Re: Font Smoothing in Xterm
Amit Uttamchandani: Xft.antialias: 1 Xft.dpi: 93 Xft.hinting: 1 Xft.hintstyle: hintfull Xft.rgba: rgb Thank you for your suggestions. I will try this out. I am by the way using DWM for my window manager and I have an .Xdefaults file with some xterm font settings. Should I put your config there or in a separate .Xresources file? No, Xdefaults should be fine if you are already using it. J. -- All participation is a myth. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: All linux-image-2.6-* packages in Etch/4.0 vulnurable?
Marcus Blumhagen: Packages I found depending on the wrong kernel version: linux-image-2.6-xen-686, linux-image-2.6-xen-vserver-686, linux-image-2.6-486, linux-image-2.6-686, linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem, linux-image-2.6-amd64, linux-image-2.6-k7, linux-image-2.6-vserver-686, linux-image-2.6-vserver-k7 I cannot confirm this with up-to-date package descriptions from ftp2.de.debian.org. I didn't check all of the packages, but at least linux-image-2.6-k7 (what you are using) and linux-image-2.6-686 (what I am using) actually do depend on their related linux-image-2.6.18-5-* package. J. -- Whenever I hear the word 'art' I reach for my visa card. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Changing the look of GTK apps from the commandline
Amit Uttamchandani: Since I don't run GNOME Environment, is there anyway I can change the look of the GTK apps from the commandline. Specifically, can i just download a theme and change a config file? Yes. Download theme, unpack it somewhere (IIRC, ~/.themes is a good place) and edit your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 (or create if empty): include /path-to-theme/gtk-2.0/gtkrc J. -- No-one appears to be able to help me. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: new drive = new install?
David A.: What is common practice when migrating a system from one drive to another. Should I reinstall from scratch or partition the new drive and copy everything from the old one? Reinstallation is not necessary. There are plenty of HOWTOs available, one being http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html. J. -- I use a Playstation to block out the existence of my partner. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Migrate debian services to a new debian system
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Okay, so I want to make the asrock my server...it is quieter and uses less power. I don't have a lot of time for trouble shooting etc. so I want to plan this out so it mostly works on the first shot. My strategy is to setup each services one at a time...then transfer to the new system and disable it on the old. If I were you, I'd just install a stock Debian kernel on the server (if it doesn't already have one) and swap the hard drives between the two machines. That might already do it. J. -- My memories gild my life with rare transcendance. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: why sarge is so noisy
Julian De Marchi: Serena Cantor wrote: Thanks! Could you give me a list of programs that start automatically? Do you mean that there's nothing I can do about it? snip Silly question. No, it's not a silly question. Serena, of course you can do something about it. It's linux, afterall. You can use the commands 'ps' or 'top' to have a look what is currently running. Then look into /etc/rc2.d/ which contains links to all scripts that are run at boot. Search the net and read how the init system works and finally remove any services you don't currently need. Another thing that came to my mind: if you are using a journaling filesystem (like ext3 which I think is Debian's default), the journal will be regularly committed to disk which causes disk spinups every ~5 seconds. J. -- Quite often I wonder why I am not more famous and/or more wealthy. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: After Installing ISO Image I cant access GUI and Nedd sources.list file
Mostafijur Rahman: I tried to install GUI after installing my ISO CD.But I think problem in file /etc/apt/sources.list . You are messing up a few things. It is always better to describe your original problem than to ask how to accomplish what you think *might* solve your problem. So, instead of saying I cannot install a GUI, please tell me what to put in my sources.list you should better say: I installed Debian (which version?) on my machine (what kind of machine?) but I couldn't tell the installer to install some kind of GUI (which one?). I tried $foo but it resulted in error message $bar. I copy the example file in my /etc/apt/sources.list file http://wiki.debian.org/sources%2elist_example?highlight=%28sources.list%29 If you wanted to install pure Debian stable, this is most probably not what you want. The installer should have asked you about that anyway. But well, here's what I guess is what you want/need: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security etch/updates main contrib non-free After that, run apt-get update (or better: aptitude update) once or twice and you should be ready to install anything you want. J. -- As a child I pulled the legs from a spider. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: After Installing ISO Image I cant access GUI and Nedd sources.list file
Andrei Popescu: On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 09:46:50AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: If you wanted to install pure Debian stable, this is most probably not what you want. The installer should have asked you about that anyway. But well, here's what I guess is what you want/need: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free AFAIK ftp.debian.org is kept only for legacy reasons. Thanks, nice to know. I just took my own entried and removed the country code. J. -- Nothing is as I planned it. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: After Installing ISO Image I cant access GUI and Nedd sources.list file
Andrei Popescu: On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 08:12:55PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: Andrei Popescu: On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 09:46:50AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free AFAIK ftp.debian.org is kept only for legacy reasons. Thanks, nice to know. I just took my own entried and removed the country code. Do you mean put in instead of removed? Um, no. I am using ftp.de.debian.org and removed the de part before posting the proposal (check the attribution lines). But I mistyped entries. :) J. -- I want to look younger than my friends so I will fight ageing as long as I can. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Tool for document management
Steve Lamb: I am looking for a tool to help me maintain a backup of a writing project. I kept all my documents (PDF, PPT, DOC, OOo, Latex etc.) from university in SVN while studying. Before I tried SVN, I had used unison but that didn't scale well to more than two computers and I couldn't use it without specific client software at all when using university computers (SVN can be accessed via Apache). I'd probably do that again today, I'd only consider trying svk or some other distributed vcs because it is nice to be able to commit offline. Of course, having your repository 24/7 accessible via the net helps a lot. J. -- I am on the payroll of a company to whom I owe my undying gratitude. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Tool for document management
Steve Lamb: However the decision came down to one factor which I did not list. When I was reviewing SVN one thing popped into my head over and over, Why Perl!? What does Subversion have to do with Perl? (Not that I think your decision is wrong, I just don't know what you're referring to.) J. -- Television advertisements are the apothesis of twentieth century culture. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management)
Steve Lamb: To be fair I am operating out a large measure of ignorance. :) One of my main concerns is that the typesetting languages are languages. I'm sure they're robust but I have always seen their use tied to another editor. Since an outside editor is required it is my impression that there is no WYSIWYG, no way to get a basic view of how it might look printed outside of actually doing whatever magic it is to send it off to a printer. Which I don't have. Hm? Usually, you have one editor (Notepad-like or something more advanced) for your Latex code and some viewer application where you can see your compiled document (PDF, DVI). However, the more you get used to it, the less you need to know how exactly some specific markup looks like. You can always adjust the details at a later time without touching the actual contents of your document. I know that there is a special Latex-mode for Emacs which displays some kind of inline-preview directly in your editor. I like vim better, though, so I cannot tell much about it. Also the end result of my labor will be to send this out to be published. I have seen many publishers take submissions in Word, plain text or printed out. I've yet to see one accept LaTeX. So without a printer I am stuck with transforming what I want into an acceptable format and plain text won't so. I am using some formatting. Nothing fancy, noting that will cause formatting inconsistencies. But just enough that plain text is unacceptable. Sounds like a job for reStructured Text to me, but that's unacceptable as well, probably. ;-) J. -- It is not in my power to change anything. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: It's 3am and I have no caffeine
Chuck Payne: Now I am trying to get count to work with zgrep. When I do zgrep -c, I get a what I am looking for and not a count. Anyway try to play with it to figure before I crash. You may have to resort to this: gunzip -c foo_file.gz | grep -c bar_pattern J. -- When I get home from the supermarket I don't know what to do with all the plastic. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian Mail through Exchange Server
Joel Roberts: Does anyone know of a walkthrough or how to configure the Debian server to route mail messages through the Exchange server? Exchange should be able to speak plain SMTP so it isn't any different than other MTAs. You may use 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4' (or whatever MTA you already have installed) to set it up or install some really simple SMTP client like ssmtp which can only do what you currently need. J. -- People talking a foreign language are romantic and mysterious. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Dovecot duplicating emails
Alexander: Almost all (not quite all) emails that arrive and sit in the Inbox get copied and appear 2x, 3x . . the longer I leave it the more copies I get. This happens only to emails received during a Thunderbird session. If I shut TBird down and restart, only the emails received after the restart will be affected. Very strange. Are you using Dovecot from etch or a version from backports.org? I suggest you use the latter since etch's version has known problems. (I haven't heard of this problem, though.) Still, I am having trouble to imagine how Dovecot might responsible for this strange behaviour. I'd try another client and see whether the problem persists. Another point-of-failure might lie in your mail delivery program. How are mails delivered to your maiboxes? J. -- People talking a foreign language are romantic and mysterious. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: why not compiled eagle adsl
abdelkader belahcene: I want to install the eagle for usb adsl, but it requires the source of kernel, Why there is no compiled package as other softwares? I don't know the software, but my guess would be the reason is a problem with the license. Debian adheres to the DFSG (Debian Free Software Guidelines). Another reason might be that simply no one has packaged the software yet. With adsl thru ethernet there is no such problem. am I obligied to download (44 MB) and recompile the source kernel to use my adsl ? No, if you are running a stock Debian kernel, you can install the appropriate linux-headers-* package. J. -- I feel yawning hollowness whilst talking to people at parties. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: online sourcecode viewer
Hugo Vanwoerkom: On this list some time ago there was named a web sourcecode viewer: a server to which you could register and on which you could put chunks of code so that other people could look at it. Even though your description reminds me of Sourceforge, you are probably looking for pastebin and similar services. J. -- I wish I could do more to put the sparkle back into my marriage. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: apt-get not working
muthuraman.s: I use Ubuntu 7.04 and when I try to install K7(thinking to increase the speed) kernel for the PC with apt-get, I get the following error.not only for K7 it says the same message except for the package name( last word in the message). I do not know what is wrong . Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package linux-k7 Apparently, Ubuntu doesn't contain a package with that name (Debian doesn't either). Search for valid package names by running apt-cache search linux-image k7 J. -- Looking into my eyes is the only way you'll know I'm telling the truth. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian server software setup question
David Labens: I'm interested in the Debian Linux software for use in building a home file server. I'll need it to provide print server function CUPS. as well as file backup Several options, depending on your needs. and UPS shutdown support. Depends on UPS in use. Many are supported, as far as I know. Also, I want clients on my Win'XP Professional desktops so that they can login to the server. TightVNC or some other VNC server. Separate and common file storage space is needed, based upon user. Samba. This can also export your CUPS printers to Windows systems and provide them with the necessary driver. I'm going to run it on a P3-800 with 640 MB ram. Might be a little slow if you have several users connected at once. Does Debian have all that I need? Yes. As does every other linux distribution. ;-) J. -- If all my friends had Playstations I would buy a Nintendo to prove my individuality. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: updating to last sarge
roberto: in order to perform a distro upgrade to debian etch i have to do the update to the last released sarge (as stated in debian official guide to this kind of upgrade) so i have to change the occurrences of stable in my /etc/apt/sources.list to sarge If you are currently using stable entries and have already made upgrades or installed any package after etch has been released, you are most probably running a mix of etch and sarge already. On official mirrors, stable always refers to the current stable version which is etch now. By using stable in your sources.list, you automatically receive packages from a new stable version as soon as it is released. Running 'aptitude upgrade' in your situation should show a lot of packages being kept back. If this is the case, you should try to do 'aptitude dist-upgrade' in order to bring your system to a consistent state. You may have to run this more than once to resolve all dependencies. Since you appear to have already read the release notes, I don't think there's anything else you need to do. J. -- I think the environment will be okay. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Striping comment from configuration files on stdout
Jean-Louis Crouzet: #cat sip.conf | grep -v ^; That's a useless use of cat. :) You may instead just do grep -v '^;' sip.conf If you want to strip empty lines and lines beginning with whitespace followed by a ';' as well, do grep -E -v '(^\s*;)|^\s*$' J. -- When standing at the top of beachy head I find the rocks below very attractive. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problem building Linux Kernel
Randy Patterson - [Tech]: In file included from scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.c:24: scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:32:20: error: curses.h: No such file or directory Your system is missing libncurses5-dev. J. -- I enjoy shopping, eating, sex and doing jigsaw puzzles of idealised landscapes. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Striping comment from configuration files on stdout
Jean-Louis Crouzet: Jochen Schulz wrote: If you want to strip empty lines and lines beginning with whitespace followed by a ';' as well, do grep -E -v '(^\s*;)|^\s*$' OK thanks for the tip now running. I still need display line such as bindport=5060 ; UDP Port to bind to (SIP standard port is 5060) The pattern above should match only lines that either - consist only of whitespace, or - start with whitespace, followed directly by a semicolon so it should do what you want. But I agree that the other one is easier to memorize. Regular expressions are write-only -- it's easier to learn how to write them than to read them without understanding them. ;-) J. -- Atrocities committed in Rwanda pervade my mind when I am discussing mundanities with acquaintances. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sid/Unstable
Jeff Grossman: [...] How dangerous would it be for me to move completely to unstable? I do not think it would be particularly dangerous. Security updates generally reach sid quite fast (but, of course, without guarantee). But with about seven years of Debian experience, I still refrain from running unstable on machines offering services on the internet. By the way, currently there is a problem with the machines building new packages for sid. That means sid users are getting no updates whatsoever. No security updates, no new upstream releases, no bug fixes. Stable users on the other hand do get security support. Has anybody completely trashed their system by running unstable? The risk of a faulty upgrade that seriously breaks your system is quite low. I am running sid on my main desktop for probably five years already and it never happened to me. But there sometimes is serious collateral damage. IIRC, once there was a script for package configuration that (accidentally) did something like 'rm -rf /'. I wasn't hit by this, but that was pure luck. You have to be prepared to be a beta tester all the time. Another aspect that you should consider is that it takes quite some effort to keep a sid system up to date. Every time you upgrade, you might install some version of a package that demands a new configuration file syntax, introduces new bugs or isn't compatible with another package you rely on. If availability of your services is in any way important to one of your users, I don't think sid is appropriate. Another experience of mine is that it is a really bad idea to have inexperienced or more or less computer-illiterate people using a sid system directly (as a desktop user). For these people it is quite confusing when their desktop environment or office application receives an upgrade which changes its appearance. I do not think that sid usage is generally a bad idea, even for inexperienced users. But you should not use sid on a system you or other people rely on and you should be prepared to learn about how Debian works and how to act when it doesn't. J. -- Ultimately, the Millenium Dome is a spectacular monument of the doublethink of our times. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Suggest core2duo motherboard for debian.
Semih Gokalp: Hi.I have Asus P5K SE motherboard and can not install debian etch amd64. When I try install debian etch,cd-rom device not mount so i can not install. You might try to use thew installer for lenny, since it contains a more recent kernel. At http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ you even find an installer for etch which is using 2.6.23. One minute of googling revealed that your board probably uses a JMicron IDE controller which should be supported by a recent kernel. For older kernels, the boot option generic.all_generic_ide=1 might help out. J. -- I count my partner's eyelashes. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: updates in Sid
Frank McCormick: I usually run aptitude updating my Sid system every two or three days but lately (the past week or so) there are no new packages. Is it possible I did something with aptitude to cause it to ignore new stuff ? No. There was a problem with Debian's build machine, but now it's up again and your mirror should synchronize today or tomorrow. There's no need for you to do anything. BTW, this has been asked several times on this list in the last few days and an announcement has been sent to debian-devel-announce. As a sid user, it's probably a good idea to subscribe to that list (very low volume). J. -- I like my Toyota RAV4 because of the commanding view of the traffic jams. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: any pages listing text mode resolutions of video cards?
Daniel B.: Kevin, And setting vga=771 or similar in your kernel options? Yes. I've been using vga=10 in my kernel options (via LILO) to set the virtual console text mode resolution at boot time. I am not absolutely sure, but I don't think vga=10 gives you a real framebuffer. It just changes the font, which may result in more characters on your display. If your monitor has an on-screen menu you should be able to verify that. vga=771 (and similar values) on the other hand really switches display resolution (and color depth) and is most certainly what you want. A virtual terminal in 1024x768 pixels looks really nice. I recommend installing console-terminus as well. J. -- If all my friends had Playstations I would buy a Nintendo to prove my individuality. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: disk failure
michael:
'tiger' just told me various home directories are unavailable and upon
further investigation I see disk errors. Here's the first reports I can
find regarding said hard drive:
Nov 13 02:23:01 ratty /USR/SBIN/CRON[19292]: (michael) CMD (rsync -r -v
-P --links --stats /data_hdb1/michael/ /data_hdd1/michael/)
Nov 13 02:27:32 ratty kernel: hdd: dma_timer_expiry: dma status == 0x61
Nov 13 02:27:47 ratty kernel: hdd: DMA timeout error
Nov 13 02:27:47 ratty kernel: hdd: dma timeout error: status=0x58
{ DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
If I were you, I would assume it is dead. Try to copy everything you
still can get off the disk, use your backup for the rest.
If you are curious, you may use smartctl from the package smartmontools
to do further investigation. Your hard disk's manufacturer probably
offers diagnostic tools as well.
Does anybody have ideas if this means the HD has actually died or not?
It's most probably dead.
J.
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Re: How to mount ext3 so the files belong to a specific user?
Kent West: I have a partition that I'm mounting in a specific user's home directory, and want that user to be able to read/write to that partition. However, I've been unable to find (google, man, etc) any way to accomplish this; the few hints I have found indicate it works fine with a VFAT partition, or that you can manually chown the perms after the mount, but it seems crazy to me that you'd not be able to set ownership at mount time. As far as I know, you can't. And I think this is reasonable, since ownership info is stored in the filesystem itself (as opposed to VFAT, which doesn't know the concept of ownership at all). Are you aware that you only need to tweak the permissions to your liking once? Just create an ext2/3 filesystem, mount it as root and then change the permissions of the mount point. This will affect the root directory of your new file system and doesn't affect the mount point's permissions. (Sounds weird, but if you think about it, it's the best thing to do.) After that, set up a line in your fstab (with the user option) and you're done. Then any user may mount the filesystem, but only the user who mounted it (and root, of course) may umount it. J. -- After the millenium I will shoot to kill. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to mount ext3 so the files belong to a specific user?
Kent West: Jochen Schulz wrote: Are you aware that you only need to tweak the permissions to your liking once? Just create an ext2/3 filesystem, mount it as root and then change the permissions of the mount point. This will affect the root directory of your new file system and doesn't affect the mount point's permissions. (Sounds weird, but if you think about it, it's the best thing to do.) That's nuts! It isn't. I told you to think about it. :) To elaborate a bit more: remember that your mount point is actually represented by two different directories. The first one lives on the filesystem where you executed mkdir. You only see it as long as you haven't mounted any other filesystem on top of it. The second one is the root directory of the filesystem you mount on that directory. It (obviously) lives on that other filesystem and what I have told you is how to manipulate the permissions of that directory. This is actually a very clean and consistent application of the whole filesystem concept on unix systems. :) The only thing to remember is that a user needs to have at least (IIRC +rx rights on the mount point. And, of course, she needs permissions from fstab (or some automounter running as root). J. -- I wish I looked more like a successful person even though I'm a loser. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Filesize limit exceeded on ext3
André Wendt: I'm running a benchmark program on Lenny that writes into a file and repeatedly exits once the filesize reaches 2,099,204 bytes. This is on ext3. $ ulimit -f unlimited $ uname -a Linux think 2.6.22-2-686 #1 SMP Fri Aug 31 00:24:01 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux This doesn't seem to be a problem for other programs. I have a VirtualBox snapshot as large as 2,587,808 bytes. Are both files on the same filesystem? Which one are you using in either case? J. -- In the west we kill people like chickens. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian ISO question
Mark Quitoriano: im new to debian im looking which version should i download. i can see the stable version is 4.0 but when i look for the ISO i only see debian-4.0r1? is this the latest? or is it a release candidate? No, the 'r' stands for revision. When downloading an image, always pick the highest revision. But if you already have an older revision lying around, upgrading is easy, so you don't necessarily have to download the newest version. another thing is im going to use deb for a web server? i just need to get the disc 1 right(network installation is not an option for me :) )? Yep, disc 1 should contain almost or even everything you need. J. -- There is no justice in road accidents. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Anyone using icewm on Sid?
Anthony Campbell: Following today's upgrade on Sid I've started getting complete lockups in X. I thought at first it was a bug in xserver-xorg and submitted a bug report but now I think it's to do with icewm. Same here with current IceWM and X.org from unstable. The machine wasn't completely dead, though. I could still shut it down cleanly by pressing the poweroff button. J. -- People talking a foreign language are romantic and mysterious. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Anyone using icewm on Sid?
Andrei Popescu: On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 08:46:23PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: Yep, happens to me too, with icewm-session and -experimental. Something is definitely wrong as the graphics in the toolbar are all messed up. According to the aptitude log, icewm wasn't updated (on my machine) since September. It is probably related to the latest xorg update. Which graphics hardware are you guys using? [...] lspci | grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) Same here. Setting Option AccelMethod XAA in the device section of my xorg.conf (and subsequently restarting X) didn't help, though. This would have surprised me anyway since the lockup only occurs when opening the menu with Ctrl-Esc, not when using the mouse or when pressing the left windows key. J. -- I wish I was gay. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Kent West: What I'm concerned about is the chord names (A, D, etc) need to line up with the word where the chords change, which means exact placement will be necessary. I currently do this in OO.o with a monospace font and manually spacing over to where the chord name goes. I am sure this works reasonably well, but I gues it is a little bit ugly. You can sureley do exactly the same thing with LaTeX, but if you do it doesn't gain you very much. As an alternative, there are some LaTeX styles directly related to your problem and their example output looks quite good: http://www.rath.ca/Misc/Songbook/index.shtml The songs will be one (or maybe two or three short ones) to a page, with a few taking two or three pages. The pages won't be numbered, but I will want them in alphabetical order by category (mine, Christmas songs, Country songs, etc), and then a table of contents. This way I can add a new song/page without having to re-print the entire book of songs; I can just print the one song and the newly-generated table of contents, and then replace the current TOC in my book with the new one and put the new song/page into the proper place alphabetically into the book. I do not think LaTeX can help you with the task of automatically sorting the songs for you, but you are not forced to use page numbers and TOC generation is really easy. And my second question: Is the learning curve going to be worth it, or should I just stick to OO.o which pretty much does the job already? As I have never used LaTeX for this task, I cancot comment on whether it's worth learning LaTeX only for this task. However, after learning it by doing a beamer presentation and then doing my diploma thesis with it, I found it very useful for other tasks (resume writing, DIN-compliant letters) as well. The learning curve is not that steep, at least if you are a little bit familiar with other markup or programming languages. So the benefits of learning LaTeX, as I see it, is that is a useful tool for a lot of tasks and that it generally produces (sometimes awesomely) beautiful output. J. -- Watching television is more hip than actually speaking to anyone. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: LaTeX with monospace material
Kent West: Looks promising, but the learning curve appears to be a right-angle. From page 2 of the manual: If you are not familiar with TEX at all I would recommend to find another software package to do musical typesetting. Setting up TEX and MusiXTEX on your machine and mastering it is an awesome job which gobbles up a lot of your time and disk space. But, once you master it... Hans Kuykens At least the part about the setup most probably does not apply to Debian at all, since the packages should just work out of the box. J. -- Atrocities committed in Rwanda pervade my mind when I am discussing mundanities with acquaintances. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: apt-get update success but with errors
Jonas Geiregat: Hello, At the end of the 'apt-get update' I get the follow output: Fetched 74.6kB in 6s (11.3kB/s) Reading package lists... Done W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A70DAF536070D3A1 Apt in testing and unstable has a new feature (well, it's already a few months old). It can check cryptographic signatures to make sure that the mirror you are using distributes exactly the same packages as the official Debian archive. This way the compromise of a mirror cannot go unnoticed. For this to work, apt needs public keys (google for asymmetric crypthography) of the Debian archive. These are contained in the package debian-archive-keyring. W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems Funny I just ran apt-get update while apt-get suggest I should run it again to fix the errors. I think this is just a generic message apt-get uses when something may have gone wrong. The more specific message above (about the public key) is more important. J. -- I think the environment will be okay. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Where is debian-non-US
Dave Ewart: On Tuesday, 06.03.2007 at 10:48 -0600, John Hasler wrote: It it my understanding (which may be obsolete or even simply erroneous) that in Germany computer games are not to be made available to children unless they have been approved and that the approval costs money. This is true. I haven't heard of any enforcement actions yet, but you may not distribute computer games (whatever the definition is!) to minors unless it has been approved. I think this has already killed a few magazines with CD-ROM add-ons. Also, just as an example, certain games fall foul of Germany's (and other countries) anti-Nazi laws; e.g. Return to Castle Wolfenstein could not be distributed in Germany because of all the swastikas, apparently. Correct. And on the EU level they are even discussing to make a similar law obligatory for all member states. J. -- I am worried that my dreams pale in comparison beside TV docu-soaps. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How often should I fsck my ext3 partitions?
Johannes Wiedersich: The debian default of my sarge installations is that the ext3-FS are fsck'ed about every 30 mounts or 180 days (whatever comes first). Just in case you don't know already: you can change that with tune2fs. What is a reasonable schedule for a server or a workstation? I do not know of any generally applicable rule of thumb for this question. I do not run really important production servers, but I have switched automatic fscking off completely on most of the workstations I am regularly using, because it can be really annoying. And after five years of using linux I am still waiting for the day that a run of fsck reports problems I did not know about beforehand. To prevent unexpected data loss, I install smartmontools on my machines and let it regularly run hardware self tests. Of course this protection mechanism works on a lower level than checking the integrity of the file systems, but I have never seen an ext3 or XFS filesystem being corrupt without hardware errors (or hard shutdowns). Production servers are different, obviously, but since you normally don't reboot them at regular intervals, running fsck at reboot time every $x days or every $y reboots doesn't gain you anything. I am inclined to believe that this feature stems from earlier times when the filesystem modules have not been as reliable as they are today. J. -- Whenever I hear the word 'art' I reach for my visa card. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: convert the DVD region
gustavo halperin: There are any way to rip a DVD region 4 and make a new DVD but with another region ?? Self-burned DVD generally do not contain a region code, so they can be played on any player. I found this quite interesting page on this topic: http://server.iad.liveperson.net/hc/s-77406906/cmd/kbresource/kb-8580485661754025/view_question!PAGETYPE?action=viewdocumentid=16328sf=101113sg=1sp=6st=857875 I do not know whether DVD authoring software in Debian can set a region code if you want one, though. J. -- I think the environment will be okay. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: broken upgrade of postfix_2.3.7-3 - 2.3.8-2 (etch)
Michael Shuler: Today's postfix update has broken my smtp configuration, I had the same issue and solved it temporarily by installing OpenSSL from unstable. See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=415670. The release manager noted that unstable's version of OpenSSL won't be included in etch, though, so that downgrading postfix until a fixed version becomes available may be a better option. J. -- In the west we kill people like chickens. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup
Jian Jun Wang: I installed Debian etch on my laptop and I want to configure fetchmail to get my mails from gmail. In order to run fetchmail at startup, I did 1. Installed sysv-rc-conf and toggle fetchmail in it as root 2. edit /etc/default/fetchmail, to make it as daemon 3. edit $HOME/.fetchmailrc The system-wide fetchmail daemon doesn' use users' .fetchmailrc but only reads /etc/fetchmailrc. J. -- In this bunker there are women and children. There are no weapons. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Favorite Email/Calender/PIM and Why
Andrew Sackville-West: On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:06:31AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: So in short; Does anyone know of any good calender applications that dock into a system tray? I use orage a little and its okay. Don't know if it works outside xfce though... Yes it does. I don't know how exactly it behaves in Xfce, but I have been running it (without using it much) under IceWM and with a few tweaks in ~/.icewm/winoptions it displayed just fine in the systray. Left-clicking opens the calendar, right-clicking opens the menu for adding appointments etc. J. -- I can tell a Whopper[tm] from a BigMac[tm] and Coke[tm] from Pepsi[tm]. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian , Ian Murdock
Florian Kulzer: My impression is that most, if not all, of the dist-upgrade problems posted here are related to going to testing before it is released, or even involve unstable and experimental. + a lot of the problems only occur because many people *always* use dist-upgrade *and* they do not read when apt(itude) tells them it is going to remove their Gnome/KDE/kernel etc. I am running sid on my desktop machines and generally only do 'aptitude upgrade's because I can still concentrate on packages that may have been held back afterwards. J. -- The houses of parliament make me think of school bullies. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup
Ron Johnson: On 03/22/07 08:03, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and put '@startup fetchmail' (no quotes in either case). Then, whenever your machine starts up, it should start fetchmail for you. Shouldn't it also put a symlink in /etc/rc3.d ? No. Things in crontabs are started by cron (d'ouh!). And cron itself is already started by an init script. J. -- Every day in every way I am getting better and better. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup
Roberto C. Sánchez: To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and put '@startup fetchmail' Oh, and BTW: it's @reboot, not @startup. :) J. -- I worry about people thinking I have lost direction. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup
Ron Johnson: On 03/22/07 08:18, Jochen Schulz wrote: Ron Johnson: On 03/22/07 08:03, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and put '@startup fetchmail' (no quotes in either case). Then, whenever your machine starts up, it should start fetchmail for you. Shouldn't it also put a symlink in /etc/rc3.d ? No. Things in crontabs are started by cron (d'ouh!). And cron itself is already started by an init script. I think you're wrong. My system does fetchmail startup using runlevels. Yes, mine does that, too. But: if every user needing fetchmail has a .fetchmailrc and the crontab entry mentioned above (minus the typo), you do not need the system-wide daemon. That's the situation I was referring to (and which I quoted). If your /etc/fetchmailrc is empty anyway, you can edit /etc/default/fetchmail to disable the system-wide fetchmail daemon altogether. This solution has the advantage, that every user can manage his/her own POP accounts (without the admin knowing their passwords), but the disadvantage is that you have a fetchmail process for every user. J. -- We are lining up to see you fall flat on your face. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup
Ron Johnson: On 03/22/07 09:39, Jochen Schulz wrote: If your /etc/fetchmailrc is empty anyway, you can edit /etc/default/fetchmail to disable the system-wide fetchmail daemon altogether. This solution has the advantage, that every user can manage his/her own POP accounts (without the admin knowing their passwords), but the disadvantage is that you have a fetchmail process for every user. Are you talking about having a fetchmail daemon for *each* user? Yes. On most peoples' systems there's only a fistful of anyway. J. -- Ultimately, the Millenium Dome is a spectacular monument of the doublethink of our times. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup
Roberto C. Sánchez: On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 02:21:45PM +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: Roberto C. Sánchez: To make it start up as user, edit your crontab (use `crontab -e`) and put '@startup fetchmail' Oh, and BTW: it's @reboot, not @startup. :) Doh! My mistake. I was going from memory and didn't want to login to the machine that has the crontab entry to check. :-) I had to look it up, too. @reboot is a misnomer in my opinion, anyway. It appears to be run only on warm boots while in fact it is run at every startup. J. -- I am getting worse rather than better. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup
Greg Folkert: On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 23:26 +0100, Jochen Schulz wrote: Yes. On most peoples' systems there's only a fistful of anyway. ^ users You are fooling yourself. Run them a one shot cronjob set to run every 10-30 minutes. Much better use of resources on the machine. The fetchmail daemon takes almost no memory nor CPU when idling, so that's a weak argument for most machines (as long as we're not talking about wireless routers etc.). As I have said before, fetchmail WILL die or hang on you, when run in daemon mode. I /had/ fetchmail running in daemon mode for something between three to five years and five to ten POP3 accounts, but I have never experienced the problems you describe. I do still believe, too, that fetchmail isn't exactly the flagship of Free Software code quality. I have switched my own POP accounts to getmail a while ago already and just yesterday I moved my girlfriend's account to getmail, too. J. -- Quite often I wonder why I am not more famous and/or more wealthy. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup
Ron Johnson: [...] Why created multiple daemons for activity that's going to run every X number of minutes, when cron is already specialized for that purpose? It just doesn't hurt. Maybe one could even argue that letting fetchmail run in daemon mode takes less resources over time than having to start it periodically (binary/libs fell out of disk cache, rereading of config files). But fetchmail is really low on resources anyway, so I think it is not worth optimizing the usage model further. At least not on my machine (P3, 256MB RAM), which is idling most of the time anyway. Whatever. I am not trying to convince anybody about how to use fetchmail. Recently, I have purged it from my system. :) J. -- I often blame my shortcomings on my upbringing. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Measuring optimizing broadband speed
Zach: I am looking for accurate methods of measuring broadband speed, particularly for a 728 kbps / 128 kbps DSL line. To monitor interface throughput, I often use nload. It shows an ASCII graph and cur/max/avg bandwith usage. I want to see how close my real world throughput gets to the advertised bandwidth. Also what is the theoretical maximum and minimum ping (average return time) and lag (standard deviation of the ping) This heavily depends on the connection to your house, I think. Everything under 100ms is acceptable for me. for such a DSL line? Is there any sort of MTU, routing table or TCP/IP stack changes I can make (if so please explain how) to increase my latency, lag and packet loss? I use Debian lenny with a 2.6.18 kernel. Oh yes I will have a static IP address. pppd should handle things like MTU and setting up routes. Latency and packet loss are basically out of your control (until you have a gross misconfiguration on your side). J. -- As a child I pulled the legs from a spider. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Linux network security poll
Zach: I need to get serious about security since I will be soon connected to the net almost 24x7 (barring a power outage etc.) so I was wondering if list members could explain their security setup (network configuration, DMZ, firewalls, IDS, logging, etc.). I just have a router between the internet and my clients. It forwards two or three ports to another machine (SSH, http, ...) and otherwise is busy NATting. That's it. Also what would you recommend for someone like me who is still on an entry level in terms of my understanding of Linux and network security and what would recommend for later on down the road once I get more sophisticated? The most important thing for you is to get a basic knowledge about TCP/IP and the theory behind it (ISO/OSI model). If you have that, the rest is just about picking the tool you want to use. It probably never hurts to learn how to use iptables directly before you start using frontends for it. J. -- In an ideal world I would cure poverty and go to the gym at least three days a week. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Bad E-mail setup in office. I need advice
Dawn Light: Some incoming messages are adressed to the office and some are addressed to the various architects ( There is only one E-mail address). Thus anyone who wishes to read his incoming messages and send messages needs to physically go and use the workstation with the mail client. This, if you haven't guessed already, it somewhat uncomfortable for daily work in the office. If I were you, I'd take an existing Debian machine and install Dovecot. It could provide all clients with the mails fetched by fetchmail. You just need an IMAP capable mail client (even Outlook Express should do, although I wouldn't recommend it) and then the architects could access their mail from their own workstations. If there is a reliable way to recognize which mail is addresses to which architect, you could even filter the mails using procmail or maildrop so that each architect has his/her own mailbox. Then set up your MTA (default: exim, I prefer Postfix) to relay mails for all your clients and you're done. This is a very common setup, postfix.org should provide you with some example configurations. J. -- It is not in my power to change anything. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How do I upgrade to sid?
Dennis G. Wicks: IIRC somebody said they were running sid and had no problems with Iceweasel so I'm thinking that upgrading might be the answer to my problems. It may be the answer, but upgrading to sid will pose a whole lot of new questions. If you don't know how to upgrade, you probably aren't ready to deal with the kind of problems sid will bring. How do I do it? Is it as easy as aptitude dist-upgrade ?? No, you have to add sid to your sources.list. J. -- When I am doing sex I wonder if my emotions can be detected by alien civilisations. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Java Plugin for Iceweasel for AMD 64 bit Debian?
Amogh Hooshdar: I have Debian installed on AMD 64 bit laptop. How can I install the java plugin for iceweasel? You can't, since there is none. I have heard that Sun has not released a Java plugin for AMD 64-bit. Is this true? Yes. Your only option is to install a 32bit chroot with Firefox and Java in it and run Firefox from there. J. -- People talking a foreign language are romantic and mysterious. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How do I upgrade to sid?
Martin Mewes: Javier Vasquez schrieb: Then the rest is kind of recipy for upgrading: -- aptitude clean -- aptitude update -- aptitude safe-upgrade -- aptitude full-upgrade If _I_ do this nearly the complete system would be erased when I _would_ answer Y in the end. Just my 2 cents ... I guess the reason is that you have never really used aptitude. Aptitude distinguishes two different states of installed packages: automatically and manually installed. When beginning to use aptitude, it will in many cases assume all or most packages have been installed automatically (pulled in as a dependency of another package). And if no manually installed package depends on a package aptitude thinks has been automatically installed, it will remove it. That's one of aptitude's best features. On the other hand, this is the biggest hurdle when starting to use aptitude and yes, it's a real pain for users who never installed from scratch since sarge (or didn't bother to follow the release note's advice to use aptitude after installation). Anyway, everyone who thinks he is able to handle sid should be able to a) read what a package manager is about to do and b) find out by himself how to upgrade to sid. J. -- I spend money without thinking on products and clothes that I believe will enhance my social standing. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Strange /usr/bin file
Ron Johnson: On 02/11/08 09:33, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: /me wonders just how much more he has to learn before he thinks that he knows a reasonable amount about Linux... Very few people are true, complete *ix gurus anymore... According to this mail2phpBB gateway, at least I am a *nix forums Guru wannabe: http://nixforums.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofileu=5104. Only 2000 more posts to this list and I'll be a real guru! :) J. -- Scientists know what they are talking about. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: reliable editting of any PDF file
Micaela Gallerini: On 12-Feb-08, at 8:49 AM, michael wrote: I'm struggling to find software to edit a PDF file. [...] Lyx it's another substitute also it's not very easy. Lyx can only be used to create PDF files. To my knowledge, you cannot use it to edit existing files. J. -- I enjoy shopping, eating, sex and doing jigsaw puzzles of idealised landscapes. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problem changing display color in 'ls'
John Salmon: The real problem is my 72 year old eyes. I have a lot of trouble reading some of the pre-selected list colors in 'ls'. If you are using some terminal emulator in X, the easiest solution is to change the colors for this terminal. gnome-terminal, xfce4-terminal (which is what I use) and probably Konsole make this very easy. J. -- I spend money without thinking on products and clothes that I believe will enhance my social standing. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: consoliate mail archives with duplicate messages
Russell L. Harris: Over the years, every time I have reinstalled Debian, I have saved the mail files. Now I have a dozen or more files, with many duplicate messages. Mbox files? Is there an archiving utility or other reasonably simple approach whereby I can process these mail files to (1) considate them into a single file or archive and (2) eliminate duplicate messages? If you have mbox files, you could just `cat` them into one file, open it with mutt and then press 'D' followed '~=CR'. J. -- As a child I pulled the legs from a spider. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: windings and acroread
Ulrich Scholz: Dear all, I'm using Acrobat Reader 7.0 with Debian testing. On viewing a document, I get the error Cannot find or create the font 'Windings'. Some characters may not display or print correctly. It's probably Wingdings and you should get it when installing msttcorefonts which can be found in contrib. J. -- I often blame my shortcomings on my upbringing. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Sun Solaris 10 Manual. Is it done in LaTeX?
Amit Uttamchandani: I am curious, do you think this is done in LaTeX? -- snip http://dlc.sun.com/pdf/820-0176/820-0176.pdf It doesn't look like it is: $ pdfinfo 820-0176.pdf Title: Subject: Keywords: Author: Creator:XPP Producer: Acrobat Distiller Server 6.0.1 (Sparc Solaris, Built: 2003-11-03) CreationDate: Mon Jul 2 06:56:53 2007 ModDate:Mon Jul 2 06:56:53 2007 Tagged: no Pages: 56 Encrypted: no Page size: 538.81 x 646.572 pts File size: 757453 bytes Optimized: yes PDF version:1.3 AFAIK Distiller is a software to create PDFs from various formats. They probably wouldn't have used it if they already used LaTeX in the first place. Oh, and XPP might me XML Professional Publisher. J. -- I wish I had been aware enough to enjoy my time as a toddler. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: IceWeasel and IceDove or other OS?
Sunnz: The only Debian distro I have tried so far are Ubuntu's... however I am just wondering what are the state of IceWeasel and IceDove like? Are the source distributed in a portable form somewhere that can be downloaded and recompiled on other Unix like OS like other Linux distros, the BSD's, Solaris, etc?? Since Debian is not strictly tied to the linux kernel or a specific architecture, every package should be (generally) kept in a more or less portable state. But I don't have any specific information concerning IceWeasel/Icedove. I am aware that those other Unix like OS already has the Mozilla Firefox in their respective package manager... but I thought it would be good to let eveyone have a choice, You know that the reason for the rebranding is a trademark issue and nothing else? J. -- I am worried that my dreams pale in comparison beside TV docu-soaps. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Additional RAM brings Lenny to a slow-down
andy: My question is: are there any known limits on the amount of RAM Lenny can operate with? No, but I think you have hit a problem Linux has with certain mainboards that I have read about a few times already. I don't know the exact solution anymore but it involves telling the kernel how much memory you have. It's something like a 'mem=M' boot parameter. J. -- Television advertisements are the apothesis of twentieth century culture. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Additional RAM brings Lenny to a slow-down
andy: Jochen Schulz wrote: My question is: are there any known limits on the amount of RAM Lenny can operate with? No, but I think you have hit a problem Linux has with certain mainboards that I have read about a few times already. I don't know the exact solution anymore but it involves telling the kernel how much memory you have. It's something like a 'mem=M' boot parameter. Thanks for that clue Jochen. I am running the 2.6.22-3-686 kernel. Can anyone verify this and what the parameters are that need to be passed to the kernel? Is this likely to require my recompiling the kernel? I did the googling for you (linux slow boot ram upgrade kernel parameter): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/129172 :) J. -- Quite often I wonder why I am not more famous and/or more wealthy. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: apt-get update on ftp.uk.debian.org
Alle Meije Wink: Err ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org stable Release.gpg Could not connect data socket, connection timed out The mirror is either temporarily broken or down for good, Just use another one, there's nothing else you can do. J. -- I frequently find myself at the top of the stairs with absolutely nothing happening in my brain. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Newsreader question
John Hasler: Zoho writes: I follow debian-user by reading it from Pan (a newsgroup reader). I am wondering if anyone knows of software that I can run on my server that makes all my subscribed newsgroups available through a web interface? Install Leafnode and you will be able to read newsgroups from any of your machines using the newsreader of your choice. Which still leaves the question how to synchronize messages status (read/unread) across multiple computers. Some time ago I used slrnpull for offline reading and copied my .newsrc back and forth, but that was a real pain. And I am still searching for a decent console newsreader that supports UTF-8, so if anybody can recommend one... J. -- I often play sports / do exercise. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Tweaking /boot/grub/menu.lst to use 2GB RAM
andy: What is the best tweak to the /boot/grub/menu.lst file in order to enable my kernel to recognise and utilise the additional RAM? Looking through this file, the relevant section appears to be this commented part: ## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option ## e.g. memtest86=true ## memtest86=false # memtest86=true No, you have to look for the line beginning with '#kopt='. Edit, save, update-grub. J. -- I no longer believe in father christmas but have no trouble comprehending a nuclear apocalypse. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Additional RAM brings Lenny to a slow-down
andy: I added mem=2048M to the end of the line so that it now reads: # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet mem=2048M And ran /usr/sbin/update-grub and rebooted. It still took just under 10 minutes to get back to login at the gdm screen, so I am at a complete loss now. Try a few megs less, like mem=2040M. J. -- I often blame my shortcomings on my upbringing. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Newsreader question
Ron Johnson: On 02/29/08 14:43, Jochen Schulz wrote: Which still leaves the question how to synchronize messages status (read/unread) across multiple computers. Some time ago I used slrnpull for offline reading and copied my .newsrc back and forth, but that was a real pain. Well, X is network transparent, so why not just run the app on node_a, and display it on current_node? *Offline* reading. And I didn't talk about X applications either. :) J. -- We are lining up to see you fall flat on your face. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Newsreader question
Kevin Coyner: On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 03:40:25PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote.. And I am still searching for a decent console newsreader that supports UTF-8, so if anybody can recommend one... Not sure if it supports UTF-8 or not, but have a look at newsbeuter. Newsbeuter is an RSS reader. A newsreader is an NNTP (Usenet) client. J. -- I feel yawning hollowness whilst talking to people at parties. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Tweaking /boot/grub/menu.lst to use 2GB RAM
Jeff D: You really shouldn't have to add anything to see 2G of ram. If you aren't I suspect that there is something else going on with your system. It's a hardware and/or Linux bug. J. -- I no longer believe in father christmas but have no trouble comprehending a nuclear apocalypse. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Newsreader question
Ron Johnson: On 03/01/08 12:46, Jochen Schulz wrote: Ron Johnson: Well, X is network transparent, so why not just run the app on node_a, and display it on current_node? *Offline* reading. Irrelevant to the point at hand. No. Offline like using my laptop while commuting and the machine running slrn is back at home. And when I'm back at work, I'd like to ssh home and use the newsreader there. And I didn't talk about X applications either. :) What other kinds of interactive applications are there in Debian (or RH, OSX, FreeBSD, etc etc), besides console and X apps? Both of which are *designed* for remote access. Even Eeeevil Windows has free X servers I just wanted to say I am not interested in an X app, I prefer a console newsreader. J. -- I will not admit to failure even when I know I am terribly mistaken and have offended others. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: what is where in the iso-images
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: The Debian-Website is embarassing! That's not exactly the word I would have used, but I tend to agree. Where are the hints that if you want a debian with kde, you should download this file: [filename]? What gives you the impression that you need a specific image to install KDE? Debian doesn't have different flavours for each desktop environment like Ubuntu has. Where are the catalogues of the iso-images, so that i can find out: If I want to install KDE _LATER_ (of course i choosed the wrong file and have a working model of gnome now, and the local aptitude has no kde found) I need to download THIS CD-Image? Both Gnome and KDE should be on the first disk. I don't know about wine, but I bet it's in the first DVD. Why is there no possibility to search? Yes, that's been requested numerous times and nobody has done it already. I begin understanding what Windows Users say, Sentences starting like this won't improve the quality of the reponses you receive. :) Linux is really not easy to install if there are such difficulities in the very beginning. Do many Windows converts really start with questions like yours? If you don't know Linux, how do you know you want KDE, Gnome or anything else? If you don't know anything, you download the first image (in the worst case, you download them all), accept default installation parameters and you get a more or less beautiful Gnome desktop. That's quite a good start for a desktop system and Debian makes it easy to change the desktop environment later on. Why is the debian Homepage with so little useful information? Blobs over blobs of text fills your eyes, but where's the information?? This is ridiculous. There *is* a whole lot of information. The website's problem lies in its structure and presentation (and in some parts it's out-of-date), but it doesn't lack information. Can someone give me a hint? Yes, there is a German language mailing list as well (debian-user-german). :) By the way, just out of curiosity: what made you choose Debian instead of another distribution? Not that I think it's a bad choice (I started using Linux with Debian potato), but it's not the most obvious choice. J. -- I lust after strangers but only date people from the office. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: sensors
Jan Willem Stumpel: -12V:+1.70 V (min = -13.76 V, max = -14.91 V) V5SB:+5.05 V (min = +0.27 V, max = +3.44 V) VBat:+0.16 V (min = +0.59 V, max = +3.20 V) fan1: 0 RPM (min = 164 RPM, div = 128) CPU Fan:1854 RPM (min = -1 RPM, div = 4) fan3: 0 RPM (min = 131 RPM, div = 128) -- snip CPU Temp:+30.0°C (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C) sensor = diode temp3: -48.0°C (high = +80.0°C, hyst = +75.0°C) sensor = Are these values reasonable, or is there something wrong with the lm-sensors configuration? I am especially wondering about the values for -12V, VBat, V5SB (don't know what this is), and temp3. If they are far off, they are probably wrong. The problem is that the sensors report raw values that need to be computed in a special way to be interpreted correctly as voltages, temperature etc. You might want to google for working computations you can put into your sensors.conf. Additionally, your hardware may report to have some sensors which are unused and never report anything of importance. If temp3 always reports the same temperature, I guess this is such a fake sensor. Also, my box has 3 fans (PSU fan, CPU fan, case fan) and they all turn, but sensors says only one is turning. AFAIK: Whether the mainboard is able to report correct fan speed depends on how the fans are connected to it. If they are connected with two pins only, the board just doesn't know the fan speed and the sensors cannot report it. Three or four pins should work. But most mainboards don't have that many connectors with more than two pins (mine has two, one for the CPU fan and one for a northbridge fan to which I have connected the rear case fan). If the fans reported at 0RPM always run at full speed, they are probably connected with two pins only. J. -- Fashion is more important to me than war, famine, disease or art. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: After recent Exim4 setup on a new Debian 4.0r3 installed mail server I'm seeing this error; '/var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size' This logfile contains the info you need. If you don't understand it, post it here. J. -- I no longer believe in father christmas but have no trouble comprehending a nuclear apocalypse. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: X doesn't start after installing debian
Jan Brosius: I installed debian 4.0 r3 amd64 on my laptop an Acer Aspire 9920. The graphic card is Nvidia 8600M. The installation went well until after the reboot. Then the X server didn't start. I installed then with apt the debian package nvidia-glx. But when I then start X I get a blank screen and I don't even get a console input. Boot into single user mode and then examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log (you might want to save it to a USB thumb drive or something like that so that you can post relevant contents here). To do that, either select the appropriate entry from the grub menu (you should see it before the kernel gets loaded, the entry might be labeled as rescue or something to that effect) or, if you don't see such an entry, press 'e' when the menu appears and edit the line starting with kernel. Just append 1 to the line and press b to boot the kernel. You should then be able to log in on the console. J. -- I throw away plastics and think about the discoveries of future archeologists. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: X doesn't start after installing debian
Ron Johnson: On 03/13/08 01:23, Jan Brosius wrote: I there nothing I can do to install debian on my laptop. Sure. People do it all the time. People install Debian on his laptop all the time? :) Since you can't get in via a normal boot, I suggest that you use a LiveCD and disable [xgk]dm. Single user mode is an easier option, IMHO. At least if you know a little bit about the shell. [...] (Note that this is one of the reasons why I don't like display managers: just like with Eeeevil MSFT Windows, any X hiccup can prevent you from logging in and fixing your problem.) Huh? I've never seen that. And my X broke several times (Nvidia, too...). At least with gdm, if X doesn't come up after three attempts, it offers you to view the X log file and then drops you into console login. J. -- The news at ten makes me peevish but animal hospital makes me cry. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: X doesn't start after installing debian
Ron Johnson: On 03/13/08 15:02, Jochen Schulz wrote: At least with gdm, if X doesn't come up after three attempts, it offers you to view the X log file and then drops you into console login. Well that's interesting. Does it mean that you've got to reboot 3 times? (Not that that's bad, but just for clarity.) No, the computer boots into runlevel 2, starts gdm and if X fails, it tries to start X a second and a third time. J. -- At night I go to the kitchen; specifically, the knife drawer. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: DVD life-cycle
Nuno Magalhães: - rip a DVD into a suitable format: divX, whatever. I'd like to make sure the ripped version is an exact bit-by-bit copy of the original - for backup purposes mom! - but that's not reeelly necessary. As long as i have the video, audio and subtitle tracks well-defined and separated i'm happy. Exact copy: mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile mydvd.dump dvd://1 Of course, you may want to rip another title than dvd://1. lsdvd tells you which title is the longest one. For encoding to DivX, Xvid, H.264... you can use mencoder or ffmpeg. Which one is largely a amtter of personal taste, but there are some technical differences as well. Don't ask me which one, though. I am just getting started as well (and therefore like ffmpeg for its easier command line syntax). - then, i want to add those subtitles to the ripped bulk and burn it back. Look for devede from debian-multimedia.org. It's great. J. -- I like my Toyota RAV4 because of the commanding view of the traffic jams. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Apt Database Recovery
David Baron: I have been getting this when upgrading: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/apt-listchanges, line 227, in ? main() File /usr/bin/apt-listchanges, line 148, in main seen.close() File /usr/lib/python2.4/bsddb/__init__.py, line 237, in close v = self.db.close() bsddb.db.DBRunRecoveryError: (-30975, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') To be specific, this is apt-listchanges' database, not that of apt. Anyway, I had the same problem recently because of a disk full situation during an aptitude upgrade. A work-around (but not a clean solution) is to just (re)move the file /var/lib/apt/listchanges.db. apt-listchanges will silently recreate it. But you will probably receive changelogs and news that you have already seen before. J. -- I wish I had been aware enough to enjoy my time as a toddler. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Adobe acroread upgrade breaks links, and a FIX
Patrick Wiseman: rm /etc/alternatives/acroread ln -s /usr/lib/Adobe/Reader8/bin/acroread-en /etc/alternatives/acroread The proper way to handle the symlinks in /etc/alternatives is to use update-alternatives. J. -- Whenever I hear the word 'art' I reach for my visa card. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Addons and Iceweasel
Walt L. Williams: How can I get my favorite firefox addons to work with iceweasel The same way you do it with Firefox. Additionally, some addons are available as Debian packages and can be installed system-wide. J. -- I enjoy shopping, eating, sex and doing jigsaw puzzles of idealised landscapes. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: AT Package Requires Courier MTA
Andrei Popescu: at depends on mail-transport-agent provided by courier-mta. Just pick your favorite and install it along with at like: aptitude install at postfix Or to get a list of all packages providing mail-transport-agent: $ aptitude search ~Pmail-transport-agent p bongoproject-mta- Integrated mail and calendar p citadel-mta - complete and feature-rich p courier-mta - Courier mail server - ESMTP p esmtp-run - User configurable relay-only p exim- An obsolete MTA (Mail p exim4-daemon-heavy - Exim MTA (v4) daemon with p exim4-daemon-light - lightweight Exim MTA (v4) p masqmail- A mailer for hosts without p msmtp-mta - light SMTP client with support p nbsmtp - Simple MTA to send your mails p nullmailer - simple relay-only mail i postfix - High-performance mail p sendmail-bin- powerful, efficient, and p smail - Electronic mail transport p ssmtp - extremely simple MTA to get p xmail - advanced, fast and reliable (The list might look slightly different on your system.) J. -- I wish I could achieve a 'just stepped out of the salon' look more often. Or at least once. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: server security :: user accounts, ssh, passphrases, etc.
Russell L. Harris: Such remote maintenance of the server from a machine in the LAN becomes tedious unless there is on each machine an account with the same username, password, and passphrase. Not true. You can log into another machine with any username you want. Either you provide it on the command line ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), or you configure the username (and even the hostname) in your ~/.ssh/config. Using public-key authentication on the server (which is a good anyway) you don't even need to know the user's password on the remote system (once you have your public key in place on the remote machine). J. -- If I won the lottery I would keep all the money and wallpaper my house with it. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Wireless
Jonathan Smith: What is the best way to obtain wireless internet on Debian. I have version 4.0. Get supported hardware, install wireless-tools and configure the new ethernet device. In other words: be more specific. What's your current state concerning your problem, what did you try already / where did you look for information? J. -- No-one appears to be able to help me. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Partition not mounting
Frank: Recently my Debian Sid installation has stopped mounting second partition (/dev/hda3) on boot. As far as I know nothing has changed. What does 'mount /dev/hda3' print when executed as root? If it looks like an error, what are the last few lines from 'dmesg'? J. -- Thy lyrics in pop songs seem to describe my life uncannily accurately. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] reStructured Text real world usage
Amit Uttamchandani:
I usually have to type up the notes pretty quick in class and
sometimes with LaTex, typing up \item and \textit{}...takes
sometime...
Take a look at the vim-scripts package. It contains a quite impressive
LaTex mode. It takes some time to learn how to use it, though. But it
makes a lot of things much easier, faster and less error prone.
(Not that I think reStructured Text is a bad choice for a simple but
versatile markup language. I am using it myself for my website and
for Python documentation.)
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Re: Question about how aptitude search is used
Daniel Burrows: In the current CLI, aptitude search blah searches for packages whose name contains blah. In contrast, apt-cache search blah searches both package names and descriptions. Which is the reason why I am almost exclusively using apt-cache for searches (and probably the reason why I cannot remember aptitude's search options, even though they are great). What I'd really like to do is a full-text search with approximate matches on the whole package index that returns packages which might be relevant to blah, with an option to sort the results by various relevance metrics. I like the full-text search idea, but I dislike the idea of approximate matches (without it being a different command or a parameter). It makes search results less predictable and hurts cases where your search terms yield many results anyway. On the other hand I have to plug this: http://well-adjusted.de/mspace.py/ :) How many readers of this list are using aptitude search as a subcommand in a script? Will you be impacted by this change? Will anyone else be adversely impacted despite not using it in a script? I don't write many scripts for my boxes but I don't use Debian in a commercial environment where scripting comes in handy more often. So besides my comments above, I would not be impacted. Another aspect you should consider is speed. Aptitude is already quite slow and memory intensive. In my opinion, you should refrain from making it even more unsuitable for low-end devices than it already is. It's Debian's preferred package manager, after all. J. -- I am worried that my dreams pale in comparison beside TV docu-soaps. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: migrating to 64 bit...
michael: On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 08:12 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: when I migrated to amd64, I did nothing special for flash, and it seems to just work... (Now I'm thinking I need to go check). In theory, in sid, you use nsplugin-wrapper to allow 32bit flash to run on 64bit systems. what about running Java apps? I thought nsplugin-wrapper didn't support that? Java *applications* do work, only the browser plugin doesn't. But hey, recently I read that Sun might release a 64Bit plugin in 2009. :) J. -- I enjoy shopping, eating, sex and doing jigsaw puzzles of idealised landscapes. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: bash script question
Ken Irving:
If you want to remove the .svn/ directories and everything within them,
something
like this should work (remove the 'echo' if the output looks ok):
$ cd starting/directory
$ find . -type d -name .svn -exec echo rm -r {} \;
GNU find also accepts the parameter (or better: operation) -detele so
you don't have to start an rm process for each file or deal with xargs.
That means you can just do (untested):
$ find . -type d -name .svn -delete
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Re: dpkg unable to write to /var/lib/dpkg/status, /var partition full
Kyle Barbour: dpkg: failed to write status record about `vlc-nox' to `/var/lib/dpkg/status': No space left on device Run 'apt-get clean' and see how much free space you get. Apt stores downloaded debs locally and never deletes them until asked to do so. J. -- I have been manipulated and permanently distorted. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Webalizer Seizes to work after a cronjob addendum
John Marvin L. Magsino: it says /var/log/apache2/access.log.1 could not be read. i checked the /var/log/apache2/ and found out that only access.log exists. i guess it is not generating access.log.1 because of the crontab i made. Usually, the program logrotate moves access.log to access.log.1 and so on. Cron starts logrotate every day at about 06:25 (during the cron.daily run, see /etc/crontab). If your computer isn't running at that time, logrotate (and other daily jobs) will never be run. Solution: just install anacron. It makes sure all your daily cronjobs will be run, even if your comupter isn't powered on at the time at which the daily jobs usually run. J. -- Whenever I hear the word 'art' I reach for my visa card. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: wakeonlan
NN_il_Confusionario: I suspect that when the power supply is completely off (first case), then the harware (the nic) loses the status that makes it able to wake on lan (a manual boot, with the re-initialization of the nic by the bios would be necessary to re-enter the wake on lan status) You might have success putting 'NETDOWN=no' into the file /etc/default/halt (if it doesn't exist, just create it). I have read somewhere that it should make sure that the NIC isn't powered off on shutdown and /etc/init.d/halt appears to use this value. But it didn't help in my case. Wake on LAN only works after Windows has been booted. J. -- If I am asked 'How are you' more than a million times in my life I promise to explode. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Getting debian to ignore hdb on bootup
Jonathan Kaye: Thanks for the link. Just to be sure I understand, in my /boot/grub/menu.lst file I have this: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro I should change this line to kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro hdb=noprobe Is this the correct place for the boot option? Generally yes, but when using packaged kernels you should edit the line beginning with '# kopt' (yes, it's commented out) and run 'update-grub' afterwards. That way all boot entries are generated automatically with all the options you defined. J. -- If you do not move for long enough, you might see a rat. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: banshee transition - or worse?
Enno Weichert: First I supposed this is a transition problem with banshee and stayed calm but now I am not so sure anymore. And if it's not I'm not sure where the error may be found. Since this is lasting for a week now I just thought I might ask the public. What exactly is your question, then? I don't really see a problem in the output you posted. If you don't agree with apt-get about which packages should be removed, just install them at the same time you install the package you want (and don't already have). J. -- Quite often I wonder why I am not more famous and/or more wealthy. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: cli for iso files
Mark Grieveson: Hello. I'm looking for a command line iso cd-burner application to use instead of nautilus-cd-burner. I tried the package burn, but it does not work. What does not work? Maybe I can help. I am using it, too, and have looked at the (quite ugly) source a few times. I'm hoping to find one so that I can switch from using Gnome, to using a desktop that is less demanding of resources (hence, I'm also looking to use something other than gnome-baker or k3b). For the most part I use Ion3, but I find that I still need to use Gnome for the burning of CDs (specifically iso). /me would recommend to use his own little application, if he had maintained it during the last year... J. -- My drug of choice is self-pity. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mounting the minimum
gustavo halperin: I have some kernel-modules questions: After the linux SO was started, can I check which modules of /etc/modules was successfully mounted and aren't in use? First: you do not mount modules, you just load them. Then: yes, lsmod may help you with that. But there is no way to automatically detect which modules you are actually using. You have to know which module does what and then decide for yourself. Besides, unloading unnecessary modules doesn't gain you anything besides a more concise output of lsmod and maybe a few kilobytes of RAM. If you still want to do that, I guess you would be better off compiling your own kernel (preferebly the Debian way using kernel-package). Second, if I know the modules that aren't in use, Is OK if I remove them from /etc/modules and mount them after the boot time using some script or manually as root ? Removing them from /etc/modules just to load them manually afterwards doesn't make sense. but you are of course free to remove unwanted modules from this file and forget about them. Last question: there are any way to have a /etc/modules file corresponding to each kernel and her modules ? None that I know of. But (apart from a message at boot time) it does no harm having module names in there which are not part of your running kernel. J. -- I worry about people thinking I have lost direction. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: SSH doesn't work with RSA keys
Alejandro: People, I have generated the key pair RSA from my root linux's user and then I copy my RSA public key to /root/.ssh/authorized_keys from the linux ssh server. Good. After that I edit the sshd_config file and put permit rootlogin no Erm, to permit means to allow. You just locked out root (via ssh). Don't do that if you want to allow root to login via ssh. and the correct path to the authorized_keys file. But when I execute from the client ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] it doesn't enter and the password banner is showed. That's what ssh does for every user that is not allowed to login at all (if password login is enabled. Otherwise it will ask for a public key and neglect it). J. -- There is no justice in road accidents. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
