Re: Kmplayer package

[Slaanesh]

Le lundi 1 Mars 2004 00:16, Carl Fink a écrit :
> A search at apt-get.org finds three.
But all the matches don't work :(


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Re: Kmplayer package

[John Foster]

Slaanesh wrote:

Hi,

Does somebody know if a debian package of kmplayer is available 
somewhere ?

Slaanesh

 

Try some of these: I use the unstable ones currently uncommented

# KDE3
#deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3 ./
#deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody ./
#deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.4/Debian/woody ./
#deb 
ftp://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.1/Debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386 
./
#deb-src http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3 ./
#deb-src http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian/woody ./
#deb-src http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.4/Debian/woody ./
#deb http://wh9.tu-dresden.de/kde3/karolina ./ #compiled with 
gcc2.95
#deb-src http://wh9.tu-dresden.de/kde3/karolina ./#compiled with gcc2.95
#deb http://shakti.ath.cx/debian/kde3.1 ./
#deb-src http://shakti.ath.cx/debian/kde3.1 ./
#==
deb 
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386 
./
deb 
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386 ./
deb 
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian/dists/unstable/non-free/binary-i386 
./
deb 
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian-non-US/dists/unstable/non-US/contrib/binary-i386 
./
deb 
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian-non-US/dists/unstable/non-US/main/binary-i386 
./
deb 
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian-non-US/dists/unstable/non-US/non-free/binary-i386 
./
#deb-src 
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386 
./
#deb-src 
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386 ./
#deb-src 
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian/dists/unstable/non-free/binary-i386 
./
#deb-src 
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian-non-US/dists/unstable/non-US/contrib/binary-i386 
./
#deb-src 
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian-non-US/dists/unstable/non-US/main/binary-i386 
./
#deb-src 
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/debian-non-US/dists/unstable/non-US/non-free/binary-i386 
./

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Re: exim problem

[Clive Menzies]

On (29/02/04 22:12), Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 03:36:05PM +1100, Ivan Wills wrote:
> > Recently the server has started to take about 30s before sending a email 
> > message. (It never did this before)
> > It does not matter what the size of the message is. It seems like the 
> > server is waiting for the 30s before listening to the client.
> > 
> > Does any one have any suggestions as to why this might occur or 
> > suggestions on how to solve the problem?
> 
> Have you made any recent changes?  Perhaps it's queueing your mail
> before sending for some reason?
I had this problem, although I recall the delay was nearer a minute.
Are you using mutt?  In your .muttrc file you need:
set sendmail_wait=-1

Mine was previously set to 0.  After the change everything was fine.

HTH

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Re: Error

[Bill Marcum]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 11:12:42PM +, Pedro M. wrote:
> Using synaptic appears the next error :
> 
> perl:warming : setting locale failed.
> perl: warning:Please check that your locale settings :
> 
> What can I do ??.
> 
dpkg-reconfigure locales

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Re: exim problem

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On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 03:36:05PM +1100, Ivan Wills wrote:
> Recently the server has started to take about 30s before sending a email 
> message. (It never did this before)
> It does not matter what the size of the message is. It seems like the 
> server is waiting for the 30s before listening to the client.
> 
> Does any one have any suggestions as to why this might occur or 
> suggestions on how to solve the problem?

Have you made any recent changes?  Perhaps it's queueing your mail
before sending for some reason?

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Re: OT: establish private network (no wires)

[Jacob Anawalt]

Brett Carrington wrote:
On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 06:54:54PM +0100, Karsten Bolding wrote:

Hello 

I'm seeking advice on a technical matter. I want to establish a
private (wireless) network in an area of say 5x5 km2. In this area there
are a number of vehicles moving around and each of the vehicles should
constantly - every second - be updated about the position of the other
vehicles (obtained via GPS). In addition to the position other types of
data might need to be exchanged/distributed as well. 
Each of the vehicles will have a laptop onboard which will be used for
processing the information obtained from the other vehicles.
Since it is not possible to cover the area with normal wireless access points 
I'm seeking another carrier of the signal. GSM/GPRS is not really an 
option either due to the cost of having around 25 phones running 24/7. 
Does anybody know of another technical solution which I can use to create 
such a network?
Regular "Wireless access points" (as in 802.11x) can _absolutely_ cover
this distance. All you need is a good antenna and powerful transmitter.
In America you need a license to transmit as very high powers so you
should check with your local govt. I bet if you looked around your neck
of the woods for amateur radio operators they'd be glad to explain how
to do this. There are other solutions too, like short wave radio or the
like. Using regular commodity WiFi however will be easiest to integrate
with laptops though.

If this didn't sound so much like a business setup and you weren't 
talking about an private (encrypted) wlan, I'd point to [1] APRS for the 
GPS requirement and [2] HAM 802.11 for the networking.

It sounds like you need some other wireless technology that you can get 
an FCC radio license for or work out an arrangement with any wireless 
ISP in your area. Maybe you could set up a second business to be a 
wireless ISP in your area. :)

There is an 'airnet' where I live that covers at least twenty square 
miles. Usually they set us up with a directional antenna for the best 
transmit/receive. There might be omnidirecional antennas that would work 
well vehicle mounted if the ISP's antenna was somewhere inside of the area.

You've probably already looked into these options though.

[1] http://www.aprs.net/
[2] http://www.arrl.org/hsmm/project.html
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VIA Rhine (NIC) as module okay, but compiled into 2.4.24 no good?

[Roger Chrisman]

Hi,

On a server on my LAN, I had Woody and then Testing (installed from CD#1 + 
Net) connecting fine to my LAN (DHCP) with the bf24 (kernel 2.4.18) from the 
Woody CD with VIA Rhine, my NIC's driver, added as kernel module.

But when I compiled my own kernel 2.4.24 (from the .deb kernel source) and 
compiled VIA Rhine, my NICs driver, into the kernel instead of adding it as 
module, and boot into the new kernel, the network is down and I can't seem to 
get it to come up.

# ifup eth0
return no error message.

# ping r 
(r is my desktop box and is entered in this server's /etc/hosts)
Network is unreachable

# ifdown eth0
cat: /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid: No such file or directory

Is there a way I can verify that VIA Rhine NIC driver is compiled into my 
kernel?

(I looked in the .config that I used to compile the kernel and it *is* listed 
there as the first of two VIA Rhine options. The second VIA Rhine option is 
for sound or something and I did not chose it.)

Any idea what I have missed?

Thanks,

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Re: exim problem

[Vineet Kumar]

* Ivan Wills ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040229 20:49]:
> Recently the server has started to take about 30s before sending a email 
> message. (It never did this before)
> It does not matter what the size of the message is. It seems like the 
> server is waiting for the 30s before listening to the client.

I'd guess exim is trying to do an ident lookup with the client, but the
client is silently dropping the ident requests.  (Bad packet filter!)

"30 seconds" smells like a timeout; either ident or reverse DNS.

This happens with every client?  Is there a packet filter on the server
side?  Or a DNS misconfiguration?

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Re: Question RE IDE Tape Drives

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On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 at 10:34:25PM -0500, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
> > I am looking to install a Seagate Travan 10GB/20GB IDE Tape drive into a
> > Debian box.
> > 
> > My question is, what kernel support would one build into the kernel in
> > order to get such a drive working?
> > 
> > My first thought would be to use the IDE-SCSI Emulation and then enable
> > the SCSI Tape support.  After that use the mt tools as if it were a SCSI
> > Tape device.  Would this work?
> 
> This is correct.  The ide-tape driver was broken starting several
> years ago for this tape drive.  I have it on my todo list to check the
> ide-tape driver again, but haven't gotten to it. The ide-scsi driver
> will give errors but they are benign.  Save and restore a file to
> check/convince yourself.

Thanks Jeffery,

One more question.  Is there an IDE drive that would work better with
Linux than the Travan?

I am looking for an IDE/Tape Backup solution that hopefully works with
the standard tools.  I am not much into the FTape technologies.  We need
something that would hold several GB.

If anyone knows of a better IDE drive than the Travan I would appreciate
some feedback.

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Re: tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Travis Crump wrote:

> From my tests that error doesn't appear to be fatal and can be ignored.

My version of tar is (GNU tar) 1.13.25.

Yes, I also think that this error can be ignored because the rest of the
archive is correctly untared.

But to be honest I cannot find an explicit rule neither in the manpages nor
in the info file which says that you have to cd to a superior directory to
archive a directory. The only thing I found was in the info gnu (it was the
tutorial):

   [...]
 To archive a directory, first move to its superior directory.  If you
 have followed the previous instructions in this tutorial, you should
 type:
   [...]
 This will put you into the directory which contains `practice',
 i.e. your home directory.  Once in the superior directory, you can
 specify the subdirectory, `practice', as a file name argument.  To
 store `practice' in the new archive file `music.tar', type:
 If you give `tar' a command such as
 $ tar --create --file=foo.tar .
 `tar' will report `tar: ./foo.tar is the archive; not dumped'.  This
 happens because `tar' creates the archive `foo.tar' in the current
  directory before putting any files into it.
   [...]

But how can I move to the superior directory of / ?

Thanx to all who have answered and spent their time helping me.

I do now:
tar cvzf /mnt/somehow/test.tar.gz . --exclude=mnt --exclude=proc

So, thanx to all

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Re: DVD-R(W)

[Gary Sandine]

On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 21:26, Jeff Elkins wrote:
> Is there OSS software out there that works with DVD-R(W)?

growisofs works for this, too (works together with k3b if you want a
drag and drop GUI):

http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/-RW/



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Re: Initrd

[Paul E Condon]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 08:45:17PM -0800, Jason D. Berg wrote:
> I'm compiling a new kernel and I need to create a new initrd for it. I
> don't want to go through and manually copy all the files (especially the
> modules). Is there any easy way to do it? Any debian package? Any script
> that you just threw together?
> 

Use make-kpkg to oversee the kernel compile, and use the --initrd option.
See the man page for details.

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Re: Netscape segmentation fault

[Jacob Anawalt]

Marie Regine SAPIR wrote:
Hello,

My bank is driving me crazy... I can't get their online banking
> system with any of the browsers I regularly use (galeon, opera,
> mozilla). They absolutely want Netscape 4.7 (or IE, but that's
> not really an option).

What bank is this? What's the url? Have you complained to them, telling 
them that you would like support for Opera and Mozilla or a new bank?

Have you tried 'faking it'? There was a thread not too long ago where 
someone mentioned that you can set the browser tag in Opera so it looks 
like NS4. The two ways I can think of off of the top of my head for 
identifying a browser are looking at the browser tag or running 
javascript to check for some functions. Maybe there is a need for 
Mozilla to have a 'pretend I'm NS4' mode.



> However, after uninstalling, there's
still lot's of stuff left: the whole directory /usr/lib/netscape/
(pointed to by /usr/bin/X11/netscape -> /etc/alternatives/netscape
-> /usr/lib/netscape/477/communicator/communicator-smotif) is still there...
$ su
Password: 
# dpkg -P netscape netscape-smotif-477 communicator
dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove netscape which isn't installed.
dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove netscape-smotif-477 which isn't installed.
dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove communicator which isn't installed.
How about purging communicator-smotif as well since that is what your 
alternatives is pointing too for 'netscape'.



Can someone tell me how I go about reparing Netscape?

Sorry. I don't know if I can help you with that directly. I can give you 
some pointers on the package management though.

Try dselect or even better aptitude. Use their search features to find 
all the installed netscape and communicator packages installed and purge 
them all. Then re-install.

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Re: Any reason why mounting /tmp as tmpfs would be a bad idea?

[Vineet Kumar]

* Chris Metzler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040229 20:52]:
> Given that /tmp gets cleaned on reboot anyway, I can't think of a reason
> why it'd be a bad idea to use a tmpfs filesystem for /tmp.  But the fact
> that I can't think of one doesn't mean there isn't.
> 
> So . . .any reason why this would be a bad idea?

Well, on a system with plenty of disk but a RAM shortage, it might take
away a more scarce resource.  Still, this effect should be minimal,
since tmpfs uses paging to swap unused data to disk as needed.

I've been using tmpfs on /tmp on many systems for a long time and have
noticed no ill effects.  But like you say, that I haven't noticed any
doesn't mean that there aren't any, or especially that there's no
potential for any.

Have you read filesystems/tmpfs.txt in the kernel docs?

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Any reason why mounting /tmp as tmpfs would be a bad idea?

[Chris Metzler]

I'm doing some audio work with JACK.  For performance reasons, the
developers recommend having JACK use a tmpfs filesystem for its
scratch work.  Normally, JACK does its work in /tmp.  One possibility
is to rebuild JACK from source, with a configuration option to use
a different location; and then create a tmpfs filesystem at that
location.  But a simpler option is to just make /tmp a tmpfs filesystem.
The JACK developers suggest either.

Given that /tmp gets cleaned on reboot anyway, I can't think of a reason
why it'd be a bad idea to use a tmpfs filesystem for /tmp.  But the fact
that I can't think of one doesn't mean there isn't.

So . . .any reason why this would be a bad idea?

Thanks,

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problems with tty's (especially tty3)

[Lorenzo Prince]

I am having problems with my tty's.  For some reason, most of my tty's, except
tty1, are slow to recycle after logout.  Tty3 is especially slow, and sometimes
doesn't recycle at all.  It just hangs and I get an error message every 5minutes
that says:

INIT: Id "3" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes

I can't deallocvt the tty because it says tty3 is busy.  I have also tried
manually running getty on tty3 and even changing runlevels, both to no avail.
I am running the getty in util-linux version 2.12-6 in Debian unstable.  Does
anyone know how I can fix this problem once it occurs, and more importantly, how
I can keep it from even happening?

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Initrd

[Jason D. Berg]

I'm compiling a new kernel and I need to create a new initrd for it. I
don't want to go through and manually copy all the files (especially the
modules). Is there any easy way to do it? Any debian package? Any script
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exim problem

[Ivan Wills]

Hi
I am using Exim 3.35-1woodie2 under Debian Stable.
Recently the server has started to take about 30s before sending a email 
message. (It never did this before)
It does not matter what the size of the message is. It seems like the 
server is waiting for the 30s before listening to the client.

Does any one have any suggestions as to why this might occur or 
suggestions on how to solve the problem?

Thanks
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Re: faster start

[Jacob Anawalt]

Gunnar wrote:
The whole idea is to have a Linux system with no GUI if you like, so
almost every server app is started before GUI.
Yes, but why can't the mailserver start in the background or somewhere 
else? Why do I have to wait for it to finish it's startup? 
I wan't to login (without X) as fast as possible. 
I've thought the same would be nice, but it has yet to bother me enough 
to work on switching things around. Some services I don't use often but 
I want them there to turn on if I do need to use them like the apple 
file sharing service which takes a while to load. Others I use 
occasionally but I am pretty sure that they aren't required before X 
like postfix. I should fix the links for the netatalk, but doing so 
feels like such a kludge compared to "chkconfig --levels 2345 netatalk 
off" that I put off the task.

Some ideas I was going to play with:

* Change the order of items in your preferred run level so that X 
(gdm,kdm,xdm) is higher in the start listing by changing the NN value. 
Be sure you start required services like *log, hotplug, alsa and fam. 
Depends on what services you need. I don't doubt that my list has some 
critical holes.

* Group extra but not always used items to start in the ondemand a,b and 
c groups and call those groups when I need the service then just leave 
them running until I shut down or stop each service by hand.

* Figure out if I can start some of the services from inetd so they 
aren't started until they are needed. Some programs written for inet 
invocation have options to hang around for a while after invocation just 
incase another connection comes in.

There is a flat-file replacement for sysv/init.d, but it's name escapes 
me. I don't know if it would handle this any better or not.

There is work on a program called [1] daemond. I also found [2] runit 
which was derived from [3] daemontools.

Another promising option looks like [4] SystemServices which from the 
few references I've read seems to be targeting at doing what you're 
looking for. It is suppose to link into the hopefully up-and-coming [5] 
D-BUS daemon.

I never get very far on this thought because it currently works well 
enough for me. I think if I had a laptop or tablet I would put more 
thought into the setup. Send me an email if you get something working 
that you like. :)

[1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/daemond/
[2] http://smarden.org/runit/benefits.html
[3] http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html
[4] http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=4711
[5] http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/dbus
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DVD-R(W)

[Jeff Elkins]

I'm using DVD+RW discs (and growisofs) for the most part, but I still have 
some DVD-RWs. I pulled them out from the stack to do some backups and lo & 
behold, I had to update my cdrecord-prodvd "key" in order to use them. 

This disturbs me. What if Schilling gets hit by a bus?

I wrote Mr. Schilling quite a while back  and asked how I could purchase
 a "key-free" copy of cdrecord-prodvd and never got a reply. I prefer free 
software, but I was quite willing to give Schilling some cash...

Now I'm not. 

Is there OSS software out there that works with DVD-R(W)?


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Re: Question RE IDE Tape Drives

[Jeffrey L. Taylor]

Quoting Phillip Hofmeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> 
> All,
> 
> I am looking to install a Seagate Travan 10GB/20GB IDE Tape drive into a
> Debian box.
> 
> My question is, what kernel support would one build into the kernel in
> order to get such a drive working?
> 
> My first thought would be to use the IDE-SCSI Emulation and then enable
> the SCSI Tape support.  After that use the mt tools as if it were a SCSI
> Tape device.  Would this work?
> 

This is correct.  The ide-tape driver was broken starting several
years ago for this tape drive.  I have it on my todo list to check the
ide-tape driver again, but haven't gotten to it. The ide-scsi driver
will give errors but they are benign.  Save and restore a file to
check/convince yourself.

HTH,
  Jeffrey


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Re: Bad News -- Xfree 4.4 is out

[Colin Watson]

On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 02:21:04AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 09:06:34PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > This means that unless SOMETHING is done about the license, it has just
> > become Non-Free. Sorry.
> 
> Before spreading FUD, please understand that "GPL-incompatible" is *not*
> the same as non-free. XFree86 4.4 is still under a DFSG-free licence.

(at least as far as the plain GPL-compatibility question goes; there may
be other issues)

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Re: networkprinting/cups

[Gregory Seidman]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 02:36:03PM +0100, ijbd wrote:
} my desktop has an HP-720C, which works fine on cups locally. If I use
} KDE menu Settings/Printing Manager, I can open a printer wizard
} offering me all kind of things (to be able to push prints to the LAN I
} think, I want to pull them from the LAN). Do I need to do something
} here to make the desktop a network print server?
[...]

Yes.

} Aha, /etc/initd.conf enabled imaps and pop3 only so I removed the #in
} #printer stream tcp nowait lp /usr/lib/cups/daemon/cups-lpd cups-lpd
} and restarted initd on both machines. Probably only required on the desktop.

Completely irrelevant.

} No improvement, what more to do?

The trick is that the machine with the printer connected to it has to 1)
broadcast its print services, and 2) allow printing from the network.
You may also have to set your laptop to listen for available print
services. This involves modifying the /etc/cups/cupsd.conf file. Note
that I have a similar setup to yours, so I've actually done this.

This paragraph applies to both the client (laptop) and server (desktop).
Browsing is supposed to be on by default anyway, but you can search in
the cupsd.conf file for a line about Browsing and make sure it is turned
on and not commented. The BrowseProtocol should also be uncommented, and
it should be set to cups. The BrowseAddress should probably be set to
@LOCAL, but you can put in something more specific if you understand
what you are doing.

On just the server, you must have BrowseAllow @LOCAL (or something more
specific). Now comes the complicated part. You will find a bunch of
sections that start with  where PATH is something like /
or /classes. You must somehow allow the laptop access to certain paths.
My home LAN is behind a NAT, and my network is 192.168.1.x, so I have

Allow From 192.168.1.1/24

...in the /, /classes, /printers  sections. You will want
something similar.

Once you've change the cupsd.conf files on both machines, you'll need to
run /etc/init.d/cupsys restart to get CUPS to reread the configuration.
You should now magically have the HP printer available to the laptop.

} mvg Boudewijn
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Re: Xfree 4.4 is out

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> Great news! 4.4 version is out. 
> 
> http://www.xfree.org/#newrel
> 
> Finally my card is there (ati radeon 9800)

Look for the Xfree86 license problem in lwn.net before you get too happy.
Until that mess is sorted out one way or another, you will find official
support for Xfree86 4.4 rather lacking just about everywhere.

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  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Problems with new apache-ssl certificate

[Matthew Joyce]

Dear Debian-Users

I had apache-ssl working ok with a self-signed certificate, but now I
come to use a cert from http://certs.ipsca.com I am having problems.

I created the key and csr...

$openssl genrsa -des3 -out server.key 1024 
$openssl req -new -key server.key -out server.csr 

after submitting server.csr, I received a certificate

I copied the cert and the intermediate cert to the web server and
changed the /etc/apache-ssl/hpptd.conf

changed
 SSLCertificateKeyFile /etc/apache-ssl/server.key
 SSLCertificateFile /etc/apache-ssl/mydomain.cer

and added
 SSLCACertificateFile /etc/apache-ssl/IPS-IPSCABUNDLE.cer


when I restart apache-ssl, it asks for the password, which I enter.

$ apache-sslctl start
Reading key for server x:443
Enter PEM pass phrase:
Launching... /usr/lib/apache-ssl/gcache
pid=2217
/usr/sbin/apache-sslctl start: httpsd started

but the pages which worked before no longer work, no page is recieved by
the browser.

in the logs, /var/log/apache-ssl/error.log

[Mon Mar  1 13:29:33 2004] [crit] (22)Invalid argument: Error reading
private key file /etc/apache-ssl/server.key:
[Mon Mar  1 13:29:33 2004] [crit] error:0906406D:PEM
routines:DEF_CALLBACK:problems getting password
[Mon Mar  1 13:29:33 2004] [crit] error:0906A068:PEM
routines:PEM_do_header:bad password read


I'm a novice at these things and just do not understand what is broken.

Any ideas ?


Matt
Children's Cancer Institute Australia
http://www.ccia.org.au

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Re: Bad News -- Xfree 4.4 is out

[Greg Folkert]

On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 21:21, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 09:06:34PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > Sorry Folks... but XFree86 v4.4 is GPL incompatible:
> > 
> > to quote from http://xfree86.org/legal/licenses.html
> > 
> > quote
> > What about GPL-compatibility?
> > 
> > The 1.1 license is not GPL-compatible. To avoid new issues with
> > application programs that may be licensed under the GPL, the 1.1 licence
> > is not being applied to client side libraries.
> > end quote
> > 
> > This means that unless SOMETHING is done about the license, it has just
> > become Non-Free. Sorry.
> 
> Before spreading FUD, please understand that "GPL-incompatible" is *not*
> the same as non-free. XFree86 4.4 is still under a DFSG-free licence.
Okay, before we get to far along. I may have mis-spoke about being
non-free. But the possibilities are no laughing matter.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/debian-x-200402/msg00780.html

Branden has a few things to iron out then.
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Re: sms-gateway

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Ross Tsolakidis:
> 
> I'm looking for a way to send the subject of an email via SMS.
> Is this possible with any packages thru Debian ?
> 
> Can anyone direct me to any information about SMS > Email ?
> 
> Do I require a Mobile Phone company to be part of this process ?  Eg,
> Use their gateway ?  Or can I do it all myself ?

If you can receive emails on your phone, there shouldn't be anything
more to it than ensuring that your phone bill's paid.

  -

What in the world is with that ridiculous disclaimer?!?  Is .au tort
law really as screwed up as US tort law?  Wow.


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Re: Installation Questions

[Roberto Sanchez]

Martin Kuball wrote:
Hi!

I'm planing to install Debian on my desktop machine which already has a 
running Linux. But not Debian which I came to like recently because I use it 
on my laptop.

So here is the question. Is it possible with the debian installer to skip 
some of the tasks? Especially formatting the partitions and installing a new 
kernel? Which means I want to keep my LILO settings and everything in /boot 
and /lib/modules.

Thanks,

Martin


Your best bet is the chroot install.  Google for it.
I have installed Debian over a couple of dozen RH
boxes using that technique.
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MIMEDefang 2.38 and Perl 5.8.3 Segfault

[Peter A. Cole]

Hi all,

I'm experiencing a major drama whereby mimedefang is segfaulting after what I believe 
to be the latest Perl update.

I've posted a query on the mimedefang list and so far it looks to be a perl issue of 
some sort causing the segfault.

Is anyone else experiencing this and if so have you resolved it or filed a bug report?

I'm not sure how to narrow it down to a particular package/module/library or whatever 
so I can file a bug.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Pete


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Re: Bad News -- Xfree 4.4 is out

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 09:06:34PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> Sorry Folks... but XFree86 v4.4 is GPL incompatible:
> 
> to quote from http://xfree86.org/legal/licenses.html
> 
> quote
> What about GPL-compatibility?
> 
> The 1.1 license is not GPL-compatible. To avoid new issues with
> application programs that may be licensed under the GPL, the 1.1 licence
> is not being applied to client side libraries.
> end quote
> 
> This means that unless SOMETHING is done about the license, it has just
> become Non-Free. Sorry.

Before spreading FUD, please understand that "GPL-incompatible" is *not*
the same as non-free. XFree86 4.4 is still under a DFSG-free licence.

Cheers,

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Re: Bad News -- Xfree 4.4 is out

[Greg Folkert]

On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 14:47, Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> Great news! 4.4 version is out. 
> 
> http://www.xfree.org/#newrel
> 
> Finally my card is there (ati radeon 9800)
Sorry Folks... but XFree86 v4.4 is GPL incompatible:

to quote from http://xfree86.org/legal/licenses.html

quote
What about GPL-compatibility?

The 1.1 license is not GPL-compatible. To avoid new issues with
application programs that may be licensed under the GPL, the 1.1 licence
is not being applied to client side libraries.
end quote

This means that unless SOMETHING is done about the license, it has just
become Non-Free. Sorry.

Fork the codebase pre-X Oz License. Then continue from there as
something like "ReallyFreeX" or something.

It is a shame David Dawes has his head fairly well implanted somewhere
that stinks and the sun don't shine.
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depmod: *** Unresolved symbols on install new kernel modules

[Ross Boylan]

I just built a custom kernel and modules, and got a bunch of errors
about unresolved symbols errors from depmod:

# dpkg -i alsa-modules-2.4.24advncdfs_1.0.2c-2+rb.2_i386.deb 
i2c-2.4.24advncdfs_2.8.1-1+rb.2_i386.deb 
lm-sensors-2.4.24advncdfs_2.8.1-2+rb.2_i386.deb
Selecting previously deselected package alsa-modules-2.4.24advncdfs.
(Reading database ... 208972 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking alsa-modules-2.4.24advncdfs (from 
alsa-modules-2.4.24advncdfs_1.0.2c-2+rb.2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package i2c-2.4.24advncdfs.
Unpacking i2c-2.4.24advncdfs (from i2c-2.4.24advncdfs_2.8.1-1+rb.2_i386.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package lm-sensors-2.4.24advncdfs.
Unpacking lm-sensors-2.4.24advncdfs (from 
lm-sensors-2.4.24advncdfs_2.8.1-2+rb.2_i386.deb) ...
Setting up alsa-modules-2.4.24advncdfs (1.0.2c-2+rb.2) ...
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.24advncdfs/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.24advncdfs/kernel/crypto/deflate.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.24advncdfs/kernel/crypto/tcrypt.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.24advncdfs/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.24advncdfs/kernel/drivers/block/loop.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.24advncdfs/kernel/drivers/cdrom/cdrom.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.24advncdfs/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.24advncdfs/kernel/drivers/char/drm/mga.o
[and many more]

This happened immediately after I installed the new kernel.  I'm
tempted to think this is just because depmod is running against the
current (2.4.21) kernel, but I don't recall seeing such warnings in
the past.

Here is some possibly related information and puzzles:
Kernel and modules built with debianized sources, debianized
kernel-patches, and make-kpkg.

I've been getting errors about apm.o (only) with my current kernel:
Feb 29 07:30:01 wheat insmod:
/lib/modules/2.4.21advncdfs/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.o:
init_module: No such device
I do have the file
/lib/modules/2.4.21advncdfs/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.o on my
system.

The build of the kernel seemed to have an unusual number of missing
files type messages.  For example,
acsi.c:74:25: asm/atarihw.h: No such file or directory
acsi.c:75:27: asm/atariints.h: No such file or directory
acsi.c:76:28: asm/atari_acsi.h: No such file or directory
acsi.c:77:29: asm/atari_stdma.h: No such file or directory
acsi.c:78:29: asm/atari_stram.h: No such file or directory
fetchop.c:59:25: asm/machvec.h: No such file or directory
fetchop.c:60:24: asm/sn/sgi.h: No such file or directory
fetchop.c:61:26: asm/sn/addrs.h: No such file or directory
fetchop.c:62:25: asm/sn/arch.h: No such file or directory
fetchop.c:63:28: asm/sn/fetchop.h: No such file or directory
fetchop.c:64:29: asm/sn/sn_cpuid.h: No such file or directory
i2c-ite.h:36:31: asm/it8172/it8172.h: No such file or directory
rtc.c:27:25: asm/machdep.h: No such file or directory
rtc.c:29:22: asm/time.h: No such file or directory
via-pmu.c:36:22: asm/prom.h: No such file or directory
via-pmu.c:37:25: asm/machdep.h: No such file or directory
via-pmu.c:41:26: asm/sections.h: No such file or directory
via-pmu.c:44:30: asm/pmac_feature.h: No such file or directory
via-pmu.c:47:26: asm/sections.h: No such file or directory
via-pmu.c:48:26: asm/cputable.h: No such file or directory
via-pmu.c:49:22: asm/time.h: No such file or directory
tc.c:19:27: asm/addrspace.h: No such file or directory
tc.c:21:30: asm/dec/machtype.h: No such file or directory
Makefile:168: kernel/i2c-core.d: No such file or directory
Makefile:168: kernel/i2c-dev.d: No such file or directory
Makefile:168: kernel/i2c-algo-bit.d: No such file or directory
Makefile:168: kernel/i2c-algo-biths.d: No such file or directory
Makefile:168: kernel/i2c-philips-par.d: No such file or directory
Makefile:168: kernel/i2c-elv.d: No such file or directory
Makefile:168: kernel/i2c-velleman.d: No such file or directory
Makefile:168: kernel/i2c-algo-pcf.d: No such file or directory
Makefile:168: kernel/i2c-proc.d: No such file or directory
Makefile:168: kernel/i2c-pport.d: No such file or directory
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/kernel/modules/lm-sensors'
Makefile:246: kernel/busses/i2c-nforce2.d: No such file or directory
Makefile:246: kernel/busses/i2c-ipmb.d: No such file or directory
Makefile:246: kernel/busses/i2c-ipmi.d: No such file or directory
Makefile:246: kernel/busses/i2c-ali1535.d: No such file or directory

The latter ones about i2c and lm-sensors seem particularly problematic
(I built both as modules, disabling i2c in the kernel).

Can anybody tell me whether any of this indicates a significant
problem, and if so, what I can do about it?

Thanks.


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Re: nvidia

[M . Kirchhoff]

Preben Ingebricson  cognita.no> writes:
> Is nvidia not supported by 
> XFree86?

I have a GeForce4 MX440 card; it works under XFree86 4.3, which is now 
available in the Unstable/Sid release. I'm running Testing/Sarge, so I simply 
pulled in the Sid packages via apt-pinning (apt-get install -t unstable x-
windows-sytem). YMMV

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Question RE IDE Tape Drives

[Phillip Hofmeister]

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All,

I am looking to install a Seagate Travan 10GB/20GB IDE Tape drive into a
Debian box.

My question is, what kernel support would one build into the kernel in
order to get such a drive working?

My first thought would be to use the IDE-SCSI Emulation and then enable
the SCSI Tape support.  After that use the mt tools as if it were a SCSI
Tape device.  Would this work?

BTW, please cc me in replies as I am not a regular subscriber to this
list.

Thanks

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SMC wireless woes, need advise

[Damon L. Chesser]

After following wireless postings, I decided to try it out.  I bought a
SMC2804WBR router (802.11b,g w/wep and wap) and a SMC2835W PCIAM card.
After installing it on Win XP (dual boot w/libranet 2.8.1) my windows
broke!  I figured I would install it on the "easy one" first so I can
"see" it in operation.  Now the GUI is broken (tool bar and the tool bar
buttons/key short cuts don't work).  Ever try to fix windows without a GUI?
Then I tried it out on Libranet  Tried the support data base method, 
no-joy.
The card does not light up, no boot-beeps indicating pcmcia cards
found.  I went to www.prism54.org and followed their instructions (the
card in in their data base and is listed as working, that's why I bought
it).  These are the steps I followed:

1:  Using LN support database instructions, downloaded the latest 2.4.23
kernel patch (following the LN link) and installed it.
2:  Downloaded the kernel patch from prism54 and installed it.
Re-compiled the kernel with the prism54 option under networking selected
(you can find the directions under "readme" on the main page)
3:  Rebooted after the kernel compiled.  MISTAKE!  I had no network
apone reboot, but I was not worried as the drivers where not yet
compiled:  So, downloaded the prism54 drivers, make compiled pointing to
my kernel source by /usr/src/linux-2.4.23, make install clean, all asper
the directions in the readme.
Now I don't know what to do or how to do it.  Please note:  Windows
died, linux just has no network.  Hm so much for the "easy" install
in windows XP.
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Re: mozilla mailcap

[Jacob Anawalt]

Rick Pasotto wrote:
How do I get mutt to use an already running mozilla to display text/html
documents. It's popping up the profile selector and then saying it can't
use the only one there is because it's already in use.
Have you tried the remote option?

From mozilla --help

-remoteExecute  in an already running
Mozilla process.  For more info, see:
http://www.mozilla.org/unix/remote.html

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invisible text menu/dialog boxes in sarge/kde

[Sneferu]

Hi all,

I've installed debian via debian-installer 
(http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/) in a vmware environment. 
All went well, configured and so; however, when I enter X, I can't read 
anything on the menus. The text simply doesn't appear. Sometimes it appears 
for a brief period of time (split-seccond), but never stays. This happens 
when I go to menu button, as well as dialog boxes (for example in Control 
Panel).

I forgot, we're talking about kde of course ;-)

Any of you experienced the same problem? How did you solved it?

Thank you.
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Re: mozilla freezes on geocities.com?

[Erik Steffl]

s. keeling wrote:
Incoming from Erik Steffl:

 mozilla seems to be working fairly well but when I went to 
geocities.com it repeatedly froze - the CPU usage went to 100% and 
mozilla windows were not updated at all, X window close didn't work, 
kill -15 worked.


You're obviously mistaken.  I see nothing like that here.
geocities.com lands me at geocities.yahoo.com with no problem.
However, you said nothing about details in your post.  Which mozilla,
which debian distribution, how are you connecting, ...
  oops, it does not freeze right away, it freezes after few minutes (5 
- 10) of use of geocities.com (building a page etc.). It seems to freeze 
forever (forever = few hours, I killed it then)

  debian unstable
  mozilla-browser 1.6-1
  there are bugs (185582 against 1.3-2, 186817 against 1.3-4 and 1.5-3) 
filed that seem similar but it's hard to tell and there's no solution 
proposed...

	erik

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Re: Installation Questions

[Monique Y. Herman]

On 2004-02-29, Martin Kuball penned:
> Hi!
>
> I'm planing to install Debian on my desktop machine which already has
> a running Linux. But not Debian which I came to like recently because
> I use it on my laptop.
>
> So here is the question. Is it possible with the debian installer to
> skip some of the tasks? Especially formatting the partitions and
> installing a new kernel? Which means I want to keep my LILO settings
> and everything in /boot and /lib/modules.
>

Not sure about the kernel bit, but you can choose not to run lilo or
reformat partitions.  I'd imagine that you could move /lib/modules to
/lib/modules.orig, and that way, if it tries to overwrite them, you can
just move 'em back.

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Re: gpg & mutt

[Paul Johnson]

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On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 10:31:09AM -0700, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from S.D.A.:
> > I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).
> .^^^
> 
> pgp or gpg?  My mutt is 1.3.28i (Woody).  gpg (GnuPG) 1.2.2

A lot of people say pgp when they mean any OpenPGP compliant program.

> > The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've
> 
> Do you have "gpa"?  That's a cute little gui for managing keys.
> Perhaps that's where you say which is your default?  Anyway, all my
> gpg stuff is in ~/.gnupg, and how it all works is defined in
> ~/.gnupg/options.  In mutt, I have these (all fairly stock, from
> /etc/Muttrc):

kgpg is also really handy if you use KDE.

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sms-gateway

[Ross Tsolakidis]

Hi all,

I'm looking for a way to send the subject of an email via SMS.
Is this possible with any packages thru Debian ?

Can anyone direct me to any information about SMS > Email ?

Do I require a Mobile Phone company to be part of this process ?  Eg,
Use their gateway ?  Or can I do it all myself ?

Thanks all !

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Re: gpg & mutt

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> See my other post in this thread.  They all came from /etc/Muttrc.

I would recommend when you make changes to make changes only to your
personal ~/.muttrc.  Changing the /etc/Muttrc defaults may leave you
in a spot where you can't fall back to something reasonably sane.

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Re: Fetchmail Query

[Peter A. Cole]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:37:52 +0100
Oliver Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> 1) Did you recreate the sendmail.cf file with e.g. sendmailconfig.

Yep, I ran sendmailconfig telling it to use the existing files.

> 2) No I only have the feature added to my sendmail.mc.

There goes that idea  :-)

> 3) In my .fetchmailrc I have at the beginning this options:
> 
> [...]
> set bouncemail
> set spambounce
> set properties ""
> [...]
> 
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Oliver
> -- 
Thanks Oliver, I've set --nobounce in /etc/defaults/fetchmail but I'll check what the 
other two do as well.

At the moment I'm sidetracked by mimedefang slaves dieing prematurely and preventing 
me getting mail. I've had to take it out of the loop temporarily  :-(

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Re: Lightweight Alternative to Mozilla-Firebird

[Peter A. Cole]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 10:04:46 -0500
"S.D.A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> Yeah really?! You can read/write an e-mail while Sylpheed is pulling
> down mesages? Cool -- not being able to b4 is the primary reason I 
> left it, for Mozilla.
> 
> I liked it's ability to reply with higlighted material quoted.
> That's something Mozilla/Thunderbird haven't implemented yet.
> 
> -- 
Yep you can now. In fact it's downloading mail right now as I type.

I also like that feature actually, it's very handy at keeping your mind on what your 
responding to!

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Re: headless firewall application recommendation

[David Clymer]

On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 00:40, MJ Inabnit wrote:
> Greetings:
> 
> I am looking for recommendations for firewall/router software for
> Debian.  I have looked over several packages, but I feel swamped.  I
> used an old Woody CD for very basic install, updated kernel and then
> upgraded the system to Sarge.  All is working great, so far.  Now I
> want to use this computer as a firewall to connect other computers in
> the house LAN to the internet (safely).  I am no expert and firewall
> rules cause me to stagger in my chair, so I am looking for a package
> that will set good default rules for the LAN, yet can be tweaked if I
> get the urge to open a port for a game etc.  Also, the system will be
> without keyboard/mouse/monitor, so I want to avoid instlling X on it.
> 

Try shorewall.

-davidc


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Re: mozilla freezes on geocities.com?

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Erik Steffl:
>   mozilla seems to be working fairly well but when I went to 
> geocities.com it repeatedly froze - the CPU usage went to 100% and 
> mozilla windows were not updated at all, X window close didn't work, 
> kill -15 worked.

You're obviously mistaken.  I see nothing like that here.
geocities.com lands me at geocities.yahoo.com with no problem.

However, you said nothing about details in your post.  Which mozilla,
which debian distribution, how are you connecting, ...


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Re: Kmplayer package

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On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 09:51:43PM +0100, Slaanesh wrote:

> Does somebody know if a debian package of kmplayer is available 
> somewhere ?

A search at apt-get.org finds three.
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Lost isa card with Kernel 2.6

[Robert Rati]

I just installed the Debian 2.6.3 kernel for i686 machines and my ISA
PNP card.  I have an old ISA Plug and Play modem that I had working in
kernel 2.4, but can't get 2.6 to recognize.  With the 2.4 kernel, I was
able to disable PNP OS in my Award BIOS, and the 2.4 Linux kernel found
the card as just another serial port.  The 2.6 kernel doesn't appear to
do this.  I tried enabling PNP OS in my BIOS, but that didn't appear to
help anything.  The pnp.txt file with the kernel source wasn't much
help.  Do I have to install the isapnptools package and configure that
like I used to have to?  Any help would be appreciated.

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mozilla freezes on geocities.com?

[Erik Steffl]

  mozilla seems to be working fairly well but when I went to 
geocities.com it repeatedly froze - the CPU usage went to 100% and 
mozilla windows were not updated at all, X window close didn't work, 
kill -15 worked.

  not sure what triggered freeze, it wasn't a particular page or action 
but it was always on geocities.com (I don't remember mozilla freezeing 
on any other page recently).

  any ideas? similar/different experience? should I file a bug?

	erik

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debian menu sorting does not work anymore

[Erik Steffl]

  I added the custom sorting to my debian menu configuration, it used 
to work but some time ago it stopped working.

  I have the following in the /etc/menu-methods/menu.h:

# item first, submenu later:
# sort=ifelse($command, "0", "1" ) ":$title"
sort=ifelse($priority, $priority, "99")
  and here's an example of sorted menu entry:

jojda:~> cat /etc/menu/xterm
?package(xterm):\
 needs=x11\
 section="/"\
 longtitle="Xterm: terminal emulator for X"\
 title=Xterm\
 priority="01"\
 command="xterm -fg green -bg black" \
 icon="/usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/wterm.xpm"
  any ideas why this does not work anymore (the xterm item is just 
alphabetically sorted, appears last instead of first).

  system:

debian unstable
unsorted menu in fvwm
unsorted menu in pdmenu
  TIA

	erik

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Re: tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[Travis Crump]

Oliver Fuchs wrote:
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, s. keeling wrote:


Check the manpage.  The "f" switch is used to tell tar that the next
parameter is the file to use:
  tar cvzf test.tar.gz /

Instead, cd to someplace with some space, then run it.


Yes, that is right ... my fault.


By default, tar doesn't, so you must have done something wrong.  Try:

  cd /
  tar cvzf /somewhere/test.tgz .
  cd /somewhere
  tar tvzf test.tgz
Note the "."  btw, tarring the whole root dir will tar the entire
filesystem, including everything that's mounted off the root
filesystem.  man tar to find out how not to do that.


Yes surely, I did a lot of --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/dev ... that was not the
problem.
What I do not understand is:
I am in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE
Now I want to tar directory /tmp for example then I do
tar cvzf temp.test.tar.gz /tmp

Afterwards I receive in the directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE the archive
temp.test.tar.gz which can be untared without any problems.
But ... trying to do

tar cvzf root.test.tar.gz / --exclude=home --exclude=/dev

I receive the archive root.test.tar.gz in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE
but trying to untar it gives me the mkdir-error-message.
From my tests that error doesn't appear to be fatal and can be ignored.


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Re: New paradigm for Linux distributions?

[David Clymer]

On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 14:19, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> David Clymer wrote:
> > On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 15:50, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
> > 
> >>I posted a small article on a possible future for Linux distributions: 
> >>http://ballsome.com
> >>
> >>Thoughts?
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > Perhaps I'm just dense, but what's new here? To me, Ian's "plan" sounds
> > like a fairly good description of debian with "lets all use the same
> > package format" thrown in (another old idea). How is debian NOT
> > componentized? Doesn't debian already have a repository of packages
> > based on apt? Doesnt debian already support the installation of a "core"
> > system, and then allow one to download any specific components/software
> > one needs?
> > 
> > I'm not saying that any of this is a bad idea, but why start another
> > project when one can get the same thing by just using debian?
> > 
> > Perhaps others can tell me what it is about these concepts that I'm
> > missing.
> 
> Well, I guess the difference here (in my idea, anyway) is that the main 
> repository wouldn't be under the control of a single distribution. It'd 
> be a central repository used by all participating distributions.
> 
> Currently, Debian's repository is just that - Debian's repository. Yeah, 
> it's very large, and very open to others, but it's still Debian's. I 
> guess if you consider Debian's as "the world's", then we're already there.
> 

Thats all true, its just that I don't really see that its practical to
start yet another project. _Somebody_ has got to control/manage the
repository. If it's not debian, it would be another organization
(Progeny perhaps?). Whoever it is, would have to create and enforce
policy regarding the managment of the repository, the creation of
packages for it (so that conflicts/dependancies can be
identified/defined), provide the equipment, bandwidth, etc. On top of
this, no one who disagreed with the policies under which the packages
(this would include dictating package type) were made would want to use
the repository or contribute to it. All these problems would be faced if
one was to try to get everyone to use and contribute to debian's
repository. Debian could be "the world's" if we could get everyone to
agree on all these things. So why not spend time promoting an
organization+policy+repository+community that already exists rather than
attempting to start a new one?  

>From what I understand of it (again, I could very easily be overlooking
the whole point somehow), it seems like a very nice, but impractical
suggestion.

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Re: exim HELO=fully qualified host name?

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On 2004-02-23 22:24:28 -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> That depends on who's mail server you connect to.  Some admins require
> the HELO parameter to be resolvable, and some even require it to
> resolve to the IP of the machine making the connection.

They should fix their configuration, then.

RFC 2821:

   An SMTP server MAY verify that the domain name parameter in the EHLO
   command actually corresponds to the IP address of the client.
   However, the server MUST NOT refuse to accept a message for this
   reason if the verification fails: the information about verification
   failure is for logging and tracing only.

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Re: CUPS Admin (was Re: [Fwd: Re: No printing at all!])

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Fri, 2004-02-27 at 22:07, CW Harris wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 07:54:08PM +, Clive Menzies wrote:
> > On (27/02/04 13:00), Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2004-02-25 at 19:18, Clive Menzies wrote:
> > > > On (25/02/04 17:23), Alisdair wrote:
> 
> > > Here's the URL  for CUPS where the documentation for authentication
> > > stuff starts, IINM:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > And here's a
> > > /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
> > > that allows only users in group foo, on one machine with several users,
> > > to manage the CUPS printing system, and only after he or she provided
> > > their username/passwd ...
> > > 
> > > [ /etc/groups file 
> > > adduser  foo
> > > ... login ... logout .. IIRC ]
> > > 
> > > I didn't test so far whether this also works on a network connected to
> > > some printer, but I'd believe it could work ... not being sure on that
> > > ..
> 
> As I understand, you can specify in cupsd.conf the network or hosts that
> are allowed to have admin privs.  (The "Allow From" directive).
> 
> > > 
> > > At least here on 
> > > http://localhost:631
> > > on a single machine with several users: after some initial tests it
> > > seems to work:
> > > 
> > > Here's the corresponding cupsd.conf:
> > > --- 
> > > LogLevel debug
> > > Printcap /var/run/cups/printcap
> > > 
> > > Order Deny,Allow
> > > Deny From All
> > > Allow From 127.0.0.1
> > > 
> > > 
> > > AuthType Basic
> > > AuthClass Group
> > > AuthGroupName foo
> > > Order Deny,Allow
> > > Deny From All
> > > Allow From 127.0.0.1
> 
> Here is where you can control where admin privs are allowed from.
> 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > 
> > > So with this last cupsd.conf it seems you don't need to be root to
> > > change your CUPS settings and you can decide who of the users on a
> > > machine will be able to to change these settings ... 
> > > 
> > > I swear I love this crap, at least some times . :)
> 
>   Yeah. So many things are beautiful...when they are working
> right! 
> 
> > > 
> > > PS:
> > > I'd 
> > > cp -r /etc/cups/ /path/to/other/directory/cups.working
> > > before changing some printer settings ... :)
> > > 
> > > HTH, too ...
> > > 
> > > Best Regards
> > > 
> > > Wolfgang
> > Hi Wolfgang
> > 
> > Thanks for this although I was responding to the OP who was having
> > trouble setting up printing.  Using the browser, as I understand it,
> > you are only configuring cups as the administrator if you login as root.
> 
> No. As he says, any user in group "foo".


yow ... and just in case someone might be interested: Here's a
/etc/cups/cupsd.conf
that should let everyone on a machine configure CUPS, without the need
to enter a passwd:

---
LogLevel debug
Printcap /var/run/cups/printcap

Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1


AuthType None
Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1

--

With the cupsd.conf above everyone should be able to acces
http://localhost:631/admin

This config *might* make sense if one is the only person having access
to a machine. 


> 
> > I wouldn't imagine that you could inadvertantly do anything really
> > dangerous from the browser except possibly screw up cups.

I'm extremely talented in destroying  settings on a computer by mistake
once I'm on X, even on console: That's why, while being root,  I try to
never login to X at least ... :)

> 
> Add/Change printers, classes, etc.  Yes, this is only cups
> administration.  (Maybe I don't understand "anything
> dangerous...except..cups").
> 
> > 
> > However, I do find it a pain to login as root just for this and so I
> > will add this to my growing list of tasks to conquer ;)
> 
> Yes, I /still/ just feel like I'm muddling through.  Started using cups
> because I thought it would magically work better with the MS crap.  Now
> I'm taking the plunge to Samba 3.x

   [ ... ]

I found Eric S. Raymond's Essay on CUPS from Feb. 27 this afternoon (E.S
Raymond is the author of fetchmail, sed and other stuff.):

"The Luxury of Ignorance: An Open-Source Horror Story"


Excerpt:
"I've just gone through the experience of trying to configure CUPS, the
Common Unix Printing System. It has proved a textbook lesson in why
nontechnical people run screaming from Unix. This is all the more
frustrating because the developers of CUPS have obviously tried hard to
produce an accessible system — but the best intentions and effort have
led to a system which despite its superficial pseudo-friendliness is so
undiscoverable that it might as well have been written in ancient
Sanskrit."

Enjoy ... :)

Best Regards
Wolfgang

PS: It's possible I made a mistake when writing in my previous posting I
had set Gnome to forbid root here to log in to X. I didn't have the time
so far to look at it ...

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Re: gpg & mutt

[S.D.A.]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 03:14:42PM -0700 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from S.D.A.:
> > 
> > Is there a good SxS for this anywhere. Any I'm found, don't really go
> > through this step x step. I followed one, and it didn't even mention an
> 
> Ah!  "SxS" == "Step by step."

Yes, (note to self not to use accronyms)

> See http://codesorcery.net/mutt/mutt-gnupg-howto

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Help: Battstat

[Ben Hill]

Apologies if it's a lame question: I am trying to get battstat showing
the correct current battery charge, but it's not picking up any info.

I have built ACPI and APM into my 2.6.3 kernel and I'm running Deb 3.0
testing/unstable. This is on a Toshiba Tecra M1 laptop.

Cheers,

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Re: Error - yet another locale problem. :-(

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Pedro M.:
> Using synaptic appears the next error :
> 
> perl:warming : setting locale failed.
> perl: warning:Please check that your locale settings :
> 
> LANGUAGE = (unset)
> LC_ALL= (unset)
> LANG = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> 
> are supporeted and installed on your system.
> 
> perl: warming : falling back to the satandar locale ("c")
> 
> What can I do ??.

Learn to check the archives at list.debian.org?  Short answer is
"dpkg-reconfigure locales", man locale, /etc/locale.alias,
/etc/locale.gen, and locale-gen.


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Re: gpg & mutt

[s. keeling]

Incoming from S.D.A.:
> 
> Is there a good SxS for this anywhere. Any I'm found, don't really go
> through this step x step. I followed one, and it didn't even mention an

Ah!  "SxS" == "Step by step."

See http://codesorcery.net/mutt/mutt-gnupg-howto


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Error

[Pedro M.]

Using synaptic appears the next error :

perl:warming : setting locale failed.
perl: warning:Please check that your locale settings :
LANGUAGE = (unset)
LC_ALL= (unset)
LANG = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
are supporeted and installed on your system.

perl: warming : falling back to the satandar locale ("c")

What can I do ??.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: FYI: Branden's Response to DPL Platform Question

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On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 02:11:27PM -0700, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from Joel Konkle-Parker:
> > challenges they've had to face.  The fact that approximately 6% of our
> > archive fails to meet bare minimum expectations leads me to believe that
> > we may want to inaugurate a special process for orphaning such packages.
> 
> 'Sounds to me like a job for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> That might be a great way to draw in potential maintainers (hey, I'd
> read it!), and with %96 good vs. %6 bad, the numbers are promising.

More -qa, really, although a bit of both. Working on such broken
packages is most certainly an activity that does happen at the moment,
but could sometimes do with better organization.

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Re: Distributed Jukeboxes for LAN

[Monique Y. Herman]

On 2004-02-29, Bill Moseley penned:
> Just looking for suggestions on a distributed jukebox for mostly audio
> files for my home lan.  There seems to be a few available but wanted
> to see if anyone here has a favorite.
>
> Anyone using http://www.theory.org/software/djukebox/ ?
>
> My current setup is a browser setup that runs xmms --enqueue, but my
> playlists are hand edited.  Rather basic.
>

Have you looked at slimp3?

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Re: tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[CW Harris]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 09:33:48PM +0100, Oliver Fuchs wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, s. keeling wrote:
> 

> >cd /
> >tar cvzf /somewhere/test.tgz .
> >cd /somewhere
> >tar tvzf test.tgz
> > 
> > Note the "."  btw, tarring the whole root dir will tar the entire
> > filesystem, including everything that's mounted off the root
> > filesystem.  man tar to find out how not to do that.
> 
> Yes surely, I did a lot of --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/dev ... that was not the
> problem.
> 
> What I do not understand is:
> I am in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE
> Now I want to tar directory /tmp for example then I do
> 
> tar cvzf temp.test.tar.gz /tmp
> 
> Afterwards I receive in the directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE the archive
> temp.test.tar.gz which can be untared without any problems.
> 
> But ... trying to do
> 
> tar cvzf root.test.tar.gz / --exclude=home --exclude=/dev
> 
> I receive the archive root.test.tar.gz in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE
> but trying to untar it gives me the mkdir-error-message.
> 
> Why is tar not processing the / directory like any other directory and why is
> it adding a / when tar xvzf cannot untar it?
> 
> So the conclusion would be that trying to tar the / directory I have to cd
> into that directory to make it working while with any other directory I can
> start the tar-process from where ever I want?
> 
I don't think it should do that without the "-P" switch.  What version
are you running?  My quick check (as root or not was the same):

Script started on Sun Feb 29 14:59:32 2004
chris:~>  tar cvzf root.tgz / 
tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
tar: 
lost+found/
root/
.
.
.

I'm using:
tar (GNU tar) 1.13.25
Copyright (C) 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

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Re: gpg & mutt

[S.D.A.]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 10:31:09AM -0700 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from S.D.A.:
> > I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).
> .^^^
> 
> pgp or gpg?  My mutt is 1.3.28i (Woody).  gpg (GnuPG) 1.2.2

mutt 1.5.6i (compiled from source). gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.6 - (Woody).

Should I get a more recent gpg?


> > The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've
> 
> Do you have "gpa"?  That's a cute little gui for managing keys.
> Perhaps that's where you say which is your default?  Anyway, all my
> gpg stuff is in ~/.gnupg, and how it all works is defined in
> ~/.gnupg/options.  In mutt, I have these (all fairly stock, from
> /etc/Muttrc):

No, I don't have 'gpa'. I don't think I really want a GUI, I'm
comfortable using a term. Thanks, though.

I've found the generic gpg.rc and referenced it in my '.muttrc', but I'm
still having some difficulty. Mutt can't find my default key, despite my
defining it in the options file.

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Re: gpg & mutt

[S.D.A.]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 09:06:14PM +0100 or thereabouts, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 the mental interface of 
> S.D.A. told:
> > 
> > Elimar,
> > 
> > Wierd, I don't seem to have an 'options' file. I'll see if it's
> > somewhere else.
> 
>  Did you install the gnupg package?  There must be a options.skel in
>  the distribution like in /usr/share/gnupg or
>  /usr/locale/share/gnupg. Copy that file to your $HOME/.gnupg as
>  $HOME/.gnupg/options and fix your keyserver, defaultkey etc in that
>  file.  Also you need the gpg.rc.gz out of the mutt doc-distro
>  unziped and copied to your $HOME/.mutt/muttrc.gpg. In .mutt/muttrc
>  you have to notice mutt by source ~/.mutt/muttrc.gpg by that file.

Yes I installed the gnupg package. OK, thanks for the heads-up regarding
'options.skel'. It's been copied over to the appropriate directory.

I also got the gpg.rc file, and referenced it to my muttrc. I'm still
getting the errors about not finding the key, however, when I attempt to
sign.

In my options file, I stated my default key in the following format:

default-key F8A48DF1

Is this the proper syntax?


Is there a good SxS for this anywhere. Any I'm found, don't really go
through this step x step. I followed one, and it didn't even mention an
"options" file.

I guess failing there being a SxS, I'll have to write one -- once I get
this working that is...

>  Thats my way and it works perfect ;-)

OK, Still not for me though. :) I'm learning though. Thanks for the
help.

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Re: FYI: Branden's Response to DPL Platform Question

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka:
> On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 22:11, s. keeling wrote:
> > That might be a great way to draw in potential maintainers (hey, I'd
> > read it!), and with %96 good vs. %6 bad, the numbers are promising.
> > ^^^
> You mean from at least 102 % of Debian packages? -:))

Didn't anyone ever tell you that arithmetic flames are just above
spelling flames?  Argh!  :-)


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Re: I've lost my 'k' key, in some apps. - Fixed!

[s. keeling]

This is just one for the archives.  Maybe it'll help someone should
they run into something like it.  The moral is, after installing a
kernel package, run modconf!  This is in Woody 3.0r2

Incoming from s. keeling:
> Incoming from s. keeling:
> > This is the kind of thing that annoys the living daylights out of
> > me.  As you can see, that key works in the xterm that mutt's running
> > in, it works in the emacs window that mutt opens up, and xev
> > recognizes it.  It also works in the gdm login (thank goodness!).
> > 
> > Yet, if I start up an xterm, an rxvt, or a gnome-terminal from the
> > command line or gnome panel, the "k" key just beeps and outputs
> > nothing.  However, if I su to root, it works there.
> 
> I had a sneaking suspicion that something goofy must have been going
> on with the new kernel I installed the day before this started.  Well,
> sort of.  Upgrading to 2.4.18-1-686 clobbered iso-8859-1
> (nls_iso8859-1) language support.  Running modconf and installing a
> couple of modules appears to have eliminated the problem.
> 
> Why the only symptom was the loss of my 'k' key, and only in some
> apps, I've no idea.  What a bizarre failure mode that is.  I suppose I
> should apologise for accusing gnome, but now it's b*tch*ing that
> fluxbox is a non-gnome-compliant wm and is refusing to use it.  #$%^&*!
> It may just be time to just give up on gdm & gnome and go back to
> startx to regain control.  Grrr.


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soundcard driver

[john]

I'm using Debian 2.2 and kernel 2.2.19 that came with it. I've installed
 xmcd and it works just fine but I get no sound. I installed alsa-base
and added 'alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio' to /etc/modutils/aliases
but I still get no sound. All I want to do is play a CD. What else do I
need to do?
Any suggestions would be appreciated. 	

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Installation Questions

[Martin Kuball]

Hi!

I'm planing to install Debian on my desktop machine which already has a 
running Linux. But not Debian which I came to like recently because I use it 
on my laptop.

So here is the question. Is it possible with the debian installer to skip 
some of the tasks? Especially formatting the partitions and installing a new 
kernel? Which means I want to keep my LILO settings and everything in /boot 
and /lib/modules.

Thanks,

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Re: Problem installing Debian onto Proliant server

[Greg Madden]

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On Sunday 29 February 2004 10:06 am, Douglas A. Paquette Jr. wrote:
> To whom it may concern at Debian,
>
> I have a Compaq Proliant 8000 server with 4 Ultra 320 10k 72.8 gig
> scsi hard drives.
>
> http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliant8000/
>
> I had a guy from a computer store successfully install debian into my
> proliant 8000 but ran into some problems between my webmaster and
> this guy and this guy will not tell me anything as to how he got it
> installed.
>
> I want to format and reinstall debian into my proliant 8000 again for
> a fresh install but for some reason Debian is not detecting any hard
> drives during the first part of the install process.
>
> I have setup raid 5 array and a system partition using Compaq's Smart
> Start CD and still it does not detect any drives.
>
> I have even wiped out all the data and installed the debian cd with
> no drives partitioned, no raid, no array config or anything and still
> no go.
>
> Is there anyone who has any experience installing debian on proliant
> servers who could help me out with this.
>
> I have done everything i know of to do.
>
> I have no problem installing Red hat linux version 9, it detects the
> drives and the raid config without hesitation.
>
> But debian doesnt.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 708-334-5845
>
> Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Doug Paquette

This is what the specs say the controller is, RedHat 7.2 is supported on 
that box. "Smart Array 2xx, 3xxx and 42xx Family of Controllers", which 
is the cpq_cpqarray driver. 
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/17261.html

Using Woody the 2.4.18bf kernel has this driver compiled into the 
kernel. This is for the Smart Array 5xxx series, not sure if it is 
backwards compatable.

CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA=y

Not much help, but 'disks not found' in this type of situation can mean 
no driver compiled into the kernel , for the hardware raid card, for 
the Woody kernels.  You need to make sure the driver for the raid card 
is available in the install kernel.
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RE: Sound and Linux Kernel 2.6

[MacNean Tyrrell]

Andreas Janssen, thanks so much, best help every.  Sound now works.  SO
happy.  Thanks again.


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Re: FYI: Branden's Response to DPL Platform Question

[Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka]

On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 22:11, s. keeling wrote:
--snip --
> That might be a great way to draw in potential maintainers (hey, I'd
> read it!), and with %96 good vs. %6 bad, the numbers are promising.
> ^^^
You mean from at least 102 % of Debian packages? -:))
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Re: tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Oliver Fuchs:
> 
> So the conclusion would be that trying to tar the / directory I have to cd
> into that directory to make it working while with any other directory I can
> start the tar-process from where ever I want?

The answer should be in the manpage but for what it's worth, I _never_
want to see a leading "/" in the output of tar [tx]vf.  If I want it
to blow away my root, I'll cd / first, damnit.  :-)


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Re: FYI: Branden's Response to DPL Platform Question

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Joel Konkle-Parker:
> 
> challenges they've had to face.  The fact that approximately 6% of our
> archive fails to meet bare minimum expectations leads me to believe that
> we may want to inaugurate a special process for orphaning such packages.

'Sounds to me like a job for [EMAIL PROTECTED]

That might be a great way to draw in potential maintainers (hey, I'd
read it!), and with %96 good vs. %6 bad, the numbers are promising.


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Kmplayer package

[Slaanesh]

Hi,

Does somebody know if a debian package of kmplayer is available 
somewhere ?

Slaanesh


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FYI: Branden's Response to DPL Platform Question

[Joel Konkle-Parker]

I asked Branden Robinson a question about his DPL platform, and got a 
pretty good response, so I thought I'd post it here.

Question:

While I am in no 'official' position to request this (I'm just a random 
interested user), I'd really appreciate you guys including some stuff 
about the current release cycle, the ongoing delays in releasing Sarge, 
and possible ideas on how to improve the situation in future releases.

Reply:

I do mention the issue in my platform, but I have no specific
recommendations to make at this time.  If elected, I will work with
Anthony Towns, Colin Watson, and Steve Langasek as best I can to
identify the problems they perceive, and collaboratively come up with
solutions.
There are several hard problems that work together to make releasing
Debian difficult.  Also, the rewrite of our installer technology has put
a unique load on this release cycle.
It's worth reviewing Anthony's mail to debian-devel-announce in
December, and Colin's last week, to get an idea of some of the
challenges they've had to face.  The fact that approximately 6% of our
archive fails to meet bare minimum expectations leads me to believe that
we may want to inaugurate a special process for orphaning such packages.
Feel free to repost this reply publicly.

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Re: tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[Oliver Fuchs]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, s. keeling wrote:

> Check the manpage.  The "f" switch is used to tell tar that the next
> parameter is the file to use:
> 
>tar cvzf test.tar.gz /
> 
> Instead, cd to someplace with some space, then run it.

Yes, that is right ... my fault.

> By default, tar doesn't, so you must have done something wrong.  Try:
> 
>cd /
>tar cvzf /somewhere/test.tgz .
>cd /somewhere
>tar tvzf test.tgz
> 
> Note the "."  btw, tarring the whole root dir will tar the entire
> filesystem, including everything that's mounted off the root
> filesystem.  man tar to find out how not to do that.

Yes surely, I did a lot of --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/dev ... that was not the
problem.

What I do not understand is:
I am in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE
Now I want to tar directory /tmp for example then I do

tar cvzf temp.test.tar.gz /tmp

Afterwards I receive in the directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE the archive
temp.test.tar.gz which can be untared without any problems.

But ... trying to do

tar cvzf root.test.tar.gz / --exclude=home --exclude=/dev

I receive the archive root.test.tar.gz in directory /home/me/TAR_EXAMPLE
but trying to untar it gives me the mkdir-error-message.

Why is tar not processing the / directory like any other directory and why is
it adding a / when tar xvzf cannot untar it?

So the conclusion would be that trying to tar the / directory I have to cd
into that directory to make it working while with any other directory I can
start the tar-process from where ever I want?

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Re: tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[Werner Mahr]

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Am Sonntag, 29. Februar 2004 20:42 schrieb Oliver Fuchs:

> I want to tar my whole / directory.
>
> I do
>   tar cvfz  test.tar.gz /
> and afterwards trying to untar the directory I receive the error-message:
>   tar::Cannot mkdir: No such file or directory
>
> Typing tar tf test.tar the list shows me:
>
> /
> /boot
> /root
> [...]
>
> I do not understand why tar is adding the first entry "/" to the archieve
> and I cannot find a way how to prevent tar from doing this.

Try

cd /
tar cvfz test.tar.gz .

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Re: gpg & mutt

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 the mental interface of 
S.D.A. told:

> On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 06:27:17PM +0100 or thereabouts, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 the mental interface of 
> > S.D.A. told:
> > 
> > > I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).
> > > 
> > > The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've
> > > been reading the Fine Manual, but it doesn't really go into, this is how
> > > one does this...for PGP/GPG anyway.
> > > 
> > > FWIW, when I attempt to sign, this is echo'ed " Can't sign: No key
> > > specified. use sign(as)"
> > 
> > Is your default key defined  in ~/.gnupg/options ?
> 
> Elimar,
> 
> Wierd, I don't seem to have an 'options' file. I'll see if it's
> somewhere else.

 Did you install the gnupg package?  There must be a options.skel in
 the distribution like in /usr/share/gnupg or
 /usr/locale/share/gnupg. Copy that file to your $HOME/.gnupg as
 $HOME/.gnupg/options and fix your keyserver, defaultkey etc in that
 file.  Also you need the gpg.rc.gz out of the mutt doc-distro
 unziped and copied to your $HOME/.mutt/muttrc.gpg. In .mutt/muttrc
 you have to notice mutt by source ~/.mutt/muttrc.gpg by that file.

 Thats my way and it works perfect ;-)

 HTH

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Re: tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Oliver Fuchs:
> 
> I want to tar my whole / directory.
> 
> I do 
>   tar cvfz  test.tar.gz /
> and afterwards trying to untar the directory I receive the error-message:
>   tar::Cannot mkdir: No such file or directory

Check the manpage.  The "f" switch is used to tell tar that the next
parameter is the file to use:

   tar cvzf test.tar.gz /

Instead, cd to someplace with some space, then run it.

> Typing tar tf test.tar the list shows me:
> 
> /
> /boot
> /root
> [...]
> 
> I do not understand why tar is adding the first entry "/" to the archieve
> and I cannot find a way how to prevent tar from doing this.

By default, tar doesn't, so you must have done something wrong.  Try:

   cd /
   tar cvzf /somewhere/test.tgz .
   cd /somewhere
   tar tvzf test.tgz

Note the "."  btw, tarring the whole root dir will tar the entire
filesystem, including everything that's mounted off the root
filesystem.  man tar to find out how not to do that.


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Xfree 4.4 is out

[Antonio Rodriguez]

Great news! 4.4 version is out. 

http://www.xfree.org/#newrel

Finally my card is there (ati radeon 9800)


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tar cvfz test.tar.gz / gives error while untaring

[Oliver Fuchs]

Hi,

I want to tar my whole / directory.

I do 
tar cvfz  test.tar.gz /
and afterwards trying to untar the directory I receive the error-message:
tar::Cannot mkdir: No such file or directory

Typing tar tf test.tar the list shows me:

/
/boot
/root
[...]

I do not understand why tar is adding the first entry "/" to the archieve
and I cannot find a way how to prevent tar from doing this.

Oliver
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Re: changing to debian from slackware

[Lucas Albers]

Joel Kaasinen said:
> Hi,
>
> I have an old dual 133mhz pentium server (64mb ram, ~8Gb scsi harddisk)
> with
> slackware 9.1 installed.


>So now I'm seriously thinking about switching to debian.
>
> Any tips (I want to keep my config the same and avoid reconffin')?
> Differences between debian and slack?
> Comments?
I'v seen numerous slack users switch to debian.
You could install debootstrap on the system and then do a debian chroot
install. Google about it.

Install debian on another system first, I use bonzai linux debian
installer for easier installation. It just uses the 2.4.20 kernel with
auto-detection of hardware enabled. Still allows me to use a stable
system.
Just determine the list of services you want to convert and then copy conf
files to your new debian install.
You need to determine what services are used on the system, eg,
mail server webserver, etc.
This sort of change is work, no way around it.
Don't go to the 2.6 kernel yet, you would have to be smoking crack to go
to a new kernel until it hits the 2.6.10 release for production systems.
Just my conservative opinion.
Only do upgrades or switch os's if you have a compelling reason, even a
security fix is not compelling, if you have no local users.
Stability is the single most important quality.
With that said, it is _much_ easier to admin debian boxes than redhat boxes.
Easier to setup a rh box with hardware/raid detection.
Much easier to install/remove configure packages resolve dependencies on
debian.  No more dependency hell. Packages are also (imo) much more stable
and tested.

I still have systems running redhat 7.2 with the 2.4.9 kernel that are
doing looong running computational jobs. It works and is not remotelly
exploitable, so I keep using it.
Part of the debian philosophy (imo) applied to general linux servers.
If it works, don't touch it.

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Problem installing Debian onto Proliant server

[Douglas A. Paquette Jr.]

To whom it may concern at Debian,
 
I have a Compaq Proliant 8000 server with 4 Ultra 
320 10k 72.8 gig scsi hard drives.
 
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliant8000/
 
I had a guy from a computer store successfully 
install debian into my proliant 8000 but ran into some problems between my 
webmaster and this guy and this guy will not tell me anything as to how he got 
it installed.
 
I want to format and reinstall debian into my 
proliant 8000 again for a fresh install but for some reason Debian is not 
detecting any hard drives during the first part of the install 
process.
 
I have setup raid 5 array and a system partition 
using Compaq's Smart Start CD and still it does not detect any 
drives.
 
I have even wiped out all the data and installed 
the debian cd with no drives partitioned, no raid, no array config or anything 
and still no go.
 
Is there anyone who has any experience installing 
debian on proliant servers who could help me out with this.
 
I have done everything i know of to 
do.
 
I have no problem installing Red hat linux version 
9, it detects the drives and the raid config without hesitation.
 
But debian doesnt.
 
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Thanks for your time.
 
Sincerely,
 
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Re: New paradigm for Linux distributions?

[Joel Konkle-Parker]

David Clymer wrote:
On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 15:50, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

I posted a small article on a possible future for Linux distributions: 
http://ballsome.com

Thoughts?



Perhaps I'm just dense, but what's new here? To me, Ian's "plan" sounds
like a fairly good description of debian with "lets all use the same
package format" thrown in (another old idea). How is debian NOT
componentized? Doesn't debian already have a repository of packages
based on apt? Doesnt debian already support the installation of a "core"
system, and then allow one to download any specific components/software
one needs?
I'm not saying that any of this is a bad idea, but why start another
project when one can get the same thing by just using debian?
Perhaps others can tell me what it is about these concepts that I'm
missing.
Well, I guess the difference here (in my idea, anyway) is that the main 
repository wouldn't be under the control of a single distribution. It'd 
be a central repository used by all participating distributions.

Currently, Debian's repository is just that - Debian's repository. Yeah, 
it's very large, and very open to others, but it's still Debian's. I 
guess if you consider Debian's as "the world's", then we're already there.

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Re: a good mirror to download sarge

[Lucas Albers]

Didier Caamano said:
> I'm wondering if any of you know a good mirror, preferably from Canada to
> download sarge, the isos or the network image? if the mirror is in the US
> I wouldn't mind either.

run apt-spy to find fast mirror.
install apt-cacher to cache all apt requests.
apt-cacher speeds up apt a lot!, and saves debian.org bandwidth.

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Re: please help apt upgrade issue openoffice locales

[developer]

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I am running a debian woody mixing stable and testing and very random
>> few
>> unstable packages with the 2.4.24 kernel.  I just did an apt-get -u
>> dist-upgrade and there was a couple upgrades none seemed very
>> significant
>> but it bombed out at the end. Now it bombs out everytime i do an upgrade
>> and a couple things seem broken like my openoffice stopped working.
>> Seems
>> to be a conflict with the xlibmesa3 upgrade and my existing
>> libGLU.so.1.3
>> package?
>>
>> Here is the output:
>> S# apt-get -u dist-upgrade
>> Reading Package Lists... Done
>> Building Dependency Tree... Done
>> Calculating Upgrade... Done
>> The following packages have been kept back:
>>   scrollkeeper
>> The following packages will be upgraded:
>>   xlibmesa3
>> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 0B/3423kB of archives.
>> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
>> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
>> (Reading database ... 61643 files and directories currently installed.)
>> Preparing to replace xlibmesa3 4.1.0-16woody1 (using
>> .../xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody3_i386.deb) ...
>> Unpacking replacement xlibmesa3 ...
>> dpkg: error processing
>> /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody3_i386.deb (--unpack):
>>  trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so.1.3', which is also in
>> package xlibmesa3-glu
>> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
>> Errors were encountered while processing:
>>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody3_i386.deb
>> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
> It sounds like you have to force the install like (one line):
>
> dpkg -i --force-overwrite
> /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa3_4.1.0-16woody3_i386.deb
>
> as root
>
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>
Thanks colin that got me past that message but now I have a host of
problems.  First of all it never completed the upgrade of the scrollkeeper
package now i get:
# apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  scrollkeeper
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

More importantly my openoffice seems to be screwed up i think it had
something to do with perl being upgraded and that somehow screwed up my 
locales.  My locales are just C and POSTFIX but when I run openoffice  I
get:
starting configuration import into user data ..
.. importing layer file:///tmp/oooLocale.yD0zzf - succeeded
I18N: Operating system doesn't support locale ""

If I reconfigure my locales to include en_US.UTF-8 I then get this:
#openoffice
Starting configuration import into user data ..
.. importing layer file:///tmp/oooLocale.tBkvKq - succeeded

And now with the en_US.UTF-8 set to default i get all these funny
characters on lots of screens like the reconfigure screens and man pages. 
I had C set to the default locale before but when you reconfigure it it
doesn't seem to be an option to fix the funky characters i have to
reconfigure locales and remove en_US.UTF-8.  I tried removing and purging
openoffice and reinstalling with no luck.

Please help
-ryan

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Re: via-rhine (or rhinefelt) and VT6105/VT6103 driver problems with Debian stable

[Chris Evans]

On 29 Feb 2004 at 6:10, Nick Jacobs wrote:

> I also needed to use the via-rhine driver with
> Woody. I used the one from the Scyld site. There
> are some minor things to fix but basically the
> Scyld driver will solve your problems.

By the time I got Nick's very helpful post I had discovered that the 
damn LOM was switched off in the BIOS: switching it on gets me one of 
the two ports with the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel via-rhine module but not 
both and I do need both.

So, I got the kernel-header package (so that's where modversions.h 
was hiding in I've probably looked through umpteen things telling me 
that ... but, to be fair to myself, I did search around and whatever 
explains this didn't leap up and hit me).

I also downloaded and compiled via-rhine.c and pc-scan.c.  For the 
former I had to hard code he location of modversions.h for the 
latter, the explicit -include parameter suggested on the Scyle site 
seemed to do the trick.  I now have the two executables: via-rhine.o 
and pci-scan.o.  I can see where I'd have to put the via-rhine one to 
replace the bf2.4 supplied one but the pci-scan.o file isn't there in 
the Debian distribution?  Does that need to be modprobed in 
somewhere?  

Anyway, more serious problems: I moved supplied via-rhine.o and 
replaced it with new one but no joy:  

/lib/modules/2.4.18-bf2.4/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.o: kernel-
module version mismatch
/lib/modules/2.4.18-bf2.4/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.o was 
compiled for kernel version 2.4.18
while this kernel is version 2.4.18-bf2.4.

Presumably there's something I should have done in the compilation to 
make sure it recorded the correct version ID?  Can anyone tell me 
what?

TIA,

Chris

P.S. continuing to cross-post to get this well archived, including my 
embarrassment about the BIOS, and thanks to everyone who's helped 
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Re: gpg & mutt

[s. keeling]

Incoming from S.D.A.:
> On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 10:36:21AM -0700 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote:
> > 
> > fwiw, mine isn't (I've been told you probably don't want this) and
> > mine works.
> 
> Hm, what entries did you need in your .muttrc? I'm also puzzled as to

See my other post in this thread.  They all came from /etc/Muttrc.


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Re: via-rhine (or rhinefelt) and VT6105/VT6103 driver problems with Debian stable

[Chris Evans]

On 29 Feb 2004 at 13:28, Steven Leach wrote:

> Which Via board are you running?
I believe it is a CL1000
 
> I have two set up, a CL6000 Dual Lan for my server and an M1 as a
> little desktop cube.
Aha, you lucky man you!
 
> Debian 3.0r2 had no problem with the M1 (single ethernet) using
> the via-rhine driver.  On the dual lan, however, only eth0 was
> recognized.  
Yup, that's my experience now I've realised (mass of egg pulled off 
face and dumped in sink) that the damn LOM was switched off the BIOS 
on the machine - hadn't realised that this could be done in my 
innocence and baffled why the suppliers supplied it like that.

> Upgraded to sid (possibly not necessary but I was planning on it
> anyway) and compiled a 2.6.0-test11 kernel and all was good (oddly
> enough what had been eth0 was now eth1 and the one that had been
> previously unrecognized was now eth0). 
I'm very reluctant to go this way as the machine is my first line 
defence against the internet and so having the Debian security 
upgrades guaranteed adds to my capacity to sleep at night ... hence 
at moment I'm pursuing compiling the latest via-rhine driver module 
from the source code from the Scyld site with some support from Nick 
Jacobs (see separate posting).
 
> Also, the current sarge/sid installers are unusable with the m1
> (never tried it with the cl6000 though) but it is no problem since you
> can just dist-upgrade from Woody.  The Woody installer works
> flawlessly.
Hm, I may end up going there I suppose as I'm reluctant to spend over 
100 pounds on a quad port card when I've got the three ports I need 
already in principle!  (Though thanks to others for excellent advice 
on those opitions).  May come back to this yet though.

Thanks Steven and everyone else,

Chris
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Re: OT: establish private network (no wires)

[Brett Carrington]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 06:54:54PM +0100, Karsten Bolding wrote:
> Hello 
> 
> I'm seeking advice on a technical matter. I want to establish a
> private (wireless) network in an area of say 5x5 km2. In this area there
> are a number of vehicles moving around and each of the vehicles should
> constantly - every second - be updated about the position of the other
> vehicles (obtained via GPS). In addition to the position other types of
> data might need to be exchanged/distributed as well. 
> Each of the vehicles will have a laptop onboard which will be used for
> processing the information obtained from the other vehicles.
> Since it is not possible to cover the area with normal wireless access points 
> I'm seeking another carrier of the signal. GSM/GPRS is not really an 
> option either due to the cost of having around 25 phones running 24/7. 
> Does anybody know of another technical solution which I can use to create 
> such a network?
Regular "Wireless access points" (as in 802.11x) can _absolutely_ cover
this distance. All you need is a good antenna and powerful transmitter.
In America you need a license to transmit as very high powers so you
should check with your local govt. I bet if you looked around your neck
of the woods for amateur radio operators they'd be glad to explain how
to do this. There are other solutions too, like short wave radio or the
like. Using regular commodity WiFi however will be easiest to integrate
with laptops though.


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Re: gpg & mutt

[S.D.A.]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 10:36:21AM -0700 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from Elimar Riesebieter:
> > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 the mental interface of 
> > S.D.A. told:
> > 
> > > I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).
> > > 
> > > The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've
> > > been reading the Fine Manual, but it doesn't really go into, this is how
> > > one does this...for PGP/GPG anyway.
> > > 
> > > FWIW, when I attempt to sign, this is echo'ed " Can't sign: No key
> > > specified. use sign(as)"
> > 
> > Is your default key defined  in ~/.gnupg/options ?
> 
> fwiw, mine isn't (I've been told you probably don't want this) and
> mine works.

Hm, what entries did you need in your .muttrc? I'm also puzzled as to
how one goes about using the different keys one has with different
reply-hooks.


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Re: gpg & mutt

[S.D.A.]

On Sun, Feb 29, 2004 at 06:27:17PM +0100 or thereabouts, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 the mental interface of 
> S.D.A. told:
> 
> > I'm having some difficulty getting pgp to work with mutt (1.5.6).
> > 
> > The problem I'm having is that mutt can't seem to find my keys. I've
> > been reading the Fine Manual, but it doesn't really go into, this is how
> > one does this...for PGP/GPG anyway.
> > 
> > FWIW, when I attempt to sign, this is echo'ed " Can't sign: No key
> > specified. use sign(as)"
> 
> Is your default key defined  in ~/.gnupg/options ?

Elimar,

Wierd, I don't seem to have an 'options' file. I'll see if it's
somewhere else.


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Re: Kernel 2.6.3 again

[Kai Schindelka]

Pigeon wrote:
* Is it sufficient, or did I miss something?
I would add to Andreas's list: libsysfs and sysfsutils. These were
mentioned in a thread Google found for me on lkml, along with procps,
as being update candidates for getting rid of the error message
"Unknown HZ value! (xx) Assuming 100."
I have seen this messages appearing, too. See my other message for a
conclusion. Thanks for your answer!
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RE: LILO

[MacNean Tyrrell]

-Original Message-
From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 12:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LILO

On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 10:10:29PM -0500, MacNean Tyrrell wrote:

>my lilo seems to be screwed up, it
>boots and I get some OS/2 thing, I even tried reinstalling debian from
>
>
net,

>it ejects the disk and reboots and same thing.  What do I do?
>

MacNean Tyrrell wrote:

>I don't think I made a rescue disk.  Am I totally screwed?
>
>

No. Boot up off your installer CD, go through the installation as far as
mounting / and /usr, but DO NOT partition/initialize (skip those steps).
Then shell out via Alt-F2. Run "chroot /target". Now you can edit
/etc/lilo.conf to fix whatever problems it has, then run "lilo". "exit",
Alt-F1 back to the installer, choose "Reboot system" and remove the
installer CD. Hopefully you're now fixed. If not, provide more info
(error messages, etc) (and please, don't top post).

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Thanks I got LILO running now and everything is working (except sound
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RE: Sound and Linux Kernel 2.6

[MacNean Tyrrell]

-Original Message-
From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andreas Janssen
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 5:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sound and Linux Kernel 2.6

Hello

MacNean Tyrrell (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> Ok so I have Debian installed, and I like it a lot, but I can't get
> the sound card to work, can't even get ALSA to work.  So I decided to
> just run Knoppix from the CD drive, and it successfully detects my
> sound card, and it works there. I really don't want to use Knoppix,
> just want to use Debian sarge. But without sound, kinda not useful
> for some other things I want to do (ie MythTV). So I know that the
> linux kernel 2.6 has ALSA already built in, found a website that
> walked me through it but it didn't work. I reboot and LILO is really
> screwed up.  Anyone have some suggestions. Especially how to update
> sarge to kernel 2.6.  Thanks and would appreciate it.
>
> -DarDack
>
> btw I do have a supported sound card, esnoiqs 1370, snd-es1370 (or
> ens1370 can't remember right now). In debian if I click on the sound
> icon, it says can't find /dev/mixer/sound or /dev/sound/mixer  no
> device exists. Don't know if that helps. Thanks.

Both the snd-Driver (alsa) and the other one should work. I won't go
into details here, but you have to tell the system to load the driver.
Add

es1370

to /etc/modules to load the OSS driver. Or add a line

alias sound-slot-0 es1370

to /etc/modprobe.d/aliases (Kernel 2.6) and /etc/modutils/aliases
(Kernel 2.4). Run update-modules (2.6) and update-modules.modutils
(2.4).

And don't forget to add yourself to the audio group. Otherwise you will
get "Permission denied" after loading the driver.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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  I'm gonna try it without updated to the 2.6 kernel, I'll stick with the
2.4
   ok to just put es1370 to /etc/modules?
Than add alias sound-slot-0 es1370 to /etc/modutils/aliases  than run
update-modules.modutils
But how do I add myself to the audio group?
And sorry about top posting before.  Thanks.


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Re: Kernel 2.6.3 again

[Kai Schindelka]

  Hello Andreas;

Kai Schindelka (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
Ok. My name's not Wes, but I've got some questions anyway. :)
Please start your own thread next time instead of answering a message in
an existing thread.
my apology. I thought it would be the best to keep the topics together,
but I have already read why it's better to do it the other way.
* Is the updating of the above packages really necessary?

From /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.3/Documentation/changes:
o  Gnu C  2.95.3
o  Gnu make   3.78
o  binutils   2.12
o  util-linux 2.10o
The above packages in Woody are recent enough. util-linux in Woody
however can't handle the new cryptoloop/cryptoapi, so if you want to
use encrypted loopback devices with the drivers included in 2.6,
upgrade util-linux.
Ok, that makes one package more.

o  module-init-tools  0.9.10
o  e2fsprogs  1.29
module-init-tools is not included in Woody, you need it to load modules
for 2.6.
Yes, that's why I had added the backports.org source in the first
place.
The e2fsprogs version in Woody is too old (may keep working
with existing file systems, but maybe you could get problems with new
ext2/ext3 file systems).
Looks like it keeps working with existing ones. I found no problems, but
didn't create new ones either. It's better to upgrade, I'd say.
o  jfsutils   1.1.3
o  reiserfsprogs  3.6.3
o  xfsprogs   2.6.0
o  pcmcia-cs  3.1.21
o  quota-tools3.09
I didn't check the above package, I don't use them.
Same with me.

o  PPP2.4.0

This one is okay.
Thanks.

o  isdn4k-utils   3.1pre1
o  nfs-utils  1.0.5
Didn't check.
Don't need them, but I will keep that in mind.

o  procps 3.1.13

Needs to be upgraded.
Yes, I have read about that.

o  oprofile   0.5.3

Don't know.
Ok.

* Is it sufficient, or did I miss something?
If I compare the lists, you should also upgrade e2fsprogs.
So the complete list would be in my case:

hdparm
e2fsprogs
libsysfs
module-init-tools
net-tools
procps
sysfsutils
util-linux
libsysfs and sysfsutils were mentioned by Pigeon. That is too much for a 
productive environment, since I don't know nothing about possible side 
effects. I'll stick with 2.4.25, but many thanks for your answer anyway.

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Re: cdrecord and kernel 2.4 problem

[Werner Mahr]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Am Sonntag, 29. Februar 2004 11:43 schrieb Nejc Novak:

> Fixating...
> WARNING: Some drives don't like fixation in dummy mode.

There is no problme. You simulate only the burn process. And the Program says, 
that some drives don't like this. Try it without the simulate option:

cdrecord: -dummy
cdrdao: simulate

and check if the CD is burned. If not, then you have a problem.

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Werner Mahr
registered Linuxuser: 295882
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Re: via-rhine (or rhinefelt) and VT6105/VT6103 driver problems with Debian stable

[Steven Leach]

Which Via board are you running?

I have two set up, a CL6000 Dual Lan for my server and an M1 as a 
little desktop cube.

Debian 3.0r2 had no problem with the M1 (single ethernet) using the 
via-rhine driver.  On the dual lan, however, only eth0 was recognized.  
Upgraded to sid (possibly not necessary but I was planning on it 
anyway) and compiled a 2.6.0-test11 kernel and all was good (oddly 
enough what had been eth0 was now eth1 and the one that had been 
previously unrecognized was now eth0).

Also, the current sarge/sid installers are unusable with the m1 
(never tried it with the cl6000 though) but it is no problem since you 
can just dist-upgrade from Woody.  The Woody installer works 
flawlessly.

Good luck.

On Feb 28, 2004, at 7:14 PM, Chris Evans wrote:

I hope I can get some help on this list as I've dug myself in a hole
I think.
I run debian stable (3.0r2) for a small home set up on ADSL that
handles Email (closed opt in!) for some charities. I've used old
hardware for a firewall and a server but the firewall is dying and I
replaced it with a lovely, small, near silent box with a VIA EPIA
mini-ITX motherboard which has two LAN ports controlled by a VT6105
on board controller.  If I stick a tried and tested realtek 8139
clone PCI card in I can have the three ports I want 
Having always used old hardware and never hit compatibility problems
I didn't realise I was asking for trouble.  The 2.4.18 kernel is the
latest in the Debian stable distro and I want to stick with Debian
'cos I know and trust it, and stable 'cos of the security updates,
particularly important as this is firewall.  Trouble is that I think
the driver I need is a via-rhine one but the one that comes with that
Debian kernel won't install (the rtl one does fine!).  I've tried
pulling the driver (rhinefet) off the VIA motherboard site and the
via-rhine off the scyld site but I'm hopelessly out of my depth now
as there are clearly old and vexatious issues about the ways that
different distros store the headers and source, e.g. both VIA and
scyld's Makefiles and source want a modversions.h file that clearly
doesn't exist in Debian .. I've tried to work round that but modprobe
on the via-rhine.o I finally produced gives all sorts of unresolved
symbol complaints and I know I'm out of my league here.
Can anyone help?  The only alternative I can see looming is to spend
about a third as much as I paid for the entire machine on a totally
unnecessarily fast quadport Intel card (I need three ports and only
have one free PCI slot as the machine is so small).
Sod, sod, sod: I'll take hardware compatibility more seriously in
future won't I?!
TIA,

Chris

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