Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?
On 2024-07-19 11:09, Gary Dale wrote: On 2024-07-19 10:42, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-07-19 at 10:34, Gary Dale wrote: On 2024-07-18 09:52, Gary Dale wrote: Thanks for the tips guys, but I'm not going to switch to XFCE, I'm using an old AMD graphics card, it's a desktop machine, and the problem isn't specific to PDFs - although that seems to be one of the major triggers. My system has been upgrading from earlier versions of Debian since Potato. I've been on Trixie since it became the new testing. This crashing of Firefox is a new issue - had few problems with Trixie before that. I'm beginning to suspect it may be related to my recent introduction of a Pi-Hole into my network. Could it be a problem for Firefox when it gets a 0.0.0.0 address returned on a DNS lookup? Well, I can confirm it's not the Pi-Hole. Took it out of the DNS chain and Firefox is still crashing frequently. In fact, it's worse today. Now it crashes when I'm on Facebook and scrolling down using the mouse wheel. What kind of crashes are we talking about? I think there may be an 'about:crashes' or similar type of page built in to Firefox, which could give information about what it's seen happen. If it's memory-access-related, there might be benefit to trying to e.g. run under valgrind, intentionally reproduce a crash, and see what that tool reports. Then again, Firefox is a sufficiently complex app that that might not be fruitful. Have you tried running any hardware-error checking tools, e.g. one of the memtest suites? Crashes that frequent (with software, versions, and data which other people do not reproduce the problem with) suggest a possible hardware issue to my mind, although if nothing else is exhibiting visible issues that makes the hardware a less likely culprit. Is there any possibility that something in the library/etc. stack which Firefox sits on top of may be unreliable, or at least be of different versions from those which the people not observing the problem are using? One obvious candidate would probably be the graphics stack (driver, firmware, etc.), but that's not necessarily the only possibility. Looking at the submitted and unsubmitted reports, it seems the crashing started on July 10. It always seems to be "CanvasRenderer" as the culprit with libxul.so as the guilty module. Firefox was reportedly installed 32 days ago. Anyway, the Firefox developers have received dozens of automated crash reports from me over the past10 days. I do have a rather old graphics card, but it's an AMD one so the drivers should be OK. I doubt it's anything else hardware related as I'm not having problems with other programs. The only other things of note: 1) my screen does briefly go blank sometimes while doing something involving windows. 2) Plasma 5 isn't saving my desktop when I reboot. It's not X11 either. It's happening when I use Plasma 5 on Wayland.
Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?
On 2024-07-19 10:42, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-07-19 at 10:34, Gary Dale wrote: On 2024-07-18 09:52, Gary Dale wrote: Thanks for the tips guys, but I'm not going to switch to XFCE, I'm using an old AMD graphics card, it's a desktop machine, and the problem isn't specific to PDFs - although that seems to be one of the major triggers. My system has been upgrading from earlier versions of Debian since Potato. I've been on Trixie since it became the new testing. This crashing of Firefox is a new issue - had few problems with Trixie before that. I'm beginning to suspect it may be related to my recent introduction of a Pi-Hole into my network. Could it be a problem for Firefox when it gets a 0.0.0.0 address returned on a DNS lookup? Well, I can confirm it's not the Pi-Hole. Took it out of the DNS chain and Firefox is still crashing frequently. In fact, it's worse today. Now it crashes when I'm on Facebook and scrolling down using the mouse wheel. What kind of crashes are we talking about? I think there may be an 'about:crashes' or similar type of page built in to Firefox, which could give information about what it's seen happen. If it's memory-access-related, there might be benefit to trying to e.g. run under valgrind, intentionally reproduce a crash, and see what that tool reports. Then again, Firefox is a sufficiently complex app that that might not be fruitful. Have you tried running any hardware-error checking tools, e.g. one of the memtest suites? Crashes that frequent (with software, versions, and data which other people do not reproduce the problem with) suggest a possible hardware issue to my mind, although if nothing else is exhibiting visible issues that makes the hardware a less likely culprit. Is there any possibility that something in the library/etc. stack which Firefox sits on top of may be unreliable, or at least be of different versions from those which the people not observing the problem are using? One obvious candidate would probably be the graphics stack (driver, firmware, etc.), but that's not necessarily the only possibility. Looking at the submitted and unsubmitted reports, it seems the crashing started on July 10. It always seems to be "CanvasRenderer" as the culprit with libxul.so as the guilty module. Firefox was reportedly installed 32 days ago. Anyway, the Firefox developers have received dozens of automated crash reports from me over the past10 days. I do have a rather old graphics card, but it's an AMD one so the drivers should be OK. I doubt it's anything else hardware related as I'm not having problems with other programs. The only other things of note: 1) my screen does briefly go blank sometimes while doing something involving windows. 2) Plasma 5 isn't saving my desktop when I reboot.
Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?
On 2024-07-18 09:52, Gary Dale wrote: On 2024-07-17 21:25, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma 5 over X desktop. Firefox 115.12.0esr is crashing multiple times per day. It frequently happens when page I'm transfers to another page that creates a PDF or just has a complicated link. It's annoying. To visit some pages, I have to use Chromium instead. Earlier today I had to rename a sessionstore-backups json file because Firefox got caught in loop where it recognized it had a new tab open but the tab caused it to crash. I also have found that at least one site refuses to work with 115. That's been going on for a while. Again, I have to use Chromium for that site. Thanks for the tips guys, but I'm not going to switch to XFCE, I'm using an old AMD graphics card, it's a desktop machine, and the problem isn't specific to PDFs - although that seems to be one of the major triggers. My system has been upgrading from earlier versions of Debian since Potato. I've been on Trixie since it became the new testing. This crashing of Firefox is a new issue - had few problems with Trixie before that. I'm beginning to suspect it may be related to my recent introduction of a Pi-Hole into my network. Could it be a problem for Firefox when it gets a 0.0.0.0 address returned on a DNS lookup? Well, I can confirm it's not the Pi-Hole. Took it out of the DNS chain and Firefox is still crashing frequently. In fact, it's worse today. Now it crashes when I'm on Facebook and scrolling down using the mouse wheel.
Re: Nvidia chipsets and Debian 12 [WAS Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?]
On 2024-07-18 13:51, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 10:41:50AM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: On Thu, 2024-07-18 at 07:55 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: HOW did you upgrade? Did you go via 11? Fresh install on reformatted boot and root partitions. OK I can't do that with my old Dell Vostro 1700 because the NVidia graphics chip is soldered to the motherboard, and it needs the 340 driver, which is also no longer available. One chipset. If it *just* has Nvidia - at this point, use Nouveau - stop trying to use Nvidia drivers on old hardware and that Dell is 2008 vintage? I gave up trying to install the NVidia 340 driver on Debian 12.5. If the rendering is unbearably slow, I'll revert to Debian 10. Please *don't* do that. Debian 10 is out of security support. Debian 11 will receive a final security update on 31st August as it transitions to Freexian and LTS. Please use Debian stable wherever feasible. Software movces on - the very latest Nvidia drivers are "more free" but also incorporate entire RISC-V chipsets on board the latest cards. These are the very latest cards for a desktop/workstation. I can't upgrade a soldered-in chip. So just use Nouveau already on a ~15 year old laptop. All the very best, as ever, Andy Cater (amaca...@debian.org) I've been using Debian 12 (Bookworm) on my notebook for the past year without issues. It does require the NVidia drivers for the external display to work - something to do with the on-board AMD graphics chipset apparently.
Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?
On 2024-07-18 09:52, Gary Dale wrote: On 2024-07-17 21:25, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma 5 over X desktop. Firefox 115.12.0esr is crashing multiple times per day. It frequently happens when page I'm transfers to another page that creates a PDF or just has a complicated link. It's annoying. To visit some pages, I have to use Chromium instead. Earlier today I had to rename a sessionstore-backups json file because Firefox got caught in loop where it recognized it had a new tab open but the tab caused it to crash. I also have found that at least one site refuses to work with 115. That's been going on for a while. Again, I have to use Chromium for that site. Thanks for the tips guys, but I'm not going to switch to XFCE, I'm using an old AMD graphics card, it's a desktop machine, and the problem isn't specific to PDFs - although that seems to be one of the major triggers. My system has been upgrading from earlier versions of Debian since Potato. I've been on Trixie since it became the new testing. This crashing of Firefox is a new issue - had few problems with Trixie before that. I'm beginning to suspect it may be related to my recent introduction of a Pi-Hole into my network. Could it be a problem for Firefox when it gets a 0.0.0.0 address returned on a DNS lookup? For those asking for a particular site, here's one that has crashed Firefox twice on me - but not when I visit the page. When I scroll down using the mouse wheel, it's crashed three times when I get to around item 9.
Re: Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?
On 2024-07-17 21:25, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma 5 over X desktop. Firefox 115.12.0esr is crashing multiple times per day. It frequently happens when page I'm transfers to another page that creates a PDF or just has a complicated link. It's annoying. To visit some pages, I have to use Chromium instead. Earlier today I had to rename a sessionstore-backups json file because Firefox got caught in loop where it recognized it had a new tab open but the tab caused it to crash. I also have found that at least one site refuses to work with 115. That's been going on for a while. Again, I have to use Chromium for that site. Thanks for the tips guys, but I'm not going to switch to XFCE, I'm using an old AMD graphics card, it's a desktop machine, and the problem isn't specific to PDFs - although that seems to be one of the major triggers. My system has been upgrading from earlier versions of Debian since Potato. I've been on Trixie since it became the new testing. This crashing of Firefox is a new issue - had few problems with Trixie before that. I'm beginning to suspect it may be related to my recent introduction of a Pi-Hole into my network. Could it be a problem for Firefox when it gets a 0.0.0.0 address returned on a DNS lookup?
Why is Firefox crashing so much lately?
I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system, using the Plasma 5 over X desktop. Firefox 115.12.0esr is crashing multiple times per day. It frequently happens when page I'm transfers to another page that creates a PDF or just has a complicated link. It's annoying. To visit some pages, I have to use Chromium instead. Earlier today I had to rename a sessionstore-backups json file because Firefox got caught in loop where it recognized it had a new tab open but the tab caused it to crash. I also have found that at least one site refuses to work with 115. That's been going on for a while. Again, I have to use Chromium for that site.
Re: recent Trixie upgrade removed nfs client
On 2024-04-30 10:58, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 09:51:01 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: Hello Gary, Not looking for a solution. Just reporting a spate of oddities I've encountered lately. As Erwan says, this is 'normal'. Especially ATM due to the t64 transition. As you've found out, paying attention to removals is a Good Idea(tm). Sometimes those removals cannot be avoided. Of course, removal of 'library' to be replaced with 'libraryt64' is absolutely fine. If the upgrade wants to remove (say) half of the base packages of KDE, waiting a few days would be prudent. :-D You may also notice quite a few packages being reported as "local or obsolete". This is expected as certain packages have had to be removed from testing to enable a smoother flow of the transition. Many will return in due course. I do know of one exception, however; deborphan has bee removed from testing and, as things stand, it looks like it might be permanent - I fully understand why, but I shall mourn its passing, as I find it to be quite handy for weeding out cruft. Yes but: both gdb and nfs-client installed fine. Moreover, the nfs-client doesn't appear to be a dependency of any of the massive load of files updated lately. The gdb package however is but for some reason apt didn't want to install it. The point is that apt didn't handle the situation reasonably. If it wanted a package that was installable, should it not have installed it? And while nfs-client isn't a dependency of other installed packages, why should autoremove remove it? It's status of not being a dependency didn't change. There are lots of packages that aren't depended on by other packages that I have installed (e.g. every end-user application). Shouldn't autoremove only offer to remove packages that used to be a dependency but aren't currently (i.e. their status has changed)?
recent Trixie upgrade removed nfs client
I'm running Trixie on an AMD64 system. Yesterday after doing my usual morning full-upgrade, I rebooted because there were a lot of Plasma-related updates. When I logged in, I found I wasn't connected to my file server shares. I eventually traced this down to a lack of nfs software on my workstation. Reinstalling nfs-client fixed this. I guess I need to pay closer attention to what autoremove tells me it's going to remove, but I'm confused as to why it would remove nfs-client & related packages. This follows a couple of previous full-upgrades that were having problems. The first, a few days ago, was stopped by gdb not being available. However, it installed fine manually (apt install gdb). I don't see why apt full-upgrade didn't do this automatically as a dependency for whatever package needed it. The second was blocked by the lack of a lcl-qt5 or lcl-gtk5 library. I can see this as legitimate because it looks like you don't need both so the package manager lets you decide which you want. Not looking for a solution. Just reporting a spate of oddities I've encountered lately.
Anaconda-navigator installation problems
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 12 KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.103.0 Qt Version: 5.15.8 Kernel Version: 6.1.0-18-amd64 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: Wayland Processors: 4 × AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor Memory: 31.2 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: AMD CAICOS Manufacturer: MSI Product Name: MS-7974 System Version: 1.0 I have been trying to get the Anaconda Navigator to work for a month with no success. I keep getting the following message when trying to start the the program: (base) root@debian:/usr/share/bash-completion/completions# anaconda-navigator 2024-03-21 11:45:36,089 - WARNING linux_scaling.get_scaling_factor_using_dbus:32 An exception occurred during fetching list of system display settings. qt.qpa.xcb: could not connect to display qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even though it was found. This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized . Reinstalling the application may fix this problem. Available platform plugins are: eglfs, minimal, minimalegl, offscreen, vnc, webgl, xcb. Aborted (core dumped) Any help will be sincerely appreciated. Gary R.
timeshift error
Hi all I keep getting the following error when trying to use "timeshift 1". Ive tried reloading the software but still get the same error. ** (process:4286): CRITICAL**: 12:39:19.897: gee_abstract_collection_get_size: ass ertion 'self != NULL' failed App config saved: /etc/timeshift/timeshift.json I have used timeshift for some time with no problems. This error just started recently. Timeshift run with no argument works fine. Any help will be appreciated. Gary R
Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie?
On 2024-02-27 14:13, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 2:12 PM Gary Dale wrote: On 2024-02-27 10:25, Kushal Kumaran wrote: On Tue, Feb 27 2024 at 10:15:59 AM, Gary Dale wrote: [...] Can anyone explain how Trixie is handling crontabs now? This behavior has existed forever. I'm on bookworm, though, so no idea if anything is changing in trixie. The debian wiki suggests that the handling of cron/anacron is evolving. That sounds like a euphemism for "being killed off" by Systemd and its timers. Jeff There are a lot of things going on these days that don't seem quite ready for prime time. Examples include systemd networking, which remains woefully ill-equipped to deal with bonding and wifi. Wayland may have some good things to say about it but when I try it, it messes up my desktop. I have my desktop scaled to 150% to help with my old eyes, but Wayland doesn't seem to apply it to text, which is where I really need it. I'm hoping Plasma 6 will address the Wayland issues at least.
Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie?
On 2024-02-27 10:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 10:15:59AM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I have an old wifi adapter that Linux has problems with that works once I run: /usr/sbin/modprobe brcmfmac echo 13b1 0bdc > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/brcmfmac/new_id However when I add those lines to the root's crontab using # crontab -e as @reboot /usr/sbin/modprobe brcmfmac @reboot echo 13b1 0bdc > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/brcmfmac/new_id the second line fails. I get an e-mail stating "/bin/sh: 1: cannot create /sys/bus/usb/drivers/brcmfmac/new_id: Directory nonexistent" Having two separate @reboot lines might run them both in parallel, rather than sequentially. It might be better to combine them into one shell command, or one script. Something like this, perhaps: @reboot /usr/sbin/modprobe brcmfmac && echo 13b1 0bdc > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/brcmfmac/new_id Or put the commands into a shell script, then run the script from crontab. Yep. That works. Thanks.
Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie?
On 2024-02-27 10:25, Kushal Kumaran wrote: On Tue, Feb 27 2024 at 10:15:59 AM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I have an old wifi adapter that Linux has problems with that works once I run: /usr/sbin/modprobe brcmfmac echo 13b1 0bdc > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/brcmfmac/new_id However when I add those lines to the root's crontab using # crontab -e as @reboot /usr/sbin/modprobe brcmfmac @reboot echo 13b1 0bdc > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/brcmfmac/new_id the second line fails. I get an e-mail stating "/bin/sh: 1: cannot create /sys/bus/usb/drivers/brcmfmac/new_id: Directory nonexistent" I'm not sure if the modprobe is working or if the module is being loaded without it. It's likely that debian detects the need for the module and loads it. Is it possible that the command is being run before the module is loaded. Consider putting both into a single command, perhaps by writing a script that does both things. Anyway, that got me down the rabbit hole to try to find where the crontab file is. ls -l /root/cron* ls: cannot access '/root/cron*': No such file or directory also # whereis crontab crontab: /usr/bin/crontab /etc/crontab /usr/share/man/man1/crontab.1.gz /usr/share/man/man5/crontab.5.gz so it's not in the location that you'd expect. Nor can I find it in /etc/. The various cron files there don't contain the lines I;m looking for. Editing/creating crontab files using "crontab -e" creates it in /var/spool/cron/crontabs. Can anyone explain how Trixie is handling crontabs now? This behavior has existed forever. I'm on bookworm, though, so no idea if anything is changing in trixie. The debian wiki suggests that the handling of cron/anacron is evolving.
Re: where are the crontab files in Trixie?
On 2024-02-27 10:26, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-02-27 at 10:15, Gary Dale wrote: Anyway, that got me down the rabbit hole to try to find where the crontab file is. ls -l /root/cron* ls: cannot access '/root/cron*': No such file or directory also # whereis crontab crontab: /usr/bin/crontab /etc/crontab /usr/share/man/man1/crontab.1.gz /usr/share/man/man5/crontab.5.gz so it's not in the location that you'd expect. I'm not sure whereis is suitable for finding things like this. As its man page states, it's for finding "the binary, source, and manual page files for a command" - not the data files which the command may work with. locate crontab also fails to find it, as does find / -name crontab Nor can I find it in /etc/. The various cron files there don't contain the lines I;m looking for. Can anyone explain how Trixie is handling crontabs now? The first paragraph of crontab(1) states: Each user can have their own crontab, and though these are files in /var/spool/cron/crontabs,they are not intended to be edited directly. So, while I don't use per-user crontabs myself and so don't have experience with this personally, I would suggest looking in that directory - but not necessarily editing the files there, except via 'crontab -e' as you have already done. Thanks. I missed that when I was reading the comments. I need to enlarge the text more, I guess.
where are the crontab files in Trixie?
I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I have an old wifi adapter that Linux has problems with that works once I run: /usr/sbin/modprobe brcmfmac echo 13b1 0bdc > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/brcmfmac/new_id However when I add those lines to the root's crontab using # crontab -e as @reboot /usr/sbin/modprobe brcmfmac @reboot echo 13b1 0bdc > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/brcmfmac/new_id the second line fails. I get an e-mail stating "/bin/sh: 1: cannot create /sys/bus/usb/drivers/brcmfmac/new_id: Directory nonexistent" I'm not sure if the modprobe is working or if the module is being loaded without it. It's likely that debian detects the need for the module and loads it. Anyway, that got me down the rabbit hole to try to find where the crontab file is. ls -l /root/cron* ls: cannot access '/root/cron*': No such file or directory also # whereis crontab crontab: /usr/bin/crontab /etc/crontab /usr/share/man/man1/crontab.1.gz /usr/share/man/man5/crontab.5.gz so it's not in the location that you'd expect. Nor can I find it in /etc/. The various cron files there don't contain the lines I;m looking for. However, running crontab -e as root definitely shows the file I expect to see. Specifically: # Edit this file to introduce tasks to be run by cron. # # Each task to run has to be defined through a single line # indicating with different fields when the task will be run # and what command to run for the task # # To define the time you can provide concrete values for # minute (m), hour (h), day of month (dom), month (mon), # and day of week (dow) or use '*' in these fields (for 'any'). # # Notice that tasks will be started based on the cron's system # daemon's notion of time and timezones. # # Output of the crontab jobs (including errors) is sent through # email to the user the crontab file belongs to (unless redirected). # # For example, you can run a backup of all your user accounts # at 5 a.m every week with: # 0 5 * * 1 tar -zcf /var/backups/home.tgz /home/ # # For more information see the manual pages of crontab(5) and cron(8) # # m h dom mon dow command @reboot /usr/sbin/modprobe brcmfmac @reboot echo 13b1 0bdc > /sys/bus/usb/drivers/brcmfmac/new_id Looking at systemd-timers doesn't show anything obvious either. Can anyone explain how Trixie is handling crontabs now?
Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue
On 2024-02-26 22:47, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 10:10:45PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: On 2/26/24 20:28, Gary Dale wrote: $locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=iu_CA.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_GB LC_CTYPE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NAME="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ALL= $locale -a locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory C C.utf8 en_CA.utf8 en_US.utf8 fr_CA.utf8 POSIX Find out where LC_CTYPE and LC_MESSAGES is being set, they need changed. No, you're not reading it correctly. Look at LANG. Look at the double quotes around LC_CTYPE and LC_MESSAGES (among others). LC_CTYPE and LC_MESSAGES are *not* set. They are deduced from LANG. It's LANG that has the weird setting. All of the other iu_CA entries are double-quoted, so they are derived from it. If it was me, I would set /etc/default/locale to # File generated by update-locale LANG=C.UTF-8 and remove all references/assignments to any LC_ in all shell config files. then reboot and do a locale -a Rebooting doesn't do anything useful here. Simply logging out and back in would be sufficient. But there are two points of view here: 1) Why is Gary using locales that are not generated? 2) Why is Gary using *these specific* locales? I think you're approaching it from the point of view of "your settings are wrong, but you don't know where the settings are coming from, so find out, and fix them". Which is one valid POV. Another valid POV is "the settings are set the way Gary wants them, but the locales aren't generated, so generate them, and then it'll work". Only Gary can tell us which of these is the right approach. Maybe he's a fluent Inuktitut speaker. All I can say is that it's hard to believe that someone would *accidentally* have LANG set to iu_CA.UTF-8. Usually that's the kind of thing one would remember doing. The only unusual thing I've done was trying to set the locale to en_CA rather than en_US. However my installation dates back a long time and Linux has changed a lot over the years. At one point, I believe support for Canadian English was spotty so I had a en_GB locale added. The iu_CA is weird and seems to vanish when I set the default locale to C. But no, I've never gone beyond dpkg-reconfigure locales and the GUI settings for locales - other than yesterday trying to force en_CA in .bash_profile, which I have now removed.
Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue
On 2024-02-26 22:47, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 10:10:45PM -0500, Gremlin wrote: On 2/26/24 20:28, Gary Dale wrote: $locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=iu_CA.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_GB LC_CTYPE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NAME="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ALL= $locale -a locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory C C.utf8 en_CA.utf8 en_US.utf8 fr_CA.utf8 POSIX Find out where LC_CTYPE and LC_MESSAGES is being set, they need changed. No, you're not reading it correctly. Look at LANG. Look at the double quotes around LC_CTYPE and LC_MESSAGES (among others). LC_CTYPE and LC_MESSAGES are *not* set. They are deduced from LANG. It's LANG that has the weird setting. All of the other iu_CA entries are double-quoted, so they are derived from it. If it was me, I would set /etc/default/locale to # File generated by update-locale LANG=C.UTF-8 and remove all references/assignments to any LC_ in all shell config files. then reboot and do a locale -a Rebooting doesn't do anything useful here. Simply logging out and back in would be sufficient. But there are two points of view here: 1) Why is Gary using locales that are not generated? 2) Why is Gary using *these specific* locales? I think you're approaching it from the point of view of "your settings are wrong, but you don't know where the settings are coming from, so find out, and fix them". Which is one valid POV. Another valid POV is "the settings are set the way Gary wants them, but the locales aren't generated, so generate them, and then it'll work". Only Gary can tell us which of these is the right approach. Maybe he's a fluent Inuktitut speaker. All I can say is that it's hard to believe that someone would *accidentally* have LANG set to iu_CA.UTF-8. Usually that's the kind of thing one would remember doing. The only unusual thing I've done was trying to set the locale to en_CA rather than en_US. However my installation dates back a long time and Linux has changed a lot over the years. At one point, I believe support for Canadian English was spotty so I had a en_GB locale added. The iu_CA is weird and seems to vanish when I set the default locale to C. But no, I've never gone beyond
Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue
On 2024-02-26 22:10, Gremlin wrote: On 2/26/24 20:28, Gary Dale wrote: On 2024-02-26 17:31, Gremlin wrote: On 2/26/24 17:18, Gary Dale wrote: On 2024-02-26 16:03, Gremlin wrote: On 2/26/24 14:36, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I've installed jami from testing but it fails to start. When I run it from the command line, I get: $jami & [1] 7804 $ Using Qt runtime version: 6. 4.2 "notify server name: Plasma, vendor: KDE, version: 5.27.10, spec: 1.2" "Using locale: en_GB" terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error' what(): locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid [1]+ Aborted (core dumped) jami garydale@transponder:~/mnt/archives/2024/Lions Cl There might be something wrong with my locales but dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't fix it. After running it, I still get this output: $locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=iu_CA.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_GB LC_CTYPE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NAME="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ALL= Please note that I have not selected iu_CA.utf8 nor en_GB in my locales. Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks. Edit /etc/locale.gen and enable the locale(s) you wish to use. Then as root locale-gen dpkg-reconfigure locales Nope. /etc/locale.gen was already correct. Running the commands then rebooting leaves me with the same error messages. I also set up a ~/.bash_profile to set LANG to en_CA.UTF-8 but that also had no effect. The exact contents are: LANG="en_CA.UTF-8" export LANG You are making a mess, when about to make a mess stop until you have researched your issue. Start at the beginning not at the end.. Did you reboot or logout and login dpkg-reconfigure locales is suppose to set /etc/default/locales correctly, it runs update-locale if I remember correctly. cat /etc/locale.gen # This file lists locales that you wish to have built. You can find a list # of valid supported locales at /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED, and you can add # user defined locales to /usr/local/share/i18n/SUPPORTED. If you change # this file, you need to rerun locale-gen. # C.UTF-8 UTF-8 # aa_DJ ISO-8859-1 ^^ snip cat /etc/default/locale # File generated by update-locale LANG=C.UTF-8 locale -a I'm not making a mess, I'm trying to fix an existing mess. And yes, I've rebooted so many times today that I felt like I was running Windows. Sure you have made a mess, the debian installer didn't select locales and assign them at random. I am thinking the following will BARF also. localectl list-locales Sorry, but I've never touched locales except through apt/dpkg. I think the problem more likely relates to older locales not being properly removed by the upgrade/modification processes. $ localectl list-locales C.UTF-8 en_CA.UTF-8 en_US.UTF-8 fr_CA.UTF-8 cat /etc/default/locale LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_CA:en LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8 # locale -a C C.utf8 en_CA.utf8 en_US.utf8 fr_CA.utf8 POSIX Also: $locale -a locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory C C.utf8 en_CA.utf8 en_US.utf8 fr_CA.utf8 POSIX Find out where LC_CTYPE and LC_MESSAGES is being set, they need changed. If it was me, I would set /etc/default/locale to # File generated by update-locale LANG=C.UTF-8 and remove all references/assignments to any LC_ in all shell config files. then reboot and do a locale -a existing file before doing any changes: $ cat /etc/default/locale LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_CA:en LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8 I have no idea where LC_CTYPE and LC_MESSAGES are being set. Nor do I understand why the LANG should be set to C rather than en_CA. However, when I made that change and rebooted, the errors vanished. $ locale -a C C.utf8 en_CA.utf8 en_US.utf8 fr_CA.utf8 POSIX $ locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8" LC_ALL= I can now successfully run jami! Thanks.
Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue
On 2024-02-26 21:29, Max Nikulin wrote: env | grep 'LC_\|LANG' systemctl --user show-environment | grep 'LC_\|LANG' $ env | grep 'LC_\|LANG' LANGUAGE=en_GB LC_MONETARY=en_CA.UTF-8 LANG=iu_CA.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=en_CA.UTF-8 $ systemctl --user show-environment | grep 'LC_\|LANG' LANG=iu_CA.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_GB LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=en_CA.UTF-8 They agree. The en_GB seems to be coming from Plasma 5's Region & Language settings. However I see the message that it is "unsupported", which seems appropriate. When I change it to American English, the en_GB disappears from the available settings. When I try to "Add More...", I'm only given the options of "C" and "American English", neither of which I want. However the Spellcheck options do allow for English (Canada).
Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue
On 2024-02-26 20:43, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 08:28:01PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: $locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=iu_CA.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_GB LC_CTYPE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NAME="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ALL= You've got three different locales mentioned here: iu_CA.UTF-8 en_GB en_CA.UTF-8 # locale -a C C.utf8 en_CA.utf8 en_US.utf8 fr_CA.utf8 POSIX Out of the three that you're trying to use, only one has been generated. Either generate the two that you're missing, or stop using them. I'm trying to stop using them. That's the point. How do I get rid of them? They show up no matter how many times I reconfigure my locales.
Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue
On 2024-02-26 17:31, Gremlin wrote: On 2/26/24 17:18, Gary Dale wrote: On 2024-02-26 16:03, Gremlin wrote: On 2/26/24 14:36, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I've installed jami from testing but it fails to start. When I run it from the command line, I get: $jami & [1] 7804 $ Using Qt runtime version: 6. 4.2 "notify server name: Plasma, vendor: KDE, version: 5.27.10, spec: 1.2" "Using locale: en_GB" terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error' what(): locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid [1]+ Aborted (core dumped) jami garydale@transponder:~/mnt/archives/2024/Lions Cl There might be something wrong with my locales but dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't fix it. After running it, I still get this output: $locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=iu_CA.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_GB LC_CTYPE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NAME="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ALL= Please note that I have not selected iu_CA.utf8 nor en_GB in my locales. Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks. Edit /etc/locale.gen and enable the locale(s) you wish to use. Then as root locale-gen dpkg-reconfigure locales Nope. /etc/locale.gen was already correct. Running the commands then rebooting leaves me with the same error messages. I also set up a ~/.bash_profile to set LANG to en_CA.UTF-8 but that also had no effect. The exact contents are: LANG="en_CA.UTF-8" export LANG You are making a mess, when about to make a mess stop until you have researched your issue. Start at the beginning not at the end.. Did you reboot or logout and login dpkg-reconfigure locales is suppose to set /etc/default/locales correctly, it runs update-locale if I remember correctly. cat /etc/locale.gen # This file lists locales that you wish to have built. You can find a list # of valid supported locales at /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED, and you can add # user defined locales to /usr/local/share/i18n/SUPPORTED. If you change # this file, you need to rerun locale-gen. # C.UTF-8 UTF-8 # aa_DJ ISO-8859-1 # aa_DJ.UTF-8 UTF-8 # aa_ER UTF-8 # aa_ER@saaho UTF-8 # aa_ET UTF-8 # af_ZA ISO-8859-1 # af_ZA.UTF-8 UTF-8 # agr_PE UTF-8 # ak_GH UTF-8 # am_ET UTF-8 # an_ES ISO-8859-15 # an_ES.UTF-8 UTF-8 # anp_IN UTF-8 # ar_AE ISO-8859-6 # ar_AE.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_BH ISO-8859-6 # ar_BH.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_DZ ISO-8859-6 # ar_DZ.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_EG ISO-8859-6 # ar_EG.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_IN UTF-8 # ar_IQ ISO-8859-6 # ar_IQ.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_JO ISO-8859-6 # ar_JO.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_KW ISO-8859-6 # ar_KW.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_LB ISO-8859-6 # ar_LB.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_LY ISO-8859-6 # ar_LY.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_MA ISO-8859-6 # ar_MA.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_OM ISO-8859-6 # ar_OM.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_QA ISO-8859-6 # ar_QA.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_SA ISO-8859-6 # ar_SA.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_SD ISO-8859-6 # ar_SD.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_SS UTF-8 # ar_SY ISO-8859-6 # ar_SY.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_TN ISO-8859-6 # ar_TN.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ar_YE ISO-8859-6 # ar_YE.UTF-8 UTF-8 # as_IN UTF-8 # ast_ES ISO-8859-15 # ast_ES.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ayc_PE UTF-8 # az_AZ UTF-8 # az_IR UTF-8 # be_BY CP1251 # be_BY.UTF-8 UTF-8 # be_BY@latin UTF-8 # bem_ZM UTF-8 # ber_DZ UTF-8 # ber_MA UTF-8 # bg_BG CP1251 # bg_BG.UTF-8 UTF-8 # bhb_IN.UTF-8 UTF-8 # bho_IN UTF-8 # bho_NP UTF-8 # bi_VU UTF-8 # bn_BD UTF-8 # bn_IN UTF-8 # bo_CN UTF-8 # bo_IN UTF-8 # br_FR ISO-8859-1 # br_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 # br_FR@euro ISO-8859-15 # brx_IN UTF-8 # bs_BA ISO-8859-2 # bs_BA.UTF-8 UTF-8 # byn_ER UTF-8 # ca_AD ISO-8859-15 # ca_AD.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ca_ES ISO-8859-1 # ca_ES.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ca_ES@euro ISO-8859-15 # ca_ES@valencia UTF-8 # ca_FR ISO-8859-15 # ca_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ca_IT ISO-8859-15 # ca_IT.UTF-8 UTF-8 # ce_RU UTF-8 # chr_US UTF-8 # ckb_IQ UTF-8 # cmn_TW UTF-8 # crh_UA UTF-8 # cs_CZ ISO-8859-2 # cs_CZ.UTF-8 UTF-8 # csb_PL UTF-8 # cv_RU UTF-8 # cy_GB ISO-8859-14 # cy_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8 # da_DK ISO-8859-1 # da_DK.UTF-8 UTF-8 # de_AT ISO-8859-1 # de_AT.UTF-8 UTF-8 # de_AT@euro ISO-8859-15 # de_BE ISO-8859-1 # de_BE.UTF-8 UTF-8 # de_BE@euro ISO-8859-15 # de_CH ISO-8859-1 # de_CH.UTF-8 UTF-8 # de_DE ISO-8859-1 # de_DE.UTF-8 UTF-8 # de_DE@euro ISO-8859-15 # de_IT ISO-8859-1 # de_IT.UTF-8 UTF-8 # de_LI.UTF-8 UTF-8 # de_LU ISO-8859-1 # de_LU.UTF-8 UTF-8 # de_LU@euro ISO-8859-15 # doi_IN UTF-8 # dsb_DE UTF-8 # dv_MV UTF-8 # dz_BT UTF-8 # el_CY ISO-8859-7 # el_CY.UTF-8 UTF-8 # el_GR ISO-8859-7 # el_GR.UTF-8 UTF-8 # el_GR@euro ISO-8859-7 # en_AG UTF-8 # en_AU ISO-8859-1 # en_AU.UTF-8 UTF-8 # en
Re: running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue
On 2024-02-26 16:03, Gremlin wrote: On 2/26/24 14:36, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I've installed jami from testing but it fails to start. When I run it from the command line, I get: $jami & [1] 7804 $ Using Qt runtime version: 6. 4.2 "notify server name: Plasma, vendor: KDE, version: 5.27.10, spec: 1.2" "Using locale: en_GB" terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error' what(): locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid [1]+ Aborted (core dumped) jami garydale@transponder:~/mnt/archives/2024/Lions Cl There might be something wrong with my locales but dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't fix it. After running it, I still get this output: $locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=iu_CA.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_GB LC_CTYPE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NAME="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ALL= Please note that I have not selected iu_CA.utf8 nor en_GB in my locales. Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks. Edit /etc/locale.gen and enable the locale(s) you wish to use. Then as root locale-gen dpkg-reconfigure locales Nope. /etc/locale.gen was already correct. Running the commands then rebooting leaves me with the same error messages. I also set up a ~/.bash_profile to set LANG to en_CA.UTF-8 but that also had no effect. The exact contents are: LANG="en_CA.UTF-8" export LANG
running Jami in Trixie - possible locale issue
I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I've installed jami from testing but it fails to start. When I run it from the command line, I get: $jami & [1] 7804 $ Using Qt runtime version: 6. 4.2 "notify server name: Plasma, vendor: KDE, version: 5.27.10, spec: 1.2" "Using locale: en_GB" terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error' what(): locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid [1]+ Aborted (core dumped) jami garydale@transponder:~/mnt/archives/2024/Lions Cl There might be something wrong with my locales but dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't fix it. After running it, I still get this output: $locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=iu_CA.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_GB LC_CTYPE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_NAME="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION="iu_CA.UTF-8" LC_ALL= Please note that I have not selected iu_CA.utf8 nor en_GB in my locales. Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks.
Re: Can't list root directory
On 2024-02-01 02:37, Loren M. Lang wrote: On January 31, 2024 1:28:37 PM PST, hw wrote: On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 09:27 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: On 2024-01-30 15:54, hw wrote: On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 11:42 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 workstation. I've lost the ability to see the root directory even when I am logged in as root (su -). This has been happening intermittently for several months. I initially thought it might be related to failing NVME drive that was part of a RAID1 array that is mounted as "/" but I replaced the device and the problem is still happening. [...] What happens when you put the device you replaced back? How could putting a known-failing device back in help? The problem existed before I replaced it and continues to exist after the replacement. It sounded like you were able to list the root directory (at least sometimes) before you did the replacement. Manually failing the device (perhaps after adding it back first) could make a difference. I've seen such indefinite hangs only when an NFS share has become unreachable after it had been mounted. You could use clonezilla to make a copy and then perhaps convert the file system to btrfs. Do you still have the problem when you remove one of the NVME storage things? Perhaps you have the equivivalent of a bad SATA cable or the mainboard doesn't like it when you access two of those at the same time, or something like that. Even simple network cables can behave very strangely, and NVME may be a bit more complicated than that. Running fsck on every boot to work around an issue like this is certainly a bad idea. Doesn't fsck report anything? If it really makes a difference in itself rather than creating some side effect that leads to the root directory being readable, it should report something. Perhaps you need to increase its verbosity. If there's no report then it would look like a side effect and raise the question what side effect it might be. Does fsck run before the RAID has been brought up or after? Is the RAID up when booting is completed? What does mdadm say about the device(s)? Can you still list the root directory when you manually fail either drive? What exactly are the circumstances under which you can and not list the root directory? You need to do some investigating and ask questions like those ... Also, instead of doing "ls -l /" which will stat() every child folder under root, try "/bin/ls -f /" and see if that is successful. That will only do a readdir() on root itself. Also, it might be interesting to get a log of "strace ls -l /" to confirm exactly where the hang happens. -Loren Thanks loren. /bin/ls -l works. The strace shows the hang is on /keybase. The strace did a really bad hang - ctrlC wouldn't kill it. I've set the fsck count to 1 again, so I can reboot and take a look at it.
Re: Can't list root directory
On 2024-01-31 12:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 29/01/2024 23:42, Gary Dale wrote: "ls -l /" just hangs It may dereference symlinks, call stat, etc. to colorize output. May it happen that you have automount points or something related to network mounts? Does "echo /*" hangs? Even bash prompt may do some funny stuff. I would try it from "dash". Can you install strace? E.g. copy files while booted from a live media. Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I'll retune the array to not fsck every boot and see if the problem recurs so I can try your suggestions.
Re: Can't list root directory
On 2024-01-29 12:55, Hans wrote: Hi Gary, before loosing any data, I suggest, to boot from a liuvefile linux. Please use a modern livefile like Knoppix or Kali-Linux. If it is not a BIOS problem, you should see the device again and are able to mount it. If /root is on a seperated partition, you can do some filesystem checks, like e2fsck or else. Ans: Most important, with a livefile system you can mount an external harddrive and backup all files. Thus , even when the /dev/nvme*** is died or partly broken, you can maybe restore /root on another partition. Second: Please check ACL, although I do not believe the reason for these, it is worth to look at this. Maybe you or someone else has chenged it accidently. Third idea: Is the harddrive full? In the past I has the problem, not to be able to do anything. The reason: My harddrive was completely full (some temporary file was the reason). Deleting this big file was the trick. Just some ideas, maybe it could help. Good luck! Best Hans There is no problem seeing the root folder when I boot from a live distro. fsck never finds any significant issue. An ACL issue would be permanent. This comes and goes. I actually doubled the size of the root device when I put in the new NVME drive. When I set up the RAID array, I'd bought a 500G second drive to mirror the 256G original drive. When I replaced the 256G drive, I was able to expand the array to 500G (less a small amount for the EFI partition). The partition has lots of free space. As I said, running an fsck seems to fix the issue temporarily. I now run an fsck on every boot.
Re: Can't list root directory
On 2024-01-29 11:42, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 workstation. I've lost the ability to see the root directory even when I am logged in as root (su -). This has been happening intermittently for several months. I initially thought it might be related to failing NVME drive that was part of a RAID1 array that is mounted as "/" but I replaced the device and the problem is still happening. I had been able to fix it by booting to SystemRescue and running an fsck on the device but it didn't work this time. The device checks out OK (even when using fsck -/dev/mdx -f) but I still can't list the root. "ls -l /" just hangs, as do any attempts to see the root directory in a graphical file manager. In dolphin this means there is nothing in the folders - and since that is the default starting point I have to manually enter a folder name (e.g. /home/me) in the location bar to be able to see anything - but even then the folders panel remains empty. Even running commands like df -h hang because they can't access the root folder. However the system is otherwise running normally. Strangely, in the past simply booting to a rescue shell then exiting would also work. I'd usually try to do an fsck on the raid device but that would always fail because it was mounted. The only thing I noticed that was unusual was I rebooted after installing the latest Trixie updates this morning. That took about 10 minutes to shut down - 6 of which were spent waiting for a drkonqi process to finish. There was also a systemd message really late in the shutdown about /dev/md0 but that's not the root device. I'm used to Linux taking its time to shutdown lately so I don't think this was related. The systemd shutdown just seems to be easily delayed. Any ideas on how I can restore my ability to see the root directory? OK, got it working again. I used tune2fs to do an fsck on every boot. This being an NVME device, it's barely noticeable.
Re: Can't list root directory
On 2024-01-30 15:54, hw wrote: On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 11:42 -0500, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 workstation. I've lost the ability to see the root directory even when I am logged in as root (su -). This has been happening intermittently for several months. I initially thought it might be related to failing NVME drive that was part of a RAID1 array that is mounted as "/" but I replaced the device and the problem is still happening. [...] What happens when you put the device you replaced back? How could putting a known-failing device back in help? The problem existed before I replaced it and continues to exist after the replacement.
Can't list root directory
I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 workstation. I've lost the ability to see the root directory even when I am logged in as root (su -). This has been happening intermittently for several months. I initially thought it might be related to failing NVME drive that was part of a RAID1 array that is mounted as "/" but I replaced the device and the problem is still happening. I had been able to fix it by booting to SystemRescue and running an fsck on the device but it didn't work this time. The device checks out OK (even when using fsck -/dev/mdx -f) but I still can't list the root. "ls -l /" just hangs, as do any attempts to see the root directory in a graphical file manager. In dolphin this means there is nothing in the folders - and since that is the default starting point I have to manually enter a folder name (e.g. /home/me) in the location bar to be able to see anything - but even then the folders panel remains empty. Even running commands like df -h hang because they can't access the root folder. However the system is otherwise running normally. Strangely, in the past simply booting to a rescue shell then exiting would also work. I'd usually try to do an fsck on the raid device but that would always fail because it was mounted. The only thing I noticed that was unusual was I rebooted after installing the latest Trixie updates this morning. That took about 10 minutes to shut down - 6 of which were spent waiting for a drkonqi process to finish. There was also a systemd message really late in the shutdown about /dev/md0 but that's not the root device. I'm used to Linux taking its time to shutdown lately so I don't think this was related. The systemd shutdown just seems to be easily delayed. Any ideas on how I can restore my ability to see the root directory?
Is there a problem with Linux-image-6.1.0-16?
Several days ago my main server upgraded to kernel 6.1.0-16 but various other devices that are also running Bookworm seem stuck at 6.1.0-13. They are all using the same architecture. Some are using the same mirror as the server that upgraded. I haven't set any special policies on upgrades. Can anyone explain what's going on?
Re: IMPORTANT: do NOT upgrade to new stable point release
On 2023-12-09 13:09, Dan Ritter wrote: https://fulda.social/@Ganneff/111551628003050712 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1057843 The new kernel release is reported to contain an ext4 data corruption bug. It's prudent not to upgrade, or if you have started to upgrade, not to reboot, until a new kernel release is prepared. -dsr- Pleased to note that 6.1.0-15 seems to have hit the mirrors now. I assume this is the fixed version.
Re: IMPORTANT: do NOT upgrade to new stable point release
On 2023-12-10 11:56, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 11:50:18AM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: On 2023-12-09 14:18, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 9 Dec 2023 20:54 +0200, from ale...@nanoid.net (Alexis Grigoriou): I just upgraded to Bookworm this morning. I did reboot a couple of times but there seems to be no problem (yet). Is there anything I should look for or do other than rebooting? If you upgraded this morning, then I would expect that you are okay for now. Per #5 in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1057843 the bug is present in kernel Debian package version 6.1.64-1. If you are on 6.1.55-1 (current Bookworm stable per last night) you _likely_ aren't affected. If you are on 6.1.55-1 (or earlier), just hold off on upgrades for now; and if you need to upgrade something else, take great care for now to ensure that no Linux kernel packages get upgraded to any version < 6.1.66, and preferably not < 6.1.66-1. For versions, check: * uname -v * dpkg -l linux-image-\* In that bug report thread, #21 lists 6.1.66 as fixed upstream, and #28 indicates that 6.1.66-1 includes the fix from upstream, and that it is being published. Any idea when the fixed version will hit stable? With headless servers, it's a pain to downgrade to a previous kernel version. Give them a little while: release team are working on it right now as I type I'm fairly sure they're pushing it out more or less immediately once they're sure that it's built correctly and synced to all the appropriate places to be further synced to mirrors "Now" is almost exactly Sun 10 Dec 16:55:43 UTC 2023 Andy (amaca...@debian.org) Thanks. I logged into each of my headless servers and removed the problematic kernel then rebooted them so they are all at 6.1.0-13 now.
Re: IMPORTANT: do NOT upgrade to new stable point release
On 2023-12-10 12:24, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 05:09:15PM -, Curt wrote: On 2023-12-10, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: "Now" is almost exactly Sun 10 Dec 16:55:43 UTC 2023 You mean in the Zulu Time Zone (as I am all at sea)? Use "date -u" to see current UTC time. That should be sufficient to let you know how long it has been since Andrew's "now". You're getting too complicated. The date stamp on his e-mail will display the correct local time (as you have set it) so I can see that he wrote it 30 minutes ago. That relative time is universal across time zones.
Re: IMPORTANT: do NOT upgrade to new stable point release
On 2023-12-09 14:18, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 9 Dec 2023 20:54 +0200, from ale...@nanoid.net (Alexis Grigoriou): I just upgraded to Bookworm this morning. I did reboot a couple of times but there seems to be no problem (yet). Is there anything I should look for or do other than rebooting? If you upgraded this morning, then I would expect that you are okay for now. Per #5 in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1057843 the bug is present in kernel Debian package version 6.1.64-1. If you are on 6.1.55-1 (current Bookworm stable per last night) you _likely_ aren't affected. If you are on 6.1.55-1 (or earlier), just hold off on upgrades for now; and if you need to upgrade something else, take great care for now to ensure that no Linux kernel packages get upgraded to any version < 6.1.66, and preferably not < 6.1.66-1. For versions, check: * uname -v * dpkg -l linux-image-\* In that bug report thread, #21 lists 6.1.66 as fixed upstream, and #28 indicates that 6.1.66-1 includes the fix from upstream, and that it is being published. Any idea when the fixed version will hit stable? With headless servers, it's a pain to downgrade to a previous kernel version.
CUPS classes wrecking printing
I've running Debian/Bookworm (stable) on an AMD64 system - a laptop. It's a fresh install of Debian from about 6 months back that has been kept up to date. Each December I am involved in an event that requires me to use 3 photo-printers to print a lot of 4x6 photos. It takes 2 or 3 printers to get the throughput so people aren't waiting for their photos. I've been doing this for a decade using various photo printers. I've always just set up a CUPS "photo" class and added the printers to it. Then I'd use lpr -P photo to send the output to whichever printer was free. I even did it last year using the same laptop and printers and things worked. This year, because it was a new OS install, I had to connect the printers and install them again. This required the gutenprint drivers for two of the printers while the newest seems to work "driverless". All the printers were tested individually and printed the CUPS test page perfectly. However when I sent something to the "photo" class, whichever printer received the job just printed a page of bands of colour. I could send a picture to an individual printer OK but not send it to the "photo" class. I got through the event by skipping the lpr -P photo... command and manually selecting a printer from Gwenview when I was viewing the picture earlier in the workflow (to verify it was worth printing). This was not ideal and I only got through it because this year's event was less than half its usual size. This was not an lpr problem because I also couldn't print to the class from Gwenview. CUPS classes seem to be broken.
Re: balenaEtcher installation problems
On 11/9/23 18:22, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 8:47 PM Gary L. Roach wrote: Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 12 KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.103.0 Qt Version: 5.15.8 Kernel Version: 6.1.0-13-amd64 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: Wayland Processors: 4 × AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor Memory: 31.2 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: AMD CAICOS Manufacturer: MSI Product Name: MS-7974 System Version: 1.0 I have been trying to install balenaEtcher for 2 days but can't get rid of the following errors : ERROR:ozone_platform_x11.cc(247)] Missing X server or $DISPLAY [10145:1109/120137.666202:ERROR:env.cc(226)] The platform failed to initialize. Exiting I have tried everything I could find with google searches to no avail. My $DISPLAY variable is blank which may be the source of the problem.But what should it contain? I know that the information I am giving is a bit sketchy but is the best I can do at this point. There are lots of fixes listed on the internet but none of them work. I am using the .deb file down loaded from the balena web page and installing it with dpkg -i . Any help will be sincerely appreciated. Try `export DISPLAY=":0.0"`. Jeff I just solved the problem. I was missing 4 dependencies. One must use the .deb file not the appimage file and run dpkg -I and install the missing items. I hope this helps others Thanks Gary R
balenaEtcher installation problem
Hi all Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 12 KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.103.0 Qt Version: 5.15.8 Kernel Version: 6.1.0-13-amd64 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: Wayland Processors: 4 × AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor Memory: 31.2 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: AMD CAICOS Manufacturer: MSI Product Name: MS-7974 System Version: 1.0 I have been trying to install the balenaEtcher software package *balenaEtcher-1.18.11-x64.AppImage *for 2 days without success. I keep getting the following error: *ERROR:ozone_platform_x11.cc(247)] Missing X server or $DISPLAY [10145:1109/120137.666202:ERROR:env.cc(226)] The platform failed to initialize. Exiting* I have been searching the internet for solutions and have found many listings but none of them work. My $DISPLAY variable is empty which may be the source of the problem but what should it hold? I am using the .deb file downloaded from the balena web sight. Sorry if this information is a bit sketchy but is the best I can do at this point. Any help on this problem will be sincerely appreciated. i really need a package that can handle burning .iso files to SD cards and this seems to be the best out there. Gary R * *
balenaEtcher installation problems
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 12 KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.103.0 Qt Version: 5.15.8 Kernel Version: 6.1.0-13-amd64 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: Wayland Processors: 4 × AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor Memory: 31.2 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: AMD CAICOS Manufacturer: MSI Product Name: MS-7974 System Version: 1.0 I have been trying to install balenaEtcher for 2 days but can't get rid of the following errors : *ERROR:ozone_platform_x11.cc(247)] Missing X server or $DISPLAY [10145:1109/120137.666202:ERROR:env.cc(226)] The platform failed to initialize. Exiting* I have tried everything I could find with google searches to no avail. My $DISPLAY variable is blank which may be the source of the problem.But what should it contain? I know that the information I am giving is a bit sketchy but is the best I can do at this point. There are lots of fixes listed on the internet but none of them work. I am using the .deb file down loaded from the balena web page and installing it with dpkg -i . Any help will be sincerely appreciated. Gary R.
Re: network bonding on Debian/Trixie
On 2023-10-16 21:20, Igor Cicimov wrote: On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 12:12 PM Gary Dale wrote: On 2023-10-16 18:52, Igor Cicimov wrote: Hi, On Tue, Oct 17, 2023, 8:00 AM Gary Dale wrote: I'm trying to configure network bonding on an AMD64 system running Debian/Trixie. I've got a wired connection and a wifi connection, both of which work individually. I'd like them to work together to improve the throughput but for now I'm just trying to get the bond to work. However when I configure them, the wifi interface always shows down. # ip addr 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 <http://127.0.0.1/8> scope host lo valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host noprefixroute valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: enp10s0: mtu 1500 qdisc mq master bond0 state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 3c:7c:3f:ef:15:47 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 4: wlxc4411e319ad5: mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000 link/ether c4:41:1e:31:9a:d5 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 7: bond0: mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 3c:7c:3f:ef:15:47 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.1.20/24 <http://192.168.1.20/24> brd 192.168.1.255 scope global bond0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 fe80::3e7c:3fff:feef:1547/64 scope link proto kernel_ll valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever It does this even if I pull the cable from the wired connection. The wifi never comes up. Here's the /etc/network/interfaces file: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto enp10s0 iface enp10s0 inet manual bond-master bond0 bond-mode 1 auto wlxc4411e319ad5 iface wlxc4411e319ad5 inet manual bond-master bond0 bond-mode 1 auto bond0 iface bond0 inet static address 192.168.1.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 bond-slaves enp10s0 wlxc4411e319ad5 bond-mode 1 bond-miimon 100 bond-downdelay 200 bond-updelay 200 I'd like to get it to work in a faster mode but for now the backup at least allows the networking to start without the wifi. Other modes seem to disable networking until both interfaces come up, which is not a good design decision IMHO. At least with mode 1, the network starts. Any ideas on how to get the wifi to work in bonding? Probably your wifi card does not support MII, check with: ~]# ethtool wlxc4411e319ad5 | grep "Link detected:" and: ~]# cat /proc/net/bonding/bind0 I'm assuming that no output is bad here. Still, I don't see why a device that works shouldn't be able to participate in a bond. As a network interface, the wifi device produces and responds to network traffic. Are you saying the bonding takes place below the driver level? I'm saying the bonding driver is doing its own link detection on the presented interfaces for failover purposes. It can use ARP or MII. You can not enable MII on an interface that does not support that functionality. Use mii-tool to check both interfaces and see the difference. Apparently neither interface supports it. According to what I have read, calling mii-tool with no parameters should return a terse list of all interfaces that support it. However, when I try that, I get "No interface specified". Moreover, # mii-tool enp10s0 SIOCGMIIPHY on 'enp10s0' failed: Operation not supported # mii-tool wlxc4411e319ad5 SIOCGMIIPHY on 'wlxc4411e319ad5' failed: Operation not supported which seems weird given that I have a recent, mainstream ASUS mainboard with a generic realtek onboard NIC that seems to be participating in the bonding. I've also not seen any warnings that bonding requires a specific (and apparently rare) type of NIC. Indeed, my laptop seems to fail over nicely between ethernet and wifi. Perhaps mii-tool is broken on Trixie?
Re: network bonding on Debian/Trixie
On 2023-10-16 18:52, Igor Cicimov wrote: Hi, On Tue, Oct 17, 2023, 8:00 AM Gary Dale wrote: I'm trying to configure network bonding on an AMD64 system running Debian/Trixie. I've got a wired connection and a wifi connection, both of which work individually. I'd like them to work together to improve the throughput but for now I'm just trying to get the bond to work. However when I configure them, the wifi interface always shows down. # ip addr 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 <http://127.0.0.1/8> scope host lo valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host noprefixroute valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: enp10s0: mtu 1500 qdisc mq master bond0 state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 3c:7c:3f:ef:15:47 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 4: wlxc4411e319ad5: mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000 link/ether c4:41:1e:31:9a:d5 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 7: bond0: mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 3c:7c:3f:ef:15:47 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.1.20/24 <http://192.168.1.20/24> brd 192.168.1.255 scope global bond0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 fe80::3e7c:3fff:feef:1547/64 scope link proto kernel_ll valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever It does this even if I pull the cable from the wired connection. The wifi never comes up. Here's the /etc/network/interfaces file: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto enp10s0 iface enp10s0 inet manual bond-master bond0 bond-mode 1 auto wlxc4411e319ad5 iface wlxc4411e319ad5 inet manual bond-master bond0 bond-mode 1 auto bond0 iface bond0 inet static address 192.168.1.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 bond-slaves enp10s0 wlxc4411e319ad5 bond-mode 1 bond-miimon 100 bond-downdelay 200 bond-updelay 200 I'd like to get it to work in a faster mode but for now the backup at least allows the networking to start without the wifi. Other modes seem to disable networking until both interfaces come up, which is not a good design decision IMHO. At least with mode 1, the network starts. Any ideas on how to get the wifi to work in bonding? Probably your wifi card does not support MII, check with: ~]# ethtool wlxc4411e319ad5 | grep "Link detected:" and: ~]# cat /proc/net/bonding/bind0 I'm assuming that no output is bad here. Still, I don't see why a device that works shouldn't be able to participate in a bond. As a network interface, the wifi device produces and responds to network traffic. Are you saying the bonding takes place below the driver level?
network bonding on Debian/Trixie
I'm trying to configure network bonding on an AMD64 system running Debian/Trixie. I've got a wired connection and a wifi connection, both of which work individually. I'd like them to work together to improve the throughput but for now I'm just trying to get the bond to work. However when I configure them, the wifi interface always shows down. # ip addr 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host noprefixroute valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: enp10s0: mtu 1500 qdisc mq master bond0 state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 3c:7c:3f:ef:15:47 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 4: wlxc4411e319ad5: mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 1000 link/ether c4:41:1e:31:9a:d5 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 7: bond0: mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 3c:7c:3f:ef:15:47 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.1.20/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global bond0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 fe80::3e7c:3fff:feef:1547/64 scope link proto kernel_ll valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever It does this even if I pull the cable from the wired connection. The wifi never comes up. Here's the /etc/network/interfaces file: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto enp10s0 iface enp10s0 inet manual bond-master bond0 bond-mode 1 auto wlxc4411e319ad5 iface wlxc4411e319ad5 inet manual bond-master bond0 bond-mode 1 auto bond0 iface bond0 inet static address 192.168.1.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 bond-slaves enp10s0 wlxc4411e319ad5 bond-mode 1 bond-miimon 100 bond-downdelay 200 bond-updelay 200 I'd like to get it to work in a faster mode but for now the backup at least allows the networking to start without the wifi. Other modes seem to disable networking until both interfaces come up, which is not a good design decision IMHO. At least with mode 1, the network starts. Any ideas on how to get the wifi to work in bonding?
Re: SMART error messages being sent to the wrong address
On 2023-10-04 02:43, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 9:32 PM Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Bookworm on a headless server. The box has had a variety of roles and names. At one time it was called fanny after the groundbreaking rock band and because it had a lot of fans in it. This latter attribute led to it being made into a file server and renamed BigData. The problem I'm having is that SMART error messages are being sent to root@fanny. instead of to me. /etc/aliases has all mail to root going to me, but because this addressed to root on a machine with a different name, it goes out and I only get the message when it bounces (because the machine name no longer exists). I can't find where the e-mail address is being set. Tracing down the smartmontools config files didn't turn up any obvious problems. Can anyone point in the right direction? If Greg and Charles' suggestions do not work, I would grep for it. $ sudo su - $ grep -iIR fanny /etc That should uncover places the old name shows up. Jeff Thanks Jeff. It looks like it came from /etc/mailname.
Re: SMART error messages being sent to the wrong address
On 2023-10-04 03:22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 02:43:36AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] $ sudo su - ...better spelt these days as "sudo -i" (or "sudo -s"), see sudo(1)'s man page. Or sudo bash - or whatever your preferred shell is.
Re: SMART error messages being sent to the wrong address
On 2023-10-03 22:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 09:02:39PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Add a CNAME record to your DNS. Mail delivery is supposed to ignore CNAME records. Perhaps you meant to say an MX record. But either way, the OP's question is still not answered -- where is the recipient address configured? My guess would be "in the system's MTA". I'm guessing the SMART tools are simply sending to "root" with no domain, and relying on the system's MTA to fill in the recipient domain. I'm guessing this MTA is not configured properly. The OP should verify this by running something like: echo test | mailx -s test root And see how the message headers get written, and where the message goes. If it turns out my guesses are right and the MTA is misconfigured, then we'll know the next steps. If it turns out my guesses are wrong, and the MTA is fine, then we'll have to figure out how these SMART tools are configured. Other mail from that server is being sent properly. It's just the SMART messages that are going to the wrong place.
Re: SMART error messages being sent to the wrong address
On 2023-10-03 23:39, Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 20:57:57 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: I can't find where the e-mail address is being set. Tracing down the smartmontools config files didn't turn up any obvious problems. The email address is set with the -m option in the file /etc/smartd.conf. I'd check that to see if you changed it from the default ('root'). And you should be able to set it to what you want. No. The -m option is "root".
SMART error messages being sent to the wrong address
I'm running Debian/Bookworm on a headless server. The box has had a variety of roles and names. At one time it was called fanny after the groundbreaking rock band and because it had a lot of fans in it. This latter attribute led to it being made into a file server and renamed BigData. The problem I'm having is that SMART error messages are being sent to root@fanny. instead of to me. /etc/aliases has all mail to root going to me, but because this addressed to root on a machine with a different name, it goes out and I only get the message when it bounces (because the machine name no longer exists). I can't find where the e-mail address is being set. Tracing down the smartmontools config files didn't turn up any obvious problems. Can anyone point in the right direction? Thanks
wierd document under /run/user/1000 directory
drwxr-xr-x 2 gary gary 120 Aug 20 10:19 akonadi drwx-- 2 gary gary 60 Aug 20 10:19 at-spi srw-rw-rw- 1 gary gary 0 Aug 20 10:18 bus drwx-- 3 gary gary 60 Aug 20 10:18 dbus-1 drwx-- 2 gary gary 60 Aug 20 10:18 dconf *d? ? ? ? ? ? doc* What is with the last entry on the above list.This is the contents of my /run/user/1000 directory. I can't change its characteristics and can't delete it. It is messing up several processes like rsync. Any help will be sincerely appreciated. Gary R.
keybase upgrade / install fails
I'm running Debian/Bookworm on an AMD64 system. For the last two or three weeks I've been getting messages like below when I use apt: The keybase package doesn't seem to configure properly so apt keeps trying, and failing, to finish the package installation. Removing it (not purging) then reinstalling doesn't help. Setting up keybase (6.2.2-20230726175256.4464bfb32d) ... Autorestarting Keybase via systemd for mkdir: cannot stat ‘/keybase’: Transport endpoint is not connected chown: cannot access '/keybase': Transport endpoint is not connected chmod: cannot access '/keybase': Transport endpoint is not connected dpkg:error processing package keybase (--configure): installed keybase package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: keybase E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Any suggestions?
Re: laptop stopped getting to desktop after latest updates [RESOLVED]
On 2023-05-19 23:32, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Bookworm on an ASUS FA506IC laptop. It's got an AMD Ryzen processor but an NVidia graphics card that provides me with great evidence for why I had previously avoided NVidia cards. I'm running Bookworm because I couldn't get it work on Bullseye. It'd been running OK with the proprietary drivers (but not the Nouveau) until earlier today. I don't use it very often so it was probably a few weeks since I last updated it. I had trouble the previous time I'd updated it too, but that was the move to the non-free-firmware section that messed it up. Once I added the new section to the sources, things worked again. The symptoms I'm getting are the same as what it used to display when I tried to use sddm to start the desktop. Gdm3 and lightdm both worked in the past but now I'm getting the same symptom with all of them - a blank screen with a cursor flashing in the top-left corner. At that point I can't even bring up a text console, but I can reboot (ctrl-alt-del still works). I can boot to a recovery mode and start the network, but not sure how to track this down. Removing and reinstalling the NVidia driver didn't help. Trying to start the desktop without the NVidia driver (and firmware) installed also didn't work. I still get the system booting to a blank screen with a flashing cursor in the top let corner. Any ideas? Thanks. I got some time this afternoon to play around with the system. My first effort was to go back to Debian/Bullseye (11.7) and do a fresh install. Surprisingly, it worked this time. I could boot into Gnome without problems. However I had no wifi. Changing to sddm however led to failure to reach a login screen. Installing lightdm let me select Plasma 5 however. This is all with the Nouveau drivers. However the wifi issue needed to be resolved. It turns out there are working (non-free) drivers available but they require a more recent kernel. I added bullseye-backports and installed the newer kernel and firmware-misc-non-free. This led to a failure to reach a login screen (in fact, the boot appears to hang after producing about 4 lines of output but booting to recovery mode let me see that it failed loading the Nouveau drivers). Installing the nvidia-driver allowed the system to reach a graphical login but the system was not very stable. The difference in kernel versions was giving me a lot of errors so I tried to upgrade completely to Bookworm. That got me back to the point I was at when I first posted my original problem. I couldn't get to a working graphical login. This led me back to the Debian site to download the latest Bookworm installer. The RC3 netinst is problematic - it didn't recognize my /home partition as formatted and ended up wiping it out. And when I rebooted into the installed system, it left me at a grub prompt. But when I rebooted and selected the boot partition manually through the BIOS, I was able to boot into the system. I ran update-grub and it's now booting properly. Surprisingly, I was even able to switch to sddm and get into Plasma 5 (Wayland!), all while using the Nouveau drivers. And wifi just worked!
Re: laptop stopped getting to desktop after latest updates
Share with the Debian community the X server logs of "Debian" and "systemrescuecd". Groeten Geert Stappers First is the log from a session that failed. Below is a log from a previous session that worked. Sorry, didn't get one from a systemrescuecd session - I thought I'd copied it to a network share but now I can't find it... [ 15.585] X.Org X Server 1.21.1.7 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 15.585] Current Operating System: Linux Aspect23 6.1.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.27-1 (2023-05-08) x86_64 [ 15.585] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-9-amd64 root=UUID=9562e6ee-0942-46a6-abdd-2e3a1a3a80bb ro quiet [ 15.585] xorg-server 2:21.1.7-3 (https://www.debian.org/support) [ 15.585] Current version of pixman: 0.42.2 [ 15.585] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. [ 15.585] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [ 15.585] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon May 22 12:43:47 2023 [ 15.585] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" [ 15.585] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [ 15.585] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. [ 15.585] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) [ 15.585] (**) | |-->Monitor "" [ 15.585] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". Using a default monitor configuration. [ 15.585] (==) Automatically adding devices [ 15.585] (==) Automatically enabling devices [ 15.585] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices [ 15.585] (==) Automatically binding GPU devices [ 15.585] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1f [ 15.585] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. [ 15.585] Entry deleted from font path. [ 15.585] (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, built-ins [ 15.585] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" [ 15.585] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices. [ 15.585] (II) Loader magic: 0x55b923332f00 [ 15.585] (II) Module ABI versions: [ 15.585] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 [ 15.585] X.Org Video Driver: 25.2 [ 15.585] X.Org XInput driver : 24.4 [ 15.585] X.Org Server Extension : 10.0 [ 15.586] (++) using VT number 7 [ 15.586] (II) systemd-logind: logind integration requires -keeptty and -keeptty was not provided, disabling logind integration [ 15.586] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0) [ 15.586] (II) Platform probe for /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:01.1/:01:00.0/drm/card0 [ 15.589] (--) PCI: (1@0:0:0) 10de:25a2:1043:16ad rev 161, Mem @ 0xfb00/16777216, 0xfe/4294967296, 0xff/33554432, I/O @ 0xf000/128, BIOS @ 0x/524288 [ 15.589] (--) PCI:*(6@0:0:0) 1002:1636:1043:16ad rev 198, Mem @ 0xff1000/268435456, 0xff2000/2097152, 0xfc50/524288, I/O @ 0xd000/256 [ 15.589] (II) LoadModule: "glx" [ 15.589] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so [ 15.590] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 15.590] compiled for 1.21.1.7, module version = 1.0.0 [ 15.590] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 10.0 [ 15.590] (II) Applying OutputClass "nvidia" to /dev/dri/card0 [ 15.590] loading driver: nvidia [ 15.712] (==) Matched nvidia as autoconfigured driver 0 [ 15.712] (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 1 [ 15.712] (==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 2 [ 15.712] (==) Matched ati as autoconfigured driver 3 [ 15.712] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 4 [ 15.712] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 5 [ 15.712] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 6 [ 15.712] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout [ 15.712] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" [ 15.712] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so [ 15.713] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" [ 15.713] compiled for 1.6.99.901, module version = 1.0.0 [ 15.713] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 15.713] (II) LoadModule: "nouveau" [ 15.713] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nouveau_drv.so [ 15.713] (II) Module nouveau: vendor="X.Org Foundation" [ 15.713] compiled for 1.21.1.3, module version = 1.0.17 [ 15.713] Module class: X.Org Video Driver [ 15.713] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2 [ 15.713] (II) LoadModule: "nv" [ 15.713]
Re: laptop stopped getting to desktop after latest updates
On 2023-05-19 23:32, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Bookworm on an ASUS FA506IC laptop. It's got an AMD Ryzen processor but an NVidia graphics card that provides me with great evidence for why I had previously avoided NVidia cards. I'm running Bookworm because I couldn't get it work on Bullseye. It'd been running OK with the proprietary drivers (but not the Nouveau) until earlier today. I don't use it very often so it was probably a few weeks since I last updated it. I had trouble the previous time I'd updated it too, but that was the move to the non-free-firmware section that messed it up. Once I added the new section to the sources, things worked again. The symptoms I'm getting are the same as what it used to display when I tried to use sddm to start the desktop. Gdm3 and lightdm both worked in the past but now I'm getting the same symptom with all of them - a blank screen with a cursor flashing in the top-left corner. At that point I can't even bring up a text console, but I can reboot (ctrl-alt-del still works). I can boot to a recovery mode and start the network, but not sure how to track this down. Removing and reinstalling the NVidia driver didn't help. Trying to start the desktop without the NVidia driver (and firmware) installed also didn't work. I still get the system booting to a blank screen with a flashing cursor in the top let corner. Any ideas? Thanks. Further to above, I purged the nVidia drivers then noticed that there was still some nVidia stuff left (e.g. nvidia-persistence) so I did a further purge. When I rebooted, the system stalled initially after a couple of ACPI errors (there were only those lines on the screen - it was barely starting) but a ctrl-alt-del later and it got all the way to starting the nouveau drivers before stalling. I reinstalled the nVidia drivers and was back to the same problem. Rebooting to recovery mode and checking the journal for the previous boot, there were a string of errors relating to lightdm failing to start, followed by retry and the same error. I purged lightdm, rebooted and re-installed it but got the same errors. I don't believe this is a problem with lightdm because it is also happening with gdm3 and sddm. The only difference is that its been happening with sddm since I got the laptop last November whereas the problem with lightdm and gdm3 is much more recent. I can run the system with the Nouveau drivers when booting from systemrescuecd (a couple of recent versions, including 10.0), so this is a Debian issue.
laptop stopped getting to desktop after latest updates
I'm running Debian/Bookworm on an ASUS FA506IC laptop. It's got an AMD Ryzen processor but an NVidia graphics card that provides me with great evidence for why I had previously avoided NVidia cards. I'm running Bookworm because I couldn't get it work on Bullseye. It'd been running OK with the proprietary drivers (but not the Nouveau) until earlier today. I don't use it very often so it was probably a few weeks since I last updated it. I had trouble the previous time I'd updated it too, but that was the move to the non-free-firmware section that messed it up. Once I added the new section to the sources, things worked again. The symptoms I'm getting are the same as what it used to display when I tried to use sddm to start the desktop. Gdm3 and lightdm both worked in the past but now I'm getting the same symptom with all of them - a blank screen with a cursor flashing in the top-left corner. At that point I can't even bring up a text console, but I can reboot (ctrl-alt-del still works). I can boot to a recovery mode and start the network, but not sure how to track this down. Removing and reinstalling the NVidia driver didn't help. Trying to start the desktop without the NVidia driver (and firmware) installed also didn't work. I still get the system booting to a blank screen with a flashing cursor in the top let corner. Any ideas? Thanks.
Re: WiFi firmware issue in Bookworm
On 2023-02-09 22:09, The Wanderer wrote: On 2023-02-09 at 21:39, Gary Dale wrote: I'm trying to use a Linksys AE1200 wifi usb dongle as a second network connection for my Bookworm workstation. The device shows up in lsusb but not in ip link. According to what I've found, it needs the brcmfmac driver module, which seems to be in the 6.1 kernel and loaded: $ lsmod | grep brcmfmac brcmfmac 360448 0 brcmutil 20480 1 brcmfmac cfg80211 1122304 1 brcmfmac mmc_core 208896 1 brcmfmac usbcore 344064 10 xhci_hcd,snd_usb_audio,usbhid,snd_usbmidi_lib,usblp,usb_storage,uvcvideo,brcmfmac,xhci_pci,uas I'm using KDE/Plasma as my desktop and plasma-nm is loaded. However it too doesn't seem to think that there is a wifi network. Interestingly the device works in Bullseye as I installed Bullseye on the computer that used to use it. That really only required downloading the correct firmware package that contained the brcmfmac module. That package no longer exists in Bookworm. Would that be firmware-brcm80211? That still exists in bookworm; it's just been moved to the new non-free-firmware component, so it won't be showing up if your sources.list doesn't reference that component (in addition to e.g. main, contrib, and/or non-free). There was another thread on this mailing list just within the past day that asked a similar question regarding another firmware package, and the replies to that question include links to the announcements about the new component. Thanks. That points then to a problem with the package.debian.org page - it doesn't seem to search the new section. I found the announcement when I searched for debian non-free firmware. Right now if you don't know it exists, you can't find it. :(
Re: WiFi firmware issue in Bookworm
On 2023-02-09 22:07, piorunz wrote: On 10/02/2023 02:39, Gary Dale wrote: Interestingly the device works in Bullseye as I installed Bullseye on the computer that used to use it. That really only required downloading the correct firmware package that contained the brcmfmac module. That package no longer exists in Bookworm. All you need to do, is to search for package, it may have different name under Bookworm. dmesg give you file name you want: [ 176.573530] usb 1-3.1: firmware: failed to load brcm/brcmfmac43236b.bin (-2) apt-file search brcmfmac43236b.bin firmware-brcm80211: /lib/firmware/brcm/brcmfmac43236b.bin Install package firmware-brcm80211. As I identified, that package doesn't exist in Bookworm: # apt install firmware-brcm80211 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package firmware-brcm80211
WiFi firmware issue in Bookworm
I'm trying to use a Linksys AE1200 wifi usb dongle as a second network connection for my Bookworm workstation. The device shows up in lsusb but not in ip link. According to what I've found, it needs the brcmfmac driver module, which seems to be in the 6.1 kernel and loaded: $ lsmod | grep brcmfmac brcmfmac 360448 0 brcmutil 20480 1 brcmfmac cfg80211 1122304 1 brcmfmac mmc_core 208896 1 brcmfmac usbcore 344064 10 xhci_hcd,snd_usb_audio,usbhid,snd_usbmidi_lib,usblp,usb_storage,uvcvideo,brcmfmac,xhci_pci,uas I'm using KDE/Plasma as my desktop and plasma-nm is loaded. However it too doesn't seem to think that there is a wifi network. Interestingly the device works in Bullseye as I installed Bullseye on the computer that used to use it. That really only required downloading the correct firmware package that contained the brcmfmac module. That package no longer exists in Bookworm. Dmesg reveals the problem: [ 176.393749] usb 1-3.1: new high-speed USB device number 6 using xhci_hcd [ 176.546464] usb 1-3.1: New USB device found, idVendor=13b1, idProduct=0039, bcdDevice= 0.01 [ 176.546467] usb 1-3.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [ 176.546469] usb 1-3.1: Product: Linksys AE1200 [ 176.546470] usb 1-3.1: Manufacturer: Cisco [ 176.546470] usb 1-3.1: SerialNumber: 0001 [ 176.573466] brcmfmac: brcmf_fw_alloc_request: using brcm/brcmfmac43236b for chip BCM43235/3 [ 176.573530] usb 1-3.1: firmware: failed to load brcm/brcmfmac43236b.bin (-2) [ 176.573535] usb 1-3.1: firmware: failed to load brcm/brcmfmac43236b.bin (-2) [ 176.573537] usb 1-3.1: Direct firmware load for brcm/brcmfmac43236b.bin failed with error -2 [ 458.854083] usb 1-3.1: USB disconnect, device number 6 [ 464.232185] usb 1-3.1: new high-speed USB device number 7 using xhci_hcd [ 464.392635] usb 1-3.1: New USB device found, idVendor=13b1, idProduct=0039, bcdDevice= 0.01 [ 464.392642] usb 1-3.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [ 464.392644] usb 1-3.1: Product: Linksys AE1200 [ 464.392645] usb 1-3.1: Manufacturer: Cisco [ 464.392646] usb 1-3.1: SerialNumber: 0001 [ 464.422271] brcmfmac: brcmf_fw_alloc_request: using brcm/brcmfmac43236b for chip BCM43235/3 [ 464.422449] usb 1-3.1: firmware: failed to load brcm/brcmfmac43236b.bin (-2) [ 464.422462] usb 1-3.1: firmware: failed to load brcm/brcmfmac43236b.bin (-2) [ 464.422465] usb 1-3.1: Direct firmware load for brcm/brcmfmac43236b.bin failed with error -2 Apparently the firmware isn't loading. Any ideas on how to fix this?
Re: support for ASUS AC1200 USB-AC53 Nano wifi dongle
On 2023-02-08 10:55, Gary Dale wrote: On 2023-02-08 09:07, Gary Dale wrote: On 2023-02-08 00:55, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 08.02.2023 09:07, Gary Dale wrote: I thought this would be easier than it's turned out to be. There are Internet posts going back years about support for this device but nothing recent - including a 5 year old Ubuntu post saying it works. Other wifi devices seem to be recognized out of the box or with a simple install of non-free firmware but not this one - at least not in Bullseye or Bookworm. The adapter itself seems to be quite popular so I'm hoping someone can provide some clues on how to make it work Thanks. Your device should be based on "RTL8822B" chip from Realtek, so you need to install "firmware-realtek" package. If after doing that you still didn't get a functioning network wifi adapter you might need to build driver kernel module. [1] This is what I had to do to get USB Bluetooth adapter from Asus to work without issues, even though it is supported by kernel in "bullseye". It is always the best to include extra information about your setup when you asking for help. At least output from these commands would be a start: $ uname -a $ lsusb -v -t # journalctl -b 0 --no-pager | grep -iE "rtl|rtk_|firmware" If the output is long you can use "paste" service [2] and send us a link. [1] https://www.asus.com/ca-en/networking-iot-servers/adapters/all-series/usb-ac53-nano/helpdesk_download/?model2Name=USB-AC53-Nano [2] https://paste.debian.net/ -- Thanks Alexander, but installing firmware-realtek doesn't work. It was the first thing I tried. Secondly, the ASUS driver fails to compile under Bullseye & later. It throws an error: 1.5_33902.20190604_COEX20180928-6a6a/include/rtw_security.h:255:8: error: redefinition of ‘struct sha256_state’ 255 | struct sha256_state { | ^~~~ This is the same error I find in various drivers from GitHub. They all seem to be for older kernels and no longer compile. The fact that drivers have existed for so long was one reason I thought the device should be reasonably supported by now. I had considered posting the output of lsusb but it simply shows that the device is recognized. Making it verbose returns a lot of capabilities information but not much else. Here it is: /: Bus 06.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 5000M ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub /: Bus 05.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 480M ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub |__ Port 1: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Vendor Specific Class, Driver=, 480M ID 0b05:184c ASUSTek Computer, Inc. /: Bus 04.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/2p, 1M ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub |__ Port 2: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=uas, 5000M ID 0080:a001 Unknown JMS578 based SATA bridge /: Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/2p, 480M ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub /: Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/8p, 1M ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub /: Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/14p, 480M ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub |__ Port 13: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=usb-storage, 480M ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader The journalctl command returns nothing. Found a github repository that compiles on Bullseye at https://github.com/morrownr/88x2bu. Then it's a matter of doing the following as root git clone https://github.com/morrownr/88x2bu-20210702## date string may different cd 88x2bu-20210702 make clean make make install then rebooting. The wifi dongle now shows in "ip addr". Had the wrong git command - now corrected above. Ended up having another issue after I got it installed (on a friend's machine that had been running Windows 7 badly but is now running Bullseye nicely). Their residence doesn't use a WiFi password, so I thought the device should just connect. Turns out there was a device fingerprinting system in place that worked with an annual voucher number you had to enter to connect to the Internet. Once I got the number, things worked perfectly.
Re: support for ASUS AC1200 USB-AC53 Nano wifi dongle
On 2023-02-09 03:30, Anssi Saari wrote: Gary Dale writes: I thought this would be easier than it's turned out to be. There are Internet posts going back years about support for this device but nothing recent - including a 5 year old Ubuntu post saying it works. Other wifi devices seem to be recognized out of the box or with a simple install of non-free firmware but not this one - at least not in Bullseye or Bookworm. Hm. What I found was the driver has been integrated in kernel 6.2 and if you need to build it for an older kernel, then they're supported too. Versions 5.12-6.2 have community support and 4.19-5.11 are supported by Realtek. I don't know what that means exactly though. Source: https://github.com/morrownr/88x2bu-20210702 I can try to build this with Debian's stable 5.10 kernel at some point but I don't have the hardware. Thanks. Found that github repo myself. I hope you are right about 6.2 integration, but I'm not sure we'll get there with Bookworm...
Re: support for ASUS AC1200 USB-AC53 Nano wifi dongle
On 2023-02-08 09:07, Gary Dale wrote: On 2023-02-08 00:55, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 08.02.2023 09:07, Gary Dale wrote: I thought this would be easier than it's turned out to be. There are Internet posts going back years about support for this device but nothing recent - including a 5 year old Ubuntu post saying it works. Other wifi devices seem to be recognized out of the box or with a simple install of non-free firmware but not this one - at least not in Bullseye or Bookworm. The adapter itself seems to be quite popular so I'm hoping someone can provide some clues on how to make it work Thanks. Your device should be based on "RTL8822B" chip from Realtek, so you need to install "firmware-realtek" package. If after doing that you still didn't get a functioning network wifi adapter you might need to build driver kernel module. [1] This is what I had to do to get USB Bluetooth adapter from Asus to work without issues, even though it is supported by kernel in "bullseye". It is always the best to include extra information about your setup when you asking for help. At least output from these commands would be a start: $ uname -a $ lsusb -v -t # journalctl -b 0 --no-pager | grep -iE "rtl|rtk_|firmware" If the output is long you can use "paste" service [2] and send us a link. [1] https://www.asus.com/ca-en/networking-iot-servers/adapters/all-series/usb-ac53-nano/helpdesk_download/?model2Name=USB-AC53-Nano [2] https://paste.debian.net/ -- Thanks Alexander, but installing firmware-realtek doesn't work. It was the first thing I tried. Secondly, the ASUS driver fails to compile under Bullseye & later. It throws an error: 1.5_33902.20190604_COEX20180928-6a6a/include/rtw_security.h:255:8: error: redefinition of ‘struct sha256_state’ 255 | struct sha256_state { | ^~~~ This is the same error I find in various drivers from GitHub. They all seem to be for older kernels and no longer compile. The fact that drivers have existed for so long was one reason I thought the device should be reasonably supported by now. I had considered posting the output of lsusb but it simply shows that the device is recognized. Making it verbose returns a lot of capabilities information but not much else. Here it is: /: Bus 06.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 5000M ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub /: Bus 05.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 480M ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub |__ Port 1: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Vendor Specific Class, Driver=, 480M ID 0b05:184c ASUSTek Computer, Inc. /: Bus 04.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/2p, 1M ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub |__ Port 2: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=uas, 5000M ID 0080:a001 Unknown JMS578 based SATA bridge /: Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/2p, 480M ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub /: Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/8p, 1M ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub /: Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/14p, 480M ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub |__ Port 13: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=usb-storage, 480M ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader The journalctl command returns nothing. Found a github repository that compiles on Bullseye at https://github.com/morrownr/88x2bu. Then it's a matter of doing the following as root git clone https://github.com/morrownr/88x2bu cd 88x2bu-20210702 ## date string may different make clean make make install then rebooting. The wifi dongle now shows in "ip addr".
Re: support for ASUS AC1200 USB-AC53 Nano wifi dongle
On 2023-02-08 00:55, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 08.02.2023 09:07, Gary Dale wrote: I thought this would be easier than it's turned out to be. There are Internet posts going back years about support for this device but nothing recent - including a 5 year old Ubuntu post saying it works. Other wifi devices seem to be recognized out of the box or with a simple install of non-free firmware but not this one - at least not in Bullseye or Bookworm. The adapter itself seems to be quite popular so I'm hoping someone can provide some clues on how to make it work Thanks. Your device should be based on "RTL8822B" chip from Realtek, so you need to install "firmware-realtek" package. If after doing that you still didn't get a functioning network wifi adapter you might need to build driver kernel module. [1] This is what I had to do to get USB Bluetooth adapter from Asus to work without issues, even though it is supported by kernel in "bullseye". It is always the best to include extra information about your setup when you asking for help. At least output from these commands would be a start: $ uname -a $ lsusb -v -t # journalctl -b 0 --no-pager | grep -iE "rtl|rtk_|firmware" If the output is long you can use "paste" service [2] and send us a link. [1] https://www.asus.com/ca-en/networking-iot-servers/adapters/all-series/usb-ac53-nano/helpdesk_download/?model2Name=USB-AC53-Nano [2] https://paste.debian.net/ -- Thanks Alexander, but installing firmware-realtek doesn't work. It was the first thing I tried. Secondly, the ASUS driver fails to compile under Bullseye & later. It throws an error: 1.5_33902.20190604_COEX20180928-6a6a/include/rtw_security.h:255:8: error: redefinition of ‘struct sha256_state’ 255 | struct sha256_state { | ^~~~ This is the same error I find in various drivers from GitHub. They all seem to be for older kernels and no longer compile. The fact that drivers have existed for so long was one reason I thought the device should be reasonably supported by now. I had considered posting the output of lsusb but it simply shows that the device is recognized. Making it verbose returns a lot of capabilities information but not much else. Here it is: /: Bus 06.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 5000M ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub /: Bus 05.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 480M ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub |__ Port 1: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Vendor Specific Class, Driver=, 480M ID 0b05:184c ASUSTek Computer, Inc. /: Bus 04.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/2p, 1M ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub |__ Port 2: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=uas, 5000M ID 0080:a001 Unknown JMS578 based SATA bridge /: Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/2p, 480M ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub /: Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/8p, 1M ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub /: Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/14p, 480M ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub |__ Port 13: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=usb-storage, 480M ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader The journalctl command returns nothing.
support for ASUS AC1200 USB-AC53 Nano wifi dongle
I thought this would be easier than it's turned out to be. There are Internet posts going back years about support for this device but nothing recent - including a 5 year old Ubuntu post saying it works. Other wifi devices seem to be recognized out of the box or with a simple install of non-free firmware but not this one - at least not in Bullseye or Bookworm. The adapter itself seems to be quite popular so I'm hoping someone can provide some clues on how to make it work Thanks.
Re: Installation of Salome 9.9.0
Sorry that I didn't catch that one. I just ripped the whole thing out and am going to go to Code_Aster and try to install Salome-Meca. This is probably what I should have done in the first place. Sorry if wasted your time. Thanks for the help. Gary R. On 1/14/23 16:46, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 03:54:22PM -0800, Gary L. Roach wrote: PS I had tried ./salome and got the following error: ERROR:salomeContext:Unexpected error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/gary/Salome/SALOME-9.9.0-native-DB10-SRC/BINARIES-DB10/SALOME/bin/ salome/salomeContext.py", line 281, in _startSalome res = getattr(self, command)(options) # run appropriate method That looks wrong. In your prior message you said you're on Debian 11. On the download page <https://www.salome-platform.org/?page_id=15> there are links for Debian 11, Debian 10 and Debian 9. The Debian 11 link has "DB11" in it; the Debian 10 link has "DB10" and the Debian 9 link has "DB09". Are you sure you downloaded the correct one for your version of Debian? Again, this is the part where telling us the URL you downloaded, and showing us the downloaded file with ls -l, would be useful.
Re: Installation of Salome 9.9.0
PS I had tried ./salome and got the following error: ERROR:salomeContext:Unexpected error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/home/gary/Salome/SALOME-9.9.0-native-DB10-SRC/BINARIES-DB10/SALOME/bin/ salome/salomeContext.py", line 281, in _startSalome res = getattr(self, command)(options) # run appropriate method File "/home/gary/Salome/SALOME-9.9.0-native-DB10-SRC/BINARIES-DB10/SALOME/bin/ salome/salomeContext.py", line 368, in _sessionless import setenv File "/home/gary/Salome/SALOME-9.9.0-native-DB10-SRC/BINARIES-DB10/KERNEL/bin/ salome/setenv.py", line 26, in import orbmodule File "/home/gary/Salome/SALOME-9.9.0-native-DB10-SRC/BINARIES-DB10/KERNEL/bin/ salome/orbmodule.py", line 31, in from omniORB import CORBA File "/home/gary/Salome/SALOME-9.9.0-native-DB10-SRC/BINARIES-DB10/omniORB/lib /python3.7/site-packages/omniORB/__init__.py", line 44, in import _omnipy ModuleNotFoundError: No module named '_omnipy' I guess I need to chase down the origin of the _omnipy module. Gary R On 1/14/23 14:04, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 09:12:06PM +,debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: There is: https://docs.salome-platform.org/latest/dev/cmake/html/index.html Which I suppose is what Gary was referring to? Hmm... maybe. Of course that's on a separate hostname. With a bit more digging, I also found, from the main page of the Salome project: Resources -> FAQ ->https://www.salome-platform.org/?page_id=428 This has the following instructions: 4. How to install SALOME on linux ? First, download SALOME for your specific operating system version. If your OS is not supported, you can use the “universal version”. Extract the archive. Then, check that the dependancies are installed on your OS: ./sat config SALOME-9.8.0 --check_system Check that your graphic card is well configured for 3D rendering. Then launch SALOME with: ./salome More information is available in the README file. You may need Javascript enabled to read these instructions. The whole web page is stupidly fancy, with moving crap everywhere, instead of just presenting information sanely. Do note that the current release is apparently 9.9.0 rather than 9.8.0, so I imagine that ./sat command might need a small adjustment.
Re: Installation of Salome 9.9.0
The lack of information is because I never got off the ground with this. I did finally figured out how to get ./sat to work and completely cleaned up all of the missing pieces. But then I am a loss of what to do next. My top Salome directory looks like this: drwxr-xr-x 2 gary gary 4096 Jan 11 12:41 ARCHIVES drwxr-xr-x 73 gary gary 4096 Jan 11 12:41 BINARIES-DB10 -rwxr-xr-x 1 gary gary 55590 May 31 2022 binsalome -rwxr-xr-x 1 gary gary 44642 May 31 2022 env_launch.sh drwxr-xr-x 73 gary gary 4096 Jan 11 16:31 INSTALL -rwxr-xr-x 1 gary gary 866 May 31 2022 install_bin.sh drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 4096 Jan 14 15:07 LOGS -rw-r--r-- 1 gary gary 2765865 May 31 2022 logs.tgz -rwxr-xr-x 1 gary gary 56232 May 31 2022 mesa_salome drwxr-xr-x 4 gary gary 4096 May 31 2022 PROJECT -rw-r--r-- 1 gary gary 5242 May 31 2022 README -rwxr-xr-x 1 gary gary 55587 May 31 2022 salome -rw-r--r-- 1 gary gary 711820 May 30 2022 SALOME_9_9_0_Release_Notes.pdf drwxr-xr-x 9 gary gary 4096 May 31 2022 sat drwxr-xr-x 3 gary gary 4096 Jan 11 12:40 SOURCES I have no idea what to do with this. I'm using a standard debian 11 installation with KDE desk top if that helps. Gary R. On 1/14/23 13:12, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 12:20:21PM -0800, Gary L. Roach wrote: Hi all, I have been trying to install Salome 9.90 from the tar.gz file. When I unzip the file the contents look nothing like the installation instructions that I have found on line. Does anyone have experience with the Debian installation of this package. If so, please help Gary, it would be helpful if you gave references for all your statements, rather than have Greg and me and whoever else guessing what you may have or have not done. Especially more detail about what problems you've found. I assume you mean the thing found at <https://www.salome-platform.org/?p=2176>. Good luck with this. I can't find installation instructions anywhere on this web site. There's a 30-page PDF of "release notes", but guess what's not in it. That's right -- no installation instructions in it. There are, however, 4 pages of prerequisites that this thing apparently needs. Sounds like a real party. There is: https://docs.salome-platform.org/latest/dev/cmake/html/index.html Which I suppose is what Gary was referring to? Seems like a potentially useful project. I'll be interested to see how it goes.
Installation of Salome 9.9.0
Hi all, I have been trying to install Salome 9.90 from the tar.gz file. When I unzip the file the contents look nothing like the installation instructions that I have found on line. Does anyone have experience with the Debian installation of this package. If so, please help Gary R.
Re: latest testing update broke my laptop
On 2022-12-19 23:38, Gary Dale wrote: On 2022-12-18 00:53, David Christensen wrote: On 12/17/22 13:00, Gary Dale wrote: On 2022-12-17 14:39, David Christensen wrote: On 12/17/22 04:44, Gary Dale wrote: On 2022-12-16 21:29, Gary Dale wrote: My laptop no longer boots thanks to the latest update. If you want a GNU/Linux distribution that "just works", one possibility is Debian Stable and "supported hardware". The former is easy -- download a d-i ISO. The latter can be anywhere from trivial to impossible to determine a priori; the practical answer is install and find out. What is the manufacturer, model, and part number of your computer? What options does it have? What components have you added, changed, or removed? What external hardware is connected? Do you have a broadband Internet connection? What d-i media did you use? Where did you get it? Did you verify the checksum of the download and/or media? Thanks David, but as I explained, Debian/Stable doesn't "just work". You need the second part of your condition, but it's hard to know if hardware is supported until you try it. And what doesn't work one week may work the next. I don't blame Debian in this case. It's clearly an nVidia problem. Normally I stay away from them when getting something for Linux, but I got a great Black Friday deal. That's why I even got a new laptop to begin with. Apart from the nVidia components, it seems to work fine. Added nothing - just removed the Windows partitions and installed Linux. As I explained, I used Debian netinst copied to a Ventoy USB. What was strange is that Stable has no problem installing (just problems running) but Testing seems to get hung up with the networking (when I tried a graphical install, it at least showed that was what it was doing. The text based installer flashed something on the screen but never got around to doing more than the background colours - no text or progress bar - so I wasn't sure what it was doing). Also the current testing alpha netinst iso doesn't seem work with Ventoy, which meant I had to dd it to its own usb stick. And yes, I only download the files from debian.org. Have you tried finding the Debian Testing netinst checksums? You can find them for the weekly builds if you look hard enough but not the ones for the Alpha release. I thought maybe the alpha release would be a little more stable than a weekly build I can confirm that the problem with FAT32 was fixed by a reboot. I don't reboot every day normally, The laptop is an ASUS FA506ICB. I'll be filing a bug report or three later. Yesterday I just needed to get it working again, but I wanted to document the pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth - I suspect I may have to do this again... STFW "ASUS FA506ICB linux" I am not seeing any promising hits. I would re-install Windows, run Debian Stable in a VM, STFW periodically, wait for a post by someone who succeeds running a GNU/Linux distribution on that machine, and try again. David You didn't read what I wrote. I've actually got it running quite well. The only thing is that it seems to need the proprietary nVidia drivers - the Nouveau ones won't cut it. Also, there seems to be an issue with sddm - gdm3 and lightdm both work. I can recommend the laptop as a reasonable candidate for Linux. Apart from the need for proprietary drivers, which is something I blame nVidia for, it seems to work perfectly. Actually, there is something else that doesn't work that doesn't bother me too much - the usb-c port doesn't work.
Re: latest testing update broke my laptop
On 2022-12-20 04:16, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 23:33:19 -0500 Gary Dale wrote: Hello Gary, you need to start with Debian/Stable then upgrade That's not correct. You *can* do it that way, but there are installer ISOs for testing. Not with this laptop. The Debian/Testing installer failed. I can't guarantee that they will always fail, but in this case, it wasn't working. I suspect it is the combination of AMD + nVidia that is the culprit. The Stable installer works (runs to completion) but the Testing one fails.
Re: latest testing update broke my laptop
On 2022-12-18 00:53, David Christensen wrote: On 12/17/22 13:00, Gary Dale wrote: On 2022-12-17 14:39, David Christensen wrote: On 12/17/22 04:44, Gary Dale wrote: On 2022-12-16 21:29, Gary Dale wrote: My laptop no longer boots thanks to the latest update. If you want a GNU/Linux distribution that "just works", one possibility is Debian Stable and "supported hardware". The former is easy -- download a d-i ISO. The latter can be anywhere from trivial to impossible to determine a priori; the practical answer is install and find out. What is the manufacturer, model, and part number of your computer? What options does it have? What components have you added, changed, or removed? What external hardware is connected? Do you have a broadband Internet connection? What d-i media did you use? Where did you get it? Did you verify the checksum of the download and/or media? Thanks David, but as I explained, Debian/Stable doesn't "just work". You need the second part of your condition, but it's hard to know if hardware is supported until you try it. And what doesn't work one week may work the next. I don't blame Debian in this case. It's clearly an nVidia problem. Normally I stay away from them when getting something for Linux, but I got a great Black Friday deal. That's why I even got a new laptop to begin with. Apart from the nVidia components, it seems to work fine. Added nothing - just removed the Windows partitions and installed Linux. As I explained, I used Debian netinst copied to a Ventoy USB. What was strange is that Stable has no problem installing (just problems running) but Testing seems to get hung up with the networking (when I tried a graphical install, it at least showed that was what it was doing. The text based installer flashed something on the screen but never got around to doing more than the background colours - no text or progress bar - so I wasn't sure what it was doing). Also the current testing alpha netinst iso doesn't seem work with Ventoy, which meant I had to dd it to its own usb stick. And yes, I only download the files from debian.org. Have you tried finding the Debian Testing netinst checksums? You can find them for the weekly builds if you look hard enough but not the ones for the Alpha release. I thought maybe the alpha release would be a little more stable than a weekly build I can confirm that the problem with FAT32 was fixed by a reboot. I don't reboot every day normally, The laptop is an ASUS FA506ICB. I'll be filing a bug report or three later. Yesterday I just needed to get it working again, but I wanted to document the pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth - I suspect I may have to do this again... STFW "ASUS FA506ICB linux" I am not seeing any promising hits. I would re-install Windows, run Debian Stable in a VM, STFW periodically, wait for a post by someone who succeeds running a GNU/Linux distribution on that machine, and try again. David You didn't read what I wrote. I've actually got it running quite well. The only thing is that it seems to need the proprietary nVidia drivers - the Nouveau ones won't cut it. Also, there seems to be an issue with sddm - gdm3 and lightdm both work. I can recommend the laptop as a reasonable candidate for Linux. Apart from the need for proprietary drivers, which is something I blame nVidia for, it seems to work perfectly.
Re: latest testing update broke my laptop
On 2022-12-17 23:10, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 17 December 2022 9:00:49 pm UTC, Gary Dale wrote: On 2022-12-17 14:39, David Christensen wrote: On 12/17/22 04:44, Gary Dale wrote: On 2022-12-16 21:29, Gary Dale wrote: My laptop no longer boots thanks to the latest update. It stops after I select a normal boot - it goes to the text mode console and displays an error message about: [ 0.717939] ACPI BIOS Error (bug). If I go into recovery mode, I don't get that error but then it stops after a message about the nouveau driver. I never get to a command prompt. I can boot from System Rescus CD. I get the same BIOS error message but then it continues on as if it wasn't important. I tried updating the BIOS but that did nothing to resolve the problem. I did a reinstall and the problem survives. The problem actually started earlier in the day, when I did the apt full-upgrade. It updated the nvidia drivers so it wanted a reboot. When I rebooted, it refused to start sddm. It just sat there. I rebooted into recovery mode and changed to lightdm, which did the same thing. Gdm3 actually switched into a graphics mode before hanging. I purged the nvidia drivers and that was when the message cropped up. I tried booting from system rescue cd then switching into a bash shell on my / partition but lost my DNS so I couldn't (re) install the nouveau drivers (didn't want to touch the nvidia ones again). I did try updating initramfs, in case there was some nvidia stuff hanging around but it didn't help. That led to me reinstalling. I copied the Bookworm netinst to my Ventoy USB stick, but it wouldn't boot so I went back to Bullseye - which installed but wouldn't bring up a GUI. Booted to recovery mode, brought up the network and upgraded to Bookworm. That is where I am now - with the error message appearing after I leave the boot menu. This is basically clean install - just done in two parts. My laptop had been running fine since I got it and installed Debian. I couldn't get the Bookworm alpha install to work even when dd'd directly to a USB stick. However I was able to get to a recovery mode from the Bullseye install on Ventoy. From there I added the nVidia drivers and that got me past the error message. I was able to eventually get to a recovery session from the installation on the laptop. Sddm simply refused to work while gdm3 only seems to give me a Gnome desktop. After installing lightdm, I was able to get back to a Plasma desktop. Along the way, I found that my (Debian/Bookworm) workstation wont read USB sticks formatted with FAT32! I'm hoping a reboot later will fix that. Anyway, sddm seems to have some real problems with nVidia drivers. My laptop on the other hand seems to need them even though non-Bookworm distros don't. If you want a GNU/Linux distribution that "just works", one possibility is Debian Stable and "supported hardware". The former is easy -- download a d-i ISO. The latter can be anywhere from trivial to impossible to determine a priori; the practical answer is install and find out. What is the manufacturer, model, and part number of your computer? What options does it have? What components have you added, changed, or removed? What external hardware is connected? Do you have a broadband Internet connection? What d-i media did you use? Where did you get it? Did you verify the checksum of the download and/or media? David Thanks David, but as I explained, Debian/Stable doesn't "just work". You need the second part of your condition, but it's hard to know if hardware is supported until you try it. And what doesn't work one week may work the next. I don't blame Debian in this case. It's clearly an nVidia problem. Normally I stay away from them when getting something for Linux, but I got a great Black Friday deal. That's why I even got a new laptop to begin with. Apart from the nVidia components, it seems to work fine. Added nothing - just removed the Windows partitions and installed Linux. As I explained, I used Debian netinst copied to a Ventoy USB. What was strange is that Stable has no problem installing (just problems running) but Testing seems to get hung up with the networking (when I tried a graphical install, it at least showed that was what it was doing. The text based installer flashed something on the screen but never got around to doing more than the background colours - no text or progress bar - so I wasn't sure what it was doing). Also the current testing alpha netinst iso doesn't seem work with Ventoy, which meant I had to dd it to its own usb stick. And yes, I only download the files from debian.org. Have you tried finding the Debian Testing netinst checksums? You can find them for the weekly builds if you look hard enough but not the ones for the Alpha release. I thought maybe the alpha release would be a little more stable than a weekly build I can confirm that th
Re: latest testing update broke my laptop
On 2022-12-17 14:58, Charles Curley wrote: On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 11:39:51 -0800 David Christensen wrote: … the practical answer is install and find out. There are other ways besides "install[ing] and find[ing] out". https://linux-hardware.org is a very useful tool. And one should consider contributing as well. "apt show hwinfo". Another way is to stick with known reliable vendors and product lines. I've had excellent results with IBM/Lenovo products, except for some dicey results with one Yoga laptop. For IBM/Lenovo computers, there is the thinkwiki. https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki A good bit of advice is, avoid bleeding edge hardware unless you want to help Linux to support it. And prices are lower for older or factory refurbished hardware. I've been hearing some negative things about Lenovo for several years now although I agree that IBM was a good bet. But even back then it wasn't always a slam dunk. I normally stick with AMD hardware but in this case ASUS decided to pair AMD with nVidia, I'd planned to just use the Nouveau drivers but that turned out to be a non-starter. :(
Re: latest testing update broke my laptop
On 2022-12-17 14:39, David Christensen wrote: On 12/17/22 04:44, Gary Dale wrote: On 2022-12-16 21:29, Gary Dale wrote: My laptop no longer boots thanks to the latest update. It stops after I select a normal boot - it goes to the text mode console and displays an error message about: [ 0.717939] ACPI BIOS Error (bug). If I go into recovery mode, I don't get that error but then it stops after a message about the nouveau driver. I never get to a command prompt. I can boot from System Rescus CD. I get the same BIOS error message but then it continues on as if it wasn't important. I tried updating the BIOS but that did nothing to resolve the problem. I did a reinstall and the problem survives. The problem actually started earlier in the day, when I did the apt full-upgrade. It updated the nvidia drivers so it wanted a reboot. When I rebooted, it refused to start sddm. It just sat there. I rebooted into recovery mode and changed to lightdm, which did the same thing. Gdm3 actually switched into a graphics mode before hanging. I purged the nvidia drivers and that was when the message cropped up. I tried booting from system rescue cd then switching into a bash shell on my / partition but lost my DNS so I couldn't (re) install the nouveau drivers (didn't want to touch the nvidia ones again). I did try updating initramfs, in case there was some nvidia stuff hanging around but it didn't help. That led to me reinstalling. I copied the Bookworm netinst to my Ventoy USB stick, but it wouldn't boot so I went back to Bullseye - which installed but wouldn't bring up a GUI. Booted to recovery mode, brought up the network and upgraded to Bookworm. That is where I am now - with the error message appearing after I leave the boot menu. This is basically clean install - just done in two parts. My laptop had been running fine since I got it and installed Debian. I couldn't get the Bookworm alpha install to work even when dd'd directly to a USB stick. However I was able to get to a recovery mode from the Bullseye install on Ventoy. From there I added the nVidia drivers and that got me past the error message. I was able to eventually get to a recovery session from the installation on the laptop. Sddm simply refused to work while gdm3 only seems to give me a Gnome desktop. After installing lightdm, I was able to get back to a Plasma desktop. Along the way, I found that my (Debian/Bookworm) workstation wont read USB sticks formatted with FAT32! I'm hoping a reboot later will fix that. Anyway, sddm seems to have some real problems with nVidia drivers. My laptop on the other hand seems to need them even though non-Bookworm distros don't. If you want a GNU/Linux distribution that "just works", one possibility is Debian Stable and "supported hardware". The former is easy -- download a d-i ISO. The latter can be anywhere from trivial to impossible to determine a priori; the practical answer is install and find out. What is the manufacturer, model, and part number of your computer? What options does it have? What components have you added, changed, or removed? What external hardware is connected? Do you have a broadband Internet connection? What d-i media did you use? Where did you get it? Did you verify the checksum of the download and/or media? David Thanks David, but as I explained, Debian/Stable doesn't "just work". You need the second part of your condition, but it's hard to know if hardware is supported until you try it. And what doesn't work one week may work the next. I don't blame Debian in this case. It's clearly an nVidia problem. Normally I stay away from them when getting something for Linux, but I got a great Black Friday deal. That's why I even got a new laptop to begin with. Apart from the nVidia components, it seems to work fine. Added nothing - just removed the Windows partitions and installed Linux. As I explained, I used Debian netinst copied to a Ventoy USB. What was strange is that Stable has no problem installing (just problems running) but Testing seems to get hung up with the networking (when I tried a graphical install, it at least showed that was what it was doing. The text based installer flashed something on the screen but never got around to doing more than the background colours - no text or progress bar - so I wasn't sure what it was doing). Also the current testing alpha netinst iso doesn't seem work with Ventoy, which meant I had to dd it to its own usb stick. And yes, I only download the files from debian.org. Have you tried finding the Debian Testing netinst checksums? You can find them for the weekly builds if you look hard enough but not the ones for the Alpha release. I thought maybe the alpha release would be a little more stable than a weekly build I can confirm that the problem with FAT32 was fixed by a reboot. I don't reboot every day normally, The la
Re: latest testing update broke my laptop
On 2022-12-16 21:29, Gary Dale wrote: My laptop no longer boots thanks to the latest update. It stops after I select a normal boot - it goes to the text mode console and displays an error message about: [ 0.717939] ACPI BIOS Error (bug). If I go into recovery mode, I don't get that error but then it stops after a message about the nouveau driver. I never get to a command prompt. I can boot from System Rescus CD. I get the same BIOS error message but then it continues on as if it wasn't important. I tried updating the BIOS but that did nothing to resolve the problem. I did a reinstall and the problem survives. The problem actually started earlier in the day, when I did the apt full-upgrade. It updated the nvidia drivers so it wanted a reboot. When I rebooted, it refused to start sddm. It just sat there. I rebooted into recovery mode and changed to lightdm, which did the same thing. Gdm3 actually switched into a graphics mode before hanging. I purged the nvidia drivers and that was when the message cropped up. I tried booting from system rescue cd then switching into a bash shell on my / partition but lost my DNS so I couldn't (re) install the nouveau drivers (didn't want to touch the nvidia ones again). I did try updating initramfs, in case there was some nvidia stuff hanging around but it didn't help. That led to me reinstalling. I copied the Bookworm netinst to my Ventoy USB stick, but it wouldn't boot so I went back to Bullseye - which installed but wouldn't bring up a GUI. Booted to recovery mode, brought up the network and upgraded to Bookworm. That is where I am now - with the error message appearing after I leave the boot menu. This is basically clean install - just done in two parts. My laptop had been running fine since I got it and installed Debian. I couldn't get the Bookworm alpha install to work even when dd'd directly to a USB stick. However I was able to get to a recovery mode from the Bullseye install on Ventoy. From there I added the nVidia drivers and that got me past the error message. I was able to eventually get to a recovery session from the installation on the laptop. Sddm simply refused to work while gdm3 only seems to give me a Gnome desktop. After installing lightdm, I was able to get back to a Plasma desktop. Along the way, I found that my (Debian/Bookworm) workstation wont read USB sticks formatted with FAT32! I'm hoping a reboot later will fix that. Anyway, sddm seems to have some real problems with nVidia drivers. My laptop on the other hand seems to need them even though non-Bookworm distros don't.
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latest testing update broke my laptop
My laptop no longer boots thanks to the latest update. It stops after I select a normal boot - it goes to the text mode console and displays an error message about: [ 0.717939] ACPI BIOS Error (bug). If I go into recovery mode, I don't get that error but then it stops after a message about the nouveau driver. I never get to a command prompt. I can boot from System Rescus CD. I get the same BIOS error message but then it continues on as if it wasn't important. I tried updating the BIOS but that did nothing to resolve the problem. I did a reinstall and the problem survives. The problem actually started earlier in the day, when I did the apt full-upgrade. It updated the nvidia drivers so it wanted a reboot. When I rebooted, it refused to start sddm. It just sat there. I rebooted into recovery mode and changed to lightdm, which did the same thing. Gdm3 actually switched into a graphics mode before hanging. I purged the nvidia drivers and that was when the message cropped up. I tried booting from system rescue cd then switching into a bash shell on my / partition but lost my DNS so I couldn't (re) install the nouveau drivers (didn't want to touch the nvidia ones again). I did try updating initramfs, in case there was some nvidia stuff hanging around but it didn't help. That led to me reinstalling. I copied the Bookworm netinst to my Ventoy USB stick, but it wouldn't boot so I went back to Bullseye - which installed but wouldn't bring up a GUI. Booted to recovery mode, brought up the network and upgraded to Bookworm. That is where I am now - with the error message appearing after I leave the boot menu. This is basically clean install - just done in two parts. My laptop had been running fine since I got it and installed Debian.
Re: ASUS Laptops
On 2022-11-27 02:15, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: On 11/27/22 06:50, Gary Dale wrote: I've acquired an ASUS laptop (FA506IC-DS71-CA) and installed Debian on it. I started with Debian/Bullseye but had some problems starting a GUI (using sddm) so quickly did an apt full-upgrade to Bookworm. After installing the Realtek and Misc firmware, I'm able to boot into a Plasma5 desktop and things run as expected. I've got a couple immediate annoyances however: 1) no wifi - may be by Mediatek 2) keys are constantly backlit with rotating colours. I'm fine with the Nouveau drivers. Video speed seems adequate since I'm not really into gaming. This just seemed like a decent laptop for the price. Hoping someone can point me to something (or give me some pointers) on how to get this set up better. The two "annoyances" really get to me. Other things I can probably live with for a while. Hi Gary, please attach output of dmesg and lspci commands. Kind regards Georgi List server is rejecting my replies - probably because they are too large. However, it turns out I just didn't know how to connect to the wifi - the driver was there. And found out how to turn off the keyboard lights (fn + down arrow until they go off) from a question elsewhere that asked a similar question. I think there are likely still a few things I need to clean up, but they lack urgency right now.
ASUS Laptops
I've acquired an ASUS laptop (FA506IC-DS71-CA) and installed Debian on it. I started with Debian/Bullseye but had some problems starting a GUI (using sddm) so quickly did an apt full-upgrade to Bookworm. After installing the Realtek and Misc firmware, I'm able to boot into a Plasma5 desktop and things run as expected. I've got a couple immediate annoyances however: 1) no wifi - may be by Mediatek 2) keys are constantly backlit with rotating colours. I'm fine with the Nouveau drivers. Video speed seems adequate since I'm not really into gaming. This just seemed like a decent laptop for the price. Hoping someone can point me to something (or give me some pointers) on how to get this set up better. The two "annoyances" really get to me. Other things I can probably live with for a while.
Re: grep replacement using sed is behaving oddly
On 2022-10-21 15:14, David Wright wrote: On Fri 21 Oct 2022 at 14:15:01 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 08:01:00PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 01:21:44PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: I'm hoping someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong. I have a line in a lot of HTML files that I'd like to remove. The line is: I'm testing the sed command to remove it on just one file. When it works, I'll run it against *.html. My command is: sed -i -s 's/\s*\//g' history.html Unfortunately, the replacement doesn't remove the line but rather leaves me with: <;"> This looks as if the <> in the regexp were interpreted as left and right word boundaries (but that would only be the case if you'd given the -E (or -r) option). Try explicitly adding the --posix option, perhaps... Gary is using non-POSIX syntax (specifically the \s), so that's not going to help unless he first changes his regular expression to be standard. The whitespace is tricky. I pasted the email into emacs, and I see that there are NO-BREAK SPACEs at the start, and one after "hr". Who knows whether they're really in the OP's files, or just put there by their MUA. I think you might be on to something with the \< and \> here. I can see absolutely no reason why Gary put backslashes in front of spaces and angle brackets here. I'm guessing the reason is guessing. The backslashes in front of the spaces are probably just noise, and can be ignored. The \< and \> on the other hand might be interpreted as something special, the same way \s is (because this is GNU sed, which loves to do nonstandard things). unicorn:~$ echo 'abc xyz' | sed 's/<.*>//' abc xyz unicorn:~$ echo 'abc xyz' | sed 's/\<.*\>//' unicorn:~$ So... yeah, \< and/or \> clearly have some special meaning to GNU sed. Good luck figuring out what that is. Word boundaries, as tomas said. The .*\> can be seen to have worked, as matching stopped after the end of the word "rem", leaving the punctuation behind. For Gary's actual problem, simply removing the backslashes where they're not wanted would be a good start. Actually learning sed could be step 2. The man/info pages leave a lot to be desired. A table with columns that showed: codesupported byeffect \s -e match all whitespace except NON-BREAK or whatever --posix -E --posix -E or whatever might really help. As it is, unless you're looking at a real book, you get a table like: '\s' Matches whitespace characters (spaces and tabs). Newlines embedded in the pattern/hold spaces will also match: '\S' Matches non-whitespace characters. '\<' Matches the beginning of a word. '\>' Matches the end of a word. but it's next to impossible to keep track of whether you're in a section that's speaking POSIX, GNU, or some mid-20th century tradition. I feel obliged at this point to mention that parsing HTML with regular expressions is a fool's errand, and that sed should not be the tool of choice here. Nor should grep, nor any other RE-based tool. This goes triple when one doesn't even know the correct syntax for their RE. https://stackoverflow.com/q/1732348 To be fair, I'm not sure whether the OP is really trying to parse HTML, or just remove some similar strings that they see as redundant. Cheers, David. Thanks. This command sed -i '//d' *.html did the trick. I've gotten into the habit of escaping special characters rather than memorizing the full list of which ones need to be escaped. I do most of my editing in Kate but use sed from to time when making the same change to all the files in a web site, as was the case here. Obviously I wasn't aware of the special meaning of \< and \> in sed... Thanks again.
grep replacement using sed is behaving oddly
I'm hoping someone can tell me what I'm doing wrong. I have a line in a lot of HTML files that I'd like to remove. The line is: I'm testing the sed command to remove it on just one file. When it works, I'll run it against *.html. My command is: sed -i -s 's/\s*\//g' history.html Unfortunately, the replacement doesn't remove the line but rather leaves me with: <;"> The leading spaces, angle brackets and some punctuation (but not all) is left behind. Moreover, If I try to remove the EOL by adding \n after the \>, the replace fails (and yes, the closing bracket is the last character on the line). I get the same behaviour under both Bullseye and Bookworm so I assume this is how sed is supposed to operate. However, when I try the same regex in Kate, it works. Is this a long-standing bug in sed or am I doing something wrong? Thanks
Re: sigc++ library missing object.h file
On 10/8/22 09:17, Gary L. Roach wrote: Thank you all for your replies, I mean gspeaker not gespeaker. The first is a speaker enclosure design program and the second is a front end for the sound system. Not the same -- damn, I had hopes. I also went back and looked at the older versions of sigc++ and found nothing. Unfortunately, rewriting the program is beyond my present capability without extensive study. I don't want to go there. The one idea that is intriguing is to find another distribution that contains the missing file and add it to my sigc++ directory. I have been loath to contact the maintainers but am forced to consider it. Many thanks again. Unless someone has specific information on a source for an object.h file I think we have beaten this dead horse enough. Many thanks again Gary R On 10/8/22 00:57, Max Nikulin wrote: On 08/10/2022 04:54, Gary L. Roach wrote: I've been trying to compile an older program from source code and keep getting the error missing sigc++/object.h file. .. I really need this program (gspeaker). Removing the # from the offending module only caused a slew of other errors. What would be in this object.h file? Have you tried any general purpose search engine? I was curious if it is related somehow to SGI. The result of my attempt: https://github.com/libsigcplusplus/libsigcplusplus/blob/master/NEWS 2.5.2 (unstable): * Remove useless headers: sigc++/class_slot.h sigc++/hide.h sigc++/method_slot.h sigc++/object.h sigc++/object_slot.h sigc++/retype.h Some of these still have equivalents in sigc++/adaptors/ (Kjell Ahlstedt, Murray Cumming) Bug #752560 Perhaps it is possible to modernize source code of your precious program. Read that "other" errors, library docs and maybe git history.
Re: sigc++ library missing object.h file
Thank you all for your replies, I mean gspeaker not gespeaker. The first is a speaker enclosure design program and the second is a front end for the sound system. Not the same -- damn, I had hopes. I also went back and looked at the older versions of sigc++ and found nothing. Unfortunately, rewriting the program is beyond my present capability without extensive study. I don't want to go there. The one idea that is intriguing is to find another distribution that contains the missing file and add it to my sigc++ directory. I have been loath to contact the maintainers but am forced to consider it. Many thanks again. Unless someone has specific information on a source for an object.h file I think we have beaten this dead horse enough. Many thanks again Gary R On 10/8/22 00:57, Max Nikulin wrote: On 08/10/2022 04:54, Gary L. Roach wrote: I've been trying to compile an older program from source code and keep getting the error missing sigc++/object.h file. .. I really need this program (gspeaker). Removing the # from the offending module only caused a slew of other errors. What would be in this object.h file? Have you tried any general purpose search engine? I was curious if it is related somehow to SGI. The result of my attempt: https://github.com/libsigcplusplus/libsigcplusplus/blob/master/NEWS 2.5.2 (unstable): * Remove useless headers: sigc++/class_slot.h sigc++/hide.h sigc++/method_slot.h sigc++/object.h sigc++/object_slot.h sigc++/retype.h Some of these still have equivalents in sigc++/adaptors/ (Kjell Ahlstedt, Murray Cumming) Bug #752560 Perhaps it is possible to modernize source code of your precious program. Read that "other" errors, library docs and maybe git history.
sigc++ library missing object.h file
Hi all, I've been trying to compile an older program from source code and keep getting the error missing sigc++/object.h file. I looked at the available versions of libsigc++ and found that none of them include an object.h sub directory. Does anyone know how to fix this. I really need this program (gspeaker). Removing the # from the offending module only caused a slew of other errors. What would be in this object.h file? Is the data available to gin up a replacement? Please help! Gary R.
gspeaker installation
Hi all, Is anyone familiar with gspeaker installation. This program has to be compiled from source code. I keep getting the following error when running make: ***/usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gtypes.h:29:2:error: #error "Only can be included directly."* I have searched the web and have found references to the problem but could not find a solution that didn't require modification of the source code. Gary R
Re: How do I install PHPMailer on a Debian/Bullseye Apache2 server -- resolved
On 2022-09-07 17:49, Gareth Evans wrote: On 7 Sep 2022, at 22:24, Gareth Evans wrote: On 7 Sep 2022, at 22:01, Gareth Evans wrote: On 7 Sep 2022, at 21:27, Gareth Evans wrote: On 7 Sep 2022, at 17:55, Gary Dale wrote: I'm using a web hosting company that pretty much limits me to using PHPMailer on their servers for sending complex e-mails (e.g. with attachments). That is working. [...] However when I try it with my local Apache2 server, it doesn't work. [...] However the test .php file that works on the hosting company's server doesn't do anything on my local server. I try to load the page and get nothing - not even an error message. Hi Gary, If you expect output of some sort from the script, try putting ini_set("display_errors",1); ini_set("error_reporting",E_ALL); at the top of the script in question - this should show any errors on the page rather than having to look in /var/log/syslog, though that might be worthwhile too. Also $ php -l file.php (Lower case L after dash) Do you receive any bounce message in (iirc... or something like...) /var/spool/mail/username ? Not knowing whether you expect output, it could be that the script is working but the remote server rejects mail from non-routable (ie LAN) IPs - I don't think a bounce message is necessarily guaranteed though. Any difference sending with PHPMailer via SMTP ? Best wishes, Gareth Having said that re bounce messages, I can'tremember if the error report concerned, if any, may actually be found in syslog - it's a while since I've seen one as I gave up testing email from local machines for this reason. Possibly getting ahead of myself here, but it might also be worth mentioning greylisting as an issue to be aware of - particularly for email originating from non-routable addresses. "Mail from unrecognized servers is typically delayed by about 15 minutes, and could be delayed up to a few days for poorly configured sending systems." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greylisting_(email) Also does the (working) server run the same OS as your local machine? You may need to correct the location of sendmail (or whatever) in local phpmailer's config Owner / group / permissions for phpmailer dir + files? I should have thought of that one first - it's a common PHP "white screen of death" cause. Thanks Gareth. I didn't notice your answer because it was in a different thread. I've been working directly on the remote host all afternoon until I get the php script doing (mostly) what I want. When I followed your suggestion, it showed errors relating to file permissions on a file that I wanted to write to. I changed them and now its working the same as the remote host. However, the writing to the file wasn't part of the script in the morning. It was something I added after I got the script working on the remote host and wanted to add features. The basic script was just a test script with everything hardcoded. The one that is now working is actually driven by an HTML form so just the SMTP login is hardcoded. The writing to a file was a late addition to create a cumulative .csv log of submissions. I just needed to allow the file to be written to to get this later script to work. Anyway, it looks like the issue has gone away. Thanks!
How do I install PHPMailer on a Debian/Bullseye Apache2 server
I'm using a web hosting company that pretty much limits me to using PHPMailer on their servers for sending complex e-mails (e.g. with attachments). That is working. To get it to work, I used the zip archive from the PHPMailer's github page and unzipped it into the site's public directory - so that there is PHPMailer folder in the same folder that has the index.html file. I uploaded a test .php file and it sends mail. However when I try it with my local Apache2 server, it doesn't work. I've got PHP working because I have another PHP script that executes perfectly. However the test .php file that works on the hosting company's server doesn't do anything on my local server. I try to load the page and get nothing - not even an error message. I tried placing a copy of the PHPMailer files in the /usr/share/php folder and uncommented the include_path line in /etc/php/8.1/apache2php.ini file to ensure that the folder was in the path, but still no luck (various installation howtos say to make sure the PHPMailer folder is in the php include path). Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get this to work? I know that PHPMailer at the best of times is very finicky (e.g. it creates the same problem (no output) if I have a space in the (optional) second argument for the ->setFrom or ->addAddress methods), but in this case, the file is identical between the hosting company's working example and my local test. Nothing shows up in the various PHP logs nor in the syslog. Thanks.
how to change device number in RAID array
I'm running Debian/Bookworm on an AMD64 system. I recently added a second drive to it for use in a RAID1 array. However I'm now getting regular messages about "SparesMissing event on...". cat /proc/mdstat shows the problem: active raid1 sda1[0] sdb1[2] - the newly added drive is showing up as [2] instead of [1]. Apparently mdadm thinks there should be another drive sitting around as a spare. Is there a simple way to fix this? Thanks.
Re: Getting rid of backuppc password protection.
On 7/17/22 2:07 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Gary L. Roach (12022-07-16): Some time ago I installed backuppc and then decided to not use it. Even though I purged the program and made sure that I deleted all directories, I still get a backuppc password request when starting any of my programs. Anyone had this problem and if so, do you know how to get rid of it. Does it happen when you run your programs from the command line? If yes, then use strace to see how your command is redirected. If no, then you need to investigate whatever you use to run the programs. Thanks for the reply. No the problem doesn't occur when starting a program from the command line. This finally lead me to two fixes. If you dig down deep enough on the desktop icon properties (application -> Advanced Options -> User) you can set the user to root. When this is done a request for a password is presented on startup. Apparently this was set by backuppc. I just unchecked the box and the problem is gone. I also found a way to bypass the security lock on Dolphin so that I can now use it on root files. Yes I know that is not safe but my system is single user, in my home office and really doesn't include files that would be a disaster to loose. Because of the work I do I am constantly working with files that are owned by root and the inability to use Dolphin has been a great pain. Thanks again Gary R
Re: Getting rid of backuppc password protection.
Sorry I used apt install to install the standard debian package and used apt purge to uninstall. Further, I used rm -r to clean up the directories that were left. If it helps: Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11 KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.78.0 Qt Version: 5.15.2 Kernel Version: 5.10.0-13-amd64 OS Type: 64-bit Processors: 4 × AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor Memory: 15.6 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: AMD CAICOS Gary R On 7/16/22 5:51 PM, David wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2022 at 10:24, Gary L. Roach wrote: Some time ago I installed backuppc and then decided to not use it. Even though I purged the program and made sure that I deleted all directories, I still get a backuppc password request when starting any of my programs. Anyone had this problem and if so, do you know how to get rid of it. Hi Gary. People will be in a better position to advise you if you confirm what method did you use to "install" it? Because there are multiple possibilities and you give us no clues. Did you use Debian tools (apt, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic)? Or some other method? And the same questions, but for "purge". Asking because Debian makes great effort to ensure that its tools work as intended when used as intended for this kind of task. But if you didn't use the recommended tools in the recommended manner, that can explain this kind of breakage, and why your situation might be unique and thus require additional description by you.
Getting rid of backuppc password protection.
Hi all, Some time ago I installed backuppc and then decided to not use it. Even though I purged the program and made sure that I deleted all directories, I still get a backuppc password request when starting any of my programs. Anyone had this problem and if so, do you know how to get rid of it. Gary R.
Re: Epson printer page counting error
localhost:631 brings up a web page that lists most all manufacturers and models. The process is the same for all cups print drivers. Using that is what I meant as "as usual". I've never used anything else. I don't thing anyone else does either. Gary R. On 6/15/22 12:29 PM, Brian wrote: On Wed 15 Jun 2022 at 10:43:14 -0700, Gary L. Roach wrote: Hi all, I just purchased an Epson ET-3850 tank printer. I set up the printer with Cups as usual. What does "as usual" involve?
Epson printer page counting error
Hi all, I just purchased an Epson ET-3850 tank printer. I set up the printer with Cups as usual. I often wish to print a few pages out of the middle of a document (eg 115-120). Now this worked fine with my old HP 5 in 1 printer. But when I tried this with the Epson the count seems to be offset by one page. In other words instead of printing pages 115 to 120 I get 114-119. Has any one had this problem and has anyone found a fix. Gary R.
Re: Debian license issue
On 2022-06-01 09:14, Lidiya Pecherskaya wrote: Hello, Is it possible to get information on the type of license under which the Debian software is available? Thanks in advance. Most of the packages are distributed under a free license - usually GPL or MIT but sometimes others. Packages under the "non-free" section usually aren't - which is often because the source is not available.
Re: Netgen installation problem
Thanks Anssi I made sure that the PATH's matched what you did and ran the program from the desktop. It worked fine. It is interesting that running netgen from the command line doesn't work but the icon on the desktop does. I never noticed this before but may have just missed it. After 20 years of using Debian you would think that I would have stumbled across this before. Thanks again. Problem solved. Gary R On 5/25/22 11:20 AM, Anssi Saari wrote: NETGENDIR=/usr/share/netgen /usr/bin/netgen
Re: Netgen installation problem
Thanks for the reply Tomas, Running the _/apt-file search libgui.so/_ search now gets the exact same results as your search. Unfortunately, running netgen still gives the same error message. Now what? Gary R On 5/24/22 10:37 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 02:40:09PM -0700, Gary L. Roach wrote: Hi all, Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11 KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.78.0 Qt Version: 5.15.2 Kernel Version: 5.10.0-13-amd64 OS Type: 64-bit Processors: 4 × AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor Memory: 15.6 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: AMD CAICOS I have installed netgen from the Debian Bullseye package library. When I run the program I get the following error message: /gary@debian:~/Netgen/build$ netgen// //NETGEN-6.2-dev// //Developed by Joachim Schoeberl at// //2010- Vienna University of Technology// //2006-2010 RWTH Aachen University// //1996-2006 Johannes Kepler University Linz// //Including OpenCascade geometry kernel// //Including MPI version 3.1// //Error in Tcl-Script:// //result = couldn't load file "libgui.so": libgui.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory// // //Make sure to set environment variable NETGENDIR to directory containing ng.tcl/ / / /There is not ng.tcl or libgui.so on my system so it is hard to set NETGENDIR when I can't find the files. I used locate to try to find the file but no luck. Any suggestions?/ tomas@trotzki:~$ apt-file search libgui.so libnglib-6.2: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/netgen/libgui.so.6.2 libnglib-6.2: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/netgen/libgui.so.6.2.1905 libnglib-dev: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/netgen/libgui.so libsight: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sight/gui-0.1/libgui.so.0 libsight: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/sight/gui-0.1/libgui.so.0.1 Next stop seems to be to check whether libnglib-6.2 is installed in your system and whether /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/netgen/libgui.so.6.2 is there and points to something existent, too. Cheers
Netgen installation problem
Hi all, Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11 KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.78.0 Qt Version: 5.15.2 Kernel Version: 5.10.0-13-amd64 OS Type: 64-bit Processors: 4 × AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor Memory: 15.6 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: AMD CAICOS I have installed netgen from the Debian Bullseye package library. When I run the program I get the following error message: /gary@debian:~/Netgen/build$ netgen// //NETGEN-6.2-dev// //Developed by Joachim Schoeberl at// //2010- Vienna University of Technology// //2006-2010 RWTH Aachen University// //1996-2006 Johannes Kepler University Linz// //Including OpenCascade geometry kernel// //Including MPI version 3.1// //Error in Tcl-Script:// //result = couldn't load file "libgui.so": libgui.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory// // //Make sure to set environment variable NETGENDIR to directory containing ng.tcl/ / / /There is not ng.tcl or libgui.so on my system so it is hard to set NETGENDIR when I can't find the files. I used locate to try to find the file but no luck. Any suggestions?/ /Gary R/
Re: wtf just happened to my local staging web server
On 2022-05-05 02:37, Erwan David wrote: Le 04/05/2022 à 19:01, Gary Dale a écrit : My Apache2 file/print/web server is running Bullseye. I had to restart it yesterday evening to replace a disk drive. Otherwise the last reboot was a couple of weeks ago - I recall some updates to Jitsi - but I don't think there were any updates since then. Today I find that I can't get through to any of the sites on the server. Instead I get the Apache2 default web page. This happens with both Firefox and Chromium. This happens for all the staging sites (that I access as ".loc" through entries in my hosts file). My jitsi and nextcloud servers simply report failure to get to the server. I verified that the site files (-available and -enabled) haven't changed in months. I tried restarting the apache2 service and got an error so I tried stopping it then starting it again - same error: root@TheLibrarian:~# service apache2 start It looks like you started it, not restart, thus the running apache is not killed [...] May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian systemd[1]: Starting The Apache HTTP Server... May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian apachectl[7935]: (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to addre> May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian apachectl[7935]: (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to addre> This is consistent with former apache still running at that time, and using the wanted ports. If you read my original e-mail, I tried both restarting it and starting it. Also, in my original e-mail, I identified that Apache2 wasn't running by running ps aux output through grep. Again, this confirms the systemctl message - as Greg Wooledge mentions in his reply to you. Greg Wooledge showed me how to diagnose the problem by identifying the process (nginx in this case) that was grabbing the ports Apache2 needed. Claudio Kuenzler also provided an alternative method of diagnosing the problem. My problem is I'm not all that conversant in tracking down network issues, such as ports. I didn't know that lsof even had a port option. And I'm still getting used to systemctl / journalctl. Anyway, thanks for your attempt to help.
Re: wtf just happened to my local staging web server
On 2022-05-05 03:57, Stephan Seitz wrote: Am Do, Mai 05, 2022 at 09:30:42 +0200 schrieb Klaus Singvogel: I think there are more. Yes, I only know wtf as „what the fuck”. Stephan Actually, it's "what the frack" - a nod to the Battlestar Galactica TV/movie franchise, which uses frack as the expletive of choice. These days "frack" also refers to a gas extraction process with terrible environmental consequences, thereby justifying its use as an expletive in the broader world. Fracking is derived from fracturing, the breaking of something, which is appropriate in the case of my staging server suddenly being broken.
Re: wtf just happened to my local staging web server
On 2022-05-04 13:21, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 01:01:58PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian systemd[1]: Starting The Apache HTTP Server... May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian apachectl[7935]: (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to addre> May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian apachectl[7935]: (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to addre> Something else is using the ports that Apache wants to use. Assuming those ports are 80 and 443, you could use commands like this to see what's using them: lsof -i :80 lsof -i :443 If your configuration is telling Apache to use some other ports, then substitute your port numbers. Thanks. Somehow nginx got installed. Wondering if jitsi or nextcloud did that because I certainly didn't (doesn't seem likely though because they both failed). I guess I should pay more attention to the packages that get installed when I do apt full-upgrade... Usually I just scan to see if there is anything that I should reboot over.
wtf just happened to my local staging web server
My Apache2 file/print/web server is running Bullseye. I had to restart it yesterday evening to replace a disk drive. Otherwise the last reboot was a couple of weeks ago - I recall some updates to Jitsi - but I don't think there were any updates since then. Today I find that I can't get through to any of the sites on the server. Instead I get the Apache2 default web page. This happens with both Firefox and Chromium. This happens for all the staging sites (that I access as ".loc" through entries in my hosts file). My jitsi and nextcloud servers simply report failure to get to the server. I verified that the site files (-available and -enabled) haven't changed in months. I tried restarting the apache2 service and got an error so I tried stopping it then starting it again - same error: root@TheLibrarian:~# service apache2 start Job for apache2.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status apache2.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details. root@TheLibrarian:~# systemctl status apache2.service ●apache2.service - The Apache HTTP Server Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/apache2.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: failed(Result: exit-code) since Wed 2022-05-04 12:16:55 EDT; 5s ago Docs: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/ Process: 7932 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/apachectl start (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) CPU: 29ms May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian systemd[1]: Starting The Apache HTTP Server... May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian apachectl[7935]: (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to addre> May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian apachectl[7935]: (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to addre> May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian apachectl[7935]: no listening sockets available, shutting down May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian apachectl[7935]: AH00015: Unable to open logs May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian apachectl[7932]: Action 'start' failed. May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian apachectl[7932]: The Apache error log may have more information. May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian systemd[1]: apache2.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. May 04 12:16:55 TheLibrarian systemd[1]: Failed to start The Apache HTTP Server. also root@TheLibrarian:/var/log# journalctl -xe ░░The job identifier is 4527. May 04 12:50:49 TheLibrarian apachectl[8232]: (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to addre> May 04 12:50:49 TheLibrarian apachectl[8232]: (98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to addre> May 04 12:50:49 TheLibrarian apachectl[8232]: no listening sockets available, shutting down May 04 12:50:49 TheLibrarian apachectl[8232]: AH00015: Unable to open logs May 04 12:50:49 TheLibrarian apachectl[8229]: Action 'start' failed. May 04 12:50:49 TheLibrarian apachectl[8229]: The Apache error log may have more information. May 04 12:50:49 TheLibrarian systemd[1]: apache2.service: Control process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE ░░Subject: Unit process exited ░░Defined-By: systemd ░░Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░An ExecStart= process belonging to unit apache2.service has exited. ░░ ░░The process' exit code is 'exited' and its exit status is 1. May 04 12:50:49 TheLibrarian systemd[1]: apache2.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'. ░░Subject: Unit failed ░░Defined-By: systemd ░░Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░The unit apache2.service has entered the 'failed' state with result 'exit-code'. May 04 12:50:49 TheLibrarian systemd[1]: Failed to start The Apache HTTP Server. ░░Subject: A start job for unit apache2.service has failed ░░Defined-By: systemd ░░Support: https://www.debian.org/support ░░ ░░A start job for unit apache2.service has finished with a failure. ░░ ░░The job identifier is 4527 and the job result is failed. As I said, I do get the default Apache2 page saying "It works" but that appears to be optimistic. ps aux | grep apache2 fails to show the service, which confirms the systemctl message that it isn't running. There is nothing in /var/log/apache2/error.log. The .1 log ends yesterday but only contains complaints about php7. Systemctl does report (above) "unable to open logs" so that would explain the lack of additional messages. The apache2 directory and its files are root:adm with only root having write privileges. I tried giving the adm group write privileges but that didn't work. Turns out the group is empty. Adding www-data to it didn't work either. Any ideas on how to track down the cause of the failure(s)? Thanks.
Looking for documentation package
I have been looking for a documentation system that would allow me to write cursive paragraphs with math formulas interspersed and then have the formulas solved. Some examples that almost do what I want is Sage, Octave and Cantor (with the proper backend). So far all seem to be missing the /* text */ capability of the C language and have no subscript superscript capability. I like Cantor a lot but haven't been able to get around these two hurdles. Could anyone help. Gary R
Re: Wrong libvirt version in bullseye installation
Thank you Charles and all others, I apparently got the backport version of libvirt0 installed somewhere along the line and didn't realize that I had. Purging the libvirt0 file fixed the problem. The next attempt to load the qemu files worked fine. Since the replacement of the 8. version by the 7. version was a downgrade, My attempts to overwrite it didn't work. Thank you all for your help Gary R, On 2/7/22 8:35 PM, Charles Curley wrote: On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 14:34:20 -0800 "Gary L. Roach" wrote: libvirt-clients : Depends: libvirt0 (= 7.0.0-3) but 8.0.0-1~bpo11+1 is to be installed. If a package with that ~bpo11+1 bit in it is to be installed, you are trying to pull something in from backports. What command are you trying to execute? Copy and paste it into your reply.