Re: Live network monitor

[Burhan Hanoglu]

On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Steve Witt  wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Jan 2014, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>  Bob Proulx  writes:
>>
>>tcptrack -i eth2
>>>
>>> There is also 'iftop'.
>>>
>>>   iftop -i eth2
>>>
>>
>> OK, checking them out... thanks
>>
>
> 'iptraf' is also nice, it has a nice curses interface and is fairly
> configurable.


"nethogs" is another nice one which shows processes with their SENT and
RECEIVED traffic.

Re: Live network monitor

[Steve Witt]

On Fri, 3 Jan 2014, Harry Putnam wrote:


Bob Proulx  writes:


  tcptrack -i eth2

There is also 'iftop'.

  iftop -i eth2


OK, checking them out... thanks


'iptraf' is also nice, it has a nice curses interface and is fairly 
configurable.




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Re: adding a printer

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2014-01-03 20:25:53 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> cups was installed, when I first went to print, it wanted to print to
> the pdf printer.. but there was no way for me to install a printer..

Open http://localhost:631/admin in a web browser, choose "Add a printer"
and connect as root.

I had to add a printer a few days ago (for the first time), and
the above worked. Well, this was a bit more complex since the
model wasn't supported and I had to get the ppd...

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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

[Doug]

On 01/03/2014 07:46 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

Nah, no difference noticed. But I did catch one oddity. Today when

/snip/

I was booting up, I had the trackball connected to the USB port (that
has the power connector next to it) and while it was loading the
greeter (? the login window) the trackball did work. Then once the
login window came up, that was it.
 I'm kinda stumped here...

sometimes some USB devices don't like other things plugged in that same
bus.. as in only have the trackball plugged in, and the other port
spare.. maybe not enough power.. I had that same issue recently with the
trinity DM, the mouse didn't work. I... gave up:) went back to MATE.
does it work on say the XFCE desktop manager?


Installing Mate & XFCE right now to test.

I must say, I am surprised that no one else has chimed in with any 
suggestions as to how to get my USB mouse or trackball working...


Have you tried unplugging the mouse/trackball and then plugging it back 
in again, after it has stopped working?


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Re: Dovecot *requires* MySQL?

[Bob Bernstein]

On Fri, 3 Jan 2014, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell wrote:


well look at the pkg in apt and see what it is.


The thread has answered my question in a very thorough fashion.

i'd be surprise with installing imap.  haven't heard of that since 
the mid 90's


I think there is a lot of IMAP around. Much (most?) webmail runs on 
IMAP, and Apple's "Cloud," as far as email is concerned, is also 
IMAP.


However, and more than likely needless to add, Lord Knows I am not 
an Attorney, those are just my opinions, and I could be wrong!



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Re: Live network monitor

[David Guntner]

Harry Putnam grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> David Guntner  writes:
> 
>> Harry Putnam grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>>> What are people using who want to look at live network connections as
>>> they happen?  Especially if it can be made to work on win7 as well.
>>
>> Wireshark comes to mind. :-)
>>
>> http://www.wireshark.org/
> 
> Will that actually show live connections?  The first little bit I saw
> about it mentioned it would not do live display... is that wrong?

I'm not sure what you mean by "live connections."  But I've used it in
the past to watch all traffic as it happens or filter for specific
ports, etc.

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something triggering my screensaver timeout (login dialog) - sid, xfce

[Zenaan Harkness]

My login dialog, after I lock my screen, gets repeatedly triggered -
as though some keyboard key or mouse movement occurs - even after
unplugging my two mice.

I have a trackpad which is disabled in bios.

There is a trackpoint - the only thing left.

Is there a program or cmd line script I could run, to
deterministically show what triggered xscreensaver?

TIA
Zenaan


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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

[Dave Woyciesjes]

On 01/03/2014 08:23 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 01/03/2014 08:20 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

Installing Mate & XFCE right now to test.

 I must say, I am surprised that no one else has chimed in with
any suggestions as to how to get my USB mouse or trackball working...


 Well, now this is interesting.I installed XFCE, and now the
trackball is working in Gnome. Time to test the mouse, which I
anticipate will work.
 XFCE must've brought in whatever was needed...

not necessarily... if you go back, it still may not work.. let us know!!

That's the odd thing. All I did was install XFCE, then noticed the 
trackball working at the login greeter. Logged in to XFCE, Cinnamon, and 
now back in to Gnome like I want, and it works everywhere


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Re: adding a printer

[Paul Cartwright]

On 01/03/2014 06:33 PM, Vicios wrote:
> System-config-printer [1] packages are a GUI interface to manage CUPS
> [2], check this packets are installed and try to connect with a Web
> browser to http://127.0.0.1:631.
>
> Also yo can create a virtual PDF printer with cpus-pdf [2] package
> that it will be integrated with System Administrator panel.
>
> Regards.
> Fernando.
cups was installed, when I first went to print, it wanted to print to
the pdf printer.. but there was no way for me to install a printer..
all I was missing was the
1 - http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/system-config-printer


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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

[Dave Woyciesjes]

On 01/03/2014 07:46 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

On 12/31/2013 05:07 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 12/31/2013 04:03 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

it..my problem with Debian is the ice...dove/weasel.. rather than
the real thunderbird. I like thunderbird, I don't want it rebranded.

I added the Linux Mint Debian Edition repositories to get Firefox &
Thunderbird.

I just downloaded the Debian DVD... made some room on my 2nd drive. I
may install Debian  tomorrow ..a day off:)

does lsusb show anything different for your mouse with the docking
station attached??


 Nah, no difference noticed. But I did catch one oddity. Today when
I was booting up, I had the trackball connected to the USB port (that
has the power connector next to it) and while it was loading the
greeter (? the login window) the trackball did work. Then once the
login window came up, that was it.
 I'm kinda stumped here...

sometimes some USB devices don't like other things plugged in that same
bus.. as in only have the trackball plugged in, and the other port
spare.. maybe not enough power.. I had that same issue recently with the
trinity DM, the mouse didn't work. I... gave up:) went back to MATE.
does it work on say the XFCE desktop manager?


Installing Mate & XFCE right now to test.

I must say, I am surprised that no one else has chimed in with any 
suggestions as to how to get my USB mouse or trackball working...


Well, now this is interesting.I installed XFCE, and now the 
trackball is working in Gnome. Time to test the mouse, which I 
anticipate will work.

XFCE must've brought in whatever was needed...

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Re: USB mouse on Latitude D430

[Dave Woyciesjes]

On 12/31/2013 05:07 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:

On 12/31/2013 04:03 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:

it..my problem with Debian is the ice...dove/weasel.. rather than
the real thunderbird. I like thunderbird, I don't want it rebranded.

I added the Linux Mint Debian Edition repositories to get Firefox &
Thunderbird.

I just downloaded the Debian DVD... made some room on my 2nd drive. I
may install Debian  tomorrow ..a day off:)

does lsusb show anything different for your mouse with the docking
station attached??


 Nah, no difference noticed. But I did catch one oddity. Today when
I was booting up, I had the trackball connected to the USB port (that
has the power connector next to it) and while it was loading the
greeter (? the login window) the trackball did work. Then once the
login window came up, that was it.
 I'm kinda stumped here...

sometimes some USB devices don't like other things plugged in that same
bus.. as in only have the trackball plugged in, and the other port
spare.. maybe not enough power.. I had that same issue recently with the
trinity DM, the mouse didn't work. I... gave up:) went back to MATE.
does it work on say the XFCE desktop manager?


Installing Mate & XFCE right now to test.

I must say, I am surprised that no one else has chimed in with any 
suggestions as to how to get my USB mouse or trackball working...


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Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

[Sven Hartge]

John Hasler  wrote:
> Sven Hartge writes:

>> Depending on which version of Debian you installed, you will rarely
>> get any updates at all. Wheezy (7.x) is stable and only get security
>> updates and major bug fixes via point releases about every two
>> months: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases

> Don't wait for the point releases.  You should have security in your
> sources, subscribe to the security list, and do updates as required to
> get security fixes.

Yes, my wording was misleading. I should not try to write technical
English after being awake for more than 30 hours ...

Grüße,
S°

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Re: Live network monitor

[Harry Putnam]

Bob Proulx  writes:

>   tcptrack -i eth2
>
> There is also 'iftop'.
>
>   iftop -i eth2

OK, checking them out... thanks


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Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

[Robert Holtzman]

On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Carl Johnson wrote:
> Tanstaafl  writes:
> 
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in
> > Debian that I do routinely in gentoo.
> ...
> > Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance tasks like this?
> 
> You might want to look into the debian-reference package.  It is also
> available on the web at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/.

It looks like most/all this stuff is obsolete.

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Re: Live network monitor

[Harry Putnam]

David Guntner  writes:

> Harry Putnam grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>> What are people using who want to look at live network connections as
>> they happen?  Especially if it can be made to work on win7 as well.
>
> Wireshark comes to mind. :-)
>
> http://www.wireshark.org/

Will that actually show live connections?  The first little bit I saw
about it mentioned it would not do live display... is that wrong?


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Re: Live network monitor

[Bob Proulx]

Harry Putnam wrote:
> What are people using who want to look at live network connections as
> they happen?

It depends upon what type of information you are looking to obtain?
What are you looking for?

If I just want to see live bandwidth use then I have been getting good
use out of tcptrack running on a routing machine.

  tcptrack -i eth2

There is also 'iftop'.

  iftop -i eth2

Otherwise tcpdump for many things.

> Especially if it can be made to work on win7 as well.

Ha! :-)

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Re: adding a printer

[Vicios]

El 04/01/14 02:23, Paul Cartwright escribió:

I just installed Wheezy recently, and I didn't even think abouit it, but
I went to print a web page, and... there was no printer setup. SO, I
went to  system-Administration, and  no printer icon.. tried control
center, nothing. I googled and finally found that I had to run this
command first-
# apt-get install system-config-printer

now I have a printer setup under system-administration.. that was weird..


Hi!

System-config-printer [1] packages are a GUI interface to manage CUPS 
[2], check this packets are installed and try to connect with a Web 
browser to http://127.0.0.1:631.


Also yo can create a virtual PDF printer with cpus-pdf [2] package that 
it will be integrated with System Administrator panel.


Regards.
Fernando.

1 - http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/system-config-printer
2 - http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/cups
3 - http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/cups-pdf

Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

[Bob Proulx]

Brian wrote:
> Tanstaafl wrote:
> > eix packagename
> > shows all available versions of that package, and what repo they
> > reside in (stable, testing, etc)
> 
>apt-cache 

Typo: apt-cache show 

> and
>apt-cache policy 
> 
> > emerge --pretend -vuDN world
> > results in a list of all available updates, as well as any
> > dependencies that would be installed, which I can then pick and
> > choose from. I usually wait until newly available updates have been
> > available for at least a few days before installing them, to avoid
> > nasty surprises.
> 
>apt-get upgrade -s
> 
> or
> 
>apt-get dist-upgrade -s
> 
> The '-s' can be omitted if more than one package is to installed.

I find that using "apt-get dist-upgrade -d -y" to be useful too.  It
doesn't install anything but downloads the packages that will be
installed.  It tells me what will be installed while also doing useful
work.

I have a crontab in cron daily so that when I manually install these
then everything is ready and fast and I don't have to wait on the
download part to happen.

  apt-get -q update && apt-get -q autoclean && apt-get -q upgrade -d -y && 
apt-get -q dist-upgrade -d -y



Some fun details that may spark some ideas...

I have a lot of systems to maintain.  Therefore I automate as much as
I can to make things happen for me.  I have the following in
/etc/cron.daily/apt-dist-upgrade-download file:

  #!/bin/sh
  # At least once a day update the index package lists and download
  # pending upgrades.
  {
apt-get -q update && apt-get -q autoclean && apt-get -q upgrade -d -y && 
apt-get -q dist-upgrade -d -y
  } 2>&1 | mailx -s "apt download output" root
  exit 0

The above does not install anything.  But it does update the apt index
files (aka Packages) daily and it automatically downloads the packages
so that things are ready to go when I come to them later.

And it always sends an email from the machine.  This is a heartbeat
for me to keep track of the machine.  If I don't get the email then I
know something is wrong.  So I have cron that looks for missing email.

If you are using procmail it is convenient to have procmail filter out
mail that says nothing needs to be done.  Nothing needs to be done if
the mail says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not
upgraded."  File those off into a folder per machine.

  :0HB
  * ^Subject: Cron 
  * ^/etc/cron.daily/apt-get-update-download:
  * ^0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
  machines/example/

  :0HBc
  * ^Subject: Cron 
  * ^/etc/cron.daily/apt-get-update-download:
  machines/example/

Then I check that folder by cron.  If I don't have a new message then
I know the machine did not email me and I have to go check it.  If
there is a problem I can check the history in the appropriate mailbox.

  #!/bin/sh
  # Use the daily mail as a keepalive.
  if [ $(find $HOME/Mail/machines/example -type f -cmin -1440 -print | wc -l) 
-eq 0 ]; then
echo "example failed to email us recently"
  fi
  # Prune older messages.
  find $HOME/Mail/machines/example -type f -mtime +30 -delete
  exit 0

The above is for one single machine "example".  I didn't show the
expanded parameterized versions for any machine because that is not as
clear what is happening.  But you get the idea.  Always automate as
much as possible. :-)

Bob


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Re: Best SFTP (w/chroot): vsftpd vs mysecureshell vs other ??

[PaulNM]

On 01/03/2014 05:14 PM, Bob Goldberg wrote:
> ADDENDUM:
> forget about vsftp - this package has NOTHING WHAT-SO-EVER to do with SFTP.
> WTH were they thinking when they named that package!?
> 

Well, Very Secure FTP (vsftp) was initially released back in Feb of
2001. The sftp protocal does technically predate that, but apparently
was just a little-used proprietary protocol for awhile. Wikipedia shows
some IETF Internet Drafts from 2001, but I doubt it was well known at
the time.


> so my question now very simply becomes:
> what do demanding admin's choose as a preferred SFTP server, that allows
> chrooting WITH group "w" access 
> 

Wish I could help with that, but I've only ever used openssh's
implementation, and without chrooting for that matter.

- PaulNM


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Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 03 January 2014 14:16:34 Brian wrote:
> The '-s' can be omitted if more than one package is to installed.

i.e., if you are requesting more than one package, it will tell you 
what it is going to install before doing it anyway.  You need the -s 
for one package, because if you have only asked for one package it 
otherwise just goes right ahead and installs it.

Lisi


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Re: Half-OT: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

[Zenaan Harkness]

On 1/3/14, Ralf Mardorf  wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 07:29 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> (Debian and FreeBSD being the top contenders)
>
> There's a Debian BSD port too:
> https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD

> For servers likely Debian stable is the best way to go, but I don't have
> experiences with this and if you need to compile software from upstream
> you anyway need to switch to testing or unstable.

Not true.

I compiled various software for Debian stable, a few years ago, and
git quite a few times last year, and used to regularly compile new
kernels, and years ago even Ardour, all on Debian stable. git only has
about 10 dependencies though (and a few to build the documentation),
so very straightforward.

If the software depends on some libraries that also are newer than in
Debian stable, you might have to compile those too. If your software
you want to compile has lots of new dependencies, your build process
might be a bit daunting and then yes, sid might be a better choice.
But it definitely depends.

Absolutes, are _always_ wrong.

;)


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Re: Best SFTP (w/chroot): vsftpd vs mysecureshell vs other ??

[Bob Goldberg]

ADDENDUM:
forget about vsftp - this package has NOTHING WHAT-SO-EVER to do with SFTP.
WTH were they thinking when they named that package!?

so my question now very simply becomes:
what do demanding admin's choose as a preferred SFTP server, that allows
chrooting WITH group "w" access 



On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Bob Goldberg  wrote:

> trying to determine best solution for an SFTP server.
>
>vsftpd appears to be my current best choice, mostly because it's
> supported by the distribution; but i'm not sure it meets my needs.
>I know mysecureshell meets my needs; but it's a sourceforge project,
> and not directly supported by the deb dist.
>
> Here's where my needs cause problems - especially with chroot/openssh:
> i have 2 classes of users accessing this sftp server.
> "users" and "managers". The problem is that managers need group "rw"
> rights, and normal chroot does not allow for ANY group "w" rights.
>
> users must be chroot'ed to /home/chroot/home/.
>users belong to the chroot group.
>their home dir down, need all be group owned by chmgr.
>home dir down; should all be chmod 770(dir)/660(files). so  and
> managers (chmgr group) all have rw access to files, and rwx /dirs; with
> other having no rights at all.
>
> managers ideally chroot'ed to /home/chroot/home.
>they can access all  folders, and transfer files in/out of
> each.
>they belong to the chmgr group.
>
>
> so - yes, i know i can chmod 750 the  dir, and then use
> sub-dir's under that are chmod 770; but this is messy, and forces another
> layer of dir's i'd prefer not to have.
>
>
> so i guess my main question, simply is - can i do what i want with:
> - vsftpd ?  (preferred as is dist. supported)
> - other ?
> - mysecureshell - i KNOW this will do what i want; but not dist. supported.
>
> what do demanding admin's choose as their preferred sftp server ?
> TIA - Bob
>
>
>

Fw: Disable ipv6....... [OT?]

[Charlie]

Maybe off topic:

This is interesting in that I received this and another from the same
source in my inbox? But not on my list inbox?

It CC's to the list, but when I looked at the list posts, it wasn't
there?

So I replied to all and that didn't get onto the list?

I suspect something tricky here?

Maybe someone can enlighten me?

TIA
Charlie

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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 08:13:16 +1100
From: Charlie 
To: johnandsa...@cox.net
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Disable ipv6...



  On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 12:57:36 -0500 John mentioned this: 
Re: Disable ipv6 

> i think my ipv6 is disabled.  good.
> 
> when they fully publish what ipv6 is without using "maybe" and "might 
> be this in xxx country, and your ISP may be blocking it, then i'll 
> start listening.
> 
> go to wikipedia.com check it.  for that matter find anyone that
> agrees how exactly what the bits are and what software might do which
> when these bits are set.
> 
> why?  because ipv6 can let the internet change routing on your own 
> computer and gooness knows what else.  without strict standards of
> how to set bits and well understood kernel ipv6 drive: you don't know
> what someone may be doing remotely


  From my keyboard:

   Hello John and Sara,

  Thanks for that information.

  I wanted it disabled because
  satellite doesn't use it and it is just another hurdle that
  doesn't need to be there for my purpose.

Be well,
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Re: Problems while using Tor Browser on Debian 7

[Robin]

On 3 January 2014 19:21, Muntasim-Ul-Haque  wrote:
> Hi,
> I have installed Tor on Debian 7 but couldn't use it. Viladia is showing the
> following errors:
> [Warning] Could not bind to 127.0.0.1:9050: Cannot assign requested address
> [Warning] /var/run/tor is not owned by this user (tranjeeshan, 1000) but by
> debian-tor (115). Perhaps you are running Tor as the wrong user?
> [Warning] Before Tor can create a control socket in "/var/run/tor/control",
> the directory "/var/run/tor" needs to exist, and to be accessible only by
> the user account that is running Tor.  (On some Unix systems, anybody who
> can list a socket can connect to it, so Tor is being careful.)
> [Warning] Failed to parse/validate config: Failed to bind one of the
> listener ports.
>
> Now how can I make Tor work?
> Thanking you,
> Muntasim-Ul-haque


Worth considering: Details taken from Debian package description:

Note that Tor does no protocol cleaning on application traffic. There
is a danger that application protocols and associated programs can be
induced to reveal information about the user. Tor depends on Torbutton
and similar protocol cleaners to solve this problem. For best
protection when web surfing, the Tor Project recommends that you use
the Tor Browser Bundle, a standalone tarball that includes static
builds of Tor, Torbutton, and a modified Firefox that is patched to fix
a variety of privacy bugs.

The Tor Browser Bundle, is available from:

https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en
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Re: Problems while using Tor Browser on Debian 7

[Gregory Nowak]

On Sat, Jan 04, 2014 at 01:21:03AM +0600, Muntasim-Ul-Haque wrote:
> Now how can I make Tor work?

By running it as:

invoke-rc.d tor start

instead of as your regular user. You did install tor from the debian
repositories, right? If not, then maybe someone else can help you if
you tell us where you installed tor from.

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Re: Live network monitor

[David Guntner]

Harry Putnam grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> What are people using who want to look at live network connections as
> they happen?  Especially if it can be made to work on win7 as well.

Wireshark comes to mind. :-)

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Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

[Harry Putnam]

"Andrew M.A. Cater"  writes:

>> emerge --pretend -vuDN world

Welcome to another former gentoo hand.

If you have X running:
I'm pretty sure, though have never used it, that there is a little
tool on you desktop menus somewhere.  With a name like 
`Software updates', probably under system tools or some such.

I think that tool will show what is to be installed without installing
it. If you want to install them you have to indicate so... I think.




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Live network monitor

[Harry Putnam]

What are people using who want to look at live network connections as
they happen?  Especially if it can be made to work on win7 as well.


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Re: how to configure pulseaudio to use analog speaker on motherboard not hdmi on video card

[Mitchell Laks]

> We might be getting there. See the two different users running
> pulseaudio, uid '125' and 'mlaks'. Who is this '125' anyway? I'd
> accuse them of hogging the audio sink, making it unavailable to
> 'mlaks'. Here is a similar report: 
> 
> 
> $ grep 125 /etc/passwd
> $ grep audio  /etc/group
> 




ok so i did 

mlaks@Rashi:~$ grep 125 /etc/passwd
mysql:x:119:125:MySQL Server,,,:/var/lib/mysql:/bin/false
speech-dispatcher:x:125:29:Speech 
Dispatcher,,,:/var/run/speech-dispatcher:/bin/sh

strange
so lets get rd of speech dispatcher
i dont have a speech-reading-hearing problem anyway

so 

  Rashi:~# apt-get remove speech-dispatcher



The following packages will be REMOVED:
  akonadiconsole akregator amarok amor ark blinken blogilo bomber bovo 
calligraplan calligrasheets calligrastage calligrawords cantor
  cantor-backend-kalgebra cervisia cvsservice dolphin filelight granatier 
gwenview jovie juk k3b kaccessible kaddressbook kajongg kalarm kalgebra kalzium
  kanagram kapman kapptemplate karbon kate kate-plugins katomic kbattleship 
kblackbox kblocks kbounce kbreakout kbruch kbugbuster kcachegrind kcalc
  kcharselect kchmviewer kcolorchooser kde-baseapps kde-baseapps-bin 
kde-plasma-desktop kde-plasma-netbook kde-runtime kde-style-oxygen 
kde-window-manager
  kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kdeaccessibility kdeadmin kdeartwork kdebase 
kdebase-apps kdebase-bin kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace
  kdebase-workspace-bin kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics kdelibs-bin 
kdelibs5-plugins kdelirc kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork kdepasswd kdepim
  kdepim-groupware kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-strigi-plugins 
kdepim-wizards kdeplasma-addons kdesdk kdesdk-dolphin-plugins kdesdk-kio-plugins
  kdesdk-misc kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev kdf kdiamond kdm kexi kfilereplace 
kfind kfloppy kfourinline kgeography kget kgoldrunner kgpg khangman kig kigo
  kile kile-l10n killbots kimagemapeditor kinfocenter kiriki kiten kjots 
kjumpingcube kleopatra klettres klickety klines klinkstatus klipper kmag 
kmahjongg
  kmail kmenuedit kmines kmix kmousetool kmouth kmplot kmtrace knetwalk knode 
knotes kolf kollision kolourpaint4 kommander kompare konq-plugins konqueror
  konqueror-nsplugins konquest konsole konsolekalendar kontact kopete 
korganizer kpartloader kpat kplato kplayer kppp kpresenter krdc kremotecontrol
  krename kreversi krfb krita kruler ksame kscd kscreensaver 
kscreensaver-xsavers kshisen ksirk ksnapshot kspaceduel kspread ksquares kstars 
ksudoku
  ksysguard ksystemlog kteatime kthesaurus ktimer ktimetracker ktouch ktron 
kttsd ktuberling kturtle kubrick kuiviewer kuser kwalletmanager kweather kword
  kwordquiz kwrite libkateinterfaces4 libkdepim4 libkopete4 libmessagelist4 
libplasmaclock4abi3 libsmokekdecore4-3 libsmokekdeui4-3 libsmokekfile3
  libsmokekhtml3 libsmokekio3 libsmokeknewstuff2-3 libsmokeknewstuff3-3 
libsmokekparts3 libsmokektexteditor3 libsmokekutils3 libsmokeplasma3
  libtaskmanager4abi3 lokalize lskat marble mplayerthumbs okteta okular 
palapeli parley plasma-dataengines-workspace plasma-desktop plasma-netbook
  plasma-runners-addons plasma-scriptengine-python plasma-scriptengine-ruby 
plasma-scriptengine-superkaramba plasma-scriptengines plasma-widget-lancelot
  plasma-widgets-addons plasma-widgets-workspace polkit-kde-1 python-kde4 rocs 
ruby-kde4 ruby-plasma speech-dispatcher step sweeper systemsettings umbrello
The following NEW packages will be installed:


oops!

well I have been 1/2 sid since I moved to the kernel 3.12.1 to get the  radeon 
driver to work nicely with xrandr so some changes are in store

ok lets go for it. we only live once
I can always install something again if I need it, dont recognize any of the 
kde stuff as useful on my stumpwm setup anyway...
:)

ok so now we are ok
vlc file.wmv works immediately
Anyway, now no problem!!! I get beautiful sound right up when I start the 

So I guess I could have just turned off speech-dispacher in rc2.d
I guess the myseql thing is weird, but does seem to affect sound..
what is your take on this matter?

Mitchell




> Here's a snipped I found on the ArchWiki Alsa pages:
> "Membership in the audio group also allows direct access to devices,
> which can lead to applications grabbing exclusive output (breaking
> software mixing) (snip) Therefore, adding a user to the audio group
> is not recommended, unless you specifically need to[1].
> 
> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/TheAudioGroup";
> 
> So, once you find out who '125' is, let's see whether you can then
> stop that process monopolising the audio card0.
> 
> BTW, killing and restarting the current user's PA process should be
> much easier than what you do:
> 
> $ pulseaudio -k
> 
> The default behaviour is to automatically respawn a process.
> 
> $ grep spawn /etc/pulse/client.conf
> ; autospawn = yes
> 
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adding a printer

[Paul Cartwright]

I just installed Wheezy recently, and I didn't even think abouit it, but
I went to print a web page, and... there was no printer setup. SO, I
went to  system-Administration, and  no printer icon.. tried control
center, nothing. I googled and finally found that I had to run this
command first-
# apt-get install system-config-printer

now I have a printer setup under system-administration.. that was weird..

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Re: Dovecot *requires* MySQL?

[Bob Bernstein]

On Fri, 3 Jan 2014, Intense Red wrote:

  And to do this without adding the command-line parameter, edit 
the file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20norecommends putting:


[two excellent methods snipped for the sake of brevity]

Thank you! So the Monster Apt can be slain without daring to venture 
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Re: Thunar: Freeze when trying to open webdav folder

[hasgarion]

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On 03.01.2014 20:21, hasgar...@hellshell.de wrote:
> thx for confirming, I will file a bug report.

Bug#734098

> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Hasgarion
> 
> 
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Problems while using Tor Browser on Debian 7

[Muntasim-Ul-Haque]

Hi,
I have installed Tor on Debian 7 but couldn't use it. Viladia is showing 
the following errors:
/*[Warning] Could not bind to 127.0.0.1:9050: Cannot assign requested 
address*//*
*//*[Warning] /var/run/tor is not owned by this user (tranjeeshan, 1000) 
but by debian-tor (115). Perhaps you are running Tor as the wrong user?*//*
*//*[Warning] Before Tor can create a control socket in 
"/var/run/tor/control", the directory "/var/run/tor" needs to exist, and 
to be accessible only by the user account that is running Tor.  (On some 
Unix systems, anybody who can list a socket can connect to it, so Tor is 
being careful.)*//*
*//*[Warning] Failed to parse/validate config: Failed to bind one of the 
listener ports.*/


Now how can I make Tor work?
Thanking you,
Muntasim-Ul-haque

Re: Thunar: Freeze when trying to open webdav folder

[hasgarion]

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Hello,

thx for confirming, I will file a bug report.

On 03.01.2014 17:50, Linux-Fan wrote:
[...]
> "Go" "Open Location"
[...]

>> Then I begin to type "https" and when I type ":" the Thunar 
>> window freezes immediately.

> Confirmed.
> 
> I run Thunar on Debian amd64 without XFCE so XFCE does not seem to 
> be the source of the problem. Also, if you wait a minute, the 
> window will become responsitive again. Strace says it hangs at
> 
> poll([{fd=23, events=POLLIN}], 1, 6
> 
> hence the 60 seconds delay.

I will add this to the description.

Best regards,

Hasgarion

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Best SFTP (w/chroot): vsftpd vs mysecureshell vs other ??

[Bob Goldberg]

trying to determine best solution for an SFTP server.

   vsftpd appears to be my current best choice, mostly because it's
supported by the distribution; but i'm not sure it meets my needs.
   I know mysecureshell meets my needs; but it's a sourceforge project, and
not directly supported by the deb dist.

Here's where my needs cause problems - especially with chroot/openssh:
i have 2 classes of users accessing this sftp server.
"users" and "managers". The problem is that managers need group "rw"
rights, and normal chroot does not allow for ANY group "w" rights.

users must be chroot'ed to /home/chroot/home/.
   users belong to the chroot group.
   their home dir down, need all be group owned by chmgr.
   home dir down; should all be chmod 770(dir)/660(files). so  and
managers (chmgr group) all have rw access to files, and rwx /dirs; with
other having no rights at all.

managers ideally chroot'ed to /home/chroot/home.
   they can access all  folders, and transfer files in/out of
each.
   they belong to the chmgr group.


so - yes, i know i can chmod 750 the  dir, and then use sub-dir's
under that are chmod 770; but this is messy, and forces another layer of
dir's i'd prefer not to have.


so i guess my main question, simply is - can i do what i want with:
- vsftpd ?  (preferred as is dist. supported)
- other ?
- mysecureshell - i KNOW this will do what i want; but not dist. supported.

what do demanding admin's choose as their preferred sftp server ?
TIA - Bob

Re: Help: 'g++ -m32 ...' does not find

[Thomas Vaughan]

Thanks! That worked.


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Sven Joachim  wrote:

> On 2014-01-02 19:22 +0100, Thomas Vaughan wrote:
>
> > Using Debian unstable and default g++ (4.8.2), I am recently unable to
> > build a project that was building a few weeks ago.
> >
> > ---BEGIN SNIPPET FROM BUILD LOG---
> > libtool: compile:  g++ ... -m32 -fmessage-length=0 -O0 -fPIC -ggdb3
> > -fvar-tracking-assignments -W -Wall -Wconversion -Wshadow -Wcast-align
> > -Wwrite-strings -Wpointer-arith -MT bar.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/bar.Tpo -c
> > bar.cpp -o bar.o
> > In file included from /usr/include/sys/socket.h:39:0,
> >  from /usr/include/netinet/in.h:24,
> >  from /usr/include/arpa/inet.h:22,
> > ...
> > /usr/include/bits/socket.h:343:24: fatal error: asm/socket.h: No such
> file
> > or directory
> >  #include 
>
> Install gcc-multilib, it includes the necessary symlink
> /usr/include/asm -> x86_64-linux-gnu/asm for "g++ -m32" to work.
>
> Cheers,
>Sven
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Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

[Carl Johnson]

Tanstaafl  writes:

> Hello all,
>
> I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in
> Debian that I do routinely in gentoo.
...
> Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance tasks like this?

You might want to look into the debian-reference package.  It is also
available on the web at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/.

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Re: Thunar: Freeze when trying to open webdav folder

[Linux-Fan]

On 01/03/2014 04:43 PM, hasgar...@hellshell.de wrote:
> Hello List,
> 
> I could not find a bug report to this, so I ask anyone if she can confirm:
> 
> I run wheezy with XFCE as desktop env. I just made a fresh
> installation today.
> I wanted to open a webdav folder by:
> 
> Open Thunar
> Click on "Gehe zu" ("Go to"?)

"Go"

> "Ort öffnen" ("Place"?)

"Open Location"

> Then I begin to type "https" and when I type ":" the Thunar window
> freezes immediately.
> 
> Anyone can confirm this?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> hasgarion

Confirmed.

I run Thunar on Debian amd64 without XFCE so XFCE does not seem to be
the source of the problem. Also, if you wait a minute, the window will
become responsitive again. Strace says it hangs at

poll([{fd=23, events=POLLIN}], 1, 6

hence the 60 seconds delay.

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Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 08:44:49AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in
> Debian that I do routinely in gentoo.
> 
> I've read man apt-get, but didn't find answers to these questions.
> What I'm looking for is the equivalent commands in debian to achieve
> the same things.
> 
> In gentoo, I routinely perform pretend updates to see what updates
> are available, so a process like:
> 
> eix-sync
> to synchronizes the local repo with the online one
> 
> eix packagename
> shows all available versions of that package, and what repo they
> reside in (stable, testing, etc)
> 
> emerge --pretend -vuDN world
> results in a list of all available updates, as well as any
> dependencies that would be installed, which I can then pick and
> choose from. I usually wait until newly available updates have been
> available for at least a few days before installing them, to avoid
> nasty surprises.
> 
> Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance tasks like this?
> 
> Thanks
> 

apt-get install debian-handbook

That should sort many of your questions :)

AndyC


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Thunar: Freeze when trying to open webdav folder

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Hello List,

I could not find a bug report to this, so I ask anyone if she can confirm:

I run wheezy with XFCE as desktop env. I just made a fresh
installation today.
I wanted to open a webdav folder by:

Open Thunar
Click on "Gehe zu" ("Go to"?)
"Ort öffnen" ("Place"?)
Then I begin to type "https" and when I type ":" the Thunar window
freezes immediately.

Anyone can confirm this?

Thank you,

hasgarion
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Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

[Miles Fidelman]

Brian wrote:

On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 08:44:49 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:


I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in
Debian that I do routinely in gentoo.

eix-sync
to synchronizes the local repo with the online one



Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance tasks like this?

apt-get(8) and apt-cache(8).

"The Debian System, Concepts and Techniques" by Martin Krafft, 
(http://debiansystem.info/) to be a pretty good reference to how things 
are organized in Debian.  Probably the most comprehensive writeup on 
Debian package management that I've seen, and some good sections on 
system admin as well. Might be a little dated though (2005) - things 
have changed a bit.


You might want to browse through http://www.debian.org/doc/books

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Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

[John Hasler]

Sven Hartge writes:
> Depending on which version of Debian you installed, you will rarely get
> any updates at all. Wheezy (7.x) is stable and only get security updates
> and major bug fixes via point releases about every two months:
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases

Don't wait for the point releases.  You should have security in your
sources, subscribe to the security list, and do updates as required to
get security fixes.
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Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

[Brian]

On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 08:44:49 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:

> I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in
> Debian that I do routinely in gentoo.
> 
> eix-sync
> to synchronizes the local repo with the online one

   apt-get update

> eix packagename
> shows all available versions of that package, and what repo they
> reside in (stable, testing, etc)

   apt-cache 

and

   apt-cache policy 

> emerge --pretend -vuDN world
> results in a list of all available updates, as well as any
> dependencies that would be installed, which I can then pick and
> choose from. I usually wait until newly available updates have been
> available for at least a few days before installing them, to avoid
> nasty surprises.

   apt-get upgrade -s

or

   apt-get dist-upgrade -s

The '-s' can be omitted if more than one package is to installed.

> Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance tasks like this?

apt-get(8) and apt-cache(8).


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Re: New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

[Sven Hartge]

Tanstaafl  wrote:

> In gentoo, I routinely perform pretend updates to see what updates are
> available, so a process like:

Depending on which version of Debian you installed, you will rarely get
any updates at all. Wheezy (7.x) is stable and only get security updates
and major bug fixes via point releases about every two months:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases

Only Testing and Unstable receive daily updates.

If you use Testing or Unstable, I advise you to install the packages
apt-listchanges and apt-listbugs.

> eix-sync
> to synchronizes the local repo with the online one

apt-get update

> eix packagename
> shows all available versions of that package, and what repo they reside 
> in (stable, testing, etc)

apt-cache show 

or

apt-cache policy 

> emerge --pretend -vuDN world
> results in a list of all available updates, as well as any dependencies 
> that would be installed, which I can then pick and choose from. I 
> usually wait until newly available updates have been available for at 
> least a few days before installing them, to avoid nasty surprises.

apt-get -s dist-upgrade

If you want to upgrade only a subset of packages, just use

apt-get install  [ ...]

> Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance tasks like this?

You may want to start reading at
https://wiki.debian.org/SystemAdministration 


Grüße,
Sven.

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SOLVED: Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

[Tanstaafl]

On 2014-01-03 8:43 AM, Brian  wrote:

On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 07:29:52 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:


Since I've configured eth0 for a static IP, why are these DHCP
requests even happening? I've looked in /etc/init.d and don't see
anything about a DHCP client. And most importantly, how do I stop
them? I know I could probably uninstall DHCP client, but that
doesn't seem like the proper solution.



You could start by taking a look at the thread at

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/10/msg00434.html


Perfect, thanks... googling didn't reveal that thread... :(

Since I hadn't cp'd my original /etc/network/interfaces file (so I 
couldn't do the 'ifdown -i  /etc/network/interfaces.bak eth0' part, I 
just found/killed the running dhcp client process.


Seems to have taken care of it.

Thx again


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New to Debian (Gentoo user) - package management

[Tanstaafl]

Hello all,

I have some questions about how to do certain maintenance tasks in 
Debian that I do routinely in gentoo.


I've read man apt-get, but didn't find answers to these questions. What 
I'm looking for is the equivalent commands in debian to achieve the same 
things.


In gentoo, I routinely perform pretend updates to see what updates are 
available, so a process like:


eix-sync
to synchronizes the local repo with the online one

eix packagename
shows all available versions of that package, and what repo they reside 
in (stable, testing, etc)


emerge --pretend -vuDN world
results in a list of all available updates, as well as any dependencies 
that would be installed, which I can then pick and choose from. I 
usually wait until newly available updates have been available for at 
least a few days before installing them, to avoid nasty surprises.


Is there a decent manual describing basic maintenance tasks like this?

Thanks


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Re: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

[Brian]

On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 07:29:52 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:

> Since I've configured eth0 for a static IP, why are these DHCP
> requests even happening? I've looked in /etc/init.d and don't see
> anything about a DHCP client. And most importantly, how do I stop
> them? I know I could probably uninstall DHCP client, but that
> doesn't seem like the proper solution.

You could start by taking a look at the thread at

   https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/10/msg00434.html


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Re: Dovecot *requires* MySQL?

[Intense Red]

On Thursday, January 02, 2014 10:04:33 PM Jordan Metzmeier wrote:
> Dovecot does not require mysql. The dovecot-common package
> recommends dovecot-mysql. Apt installs recommended packages by
> default, but they are not required. You can exclude recommended
> packages with --no-install-recommends.

   And to do this without adding the command-line parameter, edit the file 
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20norecommends putting:

   APT {
  Install-Recommends "false";
   };

into it, and/or use the command

echo 'APT::Install-Recommends "0";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf


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Half-OT: New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 07:29 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
> (Debian and FreeBSD being the top contenders)

There's a Debian BSD port too:

https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD

And Arch Linux provides a FreeBSD port like approach:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Build_System

I made bad experiences with kFreeBSD. My "main" distro is Arch Linux. I
prefer Arch over Debian regarding to my exotic need, audio production
and the license policy of Debian, e.g. Linuxsampler doesn't fit to
Debian's policy regarding to it's license. IOW awesome software often
needs to be compiled by your own for Debian and it could become an
issue, when using Debian stable.

Debian Linux is closer to FreeBSD (I also have a FreeBSD install), than
Arch Linux is, since Arch comes with sytemd. I suspect that Debian will
drop init scripts too.

For servers likely Debian stable is the best way to go, but I don't have
experiences with this and if you need to compile software from upstream
you anyway need to switch to testing or unstable.

Just some thoughts,
Ralf



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New to Debian (I'm a Gentoo user) - static IP vs DHCP

[Tanstaafl]

Hello all,

First posting to the list. I'm a long time Gentoo user, but I'm playing 
with my first Debian system since many years ago.


I've been considering a wholesale change to another distro (Debian and 
FreeBSD being the top contenders) for some time now due to some of the 
changes that have happened in the last year or two with gentoo (won't go 
into details). I will soon be rolling out a new groupware system (SOGo) 
that is not supported on gentoo or FreeBSD, so Debian (no way I'm going 
RedHat) is the obvious choice for this new server - and since SOGo 
doesn't officially support FreeBSD, I will most likely use Debian for 
the new mail server as well.


I'll be posting a series of questions trying to get my head around the 
differences between Debian and Gentoo. I will rtfm as much as possible, 
but I have some questions that I need to address fairly quickly to get 
this new SOGo server ready for implementation, so some of my questions 
may seem lazy, but that will only be because time is short. Specific 
answers are appreciated, but pointers to the docs are absolutely sufficient.


First question is, I have set the system to a static IP and restarted 
the network service:


less /etc/network/interfaces

# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
#allow-hotplug eth0
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address ###.###.###.###
gateway ###.###.###.###
netmask 255.255.255.0
network ###.###.###.###
broadcast ###.###.###.###

service networking --full-restart

But, every 10-20 seconds, I'm seeing DHCP requests in the logs (they are 
being blocked by the firewall - I'm paranoid, and implement both inbound 
AND outbound rules):



Jan  3 07:12:30 sogo dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to ###.###.###.### port 67
Jan  3 07:12:30 sogo dhclient: send_packet: Operation not permitted
Jan  3 07:12:30 sogo kernel: [12868185.930627] (fw>): IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=###.###.###.### DST=###.###.###.### LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF 
PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308
Jan  3 07:12:49 sogo dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to ###.###.###.### port 67
Jan  3 07:12:49 sogo dhclient: send_packet: Operation not permitted
Jan  3 07:12:49 sogo kernel: [12868204.222463] (fw>): IN= OUT=eth0 
SRC=###.###.###.### DST=###.###.###.### LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=0 DF 
PROTO=UDP SPT=68 DPT=67 LEN=308


Since I've configured eth0 for a static IP, why are these DHCP requests 
even happening? I've looked in /etc/init.d and don't see anything about 
a DHCP client. And most importantly, how do I stop them? I know I could 
probably uninstall DHCP client, but that doesn't seem like the proper 
solution.


Thanks

Charles


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Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

[Zenaan Harkness]

On 1/3/14, Brian  wrote:
> On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 16:28:05 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> On 12/13/13, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
>> >
>> > Clearly consolekit is started (logout, as well as reboot etc now
>> > work), my keyboard shortcuts work etc.
>> >
>> > This seems ideal - no per-user configuration, and it just works
>> > (TM)(C)(R).
>>
>> This stopped working after a recent upgrade, since I too quickly
>> allowed apt to overwrite my change in /etc/pam.d/common-session
>
> Practise safe upgrading; always say 'no'.

:)

My thinking is usually "I'm running sid, feedback re default config is
sometimes useful to the project and therefore benefits go beyond
myself, for a little short term pain".


> >From pam-auth-update(8):
>
>If the user specifies that pam-auth-update should override
>local configuration changes, the locally-modified files will
>be saved in /etc/pam.d/ with a suffix of .pam-old.
>
> Any sign of .pam-old files?

Yes, common-session.pam-old is right there, with the "missing" line.

>> Is there any reason that the following, from
>> /usr/share/doc/xfce4-session/README.Debian :
>>
>>* install libpam-ck-connector
>>* put:
>>
>>
>>session   optional  pam_loginuid.so
>>
>>
>>*before* pam_ck_connector.so in /etc/pam.d/common-session.
>>
>> is _not_ part of the default install for Debian?
>
> Consolekit may not be on the system.

That's the point - this line:

  session optionalpam_ck_connector.so nox11

was already there;
I had to add the following line:

  session optionalpam_loginuid.so

I'm wondering why this line (directly above) cannot be included by
default - it does say "optional" after all ???


>> $ dpkg -S /etc/pam.d/common-session
>> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /etc/pam.d/common-session
>>
>> I guess it must be generated by a script or something. What's the
>> process or rather command line command for determining which script
>> created a particular file such as this one?
>
>brian@desktop:~$ dpkg -S common-session

Ahh thank you. dpkg -S, but with "basename" not fully qualified path.

>libpam-runtime: /usr/share/pam/common-session.md5sums
>libpam-runtime: /usr/share/pam/common-session-noninteractive.md5sums
>libpam-runtime: /usr/share/pam/common-session
>libpam-runtime: /usr/share/pam/common-session-noninteractive
>
> libpam-runtime's postinst script copies /usr/share/pam/common-session to
> /etc/pam.d/common-session.


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Re: Debian Wheezy Compromised - www-data user is sending 1000 emails an hour

[Joel Rees]

On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:49 AM, Bob Proulx  wrote:
> [...pointers to linux containers and stow...]
> Interesting posting concerning lxc on Debian:
>
>   
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/freedombox-discuss/2013-February/005097.html
>
> The other idea was GNU stow.
>
>   https://www.gnu.org/software/stow/manual/stow.html#Introduction
>
> And here is an article about using it.
>
>   
> http://brandon.invergo.net/news/2012-05-26-using-gnu-stow-to-manage-your-dotfiles.html

I've kept ignoring those, I think it's time to take a look sometime
soon. Thanks.

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Re: /usr/sbin/alternatives-update missing

[Brian]

On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 19:20:57 +1100, Sam Varghese wrote:

> i am running the testing stream on a fairly
> old laptop.
> 
> At the end of every upgrade, I get this message:
> sh: 1: /usr/sbin/update-alternatives: not found

Does bug #720575 help in tracking this down?

   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=720575

> i am not subscribed to the list, and would, thus, appreciate being copied in.

Done.


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Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

[Brian]

On Fri 03 Jan 2014 at 16:28:05 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

> On 12/13/13, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> >
> > Clearly consolekit is started (logout, as well as reboot etc now
> > work), my keyboard shortcuts work etc.
> >
> > This seems ideal - no per-user configuration, and it just works (TM)(C)(R).
> 
> This stopped working after a recent upgrade, since I too quickly
> allowed apt to overwrite my change in /etc/pam.d/common-session

Practise safe upgrading; always say 'no'.

>From pam-auth-update(8):

   If the user specifies that pam-auth-update should override
   local configuration changes, the locally-modified files will
   be saved in /etc/pam.d/ with a suffix of .pam-old.

Any sign of .pam-old files?
 
> Is there any reason that the following, from
> /usr/share/doc/xfce4-session/README.Debian :
> 
>* install libpam-ck-connector
>* put:
> 
>
>session   optional  pam_loginuid.so
>
> 
>*before* pam_ck_connector.so in /etc/pam.d/common-session.
> 
> is _not_ part of the default install for Debian?

Consolekit may not be on the system.

> $ dpkg -S /etc/pam.d/common-session
> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /etc/pam.d/common-session
> 
> I guess it must be generated by a script or something. What's the
> process or rather command line command for determining which script
> created a particular file such as this one?

   brian@desktop:~$ dpkg -S common-session
   libpam-runtime: /usr/share/pam/common-session.md5sums
   libpam-runtime: /usr/share/pam/common-session-noninteractive.md5sums
   libpam-runtime: /usr/share/pam/common-session
   libpam-runtime: /usr/share/pam/common-session-noninteractive

libpam-runtime's postinst script copies /usr/share/pam/common-session to
/etc/pam.d/common-session.


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/usr/sbin/alternatives-update missing

[Sam Varghese]

i am running the testing stream on a fairly
old laptop.

At the end of every upgrade, I get this message:
sh: 1: /usr/sbin/update-alternatives: not found

i have looked around for answers but have found none.

i would be grateful if someone could give me a pointer as to what the isue is
and how it can be corrected.

i am not subscribed to the list, and would, thus, appreciate being copied in.

thanks,
sam

(sam varghese)
debian user since 2000


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