Re: installer preseeding - partitioning

[Richard Hector]

On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 18:27 +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've got a preseed file, with a partitioning recipe that I think is
> valid, but I'm having trouble getting past the partitioner with no
> interaction. Unfortunately the documentation is a bit lacking on how the
> various partman values interact.
> 
> This is the partitioning section of my preseed.cfg so far:
> 
> ## Partitioning ##
> d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda
> # d-i partman-auto/method string my-recipe
> # d-i partman-auto/choose_recipe select my-recipe
> d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string my-recipe :: \
> 10240 10240 -1 ext4 \
> $primary{ } \
> $bootable{ } \
> method{ format } \
> format{ } \
> use_filesystem{ } \
> filesystem{ ext4 } \
> mountpoint{ / } . \
>  \
> 2048 2048 2560 linux-swap \
> $primary{ } \
> method{ swap } \
> format{ } .
> 
> d-i partman/confirm_write_new_label boolean true
> d-i partman/choose_partition \
>   select Finish partitioning and write changes to disk
> d-i partman/confirm boolean true
> 
> 
> I'm testing this with lenny/amd64 at the moment, as squeeze seems unable
> to detect the qemu hard drive in my kvm environment (and lucid gets
> frowned upon here - but has more or less the same issues :-)

Actually, I think I was wrong on 2 counts:

* lucid and lenny behave differently (lucid offers to resize my
partitions; also lucid detects /dev/sda while lenny detects /dev/hda).
* both seem to ignore my recipe completely.

Any tips?

Thanks,

Richard



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installer preseeding - partitioning

[Richard Hector]

Hi all,

I've got a preseed file, with a partitioning recipe that I think is
valid, but I'm having trouble getting past the partitioner with no
interaction. Unfortunately the documentation is a bit lacking on how the
various partman values interact.

This is the partitioning section of my preseed.cfg so far:

## Partitioning ##
d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda
# d-i partman-auto/method string my-recipe
# d-i partman-auto/choose_recipe select my-recipe
d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string my-recipe :: \
10240 10240 -1 ext4 \
$primary{ } \
$bootable{ } \
method{ format } \
format{ } \
use_filesystem{ } \
filesystem{ ext4 } \
mountpoint{ / } . \
 \
2048 2048 2560 linux-swap \
$primary{ } \
method{ swap } \
format{ } .

d-i partman/confirm_write_new_label boolean true
d-i partman/choose_partition \
  select Finish partitioning and write changes to disk
d-i partman/confirm boolean true


I'm testing this with lenny/amd64 at the moment, as squeeze seems unable
to detect the qemu hard drive in my kvm environment (and lucid gets
frowned upon here - but has more or less the same issues :-)

Any hints on what I need to set to make this go through without asking
me any questions?

Thanks,

Richard



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Re: file systems

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/19/2011 05:42 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
[snip]


XFS beats EXT4 hands down in nearly every category,


Including not being able to xfs_check very large filesystems on 32 bit 
machines.  (Which if why I'm going back to ext4.)


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Re: list all the devices connected to the router

[shawn wilson]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
 wrote:
> shawn wilson wrote:
>
>> sense no one has mentioned it yet - nmap -sP 192.168.1.*
>
> Thanks for the nmap command. This lists some of the machines but not all.
> For example, when I look at 192.168.1.1 in a web browser I see that the
> router is connected to 192.168.1.36 . However, it does not show up in the
> nmap output.
>
> $nmap -sP 192.168.1.*
>
> Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2011-04-24 19:44 EDT
> Host dslrouter.westell.com (192.168.1.1) is up (0.0011s latency).
> Host D76PB4B1.westell.com (192.168.1.21) is up (0.00049s latency).
> Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (2 hosts up) scanned in 2.45 seconds
>
> The 192.168.1.36 is my vonage phone connection. I am unable to ping it
> either. However, my phone works so the connection must be alive.
>

if you can't ping it, i doubt anything other than snmp or cacti (or
whatever network monitoring tool might suite your preference) will
help you much. chances are that the phone does what my tv (and mac
mini on default configuration) does - goes to sleep until it needs to
do something.

> Any other ideas?

yeah, rtfm:
  -sS/sT/sA/sW/sM: TCP SYN/Connect()/ACK/Window/Maimon scans
  -sU: UDP Scan
  -sN/sF/sX: TCP Null, FIN, and Xmas scans

other than that, nmap.org and insecure.org have tons of docs. you can
probably even find someone asking about scanning your phone. there is
also a talk that the lead dev did about 'scanning the internet' you
can probably google for (or is probably linked to on their page) that
was given at defcon a few years ago.

you can also fire up wireshark and see what your phone is doing and
figure out how to handle it from that point. if it wakes up when you
get a call, you can probably write some simple lua plugin to find it
(i don't think it's that hard though). if you get stuck, check #nmap
on the freenode irc. it's not very active but pretty helpful folks
stay in there.


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weather program not working anymore

[Kamaraju S Kusumanchi]

Using Debian Squeeze. In my .weatherrc, I have the following stanza

[home]
City = Newark
Forecast = True
ID = KEWR
St = NJ

However, if I do

$weather home   
   
weather: error: failed to retrieve
   http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/forecasts/city/nj/newark.txt
   HTTPError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found


It used to work before. But the website seems to be broken now. Does anyone 
know of a fix?

$dpkg -l weather-util   
   
ii  weather-util1.5-1   command-line tool to 
obtain weather conditions and forecasts

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Re: Monitors requiring interlaced video modes with older Nvidia video cards are out of options in wheezy

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On 2011-04-24 15:19:05 Stephen Powell wrote:
>   Don't file bugs upstream
>
>   If you file a bug in Debian, don't send a copy to the upstream software
>   maintainers yourself, as it is possible that the bug exists only in
>Debian. If necessary, the maintainer of the package will forward the bug
>upstream.
>
>But if the bug is clearly in upstream code, and the maintainer is ignoring
>the bug report, what else can one do?

Take action and help the maintainer out.  Most maintainers love it when 
someone else does work for them.  If you know it's an upstream bug, file it 
there and mark the bug as forwarded.
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Re: firefox & gimp buttons missing - gtk issue?

[i'll teach you to turn away.]

Camaleón  wrote:
Cn> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 08:54:12 +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
>>   but the point is still being missed. will it fix gimp? i can
>> live without firefox buttons, but the gimp problem is impactful. i've
>> found nothing in bug reports regarding this.
Cn> This is not a bulletproof science :-), you try and see how it goes.
Cn> (IIRC, both GIMP and Iceweasel use tango icons by default)

well, i hoped i could thank you for pushing me into it, but 
while my firefox icons are back (yay), gimp's still without its proper 
status bar.

i updated the title bar to accommodate, but i still wish for a 
real solution. thanks for trying, guys.

lish
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Re: Libtrash: Have any of you successfully activated it?

[Jason Hsu]

I've been able to get libtrash to PARTIALLY work.  It only works on non-empty 
files and ONLY files deleted through the GUI.  Libtrash does NOT work for files 
deleted through the "rm" command.

What do I need to do to get for libtrash to work for files deleted through the 
"rm" command?  If this isn't possible, is there another package I can install 
to fill the gap?


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Re: Issue writing image to disk via dd

[Huang, Tao]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Mark Kane  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011, at 09:45:44 +0800, Huang, Tao wrote:
>> what do u mean by "live running file system"?
>> a mounted file system?
>
> Yes. Debian is installed and running on sda and I am trying to
> overwrite the current installation with this disk image.

to my understanding, writing with dd on a mounted device leads to
unpredictable results, and never guarantees to work.

and i think your problem was not caused by differences in dd builds,
it was different behaviours of the systems on a modified mounted root
partition.


Cheers,

Tao


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Re: Issue writing image to disk via dd

[Mark Kane]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011, at 09:45:44 +0800, Huang, Tao wrote:
> what do u mean by "live running file system"?
> a mounted file system?

Yes. Debian is installed and running on sda and I am trying to
overwrite the current installation with this disk image.

Thanks,

-Mark


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Re: Issue writing image to disk via dd

[Huang, Tao]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Mark Kane  wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011, at 22:54:48 +0800, Huang, Tao wrote:
[...]
> When using either of the above commands, there is no difference
> outputted from diff between the data written by Lenny (where it works)
> and Squeeze (where it doesn't).
>
> That got me to think that maybe it's not at the very beginning/end, so
> I tried this:
>
> # dd if=/dev/sda bs=1024 count=30720 | hexdump -x > outfile
>
> In that case, there is a difference between Lenny and Squeeze and I
> have attached the diff.
>
> As another test, I tried writing the image to sdb which is a blank
> disk. If I do this:
>
> # dd if=/dev/sdb bs=1024 count=30720 | hexdump -x > outfile
>
> ...there is no difference between the data written from Lenny and
> Squeeze as there was above when it was written to sda (which contains
> the live running file system).

what do u mean by "live running file system"?
a mounted file system?

> So I guess that narrows it down a bit. The problem in Etch and
> Squeeze only happens when overwriting the device with the live
> file system. When writing to a separate disk everything works as
> expected.


Tao


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single cable dual nic?

[Jim Green]

Hi:
I have a asus p8p67 deluxe board and it has two nics and two ports, I
am thinking of bonding them to one nic, but I only have one cable so
will only use one port. Will this do much help to the
throughput/speed? If I have two cables connecting to both ports I
think it will definitely help, but here I only be using one cable/one
port and two nics bonded to one virtual nic.

Thanks!
Jim.


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Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

[Hal Vaughan]

Liam, I've read your posts on this thread, but I'm replying in kind of a 
reverse order -- or skipping the earlier ones if my comments on those make it 
in here.

On Apr 24, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:

> On 2011-04-24, Camaleón  wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:08:47 +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote:
>> 
> Java technology offers a standard way of doing that: Java Web Start.
> It is possible to deploy a third-party application using a JNLP
> file[1].
 
 Yes but no, that's a completely different approach (AFAIK, the
 application has to be prepared/packaged to use it and most of the java
 apps out there are not intended for that purpose, meaning they are not
 going to be launched/run "online").
>>> 
>>> It is simply a means of lauching an application over the network.
>> 
>> Most specifically over http protocol, I'd say.
> 
> It is most commonly used over HTTP, but other protocols are available
> (see below).
> 
>> 
>>> Whether the application was intended to be launched in that way is
>>> irrelevant. 
>> 
>> Nope, it isn't :-)
> 
> Oh yes it is. Try it.

A couple points here.  I checked the source code for the Dynamic Tree Demo that 
is used as a JNLP demo.  Now I will admit I haven't been using Java for a 
couple years and have some catching up to do (I think I was using Java 5, but 
know I've totally missed Java 6), but when I went over the source code for that 
demo, there was no main() method in the source.  Or, more correctly, there was, 
but it was commented out.  That, right there, is an indication that if you're 
writing an app in Java to be launched "normally," there will be different 
preparations than if you're using JNLP.  (I haven't used JNLP yet, but I did 
write some applets and even set up a couple Java apps to be both apps and 
applets.)

I even looked at their more in depth tutorial on deploying a JNLP project, but 
didn't find any way to launch one, other than through a browser.  (Which I 
don't want to do -- then I have to figure out the default browser from within a 
Java class on Windows, Linux, and OS X and launch it.)

>> You need some sort of xml file defining the app to launch and while java  
>> does not (want to) understand the smb:// protocol we are stuck.
>> 
>> I can indeed play JNLP based java applications that are hosted online but 
>> I cannot run the java application I want to run while is on samba share. 
>> At least not directly ;-(
> 
> Try using a UNC path in the JNLP descriptor, e.g.,
> file:server/share/app.jar. Windows clients will understand that.

This works on Windows, with SMB, but that brings us back to the original point: 
Accessing a file on a network share without mounting the share.  On Windows, 
since SMB is built in, you can easily do that.  On Linux, you can't.  You can 
use smbclient and copy the file over to your system if it's on an SMB share, 
but nobody yet has provided a way to access a file on a network share from 
Linux without either mounting the share or copying the file over to the local 
computer first.

I'm looking at Java RMI, but that involves certificates and so on and I'm still 
not sure if I will easily be able to put that much on a client system that is 
trying to run the program.



Hal

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Re (3): docx; was Re^2: OTF conversion without OpenOffice

[peasthope]

From:   Camaleon 
Date:   Sun, 24 Apr 2011 16:28:01 + (UTC)
> What you are getting is a common/documented error, don't worry. To solve 
> it you have to edit the XML file and remove the line at the top that 
> links the XML with a stylesheet (XSL).
> 
> For example:
> 
> 
> 
> ...
> 
> Just remove the second line.

Haven't found anything invoking the style sheet in document.xml.
It begins with these lines.

http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/markup-compatibility/2006"; 
xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" 

I've yet to use a stylesheet and wonder whether there is a way to invoke 
one implicitly or indirectly.

Thanks for the ideas, ... Peter E.

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Re: Libtrash: Have any of you successfully activated it?

[Ron Johnson]

From the link that you so handily provided in your OP:

Configuring libtrash
Oddly enough, before you install libtrash, you must configure it. The 
libtrash-1.8/libtrash.conf file comes preconfigured with default 
settings. When libtrash is compiled, the /etc/libtrash.conf file is 
created, but this file only reflects the default configuration of libtrash.


That doesn’t mean you can’t reconfigure libtrash. It just takes a little 
extra work. There are two configurations available when libtrash is 
activated:


* Systemwide configuration: This is used for all users. This 
configuration is read from the /etc/libtrash.conf file.
* Personal configurations: Each user may use a separate 
configuration. Separate configurations are enabled through settings read 
from the .libtrash file in the home directory of each user.



Systemwide configuration
Systemwide settings are made through the /etc/libtrash.conf file. The 
required settings must be made prior to compiling libtrash. Changing the 
/etc/libtrash.conf file after compiling libtrash will not change the 
default behavior of the program. To enforce the idea that this file 
should never be edited, no users are given write permission to this 
file. The /etc/libtrash.conf file is a read-only file for all users, 
including root. Therefore, you’ll make changes to the 
libtrash-1.8/libtrash.conf file prior to installation.


There are four entries in the libtrash.conf that are used as 
environmental variables and cannot be changed by a user's personal 
configuration settings when libtrash is run. These four settings are:


* DEBUG
* PERSONAL_CONF_FILE
* WARNING_STRING
* UNCOVER_DIRS


The next four settings allow libtrash to intercept the standard routines 
Linux uses when files are unlinked or renamed. Your safest bet is to use 
the defaults for all of these settings:


* INTERCEPT_UNLINK= YES
* INTERCEPT_RENAME = YES
* INTERCEPT_FOPEN
* INTERCEPT_OPEN


More options, more control
The rest of options give you more control over libtrash. These options are:

* TRASH_CAN = Trash
  This entry sets the name for the subdirectory where deleted files 
will be stored. The default name for this directory is Trash. Any name 
may be used. To change the directory name, enter the new name without 
any slashes.

* IN_CASE_OF- FAILURE =
  This setting determines how libtrash reacts when there is a 
failure. Setting this value to PROTECT prevents files from being deleted 
by the standard Linux function. Setting the value to ALLOW_DESTRUCTION 
overrides libtrash.


* SHOULD-WARN = YES
  This setting enables a warning message for libtrash. It's 
normally a good idea to remind users that their files will be 
permanently deleted when libtrash is disabled. This is especially true 
if users on the system are new to Linux or for users who assume libtrash 
is always running.

* PROTECT_TRASH = YES
  This setting protects files in the trash from being deleted. 
Files placed in the user's trash represent a special case. Libtrash 
functions by sending deleted files to a trashcan in the user's home 
directory. When the user wants to delete files in the trashcan, the 
default libtrash doesn't work.

* IGNORE_ENTENSIONS =
  This setting allows you to specify files with specific extensions 
that may be deleted without being copied to the trashcan. To specify 
which types may be ignored by libtrash, create a semicolon delimited 
separated list of the file extensions to be ignored. Do not include a 
dot (.) before the extension. For example, to allow .o, .c, and log 
files to be deleted without being moved to the trashcan, use this entry: 
IGNORE_ENTENSIONS = o; c; log

* IGNORE_HIDDEN = YES
  Hidden files and files inside hidden directories may be sent to 
the trash. Setting this entry to YES allows Linux to delete hidden files 
without moving them to the trash. Stick with the default value of YES 
and override it if you must on a per-user basis.

* IGNORE_EDITOR_BACKUP = NO
  This entry will ensure that backups of important files are always 
sent to the trash. These are files that end with a tilde (~). The 
default is yes. Changing this setting might be a good idea.

* IGNORE-EDITOR-TEMPORARY = YES
  This entry concerns temporary files created by editors. Setting 
this entry to YES allows these temporary files to be removed without 
moving them to the trash. Set the entry to NO to allow libtrash to move 
these files to the user's trash. Stick with the default and change this 
setting on a per-user basis.

* LIBTRASH_CONFIG_FILE_UNREMOVEABLE = YES
  This entry provides protection for the user's personal libtrash 
configuration file. Removing your own configuration file will cause 
unexpected actions from libtrash. Leave this setting alone.

* TRASH_SYSTEM_ROOT
  The TRASH_SYSTEM_ROOT variable specifies the location of the 
directory under the trash that will function as the roo

Re: Issue writing image to disk via dd

[Mark Kane]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011, at 22:54:48 +0800, Huang, Tao wrote:
> what about a binary diff on those two written images.
> 
> i guess the difference should be at the beginning / end of the device.
> just diff their hex value instead of a real binary diff.
> try
> 
> $ dd if=/dev/sda bs=1024 count=1 | hexdump -x > outfile
> 
> or
> 
> $ dd if=/dev/sda bs=1024 skip=30719 count=1 | hexdump -x > outfile
> (31457280=1024*30720)
> 
> diff those outfiles and hopefully we can see what's happenning with
> different dd builds.

When using either of the above commands, there is no difference
outputted from diff between the data written by Lenny (where it works)
and Squeeze (where it doesn't).

That got me to think that maybe it's not at the very beginning/end, so
I tried this:

# dd if=/dev/sda bs=1024 count=30720 | hexdump -x > outfile

In that case, there is a difference between Lenny and Squeeze and I
have attached the diff.

As another test, I tried writing the image to sdb which is a blank
disk. If I do this:

# dd if=/dev/sdb bs=1024 count=30720 | hexdump -x > outfile

...there is no difference between the data written from Lenny and
Squeeze as there was above when it was written to sda (which contains
the live running file system).

So I guess that narrows it down a bit. The problem in Etch and
Squeeze only happens when overwriting the device with the live
file system. When writing to a separate disk everything works as
expected. 

Thanks,

-Mark488,634d487
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RE: list all the devices connected to the router

[Kamaraju S Kusumanchi]

shawn wilson wrote:

> sense no one has mentioned it yet - nmap -sP 192.168.1.*

Thanks for the nmap command. This lists some of the machines but not all. 
For example, when I look at 192.168.1.1 in a web browser I see that the 
router is connected to 192.168.1.36 . However, it does not show up in the 
nmap output.

$nmap -sP 192.168.1.*

Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2011-04-24 19:44 EDT
Host dslrouter.westell.com (192.168.1.1) is up (0.0011s latency).
Host D76PB4B1.westell.com (192.168.1.21) is up (0.00049s latency).
Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (2 hosts up) scanned in 2.45 seconds

The 192.168.1.36 is my vonage phone connection. I am unable to ping it 
either. However, my phone works so the connection must be alive.

Any other ideas?
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Re: Laptop won't boot after installation - disk error

[Allan Wind]

On 2011-04-24 22:18:02, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I just did a fresh installation of Debian. Everything seemed to go off
> correctly but when I came to reboot I got:
> 
> Non-system disk or disk error: replace and strike any key when ready.
> 
> I reinstalled twice and also reinstalled grub twice. No errors reported.
> I suspect a hard disk failure or cmos problem. Any other ideas? Is it
> possible to boot via a cdrom? All the files are there on the hard disk
> when I look at it via rescue.

I recently upgraded my laptop and the new laptop required the 
boot flag set.  You can do that via fdisk (or friends) when 
booting into rescue or go through the install and set it there 
but accept the option of keeping the data.  Then just restart 
after the new partition table is written out.


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Re: Libtrash: Have any of you successfully activated it?

[Jason Hsu]

The files that I deleted or removed with "rm" didn't show up in the Trash 
folder.  I tried adding those commands to the /etc/profile file and the 
/home/(username)/.bashrc files, but that didn't work.

What's the proper way to configure libtrash?  Is it working on your computer?  
When you delete a file in the GUI or remove it with the "rm" command, does it 
show up in your Trash folder?

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 17:41:52 -0500
Ron Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Define "didn't work".  Returned an error message?
> 
> > Adding that code to /home/(username)/.bashrc didn't work either.
> >
> > Has ANYONE successfully implemented libtrash?
> >
> 
> Did you configure it properly?
> 

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Re: Libtrash: Have any of you successfully activated it?

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/24/2011 03:45 PM, Jason Hsu wrote:

Installing Libtrash from Synaptic is easy enough.  However, I can't for the 
life of me figure out how to activate it.


From 
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/safely-delete-linux-files-with-libtrash/5034918
 , I'm supposed to add the following code (had to use a different file for the 
LD_PRELOAD command) to /etc/profile:


export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libtrash/libtrash.so.2.4
alias trashon=”export TRASH_OFF=NO”
alias trashoff=”export TRASH_OFF=YES”

But entering "trashon" in the command line didn't work.



Define "didn't work".  Returned an error message?


Adding that code to /home/(username)/.bashrc didn't work either.

Has ANYONE successfully implemented libtrash?



Did you configure it properly?


If libtrash is inherently ineffective, what are some lightweight alternatives I 
should use?




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Re: Backlight mystery - anyone shed light? some progress

[shawn wilson]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Anthony Campbell  wrote:
> On 24 Apr 2011, Anthony Campbell wrote:
>> On 24 Apr 2011, Camaleón wrote:
>
>
> Well, it's beginning to look as if it was a hardware problem all along.
> The Windows partition disappeared and the backlight began to work
> perfectly. I decided to do a reinstall in the former Windows partition.
> Everything seemed to go off correctly but when I came to reboot into
> Debian I got Nonsystem Disk or disk failure: Replace and strike any key
> when ready.
>
> I think there must have been some hardware failure.

that's your mbr talking to you. don't think that's hardware 'failure'.


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Re: docx; was Re^2: OTF conversion without OpenOffice

[Lisi]

On Sunday 24 April 2011 18:34:55 Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:28:29 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > On Sunday 24 April 2011 16:38:23 Camaleón wrote:
> >> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 08:27:33 -0800, peasthope wrote:
> >> > MS invented docx.  Now when John Doe wants to say "Summer Vacation
> >> > Planning Meeting.  Bring your coffee mug to the boardroom at 3:00."
> >> > he can send an archive containing a hierarchy of a dozen or so files.
> >> > Several kB in total.
> > Why not .txt?  Even simpler, will retain all the information and be
> > readable with almost anything.
>
> How about images and text formatting? With plain text files you miss them
> (html should be a nice alternative but again, images have to be enclosed
> apart) ;-)

There are no images in the text above.  it is just that - simple text. "Summer 
Vacation Planning Meeting.  Bring your coffee mug to the boardroom at 3:00."

I was not referring to a putative complicated document, but to this specific 
example, and others like it.  For this specific example .pdf is overkill.

Lisi


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Re: Sending from newsreader

[Sven Joachim]

On 2011-04-24 22:24 +0200, Siard wrote:

> I wrote:
>> BUT I found that if I move your post from the newsgroup in Sylpheed to
>> a mail folder, I can reply from there, while the 'In-Reply-To' and the
>> 'References' in the headers seem OK, so the thread is not even broken.
>
> Alas, the thread _does_ appear to be broken

Never reply by mail if you use a mail-to-news gateway that mangles
Message-IDs, like bofh.it.  Reply by news via the same gateway or
(preferably) use some other gateway that does not rewrite Message-IDs,
e.g. Gmane.

Sven


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Re: Sending from newsreader

[Florian Rehnisch]

[header fullquote]

o Siard :
> Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod
> From: Siard 
> Newsgroups: linux.debian.user
> Subject: Re: Sending from newsreader
> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 22:50:02 +0200
> Message-ID: 
> References:   
> 
  ^^^
> X-Original-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Old-Return-Path: 
> X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.9 tagged_above=-1 required=5.3
>   tests=[BAYES_00=-2, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5] autolearn=ham
> X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5
> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.24.4; i486-pc-linux-gnu)
> X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux Wheezy
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Originalarrivaltime: 24 Apr 2011 20:24:31.0276 (UTC) 
> FILETIME=[9E2D86C0:01CC02BD]
> X-Rcptdomain: lists.debian.org
> X-Mailing-List:  archive/latest/601668
> List-ID: 
> Approved: robo...@news.nic.it
> Lines: 12
> Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway
> Sender: robo...@news.nic.it
> X-Original-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 22:24:38 +0200
> X-Original-Message-ID: <20110424222438.e172da8a.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl>
> X-Original-References: 
  ^^
>   
>   
> Xref: uni-berlin.de linux.debian.user:412671

> I wrote:
>> BUT I found that if I move your post from the newsgroup in Sylpheed to
>> a mail folder, I can reply from there, while the 'In-Reply-To' and the
>> 'References' in the headers seem OK, so the thread is not even broken.

> Alas, the thread _does_ appear to be broken

unmangle the References?


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Laptop won't boot after installation - disk error

[Anthony Campbell]

I just did a fresh installation of Debian. Everything seemed to go off
correctly but when I came to reboot I got:

Non-system disk or disk error: replace and strike any key when ready.

I reinstalled twice and also reinstalled grub twice. No errors reported.
I suspect a hard disk failure or cmos problem. Any other ideas? Is it
possible to boot via a cdrom? All the files are there on the hard disk
when I look at it via rescue.

Anthony



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Re: Sending from newsreader

[Florian Rehnisch]

o Siard :
> I'm following this list through the newsgroup using Sylpheed.
> But if I send a message or reply to one, my message does not arrive.
> I know I can send a message by e-mail, even if I'm not subscribed.
> But how to reply to a message then? Sending by e-mail breaks the thread.
> Nonetheless, I see other posts that appear to be sent correctly from a
> newsreader. Is it those newsreaders that can handle this better?

Used to work w/o issues with tin and the linux.* gateway, let's see if
this message make it through.  Sending with tin.

Maybe the linux.* groups are not flagged as moderated on your news site,
or the forwarding of the news arts via email doesn't work.

 flori


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Libtrash: Have any of you successfully activated it?

[Jason Hsu]

Installing Libtrash from Synaptic is easy enough.  However, I can't for the 
life of me figure out how to activate it.

>From 
>http://www.techrepublic.com/article/safely-delete-linux-files-with-libtrash/5034918
> , I'm supposed to add the following code (had to use a different file for the 
>LD_PRELOAD command) to /etc/profile: 

export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libtrash/libtrash.so.2.4
alias trashon=”export TRASH_OFF=NO”
alias trashoff=”export TRASH_OFF=YES”

But entering "trashon" in the command line didn't work.

Adding that code to /home/(username)/.bashrc didn't work either.

Has ANYONE successfully implemented libtrash?

If libtrash is inherently ineffective, what are some lightweight alternatives I 
should use?

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Re: Backlight mystery - anyone shed light? some progress

[Anthony Campbell]

On 24 Apr 2011, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 24 Apr 2011, Camaleón wrote:


Well, it's beginning to look as if it was a hardware problem all along.
The Windows partition disappeared and the backlight began to work
perfectly. I decided to do a reinstall in the former Windows partition.
Everything seemed to go off correctly but when I came to reboot into
Debian I got Nonsystem Disk or disk failure: Replace and strike any key
when ready.

I think there must have been some hardware failure.

Anthony

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Re: Sending from newsreader

[Siard]

I wrote:
> BUT I found that if I move your post from the newsgroup in Sylpheed to
> a mail folder, I can reply from there, while the 'In-Reply-To' and the
> 'References' in the headers seem OK, so the thread is not even broken.

Alas, the thread _does_ appear to be broken


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Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2011-04-24, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:08:47 +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>
>> On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote:
>  
 Java technology offers a standard way of doing that: Java Web Start.
 It is possible to deploy a third-party application using a JNLP
 file[1].
>>>
>>> Yes but no, that's a completely different approach (AFAIK, the
>>> application has to be prepared/packaged to use it and most of the java
>>> apps out there are not intended for that purpose, meaning they are not
>>> going to be launched/run "online").
>> 
>> It is simply a means of lauching an application over the network.
>
> Most specifically over http protocol, I'd say.

It is most commonly used over HTTP, but other protocols are available
(see below).

>
>> Whether the application was intended to be launched in that way is
>> irrelevant. 
>
> Nope, it isn't :-)

Oh yes it is. Try it.

>
> You need some sort of xml file defining the app to launch and while java  
> does not (want to) understand the smb:// protocol we are stuck.
>
> I can indeed play JNLP based java applications that are hosted online but 
> I cannot run the java application I want to run while is on samba share. 
> At least not directly ;-(

Try using a UNC path in the JNLP descriptor, e.g.,
file:server/share/app.jar. Windows clients will understand that.

>
>> Once the user "trusts" the application, the local JVM will
>> load and run the JAR file exactly as if it had originally resided on the
>> local hard drive.
>
> Yes, but not all java applications are ready to be used with that method. 
> If you can tell me a sample case, I will test :-)

--- SNIP ---

I cannot provide you with a sample case to prove a negative! Instead I
invite you to download the sample .jnlp file in the link I provided
earlier and modify it to suit your LAN.

Good luck.

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Re: Monitors requiring interlaced video modes with older Nvidia video cards are out of options in wheezy

[Stephen Powell]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 04:34:13 -0400 (EDT), Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:57:07 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote:
>> 
>> I can't use the nouveau driver because the nouveau driver doesn't work
>> with interlaced video modes.  I filed a bug report a good while ago.  See
>> 
>>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=589452
>> 
>> No response.
> 
> You could try to report the bug upstream (and then tag the Debian bug 
> accordingly), since this is clearly an upstream issue.
> 
> Of course, ideally would be for you to write the support for interlaced 
> video modes, maybe with help from other people, but I'm not sure how 
> many people are interested in this.

The problem isn't that there is no support for interlaced video modes.
There IS support for interlaced video modes.  The problem is that it
DOESN'T WORK.  That's actually a good thing, because it means that the
fix is likely to be a fairly simple adjustment to existing code, rather
than writing new code to add new function.  I don't get any error messages
stating "unsupported video mode", or any such thing.  There is no indication
from looking at the logs that there is anything wrong.  I just get a black
screen.

Actually, now that I think about it, this bug report has probably been
sitting on the wrong queue all this time.  I reported the bug against
package xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, which is a user-space X driver.  But
the driver uses kernel mode setting (KMS) to set the actual video mode.
The same bug can be reproduced by using the following kernel boot parameter:

   video=VGA-1:1024x768@87i

Except that in this case the blank screen is produced on the frame-buffer
text consoles (vt1-vt6) instead of the X server console (vt7).  This tells
me that the bug is on the kernel-space side rather than the user-space
side.  If I were the maintainer, that would probably have been the first
thing I would have tried to determine.  The bug could be in the nouveau
kernel module, or perhaps in more-generic KMS code.  To determine if the
problem is nouveau-specific, I would need a non-Nvidia video card whose
driver also uses KMS.

But that brings up another issue, which is reporting bugs upstream.
The official Debian policy is "Don't report bugs upstream".  I quote from
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting:

   Don't file bugs upstream

   If you file a bug in Debian, don't send a copy to the upstream software
   maintainers yourself, as it is possible that the bug exists only in Debian.
   If necessary, the maintainer of the package will forward the bug upstream.

But if the bug is clearly in upstream code, and the maintainer is ignoring
the bug report, what else can one do?

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Re: Sending from newsreader

[Siard]

Op Sun, 24 Apr 2011 Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Du, 24 apr 11, 13:18:25, Siard wrote:
> > I'm following this list through the newsgroup using Sylpheed.
> 
> Which newsgroup? Make sure it's using a bi-directional gateway (like 
> gmane does).

linux.debian.user.

I replied to Camaleón's post using Gmane, but as I understand, posting
for the first time may take some days before being accepted.

I have tried to reply to your post using Pan, but then I got the
message below.

BUT I found that if I move your post from the newsgroup in Sylpheed to
a mail folder, I can reply from there, while the 'In-Reply-To' and the
'References' in the headers seem OK, so the thread is not even broken.
It looks like I've found another way to take part in this mailing list
without being subscribed, and without using Gmane.



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Procmail question/puzzle

[Paul E Condon]

The following procmail recipe was copied form a blog about how to set
up Debian/Exim/Procmail/Mutt to use Bogofilter. It is intended to do a
first cut at getting rid of junk that confuses Bogofilter, and appears
just before the recipe that pipes incoming mail through Bogofilter.
But I can't figure out how it works (or even if it does work). It may
just be garbled in copying somewhere along the trail from an original
good idea to a hadly formed helpful hint on the internet. (Procmail
does have its own special tweeks to reg. expressions.) In its original
form it had a particularly infelicitous name for the action file,
which I have changed, but otherwise what you see is GUI window cut and
paste form the internet. Does this make sense? Explain, please.

## 'unreadable' mail
:0:
* 1^0 
^\/Subject:.*=\?(.*big5|iso-2022-jp|ISO-2022-KR|euc-kr|gb2312|ks_c_5601-1987|windows-1251|windows-1256)\?
* 1^0 
^\/Content-Type:.*charset="(.*big5|iso-2022-jp|ISO-2022-KR|euc-kr|gb2312|ks_c_5601-1987|windows-1251|windows-1256)
unreadable_


## bogofilter spam filtering:
:0fw
| /usr/bin/bogofilter -eplu

Also, this is a regexp. Regexp.s can be garbled in email because of
line folding.  If the above is garbled on the list, I'll welcome
suggestions as to how to format it in a reposting.

TIA

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Re: Tripwire can't send report by email‏‏

[Freeman]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 07:45:37AM +, Cedric DC wrote:
> 
> I don't find how to change this "" by a FQDN the 
> 
> If I try to launch hostname -v, I have the FQDN of my server.
> root@proxytest:/etc/tripwire# hostname -f
> proxytest.subdomain.mydomain.com
> 
> Can I specify the "From address" in twcfg.txt ?
> root@proxytest:/etc/tripwire# hostname -f
> proxytest.intra.ville-issy.fr
> 
> Here my twcfg.txt file
> 
> root@proxytest:/etc/tripwire# more twcfg.txt
> ROOT  =/usr/sbin
> POLFILE   =/etc/tripwire/tw.pol
> DBFILE=/var/lib/tripwire/$(HOSTNAME).twd
> REPORTFILE=/var/lib/tripwire/report/$(HOSTNAME)-$(DATE).twr
> SITEKEYFILE   =/etc/tripwire/site.key
> LOCALKEYFILE  =/etc/tripwire/$(HOSTNAME)-local.key
> EDITOR=/usr/bin/editor
> LATEPROMPTING =false
> LOOSEDIRECTORYCHECKING =false
> MAILNOVIOLATIONS =true
> EMAILREPORTLEVEL =3
> REPORTLEVEL   =3
> SYSLOGREPORTING =true
> MAILMETHOD=SMTP
> SMTPHOST  =localhost
> #SMTPHOST  =smtp.altitudetelecom.fr
> SMTPPORT  =25
> 

Can you send other mail successfully from this machine through
smtp.altitudetelecom.fr using your MTA (maybe exim4?)?

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Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:08:47 +, Liam O'Toole wrote:

> On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote:
 
>>> Java technology offers a standard way of doing that: Java Web Start.
>>> It is possible to deploy a third-party application using a JNLP
>>> file[1].
>>
>> Yes but no, that's a completely different approach (AFAIK, the
>> application has to be prepared/packaged to use it and most of the java
>> apps out there are not intended for that purpose, meaning they are not
>> going to be launched/run "online").
> 
> It is simply a means of lauching an application over the network.

Most specifically over http protocol, I'd say.

> Whether the application was intended to be launched in that way is
> irrelevant. 

Nope, it isn't :-)

You need some sort of xml file defining the app to launch and while java  
does not (want to) understand the smb:// protocol we are stuck.

I can indeed play JNLP based java applications that are hosted online but 
I cannot run the java application I want to run while is on samba share. 
At least not directly ;-(

> Once the user "trusts" the application, the local JVM will
> load and run the JAR file exactly as if it had originally resided on the
> local hard drive.

Yes, but not all java applications are ready to be used with that method. 
If you can tell me a sample case, I will test :-)

>>> (I have come very late to this thread, so forgive me if the above has
>>> already been mentioned.)
>>
>> I already knew that tool but I'm afraid it does not work the way I want
>> (or the way Windows clients do) ;-(
> 
> The application launch should have the same behaviour on all supported
> platforms. In what way is it unsatisfactory?

JNLP based java apps yes, but again, at least that does not fit with my 
app :-(

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Re: test usb drive read / write speed

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 13:58:59 -0400, Doug wrote:

> On 04/24/2011 09:44 AM, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> It seems to be using "palimtest", a nice GUI tool included within the
>> GNOME desktop. Just a careful note here, write speed test needs the
>> device to be completely empty (with no data nor partitions).
>>
>>
> Do you mean "palimpsest" or is that something else?

Yep, that's it, I misspelled the name of the tool :-)

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Re: Re (2): docx; was Re^2: OTF conversion without OpenOffice

[Greg Madden]

On Sunday 24 April 2011 09:05:34 am peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

> I get that.  But the function of a browser is to interpret
> a text in an XML language, into a form for input to a human.
> I just don't see how to make Iceweasel recognize the structure
> of this document.  The style is there but Iceweasel doesn't
> get it.

Maybe something like this.

Firefox has addons that can view XML files ie: 'OpenXMLviewer'
Google 'xml viewer' & firefox . 

Not sure what works with the Iceweasel version in Squeeze.
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Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2011-04-24, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 15:02:19 +, Liam O'Toole wrote:
>
>> On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote:
>>> I have a jar file (the application is a fax client for HylaFAX) that
>>> needs to be accessed/launched over the network because by doing so I
>>> only have to update one file and then all the clients are automatically
>>> updated.
>> 
>> Java technology offers a standard way of doing that: Java Web Start. It
>> is possible to deploy a third-party application using a JNLP file[1].
>
> Yes but no, that's a completely different approach (AFAIK, the 
> application has to be prepared/packaged to use it and most of the java 
> apps out there are not intended for that purpose, meaning they are not 
> going to be launched/run "online").

It is simply a means of lauching an application over the network.
Whether the application was intended to be launched in that way is
irrelevant. Once the user "trusts" the application, the local JVM will
load and run the JAR file exactly as if it had originally resided on the
local hard drive.

>  
>> [1]
>> http://download.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/deployment/webstart/
> deploying.html
>> 
>> (I have come very late to this thread, so forgive me if the above has
>> already been mentioned.)
>
> I already knew that tool but I'm afraid it does not work the way I want 
> (or the way Windows clients do) ;-(

The application launch should have the same behaviour on all supported
platforms. In what way is it unsatisfactory?

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Re: list all the devices connected to the router

[shawn wilson]

I have got to stop doing this:

Ya know, there is a reason I pinged all addresses on a /24 net before
running arp and why I mentioned clearing the arp cache before doing this.
:)
>

s/winged/pinged/

> Again, nmap is the right tool for the job.

Re: list all the devices connected to the router

[shawn wilson]

On Apr 24, 2011 1:39 PM, "John Hasler"  wrote:
>
> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi writes:
> > However, from command line is there any way to probe for the list of
> > IP addresses of all the machines connected to the router?
>
> man arp
>

Ya know, there is a reason I winged all addresses on a /24 net before
running arp and why I mentioned clearing the arp cache before doing this.
:)

Again, nmap is the right tool for the job.

Re: test usb drive read / write speed

[Doug]

On 04/24/2011 09:44 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 12:09:00 +0800, Huang, Tao wrote:


i was trying to find out among several microSD cards which one has the
fastest speed.
i searched the web and didn't see any efficient solutions. are there
conventional ways to test usb drive read / write speed? or any block
device?

(...)

You may find useful this link:

http://grigio.org/microsd_class_6_performance_benchmarks

It seems to be using "palimtest", a nice GUI tool included within the
GNOME desktop. Just a careful note here, write speed test needs the
device to be completely empty (with no data nor partitions).

Greetings,


Do you mean "palimpsest" or is that something else?

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Re: list all the devices connected to the router

[John Hasler]

Kamaraju S Kusumanchi writes:
> However, from command line is there any way to probe for the list of
> IP addresses of all the machines connected to the router?

man arp
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Re: docx; was Re^2: OTF conversion without OpenOffice

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:28:29 +0100, Lisi wrote:

> On Sunday 24 April 2011 16:38:23 Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 08:27:33 -0800, peasthope wrote:
>> > MS invented docx.  Now when John Doe wants to say "Summer Vacation
>> > Planning Meeting.  Bring your coffee mug to the boardroom at 3:00."
>> > he can send an archive containing a hierarchy of a dozen or so files.
>> > Several kB in total.
>>
>> No, indeed. To avoid that tell (instruct) "Mr. Doe" to deliver a PDF
>> document instead and problem solved ;-)
> 
> Why not .txt?  Even simpler, will retain all the information and be
> readable with almost anything.  

How about images and text formatting? With plain text files you miss them 
(html should be a nice alternative but again, images have to be enclosed 
apart) ;-)

PDF being an ISO standard is a very good alternative for handling 
documents that do not need to be edited but viewed and it features very 
good compression methods for images.

> I suppose at a pinch .rtf, but I don't
> see that any formatting is necessary for that information.

RTF has a big drawback: it generates very big documents not suitable for 
sending them attached to an e-mail ;-(

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Re: list all the devices connected to the router

[shawn wilson]

> seq 0 254 | while read f; do ping -c 1 $f; done; arp

g, that should be:
seq 0 254 | while read f; do ping -c 1 192.168.1.$f; done; arp


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RE: list all the devices connected to the router

[shawn wilson]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Huang, Tao  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
>  wrote:
>> I connect my PCs to internet via Verizon DSL router. When I go to
>> 192.168.1.1 in a browser (say firefox), I am able to see all the computers
>> connected to this router.
>>
>> However, from command line is there any way to probe for the list of IP
>> addresses of all the machines connected to the router?
>
> can u ssh / telnet to the router.
> there might be native utilities that u can run from the router's shell.
>
> for example, with dd-wrt firmware on supported routers, just run "ifconfig".

sense no one has mentioned it yet - nmap -sP 192.168.1.*
will get you what you want. now, a nice little trick i used to do on
semi embedded systems that i didn't want to install anything on (emc
darp, and vmware esx):
seq 0 254 | while read f; do ping -c 1 $f; done; arp
you might want to clear your arp cache first though:
ip neigh flush all

... though, something tells me you're not going to be doing any of
this because nmap is the right tool for the job :)


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Re: Sending from newsreader

[Andrei Popescu]

On Du, 24 apr 11, 13:18:25, Siard wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm following this list through the newsgroup using Sylpheed.

Which newsgroup? Make sure it's using a bi-directional gateway (like 
gmane does).

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Re: docx; was Re^2: OTF conversion without OpenOffice

[Lisi]

On Sunday 24 April 2011 16:38:23 Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 08:27:33 -0800, peasthope wrote:
> > MS invented docx.  Now when John Doe wants to say "Summer Vacation
> > Planning Meeting.  Bring your coffee mug to the boardroom at 3:00." he
> > can send an archive containing a hierarchy of a dozen or so files.
> > Several kB in total.
>
> No, indeed. To avoid that tell (instruct) "Mr. Doe" to deliver a PDF
> document instead and problem solved ;-)

Why not .txt?  Even simpler, will retain all the information and be readable 
with almost anything.  I suppose at a pinch .rtf, but I don't see that any 
formatting is necessary for that information.

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Re: list all the devices connected to the router

[Huang, Tao]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
 wrote:
> I connect my PCs to internet via Verizon DSL router. When I go to
> 192.168.1.1 in a browser (say firefox), I am able to see all the computers
> connected to this router.
>
> However, from command line is there any way to probe for the list of IP
> addresses of all the machines connected to the router?

can u ssh / telnet to the router.
there might be native utilities that u can run from the router's shell.

for example, with dd-wrt firmware on supported routers, just run "ifconfig".


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Re: list all the devices connected to the router

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 12:52:22 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:

> I connect my PCs to internet via Verizon DSL router. When I go to
> 192.168.1.1 in a browser (say firefox), I am able to see all the
> computers connected to this router.
> 
> However, from command line is there any way to probe for the list of IP
> addresses of all the machines connected to the router?

There are some tools that can help you with that, like "netdiscover".

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Re: list all the devices connected to the router

[Chris Brennan]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
 wrote:

I connect my PCs to internet via Verizon DSL router. When I go to
> 192.168.1.1 in a browser (say firefox), I am able to see all the computers
> connected to this router.
>
> However, from command line is there any way to probe for the list of IP
> addresses of all the machines connected to the router?
>
> thanks
>

You could just portmap your LAN's range (i.e. 192.168.1.0-255) for active
IP's. Remember that your router will show up w/ an IP in use as well as each
computer you know about on your LAN, so if you have more IP's in use then
computers, start hunting *and secure your wireless*!!!

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list all the devices connected to the router

[Kamaraju S Kusumanchi]

I connect my PCs to internet via Verizon DSL router. When I go to 
192.168.1.1 in a browser (say firefox), I am able to see all the computers 
connected to this router.

However, from command line is there any way to probe for the list of IP 
addresses of all the machines connected to the router?

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Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 10:16:15 +, Camaleón wrote:

>> I think Linux might give better control over things like permissions.
>> In my case, the server will be running Debian 6.x.
> 
> Now you mention... I've got a samba share on a Debian server (this is in
> another network), and windows clients accessing to it. I can make some
> tests here, will report back as soon as I can give any news on this :-)

Tested and I cannot get it to work ;-(

What I've found out by searching the web is a possible workaround that 
makes use of GVFS and Fuse (this is under GNOME). 

By using these two daemons one can run "gvfs-mount //server/share" and it 
will recreate the full structure of the network share under "~/.gvfs/
share at server" so "java -jar" pointing to this path does not complain 
and runs the file fine. 

This is something like doing "mount -t cifs ..." with the advantadge that 
this can be done by the user itself (no root password needed) so the 
virtual mount point can be mounted only when required -on the fly-, no 
need no edit "/etc/fstab" and define the static samba share on every boot.

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Re: Re (2): docx; was Re^2: OTF conversion without OpenOffice

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 09:05:34 -0800, peasthope wrote:

> From: Camaleon
> Subject:  Re: docx; was Re^2: OTF conversion without OpenOffice
>> No, indeed. To avoid that tell (instruct) "Mr. Doe" to deliver a PDF
>> document instead and problem solved ;-)
> 
> Or send an email containing a message of about 82 ASCII characters. For
> most of the population, the computer has become a sorcerer's apprentice.

Sure, but our task is to tell the users how to mix the components to make 
"white magic" and don't let them to fall into the dark side O:-)

>> But docx's XML is raw format, meaning that you barely can get access to
>> some pieces of the doc text but it will be completely unstructured and
>> meaningless.
> 
> I get that.  But the function of a browser is to interpret a text in an
> XML language, into a form for input to a human. I just don't see how to
> make Iceweasel recognize the structure of this document.  The style is
> there but Iceweasel doesn't get it.

What you are getting is a common/documented error, don't worry. To solve 
it you have to edit the XML file and remove the line at the top that 
links the XML with a stylesheet (XSL).

For example:



...

Just remove the second line.

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Re (2): docx; was Re^2: OTF conversion without OpenOffice

[peasthope]

From:   Camaleon 
Subject:Re: docx; was Re^2: OTF conversion without OpenOffice
> No, indeed. To avoid that tell (instruct) "Mr. Doe" to deliver a PDF 
> document instead and problem solved ;-)

Or send an email containing a message of about 82 ASCII characters.  
For most of the population, the computer has become a sorcerer's 
apprentice.

> But docx's XML is raw format, meaning that you 
> barely can get access to some pieces of the doc text but it will be 
> completely unstructured and meaningless.

I get that.  But the function of a browser is to interpret 
a text in an XML language, into a form for input to a human.
I just don't see how to make Iceweasel recognize the structure 
of this document.  The style is there but Iceweasel doesn't 
get it.

Regards,... Peter E.

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Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

[Rob Owens]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:28:01AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> 
> On Apr 23, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 01:03:00PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> >> I now know I can use smbclient to read files on an SMB share without 
> >> having to mount it, but I need to do more than that.
> >> 
> >> I want to be able to access either Java classes or an executable on a 
> >> shared volume on a server without having to mount the volume on the local 
> >> system. (There are a couple reasons for not wanting to mount.)  I know on 
> >> Windows I can list the files on an SMB share on another system and access 
> >> them using SMB/CIFS by just specifying the volume properly on the command 
> >> line.  I want to do something like that on Linux, but do more than just 
> >> listing the files or copying them to the local computer.
> >> 
> >> I need a way, on Linux, to access files on a network share, which could be 
> >> SMB or NFS (or something else) without mounting the volume.  For example, 
> >> if I'm on System A and I have an executable on System B, and it's on a 
> >> network share on System B, is there any way to run that executable without 
> >> mounting that share as a volume on System A?
> >> 
> > Here's a possible workaround.  It involves mounting, but as a regular
> > user.
> > 
> > I'd use sshfs.  The remote server needs to have an ssh server running.
> > Then you can run this:
> > 
> > sshfs remoteserver:/some/path localdir
> > 
> > Then you can ls localdir, or operate on any of the files there.
> > 
> > If you use public key authentication and ssh-add, you can do this
> > without needing to enter a password.
> > 
> > I've never used this to access a non-linux machine, but in theory it
> > should work on anything that is running an ssh server.
> 
> That is mounting, but, as I mentioned in another email, clients that use 
> Linux on a desktop are a lot easier to deal with on these things than Windows 
> users.
> 
> I still have to test on Windows to be sure that I can actually run a jar from 
> an unmounted SMB share.  I can operate on files like that, so I would think I 
> can run a jar that way.
> 
> sshfs sounds like a good idea and I'll look into it.  That would work on both 
> the Mac and Linux.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
I'm not sure if cygwin has sshfs available, but if it does then you
could use sshfs from a Windows box.

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spelling; was Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze

[peasthope]

*   From: peasth...@shaw.ca
*   Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:56:47 -0800
> ... UTF8 ...

Correct spelling is UTF-8, ... Peter E.



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Re: docx; was Re^2: OTF conversion without OpenOffice

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 08:27:33 -0800, peasthope wrote:

(Uf... a very old thread, I've completely forgotten the full context :-P)

> MS invented docx.  Now when John Doe wants to say "Summer Vacation
> Planning Meeting.  Bring your coffee mug to the boardroom at 3:00." he
> can send an archive containing a hierarchy of a dozen or so files.
> Several kB in total.

No, indeed. To avoid that tell (instruct) "Mr. Doe" to deliver a PDF 
document instead and problem solved ;-)

> * From: Camaleón *   Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010
> 14:39:22 + (UTC)
>> ... "document.xml" is the main file, the one that contains the text of
>> the document.
> 
> When iceweasel attempts to open document.xml it reports "This XML file
> does not appear to have any style information associated with it.  ..." 
> styles.xml is there but iceweasel misses it.
> 
> Anyone have a clever way of opening the document with Iceweasel.

XML is a plain text format so you can open it with any text editor (gedit/
mcedit/vim/pico/emacs...). But docx's XML is raw format, meaning that you 
barely can get access to some pieces of the doc text but it will be 
completely unstructured and meaningless.

You better try to open the file with an updated verion of Libre Office or 
ask someone to open it for you and then he/she can return it to you in a 
more open and standard format.

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Re^2: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze

[peasthope]

*   From: Jude DaShiell 
*   Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:59:35 -0400 (EDT)
> Why not download mtools and then try mdir a:/ and then try man mtools?  
> Even if floppy disks were inserted after booting I've been able to 
> access them using mtools in the past.

Thanks I'll try it, ... Peter E. 

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updating the BIOS on the Foxconn board didn't help.
Setting the kernel parameter "reboot=bios" did.


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Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 15:02:19 +, Liam O'Toole wrote:

> On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote:
>> I have a jar file (the application is a fax client for HylaFAX) that
>> needs to be accessed/launched over the network because by doing so I
>> only have to update one file and then all the clients are automatically
>> updated.
> 
> Java technology offers a standard way of doing that: Java Web Start. It
> is possible to deploy a third-party application using a JNLP file[1].

Yes but no, that's a completely different approach (AFAIK, the 
application has to be prepared/packaged to use it and most of the java 
apps out there are not intended for that purpose, meaning they are not 
going to be launched/run "online").
 
> [1]
> http://download.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/deployment/webstart/
deploying.html
> 
> (I have come very late to this thread, so forgive me if the above has
> already been mentioned.)

I already knew that tool but I'm afraid it does not work the way I want 
(or the way Windows clients do) ;-(

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docx; was Re^2: OTF conversion without OpenOffice

[peasthope]

MS invented docx.  Now when John Doe wants to say "Summer 
Vacation Planning Meeting.  Bring your coffee mug to the boardroom 
at 3:00." he can send an archive containing a hierarchy of a 
dozen or so files. Several kB in total.  

*   From: brownh 
*   Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 07:11:47 -0400
> 3. Abiword can be used to convert the document format 
> from .docx to, say, .pdf. 

In Squeeze, AbiWord 2.4.6 reports "Error importing file 
/home/peter/blah.doc.docx."
According to release notes, docx capability appears in 2.8.0.

*   From: Camaleón 
*   Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 14:39:22 + (UTC)
> ... "document.xml" is the main file, the one that contains 
> the text of the document.

When iceweasel attempts to open document.xml it reports 
"This XML file does not appear to have any style information 
associated with it.  ..."  styles.xml is there but iceweasel misses it.

Anyone have a clever way of opening the document with Iceweasel.

Thanks,  ... Peter E.



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Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2011-04-24, Camaleón  wrote:
> I have a jar file (the application is a fax client for HylaFAX) that 
> needs to be accessed/launched over the network because by doing so I only 
> have to update one file and then all the clients are automatically 
> updated.

Java technology offers a standard way of doing that: Java Web Start. It
is possible to deploy a third-party application using a JNLP file[1].

[1]
http://download.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/deployment/webstart/deploying.html

(I have come very late to this thread, so forgive me if the above has
already been mentioned.)

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Re: network-manager and resolv.conf

[tony mollica]

On 04/22/2011 11:58 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:25:36 -0700, tony mollica wrote:


Using deb6-amd64 and I've searched for an acceptable solution but I find
none that I like.

The problem is that I would like to have this 'option single-request'
lline in
/etc/resolv.conf but network-manager continuously removes the line (and
anything else it doesn't care for).  There must be a way to identify
this line
as a permanent line or add it to the network manager config somewhere so
it is always added back in when resolv.conf is changed.

Question is:  Where is that setting located?


"If you can't beat them, join them" :-)

Look at "man networkmanager", it seems that you can tell NM to pass some
values by scripting the desired commands by means of "/etc/NetworkManager/
dispatcher.d/" folder.

Maybe you can create a simple script -carefully look for the script
requirements- that adds the "option single-request" value to "/etc/
resolv.conf" every time NM is in use.

Greetings,



Been through the docs several times, and maybe I missed it, but I find no
documentation on file names or formats for inserting persistent settings
into the /etc/resolv.conf rewrites done by nm.

Realistically, nm should be able to recognize
ANY 'options' lines in resolv.conf and leave it there.

thanks,
-
tony


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Re: Issue writing image to disk via dd

[Huang, Tao]

what about a binary diff on those two written images.

i guess the difference should be at the beginning / end of the device.
just diff their hex value instead of a real binary diff.
try

$ dd if=/dev/sda bs=1024 count=1 | hexdump -x > outfile

or

$ dd if=/dev/sda bs=1024 skip=30719 count=1 | hexdump -x > outfile
(31457280=1024*30720)

diff those outfiles and hopefully we can see what's happenning with
different dd builds.


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Re: Please recommend an external HDD enclosure

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/24/2011 03:42 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:
[snip]


BTW, what type of backups do you use? It takes 5 DVDs just for my photo
collection!



An external esata enclosure stuffed full off drives.

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Re: Please recommend an external HDD enclosure

[Zoran Kolic]

> Not quite. With this set-up, I wanted the home partition on the external
> drive.

Yep, freebsd is a bit different. It assumes operator is not a
newbee at all.

> That is a potential candidate, because allthe installs mentione were on a
> laptop - HP nx6120 - which is now almost six years old.

Ah, I have nx9020, and freebsd on it. Works like a charm, so far.

> This was the problem. It showed up nowhere. If it had, I would have been
> able to mount it somehow, but I couldn't because as far as the O.S. was
> concerned, it didn't exist. With Debian, no problem! I'm writing to it now.
> But no chance with BSD.

You have to tell it where the partition is in fstab. I would try
with this:
  /dev/da0  /home   ufs rw,auto 0   0
Be carefull not to have more usb devices, since than the proper
device name could be different.
What is wrong with /home on hdd? You might have it on hdd and one
soft link to nonadmin user on usb drive. Like, root on hdd and
the directory for yourself as a simlink to usb drive, which has
to be mounted during boot process (fstab). Simply, make new user,
then remove his directory, make simlink, connect usb drive, par-
tition it and make file system, then add a line to fstab and do
reboot. Correct device should be /usr/home/name.
I'n not aware if debian could read and write to ffs2.
Best regards

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Re: test usb drive read / write speed

[Huang, Tao]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
[...]
> You may find useful this link:
>
> http://grigio.org/microsd_class_6_performance_benchmarks
>
> It seems to be using "palimtest", a nice GUI tool included within the
> GNOME desktop. Just a careful note here, write speed test needs the
> device to be completely empty (with no data nor partitions).

thanks.

it's totally accecptable to wipe a SD card.

the "palimpsest" in this article is in the debian "gnome-disk-utility" package.
search it with google, i also find this article useful:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSD_Benchmarking

i don't think "echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" is a good idea.
mounting a fs with the flag "sync" disables it's buffers, doesn't it?


if dealing with raw device is the case. one can always use

$ dd if=infile of=/dev/raw_block_device seek=

to write to any part of that device.


i'll run palimpsest on my cards tomorrow to see if it's results cover
everything i want.


Cheers,
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Re: Issue writing image to disk via dd

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 01:15:31AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-04-23 at 21:49 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > You know 1M stands for 1*1000*1000*1000 not 1*1024*1024*1024.
> 
> I'm half asleep, so I may not be thinking straight, but isn't that one
> too many multiplications, in both cases?

Yep.  I was sleeper than you.
 
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Re: test usb drive read / write speed

[Huang, Tao]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Ron Johnson  wrote:
> On 04/23/2011 11:09 PM, Huang, Tao wrote:
[snip]
>> is there a utility that:
>> 1. benchmarks random access,
>> 2. can do random writing on unused spaces for major filesystems,
>> 3. deals with the buffer properly.
>>
>
> bonnie++

bonnie++ doesn't seem small-device-friendly.

$ bonnie -d /path/to/test/ -s 1024
File size should be double RAM for good results, RAM is 3012M

so effectively i cant run it on any device whose size is smaller than
6G on my box.
is it what it means?

thanx

Tao


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Re: test usb drive read / write speed

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 12:09:00 +0800, Huang, Tao wrote:

> i was trying to find out among several microSD cards which one has the
> fastest speed.
> i searched the web and didn't see any efficient solutions. are there
> conventional ways to test usb drive read / write speed? or any block
> device?

(...)

You may find useful this link:

http://grigio.org/microsd_class_6_performance_benchmarks

It seems to be using "palimtest", a nice GUI tool included within the 
GNOME desktop. Just a careful note here, write speed test needs the 
device to be completely empty (with no data nor partitions).

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Re: Backlight mystery - anyone shed light? some progress

[Anthony Campbell]

On 24 Apr 2011, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 10:49:26 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> 
> > On 23 Apr 2011, Camaleón wrote:
>  
> >> Also, check for a BIOS update, most of these "ACPI things" are usually
> >> fixed after updating to the latest BIOS.
> >> 
> >> 
> > Thanks, Camaleon. I found a lot of people using the same laptop with
> > Windows who have the same problem. In some cases a bios upgrade fixed
> > it, in others not. I tried to do this but it requires using an .exe
> > file, and though I could do this with both wine and dosemu I couldn't
> > obtain a suitable iso file to do the upgrade. (Also, I was a little
> > afraid of ending up with an unbootable machine, which a few people
> > report as happening.)
> 
> Don't be afraid of a BIOS update. Laptops need this piece of code to be 
> updated more often than desktops machines due to buggy firmware and 
> notebook's embedded nature.
> 
> What happens here is that manufacturers do not always provide a utility 
> to extract the update file in order you can put it into a USB/CD-ROM to 
> run the update and sadly the complete procedure needs to be done in a 
> windows environment.
> 
> (That's one of the reasons why it is a good idea to do not remove the 
> windows partition although you don't use it on your day work :-/)
> 

Yes, I was keeping it for that reason, but unfortunately it has ceased
to work for some reason.


> > BUT I have found that by unloading and reloading the video module
> > (and/or the radeon module) I can sometimes obtain the requisite
> > backlight file in /sys/devices/virtual .., after which the screen either
> > becomes bright automatically or I can do it manually. So it seems to be
> > something to do with the order in which the modules are loaded, though I
> > can't figure out what. The effect is unpredictable - sometimes it works,
> > sometimes not.
> 
> If you can wait with that bypass, msot sure is that any kernel update 
> will solve the problem as you seemed to experience with 2.6.37 and 2.6.38 
> branches.
> 

There was an upgrade of 2.6.38 in unstable today and also an upgrade of
udev. Unfortunately I now can't even get 2.6.37 to work reliably, though
it did after a bit of fiddling. It's just hit and miss. I've come to the
conclusion I hate all laptops!

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Re: Backlight mystery - anyone shed light? some progress

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 10:49:26 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:

> On 23 Apr 2011, Camaleón wrote:
 
>> Also, check for a BIOS update, most of these "ACPI things" are usually
>> fixed after updating to the latest BIOS.
>> 
>> 
> Thanks, Camaleon. I found a lot of people using the same laptop with
> Windows who have the same problem. In some cases a bios upgrade fixed
> it, in others not. I tried to do this but it requires using an .exe
> file, and though I could do this with both wine and dosemu I couldn't
> obtain a suitable iso file to do the upgrade. (Also, I was a little
> afraid of ending up with an unbootable machine, which a few people
> report as happening.)

Don't be afraid of a BIOS update. Laptops need this piece of code to be 
updated more often than desktops machines due to buggy firmware and 
notebook's embedded nature.

What happens here is that manufacturers do not always provide a utility 
to extract the update file in order you can put it into a USB/CD-ROM to 
run the update and sadly the complete procedure needs to be done in a 
windows environment.

(That's one of the reasons why it is a good idea to do not remove the 
windows partition although you don't use it on your day work :-/)

> BUT I have found that by unloading and reloading the video module
> (and/or the radeon module) I can sometimes obtain the requisite
> backlight file in /sys/devices/virtual .., after which the screen either
> becomes bright automatically or I can do it manually. So it seems to be
> something to do with the order in which the modules are loaded, though I
> can't figure out what. The effect is unpredictable - sometimes it works,
> sometimes not.

If you can wait with that bypass, msot sure is that any kernel update 
will solve the problem as you seemed to experience with 2.6.37 and 2.6.38 
branches.

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Re: Backlight mystery - anyone shed light? some progress

[Anthony Campbell]

On 24 Apr 2011, shawn wilson wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 5:49 AM, Anthony Campbell  
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Camaleon. I found a lot of people using the same laptop with
> > Windows who have the same problem. In some cases a bios upgrade fixed
> > it, in others not. I tried to do this but it requires using an .exe
> > file, and though I could do this with both wine and dosemu I couldn't
> > obtain a suitable iso file to do the upgrade. (Also, I was a little
> > afraid of ending up with an unbootable machine, which a few people
> > report as happening.)
> >
> 
> don't run an exe bios upgrade inside of wine, dosemu, or any other vm.
> you might be able to extract the exe and find some binary file and
> then there might be some sort of linux utility to write that. however,
> when you upgrade a bios, don't do anything weird because the only way
> (that i know of) to test it is to reboot. well, if something isn't
> written correctly and you try to reboot, you'll know because the
> machine won't post.
> 
> at that point there are three choices: replace the machine, replace
> the bios (might require soldering / desoldering), or rewriting the
> firmware onto the bios (might not be possible depending on whether you
> can find schematics for a writer for that type of chip and software).
> most people (including me) shed a tear and go shopping for a new
> computer at this point.
> 
> though, if your laptop is under warranty, you could call them and make
> sure they'll replace the board if it doesn't post, once you confirm
> they will, go and have fun :)
> 
> 

Thanks - this is pretty much what I thought myself. The laptop is out of
warranty so I think I shall soldier on trying to figure out how to make
it work by some combination of module loading, since sometimes that
succeeds. Failing that, I shall have to junk it.

Anthony


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Re: Sending from newsreader

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 13:18:25 +0200, Siard wrote:

> I'm following this list through the newsgroup using Sylpheed. But if I
> send a message or reply to one, my message does not arrive. I know I can
> send a message by e-mail, even if I'm not subscribed. But how to reply
> to a message then? Sending by e-mail breaks the thread. Nonetheless, I
> see other posts that appear to be sent correctly from a newsreader. Is
> it those newsreaders that can handle this better?

I also use a newsreader to post/read to/from this mailing list.

You can use Gmane (a mail to news gateway) to send/reply messages to the 
list.

http://gmane.org/post.php

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Sending from newsreader

[Siard]

Hi,

I'm following this list through the newsgroup using Sylpheed.
But if I send a message or reply to one, my message does not arrive.
I know I can send a message by e-mail, even if I'm not subscribed.
But how to reply to a message then? Sending by e-mail breaks the thread.
Nonetheless, I see other posts that appear to be sent correctly from a
newsreader. Is it those newsreaders that can handle this better?


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Re: How to debug microphone?

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 13:18:21 +0200, Felix Natter wrote:

> Volkan YAZICI writes:
> 
>> 2) Start arecord with vumeter enabled, that is,
>>
>>  arecord -V /tmp/foo.wav
>>
>>and see if vumeter changes.
> 
> The -V option is not recognized on Lenny (and -v doesn't produce a
> vumeter).

Try with a more simple approach:

# will start recording from the default input source
arecord -d 10 /tmp/foo.wav

And when it finishes, play it with:

aplay /tmp/foo.wav

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Re: Backlight mystery - anyone shed light? some progress

[shawn wilson]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 5:49 AM, Anthony Campbell  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Camaleon. I found a lot of people using the same laptop with
> Windows who have the same problem. In some cases a bios upgrade fixed
> it, in others not. I tried to do this but it requires using an .exe
> file, and though I could do this with both wine and dosemu I couldn't
> obtain a suitable iso file to do the upgrade. (Also, I was a little
> afraid of ending up with an unbootable machine, which a few people
> report as happening.)
>

don't run an exe bios upgrade inside of wine, dosemu, or any other vm.
you might be able to extract the exe and find some binary file and
then there might be some sort of linux utility to write that. however,
when you upgrade a bios, don't do anything weird because the only way
(that i know of) to test it is to reboot. well, if something isn't
written correctly and you try to reboot, you'll know because the
machine won't post.

at that point there are three choices: replace the machine, replace
the bios (might require soldering / desoldering), or rewriting the
firmware onto the bios (might not be possible depending on whether you
can find schematics for a writer for that type of chip and software).
most people (including me) shed a tear and go shopping for a new
computer at this point.

though, if your laptop is under warranty, you could call them and make
sure they'll replace the board if it doesn't post, once you confirm
they will, go and have fun :)


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Re: Tripwire can't send report by email‏‏

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 07:28:42 +, Cedric DC wrote:

> I repost my question because I don't have posted it in the right way.
> I'm sorry, it's my first post in the Debian mailing list.

Good, but next time avoid using html in messages ;-)

(...)

> ### Error Number:504 5.5.2 : Sender address rejected: 
> need 
> ### fully-qualified address
> ### Exiting...
> Email test failed.

That usually means that remote server (located at "mydomain.com") it has 
rejected the "From:" address from your host, which is normal provided 
that you have not "masqueraded" (and you need to) your fancy e-mail 
address when you are going throught Internet.

So basically you have to go with one of these options:

1/ Instruct tripwire to use a real e-mail sender (whether possible)
2/ Configure your MTA/MDA to go out with a real/routeable e-mail address

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Re: How to debug microphone?

[Felix Natter]

Volkan YAZICI  writes:

> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 09:40:49 +0200, Felix Natter writes:
>> I'd like to use my microphone, but when I use gnome-sound-recorder, and
>> - select "Record from input: Front Mic" it doesn't record anything.
>> - select "Record from input: Line In" and attach a headset to the 3.5mm
>>   mic input (Laptop) it doesn't record anything.
>>
>> Audio play works fine in all applications.
>>
>> I am running Debian Lenny. How can I debug this?
>
> The steps I would recommend are as follows.
>
> 1) Make sure with alsamixer that mics are not muted.

I don't see the mics in alsamixer, but they aren't muted in
gnome-volume-control, see this screenshot:
https://rapidshare.com/files/458938323/mixer.png

> 2) Start arecord with vumeter enabled, that is,
>
>  arecord -V /tmp/foo.wav
>
>and see if vumeter changes.

The -V option is not recognized on Lenny (and -v doesn't produce a
vumeter).

> 3) On failure, go to (1).

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Re: test usb drive read / write speed

[Huang, Tao]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Ron Johnson  wrote:
> On 04/23/2011 11:09 PM, Huang, Tao wrote:
[snip]
>> is there a utility that:
>> 1. benchmarks random access,
>> 2. can do random writing on unused spaces for major filesystems,
>> 3. deals with the buffer properly.
>>
>
> bonnie++

thanks.
that's a convenient tool.

however, it keeps producing:

$ bonnie -d /media/tmp/
Writing a byte at a time...done
Writing intelligently...Can't write block.: No such file or directory
Can't write block 478518.
$ bonnie -d /media/tmp/
Writing a byte at a time...done
Writing intelligently...Can't write block.: No space left on device
Can't write block 474393.

i checked the default parameters. nothing seems wrong.
i was benchmarking a kingston 4GB microSD card, connected with a usb adapter.

any help will be appreciated.

Tao


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Re: firefox & gimp buttons missing - gtk issue?

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 08:54:12 +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:

> Camaleón wrote: Cn> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:12:03
> +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
>>>   yes, i found those bug reports... but there's no mention of gimp
>>> being affected. i'm REALLY loathe to install more gnome stuff if it's
>>> not going to solve all of the issues.
> Cn> Installing the suggested package will not have any bad consequences
> (it Cn> will take about ~10 MiB of disk space but nothing more).
> 
>   but the point is still being missed. will it fix gimp? i can
> live without firefox buttons, but the gimp problem is impactful. i've
> found nothing in bug reports regarding this.

This is not a bulletproof science :-), you try and see how it goes.

(IIRC, both GIMP and Iceweasel use tango icons by default)

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Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 00:13:17 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:

> On Apr 23, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Camaleón wrote:

>> I still don't know if it's a security measure or just a technical
>> barrier that needs the use of another applications to be bypassed. In
>> fact, I can run a ".jar" file over "smb://" using Nautilus but this is
>> what I get:
> 
> Do you mean you could run the jar or that you tried to?

It can be run, but the result is not what I expected (I don't want to 
treat the file as an archiver that can be unzipped it but as runeable 
program that laucnh the main java class file).
 
>> 1/ Jar file is executed but it opens with file roller (archiver
>> utility) 2/ When I try to change file permisson to make it executable I
>> get an error ("cannot change permissions to file.jar")
> 
> Did you try to change permissions from the server itself or from the
> client?  It sounds like you tried to change permissions from the client.

Yes, from the client. 

Server holding the share is a Windows XP and the perms for the volume are 
the standard (they are inherited, but group "users" -to which belong the 
debian user- are able to "[x] modify, [x] read and execute, [x] read and 
lastly [x] write".

Over Nautilus I can see the jar file is set to "744" (rwxr--r-) and owned 
by my debian user/group but when I double click on it java is not 
launched, just the unarchiver utility.

>> All this done over a NTFS volume managed by a Windows host. Maybe a
>> samba share over a linux filesystem (ext3/4/reiser/xfs...) gives
>> different results... dunno :-?
> 
> I think Linux might give better control over things like permissions. 
> In my case, the server will be running Debian 6.x.

Now you mention... I've got a samba share on a Debian server (this is in 
another network), and windows clients accessing to it. I can make some 
tests here, will report back as soon as I can give any news on this :-)
 
> Thanks for trying that -- I'm still searching and testing, but I haven't
> gotten anything to work and I need to create a test jar file I can work
> with.

I'm also interested on this. 

I have a jar file (the application is a fax client for HylaFAX) that 
needs to be accessed/launched over the network because by doing so I only 
have to update one file and then all the clients are automatically 
updated.

In windows machines there was no problem in doing so but as you, I didn't 
want to mount a samba share on the linux clients and looked for a 
solution -this was a setup I've done years ago- and finally had to copy 
the jar file in every linux client... but now you raised the issue again 
I thought this could have been solved but it seems it isn't :-)

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Re: Where do I get a list of all the fonts in my system?

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2011-04-24, Disc Magnet  wrote:
>
>  xlsfonts | grep -i vera
>
> as well as
>
> fc-list | grep -i vera
>
> returned no output.
>
> So, how is "URxvt.font:xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:pixelsize=13"
> working for my rxvt-unicode?
>

Xft uses font substitution when a font is not found. To see which font
is substituted, run the following:

fc-match "Bitstream Vera Sans Mono"

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Re: Backlight mystery - anyone shed light? some progress

[Anthony Campbell]

On 23 Apr 2011, Camaleón wrote:
 > 
> > This is a laptop (6735s) and is over a year old so not very new. I don't
> > think it has that "feature".
> >
> >  It uses the radeon driver.
> 
> You will find out in the BIOS screen. If the feature is there, there 
> should be an option to toggle it on/off under "system configuration menu/
> buit-in options"
>  
> Also, check for a BIOS update, most of these "ACPI things" are usually 
> fixed after updating to the latest BIOS.
> 

Thanks, Camaleon. I found a lot of people using the same laptop with
Windows who have the same problem. In some cases a bios upgrade fixed
it, in others not. I tried to do this but it requires using an .exe
file, and though I could do this with both wine and dosemu I couldn't
obtain a suitable iso file to do the upgrade. (Also, I was a little
afraid of ending up with an unbootable machine, which a few people
report as happening.)

BUT I have found that by unloading and reloading the video module
(and/or the radeon module) I can sometimes obtain the requisite
backlight file in /sys/devices/virtual .., after which the screen either
becomes bright automatically or I can do it manually. So it seems to be
something to do with the order in which the modules are loaded, though I
can't figure out what. The effect is unpredictable - sometimes it works,
sometimes not.

Anthony

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Re: Please recommend an external HDD enclosure

[Andrei Popescu]

On Du, 24 apr 11, 11:51:06, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:
> 
> Really, the hardware manufacturers should start paying more attention to
> non-Windows users and be more faithful to hardware specifications.

I think, especially in this particular case, sticking to the standards 
would have guaranteed a good enclosure.

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Re: firefox & gimp buttons missing - gtk issue?

[i'll teach you to turn away.]

Camaleón  wrote:
Cn> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:12:03 +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
>>   yes, i found those bug reports... but there's no mention of gimp
>> being affected. i'm REALLY loathe to install more gnome stuff if it's
>> not going to solve all of the issues.
Cn> Installing the suggested package will not have any bad consequences (it 
Cn> will take about ~10 MiB of disk space but nothing more).

but the point is still being missed. will it fix gimp? i can 
live without firefox buttons, but the gimp problem is impactful. i've 
found nothing in bug reports regarding this.

lish
cr...@got.net


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Re: Please recommend an external HDD enclosure

[Panayiotis Karabassis]

On 04/24/2011 03:21 AM, Heddle Weaver wrote:
> I sympathise with your problem.
> What do you do in this regard? Keep on buying enclosures/drives till you
> find one that works? Perhaps an update to compatible hardware lists and
> manufacturer notifications in this aspect also?

I found the compatibility lists lacking with respect to hdd enclosures.

Really, the hardware manufacturers should start paying more attention to
non-Windows users and be more faithful to hardware specifications.

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Re: Please recommend an external HDD enclosure

[Panayiotis Karabassis]

On 04/24/2011 01:13 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> G.
> 
> BACKUPS are a must-do for anyone who values their data.

Very true. But RAID is a useful first measure. One of my disks (a
Western Digital!) failed, and thanks to md I was up and running as soon
as I bought the replacement (well, before that, but I didn't want to
risk running a degraded array).

What about RAID + LVM snapshots? Is that almost as good a real backup?
It covers:
a) Hardware failures,
b) Accidental file deletions, corruptions,
c) Hosted filesystem (e.g. ext3) failures.
But doesn't cover:
a) LVM filesystem failures,
b) LVM and RAID driver problems.
But how likely are these if you are running Stable and don't go messing
with the partition table?

BTW, what type of backups do you use? It takes 5 DVDs just for my photo
collection!

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Re: Monitors requiring interlaced video modes with older Nvidia video cards are out of options in wheezy

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sb, 23 apr 11, 17:57:07, Stephen Powell wrote:
> 
> I can't use the nouveau driver because the nouveau driver doesn't work
> with interlaced video modes.  I filed a bug report a good while ago.  See
> 
>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=589452
> 
> No response.

You could try to report the bug upstream (and then tag the Debian bug 
accordingly), since this is clearly an upstream issue.

Of course, ideally would be for you to write the support for interlaced 
video modes, maybe with help from other people, but I'm not sure how 
many people are interested in this.

You might even face disinterest in merging in a possible patch as CRTs 
are disappearing and the code would eventually bitrot as well.

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Fwd: Where do I get a list of all the fonts in my system?

[Heddle Weaver]

Did it again.
Getting rid of gmail soon anyway.

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From: Heddle Weaver 
Date: 24 April 2011 18:12
Subject: Re: Where do I get a list of all the fonts in my system?
To: John Jason Jordan 




On 24 April 2011 16:09, John Jason Jordan  wrote:

> Just in case you are not averse to using a GUI, Fontmatrix is an
> excellent tool. It should be in your repos.
>

So should 'defoma'.
Regards,

Weaver.
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Re: How to debug microphone?

[Volkan YAZICI]

On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 09:40:49 +0200, Felix Natter writes:
> I'd like to use my microphone, but when I use gnome-sound-recorder, and
> - select "Record from input: Front Mic" it doesn't record anything.
> - select "Record from input: Line In" and attach a headset to the 3.5mm
>   mic input (Laptop) it doesn't record anything.
>
> Audio play works fine in all applications.
>
> I am running Debian Lenny. How can I debug this?

The steps I would recommend are as follows.

1) Make sure with alsamixer that mics are not muted.

2) Start arecord with vumeter enabled, that is,

 arecord -V /tmp/foo.wav

   and see if vumeter changes.

3) On failure, go to (1).


Best.


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RE: Tripwire can't send report by email‏‏

[Cedric DC]

I don't find how to change this "" by a FQDN the 

If I try to launch hostname -v, I have the FQDN of my server.
root@proxytest:/etc/tripwire# hostname -f
proxytest.subdomain.mydomain.com

Can I specify the "From address" in twcfg.txt ?
root@proxytest:/etc/tripwire# hostname -f
proxytest.intra.ville-issy.fr

Here my twcfg.txt file

root@proxytest:/etc/tripwire# more twcfg.txt
ROOT  =/usr/sbin
POLFILE   =/etc/tripwire/tw.pol
DBFILE=/var/lib/tripwire/$(HOSTNAME).twd
REPORTFILE=/var/lib/tripwire/report/$(HOSTNAME)-$(DATE).twr
SITEKEYFILE   =/etc/tripwire/site.key
LOCALKEYFILE  =/etc/tripwire/$(HOSTNAME)-local.key
EDITOR=/usr/bin/editor
LATEPROMPTING =false
LOOSEDIRECTORYCHECKING =false
MAILNOVIOLATIONS =true
EMAILREPORTLEVEL =3
REPORTLEVEL   =3
SYSLOGREPORTING =true
MAILMETHOD=SMTP
SMTPHOST  =localhost
#SMTPHOST  =smtp.altitudetelecom.fr
SMTPPORT  =25

Thank you



From: onea...@hotmail.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Tripwire can't send report by email‏‏
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 07:28:42 +








Hello,

I repost my question because I don't have posted it in the right way. I'm 
sorry, it's my first post in the Debian mailing list.

I have setup tripwire on a Debian 6. I have tripwire integrity reports (pwr 
files) in the directory /var/lib/tripwire/report/
With the following command I can read the report.
twprint --print-report --twrfile proxytest-20110421-135326.twr > test-log

I would like send the report by email.

In the file /etc/cron.daily/tripwire
there is the command tripwire --check --quiet --email-report

If I try to launch this in command line I have this message :
root@proxytest:/etc/cron.daily# /usr/sbin/tripwire --test --email 
t...@mydomain.com
Sending a test message to: t...@mydomain.com
### Error: The SMTP server returned an error.
### Error Number:504 5.5.2 : Sender address rejected: need
### fully-qualified address
### Exiting...
Email test failed.

proxytest
  is the hostname of my server

Do you have an idea to solve this issue ?
I
 tried to change in the twcfg the variable SMTPHOST by 
smtp.altitudetelecom.fr (my ISP SMTP relay) instead of localhost. But it
 doesn't work...

Thank you in advance for your help.

Cedric

How to debug microphone?

[Felix Natter]

hi,

I'd like to use my microphone, but when I use gnome-sound-recorder, and
- select "Record from input: Front Mic" it doesn't record anything.
- select "Record from input: Line In" and attach a headset to the 3.5mm
  mic input (Laptop) it doesn't record anything.

Audio play works fine in all applications.

I am running Debian Lenny. How can I debug this?

Thanks!
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Tripwire can't send report by email‏‏

[Cedric DC]

Hello,

I repost my question because I don't have posted it in the right way. I'm 
sorry, it's my first post in the Debian mailing list.

I have setup tripwire on a Debian 6. I have tripwire integrity reports (pwr 
files) in the directory /var/lib/tripwire/report/
With the following command I can read the report.
twprint --print-report --twrfile proxytest-20110421-135326.twr > test-log

I would like send the report by email.

In the file /etc/cron.daily/tripwire
there is the command tripwire --check --quiet --email-report

If I try to launch this in command line I have this message :
root@proxytest:/etc/cron.daily# /usr/sbin/tripwire --test --email 
t...@mydomain.com
Sending a test message to: t...@mydomain.com
### Error: The SMTP server returned an error.
### Error Number:504 5.5.2 : Sender address rejected: need
### fully-qualified address
### Exiting...
Email test failed.

proxytest is the hostname of my server

Do you have an idea to solve this issue ?
I
 tried to change in the twcfg the variable SMTPHOST by 
smtp.altitudetelecom.fr (my ISP SMTP relay) instead of localhost. But it
 doesn't work...

Thank you in advance for your help.

Cedric
  
  

Re: SSD drive use [was Re: file systems]

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sb, 23 apr 11, 11:21:21, Brian Flaherty wrote:
> 
> I assume this "read many, write few" idea applies to all SSD drives.
> There seems to be differing recommendations about the extent to
> worry about configuring SSD drives and I'm wondering what people
> here think and do.
> 
> Some links I've found with differing opinions:
> 
> http://robert.penz.name/137/no-swap-partition-journaling-filesystem-on-a-ssd/
> 
> http://opentechnow.blogspot.com/2010/02/linux-ssd-optimization-guide.html
> 
> The first is from 2008, whereas the second is 2010. Are the 2008
> thoughts out-of-date, and therefore go with the latter?
> 
> I'm running ext3 with an SSD drive in a laptop (Debian Squeeze) with
> LVM and disk-encryption. Already added noatime to fstab, but haven't
> made other changes because I'm not sure how to balance the risks vs.
> gains.
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts and your time.

There is an article by Theodore Ts'o (ext4 developer) regarding the 
impact of the journal in the total writes. As far as I recall it's 
minimal. You should be able to find the article on his blog.

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