Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-12 Thread Howard Eisenberger
On 2009-01-11, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

 On 01/10/09 19:27, Celejar wrote:
 On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:49:18 -0600
 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
 
 ...
 
 clive is good for grabbing Flash videos and converting them to .mp4.
 
 I'm not sure that there's generally any need to convert them; mplayer is
 perfectly happy with files with .flv extensions.

 True.  But IIRC, the mp4 files are smaller.

It is my understanding that clive does not convert .flv to .mp4,
but downloads the higher resolution .mp4 directly from Youtube
if that format exists. clive -L will download the lower res
.flv.

Substantially more CPU is required to play .mp4 than .flv.

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-12 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/12/09 02:03, Howard Eisenberger wrote:

On 2009-01-11, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:


On 01/10/09 19:27, Celejar wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:49:18 -0600
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

...


clive is good for grabbing Flash videos and converting them to .mp4.

I'm not sure that there's generally any need to convert them; mplayer is
perfectly happy with files with .flv extensions.

True.  But IIRC, the mp4 files are smaller.


It is my understanding that clive does not convert .flv to .mp4,
but downloads the higher resolution .mp4 directly from Youtube
if that format exists. clive -L will download the lower res
.flv.


That must be new, because I thought it took it's instructions from 
it's rc file.  But mine is 19 months old, and clive has been 
upgraded and rewritten since then...


$ cat .cliverc
[clive]
encoder = /usr/bin/ffmpeg -y -i i o
always_accept = yes
encode_format = mpeg

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-12 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon January 12 2009, Howard Eisenberger wrote:
 It is my understanding that clive does not convert .flv to .mp4,
 but downloads the higher resolution .mp4 directly from Youtube
 if that format exists. clive -L will download the lower res
 .flv.

 Substantially more CPU is required to play .mp4 than .flv.

man clive:
 -r FORMAT, --reencode=FORMAT
   This  causes  clive  to  call ffmpeg to re-encode the 
downloaded  video to another FORMAT. The FORMAT can be anything as  long  as
ffmpeg recognizes it.

   Note  that if --play is being used and the value is other 
than src, you don't need to use this option. For example:

 % clive --play=mpg URL

   config: reencode_format



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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-12 Thread Bob Cox
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 02:39:47 -0600, Ron Johnson (ron.l.john...@cox.net) 
wrote: 

 On 01/12/09 02:03, Howard Eisenberger wrote:
 On 2009-01-11, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

 On 01/10/09 19:27, Celejar wrote:
 On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:49:18 -0600
 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

 ...

 clive is good for grabbing Flash videos and converting them to .mp4.
 I'm not sure that there's generally any need to convert them; mplayer is
 perfectly happy with files with .flv extensions.
 True.  But IIRC, the mp4 files are smaller.

 It is my understanding that clive does not convert .flv to .mp4,
 but downloads the higher resolution .mp4 directly from Youtube
 if that format exists. clive -L will download the lower res
 .flv.

 That must be new, because I thought it took it's instructions from it's 
 rc file.  But mine is 19 months old, and clive has been upgraded and 
 rewritten since then...

Also, I don't think that 19 months ago, YouTube offered the alternative
link to watch in high quality where such a version exists.

By appending fmt=18 to the URL of a YouTube movie, it can be made to
open initially in this higher quality mode and perhaps this is what
clive is doing.

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:48:22AM +, Chris S wrote:
 reult from last advice seemed to install ok details to follow but no affect
 on the frame rate on u tube, I get a picture update about one a sec and a
 half, I know it can't be hardware as nothing has changed in hardware or
 connection speed, oh and when I right click the video and go to ? it lists

Just a thought ... how many instances/tabs of iceweasel are you running?

To eliminate network issues, I'd grab the youtube video and play it in
mplayer. Install clive (or youtube-dl if its available) and get the
video. Install mplayer. then:
mplayer cvxdssd.flv (or whatever the .flv is called that clive or
youtube-dl grabbed).

The output from the mplayer cvxdssd.flv command may give some clues to
your problem.

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming-SOLVED

2009-01-11 Thread Chris S
2009/1/11 Chris Bannister mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz:
 On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:48:22AM +, Chris S wrote:
 reult from last advice seemed to install ok details to follow but no affect
 on the frame rate on u tube, I get a picture update about one a sec and a
 half, I know it can't be hardware as nothing has changed in hardware or
 connection speed, oh and when I right click the video and go to ? it lists

 Just a thought ... how many instances/tabs of iceweasel are you running?

 To eliminate network issues, I'd grab the youtube video and play it in
 mplayer. Install clive (or youtube-dl if its available) and get the
 video. Install mplayer. then:
 mplayer cvxdssd.flv (or whatever the .flv is called that clive or
 youtube-dl grabbed).

 The output from the mplayer cvxdssd.flv command may give some clues to
 your problem.

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Hey guys, just to let you all know that this problem is now solved
thanks to everyone for all your help, it was an issue with cpu load
using the flash plug in, I'n now using mplayer and it works perfectly.
Oh and thank you Paul for showing me how to close a problem in here, I
was away from PC last night or would of done it then. Again many
thanks for all your help and suggestions. May you all be blessed with
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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/10/09 19:27, Celejar wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:49:18 -0600
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

...


clive is good for grabbing Flash videos and converting them to .mp4.


I'm not sure that there's generally any need to convert them; mplayer is
perfectly happy with files with .flv extensions.


True.  But IIRC, the mp4 files are smaller.

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-11 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:39:56 -0600
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

 On 01/10/09 19:27, Celejar wrote:
  On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:49:18 -0600
  Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
  
  ...
  
  clive is good for grabbing Flash videos and converting them to .mp4.
  
  I'm not sure that there's generally any need to convert them; mplayer is
  perfectly happy with files with .flv extensions.
 
 True.  But IIRC, the mp4 files are smaller.

Will transcoding reduce the quality?

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-11 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/11/09 17:31, Celejar wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:39:56 -0600
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:


On 01/10/09 19:27, Celejar wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:49:18 -0600
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

...


clive is good for grabbing Flash videos and converting them to .mp4.

I'm not sure that there's generally any need to convert them; mplayer is
perfectly happy with files with .flv extensions.

True.  But IIRC, the mp4 files are smaller.


Will transcoding reduce the quality?


I haven't noticed any reduction.

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-11 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 10:14:31AM +1000, Adrian Levi wrote:
 2009/1/10 Michael Pobega pob...@gmail.com:
  On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 10:38:34PM +, Chris S wrote:
  Hello everyone genius type people,
  Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you guys)
 
  they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about 
  the
  further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let me 
  know
  what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the details. I 
  have
  googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything that directly
  helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong.
 
  I'm not trying to say something completely useless here, but perhaps you
  should try updated to Lenny? Etch is soon to be an unsupported version
  of Debian, so I would honestly upgrade before getting into anything.
 
 Yes it is soon to be oldstable but security fixes will still apply to
 it for some time.
 
 Updating to Lenny for a new user for your reason above is 1)
 Unnessesary to fix this problem, 2) can create more problems than he
 is trying to fix and 3) Lenny is not stable yet.
 

I don't really agree with that. Lenny already has very few RC bugs and
has been in freeze for quite a while. In my opinion Lenny would be
easier for a new user, as it will avoid the (often) troublesome upgrade
process.

Also, Lenny may include some updated video drivers that may or may not
fix Chris' problem; I don't see how trying to nip something like this in
the bud could create problems.

Though it's really up to Chris in the end anyway -- This is all just
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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-10 Thread Chris S
2009/1/10 Adrian Levi adrian.l...@gmail.com

 2009/1/10 Chris S cbs10...@googlemail.com:

  Ok, well still got bad frame rate any ideas, in reply to adrian.levi
 (thank
  you for your encouragement too) in previous post I haven't installed a
 video
  driver myself other than the one selected on install. I searched synaptic
  for 'video drivers' and got loads of things installed but not sure if I'm
  using the correct one, do you think this could be where the problem is,
 it
  would make sense. anyway thank you to all who have replied. Any advice or
  shall i start googling installing video drivers and get back to you all?

 I think nvidia-glx-legacy is what you need.

 This page will show you how and walk you through the steps.

 http://desiato.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.htmlhttp://desiato.tinyplanet.ca/%7Elsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.html

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Good morning, ok firstly thank you for all you help last night. I Just
successfully installed nvidia-glx-legacy from the how-to that was kindly
given, all stages completed with no error and I now get the nvidia logo when
X starts but no effect at all on the old problem, frame rate still about a
frame a second.

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-10 Thread Florian Kulzer
[ Please try to turn off the HTML part of your messages. ]

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:33:53 +, Chris S wrote:
 2009/1/10 Adrian Levi adrian.l...@gmail.com
  2009/1/10 Chris S cbs10...@googlemail.com:
 
   Ok, well still got bad frame rate any ideas, in reply to adrian.levi
  (thank
   you for your encouragement too) in previous post I haven't installed a
  video
   driver myself other than the one selected on install. I searched synaptic
   for 'video drivers' and got loads of things installed but not sure if I'm
   using the correct one, do you think this could be where the problem is,
  it
   would make sense. anyway thank you to all who have replied. Any advice or
   shall i start googling installing video drivers and get back to you all?
 
  I think nvidia-glx-legacy is what you need.
 
  This page will show you how and walk you through the steps.
 
  http://desiato.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.htmlhttp://desiato.tinyplanet.ca/%7Elsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.html

 Good morning, ok firstly thank you for all you help last night. I Just
 successfully installed nvidia-glx-legacy from the how-to that was kindly
 given, all stages completed with no error and I now get the nvidia logo when
 X starts but no effect at all on the old problem, frame rate still about a
 frame a second.

That sounds like the nvidia driver is working properly; nevertheless we
should check if there are any problems recorded in the Xorg log. Please
run this command in an X terminal and post the output here:

grep -E '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

Other possible bottlenecks to consider are CPU load and hard disk
access. AFAIK, the older versions of the flashplugin on Linux are not
very efficient in using hardware video acceleration, so most of the
rendering workload is put on the CPU. Check the CPU load with 'top' or
'htop' while you play a flash video. It is possible that Etch's
flashplugin is too inefficient to work nicely on your hardware. To check
your hard disk access speed, you can use the 'hdparm' command.

Another thing to try is to play a flash video with mplayer, which is
usually smarter in using video acceleration. While you have a youtube
video open in your browser, you should see the video file in /tmp/; it
will be called FlashXX, where XX is a random string. It should
be possible to play this file like this (replace XX):

mplayer /tmp/FlashXX

(Don't hesitate to ask for clarification and further details if
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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-10 Thread Chris S
2009/1/10 Florian Kulzer
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 [ Please try to turn off the HTML part of your messages. ]

 On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:33:53 +, Chris S wrote:
  2009/1/10 Adrian Levi adrian.l...@gmail.com
   2009/1/10 Chris S cbs10...@googlemail.com:
  
Ok, well still got bad frame rate any ideas, in reply to adrian.levi
   (thank
you for your encouragement too) in previous post I haven't installed
 a
   video
driver myself other than the one selected on install. I searched
 synaptic
for 'video drivers' and got loads of things installed but not sure if
 I'm
using the correct one, do you think this could be where the problem
 is,
   it
would make sense. anyway thank you to all who have replied. Any
 advice or
shall i start googling installing video drivers and get back to you
 all?
  
   I think nvidia-glx-legacy is what you need.
  
   This page will show you how and walk you through the steps.
  
  
 http://desiato.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.htmlhttp://desiato.tinyplanet.ca/%7Elsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.html
 
 http://desiato.tinyplanet.ca/%7Elsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.html
 

  Good morning, ok firstly thank you for all you help last night. I Just
  successfully installed nvidia-glx-legacy from the how-to that was kindly
  given, all stages completed with no error and I now get the nvidia logo
 when
  X starts but no effect at all on the old problem, frame rate still about
 a
  frame a second.

 That sounds like the nvidia driver is working properly; nevertheless we
 should check if there are any problems recorded in the Xorg log. Please
 run this command in an X terminal and post the output here:

 grep -E '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

 Other possible bottlenecks to consider are CPU load and hard disk
 access. AFAIK, the older versions of the flashplugin on Linux are not
 very efficient in using hardware video acceleration, so most of the
 rendering workload is put on the CPU. Check the CPU load with 'top' or
 'htop' while you play a flash video. It is possible that Etch's
 flashplugin is too inefficient to work nicely on your hardware. To check
 your hard disk access speed, you can use the 'hdparm' command.

 Another thing to try is to play a flash video with mplayer, which is
 usually smarter in using video acceleration. While you have a youtube
 video open in your browser, you should see the video file in /tmp/; it
 will be called FlashXX, where XX is a random string. It should
 be possible to play this file like this (replace XX):

 mplayer /tmp/FlashXX

 (Don't hesitate to ask for clarification and further details if
  necessary.)

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 Not sure how to turn off the html part of my messages (sorry)(I am using
googlemail) but have changed the outgoing message encoding setting from
'default' to unicode in the hope this helps?

Output of  grep -E '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log:

JessieJames:/home/chris# grep -E '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist.
(WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic does not exist.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ does not exist.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ does not exist.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 does not exist.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi does not exist.
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi does not exist.
(WW) The directory /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType does
not e xist.
(WW) NVIDIA(0): config file hsync range 30-70kHz not within DDC hsync
ranges.
(WW) NVIDIA(0): config file vrefresh range 50-160Hz not within DDC vrefresh
rang es.
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode 840x525 (height 1050 is larger than
(WW) NVIDIA(0):  EDID-specified maximum 768)
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode 700x525 (height 1050 is larger than
(WW) NVIDIA(0):  EDID-specified maximum 768)
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode 640x512 (height 1024 is larger than
(WW) NVIDIA(0):  EDID-specified maximum 768)
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode 720x450 (height 900 is larger than
(WW) NVIDIA(0):  EDID-specified maximum 768)
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode 640x480 (height 960 is larger than
(WW) NVIDIA(0):  EDID-specified maximum 768)
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode 640x400 (height 800 is larger than
(WW) NVIDIA(0):  EDID-specified maximum 768)
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode 576x432 (height 864 is larger than
(WW) NVIDIA(0):  EDID-specified maximum 768)
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode 576x384:
(WW) NVIDIA(0):   horizontal sync start (589) not a multiple of 8
(WW) NVIDIA(0): 

Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-10 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/10/09 11:31, Chris S wrote:
[snip]
 
BUT just this minute tried playing the flash file (that appears in /tmp 
when viedo currently streaming via u tube) with mplayer, and it works 
great through that, frame rate perfect Can someone now just please 
help me one last time, can I get mplayer to automatically play u tube 
videos as the player in the background on u tube itself? As otherwise I 
am forced to 'hijack' each video by stealing out of the /tmp directory.


clive is good for grabbing Flash videos and converting them to .mp4.

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-10 Thread Bob Cox
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 17:31:19 +, Chris S (cbs10...@googlemail.com) 
wrote: 

 Not sure how to turn off the html part of my messages (sorry)(I am using
 googlemail) but have changed the outgoing message encoding setting from
 'default' to unicode in the hope this helps?

No, your message is still in two parts: plain text and also html.

In Google mail, at the top of the box into which you type your message
or your reply, you should see a clickable link plain text which is
alongside the various rich formatting tools, such as font and text
colour.  Just click on this and you will be ok.

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-10 Thread Chris S
2009/1/10 Bob Cox debian-u...@lists.bobcox.com

 On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 17:31:19 +, Chris S (cbs10...@googlemail.com) 
 wrote:

  Not sure how to turn off the html part of my messages (sorry)(I am using
  googlemail) but have changed the outgoing message encoding setting from
  'default' to unicode in the hope this helps?

 No, your message is still in two parts: plain text and also html.

 In Google mail, at the top of the box into which you type your message
 or your reply, you should see a clickable link plain text which is
 alongside the various rich formatting tools, such as font and text
 colour.  Just click on this and you will be ok.

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Ok I'm happy to report that this will be my last message regarding
this problem, mplayer is just working perfectly, and when running
(even with big screen size) running htop shows that CPU load is only
running at 30- 40% max! So it was a video acceleration problem, I
wasn't even thinking in that direction, was convinced it was a flash
plug-in problem. I can't thank everyone enough for all the help you
have given me, I have learnt a lot and will be having fun from now on
learning how it all works. Thanks again everybody! your help was
really appreciated. If there is an offical 'Solved' stamp type thing
please use it. Thanks again.
Oh and I think I finally got rid of the html, I'll know in the future.
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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-10 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:49:18 -0600
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

...

 clive is good for grabbing Flash videos and converting them to .mp4.

I'm not sure that there's generally any need to convert them; mplayer is
perfectly happy with files with .flv extensions.

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Daryl Styrk
Chris S wrote:
 Hello everyone genius type people,
 Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you guys)
 and nearly zero about linux/debian, however after my friend had a rather
 fatal problem with windows recently I decided to try Debian and I love it.
 So I installed the lastest stable version, etch, and have very nearly got a
 system with the same functionality as the old windows system however I
 simply cannot seem to get u tube videos to play correctly., under windows
 they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about the
 further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let me know
 what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the details. I have
 googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything that directly
 helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong.
 


http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-install-adobe-flash-in-debian-etchlennysid.html


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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Pobega
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 10:38:34PM +, Chris S wrote:
 Hello everyone genius type people,
 Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you guys)
 and nearly zero about linux/debian, however after my friend had a rather
 fatal problem with windows recently I decided to try Debian and I love it.
 So I installed the lastest stable version, etch, and have very nearly got a
 system with the same functionality as the old windows system however I
 simply cannot seem to get u tube videos to play correctly., under windows
 they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about the
 further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let me know
 what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the details. I have
 googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything that directly
 helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong.
 

I'm not trying to say something completely useless here, but perhaps you
should try updated to Lenny? Etch is soon to be an unsupported version
of Debian, so I would honestly upgrade before getting into anything.

Anyway, I've had lots of problems with flash in Debian, so I eventually
dumped it. For my YouTube fix I'm using a Greasemonkey script[1] to play
YouTube videos in mplayer (for this you'll need the mplayer browser
plugin)

Also, for simpler problems like this, perhaps #debian is more suitable?
You'll get quicker answers to these questions instead of waiting for
hours.

[1]http://www.gc-group.dk/youtube/


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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Adrian Levi
2009/1/10 Michael Pobega pob...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 10:38:34PM +, Chris S wrote:
 Hello everyone genius type people,
 Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you guys)

 they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about the
 further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let me know
 what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the details. I have
 googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything that directly
 helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong.

 I'm not trying to say something completely useless here, but perhaps you
 should try updated to Lenny? Etch is soon to be an unsupported version
 of Debian, so I would honestly upgrade before getting into anything.

Yes it is soon to be oldstable but security fixes will still apply to
it for some time.

Updating to Lenny for a new user for your reason above is 1)
Unnessesary to fix this problem, 2) can create more problems than he
is trying to fix and 3) Lenny is not stable yet.

To the OP: If your video is jerky, what are you running as a video
driver? One that just worked from the install or one that you
installed yourself?

If your running an nVidia chipset I have found that the free nv
driver works but I suffer poor frame rates with it to the point of
DVD's being very difficult to watch.

Can you give us the output of lspci and lsmod.

Adrian

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Chris S
2009/1/9 Michael Pobega pob...@gmail.com

 On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 10:38:34PM +, Chris S wrote:
  Hello everyone genius type people,
  Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you
 guys)
  and nearly zero about linux/debian, however after my friend had a rather
  fatal problem with windows recently I decided to try Debian and I love
 it.
  So I installed the lastest stable version, etch, and have very nearly got
 a
  system with the same functionality as the old windows system however I
  simply cannot seem to get u tube videos to play correctly., under windows
  they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about
 the
  further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let me
 know
  what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the details. I
 have
  googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything that directly
  helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong.
 

 I'm not trying to say something completely useless here, but perhaps you
 should try updated to Lenny? Etch is soon to be an unsupported version
 of Debian, so I would honestly upgrade before getting into anything.

 Anyway, I've had lots of problems with flash in Debian, so I eventually
 dumped it. For my YouTube fix I'm using a Greasemonkey script[1] to play
 YouTube videos in mplayer (for this you'll need the mplayer browser
 plugin)

 Also, for simpler problems like this, perhaps #debian is more suitable?
 You'll get quicker answers to these questions instead of waiting for
 hours.

 [1]http://www.gc-group.dk/youtube/


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Hi thanks, ok not sure what to do, I started using the method given in url
with details to follow, I hope however that I haven't posted to the wrong
mailing list I am not sure what you mean by '#debain' sorry, its probably
something obvous, a different mailing list for idiots? On your second point
upgrading, yeah ok no problem, so to be clear is your advice to upgarde to
lenny, and then use the Greasemonkey script[1] rather than flash plug in. PS
thank you for you patience epsecially if I'm in the wrong place. Oh and I'll
copy what I was going to send before I got the second reply below

2009/1/9 Daryl Styrk darylst...@gmail.com

Chris S wrote:
 Hello everyone genius type people,
 Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you
guys)
 and nearly zero about linux/debian, however after my friend had a
rather
 fatal problem with windows recently I decided to try Debian and I love
it.
 So I installed the lastest stable version, etch, and have very nearly
got a
 system with the same functionality as the old windows system however I
 simply cannot seem to get u tube videos to play correctly., under
windows
 they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure
about the
 further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let
me know
 what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the details.
I have
 googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything that directly
 helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong.




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Ok thanks, I attempted the first method listed but am having problems,
should I try a different method or continue and work through the problems
using the first, following method one as follows, amended sources.list it
now reads as follows
#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r4a _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST
Binary-1 20080804-15:10]/ etch contrib main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r4a _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1
20080804-15:10]/ etch contrib main

deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free
deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main
deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib

then ran apt-get update and had follwing problems

JessieJames:~# apt-get update
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r4a _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST
Binary-1 20 080804-15:10] etch Release.gpg
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r4a _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST
Binary-1 20 080804-15:10] etch Release
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r4a _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST
Binary-1 20 080804-15:10] etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r4a _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST
Binary-1 20 080804-15:10] etch/main 

Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Chris S
2009/1/10 Adrian Levi adrian.l...@gmail.com

 2009/1/10 Michael Pobega pob...@gmail.com:
  On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 10:38:34PM +, Chris S wrote:
  Hello everyone genius type people,
  Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you
 guys)

  they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about
 the
  further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let me
 know
  what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the details. I
 have
  googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything that directly
  helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong.

  I'm not trying to say something completely useless here, but perhaps you
  should try updated to Lenny? Etch is soon to be an unsupported version
  of Debian, so I would honestly upgrade before getting into anything.

 Yes it is soon to be oldstable but security fixes will still apply to
 it for some time.

 Updating to Lenny for a new user for your reason above is 1)
 Unnessesary to fix this problem, 2) can create more problems than he
 is trying to fix and 3) Lenny is not stable yet.

 To the OP: If your video is jerky, what are you running as a video
 driver? One that just worked from the install or one that you
 installed yourself?

 If your running an nVidia chipset I have found that the free nv
 driver works but I suffer poor frame rates with it to the point of
 DVD's being very difficult to watch.

 Can you give us the output of lspci and lsmod.

 Adrian

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 Ok with respect to the preson who advised upgarding as I'm getting
conflictling advice on this issue I'm going to hang back on that for now,
I'm sending output requested
JessieJames:/home/chris# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 730 Host (rev 02)
00:00.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS85C503/5513 (LPC
Bridge)
00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI
Fast Et hernet (rev 82)
00:01.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller
(rev  07)
00:01.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller
(rev  07)
00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS
PCI Au dio Accelerator (rev 02)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual PCI-to-PCI
bridge ( AGP)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2
Model 64 /Model 64 Pro] (rev 15)
and...
JessieJames:/home/chris# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
ipv6  213984  8
ppdev   8708  0
lp 10948  0
button  6800  0
ac  5252  0
battery 9732  0
xt_tcpudp   3200  73
ipt_TOS 2432  34
ipt_tos 1792  0
ipt_TCPMSS  4224  2
xt_tcpmss   2432  0
ipt_LOG 6016  39
ipt_REJECT  5248  0
iptable_nat 7044  0
ip_nat 16428  1 iptable_nat
iptable_mangle  2944  1
iptable_filter  3200  1
xt_multiport3328  0
xt_state2304  13
xt_limit2816  40
xt_conntrack2688  0
ip_conntrack_ftp7536  0
ip_conntrack   47156  5
iptable_nat,ip_nat,xt_state,xt_conntrack,ip_conntrack_ftp
nfnetlink   6680  2 ip_nat,ip_conntrack
ip_tables  12104  3 iptable_nat,iptable_mangle,iptable_filter
x_tables   12932  13
xt_tcpudp,ipt_TOS,ipt_tos,ipt_TCPMSS,xt_tcpmss,ipt_LOG,ipt_REJECT,iptable_nat,xt_multiport,xt_state,xt_limit,xt_conntrack,ip_tables
dm_snapshot15644  0
dm_mirror  18000  0
dm_mod 48952  2 dm_snapshot,dm_mirror
loop   14216  0
snd_trident37156  2
snd_ac97_codec 82848  1 snd_trident
snd_ac97_bus2432  1 snd_ac97_codec
tsdev   7616  0
snd_pcm_oss38048  1
snd_mixer_oss  15232  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm65928  3 snd_trident,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc 10248  2 snd_trident,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem4736  1 snd_trident
snd_seq_dummy   3972  0
snd_seq_oss27648  0
snd_seq_midi8352  0
snd_mpu401  7528  0
snd_mpu401_uart 7552  2 snd_trident,snd_mpu401
snd_seq_midi_event  6784  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq42192  6
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer  19972  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_rawmidi22048  

Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Chris S
2009/1/10 Bernie Dolan b...@dolanlane.net

  On Etch do the following:

 open a console and log in as root and type:

 *echo* *deb* *http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main
 contrib  /etc/apt/sources.list*

 *gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 16BA136C *
 *gpg --export | apt-key add -*

 *aptitude update*
 *aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree*


 Enjoy Youtube


 On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 22:38 +, Chris S wrote:

 Hello everyone genius type people,
 Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you guys)
 and nearly zero about linux/debian, however after my friend had a rather
 fatal problem with windows recently I decided to try Debian and I love it.
 So I installed the lastest stable version, etch, and have very nearly got a
 system with the same functionality as the old windows system however I
 simply cannot seem to get u tube videos to play correctly., under windows
 they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about the
 further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let me know
 what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the details. I have
 googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything that directly
 helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong.

 --
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   *Bernie Dolan*
 *...@dolanlane.net*
 *Beatings will continue until morale improves.*


reult from last advice seemed to install ok details to follow but no affect
on the frame rate on u tube, I get a picture update about one a sec and a
half, I know it can't be hardware as nothing has changed in hardware or
connection speed, oh and when I right click the video and go to ? it lists
on the website that loads that I am running version 9,0,152,0 should this
not be 10.something? sending result or last advice now

JessieJames:/home/chris#  echo deb
http://www.backports.org/debianetch-bac kports main contrib 
/etc/apt/sources.list
JessieJames:/home/chris#
JessieJames:/home/chris# gpg --keyserver
hkp://subkeys.pgp.net--recv-keys 1 6BA136C
gpg: directory `/root/.gnupg' created
gpg: can't open `/gnupg/options.skel': No such file or directory
gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created
gpg: requesting key 16BA136C from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
gpg: /root/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created
gpg: key 16BA136C: public key Backports.org Archive Key
ftp-mas...@backports.o rg imported
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:   imported: 1
JessieJames:/home/chris# gpg --export | apt-key add -
OK
JessieJames:/home/chris#
JessieJames:/home/chris# aptitude update
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r4a _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST
Binary-1 20 080804-15:10] etch Release.gpg
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r4a _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST
Binary-1 20 080804-15:10] etch Release
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r4a _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST
Binary-1 20 080804-15:10] etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r4a _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST
Binary-1 20 080804-15:10] etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Get:1 http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch Release.gpg [386B]
Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch Release
Get:2 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [189B]
Get:3 http://www.backports.org etch-backports Release.gpg [189B]
Get:4 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release.gpg [197B]
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release
Get:5 http://http.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg [386B]
Hit http://www.backports.org etch-backports Release
Hit http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release
Hit http://http.us.debian.org etch Release
Ign http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/main Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/non-free Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/main Packages
Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/non-free Packages
Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/main Sources
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/non-free Sources
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://www.backports.org etch-backports/main Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources
Hit http://www.backports.org etch-backports/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://www.backports.org etch-backports/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://www.backports.org etch-backports/main Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://www.backports.org etch-backports/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Hit 

Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/09/09 16:38, Chris S wrote:

Hello everyone genius type people,
Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you guys)
and nearly zero about linux/debian, however after my friend had a rather
fatal problem with windows recently I decided to try Debian and I love it.
So I installed the lastest stable version, etch, and have very nearly got a
system with the same functionality as the old windows system however I
simply cannot seem to get u tube videos to play correctly., under windows
they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about the
further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let me know
what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the details. I have
googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything that directly
helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong.


So, you're using a Riva TNT2/64 card.  God, but that's ancient!

I recommend that you:
a) replace that ancient card with an trailing edge card.  Something 
in the GeForce 7xxx range,

b) completely change your sources.list to the attached file,
c) upgrade to Lenny,
d) install the binary Flash driver from adobe-flashplugin.

Remember that since Debian is totally foreign to you, there will be 
problems.  Find a local LUG (Linux Users Group), and attach yourself 
to them at the hip.  Many will gladly come to your house and help in 
exchange for a 6-pack of beer.


If Debian is still too daunting and you need something a little less 
daunting, you might want to wipe Debian and use a more noob-friendly 
distro until you get more expert with Linux.  That's what I had to 
do, many years ago.


--
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

I am not surprised, for we live long and are celebrated poopers.
deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main


Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Bernie Dolan
On Etch do the following:

open a console and log in as root and type: 

echo deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main
contrib  /etc/apt/sources.list 

gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 16BA136C 
gpg --export | apt-key add -

aptitude update 
aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree


Enjoy Youtube

On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 22:38 +, Chris S wrote:

 Hello everyone genius type people,
 Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you
 guys) and nearly zero about linux/debian, however after my friend had
 a rather fatal problem with windows recently I decided to try Debian
 and I love it. So I installed the lastest stable version, etch, and
 have very nearly got a system with the same functionality as the old
 windows system however I simply cannot seem to get u tube videos to
 play correctly., under windows they ran perfectlly but now the video
 is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about the further details you require and
 so instead of guessing could you let me know what you need (and maybe
 how to find it) I will send you the details. I have googled myself to
 near insanity but cannot find anything that directly helps. My
 apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong.
 
 -- 
 OM MANI PADME HUM
 

Bernie Dolan
b...@dolanlane.net
Beatings will continue until morale improves.


Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Chris S
2009/1/10 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net

 On 01/09/09 16:38, Chris S wrote:

 Hello everyone genius type people,
 Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you
 guys)
 and nearly zero about linux/debian, however after my friend had a rather
 fatal problem with windows recently I decided to try Debian and I love it.
 So I installed the lastest stable version, etch, and have very nearly got
 a
 system with the same functionality as the old windows system however I
 simply cannot seem to get u tube videos to play correctly., under windows
 they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about
 the
 further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let me
 know
 what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the details. I
 have
 googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything that directly
 helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong.


 So, you're using a Riva TNT2/64 card.  God, but that's ancient!

 I recommend that you:
 a) replace that ancient card with an trailing edge card.  Something in the
 GeForce 7xxx range,
 b) completely change your sources.list to the attached file,
 c) upgrade to Lenny,
 d) install the binary Flash driver from adobe-flashplugin.

 Remember that since Debian is totally foreign to you, there will be
 problems.  Find a local LUG (Linux Users Group), and attach yourself to them
 at the hip.  Many will gladly come to your house and help in exchange for a
 6-pack of beer.

 If Debian is still too daunting and you need something a little less
 daunting, you might want to wipe Debian and use a more noob-friendly distro
 until you get more expert with Linux.  That's what I had to do, many years
 ago.

 --
 Ron Johnson, Jr.
 Jefferson LA  USA

 I am not surprised, for we live long and are celebrated poopers.

 deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free
 deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free
 deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main


--' So, you're using a Riva TNT2/64 card.  God, but that's ancient!'
Yeah smile I know but it was a free PC my mate got given I COULD update the
card but I know it must be capable of running ok as it worked just fine with
the 'Other' OS

---' b) completely change your sources.list to the attached file,
c) upgrade to Lenny,
d) install the binary Flash driver from adobe-flashplugin.'
Well a few have said this but at least one has said upgrading may not be
requried, I have no problem doing this if this is required.

---'Remember that since Debian is totally foreign to you, there will be
problems.  Find a local LUG (Linux Users Group), and attach yourself to them
at the hip.  Many will gladly come to your house and help in exchange for a
6-pack of beer.'
I'll google this idea and fill up the fridge

---'If Debian is still too daunting and you need something a little less
daunting, you might want to wipe Debian and use a more noob-friendly distro
until you get more expert with Linux.  That's what I had to do, many years
ago.'
WELL, I will promise to leave you guy's alone if needed but I'm loving
playing aroung with it seeing who it works, I not giving up, if i can just
get this last bit working my mate won't complain and I can spend the next
year 'playing with alll the lovely commands etc.



-- 
OM MANI PADME HUM


Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Adrian Levi
2009/1/10 Chris S cbs10...@googlemail.com:

 Well a few have said this but at least one has said upgrading may not be
 requried, I have no problem doing this if this is required.

I said that.

I am a believer in fix one problem at a time. Find out why your frame
rates are bad before you possibly introduce more problems that you
have to deal with then still fix the original problem that your trying
to struggle with.

Etch is stable, many if not all of the problems with it have been
encountered and fixed already. You can be reasonably sure that any
problems you encounter are going to be a configuration issue instead
of faulty software.

Lenny is soon to be stable, works well and most likely you won't have
any problems with it, I don't believe that updating the OS when the
root cause is yet to be found is a sound course of action. Of course
you can install anything you like and it's relatively easy to
reinstall to fix problems while you are learning a new operating
system.

Don't be afraid to make mistakes, we all have (and do) and above all,
don't let Linux intimidate you.

IMHO picking Debian as a first Linux distribution is a good choice as
things aren't hidden from you - when you encounter a problem you will
see what goes on behind the scenes and learn how to fix it.

Adrian

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/09/09 19:10, Chris S wrote:
[snip]

WELL, I will promise to leave you guy's alone if needed but I'm loving
playing aroung with it seeing who it works, I not giving up, if i can just
get this last bit working my mate won't complain and I can spend the next
year 'playing with alll the lovely commands etc.


Please don't think I'm trying to give you the brush off, but some 
problems are best solved closer to home.


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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Chris S
2009/1/10 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net

 On 01/09/09 19:10, Chris S wrote:
 [snip]

 WELL, I will promise to leave you guy's alone if needed but I'm loving
 playing aroung with it seeing who it works, I not giving up, if i can just
 get this last bit working my mate won't complain and I can spend the next
 year 'playing with alll the lovely commands etc.


 Please don't think I'm trying to give you the brush off, but some problems
 are best solved closer to home.

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 'but some problems are best solved closer to home.?'
This sounds soemthing that a Zen Buddhist would say.

Ok, well still got bad frame rate any ideas, in reply to adrian.levi (thank
you for your encouragement too) in previous post I haven't installed a video
driver myself other than the one selected on install. I searched synaptic
for 'video drivers' and got loads of things installed but not sure if I'm
using the correct one, do you think this could be where the problem is, it
would make sense. anyway thank you to all who have replied. Any advice or
shall i start googling installing video drivers and get back to you all?


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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Adrian Levi
2009/1/10 Chris S cbs10...@googlemail.com:

 Ok, well still got bad frame rate any ideas, in reply to adrian.levi (thank
 you for your encouragement too) in previous post I haven't installed a video
 driver myself other than the one selected on install. I searched synaptic
 for 'video drivers' and got loads of things installed but not sure if I'm
 using the correct one, do you think this could be where the problem is, it
 would make sense. anyway thank you to all who have replied. Any advice or
 shall i start googling installing video drivers and get back to you all?

I think nvidia-glx-legacy is what you need.

This page will show you how and walk you through the steps.

http://desiato.tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.html

Adrian
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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Ron Johnson

On 01/09/09 19:46, Chris S wrote:
[snip]


Ok, well still got bad frame rate any ideas, in reply to adrian.levi 
(thank you for your encouragement too) in previous post I haven't 
installed a video driver myself other than the one selected on install. 
I searched synaptic for 'video drivers' and got loads of things 
installed but not sure if I'm using the correct one, do you think this 
could be where the problem is, it would make sense. anyway thank you to 
all who have replied. Any advice or shall i start googling installing 
video drivers and get back to you all?


Run these from a term window:
   $ grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
   $ grep /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers /var/log/Xorg.0.log

(No $, of course.)

They should tell you which driver you are running.

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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 2009 January 09 18:14:31 Adrian Levi wrote:
2009/1/10 Michael Pobega pob...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 10:38:34PM +, Chris S wrote:
 Hello everyone genius type people,
 Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you
 guys)

 they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about
 the further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let
 me know what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the
 details. I have googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything
 that directly helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing
 something wrong.

 I'm not trying to say something completely useless here, but perhaps you
 should try updated to Lenny? Etch is soon to be an unsupported version
 of Debian.

Not true.  oldstable still gets support for a least a few months, to give 
system administrators time to schedule and complete an upgrade to stable.

Yes it is soon to be oldstable but security fixes will still apply to
it for some time.

For example, Etch became stable on 2007-04-08, but there was another update to 
Sarge on 2007-12-28, and it didn't completely drop from security support 
until at least 2008-02-29, and had it's final update on 2008-04-13, more than 
a year after the Etch release.

Generally, as long a security supports it bp.org will still provide new 
software for it, from time to time.

Still, Lenny actually has fewer RC bugs than Etch, so it is probably worth the 
upgrade.
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Re: Help with u tube video streaming

2009-01-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 2009 January 09 18:48:22 Chris S wrote:
oh and when I right click the video and go to ? it lists
on the website that loads that I am running version 9,0,152,0 should this
not be 10.something? sending result or last advice now

Etch is stable, mostly unchanging, and was released last year.  Adobe did not 
have a 10.* version for Linux available at that time, so Etch does not have a 
10.* version.  I don't think 10.* is required for most sites though.

If you absolutely need 10.*, you may have luck searching the mailing list 
archives.  There was a discussion about installing 10.* last month, IIRC.
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