Re: network-manager applet notification bubble came from left side of gnome panel
Dne, 13. 01. 2010 07:12:58 je Umarzuki Mochlis napisal(a): This is just weird, screenshot of said situation can be found here >> http://img192.imageshack.us/i/screenshotdesktopd.png/ although the wallpaper is fedora's, the system is Debian 5. I know this is not critical but is this normal on Lenny? -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my I think this may happen when you play with the Gnome Panel a lot, adding and deleting applets. IIRC, there's a panel applet called Notification or Messages or something like that, and the location of the message bubbles depends on where you place this applet on your panel. Problem is, the applet is barely visible (or not at all, depends on your definition of "barely visible") when there's no message to show -- which means, most of the time. Therefore, you'll have to locate the applet on your panel and move it to a place of your liking; alternatively, you may try deleting it from Gconf Editor or manually from the disk (~/.gconf/apps/panel/applets/) and then re-adding it to the panel. -- HTH, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OOo 3 dependency hell in Lenny backports
Dne, 14. 01. 2010 12:00:06 je Paul Cartwright napisal(a): On Thu January 14 2010, Zhan wrote: > For me, I have set backports with the highest priorities, so anything at > backports.org with a higher version number will be automatically installed. I've never used backports. What packages are there that you use/need/want that is newer/better than what you get out of Lenny?? For me, it's the mldonkey package (the backports version has support for more p2p protocols). However, I think the backports maintainers don't recommend using backports as a general catch-all, but preferably for specific packages only. For example, I once installed a backports kernel (2.30 and something) just for the heck of it, and discovered that it didn't have support for the proprietary fglrx ATI driver, so it was of no use to me. Therefore, I wouldn't recommend pinning backports with a higher priority to anybody but those who know extremely well what they're doing. On the other hand, those who know extremely well what they're doing have no need of my recommendations or advice anyway ... ;) Just my 2 ¢. -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: deactivating network connexion using NetworkManager
Dne, 18. 01. 2010 11:23:07 je Bernard napisal(a): it seems likely that the Internet link must still be up, if it was not the case, how to explain that the re-activating process is so quick ? Well, I'm not familiar with your setup, but you may have a router or a dedicated machine somewhere that handles your link to the outer world (i.e. your ISP). In that case, disconnecting the ethernet cable from your box only takes care of your box, but the router/gateway remains exposed to the banes of Internet. HTH -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help needed to find why mouse not working
Dne, 18. 01. 2010 19:39:01 je Alan Chandler napisal(a): I would like to initially prove that when I move my hand on the touchpad it is sending information to the computer. How can I see that something is being sent (which devices should be the mouse?) By running xev from a terminal in X you should get some response when moving the mouse pointer across the xev window. That would be a start. -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Fixing time zone
Dne, 19. 01. 2010 17:52:56 je Rodolfo Medina napisal(a): 09:20:41 -0800 equals 17:20:41 +, not 18:21:18 +. The friend suggests that my time zone "+" should be "+0100" i.e. CET. Your UTC setting may be wrong; if you're using Gnome, try fiddling with the clock applet on your panel, there should be a UTC setting somewhere, try toggling it. hth -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?
Dne, 19. 12. 2010 05:31:37 je Stan Hoeppner napisal(a): What is the result of? dd if=/dev/zero of=/some/filesystem/test count=10 bs=8192 That will write an 810MB file of all zeros, and will give you a much better idea of the raw streaming write performance vs copying files from the old 160GB drive to the new one. I would think the result should be a bit higher than 60MB/s. Also, make sure you're using the deadline elevator instead of CFQ as it yields better performance, especially on SATA systems that don't support NCQ: $ echo deadline > /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler You may want to add this to your boot scripts to make it permanent. I roll this option as the default in my custom kernels. Thanks for the suggestion, Stan. Using dd I get a much higher figure, namely around 83 MB/s. Changing the elevator doesn't make a difference on my system though. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1292749820.598...@compax
Re: Important question.
Dne, 20. 12. 2010 16:26:51 je Gabriela Jiménez napisal(a): Dear Debian.Org Support Team: I am a new user of Linux O.S., and I need to use Linux to use RDP protocol to connect with a Server with Windows 2008 Server to use an business application. Debian have a RDP tool similar to Windows RDP ? Yes, it does. It comes with the default "desktop" install (Gnome) and it's called Terminal Server Client. It can be found in the Internet submenu of your Main menu. In addition, there may be alternative RDP clients in the huge Debian repositories. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1292860922.1087...@compax
Re: lenny squeeze etc etc
Dne, 21. 12. 2010 03:45:51 je Jerome BENOIT napisal(a): Hi , On 21/12/10 10:18, Jim Pazarena wrote: what possessed the debian people to tack names on to the OS? having actual version/release numbers seems so much clearer. And there does appear to BE release numbers. So why promote the goofy naming system which throws the novice? do you really think that novices are lost with `goofy name' (as you said) rather than version number ? Novices are generally lost with version numbers. Jerome Well, novices that can get confused by such simple stuff as version numbers, or goofy names, should seriously reconsider whether Debian is the right distribution for them IMHO. Or else get ready for an uphill struggle, where distro names will be the least of their problems. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1292923666.1802...@compax
Re: lenny squeeze etc etc
Dne, 22. 12. 2010 17:30:33 je John Hasler napisal(a): Petrus Validus writes: > The Toy Story movies are good, I would recommend them. I have not seen a movie in more than twenty years and probably never will see one again. I find the entire entertainment industry and everyone associated with it faintly disgusting, and, in any case, like popular music, movies are 99% boring crap. The ocassional gem (usually a rhinestone) is not worth sorting through the rest. -- John Hasler +1 The only movies I can make myself watch at all are pre-1960, particularly the French and Italian movies of the era. Also, some older Russian stuff is not bad. And, of the more recent stuff, Almodovar. I could never stand Hollywood. Hearing Hollywood stuff being called "movies" makes me cringe. They are capital investments, not works of cineastic art. It's like comparing a telephone book to a Dostoevsky's novel just because, technically, they're both "books". Just my 2¢. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293093927.716...@compax
Re: Network-manager applet with multiple users
Dne, 22. 12. 2010 20:55:14 je Arthur Machlas napisal(a): It seems that whomever logs in first on the gnome-desktop, user1, user2 or user3 has exclusive control of network manager, even though I'd like all three to be able to control it. This must be on Squeeze, right? Because on my Lenny systems, all users have control. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293093996.716...@compax
Re: Network-manager applet with multiple users
Dne, 23. 12. 2010 17:10:27 je Arthur Machlas napisal(a): So, just to be clear, if you log in to your gnome desktop as user 1, then switch users, not logging out the first one, user2 has the nm-applet in their panel and can change networks, and when you switch back to user 1, they still have the applet and are now connected to the new network? Yes. At least with unprotected networks. I have no possibility to test it with WEP/WPA encryption though. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293133325.716...@compax
Re: Monitor question
Dne, 28. 12. 2010 08:24:22 je George napisal(a): If you do your work in text mode, why do you want a widescreen monitor? Widescreen is good for films but horrible when it comes to reading, which is what you normally use your computer for. It's also horrible for web browsing, and for many other tasks. It actually only has two uses I can think of: widescreen movies and side-by-side document viewing. Given that movies are best viewed on large TV sets anyway, the usefulness of widescreen computer monitors is further reduced to just side-by-side document viewing. Arguably, even for that task, dual-head setups are better. Why is it then that the widescreen standard has taken over the computer market so preponderously? Well, forcing the widescreen format allows the manufacturers to charge us the *same* amount of money for a *reduced* screen real estate. It's all about marketing (also called indoctrination, or brainwashing): making buyers gladly accept less bang for the buck. Sadly, as many times before, we, the consumers, have allowed them to force this new obnoxiousness upon us without moving a finger. Let me give examples which will hopefully corroborate my assertions (the numbers given are however just illustrations and far from accurate). The widescreen fad allows a vendor to make a LCD panel having the overall area of a 15" classic panel (roughly), and market it as a 19" monitor. To get (roughly) the same vertical size as with a classic 32" TV, you now have to buy a 42" widescreen TV set. Of course, a 42" widescreen TV is much wider than a classic 32", no arguing with that: it may also be seen as a "widened" 32" TV, a 32" TV expanded with two additional lateral "bands". Incidentally, a figure of 42 is also a lot more impressive (and easier to market) than a humble 32. Maximum laptop width is limited -- by ergonomic and other factors -- roughly to ca. 40 cm. Well, with the widescreen format, that limitation allows a far smaller screen real estate than classic 4:3 screens did. In other words, the usefulness of laptops for serious display-dependent work has arguably *decreased* over the last decade or so. This trend is further enhanced with laptops progressively becoming more convenient, and more of a "toy" than a "work tool". About a decade ago, the absolute minimum resolution for LCD laptop screens was 1024x768. Finding 800x600 laptops was becoming increasingly difficult, and the standard was moving toward higher resolutions, such as 1600x1200 etc. A decade later, additionally spurred by the netbook fad, the absolute minimum is again set back to around 1024x600 or less, with entry-level laptops generally having a meagre 1360x768 resolution. Compare these numbers to, say, CPU speeds or hard drive capacities over the same period, and tell me the LCD marketing guys aren't sheer geniuses! Of course, this is strictly my personal, and quite biased, point of view. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293547219.586...@compax
Re: o/t ipod
Dne, 27. 12. 2010 18:43:06 je Camaleón napisal(a): I still fail to see what people find exciting in Apple devices. Yes, they look nice but they're also even more closed than any MS product >:-) It must be their price. In our profit-centered culture, anything overly expensive seems to instantly achieve a magical aura and a high perceived value, be it a rolex, a ferrari, or a high-maintenance lady. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293550036.586...@compax
Re: E-business and Linux
Dne, 28. 12. 2010 09:13:14 je Yuwen Dai napisal(a): Dear all, I just can not completely abandon Windows, for all the E-business related software are for Windows or IE in my country, for example, the security plug-ins released by banks in China. I don't understand why they don't develop plug-ins for Linux and Firefox. I'm just curious, how is your situation? Hasn't that Chinese linux distribution -- Red Flag Linux or what it's called -- changed anything? I think that China is just too huge not to abandon proprietary software (be it legal or pirated) eventually. I'm actually hoping that China and Russia (and perhaps India) may soon become the driving forces of worldwide Linux domination ;) -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293550468.586...@compax
Re: Monitor question
Dne, 28. 12. 2010 15:49:26 je Paul Cartwright napisal(a): On 12/28/2010 09:40 AM, Klistvud wrote: > > It's also horrible for web browsing, and for many other tasks. It > actually only has two uses I can think of: widescreen movies and > side-by-side document viewing. Given that movies are best viewed on > large TV sets anyway, the usefulness of widescreen computer monitors is > further reduced to just side-by-side document viewing. Arguably, even > for that task, dual-head setups are better. so ( I'm REALLY late into this thread) what you are saying is, I should opt for dual-monitors rather than1 LARGER monitor? I had never even considered dual monitors for HOME use, I always thought it was a work thingie.. Right now I have a 20" flat panel, but I ALSO still have my "old" 17" flat panel that I use for my server.. I could I suspect, add IT to my desktop & make it dual monitors.. what would I need, another video card the same as my current NVidia card, or would it matter? I was only making a point; I have no direct experience with dual-head setups. That said, I've seen them used in "home" environments too. I guess it's your call really. As one of the posters said, given a big enough monitor (> 30"), a single monitor can competently replace a dual-head setup. Not in all use cases though. Dual-head setups allow you to have, say, a VT on one monitor and a desktop environment on the other, or a desktop on one monitor and a full-screen video (or OpenGL game) on the other -- things not possible with a single monitor, AFAIK. On the other hand, dual-head setups do (generally) require an additional video card and they are (generally again) more complex and harder to set up. You have to consider what you'll be using your setup for; persaonally, I'd be more than happy with, say, a single monitor, as long as it was at least > 28". Currently I'm on a 15" laptop LCD and am not happy with it. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293559888.586...@compax
Re: Installed Debian today.
Dne, 28. 12. 2010 21:40:47 je Narendra Sisodiya napisal(a): After 2.5 year with GNU/Linux , I finally migrated to best Distro ie Debian, I will be sending improvement and my problems in blog format with my new journey with Debian. Also I have given my life time commitment to Debian project. Thanks http://blog.narendrasisodiya.com/2010/12/for-indian-debian-lovers-like-me-please.html -- ┌─┐ │Narendra Sisodiya │http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘ Welcome to the club. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293571703.2412...@compax
Re: dumb question about blu ray drive configuration and playingblu ray movies etc....
Dne, 29. 12. 2010 16:05:01 je teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net napisal(a): I don't mean to sound dogmatic, But when will the Multi Billion dollar corporations understand that the harder they go DRM the more they entice people to break it Nowadays they have to worry about not only people who wish to pirate their media taking a crack at their stuff You have people who just wanna use what they rightfully paid for in their own way, people whom they've just plain ticked off, or people who just want to break/meet the challenge. The tighter you squeeze the more that falls through your fingures... You forgot to mention the people who got so outraged that they pledged not to buy any DRM-ed media again. Ever. And I've been an extremely avid music consumer in my time. If they continue to pull the string, I may be forced to boycott cinemas and live concerts as well. It will hurt me more than them, I know, but it will also be very liberating. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293649759.1869...@compax
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
Dne, 29. 12. 2010 20:29:38 je Camaleón napisal(a): On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 10:12:45 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > On Wed December 29 2010 01:43:09 Camaleón wrote: >> On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 01:37:48 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: >> > The question is not whether the problem can be solved. >> >> Then what do you want? Just complain? > > I STARTED this thread by posting a solution[1]. And I asked if there is > a better solution. Sir, please, again... *stop* your foolish monologue. And stop *lying* about my postings >:-/ Greetings, -- Camaleón I agree, Camaleón. Sir, Camaleón has gone out of her way to help you, although it was in no way her "duty" to do so. It's not that we get paid to help you or anything. This is just a volunteer mailing list where users try to help each other to the best of their abilities. A certain level of mutual respect, even courtesy, is expected. P.S. In almost 2 years that I'm subscribed to this list, Camaleón was arguably one of the most helpful members. Judging from her answers, she appears to be a very competent system administrator. If I can somewhat understand your frustration, there's nevertheless no reason to take it out on Camaleón. With some patience, other users will hopefully contribute answers more to your liking. I wish I could. Wish you all the best. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293653766.1869...@compax
Re: Netgear WG111 USB wifi adapter works with squeeze / gnome
Dne, 30. 12. 2010 10:47:16 je Camaleón napisal(a): On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 20:10:07 -0800, Peter Tenenbaum wrote: > I recently had to add wifi to my squeeze / gnome desktop. Based on some > reviews I bought a Netgear WG111 USB wifi adapter, and I found that when > I plugged it into a USB port on my desktop it worked instantly -- no > configuration or package installation necessary. > > Is there a repository where these sorts of success stories are tracked? Debian has a wiki, maybe you can get an account to edit/add this useful data: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USBDevices Also, mentioning it here is a good way to broadcast the good news ;-) You should probably add your lsusb output too. That's because not all WG111 are created equal: IIRC, the WG111 has switched chipsets -- and consequently, drivers -- when going from .v2 to .v3. A good resource on Linux-compatible wireless adapters is the Backtrack website http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ because they also gather information on the "monitor" mode of various cards. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293706230.1006...@compax
Re: How to upgrade chain-booted grub-pc?
Dne, 30. 12. 2010 05:12:10 je Phil Requirements napisal(a): On 2010-12-29 12:28:07 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > A dist-upgrade to Squeeze results in a chain boot > comprising both grub1 (grub-pc) and grub2. ^^^ > Today's grub-pc update now wants to know where to > automatically install, presumably because it does > not recognize grub2's chain-boot setup. > > Unfortunately, I also don't know the details of > what grub2 did to make the chain boot, so I don't > know what to tell grub1 (grub-pc) when it asks: > > "The grub-pc package is being upgraded. This menu > allows you to select which devices you'd like > grub-install to be automatically run for, if any." > > Does anyone have any solid recommendations (no > wild guesses please) as to how to determine the > best response? Solid recommendations will be particularly hard to get. Grub-PC (or Grub2, whatever you may call it) is still more or less in the "black magic" development phase. As powerful and robust as it is, I've never yet managed to make it work out-of-the-box. Well, almost never. Virtually every time I've installed it on pre-existing systems with pre-existing grub installations, it needed additional fine tuning (which is done through its /etc/grub.d/ scripts, and NOT by editing its /boot/grub/grub.cfg file). Once fine-tuned though, it's a pretty flexible boot loader, capable of booting live CD images, such as live Ubuntu CDs. My 2¢. This is not advice for your problem, I just wanted to point out something I noticed. Your description of the two grubs conflicts with my understanding of them. As far as I know, the following is true: grub1 = grub-legacy grub2 = grub-pc So, in my understanding grub1 != grub-pc. That alone may give you a way to understand what grub-pc is asking you. Hope this helps, Phil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101230041210.gb4...@kasploosh.net -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293707073.1006...@compax
Re: Monitor question
Dne, 30. 12. 2010 06:58:42 je Stan Hoeppner napisal(a): Johan Kullstam put forth on 12/29/2010 11:25 PM: > Good for you. My gripe is that one can no longer choose. It's > shortscreen or nothing. > > I had an old thinkpad t42 with a 14" 1440x1050 and it rocked. It > weighed only 4.5 lbs even with cd drive. For me, it was an optimal size > and weight. The current offerings are all inferior - they are heavier, > have less vertical screen dimension and worse resolution. You're a member of a super-minority Johan. The majority of the marketplace wants wide screen, which is why you're finding little or nothing else but widescreen. Even the little toy netbook computers all have widescreen LCDs. That's very telling about the market. -- Stan I would go with George Carlin here: When you see how stupid an average consumer is, consider that half of them are even more stupid than that. The majority of the marketplace doesn't "want" widescreen any more that it "wants" Digital Rights Management -- and yet it gets both rammed down its throat (or, sometimes, up some other orifice). Why is that? It's because they're too stupid (or careless) to really know what they want. Vendors, on the other hand, know *extremely* well what they want (to cut costs, increase production volume, increase market share etc.). It's not hard to imagine what happens when the twain -- an extremely cunning and an extremely careless subject -- meet: it happens on a daily basis, and it's called "the marketplace". The place you go to when you want to get royally scr***d. In an ideal world, you could counter that simply by being a well informed consumer instead of a careless one. In the real world, however, everything has already been decided in advance: usually, by the vendors and by the most careless and most uninformed -- the majority. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293709980.1006...@compax
Re: Broadband Configuration
Dne, 30. 12. 2010 14:03:32 je Kousik Maiti napisal(a): Hi list, I try to configure USB broadband on Debian Lenny. And when I run #wvdialconf its complaining like this Editing `/etc/wvdial.conf'. Scanning your serial ports for a modem. Modem Port Scan<*1>: S0 S1 S2 S3 Sorry, no modem was detected! Is it in use by another program? Did you configure it properly with setserial? Please read the FAQ at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/?WvDial If you still have problems, send mail to . Can anybody help? Thanks in advance. I think that an USB modem won't show up as a serial port. Check out your /dev subtree for the actual name of your modem, and then put that into the appropriate field of your application. Plugging and unplugging the USB modem may help you in locating the actual device name used in /dev. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293716507.1006...@compax
Re: Netgear WG111 USB wifi adapter works with squeeze / gnome
Dne, 30. 12. 2010 17:53:28 je Peter Tenenbaum napisal(a): Klistvud -- Here is the output of lsusb: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0846:4260 NetGear, Inc. WG111v3 54 Mbps Wireless [realtek RTL8187B] So the chipset happens to be one of the ones which is well-supported, but I had no way to know this prior to purchase (and believe me, I tried to find out). Fortunately a user posted a review to Amazon saying that it worked for him on his linux desktop. -PT Had you bothered to ask in advance on this list -- and had I seen your post -- I could have told you that I have a v3 card and that the v3 model works in Squeeze. I could have told you also that it does *not* work in stock Lenny (although it does in newer, backported Lenny kernels). I think that the v2 model works in stock Lenny, but have no means of checking that. Anyhow, all's well that ends well. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293729761.1006...@compax
Re: [OT] Re: microsoft.com -> NetBSD
Dne, 31. 12. 2010 05:45:58 je Nate Bargmann napisal(a): * On 2010 30 Dec 12:50 -0600, Brad Alexander wrote: > > I can only say that I love BSD licenses. I know many people can be anger > > by this but I find that BSD licences are the best exponent for the true > > and unconditional user freedom. > > I agree with Camaleón. Not to end 2010 with a flame war, but this is > the one thing that irritates me most about the FSF. They advocate free > software, which is a laudable goal, but they seem to only acknowledge > it *if* you conform to their definition of free. By definition, if a > user chooses to, they should be *free* to use commercial software and > be as equally accepted as someone who opts not to have any binary > blobs on their system. In their own way, Stallman and the FSF are > trying to accomplish lock-in as much as the vendors... Sorry, but as a contributor to a small Free Software project licensed under GPL and LGPL, I respectfully disagree. Much has been provided to me because of the GPL and I believe that my contributions warrant the same opportunity by others. I do not want any of my contributions taken proprietary by *any* entity for *any* reason. I also do not see the GPL as lock-in, rather as lock-out. Couldn't agree more. It's a war. We really shouldn't fool ourselves about that. Countering the immense power of proprietary software companies with non-viral free licenses is like fighting against tanks with just bare hands. Corporations -- software ones included -- are *not* like us. They may contain some "decent people" but they are not themselves "decent people" like we are, they are soulless entities. We shouldn't make the mistake of personifying them, that is, of projecting our inner traits of honesty, decency, humanity, honor, or morality onto them: they have none of those. They just have *agendas*. GPL gives developers of free software at least half a chance. It saddens me to see how many people fail, or refuse, to see that. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293792231.692...@compax
Re: making iso image with gnome?
Dne, 31. 12. 2010 10:33:09 je Jude DaShiell napisal(a): What program by default is used along alongside brasero in gnome to make an iso image from a directory or directory tree's contents? Well, I wouldn't know about "default" but I successfully use GnomeBaker. At least one of the two uses mkisofs as backend, if I'm not mistaken, so you may try that if you're a CLI guy. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293792621.692...@compax
Re: pci express wireless card doesn't show up in lspci
Dne, 31. 12. 2010 20:19:14 je bri...@aracnet.com napisal(a): Hi all, the card is an Intel 3945ABG. not seeing it in the lspci listing. the PCI express port IS showing up. The card could be bad, but it seems extremely unlikely as it's brand new. MB is an Intel Atom D945GSEJT. I haven't done anything with PCI express card before, just want to make sure that I'm not missing anything obvious. I can install the iwl3945 driver, but it doesn't say anything about detecting a card, and the card still doesn't show up even with the driver installed. I'm very suspicious that I've got something disabled somewhere... Thanks Brian BIOS? -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293825433.1409...@compax
Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware
Dne, 31. 12. 2010 21:08:27 je Doug napisal(a): On 12/31/2010 12:50 PM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:03:24 -0500 (EST) Stephen Powell wrote: Manufacturers are not doing this because the consumer wants it. They are doing it to cut costs. /snip/ they get away with it because most people run windows, the mfr provides the driver, and when it breaks, people expect it because it's windows. /snip/ You will always be in trouble with hardware under Linux because of the lack of mfr's drivers, and when they do provide drivers they are generally binary objects, e.g. NVIDIA. It's very frustrating, so I for one appreciate your rant :-) Brian Why does it bother you that the driver is a binary? Are you qualified to modify it if you had the source code? Certainly 99% of us are not, nor would we want to if we could. In the immortal words of Anne Landers, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" Precisely the problem. I had this problem with at least two pieces of hardware: - a Belkin PCMCIA wireless card that lost any support about 2 years after I purchased it. No Windows after XP support it. As opposed to that, I can easily make it work in Debian via ndiswrapper. Now just imagine if that driver wasn't binary: Linux volunteers would probably support it for another 10-20 years. - the in-built Broadcom wireless card in my laptop. Has been having problems from the very beginning. Uses a binary blob. In my experience, if there was no binary blob, and the development was handed over to the Linux community, the card would probably work without a hitch. Just my 2¢. YMMV I just don't TRUST proprietary developers. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293830081.1409...@compax
Re: Spontaneously aborting X startup during Linux boot process
Dne, 01. 01. 2011 12:36:14 je Lisi napisal(a): On Sunday 19 December 2010 23:18:19 Bob Proulx wrote: > I wouldn't transition to > single user mode from multiuser mode directly myself. I have never had any problems with init 1, wherever I used it from, other than that KDE doesn't shut down very cleanly in the sense that it does not save everything I am working on.Ditto init 0 and init 6. Lisi I've seen init 1 recommended as "the" procedure to use when doing maintenance tasks that can't be done with X running. On my two Gnome systems it "shuts down" the desktop environment quite cleanly, as far as I can tell. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1293882658.3253...@compax
Re: grub
Dne, 04. 01. 2011 13:12:52 je John Lindsay napisal(a): Recently I had to do a reboot. I get the following 'grub' screen titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-686 root(hd0,0) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686 titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-686 (single-user mode) root(hd0,0) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro single initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686 titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-686 root(hd0,0) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686 titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-1-686 (single-user mode) root(hd0,0) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-1-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro single initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-1-686 titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.24-1-686 root(hd0,0) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-1-686 titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.24-1-686 (single-user mode) root(hd0,0) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-1-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro single initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-1-686 If I allow it to select default the computer seems to go into a loop. If I select any of the alternate except the very last option it seems to loop ie continuous reboot. Something has gone wrong but I don't know what -- if I put the # sign in front of all lines except the last set will that then become default and boot only kernel 2.6.24-1-686(single user mode)? I really don't want to play with grub but if I have a long power outage and the computer shuts down and I'm not around the darn thing will just reboot continuously and my wife who also uses this computer will have words to say about my choice of OS's. John Grub has a command for setting the default stanza to boot (please google for that; it also may be dependent upon the version of Grub you're using). You just have to insert that command into your menu.lst (or grub.cfg -- again depending upon the version of Grub you're using). That said, however, the thing to do is track down why all the other entries are broken, what is the reason for the continuous loops, and what update (or other cause) brought it about. Installed new kernel recently? Updated the initrd? Modified partitions? Updated Grub? Changed Xorg.conf and/or installed new video driver? It could be anything of these, or something completely different... -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294149131.583...@compax
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
Dne, 05. 01. 2011 15:28:47 je Lisi napisal(a): On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:03:59 Camaleón wrote: > At least you should have learned one lesson: _never trust_ what your > users say and tell them to _prove_ their wording with facts (that is, by > checking with her that the data was properly backed up and can be > restored from the aforementioned "unexistent" copy) >;-) I did look at the pen drive to make sure that the copies were there and retrievable. But I didn't know enough about her data to know that the most recent 'photos were missing. It is not certain that they could have been rescued at that point even if I had known! If it weren't for the fact that she is going around telling very hurtful untruths about me, I would be the gainer. She was hard work, demanding and not very profitable! But sometimes they _know_ that they haven't got copies, but are unwilling to have them. It means buying something to put them on. Lisi Seems I'm one of the few who sincerely think that not all users should, or even could, be required to know the inner workings of each and every technology they use. In real life, people are forced (by their job or whatever) to use many modern technologies, and in our technology-based development model, this trend is bound to increase. Should every driver necessarily know ALL the fluid circuits of a vehicle, and their check/refill intervals? I honestly don't -- do you? Of course I know the obvious -- the fuel, the cooling fluid, the brake fluid -- but beyond that, everything becomes vague, blurred and, well, "fluid". The cars should be (and, after decades of development, finally are) projected such that without all the fluids in place they simply won't start, while notifying the driver with an appropriate flashing indicator on the dashboard. Much the same should go for computers -- even more so, since in computers, automating tasks is not just a collateral object, but the primary one. An operating system should have reliable backup policies built-in; for example, it should backup the entire /home subtree to rewritable DVDs, or a network share, on a weekly basis. When installing the system, the user should be asked where to and how often the backups should be made, just as (s)he is asked for the time zone and the language to be used. Without this info, the installation should simply refuse to go on. Computers -- just as cars -- are not aficionado, niche technology anymore, and we should stop treating them as such: a computer operating system should be as resilient, self-sufficient and user-independent as humanly possible. That doesn't mean, of course, that knowing the inner workings of our technologies should be obfuscated or even actively prevented (as seems, sadly, to be the trend in both Mac OS and Windows). However, it should be left to individual preferences, not forced upon us one way or the other. I, for one, enjoy fiddling with computers; but not nearly as much as I despise anything that has to do with inner combustion engines ... -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294249838.1996...@compax
Re: google's ads
Dne, 05. 01. 2011 13:40:22 je steef napisal(a): dear list, how do i get rid of google's by me unwanted extra's: ads reg., steef There are many ways you could go. Using one of the many ad blocker programs, or FireFox plugins... Using OpenDNS and their filtering capabilities... (my approach; combined with: Filtering URLs at the Squid level (the squid cache being also used to speed-up my Internet) ...and many more -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294250099.1996...@compax
Re: firewall package for laptop wi-fi client
Dne, 07. 01. 2011 19:53:44 je Andrei Popescu napisal(a): For people really concerned with their security in public wifi spots, perhaps the best I can recommend is: just run off of a live CD. It's really a great security policy once you get used to it being somewhat slower; if you can get suspend-to-RAM working, you needn't even worry about longish boot times (which are fairly short with the recent Ubuntus anyway). Of course, even with a live CD you should be careful with sensitive data such as e-mail accounts, online passwords and all the other stuff. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294439328.387...@compax
Re: Input gets slow after I opened Iceweasel for a long time
Dne, 08. 01. 2011 06:50:44 je Thomas Yao napisal(a): Hi all, I'm using Debian Squeeze(amd64) on my PC, using KDE and SCIM input method. The problem I found recently is that after I opened Iceweasel for a long time, the input gets really slow. It tooks Iceweasel almost 5 seconds to display all the characters I typed(say around 20 characters). Any guy here met the same problem, any help? Thank you very much :) Lenny user here. Delighted to see that Iceweasel keeps up to its reputation even in squeeze... Do check your memory footprint; in lenny, when the above symptoms occur, it's usually due to the xulrunner process going nuts and gulping all my physical RAM + swap. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294477834.387...@compax
Re: Debian or Mint for Games?
Dne, 08. 01. 2011 09:44:25 je teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net napisal(a): Hi: Last night at the 2600 group I managed to score a deal on some basic hardware, though not all that impressive, a major leap forward for my desktop. Anyways; I have been a Debian fan for quite awhile but I do believe there are different distros for different things. My roomate has been raving about LinuxMint 10 and since I may be reinstalling my OS I was giving it consideration. I am thinking of switching to a 64bit OS only because I may soon upgrade over the 4GB RAM cap on 32bits. I also use the system for basic all around system and run an sshd server. So question being is there really any advantages to Mint in the gaming arena over the capabilities of Debian itself? Really logic tells me GNU is GNU, and a personally configured system is always better, but not knowing my way around the Linux gaming world esp. Graphics support maybe Mint would offer less of an upstream battle... Thoughts?? TeddyB In my experience, your question boils down to the graphics infrastructure of your rig. Sound and other paraphernalia (mice, joysticks etc.) can be said to work out-of-the-box on virtually any modern distro. Therefore, your decisive step will be to determine which graphics card you have and which driver(s) it can use. The Frames Per Second you'll be able to achieve depend entirely on that. Some recent video drivers will require a fairly recent kernel, which may be a problem for lenny, but not that much of a problem in squeeze. Some will only have 2D hardware acceleration. I've personally been able to install fast-paced first-person-shooters both from the Debian repositories and from downloaded installers, but was forced in both cases to use the proprietary ATI video driver (fglrx) to make them work. There is a very good gaming DVD made by Sven-Hendrik Haase you can download from http://live.linux-gamers.net/?s=download and burn it. It's an Arch-linux-based live distro and it can give you, in advance and without needing to install anything, a rough overview of what you can expect from linux in the gaming department and what potential issues you may run into. I've personally tried it and can recommend it whole-heartedly. Other links you may want to check out: http://supergamer.org/ http://maketecheasier.com/linux-gaming-with-sabayon-gaming-edition/2010/02/18 and, for a collection of non-linux (emulated) games: http://maketecheasier.com/free-mega-games-pack-for-linux/2010/07/14 -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294479739.387...@compax
Re: Squeeze. How to set video res to 1366x768 in pure console?
Dne, 09. 01. 2011 14:22:27 je Sven Joachim napisal(a): On 2011-01-09 14:02 +0100, Mark Goldshtein wrote: > On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: >> On 2011-01-09 12:50 +0100, Mark Goldshtein wrote: >> >>> Subj. >>> Googling points me to 915_resolution, which is about Intel video. My >>> video is NVIDIA. Please, help to set up native laptop's resolution for >>> console. >> >> Try uvesafb (you need to install v86d for that to work), e.g. like this: >> >> # modprobe uvesafb mode_option=1366x768-32 Have you tried this yet? >> If that does not work you have to ditch the proprietary driver and >> switch to nouveau for a nice console. > > Please correct me, if I am wrong but nvidia/nouveau drivers are for > X.org. Nouveau is split into two parts, a kernel module (nouveau.ko) and an X video driver (nouveau_drv.so). The kernel module includes a framebuffer driver that automatically uses the laptop's native resolution, see http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting. > The question is how to set up native laptop's 1366x768 in pure > console, without X, or for example, if i switch with Ctrl+Alt+F1,...6 > keys. Well, the nouveau framebuffer driver is the best for that, but it is not compatible with the NVidia 3D blob. That's why I suggested uvesafb. Sven If I understand the original question correctly, you're looking for the vga= kernel option (to be added to your kernel line in grub.cfg or menu.lst). -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294584774.387...@compax
Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?
Dne, 09. 01. 2011 12:58:22 je Dotan Cohen napisal(a): Thanks, Klistvud. I just purchased a WD10EARS (1 TB drive) and I noticed that my writes are _slow_. I think that it may be a KDE issue, there even is an open KDE bug that copy/paste is vry slow. But even copying via cp I feel that it's not moving, I need to benchmark the drive. Your post gives me some other things to check and configure. Thank you! Glad to be of help. Please do read Stan Hoeppner's suggestion in this thread on using the dd command as a more reliable benchmark! -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294585698.387...@compax
Re: Squeeze. How to set video res to 1366x768 in pure console?
Dne, 09. 01. 2011 15:56:14 je Sven Joachim napisal(a): On 2011-01-09 15:52 +0100, Klistvud wrote: > If I understand the original question correctly, you're looking for the > vga= kernel option (to be added to your kernel line in grub.cfg or > menu.lst). I'm not looking for anything, Mark is. I know that (although I may have expressed myself rather ambiguously). More importantly, the standard vesafb driver which handles the vga= option does not deal with modern wide screens. Sven Good to know. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294586095.387...@compax
Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?
Dne, 09. 01. 2011 17:35:07 je Jochen Schulz napisal(a): Klistvud: > > Before partitioning and formatting: > > obelix# hdparm -tT /dev/sda … > After partitioning the drive, aligned on modulo 8 sector boundaries: > > obelix:# hdparm -tT /dev/sda Your test is unsuitable to detect any alignment-related performance issues. J. -- No-one appears to be able to help me. [Agree] [Disagree] <http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html> Care to elaborate why? I guess many people will be purchasing these hard drives in the near future, so any input is welcome. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294595514.387...@compax
Re: Squeeze: Gnome icons missing
Dne, 11. 01. 2011 20:49:31 je Zeissmann napisal(a): > I turn them on by running gconf2 or the configuration editor and > navigating to Desktop -> Gnome - Interface and checking > "buttons_have_icons" and "menus_have_icons". I don't quite see how it's done. I looked into the Gnome online manual and it says something about turning the icons on under Appearance -> Interface preferences. The thing is I don't have this tab under Appearance -- on neither computer. So maybe I'm missing some package? Your Gnome is probably not the same version number as the online manual refers to. Gnome changes all the time. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294777803.1868...@compax
Re: Squeeze. How to set video res to 1366x768 in pure console?
Dne, 11. 01. 2011 22:13:58 je Mark Goldshtein napisal(a): One thing to mention, I am running # update-grub2 instead of update-grub. Is it wrong? AFAIR I have installed GRUB2 during Squeeze installation process. Check out where update-grub2 points to -- it's probably a shell script that just calls update-grub anyway. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294781698.1868...@compax
Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?
Dne, 12. 01. 2011 04:46:42 je Stefan Monnier napisal(a): > I'm down on these drives due to the maniacal 8 second head park > interval, which likely does more mechanical damage than it saves power > in dollar terms. There is simply no concrete evidence to back this urban legend. In the WD20EARS I purchased this was in no way just a legend -- be it urban or rural or otherwise. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294826470.720...@compax
Re: Please ignore this test.
Dne, 12. 01. 2011 14:07:53 je Kleene, Nancy (kleenenl) napisal(a): Please ignore this test. Ignoring. Please ignore this reply. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294847072.720...@compax
Re: Please ignore this test.
Dne, 12. 01. 2011 17:23:27 je François TOURDE napisal(a): Le 14986ième jour après Epoch, Klistvud écrivait: > Dne, 12. 01. 2011 14:07:53 je Kleene, Nancy (kleenenl) napisal(a): >> Please ignore this test. > > Ignoring. > > Please ignore this reply. Should we ignore you've replied, or should we ignore that you've ignored the first msg? It's confusing ;) ... Oh, ignore it :P Well, replying to your question wouldn't be ignoring, now, would it? So, I'll just keep ignoring. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294850063.720...@compax
Re: hp dj 2050
Dne, 13. 01. 2011 13:43:26 je steef napisal(a): hi list, a friend of mine with a standard gnome-desktop-lenny-net-installation does not get his hp deskjet 2050 j510 working. lenny tells him: 'no cups printing filter'. allthough tasksel installed the printer software and i (for him) installed at localhost:631 a seemingly appropriate printer driver. what can be wrong??? somebody who can help us out? regards, steef Check whether hplip is installed; some hp printers need it. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294923369.9919.0@compax
Re: maintenance
Dne, 13. 01. 2011 23:12:43 je ghe napisal(a): On 1/13/11 2:45 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Jo, 13 ian 11, 14:38:44, Stephen Powell wrote: The bottom line: NEVER respond to an e-mail from ANYBODY which solicits your userid and password, no matter how legitimate the e-mail seems to be. I didn't -- that's why I asked here. And it's also a good idea to not reply to them on debian-user (makes cleaning the archives impossible) and especially to not quote them, not even partially (confuses the spam filters). My way bad. I should have known that. Sorry. And thanks a lot to all of you for answering my n00b problem. It sorta kinda looked like Debian was maybe using a server on UCLA's net as its MTA. And it sounded like a good idea to use a little SASL on some of the senders to Debian's groups... -- Glenn English g...@slsware.com This problem is recurring. Maybe it would be wise for the listmaster to add a short notice to the following footer? Something as: "Please NEVER quote or reply to spam as it confuses the spam filters." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d2f78db.1000...@slsware.com -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294989943.6082.0@compax
Re: Lenny - xvinfo: No Adaptors present..
Dne, 14. 01. 2011 09:24:32 je Chris Jones napisal(a): I'm in the last stages of migrating my (mostly legacy) stuff to a newer laptop and cannot get mplayer to work as well as I had hoped on debian lenny. On my previous system with an old ATI Mach64, I specified the XVideo output driver and was getting pretty decent results. On the new system, with a fairly current nvidia video card, and the default ‘nv’ free driver, only the sound appears to work when I stream TV news channels or play .flv videos. It may be that the nv driver you use is simply slower than the proprietary nvidia driver. See http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Installation-1 for installing the proprietary nvidia driver from the Debian repositories. Hoping that this might be a simple case of debian ’lenny’ being too old for my hardware and that I only needed to be patient and the problem would take care of itself, I proceeded to boot into debian ‘squeeze’, but unfortunately, I got the exact same results as on lenny: no video with ‘xv’, very choppy sound with ‘sdl’, and xvinfo outputs the same three messages as above. Unless you have very specific needs, Squeeze is the way to go on a laptop machine. A more recent kernel, more hardware is supported, ext4 filesystem, and so on. There is really no reason to stick with Lenny in your case as far as I can see (but the decision is yours, of course). I am not really keen on installing the ‘nvidia’ driver on the debian systems, You can say that again. but on the other hand, it would be nice to be able to take a quick look at the news and such without having to reboot.. Is this situation to be expected, or is there any way I could get this to work? I'm afraid it's the former. Freedom never comes cheap (i.e. without sacrifice). -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295014837.6082.1@compax
Re: [SOLVED] Is squeeze compatible with WD20EARS and other 2TB drives?
Dne, 16. 01. 2011 07:04:47 je Stefan Monnier napisal(a): >> > I'm down on these drives due to the maniacal 8 second head park >> > interval, which likely does more mechanical damage than it saves power >> > in dollar terms. >> There is simply no concrete evidence to back this urban legend. > In the WD20EARS I purchased this was in no way just a legend -- be it > urban or rural or otherwise. I'd be really surprised if you had evidence that your drive failed because of mechanical damage due to aggressive head-park. And if your drive failed while still young, well that happens to the best of the drives, and is no evidence that those drives fail more often than others and even less that if they do it's due to the aggressive head-park. I was referring to the first part of the sentence, namely that the 8-second head park interval was not an urban legend. The drive I got came with the factory setting of 8 seconds. I was not referring to the second part (about it doing more mechanical damage than saving power), although I do see a point there. I see your point too, and while I wouldn't go as far as calling it an urban legend, I'd definitely say it's largely a matter of perspective. From my perspective, power saving was not the primary concern; I purchased the drive hoping it would turn out to be 1. quiet enough; 2. reasonably durable, given its slowish rotational speed; and 3. having an optimal per-gigabyte price. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295181442.6034.0@compax
Re: putting "/tmp" to memory help
Dne, 23. 01. 2011 15:08:27 je Henrique de Moraes Holschuh napisal(a): On Sun, 23 Jan 2011, kellyremo wrote: > "to memory" means: mounting a ~2 GByte filesystem [ tmpfs?, or ramfs? ], > and put the "/tmp" on it. [ e.g.: 4 GByte ram in the pc ]. what to write > in the "/etc/fstab"? tmpfs /tmptmpfs defaults,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777,size=1G In squeeze, edit /etc/default/tmpfs: SHM_SIZE=6G TMPFS_SIZE=1G RUN_SIZE=10M LOCK_SIZE=1M RW_SIZE=10M (adjust to your needs). > Disadvantages: - Security? [ how to set this up to be secure? any clear > howtos/links regarding it? :O ] tmpfs does not support security labels in 2.6.32, which limits SELINUX heavily. There is no workaround (unless Debian backported the support to 2.6.32, I didn't check). Switch to per-user TMP directories is recommended. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh Isn't messing with volatile /tmp somewhat a moot point, given that the Linux memory manager manages virtual memory anyway? I mean, if /tmp is heavily used by your system, it will be cached in memory anyway. With 4 GB of RAM (as mentioned by kellyremo), you'll end with probably your entire payload (and not just your /tmp) running from RAM. So what's to be gained with a /tmp in RAM, really? In addition, there is a possibility that dedicating 2 GB of RAM to /tmp, you could end up forcing your system to start swapping out. Which would instantly defeat any speed improvement(s) you might have gained. Linux memory management is quite competent all-round IMHO, and it would take an extremely specific/border/particular user case to warrant moving /tmp to a RAM disk. Any opinions? -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295793980.5499.0@compax
Re: Missing files in home-directory
Dne, 23. 01. 2011 17:25:34 je Tshepang Lekhonkhobe napisal(a): Ummm... he deleted them? On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 18:22, Matthias Andersson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi! > > My dad called me yesterday regarding a problem on his machine running > Debian Lenny. He said he had installed the updates sometime last week > and noticed that all of his files (.pdf, music and photos) went missing > from his home-directory. I had him burn debian livecd and check the > drives with gparted and that did not result in any errors. > > What could be the problem? That, or: 1. he might have inadvertently moved them to some odd location (on my kids' accounts, I frequently find mp3 files moved, say, from the Desktop to the Gnome task bar, or to Trash.) With a file manager, and with some help from a jerky mouse or a jerky hand, you can move files to the strangest of places. 2. the partition currently mounted under the /home mount point is some other "home" (from another Linux install or whatever). May happen after ghosting partitions and ending with two partitions having the identical UUID. 3. oddly configured file manager configured not to show certain file types, or to show them in white text on white background or something like that. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295810723.5499.1@compax
Re: putting "/tmp" to memory help
Dne, 23. 01. 2011 17:19:41 je Pascal Hambourg napisal(a): Tmpfs is not a RAM disk (RAM-based block device), it is a filesystem in virtual memory. Didn't know that. Damn clever. I stand corrected. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295811576.5499.2@compax
Re: Lenny or Squeeze?
Dne, 25. 01. 2011 18:59:24 je Matt Harrison napisal(a): I really don't want to just finish customizing Lenny to the way I want it to only have an upgrade reinstall all of the packages that I just uninstalled. You answered your own question. For best OOBE, wait 10 days for Squeeze to get stable, then install it! -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295980186.14659.1@compax
Re: Lenny or Squeeze?
Dne, 25. 01. 2011 23:02:32 je Joe napisal(a): On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:29:46 +0100 Klistvud wrote: > > For best OOBE, I see you also walk the Dark Path as well. Nope. That was sarcasm, like, erm ... saying "Debian EULA" instead of "Debian Free Software Guidelines" ;P -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295994176.14659.2@compax
Re: Mount all filesystems in fstab, weird problem
Dne, 28. 01. 2011 05:32:53 je T o n g napisal(a): Hi, Somehow my fstab entries are not all mounted by default: $ grep -A2 devpts /etc/fstab devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0622 0 0 LABEL=cache21 /lfs/cache21 ext3 noauto,user,dev,suid,exec 0 0 # /dev/sdb2 LABEL=cache31 /lfs/cache31 ext3 noauto,user,dev,suid,exec 0 0 # /dev/sdc1 $ mount | grep cache || echo no found no found I.e., the /lfs/cache21 & /lfs/cache31 are listed in fstab, but are not mounted by default. why? Moreover, mount --all doesn't work either: % mount -v -a mount: proc already mounted on /proc mount: sysfs already mounted on /sys mount: devpts already mounted on /dev/pts nothing was mounted -a, --all Mount all filesystems (of the given types) mentioned in fstab. FYI, those filesystems can be mouted just fine: % mount -v /lfs/cache21 /dev/sdb2 on /lfs/cache21 type ext3 (rw) % mount -v /lfs/cache31 /dev/sdc1 on /lfs/cache31 type ext3 (rw) So, what could be wrong? Thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ihtgtk$3jm$1...@dough.gmane.org noauto? -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1296220033.5766.0@compax
Re: Recommendation for buy Hardware
Dne, 28. 01. 2011 09:40:42 je GeraldCC napisal(a): On Friday, January 28, 2011 04:24:27 pm Alfonso Ruiz wrote: > Hello. > > I would like ask a recommendation about HDs for Linux, because I use > Squeeze and don´t want have the same problems that people that bought > WD20EARS disks, my budget is limited. > > I plan buy one ST32000641AS for my desktop/server and one ST2000DL003 for > use for backups purpose via an external esata box. > > The ST2000DL003 is 4096 bytes per sector, can this have problems with > squeeze? > > The ST32000641AS is sata3, but will be connected to an sata2 motherboard, > so, can have any problem for this in Squeeze? > > Thanks for the recommendations > snip The ST32000641AS is sata3---this will not work in a sata2 board. you will have to buy a sata 3 pci-e card to run it. Sata3 is backwards compatible to sata2 but not the other wat around. Well, they can't both be "backwards" compatible, can they? They are "compatible" though, AFAIK. The SATA3 drive will just fall back to an older SATA2-compatible operating mode, that's all. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1296220689.5766.1@compax
Re: Realtek 8185 chipset problem
Dne, 28. 01. 2011 19:46:46 je Paul Scott napisal(a): Hi, I have a Trendnet TEW-421PC which has a Realtek 8185 chipset. Installing the driver with ndiswrapper seemed to work fine. ifup wlan0 fails to get a connection. syslog just echoes the failure to get a working lease. TIA for any ideas, Paul Scott The way wireless is configured in Debian, ifup won't get you anywhere by itself -- unless you edit your /etc/network/interfaces accordingly. You have to tinker with iwlist, iwconfig (and ESSID) to make it work. It's perhaps wiser to use a desktop environment and network-manager which should manage connections automatically (well, at least it should display the available wireless networks for you, so you can at least see that your wireless card is working). -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1296241056.5766.2@compax
Re: Realtek 8185 chipset problem
Dne, 28. 01. 2011 20:23:40 je Paul Scott napisal(a): for you, so you can at least see that your wireless card is working). I have iface wlan0 net dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces I also have wicd installed and it doesn't see any wireless networks. wicd.log log says: Unable to autoconnect I've never used wicd, but what do 'iwconfig' and 'iwlist scanning' say? -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1296244365.5766.3@compax
Re: VM speed benchmark
Dne, 30. 01. 2011 21:15:49 je T o n g napisal(a): Hi, Talking about VM, some prefer virtulbox, some VMWare. Don't know how many of you prefer kvm. I'm wondering if you could do the speed benchmark of your preferred VM, and compare the result to that of your host. The reason that I'm asking -- recently I noticed that my kvm is extremely slow, its disk access seems at least 10 times slower (*12 hours* to restore a 600M partition?!). Googling revealed that's a known problem. e.g., http://blog.kagesenshi.org/2008/03/qemu-slow-disk-throughput.html "... I uses Qemu for hosting the guest OS for my development environment. For 2 days, I keep wondering why Zope/Plone loads damn slow on the qemu machine eventhough I have allocated both cores of the processor, and 512RAM for it. 15 minutes simply to start up is really not desirable. I kept on investigating and guess what: [root@unapcict ~]# /sbin/hdparm -t /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 18 MB in 3.03 seconds = 5.95 MB/sec Just for a comparison, the host hdd's speed: [root@Nobuyuki ~]# /sbin/hdparm -t /dev/sdc /dev/sdc: Timing buffered disk reads: 174 MB in 3.01 seconds = 57.71 MB/sec Darn.. So, thats what the reason. . . " See, it *IS* at least 10 times slower. Please comment. a) In the most general user case scenario, kvm uses a *file* as a virtual disk. A file can get way more fragmented than a disk would, and incurs major overhead even when it's not fragmented. b) You sure kvm is *actually used*, and not the non-accelerated qemu? -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1296465661.15666.0@compax
Re: Waiting for Squeeze - was: Backup media - double-layer DVD
Dne, 03. 02. 2011 01:26:11 je Chris Jones napisal(a): Ah.. I detect a flaw... you mean you actually do not rotate safe deposit boxes..? Are you serious..? Agreed. They should be located on different continents, of course. Actually, now that I think about it, satellite providers should make storage capacities available to the general public for uploading precious data. That would be true cloud computing. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1296723019.5510.0@compax
Booting from Squeeze iso possible?
Howdie, fellow Debianites! I am currently downoading the Squeeze iso (specifically, the debian-6.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso) and was wondering: is there a simple way of booting directly from the iso image file without having to actually burn it to a blank DVD? Like chainloading the iso from GRUB2 or something along that line? TIA -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297074043.5951.0@compax
Installing Squeeze with only wireless network available
Howdie, fellow Debianites! There is no wired internet available in our apartment. Is it possible to make the Squeeze installer use a USB wireless interface during installation (for setting up the mirrors, downloading from the internet etc.)? What do I have to do to make it happen? The wireless network I'm planning to use is open to all (unprotected/unencrypted). -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297074437.5951.1@compax
Re: which version for intel chipset 64bit
Dne, 10. 02. 2011 07:22:32 je Bob Proulx napisal(a):
You are making it too difficult. I can't think of any 64-bit capable
cpus that are not 64-bit capable. Really! :-)
The normal question is how can you tell from a 32-bit system, such as
a live cd boot or some such, whether the system is 64-bit capable?
The answer to that question is to look at the cpu flags and see if the
"lm" flag is present. That is the long-mode flag and if present
indicates that the cpu is 64-bit capable.
$ grep --color '\' /proc/cpuinfo
If that flag is present then you are good to go for a 64-bit system.
Well, probably the simplest ("newbie") method would be to download both
versions (i386 and amd64) of Debian. Then, pop in the 64-bit CD.
1) If it runs, you own a 64-bit system.
2) If it doesn't, it will explicitly inform you about the wrong
architecture. Use the 32-bit CD and enjoy!
P.S. For anyone owning more than a single computer and/or maintaining
computers for various relatives & friends having both versions of
Debian CDs handy is a must anyway.
--
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How to make a VM accessible to all users
Howdie, fellow Debianites! I have a qemu-kvm virtual machine -- a virtual Windows XP install -- occasionally running inside my Squeeze and I was wondering: what's the best way for letting all users of the computer access the same instance of the VM (they each have a separate account inside the Windows VM)? Until now, I had each user launch her/his own instance, which is, as you can imagine, somewhat resource-wasteful. TIA -- Happy "squeezing", Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297511121.18682.0@compax
Re: How to make a VM accessible to all users
Dne, 12. 02. 2011 13:55:17 je Andrew McGlashan napisal(a): Hi, Klistvud wrote: Howdie, fellow Debianites! I have a qemu-kvm virtual machine -- a virtual Windows XP install -- occasionally running inside my Squeeze and I was wondering: what's the best way for letting all users of the computer access the same instance of the VM (they each have a separate account inside the Windows VM)? Until now, I had each user launch her/his own instance, which is, as you can imagine, somewhat resource-wasteful. With XP, there was a method that allowed you to have multiple concurrent RDP sessions -- if that fix still works, I'm sure you could google for it. In a nutshell, MS had a release candidate (or beta) that included the ability to run multiple RDPs off the one machine, but they didn't release it in the final SP. Thanx. I seem to hazily recall using that years ago. However, I am also interested in a more general solution. How do you people make several users access your BSD/Solaris/GnuStep/etc. virtual machines? Is "remote desktop" the only way? -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297517385.5267.0@compax
Re: How to make a VM accessible to all users
Dne, 12. 02. 2011 21:25:00 je shawn wilson napisal(a): > > Thanx. I seem to hazily recall using that years ago. However, I am also interested in a more general solution. How do you people make several users access your BSD/Solaris/GnuStep/etc. virtual machines? Is "remote desktop" the only way? > I thinly what your looking is a 'bond'ed interface so that your vm looks like its on your actual network. What do I use? Ssh + screen. But i think your asking about remote x. If so, you edit ssh.conf and maybe an x config file and pass ssh an option and you will be able to run any x program you want. I see. Basically, you make the VM appear as a networked machine; from there, it all boils down to various methods of network access, such as ssh, remote desktop, X forwarding, and similar. Thanx for the input. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297544336.3395.0@compax
Re: bug in the install
Dne, 13. 02. 2011 10:39:20 je Travis napisal(a): sorry for using this email but i stopped helping linux years ago(i still donate tho) when the bug systems got outta wack super-geek only usability ... The Reportbug utility you get with a stock Debian/Gnome install is absolutely newbie-friendly (even I can use it, which tells a lot). any ways, do an install with b43 wireless card and don't feed it firmware. this breaks the network and then the updates and then the voltial line in apt sources. The move towards a firmware-free kernel was quite prominently advertised on Debian-related sites and in articles all over the Internet. While it poses practical challenges to the average user, it is welcomed as a move in the right direction by many Debian users, me humbly included. in other words if someone attempts to install debian on a laptop its going to be a bitch to get working if they haven't used linux for years. Agreed, Debian is somewhat messy to install without a working Internet connection. It was the same with Lenny. If you want an out-of-the-box Debian for Dummies, just install Ubuntu. the tail-tell sign is, after the get there system installed synaptic works funny, but works-ish, and if they try apt-get it fails with a method error sorry but i hate all linux's for what they've become ( i miss old mandrake 7.2 ) and debian was the last hope, now i'm not so sure :-(, automagic is EVIL! Admittedly, some changes have been for the worse, but several have been for the better. Unfortunately, the Linux community never seems to quite agree which is which ... ;) -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297593860.14202.0@compax
Re: Relocating Squeeze partition
Dne, 13. 02. 2011 11:15:04 je Russell Gadd napisal(a): With Lenny I am able to take an image of a partition with an external imaging tool and rewrite it to a different location on the (first) hard drive. In this configuration I have a proprietary bootloader (BootitNG) in the MBR with Grub in the Lenny partition. My main objective is to clone a new install to run each for distinct purposes which I want to keep entirely separate. Let me get this straight. You installed Squeeze and then cloned it to another partition? Where does the Lenny partition come in? What does work and what doesn't? After installing Squeeze this does not work. On trying to boot in the new location I just get a black screen with the word GRUB in the top corner. I think the main differences with Lenny are that I have Grub2 instead of Grub, ext4 instead of ext3 and UUIDs instead of /dev/sdxn in fstab. Both systems are AMD64. Cloning a partition will give you two partitions with identical UUIDs. This will confuse Grub2 to no end. It will also confuse your fstab.Use tune2fs and blkid to set that right. Additionally, Grub2 won't work without its os-prober. Check you have it. Also check your Squeeze /boot/grub/grub.cfg to see what's in there. Additionally, Grub2 is modular and it needs to load the right modules in order to boot properly: the module for msdos (or GUID, depending on your partition table) partition tables, the module for ext4 if needed, and other modules that it might need. Usually it detects the right modules and puts them inside its /boot/grub/grub.cfg automagically (it's probably the os-prober who does this). I don't know where the problem(s) lie. Is it reasonably possible to adjust settings somewhere to accomplish this relocation? If it's not reasonably straightforward I guess I'll just have to reinstall and retweak in the new location. I think it is reasonably possible, I do it all the time. It is a bit time consuming though. Google is definitely your friend. (After relocating I could boot into the original Squeeze system and then mount the new Squeeze root partition in order to make changes.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikwwzuzuxsdd5msmhbtn04qfgg0griaywdfo...@mail.gmail.com -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297594489.14202.1@compax
Re: screen saver
Dne, 14. 02. 2011 15:19:38 je alvise russo napisal(a): Ciao, ho installato Squeeze su lenovo R500 amd64 : non riuscendo a segnalare con reportbug, segnalo che lo screen saver si impalla dopo un lasso di tempo di ca 20 minuti e il monitor diventa a righe bianco e nero. Poi con l'uso del click o con il movimento del mouse si riattiva lentamente. Alvise - Treviso Ciao, devi sapere che su questa lista si usa solo l'Inglese. Inoltre, trattandosi di una lista di utenti e per utenti, non e' l'indirizzo giusto per segnalare i bugs. Se il tuo reportbug non funziona, puoi segnalare il bug andando direttamente al sito http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297697749.8678.0@compax
Re: New policies?
way (without dealing with apt-pinning or similar), my idea and suggestion is, just to transfer necessary newer versions (and hand- picked) of libs and applications to stable. But that would require the change of the debian policies (and of course the agreement of users, developers and ftp-masters). I like -- actually, love, as Barry White would say, -- Debian "just the way it is". My approach to Debian took some time. After a brief experience with Mandriva, and a year of OpenSuSE, with superficial interludes of ubuntu, I finally arrived at a distribution that best suits my character, my principles, and my ethics. My path was not light-hearted, nor was my final choice. I hope that makes it easier to understand why I don't want Debian to change too much. There are literally tons of other distros to choose from, many of them are updated frequently, some are even rolling distributions. And, of course, there's the final beauty of GNU/Linux: if none of the available distros satisfies you, you may roll up your sleeves and build your own. It's not that there are prohibitive EULAs or anything: all the source code is freely available! I will be pleased if my suggestion is worth to start a discussion of it. Consider my reply as part of that discussion. If I seem harsh, I apologize. I'm just very passionate about my beloved distro, that's all. Thank you very much for reading this and all the work in the best distribution ever. Happy hacking! Hans-J. Ullrich I hereby join you in sending my warmest thanks to all the ~1000 Debian developers/maintainers/staff who made Squeeze possible. We love you guys (even when our video drivers lock up and when our kernels panic, we still love you)! -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297715220.14772.0@compax
Re: Way to have terminal/console application stack in gnome like in KDE 3.5's kicker?
Dne, 17. 02. 2011 01:51:27 je D G Teed napisal(a): Having lost KDE 3.5 in the squeeze update, and not being satisfied with the new KDE 4.* (frankly, I think it is very poorly designed), I am looking for a desktop which can stack running terminal sessions. Let's say I have 50 Konsole or gnome-terminal windows open, each to a different remote box. I want to click on the panel area and select one by name which is already open. I could do that in KDE 3.5. Firefox and other apps could do this too. How is this done in gnome or what options are there for managing many open sessions of something? --Donald Just an idea: An intuitive way of doing that in GNOME would be to increase the number of workspaces (virtual desktops) to, say, 12. The beauty of that is that you can define keyboard shortcuts to switch from one workspace to another (binding them to, say, a modifier key + F1-F12 combo). That way, you can switch to any given workspace with just one keyboard stroke. Another practical way of navigating is via a keyboard combination for next-workspace and previous-workspace (i.e. workspace to the left and workspace to the right of the current one). Then, given a big enough screen, you could open 4 gnome-terminals on each workspace, and arrange them so they don't even overlap (i.e. so that you have a clean overview of all 4 at any moment). That way, you have 48 terminal set up for extremely easy navigation. Further possible improvements: a) perhaps GNOME allows for even more workspaces than 12 (I've never needed more -- or less -- than 8, so can't really tell). That way, you could potentially set up 50 different workspaces for 50 individual gnome-terminals, each of them accessible by a dedicated keyboard shortcut; or b) you could group your gnome-terminals by task, in order to memorize them easily. For example, one workspace could be dedicated to just "remote exim servers", another workspace to "remote squid proxies", yet another workspace could be dedicated to rsync sessions, and so on ... -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297950378.19081.0@compax
Remmina can't connect to a "dormant" VNC account
Howdie, fellow Debianites! This post is about two stock Squeeze installs and establishing a remote desktop VNC connection between them. I'm using the stock Remmina client for connecting from a Squeeze laptop to a Squeeze desktop. However, I wanted to have a remote connection while letting any local user remain logged on locally on the server. As it is, I can only connect remotely when no user is at the remote machine, i.e. I can only connect to the foreground account on the remote machine. Otherwise, all I get on the client is a black screen. The tab in Remmina says I'm logged onto guest@remoteserver, but the Remmina window just stays black. Is this the intended mode of operation? Or, in other words: can I connect to a "background" remote session, leaving the foreground session/user unaffected? I don't want to have to kick local users off just in order to be able to connect remotely. What must I do to achieve that? It was my understanding that, with VNC, you could even have *several* users connected remotely at the same time? I can't seem to even have *one*... P.S. Yes, I *have* logged out and in again. Still no dice. TIA -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1298025072.5484.0@compax
Re: Remmina can't connect to a "dormant" VNC account
Dne, 18. 02. 2011 18:29:36 je Liam O'Toole napisal(a): On 2011-02-18, Klistvud wrote: > Howdie, fellow Debianites! > > This post is about two stock Squeeze installs and establishing a remote > desktop VNC connection between them. I'm using the stock Remmina client > for connecting from a Squeeze laptop to a Squeeze desktop. However, I > wanted to have a remote connection while letting any local user remain > logged on locally on the server. As it is, I can only connect remotely > when no user is at the remote machine, i.e. I can only connect to the > foreground account on the remote machine. Otherwise, all I get on the > client is a black screen. The tab in Remmina says I'm logged onto > guest@remoteserver, but the Remmina window just stays black. Is this > the intended mode of operation? Or, in other words: can I connect to a > "background" remote session, leaving the foreground session/user > unaffected? I don't want to have to kick local users off just in order > to be able to connect remotely. What must I do to achieve that? It was > my understanding that, with VNC, you could even have *several* users > connected remotely at the same time? I can't seem to even have *one*... > > P.S. Yes, I *have* logged out and in again. Still no dice. > > TIA You can run any number of VNC servers in the background using the vncserver command (from the package vnc4server or tightvncserver). There are several examples of its usage on the web. Here's one that popped up in a web search: http://www.penlug.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TightVNC Thanks for the link. Installing tightvncserver did it. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1298055606.15496.0@compax
Re: question about storage
Dne, 19. 02. 2011 05:36:54 je Jim Green napisal(a): Hello! I have a laptop with 120G harddrive, 2x320G external harddrive, I don't have a desktop. Now I am doing something serious storing some huge historical data to mysql database and want to have some better storage solution(I hate the two external harddrives I bought 4 years ago, need to power them on individually and connect with laptop each time I need to use data in them). I have two options 1, buy a desktop with 4x2T harddrives and use lvm on raid1, I need the redundancy of data. +1 2, buy some independent storage like NAS, buy another desktop with small harddrive to access the NAS, debian installed on NAS and desktop of course. what do you think would be a better solution for me? I like the NAS idea that storage is independent so I can keep the NAS even if I upgrade my desktops, but the con is I need to buy separate NAS.. What makes you think that, with solution 1., storage is *not* independent? NAS solutions, just as USB and eSATA external enclosures, have several disadvantages: 1) there's generally no easy upgrade path (except perhaps in professional-grade equipment that only datacenters can afford); 2) being the current market fad, they all come with an overprice relative to their "true value" (you pay way too much per gigabyte of storage as opposed to plain hard drives); 3) you have to pay an additional overprice if you want sturdy, brand name hardware; this overprice may be so huge as to become prohibitive; 4) hard drives in external enclosures and NAS solutions are generally slower/smaller/inferior/last year; again, that is just the general rule which "can" be avoided -- by shelling for yet another additional overprice of course; 5) according to user reports, there is potential for compatibility woes (particularly with external enclosures, less so with NAS). The fact that you presently don't own a desktop is another huge point in favor of getting one. IMHO: you should get a desktop with plenty of hard drive bays, so that you won't be facing problems if/when your data footprint doubles or trebles. Perhaps you should go for 3T drives from the outset. Data tend to grow at amazing speeds. And a good 1000/100/10 ethernet card. With the addition of a cheap wireless router in your home, you'll be able to access your data from any point in your house, or even your backyard, without messing with any cables/enclosures and the like. In addition, you'll have a fallback machine in case your laptops goes belly up. With modern power-saving capabilities you can even leave the desktop running 24/7 and install some nifty server packages, such as squid, apache, a full-fledged mail server, and of course mysql. Debian is just ideal for that. Happy shopping! -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1298112916.15496.2@compax
Re: AC adapter state
Dne, 21. 02. 2011 11:40:19 je Γιώργος Πάλλας napisal(a): Hello to all! I have a DELL laptop running debian squeeze where I cannot find whether it is connected on AC power or not. On an EEE laptop, I can check that using the info in the file /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/AC0/state, but such file does not exist on the DELL laptop. But KDE shows me correctly the relevant info on the battery state icon. Where does it take its info from? Try exploring the /sys/ subtree (such as /sys/class/power_supply or similar). -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1298290767.18969.2@compax
Re: Debian 6.0
Dne, 22. 02. 2011 23:54:45 je Chris Brennan napisal(a): On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Marius Pehk wrote: > What the heck version 6.0 when I can not insttall it?I hawe 8 DVDś witout > grapphical enviroment Penntium III 500E Acorp moterboard 440 chpset 128MB > memori, ATi 2000 pro video card LG Flatron LCD monitor Weird, because I have a GUI environment already and I only used the minimal install CD I think you missed something during the install... -- Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org 128 MB seems a little low; does it satisfy Squeeze's minimal system requirements at all? You must also provide adequate disk space for your intended install. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1298478561.5028.1@compax
Re: Debian 6.0
Dne, 23. 02. 2011 17:38:29 je AG napisal(a): On 22/02/11 22:35, Marius Pehk wrote: What the heck version 6.0 when I can not insttall it?I hawe 8 DVDś witout grapphical enviroment Penntium III 500E Acorp moterboard 440 chpset 128MB memori, ATi 2000 pro video card LG Flatron LCD monitor I second Chris' assessment: I used a netinstall disk and am up and running. Check your hardware specs as Klistvud suggests and then be sure that at the tasksel option on the graphical install, Perhaps a ncurses (non-graphical) install would be a better option for such a low-specced machine? select (graphical) desktop. The OP mentioned "witout grapphical environment"; I take he means he doesn't want/need a graphical desktop. The installation should take care of itself and boot you into a GUI login. If it doesn't, then your graphics card may be at fault, or it could be a failure in the installation process. Best to post the error messages so that the knowledgeable folk here can help you more effectively. Good luck. AG -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1298536054.4085.0@compax
Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian
Dne, 23. 02. 2011 22:11:25 je Carlos Mennens napisal(a): 1. Screen from console is not cleared as root or regular user once you log out. 2. Users home directories get created with 755 permissions. Anyone can access your home directory and files. 3. Debian installer defaults to creating user group names which is just a mess. Obviously these are not critical issues but in my opinion extremely annoying and pointless. Does anyone know why Debian developers choose these behaviors for a default Debian system? I just don't understand the logic. 4. The sshd daemon allows root logins by default. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1298539100.4085.1@compax
Re: setting parameters of disc /dev/sda failed .
Dne, 26. 02. 2011 12:18:21 je Camaleón napisal(a):
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:33:16 +0800, waterloo wrote:
> I delete below in /etc/hdparm.conf , it is now ok.
>
>> /dev/sda {
>>apm = 254
>>spindown_time = 60
>>dma = on
>> }
Good.
> But why did "cancelling in 'Services' config" not work ? Thanks
Maybe because the application does not run as daemon but sets the
defined
parameters when the system boots.
I looked at "/etc/default/hdparm" but there is no variable to "enable/
disable" the service so I'm afraid if you want to completely turn it
off,
you need to remove the program or just keep the default parameters
(all
settings commented "#" as you did).
Greetings,
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Well, there *is* a hdparm script inside /etc/init.d, so it apparently
does run as a daemon of some sort. AFAIK it's configured through
/etc/hdparm.conf, but it should be at least possible to stop it via
/etc/init.d/hdparm stop ...
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Re: Debian vs. other firewall/server operating systems
Dne, 28. 02. 2011 08:00:14 je Jason Hsu napisal(a): Given all this, what are the reasons for using the other server operating systems? WHY WHY WHY are there Windows servers out there? I know that Windows has only a small percentage of the server market, but given its inferior stability and security, why is it used at all? Because, without realizing it, people are usually their own worst enemy. Short-sightedness rules. We're human, after all. Everybody is, or has been, short-sighted in some particular realm of life. Really smart people have never been the majority, and they probably never will be. There is, however, one point of solace in that: luckily for us, they mostly inflict damage on themselves, the poor sods. In the end, it just comes back to bite *them* much more than us, and, as a result, it makes them think. Sometimes, it even makes them amend their ways. Which is not bad. Why do people use Ubuntu on the server given that Debian is more stable? Why do people use RedHat given that it has proprietary features in it? (While it's not Windows, it sounds like a step in the wrong direction.) I've heard that CentOS is MUCH more difficult to upgrade than Debian, so why do people use CentOS on the server? GNU/Linux is about freedom. Which includes freedom of choice. I suppose not all system administrators have the exact same goals in mind when setting up their servers. Perhaps that's the reason? In addition, each of the distros you mention have their own niche ecosystems. Specifically, RedHat is probably the greatest GNU/Linux success story in the corporate market, in that it proves that a free software company can prosper in a capitalist market. It proves that GNU/Linux is not just some "commie fad" for leftist weirdos. Proving that is no minor thing. As to Ubuntu specifically, many Debian developers are tightly intertwined with the Ubuntu crowd. Don't you think it was time we started looking at Ubuntu with a more sympathetic, condescending eye? In my view, Debian should take pride in Ubuntu and in everything Ubuntu has achieved. It is, after all, one of many Debian's children. Agreed, a slightly obese and retarded one, but a child nonetheless. And can a mother not love her child -- even if it's an "enfant terrible" gone slightly astray? -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1298890519.10205.0@compax
Re: Squeeze: can Bluetooth headset work without pulseaudio???
Dne, 27. 02. 2011 22:21:05 je Celejar napisal(a):
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:55:42 -0500
John wrote:
> I have used pulseaudio in the past, and it was horrible to install
> and understand. But for a while, I had it working on some machine
or
> other, with Etch or Lenny (I think). Sinks, sources, wonderful.
That
> machine is long gone.
>
> I recently installed Squeeze/KDE 4.45, and I wanted to use a
bluetooth
> headset. My Googling led me to believe that it CAN NOT be done
> without pulseaudio.
I wish I knew. I've wasted hours trying to get a bluetooth headset
working, without success. Documentation is horrible, and everything
you find is incomplete and / or outdated. Never really had the
patience to install the whole pulseaudio shebang just to do something
really simple that absolutely shouldn't require it.
Celejar
FWIW I had my bluetooth headset working under Lenny. It required no
pulse audio. Wait a minute, let me check...
OK. I copied the old Lenny ~/.asoundrc to my Squeeze home dir and it
works in Squeeze too. This is the contents of my ~/.asoundrc:
pcm.bt_audioraw {
type bluetooth
device 00:0B:E4:38:F8:F7
profile "auto"
}
pcm.bt_audio {
type plug
slave.pcm "bt_audioraw"
hint {
show on
description "Zvočna naprava bluetooth"
}
}
Of course you must first pair your bluetooth headset with your machine,
which is a no-brainer with the GNOME bluetooth applet.
Once you have it paired, you should use hcitool and/or other utilities
to find out your headset's hardware address and replace the "device
XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX" line in your .asoundrc accordingly.
Once you have the right~/.asoundrc in place, you can easily switch
between the external speakers and the bluetooth headset by running some
script such as this:
#!/bin/bash
state=`gconftool --get /system/gstreamer/0.10/default/musicaudiosink |
cut -d\ -f1`
if [ $state == "autoaudiosink" ]; then
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/audiosink "alsasink device=bt_audio"
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/musicaudiosink "alsasink device=bt_audio"
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/chataudiosink "alsasink device=bt_audio"
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/videosink "alsasink device=bt_audio"
zenity --info --title="GStreamer" --text="Zvočni izhod preklopljen
na bluetooth slušalke."
else
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/audiosink "autoaudiosink"
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/musicaudiosink "autoaudiosink"
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/chataudiosink "autoaudiosink"
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/videosink "autovideosink"
zenity --info --title="GStreamer" --text="Zvočni izhod preklopljen
na zvočnike."
fi
echo Audiosink preklopljen na `gconftool --get
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/musicaudiosink`.
The above procedure only works for gstreamer (for example, system
sounds and Totem movies will still be heard through the external
speakers). It's great for listening to Rhythmbox though.
I've left a couple of strings in my language, which is Slovenian, but
you should have no trouble adapting them to your needs. They don't
affect functionality anyway.
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Re: Squeeze: can Bluetooth headset work without pulseaudio???
Dne, 28. 02. 2011 12:42:57 je Klistvud napisal(a):
Dne, 27. 02. 2011 22:21:05 je Celejar napisal(a):
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:55:42 -0500
John wrote:
> I have used pulseaudio in the past, and it was horrible to install
> and understand. But for a while, I had it working on some machine
or
> other, with Etch or Lenny (I think). Sinks, sources, wonderful.
That
> machine is long gone.
>
> I recently installed Squeeze/KDE 4.45, and I wanted to use a
bluetooth
> headset. My Googling led me to believe that it CAN NOT be done
> without pulseaudio.
I wish I knew. I've wasted hours trying to get a bluetooth headset
working, without success. Documentation is horrible, and everything
you find is incomplete and / or outdated. Never really had the
patience to install the whole pulseaudio shebang just to do something
really simple that absolutely shouldn't require it.
Celejar
FWIW I had my bluetooth headset working under Lenny. It required no
pulse audio. Wait a minute, let me check...
OK. I copied the old Lenny ~/.asoundrc to my Squeeze home dir and it
works in Squeeze too. This is the contents of my ~/.asoundrc:
pcm.bt_audioraw {
type bluetooth
device 00:0B:E4:38:F8:F7
profile "auto"
}
pcm.bt_audio {
type plug
slave.pcm "bt_audioraw"
hint {
show on
description "Zvočna naprava bluetooth"
}
}
Of course you must first pair your bluetooth headset with your
machine, which is a no-brainer with the GNOME bluetooth applet.
Once you have it paired, you should use hcitool and/or other
utilities to find out your headset's hardware address and replace the
"device XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX" line in your .asoundrc accordingly.
Once you have the right~/.asoundrc in place, you can easily switch
between the external speakers and the bluetooth headset by running
some script such as this:
#!/bin/bash
state=`gconftool --get /system/gstreamer/0.10/default/musicaudiosink
| cut -d\ -f1`
if [ $state == "autoaudiosink" ]; then
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/audiosink "alsasink device=bt_audio"
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/musicaudiosink "alsasink
device=bt_audio"
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/chataudiosink "alsasink
device=bt_audio"
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/videosink "alsasink device=bt_audio"
zenity --info --title="GStreamer" --text="Zvočni izhod preklopljen
na bluetooth slušalke."
else
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/audiosink "autoaudiosink"
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/musicaudiosink "autoaudiosink"
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/chataudiosink "autoaudiosink"
gconftool --type string --set
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/videosink "autovideosink"
zenity --info --title="GStreamer" --text="Zvočni izhod preklopljen
na zvočnike."
fi
echo Audiosink preklopljen na `gconftool --get
/system/gstreamer/0.10/default/musicaudiosink`.
The above procedure only works for gstreamer (for example, system
sounds and Totem movies will still be heard through the external
speakers). It's great for listening to Rhythmbox though.
I've left a couple of strings in my language, which is Slovenian, but
you should have no trouble adapting them to your needs. They don't
affect functionality anyway.
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Sorry if the above procedure is GNOME-specific, but it's all I have.
Perhaps it can get you started at least. Anyway, I sincerely don't
think pulseaudio is required to make a bluetooth headset work. Not even
in KDE.
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Re: Debian 6 64-bit and Openbox: Opinions, Suggestions, Pitfalls.
Dne, 27. 02. 2011 21:05:11 je Patrick Bartek napisal(a): Having tired of Fedora's short support life (13 months)--I've been using it since FC3, but have only been upgrading every 3rd release since 6--and wanting a distro where longevity and stability are paramount, and SELinux is an option, not the default, I've settled on Debian 6. However, my custom-built system is mostly 5 year old hardware, and I want to get away from today's CPU-cycle eating, eye-candy, desktop environments, the features of which are mostly wasted on me, and go with the efficiency of a pure window manager set up. That is, no GNOME, KDE, etc. installed at all. I've chosen Openbox as the window manager as it seems to offer an efficient balance between features and RAM usage. VirtualBox tests with Debian 6 RC2 32-bit look good. My system: Abit KN9 motherboard, built-in audio and ethernet AMD Athlon64 X2 2.9 GHZ EVGA GeForce 8400GS graphics card, fanless (by design) 4GB RAM 160GB SATA HD Pioneer DVR-112D IDE DVD/CD Writer Any opinions, suggestions or pitfalls? I'll dual boot keeping Fedora 12 currently on the system as a fallback. Thanks. B I run Squeeze with stock GNOME on a somewhat inferior machine with only half your RAM, and it's quite snappy. I've never seen it swap to disk, although there are 4-5 concurrent GNOME sessions open all the time, and a squid3 server with a 9GB on-disk cache is running. Of course, everything depends on your intended usage, but there should generally be no pitfalls to speak of... ;) -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1298894560.10205.3@compax
Re: Intermittent internet since upgrading to squeeze
Dne, 27. 02. 2011 23:48:23 je George napisal(a): Ever since I upgraded to squeeze I have intermittent internet. It works for about 30-45 seconds, then it stops. I have to do ifdown -a ifup -a which brings it back, only for it to go down again. The strange part is that no such problems occur when booting into recovery mode. I tried disabling ipv6 at the kernel level but it didn't make any difference. This is simple Ethernet networking and it was working fine in lenny. If you post the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces, there are usually some quite savvy network guys lurking here who should be able to help you. It's probably just network-manager acting up. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1298894879.10205.4@compax
Re: Fwd: Re: [OT] Re: Defending yourself
Dne, 12. 05. 2011 12:21:49 je Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napisal(a): In , Camaleón wrote: >On Wed, 11 May 2011 23:24:30 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> On 2011-05-11 17:35:20 Freeman wrote: >>>On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 08:30:49PM +, Camaleón wrote: >>>> IMHO, that rule lacks the following preface: "Should a user states >>>> his/ her desire to keep a private conversation..." >>> >>>+1 >>> >> -1 >> >>>Unless the user states that it is a private email, or it is obviously >>>discrete, the most expeditious thing is to forward it to the list. >>> >> It's nearly impossible to infer whether the sender meant the message to >> be private or not. > >No, it is not. > >I am writing to a public mailing list and I expect that any reply to any >of what I wrote on it is kept the same -public- and directed to the >mailing list. > >So as I am not the one breaking the way a mailing list works, if I >receive an e-mail _just directed to me_ (and not to the list) following a >thread that is taking place in a public mailing list I can proceed as I >prefer. You can choose to break the Code of Conduct, yes. However, the Code of Conduct is the expected behavior on the list. If you are sent a message via private mail, the Code of Conduct says that you should not quote it (in full or in part) in mails to the list, without explicit permission. >> Making the reply public and cause significant and >> irreversible damage. Whereas, keeping the reply private causes, at >> most, temporary and reversible damage. > >Should the user wants to go private, he/she has to clearly state so in >the message. If he/she does not, that's not my fault and I don't have a >crystal ball to guess each user preferences on this matter. This is seems to contradict your earlier statement (above) that it is not "nearly impossible to infer" the senders intent, by implying one would need a functional crystal ball in order to do so. Since you don't have a crystal ball (i.e. find it nearly impossible to infer the senders intent), you should take the action that results in the least harm -- keep the reply private. Failing that, you should follow the established Code of Conduct for the list -- keep the reply private. You can chose not to conduct yourself as expected for the list, but it would not be appreciated. If you'd like to change the Code of Conduct to align with your desires, I think you should take the issue up with the list masters. I am willing to discuss the issue further, but I think you'll find convincing me that your behavior is in line with the Code of Conduct is an unlikely proposition. Even if I were to be convinced that your behavior should be sanctioned (or at least tolerated) by the Code of Conduct, I am not in a position to change it. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ +1 a) the Code of Conduct is perfecty clear on the point; b) I fully agree with the principle of the-lesser-harm too; an important principle in interpersonal and public relations; c) the *fact* of going private is indication enough of the person's intention -- but even if we don't see it that way, we should respect the fact alone. Making assumptions as to their reasons for going private, or even going as far as to imply that they don't have a clue how this list (or their mail client) should be used -- and "chastising" them by posting back to the public list -- may come across as impolite at best and preposterously condescending at worst. If it *was* a blunder on their part, let them be the judge of that, OK? As you say, It is easy enough to prompt the sender to use the list for future correspondence and simultaneously give you permissions for your private message to be quoted in a public forum. A perfectly sane *and polite* way to go. That said, I must admit that up till now I've generally posted privately received messages back onto the list... I see that as a mistake now. I did it, at least in part, out of irritation because I saw it as a disrespect toward my signature which clearly states I don't want to be messaged privately. In line with the above, I apologize to anybody concerned for doing that in the past. That behavior is about to change. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1305210039.9789.7@compax
Re: Help About Squeeze
Dne, 13. 05. 2011 11:58:43 je Aldyth Maharsha napisal(a): I''m sorry i have using dd for long time ago, my data not corrupted You said you had a "partition error" in your original post? just why my server like "sleep"..thanks for your advise..:-) Like others have said, it's probably a setting in your BIOS that's doing it. Update it if need be, and check the BIOS Power management, especially the Power settings (APM/ACPI) and disable *all* power-saving features. If that solves nothing, perhaps you have some hardware failure? -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1305293591.31550.0@compax
Re: Download onto CD failed to burn
Dne, 13. 05. 2011 03:14:28 je Chris napisal(a): Make sure you are burning as an iso image and not just burning the actual file to the media Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Michael Selinger Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 17:29:58 To: Subject: Download onto CD failed to burn Hello, I'm interested in trying out Debian's OS. I downloaded from your website, which took a half hour even with a high speed cable connection. I then sent it on to my E-drive, to burn it onto a disc. After 17 mins., I forced a shutdown...log message "Burn failed." I'm at a loss. Never had a problem burning a cd or dvd on this unit. Any suggestions? I would like to get away from relying on Windows, and try your OS, as I heard it was superior. Wellcome to the free world. In addition to what Chris suggested, perhaps you have a corrupted download? If that is the case, try downloading a smaller version of Debian (I suggest the "netinst" CD iso), it will install just as well as the largest DVDs. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1305294217.31550.1@compax
Re: how do i report a bug in reportbug ?
Dne, 14. 05. 2011 01:10:18 je Paul E Condon napisal(a): I tried to use reportbug to report a bug (wishlist) in approx. I didn't succeed because first i got a segmentation fault and on second try i got floating point exception. My computer is running Squeeze i386 and so far as I know the installation is totally unexceptional result of using businesscard pointed to an approx server that points to ftp.us.debian.org . It appears to be a python problem. I don't know python at all. I have, in the past, successfully followed instructions to submit debug information. but debug reportbug??? I need help. All I know is the (same?) bug hit me a couple months ago. Then, eventually, it went away with one of the many updates. In the meantime, I just used the Debian BTS site. One would wish reportbug was more stable ... the stable branch at least ;) -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1305333279.4582.0@compax
Re: GRUB GRUB black screen
Dne, 14. 05. 2011 08:18:29 je Russell Gadd napisal(a): One of my operating systems (a version of Debian Squeeze) is now refusing to boot. It just shows a black screen with the 2 words GRUB GRUB in the top left hand corner. I wonder if anyone has seen this sort of behaviour before? ...snip... Any ideas would be very welcome. Try out http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/ The output of the script is very helpful, provided you understand it (basic knowledge of partitioning and Grub recommended). -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1305364397.3976.0@compax
Re: CUPS Driver for Epson Stylus NX420 printer?
Dne, 20. 05. 2011 19:43:21 je dave boland napisal(a): This is a little off your topic, but I have an Epson (C88) as well, and wish that CUPS/driver supported ink levels, head cleaning and alignment, and duplexing (the Epson Windows driver supports this with 2-pass printing). Any reason they are not supported? How's this for a reason: Epson not giving a rodent's undertail for their non-Windows users? Personally, I stick to a simple policy: I don't support (i.e. buy from) vendors who don't support Linux. Keeps me out of a *lot* of trouble. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1305964489.4298.0@compax
Re: Help Installing Debian
Dne, 21. 05. 2011 09:40:02 je Camaleón napisal(a): [snip] I have not much experience with GPT partitioning but nowadays with moderns distributions it should not be a problem :-? Don't know about LVM/RAID setups, but plain old one-disk setups need a (tiny) dedicated boot partition if you want GRUB-PC installed. There's no place for its boot code in GPT (as it was in the MS-DOS partition table). [pins] -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1305965054.4298.1@compax
Re: Non Working Keyboard
Dne, 21. 05. 2010 02:56:32 je David Hoff Jr napisal(a): I have an older computer which use to have Windows XP on it. It currently has Vinux 3.0 on it. I downloaded the Debian I386 installation version of 5.0.4 ISO and burned it to CD. When I try to install it, I get an opening screen with an installation menu which then freezes. I have no apparent keyboard input, and of course no mouse. I tried the same CD on a newer computer and it first brings up an option to choose my language and then brings up the installation menu which is accessible from my keyboard. It then brings up a license screen. At that point I abort the install. What do I need to do to install this to the older computer which has an AMD 1500+ mz processor. David Hoff Jr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100520175613.0375.3bf3c...@att.net From the symptoms you describe, and ruling out bad RAM (you HAVE of course checked for bad RAM, haven't you?), my first guess would be "an aging optical drive, combined with a flakily burnt CD". Such combinations can prove hard to overcome. Suggestions: temporarily installing a newer optical drive into the box; or burning another CD, preferably on a different drive/machine, and on different brand of media, and at the slowest burning rate available; or perhaps, for the adventurous at heart, even asking uncle Google about "installing Debian directly from an ISO file on the hard drive, without burning a CD". -- Regards, and luck, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1274525713.311...@compax
Re: [SOLVED] New 3-button serial mouse not detected by Lenny
Dne, 16. 05. 2010 15:59:19 je Chris Austin napisal(a): The three buttons now appear to be working as they are supposed to, i.e. 1 for select, 2 for context menus, and middle / 3 for paste, and even just while writing this message it has been an enormous relief to be able to paste with a proper middle button, rather than by 3-button emulation, which in Lenny frequently gives an unwanted context menu, and even worse, sometimes activates an item in that context menu. Uhm? I've been using Lenny on three different machines since 5.00 first came out and haven't seen the behavior you describe. Even my Genius bluetooth mouse works without a glitch, as do two distinct wireless Trust el-cheapo mice (one PS/2, the other USB). I *do* however encounter a somewhat similar problem with my laptop's touchpad: in Iceweasel, instead of scrolling the page (the touchpad has right-edge scrolling enabled by default), it apparently tries to jump to another URL, or maybe pastes an URL from somewhere. Haven't yet been able to track down the source of this annoyance though ... ;( -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1274528296.311...@compax
Cloned Lenny OS partition: bumped into hibernate and grub2 issues
Howdy, fellow users of this magnificient OS called Debian! I've recently swapped the hard drive on my box, after cloning my Lenny (and other) partition(s) from the old drive that was becoming too small. I just did dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hdb2 After changing the UUID of the new partition and manually making some minor adjustments to /boot/grub/grub.cfg and /etc/fstab, the system boots OK, but there are two glitches I can't seem to sort out: 1. hibernation bails out with the message "Cannot find swap device", although there IS a big enough, and actively used swap partition on the new drive; and 2. update-grub still refers to the OS partition by the old UUID, which is no longer correct. In order to boot, I must manually edit grub.cfg, but I'd like this fixed *properly*. I suspect both issues are related to the changed UUIDs of both the swap and the OS partitions. Now, my questions to the savants out there: 1. How do I tell the hibernation scripts that there IS a swap device, but with another UUID? 2. Where do the grub2 scripts get their UUIDs from, so I can replace the wrong UUIDs with the right ones? -- TIA, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1274530100.311...@compax
Re: Cloned Lenny OS partition: bumped into hibernate and grub2 issues
Dne, 23. 05. 2010 03:40:54 je Tom H napisal(a): Re 1. Your swap partition's UUID must be different. Check "/etc/initramfs-tools/". There is a "resume" file (in that dir or in a subdir) that will have your swap partition's UUID. Thanx, Tom H. It worked. Re 2. What do you mean by "After changing the UUID of the new partition"? After "dd...", did your run "tune2fs -U ..." on your root partition (or the equivalent for xfs, ...; I am assuming that you have just one partition)? If you didn't, your root partition still has the same UUID and update-grub is picking it up correctly (in which case, I have no idea idea how you are booting up!). You're perfectly right. Was looking at the wrong partition (I currently have a mess of partitions on my drives, some of which are clones of others ...). Now, after my usual cup of coffee, and with a clearer grasp of things thanx to your comment, update-grub suddenly decided to work perfectly again ;P -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1274601738.684...@compax
Moving /tmp to a separate partition. Advice?
Howdy, fellow Debianites! Given some extra hard drive space, I decided to move my /tmp dir (currently located under / ) to a partition of its own. I am looking forward to any advice, particularly of the been-there-done-that type: * how should I configure my fstab entry? How does Debian installer do it? * is there anything Debian-specific to watch for? * is it true that setting /tmp permissions to non-executable, while hardening your box, prevents apt from working properly? -- TIA, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1274603838.684...@compax
Re: Moving /tmp to a separate partition. Advice?
Dne, 23. 05. 2010 10:45:36 je Ron Johnson napisal(a): Why? I frequently burn double-layer DVDs, requiring around 8GB of free space for temporary files. Until now, I had to do that on another rig. Also, I'm planning to do some video editing, which, I'm told, likewise requires huge amounts of temporary space. On my / partition, I have nowhere *near* that amount of free space. -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1274605819.684...@compax
Re: Moving /tmp to a separate partition. Advice?
Thanx for your exhaustive answer, it's an enlightening read. The point that appears particularly interesting to me personally is: Permissions come from the mounted FS, not the mount point, so make sure you set these permissions while it's mounted. It's always good to learn something new. -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1274634775.684...@compax
Re: Moving /tmp to a separate partition. Advice?
Dne, 23. 05. 2010 17:00:09 je Rob Owens napisal(a): If /tmp is its own partition, you might consider using ext2 for speed. You could also consider RAID 0, if you have mulitple drives. A good suggestion, thanx. What about ext4, is it slower or faster than ext2? -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1274634861.684...@compax
Re: Moving /tmp to a separate partition. Advice?
Dne, 23. 05. 2010 12:28:36 je d.sastre.med...@gmail.com napisal(a):
Having /tmp mounted noexec,nosuid for security reasons, aptitude
failed to execute postinstall scripts.
The solution was to remount exec /tmp partition and rerun aptitude.
After that I had to add this to /etc/apt/apt.conf or under
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ (depends on your config)
DPkg::Pre-Invoke{"mount -o remount,exec /tmp";};
DPkg::Post-Invoke {"mount -o remount /tmp";};
Good to know! Thanx.
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Installing memtest86 in Lenny fails to copy the actual binary
Howdy, fellow Debianites! I tried to install memtest86 on my Lenny box (using Synaptic). Everything appeared to go smoothly, even a new "memtest" entry wass added to my grub.cfg - but the actual memtest86.bin file was never copied to disk! Interestingly enough, the same happened when I tried to install memtest86+ ... Of course, the "memtest" grub entry now fails with a "file not found" error. Any ideas? Happened to anybody else? Let me just add that my / partition is not full. -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1275152342.2364...@compax
Best home media center in Lenny repos?
Howdie, fellow Debianites! I'm looking for a readily apt-gettable home media center software, to stream media from our main box via our home WLAN to some Nokia phones and a laptop. Any first-hand advice? Elisa and freevo seem to be the only available solutions for the time being. How do they compare? According to http://technomosh.blogspot.com/2009/08/media-center-connectivity-with-nokia.html elisa has no connectivity with Nokia phones? Does that still hold true? By the way, I can't seem to find mythtv in the Lenny repositories; will it be included in Squeeze (or is it just a question of enabling some particular repo I'm not aware of)? -- Many thanx in advance, and a happy day to all! Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1275468837.554...@compax
