Re: A good book on C Programming?
Thus spake Gavin Henry: I need some good books. I used to have one called A Book On C, but sold it, and I have been reading various tutorials on the web and the many devoted websites. Anyone have any recommendations? I always suggest picking up a copy of The C Programming Language by Kernighan and Ritchie. That's the classic C book that I think everyone should have. If you decide to go with C++, then you should pick up a copy of The C++ Programming Language by Bjarne Stroustrup -- it's the tome for C++. One more question, should I go for C or C++? Which will benefit me more with GNU/Linux? It sort of depends on what you want to do. The Linux kernel, most system libraries, and GNOME/GTK+ applications use C. KDE/Qt applications use C++. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only way you can do that [decrease taxes, balance the budget, and increase military spending] is with mirrors, and that's what it would take. - John B. Anderson signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debootstrap
Thus spake Emma Jane Hogbin: I'd like to use the RPM that is referred to in both of the documents I'm reading. It says it's supposed to be here, but I get 403 forbidden. Any ideas? http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/debootstrap I don't believe people.debian.org is back yet (following the compromise). You might try searching for the filename, and seeing if google is nice enough to turn up someone else's local copy of it. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Like so many Americans, she was trying to construct a life that made sense from things she found in gift shops. -- Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Convert ext2 to ext3?
Thus spake Scarletdown: I'm in the process of putting Debian on my test-system, and I noticed that the filesystem defaults to ext2.#160; Is there an easy way to nondestructively convert to ext3? tune2fs -j PARTITION Then simply change fstab to mount them as ext3 instead of ext2. If you're converting your root partition, a reboot will be in order, since you won't be able to umount/mount it to make the change take effect. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Never chase a lie. Let it alone, and it will run itself to death. I can work out a good character much faster than anyone can lie me out of it. - Lyman Beecher signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: finding what is using a mount point
Thus spake Andrew Schulman: fuser -m /home/micha/tmp Sometimes this doesn't give you much useful information. But you can still kill whatever process is using it with fuser -k /home/micha/tmp Since just an fuser -m /mountpoint just lists pids, I like using the -v option as well, since it lists things in a psuedo-ps format: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fuser -vm / USERPID ACCESS COMMAND /root 1 m init root157 m portmap ... -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tactical? TACTICAL!?!? Hey, buddy, we went from kilotons to megatons several minutes ago. We don't need no stinkin' tactical nukes. (By the way, do you have change for 10 million people?) -- Larry Wall signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Converting a partition from NTFS to Ext3
Thus spake Frederico Rodrigues Abraham: Hi. How can i do this without losing the data on my NTFS partition? This is the final step for moving completely from windows to linux! yay! Thanks You can't convert the partition in-place, you'll have to copy the data somewhere else, format it as ext3, and then copy it back. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] So the former ruffian picked up and tiny faerie and... signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian MSN clients can't connect
Thus spake Pigeon: Having installed Debian on a mate's PC, his kids are complaining because they can't get onto MSN Messenger... Anybody got any ideas what's going on here / what to check? MSN blocked older clients - same with Yahoo. Download Gaim 0.71, or at least the 0.70-2 that's in unstable. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] A zebra does not despise its stripes signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Graphing/Charting software
Thus spake Ian Melnick: What'd be nice is just a simple text-based program that outputs a nice postscript-type graph. Does such a program exist? And if so, does it do anything close to what I need? Have you tried gnuplot? -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] You know, I'm just guessing, guys, but since this is a Corman film we'd better get used to this scenery. -Joel. #315 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: installing oracle9i
Thus spake Louie Miranda: hey guys, i just downloaded Oracle9i Database Release 2 on oracle.com its composed of 3huge 500mb+ files. I transfferred it to my shell only server. and did the instructions as told on the website of oracle. but, when i tried running ./runInstaller on Disk1 it ask me for a DISPLAY so i just export a setting. And found out that Oracle must be run on a GUI?. Hm, is there other solutions here? Not that I personally am aware of. To the best of my knowledge (I'm sure someone else will correct me if I'm wrong), the Oracle installer must have an X display to run (It's a java gui). -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whenever you are sincerely pleased you are nourished. - Ralph Waldo Emerson signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: sudden vim problem in mutt
Thus spake Ric Otte: Hi, I've been using mutt with vim for a couple of years with no problem. But recently I've noticed that when I reply and begin inserting text (on the same line as, and right before the original message), the line does not wrap when I get to 77 spaces (what I have set in .vimrc). What happens is that the text just continues on the next line, and I end up with a very long line, unless I hit Enter (it doesn't matter if I insert spaces in the text). Strangely enough, this does not happen if I am simply using vim or gvim outside of mutt. I can even write an email message to a file, and have the lines wrap when editing with vim, but it won't do it when vim is called from mutt. Even more strange, sometimes vim will begin wrapping the lines later in the message, but I am not sure how to reproduce this. I do not believe I've changed my .muttrc settings, but I might have changed something when pasting in quotations or adding vimspell to .vim/plugins. Unfortunately I can't remember what I have done, if anything. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Try using something like this in your .muttrc : set editor=vim -c 'set notitle ft=mail tw=72 expandtab noautoindent' -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the part where the Zagnut is fertilized by the salted nut roll... -Joel. #413 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Package update
Thus spake Vivek Kumar: Hi all, How can I update only one package rather then updating all the packages ?? apt-get update; apt-get install package -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] When two people are under the influence of the most violent, most insane, most delusive, and most transient of passions, they are required to swear that they will remain in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting condition continuously until death do them part. -George Bernard Shaw. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Uppercasing filenames
Thus spake Bijan Soleymani:
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 05:52:44PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
#!/usr/bin/perl
@files=`ls`;
foreach $file (@files)
{
chomp $file;
if(-f $file)
{
$newname = uc $file;
`mv $file $newname`;
oops that should be:
`mv $file $newname`;
So that files with spaces won't screw up.
Of course, if you're going to use perl...
rename y/a-z/A-Z/ *
--
Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
America is a large friendly dog in a small room. Every time it wags
its tail it knocks over a chair. -- Arnold Toynbee
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Re: Improved responsiveness: Galeon over remote X11
Thus spake Karsten M. Self: allow use of a slow but quiet and cool PPro 180Mhz 256MB as X The notably exception is Galeon, which...seems...to...freeze...or...lag... particularly when opening or closing tabs. Scrolling pages can be jumpy (wheel mouse). Otherwise, once a page is loaded, response is pretty good. I use a userContent.css with on-hover highlighting of links -- this responds quickly (pretty much instantaneously). It's the tab open/clse events which seem to throw it. Just out of curiosity, are you using antialiased fonts? If so, have you tried disabling them? It very well may not give you any difference in performance, but if I'm thinking properly the antialiasing will be happening on the client end (i.e., the slow machine), which could in theory cause some icky slowness. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whenever they test nuclear bombs, it's the monsters who suffer. -**. #212 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Improved responsiveness: Galeon over remote X11
Thus spake Karsten M. Self: I am, I think. Where would I check? Unfortunately, I don't know how you would change that in Galeon...I haven't used it in quite a while. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] I consider myself an average man, except in the fact that I consider myself an average man. - Michel de Montaigne signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Disk I/O stalling whole system ..
Thus spake Mariano Kamp: Hi, when copying from one ide disk to another ide disk on the the same controller the whole systems stalls. I am running 2.4.19 on unstable. When renicing the copying processes it works ok, but I am not sure if that is the solution. And if that is, how would I do this efficiently. Looking a top and renicing by hand is a bit annoying to me ;-) Welcome to the wonderful world of IO scheduling in the 2.4 kernels. The noticable impact of such IO should be reduced in 2.4.22, but for a real fix you'll have to wait for the new IO scheduling code in the 2.6 tree. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] She feels for me, and I feel for her, and we're free to express it.. --*naked*. -Cabot/Crow (as Cabot). #519 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: syntax highlighting in vim
Thus spake Emma Jane Hogbin: Sometimes when I'm searching for strings in Vim the syntax highlighting gets turned off. I'm unable to reset it unless I (1) quit the program; (2) scroll to the top of the page and then scroll back down. Has anyone else experienced this problem? I'm using 6.1.474. It tends to only happen with longer files. My current file is 1250Lines and is technically [dos] format (although it's just a PHP file). Any solutions would be much appreciated. The switch to Emacs type of solution will be silently ignored. ;) I've seen syntax highlighting get messed up and just sort of turn off, with the same characteristics, but only with much older vim versions (5.x days). I routinely edit C files much longer than 1250 lines, and haven't seen it with the vim in unstable. (The only place I've seen it is on a Redhat 6.2 machine). It could possibly be a bug in the PHP syntax highlighting... Next time it happens, try: :syntax off :syntax on If it happens regularly, you might even want to bind a key combination to those. (Or file a bug report) -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individuality is the aim of political liberty. - James Fenimore Cooper pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Howto get one (1) file from an rpm ???
Thus spake Michael D Schleif: First, I need to know -- for certain -- whether or not the file I am looking for is inside the RPM's that I have. Second, how can I extract that one (1) file from the RPM? What do you think? 1) To find out which package an installed file belongs to: rpm -qf /some/file To find out what files an installed package contains: rpm -ql package To find out which files an rpm contains: rpm -qlp file.rpm 2) To extract the files from an rpm: rpm2cpio file.rpm | cpio -id -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used to be an adult before I grew up. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: let's remove fortran from my system
Thus spake Dan Jacobson: # apt-cache show pdl Description: The perl data language. Perl extensions for numerics. looks threatening to the system. Ok, better quit while I'm ahead. You can likely do without it. It's used mainly for very numerically intensive things... I believe the gimp-perl package depends on it, for instance. But, if nothing is depending upon it, you can safely remove it. I don't have it installed on several of my machines, I believe. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] A computer is like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no mercy. - Joseph Campbell pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sshd stop working
Thus spake Micha Feigin: When I try to connect to sshd on my computer from either outside, or localhost I get the following error: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host How do I solve this? Check in /etc/hosts.deny ...do you have ALL: PARANOID uncommented? If you do, and your machine does not reverse-resolve to the same name (i.e., foo.bar.com returns 10.3.5.7, but a lookup on 10.3.5.7 returns bar.foobar.com), then I believe sshd will exhibit behavior similar to what you're seeing. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] When a true genius appears in this world you may know him by the sign that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozilla Firebird
Thus spake David Purton: On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 07:48:49AM +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote: 2. How can I make popup windows in new tabs rather than new windows by default? There is a tabbed browsing extension available from the firebird site that gives you a fair bit more control over tabs. I think you can setup the above behaviour with it. see http://texturizer.net/firebird/extensions.html You can also apt-get install mozilla-tabextensions -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Solitude, though it may be silent as light, is like light, the mightiest of agencies; for solitude is essential to man. All men come into this world alone and leave it alone. - Thomas De Quincey pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Toolchain to run 2.6 kernel?
Thus spake Viktor Rosenfeld: Since the module code has changed (once again) in 2.6, I guess I need new utils to accompany the new kernel. Is that in unstable already? module-init-tools -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Buying on trust is the way to pay double. - Anonymous pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PDF viewing and such
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 02:12:46PM -0400, Aaron wrote: I am wondering what everyone here uses to view PDF files in Linux these days? I do use text2pdf for instances where I only care about the textual content, but copying the PDF to OS X or Windows to view it in Reader is getting cumbersome. Recommendations? Yet another solution is to use Adobe's Acrobat Reader for Linux. http://download.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/unix/5.x/linux-507.tar.gz Alternatively, you can add one of the following lines to your /etc/apt/source.list (depending on what you're running), and then apt-get update; apt-get install acroread (There's also an acroread-plugin package so you can view PDF's in Mozilla / Konq / Old Netscape) deb http://marillat.free.fr/ stable main deb http://marillat.free.fr/ testing main deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Idolatry is in a man's own thought, not in the opinion of another. - John Selden pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: x-pstn header?
Thus spake Steve Lamb: Does anyone know what puts the x-pstn header into mail I believe it's Trend Micro Spam Prevention Service -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Irony is an insult conveyed in the form of a compliment. - Edwin Percy Whipple pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mplayer problem
Thus spake J. Smith: VO: [fbdev] 352x288 = 384x288 Planar YV12 fbdev: Can't put VSCREENINFO: Invalid argument init_vo failed I think that's fairly explanatory. It's trying to use the framebuffer for video output. Are you using a framebuffer console? Try using -vo x11 -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] If well thou hast begun, go on; it is the end that crowns us, not the fight. - Robert Herrick pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mplayer problem
Please see my earlier message in reply to your first mail. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200307/msg02915.html snip repeated email -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] I never dared be radical when young for fear it would make me conservative when old. - Robert Frost pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Obscure Perl modules
Thus spake Leif B. Kristensen: However, I wonder if there is any correspondence between a package name such as it appears on say, CPAN, and the Debian package names? Shouldn't the original module name be referred to on the package page? http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/perl-policy/ch-module_packages.html#s-package_names Secondly, what is the easiest way to obtain documentation on any package residing on packages.debian.org? The abovementioned url was certainly not very helpful with a link to the plain old documentation. In this example, just a link to http://search.cpan.org/author/JANPAZ/DBD-XBase-0.234/lib/XBase.pm would have gone a long way. Ideally, any documentation following the original package should be directly accessible from packages.debian.org. Install the package and read the documentation. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Romance: the seduction of someone's mind, to make them feel that they are the most special person in the world. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Obscure Perl modules
Thus spake Leif B. Kristensen: Ahem. So, in order to find one package of interest, I should install a random number of packages and read the documentation afterwards? Or, maybe I could run an apt-get install * and be finished with it once and for all? Thank you for a really imaginative suggestion. You asked what you should do to read the documentation from a package. If you want to read a package's documentation, you should install or at least download the package. Not rocket science there. If your intent is to browse the documentation for dozens of random packages in the hope that you might need one, I would submit that you're going about it wrong. If your intent is to browse the documentation for dozens of packages in order to determine if one will meet your needs, I would submit that you should instead use a search engine. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. - Oscar Wilde pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SSL on Apache
Thus spake Francisco Castellon: Hello list: I am wanting to use SSL on apache and I am a bit confused as to how to go about it. I know that I could use CPAN to install mod_ssl but then is CPAN is an archive for Perl modules. An Apache module != a Perl module. that all I need or is that the best route to go? I also saw that Debian has a package (Apt-cache show) called Apache-ssl but then there is also a library package called openssl. SO I don't know which way to go. As apache-ssl is a version of Apache with SSL support linked in at compile-time rather than through the DSO mechanism. The openssl package provides the openssl binary and related cryptographic tools. well, if I were to install apache-ssl which is the one that looks like it has everything would that conflict with the apache configuration I have already since I already installed php4? You likely want to install libapache-mod-ssl, and modify your Apache configuration to load the module. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To be a man's own fool is bad enough; but the vain man is everybody's. - William Penn pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: gaim: keyboard shortcut for switching between tabbed IM/Chat tabs?
Thus spake Mike Fedyk: Hi, Is there a keyboard shortcut in gaim to switch between IM/Chat tabs when they're in one window with seperate tabs? Alt-N, where N is one of the numeric keys, such as 1, 2, 3, etc... will jump you to tab N -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death! -- Patrick Henry pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why mozilla always starts five instances??
Thus spake Zhao You Bing: And every one cost 58M memory, How to make mozilla only start one process?? It doesn't start 5 instances, and each one is not taking up 58M memory. Mozilla is a multithreaded program. Under Linux, each thread appears to be a separate process, but in reality they share memory space. Thus, what you see in 'ps' or 'top' may *appear* to be 5 processes, each taking up 58M memory, but is in reality 1 process (with multiple threads), which takes up a *total* of 58M memory. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nature encourages no looseness, pardons no errors. - Ralph Waldo Emerson pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozilla Very Very slow in rendering
Thus spake Mark C: Hi, I'm not sure if its me going mad, but every version of mozilla using xf build from testing/unstable seems to render very very slow, in terms of UI and web pages, but on the same box under redhat mozilla loads and renders fine (just everything else in rh is slow) Is the redhat mozilla using XFT? I'd guess offhand no... This is the same for galeon, and firebird, are there any debian specific patches that may cause this slowdown? FWIW, I'm runnnig 1GB DDR ram and a Athlon 1.3 Thunderbird CPU, with an ata 100 hdd. Out of curiosity, are you running an NVidia card? If so, you can use: Option RenderAccel on In the device section of your X configuration. I've found that it gives a noticable boost in the rendering speeds with an XFT build of mozilla*. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nothing is ever lost by courtesy. It is the cheapest of the pleasures; costs nothing and conveys much. It pleases him who gives and him who receives, and thus, like mercy, it is twice blessed. - Erastus Wiman pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Eject problem
Thus spake Jerry Van Brimmer: /dev/hdc/cdromiso9660 ro,users,noauto 0 0 /dev/hdd/mnt/plextor iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 line those up a bit more, and you should see your problem. try changing 'users' to 'user'. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best security against revolution is in constant correction of abuses and the introduction of needed improvements. It is the neglect of timely repair that makes rebuilding necessary. -Richard Whately pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Games thru SSH
Thus spake Ian Melnick: Hello, all For a while I've been wanting to play games like doom and quake thru an ssh session. I would have settled for 'text mode' quake, but the older libraries provided with it segfault on my system. Then I thought maybe I could use dosemu; as people say doom runs in it, but I've had no luck; it seems to halt before completely loading. Is there any hope? Not really. Not if you're actually thinking that you can *play quake* over an ssh session. On a local lan, you *might* be able to do it (with a very low framerate), but there's no way you're going to be able to: - shove 30fps or so across an ssh connection - do any sort of serious graphics over the connection You might be able to get away with a very-very low framerate aalib-rendered game, but that's about all I can think of. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now is the Windows of our disk contents pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: RedHat support of Debian packages
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Our admin has a Redhat box set up and I would like to install a suite of medical imaging tools that are composed of Debian packages. Does Redhat support Debian packages (.deb)? Out of curiosity, which distros support these packages? Does Mandrake? Neither Redhat nor Mandrake support the use of Debian packages. You could attempt to use 'alien' to convert the packages to RPMs, but that is just as likely to cause the programs to fail as it is for them to work. A Redhat machine may not have (and in truth will most likely not have) the same versions of dependancies, or the same package names, and thus the dependancies could become hosed. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] The tragedy of war is that it uses man's best to do man's worst. - Harry Emerson Fosdick pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian rpm
Thus spake Louie Miranda: I just installed a rpm deb package manager, I just wonder. If I installed an rpm package where would it go? I mean don't it get confused on two package manager? Don't. Mixing package managers is Not Good. Really, the only reason you should install the 'rpm' package is to use rpm2cpio to extract files, or when you also install 'alien' to convert an RPM to a Debian package. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sometime they'll give a war and nobody will come. - Carl Sandburg pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt-get update gives an error message
Thus spake Rodney D. Myers: My apologies if this already made it to the list, but I have not seen it, and I sent it over 8 hours ago. apt-get update gives the following error message, when I try and use the following /etc/apt/sources.list; E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI) Well... what does your sources.list look like? -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your conscience never stops you from doing anything. It just stops you from enjoying it. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: deb http://people forbidden
Thus spake Marcelo Chiapparini: Hello, Anybody knows what's the problem with people.debian.org? I have the following line in my apt.souces: # xfree 4.2.1 for Woody. Gnome 2.2 needs it... deb http://people.debian.org/~blade/woody/i386 ./ and I get the following message when I run apt-get update: Err http://people.debian.org ./ Packages 403 Forbidden Likely because the directory is forbidden. See http://people.debian.org/~blade/woody/ From there: The backports of XFree86 are no longer maintained by me. You can use the builds from other maintainers, eg. from Adrian Bunk: deb http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian woody/bunk-1 main contrib non-free deb-src http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian woody/bunk-1 main contrib non-free For more apt-Sources, visit http://www.apt-get.org . -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it. - Andrew Jackson pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel 2.5.44
Thus spake Oki DZ: Hi, Are there any issues I should aware of in installing the Kernel version 2.5.44 on Sid? Would there any problem with modutils? You really might want to consider using a more recent version, the current development kernel is 2.5.73 As far as modules, you'll need to install module-init-tools -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] No self-respecting scientist would have his shirt unbuttoned that far. -Tom Servo. #106 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mozilla 1.3.1 java plugin
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Where? I couldn't find it. That or I think I already installed it and the 'update-alternatives --auto java' didn't do anything helpful ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/JDK-1.4.1/i386/01/j2re-1.4.1-01-linux-i586-gcc3.2.bin -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confess your sins to the Lord, and you will be forgiven; confess them to men, and you will be laughed at. - Josh Billings pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Correct Java for the Firebird package?
Thus spake Todd Pytel: I grabbed the nifty xft-enabled Moz-Firebird package for testing last week, but can't seem to get Java working on it. I was previously using Sun's 1.4.1_02 package along with the compatibility deb for the old C++ library - that worked fine on Debian's Mozilla and on mozilla.org's Phoenix/Firebird. But after trying various alternatives, the Debian Firebird package doesn't pick up on any of the plugins. Right now I've got Sun 1.4.1_03, which works in Mozilla 1.0.0, but not in Firebird. There are no error messages if I start Firebird from a terminal, and from what I can understand of the ldd output, both Mozilla-Firebird-bin and mozilla-bin are compiled against the same libraries. What am I missing here? You need to get the version from Blackdown specifically compiled with gcc 3.2. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just don't make the '9' format pack/unpack numbers... :-) -- Larry Wall pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig'
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]: However, I *do* have libncurses5 installed, as well as every other packages which matched a search for ncurses on my dselect. My sources for apt are set as libncurses5-dev -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be consistent. -- Larry Wall in the perl man page pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mozilla 1.3.1 java plugin
Thus spake Tom Allison: OK, I'm confused. I have a javaplugin_oji.so in whatever directory I'm supposed to have it in according to the mozilla dev website. Nothing works. I get that stupid busted puzzle piece. This was an upgrade to an existing mozilla installation that had a working java plug-in. Now what? Get the version of the Java plugin from Blackdown that's compiled with gcc 3.2. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] A book might be written on the injustice of the just. - Anthony Hope pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where's modversions.h ?
Thus spake John Little: I tried compiling a driver for my Tekram dc315 SCSI card in 3.0r0 using 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel. Compilation failed when make couldn't find modversions.h header file. I spent a couple of hours searching the kernel source but couldn't find it . I had to revert to my RedHat 8.0 setup, on which it compiled perfectly. The modversions.h file exists in the RH source for the 2.4.18 kernel, but I can't find it anywhere in the Debian 2.4.18 source. I've tried searching the web and found that a few others have had the same trouble compiling drivers against this kernel, but couldn't find an answer. Anyone know where modversions.h is? modversions.h is created during the make dep stage of a kernel compile. I believe you'll need to have a proper kernel source tree, configured and at least having had 'make dep' run on it. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Little minds are tamed and subdued by misfortune; but great minds rise above them. -Washington Irving pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: telnet: could not resolve
Thus spake Michal Kolesar: Hi all, i am using on all woody machines commands like telnet 0 25 or telnet 0 110 for telnet to localhost port. Since i upgraded to sarge on few machines telnet 0 port dont work: Any idea? Use localhost when you mean localhost? I wasn't aware that '0' was valid shorthand for localhost. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hate quotations. Tell me what you know --Ralph Waldo Emerson pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: memory leaks
Thus spake matt zagrabelny: hi, after boot my system runs out of memory in ~36-48 hours. i have rebooted my machine and let it sit there, only logging into a virtual console to run top. it still runs out of memory with no other user applications running than top. What do you mean by 'runs out of memory'? Do you get messages from the OOM killer as it slays processes in an attempt to free memory? If not, I would submit that you are not running out of memory. Linux will use all available free memory for cache and buffers, but this does not mean that it is out of memory, since the memory used by cache and buffers can (and will) be reclaimed by the kernel as it is needed. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] The job of the poet is to render the world-to see it and report it without loss, without perversion. No poet ever talks about feelings. Only sentimental people do. - Mark Van Doren pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: your mail
Thus spake Royer Kerwin: hello; please can someone tell me how tu unsuscribe ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] See above. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] We love force and we care very little how it is exhibited. - Ralph Waldo Emerson pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: C programming: Is there an exec (with no additional letters) call?
Thus spake Shaul Karl: I was told that similar to execl, execlp et al there is also an exec call. Yet when I run man exec I only get execl, execlp, execle, execv and execvp. No `pure' exec, one without any additional letters. Can I safely tell that person that he is definitely confusing the C system calls with shell or another interpreted language? If not, what arguments does exec takes, what is the return code and where is it documented? As far as I know, 'exec' is a shell command, execl, execv, execle, execlp and execvp are the C functions. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am mortified to be told that, in the United States of America, the sale of a book can become a subject of inquiry, and of criminal inquiry too. - Thomas Jefferson pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: cut command not working as expected
Thus spake David selby: I need to get the first two file names from a directory ... My code directory=$(ls -r --format=single-column) works perfect and gives me ... 20030617Jun17.tar.gz 20030616Jun16.tar.gz 20030615Jun15.tar.gz 20030301Mar01.tar.gz 20030222Feb22.tar.gz 20030215Feb15.tar.gz 20030208Feb08.tar.gz 20030205Feb05.tar.gz I want to cut the first two file names from the list ... To my way of thinking this should be easy ... cut -d' ' -f2 $directory The problem is that when you do that, cut is interpreting the contents of $directory to be a list of files to operate on. This means that cut will actually *perform the cut* on say, the contents of 20030205Feb05.tar.gz files=$(/bin/ls -1 | tail -2) Will leave $files containing the last 2 filenames. It's probably best to use it in some sort of loop, for file in $(/bin/ls -1 | tail -2); do # do something with each file here done -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is wild! I've never killed a guy like *this* before. Neat! -Joel (as Hercules). #410 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: vfat and ordinary users
Thus spake Ivan Wills: Hi I am trying to use a windows win32 (vfat) partition as an ordinary user but the permissions do not allow me to read it or write to it unless I am root. I have tried to chmod the mount location (with the partition mounted and unmounted) with no success. I also tried adding user to the options column in the fstab file but also with no success. /dev/hda1 /mnt/cdrivevfat defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 2 or, mount -t vfat -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/cdrive -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: compiling with g++ 3.3
Thus spake Shawn Lamson:
I refer to page:
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/libstdc++/17_intro/headers_cc.txt
which lists iostream as a standard library header. So why throw the
message from backward/backward_warning.h at me?
In addition, if I alter the #include to be
#include /usr/include/g++-3/iostream
then I still get the backward warning, but note that I don't have to
put .h after the iostream.
That's very bad practice. You should never put an absolute path to
a header file in an include statement...Especially for a standard
header.
The goal here is to have a program reading:
#include iostream
int main(){
coutHello, world!endl;
return 0;
}
If that's your goal, then what's the problem?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat test.cpp
//test.cpp
#include iostream
using namespace std;
int main()
{
coutHello, world!endl;
return 0;
}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ g++-3.3 -o test.out test.cpp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ./test.out
Hello, world!
Note the using namespace std; line. Once you simply #include iostream,
the only thing keeping it from compiling is the fact that cout and endl
are now in the std:: namespace. Thus, you can do one of the three
following things:
// assumes std:: in front of things
using namespace std;
// import into your namespace only the things you want
using std::cout;
using std::endl;
// always qualify the things you're using which exist
// in the std namespace
std::cout foobar std::endl;
P.S. - which libraries are best to use; /usr/include/g++-3/ or
/usr/include/c++/3.3/ ?
Neither should be used directly. The compiler will automatically search
those paths, unless you use -nostdinc or -nostdinc++
--
Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A duty dodged is like a debt unpaid; it is only deferred, and we must
come back and settle the account at last. - Joseph F. Newton
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Re: compiling with g++ 3.3
Thus spake Shawn Lamson: It actually doesn't look like it does search the /usr/include/g++-3/ directory. ignoring nonexistent directory /usr/i386-linux/include #include ... search starts here: #include ... search starts here: /usr/include/c++/3.3 /usr/include/c++/3.3/i386-linux /usr/include/c++/3.3/backward /usr/local/include /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/3.3/include /usr/include End of search list. --- should it be? Hrm. Nah, upon closer inspection, the g++3 directory appears to be used by gcc 2.95 GNU CPP version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease) (i386 Linux/ELF) #include ... search starts here: #include ... search starts here: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/../../../../include/g++-3 /usr/local/include /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/include /usr/include The /usr/include/c++/3.3 is what is used by the 3.x series, it appears. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Logic is neither a science nor an art, but a dodge. - Benjamin Jowett pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Pb using mii.o and eepro100
Thus spake Emmanuel Pinault: So to me it looks like eepro100 depends on mii but I cannot force eepro100 to use mii? with insmod I could not find how how would I use it with modprobe? modprobe modulename Will load all of modulename's dependencies, and then load modulename itself. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] What we anticipate seldom occurs; what we least expect generally happens. - Benjamin Disraeli pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: is it correct to specific a path name like this
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]: $PDB=~/.kde/share/apps/kpilot/DBBackup/Cool Joe/AddressDB.pdb $PDB=~/.kde/share/apps/kpilot/DBBackup/Cool Joe/AddressDB.pdb $PDB='~/.kde/share/apps/kpilot/DBBackup/Cool Joe/AddressDB.pdb' You're setting the shell variables incorrectly. PDB=~/.kde/share/apps/kpilot/DBBackup/Cool Joe/AddressDB.pdb export PDB or export PDB=~/.kde/share/apps/kpilot/DBBackup/Cool Joe/AddressDB.pdb Should both work fine. You should use quotes when dealing with filenames with spaces in them. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] The ONLY good cat is a stir fried cat -Alf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: qiv usage question
Thus spake stan: I really like qiv as used like this qiv -f -m -d 3 -s -r, it works a lot like my favorite fbi usgae. However, there is still one thing I'm having trouble with. When running it like that, acording to the man page, I should be able to use page up, or the right mouse click to go back an image. However this is not working for me. Instead they both take me foward an minage, just like page down od lef mouse. It's a side-effect of using the -r option to randomize the slideshow. With -r, it doesn't keep track of where it's been, so if you tell it to go back, it actually just goes back to a random image...giving it the same result as going forward. If you want to be able to go back and forth, use -S instead of -r. -r, --random Randomize slideshow. -S, --shuffle Shuffle images (random order with next/previous functionality). -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] I still miss you honey, but my aim is getting better. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: qiv usage question
Thus spake stan: This works, but it seems to not automaticlu go to the next image when the tiem tuns out. Am I missing somethign else? It does, but if you interrupt the slide show by clicking, the slide show is stopped. If you stop it, once you want it to start again, hit 's'. The key bindings are listed in the qiv man page. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have a lot of people revolutionizing the world because they've never had to present a working model. - Charles F. Kettering pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mozilla 1.3 and Java
Thus spake Luis Fernando Llana D?az: Hello all, I have installed the unstable version of mozilla (vers. 1.3) and j2sdk 1.4 from blackdown, I think that the links are right: Did you specifically get the version of the j2sdk that was compiled with gcc 3.2? I don't believe that the debs available of it are compiled with gcc 3.2 (they have not been updated in some time), in which case you'll likely need to just download the tarball and install it manually into /usr/local/java or some such location. ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/JDK-1.4.1/i386/01/j2re-1.4.1-01-linux-i586-gcc3.2.bin or ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/JDK-1.4.1/i386/01/j2sdk-1.4.1-01-linux-i586-gcc3.2.bin -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dissent, Make the most of yourself, for that is all there is of you. - Ralph Waldo Emerson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How does Linux shutdown?'
Thus spake Chun Kit Edwin Lau: Hi everyone, I am curious about how Linux does the shutdown. The kernel send the TERM signal to all processes when the shutdown is initiated. But does the kernel wait for the every process to finish before the kernel halt? If not, will there be data lost then? The various system init scripts are called in the proper order. After that, init sends a TERM signal to all processes. After a short delay, init sends a KILL signal to all remaining processes. Once everything in userspace is dead, it unmounts the filesystems and reboots the machine. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is better to be beautiful than to be good. But it is better to be good than to be ugly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDM won't start
Thus spake David Meiser: XFree86 Version 4.3.0 (DRI trunk) Release Date: 27 February 2003 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6 Build Operating System: Linux 2.5.67-mm3 i686 [ELF] Build Date: 06 May 2003 AUDIT: Tue Jun 10 01:19:38 2003: 4806 X: client 2 rejected from local h ost Auth name: XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1 ID: -1 Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Protocol not supported by server This is an issue with gcc 3.3 miscompiling parts of the key generation / validation routines at -O2. See any of several bugs filed about this on bugs.debian.org: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=196554 -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Everything comes to him who hustles while he waits. - Thomas A. Edison -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recent upgrade of unstable - xserver problems
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]: After upgrading, (but before rebooting), I had kde running, but some applications would refuse to run, with an error dialog stating that 'connection to 0:0 refused by server'. , and someting about 'invalid xdm authorization'. It appears that this is fixed in today's upload of 4.2.1-8, which should be propagated out by now... Try updating and upgrading again. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today's been a long week. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: is there any difference in upgrade and dist-upgrade on unstable?
Thus spake Grzesiek Sedek: Hi, Is there difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade running sid? Thanks from apt-get(8) dist-upgrade dist-upgrade, in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new ver- sions of packages; apt-get has a smart conflict resolution system, and it will attempt to upgrade the most important pack- ages at the expense of less important ones if necessary. An example that I've heard used before is that if a new version of a package requires another package to be removed, upgrade will not do it, but dist-upgrade will. I typically use dist-upgrade on all my unstable machines. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can't have filenames longer than 14 chars. You can't even think about them! -- Larry Wall in Configure from the perl distribution -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Password discrepancies
Thus spake Paul Johnson: 3. If I'm in Gnome, I do the same and I get a 'bad password' dialog box. Gnome is doing the right thing. Don't log in as root. Especially don't log in as root in X, KDE or Gnome. Open a terminal emulator and use su -m to get root in X. This is safer. It doesn't appear that he was actually logging into X as root. He described getting a box asking for the root password when going into some graphical configuration programs in KDE/Gnome... and Gnome wasn't accepting his password. To the poster, It would appear to be some sort of problem specific to Gnome. No, Gnome does not have its own password. The root password is the root password... there must be some sort of other problem causing it. Try looking at the .gnome-errors file in your home directory, to see if there's anything in there which might hint at the problem. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] I already have too much problem with people thinking the efficiency of a perl construct is related to its length. On the other hand, I'm perfectly capable of changing my mind next week... :-) -- Larry Wall pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sylpheed-claws won't compile - glibc is incorrect version
Thus spake Rodney D. Myers: it's looking for a file called gtk-config, which appears NOT to be installed; You will also need libgtk1.2-dev. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Philosophy, when superficially studied, excites doubt; when thoroughly explored, it dispels it. - Francis Bacon pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Alsa-user] Re: bizarre ALSA problems with SBLive... -- SOLVED
Thus spake Greg Norris: I couldn't find any relevant technical docs at Dell's site, but according to their FAQ it uses the EMU10K1X software-accelerated Digital Signal Processor. The card lists the model as SB0200, and the chip has EMU10K1X-DBQ printed on it. Apparently there's also a SB0203 model, which is just a minor revision. The emu10k1 driver doesn't support it... to the best of my knowledge, the only Linux driver for it can be found at: http://www.opensound.com/linux-x86.html It's not an open source driver however. It's neither Free nor free. http://www.opensound.com/readme/README.EMU10K1X.html for a little information on that specific card. A co-worker of mine purchased the drivers from them, but has not been satisfied with the sound quality. Last I'd heard, he was going to purchase a separate _normal_ sblive pci card and use it instead. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] This makes _Driving Miss Daisy_ look like _Bullitt_! -**. #512 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ALSA/SBLive problem
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 08:39:33PM -0600, Tom Schutter wrote: I am having problems setting up ALSA on my Debian box. When I try to play an OGG file using XMMS, XMMS hangs. When I try to play an OGG file using alsaplayer, I get no sound, and alsaplayer moves through the song at 30x. The soundcard is builtin on a Dell Dimension 4550, but it is advertised as a SoundBlaster Live! Getting into this thread late, but the soundcard on the newer Dells isn't one supprted by either the OSS or the ALSA emu10k1 drivers. It's actually a slightly different chipset. There's a driver available (neither free nor Free) from www.opensound.com. A co-worker purchased that driver, but hasn't been very satisfied with the quality of sound from it. You might want to poke around a bit more, looking for comments on it, before spending the money. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] The name is *Jeffrey*, I happen to be *in* a helicopter. -Crow (as Helicopter Pilot). #517 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome desktop icons are no longer showing
Thus spake Jeff Self: I'm running Debian unstable with Gnome 2.2 and Nautilus. Since yesterday afternoon, I noticed that my icons are missing. My Home, Start Here, Trash and other folders I created myself. I also don't have ability to right click on my desktop. Anybody know what I should look for? Or is this a new bug with something that was updated? Sounds like Nautilus is no longer running, since it takes care of drawing the icons and whatnot on the desktop. Have you restarted X recently, or did it just stop working while you left it up? If it's the latter, I would suspect that Nautilus simply crashed, and logging out of X and logging back in would likely restore your desktop. If however you have already done that, and Nautilus doesn't start up automatically, the cause is something else... -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] If a man be gracious and courteous to strangers, it shows he is a citizen of the world. - Francis Bacon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sylpheed-claws won't compile - glibc is incorrect version
Thus spake Rodney D. Myers: In attempting to ./configure , it complains about not having the latest glibc; checking for GLIB - version = 1.2.6... no glib isn't the same as glibc. glibc is the name of the GNU C Library, packaged as libc6. glib is a library used by GTK and Gnome apps. You want a version of libglib... From the looks of things, you'll need at least libglib1.2 and libglib1.2-dev -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] The true way to gain much, is never to desire to gain too much. - Francis Beaumont pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: help: APT - locked
Thus spake Guilherme Viebig: Hi all, I was remote updating my system with ssh when the connection was lost, all packages were downloaded. Now, when i try to redo apt-get upgrade, i get this message 40 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 74 not upgraded. E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the download directory That specific error looks suspiciously like you're running out of file descriptors on the system... What does cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr return? -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] The soil of a man's heart is stonier [...] A man grows what he can... and he tends it -- Stephen King, Pet Sematary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt can't lock
Thus spake Emma Jane Hogbin: I've got most of my important things configured now. But I'm having a weird problem with mutt. When I try to save an email to an existing directory it says: Couldn't lock /home/emmajane/Mail/IN-mbox? If I open up mutt as root and read through my mail I can save to folders. Any ideas what I need to tweak to get this to work? I've tried any number of permissions on my mail directory, but it doesn't seem to work (the mail is recovered from a CD so maybe there was a lock file somewhere before my computer died?). One thing to look for would be dotfiles in that directory... ls -la /path/to/dir If there's anything in there starting with a ., that would be suspicious. Another thing to think about is that if you just copied the files from a CD, the permissions on the files are likely set to be read-only (i.e. chmod 444'd). Check the permissions on the directories and the files themselves to make sure that they have write permissions for your user. Those are the only things that come to mind for me right now... -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] This man's wearing a push-up bra. Now *he's* pleasing! -Crow (as Prof. E.C. Buehler). #313 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian switching monitor off ?
Thus spake gaumer: I have a Debian box which basically just runs syslog. Every 10 mins or so, after no keyboard activity, Debian blanks the monitor out... xset -dpms xset dpms 0 0 0 xset s off That works for X, but if the machine is just running in console (which seems to be the case), there will need to be some setterm usage: setterm -blank 0 -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] The whole art of politics consists in directing rationally the irrationalities of men. - Reinhold Niebuhr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] email standard maximum line length
Thus spake Paul E Condon: I'm working on getting him to press carriage return from time to time as he types, but he is somewhat set in his ways. You might try to find out what MUA he's using (check the headers), and then find out where that particular MUA has an option for line wrapping. Most MUA's that I've encountered have an option _somewhere_ for the equivalent of Wrap long lines at X characters. Then again... some don't, I'm sure. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Revenge If you attempt to beat a man down and so get his goods for less than a fair price, you are attempting to commit burglary as much as though you broke into his shop to take the things without paying for them. There is cheating on both sides of the counter, - Henry Ward Beecher -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt select language for ispell
Thus spake Joao Clemente: Is there a way to select the language ispell uses for spell checking? I have both English and Portuguese dictionaries installed, but I don't see a way to tell mutt to choose Portuguese when I want to.. It always uses English, that is the default one... In your .muttrc, you can do: set ispell=some command here Thus, you could tell it to use ispell -d otherlanguage -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Correction: You have an hour and 37 minutes to disarm. And, yes, you *are* up a creek. -The Isaac Asimov Death Satellite. #104 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: VMS / WNT [was: Re: Official Exim 4 package]
Thus spake Pigeon: The so-called NT kernel? *Vax* code? Does that mean the jokes concerning Windows NT - WNT - one shift along from VMS have some substance? I thought they were based on the cyberspace version of a urban legend. (Would that be cyberpolitan legend?) See http://www.winntmag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?IssueID=97ArticleID=4494 The primary VMS architect went to work for Microsoft, and most of the core NT development team had formerly worked with VMS development. The similarities between the VMS and NT architectures are striking. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow--look! She really *is* smart! -Tom Servo. #106 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Intel compiler RPMs on Debian
error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - No such file or directory (2) Actually, this error is usually due to the RPM database not being initialized. As root, do an rpm --initdb And you shouldn't get that message anymore. However, it is probably best to simply use alien to convert the RPMs into debian packages. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is no more miserable human being than one in whom nothing is habitual but indecision. - William James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB not on after install
Thus spake Joan Tur: I installed from 1 Woody CD, then from the net. As both printer (Epson C82) and scanner (Epson 610) are usb I need usb support to be installed... but it is not by default: snip A few more details: 1. kernel installed is 2.2.20-idepci, 2. I have no usb* modules in /lib/modules 3. There's only 1 directory, called pci, at /proc/bus The -idepci kernel doesn't contain the usb modules, and you will need the userspace 'hotplug' package to take advantage of the usb support. You will most likely need to do the following: apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.20 hotplug It would probably be better to go to a 2.4 kernel -- I believe the usb support in 2.4 is more complete. (kernel-image-2.4.18-586 for a pentium-optimized kernel) After installing the kernel, and making sure /etc/lilo.conf is updated, and lilo has been run (unless you've switched to grub), you'll obviously need to reboot. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] By doing just a little every day, I can gradually let the task completely overwhelm me. -- Ashleigh Brilliant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to find out apt-get's reasoning
Thus spake Jonathan Matthews: I'm not asking anyone to tell me why my particular mix of sources is doing this, I'm wondering more if there's a grep-available or grep-dctrl invocation that might tell me which *installed* packages *depend* on kdelibs-data. Yes, I know kdelibs kdelibs4, but neither of them is installed. well, grep-available -F Depends -s Package kdelibs | cut -d' ' -f2 will show you a list of all packages which exist which depend on kdelibs. you can then do other things to that list... such as the very wonky and very very slow: for i in `grep-available -F Depends -s Package kdelibs | cut -d' ' -f2`; do dpkg -l $i | grep ^ii done (it would be a lot better to just toss all of the packages that grep-available returns into one long string and invoke dpkg once with that, and grep for those which are installed) -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Besides the practical knowledge which defeat offers, there are important personality profits to be taken. Defeat strips away false values and makes you realize what you really want. It stops you from chasing butterflies and puts you to work digging gold. - William Moulton Marston -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phoenix with java ..
Thus spake Sandip P Deshmukh: well, i use it only for viewing some sites. i see that several sites use java for tickers, etc. so i need a lightweight browser with java support. phoenix fits the bill, hence phoenix. Are you using a copy of phoenix from the phoenix project page on mozilla.org, or are you using the preliminary Debian packages from people.debian.org/~eric ? If you're using the latter, you're likely falling victim to the same thing that I am - namely, the fact that the phoenix .debs are compiled with gcc 3.2, while java is compiled with gcc 2.95. If I fix the line in the phoenix script to not send all output to /dev/null, I see that I get an error loading the java plugin... a quick google search revealed the cause of it. What it boils down to is: 1) Use a version of phoenix compiled with 2.95 2) Wait until a version of java compatible with a gcc 3.2 mozilla/phoenix is available. (I'd suggest doing #1... I believe that the binaries on mozilla.org are compiled with 2.95) -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skepticism: the mark and even the pose of the educated mind. - John Dewey -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to redo mp3's
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a bunch of mp3 type cd's that I am trying to add to my system. However, I would like to re-encode the mp3's to a lower bitrate since they are just a bunch of speeces. Can anyone recommend a good utility to do this? I would prefer on what I can run from a command line script. lame will do that. lame --mp3input -b bitrate infile outfile keep in mind that you're going from lossy-lossy, so you'll lose a bit in the re-encoding, as well as the lowering of the bitrate. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] When two people are under the influence of the most violent, most insane, most delusive, and most transient of passions, they are required to swear that they will remain in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting condition continuously until death do them part. -George Bernard Shaw. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Latest MPlayer
Thus spake Arthur H. Johnson II: Come up with your own system, of course, but guarenteed you will be happier compiling it from source. This is DEFINATELY one piece of software you want optomized to your processor. That's why Marillat's packages have different packages for different optimization levels. mplayer-i386, mplayer-i686, etc. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those who like this sort of thing, this is the sort of thing they like. Abraham Lincoln -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Latest MPlayer
Thus spake Trey Sizemore: What do I add to my sources list to get the latest MPlayer? Thanks, Trey deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main deb-src http://perso.wanadoo.fr/debian/ unstable main -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life is not lost by dying; life is lost minute by minute, day by dragging day, in all the thousand small uncaring ways. - Stephen Vincent Benet -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jargon File - where is tuxedo.org?
Thus spake Keith O'Connell: Hi, I wanted to get a reference from the jargon file so I went to www.tuxedo.org, but was instead taken to the Free Software Foundation! Strange I thought, so I tried again with www.tuxedo.org/~esh this time I was taken to Linux International Finally I tried www.tuxedo.org/~esh/html and got take to the Ethics Research Centre! I have tried this on a couple of machines with the same result. What has happened to Eric Raymonds site? At first I thought maybe it was creatively redirecting on 404 (~esh instead of ~esr? :-) but it appears that ESR has moved to http://catb.org/~esr/ Appropriately, the Jargon file is now at http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/ Cheers, -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some things are better than sex, and some are worse, but there's nothing exactly like it. - W. C. Fields -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loging to Debian Linux via SSH
Thus spake Colin Watson: On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 03:20:26PM +0100, alef-forum wrote: I have a server runnig on Debian Linux. When I'm trying to login via SSH it takes a lot of time. What architecture? Also, does your client IP address take a long time to reverse-resolve? Or more likely, does it take a long time to fail the reverse-resolve? I've seen ssh pause significantly when my client machine's IP address takes a long time to fail a reverse-resolve. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whatever you cannot understand, you cannot possess. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best WWW browser..
Thus spake Tom: Phoenix indeed is a possibility. But did you (meaning the OP) mention the need of a light weight browser? If not, what's wrong with good old Mozilla itself? Phoenix trims out a lot of extra cruft from Mozilla, and in my experience is a lot snappier and faster to load. Also, someone mentioned downloading the Phoenix binaries from their project page... but if you like, you can add this to your sources.list and just apt-get install phoenix deb http://people.debian.org/~eric/debian/i386 ./ I've been using these packages for some time, and they've been working great. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] All mankind loves a lover. - Ralph Waldo Emerson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how the fuck do I unsubscribe
Thus spake Fer'had Erdogan: I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list for a few days now. Ended up sending an email to the list manager as well about it. Why am I still subscribed? Way too many emails for me to deal with. Driving me crazy. Boy these headers sure don't have anything to do with it. List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are not *murderers*! Sir? Uh, actually, we are. -Crassus/Mike (as some guy in a hardhat). #516 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My cup runneth over!
Thus spake David Turetsky: You sure there ain't some way to prevent a slew of xterm windows from opening up each time I reboot into gdm? Earlier today, if there was one, there was 60.70.80 Seems like each time I reboot, the number doubles!!! 1) are you properly exiting from X when you go to reboot? 2) sounds like you're not closing your xterms when you exit, and have the option to save session at exit turned on. try closing all the xterms, and all other windows, and then cleanly exiting. if they don't appear again when you log back in from gdm, then track down that option and turn it off. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are a nation of many nationalities, many races, many religions-bound together by a single unity, the unity of freedom and equality. Whoever seeks to set one nationality against another, seeks to degrade all nationalities. - Franklin Delano Roosevelt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gvim / vim -g WON'T WORK
Thus spake Joris Huizer: Hello everybody, When I try to run gvim I get this error: E25: GUI cannot be used: Not enabled at compile time What does it mean ? How can it be solved ? I'm not somebody who thinks every prog should be graphical but it's easier to have more than one file open so I can view them at the same time Do you have the vim-gtk package installed? If not, you won't be able to run gvim. -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the purpose that makes strong the vow; But vows to every purpose must not hold. - William Shakespeare -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gaim problems
Thus spake Joris: yahoo changed it's protocol recently. the issue is fixed in gaim v0.59.8, but at this time that version hasn't made it into unstable yet I hope it does quickly, otherwise you could try building a package of your own (downing the source from http://gaim.sf.net/ and running debian/rules) greetz, Actually, while the yahoo fix missed making it into 0.59.7, the gaim maintainer pulled the fix from CVS and included it in the 0.59.7 Debian package for unstable (according to the changelogs and bug reports) -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] I bet if these guys filmed _Citizen Kane_ it would have had a twenty-minute sled sequence in it! -Tom Servo. #209 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Chat servers
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED]: if liz has soggy trousers did she pee herself? Dean McEwan, If the drugs don't work, [sarcasm] take more...[/sarcasm]. Amazing, I'd told procmail to send all his linux-kernel garbage to /dev/null, but who'd have thought I'd have to do the same for debian-user? -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists. - Edmond Rostand -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Large files support and libc
Thus spake Dmitry Krasnov: pharaoh# dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=1024 count=450 File size limit exceeded Anyway 2G size limit still exists. What's wrong? Am I missing something? Any suggestions? My first reaction is to wonder of PAM limits are getting in the way... Have you made any changes to /etc/security/limits.conf with regards to fsize? Also, what does ulimit -f say? -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] We join ourselves to no party that does not carry the American flag, and keep step to the music of the Union. - Rufus Choate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cu
Thus spake Rus Foster: Stoopid question. Which package is cu in as I can't find it for the life of me uucp apt-file helps out nicely in these situations, I find. apt-file search usr/bin/cu -- Nathan Poznick [EMAIL PROTECTED] They just put a bunch of movies in a blender and pressed the 'mix' button! -Crow. #515 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Yahoo messenger
Thus spake Bill Wohler: What tool do Debian folks use that interoperates with Yahoo! IM? I've used the Yahoo plugin for gaim, with success. It's included with the gaim distribution. Simply go to the plugins page, load the libyahoo.so plugin, and then you'll be able to add accounts which use the yahoo protocol. -- Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://drunkmonkey.org/pgpkey.txt He's surrounded by adoring housewives! -**. #506
Re: AVI/MPG player
Thus spake csj: On Thursday 29 November 2001 20:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for an X11 Mpeg-1/2 and AVI video player, or one player for each. Does anyone know where I can get this? For a free solution, you can't go wrong with xine. There's even a debian package for unstable/sid (apt-get install xine). Or you can actually, for the most recent version, you should install 'xine-ui'. the 'xine' package is a quite outdated version. it was split into the xine-ui and libxine0 packages. -- Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://drunkmonkey.org/pgpkey.txt I'm in it for the kicks! -Gypsy. #207
Re: dri after upgrade to Xfree 4.1.0 doesn't work
Thus spake Peter De Wachter: (EE) MGA(0): [dri] MGADRIScreenInit failed because of a version mismatch. [dri] mga.o kernel module version is 2.0.1 but version 3.0.x is needed. [dri] Disabling DRI. Seems I've got the wrong mga.o. But why? I had the same problem. Compiling agpart and mga DRI into the kernel (version 2.4.9) magically fixed the problem. If anyone can explain this, please do so ;) Hello, The DRI interface changed between XFree86 4.0.x to 4.1.x. The 2.4.8 kernel was the first kernel to have the new DRM modules included in it. You can either use a kernel = 2.4.8, or use a kernel = 2.4.7, along with the versions of the modules from I believe http://www.xfree86.org/~alanh/ -- Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://drunkmonkey.org/pgpkey.txt Everyone, in some small sacred sanctuary of the self, is nuts. -- Leo Calvin Rosten
