RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered

2006-07-14 Thread John T \(Lists\) 
Note, if this is related to Hijack, there either there is a new bug in
Hijack or there is a misconfiguration somewhere, as Hijack only checks
outbound messages. NOTE: If you are doing gateway service rather than using
aliases, you can be caught by this. Another reason that gateway service
(Store and Forward) is no longer a recommended practice.

John T
eServices For You

"Seek, and ye shall find!"


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IS -
> Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge)
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:38 AM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
> 
> I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable
> Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I
> can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the
> message before Declude kills it.
> 
> 
> Karl Drugge
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Linda Pagillo
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
> 
> Don:
> 
> We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering
> department.
> 
> Linda Pagillo
> Technical Support Engineer
> Declude - Your Email security is our businessT
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
> 
> 
> > We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher
> > than our hold weight.
> >
> > The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is
> > addressed to multiple recipients.  These recipients are sometimes of
> > the same domain and other times of different domains.
> >
> > We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this
> > behavior isn't new to this release.  We've noticed it for the last few
> > releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it.
> >
> > Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > 
> > Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
> > (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread John T \(Lists\) 
Title: Message








Sounds like F-Prot has been talking to McCrappy.

 



John T

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"Seek, and ye shall
find!"



 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran
Jovanovic
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:40
PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
F-Prot Licensing

 

As my kids have become fond of saying

 

“This sucks”

 



Goran Jovanovic

Omega Network Solutions










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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Goran Jovanovic 
Title: Message








As my kids have become fond of saying

 

“This sucks”

 



Goran Jovanovic

Omega Network Solutions








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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Michael Jaworski 
Title: Message



Thanks 
for the heads up. Saved me from a heart attack when I went to renew in 
August.  I would swear something is following me around related to major 
price shifts. Webtrends, Lyris, iMail and now my favorite AV product F-Prot. 
 Guess I will be checking the docs and especially the archives 
for ClamAV and AVG which I have ignored. Pay back 

 
Mike

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Heimir Eidskrem 

Markus Gufler wrote:

This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away".
Suggestions?
 
Markus


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I am going away for sure.
Its NO way I will pay that much money to use a command line scanner.
There are no difference between the mail server version and the regular 
version besides the license.


Its a rip off.

I will NOT spend 1750 bucks on Declude for that matter.

I guess I will be busy finding replacements.



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread David Barker 



4.2.20 With integrated AVG and included with the 
Service Agreement / Subscription
David B
www.declude.com


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus GuflerSent: 
Friday, July 14, 2006 6:34 PMTo: 
declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 
Licensing

This 
pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away".
Suggestions?
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Markus Gufler 



Is "etc" a little one byte special ASCII-char who will 
disable any blocking mechanism in declude junkmail?
 
Markus
 
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MattSent: 
  Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:26 AMTo: 
  declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 
  Licensing
  You forgot your hardware, Windows Server license,  DNS server 
  to replace the crappy Windows one, backup software, prescanning and address 
  validating E-mail Gateway, multiple plug-ins for Declude, many sleepless 
  nights, etc., etc., etc.MattGary Steiner wrote: 
  Wow!  It's like one of those MasterCard commercials.

Here's an example server based on list prices:

SmarterMail Enterprise Edition (Unlimited Domains and Users)   -   $899

Declude Security Suite for Smartermail Enterprise (Unlimited Domains)   -   $1750 Annual Subscription

F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers (1000-1999 Users)   -   $2519 Annual License fee

Frisk doesn't even mention a price for Unlimited Users.  I guess it's like a Ferrari, if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it.



 Original Message 
  
From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:40 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

I hadn't noticed that before.  This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so
yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that
describes the corporate licences available:
 
http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/


F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers

To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot
Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license
category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for
corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license
does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail
servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail
services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail.

High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server.
E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread.
The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network
and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail
Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used
with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable.
Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found
on www.declude.com   and www.mailenable.com
 .

If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail
Servers, please visit our order form
  and take a look at our price
lists  .

NB: Administrators should read question 113
  and question
114   in the
FAQ section of our Windows support pages
  before installing F-Prot
Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers.

 
 
Andrew 8)
 


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	From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of Kevin Bilbee
	Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM
	To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
	Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing



	When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a
mail server license for windows on number of users pricing?

	 

F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers

	Number of Users

 

Annual license fee

	1-24

 

US$ 269

	25-49

 

US$ 359

	50-99

 

US$ 449

	100-199

 

US$ 719

	200-299

 

US$ 989

	300-399

 

US$ 1259

	400-499

 

US$ 1529

	500-749

 

US$ 1799

	750-999

 

US$ 2069

	1000-1999

 

US$ 2519

	2000-2999

 

US$ 2969

	3000-3999

 

US$ 3419

	4000-4999

 

US$ 3869

	5000-5999

 

US$ 4499

	 

	 

	Kevin Bilbee
	Network Administrator
	Standard Abrasives, Inc.
	[EMAIL PROTECTED]
	
	Changing the way industry works. 



	 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Markus Gufler 



This 
pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away".
Suggestions?
 
Markus

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Matt 




You forgot your hardware, Windows Server license,  DNS server to
replace the crappy Windows one, backup software, prescanning and
address validating E-mail Gateway, multiple plug-ins for Declude, many
sleepless nights, etc., etc., etc.

Matt


Gary Steiner wrote:

  Wow!  It's like one of those MasterCard commercials.

Here's an example server based on list prices:

SmarterMail Enterprise Edition (Unlimited Domains and Users)   -   $899

Declude Security Suite for Smartermail Enterprise (Unlimited Domains)   -   $1750 Annual Subscription

F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers (1000-1999 Users)   -   $2519 Annual License fee

Frisk doesn't even mention a price for Unlimited Users.  I guess it's like a Ferrari, if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it.



 Original Message 
  
  
From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:40 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

I hadn't noticed that before.  This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so
yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that
describes the corporate licences available:
 
http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/


F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers	

To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot
Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license
category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for
corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license
does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail
servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail
services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail.

High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server.
E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread.
The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network
and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail
Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used
with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable.
Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found
on www.declude.com   and www.mailenable.com
 .

If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail
Servers, please visit our order form
  and take a look at our price
lists  .

NB: Administrators should read question 113
  and question
114   in the
FAQ section of our Windows support pages
  before installing F-Prot
Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers.

 
 
Andrew 8)
 


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	From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of Kevin Bilbee
	Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM
	To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
	Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
	
	

	When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a
mail server license for windows on number of users pricing?

	 

F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers

	Number of Users

 

Annual license fee

	1-24

 

US$ 269

	25-49

 

US$ 359

	50-99

 

US$ 449

	100-199

 

US$ 719

	200-299

 

US$ 989

	300-399

 

US$ 1259

	400-499

 

US$ 1529

	500-749

 

US$ 1799

	750-999

 

US$ 2069

	1000-1999

 

US$ 2519

	2000-2999

 

US$ 2969

	3000-3999

 

US$ 3419

	4000-4999

 

US$ 3869

	5000-5999

 

US$ 4499

	 

	 

	Kevin Bilbee
	Network Administrator
	Standard Abrasives, Inc.
	[EMAIL PROTECTED]
	
	Changing the way industry works. 
	
	

	 


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Matt 




This pricing is just another way of saying "Go Away".

Matt



Colbeck, Andrew wrote:

  
  
  

  I hadn't noticed that before. 
This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so yes, the pricing you quoted is
correct! From the bottom of the page that describes the
corporate licences available:
   
  http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/
  
  F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers 
  To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a
Windows Mail Server a F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers
license is required. This license category differs from the general
F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for corporate users license in that it
covers use that the general license does not: F-Prot Antivirus for
Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail servers, mail relays and mail
gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail services to a network,
either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail.
  High-quality, efficient virus scanning is
essential for any mail server. E-mail is the most common way for
viruses and other malware to spread. The most effective way of stopping
the spread of malware onto a network and beyond is at the server.
F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers includes a Command Line
Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used with third party mail server
software such as Declude and MailEnable. Information on how to use the
software with such programs can be found on www.declude.com and
  www.mailenable.com.
  If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot
Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers, please visit our order form and take a
look at our price
lists.
  NB: Administrators should read question
113 and question
114 in the FAQ section of our Windows support pages
before installing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers.
   
   
  Andrew 8)
   
  
  

 From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing



When did Frisk change the licensing for
F-prot! They now have a mail server license for windows on number of
users pricing?
 

  

  
  F-Prot
Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers
  


  
  

  



Number
of Users


 


Annual
license fee

  
  



1-24


 


US$ 269

  
  



25-49


 


US$ 359

  
  



50-99


 


US$ 449

  
  



100-199


 


US$ 719

  
  



200-299


 


US$ 989

  
  



300-399


 


US$
1259

  
  



400-499


 


US$
1529

  
  



500-749


 


US$
1799

  
  



750-999


 


US$
2069

  
  



1000-1999


 


US$
2519

  
  



2000-2999

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Gary Steiner 
Wow!  It's like one of those MasterCard commercials.

Here's an example server based on list prices:

SmarterMail Enterprise Edition (Unlimited Domains and Users)   -   $899

Declude Security Suite for Smartermail Enterprise (Unlimited Domains)   -   
$1750 Annual Subscription

F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers (1000-1999 Users)   -   $2519 Annual 
License fee

Frisk doesn't even mention a price for Unlimited Users.  I guess it's like a 
Ferrari, if you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it.



 Original Message 
> From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:40 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
> 
> I hadn't noticed that before.  This webpage is pretty darn explicit, so
> yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that
> describes the corporate licences available:
>  
> http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/
> 
> 
> F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers
> 
> To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail Server a F-Prot
> Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This license
> category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for
> corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license
> does not: F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail
> servers, mail relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail
> services to a network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail.
> 
> High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for any mail server.
> E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to spread.
> The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network
> and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail
> Servers includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used
> with third party mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable.
> Information on how to use the software with such programs can be found
> on www.declude.com   and www.mailenable.com
>  .
> 
> If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail
> Servers, please visit our order form
>   and take a look at our price
> lists  .
> 
> NB: Administrators should read question 113
>   and question
> 114   in the
> FAQ section of our Windows support pages
>   before installing F-Prot
> Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers.
> 
>  
>  
> Andrew 8)
>  
> 
> 
>   _  
> 
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Kevin Bilbee
>   Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PM
>   To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
>   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing
>
>
> 
>   When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a
> mail server license for windows on number of users pricing?
> 
>
> 
> F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers
> 
>   Number of Users
> 
>  
> 
> Annual license fee
> 
>   1-24
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 269
> 
>   25-49
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 359
> 
>   50-99
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 449
> 
>   100-199
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 719
> 
>   200-299
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 989
> 
>   300-399
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 1259
> 
>   400-499
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 1529
> 
>   500-749
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 1799
> 
>   750-999
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 2069
> 
>   1000-1999
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 2519
> 
>   2000-2999
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 2969
> 
>   3000-3999
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 3419
> 
>   4000-4999
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 3869
> 
>   5000-5999
> 
>  
> 
> US$ 4499
> 
>
> 
>
> 
>   Kevin Bilbee
>   Network Administrator
>   Standard Abrasives, Inc.
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   
>   Changing the way industry works. 
>
>
> 
>
> 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test

2006-07-14 Thread IS - Systems Eng. \(Karl Drugge\) 
Mine always just counts the one hit, regardless of whether I have 1 or
2.



Karl Drugge
 
 
 
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary
Steiner
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 3:05 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test

I don't have STOPATFIRSTHIT in my body filter, and it always stops the
first time it finds something.


 Original Message 
> From: "Michael Thomas - Mathbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 2:31 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test
> 
> If you do not have StopAtFirstHit enabled, then each hit adds the
specified
> points to the total. So, set the MinWeightToFail to 10 and apply 2
point for
> each hit like:
> 
> #SKIPIFWEIGHT 10
> MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 10
> #MAXWEIGHT 15
> #STOPATFIRSTHIT
> 
> BODY 2 CONTAINS replikas
> 
> Michael Thomas
> Mathbox
> 978-683-6718
> 1-877-MATHBOX (Toll Free)
>   
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge)
> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:52 PM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test
> > 
> > I looked through the manual, but didn't see this defined...
> > 
> > I want a test that applies 10 points if a certain string 
> > appears in the
> > body of a message a number of times... 
> > 
> > So if, for example, 'replikas' appears 5 times, and I want to 
> > apply ten
> > points only if that string is there 5 times or more, what part of
the
> > test definition string do I modify ? Which variable determines that
?
> > Or, could I assign it 2 points each time it appears ? And 
> > which variable
> > is that ?
> > 
> > Numberoftimes   filter  C:\Declude\sampletest.txt   x
10
> > 0
> > 
> > 
> > Karl Drugge
> >  
> > 
> > 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Colbeck, Andrew 



I hadn't noticed that before.  This webpage is pretty 
darn explicit, so yes, the pricing you quoted is correct! From the bottom of the page that 
describes the corporate licences available:
 
http://www.f-prot.com/products/corporate_users/win/
F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers 
To use the F-Prot Antivirus scanner on a Windows Mail 
Server a F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers license is required. This 
license category differs from the general F-Prot Antivirus for Windows for 
corporate users license in that it covers use that the general license does not: 
F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers applies to mail servers, mail 
relays and mail gateways, i.e. computers that provide mail services to a 
network, either for incoming or for outgoing e-mail.

High-quality, efficient virus scanning is essential for 
any mail server. E-mail is the most common way for viruses and other malware to 
spread. The most effective way of stopping the spread of malware onto a network 
and beyond is at the server. F-Prot Antivirus for Windows on Mail Servers 
includes a Command Line Scanner (fpcmd.exe) that can be used with third party 
mail server software such as Declude and MailEnable. Information on how to use 
the software with such programs can be found on www.declude.com and www.mailenable.com.

If you are interested in purchasing F-Prot Antivirus for 
Windows on Mail Servers, please visit our order form and take a look at 
our price 
lists.

NB: Administrators should read question 113 
and question 
114 in the FAQ section of our Windows support pages before 
installing F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers.
 
 
Andrew 8)
 

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin BilbeeSent: 
  Friday, July 14, 2006 1:00 PMTo: 
  declude.junkmail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot 
  Licensing
  
  
  When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now 
  have a mail server license for windows on number of users 
  pricing?
   
  


  
F-Prot 
Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers

  

  
  


  Number 
  of Users

   

  Annual 
  license fee
  


  1-24

   

  US$ 
  269
  


  25-49

   

  US$ 
  359
  


  50-99

   

  US$ 
  449
  


  100-199

   

  US$ 
  719
  


  200-299

   

  US$ 
  989
  


  300-399

   

  US$ 
  1259
  


  400-499

   

  US$ 
  1529
  


  500-749

   

  US$ 
  1799
  


  750-999

   

  US$ 
  2069
  


  1000-1999

   

  US$ 
  2519
  


  2000-2999

   

  US$ 
  2969
  


  3000-3999

   

  US$ 
  3419
  


  4000-4999

   

  US$ 
  3869
  


  5000-5999

   

  US$ 
  4499
   
   
  Kevin 
  BilbeeNetwork AdministratorStandard Abrasives, 
  Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED]Changing 
  the way industry works. 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Ncl Admin 
According to something I read on the Alligate Support forumn at least as
far back as March.  Interesting that they have never issued much of a press
release on it to there customer base.  Tho I licensed mine in Februrary of
this year so I'm good for a bit.



At 12:59 PM 7/14/2006 -0700, you wrote: 


When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now have a mail server
license for windows on number of users pricing?

 
   

F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers
   
  


Number of Users
   

 
   

Annual license fee
   
   

1-24
   

 
   

US$ 269
   
   

25-49
   

 
   

US$ 359
   
   

50-99
   

 
   

US$ 449
   
   

100-199
   

 
   

US$ 719
   
   

200-299
   

 
   

US$ 989
   
   

300-399
   

 
   

US$ 1259
   
   

400-499
   

 
   

US$ 1529
   
   

500-749
   

 
   

US$ 1799
   
   

750-999
   

 
   

US$ 2069
   
   

1000-1999
   

 
   

US$ 2519
   
   

2000-2999
   

 
   

US$ 2969
   
   

3000-3999
   

 
   

US$ 3419
   
   

4000-4999
   

 
   

US$ 3869
   
   

5000-5999
   

 
   

US$ 4499
   
   

 

 

Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Changing the way industry works. 



 

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[Declude.JunkMail] F-Prot Licensing

2006-07-14 Thread Kevin Bilbee 








When did Frisk change the licensing for F-prot! They now
have a mail server license for windows on number of users pricing?

 


 
  
  F-Prot Antivirus for Windows Mail Servers
  
 
 
  
  
   


Number
of Users


 


Annual
license fee

   
   


1-24


 


US$
269

   
   


25-49


 


US$
359

   
   


50-99


 


US$
449

   
   


100-199


 


US$
719

   
   


200-299


 


US$
989

   
   


300-399


 


US$
1259

   
   


400-499


 


US$
1529

   
   


500-749


 


US$
1799

   
   


750-999


 


US$
2069

   
   


1000-1999


 


US$
2519

   
   


2000-2999


 


US$
2969

   
   


3000-3999


 


US$
3419

   
   


4000-4999


 


US$
3869

   
   


5000-5999


 


US$
4499

   
  
  
 


 

 

Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Which way to upgrade - SmarterMail or IMail

2006-07-14 Thread Goran Jovanovic 
> > (Speculation Coming) However, in SmarterMail (Which I am not sure
of) do
> > Gateway domains count as a domain under their system?  If so your
> Declude
> > Subscription may end up costing you way more.  Anyone running
> SmarterMail
> > and Gatewaying how do the gateway domains work - do they count?
> 
> 
> The last time I spoke with Smarter Tools about this, they said that
the
> free/demo version could be used as a "Smart Host" (ie: gateway), since
> there
> is only the requirement for one dummy (or real) domain on the box to
get
> it
> listening. That would work for unlimited domains. I never pursued it
> because
> they didn't have a mechanism for handling dictionary attacks and so it
was
> a
> completely impactical gateway from my point of view. I don't know
whether
> they have fixed that or not. I suspect not, because nobody in support
> there
> even understood the concept.
> 

Smartertools confirmed that I could use the free (1 domain/10 users) as
an unlimited gateway. I am putting in a gateway in front of my Declude
process to handle address validation. NOTE that IMail will also gateway
an unlimited number of domains as well.

Goran 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test

2006-07-14 Thread Gary Steiner 
I don't have STOPATFIRSTHIT in my body filter, and it always stops the first 
time it finds something.


 Original Message 
> From: "Michael Thomas - Mathbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 2:31 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test
> 
> If you do not have StopAtFirstHit enabled, then each hit adds the specified
> points to the total. So, set the MinWeightToFail to 10 and apply 2 point for
> each hit like:
> 
> #SKIPIFWEIGHT 10
> MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 10
> #MAXWEIGHT 15
> #STOPATFIRSTHIT
> 
> BODY 2 CONTAINS replikas
> 
> Michael Thomas
> Mathbox
> 978-683-6718
> 1-877-MATHBOX (Toll Free)
>   
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> > Behalf Of IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge)
> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:52 PM
> > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test
> > 
> > I looked through the manual, but didn't see this defined...
> > 
> > I want a test that applies 10 points if a certain string 
> > appears in the
> > body of a message a number of times... 
> > 
> > So if, for example, 'replikas' appears 5 times, and I want to 
> > apply ten
> > points only if that string is there 5 times or more, what part of the
> > test definition string do I modify ? Which variable determines that ?
> > Or, could I assign it 2 points each time it appears ? And 
> > which variable
> > is that ?
> > 
> > Numberoftimes   filter  C:\Declude\sampletest.txt   x   10
> > 0
> > 
> > 
> > Karl Drugge
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Config File (as shipped)

2006-07-14 Thread Michael Thomas - Mathbox 
Hi,

A few months back, I submitted a ticket against ENCODEDURL and IPURL in
Declude 3.0.x. They did not work. At that time I was told these were
non-functional stubs.


Michael Thomas
Mathbox
978-683-6718
1-877-MATHBOX (Toll Free)
  

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:25 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Config File (as shipped)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A few questions/comments on the Global.cfg of V4:
> 
> These config options don't seem to be documented (e.g., in 
> the manual). I
> can make some assumptions regarding some - but SPAMID?
> 
> SPAMIDOFF
> ENCODEDURLencodedurl  x   x   1   0
> IPURL ipurl   x   x   2   0
> 
> 
> The default configuration uses the following 3 blacklists.
> 
> IMP-SPAM  ip4rspamrbl.imp.ch  
> This one is used, but not documented in
> http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=97
> 
> INTERSIL  ip4rblackholes.intersil.net 
> This one is used, but the site has a note: "Undocumented but 
> confirmed!".
> So may be not a good choice if no one knows what it does?
> 
> JAMDNSBL
> This one is used, but the site has the WARNING: Lists IP 
> ranges for some
> entire countries.
> Any blacklist that whitelists entirecountries MAY be useful 
> for some of your
> customers - but it should NOT be active for ALL your 
> customers "by default"!
> 
> Best Regards
> Andy Schmidt
> 
> Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> Fax:+1 201 934-9206 
> 
> 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test

2006-07-14 Thread Michael Thomas - Mathbox 
If you do not have StopAtFirstHit enabled, then each hit adds the specified
points to the total. So, set the MinWeightToFail to 10 and apply 2 point for
each hit like:

#SKIPIFWEIGHT 10
MINWEIGHTTOFAIL 10
#MAXWEIGHT 15
#STOPATFIRSTHIT

BODY 2 CONTAINS replikas

Michael Thomas
Mathbox
978-683-6718
1-877-MATHBOX (Toll Free)
  

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge)
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:52 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test
> 
> I looked through the manual, but didn't see this defined...
> 
> I want a test that applies 10 points if a certain string 
> appears in the
> body of a message a number of times... 
> 
> So if, for example, 'replikas' appears 5 times, and I want to 
> apply ten
> points only if that string is there 5 times or more, what part of the
> test definition string do I modify ? Which variable determines that ?
> Or, could I assign it 2 points each time it appears ? And 
> which variable
> is that ?
> 
> Numberoftimes filter  C:\Declude\sampletest.txt   x   10
> 0
> 
> 
> Karl Drugge
>  
> 
> 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Number of times per test

2006-07-14 Thread IS - Systems Eng. \(Karl Drugge\) 
I looked through the manual, but didn't see this defined...

I want a test that applies 10 points if a certain string appears in the
body of a message a number of times... 

So if, for example, 'replikas' appears 5 times, and I want to apply ten
points only if that string is there 5 times or more, what part of the
test definition string do I modify ? Which variable determines that ?
Or, could I assign it 2 points each time it appears ? And which variable
is that ?

Numberoftimes   filter  C:\Declude\sampletest.txt   x   10
0


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[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Config File (as shipped)

2006-07-14 Thread Andy Schmidt 
Hi,

A few questions/comments on the Global.cfg of V4:

These config options don't seem to be documented (e.g., in the manual). I
can make some assumptions regarding some - but SPAMID?

SPAMID  OFF
ENCODEDURL  encodedurl  x   x   1   0
IPURL   ipurl   x   x   2   0


The default configuration uses the following 3 blacklists.

IMP-SPAMip4rspamrbl.imp.ch  
This one is used, but not documented in
http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=97

INTERSILip4rblackholes.intersil.net 
This one is used, but the site has a note: "Undocumented but confirmed!".
So may be not a good choice if no one knows what it does?

JAMDNSBL
This one is used, but the site has the WARNING: Lists IP ranges for some
entire countries.
Any blacklist that whitelists entirecountries MAY be useful for some of your
customers - but it should NOT be active for ALL your customers "by default"!

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Which way to upgrade - SmarterMail or IMail

2006-07-14 Thread Don Brown 
Friday, July 14, 2006, 7:03:29 AM, Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
[Snip]

Dsic> The cost of renewal of IMail Server Standalone:

Dsic> 25 Users-$349.00
Dsic> 100 Users-$495.00
Dsic> 250 Users-$649.00
Dsic> 1000 Users-$849.00
Dsic> Unlimited Users-$995.00

[Snip]

There are a lot of available alternatives to a $1,000 annual
subscription cost. I suspect we'll be history, when, or shortly after,
our current support agreement comes up for renewal.

Thanks,


Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered

2006-07-14 Thread Don Brown 
Thanks good to know, but I think it started before we began running
HiJack.  I'll disable hijack, though.


Friday, July 14, 2006, 8:37:38 AM, IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
ISEKD> I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable
ISEKD> Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I
ISEKD> can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the
ISEKD> message before Declude kills it.


ISEKD> Karl Drugge
ISEKD>  
ISEKD>  
ISEKD>  
ISEKD>  
ISEKD>  
ISEKD>  

ISEKD> -Original Message-
ISEKD> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
ISEKD> Linda Pagillo
ISEKD> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM
ISEKD> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
ISEKD> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered

ISEKD> Don:

ISEKD> We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering
ISEKD> department.

ISEKD> Linda Pagillo
ISEKD> Technical Support Engineer
ISEKD> Declude - Your Email security is our businessT

ISEKD> - Original Message - 
ISEKD> From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ISEKD> To: 
ISEKD> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM
ISEKD> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered


>> We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher
>> than our hold weight.
>>
>> The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is
>> addressed to multiple recipients.  These recipients are sometimes of
>> the same domain and other times of different domains.
>>
>> We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this
>> behavior isn't new to this release.  We've noticed it for the last few
>> releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it.
>>
>> Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> 
>> Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
>> (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049
>> 
>>
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Which way to upgrade - SmarterMail or IMail

2006-07-14 Thread Dave Doherty 

(Speculation Coming) However, in SmarterMail (Which I am not sure of) do
Gateway domains count as a domain under their system?  If so your Declude
Subscription may end up costing you way more.  Anyone running SmarterMail
and Gatewaying how do the gateway domains work - do they count?



The last time I spoke with Smarter Tools about this, they said that the 
free/demo version could be used as a "Smart Host" (ie: gateway), since there 
is only the requirement for one dummy (or real) domain on the box to get it 
listening. That would work for unlimited domains. I never pursued it because 
they didn't have a mechanism for handling dictionary attacks and so it was a 
completely impactical gateway from my point of view. I don't know whether 
they have fixed that or not. I suspect not, because nobody in support there 
even understood the concept.


-Dave Doherty
Skywaves, Inc.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered

2006-07-14 Thread IS - Systems Eng. \(Karl Drugge\) 
I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable
Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I
can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the
message before Declude kills it.


Karl Drugge
 
 
 
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Linda Pagillo
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered

Don:

We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering
department.

Linda Pagillo
Technical Support Engineer
Declude - Your Email security is our businessT

- Original Message - 
From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered


> We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher
> than our hold weight.
>
> The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is
> addressed to multiple recipients.  These recipients are sometimes of
> the same domain and other times of different domains.
>
> We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this
> behavior isn't new to this release.  We've noticed it for the last few
> releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it.
>
> Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> 
> Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
> (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049
> 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered

2006-07-14 Thread Linda Pagillo 
Don:

We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering
department.

Linda Pagillo
Technical Support Engineer
Declude - Your Email security is our businessT

- Original Message - 
From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered


> We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher
> than our hold weight.
>
> The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is
> addressed to multiple recipients.  These recipients are sometimes of
> the same domain and other times of different domains.
>
> We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this
> behavior isn't new to this release.  We've noticed it for the last few
> releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it.
>
> Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> 
> Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
> (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049
> 
>
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Which way to upgrade - SmarterMail or IMail

2006-07-14 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
Goran,

I know you mentioned cost as a factor I got this yesterday and thought it 
was relevant to this conversation.  I sitll need to find out what they mean 
by cross-upgrade.  I think to convert my current "Imail" installation which 
is not ICS to "Imail Server Standalone" it is considered a cross grade.

Under IMail you can gateway an unlimited amount of domains on a 25 seat 
license since you have no real users accounts on the box.  Your Declude 
subscription on such a box may only cost you $199.00 per year for this 
configuration.

(Speculation Coming) However, in SmarterMail (Which I am not sure of) do 
Gateway domains count as a domain under their system?  If so your Declude 
Subscription may end up costing you way more.  Anyone running SmarterMail 
and Gatewaying how do the gateway domains work - do they count?

FYI - for those who have not seen the prices for renewals yet.

The cost of renewal of IMail Server Standalone:

25 Users-$349.00
100 Users-$495.00
250 Users-$649.00
1000 Users-$849.00
Unlimited Users-$995.00

All these are renewal prices. Here are the crossgrade prices:

25 Users-$435.00
100 Users-$620.00
250 Users-$810.00
1000 Users-$1060.00
Unlimited Users-$1245.00

The determining factor between the renewal price and the crossgrade price is 
whether you have already migrated to the latest version or not.

By migrating over at no cost now, which you are entitled to under your 
current service agreement, you will already be on the latest version and 
therefore you would simply be renewing. (renewal price) If you stay on the 
Imail Professional, you will be charged the crossgrade price, because our 
system will still read your serial numbers as the older version.

You may migrate when you are ready at
:http://www.ipswitch.com/netapps/service_migration/
You will be asked the serial number and email address. This needs to be done 
for each service agreement separately.

Darrell


Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers.

- Original Message - 
From: Goran Jovanovic
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:57 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Which way to upgrade - SmarterMail or IMail


Hi All,

I am currently running IMail 8.15 HF2 and Declude 4.1.0. I got new server 
hardware so it is time to do it all over again. I want to incorporate an 
address validation gateway on the same box as my Declude system. I gateway 
pretty much all of my traffic and host very few domains (on the same box). 
Since I want all this to happen on one box I need to have two IPs both of 
which listen on port 25, I do not want the Declude portion to be listening 
on a different port.

So I would either need to upgrade to IMail 8.2x since it can listen on only 
one IP or move to SmarterMail 3.3 as it can do the same thing. Having run 
IMail for a while I am obviously familiar with the product and have scripts 
etc that have been created for it. Having said that I am not committed to 
IMail.

I have seen the recent thread about the thousands of messages in the declude 
error folder with SmarterMail.

What are people having luck with?

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks

Goran Jovanovic
Omega Network Solutions

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[Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered

2006-07-14 Thread Don Brown 
We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher
than our hold weight.

The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is
addressed to multiple recipients.  These recipients are sometimes of
the same domain and other times of different domains.

We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this
behavior isn't new to this release.  We've noticed it for the last few
releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it.

Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky?

Thanks,



Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
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