Re: PC éteint qui consomme
Le Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:56:45 +0200 François Boisson user.anti-s...@maison.homelinux.net a écrit: J'ai remarqué que la consommation correspondait approximativement à celle d'une mise en veille de l'ordinateur. Pourrait-on envisager un souci dans l'extinction même de l'ordinateur par le noyau, seul une extinction manuelle après le reboute permettant d'éteindre réellement la machine. Cela signifierait qu'il faudrait regarder dans l'extinction de la machine par le noyau. Celle ci se fait elle au niveau de l'ACPI? Toshiba est assez pénible de ce coté là, utilisant soit un ACPI personnel (toshiba_acpi) soit un firmware Phoenix (module omnibook) soit un bazar non supporté à ce jour (Toshiba L775). Hum, je pense que je tiens un truc, dans les sources du noyau, dans arch/x86/kernel/apic/apic.c, on trouve /* * If Linux enabled the LAPIC against the BIOS default disable it down before * re-entering the BIOS on shutdown. Otherwise the BIOS may get confused and * not power-off. Additionally clear all LVT entries before disable_local_APIC * for the case where Linux didn't enable the LAPIC. */ pour la fonction lapic_shutdown. Cela ferait pile poil les symptomes que j'ai: Extinction apparente mais consommation comme si la machine était en veille. Dans ce cas, il va falloir éplucher cet aspect. Si certais ont de l'expérience sur ce point... François Boisson -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920102801.bd57524d0003b4ae458ca...@boisson.homeip.net
Re: debian et onduleur
On 09/19/2012 11:10 PM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: Bonjour, J'aimerai avoir vos retours d'expériences sur les onduleurs et leur support par debian pour une machine personnelle. Un programme peut éteindre ton pc alimenté par un onduleur. Ce programme ne débranchera jamais ton onduleur de la prise secteur. Ton onduleur consomme donc exactement de la même manière, qu'il alimente un PC, écran, etc ou qu'il n'alimente rien du tout. Ce n'est pas négligeable pour un onduleur qui consomme entre 600 et 1000 Wh. Cordialement -- Maderios Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures. L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure (Georges Braque) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505ae39a.2090...@gmail.com
Re: debian et onduleur
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:36:26 +0200 maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote: Ton onduleur consomme donc exactement de la même manière, qu'il alimente un PC, écran, etc ou qu'il n'alimente rien du tout. Ce n'est pas négligeable pour un onduleur qui consomme entre 600 et 1000 Wh. NON, un onduleur offline ne consommera que ce qu'il lui faut pour maintenir la batterie à 100% de charge (ou la recharger si besoin est). Un onduleur online, qui est doté d'une technologie faisant qu'en sus de la consommation ci-dessus, ne consomme que lorsqu'il est sollicité (et qq µA sinon). Le tout s'ajoutant, bien sûr à la consommation de veille du PC qd son alim n'est pas coupée manuellement. -- * Coy a été élevé sur les valeurs de y faut pas faire du mal gratuitement aux gens DarkSoul[Away] Coy: non, faut les faire payer -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920114841.037181d9@anubis.defcon1
Re: debian et onduleur
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:36:26AM CEST, maderios mader...@gmail.com said: On 09/19/2012 11:10 PM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: Bonjour, J'aimerai avoir vos retours d'expériences sur les onduleurs et leur support par debian pour une machine personnelle. Un programme peut éteindre ton pc alimenté par un onduleur. Ce programme ne débranchera jamais ton onduleur de la prise secteur. Ton onduleur consomme donc exactement de la même manière, qu'il alimente un PC, écran, etc ou qu'il n'alimente rien du tout. Ce n'est pas négligeable pour un onduleur qui consomme entre 600 et 1000 Wh. Cordialement C'est une blague ? Bien sûr que l'onduleur va plus conommer s'il alimente un PC allumé ou pas ! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920095132.gi2...@rail.eu.org
Re: debian et onduleur
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:10:15PM CEST, Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr said: Bonjour, J'aimerai avoir vos retours d'expériences sur les onduleurs et leur support par debian pour une machine personnelle. Merci. Gaëtan J'ai un eaton qqchose 800 (je peux regarder le modèle exact ce soir). Parfaitement supporté par nut en USB. En fait lors de l'achat j'avais regardé le site de nut pour voir ce qu'il supportait... -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920095303.gj2...@rail.eu.org
Re: zones horaires
Rémi Vanicat, 2012-09-19 07:13+0200: Sauf que si je veux parler d'un rendez vous tout les jours à 10h, le décalage UTC pose problème: 10h en été n'est pas la même heure UTC que 10h en hivers... Effectivement, bien vu ! -- ,--. : /` ) Tanguy Ortolo xmpp:tan...@ortolo.eu | `-'Debian Developer irc://irc.oftc.net/Tanguy \_ -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3epiq$j6j$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: debian et onduleur
On 09/20/2012 11:48 AM, Bzzz wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:36:26 +0200 maderiosmader...@gmail.com wrote: Ton onduleur consomme donc exactement de la même manière, qu'il alimente un PC, écran, etc ou qu'il n'alimente rien du tout. Ce n'est pas négligeable pour un onduleur qui consomme entre 600 et 1000 Wh. NON, un onduleur offline ne consommera que ce qu'il lui faut pour maintenir la batterie à 100% de charge (ou la recharger si besoin est). Un onduleur online, qui est doté d'une technologie faisant qu'en sus de la consommation ci-dessus, ne consomme que lorsqu'il est sollicité (et qq µA sinon). Le tout s'ajoutant, bien sûr à la consommation de veille du PC qd son alim n'est pas coupée manuellement. J'utilise des onduleurs online et offline depuis 1997. Ces onduleurs consomment dès qu'ils sont branchés sur le secteur. Touche ton onduleur, il est aussi chaud, utilisé ou non. Ensuite le compteur électrique tourne de la même manière, que tu te serves de l'onduleur ou non. Les économiseurs en tous genres n'ont donc aucune utilité si le PC est alimenté par un onduleur. Cordialement -- Maderios Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures. L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure (Georges Braque) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505aea54.5000...@gmail.com
Re: zones horaires
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 07:13:06 +0200 Rémi Vanicat vani...@debian.org wrote: Sauf que si je veux parler d'un rendez vous tout les jours à 10h, le décalage UTC pose problème: 10h en été n'est pas la même heure UTC que 10h en hivers... Ça doit-être pour ça qu'il existe un bit appelé DST... (Daylight Saving Time). -- JoJo: Nous, on parle doucement pour se dire un secret, mais les sourds muets, comment ils font ? Discrimination! O_o: ils mettent des moufles -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920121056.77f9dc31@anubis.defcon1
Re: debian et onduleur
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:05:08 +0200 maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote: J'utilise des onduleurs online et offline depuis 1997. Ces onduleurs consomment dès qu'ils sont branchés sur le secteur. Touche ton onduleur, il est aussi chaud, utilisé ou non. Ensuite le compteur électrique tourne de la même manière, que tu te serves de l'onduleur ou non. Les économiseurs en tous genres n'ont donc aucune utilité si le PC est alimenté par un onduleur. Hé bien il serait temps de penser à changer de technologie... -- Max le nouvel an c'est quand même international Max enfin en france en tout cas -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920121310.342d662a@anubis.defcon1
Re: debian et onduleur
On 09/20/2012 12:13 PM, Bzzz wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:05:08 +0200 maderiosmader...@gmail.com wrote: J'utilise des onduleurs online et offline depuis 1997. Ces onduleurs consomment dès qu'ils sont branchés sur le secteur. Touche ton onduleur, il est aussi chaud, utilisé ou non. Ensuite le compteur électrique tourne de la même manière, que tu te serves de l'onduleur ou non. Les économiseurs en tous genres n'ont donc aucune utilité si le PC est alimenté par un onduleur. Hé bien il serait temps de penser à changer de technologie... Mon onduleur ne date pas de 1997, c'est un MGE Pulsar Ellipse... S'il s'agit de mon cas, tu peux vérifier de visu que ton propre onduleur, si tu en utilises un, se comporte comme je le décris ci-dessus. S'il s'agit des onduleurs en général, oui, les constructeurs devraient se préoccuper des économies d'énergie, insérer un relais par exemple, pour déconnecter l'onduleur du secteur s'il n'est pas utilisé. -- Maderios Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures. L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure (Georges Braque) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505afcda.4020...@gmail.com
Re: debian et onduleur
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:24:10 +0200 maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote: Mon onduleur ne date pas de 1997, c'est un MGE Pulsar Ellipse... Connaît pas MGE en exploitation, j'utilisais plutôt du Liebert ou de l'Emerson. S'il s'agit de mon cas, tu peux vérifier de visu que ton propre onduleur, si tu en utilises un, se comporte comme je le décris ci-dessus. Soit tu te trompes, soit MGE c'est de la daube; sur un double- conversion vieille génération la conso était en Gal ~ %100 - %rendement x KVA, par ex. pour un 25KVA @ 92%, ça donne: 1 - .92 = .08 .08 x 25000 = 2000VA, avec un cos.phi de faible charge @ 0.8, ça fait 2500W consommés, même pas de quoi le rendre tiède. -- * inpaucible_be a rejoint #informatique AddiKT1ve inpaucible n'est pas français. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920144427.3872910c@anubis.defcon1
Re: debian et onduleur
On 09/20/2012 02:44 PM, Bzzz wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:24:10 +0200 maderiosmader...@gmail.com wrote: Mon onduleur ne date pas de 1997, c'est un MGE Pulsar Ellipse... Connaît pas MGE en exploitation, j'utilisais plutôt du Liebert ou de l'Emerson. S'il s'agit de mon cas, tu peux vérifier de visu que ton propre onduleur, si tu en utilises un, se comporte comme je le décris ci-dessus. Soit tu te trompes, soit MGE c'est de la daube; sur un double- conversion vieille génération la conso était en Gal ~ %100 - %rendement x KVA, par ex. pour un 25KVA @ 92%, ça donne: 1 - .92 = .08 .08 x 25000 = 2000VA, avec un cos.phi de faible charge @ 0.8, ça fait 2500W consommés, même pas de quoi le rendre tiède. Quel beau calcul... Onduleur branché, vérifie simplement comment tourne ton compteur EDF, PC démarré et PC éteint. Quant à MGE, ex Merlin Gerin d'ailleurs, il a changé de nom, acheté par Eaton. http://www.onduleurs.fr/index.php?cPath=123 Cordialement -- Maderios Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures. L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure (Georges Braque) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b40cd.5090...@gmail.com
Re: debian et onduleur
Le Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:05:08 +0200 maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit: On 09/20/2012 11:48 AM, Bzzz wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:36:26 +0200 maderiosmader...@gmail.com wrote: Ton onduleur consomme donc exactement de la même manière, qu'il alimente un PC, écran, etc ou qu'il n'alimente rien du tout. Ce n'est pas négligeable pour un onduleur qui consomme entre 600 et 1000 Wh. NON, un onduleur offline ne consommera que ce qu'il lui faut pour maintenir la batterie à 100% de charge (ou la recharger si besoin est). Un onduleur online, qui est doté d'une technologie faisant qu'en sus de la consommation ci-dessus, ne consomme que lorsqu'il est sollicité (et qq µA sinon). Le tout s'ajoutant, bien sûr à la consommation de veille du PC qd son alim n'est pas coupée manuellement. J'utilise des onduleurs online et offline depuis 1997. Ces onduleurs consomment dès qu'ils sont branchés sur le secteur. Touche ton onduleur, il est aussi chaud, utilisé ou non. Ensuite le compteur électrique tourne de la même manière, que tu te serves de l'onduleur ou non. Les économiseurs en tous genres n'ont donc aucune utilité si le PC est alimenté par un onduleur. Et c'est quoi qui fait que ça consomme ? Parce quand la charge (le PC) ne tire pas dessus dans quoi débite-t-il pour consommer autant ??? Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920233717.cd4b4fd8751c34fea154d...@neuf.fr
Re: debian et onduleur
Merci à tous pour vos réponses. Pour l'instant je me suis arrêté sur un modèle d'APC (Black UPS Pro) et un d'Eaton (Ellipse Max). Celui d'APC a la fonctionnalité maître/esclave sur les prises mais n'en a que 6, alors que celui d'Eaton en a 8 et à l'avantage d'avoir un support linux par le fabricant. Que pensez-vous de ces deux modèles ? Le Black UPS Pro est-il bien géré sous debian (sur le site de nut il est marqué comme dev par reverse engineering) ? Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920234309.034ce68abe9c66a200f02...@neuf.fr
Re: Organización y distribución de imagenes por red
El día 20 de septiembre de 2012 09:01, Trujillo Carmona, Antonio
antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es escribió:
¿Alguien sabe de algún sistema para organizar y distribuir imágenes de
equipos por red?.
Ni que decir tiene que lo quiero con Debian (o como mínimo para Linux).
La idea seria de poder meter los equipos estropeados en una vlan (eso ya
lo tengo) y lo mas automático posible volver a pegarle la imagen del
disco.
Para el arranque y el pegado de imágenes creo que lo podre organizar con
PXE y parted, lo que mas me interesa es saber si hay algo que lo integre
todo y sobre todo que lo organice (base de datos etc)
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Re: Organización y distribución de imagenes por red
El jue, 20-09-2012 a las 09:59 +0200, Mariano Cediel escribió: El día 20 de septiembre de 2012 09:01, Trujillo Carmona, Antonio antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es escribió: ¿Alguien sabe de algún sistema para organizar y distribuir imágenes de equipos por red?. Ni que decir tiene que lo quiero con Debian (o como mínimo para Linux). La idea seria de poder meter los equipos estropeados en una vlan (eso ya lo tengo) y lo mas automático posible volver a pegarle la imagen del disco. Para el arranque y el pegado de imágenes creo que lo podre organizar con PXE y parted, lo que mas me interesa es saber si hay algo que lo integre todo y sobre todo que lo organice (base de datos etc) -- trujo antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1348124487.9341.5.ca...@trujo.hvn.sas.junta-andalucia.es buscas algo rollo CLONEZILLA ¿? Tiene buena pinta, le echare un vistazo -- trujo antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1348128238.9341.6.ca...@trujo.hvn.sas.junta-andalucia.es
Re: Organización y distribución de imagenes por red
Si quieres algo del rollo clonezilla lo puedes hacer de 2 formas:
Bien utilizas drbl - http://drbl.sourceforge.net/
Que incluye clonezilla entre otros aparte de partclone,
partimage...etc.
Puedes hacerlo todo a pelo e instalarte los servicios:
dhcp - servir una ip cuando arranque por red
tftp - cargar la imagen de arranque, es lo que mostrará en pantalla al
arrancar por red pxe
nfs - poder subir imágenes, recuperarlas...
Y bajarte el clonezilla de su web propia pero no la .iso, sino la .zip
que viene con los archivos necesarios y googlear un poquito para saber
dónde tienes que dejar esos archivos.
O puedes usar este proyecto, que yo cuando lo probé hará 2 años fallaba
aveces, pero no tiene mala pinta. Es para hacer todo igual, pero
administrarlo via web.
http://www.fogproject.org/
Luego sé de otro proyecto llamado PING que también puede hacer todo
esto pero no lo he implementado. Yo probaría con drbl.
Espero te sirva.
Saludos.
El 2012-09-20 09:59, Mariano Cediel escribió:
El día 20 de septiembre de 2012 09:01, Trujillo Carmona, Antonio
antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es escribió:
¿Alguien sabe de algún sistema para organizar y distribuir imágenes
de
equipos por red?.
Ni que decir tiene que lo quiero con Debian (o como mínimo para
Linux).
La idea seria de poder meter los equipos estropeados en una vlan
(eso ya
lo tengo) y lo mas automático posible volver a pegarle la imagen del
disco.
Para el arranque y el pegado de imágenes creo que lo podre organizar
con
PXE y parted, lo que mas me interesa es saber si hay algo que lo
integre
todo y sobre todo que lo organice (base de datos etc)
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Re: Organización y distribución de imagenes por red
El Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:01:27 +0200, Trujillo Carmona, Antonio escribió: ¿Alguien sabe de algún sistema para organizar y distribuir imágenes de equipos por red?. Ni que decir tiene que lo quiero con Debian (o como mínimo para Linux). La idea seria de poder meter los equipos estropeados en una vlan (eso ya lo tengo) y lo mas automático posible volver a pegarle la imagen del disco. Para el arranque y el pegado de imágenes creo que lo podre organizar con PXE y parted, lo que mas me interesa es saber si hay algo que lo integre todo y sobre todo que lo organice (base de datos etc) Mi voto para Clonezilla, funciona muy bien, al menos en su versión LiveCD que es la que he probado. También podrías echar un vistazo a Mondo Rescue, tengo entendido que es un clásico para estas cosas. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3f6fc$ocp$2...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Posible problema al actualizar initrd
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 01:19:53PM +, Camaleón wrote: El Mon, 17 Sep 2012 19:50:17 +0200, Angel Vicente escribió: Llevo varios dias buscando como solucionar un problema que tengo al arrancar algunos de los nucleos que tengo instalados: tengo acualmente seis nucleos diferentes en /boot, algunos los he compilado yo y otros son instalados directamente desde los repositorios. Desde hace una semana o dos tengo el problema de que los nucleos a los que recientemente se ha actualizado el initrd que le corresponde, no son arrancables: siempre me sale el siguiente error ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/lista del uuid does not exist. (...) ¿Cómo has compilado el kernel? Lo compilo con make-kpkg, previamente preparo el .config con make menuconfig. Quizá generaste la imagen mal... Mira a ver si lo que te dice es cierto o no, es decir, si el identificador de la partición apunta al lugar correcto. Otro de los motivos habituales por los que aparece este mensaje es que te falte algún módulo de gestión del disco duro (sata, ahci... o alguno específico para tu controladora), o que no lo hayas compilado integrado sino como módulo, y no lo pueda cargar. Con lo que he observado puedo deducir que no seria el caso: el primer kernel que empezó a fallar fue uno que tenia funcional desde el mes de junio, el siguiente ha fallado desde el primer momento y está compilado en fechas posteriores a la de la observacion del fallo, es decir, en este ultimo si cabe la posibilidad que indicas, pero en el otro no. Puedes comparar los dos .config de los kernels (de uno que funcione y otro que no) para ver las diferencias :-? Normalmente reciclo los .config: copio de un kernel para la siguiente compilacion, y despues ajusto con make menuconfig, pero los he estado comparando y aparte de varios drivers de tarjetas de red retirados en el ultimo y tambien en el ultimo, la opcion CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CPU_AUTOPROBE, estan iguales Saludos, Saludos -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k39sdp$thl$2...@ger.gmane.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920154712.GA4007@angel.dominio.angel
Re: OT: Migrar la mente de un anciano que usaba Clipper 5.3
El 19/09/12 10:45, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió: - Original Message - From: Marc Olive marc.ol...@blauadvisors.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:54 AM Subject: Re: OT: Migrar la mente de un anciano que usaba Clipper 5.3 Muy bueno también, para mi son las 2 únicas opciones posibles. - PostgreSQL muy potente pero un poco más complicado de trabajar y mantener los sistemas. Con esto quiero decir que se necesita un especialista con conocimientos para que lo administre. - Menos potente (es decir con menos prestaciones de cosas, aunque yo en lo personal no he encontrado nada que no se pueda realizar con el), pero es muy seguro y muy simple de instalar y mantener. Se puede decir que trabaja solo. Saludos Reiterados = || ISMAEL || = Como alguna vez dije, mi opción, después de ver las alternativas, terminó siendo Python y PostgreSQL. JAP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b3b09.6090...@gmail.com
Re: Posible problema al actualizar initrd
El Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:47:12 +0200, Angel Vicente escribió: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 01:19:53PM +, Camaleón wrote: ¿Cómo has compilado el kernel? Lo compilo con make-kpkg, Es decir: fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=version kernel_imag ¿no? previamente preparo el .config con make menuconfig. Entonces generas un nuevo menú con cada compilación. Quizá generaste la imagen mal... Mira a ver si lo que te dice es cierto o no, es decir, si el identificador de la partición apunta al lugar correcto. Otro de los motivos habituales por los que aparece este mensaje es que te falte algún módulo de gestión del disco duro (sata, ahci... o alguno específico para tu controladora), o que no lo hayas compilado integrado sino como módulo, y no lo pueda cargar. Con lo que he observado puedo deducir que no seria el caso: el primer kernel que empezó a fallar fue uno que tenia funcional desde el mes de junio, ¿Y dejó de funcionar sin más? el siguiente ha fallado desde el primer momento y está compilado en fechas posteriores a la de la observacion del fallo, es decir, en este ultimo si cabe la posibilidad que indicas, pero en el otro no. Igualmente convendría que descartaras lo que te dice el mensaje de error (es decir, que el cargador de arranque apunta al disco/partición correcto), cosas más tontunas he visto. Puedes comparar los dos .config de los kernels (de uno que funcione y otro que no) para ver las diferencias :-? Normalmente reciclo los .config: copio de un kernel para la siguiente compilacion, y despues ajusto con make menuconfig, Una vez que ejecutas menuconfig y guardas los cambios sobreescribes (bueno, no, creo que lo renombra a .config.old) cualquier .config que tengas en la raíz donde están las fuentes, es decir, que te cargas todos los cambios que estuvieran en el .config original reutilziado. pero los he estado comparando y aparte de varios drivers de tarjetas de red retirados en el ultimo y tambien en el ultimo, la opcion CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_CPU_AUTOPROBE, estan iguales No creo que este valor te sirva para nada relacionado con los controladores del disco duro que sería lo que nos interesa ;-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3feht$ocp$1...@ger.gmane.org
Modificar imágenes de escaner en LibreOffice
Saludos al grupo. Esta duda me salió un tanto liberada. ¿Existe alguna forma de poder modificar una imagen obtenida de un de escáner en LibreOffice? O veamos si lo puedo plantear bien: inserto la hoja a escanear, uso la función, obtengo la imagen. Esa imagen ¿cómo la puedo modificar para obtener el texto en la misma posición del original? Quizás lo haya, pero no sé cómo plantear la pregunta en Google, por ello recurro de nuevo a la lista. -- Buen uso de las listas (como se ven en Debian): http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista Ayuda para hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://is.gd/NJIwRz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/calevjmtg5riaasduufsnqsss8+9rxlgkb9jc-uu3zx4ada_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Modificar imágenes de escaner en LibreOffice
El jue, 20-09-2012 a las 11:38 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió: Saludos al grupo. Esta duda me salió un tanto liberada. ¿Existe alguna forma de poder modificar una imagen obtenida de un de escáner en LibreOffice? O veamos si lo puedo plantear bien: inserto la hoja a escanear, uso la función, obtengo la imagen. Esa imagen ¿cómo la puedo modificar para obtener el texto en la misma posición del original? Quizás lo haya, pero no sé cómo plantear la pregunta en Google, por ello recurro de nuevo a la lista. lo que estás buscando se llama ocr (reconocimiento óptico de caracteres), no se si libreoffice puede hacer eso o no... pero en todo caso ya tenés como afinar la búsqueda -- (-.(-.(-.(-.(-.(-.-).-).-).-).-).-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1348157799.2521.12.ca...@eeepc.ucasal.ar
Re: Modificar imágenes de escaner en LibreOffice
El Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:38:52 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió: Saludos al grupo. Esta duda me salió un tanto liberada. ¿Existe alguna forma de poder modificar una imagen obtenida de un de escáner en LibreOffice? O veamos si lo puedo plantear bien: inserto la hoja a escanear, uso la función, obtengo la imagen. Esa imagen ¿cómo la puedo modificar para obtener el texto en la misma posición del original? Quizás lo haya, pero no sé cómo plantear la pregunta en Google, por ello recurro de nuevo a la lista. Si necesitas manipular la imagen lo normal es que lo hagas dos pasos: edición (con importación) e inserción. Puedes capturar la imagen desde un programa de retoque fotográfico (como The GIMP) que soporte TWAIN y que te permita hacer los cambios que necesites (voltear, espejar -vaya palabro- añadir textos, alterar tonos...). Después guardas la imagen con los cambios y la insertas en LibreOffice. Más que nada porque las opciones de manipulación de imágenes que te ofrece LO no son muy avanzadas. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3ffsp$ocp$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Posible problema al actualizar initrd
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 03:59:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: El Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:47:12 +0200, Angel Vicente escribió: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 01:19:53PM +, Camaleón wrote: ¿Cómo has compilado el kernel? Lo compilo con make-kpkg, Es decir: fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=version kernel_imag ¿no? Si previamente preparo el .config con make menuconfig. Entonces generas un nuevo menú con cada compilación. Reviso el .config del kernel anterior, generalmente no hay grandes cambios Quizá generaste la imagen mal... Mira a ver si lo que te dice es cierto o no, es decir, si el identificador de la partición apunta al lugar correcto. Otro de los motivos habituales por los que aparece este mensaje es que te falte algún módulo de gestión del disco duro (sata, ahci... o alguno específico para tu controladora), o que no lo hayas compilado integrado sino como módulo, y no lo pueda cargar. Con lo que he observado puedo deducir que no seria el caso: el primer kernel que empezó a fallar fue uno que tenia funcional desde el mes de junio, ¿Y dejó de funcionar sin más? No estoy seguro, pero creo que fue despues de actualizar algun paquete que desencadeno el update-initramfs. el siguiente ha fallado desde el primer momento y está compilado en fechas posteriores a la de la observacion del fallo, es decir, en este ultimo si cabe la posibilidad que indicas, pero en el otro no. Igualmente convendría que descartaras lo que te dice el mensaje de error (es decir, que el cargador de arranque apunta al disco/partición correcto), cosas más tontunas he visto. Puedes comparar los dos .config de los kernels (de uno que funcione y otro que no) para ver las diferencias :-? Normalmente reciclo los .config: copio de un kernel para la siguiente compilacion, y despues ajusto con make menuconfig, Una vez que ejecutas menuconfig y guardas los cambios sobreescribes (bueno, no, creo que lo renombra a .config.old) cualquier .config que tengas en la raíz donde están las fuentes, es decir, que te cargas todos los cambios que estuvieran en el .config original reutilziado. He arrancado con un CD de rescate y chequeado las particiones, como indicaba el compañero Daniel, no se han hallado errores y los arranques siguen haciendo lo mismo. Transcribo los errores de udev como sugeria el compañero Juan Antonio (mis disculpas por no habe leido antes su mensaje) udevd[357]: error getting socket: Address family not supported by protocol error initializing udev control socket (este mensaje sale dos veces seguidas) udevd[357]: error getting socket: Address family no supported by protocol udevadm[364]: error getting socket: Address family not suported by protocol ¿Es posible que el error este relacionado con udev?, el udev lo actualice, pero fue en agosto, no creo que tenga que ver. Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920162835.GA3773@angel.dominio.angel
Re: Posible problema al actualizar initrd
El Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:28:35 +0200, Angel Vicente escribió: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 03:59:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: (..) ¿Y dejó de funcionar sin más? No estoy seguro, pero creo que fue despues de actualizar algun paquete que desencadeno el update-initramfs. (...) Hum... ¿has intentado iniciar el sistema directa y manualmente desde GRUB2? Esto te podría dar más pistas sobre el origen del problema. Tienes una guía con los pasos aquí: http://forums.justlinux.com/showthread.php?152790-How-to-use-Grub2-to-boot-Linux-manually He arrancado con un CD de rescate y chequeado las particiones, como indicaba el compañero Daniel, no se han hallado errores y los arranques siguen haciendo lo mismo. Transcribo los errores de udev como sugeria el compañero Juan Antonio (mis disculpas por no habe leido antes su mensaje) udevd[357]: error getting socket: Address family not supported by protocol error initializing udev control socket (este mensaje sale dos veces seguidas) udevd[357]: error getting socket: Address family no supported by protocol udevadm[364]: error getting socket: Address family not suported by protocol ¿Es posible que el error este relacionado con udev?, el udev lo actualice, pero fue en agosto, no creo que tenga que ver. A ver... con ese mensaje en concreto no creo tenga relación tu problema, pero sí recuerdo que en las notas de la versión de Squeeze indicaban que en algunos casos concretos había que iniciar el kernel con el parámetro rootdelay=9 para darle tiempo a la partición raíz para que se montara pero no sé, este argumento parece un poco cogido con pinzas aunque probarlo no te costará nada. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3fhkr$ocp$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: OT: Migrar la mente de un anciano que usaba Clipper 5.3
El 19/09/12 10:45, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió: - Original Message - From: Marc Olive marc.ol...@blauadvisors.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:54 AM Subject: Re: OT: Migrar la mente de un anciano que usaba Clipper 5.3 Muy bueno también, para mi son las 2 únicas opciones posibles. - PostgreSQL muy potente pero un poco más complicado de trabajar y mantener los sistemas. Con esto quiero decir que se necesita un especialista con conocimientos para que lo administre. - Menos potente (es decir con menos prestaciones de cosas, aunque yo en lo personal no he encontrado nada que no se pueda realizar con el), pero es muy seguro y muy simple de instalar y mantener. Se puede decir que trabaja solo. Saludos Reiterados = || ISMAEL || = Como alguna vez dije, mi opción, después de ver las alternativas, terminó siendo Python y PostgreSQL. JAP Debo acotar algo que se me fue en el mensaje anterior. El punto 2 se refiere a Firebird, ósea el de menos prestaciones que PostgreSQL. Para mi los 2 son opciones excelentes, a la hora de escoger. Pues el más que te guste o con el que más comodo te sientas. Saludos Reiterados = || ISMAEL || = PD: Eso sí, el que se dedique a mi mundo (desarrollo de soft) los debe conocer todos o el mayor número posible, ya que a veces el cliente te exige un motor de base de datos determinado. Y el cliente siempre tiene la razón. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/f5a6acc517ae49aa94c8f23898e7c...@eicc.citricos.cu
Re: Modificar imágenes de escaner en LibreOffice
El 20/09/12 13:08, Miguel Matos escribió: Saludos al grupo. Esta duda me salió un tanto liberada. ¿Existe alguna forma de poder modificar una imagen obtenida de un de escáner en LibreOffice? O veamos si lo puedo plantear bien: inserto la hoja a escanear, uso la función, obtengo la imagen. Esa imagen ¿cómo la puedo modificar para obtener el texto en la misma posición del original? Quizás lo haya, pero no sé cómo plantear la pregunta en Google, por ello recurro de nuevo a la lista. http://latam.abbyy.com/finereader/ JAP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b6695.7050...@gmail.com
Re: Modificar imágenes de escaner en LibreOffice
El 20/09/12 13:08, Miguel Matos escribió: Saludos al grupo. Esta duda me salió un tanto liberada. ¿Existe alguna forma de poder modificar una imagen obtenida de un de escáner en LibreOffice? O veamos si lo puedo plantear bien: inserto la hoja a escanear, uso la función, obtengo la imagen. Esa imagen ¿cómo la puedo modificar para obtener el texto en la misma posición del original? Quizás lo haya, pero no sé cómo plantear la pregunta en Google, por ello recurro de nuevo a la lista. http://openoffice-ocr-pdf.fyxm.net/ JAP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b66eb@gmail.com
Re: Posible problema al actualizar initrd
El 20/09/12 13:52, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:28:35 +0200, Angel Vicente escribió: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 03:59:57PM +, Camaleón wrote: (..) ¿Y dejó de funcionar sin más? No estoy seguro, pero creo que fue despues de actualizar algun paquete que desencadeno el update-initramfs. (...) Hum... ¿has intentado iniciar el sistema directa y manualmente desde GRUB2? Esto te podría dar más pistas sobre el origen del problema. Tienes una guía con los pasos aquí: http://forums.justlinux.com/showthread.php?152790-How-to-use-Grub2-to-boot-Linux-manually He arrancado con un CD de rescate y chequeado las particiones, como indicaba el compañero Daniel, no se han hallado errores y los arranques siguen haciendo lo mismo. Transcribo los errores de udev como sugeria el compañero Juan Antonio (mis disculpas por no habe leido antes su mensaje) udevd[357]: error getting socket: Address family not supported by protocol error initializing udev control socket (este mensaje sale dos veces seguidas) udevd[357]: error getting socket: Address family no supported by protocol udevadm[364]: error getting socket: Address family not suported by protocol ¿Es posible que el error este relacionado con udev?, el udev lo actualice, pero fue en agosto, no creo que tenga que ver. A ver... con ese mensaje en concreto no creo tenga relación tu problema, pero sí recuerdo que en las notas de la versión de Squeeze indicaban que en algunos casos concretos había que iniciar el kernel con el parámetro rootdelay=9 para darle tiempo a la partición raíz para que se montara pero no sé, este argumento parece un poco cogido con pinzas aunque probarlo no te costará nada. Saludos, Saludos lista. He estado leyendo los mensajes, y les cuento que me pasó algo parecido, cuando instalaba paquetes relacionados con el HD, (cryptsetup, por ejemplo) y no podía, por alguna razón, iniciar el sistema por causa de algo mal en el initramfs. Si tienes algún paquete de ese tipo, o instalaste algun driver, o algo que utilice el initramfs, podría ser la causa. Otros paquetes pueden relacionarse con dispositivos que requieran funcionar en el initramfs, como alguna placa de red, etc. Fijate con aptitude. Busca el paquete initramfs-tools y en los paquetes que dependen de él o lo sugieren tendrás pistas. En caso de deducir el paquete, lo desinstalas y pruevas con algún kernel que no funcione. saludos. -- Cuando tus fuerzas terminan, las de Dios comienzan... attachment: francipvb.vcf
Nerladdnings länkar funkar inte
Vet inte vad det beror på, men nerladdninglänkarna på sidan http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ verkar inte fungera. Hinner just nu inte undersöka vidare. -- /Rolf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cadt_qgsuk9k5-ajo8xzzjyxr_vtkjczuoxy5t2jzvmblsn7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Nerladdnings länkar funkar inte
Den 20 september 2012 18:43 skrev Anton Eliasson de...@antoneliasson.se: On 2012-09-20 13:06, Rolf Edlund wrote: Vet inte vad det beror på, men nerladdninglänkarna på sidan http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ verkar inte fungera. Hinner just nu inte undersöka vidare. Rapporterat till ansvariga (på IRC-kanalen #debian-boot). Det bör vara fixat inom kort. Bra! Såg nu att dom funkar på den nya orginalsidan. men inte på den svenska sidan. Antagligen där problemet ligger. Att orginalsidan är nyare än vår svenska sida. Många sidor blir det.. :) Ha det bäst. -- /Rolf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CADT_QgsXbkZSZJ=boEoogQ229feOxLb=Vh1CxVECzJXqX8u=t...@mail.gmail.com
Re: saída de som via HDMI
Em 13-09-2012 21:32, Bruno Schneider escreveu: Estou com um Debian Testing (Wheezy) notebook LG S425 e alguns problemas. Não consigo fazer o som funcionar via HDMI. A imagem funciona direitinho mas o som não. O som sai pelo auto falante do notebook mesmo, o que não é bom. Achei na lista uma mensagem antiga do Fernando Henrique Toledo e nenhuma resposta. Alguém pode ajudar? Tive problema igual, esta semana, quando precisei conectar meu notebook a TV via HDMI. Resolvi o meu problema com da seguinte forma: echo 'pcm.!default hdmi:Intel' /etc/asound.conf Não tive tempo para aprofundar-me sobre a configuração e compreendê-la, coisa que ainda pretendo fazer. E se alguém puder indicar documentação, fico grato. Atenciosamente, -- Ednardo Lobo www.lobo.eti.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50586ce9.1000...@lobo.eti.br
Re: Acesso web caindo nas maquinas clientes
Poisé até agora não caiu mais, mas o servidor continua a consumir muita memória. Sabe se é normal o bind e squid usarem em torno de 300mb cada serviço? Att. Em 19 de setembro de 2012 09:54, Gabriel Ricardo gricard...@gmail.comescreveu: é, o buraco é mais fundo. tenta verificar no log do squid, syslog, dmesg se relata alguma coisa na hora que ocorre a queda. Atenciosamente, *Gabriel Ricardo.* www.tinotapa.com.br Em 19 de setembro de 2012 09:35, John Martius hax0...@gmail.comescreveu: Olá Gabriel, Não achei problema com isso, mas segue a saida do comando: $ df -i Sist. Arq.Inodes IUsed IFree IUse% Montado em /dev/sda11222992 179860 1043132 15% / tmpfs 506776 5 5067711% /lib/init/rw udev 505566 622 5049441% /dev tmpfs 506776 1 5067751% /dev/shm /dev/sda613066240 26590 130396501% /home Em 19 de setembro de 2012 09:30, Gabriel Ricardo gricard...@gmail.comescreveu: já verificou os inodes da maquina?? df -i Atenciosamente, *Gabriel Ricardo.* www.tinotapa.com.br Em 19 de setembro de 2012 08:36, John Martius hax0...@gmail.comescreveu: Olá pessoal, Notei que as vezes está caindo o acesso web nas maquinas clientes da rede. Porem, neste tempo, no servidor eu consigo acessar páginas (testei com o w3m). Então reiniciando o squid (proxy transparente), volta a funcionar o acesso web. Outra coisa que verifiquei é o alto consumo de memória: $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 3959 3925 33 0177 3132 -/+ buffers/cache:616 3343 Swap:15257 1 15256 Os serviços executados são: dhcp, iptables, squid, samba e tomcat (com openjdk). Alguem pode me ajudar com esse problema? Att. John
Re: Satellite P870 issues - Video + ethernet [SOLVED]
On 09/17/2012 10:41 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: Is the GT630M not supported? Yes it is supported. The methods I found for trying to switch did not work. What I tried was to blacklist the i915 driver, load the nvidia driver with the modeset=1 option. --julian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505ab7a6.8020...@jdcomputers.com.au
Mplayer-gui error
Hi, I just updated mplayer with the official ppa from http://www.deb-multimedia.org , but the package mplayer-gui broke and it can't install now :( Please see my error message here - http://www.sendspace.com/file/jlys9a Thanks for all help
IA64 or AMD64?
Hello. I have a HP proliant DL580 G5 server with 4 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7330 @ 2.40GHz processors. What architecture port I've to install, IA64 or AMD64? Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAE17a0Xz1bCHKFMW8jCa=eTTvtZ0Y2_-srZUATHoNGGYWoW=n...@mail.gmail.com
Re: IA64 or AMD64?
20.09.2012 09:44, Mauro: I have a HP proliant DL580 G5 server with 4 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7330 @ 2.40GHz processors. What architecture port I've to install, IA64 or AMD64? AMD64. IA64 is for Itanium processors. You'd know if you had one. -- Regards mks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505acb6b.2040...@list-post.mks-mail.de
Re: Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
I once had an USB stick with a broken controller and couldn't partitioning it anymore. It was brand new, gets broken at the day when I used it the first time. It was warranted and I got another USB stick. Perhaps your drive isn't broken, but one cannot rule out the possibility that it's defect. I would test different USB slots and another, very short USB cable. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.wkxcsvofqhadp0@suse11-2
Re: IA64 or AMD64?
On 20 September 2012 09:53, Markus Schönhaber debian-u...@list-post.mks-mail.de wrote: 20.09.2012 09:44, Mauro: I have a HP proliant DL580 G5 server with 4 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7330 @ 2.40GHz processors. What architecture port I've to install, IA64 or AMD64? AMD64. IA64 is for Itanium processors. You'd know if you had one. Ok, thank you, I have only Xeon processors. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAE17a0VDG2u=5pmenbrwaag_h31trj667a2gxc6w1jtog1v...@mail.gmail.com
Re: FN Key to Enable/Disable Touchpad
On Mi, 19 sep 12, 20:56:26, Dr Beco wrote: Sorry the delay, I was very busy these days. I tried xev, and here is what I got. I run the program, press once FN+F3, and quit. A lot of output, though... [...] KeyRelease event, serial 41, synthetic NO, window 0x541, root 0xaf, subw 0x0, time 5589764, (607,535), root:(609,558), state 0x0, keycode 199 (keysym 0x1008ffa9, XF86TouchpadToggle), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False Looks good. Now all that's left is to look up where the other keys are configured and add it there. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installation
On Mi, 19 sep 12, 23:52:22, lee wrote: No, and I don't need to test them all because Cameleon said always: It takes only one which is different to disprove her. So the point is to win an argument rather than do a meaningful test? Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
On Mi, 19 sep 12, 23:28:37, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Warning: invalid flag 0x of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) Have a look in the syslog for any errors during the create. Make sure the drive has sufficient power. Try partitioning it from a different computer. You could also wipe the first few sectors with dd, maybe there's garbage there. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy
Lionel Trésaugues lionel.tresaug...@gmail.com writes: First, thanks all of you to try to solve the issue I encounter with Debian. I will come back now to some of the points you mentioned in the discussion. How important is it to you to be able to run Debian? Would it be worth some spectacles, or some new ones if you already wear them? (This solution worked for me.) Have you tried any of the rpm distros? I can live with other distributions than Debian, but I would like to use it as a base to setup a very lightweight working environment. You can probably have that with other distributions as well. I found that the Ubuntu distribution contain a lot of extra-tools that I would not need, and their use in cpu resources is slightly higher than pure Debian (on the same hardware). Then don't install these tools or don't use them. What do you actually need? A window manager like fvwm or a tiling one like i3? Something like gnome or kde or xfce? Nothing has really changed. This phenomenon appeared as soon as I started to boot into fresh Debian installation. A minimum refresh rate of 72Hz is recommended (same as average human heart rate) to minimize optical discomfort that you seem to be suffering. Less than that the screen will often jump about and make it difficult to see properly. See if you can do something about that. I am running Ubuntu-based distro at 60Hz (on the same hardware) without experiencing this problem. So it comes down to figure out what the difference between Debian and Ubuntu is in that regard. You could show us some screen shots, one from Debian, one from Ubuntu, showing the same thing (like a web page in a web browser or whatever application you use most of the time). Perhaps someone notices a difference. Do the fonts look different in Debian? If so, in which way? If they do, you could try to find out how they are rendered and try to have them rendered the same in Debian. The fonts (with the same hinting and antialiasing settings) look very slightly blurrier on Debian than on Ubuntu. So that is one difference, and it can be what causes your troubles. Are you using the same fonts? Can you show us some screen shots and perhaps a magnified part of the screen, produced with something like xmag? Maybe looking at things through xmag reveals something that isn't visible without magnification. Well, actually, I don't think the fonts might be the main reason. Because the phenomenon seems to be very subjective, I tried to explore this idea because I knew some major differences in how Debian and Ubuntu deal with fonts existed. But the unpleasant feeling is present (even if not so intense), just by looking at the background of an empty desktop. It seems that the light is too intense, too violent (even when I reduce the brightness) and that my eyes keep on adjusting the focus with no interruption in an almost imperceptible manner. Are you using the same desktop backgrounds with the different distributions? this. I mean, if I agree that we can't exclude the personal preference issue, I am not physically allergic to the Debian environment ;) Maybe you are ;) Mmmm... At a first glance I see nothing wrong from the xrandr output, I mean, technically speaking both resolution and refresh rate values are right. Yes. Me neither. The only parameter I couldn't check (due to my lack of knowledge) is the horizontal refresh rate. Any idea how I can get this value ? Entries in /var/log/Xorg.0.log might give you some hints. If you're using the NVIDIA drivers, you can use the nvidia-settings program to modify some settings. -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r4pxiiar@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi raju.mailingli...@gmail.com writes: lee wrote: There are some warnings when I tried to use fdisk to create a new empty DOS partition table. Do you know how to eliminate the warning? $fdisk -v fdisk (util-linux 2.20.1) $sudo fdisk /dev/sdb Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0x14879ac2. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable. Warning: invalid flag 0x of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) Command (m for help): p Disk /dev/sdb: 750.2 GB, 750156372992 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders, total 1465149166 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x14879ac2 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System Command (m for help): m Command action a toggle a bootable flag b edit bsd disklabel c toggle the dos compatibility flag d delete a partition l list known partition types m print this menu n add a new partition o create a new empty DOS partition table p print the partition table q quit without saving changes s create a new empty Sun disklabel t change a partition's system id u change display/entry units v verify the partition table w write table to disk and exit x extra functionality (experts only) Command (m for help): o Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0xe3c60b5a. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable. Warning: invalid flag 0x of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) Command (m for help): w The partition table has been altered! Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. Syncing disks. So, I wrote the partition table but the warning keeps coming back if I run fdisk again. $sudo fdisk /dev/sdb Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0x2c2ba04d. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable. Warning: invalid flag 0x of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) Command (m for help): q Now that's interesting. It looks like either the new partition you have been writing hasn't actually been written to the disk, or the kernel didn't realise that the partition table has changed. What do you mean reboot after creating partitions? This is an external hard drive that does not have any OS. So how can I reboot from it? Do you mean disconnect and reconnect? What I mean is reboot the computer (not boot from the new disk you're trying to partition, just reboot it normally). So: 1.) write the new partition table 2.) reboot the computer and run fdisk again and see if it still says the same If it still says the same, I'd try to connect the disk to an SATA port and try it again. If it still doesn't work, return it. Or don't go the lengths of connecting it to SATA and just return it ... 2) Is msdos a valid option to choose for this hard drive? Is msdos a useful partition type for you? Try Linux, and if it works, you can try to change it to msdos. There is no Linux option. In gparted - Device - Create Partition Table - Advanced - Select new partition table type, the available choices are msdos, aix, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, pc98, sun, loop Hmmm, I don't know --- I found I need to read up about partition table types and didn't get to do it yet. What I had in mind is the partition type code which applies to partitions and not to partition tables. -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87boh1i6zh@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?
Rob Owens row...@ptd.net writes: On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 05:30:29PM +0200, lee wrote: Rob Owens row...@ptd.net writes: Looks like gecko-mediaplayer is the replacement for mozilla-mplayer. Testing it now... Let me guess: It doesn't work. I couldn't get it to work, but I may have gotten a lead. Several web articles talk about using FlashVideoReplacer add-on for Firefox (which looks like it no longer exists), or a Greasemonkey script (so far I haven't found one that works) in conjunction with one of these media plugins. Apparently the add-on or Greasemonkey script is required in order to 1) tell the website that flash is installed, even though it may not be, and 2) grab the flash file and display it with mplayer, vlc, or something else. It also seems from my reading that the scripts that handle this may be specific to particular websites, and may need updating as those websites change the way they do things. I don't have time to look into it any more right now, but maybe that'll help you in your quest. Thank you! It doesn't seem to reasonably lead to anywhere. Maintaining a library of scripts that deal with particular websites which even continue to change how they present the videos to break such scripts isn't something I would want to do, and I don't understand why websites which are there to let people watch videos attempt to make watching them so difficult for people that they can't watch the videos in the first place. Maybe I'll just remove this gecko plugin; there's no point in having it installed when it doesn't work or when it doesn't do anything. Why are people creating plugins that don't work or don't do anything? -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87vcf9ijkw@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: Installation
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes: On Mi, 19 sep 12, 23:52:22, lee wrote: No, and I don't need to test them all because Cameleon said always: It takes only one which is different to disprove her. So the point is to win an argument rather than do a meaningful test? No, the point is that someone says something which isn't true, and I know from my own experience that it isn't. I don't need to make any tests for that. -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877grphyvr@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: Installation
Celejar cele...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:29:18 +0200 lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Not familiar with gimp or x3; sorry. You never used gimp? X3 is a game --- could be really awesome if it wasn't so buggy. -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ipb9i9wf@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: Installation
Celejar cele...@gmail.com writes: If you have an OEM license, it can't be transferred to a different PC: http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/pages/licensing_for_hobbyists.aspx Why not? I haven't signed any agreement with them. -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87mx0liabr@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: Installation
On Jo, 20 sep 12, 06:31:52, lee wrote: Celejar cele...@gmail.com writes: If you have an OEM license, it can't be transferred to a different PC: http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/pages/licensing_for_hobbyists.aspx Why not? I haven't signed any agreement with them. You agreed to the EULA on install or first boot, same thing. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?
On Jo, 20 sep 12, 03:11:59, lee wrote: Thank you! It doesn't seem to reasonably lead to anywhere. Maintaining a library of scripts that deal with particular websites which even continue to change how they present the videos to break such scripts isn't something I would want to do, and I don't understand why websites which are there to let people watch videos attempt to make watching them so difficult for people that they can't watch the videos in the first place. Hanlon's razor applies here as well. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy
On Ma, 18 sep 12, 23:31:21, Lionel Trésaugues wrote: Hello, I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my computer running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions (such as Mint LMDE, XFCE or MATE edition). Switching from XFCE to MATE doesn't lead to any improvements . Have you tried just a plain console? Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Wheezy managesieve segfault
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:30:08 +0200 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: your bug report is not yet there. It's now filed, I also got an reply: tags 688197 + pending confirmed thanks It's a known bug and it's already fixed in the package git repository. The next upload will contain the fix. Regards, Marco Best regards Denis Witt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920113701.2610c65c@X200
Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy
On 9/19/ LCDs do not flicker. I *explicitly* did not say flicker. I do not mean flicker. Flicker is perceptible to the viewer. Minitors *do* refresh. They do not all refresh at the same rate. The OP is complaining of eye-strain and headaches. These are real, and quite reasonably he would like to do something about it. They could easily be explained by a tiny difference, far too tiny to be perceptible, or even easily measurable. This is the second time that you have contradicted me with the same irrelevant comment, without offering anything constructive. Nihilism is not going to solve the problem for the OP. Lisi Nihilism? Apparently, you don't understand the comment. LCD do not refresh in the same sense as CRTs. They project a continuous picture. If a pixel doesn't change, it stays lit. No fading. OPs problem is not due to refresh, unless it is a CRT. His problem is probably due to environmental factors. E.g. display too bright, viewing angle causing neck strain, or eye strain, color balance/gamma subtly off, etc. You are obsessed with refresh rate, but it's a useless thing to focus on, because refresh rate is about flicker, and LCDs don't flicker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b09b2.2090...@allums.com
Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy
On 9/19/2012 6:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2012-09-20 at 00:03 +0100, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 19 September 2012 23:38:48 Mark Allums wrote: On 9/19/2012 5:33 PM, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 19 September 2012 22:40:30 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: Yes. Me neither. The only parameter I couldn't check (due to my lack of knowledge) is the horizontal refresh rate. Any idea how I can get this value ? I still feel that a very minor difference in the refresh rates might be at the root of the problem, but do not know how to check this. (I really do mean minor: not large enough to be actually perceptible to you.) Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than I might know how to investigate this. It probably depends on HAL - perhaps there is some minor difference in the versions of HAL in the different distros. Lisi LCDs do not flicker. I *explicitly* did not say flicker. I do not mean flicker. Flicker is perceptible to the viewer. Minitors *do* refresh. They do not all refresh at the same rate. The OP is complaining of eye-strain and headaches. These are real, and quite reasonably he would like to do something about it. They could easily be explained by a tiny difference, far too tiny to be perceptible, or even easily measurable. This is the second time that you have contradicted me with the same irrelevant comment, without offering anything constructive. Nihilism is not going to solve the problem for the OP. The refresh rate doesn't matter that much. If something changed than it has to be changed, if nothing changed, than nothing happens. For a tube monitor the picture is turned off and on and off and on. A LCD display is always on. just by looking at the background of an empty desktop. It seems that the light is too intense, too violent (even when I reduce the brightness) and that my eyes keep on adjusting the focus with no interruption in an almost imperceptible manner. I suspect a wrong sub-pixel order for the fonts. If you look long enough at the bad fonts, then perhaps even a blank background that is ok, seems to be bad. Yes, an incorrect setting on the subpixel rendering might cause eyestrain. Getting the RGB ordering in the right order would be helpful. Good suggestion. On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 16:22 -0600, Shane Johnson wrote: Just a wild stab in the Dark here, could it be interlaced? Computers don't use fields, so there only would be an effect for interlaced videos, if no deinterlacing is done, but for the desktop there is no interlace. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b0a99.2040...@allums.com
Re: Bug#687804: installation-reports: users are not able to review external documentation while stuck in the installer
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 07:58:36PM +0200, lee wrote: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes: The installer (in expert mode) supports an ssh client on an alternative VT, afaik. One can connect to another machine with stuff already installed via this if necessary. Surely this is sufficient to address the request. It requires you to have a computer you can connect to, and it is exactly the need to have another working computer before installing Debian on one which I would like to see eliminated. I see. Is this a genuine need, or a hypothetical one? In my experience, the kind of people who might desire a working environment during an install are the types of power users likely to have a few machines lying around. Personally, I think you should just finish the install and use the machine you're installing to. A perfect excuse to go and read a book for 10 minutes or so. Or can I connect to yours any time I might need to? Can I put software on some storage media like a CD or DVD with that without having to come around to pick it up? Of course you couldn't. In case I do have another working computer, I don't need ssh to connect to it. It's easier for me to use it directly. That rules out access to a remote server such as a VPS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920124435.GC17882@debian
Re: EXIM in Debian
Do you need split configuration? Are you wedded to it? My advice would be to copy /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated to /etc/exim4.conf, at which point the Debian exim configuration is overridden, and just edit that one file instead. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920124752.GD17882@debian
Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy
On Thursday 20 September 2012 13:18:58 Mark Allums wrote: On 9/19/ LCDs do not flicker. I *explicitly* did not say flicker. I do not mean flicker. Flicker is perceptible to the viewer. Minitors *do* refresh. They do not all refresh at the same rate. The OP is complaining of eye-strain and headaches. These are real, and quite reasonably he would like to do something about it. They could easily be explained by a tiny difference, far too tiny to be perceptible, or even easily measurable. This is the second time that you have contradicted me with the same irrelevant comment, without offering anything constructive. Nihilism is not going to solve the problem for the OP. Lisi Nihilism? Apparently, you don't understand the comment. LCD do not refresh in the same sense as CRTs. They project a continuous picture. If a pixel doesn't change, it stays lit. No fading. OPs problem is not due to refresh, unless it is a CRT. His problem is probably due to environmental factors. E.g. display too bright, viewing angle causing neck strain, or eye strain, color balance/gamma subtly off, etc. You are obsessed with refresh rate, but it's a useless thing to focus on, because refresh rate is about flicker, and LCDs don't flicker. LCDs do not flicker. I also used a Samsung SyncMaster (recognized as *CRT* by nvidia-settings) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209201355.51118.lisi.re...@gmail.com
force_igmp_status does not work
Hi all, I am tryng to use the command : echo 2 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/force_igmp_version under my Debian 6.0 distribution but it does not work. I tried also : echo 2 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/default/force_igmp_version echo 2 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/force_igmp_version But without success, any suggestion ? Thanks, Pietro Paolini.
Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy
On Jo, 20 sep 12, 07:18:58, Mark Allums wrote: LCD do not refresh in the same sense as CRTs. They project a continuous picture. If a pixel doesn't change, it stays lit. No fading. OPs problem is not due to refresh, unless it is a CRT. His problem is probably due to environmental factors. E.g. display too bright, viewing angle causing neck strain, or eye strain, color balance/gamma subtly off, etc. You are obsessed with refresh rate, but it's a useless thing to focus on, because refresh rate is about flicker, and LCDs don't flicker. I have however seen LCD monitors behave significantly different depending on refresh rate. Entire areas were blury, but everything was fine when I switched to another refresh rate (60Hz - 75Hz if I remember correctly). Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: force_igmp_status does not work
20.09.2012 15:34, Pietro Paolini: I am tryng to use the command : echo 2 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/force_igmp_version under my Debian 6.0 distribution but it does not work. I tried also : echo 2 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/default/force_igmp_version echo 2 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/force_igmp_version But without success, any suggestion ? Yes, some: 1. Don't hijack threads. If you want to start a new topic, create a completely *new* mail to debian-user@lists.debian.org. Do not simply reply to a totally unrelated message, because regardless if you change the subject line or not, your mailer will (or at least should) do as it is told and create a reply to this message. 2. Don't use terms like without success or does not work. Rather tell us what *exactly* happened (program output, console output etc.). 3. Try something like sysctl net.ipv4.conf.eth0.force_igmp_version=2 You'll have to be root to be allowed to do this (applies to what you tried, too). -- Regards mks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b2186.5060...@list-post.mks-mail.de
Re: ntpd crashes.
with ntpd crashes on my server. Time jumps forward one hour every time this has happened. However I'm not convinced it's the hardware causing Sounds like something is causing the one-hour jump, and that in turns causes ntpd to go bonkers. As for what causes this jump, I don't know. Some cron job, maybe? No I have no cron jobs. Not sure what else it can be. The one-hour difference suggests it might be linked to time-zone or DST issues, maybe some code that syncs up the internal time with some external (could be an RTC) clock? Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jwvd31gztdh.fsf-monnier+gmane.linux.debian.u...@gnu.org
Re: force_igmp_status does not work
On Jo, 20 sep 12, 13:34:57, Pietro Paolini wrote: Hi all, I am tryng to use the command : echo 2 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/force_igmp_version under my Debian 6.0 distribution but it does not work. I tried also : echo 2 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/default/force_igmp_version echo 2 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/force_igmp_version But without success, any suggestion ? Two actually: 1. Start a new thread, don't reply to some random e-mail in another thread. This increases the visibility of your message. 2. Post the relevant error messages or syslog entries (if any) or at least specify if there aren't any Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What is playing videos in web browsers?
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:27:35 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: There is also the possibility that they come up with a new version for other OSs. They could add features in the new version that make it impossible to play videos which are compatible with the new version with the old one. Once the old version is incompatible, there's no point in continuing to provide security updates for it. Should that happens, you will have to choose: looking for a proper replacement of the plugin or simply avoid sites that make use of an unsupported feature in your system. And that isn't a good situation. Sadly, we can't be sure on what the future will provide, so worrying know is useless and wasteful. The only we can do is having a Plan B, that's all. Well, there's not point in worrying about it. We'll see what happens. I never liked the Flash Player concept: it simply breaks the way html stands for. Anyway, which today standards in our hands, I do not see much future for what Flash Player is currently designed for and provides. Maybe it was nice and cool (sigh) 10 years ago but not know (and needless to say it's buggy as hell). That didn't prevent it from becoming widely used. Almost nobody likes it, everyone uses it, and if you want to watch videos, you can't without. Sure, that's why I have it installed but again, the fact is widely spread is not in my hands. The big question is: what would happen should Adobe Flash Player starts breaking _now_ for Linux? I wouldn't miss it, that's for sure, so if you ask me, I wish Adobe stopped their Linux flash support *today* because that will force me to find an alternative solution. The main advantage (so to speak) I see for this plugin is that it's that self-compacted (a unique .so file) that installing it is very easy (a couple of clicks). Uh? Can you please point to a site where Adobe Flash Player does not work? This sort of problems are generated by wrong html coding for embedding the Flash Player plugin, nothing Adobe Flash Player can solve. I don't have it installed anymore and I can't find one of these sites atm. Fine, then problem solved :-) It's awful, with gnash and vlc and the built-in player installed, there's no way to tell what the browser attempts to use to play something. Try [1] maybe, it opens a player (vlc maybe, it doesn't look like gnash) and says I don't have a divx codec installed. Try it a second time and it doesn't say that anymore. I'm sure if I could download the video I could play it just fine with mplayer or vlc. The source code of the URL has/points to none swf file so whataver problem you face with it in seems unrelated to the Flash Player plugin. Ok, then how do I do that? I usually go to Google and search for it :-) Well, I tried that years ago and just tried it again and still didn't find a solution. You seem to know how to do it since you say there's no problem with it, so maybe you can enlighten us by telling us how to. (...) Better that you first start saying what you have tested and in what way it failed for you, don't you think? But again, as I already said, my only recommendation for dealing with flash based websites is using the crappy Flash Player plugin from Adobe until it completely dissapears from the face of the Earth (hope this happens soon...). Greeitngs, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3f835$ocp$3...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Installation
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:15:31 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:52:14 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: And what about the users who *don't* want to learn, they just want to have and use a working computer? (...) As I already mentioned, they should go for something that suit their needs, like a tablet or something prebuilt that provides the less hassle to their minds. Linux (as we know) is not for them (or yes, but then it has to be properly packaged, managed, delivered and supported by Google or any other company). Why would it have to be taken over by a company? That wouldn't remove the need for learning. Because companies have the necessary resources to provide the kind of support a newbie requires (e.g., IBM, HP, RedHat, Canonical or SUSE are good examples for this). No user-driven mailing list can help these kind of newbies in the same way that a company does, if someone told you so it wasn't being sincere. Because Windows OEM installations are always -regardless the version- quick and take little time but we are not talking here about this, you know... No, they aren't. By your replies I can deduce that either: a) You have never installed a OEMized version of Windows or, b) You are not very skilled user because these versions provide a wizard that only asks you no more than 5 basic questions, or c) You're simply joking... Greteings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3f8n6$ocp$4...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Installation
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:25:34 +0200, lee wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Now seriously, I already mentioned that the OS installation process is not the problem for users to keep linux but the afterwards, the day-to- day issues. And here is where the user's attitude becomes so important and vital for the matter: well informed users (and users who are interested in learning how their systems work) will look into the proper places to solve their problems while careless users will just say blow it away (i.e., uninstall) when they suffer from any problem. And while this is true for both windows and linux users, the formers still have the advantadge of being around another windows users that solve their problems. Following your argumentation, which OS someone uses is only a matter of which OS other people someone chooses to surround themselves with are using when they do not want to learn or to solve problems. (...) For the lazy users who are not interested in what their systems are or run, a big _sure_. If there were nobody solving their issues (and I'm quite confident that Windows users have *a lot of* problems) they will look for another solution that breaks less... it can be Apple (but their products are not affordable) or it can be -oh, what was the name...-, ah, yes, Linux. (Is it really $250 for a windoze license? I have one I couldn't avoid getting; maybe I should sell it. If you want to make an offer, please send it directly to me and not to the list.) Last time I checked (at the time Windows 7 was out) that was the price for the stand-alone (non-upgrade) retailer box you can find at any shop but now, with the new upcoming product (Windows 8) this could have changed, of course. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3f9c3$ocp$5...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy
On 9/20/2012 8:59 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 20 sep 12, 07:18:58, Mark Allums wrote: LCD do not refresh in the same sense as CRTs. They project a continuous picture. If a pixel doesn't change, it stays lit. No fading. OPs problem is not due to refresh, unless it is a CRT. His problem is probably due to environmental factors. E.g. display too bright, viewing angle causing neck strain, or eye strain, color balance/gamma subtly off, etc. You are obsessed with refresh rate, but it's a useless thing to focus on, because refresh rate is about flicker, and LCDs don't flicker. I have however seen LCD monitors behave significantly different depending on refresh rate. Entire areas were blury, but everything was fine when I switched to another refresh rate (60Hz - 75Hz if I remember correctly). I have never owned an LCD/LED monitor that one could change that setting on. And I've owned quite a few. Not in any OS, Debian, Ubuntu, SuSE, Mandriva, Fedora, Arch, Gentoo, Slackware, PCBSD, FreeBSD, Haiku, Windows in any form or version, nv driver, Nvidia driver, Nouveau driver VESA, Matrox, Cirrus logic, Intel driver, Bare metal or native or Virtualbox or VMWare or Xen or QEMU, any version of Xfree86, X.org, Wayland, KDE3, KDE4, GNOME 2, GNOME 3, MATE, Cinnamon, XFCE, Open box, bare X, LXDE, Unity, Moblin, LightDM, KDM,GDM, XDM. Never had that experience or heard of it or dreamt of it. There do exist bad LCD panels. Blotchy, dim in one quadrant, bad pixels, pixel memory, ghosting, terrible response time, bad contrast. Live and Learn. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b2a42.7080...@allums.com
Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:40:30 +0200, Lionel Trésaugues wrote: First, thanks all of you to try to solve the issue I encounter with Debian. I will come back now to some of the points you mentioned in the discussion. (for the next time consider individual replies instead putting all the bunch in the same basket ;-) ) Yes, but better if you describe in detail what kind of pain you are feeling because how the screen has to look like can be sometimes a matter of personal preference I tried to do so couple of lines above. Important point, I used to work with Debian as my main OS some time ago (on Sarge, as far as I remember) on another laptop with LCD screen, and never experienced this. I mean, if I agree that we can't exclude the personal preference issue, I am not physically allergic to the Debian environment ;) Okay, but the given description is not enough. Can you upload a snapshot of what you see in your screen and what's what you find unpleasure? That way we will able to give you more hints. Mmmm... At a first glance I see nothing wrong from the xrandr output, I mean, technically speaking both resolution and refresh rate values are right. Yes. Me neither. The only parameter I couldn't check (due to my lack of knowledge) is the horizontal refresh rate. Any idea how I can get this value ? The standard refresh rate for TFT/LCDs is set at 60 Hz. which is your current value (unless you have a very special or super high quality display). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3fa1s$ocp$6...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy
On Thursday 20 September 2012 15:37:54 Mark Allums wrote: Never had that experience or heard of it or dreamt of it. You obviously feel that your experience is more valid than anyone else's when it comes to monitors. But you appear to know nothing at all about eye/eyesight/eyestrain problems and headaches. You couldn't have heard of it, since you discount any mention you *do* hear. And it is irrelevant whether you have experienced or dreamt of it. There must be a good many disabilities, illnesses and physical problems about which you know nothing or very little, and hopefully many more of which you have no experience. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209201551.04981.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: FN Key to Enable/Disable Touchpad
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.comwrote: KeyRelease event, serial 41, synthetic NO, window 0x541, root 0xaf, subw 0x0, time 5589764, (607,535), root:(609,558), state 0x0, keycode 199 (keysym 0x1008ffa9, XF86TouchpadToggle), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False configured and add it there. Kind regards, Andrei Is there any tip on how to find such file and its syntax? Funny I googled FN key debian and got here. So, of course as always, our good answers and solutions is reference for future users. I can find the file if no one knows better. I just need some key words so I can use find, or regular expressions, or even google again. Thanks! Beco -- Dr Beco I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member. (Groucho Marx) Looks good. Now all that's left is to look up where the other keys are
Re: ntpd crashes.
Someone who Stefan failed to identify wrote: ...ntpd crashes on my server. Time jumps forward one hour every time this has happened. I doubt ntpd is crashing. Most likely something else is jumping the system clock and ntpd is behaving as designed and exiting when it sees a one hour error. Shut down ntpd, set the clock correctly, and wait. I suspect that eventually you'll see the clock jump even without ntpd running. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87627868vb@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Mplayer-gui error
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:34:20 +0200, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: Hi, Hi, but please, avoind sending html posts. I just updated mplayer with the official ppa from http://www.deb-multimedia.org Update or install? , but the package mplayer-gui broke and it can't install now :( Please see my error message here - http://www.sendspace.com/file/jlys9a Just a hint: when installing packages from D-M you better do not mix with the official ones from Debian repos, that is, if you want mplayer from D- M you also need gmplayer or any other related Mplayer packages from there. This way you'll avoid many problems and future conflicts. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3faql$ocp$7...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy
On Tuesday 18 September 2012 22:31:21 Lionel Trésaugues wrote: I am experiencing a physical pain whenever I am in front of my computer running either Debian (Wheezy) or Debian-based distributions (such as Mint LMDE, XFCE or MATE edition). Switching from XFCE to MATE doesn't lead to any improvements . My eyes start to suffer and soon, I can feel that an headache is coming. I don't have this feeling at all when I am running either Ubuntu or any Ubuntu-based distribution (Mint XFCE or Cinnamon edition). Is there any possibility that more of the ultra-violet end of the spectrum might be displaying in the Debian list of distros than in the Ubuntu list? If so, that could certainly cause the problems that Lionel mentions, but I know too little about the colour reproduction involved to know whether it is possible. If this could be the case, how could Lionel change it? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209201601.17461.lisi.re...@gmail.com
enter BIOS menu
Hi, during boot I entered the F10 it came into the Hewlett-Packard Setup Utility with the System BIOS 786D7 v01.02 I felt a bit frustrated after trying the possible keys like F1, ESC, Del. Any suggestions? Please. Thanks, Best regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b31d7.3060...@gmail.com
Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy
On Jo, 20 sep 12, 09:37:54, Mark Allums wrote: I have however seen LCD monitors behave significantly different depending on refresh rate. Entire areas were blury, but everything was fine when I switched to another refresh rate (60Hz - 75Hz if I remember correctly). I have never owned an LCD/LED monitor that one could change that setting on. And I've owned quite a few. Not in any OS, Debian, Ubuntu, SuSE, Mandriva, Fedora, Arch, Gentoo, Slackware, PCBSD, FreeBSD, Haiku, Windows in any form or version, nv driver, Nvidia driver, Nouveau driver VESA, Matrox, Cirrus logic, Intel driver, Bare metal or native or Virtualbox or VMWare or Xen or QEMU, any version of Xfree86, X.org, Wayland, KDE3, KDE4, GNOME 2, GNOME 3, MATE, Cinnamon, XFCE, Open box, bare X, LXDE, Unity, Moblin, LightDM, KDM,GDM, XDM. I can get you the exact model numbers if you insist, but from memory, it's an older 4:3 17 HP LCD, connected via VGA to an older HP desktop (P4) with integrated Intel VGA adapter, running Windows XP. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: force_igmp_status does not work
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:34:57 +, Pietro Paolini wrote: Pietro, you've hijacked a thread, I'm opening a new one. I am tryng to use the command : echo 2 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/force_igmp_version under my Debian 6.0 distribution but it does not work. I tried also : echo 2 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/default/force_igmp_version echo 2 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/force_igmp_version But without success, any suggestion ? How about using the /etc/systctl.conf file instead? :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3fc6s$ocp$8...@ger.gmane.org
Re: IA64 or AMD64?
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:44:35 +0200, Mauro wrote: I have a HP proliant DL580 G5 server with 4 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E7330 @ 2.40GHz processors. What architecture port I've to install, IA64 or AMD64? Thank you. The available architectures are detailed and explained here: http://www.debian.org/ports/index.en.html Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3fcbl$ocp$9...@ger.gmane.org
Re: FN Key to Enable/Disable Touchpad
On Jo, 20 sep 12, 11:51:59, Dr Beco wrote: Is there any tip on how to find such file and its syntax? Funny I googled FN key debian and got here. So, of course as always, our good answers and solutions is reference for future users. I can find the file if no one knows better. I just need some key words so I can use find, or regular expressions, or even google again. As far as I recall you are using KDE, so it should be somewhere in its configuration. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Drivers for ethernet chip on the Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H motherboard.
My on-board ethernet chip is not working in Debian Squeeze. I have installed a PCI card that is working, but I would like to have the (better) on board chip working. I have used it from the Linux Format remastered Ubuntu 12.04 live CD, so there is obviously a Linux driver for it. I have Googled and found only references to how well it works in Linux. I also found references to its being free and in the kernel. I cannot find a driver. I have installed 3.2.0 from Squeeze Backports without success. (That is to say, the upgraded kernel has not helped the situation. It installed without a hitch.) I have done a cold reboot. The video works without any problems and I have not so far done anything about the complaints that both Amarok and Kaffeine make about the lack of driver for sound, since I have not yet trouble-shot alsa. For me, sound is a pleasant addition, not a necessary adjunct. I must be missing something very simple, possibly in my Google-foo. At anyrate, PEBKAC probably looms large. Any suggestions as to what else I could try? Thank you. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209201627.12418.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: enter BIOS menu
Hi. On Thursday 20 September 2012 17:10:15 lina wrote: Hi, during boot I entered the F10 it came into the Hewlett-Packard Setup Utility with the System BIOS 786D7 v01.02 I felt a bit frustrated after trying the possible keys like F1, ESC, Del. Any suggestions? Please. Thanks, Best regards, I am not sure if I understand your problem. On (my) HP PC F10 starts the HP Setup Utility, as you wrote. That _is_ the BIOS menu. What do you expect? This BIOS menu looks a little bit different - when you are used to Award BIOS or something like that. The key used to enter the BIOS Setup differes depending on the BIOS manufacturer. Regards, Hartwig -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209201728.41198.hartwig.atr...@arcor.de
Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy
Lionel Trésaugues wrote: Debian and Ubuntu deal with fonts existed. But the unpleasant feeling is present (even if not so intense), just by looking at the background of an empty desktop. It seems that the light is too intense, too violent (even when I reduce the brightness) and that my eyes keep on adjusting the focus with no interruption in an almost imperceptible manner. Two things I would consider are: * The color temperature of the screen. Many LCDs have a very blue and bright tinge to them, which can be painful in large doses and is fixable by adjusting the color temperature and/or gamma correction. Some LCD monitors have gamma correction settings, but I use the redshift program to do it, as follows: gtk-redshift -l 35:-80 -r -t 5800:5800 -g 0.9 (alternatively, try a pair of rose tinted sunglasses, same basic effect ;) While I can't imagine the color temp or gamma varying between distributions, different desktop backgrounds could involve more painful colors. IIRC Ubuntu's tend to be more red/brown than Debian's, which would tend to obscure this problem. * Inaudible or barely audible noise from either the computer or the monitor, possibly created by specific clocks cycles of a particular software load. (TV sets do this to me all the time.) Try turning the monitor off and staying in front of the computer, or leaving it on but with the display obscured to check, or find a younger pair of ears who may be able to hear higher pitches. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: enter BIOS menu
On Thursday 20 September 2012 16:10:15 lina wrote: Hi, during boot I entered the F10 it came into the Hewlett-Packard Setup Utility with the System BIOS 786D7 v01.02 I felt a bit frustrated after trying the possible keys like F1, ESC, Del. Any suggestions? Please. What's the problem? What were you trying to achieve? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209201632.15672.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: FN Key to Enable/Disable Touchpad
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:56:26 -0300, Dr Beco wrote: (...) Camaleón, (please, no hmtl posts...) Thanks for the tip. Yes, I can turn it on/off manually. Good, that means it could be a simple problem of key detection and/or association. Is there a way to associate the Key with the Action? If you are using KDE or GNOME -for other desktops I don't know- you can create a custom key combo binded to a command which is usually done from the keyboard configuration module at the control center but remember you need a toggle button (on/off) and key bindings are usually assigned individually so you'll need 2 (one for enabling the touchpad and another for disabling it). Anyway, that would be a work-around not a proper/clean solution. PS. A bug report was filled and got itself the number 688181 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=688181 Ah, perfect then! :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3fd5m$ocp$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: enter BIOS menu
I am not sure if I understand your problem. On (my) HP PC F10 starts the HP Setup Utility, as you wrote. That _is_ the BIOS menu. What do you expect? This BIOS menu looks a little bit different - when you are used to Award BIOS or something like that. The key used to enter the BIOS Setup differes depending on the BIOS manufacturer. Seriously?! There is none BIOS setup. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07110dlc=enlc=encc=us#N163 It more like Figure 2 and Figure 3, but not like Figure 1 or others BIOS menu. I wish to EnableIntel VT-x and AMD-V virtualization hardware extensions in BIOS Best regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b388a.5040...@gmail.com
Re: Drivers for ethernet chip on the Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H motherboard.
On Thu 20 Sep 2012 at 16:27:12 +0100, Lisi wrote: Any suggestions as to what else I could try? I suppose we could look at the specs for your motherboard to get an idea of what the chipset is but you're going to tell us after doing 'lspci'. Yes? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120920154211.GP20063@desktop
Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy
- Original Message from Lionel Trésaugues - Lowering the brightness helps a little bit to make the pain more bearable, but it is still unpleasant and hurtful after a while. Another thing you may want to try is to connect your monitor through the VGA connector instead of DVI, if you have the right cable. Not sure if that would help, just curious if that would make any difference. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1348155756.57604.yahoomail...@web121901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: Drivers for ethernet chip on the Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H motherboard.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: My on-board ethernet chip is not working in Debian Squeeze. I have installed a PCI card that is working, but I would like to have the (better) on board chip working. I have used it from the Linux Format remastered Ubuntu 12.04 live CD, so there is obviously a Linux driver for it. I have Googled and found only references to how well it works in Linux. I also found references to its being free and in the kernel. I cannot find a driver. I have installed 3.2.0 from Squeeze Backports without success. (That is to say, the upgraded kernel has not helped the situation. It installed without a hitch.) I have done a cold reboot. The Gigabyte specs say it is an Atheros chip, but there are several different Atheros GbE chips out there, we need to know which one. Please post the section for the chip from the output of lspci -v Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=-fed7_g9tc1t0kp1r-7x2gfz1qshfs4rkxcysu2qg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: enter BIOS menu
On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 23:10:15 +0800, lina wrote: during boot I entered the F10 it came into the Hewlett-Packard Setup Utility (...) Congratulations, you are inside your BIOS menu ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k3fdi9$ocp$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: enter BIOS menu
On Thursday 20 September 2012 16:38:50 lina wrote: On (my) HP PC F10 starts the HP Setup Utility, as you wrote. That _is_ the BIOS menu. What do you expect? This BIOS menu looks a little bit different - when you are used to Award BIOS or something like that. The key used to enter the BIOS Setup differes depending on the BIOS manufacturer. Seriously?! There is none BIOS setup. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07110dlc=enlc=enc c=us#N163 It more like Figure 2 and Figure 3, Both figure 2 and figure 3 look fine to me. Figure 2 is straightforward and Figure 3 suggests pressing any key to continue. Did you try? Those examples specifically are how to find out the version of the BIOS that is in use on your computer, but I see no problem in using other settings. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209201649.35606.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: enter BIOS menu
On Thursday 20,September,2012 11:49 PM, Lisi wrote: On Thursday 20 September 2012 16:38:50 lina wrote: On (my) HP PC F10 starts the HP Setup Utility, as you wrote. That _is_ the BIOS menu. What do you expect? This BIOS menu looks a little bit different - when you are used to Award BIOS or something like that. The key used to enter the BIOS Setup differes depending on the BIOS manufacturer. Seriously?! There is none BIOS setup. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07110dlc=enlc=enc c=us#N163 It more like Figure 2 and Figure 3, Both figure 2 and figure 3 look fine to me. Figure 2 is straightforward and Figure 3 suggests pressing any key to continue. Did you try? Those examples specifically are how to find out the version of the BIOS that is in use on your computer, but I see no problem in using other settings. I tried every options there, no one leads me to the BIOS setup, I am so confused, Thanks. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b3c27.1010...@gmail.com
Re: Drivers for ethernet chip on the Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H motherboard.
On Thursday 20 September 2012 16:42:11 Brian wrote: On Thu 20 Sep 2012 at 16:27:12 +0100, Lisi wrote: Any suggestions as to what else I could try? I suppose we could look at the specs for your motherboard to get an idea of what the chipset is but you're going to tell us after doing 'lspci'. Yes? Doh.:-( PEBKAC. :-( lisi@Tux-II:~$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Device 0150 (rev 09) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 0152 (rev 09) 00:14.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Device 1e31 (rev 04) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Device 1e3a (rev 04) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Device 1e2d (rev 04) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 1e20 (rev 04) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 1e10 (rev c4) 00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 1e14 (rev c4) 00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c4) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Device 1e26 (rev 04) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Device 1e44 (rev 04) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Device 1e02 (rev 04) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation Device 1e22 (rev 04) 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Device 1083 (rev c0) 03:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 30) 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) lisi@Tux-II:~$ Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209201654.08611.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: enter BIOS menu
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:38 AM, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure if I understand your problem. On (my) HP PC F10 starts the HP Setup Utility, as you wrote. That _is_ the BIOS menu. What do you expect? This BIOS menu looks a little bit different - when you are used to Award BIOS or something like that. The key used to enter the BIOS Setup differes depending on the BIOS manufacturer. Seriously?! There is none BIOS setup. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07110dlc=enlc=encc=us#N163 It more like Figure 2 and Figure 3, but not like Figure 1 or others BIOS menu. I wish to Enable Intel VT-x and AMD-V virtualization hardware extensions in BIOS Well, you can't enable both of them! It looks to me like the bios you mentioned goes with Intel processors, so of course VT-x is what you want. It looks like many of these BIOSes have the VT-x option under a tab relating to security. Check there and see what you can find. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=-ig3gthy-1gmqdgyxoqonw5lg9ekdq6zuy4kxpv6l...@mail.gmail.com
Re: enter BIOS menu
Hi. On Thursday 20 September 2012 17:38:50 lina wrote: I am not sure if I understand your problem. On (my) HP PC F10 starts the HP Setup Utility, as you wrote. That _is_ the BIOS menu. What do you expect? This BIOS menu looks a little bit different - when you are used to Award BIOS or something like that. The key used to enter the BIOS Setup differes depending on the BIOS manufacturer. Seriously?! There is none BIOS setup. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07110dlc=enlc=enc c=us#N163 It more like Figure 2 and Figure 3, but not like Figure 1 or others BIOS menu. I've seen an HP with a BIOS like Figure 1 - many years ago. Design has changed. I wish to EnableIntel VT-x and AMD-V virtualization hardware extensions in BIOS No idea, my HP's are too old for that. Regards, Hartwig -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209201755.54554.hartwig.atr...@arcor.de
Re: Drivers for ethernet chip on the Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H motherboard.
On Thursday 20 September 2012 16:43:10 Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: My on-board ethernet chip is not working in Debian Squeeze. [snip] The Gigabyte specs say it is an Atheros chip, but there are several different Atheros GbE chips out there, we need to know which one. Please post the section for the chip from the output of lspci -v 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 19 I/O ports at d000 [size=256] Memory at f7c0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: 8139too Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209201659.24939.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: enter BIOS menu
On Thursday 20,September,2012 11:55 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:38 AM, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure if I understand your problem. On (my) HP PC F10 starts the HP Setup Utility, as you wrote. That _is_ the BIOS menu. What do you expect? This BIOS menu looks a little bit different - when you are used to Award BIOS or something like that. The key used to enter the BIOS Setup differes depending on the BIOS manufacturer. Seriously?! There is none BIOS setup. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07110dlc=enlc=encc=us#N163 It more like Figure 2 and Figure 3, but not like Figure 1 or others BIOS menu. I wish to Enable Intel VT-x and AMD-V virtualization hardware extensions in BIOS Well, you can't enable both of them! It looks to me like the bios you mentioned goes with Intel processors, so of course VT-x is what you want. It looks like many of these BIOSes have the VT-x option under a tab relating to security. Check there and see what you can find. Yes, under the Security -- OS security I found the Intel Virtualization Techology -- changed from disable to able. I was quite silly, in the past I reboot more than 20 times. Thanks again, Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b3dfa.7000...@gmail.com
Re: Drivers for ethernet chip on the Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H motherboard.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 20 September 2012 16:43:10 Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: My on-board ethernet chip is not working in Debian Squeeze. [snip] The Gigabyte specs say it is an Atheros chip, but there are several different Atheros GbE chips out there, we need to know which one. Please post the section for the chip from the output of lspci -v 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 19 I/O ports at d000 [size=256] Memory at f7c0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: 8139too Sorry, that is your other card. you want the one that goes with the line: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Device 1083 (rev c0) The extra info in the -v version shows what, if any, driver is currently attached to the device. Thanks, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=9hunoghpi6f8pgla1tq+t1tef1mqn6flff95buot+...@mail.gmail.com
Re: enter BIOS menu
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:02 AM, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 20,September,2012 11:55 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:38 AM, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure if I understand your problem. On (my) HP PC F10 starts the HP Setup Utility, as you wrote. That _is_ the BIOS menu. What do you expect? This BIOS menu looks a little bit different - when you are used to Award BIOS or something like that. The key used to enter the BIOS Setup differes depending on the BIOS manufacturer. Seriously?! There is none BIOS setup. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07110dlc=enlc=encc=us#N163 It more like Figure 2 and Figure 3, but not like Figure 1 or others BIOS menu. I wish to Enable Intel VT-x and AMD-V virtualization hardware extensions in BIOS Well, you can't enable both of them! It looks to me like the bios you mentioned goes with Intel processors, so of course VT-x is what you want. It looks like many of these BIOSes have the VT-x option under a tab relating to security. Check there and see what you can find. Yes, under the Security -- OS security I found the Intel Virtualization Techology -- changed from disable to able. I was quite silly, in the past I reboot more than 20 times. Well, it was a good thing I googled around, I would never have expected it to be under security (though in retrospect I can see why, though I still don't agree). Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=-nkukn8+thwj2byq53khzvlcbb-qeq7bu+v0ev8mv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: enter BIOS menu
On Friday 21,September,2012 12:11 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:02 AM, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 20,September,2012 11:55 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:38 AM, lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure if I understand your problem. On (my) HP PC F10 starts the HP Setup Utility, as you wrote. That _is_ the BIOS menu. What do you expect? This BIOS menu looks a little bit different - when you are used to Award BIOS or something like that. The key used to enter the BIOS Setup differes depending on the BIOS manufacturer. Seriously?! There is none BIOS setup. http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=bph07110dlc=enlc=encc=us#N163 It more like Figure 2 and Figure 3, but not like Figure 1 or others BIOS menu. I wish to Enable Intel VT-x and AMD-V virtualization hardware extensions in BIOS Well, you can't enable both of them! It looks to me like the bios you mentioned goes with Intel processors, so of course VT-x is what you want. It looks like many of these BIOSes have the VT-x option under a tab relating to security. Check there and see what you can find. Yes, under the Security -- OS security I found the Intel Virtualization Techology -- changed from disable to able. I was quite silly, in the past I reboot more than 20 times. Well, it was a good thing I googled around, I would never have expected it to be under security (though in retrospect I can see why, though I still don't agree). Finally the virtualbox problem ... This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU. Unable to boot – please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU ... was solved by this. If without google-ing, I barely know the connections between above message with the enable Intel Virtualization Techology. Thanks again, Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b4189.5030...@gmail.com
Re: Drivers for ethernet chip on the Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H motherboard.
On Jo, 20 sep 12, 16:42:11, Brian wrote: On Thu 20 Sep 2012 at 16:27:12 +0100, Lisi wrote: Any suggestions as to what else I could try? I suppose we could look at the specs for your motherboard to get an idea of what the chipset is but you're going to tell us after doing 'lspci'. Just for the archives: the -nn option for lspci is very useful to identify devices ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Wheezy managesieve segfault
Am Donnerstag, 20. September 2012 schrieb Denis Witt: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:30:08 +0200 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: your bug report is not yet there. It's now filed, I also got an reply: tags 688197 + pending confirmed thanks It's a known bug and it's already fixed in the package git repository. The next upload will contain the fix. Now see, all well again ;) -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209201857.50157.mar...@lichtvoll.de
