Re: Can't get DPMS to work with woody/sid
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Rick Macdonald wrote: Ever since I upgraded to woody many many months ago (on two different machines) DPMS no longer powers off my monitors. I just can't figure it out. xscreensaver blanks the screen but it never goes into power-saving modes. I'm actually running woody/sid. Can anybody claim that this works with XFree 4.x? Some more info: When I turn on xscreensaver debug, it puts this message on the screen when it blanks the screen: xscreensaver: X says monitor is powered down; not launching a hack It seems like X thinks the monitor is powered down, but it isn't. ...RickM...
Re: Sound newbie ... what is OSS, ALSA, etc all about?
Brian - I suspect that the OSS support for my SB Live isn't very complete. Any idea if there is OSS vs ALSA comparative information anywhere about support for particular cards? ...RickM...
Can't get DPMS to work with woody/sid
Ever since I upgraded to woody many many months ago (on two different machines) DPMS no longer powers off my monitors. I just can't figure it out. xscreensaver blanks the screen but it never goes into power-saving modes. I'm actually running woody/sid. Can anybody claim that this works with XFree 4.x? ...RickM...
Re: VMWare
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hi all, I would like to know if anyone in this list is using VMWare Workstation in order to run flavours of Windows with Debian GNU Linux as the host machine. It works great for me. Woody/sid on a dual P450 with 768MB ram. I run NT under VMWare. I even run VNC on it and access my office VMWare from home over 4Mb ADSL. Beware, however, that the support sucks. Sucks bigtime. You get no support until you buy the product so if you cannot get the demo up and running you'll be in a tough spot. This is backwards to most other companies that I've delt with, who bend over backwards _until_ you buy the product! ;-) It's as if the company has only 3 employees. ...RickM...
Re: VMWare
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, dman wrote: I still have to buy a real copy of windows, right? Yes. How are the VMWare folks with support? (quality, availability, cost) See the other post I just sent. Support is not good, but once you have it running smoothly you don't need support. :-) ...RickM...
URGENT: sid update - now can't start X
I've been running sid for some time now, but only update occasionally. I updated my laptop last week without problems and today did my desktop. Now I can't start gnome, or even run startx. The last few lines that I get are: Error loading keymap /var/tmp/server-0.xkm Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap Could not init font path element ...speedo... removing from list! Waiting for X server to shut down The speedo problem has been there for months so isn't related. I didn't think I was using XKB extensions of any kind. The upgrade made no changes to my XF86Config-4 file. I'm using an older nvidia driver (#799 or so). Any ideas? ...RickM...
Re: URGENT: sid update - now can't start X
On 18 Dec 2001, Shri Shrikumar wrote: Hi, you might have to download and install nvidia_glx and nvidia_kernel packages if you haven't done so already and change your driver from nv to nvidia - I was stuck at that for a day or so. The reason that I updated my sid to the current sid in the first place was to prepare for newer nvidia drivers. I usually like to do one thing at a time though. Not that upgrading 394 packages in one go with apt-get is one thing, but it's never failed me before. Anyway, I couldn't seem to build the latest nvidia debs for my 2.2.17 kernel with 2.7.2 gcc, so I upgraded to 2.2.19, overrode the compiler to 2.95.x, built and installed 2.2.19 and rebooted and built the new nvidia drivers and rebooted andeverything is OK again. Well, except I have to find that annoying nolisten-tcp business that stops me from sending X displays back to this machine... ...RickM...
Re: power management monitor
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, Brian Clark wrote: Can anyone tell me why my monitor insists on going into standby mode when left alone for a period of time? I've turned off all power management stuff in the BIOS and apm appears to be disabled: % dmesg | egrep apm apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x0b (Driver version 1.13) apm: disabled on user request. I've tried poking around in the usual places and I can't seem to find anything. Try this to see if X is doing it: timshel:~$ xset -q ... DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 60Suspend: 120Off: 180 DPMS is Enabled Monitor is On ... ...RickM...
Re: 2 GB limit with ext2
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Emil Pedersen wrote: I just struggled my way to through to get LFS (large file support) in a potato system installed about six months ago. What I had to do was to compile new kernel (2.4.9 + aacraid patch) since I upgraded from (a perfectly stable) 2.2.19, you shouldn't have to do this if you're already using 2.4.x. Installed this just to find out that I still could not create large files, the struggle began. In the end it turned out to be really simple; You can not use 'libc6' from stable (potato), but have to go with testing/unstable. (I got the impression that one could also recompile libc against the 2.4 headers, but I just downloaded 'libc6' and 'libc6-dev' from testing.) They will likely conflict with some installed packages you may have (I had to adjust locale, libstdc++ and a few -dev packages), but should be solvable by installing/removing/reinstalling the troublesome packages manually. Just take it easy and don't make any drastic changes. Once libc6 and depending packages were setup properly, I used dd to create a file of 3.5G just to try. Worked liked a charm. Hopefully I don't have to reboot for at least another 150-days period... Just to be sure that I understand, besides having the libc6 and other packages from testing/unstable, one _must_ also be using a 2.4.x kernel. Is that correct? Do you also have to turn on some large file option when configuring the kernel or is it the default? Any idea if you really need packages from unstable, or is testing (woody) good enough? ...RickM...
Re: Linux window in Windows
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 09:48:33PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to access my linux partition and bootstrap Linux on top of Windows? Such as, pop up a Linux window in Windows 98 that boots my kernel from my Linux partition, without rebooting? VMWare would be the only way I know of doing this. http://www.vmware.com VMWare doesn't run on Win98 hosts, only NT/2000/XP (and Linux). You could run the Linux version of VMWare and boot Win98 in a window. This is fine for things like office-type apps and network programs. More specifically, you can't run games well in a guest Windows session running under VMWare because of video, sound and joystick issues. Also, it costs US$300 and their support is a joke. I run VMWare on Linux in the office with NT in a virtual machine (in a window), and it's a lifesaver for me, but at home I'd buy a second computer to run games and audio/video software. There is a VMWare Express for Linux that is cheaper, but somewhat restricted. ...RickM...
Re: WOODY update: remote clients can't open X display
OK, when I posted this I had tried to check the mailing list archives but couldn't access the page. It's back now and I found posts about this. Running the gdmconfig program installed the changes that I made to remove the -nolisten option and now it's working again. Beats me where the actual startup files are... On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Rick Macdonald wrote: I updated three woody/sid machines to the current woody today. It had been one to three months since I last updated to woody. Everything went flawlessly (almost 500 packages on one box). But then I later discovered that I can't send X displays back to any of the machines, even if I run xhost +. I'm running gnome/sawfish. The only suspicious thing I've found (just a guess) is the -nolisten tcp option on the X command line shown below. All attempts to remove this via /etc/gdm/gdm.conf fail: the command line doesn't change. root 1378 0.7 2.3 70156 12252 ? S 14:12 3:42 /usr/bin/X11/X :0 -deferglyphs 16 -nolisten tcp vt7 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth What changed, and how do I fix this? ...RickM... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...RickM...
Re: Looking for a ProComm replacement
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, John Purser wrote: Hello, Hope this isn't too far off track. I'm looking for a good ProComm replacement. Necessary features would include: Wyse50 terminal emulation Decent scripting language including opening, reading, writing files Script Writer/Recorder to record a session I've looked at minicom and what little documentation I can find doesn't mention Wyse50 and I can't find any documentation for it's scripting language. This program could run on either Linux or Windows. I'm doing a favor for a friend and used to use ProComm to enter massive amounts of data into a Point of Sale system but my version of ProComm is Windows 95 only believe it or not. Don't want to spend money unless I have to but if I do have to I want to know what other people are using out there. Thanks and apologies again for being off track for this list. PowerTerm might do all this (Windows only): http://www.unipress.com/pt/ ...RickM...
Re: ftp behind firewall
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote: There should be a module named ip_masq_ftp. Ah, thanks, this is ecatly what I needed too! I ran insmod ip_masq_ftp as root from the command line and now ftp works from my masqueraded lan. But, what is the proper way to make this permanent so it's loaded at boot? I'm running a woody system with 2.2.19. Do I just add the following line to /etc/modules? ip_masq_ftp ...RickM...
Re: xfree DGA module and vmware
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Alejandro Diego Garin wrote: Hi all! Someone know anything about a DGA extension needed for vmware to use fullscreen mode? I am using XFree4 now and this problem didn't happen with XFree3. I looked the xfree log, # cat XFree86.0.log | grep DGA (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA It seem to be loaded i donk now The issue is purely with the XFree drivers. Some of the XFree4 drivers don't have the acceleration that XFree3 did. In fact XF4 doesn't even support my old ATI GPT (Mach64) in hi-res modes so I drove downtown and bought a GeForce2. Just an hour ago I found a version of the ATI driver that does support accelerated DGA and now I get full screen acceleration on my laptop. http://www.linuxvideo.org/gatos/ My NVidia cards have the same issue. I haven't tried the latest NV drivers to know if they have proper DGA support yet or not. ...RickM...
WOODY update: remote clients can't open X display
I updated three woody/sid machines to the current woody today. It had been one to three months since I last updated to woody. Everything went flawlessly (almost 500 packages on one box). But then I later discovered that I can't send X displays back to any of the machines, even if I run xhost +. I'm running gnome/sawfish. The only suspicious thing I've found (just a guess) is the -nolisten tcp option on the X command line shown below. All attempts to remove this via /etc/gdm/gdm.conf fail: the command line doesn't change. root 1378 0.7 2.3 70156 12252 ? S 14:12 3:42 /usr/bin/X11/X :0 -deferglyphs 16 -nolisten tcp vt7 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth What changed, and how do I fix this? ...RickM...
Re: How to stop the 'beeps'
On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Morbo wrote: My motherboard has a built in speaker, which can be very annoying, especially while I'm using my computers while others are sleeping. Is it possible to stop the terminal windows from beeping every time I press tab where there are multiple matches etc.? Other beeps such as email arriving was waking my wife up at night, so I set the beep parameters in the gnome preferences somewhere. Below they show up in xset. You may find that a quiet beep is preferable to turning it off altogether. timshel:~$ xset -q Keyboard Control: auto repeat: onkey click percent: 0LED mask: auto repeat delay: 660repeat rate: 25 auto repeating keys: 00ffdbbf fa9fffdfe5ff bell percent: 50bell pitch: 62bell duration: 51 Many thanks in advance! regards, Balazs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...RickM...
Re: Software DVD players
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but what's the attraction of watching DVD movies on a computer? It seems I'm better off in my comfy recliner chair or on the couch watching my 29 inch Panasonic GAOO then sitting at my desk in the den. ...RickM...
Re: X11 crashes
On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Loki wrote: I'm using Debian kernel 2.2.18 and X11R6 as well as FVWM 2.something - and X windows hangs quite often, sometimes 2 or 3 times per day (ok, mostly not at all, but sometimes a few times in a row). The mouse cursor freezes, Ctrl-Alt-Del and Ctrl-Alt-BkSp do nothing. Question: Is this the fault of X, the kernel, FVWM, my PS2 mouse, Netscape 4.76, or what? For me it was caused by sound events being turned on in gnome and sawfish. Bad sound card config or driver problems caused the WM to hang when closing windows. All is well after I turned off the sound events. ...RickM...
Re: uptime
On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: $ uptime 12:44am up 365 days, 1:31, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.03, 0.01 break out the root beer! Congrats! I think I'll show this to a few Windows users. In the mid-80's we ran IBM 3090 mainframes. Big Iron. One day the machine crashed Big Time. It turned out that the uptime counter overflowed after 90 days. We were the first ever to run (probably MVS/XA at the time) for 90 days without an IPL (re-boot). ...RickM...
Re: Woody hangs sometimes! Why?
Search the archive for a thread Gnome freezes. A couple of us had problems of sawfish hanging due to sound effects being turned on for window open/close events. I turned off gnome sounds _and_ sawfish sounds and now I'm OK. My i810 sound in the laptop either isn't configured properly or the sound driver has problems. On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Timeboy wrote: Dear Woody users! Do you had seen this too? Sometimes there cames a green line from the left till the right side on top of the screen while working with Gnome and the system hangs absolute. Then a reboot is needed. This system crash not happens by using a determined application. At first time it happens while starting xmms. Today by sending a mail with balsa. And yesterday by opening a gnome-terminal. So i can say, whenever any new process is starting, the system could begin to crash. I looked into some log files but couldn't find anything. Is this a bug cause woody isn't stable yet? Which log files could have informations about this system crash? Timo -- Wer K?se mag, der futtert auch F?sse! :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...RickM...
Re: Web banner blocker
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Sam Varghese wrote: junkbuster is probably the program you need. i've been using junkbuster for some time now and it is extremely effective. you can apt-get it, get a good acl file and edit your config file. there is a good link from the junkbuster site to some ACLs - the site is junkbuster.com, btw. Hmmm, the junkbuster page recommends guidescope. Has anybody tried both? Guidescope seems like it might be slower because it constantly checks a central database. ...RickM...
Re: Gnome Freeze (me too!)
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, dman wrote: | I don't know. Do you have all DMA channels, io addressed, irqs, etc, | configured right? | | There isn't anything to configure. Well, you can change a clocking | parameter (for special cases), but that's all. I had configured my card when I still had RH installed using sndconfig (or some similar abbreviation). In my modules.conf I had several options for the module including IO base address, IRQ (I think), and DMA channel to use. My problem was that I had picked the wrong DMA channel the first time I configured it so it didn't work right. /proc/pci shows IRQ 10 in three places. Could this be a problem? I don't see any way to change any of these IRQs. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/pci PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 1: Multimedia audio controller: Intel Unknown device (rev 0). Vendor id=8086. Device id=7195. Fast devsel. IRQ 10. Master Capable. No bursts. I/O at 0xe000 [0xe001]. I/O at 0xef00 [0xef01]. Bus 0, device 3, function 1: CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments Unknown device (rev 1). Vendor id=104c. Device id=ac1c. Medium devsel. IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=168. Min Gnt=192.Max Lat=4. Bus 0, device 5, function 0: VGA compatible controller: ATI Unknown device (rev 100). Vendor id=1002. Device id=4c52. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=8. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfd00 [0xfd00]. I/O at 0xe800 [0xe801]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfebff000 [0xfebff000]. ...RickM...
Re: Gnome Freeze (me too!)
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, dman wrote: | What happens if you play an mp3 with xmms? OK, I've tried playing 3 mp3 files. They mostly race through one minute's worth in a few seconds with just noisy static sounds. One of them, if I keep trying, will race part way through and then slow down and play properly. It kinda sounds like some sort of conflict (and considering the original problem that it hung gnome/sawfish when window sound events were turned on). As far as I can tell there isn't any config option anywhere for DMA. Here's some info in case anybody can spot a problem. The sound card is using IRQ10. One suspicious thing I notice below in the dmesg is 00:03.1 - irq 10 but I don't know what it refers to. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/modules xirc2ps_cs 13920 1 vmnet 16224 2 vmmon 17792 1 ds 6384 2 [xirc2ps_cs] i82365 22384 2 pcmcia_core44320 0 [xirc2ps_cs ds i82365] i810_audio 10144 1 ac97_codec 7200 0 [i810_audio] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/dma 2: floppy 4: cascade [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 21917603 XT-PIC timer 1: 2924 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 3:4169128 XT-PIC xirc2ps_cs 5: 2 XT-PIC i82365 6: 28 XT-PIC floppy 8: 1772 XT-PIC rtc 10: 64719 XT-PIC Intel 440MX, i82365 12: 67810 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 13: 1 XT-PIC fpu 14: 128399 XT-PIC ide0 NMI: 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/ioports -001f : dma1 0020-003f : pic1 0040-005f : timer 0060-006f : keyboard 0070-007f : rtc 0080-008f : dma page reg 00a0-00bf : pic2 00c0-00df : dma2 00f0-00ff : fpu 01f0-01f7 : ide0 02e8-02ef : serial(auto) 02f8-02ff : serial(set) 0300-030f : xirc2ps_cs 03c0-03df : vga+ 03f0-03f5 : floppy 03f6-03f6 : ide0 03f7-03f7 : floppy DIR 03f8-03ff : serial(set) e000-e0ff : Intel 440MX ef00-ef3f : Intel 440MX ffa0-ffa7 : ide0 ffa8-ffaf : ide1 From dmesg: Intel 810 + AC97 Audio, version 0.17, 22:00:48 Sep 2 2001 PCI: Increasing latency timer of device 00:01 to 64 i810: Intel 440MX found at IO 0xef00 and 0xe000, IRQ 10 ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, vendor id1: 0x8384, id2: 0x7644 (Unknown) i810_audio: Found 1 audio device(s). Linux PCMCIA Card Services 3.1.22 kernel build: 2.2.19 unknown options: [pci] [cardbus] PCI routing table version 1.0 at 0xf6030 00:03.0 - irq 5 00:03.1 - irq 10 Intel PCIC probe: TI 1225 rev 01 PCI-to-CardBus at slot 00:03, mem 0x6800 host opts [0]: [pci + serial irq] [pci irq 5] [lat 168/176] [bus 32/34] host opts [1]: [pci + serial irq] [pci irq 10] [lat 168/176] [bus 35/37] ISA irqs (scanned) = 3,4,7,11,15 PCI status changes cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: excluding 0xcf8-0xcff cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean. cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x378-0x37f 0x400-0x44f 0x4d0-0x4d7 cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean. cs: memory probe 0xa000-0xa0ff: clean. ...RickM...
Re: Gnome Freeze (me too!)
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, dman wrote: | If I try to play the same file with xanim, the sound is all choppy and | fast (sounds like The Chipmunks). I know nothing about xanim. What happens if you play an mp3 with xmms? I left the laptop at the office today. Just now from home I logged on and installed xmms, but if I try to play anything I can't hear it from home. ;-) I'll try tomorrow. | Maybe the i810 support isn't very good? I don't know. Do you have all DMA channels, io addressed, irqs, etc, configured right? There isn't anything to configure. Well, you can change a clocking parameter (for special cases), but that's all. ...RickM...
Re: Gnome Freeze (me too!)
On Sun, 2 Sep 2001, dman wrote: On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 11:22:23PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: | Worse! I think I had the wrong sound card driver. I've rebuilt the kernel | sound, but now I get the dreaded Can't Open /dev/dsp device. I haven't | figured out why yet. I recommend building all the (potentially relevant) sound drivers as a modules so that you can toy with them and try different settings without going through a recompile and a reboot. If some specific kernel features aren't absolutely essential then you could use a stock kernel to figure out what you need for sound since the stock kernels come with just about everything in module form. Good idea. I still have the original potato kernel (since upgraded to woody/sid) so I tried it. After trying several other drivers I went full circle and convinced myself that I do have the right driver (i810_audio), which is the one that caused sawfish to hang when gnome window events had sound turned on. It does work somewhat: I can run play english.au and it sounds perfect but gives these messages: playing english.au sox: Sound card appears to only support singled word samples. Overriding format sox: Sound card appears to only support 2 channels. Overriding format If I try to play the same file with xanim, the sound is all choppy and fast (sounds like The Chipmunks). Maybe the i810 support isn't very good? ...RickM...
Re: Gnome Freeze (me too!)
On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, dman wrote: On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 11:24:08AM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: | Jon Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked about sound. That makes a bit | of sense in my case, because sound doesn't work too well on the laptop | (choppy) and I probably had sound turned on for close window events. I | guess I'll look at that. You probably have the wrong DMA channel selected. This was the problem I had with my previous desktop system (that actually had a sound card). Worse! I think I had the wrong sound card driver. I've rebuilt the kernel sound, but now I get the dreaded Can't Open /dev/dsp device. I haven't figured out why yet. ...RickM...
Re: Gnome Freeze (me too!)
On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Keith O'Connell wrote: ...when I load the Gnome desktop into play the machine will freeze at the first gnome action I try (selecting an icon of the desktop or similar). Locks up tight. I have to Ctrl-Alt-Bkspace to get out. If I try to log back in a xdm it won't progress beyond accepting the password. To get into X again once Gnome has aborted I have to reboot! I am currently writing this message in Netscape under Ice with the machine, so I fear Gnome as the culprit as everything else is fine. Why I have the exact hang problem. I'm running woody/sid on three machines. It only happens on an NEC laptop. All three machines run Gnome with sawfish. The two desktops have NVidia video. The laptop has an ATI of some sort. When the harddrive was in a different laptop, it was OK. The probelm started when I moved the harddrive to this newer NEC. Many things changed at the same time, however. Video, soundcard, and a refresh of woody and or sid to get newer versions. X on the laptop would hang randomly when a window was closing. Happened with windows from many different apps. If I did Ctrl-Alt-Bkspace right away I could usually kill X but not log back in via gdm as you describe. If I telnet in to the laptop and kill and restart sawfish, well, that didn't fix everything and I had to quit and reboot anyway. If I pressed keys or clicked too many times with the mouse, then Ctrl-Alt-Bkspace wouldn't work and I'd have to hit the power switch. I couldn't figure out if it was X, the window manager or the XServer. I switched ice-gnome, still using gdm and gnome as usual, and it hasn't hung up since. That doesn't necessarily prove that it is sawfish's fault. Jon Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked about sound. That makes a bit of sense in my case, because sound doesn't work too well on the laptop (choppy) and I probably had sound turned on for close window events. I guess I'll look at that. ...RickM...
Re: Gnome Freeze
On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Keith O'Connell wrote: Jon, This will sound weird... Do you have a sound card installed and the sound server options selected? If you do not have a sound card you may find that something is indefinately waiting to open a non-existant sound device to play audio - certainly I've had this with nautilus on various GNOME desktops so I'm just guessing that it could also have this effect. Please let me know whether you have audio? Strangely enough this does not sound weird. The new board I have has a sound chip which is supposed to be compatible with a ES1371, so I selected this module at install time. When I tried to play a CD under Ice, or WMaker, there was no sound. Fix the sound was one of the things I have on my fix-later list. Are you saying that the sound freeze is the cause of the Gnome desktop freeze? I am so new as to not be able to disable a sound module or re enable another one. I am hopeful of a fix that does not require *another* full installation As I mentioned in my me too post, I have just now disabled the sound server startup and sound for events in the gnome Multimedia/Sound config. I also turned off the play sound effects in the SawfishWindowManager/Sound options. It's only been a few minutes but so far it hasn't hung! Sound apps still work. For example, xanim, but the sound is still choppy as it has been since I first configured this laptop. Perhaps once I fix the sound driver or whatever is wrong such that sound works properly, then maybe sound events won't hang sawfish (if indeed this is my problem). Try disabling WM sound events as I describe above (for gnome itself and your WM) and see what happens. It sounds like you are able to make it hang at will. Mine is randomn and can take quite a bit of action before hanging. ...RickM...
Re: kernel 2.4.x (what compiler?)
Something that seems odd: Documentation/Changes says to use gcc-2.91.66 but this old version isn't available as a Debian package! Quote: Kernel compilation == GCC --- The gcc version requirements may vary depending on the type of CPU in your computer. The next paragraph applies to users of x86 CPUs, but not necessarily to users of other CPUs. Users of other CPUs should obtain information about their gcc version requirements from another source. The recommended compiler for the kernel is egcs 1.1.2 (gcc 2.91.66), and it should be used when you need absolute stability. You may use gcc 2.95.x instead if you wish, although it may cause problems. Later versions of gcc have not received much testing for Linux kernel compilation, and there are almost certainly bugs (mainly, but not exclusively, in the kernel) that will need to be fixed in order to use these compilers. In any case, using pgcc instead of egcs or plain gcc is just asking for trouble. Note that gcc 2.7.2.3 is no longer a supported kernel compiler. The kernel no longer works around bugs in gcc 2.7.2.3 and, in fact, will refuse to be compiled with it. In addition, please pay attention to compiler optimization. Anything greater than -O2 may not be wise. Similarly, if you choose to use gcc-2.95.x or derivatives, be sure not to use -fstrict-aliasing (which, depending on your version of gcc 2.95.x, may necessitate using -fno-strict-aliasing). ...RickM...
OT: AMD chips cause kernel errors and hangs?
We have a Linux cluster of 1000 nodes. I wasn't involved in setting it up. They use RedHat 6.2 kernel 2.2.19. Dual AMD 1.2GHz, 2GB memory, 2GB swap, GB ethernet. Several nodes hang and/or get kernel errors every day. The first causes that come to mind are bad RAM and running out of virtual memory. I've pasted some logs below. The slaves mostly run FORTRAN code compiled with Lahey F95 v6.0 and g77 (0.5.24-19981002). What else could cause these errors? Are there special kernel config issues for AMD chips? I've run Linux for 9 years, always used Intel CPUs, used Debian since before the first official release (buzz), but never heard of so many problems. ch_binary_handler+67/168] [do_execve+417/516] [sys_execve+75/124] [system_call+52/56] Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: Code: f6 46 24 01 74 52 8b 4c 24 68 39 4e 14 75 49 8b 4c 24 64 31 Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs inetd[458]: pid 11124: exit signal 11 Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00ff0024 Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: current-tss.cr3 = 1463e000, %cr3 = 1463e000 Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: *pde = Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: Oops: Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: CPU:0 Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: EIP: 0010:[locks_remove_posix+44/152] Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: EFLAGS: 00010206 Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: eax: 94629b04 ebx: be6b35a0 ecx: 94629a94 edx: 947f6920 Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: esi: 00ff edi: 942157c0 ebp: 94629b04 esp: 93a9bc28 Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: Process in.ftpd (pid: 11125, process nr: 30, stackpage=93a9b000) Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: Stack: 942157c0 bcc13f60 94629b04 94629a94 8012699a 94785f00 93a9a000 94785f00 Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel:fff7 0202 93f45aa0 00013000 93f45a40 2aabf000 93f45adc 80135619 Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel:80135626 93f45a40 08085fc0 0806b800 bcc13f60 80126991 be6b35a0 Aug 21 06:35:07 hou000752cs kernel: Call Trace: [filp_close+82/92] [load_elf_interp+677/708] [load_elf_interp+690/708] [filp Aug 21 04:02:00 hou000721cs anacron[5515]: Updated timestamp for job `cron.daily' to 2001-08-21 Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 11008010 Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: current-tss.cr3 = 145aa000, %cr3 = 145aa000 Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: *pde = Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: Oops: Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: CPU:0 Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: EIP:0010:[d_lookup+100/224] Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: EFLAGS: 00010217 Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: eax: beee9a88 ebx: 11007ff8 ecx: 0022 edx: bee0 Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: esi: 322f6ef6 edi: ac72f00a ebp: 11008010 esp: 8542bf3c Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: Process slocate (pid: 5612, process nr: 18, stackpage=8542b000) Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: Stack: ac72f00a beee9a88 ac72f000 322f6ef6 000a 8012df0c aa7363e0 Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel:8542bf84 8542bf84 8012e187 aa7363e0 8542bf84 ac72f000 ac72f000 Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel:8542a000 7c38 ac72f000 000a 322f6ef6 8012e284 ac72f000 aa7363e0 Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: Call Trace: [cached_lookup+16/84] [lookup_dentry+275/488] [__namei+40/88] [sys_newlstat+42/140] [system_call+52/56] Aug 21 04:02:01 hou000721cs kernel: Code: 8b 6d 00 8b 74 24 18 39 73 48 75 5c 8b 74 24 24 39 73 0c 75 Aug 19 12:10:00 hou000669cs kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address d2040200 Aug 19 12:10:00 hou000669cs kernel: current-tss.cr3 = 11c09000, %cr3 = 11c09000 Aug 19 12:10:00 hou000669cs kernel: *pde = Aug 19 12:10:00 hou000669cs kernel: Oops: Aug 19 12:10:00 hou000669cs kernel: CPU:0 Aug 19 12:10:00 hou000669cs kernel: EIP:0010:[flush_old_exec+196/552] Aug 19 12:10:00 hou000669cs kernel: EFLAGS: 00010246 Aug 19 12:10:00 hou000669cs kernel: eax: ebx: 9b04 ecx: 9b041e5c edx: 11c09000 Aug 19 12:10:00 hou000669cs kernel: esi: edi: 801e59c3 ebp: 9a5c4000 esp: 9b041ca0 Aug 19 12:10:00 hou000669cs kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Aug 19 12:10:00 hou000669cs kernel: Process crond (pid: 15182, process nr: 24, stackpage=9b041000) Aug 19 12:10:00 hou000669cs kernel: Stack: 801e59c3 befddf80 9b04 80135d52 9b041e5c 8021e718 fff 8 Aug 19 12:10:00 hou000669cs kernel:9b04 00030003 0001 1990 003 4 Aug 19 12:10:00
Re: woody or sid
On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should I upgrade to woody or sid from potato? Please give me your opinion. I've upgraded 3 machines from potato to woody. But each time, there were packages that were only in sid (some gnome packages, for example). So I updated to sid and got everything updated and working and then backed my sources.list to just woody. I actually left in potato in case I need some old package, but I don't know if this is harmful in any way. My idea is to probably not update to sid again now that it's working. I did mine several weeks ago, and the state of sid can be broken at any given time. I may have been lucky. Perhaps now you can update to woody without having to get any packages from sid. ...RickM...
Re: shred
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Martin F. Krafft wrote: also sprach harsha (on Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:10:46AM +0530): There is this option of shreding of a file in KDE What exactly does it do? The progress bar shows making 36 passes if I delete about 150k file. it most likely overwrites the file several times with alternating patterns of 0's and 1's at the bit level, making it impossible to restore it through sophisticated recoveries using ever so tiny traces that files can leave on disk when overwritten only once. but i am not sure. Sounds like the Norton Utilities WipeInfo (WipeDisk/WipeFile). There is a Government Mode that an old version of the manual (v8) says takes two hours to wipe a 1.44 floppy. The manual says Government Wipe executes a government standard wipe using decimal character 246 as the last character. You can change some parameters but if you do so it may no longer meet government specifications. As you say, it makes several passes so the original info cannot be lifted with fancy techniques, whatever they may be (electron microscopes or something). ...RickM...
Re: C programming: Segmentation fault within malloc?
Try breaking the mallocs into separate lines to see which one fails:
int errflag = 0;
if (!(node = (struct node *)malloc(sizeof(struct node {
errflag = 1;
} else {
if (!(node-data = (struct symbol *)malloc(sizeof(struct
symbol {
errflag = 2;
}
}
if (errflag) {
fprintf(stderr, errflag=%d\n);
fprintf(stderr, sym_tab_msg[MEMORY_ALLOCATION_FAILURE]);
return FALSE;
}
If the first one sets errflag without a segfault in malloc, it would seem
that your original compound statement tried to do the second malloc. The
second malloc would certainly fail if the first malloc results in node
being a null pointer, because it would try to set node-data. You can try
to test this with:
if (!((node = (struct node *)malloc(sizeof(struct node)))
(fprintf (stderr, should not get here\n {
}
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Shaul Karl wrote:
Have you tried to look at the value sizeof(struct node)? It might be too
big.
Otherwise, can you show us the backtrace in gdb.
gdb says sizeof(struct node) == 20. It is mostly a couple of pointers:
struct node {
enum colors color;
struct node *left, *right, *parent;
void *data;
};
Breakpoint 1, insert_symbol (sym=0xbfffe25c) at symbols.c:197
197 if (!((node = (struct node *)malloc(sizeof(struct node)))
(gdb) p sizeof(struct node)
$1 = 20
(gdb) c
Continuing.
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x400af19e in malloc () from /lib/libc.so.6
(gdb) bt
#0 0x400af19e in malloc () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1 0x400ae844 in malloc () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2 0x804c60a in insert_symbol (sym=0xbfffe25c) at symbols.c:197
#3 0x8048c6f in tmp_variable (tmp=0xbfffe398, sym_data=0xbfffe2ec)
at actions.c:115
#4 0x80497be in sym_for_const (tok=0xbfffe4f8, sym=0xbfffe398)
at actions.c:412
#5 0x804d55f in yyparse () at parser.y:216
#6 0x804ddd5 in translator (params=0xbb80) at parser.y:272
#7 0x804b08f in main (argc=1, argv=0xbc98) at main.c:195
#8 0x4005b2db in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6
(gdb)
I believe that malloc is called twice here due to line 198:
if (!((node = (struct node *)malloc(sizeof(struct node)))
(node-data = malloc(sizeof(struct symbol) {
and sizeof(struct symbol) is 52.
On [Thu, 26 Jul 2001 03:15:46 +0300], Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Breakpoint 2, insert_symbol (sym=0xbfffe25c) at symbols.c:197
197 if (!((node = (struct node *)malloc(sizeof(struct node)))
(gdb) l 197
192
193 enum flag insert_symbol(struct symbol *sym)
194 {
195 struct node *node;
196
197 if (!((node = (struct node *)malloc(sizeof(struct node)))
198 (node-data = (struct symbol *)malloc(sizeof(struct
symbol) {
199 fprintf(stderr, sym_tab_msg[MEMORY_ALLOCATION_FAILURE]);
200 return FALSE;
201 }
(gdb) n
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x400af19e in malloc () from /lib/libc.so.6
(gdb)
How can it be? If malloc can not allocate memory it should return a NULL
pointer. How can it Seg fault?
[03:09:45 16]$ free
total used free sharedbuffers cached
Mem: 63584 60936 2648 31452 1344 20472
-/+ buffers/cache: 39120 24464
Swap: 116924 52580 64344
[03:09:49 16]$
Since all the memory is used and the machine is running for some time
now,
doesn't that precludes hardware problems?
Obviously I am missing something.
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Re: Kernel 2.4.6 won't boot
On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Bostjan Muller wrote: Hi! I have just found out that kernel 2.4.6 won't boot on my pentium 200 MMX machine. The same has allready happened with kernel 2.4.6-pre8, but I thought it will be fixed later when stable release comes out. The same kernel boots just ok on my toshiba p75 laptop. Has anyone had any experience like that? The boot stops after this line: FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 and than it just stands there doing nothing and does not go on... I have no idea, but on my system the next things it tries to do after the FDC message are the nextwork devices ppp and my 3 ethernet cards. Maybe this is a clue. Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.11 Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling) TCP compression code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California PPP line discipline registered. PPP BSD Compression module registered PPP Deflate Compression module registered 3c59x.c 18Feb01 Donald Becker and others http://www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html eth0: 3Com 3c590 Vortex 10Mbps at 0xd000, 00:a0:24:de:b8:27, IRQ 9 8K byte-wide RAM 1:1 Rx:Tx split, autoselect/10baseT interface. eth0: Overriding PCI latency timer (CFLT) setting of 0, new value is 248. eth1: 3Com 3c905C Tornado at 0xb800, 00:50:da:11:64:67, IRQ 7 ...RickM...
Re: Soundblaster live digital output
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Ed Falis wrote: I have a Soundblaster live value and a speaker system capable of accepting digital input. Anyone know whether it's possible and how to enable the Soundblaster digital output under Debian? I have the same card. I'm under the impression that the Value part of the name SoundBlaster Live - Value means in part that they removed the digital output, but the web pages are not clear. Compare for yourself and _please_ prove me wrong! http://www.soundblaster.com/products/sblive/features.asp http://www.soundblaster.com/products/sblivevalue/features.asp ...RickM...
Re: apt-get upgrade problem
On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Hank Marquardt wrote: Maybe this is self evident to some, but I'm stuck ... I'm running unstable, I hadn't upgraded in about a week -- then last night I did and there were 128 packages to upgrade including most of KDE. After it fetched the archives it chugged about half way though and then puked -- It indicates it needs to add an additional package 'kdelibs3' -- it fetches it just fine but then dies like so: dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.0-0beta1-2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-designer.desktop', which is also in package kdevelop dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.0-0beta1-2_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) I tried 'apt-get -f install' ... it chokes in the same place, I tried 'apt-get remove kdevelop' as I only installed it to play with it -- but remove complaines that there are unmet dependancies and suggests running apt-get -f install -- I upgraded from potato to testing and then to sid a few days ago and had the same problem but with a different filename. I just did this: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.0-0beta1-1_i386.deb followed by this to fix and continue: apt-get -f install apt-get -u dist-upgrade When done, I set sources.list back to testing. I went to sid to get all of gnome 1.4. Risky, but then I drop back to testing from now on. Everything seems OK but I run gnome, not kde. ...RickM...
Re: DPMS broken in xfree 4.x/gnome 1.4?
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, Rick Macdonald wrote: Well, it took about 2 seconds to find the answer at the gnome website. I'm just trying it now. I don't seem to have the xscreensaver daemon running by default; that's probably key... http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53860 This is not a bug, as it turns out, just a feature with difficult-to-find documentation :) Xscreensaver 3.32 comes with gnome 1.4 from Ximian. In the xscreensaver changelog for (I think) version 1.30, it explicitly states that xscreensaver takes over all DPMS control. I happened upon the easy way to fix my DPMS control by executing the Xscreensaver graphical control program: xscreensaver-command -prefs I still can't get DPMS to work. I turned on debug output in xscreensaver, and now when the screen blanks I get the message: xscreensaver: X reports monitor is shut down; not launching a hack So no I'm thinking maybe there is a problem with X after all. ...RickM...
Re: DPMS broken in xfree 4.x/gnome 1.4?
On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, G.LeeJ wrote: In gnome Control Center, under Destop/Screensaver, I have: No Screensaer but also: Start after 3 minutes Require Password (not selected) Priority (about in the middle) Use Power Management (selected) Shitdown monitor 10 minutes after screen saver has started. duplicate except I start later and shutdown later 35/45 respectively...i've not checked out bugzilla yet to try to fix/look into it. Strange that yours works and mine doesn't. I'm running xfree 4.0.3 and gnome 1.4 from sid. Not all of gnome 1.4 is in woody. ...RickM...
Re: DPMS broken in xfree 4.x/gnome 1.4?
Well, it took about 2 seconds to find the answer at the gnome website. I'm just trying it now. I don't seem to have the xscreensaver daemon running by default; that's probably key... http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53860 This is not a bug, as it turns out, just a feature with difficult-to-find documentation :) Xscreensaver 3.32 comes with gnome 1.4 from Ximian. In the xscreensaver changelog for (I think) version 1.30, it explicitly states that xscreensaver takes over all DPMS control. I happened upon the easy way to fix my DPMS control by executing the Xscreensaver graphical control program: xscreensaver-command -prefs ...RickM...
DPMS broken in xfree 4.x/gnome 1.4?
On 3 different machines, DPMS no longer turns off my monitors after upgrading to woody/sid/XFree86 4.x/gnome 1.4. The screen goes blank, but it doesn't do the suspend/off. I suppose it could be a problem with gnome 1.4 since that was installed at the same time, but even xset dpms force off only blanks the screen but still doesn't cause the monitor to go into power-saving mode. On one machine, the problem carried over after switching from an ATI to an Asus GeForce2 (nvidia) card (just using the nv driver for now). Any ideas? ...RickM...
Re: DPMS broken in xfree 4.x/gnome 1.4?
On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, G.LeeJ wrote: Rick Macdonald wrote: On 3 different machines, DPMS no longer turns off my monitors after upgrading to woody/sid/XFree86 4.x/gnome 1.4. The screen goes blank, but it doesn't do the suspend/off. mine works fine as long as I don't set a screensaver ..I understand its a bug in 1.4 ? In gnome Control Center, under Destop/Screensaver, I have: No Screensaer but also: Start after 3 minutes Require Password (not selected) Priority (about in the middle) Use Power Management (selected) Shitdown monitor 10 minutes after screen saver has started. What are your settings? ...RickM...
Re: potato hangs after kernel upgrade
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, DvB wrote: I installed potato off cds and immediately upgraded to the 2.2.19 kernel image for potato. All seemed to go well except that, after rebooting with the new kernel, my computer started hanging in apparently random situations. Has anyone else had this problem? I'm running testing (woody) but just recently changed to 2.2.19. I changed several other things (including moving the HD to a different laptop with different video chipset) and now the XServer or window manager (sawfish) hangs randomly. It seems to happen when a window is closing. I can telnet in to the laptop and kill X, so the kernel isn't hung. Also, the mouse (h/w cursor) still moves but can't do anything. Keyboard is dea as well. Where/when does yours hang? ...RickM...
lilo linux/WinME dual boot doesn't anymore
I have an NEC laptop that was working as dual boot with lilo with WinME and woody. I did all of the following and now when lilo tries to boot WinME it says invalid disk or something similar. What could have broken it and how do I fix it? - did a refresh of woody to get recent updates (over 130 packages). - this included a lilo update, which ran and updated it's boot stuff. - installed kernel source and built and installed, thus switching from 2.2.17 to 2.2.19. Of cource lilo was rerun. - moved the physical harddrive from an NEC Versa Note laptop (128BM 333MHx) to an NEC VersaVx laptop (256MB 450MHz). ...RickM...
Re: gcc 3.0, namespace, and such (fwd)
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Robert Kerr wrote: Jean-Baptiste, Thanks for your response. Do you happen to know if objects compiled with 3.0 can successfully link against libraries created with 2.95.x? No, they can not. ...RickM...
gnome cal? Doesn't seem to process alarms
Is anybody using gnome calendar (gnome-pim package)? I've tried many times over the last 6 months and I've never been able to get it to do anything. The specified times pass with no notification. I'm currently using woody. ...RickM...
Re: gnome cal? Doesn't seem to process alarms
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Steve Witt wrote: On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Rick Macdonald wrote: Is anybody using gnome calendar (gnome-pim package)? I've tried many times over the last 6 months and I've never been able to get it to do anything. The specified times pass with no notification. Yeah, I'm on woody also and am using it. The alarms work for me. Are you keeping it running? As far as I can tell, the alarms don't schedule a background process or anything, if the program is running it will generate the alarm. I usually keep it minimized to keep it out of the way and still allow it to generate alarms. Sheesh, yes, that's it. I launch the program from the clock the thin panel at the top of the screen, and figured that there was a process daemon somewhere. If I have the gnomecal window open, then it works. If I have the window open or iconified and click on the clock again, I get a second gnomecal window. Not what I'd expect at all! I'll write to the author... ...RickM...
Re: nvidia_drv.o and XF864.0.2
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Anthony Lau wrote: At 8:22 AM -0300 4/19/2001, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: have you compiled the drivers you got through APT? when you do # apt-get install nvidia-kernel-src nvidia-glx-src I didn't do that, but XFree seemed to have found a Nvidia GLX module and driver module. Just maybe not the right ones. it'll only download the drivers and put them in proper location to be recompiled with your kernel source. so, once you have the packages installed, you should do: # cd /usr/sr/$KERNEL_SOURCE # make-kpkg modules_image # cd .. # dpkg -i nvidia-kernel-`uname -r`_0.9.769-1_i386.deb I previously installed a bunch of GL packages (mesag-dev mesag-widgets-dev mesag3 mesag3-widgets) and then installed the stuff from nvidia's website to replace the glx libs, all before I knew these deb packages existed. So I installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel and ran the build scripts, but then to install them I had to remove a bunch of the other mesag3 packages (and even some x packages). The result is that I have these nvidia libs but no GL header files to compile with. The mesag-dev packages (gl.h etc) seem to conflict with the nvidia-glx. What have I missed? ...RickM...
Re: nvidia_drv.o and XF864.0.2
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Anthony Lau wrote: At 12:31 AM -0600 4/21/2001, Rick Macdonald wrote: I previously installed a bunch of GL packages (mesag-dev mesag-widgets-dev mesag3 mesag3-widgets) and then installed the stuff from nvidia's website to replace the glx libs, all before I knew these deb packages existed. So I installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel and ran the build scripts, but then to install them I had to remove a bunch of the other mesag3 packages (and even some x packages). The result is that I have these nvidia libs but no GL header files to compile with. The mesag-dev packages (gl.h etc) seem to conflict with the nvidia-glx. What have I missed? Have you tried apt-get remove both the mesa libs and the nvidia drivers, then apt-get install the xlib version of the mesa libs (forgot the name, xlibmesa?) and the nvidia drivers? Yes, that's what I did. I believe I use the Xlib versions of the mesa libs. xlibmesa-dev! OK, got it fixed. I was sufferring fom a mixture of sid and woody packages clashing. Some version of these libs conflicted with xbase-clients, but I went to sid and installed xlibmesa3, xlibmesa-dev (the missing header files) and xbase-clients and now I'm ok. Thanks! ...RickM...
Re: newbie fighting with Helix Gnome
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Ross Boylan wrote: I have a similar problem, but slightly different packages: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libgnomesupport0: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is installed libgnomeui32: Depends: gnome-libs-data (= 1.2.13-4) but 1.2.11-ximian.1 is installed Could anyone explain what is going on? Would apt-get install on the two packages fix things up? When I do it as a trial run it seems to work, though I get a large number of packages it would reconfigure. I upgraded a couple potato systems to woody and then sid and got very similar errors. apt-get dist-upgrade got stuck at a point like this. I finally did apt-get install libgnomesupport0 libgnomeui32 gnome-libs-data (or maybe it was just gnome-libs-data; sorry I'm not sure) which worked, and then I went back to dist-upgrade and continued. I have two more potato systems to upgrade. I think I'll try purging helix stuff first as suggested. ...RickM...
[SOLVED] Re: How to get gnome 1.4 out of woody pool
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Rick Macdonald wrote: I see the new gnome 1.4 debs in the Pool directoroes, but this line in sources.list still only gets me the old debs. What do I need to do? deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian woody main non-free contrib I didn't realize that woody is testing, not unstable. I changed to unstable (sid) and then apt saw the new 1.4 debs. ...RickM...
Re: sources.list
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Joey Hess wrote: will trillich wrote: i'm just saying -- when smoething breaks, be not surprised, complain not, frown not. Er, no, file a bug. Partial upgrades from stable are supported by debian; dependancies shoul ensure any mix of stable and unstable packages that are installed work. If they don't, it's a bug. Ah, thanks, good to know. Only slightly related to this question... ;-) Why doesn't pointing apt to woody see the new gnome 1.4 packages in the pool directories? It still only sees the old ones in the dist/... dirs. ...RickM...
Re: sources.list and locally generated debs
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Chris Gray wrote: On Mon, 09 Apr 2001, Colin Watson wrote: Mario Vukelic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My locally generated debs, e.g. from kernel compiles, show up as obsolete in dselect. Is there an easy way to tell their locations to the package manager or do I have to mess with Packages.gz files and the like? You pretty much have to mess with Packages.gz, I'm afraid (at least, that's the easiest way I can think of). apt-ftparchive in the apt-utils package in testing/unstable may help. I used to put my local debs (kernels etc) into a directory (/usr/local/src/debian-local/dists/local/local/binary-i386) and then run this script: #!/bin/sh cd /usr/local/src/debian-local dpkg-scanpackages dists/local/local/binary-i386 /dev/null dists/local/local/binary-i386/Packages gzip dists/local/local/binary-i386/Packages Then I would add this to sources.list: deb file:/usr/local/src/debian-local local/ I was never quite sure about the proper directory paths to set up, and in fact the names above might not be consistant and correct. Perhaps somebody can comment on, fix or improve this idea? ...RickM...
Re: apt-get update foible
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, John Griffiths wrote: I went to run apt-get update (like i do at elast once a week) and got a pile of reponses like this: Get:3 ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/contrib Release Err ftp://ftp.debian.org potato/contrib Release Read error - read (9 Bad file descriptor) is there something i should be doing differently, or is this a transitory error? Just now I was trying to look at that ftp site with netscape and could not connect so I changed to ftp.us.debian.org, which is available at the moment. ...RickM...
Re: sources.list
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 09:22:52PM -0500, will trillich wrote: On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 05:17:58PM -0500, Stephen E. Hargrove wrote: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free ooh. that sets my teeth on edge. you should pick WHICH you want (potato = well-tested, solid, STABLE; woody = avant-garde, tinkerings, incoming, new, probably works) and stay with that distribution. More significantly, I suspect that the potato line above is entirely superfluous. When apt goes to install something, it grabs the most recent version available, based on version number. Testing is always at least as recent as (and usually more recent than) stable, so I suspect that the above configuration is effectively equivalent to listing only woody, except that it makes you download more package listings. Well, here's a reason: I just installed potato on a laptap, then switched to woody in sources/list and did dist-upgrade. Then I went to install emacs19 but it's not in woody. So I added the potato line and then installed emacs19. I have tons of emacs19 custom lisp that I haven't ported to emacs20 yet. ...RickM...
Re: sources.list
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, will trillich wrote: Well, here's a reason: I just installed potato on a laptap, then switched to woody in sources/list and did dist-upgrade. Then I went to install emacs19 but it's not in woody. So I added the potato line and then installed emacs19. I have tons of emacs19 custom lisp that I haven't ported to emacs20 yet. so when a package has become extinct (not present in woody, for example) you manage to get a legacy copy from potato. i'm just saying -- when smoething breaks, be not surprised, So, I guess I should remove the potato line now that I got the old package I needed? Sounds like a good idea. Thanks. ...RickM...
How to get gnome 1.4 out of woody pool
I see the new gnome 1.4 debs in the Pool directoroes, but this line in sources.list still only gets me the old debs. What do I need to do? deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian woody main non-free contrib ...RickM...
Re: Missing header files
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Stephen E. Hargrove wrote: What do I need to download and install in order to get the following: gtk.h gdk.h gdkkeysyms.h Xlib.h time.h types.h stat.h un.h uninstd.h errno.h xmmsctrl.h configfile.h [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -S unistd.h libc6-dev: /usr/include/unistd.h [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -S Xlib.h xlib6g-dev: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h I don't have the gdk files. ...RickM...
Re: use of apt-get upgrade...
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Hall Stevenson wrote: I've some doubts about apt-get behaivor... I did a normal installation of potato some months ago...from time to time I'll was install another packages that I didn't installl at first installation...so I don't know if when I do an apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade it review only the packages installed at first time or if it review the other packages that I's been installed since months ago. I'm not sure exactly what apt-get dist-upgrade does... as far as what packages is will install. I do know that apt-get upgrade only updates packages that you *currently* have installed. I've done an installation and hopefully have the packages that I need and use often enough. I've also went through and removed packages that I don't need. Now, I keep those installed ones up-to-date with the upgrade option. I'm afraid that dist-upgrade will add some packages back that someone else thinks I need... I've always used only dist-upgrade and haven't had any problems. I figure that it's meant to do a better job if the dependencies of an installed package change. ...RickM...
Re: Command to determine resolution
On 30 Nov 2000, Robert D. Hilliard wrote: Is there a command available in Debian to determine what resolution is being used in an X session? xdpyinfo xvidtune ...RickM...
Re: Getting gnome helix running on potato
On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Martin Waller wrote: I have a friend here who abandoned potato 'cos he couldn't get gnome helix running under potato. Can it be done (without resorting to woody)? How? Works fine for me. I just put this in my apt-sources: deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main ...RickM...
Re: Re(2): Boot Problem
On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Janos Kramar wrote: My error message was different (kernel panic during boot) but it was caused by the built-in Boot virus detection in my new ASUS CUSL2 motherboard. I could boot from floppy but not from the harddrive that I pulled out of my old P200 machine. I turned off the boot virus detection in the BIOS setup and then it booted fine. You might also add lba32 to the /etc/lilo.conf file (first section where boot and delay are usually found) in case your boot files are beyond cylinder 1024. See /usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz. After installing Debian without any apparent problems and rebooting the computer without the boot disk, it says: MBR L 07 07 07 07 07 07 07 07 07 ... and so forth. It works fine with the boot disk. I have an hda unused approx. 5GB hard drive, a hdb dvd-rom, and hdc cd-rom, and an hdd 30GB hard-drive with an approx. 5GB ext2 partition and swap with Debian on it. What can I do to get it working properly? Sorry, I'm new to Linux and probably asking something stupid and obvious; how would I reinstall LILO? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ...RickM...
Re: SB Live! (XGamer)...
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Ray Percival wrote: I see that potato has 2.2.17pre6, but woody is just 2.2.17 (the final, I assume). Can I just install the woody deb for kernel-source? Anybody know if it's compatable? Or if you don't want to rebuild your kernel go to opensource.creative.com. -- Original Message -- From: S.Salman Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 18:45:53 -0500 RM == Rick Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RM I keep hearing this and I keep looking and I can't find it in RM my 2.2.17 source (from potato debian package). RM RM _Please_ point me to a file! RM I just looked at the kernel config for 2.2.17, and sure enough its there. Why don't you download the kernel source from http://www.kernel.org ? Unpack the source to /usr/src and start with make xconfig. Its under the Sound configuration menu, and the relevant option is Creative SBLive! (EMU10K1). The help text for that option reads: CONFIG_SOUND_EMU10K1: Say Y or M if you have a PCI sound card using the EMU10K1 chipset, such as the Creative SBLive! or SB PCI512. -- Salman Ahmed ssahmed AT pathcom DOT com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ...RickM...
Re: soundcore module
On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, Marcelo Ramos wrote: From /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/Introduction : ### To support all the various sound modules, there are three general support modules that must be loaded first: soundcore.o: Top level handler for the sound system, provides a set of functions for registration of devices by type. soundlow.o:Low-level sound drivers which are not part of OSS/Lite (Open Sound System), including SB32/AWE synthesizer, etc. sound.o: Common sound functions required by all modules ### and cannot find any of the below modules in 'make xconfig'. The sound modules are not part of the kernel configuration options, they are compiled if you select support for sound cards. If you compiled the kernel with the sound support for your sound card you have to run I'm confused about the interaction of kernel sound support and ALSA drivers. If I want to switch to ALSA drivers, do I build the kernel with sound and soundcore, or just soundcore? I assume that I turn off the kernel support for my soundcard? ...RickM...
Re: SB Live! (XGamer)...
On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, Matthias Czapla wrote: In Kernel 2.2.17 there is direct Support for SB Live!. Just compile it in. I keep hearing this and I keep looking and I can't find it in my 2.2.17 source (from potato debian package). _Please_ point me to a file! ...RickM...
Re: New Motherboard
On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Jack Morgan wrote: I need to get a new Motherboard, I want to use my Celry 566 MHZ. Any suggestions? Has anyone got the intel 815e chip to work under with Debian? A week ago I bought an ASUS CUSL2 815e. Works fine once I turned off the Boot virus detect in the BIOS. My ATA66/7200RPM drive went from 9.0 to 23.6 MB/sec with the ATA66/100 support, according to hdparm. I didn't try to use the on-board intel video (815). Oh, I had to pop out the battery to clear the BIOS before it would recognise my PCI video card. Don't know why. ...RickM...
OT: Does 1024 cyl restriction applt to SCSI disks?
Does the 1024 cylinder restriction for boot files apply to SCSI or is it just an IDE issue? I'm just about to use SCSI with Linux for the first time (9BG). ...RickM...
Re: easy apt-get
On Sun, 8 Oct 2000, Marc Maute wrote: hi, A simple question: I have a deb file on my system how can I install it? Isnt it possible to install this pack. whitout to change etc/apt/aptlist ? And how must I do it? Just use dpkg: dpkg -i your-file.deb ...RickM...
Re: mozilla netscape
On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, John Travis wrote: On Wed, 04 Oct 2000, Michael P. Soulier wrote: So, can these two coexist? I've done it with debian packages, but I I am running Netscape 4.75, Mozilla M17-3 and the nightly mozilla builds without incident. I didn't do anything to install the nightly builds. I just made a menu entry for ~/mozilla/mozilla so they all get along fine :-). I have both installed the same way, and they work, but how do you get mozilla to use the plugins installed under netscape (such as rplayer)? ...RickM...
Re: machine lockups and kernel panic
On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Christian Pernegger wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 05:00:39PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Twice in the last week I've woken up to a locked-up dead potato machine and had to hit the power switch. I had the same symptoms, once or twice... Does anybody know what this means and why it would happen in the middle of the night? The debian cron jobs don't start until after 6am. I'm running kernel 2.2.17 built from potato debs. Same 'ere. Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Wed Oct 4 05:11:14 2000 ... timshel kernel: Kernel panic: VFS: LRU block list corrupted I've no way of knowing if I got such a message. How'd you debug such a thing? I don't have a clue. I need HELP! ...RickM...
machine lockups and kernel panic
Twice in the last week I've woken up to a locked-up dead potato machine and had to hit the power switch. I happened to have a window at work logged in to my home machine, and found these messages showing that it probably died at 5am due to a kernel panic. Does anybody know what this means and why it would happen in the middle of the night? The debian cron jobs don't start until after 6am. I'm running kernel 2.2.17 built from potato debs. timshel:~$ Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Wed Oct 4 05:10:40 2000 ... timshel kernel: Kernel panic: VFS: LRU block list corrupted Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Wed Oct 4 05:11:14 2000 ... timshel kernel: Kernel panic: VFS: LRU block list corrupted ...RickM...
Re: About Nestcape 4.75
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 08:27:03PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Actually, isn't it simply because communicator-*-475 packages are actually _different_ packages, and not new versions of the previous communicator-*-473 (or whatever) packages? IE, you can install them at the same time independently. Ah, that would make sense. Can you actually install them at the same time and not have the step on each other? Yes, it seems to work. I have all of these installed: timshel:~$ communicator communicator communicator-smotif-473 communicator-smotif-472 communicator-smotif-475 Really, IMHO, they should be versions of the same packages. Normally I would agree, except that Netscape is so unstable... ...RickM...
Re: About Nestcape 4.75
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Johann Spies wrote: On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:10:00AM -0500, Rogelio E. Castillo Haro wrote: To install netscape 4.75 on Potato, my sources.list must link to stable o unstable version? deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free enabled me to upgrade from 4.72 to 4.75. OK, I added this, ran apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade and it updated only netscape-base-4_1%3a4.75-2_i386.deb which is a tiny 37KB deb file. Did you actually get the full 4.75 installed? ...RickM...
Re: About Nestcape 4.75
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Nate Bargmann wrote: On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 01:49:52PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free enabled me to upgrade from 4.72 to 4.75. OK, I added this, ran apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade and it updated only netscape-base-4_1%3a4.75-2_i386.deb which is a tiny 37KB deb file. Did you actually get the full 4.75 installed? I had the same thing happen. I then ran dselect, did the update and select menus and rather than selecting any packages, I noted that it had selected NS to upgrade, went to the install option and the update worked fine, along with the glibc update. Dunno why the apt-get cammands didn't work... Ah, yes, now that you mention it, I did the same thing when I changed my source list to point to kde2. apt-get installed some base stuff, but the kde apps didn't update until a week or two later when I happened to run dselect for something else. ...RickM...
Re: About Nestcape 4.75
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 05:05:57PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Ah, yes, now that you mention it, I did the same thing when I changed my source list to point to kde2. apt-get installed some base stuff, but the kde apps didn't update until a week or two later when I happened to run dselect for something else. And why is this? This does not fill me with joy... I just fired up dselect, and the 4.75 files were all under the New packages section and they were not selected for install. Beats me... ...RickM...
Re: About Nestcape 4.75
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 05:05:57PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: Ah, yes, now that you mention it, I did the same thing when I changed my source list to point to kde2. apt-get installed some base stuff, but the kde apps didn't update until a week or two later when I happened to run dselect for something else. And why is this? This does not fill me with joy... Actually, isn't it simply because communicator-*-475 packages are actually _different_ packages, and not new versions of the previous communicator-*-473 (or whatever) packages? IE, you can install them at the same time independently. ...RickM...
sawfish vs sawmill?
What's the difference between sawfish and sawmill (for gnome)? They seem to conflict with each other, and have the same descriptions. Which is better/newer? ...RickM...
Re: Upgrade from potato to woody?
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Daniel E. Baumann wrote: O.K. Here is a question that I am sure has been asked before, but I could not find a concise enough answer. If I was to upgrade to woody from potato (or to do a general distribution ugrade in Debian from whatever to whatever) what are the steps that I would take, would it be: 1) change sources.list to point at woody 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get dist-upgrade ...RickM...
Re: netscape crashes
On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, John Reinke wrote: Ok, I know that netscape crashes, but it crashes more often for me than it used to. I have a fresh installation of netscape (communicator pkg) 4.73, and it crashes after viewing an average of twenty or thirty pages. It doesn't seem to be a java or javascript page, either. I have noticed that if I start it from the command line, it gives always gives a couple warnings: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ netscape [1] 30802 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls: /usr/lib/netscape/473/wrapper.d: No such file or directory ls: /usr/lib/netscape/473/communicator/wrapper.d: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ it still starts up and runs, but I thought it might have something to do with my problem. Anyone recognize this or have suggestions? I get the warnis as well. I noticed Netscape got worse lately too. I loaded mozilla. It doesn't crash on the javascript pages that crash netscape but it's a bit slow. ...RickM...
Re: mozilla M-17
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Michael Soulier wrote: So I upgraded mozilla to M-17, and all it does is segfault. Has anyone had any luck with this package? I ran it for a few minutes only while I was downloading the nightly snapshot. This was a week ago and it seem to run OK. ...RickM...
Re: can't ftp through IP Masq
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Stan Kaufman wrote: John Reinke wrote: Here's what my problem is (for those just joining): I have IP Masqing set up on a potato system, and everything works through it except ftp. The ftp clients on machines on the private network connect to external sites, but never are able to get a listing of the files or even retrieve files from those systems. John Sounds like you're running into the problems of establishing the proper ipchains ruleset for active vs passive ftp through your firewall, and this probably isn't an issue with ipmasq per se. I have the same problem, and just now discovered that I didn't config my 2.2.14 kernel with CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_MOD. So, I just set this flag and re-compiled the kernel, only to find that ip_masq_app.c was still not compiled because, I think, this in file net/ipv4/.depend: $(wildcard /usr/src/linux/include/config/ip/masq/debug.h) ip_masq_ftp.o: \ That debug.h file doesn't exist. I've just installed and am about to build the potato kernel-source-2.2.17_2.2.17pre6-1.deb package. Anybody have any comments about this? ...RickM...
Re: can't ftp through IP Masq
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, John Reinke wrote: I used 2.2.17pre6, and it handled compiling the modules for CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_MOD. Also, it sounds like there have been some security patches and things, so it is recommended to at least use 2.2.16 or newer. IP Masq howto I read (URL was in a previous message), strongly suggested 2.2.16 or newer as well. My compile just finished for 2.2.17pre6, and it still didn't compile ip_masq_ftp: ld -m elf_i386 -r -o ipv4.o ip_masq.o ip_masq_app.o ip_masq_mod.o utils.o route.o proc.o timer.o protocol.o ip_input.o ip_fragment.o ip_forward.o ip_options.o ip_output.o ip_sockglue.o tcp.o tcp_input.o tcp_output.o tcp_timer.o tcp_ipv4.o raw.o udp.o arp.o icmp.o devinet.o af_inet.o igmp.o sysctl_net_ipv4.o fib_frontend.o fib_semantics.o fib_hash.o ip_fw.o make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17/net/ipv4' What am I missing? I build the kernel with: make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image Here is the net sections of my .config file: # # Networking options # CONFIG_PACKET=y CONFIG_NETLINK=y # CONFIG_RTNETLINK is not set # CONFIG_NETLINK_DEV is not set CONFIG_FIREWALL=y # CONFIG_FILTER is not set CONFIG_UNIX=y CONFIG_INET=y # CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set # CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL=y # CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL_NETLINK is not set # CONFIG_IP_TRANSPARENT_PROXY is not set CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE=y # # Protocol-specific masquerading support will be built as modules. # CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_ICMP=y # # Protocol-specific masquerading support will be built as modules. # CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_MOD=y # CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_IPAUTOFW is not set # CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_IPPORTFW is not set # CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_MFW is not set # CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set # CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set # CONFIG_IP_ALIAS is not set # CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES is not set # # (it is safe to leave these untouched) # # CONFIG_INET_RARP is not set # CONFIG_SKB_LARGE is not set # CONFIG_IPV6 is not set # # # # CONFIG_IPX is not set # CONFIG_ATALK is not set # CONFIG_X25 is not set # CONFIG_LAPB is not set # CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set # CONFIG_LLC is not set # CONFIG_ECONET is not set # CONFIG_WAN_ROUTER is not set # CONFIG_NET_FASTROUTE is not set # CONFIG_NET_HW_FLOWCONTROL is not set # CONFIG_CPU_IS_SLOW is not set ...RickM...
Re: VMware and bridged networking
In the VMWare setup, there is one dialog where you can choose bridging AND host-only (checkbuttons), but a second dialog where you must choose one or the other (radio buttons). You must choose bridging, not host-only. Here is what DHCP sets for routes and ifconfig. You shouldn't have to use DHCP, but in the end yours should look very similar, I would think. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/vega/xp/src/base/misc$ netstat -rn Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 192.168.252.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.252.244 0.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/vega/xp/src/base/misc$ /sbin/ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:56:8E:FC:CB inet addr:192.168.252.46 Bcast:192.168.252.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1232844 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:80566 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Interrupt:9 Base address:0x1000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 ...RickM...
Re: Cool trick: gmc and Debs
On 11 Aug 2000, Christian Lynbech on satellite wrote: Greg == Greg Strockbine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can also browse tarballs, gzips, bzips, gzipped tarballs, bzipped tarballs, and zips as well, providing that the attendant gzip, bzip, tar, Greg well, gee, its starting to sound like emacs :-) Just to make the note: emacs is able to browse tar files, even if compressed, and I believe there is also support for .debs somewhere. Yes, in the editors/debview package. It was reported once that it didn't work with emacs v20, but I (the debview author) just tried and it seems to work fine. ...RickM...
Re: VMware and bridged networking
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote: Hi there, is there anyone using VMware under NT 4.0? I just installed it yesterday. I've successfully installed Debian 2.1r4 as a guest OS under VMware running in NT 4.0. It was very easy, I didn't have ANY problems whatsoever. I used potato. HOWEVER I can't get the networking stuff running. The AMC PCnet adapter is being found, I *can* ping the IP address of my real ethernet adapter (i.e. the IP address of the host OS,) I can ping the guest OS from the host OS, but I can't out of my box into the LAN. :-( In case it matters I'm using 192.168.0.* addresses for my LAN. Forwarding in NT is enabled. The VMware virtual ethernet adapter under NT has an IP address of 192.168.230.1. Is that ok? I'm not sure how the whole emulation thing works, so I don't understand how to fix my problems... I used DHCP during the potato installation (after loading the kernel and drivers from the 5 floppy set). Then it immediately was able to finish the installation from the net. Currently two services are running under NT: VMnet Bridge (for VMnet0) and VMnet DHCP Server. Do I really need the DHCP server? I normally don't use DHCP on my LAN, all IPs are assigned statically. Have you tried using an IP addr on the same subnet as NT's original IP? ...RickM...
Re: VMware and bridged networking
On Sat, 12 Aug 2000, Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote: On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:26:57 -0600 (MDT), Rick Macdonald wrote: [...] In case it matters I'm using 192.168.0.* addresses for my LAN. Forwarding in NT is enabled. The VMware virtual ethernet adapter under NT has an IP address of 192.168.230.1. Is that ok? I'm not sure how the whole emulation thing works, so I don't understand how to fix my problems... I used DHCP during the potato installation (after loading the kernel and drivers from the 5 floppy set). Then it immediately was able to finish the installation from the net. Are you using DHCP for your LAN, too? Or do you have dial-up networking only? This is an office LAN full of Win95/NT machines. So, my NT box uses DHCP, and now Linux under VMware does too. Have you tried using an IP addr on the same subnet as NT's original IP? No, I didn't fiddle with it because I don't know exactly what's going on. What exactly is the purpose of the IP address that is assigned to the virtual ethernet adapter? Can I freely choose a different IP? The idea is that you don't have to go buy a second ethernet adapter. The end result is as if you had two cards with separate IP addrs plugged into the same net/hub. You need to set up the Linux side with default routes, etc, just as if it was a stand-alone box. ...RickM...
Re: Netscape 6 PR2 with Debian 2.2
OK, I've been using M17 for the last hour and it hasn't crashed, not even with the JavaScript on www.bigbrother2000.com. I'm downloading the lasted nightly build, just for joillies. But what about plugins? Can I get the streaming RealPlayer plugin to work? ...RickM...
Re: Help needed
On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, USM Bish wrote: 2. The BackSpace key needs fixing for X. However placing xmodmap parameters in .xsessions or .Xdefaults does not seem to correct the problem, and I need to repeat the same over an xterm. Is there any way out? My xmodmap is run from ~/.xsession (note: not .xsessions) and works fine. There is a file /etc/X11/Xmodmap that Debian supplies. I suppose that's the official place to put it. /etc/X11/Xmodmap takes actual xmodmap parameters (keycode=xxx, etc). In ~/.xsession, I actually execute the xmodmap program with my own file of parameters: xmodmap /home/rickm/.Xmodmap ...RickM...
VMware with potato - any issues?
I'm just about to try VMware on my potato system to run Win 95 or 98. Are there any problems to know about? ...RickM...
Re: VMware with potato - any issues?
On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Bob Nielsen wrote: On Fri, Aug 04, 2000 at 10:59:10PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: I'm just about to try VMware on my potato system to run Win 95 or 98. Are there any problems to know about? It works like a charm. Good to hear! It would be nice to see Debian listed in their supported distribution list. Win4Lin also works (less features, but faster), but was a bit more of a hassle to set up (ymmv). I successfully run Quicken2000 under wine. I now would like to run some audio software that needs to record from CD or audio IN (from a cassette, etc). These programs slow music down while keeping the pitch constant (for learning guitar solos, etc). I think I checked and Win4Lin doesn't handle sound. The vmware page says that sound _input_ is now supported in v2.x. I don't suppose that you've accessed sound in this way? ...RickM...
Re: RealPlayer7 causes Netscape 4.72/3 bus error on startup
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Pollywog wrote: On 24-Jul-2000 Joey Hess wrote: Pollywog wrote: I uninstalled the RealPlayer package I had installed with the Debian install package. I made a new Deb package using Alien and the RPM package I downloaded and it works much better. Please degine much better. As the author of both alien and the realplayer installer package, my feelings arn't hurt that you chose one over the other, but I am very puzzled how alien could do a better job. When I installed the Debian package that is used to install what I downloaded from www.real.com, Netscape could not see the plugin, for some reason. This was not a problem when I downloaded the rpm from real.com and then used Alien to make a deb from it. Now I am able to actually use the RealPlayer plugin on Netscape. It worked for me this morning, installing all the potato debs at once with dselect in potato, using the rpm file as intended. ...RickM...
Re: RealPlayer7 causes Netscape 4.72/3 bus error on startup
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Pollywog wrote: Are you using the version of Plugger that installs with Netscape? That is what I have. I believe it does not come with Netscape but that it is part of the Debian installer for Netscape. Does anyone know for sure? It's a deb package of its own: web/plugger_3.2-3.deb ...RickM...
Re: RealPlayer7 causes Netscape 4.72/3 bus error on startup
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Pollywog wrote: What version of netscape, from where? It works for me and others. I am using 4.73 now and I have no problems with RealPlayer now. Now I have to figure out how to play mp3's from Netscape. It seems plugger will play them from some websites and not others. Post some examples of URL's that fail and we can see if it works for us. ...RickM...
Re: RealPlayer7 causes Netscape 4.72/3 bus error on startup
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Pollywog wrote: On 24-Jul-2000 Rick Macdonald wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Pollywog wrote: What version of netscape, from where? It works for me and others. I am using 4.73 now and I have no problems with RealPlayer now. Now I have to figure out how to play mp3's from Netscape. It seems plugger will play them from some websites and not others. Post some examples of URL's that fail and we can see if it works for us. ...RickM... This one worked, before I messed with the Application setting in Netscape: http://www.iuma.com/site-bin/mp3gen/29919/IUMA/Bands/The_Blackfoot_Brothers/aud io/The_Blackfoot_Brothers_-_Mountain_Dew.mp3 This one would not work: http://chooser.mp3.com/cgi-bin/play/play.cgi/AAIBQhqZAQDABG5vcm1QBFLtSgAAUQ IAAABDa_QzOa56IKBwCJ8bQYMvo.Cidtc-/lord_of_the_dance.m3u I followed the instructions for making this extension as they call it, work. It would not work. There were other links with endings in .mp3 that would not work, not just files with .m3u endings. I found the plugger website, which has a bunch of tests, and see that some don't work for me. http://www.hubbe.net/~hubbe/plugger.html ...RickM...
RealPlayer7 causes Netscape 4.72/3 bus error on startup
I can't get netscape 4.73 (tried debs and manual install) to work with RealPlayer7. The realplayer works fine on its own, but the plugin causes a bus error when netscape starts up (plugins/rpnp.so). 4.72 also fails. I tried deleting those ~/.RealNetworks* files ( I think somebody mentioned that), but that didn't help. My system is potato, current as of yesterday. Is anybody running RealPlayer7 on potato? BTW, for me, 4.72 seems more stable that 4.73 on javascript pages such as bigbrother2000.com. ...RickM...
RE: RealPlayer7 causes Netscape 4.72/3 bus error on startup
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Pollywog wrote: On 23-Jul-2000 Rick Macdonald wrote: I can't get netscape 4.73 (tried debs and manual install) to work with RealPlayer7. The realplayer works fine on its own, but the plugin causes a bus error when netscape starts up (plugins/rpnp.so). 4.72 also fails. I tried deleting those ~/.RealNetworks* files ( I think somebody mentioned that), but that didn't help. My system is potato, current as of yesterday. Is anybody running RealPlayer7 on potato? I am, in fact, a few moments ago I removed my Debian package for RealPlayer and I download the RPM file and used Alien to make a Deb. This Debian package works much better and I no longer have the problem you mentioned. I was just at BigBrother2000.com and RealPlayer worked great. I am using Netscape 4.73 Oh, I hadn't noticed that there was a deb for installing realplayer. I had removed the whole lot, so just now I reinstalled all the 4.73 debs including the realplayer, and guess what -- it works fine now. I don't know why. I had been installing the realplayer with it's own installer, not the rpm file that the deb wrapper uses. The javascript pages (bigbrother2000) also seem more stable with this 4.73. Beats me why! ...RickM...
Re: RealPlayer7 causes Netscape 4.72/3 bus error on startup
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Bob Nielsen wrote: Now I am trying to decide how to have Netscape play mp3 files. Plugger doesn't seem to cut it. Do you have mpg123 installed? Plugger suggests, but does not depend on it. It is necessary for playing mp3 files via plugger, however. Yes, the plugger seems to work on mp3 for me. ...RickM...
OT: wine hangs when executing winhelp
I finally have wine running Quicken2000. Help wasn't working at all. I found that I didn't have winhelp.exe or winhlp32.exe in wine's c:\windows directory. When I put either or both of these programs in place (using win95 for exe and dll), it gives this error and hangs Quicken: Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x9aac)! err:seh:EXC_DefaultHandling Exception frame is not in stack limits = unable to dispatch exception. X Error of failed request: BadIDChoice (invalid resource ID chosen for this connection) Major opcode of failed request: 1 (X_CreateWindow) Resource id in failed request: 0x4401402 Serial number of failed request: 39597 Current serial number in output stream: 39591 MSPAINT does a similar thing: Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x267f)! X Error of failed request: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 54 (X_FreePixmap) Resource id in failed request: 0x4400796 Serial number of failed request: 9856 Current serial number in output stream: 9837 The Xlib error happens right away. The failed request error I think might happen after I hit ^C in the xterm where I launched wine. Is Help meant to work? I'm using wine_1%3a0.2602.034622_i386.deb from deb http://www.hungrycats.org/%7Edrunkard/debian drunkard main ...RickM...
OT: Floppy disk change detection - auto mounts?
One thing that has always surprised me on Linux is that there doesn't seem to be any automatic mount/umount handling of floppy drives (DOS format). I guess I'm thinking of something similar to the pcmcia card manager that detects insert/remove events and automatically loads and unloads drivers. Perhaps there is and I missed it? /etc/fstab: /dev/fd0 /dosa msdos user,noauto I mount with: mount /dosa If I pop out the floppy and put in another, ls still shows the contents of the first floppy. Having to umount/mount for every floppy gets tedious! Is there some feature that I don't know about to help with this? I just switched from WABI to Wine for running Quicken. WABI accessed the floppy device directly and didn't need any external help. With Wine/Quicken, I have to do the mount/umount each time. Quicken2000 backup files don't fit on one floppy. I'm new to wine and not very trusting yet so I backup my work every 10 or 20 minutes. ...RickM...
Re: 128 bit version of Netscape 4.73
On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Brad wrote: I went ahead and downloaded the 128-bit versions of both Navigator and How did you download it? Using my current 4.72, I go through the netscape web pages to accept the strong encription but when I click on I accept it starts loading the 16MB into the window rather than offering to save to a file. SHIFT-click makes no difference - it's a button not a link. ...RickM...
Re: 128 bit version of Netscape 4.73
On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, ktb wrote: Rick Macdonald wrote: On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Brad wrote: I went ahead and downloaded the 128-bit versions of both Navigator and How did you download it? Using my current 4.72, I go through the netscape web pages to accept the strong encription but when I click on I accept it starts loading the 16MB into the window rather than offering to save to a file. SHIFT-click makes no difference - it's a button not a link. You could download what your looking for with an ftp program at -- ftp.netscape.com In the past I've never been able to find the strong encription versions in the ftp directories. I let the netscape download complete just now, and it passed the file via the tmp directory to xv for viewing. So, I just copied the file from the /tmp dir (before quitting xv) and now I have 4.73 installed! ...RickM...
