Re: [Debian 6] Unable to install Debian 6.0.1 - no supporting mirrors found
On Saturday 11 June 2011 07:33:19 Bret Busby wrote: [snip]> > I have just switched back to the computer onto which the Debian 6.01 > amd64 version is to be installed (I have to disconnect the monitor from > this computer, and connect it to the other computer, as the monitor that > I had connected to it, appears temperamental, and the monitors are now > apparently irreplaceable, with all new monitors now being the bodgy > widescreen things), http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/dirresults.html?s=monitor%204:3&f=monitore%204:3 As you see, a large number of 4:3 monitors is still available in the U.K.. Surely at least one of them is available in Australia?? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106110757.17652.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Debian Questions on apt-get
On Saturday 11 June 2011 00:41:10 Rob Owens wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for apt > > to list all the available packages for a system, rather than directly > > parsing /var/lib/dpkg/available, but this is not it. > > Does this do what you want? > > aptitude search '!~i' This gave me a list of packages that I do not have installed. Surely "!" equals "not"? aptitude search '~i' , on the other hand, gave me a long list of things that I have got installed. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106110743.43850.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Subscription
On 11 June 2011 13:13, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:50:28 -0400 (EDT), "Morning Star" wrote: > > > > i want to join this mailing lists because i have a question about debian. > > See http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ for instructions on how to > subscribe. > Yes, join the list if you have a substantial number of questions to ask, or you intend running Debian, or for any other instance of longer term use. But for one question, simply ask. This is why it's an open list. If nobody replies directly, the answer will be in the archive which is also readily publicly available. Regards, Weaver. -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Lucius Annæus Seneca. Terrorism, the new religion.
Re: [Debian 6] Unable to install Debian 6.0.1 - no supporting mirrors found
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Scott Ferguson wrote: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 19:04:36 +1000 From: Scott Ferguson To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: [Debian 6] Unable to install Debian 6.0.1 - no supporting mirrors found Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:05:13 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org On 10/06/11 15:37, Bret Busby wrote: Hello. I have been trying to install Debian 6.0.1 amd64 version, with a firmware netinst iso (from http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ ), and, at the package manager setup stage, every mirror that I have tried within Australia, and a couple in the USA, return the error "mirror does not support version (squeeze)". Please advise. Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. I can confirm that my local optus, netspeed, transact mirrors, and the monash uni mirror are all up (amd64). I suspect the installer might be asking for something weird.. did you choose http or ftp? If you still have access to the install at that point:- When you open a vt (F3) what is the installer asking the repositories for? (from memory F7 will take you back to the installation screen). Cheers -- We don't make mistakes. :) Hello. I have just switched back to the computer onto which the Debian 6.01 amd64 version is to be installed (I have to disconnect the monitor from this computer, and connect it to the other computer, as the monitor that I had connected to it, appears temperamental, and the monitors are now apparently irreplaceable, with all new monitors now being the bodgy widescreen things), and written down the content of the last text screen displayed, which I found at (It is to return to the GUI installation screen), and, rather than typing all of the content of the screen, I think (but, with my little amount of knowledge, am not sure) that, as suggested, the problem may lay in the URL format for the repositories. for example, for AARNet, the line from the screen (without the date/timestamp at the start of the line), is choose-mirror[6418]: DEBUG: command: wget -q http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian//dists/squeeze/Release - O - | grep -E '^(Suite|Codename:' and for UWA, is choose-mirror[6608]: DEBUG: command: wget -q http:ftp.uwa.edu.au/debian//dists/squeeze/Release -O - | grep -E '^(Suite|Codename):' Now, as I have said, I am of little knowledge in Linux and Debian, but, to me, the double slash between "debian" and "dists", in the URL's, makes me wonder whether that might be the source of the problem. I have tried to transcribe the contents of the screen, as accurately as possible, (as I said, apart from the date/timestamp at the start of each line). If what I have suggested, is not the source of the problem, I could type in the whole of the content of the last screen of text that is displayed, but I thought that, if I am correct in my proposition, then there is no point in typing in the remainder of the content. I note that the content of the screen, does not include any error message to the effect "Network is unreachable", so indicating, in the absence of such a message, that the network connection appears to be functioning properly. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.1.10.1106111412530.31...@bretnewworkstation.busby.net
Re: generating graphs
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 03:31:03 +0200, Maros Zilka writes: > I want to generate a graphs of CPU usage, temperatures etc ... and then > put them on the web page. Can you recommend me some good program for > this ? I know i can use Google or search packages but i want to know > your opinion what is the best. There are Cacti and Munin as well. I prefer Munin for its simplicity and it is relatively easy to add custom measurements to it. BTW, both of them use rrdtool in the background for the plots and publish the graphs on a web page, this might come handy for you. Best. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87wrgt9e4l@alamut.ozu.edu.tr
Re: How to install with encrypted root?
> This is weird, when I last tried I didn't experience any problem and all > required packages were installed. Which install mode did you use, from > what media (if you have the download url that would be even better) ? I used jigdo-lite to expand the .jigdo file found on the official page, http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#which -> CD i386 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.1a/i386/jigdo-cd/debian-6.0.1a-i386-CD-1.jigdo (which has md5sum c29fb09ac0db3c23a95cb236f5adde78 debian-6.0.1a-i386-CD-1.jigdo) it yielded this sha256sum: 8ffbbe6cea9598fe1b964c7d7ff8e7a76871fbc69a439919ade7fbb7b7397f00 debian-6.0.1a-i386-CD-1.iso then I used unetbootin (either 471-2 (stable) or 549-1 (testing), don't remember which) to write it to a USB flash stick, from which I booted my Acer Aspire One D255E netbook. I used the default boot entry, then the manual partitioner. (You can find more details about how I ran the installer on the bug report I linked at the top of this thread.) > No that I know of, and I wouldn't use luks if it was caching the > pass-phrase leaving it accessible for "reuse". I think that would defeat > the purpose. (Well, in an attempt to cut down on the number of passwords that I'm having to deal with, I installed this machine with the luks passphrases == root password. My purpose is to prevent data exposure after theft of the netbook, and I don't care about the risk of recovery from RAM sticks being frozen with liquid nitrogene. Then, assuming that the cache is properly written (only accessible by root), the only risk I see is that a local hijacker that got root access for a short time or with a limited bandwidth connection could just read the passphrase, and then after stealing the laptop decrypt the whole disk at leisure, instead of being limited by the amount of decrypted data he could manage to copy (without discovery) without physical stealing. Fair enough, but I'm currently more worried about my limited brain memory for storing secure passphrases.) > You can use decrypt_derived or random key for the swap > partition for instance, I'm doing that on two other machines, but IIRC this isn't compatible with s2disk, which I might want to use on the netbook. > Or store the key on a different media > plugged-in at boot time Yeah, I'm still sometimes thinking about such solutions, also for normal login; but USB port connectors would be worn out rather quickly I guess, and still less convenient than typing a password. Wondering about bluetooth. I guess near field communication would more appropriate. (I stopped using my fingerprint reader because it wasn't working reliably enough. And I know it's not secure anyway.) Christian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktikzvzih_mdih_xyuusdwxffkku...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Subscription
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:50:28 -0400 (EDT), "Morning Star" wrote: > > i want to join this mailing lists because i have a question about debian. See http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ for instructions on how to subscribe. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/405175363.112086.1307762027844.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: open source time/expense tracking package?
- Original Message - From: "Miles Fidelman" To: "debian-user" Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:10:03 PM Subject: open source time/expense tracking package? Hi Folks, I've been looking high and low for a simple time & expense tracking package that I can run on my (Debian) server, to support a small project team. Can't seem to find anything but commercial web services (e.g., clicktime). I haven't look at them closely. There is some capability for this in dotProject (www.dotproject.net). Last I looked (several years ago), there are a number of them on Sourceforge but most are oriented toward software development. Hope this helps - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5e7801bb-9a00-4429-8cc5-015e4b0f8b9a@jaseee
Re: open source time/expense tracking package?
On 11 June 2011 07:14, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Sudev Barar wrote: >> >> On 11 June 2011 06:40, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> >>> I've been looking high and low for a simple time& expense tracking >>> package >>> that I can run on my (Debian) server, to support a small project team. >>> Can't seem to find anything but commercial web services (e.g., >>> clicktime). >>> >>> So... Figured I'd ask and see if anyone here has found such a beast - >>> packaged for Debian, obviously. >> >> silaj - web based on LAMP Sorry for typo it is sillaj Look at http://sillaj.sourceforge.net/ > > Thanks, but are you sure that's the proper spelling? I can't seem to find > it either in the Debian repository or via google. > Being a LAMP stack package it may not be in repos. -- Regards, Sudev Barar Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. PS: Replying using bottom post/in-line post makes email conversations whole lot easier for meaningful dialogue. Snip out what is not relevant. Adopt this and spread the message. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktin5eazz8afygebk72x5ue241ct...@mail.gmail.com
Re: generating graphs
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 22:01, William Hopkins wrote: > On 06/11/11 at 03:31am, Maros Zilka wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I want to generate a graphs of CPU usage, temperatures etc ... and then >> put them on the web page. Can you recommend me some good program for >> this ? I know i can use Google or search packages but i want to know >> your opinion what is the best. > > Certainly. Look into kSar. > Or nagios+rrdtool (for a whole environment). > Or gnuplot if you want to set up your own tool/you have specific needs. > it could be done pretty easy with perl Spreadsheet::WriteExcel and something like Sys::Load. but i suspect ksar is better. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=vtt6cw-ry-w5wi43lqdva8_f...@mail.gmail.com
Re: how to get to runlevel 3
On 06/10/11 at 10:14pm, William Hopkins wrote:
> On 06/10/11 at 07:42am, Mark Panen wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Been googling for this with no success. I have tried init 3 and teinit
> > 3 and the runlevel command shows i am at runlevel 3 but X is still on
> > and i cannot install a Nvidia driver.
>
> telinit 3 should work for you, what does `who -r` show?
> Why do you want runlevel 3? Debian typically only uses runlevel 2 for normal
> operation. Changing to 3 shouldn't have any effect whatsoever.
>
> If you want to turn off X, type ctrl-alt-f1 to get to tty1. Then run
> /etc/init.d/{your-display-manager} stop. Your display manager is probably
> gdm,
> but could be xdm, kdm, slim... look for the presence of one of these scripts.
>
> X will then be stopped and you can run the nvidia installer. Are you following
> the recommended method of installing the nvidia driver? Here is the wiki on
> that in case you don't have it:
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
>
This is what I get for replying *before* syncing mail to check for previous
responses..
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Re: how to get to runlevel 3
On 06/10/11 at 07:42am, Mark Panen wrote:
> Hi
>
> Been googling for this with no success. I have tried init 3 and teinit
> 3 and the runlevel command shows i am at runlevel 3 but X is still on
> and i cannot install a Nvidia driver.
telinit 3 should work for you, what does `who -r` show?
Why do you want runlevel 3? Debian typically only uses runlevel 2 for normal
operation. Changing to 3 shouldn't have any effect whatsoever.
If you want to turn off X, type ctrl-alt-f1 to get to tty1. Then run
/etc/init.d/{your-display-manager} stop. Your display manager is probably gdm,
but could be xdm, kdm, slim... look for the presence of one of these scripts.
X will then be stopped and you can run the nvidia installer. Are you following
the recommended method of installing the nvidia driver? Here is the wiki on
that in case you don't have it:
http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
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Re: generating graphs
On 06/11/11 at 03:31am, Maros Zilka wrote: > Hi, > > I want to generate a graphs of CPU usage, temperatures etc ... and then > put them on the web page. Can you recommend me some good program for > this ? I know i can use Google or search packages but i want to know > your opinion what is the best. Certainly. Look into kSar. Or nagios+rrdtool (for a whole environment). Or gnuplot if you want to set up your own tool/you have specific needs. -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: open source time/expense tracking package?
Sudev Barar wrote: On 11 June 2011 06:40, Miles Fidelman wrote: I've been looking high and low for a simple time& expense tracking package that I can run on my (Debian) server, to support a small project team. Can't seem to find anything but commercial web services (e.g., clicktime). So... Figured I'd ask and see if anyone here has found such a beast - packaged for Debian, obviously. silaj - web based on LAMP Thanks, but are you sure that's the proper spelling? I can't seem to find it either in the Debian repository or via google. Miles -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df2c86f.8010...@meetinghouse.net
generating graphs
Hi, I want to generate a graphs of CPU usage, temperatures etc ... and then put them on the web page. Can you recommend me some good program for this ? I know i can use Google or search packages but i want to know your opinion what is the best. Thank you, Maros. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307755863.23550.8.ca...@lorien.mrx
Re: open source time/expense tracking package?
On 11 June 2011 06:40, Miles Fidelman wrote: > I've been looking high and low for a simple time & expense tracking package > that I can run on my (Debian) server, to support a small project team. > Can't seem to find anything but commercial web services (e.g., clicktime). > > So... Figured I'd ask and see if anyone here has found such a beast - > packaged for Debian, obviously. silaj - web based on LAMP I have done some modifications to the basic package to incorporate time sheet approval by supervisor but silaj team did not respond to request for incorporating this upstream. I can send the code if needed. -- Regards, Sudev Barar Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. PS: Replying using bottom post/in-line post makes email conversations whole lot easier for meaningful dialogue. Snip out what is not relevant. Adopt this and spread the message. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTimYadntl2mbnct0dkezxwk9...@mail.gmail.com
open source time/expense tracking package?
Hi Folks, I've been looking high and low for a simple time & expense tracking package that I can run on my (Debian) server, to support a small project team. Can't seem to find anything but commercial web services (e.g., clicktime). So... Figured I'd ask and see if anyone here has found such a beast - packaged for Debian, obviously. Thanks much, Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df2c06b.6020...@meetinghouse.net
Re: x-terminal-emulator does not appear to accept comand line args
On 06/09/11 at 05:31pm, Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:46:54 +0100, Dom wrote: > > I think that as the wrapper is translating x-terminal options to > > gnome-terminal equivalents, it shouldn't pass through "-h" or "--help", > > but should display a basic usage page for the options that *it* accepts. > > > > Therefore I consider this to be a bug (albeit minor in nature). I just > > use the native gnome-terminal options anyway. > > I don't know why but something tells me that there must be a good reason > for the wrapper behaving in that way, differently than the full binary. Of course. gnome-terminal.wrapper is created solely for x-terminal-emulator use by gnome-core/gnome-terminal maintainer Christian Marillat, and it tries to present a set of options more like xterm, since x-terminal-emulator has decided on xterm-style options. Emulating a single set of options where conflicts occur is a policy decision, IIRC. -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian Questions on apt-get
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for apt > to list all the available packages for a system, rather than directly > parsing /var/lib/dpkg/available, but this is not it. > Does this do what you want? aptitude search '!~i' -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110610234110.ga10...@aurora.owens.net
Re: hard drive configuration
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 09:23:08AM -0700, prad wrote: > in the past we've had two partitions: > / > /data > into the latter went home, www, mail and we'd softlink from the > appropriate places. the nice thing about this setup has always been that > when we upgraded or tried a different system there wasn't any data > copying to do. > > now we've been experimenting with xfs on which there will be openvs > containers to run the web/mail servers. containers go into /var/lib/vz > and we're thinking of keeping them in a separate partition > too. additionally, we've split things up so there are partitions for > /usr /usr/local /tmp /home and so on. > > so i'm musing over whether to have a /data partition as before - it > doesn't seem to make quite the same sense at this stage. however, when > it comes time to change to the next debian, i keep thinking having the > data separate may be an advantage. > > do people have favorite partitioning schemes with appropriate > justifications for them? > I take it to the extreme. /home includes a lot of potentially obsolete or wrong configs during a move to a new system. And there can still be important configs and tweaks in /etc and /usr. And I have lot so data in srv. So I break it up into 7 or 8 partitions. Extra advantages: 1. easily staggered backups according to priorities 2. quick disk checks at boot. Each partition is set to a disk check interval with a unique prime number so partition checks rarely overlap. The disadvantage is wasted space, since each partition has some expansion room that equals lost contiguous bulk space. (Reading up on LVM's is on my todo list.) These are about to burst because I am downloading big files. sda1, 2 & 4 are primaries. 3 is the extended. FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5 3.3G 2.6G 475M 85% / tmpfs 505M 0 505M 0% /lib/init/rw udev 504M 228K 504M 1% /dev tmpfs 505M 0 505M 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda2 77M 46M 27M 64% /boot /dev/sda6 2.9G 2.7G 118M 96% /usr /dev/sda7 4.1G 3.3G 625M 85% /usr/share /dev/sda8 9.2G 7.8G 900M 90% /home /dev/sda112.2G 1.7G 363M 83% /var /dev/sda124.9G 2.8G 1.9G 60% /srv /dev/sda101.6G 104K 1.5G 1% /tmp /dev/sda4 65G 65G 253M 100% /mnt/Library /dev/sda1 18G 17G 400M 98% /mnt/XP -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110610232832.GA5532@Europa.office
Re: hard drive configuration
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 00:54 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 10 iun 11, 21:11:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > The advantage to have / only, including /home is, that you don't need > > think that much about allocation of free space. You anyway can do > > separated backups. And having tons of individual mounted directories > > won't speed up anything or won't have any other advantage. It might be > > different for servers or what ever, but for a single user? > > It's very convenient for new/re-installs, or if you want to share /home > (i.e. between a sid and a stable install) ;) For a reinstall it's also ok to backup home and restore it later, but ok, for usage with two different installs this is an advantage, OTOH it contains a risk. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307745380.13487.390.camel@debian
Re: hard drive configuration
On Vi, 10 iun 11, 21:11:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > The advantage to have / only, including /home is, that you don't need > think that much about allocation of free space. You anyway can do > separated backups. And having tons of individual mounted directories > won't speed up anything or won't have any other advantage. It might be > different for servers or what ever, but for a single user? It's very convenient for new/re-installs, or if you want to share /home (i.e. between a sid and a stable install) ;) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: icedove/yahoo imap: messages marked as read & filters not run on inbox
To clarify, I was talking about my experiences with multiple other imap accounts. I do have a yahoo account that I don't really use, but it is pop3. PaulNM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df28557.6000...@paulscrap.com
Re: icedove/yahoo imap: messages marked as read & filters not run on inbox
On 06/10/2011 04:13 PM, Nicolas Bercher wrote: > Hi, > snip > > 1. Near every messages that arrive into inbox and are marked as read, > but not all of them. This seems to be an imap side-problem: my account > was freshly set up and I never saw this before with account from other > imap providers (and of course I've check icedove config many times). > Are you sure nothing else is reading the messages? I don't have yahoo imap, but I know that if I read the messages on my phone, they'll show up as read the next time I check in Thunderbird. > 2. Mail filters I defined (on the icedove side) doesn't work > automatically (again, I've check configuration many times) and I have to > run "alt-t r" to manually apply the filters on inbox. > Solving number 1 will solve this. Thunderbird (and Icedove) only automatically apply filters to new messages. Any messages I read through my phone and/or webmail will not be filtered automatically. I need to run filters to do that. snip > Thank a lot, > > Nicolas > Thanks for the filter shortcut, I've been meaning to look that up. PaulNM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df284b4.1020...@paulscrap.com
Re: How to install with encrypted root?
>10/06/2011 17:54, Christian Jaeger wrote: > Thanks for your reply. I got it to work now. > >> 2011/6/10 tv.deb...@googlemail.com : [...] > >> Maybe cp the /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot hook script to >> /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks/, this shouldn't be necessary though. > > My system didn't have the /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot > file; while trying to figure out why, I realized that the "cryptsetup" > package wasn't installed! After installing it, update-initramfs now > creates an initrd that *does* contain cryptsetup. > > I expected that the installer would install cryptsetup automatically > (at least) if the user creates encrypted partitions using its > partitioner. I would say this is a bug of the installer; anyone > disagreeing? > [...] > > So I'm looking forward to report a bug against the installer (actually > several, since it didn't install busybox either). This is weird, when I last tried I didn't experience any problem and all required packages were installed. Which install mode did you use, from what media (if you have the download url that would be even better) ? > BTW is there a way to make the boot process cache the pass phrase, so > that when I'm using the same for several partitions it would only ask > once? No that I know of, and I wouldn't use luks if it was caching the pass-phrase leaving it accessible for "reuse". I think that would defeat the purpose. You can use decrypt_derived or random key for the swap partition for instance, and use pam-mount for the others, it will save you some typing at the cost of having the same password for account login and luks decryption. Or store the key on a different media plugged-in at boot time, or on the first decrypted partition (insecure). It's all a matter of compromise between security and comfort/usability. > > Christian. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df28329.7030...@googlemail.com
Re: Brightness control is dead after install Nvidia Drivers
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 21:11 +0100, Pedro Rodrigues wrote: > Hey, > > I've just installed the Nvidia drivers on my Debian, however, after i > do it, the laptop brightness control doesn't work anymore... > > When i press the keys, i see the brightness bar, however, the > brightness stays at maximum. > > I've used the following commands to install the drivers. > > apt-get update > apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source > m-a a-i nvidia-kernel-source > apt-get install nvidia-glx > apt-get install nvidia-xconfig > nvidia-xconfig > apt-get install nvidia-settings > > The Laptop is a Sony Vaio VGN-FE21B with a Nvidia Geforce 7400 > > Can you help me? > > thx in advance. I used current proprietary Nvidia driver with Ubuntu, on Debian I'm using the FLOSS nv driver. After startup the menu of my CTR monitor didn't work. When I turned the monitor off and on again, the monitor's menu and settings could be used. I don't know if it's possible to do something similar as turning off/on a monitor, for a display for the laptop, but it seems to be the same issue, the proprietary driver seems to disable something. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307738882.13487.346.camel@debian
Brightness control is dead after install Nvidia Drivers
Hey, I've just installed the Nvidia drivers on my Debian, however, after i do it, the laptop brightness control doesn't work anymore... When i press the keys, i see the brightness bar, however, the brightness stays at maximum. I've used the following commands to install the drivers. apt-get update apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source m-a a-i nvidia-kernel-source apt-get install nvidia-glx apt-get install nvidia-xconfig nvidia-xconfig apt-get install nvidia-settings The Laptop is a Sony Vaio VGN-FE21B with a Nvidia Geforce 7400 Can you help me? thx in advance.
icedove/yahoo imap: messages marked as read & filters not run on inbox
Hi, I recently set up my yahoo.fr account (this one) as an *imap* mailbox under thunderbird. I've waited a long time for this to happen and with the success of smart phones, it seems that yahoo enabled an imap server, but didn't communicate that much for regular users (the one who got their accounts without smart phones). However, I have two issues that might concern many people here that uses icedove and have yahoo mailboxes: 1. Near every messages that arrive into inbox and are marked as read, but not all of them. This seems to be an imap side-problem: my account was freshly set up and I never saw this before with account from other imap providers (and of course I've check icedove config many times). 2. Mail filters I defined (on the icedove side) doesn't work automatically (again, I've check configuration many times) and I have to run "alt-t r" to manually apply the filters on inbox. So, do you (smart people) see anything special here, have experience with yahoo imap and so on? Thank a lot, Nicolas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df27ae0.2030...@yahoo.fr
Re: PS/2 mouse vs USB mouse
On Mi, 08 iun 11, 10:06:36, Lisi wrote: > > I did say "YMMV" As I say, I personally find the traction inadequate with > optical mice. I can easily deduce that most people like them! Maybe it's just because of more dust here, but I have to clean the "sliders" all the time on my mice. OTOH I don't like it if they don't slide easily, but I don't use pads anywhere, just the desktop surface. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Configuring Iceweasel security policies.
From: peasth...@shaw.ca Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:24:32 -0800 > Appears that the instructions for the Mozilla security policies are for the > case > where both the file URI link comes from the same machine as the browser runs > on. That was garbled. This might make more sense. Are the instructions for the Mozilla security policies for the case where the page containing the file URI link and the page targeted are on the same machine? Any better ideas to configure for my case where the file URI link is in members.shaw.ca/peasthope and the target page and browser are on dalton? Thanks,... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171057034.51641.43928@cantor.invalid
Re: gnome sensors applet: which is which ?
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:46 +, Camaleón wrote: > > which is which ? CPU ? Motherboard ? > > Most probably the CPU, as Brian pointed out (there should be an icon > identifiying the item) both icons are identical !!! > but 74°C and 95°C -being Celsius- are a bit high > values for whatever they meassure (even for a laptop). From what source > (s) does "sensors-applet" gather the data? I don't know. but the following should help... I hope it does :) root@wheejy:/# sensors-detect No i2c device files found. root@wheejy:/# sensors acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1:+57.5°C (crit = +126.0°C) nouveau-pci-0100 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1:+79.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +110.0°C) I can add that these 2 values (79 and 57) are actually the ones displayed by the applet. both the "sensors" and "sensors-detect" programs are part of the "lm-sensors" package. Can you guys make some sense out of these informations ? :) thx Joao > It may need some tweaking. > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307733694.2760.6.ca...@wheejy.critical.pt
Re: gnome sensors applet: which is which ?
On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:46 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:34:37 +0100, Joao Ferreira Gmail wrote: > > > I'm using gnome sensors applet to keep an eye on computer temperature. > > > > The applet configuration lets me choose: > > > > - libsensors > > \temp1 > > \temp1 > > > > I also have udisk (for hard disk temperature). > > > > These 2 libsensors/temp1 produce different values (about 20 degrees > > Celsius appart form each other; p.ex: 74 and 95). Can anyone tell me > > which is which ? CPU ? Motherboard ? > > Most probably the CPU, as Brian pointed out (there should be an icon > identifiying the item) both icons are identical !!! > but 74°C and 95°C -being Celsius- are a bit high > values for whatever they meassure (even for a laptop). From what source > (s) does "sensors-applet" gather the data? I don't know. but the following should help (I hoper it does): root@wheejy:/# sensors-detect No i2c device files found. root@wheejy:/# sensors acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual device temp1:+57.5°C (crit = +126.0°C) nouveau-pci-0100 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1:+79.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +110.0°C) I can add that these 2 values (79 and 57) are actually the ones displayed by the applet. both the "sensors" and "sensors-detect" programs are part of the "lm-sensors" package. Can you guys make some sense out of these informations ? :) thx Joao > It may need some tweaking. > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307733475.2760.4.ca...@wheejy.critical.pt
Configuring Iceweasel security policies.
After reading http://kb.mozillazine.org/Security_Policies
add these four lines to dalton:/etc/iceweasel/pref/iceweasel.js .
// Allow my file URI to be opened.
user_pref("capability.policy.policynames", "localfilelinks");
user_pref("capability.policy.localfilelinks.checkloaduri.enabled", "allAccess");
user_pref("capability.policy.localfilelinks.sites",
"http://pe...@members.shaw.ca:80";);
# From: Scott Ferguson
# Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:31:08 +1000
> Soft links'll work fine.
OK, dalton:/Category2.html is now a soft link to /home/peter/Category2.html.
At dalton open
http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/#Links
and click on the link file:///Category2.html .
This message comes to the Iceweasel error console.
Security Error: Content at http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/#Links may not load
or link to file:///Category2.html.
Appears that the instructions for the Mozilla security policies are for the
case
where both the file URI link comes from the same machine as the browser runs on.
Any better ideas to configure for my case where the file URI link is in
members.shaw.ca/peasthope and the browser is on dalton?
Thanks,... Peter E.
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Re: hard drive configuration
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 21:49 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > for single user or > > / > /home > /media/big -> /home/$user1/big > /media/big -> /home/$user2/big For a single user I switched from / + /home to / only. For special tasks I add e.g. /music_productions to /mnt or /home. The advantage to have / only, including /home is, that you don't need think that much about allocation of free space. You anyway can do separated backups. And having tons of individual mounted directories won't speed up anything or won't have any other advantage. It might be different for servers or what ever, but for a single user? 2 cents -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307733109.13487.310.camel@debian
Re: Debian Questions on apt-get
On 11/06/11 04:44, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 10 iun 11, 23:55:58, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> Asking me about the merits of aptitude is liking asking a emac fanboi >> about the merits of vi :-) > > I don't think this is a fair comparison, but rather vi vs. vim ;) It wasn't meant to be :-) I am completely ignorant of aptitude so I figured, in deference to those that aren't, I'd solicit their imput (hell, I might even learn something). Thanks. > aptitude can do almost everything apt-get/apt-cache can do, but: > > + has very powerful search patterns > + has an interactive mode (text or GUI), which I find very useful > especially for complicated upgrades (not rare with Debian unstable), but > also for other tasks > - the search is slower > - sometimes the first suggested course of action is sub-optimal, more > often in interactive mode > - aptitude has a few annoying bugs (like loosing 'automatically > installed' or 'hold' state in some cases) > > I like combining them to get the best of both. This was not recommended > a few releases ago, but currently the only issue I know of is that they > store information on held packages differently. All other databases > (available packages, automatically installed, ...) are shared. > > Regards, > Andrei Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df26a6d.1030...@gmail.com
Re: hard drive configuration
On Lu, 06 iun 11, 09:23:08, prad wrote: > in the past we've had two partitions: > / > /data > into the latter went home, www, mail and we'd softlink from the > appropriate places. the nice thing about this setup has always been that > when we upgraded or tried a different system there wasn't any data > copying to do. I like an approach closer to the FHS: / /home /home/$user/big for single user or / /home /media/big -> /home/$user1/big /media/big -> /home/$user2/big for more users with shared data. /home is big enough to hold all user configs and documents, while big is for big files :p like photos, music, movies, etc. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Iceape's inability to render sites
On 2011-06-09, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 04:43:42PM -0400, Michael Checca wrote: >> On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 16:11:48 -0400, Robert Holtzman wrot= > e: >>=20 >> >I'm having trouble with Iceape's inability to render sites that use >> >java correctly. This includes my bank and broker which prevents me >> >from making Squeeze my primary distro. Running "locate jre" turns up >> >a bunch of files including gcj-4.4-jre related ones, so I assume have >> >java runtime installed. The icedtea6-plugin is notinstalled. Could >> >that be the problem? >> > >> > >>=20 >> If I recall correctly, the entire GCJ has been undeveloped for some >> time now. Try installing either Sun/Oracle's Java JRE and plugin or >> OpenJDK's JRE and plugin: >>=20 >> Sun/Oracle: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin >> or >> OpenJDK: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre icedtea6-plugin > > Sudo in Debian? Not unless it's specifically enabled. > > Unfortunately openjdk-6-jre and icedtea6-plugin didn't solve the > problem. Thanks for trying. Anyone else? I find that only the Sun (now Oracle) Java plug-in works consistently well. You will need to install sun-java6-plugin from the non-free repository. -- Liam O'Toole Cork, Ireland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrniv4pou.1o3.liam.p.otoole@dipsy.tubbynet
Re: Debian Questions on apt-get
On Vi, 10 iun 11, 23:55:58, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > Asking me about the merits of aptitude is liking asking a emac fanboi > about the merits of vi :-) I don't think this is a fair comparison, but rather vi vs. vim ;) aptitude can do almost everything apt-get/apt-cache can do, but: + has very powerful search patterns + has an interactive mode (text or GUI), which I find very useful especially for complicated upgrades (not rare with Debian unstable), but also for other tasks - the search is slower - sometimes the first suggested course of action is sub-optimal, more often in interactive mode - aptitude has a few annoying bugs (like loosing 'automatically installed' or 'hold' state in some cases) I like combining them to get the best of both. This was not recommended a few releases ago, but currently the only issue I know of is that they store information on held packages differently. All other databases (available packages, automatically installed, ...) are shared. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Plug in with FIREFOX
On 06/10/2011 12:47 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:17:40AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 15:12 -0400, Michael Checca wrote: Squeeze autoinstalls gnash which seems to work perfectly. Is there a reason to install flashplugin-nonfree and icedtea6-plugin? What am I missing? Can you watch this video with gnash? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwZLFTW4OGY&feature=related I wanted to show somebody this video about dyslexia and needed to install flashplugin-nonfree, because gnash from testing wasn't able to play it. Couldn't get it to run but I always have trouble with u-tube videos with Ubuntu running flashplugin-nonfree. flashplugin-installer is *the* way to go if you tolerate non-free. Currently, Maverick is at v10.3.181.22ubuntu0.10.10.1. -- "Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt." Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df2640d.70...@cox.net
Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop
On Sat 11 Jun 2011 at 02:46:04 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > Re-inserted text (referring to an active cable being plugged and unplugged:- What is an 'active' cable? > -- > If you change the static settings to dhcp it should change - provided > network manager is not installed of course. > eg. change static to dhcp and comment out the last five lines > restart the network and ifconfig should aquire an network settings - the > nic will be brought down when the cable is later removed - *but settings > will be retained (lease determined).* > -- If you still believe the network interface is brought down when a cable is unplugged your understanding of the evidence and interfaces(5) is different from mine. >From a previous post: > Remove cable. > >root@dektop3:~# dmesg | tail -n 1 >[ 158.220270] via-rhine :00:12.0: eth0: link down > >root@dektop3:~# ifconfig >eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0c:76:b3:b4:ca > inet addr:192.168.7.30 Bcast:192.168.7.255 > Mask:255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::20c:76ff:feb3:b4ca/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 Could be ifconfig thinks it is 'UP' but is mistaken. > Bringing "up a NIC" is an admittedly poor way of saying "bringing up a > connection" - but it has no bearing on device creation. Which is what > hotplug does - when a device is removable. If it's not removable the > hotplug line has no effect. You'd have to say what you meant by 'device creation' before I began to think about responding to this. > Given that most of my boxen do not have that line I can safely say - > that is demonstrably incorrect. Test it. 'I don't use it so it must be incorrect'. Has the Enlightenment passed you by? > Don't have removable NIC? Then you don't use hotplug. Period. I'm not advocating you use it. Real Strong Authority Time: (Because you may find logical argument harder): > Moreover, there's no _reason_ to remove the allow-hotplug, since if > your interface is in fact not hotpluggable, it's a total no-op to > leave it in. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403706 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110610181216.GX19914@desktop
Re: [OT] Bad characters on e-mail headers (was iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility)
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 03:01:36 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 11/06/11 01:02, � wrote: >> But how about the fourth of the snapshots? It seems to display the name >> just right. > > Yes - but they're the only ones from you this year that do, which is why > I showed them. Hoping the dates might mean something to you. Sure they tell me. After looking into them in my cache I've seen that all those were sent by me using Mutt :-) >> Okay, then we have another clue that may help to solve the mystery. It >> seems the problem presents with "iso-8859-1" but "utf-8" is fine. Now I >> have to see why my posts are enconding with iso in the "From:" field >> instead utf8 :-? > > Nope. It's still my problem. :-( > I'm currently moving my music collection and experiencing a similar > problem. The music is there (see pic) but the dodgy characters mean it's > not seen. Fortunately Amarok has no trouble reading the weird > characters. After years of avoiding learning character encoding and > locales I may have to bite the bullet... Scott, let's see if this works: open Icedove and create a new folder (name it "test" or "damn black diamond", at your wish...). Then copy here (do not move but copy as we don't want to mangle nor lose your e-mails) a bunch of my e-mails that show the bad character. Then right-click over that folder and select "Properties". In the first tab you will find an option for character encoding. If it is set to "utf-8" change it to "iso-8859-1" (or viceversa, if it is set to "iso-8859-1" set it to "utf-8"). Check "[x] Apply the default..." and click "Accept" or "OK". (put drums here) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.10.17.57...@gmail.com
Re: Plug in with FIREFOX
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 10:47 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:17:40AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 15:12 -0400, Michael Checca wrote: > > > > Squeeze autoinstalls gnash which seems to work perfectly. Is there a > > > > reason to install flashplugin-nonfree and icedtea6-plugin? What am I > > > > missing? > > > > Can you watch this video with gnash? > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwZLFTW4OGY&feature=related > > > > I wanted to show somebody this video about dyslexia and needed to > > install flashplugin-nonfree, because gnash from testing wasn't able to > > play it. > > Couldn't get it to run but I always have trouble with u-tube videos with > Ubuntu running flashplugin-nonfree. Sometimes flashplugin-nonfree is outdated, then it could help to get latest from Adobe? Macromedia? or where ever it's from. i'm able to play the video with the flashplugin-nonfree, but gnash doesn't -- Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307728644.13487.281.camel@debian
Re: Plug in with FIREFOX
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 06:23:42PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 10/06/11 05:25, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 03:44:20AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > > > ..snip > >> > >> Guessing that you're new - you'll probably go for a default install > >> which will give you sudo and a Gnome desktop. > > > > And I'm guessing you're an Ubuntu user. Debian doesn't install sudo as > > default. > > Greeting from 2011 ;-p > http://wiki.debian.org/sudo > > > > > >.snip > > > > Now be nice ;-p That wasn't a put down. Please don't take it as such. At the moment I am an Ubuntu user, struggling to make Squeeze my primary distro. > I don't run Gnome, never done a default install either. > I was tacking on to a post where the poster had advised using sudo to > install a package that does not currently install. > I always see the question "do you want to login as root" during setup, I > just don't choose it. > > Note: a default install should also give him gnash too. I believe I said that in another post. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Plug in with FIREFOX
On 10/06/11 01:47 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: Can you watch this video with gnash? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwZLFTW4OGY&feature=related This video works with HTML5 on Iceweasel 4 on "free" squeeze. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df25ab2.7050...@gmail.com
Re: Plug in with FIREFOX
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:17:40AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 15:12 -0400, Michael Checca wrote: > > > Squeeze autoinstalls gnash which seems to work perfectly. Is there a > > > reason to install flashplugin-nonfree and icedtea6-plugin? What am I > > > missing? > > Can you watch this video with gnash? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwZLFTW4OGY&feature=related > > I wanted to show somebody this video about dyslexia and needed to > install flashplugin-nonfree, because gnash from testing wasn't able to > play it. Couldn't get it to run but I always have trouble with u-tube videos with Ubuntu running flashplugin-nonfree. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to install with encrypted root?
See my other reply, it seems pretty clear that there is a bug in the debian installer (assuming that the installer is *meant* to support installing a system with encrypted root and that the result boots). Glad it worked for you; please tell if you can add information to pin the problem down more. Christian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktikfwyf2owtsp_hfesqb2m9bhbo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Bad characters on e-mail headers (was iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility)
On 11/06/11 01:02, � wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:46:12 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> On 10/06/11 20:46, � wrote: > > (...) > > Wow... I look horrible 8:-) Aw, I dunno - looks classier that the symbol used by the artist formerly know as... ;-p > > But how about the fourth of the snapshots? It seems to display the name > just right. Yes - but they're the only ones from you this year that do, which is why I showed them. Hoping the dates might mean something to you. > >>> There has to be another mailing list users with accented characters in >>> their names. Make a quick search on your MUA archive to check if >>> experience the same. I've found some :-) >> >> Visual (not quick) check shows the following (from this years posts) >> that display fine:- > > (...) > > Okay, then we have another clue that may help to solve the mystery. It > seems the problem presents with "iso-8859-1" but "utf-8" is fine. Now I > have to see why my posts are enconding with iso in the "From:" field > instead utf8 :-? Nope. It's still my problem. :-( I'm currently moving my music collection and experiencing a similar problem. The music is there (see pic) but the dodgy characters mean it's not seen. Fortunately Amarok has no trouble reading the weird characters. After years of avoiding learning character encoding and locales I may have to bite the bullet... Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. <>
Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop
On 11/06/11 00:43, Brian wrote: > On Fri 10 Jun 2011 at 23:40:35 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> On 10/06/11 22:20, Brian wrote: >>> >>> Remove cable. >>> >>>root@dektop3:~# dmesg | tail -n 1 >>>[ 158.220270] via-rhine :00:12.0: eth0: link down >>> >> >>> >>> eth0 is not brought down >> >> Yes it is --^ > > 'link down' is a kernel message recognising the disappearence of the > cable connection, not a declaration that eth0 is down. If it were not > active the interface would not appear in the ifconfig output and would > not be available. The routing table still exists. The machine knows > where to send packets but nothing leaves through eth0. > >>> and also retains its IP address. >> >> Not "also". It's a static address. > > An address obtained via dhcp would also be retained because eth0 is > still up. You could have saved yourself some typing with more careful editing of my post. :-) Re-inserted text (referring to an active cable being plugged and unplugged:- -- If you change the static settings to dhcp it should change - provided network manager is not installed of course. eg. change static to dhcp and comment out the last five lines restart the network and ifconfig should aquire an network settings - the nic will be brought down when the cable is later removed - *but settings will be retained (lease determined).* -- Bringing "up a NIC" is an admittedly poor way of saying "bringing up a connection" - but it has no bearing on device creation. Which is what hotplug does - when a device is removable. If it's not removable the hotplug line has no effect. > I assure you allow-hotplug does function during booting. Try it with > dpcp. Now auto and dhcp. See the difference? Given that most of my boxen do not have that line I can safely say - that is demonstrably incorrect. Test it. eg. /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.7.30 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.7.0 broadcast 192.168.7.255 gateway 192.168.7.1 nameserver 8.8.8.8 Will work just fine. Ditto:- eg. /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet dhcp Don't have removable NIC? Then you don't use hotplug. Period. The Debian documentation does *not* say the hotplug line is un-needed - but that is the case. Perhaps some knowledgable person will set me straight on why I'd need the "allow-hotplug/auto-hotplug" (they have the same effect) stanza when I don't have removeable NICs? [quote Jean Tourrilhes] Background on network hotplug : There are basically two types of network interfaces, static (i.e. found at boot-time) and dynamic/removable/hotplug (that may appear/disapear at any time). Up to now, the only dynamic network interfaces were 16 bits Pcmcia network cards, which are managed by 'cardmgr' (included in the Pcmcia package). Cardmgr and ifupdown do interract properly, no problem there. Nowadays, a lot of 32 bits Bardbus network cards and USB network devices are being sold and supported by Linux. Those devices are managed exclusively through the hotplug system. Therefore, proper interoperation of ifupdown and hotplug is required to be able to support those devices. [/quote] Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df24a4c.4060...@gmail.com
Re: How to install with encrypted root?
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 09:25:43AM -0400, Christian Jaeger wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to install squeeze with "/" being a partition dmcrypt'ed > with luks. Is Debian supposed to support that or not? For me the > debian installer failed to do it, so I sent mail to debian-boot about > it [1] and then since I didn't get a reply reported a bug against > initramfs-tools [2], where Maximilian Attems told me to get support > here. > > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/06/msg00068.html > [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=629985 > > So please tell me what I'm doing it wrong, whether it works for you, > or whether that's in fact a result of bug(s) and ideally to which > package(s) it(they) should be reported. It works for me here using d-i. There could be many ways to do this. I tried several before. I now have both root and swap on a LVM partition which is on an encrypted partition with LUKS. (Of course, /boot is unencrypted and also I installed another backup system there as / for rescue.) Your answe can be found in Google: "LVM encrypt root debian squeeze" http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=46874 http://wiki.debian.org/AesXtsEncryptedLvm (OLD and easier method exists but still good to read) These looks good reading. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110610160607.ga8...@debian.org
Re: [Debian 6] Unable to install Debian 6.0.1 - no supporting mirrors found
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:37:17 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > I have been trying to install Debian 6.0.1 amd64 version, with a > firmware netinst iso (from > http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd- including-firmware/ > ), and, at the package manager setup stage, every mirror that I have > tried within Australia, and a couple in the USA, return the error > "mirror does not support version (squeeze)". I would re-check the network settings. You may have missed or put a bad gateway/dns server. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.10.16.05...@gmail.com
Re: How to install with encrypted root?
Thanks for your reply. I got it to work now. 2011/6/10 tv.deb...@googlemail.com : > Hi, I can confirm that it works, my main system is fully on Luks ( To be > precise it is luks on raid1, and /home is decrypted with pam, swap with > decrypt_derived.). (The additional RAID layer might make a difference. I dealt with a similar bug 2 1/2 years ago, where it didn't recurse correctly through the device mapper layers [1]; at that time I actually had a system where encrypted root set up by the installer mostly worked out of the box, too, and I was using LVM, so that might make the difference. But it also was lenny and not squeeze, of course. [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=507721 ) > I can't explain why it doesn't work in your case, you could try to add > the required modules to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, or check in (At the point where I'm running update-initramfs (from within a chroot from the running GRML system), all modules are loaded of course, although from GRML) > /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf that you have MODULES=most and > BUSYBOX=yes. (That's the case.) > Maybe cp the /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot hook script to > /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks/, this shouldn't be necessary though. My system didn't have the /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot file; while trying to figure out why, I realized that the "cryptsetup" package wasn't installed! After installing it, update-initramfs now creates an initrd that *does* contain cryptsetup. I expected that the installer would install cryptsetup automatically (at least) if the user creates encrypted partitions using its partitioner. I would say this is a bug of the installer; anyone disagreeing? > Do you have a /etc/crypttab file, is it accurate ? Yes it's already been there and accurate. > Is the fstab too ? Is correct, too. > Tried reinstalling cryptsetup from the chroot ? Strip the "re" :) So I'm looking forward to report a bug against the installer (actually several, since it didn't install busybox either). BTW is there a way to make the boot process cache the pass phrase, so that when I'm using the same for several partitions it would only ask once? (Yes, I know that using LVM I could put all of those into the same volume group on a single encrypted physical volume, but I'd like to avoid LVM this time in an attempt to avoid potential issues (I'm suspecting LVM to be a part in some unexplained slowness that I'm suffering from on the machine where I'm using it).) Christian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=bdrojaxz7q+merraqfbwwn4n...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Bad characters on e-mail headers (was iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility)
On Jun 10, 2011, at 5:58 AM, Lisi wrote: I presumed it *likely* that you are female, but was uncertain Yes, most of the time on line it is very difficult to be sure. And we have to accept that statistically the majority ... On the internet, nobody knows you're a God... -- Dyslexic Unitarian (-: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/80f1c7c2-fd08-48ed-83a2-b5849...@pobox.com
Re: gdmsetup can't unlock problem: any workaround?
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:26:04 +0200, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > I seem to be facing a bug where gdmsetup can't be unlocked: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=622234 > > Does anyone know of a workaround to turn on/off automatic login without > gdmsetup? I'm often switching, leaving auto-login at home and turning it > off when at work, travel etc. Hum... I already had setup autologin in wheezy so didn't noticed. This is what I have in my "/etc/gdm3/daemon.conf" file: [daemon] # AutomaticLoginEnable = false # AutomaticLogin = TimedLoginEnable=false AutomaticLoginEnable=true TimedLogin=test AutomaticLogin=test TimedLoginDelay=30 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.10.15.27...@gmail.com
Re: unable to enumerate usb device on port 5
* Camale?n [2011-06-10 10:25:46 +]: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:04:00 +0530, Rohit Vaidya wrote: > > > I have just installed Debian Squeeze successfully. On boot up I get the > > following message constantly dumped > > on the console. Whenever I try to access the virtual terminal it gives > > me the same message. > > "Unable to enumerate usb device on port 5" . Even a dmesg shows the same > > message being constantly dumped > > on the terminal. What is the problem and how can we overcome this issue? > > JFYI, there have been similar reports on this list about that error: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/05/msg01769.html > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/01/msg02201.html > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/12/msg00960.html > > And there is also a bug report: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=620848 > > What I don't know is if someone could finally solved the problem :-? I noticed this as well last night when I had to reboot my Debian 6 laptop, I hadn't noticed the error message before but it is dumped *a lot*, I could go find out exactly how many times if necessary... -- > A: Yes. > >Q: Are you sure? > >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. > >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? > http://xkcd.com/84/ > GPG: D5B20C0C (6741 8EE4 6C7D 11FB 8DA8 9E4A EECD 9A84 D5B2 0C0C) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110610152422.ga21...@gmail.com
Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:25:40 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 10 Jun 2011 at 11:25:25 +, Camaleón wrote: > >> Now we have to extract some conclusions which is what I tried to do. > > The premise is false: plugging in a cable does not bring up the > interface with ifconfig. This would make the conclusions suspect. It covers the scenario when the machine is hibernated and then awaked which, by the way, it has been mentioned in the very first post of this thread. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.10.15.08...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Bad characters on e-mail headers (was iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility)
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:46:12 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 10/06/11 20:46, � wrote: (...) >>> I'm not convinced - I don't get the problem with other Pan users, >>> though it could be a combination of Pan and gmane. >> >> Yup. Maybe a combo with how Pan encodes and your MUA? >> >> (what puzzles me is from where it comes the ISO encoding for the >> "From:" line. My Pan client is configured to use UTF-8 :-?) > > I thought I had a clue about the problem - not so sure anymore. I've put > some screen scrapes up here:-http://ge.tt/857njz4?c because I'm not sure > if you're seeing the same things I'm seeing. It includes a snap of an > email search for the blackdiamondquestion character. Wow... I look horrible 8:-) But how about the fourth of the snapshots? It seems to display the name just right. >> There has to be another mailing list users with accented characters in >> their names. Make a quick search on your MUA archive to check if >> experience the same. I've found some :-) > > Visual (not quick) check shows the following (from this years posts) > that display fine:- (...) Okay, then we have another clue that may help to solve the mystery. It seems the problem presents with "iso-8859-1" but "utf-8" is fine. Now I have to see why my posts are enconding with iso in the "From:" field instead utf8 :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.10.15.02...@gmail.com
Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop
On Fri 10 Jun 2011 at 23:40:35 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 10/06/11 22:20, Brian wrote: > > > > Remove cable. > > > >root@dektop3:~# dmesg | tail -n 1 > >[ 158.220270] via-rhine :00:12.0: eth0: link down > > > > > > > eth0 is not brought down > > Yes it is --^ 'link down' is a kernel message recognising the disappearence of the cable connection, not a declaration that eth0 is down. If it were not active the interface would not appear in the ifconfig output and would not be available. The routing table still exists. The machine knows where to send packets but nothing leaves through eth0. > > and also retains its IP address. > > Not "also". It's a static address. An address obtained via dhcp would also be retained because eth0 is still up. > With those settings hotplug never gets to function, as the device > (builtin) is there from boot, and nothing can be changed whether the > cable is connected or not (static settings). I assure you allow-hotplug does function during booting. Try it with dpcp. Now auto and dhcp. See the difference? > If you change the static settings to dhcp it should change - provided > network manager is not installed of course. > eg. change static to dhcp and comment out the last five lines > restart the network and ifconfig should aquire an network settings - the > nic will be brought down when the cable is later removed - but settings > will be retained (lease determined). You are right about the settings but not about the NIC. Cable out - NIC stays up. > Your current method of configuring the network is a fast, reliable, and > simple way if LAN is the only connection you ever use. You can even add > dns entries to interfaces. > > Where you might have problems is moving to different LANs or using a modem. The /e/n/i I use (the one above was an example for the purpose of my post) gives me no problem on any wired or wireless LAN or with mobile broadband. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110610144328.GW19914@desktop
Re: How to install with encrypted root?
10/06/2011 15:25, Christian Jaeger wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to install squeeze with "/" being a partition dmcrypt'ed > with luks. Is Debian supposed to support that or not? For me the > debian installer failed to do it, so I sent mail to debian-boot about > it [1] and then since I didn't get a reply reported a bug against > initramfs-tools [2], where Maximilian Attems told me to get support > here. > > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/06/msg00068.html > [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=629985 > > So please tell me what I'm doing it wrong, whether it works for you, > or whether that's in fact a result of bug(s) and ideally to which > package(s) it(they) should be reported. > > Thanks, > Christian. > > Hi, I can confirm that it works, my main system is fully on Luks ( To be precise it is luks on raid1, and /home is decrypted with pam, swap with decrypt_derived.). I set up a similar system from a wheezy netinstall amd64 (2011-05-12) ISO. I did it in expert mode (don't know if it matters), I didn't go the "Debian way" (one lvm on luks) but I manually created luks containers (/, swap and /home), a separate /boot, then went forward with the installation and it worked flawlessly. I can't explain why it doesn't work in your case, you could try to add the required modules to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, or check in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf that you have MODULES=most and BUSYBOX=yes. Maybe cp the /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot hook script to /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks/, this shouldn't be necessary though. Do you have a /etc/crypttab file, is it accurate ? Is the fstab too ? Tried reinstalling cryptsetup from the chroot ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df22ef7.7090...@googlemail.com
Re: Debian Questions on apt-get
On 10/06/11 22:21, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal > wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: >>> To find a package I also frequently do something like this: >>> >>> yum list available |grep abr_package_name >> >> This is either "apt-cache search abr_package_name" to look for >> prospective packages or "dpkg -l abr_package_name" to show the state of >> packages on your system. > > No. It's not. Please do not confuse newbies. 'dpkg -l' merely shows > installed packages, 'yum list' shows installed and *available* > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for apt > to list all the available packages for a system, rather than directly > parsing /var/lib/dpkg/available, but this is not it. To list all available packages:- # apt-get update (refresh database of available packages) # apt-cache dumpavail | less (will give you detailed info on all available packages - difficult to grep through though) # apt-cache pkgnames | less (will give you just the package names for all available packages, in no particular order) I find most useful:- # apt-cache search [regex] | less Asking me about the merits of aptitude is liking asking a emac fanboi about the merits of vi :-) # apt-get -s whatever (is your friend) Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df2226e.4030...@gmail.com
Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop
On Fri 10 Jun 2011 at 11:25:25 +, Camaleón wrote: > Now we have to extract some conclusions which is what I tried to do. The premise is false: plugging in a cable does not bring up the interface with ifconfig. This would make the conclusions suspect. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110610132540.GV19914@desktop
Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop
On 10/06/11 22:20, Brian wrote: > On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 21:24:40 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Brian wrote: >>> >>> Why would plugging or unplugging the ethernet cable be expected to >>> bring the interface up or down? >> >> That's the whole point of "allow-hotplug". > > In which case it is not working here. > >root@dektop3:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces >auto lo >iface lo inet loopback > >allow-hotplug eth0 >iface eth0 inet static >address 192.168.7.30 >netmask 255.255.255.0 >network 192.168.7.0 >broadcast 192.168.7.255 >gateway 192.168.7.1 > > Boot with cable attached. (Although it makes no difference to the > ifconfig output if there is no cable). > >root@dektop3:~# ifconfig >eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0c:76:b3:b4:ca > inet addr:192.168.7.30 Bcast:192.168.7.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > inet6 addr: fe80::20c:76ff:feb3:b4ca/64 Scope:Link > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > RX packets:71 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > RX bytes:9601 (9.3 KiB) TX bytes:1454 (1.4 KiB) > Interrupt:23 Base address:0xe400 > >loLink encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > RX bytes:656 (656.0 B) TX bytes:656 (656.0 B) > > Remove cable. > >root@dektop3:~# dmesg | tail -n 1 >[ 158.220270] via-rhine :00:12.0: eth0: link down > > > eth0 is not brought down Yes it is --^ > and also retains its IP address. Not "also". It's a static address. > > With those settings hotplug never gets to function, as the device (builtin) is there from boot, and nothing can be changed whether the cable is connected or not (static settings). If you change the static settings to dhcp it should change - provided network manager is not installed of course. eg. change static to dhcp and comment out the last five lines restart the network and ifconfig should aquire an network settings - the nic will be brought down when the cable is later removed - but settings will be retained (lease determined). Your current method of configuring the network is a fast, reliable, and simple way if LAN is the only connection you ever use. You can even add dns entries to interfaces. Where you might have problems is moving to different LANs or using a modem. I suspect the purpose of hotplug is not ifconfig - it's for removable NICs - PCMCIA et al. Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df21ed3.3090...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Debian Questions on apt-get
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 09:10 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 08:21 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal > >> wrote: > >> > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: > >> >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. > >> >> Giving Debian a whirl now. > >> >> > >> > [cut] > >> >> > >> >> yum update > >> > > >> > This becomes "apt-get update" in debian. > >> > >> No. It's not. This is an endless source of confusion for folks coming > >> over from RHEL land. "apt-get update" just resyncs your local > >> repository information, it attempts to install nothing. > >> > >> The equivalent apt command is "apt-get upgrade". The equivalent yum > >> command to "apt-get update" is "yum clean metadata; yum list", to > >> update the available package list. > > > > As a German and a child from the 80's (44 years today) I started with > > SUSE Linux and IIRC they do use yum too, still have got Suse 11.2 > > installed, but I'm using yast2, if ever I should change something. > > > > Don't try to find equivalents, re-educate yourself. > > Especially if you've been using YaST based tools. Lord, SuSE did > nastiness to that with the non-RPM-based packages from third parties. > I welcome Debian's consistent approach of "bundle it and do it right: > here are good tools for you" rather than trying to outsmart the vendor > packaging systems. (NVidia drivers, shudder) > > Apt has been a very intelligible and effective shift from yum based > repositories for me: much of the credit for that goes to the Debian > maintainers and their firm grasp of "give them enough rope to hang > themselves, if they want, but make sure it's *good rope* and won't > break at surprising moments or chafe their backsides when they make a > hammock". A last OT mail from me. Switching from Suse to Debian (for a while I used Ubuntu and now switched back from Ubuntu to Debian) made at least my life easier, just some re-education was needed and of cause some multi-distro behaviours still track me, yesterday, for the first time ever I used debuild instead of checkinstall to build current ALSA packages. Building a kernel on Debian is much more comfortable, than on Suse and yes, it's easier to break a Suse especially when doing an upgrade, than to break a Debian. OtherMMV Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307712743.13487.138.camel@debian
How to install with encrypted root?
Hi I'm trying to install squeeze with "/" being a partition dmcrypt'ed with luks. Is Debian supposed to support that or not? For me the debian installer failed to do it, so I sent mail to debian-boot about it [1] and then since I didn't get a reply reported a bug against initramfs-tools [2], where Maximilian Attems told me to get support here. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/06/msg00068.html [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=629985 So please tell me what I'm doing it wrong, whether it works for you, or whether that's in fact a result of bug(s) and ideally to which package(s) it(they) should be reported. Thanks, Christian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTinxOy2sd=_cxynudgppe10gvp9...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian Questions on apt-get
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 08:21 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal >> wrote: >> > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: >> >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. >> >> Giving Debian a whirl now. >> >> >> > [cut] >> >> >> >> yum update >> > >> > This becomes "apt-get update" in debian. >> >> No. It's not. This is an endless source of confusion for folks coming >> over from RHEL land. "apt-get update" just resyncs your local >> repository information, it attempts to install nothing. >> >> The equivalent apt command is "apt-get upgrade". The equivalent yum >> command to "apt-get update" is "yum clean metadata; yum list", to >> update the available package list. > > As a German and a child from the 80's (44 years today) I started with > SUSE Linux and IIRC they do use yum too, still have got Suse 11.2 > installed, but I'm using yast2, if ever I should change something. > > Don't try to find equivalents, re-educate yourself. Especially if you've been using YaST based tools. Lord, SuSE did nastiness to that with the non-RPM-based packages from third parties. I welcome Debian's consistent approach of "bundle it and do it right: here are good tools for you" rather than trying to outsmart the vendor packaging systems. (NVidia drivers, shudder) Apt has been a very intelligible and effective shift from yum based repositories for me: much of the credit for that goes to the Debian maintainers and their firm grasp of "give them enough rope to hang themselves, if they want, but make sure it's *good rope* and won't break at surprising moments or chafe their backsides when they make a hammock". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktimhxx3knplq3qn_ygsznu+tlys...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian Questions on apt-get
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 08:21 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal > wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: > >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. > >> Giving Debian a whirl now. > >> > > [cut] > >> > >> yum update > > > > This becomes "apt-get update" in debian. > > No. It's not. This is an endless source of confusion for folks coming > over from RHEL land. "apt-get update" just resyncs your local > repository information, it attempts to install nothing. > > The equivalent apt command is "apt-get upgrade". The equivalent yum > command to "apt-get update" is "yum clean metadata; yum list", to > update the available package list. As a German and a child from the 80's (44 years today) I started with SUSE Linux and IIRC they do use yum too, still have got Suse 11.2 installed, but I'm using yast2, if ever I should change something. Don't try to find equivalents, re-educate yourself. 2 Cents, Ralf PS: > Your other notes are helpful, but please try not to confuse a nice new > person with mismatched comparisons of existing commands that *don't* > have the same features between operating systems. I just went through > this with a recent switch from RHEL based systems to Debian, so it's > very fresh in my mind. Good that somebody knows about the differences. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307710821.13487.115.camel@debian
Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop
On Fri 10 Jun 2011 at 18:51:06 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > e100: eth0 NIC Link is Down > e100: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex Shows the cable was initially unplugged and then connected. The machine was booted/woke up before the connection was made? You're using dhcp? > And ifconfig shows the configuration of the device has changed between > the two events. In what way did the output of ifconfig change? Did connecting the cable bring the interface up (no entry for eth0 before but an entry afterwards)? How did the ifconfig output alter when the cable was taken out and re-inserted a few times? > How is that not configuring the device? The interface eth0 (the device) gets an IP address (I'm assuming this was the change you saw in ifconfig) but is not brought up by plugging a cable in. Without that step it would not get an address. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110610124228.GU19914@desktop
Re: Which sound card for my server rack?
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 12:07 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:03:22 +, alex.padoly wrote: > > > My server have several PCI 64 bits slots, I can put my PCI video card > > (ATI RADEON PCI) but I can't put my soundblaster PCI 128, I can put it > > a sounBlaster Live PCI but this card doesn't work with Linux! > > > > Which sound card I can put in my server rack and it works with Linux. I > > need sound when I use a application sometimes. Thanks you! > > Hum... I would say that, generally speaking, racked servers usually embed > the audio chipset in the motherboard (as well as most of the computers do > in those days) and that should be enough *unless* you need something > more... FWIW even crappy onboard devices on Linux can be used for duplex audio production, hence jackd allows to set the periods/buffer ex 2, AFAIK ASIO isn't able to do this. Of cause, nobody wishes to use an integrated sound device for his audio studio, hence of a bad sound quality, missing studio standards such as ADAT, sync output etc., but it's possible to use such stuff too. -- Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307710353.13487.107.camel@debian
Re: [OT] Bad characters on e-mail headers (was iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility)
On 10/06/11 20:46, � wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:06:18 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> On 10/06/11 04:10, � wrote: >>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 03:16:12 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> On 10/06/11 02:01, Camaleón wrote: >>> >>> >>> Eureka! We have found the culprit! >>> >>> It seems to be my Pan newsreader... oh, well, another bug for it >:-) >> >> I'm not convinced - I don't get the problem with other Pan users, though >> it could be a combination of Pan and gmane. > > Yup. Maybe a combo with how Pan encodes and your MUA? > > (what puzzles me is from where it comes the ISO encoding for the "From:" > line. My Pan client is configured to use UTF-8 :-?) I thought I had a clue about the problem - not so sure anymore. I've put some screen scrapes up here:-http://ge.tt/857njz4?c because I'm not sure if you're seeing the same things I'm seeing. It includes a snap of an email search for the blackdiamondquestion character. > > There has to be another mailing list users with accented characters in > their names. Make a quick search on your MUA archive to check if > experience the same. I've found some :-) Visual (not quick) check shows the following (from this years posts) that display fine:- Nuno Magalhães Rémi Letot Aéris fernão lopes François TOURDE Géniusz együttes Camaleón (between the 31st 10 2010 and 7th 06 2011) see:- http://blobs.ge.tt/857njz4/blackdiamondquestion3.png From: =?utf-8?B?Q2FtYWxlw7Nu?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mutt Jesús M. Navarro From: "=?utf-8?q?Jes=C3=BAs_M=2E?= Navarro" User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jordi_Guti=C3=A9rrez_Hermoso?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 gmail Jörg-Volker Peetz From: =?UTF-8?B?SsO2cmctVm9sa2VyIFBlZXR6?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mozilla Martin Ågren From: =?UTF-8?Q?Martin_=C3=85gren?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable gmail I need to try another email client and see whether that makes a difference - if necessary I'll try changing my locale settings as the next isolation test. Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df21214.1020...@gmail.com
Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop
On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 21:24:40 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Brian wrote: >> > > Why would plugging or unplugging the ethernet cable be expected to > > bring the interface up or down? > > That's the whole point of "allow-hotplug". In which case it is not working here. root@dektop3:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.7.30 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.7.0 broadcast 192.168.7.255 gateway 192.168.7.1 Boot with cable attached. (Although it makes no difference to the ifconfig output if there is no cable). root@dektop3:~# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0c:76:b3:b4:ca inet addr:192.168.7.30 Bcast:192.168.7.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::20c:76ff:feb3:b4ca/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:71 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:23 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:9601 (9.3 KiB) TX bytes:1454 (1.4 KiB) Interrupt:23 Base address:0xe400 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:656 (656.0 B) TX bytes:656 (656.0 B) Remove cable. root@dektop3:~# dmesg | tail -n 1 [ 158.220270] via-rhine :00:12.0: eth0: link down root@dektop3:~# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0c:76:b3:b4:ca inet addr:192.168.7.30 Bcast:192.168.7.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::20c:76ff:feb3:b4ca/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:92 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:25 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:12143 (11.8 KiB) TX bytes:1538 (1.5 KiB) Interrupt:23 Base address:0xe400 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:656 (656.0 B) TX bytes:656 (656.0 B) eth0 is not brought down and also retains its IP address. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110610122009.GT19914@desktop
Re: Debian Questions on apt-get
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. >> Giving Debian a whirl now. >> > [cut] >> >> yum update > > This becomes "apt-get update" in debian. No. It's not. This is an endless source of confusion for folks coming over from RHEL land. "apt-get update" just resyncs your local repository information, it attempts to install nothing. The equivalent apt command is "apt-get upgrade". The equivalent yum command to "apt-get update" is "yum clean metadata; yum list", to update the available package list. >> or: >> >> yum install package_name > > apt-get install package_name > >> >> To find a package I also frequently do something like this: >> >> yum list available |grep abr_package_name > > This is either "apt-cache search abr_package_name" to look for > prospective packages or "dpkg -l abr_package_name" to show the state of > packages on your system. No. It's not. Please do not confuse newbies. 'dpkg -l' merely shows installed packages, 'yum list' shows installed and *available* packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for apt to list all the available packages for a system, rather than directly parsing /var/lib/dpkg/available, but this is not it. Your other notes are helpful, but please try not to confuse a nice new person with mismatched comparisons of existing commands that *don't* have the same features between operating systems. I just went through this with a recent switch from RHEL based systems to Debian, so it's very fresh in my mind. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktikbr5yurdgqpc1qpsj1pip90w9...@mail.gmail.com
Re: fopen when using apt-get
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:39:36 +1000, Rob Hurle wrote: (...) > Unpacking replacement [whatever the package is] ... Processing triggers > for man-db ... > fopen: Permission denied > Setting up [whatever the package is] ([version information]) ... > > This happens with all updates. Anyone know what causes the error when > fopen is called, and is it serious? Is it possibly something to do with > my man pages configuration? Wait until some confirms it, but it could be related to what this bug points: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nexenta/+bug/335056 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.10.12.16...@gmail.com
Re: Which sound card for my server rack?
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:03:22 +, alex.padoly wrote: > My server have several PCI 64 bits slots, I can put my PCI video card > (ATI RADEON PCI) but I can't put my soundblaster PCI 128, I can put it > a sounBlaster Live PCI but this card doesn't work with Linux! > > Which sound card I can put in my server rack and it works with Linux. I > need sound when I use a application sometimes. Thanks you! Hum... I would say that, generally speaking, racked servers usually embed the audio chipset in the motherboard (as well as most of the computers do in those days) and that should be enough *unless* you need something more... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.10.12.07...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Mice
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 14:28:05 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 06/07/2011 01:40 PM, Camaleón wrote: [snip] >>> >>> I still see some disadvantages for laser or BlueTrack based mice: >>> >>> 1/ They do not work on crystal or clear surfaces >>> >>> >> I can't remember the last time I put my mouse on a clear (glass?) >> surface. But if I did, then I'd use a mousepad. > > And what happens if you are on a conference room (or any other "hostile" > environment) with no mousepad at all? Only you, a pristine clear surface > and your hi-tech laser mouse ;-) You put the mouse on a notebook or on the back of a handout. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktingqf6h9cf3t45t+r0wsg0p+_y...@mail.gmail.com
Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop
On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 22:55:38 -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote: > #allow-hotplug eth0 > auto eth1 > iface eth1 inet static The device name changed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110610113018.GS19914@desktop
Re: Proper Use of adduser.conf
Peter Wiersig writes: > What result is printed on "getent passwd testuser"? # getent passwd testuser testuser:x:28000:28000:a b c,,,:/srv/backups/testuser:/bin/bash > what's the result of "ls -ld ~testuser /srv/backups /srv /"? # ls -ld ~testuser /srv/backups/testuser drwxr-xr-x 2 testuser testuser 54 Jun 9 13:28/srv/backups/testuser drwxr-xr-x 2 testuser testuser 54 Jun 9 13:28/srv/backups/testuser -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106101129.p5abtqwl094...@x.it.okstate.edu
Re: how to get to runlevel 3 (to install nvidia drivers)
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:01:34 +0100, David Sanders wrote: >> I suspect you don't want to get to run level 3, you just want to shut >> down your x server. >> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace - if that doesn't work, or it keeps restarting... # >> /etc/init.d/kdm stop (or gdm if gnome, or whatever you dm is) >> > I'd definitely say that using gdm or kdm is a better option - otherwise > you're bound to get the X server respawning. And also reading the nvidia README file for additional tips and/or requirements: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/270.41.19/README/installdriver.html#BeforeYouBegin89f39 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.10.11.33...@gmail.com
Re: Which sound card for my server rack?
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 11:03 +, alex.padoly wrote: > Hi, > > My server have several PCI 64 bits slots, I can put my PCI video > card (ATI RADEON PCI) but I can't put my soundblaster PCI 128, I can > put it a sounBlaster Live PCI > but this card doesn't work with Linux! > > Which sound card I can put in my server rack and it works with Linux. > I need sound when I use a application sometimes. > Thanks you! > > Regards. > > Alex So you don't need a card that enables real-time duplex (recording and playing at the same time), by giving you professional audio quality? You aren't using jackd? You're looking for a sound card that is able to play sound for e.g. youtube? Is some kind of surround format needed etc.? I don't have knowledge about the kind of card you need, but I recommend to take a look at "Is my soundcard supported? http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main " If you found a sound card that fit to your needs, please asked again, if there are still issues known. E.g. when you get an Envy24 based sound card and you're using PulseAudio, it won't work OOTB for some distros. You have to add two lines to a configuration file. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307705549.13487.59.camel@debian
gdmsetup can't unlock problem: any workaround?
I seem to be facing a bug where gdmsetup can't be unlocked: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=622234 Does anyone know of a workaround to turn on/off automatic login without gdmsetup? I'm often switching, leaving auto-login at home and turning it off when at work, travel etc. Thanks, Lorenzo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df1ff4c.2080...@libero.it
Re: laptop restart eth0 automatically on plugin or on awake like a desktop
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 23:29:39 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 09 Jun 2011 at 19:11:48 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> > The question remains - Why would plugging or unplugging the ethernet >> > cable be expected to bring the interface up or down? >> >> It does not have to be an isolated event. >> >> For example, the computer is hibernated or suspended, the cable was >> disonnected, you attach it and then you awake the system that triggers >> the restore script for the network service and the interface that was >> marked with "allow-hotplug" cannot be up. > > You're moving the goalposts! No, I'm not changing the target just giving you examples of what can make the networking service to be restarted. I'm just reading the facts and trying to know how to interpret them: - The was a problem with an ethernet device not coming up by its own when the cable is being reconnected. - The interface was defined with "allow-hotplug" stanza. - By modifiying that line to "auto" the problem seems to be solved. Now we have to extract some conclusions which is what I tried to do. But if you want a detailed explanation about where the problem is better ask to someone that understand the inners on how the kernel works, how udev works -plus how they deal with buggy hardware or firmwares or additional buggy software (scripts) that can interere for this to work as expected- and what bugs you can expect as a result of all this mess. I really would like to have a concise and clear explanation on why this is happening but I'm afraid I don't have ;-( Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.10.11.25...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 11:03 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 21:18:36 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:51 +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> Accustom yourself to run a login shell when launching GUI based > >> applications (i.e., "su -" instead "su") ;-) > >> > > > > Thank you :) > > > > that's better, still some GTK warnings > > > > root@debian:/home/spinymouse# su --login > > root@debian:~# gedit > > > > (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to rename > > '/root/.recently-used.xbel': No such file or directory > > > > (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into > > `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create > > file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.0T0SWV': No such file or > > directory > > > > (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of > > `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or > > directory > > I think you can safely ignore those warnings (BTW, I don't get them on my > wheezy) or you can try to find why they are flooding your screen. Thank you :) 3 warnings are ok, just the tons of warnings I get with 'su' are bad, since I sometimes like to scroll back and e.g. copy something I 'ls' or 'cat' before, to paste it into a script I edit with gedit. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307704750.13487.46.camel@debian
Which sound card for my server rack?
Hi, My server have several PCI 64 bits slots, I can put my PCI video card (ATI RADEON PCI) but I can't put my soundblaster PCI 128, I can put it a sounBlaster Live PCI but this card doesn't work with Linux! Which sound card I can put in my server rack and it works with Linux. I need sound when I use a application sometimes. Thanks you! Regards. Alex
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 21:18:36 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:51 +, Camaleón wrote: >> Accustom yourself to run a login shell when launching GUI based >> applications (i.e., "su -" instead "su") ;-) >> > > Thank you :) > > that's better, still some GTK warnings > > root@debian:/home/spinymouse# su --login > root@debian:~# gedit > > (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to rename > '/root/.recently-used.xbel': No such file or directory > > (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into > `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create > file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.0T0SWV': No such file or > directory > > (gedit:8179): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of > `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or > directory I think you can safely ignore those warnings (BTW, I don't get them on my wheezy) or you can try to find why they are flooding your screen. >From your root dir, run: ls -la ls -la .local/share > Could it be that some distros handle it different to Debian? IIRC on > Suse su + gedit is ok ... I need to check this later. Yep, each distribution use their own tricks but reagardless the distro, it is still preferable to use "su -" or "gksu/kdesu" when you want to run GUI applications despite the GTK warnings :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.10.11.03...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Bad characters on e-mail headers (was iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility)
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:06:18 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 10/06/11 04:10, � wrote: >> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 03:16:12 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >>> On 10/06/11 02:01, Camaleón wrote: >> >> >> Eureka! We have found the culprit! >> >> It seems to be my Pan newsreader... oh, well, another bug for it >:-) > > I'm not convinced - I don't get the problem with other Pan users, though > it could be a combination of Pan and gmane. Yup. Maybe a combo with how Pan encodes and your MUA? (what puzzles me is from where it comes the ISO encoding for the "From:" line. My Pan client is configured to use UTF-8 :-?) But Gmane cannot be the cause because I've always posted through it and you didn't get the bad character encoding problem when I sent the message using Icedove. (...) >> Pan? :-) > > No. I'm convinced it's in my setting somewhere. That it only occurs with > your emails doesn't negate my being the only one to experience the > issue. I've try kmail on a Virtualbox machine if I get a chance later - > if that does the same thing I'll try changing my locale settings. There has to be another mailing list users with accented characters in their names. Make a quick search on your MUA archive to check if experience the same. I've found some :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.10.10.46...@gmail.com
Re: unable to enumerate usb device on port 5
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:04:00 +0530, Rohit Vaidya wrote: > I have just installed Debian Squeeze successfully. On boot up I get the > following message constantly dumped > on the console. Whenever I try to access the virtual terminal it gives > me the same message. > "Unable to enumerate usb device on port 5" . Even a dmesg shows the same > message being constantly dumped > on the terminal. What is the problem and how can we overcome this issue? JFYI, there have been similar reports on this list about that error: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/05/msg01769.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/01/msg02201.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/12/msg00960.html And there is also a bug report: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=620848 What I don't know is if someone could finally solved the problem :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.06.10.10.25...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 19:25 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 10/06/11 18:27, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I'm guessing from the gedit that you're running Gnome? > Have you tried gksu and gksudo > eg:- > #gksu gedit (will work if installed) $ gksu gedit (gedit:13772): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported (gedit:13772): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to rename '/root/.recently-used.xbel': No such file or directory (gedit:13772): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to store changes into `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: Failed to create file '/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel.TWE1WV': No such file or directory (gedit:13772): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to set the permissions of `/root/.local/share/recently-used.xbel', but failed: No such file or directory Since gedit opens and works when running it after su, su - or with gksu it's ok, even with those warnings ;). -- Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307701217.13487.17.camel@debian
Re: how to get to runlevel 3 (to install nvidia drivers)
On 10/06/11 20:01, David Sanders wrote: >> I suspect you don't want to get to run level 3, you just want to shut >> down your x server. >> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace - if that doesn't work, or it keeps restarting... >> # /etc/init.d/kdm stop (or gdm if gnome, or whatever you dm is) >> > I'd definitely say that using gdm or kdm is a better option - > otherwise you're bound to get the X server respawning. > > David > > I'm paraphrasing the instructions from the Debian Wiki - which is always the safest option. :-) I run Nvidia proprietary drivers on the legacy Nvidia cards - so I've tried most methods of installing them. Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df1ef18.7080...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Bad characters on e-mail headers (was iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility)
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 11:03 +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Friday 10 June 2011 09:47:43 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 18:41 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > > I don't > > > know if it's your formal name, a nickname > > > > a nick, she wrote her real name > > Did I? I wonder why? And I wonder why I said that it was not my real name? > Lisi is what I am always called and was in fact named (after a cousin), but > in origin it is an Austro-Hungarian shortening of Erzsébet (Elizabeth). > > > several mails before, pardon, I've > > forgotten her name, but it's in the archive > > Lisi > > No, didn't came my other mail through the list? I apologised, because I guess I confused you perhaps with Camaleón. Again, pardon Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307700971.13487.14.camel@debian
Re: [OT] Bad characters on e-mail headers (was iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility)
On Friday 10 June 2011 10:32:25 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 10/06/11 18:47, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 18:41 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> I don't > >> know if it's your formal name, a nickname > > > > a nick, she wrote her real name several mails before, pardon, I've > > forgotten her name, but it's in the archive > > Funnily enough I've got Primus playing at present - song is "My name is > Mud" :-D > If I remember correctly they even released a Spanish version "Me Llamo Mud" > > Amarok2 - now with psychic playlists! :-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106101104.47772.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Bad characters on e-mail headers (was iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility)
On Friday 10 June 2011 09:47:43 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 18:41 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > I don't > > know if it's your formal name, a nickname > > a nick, she wrote her real name Did I? I wonder why? And I wonder why I said that it was not my real name? Lisi is what I am always called and was in fact named (after a cousin), but in origin it is an Austro-Hungarian shortening of Erzsébet (Elizabeth). > several mails before, pardon, I've > forgotten her name, but it's in the archive Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106101103.44478.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: how to get to runlevel 3 (to install nvidia drivers)
> I suspect you don't want to get to run level 3, you just want to shut > down your x server. > Ctrl+Alt+Backspace - if that doesn't work, or it keeps restarting... > # /etc/init.d/kdm stop (or gdm if gnome, or whatever you dm is) > I'd definitely say that using gdm or kdm is a better option - otherwise you're bound to get the X server respawning. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktikya02fts0dohh5b2mysg-zppr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Bad characters on e-mail headers (was iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility)
On Friday 10 June 2011 09:41:22 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 10/06/11 08:30, Lisi wrote: > > On Thursday 09 June 2011 19:10:40 Camaleón wrote: > >> that Lisi bloke > > > > I hope that that is a joke Not that I find it funny, but I would > > hate to think that you were serious. :-) > > > > Lisi > > No no! It was not Camaleón who wrote that. Yes - I knew that and apologise to Camaleón. it was careless and unchecked editing. > It was me. Self-deprecating > humour - certainly not meant to offend you. Yes - I realise that! I never thought that you were trying to offend me - but it did strike me as possible that you were serious. > I presumed it *likely* that you are female, but was uncertain Yes, most of the time on line it is very difficult to be sure. And we have to accept that statistically the majority of subscribers to a technical help list will be male. So for the avoidance of doubt I am female. But I realise that my name is not very informative! > - I don't > know if it's your formal name, a nickname or a diminutive - I "assumed" > femininity from comments you'd made. Like I "assume" tvdebian is male > > Not my week, first Peter turns out to be a... doh! > > Did I mention I'm Australian? Yes. I hadn't remembered very actively, but I had remembered. Using statistics again, the mode on this list would be of people living in the USA. So other things register. Come to think of it, I think that I gleaned the information from your locale rather than from anything you said. > :-D :-) Lisi > Cheers > > -- > Tuttle? His name's Buttle. > There must be some mistake. > Mistake? [Chuckles] > We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106101058.41344.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: how to get to runlevel 3 (to install nvidia drivers)
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Scott Ferguson < prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com> wrote: On 10/06/11 15:42, Mark Panen wrote: > Hi > > Been googling for this with no success. I have tried init 3 and teinit > 3 and the runlevel command shows i am at runlevel 3 but X is still on > and i cannot install a Nvidia driver. > > Cheers > > Mark > > Go to Virtual Terminal press Ctrl+Alt+F1 Get to super user mode. enter #init 3 For NVidia driver installation the Xorg should not be kept running. Hence you will need to shut it down. enter #kill -9 `pgrep Xorg` This will kill the Xorg. It may re spawn. In such a case again run the same command by switching to the virtual Terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F1) Now the Xorg is killed. You can run the NVidia driver installation now. Cheers :) -- Regards, Rohit Vaidya
Re: [OT] Bad characters on e-mail headers (was iceape 1.0.9 and IPv6 compatibility)
On 10/06/11 18:47, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 18:41 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> I don't >> know if it's your formal name, a nickname > > a nick, she wrote her real name several mails before, pardon, I've > forgotten her name, but it's in the archive > > Funnily enough I've got Primus playing at present - song is "My name is Mud" :-D If I remember correctly they even released a Spanish version "Me Llamo Mud" Amarok2 - now with psychic playlists! Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df1e4a9.3050...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome desktop settings borked on testing after reboot
On 10/06/11 18:27, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 18:17 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 10/06/11 05:18, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:51 +, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:23:52 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >>> >>> root@debian:/home/spinymouse# su --login >> >> Why is #(root) running su?? >> >> >> Cheers > > Usually I'm not doing this, I missed that I already was root when I > wanted to test the difference between 'su' and 'su --login', perhaps I > didn't push Ctrl + D hard enough, before I run 'su --login' and already > typed :D. > > Ralf > > I'm guessing from the gedit that you're running Gnome? Have you tried gksu and gksudo eg:- #gksu gedit (will work if installed) Alternatively you could try:- $xhost + (might not work) then su and run graphic editor. NOTE: security risk, but doesn't survive a reboot. Can be made permanent, and I haven't tried this with anything later than Lenny. Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df1e306.9010...@gmail.com
Re: how to get to runlevel 3
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:05 AM, George Chelidze wrote: > On 06/10/2011 11:37 AM, Mark Panen wrote: >> >> why is X running at runlevel 2 and not 5? > > sysv-rc-conf is a handy tool to check/set which service is run per run > level. as you can notice, runlevels 2-5 are identical (in Debian) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject > of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df1de62.7050...@magticom.ge > > Thanks guys, that clears it up for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=voo059mrjv+nhvuvbmuoey3_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: X host will not connect
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Peter Wiersig wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 06:11:09 +0200, Mark Panen wrote: >> >> "synaptic >> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. >> >> (synaptic:12730): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0" > > Try "ln -sf /home/mark/.Xauthority /root/" as root if mark is the user > logged in via ssh -X. > > Note that this link is then permanent and if you wish to revoke roots > access to your display you can rm /root/.Xauthority > > Peter > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87oc26rtua@london087.server4you.de > > yes, that works thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktin90cacsr3c8akinoqk6nywpbz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: how to get to runlevel 3 (to install nvidia drivers)
On 10/06/11 15:42, Mark Panen wrote: > Hi > > Been googling for this with no success. I have tried init 3 and teinit > 3 and the runlevel command shows i am at runlevel 3 but X is still on > and i cannot install a Nvidia driver. > > Cheers > > Mark > > I suspect you don't want to get to run level 3, you just want to shut down your x server. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace - if that doesn't work, or it keeps restarting... # /etc/init.d/kdm stop (or gdm if gnome, or whatever you dm is) There is a very useful section on the Debian wiki for what you're doing. You'll need it for the nouveau stuff ;-) Cheers -- Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake. Mistake? [Chuckles] We don't make mistakes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df1df1c.9050...@gmail.com
Re: X host will not connect
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 06:11:09 +0200, Mark Panen wrote: > > "synaptic > X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. > > (synaptic:12730): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0" Try "ln -sf /home/mark/.Xauthority /root/" as root if mark is the user logged in via ssh -X. Note that this link is then permanent and if you wish to revoke roots access to your display you can rm /root/.Xauthority Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87oc26rtua@london087.server4you.de
Re: how to get to runlevel 3
On 06/10/2011 11:37 AM, Mark Panen wrote: why is X running at runlevel 2 and not 5? sysv-rc-conf is a handy tool to check/set which service is run per run level. as you can notice, runlevels 2-5 are identical (in Debian) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4df1de62.7050...@magticom.ge
