Re: noteboot install
On Thu, 12 Dec 1996 10:04:12 EST Tim Sailer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I'm having to do a scratch install of debian 1.2 on 2 Toshiba Tecra 500CDT notebooks, and I'm slowly losing my mind from lack of sleep. It took an hour or so of fiddling to finally come up with 'disable all cache' to get the machine to boot from the floppy. Everything else went fairly normal, but a little slow. I copied the pcmcia stuff via floppy, then configured the card, nice and smooth. Now the fun started. From a local (on the ethernet) mirror, installing the rest of the packages with dselect via nfs took 5 hours! This is a p5-133 folks! Now, using loadlin to try to boot failed with the normal error I've seen about not enough memory, so I installed lilo, rebooted into DOS, enabled the cache, and rebooted... and rebooted... and rebooted. It gets to Uncompressing Linux, and reboots. If it only comes to `uncompressing linux`, the kernel has not started yet, and you probably have some cache problems and/or timing problem. Try the more conservative settings and then raise them progressively. OK.. I'm fairly intelligent (so I think). It must be the kernel, with all the compiled in goodies. I disabled the cache and rebooted, and am now recompiling the kernel I think it won't solve your problem. still compiling after *7 hours*! And... it died with How much memory do hou have ? 7 hours seems quite long, even without cache... unreferenced symbols at the vmlinux linking. Does anyone have any ideas about speeding this up? Did you compile the kernel correctly ? 1) make config 2) make depend 3) make clean 4) make zImage Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: noteboot install
Philippe == Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: still compiling after *7 hours*! And... it died with Philippe How much memory do hou have ? 7 hours seems quite long, Philippe even without cache... You'd be surprised what turning off cache can do to your computer. For instance my PPro200 took 10minutes to boot when I turned off cache (and I didn't even get to see X start up properly, since I managed to switch over to the console to shut the beast down). I have a feeling that turning cache off hurts performance significantly more than not having it in the first place, not sure why. On the other had, PPro on-chip cache might be a whole different beast than a normal L2 cache. Gleb -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: noteboot install
In your email to me, Richard G. Roberto, you wrote: Tim, I did an install on one of these for my boss and I did it using 1.1 boot + root floppy + 1.1 base.tgz. I installed the 2.0.6 kernel and pcmcia stuff from floppy with no problem. Then I did an ftp install from dselect using frozen and it took about 2 hours to complete! I had some initial trouble getting the pcmcia ethernet card configured, but after I got past that, I had none of the problems you speak of. I also run in a dual boot mode (Win95+Debian), but I use the FreeBSD boot manager (beta version) which is graphical and very good (only works from DOS though). I have since compiled my own custom 2.0.24 kernel and pcmcia modules/tools and it took about 45 minutes for all of that. Actually, I got the kernel recompiled, and it now boots. Booting with a 'buzz' install disk seems to work. It was just the rescue disk from 'rex'. I think you may need to take a look at what's running, what errors are being logged to syslog/klog and what your resource usage is like. I had 40MB of RAM and a 100MB swap partition in the 500CDT I installed on. You may also need to take a look at some disk I/O statistics. I'm not sure how to do that on a Linux box. Anybody? In any case, it sounds to me like you should definitely get some sleep first. Take a fresh look at it after that. There may be something very silly that's set up wrong, but you won't find it on 30 minutes sleep every 50 hours! Heh.. I got 4 hours last night. Now, I can get the system up and running with the pcmcia stuff in, but then the builtin mouse doesn't work. If I kill off cardmgr and rmmod the pcmcia modules, the mouse works... sheesh Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Too much information running through my brain, too much information, driving me insane. -- The Police ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: noteboot install
In your email to me, Philippe Troin, you wrote: If it only comes to `uncompressing linux`, the kernel has not started yet, and you probably have some cache problems and/or timing problem. Try the more conservative settings and then raise them progressively. Heh.. 'on' or 'off' not real good.. :( OK.. I'm fairly intelligent (so I think). It must be the kernel, with all the compiled in goodies. I disabled the cache and rebooted, and am now recompiling the kernel I think it won't solve your problem. It actually did! And after the fact, I tried the old buzz boot disk, and that worked... or it at least booted the system! still compiling after *7 hours*! And... it died with How much memory do hou have ? 7 hours seems quite long, even without cache... It has 16 MB ram and 32 mb swap. unreferenced symbols at the vmlinux linking. Does anyone have any ideas about speeding this up? Did you compile the kernel correctly ? 1) make config 2) make depend 3) make clean 4) make zImage Yup... actually, I got the same unref vars on 2 other systems (PPro HPs) (which, BTW, don't boot with the new disks.. hangs after the Goldstar CD), and just running make dep again solved the problem. It seems that the arp/rarp stuff in make config is the problem... Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps Too much information running through my brain, too much information, driving me insane. -- The Police ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
