Re: Remove Evolution
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:52:29AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 23 mai 13, 22:59:00, Stephen Allen wrote: On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:06:23PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Wed 22 May 2013 at 07:34:03 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone. When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)? With aptitude: http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article8/uninstall-meta-package Unfortunately this suggestion didn't work. I had already marked Evolution packages as manually installed. I haven't read the link above, but marking Evolution as manually installed would not help you. Imagine the following: Package: gnome Depends: gnome-core, evolution, etc. The package 'gnome' is just a metapackage meant to pull all the others. If you try to uninstall evolution the package manager will have to uninstall the gnome metapackage as well (because the dependency is broken). If the other packages are marked as automatically installed it will want to remove them as well (not needed). What I would suggest is (the order matters): - mark evolution as automatically installed - mark any component of gnome you want to keep as manually installed - remove the gnome metapackage If there are no circular Depends or Recommends this should also remove evolution, but if it didn't you will have to do it manually. Beware, this is not tested, you might need to adjust it a bit, but the principle is the same. Also aptitude's visual mode is best suited for this. Press 'g' once and you will be presented with all proposed actions. Go through the list and press '+' on every package you want to keep. Thanks Andre. I don't use or care for aptitude interactive -- I use it from the command line. :) However your advice is good, and worked. Didn't realize when I wrote the 1st email that the Gnome metapackage it wanted to remove was/appears to be the classic version, which I don't use. So removing it, wasn't an issue as I use Gnome-Shell. All is well, evolution is removed and I'm a happy Debian Stable, laptop user once again. -- Cheers, Stephen, Toronto My Google+ Profile | http://goo.gl/JbQsq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130524112108.ga6...@thunkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: Remove Evolution
On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:11:13AM +0100, Brian wrote: On Thu 23 May 2013 at 22:59:00 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:06:23PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Wed 22 May 2013 at 07:34:03 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone. When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)? With aptitude: http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article8/uninstall-meta-package ---end quoted text--- Unfortunately this suggestion didn't work. I had already marked Evolution packages as manually installed. You may have done but the blog page doesn't offer that as a technique. We may as well put its advice here: Well, there is a solution: marking all the dependencies of the meta-package as manually installed, that is, faking that you installed them explicitly Aptitude is able to do that with its powerful search functions: aptitude unmarkauto '?reverse-depends(gnome) | ?reverse-recommends(gnome)' aptitude unmarkauto '?reverse-depends(gnome-core) | ?reverse-recommends(gnome-core)' aptitude unmarkauto '?reverse-depends(gnome-desktop-environment) | ?reverse-recommends(gnome-desktop-environment)' This works for me to purge Evolution without removing other needed software. Thanks for your effort to help me, mucho appreciated! In the light of day the packages it was going to remove were non-essential in the running of gnome-shell. Note to self: Don't do work late in the day. -- Cheers, Stephen, Toronto My Google+ Profile | http://goo.gl/JbQsq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130524112657.gb6...@thunkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: Remove Evolution
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 08:44:03AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: It's off topic, but I was *sure* this was about a Creationist trying to interfere with biology education. -- Carl Fink c...@finknetwork.com ---end quoted text--- LOLz -- Cheers, Stephen, Toronto My Google+ Profile | http://goo.gl/JbQsq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130524023022.ga3...@thunkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: Remove Evolution
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:06:23PM +0100, Brian wrote: On Wed 22 May 2013 at 07:34:03 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone. When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)? With aptitude: http://tanguy.ortolo.eu/blog/article8/uninstall-meta-package ---end quoted text--- Unfortunately this suggestion didn't work. I had already marked Evolution packages as manually installed. But thanks! -- Cheers, Stephen, Toronto My Google+ Profile | http://goo.gl/JbQsq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130524025900.gb3...@thunkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Remove Evolution
Greetings. I'd like to remove Evolution from my Debian laptop installation as I use my browser to access email/calendar online via my tablet or phone. When I attempt to do so, aptitude informs me that it will remove pretty much the entire Gnome-Shell as well. How do I remove what I want while keeping my desktop whole (sans Evolution)? Thanks! -- Cheers, Stephen, Toronto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130522113403.ga6...@thunkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore
On Sun, 19 May 2013 22:57:28 -0400 (EDT), staticsafe wrote: Althought the vga=ext option is deprecated with the linux command in Grub2, it is still available with the linux16 command in Grub2 as it is with the linux command in Grub-legacy. If Grub2 displays vga=ext is deprecated. Use set gfxpayload=text before linux command instead you don't need to downgrade to grub-legacy. Just replace linux and initrd by linux16 and initrd16 in each menuentry bloc you want to use VGA mode and add vga=ext or vga=F01 near the end of the linux16 line to get 80x50 text consoles instead of framebuffer. You may also replace ext by F00, F01, F02, F03, F05, F06 or F07 to get alternate VGA text resolutions (respectively 80x25, 80x50, 80x43, 80x28, 80x30, 80x34 and 80x60). Use vga=ask to get a chance at boot time to list all available VGA/VESA resolutions and chose one interactively before Grub2 passes control to the kernel. If you edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg instead of /etc/grub.d/10_linux remember your changes will be dropped if update-grub is launched. By the way, vga=normal is equivalent to vga=F00 and vga=ext is equivalent to vga=F01. - http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition#fndef-231bbb76472490d8f289f110d30d2d982e08a663-0 Thanks for posting this, staticsafe. I am a lilo user, but if I am ever forced to use grub2 in the future, at least I now know how to get the vga option to work. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1442823568.1287408.1369085018358.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore
On Sun, 19 May 2013 23:15:54 -0400 (EDT), Dirk wrote: but... i ask myself: /why/ i am supposed to read and memorize all this when even /lilo/ is still working...? lilo, then grub, then grub2... no real change in functionality... a kernel gets booted.. that's it... but all three function differently... it is like someone wants to keep frustrating 08/15-users before linux has even booted... I don't know what you mean by 08/15-users, but if you decide you want to switch back to lilo, you might find the following web page useful: http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/lilo.htm -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2027006505.1287538.1369085550459.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore
On Mon, 20 May 2013 02:48:55 -0400 (EDT), Sven wrote: Good luck in patching LILO to work without a BIOS. It is true that lilo requires a BIOS interface. However, many EFI/UEFI machines also provide a BIOS for forward compatibility; so lilo may still work. However, for those EFI/UEFI machines that do not have a BIOS interface, those looking for an alternative to grub2 may want to look at elilo. I've never used it myself; but it appears that elilo is a boot loader based in design on lilo that is designed to use the EFI interface. I'd be interested in feedback from elilo users out there on how well it works and how they like it. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/674656979.1287714.1369086142137.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: The order of my SATA and PATA are switching all the time
On Wed, 08 May 2013 21:21:13 -0400 (EDT), Tong wrote: All I was asking is what the working *syntax* for the root=ID=ata-IBM-DBCA-203240_HP0HPL43952 part. You can't use ID with root. With boot, you can, but not with root. Not if you want a driver-independent and discover-order-independent root file system specification. As I've said several times, it's UUID or LABEL. Period. It's all in the web page I referenced in my original post on this thread. Read the web page. It's all there. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/192274445.1121014.1368212220742.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: The order of my SATA and PATA are switching all the time
On Tue, 07 May 2013 23:28:47 -0400 (EDT), Tong wrote: On Tue, 07 May 2013 07:55:24 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: This problem, and its solution, are discussed at length on my LILO web page, starting with the discussion of the boot configuration file record. http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/lilo.htm Indeed! The solution to this problem is to use a udev-created symbolic link. In the example configuration file above, /dev/disk/by-id/ata-IBM- DBCA-203240_HP0HPL43952 is a udev-created symbolic link to the MBR of the (normal) boot drive, regardless of which driver is used for IDE hard disks and regardless of how many disk drives are in the system, the order in which they are discovered, or what the boot device is. That's a good suggestion, but I noticed that the example you gave has: boot=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-IBM-DBCA-203240_HP0HPL43952 root=UUID=04db5929-51e6-424a-ac5b-a592b96b9d04 I.e., they are not using the same thing. Of course not! The boot configuration file record points to the Master Boot Record in the above example. The root configuration file record points to a particular partition on the hard disk which has an ext2/ext3 file system on it. They are not the same. They are not supposed to be the same. I think you have some conceptual errors in your mind that you need to resolve. As said before, it is not that I can't boot, I can always boot just fine, but half of the time the boot process will drop to (initramfs) PANIC mode. I.e., it is always the root= boot option that give me the trouble, yet, I don't like using UUID, because, just as you said: Warning: reformatting a partition normally changes the uuid, unless the existing uuid is explicitly specified as an option when formatting. Thus, commands such as mkfs (and its derivatives) and mkswap will normally change the uuid, which in turn will change the udev-created symbolic link in /dev/disk/by-uuid, which in turn may necessitate changes to /etc/ lilo.conf. Can I use something like root=ID=ata-IBM-DBCA-203240_HP0HPL43952? I remember nothing worked well, so I reverted to the (now troublesome) safe /dev/sdXn. /dev/sdXn is *not* safe. That's the whole point. If your boot loader is LILO, the only safe root file system specifications are one of these two forms: root=UUID=... root=LABEL=... You must refer to the root file system by its uuid or by its disk label, if there is one. Yes, reformatting a partition will normally change the uuid and label, unless the old uuid and label are explicitly specified when formatting. But that's under your control. And this is something that does not change from one boot to the next. Device assignments can. Make sure that you use this technique in your boot loader configuration file, /etc/fstab, and /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume. (/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume is going to point to a swap partition.) If you have to change /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume, you must rebuild your initial RAM file system afterwards, since this file is included in the initial RAM file system. update-initramfs -uk $(uname -r) And obviously, if you change your boot loader configuration file, such as /etc/lilo.conf, you must rerun your boot loader installer afterwards. lilo -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/824048839.1073721.1368016857669.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: The order of my SATA and PATA are switching all the time
On Mon, 06 May 2013 23:28:01 -0400 (EDT), Tong wrote: Recently I added an old PATA HD to my system, which previously consist of two SATA HDs. Ever since then, the order of my SATA and PATA are keep switching. This problem, and its solution, are discussed at length on my LILO web page, starting with the discussion of the boot configuration file record. http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/lilo.htm Basically, use udev-created symbolic links in /etc/fstab, /etc/initramfs/conf.d/resume, and your boot loader. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1030437225.1052412.1367927724168.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: The order of my SATA and PATA are switching all the time
On Tue, 07 May 2013 07:55:24 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: Basically, use udev-created symbolic links in /etc/fstab, /etc/initramfs/conf.d/resume, and your boot loader. Oops! I meant to say /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume, not /etc/initramfs/conf.d/resume. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/72450583.1065595.1367968238094.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Man Hates Less
On Tue, 07 May 2013 18:46:05 -0400 (EDT), Draco Metallium wrote: Last night I did a dist-upgrade of my wheezy debian, today I woke up without less. I tried to install it via apt-get install less but it removes both man-db and debhelper. Does anyone know why is that? I am alone here? Should I panic? Thank a lot! Was it your intention to upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie? If not, then I'm guessing that you are using testing rather than wheezy in /etc/apt/sources.list. This is a perfect example of why you should always use a release code name, not a status, in /etc/apt/sources.list. Wheezy is no longer the testing release. It is now the stable release. Jessie is the new testing release. I intentionally did an upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie, but when I saw that aptitude full-upgrade intended to delete less, I aborted it and did an aptitude safe-upgrade instead. You obviously gave it permission to delete less. You should pay closer attention to what you give it permission to do. Given that you did, your options are limited. Wait for less to be upgraded to a new release that is compatible with man-db, if possible. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/631375174.1066367.1367969019893.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased
On Sun, 2013-05-05 at 15:19 -0400, staticsafe wrote: Forwarding to list as it was sent directly to me. Original Message Subject: Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 20:05:20 +0100 From: James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com To: staticsafe m...@staticsafe.ca Hi, Is there an up to date upgrade guide for existing installations? Also I want to replace Gnome 2 with XFCE as part of the process, if anyone's gone through that procedure? Thanks, James On 5 May 2013 18:31, staticsafe m...@staticsafe.ca wrote: On 5/5/2013 12:13, Patrick Bartek wrote: Noted with pleasure Wheezy is officially Stable. Guess it's time to switch from dist-upgrade I've been doing all these months during the transition to Stable to upgrade. Thanks to the developers for all their hard work. B The news post - http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20130504 -- staticsafe O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org Please don't top post - http://goo.gl/YrmAb Don't CC me! I'm subscribed to whatever list I just posted on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51869782.6090...@staticsafe.ca It's very easy to install XFCE. Drill down in the graphical installer to other desktops and make your selection -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1367783075.16346.1.ca...@abnormal.att.net
Re: Problem with Konsole
On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 10:56 +0200, Morel Bérenger wrote:
Le Ven 3 mai 2013 10:20, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
On Friday 03 May 2013 09:16:32 Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 03 May 2013 09:02:56 Morel Bérenger wrote:
Le Jeu 2 mai 2013 21:03, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit :
64 bit Debian Testing/XFCE.
When I open a console an untitled X File Window opens. This just
started today and I don't have a clue as to what is going on.
It is rather annoying because I don't get a prompt in the console
until I close this unwanted app.
Does anyone have an idea as to what is going on here and how I can
fix the problem?
Thanks in advance.
[snip]
I also noticed that you speak about using Konsole on XFCE.
He didn't!! There is no mention of Konsole. He talks about a
console. The generic term, not the KDE version of it.
Sorry. It is in the subject line. I just read the post. Mea culpa. :-(
Perhaps the K in the subject line was a slip of the tongue.
Lisi
No problem :)
And since the 'K' is not a 'k' I really think he is using the KDE's console.
Thanks for the replies and sorry for the confusion. I have narrowed the
problem down to xfe. One of the xfe dependencies is libfox which seems
to be causing the problem.
I normally use Konsole, but the problem is there with any of the
consoles that I've checked.
Also, I get a .bash error when the when I close the X File Viewer. I've
looked at .bashrc and don't see anything that seems unusual. I've
attached the file and would appreciate more sets of eyes.
I solved the problem by removing xfe from the system, but that's a
rather draconian. I would like to continue to use xfe, but need a
solution to the problem.
Thanks in advance.
--
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# ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
# see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files (in the package bash-doc)
# for examples
# If not running interactively, don't do anything
case $- in
*i*) ;;
*) return;;
esac
# don't put duplicate lines or lines starting with space in the history.
# See bash(1) for more options
HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth
# append to the history file, don't overwrite it
shopt -s histappend
# for setting history length see HISTSIZE and HISTFILESIZE in bash(1)
HISTSIZE=1000
HISTFILESIZE=2000
# check the window size after each command and, if necessary,
# update the values of LINES and COLUMNS.
shopt -s checkwinsize
# If set, the pattern ** used in a pathname expansion context will
# match all files and zero or more directories and subdirectories.
#shopt -s globstar
# make less more friendly for non-text input files, see lesspipe(1)
#[ -x /usr/bin/lesspipe ] eval $(SHELL=/bin/sh lesspipe)
# set variable identifying the chroot you work in (used in the prompt below)
if [ -z ${debian_chroot:-} ] [ -r /etc/debian_chroot ]; then
debian_chroot=$(cat /etc/debian_chroot)
fi
# set a fancy prompt (non-color, unless we know we want color)
case $TERM in
xterm-color) color_prompt=yes;;
esac
# uncomment for a colored prompt, if the terminal has the capability; turned
# off by default to not distract the user: the focus in a terminal window
# should be on the output of commands, not on the prompt
#force_color_prompt=yes
if [ -n $force_color_prompt ]; then
if [ -x /usr/bin/tput ] tput setaf 1 /dev/null; then
# We have color support; assume it's compliant with Ecma-48
# (ISO/IEC-6429). (Lack of such support is extremely rare, and such
# a case would tend to support setf rather than setaf.)
color_prompt=yes
else
color_prompt=
fi
fi
if [ $color_prompt = yes ]; then
PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$
'
else
PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ '
fi
unset color_prompt force_color_prompt
# If this is an xterm set the title to user@host:dir
case $TERM in
xterm*|rxvt*)
PS1=\[\e]0;${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h: \w\a\]$PS1
;;
*)
;;
esac
# enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
if [ -x /usr/bin/dircolors ]; then
test -r ~/.dircolors eval $(dircolors -b ~/.dircolors) || eval
$(dircolors -b)
alias ls='ls --color=auto'
#alias dir='dir --color=auto'
#alias vdir='vdir --color=auto'
#alias grep='grep --color=auto'
#alias fgrep='fgrep --color=auto'
#alias egrep='egrep --color=auto'
fi
# some more ls aliases
#alias ll='ls -l'
#alias la='ls -A'
#alias l='ls -CF'
# Alias definitions.
# You may want to put all your additions into a separate file like
# ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly.
# See /usr/share/doc/bash-doc/examples in the bash-doc package.
xfview
if [ -f ~/.bash_aliases ]; then
. ~/.bash_aliases
fi
# enable
Re: Problem with Konsole
On Fri, 2013-05-03 at 12:41 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 07:36:18AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: [cut] Thanks for the replies and sorry for the confusion. I have narrowed the problem down to xfe. One of the xfe dependencies is libfox which seems to be causing the problem. I normally use Konsole, but the problem is there with any of the consoles that I've checked. Also, I get a .bash error when the when I close the X File Viewer. I've looked at .bashrc and don't see anything that seems unusual. I've attached the file and would appreciate more sets of eyes. I solved the problem by removing xfe from the system, but that's a rather draconian. I would like to continue to use xfe, but need a solution to the problem. Thanks in advance. [cut] # Alias definitions. # You may want to put all your additions into a separate file like # ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly. # See /usr/share/doc/bash-doc/examples in the bash-doc package. xfview ^^ There's your problem. Bash is launching xfview every time. if [ -f ~/.bash_aliases ]; then . ~/.bash_aliases fi [cut] Problem is solved! Thank you very much -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1367590576.2889.10.ca...@abnormal.att.net
Problem with Konsole
64 bit Debian Testing/XFCE. When I open a console an untitled X File Window opens. This just started today and I don't have a clue as to what is going on. It is rather annoying because I don't get a prompt in the console until I close this unwanted app. Does anyone have an idea as to what is going on here and how I can fix the problem? Thanks in advance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1367521402.11137.5.ca...@abnormal.att.net
Guvcview Sound Problem
Wheezy/Testing 64bit I have a problem with the video sound in guvcview. The video works, but the sound doesn't, although I have sound in the browsers I have installed. I recorded a log file (attached) which contains a bunch of error messages, for example: ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.front.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory How do I determine the source of the missing files, so that I can install whatever is needed? Any other help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Script started on Mon 22 Apr 2013 07:20:35 AM EDT ]0;computation@abnormal: ~computation@abnormal:~$ guvcview guvcview 1.5.3 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.front.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM front ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.surround40.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround40 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.surround51.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround41 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.surround51.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround50 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.surround51.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround51 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.surround71.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround71 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.iec958.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM iec958 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.iec958.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM spdif ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.iec958.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM spdif ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.hdmi ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.hdmi ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.modem ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.modem ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.phoneline ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.phoneline ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:957:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server request channel jack server is not running or cannot be
Guvcview Sound Problem
Wheezy/Testing 64bit I have a problem with the video sound in guvcview. The video works, but the sound doesn't, although I have sound in the browsers I have installed. I recorded a log file (attached) which contains a bunch of error messages, for example: ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.front.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory How do I determine the source of the missing files, so that I can install whatever is needed? Any other help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for ChemistryStochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 Script started on Mon 22 Apr 2013 07:20:35 AM EDT ]0;computation@abnormal: ~computation@abnormal:~$ guvcview guvcview 1.5.3 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.front.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM front ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.surround40.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround40 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.surround51.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround41 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.surround51.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround50 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.surround51.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround51 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.surround71.0:CARD=0' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround71 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.iec958.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM iec958 ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.iec958.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM spdif ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ES1938.pcm.iec958.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2' ALSA lib conf.c:4241:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory ALSA lib conf.c:4720:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM spdif ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.hdmi ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.hdmi ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.modem ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.modem ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.phoneline ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.phoneline ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:957
Re: LILO documentation
On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:12:51 -0400 (EDT), Richard Owlett wrote: I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf. I don't know about complete documentation, but the best lilo tutorial that I know of is http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/lilo.htm I wrote the above-mentioned web page myself; so if you have any complaints, the buck stops here. Also, if you have any suggestions for improving the page, I'm open to suggestions. If, after reading the entire page, you have any specific questions, I'll be happy to at least try to answer them. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/526983301.764795.1366476714640.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
RE: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE
Please, Folks, listen to the voice of reason. Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -Original Message- From: Ralf Mardorf [mailto:ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 9:17 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 00:28 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: Btw. IMO this belongs to http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/d-communit y-offtopic if we should continue without witch-hunting. IMO discussion belongs right here for reasons I stated above. Besides, your insistence to quickly kill this discussion by moving it to an obscure list ... Obscure list :-O :) I absolutely do not want to kill this discussion. While other people joined Facebook, Twitter etc., I joined d-community-offtopic. It's not obscure. FWIW Chris and some others are subscribed too. I don't want denunciation and conspiracy theories, because I disagree myself with many upstream folks. I experienced myself that they discredited me. Why should we behave in the same or more bad way as they do? To discredit and to denunciate is wrong. Conspiracy theories are idiotic. We've got some real tasks to solve, so lets start doing it and not care about a hand full of people. Again, we could talk about dbus, Firefox and Co. and than united talk to upstream. This is how civilized beings act, not by acting as the [snip] :D If I would name it, would it be a Godwin's law case? Really? To discredit people and to denunciate people with photos and obscure claims was exactly what the [snip] did. The OP has got an obscure email address. There's no evidence for that claim. So that claim belongs to /dev/null. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1365427043.12191.244.camel@archlinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/02d301ce345e$4e60a5d0$eb21f170$@mol...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Sound Problem -- More Information
On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 23:40:49 +1300 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 01:59:40PM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 11:22:48 -0400 From: Stephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Sound Problem 64 bit Debian Wheezy/Testing. I had to reinstall the OS duer to a HD failure. Sound worked prior to that. computation@abnormal:~$ aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: Solo1 [ESS ES1938 (Solo-1)], device 0: es-1938-1946 [ESS Solo-1] Subdevices: 2/2 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 When I run speaker-test I get the following: computation@abnormal:~$ sudo speaker-test [sudo] password for computation: speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is default Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 32 to 16384 Period size range from 32 to 16384 Using max buffer size 16384 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 4096 was set buffer_size = 16384 0 - Front Left Write error: -5,Input/output TL;DR -- too much information. Run all commands as root, this will stop permission errors obscuring results. I don't mean using sudo, either. Get out of X before running speaker-test That xruns error comes from X? Can you try from a live CD, hopefully, rule out hardware (or software!) Are you sure your card does not require firmware? Thanks for your reply. Actually, I had run the tests that I reported as root as well as sudo and got the same response = no sound. However, I started to rerun the tests, as per your suggestion, and miraculously, sound started working! Now, from a scientific viewpoint, I believe in serendipity, but not in miracles. However, I willing to accept the fact that the speaker in now generating intelligible sound. Ping works, as does the sound in a browser. Pink noise generated in speaker-test is a roaring hiss, not the sound that I get when I access pink noise in youtube. I can accept that because I subscribe to the adage that 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it', and the lesser spoken corollary 'If it ain't broke, fix it it it will be'. There is a problem with Skype. The speaker works, but the microphone doesn't. I do have a clue. Before the HD crash and subsequent installation of the OS on the new HD the microphone setting (that worked allowing a video call) was: USB Device 0x46d:0x807, USB Audio (hw:2,0) Now, in the reinstalled Skype version, that worked before, on the new OS. there are a number of audio settings, the one most similar to the one that worked is: USB Device 0x46d:0x807, USB Audio (hw:1,0) note the only difference. The question becomes, how do I change (hw:1,0) to (hw:2.0? Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for ChemistryStochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130407091912.13d85...@abnormal.att.net
Sound Problem
64 bit Debian Wheezy/Testing. I had to reinstall the OS duer to a HD failure. Sound worked prior to that. computation@abnormal:~$ aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: Solo1 [ESS ES1938 (Solo-1)], device 0: es-1938-1946 [ESS Solo-1] Subdevices: 2/2 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 When I run speaker-test I get the following: computation@abnormal:~$ sudo speaker-test [sudo] password for computation: speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is default Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 32 to 16384 Period size range from 32 to 16384 Using max buffer size 16384 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 4096 was set buffer_size = 16384 0 - Front Left Write error: -5,Input/output error xrun_recovery failed: -5,Input/output error Transfer failed: Operation not permitted I would appreciate a pointer to the solution. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for ChemistryStochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130405112248.3def4...@abnormal.att.net
Fw: Sound Problem -- More Information
Begin forwarded message: Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 11:22:48 -0400 From: Stephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Sound Problem 64 bit Debian Wheezy/Testing. I had to reinstall the OS duer to a HD failure. Sound worked prior to that. computation@abnormal:~$ aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: Solo1 [ESS ES1938 (Solo-1)], device 0: es-1938-1946 [ESS Solo-1] Subdevices: 2/2 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 When I run speaker-test I get the following: computation@abnormal:~$ sudo speaker-test [sudo] password for computation: speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is default Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 32 to 16384 Period size range from 32 to 16384 Using max buffer size 16384 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 4096 was set buffer_size = 16384 0 - Front Left Write error: -5,Input/output error xrun_recovery failed: -5,Input/output error Transfer failed: Operation not permitted I would appreciate a pointer to the solution. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for ChemistryStochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130405112248.3def4...@abnormal.att.net I followed the steps found in: http://stray-notes.blogspot.com/2010/08/alsa-sound-setup-debian.html Here are the results of the testing. root@abnormal:/home/computation# cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24. root@abnormal:/home/computation# cat /dev/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.24 emulation code) Kernel: Linux abnormal 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.41-2 x86_64 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: ESS ES1938 (Solo-1) rev 0, irq 17 USB Device 0x46d:0x807 at usb-:00:02.1-3, high speed Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: 0: ESS ES1938 (Solo-1) MIDI Timers: 31: system timer Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG At this point in the URL the instructions say to open alsmixer and play with the settings. Alsmixer found the soundcard and all of the functions keys worked .I attempted to do this, but alsamixer was nonresponsive, For instance 'M' did not unmute the master Going on with the testing. root@abnormal:/home/computation# cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Solo1 ]: ES1938 - ESS ES1938 (Solo-1) ESS ES1938 (Solo-1) rev 0, irq 17 1 [U0x46d0x807]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x807 USB Device 0x46d:0x807 at usb-:00:02.1-3, high speed root@abnormal:/home/computation# cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Solo1 ]: ES1938 - ESS ES1938 (Solo-1) ESS ES1938 (Solo-1) rev 0, irq 17 1 [U0x46d0x807]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x807 USB Device 0x46d:0x807 at usb-:00:02.1-3, high speed root@abnormal:/home/computation# cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Solo1 ]: ES1938 - ESS ES1938 (Solo-1) ESS ES1938 (Solo-1) rev 0, irq 17 1 [U0x46d0x807]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x807 USB Device 0x46d:0x807 at usb-:00:02.1-3, high speed root@abnormal:/home/computation# lspci | grep Audio 01:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1938/ES1946/ES1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive (rev 01) root@abnormal:/home/computation# lspci -v -01:01.0 lspci: invalid option -- '0' Usage: lspci [switches] Basic display modes: -mm Produce machine-readable output (single -m for an obsolete format) -t Show bus tree Display options: -v Be verbose (-vv for very verbose) -k Show kernel drivers handling each device -x Show hex-dump of the standard part of the config space -xxxShow hex-dump of the whole config space (dangerous; root only) - Show hex-dump of the 4096-byte extended config space (root only) -b Bus-centric view (addresses and IRQ's as seen by the bus) -D Always show domain numbers Resolving of device ID's to names: -n Show numeric ID's -nn Show both textual and numeric ID's (names numbers) -q Query the PCI ID database for unknown ID's via DNS -qq As above, but re-query locally cached entries -Q Query the PCI ID database for all ID's via DNS Selection of devices: -s domain]:]bus]:][slot][.[func]] Show only devices in selected slots -d [vendor]:[device]Show only devices with specified ID's Other options: -i file Use specified ID database instead
Wheezy/Testing Sound Problem
I have just re-installed Wheezy/Testing/Xfce on my production computer. Te action was caused by a HD failure. The sound was working before the disaster. The problem is that the sound is not working at this point, other that clicking noises as the system is booting. lspci -v as a user gave me (in part): 01:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1938/ES1946/ES1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive (rev 01) Subsystem: ESS Technology Solo-1 Audio Adapter Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 64, IRQ 17 I/O ports at e080 [size=64] I/O ports at e000 [size=16] I/O ports at dc00 [size=16] I/O ports at d880 [size=4] I/O ports at d800 [size=4] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: snd_es1938 I assume (always dangerous of course) that the next to the last line is the problem. I would appreciate a pointer to the solution. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for ChemistryStochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130403094026.4d78b...@abnormal.att.net
Fw: Wheezy/Testing Sound Problem - Follow-up to First Message
Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 09:40:26 -0400 From: Stephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.net To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Wheezy/Testing Sound Problem I have just re-installed Wheezy/Testing/Xfce on my production computer. Te action was caused by a HD failure. The sound was working before the disaster. The problem is that the sound is not working at this point, other that clicking noises as the system is booting. lspci -v as a user gave me (in part): 01:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1938/ES1946/ES1969 Solo-1 Audiodrive (rev 01) Subsystem: ESS Technology Solo-1 Audio Adapter Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 64, IRQ 17 I/O ports at e080 [size=64] I/O ports at e000 [size=16] I/O ports at dc00 [size=16] I/O ports at d880 [size=4] I/O ports at d800 [size=4] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: snd_es1938 I assume (always dangerous of course) that the next to the last line is the problem. I would appreciate a pointer to the solution. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for ChemistryStochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 I just ran this: computation@abnormal:~$ /usr/bin/speaker-test speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is default Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 1 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 32 to 16384 Period size range from 32 to 16384 Using max buffer size 16384 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 4096 was set buffer_size = 16384 0 - Front Left Write error: -32,Broken pipe Write error: -5,Input/output error xrun_recovery failed: -5,Input/output error Transfer failed: Operation not permitted -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130403094026.4d78b...@abnormal.att.net -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for ChemistryStochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130403144841.658ef...@abnormal.att.net
Re: console mode
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:50:56 -0400 (EDT), Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 29 March 2013 13:15:13 Linux-Fan wrote: Question: what are the default use assigned to the f1 through f7 consoles. i do understand that f7 is gui. Sometimes also F8. Gnome (and probably other desktop environments also) only uses F8 when restarted, and then only due to a bug. If you perform the logout function after logging in to the GUI, Gnome is supposed to shutdown and then restart again on vt7. Unfortunately, due to a bug, vt7 does not get completely deallocated. Thus, when Gnome tries to restart, it finds vt7 apparently in use and moves on to vt8. Here's how to circumvent this bug. After performing the logout function and the GUI login screen is presented, switch to a text console, login as root, and issue the following sequence of commands: /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop deallocvt 8 killall console-kit-daemon deallocvt 7 /etc/init.d/gdm3 start Gnome should restart on vt7 this time. console-kit-daemon appears to be the culprit. If you issue deallocvt 7 before killing console-kit-daemon, deallocvt 7 will fail. I reported this as a bug a long time ago, but nothing has been done about it. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1357239418.371627.1364650434440.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
FW: Problem with Synaptic in Wheezy/Testing
Thanks for your reply. Apparently the problem fixed itself. The next day Synaptic was back to normal. Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -Original Message- From: Chris Bannister [mailto:cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:34 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Problem with Synaptic in Wheezy/Testing On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 08:48:55AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: Synaptic 0.75.12 in 64 bit Wheezy/Testing This is a new installation (several days ago). Up until yesterday I could open Synaptic as a user from the pull down System/Synaptic Package Manager. This morning that route doesn't work! I can, however, open Synaptic in a terminal with: sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic I have no idea as to what the problem, or the solution, may be. Any pointers towards a solution will be much appreciated. You mean there is problem with the menu not showing synaptic as an option, or it shows it as an option but nothing happens when selected? Also I'd say it is a problem with your DE/WM whatever that is. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130313073349.GE7765@tal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/099c01ce1fd3$0cef4150$26cdc3f0$@mol...@sbcglobal.net
Problem with Synaptic in Wheezy/Testing
Synaptic 0.75.12 in 64 bit Wheezy/Testing This is a new installation (several days ago). Up until yesterday I could open Synaptic as a user from the pull down System/Synaptic Package Manager. This morning that route doesn't work! I can, however, open Synaptic in a terminal with: sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic I have no idea as to what the problem, or the solution, may be. Any pointers towards a solution will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130312084855.52a68...@abnormal.att.net
Debian Wheezy Grub Problem
My main Linux computer (64bit CPU) is about six or seven years old now and has had a number of distributions running. As I haven't had any luck with upgrades, I've always done a complete installation. Currently the Grub boot menu has a number of choices: openSUSE Advanced options for openSUSE openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) Advanced options for openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) Debian GNU/Linux (6.0.5) Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux (6.0.5) Debian GNU/Linux (6.0.4) Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux (6.0.4) There are a number of things that I find puzzling. First of all, the most recent installation is Debian Wheezy/Testing (7.0), and, in fact, WebMin tells me that the installed Operating system is Debian Linux 7.0. In order to boot into what is now my default Linux, installed on /dev/hda I have to select the seventh option of the menu which is mislabeled as 6.0.4. I had successfully installed some of the distributions on other than /dev/hda, but the last several installation have been on the Primary Master HD. The computer boots well with the seventh entry in the menu, which is not the default. This is rather annoying. I have become thoroughly confused by the information I've found about grub2. I am not a hardware person and am rather loathe to make any changes to the boot loader, given my current high degree of mental entropy. I thought about switching to lilo and, in fact, tried that out successfully on a laptop running Wheeezy in a VM. When I tried that on the tower /sbin/lilo complained that it couldn't open /etc/lilo.conf, even though I used sudo. Fortunately, my act of desperation didn't render grub inoperable. I would appreciate any insights. Thanks in advance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130312145952.30b5e...@abnormal.att.net
Problem with LAN Printer in Testing
I have just installed Debian Wheezy/Testing on my main production machine. HPLIP-3.12.6 sets up the LAN printer, but when I attempt printing a test page I get the following messages: computation@abnormal:~$ /usr/bin/hp-printsettings HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.6) Printer Settings Utility ver. 1.0 Copyright (c) 2001-14 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details. WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/computation/.cache/keyring-Ai4f8n/pkcs11: No such file or directory Done. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130310151222.5b4bd...@abnormal.att.net
64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation
Let me start with a disclaimer - I am not a hardware person! I am using Oracle VirtualBox (v 4.2.6 r82870) as a testbed for Wheezy Testing before upgrading my production linux computer. The software is installed on my 64 bit Dell Inspiron laptop with 8 GB of RAM running MS Win 7 Professional as the primary OS. With a couple of exceptions that I attribute to a less than complete understanding of the VirtualBox environment, Wheezy is performing well. It was with a fair amount of surprise that I discovered, entirely by chance, that according to KInfoCenter that the system is using only 4.47 GB of total physical memory!!! Googling 'Debian Wheezy 64 bit memory limitation' only turn up references to Squeezy and the Debian Handbook doesn't seem to address the issue. I would greatly appreciate being pointed to any sources of information about this issue. Thanks in advance.
FW: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation
Unfortunately, I didn't look at the addressees. -Original Message- From: Stephen P. Molnar [mailto:s.mol...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 11:16 AM To: 'Sven Hartge' Subject: RE: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation -Original Message- From: Sven Hartge [mailto:s...@svenhartge.de] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 10:27 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation Stephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.net wrote: It was with a fair amount of surprise that I discovered, entirely by chance, that according to KInfoCenter that the system is using only 4.47 GB of total physical memory!!! Please post the output of free and the output of dmesg | grep BIOS-e820. Those will provide more input for the list to be able to help you. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/09foke8jv...@mids.svenhartge.de Thanks for your reply. Here's what you asked, both a user and as su: computation@debian:~$ free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 497263613058803666756 0 86828 668240 -/+ buffers/cache: 5508124421824 Swap: 10236924 0 10236924 computation@debian:~$ dmesg | grep BIOS-e820 [0.00] BIOS-e820: - 0009fc00 (usable) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 0010 - dfff (usable) [0.00] BIOS-e820: dfff - e000 (ACPI data) [0.00] BIOS-e820: fffc - 0001 (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 0001 - 00015880 (usable) computation@debian:~$ su Password: root@debian:/home/computation# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 497263613102483662388 0 86868 675764 -/+ buffers/cache: 5476164425020 Swap: 10236924 0 10236924 root@debian:/home/computation# dmesg | grep BIOS-e820 [0.00] BIOS-e820: - 0009fc00 (usable) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 0010 - dfff (usable) [0.00] BIOS-e820: dfff - e000 (ACPI data) [0.00] BIOS-e820: fffc - 0001 (reserved) [0.00] BIOS-e820: 0001 - 00015880 (usable) Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/00c801ce022f$806e16e0$814a44a0$@mol...@sbcglobal.net
RE: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation
-Original Message- From: Claudius Hubig [mailto:debian_1...@chubig.net] Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 11:34 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: 64 bit Wheezy RAM Limitation Dear Stephen, please do not post HTML to the list[1]. Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I am using Oracle VirtualBox (v 4.2.6 r82870) as a testbed for Wheezy Testing before upgrading my production linux computer. The software is installed on my 64 bit Dell Inspiron laptop with 8 GB of RAM running MS Win 7 Professional as the primary OS. With a couple of exceptions that I attribute to a less than complete understanding of the VirtualBox environment, Wheezy is performing well. Are you running Wheezy _inside_ VirtualBox with Windows 7 as the host OS, or is this a dual-boot system? If the latter, wheezy should easily detect 8 GB and use them. In case of the former, you probably only allocated 4.7 GB to Wheezy in the VirtualBox configuration, hence the ‘computer’ Wheezy runs on only has 4.7 GB. Best, Claudius [1] as by #9 in the Code of Conduct for Debian mailing lists, http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- Please don’t CC me. Ah. That's the answer. Entirely my fault, I only allowed 5GB to the client. -- cl To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130203163330.0fe02...@ares.home.chubig.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/00c901ce022f$e0dc8570$a2959050$@mol...@sbcglobal.net
Problem Mounting USB Stick in Debian Wheezy
I am running Debian Wheezy on an Oracle VB on my Laptop and can't mount an USB Stick, although I have installed usbmount. The system is finding four USB devices: Logitech USB receiver (my wireless mouse) The USB Stick I mounted and two unknown US Devices I know that the stick is muntable because it mounts when I insert it in a USB port that's run Squeeze as a native OS. I have to conclude that the problme is with the virtual machine in which I am running Wheezy, but am very hesitant to mess around with VirtualBox as I really don't know what I'm doing. Help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e44f2c.3050...@sbcglobal.net
Installing R-2.15.2 in Debian Wheezy/Testing
The current version of R that is available in Wheezy is 2.15.1. However, version 2.15.2 is available at CRAN sites. The site I use is http://cran.case.edu/bin/linux/debian which states: 'If you want to have up to date R on wheezy I propose to directly install Dirks packages from unstable (sid) by creating a file /etc/apt/preferences containing Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 650 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 600 and adding a line for unstable in /etc/apt/sources.list.' I assume that the preference file should be in /etc/apt and not in /etc/apt/preferences.d My question is what should be the format of the line in the sources.lists? Thanks in advance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50e1f7b2.8070...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Installing a backported kernel on Squeeze at an early stage.
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 06:00:50 -0500 (EST), Lisi Reisz wrote: Happy New Year everyone! I have a problem which I know someone else had recently on the list and there was a (slightly complicated) solution. But I am not succeeding in finding the thread. PEBKAC, obviously, since I am sure that it is there. I want to install Squeeze on a box in/on which the on board network card is not recognised in Squeeze. The simple solution is just put a different network in the box temporarily while I install. But this box is for a present, it is black, it comes without spare blanking plates, and those already there have to be snapped out, and cannot be replaced. I am not keen to spoil the looks as it is a present. So could any kind soul point me at the relevant thread? It was fairly recent. I don't recall the thread to which you are referring, Lisi, but from the subject line it sounds like the standard squeeze kernel does not contain the necessary drivers you need for the built-in network card but a later kernel does. Is that right? Yet you want to install squeeze and not wheezy? I believe if it were me, I'd install wheezy, using the latest wheezy installer. wheezy is already in the frozen state, and will probably become the stable release in a couple of months anyway. My wife's computer, which until recently ran squeeze, recently had a problem. The version of iceweasel which comes with squeeze couldn't handle some upgrades that Yahoo made to their web mail interface. Fields were overlapping. It was apparently a bug in iceweasel or a new feature that the Yahoo site was exploiting that was not supported in the old version of iceweasel. I suppose that I could have installed a newer version of iceweasel from backports, but due to the age of squeeze, I decided to upgrade to wheezy. Problem solved. As an alternative, you might try a PCMCIA / PC card network adapter, if your computer has a slot for these devices, or perhaps a USB network adapter that squeeze supports. Installing squeeze with the wheezy installer might work, since the latest wheezy installer presumably uses a kernel that supports the built-in network adapter. But then, after installation, you will need to boot your system in rescue mode to install a backported kernel, and the procedure will be non-standard (i.e. wget and dpkg -i, probably). In short, I'd install wheezy if I were you. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/530238282.488344.1356789125073.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Gnome3 probe
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 07:27:47AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: phi debian wrote: Jeez, welcome lxde, adieu gnome3 !!! I installed a fresh debian in a guest as server, then apt-get install lxde. In a matter of minute I got a theme, with solid backgroud, my panel on the right, some usual goodies like synaptic, update-manager-gnome, So I know I will be able to move to this. snip I installed lxde also. Big surprise: it pulled in 286 packages! And I got yet another filemanager, network manager and a display manager that I neither need nor wanted. Is there a truly lightweight install of lxde? ---end quoted text--- Absolutely, install OpenBox sans LXDE. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121228152158.ga18...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Webcam Problem
Debian 64 bit Wheezy/sid in a VM on my Dell Laptop. I know that he webcam works in Linux. When I attempt to apply Camera default settings in Kamerka I get the message 'Could not connect to V4L device!' I have found http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo#Installing_proprietary_firmware but am not sure about implementing the instructions. I have found lspci -v | grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Also, comp@debian:~$ grep DRM_RADEON /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=m CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS=y comp@debian:~$ grep AGP /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 CONFIG_AGP=y CONFIG_AGP_AMD64=y CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y CONFIG_AGP_SIS=y CONFIG_AGP_VIA=y However, according to the HowTo CONFIG_AGP=y CONFIG_AGP_AMD64=y CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=m CONFIG_AGP_SIS=m CONFIG_AGP_VIA=m Question #1: Am I on the right track? Question #2: Is it safe to change settings from 'y' to 'm' in the config file? I'll be the first to admit that I don't have the faintest idea as to what I'm doing when it comes to hardware. Any assistance will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1354739132.2907.13.ca...@debian.att.net
KDE Taskbar Rearranges Itself on Boot
I am running Squeeze 6.0.6/KDE in a VM on my Laptop as a tested before upgrading my production computer. When I first install the KDE Desktop the Taskbar retains the arrangement that I make of the different icons. Unfortunately, as I use the Laptop for consulting that involves MS Win apps I have to open and close the Linux VM. Without warning the Taskbar rearranges the icons, even though the taskbar is locked. I would appreciate being pointed toward a solution to this problem. Thanks in advance.
Wheezy beta3 Screen Locked Problem
I am running Wheezy beta 3 in a VM on my 64 bit laptop with 32 bit apps enabled. I have encountered a strange (at least to me) problem in that only some apps are locked to the upper left hand corner of the monitor when they are opened. For example, the Chrome browser can be moved as can the Trashcan can be moved, while Synaptic is opened in the middle of the screen and can't be moved. Also, I had changed the number of desktops in the Workspaces app to t2o from the default four. When I booted into the desktop this morning, the number of windows was changed back to four (not by my doing) an he app was unresponsive to changing the number of desktops. Now, I realize that this is a beta distribution, but is there something I can do to correct this problem? Thanks in advance. Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1
FW: Wheezy beta3 Screen Locked Problem
Sorry, forget to add that I'm ruining xfce4 Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 From: Stephen P. Molnar [mailto:s.mol...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:18 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Wheezy beta3 Screen Locked Problem I am running Wheezy beta 3 in a VM on my 64 bit laptop with 32 bit apps enabled. I have encountered a strange (at least to me) problem in that only some apps are locked to the upper left hand corner of the monitor when they are opened. For example, the Chrome browser can be moved as can the Trashcan can be moved, while Synaptic is opened in the middle of the screen and can't be moved. Also, I had changed the number of desktops in the Workspaces app to t2o from the default four. When I booted into the desktop this morning, the number of windows was changed back to four (not by my doing) an he app was unresponsive to changing the number of desktops. Now, I realize that this is a beta distribution, but is there something I can do to correct this problem? Thanks in advance. Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1
Re: compiling (or rather, failing to compile) a kernel
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 05:16:29 -0500 (EST), Ralf Mardorf wrote: I remember one issue that occurred very often, in /lib/modules/KERNEL_VERSION the /build and /source links were missing or bad. ... build - /usr/src/linux-3.6.5-rt14 but correct would be linked against linux-headers-3.6.5-rt14. IIRC this was an issue for my latest Debian installs too. I've never encountered this. Or if I have, I've never noticed it or it never mattered. I've built out-of-kernel-source-tree modules in conjunction with a custom kernel (by using the modules_image target) and I've also been forced to deal with out-of-kernel-source-tree Debian module packages that aren't designed to work with kernel-package (by using the kernel_headers target and dkms), but in both cases I had no trouble building the modules. Remember, for cases where the module source package is designed to work with kernel-package, you don't need to build or install a headers package in order to build the modules. That's one of the qualities I like. I think it's stupid to require that the user build and install a headers package when the entire kernel source tree is already installed. A headers package is a subset of the source tree, is it not? So why build or install a headers package if the source tree is installed? -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1957485600.1086639.1352864372291.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: compiling (or rather, failing to compile) a kernel
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 13:06:31 -0500 (EST), Martin Steigerwald wrote: I found I misread references to 2.6.8. You raise an interesting point. Perhaps references to kernel-image vs. linux-image have outlived their usefulness by now. I will consider removing them in a future revision (and the references to 2.6.8 will disappear along with them). -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1717483459.1086707.1352864662370.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: compiling (or rather, failing to compile) a kernel
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 06:35:21 -0500 (EST), Lisi Reisz wrote: I have been trying to get to grips with compiling a custom kernel. I have been shying away for too long. I am following Stephen's marvellous work, and had got this far: http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm#Unpack But I get errors the end of which is below. I tried to copy and paste all the error reports that Konsole gave me, but could not manage it. Advice, please! Thanks, Lisi ... Hi, Lisi. My guess is that this is a permissions issue. Is your id a member of group src? (Issue the groups command and see if src is one of the groups listed in the output of the command.) Here is a summary of the permission environment that must exist before you attempt to unpack the source as a non-root user: (1) The directory /usr/src must be owned by user root and by group src. (2) The group (src) must have read, write, and execute permissions on /usr/src. (3) The group (src) must have the set group id permission on /usr/src. (4) Your non-root userid must be a member of group src. (5) The output of the groups command, when issued by your non-root userid, must list src as one of the groups. Please review the Introduction section of the document. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/375643185.1015443.1352557917697.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: compiling (or rather, failing to compile) a kernel
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:46:09 -0500 (EST), Martin Steigerwald wrote: On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 Lisi Reisz wrote: I have been trying to get to grips with compiling a custom kernel. I have been shying away for too long. I am following Stephen's marvellous work, and had got this far: http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm#Unpack This appears to be really old. The above document was last revised on August 4, 2012. I wouldn't classify that as really old. Perhaps you assumed that it is old because I recommend using kernel-package, rather than make deb-pkg or some other newer method. kernel-package has been around a while, yes. But I recommend it for what I consider to be good reasons, which are explained over time in the document. You are, of course, entitled to disagree with my opinion. But it's not old. I make an effort to keep it up to date, and suggestions are welcome. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/153650158.1022236.1352587520895.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Kernel documentation
On Sun, 21 Oct 2012 04:14:17 -0400 (EDT), Lisi wrote: quote We advise studying the README files in this root directory of the kernel source, and Documentation/Changes or the documentation index of the kernel in Documentation/00-INDEX. /quote Presumably I have to download a kernel source to get at the README, but where can I find the Documentation/00-INDEX? If I download an older kernel than the one that I am using, in oredr to read the README file, will GRUB continue to use the present newer kernel? I am still not very confident about editing GRUB 2. And yes, I have googled - and I'm afraid that I found the answers as clear as mud. :-( If all you want to do is to browse the Linux source code and you don't want to build a custom kernel, I recommend the following web site: http://lxr.linux.no You can browse the source of just about any kernel release online using this web site. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1872617213.603085.1350823856315.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Debian Wheezy Architecture
Debian 6.0.5 (64 bit)/KDE 4.4.5 I have just migrated to Debian and would like to implement Multiarch. According to the Debian Wiki it is present in dkpg since 1.16.2. However, the version in my installation is 1.15.8.3. When I try to update the Synaptic Package Manager I get some error messages that don't mean anything to me at this stage in my understanding (?). Here are the error messages: Ignoring file 'opera.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension Ignoring file 'opera.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension GPG error: http://cran.case.edu squeeze-cran/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 06F90DE5381BA480GPG error: http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org squeeze Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2 Failed to fetch http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org/dists/squeeze/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2) Failed to fetch http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org/dists/squeeze/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 Sub-process /bin/bzip2 returned an error code (2) Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. The /etc/apt/sources.lst is: # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20120512-14:34]/ squeeze contrib main # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20120512-14:34]/ squeeze contrib main deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate # for your mirror of choice. # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free main deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free main deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib deb-src http://cran.case.edu/bin/linux/debian squeeze-cran/ deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main deb http://www.deb.us.multimedia.org squeeze main non-free sources.list (END) What I really need is a pointer towards a really basic discussion of Synaptic an apt. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar. Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121018094619.1e86c...@debian.att.net
Debian 6.0.5 32 bit Library Required for 64 bit System
I am running the 64 bit 6.0.5, but need the 32 bit canberra-gtk-module. Where can I find it? Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1
Re: Debian 6.0.5 32 bit Library Required for 64 bit System
On 10/17/2012 02:14 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 10/17/2012 12:58 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On 10/17/2012 12:22 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 10/17/2012 10:20 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I am running the 64 bit 6.0.5, but need the 32 bit canberra-gtk-module. Where can I find it? Do you have ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk installed? Start by installing those. Then go to http://packages.debian.org/ and search for libcanberra-gtk-module, Thanks for your reply. I got libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb, but when I try the installation I get: root@debian:/home/computation/Downloads# dpkg -i libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb dpkg: error processing libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb (--install): package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64) Errors were encountered while processing: libcanberra-gtk-module_0.24-1_i386.deb Please advise, thanks. $man dpkg yields the command line options --force-architecture and --ignore-depends It is customary to use reply all or copy-paste the list address into the address line so that everyone on the list can get the benefits of the discussion. Mark Sorry about that. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/507f06ff.6010...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Permissions Problem
On 10/15/2012 09:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 08:46 -0400, Mark Neidorff wrote: user numbers I suspect the term should be user IDs. If I list my Debian from Arch Linux, it does look like that: [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ id uid=1000(spinymouse) gid=100(users) groups=100(users),7(lp),10(wheel),50(games),91(video),92(audio),93(optical),95(storage),96(scanner),98(power),108(vboxusers) [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ ls -l /run/media/spinymouse/avlinux/home total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root 29 4096 Apr 6 2012 music drwxr-xr-x 55 spinymouse 1000 4096 Sep 21 00:36 spinymouse Names become IDs. Regards, Ralf Here are some things I have managed to find: [ 15.162173] EXT4-fs (sde1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode [ 15.241250] EXT4-fs (sde2): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode It would seen that both partitions are found. root@debian:/sde2# l total 24 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Oct 15 11:57 Apps drwxr-xr-x 40 root root 4096 Oct 14 15:12 computation drwx-- 2 root root 16384 Sep 29 11:06 lost+found root@debian:/sde2/Apps# l total 12 drwxr-xr-x 4 computation computation 4096 Oct 15 11:40 ecce-v6.4 drwxr-xr-x 10 computation computation 4096 Sep 29 16:18 MGLTools-1.5.4 drwxr-xr-x 2 computation computation 4096 Sep 29 16:17 scratch It would seem that the installer has set permissions at computation computation, but: computation@debian:/sde2/Apps/ecce-v6.4/apps/scripts$ ./ecce bash: ./ecce: Permission denied I get the same response for every executable in the Apps directory. (the paths are set by the installer). Solutions to these problems will really be appreciated. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/507c358d.8050...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Reason to NOT install from online repositories
I used Debian Linux for a number of years. I recently got a new HP computer running Windows 7, which gave me minimal problems, aside from annoyances (Microrsoft is very good at being annoying.) Anyway, I expect to return to Linux very soon (not Debian, but Aptosid, since it's more up to date.) I have a high speed connection but I will be starting from a CD. Do you have any suggestions? --Stephen Mazurek On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Charles Kroeger ckro...@frankensteinface.com wrote: On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:50:02 +0200 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: Not all of us have convenient access to a high speed internet connection. Back in the day I used to download a version of Debian over a 56K modem (that rarely achieved those speeds) I used to set it to downloading around midnight and get up the next morning and it was usually finished or almost and if it had stopped in the night I just restarted at that point, but it did get done and the ISP didn't complain. Of course I don't know what kind of data transfer restrictions you may be subject to if any but patience is still free. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ae30ugfjqm...@mid.individual.net
Permissions Problem
Debian 6.0.5(64bit)/KDE4.4.5 I have a HD on my system, sdc1 which has root root ownership. I created a directory, Apps, to which I gave computation computation ownership (user). I can create a file in the Apps directory without any problems as the user. However, when I try to run an installer ./install_ecce.6.4.rehl5-gcc4.1.2-m64.csh get a Permission denied message. i should not that the same installer runs in the users (computation) subdirectory. The installer permission are set for an executable file, and cash has been installed on the system. I know enough about permissions to know that I'm missing something, but I don't know what it might be. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/507ad4f7.4040...@sbcglobal.net
Question about Users
Although I have been using Linux for a number of years now I have just migrated my systems to Debi an and I have a question about permissions. Every distribution that I have used in the past has assigned a User, for example 'computation'. in my case and has automatically put the User in a Group 'users'. I noticed that in Debian both the User and Group are the same, i.e., 'computation'. My question is why? Thanks in advance. Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1
Re: Question about Users
On 10/13/2012 11:07 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2012-10-13 at 10:36 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: Although I have been using Linux for a number of years now I have just migrated my systems to Debi an and I have a question about permissions. Every distribution that I have used in the past has assigned a User, for example 'computation'. in my case and has automatically put the User in a Group 'users'. I noticed that in Debian both the User and Group are the same, i.e., 'computation'. My question is why? Why not ;)? users: While Debian systems use the user group system by default (each user has their own group), some prefer to use a more traditional group system. In that system, each user is a member of the 'users' group. - http://wiki.gacq.com/index.php/Debian_default_system_groups_description It's your freedom to setup your Linux as needed. PolicyKit, su, sudo, groups and permissions etc.. Note, that groups with the same name, for different installs, could have different IDs. id -a does show you group names and IDs, valid only for the install you run id -a. You might have noticed that some groups are named abc on one install and if you list a directory from another install or live CD, the group names change to xyz. Regards, Ralf Thanks for the replies. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50799337.4020...@sbcglobal.net
HD Permissions Problem
Debian 6.0.5 (64 bit)/KDE 4.4.5 For reasons lost to antiquity, I have 4 HD's on my system. Unfortunately, the installer only found one of them, sda1, where the distribution is installed. Of course, other utilities found all of the drives and I have edited /etc/fstab and / to account for all of the drives. I have two problems for which I would like solutions: Problem #1. How do I give users on the system access to the drives? At this point only root has access privileges. Problem #2. One of the drives is formatted in the reisefs. The system doesn't recognize that fs. I suppose I could reformat the drive as ext3 or ext4, but I really don't want to lose the contents. Many thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5079957d.10...@sbcglobal.net
Several Installation Problems
83 Linux /dev/sde22612 60801 467411175 83 Linux Now, if I hadn't been gun shy before about modifying the OS before, I certainly am now. My second question is that I would like comments about how I think (dangerous that) I should edit fstab: The entries that are already there I would leave alone. I did check and there are entries in /dev for the other partitions on the HD's /dev/sdb1 /sdb1 ext3 defaults 0 2 /dev/sdc1 /sdc1 ext4 defaults 0 2 /dev/sdc2 /sdc2 ext4 defaults 0 2 /dev/sdd1 /sdd1 reiserfs defaults 0 2 /dev/sdd2 /sdd2 reiserfs defaults 0 2 /dev/sdd5 /sdd5 reiserfs defaults 0 2 /dev/sde1 /sde1 ext4 defaults 0 2 /dev/sde2 /sde2 ext4 defaults 0 2 I'm particularly not sure about the last two entries on each of the new lines. With apologies for my long windiness, I will appreciate the help that I'm sure that I'll be receiving. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50783789.8090...@sbcglobal.net
Shutdown Problem
Debian 6.0.6 (64 bit)/KDE 4.4.5 For some reason when I shutdown the system, either as a user or as root, the process hangs on: Currently running process (pstree): The only recourse I seem to have is to hit the reset button. Reinstalling psmisc did not solve the problem. Assistance in solving this problem will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5072e2b9.6000...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Screen Aspect Ratio
On 10/04/2012 06:17 AM, Sthu Deus wrote: Good time of the day, Stephen. You wrote: As a result of my stupidity in attempting to modify the screen drivers I have managed to change my display into something really ugly. The aspect ratio is off and the number of available fonts is really limited. (I also have OpenSUSE 12.2 on another HD and the screen is normal, leading me to conclude that the problem lies in Debian) I have switched to Debian and am wondering what display utilities are available? Google hasn't been on any help If You did some config. modifications by a normal user, then You can simply move all the user's home dir. content to another place and then relogin. If did that under root user, then You have to reconfigure those services, for example by simple removal of the config.s to safe place and restart the service, OR using debian package reconfigurator, or download from Internet its options OR reinstall the package having purged it previously. Sthu. I think that I have located the problem. The monitor resolution is set at 1280x1024 by Debian. Also there are only four solutions listed in System Settings/Size and Orientation. I have an OpenSUSE 12.2 installatopn on another hadr drive in the systen and it's resolution is 1680x1050 with eleven additional different resolutions. I had a screen resolution of 1680x1024 for the Debian desktop before I started trying to change the dcreen drivers. That's what I would like to get back, but don't have any idea how to accomplish this. I did look at the Synaptic Package Manager logs and removed the mistakes that I made and reinstalled the packages I'd removed, but that didn't correct the problem. I would assume that there may be a configuration file lurking somewhere that has to be edited, but I am leery of making any changes, as I clearly don't know what I'm doing. Any assistance will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50719597.4080...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Screen Aspect Ratio
On 10/07/2012 11:58 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On 10/07/2012 11:20 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 04/10/12 06:17 AM, Sthu Deus wrote: Good time of the day, Stephen. You wrote: As a result of my stupidity in attempting to modify the screen drivers I have managed to change my display into something really ugly. The aspect ratio is off and the number of available fonts is really limited. (I also have OpenSUSE 12.2 on another HD and the screen is normal, leading me to conclude that the problem lies in Debian) I have switched to Debian and am wondering what display utilities are available? Google hasn't been on any help If You did some config. modifications by a normal user, then You can simply move all the user's home dir. content to another place and then relogin. If did that under root user, then You have to reconfigure those services, for example by simple removal of the config.s to safe place and restart the service, OR using debian package reconfigurator, or download from Internet its options OR reinstall the package having purged it previously. Sthu. The main X configuration file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf. If you rename this, Debian/X will try to detect your display and adapter. You can also boot to a root prompt and try X -configure to produce an xorg.conf file to experiment with. If you are using proprietary drivers, they each have a configuration utility that should help. Sthu's suggestion of using the purge option with apt-get/aptitude is also worth trying. And there's the kernel mode setting driver to consider. If it's not set properly, you can get into all kinds of problems. You will also find a /etc/X11/fonts directory that may have been screwed up. If so, you could try renaming it then re-installing X. Thank you for your reply, I really appreciate it. There is no xorg.conf filer on the system. I opened a cosole as root and got: computation@debian:~$ su Password: root@debian:/home/computation# X -configure Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again. Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. Please advise. Again, thanks in advance. I wrote the above as little too fast. I just logged on to Debian as root and ran X -configure. Hereis the result: Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/lib/xorg/modules FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi FontPath /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi FontPath /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType FontPath built-ins EndSection Section Module Load extmod Load dri2 Load dbe Load glx Load dri Load record EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor #DisplaySize 470 300 # mm Identifier Monitor0 VendorName CMO ModelNameCMC 22 W HorizSync30.0 - 82.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option SWcursor# [bool] #Option HWcursor# [bool] #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option ShadowFB# [bool] #Option UseFBDev# [bool] #Option Rotate # [str] #Option VideoKey# i #Option FlatPanel # [bool] #Option FPDither# [bool] #Option CrtcNumber # i #Option FPScale # [bool] #Option FPTweak # i #Option DualHead# [bool] Identifier Card0 Driver nv VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName NV44 [GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)] BusID PCI:6:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 1
Screen Aspect Ratio
Debian 6.0.5 64 bit/KDE 4.4.5 As a result of my stupidity in attempting to modify the screen drivers I have managed to change my display into something really ugly. The aspect ratio is off and the number of available fonts is really limited. (I also have OpenSUSE 12.2 on another HD and the screen is normal, leading me to conclude that the problem lies in Debian) I have switched to Debian and am wondering what display utilities are available? Google hasn't been on any help Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/506c93c5.8050...@sbcglobal.net
Re: What is the procedure for patching the Debian kernel ?
On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 03:02:20 -0400 (EDT), Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 21:39:02 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote:
Note that when building a headers package you must run the entire
make-kpkg command under fakeroot: you can't use the --rootcmd fakeroot
option in this case.
I always run
make oldconfig
make-kpkg clean
make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd kernel-image kernel-headers
make-kpkg clean
dpkg -i ../linux-image-${KERNEL_UNAME}_${KERNEL_UNAME}-10.00.Custom_*.deb
dpkg -i ../linux-headers-${KERNEL_UNAME}_${KERNEL_UNAME}-10.00.Custom_*.deb
by a script. It does work, but I run the script as root, so I guess I
could remove --rootcmd fakeroot ;), OTOH I suspect I used those lines as
user, before I build kernels by scripts as root.
Yes, it does work as root, with or without the --rootcmd fakeroot option. ;-)
And it works as a non-root user too, if you leave off the kernel_headers
target. But I tested this specific scenario before I wrote what I wrote,
and the --rootcmd fakeroot option does not work with the kernel_headers
target if invoked by a non-root user. You must leave off the
--rootcmd fakeroot option (to avoid nested invocations of fakeroot) and
run the entire make-kpkg command under fakeroot if you use the kernel_headers
target.
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nVidia Chip Set
I have just installed Devian 6.0.6 (64bit) on my Linux platform and want to upgrade the nVidia drivers. I buildt the system five or six years ago and don't know which drivers to use. How can I determine the chip set? The KDE Info Center doesn't list video cards and the nVidia Grpahic Finder doesn't run in Linux. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5069e0e6.2000...@sbcglobal.net
Re: What is the procedure for patching the Debian kernel ?
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 18:17:36 -0400 (EDT), Xelsior wrote: So, interesting document. I actually found an RT kernel in the repository ... the one linked from here - http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia#Realtime_kernel However that does not have the patches applied to usb/audio for the Electrix Ebox44. It also does not have ... CONFIG_HZ_1000=y CONFIG_HZ=1000 Is there a SIMPLE procedure here to build this kernel image (or the stock one that downloads the rt patch in a separate archive). All I need to do is build everything as it is out of the box ACCEPT for a couple of patches to usb/audio AND the two config options. Of course the revision string must be right otherwise there are conflicts with linux-headers and DKMS. Building a custom kernel is not a simple procedure. Period. Of course, the more changes you make, the more complicated the procedure is. But even making a simple change involves doing a lot of things. If you have out-of-kernel-source-tree modules you need to build, and there is no Debian source package for it that is designed to work with kernel-package, then you will probably need to build custom headers, as well as a custom kernel. The document to which I referred explains how to do this, but the short answer is to use the kernel_headers target in addition to the kernel_image target. For example: fakeroot make-kpkg ... kernel_image kernel_headers Note that when building a headers package you must run the entire make-kpkg command under fakeroot: you can't use the --rootcmd fakeroot option in this case. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/925925381.194221.1349055542693.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: What is the procedure for patching the Debian kernel ?
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:09:46 -0400 (EDT), Xelsior wrote: ... I did start to apply the extra patches to the Debian kernel another way as test-patches is not recommended if you are making config changes (following http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html#s4.2.3 ). ... Then did fakeroot debian/rules source. Then fakeroot make -f debian/rules.gen binary-arch_i386_rt_686-pae (how do I do this with multiple CPU cores?). However this did not actually patch the correct files in the debian/source directory. What is the procedure to correctly apply my patches ... Any help appreciated. I'm not sure if this will help or not, but you might want to take a look at http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm It might answer some of your questions. The above is an unofficial kernel building web page which does talk about applying patches, using multiple CPUs, etc. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1758089097.179265.1348953552532.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Library Problem
Although I have used linux since before the RedHat Mother's Day release I am not an OS type person. I have just installed the 64 bit Debian 6.05 and am encountering problems which I am reasonably sure are due to library problems. The error message that I get for a number of applications, most recently Opera, is: Gtk-Message: Failed to load module canberra-gtk-module: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 I presume that the error message means that there is a missing 32 bit library on my 64 bit system. Now the problem is that I don't know how to add a 32 bit library to 64 bit system using apt-get. My /etc/apt/sources.list is: # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20120512-14:34]/ squeeze contrib main # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20120512-14:34]/ squeeze contrib main deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate # for your mirror of choice. # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free main deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free main deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib deb http://cran.case.edu/bin/linux/debian squeeze-cran/ what do I add to access 32 bit files: Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for ChemistryStochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5062f54c.7010...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications
On Thursday 13 September 2012 10:10:58 Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:20:14 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: (...) MGLTools installs without any problems,but when I try to run I get: (...) GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil is not present (...) What's the emulated graphic card? Anyway, VirtualBox VGA 3D capabilities are rather limited and the application you are trying to run seems to make an extensive usage of the VGA capabilities. Are you sure VirtualBox is listed as supported scennario for this software? The PyRx instalation process gives me: computation@debian:~/Applications$ ./PyRx-0.9-Linux-x86-Install invalid command name bind (...) Check if these forum thread posts help: http://mgl.scripps.edu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25t=1066 Greetings, Thanks for your note. As a matter of fact, these are not 3D applications. I've run both on other linux OS's. Google turned out to be my friend and I installed the 32 bit libraries with apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk. Having accomplished that I installed PyRx successfully and it now runs on my 64 bit Debian system. Unfortunately, the problem with MGLTools still exists: computation@debian:~/Applications/MGLTools-1.5.4/bin$ ./adt setting PYTHONHOME environment Run AutoDockTools from /home/computation/Applications/MGLTools-1.5.4/MGLToolsPckgs/AutoDockTools Resource file used to customize PMV: /home/computation/.mgltools/1.5.4/Pmv/_pmvrc opengl extension GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil is not present X Error of failed request: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id in failed request: 0x5e00032 Serial number of failed request: 4435 There is obviously something missing. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariant www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209131342.34378.s.mol...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications
On Thursday 13 September 2012 13:53:05 Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:42:34 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On Thursday 13 September 2012 10:10:58 Camaleón wrote: The PyRx instalation process gives me: computation@debian:~/Applications$ ./PyRx-0.9-Linux-x86-Install invalid command name bind (...) Check if these forum thread posts help: http://mgl.scripps.edu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25t=1066 Thanks for your note. As a matter of fact, these are not 3D applications. I've run both on other linux OS's. Google turned out to be my friend and I installed the 32 bit libraries with apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk. Having accomplished that I installed PyRx successfully and it now runs on my 64 bit Debian system. Glad it worked :-) Unfortunately, the problem with MGLTools still exists: computation@debian:~/Applications/MGLTools-1.5.4/bin$ ./adt setting PYTHONHOME environment Run AutoDockTools from /home/computation/Applications/MGLTools-1.5.4/MGLToolsPckgs/ AutoDockTools Resource file used to customize PMV: /home/computation/.mgltools/1.5.4/Pmv/_pmvrc opengl extension GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil is not present X Error of failed request: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id in failed request: 0x5e00032 Serial number of failed request: 4435 There is obviously something missing. Yes, most sure the required OpenGL extension. Run glxinfo | grep -i gl_ext_packed and look if it is there. Greetings, Glxinfo was a good suggestion. Unfortunately, it didn't work. I think it comes down to which library contains the missing link? Also, it may b e a 32 bit application. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariant www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209131445.30298.s.mol...@sbcglobal.net
Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 02:36:08 -0400 (EDT), Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012, 21:56:44, Stephen Powell wrote: So why does aplay fail? It's a mystery to me! Please post the output of 'aplay -l' and 'aplay -L'. OK, here it is: $ aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 0: ca0106 [CA0106] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 1: ca0106 [CA0106] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 2: ca0106 [CA0106] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: CA0106 [CA0106], device 3: ca0106 [CA0106] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 $ aplay -L default Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server sysdefault:CARD=CA0106 CA0106, CA0106 Default Audio Device front:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 Front speakers rear:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 Rear speakers center_lfe:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 Center and Subwoofer speakers side:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 Side speakers surround40:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround71:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers iec958:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output steve@smp4:~$ steve@smp4:~$ aplay -L default Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server sysdefault:CARD=CA0106 CA0106, CA0106 Default Audio Device front:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 Front speakers rear:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 Rear speakers center_lfe:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 Center and Subwoofer speakers side:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 Side speakers surround40:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround71:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers iec958:CARD=CA0106,DEV=0 CA0106, CA0106 IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output Since ALSA is the driver level pulseaudio has to coexist with it ;) Yes, but I mean coexist in the sense that applications that want to use ALSA can do so and will work; and applications that want to use pulseaudio will work too. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1761787353.1052171.1347586774228.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications
I am in the midst of changing distributions for reasons that aren't really germane to this note. I have installed Debian-6.0.5-amd64 on my Dell Inspiron Laptop in VM VirtualBox 4.1.22. I am having problems installing/running two applications: MGLTools-1.5.4-Linux-86_64-install and PyRx-Linux-x68-Install (both are available from www.scripps.edu). MGLTools installs without any problems,but when I try to run I get: computation@debian:~/Applications/MGLTools-1.5.4/bin$ ./adt setting PYTHONHOME environment Run AutoDockTools from /home/computation/Applications/MGLTools-1.5.4/MGLToolsPckgs/AutoDockTools Welcome to Python Molecule Viewer! Visit http://mgltools.scripps.edu/documentation to read latest documentation. Resource file used to customize PMV: /home/computation/.mgltools/1.5.4/Pmv/_pmvrc opengl extension GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil is not present X Error of failed request: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id in failed request: 0x6200032 Serial number of failed request: 4436 Current serial number in output stream: 4436 The PyRx instalation process gives me: computation@debian:~/Applications$ ./PyRx-0.9-Linux-x86-Install invalid command name bind while executing ::unknown bind Text Tab (uplevel body line 1) invoked from within uplevel 1 $next $args (procedure ::obj::Unknown line 3) invoked from within bind Text Tab (procedure ::InstallJammer::InitializeGui line 19) invoked from within ::InstallJammer::InitializeGui (procedure ::InstallJammer::InitInstall line 63) invoked from within ::InstallJammer::InitInstall (file /installkitvfs/main.tcl line 38527) I think that I know enough to realize that there are missing libraries. However, while I have been a linux user for a number of years now, I am not an OS type of individual and have no idea what I need to install to get these applications to run on Debian. Any assistance will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariant www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209121220.14230.s.mol...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications
On Wednesday 12 September 2012 14:17:45 lee wrote: Stephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.net writes: opengl extension GL_EXT_packed_depth_stencil is not present This makes me think that you need another driver for the graphics card which supports the required extension. OK, that makes sense, except which one(s)? My laptop has: Adapter TypeIntel(R) HD Graphics Family, Intel Corporation compatible Driver Version 8.15.10.2455 Installed Drivers igdumd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igdumdx32,igd10umd32,igd10umd32 which are, of course, for MS Win 7. Now, please keep in mind that I know absolutely nothing about hardware! Will installing additional drivers mess up the system? -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariant www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209121547.10838.s.mol...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications
On Wednesday 12 September 2012 16:52:06 Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 12 sep 12, 15:47:10, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: which are, of course, for MS Win 7. Now, please keep in mind that I know absolutely nothing about hardware! Will installing additional drivers mess up the system? Make sure you have the guest additions installed. Kind regards, Andrei Thank you for your note. Indeed, I do have the guest additions installed. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariant www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209121845.28292.s.mol...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Missing Files Prevent Installation/Execution of Applications
On Wednesday 12 September 2012 19:04:55 Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-09-12 at 18:45 -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On Wednesday 12 September 2012 16:52:06 Andrei POPESCU wrote: Make sure you have the guest additions installed. Thank you for your note. Indeed, I do have the guest additions installed. You've got VirtualBox 4.1.22, the current version installed. Do the guest additions fit to this version? Perhaps you started with an older version of VBox, upgraded VBox, but not the guest additions. Does the extension pack fit to this version? Maybe the extension pack has got no impact to the trouble, I don't know. The entire VirtualBox installation, including the guest additions are up to date. I'm afraid that I don't see what this has to do with missing libraries. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. Life is a fuzzy set Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariant www.FoundationForChemistry.com (614)312-7528 (c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209122028.25997.s.mol...@sbcglobal.net
Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:56:15 -0400 (EDT), Weaver wrote: Could it be something as simple as alsactl init as root? I just tried that. Here's what I got: alsactl: parse:1655: Unable to open file '/usr/share/alsa/init/ca0106': No such file or directory -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2000114673.1002148.1347414516527.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:10:01 -0400 (EDT), Andrei Popescu wrote: What does speaker-test -c2 -t wav do (both as user and root)? It works! Both as root and as a normal user. Amazing! So why does aplay fail? It's a mystery to me! Assuming you really want to keep Gnome there are several workarounds for that: - just remove the gnome-core metapackage and keep all other dependencies - equivs (either build a replacement metapackage or a replacement dependency) - dpkg --force-depends As much as I dislike pulseaudio (I wish everyone would use alsa), it is evident that this is the future direction of Debian; so I would like to find a way for pulseaudio and alsa to peacefully coexist if possible. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/890188400.1002377.1347415004008.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: No sound when attempting to play an audio CD
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:55:36 -0400 (EDT), Brian wrote: I use the first method with cdtool. Let's get the obvious out of the way. You're in the cdrom and audio groups. The cable is connected correctly and securely. The speakers are connected correctly to the output of the sound card. I can confirm that my userid is in the cdrom and audio groups. I haven't checked the cable connections yet, but I plan to do that tomorrow. But the problem seems to be more systemic. I can't seem to get aplay to work on a .wav file. It runs, and it generates messages on the screen, but no sound. Pulseaudio isn't on my system but isn't it a daemon? Wouldn't stopping it allow you to eliminate it as a cause? pulseaudio is a depends (not a recommends) dependency of gnome-core; so I can't de-install it. As for killing the daemon, gnome automatically re-spawns pulseaudio if I kill the daemon. I have to stop gnome. But even then, no output from playing audio CDs and no output from aplay. Yet, gnome can generate sounds. Maddening. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/610605441.980598.1347329586948.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Why is Nautilus using 38% CPU?
On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 12:55:06PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: massive snip sorry, I posted a message without any content by accident. I noticed that tracker is doing a lot as well. Is it advisable to disable it? I like Nautilus and use it as a file manager, however don't use it to manage my desktop. It uses minimal memory when used this way from my experience. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120908125758.ga5...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Getting 3D graphics support out of my ATI Rage XL video chip?
Hello, list. I've recently installed Debian Wheezy on a new (to me) computer with an ATI Rage XL video chip. Here is an excerpt from the output of lspci -nn -vv. (Line wraps have been inserted to keep well within the customary 80-column limit.) 05:03.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Rage XL [1002:4752] (rev 27) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) The X server auto-selects the ati driver, which in turn selects the mach64 driver. the mach64 driver identifies the card in /var/log/Xorg.0.log as ... ATI 3D Rage XL or XC graphics controller detected Chip type 4752 GR, version 7, foundry TSMC, class 0, revision 0x00 So the chip does have 3D capabilities. But when the X server attempts to activate 3D acceleration, I get the following error: [drm] failed to load kernel module mach64 and the driver reverts to 2D acceleration only. I've done quite a bit of internet searching this morning, and it appears that it is, at least in theory, possible to enable 3D acceleration; but it is not a trivial task. Here's one link that I've found: http://www.allquests.com/question/1501572-4/HOWTO-enable-3d-acceleration-w-Rage-Mobility-mach64.html But this involves manual compilation and not using Debian packages. From other search results, it appears that there was at one time a Debian package called drm-modules-source, which existed in experimental back in the days of Lenny, but this package appears to have disappeared. Before I get knee-deep in this, I thought I'd ask the list if there's a better way. Does anyone have any experience with this? Is there a Debian package I can use? -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/763882931.937240.1347117233298.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Getting 3D graphics support out of my ATI Rage XL video chip?
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 12:24:00 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote: ... the VGA chipset is about 8 years (or so) old so don't expect astonishing results :-) I said the computer was new TO ME. I never said it was NEW. This is a server machine literally thrown away by a business. But it is now the most capable machine that I own. And you need 3D acceleration because...? I don't NEED it, I just WANT it. I want it mainly because I want to run GNOME 3. GNOME 3 initializes in fallback mode if the graphics chip does not support 3D acceleration, it seems. I will add this one: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting I can't seem to connect to the site right now. I get a 503 Service Unavailable. I'll try again later. I wonder why people is so reluctant about installing packages from the outside when this involves upstream projects which are well-known and trustworthy :-? It's not a trust issue. I just prefer to stick to Debian packages because they are likely to be better integrated with the Debian maintenance procedures. For example, when using Nvidia drivers I much prefer to stick to Debian packages rather than download stuff directly from Nvidia because applying system maintenance is much less likely to break the driver if I use Debian packages. There exists this package but not sure if it's for the same purpose :-? http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/xserver-xorg-video-mach64 No, that is a binary user-space X driver, which is what the X server is using now. The package I was referring to apparently contained the source code for the mach64 kernel module, among other things. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/824493517.940834.1347135557967.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Getting 3D graphics support out of my ATI Rage XL video chip?
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 13:18:43 -0400 (EDT), Martin Steigerwald wrote: Is that chip on a graphics card? No, it is built into the motherboard. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/352381209.940904.1347135973382.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [SOLVED] Is my processor 32-bit or 64-bit?
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:35:36 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: Stephen, most PC IO plates are removable, have been for well over 15 years. Once you remove the motherboard you simply stick your thumb on the interior side of the IO panel and pop it out the back. New mobos come with their own panel. They just pop in. They friction fit, having little nubs the size of a pin head, usually 2 on each side. You install it gently, pushing only on the outside edges until all the nubs have snapped in. Push in the middle and you may destroy it. they're pretty flimsy. That's good to know. Thanks. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/869328987.788493.1346446652586.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [SOLVED] Is my processor 32-bit or 64-bit?
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 04:04:20 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: Stephen Powell wrote: By the way, there's something I don't understand. A 32-bit processor can only access 4G of real (extended) memory, right? So why are there motherboards available for 32-bit processors that support installing more than 4G of RAM? What good is memory that the processor can't address? The processor can address up to 64GB using PAE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension That explains it. Thanks. Thanks also to the other members of the list who responded regarding PAE. ... Note I used the word mainframe. All of this unique technology and scalability Unisys brought to x86, MS Windows and, to a lesser degree, Linux, was directly derived from Unisys' ClearPath mainframe technology, where such features had been common for years, as well as on IBM, Fujitsu, and other mainframes. ... I work on IBM mainframes as my day job. 32-bit IBM mainframes have a 2 GB address limit. (That's because, although the registers for manipulating binary integer numbers are 32-bits wide, the address bus has only 31 address lines.) Physical memory in excess of 2 GB could be installed though. You could use the extra memory in two ways. (1) IBM provides virtual-machine-level virtualization built-in to the hardware microcode, known as PR/SM (Processor Resource / System Manager). This can create what are known as LPARs (Logical PARtitions). You can divide up the physical memory between LPARs, so that each LPAR does not exceed 2G. (2) You can configure some of the memory, either in basic mode or in LPAR mode, as expanded memory. (Think back to the expanded memory boards in the days of DOS.) This in known in IBM lingo as XSTORE memory as opposed to CSTORE memory. Some IBM mainframe operating systems, such as VM, can use XSTORE memory as a high-speed paging device. Then, some applications, such as DB2, can use hyperspaces or VM data spaces as ways to exploit memory above 2 GB. I was aware of these techniques in the mainframe world to exploit memory above 2 GB, but I'm much less familiar with the world of PC CPUs. BTW, IBM's 64-bit machines no longer offer a basic mode. LPAR mode is required on all 64-bit machines, AFAIK. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1943825377.705792.1346163449270.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [SOLVED] Is my processor 32-bit or 64-bit?
On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 09:48:27 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: What I meant was that I may buy the new mobo, processor, and RAM that you suggested and put it in this second machine I'm talking about. Well, I've looked into it, and that's not going to work. The mobo you suggested has stuff on it for which there are no connector holes on the back of the case. The built-in connector holes on the back of the case support A/C power (of course), PS/2 mouse, PS/2 keyboard (small-size PS/2 connectors in both cases), 2 USB ports, 2 serial ports, and one parallel port. In addition, there are knock-out plugs for what looks like a joystick/MIDI port and what looks like line-in, line-out, and microphone connectors for on-board sound. I would have to knock out the metal plugs, but at least the case can handle a mobo with on-board sound. But there are no connector holes for VGA output, DVI output, or an Ethernet jack for a network connection, nor are there knock-out plugs for the same. The power supply connector to the mobo is a 20-pin connector. The case is just not designed to handle modern mobos. I can't even identify the mobo. With no RAM, the BIOS won't initialize. It just beeps at me (about 1 second on and 1 second off). So the BIOS won't tell me what the mobo is. I searched in vain for some form of identification on the mobo silk screen itself, but all I could find was Made in China. Therefore, I don't know what kind of memory it needs. I'm afraid this other system is going to be good for nothing except possibly to be cannibalized for parts. A clue to its age: it has a couple of ISA (or possibly EISA) bus slots on it, in addition to PCI bus slots. And the video card appears to be VESA local bus. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/253085795.713939.1346184701634.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [SOLVED] Is my processor 32-bit or 64-bit?
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 01:42:54 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: Stephen Powell wrote: I know enough to be dangerous, but not always enough to be competent. That's why I opened this thread in the first place. In this case the solution is as simple as downloading and reading the manual for your board: http://ph.academicdirect.ro/ISB_SE7500CW2.pdf The memory specs are on page 17. Stan, you are a wealth of information. I didn't search for the motherboard manual because, for some reason, I didn't think they were published online. Maybe I did an extensive search in the past for a motherboard or chipset manual and found nothing; so I already had it in my head that such things weren't available. But in this case I am happy to be proved wrong. By the way, there's something I don't understand. A 32-bit processor can only access 4G of real (extended) memory, right? So why are there motherboards available for 32-bit processors that support installing more than 4G of RAM? What good is memory that the processor can't address? -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/619145302.692624.1346109143744.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [SOLVED] Is my processor 32-bit or 64-bit?
On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 23:44:50 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: Search for GeForce 6150. That's the integrated GPU. Wikipedia tells you this. My mistake. I thought MCP61 was the chipset name. The Wikipedia article I found also indicated that MCP61 ... introduced a bug in the SATA NCQ implementation. As a result, Nvidia employees have contributed code to disable NCQ operations under Linux. But I have no idea what that means, or whether or not it would be relevant in my case. If you need parts for old systems, you simply can't be Ebay. Just about anything you could need is available, and usually really cheap. The older the tech the cheaper. The opposite is normally true when buying from computer retailers. In this case the older it is the more they want for it, if they even have it or can get it. They treat such parts as collectable antique furniture, price wise. What I meant was that I may buy the new mobo, processor, and RAM that you suggested and put it in this second machine I'm talking about. But yes, that's true about E-bay (and other sites too). But the key is you simply *must* know *exactly* what you want/need. Retail vendors, such as oempcworld.com, usually have a web site where you can identify your system somehow and then they will tell *you* what you need (or at least what they recommend). On E-bay, it's, I have this for sale. Do you want it or not? And often, for me, the answer is, I'm not sure. If I buy the wrong thing, and that has happened before, I'm usually out the money and stuck with something I can't use. The terms are often all sales final. I simply am not a hardware expert. I know enough to be dangerous, but not always enough to be competent. That's why I opened this thread in the first place. I went ahead and bought that lot of 14 DIMMs from E-bay; but without your assurances that it would work in my system, I would not have had enough confidence to buy it. Thanks for your help. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1330577568.661637.1345988907614.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [SOLVED] Is my processor 32-bit or 64-bit?
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 05:45:23 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 8/23/2012 7:28 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: Hmm. I'm not even sure if this is the right kind of memory. It is. OK, if you say so. I guess oempcworld.com is trying to sell me faster memory than I really need. I was confused by PC1600 vs PC2100. Under the photo: Actual item may differ. That photo shows a standard 184 pin non ECC desktop DIMM. Right. I understand they used a generic picture. The nVidia MCP61 SB+GPU single chip chipset on this board hit the market in late 2006 and has been out of production for at least 2 years, boards using it out of production for a year. Units still in the channel are simply those that haven't sold. This is the reason this is the cheapest socket AM3 board Newegg offers. Sometimes you forget you and I think alot alike. I'd never recommend anything bleeding edge to you Stephen. I could find no evidence of support for this chip in the Debian package descriptions (on-line web pages) for nvidia-kernel-source, nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-source, or nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx-source for the Squeeze release. I could not find MCP61 anywhere. Of course, the nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-source package exists only in Sid because of build problems. It doesn't work with any release past Lenny. But I searched it too, just for grins, and couldn't find MCP61 on that web page either. By the way, that brings up a pet peeve of mine. I should probably open another thread for it. The Wheezy versions of the above Debian packages (i.e. the on-line web pages which describe them) have *no* description of which chipsets they support. How is one supposed to know which package one needs if one is running Wheezy? The 2D chip is too slow. If you want to use a GUI desktop and a modern browser, visit modern complex websites, play flash videos etc, this system won't be very snappy. That depends on one's level of expectations. I'm currently using a 1 GHz single core, single thread, 32-bit processor and only 512M of RAM. The video driver is nouveau, and for this chipset, it apparently does not support 3D acceleration. So, believe it or not, I expect that the built- in Intel video will be an improvement over what I've got now. If not, installing a separate video card is always an option. You'll also likely need to add a sound card. Actually, no. There is no built-in sound chip on the mobo, but there is a sound card installed in an expansion slot. Apparently, the previous owner was using it as a desktop system, even though it was originally intended as a server. Now, if you plan to use it as a headless server, spend the $50 on the memory and use it as is. Should be fine for some light duty stuff. Actually, I just might do both. I have another computer that someone gave to me that has no RAM at all on it. Apparently the previous owner removed the RAM from the old computer in order to use it in his new computer before he gave me the old computer. Maybe I'll just replace the mobo in it. I need to do more research first though. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/671039830.648449.1345905257815.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [SOLVED] Is my processor 32-bit or 64-bit?
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:37:17 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 8/24/2012 6:54 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: OK, now we're getting somewhere. There is an eight-pin connector coming from the power supply that plugs directly into the motherboard, in addition to a 24-pin connector coming from the power supply which also plugs directly into the motherboard. Yes, I covered this is some detail in a section you snipped. ;) Actually, I think the information to which you refer was not something that I snipped, but rather something which was in another post, one that I accidentally deleted and had not read at the time I wrote the above. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/934720309.648628.1345905631444.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [SOLVED] Is my processor 32-bit or 64-bit?
On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 06:16:12 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: Stephen Powell wrote: I don't see the 4-pin CPU power plug to which you refer coming out of the power supply. (Yes, I finally broke down and took the cover off.) Of course, it does have several spare 4-pin power connectors designed for peripherals, such as hard disks, CD-ROM drives, etc. But I suspect you are referring to something smaller. ... The new 8 pin aux standard provides 4 +12V leads and 4 grounds. ... OK, now we're getting somewhere. There is an eight-pin connector coming from the power supply that plugs directly into the motherboard, in addition to a 24-pin connector coming from the power supply which also plugs directly into the motherboard. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1911564965.627983.1345809241358.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [SOLVED] Is my processor 32-bit or 64-bit?
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 03:07:49 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: Stephen Powell wrote: Now, my next step is to figure out what memory SIMMs to order. I'd like to install four 1G SIMMs, if they exist for this motherboard. But the devil is in the details. DIMMs not SIMMs. ;) SIMMs haven't been used in new systems for about 15 years. Right. They are Dual In-line Memory Modules, not Single In-line Memory Modules. Old habits die hard. You probably won't find that registered ECC DDR200 through retail channels because of its age. If you do it'll likely be $100+/stick. Here's the best deal I found on Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-14-PC1600-DDR-200-Registered-ECC-1GB-Server-Memory-Micron-Samsung-/130718246446?pt=US_Memory_RAM_hash=item1e6f6a262e Hmm. I'm not even sure if this is the right kind of memory. Plus, I only need 4. What would I do with the other 10? I went to the web site of an outfit I've dealt with before, http://www.oempcworld.com, and I found a way to specify my system by entering the motherboard number. I told it I had an Intel SE7500CW2. Here's the page it took me to: http://www.oempcworld.com/configurator/configurator.php?mch=SE7500CW2mfr=Intelmdn=SE7500+Mainboard+Series They are charging about $30 per DIMM, so four of them would be about $120. $50 for old RAM or $110 few all new guts? $110 gets you a new Foxconn AM3 mobo, 2.8GHz 1MB L2 64bit 45 watt single core AMD retail CPU, and 4GB DDR3-1333 dual channel RAM-- 6.6x the memory bandwidth of the Netburst Xeon. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103888 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186189 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148541 I've used this combo to refurb 2 old machines now, including the machine from which I've typing this. No problems so far with exactly one year on this one. I've got a dual core Regor 3GHz 2x1MB L2 in this box. If a single core 2.8 64bit Sempron is insufficient for your workload, add $25 for a 65 watt 3.2GHz dual core AthlonII X2, $135 total: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103873 Hmm. That's worth mulling over. But I generally like to get hardware when it's at least 3 or 4 years old. That way, I can usually run Debian stable and have all the device drivers work with no problems. I worry particularly about the mobo with an on-board bleeding edge Nvidia video chipset. This thing is about 10 years old, but since it was originally intended to be used as a high-end server, it should make a decent desktop system even today. As long as the PSU has the 4-pin CPU power plug, and it should being a Xeon board, you shouldn't need to replace anything else. And you've basically got a brand new system, sans drives, for $110-135. I don't see the 4-pin CPU power plug to which you refer coming out of the power supply. (Yes, I finally broke down and took the cover off.) Of course, it does have several spare 4-pin power connectors designed for peripherals, such as hard disks, CD-ROM drives, etc. But I suspect you are referring to something smaller. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2073239832.67.1345768094127.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:08:33AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Ter, 21 Ago 2012, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I used sarcasm, but using sarcasm is bad behavior. And I'm not proud when I misbehave. The problem is that it is not the first time you misbehave. Nor the second, or even third. Not to mention the times where you don't actually say anything particularly offensive, but use this list as a personal space to rant about anything you don't like. +100 I'm a lurker mostly but have been here a long time; your assessment seems quite accurate from where I sit. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120822121418.ga13...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: [SOLVED] Is my processor 32-bit or 64-bit?
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 04:41:26 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 8/21/2012 9:04 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: Stan, Stan, the hardware man! I knew you'd know! Where did you find the information that correlates CPUIDs with processor characteristics? Simplicity. Google CPUID 0F27. First hit is: http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SL6YH.html That tells us 0F27 is the Northwood core. I don't suppose you'd have a URL handy, now would you? Next time, I can check myself and not have to bother the list. Once we have the above info, Wikipedia tells us the Northwood chips were all 130nm, and that EM64T wasn't introduced until the 90nm series. The 2.4GHz/512KB/400MHz Prestonia CPUID 0F27 was released in April 2002. Nacona (90nm) with EM64T was introduced over two years later, in June 2004. Hmm. Well, it appears that CPUIDs are not unique. I've done some more research, and it appears that CPUID is just one more piece of evidence, which must be considered along with all the other known characteristics, in order to figure out what one has. One other piece of evidence that I needed, but did not tell the list, is that the chipset is the Intel 7500 chipset, which means that the effective bus speed is 400 MHz. (The actual bus speed is 100 MHz, but the processor operates at Quad bus speed, making the effective bus speed 400 MHz.) The CPU World web site which you pointed me to was very helpful though. After some more research, I believe that this is the right web page (watch out for a wrapped URL): http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon%202.4%20GHz%20-%20RN80532KC056512%20%28BX80532KC2400D%20-%20BX80532KC2400DU%29.html The CPUID of 0F27h means that the S-spec number is either QML8, SL6EP, or SL6K2. QML8 is unlikely, since this is a Quality Sample. The bottom line: it is most definitely a 32-bit CPU. It does have 2 hyperthreads; so a Linux kernel with SMP enabled will see 2 logical processors. Now, my next step is to figure out what memory SIMMs to order. I'd like to install four 1G SIMMs, if they exist for this motherboard. But the devil is in the details. During POST, when the RAM is being tested, the following appears on the screen: SE7500CW20.86B.0034.P17.0522031027 Maybe that means something to you? -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/166902331.603426.1345689479917.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
[SOLVED] Is my processor 32-bit or 64-bit?
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:18:52 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: Yep. CPUID 0F27 makes this CPU a Prestonia Xeon, 130nm, in essence a Northwood P4, the only difference being the model#, CPUID, and branding. Intel introduced EM64T (x86-64) with the 90nm chips. This CPU is 32bit x86 only. Stan, Stan, the hardware man! I knew you'd know! Where did you find the information that correlates CPUIDs with processor characteristics? I don't suppose you'd have a URL handy, now would you? Next time, I can check myself and not have to bother the list. Thanks to all who responded. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1357692593.580894.1345601046019.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Is my processor 32-bit or 64-bit?
Several years ago a friend, who owns his own business, gave me one of his old servers because he knows that computers are my hobby. It's been sitting around my basement since then, but it has finally worked its way to the top of my to do list. I just fired it up for the first time yesterday. Basically, I am trying to determine if this is a 64-bit- capable machine or not, and I can't tell. Here's what the BIOS setup program reports for the CPU: Boot Strap Processor Installed Speed: 2.40 GHz Socket Name: BSP Manufacturer:GenuineIntel Version: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPUID: 0F27 L2 Cache:512 KB I consulted Wikipedia's web page on Intel Processors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_microprocessors), but was unable to find a processor in the list which met all the criteria (Xeon in the name, speed, and L2 cache). The machine has a Phoenix BIOS, version 1.28, dated 05/22/2003. That may help narrow things down. (For example, it is unlikely that a processor introduced in 2008 would be given a BIOS dated in 2003.) Any ideas? Oh, one other thing. Hyper-Threading was enabled in the BIOS, suggesting that, as viewed by an operating system, the machine has at least two CPUs. But that may not be 100% reliable. The machine has 1 GB of RAM installed. (Two 512M SIMMs and 2 empty SIMM slots.) -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1377377155.557358.1345513590091.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Is my processor 32-bit or 64-bit?
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:50:32 -0400 (EDT), Yang Chengwei wrote: Find out if long-mode is supported by you CPU, for example. $ grep -o lm /proc/cpuinfo I don't have Linux installed yet. (I'm trying to determine if I want to install the i386 or amd64 port.) Windows Server 2003 is installed, but I don't know a valid userid/password combination to log in. All I can access right now is the BIOS setup program. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1007445951.557457.1345514106953.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Off topic Gimp-2.8_Save and save as bad behavior
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 03:58:55PM +, Camaleón wrote: Developer's choices can be changed when enough people think they're wrong or simply badly put. That's when you can open a wishlist bug report to politely ask for a review of the default settings. OpenSource Development isn't a democracy. BTW This change isn't going to be reverted. It's the way pros work in the Graphics Industry when they're using layering and alpha channels. They need a way to save non-destructively and with all content. If people don't like the way GIMP is working in 2.8 then they most likely aren't the target audience that the GIMP developers are aiming for. It's not like there aren't lots of simple editors about, so choose one that fits the work-flow you wish to use. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120814005924.ga6...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: Debian desktop news
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 06:09:19AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2012-08-11 at 23:58 -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: So please lets stop the misinformation. GNOME3 eats much more resources. GNOME3 breaks every sane workflow for artist. Of course it does, as I stated, Again, on an old laptop like mine as stated, I have hand no problem running Debian Gnome-Shell for some time. In terms of work-flow, being a sane one is quite subjective. I understand that most people don't like to adapt to new things and get set in their ways -- but if we all did that, no progress would ever be made. Tends to get worse as we age too, which makes moi quite an anomaly. Ralf have you tried Cinnamon? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120812180055.ga6...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: DISQUS
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 04:11:18PM +1000, Barry White wrote: DISQUS appears to be written to be compatible with windows only, is this correct ? You mean the 3rd party commenting api that some organizations/folks use on their blogs? Don't think so, I installed it recently on my Google Blogspot blog. Works fine. Pretty sure Google isn't using Window's Servers and I know that it works on Linux/MacOS/MSFT browsers client side. shrug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120812180607.gb6...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: Debian desktop news
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:55:13AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:33:04AM -0400, Guy Gold wrote: GNOME 3 is quite different from the GNOME 2 series, and has made some people correspondingly upset. XFCE is fairly similar to GNOME 2, and may suit those people better. In particular, GNOME 3 really wants 3D accelerated video. XFCE doesn't care much about that. I've heard this said by other prior too. Gnome-Shell works fine on an older circa 2005 IBM X41 laptop. I've been running it since it came to SID. The main criteria in my experience is having enough RAM. I have 1.5 Gb and Gnome-Shell runs in about a 300 Mb of ram, and that's with a handful of Gnome-Shell-Extensions to boot. It runs faster and much smoother than Gnome 2 ever did on this laptop! So please lets stop the misinformation. Anything using the GTK2 toolkit is a step backward simply because of the outstanding bugs that will never be fixed. GTK3 and Gnome-Shell are an improvement in terms of speed. If one wants the older look of the GTK2 Gnome interface, it can be had, using Cinnamon. MATE isn't going anywhere in the future because it relies on buggy GTK2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120812035853.ga10...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: internet probably broken
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 06:53:42PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 09:28:27PM -0400, Stephen Allen wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:12:11PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/non-free amd64 Packages 47% [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers]E: Method gave invalid 200 URI Start message Every contact made with http.debian.net eventually gave the kind of message shown above today. Probaly some link in the internet between me and all of these servers got broken. Eventually I'll be able to do a full aptitude update but apparently not today. I'm confused. You're using debian.net OR debian.org? AFAK *net is the official address for repositories. JFTR Other way around. :) debian.net -- unnoficial Correct, and I meant to type that; honest! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120729132715.ga13...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: internet probably broken
On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 12:12:11PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/non-free amd64 Packages 47% [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers]E: Method gave invalid 200 URI Start message Every contact made with http.debian.net eventually gave the kind of message shown above today. Probaly some link in the internet between me and all of these servers got broken. Eventually I'll be able to do a full aptitude update but apparently not today. I'm confused. You're using debian.net OR debian.org? AFAK *net is the official address for repositories. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120729012827.ga8...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
