RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service
This is totally off topic but hope you can help! Client has W2K server, with modem & ADSL. The ADSL connection has been down for a few days so I was going to setup the modem for internet access. Before doing so I installed Norton Internet Security so that the modem connection would be protected. After the restart the machine sits on 'Preparing Network Connections' screen. I booted in safe mode so that I may un-install Norton Internet Security, but because the Windows Installer service does not run in Safe mode I can not uninstall the software. The event viewer also shows a lot of services failing to start because the TCP/IP protocol driver has failed to start. I presume some network driver file has been overwritten or a registry entry changed. Does anybody know what I can do to revive the TCP/IP protocol driver? Many thanks!!! Lyndon. Email checked by UKsubnet anti-virus service To prevent email abuse & block spam contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44(0)8712360301 Web: www.uksubnet.net Fax: +44(0)8712360300 Powered by UKsubnet Internet Service Provider Business to Business Internet (ISP) --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service
While in safe mode, you can disable services and view the event log. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lyndon Eaton > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:17 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service > > This is totally off topic but hope you can help! > > Client has W2K server, with modem & ADSL. The ADSL connection has been > down for a few days so I was going to setup the modem for internet > access. > > Before doing so I installed Norton Internet Security so that the modem > connection would be protected. > > After the restart the machine sits on 'Preparing Network Connections' > screen. I booted in safe mode so that I may un-install Norton Internet > Security, but because the Windows Installer service does not run in Safe > mode I can not uninstall the software. The event viewer also shows a lot > of services failing to start because the TCP/IP protocol driver has > failed to start. > > I presume some network driver file has been overwritten or a registry > entry changed. Does anybody know what I can do to revive the TCP/IP > protocol driver? > > Many thanks!!! > Lyndon. > > > > > > Email checked by UKsubnet anti-virus service > To prevent email abuse & block spam > contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tel: +44(0)8712360301 Web: www.uksubnet.net > Fax: +44(0)8712360300 > > Powered by UKsubnet Internet Service Provider > Business to Business Internet (ISP) > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service
I did manage to fix the problem. Here's what I did in-case you get a similar problem: In safe mode you can set services to start manually/automatically/disable - but you can not start services while in safe mode. Norton Internet Security must grab the NIC at quite a low level, as after I disabled the Norton services, the machine still hung on normal boot. So what I wanted to do is uninstall NSI. To do this the Windows Installer needs to be running - which in Safe Mode it does not. To be able to start a service in Safe Mode, you have to edit the registry- HKLM\System\CCS\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal and add a new key by the name of the services registry reference. In my case the Windows Installer Service is MSIServer, so I added a key called MSIServer, and changed the default value to 'Service'. After adding this key in the registry, the next time you boot in SafeMode you are able to start that particular service manually - in my case the Windows Installer. In Add/Remove Programs I could then uninstall NSI, and my system them booted fine! Regards, Lyndon. > -Original Message- > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 May 2004 18:09 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service > > > While in safe mode, you can disable services and view the event log. > > John Tolmachoff > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > eServices For You > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Lyndon Eaton > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:17 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service > > > > This is totally off topic but hope you can help! > > > > Client has W2K server, with modem & ADSL. The ADSL > connection has been > > down for a few days so I was going to setup the modem for internet > > access. > > > > Before doing so I installed Norton Internet Security so > that the modem > > connection would be protected. > > > > After the restart the machine sits on 'Preparing Network > Connections' > > screen. I booted in safe mode so that I may un-install > Norton Internet > > Security, but because the Windows Installer service does not run in > > Safe mode I can not uninstall the software. The event viewer also > > shows a lot of services failing to start because the TCP/IP > protocol > > driver has failed to start. > > > > I presume some network driver file has been overwritten or > a registry > > entry changed. Does anybody know what I can do to revive the TCP/IP > > protocol driver? > > > > Many thanks!!! > > Lyndon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Email checked by UKsubnet anti-virus service > > To prevent email abuse & block spam > > contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Tel: +44(0)8712360301 Web: www.uksubnet.net > > Fax: +44(0)8712360300 > > > > Powered by UKsubnet Internet Service Provider > > Business to Business Internet (ISP) > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To > unsubscribe, > > just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Email checked by UKsubnet anti-virus service To prevent email abuse & block spam contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44(0)8712360301 Web: www.uksubnet.net Fax: +44(0)8712360300 Powered by UKsubnet Internet Service Provider Business to Business Internet (ISP) Email checked by UKsubnet anti-virus service To prevent email abuse & block spam contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44(0)8712360301 Web: www.uksubnet.net Fax: +44(0)8712360300 Powered by UKsubnet Internet Service Provider Business to Business Internet (ISP) --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service
www.winternals.com ERD commander is an awesome tool, helps change service/device startup values, registry, connect through the network to other machines, chkdsk, etc etc... Might take a look at that, helps me a TON. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyndon Eaton Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service I did manage to fix the problem. Here's what I did in-case you get a similar problem: In safe mode you can set services to start manually/automatically/disable - but you can not start services while in safe mode. Norton Internet Security must grab the NIC at quite a low level, as after I disabled the Norton services, the machine still hung on normal boot. So what I wanted to do is uninstall NSI. To do this the Windows Installer needs to be running - which in Safe Mode it does not. To be able to start a service in Safe Mode, you have to edit the registry- HKLM\System\CCS\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal and add a new key by the name of the services registry reference. In my case the Windows Installer Service is MSIServer, so I added a key called MSIServer, and changed the default value to 'Service'. After adding this key in the registry, the next time you boot in SafeMode you are able to start that particular service manually - in my case the Windows Installer. In Add/Remove Programs I could then uninstall NSI, and my system them booted fine! Regards, Lyndon. > -Original Message- > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 May 2004 18:09 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service > > > While in safe mode, you can disable services and view the event log. > > John Tolmachoff > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > eServices For You > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Lyndon Eaton > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:17 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service > > > > This is totally off topic but hope you can help! > > > > Client has W2K server, with modem & ADSL. The ADSL > connection has been > > down for a few days so I was going to setup the modem for internet > > access. > > > > Before doing so I installed Norton Internet Security so > that the modem > > connection would be protected. > > > > After the restart the machine sits on 'Preparing Network > Connections' > > screen. I booted in safe mode so that I may un-install > Norton Internet > > Security, but because the Windows Installer service does not run in > > Safe mode I can not uninstall the software. The event viewer also > > shows a lot of services failing to start because the TCP/IP > protocol > > driver has failed to start. > > > > I presume some network driver file has been overwritten or > a registry > > entry changed. Does anybody know what I can do to revive the TCP/IP > > protocol driver? > > > > Many thanks!!! > > Lyndon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Email checked by UKsubnet anti-virus service > > To prevent email abuse & block spam > > contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Tel: +44(0)8712360301 Web: www.uksubnet.net > > Fax: +44(0)8712360300 > > > > Powered by UKsubnet Internet Service Provider > > Business to Business Internet (ISP) > > > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To > unsubscribe, > > just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Email checked by UKsubnet anti-virus service To prevent email abuse & block spam contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44(0)8712360301 Web: www.uksubnet.net Fax: +44(0)8712360300 Powered by UKsubnet Internet Service Provider Business to Business Internet (ISP)
RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service
Glad it worked for you. However, word of caution. I would change that registry back. The reason Windows Installer is not usable in Safe Mode is some programs being installed or uninstalled in safe mode can cause problems. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lyndon Eaton > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 8:34 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service > > I did manage to fix the problem. Here's what I did in-case you get a > similar problem: > > In safe mode you can set services to start > manually/automatically/disable - but you can not start services while in > safe mode. Norton Internet Security must grab the NIC at quite a low > level, as after I disabled the Norton services, the machine still hung > on normal boot. > > So what I wanted to do is uninstall NSI. To do this the Windows > Installer needs to be running - which in Safe Mode it does not. To be > able to start a service in Safe Mode, you have to edit the registry- > HKLM\System\CCS\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal and add a new key by the name > of the services registry reference. In my case the Windows Installer > Service is MSIServer, so I added a key called MSIServer, and changed the > default value to 'Service'. > > After adding this key in the registry, the next time you boot in > SafeMode you are able to start that particular service manually - in my > case the Windows Installer. In Add/Remove Programs I could then > uninstall NSI, and my system them booted fine! > > Regards, > Lyndon. > > > -Original Message- > > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 19 May 2004 18:09 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service > > > > > > While in safe mode, you can disable services and view the event log. > > > > John Tolmachoff > > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > > eServices For You > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf Of Lyndon Eaton > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:17 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service > > > > > > This is totally off topic but hope you can help! > > > > > > Client has W2K server, with modem & ADSL. The ADSL > > connection has been > > > down for a few days so I was going to setup the modem for internet > > > access. > > > > > > Before doing so I installed Norton Internet Security so > > that the modem > > > connection would be protected. > > > > > > After the restart the machine sits on 'Preparing Network > > Connections' > > > screen. I booted in safe mode so that I may un-install > > Norton Internet > > > Security, but because the Windows Installer service does not run in > > > Safe mode I can not uninstall the software. The event viewer also > > > shows a lot of services failing to start because the TCP/IP > > protocol > > > driver has failed to start. > > > > > > I presume some network driver file has been overwritten or > > a registry > > > entry changed. Does anybody know what I can do to revive the TCP/IP > > > protocol driver? > > > > > > Many thanks!!! > > > Lyndon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Email checked by UKsubnet anti-virus service > > > To prevent email abuse & block spam > > > contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Tel: +44(0)8712360301 Web: www.uksubnet.net > > > Fax: +44(0)8712360300 > > > > > > Powered by UKsubnet Internet Service Provider > > > Business to Business Internet (ISP) > > > > > > > > > --- > > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > > (http://www.declude.com)] > > > > > > --- > > > This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, > > > just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > > type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found > > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > --- > > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail ca
RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service
> ERD commander is an awesome tool, helps change service/device startup > values, registry, connect through the network to other machines, chkdsk, etc > etc... > > Might take a look at that, helps me a TON. I was going to recommend that, as I have the 2002 version, but their new licensing terms has priced the newer version completely out of reach for the average small business. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service
I also have the 2002 Admin pack. Back then we paid $999 for it. I have saved several shared servers with it more than covering the $999 but now it is closer to $5000 I believe. It may be worth it as well. All their products are great. Go to the freeware site sysinternals.com and get all their tools. Even the simple Bginfo screen background is the handiest utility. It builds a very simply BMP that has all your system info and becoms the desktop background. Nothing fancy just the info. You can run it on boot up or schedule it to update every few hours if needed. Great on desktops and servers. DC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service > ERD commander is an awesome tool, helps change service/device startup > values, registry, connect through the network to other machines, > chkdsk, etc > etc... > > Might take a look at that, helps me a TON. I was going to recommend that, as I have the 2002 version, but their new licensing terms has priced the newer version completely out of reach for the average small business. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service
I use the BGINFO on all the servers I support. It is absolutely great especially since I terminal server into many at a time and it very clearly tells me what server I am on. Also tells the less sophisticated network admins which server they are on when using the KVM switch. Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Cohn > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service > > I also have the 2002 Admin pack. Back then we paid $999 for it. > > I have saved several shared servers with it more than covering the $999 > but > now it is closer to $5000 I believe. > > It may be worth it as well. > > All their products are great. Go to the freeware site sysinternals.com > and > get all their tools. > > Even the simple Bginfo screen background is the handiest utility. It > builds > a very simply BMP that has all your system info and becoms the desktop > background. Nothing fancy just the info. You can run it on boot up or > schedule it to update every few hours if needed. Great on desktops and > servers. > > DC > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff > (Lists) > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service > > > ERD commander is an awesome tool, helps change service/device startup > > values, registry, connect through the network to other machines, > > chkdsk, > etc > > etc... > > > > Might take a look at that, helps me a TON. > > I was going to recommend that, as I have the 2002 version, but their new > licensing terms has priced the newer version completely out of reach for > the > average small business. > > John Tolmachoff > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > eServices For You > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, > just > send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service
I don't think I'd ever need to install software while in safe mode. And I'd only need to uninstall in safe mode if I was desperate. If things went wrong by uninstalling in safe mode then I'd be no worse off because I wouldn't really know which keys/files to look at replacing if Norton hadn't of uninstalled. It would probably have been a rebuild anyway. > Glad it worked for you. However, word of caution. I would > change that registry back. The reason Windows Installer is > not usable in Safe Mode is some programs being installed or > uninstalled in safe mode can cause problems. > > John Tolmachoff > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > eServices For You > Email checked by UKsubnet anti-virus service To prevent email abuse & block spam contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44(0)8712360301 Web: www.uksubnet.net Fax: +44(0)8712360300 Powered by UKsubnet Internet Service Provider Business to Business Internet (ISP) --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service
The great feature of this product is that you can specifically add it to all users or specific users desktops. So you can see in within TS. Yes it is great for that exact reason. We used to create custom backgrounds when we sold servers to ISP clients so they could immediately see where they are. Saved us from doing that work ... DC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 8:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service I use the BGINFO on all the servers I support. It is absolutely great especially since I terminal server into many at a time and it very clearly tells me what server I am on. Also tells the less sophisticated network admins which server they are on when using the KVM switch. Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Cohn > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 1:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service > > I also have the 2002 Admin pack. Back then we paid $999 for it. > > I have saved several shared servers with it more than covering the $999 > but > now it is closer to $5000 I believe. > > It may be worth it as well. > > All their products are great. Go to the freeware site sysinternals.com > and > get all their tools. > > Even the simple Bginfo screen background is the handiest utility. It > builds a very simply BMP that has all your system info and becoms the > desktop background. Nothing fancy just the info. You can run it on > boot up or > schedule it to update every few hours if needed. Great on desktops and > servers. > > DC > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff > (Lists) > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] TOT TCP/IP Protocol driver service > > > ERD commander is an awesome tool, helps change service/device startup > > values, registry, connect through the network to other machines, > > chkdsk, > etc > > etc... > > > > Might take a look at that, helps me a TON. > > I was going to recommend that, as I have the 2002 version, but their new > licensing terms has priced the newer version completely out of reach for > the > average small business. > > John Tolmachoff > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > eServices For You > > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, > just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, > just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.Virus mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.Virus".The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.