subject:"X problems"

Re: X problems in Stretch with AMD APU?

2017-08-21 Thread Greg Wooledge

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 10:19:59PM +0200, Alle Meije Wink wrote:
> I have a home theatre PC with an AMD A6-3500 APU. Bit of an oldie but still
> plays everything fine. The drivers supplied by the Jessie repositories
> (including fglrx for hardware acceleration) worked fine.
> 
> But then I upgraded to Stretch and suddenly started without X. The debian
> supplied drivers don't seem to support the A6 any more?

Start with:

lspci -nn
dmesg | grep -i firmware

If there are any firmware loading errors, these would probably
indicate a need to install some non-free firmware packages
(e.g. firmware-amd-graphics).

Installing amd64-microcode probably wouldn't hurt either, though it
probably won't have an immediately noticeable effect on your graphics.

Re: X problems in Stretch with AMD APU?

2017-08-20 Thread Zoltán Herman

Hi Alle,

the 4.9 kernel already has amd graphics support, but it needs firmware,
others do not have to(perhaps mesa, opengl, opencl). The X window must be
on the radeon driver.

If I were upgrading then I would always install a new one and switch
off the old(or will be secondary hdd :)
(Even if I sacrifice three days)

systemctl status bluetooth ?

Greetings
Zoltán

2017-08-20 11:14 GMT+02:00 Alle Meije Wink :

> I'm running 4.11
>
> Got a bit further by removing the MESA libraries for GLX support. That
> removed many graphics applications and libraries. Then added
> xserver-xorg-core again and now X starts again.
>
> Some work to do because my (wireless USB) keyboard is not recognised in
> the x session but that should be doable. So it looks like it's OK again but
> not sure what the crucial step was...
>
> On 20 Aug 2017 00:54, "Zoltán Herman"  wrote:
>
>> And what kind of kernel is installed 4.9 or 4.11?
>> Check the kernel log to see if the firmware has been loaded.
>>
>> >>
>> I have a home theatre PC with an AMD A6-3500 APU. Bit of an oldie but
>> still plays everything fine. The drivers supplied by the Jessie
>> repositories (including fglrx for hardware acceleration) worked fine.
>>
>> But then I upgraded to Stretch and suddenly started without X. The debian
>> supplied drivers don't seem to support the A6 any more?
>>
>> I got everything working again 3 weeks ago by installing the proprietary
>> drivers (catalyst 15.9). But now X has gone again and the same catalyst
>> package refuses to install.
>>
>> The error message that the installer gives is that the X version is too
>> low for catalyst?
>>
>> Then I removed (--purge) xserver-xorg-core and reinstalled it. But when I
>> now start X it says 'no screens found'..
>>
>> Is there a way to get the AMD APUs off that generation working in Stretch
>> working again?
>>
>> Or to at least start X again (with a very low resolution, assuming basic
>> hardware)?
>> <<
>> Add non-free to sources.list
>> update
>> install firmware-amd-graphics
>> etc.
>> <<.
>>
>

Re: X problems in Stretch with AMD APU?

2017-08-20 Thread Alle Meije Wink

I'm running 4.11

Got a bit further by removing the MESA libraries for GLX support. That
removed many graphics applications and libraries. Then added
xserver-xorg-core again and now X starts again.

Some work to do because my (wireless USB) keyboard is not recognised in the
x session but that should be doable. So it looks like it's OK again but not
sure what the crucial step was...

On 20 Aug 2017 00:54, "Zoltán Herman"  wrote:

> And what kind of kernel is installed 4.9 or 4.11?
> Check the kernel log to see if the firmware has been loaded.
>
> >>
> I have a home theatre PC with an AMD A6-3500 APU. Bit of an oldie but
> still plays everything fine. The drivers supplied by the Jessie
> repositories (including fglrx for hardware acceleration) worked fine.
>
> But then I upgraded to Stretch and suddenly started without X. The debian
> supplied drivers don't seem to support the A6 any more?
>
> I got everything working again 3 weeks ago by installing the proprietary
> drivers (catalyst 15.9). But now X has gone again and the same catalyst
> package refuses to install.
>
> The error message that the installer gives is that the X version is too
> low for catalyst?
>
> Then I removed (--purge) xserver-xorg-core and reinstalled it. But when I
> now start X it says 'no screens found'..
>
> Is there a way to get the AMD APUs off that generation working in Stretch
> working again?
>
> Or to at least start X again (with a very low resolution, assuming basic
> hardware)?
> <<
> Add non-free to sources.list
> update
> install firmware-amd-graphics
> etc.
> <<.
>

X problems in Stretch with AMD APU?

2017-08-19 Thread Zoltán Herman

And what kind of kernel is installed 4.9 or 4.11?
Check the kernel log to see if the firmware has been loaded.

>>
I have a home theatre PC with an AMD A6-3500 APU. Bit of an oldie but still
plays everything fine. The drivers supplied by the Jessie repositories
(including fglrx for hardware acceleration) worked fine.

But then I upgraded to Stretch and suddenly started without X. The debian
supplied drivers don't seem to support the A6 any more?

I got everything working again 3 weeks ago by installing the proprietary
drivers (catalyst 15.9). But now X has gone again and the same catalyst
package refuses to install.

The error message that the installer gives is that the X version is too low
for catalyst?

Then I removed (--purge) xserver-xorg-core and reinstalled it. But when I
now start X it says 'no screens found'..

Is there a way to get the AMD APUs off that generation working in Stretch
working again?

Or to at least start X again (with a very low resolution, assuming basic
hardware)?
<<
Add non-free to sources.list
update
install firmware-amd-graphics
etc.
<<.

X problems in Stretch with AMD APU?

2017-08-19 Thread Alle Meije Wink

I have a home theatre PC with an AMD A6-3500 APU. Bit of an oldie but still
plays everything fine. The drivers supplied by the Jessie repositories
(including fglrx for hardware acceleration) worked fine.

But then I upgraded to Stretch and suddenly started without X. The debian
supplied drivers don't seem to support the A6 any more?

I got everything working again 3 weeks ago by installing the proprietary
drivers (catalyst 15.9). But now X has gone again and the same catalyst
package refuses to install.

The error message that the installer gives is that the X version is too low
for catalyst?

Then I removed (--purge) xserver-xorg-core and reinstalled it. But when I
now start X it says 'no screens found'..

Is there a way to get the AMD APUs off that generation working in Stretch
working again?

Or to at least start X again (with a very low resolution, assuming basic
hardware)?

squeeze, amd64 and X problems, perhaps nvidia related

2009-12-20 Thread Anders Lennartssson

Some experiences with squeeze on a laptop.

0) The problems below are (at least for me) tricky to debug. I'm
asking for hints
on how to obtain more information about what goes on so that I can make a
formal bug report.

1) I'm experiencing some bugs with X on a laptop, either at wakeup or suddenly
in the middle of a seemingly normal session. It does not really lock,
but it totally
borks my screen by replacing tiles of the original screen content on
other places
of the screen area so it does look somewhat of a caleidoscope image. The
replacing may continue for 5-10 seconds and the limits between different tiles
are somewhat fuzzy though. Sometimes the computer becomes extremeley
slow and the cursor moves now and then in short steps. On one occasion I
think it actually did lock, i.e. I think that X did not accept any
input, and then I
had to shutdown by the power button.

2) In some instances I have been able to shutdown the computer by
painstakingly slow X moves. When it reboots everything is normal.

3) On other occasions I have been able to switch to a virtual terminal
where no image/text is shown. Nevertheless I have been able to log
in blindly as root and request a reboot.

4) A couple of times the same stuff has happened at wakeup. Interestingly,
after closing the lid, waiting a short while so that it goes to sleep again, and
opening the lid, the computer made a normal wakeup!

5) Further, the problem of non-existant screen output on virtual consoles
have occured at several other times. Apparently, the VTs do in fact
function but it without text it is difficult to use them.

6) The problems occur on my Dell M2400 laptop on which I run Debian
for amd64. I started out with lenny but several weeks ago I upgraded to
squeeze in order to get later versions of some packages.
I run nvidia stuff from sid. The problems were present both with nvidia
version 185.18.36-2. and the current 194.42-3. I am using kde and the
2.6.31 kernel
from sid from which uname -a reports:

Linux laptop 2.6.31-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Oct 24 17:50:31 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux

but I have seen the problem with the squeeze kernel 2.6.30 as well.

The M2400 has a nvidia graphics card of type FX370M card for which
lspci reports:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 06fb (rev a1)

The nvidia packages installed are:
i nvidia-glx - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver
i nvidia-glx-ia32 - NVIDIA binary
driver 32bit libs
i nvidia-kernel-2.6.30-2-amd64 - NVIDIA binary kernel module
for Linux 2.6.30-2-amd64
i nvidia-kernel-2.6.31-1-amd64 - NVIDIA binary kernel module
for Linux 2.6.31-1-amd64
i A nvidia-kernel-common - NVIDIA binary kernel module
common files
i nvidia-kernel-source - NVIDIA binary kernel
module source
i nvidia-settings - Tool for
configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
i nvidia-xconfig - The NVIDIA X
Configuration Tool

7) With lenny there were not any of these problems. In order to get
X working and sleep/hibernate I had to use a backported 2.6.30 or 31
kernel from backports, and the nvidia drivers from sid. This suggests
that the problems I'm experiencing now are are related to the squeeze
configuration.

Anders

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Re: X problems

2007-06-22 Thread Jose Rodriguez

On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 05:30:11 +0200
Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 6/21/07, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  To enable hardware acceleration, In the Module section of
  xorg.conf you should load dri. So the corresponding stanza
  in /etc/X11/xorg.conf will look like
 
  Section Module
# bunch of load statements here
Load dri
# bunch of load statements here
  EndSection
 
So, does /var/log/Xorg.0.log tell you anything about DRI being
enabled or not? If not, you may want to try to use 16 bits depth,
I read somewhere it was needed to get the acceleration to work
with that card. Also, I believe too that the best way to proceed
is to take a careful look at the xorg.conf file from the Ubuntu
CD, I dont't think there's anything fundamentally different, must
be some settings here and there.


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X problems

2007-06-21 Thread Zach


Greetings,

I recently tried out a fairly recent Ubuntu boot CD (just to test it -
no plans on switching from Debian which I love) and was surprised to
see that my X desktop looked so much better: it was brighter and even
in the gnome-term and xterm I tried the fonts seemed better contrast,
more crisp! I wonder what Ubuntu is doing that my  X.org didn't do? I
was running XFree86 before and also had same issues: my display was
noticeably less bright and same issue with fonts, X.org package did
automagically setup my /etc/X11/xorg.conf and everything seems to work
fine except these 2 issues could obviously be better. So my question
is HOW can I make my Debian X desktop look as nice as the one from the
Ubuntu CD? How do you adjust the brightness in X, is there some app to
do it? Or way to set it at X server level so it's always like that?
And what about the fonts? I am running Debian testing with 2.6.18
kernel on Dell Latitude C600 laptop. Also does anyone know how to
enable hardware acceleration for an ATI Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x gfx
card? I tried playing an OpenGL game and it told me hardware accel.
was disabled.

Below is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf and info on my gfx card:

# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type man /etc/X11/xorg.conf at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section Files
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
# path to defoma fonts
FontPath/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
EndSection

Section Module
Loadbitmap
Loaddbe
Loadddc
Loaddri
Loadextmod
Loadfreetype
Loadglx
Loadint10
Loadrecord
Loadvbe
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  kbd
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRulesxorg
Option  XkbModelpc104
Option  XkbLayout   us
Option  XkbOptions  altwin:meta_win
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device  /dev/psaux
Option  ProtocolPS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons true
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Synaptics Touchpad
Driver  synaptics
Option  SendCoreEvents  true
Option  Device  /dev/psaux
Option  Protocolauto-dev
Option  HorizScrollDelta0
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x
Driver  ati
BusID   PCI:1:0:0
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier  Dell Latitude C600 LCD
Option  DPMS
HorizSync   28-51
VertRefresh 43-60
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier  Default Screen
Device  ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x
Monitor Dell Latitude C600 LCD
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   1
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   4
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   8
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
Depth   15
Modes   1024x768 800x600 640x480
EndSubSection

Re: X problems

2007-06-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West

On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 04:43:06PM -0400, Zach wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I recently tried out a fairly recent Ubuntu boot CD (just to test it -
 no plans on switching from Debian which I love) and was surprised to
 see that my X desktop looked so much better: it was brighter and even
 in the gnome-term and xterm I tried the fonts seemed better contrast,
 more crisp! I wonder what Ubuntu is doing that my  X.org didn't do?

first thing I'd do is very closely read the xorg.conf and
/var/log/Xorg.0.log generated by *each* system and look for critical
differences. 

It could be something as simple as the dpi setting, for example. It
could also be a theme thing. THe default fonts, colors, etc could just
be a better setup for you. 

.02

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Re: X problems

2007-06-21 Thread Zach


On 6/21/07, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


first thing I'd do is very closely read the xorg.conf and
/var/log/Xorg.0.log generated by *each* system and look for critical
differences.

It could be something as simple as the dpi setting, for example. It
could also be a theme thing. THe default fonts, colors, etc could just
be a better setup for you.


Ok, do you know a general way to increase the screen brightness in X?
Most gfx drivers in Windows come with a way to change the brightness
but I have no driver for this so I guess X.org just picked something
generic. I remember when I had my old Nvidia card I could use 'nv' or
'nvidia' driver to get hardware acceleration working. Any idea how to
do so for my ATI card?

Zach


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Re: X problems

2007-06-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West

On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 04:58:06PM -0400, Zach wrote:
 On 6/21/07, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 first thing I'd do is very closely read the xorg.conf and
 /var/log/Xorg.0.log generated by *each* system and look for critical
 differences.
 
 It could be something as simple as the dpi setting, for example. It
 could also be a theme thing. THe default fonts, colors, etc could just
 be a better setup for you.
 
 Ok, do you know a general way to increase the screen brightness in X?

[...]

I don't think so, unless the driver has it. man ati. also, maybe
ddccontrol would be useful

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Re: X problems

2007-06-21 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi

Zach wrote:

 I remember when I had my old Nvidia card I could use 'nv' or
 'nvidia' driver to get hardware acceleration working. Any idea how to
 do so for my ATI card?
 

To enable hardware acceleration, In the Module section of xorg.conf you
should load dri. So the corresponding stanza in /etc/X11/xorg.conf will
look like

Section Module
  # bunch of load statements here
  Load dri
  # bunch of load statements here
EndSection

hth
raju

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Re: X problems

2007-06-21 Thread Zach


On 6/21/07, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


To enable hardware acceleration, In the Module section of xorg.conf you
should load dri. So the corresponding stanza in /etc/X11/xorg.conf will
look like

Section Module
  # bunch of load statements here
  Load dri
  # bunch of load statements here
EndSection


Hi Raju,

My /etc/X11/xorg.conf currently has:


Section Module
  
  Loaddri
  

Section DRI
  Mode0666
EndSection

What does the mode indicate? Could that be the problem? Maybe the game
I played was misdetecting, is there a quick way to verify that
hardware acceleration is working?

Zach


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Re: X problems

2007-06-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West

On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:20:20PM -0400, Zach wrote:
 
 What does the mode indicate? Could that be the problem? Maybe the game
 I played was misdetecting, is there a quick way to verify that
 hardware acceleration is working?

on my rig:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -i dri /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep /
-vi driver
(II) LoadModule: dri
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(EE) VIA(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed.  Disabling DRI.
(EE) MGA(1): Static buffer allocation failed, not initializing the DRI
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 1 is not DRI capable

pretty much says it all. Not sure what it looks like when it works.

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