Re: clavier et sequence inconnue

2002-01-01 Thread LioneL

Nicolas Ledez wrote:


Le Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 02:52:20AM +0100, Encolpe DEGOUTE a écrit :


On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 04:00:23PM +0100, LioneL wrote:


j'ai le message suivant en mode console :
Keyboard: unknow e1 escape sequence
je me demande à quoi correspond ce message ?
de plus le clavier se bloque + ou - longtemps !


Change les piles.


Et bien non, il y a le même message quand les piles sont neuves...
A ce jour, je ne connais que 2 solutions (qui n'en sont pas vraiment) :
- Utiliser X
- Changer de clavier
- Peut-être essayer le frame-buffer
 





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Gestion d'irq

2002-01-01 Thread zulian

Je ne peux plus initialisé mon modem avec mon script, le message d'erreur est :
0x2f8 busy
siocslfflags permission non accordée.

Je présume avoir un conflit d'irq, j'ai changé quelques temps auparavant ma 
carte video.

Qu'en pensez vous ?

Quel est l'utilitaire ou la commande  pour gerer les irq sous linux ?

Bonne année

Frederic



Re: Gestion d'irq

2002-01-01 Thread Patrice Karatchentzeff
zulian écrivait:
  
  
  Quel est l'utilitaire ou la commande  pour gerer les irq sous linux ?
  

$ cat /proc/pci

PK


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Carte Audio Intégrée VIA AC97 et la Potatoe

2002-01-01 Thread spear
Salut !

Je cherche, je cherche, et je ne m'en sors pas ...
D'après le site d'ALSA, ce chip (intégré à la carte mère)est géré.
Cependant, je ne le vois pas dans la version Alsa proposée avec la
potatoe (via alsaconf).
Est-il intégré dans une version ultérieure ? Faut il se méfier des
versions Alsa par rapport à la version du noyau ?

J'ai trouvé le site d'Alsa assez tristounet niveau infos (quels paquets
installer, etc ...j'ai pas trouvé)

Merci de vos lumières :)

Mathias





Re: Carte Audio Intégrée VIA AC97 et la Potatoe

2002-01-01 Thread Christophe Baillon
Salut

Il me semble que dans potato il n'y ait que alsa version 0.5

Personnelement, je suis sous sid, et il y a plsrs package dispo :

libasound0.4 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (old libraries)
libasound0.4-dev - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (old development)
libasound1 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (libraries)
libasound1-dev - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (development)
libasound2 - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (libraries)
libasound2-dev - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (development)

libasound1 est la version 0.5

libasound2 est la version 0.9

Je te conseille vivement la 0.9, je ne sais pas si ça 
résoudra ton pb, mais il y a de grandes chances.

Si le package n'est pas dans potato, essayes avec les sources
(attention, si tu as un noyau  2.4.15 de bien avoir la 0.9.0-beta10 ou
superieur)


Voila,

Bonne année



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Re[2]: Error: XOpenDisplay not found in -lX11

2002-01-01 Thread Illusion
FB Il te manque probablement le paquet xlibs-dev pour les librairies de
FB développement pour XFree 4. Pour XFree 3, je dirais xlib6g-dev (sans en
FB être sûr).

Merci beaucoup, j'ai installé le package xlib6g-dev et le configure
est passé sans problème. Bon entre temps j'avais vu qu'il existait un
pacakge debian pour ce programme mais je vais peut-être le
désinstaller vu qu'on peut appliquer un patch sur les sources qui me
rendrait pas mal service.

Par contre, je ne comprends pas trop pourquoi ça a fonctionné. Etant
donné que je suis en testing, ma version de X est donc la 4 ce qui ne
correspondrait donc pas. Enfin je n'ai d'ailleurs pas tout compris à
la description du package mais bon...


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Re: Carte Audio Intégrée VIA AC97 et la Potatoe

2002-01-01 Thread oualmakran youssef
Salut,

Il semblerait qu'il existe 2 méthodes pour faire reconnaitre sa carte 
son :

- alsa ( +vieux noyau)
- module du noyau ( sans alsa )

La deuxième méthode me _parait_  meilleur,  car les cartes
AC97 sont reconnues  par  le noyau ( du moins, si l'on possède le
2.4.17)

 Esaie d'abord de configurer les modules, sinon instale
le dernier noyau.

Pour les modules :


En root :
-  Tape modconf ;
-  Va  dans kernel/drivers/sound ;
-  Sélectionne succesivement AC97 et AC97_codec avec «enter»,
  un « + » devrait apparaitre à la place du « - »

Bonne chance.
Youssef



Re: Carte Audio Intégrée VIA AC97 et la Potatoe

2002-01-01 Thread Patrice Karatchentzeff
oualmakran youssef écrivait:
  
  En root :
  -  Tape modconf ;
  -  Va  dans kernel/drivers/sound ;
  -  Sélectionne succesivement AC97 et AC97_codec avec «enter»,
un « + » devrait apparaitre à la place du « - »

ou beaucoup plus simplement :

# modprobe ac97
# modprobe ac97_codec

Pour l'automatisation au boot, lire la FAQ.

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Re: Carte Audio Intégrée VIA AC97 et la Potatoe

2002-01-01 Thread Stéphane Del Pino
Le Mardi 1 Janvier 2002 16:32, Patrice Karatchentzeff a écrit :
 ou beaucoup plus simplement :

 # modprobe ac97
 # modprobe ac97_codec

 Pour l'automatisation au boot, lire la FAQ.

Ou justement utiliser modconf qui fait ça automatiquement ...



Pb avec mon serveur x

2002-01-01 Thread Sly
Bonjour, et bonne année a tous,

J'ai un probleme avec mon serveur X, je voudrais donc savoir quelqu'un a
deja rencontré ce probleme là :
(je suis en unstable)

Startx :

You must provide a Screen section in XF86Config for at
least one of the following graphics drivers: svga

Fatal server error:
No configured graphics devices


XF86Setup :

Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident Cyber
9520 (generic) (line 2252).
Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident Providia
9682 (generic) (line 2275).
Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident Providia
9685 (generic) (line 2280).
Warning CHIPSET specification missing in Card database entry Intel 810 (line
2919).
Warning CHIPSET specification missing in Card database entry Intel 740
(generic) (line 2925).
Segmentation fault

dpkg -l | grep XF :

ii  xfree86-common 4.1.0-11   X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure
ii  xserver-common 3.3.6-42   files and utilities common to XFree86 3.x
X
ii  xviddetect 0.3-4  XFree86 installation helper


Merci beaucoup de votre aide
++ Sly




Re: Carte Audio Intégrée VIA AC97 et la Potatoe

2002-01-01 Thread oualmakran youssef
Salut,

  ou beaucoup plus simplement [...] modprobe [...]
 Merci, effectivement, c'est beaucoup plus rapide,
une fois que l'on connait cette commande.

  Pour l'automatisation au boot, lire la FAQ.
Une mine de savoir,...
J'en profite pour faire une disgression sur le point 5.2, et 
l'installation d'un nouveau noyau.
 
 J'ai installé le noyau 2.4.17 précompilé  grace à 
« apt-get install kernel-image-2-4.17-k7 ». 
AMHA, c'est une méthode qui demande très peu d'efforts.
Mais, je n'ai pas trouvé de référence à cela dans la FAQ.

Comme je suis encore débutant, je me suis demandé s'il
s'agissait d'une  lacune, d'une lecture trop cursive de ma part, ou
encore d'une remarque impertinente?

A+
Youssef, qui a installé un noyau sans se rappeler comment. 



Gestion des paquets

2002-01-01 Thread Illusion
Bonjour,

Comment peut-on avoir la liste des paquets Debian installé sur le
système, si possible classé par taille ? (j'ai un petit disque (1,6
Go.) qui sert essentiellement à faire tourner un programme de partage,
et je cherche donc à éliminer le maximum de programmes inutiles).


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Re: Gestion des paquets

2002-01-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tuesday 1 January 2002, at 18 h 20, the keyboard of Illusion 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Comment peut-on avoir la liste des paquets Debian installé sur le
 système,

dpkg -l (man dpkg est indispensable mais assez long à parcourir)

 si possible classé par taille ? 

Mon programme gorets ? Mettez :

deb ftp://ftp.internatif.org/pub/debian/UNOFFICIAL/ ./ 

dans votre sources.list et 'apt-get install gorets'.





Re: graph automates

2002-01-01 Thread edouard boucher
| je me demandais si je pouvais l'utiliser ou pas.
|
|Je comprends bien ta préoccupation sur le plan légal,
|mais je peux pas y répondre ... (la réponse de Denis
|est fort probablement correcte)
|
|Par contre, je vois pas le lien que tu fais avec 
|la possibilité de l'utiliser ?? 
|
|Je vois pas où est le problème ... tu peux le télécharger,
|ça répond à ton besoin (?) ... alors !?
|

Je compte utiliser ce type de logiciel pour mon usage personnel,
chez moi, donc techniquement, rien ne m'empeche d'utiliser
un logiciel freeware, ou shareware, ou meme proprio, ou meme proprio pirate,
par contre pour des raison morales je refuse d'utiliser ce type de logiciel
qui n'est pas libre. D'ou le sens de ma question (qui il est vrai n'est pas
clair du tout)

Merci pour ton aide

Edouard



Re: Carte Audio Intégrée VIA AC97 et la Potatoe

2002-01-01 Thread Patrice Karatchentzeff
oualmakran youssef écrivait:

   J'ai installé le noyau 2.4.17 précompilé  grace à 
  « apt-get install kernel-image-2-4.17-k7 ». 
  AMHA, c'est une méthode qui demande très peu d'efforts.
  Mais, je n'ai pas trouvé de référence à cela dans la FAQ.
  
  Comme je suis encore débutant, je me suis demandé s'il
  s'agissait d'une  lacune, d'une lecture trop cursive de ma part, ou
  encore d'une remarque impertinente?
  

Je ne comprends pas trop le sens de ta question : tu veux une FAQ sur
apt ou le noyau 2.4 ?

En plus, la sortie la Woody est imminente ;-)

PK

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Re: Acceleration 3D voodoo3

2002-01-01 Thread Alexandre Courbot
le lun 31-12-2001 à 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 Bonjour, 
 Apres 1 an d absence, j ai retrouve mon ordinateur, ma potato, et ma
 voodoo3. J avais un kernel 2.2.12 et Xfree3.3, l acceleration 3D
 fonctionnait tres bien a condition d installer le modules 3dfx.o.
 Maitenant je suis sous woody/sid, j ai un kernel 2.4.16, et j utilise
 XFree4. La 2D marche tres bien. J aimerai savoir comment faire pour avoir la
 3D. J ai installer le packet libglide3, activer le DRI et le TDFX dans le
 kernel, je n ai pas de message d erreur dans les logs de Xfree. Mais quand
 je lance Quake3, je suis a 2FPS.
 Est ce que qqun utilise la meme configuration que moi et n a pas de probleme
 ? Y a t il de meilleurs paquets a installer ?

Salut,

J'ai la même config que toi et en effet il y a d'autres paquets à
installer.

Je ne suis pas un expert dans ce domaine (corrigez moi donc), mais il me
semble que pour la version 4, Xfree passe par Mesa qui passe par DRI qui
utilise ta Voodoo. Cela demande plusieurs choses:

-Le support DRI dans le kernel (apparamment c'est ok pour toi)
-Une version de Mesa qui utilise le DRI
-Les droits nécessaires pour avoir accès au fichier device correspondant
à ta carte.

Pour Mesa, assure toi d'avoir installé le package xlibmesa3. Je crois
que glide ne te sera d'aucune utilité dans ce cas.

Ensuite, il faut informer ton serveur X que tu vas utiliser le DRI. Dans
la section Module de ton /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, assure toi d'avoir

Load  dri
Load  glx

Et ajoute en fin de ton fichier (si ce n'est pas déjà present)

Section DRI
Mode0666
EndSection

Enfin, dernier détail qui a son importance, avec la Voodoo 3 tu dois
IMPERATIVEMENT être en 16bpp pour tirer parti de l'accélération
graphique. Elle n'est pas implémentée pour les autres modes.

Lorsque X démarre, il devrait créer un fichier device nommé
/dev/dri/card0 avec les droits 666 (c'est à dire que tout le monde peut
lire et écrire dedans). C'est ce device là qui est utilisé pour tirer
parti de l'accélération 3D. Si tu l'as lorsque X tourne, tu devrais être
bon. Quake 3 tourne à merveille! ;)

Si tu le souhaite, je peux t'envoyer mon fichier de config X en privé
(trop gros pour la liste). Sinon je crois qu'il existe un Howto à ce
sujet, jette un coup d'oeil sur google.

Amicalement,
Alex.

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configuration de fstab

2002-01-01 Thread zulian
Bonjour,

Malgrés de trés nombreuses tentatives etune lecture studieuse de man.
Ma configuration de fstab pour le lecteur de disquette et de cdrom est un echec.

Voici par exemple ma ligne pour le lecteur de disquette :

/dev/fd0 /floppy auto defaults,user,noauto 0 0

Ler systeme me repond que le systeme de fichier n'est pas défini,
 pourtant dans cette ligne il devrait l'identifier automatiquement !

Peut-on configurer autrement fstab qu'en l'éditant ?


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Re: Gestion d'irq

2002-01-01 Thread zulian

 zulian écrivait:
  
  
   Quel est l'utilitaire ou la commande  pour gerer les irq sous linux ?
  
 $ cat /proc/pci
 PK

Ah, ben voila,  merci, j'ai pu éliminer l'option irq.

Finalement il s'agissait d'un conflit sur un port série entre 2 softs.

Frédéric



J'ai perdu mon noyau !

2002-01-01 Thread zulian

Bonjour

Aprés une recompilation sans pb, je vais chercher mon nouveau noyau
dans /usr/src/linux/archi/i386/boot et je ne le trouve pas.

Pour la compilation j'ai utiliser la procedure suivante : make xconfig, make 
dep, make modules,
 make modules_install, make clean.

Ai je oublié quelque chose ?
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Re: J'ai perdu mon noyau !

2002-01-01 Thread nicolas delon
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:36:56PM +0100, zulian wrote:
 
 Bonjour
 
 Aprés une recompilation sans pb, je vais chercher mon nouveau noyau
 dans /usr/src/linux/archi/i386/boot et je ne le trouve pas.
 
 Pour la compilation j'ai utiliser la procedure suivante : make xconfig, make 
 dep, make modules,
  make modules_install, make clean.
 
 Ai je oublié quelque chose ?

make zImage (gzip)
ou
make bzImage (bzip2)

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Re: J'ai perdu mon noyau !

2002-01-01 Thread Christophe Baillon
On Tue, 2002-01-01 at 21:36, zulian wrote:
 
 Bonjour
 
 Aprés une recompilation sans pb, je vais chercher mon nouveau noyau
 dans /usr/src/linux/archi/i386/boot et je ne le trouve pas.
 
 Pour la compilation j'ai utiliser la procedure suivante : make xconfig, make 
 dep, make modules,
  make modules_install, make clean.
 
 Ai je oublié quelque chose ?

Oui, je crains que tu ai oublié le noyau :) !
make xconfig; make dep;
make clean;
make bzImage;
make modules;
make modules_install

Voilà

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Re: J'ai perdu mon noyau !

2002-01-01 Thread Benoit.Lucazeau

zulian wrote:


Bonjour

Aprés une recompilation sans pb, je vais chercher mon nouveau noyau
dans /usr/src/linux/archi/i386/boot et je ne le trouve pas.

Pour la compilation j'ai utiliser la procedure suivante : make xconfig, make 
dep, make modules,
 make modules_install, make clean.

Ai je oublié quelque chose ?



un make bzImage oui :)

mais je te conseille vivement d'utiliser le package kernel-package de 
debian.

et ensuite de faire make-pkgk pleinsd'option simples
La FAQ en parle et la manpage est simple à lire.

C'est réellement utile et pratique à utiliser.

a+ et bonne année à tout le monde
Benoit




Re: clavier et sequence inconnue

2002-01-01 Thread LioneL

Nicolas Ledez wrote:


Le Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 02:52:20AM +0100, Encolpe DEGOUTE a écrit :


On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 04:00:23PM +0100, LioneL wrote:


j'ai le message suivant en mode console :
Keyboard: unknow e1 escape sequence
je me demande à quoi correspond ce message ?
de plus le clavier se bloque + ou - longtemps !


Change les piles.


Et bien non, il y a le même message quand les piles sont neuves...
A ce jour, je ne connais que 2 solutions (qui n'en sont pas vraiment) :
- Utiliser X



c'est vrai sous X ou windows, il n'y a pas de problemes avec le clavier

par contre sous X et avec la souris, si elle reste longtemps immobile et 
 que je la bouge un peu, elle devient folle, le curseur se deplacant 
tout seul en cliquant aleatoirement !




- Changer de clavier




- Peut-être essayer le frame-buffer



je ne connais pas, peut-tu me donner plus de renseignements ?


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czy post woody - kompilacja bota problem...

2002-01-01 Thread seeb
Witaj debian-user-polish!

  czy post o takim temacie jak wyzej dotarl na liste ?

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Re: [l-gulic] De nuevo probando y

2002-01-01 Thread Benjamn Encuentra
Ya somos 2. Yo lo he conseguido configurar en la consola, y se ve en las X 
pero no se puede escribir. Con KDE, ni se ve, ni se escribe.

Saludos,
B. Encuentra


El Lun 31 Dic 2001 01:26, 31 escribió:
 El Dom 30 Dic 2001 23:10, guinsel escribió:
  P.D.: Tanto el KDE para Potato como para Woody tienen soporte para el ¤
  siguiendo estos pasos.

 Yo sigo exacatamente esos pasos y puedo poner con control+c esto: ¢ y con
 control+e esto:  (es decir nada, ni se mueve el cursor) en Kmail en
 woody. Ya he instalado el euro-support y user-euro-es ejectando los scripts
 euro-test y castellanizar pero nada, el castellanizar me suelta una
 historía en la que llego a ver el euro y puedo escribirlo, pero al cerrar
 no debe guardar bien en donde tiene que hacerlo y sigo sin tenerlo.



Re: Impresin

2002-01-01 Thread Benjamn Encuentra
¿Algo más utiliza la IRQ7?

Saludos,
B. Encuentra

El Dom 30 Dic 2001 21:05, Swat escribió:
 Hola gente

 Tras probar todo tipo de cosas para imprimir, resulta que el problema
 está con el /dev/lp0, el cual no lo reconoce. Tampoco es posible hacerlo
 con MAKEDEV. Problema del kernel no es, pq está habilitado el soporte
 para el puerto paralelo. En fin, que no se que mas hacer, alguna
 sugerencia?
 thx

 Swat



Re: xawtv

2002-01-01 Thread Jos Luis Fernndez Barros
El Lun 31 Dic 2001 11:04, Hugo Morago escribió:
 Hola. Tengo configurado axwtv y he probado todos los canales del 1 al
 69, porque a partir del 70 no encuentra más. El caso es que no coge
 todos los canales que tengo, tan sólo 7. El único modo de pillar otros
 canales ha sido ajustando la sintonía con la tecla flecha, pero claro,
 no son modos, se tarda demasiado y no me los guarda.
 Pues eso, ¿ahi algún modo para sintonizar y grabar todos los canales que
 tengo? ¿Estoy haciendo algo mal, como un error en la selección de la
 frequency table?
 Saludos y mucha fiesta esta noche.

   Ctrl+up  scan for next station
 
 Página de Manual xawtv(1) línea 141

Lo demás es fácil:

TV norm: PAL
Video source:  Television
Frecuency table: Europe-west

(en la versión de potato hay otra para cable... ¿que conectado por Retecal 
sólo tienes 7 canales?)
También es posible que no hayas acertado con las opciones del módulo bttv 
para tu tarjeta.

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Programas para hacer animaciones Flash

2002-01-01 Thread Carlos
Hola,
Quería saber si existe algún programa para hacer animaciones flash en linux
y si está empaquetado para debian potato.
Saludos y gracias,
Carlos




Problemas com 3dfx

2002-01-01 Thread igor vanderlei

Oi lista,

estou com o seguinte problema: quando eu estava com o kernel 2.2.17 a minha 
placa voodoo3 estava funcionando corratamente, depois que eu mudei para o 
2.4.14 ela parou de funcionar. sendo que nos dois casos eu instalei o módulo 
3dfx da mesma forma. (instalei o pacote device3dfx-source, compilei o drive 
para o devido kernel, depois insmod 3dfx.o).


no kernel 2.4 ocorreu o seguinte erro:

/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
pci_read_config_dword_Rsmp_1372ae4e
/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
pcibios_read_config_dword_Rsmp_38ae6689
/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
pcibios_write_config_dword_Rsmp_81b4f465
/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
pcibios_read_config_byte_Rsmp_d80115e1
/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
unregister_chrdev_Rsmp_c192d491
/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
pcibios_present_Rsmp_520a75b9
/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
printk_Rsmp_1b7d4074
/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
register_chrdev_Rsmp_1033a627
/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
remap_page_range_Rsmp_69d01e73
/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
pcibios_read_config_word_Rsmp_aa9effd7
/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
pci_find_device_Rsmp_8b4d5816
/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: insmod 
/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o failed

/lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: insmod 3dfx failed

Installation failed.


olhem o que diz na página do pacote:

Device driver source for 3Dfx boards for 2.2+ kernels
This package is the source for the 3Dfx device driver to allow access to 
3Dfx boards without the user having root privileges. It should work on 
2.2/2.3/2.4/2.5 kernels and set the MTRR settings correctly. It should also 
work with SMP kernels (2.2/2.3/2.4/2.5).



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Erro na inicialização

2002-01-01 Thread Danielquintao
Galera antes de tudo. um bom 2002 pra todos...


Meu problema é o seguinte: Ta instalando uma placa pcmcia de Wireless em meu
micro (a placa funcionou blz por sinal) mas quando retirei a placa que
comecou o problema... Ao reiniciar a maquina e remover todos os pacotes que
tinha instalado está aparecendo a seguinte mensagem: Note:
/etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.4.17/modules.dep. Ta
tudo funcionando normalmente mas ta aparecendo essa mensagem varias vezes
durante o processo de boot. Já recompilei o kernel (+ de um vez inclusive)
mas a mensagem ensiste em não sair. Se alguém tiver alguma dica ficarei
grato.

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Erro na inicialização

2002-01-01 Thread Danielquintao
Galera antes de tudo. um bom 2002 pra todos...


Meu problema é o seguinte: Ta instalando uma placa pcmcia de Wireless em meu
micro (a placa funcionou blz por sinal) mas quando retirei a placa que
comecou o problema... Ao reiniciar a maquina e remover todos os pacotes que
tinha instalado está aparecendo a seguinte mensagem: Note:
/etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.4.17/modules.dep. Ta
tudo funcionando normalmente mas ta aparecendo essa mensagem varias vezes
durante o processo de boot. Já recompilei o kernel (+ de um vez inclusive)
mas a mensagem ensiste em não sair. Se alguém tiver alguma dica ficarei
grato.

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Re: Problemas com 3dfx

2002-01-01 Thread Alexandre Pereira da Silva
Tente o driver que vem com o kernel...

Em Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 03:12:17PM -0200, igor vanderlei escreveu:
 Oi lista,
 
 estou com o seguinte problema: quando eu estava com o kernel 2.2.17 a minha 
 placa voodoo3 estava funcionando corratamente, depois que eu mudei para o 
 2.4.14 ela parou de funcionar. sendo que nos dois casos eu instalei o módulo 
 
 3dfx da mesma forma. (instalei o pacote device3dfx-source, compilei o drive 
 para o devido kernel, depois insmod 3dfx.o).
 
 no kernel 2.4 ocorreu o seguinte erro:
 
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
 pci_read_config_dword_Rsmp_1372ae4e
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
 pcibios_read_config_dword_Rsmp_38ae6689
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
 pcibios_write_config_dword_Rsmp_81b4f465
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
 pcibios_read_config_byte_Rsmp_d80115e1
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
 unregister_chrdev_Rsmp_c192d491
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
 pcibios_present_Rsmp_520a75b9
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
 printk_Rsmp_1b7d4074
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
 register_chrdev_Rsmp_1033a627
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
 remap_page_range_Rsmp_69d01e73
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
 pcibios_read_config_word_Rsmp_aa9effd7
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: unresolved symbol 
 pci_find_device_Rsmp_8b4d5816
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: insmod 
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o failed
 /lib/modules/2.4.14-586/kernel/drivers/video/3dfx.o: insmod 3dfx failed
 
 Installation failed.
 
 
 olhem o que diz na página do pacote:
 
 Device driver source for 3Dfx boards for 2.2+ kernels
 This package is the source for the 3Dfx device driver to allow access to 
 3Dfx boards without the user having root privileges. It should work on 
 2.2/2.3/2.4/2.5 kernels and set the MTRR settings correctly. It should also 
 work with SMP kernels (2.2/2.3/2.4/2.5).
 
 
 alguma dica?
 
 
 
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Re: modem Intel Anbient

2002-01-01 Thread Ricardo Sandrin
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 12:54:26 -0300
Debianuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Boa Tarde lista ...
 
 
 Tenho um modem Intel HaM Data Fax Voice ( antigo cirrus logic 5628), na
 pagina da intel tem o driver em .tz, gostaria de saber se exite em .deb e
 onde posso baixa-lo...
 
 grato
 
Hmm, acho meio díficil procure em sites como o Google sempre tem algo: 
http://www.google.com
 
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Re: Erro na inicialização

2002-01-01 Thread Marinho Paiva Duarte
Olá!!

Isso já aconteceu comigo várias vezes. Não chega a ser um problema,
mas sempre que a data do modules.conf está mais recente que a do
modules.dep dá essa mensagem. Como eu disse não chega a ser um
problema mas não é elegante deixar essa mensagem. 
Todas as vezes que isso aconteceu eu editei o
/lib/modules/2.4.17/modules.dep com o vi e sem mudar absolutamente
nada saí e salvei o arquivo com o comando :wq 
Com isso ele muda a data do arquivo e a mensagem para de aparecer. Boa
Sorte!!!

P.S.: A propósito, alguém sabe o porque do sistema reclamar por que um
arquivo é mais novo que o outro???


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On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 18:27:47
Danielquintao [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Galera antes de tudo. um bom 2002 pra todos...

Meu problema é o seguinte: Ta instalando uma placa pcmcia de Wireless em meu
micro (a placa funcionou blz por sinal) mas quando retirei a placa que
comecou o problema... Ao reiniciar a maquina e remover todos os pacotes que
tinha instalado está aparecendo a seguinte mensagem: Note:
/etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.4.17/modules.dep. Ta
tudo funcionando normalmente mas ta aparecendo essa mensagem varias vezes
durante o processo de boot. Já recompilei o kernel (+ de um vez inclusive)
mas a mensagem ensiste em não sair. Se alguém tiver alguma dica ficarei
grato.

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Re: Erro na inicialização

2002-01-01 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:27:34 -0200
Marinho Paiva Duarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Olá!!
 
 Isso já aconteceu comigo várias vezes. Não chega a ser um problema,
 mas sempre que a data do modules.conf está mais recente que a do
 modules.dep dá essa mensagem. Como eu disse não chega a ser um
 problema mas não é elegante deixar essa mensagem. 
 Todas as vezes que isso aconteceu eu editei o
 /lib/modules/2.4.17/modules.dep com o vi e sem mudar absolutamente
 nada saí e salvei o arquivo com o comando :wq 
o certo é fazer: depmod -a como root...

 P.S.: A propósito, alguém sabe o porque do sistema reclamar por que um
 arquivo é mais novo que o outro???
porque o modeles.dep guarda informações de dependências de módulos
que são importantes para carregar os ditos, portanto a informação do
.dep é importante para o .conf e tem de estar atualizada =)

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Re: Erro na inicializaç ão

2002-01-01 Thread Alexandre Pereira da Silva
Em Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 08:23:29PM -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva escreveu:
 On Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:27:34 -0200
 Marinho Paiva Duarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Olá!!
  
  Isso já aconteceu comigo várias vezes. Não chega a ser um problema,
  mas sempre que a data do modules.conf está mais recente que a do
  modules.dep dá essa mensagem. Como eu disse não chega a ser um
  problema mas não é elegante deixar essa mensagem. 
  Todas as vezes que isso aconteceu eu editei o
  /lib/modules/2.4.17/modules.dep com o vi e sem mudar absolutamente
  nada saí e salvei o arquivo com o comando :wq 
 o certo é fazer: depmod -a como root...

Melhor ainda: update-modules
E lembrar de nao editar o arquivo modules.conf, deixar as alteracoes no 
diretorio /etc/modutils

 
  P.S.: A propósito, alguém sabe o porque do sistema reclamar por que um
  arquivo é mais novo que o outro???
 porque o modeles.dep guarda informações de dependências de módulos
 que são importantes para carregar os ditos, portanto a informação do
 .dep é importante para o .conf e tem de estar atualizada =)
 
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Re: Erro na inicialização

2002-01-01 Thread Danielquintao
Resolvi o problema aqui, quer dizer depois que dei uma saida aq quando fui
religar o computador a mensagem não apareceu mais...


Valeu a todos pela atençaõ...


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Re: Problemas com 3dfx

2002-01-01 Thread igor vanderlei

oi,

O kernel não vem com o drive

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Re: Problemas com 3dfx

2002-01-01 Thread igor vanderlei

oi,

O kernel não vem com o drive

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Re: Inicializaçã o do ssh no boot do Debian.

2002-01-01 Thread Carlos Laviola
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 10:35:05PM -0300, Jeandre Uchoa wrote:
 kov,
 
 
Quis intalar a ultima versão estável do ssh, não achei em
 pacotes. Já compilei e instalei. Só não consegui deixar no boot do debian.

Na unstable já tem:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh -V
OpenSSH_3.0.1p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090602f

De qualquer modo, crie um arquivo /etc/rc.boot/ssh, e coloque o
comando que você quer que seja executado (provavelmente,
/usr/local/sbin/sshd) dentro dele, torne o executável, obviamente :),
e pronto.

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modem Intel Anbient

2002-01-01 Thread Debianuser
Boa Tarde lista ...


Tenho um modem Intel HaM Data Fax Voice ( antigo cirrus logic 5628), na
pagina da intel tem o driver em .tz, gostaria de saber se exite em .deb e
onde posso baixa-lo...

grato



Re: Fonts' strategy

2002-01-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 07:30:34PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:28:39 -0800
 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   which fonts should I install and why would I install xfs ?
  
font server is useful if you want to provide fonts for more than one
X server, otherwise you don't have a reason to run it (AFAIK)
  
   how can I use fonts from Windows ?
  
apt-get install msttcorefonts
  
if you have more true type fonts you need to have them accessible
from linux, add a font path in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and run
mkfontdir for that directory (actually it's mkttfdir for true type
fonts, there's also alternate utility with very similar name), not
sure if latest mkfontdir supports true type fonts...
  
that's assuming you are using X 4.x which has support for true type
  fonts, for older X 3.x you'd have to use separate font server (there
  are few available, not sure which is better)
  
 
 how can I see which fonts I've already installed ?

$ xlsfonts
$ ls /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
$ dpkg --get-selections xfonts-*

 why is konqueror's font under woody so ugly ? 

No idea.  What font?  Screenshot?  Post URL, ***DON'T*** attach and send
to list.

Peace.

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Re: Kernels - The Debian Way

2002-01-01 Thread Keith O'Connell
Serafim Zanikolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 08:59:50AM +, Keith O'Connell wrote:
 
Only a few days ago I posted (part of) the description of the package
 newbiedoc:
 
 Current release includes:
 --- Compiling kernels the Debian way


Yes you did, and that was the post that sent me (as a newbie) into
dselect looking for newbiedoc but it isn't there. Some of the
followup posts make me see that is must be part of woody or sid.

Therein lies the problem. As a newbie I am learning on potato, but
the docs I need are in woody, If I could run woody reliably, I
probably wouldn't need the document - Catch22

That was why I was asking for a source elsewhere

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Re: galeon 1.0.2 raising windows

2002-01-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 06:20:13PM -0800, Jeffrey W. Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

 I got galeon 1.0.2 in today's unstable and it has this /tremendously/
 obnoxious behavior.  Any window that was opened with a link target (a
 href=/foo target=_new) will automatically raise itself when it
 gains the focus.  A R G H.  Mozilla proper does not have this
 behavior.
 
 Is anyone else seeing that?  I can't get to their mailing list
 archives right now.

AFAIK, this is an old Mozilla bug resulting from brain-deadedness on the
part of the Mozilla team which can't get its collective head (or ass)
around the idea that the user controls the program, not vice versa:

See:

http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59131
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72313
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72598
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72661
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73911

...among others.

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Re: Another Fetchmail Problem

2002-01-01 Thread Jijo Jose A
   POP3 connection to spininternet.com failed: name is valid but 
 has no IP address.
   Query status = 2 (SOCKET)
 
hi
make sure that ur pop3 incoming is spininternet.com.
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Must I have an `alias char-major-14 off' line?

2002-01-01 Thread Shaul Karl
My syslog has

Jan  1 11:29:47 rakefet modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module 
char-major-14
Jan  1 11:29:48 rakefet last message repeated 2 times

from time to time.

Although I have not tried it yet, I believe having the line

alias char-major-14 off

in /etc/modutils/aliases and running update-modules will eliminate it.

Yet I wonder why do I get these lines in the first place? In 
particular, I have the following in /etc/modules.conf:

# alias char-major-14 sb 
# options adlib_card io=0x388  # FM 
synthesizer
# options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
# options sbpcd  0x230,SoundBlaster

So why does modprobe -c has in its output the line:

alias char-major-14 soundcore

?

Another questions is about the frequency that these syslog messages get 
written. Is it done every time the shell is ringing the bell?
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Re: Some Crazy and Happier Ideas for 2002

2002-01-01 Thread Goswin Brederlow
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [] A spanking new hardware platform without any compromise to aged standards 
 is released and produced. Linux is the OS of choice together with BSD and 
 other Open OS's. Plain boxes with just a couple connectors, stylish, vector, 
 plain [] // Oh well, sick of that x86 like alley, gimme something cool //

Take a few million $, a big box, 32 EV8 Alpha cpus (to be build),
design a fast motherboard, write a free bios and i386 bios emulator
(to initialise pci cards) and sell them for $100 each.

[ Madness starts when you turn on a i386 :]

:)



VIM features

2002-01-01 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hello,

I would like to see more user feedback on Debian's settings of the
VIM editor. Currently, two important features are disabled in the
default configurations: Syntax highlighting and special intending
schemes. The question is: why?
Some (influent) people want to make VIM behave as the normal vi.
But does this make sense? VIM is either installed as the default
vi, nor does it have more priority in the alternatives entry.
Additionaly, many packages suggest nvi, so it is often installed as the
first vi editor and people often do not come in touch with vim.

NOTE: this is not a start of a new holy war. I do not ask for giving
vim's alternatives-entry a higher priority or so. I just want to use all
VIM's features when I initially install it, without looking into my
big config to enable intending or editing the vimrc file to enable
highlighting.

Gruss/Regards,
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apt-get segmentation fault

2002-01-01 Thread Hélio
Some time ago I started and aborted an upgrade of some packages via FTP. Now
everytime I try to install or update the list of available packages I get a
Segmentation Fault. dpkg --yet-to-unpack shows that there are 89 packages
marked for installation (many more than the five or six I really want to
install), so I guess this problem is being caused by some inconsistency in the
packages database. If so, is there any way to correct it?

Until we meet again...

Hélio Perroni Filho



Re: OT: Language War (Re: C Manual)

2002-01-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 09:15:26PM -0600, Richard Cobbe wrote:
 
  most of the segfaults are because of the resource allocation mistakes,
  not because of mistaken types... at last that's my impression.
 
 Resource allocation mistakes (at least, the kind that typically lead to
 seg faults) *are* type errors, from a certain point of view.
 
 Consider the following:
 
 char *a, *b;
 
 a = strdup(This is a sample string);
 b = a;
 
 free(a);
 
 /* Much code follows here, none of which modifies b. */
 
 printf(%s\n, b);

Uh, for one, this wont segfault.

Secondly, you can make this mistake with any language that allows
references (perl, python, and java all allow it). Just replace free()
with some other assignment that changes what a is, and ultimately you
change b, which referenced it, unintentionally.

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Re: OT: Language War (Re: C Manual)

2002-01-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 03:46:38PM -0800, Eric G. Miller wrote:
 
 Well, I dare you to remove 'ld' or 'libc.so' and see how many programs
 run ;-)  I think it's fair to characterize required language libraries
 as part of the run time system.  Whether or not a program is statically
 compiled is unimportant, as the language library still performs actions
 at runtime that your program depends on, and which your program
 could not function without.  Among those things, might be checking
 array accesses and raising exceptions for range errors...

I assume you mean ld.so.

The fact is that the C library is not needed in order to use C (else
libc.so would require itself in a neverending loop). You can easily
write C programs that use nothing from libc.so/libc.a. You can't write
java, perl and python that don't need their runtime.

The Linux kernel is an excellent example of a C program that is
self-contained.

Think of libraries as conveniences, not requirements.

I would also point out that java, python, php and perl runtime are
written in _C_. It's easy to characterize an interpreted language by
noting that it's runtime executable is written in a language other than
itself.

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Re: Kernels - The Debian Way

2002-01-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 07:34:08AM +, Keith O'Connell wrote:
 Serafim Zanikolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Only a few days ago I posted (part of) the description of the package
  newbiedoc:
  
  Current release includes:
  --- Compiling kernels the Debian way
 
 Yes you did, and that was the post that sent me (as a newbie) into
 dselect looking for newbiedoc but it isn't there. Some of the
 followup posts make me see that is must be part of woody or sid.

Try http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/.

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sawfish and sawfish-gnome

2002-01-01 Thread Rick Pasotto
Evidently I have both sawfish and sawfish-gnome installed on my system.
When I 'apt-get -s install sawfish' it removes sawfish-gnome and when I
'apt-get -s install sawfish-gnome' it removes sawfish.

Which should I do? I am running gnome and woody.

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Re: Must I have an `alias char-major-14 off' line?

2002-01-01 Thread dman
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 01:21:09PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote:
 
| Yet I wonder why do I get these lines in the first place? In 
| particular, I have the following in /etc/modules.conf:
| 
| # alias char-major-14 sb 
| # options adlib_card io=0x388  # FM 
| synthesizer
| # options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330
| # options sbpcd  0x230,SoundBlaster

These are not lines, they are comments.  They have no effect
whatsoever.  Remove the leading '#' character if you want them to be
actual lines instead of comments.

-D

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If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not
in us.
I John 1:8



Re: sawfish and sawfish-gnome

2002-01-01 Thread dman
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:18:17AM -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote:
| Evidently I have both sawfish and sawfish-gnome installed on my system.
| When I 'apt-get -s install sawfish' it removes sawfish-gnome and when I
| 'apt-get -s install sawfish-gnome' it removes sawfish.
| 
| Which should I do? I am running gnome and woody.

Install sawfish-gnome.  You shouldn't be able to have both installed
since they conflict with each other.  Both of them provide 'sawfish'
(the window manager) but the -gnome one also includes the gnome
configuration stuff.

-D

-- 

Microsoft encrypts your Windows NT password when stored on a Windows CE
device. But if you look carefully at their encryption algorithm, they
simply XOR the password with susageP, Pegasus spelled backwards.
Pegasus is the code name of Windows CE. This is so pathetic it's
staggering.

http://www.cegadgets.com/artsusageP.htm



Re: OT: Language War (Re: C Manual)

2002-01-01 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Tuesday, January 1, Ben Collins did write:

 On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 09:15:26PM -0600, Richard Cobbe wrote:
 
  Consider the following:
  
  char *a, *b;
  
  a = strdup(This is a sample string);
  b = a;
  
  free(a);
  
  /* Much code follows here, none of which modifies b. */
  
  printf(%s\n, b);
 
 Uh, for one, this wont segfault.

Perhaps, perhaps not.  That's the thing about C---the behavior in this
case is completely undefined.  Since printf is looking for a byte with a
value of zero, if it doesn't find such a byte before it walks off the
end of the process's allocated memory, it will segfault.

 Secondly, you can make this mistake with any language that allows
 references (perl, python, and java all allow it). Just replace free()
 with some other assignment that changes what a is, and ultimately you
 change b, which referenced it, unintentionally.

True.  That, however, is not a type error of the sort that I'm
describing.  And, in any case, the behavior of the program in that
situation is well-defined by the language specification.  This is *not*
the case with C or C++.

Richard



Re: Kernels - The Debian Way

2002-01-01 Thread Theo Wribe
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 08:59:50AM +, Keith O'Connell wrote:
 Hi,
 
 As I wander about sites, I periodically see references to a document in
 ascii/html/pdf format with a title along the lines of Kernels - The
 Debian Way, but I cannot seem to find it, and I think I would like to
 read it.
 
 If it exists could someone give me the url for it please?
 
 Keith
 
http://goats.gnue.org/~chillywilly/debian-kernel-mini-howto.txt - What
about this one? 



Re: OT: Language War (Re: C Manual)

2002-01-01 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Tuesday, January 1, dman did write:

 On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 09:27:36PM -0500, William T Wilson wrote:
  
 | Casting you can't really get away from nor do you really need to.  In fact
 | the more strongly typed the language is, the more casting you have to do.
 
 This statement is incorrect.

Agreed.

 The strength and staticness of typing are two independent properties.

Also agreed.

However, I think that the flexibility of a type system is more important
than its `strength' for removing the need for casts.

When do people use typecasts in C/C++?  In my experience, they tend to
happen in the following situations:

  1) conversions between data types (char and int, int and float, etc.)
 
  2) downcasts in a class hierarchy, as in Java.  (Note that `upcasts'
 aren't really casts: if B is a subclass of A, then an instance of B
 *is* an instance of A, no cast needed.)

  3) Accessing external data in a callback function.  Callbacks in C and
 C++ often take a void* parameter that points to data supplied by
 the programmer when he registers the callback; to access this data,
 it is necessary to cast it back to the original type.

How do more flexible type systems handle these?

  1) There are conversion functions.  Scheme does this with, e.g.,
 char-integer and integer-char, or exact-inexact and
 inexact-exact.  (The latter two convert between integers and
 floating point numbers.)  In many cases, this is what C's casts and
 C++'s static_cast really do; they just use a typecast notation.
 Many programmers tend to follow this trend when writing their own
 conversions, although I usually don't---implicit conversions worry
 me.

  2) As several people have pointed out, too many downcasts indicate a
 design flaw.  They are, however, useful in some situations, so (I
 believe) many advanced languages with a static type system support
 these.  However, as in Java, there's a run-time check that goes
 with it.  C++'s dynamic_cast gets this right.

  3) There are a variety of strategies here.  My personal favorite is
 to use first-class closures to implement callbacks; the external
 data is no longer supplied as a parameter but is simply available
 to the callback function due to normal scoping rules.  If you're
 using a language without closures, like C++ or Java, you can hack
 it up:

 class Closure
 {
 public:
 virtual void invoke(void) = 0;
 };

 Subclass this, implement invoke(), and supply a reference to the
 subclass instance as your callback function.  The data normally
 recognized by the void* is now private data members in the callback
 instance; no cast necessary.

 Alternatively, supply the callback system with enough smarts to
 handle types.  Instead of

void register_callback(void (* cb)(void *), void *data);

write something like

templatetypename T
void register_callback(void (* cb)(T), T data);

although most advanced languages typically use a more concise
mechanism for this sort of polymorphism.

With the exception of downcasts, casting is generally only necessary if
your type system isn't very expressive.

 I've heard that haskell has an even better type system, but I haven't
 had time to learn it yet.

Most of my experience with advanced programming languages has been in
Scheme, which (despite what many people believe) *is* strongly-typed and
type-safe, but it checks all types at runtime rather than compile time.
As a result, I'm not really up on languages with compile-time type
verifications systems, though I've been meaning to investigate them for
a while now.  At any rate: I've heard that ML's type system is easier to
learn than Haskell's; you may want to start there first.

Richard



Re: OT: Language War (Re: C Manual)

2002-01-01 Thread dman
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:34:25AM -0600, Richard Cobbe wrote:
| Lo, on Tuesday, January 1, dman did write:
| 
|  On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 09:27:36PM -0500, William T Wilson wrote:
|   
|  | Casting you can't really get away from nor do you really need to.  In fact
|  | the more strongly typed the language is, the more casting you have to do.
|  
|  This statement is incorrect.
| 
| Agreed.
| 
|  The strength and staticness of typing are two independent properties.
| 
| Also agreed.

Cool, I'm glad you know this stuff too!

| However, I think that the flexibility of a type system is more important
| than its `strength' for removing the need for casts.

This sounds like a reasonable statement.

| When do people use typecasts in C/C++?  In my experience, they tend to
| happen in the following situations:
  
|   2) downcasts in a class hierarchy, as in Java.  (Note that `upcasts'
|  aren't really casts: if B is a subclass of A, then an instance of B
|  *is* an instance of A, no cast needed.)

This is only needed with unintelligent compiler.  *You* know you have
a B at runtime, but the compiler doesn't so it whines and complains.
Thus you must cast the pointer/reference to appease the compiler.
The cast in java doesn't do anything else (aside from a runtime
verification as well)[1].

|   3) Accessing external data in a callback function.  Callbacks in C and
|  C++ often take a void* parameter that points to data supplied by
|  the programmer when he registers the callback; to access this data,
|  it is necessary to cast it back to the original type.

I don't know about C++ frameworks that do this, but C's type system
certainly requires this.  In Java the callback is a class instance
anyways (since functions are not objects, nor can you take the address
of one).

| How do more flexible type systems handle these?
 
|   2) As several people have pointed out, too many downcasts indicate a
|  design flaw.

I agree here.

|  They are, however, useful in some situations, so (I
|  believe) many advanced languages with a static type system support
|  these.  However, as in Java, there's a run-time check that goes
|  with it.  C++'s dynamic_cast gets this right.

Take CORBA for example.  With python, you just have an object with the
given methods.  No problem, no difficulty.  With java you have to use
a special narrow method to create an instance of a class that
implements the interface, but does so in terms of corba calls.  With
the inflexible type system java uses, the downcast-wannabe is
necessary (ugh!).

|   3) There are a variety of strategies here.  My personal favorite is
|  to use first-class closures to implement callbacks; the external
|  data is no longer supplied as a parameter but is simply available
|  to the callback function due to normal scoping rules.

This sounds good to me :-).

|  If you're using a language without closures, like C++ or Java,
|  you can hack it up:

In java you _have_ to hack it up like this (for example,
java.lang.Runnable).

| templatetypename T
| void register_callback(void (* cb)(T), T data);

That's not so bad, if you can stand the bloat this creates (C++
templates are expanded at compile time, thus you get one copy of this
function for each type it needs to work with).

|  I've heard that haskell has an even better type system, but I haven't
|  had time to learn it yet.
| 
| Most of my experience with advanced programming languages has been in
| Scheme, which (despite what many people believe) *is* strongly-typed and
| type-safe, but it checks all types at runtime rather than compile time.
| As a result, I'm not really up on languages with compile-time type
| verifications systems, though I've been meaning to investigate them for
| a while now.  At any rate: I've heard that ML's type system is easier to
| learn than Haskell's; you may want to start there first.

Ok, I might do that.  I've heard a lot about various languages on
comp.lang.python, and one particular guru (he's a C++ guru also)
frequently mentions Haskell's typeclasses in flamewars regarding type
systems.

-D

[1] with primitive types, I think java may do some conversion
(certainly with float-int it must), but I'm not totally sure (I
think with int-byte it doesn't, just truncates)

-- 

The Lord detests all the proud of heart.
Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.
Proverbs 16:7



tomcat and apache on woody

2002-01-01 Thread Rachel Andrew
Hi

yesterday i installed tomcat, apache, php and mysql from the testing sources 
onto my woody system. Apache seems to function fine and after some battling I 
got php and mysql to work however I still have a problem here with tomcat.

It will serve its examples from:

http://localhost:8081/examples

but I cannot get apache to serve .jsp files although I have the module 
loading into apache etc. without any errors. If I try to view a .jsp file 
served by apache i am prompted to download it, which makes me think 
mime-types.. or is tomcat still not working properly (the workers file 
installed by apt was all at windows defaults, so it is possible there are 
still other things not configured). I'm thinking it must be more an issue 
with apache or the module as tomcat does serve its examples correctly. I've 
copied my httpd.conf file below.

Rachel

##
## httpd.conf -- Apache HTTP server configuration file
##

#
# Based upon the NCSA server configuration files originally by Rob McCool.
#
# This is the main Apache server configuration file.  It contains the
# configuration directives that give the server its instructions.
# See URL:http://www.apache.org/docs/ for detailed information about
# the directives.
#
# Do NOT simply read the instructions in here without understanding
# what they do.  They're here only as hints or reminders.  If you are unsure
# consult the online docs. You have been warned.  
#
# After this file is processed, the server will look for and process
# /etc/apache/srm.conf and then /etc/apache/access.conf
# unless you have overridden these with ResourceConfig and/or
# AccessConfig directives here.
#
# The configuration directives are grouped into three basic sections:
#  1. Directives that control the operation of the Apache server process as a
# whole (the 'global environment').
#  2. Directives that define the parameters of the 'main' or 'default' server,
# which responds to requests that aren't handled by a virtual host.
# These directives also provide default values for the settings
# of all virtual hosts.
#  3. Settings for virtual hosts, which allow Web requests to be sent to
# different IP addresses or hostnames and have them handled by the
# same Apache server process.
#
# Configuration and logfile names: If the filenames you specify for many
# of the server's control files begin with / (or drive:/ for Win32), the
# server will use that explicit path.  If the filenames do *not* begin
# with /, the value of ServerRoot is prepended -- so logs/foo.log
# with ServerRoot set to /usr/local/apache will be interpreted by the
# server as /usr/local/apache/logs/foo.log.
#

### Section 1: Global Environment
#
# The directives in this section affect the overall operation of Apache,
# such as the number of concurrent requests it can handle or where it
# can find its configuration files.
#

#
# ServerType is either inetd, or standalone.  Inetd mode is only supported on
# Unix platforms.
#
ServerType standalone

#
# ServerRoot: The top of the directory tree under which the server's
# configuration, error, and log files are kept, unless they are specified
# with an absolute path.
#
# NOTE!  If you intend to place this on an NFS (or otherwise network)
# mounted filesystem then please read the LockFile documentation
# (available at URL:http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#lockfile);
# you will save yourself a lot of trouble.
#
# Do NOT add a slash at the end of the directory path.
#
ServerRoot /etc/apache

#
# The LockFile directive sets the path to the lockfile used when Apache
# is compiled with either USE_FCNTL_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT or
# USE_FLOCK_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT. This directive should normally be left at
# its default value. The main reason for changing it is if the logs
# directory is NFS mounted, since the lockfile MUST BE STORED ON A LOCAL
# DISK. The PID of the main server process is automatically appended to
# the filename. 
#
LockFile /var/lock/apache.lock

#
# PidFile: The file in which the server should record its process
# identification number when it starts.
#
PidFile /var/run/apache.pid

#
# ScoreBoardFile: File used to store internal server process information.
# Not all architectures require this.  But if yours does (you'll know because
# this file will be  created when you run Apache) then you *must* ensure that
# no two invocations of Apache share the same scoreboard file.
#
ScoreBoardFile /var/run/apache.scoreboard

#
# In the standard configuration, the server will process this file,
# srm.conf, and access.conf in that order.  The latter two files are
# now distributed empty, as it is recommended that all directives
# be kept in a single file for simplicity.  The commented-out values
# below are the built-in defaults.  You can have the server ignore
# these files altogether by using /dev/null (for Unix) or
# nul (for Win32) for the arguments to the directives.
#
#ResourceConfig /etc/apache/srm.conf
#AccessConfig /etc/apache/access.conf

#
# Timeout: 

Re: OT: Language War (Re: C Manual)

2002-01-01 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:12:09AM -0600, Richard Cobbe wrote:
 
  Secondly, you can make this mistake with any language that allows
  references (perl, python, and java all allow it). Just replace free()
  with some other assignment that changes what a is, and ultimately you
  change b, which referenced it, unintentionally.
 
 True.  That, however, is not a type error of the sort that I'm
 describing.  And, in any case, the behavior of the program in that
 situation is well-defined by the language specification.  This is *not*
 the case with C or C++.

Of course it is defined. It says that after you free() an allocation,
that the memory the pointer references is gone and using the pointer
afterwards is undefined.

Saying it is undefined is as good as defining the behavior. Assuming
anything after that point is broken.

-- 
 .--===-=-==-=---==-=-.
/   Ben Collins--Debian GNU/Linux  \
`  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  --  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  --  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  '
 `---=--===-=-=-=-===-==---=--=---'



Re: Multiple workspaces with Sawfish and Gnome, session management and navigation

2002-01-01 Thread Imre Vida
Hi.
 2) Keybindings to take me to each workspace directly.
I can't help you with session managment but the later is very easy 
to do:  you have to configure sawfish Bindings part

I think for a default setup, if you left double click you get the  
main menu of sawfish. There you will find under customize the 
Bindings.  From there setting up what you want is a piece of cake.
The only problem you could have there is to stop playing...

Enjoy
;-)

imre



NVidia GeForce MX problems - no screens found

2002-01-01 Thread Michael Dickey
Current (as of today) Woody system, NVidia GeForce MX AGP card,
Debian packaged nv driver. XF86cfg starts fine and allows me to build
the XF86Config file, but when I try to start the server I get the no
screens found error. /var/log/XFree86.0.log is below.


This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to XFree86@XFree86.Org and patches
submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: xx August 2001
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.13 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Tue Jan  1 11:23:56
2002
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??)
unknown.
(==) ServerLayout Default Layout
(**) |--Screen Default Screen (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Generic Monitor
(**) |   |--Device Generic Video Card
(**) |--Input Device Generic Keyboard
(**) Option XkbRules xfree86
(**) XKB: rules: xfree86
(**) Option XkbModel pc101
(**) XKB: model: pc101
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) XKB: layout: us
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse
(**) |--Input Device Generic Mouse
(WW) The directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to
unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
(==) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(--) using VT number 7

(WW) Cannot open APM
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
...
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: scanpci
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
(II) UnloadModule: scanpci
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is
set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 00x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 00x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 00x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is
set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 00xee00 - 0xefdf (0x1e0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 00xeff0 - 0xf7ff (0x810) MX[B]
(II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x06 (VGA_EN is
cleared)
(II) Bus 2 I/O range:
[0] -1 00xd000 - 0xd0ff (0x100) IX[B]
[1] -1 00xd400 - 0xd4ff (0x100) IX[B]
[2] -1 00xd800 - 0xd8ff (0x100) IX[B]
[3] -1 00xdc00 - 0xdcff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 00xed80 - 0xedff (0x80) MX[B]
(II) Bus 2 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 00xefe0 - 0xefef (0x10) MX[B]
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:31:0), (0,-1,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is
set)
(II) Bus -1 I/O range:
(II) Bus -1 non-prefetchable memory range:
(II) 

Re: Toms Root Boot ElTorito Image

2002-01-01 Thread csj
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 03:33, Penguin wrote:
 When I burn this onto a CD, does it matter if I burn track-at-once as
 opposed to CD-at-once or whatever; and when I use the boot options,
 should I choose the floppy image boot, hard disk image boot, or no
 disk emulation boot?

 Thx heaps.

Basically, you're talking of two operations. Your first question refers 
to the burning proper, which is handled by the program cdrecord. I'm 
not sure but for something as small as TRB, burning TAO vs. Disk At 
Once is a matter of your CDRW supporting the feature. TAO should 
however be fine for burning pure filesystems (as opposed to burning raw 
CD audio or VCD data or the like).

Your second question refers to the CD filesystem creation process, 
which is handled by the program mkisofs. Since TRB is a floppy image 
(something you can dump to a floppy disk) and the El Torito standard 
was devised as a workaround for putting such images onto CDROMs, the 
floppy boot is the recommended and perhaps only possible option. I 
don't even know if mkisofs will accept the other options.

-- 
Sir Isaac Newton:
If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.



Sound newbie ... what is OSS, ALSA, etc all about?

2002-01-01 Thread Randolph S. Kahle
I have a workstation with potato and adrian bunk's packages supporting
the 2.4.14 kernel.

I am running SMP with two processors on a P2B-DS motherboard. I have a
SoundBaster AWE64 card (ISA) that I would like to get working.

I started researching how to get sound working on my machine and I am
confused about the following:

* ALSA

* OSS

* PNP support (in the kernel or not)

It seems that I have to complete several configuration steps and get
several layers of software working to have sound function on my machine.

Would someone mind explaining to me (as a Sound newbie) which of what
appear to be competing sound system in Linux I should focus on.

Is there a question of applications / tools / games supporting one or
the other?

Am I better off getting a PCI-based sound card and not having any ISA
cards?

Thanks!

Randy






j2sdk

2002-01-01 Thread Kamil Jonca
Hello.

I have tried to install java plugin for mozilla from blackdown. Unfortunately
mozilla crashes. I think that is j2sdk bug (or glibc) because installing jmf
from blackdown causes errors:

   
Running /usr/sbin/jmfinit...
An irrecoverable stack overflow has occurred.

Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x4018073e
Function name=native_java_library__2os
Library=/usr/lib/j2re1.3/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so

Current Java thread:
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at java.lang.Throwable.fillInStackTrace(Native Method)
at java.lang.Throwable.init(Throwable.java:90)
at java.lang.Error.init(Error.java:46)
at java.lang.LinkageError.init(LinkageError.java:39)
at java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError.init(UnsatisfiedLinkError.java:38)
at 

Re: NVidia GeForce MX problems - no screens found

2002-01-01 Thread waynes
I had the same problem,  The setup doesn't set it up correctly.  Attached is a 
copy of my config file.  This doesn't set up hardware acceleration.  For that 
you need to install and compile the nvidia packages, goto dselect and search 
for nvidia.  It will install the packages and the text file in the packages 
tell how to configure them.  My attached config file will work without the 
nvidia packages.


By the way, also saw your post on the wlan list.  I also have the same problem 
with a netgear ma401 card.  When I figure something out I'll let you know.

Wayne

Michael Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ..
 Current (as of today) Woody system, NVidia GeForce MX AGP card,
 Debian packaged nv driver. XF86cfg starts fine and allows me to build
 the XF86Config file, but when I try to start the server I get the no
 screens found error. /var/log/XFree86.0.log is below.
 
 
 This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
 way.  Bugs may be reported to XFree86@XFree86.Org and patches
 submitted
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
 please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
 (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)
 
 XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
 (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
 Release Date: xx August 2001
   If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
   newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
   reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.13 i686 [ELF] 
 Module Loader present
 (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Tue Jan  1 11:23:56
 2002
 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
  (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??)
 unknown.
 (==) ServerLayout Default Layout
 (**) |--Screen Default Screen (0)
 (**) |   |--Monitor Generic Monitor
 (**) |   |--Device Generic Video Card
 (**) |--Input Device Generic Keyboard
 (**) Option XkbRules xfree86
 (**) XKB: rules: xfree86
 (**) Option XkbModel pc101
 (**) XKB: model: pc101
 (**) Option XkbLayout us
 (**) XKB: layout: us
 (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
 (**) |--Input Device Configured Mouse
 (**) |--Input Device Generic Mouse
 (WW) The directory /usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic does not exist.
   Entry deleted from font path.
 (**) FontPath set to
 unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
 (==) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
 (==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
 (--) using VT number 7
 
 (WW) Cannot open APM
 (II) Module ABI versions:
   XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
   XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4
   XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2
   XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
   XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2
 (II) Loader running on linux
 (II) LoadModule: bitmap
 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
 (II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project
   compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0
   Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
   ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
 (II) Loading font Bitmap
 (II) LoadModule: pcidata
 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
 (II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project
   compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
   ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
 (II) PCI: Config type is 1
 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
 ...
 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan
 (II) LoadModule: scanpci
 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
 (II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project
   compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0
   ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4
 (II) UnloadModule: scanpci
 (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
 (II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
 (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
 (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
 (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
 (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is
 set)
 (II) Bus 0 I/O range:
   [0] -1 00x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
 (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
   [0] -1 00x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
 (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
   [0] -1 00x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
 (II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is
 set)
 (II) Bus 1 I/O range:
 (II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
   [0] -1 00xee00 - 0xefdf (0x1e0) MX[B]
 (II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
   [0] -1 00xeff0 - 0xf7ff (0x810) MX[B]
 (II) Bus 2: bridge is at 

apache vhost configuration

2002-01-01 Thread Veit Waltemath
Hi list,

i want to have 2  name-based vhosts on my local router for internal use. ie
$domain.local.lan .
apache 1.3.22-5 / SID
my httpd.conf ( in extracts ):

Listen 80
BindAddress *
Port 80
ServerName cobra.local.lan
DocumentRoot /var/www
NameVirtualHost *
VirtualHost *
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DocumentRoot /serv/www/wsbt
ServerName wsbt.local.lan
ErrorLog /var/log/apache/vhost/wsbt-error.log
CustomLog /var/log/apache/vhost/wsbt-access.log common
/VirtualHost
VirtualHost *
»···ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
»···DocumentRoot /serv/www/peb
»···ServerName peb.local.lan
»···ErrorLog /var/log/apache/vhost/peb-error.log
»···CustomLog /var/log/apache/vhost/peb-access.log common
/VirtualHost

I don't know what is wrong with this. I can access the last VirtualHost,
sometimes the real one and not the first VirtualHost.
I get a Redirection limit for this URL exceeded. Loading aborted.
And this is a line from my access.log of the first vhost i cannot reach:
192.168.1.10 - - [01/Jan/2002:17:52:16 +0100] GET / HTTP/1.1 302 5

Thanks for any help.

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lp0 no longer works after I changed kernels; any ideas?

2002-01-01 Thread Luke Call

I got printing working, then must have broken it. Any diagnostic
tips will be appreciated. The details follow:

I started with a working debian stable system, built and installed a
2.4.17 kernel, and upgraded some packages to testing. I got printing
working with CUPS and my Epson Stylus C60 printer by following the
instructions
at the linuxprinting.org web site. All was well at that point; I
could print from gimp, emacs, and directly from the console to lp0.

Then (!) I did some vmware reconfiguration and installed a 2.4.5 kernel,
hoping to be able to also print under Win2k on top of linux. I didn't get
win2k to print with vmware, but for some reason now I can't print anything
at all from Linux either, no matter which kernel I boot with (2.4.5 or
2.4.17). The printer does work if I dual-boot right into win2k, so it
doesn't seem to be a hardware problem. In Linux now, even if I do
cat file.txt  lp0, nothing happens on the printer.

I have re-read the linuxprinting.org HOWTO and CUPS documentation and
tried to make sure everything is still set up as before, did a google
search and read some information I found there, but the
problem seems not to be with CUPS (I think), because when I print
something (say from gimp) and check with lpstat, I do see the print job
listed for my epson queue, then the CPU utilization jumps for
several seconds, then the lpstat output shows nothing. If I type cat
somefile.txt  lp0 I also get nothing.

Is there something else I could check to better troubleshoot this?
Any tips are very much appreciated; thanks!

Luke Call










X setup problem? connection to :0,0 refused by server

2002-01-01 Thread Paul Scott

When I attempt
emacs /etc/init.d/networking
from xterm I get
connection to :0,0 refused by server

It works from a virtual terminal.

I have found this error discussed in the various archives but haven't 
found a simple enough answer yet.


TIA,

Paul Scott



Re: j2sdk

2002-01-01 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone

Kamil Jonca wrote:

Hello.

I have tried to install java plugin for mozilla from blackdown. Unfortunately
mozilla crashes. 

I just made a symlink to the java plugin in the jre directory instead of 
directly
installing the plugin,inside the mozilla plugins directory. I think this 
workaround would work as it worked for me (Potato r4, Mozilla 0.9.7, Java2 SDK
1.3.1, Ximian GNOME 1.4).

Good luck.


Paolo Alexis Falcone

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Re: mkisofs USELESS #!@!#@*

2002-01-01 Thread Walter Hofmann
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:

 On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Penguin wrote:
 
  Anyone got an example command line for me to use mkisofs and cdrecord to get
  an ElTorito boot image thingo on a CD-R?
 
 If you can't figure it out, go apt-get install xcdroast and use the gui
 frontend.
 
  - /root is the directory where my boot image is, and is called
  tomsrtbt-1.7.361.ElTorito.288.img
 
 You've already got an isofs there.  Why are you trying to use mkisofs
 here?

This is a boot disk image. He wants to make a bootable CD-ROM.

Walter



Re: Sound newbie ... what is OSS, ALSA, etc all about?

2002-01-01 Thread csj
On Wednesday 02 January 2002 01:53, Randolph S. Kahle wrote:
 I started researching how to get sound working on my machine and I am
 confused about the following:

     * ALSA

     * OSS

You probably know what the letters stands for. The practical difference 
between the two is that OSS (the lite version in any case) is in the 
kernel source. ALSA is supposed to be the future of Linux sound, but as 
of now you have to go the extra mile/km of installing some extra 
packages. OSS, if you're lucky, should work out oft the box. To 
maintain compatibility with the OSS majority, ALSA has an OSS emulation 
layer. Use that if you can't get your favorite video player to work 
with ALSA proper (that is you can do videoplayer --audio OSS instead 
of videoplayer --audio ALSA).

-- 
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If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.



Re: fetchmailconf problem

2002-01-01 Thread Paul Mackinney
Thomas H. George,,, muttered:
 Test configuration fails with the message: fetchmailrc:6; parse error 
 at 123456 where 123456 is the password for the account.  From the man 
 page the 6 might refer to a permission problem but parse error suggests 
 to me that an all numeric password may not be allowed.  If the latter is 
 the problem is there a way around this or must I have the service 
 provider change my password?
 
My solution (not sure where I got this from, probably dman or one of 
Will Trillich's newbie hints) is to use a ~/.netrc file. This was 
developed for use w/ftp, but fetchmail will use it. The format is:

  machine dns-name login name password password

If the last line is

  default login anonymous password your email address

Then the command line ftp client will usually be able to connect to
arbitrary systems for anonymous ftp without prompting you for the
password.

I keep all of my pop account info in here, it's the only file on my
system that has passwords in plain text. Permissions on the file are 
400, I'm both the user and the group.

HTH, Paul
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: OT: Language War (Re: C Manual)

2002-01-01 Thread William T Wilson
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Richard Cobbe wrote:

  | Casting you can't really get away from nor do you really need to.  In fact
  | the more strongly typed the language is, the more casting you have to do.
  
  This statement is incorrect.
 
 Agreed.

I suppose I will agree as well, I was not meaning to include dynamically
typed languages in the original statement, I just didn't say that :}
Really it was not a very good statement to make, although in the original
context it wasn't so bad :}

 However, I think that the flexibility of a type system is more
 important than its `strength' for removing the need for casts.

I will go along with that as well.  In ML for instance (and other
languages as well) there is parametric polymorphism which give you a lot
of the flexibility of dynamic typing while still retaining much of the
error checking of static typing.  This is different from the
polymorphism found in C++ in which you can have virtual functions (which
still require the programmer to provide all the different implementations)
and inheritance (which only permits polymorphism within a very limited set
of types).  Although I do not know Haskell my understanding is that this
is how it works as well.

For instance you could have:
fun times x y = x * y;

You could then apply this function to either reals, ints, or one of each
and then it would return the appropriate type.  The compiler will trace
the execution through the function, deducing which are legal types from
the operators and functions used within the function.  In this way you do
not need to write a separate function for each combination of types your
functions might want to operate on, even though ML is a statically typed
language.

But because the checking is all done at compile-time you do not have much
risk of runtime errors due to type problems.



Re: mkisofs USELESS #!@!#@*

2002-01-01 Thread csj
On Wednesday 02 January 2002 03:12, Walter Hofmann wrote:
 On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
  On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Penguin wrote:
   Anyone got an example command line for me to use mkisofs and
   cdrecord to get an ElTorito boot image thingo on a CD-R?
 
  If you can't figure it out, go apt-get install xcdroast and use the
  gui frontend.
 
   - /root is the directory where my boot image is, and is called
   tomsrtbt-1.7.361.ElTorito.288.img
 
  You've already got an isofs there.  Why are you trying to use
  mkisofs here?

 This is a boot disk image. He wants to make a bootable CD-ROM.

To add: I don't think you can burn TRB without first MaKing the ISOFS 
(mkisofs) that will burned (cdrecord) to the cdrom.

-- 
Sir Isaac Newton:
If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.



RX mode?

2002-01-01 Thread wsa

Hi,

Just wondering here cause i can't remember seeing this bootmessage
before.
Had to reinstall linux cause, being a newbie, i made a complete mess of it:)

So i did a reinstall, which by default let me setup my first
NIC, eth0
eth1 NIC went into the kernel but wasn't configured.

So after having it all running again i added:
iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.0.1
netmask 255.255.255.0

to the interfaces file in /etc/network/

It all seems to work ok, but during boot i get
'setting RX mode to 1 addresses' on the eth1 NIC.

Is this normal, did i forget anything when setting up eth1?
And if it's normal is it a security risk.

Thanks
Willem




Re: is there any linux software that create animation

2002-01-01 Thread csj
On Tuesday 01 January 2002 07:10, a wrote:
 i wish such program is open source and animation file format is open
 source

If you'r talking about those web-page uglifiers, you can check out The 
Gimp. But the sort of gif that can do the trick is non-free. I remember 
reading something about a similar capability for png's, but all the 
dancing dogs I've seen so far are gif's.

-- 
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If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.



How to limit network traffic?

2002-01-01 Thread Andreas Maresch
Hello!

I have a small problem.
I want to download some (debian) cd's.
With my isdn-connection, one cd takes ~ 1 day to download.
That is no problem. The problem is, debian is so efficient in 
networking that the download uses 100% of the capability of my
internet connection.
I cannot establish another connection (e.g. browse a website, ...)
as long a download is active.
Here comes my question: Is it possible to throttle a connection?
Can I set a maximum download speed? Is it possible to set the speed
for a single application or only a general limit?


Questions over questions ;-D

Thanx in advance for the answers.


Andreas Maresch



Re: How to limit network traffic?

2002-01-01 Thread Petre Daniel

try to read about cbq (class based queue) or squid settings
good luck..

At 11:45 AM 1/1/02, Andreas Maresch wrote:

Hello!

I have a small problem.
I want to download some (debian) cd's.
With my isdn-connection, one cd takes ~ 1 day to download.
That is no problem. The problem is, debian is so efficient in
networking that the download uses 100% of the capability of my
internet connection.
I cannot establish another connection (e.g. browse a website, ...)
as long a download is active.
Here comes my question: Is it possible to throttle a connection?
Can I set a maximum download speed? Is it possible to set the speed
for a single application or only a general limit?


Questions over questions ;-D

Thanx in advance for the answers.


Andreas Maresch


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Re: mkisofs USELESS #!@!#@*

2002-01-01 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Walter Hofmann wrote:

 This is a boot disk image. He wants to make a bootable CD-ROM.

I understand that.  And xcdroast will still deal with that pretty
simply.

-- 
Baloo



Woody and cable modem router

2002-01-01 Thread james martinez
Ok I just got a cable modem router for Christmas so I can share the broadband 
connection with all the pc's in my house. One thing that I am having a 
problem with is when my Woody box is plugged into the router it can not find 
my ISP's mailserver.  Can anyone make some suggestions of what to look at to 
fix this. I am using Kmail as my e-mail client.



X setup problem? connection to :0,0 refused by server

2002-01-01 Thread Shawn Lamson
From: Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: X setup problem? connection to :0,0 refused by server 


When I attempt
emacs /etc/init.d/networking
from xterm I get
connection to :0,0 refused by server

It works from a virtual terminal.

Paul Scott

are you sure you didn't su to root before executing emacs?
maybe you are logged in as root in the virtual terminal.

If so:
#export DISPLAY=0:0 XAUTHORITY=/home/yourusername/.Xauthority enter
and try again.
HTH
shawn

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Trying to install Sun's Java2 Runtime

2002-01-01 Thread Pontus Edvardsson
Hi,

I'm on Woody, kernel 2.4.17 and have been trying to install the Java2 Runtime 
v1.3.1 from Sun without any luck...
I've followed their instructions; downloaded the autoextracting file and 
unpacked it in /usr/java as they suggest. It doesen't report any problems, 
but will not work either... Is this the only, or is there other java-runtimes 
available for Debian? How can I troubleshoot?

Thanks, Pontus



Re: ADAPTEC 2040U2W PROBLEM

2002-01-01 Thread Paul Mackinney
nate muttered:
 quote who=JM Vainio
  Hello!
 
  scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
  scsi host 0 channel 0 reset (pid17) timed out - trying harder
  scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
  scsi host 0 abort (pid17) timed out - resetting
  scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
  (scsi0:0:0:0) device reset, message buffer in use
  Is anyone here familiar with this kind of issues?
 yep i had that occur on my 2 intel ISP2150 servers.
 the workaround is to tell the driver not to reset
 the card, its a kernel option you type when you
 boot the system at the boot: prompt. navigate through
 the help screens and it will be there, its something
 like
 
 aic78xxx=no_reset
 
If your card is like mine, there are some options you can configure at
boot by typing Ctrl-A, one of them has something to do with allowing 
resets.

HTH, Paul
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Re: apache vhost configuration

2002-01-01 Thread Veit Waltemath
Sorry,
stupid me.
Forgotten to change some PATH, so it was a PHP issue.

need some more coffee.

cu Veit
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Re: How can I get the Euro symbol?

2002-01-01 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:48:37 -0600
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It might be worth having a look at the Euro-Char-Support mini-HOWTO
 (/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Euro-Char-Support/index.html if you
 have doc-linux-html installed, or somewhere on
 http://www.linuxdoc.org/). I'm not sure if it's good enough either - it
 was put together quite recently - but it does at least have the virtue
 of being concise.

Thanks for your help, Colin and Sean.

The document you mention is the problem. It does not help me at all. For
instance, it says that automatic configuration is possible with the
'lang-env' package. I cannot find any package with a name like 'lang-env'.
A search of Debian packages yields nothing.

Furthermore, paragraphs such as this are pretty incomprehensible to me:

Programs use the localisation environment in order to know both the
language and the charset being used. Currently there is no separation,
unless you are using UTF-8 from locale and representation. Environment
locales use both the language for example:

es_ES.ISO-8859-1
en_US.utf

What is .utf? Why are there certain files containing 'euro' but not
others. Why might I be inetersted in installing a Spanish language file. I
did enable the French Euro file, since I speak French, but this does not
appear to help. Do I need to enable it?

I have been using Linux for some years now, and have helped many with
their installations. If I am left confused and usable to add Euro support
to my box, what hope is there for others who are just starting along the
rocky Linux road?

I see no need to understand localisation issues. I want to be able to
choose my language/keyboard and do little more. I appreciate that adding
the Euro symbol is not as simple as it sounds, but somebody who knows how
to do it should be able to write a step-by-step crib sheet so that other
can get it working on their systems.

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Lost in apt-get

2002-01-01 Thread camilo
Hi,


Im still a little confused with some aspects of apt-get and would
like to see if someone could orient me a little, either pointing me to
some URLs , or answering briefly...

I dont quite get it, lets say i apt-get install a package... so it
fetches the necessary files, downloads, and installs them.. but,
where does apt-get leaves the binaries? i mean for example, i apt-
get'ed xmms , and it downloaded and installed.. but i have no clue
on how to launch it.

for example, Ximian Gnome too... im in the process of apt-get'ing
it... but after it downloads and installs, how will i launch it?

thanks...
Camilo

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Re: Woody and cable modem router

2002-01-01 Thread dman
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 10:09:44AM -0500, james martinez wrote:
| Ok I just got a cable modem router for Christmas so I can share the broadband 
| connection with all the pc's in my house. One thing that I am having a 
| problem with is when my Woody box is plugged into the router it can not find 
| my ISP's mailserver.  Can anyone make some suggestions of what to look at to 
| fix this. I am using Kmail as my e-mail client.

Trying 'host' and 'traceroute' to see what the IP address of the mail
server is and how far the connection to it gets.  Since you have a
broadband connection you could just setup exim to deliver mail
directly and then you won't need your ISP's mail server.

-D

-- 

A violent man entices his neighbor
and leads him down a path that is not good.
Proverbs 16:29



Re: Trying to install Sun's Java2 Runtime

2002-01-01 Thread dman
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 09:24:52PM +0100, Pontus Edvardsson wrote:
| Hi,
| 
| I'm on Woody, kernel 2.4.17 and have been trying to install the Java2 Runtime 
| v1.3.1 from Sun without any luck...
| I've followed their instructions; downloaded the autoextracting file and 
| unpacked it in /usr/java as they suggest. It doesen't report any problems, 
| but will not work either... Is this the only, or is there other java-runtimes 
| available for Debian? How can I troubleshoot?

My opinion is to forget those commercially distributed tarballs since
they are usually more complicated and you have no assurance that it
will work on _your_ system.  Instead, for java, go to blackdown.org
and add one of their mirrors to your apt sources.  The package is
'j2re1.3' or 'j2sdk1.3' depending on whether you want just the runtime
or the whole development bundle.

-D

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He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.
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Re: X setup problem? connection to :0,0 refused by server

2002-01-01 Thread Paul Scott

Shawn Lamson wrote:

From: Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: X setup problem? connection to :0,0 refused by server 



When I attempt
emacs /etc/init.d/networking

from xterm I get



connection to :0,0 refused by server



It works from a virtual terminal.


are you sure you didn't su to root before executing emacs?
maybe you are logged in as root in the virtual terminal.



I'm sorry.  I left out that most important piece of information.  Yes I 
su'd to root in X and from the VT.  (I think I wouldn't have permission 
to change that file if I wasn't root).




If so:
#export DISPLAY=0:0 XAUTHORITY=/home/yourusername/.Xauthority enter
and try again.



Thanks for your answer to my wrong question.

Using emacs (as root) to configure my network works on the machine I am 
on now but not the one I was asking about.


Now, any answers to the right question?

TIA,

Paul



Re: Lost in apt-get

2002-01-01 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 01-Jan-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 
 Im still a little confused with some aspects of apt-get and would 
 like to see if someone could orient me a little, either pointing me to 
 some URLs , or answering briefly...
 
 I dont quite get it, lets say i apt-get install a package... so it 
 fetches the necessary files, downloads, and installs them.. but, 
 where does apt-get leaves the binaries? i mean for example, i apt-
 get'ed xmms , and it downloaded and installed.. but i have no clue 
 on how to launch it.
 
 for example, Ximian Gnome too... im in the process of apt-get'ing 
 it... but after it downloads and installs, how will i launch it?
 

if the application is X based, it should appear in your window manager's menu. 
xmms is under Apps-Sound.



Re: ADAPTEC 2040U2W PROBLEM

2002-01-01 Thread JM Vainio

- Original Message - 
From: nate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: ADAPTEC 2040U2W PROBLEM


 quote who=JM Vainio
  Hello!
 
  scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
  scsi host 0 channel 0 reset (pid17) timed out - trying harder
  scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
  scsi host 0 abort (pid17) timed out - resetting
  scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
  (scsi0:0:0:0) device reset, message buffer in use
 
  Is anyone here familiar with this kind of issues?
 
 yep i had that occur on my 2 intel ISP2150 servers.
 the workaround is to tell the driver not to reset
 the card, its a kernel option you type when you
 boot the system at the boot: prompt. navigate through
 the help screens and it will be there, its something
 like
 
 aic78xxx=no_reset
 


Well, I found that option and I tried it. The result was that the installer did 
recognize the SCSI bus and every disk connected to it. But after that, the 
installer still went on resetting the bus (despite the fact that I had told the 
driver not to reset). That was to happen after the partition check of the 
SCSI disk 0. The installer did recognize the physical capacity and other 
harware capacities of the SCSI0 hard disk (such as the speed: 80.0Mb/s, and so 
on). But then there came the message:


partition check: 
sda:sda1scsi:abort command due to timeout: pid 19, scsi0  [or something like 
that]


and after that, there was the same old message:


(scsi0:0:15:-1) unexpected busfree, LASTPHASE=0xa0, SEQADDR=0x167
scsi host 0 abort (pid 17) timed out - resetting


And then there were endless repetitions of resetting, just as before.

Now, I tried to boot the installer CD with no SCSI disk connected to the SCSI 
card. In that configuration (the SCSI card only, and the mainboard with IDE 
disks) the installer did proceed. Thus it means that I could probably install 
the SCSI card only, but without installing any SCSI devices. And as you see, 
this is a fatal problem if I am trying to install the operating system with 
some SCSI mass storages, especially if I try to install the system into a SCSI 
hard disk...

As I am not quite familiar with Linux, I have tried to install many different 
Linux distributions into my SCSI partition. I have not managed to install Linux 
Mandrake either, but in the Mandrake case the problem was that the installer 
hanged during the phase when it was time to choose the data security level. The 
strange thing was that even in that case I did manage to install the operating 
system into the IDE partition, but only if there was no SCSI card connected 
into the PCI slot.

In the Debian case, I manage to install the SCSI card itself (and it is to 
admit that that is some progress...:-), but I still do not manage to install 
the operating system if any kind of SCSI devide is present. How to proceed...?


Regards: Janne M. Vainio, Helsinki, Finland







Where are the man pages for the C library?

2002-01-01 Thread Jor-el
Hi,

I can find the man pages for things like strcpy, printf, and
things like that on my system. I installed the glibc6-doc but that only
had info documentation in it. Where are these man pages to be found?

Thanks,
Jor-el



Re: ADAPTEC 2040U2W PROBLEM

2002-01-01 Thread JM Vainio

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Mackinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: ADAPTEC 2040U2W PROBLEM


 nate muttered:
  quote who=JM Vainio
   Hello!
  
   scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
   scsi host 0 channel 0 reset (pid17) timed out - trying harder
   scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
   scsi host 0 abort (pid17) timed out - resetting
   scsi bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
   (scsi0:0:0:0) device reset, message buffer in use
   Is anyone here familiar with this kind of issues?
  yep i had that occur on my 2 intel ISP2150 servers.
  the workaround is to tell the driver not to reset
  the card, its a kernel option you type when you
  boot the system at the boot: prompt. navigate through
  the help screens and it will be there, its something
  like
  
  aic78xxx=no_reset
  
 If your card is like mine, there are some options you can configure at
 boot by typing Ctrl-A, one of them has something to do with allowing 
 resets.
 
 HTH, Paul


Well, please inform me which option you mean. I think I have tried quite many 
of them...:-) But if you know the one, it might help.

And the card is Adaptec 2940u2w.



Reagards:

Janne M. Vainio, Helsinki, Finland



Re: Exim and frozen error mails

2002-01-01 Thread Stephen Gran
Thus spake Christopher Wolf:
 My exim tends to gather frozen messages caused when a fake email address 
 tries to deliver to a no-longer existing email address on my domain.  It 
 generates an error response saying that user does not exist, but it cannot 
 deliver the error to the fake user nor the intended address on my server, 
 so it just freezes the message.
 
 Is there any way to get it to just throw these away, even if it's just 
 after some amount of time?
   A message remains in the spool directory until it is  com­
   pletely  delivered  to  its  recipients  or  to  an  error
   address, or until it is deleted by an administrator or  by
   the user who originally created it. In cases when delivery
   cannot proceed - for example, when a message  can  neither
   be delivered to its recipients nor returned to its sender,
   the message is marked 'frozen' on the spool, and  no  more
   deliveries  are attempted. The administrator can thaw such
   messages when the problem has been corrected, and can also
   freeze individual messages by hand if necessary.
exim -bp will list queue
exim -Mrm message-id will clear frozen messages
man exim for more - long but well worth the read.
HTH, 
Steve
--
Never be afraid to tell the world who you are.
-- Anonymous


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Re: How can I get the Euro symbol?

2002-01-01 Thread dman
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 08:30:53PM +, Phillip Deackes wrote:
| On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:48:37 -0600
| Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 
|  It might be worth having a look at the Euro-Char-Support mini-HOWTO
|  (/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Euro-Char-Support/index.html if you
|  have doc-linux-html installed, or somewhere on
|  http://www.linuxdoc.org/). I'm not sure if it's good enough either - it
|  was put together quite recently - but it does at least have the virtue
|  of being concise.
| 
| Thanks for your help, Colin and Sean.
| 
| The document you mention is the problem. It does not help me at all. For
| instance, it says that automatic configuration is possible with the
| 'lang-env' package. I cannot find any package with a name like 'lang-env'.
| A search of Debian packages yields nothing.

It is 'language-env'.  According to 'apt-cache policy' I don't think
it is in potato.  (potato is _really_ _really_ old)

| Furthermore, paragraphs such as this are pretty incomprehensible to me:
| 
| Programs use the localisation environment in order to know both the
| language and the charset being used. Currently there is no separation,
| unless you are using UTF-8 from locale and representation. Environment
| locales use both the language for example:
| 
| es_ES.ISO-8859-1
| en_US.utf

I believe this line is wrong, but I don't know for sure.  I'm using
en_US.UTF-8.

| What is .utf?

Universal Transformation Format

It is a fancy name for describing a method to store multibyte
characters (unicode) in a file (where bytes are the only data type).

| Why are there certain files containing 'euro' but not others.

Why are there certain files containing g but not others?  The euro
is just another character.

| Why might I be inetersted in installing a Spanish language file.

If you use spanish.

| I did enable the French Euro file, since I speak French, but this
| does not appear to help. Do I need to enable it?

What is the French Euro file? 

| I see no need to understand localisation issues. I want to be able to
| choose my language/keyboard and do little more.

Choosing your language _is_ localisation!

| I appreciate that adding the Euro symbol is not as simple as it
| sounds, but somebody who knows how to do it should be able to write
| a step-by-step crib sheet so that other can get it working on their
| systems.

As I mentioned above, the euro is just another character.
Unfortunately, people need/want more than the 127 characters in the
US-ASCII character set (aka charset).  The euro, for example, is not
part of US-ASCII.  Since there are 127 additional values not taken by
US-ASCII, some ISO committee(s) have created additional charsets to
add some characters.  These charsets are supersets of US-ASCII (that
is, the first 127 characters are identical to US-ASCII) and the
remaining 127 characters are characters useful to a given region
(locale).  ISO-8859-1 contains many umlaut characters that are common
in Western European languages.  If you set your locale to ISO8859-1
then you can store those umlauts in plain text files and share them
with other people who are also using ISO8859-1.  (think of a charset
as a text/file format.  jpg and png both store images, but in
different formats)  Likewise ISO8859-2 has characters that are found
in Eastern European languages.

The advantage to these encodings is that they are all single-byte
(char == 8 bits == 1 byte).  This means that existing programs can
deal with them more-or-less reasonably, even if they don't understand
the locale.  The problem is that if you deal with multiple languages
(eg, French and Romanian) on a regular basis, not only is it a PITA to
keep adjusting settings, but you can't put charcters from both
encodings into the same file.  Thus Unicode was developed.  It is a
16-bit (I think it is really 32-bit, but only the lower 16 bits have
characters specified) character set that can represent the alphabet of
most languages simultaneously.  Unicode presents a problem though --
each unicode character requires at least 2 bytes in memory, but the C
'char' type is only guaranteed to be 1 byte.  In addition, it is not
wholly backwards compatible with US-ASCII.  The problem is that
applications must be developed with this in mind so that they can
handle it properly.  Various encodings of Unicode have been developed
to store unicode characters in files.  UTF-8 is the most well-known,
and it is backwards compatible with US-ASCII (for the US-ASCII subset
of Unicode).  Thus if you use UTF-8 and stick to just the US-ASCII
subset where the additional characters are not needed or not
understood there is no problem.

Now, how does all this relate to the euro?  Well, the euro is not part
of the US-ASCII charset.  Nor is it part of ISO8859-1.  However it is
part of Unicode (character 0x20AC).  To make use of the euro you must
use the Unicode charset and choose one of its encodings (UTF-8) for
storing files.  Now read the Unicode HOWTO for some more 

Re: Where are the man pages for the C library?

2002-01-01 Thread dman
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 02:50:30PM -0600, Jor-el wrote:
| Hi,
| 
| I can find the man pages for things like strcpy, printf, and things
| like that on my system. I installed the glibc6-doc but that only had
| info documentation in it. Where are these man pages to be found?

manpages-dev

-D

-- 

Bugs come in through open windows. Keep Windows shut!



Re: Lost in apt-get

2002-01-01 Thread dman
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 02:41:26PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Hi,
| 
| Im still a little confused with some aspects of apt-get and would
| like to see if someone could orient me a little, either pointing me to
| some URLs , or answering briefly...
| 
| I dont quite get it, lets say i apt-get install a package... so it
| fetches the necessary files, downloads, and installs them.. but,
| where does apt-get leaves the binaries? i mean for example, i apt-
| get'ed xmms , and it downloaded and installed.. but i have no clue
| on how to launch it.

This has nothing to do with understanding apt-get.  apt-get installed
the package.  The package specifies what files there are and where
they go, etc.

To see what files a package has installed,

dpkg -L package name

for xmms you'll see /usr/bin/xmms (and /usr/bin is in your PATH).

| for example, Ximian Gnome too... im in the process of apt-get'ing
| it... but after it downloads and installs, how will i launch it?

I use the gnome packages in woody.  GNOME is not a single application,
so it would take a bit more RTFM-ing to know how to start/use it.
Just put exec gnome-session in ~/.xsession to start gnome when you
log in (via [xgkw]dm) or when you run startx (if you login to a
console).


Understanding how to start/run/use a program is not an issue of
understanding apt-get, but an issue of reading that programs manuals
to learn how to use it.

HTH,
-D

-- 

He who finds a wife finds what is good
and receives favor from the Lord.
Proverbs 18:22



Re: Where are the man pages for the C library?

2002-01-01 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 14:50:30 -0600, Jor-el wrote:
   I can find the man pages for things like strcpy, printf, and
 things like that on my system. I installed the glibc6-doc but that only
 had info documentation in it. Where are these man pages to be found?

http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents will quickly lead you
to discover manpages-dev.

HTH,
Ray
-- 
Give a man a fire, he's warm for a day.  Set a man on fire, he's warm for
the rest of his life.



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