Re: Google CSE for community website

2013-04-17 Thread Ulrich Stärk
+1. Go ahead!

On 17.04.2013 04:26, Suresh Marru wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Kudos to Uli, the new com-dev site is awesome and easily navigable. But given 
 the wealth of information but one needs to know how to navigate to it. Can we 
 add a google search engine to the site? If its ok, I can commit it for review.
 
 Suresh
 
 
 


Re: Consent to translate your web page at http://community.apache.org/

2013-04-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Dear Maria,

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Maria Ramos mar...@webhostinghub.com wrote:
 ...I've emailed you a week ago regarding your web page which I found
 interesting and wanted to translate it into Spanish language

We love translations...but you'll first have to convince us that
you're not a bot, and that this is not just a scam to get link love
for your website. The latter sounds especially hard ;-)

-Bertrand


Re: Call for moderators

2013-04-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
 It seems that we need another moderator or two for this list - any volunteers?

you can add me if I'm not already one.
-Bertrand


Re: Consent to translate your web page at http://community.apache.org/

2013-04-17 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17 April 2013 09:19, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 Dear Maria,

 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Maria Ramos mar...@webhostinghub.com wrote:
 ...I've emailed you a week ago regarding your web page which I found
 interesting and wanted to translate it into Spanish language

 We love translations...but you'll first have to convince us that
 you're not a bot, and that this is not just a scam to get link love
 for your website. The latter sounds especially hard ;-)

I don't think Maria is subscribed to this list.

Of course the linkbait issue crossed my mind too, but at no point has
Maria asked for a link from us. We can't stop her translating the
newbie FAQ and posting it somewhere, so that's why I told her she
doesn't need our permission. Of course, I didn't say we would link to
her translation, I merely said she doesn't need our permission.

If it turns out to be genuine then we can use the content here,
otherwise the links will be inbound not outbound.

Ross


Spam on Women's Wiki

2013-04-17 Thread Ross Gardler
The main reason I have called for more moderators on the mailing list
is that we are getting an increasing amount of spam on the Women's
Wiki (around 5 a week at present) and I need some help killing it, the
notifications are coming through to the moderation list and, naturally
I don't want to  allow them through.

Do we want to set up some spam control on the wiki? Anyone know how?

Ross


Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com


Re: Consent to translate your web page at http://community.apache.org/

2013-04-17 Thread Edward J. Yoon
This is another similar question.

I'm serving as a member of a S.Korea government agency (National IT
Industry Promotion Agency)'s advisory committee, and recently there's
a move to support open source software and foster global open source
committers.

May I encourage them to get involved in ASF web translate project as
their first step?


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 Dear Maria,

 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Maria Ramos mar...@webhostinghub.com wrote:
 ...I've emailed you a week ago regarding your web page which I found
 interesting and wanted to translate it into Spanish language

 We love translations...but you'll first have to convince us that
 you're not a bot, and that this is not just a scam to get link love
 for your website. The latter sounds especially hard ;-)

 -Bertrand



-- 
Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
@eddieyoon


Re: Consent to translate your web page at http://community.apache.org/

2013-04-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
 ...Of course the linkbait issue crossed my mind too, but at no point has
 Maria asked for a link from us. We can't stop her translating the
 newbie FAQ and posting it somewhere, so that's why I told her she
 doesn't need our permission. Of course, I didn't say we would link to
 her translation, I merely said she doesn't need our permission

That's fine of course, but this looks so much like an SEO scam that we
saw on the Felix list recently that I had to ask. Search Google for
I've emailed you a week ago regarding your web page which I found
interesting and wanted to translate it into Spanish language. to see
what I mean.

If Maria is indeed not a bot, let's hear from her ;-)

-Bertrand


Re: Spam on Women's Wiki

2013-04-17 Thread imacat
On 2013/04/17 16:33, Ross Gardler said:
 The main reason I have called for more moderators on the mailing list
 is that we are getting an increasing amount of spam on the Women's
 Wiki (around 5 a week at present) and I need some help killing it, the
 notifications are coming through to the moderation list and, naturally
 I don't want to  allow them through.
 
 Do we want to set up some spam control on the wiki? Anyone know how?

Sorry, where is that wiki?

-- 
Best regards,
imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc

Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/
Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/
Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/
OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/
EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/
Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/



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Re: Consent to translate your web page at http://community.apache.org/

2013-04-17 Thread Edward J. Yoon
That's really nice to hear!

I guess, translate project will be very helpful for people who don't
know what to try first.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
 Absolutely!

 We, the ComDev PMC ought to be seeking to have our whole site translated.

 Whilst English is the default language for our developer lists and
 therefore those wishing to participate will typically need to be able
 to read/write English there is no reason why we shouldn't be providing
 our sign-posting documentation in as many native languages as
 possible.

 Ross
 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com




 On 17 April 2013 09:55, Edward J. Yoon edwardy...@apache.org wrote:
 This is another similar question.

 I'm serving as a member of a S.Korea government agency (National IT
 Industry Promotion Agency)'s advisory committee, and recently there's
 a move to support open source software and foster global open source
 committers.

 May I encourage them to get involved in ASF web translate project as
 their first step?


 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
 bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
 Dear Maria,

 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Maria Ramos mar...@webhostinghub.com 
 wrote:
 ...I've emailed you a week ago regarding your web page which I found
 interesting and wanted to translate it into Spanish language

 We love translations...but you'll first have to convince us that
 you're not a bot, and that this is not just a scam to get link love
 for your website. The latter sounds especially hard ;-)

 -Bertrand



 --
 Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
 @eddieyoon



-- 
Best Regards, Edward J. Yoon
@eddieyoon


Re: Spam on Women's Wiki

2013-04-17 Thread Ross Gardler
http://wiki.apache.org/Women/

Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com




On 17 April 2013 10:12, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 On 2013/04/17 16:33, Ross Gardler said:
 The main reason I have called for more moderators on the mailing list
 is that we are getting an increasing amount of spam on the Women's
 Wiki (around 5 a week at present) and I need some help killing it, the
 notifications are coming through to the moderation list and, naturally
 I don't want to  allow them through.

 Do we want to set up some spam control on the wiki? Anyone know how?

 Sorry, where is that wiki?

 --
 Best regards,
 imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
 PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc

 Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/
 Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/
 Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/
 OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/
 EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/
 Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/



Re: Spam on Women's Wiki

2013-04-17 Thread Nick Burch

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, Ross Gardler wrote:

Do we want to set up some spam control on the wiki? Anyone know how?


I'd suggest we do set it up - most of the other wikis have now enabled it, 
and while it has probably put a few new people off, generally most people 
accept it as long as requests to be added are turned around fast. (Doesn't 
have to be incubator fast!)


The main thing we need to do is come up with a list of the initial admins, 
who will grant karma as required. I'm happy to do it (NickBurch), I guess 
Ross is happy to do so (RossGardler), can we have a third person? (I'll 
need your wiki username)


When we have that, I can email infra and ask them to enable the config and 
setup the initial groups


Nick


Call for New Moderation Technology was Re: Call for moderators

2013-04-17 Thread Grant Ingersoll
I don't know if this is the right list or not (infra?), but I saw the topic 
here (and it is the 4th or 5th such request I've seen in the past 3-4 months) 
and in my mind it relates to improving the community, so I figured I'd discuss 
here first and then maybe we can take a proposal to infra@.  

It really is time for the ASF to modernize moderation and our mailing lists.  
The current approach is very antiquated compared to other lists/groups I 
moderate (LinkedIn, Google Groups, Wordpress, etc.) and it is no doubt a drain 
on what is already a fairly constrained resource (i.e. committers, PMC members 
and heavy contributors).

Things that I think we need in order to make moderation easier:
1. Web interface where you can bulk process requests, either accepting in bulk 
or rejecting in bulk.  The mail by mail approach is horribly tedious and is so 
often overwhelmed by spam that it takes too long to find the ones that aren't 
spam.
2.  Figure out a way for official ASF communications to PMCs, etc. to NOT have 
to be moderated.  I find it ridiculous after all this time that I have to 
moderate in messages from board members, or others, etc. to PMC and/or other 
lists.  There should be official communication channels that authorized people 
can use when they sign in w/ their ASF credentials.
3. Better spam detection such that any email that is NOT spam, after sitting in 
the queue is automatically sent back to the user w/ instructions on how to 
subscribe to and properly send mail to the desired list.  Anything that is spam 
is put into a separate folder automatically and left to die after X days like 
the current approach.


Other mailing list nice to haves:
1. For user (as opposed to dev) mailing lists, when someone sends an email to 
the list, automatically do a search in the archives first that replies back w/ 
potential answers and FAQs, thus offloading the I can't bother to perform a 
search first questioners.
2. Web interface. Web Interface. Web Interface.  Don't get me wrong, I want a 
good old fashioned email, but a web interface would bring in a lot more people 
in my opinion b/c now I can pull instead of being pushed too.  For some lists 
that I participate in less frequently, this would save a lot of work for my 
email server while still allowing me to participate in the list.
3. The ability for moderators to pin topics to the top for all users (i.e. 
FAQs, etc.)
4. Search

In other words, real forum software.

-Grant



On Apr 16, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:

 It seems that we need another moderator or two for this list - any volunteers?
 
 Ross
 
 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com



Re: Call for New Moderation Technology was Re: Call for moderators

2013-04-17 Thread Ulrich Stärk
On 17.04.2013 12:53, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
 I don't know if this is the right list or not (infra?), but I saw the topic 
 here (and it is the 4th or 5th such request I've seen in the past 3-4 months) 
 and in my mind it relates to improving the community, so I figured I'd 
 discuss here first and then maybe we can take a proposal to infra@.  

Infra for sure.

 
 It really is time for the ASF to modernize moderation and our mailing lists.  
 The current approach is very antiquated compared to other lists/groups I 
 moderate (LinkedIn, Google Groups, Wordpress, etc.) and it is no doubt a 
 drain on what is already a fairly constrained resource (i.e. committers, PMC 
 members and heavy contributors).
 
 Things that I think we need in order to make moderation easier:
 1. Web interface where you can bulk process requests, either accepting in 
 bulk or rejecting in bulk.  The mail by mail approach is horribly tedious and 
 is so often overwhelmed by spam that it takes too long to find the ones that 
 aren't spam.

+1

 2.  Figure out a way for official ASF communications to PMCs, etc. to NOT 
 have to be moderated.  I find it ridiculous after all this time that I have 
 to moderate in messages from board members, or others, etc. to PMC and/or 
 other lists.  There should be official communication channels that authorized 
 people can use when they sign in w/ their ASF credentials.

Ask infra to subscribe your email to all private-allow lists. It's a one-liner 
on the command line
and they'll do it if asked.

 3. Better spam detection such that any email that is NOT spam, after sitting 
 in the queue is automatically sent back to the user w/ instructions on how to 
 subscribe to and properly send mail to the desired list.  Anything that is 
 spam is put into a separate folder automatically and left to die after X days 
 like the current approach.

+1

 
 
 Other mailing list nice to haves:
 1. For user (as opposed to dev) mailing lists, when someone sends an email to 
 the list, automatically do a search in the archives first that replies back 
 w/ potential answers and FAQs, thus offloading the I can't bother to perform 
 a search first questioners.

I don't believe this will change anything. They won't bother reading, the same 
way they didn't
bother doing a search in the first place.

 2. Web interface. Web Interface. Web Interface.  Don't get me wrong, I want a 
 good old fashioned email, but a web interface would bring in a lot more 
 people in my opinion b/c now I can pull instead of being pushed too.  For 
 some lists that I participate in less frequently, this would save a lot of 
 work for my email server while still allowing me to participate in the list.

Nabble. The integration with our mailing lists sucks though. Users still have 
to subscribe and when
they don't (90% of the cases) their emails show up at Nabble but possibly not 
on our lists.

 3. The ability for moderators to pin topics to the top for all users (i.e. 
 FAQs, etc.)

The Welcome message when subscribing can be modified to include an URL to such 
a resource, as can
the footer on messages.

 4. Search

Google: site:mail-archives.apache.org your term here
markmail.org
Nabble

 
 In other words, real forum software.

-1. I want it pushed to me and not having to go poll dozens of websites.

Uli

 
 -Grant
 
 
 
 On Apr 16, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
 
 It seems that we need another moderator or two for this list - any 
 volunteers?

 Ross

 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
 


Re: Google CSE for community website

2013-04-17 Thread Suresh Marru
On Apr 17, 2013, at 3:50 AM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:

 +1. Go ahead!

I committed the search box addition (r1468843), please review it in staging and 
publish if it is ok - http://community.staging.apache.org/

Note that, the search points to the published site and not staging.

Suresh

 
 On 17.04.2013 04:26, Suresh Marru wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Kudos to Uli, the new com-dev site is awesome and easily navigable. But 
 given the wealth of information but one needs to know how to navigate to it. 
 Can we add a google search engine to the site? If its ok, I can commit it 
 for review.
 
 Suresh
 
 
 



Re: Spam on Women's Wiki

2013-04-17 Thread Noah Slater
Also, multiple ways to request access.

See the header at the top of every page on http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/


On 17 April 2013 10:48, Nick Burch n...@apache.org wrote:

 On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, Ross Gardler wrote:

 Do we want to set up some spam control on the wiki? Anyone know how?


 I'd suggest we do set it up - most of the other wikis have now enabled it,
 and while it has probably put a few new people off, generally most people
 accept it as long as requests to be added are turned around fast. (Doesn't
 have to be incubator fast!)

 The main thing we need to do is come up with a list of the initial admins,
 who will grant karma as required. I'm happy to do it (NickBurch), I guess
 Ross is happy to do so (RossGardler), can we have a third person? (I'll
 need your wiki username)

 When we have that, I can email infra and ask them to enable the config and
 setup the initial groups

 Nick




-- 
NS


Re: Call for moderators

2013-04-17 Thread Noah Slater
Me too.


On 17 April 2013 00:09, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:

 It seems that we need another moderator or two for this list - any
 volunteers?

 Ross

 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com




-- 
NS


Re: svn commit: r1468843 - /comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html

2013-04-17 Thread Ulrich Stärk
On 17.04.2013 13:30, sma...@apache.org wrote:
 Author: smarru
 Date: Wed Apr 17 11:30:20 2013
 New Revision: 1468843
 
 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1468843
 Log:
 adding a google custom search box
 
 Modified:
 comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html
 
 Modified: comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html
 URL: 
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html?rev=1468843r1=1468842r2=1468843view=diff
 ==
 --- comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html (original)
 +++ comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html Wed Apr 17 11:30:20 2013
 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
 -!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN 
 http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;
 +!DOCTYPE html
  !--
  
  Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more
 @@ -22,7 +22,6 @@
META name=description content=Apache Community Development/
META name=keywords content=apache, apache community, community 
 development, opensource/
  
 -
META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8
  !--  LINK rel=stylesheet href=/style/compressed.css 
 type=text/css media=screen, projection
LINK rel=stylesheet href=/style/style.css type=text/css 
 media=screen, projection --
 @@ -135,20 +134,42 @@
  /div
  
div class=container
 -h3 class=mutedThe Apache Software Foundation/h3
 -h4 class=mutedMeritocracy in Action./h4
 +section id=content class=row
 +  div class=span9
 +h3 class=mutedThe Apache Software Foundation/h3
 +  /div
 +  div class=span3 class=pull-rightgcse:search/gcse:search/div

You meant class=span3 pull-right. Also, can you please make it 
HTML5-compliant [1]? In addition,
it looks a bit odd in the layout, you could try tweaking it. Bootstrap has a 
special class for
search boxes, we should use it.

Uli


[1] https://developers.google.com/custom-search/docs/element#html5


Re: svn commit: r1468843 - /comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html

2013-04-17 Thread Suresh Marru
Thanks Uli, this is great feedback. I will get these changes as soon I get 
online.

Thanks,
Suresh

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 17, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:

 On 17.04.2013 13:30, sma...@apache.org wrote:
 Author: smarru
 Date: Wed Apr 17 11:30:20 2013
 New Revision: 1468843
 
 URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1468843
 Log:
 adding a google custom search box
 
 Modified:
comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html
 
 Modified: comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html
 URL: 
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html?rev=1468843r1=1468842r2=1468843view=diff
 ==
 --- comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html (original)
 +++ comdev/site/trunk/templates/standard.html Wed Apr 17 11:30:20 2013
 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
 -!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN 
 http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;
 +!DOCTYPE html
 !--
 
 Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more
 @@ -22,7 +22,6 @@
   META name=description content=Apache Community Development/
   META name=keywords content=apache, apache community, community 
 development, opensource/
 
 -
   META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8
 !--  LINK rel=stylesheet href=/style/compressed.css 
 type=text/css media=screen, projection
   LINK rel=stylesheet href=/style/style.css type=text/css 
 media=screen, projection --
 @@ -135,20 +134,42 @@
 /div
 
   div class=container
 -h3 class=mutedThe Apache Software Foundation/h3
 -h4 class=mutedMeritocracy in Action./h4
 +section id=content class=row
 +  div class=span9
 +h3 class=mutedThe Apache Software Foundation/h3
 +  /div
 +  div class=span3 
 class=pull-rightgcse:search/gcse:search/div
 
 You meant class=span3 pull-right. Also, can you please make it 
 HTML5-compliant [1]? In addition,
 it looks a bit odd in the layout, you could try tweaking it. Bootstrap has a 
 special class for
 search boxes, we should use it.
 
 Uli
 
 
 [1] https://developers.google.com/custom-search/docs/element#html5


Re: Call for New Moderation Technology was Re: Call for moderators

2013-04-17 Thread Grant Ingersoll

On Apr 17, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Ulrich Stärk wrote:

 On 17.04.2013 12:53, Grant Ingersoll wrote:
 I don't know if this is the right list or not (infra?), but I saw the topic 
 here (and it is the 4th or 5th such request I've seen in the past 3-4 
 months) and in my mind it relates to improving the community, so I figured 
 I'd discuss here first and then maybe we can take a proposal to infra@.  
 
 Infra for sure.

I'll move it over there.

 
 
 It really is time for the ASF to modernize moderation and our mailing lists. 
  The current approach is very antiquated compared to other lists/groups I 
 moderate (LinkedIn, Google Groups, Wordpress, etc.) and it is no doubt a 
 drain on what is already a fairly constrained resource (i.e. committers, PMC 
 members and heavy contributors).
 
 Things that I think we need in order to make moderation easier:
 1. Web interface where you can bulk process requests, either accepting in 
 bulk or rejecting in bulk.  The mail by mail approach is horribly tedious 
 and is so often overwhelmed by spam that it takes too long to find the ones 
 that aren't spam.
 
 +1
 
 2.  Figure out a way for official ASF communications to PMCs, etc. to NOT 
 have to be moderated.  I find it ridiculous after all this time that I have 
 to moderate in messages from board members, or others, etc. to PMC and/or 
 other lists.  There should be official communication channels that 
 authorized people can use when they sign in w/ their ASF credentials.
 
 Ask infra to subscribe your email to all private-allow lists. It's a 
 one-liner on the command line
 and they'll do it if asked.
 
 3. Better spam detection such that any email that is NOT spam, after sitting 
 in the queue is automatically sent back to the user w/ instructions on how 
 to subscribe to and properly send mail to the desired list.  Anything that 
 is spam is put into a separate folder automatically and left to die after X 
 days like the current approach.
 
 +1
 
 
 
 Other mailing list nice to haves:
 1. For user (as opposed to dev) mailing lists, when someone sends an email 
 to the list, automatically do a search in the archives first that replies 
 back w/ potential answers and FAQs, thus offloading the I can't bother to 
 perform a search first questioners.
 
 I don't believe this will change anything. They won't bother reading, the 
 same way they didn't
 bother doing a search in the first place.

Sigh.  I agree, but it would be nice to try...

 
 2. Web interface. Web Interface. Web Interface.  Don't get me wrong, I want 
 a good old fashioned email, but a web interface would bring in a lot more 
 people in my opinion b/c now I can pull instead of being pushed too.  For 
 some lists that I participate in less frequently, this would save a lot of 
 work for my email server while still allowing me to participate in the list.
 
 Nabble. The integration with our mailing lists sucks though. Users still have 
 to subscribe and when
 they don't (90% of the cases) their emails show up at Nabble but possibly 
 not on our lists.
 
 3. The ability for moderators to pin topics to the top for all users (i.e. 
 FAQs, etc.)
 
 The Welcome message when subscribing can be modified to include an URL to 
 such a resource, as can
 the footer on messages.

I was thinking beyond just the initial subscription.  For instance, you could 
pin release notices to the top, or FAQs, etc.  Just like in other forums.


 
 4. Search
 
 Google: site:mail-archives.apache.org your term here
 markmail.org
 Nabble
 
 
 In other words, real forum software.
 
 -1. I want it pushed to me and not having to go poll dozens of websites.
 

With real forum software, you get both.  It's not an either/or thing.  People 
who want email, get email.  People who want web, get web.  And I don't think it 
requires dozens of websites.


 Uli
 
 
 -Grant
 
 
 
 On Apr 16, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
 
 It seems that we need another moderator or two for this list - any 
 volunteers?
 
 Ross
 
 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
 


Grant Ingersoll | @gsingers
http://www.lucidworks.com







Re: Spam on Women's Wiki

2013-04-17 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17 April 2013 14:19, Katherine Marsden kmarsdende...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 On 4/17/2013 2:34 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:

 http://wiki.apache.org/Women/

 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

 I don't know how useful the content of the women's wiki is. I think probably
 the Women's wiki could/should  be shutdown as the women@ list was and any
 helpful content for women and other's contributed to the comdev website.


+1 for moving useful content to ComDev site.

Any volunteers?

Ross


Re: Google CSE for community website

2013-04-17 Thread Ross Gardler
It looks great. Published. Thanks.

Ross
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com




On 17 April 2013 13:03, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:
 On Apr 17, 2013, at 3:50 AM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:

 +1. Go ahead!

 I committed the search box addition (r1468843), please review it in staging 
 and publish if it is ok - http://community.staging.apache.org/

 Note that, the search points to the published site and not staging.

 Suresh


 On 17.04.2013 04:26, Suresh Marru wrote:
 Hi All,

 Kudos to Uli, the new com-dev site is awesome and easily navigable. But 
 given the wealth of information but one needs to know how to navigate to 
 it. Can we add a google search engine to the site? If its ok, I can commit 
 it for review.

 Suresh






Re: Google CSE for community website

2013-04-17 Thread Ulrich Stärk
It is faulty, that's why I didn't publish it. Look at my comment on the commit 
diff.

It's not that bad but still should be fixed.

Uli

On 17.04.2013 16:17, Ross Gardler wrote:
 It looks great. Published. Thanks.
 
 Ross
 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
 
 
 
 
 On 17 April 2013 13:03, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:
 On Apr 17, 2013, at 3:50 AM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:

 +1. Go ahead!

 I committed the search box addition (r1468843), please review it in staging 
 and publish if it is ok - http://community.staging.apache.org/

 Note that, the search points to the published site and not staging.

 Suresh


 On 17.04.2013 04:26, Suresh Marru wrote:
 Hi All,

 Kudos to Uli, the new com-dev site is awesome and easily navigable. But 
 given the wealth of information but one needs to know how to navigate to 
 it. Can we add a google search engine to the site? If its ok, I can commit 
 it for review.

 Suresh






Re: Call for moderators

2013-04-17 Thread Ross Gardler
Thanks, that's three new moderators, so I've made the request.
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com




On 17 April 2013 13:52, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote:
 Me too.


 On 17 April 2013 00:09, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:

 It seems that we need another moderator or two for this list - any
 volunteers?

 Ross

 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com




 --
 NS


Re: Spam on Women's Wiki

2013-04-17 Thread Katherine Marsden

On 4/17/2013 6:47 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:

On 17 April 2013 14:19, Katherine Marsden kmarsdende...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

On 4/17/2013 2:34 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:

http://wiki.apache.org/Women/

Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

I don't know how useful the content of the women's wiki is. I think probably
the Women's wiki could/should  be shutdown as the women@ list was and any
helpful content for women and other's contributed to the comdev website.


+1 for moving useful content to ComDev site.
Looking at the Wiki, unless I am missing something I think there is not 
anything relevant to Apache community there, just a few links off to 
other  projects women's groups and instructions on what not to do. I 
think it would be safe to just shut down. Looking at the history Jean 
Anderson and Noirin Plunkett added most of the content and I think they 
are on this list. Jean, Noirin, do you think it is ok to shutdown the 
women's wiki without migrating content or should we move those links 
somewhere?


Thanks

Kathey



Re: Google CSE for community website

2013-04-17 Thread Ross Gardler
My apologies, I missed your comment on the commit.I guess you are more
of a perfectionist than I (which is certainly not a bad thing).

I'll not roll back as we know Suresh is looking at it.

Ross
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com




On 17 April 2013 15:32, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:
 It is faulty, that's why I didn't publish it. Look at my comment on the 
 commit diff.

 It's not that bad but still should be fixed.

 Uli

 On 17.04.2013 16:17, Ross Gardler wrote:
 It looks great. Published. Thanks.

 Ross
 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com




 On 17 April 2013 13:03, Suresh Marru sma...@apache.org wrote:
 On Apr 17, 2013, at 3:50 AM, Ulrich Stärk u...@spielviel.de wrote:

 +1. Go ahead!

 I committed the search box addition (r1468843), please review it in staging 
 and publish if it is ok - http://community.staging.apache.org/

 Note that, the search points to the published site and not staging.

 Suresh


 On 17.04.2013 04:26, Suresh Marru wrote:
 Hi All,

 Kudos to Uli, the new com-dev site is awesome and easily navigable. But 
 given the wealth of information but one needs to know how to navigate to 
 it. Can we add a google search engine to the site? If its ok, I can 
 commit it for review.

 Suresh






Re: Call for New Moderation Technology was Re: Call for moderators

2013-04-17 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.org wrote:

 With real forum software, you get both.  It's not an either/or thing.
 People who want email, get email.  People who want web, get web.

That's what I hear about JIRA, but it's email notifications are such crap that
I ultimately stopped reading the Lucene dev list, even though I'm strongly
motivated to do so.

Marvin Humphrey


Re: Call for moderators

2013-04-17 Thread Rich Bowen
I'd be glad to do this if we still need any.


On Apr 16, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:

 It seems that we need another moderator or two for this list - any volunteers?
 
 Ross
 
 Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
 Programme Leader (Open Development)
 OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

-- 
Rich Bowen
rbo...@rcbowen.com :: @rbowen
rbo...@apache.org








Re: Call for moderators

2013-04-17 Thread Ross Gardler
Well it turns out I'm the only moderator on private - never noticed since
its such low traffic. I'll add you and Luciano in that role,

Sent from a mobile device, please excuse mistakes and brevity
On 17 Apr 2013 20:55, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote:

 I'd be glad to do this if we still need any.


 On Apr 16, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:

  It seems that we need another moderator or two for this list - any
 volunteers?
 
  Ross
 
  Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
  Programme Leader (Open Development)
  OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

 --
 Rich Bowen
 rbo...@rcbowen.com :: @rbowen
 rbo...@apache.org









Re: Call for moderators

2013-04-17 Thread Luciano Resende
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.comwrote:

 Well it turns out I'm the only moderator on private - never noticed since
 its such low traffic. I'll add you and Luciano in that role,


Ok.

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http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/