Re: Serial ports - how to get them to coexist peacefully...

2001-02-16 Thread idalton
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 03:16:44AM +1100, hogan wrote:
> P133, 48MB RAM, Debian Testing/Unstable (some bits from unstable) 2.2.17 (move
> to 2.4.1 on hold for time being whilst I read Rusty's howtos on netfilter etc.
> :) ).
> 
> Have two onboard ports - ttyS0 and ttyS1 (IRQ 4&3 respectively)
> Have an ISA IO card (everything disabled on card save ttyS3 and "lpt3" [dunno
> linux equiv] - reason for ISA - only have half slot, full and VLB IO cards in
> "stockpile" :) )
> 
> Have modem on ttyS0
> Switch between mouse and Wyse60 terminal on ttyS1
> Want mouse on ttyS3 but IRQ conflict ttyS1+ttyS3
> 
> Can I make the onboard and oncard ttyS's play nice on same IRQ?
> ... or should I play musical jumpers until they're on separate IRQs?

Making onboard serial ports share interrupts is vudu. Basically the
serial port 'hardware' can either hold the interrupt line or let it
'float' when it isn't signalling an interrupt. If it holds the line,
that means the other port can't signal properly, and then more often
then not neither port will work until reset.

All you can really do is try it out to see if it works or not.

> Read something in 2.4.1 kernel config about making serial ports nice to one
> another when on same IRQ.. anything similar in 2.2.x? Should I go to 2.2.18 in
> interim? Will I need a custom compile? ... Will Danger Mouse save Penfold in
> time? :)

You do need to enable sharing serial interrupts.

-- Ferret



Re: No incoming mail

2001-02-16 Thread Glyn Millington

Lars, I think we need more help to help you - what programme are you
using to bring mail down?   Fetchmail?  Something else?  Can you put
up that information, maybe the last lines of any log you have from
fetchmail and exim?  

Glyn M


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Re: New Install of Debian: How do i create boot disks???

2001-02-16 Thread Patrick Ouellette
You can also create boot floppies off the Debian CD.  There should
be a directory on the cd called disks-i386.  It contains the boot
floppy image files.  You will also need the utility rawrite2 from
the dosutils directory (or somewhere on the net like 
ftp.us.debian.org).  

Pat

On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 01:58:31PM -0800, Robert Cymbala wrote:
> 
> Hi ~
> Here's a method that installs Debian from floppy disks and
> then from a parallel port CD-ROM device (microSolutions bantam
> backpack).
> 
>   "Debian GNU/Linux on Toshiba T4700ct Notebook"
>   http://www.lafn.org/~cymbala/Debian/t4700ct.html
> 
>   

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Re: Antwort: Rebooting is foolish ....

2001-02-16 Thread William T Wilson
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> As far as I know you only might want to reboot if you change the
> hostname and want it active. If you change the partitiontable it might
> be usefull.

You don't need to reboot to change the hostname, either.  The command is
'hostname'.

You need to reboot to change the partition table of a disk with mounted
filesystems, and you need to reboot to recompile the kernel, and you need
to reboot for hardware upgrades.  That's about it, really...

> The Linuxcommunity is proud of their uptimes, so we never reboot...

That is the real reason :}



Help. Odd install problems.

2001-02-16 Thread robhr
I tried posting this question a while ago, but I received no reponses.
I looked in the mailing list archives and it doesn't appear there
either, which is probably why I got no responses.  Anyway, here's my
problem.

I'm trying to install Debian 2.2 on an old PS/2 386.  It was running
Debian 2.0 without any problems, but the HD crashed and I figured I'd
get a slightly bigger HD and install 2.2 on it.  I haven't been able
to get 2.2 to install and I can't find 2.0 install disks anymore (no
CD-Rom drive).  I'd like to get 2.2 on this if possible.

Basically I get through the install process with no problems, but when
it tries to run lilo it fails.  The entire kernel is below the sector
limit for old bioses.  Even so, the install program warns me that I'm
not installing it on the first device on the chain even though the
device is /dev/eda.  I don't know enough ESDI drives to know if they
have a master/slave setting, but the kernel finding it as /dev/eda
should mean it's the first drive on the chain right?  I've tried
installing it on /dev/eda and /dev/eda1 and both produce the same
results.  I tried dropping to the console and running lilo manually,
but it doesn't appear to recognize the drive as being mounted.  It
says to mount the target drive under /target, but it's already
mounted.  I even tried unounting it and remounting it, but lilo
doesn't seem to see it.  This completely baffles me.

So then I created a boot diskette and tried to boot the kernel
installed on the HD, but that doesn't work either.  Just after it
recognizes the ESDI HD, I get an error like this:

unable to exec: /usr/sbin/modprobe -t -u binfmt-

The - options are probably wrong, but that's the gist of the error
message.  This message repeats forever and the system won't boot.
I've tried the newest set of install floppies, but this still happens.
Does anyone have any idea what is causing these problems or how to fix
them/get around them so I can install the system?  Why would 2.0 work
and not 2.2?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Rob



LPI:Survey

2001-02-16 Thread Ray Ferrari
This is the site for the survey: http://www.lpi.org/cgi-bin/jass.py


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Re: backing up a complete linux system

2001-02-16 Thread William T Wilson
On 16 Feb 2001, Krzys Majewski wrote:

> > tar -cvzf hda2.tar.gz /
> > ( I don't need to add this ... --exclude hda2.tar.gz do I ??) 
> 
> Yeah you probably do. You might want to exclude other stuff to, like
> /proc, /mnt, /tmp, and possibly /dev.  Normally device files are
> created with /dev/MAKEDEV.

With recent GNU tar you don't need to exclude the tarfile explicitly.  
Other versions of tar you sometimes do.

The simplest thing to do is to simply make individual backups of each
filesystem (the l option).  This way you can take backups frequently of
filesystems that change a lot (/home), less frequently for those that
don't change much (/usr) and never for others (/tmp, /proc)

> > anyway... the part where I'm stuck... 
> > I have no idea how to restore this tarred file on to a totally new
> > drive

You just untar it.  Make sure that the filesystems are large enough for
containing the data, and untar it.  You can make of course a whole
filesystem tree under /mnt (or wherever).

> I'd probably first leave the two drives where they are, reboot to the
> LILO prompt, pass a kernel parameter like "root=/dev/hdc2", and see if
> the new filesystem does the right thing (ie boots). I've never

It should.  However, there are a few caveats.  Some systems can't boot off
of hdc or hdd and require the kernel to be on hda or hdb.  Other systems
can boot hdc/hdd but can't do LBA on them, meaning the kernel has to be on
the first 500MB of the disk.  This refers only to the location of the
kernel, the root filesystem can be anywhere.

Note that you'll have to change your /etc/fstab to reflect the new layout.



How to get rid of warnings in ldconfig?

2001-02-16 Thread robhr
I've been running the same system since, oh Debian 2.1 I believe.  I
recently went and cleaned out all the libc5 stuff because nothing I
have installed requires it.  However, now when I run ldconfig it warns
that libg++2.7.2.so, libstdc++2.7.2.so, and libntdll.so are missing
(well, those names are pretty close anyway).  ld.so.conf file just has
three dirs in it, so where are these warnings coming from?  Those
files don't exist on my system, but how does ldconfig know if they
should be there?  I must be missing something here.  How would I get
rid of these warnings short of reinstalling those libc5 packages?

Rob



Re: Rebooting is foolish ....

2001-02-16 Thread William T Wilson
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, William Leese wrote:

> ..okay, so we have maxtor, seagate, conner (same company as seagate
> maybe, but they still sell HDs under their name) and i think i've
> heard something about samsung.. so, which HD manufacturer makes
> reliable HDs, anyone? IBM maybe?

IBM drives are quite good.  I've had good luck with Western Digital and,
surprisingly, Fujitsu.  (There seem to be two kinds of Fujitsu drives,
those that die immediately and those that last forever).

There's also Quantum, are they owned by someone else now?



OffTopic - What's the proper way to...

2001-02-16 Thread William Jensen
I've got a web site that has some protected data.  On some of the pages
I have javascript that does some calculations.  Right now I have it so
if they click on the link to that page it auto asks for username/password,
however, what I would like to do is let them "see" the page and only
ask for username/password once they click the "calculate" button.  Is this
type of thing done thru the use of cgi scripts or what.  There is probably
more than one "way" to do it but I'd be interested in some opinions in 
a good way to accomplish this.

Wm



Tool to measure network/connection speed

2001-02-16 Thread Richard Black
Hi all,

can anyone recommend a tool that will estimate network/connection
speed?  In particular I want to estimate my upload/download times over
my cable DSL...

thanks

Richard
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Re: IMPS/2 problems after kernel 2.4.1 update

2001-02-16 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Dave Bresson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, David B. Harris wrote:
# Yeah, sorry about that...my babbling doesn't translate well to
paragraphs.
# Ah well...

:)

# > First of all, if your mouse isn't initialized as an IntelliMouse, it
# > pretends it's a regular PS/2 mouse.
# 
# Right.  What do you mean by 'initialized'?  You mean initialized as in
# what gpm.conf and XF86Config-4 have it set as?  Or something else?

Well, it depends on what gets to the mouse first. If X gets to the mouse
first, then it'll be initialized as whatever XF86Config-4 has it set to.
If gpm gets to it first, it'll be initialized to whatever gpm.conf
thinks it is.

Anyways, I'm sure this is all very confusing, and it took me nearly a
month to figure out what was going on :) Basically, you *have* to make
sure that whatever gets to the mouse first initializes it to the highest
degree possible. The means using the protocol that most closely matches
what the mouse actually uses.

# > Third, it sounds like both GPM and X are trying to use /dev/psaux.
Check
# > to see what /dev/mouse is linked to. Since you're using GPM and X,
# > specify explicitly in XF86Config[-4] that the mouse device is
# > /dev/gpmdata, not /dev/mouse .
# >
# 
# Well, since X wants to use /dev/mouse , i made it a sym link to
# /dev/gpmdata (since that is what gpm is set to repeat to)  I guess i
# probably shoulda stated that it was just a link in my previous email.

I had thought this ... but since 'gpm' and X were conflicting, I wasn't
sure. Are you using devfs with devfsd? Double-check the /dev/mouse is a
symlink to /dev/gpmdata. Using devfsd, changes arn't always kept over a
reboot.

# > Now, try rebooting, after making sure all those config options are
set
# > properly. If it still doesn't work, set X to use /dev/psaux, type
# > ImPS/2, 'rm /etc/rc2.d/*gpm' to stop 'gpm' from being started on
boot,
# > and then re-boot. Hopefully that will work. If it doesn't, you have
# > problems that arn't caused by X or gpm.
# 
# Okay, i had tried this before, however it was without the reboot, so i
# tried it again.  As it turned out, this fixed it.  Pointing X straight
to
# /dev/psaux, and not starting gpm at all did it.  Which leads me to
believe
# that gpm doesn't work with the new kernel 2.4.1 i set up, since the
old
# configuration worked just fine with 2.2.18...very strange.  Any ideas
on
# why this might be?

Yup, I figured a reboot would fix it. :) It's that bloody initialization
thing. I don't think it's a problem with gpm and 2.4.x. I'm running
2.4.1-ac15, with devfs, but without devfsd and it works fine. I think
that if gpm.conf is set to use the imps2 protocol, it should work. Just
to humour me, try explicitly stating in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 that X
should use /dev/gpmdata. Make sure 'gpm' starts at boot time, and
re-boot. If that doesn't work, feel free to contact me for more help :)

David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)



perl

2001-02-16 Thread Yuriy Turbovets
When I update my packages with apt-get i have problem with perl. Then
some packages don't wan't to install. And then apt-get , when i type
apt-get install package , after download  apt-get:  Compilaton failed
...perl .. etc.
And I can't use apt-get




Re: Tool to measure network/connection speed

2001-02-16 Thread Wil Reichert
Various online speed tests available at

http://www.dslreports.com/stest/0

Done via browser applet, hence not OS specific.

Wil

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Debian User" 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:12 PM
Subject: Tool to measure network/connection speed


> Hi all,
> 
> can anyone recommend a tool that will estimate network/connection
> speed?  In particular I want to estimate my upload/download times
over
> my cable DSL...
> 
> thanks
> 
> Richard
> 


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Re: kde ignores /etc/profile

2001-02-16 Thread Alan Chandler
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:16:16 +0100, you wrote:

>Hi,
>what am I doing wrong? I changed the PATH-line in /etc/profile 
>(including now /usr/local/xyz/bin), at the end there is also an "export 
>PATH"-line, but when I login via kdm (as user) into kde (version 2 and 
>2.1beta), there's still the old PATH set (even after rebooting!). So I 
>logged in to another windowmanager, but there it works. Any ideas how to 
>correct kde's behaviour?

/etc/profile is a file read by BASH when it is started by after a
logon.

~/.bash_profile is your local equivalent

~/.bashrc is what happens when bash gets started regardless of whether
it is a login shell.

Since you are starting bits of kde, then bash doesn't run and doesn't
change the path (I think, but I am not sure, from default set by
init??).

I am not sure where the prefered place is in that case, I would
suspect you should look at /etc/X11/Xsession script (this just runs
all the scripts in /etc/X11/Xsession.d after setting up a few
parameters)

You do of course start bash when you call up konsole (or an xterm for
that matter) but not as as a login (unless you set the options on
xterm to tell it to treat it like one), so only ~/.bashrc gets run.
You could put PATH statements in there.



Alan

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Re: Antwort: Rebooting is foolish ....

2001-02-16 Thread David B . Harris
To quote William T Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# You don't need to reboot to change the hostname, either.  The command
is
# 'hostname'.
# 
# You need to reboot to change the partition table of a disk with
mounted
# filesystems, and you need to reboot to recompile the kernel, and you
need
# to reboot for hardware upgrades.  That's about it, really...

You also need to re-boot for some hardware re-initialization. See the
recent thread on XFree 4.0.2 and an IntelliMouse-compatible mouse.

David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)



What is going on with the digest?

2001-02-16 Thread bryan
Greetings,
I apologize if this has been hashed over already, but I haven't been
getting the debian-user-digest for the past week or so.  Don't know what is
going on, they just quit coming.  I tried subscribing again today in the
chance that I had been unsubscribed and so I tried resubscribing, both by
the Debian mailing list web page, and by sending an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] but I never got a response.  Has
the digest been removed?  Like I said, I haven't received a digest in over a
week (and I was subscribed).

Thanks for any info anyone may have.

-Bryan



ssh and devices

2001-02-16 Thread Rick Rezinas
Hi,

I'm using testing
I was having an issue (think I saw a post regarding this recently),
where a regular user couldn't use ssh due to ' no controlling tty'

I found that the issue was an inability for nonroot to write to /dev/tty
and changed o+w for /dev/tty

Now all seems happy, but I was curious if this is actually a good fix or 
creates a security issue...and why this would've been changed.  Also, what
packages are in charge of which devices...is there a debian standard for this
or do package maintainers just create and modify devices as they see fit?

thanks
rick



Promise SuperTrak 100 RAID

2001-02-16 Thread David Priban
Dear fellow Debian users,
Did anybody get succesfully Promise SuperTrak100 RAID5 controller
working? Kernel 2.4.1 seems to recogize the PDC20265 chip set, I2O
driver even tells me the controller is there, but I really don't know
how to talk to it nor where to mount the array. It is probably just my
ignorance but information on this type of hardware seems rather rare...

Thanks   David




Re: Special issues with X on a TFT screen?

2001-02-16 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 03:04:24PM +0100, Daniel de los Reyes wrote: 

> I am helping a friend set his X on a Laptop. The graphic chip is handled by 
> the SVGA server. I have configured the whole thing using XF86Setup and 
> Xconfigurator and after that manually tweaking the setup file.
> I get the X server up,(the gray screen) but when it tryes to switch, the 
> screen becomes black and there is no way to get it back.
> I suppose it is stepping out of the frecuencies allowed by the TFT screen.
> I am not very sure home a TFT screen works, it seems to me vertical frecuency 
> is fixed? I haven't been able to get any information from the vendor.

I think you should just pick the predefined monitors in XF86Setup. For
example I used the "SVGA" for my 800*600-TFT.
Phil



Re: Fetchmail & Sendmail

2001-02-16 Thread D-Man
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:46:10AM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote:
| I'm using the fetchmail-procmail-sendmail combo to get mail off of a
| mailserver, filter it, and read it locally.  I'm using that same mail
| server to pass sent mail to.
| 
| In this case, I don't know if sendmail is overkill and if I should be
| using something different.

For sending, ssmtp works (check the FAQ on www.mutt.org to find a
link).  ssmtp is like a sendmail replacement, but all it does is
forward the mail to a smpt server.  No local delivery, etc.
| 
| What I'd like to fix is this...
| 
| When fetchmail gets mail, I think it passes it to sendmail which
| checks to make sure the domain exists.  Today, my DNS servers listed
| in /etc/resolv.conf were down, and all the mail I fetched got bounced
| and lost.  I'd like for this not to happen and get any and all mail
| that is in my box no matter if it's spam and has an unresolvable
| domain or not.  How can I set this up?
| 

You might be able to tell fetchmail to hand the mail off to procmail
directly.  If not you can probably have fetchmail just dump the stuff
in your inbox, then use the bash script in the procmail man page to
filter the mail from the inbox.

HTH,
-D



Re: Tool to measure network/connection speed

2001-02-16 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 03:12:49PM -0500, Richard Black wrote: 

> can anyone recommend a tool that will estimate network/connection
> speed?  In particular I want to estimate my upload/download times over
> my cable DSL...

$apt-get install bing
Phil



Re: ssh and devices

2001-02-16 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Rick Rezinas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# Hi,
# 
# I'm using testing
# I was having an issue (think I saw a post regarding this recently),
# where a regular user couldn't use ssh due to ' no controlling tty'
# 
# I found that the issue was an inability for nonroot to write to
/dev/tty
# and changed o+w for /dev/tty
# 
# Now all seems happy, but I was curious if this is actually a good fix
or 
# creates a security issue...and why this would've been changed.  Also,
what
# packages are in charge of which devices...is there a debian standard
for this
# or do package maintainers just create and modify devices as they see
fit?

I think the "correct" fix would be to change the group of all the tty*
devices to the "tty" group. Then, when you log in, it gets temporarily
changed to your own group ID. So, permissions should be rw-rw, with
"tty" as group, "root" as owner.

I think. :)

David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)



Re: ssh and devices

2001-02-16 Thread Lance Levsen

> where a regular user couldn't use ssh due to ' no controlling tty'

That would have been me. 

> I found that the issue was an inability for nonroot to write to /dev/tty
> and changed o+w for /dev/tty

No such luck on my end, /dev/tty is already 0666. 

Sorry, I can't answer your other questions.
 
> thanks
> rick





Re: Antwort: Rebooting is NOT foolish ....

2001-02-16 Thread Kenward Vaughan
Rebooting is _never_ foolish if it keeps peace in the family... :-)

Kenward
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learning of many facts but the training of the mind to thinking--something
that cannot be learned from books. Albert Einstein



general kernel question

2001-02-16 Thread c-3
Hi!

I just wondered why the kernel is always compressed. Couldn't you 
save boot time, if it's not???

Christian





Re: ssh and devices

2001-02-16 Thread Rick Rezinas
I actually have execute perms also...maybe that makes a difference?

I found the issue using strace:

strace ssh host

and it spews gibberish for a bit, then you see something like

open (/dev/tty),??? ENOACCESS(-1,)

(sorry, from memory...)

which indicated that my user couldn't access the device, since the error
appeared shortly (in gibberish terms) before exit.

The open was successful when the I ran ssh as root, which worked right anyway.

good luck
rick

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Lance Levsen wrote:

> 
> > where a regular user couldn't use ssh due to ' no controlling tty'
> 
> That would have been me. 
> 
> > I found that the issue was an inability for nonroot to write to /dev/tty
> > and changed o+w for /dev/tty
> 
> No such luck on my end, /dev/tty is already 0666. 
> 
> Sorry, I can't answer your other questions.
>  
> > thanks
> > rick
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Antwort: Rebooting is foolish ....

2001-02-16 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 04:06:03PM -0500, David B . Harris wrote:
...
> You also need to re-boot for some hardware re-initialization. See the
> recent thread on XFree 4.0.2 and an IntelliMouse-compatible mouse.

I doubt it.  Any trouble I've had with PS2 mouses not being properly
initialized could be solved by "/etc/init.d.gpm restart" preceded by
the occasionally physical reconnecting of the mouse.  But YMMV:)

-- 
groetjes, carel



SIOCSIFADDR & neighbour table overflow

2001-02-16 Thread Michael K. O'Brien
Hola~

I try to keep up with unstable (I run apt-get dist-upgrade about once a week).
Anyway, after a power failure, my machine is not in a happy state.

Trying to run ifconfig I receive:

% ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
SIOCSIFADDR: Bad file descriptor
lo: unknown interface: Bad file descriptor

Running "ifconfig -a" lists "lo" as a valid interface.

I'm using the 3c59x driver. Which, for loopback, I wouldn't think would
matter.

Anyway, has anyone having problems?

MO


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Re: OffTopic - What's the proper way to...

2001-02-16 Thread Erdmut Pfeifer
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 02:12:19PM -0600, William Jensen wrote:
> I've got a web site that has some protected data.  On some of the pages
> I have javascript that does some calculations.  Right now I have it so
> if they click on the link to that page it auto asks for username/password,
> however, what I would like to do is let them "see" the page and only
> ask for username/password once they click the "calculate" button.  Is this
> type of thing done thru the use of cgi scripts or what.  There is probably
> more than one "way" to do it but I'd be interested in some opinions in 
> a good way to accomplish this.

don't know what kind of calculations you offer and in what way the
javascript is involved, but if your requirements fit into the scheme
of having some kind of form into which the user fills in several
parameters before clicking "calculate", then the classical CGI script
would probably be the best solution. In that case, everything you might
want to protect - data, algorithms, whatever - is on the server side,
and you can easily control at which point you require authentication/
authorization.
When doing it in javascript (client-side, I assume), keep in mind that
the code is delivered to the browser as is, so you have no real control
over what the user then does with it. If this code implements the
calculations you would like to protect, then this probably isn't the
best way of doing it (it only requires very little expert knowledge to
get that code executing outside of the context of your website, except
if you devise some clever challenge-response mechanism). However, these
concerns only apply if you are _not_ having some data on the server
side without which the javascript would be useless...

Maybe you could elaborate a little more on the details of your
intentions... (e.g. what you mean by "let them see the page", etc.)

Cheers,
Erdmut


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Re: general kernel question

2001-02-16 Thread Erik van Roode

At 10:32 PM 2/16/01 +0100, c-3 wrote:


I just wondered why the kernel is always compressed. Couldn't you
save boot time, if it's not???


  Depends on the speed of the medium from which you read the kernel,
and the speed of the processor.

If the processor can decompress faster than the medium can read, it makes
sense to compress the image.

Erik




reconfiguring pcmcia nic when laptop resumes

2001-02-16 Thread John M. Flinchbaugh
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i seem to remember months ago, with the linux 2.4pre kernels and
debian unstable, dhclient would run anytime the laptop awoke and
reconfigured the nic.  this was quite convenient since it often
awakes on a new network.

somewhere along the line, it stopped doing that.  now i usually resort
to physically ejecting and reinserting the card to get it to reconfig
on a new network.

what's the best way to re-enable the old behavior?

thanks.

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Re: Problem building X 4.0.2 from debian source

2001-02-16 Thread Martin Albert
On Tuesday 13 February 2001 15:12, Frederik Vanrenterghem wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Martin Albert wrote:
> > On Son, 11 Feb 2001, Frederik Vanrenterghem wrote:
> > > using 'make World'. The error only seems to show up when I use
> > > 'debian/rules build', which is rather odd. Anyway, here is the

> > debian/rules build
> > applies patches found in debian/patches
>
> As you may have overlooked in my posting, I only get the error when I
> use 'debian/rules build' to build a debian package of X. If I execute
> 'make World' (also after applying the debian patches), everything
> seems to be OK (I saw the same error messages, but they do not cause
> the build process to die).
>
> Any ideas what might be going on? Might it have something to do with
> different levels of optimization? If yes, can this be altered?

Well, not overlooked - but i might have guessed it  ;-)

So, you didn't clean the sourcetree after the last try with the debian 
setup, before doing make World? Then

make World
cd your_toplevel_that_includes_debian
touch debian/stampdir/build
debian/rules binary

martin



Re: Can't connect two debian boxes via PLIP

2001-02-16 Thread Dr. Aldo Medina
Matthew Dalton wrote:

> > I've followed PLIP-Howto steps, but even when I already
> > tried two cables (which work under Windows, I know this doesn't prove
> > anything, but..)
> 
> It proves that the cables are okay.
> 
> >, I still can't make this to work. I stop in the ping
> > step. My potato says plip0: transmit timeout(1,87) and my woody stays
> > forever waiting for an answer. This are my settings:
> 
> What happens if you try to ping from the woody machine?

When I try to ping from the woody machine, it stays forever waiting for
an answer

> > ¿any suggestion?
> 
> Do you have any ipchains rules setup on either of the machines?
> Does one of the machines have a modem and is used to dial in to the
> internet? Maybe your firewall rules are stoping the packets getting
> through.

input (policy ACCEPT)
forward (policy DENY):
MASQall -  192.168.0.0/24  anywhere n/a
output (policy ACCEPT)

> Check the log files in /var/log for any denied packet log entries (you
> did use the 'log' switch with ipchains, didn't you?) or kernel error
> messages.

Nothing in the log

> You could also use 'traceroute' to see how far the packets are getting.

They don't go anywhere, just my box is listed.

> 
> HTH
> Matthew

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Re: SIOCSIFADDR & neighbour table overflow

2001-02-16 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 13:52:51 -0800, Michael K. O'Brien wrote:
> % ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
> SIOCSIFADDR: Bad file descriptor

Known problem. Downgrade to the "net-tools" package from "Testing".

HTH,
Ray
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broken gnucash in unstable

2001-02-16 Thread John M. Flinchbaugh
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has anyone else managed to get gnucash deb installed in unstable i386?
when i try to add it, it immediately removes itself in conflict
resolution because it depends upon two packages which ultimately
conflict with each other.
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Re: broken gnucash in unstable

2001-02-16 Thread Glenn Becker

I have had this problem in testing ...

Glenn Becker
Online Producer, Community
SCIFI.COM

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> has anyone else managed to get gnucash deb installed in unstable i386?
> when i try to add it, it immediately removes itself in conflict
> resolution because it depends upon two packages which ultimately
> conflict with each other.
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Problem binfmt module-Help define?

2001-02-16 Thread Jonathan Gift
Hi,

I'm posting about a recent error in my daemon log that occurs every
other day stating:

modprobe can't locate module binfmt-002 (these change)

What did I forget in my last kernel build. I build all modules. What is
going on?

Thanks,

Jonathan

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Re: Antwort: Rebooting is foolish ....

2001-02-16 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 04:06:03PM -0500, David B . Harris wrote:
# ...
# > You also need to re-boot for some hardware re-initialization. See
the
# > recent thread on XFree 4.0.2 and an IntelliMouse-compatible mouse.
# 
# I doubt it.  Any trouble I've had with PS2 mouses not being properly
# initialized could be solved by "/etc/init.d.gpm restart" preceded by
# the occasionally physical reconnecting of the mouse.  But YMMV:)

Don't doubt it. I didn't just make it up to prove that a reboot *could*
be required to re-initialize hardware :)

David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)



boot-floppies mirroring problems

2001-02-16 Thread Matthew Sackman
Dear all.

I'm trying to get the boot-floppies generation to work because I
need to build a custom installation procedure for a machine I want
to install debian on (the default kernels do not have drivers for
the raid controller on this machine, and there is no ide hard disc,
so a special kernel must be used to allow installation onto the
raid array).

I've installed the boot-floppies package, ncftpd, and ftpgrab. I've
set ftpgrab up to copy
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/base
into /home/ftp/archive/debian

I've been through the scripts in the boot-floppies package, and
made a list of all the other packages that boot-floppies wants, and
have setup ftpgrab to get all of those aswell (and dump them in
/home/ftp/archive/debian). Thus everything is going into
/home/ftp/archive/debian.

Inside /usr/src/boot-floppies/config I have the following:

ftp_archive := /home/ftp/archive/debian

archive := $(ftp_archive)/

but this is not working as doing a make check seemingly lists every 
single package as being missing. What am I doing wrong here? Is
there a file heirarchy that I must follow? Do packages need to be
renamed? Can someone help please?

Frustratedly,

Matthew Sackman



Newbie

2001-02-16 Thread #KUNDAN KUMAR#
Greetings to all!
 I have just Installed Debian Potato. Delighted to see that it could be
done. I am extremely new to apt-get and the other debian package managaement
tools. Had heard a lot of apt-get and thus I came to debian. apt-get is
cool.
 I have a small dumb problem. How can I just upgrade to woody. I could not
figure out the exact command??
 apt-get distupgrade woody??
 thanks for help
Kundan



Re: Antwort: Rebooting is foolish ....

2001-02-16 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:30:11PM -0500, David B . Harris wrote:
> To quote Carel Fellinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> # On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 04:06:03PM -0500, David B . Harris wrote:
> # ...
> # > You also need to re-boot for some hardware re-initialization. See
> the
> # > recent thread on XFree 4.0.2 and an IntelliMouse-compatible mouse.
> # 
> # I doubt it.  Any trouble I've had with PS2 mouses not being properly
> # initialized could be solved by "/etc/init.d.gpm restart" preceded by
> # the occasionally physical reconnecting of the mouse.  But YMMV:)
> 
> Don't doubt it. I didn't just make it up to prove that a reboot *could*
> be required to re-initialize hardware :)

But I *do* doubt it:)
You see, unplugging the mouse and then replugging it resets the mouse,
restarting gpm redoes the initialisation, so what else could be necessery?
Ofcourse I could be overlooking something.  I've read that thread you
refered to, but I don't remember having seen that the really did the above,
i.e. unplug the mouse, reconnect the mouse, restart gpm.  If they did, and
the mouse still refused to work, please tell me and I admit you're right.

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Re: XFree86 agpgart.o

2001-02-16 Thread Dr. Aldo Medina
I used the i810gtt-0.2-4.src.rpm and xfcom_i810-1.2-3.i386.rpm files
from http://www.intel.com. Then I rpm -U i810gtt and alien xfcom_i810.
Going to /usr/src/redhat/SOURCE I rebuild agpgart.o for my running
kernel, insmod it, and then dpkg -i xfcom's deb I just "alienated". I
maked sure /etc/X11/X pointed to /usr/X11/bin/XFCom_i810 and ran
xf86config to reconfigure my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. I reviewed the file,
and startx worked at last!

I don't know if this could work for you, but here it did. I can send you
the files if you like to. 

peter wrote:
> 
> hi there !!
> 
> im recently trying to run an xserver on a "fuckin" (sorry) i810 intel board...
> all those on-board stuff sucks... but anyways...
> 
> im running potato with a new 2.4.1 kernel ( i also got the new modutils and
> stuff and all works fine )...
> on the xfree site they say to run the server with the i810 chipset i would
> need a "agpgart.o" - module that comes with the server !?!
> i cant find it anywhere... i got one compiled with the kernel and modprobe
> loads it, but still the server wont start...
> 
> heres what it said =>
> 
> XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
> (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
> (**) XKB: keymap: "xfree86(de)" (overrides other XKB settings)
> (**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/psaux, buttons: 3
> (**) Mouse: 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
> (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "i810"
> (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "My Monitor"
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 70.24 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 70.88 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 74.59 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 75.00 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 76.01 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 80.21 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 87.50 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1152x864" needs hsync freq of 89.62 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 91.15 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 93.75 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 107.16 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 96.15 kHz. Deleted.
> (--) SVGA: Mode "1800X1440" needs hsync freq of 104.52 kHz. Deleted.
> (**) FontPath set to
> "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts
> /misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
> (--) SVGA: PCI: Intel Unknown chipset (0x7121) rev 3, Memory @ 0xd800,
> 0xdc10
> (--) SVGA: error doing ioctl(GARTIOCINFO): Invalid argument
> 
> Fatal server error:
> Aborting
> 
> When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
> the full server output, not just the last messages
> 
> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
>   after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> 
> anyone got an idea ??
> 
> thx a lot...
> 
> peter

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Re: broken gnucash in unstable

2001-02-16 Thread Jonathan David Wheelhouse
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:08:19PM -0500, Glenn Becker wrote:
> 
> I have had this problem in testing ...
> 

> > has anyone else managed to get gnucash deb installed in unstable i386?
> > when i try to add it, it immediately removes itself in conflict
> > resolution because it depends upon two packages which ultimately
> > conflict with each other.
> > - -- 

This has been going on for maybe a week; bugs are filed against the
package.  See
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=gnucash&archive=no;
bugs: 
#85652: Needs recompile against libguile9
#85966: dependencies conflicts
#86029: gnucash: gnucash depends on libguile6-slib but that package is
not available

I think the problem was caused by the guile maintainer stipulating
that libguile6 and libguile9 conflict with each other.

Jonathan



Re: What is going on with the digest?

2001-02-16 Thread Jeremiah H. Savage
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 03:03:44PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Greetings,
>   I apologize if this has been hashed over already, but I haven't been
> getting the debian-user-digest for the past week or so.  Don't know what is
> going on, they just quit coming.  I tried subscribing again today in the
> chance that I had been unsubscribed and so I tried resubscribing, both by
> the Debian mailing list web page, and by sending an email to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I never got a response.  Has
> the digest been removed?  Like I said, I haven't received a digest in over a
> week (and I was subscribed).

Also, the web archives haven't been updated since Tuesday...

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Re: Newbie

2001-02-16 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
First change all references to "stable" in your /etc/apt/sources.list to
"woody". Then
type:

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade

All this is to be done as root. You could also upgrade to unstable instead of
woody/testing by substituting "unstable" for "woody" above.

If you have any questions, write back to the list and if I can help I'll try to
do so.

- Jimmy Kaplowitz
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On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 06:28:05AM +0800, #KUNDAN KUMAR# wrote:
> Greetings to all!
>  I have just Installed Debian Potato. Delighted to see that it could be
> done. I am extremely new to apt-get and the other debian package managaement
> tools. Had heard a lot of apt-get and thus I came to debian. apt-get is
> cool.
>  I have a small dumb problem. How can I just upgrade to woody. I could not
> figure out the exact command??
>  apt-get distupgrade woody??
>  thanks for help
> Kundan
> 
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Putting computer on standby or sleep

2001-02-16 Thread Enrico Zini
Hello,

I would like to know if (and how) I can make my computer "suspend" so that
all (most of) is powered down but I can "resume" it and have it in the
same state it had before the "suspend".  Something like portables do, but
with a workstation.

The system is a dual PII-450 on a Supermicro P6DGU 440GX motherboard on an
ATX power supply, and runs Debian unstable updated every night with kernel
release 2.4.1.  APM is disabled on multiprocessor systems, ACPI works.


Thanks in advance, Enrico

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Re: Putting computer on standby or sleep

2001-02-16 Thread Tyler Braun
I think xset dpms is what you're looking for. Do man xset for the full story,
but if I do:

xset dpms 0 0 3600

then my monitor powers down after an hour. The first two settings are for going
into a suspend state, where the monitor blanks out but doesn't actually shut
off. Setting them to 0 disables this part, as I want the monitor to go straight
to shutting off. 

To my understanding:

xset dpms 0 1800 3600

would blank the screen after a half hour, and then shut the monitor off
completely after an hour. Anyhow, read the man pages and see what it can do.

I've just recently switched to XFree86 4, and this doesn't seem to work
properly, so if you're using x4 you might encounter problems.

Ty

On Sat Feb 17/2001 @ 12:02:P +0100, Enrico Zini wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I would like to know if (and how) I can make my computer "suspend" so that
> all (most of) is powered down but I can "resume" it and have it in the
> same state it had before the "suspend".  Something like portables do, but
> with a workstation.
> 
> The system is a dual PII-450 on a Supermicro P6DGU 440GX motherboard on an
> ATX power supply, and runs Debian unstable updated every night with kernel
> release 2.4.1.  APM is disabled on multiprocessor systems, ACPI works.
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance, Enrico
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Latest Kernel

2001-02-16 Thread eileen

Hi,

I was looking around debian.org for the latest kernel.  Am correct that it 
is currently 2.2.17?  I thought there was a new kernel out?


Thanks


Eileen Orbell
Software & Internet Applications
Capitol College
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/proc/devices lists '188 usb/ttys/%d', choking MAKEDEV

2001-02-16 Thread David M. Anderson
I am running Debian 2.2 (potato) with the exception of having compiled 
the 2.4.1 kernel.


MAKEDEV chokes, with the output:
/sbin/MAKEDEV: major_usbtts%d=188: command not found

I believe the problem is with line 150 of the script, and due to the 
fact that in /proc/devices, under Character Devices, is the line:

188 usb/tts/%d

Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Dave



Re: Newbie

2001-02-16 Thread D-Man
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:51:29PM -0500, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
| First change all references to "stable" in your /etc/apt/sources.list to
| "woody". Then

Shouldn't that be "testing" ?

-D



Re: Latest Kernel

2001-02-16 Thread Martin Fluch
> I was looking around debian.org for the latest kernel.  Am correct that it 
> is currently 2.2.17?  I thought there was a new kernel out?

2.2.18 and 2.2.19pre.xx in unstable at least...

Martin



Re: Latest Kernel

2001-02-16 Thread Tyler Braun
2.2.18 is the latest in the 2.2 series, but there's also the 2.4 series now, and
the latest there is 2.4.1.

See http://www.kernel.org instead of the Debian site if you're looking for a
kernel.

Ty

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> Hi,
> 
> I was looking around debian.org for the latest kernel.  Am correct that it 
> is currently 2.2.17?  I thought there was a new kernel out?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Eileen Orbell
> Software & Internet Applications
> Capitol College
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> 
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RE: /proc/devices lists '188 usb/ttys/%d', choking MAKEDEV

2001-02-16 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 16-Feb-2001 David M. Anderson wrote:
> I am running Debian 2.2 (potato) with the exception of having compiled 
> the 2.4.1 kernel.
> 
> MAKEDEV chokes, with the output:
> /sbin/MAKEDEV: major_usbtts%d=188: command not found
> 
> I believe the problem is with line 150 of the script, and due to the 
> fact that in /proc/devices, under Character Devices, is the line:
> 188 usb/tts/%d
> 
> Can anyone help?
> 

do
device=`echo $device | sed 's#/.*##'`
case "$major" in
Character|Block|'')
;; 
*)
eval "major_$device=$major"
devices="$devices $device"
;;
esac
done

is what mine looks like, and 'usb/tts/%d' gets munged to 'usb'.  My MAKEDEV
came from the package 'makedev'.  Mine is version 2.3.1-51.




Invalid partition table?

2001-02-16 Thread Fu-Dong Chiou
Hi,

I am having a problem booting to a Compaq LTE5200 laptop.  It has
been runnning linux for almost two years until yesterday when I decided
to try to upgrade it using a bootable CD.  Since it did not seem to boot 
from the CD, I thought I might make it happen by modifying /etc/lilo.conf.

Here's what I have

/dev/hda1   400+M   ext2/opt
/dev/hda2   1.6+G   Extented
/dev/hda5   80M swap
/dev/hda6   1.6+G   ext2/   *bootdisk

/dev/hda1 used to have Windows98, but was reformatted to accommondate more
linux applications, and is not bootable.  (This was done more than one
month ago.)  But /etc/lilo.conf still has this windows information up
until yesterday, so I thought I'd modify it and try to add /dev/hdb
and see if that makes CDROM a bootable device.

After reboot, the first message displays reads

120 MHz Pentium Processor
External Cache: 256K Enabled
Invalid partition table

I tried to boot from a rootless diskette (floppy module and CDROM module
share the same drive bay), and run lilo from there, but there an error
message returning that said:

# lilo -C /mnt/etc/lilo.conf -b /dev/hda6 -i /mnt/boot.boot.b

Ignoring entry 'root'
Ignoring entry 'install'
First boot sector doesn't have a valid LILO signature

The /etc/lilo.conf looks like this:

boot = /dev/hda
compact
timeout = 1
prompt
  vga = normal
  read-only
map = /boot/map
install = /boot/boot.p
image = /boot/vmlinuz
  lable = linux
  root = /dev/hda6

I am at my wit's end.  As far as I can tell, everything looks fine.  
Mounting /dev/hda6 after booting from tomsrbt diskette shows that 
evrerything is still there.  However, when I use Windows98 bootdisk to 
boot, and run fdisk from dos prompt, it shows that /dev/hda2 is not a 
bootable device, and there is no /dev/hda5 or /dev/hda6.  I am not sure 
how the whole thing happened.  Would appreciate any suggestion. Thanks!

Best wishes,  
Chip




Re: DSL & NT

2001-02-16 Thread Nick
As soon as I read MS Proxy, I thought eck, very sticky.
I don't know and easy way possible,
except for what was mentioned.
Want proxy, use squid, but ipchains is a
darn good fire-wall, cheap too!
look into firestarter for newbie's

- Original Message -
From: "Hanno Böttcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Debian User List" ; "Erich Baur"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: DSL & NT


> The simple way would be to make a linux mashine the router and simply
> masquerade.what about that?`
>
> bOhA
> - Original Message -
> From: Erich Baur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 1:43 PM
> Subject: DSL & NT
>
>
> > Hi *,
> >
> > Since some days I'm able to access the internet through a MS Proxy
Server
> > (MS Proxy Server 2.0 runs on a NT machine in a network). I just had
> > to change to Browser/Proxy settings to the right values.
> > But how is it possible to bring programms like fetchmail, micq, ftp etc.
> to
> > work? Under MS Windows I need to install MS Proxy Client for such
things,
> > but under Debian?
> >
> > Please help, I don't have any ideas (I'm a newcomer).
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Erich
> >
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RE: Newbie

2001-02-16 Thread #KUNDAN KUMAR#
Thanks Jimmy,
 Did the same as you asked. It worked fine, except for I had to give the
aptget command with -f option, quite a few times.
 However, now I am having some strange problems, the monitor (under X)
suddenly freezes. Even the keyboard doesn't work. And after sometimes, it is
alright.
 Is it that my krenel is not well compiled? the kernel version is
2.2.18pre21. Some interesting things,  get in dmesg are:

..
CPU: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 01
Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.  
..
PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086, DID=2411
PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
..
PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086, DID=2411
PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA 
...

---
for my modules.conf, I have

# The BTTV module does not load the tuner module automatically,
# so do that in here
post-install bttv insmod tuner
post-remove bttv insmod tuner

pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial modsave  > /dev/null 2> /dev/nulll

### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/setserial

### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
alias char-major-10-144 nvram
alias binfmt-0064 binfmt_aout
alias char-major-10-135 rtc  



---
Everything on the system is very slow, including telnet etc..

Help!
Kundan 


-Original Message-
From: Jimmy Kaplowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 6:51 AM
To: #KUNDAN KUMAR#
Cc: Debian-User (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Newbie


First change all references to "stable" in your /etc/apt/sources.list to
"woody". Then
type:

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade

All this is to be done as root. You could also upgrade to unstable instead
of
woody/testing by substituting "unstable" for "woody" above.

If you have any questions, write back to the list and if I can help I'll try
to
do so.

- Jimmy Kaplowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 06:28:05AM +0800, #KUNDAN KUMAR# wrote:
> Greetings to all!
>  I have just Installed Debian Potato. Delighted to see that it could be
> done. I am extremely new to apt-get and the other debian package
managaement
> tools. Had heard a lot of apt-get and thus I came to debian. apt-get is
> cool.
>  I have a small dumb problem. How can I just upgrade to woody. I could not
> figure out the exact command??
>  apt-get distupgrade woody??
>  thanks for help
> Kundan
> 
> 
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Re: Invalid partition table (rescue)

2001-02-16 Thread Robin Rowe
Chip,

I don't know what's wrong, but a typical way to deal with this is to boot
using a generic rescue (install) diskette. (Win98 doesn't understand Linux
so whatever it may report is suspect.) A Debian install floppy has to work
whether your CD will boot or not.

When presented the main install menu don't follow the normal sequence, but
choose instead to mount your existing swap and ext2 partitions. The first
warning that proceeding may lose data on your disk can be ignored, but don't
choose to install Linux to a particular partition or then you will lose your
data there. Pick partition disk to proceed into cfdisk to check that things
are as you want there. You will probably want to quit cfdisk without any
changes. Mount your partitions. Then select from the install menu that you
want to make Linux bootable and follow the normal sequence for installing
LILO. With any luck you are on your way.

Total time to put things right is about five minutes, if you have a rescue
diskette. It may take longer if you have to create the diskette from the CD.
To do that you will need a machine that will boot to MS-DOS or Linux. Extra
difficulty if you must boot a win98 box into MS-DOS with no real mode CD-ROM
drivers. Copy the boot directory off the CD onto a FAT16 partition in
Windows first if you have to go that route.

Cheers,

Robin

- Original Message -
From: "Fu-Dong Chiou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Cc: "Fu-Dong Chiou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:07 PM
Subject: Invalid partition table?


> Hi,
>
> I am having a problem booting to a Compaq LTE5200 laptop.  It has
> been runnning linux for almost two years until yesterday when I decided
> to try to upgrade it using a bootable CD.  Since it did not seem to boot
> from the CD, I thought I might make it happen by modifying /etc/lilo.conf.
>
> Here's what I have
>
> /dev/hda1   400+M   ext2/opt
> /dev/hda2   1.6+G   Extented
> /dev/hda5   80M swap
> /dev/hda6   1.6+G   ext2/   *bootdisk
>
> /dev/hda1 used to have Windows98, but was reformatted to accommondate more
> linux applications, and is not bootable.  (This was done more than one
> month ago.)  But /etc/lilo.conf still has this windows information up
> until yesterday, so I thought I'd modify it and try to add /dev/hdb
> and see if that makes CDROM a bootable device.
>
> After reboot, the first message displays reads
>
> 120 MHz Pentium Processor
> External Cache: 256K Enabled
> Invalid partition table
>
> I tried to boot from a rootless diskette (floppy module and CDROM module
> share the same drive bay), and run lilo from there, but there an error
> message returning that said:
>
> # lilo -C /mnt/etc/lilo.conf -b /dev/hda6 -i /mnt/boot.boot.b
>
> Ignoring entry 'root'
> Ignoring entry 'install'
> First boot sector doesn't have a valid LILO signature
>
> The /etc/lilo.conf looks like this:
>
> boot = /dev/hda
> compact
> timeout = 1
> prompt
>   vga = normal
>   read-only
> map = /boot/map
> install = /boot/boot.p
> image = /boot/vmlinuz
>   lable = linux
>   root = /dev/hda6
>
> I am at my wit's end.  As far as I can tell, everything looks fine.
> Mounting /dev/hda6 after booting from tomsrbt diskette shows that
> evrerything is still there.  However, when I use Windows98 bootdisk to
> boot, and run fdisk from dos prompt, it shows that /dev/hda2 is not a
> bootable device, and there is no /dev/hda5 or /dev/hda6.  I am not sure
> how the whole thing happened.  Would appreciate any suggestion. Thanks!
>
> Best wishes,
> Chip
>
>
>
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Re: Rebooting is foolish ....

2001-02-16 Thread John Galt


Everything in /etc/init.d is a shell script that can be used to restart a
daemon.  Usage: /etc/init.d/ restart.  If there's not a init.d
script, ps aux|grep  to get the PID, then kill -HUP .  That's
just about it: if it doesn't fit into one of these two categories, it's
not important to the machine's continued well-being for the process to
remian active, so the process itself can be taken down and restarted.

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, SamBozo Debian User wrote:

>Hello to the group,
>   Recently there were comments made as to the "foolishness" of rebooting
>just to reset an edited config file. How about a list of the cli entrys
>that would have accomplished this? Are there different ones for
>different config files? SHUP something? blabla stop/start/restart
>   It's a wonderful thing to already know all this... how about sharing?
>And if the standard RTFM reply is to be used ... please specify which
>freaking manual we are refering to reading.
>   Any hostility you may percieve is directed at my newbie ignorance and
>the "joys"? of the learning curve ... gurrr!
>
>TIA,
>Sam Morgan
>
>http://www.wcc.net/~peacemkr
>
>
>

-- 
Television is now so desperately hungry for material that it is scraping
the top of the barrel.
-- Gore Vidal

John Galt ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



Re: Antwort: Rebooting is foolish ....

2001-02-16 Thread John Galt
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>
>
>As far as I know you only might want to reboot if you change the hostname and

/etc/init.d/networking restart

>want it active. If you change the partitiontable it might be usefull.

Linux Fdisk resyncs the disks almost immediately.  DOS fdisk requires a
reboot to do this.  Did you reboot after running fdisk when installing
Debian?



-- 
Television is now so desperately hungry for material that it is scraping
the top of the barrel.
-- Gore Vidal

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Re: Question re. AbiWord

2001-02-16 Thread Ross Boylan
Oops, still learning to read.  I have a related problem, but it's with
Gnome.  Here's the sequence:
1) login as a regular use via gdm
2) open a terminal and su
3) gtop &
Leads to this error on the terminal:
GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols
specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.

Over time, I accumulate these messages too:
glibtop: glibtop_get_proc_state (): Client requested field mask f, but only 
have c.
glibtop: glibtop_get_proc_mem (): Client requested field mask 0003f, but only 
have 00032.

By the way, I tried xhost +.  It didn't affect the preceding problems.



On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 07:58:57AM -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote:
> Sure - check out man xhost. If (like me) you're a totally isolated host
> you can just do 
> 
> xhost +
> 
> in a terminal window owned by the user running X; that will allow ANY
> host, ANYWHERE, to  display om your machine. If you're connected to the
> net you might want to refine your xhost command to allow only specific
> hosts/users.
> 
> ap
> 
> --
> Andrew J Perrin - Ph.D. Candidate, UC Berkeley, Dept. of Sociology  
> Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA - http://demog.berkeley.edu/~aperrin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Ross Boylan wrote:
> 
> > Is there a way to give root (or anyone else) permission so this error
> > doesn't come up?  I login to a non-root account (gdm), but sometimes I
> > open a terminal as root and want to run a graphical application.  I
> > always get the error message that kicked this thread off.
> > 
> > The error doesn't seem to cause any bad effects, but it suggests
> > all is not well.
> > 
> > On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 10:45:23PM -0500, Tyler Braun wrote:
> > > Are you trying to run it from a terminal that you're currently root in, 
> > > while
> > > you're using X as a regular user? If so just stop being root and it 
> > > should be
> > > ok.
> > > 
> > > Otherwise, try:
> > > 
> > > export display=:0.0
> > > 
> > > I *THINK* that will do the trick.
> > > 
> > > On Thu Feb 15/2001 @ 10:02:P -0500, Radhika Sambamurti - 718-622-8304 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I recently downloaded and installed AbiWord for my Debian Potato 2.2r
> > > > Linux.
> > > > The exact error message that I got when i tried to run it was:
> > > > 
> > > > Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
> > > > Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
> > > > 
> > > > Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
> > > > 
> > > > If anybody could help me out here... I would like to know what the above
> > > > error messages mean, and if possible which dependency conflict i have to
> > > > resolve.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > 
> > > > Radhika
> > > > 
> > > > 
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Re: Latest Kernel

2001-02-16 Thread Pollywog

On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:24:35 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

> Hi,
>  
>  I was looking around debian.org for the latest kernel.  Am correct that it 
>  is currently 2.2.17?  I thought there was a new kernel out?

There is a 2.2.18 kernel out.

--
Andrew



Re: xdm takes ages to start after X upgrade SOLVEDish

2001-02-16 Thread Martin Albert
On Friday 16 February 2001 13:28, David Purton wrote:
> I'v solved this prob by changing this line in xdm-config from true to
> false:
>
> ! All displays should use authorization.
> ! X terminals may not be configured that way, so they will require
> ! individualized resource settings.
> DisplayManager*authorize:   false
>
>
> but it suggests it should be true - why? and if this is important can
> I set it up so there isn't the delay starting?

Well, after that i recently started to find garbled fileentries in / 
containing MIT-COOKIES i'ld think this might make a point.

martin



Re: Serial ports - how to get them to coexist peacefully...

2001-02-16 Thread Martin Albert
On Friday 16 February 2001 17:27, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > Can I make the onboard and oncard ttyS's play nice on same IRQ?
> > ... or should I play musical jumpers until they're on separate
> > IRQs?
>
> I would change the jumpers.  Hoping the software ca multiplex is a
> recipe for disaster.

And won't work with ISA hardware.

martin



Re: Special issues with X on a TFT screen?

2001-02-16 Thread Martin Albert
On Friday 16 February 2001 15:04, Daniel de los Reyes wrote:
> I am helping a friend set his X on a Laptop. The graphic chip is
..
> setup file. I get the X server up,(the gray screen) but when it tryes
> to switch, the screen becomes black and there is no way to get it
> back. I suppose it is stepping out of the frecuencies allowed by the
> TFT screen. I am not very sure home a TFT screen works, it seems to
> me vertical frecuency is fixed? I haven't been able to get any
> information from the vendor. Any help?

Be very carefull. I killed the first display of my laptop exactly that 
way.

No reply from the vendor too, so still no X.

SVGAText package has a utility in the source package to read the 
graphic chip registers under DOS. I don't know whether this works under 
Win.

Try the linux-laptop http: site. They have a long list of laptops and 
evtly. an X setup for that model.

martin



Re: XFree86 4.0.2 - Very low resolution - how to increase?

2001-02-16 Thread Martin Albert
On Friday 16 February 2001 09:41, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I'm currently confused about X-4. I've been keeping up to date with
> Testing and now I don't know which version of X I'm running. My
> driver is xserver-svga 3.3.6X. I tried running xf86config and this
> generated a XF86Config-4 file which didn't work. I therefore
> continued with my existing XF86Config.
>
> Can anyone explain briefly what the present position is with regard
> to X-4?

I can only explain briefly what your problem is ;-)

You're actually running the old 3.3.6 server, propably you didn't 
install a new one. If you dare (no, it works, at least) do 
apt-get install xserver-xfree86

martin



Re: XFree86Config bpp depth confusion

2001-02-16 Thread Martin Albert
On Friday 16 February 2001 19:54, Robin Rowe wrote:
> Hi. I have a little confusion with XFree86Config. What is the
> difference between bpp and color depth?

> Section "Screen"
>DefaultColorDepth 32

This selects which of the following Display sections will be used.

martin



Re: Antwort: Rebooting is foolish ....

2001-02-16 Thread Martin Albert
Hi, Martin!

On Friday 16 February 2001 15:54, "Martin_Tanzer"@dvs-berlin.de wrote:
> As far as I know you only might want to reboot if you change the
> hostname and want it active.
> The Linuxcommunity is proud of their uptimes, so we never reboot...
>
> martin

And not even that is necessary, /proc/hostname and /etc/init.d does it. 

Remains:
- kernel changes.
- Evil proprietary, undisclosed display driver modules.
- Having no UPS.

martin



Re: xdm takes ages to start after X upgrade SOLVEDish

2001-02-16 Thread David Purton
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Martin Albert wrote:

> On Friday 16 February 2001 13:28, David Purton wrote:
> > I'v solved this prob by changing this line in xdm-config from true to
> > false:
> >
> > ! All displays should use authorization.
> > ! X terminals may not be configured that way, so they will require
> > ! individualized resource settings.
> > DisplayManager*authorize:   false
> >
> >
> > but it suggests it should be true - why? and if this is important can
> > I set it up so there isn't the delay starting?
> 
> Well, after that i recently started to find garbled fileentries in / 
> containing MIT-COOKIES i'ld think this might make a point.
> 

ooo , you mean like a file called "pf,@@" ?

what is a MIT_COOKIE?

I also got these files in /etc/X11 and /etc/X11/xdm, but that was before
I changed the above authorization line.





Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars 
on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them
as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order
to rush down again.  In a way this is funny,...

Francis A Schaeffer

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Re: Newbie

2001-02-16 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
testing and woody both work fine.

- Jimmy Kaplowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 06:28:08PM -0500, D-Man wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 05:51:29PM -0500, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
> | First change all references to "stable" in your /etc/apt/sources.list to
> | "woody". Then
> 
> Shouldn't that be "testing" ?
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: Newbie

2001-02-16 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
I should answer honestly here; this is over my head. I sincerely hope that
someone on this list will have some idea. I am not familiar with TV tuner
hardware for Linux, since I don't own any.

I wish you good luck. Stick with it, these things usually do get worked out! :-)

- Jimmy Kaplowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 08:38:01AM +0800, #KUNDAN KUMAR# wrote:
> Thanks Jimmy,
>  Did the same as you asked. It worked fine, except for I had to give the
> aptget command with -f option, quite a few times.
>  However, now I am having some strange problems, the monitor (under X)
> suddenly freezes. Even the keyboard doesn't work. And after sometimes, it is
> alright.
>  Is it that my krenel is not well compiled? the kernel version is
> 2.2.18pre21. Some interesting things,  get in dmesg are:
> 
> ..
> CPU: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 01
> Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting.  
> ..
> PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086, DID=2411
> PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
> ..
> PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086, DID=2411
> PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA 
> ...
> 
> ---
> for my modules.conf, I have
> 
> # The BTTV module does not load the tuner module automatically,
> # so do that in here
> post-install bttv insmod tuner
> post-remove bttv insmod tuner
> 
> pre-remove serial /etc/init.d/setserial modsave  > /dev/null 2> /dev/nulll
> 
> ### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/setserial
> 
> ### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/arch/i386
> alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
> alias char-major-10-144 nvram
> alias binfmt-0064 binfmt_aout
> alias char-major-10-135 rtc  
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> Everything on the system is very slow, including telnet etc..
> 
> Help!
> Kundan 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jimmy Kaplowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 6:51 AM
> To: #KUNDAN KUMAR#
> Cc: Debian-User (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Newbie
> 
> 
> First change all references to "stable" in your /etc/apt/sources.list to
> "woody". Then
> type:
> 
> apt-get update
> apt-get dist-upgrade
> 
> All this is to be done as root. You could also upgrade to unstable instead
> of
> woody/testing by substituting "unstable" for "woody" above.
> 
> If you have any questions, write back to the list and if I can help I'll try
> to
> do so.
> 
> - Jimmy Kaplowitz
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 06:28:05AM +0800, #KUNDAN KUMAR# wrote:
> > Greetings to all!
> >  I have just Installed Debian Potato. Delighted to see that it could be
> > done. I am extremely new to apt-get and the other debian package
> managaement
> > tools. Had heard a lot of apt-get and thus I came to debian. apt-get is
> > cool.
> >  I have a small dumb problem. How can I just upgrade to woody. I could not
> > figure out the exact command??
> >  apt-get distupgrade woody??
> >  thanks for help
> > Kundan
> > 
> > 
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Re: Antwort: Rebooting is foolish ....

2001-02-16 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 06:19:29PM -0700, John Galt wrote:
> >want it active. If you change the partitiontable it might be usefull.
> 
> Linux Fdisk resyncs the disks almost immediately.  DOS fdisk requires a
> reboot to do this.  Did you reboot after running fdisk when installing
> Debian?

fdisk can only tell the kernel to re-read the partition table when
there are NO mounted filesystems on that disk.  so if you repartition
your root disk when booted from it you will have to reboot for the
kernel to be aware of the changes.  (repartitioning your root disk
while running off it strikes me as a rather poor idea anyway) kernel
2.4 *might* be able to reread the partition table on busy disks, at
least under some circumstances.  im not sure about that.

also note that 2.0 kernels had some obscure problems with rereading
the partition table and it was considered good practice to reboot
after altering partitions, this went away in 2.2 (and maybe later 2.0)
kernels

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apt-get and dpkg woes

2001-02-16 Thread Aaron Brashears
I recently decided to upgrade my system at home since it's been a
while. I ran into a lot of problems, and the upgrade was VERY rough. However, 
after all of my playing around with the system, it seems to be left in a 
partially broken state. When I try to do an apt-get uprage, here's what happens:

# apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: The package emacs19 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for 
it.


I don't really want emacs19 installed, and have emacs20 on the system
already, but emacs19 seems to be the currently installed
version. Attempts to remove emacs19 fail, because the package is in an
inconsistent state. Luckily, I still have an emacs19 deb in my apt
cache, but attempts to install that also fail.


# dpkg -i emacs19_19.34-26.5_i386.deb 
Selecting previously deselected package emacs19.
(Reading database ... 60015 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace emacs19 19.34-26.5 (using emacs19_19.34-26.5_i386.deb) ...
emacs-remove emacs19
Can't locate File/Glob.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.0 
/usr/local/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.0 
/usr/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux .) at 
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/generate-install-list line 27.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/generate-install-list line 27.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-remove line 20.
dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
emacs-remove emacs19
Can't locate File/Glob.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.0 
/usr/local/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.0 
/usr/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux .) at 
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/generate-install-list line 27.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/generate-install-list line 27.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-remove line 20.
dpkg: error processing emacs19_19.34-26.5_i386.deb (--install):
 subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
emacs-install emacs19
Can't locate File/Glob.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.0 
/usr/local/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.0 
/usr/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux .) at 
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/generate-install-list line 27.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/generate-install-list line 27.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 20.
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 emacs19_19.34-26.5_i386.deb


I really need some help here, since I can't figure this one out. Is
there any way to force a purge?



Re: Serial ports - how to get them to coexist peacefully...

2001-02-16 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 03:16:44AM +1100, hogan wrote:
> Can I make the onboard and oncard ttyS's play nice on same IRQ?

no.

>  or should I play musical jumpers until they're on separate IRQs?

yes.

> Read something in 2.4.1 kernel config about making serial ports nice to one
> another when on same IRQ.. anything similar in 2.2.x? 

AFAIK, that only works for some dumb 1655x-type multiport serial cards
- e.g. moxa 4/8 port cards and digiboards.

craig

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Re: apt-get and dpkg woes

2001-02-16 Thread Aaron Brashears
Well, skip any response to this you have. I seem to have killed most
of the system. I can still use the console, but X has died, as have several 
other programs. ssh still works though ;).


On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 07:43:00PM -0800, Aaron Brashears wrote:
> I recently decided to upgrade my system at home since it's been a
> while. I ran into a lot of problems, and the upgrade was VERY rough. However, 
> after all of my playing around with the system, it seems to be left in a 
> partially broken state. When I try to do an apt-get uprage, here's what 
> happens:
> 
> # apt-get upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> E: The package emacs19 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive 
> for it.
> 
> 
> I don't really want emacs19 installed, and have emacs20 on the system
> already, but emacs19 seems to be the currently installed
> version. Attempts to remove emacs19 fail, because the package is in an
> inconsistent state. Luckily, I still have an emacs19 deb in my apt
> cache, but attempts to install that also fail.
> 
> 
> # dpkg -i emacs19_19.34-26.5_i386.deb 
> Selecting previously deselected package emacs19.
> (Reading database ... 60015 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace emacs19 19.34-26.5 (using emacs19_19.34-26.5_i386.deb) 
> ...
> emacs-remove emacs19
> Can't locate File/Glob.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.0 
> /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 
> /usr/lib/perl/5.6.0 /usr/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux 
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux .) at 
> /usr/lib/emacsen-common/generate-install-list line 27.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
> /usr/lib/emacsen-common/generate-install-list line 27.
> Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-remove line 20.
> dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
> dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
> emacs-remove emacs19
> Can't locate File/Glob.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.0 
> /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 
> /usr/lib/perl/5.6.0 /usr/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux 
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux .) at 
> /usr/lib/emacsen-common/generate-install-list line 27.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
> /usr/lib/emacsen-common/generate-install-list line 27.
> Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-remove line 20.
> dpkg: error processing emacs19_19.34-26.5_i386.deb (--install):
>  subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
> emacs-install emacs19
> Can't locate File/Glob.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.0 
> /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 
> /usr/lib/perl/5.6.0 /usr/share/perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux 
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux .) at 
> /usr/lib/emacsen-common/generate-install-list line 27.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
> /usr/lib/emacsen-common/generate-install-list line 27.
> Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 
> 20.
> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  emacs19_19.34-26.5_i386.deb
> 
> 
> I really need some help here, since I can't figure this one out. Is
> there any way to force a purge?
> 
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PostgreSQL

2001-02-16 Thread Stewart Jenkins
Do I need postgresql starting up in my default runlevel of 2?  I am running 
only a workstation that handles ip_masq and port forwarding.  No database 
stuff that I am aware of.  Can I remove this service from the runlevel?

Thanks.

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esound 0.2.4 for potato?

2001-02-16 Thread Rob Rati
Anyone know if there is a deb of esoundd 0.2.4 or higher for potato?  I
was surprised to see 0.2.22 (I believe it is) in unstable.  Is there a
reason it's so far behind?  According to the esound site, the latest
stable version is 0.2.8.  Thanks.

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named dies mysteriously

2001-02-16 Thread Jeff Davis

I am running bind 8.2.2p7-1.

Every couple days, I notice that named is just not running. No errors in 
syslog, nothing. Before I had a couple duplicate entries in the 
named.conf file, and I thought maybe removing them fixed the problem, 
but it didn't. All I can do is just restart the daemon. I would prefer 
to not wait it out continuously because I don't like the downtime, but I 
did turn on a debugging option in ndc (hasn't crashed since then, but I 
think it is only a matter of when).


Thanks for any advice,
  Jeff Davis



Re: named dies mysteriously

2001-02-16 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 09:11:44PM -0800, Jeff Davis wrote:
> I am running bind 8.2.2p7-1.

vulnerable to root compromise.

> Every couple days, I notice that named is just not running. No errors in 
> syslog, nothing. Before I had a couple duplicate entries in the 
> named.conf file, and I thought maybe removing them fixed the problem, 
> but it didn't. All I can do is just restart the daemon. I would prefer 
> to not wait it out continuously because I don't like the downtime, but I 
> did turn on a debugging option in ndc (hasn't crashed since then, but I 
> think it is only a matter of when).

named crashes when the root exploit is run against it, but not before
giving the attacker a shell.  your box has probably suffered a root
compromise, unless of course you changed your bind setup to not run as
root (and run it in chroot preferably).  

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Re: apt-get via firewall

2001-02-16 Thread Osamu Aoki
Can you see web page from behind firewall?
If so, you can use http apt-get for sure.

For ftp apt-get and ipmasqarade firewall, you may need to
activate ftp module to get it run. 

Regards,
Osamu

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> Is there a way to run apt-get through a ftp/http firewall?
> 
> Thank you

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