewhere?

Thanks,
Bryan

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duplicating a partition

2001-05-30 Thread Amardeep Singh
i have ext2 but now i want to switch to reiserfs
i have an empty partition, which is not being used
now, i would like to copy the contents of /dev/hda5 (existing ext2
partition) to /dev/hda8 (new empty reiserfs partition). but i donot know
what is the best way to do it.

any hints?

thanx,
amardeep



Noisy phone line drops connection

2001-05-30 Thread Scott_Patterson
Hello,

I've got a noisy phone line at home causing dialup problems. I can now connect
successfully by extending the dialup time (chat -t 120...thanks John H.).

The problem now is that my connection drops sometimes after I've connected to my
ISP. Is there some parameter or option I can set that won't cause the connection
to drop when there is some line noise/static?

I plan on calling the phone company today to have this nosiy phone line looked
at, but in the meantime this would help.

Thanks,
Scott




Re: Can't find ssh [Thanks]

2001-05-30 Thread John Galt
On Tue, 29 May 2001, Andy Davidson wrote:

>Thanks to all who responded.  I now have ssh up and running.  And I clearly
>need to learn more about apt-get and friends. :-)
>
>Two additional items: one question and one apology.
>
>The question is: Are the non-USA and non-free packages on the CDs or do I

Sort of.  You CAN get/make non-US CDs and non-free CDs, but nobody in
Debian is holding a gun to anyone's head to make them.  I'm thinking most
CD vendors don't want to sell you a pig in a poke, so ask when you look at
buying: if they don't want to tell you what precisely is on the CDs, you
probably don't want them anyhow.

>have to use the internet sites? [Not a huge problem; I only have a 56K
>connection, but I was quite impressed with the speed of the download and
>processing.]

Just set up apt is my advice: 56K is better than I have at home, and I do
pretty good keeping up.

>Also, several of you sent me email along the lines of:
>   >(Also, please don't post in HTML ...)
>I wasn't aware that I was and I'm not too sure how I turn it off. [I am
>currently running Eudora 4.0 on a Windows box.  And this is just another
>good reason to get off Windows. :-) ] Sometimes it asks me if I want to
>send formatted text and sometimes it doesn't. My apologies. [Please let me
>know if this shows up in HTML.]

I didn't see any HTML in this one...

>andy
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: VM problem

2001-05-30 Thread Ilya Martynov

BF> Hi,
BF> I have installed the Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r1 on my machine. A few days
BF> after the installation I noticed some strange messages from the kernel
BF> (samples below) concerning the virtual memory (do_try_to_free_pages failed
BF> for...).
BF> I have a second distribution on my machine (a RedHat GNU/Linux),
BF> I haven't seen these error messages (althought I'm not working a lot with
BF> this distribution). First I thought that there was a problem in the kernel
BF> version (the first one was 2.2.17). My reflex was to recompile a new
BF> kernel (new version : 2.2.18pre21) but the problem seems to endure.
BF> I have already re-formatted my swap partition.

BF> If you have an idea of where the problem comes from please tell me.

AFAIK it is a bug in kernel. 2.2.19 should fix it.

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Re: VM problem

2001-05-30 Thread BURLET Frederic
On Wed, 30 May 2001, D-Man wrote:

> I don't know what causes this, but I have seen it on one of my boxes
> -- the i486 with 8 MB RAM (and 32MB swap).  I haven't seen it on the
> AMD Duron (128MB RAM)
>
> How much memory do you have on this K6?

I have 32MB RAM and 72MB swap.

>
> (BTW, good job of including lots of possibly relevant information.
> Including the /proc/cpuinfo from my box won't help because it doesn't
> say anything -- I don't think the 486 family supports querying)
>
> -D

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Re: VM problem

2001-05-30 Thread D-Man
On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 05:28:18PM +0200, BURLET Frederic wrote:
| Hi,
| 
| I have installed the Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r1 on my machine. A few days
| after the installation I noticed some strange messages from the kernel
| (samples below) concerning the virtual memory (do_try_to_free_pages failed
| for...).
...
| If you have an idea of where the problem comes from please tell me.
...
| Informations about my system (/proc files)
| --
| /proc/cpuinfo
| 
| processor : 0
| vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
| cpu family: 5
| model : 6
| model name: AMD-K6tm w/ multimedia extensions
| cpu MHz   : 233.867

I don't know what causes this, but I have seen it on one of my boxes
-- the i486 with 8 MB RAM (and 32MB swap).  I haven't seen it on the
AMD Duron (128MB RAM)

How much memory do you have on this K6?

(BTW, good job of including lots of possibly relevant information.
Including the /proc/cpuinfo from my box won't help because it doesn't
say anything -- I don't think the 486 family supports querying)

-D



Re: xdm and gdm

2001-05-30 Thread Dave Carrigan
Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1) Recently I read in this mailing list that to use gdm I have to remove
> xdm. Cannot both of them coexist? i.e. both of them are installed. If
> yes then what precautions do I have to take?

The software itself can coexist, but on Debian gdm conflicts with
{w,x,k}dm, so dpkg will not let you have both. There's no technical
reason why both gdm and xdm cannot run at the same time. You just have
to ensure that only one of them is managing a particular X server, by
tweaking xdm's Xservers file, and gdm's gdm.conf file. If you support
XDMCP clients, then you might also tweak Xaccess (and gdm.conf) to
control which DM handles XDMCP requests.

If you just want to run a display manager on your console, gdm offers
everything that xdm offers, and more, so you don't really need xdm.

> 2) From where can I obtain .deb packages of gdm?

Add a deb-src for unstable or testing to your sources.list, apt-get
source gdm, debuild...

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Re: Ximian Gnome Problem

2001-05-30 Thread vester

i had some problems with ximian too (on woody though) ...

for the alternative installation (the apt-get one) have you added the
particular ximian server to your sources-list? i don't remember the
address but you can find it at ximian.com

i remember in the beginning they actually forgot to add the task package,
but i think by now they've added it so basically, when you use potato and
added ximian to your sources list

# apt-get install task-ximian-gnome

should do the job. accordingly it should be easy to get rid of all ximian
packages and start over. i browsed through dselect and marked all packages
with "ximian" in the version number for deletion and that worked fine.

hope that helps!

vester




On Wed, 30 May 2001, Thomas H. George wrote:

> Installation of Ximian Gnome Desktop failed, left problems I can't resolve.
> 
> Last week I started download/installation of the full ximian gnome 
> desktop from the ximian web site.  The lengthy download timed out at 
> about 50%.  When restarted it completed the download of 319 files then 
> the installation failed in mid-process.  A subseqent dpkg command found 
> many conflicting dependencies and aborted unable to resolve them all.  
> The next time I tried to use apt-get it removed 100 files.  After this I 
> no longer had mozilla and when I tried apt-get --fix-broken 
> --fix-missing install mozilla it reported that this could not be 
> installed as an ximian file was to be installed.
> 
> Not knowing how to find and remove the conflicting ximian files and 
> having no mozilla, I thought to try again to install the ximian gnome 
> desktop from the stable distribution (I'm running debian linux 2.2.19) 
> with apt-get install task-ximian-gnome (an alternative listed at the 
> ximian web site)  There is, however, no such .deb package in the stable 
> distribution.  I next looked in ftp.ximian.com where I found a signature 
> package for task-ximian-gnome but nothing else.
> 
> I have sent a couple of emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and yesterday 
> tried filing a bug report but as yet have received no response. 
> 
> Does anyone know how clean up - i.e. remove all the conflicting pieces 
> of the ximian installation - other than wiping out my entire debian 
> installation and starting over?
> 
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Qs about Java 2 and potato, also q about Herald installation

2001-05-30 Thread alice
Hi... tried to find this information in the archives first but it looks like 
the search engine's being a tad misanthropic the last couple of days 
anyways... my questions...

I'm currently running the potato distribution... is Java 2 available for 
that? How do I tell if I have Java 2 installed? 

Herald is the java msn messenger client... when I go to sourceforge 
and get the file it comes as a .jar file. I can't find _any_ documentation 
on how to install it. (And I've spent about a day scouring the 'net) 
What do I do with this file? :)

Suggestions to RTFM are happily accepted if they come with a 
pointer to the relevant FM ;)


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