[Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher than our hold weight. The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of the same domain and other times of different domains. We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Which way to upgrade - SmarterMail or IMail
Goran, I know you mentioned cost as a factor I got this yesterday and thought it was relevant to this conversation. I sitll need to find out what they mean by cross-upgrade. I think to convert my current Imail installation which is not ICS to Imail Server Standalone it is considered a cross grade. Under IMail you can gateway an unlimited amount of domains on a 25 seat license since you have no real users accounts on the box. Your Declude subscription on such a box may only cost you $199.00 per year for this configuration. (Speculation Coming) However, in SmarterMail (Which I am not sure of) do Gateway domains count as a domain under their system? If so your Declude Subscription may end up costing you way more. Anyone running SmarterMail and Gatewaying how do the gateway domains work - do they count? FYI - for those who have not seen the prices for renewals yet. The cost of renewal of IMail Server Standalone: 25 Users-$349.00 100 Users-$495.00 250 Users-$649.00 1000 Users-$849.00 Unlimited Users-$995.00 All these are renewal prices. Here are the crossgrade prices: 25 Users-$435.00 100 Users-$620.00 250 Users-$810.00 1000 Users-$1060.00 Unlimited Users-$1245.00 The determining factor between the renewal price and the crossgrade price is whether you have already migrated to the latest version or not. By migrating over at no cost now, which you are entitled to under your current service agreement, you will already be on the latest version and therefore you would simply be renewing. (renewal price) If you stay on the Imail Professional, you will be charged the crossgrade price, because our system will still read your serial numbers as the older version. You may migrate when you are ready at :http://www.ipswitch.com/netapps/service_migration/ You will be asked the serial number and email address. This needs to be done for each service agreement separately. Darrell Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. - Original Message - From: Goran Jovanovic To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:57 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Which way to upgrade - SmarterMail or IMail Hi All, I am currently running IMail 8.15 HF2 and Declude 4.1.0. I got new server hardware so it is time to do it all over again. I want to incorporate an address validation gateway on the same box as my Declude system. I gateway pretty much all of my traffic and host very few domains (on the same box). Since I want all this to happen on one box I need to have two IPs both of which listen on port 25, I do not want the Declude portion to be listening on a different port. So I would either need to upgrade to IMail 8.2x since it can listen on only one IP or move to SmarterMail 3.3 as it can do the same thing. Having run IMail for a while I am obviously familiar with the product and have scripts etc that have been created for it. Having said that I am not committed to IMail. I have seen the recent thread about the thousands of messages in the declude error folder with SmarterMail. What are people having luck with? Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
Don: We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering department. Linda Pagillo Technical Support Engineer Declude - Your Email security is our businessT - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher than our hold weight. The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of the same domain and other times of different domains. We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the message before Declude kills it. Karl Drugge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Pagillo Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered Don: We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering department. Linda Pagillo Technical Support Engineer Declude - Your Email security is our businessT - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher than our hold weight. The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of the same domain and other times of different domains. We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Which way to upgrade - SmarterMail or IMail
(Speculation Coming) However, in SmarterMail (Which I am not sure of) do Gateway domains count as a domain under their system? If so your Declude Subscription may end up costing you way more. Anyone running SmarterMail and Gatewaying how do the gateway domains work - do they count? The last time I spoke with Smarter Tools about this, they said that the free/demo version could be used as a Smart Host (ie: gateway), since there is only the requirement for one dummy (or real) domain on the box to get it listening. That would work for unlimited domains. I never pursued it because they didn't have a mechanism for handling dictionary attacks and so it was a completely impactical gateway from my point of view. I don't know whether they have fixed that or not. I suspect not, because nobody in support there even understood the concept. -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
Thanks good to know, but I think it started before we began running HiJack. I'll disable hijack, though. Friday, July 14, 2006, 8:37:38 AM, IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ISEKD I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable ISEKD Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I ISEKD can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the ISEKD message before Declude kills it. ISEKD Karl Drugge ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD -Original Message- ISEKD From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ISEKD Linda Pagillo ISEKD Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM ISEKD To: declude.junkmail@declude.com ISEKD Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered ISEKD Don: ISEKD We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering ISEKD department. ISEKD Linda Pagillo ISEKD Technical Support Engineer ISEKD Declude - Your Email security is our businessT ISEKD - Original Message - ISEKD From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISEKD To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com ISEKD Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM ISEKD Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher than our hold weight. The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of the same domain and other times of different domains. We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ISEKD --- ISEKD This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To ISEKD unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and ISEKD type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found ISEKD at http://www.mail-archive.com. ISEKD --- ISEKD This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To ISEKD unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and ISEKD type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found ISEKD at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Which way to upgrade - SmarterMail or IMail
Friday, July 14, 2006, 7:03:29 AM, Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Snip] Dsic The cost of renewal of IMail Server Standalone: Dsic 25 Users-$349.00 Dsic 100 Users-$495.00 Dsic 250 Users-$649.00 Dsic 1000 Users-$849.00 Dsic Unlimited Users-$995.00 [Snip] There are a lot of available alternatives to a $1,000 annual subscription cost. I suspect we'll be history, when, or shortly after, our current support agreement comes up for renewal. Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Config File (as shipped)
Hi, A few questions/comments on the Global.cfg of V4: These config options don't seem to be documented (e.g., in the manual). I can make some assumptions regarding some - but SPAMID? SPAMID OFF ENCODEDURL encodedurl x x 1 0 IPURL ipurl x x 2 0 The default configuration uses the following 3 blacklists. IMP-SPAMip4rspamrbl.imp.ch This one is used, but not documented in http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=97 INTERSILip4rblackholes.intersil.net This one is used, but the site has a note: Undocumented but confirmed!. So may be not a good choice if no one knows what it does? JAMDNSBL This one is used, but the site has the WARNING: Lists IP ranges for some entire countries. Any blacklist that whitelists entirecountries MAY be useful for some of your customers - but it should NOT be active for ALL your customers by default! Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test
I looked through the manual, but didn't see this defined... I want a test that applies 10 points if a certain string appears in the body of a message a number of times... So if, for example, 'replikas' appears 5 times, and I want to apply ten points only if that string is there 5 times or more, what part of the test definition string do I modify ? Which variable determines that ? Or, could I assign it 2 points each time it appears ? And which variable is that ? Numberoftimes filter C:\Declude\sampletest.txt x 10 0 Karl Drugge --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test
If you do not have StopAtFirstHit enabled, then each hit adds the specified points to the total. So, set the MinWeightToFail to 10 and apply 2 point for each hit like: #SKIPIFWEIGHT 10 MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 10 #MAXWEIGHT 15 #STOPATFIRSTHIT BODY 2 CONTAINS replikas Michael Thomas Mathbox 978-683-6718 1-877-MATHBOX (Toll Free) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:52 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test I looked through the manual, but didn't see this defined... I want a test that applies 10 points if a certain string appears in the body of a message a number of times... So if, for example, 'replikas' appears 5 times, and I want to apply ten points only if that string is there 5 times or more, what part of the test definition string do I modify ? Which variable determines that ? Or, could I assign it 2 points each time it appears ? And which variable is that ? Numberoftimes filter C:\Declude\sampletest.txt x 10 0 Karl Drugge --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Config File (as shipped)
Hi, A few months back, I submitted a ticket against ENCODEDURL and IPURL in Declude 3.0.x. They did not work. At that time I was told these were non-functional stubs. Michael Thomas Mathbox 978-683-6718 1-877-MATHBOX (Toll Free) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:25 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Config File (as shipped) Hi, A few questions/comments on the Global.cfg of V4: These config options don't seem to be documented (e.g., in the manual). I can make some assumptions regarding some - but SPAMID? SPAMIDOFF ENCODEDURLencodedurl x x 1 0 IPURL ipurl x x 2 0 The default configuration uses the following 3 blacklists. IMP-SPAM ip4rspamrbl.imp.ch This one is used, but not documented in http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=97 INTERSIL ip4rblackholes.intersil.net This one is used, but the site has a note: Undocumented but confirmed!. So may be not a good choice if no one knows what it does? JAMDNSBL This one is used, but the site has the WARNING: Lists IP ranges for some entire countries. Any blacklist that whitelists entirecountries MAY be useful for some of your customers - but it should NOT be active for ALL your customers by default! Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test
I don't have STOPATFIRSTHIT in my body filter, and it always stops the first time it finds something. Original Message From: Michael Thomas - Mathbox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 2:31 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test If you do not have StopAtFirstHit enabled, then each hit adds the specified points to the total. So, set the MinWeightToFail to 10 and apply 2 point for each hit like: #SKIPIFWEIGHT 10 MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 10 #MAXWEIGHT 15 #STOPATFIRSTHIT BODY 2 CONTAINS replikas Michael Thomas Mathbox 978-683-6718 1-877-MATHBOX (Toll Free) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:52 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test I looked through the manual, but didn't see this defined... I want a test that applies 10 points if a certain string appears in the body of a message a number of times... So if, for example, 'replikas' appears 5 times, and I want to apply ten points only if that string is there 5 times or more, what part of the test definition string do I modify ? Which variable determines that ? Or, could I assign it 2 points each time it appears ? And which variable is that ? Numberoftimes filter C:\Declude\sampletest.txt x 10 0 Karl Drugge --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of users pricing? F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers Number of Users Annual license fee 1-24 US$ 269 25-49 US$ 359 50-99 US$ 449 100-199 US$ 719 200-299 US$ 989 300-399 US$ 1259 400-499 US$ 1529 500-749 US$ 1799 750-999 US$ 2069 1000-1999 US$ 2519 2000-2999 US$ 2969 3000-3999 US$ 3419 4000-4999 US$ 3869 5000-5999 US$ 4499 Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changing the way industry works. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
According to something I read on the Alligate Support forumn at least as far back as March. Interesting that they have never issued much of a press release on it to there customer base. Tho I licensed mine in Februrary of this year so I'm good for a bit. At 12:59 PM 7/14/2006 -0700, you wrote: When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of users pricing? F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers Number of Users Annual license fee 1-24 US$ 269 25-49 US$ 359 50-99 US$ 449 100-199 US$ 719 200-299 US$ 989 300-399 US$ 1259 400-499 US$ 1529 500-749 US$ 1799 750-999 US$ 2069 1000-1999 US$ 2519 2000-2999 US$ 2969 3000-3999 US$ 3419 4000-4999 US$ 3869 5000-5999 US$ 4499 Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changing the way industry works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
I hadn't noticed that before. This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! Fromthe bottom of the page that describes the corporate licences available: http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/ F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail. High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server. E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread. The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable. Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found on www.declude.com and www.mailenable.com. If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers, please visit our order form and take a look at our price lists. NB: Administrators should read question 113 and question 114 in the FAQ section of our Windows support pages before installing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin BilbeeSent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of users pricing? F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers Number of Users Annual license fee 1-24 US$ 269 25-49 US$ 359 50-99 US$ 449 100-199 US$ 719 200-299 US$ 989 300-399 US$ 1259 400-499 US$ 1529 500-749 US$ 1799 750-999 US$ 2069 1000-1999 US$ 2519 2000-2999 US$ 2969 3000-3999 US$ 3419 4000-4999 US$ 3869 5000-5999 US$ 4499 Kevin BilbeeNetwork AdministratorStandard Abrasives, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED]Changing the way industry works. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test
Mine always just counts the one hit, regardless of whether I have 1 or 2. Karl Drugge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 3:05 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test I don't have STOPATFIRSTHIT in my body filter, and it always stops the first time it finds something. Original Message From: Michael Thomas - Mathbox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 2:31 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test If you do not have StopAtFirstHit enabled, then each hit adds the specified points to the total. So, set the MinWeightToFail to 10 and apply 2 point for each hit like: #SKIPIFWEIGHT 10 MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 10 #MAXWEIGHT 15 #STOPATFIRSTHIT BODY 2 CONTAINS replikas Michael Thomas Mathbox 978-683-6718 1-877-MATHBOX (Toll Free) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:52 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test I looked through the manual, but didn't see this defined... I want a test that applies 10 points if a certain string appears in the body of a message a number of times... So if, for example, 'replikas' appears 5 times, and I want to apply ten points only if that string is there 5 times or more, what part of the test definition string do I modify ? Which variable determines that ? Or, could I assign it 2 points each time it appears ? And which variable is that ? Numberoftimes filter C:\Declude\sampletest.txt x 10 0 Karl Drugge --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Wow! It's like one of those MasterCard commercials. Here's an example server based on list prices: SmarterMail Enterprise Edition (Unlimited Domains and Users) - $899 Declude Security Suite for Smartermail Enterprise (Unlimited Domains) - $1750 Annual Subscription F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers (1000-1999 Users) - $2519 Annual License fee Frisk doesn't even mention a price for Unlimited Users. I guess it's like a Ferrari, if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it. Original Message From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:40 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing I hadn't noticed that before. This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that describes the corporate licences available: http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/ F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail. High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server. E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread. The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable. Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found on www.declude.com http://www.declude.com/ and www.mailenable.com http://www.mailenable.com/ . If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers, please visit our order form https://secure.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/buy and take a look at our price lists http://www.f-prot.com/products/prices/price_links.html . NB: Administrators should read question 113 http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/113.html and question 114 http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/114.html in the FAQ section of our Windows support pages http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/ before installing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers. Andrew 8) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of users pricing? F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers Number of Users Annual license fee 1-24 US$ 269 25-49 US$ 359 50-99 US$ 449 100-199 US$ 719 200-299 US$ 989 300-399 US$ 1259 400-499 US$ 1529 500-749 US$ 1799 750-999 US$ 2069 1000-1999 US$ 2519 2000-2999 US$ 2969 3000-3999 US$ 3419 4000-4999 US$ 3869 5000-5999 US$ 4499 Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changing the way industry works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Matt Colbeck, Andrew wrote: I hadn't noticed that before. This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! Fromthe bottom of the page that describes the corporate licences available: http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/ F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail. High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server. E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread. The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable. Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found on www.declude.com and www.mailenable.com. If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers, please visit our order form and take a look at our price lists. NB: Administrators should read question 113 and question 114 in the FAQ section of our Windows support pages before installing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers. Andrew 8) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of users pricing? F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers Number of Users Annual license fee 1-24 US$ 269 25-49 US$ 359 50-99 US$ 449 100-199 US$ 719 200-299 US$ 989 300-399 US$ 1259 400-499 US$ 1529 500-749 US$ 1799 750-999 US$ 2069 1000-1999 US$ 2519 2000-2999
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Suggestions? Markus ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Is "etc" a little one byte special ASCII-char who will disable any blocking mechanism in declude junkmail? Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:26 AMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing You forgot your hardware, Windows Server license, DNS server to replace the crappy Windows one, backup software, prescanning and address validating E-mail Gateway, multiple plug-ins for Declude, many sleepless nights, etc., etc., etc.MattGary Steiner wrote: Wow! It's like one of those MasterCard commercials. Here's an example server based on list prices: SmarterMail Enterprise Edition (Unlimited Domains and Users) - $899 Declude Security Suite for Smartermail Enterprise (Unlimited Domains) - $1750 Annual Subscription F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers (1000-1999 Users) - $2519 Annual License fee Frisk doesn't even mention a price for Unlimited Users. I guess it's like a Ferrari, if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it. Original Message From: "Colbeck, Andrew" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:40 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing I hadn't noticed that before. This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that describes the corporate licences available: http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/ F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail. High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server. E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread. The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable. Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found on www.declude.com http://www.declude.com/ and www.mailenable.com http://www.mailenable.com/ . If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers, please visit our order form https://secure.f-prot.com/cgi-bin/buy and take a look at our price lists http://www.f-prot.com/products/prices/price_links.html . NB: Administrators should read question 113 http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/113.html and question 114 http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/fpwin_faq/114.html in the FAQ section of our Windows support pages http://www.f-prot.com/support/windows/ before installing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers. Andrew 8) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of users pricing? F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers Number of Users Annual license fee 1-24 US$ 269 25-49 US$ 359 50-99 US$ 449 100-199 US$ 719 200-299 US$ 989 300-399 US$ 1259 400-499 US$ 1529 500-749 US$ 1799 750-999 US$ 2069 1000-1999 US$ 2519 2000-2999 US$ 2969 3000-3999 US$ 3419 4000-4999 US$ 3869 5000-5999 US$ 4499 Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changing the way industry works. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
4.2.20 With integrated AVGand included with the Service Agreement / Subscription David B www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus GuflerSent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:34 PMTo: declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away". Suggestions? Markus---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Markus Gufler wrote: This pricing is just another way of saying Go Away. Suggestions? Markus --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. I am going away for sure. Its NO way I will pay that much money to use a command line scanner. There are no difference between the mail server version and the regular version besides the license. Its a rip off. I will NOT spend 1750 bucks on Declude for that matter. I guess I will be busy finding replacements. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Title: Message Thanks for the heads up. Saved me from a heart attack when I went to renew in August. I would swear something is following me around related to major price shifts. Webtrends, Lyris, iMail and now my favorite AV product F-Prot. Guess I will be checking the docs and especially the archives forClamAV and AVG which I have ignored. Pay back lol Mike ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Title: Message As my kids have become fond of saying This sucks Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
Title: Message Sounds like F-Prot has been talking to McCrappy. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:40 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing As my kids have become fond of saying This sucks Goran Jovanovic Omega Network Solutions ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com. ---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.
