Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Passed spam filters
I have the following two filters set: SUBJECT 10 CONTAINS limited time grants SUBJECT 4 CONTAINS $ SUBJECT 4 CONTAINS ,000 However, the following message got through without triggering anything. Any idea why? Subject: LIMITED TIME Grants. Up to $156,000! The first suspect is a whitelist. If that isn't the problem, I would ask if you have seen any of the filters working properly, to see if it may be a problem with the setup of the filters, rather than this specific E-mail. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Passed spam filters
oops. I thought; no WAY this would be on my whitelist. Turns out I had lycos.com on the whitelist. Thanks. At 08:35 AM 7/18/2002, R. Scott Perry wrote: I have the following two filters set: SUBJECT 10 CONTAINS limited time grants SUBJECT 4 CONTAINS $ SUBJECT 4 CONTAINS ,000 However, the following message got through without triggering anything. Any idea why? Subject: LIMITED TIME Grants. Up to $156,000! The first suspect is a whitelist. If that isn't the problem, I would ask if you have seen any of the filters working properly, to see if it may be a problem with the setup of the filters, rather than this specific E-mail. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . ___ Scott MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 9184011 http://www.nerosoft.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Permitting Mail by Word in Subject Line
Is there a way with Declude I can configure to allow these automated e-mail messages through using the Subject Line and the word Quote but not change my weighting system? Thanks. With the filtering in the latest beta release, this can be accomplished. It would require using the weighting system, but wouldn't require changing the weights of any other tests. To do this, you would need to set up a filter, and have the following line in it: SUBJECT -10 CONTAINS Quote This will subtract 10 from the total weight of E-mails with Quote in the subject, helping counteract the weight for the yahoo.com domain, but still preventing some Get the best insurance quote type spam from getting through if it fails a lot of tests. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
[Declude.JunkMail] Newbie
Title: Message Just purchased and people are loving it already! Question/suggestion 1. As a new user I'm a little unclear if some of the questions are related to the current production or beta release. For example, there was a response related to using a negative weighting factor. Would it help to suggest using a tag in the subject line saying "beta xyz" "production abc" to identify what product release is in question? 2. The Production 1.53 junkmail file shows a ROUTETO option in the comments. How does this work? or is this actually for the beta release? 3.The HEADER option states you must specify text. Is the format (ex): WEIGHT10 HEADER "TEST TEXT" or WEIGHT10 HEADER TEST TEST or am I way off base? :) Thanks in advance. == Marv Gordon Technical Support Manager PrimeNet Marketing Services 651-405-4048 ==
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Newbie
1. As a new user I'm a little unclear if some of the questions are related to the current production or beta release. For example, there was a response related to using a negative weighting factor. Would it help to suggest using a tag in the subject line saying beta xyz production abc to identify what product release is in question? Part of the problem is that with something like this (the negative weighting), while the negative weighting has been available since about v1.28, it was likely discussed in conjunction with a beta feature (such as the new filtering). It would be a good idea, though, for people to specifically mention if a feature is in beta when discussing it. 2. The Production 1.53 junkmail file shows a ROUTETO option in the comments. How does this work? or is this actually for the beta release? That's part of the next beta, actually. The config files are constantly updated, and will sometimes have new beta features shown in them that aren't available in the latest released version. 3. The HEADER option states you must specify text. Is the format (ex): WEIGHT10HEADER TEST TEXT or WEIGHT10HEADERTEST TEST or am I way off base? :) Both will work fine. You only need the quotes in there if you want them to appear in the header. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems?
I am having some trouble with my mail server. About once a week, I find my spool folder overflowing. There are usually only about 200 files in that folder, but when this weird thing happens, there are 5000+ in both the spool and in the overflow folder. If there are lots of D*.SMD files in the spool directory, and lots of Q*.SMD files in the overflow directory, then IMail reached its maximum capacity and Declude Queue took over. Without Declude Queue, you would have seen all those files in the spool directory, and they would get sent out more slowly. If I move all the files from the overflow back into the spool, they clear out pretty quickly, but more keep showing up in the overflow at a rate of about 100 per few minutes. What could be causing this? Where do I start to try to figure it out. There is nothing unusual in the imail log and there is nothing about queue in any of the logs. If you run regedit, what is the entry at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\SMTPD32\Parameters\MaxQueProc set to? That controls how many processes can be running at once. If your server is capable, you could try increasing that value. Specifically, Declude Queue will start moving those files to the overflow directory when the maximum number of processes is reached (at which point IMail would normally keep the file in the queue, and not even attempt to deliver it until the next queue run, typically 20-30 minutes later). What you really need to do is find out *why* so much E-mail is being sent/received; in many cases, it is a spammer or other undesirable (such as a mail loop). -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems?
Here's what I did to fix it: 1) I turned off declude junkmail (by renaming the global.cfg file) 2) Moved all the files from the overflow directory to the spool directory They all cleared out and things are back to normal. Now (an hour after i turned junkmail off) I am going to turn junkmail back on and see what happens. From what I could tell, most of the extra email was spam. I could not find any trace of a mail loop, though. Our mail server is a Dell 2450 with 2 866processors and 512mb ram. it has a caching raid controller and some very fast drives. How high do you think I could get away with setting that max processes value? In the imail admin for 7.11 there is an advanced tab under the smtp service. One of the values that can be set there is max processes. Is this the same thing? Thanks, Jim - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems? I am having some trouble with my mail server. About once a week, I find my spool folder overflowing. There are usually only about 200 files in that folder, but when this weird thing happens, there are 5000+ in both the spool and in the overflow folder. If there are lots of D*.SMD files in the spool directory, and lots of Q*.SMD files in the overflow directory, then IMail reached its maximum capacity and Declude Queue took over. Without Declude Queue, you would have seen all those files in the spool directory, and they would get sent out more slowly. If I move all the files from the overflow back into the spool, they clear out pretty quickly, but more keep showing up in the overflow at a rate of about 100 per few minutes. What could be causing this? Where do I start to try to figure it out. There is nothing unusual in the imail log and there is nothing about queue in any of the logs. If you run regedit, what is the entry at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\SMTPD32\Parameters\MaxQ ueProc set to? That controls how many processes can be running at once. If your server is capable, you could try increasing that value. Specifically, Declude Queue will start moving those files to the overflow directory when the maximum number of processes is reached (at which point IMail would normally keep the file in the queue, and not even attempt to deliver it until the next queue run, typically 20-30 minutes later). What you really need to do is find out *why* so much E-mail is being sent/received; in many cases, it is a spammer or other undesirable (such as a mail loop). -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems?
Here's what I did to fix it: 1) I turned off declude junkmail (by renaming the global.cfg file) 2) Moved all the files from the overflow directory to the spool directory They all cleared out and things are back to normal. Now (an hour after i turned junkmail off) I am going to turn junkmail back on and see what happens. Note that you also did something else here -- by turning off Declude JunkMail, you sped up delivery of *new* E-mails, especially if you are using an old spam test that times out (causing the E-mail to be in memory for 10+ extra seconds). That may be a factor. From what I could tell, most of the extra email was spam. It sounds like you may be dealing with a massive distributed spam attack, where a spammer compromises thousands of computers, and sends spam via a dictionary-like attack (sending to thousands and thousands of made-up addresses, hoping a few will receive the E-mail). If you have a nobody alias, this can shut down your server. Our mail server is a Dell 2450 with 2 866processors and 512mb ram. it has a caching raid controller and some very fast drives. How high do you think I could get away with setting that max processes value? It's impossible to say -- only trial and error will tell for sure. The problem is that Microsoft doesn't document the pertinent information about the problem. The problem is that if you go too high, Microsoft will run out of a special type of memory and choke, causing all new processes to fail upon loading. With the best information we can get from Microsoft, it shouldn't be possible for this to happen with recent versions of Declude (although it definitely will happen without Declude). A value of 30 is the default, so if it is lower, you should be able to raise it to 30 with no problem. In the imail admin for 7.11 there is an advanced tab under the smtp service. One of the values that can be set there is max processes. Is this the same thing? Ah, yes -- I forgot about that (a nice new feature). That is the same thing. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems?
I turned it back on and the number of files in the spool started growing at a very fast pace. I'm running declude v1.53 if that helps. We do get lots of dictionary attacks, but they don't actually get in as files do they? don't the emails to bogus users get rejected before they are written to a file? The part about dead tests sounds interesting. Below is a list of the tests that I am running... Thanks, Jim #ORBZIN ip4r inputs.orbz.org 127.0.0.2 5 0 #ORBZOUT ip4r outputs.orbz.org 127.0.0.2 5 0 ORDB ip4r relays.ordb.org * 14 0 OSDUL ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com 127.0.0.3 15 0 OSFORM ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com 127.0.0.8 15 0 OSLIST ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com 127.0.0.7 15 0 OSRELAY ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com 127.0.0.2 14 0 OSSMART ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com 127.0.0.5 15 0 OSSOFT ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com 127.0.0.6 15 0 OSSRC ip4rrelays.osirusoft.com 127.0.0.4 15 0 SPAMCOP ip4r bl.spamcop.net 127.0.0.2 25 0 DSN rhsbl dsn.rfc-ignorant.org 127.0.0.2 15 0 NOABUSE rhsbl abuse.rfc-ignorant.org 127.0.0.4 15 0 NOPOSTMASTER rhsbl postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org 127.0.0.3 15 0 ADULT adult x x 30 0 BADHEADERS badheaders x x 10 0 MAILFROMenvfrom x x 15 0 PERCENT percent x x 15 0 REVDNS revdnsexists x x 15 0 ROUTING spamrouting x x 15 0 SPAMHEADERS spamheaders x x 15 0 SNIFFER external nonzero e:\imail\declude\Sniffer\sniffer.exe 29 0 WEIGHT weight x x 30 0 - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems? Here's what I did to fix it: 1) I turned off declude junkmail (by renaming the global.cfg file) 2) Moved all the files from the overflow directory to the spool directory They all cleared out and things are back to normal. Now (an hour after i turned junkmail off) I am going to turn junkmail back on and see what happens. Note that you also did something else here -- by turning off Declude JunkMail, you sped up delivery of *new* E-mails, especially if you are using an old spam test that times out (causing the E-mail to be in memory for 10+ extra seconds). That may be a factor. From what I could tell, most of the extra email was spam. It sounds like you may be dealing with a massive distributed spam attack, where a spammer compromises thousands of computers, and sends spam via a dictionary-like attack (sending to thousands and thousands of made-up addresses, hoping a few will receive the E-mail). If you have a nobody alias, this can shut down your server. Our mail server is a Dell 2450 with 2 866processors and 512mb ram. it has a caching raid controller and some very fast drives. How high do you think I could get away with setting that max processes value? It's impossible to say -- only trial and error will tell for sure. The problem is that Microsoft doesn't document the pertinent information about the problem. The problem is that if you go too high, Microsoft will run out of a special type of memory and choke, causing all new processes to fail upon loading. With the best information we can get from Microsoft, it shouldn't be possible for this to happen with recent versions of Declude (although it definitely will happen without Declude). A value of 30 is the default, so if it is lower, you should be able to raise it to 30 with no problem. In the imail admin for 7.11 there is an advanced tab under the smtp service. One of the values that can be set there is max processes. Is this the same thing? Ah, yes -- I forgot about that (a nice new feature). That is the same thing. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems?
We do get lots of dictionary attacks, but they don't actually get in as files do they? That depends. If you have a nobody alias, they do come in as files, and are processed by Declude. If you do not have a nobody alias, then they will not be processed (by IMail or Declude). don't the emails to bogus users get rejected before they are written to a file? Yes -- if there is no nobody alias. The part about dead tests sounds interesting. Below is a list of the tests that I am running... All of those tests are still around, so that shouldn't account for the problem. Have you tried looking at the logs to see why there is so much mail? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
DORKZTL:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems?
Do I need to setup the ADULT test in anything save the global config file? I haven't seen that one and have had quite a few porn email come through with a weight of 4 and 6 combined. I figure if I set 'ADULT' to 15 then nothing porn related should get through with a bounce weight of 20. Is this correct thinking? Jim Rooth Klotron, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems? We do get lots of dictionary attacks, but they don't actually get in as files do they? That depends. If you have a nobody alias, they do come in as files, and are processed by Declude. If you do not have a nobody alias, then they will not be processed (by IMail or Declude). don't the emails to bogus users get rejected before they are written to a file? Yes -- if there is no nobody alias. The part about dead tests sounds interesting. Below is a list of the tests that I am running... All of those tests are still around, so that shouldn't account for the problem. Have you tried looking at the logs to see why there is so much mail? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Newbie
A belated welcome. John Tolmachoff IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems?
OK, I confirmed that there are no nobody aliases. I will start pouring through the logs... is there a program that would make that any easier? Thanks, Jim - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems? We do get lots of dictionary attacks, but they don't actually get in as files do they? That depends. If you have a nobody alias, they do come in as files, and are processed by Declude. If you do not have a nobody alias, then they will not be processed (by IMail or Declude). don't the emails to bogus users get rejected before they are written to a file? Yes -- if there is no nobody alias. The part about dead tests sounds interesting. Below is a list of the tests that I am running... All of those tests are still around, so that shouldn't account for the problem. Have you tried looking at the logs to see why there is so much mail? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
KITHRUP:RE: Re: DORKZTL:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems?
Oh well, I was looking for the golden fleece...thanks for your reply. Back to the drawing board. Darn ATT and their DORKZTL!! Jim Rooth Klotron, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 4:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DSN:Re: DORKZTL:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems? Jim, The Adult test is officially undocumented and unsupported. Scott is the only one that can speak to its original intent, status and reasoning or any future development if any. But I believe it was a test idea that Declude, for their own internal reasons, has not continued or slowed development on. The results or detections by that test may not be up to the same level you see from the other tests. My testing has shown minimal results though others on this list may have seen better results. my $.02 Stu At 02:04 PM 07/18/2002 -0500, you wrote: Do I need to setup the ADULT test in anything save the global config file? I haven't seen that one and have had quite a few porn email come through with a weight of 4 and 6 combined. I figure if I set 'ADULT' to 15 then nothing porn related should get through with a bounce weight of 20. Is this correct thinking? Jim Rooth Klotron, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude queue / imail spool problems? We do get lots of dictionary attacks, but they don't actually get in as files do they? That depends. If you have a nobody alias, they do come in as files, and are processed by Declude. If you do not have a nobody alias, then they will not be processed (by IMail or Declude). don't the emails to bogus users get rejected before they are written to a file? Yes -- if there is no nobody alias. The part about dead tests sounds interesting. Below is a list of the tests that I am running... All of those tests are still around, so that shouldn't account for the problem. Have you tried looking at the logs to see why there is so much mail? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . - CSOnline Technical Support hours - Monday thru Saturday 7am - 1am CSOnline Technical Support Numbers Seneca814-677-2447 Clarion 814-227-3638 Meadville 814-425-1696 Parker724-399-1158 http://www.csonline.net http://www.cshowcase.com http://www.learncenter.com - --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
ATT RE: (RE: KITHRUP:RE: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DORKZTL:RE:)
Take a tire iron to them. :-) John Tolmachoff IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .