date:20090719


ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

Just got an ASRock A780GXE/128M, and it seems to have difficulty seeing more
than 4 devices.  (I've got 4 SATA HDDs, a SATA DVD-RW and a PATA HDD.) 
 
Here are my needs: 
- AM2 socket 
- ATX form factor, 
- 6 (or even 8) SATA sockets, 
- 4 DIMM slots. 
 
On-board 1394 would be useful. 
 
The A780GXE has all those features, but apparently doesn't implement them well.  
Just in order to get it to boot from CD-ROM (I'm now running from an Ubuntu 9.04 
Live CD), I had to disconnect the lone PATA drive.
 
I'd break down and get an AM2+ CPU if the mobo were *great* and didn't support 
AM2. 


Also, I'm running Sid with 2.6.30, so "modern" doesn't scare me.
 
Thanks






I have had the best luck with ASUS and MSI MBs.

My advice is, if you are forced into getting not just a new board, but a 
 new CPU as well, for a desktop machine, then you would be better off 
with rethinking the brand loyalty.


Right now, much as I hate to admit it, Intel X58/Core i7 is the way to 
go.  The Core i7 920 is a very good good price v. performance choice, 
and it overclocks very well.  I like the ASUS P6T Deluxe V2, a Core i7 
board I have successfully installed 5 times, so far.  Debian runs fine, 
with a recent enough kernel.


The down side is, the memory is DDR3, so you can't reuse the old sticks. 
 But, you can put in six of them!  Garden-variety sticks from OCZ or 
somewhere will take it to 12GB, or you can pay a premium, go with 4 Gig 
sticks, and have 24GB.


(If you like to overclock, though, stick with three memory sticks.  Yes, 
three, not two or four.  The LGA 1366 processors---i.e., Core i7s---are 
triple-channel, they have an onboard memory controller that supports 
three memory channels.  Anyway, higher clocks on all-slots-filled 
configurations are not supported.)


I have installed one GigaByte X58/i7 board, the EX58-UD5, and I dislike 
it.  Not recommended.


Core i7 boards are somewhat pricy, though.  The new P55 chipset is 
cheaper, and it supports the new Lynnfield CPU, that is, the core i5 
chips.  i5 just has double-channel support, so less costly to get 
started.  But I have no experience with them.


The point being that an Intel chip is, in my opinion, the current 
overall winner.



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Re: kernel compile - Unable to mount root fs

2009-07-19 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Soren Orel wrote:
> hmmm.. it works, but I have to hit Ctrl+D at every boot... :D

On some of your vmlinux lines in your menu.lst you have the word
"single".  That boots you into single-user mode, that you exit from by
hitting Ctrl-D.

Remove just the word "single" and you should be good to go.

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Reliable remote logging with rsyslog on lenny

2009-07-19 Thread Cameron Hutchison

I'm trying to set up a couple of boxes that both run lenny (stable) for
remote logging. I have installed rsyslog on both boxes. One is to be the
log server, the other I want to log remotely to the log server.

According to the package description of rsyslog, it does "reliable
syslog over TCP". According to the rsyslog homepage, this reliable
logging is RELP and can be enabled on the server like this:

$ModLoad imrelp
$InputRELPServerRun 2514

and on the client like this:

*.* :omrelp:192.168.0.1:2514

(where 192.168.0.1 is the address of the log server)

I cannot get this to work.

>From what I can tell with netstat, rsyslogd is not listening on port
2514 on the server. The package also looks like it does not contain the
modules imrelp and omrelp - but I'm not sure about this. There aren't
any .so files for them in the module directory, but they may be built in
instead.

How do I enable the reliable logging feature of rsyslog?


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Extract attachments from message/partial emails

2009-07-19 Thread Andre Majorel

Anyone knows of a program, preferably command line, that can
extract attachments from a mailbox file full of message/partial
emails ?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo


On 2009-07-19 02:51, Mark Allums wrote:

ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
Just got an ASRock A780GXE/128M, and it seems to have difficulty 
seeing more
than 4 devices.  (I've got 4 SATA HDDs, a SATA DVD-RW and a PATA HDD.)  
Here are my needs: - AM2 socket - ATX form factor, - 6 (or even 8) 
SATA sockets, - 4 DIMM slots.  
On-board 1394 would be useful.  
The A780GXE has all those features, but apparently doesn't implement 
them well.  Just in order to get it to boot from CD-ROM (I'm now 
running from an Ubuntu 9.04 Live CD), I had to disconnect the lone 
PATA drive. 
I'd break down and get an AM2+ CPU if the mobo were *great* and didn't 
support AM2.

Also, I'm running Sid with 2.6.30, so "modern" doesn't scare me.
 
Thanks






I have had the best luck with ASUS and MSI MBs.

My advice is, if you are forced into getting not just a new board, but a 
 new CPU as well, for a desktop machine, then you would be better off 
with rethinking the brand loyalty.


Right now, much as I hate to admit it, Intel X58/Core i7 is the way to 
go.  The Core i7 920 is a very good good price v. performance choice, 
and it overclocks very well.  I like the ASUS P6T Deluxe V2, a Core i7 
board I have successfully installed 5 times, so far.  Debian runs fine, 
with a recent enough kernel.


The down side is, the memory is DDR3, so you can't reuse the old sticks. 
 But, you can put in six of them!  Garden-variety sticks from OCZ or 
somewhere will take it to 12GB, or you can pay a premium, go with 4 Gig 
sticks, and have 24GB.


That's impressive and a half...

(If you like to overclock, though, stick with three memory sticks.  Yes, 
three, not two or four.  The LGA 1366 processors---i.e., Core i7s---are 
triple-channel, they have an onboard memory controller that supports 
three memory channels.  Anyway, higher clocks on all-slots-filled 
configurations are not supported.)


I have installed one GigaByte X58/i7 board, the EX58-UD5, and I dislike 
it.  Not recommended.


Core i7 boards are somewhat pricy, though.  The new P55 chipset is 
cheaper, and it supports the new Lynnfield CPU, that is, the core i5 
chips.  i5 just has double-channel support, so less costly to get 
started.  But I have no experience with them.


The point being that an Intel chip is, in my opinion, the current 
overall winner.


I looked into Intel, but I'm trying to reuse the CPU and RAM.

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Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo


On 2009-07-18 21:50, Wayne Topa wrote:

lee wrote:

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:41:03AM -0400, ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

 Wayne Topa  wrote:
[snip]

I recently had to replace a MD and ended up with a Gigabyte
GA-MA790X-UD4P. It meets or exceeds your specs and was not as expensive
as I had expected (newegg)


[snip]

8 x SATA 3GB connectors

[snip]

Working like a champ here.

Thanks.  I'll look into it.


Whatever you do, stay and run away from Gigabyte. They make the
crappiest boards I've seen (two out of three over the years totally
broken, the third one is defective and troublesome), their support
sucks, and they have a huge, massive, unbelievable bug in the BIOS
that will eventually overwrite data on arbitrary disks.

I made the mistake to buy a Gigabyte though I knew better, but it was
cheaper ... I have the buggy BIOS (they are using the same in a lot of
their boards), the BIOS has definitely overwritten data on one of my
disks and is unable to recognize two my SATA disks when AHCI is
enabled. I'm extremely pissed with them and if I had money to spare,
I'd have replaced the board with an MSI board.


Uh-oh, because before reading this, I ordered a GA-MA780G-UD3H.


I've seen and had a number of MSI boards and never had any problems
with them. I'll never buy Gigabyte again.




Not according to Toms Hardware page.  He rated them a best buy when I 
check the net for review of that board.


YMMV but this board has been running for 3 months without a hitch.


We'll see

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how to increase sound volume of a mp3 file

2009-07-19 Thread Long Wind

I have a mp3 file
When I play it, the sound volume is too low even  if I set highest
volume in sound mixer
Is there any utility that change mp3 file?
I use sarge and etch
Thanks!


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Re: how to increase sound volume of a mp3 file

2009-07-19 Thread Jochen Schulz

Long Wind:
>
> I have a mp3 file
> When I play it, the sound volume is too low even  if I set highest
> volume in sound mixer
> Is there any utility that change mp3 file?

mp3gain can be used to make several files have the same peak volume.

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Re: how to increase sound volume of a mp3 file

2009-07-19 Thread Robert Robert

I use cooledit. But its a commercial program and probably you don't want a 
commercial program

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From: Long Wind 
Subject: how to increase sound volume of a mp3 file
To: "debian-user" 
Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 10:19 AM

I have a mp3 file
When I play it, the sound volume is too low even  if I set highest
volume in sound mixer
Is there any utility that change mp3 file?
I use sarge and etch
Thanks!

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Re: kernel compile - Unable to mount root fs

2009-07-19 Thread Siggy Brentrup

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 01:13 -0700, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Soren Orel wrote:
> > hmmm.. it works, but I have to hit Ctrl+D at every boot... :D
> 
> On some of your vmlinux lines in your menu.lst you have the word
> "single".  That boots you into single-user mode, that you exit from by
> hitting Ctrl-D.
> 
> Remove just the word "single" and you should be good to go.
> 
> Don Quixote

Lucky Don Quixote :), obviously you never have been hitten by fsck not
being able to cope with a broken FS.  In such a situation the machine
automagically boots into single user mode.

Maybe it should be made clearer that you're at your own risk when
hitting C-d.  I'd never do that on a production box or when the
FS contains valuable data.

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Re: kernel compile - Unable to mount root fs

2009-07-19 Thread Soren Orel

It only brings up this error message on a VirtualBox machine.. :D
I tried to compile the vanillia kernel on two other machines, and it worked,
booted without error.. :)
The VirtualBox machine was only to try, how it works, thank you!

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Siggy Brentrup wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 01:13 -0700, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Soren Orel wrote:
> > > hmmm.. it works, but I have to hit Ctrl+D at every boot... :D
> >
> > On some of your vmlinux lines in your menu.lst you have the word
> > "single".  That boots you into single-user mode, that you exit from by
> > hitting Ctrl-D.
> >
> > Remove just the word "single" and you should be good to go.
> >
> > Don Quixote
>
> Lucky Don Quixote :), obviously you never have been hitten by fsck not
> being able to cope with a broken FS.  In such a situation the machine
> automagically boots into single user mode.
>
> Maybe it should be made clearer that you're at your own risk when
> hitting C-d.  I'd never do that on a production box or when the
> FS contains valuable data.
>
> Siggy
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Re: automatically reduce screen brightness with xfce when on battery

2009-07-19 Thread Peter Jordan

Celejar, Mon Jul 13 2009 21:04:03 GMT+0200 (CEST) :
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:06:56 +0300
> Micha Feigin  wrote:
> 
>> There used to be a control in xfce4-power-manager to allow resucing screen
>> brightness when working on battery but it has been removed in recent 
>> versions.
>> Any other way to achieve the same goal?
> 
> I don't know if this is helpful, but the package laptop-mode-tools is
> designed to invoke scripts upon various power events, such as a switch
> to and from battery, so if you can figure out some cli / script method
> to control the brightness, it should be simple to hook it in.
> 
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you can try brightd:

http://www.pberndt.com/Programme/Linux/brightd/index.html

no deb packages available but a closed ITP (#419329).

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Re: kernel compile - Unable to mount root fs

> hmmm.. it works, but I have to hit Ctrl+D at every boot... :D
>
> http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5726/screenshotual.png
>

You got that error using make-kpkg, or just as a general kernel error?


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kvm fails on debian 5.01

2009-07-19 Thread Zachary Uram

Setting up kvm (1:84+dfsg-0ubuntu12.3) ...
 * Loading kvm module kvm_amd

 FATAL: Error inserting kvm_amd
(/lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kvm/kvm-amd.ko):
Operation not supported


  [fail]
invoke-rc.d: initscript kvm, action "start" failed.

My machine is AMD Athlon 64-bit but 32-bit kernel is installed.

r...@hyperyoda:~# uname -a
Linux hyperyoda 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 19:49:51
UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

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Re: how to increase sound volume of a mp3 file

> I have a mp3 file
> When I play it, the sound volume is too low even  if I set highest
> volume in sound mixer
> Is there any utility that change mp3 file?
> I use sarge and etch
> Thanks!
>

I'm not sure about changing the actual file, but I know that if you use
VLC to play mp3 files, you can boost the volume to 200%.


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Re: kernel compile - Unable to mount root fs

> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 01:13 -0700, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Soren Orel wrote:
>> > hmmm.. it works, but I have to hit Ctrl+D at every boot... :D
>>
>> On some of your vmlinux lines in your menu.lst you have the word
>> "single".  That boots you into single-user mode, that you exit from by
>> hitting Ctrl-D.
>>
>> Remove just the word "single" and you should be good to go.
>>
>> Don Quixote
>
> Lucky Don Quixote :), obviously you never have been hitten by fsck not
> being able to cope with a broken FS.  In such a situation the machine
> automagically boots into single user mode.
>
> Maybe it should be made clearer that you're at your own risk when
> hitting C-d.  I'd never do that on a production box or when the
> FS contains valuable data.
>
> Siggy

This is OT, but I remember my first day away at school. I bought a new
EeePC months earlier, installed Debian on it, prepared my install for my
CS classes...then when I got to my first class, I booted up only to have a
jfs error. It took me an hour or so to figure out how to fix.



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Re: kernel compile - Unable to mount root fs

> hmmm.. it works, but I have to hit Ctrl+D at every boot... :D
>
> http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5726/screenshotual.png
>

You got that error using make-kpkg, or just as a general kernel error?


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Re: how to increase sound volume of a mp3 file

2009-07-19 Thread Long Wind

Thanks to all those that reply!
I install mp3gain on etch
It increase sound volume though I am not fully satisfied.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:19 AM,  wrote:
>> I have a mp3 file
>> When I play it, the sound volume is too low even  if I set highest
>> volume in sound mixer
>> Is there any utility that change mp3 file?
>> I use sarge and etch
>> Thanks!
>>
>
> I'm not sure about changing the actual file, but I know that if you use
> VLC to play mp3 files, you can boost the volume to 200%.
>
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remount removeable drive in Lenny - how?

2009-07-19 Thread Paul E Condon

I have no objection to the status of hal as a required part of a
standard desktop installation, but I do have a question as to how best
to deal with a peculiar situation.

I have several USB hard drives (ones with rotating machinery inside,
not solid state 'disks'). From time to time I need to perform format
maintenance on one of them. In order to do this, I look in /dev to see
what device name has been assigned to the drive, umount it, and do
whatever - e2fsck, tune2fs, etc. But when I'm finish doing
maintenance, how to I remount it without pulling the USB cable,
waiting a while, and reinserting the cable? Is there a console command
that I can type that avoids the extra wear on the fragile little
connectors and plugs? I'm looking for something that retriggers the
look-up of volume label and the creation of a mount-point in /media as
was there before I started mucking about.

Or is there another way to do the maintenance without umounting? (not
likely, I think)

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Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how?

2009-07-19 Thread Jochen Schulz

Paul E Condon:
> 
> I have several USB hard drives (ones with rotating machinery inside,
> not solid state 'disks'). From time to time I need to perform format
> maintenance on one of them. In order to do this, I look in /dev to see
> what device name has been assigned to the drive, umount it, and do
> whatever - e2fsck, tune2fs, etc. But when I'm finish doing
> maintenance, how to I remount it without pulling the USB cable,

The actions you listed change neither the partition layout nor
filesystem UUIDs, so you should be able to just mount it again, using
the same device name or UUID as before.

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Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how?

2009-07-19 Thread Paul E Condon

On 2009-07-19_16:42:21, Jochen Schulz wrote:
> Paul E Condon:
> > 
> > I have several USB hard drives (ones with rotating machinery inside,
> > not solid state 'disks'). From time to time I need to perform format
> > maintenance on one of them. In order to do this, I look in /dev to see
> > what device name has been assigned to the drive, umount it, and do
> > whatever - e2fsck, tune2fs, etc. But when I'm finish doing
> > maintenance, how to I remount it without pulling the USB cable,
> 
> The actions you listed change neither the partition layout nor
> filesystem UUIDs, so you should be able to just mount it again, using
> the same device name or UUID as before.

But, for hal-mounted devices, the umount also deletes the mount-point.
If I manually create a mount-point, which I must do prior to
attempting a manual mount, then the next time hal mounts this HD, it
creates a differently named mount point. I find this to be
unclean. And, also a lot of typing. And periodic housekeeping to keep
/media reasonably uncluttered. 

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Re: Extract attachments from message/partial emails

2009-07-19 Thread Arthur Marsh


Andre Majorel wrote, on 2009-07-19 18:10:

Anyone knows of a program, preferably command line, that can
extract attachments from a mailbox file full of message/partial
emails ?

Thanks in advance.



Have you tried munpack from package mpack ?

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Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how?

2009-07-19 Thread Tiago Saboga

Jochen Schulz  writes:

> Paul E Condon:
>> 
>> I have several USB hard drives (ones with rotating machinery inside,
>> not solid state 'disks'). From time to time I need to perform format
>> maintenance on one of them. In order to do this, I look in /dev to see
>> what device name has been assigned to the drive, umount it, and do
>> whatever - e2fsck, tune2fs, etc. But when I'm finish doing
>> maintenance, how to I remount it without pulling the USB cable,
>
> The actions you listed change neither the partition layout nor
> filesystem UUIDs, so you should be able to just mount it again, using
> the same device name or UUID as before.

I've faced the same problem yesterday, and I was not able to solve
it. When I mount/umount manually a device, I am able to mount it
again. But if I mount it in kde, and then ask to safely remove device,
then the device files pointing to the partitions are no longer in /dev/;
and even the device pointing to the whole disk (e.g. /dev/sdf) raises an
error when I do a simple `file -s /dev/sdf`.

>
> J.

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Installing nagios3 on debian4 etch

2009-07-19 Thread Kelly Jones

I want to install nagios3 on my debian4 etch system, but "apt-get
install nagios3" yields "Couldn't find package nagios3".

What should I add to /etc/apt/sources.list?

In general, how do I find which source provides a given package, and
what are good sources to add to sources.list?

I'm running a system of redundant VPSs, so can't upgrade to lenny yet
(not enough providers offer/support it).

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help

2009-07-19 Thread aleksandar angelkovski

hello i have sony vaio VGN-FW140E laptop and i want to install linux ,but i
can't to find the drivers ,so if you can to tell me how to install and where
to find drivers .

thanks a lot

Re: How to get all dependent source packages

2009-07-19 Thread sha liu

2009/7/19 Osamu Aoki 

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 07:46:59PM +0800, sha liu wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >   What I want to do is:
> >   If I want to build a package(for example dpkg) from source, how
> > should I recursively get all the dependent *source* packages of it?
> > This means not only the direct dependency of the package but also the
> > dependent of the dependent...I know "apt-get build-dep" will only
> > *install* the dependent *binary* packages.
>
> Do you really mean "ALL".  You should start with build-essential
> packages if you mean to say all build-dep packages.  But I do not know
> why you do this.  You are doing cross compile.  I do not see point of
> downloading source for all build-dep.

I  just to build the dpkg. So I think getting all source packages of
build-dep is the first step. Then I'll build and install the build-dep and
finally build dpkg. Is this the way to go?

>
>
> I guess this is best answered by reading CLFS itself.  I am no expert.
>
> >   I want to do this because I need to build dpkg on a CLFS system
> > (think it as a minimal linux system without debianization), and it's
> > crazy to download all dependent source packages of dpkg, right?
>
> Not really if you need dpkg as you say for your system. After all you
> asked to have "Cross-Compiled Linux From Scratch" (a.k.a CLFS).
>
Yeah, I just realize that. Thanks for your re-confirmation :-)

>
> If you are building installation image only, you may not need dpkg.

Why not? I thought installation image should prepare all essential  packages
which definitely includes dpkg if it's a Debian image, right?

>
>
> Anyway, please google and ead things like:
>
>  http://cross-lfs.org/view/clfs-embedded/x86/index.html
>
> Osamu




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Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how?

2009-07-19 Thread Andrei Popescu

On Sun,19.Jul.09, 08:11:21, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I have no objection to the status of hal as a required part of a
> standard desktop installation, but I do have a question as to how best
> to deal with a peculiar situation.
> 
> I have several USB hard drives (ones with rotating machinery inside,
> not solid state 'disks'). From time to time I need to perform format
> maintenance on one of them. In order to do this, I look in /dev to see
> what device name has been assigned to the drive, umount it, and do
> whatever - e2fsck, tune2fs, etc. But when I'm finish doing
> maintenance, how to I remount it without pulling the USB cable,
> waiting a while, and reinserting the cable? Is there a console command
> that I can type that avoids the extra wear on the fragile little
> connectors and plugs? I'm looking for something that retriggers the
> look-up of volume label and the creation of a mount-point in /media as
> was there before I started mucking about.

This thread seems interesting

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/re-detectmount-usb-hard-drive-623089/

(the first hit when I googled: hal redetect devices)

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Re: help

2009-07-19 Thread Andrei Popescu

On Sun,19.Jul.09, 17:27:38, aleksandar angelkovski wrote:
> hello i have sony vaio VGN-FW140E laptop and i want to install linux ,but i
> can't to find the drivers ,so if you can to tell me how to install and where
> to find drivers .

A GNU/Linux operating system has most drivers already incorporated in 
the Linux kernel. Try a Debian Live CD[1] to see if your hardware is 
recognized correctly and report back if something doesn't work.

[1] http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/

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Re: How to get all dependent source packages

2009-07-19 Thread Osamu Aoki

Hi,

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 11:34:33PM +0800, sha liu wrote:
> 2009/7/19 Osamu Aoki 
> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 07:46:59PM +0800, sha liu wrote:
> > If you are building installation image only, you may not need dpkg.
> 
> Why not? I thought installation image should prepare all essential  packages
> which definitely includes dpkg if it's a Debian image, right?

I thought you are building binary image file with CLFS.  This is not
Debian installer nor this is any Debian system.  So dpkg is not required.

> > Anyway, please google and ead things like:
> >  http://cross-lfs.org/view/clfs-embedded/x86/index.html

Have you done this?  As I found this now, it is a nice document.

You should also read http://trac.cross-lfs.org/ and their book.

You do not get single line answer if there is book for it.

I think you also need to learn some basics of Debian system by reading
Debian documentations.

Osamu

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Re: Extract attachments from message/partial emails

2009-07-19 Thread Osamu Aoki

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 10:40:06AM +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:
> Anyone knows of a program, preferably command line, that can
> extract attachments from a mailbox file full of message/partial
> emails ?

You basically redeliver mbox to an account where you set up procmail or
maildrop fileter with script to unpack mail such as munpack(1).

For redeliver:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch06.en.html#_redeliver_mbox_contents

For maildrop:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch06.en.html#_maildrop_configuration
 
For munpack(1):
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch11.en.html#_the_mail_data_conversion

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Re: does find has feature to find several names

2009-07-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

In <60f50c4a0907180345s21ecd941w29b8be4319e53...@mail.gmail.com>, Soren Orel 
wrote:
>thank you, but i don't need regex, I'm just searching, that is there a
>shorter way in the find command to search for e.g.: two filenames
>
>find . -type f -name "*.sh" -o -name "*.html"
>
>so that I don't have to write "-o -name" at every time :D:P

Using regex:

find . -type f -regex '.*\.(sh|html)'
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Re: How do you read mail with gnus?

2009-07-19 Thread Carl Johnson

lee  writes:

> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 09:48:36AM +0200, Suno Ano wrote:
>> 
>>  Lee> Hi, How do you read mail, stored in local maildirs, with gnus? I
>> 
>> Gnus is by far the biggest Emacs package thus it takes a while to
>> configure things. Maybe, if you take a look at my .emacs which can be
>> found here http://sunoano.name/ws/public_xhtml/gnus.html it will help
>> you a bit.
>
> Nice page, lots of info --- but how do I get gnus to work?
>
>> I have no .gnus but instead I have all Gnus and other Emacs settings
>> within .emacs. You have to navigate to the Gnus section.
>
> Yeah, you got an endless ~./emacs with a lot things in it. But that
> doesn't say how to get gnus to work, either.
>
> It seems to be fine with the ~/.gnus I created and happily displays an
> empty buffer, and that's it.
>
>
> BTW, is gnus good for organizing mail? Since it's a news reader, it
> might not support that at all because you don't organize news. I'm
> trying to find a MUA that supports organizing mail --- mutt, for
> example, doesn't; sup "solves" the problem by abandoning the idea of
> organizing mail altogether. Maybe I could use it, but it doesn't run
> stable enough to try it out. I don't want a GUI MUA, and it must
> support maildir. I want to continue using emacs or xemacs as an editor
> for mails.

It takes a while to get working with it, but I think it is worth it.
There is a lot of information starting at the following page:

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryGnus

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Re: remount removeable drive in Lenny - how? [solved]

2009-07-19 Thread Paul E Condon

On 2009-07-19_18:57:40, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun,19.Jul.09, 08:11:21, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > I have no objection to the status of hal as a required part of a
> > standard desktop installation, but I do have a question as to how best
> > to deal with a peculiar situation.
> > 
> > I have several USB hard drives (ones with rotating machinery inside,
> > not solid state 'disks'). From time to time I need to perform format
> > maintenance on one of them. In order to do this, I look in /dev to see
> > what device name has been assigned to the drive, umount it, and do
> > whatever - e2fsck, tune2fs, etc. But when I'm finish doing
> > maintenance, how to I remount it without pulling the USB cable,
> > waiting a while, and reinserting the cable? Is there a console command
> > that I can type that avoids the extra wear on the fragile little
> > connectors and plugs? I'm looking for something that retriggers the
> > look-up of volume label and the creation of a mount-point in /media as
> > was there before I started mucking about.
> 
> This thread seems interesting

Correction:
  This thread *is* interesting
> 
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/re-detectmount-usb-hard-drive-623089/
> 
> (the first hit when I googled: hal redetect devices)
> 

The solution is in the parted package. 
Thanks, Andrei.

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Re: [NOT SOLVED, BUT PROGRESS] Failure to boot after failed resume from s2something

2009-07-19 Thread John

| On Thursday 16 July 2009 22:33:44 John wrote:
| > On (16/07/09 20:55), Andrew Reid wrote:
| 
| > |   I dimly recall setting the resume partition in the initramfs.conf
| > | process somewhere, but can't seem to find documentation about that
| > | now.
| >
| > I've looked at that documentation, without finding anything
| > helpful. /etc/initramfs-tools.conf.d/resume is set to the proper resume
| > partition. I can s2ram successfully from the one working kernel, but
| > of course can't experiment with the others because they won't boot.
| 
|   Hmm.  So what happens if you set that to "None", or unset it
| entirely?  I'm still stuck on the idea that bypassing the resume
| process is a useful strategy, but I'm probably out of my depth
| in the configuration-space sea...
| 

I am embarrassed to admit that after days of trying, unsuccessfully,
to back out of the bind, I managed to lose even the one working
kernel. And I desparately needed access to gnucash. So I broke down
and reinstalled.

The one lesson that I learned, very, very firmly, is to pay attention
to the BIG FAT WARNING -- which I had missed --  in
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/power.uswsusp.txt against trying to
resume from a different kernel.

Clearly I was out of my depth in that sea.

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laptop double-suspends (sleeps on resume first time) if I use fn-hotkey

2009-07-19 Thread Jon Dowland

Hi folks,

I have this really weird and mildly annoying issue I cannot pin down. When I
suspend my laptop (thinkpad x40 running sid) using the Fn+F4 hotkey (which
sends an ACPI sleep event), my laptop sleeps. However, on trying to wake it
up, once wakeup is complete (I see a flash of gnome-screensaver) the laptop
sleeps again. This happens every time and exactly twice.

If I use another method to sleep (call pm-suspend or use gnome-power-manager's
buttons or the gnome menu) it does not occur.

Can anyone suggest where to look? I was hoping I would see either one utility
reporting more than one ACPI event in a log somewhere, or more than one
utility reporting handling one ACPI event, but I can't see anything at all :( 

ii  acpi-support   0.123-1
ii  dbus   1.2.14-3
ii  gnome-power-ma 2.24.4-3
ii  hal0.5.12~git20090406.46dc48-2
ii  pm-utils   1.2.5-3
rc  hibernate  1.94-2
rc  uswsusp0.7-1.2


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Re: lvm on an external enclosure?


On 2009-03-20 16:04, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Friday 20 March 2009 09:02:24 Ron Johnson wrote:

1. What kind of problems or issues might I have when trying to boot
and lvm doesn't see a vg?  I'm guessing Linux will squawk and
continue booting.


Probably won't even squawk.  IIRC, scanning for VGs is done during the boot 
process as long as you have LVM installed, whether you are using it or not.



2. More importantly, what about when I power up the external
enclosure, after Linux is already running?  Will lvm automagically
recognize the new drives as part of their own vg?  Or will I have to
bounce lvm?


You *may* have to run 'vgscan && vgchange -ay', but that should be enough.


Well, that didn't work...

If I umount the fs, then power-down the enclosure, and power it back 
 up, these are the results:


# vgscan
  WARNING: Ignoring duplicate config node: filter (seeking filter)
  Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
  /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 2000380952576: 
Input/output error
  /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 2000381009920: 
Input/output error

  /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error
  /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 4096: Input/output error
  /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error
  Found volume group "backup_vg" using metadata type lvm2
  Found volume group "main_huge_vg" using metadata type lvm2

# vgchange -a y backup_vg
  WARNING: Ignoring duplicate config node: filter (seeking filter)
  /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error
  1 logical volume(s) in volume group "backup_vg" now active

# mount -v /mnt/backups
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on 
/dev/mapper/backup_vg-backup_lv,

   missing codepage or helper program, or other error
   In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
   dmesg | tail  or so


[28515.817160] EXT4-fs: unable to read superblock
[28515.817343] EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock
[28722.859373] EXT4-fs: unable to read superblock
[28722.859458] EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock

Reboot and it works fine.

Failing that, you might have to modify your lvm.conf, but that's only if lvm 
is, for some reason, not scanning those block devices for PV metadata.


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Re:OT laptop double-suspends (sleeps on resume first time) if I use fn-hotkey

2009-07-19 Thread Thierry Chatelet

We see more and more topics relating to suspend and the alike on this list. I 
have, myself, put question here which were more related to debian-laptop 
mailing list because the laptop mailing list does not have much traffic. My 2 
cents to the system would be to suggest that we (people with question specific 
to laptop) start to post on the laptop mailing list. I will ...
Thierry


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ia32-apt-get or libc6-i386 on amd64, debian sid?

2009-07-19 Thread MRH

I'm pretty confused with the latest changes in sid on amd64. Do ia32-* 
packages replace -i386 packages or they are alternatives? After 
'upgrading' to ia32-apt-get I lost wine (however I found there is 
ia32-wine, which unfortunately is not displayed in synaptic and I'm not 
sure if it replaces wine, then what will happen if there will be 64bit 
wine?), picasa, googleearth and some other packages.


Should I purge ia32-* and reinstall libc-i386 or wait?

Then what I understood reading ia32-apt-get doc and some previous post 
it is supposed to be updated / upgraded separately to the apt-get and I 
assume it won't be included / supported in synaptic?


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RE: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-19 Thread David Christensen

Mark Allums wrote:
> ... rethinking the brand loyalty.
> The point being that an Intel chip is, in my opinion, the current 
> overall winner.

I was an Intel guy for many years, after having been burned on no-name 
motherboards.  Intel's products and technical support were top-shelf 10+ years 
ago.  Then I got a CC820 board (recalled).  Then they started releasing buggy 
BIOS updates (D945GNT).  Then their technical support got arrogant.  Then Intel 
shut down their open technical support forums.  Etc..

So, I switched to AMD and Asus/NVIDIA about ~3 years ago.  They work with 
Windows; mostly.  But, Linux or BSD is another story.  The reality is that 
there's more to a computer system than the CPU -- you need a motherboard, 
chipset, memory, video, sound, Ethernet, serial, parallel, USB, Firewire, 
eSATA, etc..  Assuming that the hardware is done right, much of that stuff 
requires software -- e.g. kernel support and/or device drivers.  Outdated, 
reverse-engineered, and/or minimalist software might work for a plaything or 
headless ancillary server, but forget about production servers, graphical 
desktops, or even thin clients.

Companies that get in bed with Microsoft and pay for Windows Hardware Quality 
Labs (WHQL) testing ensure that their products work with Windows.  (NVIDIA 
didn't/doesn't; therefore the problems.)  But there is no single WHQL 
equivalent for free/ open-source software (FOSS).  So, it's up to the vendors 
and the projects, and they don't have the Microsoft Windows tax to supplement 
the costs.  Intel supports FOSS -- paying employees/ contractors to work on it, 
giving presentations/ classes, releasing technical information, releasing 
source code drivers, etc..  Can someone name another major PC hardware vendor 
who does the same?  (If so, please do; I'd like to know.)

The end result is that, in general, Intel stuff is better supported in the FOSS 
world.  There are always exceptions; if you're willing to do the homework, get 
out your wallet, and/or do the integration/ testing.  I prefer a fast, easy, 
and successful out-of-the-box experience, so my next motherboard and CPU are 
likely to be Intel.

Ron Johnson wrote:
> I looked into Intel, but I'm trying to reuse the CPU and RAM.

There's a saying -- "throwing good money after bad".  I mix, match, and run the 
old stuff until it drops or becomes useless, sell or give away the leftovers:

http://www.crc.org/

and save the money for my next machine.

HTH,

David

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Segmentation fault in dpkg and aptitude

2009-07-19 Thread Bill Wohler

After making the following changes to pull in sid's bluez 4.0 package in
a lenny system, I'm now getting segmentation faults when I run dpkg and
aptitude. Any thoughts on how to recover from this?

For example:

$ sudo aptitude update
Segmentation fault

Here are some messages from /var/log/syslog:

Jul 19 13:47:38 olgas kernel: [ 1791.378162] apt-listchanges[11214]: 
segfault at 800 ip 00446702 sp 7fff1eb16f90 error 4 in 
python2.5[40+125000]
Jul 19 13:47:38 olgas kernel: [ 1791.523514] apt-listchanges[11216]: 
segfault at 1731670 ip 004d5f08 sp 7fff8060fe80 error 4 in 
python2.5[40+125000]
Jul 19 13:47:41 olgas kernel: [ 1794.964660] dpkg[11230]: segfault at 
2008 ip 0040b0c4 sp 7fff02c49040 error 4 in 
dpkg[40+61000]
Jul 19 13:48:22 olgas kernel: [ 1835.600343] aptitude[11320]: segfault at 
118 ip 00538150 sp 7fff40c13fa0 error 4 in 
aptitude[40+22a000]
Jul 19 13:53:06 olgas kernel: [ 2119.972216] aptitude[11630]: segfault at 
7f4e555e428c ip 7f38c73a3517 sp 7fffcf840c10 error 4 in 
libapt-pkg-libc6.7-6.so.4.6.0[7f38c7365000+bd000]

Here's a trimmed excerpt from /var/log/aptitude:

Aptitude 0.4.11.11: log report
Sun, Jul 19 2009 12:33:18 -0700

[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libbluetooth3
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libnl1
[INSTALL] bluez
[UPGRADE] bluez-utils 3.36-3 -> 4.42-2

Aptitude 0.4.11.11: log report
Sun, Jul 19 2009 12:51:29 -0700

[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] consolekit
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libck-connector0
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpam-ck-connector
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-dbus2
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-gnome0
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-grant2
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit2
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-atom1
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-aux0
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-event1
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] obex-data-server
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] policykit
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] policykit-gnome
[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] python-pyrex
[REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] bluez-gnome
[REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-xlib0
[REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-xlib0-dev
[INSTALL] blueman
[UPGRADE] libstartup-notification0 0.9-1 -> 0.10-1
[UPGRADE] libx11-6 2:1.1.5-2 -> 2:1.2.1-1
[UPGRADE] libx11-dev 2:1.1.5-2 -> 2:1.2.1-1
[UPGRADE] libxcb1 1.1-1.2 -> 1.3-2
[UPGRADE] libxcb1-dev 1.1-1.2 -> 1.3-2

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Reg : How do I start the sshd process

2009-07-19 Thread Ashu Dash

Hi,
Please help me with regards to the right command to start sshd process.
This is preventing me from installing some softwares.
Regards,
Ashu

Re: Reg : How do I start the sshd process

2009-07-19 Thread Miles Fidelman


Ashu Dash wrote:

Hi,
Please help me with regards to the right command to start sshd process.
This is preventing me from installing some softwares.
Regards,
Ashu
1st thing: if you don't already have sshd installed, try:  apt-get 
install openssh-server (that probably should start it as well)


If it's just not running, try: /etc/init.d/ssh start

Then make sure that your init files are set up properly:
- check /etc/inittab to see what your default runlevel is (probably 2)
- check /etc/rc2.d (or whatever your default is) for a file something 
like S16ssh (to start ssh at boot time)
- if it doesn't exist, then you need to install an init file (sorry, I 
forget the magic incantation to create init files)




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Re: [NOT SOLVED, BUT PROGRESS] Failure to boot after failed resume from s2something

2009-07-19 Thread Andrew Reid

On Thursday 16 July 2009 22:33:44 John wrote:
> On (16/07/09 20:55), Andrew Reid wrote:

> |   I dimly recall setting the resume partition in the initramfs.conf
> | process somewhere, but can't seem to find documentation about that
> | now.
>
> I've looked at that documentation, without finding anything
> helpful. /etc/initramfs-tools.conf.d/resume is set to the proper resume
> partition. I can s2ram successfully from the one working kernel, but
> of course can't experiment with the others because they won't boot.

  Here's another thought -- what happens if you boot to 
single-user mode (or to a rescue disk) and re-run "mkswap" on
that swap partition?   This ought to blitz the troublesome 
resume image that's on there, and possibly allow the system to
boot cleanly.

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Re: how to increase sound volume of a mp3 file

2009-07-19 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi

Long Wind wrote:

> Thanks to all those that reply!
> I install mp3gain on etch
> It increase sound volume though I am not fully satisfied.
> 

Long time ago, I did something like this. I first converted the mp3 to wav,
increased the amplitude, then converted the .wav file back to .mp3. I
forgot the tools, commands to achieve this. Sorry! Google might be of some
help.

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Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

On 2009-07-19 16:26, David Christensen wrote:

Mark Allums wrote:

... rethinking the brand loyalty.
The point being that an Intel chip is, in my opinion, the current 
overall winner.

[snip]

Companies that get in bed with Microsoft and pay for Windows

> Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL) testing ensure that their products

work with Windows. (NVIDIA didn't/doesn't; therefore the problems.)

> But there is no single WHQL equivalent for free/ open-source software

(FOSS). So, it's up to the vendors and the projects, and they don't
have the Microsoft Windows tax to supplement the costs. Intel
supports FOSS -- paying employees/ contractors to work on it, giving
presentations/ classes, releasing technical information, releasing
source code drivers, etc.. Can someone name another major PC
hardware vendor who does the same? (If so, please do; I'd like to know.)

The end result is that, in general, Intel stuff is better

> upported in the FOSS world. There are always exceptions; if you're

willing to do the homework, get out your wallet, and/or do the
integration/ testing. I prefer a fast, easy, and successful
out-of-the-box experience, so my next motherboard and CPU are likely
to be Intel.

I've used AMD kit and compatible chipsets since the K6-2 days, and 
nvidia cards (with both nv and nvidia drivers) almost as long.  This 
ASRock mobo is the only one that I've had trouble with.

It's not even the CPU that I'm having trouble with, but the BIOS and 
chipset.  Finally I got it to boot: went to watch TV for a few 
hours, and when I came back, the board recognized all my drives. 
Even still, though, when I reboot, it just sits at the BIOS splash 
screen.  Must wait an hour or so before it gets beyond that point. 
I suspect overheating, but that doesn't make much sense, because the 
system is otherwise very stable.

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Re: resize2fs: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt!


On 2009-07-08 20:23, Miles Bader wrote:
[snip]


Hmm, my / is 290MB, though /tmp, /var, /boot, and /usr are all separate
partitions.


*Why*?  IOW, what benefit do you derive in 2009 (as opposed to 1989, 
when disks weren't always large enough to hold it all) from 
splitting these out?


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Re: How about NUMA?


On 2009-07-08 22:49, lee wrote:

Hi,

under what circumstances are you supposed to turn on NUMA support in
the kernel settings? I've googled about that and learned what NUMA is
about while trying to answer the question wheather I should enable it
in my kernel or not. But I couldn't find the answer I was looking for.

Do Intel DualCores (E8400) support NUMA?


No.  All cores access the same RAM over the same paths.


  Do you need special hardware,
like a special mainboard supporting NUMA, to benefit from this
feature?


Yes.  Really expensive server-oriented multi-*socket* boards with 
DIMM slots for each CPU socket.



 Do these CPUs support NUMA? It seems to me that leaving it
disabled is better in my case, and the kernel help also says that it's
probably better not to enable it if you don't have more than two
CPUs/cores.

Now if I had a quad core CPU instead, would I better enable NUMA? Or
if I had an AMD instead of Intel, would I turn it on? Or should I
leave it turned on?


You still only have 1 CPU chip, so NUMA is irrelevant.

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Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo


David Christensen wrote:

Mark Allums wrote:

... rethinking the brand loyalty.
The point being that an Intel chip is, in my opinion, the current 
overall winner.


I was an Intel guy for many years, after having been burned on no-name 
motherboards.  Intel's products and technical support were top-shelf 10+ years 
ago.  Then I got a CC820 board (recalled).  Then they started releasing buggy 
BIOS updates (D945GNT).  Then their technical support got arrogant.  Then Intel 
shut down their open technical support forums.  Etc..



I am not advocating Intel motherboards, just Intel CPU + Northbridge.

I recommend a non-Intel board, the ASUS P6T Deluxe V2.

ASUS is not a "no-name" board.  Dell, HP, and others use ASUS OEM bords 
in their computers.


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Re: lvm on an external enclosure?

2009-07-19 Thread Celejar

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:23:48 -0500
Ron Johnson  wrote:

...

> Well, that didn't work...
> 
> If I umount the fs, then power-down the enclosure, and power it back 
>   up, these are the results:
> 
> # vgscan
>WARNING: Ignoring duplicate config node: filter (seeking filter)
>Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
>/dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 2000380952576: 
> Input/output error
>/dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 2000381009920: 
> Input/output error
>/dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error
>/dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 4096: Input/output error
>/dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error
>Found volume group "backup_vg" using metadata type lvm2
>Found volume group "main_huge_vg" using metadata type lvm2
> 
> # vgchange -a y backup_vg
>WARNING: Ignoring duplicate config node: filter (seeking filter)
>/dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error
>1 logical volume(s) in volume group "backup_vg" now active
> 
> # mount -v /mnt/backups
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on 
> /dev/mapper/backup_vg-backup_lv,
> missing codepage or helper program, or other error
> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
> dmesg | tail  or so
> 
> 
> [28515.817160] EXT4-fs: unable to read superblock
> [28515.817343] EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock
> [28722.859373] EXT4-fs: unable to read superblock
> [28722.859458] EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock
> 
> Reboot and it works fine.

I use lvm on an external USB disk, and I also get those messages ('read
failed after 0 of 4096') when the disk goes offline and then returns.
What seems to work for me is '/etc/init.d/lvm2 stop' followed by
'/etc/init.d/lvm2 start'.

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Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo


Ron Johnson wrote:

It's not even the CPU that I'm having trouble with, but the BIOS and 
chipset.  


My recommendation of Intel Core i7/X58+ICH10 is only if you end up 
having to replace the CPU, memory, etc., as well as the motherboard.


Otherwise, stick with AMD.

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Re: Expanding subnets

2009-07-19 Thread Andy Smith

Hi kj,

On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:35:15AM +0100, kj wrote:
> I need to feed subnets into a database in the format 192.168.0.% or 
> 192.168.%.%

Whenever I find myself trying to do something like this, I stop and
consider if my database design is optimal.

You can store an IPv4 address as a 32-bit unsigned integer, and you
can store an IPv4 network as one of those together with a prefix
between 0 and 32.  You can then do operations on these.

However...

> which means, for example, 192.168.0.0/23 should break down into:
> 
> 192.168.0.%
> 192.168.1.%
> 
> Does anyone know of a way to convert this?

Perl's Net::Netmask module helps:

$ perl -MNet::Netmask -e '$block = new Net::Netmask("192.168.0.0/23"); print 
join("\n", $block->enumerate(24)), "\n";'
192.168.0.0
192.168.1.0

After adding some validation, you could replace the trailing '.0'
with '.%'.

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Re: lvm on an external enclosure?


On 2009-07-19 21:25, Celejar wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:23:48 -0500
Ron Johnson  wrote:

...


Well, that didn't work...

If I umount the fs, then power-down the enclosure, and power it back 
  up, these are the results:


# vgscan
   WARNING: Ignoring duplicate config node: filter (seeking filter)
   Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
   /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 2000380952576: 
Input/output error
   /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 2000381009920: 
Input/output error

   /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error
   /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 4096: Input/output error
   /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error
   Found volume group "backup_vg" using metadata type lvm2
   Found volume group "main_huge_vg" using metadata type lvm2

# vgchange -a y backup_vg
   WARNING: Ignoring duplicate config node: filter (seeking filter)
   /dev/dm-1: read failed after 0 of 4096 at 0: Input/output error
   1 logical volume(s) in volume group "backup_vg" now active

# mount -v /mnt/backups
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on 
/dev/mapper/backup_vg-backup_lv,

missing codepage or helper program, or other error
In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
dmesg | tail  or so


[28515.817160] EXT4-fs: unable to read superblock
[28515.817343] EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock
[28722.859373] EXT4-fs: unable to read superblock
[28722.859458] EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock

Reboot and it works fine.


I use lvm on an external USB disk, and I also get those messages ('read
failed after 0 of 4096') when the disk goes offline and then returns.
What seems to work for me is '/etc/init.d/lvm2 stop' followed by
'/etc/init.d/lvm2 start'.


I thought of that, but what about internal LVs?  Wouldn't you have 
to first umount them?


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Re: lvm on an external enclosure?

2009-07-19 Thread Celejar

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:18:02 -0500
Ron Johnson  wrote:

...

> > I use lvm on an external USB disk, and I also get those messages ('read
> > failed after 0 of 4096') when the disk goes offline and then returns.
> > What seems to work for me is '/etc/init.d/lvm2 stop' followed by
> > '/etc/init.d/lvm2 start'.
> 
> I thought of that, but what about internal LVs?  Wouldn't you have 
> to first umount them?

I currently only use lvm on my external disk, so I don't have to worry
about that.  But I assumed that even if one did, it would still be
better, if not quite as simple, to do that, than to reboot.

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Re: resize2fs: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt!


Ron Johnson wrote:

On 2009-07-08 20:23, Miles Bader wrote:
[snip]


Hmm, my / is 290MB, though /tmp, /var, /boot, and /usr are all separate
partitions.


*Why*?  IOW, what benefit do you derive in 2009 (as opposed to 1989, 
when disks weren't always large enough to hold it all) from splitting 
these out?




Protection by isolaton, partly.

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OT: .."not MS business strategy" ;o), was: [Flightgear-devel] [Simgear-cvslogs]CVS:source/simgear/propsprops.cxx, 1.44, 1.45 props.hxx, 1.32, 1.33

2009-07-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:22:49 -0400, Nicolas wrote in message
<808354800907190922n4853debbv75b7ebaaa3100...@mail.gmail.com>:

> The issue has to do with standards compliance and C++ idioms,
> not MS business strategy

..Microsoft has _all_ the resources it might ever need to get
their own compilers to do these things right, and it appears
they have chosen _not_ to.

..instead, I see Microsoft prefers to refer to their habitual
non-compliance to standards, as "embrace and extend", which is
what they, Microsoft, calls "a Microsoft business strategy." ;o)

..whether or not that decision, by Microsoft, "to embrace and
extend" C++ idioms, is some random accident, or, as I (and a
few more) guess, "by their book" and in accordance with their
business strategy, I don't know, I can only point towards
Microsoft's own track record, which, as we all _can_ see
(if we want to see), speaks _loudly_ on these matters. ;o)

..http://groklaw.net/ has all you might ever need, to form
an educated and honorable opinion on that track record. ;o)
And, is OT here at FG-dev, so let's FU at Groklaw. ;o)
http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20090717043855128&title=..my+guess+is,+Microsoft+is+going+after+the+Debian+etc+distro+mirror+donors.&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=769578#c769950

> Funny how any sense of perspective is thrown out the window with the
> opportunity to rag on MS...

..I gave a simple pointer to help answer a seemingly simple
question that both is and is not quite that simple, to try
help FlightGear developers from wasting time and effort
"on Microsoft compiler etc issues", that I have learned,
Microsoft does not want fixed.

..und Sie? ;o)

> Sheesh !!

..you could say that on Debian.org's "wisdom" ;o) in making
Mono and C# etc part of their default desktop install, and
in putting them on their mirrors in the main repository,
rather than in their non-free or contrib repositories, or
even in a new "donated-mirror-killer-litigation-bait" category.
Etc. And, is OT here at FG-dev. ;o)

..my own _guess_ is, Microsoft is targeting Debian thru its
mirror _donors_, all it takes, are non-frivolous lawsuits on
each donor, and for that you need something better than what
tSCOG has made IBM, Novell, AutoZone, Chrysler and Red Hat
spend the last 6 years on, http://groklaw.net/ tracks these
cases.

..patent claims or copyright etc infringement claims, _will_
do the job, and let's face it, Microsoft does own .NET.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Simgear-cvslogs]CVS:source/simgear/propsprops.cxx, 1.44, 1.45 props.hxx, 1.32, 1.33

2009-07-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:43:41 -0400, Nicolas wrote in message 
<808354800907190943ic2f7c59g389bedc9eb3f1...@mail.gmail.com>:

> Sorry about calling you clueless, btw, I mistakenly thought your post
> was from the same person who linked to the propaganda bullshit site

..you refer to http://grokdoc.net/ and by extension
http://groklaw.net/ .  _That_ discussion is OT here 
at FG-dev, and a bit less OT on Debian User, so I'll 
FU there, and at Groklaw: ;o)
http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20090717043855128&title=..my+guess+is,+Microsoft+is+going+after+the+Debian+etc+distro+mirror+donors.&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=769578#c769950

> on MS : I'm no fan of MS, but I'm tired of falsehoods 

..so, let's find 'n fix them. ;o)

> being used to critique them. 
> Especially as all those examples were null or so badly distorted to
> be absolutely pointless.

..me, I'm prepared to believe all those stories sung by the 
Debian Mono, C# etc sirens about tech merit ;o), I just see 
a litigation threat, on Debian Mirror Donors.  Which again, 
is is OT here at FG-dev and on-topic on Debian User, so I 
FU there. ;o)
http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20090717043855128&title=..my+guess+is,+Microsoft+is+going+after+the+Debian+etc+distro+mirror+donors.&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=769578#c769950

> Not a flame war :)

..bullshit. ;o) 

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Re: lvm on an external enclosure?


On 2009-07-19 22:27, Celejar wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:18:02 -0500
Ron Johnson  wrote:

...


I use lvm on an external USB disk, and I also get those messages ('read
failed after 0 of 4096') when the disk goes offline and then returns.
What seems to work for me is '/etc/init.d/lvm2 stop' followed by
'/etc/init.d/lvm2 start'.
I thought of that, but what about internal LVs?  Wouldn't you have 
to first umount them?


I currently only use lvm on my external disk, so I don't have to worry
about that.  But I assumed that even if one did, it would still be
better, if not quite as simple, to do that, than to reboot.


True, true.  Especially since my internal LV doesn't have anything 
vital like /usr on it.


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Re: resize2fs: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt!

2009-07-19 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Mark Allums wrote:
> Protection by isolaton, partly.

I do the same thing.

Maybe it's just superstition, but it's fairly rare to lose a whole
hard drive, but fairly common to corrupt a filesystem.

Such corruption usually happens when you (intentionally) write to a
filesystem.  It could happen otherwise, because of some wildly buggy
kernel code writing outside the proper partition, but I would expect
that to be rare.

So if you have separate filesystems, /tmp, /var and /home are likely
to get corrupted, but /boot and / aren't so likely.  In the event of
this kind of corruption, you should still be able to boot.

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How do I setup wireless network

2009-07-19 Thread Ogya Chief


Hi All,
I have installed Debian 5.02 on my laptop with Broadcom wireless network card 
but I do not know how to get this card to work. The installation did not detect 
the card. Any leads will be appreciated.
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Re: Segmentation fault in dpkg and aptitude

2009-07-19 Thread Bill Wohler

Bill Wohler  writes:

> After making the following changes to pull in sid's bluez 4.0 package in
> a lenny system, I'm now getting segmentation faults when I run dpkg and
> aptitude. Any thoughts on how to recover from this?

I found I was able to run "apt-get -f install" twice and be able to
use aptitude to perform package maintenance again.

However, now I'm finding that Emacs and Firefox (Iceweasel) die with
segmentation faults at random times. Wonder if I'll get this email
away...

Has anyone seen these problems as a result of updating these packages?

> Here's a trimmed excerpt from /var/log/aptitude:
>
> Aptitude 0.4.11.11: log report
> Sun, Jul 19 2009 12:33:18 -0700
>
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libbluetooth3
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libnl1
> [INSTALL] bluez
> [UPGRADE] bluez-utils 3.36-3 -> 4.42-2
>
> Aptitude 0.4.11.11: log report
> Sun, Jul 19 2009 12:51:29 -0700
>
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] consolekit
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libck-connector0
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpam-ck-connector
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-dbus2
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-gnome0
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit-grant2
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libpolkit2
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-atom1
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-aux0
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-event1
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] obex-data-server
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] policykit
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] policykit-gnome
> [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] python-pyrex
> [REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] bluez-gnome
> [REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-xlib0
> [REMOVE, DEPENDENCIES] libxcb-xlib0-dev
> [INSTALL] blueman
> [UPGRADE] libstartup-notification0 0.9-1 -> 0.10-1
> [UPGRADE] libx11-6 2:1.1.5-2 -> 2:1.2.1-1
> [UPGRADE] libx11-dev 2:1.1.5-2 -> 2:1.2.1-1
> [UPGRADE] libxcb1 1.1-1.2 -> 1.3-2
> [UPGRADE] libxcb1-dev 1.1-1.2 -> 1.3-2

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Re: lvm on an external enclosure? [SOLVED]


On 2009-07-19 23:04, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 2009-07-19 22:27, Celejar wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:18:02 -0500
Ron Johnson  wrote:

...


I use lvm on an external USB disk, and I also get those messages ('read
failed after 0 of 4096') when the disk goes offline and then returns.
What seems to work for me is '/etc/init.d/lvm2 stop' followed by
'/etc/init.d/lvm2 start'.
I thought of that, but what about internal LVs?  Wouldn't you have to 
first umount them?


I currently only use lvm on my external disk, so I don't have to worry
about that.  But I assumed that even if one did, it would still be
better, if not quite as simple, to do that, than to reboot.


True, true.  Especially since my internal LV doesn't have anything vital 
like /usr on it.



https://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2009-July/msg00035.html

# umount -v /some/mount/point
# vgchange -an some_dynamic_vg
pull USB cable
wait a few minutes
insert USB cable
# vgchange -ay some_dynamic_vg
# mount -v /some/mount/point


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Re: How about NUMA?

2009-07-19 Thread lee

At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:11:03 -0500,
Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
> On 2009-07-08 22:49, lee wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > under what circumstances are you supposed to turn on NUMA support in
> > the kernel settings?
> 
> Really expensive server-oriented multi-*socket* boards with 
> DIMM slots for each CPU socket.
> 
> You still only have 1 CPU chip, so NUMA is irrelevant.

Thanks! Interestingly, you can turn it on nonetheless, and it works
...


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Fw: Mounting Iphone with Ifuse as User

2009-07-19 Thread Alejandro Salas





- Forwarded Message 
From: Alejandro Salas 
To: Florian Kulzer 
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 3:34:51 PM
Subject: Re: Mounting Iphone with Ifuse as User








From: Florian Kulzer 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 2:34:43 PM
Subject: Re: Mounting Iphone with Ifuse as User

On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 14:27:38 -0700, Alejandro Salas wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 11:32:10 -0700, Alejandro Salas wrote:
> > > > The fuse group should have been created by the post-installation script
> > > > of the fuse-utils package. 
> > > >
> > > >> I created it and added my user to 
> > > >> the group.
> > > >> I still get the same error message. :-(. Any ideas?

[...]

> lshal -u $(hal-find-by-property --key "storage.model" --string "iPhone")
> udi = 
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_5ac_1290_28b0d03934dc7a3615752383097c47f1fb34a1e4'
>   block.device = '/dev/bus/usb/007/003'  (string)
>   block.storage_device = 
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_2__00_1d_7'  (string)
>   info.addons = {'hald-addon-storage'} (string list)
>   info.capabilities = {'block', 'storage'} (string list)

[...]

>   storage.automount_enabled_hint = true  (bool)
>   storage.hotpluggable = false  (bool)
>   storage.model = 'iPhone'  (string)
>   storage.removable = true  (bool)
>   storage.vendor = 'Apple Computer, Inc.'  (string)
>   usb_device.bus_number = 7  (0x7)  (int)
>   usb_device.can_wake_up = false  (bool)
>   usb_device.configuration = 'PTP + Apple Mobile Device'  (string)
>   usb_device.configuration_value = 3  (0x3)  (int)

[...]

> lshal -u $(hal-find-by-property --key "volume.label" --string "iPhone")
> udi = 
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_5ac_1290_28b0d03934dc7a3615752383097c47f1fb34a1e4_if1'
>   block.device = '/dev/bus/usb/007/003'  (string)
>   block.storage_device = 
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_5ac_1290_28b0d03934dc7a3615752383097c47f1fb34a1e4'
>   (string)
>   info.capabilities = {'block', 'volume', 'afc'} (string list)

[...]

>   usb.configuration = 'PTP + Apple Mobile Device'  (string)
>   usb.configuration_value = 3  (0x3)  (int)

[...]

>   volume.fstype = 'fuse.ifuse'  (string)
>   volume.fsusage = 'filesystem'  (string)
>   volume.ignore = false  (bool)
>   volume.label = 'iPhone'  (string)
>   volume.mount.valid_options = {'ro', 'sync', 'dirsync', 'noatime', 
> 'nodiratime', 'noexec', 'quiet', 'remount', 'exec'} (string list)
>   volume.unmount.valid_options = {'lazy'} (string list)
>   volume.uuid = ''  (string)
>
> I don't see anything wrong here; it looks like both udev and HAL have
> done exactly what they were supposed to be doing.
> 
> What output do you get from:
> 
> ls -l /dev/fuse
> 
> ls -l /dev/bus/usb/*

Here they are:

ls -l /dev/fuse 
crw-rw 1 root fuse 10, 229 2009-07-08 10:41 /dev/fuse


ls -l /dev/bus/usb/*
/dev/bus/usb/001:
total 0
crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 0 2009-07-08 06:06 001

/dev/bus/usb/002:
total 0
crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 128 2009-07-08 06:06 001

/dev/bus/usb/003:
total 0
crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 256 2009-07-08 06:06 001
crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 257 2009-07-08 06:06 002

/dev/bus/usb/004:
total 0
crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 384 2009-07-08 06:06 001

/dev/bus/usb/005:
total 0
crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 512 2009-07-08 06:06 001
crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 513 2009-07-08 06:06 002

/dev/bus/usb/006:
total 0
crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 640 2009-07-08 06:06 001

/dev/bus/usb/007:
total 0
crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 768 2009-07-08 06:06 001
crw-rw-r-- 1 root root 189, 770 2009-07-08 15:59 003

The last entry ('003') appeared only after plugging the iphone to a usb port. 
Everything else remained the same.
Thanks again

Re: [Semi-OT] Need advice on AMD mobo

2009-07-19 Thread lee

At Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:22:08 -0500,
Mark Allums wrote:

> ASUS is not a "no-name" board.  Dell, HP, and others use ASUS OEM bords 
> in their computers.

That doesn't mean that they are still good like they used to be. I've
seen 10--15 out of 25 Asus boards, all the same model, giving Windoze
XP trouble to access the disk. It could take 15 minutes and several
tries when users turned on their computers in the morning before they
could use them. --- I've had an Asus board myself and the fan on it
started rattling after a short time. Otherwise, it wasn't too bad,
except that there was no way to update the BIOS.

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