Re: Logging Init output?

[Ross Boylan]

It is annoying that not all the messages that go to the screen go
somewhere else.  As one possible reason for this, I'll just tell you
what happened when I tried to alter the scripts to write more stuff to
a file: it didn't work.

The problem is that early in the boot process the file system is
read-only (or at least some of the file system is).  Then the fact
that I got errors from illegal writes in turn caused more serious
problems.  At least that was my interpretation of what happened.  I
backed out the logging, and things went back to normal.

Re: tracking down the cause of an entry in syslog?

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

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Re: Potato +sawfish + gnome

[Ross Boylan]

I had similar, not identicial, problems with a similar, not identical,
configuration (see the archives for details).  I finally got things
back by building sawfish-gnome from source. But I've mostly eliminated
the Ximian/Helix stuff from my system, and you're probably using it.

On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 01:11:45PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello everyone.
> Can somebody help me?
> There are some mouse clicks on X running  gnome + sawfish wm 
> are missing. This clicks represents 1/3 of total clicks, and no 
> matter the app. running. Additionaly, sometimes the mouse is 
> dead when back to the X from a virtual console.
> This problem (missing clicks) is not experienced whit enlighnement.
> Previous install of RH6.2 in this machine not to experience this 
> problems. The problems arise when migrating to Debian.
> Thank you very much.
> PD: The box is a potato in a Thunderbird 900 mhz, 512Mb RAM, 
> trio 3d/2x 8Mb AGP video board (diamond stealth).
>  Fernando

Re: tracking down the cause of an entry in syslog?

[Eric G. Miller]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 05:30:29PM -0400, Paul Wright wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been getting an irritating recurring syslog entry that I'd like to 
> track down and stifle, but I'm at a loss as to discover what process is 
> causing the entry.
> 
> The entry is (from logcheck output) this:
> 
> Jun 22 16:02:02 ICMP message type destination unreachable - bad port from 
> 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1->127.0.0.1)
> Jun 22 16:12:37 ICMP message type destination unreachable - bad port from 
> 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1->127.0.0.1)
> Jun 22 16:12:38 ICMP message type destination unreachable - bad port from 
> 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1->127.0.0.1)
> 
> sorry about the no wrap on the quote.
> 
> There are no other events being logged at identical times, or at similar 
> times with identical frequencies in any of my logs.
> 
> Does anyone have advice on how to track down the cause?

Using fetchmail by chance?  Annoying isn't it.

> How can I log (or discover) which port is being sought?

None apparently.  That's probably the problem...

> Is there any way to do this without un-installing individual packages 
> until the entry ceases to be made?

Stop fetchmail and see if they disappear ;)

-- 
Eric G. Miller 

Re: Cross compiling (mingw32)

[David Purton]

On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Joel Mayes wrote:

> G'day All,
> 
> I'm trying to cross compile a the display-dhammpada program for
> a friend who runs a win95 box, I've installed the mingw32 package
> and the target using '-b i586-mingw32msvc'.
> I'm getting an error mesage which reads
> 
> gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cpp0': No such file or directory
> gcc: file path prefix `/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mingw32msvc/2.95.4/' never used
> make: *** [display-dhammapada] Error 1
> 
> Any advice would be very welcome
> 

You could try instad of using the -b option, using the
i586-mingw32msvc-* tools

eg to complie win stuff I just use

$ i586-mingw32msvc-gcc -o helloworld.exe helloworld.c -mwindows

and then you can run your newly created app under wine :)

$ wine helloworld.exe &


cheers

dc


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Re: Gnome - How to install?

[Disembodied Head]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 05:56:37PM -0400, Wayne wrote:
> Hi.
> First let me make an apology to Nick for clicking my send button to soon.
> Well, I don't have an  .xinitrc file. So I looked at the man page for 
> "startx".
> Apparently I'm using the file (xinitrc) in /etc/X11/init. I could see no
> referrence to wmaker in this file. So I tried this "startx gnome-session".
> Sure enough it started gnome. It doesn't look good, but it started.
> I got out of this session ok, but I now have xdm running. Could someone
> tell me how to stop xdm from starting?
> Wayne
> P.S. I'm going to try building my own .xinirc file.

Which version of Debian is it? If it's potato (2.2) then you can make a 
.xsession file, which will tell X what to start no matter how you start it, 
whether that be through XDM or startx or whatever... If not you could just 
apt-get remove xdm like that other guy said... Personally I removed it coz I 
like the text console...
 
> 
> Nick Jennings wrote:
> 
> > edit your .xinitrc (in your home directory)
> > there should be one line containing wmaker or something like that, replace
> > it with:
> >
> > gnome-session
> >
> > then try running X again
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:16:57PM -0400, Wayne wrote:
> > > Hi  again,
> > > When I installed Debian from the CD I got with
> > > the book I purchase, I selected to install all the
> > > GNOME stuff on the CD. When I  "startx" I get
> > > WMAKER. I would like to have GNOME start.
> > > The book doesn't explain how to change
> > > this. Could some kind soul point me to some documentation?
> > > Wayne.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >   Nick Jennings
> 
> 
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Re: A mouse Q..

[Disembodied Head]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 08:56:30PM +0200, Joost Kooij wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 01:05:40PM -0400, Wayne wrote:
> > Hi,
> > To install Debian , for the first time, I used
> > the CD from the book "Debian GNU/Linux Bible"
> > When I assign my mouse protocol  PS/2 and selected
> > the /dev/psaux with Emulate3Button my systems
> > hangs. I have to reboot. If I use Microsoft and
> > /dev/ttyS01 it works. When I boot my system,
> 
> That suggests that the mouse is connected to the serial port, not the
> ps2 port.  Sure enough it shouldn't work with /dev/psaux then.
> Or did you mean to say that you tried it both with a ps2 mouse
> and with a different serial mouse?
> 
> But to hang your whole machine?  Perhaps it is just Xwindows that
> freezes (maybe only for a minute or so).
> 
> There were some ps2 keyboard problems with kernels below 2.2.19 
> IIRC, so it would be worth a try to install a newer kernel than
> the one that came with the installer (2.2.17?)
> 
> > I see that my port PS/2 is recognize. Does anyone
> 
> You probably mean that the kernel prints a message at boot time,
> indicated that it found the ps2 port controller chip in your 
> system and that it activated a driver for it.  Maybe there
> is a bug in the kernel, maybe it is in your cabling.  Impossible 
> to tell from your data.
> 

I agree, I've had some problems with the PS/2 port on my system, in that I have 
a PS/2 controller on my board, but no external port, so every time I try to set 
up my mouse it automatically tries to configure the PS/2 port (Which has been 
quite often of late as I'm rather new to all this). So yes... Be afraid... (I'm 
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Re: local time

[Thomas Zimmerman]

On 22-Jun 05:24, Steve Kowalik wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 03:57:52AM +, John Patton uttered:
> > My systems clock is set for my local time zone (or used to
> > be), which always worked well before. Now it lists the time
> > in UTC (correctly, meaning that the time listed is about
> > 5 hours off of the actual time). This is causing problems
> > with cron. Anybody remember where to configure that stuff?
> > /etc/timezone is set correctly... I just can't find where to
> > tell the system to use CST directly on the hardware clock.
> > 
> Run tzconfig as root.

to set the hardware clock use hwclock. try the --localtime and --systohc
options. (or even take a look at --help.)

Thomas
who also had this problem.



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Re: testing?

[Bob Nielsen]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 10:41:00PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> I'm thinking of upgrading to testing this weekend.  Is it stable enough for
> day-to-day use on a non-server?

I've been using it for several months with few problems.  Upgrading from
potato is occasionally a problem.  See the list archives, particularly
related to perl.  You may have to manually install some things.

testing?

[Carl Fink]

I'm thinking of upgrading to testing this weekend.  Is it stable enough for
day-to-day use on a non-server?
-- 
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Manager, Dueling Modems Computer Forum

Re: Fetchmail + Exim + Other system

[Joost Kooij]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 08:07:40PM -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote:
> How can I make it forward to my local machine if I'm on a dialup account?

Oh, I assumed wrong.  

You can setup a script on the solaris machine that safely flushes your mail
spoolfile to a place in your homedirectory, probably best done using tools
installed on the solaris machine already.  Maybe also gzip it.  Finally,
the script "cat"'s the file to stdout and deletes it (or something more
robust than that, so you have less risk of losing mail due to mistakes).

solaris:~/bin/catmail:

  #!/bin/sh
  $safe_flush > $stash
  gzip -c $stash
  $safe_rm $stash

At home, you dial in and run a script that runs a ssh command on the
solaris machine at school, the script described above.  The output of
this ssh command is redirected by the script at home into a file and
unzipped, which also gives a free cheap transport integrity check.

linux:~/bin/getmail:

  #!/bin/sh
  ssh -q [EMAIL PROTECTED] '~/bin/catmail' > $localfile
  gunzip $localfile
  
This should let you read the file as a folder with a mail client, or
pipe it into procmail or formail.

Cheers,


Joost

Re: System Backup to CD

[ktb]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 05:44:10PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
> Though I kept good notes, it took much effort to restore my current 
> debian linux system with all the apt-get's and other downloads after a 
> hard disk crash wiped out everything.  With Windows I always had to be 
> prepared for system crashes and regularly used DriveImage to copy my 
> complete C-drive with boot sector and my complete D-drive (all my data 
> files) to CD's.  In the early versions it was necessary to copy these 
> drives to .pqi files on other hard drives and then use CDWriter to copy 
> the .pqi files to CD's.  The last version of DriveImage that I purchased 
> could write directly to CD's.  Either way, when Windows crashed - as it 
> often did - I had only to boot to the DriveImage DOS disks and restore 
> the C and D drives from the CD's.  It didn't take more than 20 minutes 
> to get up and running again.
> 
> Linux doesn't crash - at least mine hasn't in spite of all the times I 
> have rebuilt the kernel - but there is a big investment in time and 
> effort getting to where I am today.  I believe Drive Image now 
> understands the linux file structure so I could boot to DOS and make 
> copies of my linux system.
> 
> Still, Debian Linux is so elegant there is very likely a better way.  If 
> so, I haven't found it yet.  If I have missed something obvious, please 
> point me in the right direction.

You should be able to find plenty of info on this by searching the
archives -
http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Debian-Linux/199/0/
http://lists.debian.org/search.html

You could take a look here -
http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html

Also search for something like "backup" at -
http://www.linuxdoc.org/
hth,
kent

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Re: IBM Tokenring problems on Dell Inspiron 8000

[Robert Rakowicz]

Matthias Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi,

> Hallo! 
> 
> I'm struggling to get this IBM Turbo 16/4 PCMCIA card to work on a 2.4.5
> kernel. I'm using debian unstable and the pcmcia-cs 3.1.26 package. 
> 
> Strangely I get the card running with the default kernel 2.2.19pre17 of the
> distro. 
> 
> When I start the token ring card under 2.4.5 with "/etc/init.d/pcmcia start"
> I get 
> 
>   ibmtr_cs:MapMemPage: Bad offset 
> 
> When I use the kernel pcmcia support I get a kernel panic something
> complaining about an killing interupt handler. 
> 
> When I compile pcmcia-cs package by hand and add PnP BIOS resource checking
> I get the Bad offset thing. 
> 
> My /etc/pcmcia/config.opts entries: 
>   # 
>   include port 0x100-0x4ff, port 0x1000-0x17ff 
>   include memory 0xc-0xf 
>   include memory 0xa000-0xa0ff, memory
> 0x6000-0x60ff 
>   include port 0xa00-0xaff 
>   exclude irg 4 
>   exclude irq 7 
>   module "ibmtr_cs" opts "mmiobase=0xd4000 srambase=0xd8000
> ringspeed=16 sramsize=16 irq_list=9" 
>    
> 
> I already tried to remove the whole module line, change values of the
> mmiobase and srambase entries and remove them, set irq_list to different
> values but no success, always the same output except when I hit an already
> used IRQ. 

you need from the linux-tokenring WEB-page, patch for Kernel 2.4.x. I have
it on all my machines with IBM TR ( Olympic, Tropic and LANStreamer, PCI
and PCMCIA ).

Sorry for my englich. It's not my native language :)

Pozdrawiam/Gruß/Regards
Robert Rakowicz
-- 
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Re: Printing with Debian

[D-Man]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 08:35:24PM -0500, Philippe Clérié wrote:
| > Samba will then hand it to lprng, which hands it to magicfilter,
| > which should notice that the file is in the printer's native
| > language (usually some form of PCL) and just send it straight back
| > to lprng, which finally
| 
| Then you don't need magicfilter, right! If all that's being done is
| to print from Windows. In fact for Samba printers all you need is a
| minimal printcap since all the config stuff is done in Windows.

True, unless you want to print from the Linux box as well.

'printcab' and 'cups' were also in the original list.  That is a typo,
it should be 'printcap' and refers to the file /etc/printcap.  It
stands for "PRINTer CAPabilities" and is used to tell lprng (and lpd)
what printer(s) you have and what filters (magicfilter) should be
applied to the data sent to the spooler.

Cups is a completely different system for printing.  If you want to
use cups you don't need lprng or magicfilter, or a printcap.  It has
its own configuration system.  I use cups on my system.  There is a
lot more information regarding cups, and the best place to get it is
the website.

-D

Re: and we won't stop..

[Brendon]

On Saturday 23 June 2001 03:52, you wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 03:25:07AM +0200, Brendon wrote:
> > 2 comps connected to a hub which gets it's 'uplink' from the gateway. one
> > of these computers can ping the gateway (both external ip and internal)
> > and the net. while the other can only ping the other none gateway
> > computer but neither the internal or external ip of the gateway.
>
> Try it with the gateway plugged into an ordinary socket.  Leave the
> "uplink" port unused.

and voila, the newbie's troubles end. I'd ask why.. but i'm too tired to be 
curious. time to sleep.


cheers Joost,

Brendon

Re: Hardware

[ktb]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 10:31:15PM -0300, Antonio Alberto Lobato wrote:
> 
>   Hi all !
> 
>   Where do I find good and free downloads (or on line) of  
> books, manuals, tutorials or guides about hardware ? In English or
> Portuguese.
>   I think it would help me in my linux learning.

You could look for hardware books at a public library.  
"PC Hardware in a Nutshell" by O'Reilly might be a good place to start -
http://www.bookpool.com/.x/ey4xe3m02r/sm/1565925998 

A site like http://www4.tomshardware.com/ can provide information.
Check out http://www4.tomshardware.com/howto/01q1/010115/index.html

A quick search with google.com for "hardware guides" nets lots of
hits.

If you have auctions at government or educational facilities  
in your area pick up some cheap old computers and play with them.

A few ideas anyway.
kent

-- 
 From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted
 First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke

Re: and we won't stop..

[Joost Kooij]

On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 03:25:07AM +0200, Brendon wrote:
> 2 comps connected to a hub which gets it's 'uplink' from the gateway. one of 
> these computers can ping the gateway (both external ip and internal) and the 
> net. while the other can only ping the other none gateway computer but 
> neither the internal or external ip of the gateway. 

Try it with the gateway plugged into an ordinary socket.  Leave the "uplink"
port unused.

Cheers,


Joost

Re: Printing with Debian

[Philippe Clérié]

>
> Samba will then hand it to lprng, which hands it to magicfilter,
which
> should notice that the file is in the printer's native language
(usually
> some form of PCL) and just send it straight back to lprng, which
finally

Then you don't need magicfilter, right! If all that's being done
is to print from Windows. In fact for Samba printers all you need is
a minimal printcap since all the config stuff is done in Windows.

Best regards,
Philippe Clérié (philippe[a]gcal.net)

Re: HP-735 [slightly offtopic]

[Duane Healing]

On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 11:18:50PM -0400, Timothy Ball wrote:
> I have a cool HP-735 but no keyboard or HP-HIL->ps2 connector. I thought
> I could use a serial console to connect to this beast but when I fire up
> minicom no matter what speed or settings I get nothing. Does anyone know
> what I have to do to make this thing do stuff?
> 
> --timball
> 

Take a look at
http://www.oswg.org/oswg-nightly/oswg/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/parisc-linux/parisc-linux-boot/preparation.html#SERIALCONSOLE

You'll need to change the console path, which requires typing, so you'll
need to scrounge up a keyboard for a few minutes at least.

-- 
-Duane
Barbie says, Take quaaludes in gin and go to a disco right away!
But Ken says, WOO-WOO!!  No credit at "Mr. Liquor"!!

Hardware

[Antonio Alberto Lobato]

Hi all !

Where do I find good and free downloads (or on line) of  
books, manuals, tutorials or guides about hardware ? In English or
Portuguese.
I think it would help me in my linux learning.



Thanks
Tom

and we won't stop..

[Brendon]

a last question before i retire for the day. for some reason i'm only able to 
use one machine to access (ping) the gateway.

to be a little less vague:

2 comps connected to a hub which gets it's 'uplink' from the gateway. one of 
these computers can ping the gateway (both external ip and internal) and the 
net. while the other can only ping the other none gateway computer but 
neither the internal or external ip of the gateway. 

the gateway can only ping the fully connected machine, no response from the 
other. 

when switching the sockets (i.e. 'red' went in 'tp1' so now 'tp2' and 'blue' 
from 'tp2' to 'tp1') to which the rj-45 plugs are connected to the hub 
results in a switch of roles between the fully operational computer and the 
less functional one.

this obviously suggests something is wrong with the hub.. but there's not 
exactly much that can be done to make things go wrong...

it's a tp-link 10BASE-T hp8m ethernet hub.

can someone explain this behavior, any hunches.. etc?


Brendon

Re: how to get list of emacs key descriptions

[Walt Mankowski]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 02:54:42PM -0800, Britton wrote:
> I know for example that meta x is described as "\M-x".  How is tab
> described, or how can I find out for a general key.  I'm not seeing it in
> the docs.

Emacs ships with a postscript reference card which lists most of the
default key assignments.  On potato this file is at
/usr/share/emacs/20.7/etc/refcard.ps

If you want to know what a particular key sequence is assigned to,
you can use describe-key (C-h k) then the key(s) you're interested
in.  For example, to find out what function TAB is assigned to, enter
C-h k TAB

Walt



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Re: attaining IO port info for an ISA networkcard

[Brendon]

On Saturday 23 June 2001 02:05, Donald R. Spoon wrote:
> > short question, the subject says it all really. how do you find out which
> > io port your ISA networkcard is using?
>
> Short question, but a long answer .  The answer lies in understanding
> how the kernel handles the ISA bus during bootup AND how your particular
> NIC works.

[snip]

> Another way of finding out the io/irq values to use in modconf(or with
> loadable modules) is just to insert the card into a Winders (Win 95, 98,
> ME, etc) machine and see what it detects, then use the same values for
> your modconf options.  In any case, I would review the copious amount of
> info available on your particular NIC at the site mentioned above.  The
> various ISA NIC's setup will vary somewhat according to the chipset
> used.

ah, thank you kindly.. another problem of many solved :)


Brendon

Re: Fetchmail + Exim + Other system

[Andrew Overholt]

On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Joost Kooij wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 06:30:43PM -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote:
> > If I have to log into my school's server via telnet or ssh and then run a
> > mail program like pine or mutt to access my mail, is there any way I can
> > get this to work with fetchmail?  I know the server does not run POP3 and
> > I've tried fetchmailconf's Probe feature and it says IMAP doesn't work.
> > The school server is running Solaris.
> 
> Set up a ~/.forward file on the solaris machine.  Format is documented
> in aliases(1) if you have it.  Make it forward all mail to your email
> account @ your own machine, after you have ensured that your machine
> will indeed receive mail correctly from the solaris machine and that it
> knows not to start a mail loop if something unexpected happens (dns 
> out of the air for a few minutes, doublebounces, etc.).

How can I make it forward to my local machine if I'm on a dialup account?

--
Andrew Overholt
EngSci 0T3 
Junior Bnad Leedur of the Lady Godiva Memorial Bnad
ERTW

RE: attaining IO port info for an ISA networkcard

[Donald R. Spoon]

> short question, the subject says it all really. how do you find out which io 
> port your ISA networkcard is using?
> 
> 
> Brendon

Short question, but a long answer .  The answer lies in understanding
how the kernel handles the ISA bus during bootup AND how your particular
NIC works.  

If you are using loadable modules for devices on the ISA bus, then you
have to specifiy the port and sometimes the irq.  Some devices, such as
sound cards, may well need other info like DMA, etc.  On the other hand,
if the NIC code is compiled into the kernel (not using loadable
modules), then usually the kernel will scan a range of ports & irqs
specified by the code to "find" the card and initialize it.  If you have
a card with unknown io/irq values, re-compiling the kernel with a
specific piece of code "hardwired" into the kernel will frequently
suffice.  In your case, it would probably be the "ne.o" code.

Most ISA NICs come from the factory with a pre-set io/irq values in it's
EEPROM.  Some support "PnP" operation, but Linux doesn't during bootup
without the use of the "isapnp" program.  Also, most ISA NICs will come
with "setup" program you can run under M$DOS to set the io port and irq
to free values for your system and/or choose "PnP" operation.  This is
great for Winders, but not too useful for Linux users.  You can obtain a
set of Linux diagnostics and setup programs for many cards from Don
Becker's site at: http://www.scyld.com/page/support/network/ .  This
should allow you to "setup" your NIC to whatever values match your
system.  The important thing here is that you should choose these values
correctly.  Linux WILL NOT change these values via PnP, and if you
specify something that conflicts with something else, you WILL have a
resource conflict.   


Another way of finding out the io/irq values to use in modconf(or with
loadable modules) is just to insert the card into a Winders (Win 95, 98,
ME, etc) machine and see what it detects, then use the same values for
your modconf options.  In any case, I would review the copious amount of
info available on your particular NIC at the site mentioned above.  The
various ISA NIC's setup will vary somewhat according to the chipset
used. 

Cheers,
-Don Spoon-

Re: IP Masquerading: no connection to external network

[Brendon]

On Saturday 23 June 2001 01:37, you wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 01:22:37AM +0200, Brendon wrote:
> > On Saturday 23 June 2001 01:11, Joost Kooij wrote:
> > > How did you setup masquerading, did you install ipmasq.deb or did
> > > you try everything by hand?
> >
> > I used the mini howto on www.linuxnewbie.org next to the Masquerading
> > HOWTO. the iptables rules were setup by gShield. when i found that did
> > not work i used the rc.firewall script given by the HOWTO.
>
> My advice: try it first with ipmasq.deb, it is a really nice package.
> It lets you easily set up a basic nat gateway.  Once you get it working
> with ipmasq, you can always change to your homebrew setup.  And if
> it doesn't work with ipmasq either, well, submit a bug against ipmasq
> (after you had rtfm that comes with the package of course).

all in debian style, it worked automagically.. scary :)

cheers, i wasn't familar with the package.

Brendon

Re: IP Masquerading: no connection to external network

[Joost Kooij]

On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 01:22:37AM +0200, Brendon wrote:
> On Saturday 23 June 2001 01:11, Joost Kooij wrote:
> > How did you setup masquerading, did you install ipmasq.deb or did
> > you try everything by hand?
> 
> I used the mini howto on www.linuxnewbie.org next to the Masquerading HOWTO. 
> the iptables rules were setup by gShield. when i found that did not work i 
> used the rc.firewall script given by the HOWTO.

My advice: try it first with ipmasq.deb, it is a really nice package.
It lets you easily set up a basic nat gateway.  Once you get it working
with ipmasq, you can always change to your homebrew setup.  And if
it doesn't work with ipmasq either, well, submit a bug against ipmasq
(after you had rtfm that comes with the package of course).

Another advantage of ipmasq is that if you read the scripts, then that
is a sort of howto in its own right. :-)  And it should of course work
out of the box.  At least that is my experience.

Cheers,


Joost

Re: Tmpfs questions

[Herbert Xu]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 01:15:15PM -0600, Stefan Srdic wrote:
> 
> Just another question, would it be more efficient to use a ramfs instead of a
> tmpfs to mount /tmp onto?

No.
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Email:  Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: Printing with Debian

[Joost Kooij]

On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 01:11:08AM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Can somebody give me a (very) short overview how pronting works und 

No.  (well at least that was short).

> which of them must i use and for what?

Install lprng and magicfilter.  Configure magicfilter.  Maybe
tweak it just a little (if the printer margin is not quite right).

> what is the simplest way to connect my printing system to a Win98 pc over 
> samba?

Unhook the printer from the windows machine, hook it up to the linux
machine.  Install samba on the linux machine.  Let windows print to
linux.  It is very simple, just let windows use the windows printer
driver, but somewhere in the printer dialog, set the "port" or something
like it to point to the samba printer share.

Samba will then hand it to lprng, which hands it to magicfilter, which
should notice that the file is in the printer's native language (usually
some form of PCL) and just send it straight back to lprng, which finally
writes it onto the printer device, which makes the kernel dump it out the 
parallel port of your computer.

Cheers,


Joost

Re: IP Masquerading: no connection to external network

[Brendon]

On Saturday 23 June 2001 01:11, Joost Kooij wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 12:45:18AM +0200, Brendon wrote:
> > 'fraid it had no affect. the syslogs on both machines show nothing out of
> > the ordinary either
>
> How did you setup masquerading, did you install ipmasq.deb or did
> you try everything by hand?

I used the mini howto on www.linuxnewbie.org next to the Masquerading HOWTO. 
the iptables rules were setup by gShield. when i found that did not work i 
used the rc.firewall script given by the HOWTO.

rc.firewall (several comments removed to keep the size down. btw, the gateway 
and other machines use static ip#s):
--
#!/bin/sh
 #
 # Load all required IP MASQ modules
 #
 #   NOTE:  Only load the IP MASQ modules you need.  All current IP MASQ 
 #  modules are shown below but are commented out from loading.

 echo -e "\n\nIPMASQ *TEST* rc.firewall ruleset - v0.50\n"


 # The location of the 'iptables' program
 #IPTABLES=/sbin/iptables
 IPTABLES=/sbin/iptables

 # Need to verify that all modules have all required dependencies
 #
 echo "  - Verifying that all kernel modules are ok"
 /sbin/depmod -a

 #Loads the OUTGOING FTP NAT functionality into the core IPTABLES code
 #
 # Disabled by default -- remove the "#" on the next line to activate
 #/sbin/insmod ip_nat_ftp

 #Load the INCOMING FTP tracking mechanism for the connection tracking
 #code
 #
 # Disabled by default -- remove the "#" on the next line to activate
 #/sbin/insmod ip_conntrack_ftp

 #CRITICAL:  Enable IP forwarding since it is disabled by default since
 echo "  - Enabling packet forwarding in the kernel"
 echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward


 # Dynamic IP users:
 #
# echo "  - Enabling dynamic addressing measures"
# echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_dynaddr


 # Enable simple IP forwarding and Masquerading
 #
 #  NOTE:  In IPTABLES speak, IP Masquerading is a form of SourceNAT or SNAT.
 #
 #  NOTE #2:  The following is an example for an internal LAN address in the
 #192.168.0.x network with a 255.255.255.0 or a "24" bit subnet 
mask
 #connecting to the Internet on external interface "eth0".  This
 #example will MASQ internal traffic out to the Internet not not
 #allow non-initiated traffic into your internal network.
 #  
 # ** Please change the above network numbers, subnet mask, and your 
 # *** Internet connection interface name to match your setup
 # 
 echo "  - Setting the default FORWARD policy to 'DROP'"
 echo "  - Enabling SNAT (IPMASQ) functionality on eth0"
 $IPTABLES -P FORWARD DROP
 $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE

 echo -e "\nDone.\n"
--

output when run:
IPMASQ *TEST* rc.firewall ruleset - v0.50

  - Verifying that all kernel modules are ok
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.5/kernel/net/bridge/bridge.o
  - Enabling packet forwarding in the kernel
  - Setting the default FORWARD policy to 'DROP'
  - Enabling SNAT (IPMASQ) functionality on eth0

Done.

Re: IP Masquerading: no connection to external network

[Joost Kooij]

On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 12:45:18AM +0200, Brendon wrote:
> 'fraid it had no affect. the syslogs on both machines show nothing out of the 
> ordinary either

How did you setup masquerading, did you install ipmasq.deb or did
you try everything by hand?

Cheers,


Joost

Printing with Debian

[Raffaele Sandrini]

Hi

Can somebody give me a (very) short overview how pronting works und 
Debian/Linux...
what are the reasons for:
- printcab
- aps-filter
- ghostscript
- lpr
- bsdlpr (oldlpr)
- cups
which of them must i use and for what?
what is the simplest way to connect my printing system to a Win98 pc over 
samba?

cheers,
Raffaele
-- 
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For encrypted Mail get my Public Key from "search.keyserver.net"
ID is: 0xEC4950E9

Re: shared modem

[John Hasler]

Wasim writes:
> That is, the ability to use a standard modem on COM2 of the server as a
> modem from a virtual COM3 of the windows client.

What's the protocol between the server and the client?
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: exim mutt ?

[Joel Mayes]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:58:50PM +, Robin Gerard wrote:
> Hello,
> Y had to reinstall my potato 2.2r2 
> (I had tried to compile kernel 2.4.5 )
> and there is a change : (exim & mutt)
> 
> before : (complite failure...)
> if user1 send a msg (local) to user2 i.e. :
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  to :[EMAIL PROTECTED] (or localhost)
> the msg goes directly in /var/spool/mail/user2.
> 
> after:
> the msg goes in /var/spool/exim/input  and
> goes to my provider and come back with error,
> because [EMAIL PROTECTED] is unknown for my provider.
> J don't know how to put things back in order.
> 
> Thanks in advance for advices.
> -- 
> Gerard
> 
> 
G'day Gerard,
Have you put the correct e-mail address in /etc/email-addresses ?

Cheers

Joel

Re: Fetchmail + Exim + Other system

[Joost Kooij]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 06:30:43PM -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote:
> If I have to log into my school's server via telnet or ssh and then run a
> mail program like pine or mutt to access my mail, is there any way I can
> get this to work with fetchmail?  I know the server does not run POP3 and
> I've tried fetchmailconf's Probe feature and it says IMAP doesn't work.
> The school server is running Solaris.

Set up a ~/.forward file on the solaris machine.  Format is documented
in aliases(1) if you have it.  Make it forward all mail to your email
account @ your own machine, after you have ensured that your machine
will indeed receive mail correctly from the solaris machine and that it
knows not to start a mail loop if something unexpected happens (dns 
out of the air for a few minutes, doublebounces, etc.).

Cheers,


Joost

how to get list of emacs key descriptions

[Britton]

I know for example that meta x is described as "\M-x".  How is tab
described, or how can I find out for a general key.  I'm not seeing it in
the docs.

Britton Kerin
__
GNU GPL: "The Source will be with you... always."

Re: IP Masquerading: no connection to external network

[Brendon]

On Saturday 23 June 2001 00:35, you wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:56:52PM +0200, Brendon wrote:
> > Gateway: external ip 195.38.200.201 internal ip 192.162.0.1
> > Laptop: internal ip 192.162.0.2
> > desktop:..
> >
> > the gateway is able to access the net and the laptop.
> > the laptop is able to ping the gateway on both it's external and internal
> > ip but cannot access (ping) external sites by either their ip or name.
>
> The laptop has no default route set, is my bet.  If that is the problem,
> then you can fix it on the laptop by doing:
>
> /sbin/route add default gw 192.162.0.1

'fraid it had no affect. the syslogs on both machines show nothing out of the 
ordinary either

Re: Gnome - How to install?

[Joost Kooij]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 05:56:37PM -0400, Wayne wrote:
> First let me make an apology to Nick for clicking my send button to soon.
> Well, I don't have an  .xinitrc file. So I looked at the man page for 
> "startx".
> Apparently I'm using the file (xinitrc) in /etc/X11/init. I could see no
> referrence to wmaker in this file. So I tried this "startx gnome-session".
> Sure enough it started gnome. It doesn't look good, but it started.
> I got out of this session ok, but I now have xdm running. Could someone
> tell me how to stop xdm from starting?

You can't (easily) have both xdm and gdm.

Go into dselect, select gdm.  Dselect will automatically unselect
xdm for you.  Install.

BTW, you're on the right track to read all those scripts littered through
all of /etc/X11.  For all I know it is the fastest way to figure out what
the hell is really going on (or wrong in those cases). ;-P

Cheers,


Joost

Re: IP Maquerading: no connection to external network

[Joost Kooij]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:56:52PM +0200, Brendon wrote:
> Gateway: external ip 195.38.200.201 internal ip 192.162.0.1
> Laptop: internal ip 192.162.0.2
> desktop:..
> 
> the gateway is able to access the net and the laptop.
> the laptop is able to ping the gateway on both it's external and internal ip 
> but cannot access (ping) external sites by either their ip or name.

The laptop has no default route set, is my bet.  If that is the problem, 
then you can fix it on the laptop by doing:

/sbin/route add default gw 192.162.0.1

If the laptop is running the likes of windows, well, maybe call someone
experienced...  I'm not.

Cheers,


Joost

Fetchmail + Exim + Other system

[Andrew Overholt]

Hi,

If I have to log into my school's server via telnet or ssh and then run a
mail program like pine or mutt to access my mail, is there any way I can
get this to work with fetchmail?  I know the server does not run POP3 and
I've tried fetchmailconf's Probe feature and it says IMAP doesn't work.
The school server is running Solaris.

Any suggestions greatly appreciated,

Andrew


--
Andrew Overholt
EngSci 0T3 
Junior Bnad Leedur of the Lady Godiva Memorial Bnad
ERTW

Re: TrueType Font Guide feedback

[csj]

On Thursday 21 June 2001 22:35, Paul D. Smith wrote:
> It's a doc that describes how to get TrueType fonts set up
> correctly on your Debian system.  There is an older (and slightly
> outdated) version for Debian 2.2/stable with XFree86 3.3.6, and the
> new version I just posted for Debian testing/unstable with XFree86
> 4.
>
> There are some Debian packages for the actual fonts; unfortunately
> they don't do everything you need to get them working.  This doc is
> that bit of glue.
>
> I'm hoping to have time to add more info to it on how to use
> non-packaged TrueType fonts; as of now you have to kind of infer a
> lot of stuff in that situation :-/.  But, note that the Microsoft
> core fonts (like Arial, etc.) do have a Debian package (in
> testing/unstable).
>
>
>   http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/

Interesting documents. One font problem however that I have yet to 
find an answer to is this:

How do you produce curly quotes (a.ka. typographical quotation marks) 
in Linux?

In Windoze and the Mac there are well-known keyboard combinations 
that will produce them, something like ALT-0(###) in the former and 
Option-key1-key2 in the Mac.

Abiword and IIRC KWord have smart quotes options, but in Linux you 
get just plain old inch marks. Having gotten my computer to work like 
a fax machine (via efax), my next step in my Linux adventure is to 
turn it into a DTP workstation.

Re: CVS environment constants

[Joost Kooij]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 02:53:43PM -0700, MRZ wrote:
> Hello again.

Your mail software is broken, it does not break lines at +/- position 70.
Please fix it or use another program that you can fix.  It is cumbersome
to read and reply to.

> Just wondering if there is a standard way to store the cvs constants
> (e.g. CVS_RSH) such that terminals automagically "see" them when
> opened. I'm using one of three terms with eterm as my favorite, so the
> solution would hopefully be a one-step which would be used by all (the
> terminal that it).

These are called environment variables (not quite the same as shell
variables but similar).  Put environment variable assignments in your
~/.bash_profile and make sure that you source that file in turn in
~/.xsession.

If all is well (you will have to restart your whole X session) then every
program you start from within a login shell or your X session (including
window manager menus) will have these variables set in its environment.

> Of course I'm always open to someone directing me to the correct spot
> in the man pages, but I find the cvs man a little confusing since I'm
> not quite familiar with it yet..

Here's from the cvs(1) manpage:

CVS STARTUP FILE
   Normally,  when  CVS  starts  up, it reads the .cvsrc file
   from the home directory of  the  user  reading  it.   This
   startup procedure can be turned off with the -f flag.

   The  .cvsrc  file  lists CVS commands with a list of argu?
   ments, one command per line.  For example,  the  following
   line in .cvsrc:

   diff -c

   will  mean  that  the  `cvs  diff'  command will always be
   passed the -c option in addition to any other options that
   are  specified  in  the command line (in this case it will
   have the effect of producing context sensitive  diffs  for
   all executions of `cvs diff' ).

Cheers,


Joost

Re: Logging Init output?

[Joost Kooij]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 10:52:03PM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote:
> I was actually being ironic when I mentioned my 'scant' knowledge. At

That's okay, because there are many subscribers to debian-user and some
of them appreciate an answer that does more than reply to strictly the
question asked.  That way, just by reading posts by others, I learnt a
lot myself and I enjoyed it.  When I post, people can correct me if I'm 
wrong about something, which is good because people tend to be a lot more
forgiving than computers.

> least I am happy to report that I know how init works, but I am still a
> little wary of fooling with shell scripting of any sort. Funny thing is
> that I *do* understand moderately complex Perl a lot better. Am I weird or
> not?

Yes, definately.  Just go and bash ahead at those shell scripts.  What can 
go really wrong here?  Just don't do it on your company's database server.
Wait, did you mention "weird"? ;-)

Don't be afraid to fool with the scripts in /etc/init.d.  It's a feature
of the os.  Notice that these files are all interpreted scripts, not a
single one is a precompiled binary.  If the init system were compiled
c code, then that would make booting a lot faster.  The one good reason
why they are shell scripts still, is exactly so that you can hack them.
Even when the system is otherwise totally broken.  As long as /bin/sh,
/bin/awk and some friends work, you can fix things (note you don't really
need an editor even).

I think I learnt a lot about shell scripting from precisely this, 
futzing with initscripts and maintainer scripts and some of my own
little creatures.  

Cheers,


Joost

IP Maquerading: no connection to external network

[Brendon]

Hello debian users,

I've just set up a machine for ip masquerading which will allow all the other 
machines connected to it access the net, 'least.. theoretically.

the current setup:

Gateway: external ip 195.38.200.201 internal ip 192.162.0.1
Laptop: internal ip 192.162.0.2
desktop:..

the gateway is able to access the net and the laptop.
the laptop is able to ping the gateway on both it's external and internal ip 
but cannot access (ping) external sites by either their ip or name.

I've been using the Maquerading HOWTO and have done everything mentioned, 
without luck. 

Any ideas what could be going wrong?

RE:CVS environment constants

[Andrew Agno]

 > Just wondering if there is a standard way to store the cvs
 > constants (e.g. CVS_RSH) such that terminals automagically "see"
 > them when opened. I'm using one of three terms with eterm as my
 > favorite, so the solution would hopefully be a one-step which would
 > be used by all (the terminal that it).

Perhaps I'm not understanding what you want, but why don't you use
environment variables in your .bashrc (or whatever config file you use 
for your shell)?

Andrew.

CVS environment constants

[MRZ]

Hello again.
Just wondering if there is a standard way to store the cvs constants (e.g. 
CVS_RSH) such that terminals automagically "see" them when opened. I'm using 
one of three terms with eterm as my favorite, so the solution would hopefully 
be a one-step which would be used by all (the terminal that it).

Of course I'm always open to someone directing me to the correct spot in the 
man pages, but I find the cvs man a little confusing since I'm not quite 
familiar with it yet..

Thanks in advance..
Marc.

exim mutt ?

[Robin Gerard]

Hello,
Y had to reinstall my potato 2.2r2 
(I had tried to compile kernel 2.4.5 )
and there is a change : (exim & mutt)

before : (complite failure...)
if user1 send a msg (local) to user2 i.e. :
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to :[EMAIL PROTECTED] (or localhost)
the msg goes directly in /var/spool/mail/user2.

after:
the msg goes in /var/spool/exim/input  and
goes to my provider and come back with error,
because [EMAIL PROTECTED] is unknown for my provider.
J don't know how to put things back in order.

Thanks in advance for advices.
-- 
Gerard

Re: Gnome - How to install?

[Nick Jennings]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 05:56:37PM -0400, Wayne wrote:
> Hi.
> First let me make an apology to Nick for clicking my send button to soon.
> Well, I don't have an  .xinitrc file. So I looked at the man page for 
> "startx".

Hi Wayne, 

  If you create a new .xinitrc file, (containing the line: gnome-session),
 it will be looked at first.

> Apparently I'm using the file (xinitrc) in /etc/X11/init. I could see no
> referrence to wmaker in this file. So I tried this "startx gnome-session".
> Sure enough it started gnome. It doesn't look good, but it started.
> I got out of this session ok, but I now have xdm running. Could someone
> tell me how to stop xdm from starting?

  To stop xdm from starting at bootup, you can either remove it from your
 system:

# apt-get remove xdm

  Or, if you want to leave it installed but don't want it to start up by
 default, try this:

# update-rc.d -f xdm remove

  This will stop xdm from loading in all runlevels.

-- 
  Nick Jennings

System Backup to CD

[Thomas H. George]

Though I kept good notes, it took much effort to restore my current 
debian linux system with all the apt-get's and other downloads after a 
hard disk crash wiped out everything.  With Windows I always had to be 
prepared for system crashes and regularly used DriveImage to copy my 
complete C-drive with boot sector and my complete D-drive (all my data 
files) to CD's.  In the early versions it was necessary to copy these 
drives to .pqi files on other hard drives and then use CDWriter to copy 
the .pqi files to CD's.  The last version of DriveImage that I purchased 
could write directly to CD's.  Either way, when Windows crashed - as it 
often did - I had only to boot to the DriveImage DOS disks and restore 
the C and D drives from the CD's.  It didn't take more than 20 minutes 
to get up and running again.


Linux doesn't crash - at least mine hasn't in spite of all the times I 
have rebuilt the kernel - but there is a big investment in time and 
effort getting to where I am today.  I believe Drive Image now 
understands the linux file structure so I could boot to DOS and make 
copies of my linux system.


Still, Debian Linux is so elegant there is very likely a better way.  If 
so, I haven't found it yet.  If I have missed something obvious, please 
point me in the right direction.

Re: Gnome - How to install?

[Wayne]

Hi.
First let me make an apology to Nick for clicking my send button to soon.
Well, I don't have an  .xinitrc file. So I looked at the man page for "startx".
Apparently I'm using the file (xinitrc) in /etc/X11/init. I could see no
referrence to wmaker in this file. So I tried this "startx gnome-session".
Sure enough it started gnome. It doesn't look good, but it started.
I got out of this session ok, but I now have xdm running. Could someone
tell me how to stop xdm from starting?
Wayne
P.S. I'm going to try building my own .xinirc file.

Nick Jennings wrote:

> edit your .xinitrc (in your home directory)
> there should be one line containing wmaker or something like that, replace
> it with:
>
> gnome-session
>
> then try running X again
>
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:16:57PM -0400, Wayne wrote:
> > Hi  again,
> > When I installed Debian from the CD I got with
> > the book I purchase, I selected to install all the
> > GNOME stuff on the CD. When I  "startx" I get
> > WMAKER. I would like to have GNOME start.
> > The book doesn't explain how to change
> > this. Could some kind soul point me to some documentation?
> > Wayne.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
>
> --
>   Nick Jennings

Re: 3dfx voodoo2

[Jayson Henkel]

On 21 Jun 2001 16:48:10 -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
> pReJkEr wrote:
> > 
> > Ello
> > 
> >   is there a package for 3dfx card in debian?
> >   i've downloaded device3dfx-source but it doesn't create /dev/3dfx
> 
>   you only need it for older X servers (version 3.X). it creates a
> kernel module. the actual file /dev/3dfx you might need to create
> yourself, there should be proper mknode command somewhere in
> device3dfx-source documentation.
> 
>   for X 4.x you don't need 3dfx device. You need to compile tdfx (3dfx)
> support into kernel though (ad use DRI in X), see:
> 
Does DRI support the voodoo2 ? Those articles are kind of confusing as
to whether they support the voodoo2 or just the banshee Is the
author refering to both when he says a voodoo2 banshee or just the
banshee which I know is supported by DRI. I expect that the banshee used
some of the original voodoo2 technology and might be refered to by some
as the voodoo2 banshee. I also would like to setup DRI support if
possible to play some of the GL stuff full screen.

-=Jayson=-

> http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=163
> http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=96
> http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=36
> 
>   erik
> 
> 
> -- 
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> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

tracking down the cause of an entry in syslog?

[Paul Wright]

Hi all,

I've been getting an irritating recurring syslog entry that I'd like to 
track down and stifle, but I'm at a loss as to discover what process is 
causing the entry.

The entry is (from logcheck output) this:

Jun 22 16:02:02 ICMP message type destination unreachable - bad port from 
127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1->127.0.0.1)
Jun 22 16:12:37 ICMP message type destination unreachable - bad port from 
127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1->127.0.0.1)
Jun 22 16:12:38 ICMP message type destination unreachable - bad port from 
127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1->127.0.0.1)

sorry about the no wrap on the quote.

There are no other events being logged at identical times, or at similar 
times with identical frequencies in any of my logs.

Does anyone have advice on how to track down the cause?

How can I log (or discover) which port is being sought?

Is there any way to do this without un-installing individual packages 
until the entry ceases to be made?

If methodically un-installining packages is the only or most logical 
method of tracking this, then does anyone have a good guess at where to 
start?

What docs will help me to figure this one out?  (I've RTFM, but may have 
looked in the wrong place.)

Thanks in advance.

--ptw


-- 
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-currently seeking employment-

Re: shared modem

[Nathan E Norman]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 08:01:59PM +0100, Wasim Ahmed wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:43:18AM -0700, Andrew Agno wrote:
> > Wasim Ahmed writes:
> >  > Probably the only useful thing that currently cannot be replicated on
> >  > a Linux server on Windows NT Small Business Server appears to be
> >  > shared modems.
> > 
> > Well, no.  You can use IP masquerade--it works just fine with modems.
> > You can also set things up so that it dials on demand.
> 
> Oh.  I forgot to explain what I meant.  When I mean "shared modem" I
> don't mean "shared internet connection", but rather a "shared modem".
> That is, the ability to use a standard modem on COM2 of the server as
> a modem from a virtual COM3 of the windows client.

$ dpkg -p mserver
Package: mserver
Priority: extra
Section: comm
Installed-Size: 124
Maintainer: Debian QA Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 0.23a-2
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.2-2)
Filename: pool/main/m/mserver/mserver_0.23a-2_i386.deb
Size: 16428
MD5sum: 397db73546f88a795cb5a042a10e5348
Description: Network Modem Server
 The mserver program is a network modem server which allows modems to be
 exported to any number of hosts on the (local) internet.  Access control for
 each individually exported modem is performed on a per-host basis.
 .
 Windows 95 shareware client available.  Work on a Mac version in progress.

Cheers,

-- 
Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better
Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |   -- Patton


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Re: Exim and *outgoing* AUTH?

[Phil Brutsche]

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A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> So, what you're telling me, it seems, is that I'm out of luck because
> Telocity says "AUTH=LOGIN" where a sensible system would say "AUTH
> LOGIN".

Correct.

> It seems like that could be hacked in code (he says innocently);

Someone at one point wrote some patches for exim to be able to understand
AUTH=LOGIN; I'll see if I can dig them out :)

> any way of simply forcing exim to use LOGIN authentication, regardless
> of what it finds from EHLO?

Not that I'm aware of.

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Re: Exim and *outgoing* AUTH?

[Andrew J. Perrin]

So, what you're telling me, it seems, is that I'm out of luck because
Telocity says "AUTH=LOGIN" where a sensible system would say "AUTH
LOGIN". It seems like that could be hacked in code (he says
innocently); any way of simply forcing exim to use LOGIN
authentication, regardless of what it finds from EHLO?

-
   Andrew J. Perrin - Assistant Professor of Sociology
University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
269 Hamilton Hall CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin

On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Phil Brutsche wrote:

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:
:A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...
:
:> Greetings-
:>
:> Telocity, in its infinite wisdom, has decided to use SMTP AUTH instead of
:> originating IP to verify SMTP clients. This presents problems for me,
:> since I have exim pointing at smtp.telocity.com. Furthermore, it doesn't
:> reject messages outright (that would be too simple and
:> standards-based).  Instead, it just accepts them and silently eats them,
:> so I didn't know until I innocently asked my father-in-law if he'd
:> received a message I sent him. Arrgh.  Anyway
:>
:> Is there a way to configure exim (running in smarthost mode) to use SMTP
:> AUTH for outgoing mail? I'm currently running:
:
:Yes.
:
:The authentication rules are defined in the very last section of the file,
:after the rewrite configuration.  AUTH PLAIN (what Netscape and most
:non-MS email clients use to authenticate) would look something like this:
:
:telocity:
:  driver = plaintext
:  public_name = PLAIN
:  client_send = ^username^password
:
:AUTH LOGIN (what Outlook & OE use, as well as a few others) would look
:something like this:
:
:telocity:
:  driver = plaintext
:  public_name = LOGIN
:  client_send = : username : password
:
:Afterwards, you would put
:
:   authenticate_hosts = 64.98.119.186
:
:in the remote_smtp transport.
:
:However, this assumes that the Telocity SMTP server (smtp.telocity.com) is
:standards compliant... which they aren't.
:
:Telneting to port 25 on smtp.telocity.com:
:
:$ telnet smtp.telocity.com smtp
:Trying 64.98.119.186...
:Connected to dsl.telocity.com.criticalpath.net.
:Escape character is '^]'.
:220 smtp.telocity.com ESMTP CPMTA-3_5_0_4 - NO UCE
:ehlo kaitain.obix.com
:250-smtp.telocity.com Hi.
:250-PIPELINING
:250-AUTH=LOGIN
:250 8BITMIME
:quit
:221 smtp.telocity.com closing connection
:
:See the AUTH=LOGIN in the response to my EHLO?  The equal sign should be a
:space.  That's a Microsoft-ism.  Very few transport agents and user agents
:support AUTH=LOGIN; the ones that do have .
:These include:
:
:Most "corporate messaging" systems
:Various MS *Windows* email clients (the Mac email clients are written by a
:   different group within MS and are much better than the Windows
:   equivalents IMO)
:One of the qmail SMTP AUTH patches
:Whatever the hell Telocity uses
:
:One solution would be to ask a kind soul to relay for you based on SMTP
:AUTH.
:
:> 
:> Why can't a single reasonably-priced DSL service seem go get it
:> right? There are perfectly good internet standards for dealing with
:> these sorts of things, and they feel they have to reinvent the wheel --
:> and make it square to boot!
:> 
:
:
:That would require intelligence among the decision-makers at Telocity.
:If they're like alot of other corporations, they are (pardon my language)
:clueless twits who don't know squat about what they're doing.  These folks
:are also the reason why most defaced web sites are Windows... and the
:security whole isn't in Windows.
:
:
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Re: Shutdown -h now

[stevencooper]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:04:49PM -0400, Andrew Overholt decreed:
> On 21 Jun 2001, W. Paul Mills wrote:
> 
> > > What Steve Cooper mentioned works.  Compile APM support into
> > > you're kernel.  The apm=on in lilo.conf isn't needed... or
> > > at least not here.  I compiled the proper ATM support into
> > > my kernel and now when I do a shutdown -h now, it works.
> 
> I have APM compiled into my kernel (2.4.2 - did it last night) and have
> the append line in lilo.conf (which follows).  Any other suggestions?
> 

If you look at your .config file in the kernel source root directory
there are a few options related to APM.  Edit that file and look for
CONFIG_APM.  You may need to enable one or more of those additional
options, e.g. check out CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF.  It may also
be a peculiarity of your BIOS.  See if there's an available BIOS
upgrade for your motherboard.

If you still have a problem I can check my settings tonight when I'm
at my Debian machine.

Cheers,
Steve

-- 

  \_O<  \_O<  \_O<
~~~
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Re: Exim and *outgoing* AUTH?

[Phil Brutsche]

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A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said...

> Greetings-
>
> Telocity, in its infinite wisdom, has decided to use SMTP AUTH instead of
> originating IP to verify SMTP clients. This presents problems for me,
> since I have exim pointing at smtp.telocity.com. Furthermore, it doesn't
> reject messages outright (that would be too simple and
> standards-based).  Instead, it just accepts them and silently eats them,
> so I didn't know until I innocently asked my father-in-law if he'd
> received a message I sent him. Arrgh.  Anyway
>
> Is there a way to configure exim (running in smarthost mode) to use SMTP
> AUTH for outgoing mail? I'm currently running:

Yes.

The authentication rules are defined in the very last section of the file,
after the rewrite configuration.  AUTH PLAIN (what Netscape and most
non-MS email clients use to authenticate) would look something like this:

telocity:
  driver = plaintext
  public_name = PLAIN
  client_send = ^username^password

AUTH LOGIN (what Outlook & OE use, as well as a few others) would look
something like this:

telocity:
  driver = plaintext
  public_name = LOGIN
  client_send = : username : password

Afterwards, you would put

   authenticate_hosts = 64.98.119.186

in the remote_smtp transport.

However, this assumes that the Telocity SMTP server (smtp.telocity.com) is
standards compliant... which they aren't.

Telneting to port 25 on smtp.telocity.com:

$ telnet smtp.telocity.com smtp
Trying 64.98.119.186...
Connected to dsl.telocity.com.criticalpath.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 smtp.telocity.com ESMTP CPMTA-3_5_0_4 - NO UCE
ehlo kaitain.obix.com
250-smtp.telocity.com Hi.
250-PIPELINING
250-AUTH=LOGIN
250 8BITMIME
quit
221 smtp.telocity.com closing connection

See the AUTH=LOGIN in the response to my EHLO?  The equal sign should be a
space.  That's a Microsoft-ism.  Very few transport agents and user agents
support AUTH=LOGIN; the ones that do have .
These include:

Most "corporate messaging" systems
Various MS *Windows* email clients (the Mac email clients are written by a
   different group within MS and are much better than the Windows
   equivalents IMO)
One of the qmail SMTP AUTH patches
Whatever the hell Telocity uses

One solution would be to ask a kind soul to relay for you based on SMTP
AUTH.

> 
> Why can't a single reasonably-priced DSL service seem go get it
> right? There are perfectly good internet standards for dealing with
> these sorts of things, and they feel they have to reinvent the wheel --
> and make it square to boot!
> 


That would require intelligence among the decision-makers at Telocity.
If they're like alot of other corporations, they are (pardon my language)
clueless twits who don't know squat about what they're doing.  These folks
are also the reason why most defaced web sites are Windows... and the
security whole isn't in Windows.


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Re: problem

[Joost Kooij]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 03:29:21PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I installed debial 2.1 and i forgot the root password.
> Can you tell me please how i can change the root password ?

If it is still running, switch to the text console (leftalt-f1) and
press ctrl-alt-del.  If it is off, turn it on.

Whe lilo comes up (it prints "lilo:" on your screen), press the left or
right shift key (sorry I forget - I just press both). :-)

Now press the tab key to see a list of bootimage names.  One is probably
named "Linux", let us assume so.

Type to the lilo prompt:  Linux init=/bin/bash

It will now boot and give you a shell when ready.

Now type:

  mount -n -o remount,rw /
  
  mount /usr

and open /etc/shadow with your favorite editor, like eg.:

  vim /etc/shadow

On the (probably first) line that starts with "root:" remove all the
characters between the first and second ':' characters.  Do not put in
any replacement, just leave it empty.  Save the file and exit.

  umount /usr

  mount -o remount,ro /

  sync

  sync
  
  reboot

Next time it comes up, you can login as root with empty password (just
hit enter).

Cheers,


Joost

Re: Logging Init output?

[Mart van de Wege]

On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:35:51 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joost Kooij) wrote:


Thanks Joost.
I was actually being ironic when I mentioned my 'scant' knowledge. At
least I am happy to report that I know how init works, but I am still a
little wary of fooling with shell scripting of any sort. Funny thing is
that I *do* understand moderately complex Perl a lot better. Am I weird or
not?
Thanks again,

Mart

Re: cvs/networking/aaaargh!

[Dave Sherohman]

On Wed, Jun 20, 2001 at 11:44:57AM -0700, Glen S Mehn wrote:
> ok, this is a wierd wierd wierd problem:

And this isn't a very timely response, but it may be useful anyhow.

> I ahve a cvs server. I use pserver auth for it.
> 
> every now and then, connections from the cvs server hang, and they seem to
> tear down my networking.

> usually after ~15 minutes, everything works fine. But sometimes it doesn't.
> 
> wierd thing: if I logon to the box @ the console, tehn ssh out from it ti
> seems to make the networking all happy. Also, connections to 'localhost'
> work just fine even when other connections fail (from another host).

This sounds vaguely familiar...  Based on my previous experience, I'd say
your problem has nothing to do with CVS.  It's your network card's driver.
Update it or get a new NIC.  (I had very similar problems with a 3Com
3c905 Boomerang a while back.  Replaced it with an EtherExpress Pro and
haven't had so much as a hiccup since.)

-- 
That's not gibberish...  It's Linux. - Byers, The Lone Gunmen
Geek Code 3.12:  GCS d? s+: a C++ UL$ P++>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+
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Re: changing hostname

[Joost Kooij]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 12:48:17PM -0700, der.hans wrote:
> I found /etc/exim/exim.conf, /etc/apache/conf/httpd.conf,
> etc/ppp/options.ttyXX and the ssh host key files. I've left the ssh keys
> alone, but the rest was easy to change.

IIRC it worked just fine when I changed the hostname part of ssh system
keys some time ago.

AFAIK the text appended to the ssh key in the identity file is just
comment.  In the authorized_keys file, the text space is used to add
constraints or options to that key.

Cheers,


Joost

Re: changing hostname

[D-Man]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 01:53:23PM +0200, Joost Kooij wrote:
| On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 10:31:51AM +0200, Adri wrote:
| > I changed my /etc/hostname from debianAdriano to Adriano
| > 
| > That's because I'd like to bring my debian under the Windows domain of the 
| > company.

[snip lots of fun to read colorful descriptions of how to use linux in
a windows environment]

| > But now I wonder what other files still refer to the old name? What 
| > consequences I'm gonna run into?
| 
| Most things will survive quite well.  The mail system may be a little
| tricky though, mail loops are evil so you should definately make sure
| that that is consistent.  With exim it is easy, run eximconfig again,
| just like you did already.
| 
| "grep -r $oldname /etc" is your friend.  That is what I've done a few
| times in the past and it works quite well.  Vi a bit here and there and
| maybe restart a daemon.  "cat $newname > /proc/sys/kernel/hostname" and
| you need not even reboot AFAIK.

I've changed my hostname a few times (indecisiveness) and had a little
trouble, but not too much.  I used hostname(1) to set the new name in
the currently running kernel.  I found out, through trial and error,
that it isn't persistant through a reboot.  So I used hostname(1) and
vi to change /etc/hostname.  (I also updated /etc/hosts for
convenience)  The problem then was I couldn't reboot -- init would
hang when starting sysklogd.  The solution I found to work was to
disable the daemon(s) (using the install cd to boot to a root shell
and mount the hard drive) causing trouble and then boot.  Once a boot
is successful (btw, you'll get some funny "error" messages if sysklogd
isn't running) re-enable the daemons and reboot.  Then all is well.

I wasn't actually using exim, so it is probably still messed up, but
I'm still not actually using it so it doesn't matter in my case.

-D

Re: How to enable remote X-logins ?

[Vineet Kumar]

* Vineet Kumar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010622 13:16]:
> change it to something like this:
> 
> [servers]
> 0=/usr/bin/X11/X vt7 -deferglyphs 16 -nolisten tcp -dpi 100
> # this second line starts up :1 on vt8 connected to my.friends.machine
> # 1=/usr/bin/X11/X vt8 -deferglyphs 16 -query my.friends.machine

Of course, I really meant this:
[servers]
0=/usr/bin/X11/X vt7 -deferglyphs 16 -nolisten tcp -dpi 100
# this second line starts up :1 on vt8 connected to my.friends.machine
1=/usr/bin/X11/X vt8 -deferglyphs 16 -query my.friends.machine

(uncomment the line, or it won't do a thing).

Vineet


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Re: [users] Re: kernel compiles

[Joost Kooij]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 08:44:51PM +0200, Robert Waldner wrote:
> now do a `make clean` (just to get rid of the modules, mostly) and 
   
 make-kpkg clean

>  re-do steps 1-3 for the second machine and the third and...

It will complain if you use machines' hostnames in the version string of
the debs and forget to make-kpkg clean between machine builds.  The point
is to clean up the debian/ package build directory that kernel-package
has set up in the linux kernel source tree.  It contains generated files
and the way the kernel-package works, a lot of it is Makefile trickery,
these files are probably not remade when they are already present.

Cheers,


Joost

Exim and *outgoing* AUTH?

[Andrew J. Perrin]

Greetings-

Telocity, in its infinite wisdom, has decided to use SMTP AUTH instead of
originating IP to verify SMTP clients. This presents problems for me,
since I have exim pointing at smtp.telocity.com. Furthermore, it doesn't
reject messages outright (that would be too simple and
standards-based).  Instead, it just accepts them and silently eats them,
so I didn't know until I innocently asked my father-in-law if he'd
received a message I sent him. Arrgh.  Anyway

Is there a way to configure exim (running in smarthost mode) to use SMTP
AUTH for outgoing mail? I'm currently running:

nujoma:/var/log/exim# exim -bV
Exim version 3.12 #1 built 08-Jun-2001 14:21:07
Copyright (c) University of Cambridge 1999

but would be perfectly happy to run a different version if
necessary. Everything can be authenticated using my Telocity ID,
regardless of what local user it's coming from.


Why can't a single reasonably-priced DSL service seem go get it
right? There are perfectly good internet standards for dealing with these
sorts of things, and they feel they have to reinvent the wheel -- and
make it square to boot!


-
   Andrew J. Perrin - Assistant Professor of Sociology
University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
269 Hamilton Hall CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin

Re: hard lock!

[Vineet Kumar]

* Mario Olimpio de Menezes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010621 11:24]:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> 
> > I have the same setup and have, in the past, experienced similar
> > display lockups. (Note: Are you sure the keyboard and mouse stop
> > working? Maybe just the display is locking up so it feels like they're
> 
> well, the kb doesn't answer to Crtl+Alt+Backspace, that should kill X.

Sure, but maybe the video isn't redisplaying at all. If it is a bug
with the nvidia driver, something like that could happen. Worse still,
it probably could cause the machine to freeze entirely. One of the
easier ways of figuring out which is happening is to test the
machine's life via the network (i.e. ping it, ssh to it).

I'll admit there are a number of bad sites on the web these days, but
any time viewing a web page crashes something on your end, you know
something's wrong. A web browser that crashes when viewing certain
sites is buggy, and a video driver that crashes when attempting
certain displays (most likely a gl thing) is buggy too (or rather, not
robust at best). These programs should be written so that no form of
bad input can disrupt their normal operations; they should happily
reject it and continue merrily along.

I'll try to check out the same site later on (not right now; I'd hate
it if it were to crash while I have real processes crunching in the
background!) and let you know if I can duplicate it.

Vineet

> 
> I believe there's something with the BxBoards website; I'm using
> netscape now for +1h, went to several sites without problem;
> 
> the Bxboards url is: http://www.bxboards.com
> 
> when I tried the Motherboard section on the right of the page,
> inside a rectangle, boom! Maybe there is something related with java
> or some other plugin because konqueror crashed exactly at the same
> point.
> 
> thanks for you answer!
> 
> []s, Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's
> heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that
> prevails" http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
> 


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Re: How to enable remote X-logins ?

[Vineet Kumar]

I'm no expert on such things, but as I understand it, enabling xdmcp
on your machine tells gdm to allow remote hosts to log into your
machine through xdmcp, not the other way around. I don't know if gdm
will show a menu option to log into remote hosts without some manual
menu tweaking, but you can do something like

/usr/bin/X11/X -query 

to connect to the remote host without gdm, or specify that in your
gdm.conf if you always want to open a connection to a different host.
One thing you could do, if you have your machine and your friend's
machine which you often log into: set gdm up to have 2 X displays
running: one on :0 which is a "normal" into your machine and one on :1
whose server is specified as /usr/bin/X11/X -query my.friends.machine

like this: near the bottom of your /etc/gdm/gdm.conf you should see a
[servers] section something like this:

[servers]
0=/usr/bin/X11/X vt7 -deferglyphs 16 -nolisten tcp -dpi 100
# this second line starts up :1 on vt8
# 1=/usr/bin/X11/X vt8 -deferglyphs 16

change it to something like this:

[servers]
0=/usr/bin/X11/X vt7 -deferglyphs 16 -nolisten tcp -dpi 100
# this second line starts up :1 on vt8 connected to my.friends.machine
# 1=/usr/bin/X11/X vt8 -deferglyphs 16 -query my.friends.machine

Then you'll have your own local gdm on vt7 and an xdmcp connection to
your friend on vt8.

Note that I don't endorse this kind of thing in any fashion, unless
you're on a trusted private network. Use ssh instead. If you really do
want to be able to log into another machine through xdmcp (because it
is kinda neat), tunnel it through ssh. I don't think the performance
hit is worth it, though; I find it much nicer to just run X locally
and tunnel certain applications through ssh as necessary; I have
buttons on my gnome panel to pop up a terminal or gkrellm from another
host (so long as my agent is running and my key is loaded).

Vineet

* Joerg Johannes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010620 13:08]:
> Hi List
> 
> I'm using gdm as display manager. What I am missing is the option "Login
> to remote host", as I have on Sun workstations at university. I looked
> into the gdm docs, and I found out that I have to set
> ..
> [xdmcp]
> Enable=1
> ..
> 
> I left the other values on default, and hoped to find the remote login
> Button or menu on hte (restarted) gdm screen, but no. Still only login
> to localhost possible.
> 
> Any idea?
> 
> -- 
> Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you 
> will hear the voice of Satan?
> 
> That's nothing!  If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
> 
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Re: Gnome - How to install?

[Nick Jennings]

edit your .xinitrc (in your home directory)
there should be one line containing wmaker or something like that, replace
it with:

gnome-session

then try running X again

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 04:16:57PM -0400, Wayne wrote:
> Hi  again,
> When I installed Debian from the CD I got with
> the book I purchase, I selected to install all the
> GNOME stuff on the CD. When I  "startx" I get
> WMAKER. I would like to have GNOME start.
> The book doesn't explain how to change
> this. Could some kind soul point me to some documentation?
> Wayne.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Shutdown -h now

[Andrew Overholt]

On 21 Jun 2001, W. Paul Mills wrote:

> > What Steve Cooper mentioned works.  Compile APM support into
> > you're kernel.  The apm=on in lilo.conf isn't needed... or
> > at least not here.  I compiled the proper ATM support into
> > my kernel and now when I do a shutdown -h now, it works.

I have APM compiled into my kernel (2.4.2 - did it last night) and have
the append line in lilo.conf (which follows).  Any other suggestions?

Andrew

lilo.conf:
=(comments removed)=
lba32
boot=/dev/hda

root=/dev/hdb3
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
delay=20
 message=/boot/bootmess.txt
prompt
timeout=50
vga=normal 
append="apm=on mem=224M"
default=l

image=/vmlinuz
label=l
read-only
image=/vmlinuz-mostrecent
label=old
read-only
 other=/dev/hda1
label=w


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EngSci 0T3 
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ERTW

Re: Ati All-In-Wonder 128 Pro not working with unstable

[Bart Szyszka]

runs great on my potato box with xfree 4.0.2 using the "r128" driver

Do you have the video out cable plugged in? If it's plugged in, I can't

start X, but if I unplug it then X works perfectly. Pretty sure I'm using

4.0.3 with r128 driver.


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Re: problem

[David L. Craig]

> Boot from your rescue floppy, mount your / partition as
> /mnt, and change root's password to * (no password).

That is, vi /mnt/etc/passwd (or /etc/shadow if it exists)
and modify the root line's password field.

Then umount /mnt and reboot.  root can login w/o a
password prompt.  Then use passwd to set a new one.

Re: installing KDE

[Jonathan Daugherty]

Thank you to all who started and responded to this chain.  Thanks to you folks, 
I now have the long-lost kde 1.1.2 on my system.  I love this desktop manager, 
and
kde.org is really bad about shunning their older versions and showcasing their 
new ones.  Now I have the source line to get the old kde, and I've been trying 
to
find the old kde packages for a really long time.

Thanks again.

-- 

Jonathan Daugherty
Dept. of Computer Science / UCNS Workstation Support Group
The University of Georgia

/^.{10}\ +\d+\ +(\d+|\w+)\ +(\d+|\w+)\ +(\d+(\.\d+|)(M|k|G|)).*/ - master ls!

Gnome - How to install?

[Wayne]

Hi  again,
When I installed Debian from the CD I got with
the book I purchase, I selected to install all the
GNOME stuff on the CD. When I  "startx" I get
WMAKER. I would like to have GNOME start.
The book doesn't explain how to change
this. Could some kind soul point me to some documentation?
Wayne.

Re: problem

[David L. Craig]

> I installed debial 2.1 and i forgot the root password.
> Can you tell me please how i can change the root password ?

Boot from your rescue floppy, mount your / partition as
/mnt, and change root's password to * (no password).

Re: open ports with iptables

[Vineet Kumar]

Under the netfilter model, this is known as DNAT (Destination NAT,
because it is the destination field of incoming packets that is being
rewritten).

you'll want something like the following:

iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d $extip -p tcp --dport 135 -j DNAT 
--to-destination 192.168.1.1

(also see http://netfilter.samba.org/unreliable-guides/NAT-HOWTO/ for
more info).

hth,
Vineet

* Sebastiaan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010622 12:29]:
> > > > doing a search for -dport or -sport for source and destination ports
> > > >
> > > thank you for your reply, but I am not getting much wiser with this
> > > document. I learn by examples. I was thinking about this:
> > > iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -d 212.127.10.10 -dport 135 -j ACCEPT
> > > iptables -A OUTPUT -i eth1 -s 192.168.1.1 -sport 135 -j ACCEPT
> > 
> > internal ip address on the world side of your firewall box - either thats
> > wrong or you must have a router doing nat  before any packets will
> > arrive?
> > 
> Hello,
> 
> Simply said I want to do this with iptables:
> ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L $extip 135 -R 192.168.1.1 135
> 
> so that tcp traffic from port 135 is directly forwarded to port 135 on my
> local machine and vice versa.
> 
> Sorry if I was unclear.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Sebastiaan
> 
> 
> 
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Re: changing hostname

[der.hans]

Am 22. Jun, 2001 schwäzte Adri so:

> Well, I saw the exim.conf file and there were some referrings to the old 
> host name (debianAdriano) so I run eximconfig again.
> 
> But now I wonder what other files still refer to the old name? What 
> consequences I'm gonna run into?

I changed my hostname recently and found the following 3 files in /etc:

/etc/hostname
/etc/hosts
/etc/mailname

The first should be changed when using hostname to set a new hostname. The
second should have the localhost line modified as well.

Maybe there should be a trigger for those services that require knowing the
hostname.

I found /etc/exim/exim.conf, /etc/apache/conf/httpd.conf,
etc/ppp/options.ttyXX and the ssh host key files. I've left the ssh keys
alone, but the rest was easy to change.

ciao,

der.hans
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Re: problem

[Sebastiaan]

On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,
> Dear Sir:
> 
> I installed debial 2.1 and i forgot the root password.
> Can you tell me please how i can change the root password ?
> 
There are several ways. The simplest is to make a rescue floppy (or boot
with the installation disk), mount your root, edit etc/passwd (on your
root system) and delete the 'x' on the root line:
root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
to
root::0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash

As far as I know you can boot up your system as usual, login as root (but
you do not have to give the password), run passwd and enter your password.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan

problem

[Comserver]

Dear Sir:

I installed debial 2.1 and i forgot the root password.
Can you tell me please how i can change the root password ?

Thank you,
Ray Gonzalez

RE: open ports with iptables

[Sebastiaan]

> > > doing a search for -dport or -sport for source and destination ports
> > >
> > thank you for your reply, but I am not getting much wiser with this
> > document. I learn by examples. I was thinking about this:
> > iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -d 212.127.10.10 -dport 135 -j ACCEPT
> > iptables -A OUTPUT -i eth1 -s 192.168.1.1 -sport 135 -j ACCEPT
> 
> internal ip address on the world side of your firewall box - either thats
> wrong or you must have a router doing nat  before any packets will
> arrive?
> 
Hello,

Simply said I want to do this with iptables:
ipmasqadm portfw -a -P tcp -L $extip 135 -R 192.168.1.1 135

so that tcp traffic from port 135 is directly forwarded to port 135 on my
local machine and vice versa.

Sorry if I was unclear.

Thanks in advance,
Sebastiaan

Re: Tmpfs questions

[Stefan Srdic]

Herbert Xu wrote:

> Stefan Srdic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > 2. Is it recomended to mount /tmp as a Tmpfs by using the following in
> > fstab:
>
> > tmpfs/tmptmpfsdefaults00
>
> Replace defaults with size= where  is some sane limit based
> on the amount of swap and RAM you have.

Thanks, I could'nt find any relative information for tmpfs on the web or in the
manual pages.

I reduced my tmpfs to 128MB with the size option. I had to add a k at the end of
my interger to specify a value in kilobytes.

Just another question, would it be more efficient to use a ramfs instead of a
tmpfs to mount /tmp onto?

Stef

Re: [users] Re: kernel compiles

[Bob Nielsen]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 08:17:14PM +0200, MaD dUCK wrote:
> also sprach Bob Nielsen (on Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:42:23AM -0700):
> > True, but you can/should configure and compile separately for each
> > destination architecture, optimizing appropriately.
> 
> so yes, the argument that my athlon (thunderbird actually) will
> outperform the others still holds. but i'd need to keep separate
> source trees if i didn't want to make clean every single time - which
> i usually don't since i experiment a whole lot and therefore change
> the kernel - which doesn't take long thanks to make unless i make
> cleaned it...

I tend to make clean every time, since I caused myself some problems in
the past by omitting that step.

Of course, time is relative.  Compile time on an athlon compared to
that on a 486 (well, you know)

Bob

Re: attaining IO port info for an ISA networkcard

[Duane Powers]

Robert Waldner wrote:


On Friday 22 June 2001 20:21, Duane Powers wrote:


Brendon wrote:


short question, the subject says it all really. how do you find out which
io port your ISA networkcard is using?


cat /proc/ioports



which will give you only the ports for initialized cards, not that 
 useful if you just want to throw in the module initially...


cheers,
&rw



my bad. sorry.


~duane

Re: shared modem

[Wasim Ahmed]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 11:43:18AM -0700, Andrew Agno wrote:
> Wasim Ahmed writes:
>  > Probably the only useful thing that currently cannot be replicated on
>  > a Linux server on Windows NT Small Business Server appears to be
>  > shared modems.
> 
> Well, no.  You can use IP masquerade--it works just fine with modems.
> You can also set things up so that it dials on demand.

Oh.  I forgot to explain what I meant.  When I mean "shared modem" I
don't mean "shared internet connection", but rather a "shared modem".
That is, the ability to use a standard modem on COM2 of the server as
a modem from a virtual COM3 of the windows client.

Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks,

Wasim.

> 
> Look for the IPMASQ FAQ and documentation on diald.  I'm sure there
> are other ways, too.
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> 
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Re: A mouse Q..

[Joost Kooij]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 01:05:40PM -0400, Wayne wrote:
> Hi,
> To install Debian , for the first time, I used
> the CD from the book "Debian GNU/Linux Bible"
> When I assign my mouse protocol  PS/2 and selected
> the /dev/psaux with Emulate3Button my systems
> hangs. I have to reboot. If I use Microsoft and
> /dev/ttyS01 it works. When I boot my system,

That suggests that the mouse is connected to the serial port, not the
ps2 port.  Sure enough it shouldn't work with /dev/psaux then.
Or did you mean to say that you tried it both with a ps2 mouse
and with a different serial mouse?

But to hang your whole machine?  Perhaps it is just Xwindows that
freezes (maybe only for a minute or so).

There were some ps2 keyboard problems with kernels below 2.2.19 
IIRC, so it would be worth a try to install a newer kernel than
the one that came with the installer (2.2.17?)

> I see that my port PS/2 is recognize. Does anyone

You probably mean that the kernel prints a message at boot time,
indicated that it found the ps2 port controller chip in your 
system and that it activated a driver for it.  Maybe there
is a bug in the kernel, maybe it is in your cabling.  Impossible 
to tell from your data.

Cheers,


Joost

Re: [users] Re: kernel compiles

[MaD dUCK]

also sprach Robert Waldner (on Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:44:51PM +0200):
> now do a `make clean` (just to get rid of the modules, mostly) and 
>  re-do steps 1-3 for the second machine and the third and...
> 
> when you want to re-do for the first machine, just move the appropriate 
>  .config back, and re-do steps 2-3 (and 1 if you want to change some 
>  settings).
> 
> so, all you really have to keep seperated is the .config-file. (and the 
>  generated .deb´s/kernels, of course ;-) )

you misunderstood me. i know all this. but this method circumvenes the
positive effects of Makefiles.

nevermind.

martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
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Re: attaining IO port info for an ISA networkcard

[Robert Waldner]

>On Friday 22 June 2001 20:21, Duane Powers wrote:
>> Brendon wrote:
>> > short question, the subject says it all really. how do you find out which
>> > io port your ISA networkcard is using?
>>
>> cat /proc/ioports

which will give you only the ports for initialized cards, not that 
 useful if you just want to throw in the module initially...

cheers,
&rw
-- 
-- He has no soul, just a registry.
-- asr about MSCEs





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Re: changing hostname

[Joost Kooij]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 01:46:18PM -0400, David L. Craig wrote:
> Joost wrote:
> > 
> > In my experience, the best one is the bash(1) manpage.  It is is really
> > vital.  You don't properly realise how much until you've read all of it
> > (well maybe read a little faster over the readline bits).
> > 
> > Next come grep(1), sed(1) and awk(1).
> 
> No, next comes knowing your editor as well as your wife
> of twenty years.  If vi, then memorize man ex; if emacs,
> use info (you'll NEVER memorize it)...  Fast edits really
> stimulate the brain cells--you'll be glad you really
> studied this stuff forever more.

Fair correction.  This is also an organic part of the unix corpus.

I wouldn't know so sure about emacs.  It's possible worse than perl in the
sense of never returning home, because the trip just keeps going and going
and going and there's just no end in sight.  And then perl isn't even at
version 6 yet, whereas emacs.. It's even forked successfully a few times.

Lets just say that perl is unix history, undergraduate level, and that
emacs is the more academic course, that also covers the medieval times
that many people have sort of forgotten about.  A time when dotNET was
spelled DECnet, and it was just as proprietary and evil.  A time when
script kiddies were the anonymous young girls slaving away behind highly
advanced mechanical punch-hole machines, sold by an upstart vendor named
ibm.  A time when unix had only been declared dead-and-buried twice yet.
All these lost moments, forgotten in the sea of time...  *snif*

Vi is more interesting for other reasons that you already stipulate:
People should learn editors the right way and in the right order.
First there is ed(1), the standard editor.  Then there is ex(1), the
extended editor, adding a whole new dimension to editing, coming from
the world of ed.  :-)

Finally, you are fully prepared for vi(1), the visual editor.  Come and
experience the wealths of its feature rich editing environment, the
breakthough visual user interface, yet that still performs fine over a
twelve-second latency 2400 baud dialin terminal connection.  And there's
this gee-wiz "modality" feature, it's almost intuitive!

Cheers,


Joost

Re: [users] Re: kernel compiles

[Robert Waldner]

On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:28:04 +0200, MaD dUCK writes:
>also sprach Robert Waldner (on Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:20:41PM +0200):
>> you don´t need to maintain seperate trees of the whole source. just 
>>  `make (menu|x|)config`, then backup the .config-file. that´s where the 
>>  information you entered/chose is kept.
>
>i understand... but when i change the .config file severely, don't i
>have to do a make clean? or can i change the config file as much as i
>want to and do make dep and it'll just compile what's necessary?
>
>still, the argument holds: if i have two machines, compile the kernel
>for the first, then use the same tree to compile a kernel for the
>second, adding a module or a feature to the first kernel requires more
>recompilation than if i hadn't used the tree for the compilation of
>the second...

1. `make config`
2.  your favourite kernel-generating method (eg `kpkg ..` or
 `make dep; make image`
3. copy .config to whatever you like. 

now do a `make clean` (just to get rid of the modules, mostly) and 
 re-do steps 1-3 for the second machine and the third and...

when you want to re-do for the first machine, just move the appropriate 
 .config back, and re-do steps 2-3 (and 1 if you want to change some 
 settings).

so, all you really have to keep seperated is the .config-file. (and the 
 generated .deb´s/kernels, of course ;-) )

cheers+hth,
&rw
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-- be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma)





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RE:shared modem

[Andrew Agno]

Wasim Ahmed writes:
 > Probably the only useful thing that currently cannot be replicated on
 > a Linux server on Windows NT Small Business Server appears to be
 > shared modems.

Well, no.  You can use IP masquerade--it works just fine with modems.
You can also set things up so that it dials on demand.

Look for the IPMASQ FAQ and documentation on diald.  I'm sure there
are other ways, too.

Andrew.

Re: attaining IO port info for an ISA networkcard

[Brendon]

On Friday 22 June 2001 20:21, Duane Powers wrote:
> Brendon wrote:
> > short question, the subject says it all really. how do you find out which
> > io port your ISA networkcard is using?
>
> cat /proc/ioports

which gives:

000-001f dma1
0020-003f pic1
0040-005f timer
0060-006f keyboard
0070-007f rtc
0080-008f dma page reg
00a0-00bf pic2
00c0-00df dma2
00f0-00ff fpu
01f0-01f7 ide0
02f8-02ff serial(set)
03c0-03df vga+
03f6-03f6 ide0
03f8-03ff serial(set)

none of which i recognise as the networkcard. the networkcard is a 
realtek8019 isa card. i need the io port to install the module with modconf 
("ISA cards explicitly require an "io=0xNNN value"). though the card is 
properly inserted judging by a light up led i didnt see it mentioned on 
startup or in /proc/interrupts.

Re: [users] Re: kernel compiles

[MaD dUCK]

also sprach Robert Waldner (on Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:20:41PM +0200):
> you don´t need to maintain seperate trees of the whole source. just 
>  `make (menu|x|)config`, then backup the .config-file. that´s where the 
>  information you entered/chose is kept.

i understand... but when i change the .config file severely, don't i
have to do a make clean? or can i change the config file as much as i
want to and do make dep and it'll just compile what's necessary?

still, the argument holds: if i have two machines, compile the kernel
for the first, then use the same tree to compile a kernel for the
second, adding a module or a feature to the first kernel requires more
recompilation than if i hadn't used the tree for the compilation of
the second...

martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
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Re: attaining IO port info for an ISA networkcard

[Duane Powers]

Brendon wrote:

short question, the subject says it all really. how do you find out which io 
port your ISA networkcard is using?



Brendon





cat /proc/ioports

~duane

Re: [users] Re: kernel compiles

[Robert Waldner]

On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 20:17:14 +0200, MaD dUCK writes:
>also sprach Bob Nielsen (on Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:42:23AM -0700):
>> True, but you can/should configure and compile separately for each
>> destination architecture, optimizing appropriately.
>
>so yes, the argument that my athlon (thunderbird actually) will
>outperform the others still holds. but i'd need to keep separate
>source trees if i didn't want to make clean every single time - which
>i usually don't since i experiment a whole lot and therefore change
>the kernel - which doesn't take long thanks to make unless i make
>cleaned it...

you don´t need to maintain seperate trees of the whole source. just 
 `make (menu|x|)config`, then backup the .config-file. that´s where the 
 information you entered/chose is kept.

cheers,
&rw
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-- Mark Twain (on whiskey)





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Re: [users] Re: kernel compiles

[MaD dUCK]

also sprach Bob Nielsen (on Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:42:23AM -0700):
> True, but you can/should configure and compile separately for each
> destination architecture, optimizing appropriately.

so yes, the argument that my athlon (thunderbird actually) will
outperform the others still holds. but i'd need to keep separate
source trees if i didn't want to make clean every single time - which
i usually don't since i experiment a whole lot and therefore change
the kernel - which doesn't take long thanks to make unless i make
cleaned it...

martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
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Re: [users] Re: kernel compiles

[MaD dUCK]

also sprach Nathan E Norman (on Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:42:37PM -0500):
> I fail to see why you think compiling a kernel on an Athlon, but
> optimising for a 486 cos you're installing on a 486 is a problem.

that's what i am doing btw. and sorry, i wasn't possibly thinking
about multiple .debs, just that you'd make one single .deb for all
machines. my bad, clearly.

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shared modem

[Wasim Ahmed]

Hello,

I have searched just about everywhere, but can't find an answer about
this, so probably someone out there knows.  Here goes. . .

Probably the only useful thing that currently cannot be replicated on
a Linux server on Windows NT Small Business Server appears to be
shared modems.

Of course I won't be able to replicate the "wonderful features of
MS-Office", but that's what OpenOffice on Windows machines is for.
There are various fax servers, and probably a lot more that I haven't
even come across.  But what about a replacement for shared modems?

I do know that is not quite right, and there is a mini-FAQ out there
on how to share a modem from a Linux machine onto a bunch of Windows
9x machines.  However it requires the user to get some pretty
expensive Windows software to make it work.  Surely there is a GPL'ed
(or near enough) way?

Thanks,

Wasim.

Re: [users] Re: kernel compiles

[Joost Kooij]

On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 06:34:25PM +0200, MaD dUCK wrote:
> also sprach Nathan E Norman (on Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:01:13AM -0500):
> > Well, for one thing, you can compile kernels on your 1GHz Athlon
> > instead of your old 486 :)  Since kernel-package creates a package, it
> > can be installed anywhere.
> 
> but i usually choose the appropriate kernel architecture during the
> menuconfig session, and while the 486 will run on the Athlon, it's not
> vice versa. and am i not correct in believeing that it's better e.g.
> for a pentium to run a P5 kernel rather than a 386 kernel...
> performance wise?

You can have one big machine with lots of cpu, disk and mem and keep
one source tree and all the configs for all your different machines.
Compile all your kernels for all your machines on the fast one and then
copy the resultant .deb over to the target machine for installation.

That would be a lot harder to manage with only "make install" from the
kernel Makefile.  It would at least involve exporting filesystems over
the network.

Cheers,


Joost

licq

[Reza]

Hi..
I have a bit problem with my ICQ, it used to be fine,
and just all of a sudden, it gave me message like
this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ licq
13:49:36: [ERR] Unable to load plugin (qt-gui):
/usr/lib/libqt.so.2: undefined symbol:
setTextW_6QLabelRC7QString.

Can someone tell what I'm supposed to do?
Thank you

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Re: Netscape makes X server crash!!!

[Karsten M. Self]

on Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 10:44:27PM -0400, Alexander Stavitsky ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm using communicator-smotif-477.
> On some pages it crashes bringing X down with it.
> I experienced many Netscape crashes over the years,
> but this is new. It bring Xserver down!!!
> Example: http://www.tigerdirect.com
> With StyleSheets enabled it crashes everytime.
> IMHO, the fact that Xserver dies as well is pretty outrageous.
> I am at loss as to which piece of software is actually at fault.

My suggestion for browser-related issues at this point is to suggest
something other than Netscape.  Alternatives exist, all better, most
capable of being run on similar or lesser hardware.  Galeon, Konqueror,
Skipstone, Mozilla, Opera, w3m...   Take your pick.

If the problems persist, post back, with 'strace' output for both your
browser and X sessions, trimmed to start of errors preceeding crash.

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